Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.

[tp4tissue]

Ne1 haz rgb light strips for room lighting? Tp4 has some questions.

[Leslieann]

used psu namebrand, $60

Nope, don't do that, go buy a new one.
You're risking $500 by trying to save yourself $30.

Anything 20 series Nvidia or newer can also have power transition issues on older PSUs so you need something modern anyhow. Also, it's the one part you can get away without needing to upgrade even if you upgrade everything else.

[tp4tissue]

Kind of crazy how many rx580s are still out in the wild and being sold.

These were the sold by the Kilo mining cards after the first big bust.

1060 6gb level performance. Ran way hotter.

Think alot of these being sold now are re-manufacturer because they have non heatpipe coolers. 

[tp4tissue]

If you love your GPU,  Go vertical.

Basically, heavy heatsinks + support brackets bend the cards enough to cause cracking over time + heat cycles.

Video by Professional board repair guy, he's got boxes and boxes of GPU awaiting reball (re-solder).

[tp4tissue]

3080s. Hrrrrmm... Reluctant, but maybe good value in desperate times.

[tp4tissue]

Roundish GPUs, Ugh... can't stand it, 90* corners please.

[tp4tissue]

The pc market is dead in the water without GPUs.

[fohat.digs]

Except for gamers, "personal" computers have been doing everything that ordinary users need to do - for a couple of decades now.

Look at my kids, they have laptops but seldom use them. If it can't be done on a phone, it doesn't get done.

but PS - when they visit me, they do see how nice it is to have TWO 24" monitors sitting there.

[tp4tissue]

It's really convenient now that GPUs have easy access hardware encoder to screen record.

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 buy some used ram for his old 4790k rig.

Installed, Boot, starts prime95.

Suddenly an overwhelming floral scent overcomes the room. Whaaaaaa's gon' on.

Checks envelope, seller's name, Silvia Luca,

Damn, you can't get more bougie stereo Italian house than that. Probably an old woman selling the kid's stuff.

[tp4tissue]

Hrrrrm...rhrmm.rmm.

Stock is, 2400mhz 11-13-13-31-2T 1.65v

Seems to be stable at 2400mhz 10-12-12-30-1T

This kit's pretty decent. Prolly be able to push into 10-11-10-30 if Tp4 goes down 1.7v+


Buhh, that' seems unnecessary, and would require alot more testing.

[phinix]

Decided to get more RAM, so 16Gb out, 32GB coming tomorrow.
Also, getting bigger cpu cooler, from Noctua L9i to U9s.

[tp4tissue]

Phinix, mah mahhn.. you need to hit up dat Aliexpress for the 7700 (non-x) for $160.  Used b650 for $60-70.  DDR5 6000 CL30, $80

At least double your framerates in esports titles..

[phinix]

Phinix, mah mahhn.. you need to hit up dat Aliexpress for the 7700 (non-x) for $160.  Used b650 for $60-70.  DDR5 6000 CL30, $80

At least double your framerates in esports titles..

I don't play esports titles. I think.

I'm getting minimum 60fps in every game I play and that's enough for me. Dead Space, Alone in The Dark, The Last of Us etc
Then I get like 400fps in Warcraft II remastered

[tp4tissue]

Having fun re-tuning the ol' 4790k on this new ram.

The memory controller needs some more jigavolts 2 really push 16gb at the tighter timings. The board's voltages seem pretty conservative.

Although, memory controllers are much easier to kill in general vs the core. So, that's reasonable.

[noisyturtle]

[tp4tissue]

Rapoo VT3pro max black color, on sale for $30 at amazon. Really good deal.

It doesn't have the cheater click latency of the stupid overpriced mice,  but it has no motion delay, 1ms faster than wired,  which is what's ultimately important. Click delay of 3ms doesn't really matter. Your finger movement wind up is more than 3ms.

pixart 3950, state of the art sensor, (outperforms logitech Hero sensor).
Realtek RTL8762GKH, MCU,  most power efficient chipset out there.

Gigantic 800mah battery, 200 hour battery life at 1000hz, which means about 2-3 months of normal usage per charge, or 1.5ish month gaming.

It only weighs 59g with that giant battery, so not the lightest mouse, but among the lightest vs battery.  Most of the very light mice are 200-300mah, 10-15g lighter, but now you have to charge really often, as they have garbage power tuning, and some tap out at 20-30 hours.

The shell is very well appropriated. structurally sound.

Main buttons have loaded pretravel spring,

Supports up to 8000hz wireless AND wired, if you're into that. They've tested about 70hour battery life on 8000hz vs 200hour on 1000hz.

Very easy to repair, because the main switches are on their own removable daughter boards.

Overall, the design philosophy is superior to the Fashion of SPEEDHOLES.

Speedholes have gone too far, beyond some questionable aesthetic directions, they dont lighten the mice nearly enough as tradeoff for dust/moisture ingress protection. 

 

[tp4tissue]

Hahahahhahahahaa.

[tp4tissue]

34% additional tariff on China,Mainland,   32% tariff on Taiwan, China.

Tp4 is now cured of computer parts addiction,  Thanks Mr. President.

[tp4tissue]

Been using this mouse for a bit now, really gud' literally has no flaws. The grip tape could be grippier, but this is preference. 

[tp4tissue]

Is pc gaming dead? Freeze frame, Who would pay, $2700 for a high-mid range pc, BEFORE scalped parts?


Also, whatttt the HELL is THIS.... In theory you can prolly bclk this to 7700x lvls, but it still has less cache.

The 4060ti is unforgivable,

During Black Friday 2024,,

AMD 7700
4070 12gb
1tb ssd
16gb
$999

and Grail computer <which Tp4 just recently got 1 used for $800>

AMD 7700
7900gre 16gb
2tb ssd
32gb
$999

So, faster cpu and 1.5 rung higher gpu for $100 less.

This is also the crappy 8gb version of 4060ti.

[Leslieann]

Is pc gaming dead? Freeze frame, Who would pay, $2700 for a high-mid range pc, BEFORE scalped parts?

PC and any near future consoles.

Used parts are also going to skyrocket, glad I held onto that 1070.

[tp4tissue]

Maybe Lan Centers could make a come back because people can't afford PCs.   

The problem for lan centers in america is location security, too easy to smash/grab.

[noisyturtle]

I used to love digging through those PC trade in warehouses, finding all sorts of fascinating tech from the past. Used to dream of piece-mailing an entire rig together out of found parts. Sadly they all shut down during the pandemic. Maybe we will see a return out of necessity?

[tp4tissue]

9070xt @ $650-800 is the only reasonably priced GPU for the moment.

Everything else is Ridiculously priced. We're back to pandemic pricing.

[Sniping]

9070xt @ $650-800 is the only reasonably priced GPU for the moment.

Everything else is Ridiculously priced. We're back to pandemic pricing.

I swapped my 4070 ti super for a 5070 ti that i got for 750. they’re restocking every few days on the msi online shop. it’s a great deal.

[tp4tissue]

I swapped my 4070 ti super for a 5070 ti that i got for 750. they’re restocking every few days on the msi online shop. it’s a great deal.

Tp4 can not recommend Ngreedia for Political reasons, but lb for lb, 5070ti for $750 is a good buy.

[tp4tissue]

PC and any near future consoles.

Used parts are also going to skyrocket, glad I held onto that 1070.

People are probably going to miss those ebay $300  3080s the most.

[HungerMechanic]

Guess I should have bought that 3060 last year, when I had the chance! [Want PhysX.]

[tp4tissue]

Frivolous use of electricity

Dirt 3, 7840x4320, 8x Adaptive MSAA, So it uses SSAA for the transparent textures, and MSAA for normal geometry.

Finally seeing fences and powerlines at their best, but 415 watt gpu power draw,  barely break around 95-120fps.

[tp4tissue]

Horizontal GPU is so bad, why we still do this? Hot gas ingestion.

This effect alone is 5 to 8 Celcius worth of hot.

[tp4tissue]

Gosh darn, Tp4 has figured out why his old 1060 acx3 cooler has always had a dull woooing noise, even at 300rpm

They're reverse blade fans.   Reverse blades are terrible because they need alot of clearance or they produce a wooooooo noise. On a GPU that's a bad choice because you're trying to keep it from getting too thick.

Guess the only option is to deshroud mod.

Wait hangon,  they're not reverse blade, they're just crap fans conventional direction with reverse blade looking geometry.

[tp4tissue]

Couple more days with the rapoo pro max.

They totally lied about 59g, LOL, it's 62g even without the little cover on the bottom. 63 if you add the stickers.

Overall, the feel is fantastic. The buttons are very well tuned. Extremely crisp/ responsive. Doesn't have that lingering feel that leaf hinges typically have, it feels like a whole big button, well balanced.

Eqi-distant flaps is more noticeable than you'd think. Alot of ergo shapes have very different feeling left right clicks.
 

[tp4tissue]

Just asked dat' AI, what best used GPU to buy,   it said 2080ti.

IDk....... that's pretty stale.

A 2080ti is a 4060ti,  and you already know how much Tp4 dislikes the 4060ti.  It's a trash card at mid-tier prices. 

[JackQn]

Is it best to select AMD over Intel right now if I want to build a new gaming PC?

[Sniping]

Couple more days with the rapoo pro max.

They totally lied about 59g, LOL, it's 62g even without the little cover on the bottom. 63 if you add the stickers.

Overall, the feel is fantastic. The buttons are very well tuned. Extremely crisp/ responsive. Doesn't have that lingering feel that leaf hinges typically have, it feels like a whole big button, well balanced.

Eqi-distant flaps is more noticeable than you'd think. Alot of ergo shapes have very different feeling left right clicks.
 

tp should find a deal on a used mouse like me.. I have a GPX 2 and DA v3 that I bought for ridiculously cheap used. I still think the Viper V3 Pro is one of the best choices rn but they're so expensive, new and used.

[tp4tissue]

tp should find a deal on a used mouse like me.. I have a GPX 2 and DA v3 that I bought for ridiculously cheap used. I still think the Viper V3 Pro is one of the best choices rn but they're so expensive, new and used.

This is how you catch the cooties, aka Measles/birbfloo.

[Sniping]

tp should find a deal on a used mouse like me.. I have a GPX 2 and DA v3 that I bought for ridiculously cheap used. I still think the Viper V3 Pro is one of the best choices rn but they're so expensive, new and used.

This is how you catch the cooties, aka Measles/birbfloo.

but can tp4 resist the temptation of a $35 DA v3 pro? i guess maybe i put too much trust into lysol wipes 

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 is fine with logitech because their software actually works.

Razer software is iffy. so, if we can get 3950 sensor in other mice and cheaper, might as well try some other makers.

[Leslieann]

Couple more days with the rapoo pro max.

Overall, the feel is fantastic. The buttons are very well tuned. Extremely crisp/ responsive. Doesn't have that lingering feel that leaf hinges typically have, it feels like a whole big button, well balanced.

The shape is kind of meh (left side especially) and it's very slippery, but overall, not bad especially for the money.

[tp4tissue]

Couple more days with the rapoo pro max.

Overall, the feel is fantastic. The buttons are very well tuned. Extremely crisp/ responsive. Doesn't have that lingering feel that leaf hinges typically have, it feels like a whole big button, well balanced.

The shape is kind of meh (left side especially) and it's very slippery, but overall, not bad especially for the money.

Did you put the stickers on it ?  It's designed around the stickers. Because the rubber coat on older mices degrade and start to peel or turn sticky. So with the stickers, you can always refresh when the time comes.

That's why it's slippery and clean when naked.

[tp4tissue]

Just ordered another Rapoo pro max, figure, with 104% tariffs, we might not see good prices on peripherals for a while.

If you guys need monitors/ Tvs, PC fans, power supplies,  get them TODAY. Like right now, ORDER IT.



Prices are sticky,  so even if they re-balance, you will still have what's kind of like super-inflation.



Don't think about it, just order,  you have 1 month to return it and mull it over.

[tp4tissue]

Big question all day had been, Should people go out and Buy an Overpriced or Scalped GPUs right now...

Because it's going to get even MORE Overpriced tomorrow. This is a toughy .

[Leslieann]

Did you put the stickers on it ?  It's designed around the stickers. Because the rubber coat on older mices degrade and start to peel or turn sticky. So with the stickers, you can always refresh when the time comes.

That's why it's slippery and clean when naked.

Hmm. Other than including the stickers, which I missed, there's nothing on the Amazon page or in the box telling you there even is stickers. I'll have to clean it and put them on and see how it goes.

Also those are probably where your extra 3 grams came from, which definitely makes 59g a lie if you're expected to use them.

[tp4tissue]

So current inventory seems not blowing up.

This is momentarily comforting.


Although, probably because no one could afford it had it gone any higher.

[tp4tissue]

3 of top 10 mobo on amazon is b550. Seems like people still slinging AM4.

Doesn't make alot of sense though, a 5800x is $170. You can get used 7700 for $160.

Used 5800x isn't cheap either, $130ish.

[tp4tissue]

This is confirmed by ddr4 being 30 kits of top 50 kits sold .

These guys are making a huge mistake. They should not be building AM4s.

[Leslieann]

3 of top 10 mobo on amazon is b550. Seems like people still slinging AM4.

Doesn't make alot of sense though, a 5800x is $170. You can get used 7700 for $160.

Used 5800x isn't cheap either, $130ish.

The chips are cheap used.
It's a good way to upgrade and for many, a cheap way to Win11 vs a new system (about $160).


Mouse update:
Better with stickers (and some tuning, needed mroe liftoff), still not as nice as my Logitech but pretty nice, especially for the money.

[tp4tissue]

Lies,  logitech software is its only redeeming feature.... 

Pixart sensors are superior to logitech hero, for a long time now.

[phinix]

I have Logi Pro Superlight and I like it, but recently after 2 years of use it started to do double-click with side button, pisses me off, cause it does "Back" twice...
Now I like that newwer version, non-simetric one, but £150 is a lot for mouse I would say...