Author Topic: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread. (Read 108310 times)

tp4tissue · « **Reply #700 on:** Sun, 13 July 2025, 10:58:36 »

Downloaded this new firmware for the the ol' JMS583-chipped ssd enclosure, seeeems to work gud now.

Althhghhghghgouhgggg, Fastcopy can still crash it, despite only it being able to hit dat max theoretical 980MB/s

Windows copy can only do 730MB/s sustained, but no crashing.

Sniping · « **Reply #701 on:** Sun, 13 July 2025, 13:58:28 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 13 July 2025, 03:18:52

Why are they so stingy with the usbc ports?

How much can these chips possibly cost?

This is pretty accurate from what I've seen. I was shopping between motherboard models and features earlier this year and you'll realize they're really giving you the bare minimum even on $200-$300 boards. I hear that motherboards are more robust than in the past but really there hasn't been any explosive advance in features that you get at a given pricepoint, vs for keyboards for example a $100 keyboard now has the features of a $400 keyboard 5-10 years ago. I wanted a motherboard that was ITX, had good connectivity and had display connectors that allow for GPU passthrough that support 4k 120hz and up, and that narrowed it down to like 2-3 models and they were all $300 or more.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #702 on:** Sun, 13 July 2025, 14:27:53 »

One can understand why gpu passthrough would be expensive, if they have to all be 80gbps ports. But surely you can give people 2 of the damn things. and the REST be 40gbps.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #703 on:** Sun, 13 July 2025, 16:05:26 »

SSD price fixing.

This has got to stop. We should be at roughly half the current price. Hopefully Heroic-Y|\|\TC comes through for the world and destroys the Evil Nand Cabal.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #704 on:** Sun, 13 July 2025, 16:20:30 »

Pcie gen 6 ssds, might not be affordable to average consumers.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #705 on:** Sun, 13 July 2025, 18:24:01 »

Throughly tested the new jms583 firmware, gotta hand it to startech, they make stuff work. Even on stuff you don't buy from them. LOL.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #706 on:** Mon, 14 July 2025, 06:38:05 »

Batteries are alot cheaper thanks to aliexpress.

Remember when they used to be over $200.

They still sell them for $130 oem (who knows if they're even oem), $50-90 on amazon (non oem), $30 on Aliexpress.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #707 on:** Mon, 14 July 2025, 15:30:52 »

Whenever Tp4 gets nervous, he compulsively browses computer parts.

This is a grave illness.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #708 on:** Mon, 14 July 2025, 15:52:13 »

Most platforms don't even properly support 2x gen 5 ssd. You end up having to bifurcate down to 8x for gpu.

What the hell is the point of Gen 5 ssds then even, if you can't transfer anything that fast TO or FROM anywhere without kinda gimping the GPU.

noisyturtle · « **Reply #709 on:** Mon, 14 July 2025, 15:56:10 »

SSDs are literally 3x more expensive than they were just 2 years ago

gee - 4Tb platter drive for $55 or 2Tb SSD for $170? what would you do?

tp4tissue · « **Reply #710 on:** Mon, 14 July 2025, 17:18:30 »

Only if you buy the latest Gen 5 ssd model.

Tp4 just got a used 4TB sn850x for $205 from amazon resale prime day, 0 read/write. Basically a return brand new.

Sniping · « **Reply #711 on:** Mon, 14 July 2025, 22:59:36 »

Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 14 July 2025, 15:56:10

SSDs are literally 3x more expensive than they were just 2 years ago

gee - 4Tb platter drive for $55 or 2Tb SSD for $170? what would you do?

$50/tb is the goal for ssd, don't pay much more than that.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #712 on:** Tue, 15 July 2025, 06:38:20 »

We should be at $25 per TB. It's all price fixing.

There's no reason they should be this high.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #713 on:** Tue, 15 July 2025, 14:10:29 »

Bwwwahhh.. Got scammed. /CRYyy

Bought this enclosure, says 40gbps, but it's actually a JHL7440 chipset, which is Tunderbolt 3, and tops out at 2800MBps.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #714 on:** Wed, 16 July 2025, 09:38:00 »

Most these drawing tablets still stuck at 60hz.

Seems like a straight forward thing to have Maxxed out on given what's possible.

In theory, they can do 4K 325hz 8bit, or 270hz 10bit, on the latest 4-lane HBR20. ~77.4 Gbps

That would be pretty awesome. 3DLut that can power that in gsync motion would be difficult, you'd need some pretty powerful chips, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility. But static is probably more than enough, would artists care their pen tip has a slightly different shade on the leading edge for 1/300th of a second, I doubt it. so they probably don't need that pixel boost strobe compensation table.

But now that entry lvl artists are replaced by AI, they will be too poor to afford such things.

Without the individuals to drive demand, it falls to corporations, and if you supply corporate, the prices will massively inflate, and we're back to wacom prices. And all innovation stops.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #715 on:** Wed, 16 July 2025, 12:26:48 »

Gud' ssd heatsink (HR10) vs, bundled motherboard flat aluminum bar.

It's a pretttty sizable difference, now that Tp4 has 2 identical drives to compare.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #716 on:** Wed, 16 July 2025, 19:49:13 »

7ghz..

tp4tissue · « **Reply #717 on:** Thu, 17 July 2025, 17:31:21 »

Such bad thermal design on the new razer blade 16.

This is not only bad for the OLED, but it would be bad for LCDs too because most LCDs are "EDGELIT" on laptops. Gonna have a blow out.

Kavik · « **Reply #718 on:** Thu, 17 July 2025, 23:14:43 »

Of course, just a month after building my computer, the 5070 TI I bought is $110 cheaper as of yesterday. And my CPU is about $20 cheaper now.

noisyturtle · « **Reply #719 on:** Fri, 18 July 2025, 00:23:35 »

Quote from: Kavik on Thu, 17 July 2025, 23:14:43

Of course, just a month after building my computer, the 5070 TI I bought is $110 cheaper as of yesterday. And my CPU is about $20 cheaper now.

i was also noticing a drop in gpu prices the past week or so

tp4tissue · « **Reply #720 on:** Fri, 18 July 2025, 06:29:26 »

Quote from: Kavik on Thu, 17 July 2025, 23:14:43

Of course, just a month after building my computer, the 5070 TI I bought is $110 cheaper as of yesterday. And my CPU is about $20 cheaper now.

Consumer confidence is in the pewwps.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #721 on:** Fri, 18 July 2025, 06:59:54 »

Razer blade 16,

This is the dumbest design ever. Absolutely disgusting.

There're reasons laptop keyboards have had tape under the keys to prevent the fan sucking air through it.

1, DUSTTTT, now your keys will bind over time, because of dust and oily air ingress. Gamers also eat things like doritos and cheetos.

2, Imagine pouring some liquid on the keyboard, Now the FAN will suck that cococolo throughout the motherboard. NICE..

Razer is fn stupid, Seriously, they've gone full re****.

Worst lifestyle brand on the planet, the fact that they and the likes of Klipsch and Marshall (speakers) make any money is proof that Idiocracy is today the norm. Humanity is entirely hopeless.

5090 mobile GPU is $5000 for the same performance as a desktop 5070ti (non super).

Leslieann · « **Reply #722 on:** Fri, 18 July 2025, 13:45:42 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 13 July 2025, 03:18:52

Why are they so stingy with the usbc ports?

How much can these chips possibly cost?

Most peripherals on a desktop are still USB-A.
Logitech in particular has been dragging feet on USB-C for ages. Get them and HP onboard with supplying Type-C to Type-C cables and you'd probably see a shift in the market pretty fast. Peripheral companies are traditionally VERY slow to adopt new standards, probably due to lead time and molding costs. And while you see it as just a cable change for them it means new packaging, manuals, support staff training, product codes and ultimately new cables. They also need to be early rid of current inventory before they even start that.

As for costs and such, while it seems like they could easily just put type C port instead of type A (even if only USB 2 or USB 3 speeds) type-C doesn't stack like type A ports do so they would need to rebuild the whole rear I/O including new port molds and wiring (possibly daughter board) to add a few more and I don't think anyone has done so yet. Currently you could probably get three type-C and three type A along with display, audio and ethernet and while that may appeal to you, most people want more than 6 ports, let alone 3 type A. It also means a lot more traces as Type C requires a lot more wires. So yeah, it's a cost issue.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #723 on:** Fri, 18 July 2025, 18:52:07 »

Got another one, Don't love it, but this is supposedly a better chipset than jhl7440.

Tp4 isn't Loving the design. We'll see how well it performs. The top has no screw, so will probably have to zip tie it for proper tension.

arkahaanquvado · « **Reply #724 on:** Sat, 19 July 2025, 03:51:24 »

Can I play 4k games with the 3070?

tp4tissue · « **Reply #725 on:** Sat, 19 July 2025, 09:24:55 »

The biggest problem with SSD enclosure is, Most people buying them don't use peak SSDs, and/or don't have thunderbolt.

So you don't know what you're getting, because the reviews are not thorough. The expectation is entirely unclear.

There is a huge gap between real world perf 16gbps, 22gbps, 30.4gbps, 40gbps Chipsets, and yet they're all sold under the 40gbps banner.

You can't even hit 40gbps unless you go to the latest Thunderbolt 5, which again, most computers don't even have.

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