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« Reply #150 on: Mon, 02 September 2013, 18:50:01 »
So I stopped working out and dieting properly during the summer because of work in the morning draining me (damn kids and damn camp). My friend sent me a new workout plan by Tyrone Bell (Spartacus trainer) called Legion Training. It is supposed to be pretty brutal...working out every day and finishing the workout in about 20 minutes. Any thoughts on the work out?

If you can finish it in 20 minutes...

Go for it...

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wait wait wait... you have to pay for this?

Did you friend share the booklet with you? or do you have to buy something?

If you have to buy something... don't do it... look for the torrent,  if it's not on torrent,, it's probably not very good...

p90x is on torrent.

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« Reply #151 on: Mon, 02 September 2013, 19:05:47 »
Hmmmm... looked into it,, it seems there's this Pyramid-scheme esque, multi-level marketing going on with the Legion training, similar to P90x...

I don't want to sound demotivational, but if there were shortcuts to fitness, everyone would know about it.

Most exercise programs relies on attribution errors.. 

For example,, if you are fat,, and you suddenly workout and eat less salt/ and carbohydrates, You can drop 10 to 15lbs immediately within a week....

This isn't a bad thing, but most of it is water weight, and the amount of actual fat loss is minimal...

The workout programs would like to have you believe that you DID lose 15lbs of "FAT" which is just not possible...


If your friend claims to be an instructor, or is trying to sell you something... Delete him as a friend...

He's been corrupted....

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« Reply #152 on: Tue, 03 September 2013, 17:36:49 »
He sent me the packet via zip file.

I like trying things so I will try it out...I will let you know. It seems its for sedentary people who only have a little bit of lifting knowledge cause it starts me out on the smith machine on bench presses (inclined and flat). Doesn't seem too bad because it isn't promoting any supplements.

I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: Dieting, Gym, and Training.
« Reply #153 on: Tue, 03 September 2013, 19:06:12 »
He sent me the packet via zip file.

I like trying things so I will try it out...I will let you know. It seems its for sedentary people who only have a little bit of lifting knowledge cause it starts me out on the smith machine on bench presses (inclined and flat). Doesn't seem too bad because it isn't promoting any supplements.

I'll let you know how it goes.


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« Reply #154 on: Tue, 03 September 2013, 21:41:04 »
This is what I did in the past worked and doing it again now. :)

1) Intermittent Fasting. I fast 18 hours and eat 6 hours. Eating window is 12p.m-6p.m
2) Once you are comfortable with fasting (after 1 month), start eating more cleanly. Meaning no carbs/sugar. Only Vege and Meat. (Ketosis etc)
3) Cardio and Resistance training. (Alternate days)
4) Body weight exercise everyday after waking in morning in the comforts of your room. (pushups/squats/lunges etc)

Hope that helps.
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« Reply #155 on: Tue, 03 September 2013, 21:44:45 »
Saw a recent interview with John Malkovitch where he was saying how he lost 80lbs in like 6 months with an all jello diet.

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« Reply #156 on: Tue, 03 September 2013, 22:00:03 »
Saw a recent interview with John Malkovitch where he was saying how he lost 80lbs in like 6 months with an all jello diet.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

I don't think you guys need "extreme" diets..

None of you are "that" fat...

Just cut the refined sugars, replace with fruits..

And you'll be slim within 1.5 to 2 years.


Extreme diets might get you there quicker, but then you'll likely have loose skin... and it takes a rather large toll on other aspects of health, such as your immune system..


This is especially evident on ketonic diets,

your immune system goes,, WTF.. where ma' sugars, I can't fight your internal bacterial fauna and yeast without sugars,  You bastard,, eat more noodles.... ggaaaaaahhhhhhhhhharrrrrrrrrrr.......


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« Reply #157 on: Tue, 03 September 2013, 22:33:45 »
This is what I did in the past worked and doing it again now. :)

1) Intermittent Fasting. I fast 18 hours and eat 6 hours. Eating window is 12p.m-6p.m
2) Once you are comfortable with fasting (after 1 month), start eating more cleanly. Meaning no carbs/sugar. Only Vege and Meat. (Ketosis etc)
3) Cardio and Resistance training. (Alternate days)
4) Body weight exercise everyday after waking in morning in the comforts of your room. (pushups/squats/lunges etc)

Hope that helps.


I have been tempted to do a no carbs diet, but I really find carbs to be helpful even in weight loss. That extra energy it provides is more productive and helps a lot more when trying to maintain muscle tone. Don't remember the research but it really helped me to still eat a moderation of carbs instead of eliminating them. To each their own though. Instead of body weight exercises, I would stretch because I didn't want to lose my flexibility (us dancers really need it). Fasting helped so much though (16 hours or 24 hours twice a week). It really comes down to whatever works for you as long as you aren't hurting yourself in the long run.
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Re: Dieting, Gym, and Training.
« Reply #158 on: Tue, 03 September 2013, 23:29:25 »
This is what I did in the past worked and doing it again now. :)

1) Intermittent Fasting. I fast 18 hours and eat 6 hours. Eating window is 12p.m-6p.m
2) Once you are comfortable with fasting (after 1 month), start eating more cleanly. Meaning no carbs/sugar. Only Vege and Meat. (Ketosis etc)
3) Cardio and Resistance training. (Alternate days)
4) Body weight exercise everyday after waking in morning in the comforts of your room. (pushups/squats/lunges etc)

Hope that helps.


I have been tempted to do a no carbs diet, but I really find carbs to be helpful even in weight loss. That extra energy it provides is more productive and helps a lot more when trying to maintain muscle tone. Don't remember the research but it really helped me to still eat a moderation of carbs instead of eliminating them. To each their own though. Instead of body weight exercises, I would stretch because I didn't want to lose my flexibility (us dancers really need it). Fasting helped so much though (16 hours or 24 hours twice a week). It really comes down to whatever works for you as long as you aren't hurting yourself in the long run.

what exactly is "long run".  you only live for approx 70 years before your wife poisons you in your sleep..

even 6 months seem long run..

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« Reply #159 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:07:06 »
Every time I've gone on low/no carbs I've felt completely drained and have no stamina.

I recently switched over to high carb no fat, no oil, no meat/dairy/processed grains, and I feel fantastic.

Typical day (Mon-Fri): As much watermelon, dates, mango, banana, black beans, brown rice, sweet potatoes as I care for.
(Sat-Sun): Buffets - all I can eat (until I nearly puke) vegetables, fruit, brown rice - sometimes white rice as a treat.
(Once a week): Small handful of Brazil nuts (selenium)

Average cal per day: 2,200-3,000.  Average weight loss per week: 1/2 - 2 pounds.

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« Reply #160 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:10:59 »
Every time I've gone on low/no carbs I've felt completely drained and have no stamina.

I recently switched over to high carb no fat, no oil, no meat/dairy/processed grains, and I feel fantastic.

Typical day (Mon-Fri): As much watermelon, dates, mango, banana, black beans, brown rice, sweet potatoes as I care for.
(Sat-Sun): Buffets - all I can eat (until I nearly puke) vegetables, fruit, brown rice - sometimes white rice as a treat.
(Once a week): Small handful of Brazil nuts (selenium)

Average cal per day: 2,200-3,000.  Average weight loss per week: 1/2 - 2 pounds.

enjoy the diabetes... don't say I didn't warn you

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« Reply #161 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:13:17 »
Every time I've gone on low/no carbs I've felt completely drained and have no stamina.

I recently switched over to high carb no fat, no oil, no meat/dairy/processed grains, and I feel fantastic.

Typical day (Mon-Fri): As much watermelon, dates, mango, banana, black beans, brown rice, sweet potatoes as I care for.
(Sat-Sun): Buffets - all I can eat (until I nearly puke) vegetables, fruit, brown rice - sometimes white rice as a treat.
(Once a week): Small handful of Brazil nuts (selenium)

Average cal per day: 2,200-3,000.  Average weight loss per week: 1/2 - 2 pounds.

enjoy the diabetes... don't say I didn't warn you
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Show me a single piece of medical literature that backs up your statement.

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« Reply #162 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:20:39 »
Every time I've gone on low/no carbs I've felt completely drained and have no stamina.

I recently switched over to high carb no fat, no oil, no meat/dairy/processed grains, and I feel fantastic.

Typical day (Mon-Fri): As much watermelon, dates, mango, banana, black beans, brown rice, sweet potatoes as I care for.
(Sat-Sun): Buffets - all I can eat (until I nearly puke) vegetables, fruit, brown rice - sometimes white rice as a treat.
(Once a week): Small handful of Brazil nuts (selenium)

Average cal per day: 2,200-3,000.  Average weight loss per week: 1/2 - 2 pounds.

enjoy the diabetes... don't say I didn't warn you
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Show me a single piece of medical literature that backs up your statement.

Look up the chemical structure for simple sugar.   then look up starch...  notice the similarities..


A spoonful of cooked rice is pretty much the same thing as concentrated coca-cola..


But hey man.. all the obese Americans with type 2, that says nothing about high carb diets...


Go right ahead... eat whatever you want...



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« Reply #163 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:26:06 »
Every time I've gone on low/no carbs I've felt completely drained and have no stamina.

I recently switched over to high carb no fat, no oil, no meat/dairy/processed grains, and I feel fantastic.

Typical day (Mon-Fri): As much watermelon, dates, mango, banana, black beans, brown rice, sweet potatoes as I care for.
(Sat-Sun): Buffets - all I can eat (until I nearly puke) vegetables, fruit, brown rice - sometimes white rice as a treat.
(Once a week): Small handful of Brazil nuts (selenium)

Average cal per day: 2,200-3,000.  Average weight loss per week: 1/2 - 2 pounds.

enjoy the diabetes... don't say I didn't warn you
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Show me a single piece of medical literature that backs up your statement.

Look up the chemical structure for simple sugar.   then look up starch...  notice the similarities..

A spoonful of cooked rice is pretty much the same thing as concentrated coca-cola..

But hey man.. all the obese Americans with type 2, that says nothing about high carb diets...

Go right ahead... eat whatever you want...


There are so many things wrong with what you just wrote I don't know where to start..

Do everyone a favor and stop regurgitating falsehoods unless you have MEDICAL DATA TO SUPPORT IT.

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« Reply #164 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:27:19 »
Every time I've gone on low/no carbs I've felt completely drained and have no stamina.

I recently switched over to high carb no fat, no oil, no meat/dairy/processed grains, and I feel fantastic.

Typical day (Mon-Fri): As much watermelon, dates, mango, banana, black beans, brown rice, sweet potatoes as I care for.
(Sat-Sun): Buffets - all I can eat (until I nearly puke) vegetables, fruit, brown rice - sometimes white rice as a treat.
(Once a week): Small handful of Brazil nuts (selenium)

Average cal per day: 2,200-3,000.  Average weight loss per week: 1/2 - 2 pounds.

enjoy the diabetes... don't say I didn't warn you
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Show me a single piece of medical literature that backs up your statement.

Look up the chemical structure for simple sugar.   then look up starch...  notice the similarities..

A spoonful of cooked rice is pretty much the same thing as concentrated coca-cola..

But hey man.. all the obese Americans with type 2, that says nothing about high carb diets...

Go right ahead... eat whatever you want...


There are so many things wrong with what you just wrote I don't know where to start..

Start from the concentrated coke, what is it and where can I get it
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« Reply #165 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:31:14 »
I started back at the gym on July 4th, and have been going 3-4 times a week ever since.  (Most weeks, anyway, bronchitis laid me low for almost ten days...) 

Lost 10 kilos so far.

Also cutting back on heavy late meals, reducing what I eat for lunch as well.  So far so good.  My goal is to get back to 80-85 kilos, about where I was in college.  Currently at 99.9...   ;D

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« Reply #166 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:36:10 »
Every time I've gone on low/no carbs I've felt completely drained and have no stamina.

I recently switched over to high carb no fat, no oil, no meat/dairy/processed grains, and I feel fantastic.

Typical day (Mon-Fri): As much watermelon, dates, mango, banana, black beans, brown rice, sweet potatoes as I care for.
(Sat-Sun): Buffets - all I can eat (until I nearly puke) vegetables, fruit, brown rice - sometimes white rice as a treat.
(Once a week): Small handful of Brazil nuts (selenium)

Average cal per day: 2,200-3,000.  Average weight loss per week: 1/2 - 2 pounds.

enjoy the diabetes... don't say I didn't warn you
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Show me a single piece of medical literature that backs up your statement.

Look up the chemical structure for simple sugar.   then look up starch...  notice the similarities..

A spoonful of cooked rice is pretty much the same thing as concentrated coca-cola..

But hey man.. all the obese Americans with type 2, that says nothing about high carb diets...

Go right ahead... eat whatever you want...


There are so many things wrong with what you just wrote I don't know where to start..

Do everyone a favor and stop regurgitating falsehoods unless you have MEDICAL DATA TO SUPPORT IT.

Diabetes.org

Myth: Eating too much sugar causes diabetes.

Fact: The answer is not so simple. Type 1 diabetes is caused by genetics and unknown factors that trigger the onset of the disease; type 2 diabetes is caused by genetics and lifestyle factors.

Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories from any source contributes to weight gain. Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes.

The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should limit their intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes. Sugar-sweetened beverages include beverages like:

    regular soda
    fruit punch
    fruit drinks
    energy drinks
    sports drinks
    sweet tea
    other sugary drinks.

These will raise blood glucose and can provide several hundred calories in just one serving!

See for yourself:

    Just one 12-ounce can of regular soda has about 150 calories and 40 grams of carbohydrate. This is the same amount of carbohydrate in 10 teaspoons of sugar!
    One cup of fruit punch and other sugary fruit drinks have about 100 calories (or more) and 30 grams of carbohydrate.



Rice has almost the same glycemic index as most sodas,, look it up

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« Reply #167 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:38:53 »
Honestly dante, I don't care if your fatass dies.

Just don't kill everyone else who's trying to live...





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« Reply #168 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:42:17 »
So I heard you can get diabeetus from coming in contact with people who do have it.
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« Reply #169 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 16:54:38 »
So I heard you can get diabeetus from coming in contact with people who do have it.

This is also true..

In the company of fat people, you can be coerced into over-eating..

Just like in the company of friends that are doing drugs, you may feel like it's no big deal, everyone does it, etc, etc..


Over-eating, though not an immediate danger can be pass down from family members or groups of friends just like alcohol and tobacco addictions..


You people gotta start thinking outside the box..

Remember meet the parents nights?  many of the fat kids also had fat parents...

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« Reply #170 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 18:04:50 »
So I heard you can get diabeetus from coming in contact with people who do have it.

This is also true..

In the company of fat people, you can be coerced into over-eating..

Just like in the company of friends that are doing drugs, you may feel like it's no big deal, everyone does it, etc, etc..


Over-eating, though not an immediate danger can be pass down from family members or groups of friends just like alcohol and tobacco addictions..


You people gotta start thinking outside the box..

Remember meet the parents nights?  many of the fat kids also had fat parents...
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Ok stop being stupid.   I'm still waiting for you to show me indisputable medical evidence that white rice causes diabetes...

So rice and soda are both high gi and carbs, your point?  By your example I should be able to put diesel in my gasoline powered car and drive off no problems - after all - they both contain oil, right?

If you read my post - which I can see that you failed to do - I eat white rice as a treat.  Not because I believe it causes diabetes but because I prefer brown for the fiber.

If you are a vegan like myself and do not consume oil and very sparingly nuts/seeds you have to overeat to an extent because it takes a lot of calories to get to a level where I don't feel like a zombie.  That being said most of the time I'm keeping it under 3,000 cals and I'm still losing weight.

Yes I'm still a fat ass - but it's getting smaller by the week.  My peak was 348 when I was diagnosed with sleep apnea and last Friday I tipped the scale at 256.  Yes, my ass is still big but decreasing (down to 38w from 46w)

For anyone else who is afraid of carbs I highly recommend "The Starch Solution" by John McDougall.

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« Reply #171 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 19:08:53 »
So I heard you can get diabeetus from coming in contact with people who do have it.

This is also true..

In the company of fat people, you can be coerced into over-eating..

Just like in the company of friends that are doing drugs, you may feel like it's no big deal, everyone does it, etc, etc..


Over-eating, though not an immediate danger can be pass down from family members or groups of friends just like alcohol and tobacco addictions..


You people gotta start thinking outside the box..

Remember meet the parents nights?  many of the fat kids also had fat parents...
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Ok stop being stupid.   I'm still waiting for you to show me indisputable medical evidence that white rice causes diabetes...

So rice and soda are both high gi and carbs, your point?  By your example I should be able to put diesel in my gasoline powered car and drive off no problems - after all - they both contain oil, right?

If you read my post - which I can see that you failed to do - I eat white rice as a treat.  Not because I believe it causes diabetes but because I prefer brown for the fiber.

If you are a vegan like myself and do not consume oil and very sparingly nuts/seeds you have to overeat to an extent because it takes a lot of calories to get to a level where I don't feel like a zombie.  That being said most of the time I'm keeping it under 3,000 cals and I'm still losing weight.

Yes I'm still a fat ass - but it's getting smaller by the week.  My peak was 348 when I was diagnosed with sleep apnea and last Friday I tipped the scale at 256.  Yes, my ass is still big but decreasing (down to 38w from 46w)

For anyone else who is afraid of carbs I highly recommend "The Starch Solution" by John McDougall.


Yea dude.. ok.. carbs ftw... w0000....

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« Reply #172 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 20:42:43 »
I really don't think it effective in doing a no-anything. All of the macronutrients that you intake (fats, proteins, carbs) play a role in how your body functions. Take one of those away and you aren't fueling the body efficiently. It's like taking a keyboard and taking out the switches and just leaving the keys. It isn't going to work. Now your body isn't going to totally shut down on you like  that, but you need the vitals. Fat protects your organs and you need lipids in your blood. Carbs turn into glycogen which your body uses to fuel your system. Protein rebuilds, provides energy, transports stuff, etc. You need these for your body to be an efficient system...especially when you are adding additional stress with weights. Eliminating a part would not be the efficient way about burning fat and/or building mass. Watching the type of fats, proteins, and carbs is what has been truly efficient in most cases. You don't even need to eat 6-7 times a day (has been proven false time and time again). You just need an efficient amount as your body takes time to use it all. It really is as simple as calories in and calories out. Just gotta figure out how to efficiently manage them calories.

Plus being surrounded by biology and nursing majors, I've been told the dangers of ulcers and hypertension from such diets that remove a macro. I would believe them since they are studying rigorously on this stuff.
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« Reply #173 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 21:43:20 »
I really don't think it effective in doing a no-anything. All of the macronutrients that you intake (fats, proteins, carbs) play a role in how your body functions. Take one of those away and you aren't fueling the body efficiently. It's like taking a keyboard and taking out the switches and just leaving the keys. It isn't going to work. Now your body isn't going to totally shut down on you like  that, but you need the vitals. Fat protects your organs and you need lipids in your blood. Carbs turn into glycogen which your body uses to fuel your system. Protein rebuilds, provides energy, transports stuff, etc. You need these for your body to be an efficient system...especially when you are adding additional stress with weights. Eliminating a part would not be the efficient way about burning fat and/or building mass. Watching the type of fats, proteins, and carbs is what has been truly efficient in most cases. You don't even need to eat 6-7 times a day (has been proven false time and time again). You just need an efficient amount as your body takes time to use it all. It really is as simple as calories in and calories out. Just gotta figure out how to efficiently manage them calories.

Plus being surrounded by biology and nursing majors, I've been told the dangers of ulcers and hypertension from such diets that remove a macro. I would believe them since they are studying rigorously on this stuff.

exactly...   whatever dante is doing to kill himself..  he is losing weight because he's destabilized his nutrition intake..

His body is going, wtf, idk what to do,, rage......

You can tell his psyche's even deteriorated as he can not think properly to do basic google search.


Lets say that lard butt reaches his "goal"... there is a HUGE likely hood that he will simply yo-yo back to his former self.

reason being, that obesity is also a form of psychopathy.  He has an unhealthy relationship with food. And his previous choice of denial and escape has been refined carbohydrates...

Now, he's reasoned to eat nothing but sugar.. GREAT IDEA...

fantastic...

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« Reply #174 on: Wed, 04 September 2013, 22:41:51 »
I try to remember that is the large amount of small changes that actually matter in living fit in today's society. 

As anyone who has lost a substantial amount of weight would tell you, you get asked plenty along the lines of "How did you do it???".  Well there isn't a simple answer to that that doesn't sound patronizing when I reflect inward to answer those people when I try to answer.

I didn't do a single big thing, I definitely didn't do a really big change, I would claim that I did a whole bunch of small things and made a habit of them.  Now I did not start doing all these small things on day one and follow it forever, that would be doing a big thing and I didn't do that.  Making a series of small changes in your life will create habits that take over and keep you check for a lifetime, thus leading to the goal you wanted.

This is something fairly difficult to explain to people, and I don't really bother to try anymore when asked in real life (just respond with tape worm or something).  Just felt like bringing this up as per the direction this thread is taking.

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« Reply #175 on: Thu, 05 September 2013, 01:33:54 »
One very big thing. DON'T drink anything with sugar in it... So only drink water. Also, for motivation, try to workout and exercise with a friend/team that will struggle with you the whole way. To train for the actual run, people say just run a lot, it's kind of true but not really. At first, run HIT (High Intensity Training if I remember correctly). There is a setting for it on almost all treadmills and  just use that at first. Then after around a month, begin to run lets say, 6 miles a day in less than 1 hour (if its not less than 1 hour for 6 miles after 1 month of HIT... you're doing something wrong). Run that much for the rest of the week. Then bump it up a notch. Go to 7 or 8 miles. Mainly, always increase the distance each week (if you're daring, every 2 days). Studies have also proven that leaving a day of rest between each session for weight lifting is good but I haven't read up about it for cardio. There is also the very popular "paleo diet".  Search up NerdFitness and see the paleo diet. During the summer I lost ~30 pounds just by only drinking water and going on the paleo diet without exercise and cut 7 pounds eating at buffets but getting massive exercise in wreslting. I've done track and field for 2 years and this is now my 3rd year wrestling and we have to maintain our same weight for the WHOLE year so I feel ya. Just don't give up when it gets tough.
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« Reply #176 on: Thu, 05 September 2013, 17:35:00 »
One very big thing. DON'T drink anything with sugar in it... So only drink water. Also, for motivation, try to workout and exercise with a friend/team that will struggle with you the whole way. To train for the actual run, people say just run a lot, it's kind of true but not really. At first, run HIT (High Intensity Training if I remember correctly). There is a setting for it on almost all treadmills and  just use that at first. Then after around a month, begin to run lets say, 6 miles a day in less than 1 hour (if its not less than 1 hour for 6 miles after 1 month of HIT... you're doing something wrong). Run that much for the rest of the week. Then bump it up a notch. Go to 7 or 8 miles. Mainly, always increase the distance each week (if you're daring, every 2 days). Studies have also proven that leaving a day of rest between each session for weight lifting is good but I haven't read up about it for cardio. There is also the very popular "paleo diet".  Search up NerdFitness and see the paleo diet. During the summer I lost ~30 pounds just by only drinking water and going on the paleo diet without exercise and cut 7 pounds eating at buffets but getting massive exercise in wreslting. I've done track and field for 2 years and this is now my 3rd year wrestling and we have to maintain our same weight for the WHOLE year so I feel ya. Just don't give up when it gets tough.

This is great advice. Although some people vouch for HIIT, I personally have found that low intensity training is better for if you are trying to lose weight while trying to maintain substantial muscle.
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« Reply #177 on: Thu, 05 September 2013, 21:41:22 »
So I heard you can get diabeetus from coming in contact with people who do have it.

This is also true..

In the company of fat people, you can be coerced into over-eating..

Just like in the company of friends that are doing drugs, you may feel like it's no big deal, everyone does it, etc, etc..


Over-eating, though not an immediate danger can be pass down from family members or groups of friends just like alcohol and tobacco addictions..


You people gotta start thinking outside the box..

Remember meet the parents nights?  many of the fat kids also had fat parents...
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Ok stop being stupid.   I'm still waiting for you to show me indisputable medical evidence that white rice causes diabetes...

So rice and soda are both high gi and carbs, your point?  By your example I should be able to put diesel in my gasoline powered car and drive off no problems - after all - they both contain oil, right?

If you read my post - which I can see that you failed to do - I eat white rice as a treat.  Not because I believe it causes diabetes but because I prefer brown for the fiber.

If you are a vegan like myself and do not consume oil and very sparingly nuts/seeds you have to overeat to an extent because it takes a lot of calories to get to a level where I don't feel like a zombie.  That being said most of the time I'm keeping it under 3,000 cals and I'm still losing weight.

Yes I'm still a fat ass - but it's getting smaller by the week.  My peak was 348 when I was diagnosed with sleep apnea and last Friday I tipped the scale at 256.  Yes, my ass is still big but decreasing (down to 38w from 46w)

For anyone else who is afraid of carbs I highly recommend "The Starch Solution" by John McDougall.


Yea dude.. ok.. carbs ftw... w0000....

You are oversimplifying in fairness. dante's proposed diet is fairly ****, but it is free of a lot of the issues in a typical bad western diet (where you have the presence of highly refined carbohydrates, hydrogenated fats, and calorie surplus). Also, GI index is another oversimplification - rice does not have the same affect on your body as soda.

What dante's diet is incidentally similar to is the Okinawa diet, which is comprised mainly of sweet potatoes and rice, with small amounts of fish, very low fat intake, and has been linked to Okinawa islanders' longevity and relative lack of disease. The main difference - which is a crucial one - is the amount of calories, however. The Okinawa diet is low in calories and the islanders tend to be below average weight as a result, which has a huge (positive) impact on your health.
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« Reply #178 on: Thu, 05 September 2013, 21:47:58 »
I'm surprised that it doesn't seem like anyone has linked to the Hacker Diet yet (unless my search of this thread missed something).

http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/e4/

It's the quintessential GeekHack approach to dieting, and very pragmatic. I highly recommend it: helped me lose quite a lot of weight a few years ago.



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« Reply #179 on: Mon, 30 September 2013, 16:27:40 »
Started at 218 on March 1, 2013. Finally got under my goal weight of 160 this weekend after almost 7 months. Celebrated with junk food yesterday...

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« Reply #180 on: Mon, 30 September 2013, 16:30:33 »
Started at 218 on March 1, 2013. Finally got under my goal weight of 160 this weekend after almost 7 months. Celebrated with junk food yesterday...

*Gains all the weight back with that junk food*

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« Reply #181 on: Mon, 30 September 2013, 18:42:31 »
Started at 218 on March 1, 2013. Finally got under my goal weight of 160 this weekend after almost 7 months. Celebrated with junk food yesterday...

congrats....

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« Reply #182 on: Tue, 01 October 2013, 15:28:23 »
For what it's worth, I never have had any troubles with my weight and health throughout my entire life, and I might have some things to contribute to this thread.   For me, it all comes down to lifestyle.   Eat healthy, sleep enough, play sports, be physically active. 

I eat plenty of fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, whole grains, a bit of milk and cheese and eggs, and meat perhaps once a day.  Not so much fish becuase my taste for fresh seafood and freshwater fish drives me away from store bought fish.  I try to stay away from anything processed or frozen, but I'm not perfect. 

Once you eat mostly non processed foods, and go back to some fast food or sugar infused garbage, you might be able to feel the way your body reacts.  My body feels terrible after a soft drink or fast food or bag of chips or signal binge.

Then physical activity.  I always have played sports, I enjoy endurance sports, get outdoors as much as I can, and ride my bike to work and for small errands.  It's about making movement an everyday part of your life.

And sleep a lot.  That gives you more energy for your waking hours.

Another factor in health is meaningful social interaction.  If you have good relationships, it makes each activity a little more enjoyable and fosters happiness.  The lowest and brightest points in my life had everything to do with my human relationships at the time.  It did not matter if my job sucked or school was rough.  When I had thoughtful friends and a nice girl, it's motivation to wake up each day and keep yourself healthy. 

Ok that's my unscientific approach to health.  Rip it to shreds if you would like.
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« Reply #183 on: Tue, 01 October 2013, 16:56:13 »
yeah. guys, kill this captain obvious!
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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« Reply #185 on: Tue, 01 October 2013, 21:10:15 »
yeah. guys, kill this captain obvious!

Thanks.  I do what I can to help others notice the things right in front of them.
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« Reply #186 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 02:20:42 »
yeah. guys, kill this captain obvious!

Thanks.  I do what I can to help others notice the things right in front of them.

Similar to what I do with the Ergodox.. and how every other keyboard people buy is a waste of money..

I see now where you're coming from...

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« Reply #187 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 02:53:26 »
I've gained 60lbs over the past 3 years. I'm just bulking up on mass, 'cause I'm gonna be like, super buff.

actually I just spend all my waking hours behind a computer and have a weakness for fine dining

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« Reply #188 on: Tue, 29 October 2013, 18:54:48 »
I have been lifting weights, working out, taking supplements for the past 14+ Years.
Eat Healthy, Low Dairy, Low Sodium, Low Sugar, High Protein, High Fiber.
I take Vitamin B, A, C, D, Multiple Vitamin, Fish Oil, and Fiber Caps.
I take Whey Isolate Protein Gaspari Nutrition is the brand I trust.
I take Superpump 250 before working out it gets you pumped up.
I take Kre Alkalyn before and after workouts.
I take Amino Acids.
Melotonin before bed.

Protein intake every few hours. If you take a casein blend it will digest slower so can take that at bed time but it has dairy so I dont take it anymore.
Also I drink a ton a water and do not drink pop unless I go out. :)

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« Reply #189 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 07:43:06 »
I have been lifting weights, working out, taking supplements for the past 14+ Years.
Eat Healthy, Low Dairy, Low Sodium, Low Sugar, High Protein, High Fiber.
So Diary Products Are Not Healthy?
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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« Reply #190 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 08:18:05 »
I have been lifting weights, working out, taking supplements for the past 14+ Years.
Eat Healthy, Low Dairy, Low Sodium, Low Sugar, High Protein, High Fiber.
So Diary Products Are Not Healthy?

**** osteoporosis :D
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« Reply #191 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 09:05:38 »
He takes multivitamins. Also, some dairy products have a lot of sugar.

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« Reply #192 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 09:29:32 »
I have been lifting weights, working out, taking supplements for the past 14+ Years.
Eat Healthy, Low Dairy, Low Sodium, Low Sugar, High Protein, High Fiber.
So Diary Products Are Not Healthy?

**** osteoporosis :D

The "lack of dairy = osteoporosis" mantra is the result of aggressive advertising by the dairy farmers in cooperation with the U.S. gov't to spike sales of dairy products. It is empirically false, and was a precursor to the "high fructose corn syrup = sugar" campaign that is currently happening. Items that are heavily subsidized by the gov't are items that need to sell. Health/nutrition/science always lose out to the pursuit of profit (in the U.S.A. anyway).
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« Reply #193 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 09:41:05 »
I have been lifting weights, working out, taking supplements for the past 14+ Years.
Eat Healthy, Low Dairy, Low Sodium, Low Sugar, High Protein, High Fiber.
So Diary Products Are Not Healthy?

**** osteoporosis :D

The "lack of dairy = osteoporosis" mantra is the result of aggressive advertising by the dairy farmers in cooperation with the U.S. gov't to spike sales of dairy products. It is empirically false, and was a precursor to the "high fructose corn syrup = sugar" campaign that is currently happening. Items that are heavily subsidized by the gov't are items that need to sell. Health/nutrition/science always lose out to the pursuit of profit (in the U.S.A. anyway).
 </rant>

Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.
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« Reply #194 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 10:54:38 »
I have been lifting weights, working out, taking supplements for the past 14+ Years.
Eat Healthy, Low Dairy, Low Sodium, Low Sugar, High Protein, High Fiber.
So Diary Products Are Not Healthy?

I use non dairy butter, cheese, milk. The body doesnt digest dairy as good mainly the lactose and hormones. So I use food from Whole Foods but also Supplements. 

**** osteoporosis :D

The "lack of dairy = osteoporosis" mantra is the result of aggressive advertising by the dairy farmers in cooperation with the U.S. gov't to spike sales of dairy products. It is empirically false, and was a precursor to the "high fructose corn syrup = sugar" campaign that is currently happening. Items that are heavily subsidized by the gov't are items that need to sell. Health/nutrition/science always lose out to the pursuit of profit (in the U.S.A. anyway).
 </rant>

Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.

hey who edited my post! lmao  :p
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« Reply #195 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 11:31:15 »
I have been lifting weights, working out, taking supplements for the past 14+ Years.
Eat Healthy, Low Dairy, Low Sodium, Low Sugar, High Protein, High Fiber.
So Diary Products Are Not Healthy?

I use non dairy butter, cheese, milk. The body doesnt digest dairy as good mainly the lactose and hormones. So I use food from Whole Foods but also Supplements. 

**** osteoporosis :D

The "lack of dairy = osteoporosis" mantra is the result of aggressive advertising by the dairy farmers in cooperation with the U.S. gov't to spike sales of dairy products. It is empirically false, and was a precursor to the "high fructose corn syrup = sugar" campaign that is currently happening. Items that are heavily subsidized by the gov't are items that need to sell. Health/nutrition/science always lose out to the pursuit of profit (in the U.S.A. anyway).
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Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.

+1

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« Reply #196 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 11:59:52 »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html

Here is a good article. Like I said, I am low dairy not dairy free. I was dairy free for one week and it was hard to not eat.. Ice Cream! lol
At the moment I am drinking Organic milk since I dont like the flavor of lactose free and im allergic to soy and almond milk. But the organic has been making my stomach hurt and feel not so good this week so I may have to switch back to lactose free. Thats the thing, if you go low dairy for a month then if you have dairy your body doesnt like it. Is it telling me something or is it just a coincidence who knows. Not telling anyone else to not have dairy. I love Ice Cream and Cheese Curds! Just saying that it is what Im doing as part of my diet right now and its working great!  ;)

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« Reply #197 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 12:01:49 »
Thats the thing, if you go low dairy for a month then if you have dairy your body doesnt like it.
that's not THE thing. it never happens to me.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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« Reply #198 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 12:12:47 »
Thats the thing, if you go low dairy for a month then if you have dairy your body doesnt like it.
that's not THE thing. it never happens to me.

Youve had no dairy and then went back ? I guess I may be Lactose Intolerant then. :(

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« Reply #199 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 12:59:11 »
Dairy isn't inherently bad or good for you (neither are most whole foods for that matter), but it does depend highly on your genes how you react to them. People of European, Western Asian and Northern Africa descent tend to handle dairy much, much better than people originating from Eastern Asia, Sub-Saharan Africa, America and the rest of the world who's ancestors weren't exposed to milk consumption as an important element of survival for thousands of years (or skipped the neolithic phase of development altogether).

Even amongst the minority of the population who can tolerate milk well, goat's milk tends to be better accepted than cow's milk, with the exception of Northern Europeans who can tolerate both just as well.
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