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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #950 on: Sat, 08 November 2025, 08:42:18 »
Dat new 6nm Phison e28 controller, Awesome stuff.

If only someone would do a 3nm controller.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #951 on: Sun, 09 November 2025, 08:43:50 »

So much wrong with this design.


Like post-modern architecture at its worst.
Like most things in business, don't blame the architect/programmer/engineer, this was a management decision.
Everyone up top was thinking profits and not whether or not it would look right, be practical or made any sense what-so-ever.

It's the Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet of computer cases.
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #952 on: Sun, 09 November 2025, 08:59:27 »
Tp4 blames engineers for being spineless.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #953 on: Sun, 09 November 2025, 19:47:06 »
God damn it. 

Windoz autoupdated Tp4's laptop bios, which locked out undervolting.

It's a good thing "This" particular laptop allows flashback, there are cases where certain sections of microcode are fixed once Intel pushes them out (security vulnerabilities).


This is a huge problem, because old machines are slow already, and they get dragged down further by successive updates.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #954 on: Tue, 11 November 2025, 06:15:31 »
Windoz autoupdated Tp4's laptop bios, which locked out undervolting.

I've been having to use Win11 lately for work.
If you're comfortable with it, I'm starting to change my stance on Mac and Linux, not because Windows is so good but because once you find out how much better life is on those you will hate Windows far more than you already do.
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #955 on: Tue, 11 November 2025, 07:08:44 »
God damn it,   2x power efficiency? 6-6.5ghz (on mobile), 7ghz+ on desktop,  INSANE.

Now that we have detail on Zen7,  HOW IS TP4 supposed to buy a laptop until 2027-2028.. 
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ALSO, Tp4 guessing Zen 6 is NOT delayed,  They're only saying that so you'll buy up today's 9800x3ds.


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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #956 on: Thu, 13 November 2025, 00:52:00 »
Hrrrm.. Steam machine.

1 Gigabit Ethernet. DisplayPort 1.4. HDMI 2.0. One USB-C and four USB-A ports.

Dp 1.4,  so it's going to use DSC to get to the claimed 4K240hz.  That's okkkk buhh, hrrrm.. Wish they'd gone and just gave us a full 80Gbps port. There's no reason RDNA3 can't do it.


It's around a 4060 performance lvl though (according to reviewers).  Guess that's enough if the games are highly optimized for it.  They should've done put in something like the 8060s for smaller form factor, or a 7900xtx for durability.

It's probably not as fast as a 4060 though, It's going to be slower than the 8060s which has +12 CU.


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« Reply #957 on: Thu, 13 November 2025, 17:14:49 »
Hrrrm.. Steam machine.

1 Gigabit Ethernet. DisplayPort 1.4. HDMI 2.0. One USB-C and four USB-A ports.
Those are fine, the real issue is the 512gb SSD and 8gb ram on the base model. That model only exists to pique peoples interests, don't buy that one.
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #958 on: Thu, 13 November 2025, 18:35:29 »
It's a little light yea.

24GB + 7900gre even, would displace ps5.

As far as we know, PS5 is around a 7900xtx + 5090lvl ray tracing performance. RUMORS.

But still. You can't compete with that unless you got some waff.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #959 on: Sat, 15 November 2025, 13:04:13 »
With steam's buying power, Don't see why they couldn't do an 8060s at $600.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #960 on: Sun, 16 November 2025, 11:59:55 »
I mean, it looooks cool.

Mediocre cooling performance. and $$$$$

That top psu mounting makes no sense, it would look better on the bottom. Guess they did it to give the GPU air from the base. Is that really necessary? Because, clearly the cooling performance is mediocre.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #961 on: Sun, 16 November 2025, 14:08:46 »
If steam machine is indeed a 7600, is that enough for most consumers.

Basically a 2060/ 2070.  IDK.  is that enough for Modern expectations @ $500-600.

I think it's a bit expensive.  Cuz you have no expandability. 

This price bracket of products are not very good price to performance in general.

You really need to be around $1200-1500 to cross the threshold.


Buhhh Tp4,  Valve got dat Optimizations,   look, Optimizations give you 10%-15%,  so you take a 2060/2070 + 10%, which is basically, an overclocked 2060/2070. 

It's STILL NOT That fast.  You're still spending year 2026 $ on a 2018 lvl product.


When the engineer says it's better than 70% of the hardware that's out there, even if that were true, the elevation isn't by all that much.


If you want PC gaming, you can easily build a $600pc with used parts 4060 or 3060, and blow this thing out of the water.

They sell whole refurb pcs with 4060 for $600.


Zen4, 7700, $80
b650, $80
32gb ram, used $70
psu, $40
case, $50
cooler, $25

$225 left for GPU.

If you penny pinch here/there, you can get $300-320 for gpu.


You can get a PREBUILT 5060 pc for $600, if you go with Intel's jank cpus.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #962 on: Sun, 16 November 2025, 23:47:25 »
steam machine is a step in the right direction. pc hardware is horribly unoptimized for its raw power. we need more unified hardware that is easy to diagnose hardware bugs and optimization issues. i don't want to see issues like people wrecking their computers trying to play bf6. that is an unacceptable experience. ideally, one day there could be a version of the steam machine with high end hardware that can satisfy those that crave faster machines. it's been far too long of having all these loose pc components creating infinite combos of pc hardware which creates all these issues. if I were to have it my way, ram cpu gpu and motherboard would all be sold in one piece in order to end hardware mismatch and unlock bandwidth limitations. it's gone too far if you ask me. way too many ram kits out there for no reason if you ask me, and QVL list is just a pain to work with, and motherboards have barely changed in principle in ages. time for a change

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #963 on: Mon, 17 November 2025, 09:24:49 »
Budget brand Montech coming in with cooler, probably rebadged thermalright,

buhhh.. for $29.99 msrp, probably $25 on sale. performance at least as good as a peerless assassin,  The copper pipes are not zinc coated, that's maybe a Hun, why not?

Cost savings.

Stilll... if they get it to $20 sales.  hard to complain. The copper pipes though.



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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #964 on: Mon, 17 November 2025, 17:33:55 »
27 Inch oled for $400.  Acer 1440p, 288hz

IDK...  kinda meh...

If they did 320-330hz, Tp4 would be tempted, because that's the Max, but they kinda lazied it and did 288hz.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #965 on: Tue, 18 November 2025, 08:47:46 »
sOme Tp4 benchies.

-Cpuz

9750h 4.0 ghz. (the disappointment) mobile chip

445 Single 0.111/mhz, 100%ipc
3552 Multi

4790k 4.8 ghz (the time traveler)

533 Single 0.111/mhz, 100%ipc
2673 Multi

9700x 5.75 ghz (fast but actually slow)

913 Single, 0.159/mhz, 143%ipc
9389 Multi


So Hades 2 actually runs kinda bad on older mobile cpu cuz of the frequency gate. Even though, the 9750h chip is the same chip as the 8700k which is very fast for its era capable of ALOT more.

Tp4 doesn't own 1, but @ 5.0 ghz,

8700k

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #966 on: Tue, 06 January 2026, 16:00:17 »
5080 fe just had a restock on nvidia site just an hour or two ago. seemed fairly easy to check out, but I actually decided against it in the last moment. kind of an unnecessary switch for me, and I'd eat a few hundred dollars between selling my current 5070ti and moving to the 5080. I think the ram shortage will hit gpus soon, so purchasing now is a good hedge against that.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #967 on: Thu, 08 January 2026, 22:24:23 »
Ram is expected to go up another 70%, so if you haven't bought it, do it now.
Also, GPUs will go way up, so will phones. There's a very real chance that 2027 phone models will be cut down and have ram closer to what was top several years ago.

And then it will bleed over into EVERYTHING.
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #968 on: Thu, 08 January 2026, 22:24:52 »
Just splurged on a new rig:

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + ASUS B650E-E TUF GAMING + Crucial Pro Overclocking 32 GB (2x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 <-- all from Micro Center bundle
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Running these in my old NZXT case with my old Corsair Hydro Series H60 cooler, until I replace them this weekend and finalize the build.

Decided to go for broke, with the impending hardware shortages prices are only going to go up, thanks AI

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #969 on: Fri, 09 January 2026, 05:55:09 »
That top psu mounting makes no sense, it would look better on the bottom.
I think that glass PCs are stupid as long as motherboards and other parts aren't adapted for good cable routing. Most PCs look like rats nests inside anyway.

Anyway... I have a top-mounted PSU in my PC.
It is semi-passive, and almost never activates its own fan
The CPU cooler is mounted vertically, so it blows air through the PSU and out.
This means that there is only ever one fan active in the whole system, and it is therefore almost inaudible.

Note that the CPU fan is a Gentle Typhoon with ball bearings which can be mounted horizontally to blow upwards. Liquid bearing fans should only be mounted to blow sideways.
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #970 on: Mon, 12 January 2026, 07:19:00 »
Decided to go for broke, with the impending hardware shortages prices are only going to go up, thanks AI
Nice rig!
One consolation is those shortages mean this rig will last far longer than you would normally expect.
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #971 on: Tue, 13 January 2026, 03:03:54 »
Ram is expected to go up another 70%, so if you haven't bought it, do it now.
Also, GPUs will go way up, so will phones. There's a very real chance that 2027 phone models will be cut down and have ram closer to what was top several years ago.

And then it will bleed over into EVERYTHING.

So you're saying that 2027 may bring prices back to normal?
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #972 on: Tue, 13 January 2026, 19:25:41 »
How bad is 1080p gaming on a 1440p monitor? Is it noticeably blurry/much worse than standard 1080? Is the stretching super noticeable?

Also, can anyone explain why they are unable to make high refresh 1080p monitors larger than 32"? They just don't exist, seems like a hardware limitation.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #973 on: Fri, 23 January 2026, 05:53:49 »
Well, I finally have my computer exactly how I want it. All parts are maximum. Numbers are as high as they can go. The envelope is pushed to limit, and my setup is finally complete.


Perfect in every way....
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #974 on: Tue, 03 February 2026, 16:34:29 »
How bad is 1080p gaming on a 1440p monitor? Is it noticeably blurry/much worse than standard 1080? Is the stretching super noticeable?

Also, can anyone explain why they are unable to make high refresh 1080p monitors larger than 32"? They just don't exist, seems like a hardware limitation.

27" 1080p is already pushing it, I'm using one at work and its ugly.
In the past I had popular 27" Hazro, which was 1440p and was pretty awesome, but then switched to 40" Philips 4K and there was no going back...
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #975 on: Fri, 06 March 2026, 11:04:35 »
Tp4 just rebuilt his childh00d PC.

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KINDoffff wayyyyy overspent.. Mainly the PSU.

DFI Lanparty NF4 Ultra D Mobo, 312mhz FSB * 9 multi, 1.6v chipset

Opteron 165 (Delidded), 2.808ghz OC, 1.525volts,

2GB, DDR1, 216mhz OC, 2.73v,  2.5-3-3-7-1T

Ati HD4870, 512mb, 1.35v,  830mhz core OC, 1150mhz mem, silicone glued black vram sinks (VERY important)

Brand new, 6heatpipe Thermalright SI-100 cooler + modified 939 mounting bracket, Turns out these fit perfectly, and have way better performance than the Older XP120 or Big-Typh00n of that CPU'Era.

Corsair SFX 850, Platinum PSU,  $110 (On sale)

InWin 904 Plus, Ran open chassis, as open is the most quiet.

ARGB controller

Windoz 7


Total cost of (NEW) parts were $278 (includes tax). (_ ^ _)


4870s stock coolers are virtually unusable by Modern Standards, the Blowerfan on these with a tiny heatsink is hairdryer lvl, and the VRMs tend to burn out, because they're allowed to go 100C+  Tp4 measured 103C at 40% fan, which is already 3000+ rpm.

The only way to use 4870 these days, is to mount a custom sink on it, they used to make big arctic ones, but it's impossible to find nowadays.  The Zalman CPU tower solution is a much stronger cooler than anything aftermarket you could buy, and it doesn't blow hot air BACK at the PCB, leading to extra Coolnesssss.   

The Zalman aftermarket VRM gpu heatsink + the 80mm slim fan drops the vrm to 36C full OC load. That's 70 C difference.

That said, one can see why TP4 had to buy the stupid expensive SFX PSU,  there's no way you'd get this to fit in most cases without it.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #976 on: Fri, 06 March 2026, 11:17:56 »
Now, Tp4's impression of the new P14 Pro Fans from Arctic in the front. 

LEDs look good, bright, pretty wide gamut, has 12x led vs 8/9 of budget fans.

It can push some air at 2500rpm, only need it at 1000


V-RAM heatsinks are very important, Tp4 found out the hard way, burned out VRAM.

They can run for years without sinks, but 1 day, the screen goes fuzzy, and it's done, dang.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #977 on: Fri, 06 March 2026, 11:24:06 »
Ram is expected to go up another 70%, so if you haven't bought it, do it now.
Also, GPUs will go way up, so will phones. There's a very real chance that 2027 phone models will be cut down and have ram closer to what was top several years ago.

And then it will bleed over into EVERYTHING.

Now with Irento,  we're going to see $200 oil.

Sooooooo.... Tp4 has bought alot of rice.  Going all in on RICE.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #978 on: Fri, 06 March 2026, 11:29:51 »
Just splurged on a new rig:

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + ASUS B650E-E TUF GAMING + Crucial Pro Overclocking 32 GB (2x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 <-- all from Micro Center bundle
Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT
Samsung 9100 PRO 1 TB
MSI MPG A850GS 850w PSU

Running these in my old NZXT case with my old Corsair Hydro Series H60 cooler, until I replace them this weekend and finalize the build.

Decided to go for broke, with the impending hardware shortages prices are only going to go up, thanks AI


It won't be storage, the Petr0Dollar has a 50/50 chance of collapsing.

We (Murica') prints debt/money, people buy oil with it, then the saudis take that and recycle it into our bond/stock market. Now that is 'all might get blown up,  our military bases in the region are all basically kaputttt,   There's a huge probability of a major realignment.

Tp4 is looking into goldbacked RMB/Rubles

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #979 on: Sat, 07 March 2026, 09:11:37 »
Of interest.

The thermalright budget argb fans, the Forward version has 8 leds in the hub, but the "Reverse" blade version has 9 leds.

The big 14mm fans also have 9 leds.

Whuddupwith that??

The New arctic pro 140mms have 12 leds, and they're alot brighter leds, which indicate a much stronger driver chip.
-Drawback, a HUGE fan hub (bad), vs thermalright's very small hub.

DOES that justify the price pitch vs the thermalright.  $33 vs $18.

You can kinda make a case for it, buhhhhhhhh in practical application, one would say no. 

Conditions:

If they're in view, you don't run the LEDs at max power for daily use, they're very distracting and seer into your peripheral vision at peak brightness.

If they are out of view, then who cares how bright they are.

The color gamut is wider on the p14 pro, so the dope on the led itself is better, YES, but, BECAUSE of the way additive lighting works, that somewhat slight extended gamut isn't really realized, as ambient light pollutes the perceived purity of the final color, so it naturally desaturates, despite its innate ability,

FOR EXAMPLE, if you set the fans to RED, and turn all the lights out, they will look red.  But if there is any ambient light, they actually look mostly orange, or in extreme case Yellow.

So... Even if they doped it with the best Quantum juice, the perceived gamut is a sliver of innate capacity.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #980 on: Sun, 08 March 2026, 08:03:28 »
Have a feeling, we won't have new GPUs for a while.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #981 on: Sun, 08 March 2026, 12:51:36 »
I built a new computer to replace my 5-year-old build that refused to post. It took a while and I think that a big part of the problem was ASUS TUF gaming motherboards, I am pretty sure that I got 2 in a row (new in box) that were hopelessly borked and that caused me to cycle through numerous other components. Particularly frustrating was the errors I was getting insisted that DRAM was faulty (it wasn't!) and DDR5 is obscenely expensive these days.

Something that I replaced that really pleased me was a pair of Arctic silent fans that really are silent - best fans I have ever used.

That "vintage" comment made me remember that I have an awesome server case (Win98 era) gathering dust upstairs. Besides weighing probably 40+ pounds (20kg) (empty) it has drive space galore, but while there were brackets for half a dozen fans, it only accepts the old 80mm size.
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #982 on: Sun, 08 March 2026, 14:00:57 »
If you don't have a pet with hair, all cases are better and more quiet with the side panel off.

Arctic 120mms are very silent, because they move 30% less cfm Per revolution. They're designed that way, because the coolers today are so large that you just won't need more than 50 CFM at the top wouldn't make a difference.

So, pretty much most makers optimize for the 1000rpm range.

The arctic is optimized for 1300rpm range.

In reality though, it's all pretty moot, because you'll be hard pressed to find a LOUD fan at 1000rpm.

The thermalright fans are currently best value, they're optimized for max cfm per revolution. So they're a quite alot louder than the Arctic, but if you match CFM instead of RPM,   they're all about the same.

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #983 on: Mon, 09 March 2026, 01:15:55 »
I built a new computer to replace my 5-year-old build that refused to post. It took a while and I think that a big part of the problem was ASUS TUF gaming motherboards, I am pretty sure that I got 2 in a row (new in box) that were hopelessly borked and that caused me to cycle through numerous other components. Particularly frustrating was the errors I was getting insisted that DRAM was faulty (it wasn't!) and DDR5 is obscenely expensive these days.

Something that I replaced that really pleased me was a pair of Arctic silent fans that really are silent - best fans I have ever used.

That "vintage" comment made me remember that I have an awesome server case (Win98 era) gathering dust upstairs. Besides weighing probably 40+ pounds (20kg) (empty) it has drive space galore, but while there were brackets for half a dozen fans, it only accepts the old 80mm size.


I went through 2x ASUS TUF mobos that had 2/4 RAM slots burned out
I'm a huge 'fan' of the be quiet!Silent Wings 4, and Noctua as well(but those cost about 3x more)

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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #985 on: Mon, 09 March 2026, 14:12:49 »

I went through 2x ASUS TUF mobos that had 2/4 RAM slots burned out


Interesting, I was trying to use B650E TUF Gaming with wifi and a Ryzen 7 7700. I still have the defective mobo. When I got a Gigabyte B650 it all worked fine and I am not going to mess with it.

If I had the rest of the parts I would try to build the ASUS with the one remaining 16GB stick of DDR5 I still have lying around.
   
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Re: Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.
« Reply #986 on: Mon, 09 March 2026, 14:34:48 »
AMD boards are extremely sensitive to memory. It's likely that the board training is incompatible with the ram.

If you can turn it on with 1 stick, make sure Memory context restore is turned OFF, and it should work, just takes longer to boot from retraining.