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Offline tp4tissue

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #250 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 19:24:42 »
Okay, can anyone explain why, through social media, that I would want to share or Rate and Review the camera app in Win10? Or any other built in app?

I would say it's a generic thing that all apps get, but they don't. Regardless, who even thought doing that from the start menu was a good idea? Who in their right minds looked at the start menu and though "I really want to post that on Facebook!" Sometimes the disconnect between MS (and marketers for that matter) and people just blows my mind.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #251 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 00:59:49 »
Okay, can anyone explain why, through social media, that I would want to share or Rate and Review the camera app in Win10? Or any other built in app?

I would say it's a generic thing that all apps get, but they don't. Regardless, who even thought doing that from the start menu was a good idea? Who in their right minds looked at the start menu and though "I really want to post that on Facebook!" Sometimes the disconnect between MS (and marketers for that matter) and people just blows my mind.

"Look, we can be social, too!!"
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I'd say in support of their mobile platforms, but that's dead and buried. At this point, probably denial and wishful thinking.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #252 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:12:03 »
HECK no. I value my privacy.

I don't want my data mined and transferred to a third party without my prior knowledge.

Have I got some news for you!...


Go on...

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #253 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 07:32:33 »
HECK no. I value my privacy.

I don't want my data mined and transferred to a third party without my prior knowledge.

Have I got some news for you!

Go on ....

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #254 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 08:13:44 »
Microsoft, Nvidia, Realtek, and more all with bad updates this week. Tis the season for rollbacks I guess.

With these three in particular, I'm just at the point of "If it works fine why update it?". Not sure how old my Realtek driver is, but Nvidia is still on 431.60 since it's the most stable driver to date.

I'm seriously not sure what I'll do when I get around to building a new system and put together a Windows 10 drive for DRM gaming at this point. It'll be one of those things I poke with a stick to make sure it won't explode every time I boot it, hahaha.

I haven't had any problems with drivers in recent memory, across many devices, keeping most of them fairy cutting edge with SDIO. The most recent Nvidia hotfix actually finally seems to have fixed all of the occasional freezing issues I was having in RDR2.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #255 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 18:21:22 »
HECK no. I value my privacy.

I don't want my data mined and transferred to a third party without my prior knowledge.

Have I got some news for you!...


Go on...

You'd have to sign up for a social media account to see part of whats up. I never had any (or even put personal social info on the net) until a few years back, but during sign up, the site (Facebook) already had general information on me (no surprise) and it's guesses about my hobbies was alarmingly accurate.

Microsoft, Nvidia, Realtek, and more all with bad updates this week. Tis the season for rollbacks I guess.

With these three in particular, I'm just at the point of "If it works fine why update it?". Not sure how old my Realtek driver is, but Nvidia is still on 431.60 since it's the most stable driver to date.

I'm seriously not sure what I'll do when I get around to building a new system and put together a Windows 10 drive for DRM gaming at this point. It'll be one of those things I poke with a stick to make sure it won't explode every time I boot it, hahaha.

I haven't had any problems with drivers in recent memory, across many devices, keeping most of them fairy cutting edge with SDIO. The most recent Nvidia hotfix actually finally seems to have fixed all of the occasional freezing issues I was having in RDR2.

Which driver release? I haven't looked into stability testing for the past few months.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #256 on: Tue, 25 February 2020, 07:47:26 »
Which driver release? I haven't looked into stability testing for the past few months.

442.37 I think. RDR2 would arbitrarily freeze prior to this update, sometimes within 5 minutes of launching the game, with both a 980m and 1070. I haven't had a single freeze since.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #257 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 12:16:07 »
HECK no. I value my privacy.

I don't want my data mined and transferred to a third party without my prior knowledge.

Have I got some news for you!...


Go on...

You'd have to sign up for a social media account to see part of whats up. I never had any (or even put personal social info on the net) until a few years back, but during sign up, the site (Facebook) already had general information on me (no surprise) and it's guesses about my hobbies was alarmingly accurate.

They probably had the information from the shadow profile they create of you. Facebook creates shadow profiles for people who don't have accounts. They're one of the biggest violators of privacy on the internet, if not the biggest. Google also collects way more data than is required, and with Windows 10 being partly in the cloud they collect and store a lot of info they don't need.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #258 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 17:14:58 »
Facebook probably is the worst because they cover so many platforms and websites and what they log, I have them blocked in multiple ways on everything, they still sneak in.  Google is a close second and I hope we have a change in administration before it reaches conclusion so it can be stopped (linking you to your financials/credit). Doubleclick, now owned by Google tried this before and was shot down, which is why Google now owns them but this is ultimately their goal. Which is why Google is blocked as much as possible as well.

Despite all this, even they are not as brazen as MS and Win10, they basically took it to it's logical conclusion. If it could be logged and/or sent to them, it does. The only reason it now(!) lacks a keylogger is because of France. It still tracks everything clear down to network ID and passwords it's just not logging keystrokes unless you type them into a search field.

Facebook and Google may know you your hobbies, your friends and your financial bracket but MS knows where the bodies are buried.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #259 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 17:28:37 »
They probably had the information from the shadow profile they create of you. Facebook creates shadow profiles for people who don't have accounts. They're one of the biggest violators of privacy on the internet, if not the biggest. Google also collects way more data than is required, and with Windows 10 being partly in the cloud they collect and store a lot of info they don't need.

Facebook probably is the worst because they cover so many platforms and websites and what they log, I have them blocked in multiple ways on everything, they still sneak in.  Google is a close second and I hope we have a change in administration before it reaches conclusion so it can be stopped (linking you to your financials/credit). Doubleclick, now owned by Google tried this before and was shot down, which is why Google now owns them but this is ultimately their goal. Which is why Google is blocked as much as possible as well.

Despite all this, even they are not as brazen as MS and Win10, they basically took it to it's logical conclusion. If it could be logged and/or sent to them, it does. The only reason it now(!) lacks a keylogger is because of France. It still tracks everything clear down to network ID and passwords it's just not logging keystrokes unless you type them into a search field.

Facebook and Google may know you your hobbies, your friends and your financial bracket but MS knows where the bodies are buried.

Couldn't have said it better. Your life isn't private anymore unless you live in the woods off the grid, haha.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #260 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 17:34:06 »
Couldn't have said it better. Your life isn't private anymore unless you live in the woods off the grid, haha.


It's more like, your life doesn't matter if no one cares.

A nobody is invisible.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #261 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 04:54:34 »
A nobody is invisible.
Just how I like it.  :cool:


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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #263 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 17:30:42 »
Couldn't have said it better. Your life isn't private anymore unless you live in the woods off the grid, haha.


It's more like, your life doesn't matter if no one cares.

A nobody is invisible.


Ouch. C'mon man, the truth hurts  :'(

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #264 on: Sat, 29 February 2020, 06:02:38 »
There is quite a bit you can do to minimize your footprint, however if you didn't start a while back, it's a bit late and how minimal depends a bit on how convenient you want things to be.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #265 on: Sat, 29 February 2020, 08:04:55 »
Just stay p00r.. never get on their radar.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #266 on: Sat, 29 February 2020, 13:58:43 »
Win10 drives me nuts on laptop. It's always burning through battery (and mobile data) to do forced updates/"virus scanning", and all sorts of other 'tasks'.

It's become insufferable.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #267 on: Sat, 29 February 2020, 16:22:48 »
Win10 drives me nuts on laptop. It's always burning through battery (and mobile data) to do forced updates/"virus scanning", and all sorts of other 'tasks'.

It's become insufferable.
Become? It's done that since the beta.

It was the final nail in the coffin for me in regards to running Windows, I stuck it out long enough to get my free key for being a tester and then ditched it.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #268 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 10:40:27 »
Win10 drives me nuts on laptop. It's always burning through battery (and mobile data) to do forced updates/"virus scanning", and all sorts of other 'tasks'.

It's become insufferable.
Become? It's done that since the beta.

It was the final nail in the coffin for me in regards to running Windows, I stuck it out long enough to get my free key for being a tester and then ditched it.

>_> <_< You can still activate Windows 10 with 7 licenses. Free keys are literally everywhere.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #269 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 20:20:52 »
>_> <_< You can still activate Windows 10 with 7 licenses. Free keys are literally everywhere.
Not when it was released.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #270 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 16:56:20 »
>_> <_< You can still activate Windows 10 with 7 licenses. Free keys are literally everywhere.
Not when it was released.

I'm pretty sure that you could. That was one of their marketing ploys to try to get people to adopt more quickly, and acted like it was a limited-time thing. I forget how long ago now it was that they pretended that that program ended. If you couldn't, I'm not sure how I immediately went from beta licenses to full on 10 Pro licenses on 3-4+ systems. I've been daily driving it from pretty early on, once I found it to be relatively stable enough, save for the early driver ... issues.

I never was a fan of Windows 7 to begin with. It beats Vista, but that's not saying much. Would have been nice if M$ had chosen XP as their "final" operating system.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #271 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 19:16:31 »
Every time I reset my comp now my sound defaults to the HDMI port and reinstalls the wrong drivers automatically. SO FUN, THANKS WIN10!

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #272 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 19:54:08 »
Love me some windows 10, although on my xps 13 I have Ubuntu dual booting.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #273 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 22:35:44 »
Every time I reset my comp now my sound defaults to the HDMI port and reinstalls the wrong drivers automatically. SO FUN, THANKS WIN10!

Is that worse than Windows 7 having no idea what 25% of the devices even are? Maybe I'm old school, but I don't let my operating system choose my drivers for me. You might want to look into SDIO, go to OEM product pages, or start looking up hardware IDs.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #274 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 03:49:27 »
I'm pretty sure that you could. That was one of their marketing ploys to try to get people to adopt more quickly, and acted like it was a limited-time thing. I forget how long ago now it was that they pretended that that program ended. If you couldn't, I'm not sure how I immediately went from beta licenses to full on 10 Pro licenses on 3-4+ systems. I've been daily driving it from pretty early on, once I found it to be relatively stable enough, save for the early driver ... issues.
Blah, I misread it as being able to buy cheap keys everywhere, which I don't think were available right away for Win10, though like you said you could use a Win7 or 8 key.

I just wanted the free key because it was free and supposed to be some special key, and I collect keys (for some stupid reason). Then it came out it was free, but only access to beta builds or something (it was a few years ago and I lost interest). All of that has changed, now everyone has access to them and the beta keys are now just normal keys, I think.

Don't do the beta channel unless you like pain.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #275 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 03:57:07 »
Every time I reset my comp now my sound defaults to the HDMI port and reinstalls the wrong drivers automatically. SO FUN, THANKS WIN10!

It decided my scanner didn't need access to the drive the other day, I feel your pain.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #276 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 07:24:46 »
That is why I still run a SoundBlaster Zx, only time sound changes is due to a GPU driver update and even then it just defaults to my Kanto YU2's instead of my headset.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #277 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 08:47:35 »
That is why I still run a SoundBlaster Zx, only time sound changes is due to a GPU driver update and even then it just defaults to my Kanto YU2's instead of my headset.

I'm still surprised by this. I have run Windows 10 on countless configurations of hardware, partly just to play with it. I have had 0 audio driver problems, but I also usually use SDIO to pull all of the actual OEM, up-to-date drivers straight from the latest driver packs instead of waiting for M$ to shovel their random nonsense in.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #278 on: Sat, 04 April 2020, 18:27:48 »
If you're not quite sold on Windows 10 and just want to run it alongside another operating system such as Windows 8.1 or Linux

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #279 on: Sun, 05 April 2020, 16:20:07 »
Facebook probably is the worst because they cover so many platforms and websites and what they log, I have them blocked in multiple ways on everything, they still sneak in.  Google is a close second and I hope we have a change in administration before it reaches conclusion so it can be stopped (linking you to your financials/credit). Doubleclick, now owned by Google tried this before and was shot down, which is why Google now owns them but this is ultimately their goal. Which is why Google is blocked as much as possible as well.

Despite all this, even they are not as brazen as MS and Win10, they basically took it to it's logical conclusion. If it could be logged and/or sent to them, it does. The only reason it now(!) lacks a keylogger is because of France. It still tracks everything clear down to network ID and passwords it's just not logging keystrokes unless you type them into a search field.

Facebook and Google may know you your hobbies, your friends and your financial bracket but MS knows where the bodies are buried.

Next time i get a pc i'm going to get windows 10 ltsc instead of home

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #280 on: Sun, 05 April 2020, 19:30:43 »
Next time i get a pc i'm going to get windows 10 ltsc instead of home
You can't buy it on a home computer.
It's volume license only (A.K.A. big business) or fly the Jolly Roger.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #281 on: Mon, 06 April 2020, 05:16:57 »
Next time i get a pc i'm going to get windows 10 ltsc instead of home
You can't buy it on a home computer.
It's volume license only (A.K.A. big business) or fly the Jolly Roger.

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> Do you wish to know more ?

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #282 on: Mon, 06 April 2020, 08:20:21 »
Next time i get a pc i'm going to get windows 10 ltsc instead of home
You can't buy it on a home computer.
It's volume license only (A.K.A. big business) or fly the Jolly Roger.

News @ 11, woman arrested for breaching software vendor agreement, selling nearly 50,000 copies of microsoft software to unqualified end-users, many of whom she met on what experts describe as an online computer peripheral fetishism website, to which the perpetrator is a member of under the alias Leslieann.

> Do you wish to know more ?


Do you wish to know more? Is this Starship Troopers? lol

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #283 on: Mon, 06 April 2020, 18:38:15 »

Do you wish to know more ?

TP4 has a lot of class - all low.
And here is a whole new pinnacle of dumb:
"DO NOT VOTE IN THE GEORGIA RUNOFFS, THE DEEP STATE WILL BE COLLECTING EVERYONE'S INFO. THIS IS A CHARADE, MEANT TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE WHO DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT. STAY HOME. OSSOFF AND WARNOCK ARE A SMALL PRICE TO PAY."
"THE ONLY WAY OUR VOICES GET HEARD IS by #boycott the vote"
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #284 on: Mon, 06 April 2020, 19:52:39 »
Next time i get a pc i'm going to get windows 10 ltsc instead of home
You can't buy it on a home computer.
It's volume license only (A.K.A. big business) or fly the Jolly Roger.

News @ 11, woman arrested for breaching software vendor agreement, selling nearly 50,000 copies of microsoft software to unqualified end-users, many of whom she met on what experts describe as an online computer peripheral fetishism website, to which the perpetrator is a member of under the alias Leslieann.

> Do you wish to know more ?


Do you wish to know more? Is this Starship Troopers? lol

LMAO, unfortunately windows doesn't believe that a good bug is a dead bug

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #285 on: Mon, 06 April 2020, 21:45:57 »
Next time i get a pc i'm going to get windows 10 ltsc instead of home
You can't buy it on a home computer.
It's volume license only (A.K.A. big business) or fly the Jolly Roger.

News @ 11, woman arrested for breaching software vendor agreement, selling nearly 50,000 copies of microsoft software to unqualified end-users, many of whom she met on what experts describe as an online computer peripheral fetishism website, to which the perpetrator is a member of under the alias Leslieann.

> Do you wish to know more ?


Do you wish to know more? Is this Starship Troopers? lol

LMAO, unfortunately windows doesn't believe that a good bug is a dead bug

The brain bug got to their best and brightest years ago. They can no longer be stopped.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #286 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 16:33:40 »
I use Windows 10 at home and work. I work in computing at the University of Bath, so it's bread and butter there and keeping up to date at home just makes sense so there is parity in my desktop experience. Having access to N versions means I can run Pro at home and Enterprise at work. I like Linux well enough and have a box at work for Kali (I do some cybersecurity work) or Ubuntu depending on how I'm feeling, the gaming experience on Linux has come on leaps and bounds but is still nowhere near the level of completeness I'd expect from Windows.
     
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #287 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 19:15:42 »
Win10 continues to install updates on it's own even after I paused all updates and made exceptions for it not to do so. Today I actually had to stop it from rebooting all on it's own right when I was in the middle of something because it installed an update secretly while I was asleep without permission.

Why even have an option to pause and turn off updates if Win10 just completely ignores that and does whatever it wants anyway?

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #288 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 20:15:16 »
Win10 continues to install updates on it's own even after I paused all updates and made exceptions for it not to do so. Today I actually had to stop it from rebooting all on it's own right when I was in the middle of something because it installed an update secretly while I was asleep without permission.

Why even have an option to pause and turn off updates if Win10 just completely ignores that and does whatever it wants anyway?
Important security fixes do not get deferred.

What constitutes an important update is up to them though and they've been known to send them out without proper testing.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #289 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 11:18:38 »
I definitely disliked Windows 10 a lot at first. Went back to Windows 7 for a couple of years. By the time I bought another laptop with Windows 10 preinstalled it had either improved or I'd gotten accustomed to it.

My main gripe with modern Windows is I don't like File Explorer as much. They took out the recent folders thing which meant I rarely had to dig through my whole file structure to find jobs cos they were usually up there already with a single click.

edit: I see I can actually restore that function might give it a go.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #290 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 16:24:46 »
I definitely disliked Windows 10 a lot at first. Went back to Windows 7 for a couple of years. By the time I bought another laptop with Windows 10 preinstalled it had either improved or I'd gotten accustomed to it.

My main gripe with modern Windows is I don't like File Explorer as much. They took out the recent folders thing which meant I rarely had to dig through my whole file structure to find jobs cos they were usually up there already with a single click.

edit: I see I can actually restore that function might give it a go.

Yeah, there are several flavours of restorative mods to fix File Explorer, likewise, some theming that can make it look a lot nicer too.
     
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #291 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 07:30:07 »
I've not taken an update in months because MS cannot be trusted to do their jobs. The entire Win Update team are nothing but **** ups at this point.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2020/04/12/microsoft-windows-10-warning-crashes-boot-internet-connection-slowdown-problems-upgrade-windows-10-free/

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #292 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 07:57:25 »
I've not taken an update in months because MS cannot be trusted to do their jobs. The entire Win Update team are nothing but **** ups at this point.

Seems pretty much every other month there's something.
I was also seeing a bit of talk about bad GPU drivers today, so that may have also updated for some people.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #293 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 08:07:36 »
I've not taken an update in months because MS cannot be trusted to do their jobs. The entire Win Update team are nothing but **** ups at this point.

Seems pretty much every other month there's something.
I was also seeing a bit of talk about bad GPU drivers today, so that may have also updated for some people.

Not even using build 9x

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #294 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 10:47:51 »
If you must use Windows 10, use Sledgehammer (formerly WUMT Wrapper Script)

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #295 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 13:45:34 »
I've not taken an update in months because MS cannot be trusted to do their jobs. The entire Win Update team are nothing but **** ups at this point.

Seems pretty much every other month there's something.
I was also seeing a bit of talk about bad GPU drivers today, so that may have also updated for some people.

I don't know why they would bother. The drivers always seem to be 4-5 years out of date anyway. Maybe not for somewhat modern dedicated cards, but I couldn't fathom why people would be relying on M$' drivers for such things.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #296 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 20:33:01 »
I've not taken an update in months because MS cannot be trusted to do their jobs. The entire Win Update team are nothing but **** ups at this point.

Seems pretty much every other month there's something.
I was also seeing a bit of talk about bad GPU drivers today, so that may have also updated for some people.

I don't know why they would bother. The drivers always seem to be 4-5 years out of date anyway. Maybe not for somewhat modern dedicated cards, but I couldn't fathom why people would be relying on M$' drivers for such things.
Because most people never mess with their system once it's up and running and have no idea those drivers are so out of date.
Manufacturers and MS aren't blameless here either.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #297 on: Tue, 14 April 2020, 17:46:07 »
I've not taken an update in months because MS cannot be trusted to do their jobs. The entire Win Update team are nothing but **** ups at this point.

Seems pretty much every other month there's something.
I was also seeing a bit of talk about bad GPU drivers today, so that may have also updated for some people.

I don't know why they would bother. The drivers always seem to be 4-5 years out of date anyway. Maybe not for somewhat modern dedicated cards, but I couldn't fathom why people would be relying on M$' drivers for such things.

In theory, it's a good idea to distribute older drivers that have been tested stable for standard use, but in practice it's rarely done properly, esp. with the whole "bundle" trend being pushed. Standard consumers don't care as long as it works most of the time, and companies have found out that this demographic doesn't care enough to do anything but ***** a bit when it doesn't work (no repercussions, cool, keep low-balling QA until there are).

Super users get the shaft by having to pay more for a more configurable option (lol) and/or needing to dedicate more time on driver installation, configuration, and hacking [depending on the ecosystem]. The problem is that super users are in such a small minority that they have more success fixing issues themselves and relaying that information to their communities than fighting for proper QA changes.

The whole mentality needs to change, but that's not likely to happen until "digital life" reaches a point where the livelihood of corporations has a critical relationship with standard consumer interactions. Unfortunately, that's unlikely due to the success of the large corporations [giving them financial immunity and the power to influence the direction of changes] that determine this necessity, and the sheer volume of standard consumers who are indifferent to quality standards [as long as they are able to do the bare minimum].

I would love to see what would happen if IP owners lost their exclusivity rights due to failure to meet certain QA levels.

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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #298 on: Tue, 14 April 2020, 18:07:51 »
People always jump to blaming QA for missing a bug but 99% of the time it's not QA's fault at all. In fact most of the time that bug is known and reported multiple times and the engineers just ignore all suggestions.

I know for a fact MS cares more about meeting deadlines than they do about fixing known issues. It goes so far as a QA team missing a previous milestone due to not having enough time, then being scolded and given more work than before with even less time to complete it. It's so ****ed over there.
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Re: Do you use Win10 and if so, why?
« Reply #299 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 08:19:47 »
People always jump to blaming QA for missing a bug but 99% of the time it's not QA's fault at all. In fact most of the time that bug is known and reported multiple times and the engineers just ignore all suggestions.

I know for a fact MS cares more about meeting deadlines than they do about fixing known issues. It goes so far as a QA team missing a previous milestone due to not having enough time, then being scolded and given more work than before with even less time to complete it. It's so ****ed over there.

Sounds like publishers pushing deadlines onto game developers.