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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 February 2013, 20:33:59

Title: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 February 2013, 20:33:59
Yes you can ask about keycaps here, anything keyboard related goes! :D Post your questions and we'll answer them! Thanks for making this thread great! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1700132#msg1700132)
 
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The Ideal Setup for Simple Questions, Simple Answers:
 
Overall I like jdcarpe’s (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg909018#msg909018) explanation on how this thread should ideally run. I don't want to limit the discussion but this wasn't the original intent of this thread and I wouldn't want the discussion to be lost within this thread. If you could make a spinoff and just reference your post in this thread, that would be the *ideal* situation. But remember, this will always be a place where questions can be asked and hopefully I can provide an answer (or more likely, someone much smarter than me will help out :D)
 
Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 22:32:01
This post is not directed at anyone in particular. If you think it sounds like your situation, maybe it applies to a specific case you have in mind, but trust me, this post is for general guidelines, and is in no way intended to point out anyone as being wrong or inconsiderate.
 
Q: Should I post my question here in the Simple Questions Simple Answers thread, or make a new thread to address my problem or situation?
 
A: If your question is brief, specific, and you reasonably believe that it could be answered in one reply post, please post your question here, and someone will try to help you as soon as possible with an answer and/or explanation of where to find further information. Links to other posts/threads will be provided when possible.
 
If you think that the response to your question will be likely to require several posts, with the possibility of interaction between yourself and the responder being necessary to come to an conclusion, you would probably be doing the community a favor by starting a new thread regarding your topic. A new thread will give others the opportunity to explore the same issues that you are experiencing in regard to the keyboard, switch, or other issue, organized cohesively into one place.
 
Also, if what you thought was a simple question turned into a lengthy discussion, please create a new thread regarding that topic, and post a link and direct others to join the discussion in that thread.
 
These few guidelines should make the organization of information by topic much more defined, and accessible to other members who may be having the same question, problem, or issue you may be experiencing.
 
Thanks for helping to make this topic the place to turn for questions and answers!
 
:D


If you can't find your answer, I'll hunt it down for you. Just PM me  :D Good luck and happy knowledge gathering.


If you'd like to provide feedback, please check out this thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55041.0) and leave your comments there. Please keep this thread for its original intent. Thanks!
 
Now for a few rules:

Example questions:

Q = Question
A = Answer
 
Q: Where can I buy new wire stabilizers?
WASDKeyboards (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts-1.html) has them.
 
A:
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:07:57
Btw, they only have 6.25x costar spacebar wire and 2x costar wires. Cherry wires in 6.25x, 7x, and costar in 7x are not available, which I know people do look for occasionally.


Q: What keyboard is this? (Borrowed from reaper's review (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39699.0) thread)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07221.jpg)
 
A: SHMX
 

Frequently Asked Questions: Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
 


The native GeekHack search function isn’t working that well in my opinion. You can search using Google. Input the following search -
 
site:geekhack.org mysearchhere
 
So you put site:geekhack.org then the search parameters. You can use all the tools of Google search on this search too. This will also work on other site such as Deskthority.net.
 
Also, Moose gave me this pro-tip: If you want to see if this thread has an answer you already asked, then you can try searching once you have this thread open. In other words, if you're browsing in the Keyboards sub-forum and search, the search will look for things in the Keyboards sub-forum. So if you search "LEDs" while in this thread, then you'll find posts about LEDs.



Q: I need help with X. Is there a list that will help me find assembly/CAD/help services?
Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
 Domoaligato created The Professional Services Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.msg962858#msg962858). You can see who does assembly services, modding, CAD, etc.
 

Q: Adding this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg847907#msg847907) here since it's been asked multiple times:  Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:37:39
Quote from: babyhands on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:17:22
Are we still doing simple questions simple answers? if so:
What is this sticker mod i am seeing on some keyboards? Like putting stickers under the switches or something? What does this do? And what does lubing the spring do? It seems like lube on a spring would do nothing?

The stickers go between the top and bottom halves off the switch housing. It reduces movement of the switch housing itself, which eliminates any wobble of the switch.
 
Lubing the sliders of the stem makes the switches feel smoother, and reduces or eliminates any "grittiness" feel of the switches. Lubing the springs reduces or eliminates any squeaking sound coming from the spring movement inside the switch.

I personally think stickers are a bit of a gimmick and I've heard the argument both ways. A video made by Photoelectric (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=njQSTkkSn2U) shows the wobble that housing can have and what the stickers can try to fix. Also check out this explanation (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45931.msg985786#msg985786) from nubbinator.
 
 


Q: X switch is best for gaming. Is that true? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

There is no switch that was made that was "optimized for gaming". No switch is "better" than any other for gaming. There's only personal preference. You might feel comfortable playing on X switch and not Y switch. And that's fine.
 


Q: Is there a Cherry MX spring actuation force reference guide? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

(http://i.imgur.com/a4HY9.jpg])
This picture is borrowed from Ripster. The Cherry actuation forces are (*XX). Rkinze also has a fantastic article which has both actuation and bottom out forces (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0). The discrepancy in rkinze's data can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48623.msg1044652#msg1044652). Ripster also has a great album (http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4) showing switches disassembled so you can see the springs inside with closeup of the springs so you can do comparisons.
 


Q: Where is a template for making my own keycap/keyboard layouts? (This gets asked in the IRC probably weekly)

Matt30 made this Color Generator application (http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#GFW,WA,GFW,WA) that allows you to pick color combos. For a blank layout of a keyboard, to color in, you can check out Kaporkle's thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39239.0). Next, ne0phyte has a layout generator here (http://bit.ly/ZC3mK0) and here (http://ne0.cc/kbeditor/). Finally, ijprest has this wonderful Keyboard Layout Generator (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/) with the proper SP and GMK color chip callouts. The SP ABS Color Codes can be found in Krogenar's thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.0).
 


Q: What caps are better? PBT? ABS? Thick? Thin? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:50:24
Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?

That's like asking which is better, Ferrari or Lamborghini? :P
 
They're both awesome.
It’s all personal preference. Answer also works for “What is the best switch”?
 


Q: Where do I get one of those keyboard pixel signature thingys? (Looks like: (http://i.imgur.com/1IE5C.png). This was borrowed from inlikeflynn)

The thread is called keyboard pixel art things (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.0). Your keyboard is probably listed in that thread but you'll have to search around for it.
 


Q: Can I remove switches/switch tops without desoldering? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Not unless you have a custom plate with specialized cutouts that allow this. The_Beast and WFD have made plates like this. In other words, stock plates will require soldering/desoldering, custom plates may have a cutout that allow you to open the tops without desoldering. If the board is PCB mounted, you will not have to solder/desolder. Confirmed by jdcarpe (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg882727#msg882727)
 


Q: Where can I learn more about soldering? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Tjaustin and jdcarpe started this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) which I think is a great guide on soldering/soldering equipment. Also, this guide/comic (http://mightyohm.com/blog/2011/04/soldering-is-easy-comic-book/) is often linked when people ask "How do I learn to solder?"
 


Q: Can I play video games on a RealForce/HHKB? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Yes, it shouldn't hinder your abilities in any manner. I follow the StarCraft 2 professional scene and I know for a fact that TT1 and MC both have used RealForce keyboards in competition.
 


Q: jdcarpe ordered me to add this to the OP. I blame him.

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:26:19
Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:20:49
Does anyone know what size screws the Poker/Pure case uses?

CPTBadAss, please put this info in the OP:
 
Poker/Pure cases use M2-4mm (0.4mm pitch) machine screws to mount the PCB to the case. McMaster-Carr part # 92000A011



Q: Are there switch opening tools? I heard The_Beast was selling some? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Yes, The_Beast (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36677.0) made some a while back in a round 1 of the tools. Some alternatives were pitched by Larken (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg898636#msg898636) and Nubbinator/Limmy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg898651#msg898651). Also photekq has suggested that a small flathead screwdriver will do the trick as well.
 


Q: What's part number for PCB/Plate-mount stabilizers? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 15:58:06
Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 25 June 2013, 13:18:40
Does anyone know the part number for PCB mounted Costar or Cherry stabilizers?

There is no such thing as "PCB Mounted" Costar stabilizers. All Costar stabilizers attach to the plate.
 
Cherry "Plate Mounted" stabilizers are parts: G99-0224 (1x2, 1x2.25, 1x2.75), G99-0379 (1x7), and G99-0226 (1x8, 1x9, 1x10).
 
These Cherry part numbers are "without frame". Without frame means no plate or PCB, I've personally confirmed it by ordering these parts from Mouser.: G99-0742 (1x2, 1x2.25, 1x2.75), G99-0745 (1x7), and G99-0744 (1x8, 1x9, 1x10).
 
This is the link from Cherry: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm



Q: Where can I buy stabilizers/stabilizer wire? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

For Costar stabilizers, you can go to WASDKeyboards. For Cherry, check out Ortholinear Keyboards (http://ortholinearkeyboards.com/keyboard-parts/cherry-stabiliser), GON (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html#/spacebar_length-7_00x_unit_standard_winkeyless_spacebar) or Imsto (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55). You can also bend your own. Litster's video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zry3CHNKgT8) may be helpful. The wire diameter for Costar is 3/64" music wire found at hobby shops and he uses a Du-Bro EZ Bender tool. And I believe the Cherry wire diameter is 1/16".
 


Q: What's the basic difference between the Korean weight springs and stock Cherry springs? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:17:00
Korean springs are measured at bottom out force while Cherry springs are measured at actuation.
 
Basically a 60g-ish korean spring = same as springs in blues, reds, browns.
Obviously Photekq's answer is oversimplifying the springs but that is the basic premise. For a more indepth look at springs and their spring rate, acutation force estimate, and bottom out averages, please take a look at rkinze's Cherry MX Spring Measurements thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0).
 


Q: What font does SP use on their caps prior to the Geekhack Cherry legend fundraiser? What is the stock SP font? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:55:03
Okay, I'd like to clear this up once and for all. Maybe this needs to go into a wiki or FAQ. I don't work for Signature Plastics, but I researched this and found this (http://solutionsinplastic.com/about_history.html) page on SP's web site.
Quote
History
The history of Signature Plastics began in 1973 with a company named Comptec. Comptec began injection molding and quickly became a leading manufacturer of two-shot molded plastic parts for customers world wide servicing the computer, telecommunication, electronic, automotive, medical and consumer products markets.
 
Signature Plastics was established in 2001 following a management buyout of assets and customer base of Comptec Inc. The products developed and technologies perfected during the formative Comptec years laid the foundation for Signature Plastics' continued success today resulting in over thirty years of plastic molding expertise.

- Comptec created the WYSE font and made all the original keycaps for the WYSE keyboards you can still find in the marketplace.
 
- Signature Plastics did not make the original WYSE keycaps. Comptec did. It appears the tooling they use now is newer tooling, and not the original tooling.
 
- Signature Plastics's default legend font is the WYSE font they acquired from Comptec.



Q: Is there a list of 60%/75%/Compact Keyboards? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Yes, the most updated lists are the Keychatter Buyers guide (https://www.keychatter.com/buyers-guide/) and the /r/mechanicalkeyboards wiki (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/buying_guide). mashby also created this great list (http://cpkey.com/keyboards/).
 


Q: I want to get LEDs, where are some sources? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

I personally ordered 2x3x4 mm square LEDs from this eBay vendor (http://www.ebay.com/itm/50pcs-2x3x4mm-Pink-Water-Clear-LED-Lamp-With-12V-Free-Resistors-234P-amy-/390559565687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5aef2a0777). I have also heard that some people really like SuperBrightLEDs (http://www.superbrightleds.com/). And of course, Mouser (http://www.mouser.com/Optoelectronics/LED-Indication/_/N-b1d1k?&SAP=true&gclid=CLGp5uC92LgCFdOj4AodzEEAMQ) carries them. For more info on square vs round LEDs, check out this post by Photekq (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg974873#msg974873).
 


Q: I want to see what X caps look like on a backlit board? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Check out the pictures that Jocelyn (1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg895969#msg895969),2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg896018#msg896018)) and I posted (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg895963#msg895963).
 


Q: I'm looking for old Cherry boards and rebranded boards on eBay. What should I look for? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Check out this post from Ivan (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg904558#msg904558). Also check out the DT Wiki and their Cherry Article Numbers post. (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers)
 


Q: Why do some switches cost more than others? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Pricing depends on Cherry and the pricing tiers that Carter (CM Representative on GH) gave out (cheapest to most expensive) can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46593.msg985469#msg985469).
 


Q: I want to reprogram my Poker 2 to do X? Where is some info on that? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42523.msg857335#msg857335) is some generic info on the Poker 2 including the original manual in Chinese. A translated manual can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42554.msg858542#msg858542). WhiteFireDragon has a great review with lots of helpful info here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0).
 


Q: Can I add LEDs to my Poker 2? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Check out this post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg980763#msg980763) and here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1112250#msg1112250).
 


Q: I want to bend my own Cherry stabilizer wire. Is there any info on this? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Check out this post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46801.0).
 


Q: The Costar inserts in my modifiers are loose. How do I fix this? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Don't know what a Costar insert is? Check out this picture (http://www.guru3d.com/miraserver/images/brann/////rk9k-stabsandcaps.jpg) borrowed from Brann Mitchell's review on a Rosewill RK9000 (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/rosewill_rk_9000_mechanical_keyboard_review,1.html). Then look at these pictures from Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47605.msg1015571#msg1015571). You don't need to use teflon tape; regular tape, plastic bags, and paper all work. You can also check out the this post from rowdy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1077099#msg1077099) and this thread from missalaire and Smallfry (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40748.msg810742#msg810742).
 


Q: What are the dimensions for a hole in a plate that will accept a Cherry MX housing? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

See the picture below, provided by jdcarpe (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1007385#msg1007385). Dimensions are in inches. The spacing between each switch is 19.05mm or .75 inches from center to center, as verfied by Damorgue (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48016.msg1026824#msg1026824).
 
(http://i.imgur.com/FeggbO6.png)



Q: What affects the finish of a keycap/stem/plastic more: the material or the finish? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

See this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47295.msg1008629#msg1008629) from BLJ, who is the SP plastics guru.
 


Q: I don't know which way my diodes/LEDs go. Does the polarity matter? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Check out this post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg952302#msg952302). Also this picture (http://tonystrains.com/technews/img/install-lamp/install-led-01.gif) and this picture (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/LED_label.jpg) explain the polarity on LEDs. Longer leg is positive, shorter leg is negative. Finally, this explanation from Samwisekoi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62641.msg1624373#msg1624373) is very straightforward.
 


Q: Is there a beginner's guide to modding my keyboard? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

BlueBar created this great guide (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46376.msg978914#msg978914) which I highly recommend. This is geared more towards MX switches. There is also an entire thread on soldering (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0), where you can learn everything ever about soldering. Jwaz also linked the EEVblog video on basic soldering equipment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ) and WhiteFireDragon's YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL00EjuPMbgnJjsuSKyX9OkrKG2NvuHzgX) here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47770.msg1020423#msg1020423). I found this WFD video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_2GxeR4Es) extremely helpful.
 


Q: Can I modify my Alps keyboard like the MX keyboards? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Yes, check out this post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45456.msg1016547#msg1016547).
 


Q: Where can I find the sheet that people use to check their keycap layouts? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

inlikeflynn (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36712.msg901321#msg901321) posted a 11x17" and 8x11" file, which looks like the "official GeekHack one" (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39184.msg763351#msg763351) (Laminated sheets were once sold in a GH Pack sold by Techkeys as shown in mashby's post). Samwisekoi also posted one he made for a sheet of 8x11" and A4 here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36810.msg694748#msg694748). Mr. Chunky also has a .pdf. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60972.0)
 


Q: What lube should I use for stabilizers? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

The_Beast recommends Superlube and says that WASDKeyboard uses the same. WFD uses GPL-205 grease. He also has a video on how to lube the stabilizers here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWgrnQGBBn4).
 


Q: I want to use the GeekHack logo. How do I get the logo? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Krogenar started the GeekHack Logo Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42051.msg843451#msg843451). There's many designs listed there. The GH Wiki also has two logo styles (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=GeekHack_Artwork_Resources). If you want to use them, please exercise professional courtesy and inform mkawa and Krogenar that you are using the logos. You technically don't need their permission but mkawa, Krog, and mod/admin crew appreciate it.
 

Q: I'm looking for my first mechanical keyboard. What would you (CPTBadAss) recommend? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
I personally (CPTBadAss) would recommend you pick the size and switches you like first. Check out this link (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44165.0) for more info on switches. For beginners, I recommend Cherry MX. Then do you want full size, TKL, or 60%? Those are the most common options. For fullsize, I recommend CoolerMaster QuickFire Storm or XT. For TKL, CoolerMaster QuickFire Rapid. And for 60%, I suggest Poker II or Poker X. You can also check out this buying guide from the reddit /r/mechanicalkeyboards Wiki (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/buying_guide).
 

Q: Is there a list of vendors where I can buy keycaps from? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Yes, see this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45672.msg956515#msg956515) made by Quardah. It's pretty comprehensive.
 

Q: What is the actual measurement of a 6x or 6u spacebar? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48446.msg1039010#msg1039010) from Damorgue for a more detailed explanation. 1x = 1u = 1 unit = 19.05mm. Remember that this distance is from key center to key center. See jacobolus' post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55041.msg1251234#msg1251234) for more info.
 

Q: What is a Moogle kit? What is a Tsangan kit? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out this post from jdcarpe (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56588.msg1282462#msg1282462), this post from Photekq (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1041019#msg1041019), and my follow up post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1041034#msg1041034). You'll need to read those posts before this reference picture from dubsgalore (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1041142#msg1041142) makes sense. Another good reference for a Tsangan kit is Mr. Chunky's Keycap Layout Guide (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60972.0). A full moogle set could  look something like this WYSE moogle from eth0s (http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o580/eth0sz/WYSEMooglekit.jpg). A full Tsangan kit would look something like this thread from Hashbaz (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34847.0) and the keyboard would look like this board from MMB (http://cdn.overclock.net/c/c6/350x700px-LL-c663f2b8_DSC_0081_zpse26ced6f.jpeg).


Q: Is there a list of Cherry switch part numbers? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check this post from Spamray out (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1062190#msg1062190). The Deskthority wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX) and Cherry's website (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1062140#msg1062140) also has the part numbers.
 

Q: Is there a quick primer on what mechanical keyboards are and a basic explanation of the different types out there? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out this entry from the GH wiki (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Mechanical_Keyboards). You can then check out the links in Lastpilot’s Switch Review Directory (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44165.0).
 


Q: What is a Click Clack keycap (or a Clack/CC)? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)

Check out the Clack Info Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.0) and Clack Wiki article (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Click_Clack#). You can also check out the Post your Clacks thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33569.0) and ClackFactory's 4Grabs thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.0).
 

Q: The switches in my keyboard feel different than the same switches in another keyboard. Why? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43160.msg878756#msg878756).
 
 

Q: Is there any information on o-rings/soft-landing pads/dampeners? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out this writeup (http://Check out [url= https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53990.0). And I’ve also posted a review here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0).
 

Q: Is there any information on how different switches sound? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out Mr. Interface's website. (http://www.mrinterface.com/) Click on sim on the right and you can test out how keyboards sound. Just start typing. You can find a similar Model M simulation from Webwit here (http://www.webwit.nl/input/kbsim). Mr. Interface's site also has pictures and YouTube reviews all his keyboards. Mr. Interface is a Deskthority member who organizes switch try or "Try before you buy" stuff (http://deskthority.net/try-before-you-buy-f29/) on Deskthority. Just a heads up, Mr. Interface's website can be very taxing on your browser.
 

Q: Is there a glossary for common abbreviations? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out this thread. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0)
 

Q: Is there a guide on the different keycap set colors? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out this thread. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49524.0)
 

Q: I need to find more info on a keyboard/switch. Are there some sources I can look through? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out this list listed in the DT wiki. (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keyboard_websites). There's a lot of information on vintage switches in particular. Also the Deskthority Wiki is my personal go to for information.


Q: Is there a post about the different keycap material types?Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out this post in the DT wiki. (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keycap_construction)


Q: What is a price estimate if I want to build my own custom keyboard? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
This post is a start (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1684170#msg1684170) but I highly suggested checking out Making Stuff Together to see what others have done.


Q: I found a G81-XXXX keyboard for sale. Can I use them with MX switches? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
G81-XXXX keyboards have MY switches. However, MY and MX switches have the same mount so you can use the caps interchangably. I use this DT Wiki article "Cherry Article Numbers" (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) to determine what the keycaps are for both G81-XXXX and G80-XXXX keyboards.


Q: How do I restore a vintage keyboard?[/iurl][/size]
This video from The 8-Bit Guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhbQdojSL8o) and BlueBär's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7if_CtBmYXc) do a really good job describing how to clean keyboards. The 8-Bit Guy's keyboard also shows how to retro-bright.[/list]
Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
Post by: Strelok on Wed, 20 February 2013, 21:25:32

Q: Is there an explanation on anodization? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out Photoelectric's post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49632.msg1119502#msg1119502).
 

Q: Are there measurements for keycap thicknesses? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
Check out WASDKeyboard's post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46709.msg991215#msg991215).
 


Q: Are there pictures of the different LED types? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)


Check out this post from Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54702.0).

 


Q:  Is there a guide on ergonomic keyboards? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)


Check out this post from hoggy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54680.0).

 


Q: How do I lube my Cherry MX switches? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)


Check out this post with info from WFD (a video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EaKBfLB28U), MMB (a thread) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0), and ripster (pictures) (http://imgur.com/a/lhLqo/embed#0).
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For CPTBadAss, last letter used is EEEE
 

Original Giveaway Post:
 
Quote
Announcing the Simple Questions Simple Answers giveaway (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg873120#msg873120). All you gotta do to win some swag is to be the person who posts the 1300th post. This includes international GHers as well. Good luck and happy knowledge gathering

Congrats to esoomenona for winning the first giveaway! He will be getting a Mimic cable from TechKeys![/list]
 

Old stickied topic announcement
 
BIG ANNOUNCEMENT - WE'VE CRACKED THE TOP 10 LIST!! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg900362#msg900362) THIS IS ALSO NOW A STICKIED TOPIC!! Thanks to everyone who's asked or answered questions!
 

Old EK Clack Sale FAQ
 
    Have questions about the new EK Clack sale? Click here for more info (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1096293#msg1096293)
     

    Old OP
     
    Ever wanted to ask a quick keyboard-related question but didn't feel like it warranted an entire topic? Ever wanted a thread that a lot of random info in one place? This thread could become that.
     
    Maybe you wanted to know where to buy an o-ring set or a Zelda heart keycap. Maybe you want to know if the keyboard you saw in the "Post Your Korean Custom" picture thread was a KMAC or a Cheat. Maybe you wanted to know if imsto's PBT caps are thick or thin.
     


    Strelok's original post is after the jump.


    I'll bite.

    Can I put a plate on PCB mount switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 20 February 2013, 21:38:38
    Yes.  The only difference on PCB mount switches is 2 small plastic pins sticking out of the bottom of the housing to either side of the large central pin.  You can cut off the pins to get the same as plate mount, or if the PCB has the holes don't cut them at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:05:49
    Explain dark matter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:07:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 February 2013, 20:33:59

    Where can I buy new wire stabilizers?
    WASDKeyboards (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts-1.html) has them.

    Btw, they only have 6.25x costar spacebar wire and 2x costar wires. Cherry wires in 6.25x, 7x, and costar in 7x are not available, which I know people do look for occasionally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JPG on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:13:03
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:05:49
    Explain dark matter.

    It's just a HUGE amount of matter so dense thats it's own gravity makes it collapse on itself. It's like having the whole planet earth to fit in a single keycap. It cannot be seen, but can be perceived by the gravitationnal effect on surrounding elements (planets, stars, etc.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:58:10
    Quote from: JPG on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:13:03
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:05:49
    Explain dark matter.

    It's just a HUGE amount of matter so dense thats it's own gravity makes it collapse on itself. It's like having the whole planet earth to fit in a single keycap. It cannot be seen, but can be perceived by the gravitationnal effect on surrounding elements (planets, stars, etc.)

    crazy theories,, Jesus accounts for 84% of the mass of the universe, not dark matter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:13:10
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:58:10
    Quote from: JPG on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:13:03
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:05:49
    Explain dark matter.

    It's just a HUGE amount of matter so dense thats it's own gravity makes it collapse on itself. It's like having the whole planet earth to fit in a single keycap. It cannot be seen, but can be perceived by the gravitationnal effect on surrounding elements (planets, stars, etc.)

    crazy theories,, Jesus accounts for 84% of the mass of the universe, not dark matter.

    It's like you don't even try when you do this anymore...

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:23:36
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:13:10
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:58:10
    Quote from: JPG on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:13:03
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:05:49
    Explain dark matter.

    It's just a HUGE amount of matter so dense thats it's own gravity makes it collapse on itself. It's like having the whole planet earth to fit in a single keycap. It cannot be seen, but can be perceived by the gravitationnal effect on surrounding elements (planets, stars, etc.)

    crazy theories,, Jesus accounts for 84% of the mass of the universe, not dark matter.

    It's like you don't even try when you do this anymore...



    some one has a broken sarcasm meter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:28:30
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:23:36
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:13:10
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:58:10
    Quote from: JPG on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:13:03
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:05:49
    Explain dark matter.

    It's just a HUGE amount of matter so dense thats it's own gravity makes it collapse on itself. It's like having the whole planet earth to fit in a single keycap. It cannot be seen, but can be perceived by the gravitationnal effect on surrounding elements (planets, stars, etc.)

    crazy theories,, Jesus accounts for 84% of the mass of the universe, not dark matter.

    It's like you don't even try when you do this anymore...



    some one has a broken sarcasm meter

    Over-active troll detector would be more accurate.  Pyramids are power.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:33:02
    Quote from: JPG on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:13:03
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:05:49
    Explain dark matter.

    It's just a HUGE amount of matter so dense thats it's own gravity makes it collapse on itself. It's like having the whole planet earth to fit in a single keycap. It cannot be seen, but can be perceived by the gravitationnal effect on surrounding elements (planets, stars, etc.)

    That's a black hole.  You have no idea what dark matter is.  What dark matter is, is not a simple question and has no simple answer.  Head over to wikipedia.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:34:43
    That stuff the luminatti had in Angels and Demons? Yeah, apparently makes helicopters go boom boom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:36:46
    That was antimatter.  It is well understood.  And it wasn't the illuminati, it was the priest.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:38:03
    Oh. Shoot, well... uhh... you can get Costar stabilizers from WASD Keyboards! :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:42:16
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 20 February 2013, 23:38:03
    Oh. Shoot, well... uhh... you can get Costar stabilizers from WASD Keyboards! :P

    Nah...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Reomero on Thu, 21 February 2013, 01:00:03
    What is the point in novelty keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Thu, 21 February 2013, 01:06:01
    for novelty.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Reomero on Thu, 21 February 2013, 02:02:43
    ^lol

    Why are a lot of double-shot keycaps ABS instead of PBT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 21 February 2013, 02:43:24
    Quote from: Reomero on Thu, 21 February 2013, 02:02:43
    ^lol

    Why are a lot of double-shot keycaps ABS instead of PBT?

    The tooling seems to be more expensive to develop; PBT is a bit trickier to work with than ABS because of warping/shrinkage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 21 February 2013, 11:18:22
    I'm looking for a keyboard as good of quality as a Filco or better with Cherry stabilizers, square frame and no logo.

    Any takes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lu_e on Thu, 21 February 2013, 13:22:15
    104 (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,fullsize)

    or  87 (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless)

    ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 21 February 2013, 13:26:52
    Quote from: Lu_e on Thu, 21 February 2013, 13:22:15
    104 (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,fullsize)

    or  87 (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless)

    ?

    87... Yuk 104 :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lu_e on Thu, 21 February 2013, 14:04:16
    What do you think of the leopold I linked?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Thu, 21 February 2013, 14:15:41
    What kind of controller does the Noppoo choc mini use allowing NKRO over USB? And where can I get one besides destroying one? :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 21 February 2013, 15:07:14
    Quote from: Lu_e on Thu, 21 February 2013, 14:04:16
    What do you think of the leopold I linked?

    Not too crazy about the case design. Are they made as solid as the Filco's? I'll be honest, the reason I want to try a cherry stabilizer, is because I really don't like the meta ting of the wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:20:24
    Quote from: calavera on Thu, 21 February 2013, 14:15:41
    What kind of controller does the Noppoo choc mini use allowing NKRO over USB? And where can I get one besides destroying one? :P

    FYI my Leopold FC200R also manages to do WELL over 6kro over USB.  I don't know why they don't advertise that fact.  I can't hit the limit (it's over 16) with my fingers, I have to used my palm.  Tested here (http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/KeyboardGhostingDemo.mspx)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: okooko on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:38:58
    Q.
    What do you usually do when you buy another KB knowing your significant other half will be pissed beyond godlike?

    (I just get prepared to spend double, so $xxx.xx for the KB, and $xxx.xx for the hu$h) lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:40:20
    Quote from: okooko on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:38:58
    Q.
    What do you usually do when you buy another KB knowing your significant other half will be pissed beyond godlike?

    (I just get prepared to spend double, so $xxx.xx for the KB, and $xxx.xx for the hu$h) lol

    Apparently a very common answer is to hide them in random cardboard boxes then stash em in the basement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:59:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:40:20
    Quote from: okooko on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:38:58
    Q.
    What do you usually do when you buy another KB knowing your significant other half will be pissed beyond godlike?

    (I just get prepared to spend double, so $xxx.xx for the KB, and $xxx.xx for the hu$h) lol

    Apparently a very common answer is to hide them in random cardboard boxes then stash em in the basement.

    Yeah, or in a disorganized closet, garage, etc. Get a P.O. box. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 February 2013, 18:46:47
    Just go for the hard counter. Yes, honey, I bought all these boards but here, I bought you this piece of jewelry as well!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 21 February 2013, 19:09:31
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 22:05:49
    Explain dark matter.

    I can't explain it because we don't know what it is. All that scientists can be sure about is that their projections about the mass of the universe are not right. If I recall correctly, they think the universe should be expanding at a much faster rate than we observe. Their explanation for why it is not expanding faster is that there must be some large amount of unaccounted mass slowing down the expansion. Since only about 10% of the universe emits radiation (light, x-rays, etc.) we can only observe that small amount. Or maybe they forgot to distribute a -1 somewhere, I dunno.

    Maybe there are giant shrimp-like creatures floating through space, eating planets in their path?

    Meh, next question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sai on Thu, 21 February 2013, 19:24:15
    Why and When did Cherry stop making their famous keycaps?
    (if this has been answered, please link me to it. I'd like to read them :D )
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: okooko on Thu, 21 February 2013, 19:56:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 February 2013, 18:46:47
    Just go for the hard counter. Yes, honey, I bought all these boards but here, I bought you this piece of jewelry as well!

    Mate, the next piece of jewelry she is expecting is probably a ring.
    Id rather get scolded than fork out that amount of money that I obviously do not have and the implications if I were to do so.
     (after all my custom IEMS are about to come in the mail, i think the isolation is extreme!)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Fri, 22 February 2013, 11:58:39
    Did Noppoo Chic mini just change the bottom row on their keyboards?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gubz/8384026044/in/photostream/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 22 February 2013, 12:04:27
    Stemming off of that, is the Noppoo Choc Mini PCB or Plate mounted?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Fri, 22 February 2013, 12:09:02
    Aren't choc mini's all plate mounted?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 22 February 2013, 12:10:48
    I wasn't sure, that's why I asked. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Fri, 22 February 2013, 15:43:26
    All of mine are plate mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 22 February 2013, 15:44:15
    Ah. Thank you. Much appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GordonZed on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:07:11
    I bought a DK9008 but now want the DK9087. Is this just a side effect of joining Geekhack, or should I make the switch once it arrives?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:22:06
    would it be possible to make a custom keyboard with buckling springs (so it would be programmable, NKRO or 6KRO)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:28:27
    Quote from: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:22:06
    would it be possible to make a custom keyboard with buckling springs (so it would be programmable, NKRO or 6KRO)?

    It's hard but do-able. mkawa is making a bunch of custom SSK right now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:44:57
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:28:27
    Quote from: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:22:06
    would it be possible to make a custom keyboard with buckling springs (so it would be programmable, NKRO or 6KRO)?

    It's hard but do-able. mkawa is making a bunch of custom SSK right now
    Yeah I know that, but 2KRO is probably a deal breaker for me :( But what would I have to do to make that possible? Make a custom PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rootwyrm on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:45:42
    Quote from: GordonZed on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:07:11
    I bought a DK9008 but now want the DK9087. Is this just a side effect of joining Geekhack, or should I make the switch once it arrives?

    Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:49:48
    Are double shot ABS considered "thick" like an imsto PBT thick? I've seen a couple doublshot ABS called "thin" but I'm still a little confused on the matter regarding mixing / matching PBT thicks and ABS double-shots.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:57:57
    Quote from: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:44:57
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:28:27
    Quote from: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:22:06
    would it be possible to make a custom keyboard with buckling springs (so it would be programmable, NKRO or 6KRO)?

    It's hard but do-able. mkawa is making a bunch of custom SSK right now
    Yeah I know that, but 2KRO is probably a deal breaker for me :( But what would I have to do to make that possible? Make a custom PCB?

    I don't think BS board can have a PCB. But I'm not 100%

    Quote from: L4yercake on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:49:48
    Are double shot ABS considered "thick" like an imsto PBT thick? I've seen a couple doublshot ABS called "thin" but I'm still a little confused on the matter regarding mixing / matching PBT thicks and ABS double-shots.

    Depends. SP is pretty thin DS keys and Cherry's are considered thick

    Not all DS caps are created the same!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 23 February 2013, 07:51:03
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:57:57
    Quote from: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:44:57
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:28:27
    Quote from: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:22:06
    would it be possible to make a custom keyboard with buckling springs (so it would be programmable, NKRO or 6KRO)?

    It's hard but do-able. mkawa is making a bunch of custom SSK right now
    Yeah I know that, but 2KRO is probably a deal breaker for me :( But what would I have to do to make that possible? Make a custom PCB?

    I don't think BS board can have a PCB. But I'm not 100%

    Quote from: L4yercake on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:49:48
    Are double shot ABS considered "thick" like an imsto PBT thick? I've seen a couple doublshot ABS called "thin" but I'm still a little confused on the matter regarding mixing / matching PBT thicks and ABS double-shots.

    Depends. SP is pretty thin DS keys and Cherry's are considered thick

    Not all DS caps are created the same!
    Or get an F with a Soarer-verter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Sat, 23 February 2013, 11:56:46
    Now this leads me too a somewhat related follow up question. Is it / would it be possible to make double-shots for back-lit keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: aviphysics on Sat, 23 February 2013, 12:14:56
    Quote from: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:44:57
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:28:27
    Quote from: llovro on Sat, 23 February 2013, 03:22:06
    would it be possible to make a custom keyboard with buckling springs (so it would be programmable, NKRO or 6KRO)?

    It's hard but do-able. mkawa is making a bunch of custom SSK right now
    Yeah I know that, but 2KRO is probably a deal breaker for me :( But what would I have to do to make that possible? Make a custom PCB?

    Couldn't you take the keyboard controller of your choice and hand wire the matrix for the buckling springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: aviphysics on Sat, 23 February 2013, 12:17:13
    Is there a way to get translucent on black double shots for a back lit keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 23 February 2013, 16:38:28
    Quote from: aviphysics on Sat, 23 February 2013, 12:17:13
    Is there a way to get translucent on black double shots for a back lit keyboard?

    Because of how the second shot flows around the first shot in the mold, they do not come out well. I have some "mistake" keys that Rayuki sent me, and three of them are the clear polycarbonate first shot, with white ABS as the second shot. I held them up to a bright light, and the "ESC" key shows the light pretty well, but the others don't look great. They don't pass light through the complete legend. Reversing the plastics in the process gives you our January and February GEEK HACK keycaps. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:00:05
    Clear first shot will look good if the molds are made for it to address that problem so that there are no lines from the second shot running through the legends.

    Cherry discontinued doubleshots in late 2010 or early 2011 possibly judging from internal assembly dates inside the keyboard. It happened not too long after the ZF buyout of Cherry, reason cited was cost effectiveness going by some conversations I have had with a few Cherry employees. The tooling was later sold entirely to GMK who have continued making them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: aviphysics on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:12:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 23 February 2013, 16:38:28
    Quote from: aviphysics on Sat, 23 February 2013, 12:17:13
    Is there a way to get translucent on black double shots for a back lit keyboard?

    Because of how the second shot flows around the first shot in the mold, they do not come out well. I have some "mistake" keys that Rayuki sent me, and three of them are the clear polycarbonate first shot, with white ABS as the second shot. I held them up to a bright light, and the "ESC" key shows the light pretty well, but the others don't look great. They don't pass light through the complete legend. Reversing the plastics in the process gives you our January and February GEEK HACK keycaps. :)

    From the GH keys, it seems like it is pretty clear what the problem is. Those keys look really neat though, unfortunately I am not that interested in slapping more branding on my board. I totally want the Vegas dice set carried out from 0 to 9. Either dots or numbers would be awesome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:32:57
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:00:05
    Clear first shot will look good if the molds are made for it to address that problem so that there are no lines from the second shot running through the legends.

    Cherry discontinued doubleshots in late 2010 or early 2011 possibly judging from internal assembly dates inside the keyboard. It happened not too long after the ZF buyout of Cherry, reason cited was cost effectiveness going by some conversations I have had with a few Cherry employees. The tooling was later sold entirely to GMK who have continued making them.

    Well I just placed a black ABS Cap on top of an LED and there was some major light-seepage through the cap. If the molds were to be adjusted I'd think you'd have to first make them the thicker style caps as well as have a different mold for each letter/symbol. GB anyone?  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:39:04
    Quote from: L4yercake on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:32:57
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:00:05
    Clear first shot will look good if the molds are made for it to address that problem so that there are no lines from the second shot running through the legends.

    Cherry discontinued doubleshots in late 2010 or early 2011 possibly judging from internal assembly dates inside the keyboard. It happened not too long after the ZF buyout of Cherry, reason cited was cost effectiveness going by some conversations I have had with a few Cherry employees. The tooling was later sold entirely to GMK who have continued making them.

    Well I just placed a black ABS Cap on top of an LED and there was some major light-seepage through the cap. If the molds were to be adjusted I'd think you'd have to first make them the thicker style caps as well as have a different mold for each letter/symbol. GB anyone?  :p

    I think making new molds for the injection molding machines is very expensive. Old Cherry ABS doubleshots are apparently very thick. But I've never seen a board with them/typed on them so I'm not 100% sure
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:42:41
    Cherry keys are totally opaque, no light passes at all regardless of the color either. GMK had some clear first shot in a sample picture that was sent to us, so I would guess they are allready on top of it. I put in a request about having some done like this for a set of lock keys already to test it out before suggesting it for 46/47 (alpha numerics) or full sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:42:59
    Thats what I figured, but fun to think about nonetheless.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: aviphysics on Sat, 23 February 2013, 18:09:56
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 23 February 2013, 17:42:41
    Cherry keys are totally opaque, no light passes at all regardless of the color either. GMK had some clear first shot in a sample picture that was sent to us, so I would guess they are allready on top of it. I put in a request about having some done like this for a set of lock keys already to test it out before suggesting it for 46/47 (alpha numerics) or full sets.

    Well make sure to let us all know if anything happens. I would be very excited to get a alpha numeric set. An alpha numeric set with translucent second shots might be even cooler though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ihateregister on Tue, 26 February 2013, 03:09:12
    I have three major questions;

    #A: My previous keyboard with scissor keys (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard?crid=26) (3.2 mm travel), with a Logitech Illuminated Keyboard (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard?crid=26), no rollover, white-LEDs, USB.

    #B: My new keyboard is a CM Storm Trigger (http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=3089) with Cherry Red MX switches (2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom), red-LEDs, 6 rollover, USB, with 5 macros.

    1. O-Rings, where do you get them cheap, with near maximum reduction of movement. (EPDM? 40A? ~3/16 ID, 3/8 OD, 3/32 W = 2.38mm reduction) I'm a heavy typer. The leds are very close to the cherry switches (http://i50.tinypic.com/2a5b08y.jpg), would a larger o-ring affect the LEDs used in my keyboard, or am I just being paranoid?
    2. How much work would it take to replace red with white? I'm familiar with soldering, but not so sure if the resistors are going to be the same as long as the lumen output is very close?
    3. My CM Storm Trigger keyboard has the "stacked keys" is there a way to make it flatter, and less tall? the keys feel huge to me. Can key caps be bought, or designed that are shorter? Is it expensive?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 February 2013, 06:21:39
    Quote from: ihateregister on Tue, 26 February 2013, 03:09:12
    I have three major questions;

    #A: My previous keyboard with scissor keys (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard?crid=26) (3.2 mm travel), with a Logitech Illuminated Keyboard (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard?crid=26), no rollover, white-LEDs, USB.

    #B: My new keyboard is a CM Storm Trigger (http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=3089) with Cherry Red MX switches (2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom), red-LEDs, 6 rollover, USB, with 5 macros.

    1. O-Rings, where do you get them cheap, with near maximum reduction of movement. (EPDM? 40A? ~3/16 ID, 3/8 OD, 3/32 W = 2.38mm reduction) I'm a heavy typer. The leds are very close to the cherry switches (http://i50.tinypic.com/2a5b08y.jpg), would a larger o-ring affect the LEDs used in my keyboard, or am I just being paranoid?
    2. How much work would it take to replace red with white? I'm familiar with soldering, but not so sure if the resistors are going to be the same as long as the lumen output is very close?
    3. My CM Storm Trigger keyboard has the "stacked keys" is there a way to make it flatter, and less tall? the keys feel huge to me. Can key caps be bought, or designed that are shorter? Is it expensive?

    1) You can get O-rings at WASDKeyboards. I wrote a review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0) on them if you wanted to get some of my thoughts on them. You can also order a sampler pack from WASD which would allow you to try out some o-rings before you bought them.

    2) I don't know enough about soldering LEDs to answer :(

    3) Yes keycaps can be bought that are lower profile. The CM Storm Trigger has CM's OEM profile. You'll probably want to look for a Cherry profile or a Leopold OEM profile. Many group buys from Signature Plastics have a Cherry imitation profile. Besides that, I believe imsto's keycap sets are Cherry profile. Or you can buy an old Cherry keyboard for just the keycaps. You can check the GB section or classifieds for pricing. I'm no long sure what "expensive" means to most people anymore :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ihateregister on Tue, 26 February 2013, 20:25:46
    First off, thanks for the informative responses. :)

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 February 2013, 06:21:39
    1) You can get O-rings at WASDKeyboards. I wrote a review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0) on them if you wanted to get some of my thoughts on them. You can also order a sampler pack from WASD which would allow you to try out some o-rings before you bought them.
    All of the WASD O-Rings are tiny, in fact his last announcement about them is they have a newer smaller one. (Doh!) This is the opposite of what I am looking for, my brother bought a pack of the thickest ones, and you cant really feel the difference, but the sound dampening is there. I thought about double stacking (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=5450.msg385117#msg385117), but then I'm paying at least double... so might be better to buy in bulk. Ive found that mcmaster.com seems to only offer 70A and harder orings. The cheap stuff seems to be made out of nitrate, the better stuff out of silicone, or perhaps EDPM rubber.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 February 2013, 06:21:39
    2) I don't know enough about soldering LEDs to answer :(
    This is a fustrating subject, it seems like all the reviews I've read simply get the keyboard, keep it, and copy paste the same review over and over again. The most "daring" reviewers will remove a key or two to show off the LED with no specs at all. Most say just look for the actual size. (3mm, 5mm, etc etc) The best review I could find is this one: tweaktown.com (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5137/cm_storm_trigger_cherry_mx_green_mechanical_gaming_keyboard_review/index7.html)
    I am reasonably certain I have 3mm sized red leds. I found some nice 3mm's here (http://www.electron.com/leds/through-hole-leds/3mm-leds/). Not sure if I want to resolder a bunch of stuff to experiment just yet.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 February 2013, 06:21:39
    3) Yes keycaps can be bought that are lower profile. The CM Storm Trigger has CM's OEM profile. You'll probably want to look for a Cherry profile or a Leopold OEM profile. Many group buys from Signature Plastics have a Cherry imitation profile. Besides that, I believe imsto's keycap sets are Cherry profile. Or you can buy an old Cherry keyboard for just the keycaps. You can check the GB section or classifieds for pricing. I'm no long sure what "expensive" means to most people anymore :P
    This seems very complicated, with people in the "know" saying it's common sense, OEMS (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35285.msg654984#msg654984) a "common" that alot of keyboard makers make. (Including coolermaster.) Another factor is that there are some makers who use different sized keys for different parts of their keyboard, and/or poorer quality keys that do not fit, or have uneasy leveling like they are using damaged molds. I guess I will need to find out the exact dimensions of a OEM Key. As far as price range. I have no clue. I would think $20-25 is a good price range. There are exactly 109 keys on my board. The more duh, is that smaller keycaps would make me use smaller sized o-rings. So I might just want to leave it at OEM key size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 February 2013, 21:22:52
    Stock OEM caps like ones off your QFR usually go for like $15-25. New sets like the Klaxon or the CCnG Round 2 might go for $100 for a fulllset.

    And if you're just looking at reviews, I wouldn't expect there to be a guide on how to resolder stuff. Check out the "Making stuff together" subforum. I'm sure you'll learn a lot there. Or hop on IRC and ask the chat whats up.

    Recently I saw a sale in the classifieds where someone was selling the 70A o-rings. I thought 50A was way too much personally. But you can definitely get them.

    Yeah, I did this in reverse order ^_^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 26 February 2013, 21:36:33
    Simple Question :)

    I'm pretty sure these are thick based on photos, but are they OEM profile? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.223.FIQId3&id=17720311404
    More photos from an older G80-3496 keyboard thread , but I'm only interested in the red caps - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37466.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 February 2013, 05:18:30
    Looks like they're Cherry profile? I'm just assuming because it says "KBC Cherry" on the taobao link and the second link has the red alphas with stock black keys. If they're not the same profile, then there'd be a weird jump between the QWERTY row and the 12345 row. That's the reason why I sold my alpha set from Takaki. Great caps; looked good on the Leo, but I couldn't get used to the gap (the alphas were higher than the 12345 row).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 27 February 2013, 10:57:46
    So in other words they'll match up with Imsto thick? I remember what happened with the keys you got from Takaki, but they were higher than your Leopold keys, while these (KBC reds) would be lower, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 February 2013, 11:11:18
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 27 February 2013, 10:57:46
    So in other words they'll match up with Imsto thick? I remember what happened with the keys you got from Takaki, but they were higher than your Leopold keys, while these (KBC reds) would be lower, right?

    I would think so but let's try for some backup. Hey SmallFry, help your pupil out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Grimey on Wed, 27 February 2013, 12:05:57
    I have asked this in several venues and never received and answer.  Did NMB ever make a Space Invader board in a 101/104 US-ANSI layout as we would expect it today (No big ass enterkey, full sized backspace)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 February 2013, 12:29:17
    @Jocelyn yes those are same thick Cherry profile PBT that imsto sell, in fact they even had the red at one point and maybe still do.

    @Grimey I have never seen one, always with the bigass in 'ANSI' though have seen normal ISO version which I would find more preferable as I completely hate bigass enter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 27 February 2013, 13:55:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 February 2013, 11:11:18
    I would think so but let's try for some backup. Hey SmallFry, help your pupil out?

    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 February 2013, 12:29:17
    @Jocelyn yes those are same thick Cherry profile PBT that imsto sell, in fact they even had the red at one point and maybe still do.

    @Grimey I have never seen one, always with the bigass in 'ANSI' though have seen normal ISO version which I would find more preferable as I completely hate bigass enter.

    Thank You for the answers! So I can get a 37 + Escape set of blanks for only ~$13 (+5% agent fee and $5 shipping) or the same set with legends for only ~$30?
    Please let me know, because I have not seen blanks available, outside of the WASD set, from Imsto or Feng and this price almost seems too good to be true. I'd really like to use some of these with Imsto's blank grey caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 February 2013, 13:59:00
    If you want printed ones, feng has them stock in the ebay store here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KBC-Red-Dyesub-Thick-PBT-37-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/230892913898?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item35c24a44ea).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 27 February 2013, 14:08:36
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 February 2013, 13:59:00
    If you want printed ones, feng has them stock in the ebay store here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KBC-Red-Dyesub-Thick-PBT-37-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/230892913898?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item35c24a44ea).

    Thing is that I don't think I want them printed and I have a really good agent (Bhiner). So the 75 Yuan ones are blanks, right?
    I'll probably order the grey blanks from Feng via PM if I decide to go this route. Thanks for all of your help :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GordonZed on Wed, 27 February 2013, 18:59:08
    How long does one have to be a member in order to put an item for sale in the classified section? I'm assuming it's based on post count?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 27 February 2013, 19:00:05
    60 posts
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JPG on Wed, 27 February 2013, 19:08:13
    Quote from: ihateregister on Tue, 26 February 2013, 20:25:46
    First off, thanks for the informative responses. :)

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 February 2013, 06:21:39
    1) You can get O-rings at WASDKeyboards. I wrote a review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0) on them if you wanted to get some of my thoughts on them. You can also order a sampler pack from WASD which would allow you to try out some o-rings before you bought them.
    All of the WASD O-Rings are tiny, in fact his last announcement about them is they have a newer smaller one. (Doh!) This is the opposite of what I am looking for, my brother bought a pack of the thickest ones, and you cant really feel the difference, but the sound dampening is there. I thought about double stacking (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=5450.msg385117#msg385117), but then I'm paying at least double... so might be better to buy in bulk. Ive found that mcmaster.com seems to only offer 70A and harder orings. The cheap stuff seems to be made out of nitrate, the better stuff out of silicone, or perhaps EDPM rubber.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 February 2013, 06:21:39
    2) I don't know enough about soldering LEDs to answer :(
    This is a fustrating subject, it seems like all the reviews I've read simply get the keyboard, keep it, and copy paste the same review over and over again. The most "daring" reviewers will remove a key or two to show off the LED with no specs at all. Most say just look for the actual size. (3mm, 5mm, etc etc) The best review I could find is this one: tweaktown.com (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5137/cm_storm_trigger_cherry_mx_green_mechanical_gaming_keyboard_review/index7.html)
    I am reasonably certain I have 3mm sized red leds. I found some nice 3mm's here (http://www.electron.com/leds/through-hole-leds/3mm-leds/). Not sure if I want to resolder a bunch of stuff to experiment just yet.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 February 2013, 06:21:39
    3) Yes keycaps can be bought that are lower profile. The CM Storm Trigger has CM's OEM profile. You'll probably want to look for a Cherry profile or a Leopold OEM profile. Many group buys from Signature Plastics have a Cherry imitation profile. Besides that, I believe imsto's keycap sets are Cherry profile. Or you can buy an old Cherry keyboard for just the keycaps. You can check the GB section or classifieds for pricing. I'm no long sure what "expensive" means to most people anymore :P
    This seems very complicated, with people in the "know" saying it's common sense, OEMS (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35285.msg654984#msg654984) a "common" that alot of keyboard makers make. (Including coolermaster.) Another factor is that there are some makers who use different sized keys for different parts of their keyboard, and/or poorer quality keys that do not fit, or have uneasy leveling like they are using damaged molds. I guess I will need to find out the exact dimensions of a OEM Key. As far as price range. I have no clue. I would think $20-25 is a good price range. There are exactly 109 keys on my board. The more duh, is that smaller keycaps would make me use smaller sized o-rings. So I might just want to leave it at OEM key size.

    I just got some 0-rings on Amazon a few days ago. They are 70A. I got some 1/16 thick (code 008), and some thicker (code 106). I found that I prefer the 1/16 better, but I always liked the travel on cherry boards. I must say that I really like the hardness of the 70A o-rings, but I havent tried any other. I wanted hard o-rings because I dont like mushy things. Also, they were CHEAP. Like less than 2$ forma pack of 100. Worth a try I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 February 2013, 20:04:41
    Quote from: JPG on Wed, 27 February 2013, 19:08:13

    I just got some 0-rings on Amazon a few days ago. They are 70A. I got some 1/16 thick (code 008), and some thicker (code 106). I found that I prefer the 1/16 better, but I always liked the travel on cherry boards. I must say that I really like the hardness of the 70A o-rings, but I havent tried any other. I wanted hard o-rings because I dont like mushy things. Also, they were CHEAP. Like less than 2$ forma pack of 100. Worth a try I think.

    That's good to know. I didn't know where people got the 70A o-rings.


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 February 2013, 11:11:18
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 27 February 2013, 10:57:46
    So in other words they'll match up with Imsto thick? I remember what happened with the keys you got from Takaki, but they were higher than your Leopold keys, while these (KBC reds) would be lower, right?

    I would think so but let's try for some backup. Hey SmallFry, help your pupil out?

    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 February 2013, 12:29:17
    @Jocelyn yes those are same thick Cherry profile PBT that imsto sell, in fact they even had the red at one point and maybe still do.


    Hm, called for SmallFry and got Lysol/Ivan. What happens if I try and call Ivan? :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 27 February 2013, 20:43:00
    Do Cherry switches share the same bottom half? In other words, could I use the bottom half of a black switch with a blue stem and spring and essentially have a blue switch? I am assuming the top halves of the housings are all the same.

    So if you had the switches installed in one of the custom plates such as the phantom plates from WFD, you could just change the top half of the switch out and have a completely new switch type?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 February 2013, 20:45:47
    Housing is identical on all MX switch except locking, only differences are with stem/spring combinations.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 27 February 2013, 20:46:21
    Quote from: whiskytango on Wed, 27 February 2013, 20:43:00
    Do Cherry switches share the same bottom half? In other words, could I use the bottom half of a black switch with a blue stem and spring and essentially have a blue switch? I am assuming the top halves of the housings are all the same.

    So if you had the switches installed in one of the custom plates such as the phantom plates from WFD, you could just change the top half of the switch out and have a completely new switch type?

    Yes, switch bottoms and tops are the same with every switch except the MX locks. So you can change springs or stems with any cherry switch. I could take a switch that was originally a black switch and make an ergo clear, which is an entirely different spring and stem with no problem at all
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 February 2013, 20:47:30
    CPT calls, Ivan appears. CPT calls, SmallFry appears. YEW IS AWESOME SUPERHEROBRO!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Wed, 27 February 2013, 20:50:02
    Do 7x Spacerbars exist in Thick PBT? I have a feeling I'm going to have a MX Mini soon and its one of my concerns as well as the short right shift. Although I believe RGB sets were made at one point?

    And anywhere to purchase magenta LED's? What kinda of LED's do I want, I've been reading around and I see 3mm and 5mm both work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 February 2013, 20:51:54
    Unless you get actual Cherry PBT sets, 7x PBT spacebars are unicorns.
    Magenta LED's are a mystery to me, sorry. I think that if you can find the wavelength you could find them relatively cheap and abundant on Digikey/Mouser. I don't know the wavelength however.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Wed, 27 February 2013, 20:59:02
    If it helps, the ones from a Ducky YOTD Reds?

    And I just noticed I missed out on feng's spacerbar group buy, the humanity!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:01:11
    No thick PBT 7x spacebars.  Ever.   Show me one to prove me wrong :)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:06:59
    I looked up Violet on Mouser and got this link...here. (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Xicon/351-3314-RC/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmhkgS3sR5ux3fNgPNtlWgow%3d) I think these are 3mm and will work.
    If that link doesn't work follow this path to get to the product or search the Xicon 351-3314-RC:
    All Products » Optoelectronics » LED Indication » Standard LEDs - Through Hole » Xicon 351-3314-RC
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:07:25
    Quote from: alaricljs on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:01:11
    No thick PBT 7x spacebars.  Ever.   Show me one to prove me wrong :)


    Er, aren't Cherry sets a PBT spacebar if you get a set of dye subs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:17:21
    Right only old Cherry PBT set have thick, most easy to find on dyesubs Cherry sets, but some very old lasered set will also have them, like this one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-D-91275-PS-2-Keyboard-G81-3000LPDUS-00-/271156209116?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f222b65dc) should but I can't guarantee you that 100%. All the keys on it should be MX compatible though, not like recent MY thin PBT with that inbuild stabs garbage and it has the nice Cherry font not that uglier one they are using now and will have smooth lasering not rough.
    Depend what you are needing the led for, switch 2x3mm, 3mm or lock lights 3mm, 5mm on what size. You should be looking for 2.8-3.4fV, 20ma, 3000mc led.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Wed, 27 February 2013, 23:26:40
    So this should have a thick x7 PBT Spacebar? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-D-91275-PS-2-Keyboard-G81-3000LPDUS-00-/271156209116?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f222b65dc)

    Time to bust out the rit dye!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:23:18
    is Macintosh Keyboard (M0110) mechanical? If so what switches it uses?
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Apple_Macintosh_Plus_Keyboard.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:28:25
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:07:25
    Quote from: alaricljs on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:01:11
    No thick PBT 7x spacebars.  Ever.   Show me one to prove me wrong :)
    Er, aren't Cherry sets a PBT spacebar if you get a set of dye subs?

    My point being that I have yet to see one and I keep hearing "should" instead of "does"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:29:10
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:23:18
    is Macintosh Keyboard (M0110) mechanical? If so what switches it uses?
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Apple_Macintosh_Plus_Keyboard.jpg

    Yes, some form of alps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 28 February 2013, 12:40:18
    Don't dye that nice vintage PBT set, it is not likely to come out well dying used key from my experience. Most likely it will come out uneven and highlight the hell out of any scratches and wear. I have thick PBT spacebars from Cherry two 8x from typewriters and 7x on my HASRO set. If I had a camera I would take you some photos to prove the existence but you can just take my word for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 28 February 2013, 12:48:56
    IIRC, salmon/pink (depending on whom you ask).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 28 February 2013, 12:52:37
    No, M0110 have these:
    (http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/freeway775/KB-57-Apple-M0110A-T/AppleM0110A-TU-SB5S.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Thu, 28 February 2013, 12:59:42
    I sent a PM to someone because I wasn't sure where to ask this question, then I saw this thread.

    Oops.

    Anyways, what is the image size I can go with if I wanted to put an image on the R4 (number key row) and the backspace key?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 28 February 2013, 13:02:41
    What company is producing the keycap?  (presumably WASD)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Thu, 28 February 2013, 13:04:10
    Quote from: alaricljs on Thu, 28 February 2013, 13:02:41
    What company is producing the keycap?  (presumably WASD)

    Yeah, I think you'd have to go bulk anywhere else... Although I'm not 100% sure.
    My wife wants a special set made... so I was looking through some images to see what I could possibly do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Champloo on Thu, 28 February 2013, 13:06:20
    I've got WYSE keycaps on a QFR right now, the top num row and the alphas and I am looking for ideas on how to fill in the rest of the board.  I've thought about the black modifiers from SP or maybe finding some cherry stuff that may match the color scheme but I'm hoping you guys are more creative than I am.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 28 February 2013, 13:06:37
    WASD recommends a minimum of 200x200 for a standard cap, you can of course multiply that out by the keycap width to get the appropriate size for larger keys.  Backspace is 2x so 400x200 minimum, just keep the ratio and pump up the resolution for a nice clear image.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 February 2013, 13:08:39
    Quote from: Champloo on Thu, 28 February 2013, 13:06:20
    I've got WYSE keycaps on a QFR right now, the top num row and the alphas and I am looking for ideas on how to fill in the rest of the board.  I've thought about the black modifiers from SP or maybe finding some cherry stuff that may match the color scheme but I'm hoping you guys are more creative than I am.

    There's Klaxon, Toxic, Raindrop, and CCnG round 2 group buys running. See if you like any of those color schemes. You can also try Sherryton's store for ideas.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Thu, 28 February 2013, 13:13:33
    Quote from: alaricljs on Thu, 28 February 2013, 13:06:37
    WASD recommends a minimum of 200x200 for a standard cap, you can of course multiply that out by the keycap width to get the appropriate size for larger keys.  Backspace is 2x so 400x200 minimum, just keep the ratio and pump up the resolution for a nice clear image.

    Thank you.  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:26:17
    I'm new to mechanical keyboards I only have four so far but my question is what are the benefits of putting stickers in MX switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:30:45
    Quote from: MJ45 on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:26:17
    I'm new to mechanical keyboards I only have four so far but my question is what are the benefits of putting stickers in MX switches.

    Apparently the MX switches are slightly wobbly and stickers reduce that wobble. I don't really believe it myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:31:32
    Short answer: it is debatable that they do anything at all.

    Long answer: Cherry MX switches have a casing that is two halves clipped together in the middle.  The sticker goes between them and makes it a tighter fit.  This is supposed to keep the switch housing from moving ever so slightly when under pressure.  Perhaps it is also supposed to absorb vibration.  Anyway the koreans like 'em so everyone here pays for 'em (even me, and I firmly believe that they don't make any difference)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:32:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:30:45

    Apparently the MX switches are slightly wobbly and stickers reduce that wobble. I don't really believe it myself.

    I'll have to agree about them reducing the wobble being nonsense. They're really just for looks, and even then you're not really going to see them unless you're replacing caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:34:56
    I've got boards with and without and I can't tell any real difference.  My brain tries to say "Oh but maybe the switch feels slightly different/whatever" but yeah, I can't tell any difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:35:51
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 28 February 2013, 12:52:37
    No, M0110 have these:
    Show Image
    (http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/freeway775/KB-57-Apple-M0110A-T/AppleM0110A-TU-SB5S.jpg)

    Oh, right. My bad... :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:36:47
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:32:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 February 2013, 19:30:45

    Apparently the MX switches are slightly wobbly and stickers reduce that wobble. I don't really believe it myself.

    I'll have to agree about them reducing the wobble being nonsense. They're really just for looks, and even then you're not really going to see them unless you're replacing caps.

    I didn't believe it until I got my Vintage Blacks recently and it was visibly obvious the top / bottom wobble against each-other because the spring is pushing the top up and they don't sit flush. I'd say they help if you can actually see the wobble. I guess there are varying factory qualities though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Grimey on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:12:19
    What are the part numbers for Cherry Plate Stabilizers for 1X2 and standar spacebar (?1x6.25 or something)?  And if this is answered where is the best place to order these from?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:16:22
    Standard Cherry part numbers found in their datasheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm).  No where to order 6.25x from since they "don't exist".  Mouser and OnlineComponents are where you want to look.


    That said, I do still have a few sets of plate mount stabs for TKL boards w/ 6.25x space bars.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Grimey on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:20:39
    Quote from: alaricljs on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:16:22
    Standard Cherry part numbers found in their datasheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm).  No where to order 6.25x from since they "don't exist".  Mouser and OnlineComponents are where you want to look.


    That said, I do still have a few sets of stabs for TKL boards w/ 6.25x space bars.

    So if need to order a set for a poker plate/pcb combo that I got from iMav I should order...

    G99-0224 X4
    and which of the following for the space bar..
    G99-0226
    G99-0226
    G99-0379
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:23:01
    Either the 0226 or 0379 and then bend and cut for 6.25.   0226 will give you more room to maneuver since it's longer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:25:18
    I've recently done some bending and it is totally hard to get it just right.  Thank god the cherry wires are so much simpler than the costar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:33:37
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:25:18
    I've recently done some bending and it is totally hard to get it just right.  Thank god the cherry wires are so much simpler than the costar.

    That's the wonderful thing about getting your plate mount Cherry stabs from old WYSE boards. They have a 10x spacebar wire, so you just use an existing 6.25x or 7x wire to measure, and bend at 90 degrees with a pair of pliers. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:34:58
    Hey! You update your signature!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:35:28
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:33:37
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:25:18
    I've recently done some bending and it is totally hard to get it just right.  Thank god the cherry wires are so much simpler than the costar.

    That's the wonderful thing about getting your plate mount Cherry stabs from old WYSE boards. They have a 10x spacebar wire, so you just use an existing 6.25x or 7x wire to measure, and bend at 90 degrees with a pair of pliers. :D

    I found that method insufficient.  I took a hint from SmallFry and locked it in a vice and hammered it over.  Gives a nice 90 bend.  With hand tools it was too round which doesn't fit well into the stabilizer blocks, and will make the space feel weird.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:36:28
    Also, I used copper wire for my stab recently. Doesn't affect the feel whatsoever. Plus, it was easier to bend.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:44:52
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:35:28
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:33:37
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:25:18
    I've recently done some bending and it is totally hard to get it just right.  Thank god the cherry wires are so much simpler than the costar.

    That's the wonderful thing about getting your plate mount Cherry stabs from old WYSE boards. They have a 10x spacebar wire, so you just use an existing 6.25x or 7x wire to measure, and bend at 90 degrees with a pair of pliers. :D

    I found that method insufficient.  I took a hint from SmallFry and locked it in a vice and hammered it over.  Gives a nice 90 bend.  With hand tools it was too round which doesn't fit well into the stabilizer blocks, and will make the space feel weird.

    That actually describes my method more accurately. I hold the wire with the pliers, and bend it by hand to 90 degrees. Gives it a nice sharp angle, since the sides of the pliers are flat. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:45:11
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:33:37
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:25:18
    I've recently done some bending and it is totally hard to get it just right.  Thank god the cherry wires are so much simpler than the costar.

    That's the wonderful thing about getting your plate mount Cherry stabs from old WYSE boards. They have a 10x spacebar wire, so you just use an existing 6.25x or 7x wire to measure, and bend at 90 degrees with a pair of pliers. :D

    I am planning on doing this for my phantom with some of the WYSE stabs I have, but my problem is that I do not have a 7x wire to use as a template, or a 6.25 for that matter. Any suggestions? I guess I could try measuring the distance between the stabs once they are on the plate and try to duplicate that...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:48:01
    I'll take some pictures when I get home of what I did. Er, wait. I glued my stabs in. I took one end, put it in like normal. Then I put the other one in but not into the bent part. Mark the middle of the stab and then bend at that point... If that made any sense whatsoever.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:50:24
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:48:01
    I'll take some pictures when I get home of what I did. Er, wait. I glued my stabs in. I took one end, put it in like normal. Then I put the other one in but not into the bent part. Mark the middle of the stab and then bend at that point... If that made any sense whatsoever.

    Yeah, that's kinda what I meant when I said "measure". I was thinking to use the wire as a ruler and just mark it where the bend needs to be. If that has worked for you then I will go with that method probably. Unless I can get my hands on a 7x wire, but I only need one so then there'd be no point in bending another.... I will just go with what I have on hand I think
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:52:01
    Quote from: whiskytango on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:45:11
    I am planning on doing this for my phantom with some of the WYSE stabs I have, but my problem is that I do not have a 7x wire to use as a template, or a 6.25 for that matter. Any suggestions? I guess I could try measuring the distance between the stabs once they are on the plate and try to duplicate that...

    I'm sending you those blue switches on Monday. Send me a spacebar wire, and I'll send you a 7x bent one. :) If you want a 6.25, I can do that, too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Grimey on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:56:28
    Quote from: alaricljs on Fri, 01 March 2013, 12:23:01
    Either the 0226 or 0379 and then bend and cut for 6.25.   0226 will give you more room to maneuver since it's longer.

    So the alternative would be to buy Costar style stabs + wires and file (cut, whatever) the plate to fit those then?  I assume this is also possible?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:59:35
    yes for 6.25.  If you want Costar 7x then you need to bend that.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 01 March 2013, 14:01:16
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:52:01
    Quote from: whiskytango on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:45:11
    I am planning on doing this for my phantom with some of the WYSE stabs I have, but my problem is that I do not have a 7x wire to use as a template, or a 6.25 for that matter. Any suggestions? I guess I could try measuring the distance between the stabs once they are on the plate and try to duplicate that...

    I'm sending you those blue switches on Monday. Send me a spacebar wire, and I'll send you a 7x bent one. :) If you want a 6.25, I can do that, too.

    Ok, that works for me. I just need the 7x I think. Don't have any plans to put cherry stabs in anything that uses 6.25... yet anyway. I will go ahead and get your stuff ready and ship it out from this end too. Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Grimey on Fri, 01 March 2013, 14:01:52
    Quote from: alaricljs on Fri, 01 March 2013, 13:59:35
    yes for 6.25.  If you want Costar 7x then you need to bend that.  :)

    Thanks, I think I will try this path with one of my poker plates I got.  The stabilizer spacing seems fine for width, but the holes are not tall enough for the wire holder to fit in properly.  I think a bit of filing or grinding could solve that issue (especially as I already have plenty of the costar style elements sitting around).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Skull_Angel on Fri, 01 March 2013, 14:06:38
    (not sure how "simple" this question/answer is)

    What's required to swap Costar plate mount stabilizers to Cherry plate mount? (figure there'll be soldering work)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 01 March 2013, 14:13:10
    Quote from: Skull_Angel on Fri, 01 March 2013, 14:06:38
    (not sure how "simple" this question/answer is)

    What's required to swap Costar plate mount stabilizers to Cherry plate mount? (figure there'll be soldering work)

    Desolder all the switches from the plate and the find a new plate that supports cherry stabilizers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 03 March 2013, 18:33:46
    I want to buy a stepped caps lock, so Is a Poker's Caps lock center or off-center stem? I don't have my Poker or a Caps lock in front of me :(

    Quote from: metalliqaz on Sun, 03 March 2013, 18:34:36
    Center stem

    Figured it had to be. Thank You :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 03 March 2013, 18:34:36
    Center stem
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Sun, 03 March 2013, 18:40:38
    Does anyone do printing on blank keycaps? Say, if you bought some of the blank caps from SP's inventory page, is there a way to get some sort of legends printed on them?

    SP inventory site I am referencing: http://keycapsdirect.com/key-capsinventory.php (http://keycapsdirect.com/key-capsinventory.php)

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:15:30
    I found a Focus FK2001 for 50 cents at Goodwill so I bought it, but it has what I think is an AT style connector. The adapter that was hooked up to it is missing some pins on the PS/2 end and doesn't work. Would one of these work?

    http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F2N017-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B00000J1UB
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:35:01
    Quote from: whiskytango on Sun, 03 March 2013, 18:40:38
    Does anyone do printing on blank keycaps? Say, if you bought some of the blank caps from SP's inventory page, is there a way to get some sort of legends printed on them?

    SP inventory site I am referencing: http://keycapsdirect.com/key-capsinventory.php (http://keycapsdirect.com/key-capsinventory.php)

    Thanks

    Easiest route is WASDkeyboards.com.  They will etch anything you want onto keycaps for you.  You don't even have to provide the blanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:46:39
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:15:30
    I found a Focus FK2001 for 50 cents at Goodwill so I bought it, but it has what I think is an AT style connector. The adapter that was hooked up to it is missing some pins on the PS/2 end and doesn't work. Would one of these work?

    http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F2N017-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B00000J1UB

    After being educated by my keyboard professor SmallFry, I have learned that yes, that converter will work. He also recommends this adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Keyboard-Converter-Adapter-Din5f/dp/B000067RBR/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362361464&sr=1-4&keywords=at+to+ps+2+adapter). I like how you'll be spending 4x the amount of money on the adapter :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:55:16
    The longer wire one takes the stress off your PS/2 port.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 03 March 2013, 20:33:22
    Great, thanks guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CaptainAsshat on Mon, 04 March 2013, 17:05:34
    Why do the cherry mx plate mount cutouts I see on plans around the forum have extra slots on the sides of the main square, even though the cherry mx datasheets just have the square?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 04 March 2013, 17:06:39
    So you can open the switches to exchange stem and spring without having to unsolder the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CaptainAsshat on Mon, 04 March 2013, 17:08:03
    Cool thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Harryboii on Tue, 05 March 2013, 07:09:30
    what does double shot mean? I am new to the world of mechanical keyboards and geekhack and would love to get to know everything. Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Tue, 05 March 2013, 07:19:35
    Quote from: Harryboii on Tue, 05 March 2013, 07:09:30
    what does double shot mean? I am new to the world of mechanical keyboards and geekhack and would love to get to know everything. Thank you.
    It means that the keycap is molded around a plastic or metal insert, which makes the keycap very durable but more expensive too.
    (http://i50.tinypic.com/168iyvk.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 05 March 2013, 11:23:17
    To expand on that, the purpose of doubleshot is that the legend of the key (what is printed on it) is plastic that runs all through the key. Effectively it will never wear off until a hole is created through the entire keycap. It has a superior durability to the typical pad printed or lasered legends.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Wed, 06 March 2013, 01:06:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:46:39
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:15:30
    I found a Focus FK2001 for 50 cents at Goodwill so I bought it, but it has what I think is an AT style connector. The adapter that was hooked up to it is missing some pins on the PS/2 end and doesn't work. Would one of these work?

    http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F2N017-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B00000J1UB

    After being educated by my keyboard professor SmallFry, I have learned that yes, that converter will work. He also recommends this adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Keyboard-Converter-Adapter-Din5f/dp/B000067RBR/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362361464&sr=1-4&keywords=at+to+ps+2+adapter). I like how you'll be spending 4x the amount of money on the adapter :D

    Oo oo can you be my professor then? You my go to guy anyway!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 06 March 2013, 01:09:43
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Wed, 06 March 2013, 01:06:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:46:39
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:15:30
    I found a Focus FK2001 for 50 cents at Goodwill so I bought it, but it has what I think is an AT style connector. The adapter that was hooked up to it is missing some pins on the PS/2 end and doesn't work. Would one of these work?

    http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F2N017-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B00000J1UB

    After being educated by my keyboard professor SmallFry, I have learned that yes, that converter will work. He also recommends this adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Keyboard-Converter-Adapter-Din5f/dp/B000067RBR/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362361464&sr=1-4&keywords=at+to+ps+2+adapter). I like how you'll be spending 4x the amount of money on the adapter :D

    Oo oo can you be my professor then? You my go to guy anyway!
    By that process, you ask him, he asks me, I tell him, he tells you. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 March 2013, 21:52:41
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 06 March 2013, 01:09:43
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Wed, 06 March 2013, 01:06:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:46:39
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sun, 03 March 2013, 19:15:30
    I found a Focus FK2001 for 50 cents at Goodwill so I bought it, but it has what I think is an AT style connector. The adapter that was hooked up to it is missing some pins on the PS/2 end and doesn't work. Would one of these work?

    http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F2N017-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B00000J1UB

    After being educated by my keyboard professor SmallFry, I have learned that yes, that converter will work. He also recommends this adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Keyboard-Converter-Adapter-Din5f/dp/B000067RBR/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362361464&sr=1-4&keywords=at+to+ps+2+adapter). I like how you'll be spending 4x the amount of money on the adapter :D

    Oo oo can you be my professor then? You my go to guy anyway!
    By that process, you ask him, he asks me, I tell him, he tells you. :P

    There can only be one pupil to the grandmaster :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Reomero on Thu, 07 March 2013, 23:38:12
    How do POM keycaps differ from the more familiar ABS and PBT keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 08 March 2013, 01:19:41
    I've mainly only seen POM in clear caps, whereas ABS or PBT are solid colors. I think ABS can also be translucent although not that common, and PTB must be a solid color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 08 March 2013, 06:31:13
    I've definitely seen solid black POM.  I've heard that POM has even better texture robustness than PBT or ABS, but I don't know first hand.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: badcop on Fri, 08 March 2013, 06:51:58
    has anyone had issues with desoldering leds on a poker?  i'm having one hell of a time with it.  flux, wick, pump nothing is working right.  :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 06:54:44
    I've never had a full set of POM but I do have a few single caps. They feel like slicker ABS caps imo. And they seem to already have a bit of shine because of the material properties.

    My PBT caps seem to keep their texture better than my ABS caps though.

    Quote from: badcop on Fri, 08 March 2013, 06:51:58
    has anyone had issues with desoldering leds on a poker?  i'm having one hell of a time with it.  flux, wick, pump nothing is working right.  :confused:

    Try tinning your tip first. Put some solder onto the tip. Make it almost silver and then touch it to the joint. I also prefer wicks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 08 March 2013, 07:00:26
    Wicks are not very good for getting all the solder out of through holes.  I'd rather hard to get it all.  I use a desoldering iron.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: badcop on Fri, 08 March 2013, 07:31:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 06:54:44
    I've never had a full set of POM but I do have a few single caps. They feel like slicker ABS caps imo. And they seem to already have a bit of shine because of the material properties.

    My PBT caps seem to keep their texture better than my ABS caps though.

    Quote from: badcop on Fri, 08 March 2013, 06:51:58
    has anyone had issues with desoldering leds on a poker?  i'm having one hell of a time with it.  flux, wick, pump nothing is working right.  :confused:

    Try tinning your tip first. Put some solder onto the tip. Make it almost silver and then touch it to the joint. I also prefer wicks.

    yeah its tinned.  im only getting the solder thats on the surface not inside the hole.  hmmm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:00:50
    Gotta use something that "sucks" :P  Also get some flux on there.  It will prevent oxidation with the reheat and it helps to distribute heat too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:20:09
    Try adding more solder, then using the pump. That's been the only method that works for me. Just get a big glob of solder melted on there, then suck it with the pump. Should bring the stuff up through the hole.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: singaporean123 on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:33:26
    can pcb mount switches be soldered with a plate?

    i understand that pcb mount switches = 4 pins while plate mounted switches = 2 pins..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bavman on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:36:22
    Yes but you need to cut them off or else they won't fit in the pcb

    or you mean like use a plate on a pcb mounted board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:37:50
    Quote from: bavman on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:36:22
    Yes but you need to cut them off or else they won't fit in the pcb
    Unless the PCB has those holes. :P The Phantom PCB for example.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bavman on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:38:58
    What's that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:39:12
    And KMAC.  Has the PCB mount holes even though it is plate mount. I design my own boards that way, too.  Keep those options open!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 08 March 2013, 08:40:06
    Plated board with PCB switches and a proper PCB to accept them is a very solid keyboard to type on.  Even more solid when you stick it in a 8lb case like the 456GT (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38455.0)  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 08 March 2013, 09:58:10
    Couple questions

    1.   Anyone here have any affiliation with or know how to get in contact with http://www.originativeco.com/?   Reason for asking is I was wondering about their SSL status when placing an order as the other day I was at the checkout page and noticed the page was not secure so I backed out.  I then went to their facebook page and asked about this and have not heard any response back. 

    2.  How do the different weight springs on that site compare to the springs in clears and browns? 

    3.  Also would like to know how many springs come in an order from that site.

    4.  If their SSL issues don't get sorted out does anyone know where I can get a set of keys for TKL board with the two tone grey theme similar to the ones at orininatice but with custom legends on the front of the key for the function layer I am currently in the process of attempting to build?

    5.  When desoldering a key on my Phantom board I accidently ripped the small copper pad off the side of the board between the PCB and the plate.  Will this cause the board/key to never work again or can do I not need to worry about this as it was only the pad on the once side of the PCB? 

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 11:15:01
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 08 March 2013, 09:58:10
    Couple questions

    1.   Anyone here have any affiliation with or know how to get in contact with http://www.originativeco.com/?   Reason for asking is I was wondering about their SSL status when placing an order as the other day I was at the checkout page and noticed the page was not secure so I backed out.  I then went to their facebook page and asked about this and have not heard any response back. 

    Melvang

    I'm at work right now so I can't get on originativeco to look up your other questions. But you can message the guy who runs it here on GH. His name is Sherryton. You can also find him in his vendor subforum (http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=137.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 08 March 2013, 11:55:47
    I've already made a thread in the DIY section, but I thought I'd post here too.. Does anyone know exactly what screws are used to secure the filco plate/pcb to the bottom half of the case? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 18:29:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 08 March 2013, 09:58:10
    Couple questions

    2.  How do the different weight springs on that site compare to the springs in clears and browns? 

    3.  Also would like to know how many springs come in an order from that site.

    4.  If their SSL issues don't get sorted out does anyone know where I can get a set of keys for TKL board with the two tone grey theme similar to the ones at orininatice but with custom legends on the front of the key for the function layer I am currently in the process of attempting to build?
    Melvang

    2) Browns have a 45cN actuation force w/ a peak at 55cN. Clears are 55cN actuation with a 65cN. 1 cN is about 1 gram of force. And I believe the Korean springs count the peak actuation. So browns are 55g and clears are 65g.

    3) I can't find pictures or any amount. I'd PM sherryton. He's usually quick to respond on GH. The word is there should be 100 springs per pack.

    4) Sounds like you might have to snag a WYSE keycap set and then see if WASD keyboards can put custom legends on the caps. WYSE can be found in GH and DT classifieds I think. I believe I recently saw some for relatively cheap in the GH classifieds. Custom legends I'm a bit fuzzy on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 08 March 2013, 18:37:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 18:29:51
    Clears are 55cN actuation with a 65cN.

    I thought clears had a 65cN actuation force w/ peak of 80cN. I'm asking, not stating :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 19:21:08
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 08 March 2013, 18:37:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 18:29:51
    Clears are 55cN actuation with a 65cN.

    I thought clears had a 65cN actuation force w/ peak of 80cN. I'm asking, not stating :)

    I just took the numbers from the Deskthority Wiki. I think this is why mkawa is started that project to get accurate measurements.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 08 March 2013, 19:40:43
    Will Sherry ever get his act together? I need SSL, a decent buying interface, and a site that doesn't take forever to load. When will this happen?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 19:41:56
    A wise man once told me this nugget of wisdom: It shall be here "SoonTM"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 08 March 2013, 19:43:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 19:41:56
    A wise man once told me this nugget of wisdom: It shall be here "SoonTM"

    EA?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 19:46:38
    Quote from: The_Beast on Fri, 08 March 2013, 19:43:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 19:41:56
    A wise man once told me this nugget of wisdom: It shall be here "SoonTM"

    EA?

    And Blizzard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 08 March 2013, 19:50:37
    And Sherry apparently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 09 March 2013, 12:16:44
    What profile is ISO-Enter, numpad-Enter, and numpad "+"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Sat, 09 March 2013, 12:57:19
    How do I put an image in my signature?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 09 March 2013, 13:08:21
    For Cherry enter for either ANSI, ISO or J and + is C profile, and numpad 1x2 enter can come in either A or B profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: absyrd on Sat, 09 March 2013, 13:10:23
    Quote from: Gupgup on Sat, 09 March 2013, 12:57:19
    How do I put an image in my signature?

    Use the usual [.img][/img.] tags (take out the "."s). May be a size restriction, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 09 March 2013, 13:11:03
    Code: [Select]
    [img]INSERT IMAGE URL HERE[/img]I think. Not positive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 March 2013, 13:11:34
    Images in your signature must be no greater than 777x70 pixels
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Sat, 09 March 2013, 22:10:15
    How many Rosegold ironmen were made?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Reluctant member on Sun, 10 March 2013, 06:02:39
    Hi,

    Could anyone tell me what type of key caps were used on the Heathkit H9 and does anyone know where I can get some please?
    (http://www.atticbargains.com/wp-content/themes/shopperpress/thumbs/Heathkit-009-1024x768.jpg)
    Many thanks for any help you can give, I've been trying to find these for years!

    RM
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 March 2013, 09:22:37
    Quote from: Reluctant member on Sun, 10 March 2013, 06:02:39
    Hi,

    Could anyone tell me what type of key caps were used on the Heathkit H9 and does anyone know where I can get some please?
    Show Image
    (http://www.atticbargains.com/wp-content/themes/shopperpress/thumbs/Heathkit-009-1024x768.jpg)

    Many thanks for any help you can give, I've been trying to find these for years!

    RM

    Those look like relegendable keycaps. I believe they have and ABS base with a Polycarbonate overcap. You can either find an old board that has them and salvage them, such as that Heathkit H9 or Cherry Point of Sales keyboards. You can also find them at Signature Plastics. Check out this link (http://keycapsdirect.com/faq.php#13) and this link (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/marketplace.php).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 11 March 2013, 17:57:37
    Where can I get a QFR with Greens?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 March 2013, 18:00:52
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 11 March 2013, 17:57:37
    Where can I get a QFR with Greens?

    Supposedly CM will be carrying them again and I've heard rumors that MK.com should be as well. But I'm not sure there's any out there right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zoolzoo on Tue, 12 March 2013, 05:26:06
    Is there a retail outlet online that sells MX clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Tue, 12 March 2013, 05:32:09
    If by that you mean switches... Mouser (http://www.mouser.com/Electromechanical/_/N-5g1x?Keyword=mx1a-c1&FS=True) or OnlineComponents (http://www.onlinecomponents.com/keywordsearch.aspx?text=mx1ac)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zoolzoo on Tue, 12 March 2013, 05:33:03
    Quote from: alaricljs on Tue, 12 March 2013, 05:32:09
    If by that you mean switches... Mouser (http://www.mouser.com/Electromechanical/_/N-5g1x?Keyword=mx1a-c1&FS=True) or OnlineComponents (http://www.onlinecomponents.com/keywordsearch.aspx?text=mx1ac)

    Yes the entire switch. No retailers sell just stems right?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Tue, 12 March 2013, 05:34:14
    No they certainly do not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Tue, 12 March 2013, 09:31:18
    Here we go:

    I'm curious about how durable the springs are in Cherry MX switches.

    Do heavier keys like metal ones(1x1, backspace, space bar) wear out springs quicker?

    By wearing out I mean is does it ever come to a point where a switch spring can't hold the keycap up any more and it just rests in the pressed down position on its own?



    Part 2:

    Do stabilizers add more weight to a key? I mean cherry stabilizers rest in the down position. You push the keycap down onto the stab +'s and then the switch pulls the stabilizer up, does this add weight?



    Reason I ask is I didn't like the feel too much of my left shift when I was gaming. Tried some lube, still didn't like the feel.

    So basically I took the 2 stems and the metal wire out of the stabilizer and left the part that the key actually lands on in. I put o-rings on all three stems of the shift key so it has a nice landing on the switch and the  landing part of the stab, and stuck it back on. Feels amazing now but I'm starting to worry about if the shift keycap weight might were out the spring? They are cherry blacks.

    Am I committing switch suicide? If not I'm considering doing this to all my stabilized keys(except space bar) if not.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 12 March 2013, 09:41:33
    Cherry MX switches are tested to last for 50 million actuations.  I doubt the weight of the keys makes any difference at all.  They always go back to the same position regardless.

    The only problem I see is that your switch is no longer stabilized, so if you hit the key off-center, it will not depress evenly.  Still probably won't damage the switch, it just won't feel right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Tue, 12 March 2013, 09:59:21
    That's what I was hoping. I have tiny fingers and my pinky always lightly hits near the centre of the shift key so hopefully this will work out.

    Feels amazing compared to before and its nice sounding.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Tue, 12 March 2013, 10:11:47
    What is the difference between a Tsangan kit and a Moogle?  Is a Tsangan kit a moogle kit for specific keyboards?  If so, which ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 12 March 2013, 10:33:56
    This has been asked several times, but essentially...

    Key set       ->   needs this kit       ->   for these boards
    key set with old-fashioned 1.5x mods/off-center caps -> moogle kit -> modern board (Filco, etc)
    key set for modern filco-type board -> tsangan kit -> old-fashioned board (cherry, KMAC, etc)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Tue, 12 March 2013, 10:46:12
    So ...

    Old keyset on new keyboards needs moogle.
    New keyset on old keyboards needs tsangan.

    If it is roughly accurate that will be easy for me to remember.  Thanks for the fast reply.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 12 March 2013, 11:12:35
    Yep, that's pretty much it.  Although tsangan kits are needed for more than old boards.  Many Korean custom boards also need them.  Usually you can just look at the mods for a good rule of thumb.

    If you need some 1.5x mods/7x space to get your key set to fit on your board, you need a tsangan.
    If you need some 1.25x mods/6.25x space to get your keys to fit on your board, you need a moogle.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 12 March 2013, 12:53:51
    Or if people simply stopped calling them nicknames and say 1.25 kit, 1.5 kit... there would be less confusion since it is literal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Tue, 12 March 2013, 13:15:19
    Do metal cases for Ducky exist? Aluminum or SS?

    I was thinking of trying to mod a filco/vortex aluminum case until I noticed the LED holes on the front.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1839cc on Wed, 13 March 2013, 11:25:35
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 08 March 2013, 18:37:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 March 2013, 18:29:51
    Clears are 55cN actuation with a 65cN.

    I thought clears had a 65cN actuation force w/ peak of 80cN. I'm asking, not stating :)

    I think that's for light gray/dark gray/green switches. Clear springs are very close to blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 13 March 2013, 11:38:27
    Clear spring actuate at 65cN, but bottom out is 100cN according to Cherry datasheet. So while actuation force is close to black, bottom out is lighter at 80cN.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 13 March 2013, 11:40:15
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 13 March 2013, 11:38:27
    Clear spring actuate at 65cN, but bottom out is 100cN according to Cherry datasheet.

    Haha I was just about to link a post of yours about this :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1839cc on Wed, 13 March 2013, 12:22:47
    So how much force does it take for the three I mentioned? 80/150?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 13 March 2013, 13:22:50
    Has Filco ever produced a board with clears? Also, what's the difference between white and green mx?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 13 March 2013, 13:22:57
    Sadly those are missing nice graphs in the datasheet (http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0146/0900766b8014611b.pdf). If you look more towards the end on the pages that are sideways it does give the operating forces, but not the bottom out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DavinDidIt on Wed, 13 March 2013, 18:04:44
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Tue, 12 March 2013, 13:15:19
    Do metal cases for Ducky exist? Aluminum or SS?

    I was thinking of trying to mod a filco/vortex aluminum case until I noticed the LED holes on the front.

    Nope :(

    but if you can get it made, let me know!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 March 2013, 18:06:27
    Quote from: DavinDidIt on Wed, 13 March 2013, 18:04:44
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Tue, 12 March 2013, 13:15:19
    Do metal cases for Ducky exist? Aluminum or SS?

    I was thinking of trying to mod a filco/vortex aluminum case until I noticed the LED holes on the front.

    Nope :(

    Pretty sure the custom metal cases you see are for TKL/60% only and even then it's only for a few boards, Ducky not being one of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 13 March 2013, 20:29:07
    Poker question. I'm using my left Win key as function, which works fine, but I can't switch L FN and ALT and I'd really like to (Alt changes and works, but FN doesn't work). Probably not a simple question, but my L CTRL Caps lock switch is also not working. Is it possible dip switches 2 & 3 could be broken? 1 & 4 currently work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 March 2013, 20:34:52
    Simple Questions Jocelyn!! Just kidding, lemme see if I can scrounge an answer up or if someone else pops in with some knowledge.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 13 March 2013, 20:37:41
    SmallFry to the rescue! http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32804.0 The poker manual is wrong, some of the dip switches are backwards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 March 2013, 20:38:46
    Did you unplug the Poker before changing the DIP switch setting?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 13 March 2013, 20:50:20
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 13 March 2013, 20:37:41
    SmallFry to the rescue! http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32804.0 The poker manual is wrong, some of the dip switches are backwards.
    Yes, I'm already aware of it being backwards. Thanks SmallFry :)

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 March 2013, 20:38:46
    Did you unplug the Poker before changing the DIP switch setting?

    Yes. I even tried unplugging for a minute lol.

    So individually, 1 and 4 do what they're supposed to do, while 3 kinda works and 2 doesn't work at all.

    3 - FN_L(Window L) , ALT_L Swap Position (per backwards manual) Alt changes, while L WIN/L FN does not. I've tried it with WIN and FN and neither work as the inside key.
    I want my FN Keys on the inside :(

    2 - Caps Lock , Ctrl L Swap Position (per backwards manual) no swapping at all. I could live without this one, but I was surprised when it didn't work.

    Edit - Rebooted and now 2 is working! Will edit again in a minute :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 13 March 2013, 20:55:14
    That sucks. I love mine with 1 and 3 on. That gives me FN keys to the left and right of the spacebar. It takes away one of my alts, but I don't use it that often anyways
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 13 March 2013, 21:05:19
    Quote from: The_Beast on Wed, 13 March 2013, 20:55:14
    That sucks. I love mine with 1 and 3 on. That gives me FN keys to the left and right of the spacebar. It takes away one of my alts, but I don't use it that often anyways

    Yes, I really wish I knew what was going on, I want 1 & 3!!!!
    So 1,2, and 4 work, while 3 swaps Fn/Win with Alt and allows alt to work, but I get no Win or Fn. Win/Fn and Alt do work in their normal position with 3 off, so hmmm wonder what it could be.

    Thanks everyone...

    Edit - It's almost as if 4 (Win Lock) is traveling with 3 even though it's not.
    Could they possibly be tied together on my Poker somehow, as in 3 does 3 & 4 and 4 does 4? My guess is no, but you people who solder would know more than me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:19:52
    So do I own a retarded Poker? :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:22:50
    It's okay, Jocelyn. Mine is kind of retarded as well. My g is pretty lame. A little hard to get it to register consistently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:23:54
    Who knows? I don't use the DIP switches, specifically because of these issues. This is one of two main reasons we created the GH60, so that you can program every key to what YOU want it to be. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:26:35
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:22:50
    It's okay, Jocelyn. Mine is kind of retarded as well. My g is pretty lame. A little hard to get it to register consistently.


    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:23:54
    Who knows? I don't use the DIP switches, specifically because of these issues. This is one of two main reasons we created the GH60, so that you can program every key to what YOU want it to be. :P

    Thanks for the encouragement you two lol :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:29:45
    See what happens when you ask complicated questions? Your keyboard is designated as retarded! :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:30:46
    jd, can I program my g to be a g?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:40:26
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:30:46
    jd, can I program my g to be a g?

    Hey if that's what you're into, who am I to judge?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WarNutts on Fri, 15 March 2013, 01:23:51
    I'm confused about keycap "profile"

    If I get dyesub thick pbt's and vortex dye sub pbts will they be matching sets in terms of height and how they fit on my keyboard?

    Im currently using a filco with regular caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 15 March 2013, 01:27:38
    Quote from: WarNutts on Fri, 15 March 2013, 01:23:51
    I'm confused about keycap "profile"

    If I get dyesub thick pbt's and vortex dye sub pbts will they be matching sets in terms of height and how they fit on my keyboard?

    Im currently using a filco with regular caps.

    They will match only if you buy the Vortex dye sub pbt from Feng's GB (white, blue, purple, light gray, rainbow, etc,.) Vortex black on black dye sub pbt is higher oem profile and thin unlike the other two sets you mentioned.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Fri, 15 March 2013, 03:07:28
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:19:52
    So do I own a retarded Poker? :(
    you own a female poker!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 15 March 2013, 07:08:26
    ...and we have a new master troll
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Fri, 15 March 2013, 10:19:41
    How much is a bloodbath brobot worth?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 March 2013, 10:25:07
    Quote from: Gupgup on Fri, 15 March 2013, 10:19:41
    How much is a bloodbath brobot worth?

    Please use this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0) for Price Checks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 10:40:32
    WarNutts, it depends which Vortex set are you referring to? They have had both OEM and Cherry profile set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:08:32
    The "GMK/Cherry doubleshot modifer packs" Group Buy ... http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.90 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.90)

    Seems like a lot of keys are included but many of them are variations on the same key.  Is that to accommodate all the different size of keys on various boards?

    For example, I like the idea of CMYK modifiers but unless I am missing something (very possible) it is looks like you get 16 keys total but only 6 would be usable on a particular board (2 x Shift, 2 x CTRL, 2 x Alt) depending on the board's particular key spacing/layout. 

    CMYK (black on color keycap) modifiers pack - 16 key set - price: €25.00 / $33.00
        Shift – Yellow (4 keys):  1.25, 1.75, 2.25, 2.75 B profile
        Ctrl – Magenta (6 keys; 2x each):  1.0. 1.25, 1.5 B profile
        Alt – Cyan (3 keys; 1x each):  1.0, 1.25, 1.5  B profile
        Alt Gr – Cyan (3 keys; 1x each):  1.0, 1.25, 1.5  B profile

    Order Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEZqaXRZUUFXcExHRGhvbjBucEpkY0E6MQ#gid=0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEZqaXRZUUFXcExHRGhvbjBucEpkY0E6MQ#gid=0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:10:56
    Quote from: mushupork on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:08:32
    Is that to accommodate all the different size of keys on various boards?

    Yes, it accommodates more people which should lead to more orders.


    Plus instead of have 3 different kits, you only have one. It makes the kit slightly more expensive, but then you don't need to hunt for those rare kits once you get a board with a unique layout (which you more than likely will, even if you don't think you will now)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:15:27
    Right, so one set fit all. You could use it on a Filco or similar with 1.25 in ANSI or ISO, older winkeyless, kit or stuff like iOne with 1.5 ANSI or ISO, or non standard like Choc mini that have both 1.5 and 1, and G80-1800 with 1 unit. I just piled it all into one set to streamline ordering. For some people it may be possible to fit more than one board with a single set depending on which keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:17:08
    It would be even MORE possible with more shift keys! :­D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:20:39
    But then you wouldn't have to order more sets and reaching MOQ would be even harder  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:20:47
    Thanks - did not want to pollute the Group Buy thread with this since everyone seemed to get it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:21:21
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:20:39
    But then you wouldn't have to order more sets and reaching MOQ would be even harder  ;)

    Quite the balance you have there! :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:21:30
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:20:39
    But then you wouldn't have to order more sets and reaching MOQ would be even harder  ;)
    Reaching MOQ would be even easier with less Shift keys! :­D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:22:27
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:21:30
    Reaching MOQ would be even easier with less Shift keys! :­D

    And Blanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:28:05
    No, not for everything. Then some things are even less likely to reach moq without the most common ones to give aid. I look at it like this. Some people may feel they don't need something, until they decide they want to buy some other board and suddenly may need other size key, or even if not that you will have some other keys for trading. Also if later on one decided that they aren't so into them you have triple the chance of a sale due to the flexibility of the sets.

    It didn't really occur to me many people would want all blank ABS. The blank keys that are offered in the purple set was more out of necessity due to lack of wanted legends to add more compatibility than anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:29:44
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:28:05
    No, not for everything. Then some things are even less likely to reach moq without the most common ones to give aid. I look at it like this. Some people may feel they don't need something, until they decide they want to buy some other board and suddenly may need other size key, or even if not that you will have some other keys for trading.
    I were jokin'
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:54:34
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 11:28:05
    It didn't really occur to me many people would want all blank ABS. The blank keys that are offered in the purple set was more out of necessity due to lack of wanted legends to add more compatibility than anything.

    (http://imageshack.us/a/img402/7097/seriously2.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:18:01
    Show Image
    Quote from: Anynoupy on Sat, 22 September 2012, 17:19:04
    Added to my Poker :

    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8455/8012497958_d952d3ccf7_z.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8455/8012497958_53cb925624_o.jpg)

    IronMan SE Gold on Black & Graphite Set <3

    I tried PMing Anynoupy a while ago but to no avail. Anybody know who made this Graphite set, and where these kinds of legends are from? That arrow under the enter key is dead sexy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:21:44
    Those are the same legends on the Korean CCnG, so I suppose them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:22:17
    I will auction the samples if money need to be raised if there is order shortfall. Otherwise if not I will raffle them at the end of the buy and some lucky person will get them in their order. You may find it shocking I am not using them and only put them on a board once to take the photos  :eek: they are just sitting unloved in a little baggie.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:23:45
    The Graphite Set was made by one of the Korean communities, though I don't recall OTD or KBDMania. The legends were completely custom and nobody really liked them, so it wasn't produced for very many sets. The only two sets I've ever seen were CCnG (Korean) and the Graphite sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:25:45
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:23:45
    The Graphite Set was made by one of the Korean communities, though I don't recall OTD or KBDMania. The legends were completely custom and nobody really liked them, so it wasn't produced for very many sets. The only two sets I've ever seen were CCnG (Korean) and the Graphite sets.
    Heart is broken.

    Edit: But thanks for the quick answer! Really appreciate it :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:26:16
    I have a set, though I won't let it go for cheaply.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:28:47
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:22:17
    I will auction the samples if money need to be raised if there is order shortfall. Otherwise if not I will raffle them at the end of the buy and some lucky person will get them in their order. You may find it shocking I am not using them and only put them on a board once to take the photos  :eek: they are just sitting unloved in a little baggie.
    Go ahead and just drop them in my order.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:57:15
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 15 March 2013, 12:26:16
    I have a set, though I won't let it go for cheaply.

    I have one of each of those Korean sets, and I feel the same. :)

    I personally like the legends.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: khaangaaroo on Fri, 15 March 2013, 20:07:18
    How come there isn't a standardized way of rating springs? Can someone put together a chart of Cherry and Korean springs on the same scale?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 15 March 2013, 21:19:41
    Quote from: khaangaaroo on Fri, 15 March 2013, 20:07:18
    How come there isn't a standardized way of rating springs? Can someone put together a chart of Cherry and Korean springs on the same scale?

    There's only two standards, not really that complicated.  Aftermarket springs are measured at the bottom, OEM are measured at activation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 16 March 2013, 01:47:06
    Do cherry profile 1.75x R Shifts exist, and if so are they all ABS? I'm on the lookout if something like this exists, but have a feeling all of them have been made by SP.

    Edit - An 1800 R Shift would work I think, but is this cherry profile?
    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.13.VBzjrN&id=15962128659
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 16 March 2013, 07:02:51
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:22:50
    It's okay, Jocelyn. Mine is kind of retarded as well. My g is pretty lame. A little hard to get it to register consistently.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 14 March 2013, 16:23:54
    Who knows? I don't use the DIP switches, specifically because of these issues. This is one of two main reasons we created the GH60, so that you can program every key to what YOU want it to be. :P

    I fixed it! The leaf spring on the Alt key was a little too far away/seperated to actuate, and I was mistaken about the Alt key working in it's normal position. Esoomenona, you should try looking at your G's leaf spring.
    Thanks everyone, my 1 & 3 are now working perfectly :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 16 March 2013, 07:45:37
    Leaf spring?  I do not think it means (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaf_spring) what you think it means.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 16 March 2013, 07:52:01
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Sat, 16 March 2013, 07:45:37
    Leaf spring?  I do not think it means (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaf_spring) what you think it means.

    lol I thought I've seen it referred to as "leaf spring", but whatever. All I know is that the "rail" wasn't touching the "leaf" and I fixed it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Sat, 16 March 2013, 08:42:59
    How come the Noppoo Choc Mini doesn't get more love?

    Is it not plate mounted w/ costar stabs and affordable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 March 2013, 09:03:01
    A little subjective Lunartuna but I'll take a shot at this.

    First off I was under the impression it was PCB mounted. Second, it's got the weird 75% layout. I have a G84-4100 and it's really hard to adapt to the layout. I really don't like the dedicated arrow keys. Or the stock keys really; the side printing makes it look cluttered. And because of the odd layout, this means a lot of the keysets that are popular (Red Alert, CCnG, etc) cannot be used unless there are specialty keys made/found.

    If I'm spending $100, I'd rather get a poker/pure or even the new found Filco deals (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41257.msg824259#msg824259).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 16 March 2013, 09:10:37
    I would say that the Choc mini layout takes hardly any adaptation at all.  Everything is in the right place except for the arrows and sixpack.  I think it doesn't get any love simply because it just isn't the new hot thing anymore.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Sat, 16 March 2013, 09:34:19
    Going by the pics on this guys ebay store...

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Noppoo-Choc-Mini-84-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Black-/250856182331?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3a6831923b&_uhb=1#ht_8941wt_1163

    Looks plate mounted? I'm a newb still.

    Also it looks like he has a newer version?

    I might pick one up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 March 2013, 09:59:11
    You're right, it's plate mounted. I'm not sure about the new version though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Sat, 16 March 2013, 10:15:57
    I really like the layout, and I don't plan on putting a whole matching set of keycaps on it. I'll use my ducky for that.

    This would be a board for at work that I will stick random novelty caps on row 1, probably an arrow key set and the various other random caps like the ones from the GH Jan pack.

    I've read that it has wacky firmware but will that matter if I mess with it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 March 2013, 10:17:59
    Cool. Sounds like it's a good match for you. You can use AutoHotKey to program the board as you like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 16 March 2013, 10:27:57
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 16 March 2013, 01:47:06
    Do cherry profile 1.75x R Shifts exist, and if so are they all ABS? I'm on the lookout if something like this exists, but have a feeling all of them have been made by SP.

    Edit - An 1800 R Shift would work I think, but is this cherry profile?
    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.13.VBzjrN&id=15962128659

    You don't want those keys they are terrible quality. I am not sure who made them but they have some really odd profile too. It's like DCS but higher, but not as high as OEM.
    To my knowledge there is no proper Cherry RGB with 1.75 shift yet. For standard color (light grey, medium grey, beige, black) you can get them off 1800 in ABS, PBT (light color only) or POM (black only).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 March 2013, 10:30:11
    I have a question for you Mr. Ivan. What's the easiest way for me to get Cherry Doubleshots for my Filco 104 MJ2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 16 March 2013, 10:34:19
    White on black, you need 2 keyboard which can be found on ebay often. First you need either 8113H**US or 8200H**US for the bottom row and full touch caps lock, then you need something like a MY8000H**US for the doubleshots of function and nav keys.
    Black on white/grey just buy a set from originative. Finding vintage in this colorway with 1.25 and fulltouch caps lock is a ballbreaker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 March 2013, 10:37:53
    I think I like the white on black more than the black on white. SmallFry's got some on his Phantom and its super hot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Sat, 16 March 2013, 11:43:40
    Okay, I have a question, perhaps dumb, I'm not sure.

    But if I were to buying a KBC Poker (for example) and then purchased a case like this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35213.0), would I be able to take the KBC 'guts' out and implant them in this Aluminum case? Is that feesible, or do I have to build an entire board around these types of cases? I just ask because I'm not certain how great I am at piecing together switches and such and if I have to manually make one myself.. ima need to practice. o.O

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: laffindude on Sat, 16 March 2013, 11:48:44
    Quote from: blueasjim on Sat, 16 March 2013, 11:43:40
    Okay, I have a question, perhaps dumb, I'm not sure.

    But if I were to buying a KBC Poker (for example) and then purchased a case like this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35213.0), would I be able to take the KBC 'guts' out and implant them in this Aluminum case? Is that feesible, or do I have to build an entire board around these types of cases? I just ask because I'm not certain how great I am at piecing together switches and such and if I have to manually make one myself.. ima need to practice. o.O

    Thanks!
    A few caps + 5 screws are all that stand in your way to swapping cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Sat, 16 March 2013, 11:59:49
    Quote from: laffindude on Sat, 16 March 2013, 11:48:44
    Quote from: blueasjim on Sat, 16 March 2013, 11:43:40
    Okay, I have a question, perhaps dumb, I'm not sure.

    But if I were to buying a KBC Poker (for example) and then purchased a case like this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35213.0), would I be able to take the KBC 'guts' out and implant them in this Aluminum case? Is that feesible, or do I have to build an entire board around these types of cases? I just ask because I'm not certain how great I am at piecing together switches and such and if I have to manually make one myself.. ima need to practice. o.O

    Thanks!
    A few caps + 5 screws are all that stand in your way to swapping cases.

    Awesome. Thanks for the clarification. Really helps. Now for the round 3 buy (hopefully). :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 16 March 2013, 11:59:50
    That case you linked was made exactly for that poker you mentioned.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Sat, 16 March 2013, 12:01:04
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 16 March 2013, 11:59:50
    That case you linked was made exactly for that poker you mentioned.

    Oh, I didn't know that. Awesome, thank you. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Sat, 16 March 2013, 19:24:53
    what size spacebar fits a WASD v1?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 16 March 2013, 19:26:17
    Quote from: eRadicatedZomBiE on Sat, 16 March 2013, 19:24:53
    what size spacebar fits a WASD v1?

    6.25 unit
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Sat, 16 March 2013, 19:31:59
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 16 March 2013, 19:26:17
    Quote from: eRadicatedZomBiE on Sat, 16 March 2013, 19:24:53
    what size spacebar fits a WASD v1?

    6.25 unit

    Thank you
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sniping on Sat, 16 March 2013, 21:28:53
    What do people mean when they say proxy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 16 March 2013, 21:34:21
    Quote from: Sniping on Sat, 16 March 2013, 21:28:53
    What do people mean when they say proxy?

    When someone in one location of the world buys an item for someone located elsewhere and ships it to them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 March 2013, 21:48:31
    Quote from: Sniping on Sat, 16 March 2013, 21:28:53
    What do people mean when they say proxy?

    Say you want to get a Leopold FC700R. Right now the most reliable way is to buy it from a retailer in Australia. But I live in the USA. How do I handle shipping and money differences? The easiest way is to have someone help you buy it, called a proxy. I pay my buddy $XX. He goes and buys the thing for me and ships it to me.  That way you don't have to convert money or deal with shipping. You can just have someone help you buy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:33:37
    Could someone give me an example of how to put an image in my signature? I've been trying but I can't get it to show up, it is probably really easy haha. Sorry and thanks!


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:36:36
    Quote from: Gupgup on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:33:37
    Could someone give me an example of how to put an image in my signature? I've been trying but I can't get it to show up, it is probably really easy haha. Sorry and thanks!


    Gupgup

    You should just not put on in your sig


    they're annoying IMO
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:37:15
    my question....how do you build a gh60?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:43:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:37:15
    my question....how do you build a gh60?

    Simple way: Solder switches, install into case, install caps

    Hard way: Install switches onto plate, solder switches, install into case, install caps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:49:40
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:43:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:37:15
    my question....how do you build a gh60?

    Simple way: Solder switches, install into case, install caps

    Hard way: Install switches onto plate, solder switches, install into case, install caps

    next step for me: learn how to solder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:50:38
    Some pics of how a custom board looks without a case. The_Beast's directions can be applied to this. This is SmallFry's Phantom.

    Side View
    (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0mgcAgKt3zA/UUU8FIYBT-I/AAAAAAAAApQ/74Qc3H77Qeg/s912/DSCF2103.JPG)

    Bottom View
    (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Awa9YIaGRw0/UUU81R9GaXI/AAAAAAAAAp4/-4566esysZ8/s912/DSCF2105.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:51:57
    HEY! I didn't say you could post those! :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:53:32
    That solder joint on 14 looks a bit small don't ya think?


    I am dissapoint
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 16 March 2013, 23:09:47
    It was the angle I took the picture at. The joint is solid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 17 March 2013, 08:00:45
    He just has way too much solder on the rest of the joints, so it looks like too little in comparison.

    :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 17 March 2013, 09:07:51
    Yes, generally too much.  Thankfully keyboards are very forgiving.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Sun, 17 March 2013, 09:41:13
    I'm sure I'll have another round of questions once I accumulate enough Poker/Phantom parts to attempt a build, but my question today is about the complete opposite end of the keyboard spectrum; 122-key Unicomp keyboards.

    Background: I want to use AutoHotKey to remap/add functions for some of the keys on a Unicomp 122-key Model M (#BO40B56).  I downloaded and installed AHK on my work laptop, seems to work fine and I tried a few sample scripts I've found online, the board works well using the PS2 port on the docking station. 

    Question: AHK suggests adding a new keyboard profile to the application once it's installed, to use as a template for key-mapping.  Are there sources for these templates already created for this 122-key unit?  I don't want to have to create one from scratch if there's a library of existing samples somewhere.

     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Sun, 17 March 2013, 16:42:02
    Hey leave the guys soldering alone!

    At least he solders, I just sit here thinking about it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:18:36
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Sun, 17 March 2013, 16:42:02
    Hey leave the guys soldering alone!

    At least he solders, I just sit here thinking about it.

    Just giving him a hard time.

    Thinking about it won't get that solder melted! Get yourself an iron and some solder and start practicing. LOL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:38:20
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,roofs&pid=rfhh

    Will this keyboard roof fit a poker?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:48:22
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:38:20
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,roofs&pid=rfhh

    Will this keyboard roof fit a poker?

    Yes :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:50:20
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:48:22
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:38:20
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,roofs&pid=rfhh

    Will this keyboard roof fit a poker?

    Yes :)
    ~Oooooh. Sweet. Thanks for the quick answer :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 17 March 2013, 19:07:51
    Has anyone ever sold/made colored (anodized) aluminum plates that would fit a Filco board (i.e. with 2 holes for the led's?) Or is it just simpler to break off the led's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 17 March 2013, 19:19:48
    The Phantom ANSI125 plate would fit a Filco. It was black anodized aluminum. And had holes for the LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Sun, 17 March 2013, 20:49:22
    The Logitech LX-300 - is it mechanical?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 17 March 2013, 20:53:16
    Quote from: ping111 on Sun, 17 March 2013, 20:49:22
    The Logitech LX-300 - is it mechanical?

    Nope, logitech only has one mechanical keyboard on the market right now, the G710
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 17 March 2013, 21:03:38
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 17 March 2013, 19:07:51
    Has anyone ever sold/made colored (anodized) aluminum plates that would fit a Filco board (i.e. with 2 holes for the led's?) Or is it just simpler to break off the led's.
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 17 March 2013, 19:19:48
    The Phantom ANSI125 plate would fit a Filco. It was black anodized aluminum. And had holes for the LEDs.

    What about the Filco controller though? Phantom plates don't accommodate to that, that's why I designed my universal (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.0) TKL plates. Fits both Filco and Phantom, but it just hasn't been anodized yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:26:57
    On the KBT Pure, is there anyway to move the arrow cluster on the function layer to where they are on the Poker?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:30:27
    Are there CoolerMaster StormTrigger TKL keyboards with non-proportional backlighting?  The proportions, for switch/backlight, is red/red, blue/blue, and brown/white.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:46:35
    Quote from: ping111 on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:30:27
    Are there CoolerMaster StormTrigger TKL keyboards with non-proportional backlighting?  The proportions, for switch/backlight, is red/red, blue/blue, and brown/white.

    Can you clarify? This question doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:47:25
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:26:57
    On the KBT Pure, is there anyway to move the arrow cluster on the function layer to where they are on the Poker?

    Unfortunately, no. What you want is called GH60. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:49:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:47:25
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:26:57
    On the KBT Pure, is there anyway to move the arrow cluster on the function layer to where they are on the Poker?

    Unfortunately, no. What you want is called GH60. :P

    That shameless promotion. I'm loving it haha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:51:55
    Is there something special about "the cheat" keyboards that makes them so expensive? Or were there limited quantities sold?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:53:31
    Quote from: eRadicatedZomBiE on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:51:55
    Is there something special about "the cheat" keyboards that makes them so expensive? Or were there limited quantities sold?

    Check this link out (http://dangwang.wordpress.com/2012/11/02/420-reviews-the-cheat/). It's a Korean custom and there's a limited amount of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Mon, 18 March 2013, 21:38:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:47:25
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:26:57
    On the KBT Pure, is there anyway to move the arrow cluster on the function layer to where they are on the Poker?

    Unfortunately, no. What you want is called GH60. :P

    I'm soooo not ready for something that custom! Yet!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 18 March 2013, 21:44:04
    All the hard parts will be assemble already on GH60. Adding switch is pretty easy with basic soldering skill. The programming should be much more friendly by the time the buy is concluded and it's shipping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 18 March 2013, 21:47:34
    Also, assembly service. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 18 March 2013, 21:47:49
    Quote from: eRadicatedZomBiE on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:51:55
    Is there something special about "the cheat" keyboards that makes them so expensive? Or were there limited quantities sold?

    It's the pure smexy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 18 March 2013, 21:51:37
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Mon, 18 March 2013, 21:38:33
    I'm soooo not ready for something that custom! Yet!

    Yes you are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 19 March 2013, 16:20:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:48:22
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:38:20
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,roofs&pid=rfhh

    Will this keyboard roof fit a poker?

    Yes :)
    Wow, they just removed this from their site [HHKB roof]. :[ I was just about to show my girlfriend this lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Tue, 19 March 2013, 16:39:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:46:35
    Quote from: ping111 on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:30:27
    Are there CoolerMaster StormTrigger TKL keyboards with non-proportional backlighting?  The proportions, for switch/backlight, is red/red, blue/blue, and brown/white.

    Can you clarify? This question doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
    The CM ST TKL keyboards have backlighting that follow the proportions I said.  However, I saw someone on YouTube with a brown-switch one, but it had blue backlights instead of white.  Did he custom-create it, or are keyboards like that available?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 March 2013, 17:57:16
    Are you sure there's a tenkeyless Storm Trigger? I can't find any information on that. I know theres a CoolerMaster QuickFire TK that has backlighting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Tue, 19 March 2013, 18:00:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 March 2013, 17:57:16
    Are you sure there's a tenkeyless Storm Trigger? I can't find any information on that. I know theres a CoolerMaster QuickFire TK that has backlighting.
    Oops, I did it again.  When I first looked into it, I thought Storm Trigger was the brand itself.  That's what I mean.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 20 March 2013, 09:50:31
    How can I help with the GH60?

    I am an experienced web developer/system admin. So development and interfaces (GUI) are right up my ally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 March 2013, 10:08:41
    Quote from: hellocodes on Wed, 20 March 2013, 09:50:31
    How can I help with the GH60?

    I am an experienced web developer/system admin. So development and interfaces (GUI) are right up my ally.

    PM some of the guys who are working on it. There's beta-testing threads: here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.0) and here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.0). I know for a fact that Ivan and Glissant have had issues with the coding to getting certain things working. Offer to help in those threads and PM the OPs. That's how I got started with projects as well. I just offered to help.


    Quote from: ping111 on Tue, 19 March 2013, 18:00:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 March 2013, 17:57:16
    Are you sure there's a tenkeyless Storm Trigger? I can't find any information on that. I know theres a CoolerMaster QuickFire TK that has backlighting.
    Oops, I did it again.  When I first looked into it, I thought Storm Trigger was the brand itself.  That's what I mean.

    When i get a chance, I'll go look it up. I believe the setup is how you originally described it and the Youtube video probably has a modification. But let me double check.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Wed, 20 March 2013, 20:58:42
    What is the difference between "vintage" and I guess "modern" switches I see vintage reds/blacks. Did they have something different in them? Is it just to say they are older / used?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 20 March 2013, 21:01:04
    I think it's unlikely you'd be able to tell a difference.  The reason vintage switches are used is because they are supposed to be smoother.  I've never read any hard facts except that the stems may be made out of a different plastic that allows them to slide nicer.  I have not been able to tell any difference, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 March 2013, 21:01:42
    They're from old boards (I think like the 80s) and apparently they're smoother than the newer switches. I also heard that vintage blues are WAY smoother than new blues. Akimbo would know, he posted up about that somewhere
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Wed, 20 March 2013, 21:02:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 March 2013, 21:01:42
    They're from old boards (I think like the 80s) and apparently they're smoother than the newer switches. I also heard that vintage blues are WAY smoother than new blues. Akimbo would know, he posted up about that somewhere

    Vintage blacks are incredibly smooth compared to modern blacks I can attest to that. Its kinda crazy how much nicer they feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 20 March 2013, 21:05:10
    Are you sure they aren't just broken-in?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 20 March 2013, 21:44:19
    Thanks! I'm gonna get my hands on a gh60 soon! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 20 March 2013, 21:49:00
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 20 March 2013, 21:05:10
    Are you sure they aren't just broken-in?

    If L4ercake is talking about the switches he got from me, they were off of new never used boards, so break in use is not a factor in his claim.

    I have honestly never typed on new production blacks so I can't say one way or the other about how they feel to me in comparison. All I can say is that Lyercake's switches were never used. I did however put some blue springs in some vintage black switches (making ghetto reds) and they felt slightly smoother to me than my brother-in-law's Leopold with new reds. Just my $0.02. it wasn't a dramatic difference to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Wed, 20 March 2013, 22:03:45
    I'm basing it off putting Red springs into the Vintage Blacks and they have waaaaay less grind on the way depression.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: khaangaaroo on Wed, 20 March 2013, 22:25:42
    Vintage is smoother for sure, especially for linear switches. I made vintage reds and blacks, and they both feel smoother than modern production red/black switches.

    As for vintage blues, the smoothness makes the tactile bump seem smaller to me. It kinda feels close to typing on reds but with a click.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:28:07
    Can you change the spring in switch without desoldering the switch? If so, are there any videos about it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:29:42
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:28:07
    Can you change the spring in switch without desoldering the switch? If so, are there any videos about it?

    WhiteFireDragon's and I believe Beast's plates are setup like this. WFD has some excellent videos on Youtube. Look up his ID there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:38:11
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Mon, 18 March 2013, 21:38:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:47:25
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Mon, 18 March 2013, 17:26:57
    On the KBT Pure, is there anyway to move the arrow cluster on the function layer to where they are on the Poker?

    Unfortunately, no. What you want is called GH60. :P

    I'm soooo not ready for something that custom! Yet!

    Are you ready now? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.0

    :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:39:01
    The answer is absolutely, yes. He is ready jdcarpe :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:00:13
    Has there been or are any future group buys for a set of double shot PBT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:38:21
    I have another question already... where are my answers people!!@!!  :p

    Any idea why the cherry blacks on my Zibal 60 feel smoother than then cherry blacks on my Shine 2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:39:37
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:00:13
    Has there been or are any future group buys for a set of double shot PBT?

    There has not been, but SP has just developed the technique to do it.  According to i3, however, it would be ruinously expensive to do.

    Quote from: Lunartuna on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:38:21
    I have another question already... where are my answers people!!@!!  :p

    Any idea why the cherry blacks on my Zibal 60 feel smoother than then cherry blacks on my Shine 2?

    Vintage vs non-vintage switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:43:39
    Yeah I noticed the new double shot PBT's on techkeys. I wonder how much more it would be? Twice as expensive? I'm sure some here would still go for it haha.


    When were vintage switches made? I bought the Zibal 60 maybe... 2 years ago? The Ducky is brand new.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:44:59
    I would, depending on the color.  Hell, I may price it for the Orangesicle buy I'm getting planned out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:47:34
    Orangesicle? Already interested.. PBT or not !
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:43:13
    Quote from: blueasjim on Sat, 16 March 2013, 11:43:40
    Okay, I have a question, perhaps dumb, I'm not sure.

    But if I were to buying a KBC Poker (for example) and then purchased a case like this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35213.0), would I be able to take the KBC 'guts' out and implant them in this Aluminum case? Is that feesible, or do I have to build an entire board around these types of cases? I just ask because I'm not certain how great I am at piecing together switches and such and if I have to manually make one myself.. ima need to practice. o.O

    Thanks!

    Would this Vortex (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=308) Pure fit into this a case like this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35213.0)??? Or would I have to go with  KBC Poker from here  (http://kbtpure.com/kbtpure/kbc-poker/kbc-poker-60-mechanical-keyboard-ansi-us-international.html)

    I didn't realize that the original KBC Pokers were so hard to get now. So I was curious about this option instead. Sorry for ignorance and thanks for help. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:47:29
    Yes, Poker, Pure have the same dimensions and mounting. Totally interchangeable in the various cases for them. Poker 2 or whatever they are calling it will probably be available in the next couple month also.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:50:10
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:47:29
    Yes, Poker, Pure have the same dimensions and mounting. Totally interchangeable in the various cases for them. Poker 2 or whatever they are calling it will probably be available in the next couple month also.

    Ah okay, thank you. I'll have to look into this Poker 2 to check it out. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:56:50
    Quote from: blueasjim on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:50:10
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:47:29
    Yes, Poker, Pure have the same dimensions and mounting. Totally interchangeable in the various cases for them. Poker 2 or whatever they are calling it will probably be available in the next couple month also.

    Ah okay, thank you. I'll have to look into this Poker 2 to check it out. :D

    bah.... ahh.... welll you know.... GH60 is here !! maybe go with you know, the best keyboard evar... poker 2 can go Suck a D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:18:07
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:56:50
    Quote from: blueasjim on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:50:10
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:47:29
    Yes, Poker, Pure have the same dimensions and mounting. Totally interchangeable in the various cases for them. Poker 2 or whatever they are calling it will probably be available in the next couple month also.

    Ah okay, thank you. I'll have to look into this Poker 2 to check it out. :D

    bah.... ahh.... welll you know.... GH60 is here !! maybe go with you know, the best keyboard evar... poker 2 can go Suck a D
    Heh. Gave me a chuckle there. :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:22:43
    my question....will i ever learn to take off keycaps with stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:53:33
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:22:43
    my question....will i ever learn to take off keycaps with stabilizers?

    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:55:23
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:53:33
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:22:43
    my question....will i ever learn to take off keycaps with stabilizers?

    Yes

    stellar answer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:05:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:55:23
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:53:33
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:22:43
    my question....will i ever learn to take off keycaps with stabilizers?

    Yes

    stellar answer

    It's the truth.  There isn't *much* more to them than normal switches, but if your real question was "Show me how to take off keycaps with stabilizers"...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:40:20
    thank for the vid. i just have heard that a lot of things can go wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Thu, 21 March 2013, 23:49:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:40:20
    thank for the vid. i just have heard that a lot of things can go wrong.

    I didn't even know what to do. I just kind of learned on my own without vids. It's pretty easy. Better to wiggle it I feel instead of jerking the key straight up though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: deazncy on Fri, 22 March 2013, 00:48:27
    Nice kb!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 00:50:11
    Korean Kung Fu method!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 07:55:55
    Quote from: blueasjim on Thu, 21 March 2013, 23:49:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:40:20
    thank for the vid. i just have heard that a lot of things can go wrong.

    I didn't even know what to do. I just kind of learned on my own without vids. It's pretty easy. Better to wiggle it I feel instead of jerking the key straight up though.

    alright. i tried on my pure spacebar for like 3 minutes and it wasn't even with a costar stabilizer. going to try on my DAS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 22 March 2013, 08:14:32
    For Cherry stabilizer, just pull the key straight up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Fri, 22 March 2013, 09:30:30
    what Solder is good to use on keyboards? Not sure if there are types to stay away from...

    on that matter I'm starting to get in to the whole soldering thing, what irons / guns are good in the area?

    What's everyone using?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 09:34:43
    Cam someone help me with what stabilizers to order on the gh60 order thread? I am really confused about what to Get. I am going for a hhkb layout, with either a ANSI 1.5x or ANSI 1.5x Pure shift plate. Not sure what color switches yet. Just really confused about which stabilizers are best to order
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 09:51:30
    Quote from: eRadicatedZomBiE on Fri, 22 March 2013, 09:30:30
    what Solder is good to use on keyboards? Not sure if there are types to stay away from...

    on that matter I'm starting to get in to the whole soldering thing, what irons / guns are good in the area?

    What's everyone using?

    What you want is rosin core solder, either 60/40 or ideally 63/37. Diameter I normally use is .032".

    For a soldering iron, you can get by with a cheap Weller or Radio Shack iron. Get yourself a soldering iron stand with a sponge cleaner.

    For a nice setup, you want something with temperature control. Weller WES51 or WLC100 are both good choices. As is the Hakko FX-888.

    For desoldering, you can use braid or a bulb (or iron with bulb sold at Radio Shack). The Edsyn Soldapullt is a nice spring loaded desoldering tool. The Hakko 808 is a vacuum desoldering iron, but kinda pricey.

    Helping hands and/or a vice are always useful.


    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 09:34:43
    Cam someone help me with what stabilizers to order on the gh60 order thread? I am really confused about what to Get. I am going for a hhkb layout, with either a ANSI 1.5x or ANSI 1.5x Pure shift plate. Not sure what color switches yet. Just really confused about which stabilizers are best to order

    Are you assembling this yourself? Cherry PCB mount stabilizers should probably be listed as the default option. They are the easiest to install, if you are new to DIY. The plates might require some sanding/filing to work well with Costar stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:32:40
    jd i am getting the $40 PCB that is presoldering and paying for assembly..i don't have any soldering experience or equipment. i plan on getting hhkb layout if that makes a difference. i just want the basic stabilizers, as long as they are easy to switch out keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:33:20
    Quote from: ping111 on Tue, 19 March 2013, 18:00:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 March 2013, 17:57:16
    Are you sure there's a tenkeyless Storm Trigger? I can't find any information on that. I know theres a CoolerMaster QuickFire TK that has backlighting.
    Oops, I did it again.  When I first looked into it, I thought Storm Trigger was the brand itself.  That's what I mean.

    Sorry for the late response on the TK boards. If you go to this link (http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10019) it shows that the backlight LED colors match the switches in the board. If you saw different LEDs, then the person probably swapped them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:34:14
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:32:40
    jd i am getting the $40 PCB that is presoldering and paying for assembly..i don't have any soldering experience or equipment. i plan on getting hhkb layout if that makes a difference. i just want the basic stabilizers, as long as they are easy to switch out keycaps.

    Yes, then you should get PCB mount Cherry stabilizers. This goes for anyone else who doesn't know which to order. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:36:52
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 09:51:30
    Are you assembling this yourself? Cherry PCB mount stabilizers should probably be listed as the default option. They are the easiest to install, if you are new to DIY. The plates might require some sanding/filing to work well with Costar stabilizers.

    Can you explain a little more about Costar stabilizers and how they're installed? I prefer Costar stabilizers and GH60 will be my first DIY board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:52:58
    Is there a difference in the feel of Cherry PCB vs Cherry plate mounted stabilizers?

    I have access to costar and cherry plate mount boards but never tried a board with cherry pcb mount stabilizers. Thanks

    Edited to show what I meant to ask. Difference between the two types of Cherry stabs. Thanks jd
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:57:06
    Quote from: whiskytango on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:52:58
    Is there a difference in the feel of cherry PCB vs plate mounted stabilizers?

    I have access to costar and cherry plate mount boards but never tried a board with cherry pcb mount stabilizers. Thanks

    Costars feel crispy to me while Cherry stabilizers can feel a bit mushy. However Costars have the annoying inserts and take a little more time to swap caps out. Cherry stabs you just pop the cap off and put a new cap on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:59:22
    He didn't mention Costar....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:59:44
    Quote from: whiskytango on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:52:58
    Is there a difference in the feel of cherry PCB vs plate mounted stabilizers?

    I have access to costar and cherry plate mount boards but never tried a board with cherry pcb mount stabilizers. Thanks

    I don't think there is a difference in feel between the two types of Cherry stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:00:59
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:59:44
    Quote from: whiskytango on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:52:58
    Is there a difference in the feel of cherry PCB vs plate mounted stabilizers?

    I have access to costar and cherry plate mount boards but never tried a board with cherry pcb mount stabilizers. Thanks

    I don't think there is a difference in feel between the two types of Cherry stabilizers.

    Hooray for mis-reading! -_-
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:06:39
    Thanks. I ask because I'm trying to decide between the universal plates and the ones that accept plate mounted cherry stabs... I have both types of stabs from parting out old wyse boards

    Really I hate changing caps on the costars so much, I'm definitely going with cherry stabs one way or the other. Plus then I won't have to buy any :-)

    Edit: yeah I could have worded that better. I was specifically wondering about Cherry PCB vs Cherry Plate Mount
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:12:16
    Quote from: whiskytango on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:06:39
    Thanks. I ask because I'm trying to decide between the universal plates and the ones that accept plate mounted cherry stabs... I have both types of stabs from parting out old wyse boards

    Really I hate changing caps on the costars so much, I'm definitely going with cherry stabs one way or the other. Plus then I won't have to buy any :-)

    Go with plate mount cherry stabs!

    My question is (lol) why is it so hard to find aluminum Poker cases and why we're so few made?

    Edit - lol don't answer my question
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:33:53
    The best Cherry stabs are the original PCB mount design that bolt on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:55:00
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:33:53
    The best Cherry stabs are the original PCB mount design that bolt on.

    I've never even seen those.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:24:18
    Instead of the pinch pin at one end it's a hollow pin and there's a screw you screw into it once it's on the PCB.  Wyse terminal boards have these on the space bar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:32:59
    Yes, but also the keycap side insert have a different design, which dosen't have the dampener for bottom out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:37:07
    The ones I have do but of a different design... there is a plastic leaf spring protruding from the housing that the stem lands on.

    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:37:08
    Yeah, they need to bring those back. I've only ever seen them on those WYSE terminal boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:39:38
    The ones I have didn't. They came from a PCB mount board DEC type layout copy from 1985 I got for like $8 that was broken. I used them on my GH60. Also on my Commodore and Amiga they have these type. Both of those are old too, made in 1985 and 1987.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:41:28
    I purchased a new stab set that is very similar to what I have off the Wyse, however the key stem is only 2mm long... very odd.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:58:35
    Can i map any key to any position on the GH60? i want this layout

    (http://i.imgur.com/ct2OnR8.png)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:01:15
    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:05:20
    Gosh, I'd love if we could dye sub onto darker keys. Green on black... so nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:07:29
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:05:20
    Gosh, I'd love if we could dye sub onto darker keys. Green on black... so nice.

    I'd be happy with black on very dark gray :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:22:38
    Like the RF's? Meh, IMO.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:24:11
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:22:38
    Like the RF's? Meh, IMO.

    No, that's already been done and those are way too light! More like HHKB and at least it's doable  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:25:14
    This is true. I'd prefer secondary legends dye subbed on like that. That would be cool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:26:16
    rf's very dark grey is a very pleasant color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:28:00
    Quote from: iri on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:26:16
    rf's very dark grey is a very pleasant color.

    Yes!I neeeeeeeeeeeed those in Thick PBT :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:30:46
    I will do those in PBT buy #3 if no one takes it first.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Fri, 22 March 2013, 16:50:03
    Rosewill RK9001BR - Mac compatible?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 22 March 2013, 16:51:25
    Yep. I think it's 100% compatible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 23 March 2013, 10:39:04
    I couldn't find this in the Originative vendor forum, and it's too small of a question to make a whole thread on...soooo....

    Who is the manufacturer for the upcoming Dolch sets? Is it SP or GMK or ...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 23 March 2013, 10:46:01
    Don't worry. They might add them to that store you can't buy from eventually and you can look at the nice picture.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Sat, 23 March 2013, 10:51:44
    hahaha. this is how i feel about elitekeyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Sat, 23 March 2013, 17:23:52
    I'm just gonna bounce Mac compatibility questions offa you guys:

    Max Durandal G1NL?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:13:26
    Quote from: ping111 on Sat, 23 March 2013, 17:23:52
    I'm just gonna bounce Mac compatibility questions offa you guys:

    Max Durandal G1NL?

    According to this link (http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-keyboard-durandal-g1nl-red-backlit-mechanical-keyboard.html), it is not compatible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:18:55
    what's the point of switch stickers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:24:19
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:18:55
    what's the point of switch stickers?

    The claim is that the switches are slightly wobbly when installed onto the plate and the switch stickers eliminate the stickers. But the common consensus seems to be that the stickers don't really do much besides look cool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:33:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:24:19
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:18:55
    what's the point of switch stickers?

    The claim is that the switches are slightly wobbly when installed onto the plate and the switch stickers eliminate the stickers. But the common consensus seems to be that the stickers don't really do much besides look cool.

    how are they applied?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:35:13
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:33:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:24:19
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:18:55
    what's the point of switch stickers?

    The claim is that the switches are slightly wobbly when installed onto the plate and the switch stickers eliminate the stickers. But the common consensus seems to be that the stickers don't really do much besides look cool.

    how are they applied?

    Open top of switch, apply the sticker to the switch bottom and put the top back on
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:15:01
    For me, when I put on red oring switch dampeners. It also really helped with switch wobble when holding down. That's one thing that bugged me when holding shift to run in a game. I really noticed wobble. Red oring helped a ton.

    Sorry cornfield bad writing. Doing this from my phone.


    Edit: ROFL autocorrect! Cornfield = for the
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:19:55
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:35:13
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:33:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:24:19
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:18:55
    what's the point of switch stickers?

    The claim is that the switches are slightly wobbly when installed onto the plate and the switch stickers eliminate the stickers. But the common consensus seems to be that the stickers don't really do much besides look cool.

    how are they applied?

    Open top of switch, apply the sticker to the switch bottom and put the top back on

    wait is it even visible then?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:28:29
    Dubsgalore, check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40244.0) for some pics and vids
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jincuteguy on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:30:47
    Does anyone know if those Das keyboards use the Cherry or CoStar stabilizers for the Space bar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:32:40
    Which Das keyboard are you speaking of? Maybe a picture? There are different versions which use different stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:36:45
    Das I was a dome board, Das II was a Cherry stabilized board, and the Das III is a Costar Stablized board. The Das II internals can be swapped with a G80-3000 (winkey) internals.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:38:27
    I suppose I could've said that, huh? Does the latest Das have Costar stabs as well?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:39:18
    Also, how do you fix a sticking buckling spring? The Enter on my numpad will stay down unless I press it a very particular way (I have to press the very front of it; not on top, but the front side).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:44:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:28:29
    Dubsgalore, check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40244.0) for some pics and vids

    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:53:06
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:38:27
    I suppose I could've said that, huh? Does the latest Das have Costar stabs as well?
    I think it does, Hyde was on the quality checking of the latest model last I heard. Perhaps PM him?
    Also, most buckling spring problems are fixed by reseating the keycap. If not, a picture may help. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 14:00:25
    Not really.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 14:18:14
    Does anyone have a picture of a BMX Clack?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jincuteguy on Mon, 25 March 2013, 14:28:39
    Quote from: SmallFry on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:36:45
    Das I was a dome board, Das II was a Cherry stabilized board, and the Das III is a Costar Stablized board. The Das II internals can be swapped with a G80-3000 (winkey) internals.

    Where do you see DAs II and III? I went to their website and all I saw was the Clicky and the Silent version!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jincuteguy on Mon, 25 March 2013, 14:52:44
    Also, does anyone know where I can get custom keycap for backlit keyboard? Like the LED underneath the keycap will shine through?
    I looked at WASD website for keycaps, but I couldn't find any information, all i saw was the option for either Laser Etched or Engraved? any help would be appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 14:55:44
    Please don't doublepost, just edit your old posts. You might be able to snag a set of Ducky's caps or I think you c an get transluscent caps from SignaturePlastics.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jincuteguy on Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:05:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 14:55:44
    Please don't doublepost, just edit your old posts. You might be able to snag a set of Ducky's caps or I think you c an get transluscent caps from SignaturePlastics.

    Yea I don't want to get those transluscent caps, I just want whatever the legend ie. letter or picture on the keycap get shined through.  So I guess Ducky is the only company that made these.  I thought WASD is the best when it comes to keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:18:07
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:26:11
    Quote from: jincuteguy on Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:05:32
    I thought WASD is the best when it comes to keycaps.

    There's no "best" when it comes to buying keycaps. It is very dependent on what you're looking for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:48:17
    Realforce keyboards have a dip switch setting to enable firmware update, has anyone done that ? If so where is the driver or flash come from Topre?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:52:10
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: scumyc on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:04:59
    quick noob question: were vintage blacks made for plate mount, pcb mount (with the little plastic legs), or both?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:05:51
    They are mainly plate, they came from WYSE terminal keyboards. Welcome to Geekhack, by the way. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:29:05
    Who on this forum has done bolt modding for others?  (I got a Model M board before the forum crashed and now I cannot check via PMs etc. to find out who I dealt with :D)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:30:25
    Fohat.Digs has done them before, I was going to, but have not done so yet. So many rivets for so few that are broken. I know that dfj has also done them, though you'd have to hit him up on the IRC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:31:23
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:36:21
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:31:23
    And another question: how do you know when a Model M needs a bolt mod? And what does a floss mod do?

    Here's a link on the Floss Mod (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Dental_floss_mod).

    And here are some links for the Bolt Mods:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:38:52
    Moose, bolt mods are only to replace the rivets once they've broken off from being brittle. There's also layout changes that you can do, but people don't typically mod to ANSI from ISO or vice versa since both flavors can be had in rather abundant sources.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 25 March 2013, 18:08:34
    What's the size of a TKL board in percent? Is it 80%?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:19:47
    (http://i.imgur.com/z2OsqAK.png)

    From IRC. SmallFry determined TKL should be 84%; although I'm sure 80% would work just as well. Math is sexy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:49:35
    Well then a poker is a 58%

    So should we rename it the GHsomewherebetween57%and62%
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:51:38
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:49:35
    Well then a poker is a 58%

    So should we rename it the GHsomewherebetween57%and62%


    59% You need to round 58.65 up :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:55:20
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:18:07
    Quote from: jincuteguy on Mon, 25 March 2013, 14:28:39
    Quote from: SmallFry on Mon, 25 March 2013, 13:36:45
    Das I was a dome board, Das II was a Cherry stabilized board, and the Das III is a Costar Stablized board. The Das II internals can be swapped with a G80-3000 (winkey) internals.

    Where do you see DAs II and III? I went to their website and all I saw was the Clicky and the Silent version!
    They're older versions. The current one is either considered the 3rd revision, or 4th, depending on who you ask. It looks the same, but is made by a different company and has some differences, the most notable being the media keys. Here you can see revs 1, 2, and 3.

    (Attachment Link)
    wow rev 1 looks like IBM case, did Unicomp made that case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:56:54
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:51:38
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:49:35
    Well then a poker is a 58%

    So should we rename it the GHsomewherebetween57%and62%


    59% You need to round 58.65 up :)

    Well suck it :P


    :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:59:14
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:51:38
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:49:35
    Well then a poker is a 58%

    So should we rename it the GHsomewherebetween57%and62%


    59% You need to round 58.65 up :)

    Except the GHwhateversizeitis would have a different number depending on what layout you choose.  The one I'm going with, for example is 57.69230769230769230(it keeps going)%.  Going by number of keys on the board is stupid.

    In fact, tkl would be two sizes based on that (at minimum), too because of winkey vs winkeyless.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:05:02
    I'm making the executive decision and calling TKL boards 80%. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:07:18
    No, I outrank you as King.

    I demand sacrifice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:13:08
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:07:18
    No, I outrank you as King.

    I demand sacrifice.

    King of purple stepping in on this matter

    TKL stays TKL
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:19:19
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:13:08
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:07:18
    No, I outrank you as King.

    I demand sacrifice.

    King of purple stepping in on this matter

    TKL stays TKL

    I conferred with my queen, Scarlett Johansen eating popcorn, and I agree with my fellow King.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:20:42
    I thought jdcarpe was King of Purple @.@
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:24:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:05:02
    I'm making the executive decision and calling TKL boards 80%. :P

    Screenshotted as proof if I decide to call my case something including 80.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Novus on Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:05:46
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:19:19
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:13:08
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:07:18
    No, I outrank you as King.

    I demand sacrifice.

    King of purple stepping in on this matter

    TKL stays TKL

    I conferred with my queen, Scarlett Johansen eating popcorn, and I agree with my fellow King.

    Scarlett Johansson > Scarlett Johansen
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:07:21
    Quote from: the1onewolf on Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:05:46
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:19:19
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:13:08
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:07:18
    No, I outrank you as King.

    I demand sacrifice.

    King of purple stepping in on this matter

    TKL stays TKL

    I conferred with my queen, Scarlett Johansen eating popcorn, and I agree with my fellow King.

    Scarlett Johansson > Scarlett Johansen


    That's where I'm afraid that you're completely correct.

    I knew I should have googled it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:45:48
    I decree that all purple TKL keyboards be deemed 80%.

    Further, that purple GH60s of any layout configuration are considered 60%.

    As it is written, so shall it be.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jincuteguy on Tue, 26 March 2013, 02:14:08
    I'm looking at the Max Nighthawk X8 and X9 keyboards.  Does anyone know if these have CoStar stabilizers or Cherry?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Novus on Tue, 26 March 2013, 02:22:46
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:45:48
    I decree that all purple TKL keyboards be deemed 80%.

    Further, that purple GH60s of any layout configuration are considered 60%.

    As it is written, so shall it be.

    I see your spock avatar.
    IDIC
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:01:00
    Are there any cons of using a backlit keyboard? Haven't really found anything about it but I know that I read somewhere that it could make it harder to change the switch if you would want to or something similar. I'm close to pull the trigger on a KBT Pure with browns, with or without blue backlight. This will be my first mech (or my second if you count the Model M) btw.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:01:32
    How long does it generally take for laser etched legends on Cherry caps to start wearing off? I feel bad for typing on them knowing that they're in nice shape and one of the rarer(?) sets I have...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:03:35
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:01:00
    Are there any cons of using a backlit keyboard? Haven't really found anything about it but I know that I read somewhere that it could make it harder to change the switch if you would want to or something similar. I'm close to pull the trigger on a KBT Pure with browns, with or without blue backlight. This will be my first mech (or my second if you count the Model M) btw.
    Almost all backlit boards I've seen have been plate mounted, so swapping switches is a bit rough in and of itself, requiring desoldering of the switch to do so (unless you have installed a custom plate that makes it easier to swap the switches, and even then, you would have had to desolder at least once). LEDs generally have to be desoldered to be able to remove the switch, but you can modify the top of the housing to be able to remove the switch around the LED.

    Also, just read more of your post. A Pure would require you to desolder all of the LEDs to swap the stems and springs out, or you would have to mod the housings. It's not that hard to do. Just a couple clips with something, or a Dremel, as someone else suggested.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:58:53
    Quote from: jincuteguy on Tue, 26 March 2013, 02:14:08
    I'm looking at the Max Nighthawk X8 and X9 keyboards.  Does anyone know if these have CoStar stabilizers or Cherry?

    According to this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32999.0), they use Costar stabilizers.

    If you look on Youtube for a review, maybe you can find a video of someone pulling the caps off so you can see em. Just to double check.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 26 March 2013, 09:42:36
    All iOne made keyboard use costar like stabilizer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 26 March 2013, 10:37:05
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:01:32
    How long does it generally take for laser etched legends on Cherry caps to start wearing off? I feel bad for typing on them knowing that they're in nice shape and one of the rarer(?) sets I have...
    Laser etched POM to be exact.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Tue, 26 March 2013, 11:05:11
    irrelevant answer was here
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Skull_Angel on Tue, 26 March 2013, 16:49:11
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 26 March 2013, 10:37:05
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:01:32
    How long does it generally take for laser etched legends on Cherry caps to start wearing off? I feel bad for typing on them knowing that they're in nice shape and one of the rarer(?) sets I have...
    Laser etched POM to be exact.

    I've had some laser etched letters on POM keycaps start fading after a couple of months with heavy use. My fingers don't normally put out a lot of oils, but can during heated gaming; I do practice good keyboard hygiene most of the time though, so not a sloppy person. They just don't last well with heavy use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 26 March 2013, 16:50:32
    I figured as much. Did you notice much wear on the caps themselves, aside from the legends?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Skull_Angel on Tue, 26 March 2013, 16:59:51
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 26 March 2013, 16:50:32
    I figured as much. Did you notice much wear on the caps themselves, aside from the legends?

    Nope, the material (POM) is solid, not a hint of wear; they should also take much longer to (completely) shine than standard ABS (most POM normally have a bit more base shine than ABS that I'm aware of).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 26 March 2013, 17:02:17
    Yes, this is my second set of POM caps, and I do notice the base shine, as you mention. Perhaps I'll swap them out with some Cherry DS. Or maybe I should just type on them, being that I enjoy looking at them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Wed, 27 March 2013, 13:55:42
    Is it true that on a keyboard with PCB mounted switches you change from Blue switches to Brown by just swapping out the stems and springs?  (no soldering)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 13:56:45
    Yes sir. You can take a look at my thread, Moose's Mods, to see me doing just that. You can also do the same thing with plate mounted boards that have specialized switch openings to allow it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 March 2013, 13:57:21
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 13:56:45
    Yes sir. You can take a look at my thread, Moose's Mods, to see me doing just that. You can also do the same thing with plate mounted boards that have specialized switch openings to allow it.

    Can you provide a link?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:05:32
    ^^ yeah what he said :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:54:16
    I mean, I'll provide a link, but I gave you the exact title, and it took me exactly what it would've taken you to find it...: type that shiz into the search bar.

    But here you go: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41162
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:59:12
    My bad Moose, I was in a meeting before. Couldn't really search.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:03:00
    No problem. I dropped a link to it in my signature now as well, so it's easier for ME to get to it... So now I can just point people to my signature (which by the way is getting pretty big... oh well, still meets the requirements!).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:28:14
    very cool - thanks.  Where did you get that key pulling tool? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:30:07
    Those are from The_Beast.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:30:17
    They were offered by The_Beast when he first sold the custom Poker plates. They sold out very quickly. He has talked about possibly offering more, possibly in conjunction with a lube station.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 28 March 2013, 07:34:32
    Do switches have to be installed from the bottom of a plate or is it possible to push them in from the top?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 March 2013, 08:26:36
    You have to push them into the top of the plate. That's why you can't remove the plate without desoldering all the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Thu, 28 March 2013, 15:19:38
    I mixed up my terms - I have a plate mounted board not PCB ( it is a QFR) so I would need to desolder the switches.  I can't just swap springs and stems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 28 March 2013, 19:27:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 March 2013, 08:26:36
    You have to push them into the top of the plate. That's why you can't remove the plate without desoldering all the switches.
    So you insert the stem down from the top? Sorry, just want to make sure I understand so I can do it right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 28 March 2013, 19:28:07
    are there any pbt sets fully compatible with leopolds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 March 2013, 19:42:51
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 28 March 2013, 19:27:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 March 2013, 08:26:36
    You have to push them into the top of the plate. That's why you can't remove the plate without desoldering all the switches.
    So you insert the stem down from the top? Sorry, just want to make sure I understand so I can do it right.

    A picture is worth 1000 words...

    (http://i.imgur.com/jCJ9pNP.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 28 March 2013, 19:54:36
    Indeed! Looks like the time is nearing to slice at my Phantom's case. Thanks, jd.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Fri, 29 March 2013, 01:08:34
    Is there any custom keyboard controllers for the QFR similar to a teensy available or in the works?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 29 March 2013, 01:09:55
    IIRC, Biphany was going to work on one after the Full Filco controller, but I don't know for sure, ping him to be sure. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 29 March 2013, 01:10:13
    I think there's one in the works from bpiphany

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39146.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 29 March 2013, 01:11:12
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 29 March 2013, 01:10:13
    I think there's one in the works from bpiphany

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39146.0
    Beat ya to it. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 01 April 2013, 14:03:00
    I have a Ducky YotD and I'm thinking about a changing the led's color. Are most keyboards the same forward voltage? I would like to swap with another keyboard brand, because of it nice color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 April 2013, 14:13:48
    Quote from: MJ45 on Mon, 01 April 2013, 14:03:00
    I have a Ducky YotD and I'm thinking about a changing the led's color. Are most keyboards the same forward voltage? I would like to swap with another keyboard brand, because of it nice color.

    You want to swap the LED or you want to swap the badging/labeling on the case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 01 April 2013, 17:45:29
    Most LED fV depend on the color, and generally range from 1.8 to 3.4. If sticking with the same color family you are probably going to be ok like blue to green, but blue to red for example can require some extra resistors and such unless you really hunt hard for some red with a high fV which are out there but can be difficult to source. Using colored lens is one of easier ways to avoid the fV issue as they are usually in the same 3-3.4 range regardless of lens color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Mon, 01 April 2013, 17:53:19
    .........................
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 April 2013, 17:56:31
    I believe that whatever you program into your KMAC should be saved into the board's firmware so it should be the same on every computer until you decide to change it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 01 April 2013, 19:22:42
    Yes,  obviously
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:40:06
    Stupid question incoming:

    I know that Matias switches should be sold on their site but I really cannot find them. Are they out of stock or are they buried somewhere on the site?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Mon, 01 April 2013, 23:51:03
    Here's one for you guys;

    I want to get a Matias mini tactile pro from their website, then use the key caps from my Ducky 1087 to make it a "Windows" keyboard. Any problems with this?? (like different stabilizers or something. maybe certain keys won't fit? it looks like they will all fit to me, from a quick glance...)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Tue, 02 April 2013, 00:03:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:40:06
    Stupid question incoming:

    I know that Matias switches should be sold on their site but I really cannot find them. Are they out of stock or are they buried somewhere on the site?
    removed from the site
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Tue, 02 April 2013, 00:22:44
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 01 April 2013, 17:45:29
    Most LED fV depend on the color, and generally range from 1.8 to 3.4. If sticking with the same color family you are probably going to be ok like blue to green, but blue to red for example can require some extra resistors and such unless you really hunt hard for some red with a high fV which are out there but can be difficult to source. Using colored lens is one of easier ways to avoid the fV issue as they are usually in the same 3-3.4 range regardless of lens color.

    Thanks for the info, I didn't know the fV differs with color family's. After my post I opened the case and measured it with a DVM and it was 1.238v hi brightness to 0.832v low. My Ducky Yotd has purple (but look more like pink) I like blue better but the one tried for a test it was 3.6fV and too dim even on hi level setting. I'll have to rethink the change to similar color or reconsider the change.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 02 April 2013, 14:46:31
    What program do you guys use to do keycap prototypes for IC's to show legend font/size and colors?

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Tue, 02 April 2013, 14:55:28
    Where do you get those tiny, pixelly keyboards in some people's sigs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 02 April 2013, 15:07:36
    ^ I second that one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Tue, 02 April 2013, 15:09:55
    Keyboard Pixel Art
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 April 2013, 21:12:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 02 April 2013, 14:46:31
    What program do you guys use to do keycap prototypes for IC's to show legend font/size and colors?

    Melvang

    Not sure how people do fonts. I think batman (sp?) does a lot of renders? I know karporkle has done renders for the Raindrop and Phantom Sticker GB. But try matt30's color scheme tool (http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#GFW,WA,GFW,WA) out.


    And I have a question. Does the ergodox have a plate? Do they accept pcb or plate mounted switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 02 April 2013, 21:20:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 April 2013, 21:12:25
    And I have a question. Does the ergodox have a plate? Do they accept pcb or plate mounted switches?

    Yes, an acrylic one. And yes, both. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Tue, 02 April 2013, 23:52:27
    Does anyone have a link to Signature plastic's ABS color samples? I'm in need of their various gray colors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 03 April 2013, 00:01:13
    http://www.keycapsdirect.com/abscolors.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Wed, 03 April 2013, 03:49:12
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 03 April 2013, 00:01:13
    http://www.keycapsdirect.com/abscolors.php

    You are awesome! thanks!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 03 April 2013, 22:35:58
    Why is it called "ergodox" if Dox didn't design it?  Says on the board that bpiphany designed it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Wed, 03 April 2013, 22:41:44
    Quote
    The ErgoDox is a DIY keyboard project initiated by the user Dox...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Wed, 03 April 2013, 22:43:24
    Is bpiphany PrinsValium?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 April 2013, 22:52:59
    Quote from: F u r u y á on Wed, 03 April 2013, 22:43:24
    Is bpiphany PrinsValium?

    Yes. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Capitalistix on Wed, 03 April 2013, 23:05:25
    Wow wish I'd seen this thread before! Hahaha.

    Does anyone know where I could get one of the US flag caps in this picture? (The blue one that looks like the starfield)

    (http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s594/capitalistix/lDfTBBS_zps95dcc550.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Wed, 03 April 2013, 23:08:57
    Quote from: Capitalistix on Wed, 03 April 2013, 23:05:25
    Wow wish I'd seen this thread before! Hahaha.

    Does anyone know where I could get one of the US flag caps in this picture? (The blue one that looks like the starfield)

    Show Image
    (http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s594/capitalistix/lDfTBBS_zps95dcc550.jpg)


    I got a red one same as that from SP crap bags. Would be neat to know if they were made for something or just an experiment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 03 April 2013, 23:18:01
    Quote from: Capitalistix on Wed, 03 April 2013, 23:05:25
    Wow wish I'd seen this thread before! Hahaha.

    Does anyone know where I could get one of the US flag caps in this picture? (The blue one that looks like the starfield)

    Isn't that photo from someone's f/s thread? I feel like they may still have that cap and I searched for the thread, but was unable to find it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Capitalistix on Thu, 04 April 2013, 00:02:46
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 03 April 2013, 23:18:01
    Quote from: Capitalistix on Wed, 03 April 2013, 23:05:25
    Wow wish I'd seen this thread before! Hahaha.

    Does anyone know where I could get one of the US flag caps in this picture? (The blue one that looks like the starfield)

    Isn't that photo from someone's f/s thread? I feel like they may still have that cap and I searched for the thread, but was unable to find it.

    I appreciate that Jocelyn! It was actually from GupGup'd thread, and he has since sold it ;/

    Do they still offer these "crap bags"? I find it strange that the Hammer and Sickle are readily available from sites and yet Old Glory gets the crap bag only >:{ lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Thu, 04 April 2013, 00:33:29
    does anyone know what type of LEDs I should be buying for my QFR? I want to get a less bright or less harsh color. Maybe Amber or blue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 05:55:02
    how many leds does the qfr have? will desoldering / soldering back the switches for a mod be pain in the arse?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Thu, 04 April 2013, 05:58:42
    3 LEDs.

    I enjoyed desoldering/soldering on my QFR. Make sure you set aside 5-6 hours if its your first time doing something like this. You will be slow, and it's better you take your time on it anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:03:23
    hmmm, i can desolder a 104 in an hour or so. qfr is a tkl board, isn't it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:13:52
    Quote from: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:03:23
    hmmm, i can desolder a 104 in an hour or so. qfr is a tkl board, isn't it?

    Yes, the QFR is a TKL board.


    Quote from: Capitalistix on Thu, 04 April 2013, 00:02:46

    I appreciate that Jocelyn! It was actually from GupGup'd thread, and he has since sold it ;/

    Do they still offer these "crap bags"? I find it strange that the Hammer and Sickle are readily available from sites and yet Old Glory gets the crap bag only >:{ lol

    Crap bags from Signature Plastics seem to only be sold at year's end. They don't all contain the same caps; it's a random selection. Even if you got the crap bag, you might not get the Starfield cap. And that cap might've been a prototype or a one-off and someone decided they weren't happy with it for whatever reason. Those multiple tiny stars might be really hard to mold whereas the hammer and sickle might be easier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: omgFiRE on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:18:07
    Quote from: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:03:23
    hmmm, i can desolder a 104 in an hour or so. qfr is a tkl board, isn't it?
    Try heat gun, it should help clear pcb of switches in few minutes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:35:27
    Quote from: omgFiRE on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:18:07
    Quote from: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:03:23
    hmmm, i can desolder a 104 in an hour or so. qfr is a tkl board, isn't it?
    Try heat gun, it should help clear pcb of switches in few minutes.

    Terrible advice, unless you'd rather have melted switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: omgFiRE on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:43:08
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:35:27
    Terrible advice, unless you'd rather have melted switches.

    Of course, it is only applicable, if you don't care about old switches, and you value your time.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:48:30
    Heat guns are meant for melting solder paste,  not desoldering normal solder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 07:42:48
    Quote from: omgFiRE on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:18:07
    Quote from: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:03:23
    hmmm, i can desolder a 104 in an hour or so. qfr is a tkl board, isn't it?
    Try heat gun, it should help clear pcb of switches in few minutes.
    may a welder be even faster?

    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:35:27
    Quote from: omgFiRE on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:18:07
    Quote from: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:03:23
    hmmm, i can desolder a 104 in an hour or so. qfr is a tkl board, isn't it?
    Try heat gun, it should help clear pcb of switches in few minutes.
    Terrible advice, unless you'd rather have melted switches.
    do you use the same desoldering iron tip to desolder bigger and smaller joints? i found that my desoldering iron removes bigger joints very effectively, but isn't that good on smaller ones; sometimes applying wick is required. or is there a technique to desolder all sizes of joints with the same tip?

    also -- do you plan to upload your lubing videos? i really look forward to know why proper lubing takes 1.5 hours.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 April 2013, 07:45:33
    Rofl iri. You're right, a welder is sure to speed the process up   ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 04 April 2013, 08:04:30
    Ha. Yes it will be great if you only want to disassemble and not use anything at all afterwards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 08:15:12
    sure. who needs those damn switches and pcb's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 08:32:14
    I recently desoldered a complete 101-key board in only 15 minutes. Oh yeah, forgot to mention I was using my Hakko 808 desoldering gun.

    I use the same tip for all solder joints. I usually have to add solder to smaller joints, such as LEDs, etc., to remove the solder effectively. I have never been able to use braid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 09:42:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 08:32:14
    I recently desoldered a complete 101-key board in only 15 minutes. Oh yeah, forgot to mention I was using my Hakko 808 desoldering gun.
    uh huh. i can buy a $170 desoldering station any day.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 04 April 2013, 09:50:03
    I have been using the radio shack desoldering gun working so far for me just a novice on it.  the mistakes i have made with it was all operator error not equipment malfunction.  Speaking of which any suggestions on cleaning it if it needs it??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Thu, 04 April 2013, 09:51:48
    use a wire brush, luke.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 April 2013, 09:53:44
    When the tip gets dirty while you're soldering, you can also try wiping on a sponge that's wetted with water.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:21:12
    Also, buy out Radio Shack of all the replacement tips they have. Before I got my Hakko, I would do this every time I went into Radio Shack. The tips wear out after about a keyboard-and-a-half, even with cleaning. I have some that have a hole worn through the side of the tip.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:22:27
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:21:12
    Also, buy out Radio Shack of all the replacement tips they have. Before I got my Hakko, I would do this every time I went into Radio Shack. The tips wear out after about a keyboard-and-a-half, even with cleaning. I have some that have a hole worn through the side of the tip.

    Then you're getting cheap tips. I've soldered at least 3 pokers and haven't replaced a tip and this was a soldering iron in a lab, so I'm sure I wasn't the only one using it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:26:19
    Quote from: The_Beast on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:22:27
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:21:12
    Also, buy out Radio Shack of all the replacement tips they have. Before I got my Hakko, I would do this every time I went into Radio Shack. The tips wear out after about a keyboard-and-a-half, even with cleaning. I have some that have a hole worn through the side of the tip.

    Then you're getting cheap tips. I've soldered at least 3 pokers and haven't replaced a tip and this was a soldering iron in a lab, so I'm sure I wasn't the only one using it

    You were using the Radio Shack iron with bulb? There is only one option for tips for those...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:29:02
    The Radioshack desolder tips suck, they are made out of poor brass alloy and get all melted and deformed by the hot solder. Especially old lead free solder, will destroy them really fast.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:29:28
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:26:19
    Quote from: The_Beast on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:22:27
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:21:12
    Also, buy out Radio Shack of all the replacement tips they have. Before I got my Hakko, I would do this every time I went into Radio Shack. The tips wear out after about a keyboard-and-a-half, even with cleaning. I have some that have a hole worn through the side of the tip.

    Then you're getting cheap tips. I've soldered at least 3 pokers and haven't replaced a tip and this was a soldering iron in a lab, so I'm sure I wasn't the only one using it

    You were using the Radio Shack iron with bulb? There is only one option for tips for those...

    Nope, a decentish Weller. It's the station with coiled iron holder, the sponge underneath and a temp dial
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: boost on Thu, 04 April 2013, 10:32:02
    Need the standoff height on the poker case. This is where the PCB screws into th case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:11:08
    Anyone know where you can buy MX Whites or what the Chinese word is for them (I know they call them Milks) so I can find them on Taobao?  I'm thinking of getting the GH60 and putting whites on it.

    Also, any recommendations on dremel tips for modding a plate so that the Cherry housing can be removed without desoldering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:16:09
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:11:08
    Anyone know where you can buy MX Whites or what the Chinese word is for them (I know they call them Milks) so I can find them on Taobao?  I'm thinking of getting the GH60 and putting whites on it.

    I've searched high and low on Taobao, and have not found any MX White (Milk) Switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:27:04
    Mx whites were on QWERkeys...not sure if they still are
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:36:17
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:27:04
    Mx whites were on QWERkeys...not sure if they still are

    Just checked and they are, but it would be obscenely expensive.  It would be cheaper to buy a Pure with whites from MechanicalKeyboards.com and harvest the switches from that than to buy the switches from Qwerkeys.  I'd almost rather just go with some cheap used Clears again, buy some used Blues and experiment with ways of muffling the click, or toss my Clear springs in Reds and use those.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:42:12
    Best source for switches is through 7bit, but you might have to wait awhile for certain types.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:46:30
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:42:12
    Best source for switches is through 7bit, but you might have to wait awhile for certain types.

    Is he on here too or just DT? And the GH60 is still a little while out, so waiting a little while shouldn't be too much of an issue unless we're talking 6 months to a year.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:47:16
    They have an account here, but I am not sure if they visit here as often. I think they are working on supplying switches along with the GH60 pcbs and such also.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Thu, 04 April 2013, 16:31:12
    Can anyone link to a photo or diagram of a Poker and a Pure keyboard side by side to show the difference in key layout?  (Single picture)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 April 2013, 16:36:09
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:36:17
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 04 April 2013, 14:27:04
    Mx whites were on QWERkeys...not sure if they still are

    Just checked and they are, but it would be obscenely expensive.  It would be cheaper to buy a Pure with whites from MechanicalKeyboards.com and harvest the switches from that than to buy the switches from Qwerkeys.  I'd almost rather just go with some cheap used Clears again, buy some used Blues and experiment with ways of muffling the click, or toss my Clear springs in Reds and use those.

    Are you sure the Pure has whites? They said that the new Ducky had whites and it was a mistranslation. The switches turned out to be clears. They said the same might happen with the Pures and were waiting on the shipment to verify.


    Quote from: mushupork on Thu, 04 April 2013, 16:31:12
    Can anyone link to a photo or diagram of a Poker and a Pure keyboard side by side to show the difference in key layout?  (Single picture)

    I'm at work so I can't make a single picture for you but try these links:

    Pure (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_110_PURE_unlit.jpg)
    Poker (http://i.imgur.com/70ZuA.jpg)

    Pure has a shoft right shift and I think Smallfry said the top row of keys had a weird profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 04 April 2013, 16:38:09
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 16:38:21
    Only difference between Poker and Pure is the right shift / tilde key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 04 April 2013, 16:59:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 April 2013, 16:36:09
    Are you sure the Pure has whites? They said that the new Ducky had whites and it was a mistranslation. The switches turned out to be clears. They said the same might happen with the Pures and were waiting on the shipment to verify.

    Nope, I'm not sure.  I know the whole Clear/White thing makes for fun with Chinese orders.  I'd love some Whites, but I really don't want to spend more than $50, $60 on the high end, for them for the GH60.  If I can't find them, I'll just toss my Clear springs in the Reds I have and toss them on the GH60.  That will be free.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Binge on Thu, 04 April 2013, 17:02:37
    Why is it Alps keyboards feel better to type on when they're in your lap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Thu, 04 April 2013, 17:50:26
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Thu, 04 April 2013, 00:33:29
    does anyone know what type of LEDs I should be buying for my QFR? I want to get a less bright or less harsh color. Maybe Amber or blue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 04 April 2013, 17:58:41
    I like these (http://www.kingbrightusa.com/category.asp?catalog_name=LED&category_name=KCCylindrical-3mm+%28T1%29&Page=1) personally for LED. The 'blue lagoon' color is pretty nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:16:54
    Thanks anonemoose!  I thought there was more difference.  Maybe in the function layers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:22:21
    Quote from: mushupork on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:16:54
    Thanks anonemoose!  I thought there was more difference.  Maybe in the function layers?

    Yes, the function layers are different. But the only difference in physical layout is what moose pictured. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 April 2013, 21:19:56
    Quote from: Binge on Thu, 04 April 2013, 17:02:37
    Why is it Alps keyboards feel better to type on when they're in your lap?

    Binge, what you like to do in your lap is not really anyone's business on GH but your own :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Permeability on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:21:08
    What keyboards allow you modify the switches without desoldering? (Besides the Poker)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:23:08
    Quote from: Permeability on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:21:08
    What keyboards allow you modify the switches without desoldering? (Besides the Poker)

    I believe that it depends on the plate in the keyboard. I'm not sure a stock poker allows you to mod the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:23:20
    Quote from: Permeability on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:21:08
    What keyboards allow you modify the switches without desoldering? (Besides the Poker)

    Most cherry boards are PCB mount
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:23:33
    Anything that doesn't have a plate or LEDs. Sorry for not having a list :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:24:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:23:08
    Quote from: Permeability on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:21:08
    What keyboards allow you modify the switches without desoldering? (Besides the Poker)

    I believe that it depends on the plate in the keyboard. I'm not sure a stock poker allows you to mod the switches.

    It does except for the 7 keys that have LEDs

    Caps, ~, spacebar, Rwin, menu, Rctrl, Rshift
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:35:56
    You can change switch internals easily on
    PCB mount:
    Vortex Poker, Pure, Race
    Cherry G80-XXXX
    Plum 96, Neo Zelia

    Kit boards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:39:54
    I'm lazy and on my phone. So I'm just going to quickly ask. Looks like the plate with ergodox is capable of switch swapping. True or false.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:52:13
    Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:39:54
    I'm lazy and on my phone. So I'm just going to quickly ask. Looks like the plate with ergodox is capable of switch swapping. True or false.
    true.. says so on the massdrop page
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:21:33
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:52:13
    Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:39:54
    I'm lazy and on my phone. So I'm just going to quickly ask. Looks like the plate with ergodox is capable of switch swapping. True or false.
    true.. says so on the massdrop page

    danke mein fraulein
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:35:33
    Boards with modified plates, a la WFD's Universal plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joxx on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:52:39
    Very noobish question, is it possible to buy a keycaps set and rearrange the letters around? (I own an azerty keyboard).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:53:37
    Quote from: Joxx on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:52:39
    Very noobish question, is it possible to buy a keycaps set and rearrange the letters around? (I own an azerty keyboard).

    yes, but the profile of the keys can be different and lead to an uneven typing surface.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joxx on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:54:51
    So basically, it's pointless for me to buy a set of keycaps since I'll have a high chance of not having an even typing surface or am I misunderstanding?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:57:24
    The profile of the a and the q caps are different. So if you swap them they'll be slightly off when you type. You can do it. But it won't be even. I had cherry alphas with OEM mods and the differences in keycap heights annoyed me so much I sold my alpha caps. You might not be bothered though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joxx on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:00:06
    I most likely will be bothered by it lol. Anyway thanks for the replies, I guess I won't be able to custom my keys besides the F's and the esc button lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:00:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:57:24
    The profile of the a and the q caps are different. So if you swap them they'll be slightly off when you type. You can do it. But it won't be even. I had cherry alphas with OEM mods and the differences in keycap heights annoyed me so much I sold my alpha caps. You might not be bothered though.

    This OMG this^

    I would just but a second set of blanks if possible and use those for any "off keys". You could always go with all blanks as well :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:02:49
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:00:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:57:24
    The profile of the a and the q caps are different. So if you swap them they'll be slightly off when you type. You can do it. But it won't be even. I had cherry alphas with OEM mods and the differences in keycap heights annoyed me so much I sold my alpha caps. You might not be bothered though.

    This OMG this^

    I would just but a second set of blanks if possible and use those for any "off keys". You could always go with all blanks as well :)

    That's actually a pretty good idea.. Would probably give the keyboard a unique look. A bit costly though..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:06:45
    Or you can get sets in DSA profile, which are uniform throughout the rows.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:10:05
    Just grab a Cherry G80/G81 in French or Belgian. They are a little harder to find in dyesub/doubleshot than some other languages but not impossible. If you don't mind lasered keycap you can find those easily and usually for pretty cheap.
    Even I have a French set and I don't really use it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:14:31
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:10:05
    Even I have a French set and I don't really use it.

    Me too. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:16:34
    Do any of the keyboards in my sig have different profiles for different key rows? I'm thinking of rearranging them to Colemak, seeing how I don't even look at them for QWERTY.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:16:41
    :<
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:18:54
    Quote from: ping111 on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:16:34
    Do any of the keyboards in my sig have different profiles for different key rows? I'm thinking of rearranging them to Colemak, seeing how I don't even look at them for QWERTY.

    I think the short answer is yes, since it's not the keyboard, it's the caps themselves.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:19:45
    Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:18:54
    Quote from: ping111 on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:16:34
    Do any of the keyboards in my sig have different profiles for different key rows? I'm thinking of rearranging them to Colemak, seeing how I don't even look at them for QWERTY.

    I think the short answer is yes, since it's not the keyboard, it's the caps themselves.
    Well, perhaps that was a misphrase.  That's what I meant - do the keys that come with these have different profiles?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:22:17
    Quote from: ping111 on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:19:45
    Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:18:54
    Quote from: ping111 on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:16:34
    Do any of the keyboards in my sig have different profiles for different key rows? I'm thinking of rearranging them to Colemak, seeing how I don't even look at them for QWERTY.

    I think the short answer is yes, since it's not the keyboard, it's the caps themselves.
    Well, perhaps that was a misphrase.  That's what I meant - do the keys that come with these have different profiles?

    Yes. Top two rows are a profile, then QWER row, then ASDF row, then the bottom two rows.

    I suppose it could be classified as AABCDD.

    Best bet is to look for a colemak set, not sure how many are around. Or find a set that is uniform profile. Or use blanks caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:26:10
    Some pics and info on keycap profiles can be found in this DT Wiki articles (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keyboard_profile)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: findingthelimit on Fri, 05 April 2013, 15:16:12
    what is the difference between a pbt keycap and a regular keycap?

    what is a doubleshot? or a dye sublimation? why these terms?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 05 April 2013, 15:25:50
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Fri, 05 April 2013, 15:16:12
    what is the difference between a pbt keycap and a regular keycap?

    what is a doubleshot? or a dye sublimation? why these terms?

    PBT will most likely be dye subliminated.  Although, SP is making some doubleshot PBT keycaps and engraved PBTs exist too.

    ABS will be doubleshot, engraved, lasered, or lasered & infilled.

    PBT has a rougher texture than ABS and is more wear resistant.  Basically, PBT owns ABS all day err day.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 15:29:56
    Quote from: AKIMbO on Fri, 05 April 2013, 15:25:50
    PBT will most likely be dye subliminated.  Although, SP is making some doubleshot PBT keycaps and engraved PBTs exist too.

    ABS will be doubleshot, engraved, lasered, or lasered & infilled.
    PBT is also often engraved or pad printed, though those aren't as popular around here. But they are cheaper.
    ABS can also be pad printed, and laser printed or laser etched.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 April 2013, 15:37:04
    PBT does not have a rougher texture than X material. Texture is dependant on the mold used not the material. It does have a drier feeling that ABS or POM though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Sat, 06 April 2013, 01:37:53
    Do Pure's come with a plate or is it PCB?

    Do the right shifts on Pure's come in tsangan kits?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 06 April 2013, 01:38:50
    PCB and yes to the second question
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Chau on Sat, 06 April 2013, 04:08:36
    Do keycaps on MY switches fit on MX switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 06 April 2013, 04:09:44
    Yes, they do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Chau on Sat, 06 April 2013, 04:11:03
    Cheers mate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Chau on Sat, 06 April 2013, 04:14:17
    Can a QWERTZ kb be turned into a QWERTY?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Sat, 06 April 2013, 04:25:26
    Quote from: Chau on Sat, 06 April 2013, 04:14:17
    Can a QWERTZ kb be turned into a QWERTY?
    At OS level, yes.
    At KB level, no (unless you put a custom controller).

    Not sure is that's correct in 100% of times, someone corrects me if it's not the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 06 April 2013, 04:29:05
    If you swapped the Y with the Z, you'd have caps of different heights on different rows. Your Z would be low, and your Y would probably stick up. Also, some other caps may have legends that don't correspond properly with the layout you may be used to. I'm currently using a QWERTZ layout as is. Its not bad. You just have to know where things are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chocobunny on Sat, 06 April 2013, 11:54:55
    Does this keyboard have green switches?

    http://global.pchome.com.tw/english/?mod=item&func=exhibit&IT_NO=DCAH21-A68579032&SR_NO=SBAE0V&ROWNO=3&tm=e (http://global.pchome.com.tw/english/?mod=item&func=exhibit&IT_NO=DCAH21-A68579032&SR_NO=SBAE0V&ROWNO=3&tm=e)

    They advertise this one as "green axis" but under their Cherry MX Green category, they show keyboards with blue switches.  :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 06 April 2013, 11:57:58
    They're probably blues. I believe they have two separate words for blue and green, but they usually use qīng, which is used for both.

    This is why you see no Cherry MX Blue on the left.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chocobunny on Sat, 06 April 2013, 12:09:27
    Ahh I figured, guess I'll just find some heavier springs to go with my blue stems instead.  Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acknown3 on Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:26:30
    Techkeys (http://www.techkeys.us/custom-keys.php) doesn't have their Zelda triforce (escape) PBT keycaps listed anymore. Can I still get them from somewhere else?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:28:42
    Classifieds and hope for the best, but after 59 more non-spam post of course.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:29:08
    They haven't had them for awhile and you'll probably have to look for one in the classifieds section. Also, I don't think they're PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Sat, 06 April 2013, 17:26:41
    Quote from: Acknown3 on Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:26:30
    Techkeys (http://www.techkeys.us/custom-keys.php) doesn't have their Zelda triforce (escape) PBT keycaps listed anymore. Can I still get them from somewhere else?

    They were only ever doubleshot abs. But you can still get them here.
    http://www.keypop.net/products
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vipjun on Sun, 07 April 2013, 03:43:02
    Is there anywhere i can buy the spring that comes on the realforce spacebars?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 07 April 2013, 05:13:15
    Hey guys just wondering but is there any certain etiquette tips I should know about with this fist group buy I am getting myself into?   Trying to get the Toxic set.

    Also about how long do group buys usually take?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Sun, 07 April 2013, 05:27:21
    communicate clearly and politely, pay up on time and be patient. understand that handling this on the organizing end is a large undertaking, especially for a popular set like Toxic, and the organizers are often community members who take their own time to do all this for little to no profit at all.

    the groupbuy process (even the ones that go well) can take a while, from consolidating orders, collecting payments, adjusting from drop-outs, actually ordering, the lead time for manufacturing, shipping from the manufacturer to the GB organizer, then sorting (if it wasn't already sorted beforehand), before the organizer ships it out to you.

    because of all these factors, each groupbuy can take varying durations. I've taken part in about 3 so far, albeit the first one via a proxy, and there's the Sanctuary set, which I signed up for back when Diablo 3 was still a new game (keycaps which I still have not seen to date), and there's Klaxon, which started a few months ago, and apparently is about ready to be shipped out (I think the entire thing from start till end was about 4-6 months at best from the start of ordering, but don't quote me on that). Then there's the 'flash' GBs, the DSA Retro set which was open for about 2-3 weeks before the orders were closed, and it is now in production.

    Thus the simple answer is, it depends. But you should be prepared to wait for anything between 3-6 months after production (a reasonable estimate), and in certain cases, up to a year. If it matters, I think danielucf, the organizer of Toxic seems to have a good handle on things. I wouldn't worry about it being the latter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Sun, 07 April 2013, 07:07:09
    Who is the owner of Geekhack?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 07 April 2013, 07:14:25
    Quote from: llovro on Sun, 07 April 2013, 07:07:09
    Who is the owner of Geekhack?

    iMav.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 07 April 2013, 07:36:39
    @Larken,

    I thank you for the info Larken.  I understand that the organizers of GB's are mostly forum members and doing this on free time. 

    Sounds good on the time frame.  That should give me plenty of time to get my Phantom up and running.  I should be OK on the hardware side including building a custom case with some personal tweeks (questions on that following).  So what was the deal with the retro R4 GB?  Not trying to knock on anyone but first post on this was back in 2011 and it sounds like it hasn't been completely shipped?  Was it just that large of a GB that it took that long for everything to fall into place?  But if there are sudden delays in the Toxic GB its cool I was in the Navy for 5 years so I learned quickly to deal with sudden schedule changes.

    Now my question on this custom case i am planning.  If I was to unmap a key in the firmware for my Phantom so it was not even there in the OS could I then hard wire it to the power and/or reset switch for my computer without any worry of damaging anything?  Or should i break the traces so eliminate that chance, and in the future if I want to use that key as an actual key i would just have to jumper that pin to the next pin down the trace correct?  I realize that I can do this with the firmware and just remap the key but I would rather have a hardware solution to this.  As I am not a software guy by any means.

    Second question unrelated to first question.  I ordered some clears for my Orbweaver which is PCB mount but I ordered plate mount.  Is it safe to use these or should I just reorder PCB mount switches?  The money isn't an issue.

    Thanx for all the help regarding these issues.
    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 07 April 2013, 08:35:10
    If it is PCB mount, just open the switch tops and replace the stem and spring and close it back up. The pins not pins becomes irrelevant when there is no need to do soldering to replace the whole thing. If for some reason you are insistant on replacing the whole switch instead of opening them which is a lot less work and faster, then yes you will want switches with mounting pins or otherwise it is very easy to have them misaligned as there is nothing to square the switch but you trying to eyeball it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: watterrbottle on Sun, 07 April 2013, 09:07:01
    I want to lube my switches but they're PCB mounted WITH LEDs.

    Will I have to desolder the LEDs to unhouse the switch tops?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 07 April 2013, 09:10:11
    Quote from: watterrbottle on Sun, 07 April 2013, 09:07:01
    I want to lube my switches but they're PCB mounted WITH LEDs.

    Will I have to desolder the LEDs to unhouse the switch tops?

    Yes. You will need to desolder. Have a look at WFD's guide on how to get around this :
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: watterrbottle on Sun, 07 April 2013, 09:35:01
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 07 April 2013, 09:10:11
    Quote from: watterrbottle on Sun, 07 April 2013, 09:07:01
    I want to lube my switches but they're PCB mounted WITH LEDs.

    Will I have to desolder the LEDs to unhouse the switch tops?

    Yes. You will need to desolder. Have a look at WFD's guide on how to get around this :

    Nice, Thanks for this.

    Also, When people say 1.5x or 6.25x etc sized keys, are they referring to a single key as 1 unit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 07 April 2013, 10:02:09
    Quote from: watterrbottle on Sun, 07 April 2013, 09:35:01

    Nice, Thanks for this.

    Also, When people say 1.5x or 6.25x etc sized keys, are they referring to a single key as 1 unit?

    Yes. 1x is the size of the size of esc, alphanumerics etc whereas the spacebar would be either 6.25x or 7x depending on your keyboard and modifiers would be somewhere inbetween 1.25x and 2x. It's basically a way of measuring the length of the underside of a cap. A 1x cap is around 18-19mm and a 1.5x modifier is around 28-29mm.

    Here's a chart that shows the sizing in x's for a standard ANSI layout : http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/keycap_layout.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 April 2013, 10:11:33
    Quote from: watterrbottle on Sun, 07 April 2013, 09:35:01

    Also, When people say 1.5x or 6.25x etc sized keys, are they referring to a single key as 1 unit?

    Yes. You can refer to this keychecker (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39184.0;attach=11627;image) to learn more. I borrowed that picture from Mashby. And you can buy that sheet at TechKeys (http://www.techkeys.us/accessories.php).



    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 07 April 2013, 07:36:39
    I understand that the organizers of GB's are mostly forum members and doing this on free time. 

    So what was the deal with the retro R4 GB?

    If I was to unmap a key in the firmware for my Phantom so it was not even there in the OS could I then hard wire it to the power and/or reset switch for my computer without any worry of damaging anything? I realize that I can do this with the firmware and just remap the key but I would rather have a hardware solution to this.


    I'll PM you the R4 GB info since I'm sure it's filled with lots of drama and I'd like to keep that out of this thread. I was under the wrong impression. Apparently it has just been very slow going.

    In terms of a hardware solution for rendering a key unusable, why not try out SP's key lock outs (http://keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php). You apparently place them around the switch and cause the key to be unable to actuate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 07 April 2013, 22:38:52
    I'm having the hardest time trying to figure out how to open up a Matias switch. I thought it was straight forward, but apparently not, unless I'm missing something. No real reason why I need to open it, I just want to see the insides and how they work.

    Anyone open one of these before?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Sun, 07 April 2013, 22:51:37
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 07 April 2013, 22:38:52
    I'm having the hardest time trying to figure out how to open up a Matias switch. I thought it was straight forward, but apparently not, unless I'm missing something. No real reason why I need to open it, I just want to see the insides and how they work.

    Anyone open one of these before?

    We did a bunch at the Toronto meetup....but for the life of me I can't remember. I know Hyde had recently been playing with them, if no one reading this thread knows, toss him a pm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 07 April 2013, 23:03:11
    Quote from: Halverson on Sun, 07 April 2013, 22:51:37
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 07 April 2013, 22:38:52
    I'm having the hardest time trying to figure out how to open up a Matias switch. I thought it was straight forward, but apparently not, unless I'm missing something. No real reason why I need to open it, I just want to see the insides and how they work.

    Anyone open one of these before?

    We did a bunch at the Toronto meetup....but for the life of me I can't remember. I know Hyde had recently been playing with them, if no one reading this thread knows, toss him a pm.

    Hammer time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 00:32:03
    @CAPTBadAss
    I don't want to render the key unusable.  I just don't want it to register as a keystroke.  What I want to do is hard wire the power and reset switch to a couple switches on the F row. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 April 2013, 05:33:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 00:32:03
    @CAPTBadAss
    I don't want to render the key unusable.  I just don't want it to register as a keystroke.  What I want to do is hard wire the power and reset switch to a couple switches on the F row.

    This one's a little bit out of my realm. Hopefully someone can answer your question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Mon, 08 April 2013, 06:34:07
    Where can one obtain back 7x cherry profile spacebar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 08 April 2013, 07:16:52
    From a winkeyless Cherry keyboard like this one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHERRY-G81-1800LAAUS-2-KEYBOARD-/360592212441?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item53f4f881d9).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:00:00
    Does the profile the the cap make a difference in the space between the plate on plate mount switches and the bottom of the cap on a depressed switch?  If it doesn't does anyone know the distance from the bottom of the cap to the plate?  I am hoping there is enough room for an EL panel mounted to the top of the plate.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:04:32
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 08 April 2013, 07:16:52
    From a winkeyless Cherry keyboard like this one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHERRY-G81-1800LAAUS-2-KEYBOARD-/360592212441?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item53f4f881d9).
    45$ plus shipping isn't an attractive price of a space bar... Anyways I saw a thread yesterday (that I can't seem to find now) that GMK can make those spacebars. And since you have connections there, is that still going to happen?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:31:46
    Well of course that isn't a good price for only a spacebar. I was merely giving an example not really suggesting you should buy it.
    Yes GMK can make 7x spacebar. It is hard to say if the current buy will succeed but it is not looking great right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 08 April 2013, 09:46:37
    Would that be a POM spacebar also, or is it ABS?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:03:08
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:31:46
    Well of course that isn't a good price for only a spacebar. I was merely giving an example not really suggesting you should buy it.
    Yes GMK can make 7x spacebar. It is hard to say if the current buy will succeed but it is not looking great right now.
    Yeah, sorry. I didn't take your example as a suggestion. Still thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Internetlad on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:08:47
    Aliens?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:09:59
    Generally Cherry use the same material for the entire set so it should be POM, but occasionally they use ABS so I can't make a gaurantee.

    If you're looking for aliens maybe you should try some space invaders.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:25:30
    I'm about to ship out some Dolch Pac caps, how should I pack it? As in should I really wrap up the spacebar and large keys? I've been sent keys in some clever packages.
    I have never shipped anything in my life... Besides RMA :)

    From cali to florida
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:34:03
    Quote from: hellocodes on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:25:30
    I'm about to ship out some Dolch Pac caps, how should I pack it? As in should I really wrap up the spacebar and large keys? I've been sent keys in some clever packages.
    I have never shipped anything in my life... Besides RMA :)

    From cali to florida

    Bubble wrap and baggies. Put everything in a bubble mailer. Or if you're really paranoid, those little flat-rate boxes, wrapping, and stuffing like plastic bags/peanuts/styrofoam.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:43:13
    So as a general consensus do you guys prefer heavy or light keyboards for something that does not commute? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:46:55
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:43:13
    So as a general consensus do you guys prefer heavy or light keyboards for something that does not commute?

    I like heavy keyboards for stationary keyboards (and mobile keyboards). They feel more solid/well built.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 08 April 2013, 16:39:43
    I think merely being heavy isn't the whole story.  More than anything else, they need to be solid.  A stable footing makes it feel planted.  That means an even base with good rubber feet.  Good construction is also imporant.  Everything needs to be tight so it doesn't rattle, ping and vibrate.  With those two things, the keyboard could be fairly light and still "feel" like a heavy board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Internetlad on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:46:10
    weight often denotes quality. Best way to test the quality of a power supply is to pick up the cables in one hand and the supply in the other.

    On the other hand I've seen Chinese electronic knockoffs with a chunk of metal in them to make them seem more sturdy haha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:50:54
    Quote from: Internetlad on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:46:10
    weight often denotes quality. Best way to test the quality of a power supply is to pick up the cables in one hand and the supply in the other.

    On the other hand I've seen Chinese electronic knockoffs with a chunk of metal in them to make them seem more sturdy haha.

    That used to be true, it's not true at all anymore.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:00:14
    How do I get power to the esc key led on a Poker when both of the silver O rings came off? No solder is able to stick when these are off, as you of course know :D

    Thanks!


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:21:25
    I am not really an electronics guy but I do have a basic knowledge.  Correct me if I am wrong guys.  But I think you will have to scratch off the top protective layer above the trace and solder a wire from the trace to the LED leads.  To my knowledge Radio Shack sells fiber glass abrasive pens which this job is pretty much what they were made for.  I could be way off base but that would be where I would start thinking of heading.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:24:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:21:25
    I am not really an electronics guy but I do have a basic knowledge.  Correct me if I am wrong guys.  But I think you will have to scratch off the top protective layer above the trace and solder a wire from the trace to the LED leads.  To my knowledge Radio Shack sells fiber glass abrasive pens which this job is pretty much what they were made for.  I could be way off base but that would be where I would start thinking of heading.

    Melvang

    Thank you! I thought this could be done, as someone has told me this before, but I didn't know for sure!

    I'll be getting one of those very soon for sure. Is there any other way?


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:08:33
    Quote from: Gupgup on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:24:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:21:25
    I am not really an electronics guy but I do have a basic knowledge.  Correct me if I am wrong guys.  But I think you will have to scratch off the top protective layer above the trace and solder a wire from the trace to the LED leads.  To my knowledge Radio Shack sells fiber glass abrasive pens which this job is pretty much what they were made for.  I could be way off base but that would be where I would start thinking of heading.

    Melvang

    Thank you! I thought this could be done, as someone has told me this before, but I didn't know for sure!

    I'll be getting one of those very soon for sure. Is there any other way?


    Gupgup

    I thought this was a "Simple Questions" thread... :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:14:36
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:08:33
    Quote from: Gupgup on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:24:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:21:25
    I am not really an electronics guy but I do have a basic knowledge.  Correct me if I am wrong guys.  But I think you will have to scratch off the top protective layer above the trace and solder a wire from the trace to the LED leads.  To my knowledge Radio Shack sells fiber glass abrasive pens which this job is pretty much what they were made for.  I could be way off base but that would be where I would start thinking of heading.

    Melvang

    Thank you! I thought this could be done, as someone has told me this before, but I didn't know for sure!

    I'll be getting one of those very soon for sure. Is there any other way?


    Gupgup

    I thought this was a "Simple Questions" thread... :P

    Well I didn't see a "Harder Questions" thread so I resorted to here :D :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:33:08
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:08:33
    Quote from: Gupgup on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:24:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:21:25
    I am not really an electronics guy but I do have a basic knowledge.  Correct me if I am wrong guys.  But I think you will have to scratch off the top protective layer above the trace and solder a wire from the trace to the LED leads.  To my knowledge Radio Shack sells fiber glass abrasive pens which this job is pretty much what they were made for.  I could be way off base but that would be where I would start thinking of heading.

    Melvang

    Thank you! I thought this could be done, as someone has told me this before, but I didn't know for sure!

    I'll be getting one of those very soon for sure. Is there any other way?


    Gupgup

    I thought this was a "Simple Questions" thread... :P

    Right?? These kids and they're absurdly long questions. I don't even know where to look for an answer. Help me jdcarpe!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:46:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:21:25
    I am not really an electronics guy but I do have a basic knowledge.  Correct me if I am wrong guys.  But I think you will have to scratch off the top protective layer above the trace and solder a wire from the trace to the LED leads.  To my knowledge Radio Shack sells fiber glass abrasive pens which this job is pretty much what they were made for.  I could be way off base but that would be where I would start thinking of heading.

    Melvang

    You're correct.  You can do it with an Exacto knife as well, it's just recommended that you be careful with it when doing so.  If you want a quick and dirty solution and can see the traces, you can just bridge the trace with a small gauge wire where the land broke off to where the trace(s) leads.  I had a land pop off of my RK-9000 when I was swapping switches and had another with a questionable land.  I just did the wire bridge instead of exposing the trace on the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: affect656 on Tue, 09 April 2013, 03:53:47
    Recently moved to Seoul, Korea from the states. Where/what exact places/deals can I take advantage of while I'm here for the next year that I couldn't if I was located back state side? Like what exactly is more readily available living here?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:39:34
    Would it be somehow possible to make a spacebar like this:
    (http://i50.tinypic.com/jtnogg.jpg)
    ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:44:37
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:39:34
    Would it be somehow possible to make a spacebar like this:
    Show Image
    (http://i50.tinypic.com/jtnogg.jpg)

    ?


    Are you asking about the graphic? You could conceivably get a white spacebar and dyesub something like that on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:47:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:44:37
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:39:34
    Would it be somehow possible to make a spacebar like this:
    Show Image
    (http://i50.tinypic.com/jtnogg.jpg)

    ?


    Are you asking about the graphic? You could conceivably get a white spacebar and dyesub something like that on it.
    Yeah about the graphics. It sucks that I can't get this done on black spacebar :( You can't dyesub light stuff on dark stuff or something like that, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:47:39
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:39:34
    Would it be somehow possible to make a spacebar like this:
    Show Image
    (http://i50.tinypic.com/jtnogg.jpg)

    ?

    I think WASD keyboard offers a service for silk-screening an image on keycaps.  Look at the Walt Di$ney image spanning multiple keys in the link:

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/gallery2/customer-creations

    (My favorite: the green on black keyboard with the SPAAAACE key...  :-)  )
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:50:49
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:47:19
    Yeah about the graphics. It sucks that I can't get this done on black spacebar :( You can't dyesub light stuff on dark stuff or something like that, right?

    Correct. It needs to be dark on light.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:52:02
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:47:19
    You can't dyesub light stuff on dark stuff or something like that, right?

    Some people have been able to somehow dyesub onto dark keys, maybe by doing a double shot first, then dyesubbing the "first shot," while the "second shot" is the dark base.


    Quote from: Greystoke on Tue, 09 April 2013, 08:47:39
    I think WASD keyboard offers a service for silk-screening an image on keycaps.  Look at the Walt Di$ney image spanning multiple keys in the link:

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/gallery2/customer-creations

    (My favorite: the green on black keyboard with the SPAAAACE key...  :-)  )

    Except that WASD only does laser etching. So you have a monochrome image. No color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Tue, 09 April 2013, 15:15:08
    Is the Ducky DK9087G2 PRO really PCB mount? I thought all the Duckys were plate mount.

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=215

    ^^^ It's listed here as "Switch Mount Type --- PCB"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 09 April 2013, 15:55:36
    I have two simple questions!

    1) Does the ErgoDox have LED compatibility?

    2) Where does everyone get their LEDs from?

    Thanks :D


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 09 April 2013, 16:08:03
    The eDox has 2 LEDs, FN(I think) and Caps Lock.
    Get LEDs from Digikey etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 April 2013, 16:10:02
    Quote from: Flip on Tue, 09 April 2013, 15:15:08
    Is the Ducky DK9087G2 PRO really PCB mount? I thought all the Duckys were plate mount.

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=215

    ^^^ It's listed here as "Switch Mount Type --- PCB"

    According to these pics (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41553.msg831382#msg831382), it's plate mounted. And I've confirmed this with missalaire who owns that board.

    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 09 April 2013, 15:55:36
    I have two simple questions!

    1) Does the ErgoDox have LED compatibility?

    2) Where does everyone get their LEDs from?

    2) I imagine McMasterCarr would have them as well. Seems like a lot of people order from eBay though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 09 April 2013, 16:13:08
    McMaster Carr doesn't have them. They have small bulbs, but those won't work with a keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 April 2013, 16:14:24
    Quote from: SmallFry on Tue, 09 April 2013, 16:13:08
    McMaster Carr doesn't have them. They have small bulbs, but those won't work with a keyboard.

    Thanks bro :D. Can you elaborate on the etc in your comment before? I'm not familiar with sites like Digikey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 16:15:49
    I get my LEDs from eBay. Seller called IC.TOUCH. He ships fast.

    Get the 2x3x4 rectangular LEDs. Water clear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 10 April 2013, 04:46:04
    I get my LEDs from mouser and digikey if I need to buy them by specs, mainly wavelength and brightness. You also get them faster. Ebay is by far the cheapest, but most are from China and you'll have to wait a couple weeks. You can't really pick and choose which brightness you want, and you can't choose which shade of a color you want (wavelength). US does not have purple or pink, and only ebay has pink.

    mcmaster carr has tons of selection more for hardware, digikey and mouser are better for electronics.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 10 April 2013, 07:40:15
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 10 April 2013, 04:46:04
    I get my LEDs from mouser and digikey if I need to buy them by specs, mainly wavelength and brightness. You also get them faster. Ebay is by far the cheapest, but most are from China and you'll have to wait a couple weeks. You can't really pick and choose which brightness you want, and you can't choose which shade of a color you want (wavelength). US does not have purple or pink, and only ebay has pink.

    mcmaster carr has tons of selection more for hardware, digikey and mouser are better for electronics.

    Second the recommendation for Mouser, they have fantastic customer service.  I also ran across the site below when searching for specialty LEDs, they are based in Missouri and seem to have a decent selection.  Haven't ordered from them, so I can't speak to delivery times/service.

    http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/through-hole/

    They don't have purple, but they do have violet, and pink: 
    http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/through-hole/filter/Color,Violet,136,4646:
    http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/through-hole/5mm-pink-led-45-degree-viewing-angle-300-mcd/295/1222/

    A bit pricy, though...




    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 10 April 2013, 08:28:48
    I use Digikey
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:13:39
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 10 April 2013, 04:46:04
    I get my LEDs from mouser and digikey if I need to buy them by specs, mainly wavelength and brightness. You also get them faster. Ebay is by far the cheapest, but most are from China and you'll have to wait a couple weeks. You can't really pick and choose which brightness you want, and you can't choose which shade of a color you want (wavelength). US does not have purple or pink, and only ebay has pink.

    mcmaster carr has tons of selection more for hardware, digikey and mouser are better for electronics.
    What spec deter mime's the LEDs brightness fv or wavelength or both?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: babyhands on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:17:22
    Are we still doing simple questions simple answers? if so:
    What is this sticker mod i am seeing on some keyboards? Like putting stickers under the switches or something? What does this do? And what does lubing the spring do? It seems like lube on a spring would do nothing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:37:39
    Quote from: babyhands on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:17:22
    Are we still doing simple questions simple answers? if so:
    What is this sticker mod i am seeing on some keyboards? Like putting stickers under the switches or something? What does this do? And what does lubing the spring do? It seems like lube on a spring would do nothing?

    The stickers go between the top and bottom halves off the switch housing. It reduces movement of the switch housing itself, which eliminates any "wobble" of the switch.

    Lubing the sliders of the stem makes the switches feel smoother, and reduces or eliminates any "grittiness" feel of the switches. Lubing the springs reduces or eliminates any squeaking sound coming from the spring movement inside the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:40:03
    What branch was/are you in JD?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:46:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:40:03
    What branch was/are you in JD?


    Air Force. 1N373A. E-5/SSgt. Also, thank you for your service, Petty Officer! :D

    (http://i.imgur.com/UlQWwkx.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:59:04
    Thank you sir.  I was an Avaition Structural Mechanic on SH-60 F and SH-60 H Seahawks.  It may be a 30 year old design on the airframe but it is still an amazing bird.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:00:36
    So what is the prefered method for attaching images to a post? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:01:47
    Host image then {img}http://link.jpg{/img} but change curly brackets to square brackets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:03:35
    Lol. Didn't work.

    Code: [Select]
    [IMG]http://thisisyourhost.com/whatever.png[/IMG]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:04:32
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:03:35
    Lol. Didn't work.
    Yeah, I'm on Tapatalk so I couldn't preview. I fixed it :)

    What's funny is that your code shows up as a photo on Tapatalk lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:06:42
    You can also specify the height and width of your image, or, if you just specify one of the other, the system will adjust the size based on that dimension and keeping the ratio.

    For instance:
    Code: [Select]
    [IMG width=320 height=240]http://thisisyourhost.com/whatever.png[/IMG]
    [IMG width=320]http://thisisyourhost.com/whatever.png[/IMG]
    [IMG height=240]http://thisisyourhost.com/whatever.png[/IMG]


    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:04:32
    What's funny is that your code shows up as a photo on Tapatalk lol

    Now that is funny. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:11:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:06:42
    You can also specify the height and width of your image, or, if you just specify one of the other, the system will adjust the size based on that dimension and keeping the ratio.

    For instance:
    Code: [Select]
    [IMG width=320 height=240]http://thisisyourhost.com/whatever.png[/IMG]
    [IMG width=320]http://thisisyourhost.com/whatever.png[/IMG]
    [IMG height=240]http://thisisyourhost.com/whatever.png[/IMG]


    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:04:32
    What's funny is that your code shows up as a photo on Tapatalk lol

    Now that is funny. :)
    I just type the code out when I'm on my tablet. Works easier for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:13:19
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:11:19
    I just type the code out when I'm on my tablet. Works easier for me.

    WTF are you talking about? :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:14:28
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:13:19
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:11:19
    I just type the code out when I'm on my tablet. Works easier for me.

    WTF are you talking about? :P
    Like on the forum you can hit the button and paste a link or on mobile there's a button to host. I just type the tags out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:17:04
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:14:28
    Like on the forum you can hit the button and paste a link or on mobile there's a button to host. I just type the tags out.

    Oh yeah. I rarely use that. I type them out when on my phone, or copy the BBCode from imgur when on desktop.

    Lookie:

    (http://i.imgur.com/VoAjoIN.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/VoAjoIN.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:17:14
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:14:28
    Like on the forum you can hit the button and paste a link or on mobile there's a button to host. I just type the tags out.

    That's what I do as well, but wait! People actually use the GH mobile app instead of Tapatalk? It's wonky and not very good imo D:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:22:46
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:17:04
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/VoAjoIN.jpg)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 11:34:20
    You've got it!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 10 April 2013, 16:52:38
    What is this an excersize on picture squishing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 16:54:30
    Posting images and manipulating the displayed sizes. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 10 April 2013, 17:31:09
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 16:54:30
    Posting images and manipulating the displayed sizes. :)
    We don't use no fancy words like that 'round here. We call that picture squishin'.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 April 2013, 19:51:57
    So I have a question for once. I have a Pure but I want to fit it in a case designed for a Poker. Can I do this? I know the question is a bit general so I have a follow on.

    Can someone get me the following info for a Pure?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:04:19
    Same, same, and it will depend on the case. The Pure PCB has the same holes as the Poker PCB plus an additional one in the middle.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:06:17
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:04:19
    Same, same, and it will depend on the case. The Pure PCB has the same holes as the Poker PCB plus an additional one in the middle.


    Yup! I think the only difference for a case is that extra mounting point!

    Also, grats on 1000 points madame! Errr posts I guess hah
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:15:31
    not sure if this is a simple question....
    I recently bought a old IBM Model M, it's a bit dirty, how should I clean the caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:18:36
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:04:19
    Same, same, and it will depend on the case. The Pure PCB has the same holes as the Poker PCB plus an additional one in the middle.

    Yay! you hit 1k in my thread :D Congrats!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:19:25
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:15:31
    not sure if this is a simple question....
    I recently bought a old IBM Model M, it's a bit dirty, how should I clean the caps?

    phx, there is a process called retr0brite that people use to clean the cap if they are yellowed. If they're simply dirty, you can put 2 denture tabs in warm water and put the caps in there for 20 minutes. Dry and they'll be clean.

    Edit: Sorry for the double post!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:31:53
    wow this is lame, i cant undo the bolts... the holes are too small for my screw driver to reach in
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:32:10
    can I.... wash it with water?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:41:07
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:32:10
    can I.... wash it with water?

    You can but it won't get rid of the yellowing or anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:46:41
    omg wtf the bolts....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 10 April 2013, 23:11:03
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:46:41
    omg wtf the bolts....
    Bolts?! You lucky ****!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:13:34
    Triple shots. I know they exist, but what company does them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:22:00
    phx! Ignore the bolts, just pop off the caps like any other board and soak them in water with denture tabs. That'll clean them up nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:29:48
    Quote from: Halverson on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:22:00
    phx! Ignore the bolts, just pop off the caps like any other board and soak them in water with denture tabs. That'll clean them up nice.

    Simple question, is this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42267.0) a good idea or not? Regardless, I'm going to try and make ATLEAST one for myself :D


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:31:46
    Quote from: Gupgup on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:29:48
    Quote from: Halverson on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:22:00
    phx! Ignore the bolts, just pop off the caps like any other board and soak them in water with denture tabs. That'll clean them up nice.

    Simple question, is this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42267.0) a good idea or not? Regardless, I'm going to try and make ATLEAST one for myself :D


    Gupgup

    No!! Put your rare caps on your most used keys and giver! :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:33:38
    Quote from: Halverson on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:31:46
    Quote from: Gupgup on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:29:48
    Quote from: Halverson on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:22:00
    phx! Ignore the bolts, just pop off the caps like any other board and soak them in water with denture tabs. That'll clean them up nice.

    Simple question, is this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42267.0) a good idea or not? Regardless, I'm going to try and make ATLEAST one for myself :D


    Gupgup

    No!! Put your rare caps on your most used keys and giver! :p

    Hahah that DOES seem like a good idea... :p

    But seriously :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 07:35:50
    Quote from: Gupgup on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:29:48
    Simple question, is this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42267.0) a good idea or not? Regardless, I'm going to try and make ATLEAST one for myself :D

    Gupgup

    Pretty subjective question but I'll bite. If I play devil's advocate, why not pickup a numpad or SP's cap show case thingys? Why would we want to make a PCB/case for this? And the GH60 numpad would look great as a cap showcase.

    But honestly, I like the idea. MK.com had a mini 4 switch pcb thing that had cleap caps so you could see the red, brown, blue, and black stem. And actually press down on then and get a feel for pcb mounted switches


    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 11 April 2013, 02:13:34
    Triple shots. I know they exist, but what company does them?

    I dont think any current company makes triple shots. Only ever seen em on super old boards like the Hall Effect boards/numpads
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 11 April 2013, 08:16:13
    Well according to deskthority.net/wiki/keycap_printing

    "Triple or even quadruple shot molded keycaps have been made, but these would involve even more expense and complication."

    some images for you guys to ponder
    http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide/9200#post_11155720
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 11 April 2013, 10:22:13
    Can anyone confirm if the Das Keyboard Model S Ultimate has the required hardware for LED's in the keys or would I have to add that myself?

    Tips on opening a Das would be very nice as well as if it is plate or PCB mount switches

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 10:36:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 11 April 2013, 10:22:13
    Can anyone confirm if the Das Keyboard Model S Ultimate has the required hardware for LED's in the keys or would I have to add that myself?

    Tips on opening a Das would be very nice as well as if it is plate or PCB mount switches

    Melvang

    I cannot say this with certainty, as I have never had my hands on a Das Ultimate S, but I highly doubt the PCB has the required holes for in-switch LEDs. And they are plate mounted switches. I'm not saying that some highly motivated person couldn't mod the switches to include LEDs, but it would be very difficult.

    Scenario 1: You get a tiny drill bit and drill out the holes in the correct places in the PCB for the LED legs. Then install the LEDs in the switches and wire them all by hand under the PCB.

    Scenario 2: You desolder all the switches, remove the PCB, install the LEDs in the switches mounted in the plate, wire them all by hand under the plate (routing the wires so that you can still install the plate and switches onto the PCB, then solder everything back together.

    In each case, you would have to tap power from somewhere to provide for the LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 11 April 2013, 10:47:35
    Thanks for the info JD.  Would you happen to know if a single USB plug straight from the mobo could drive those LED's?  Was trying to decide between installing LED's or putting an EL panel under the keycaps but not sure if there is room between the bottom of the cap and the top of the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 11 April 2013, 11:21:49
    Actually, if USB could power them, that'd be perfect as the Das has a USB hub built in that you could use to run them on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 11 April 2013, 11:25:35
    that was exactly what I was thinking.  But I think I am leaning towards the EL panel for a couple reasons.

    1.  Softer more even glow
    2.  Easier wiring
    3.  I have found a website that sells a kit that is USB powered but don't remember how big the panel is
    4.  No switch removal.  Just cut holes in the panel where the switches are, stick it down, plug it in and turn it on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 11 April 2013, 11:38:56
    What about those LED strips that you can cut at certain points and wire together? I would imagine that a lot of people who want backlighting don't actually use caps that are backlight compatible. Are you just interested in the light shining through, or are you particularly looking for them to be placed exactly where the caps are at?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 11 April 2013, 11:50:07
    mostly just wanting a nice even glow comming up between the keys.  Similar to the backlighting on the Razer Nostromo

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/221212092382?_trksid=p2048036

    far right pic is a good shot of the backlight
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 11 April 2013, 12:03:08
    See, something like this: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/image/11327/cpa-419_4.jpg/cpa-420/Lian_Li_12V_Red_LED_Kit_-_360mm_Strip_Lighting_-_4-Pin_LED-R.html

    You can cut them and wire them together. That way, you could arrange them how you see fit under the plate. And they are thin strips, so you could most likely slide them in between the plate and PCB without having to desolder anything!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 11 April 2013, 12:09:42
    Anyone with experience shipping via EMS; how long do packages normally take to clear US customs?  (I know the white powder probably caused a more thorough search...   :p )

    I've checked status on my keyboard shipment, coming in from Taiwan (PC Home), and it shows that the package was received in the US and inbound to Customs on the 7th.  What's the best guess on when that will be released and in USPS mail?  A week?  Two?  Sometime in May, if I'm lucky?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:19:36
    Depends if they feel like holding it for inspection. Most packages are not and clear in a few days. Packages that are held for inspection may take weeks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:26:52
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:19:36
    Depends if they feel like holding it for inspection. Most packages are not and clear in a few days. Packages that are held for inspection may take weeks.

    "...weeks?!"   :eek:

    Good grief.  Well, I'll cross my fingers it clears more quickly.  Thanks for the info!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:28:23
    Yes, it varies from days to weeks. I've had things sent from China/Taiwan/Hong Kong arrive in like 3 days. Other things have taken 3-4 weeks. It's pretty random.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:32:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:28:23
    Yes, it varies from days to weeks. I've had things sent from China/Taiwan/Hong Kong arrive in like 3 days. Other things have taken 3-4 weeks. It's pretty random.

    I wouldn't be surprised is this was yet another area of government impacted by the bloody sequestration budget cuts...   :mad:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 15:58:42
    Quote from: Greystoke on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:32:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:28:23
    Yes, it varies from days to weeks. I've had things sent from China/Taiwan/Hong Kong arrive in like 3 days. Other things have taken 3-4 weeks. It's pretty random.

    I wouldn't be surprised is this was yet another area of government impacted by the bloody sequestration budget cuts...   :mad:

    Please keep political opinions out of this thread. Really dont care for them one way or another.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 11 April 2013, 16:53:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 15:58:42
    Quote from: Greystoke on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:32:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:28:23
    Yes, it varies from days to weeks. I've had things sent from China/Taiwan/Hong Kong arrive in like 3 days. Other things have taken 3-4 weeks. It's pretty random.

    I wouldn't be surprised is this was yet another area of government impacted by the bloody sequestration budget cuts...   :mad:

    Please keep political opinions out of this thread. Really dont care for them one way or another.

    Jawohl, mein Capitan!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 16:57:09
    Quote from: Greystoke on Thu, 11 April 2013, 16:53:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 15:58:42
    Quote from: Greystoke on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:32:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:28:23
    Yes, it varies from days to weeks. I've had things sent from China/Taiwan/Hong Kong arrive in like 3 days. Other things have taken 3-4 weeks. It's pretty random.

    I wouldn't be surprised is this was yet another area of government impacted by the bloody sequestration budget cuts...   :mad:

    Please keep political opinions out of this thread. Really dont care for them one way or another.

    Jawohl, mein Capitan!

    Danke mein fraulein :D  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 11 April 2013, 17:00:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 16:57:09
    Quote from: Greystoke on Thu, 11 April 2013, 16:53:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 15:58:42
    Quote from: Greystoke on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:32:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 13:28:23
    Yes, it varies from days to weeks. I've had things sent from China/Taiwan/Hong Kong arrive in like 3 days. Other things have taken 3-4 weeks. It's pretty random.

    I wouldn't be surprised is this was yet another area of government impacted by the bloody sequestration budget cuts...   :mad:

    Please keep political opinions out of this thread. Really dont care for them one way or another.

    Jawohl, mein Capitan!

    Danke mein fraulein :D:P

    Bitte.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 20:22:20
    Well the topre appreciation thread gave me no help, so I am going to ask this here:
    Quote
    Hey guys, I really didn't feel like reading through 12 pages, nor did I think it was acceptable to start a new thread when this exists:
    I am a gamer, mostly sc2 (fairly high level, and only getting better) and dota. How are topre's for gaming? I first was interested in mechanical keyboards for the NKRO, because when playing mmo's my old keyboard wouldn't be able to register all of the buttons i was pressing. Any who, I am assuming topre's don't have NKRO? I guess it isn't that big of a deal because now that I play sc2 mainly I don't really need it, but this still stands, how do you guys feel they are for gaming? Also, maybe its just me, but in the pictures the f keys look kinda far away from the number row. As my username suggests, I do have small hands, and like my keybinds as close together as possible, so are the f keys really farther away than normal keyboards (like the ducky TKL i am typing on right now), or is it just the pictures? Also, people say these boards feel like a high quality rubber dome, but that just doesn't make sense to me. The reason I like my cherry browns and blues so much is because they are almost crispy, they almost feel magnetic if that makes sense? Rubber domes are the opposite, and I am hoping Topres aren't like rubber domes, but instead they have a super crisp, tactile, feel like browns and blues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 11 April 2013, 20:26:53
    Topres work fine for gaming.  The only possible issue in my experience is that the variable boards have very light keys on the pinkys, so when you rest your hand on the WASD cluster, you may accidentally activate the "A" key.  Otherwise, they're great!  The Realforce is just a nice keyboard, period.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 20:34:47
    Quote from: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 20:22:20
    Well the topre appreciation thread gave me no help, so I am going to ask this here:
    Quote
    Hey guys, I really didn't feel like reading through 12 pages, nor did I think it was acceptable to start a new thread when this exists:
    I am a gamer, mostly sc2 (fairly high level, and only getting better) and dota. How are topre's for gaming? I first was interested in mechanical keyboards for the NKRO, because when playing mmo's my old keyboard wouldn't be able to register all of the buttons i was pressing. Any who, I am assuming topre's don't have NKRO? I guess it isn't that big of a deal because now that I play sc2 mainly I don't really need it, but this still stands, how do you guys feel they are for gaming? Also, maybe its just me, but in the pictures the f keys look kinda far away from the number row. As my username suggests, I do have small hands, and like my keybinds as close together as possible, so are the f keys really farther away than normal keyboards (like the ducky TKL i am typing on right now), or is it just the pictures? Also, people say these boards feel like a high quality rubber dome, but that just doesn't make sense to me. The reason I like my cherry browns and blues so much is because they are almost crispy, they almost feel magnetic if that makes sense? Rubber domes are the opposite, and I am hoping Topres aren't like rubber domes, but instead they have a super crisp, tactile, feel like browns and blues?

    Again. Subjective but I'll still bite. :D If you know TT1, he played with a Topre board. He might still but I'm not sure. I believe so did MC. So I'm sure that you can be just as successful as they were/are ^_^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:09:11
    yes I know TT1, and i don't think i can be succesful as MC...Has anyone tried them that can comment to my question about how they feel? Do the have the crispness I am talking about? Because rubber domes are so mushy...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:12:57
    Quote from: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:09:11
    yes I know TT1, and i don't think i can be succesful as MC...Has anyone tried them that can comment to my question about how they feel? Do the have the crispness I am talking about? Because rubber domes are so mushy...

    This is very subjective. I'm hesitant to answer but I honestly at the moment think they feel mushy like rubber domes. But I now bring wrath on my head. I'd rather not have this thread turn into another opinions thread...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:33:58
    I feel like its not THAT subjective :P, are they tactile? are they crisp feeling like blues or browns? Or are they different? I mean i am not here to start an argument, just wanted to see what they feel like because "high quality" rubber dome doesnt really mean much to me, and they are so expensive i won't get to try one unless i buy one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:41:34
    Quote from: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:33:58
    I feel like its not THAT subjective :P, are they tactile? are they crisp feeling like blues or browns? Or are they different? I mean i am not here to start an argument, just wanted to see what they feel like because "high quality" rubber dome doesnt really mean much to me, and they are so expensive i won't get to try one unless i buy one.

    To me they feel like they're rubber domes that have an actuation/bump in the middle. I don't think they're crisp like blues. I don't think browns feel crisp or tactile at all so I can't answer that myself. Hopefully someone with a Topre board besides metalliqaz can comment as well. Not that you're not awesome metalliqaz :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sai on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:52:59
    CPTBadAss, this is slowly turning into what you don't wish for.  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:54:37
    Quote from: Sai on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:52:59
    CPTBadAss, this is slowly turning into what you don't wish for.  :p

    I know. And I'm not thrilled.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 11 April 2013, 22:20:03
    anyone know where i might be able to get some connectors for plugging into the mobo headers for power and reset switch with pins unwired?

    i know not a keyboard question but will be if i can get this mod done

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 22:28:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:41:34
    Quote from: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:33:58
    I feel like its not THAT subjective :P, are they tactile? are they crisp feeling like blues or browns? Or are they different? I mean i am not here to start an argument, just wanted to see what they feel like because "high quality" rubber dome doesnt really mean much to me, and they are so expensive i won't get to try one unless i buy one.

    To me they feel like they're rubber domes that have an actuation/bump in the middle. I don't think they're crisp like blues. I don't think browns feel crisp or tactile at all so I can't answer that myself. Hopefully someone with a Topre board besides metalliqaz can comment as well. Not that you're not awesome metalliqaz :D
    the only tactile boards i have felt are blue and brown, so i cant compare brown to clears or anything like that, so i guess from my limited switch testing they feel crisp :D. And i guess i will stay away from topres for a while then, i really wanna get my hands on some ergo clears 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 11 April 2013, 22:29:16
    Quote from: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 22:28:10
    i really wanna get my hands on some ergo clears

    Do it!! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Thu, 11 April 2013, 22:53:02
    ergoclears really aren't suited for gaming, especially for those games where keys have to be held down. the extra tactility is great for typing, where keys are struck, but not for keys that are held down, as there's a moment where the bump on the upstroke just causes this jammed feeling for a split second. this holds even for lubed ergoclears, especially if you're on 55g springs.

    on my boards, I ended up switching out the ctrl shift mods for brown stems and red stems. imo, ergo clears remain the best choice for typing. gamers should stick to browns.

    if you're adamant about ergoclears, the 62g variant doesn't suffer from the same problem, especially if those springs come from originative. those springs, while supposed to be only slightly heavier than the default cherry mx 45g springs, are actually alot heavier than I expected, and wouldn't have the large 'stuck' bump that the 55gs have. tactility is of course, reduced in comparison.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 23:21:41
    Quote from: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 20:22:20
    Well the topre appreciation thread gave me no help, so I am going to ask this here:
    Quote
    Hey guys, I really didn't feel like reading through 12 pages, nor did I think it was acceptable to start a new thread when this exists:
    I am a gamer, mostly sc2 (fairly high level, and only getting better) and dota. How are topre's for gaming? I first was interested in mechanical keyboards for the NKRO, because when playing mmo's my old keyboard wouldn't be able to register all of the buttons i was pressing. Any who, I am assuming topre's don't have NKRO? I guess it isn't that big of a deal because now that I play sc2 mainly I don't really need it, but this still stands, how do you guys feel they are for gaming? Also, maybe its just me, but in the pictures the f keys look kinda far away from the number row. As my username suggests, I do have small hands, and like my keybinds as close together as possible, so are the f keys really farther away than normal keyboards (like the ducky TKL i am typing on right now), or is it just the pictures? Also, people say these boards feel like a high quality rubber dome, but that just doesn't make sense to me. The reason I like my cherry browns and blues so much is because they are almost crispy, they almost feel magnetic if that makes sense? Rubber domes are the opposite, and I am hoping Topres aren't like rubber domes, but instead they have a super crisp, tactile, feel like browns and blues?

    How does this give you no help? You just don't like my answer? You never posted any response...

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 20:35:51
    Quote from: babyhands on Wed, 10 April 2013, 19:28:38
    Also, people say these boards feel like a high quality rubber dome, but that just doesn't make sense to me. The reason I like my cherry browns and blues so much is because they are almost crispy, they almost feel magnetic if that makes sense? Rubber domes are the opposite, and I am hoping Topres aren't like rubber domes, but instead they have a super crisp, tactile, feel like browns and blues?

    They say that, because it's true. Hope all you want. If you don't want to feel like you are typing on the best quality, smoothest feeling rubber dome you ever tried, don't get a Topre. The rubber dome, er cup, is what gives a Topre switch its tactile feeling and all of its mechanical action. The coiled spring is only there to provide capacitance for the electrical circuit.

    I'm not hating!

    You could give Topre a try. You might like it. You might even love it. You probably won't hate it. But it doesn't feel anything at all like a Cherry MX switch, brown or otherwise.

    I now return you to the Topre worshippers club. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Fri, 12 April 2013, 04:08:30
    Quote from: Larken on Thu, 11 April 2013, 22:53:02
    ergoclears really aren't suited for gaming, especially for those games where keys have to be held down. the extra tactility is great for typing, where keys are struck, but not for keys that are held down, as there's a moment where the bump on the upstroke just causes this jammed feeling for a split second. this holds even for lubed ergoclears, especially if you're on 55g springs.
    I call that upstroke hysteresis. Since I tried only one single key (didn't bothered to mod the whole keyoard after experiencing that), I can't really judge ergoclears, but I'd say they simply sucks for any application that requires fast double tapping (gaming, specially RTS; typing; etc). Didn't know that they have this issue even after lubing!


    Quote from: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 20:22:20
    are the f keys really farther away than normal keyboards (like the ducky TKL i am typing on right now), or is it just the pictures?
    Still waiting for an answer to this question. Nobody answers your questions :P
    (looking at some pictures (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0), they don't really seem farther away than a standard TKL layout)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 April 2013, 08:36:12
    Quote from: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 20:22:20
    are the f keys really farther away than normal keyboards (like the ducky TKL i am typing on right now), or is it just the pictures?
    Still waiting for an answer to this question. Nobody answers your questions :P
    (looking at some pictures (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0), they don't really seem farther away than a standard TKL layout)
    [/quote]

    I can confirm the distance tomorrow but they look to the the standard distance away like my Filco.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: le0rgg on Fri, 12 April 2013, 11:31:19
    KBT Race is good for FPS?

    i'm looking my first keyboard and I like TKL style..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 April 2013, 11:35:59
    Quote from: le0rgg on Fri, 12 April 2013, 11:31:19
    KBT Race is good for FPS?

    i'm looking my first keyboard and I like TKL style..

    KBT Race is considered a 75% board, not TKL. It has the Function row closer to the number row. Compare this picture (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=120) (75% board) to this picture (http://i.imgur.com/Y5XRiIG.jpg) (TKL board).

    In terms of being "good" for FPS? I think you could be good with rubber dome board. Picking a switch and layout is very subjective and personal to each person. There are professional StarCraft 2 players (My preferred game, I know little about FPS) who play on QT-35 boards, which are cheapo rubber dome boards. I hesitate to give an answer since there's a million different opinions on this. You're the only person that will type on your keyboard so you're the only person that can figure out if you like a board or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: daerid on Fri, 12 April 2013, 12:41:06
    Quote from: babyhands on Thu, 11 April 2013, 21:33:58
    I feel like its not THAT subjective :P, are they tactile? are they crisp feeling like blues or browns? Or are they different? I mean i am not here to start an argument, just wanted to see what they feel like because "high quality" rubber dome doesnt really mean much to me, and they are so expensive i won't get to try one unless i buy one.

    At least if you buy one and don't like it you can sell it for at least 90% of what you bought it for.

    But to answer your question, it IS totally subjective. To me, 55g Topres are totally crisp and tactile, but I know people who think they're mushy. They have a softer feel than any Cherry switch, since Cherry switches involve moving hard plastic and springs, no rubber involved.

    If you're curious, save up the money and buy one. Even if you don't like it, at the end of the day you'll only be out something like $20 tops if you decide to sell it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Fri, 12 April 2013, 12:49:40
    Does the plate in the KMAC 1 allow for easy spring/stem switching?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:21:27
    Quote from: hellocodes on Fri, 12 April 2013, 12:49:40
    Does the plate in the KMAC 1 allow for easy spring/stem switching?

    No. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:26:41
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:21:27
    Quote from: hellocodes on Fri, 12 April 2013, 12:49:40
    Does the plate in the KMAC 1 allow for easy spring/stem switching?

    No. :)
    As a matter of fact, I believe there isn't any KMAC family members that support this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:31:09
    I thought so, just double checking.

    LZ's have the plate that allows this right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:31:19
    Perhaps Halvy's KMAC plate. :))
    Yes, LZ plates sometimes have this ability, depends upon the board (and plate, consequently).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Capitalistix on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:04:26
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:31:19
    Perhaps Halvy's KMAC plate. :))
    Yes, LZ plates sometimes have this ability, depends upon the board (and plate, consequently).

    Hey guys, does anyone know if the typenow solid has plate moutned switches? Ive heard these are the easiest to change? As opposed to pcb mount? Perhaps if someone could point me to a switch swapping tutorial? The ones I've found through the youtubes kinda suck...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:05:27
    It does have plate-mounted switches. But plate-mounted are not easier to swap than PCB mount, unless the plate was designed for it. And I don't believe the TNS was designed for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:09:27
    Quote from: Capitalistix on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:04:26
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:31:19
    Perhaps Halvy's KMAC plate. :))
    Yes, LZ plates sometimes have this ability, depends upon the board (and plate, consequently).

    Hey guys, does anyone know if the typenow solid has plate moutned switches? Ive heard these are the easiest to change? As opposed to pcb mount? Perhaps if someone could point me to a switch swapping tutorial? The ones I've found through the youtubes kinda suck...

    To first answer your question, the TypeNow Solid does indeed have plate mounted switches. Orange metal plate inside a black anodized aluminum case.

    However, swapping stems and springs is much easier with PCB mounted switches versus plate mounted switches. Unless the plate has "easy opening" switch holes, which the TNS does not. You would have to desolder all the switches from the PCB to remove the plate, in order to open the switches.

    Here is WFD's excellent tutorial video:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: babyhands on Fri, 12 April 2013, 16:33:02
    @jdcarpe sorry man i must not have seen your post! Yeah, I think I will stick with cherry switches for now. I kinda want my board with browns back :(, but alas, i need to sell my two boards first haha, im too stingy :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 13 April 2013, 09:08:23
    TypeNow Solid is just a Leopold FC200 in a metal casing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 13 April 2013, 09:09:47
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 13 April 2013, 09:08:23
    TypeNow Solid is just a Leopold FC200 in a metal casing.

    It feels like the browns in it were lubed. Doesn't feel like other browns I have.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:36:30
    Q: I'm looking to purchase my second mechanical keyboard and have decided on this criteria:

    Been looking at Leopolds, Filcos, and QFRs but none of these (from what I've found) offer exactly what I'm looking for. Is there something I'm missing? What's my best chance of getting all of these options?

    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:59:47
    Quickfire Rapids should work for you. They are TKL, have MX Blacks, are costar, h ave detachable cables, only have branding on the back of the keyboard, and are black, and they are DEFINITELY less than $200.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:17:37
    CM quickfire rapid. It fits all those criteria you listed, for ~$80. Leopold might fill all those points, but I'm not sure if it comes in mx black.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:26:58
    Leo fits everything but the Costar stabs.  You may also want to consider WASDv2 (when it comes out) and Ducky's line
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:50:23
    Will I ever be able to stick a julysicle on my keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:51:55
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:50:23
    Will I ever be able to stick a julysicle on my keyboard?

    No, I think if you ever get one, it'll need to come over to me for some "testing". :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:48:09
    Quote from: inteli722 on Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:59:47
    Quickfire Rapids should work for you. They are TKL, have MX Blacks, are costar, h ave detachable cables, only have branding on the back of the keyboard, and are black, and they are DEFINITELY less than $200.

    I've been unable to locate any retailer selling the Black case QFR with MX Blacks. Only finding reds and greens.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 14 April 2013, 20:07:03
    Quote from: dadgh on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:48:09
    Quote from: inteli722 on Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:59:47
    Quickfire Rapids should work for you. They are TKL, have MX Blacks, are costar, h ave detachable cables, only have branding on the back of the keyboard, and are black, and they are DEFINITELY less than $200.

    I've been unable to locate any retailer selling the Black case QFR with MX Blacks. Only finding reds and greens.

    You could also do what I did, buy a black with gray case and green with black case and swap the cases, sell the one you don't want and still be under budget.  Also, I do know that CM is selling black cases for the QFR line separate as well, but I don't know how to get one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 14 April 2013, 20:08:15
    Don't forget that reds and blacks are the same feel, blacks just have stiffer spring
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 April 2013, 20:17:09
    Quote from: dadgh on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:48:09
    Quote from: inteli722 on Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:59:47
    Quickfire Rapids should work for you. They are TKL, have MX Blacks, are costar, h ave detachable cables, only have branding on the back of the keyboard, and are black, and they are DEFINITELY less than $200.

    I've been unable to locate any retailer selling the Black case QFR with MX Blacks. Only finding reds and greens.

    If you're OK with the old unbranded cases, MechanicalKeyboards.com has a ton of them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 14 April 2013, 20:29:05
    Is there away to stop following a thread you have replied in? 

    Unrelated question...  Any tips to modding my switch housing so I can still swap springs and such without desoldering LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 April 2013, 20:51:01
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 April 2013, 20:29:05
    Is there away to stop following a thread you have replied in? 

    Not sure. This has been asked a bunch of times and I still never found an answer. And I'm still bad at mods so I don't know the answer. Hopefully someone else pops in to help. Sorry I havent been able to hunt down info for you melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 14 April 2013, 21:20:06
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 April 2013, 20:29:05
    Unrelated question...  Any tips to modding my switch housing so I can still swap springs and such without desoldering LEDs?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 14 April 2013, 21:21:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 April 2013, 20:29:05
    Is there away to stop following a thread you have replied in? 

    If it's not in your setting options, maybe suggest that in the forum feedback and suggestions thread. Or perhaps the forum bugs thread too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 21:42:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:51:55
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:50:23
    Will I ever be able to stick a julysicle on my keyboard?

    No, I think if you ever get one, it'll need to come over to me for some "testing". :P

    if i get one, i swear you may have a look

    just a look
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 April 2013, 22:37:03
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 14 April 2013, 21:20:06
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 April 2013, 20:29:05
    Unrelated question...  Any tips to modding my switch housing so I can still swap springs and such without desoldering LEDs?


    WFD for the win!! Thanks for the info bomb!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:22:38
    Which Android phones have the best battery life?

    Does that come anywhere near iPhones? Last I had android I had a HTC Incredible which had bad battery life.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:27:21
    Quote from: Flip on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:22:38
    Which Android phones have the best battery life?

    Does that come anywhere near iPhones? Last I had android I had a HTC Incredible which had bad battery life.

    I feel like there's a joke to be made here, but anyways...

    Droid razr maxx hd(better)
    Galaxy note 2(better)
    Galaxy s3  (same as iphone)

    And a couple others that I can't think of.  The GS4 should have better life as well, but it's not released yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clakdale661 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:22:51
    Where can I find some mx green switches? I've seen some people refer to 7bit on another site, but it looks like he's international. Surely, there has to be another source of mx green switches somewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:39:14
    Quote from: clakdale661 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:22:51
    Where can I find some mx green switches? I've seen some people refer to 7bit on another site, but it looks like he's international. Surely, there has to be another source of mx green switches somewhere.

    Not really, unless you want to buy a board just to harvest switches out of.  You can get an approximation of greens by combining blue stems with black springs (by buying both switches and also having ghetto reds, too and that can be accomplished easily enough through mouser) or blue stems and the heaviest of the springs sherryton sells if you're lucky enough for the transaction to go through.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:42:57
    Well I am desoldering the LEDs on my orbweaver so I can change the LED color and swap the blues for clears.  I have come to the conclusion that desoldering LEDs with a radio shack desoldering iron sucks.  Any tips until I can get a solder sucker?  I have tried adding solder to the stubborn ones but it is still pretty brutal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:47:28
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:42:57
    Well I am desoldering the LEDs on my orbweaver so I can change the LED color and swap the blues for clears.  I have come to the conclusion that desoldering LEDs with a radio shack desoldering iron sucks.  Any tips until I can get a solder sucker?  I have tried adding solder to the stubborn ones but it is still pretty brutal.

    It's just stupid brutal with that piece.  The only luck I had was letting it set and get as hot as it would get before starting, move the tip around to ensure contact with all the cold solder, wait until I saw metal squish from under the iron and have a small pick tool to gently pry under the LED as the solder got malleable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:51:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:42:57
    Well I am desoldering the LEDs on my orbweaver so I can change the LED color and swap the blues for clears.  I have come to the conclusion that desoldering LEDs with a radio shack desoldering iron sucks.  Any tips until I can get a solder sucker?  I have tried adding solder to the stubborn ones but it is still pretty brutal.
    I would say to get some solder braid. If you don't have any, you can make some out of wire you have lying around. I have done this and it's much easier with actual desoldering braid, but my quick and dirty solution worked. I stripped some stranded copper hookup wire I had lying around, and it absorbed the solder

    Depending on the LED in question, you can add a ton of solder to it and heat up both pads at once.

    finally, if you can get a good grip on the component,  you might be able to "rock" it out be heating one pad, pulling to tone side, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 15 April 2013, 08:22:52
    Quote from: dadgh on Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:36:30
    Q: I'm looking to purchase my second mechanical keyboard and have decided on this criteria:
    • TKL
    • MX Blacks
    • Costar stabilizer
    • Detachable USB cable
    • Little to no branding
    • Stock keycaps don't matter
    • Black or White case
    • $200 budget

    Been looking at Leopolds, Filcos, and QFRs but none of these (from what I've found) offer exactly what I'm looking for. Is there something I'm missing? What's my best chance of getting all of these options?

    Thanks in advance!

    CM Rapid, then if you want a black casebody instead of gunmetal you can buy casebody only from CM store. Otherwise perhaps a Keycool?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 April 2013, 08:25:22
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:39:14
    Quote from: clakdale661 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:22:51
    Where can I find some mx green switches? I've seen some people refer to 7bit on another site, but it looks like he's international. Surely, there has to be another source of mx green switches somewhere.

    Not really, unless you want to buy a board just to harvest switches out of.  You can get an approximation of greens by combining blue stems with black springs (by buying both switches and also having ghetto reds, too and that can be accomplished easily enough through mouser) or blue stems and the heaviest of the springs sherryton sells if you're lucky enough for the transaction to go through.

    You could also get a QFR with greens. I know MechanicalKeyboards.com still has them in stock. Their warehouse has a ton of them. Unbranded too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 10:28:17
    finally managed to get the LED's out of my Orbweaver and got the switches swapped out.  Went with Reds on the WASD and clears everywhere else and I must say the feel for a gaming keypad is AMAZING.

    Just a big thank you for all the help with getting this done and I'm sure the wife will be very pleased with it as well as she couldn't stand the noise of the blues on my WASD. 

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Permeability on Mon, 15 April 2013, 12:53:58
    I want to buy some replacement spacebars from SP for the Klaxon set but not sure which family/unit size it is. Is it DCS/6.2 unit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 April 2013, 13:02:57
    Quote from: Permeability on Mon, 15 April 2013, 12:53:58
    I want to buy some replacement spacebars from SP for the Klaxon set but not sure which family/unit size it is. Is it DCS/6.2 unit?

    Believe the sizes offered were 6.25x and 7x. I think you have the correct profile as well.

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 10:28:17
    finally managed to get the LED's out of my Orbweaver and got the switches swapped out.  Went with Reds on the WASD and clears everywhere else and I must say the feel for a gaming keypad is AMAZING.

    Just a big thank you for all the help with getting this done and I'm sure the wife will be very pleased with it as well as she couldn't stand the noise of the blues on my WASD. 

    Melvang

    Pics or it didn't happen! :D And I'm glad you got your help
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:24:20
    This is an honest question because I really don't know the answer......

    For those with a tenkeyless or smaller keyboard without a dedicated delete key how do you (or do you?) press ctrl-alt-delete....

    I'm looking for a board for work and we have to use that key combo to login everytime.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:30:05
    Poker ctrl-alt-delete would be ctrl-alt-FN + Z or FN + /

    I usually right click the taskbar instead :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:44:03
    I use my Poker at work and they have the old ctrl+alt+del to logon, an extra key to press and it is right near the Fn key anyway, it's not really a problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 16:18:24


    Pics or it didn't happen! :D And I'm glad you got your help
    [/quote]

    Pics will be posted as soon as i get the LED's installed.  Missed the delivery today due to buying a car.  Got me an 03 Park Ave for under 5k
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 17:54:42
    here is the pic for ya

    Edit:  Missed the delivery for the LED's today will get them tomorrow not sure when I will get a chance to install them.  At the latest this weekend
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Capitalistix on Mon, 15 April 2013, 20:32:45
    So are MX greys non clicky Greens? I.e. do they feel the same withought the sound?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 April 2013, 20:35:56
    MX Greys are stiffer Clears.

    MX Dark Greys are stiffer Blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 April 2013, 12:45:24
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 April 2013, 17:54:42
    here is the pic for ya

    Edit:  Missed the delivery for the LED's today will get them tomorrow not sure when I will get a chance to install them.  At the latest this weekend

    Hell yeah! That looks awesome. I demand pics of the lit-up LEDs as well :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:07:52
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 14 April 2013, 09:50:16
    There used to be clicky greys with 105cN known as grey36 part number MX1A-B1NW/N. I am not entirely sure when they were discontinued but I think it was around the same time the original whites were. There were also super blues with a deep navy blue color with around 180cN but the part number is unknown to me as I have never seen it mentioned in any catalog or data sheet and may have been a special order switch.

    Cherry has the switches listed officially as brown at 55cN, clears at 65cN, while its grey39 counterpart is at 80cN. Similarly with red at 50cN, black at 60cN and grey37 at 80cN. Blue at 60cN with white and green both at 80cN.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:10:39
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:07:52
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 14 April 2013, 09:50:16
    There used to be clicky greys with 105cN known as grey36 part number MX1A-B1NW/N. I am not entirely sure when they were discontinued but I think it was around the same time the original whites were. There were also super blues with a deep navy blue color with around 180cN but the part number is unknown to me as I have never seen it mentioned in any catalog or data sheet and may have been a special order switch.

    Cherry has the switches listed officially as brown at 55cN, clears at 65cN, while its grey39 counterpart is at 80cN. Similarly with red at 50cN, black at 60cN and grey37 at 80cN. Blue at 60cN with white and green both at 80cN.

    Ivan...you're supposed to help me answer questions, not drop this behemoth on my lap!! :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:12:11
    That was me answering Capitalistix question. TLDR, green and grey have the same spring weight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:13:09
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:12:11
    That was me answering Capitalistix question. TLDR, green and grey have the same spring weight.

    I apologize oh wise Cherry master. Please forgive my transgression.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 16 April 2013, 14:58:04
    Ok maybe someone can make sense of this.

    I didn't like cherry mx reds, browns were ok, blues were nice but I couldn't handle the noise and cherry ml is tolerable.

    Where do I go next? clears maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:00:18
    Whites have less noise when they click.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:08:24
    I suggest white with light springs mod. They really are quite nice with a soft click more tactile than browns without the noise of blues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:24:49
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:12:11
    That was me answering Capitalistix question. TLDR, green and grey have the same spring weight.

    So... would a blue stem with a grey spring be pretty much identical to a green?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:50:21
    Yes, it would be the same thing except the wrong stem color naturally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:52:07
    How many Rosegold Ironman are there?


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:52:54
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:24:20
    This is an honest question because I really don't know the answer......

    For those with a tenkeyless or smaller keyboard without a dedicated delete key how do you (or do you?) press ctrl-alt-delete....

    I'm looking for a board for work and we have to use that key combo to login everytime.
    With a pure it's fn+shift

    Don't use it on linux anyway though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 April 2013, 16:01:46
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:08:24
    I suggest white with light springs mod. They really are quite nice with a soft click more tactile than browns without the noise of blues.

    I second this motion. I tried ergo-whites on the universal switch tester and they were phenomenal. I liked than way more than ergo-clears.

    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:52:07
    How many Rosegold Ironman are there?
    Gupgup

    The last sale of girldc caps on TechKeys had 10 or 20 of each set of caps. I believe anything metallic had a count of 10 and anything else had 20. But the only person who would truly know is girldc. You may want to ask this in the Team Redline subforum, in the "Post your girldc" caps, or PM girldc/someone from TeamRedline.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 16 April 2013, 16:06:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 April 2013, 16:01:46
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:08:24
    I suggest white with light springs mod. They really are quite nice with a soft click more tactile than browns without the noise of blues.

    I second this motion. I tried ergo-whites on the universal switch tester and they were phenomenal. I liked than way more than ergo-clears.

    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:52:07
    How many Rosegold Ironman are there?
    Gupgup

    The last sale of girldc caps on TechKeys had 10 or 20 of each set of caps. I believe anything metallic had a count of 10 and anything else had 20. But the only person who would truly know is girldc. You may want to ask this in the Team Redline subforum, in the "Post your girldc" caps, or PM girldc/someone from TeamRedline.

    The last sale of girldc caps on TechKeys didn't have any rosegold ironmen :/


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 April 2013, 16:22:09
    GupGup, I'm using that sale as a reference to how many were made.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 16 April 2013, 16:28:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 April 2013, 16:22:09
    GupGup, I'm using that sale as a reference to how many were made.

    Ahhhh I thought you meant how man rosegolds were made, my bad!

    I PMd girldc :D

    Thanks!


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lighthouse1 on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:01:32
    Very newbie question, how easy is replacing the top cover on a TKL Filco or CM keyboard?

    There's a thread about purchasing a coloured top for a board and I like the idea (I am lost, first it was new keys..now cases, this is like drugs) but I am not sure how difficult or otherwise it is, I build my own PCs etc so I am not completely stupid with unscrewing stuff with circuits in it, but I don't want to break my keyboards into bits accidentally.

    Thanks for answering the dumb Q!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:21:12
    Quote from: Lighthouse1 on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:01:32
    Very newbie question, how easy is replacing the top cover on a TKL Filco or CM keyboard?

    There's a thread about purchasing a coloured top for a board and I like the idea (I am lost, first it was new keys..now cases, this is like drugs) but I am not sure how difficult or otherwise it is, I build my own PCs etc so I am not completely stupid with unscrewing stuff with circuits in it, but I don't want to break my keyboards into bits accidentally.

    Thanks for answering the dumb Q!

    Hey there, I was just about to reply in the GB :D

    It is very easy! There are two little tabs you can pop up on the top and bottom of the case using a credit card or something.


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:19:34
    This isn't exactly keyboard related, but do posts on off topic not add to your post count? I noticed I have been stuck at 155 for a little while.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:23:52
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:19:34
    This isn't exactly keyboard related, but do posts on off topic not add to your post count? I noticed I have been stuck at 155 for a little while.

    >156
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:24:26
    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:21:12
    Quote from: Lighthouse1 on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:01:32
    Very newbie question, how easy is replacing the top cover on a TKL Filco or CM keyboard?

    There's a thread about purchasing a coloured top for a board and I like the idea (I am lost, first it was new keys..now cases, this is like drugs) but I am not sure how difficult or otherwise it is, I build my own PCs etc so I am not completely stupid with unscrewing stuff with circuits in it, but I don't want to break my keyboards into bits accidentally.

    Thanks for answering the dumb Q!

    Hey there, I was just about to reply in the GB :D

    It is very easy! There are two little tabs you can pop up on the top and bottom of the case using a credit card or something.


    Gupgup

    Don't forget one screw in the bottom of the case.

    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:19:34
    This isn't exactly keyboard related, but do posts on off topic not add to your post count? I noticed I have been stuck at 155 for a little while.

    Depends on which thread, I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:34:29
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:19:34
    This isn't exactly keyboard related, but do posts on off topic not add to your post count? I noticed I have been stuck at 155 for a little while.

    No they dont.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:40:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:34:29
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:19:34
    This isn't exactly keyboard related, but do posts on off topic not add to your post count? I noticed I have been stuck at 155 for a little while.

    No they dont.

    Ok, that makes sense then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lighthouse1 on Wed, 17 April 2013, 09:59:54
    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:21:12
    Quote from: Lighthouse1 on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:01:32
    Very newbie question, how easy is replacing the top cover on a TKL Filco or CM keyboard?

    There's a thread about purchasing a coloured top for a board and I like the idea (I am lost, first it was new keys..now cases, this is like drugs) but I am not sure how difficult or otherwise it is, I build my own PCs etc so I am not completely stupid with unscrewing stuff with circuits in it, but I don't want to break my keyboards into bits accidentally.

    Thanks for answering the dumb Q!

    Hey there, I was just about to reply in the GB :D

    It is very easy! There are two little tabs you can pop up on the top and bottom of the case using a credit card or something.


    Gupgup

    Excellent thanks, I asked here as after I posted in your GB thread I thought it was a really stupid question! Thanks for the answer and now for the order form!

    Thanks also to tjcaustin I would have been there breaking my credit card without the screw info. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:06:06
    Quote from: Lighthouse1 on Wed, 17 April 2013, 09:59:54
    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:21:12
    Quote from: Lighthouse1 on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:01:32
    Very newbie question, how easy is replacing the top cover on a TKL Filco or CM keyboard?

    There's a thread about purchasing a coloured top for a board and I like the idea (I am lost, first it was new keys..now cases, this is like drugs) but I am not sure how difficult or otherwise it is, I build my own PCs etc so I am not completely stupid with unscrewing stuff with circuits in it, but I don't want to break my keyboards into bits accidentally.

    Thanks for answering the dumb Q!

    Hey there, I was just about to reply in the GB :D

    It is very easy! There are two little tabs you can pop up on the top and bottom of the case using a credit card or something.


    Gupgup

    Excellent thanks, I asked here as after I posted in your GB thread I thought it was a really stupid question! Thanks for the answer and now for the order form!

    Thanks also to tjcaustin I would have been there breaking my credit card without the screw info. :)

    There are very few stupid questions. I made this thread so that people could freely ask things and I could learn in the process. No worries man :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lighthouse1 on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:08:21
    Excellent, its very useful to have somewhere to noob  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:09:45
    Quote from: Lighthouse1 on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:08:21
    Excellent, its very useful to have somewhere to noob  :D

    Just FYI, I'm pretty new myself. Only been on GH for 4 months. I just spam like I'm trying to catch SmallFry in the post race.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:27:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:09:45
    Quote from: Lighthouse1 on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:08:21
    Excellent, its very useful to have somewhere to noob  :D

    Just FYI, I'm pretty new myself. Only been on GH for 4 months. I just spam like I'm trying to catch SmallFry in the post race.
    Your tries are futile young one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:28:44
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:27:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:09:45
    Quote from: Lighthouse1 on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:08:21
    Excellent, its very useful to have somewhere to noob  :D

    Just FYI, I'm pretty new myself. Only been on GH for 4 months. I just spam like I'm trying to catch SmallFry in the post race.
    Your tries are futile young one.

    As my keyboard professor, you're supposed to encourage me. Not tell me my efforts are futile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:34:14
     If I'm looking at keyboards on a site like buychina.com or offerany.com i know that tea axis = brown and most say that green actually means blue so how do I find green?

    And no I haven't been drinking....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:37:57
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:34:14
    If I'm looking at keyboards on a site like buychina.com or offerany.com i know that tea axis = brown and most say that green actually means blue so how do I find green?

    And no I haven't been drinking....

    Why not use google translate to get the word for brown or green and then search for it on taobao?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:41:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:37:57
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:34:14
    If I'm looking at keyboards on a site like buychina.com or offerany.com i know that tea axis = brown and most say that green actually means blue so how do I find green?

    And no I haven't been drinking....

    Why not use google translate to get the word for brown or green and then search for it on taobao?

    Did that and so far it only seems to be getting be backlighting colors....not switch colors
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:47:07
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:41:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:37:57
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:34:14
    If I'm looking at keyboards on a site like buychina.com or offerany.com i know that tea axis = brown and most say that green actually means blue so how do I find green?

    And no I haven't been drinking....

    Why not use google translate to get the word for brown or green and then search for it on taobao?

    Did that and so far it only seems to be getting be backlighting colors....not switch colors

    Jocelyn, didn't you post something on how to search Taobao somewhere? Can you help me out? :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:57:06
    http://www.offerany.com/p-16969507670-87-108-Keyboard-37-Hat.html

    Well I found this one and one of the options is "Blu-ray ONE108 milk axis" so that would most likely be a full size board with white switches....

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:52:55
    Could someone post a pic of the switch housing disassembly tool that The_Beast sold through his GB?  The pics on the thread are all broken aside from one that just shows the end of them. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:52:55
    Could someone post a pic of the switch housing disassembly tool that The_Beast sold through his GB?  The pics on the thread are all broken aside from one that just shows the end of them.

    I got a set over the weekend. I'll take pics for you later.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:18:55
    cool thanx
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Wed, 17 April 2013, 13:36:46
    is there a "how to" for posting an embedded you tube video on Geekhack?  (like for the "what are you listening to now thread")
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Wed, 17 April 2013, 13:48:12
    Quote from: mushupork on Wed, 17 April 2013, 13:36:46
    is there a "how to" for posting an embedded you tube video on Geekhack?  (like for the "what are you listening to now thread")

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Wed, 17 April 2013, 13:57:44
    Yes, I see the button but it does not appear to work.

    Find video, copy URL, click You Tube button, paste URL, all you get is the following line of text ... no embedded video

    Not a valid youtube URL
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:00:17
    You MUST use the short url youtu.be/whatever or it won't work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mushupork on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:05:22
    Excellent - thanks Ivan
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:15:55
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:00:17
    You MUST use the short url youtu.be/whatever or it won't work.

    I've tried that a couple of times, and the post does show a blank "video" window.  Only one problem, there's no video.  Gives me an "unexpected error, try again later" message when I click on it.

     :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:34:04
    I post music videos and stuff all the time, never had any problem.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:36:08

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Wed, 17 April 2013, 15:26:54
    For me, the URL works....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 15:55:05
    Quote from: Greystoke on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:36:08

    It's not working for me. But I think it's because it needs to be setup differently.

    [youtube|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smmtzejfpZ8&feature=share&list=PL2C14538D781116FE[/youtube]

    If you eliminate that portion then try it. It should work.

    So use [youtube|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smmtzejfpZ8[/youtube] instead. (Replace the | with ])
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 April 2013, 16:36:45
    Which is why I say just use the short link, you don't have to edit it and it works every time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Wed, 17 April 2013, 16:42:19
    What size is the right SHIFT key on the pure?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=307 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=307)

    Is it a 1x1.5?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 April 2013, 16:42:46
    1.75
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Wed, 17 April 2013, 16:45:42
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 April 2013, 16:42:46
    1.75

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:36:55
    Any news on the Poker X or Poker 2?

    Other than Soon(TM).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:37:48
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:36:55
    Any news on the Poker X or Poker 2?

    Other than Soon(TM).

    No hurry, but when can I have my stuff back? lol :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:38:03
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:36:55
    Any news on the Poker X or Poker 2?

    Other than Soon(TM).

    I haven't heard anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:42:54
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:37:48
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:36:55
    Any news on the Poker X or Poker 2?

    Other than Soon(TM).

    No hurry, but when can I have my stuff back? lol :)

    Oh snap! Probably Friday afternoon. Is that okay?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:43:59
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:42:54
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 17 April 2013, 19:37:48
    No hurry, but when can I have my stuff back? lol :)

    Oh snap! Probably Friday afternoon. Is that okay?

    Lol, it can be later than that. I just wanted to touch base :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 20:19:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:52:55
    Could someone post a pic of the switch housing disassembly tool that The_Beast sold through his GB?  The pics on the thread are all broken aside from one that just shows the end of them.

    I got a set over the weekend. I'll take pics for you later.

    (http://i.imgur.com/ypMBPID.jpg)

    Beast said that the ends need to be bent in a vice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:35:32
    Could someone provide me with a link to the teamredline website? I'm having trouble finding it.


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:37:54
    Quote from: Gupgup on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:35:32
    Could someone provide me with a link to the teamredline website? I'm having trouble finding it.


    Gupgup

    http://www.red-line.kr/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:40:30
    Quote from: Gupgup on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:35:32
    Could someone provide me with a link to the teamredline website? I'm having trouble finding it.


    Gupgup

    They also have this page in the vendor forum (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40906.msg814593#msg814593).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:41:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 20:19:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:52:55
    Could someone post a pic of the switch housing disassembly tool that The_Beast sold through his GB?  The pics on the thread are all broken aside from one that just shows the end of them.

    I got a set over the weekend. I'll take pics for you later.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ypMBPID.jpg)


    Beast said that the ends need to be bent in a vice.

    Vices??  Where we're going,  we don't need vices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:42:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:40:30
    Quote from: Gupgup on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:35:32
    Could someone provide me with a link to the teamredline website? I'm having trouble finding it.


    Gupgup

    They also have this page in the vendor forum (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40906.msg814593#msg814593).

    Thanks! Do you know if that Cherry Dye sub GB is still able to get in on? I don't speak that language (not sure which it is)


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:43:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:41:09
    Vices??  Where we're going,  we don't need vices.

    Hahaha, ok muscles :P



    Quote from: Gupgup on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:42:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:40:30
    Quote from: Gupgup on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:35:32
    Could someone provide me with a link to the teamredline website? I'm having trouble finding it.


    Gupgup

    They also have this page in the vendor forum (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40906.msg814593#msg814593).

    Thanks! Do you know if that Cherry Dye sub GB is still able to get in on? I don't speak that language (not sure which it is)


    Gupgup

    It's Korean and I have no idea.

    According to the active GB list found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31483.0), it is not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:58:22
    What did that switch tool cost on the GB out of curiosity?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xredman on Thu, 18 April 2013, 01:26:57
    Is this a good deal? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3733684092.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Thu, 18 April 2013, 01:31:55
    Quote from: xredman on Thu, 18 April 2013, 01:26:57
    Is this a good deal? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3733684092.html

    I would say so! If you can local pick that up for $10-15, I would definitely go for it!

    I believe that it would have black alps in there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 06:06:38
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:58:22
    What did that switch tool cost on the GB out of curiosity?

    I believe it at less than $20.

    Quote from: xredman on Thu, 18 April 2013, 01:26:57
    Is this a good deal? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3733684092.html

    Yes but please use the "What's it worth" thread for pricing questions in the future. As Halverson said, it should have Tactile Black Alps...although Akimbo just had one with Salmon Alps. And I paid $33 for my Dell AT101W.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: file_id on Thu, 18 April 2013, 06:28:26
    What are the difference between a Poker and Pure? I understand Poker is discontinued and the pure is the replacement? Is the Poker 2 the successor the the Pure?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 07:04:29
    Quote from: file_id on Thu, 18 April 2013, 06:28:26
    What are the difference between a Poker and Pure? I understand Poker is discontinued and the pure is the replacement? Is the Poker 2 the successor the the Pure?

    The Poker and the Pure are two different keyboards. They have a slightly different layout and the Pures come both backlit and non backlit forms. You can refer to this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg842741#msg842741) to get pictures and compare the layouts. The main difference is that the Pure has a short right shift and 1x key to the right of the shift.

    The Poker Pure is the successor to the Poker 1 but they changed the layout to something completely different. I think everyone was boggled when that was shown.

    And yes, the Poker itself is discontinued.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: missalaire on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:43:00
    Anyone know approx how much it would cost to ship a small set of key caps (37 key set) from the US to Canada? With the cheapest option that includes tracking?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:43:48
    Quote from: missalaire on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:43:00
    Anyone know approx how much it would cost to ship a small set of key caps (37 key set) from the US to Canada? With the cheapest option that includes tracking?

    Halverson, you should know this. Help me out!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:46:31
    Shipping internationally via USPS can't be done with tracking, AFAIK (or at least as far as I was led to believe).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:46:58
    Quote from: missalaire on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:43:00
    Anyone know approx how much it would cost to ship a small set of key caps (37 key set) from the US to Canada? With the cheapest option that includes tracking?

    Probably about $9-10. And the only tracking available is the customs form number. You will get limited tracking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:01:09
    Hm. Called for Halverson to back me up and got Moose and JDCarpe....wonder what happens if I call for JDCarpe's backup...:P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:06:45
    You rang?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:13:39
    Perfect. This system is flawless. Carry on Moose :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: missalaire on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:23:25
    Hm alright. Thanks for the replies esoomenona and jdcarpre.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jagriff on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:27:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:52:55
    Could someone post a pic of the switch housing disassembly tool that The_Beast sold through his GB?  The pics on the thread are all broken aside from one that just shows the end of them.

    I got a set over the weekend. I'll take pics for you later.
    How did you get a set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:29:05
    Quote from: Jagriff on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:27:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:52:55
    Could someone post a pic of the switch housing disassembly tool that The_Beast sold through his GB?  The pics on the thread are all broken aside from one that just shows the end of them.

    I got a set over the weekend. I'll take pics for you later.
    How did you get a set?

    I gave him a set since he helped me a lot with my case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:30:47
    Quote from: The_Beast on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:29:05
    Quote from: Jagriff on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:27:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:52:55
    Could someone post a pic of the switch housing disassembly tool that The_Beast sold through his GB?  The pics on the thread are all broken aside from one that just shows the end of them.

    I got a set over the weekend. I'll take pics for you later.
    How did you get a set?

    I gave him a set since he helped me a lot with my case

    And because The_Beast is super generous and I got to meet him at the Chicago meet. Thanks again buddy. Happy to help :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jagriff on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:34:01
    That leads to another question... are there any sets for sale?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:35:16
    You can get international tracking if you send it registered but it cost like $12 more on top of the first class rate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:37:29
    Quote from: Jagriff on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:34:01
    That leads to another question... are there any sets for sale?

    I believe The_Beast said he will be running a 2nd GB at some point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:37:53
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:35:16
    You can get international tracking if you send it registered but it cost like $12 more on top of the first class rate.
    I take it post office workers don't like to send things registered being that they never offer that or deny it exists.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:40:35
    I am sure many of them hate registered because they have to do a bunch of typing in the computer. They loathe anything with extra work involved.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:41:38
    Registered still only gives you the same customs number. The recipient just has to sign for the package.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:45:53
    No, registered has it's own number which has nothing to do with customs form number and is trackable across borders. Even with countries that don't update tracking properly you get delivery confirmation at a minimum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:53:46
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:40:35
    I am sure many of them hate registered because they have to do a bunch of typing in the computer. They loathe anything with extra work involved.

    Maybe the problem is what the problem always is.....they are using the wrong keyboards!


    On topic...

    I know its not mechanical but the Logitech K750 uses scissor switches right?  :-[

    EDIT: Yes it uses scissor switches....wonder what it would take to get a keyboard just like the K750....wireless and solar powered but using ML switches  :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 18 April 2013, 13:09:55
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:45:53
    No, registered has it's own number which has nothing to do with customs form number and is trackable across borders. Even with countries that don't update tracking properly you get delivery confirmation at a minimum.

    Oh, okay. I didn't know that. What about with GXG? Have you ever sent something that way? Does it update tracking?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 13:30:16
    They use G80-11900 at my post office, so it should be a pleasure for them typing!

    I don't know about GXG, it is too expensive for me to even have considered using it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 13:35:55
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:53:46
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:40:35
    I am sure many of them hate registered because they have to do a bunch of typing in the computer. They loathe anything with extra work involved.
    I know its not mechanical but the Logitech K750 uses scissor switches right?  :-[

    EDIT: Yes it uses scissor switches....wonder what it would take to get a keyboard just like the K750....wireless and solar powered but using ML switches  :eek:

    There's a GH60 project to go wireless and dante's been spearheading an ML board project. You can search for those projects if you want to look into it more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 18 April 2013, 14:34:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 13:35:55
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:53:46
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:40:35
    I am sure many of them hate registered because they have to do a bunch of typing in the computer. They loathe anything with extra work involved.
    I know its not mechanical but the Logitech K750 uses scissor switches right?  :-[

    EDIT: Yes it uses scissor switches....wonder what it would take to get a keyboard just like the K750....wireless and solar powered but using ML switches  :eek:

    There's a GH60 project to go wireless and dante's been spearheading an ML board project. You can search for those projects if you want to look into it more.

    I just read through those threads thanks for pointing them out.....so much goodness around here   ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 April 2013, 14:44:08
    Quote from: Gupgup on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:42:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:40:30
    Quote from: Gupgup on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:35:32
    Could someone provide me with a link to the teamredline website? I'm having trouble finding it.


    Gupgup

    They also have this page in the vendor forum (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40906.msg814593#msg814593).
    Thanks! Do you know if that Cherry Dye sub GB is still able to get in on? I don't speak that language (not sure which it is)

    Gupgup

    GupGup, were you talking about this GB? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42298.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:16:42
    So what is the heaviest most tactile and or clicky MX switch that I could actually hope to acquire 2 of from the classifieds?

    Edit:..  Are there any boards out that are smaller than TKL with dedicated arrow keys, no F-row, no keys to the right of the Backspace and programmable?  It's hard to keep up with all the different boards out especially when one is this to to the industry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:27:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:16:42
    So what is the heaviest most tactile and or clicky MX switch that I could actually hope to acquire 2 of from the classifieds?

    Edit:..  Are there any boards out that are smaller than TKL with dedicated arrow keys, no F-row, no keys to the right of the Backspace and programmable?  It's hard to keep up with all the different boards out especially when one is this to to the industry.

    1) You could try and find superblacks which are insanity but linear/tactile greys are probably more reasonable. For me, whites, greens, and blacks are the heaviest I'd want to go.

    2) 75% boards are what you'd want to look into; boards like the Race or the MX-mini or the new Leopold 660s

    Let me know if you want me to find links for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:54:08
    This is what I would LOVE to have any idea if it exists or would I have to modify an existing design? 

    Which one would get me the closest and having a programmable function layer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:58:52
    A Race, Choc Mini, and MX Mini are all boards that come to mind that have a very similar layout to that. AFAIK, the MX-Mini is the only one that can be programmable since it's a Korean Custom. The Race and Choc Mini are boards made by Vortex and Noppoo respectively. The boards I listed are typically called 75% boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 19 April 2013, 10:17:54
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:54:08
    This is what I would LOVE to have any idea if it exists or would I have to modify an existing design? 

    Which one would get me the closest and having a programmable function layer?

    GH60++ 65% Edition... :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Sat, 20 April 2013, 01:23:54
    CC wasd cluster is oem profile right? Also, are there any cool oem profile sets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: naokira on Sat, 20 April 2013, 07:41:27
    Will a QFR top cover will fit a ducky YoTD? only the top cover
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 08:09:42
    Quote from: llovro on Sat, 20 April 2013, 01:23:54
    CC wasd cluster is oem profile right? Also, are there any cool oem profile sets?

    Yes, I am fairly confident based on my own experience with ClickClacks that they're OEM profile. I saw some Clacks at the last Chicago meetup. I don't know if they're OEM but I can tell you about other WASD sets. I recently got R3 gamer set in orange. It also comes in lime green.

    (http://i.imgur.com/BTkp8uL.jpg)

    I know BroBots had a WASD kit that matched his BroBot caps. Those looked pretty cool. Jocelyn has a set and she said it was really nice. I'm not sure on the profile, maybe she'll see this and chime in. I've also seen Feng/Qtan carry some sets that are side print and in fun colors.

    I know you asked for OEM profile but I don't know the profile of most of the WASD kits so I just thought I'd point some out for you.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 20 April 2013, 09:58:39
    CC cluster is closer to SP profile, Bro-bots cluster is slightly shorter, closer to Cherry profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 10:18:28
    Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 20 April 2013, 09:58:39
    CC cluster is closer to SP profile, Bro-bots cluster is slightly shorter, closer to Cherry profile.

    The knowledge bombs. I has them now. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Sat, 20 April 2013, 10:26:36
    What is the cheapest keyboard with Cherry Browns, Clears, or Reds with only one key profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 10:30:19
    Quote from: ping111 on Sat, 20 April 2013, 10:26:36
    What is the cheapest keyboard with Cherry Browns, Clears, or Reds with only one key profile?

    I don't think theres a uniform key profile board out there. The last time I saw a uniform key profile was Matt30's Retro DSA GB. Pics of those caps and his custom board can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42302.msg859015#msg859015).

    In terms of cheapest keyboards, keep an eye out for QFR sales. Missalaire is usually good at posting good deals and I've seen QFRs go for $55 new. And if it helps, I got my BlackWidow for $55 but it had blues. And I did see a BlackWidow NIB somewhere for like $14. Can't remember if that was eBay or not though.

    Edit: Speak of the devil....
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42601.new;topicseen#new
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:09:49
     008 Buna-N O-Ring, 50A Durometer, Round, Black, 3/16" ID, 5/16" OD, 1/16" Width (Pack of 125)

    http://www.amazon.com/008-Buna-N-O-Ring-Durometer-Round/dp/B0051XWXCE/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_text_y

    Can someone tell if me if these are the right size for either ducky oem abs and/or using with imsto thick pbt keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:13:18
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:09:49
    008 Buna-N O-Ring, 50A Durometer, Round, Black, 3/16" ID, 5/16" OD, 1/16" Width (Pack of 125)

    http://www.amazon.com/008-Buna-N-O-Ring-Durometer-Round/dp/B0051XWXCE/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_text_y

    Can someone tell if me if these are the right size for either ducky oem abs and/or using with imsto thick pbt keycaps?

    I'm not sure about the IDs and OD but do the Ducky OEM caps have cross-bars underneath? I know the Imsto ones do. Without the cross bars, the o-rings won't sound dampen or reduce travel as much. I made that mistake in my O-ring review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:14:58
    There are not a lot of flat profile boards. Maybe you can find clear version of TG3 BL82 but they usually have blacks, or otherwise perhaps G80-3800 with red or brown would be suitable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:24:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:13:18
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:09:49
    008 Buna-N O-Ring, 50A Durometer, Round, Black, 3/16" ID, 5/16" OD, 1/16" Width (Pack of 125)

    http://www.amazon.com/008-Buna-N-O-Ring-Durometer-Round/dp/B0051XWXCE/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_text_y

    Can someone tell if me if these are the right size for either ducky oem abs and/or using with imsto thick pbt keycaps?

    I'm not sure about the IDs and OD but do the Ducky OEM caps have cross-bars underneath? I know the Imsto ones do. Without the cross bars, the o-rings won't sound dampen or reduce travel as much. I made that mistake in my O-ring review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0).

    Well in that case I'd better just get the keyboard and go from there. I can always customize later. Right?  :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:27:29
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:24:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:13:18
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:09:49
    008 Buna-N O-Ring, 50A Durometer, Round, Black, 3/16" ID, 5/16" OD, 1/16" Width (Pack of 125)

    http://www.amazon.com/008-Buna-N-O-Ring-Durometer-Round/dp/B0051XWXCE/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_text_y

    Can someone tell if me if these are the right size for either ducky oem abs and/or using with imsto thick pbt keycaps?

    I'm not sure about the IDs and OD but do the Ducky OEM caps have cross-bars underneath? I know the Imsto ones do. Without the cross bars, the o-rings won't sound dampen or reduce travel as much. I made that mistake in my O-ring review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0).

    Well in that case I'd better just get the keyboard and go from there. I can always customize later. Right?  :confused:

    Once you get your board, you can definitely customize later. No need to get it all at once...and trust me, you'll customize it. You'll see something here you LOVE and a few months later, you'll have 5 boards, three of which are completely custom :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:36:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:27:29
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:24:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:13:18
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:09:49
    008 Buna-N O-Ring, 50A Durometer, Round, Black, 3/16" ID, 5/16" OD, 1/16" Width (Pack of 125)

    http://www.amazon.com/008-Buna-N-O-Ring-Durometer-Round/dp/B0051XWXCE/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_text_y

    Can someone tell if me if these are the right size for either ducky oem abs and/or using with imsto thick pbt keycaps?

    I'm not sure about the IDs and OD but do the Ducky OEM caps have cross-bars underneath? I know the Imsto ones do. Without the cross bars, the o-rings won't sound dampen or reduce travel as much. I made that mistake in my O-ring review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0).

    Well in that case I'd better just get the keyboard and go from there. I can always customize later. Right?  :confused:

    Once you get your board, you can definitely customize later. No need to get it all at once...and trust me, you'll customize it. You'll see something here you LOVE and a few months later, you'll have 5 boards, three of which are completely custom :P

    Yes I really see this being a slippery slope....I ran across the green gasmask keycap and thought.....that would look really awesome!

    Wait what am I saying.....who pays $25 for a keycap....... :eek: oh wait that's cheap because at least its not $250 and will be $5 soon.....yeah I've been reading way too many threads

    Now if I only there was a micro-transmitter that plugged into the mini-usb of the keyboard and another that plugged into the pc to make wired keyboard wireless.....anybody?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:43:54
    will i get a clack tonight?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:44:13
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:36:42
    Now if I only there was a micro-transmitter that plugged into the mini-usb of the keyboard and another that plugged into the pc to make wired keyboard wireless.....anybody?

    Check the GH60 Wireless thread to see how they're working that out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:44:43
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:36:42
    Now if I only there was a micro-transmitter that plugged into the mini-usb of the keyboard and another that plugged into the pc to make wired keyboard wireless.....anybody?

    Check the GH60 Wireless thread to see how they're working that out.

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:43:54
    will i get a clack tonight?

    Wrong thread. Go post in the Church of Halverson thread. He will answer your desires :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:51:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:44:43

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:43:54
    will i get a clack tonight?

    Wrong thread. Go post in the Church of Halverson thread. He will answer your desires :P

    how should i address him? title? priest?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:58:23
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:51:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:44:43

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:43:54
    will i get a clack tonight?

    Wrong thread. Go post in the Church of Halverson thread. He will answer your desires :P

    how should i address him? title? priest?

    How you address The Girlshark Wizbro is between you and him. I always call him Sharky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Permeability on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:58:56
    Are Filco/QFR controllers interchangeable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:01:05
    Quote from: Permeability on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:58:56
    Are Filco/QFR controllers interchangeable?
    No.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cyberwave on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:01:53
    Quote from: Permeability on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:58:56
    Are Filco/QFR controllers interchangeable?

    nope.
    Filco
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/a/ab/Filco_Majestouch_TKL_controller_bottom.jpg)

    QFR
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/1/1b/CM_Storm_QFR_Controller_bottom_view.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:05:29
    Quote from: naokira on Sat, 20 April 2013, 07:41:27
    Will a QFR top cover will fit a ducky YoTD? only the top cover

    The Spock has spoken and said that this is highly improbable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:09:54
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:51:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:44:43

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:43:54
    will i get a clack tonight?

    Wrong thread. Go post in the Church of Halverson thread. He will answer your desires :P

    how should i address him? title? priest?

    You call him halverson.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:22:31
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:09:54
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:51:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:44:43

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:43:54
    will i get a clack tonight?

    Wrong thread. Go post in the Church of Halverson thread. He will answer your desires :P

    how should i address him? title? priest?

    You call him halverson.

    understood
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:49:20
    How heavy are Topre 55g in comparison to cherry mx switches? Do they compare most to blacks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:51:29
    http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7253/dsc0481ef.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7253/dsc0481ef.jpg)

    where can i buy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:57:12
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:51:29
    http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7253/dsc0481ef.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7253/dsc0481ef.jpg)

    where can i buy

    Pretty sure those are from the What You Got in the Mail pics thread and the picture owner said those were from TaoBao.


    Quote from: Rule16 on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:49:20
    How heavy are Topre 55g in comparison to cherry mx switches? Do they compare most to blacks?

    I think they were a little lighter than black in terms of actuation but I don't like Topre switches so I'm a bad person to ask. Plus this is a little subjective
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 20 April 2013, 13:03:34
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:51:29
    http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7253/dsc0481ef.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7253/dsc0481ef.jpg)

    where can i buy

    Those are pretty sweet...

    Just  quick google I found this

    http://usb.brando.com/buffalo-usb-curled-cable-a-to-mini-b-_p01909c032d015.html

    Out of stock but maybe gives you a direction....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 13:06:13
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 13:03:34
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:51:29
    http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7253/dsc0481ef.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7253/dsc0481ef.jpg)

    where can i buy

    Those are pretty sweet...

    Just  quick google I found this

    http://usb.brando.com/buffalo-usb-curled-cable-a-to-mini-b-_p01909c032d015.html

    Out of stock but maybe gives you a direction....

    thank you! i saw these buffalos when i started my serach, and will probably be picking them up when they go in stock,

    i think the buffalos and the curl cables look nearly the same
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 20 April 2013, 14:07:09
    Would it be safe to assume that the polarity on the pads for the LED's in the Orbweaver to be the same across the board?

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 20 April 2013, 14:12:51
    Anode side should be where the A is marked on the LED hole always.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 20 April 2013, 14:18:02
    The LED pads on the orbweaver are not labled but i just checked with a new LED and they are all the same polarity with positive (long leg on new LED) being on the right side of the board when right side up

    Edit:  Time to start putting LEDs back in my Orbweaver of the blue variety.  Pics to follow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 20 April 2013, 14:27:59
    Can someone tell me where I can go in the settings to change the colors of the forum? I was a link in the top 'news' feed one day but didn't click it.....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 20 April 2013, 14:33:11
    Profile, account settings, modify profile (pop up menu) > look and layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 20 April 2013, 15:31:14
    When ordering LED's in bulk (125) is it normal to get one or 2 in the lot that don't work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Sat, 20 April 2013, 15:48:07
    Does anyone know when the darth vader click clacks were sold?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 20 April 2013, 15:57:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 20 April 2013, 15:31:14
    When ordering LED's in bulk (125) is it normal to get one or 2 in the lot that don't work?
    I guess it wold depend on where you ordered them from (and specifically the sort of OEM that made them in the first place). Last time I ordered led's from eBay, I got some extra just in case. All mine worked, but I was expecting them not to. but if I order a reel of expensive flashlight LEDs from cree, I'd expect them to work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:04:03
    If I swap the LEDs on my Filco MJ2 with ones off eBay (3mm with 3.2-3.4v) would I need to do any additional modifications? Or would these just be a quick swap?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:10:35
    Alright thanx.  I ordered 125 of these from Digi-Key at $0.33 each after shipping
    WP710A10QBC/D
    754-1596-ND is the Digi Key number
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:51:41
    Sorry bout the double post but here is a pic of my orbweaver with blue LED's MX Reds on the "WASD" and MX Clears everywhere else.

    A HUGE thanx to all you guys.  I never would have been able to do this without you.

    Edit: Brightness on the LED's is maxxed out the font is much easier to read in person
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 20 April 2013, 19:53:39
    What colors do CC WASD + Skull sets come in besides Mint Gum?

    PS - I haven't won anything yet :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 20 April 2013, 19:54:43
    I've seen Octopink and Candy Corn ones, as well as Splats. I'm sure there are others.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 20 April 2013, 22:36:37
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 20 April 2013, 19:53:39
    What colors do CC WASD + Skull sets come in besides Mint Gum?

    PS - I haven't won anything yet :)

    Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 20 April 2013, 19:54:43
    I've seen Octopink and Candy Corn ones, as well as Splats. I'm sure there are others.

    P1 purple and orangesicle as well. Also, there's another shade of green in the CC wiki.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 20 April 2013, 22:40:20
    Thank You for the replies esoomenona & Turbo Slaab :)

    You mentioned there's another shade of green in the CC wiki, but it looks like Mint Green and Green (Asparagus) are the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 22:44:30
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 20 April 2013, 22:40:20
    Thank You for the replies esoomenona & Turbo Slaab :)

    You mentioned there's another shade of green in the CC wiki, but it looks like Mint Green and Green (Asparagus) are the same.

    They are the same. Mint Green is the color that CC calls them. Green is the shade of green I got from wikipedia. The actual color green. And eth0s has a WASD set with a Skull that's octopink. It looks super hot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 20 April 2013, 22:45:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 April 2013, 22:44:30
    They are the same. Mint Green is the color that CC calls them. Green is the shade of green I got from wikipedia. The actual color green. And eth0s has a WASD set with a Skull that's octopink. It looks super hot.

    I figured it was something like that. Thank You :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 20 April 2013, 22:52:49
    Best WASD is bet.

    (http://i.imgur.com/nMfkz6p.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 20 April 2013, 22:58:43
    I like that candy corn! The orange on mine is really dark, almost red.....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 23:00:25
    stop moose!  :(

    you make me soo sad haha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 20 April 2013, 23:08:28
    Hush, little baby. Don't say a word.
    Moosie's gonna type on his clacks some more.
    And if that Candy Corn turns red
    Moose is gonna find Slaab and off with his head.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 23:18:24
    Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 20 April 2013, 23:08:28
    Hush, little baby. Don't say a word.
    Moosie's gonna type on his clacks some more.
    And if that Candy Corn turns red
    Moose is gonna find Slaab and off with his head.

    hehe
    that nursery rhyme has me in tears
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 20 April 2013, 23:22:29
    Lmao
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Sun, 21 April 2013, 08:45:50
    I'm thinking to switch the Caps Lock and Backspace keys on my QFR. Just learning touch typing and read about it somewhere, and it seems like an excellent idea. The problem is, on this keyboard Caps Lock has a led in it, and the keys don't even match.
    Any idea how could I proceed? Guess I could just switch them from software, the label will be very annoying but only as long as I look at it, but the led would be annoying.
    Anyone with some experience on how to solve this? Maybe I can just disconnect the led? Didn't look under the key so far, wouldn't want to break something, not sure how the led is connected...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: best.eu on Sun, 21 April 2013, 08:58:32
    Quote from: Bencze on Sun, 21 April 2013, 08:45:50
    I'm thinking to switch the Caps Lock and Backspace keys on my QFR. Just learning touch typing and read about it somewhere, and it seems like an excellent idea. The problem is, on this keyboard Caps Lock has a led in it, and the keys don't even match.
    Any idea how could I proceed? Guess I could just switch them from software, the label will be very annoying but only as long as I look at it, but the led would be annoying.
    Anyone with some experience on how to solve this? Maybe I can just disconnect the led? Didn't look under the key so far, wouldn't want to break something, not sure how the led is connected...

    You could just put some tape over the led really.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Sun, 21 April 2013, 09:00:03
    Quote from: Bencze on Sun, 21 April 2013, 08:45:50
    I'm thinking to switch the Caps Lock and Backspace keys on my QFR. Just learning touch typing and read about it somewhere, and it seems like an excellent idea. The problem is, on this keyboard Caps Lock has a led in it, and the keys don't even match.
    Any idea how could I proceed? Guess I could just switch them from software, the label will be very annoying but only as long as I look at it, but the led would be annoying.
    Anyone with some experience on how to solve this? Maybe I can just disconnect the led? Didn't look under the key so far, wouldn't want to break something, not sure how the led is connected...
    You know that just switching the keycaps won't change the input, right?  I switched my capslock and my backspace a while ago, but I did it only on software.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Sun, 21 April 2013, 09:03:11
    Quote from: ping111 on Sun, 21 April 2013, 09:00:03
    You know that just switching the keycaps won't change the input, right?  I switched my capslock and my backspace a while ago, but I did it only on software.

    I can switch from software and that works somewhat. But for starters I will keep pressing them vice versa.
    Ideal solution would be to get a backspace key that says caps lock and a caps lock key that says backspace :) not sure if there is such a thing. Maybe blank key caps for both, but I am not sure whether I can buy 2 keys somewhere.
    A bit worse solution is to disable caps lock led.
    A bit worse to just tape it off as suggested, or ignore it, not too elegant...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 21 April 2013, 10:25:56
    Quote from: Bencze on Sun, 21 April 2013, 09:03:11
    Quote from: ping111 on Sun, 21 April 2013, 09:00:03
    You know that just switching the keycaps won't change the input, right?  I switched my capslock and my backspace a while ago, but I did it only on software.

    I can switch from software and that works somewhat. But for starters I will keep pressing them vice versa.
    Ideal solution would be to get a backspace key that says caps lock and a caps lock key that says backspace :) not sure if there is such a thing. Maybe blank key caps for both, but I am not sure whether I can buy 2 keys somewhere.
    A bit worse solution is to disable caps lock led.
    A bit worse to just tape it off as suggested, or ignore it, not too elegant...

    You would have to get custom caps made and I believe the only WASD keyboards would do custom caps where you could swap the texts on a Caps Lock and Backspace. I'm sure getting just 2 caps done would be a pain and the shipping from California to Hungary would probably be a nightmare. You could try asking around for people who have Blank/Otaku sets and see if they'll part with their Backspace/Delete.

    Since you're in the EU, you could check out QWERKeys and see if they offer any solutions for your problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:02:21
    Was the Sanctuary set ABS or PBT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:04:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:02:21
    Was the Sanctuary set ABS or PBT?

    Both I think
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:14:28
    Depends on which version it is.  I think there was a Korean spec ed that was dye-subbed PBT and the one done here which was DS abs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:15:09
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:04:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:02:21
    Was the Sanctuary set ABS or PBT?

    Both I think

    Yes you're right. There was a Dyesub PBT and a Doubleshot ABS set.

    Damnit KingKlaxon, why you post so fast :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:15:56
    The dye sub kit was sold only with the LZ-SE's. 150 sets, and I believe $150 but not positive on the price.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:35:54
    how many switches should i order for my winkeyless GH60?

    i counted 58 for a winkeyless setup, but is that correct?

    and then for a 1.5x layout, how many switches should i order?

    i counted 60...amirite there too?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:41:28
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:35:54
    how many switches should i order for my winkeyless GH60?

    i counted 58 for a winkeyless setup, but is that correct?

    and then for a 1.5x layout, how many switches should i order?

    i counted 60...amirite there too?

    Just order 70 or even 80, it's never a bad thing to have a few extra switches. If you order exact amounts, you may have a bad time
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:49:12
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:41:28
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:35:54
    how many switches should i order for my winkeyless GH60?

    i counted 58 for a winkeyless setup, but is that correct?

    and then for a 1.5x layout, how many switches should i order?

    i counted 60...amirite there too?

    Just order 70 or even 80, it's never a bad thing to have a few extra switches. If you order exact amounts, you may have a bad time

    i ordered 70 mx whites for my winkeyless GH60, from Communist,

    and for the my second, should i just say 70 also? its gonna be the 1.5x ANSI layout
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 21 April 2013, 20:15:03
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:49:12
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:41:28
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:35:54
    how many switches should i order for my winkeyless GH60?

    i counted 58 for a winkeyless setup, but is that correct?

    and then for a 1.5x layout, how many switches should i order?

    i counted 60...amirite there too?

    Just order 70 or even 80, it's never a bad thing to have a few extra switches. If you order exact amounts, you may have a bad time

    i ordered 70 mx whites for my winkeyless GH60, from Communist,

    and for the my second, should i just say 70 also? its gonna be the 1.5x ANSI layout


    Sure, like The_Beast said, extras are good incase the switches are bad or you mess up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:01:42
    Thanks for the earlier answers, I will just get blank caps for caps / backspace, cheapest option and it's just fine. I hope I can remove the caps without breaking something.

    Other problem:
    I had problems with some keys on my dk1087xm. Actually it was the case coming apart and after some wrestling with it no keys get stuck anymore.
    But - keys are so difficult to remove on this one, non-character keys i mean, I removed the right Ctrl and a corner of that little plastic thingy that goes into the switch broke. Is it possible to remove such an ALPS switch, if yes how (what tool? i don't have special tools), and if it is possible to just replace it? (I mean everything is possible but realistically, can I do it at home or i should just leave it as it is)

    sorry for the stupid questions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bavman on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:05:33
    You broke plastic on the switch itself of the keycap? If its the keycap then you'll have to source another one somewhere. If its the switch then you can desolder it and buy another one (not sure from where) and solder the new one on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:06:06
    Quote from: Bencze on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:01:42
    Thanks for the earlier answers, I will just get blank caps for caps / backspace, cheapest option and it's just fine. I hope I can remove the caps without breaking something.

    Other problem:
    I had problems with some keys on my dk1087xm. Actually it was the case coming apart and after some wrestling with it no keys get stuck anymore.
    But - keys are so difficult to remove on this one, non-character keys i mean, I removed the right Ctrl and a corner of that little plastic thingy that goes into the switch broke. Is it possible to remove such an ALPS switch, if yes how (what tool? i don't have special tools), and if it is possible to just replace it? (I mean everything is possible but realistically, can I do it at home or i should just leave it as it is)

    sorry for the stupid questions.

    To remove an ALPs switch (or any plate-mounted switch for that matter (besides plates specially designed, see Phantom plate)), you have to pull the case apart, and desolder the entire board. While you're at it, you might as well replace every switch with matias switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:26:19
    Just the keycap, there is a little plastic pin on it, not sure how it's called that goes into the middle of the switch (in the hole), a little piece broke and stayed inside the switch. I used the basic cap remover I got with my QFR, but for the wider caps it doesn't work very well (grasping top and bottom instead of sides), next time I should probably just try and remove these kind of keys with a piece of string or something.

    In this case it's easier to just try and remove it with a needle, I never did any soldering, it's not important enough to learn now. :) thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:50:31
    Quote from: Bencze on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:01:42
    Thanks for the earlier answers, I will just get blank caps for caps / backspace, cheapest option and it's just fine. I hope I can remove the caps without breaking something.

    sorry for the stupid questions.

    Like I said before, no need to apologize. This thread is for question. There's very few stupid questions :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 22 April 2013, 11:10:59
    You do not need to desolder entire board to replace one switch, what the hell are you talking about?

    For Alps you can have this problem where the keycap mount breaks inside the stem, much like occasionally the stem will break off on MX switch insid the keycap. How I solve that particular problem is like a cork, take a tiny hook or eye screw like for hanging a picture, thread it into the piece you need to remove and pull, just like a cork. It has a high success rate for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Mon, 22 April 2013, 18:09:24
    Does anyone have the measurements for the switch plate opening? I am unable to locate the thread in which it was posted.

    (http://i38.tinypic.com/2s7gi36.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:08:16
    This is a little different, but I think you can get what you need:

    (http://i.imgur.com/FeggbO6.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:30:58
    What kind of phone am I using? :)

    (http://imageshack.us/a/img17/7691/screenshot2013042219252.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bear95 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:33:36
    A smart phone
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:40:37
    Quote from: bear95 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:33:36
    A smart phone
    A smart answer. I think natively, isn't it the Note 2 or something that supports that dual pane phone? Otherwise since its Android, it could be a custom ROM.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 22 April 2013, 20:53:14
    Can I purchase only a Poker plate from the GH60 group buy? How difficult is removing the cherry stabs on the Poker PCB and installing Costar stabs to the plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 22 April 2013, 20:54:45
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 22 April 2013, 20:53:14
    Can I purchase only a Poker plate from the GH60 group buy? How difficult is removing the cherry stabs on the Poker PCB and installing Costar stabs to the plate?

    1. Yes
    2. I'm not 100% sure, but I would think it would be easy. I believe WFD has a video showing how to apply each kind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 22 April 2013, 20:55:31
    Yes, you can. Removing the stabs is easy. Desoldering everything will be the harder part.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 22 April 2013, 20:57:45
    Alright, looks like I'll be hopping in on the group buy last minute and learning how to solder!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bear95 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:03:10
    What would you guys consider the best way of practicing to properly solder?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:05:07
    Quote from: bear95 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:03:10
    What would you guys consider the best way of practicing to properly solder?

    Buy old electronics like a VCR or a cheap keyboard and just start learning. People almost always link this thread (http://mightyohm.com/blog/2011/04/soldering-is-easy-comic-book/) as well. I honestly just got thrown in one day. Was at work and was told to do it so I just started to figure it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:28:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:05:07
    Quote from: bear95 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:03:10
    What would you guys consider the best way of practicing to properly solder?

    Buy old electronics like a VCR or a cheap keyboard and just start learning. People almost always link this thread (http://mightyohm.com/blog/2011/04/soldering-is-easy-comic-book/) as well. I honestly just got thrown in one day. Was at work and was told to do it so I just started to figure it out.

    Awesome guide, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 22 April 2013, 22:45:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:05:07
    Quote from: bear95 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:03:10
    What would you guys consider the best way of practicing to properly solder?

    Buy old electronics like a VCR or a cheap keyboard and just start learning. People almost always link this thread (http://mightyohm.com/blog/2011/04/soldering-is-easy-comic-book/) as well. I honestly just got thrown in one day. Was at work and was told to do it so I just started to figure it out.
    Wonder who told you the VCR trick... :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gulu on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:45:06
    hi guys, i need advice on my decision for a new keyboard,

    should i go for a ducky 9087 g2 pro pbt for around 130usd or cm storm quickfire stealth around 105usd + blank pbt keycaps around 49usd ?
    i liked the blank key caps for the quickfire stealth but i think it is abs not pbt, yet was wondering at this price comparison would the ducky be a better buy due to better build quality (than the quickfire)?

    thx in advance
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:22:15
    Quote from: gulu on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:45:06
    hi guys, i need advice on my decision for a new keyboard,

    should i go for a ducky 9087 g2 pro pbt for around 130usd or cm storm quickfire stealth around 105usd + blank pbt keycaps around 49usd ?
    i liked the blank key caps for the quickfire stealth but i think it is abs not pbt, yet was wondering at this price comparison would the ducky be a better buy due to better build quality (than the quickfire)?

    thx in advance
    I'm not personally familiar with ducky's build quality, but I have several quick fire rapids, and the build quality on them is very good. My only complaint is they have single-sided PCB's.

    Bytheway, if you want to replace the keycaps, just buy a quickfire rapid for much cheaper.

    The stealth does come with ABS keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 06:10:35
    Okay. We just installed these crazy cool digital 4k projectors at my theater and my job becomes ingesting movies/building playlists/maintenance instead of threading/building/tearing down 35mm film. We use a command center to control all of this, and it's ridiculous. We spent maybe a cool 2 million for the projectors/audio processors/server tower/computer/IPS monitors and they use a $5 membrane keyboard. It's already driving me nuts. I need a cheap full size mech keyboard. Sound is not an issue. Prefer blues or an alps equivalent. I'd like to spend less than $20 for it, so used is my only option. No crazy layouts, because my manager will be using it too.


    I'm sad that I won't get to work with 35mm, but I'm also happy I won't be running into issue after issue with our ****ty projectors that are always having something go wrong. Also the quality is BANANAS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 06:43:30
    Quote from: gulu on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:45:06
    hi guys, i need advice on my decision for a new keyboard,

    should i go for a ducky 9087 g2 pro pbt for around 130usd or cm storm quickfire stealth around 105usd + blank pbt keycaps around 49usd ?
    i liked the blank key caps for the quickfire stealth but i think it is abs not pbt, yet was wondering at this price comparison would the ducky be a better buy due to better build quality (than the quickfire)?

    thx in advance

    If this is your first mechanical keyboard, I'd recommend getting the QFR so you get a taste of what the boards are like without spending too much. QFRs are a really good value.


    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 06:10:35
    It's already driving me nuts. I need a cheap full size mech keyboard. Sound is not an issue. Prefer blues or an alps equivalent. I'd like to spend less than $20 for it, so used is my only option. No crazy layouts, because my manager will be using it too.

    If you're ok with an Alps board, a Del AT101W can be found for around $20. It has tactile black Alps. I got my Focus FK-2001 for $20 as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:08:06
    Those are clicky, right?

    How high is the actuation on those?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:19:26
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:08:06
    Those are clicky, right?

    How high is the actuation on those?

    Tactile black Alps aren't Clicky. But the Focus has Clicky White Alps. The actuation is at the top, it's almost instantaneous.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 April 2013, 08:37:52
    Where can I find a keyboard cover for a Ducky DK9008 Shine II

    Something like this but maybe with sides also?? My work is somewhat dusty and I'd like to cover it at night when I'm not here. Also the cleaning people are awful and I don't want them spraying/wiping random cleaners over the keys...

    (http://i.imgur.com/keD13k3.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 08:40:08
    EliteKeyboards sells Keyboard Roofs. You could try those.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 April 2013, 08:48:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 08:40:08
    EliteKeyboards sells Keyboard Roofs. You could try those.

    roof not cover...maybe I was just using the wrong keyword......you truly are a bad @$$ thanks  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 08:52:25
    Haha, thanks. Glad to help :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:14:12
    I'm sure this has been asked 100 times before...

    Why do most GHers prefer thick PBT? Do regular PBT caps break? Are you guys wearing through the thin PBT?

    I understand thick probably feels a little more solid and sounds different. Are these the only reasons why?

    Does anyone prefer thin PBT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gulu on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:17:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 06:43:30

    If this is your first mechanical keyboard, I'd recommend getting the QFR so you get a taste of what the boards are like without spending too much. QFRs are a really good value.

    i have the old blackwidow expert with blues (was okay but probably because i played rts heavily the number1 key above Q now tends to feel abit mushy and less crispy click, yeah well just razer i guess lol ), now im hunting for reds. i think i've decided to go for the brandless quickfire rapid, put some o rings and change it to blank side printed pbt caps in the future, really thx for the advices ^^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:31:29
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:14:12
    I'm sure this has been asked 100 times before...

    Why do most GHers prefer thick PBT? Do regular PBT caps break? Are you guys wearing through the thin PBT?

    I understand thick probably feels a little more solid and sounds different. Are these the only reasons why?

    Does anyone prefer thin PBT?

    never tried thin PBTs but I think you assumption is correct, they feel more solid and sound better. I've had a set of thick ABS caps from China, they just felt so much better than my other ABS caps from WASDKeyboard or Groupbuys. PBT is already tough by itself so I dont think they break, even if you use your keyboard as a weapon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:12:58
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:14:12
    I'm sure this has been asked 100 times before...

    Why do most GHers prefer thick PBT? Do regular PBT caps break? Are you guys wearing through the thin PBT?

    I understand thick probably feels a little more solid and sounds different. Are these the only reasons why?

    Does anyone prefer thin PBT?

    It changes how the caps feel when you type on them. I also enjoy "Thick" ABS or doubleshots. But honestly? I dont even mind the thin ABS.

    Like many things keyboard-related, this is personal and subjective. Ask me or anyone else again tomorrow and you might get different answers.

    I'm starting a Tour of different switches and cap material types. The thread in the Interest Check section is called "Keycap Test Tour". If youre CONUS, sign up and make your own opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:56:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:12:58
    It changes how the caps feel when you type on them. I also enjoy "Thick" ABS or doubleshots. But honestly? I dont even mind the thin ABS.

    Like many things keyboard-related, this is personal and subjective. Ask me or anyone else again tomorrow and you might get different answers.

    I'm starting a Tour of different switches and cap material types. The thread in the Interest Check section is called "Keycap Test Tour". If youre CONUS, sign up and make your own opinion.

    It's also because we don't want our caps to get shiny :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:58:34
    Here's my simple question:

    What do I want to get for lunch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:59:39
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:56:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:12:58
    It changes how the caps feel when you type on them. I also enjoy "Thick" ABS or doubleshots. But honestly? I dont even mind the thin ABS.

    Like many things keyboard-related, this is personal and subjective. Ask me or anyone else again tomorrow and you might get different answers.

    I'm starting a Tour of different switches and cap material types. The thread in the Interest Check section is called "Keycap Test Tour". If youre CONUS, sign up and make your own opinion.

    It's also because we don't want our caps to get shiny :)

    Embrace the shine!!


    Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:58:34
    Here's my simple question:

    What do I want to get for lunch?

    You want to skip lunch and put the money towards Bunny's Auction for Cherry Legends or buying more GH Cherry Fundraiser Backspaces from TechKeys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:00:12
    $225 isn't enough?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:01:19
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:58:34
    Here's my simple question:

    What do I want to get for lunch?

    Go for a Calzone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:02:17
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:01:19
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:58:34
    Here's my simple question:

    What do I want to get for lunch?

    Go for a Calzone.

    Curry noodles with veggies and tofu.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:07:45
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:00:12
    $225 isn't enough?

    I don't know. Does that satisfy KingKlaxon's daily sacrifice criteria? Or maybe ask yourself, what would the GirlShark do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:10:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:07:45
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:00:12
    $225 isn't enough?

    I don't know. Does that satisfy KingKlaxon's daily sacrifice criteria? Or maybe ask yourself, what would the GirlShark do?

    I don't believe in the GirlShark.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:11:07
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:10:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:07:45
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:00:12
    $225 isn't enough?

    I don't know. Does that satisfy KingKlaxon's daily sacrifice criteria? Or maybe ask yourself, what would the GirlShark do?

    I don't believe in the GirlShark.

    What about just the first part then?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: babyhands on Tue, 23 April 2013, 16:08:23
    To my understanding, there are plate mounted boards and PCB mounted boards? What are the difference between the two? I hear about people wanting to get new plates for their boards (i think KBT pures or something), why do people want to do this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 16:17:00
    Quote from: babyhands on Tue, 23 April 2013, 16:08:23
    To my understanding, there are plate mounted boards and PCB mounted boards? What are the difference between the two? I hear about people wanting to get new plates for their boards (i think KBT pures or something), why do people want to do this?

    With plate mounted you slide the switches into a cutout on a plate, mounting the switches to that metal plate, then you solder the switch connections to the PCB.  PCB mounted has stabilizers that drop into the PCB and you solder the switch to the PCB.  PCB mounted switches are less stable because of the mounting system.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:05:03
    Best cheap lube for switches? I have some Teflon silicone lube that I used, but I've seen some people say that you should have some oil/grease combo lube for the stems.  Will the Teflon silicone lube be good enough or is there something else I should use that's cheap and affordable?  I'll be using it in Reds that I'm swapping in Clear springs on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:25:45
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:05:03
    Best cheap lube for switches? I have some Teflon silicone lube that I used, but I've seen some people say that you should have some oil/grease combo lube for the stems.  Will the Teflon silicone lube be good enough or is there something else I should use that's cheap and affordable?  I'll be using it in Reds that I'm swapping in Clear springs on.

    The best lube for stems is a 1:1 mixture of DuPont Krytox GPL 205 grease and 103 oil. Why didn't you get in on my GB, huh?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:04:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:25:45
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:05:03
    Best cheap lube for switches? I have some Teflon silicone lube that I used, but I've seen some people say that you should have some oil/grease combo lube for the stems.  Will the Teflon silicone lube be good enough or is there something else I should use that's cheap and affordable?  I'll be using it in Reds that I'm swapping in Clear springs on.

    The best lube for stems is a 1:1 mixture of DuPont Krytox GPL 205 grease and 103 oil. Why didn't you get in on my GB, huh?

    The last lube GB I saw was from before I joined.  The GPL 205 (http://compare.ebay.com/like/270726776537?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar) seems pretty easy to find and, while not the cheapest, doesn't seem too poorly priced.  More than I'd prefer to spend, but it is what it is.  The 103 seems to be MIA.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:10:16
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:25:45
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:05:03
    Best cheap lube for switches? I have some Teflon silicone lube that I used, but I've seen some people say that you should have some oil/grease combo lube for the stems.  Will the Teflon silicone lube be good enough or is there something else I should use that's cheap and affordable?  I'll be using it in Reds that I'm swapping in Clear springs on.

    The best lube for stems is a 1:1 mixture of DuPont Krytox GPL 205 grease and 103 oil. Why didn't you get in on my GB, huh?

    Hey man, that's just, like, your opinion, man


    I like Superlube
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:35:19
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:04:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:25:45
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:05:03
    Best cheap lube for switches? I have some Teflon silicone lube that I used, but I've seen some people say that you should have some oil/grease combo lube for the stems.  Will the Teflon silicone lube be good enough or is there something else I should use that's cheap and affordable?  I'll be using it in Reds that I'm swapping in Clear springs on.

    The best lube for stems is a 1:1 mixture of DuPont Krytox GPL 205 grease and 103 oil. Why didn't you get in on my GB, huh?

    The last lube GB I saw was from before I joined.  The GPL 205 (http://compare.ebay.com/like/270726776537?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar) seems pretty easy to find and, while not the cheapest, doesn't seem too poorly priced.  More than I'd prefer to spend, but it is what it is.  The 103 seems to be MIA.

    Which is exactly why I made a GB for the 103. Price was $10 for a 1/2 oz. (14g) bottle, plus shipping. I may have a bottle available after the GB orders ship. Let me know if you're interested.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:37:05
    Quote from: The_Beast on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:10:16
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:25:45
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:05:03
    Best cheap lube for switches? I have some Teflon silicone lube that I used, but I've seen some people say that you should have some oil/grease combo lube for the stems.  Will the Teflon silicone lube be good enough or is there something else I should use that's cheap and affordable?  I'll be using it in Reds that I'm swapping in Clear springs on.

    The best lube for stems is a 1:1 mixture of DuPont Krytox GPL 205 grease and 103 oil. Why didn't you get in on my GB, huh?

    Hey man, that's just, like, your opinion, man

    I like Superlube

    This stuff? (http://www.amazon.com/Synthetic-Grease-Syncolon-Purpose-Lubricant/dp/B000XBH9HI)  Its price is certainly more appealing.  Any reason you prefer that to the other?

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 18:35:19
    Which is exactly why I made a GB for the 103. Price was $10 for a 1/2 oz. (14g) bottle, plus shipping. I may have a bottle available after the GB orders ship. Let me know if you're interested.

    If you do have any left over, I would probably be interested.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:16:33
    What is IRC?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:21:30
    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:16:33
    What is IRC?

    are you serious? hm... damn.. i must be old... wait... doesn't geekhack have an irc?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:30:53
    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:16:33
    What is IRC?

    Are you serious or trolling?

    Internet relay chat or something like that it's old school

    Mirc was my client of choice back in the day

    Dang I got ninja'd
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:32:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:19:26
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:08:06
    Those are clicky, right?

    How high is the actuation on those?

    Tactile black Alps aren't Clicky. But the Focus has Clicky White Alps. The actuation is at the top, it's almost instantaneous.

    Oh yuck. I really feel like I wouldn't enjoy that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:48:37
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:21:30
    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:16:33
    What is IRC?

    are you serious? hm... damn.. i must be old... wait... doesn't geekhack have an irc?

    Serious.

    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:30:53
    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:16:33
    What is IRC?

    Are you serious or trolling?

    Internet relay chat or something like that it's old school

    Mirc was my client of choice back in the day

    Dang I got ninja'd


    Serious, never heard of it.


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:57:28
    I'm on my phone so I can't give you a proper answer but IRC is at its base an old school chat protocol and you can transfer files etc

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:58:38
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:57:28
    I'm on my phone so I can't give you a proper answer but IRC is at its base an old school chart protocol and you can transfer files etc

    Yep. Internet Relay Chat.

    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:16:33
    What is IRC?

    You should join us sometime. Good times just chatting...not necessarily about keyboards. RogueR and I somehow always end up talking about Monitors...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:59:17
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:57:28
    I'm on my phone so I can't give you a proper answer but IRC is at its base an old school chart protocol and you can transfer files etc

    Alright cool, thanks :D

    Quote from: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:58:38
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:57:28
    I'm on my phone so I can't give you a proper answer but IRC is at its base an old school chart protocol and you can transfer files etc

    Yep. Internet Relay Chat.

    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:16:33
    What is IRC?

    You should join us sometime. Good times just chatting...not necessarily about keyboards. RogueR and I somehow always end up talking about Monitors...

    I'm on right now, and it is pretty cool!


    Gupgup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 21:00:24
    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:59:17
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:57:28
    I'm on my phone so I can't give you a proper answer but IRC is at its base an old school chart protocol and you can transfer files etc

    Alright cool, thanks :D

    Quote from: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:58:38
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:57:28
    I'm on my phone so I can't give you a proper answer but IRC is at its base an old school chart protocol and you can transfer files etc

    Yep. Internet Relay Chat.

    Quote from: Gupgup on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:16:33
    What is IRC?

    You should join us sometime. Good times just chatting...not necessarily about keyboards. RogueR and I somehow always end up talking about Monitors...

    I'm on right now, and it is pretty cool!


    Gupgup

    I'll join it a bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 22:15:00
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:37:05
    If you do have any left over, I would probably be interested.

    I'll let you know after I ship all the orders. :)

    Also, I don't want to take any credit for the 103 GB idea. It was Jocelyn's baby at first. I just took over for the second round.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 24 April 2013, 06:55:53
    What's the state of play with the Miami set? Will it ever get made?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:16:09
    Is it possible to do double shot PBT?  And/or has anyone attempted it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:22:12
    Where can I buy pcb-mount cherry stabilizers?  Looking at a board that has them removed...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:32:41
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Wed, 24 April 2013, 06:55:53
    What's the state of play with the Miami set? Will it ever get made?

    The last Miami GB didnt meet the MOQ needed from SP. I heard some members saying they'd like to start an IC and rerun the GB again. Rumor is it might be done with GMK. But if we get the Cherry Replica Legends at SP, I could see a buy going there.

    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:16:09
    Is it possible to do double shot PBT?  And/or has anyone attempted it?

    Yes, the latest Wario cap is double shot PBT and then dye-subbed to get the 3 colors. There have been other PBT doubleshot caps but the issue is that PBT shrinks a lot and causes issues in production. Whatever specialty processes that are needed to control the shrink causes the price to increase and that's why so few doubleshot PBT caps exist.


    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 24 April 2013, 07:22:12
    Where can I buy pcb-mount cherry stabilizers?  Looking at a board that has them removed...

    Jdcarpe told me you can get them at Mouser (a website)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Wed, 24 April 2013, 08:28:00
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Wed, 24 April 2013, 06:55:53
    What's the state of play with the Miami set? Will it ever get made?

    From what I've seen over the last few months, yes. I will make sure of it.
    Preferably from GMK, but with the high MOQ, perhaps when sp has cherry legends. And all these constant GBs die down.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:39:47
    Is there a thread somewhere that explains spacebar sizing? For example when would I need a 6.2x or 7x spacebar?

    I'm looking at filling out the order form for the Toxic GB and I was thinking of just getting one of everything but don't really know if that is neccesary....

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:53:45
    Borrowed this image from mashby. This checker can be bought at TechKeys.com and I think it does a good job of explaining spacebars:

    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8491/8370414811_866f1f8cb3_o.jpg)

    Depending on what layout you want will determine what spacebar you want. Most boards will have a 1.25x modifiers for the bottom row. Some customs and older boards will have 1.5x modifiers for the bottom row. Check out the pics in this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828888#msg828888) to see the difference between the two modifier/spacebar setups.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: i3oilermaker on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:54:16
    There are not many left!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:18:34
    Quote from: i3oilermaker on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:54:16
    There are not many left!

    I think its time I go check out techkeys and buy something!  :eek:  Edit: So that escalated quickly was going to just buy the key sheet but got a little carried away..... :p

    And thanks CPT, now off to study key sizes.....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:21:38
    Feel free to post more questions about the layouts and spacebars or PM me ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:47:07
    I've been of the mind that one should buy every key size available in a buy. You never know when you might find a really good deal on some keyboard, and it has very bad condition or missing keycaps. In most cases you will be covered.

    I would like to revist Miami, but I am really not sure there will be the numbers required to get it made. I have some remix idea to do maybe have the flamingo and aquamarine legends on a white base. Maybe it will be more interest if it is toned down a bit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:07:02
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:47:07
    I've been of the mind that one should buy every key size available in a buy. You never know when you might find a really good deal on some keyboard, and it has very bad condition or missing keycaps. In most cases you will be covered.

    I would like to revist Miami, but I am really not sure there will be the numbers required to get it made. I have some remix idea to do maybe have the flamingo and aquamarine legends on a white base. Maybe it will be more interest if it is toned down a bit?

    Aquamarine on white sounds an awful lot like Raindrop...  Just sayin'.   ;D

    But in all seriousness, I retract what I said earlier about the Gawd-awful Miami color scheme.  On a complete board it doesn't look half bad!  I was thinking of the various all-white or blue keyboards I've seen  posted lately, modded Filcos and CM QFRs, the Miami set would look fantastic with a case like that.

    [attachimg=1]

    Stick to your guns, make the Miami set a reality!  With ISO and 104/5-key options too, please!   ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tribade on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:09:36
    Hi guys, I don't know whether this has been answered before, but I was wondering whether there was an easy-ish way to go about getting my hands on a KMAC Mini.  I'm not a fan of the button layout on the Happy, and the 2 isn't my style, and those are the only two I've seen for sale anywhere (and now nowhere since Sherryton's site is currently down  :( )  I don't really know much about to the boards to be honest, but they are certainly beautiful!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:12:39
    Maybe you can sweet talk an order on the closed GH60 buy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tribade on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:24:51
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:12:39
    Maybe you can sweet talk an order on the closed GH60 buy?

    Were you replying to me?  I thought the GH60 buy was a custom GH 60% PCB, though, not KMAC boards.  I'm sure I could have misread it though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:26:52
    Yes it is a custom, but it will have everything on level of Korean stuff if you want to pay for it and it will be a lot easier to get a hold of. There are several style of case in the works to accompany the PCB groupbuy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tribade on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:34:41
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:26:52
    Yes it is a custom, but it will have everything on level of KMAC mini if you want to pay for it and it will be a lot easier to get a hold of. There are several style of case in the works to accompany the PCB groupbuy.

    Ah thanks for your help!  I see what you mean now.  The only problem I foresee with the GH60 is the positioning of the buttons.  I don't see any layouts that have a similar arrow key layout, which is what I was hoping for as well as the F keys off to the side of the normal 60%.  I use a HHKB now, and the reason I was so interested in the mini was because of its layout, and it's reputation as being a really fantastic board.  Do they do group buys of KMAC boards every once in a while as well?  That seems to be the most surefire way of getting one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:49:19
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:47:07
    I've been of the mind that one should buy every key size available in a buy. You never know when you might find a really good deal on some keyboard, and it has very bad condition or missing keycaps. In most cases you will be covered.

    I would like to revist Miami, but I am really not sure there will be the numbers required to get it made. I have some remix idea to do maybe have the flamingo and aquamarine legends on a white base. Maybe it will be more interest if it is toned down a bit?

    NO. MIAMI OR DIE. What is this..."toned down" nonsense. Flamingo on Aqua NAO! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:49:50
    Quote from: Greystoke on Wed, 24 April 2013, 11:07:02
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:47:07
    I've been of the mind that one should buy every key size available in a buy. You never know when you might find a really good deal on some keyboard, and it has very bad condition or missing keycaps. In most cases you will be covered.

    I would like to revist Miami, but I am really not sure there will be the numbers required to get it made. I have some remix idea to do maybe have the flamingo and aquamarine legends on a white base. Maybe it will be more interest if it is toned down a bit?

    Aquamarine on white sounds an awful lot like Raindrop...  Just sayin'.   ;D

    But in all seriousness, I retract what I said earlier about the Gawd-awful Miami color scheme.  On a complete board it doesn't look half bad!  I was thinking of the various all-white or blue keyboards I've seen  posted lately, modded Filcos and CM QFRs, the Miami set would look fantastic with a case like that.

    (Attachment Link)

    Stick to your guns, make the Miami set a reality!  With ISO and 104/5-key options too, please!   ;)

    I'd love Miami, but I'm not sure how it would look on my keyboard there. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:45:54
    Ok I think I've made stupid noob mistake.

    I just purchased the Ducky DK9008 Shine II White LED Backlit Mechanical Keyboard (Clear Cherry MX) and I ordered a set of KBC Gray Dyesub "Thick" PBT Cherry MX Key Caps (105 keys included) now what do I do about the 4 keys about the numberpad? Doh!  :confused:

    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:49:12
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:45:54
    Ok I think I've made stupid noob mistake.

    I just purchased the Ducky DK9008 Shine II White LED Backlit Mechanical Keyboard (Clear Cherry MX) and I ordered a set of KBC Gray Dyesub "Thick" PBT Cherry MX Key Caps (105 keys included) now what do I do about the 4 keys about the numberpad? Doh!  :confused:

    (Attachment Link)

    Add four Brobots to your keyboard?

     :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:05:13
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:45:54
    noob
    Can't you order 4 blank caps of same type? Who cares about those buttons anyway, I'd use them as decoration or nothing at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:06:21
    I vote for 4 GirlDC caps :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:10:04
    ray you're gonna have a hard time finding any keyset that has those four keys. Spend $1000 on 4 girldcs like CPT suggested :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:14:18
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:10:04
    ray you're gonna have a hard time finding any keyset that has those four keys. Spend $1000 on 4 girldcs like CPT suggested :p

    Well if my wife didn't already spend all my money I'd go for that  :-[ :-X

    I just feel stupid I'm sitting here looking at the keyboard and realize there are four extra keys....doh!  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:15:04
    Or time to start searching for dem clickclacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:18:05
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:14:18
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:10:04
    ray you're gonna have a hard time finding any keyset that has those four keys. Spend $1000 on 4 girldcs like CPT suggested :p

    Well if my wife didn't already spend all my money I'd go for that  :-[ :-X

    I just feel stupid I'm sitting here looking at the keyboard and realize there are four extra keys....doh!  :rolleyes:

    I had the same issue with the CM Storm Trigger.  Bought a 104-key set of black side-printed PBT keycaps, then realized there were five additional macro keys on the left.  D'oh!

    Realistically, doesn't look too bad with the stock caps on those keys, they're black as well.  Not sure what you'll find to fill in, but there are a lot of options for that row!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:50:24
    Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?

    That's like asking which is better, Ferrari or Lamborghini? :P

    They're both awesome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:03:45
    Guys is it normal for some keys to have letters than are 'off' take these functions keys as an example, the bottom of the F is partially covered on some of them....

    tl;d looking at F6 then the others they look weird

    Also are there supposed to be holes in the tops of the keys? You can see the backlight coming through.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:12:05
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:50:24
    Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?

    That's like asking which is better, Ferrari or Lamborghini? :P

    They're both awesome.

    Omg. I'm putting that in the OP. LMAO
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:12:54
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:50:24
    Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?

    That's like asking which is better, Ferrari or Lamborghini? :P

    They're both awesome.

    Lies, one is awesome and one is almost awesome :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:20:54
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:50:24
    Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?

    That's like asking which is better, Ferrari or Lamborghini? :P

    They're both awesome.
    Moped.
    (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6mU_cgrR_ig/UVhTCzBrBrI/AAAAAAAAAsk/JdHKctcSVn0/s912/DSCF2112.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:24:35
    Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?
    I've got thick pbts and they're awesome. I'd still prefer some GMK doubleshots though - they're the ultimate caps in my mind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:30:20
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:03:45
    Guys is it normal for some keys to have letters than are 'off' take these functions keys as an example, the bottom of the F is partially covered on some of them....

    tl;d looking at F6 then the others they look weird

    Also are there supposed to be holes in the tops of the keys? You can see the backlight coming through.

    I believe that the Ducky caps are just painted so maybe its bad quality control? And maybe those holes are from the tooling? I don't have a Backlit Ducky so I'm not sure
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:49:04
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:03:45
    Guys is it normal for some keys to have letters than are 'off' take these functions keys as an example, the bottom of the F is partially covered on some of them....

    tl;d looking at F6 then the others they look weird

    Also are there supposed to be holes in the tops of the keys? You can see the backlight coming through.

    The slight imperfections in the legends seems to be common. I have some on my Ducky and some on my GF's Ducky as well.

    The small holes on the back of the keycaps is where the caps themselves break off of the plastic sprue.

    These are both things that your only going to notice if you are actually looking for them unless you're a dwarf sitting at a high desk with your nose on the keyboard :)

    If your looking that hard for imperfections, your going to find them on every keyboard you buy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:54:31
    Quote from: Lunartuna on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:49:04
    These are both things that your only going to notice if you are actually looking for them unless you're a dwarf sitting at a high desk with your nose on the keyboard :)

     :-[ So what if I'm short  :'(




     :p






    no really i am  :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:55:40
    Well ****e.  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:56:14
    Woops! You can't swear on the internet!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 17:38:57
     ray4jc, maybe order some 8bit hearts from tech keys. Color is not the same, but they are the same PBT keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 24 April 2013, 19:06:23
    Anyone know if a Cherry G80-8113HRBUS-2 is plate or pcb mounted switches/stabs?  I googled but can't seem to tell from pictures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bavman on Wed, 24 April 2013, 19:23:41
    Looks pcb mounted
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 24 April 2013, 19:41:48
    Quote from: bavman on Wed, 24 April 2013, 19:23:41
    Looks pcb mounted

    Thanks, I think so too, but I need to be sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 April 2013, 19:44:18
    Wait for Lysol to answer. He knows all Cherry. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 24 April 2013, 20:13:35
    All Cherry boards are PCB mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 April 2013, 20:33:56
    I guess SmallFry will do :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 24 April 2013, 20:40:54
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 24 April 2013, 17:38:57
    ray4jc, maybe order some 8bit hearts from tech keys. Color is not the same, but they are the same PBT keys.

    why didn't i think about this earlier when i made an order from techkeys.... :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 25 April 2013, 07:15:04
    Generally Cherry G80 is PCB mount, but not ALL of them. Though the platemount models like the 045*, 077*, 092* are not come across too often in the open market. The new 3850 is also a platemount.
    However it is still safer to assume it is PCB mount as that is far more common with Cherry. MX 8000 series is all PCB mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 25 April 2013, 09:13:10
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 25 April 2013, 07:15:04
    Generally Cherry G80 is PCB mount, but not ALL of them. Though the platemount models like the 045*, 077*, 092* are not come across too often in the open market. The new 3850 is also a platemount.
    However it is still safer to assume it is PCB mount as that is far more common with Cherry. MX 8000 series is all PCB mount.
    Ah, suppose I knew that. Oh well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:31:26
    Is there anyway of lubing my switches on my Filco MJ2? Or will I need to unsolder them before I can take the top off?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:34:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:31:26
    Is there anyway of lubing my switches on my Filco MJ2? Or will I need to unsolder them before I can take the top off?

    Thanks!

    There's a lube guide here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) but I believe you'll have do desolder the switches before lubing them. Some people have said you can flood the switch with lube but it sounds like a bad idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:36:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:34:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:31:26
    Is there anyway of lubing my switches on my Filco MJ2? Or will I need to unsolder them before I can take the top off?

    Thanks!

    There's a lube guide here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) but I believe you'll have do desolder the switches before lubing them. Some people have said you can flood the switch with lube but it sounds like a bad idea.

    Thanks! I guess since the Filco is plate mounted, there is no way of taking the tops off without desoldering it first :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:37:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:36:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:34:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:31:26
    Is there anyway of lubing my switches on my Filco MJ2? Or will I need to unsolder them before I can take the top off?

    Thanks!

    There's a lube guide here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) but I believe you'll have do desolder the switches before lubing them. Some people have said you can flood the switch with lube but it sounds like a bad idea.

    Thanks! I guess since the Filco is plate mounted, there is no way of taking the tops off without desoldering it first :(.

    Some plates do allow it but those are custom ones (The_Beast and WFD made those plates IIRC). The stock ones that come w/ the boards don't have those cutouts that allow you to remove the tops.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:40:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:37:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:36:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:34:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:31:26
    Is there anyway of lubing my switches on my Filco MJ2? Or will I need to unsolder them before I can take the top off?

    Thanks!

    There's a lube guide here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) but I believe you'll have do desolder the switches before lubing them. Some people have said you can flood the switch with lube but it sounds like a bad idea.

    Thanks! I guess since the Filco is plate mounted, there is no way of taking the tops off without desoldering it first :(.

    Some plates do allow it but those are custom ones (The_Beast and WFD made those plates IIRC). The stock ones that come w/ the boards don't have those cutouts that allow you to remove the tops.

    Ah okay, thanks so much!

    Much appreciated! Have a great day :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 13:42:03
    No worries. Pretty sure I gave you accurate info but check back to see if anyone corrects me :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 25 April 2013, 14:44:12
    Within the firmware for the Phantom is it possible to reassign keys to mouse clicks and scroll wheel functions? 

    If so would it be theoretically possible to hack the firmware in a Razer Naga Epic to plug it directly into an additional port on a Phantom so that the firmware just sees this as an extended 10 key pad? 

    What i would LOVE to do would be this so I can bind Fn commands to the mouse at the firmware level.  The 12 buttons on the side of the mouse show up to the computer as keyboard keys anyway.  Just wondering if this is possible?

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 15:05:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 25 April 2013, 14:44:12
    Within the firmware for the Phantom is it possible to reassign keys to mouse clicks and scroll wheel functions? 

    If so would it be theoretically possible to hack the firmware in a Razer Naga Epic to plug it directly into an additional port on a Phantom so that the firmware just sees this as an extended 10 key pad? 

    What i would LOVE to do would be this so I can bind Fn commands to the mouse at the firmware level.  The 12 buttons on the side of the mouse show up to the computer as keyboard keys anyway.  Just wondering if this is possible?

    Melvang

    Isn't that the whole point of the Synapse software?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 April 2013, 15:12:02
    wonder if anyone would be interested in trading anything for steam games?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 25 April 2013, 19:14:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 15:05:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 25 April 2013, 14:44:12
    Within the firmware for the Phantom is it possible to reassign keys to mouse clicks and scroll wheel functions? 

    If so would it be theoretically possible to hack the firmware in a Razer Naga Epic to plug it directly into an additional port on a Phantom so that the firmware just sees this as an extended 10 key pad? 

    What i would LOVE to do would be this so I can bind Fn commands to the mouse at the firmware level.  The 12 buttons on the side of the mouse show up to the computer as keyboard keys anyway.  Just wondering if this is possible?

    Melvang

    Isn't that the whole point of the Synapse software?

    It is but there isn't any way to set it up for a modifier key to transfer over to the mouse.  That was why I was wondering if there was a way to plug the mouse into the keyboard as a 10 key extension of said keyboard.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: speedkills on Thu, 25 April 2013, 19:54:37
    Simple questions, simple answers, love this idea and wish every forum had a thread like this.  Here goes my noob questions.  I am building a ergodox and have ordered a set of blue switches but I am not sure if I am going to love them.  The ergodox is a plate mount board (although the pcb supports pcb mounted switches) so knowing nothing about disassembling and modding switches, if I plate mount them do I need to unsolder them to be able to modify the internals, say I wanted to to make my blues ergo clears, or jailhouse blues, could I do that all from on top of the plate, or would it require unsoldering the switches?

    If the plate is a problem, could I just use pcb mounted switches instead and just cut out the center part of the layer that has the switch plate so I could get to it easily later?  I want to be able to tweak this keyboard and am ready to solder my switches in but am hesitant now that I am to the stage where I would solder the switches on with the plate in between the switches and the pcb as I really don't want to be in a situation where I have to unsolder every damn switch if I decide I want stiffer springs on my home keys or something like that.

    -Shane
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 20:03:01
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 25 April 2013, 15:12:02
    wonder if anyone would be interested in trading anything for steam games?

    Please dont use this thread for trading/buying/selling. I'm sure if you post in the classifieds you'll find out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 April 2013, 21:44:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 20:03:01
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 25 April 2013, 15:12:02
    wonder if anyone would be interested in trading anything for steam games?

    Please dont use this thread for trading/buying/selling. I'm sure if you post in the classifieds you'll find out.

    Sorry, will do!


    Back on topic does anyone have a switch keychain collection?


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 21:45:36
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 25 April 2013, 21:44:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 20:03:01
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 25 April 2013, 15:12:02
    wonder if anyone would be interested in trading anything for steam games?

    Please dont use this thread for trading/buying/selling. I'm sure if you post in the classifieds you'll find out.

    Sorry, will do!


    Back on topic does anyone have a switch keychain collection?

    I'm starting one and I'm pretty sure Sifo's gotta thread in the media subforum with all his hotness XD


    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 25 April 2013, 19:14:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 April 2013, 15:05:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 25 April 2013, 14:44:12
    Within the firmware for the Phantom is it possible to reassign keys to mouse clicks and scroll wheel functions? 

    If so would it be theoretically possible to hack the firmware in a Razer Naga Epic to plug it directly into an additional port on a Phantom so that the firmware just sees this as an extended 10 key pad? 

    What i would LOVE to do would be this so I can bind Fn commands to the mouse at the firmware level.  The 12 buttons on the side of the mouse show up to the computer as keyboard keys anyway.  Just wondering if this is possible?

    Melvang

    Isn't that the whole point of the Synapse software?

    It is but there isn't any way to set it up for a modifier key to transfer over to the mouse.  That was why I was wondering if there was a way to plug the mouse into the keyboard as a 10 key extension of said keyboard.

    Melvang

    I feel bad since I never know how to answer your questions man. Help a brother out guys ^_^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 26 April 2013, 11:40:35
    Does anyone know where I can find an OEM Filco shift key (R1 1x2.75)? Mine came scratched when I bought it :(.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 11:44:52
    You could get a black shift, OEM profile, from wasdkeyboards. Might not be a perfect match, but probably as close as you'll get without starting a WTB and hoping someone will break their set, or maybe have to just buy a whole new set. Or join a GB!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 26 April 2013, 11:51:02
    Thanks for the reply!

    Is the finish from WASD a bit different than the ones from the OEM Filcos? The WASD's look more textured while the OEM Filcos look more satin-smoothish.

    I'm a long way from being able to create a WTB tread D: .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:08:27
    So how do you guys store/organize all your extra key cap sets?

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:11:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:08:27
    So how do you guys store/organize all your extra key cap sets?

    Melvang

    (http://i.imgur.com/0dEhoJB.jpg)
    Closed
    (http://i.imgur.com/s3Dz2QT.jpg)
    Open

    And the thread I was talking about earlier was this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39180.msg763942#msg763942). More info on those keycap set boxes can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39180.msg779463#msg779463).


    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:46:45
    true would probably work on a non stepped cap though.  I would love to get on IRC with you and bounce some ideas but i have to say I am up WAY past my bed time with working 12 hour days for the next week and a half or so.  Plus its 7pm to 7 am.  I probably can't give you a reliable time of when i will be on this weekend but will be on monday morning after work.

    Melvang out for the weekend

    You guys are worse crack for me than Farcebook.  and even WoW.

    Melvang, I'm often on IRC as well if you wanna hop in and chat about ideas. :D

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:16:50
    well i was wondering cause i have a small tackle box (made in the USA) but it is filling up very fast

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:18:22
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 12:16:50
    well i was wondering cause i have a small tackle box (made in the USA) but it is filling up very fast

    There's a thread about this but I can't seem to remember the title. Maybe like keycap boxes or something. Hm...well regardless. I'll take pics and find that thread later. For now, I'll say that I get all my stuff from the Container Store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:09:06
    What profile are the wasd textured. Caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:09:27
    ok having a minor issue with installing my Sanctuary set.  I pulled the white inserts out of the stock ABS black blanks that came with my Das (costar) and they won't stay in the slots for them on the new keys.  Are the doubleshot ABS Sanctuary keys meant for cherry stabilizers?

    Comments or suggestions more than welcome here.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:14:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:09:27
    ok having a minor issue with installing my Sanctuary set.  I pulled the white inserts out of the stock ABS black blanks that came with my Das (costar) and they won't stay in the slots for them on the new keys.  Are the doubleshot ABS Sanctuary keys meant for cherry stabilizers?

    Comments or suggestions more than welcome here.

    Melvang

    Common problem with SP caps and Costar stabilizers. Take a bit of plastic from like a plastic bag. Cut little squares out. Cover the hole, then shove the insert into the hole. The plastic will get jammed inside and cause the insert to fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:21:53
    sounds good thanx CPTBadAss.  My next step was going to be superglue.  I have to say the texture on this set is AMAZING

    Melvang

    PS Pics to follow in the http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.0 thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:23:43
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:21:53
    sounds good thanx CPTBadAss.  My next step was going to be superglue.  I have to say the texture on this set is AMAZING

    Melvang

    PS Pics to follow in the http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.0 thread.

    I think the insert loose-ness is an issue with the SP molds but the plastic bag trick works well so it's not that big a deal IMO. Looking forward to your pics!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:29:48
    Or you could do like I do:

    1. hook stabilizers into stabilizer bar
    2.  put in the little stabilizer slot things
    3. put cap on all dat shiz.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HID45 on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:50:51
    Hi,

    Noob question here...

    I just got myself a nice Ducky Shine (not 2, but the original, without light memory etc). Mine's with black switches. I've been thinking that reds for arrows and maybe blues for numpad would be nice. Switches are PCB mounted right? So can I just pop the switches out of the board and replace them with other ones? Or is there going to be soldering involved (in which case I'm just dropping the project. Me and solder don't match, it's been tested and proved)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:52:13
    Quote from: HID45 on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:50:51
    Hi,

    Noob question here...

    I just got myself a nice Ducky Shine (not 2, but the original, without light memory etc). Mine's with black switches. I've been thinking that reds for arrows and maybe blues for numpad would be nice. Switches are PCB mounted right? So can I just pop the switches out of the board and replace them with other ones? Or is there going to be soldering involved (in which case I'm just dropping the project. Me and solder don't match, it's been tested and proved)?

    Pretty sure the Ducky is plate mounted, which means desoldering the switch. But you also have to desolder the LED in any case! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:55:39
    Quote from: HID45 on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:50:51
    Hi,

    Noob question here...

    I just got myself a nice Ducky Shine (not 2, but the original, without light memory etc). Mine's with black switches. I've been thinking that reds for arrows and maybe blues for numpad would be nice. Switches are PCB mounted right? So can I just pop the switches out of the board and replace them with other ones? Or is there going to be soldering involved (in which case I'm just dropping the project. Me and solder don't match, it's been tested and proved)?

    I think either way you'll need to desolder them. You need a specialty plate in order not to desolder switches. There are people you can contact to have soldering services done for you if you don't want to solder/desolder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:58:42
    Ok the plastic bag trick for the stab inserts worked like a charm but was not needed on the space bar.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:55:39
    Quote from: HID45 on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:50:51
    Hi,

    Noob question here...

    I just got myself a nice Ducky Shine (not 2, but the original, without light memory etc). Mine's with black switches. I've been thinking that reds for arrows and maybe blues for numpad would be nice. Switches are PCB mounted right? So can I just pop the switches out of the board and replace them with other ones? Or is there going to be soldering involved (in which case I'm just dropping the project. Me and solder don't match, it's been tested and proved)?

    I think either way you'll need to desolder them. You need a specialty plate in order not to desolder switches. There are people you can contact to have soldering services done for you if you don't want to solder/desolder.
     

    While you are at it if you get a custom plate to facilitate easy switch removal for spring and stem swaps I would reccomend getting the switch housings modded to allow for that with LED's installed.  I didn't do it when I swapped the LED's and stems / springs in my Orbweaver and I am regretting it now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:59:13
    Anyone know when the CC's from the Green Clack Sale will be shipped?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:59:39
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:59:13
    Anyone know when the CC's from the Green Clack Sale will be shipped?

    In the 4Grabs thread, he said that around 1/3 were shipped already and the rest will be done sometime next week.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:59:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:59:39
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:59:13
    Anyone know when the CC's from the Green Clack Sale will be shipped?

    In the 4Grabs thread, he said that around 1/3 were shipped already and the rest will be done sometime next week.

    Good to hear
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:02:05
    WASD caps are OEM profile. I have some Filco caps and WASD caps. Both in black. When I get home I'll take some comparison pics.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:16:55
    Was there someone here that did capslock stem mods?  I was wanting to get my stepped capslock converted to a center stem if that is possible.  Is this even done?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:20:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:16:55
    Was there someone here that did capslock stem mods?  I was wanting to get my stepped capslock converted to a center stem if that is possible.  Is this even done?

    Yes, talk to Akimbo or try and find one in a Tsangan kit. I bought a white on black stepped center stem caps lock from TechKeys and mashby was selling one from his CCnG set in the classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:23:46
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:02:05
    WASD caps are OEM profile. I have some Filco caps and WASD caps. Both in black. When I get home I'll take some comparison pics.
    Thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:24:37
    Thanks Cpt.  Obviously would be needing one for the Sanc set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:26:24
    For the Sanctuary set, you would need to get one modded. The ones on Techkeys are for more popular Cherry sets. It would be nice if these were included in more group buys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:27:52
    Or here's an idea that I might start an interest thread for if its possible: a stepped caps lock with two stems, one center and one off center. It may not be if one or the stems hits the switch housing on the way down, but I don't know the spacing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:29:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:24:37
    Thanks Cpt.  Obviously would be needing one for the Sanc set.

    Definitely talk to Akimbo. He's a cool dude and he does those mods.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:30:01
    just looked at mine and they are to close together one of the stems would hit the switch housing
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:31:10
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:27:52
    Or here's an idea that I might start an interest thread for if its possible: a stepped caps lock with two stems, one center and one off center. It may not be if one or the stems hits the switch housing on the way down, but I don't know the spacing.

    What about project scoops?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:31:40
    Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Maybe a modular one, where it includes a separate stem that inserts into one of two holes under the cap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:32:09
    now that might be a possibility
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:32:58
    You know, if I come up with a whole bunch of ICs and projects, people will be surprised when I finish one!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: speedkills on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:36:38
    Are all cherry housings exactly the same besides being plate or pcb mount?  I want to make some ergo clears with blue and clear housings and I read that I should use clear stems with my blue springs, but it didn't say which housing to use.  Does that mean it doesn't matter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:37:47
    Quote from: speedkills on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:36:38
    Are all cherry housings exactly the same besides being plate or pcb mount?  I want to make some ergo clears with blue and clear housings and I read that I should use clear stems with my blue springs, but it didn't say which housing to use.  Does that mean it doesn't matter?

    Don't think it matters


    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:32:58
    You know, if I come up with a whole bunch of ICs and projects, people will be surprised when I finish one!

    LOL
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:38:03
    MX housings are the same. You can just open them, swap the spring and stem out, and pop them back together.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:39:01
    Just get project scoops done. Just that ONE project. And everyone will love you. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:39:34
    I like the idea of the modular stem for a caps lock.  I am thinking of a couple ways to do this but both would require custom molds and or 3d printing. 

    1.  Have 4 small pins at the base of the stem on the cap.  These pins would snap into slots on the cap and just have 2 sets for the 2 positions.

    2.  Have the stem be another insert itself that if you want center or off-set stem you just pull that piece out and rotate 180 and reinsert back into the stem.  That might require some tricky stuff though so the housing for the stem doesnt' hit the switch housing

    Quote from: speedkills on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:36:38
    Are all cherry housings exactly the same besides being plate or pcb mount?  I want to make some ergo clears with blue and clear housings and I read that I should use clear stems with my blue springs, but it didn't say which housing to use.  Does that mean it doesn't matter?

    the housing does not matter all the internals on all MX switches are the same the only differences are the stems and the springs just use the housings that are already mounted if pcb mount and which ever if you have to desolder for plate mount.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:43:14
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:39:01
    Just get project scoops done. Just that ONE project. And everyone will love you. :)
    I will try to follow up on it again. This week may be a bit slow, so I may have some time.

    For the modular caps, maybe you and I should hop on IRC, melvang.We can throw ideas around. I don't think your second idea would work based solely on the shape of the cap being stepped.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:46:45
    true would probably work on a non stepped cap though.  I would love to get on IRC with you and bounce some ideas but i have to say I am up WAY past my bed time with working 12 hour days for the next week and a half or so.  Plus its 7pm to 7 am.  I probably can't give you a reliable time of when i will be on this weekend but will be on monday morning after work.

    Melvang out for the weekend

    You guys are worse crack for me than Farcebook.  and even WoW.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 April 2013, 17:38:57
    Oops, updated the wrong post. So here's a link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg869113#msg869113) to some of your questions Melvang.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lmnr on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:17:45
    I have a quick question that has bothered me for a while.

    If you were to describe a Topre switch out of the cherry mx switches which one would they be most like?

    Im decided on getting a 87u, but I was wondering if the keypress is too slow for gaming that I would need a seperate red or black keyboard for only gaming.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:19:55
    Quote from: Lmnr on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:17:45
    I have a quick question that has bothered me for a while.

    If you were to describe a Topre switch out of the cherry mx switches which one would they be most like?

    Im decided on getting a 87u, but I was wondering if the keypress is too slow for gaming that I would need a seperate red or black keyboard for only gaming.

    Not to start a flame war, but they feel like a more upscale/polished/well built rubber dome board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:20:31
    i want a topre keychain just to try the switch out
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:23:04
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:20:31
    i want a topre keychain just to try the switch out

    Dell quietkeys are less expensive/easier to come by
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:27:03
    Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:23:04
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:20:31
    i want a topre keychain just to try the switch out

    Dell quietkeys are less expensive/easier to come by

    is that a different switch? or a topre? i have a CC i can't use because i don't have a topre board xD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:34:10
    Dell Quiet Keys are rubber dome boards but apparently they're like the Topre predecessor and feel a lot like Topres.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:35:52
    ok thats what i thought. ill see if i can pick up a topre keychain at some point
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:40:00
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:35:52
    ok thats what i thought. ill see if i can pick up a topre keychain at some point

    I bought 2 realforce keychains from feng, he may still have some.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:40:33
    Quote from: Lmnr on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:17:45
    I have a quick question that has bothered me for a while.

    If you were to describe a Topre switch out of the cherry mx switches which one would they be most like?

    Im decided on getting a 87u, but I was wondering if the keypress is too slow for gaming that I would need a seperate red or black keyboard for only gaming.

    Yeah, they are not like any Cherry switch at all, not even close. The switch feels like a rubber dome, because that's what it is. I'm not saying a Topre board is the same as a rubber dome board. And they call it a cup, instead of a dome.

    But several people do use them for gaming. :)


    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:27:03
    Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:23:04
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:20:31
    i want a topre keychain just to try the switch out

    Dell quietkeys are less expensive/easier to come by

    is that a different switch? or a topre? i have a CC i can't use because i don't have a topre board xD

    Just trade it for an MX CC?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:42:12
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:43:45
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:27:03
    Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:23:04
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:20:31
    i want a topre keychain just to try the switch out

    Dell quietkeys are less expensive/easier to come by

    is that a different switch? or a topre? i have a CC i can't use because i don't have a topre board xD

    Just trade it for an MX CC?
    [/quote]

    That's usually pretty hard to do. Maybe these new Leo's will saturate the market more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:44:19
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:44:38
    Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:40:00
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:35:52
    ok thats what i thought. ill see if i can pick up a topre keychain at some point

    I bought 2 realforce keychains from feng, he may still have some.

    ill look into it

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:40:33
    Just trade it for an MX CC?

    yeah..think i'm going to do that really soon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:46:36
    Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:44:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:40:33
    And they call it a cup, instead of a dome.
    Oh? Are they full of liquid? Are they concave side up?

    If you make a mistake, they squirt you in the eye. That's where the elitist mentality comes from. They dry ones think the're hot ****.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:58:37
    Quote from: Lmnr on Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:17:45
    I have a quick question that has bothered me for a while.

    If you were to describe a Topre switch out of the cherry mx switches which one would they be most like?

    Im decided on getting a 87u, but I was wondering if the keypress is too slow for gaming that I would need a seperate red or black keyboard for only gaming.

    TT1 and I believe SKMC (professional SC2 players) played with Topre in competition if that means anything to you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:00:15
    I want to trade my Topre CC, mainly because i can't use it, but i don't wanna be seen as rarar-like or something.

    i guess i'll wait it out.

    question for the main thread:

    any differences in a Vintage Black on Beige Cherry DS set and a GMK Cherry Replica Black on Beige DS set (that sherry has)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:03:22
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:00:15
    any differences in a Vintage Black on Beige Cherry DS set and a GMK Cherry Replica Black on Beige DS set (that sherry has)?
    Aside from the tab button I don't think there's a single difference - Sherry chose a different tab icon for some stupid reason.

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:00:15
    I want to trade my Topre CC, mainly because i can't use it, but i don't wanna be seen as rarar-like or something.
    The difference is that rarar whined to get the damn dibs code. He shouldn't have got the cap in the first place. You, on the other hand, got your cap fairly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:06:52
    ok..might go for sherry's set then..


    and all i really want is a mx julysicle, so at least i have trading fodder now. i'm still happy i have one, but if i could even use it, it would be sick
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:08:34
    Most Vintage Cherry black on beige sets I've seen have the A profile bottom row (more of an angle), whereas sherry's has B profile bottom row (same as the row above it).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:09:12
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:06:52
    ok..might go for sherry's set then..
    Go for it. Brand new caps with original tooling & a slightly different tab > possibility of having shiny, yellowed old abs keys imo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lmnr on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:21:32
    Ok that should be enough information lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:23:44
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:09:12
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:06:52
    ok..might go for sherry's set then..
    Go for it. Brand new caps with original tooling & a slightly different tab > possibility of having shiny, yellowed old abs keys imo.

    yeah i think i was gonna go for that. i thought the spacing was fugged up with the sherry sets for a sec this morning, but they look good. don't want any spacing issues hehe
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Sat, 27 April 2013, 15:24:17
    about how difficult would it be to add LEDs to a poker?

    does the PCB support it, or will this involve some funky wiring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 27 April 2013, 15:27:30
    If you're referring to adding additional LEDs not supported by the poker, you'll have to run them to one of the current LED power or to the USB.

    Here is the WASD to Esc mod WhiteFireDragon did for me.
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img35/5338/wasdmod.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 April 2013, 16:26:52
    If I have a custom keyboard, and I want to have different color LEDs, how do I set that up? I read that I need to setup different voltages? Is this controlled by diodes or something else?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 16:34:24
    What color LEDs were you thinking? Resistors are what controls the lower voltages.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sat, 27 April 2013, 16:43:43
    Will Filco TKL cases fit a QFR? If not, do they make aluminum cases for the QFR anywhere?
    Also... how heavy are zinc keycaps? For instance, they wouldnt make cherry blacks feel like cherry reds would they?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 April 2013, 17:01:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 April 2013, 16:26:52
    If I have a custom keyboard, and I want to have different color LEDs, how do I set that up? I read that I need to setup different voltages? Is this controlled by diodes or something else?

    Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 16:34:24
    What color LEDs were you thinking? Resistors are what controls the lower voltages.

    Green and Cyan LEDs.

    I was asking for Glissant and apparently there's no difference between the two LEDs.  Carry on.

    Quote from: Rule16 on Sat, 27 April 2013, 16:43:43
    Will Filco TKL cases fit a QFR? If not, do they make aluminum cases for the QFR anywhere?

    Pretty sure the only issue is that the QFR USB is detachable and the Filco cables aren't. Vortex aluminum cases will fit the QFR and are sold on MechanicalKeyboards.com. I wouldn't recommend though. I wasn't impressed with the quality.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lmnr on Sat, 27 April 2013, 19:50:46
    (directed to owners of realforces)
    Sorry to intrude but I took the plunge and got a 87u, is the abs spacebar gonna be an issue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WatchMaker on Sat, 27 April 2013, 22:21:09
    ducky shine 2 says key width 12.6 mm
    Is that measuring the top or bottom of the keycap?


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 April 2013, 22:30:24
    Quote from: Lmnr on Sat, 27 April 2013, 19:50:46
    (directed to owners of realforces)
    Sorry to intrude but I took the plunge and got a 87u, is the abs spacebar gonna be an issue?

    Problem how? Can you clarify?


    Quote from: WatchMaker on Sat, 27 April 2013, 22:21:09
    ducky shine 2 says key width 12.6 mm
    Is that measuring the top or bottom of the keycap?

    I think its the base/bottom front-face width.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 22:32:37
    If he's asking whether it's going to shine faster than the rest of the set, well, ABS tends to do that. And it seems to me, spacebars are especially prone to it in the one spot on always touch it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lmnr on Sat, 27 April 2013, 23:00:40
    Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 22:32:37
    If he's asking whether it's going to shine faster than the rest of the set, well, ABS tends to do that. And it seems to me, spacebars are especially prone to it in the one spot on always touch it.

    Yea, I was wondering since only the spacebar is abs that maybe its not too bad but I guess ill find out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: speedkills on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:26:58

    [/quote]

    the housing does not matter all the internals on all MX switches are the same the only differences are the stems and the springs just use the housings that are already mounted if pcb mount and which ever if you have to desolder for plate mount.

    Melvang

    [/quote]

    Perfect, that means I don't have to wait for the new keys, thanks.

    -Shane
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:44:13
    Are there plates designed for full-sized keyboards that allow for the removal of the switch top?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: speedkills on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:46:07
    Are any Cherry keys PCB compatible with any other brands of keys?  Everyone talks about switching between Cherry colors but are there other brands of keys that can be swapped out with Cherry's with a little soldering?  My girl actually loves the feeling of scissor keys and I was curious if I could take a keyboard made for Cherry's like the ergodox and put something with a higher activation point on them, say an Alps for example.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:46:35
    Quote from: infiniti on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:44:13
    Are there plates designed for full-sized keyboards that allow for the removal of the switch top?

    Nope. The only custom plates I've seen that allow switch top removal are TKL sized and below
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Sun, 28 April 2013, 05:13:34
    I know it's only partially relevant here, but I was wondering maybe I should start learning to solder. Could be a useful skill for many things, including keyboards. However I have no clue about electronics except I heard of amper, voltage, watts and I barely remember what resistance does from school.
    I looked at some soldering irons / stations and there's a wide variety, from 10 to 100 watt, and from (europe) 230v to lower voltage ones...
    How does one make sense for it? What value should I aim for, in a soldering iron, let's say concerning pcbs/keyboards? In some situations lower power might not be enough, higher might burn stuff. Are these always configurable, like 50w means it can do 50 and lower?
    If one wants to be able to desolder at some point (I think inevitable if we talk about keyboards, at some point one may want to change switches or whatnot), is there any special requirement for that in a soldering iron?

    I know some of these can be had for very cheap on the other hand some people say don't even bother doing any good work with cheapest ones especially desoldering. Any truth to that? Is this a 100$ ticket really or it's just a slight exaggeration? I think an important question unless one does any serious work at least few hours a week...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iri on Sun, 28 April 2013, 05:20:21
    Quote from: Lmnr on Sat, 27 April 2013, 19:50:46
    (directed to owners of realforces)
    Sorry to intrude but I took the plunge and got a 87u, is the abs spacebar gonna be an issue?
    no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 28 April 2013, 05:47:18
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:46:35
    Quote from: infiniti on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:44:13
    Are there plates designed for full-sized keyboards that allow for the removal of the switch top?

    Nope. The only custom plates I've seen that allow switch top removal are TKL sized and below

    Alright.  Thanks for verifying that for me. 

    Oh well, time to make my own!  :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 28 April 2013, 10:00:12
    Quote from: Bencze on Sun, 28 April 2013, 05:13:34
    I know it's only partially relevant here, but I was wondering maybe I should start learning to solder. Could be a useful skill for many things, including keyboards. However I have no clue about electronics except I heard of amper, voltage, watts and I barely remember what resistance does from school.
    I looked at some soldering irons / stations and there's a wide variety, from 10 to 100 watt, and from (europe) 230v to lower voltage ones...
    How does one make sense for it? What value should I aim for, in a soldering iron, let's say concerning pcbs/keyboards? In some situations lower power might not be enough, higher might burn stuff. Are these always configurable, like 50w means it can do 50 and lower?
    If one wants to be able to desolder at some point (I think inevitable if we talk about keyboards, at some point one may want to change switches or whatnot), is there any special requirement for that in a soldering iron?

    I know some of these can be had for very cheap on the other hand some people say don't even bother doing any good work with cheapest ones especially desoldering. Any truth to that? Is this a 100$ ticket really or it's just a slight exaggeration? I think an important question unless one does any serious work at least few hours a week...

    I would highly recommend reading through this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) to get some info. Feel free to come back if you think you'd like more questions answered but I really think that thread is a solid beginner's guide for soldering equipment.


    Quote from: speedkills on Sun, 28 April 2013, 04:46:07
    Are any Cherry keys PCB compatible with any other brands of keys?  Everyone talks about switching between Cherry colors but are there other brands of keys that can be swapped out with Cherry's with a little soldering?  My girl actually loves the feeling of scissor keys and I was curious if I could take a keyboard made for Cherry's like the ergodox and put something with a higher activation point on them, say an Alps for example.

    No. Cherry MX PCBs only fit Cherry MX Switches. Hence why there is a seperate discussion/IC about having GH60-Alps and a GH60-ML variants.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 28 April 2013, 11:58:30
    Does anyone know how much voltage is normally supplied to the power LED on the case?  I know it might vary between motherboards but just asking before I tear into mine to find out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BADBADNOTGOOD on Sun, 28 April 2013, 15:15:19
    Can you buy alps switches by themselves like you can cherry switches or will you need a donor board?

    (I know they are out of production but i want to know if its still possible)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 28 April 2013, 15:22:07
    Quote from: BADBADNOTGOOD on Sun, 28 April 2013, 15:15:19
    Can you buy alps switches by themselves like you can cherry switches or will you need a donor board?

    (I know they are out of production but i want to know if its still possible)

    I've seen 7bit selling them at Deskthority.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 28 April 2013, 15:33:54
    Quote from: BADBADNOTGOOD on Sun, 28 April 2013, 15:15:19
    Can you buy alps switches by themselves like you can cherry switches or will you need a donor board?

    (I know they are out of production but i want to know if its still possible)

    I bought a bunch of donor boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 28 April 2013, 15:39:10
    Also, people are buying the Matias switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BADBADNOTGOOD on Sun, 28 April 2013, 16:39:06
    Quote from: esoomenona on Sun, 28 April 2013, 15:39:10
    Also, people are buying the Matias switches.

    How do you order just the switches from their website?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 28 April 2013, 17:47:07
    Quote from: BADBADNOTGOOD on Sun, 28 April 2013, 16:39:06
    Quote from: esoomenona on Sun, 28 April 2013, 15:39:10
    Also, people are buying the Matias switches.

    How do you order just the switches from their website?

    They apparently took the switches off their website.  Before they were here (http://matias.ca/products/).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sun, 28 April 2013, 18:11:01
    Will my Quickfire TK burn the Nexus 10 battery (The blacklight i am talking of) if I use otg to connect it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BADBADNOTGOOD on Sun, 28 April 2013, 19:38:58
    Quote from: linziyi on Sun, 28 April 2013, 18:11:01
    Will my Quickfire TK burn the Nexus 10 battery (The blacklight i am talking of) if I use otg to connect it?

    I doubt it. The nexus has quite a beefy battery. I have seen people plug a mouse and keyboard in at the same time with no troubles. My nexus 7 has an external ssd which doesnt seem to have much of an effect on battery life as far as i can tell.

    But i guess there is only one way to find out...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sun, 28 April 2013, 19:43:46
    Quote from: BADBADNOTGOOD on Sun, 28 April 2013, 19:38:58
    Quote from: linziyi on Sun, 28 April 2013, 18:11:01
    Will my Quickfire TK burn the Nexus 10 battery (The blacklight i am talking of) if I use otg to connect it?

    I doubt it. The nexus has quite a beefy battery. I have seen people plug a mouse and keyboard in at the same time with no troubles. My nexus 7 has an external ssd which doesnt seem to have much of an effect on battery life as far as i can tell.

    But i guess there is only one way to find out...

    ^.^ i'll try
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 28 April 2013, 23:00:40
    If i remove a switch from the matrix, do I have to install a jumper across the pads where the pins would be at for the rest of the keys in that row/column to work?

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 28 April 2013, 23:02:03
    No.  If you installed a jumper, it would be as if the switch was always pressed.  That's not what you want.  You want the switch to be /never/ pressed, which means just leave it open.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: L4yercake on Sun, 28 April 2013, 23:09:03
    Where does one find double-shot WoB 1.5 Cherry Modifiers and pricing? I've found a lasered set but I'd much rather have a matching set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 28 April 2013, 23:36:05
    Quote from: L4yercake on Sun, 28 April 2013, 23:09:03
    Where does one find double-shot WoB 1.5 Cherry Modifiers and pricing? I've found a lasered set but I'd much rather have a matching set.
    Onedoesnotsimply.jpg
    When I bought my set I had been searching for months. Sometimes they come up on eBay on 1800 variant boards. Last one I saw was $75 BIN.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 29 April 2013, 09:26:59
    White on black with 1.5 from 1800 on taobao (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.82.giR5U4&id=18452947191), says there is 7 stock I think...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 29 April 2013, 09:54:48
    Is that listing just for those 5 caps? Or a whole set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 29 April 2013, 10:37:18
    SmallFry showed me that listing; it was a keyboard w/ the full set. Kinda like how ppl buy MY7000
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bry on Mon, 29 April 2013, 10:44:13
    Quote from: Bencze on Sun, 28 April 2013, 05:13:34
    I know it's only partially relevant here, but I was wondering maybe I should start learning to solder. Could be a useful skill for many things, including keyboards. However I have no clue about electronics except I heard of amper, voltage, watts and I barely remember what resistance does from school.
    I looked at some soldering irons / stations and there's a wide variety, from 10 to 100 watt, and from (europe) 230v to lower voltage ones...
    How does one make sense for it? What value should I aim for, in a soldering iron, let's say concerning pcbs/keyboards? In some situations lower power might not be enough, higher might burn stuff. Are these always configurable, like 50w means it can do 50 and lower?
    If one wants to be able to desolder at some point (I think inevitable if we talk about keyboards, at some point one may want to change switches or whatnot), is there any special requirement for that in a soldering iron?

    I know some of these can be had for very cheap on the other hand some people say don't even bother doing any good work with cheapest ones especially desoldering. Any truth to that? Is this a 100$ ticket really or it's just a slight exaggeration? I think an important question unless one does any serious work at least few hours a week...

    If you're going to be taking switches off the pcb, get a solder pump. It'll make your life a lot easier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 29 April 2013, 10:46:48
    Topre is capacitive. You don't need to solder Topre switches. My bad, looks like you quoted the wrong person before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HID45 on Mon, 29 April 2013, 13:21:47
    Is there a company which could deliver custom keyboard with multiple switch types and backlighting? I know WASD, but they don't do backlighting, different types of switches in the same board, and for some reason, no MX reds which would be my choice for letter and arrow switches (then blues for numpad and blacks for all the rest).

    Is there a company that could make such board, or is the only way to DIY by trial and error? Which, in my case would be far more expensive, even if the commercial custom board would cost a fortune.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 29 April 2013, 13:24:51
    Quote from: HID45 on Mon, 29 April 2013, 13:21:47
    Is there a company which could deliver custom keyboard with multiple switch types and backlighting? I know WASD, but they don't do backlighting, different types of switches in the same board, and for some reason, no MX reds which would be my choice for letter and arrow switches (then blues for numpad and blacks for all the rest).

    Is there a company that could make such board, or is the only way to DIY by trial and error? Which, in my case would be far more expensive, even if the commercial custom board would cost a fortune.

    Ducky has a few hybrid boards and I think the Ducky 78 has backlighting. But they're not setup in the fashion you want. I think the WASD V2 will offer backlighting. Your best option is to mod a board yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Mon, 29 April 2013, 18:27:42
    There are several sources to mod your board if you're uncomfortable doing it.

    WFD, JD, Mimic, Prof, Daniel are ones with established work done.

    I'm going to start modding boards for people soon if you're interested.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 29 April 2013, 18:44:04
    I can also solder, but I'm a bit backed up currently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 29 April 2013, 18:47:40
    Quote from: SmallFry on Mon, 29 April 2013, 18:44:04
    I can also solder, but I'm a bit backed up currently.
    Maybe some Metamucil or something? You can still solder on the john, no?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 29 April 2013, 18:50:43
    I'm also about fully set up to start taking Mod orders as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 29 April 2013, 18:51:22
    I'm up for modding, but I need to buy my own iron soon instead of mooching of lab irons across campus
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 29 April 2013, 19:06:12
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 29 April 2013, 18:47:40
    Quote from: SmallFry on Mon, 29 April 2013, 18:44:04
    I can also solder, but I'm a bit backed up currently.
    Maybe some Metamucil or something? You can still solder on the john, no?
    Heh, thanks for the laugh.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Tue, 30 April 2013, 04:12:22
    Why is geekhack named geekhack? It's sucha wierd name, especially for a keyboard forum. Why is geekhack not named keyboardhack? Or something like that. It would be more logical.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 04:25:12
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 30 April 2013, 04:12:22
    Why is geekhack named geekhack? It's sucha wierd name, especially for a keyboard forum. Why is geekhack not named keyboardhack? Or something like that. It would be more logical.

    Because the name allows us to make custom G and H keys which looks really cool :P

    Really though? I'm not sure why. It's just a name? ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 05:02:09
    ***ANNOUNCING THE SIMPLE QUESTIONS, SIMPLE ANSWERS GIVEAWAY***

    I'm really pleased with how this thread has turned out. I actually made this thread on a whim while talking to SmallFry in IRC. And the thread idea was taken from a similar thread on TeamLiquid. Like all great ideas that I seem to have, this was spawned in IRC as well; while I was talking to dubsgalore.

    Right now the thread has 1154 replies and 14k views. Whomever gets the 1300th reply, I will send you some goodies. Whether you have 1 posts or 1000 posts, I'll send you something keyboard-related out of my collection of stuff (right now I'm thinking some Geekhack stickers and caps but I've got some goodies incoming so maybe that might change). I'll keep an eye on the reply count and I'll PM the winner when I see it. If I happen to reply at 1300, the next person who isn't me will win. And yes, this is open to international too.

    Hell yeah kids, Keep that knowledge hunt going. Keep asking questions :D  Let's make moves


    UPDATE: CONGRATS TO MOOSE!

    He hit the magical 1300th post!! And I will be gifting him a Mimic cable from TechKeys (http://www.techkeys.us/accessories.php). I might do more giveways in this thread later but again, congrats to esoomenona for winning the prize!

    (http://i.imgur.com/7LSalfB.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:05:00
    Realistically how long does it take to swap all the keycaps on a keyboard?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:07:00
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:05:00
    Realistically how long does it take to swap all the keycaps on a keyboard?

    If it's Cherry MX, it takes me around 45 minutes but I'm usually on IRC/GH/watching a stream as well. Alps caps are stuck on REAL TIGHT and it took me way longer to pop all those off; around 90 mins. I was so afraid of snapping/breaking the spacebar and stabilized modifier caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:11:05
    Simple question: how does I signature?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keymaster on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:12:26
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:05:00
    Realistically how long does it take to swap all the keycaps on a keyboard?

    It depends. I have cherry profile keycaps and they basically fly off. I can remove about 3 keycaps every 5 seconds, so it takes less than 3 minutes to get them all off. It probably takes me twice that much to put them back on since I have to put them in the right place on the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:17:44
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:11:05
    Simple question: how does I signature?

    Simple Answer: One does not simply signature :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:22:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:17:44
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:11:05
    Simple question: how does I signature?

    Simple Answer: One does not simply signature :P

    no really....do we have a thread or wiki page or something with bbcode examples or whatever is used on this forum to make colorful signatures etc?  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:25:41
    bb code is really general. If you Google it, you will find tons of info. Good luck!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:28:32
    how do you post a link but have the clickable link say something different.  IE a link to a google search page but the link in the forum post just says here.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:30:26
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:25:41
    bb code is really general. If you Google it, you will find tons of info. Good luck!

    I did that before I posted.  I tried some but it didn't work  :cool: I've never been good at coding  :p

    here is some good info if anyone else is interested....  ;D

    http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Basic_Bulletin_Board_Codes

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:28:32
    how do you post a link but have the clickable link say something different.  IE a link to a google search page but the link in the forum post just says here.

    Melvang

    Code: [Select]
    [url=geekhack.org]show this text[/url]
    show this text (http://geekhack.org)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:40:47
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:22:41

    no really....do we have a thread or wiki page or something with bbcode examples or whatever is used on this forum to make colorful signatures etc?  :-[

    I love this guide from TeamLiquid (http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=336805). I believe my switch review has another link as well. You can check my Wiki in my sig for that. A list of bbcode colors can be found here (http://absitomen.com/index.php?topic=331.0).

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:28:32
    how do you post a link but have the clickable link say something different.  IE a link to a google search page but the link in the forum post just says here.

    Melvang

    The bbcode is |url=PUTURLHERE|PUTTEXTHERE[/url]
    Replace the | with an open [ and closed ]

    So after the "url=" you put the link you want and between the ] [ you can put whatever text you want to appear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:42:32
    Click on the Preview button next to Post below. There are many formatting buttons. Try clicking them and see what code does what. Remember you have to close them on the reverse order you opened them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:44:29
    There's no preview button in Tapatalk :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:53:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 07:44:29
    There's no preview button in Tapatalk :(

    Me + Tapatalk + GeekHack = :confused: :'( :-\ :-X >:D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 08:01:46
    >2013
    >Using Tapatalk instead of the full site in browser
    >...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 April 2013, 08:13:49
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 08:01:46
    >2013
    >Using Tapatalk instead of the full site in browser
    >...

    what you saying moose?  :eek:  :confused:  :p
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 08:49:08
    You remember the days when browsers on phones were complete crap and you couldn't do anything with them? Then we got full browsers on smart phones that do everything you can do on a computer. And people are still using things to condense all the info.

    Nah, I'm not saying anything. Apps are easy to use and have tons of uses. I just prefer the full site.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 30 April 2013, 08:52:53
    I can't stand Safari or Anything really on my Phone. If it's urgent, i'll go on GH on Safari, but usually i just stick to my Desktop/Laptop
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 08:53:48
    You're right. Browsing on the iPhone is considerably worse. If you're using an iPhone, please disregard my views on Tapatalk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lunartuna on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:02:12
    I still have problems with some sites on my phone browser even though its a "full" browser. Also I cant stand typing on my phones touchcreen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:04:07
    I really only just use safari for emergencies or for PM's. Never to browse. too frustrating
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:05:03
    On topic please guys :D   :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:09:54
    Is there a program that analyzes the way a person types to see if there might be some way to improve?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:15:54
    can i change my cherry mx blue spring with cherry mx green spring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:16:29
    Quote from: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:15:54
    can i change my cherry mx blue spring with cherry mx green spring?

    I don't see why not. Just gotta desolder the switches and open the case up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:16:30
    Quote from: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:15:54
    can i change my cherry mx blue spring with cherry mx green spring?

    yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:16:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:16:29
    Quote from: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:15:54
    can i change my cherry mx blue spring with cherry mx green spring?

    I don't see why not. Just gotta desolder the switches and open the case up.

    If it's plate mount, just open the top of the switch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:35:43
    woww thx for the really fast responses  ;D
    but on the ripster images i saw that the blue spring is slightly taller than the green spring. is that okay?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:36:56
    Quote from: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:35:43
    woww thx for the really fast responses  ;D
    but on the ripster images i saw that the blue spring is slightly taller than the green spring. is that okay?

    The springs can compress and be stretched.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:43:58
    Quote from: The_Beast on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:16:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:16:29
    Quote from: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:15:54
    can i change my cherry mx blue spring with cherry mx green spring?

    I don't see why not. Just gotta desolder the switches and open the case up.

    If it's plate mount, just open the top of the switch

    btw my keyboard is fc700r, is it possible to open the top housing without desoldering the switch?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:36:56
    Quote from: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:35:43
    woww thx for the really fast responses  ;D
    but on the ripster images i saw that the blue spring is slightly taller than the green spring. is that okay?

    The springs can compress and be stretched.

    thx, i really appreciate it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:56:51
    Quote from: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:43:58
    Quote from: The_Beast on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:16:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:16:29
    Quote from: ekirayuki on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:15:54
    can i change my cherry mx blue spring with cherry mx green spring?

    I don't see why not. Just gotta desolder the switches and open the case up.

    If it's plate mount, just open the top of the switch

    btw my keyboard is fc700r, is it possible to open the top housing without desoldering the switch?


    No, you'll need a custom plate in order to do that. You'll have to desolder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 30 April 2013, 16:37:31
    Wanna paint my QFR cover, can I just spray paint it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 16:38:59
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 30 April 2013, 16:37:31
    Wanna paint my QFR cover, can I just spray paint it?

    If you rough the surface with sandpaper, it'll accept the paint better. I believe you'll wanna do primer and paint but I'll double check.

    Step 1) Sand the surface
    Step 2) Clean with alcohol
    Step 3) Primer unless you have spraypaint that adheres to plastic; use multiple layers as necessary
    Step 4) Put paint on. If spraypaint, just spray, let it dry, and repeat. If car paint, try and use very thin layers and then let it dry for about 30 mins in between layers.
    Step 5) Clear coat/matte finish to protect the paint


    Quick walkthrough from Glissant <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 30 April 2013, 16:50:16
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 30 April 2013, 16:37:31
    Wanna paint my QFR cover, can I just spray paint it?

    You'll need to completely sand off the rubberizer from the shell, get the plastic roughed up a little, then use a finer grit sandpaper on it to give the primer something to grab hold of, but not make the paint look uneven when it's dried.  For the primer, I'd recommend Montana Gold Plastic Primer (http://www.amazon.com/Montana-Spray-Universal-Plastic-Primer/dp/B008UGG6XG) (you should be able to find it cheaper locally, that's just so you know what you're looking for) since I know it works well and doesn't react with the plastic or their paint.  For the paint, I prefer Montana Gold since it's not too expensive, gets awesome even coverage, dries quickly, has great caps that give you good control, and looks good when all is said and done.  It's what I used for my Cyan painted QFR (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40937.msg827642#msg827642).  If you can't find Montana Gold, Krylon Fusion is supposed to be good.  I wasn't super impressed with it when I did some computer case modding though.  After that, just toss a clear coat on it and/or some clear PlastiDip.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 30 April 2013, 16:50:45
    Nubbinator is the guy to talk to about QFR Customization :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 17:03:04
    Which switches need no disoldering to dismount them from their respective PCB/Steel plate/plastic plate?
    Alps
    Acer switch
    Fujitsu peerless
    Cherry MY
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 17:05:27
    Quote from: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 17:03:04
    Which switches need no disoldering to dismount them from their respective PCB/Steel plate/plastic plate?
    Alps
    Acer switch
    Fujitsu peerless
    Cherry MY

    None of them? The custom plates for MX switches that The_Beast and WFD make allow for no desoldering. Otherwise, I think you need to desolder all other switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:40:55
    Whenever there is a ebay auction, koreans get to participate and buy them eventually in some cases.
    Why is that?
    I mean, spanish keyboards? german layouts? arabic layouts? what for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:42:53
    Quote from: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:40:55
    Whenever there is a ebay auction, koreans get to participate and buy them eventually in some cases.
    Why is that?
    I mean, spanish keyboards? german layouts? arabic layouts? what for.

    Because eBay is open for people around the world to buy from?  Not sure what you're trying to ask here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:45:01
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:42:53
    Quote from: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:40:55
    Whenever there is a ebay auction, koreans get to participate and buy them eventually in some cases.
    Why is that?
    I mean, spanish keyboards? german layouts? arabic layouts? what for.

    Because eBay is open for people around the world to buy from?  Not sure what you're trying to ask here.

    yes. although they are not a big country. I thought they had many collectors of mechanical keyboards because of starcraft or something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:47:30
    Quote from: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:45:01
    yes. although they are not a big country. I thought they had many collectors of mechanical keyboards because of starcraft or something.

    It has nothing to do with Starcraft and everything to do with a love for technology and plenty of mech keyboard enthusiasts there.  In fact, there are plenty of Starcraft players who still use cheap $10 rubber dome keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:49:00
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:47:30
    Quote from: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:45:01
    yes. although they are not a big country. I thought they had many collectors of mechanical keyboards because of starcraft or something.

    It has nothing to do with Starcraft and everything to do with a love for technology and plenty of mech keyboard enthusiasts there.  In fact, there are plenty of Starcraft players who still use cheap $10 rubber dome keyboards.

    Oh, that's a clarifying answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:35:14
    I'm not the best photographer, nor did I have the best light available to me but what set are these caps from?

    It's not black, as I put the black kids club and a grey cap there as well for reference.

    (http://i.imgur.com/nb9Oaxo.jpg?1)
    (http://i.imgur.com/q6WPEVy.jpg?1)

    The two shifts, pause break, delete, and prt scrn are all the same shade. Tab might be the same color, but with the centered legend looks like it might be apart of a R1-4 dolch set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:39:22
    The dark grey look like Graphite, the green shift and yellow from a RGB set, grey/blue most likely from SoWaRe, and I'll take that Kids Club cap off of your hands now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:50:56
    I thought it was graphite as well, but I thought the graphite was a little more blue?

    Kids Club and the SoWaRe caps are mine :P I learned my keycap lessons after selling an OTD hand cap that was from a RA set IIRC. Nooby me didn't know what it was.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 30 April 2013, 21:45:16
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 30 April 2013, 16:50:16
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 30 April 2013, 16:37:31
    Wanna paint my QFR cover, can I just spray paint it?

    You'll need to completely sand off the rubberizer from the shell, get the plastic roughed up a little, then use a finer grit sandpaper on it to give the primer something to grab hold of, but not make the paint look uneven when it's dried.  For the primer, I'd recommend Montana Gold Plastic Primer (http://www.amazon.com/Montana-Spray-Universal-Plastic-Primer/dp/B008UGG6XG) (you should be able to find it cheaper locally, that's just so you know what you're looking for) since I know it works well and doesn't react with the plastic or their paint.  For the paint, I prefer Montana Gold since it's not too expensive, gets awesome even coverage, dries quickly, has great caps that give you good control, and looks good when all is said and done.  It's what I used for my Cyan painted QFR (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40937.msg827642#msg827642).  If you can't find Montana Gold, Krylon Fusion is supposed to be good.  I wasn't super impressed with it when I did some computer case modding though.  After that, just toss a clear coat on it and/or some clear PlastiDip.

    awesome thanks! I'll give that a shot this weekend or something


    still thinking about the color tho....
    what cover goes well with CCnG or RA2? White/Beige?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 21:51:17
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:09:54
    Is there a program that analyzes the way a person types to see if there might be some way to improve?

    I saw something on Mouz.Illusion's (Pro-SC2 player) stream that showed what keys were being typed but I'm not sure what that program is called.

    Quote from: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:40:55
    Whenever there is a ebay auction, koreans get to participate and buy them eventually in some cases.
    Why is that?
    I mean, spanish keyboards? german layouts? arabic layouts? what for.

    I'm pretty sure eBay isn't region specific and ppl like to collect keyboards. Why not?

    Quote from: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:49:00
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:47:30
    Quote from: Mandolin on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:45:01
    yes. although they are not a big country. I thought they had many collectors of mechanical keyboards because of starcraft or something.

    It has nothing to do with Starcraft and everything to do with a love for technology and plenty of mech keyboard enthusiasts there.  In fact, there are plenty of Starcraft players who still use cheap $10 rubber dome keyboards.

    Oh, that's a clarifying answer.

    Many StarCraft 2 players swear by the QT-35; the cheap $10 rubber dome board common in South Korea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 01 May 2013, 09:16:50
    I collect different language layouts though I do not type in them for the most part. In some cases a certain colorway of keycap is only available from a particular keyboard. Sometimes those are only offered in a particular region.
    So far I have key sets in US, US/RU, FR, CH, ES, DE, IT, GB. Out of those I only speak Russian and French, though refuse to use azerty for French typing. If it was ever made by Cherry in doubleshot or dyesub, I want it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 01 May 2013, 09:41:17
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:09:54
    Is there a program that analyzes the way a person types to see if there might be some way to improve?

    RSIguard (http://www.rsiguard.com/) is one that focuses on injury prevention.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HID45 on Wed, 01 May 2013, 09:51:59
    What's the best place to order Cherry MX switces inside EU?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 May 2013, 10:11:55
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 01 May 2013, 09:41:17
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:09:54
    Is there a program that analyzes the way a person types to see if there might be some way to improve?

    RSIguard (http://www.rsiguard.com/) is one that focuses on injury prevention.

    Thanks will check this out  :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoxWolf1 on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:59:17
    On a TKL or smaller keyboard, where does your right pinky rest while you're using the arrow keys? I typically use NumPad 0 for that purpose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:00:37
    My pinky is under the 0, sort of curled down.

    Also: how does I custom title?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:50:13
    Quote from: FoxWolf1 on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:59:17
    On a TKL or smaller keyboard, where does your right pinky rest while you're using the arrow keys? I typically use NumPad 0 for that purpose.

    Mine just gets held in the air.

    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:00:37
    Also: how does I custom title?

    Ask missalaire but I think the mods have you grant you that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:51:58
    Quote from: FoxWolf1 on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:59:17
    On a TKL or smaller keyboard, where does your right pinky rest while you're using the arrow keys? I typically use NumPad 0 for that purpose.
    on the case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Thu, 02 May 2013, 05:41:01
    I will get a set of SP CCnGs gopefully, but I was wondering what kind of key caps should I try next. Afaik these are the SP-height ABS so I will still need to try Cherry height, and PBT plastic.
    Not exactly sure but perhaps I should try stealth style so it forces me to learn to type a bit more.

    Please post some recommendations! :) I know Imsto has some keycaps that are usually recommended quality, although I only found his Taobao shop and keycaps are also kinda expensive, if I calculated right a set would be like 90$. Is this normal price for these kind of caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 05:49:18
    Quote from: Bencze on Thu, 02 May 2013, 05:41:01
    I will get a set of SP CCnGs gopefully, but I was wondering what kind of key caps should I try next. Afaik these are the SP-height ABS so I will still need to try Cherry height, and PBT plastic.
    Not exactly sure but perhaps I should try stealth style so it forces me to learn to type a bit more.

    Please post some recommendations! :) I know Imsto has some keycaps that are usually recommended quality, although I only found his Taobao shop and keycaps are also kinda expensive, if I calculated right a set would be like 90$. Is this normal price for these kind of caps?

    Most 104 keycap sets go for around $100. Only time they go for less is if you get in on a GB. But even then, the tenkey and tsangan kit will often bump the price up quite a bit since there is less demand for them.

    Other keycap types include POM, Cherry doubleshots, thin PBT. And if you want to learn to touch type but are afraid to go full ninja/otaku/blank, then go for side printed caps.

    Since you mentioned imsto cherry caps, I'd highly recommend those. I scored my TKL set for $55 so I got a really good deal.

    And this can be a very subjective topic, not exactly a simple question but I'll bite and leave you a huge paragraph anyways :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 06:32:26
    Which vintage switches are the rarest and priced the highest or get crazy prices in ebay auctions?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 06:52:33
    Quote from: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 06:32:26
    Which vintage switches are the rarest and priced the highest or get crazy prices in ebay auctions?

    Pricing questions shouldn't be asked here. Please refer to the OP for a thread where you can ask that.

    Quote from: HID45 on Wed, 01 May 2013, 09:51:59
    What's the best place to order Cherry MX switces inside EU?

    For the MX White GB, CommunistWitchDr bought the Whites from RapidOnline. The link for that GB can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42415.msg853745#msg853745). I believe Mouser carries them too and I think they're based in the EU.


    Quote from: phx on Tue, 30 April 2013, 21:45:16
    still thinking about the color tho....
    what cover goes well with CCnG or RA2? White/Beige?

    I like the contrast between Black and White. Klaxon on my Black Filco is hot. White would be great as well. You could also try Graphite or Grey. I think the FC700R Graphite color is really nice. Neutral but it's not black.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 02 May 2013, 06:59:07
    Probably hall effect.
    /me sticks tongue out at CPTBadAss
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 07:01:23
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 02 May 2013, 06:59:07
    Probably hall effect.
    /me sticks tongue out at CPTBadAss

    I heard it's HHKB lite, you little troll :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Thu, 02 May 2013, 07:45:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 05:49:18
    Most 104 keycap sets go for around $100. Only time they go for less is if you get in on a GB. But even then, the tenkey and tsangan kit will often bump the price up quite a bit since there is less demand for them.

    Other keycap types include POM, Cherry doubleshots, thin PBT. And if you want to learn to touch type but are afraid to go full ninja/otaku/blank, then go for side printed caps.

    Since you mentioned imsto cherry caps, I'd highly recommend those. I scored my TKL set for $55 so I got a really good deal.

    And this can be a very subjective topic, not exactly a simple question but I'll bite and leave you a huge paragraph anyways :P
    Well I'll argue that it isn't too complicated either :) Just tips really.
    I looked at WASD caps but those are just ABS laser printed or so, thus don't seem all that special. Cheap, on the other hand.
    I'll probably look for the Cherry height keys, maybe PBT just to try those too. Side printed seems a good idea but limits choices somewhat. Blank is a bit hardcore, but cheapest "printing" option, and would truly make me learn to type fastest :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 02 May 2013, 07:48:16
    would a 'Mini USB to PS/2 cable that actively adapts the signal to PS/2' Cable be bigger/thicker then a normal usb one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:43:01
    When wiping off a keyboard do you guys leave it plugged in or do you unplug it from the pc?

    I was thinking just open notepad or something like that so all the key presses don't goof something up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:43:46
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:43:01
    When wiping off a keyboard do you guys leave it plugged in or do you unplug it from the pc?

    I was thinking just open notepad or something like that so all the key presses don't goof something up.

    I always unplug mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:47:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:43:46
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:43:01
    When wiping off a keyboard do you guys leave it plugged in or do you unplug it from the pc?

    I was thinking just open notepad or something like that so all the key presses don't goof something up.

    I always unplug mine.

    That's the only thing I'm not crazy about with this Ducky, its a pain to plug and unplug the connector in the keyboard.....of course I could always crawl behind the desk and unplug from the pc but I always have to wash my hands after being back their.  :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gameaholic on Thu, 02 May 2013, 11:48:27
    Can someone link to where I can buy Cherry MX white plate mounted switches in the US?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 02 May 2013, 11:56:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 06:52:33
    For the MX White GB, CommunistWitchDr bought the Whites from RapidOnline. The link for that GB can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42415.msg853745#msg853745). I believe Mouser carries them too and I think they're based in the EU.

    Last I looked, Mouser doesn't have them.  I know Rapid carries (carried?) them and Conrad has some in stock.

    Quote from: gameaholic on Thu, 02 May 2013, 11:48:27
    Can someone link to where I can buy Cherry MX white plate mounted switches in the US?

    Nowhere.  I went looking and the only places that carry them are based in the UK or Europe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:04:01
    Quote from: gameaholic on Thu, 02 May 2013, 11:48:27
    Can someone link to where I can buy Cherry MX white plate mounted switches in the US?

    Not sure there is a source. That's why the MX White buy was sourced from the EU
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:16:09
    Can anyone recommend a decent set of small screw drivers for taking things apart and just general use?

    I will keep these in my desk at work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:17:56
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:16:09
    Can anyone recommend a decent set of small screw drivers for taking things apart and just general use?

    I will keep these in my desk at work.

    I just have a jeweler's set of screwdrivers I picked up at Harbor Freight for cheap. Nothing special but they work. And I also have a GearWrench MicroDriver set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:14:53
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:16:09
    Can anyone recommend a decent set of small screw drivers for taking things apart and just general use?

    I will keep these in my desk at work.

    If you can afford them, a set by Wiha will last a lifetime (german made) and fit fully in the screws better than the chinese ones because they respect the iso regulations regarding the geometry of tip of the screwdriver strictly.

    Small set 25 USD
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-7-pc-Precision-Screwdriver-Set-26190-/310389197571?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4844a34b03

    Full 51 SET...I won't say the price...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-51-Piece-Master-Technicians-Precision-Driver-Tool-Set-92191-German-Made-/161018668821?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d75e715
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:38:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 February 2013, 18:46:47
    Just go for the hard counter. Yes, honey, I bought all these boards but here, I bought you this piece of jewelry as well!

    I could never get myself to buy 2 useless items, one after the other to make up for the uselessness of the first one...   1 for myself is already plenty :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:39:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:17:56
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:16:09
    Can anyone recommend a decent set of small screw drivers for taking things apart and just general use?

    I will keep these in my desk at work.

    I just have a jeweler's set of screwdrivers I picked up at Harbor Freight for cheap. Nothing special but they work. And I also have a GearWrench MicroDriver set.

    Yeah I've got a really cheap set now but they can't unscrew a screw that is very tight. I'm gonna check out the gear wrench set...

    Quote from: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:14:53
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:16:09
    Can anyone recommend a decent set of small screw drivers for taking things apart and just general use?

    I will keep these in my desk at work.

    If you can afford them, a set by Wiha will last a lifetime (german made) and fit fully in the screws better than the chinese ones because they respect the iso regulations regarding the geometry of tip of the screwdriver strictly.

    Small set 25 USD
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-7-pc-Precision-Screwdriver-Set-26190-/310389197571?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4844a34b03

    Full 51 SET...I won't say the price...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-51-Piece-Master-Technicians-Precision-Driver-Tool-Set-92191-German-Made-/161018668821?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d75e715

    Yeah now that I think about it someone recommended these elsewhere once, I'm not seeing the value but if they fit better and last maybe so.

    Thanks for the input guys.

    I'm considering these

    http://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-2757-Mechanics-Screwdriver-8-Piece/dp/B000NPXHPW/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1367519712&sr=8-7&keywords=screwdriver+set

    of course if I wanted to be thorough I could go for this

    http://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-2841-Electronic-Screwdriver-135-Piece/dp/B008HYVG6I/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1367519712&sr=8-5&keywords=screwdriver+set

    Maybe I should just bring some from home.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:40:10
    Quote from: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:14:53
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:16:09
    Can anyone recommend a decent set of small screw drivers for taking things apart and just general use?

    I will keep these in my desk at work.

    If you can afford them, a set by Wiha will last a lifetime (german made) and fit fully in the screws better than the chinese ones because they respect the iso regulations regarding the geometry of tip of the screwdriver strictly.

    Small set 25 USD
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-7-pc-Precision-Screwdriver-Set-26190-/310389197571?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4844a34b03

    Full 51 SET...I won't say the price...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-51-Piece-Master-Technicians-Precision-Driver-Tool-Set-92191-German-Made-/161018668821?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d75e715

    I believe this to be a waste of money..

    Let's say you have PERFECT screwdrivers....

    Do you also have PERFECT screws for it to make a difference?

    I guarantee all the screws you'll ever see in the keyboard parts you'll ever buy are Chinese made.. and at the chinese price, they don't give a sh... about iso standards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alfa147x on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:51:07
    With all the keyboards with custom cases where do they get their PCBs from?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:52:20
    Quote from: alfa147x on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:51:07
    With all the keyboards with custom cases where do they get their PCBs from?

    either closest home manufacturer or cheapest chinese manufacturer "shipped"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:55:04
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:40:10
    Quote from: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:14:53
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:16:09
    Can anyone recommend a decent set of small screw drivers for taking things apart and just general use?

    I will keep these in my desk at work.

    If you can afford them, a set by Wiha will last a lifetime (german made) and fit fully in the screws better than the chinese ones because they respect the iso regulations regarding the geometry of tip of the screwdriver strictly.

    Small set 25 USD
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-7-pc-Precision-Screwdriver-Set-26190-/310389197571?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4844a34b03

    Full 51 SET...I won't say the price...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-51-Piece-Master-Technicians-Precision-Driver-Tool-Set-92191-German-Made-/161018668821?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d75e715

    I believe this to be a waste of money..

    Let's say you have PERFECT screwdrivers....

    Do you also have PERFECT screws for it to make a difference?

    I guarantee all the screws you'll ever see in the keyboard parts you'll ever buy are Chinese made.. and at the chinese price, they don't give a sh... about iso standards.

    I disagree, I have a collection of pakistani, taiwanese, chinese and so on drivers, specially precision ones that ****ed up some macbooks that I opened for instance, even using the exact recommended type of screwdriver for the task (phillips #00 or torx t6, and t8) and those screws got wasted, wasted. If you look close enough with magnification to the tip of the screwdriver after some use, it'll look skewed in all sort of directions, and yes manly powerjobs with giant screws won't get in the way, but precision and delicate stuff will if the alloy which build it is of bad quality. Ask around to your local jeweler to teach you one thing or two, if he feels comfortable opening a wrist watch with bad quality precision tools not out of a whim or pleasure, but because It'll cost him real bucks...
    The cost of the screwdriver is nothing compared to ****ing up a system worth x10 x100 its price and it happens.

    I'm just a student still, in the dental field, and tools as this come in around all the time. After heavy use, with precision tools, their construction is something as a matter of fact vital. I hope your dentist is not using the pakistani stuff, because I have (branded as german steel by the way haha, but build in pakistan)they scrap, they snap, and when you change tools, it's pure awesomeness. You let the worries and workarounds you had to implement around the tool itself behind, to only worry about your technique and quality of the treatment...

    In the end it's a cost/benefits issue, but don't say it's the same because it isn't. If you're ignorant respect a topic, and "believe" or "feel" that, it's not enough, you must know the stuff you're talking about.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:14:02
    Quote from: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:55:04
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:40:10
    Quote from: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:14:53
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:16:09
    Can anyone recommend a decent set of small screw drivers for taking things apart and just general use?

    I will keep these in my desk at work.

    If you can afford them, a set by Wiha will last a lifetime (german made) and fit fully in the screws better than the chinese ones because they respect the iso regulations regarding the geometry of tip of the screwdriver strictly.

    Small set 25 USD
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-7-pc-Precision-Screwdriver-Set-26190-/310389197571?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4844a34b03

    Full 51 SET...I won't say the price...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-51-Piece-Master-Technicians-Precision-Driver-Tool-Set-92191-German-Made-/161018668821?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d75e715

    I believe this to be a waste of money..

    Let's say you have PERFECT screwdrivers....

    Do you also have PERFECT screws for it to make a difference?

    I guarantee all the screws you'll ever see in the keyboard parts you'll ever buy are Chinese made.. and at the chinese price, they don't give a sh... about iso standards.

    I disagree, I have a collection of pakistani, taiwanese, chinese and so on drivers, specially precision ones that ****ed up some macbooks that I opened for instance, even using the exact recommended type of screwdriver for the task (phillips #00 or torx t6, and t8) and those screws got wasted, wasted. If you look close enough with magnification to the tip of the screwdriver after some use, it'll look skewed in all sort of directions, and yes manly powerjobs with giant screws won't get in the way, but precision and delicate stuff will if the alloy which build it is of bad quality. Ask around to your local jeweler to teach you one thing or two, if he feels comfortable opening a wrist watch with bad quality precision tools not out of a whim or pleasure, but because It'll cost him real bucks...
    The cost of the screwdriver is nothing compared to ****ing up a system worth x10 x100 its price and it happens.

    I'm just a student still, in the dental field, and tools as this come in around all the time. After heavy use, with precision tools, their construction is something as a matter of fact vital. I hope your dentist is not using the pakistani stuff, because I have (branded as german steel by the way haha, but build in pakistan)they scrap, they snap, and when you change tools, it's pure awesomeness. You let the worries and workarounds you had to implement around the tool itself behind, to only worry about your technique and quality of the treatment...

    In the end it's a cost/benefits issue, but don't say it's the same because it isn't. If you're ignorant respect a topic, and "believe" or "feel" that, it's not enough, you must know the stuff you're talking about.

    You're still not looking at where these "drivers" are going, and their intended workload...

    Most of us are not jewelers, or dentists, or professional "mac geniuses"

    Let's say we have a mac book, that we f...ed up the screws to... It'd be cheaper to buy another set of mac screws or even off brand replacements, than to buy that set of screw drivers.


    If these PRO tools are not going to be used in a PRO-setting, then they're a waste.... because the workload will never make them pay-off
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:22:48
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:14:02
    Quote from: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:55:04
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:40:10
    Quote from: Mandolin on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:14:53
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:16:09
    Can anyone recommend a decent set of small screw drivers for taking things apart and just general use?

    I will keep these in my desk at work.

    If you can afford them, a set by Wiha will last a lifetime (german made) and fit fully in the screws better than the chinese ones because they respect the iso regulations regarding the geometry of tip of the screwdriver strictly.

    Small set 25 USD
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-7-pc-Precision-Screwdriver-Set-26190-/310389197571?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4844a34b03

    Full 51 SET...I won't say the price...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-51-Piece-Master-Technicians-Precision-Driver-Tool-Set-92191-German-Made-/161018668821?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d75e715

    I believe this to be a waste of money..

    Let's say you have PERFECT screwdrivers....

    Do you also have PERFECT screws for it to make a difference?

    I guarantee all the screws you'll ever see in the keyboard parts you'll ever buy are Chinese made.. and at the chinese price, they don't give a sh... about iso standards.

    I disagree, I have a collection of pakistani, taiwanese, chinese and so on drivers, specially precision ones that ****ed up some macbooks that I opened for instance, even using the exact recommended type of screwdriver for the task (phillips #00 or torx t6, and t8) and those screws got wasted, wasted. If you look close enough with magnification to the tip of the screwdriver after some use, it'll look skewed in all sort of directions, and yes manly powerjobs with giant screws won't get in the way, but precision and delicate stuff will if the alloy which build it is of bad quality. Ask around to your local jeweler to teach you one thing or two, if he feels comfortable opening a wrist watch with bad quality precision tools not out of a whim or pleasure, but because It'll cost him real bucks...
    The cost of the screwdriver is nothing compared to ****ing up a system worth x10 x100 its price and it happens.

    I'm just a student still, in the dental field, and tools as this come in around all the time. After heavy use, with precision tools, their construction is something as a matter of fact vital. I hope your dentist is not using the pakistani stuff, because I have (branded as german steel by the way haha, but build in pakistan)they scrap, they snap, and when you change tools, it's pure awesomeness. You let the worries and workarounds you had to implement around the tool itself behind, to only worry about your technique and quality of the treatment...

    In the end it's a cost/benefits issue, but don't say it's the same because it isn't. If you're ignorant respect a topic, and "believe" or "feel" that, it's not enough, you must know the stuff you're talking about.

    You're still not looking at where these "drivers" are going, and their intended workload...

    Most of us are not jewelers, or dentists, or professional "mac geniuses"

    Let's say we have a mac book, that we f...ed up the screws to... It'd be cheaper to buy another set of mac screws or even off brand replacements, than to buy that set of screw drivers.


    If these PRO tools are not going to be used in a PRO-setting, then they're a waste.... because the workload will never make them pay-off

    Correct, it's a cost/benefit thing. If you're doing one job or two it doesn't affect you that much.
    But time spend is precious and have a value in money terms too. Go and try to drill out a stuck screw of <2 mm, maybe you'll need to get the full spare part and not just the screw because it got broken in the process, you'll have to order it, wait for it, pay for it...it costs money.

    Either way, when you need pro tools, you'll know because you got some box full of bad screwdrivers (that probably would've cost you more than one good set) and only a handful of them working, but again it's not because they are "expensive" that they work better, if it weren't about money and you'd only worry about the quality of the tools, you could buy them used and they'll still be better than many of the chinese ones. It's their quality assurance processes, and throughout testing, extended lifespan, a meticulous chosen alloy that cost them more. It's an engineered piece of equipment, not just the imprint that says germany made.

    If you think that way, rubber domes make the same work as our clicky ones, at a fraction of the cost, but the feedback does matter.

    The mac thing is just a hobby by the way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:23:00
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:14:02

    If these PRO tools are not going to be used in a PRO-setting, then they're a waste.... because the workload will never make them pay-off

    Money spent on good tools is never wasted.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:50:41
    Quote from: Greystoke on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:23:00
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:14:02

    If these PRO tools are not going to be used in a PRO-setting, then they're a waste.... because the workload will never make them pay-off

    Money spent on good tools is never wasted.



    That's far too blanketing...

    Let's say you buy a microgram balance. $3000-6000.. Fv..k yea you can weigh exactly the amount of spices ... but........ alas you're a homemaker rather than a chemist..

    "wasted..." no?

    no.... the homemaker needs a mass spec, she'd at least need the ug balance for weighing and growing pot on the side..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:53:50
    Ok, I think we've argued this point enough. Please stay on topic. We can migrate this over to the Tools Thread if we wanna debate more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:04:46
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alfa147x on Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:28:00
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:52:20
    Quote from: alfa147x on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:51:07
    With all the keyboards with custom cases where do they get their PCBs from?

    either closest home manufacturer or cheapest chinese manufacturer "shipped"

    Thanks! Any list of manufacturers to look at?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 May 2013, 16:01:01
    Quote from: Greystoke on Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:04:46
    <blank>

    Sorry, I just don't want this thread mired in debates about the finer points. I'd like to keep this simple like the title implies. I don't mind a bit of debate or anything but i don't want it to get out of hand. I apologize for not letting you have your rebuttal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 02 May 2013, 16:11:08
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:50:41
    Let's say you buy a microgram balance. $3000-6000.. Fv..k yea you can weigh exactly the amount of spices ... but........ alas you're a homemaker rather than a chemist..

    "wasted..." no?

    no.... the homemaker needs a mass spec, she'd at least need the ug balance for weighing and growing pot on the side..

    I lol'd :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:19:08
    I keep reading about OEMs but I am not sure what does that mean.
    Say a board is made by Costar, what do they actually make? The PCB? The controller? The stabilizers (always or just sometimes)? All these? Or all the keyboard including the cable, casing, keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:23:00
    Quote from: Bencze on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:19:08
    I keep reading about OEMs but I am not sure what does that mean.
    Say a board is made by Costar, what do they actually make? The PCB? The controller? The stabilizers (always or just sometimes)? All these? Or all the keyboard including the cable, casing, keycaps?

    They make the whole keyboard.

    Costar is the Original Equipment Manufacturer..

    For example, Asus mother boards are made by Foxconn "OEM"


    But, obviously, certain parts could be sourced from other places..  Costar just assembles all of those keyboards into a final keyboard ready for sale.

    An OEM doesn't strictly make exact percentages of the final product, it makes as much as it's asked to..

    In the case of Costar keyboards, they turn out the final piece ordered by Coolermaster and Filco
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:27:09
    Quote from: alfa147x on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:51:07
    With all the keyboards with custom cases where do they get their PCBs from?
    Either custom made PCBs or the all time favourite A.87 PCBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:33:41
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:23:00
    For example, Asus mother boards are made by Foxconn "OEM"

    Good comparison, but I thought Pegatron was their OEM and they've since changed to ECS. Maybe I'm wrong?
    Anyway another good comparison would be Seasonic, CWT, and others being the OEM of many power supplies. Corsair, Antec,and others simply "rebadge" them as theirs similar to what happens with mechanical keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:50:57
    But then I am thinking how can an OEM guarantee any level of quality, they have a certain budget and they probably buy the components from other companies depending on the budget. Like how a QFR is also Costar but supposedly little less quality than Filco, they probably had to put it together cheaper. I can see how a certain QA process can ensure some level of quality sort of 'indifferent' of the components, but is that all the magic there is? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:04:09
    Quote from: Bencze on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:50:57
    But then I am thinking how can an OEM guarantee any level of quality, they have a certain budget and they probably buy the components from other companies depending on the budget. Like how a QFR is also Costar but supposedly little less quality than Filco, they probably had to put it together cheaper. I can see how a certain QA process can ensure some level of quality sort of 'indifferent' of the components, but is that all the magic there is? :)

    Brand name. Filco is seen as the best quality, non-custom keyboard by some. But in reality, it's the same as a CM storm except that the Filco is a premium brand and demand a higher price to maintain a level of prestige among buyers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:26:46
    Quote from: The_Beast on Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:04:09
    Brand name. Filco is seen as the best quality, non-custom keyboard by some. But in reality, it's the same as a CM storm except that the Filco is a premium brand and demand a higher price to maintain a level of prestige among buyers

    I thought the Filco had a slightly nicer PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 03 May 2013, 05:13:04
    Quote from: Bencze on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:50:57
    But then I am thinking how can an OEM guarantee any level of quality, they have a certain budget and they probably buy the components from other companies depending on the budget. Like how a QFR is also Costar but supposedly little less quality than Filco, they probably had to put it together cheaper. I can see how a certain QA process can ensure some level of quality sort of 'indifferent' of the components, but is that all the magic there is? :)
    You already understand how it works. As nubbinator mentioned, some things were cheapened on, such as the PCB. But I think the biggest thing that allows a QFR to be sold for so cheap compared to a Filco, in conjunction with a slightly cheaper build quality (which is still a fairly good keyboard) is the fact that Filco was probably(?) the only one selling a nice, quality mechanical keyboard and demanded a premium for it. And the success of the Filco helped bolster the Costar name. But if someone wanted them to be an OEM, and wanted the cheapest crap the could find, you would probably end up with a piece of ****. Maybe they care about their image and perception enough to not take on those kinds of contracts?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 03 May 2013, 09:25:42
    Right sort of the difference between Costar and iOne. Costar cheap shortcutting is the exception, while at iOne it is almost the rule. Though exactly right, if a customer comes in and says I want it build to D grade, OEM will do it but will probably not be so quick to say yes we make that like they would their A grade customers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:43:42
    I'm look for a certain stabilizer:

    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6694405165_7afb88b695_z.jpg)

    I keep seeing multiple names for them, can you help me with a correct name and where to buy them? Sorry if this is a re-post. I checked the search bar for the answer but every one of them show these:

    (http://cdn.overclock.net/0/08/08d76d96_Stabilizer.jpeg)

    and for a bonus question, I'll throw a poll question out: which one is better?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:47:05
    Both are plate mounted. Top pic is Plate Mounted Cherry. Bottom pic is Plate Mounted Costar. Like most things in keyboards, your last question is subjective. There's no "better". I prefer Costars slightly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:47:43
    Quote from: eRadicatedZomBiE on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:43:42
    I'm look for a certain stabilizer:

    Show Image
    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6694405165_7afb88b695_z.jpg)


    I keep seeing multiple names for them, can you help me with a correct name and where to buy them? Sorry if this is a re-post. I checked the search bar for the answer but every one of them show these:

    Show Image
    (http://cdn.overclock.net/0/08/08d76d96_Stabilizer.jpeg)


    and for a bonus question, I'll throw a poll question out: which one is better?


    The ones you are looking for are Cherry PCB mount stabilizers.

    And they are both good, it's just personal preference! :D

    Edit:

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:47:05
    Both are plate mounted. Top pic is Plate Mounted Cherry. Bottom pic is Plate Mounted Costar. Like most things in keyboards, your last question is subjective. There's no "better". I prefer Costars slightly.

    There is no plate in that top picture, sir. That is the PCB! :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:49:09
    Like JD said, it's personal preference. I know a lot of people say that swapping caps on Costar stabs is a pain since you need to deal with the little inserts. The Cherry mounted stuff is a bit less work. But I find the Costar stabs to be a little crisper and it makes my MX Blues feel nice. ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:49:51
    Not a huge fan of cherry stabilizers unless I'm removing keycaps. Too mushy for my tastes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:07:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:47:05
    Both are plate mounted. Top pic is Plate Mounted Cherry. Bottom pic is Plate Mounted Costar. Like most things in keyboards, your last question is subjective. There's no "better". I prefer Costars slightly.

    Sorry about my use of "better" I just meant which do you prefer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:11:18
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:26:46
    Quote from: The_Beast on Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:04:09
    Brand name. Filco is seen as the best quality, non-custom keyboard by some. But in reality, it's the same as a CM storm except that the Filco is a premium brand and demand a higher price to maintain a level of prestige among buyers

    I thought the Filco had a slightly nicer PCB.

    Um.. I'd say more than slightly... the QFR pcb is the absolute worst PCB I've ever worked with..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:12:53
    Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:49:51
    Not a huge fan of cherry stabilizers unless I'm removing keycaps. Too mushy for my tastes.

    cherry stabs create more points of friction, and the left and right doesn't go down as closely when you bottom the key out, so they grind against the sides.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kayliss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:02:29
    Any suggestions on where to find Topre colored keycap sets other than EK? These for example http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=xf0100kt11n
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:04:27
    Quote from: Kayliss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:02:29
    Any suggestions on where to find Topre colored keycap sets other than EK? These for example http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=xf0100kt11n


    You could try the classifieds. I believe EK is the main, if not the only, distributor. Hence the high prices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kayliss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:21:45
    Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:04:27
    Quote from: Kayliss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:02:29
    Any suggestions on where to find Topre colored keycap sets other than EK? These for example http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=xf0100kt11n


    You could try the classifieds. I believe EK is the main, if not the only, distributor. Hence the high prices.

    Thanks I was afraid that may be the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:46:04
    has anyone seen an Orange PBT set anywhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DasHHKBProM on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:51:09
    So I was looking to purchase the hhkb silent from EK, then I saw this youtube video
    in comparison to the keys and the abs keyboard casing , looking at the one on the left, it is hella yellow and imo ugly as hell
    though these may be the regular hhkb and not the type s anyone know how long before it turns this shade of yellow if only exposed to florescent office lights
    that being said has any one who ones a type s had a problem with their white keyboard turning yellow
    I really want the type s for work, ....wish it came in black  :mad:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:51:33
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:46:04
    has anyone seen an Orange PBT set anywhere?

    I've never seen a PBT set that's orange. The Orange Crush Madness set might be in PBT though.

    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:51:09
    So I was looking to purchase the hhkb silent from EK, then I saw this youtube video
    in comparison to the keys and the abs keyboard casing , looking at the one on the left, it is hella yellow and imo ugly as hell
    though these may be the regular hhkb and not the type s anyone know how long before it turns this shade of yellow if only exposed to florescent office lights
    that being said has any one who ones a type s had a problem with their white keyboard turning yellow
    I really want the type s for work, ....wish it came in black  :mad:

    I think the case is beige and the color balance in that video is horrible. If you do buy old boards though, they do yellow. But you can reverse it by using retr0brite
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:56:41
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:46:04
    has anyone seen an Orange PBT set anywhere?

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=16519073629 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=16519073629)

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12915665063 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12915665063)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:00:17
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:46:04
    has anyone seen an Orange PBT set anywhere?

    KBC on Taobao, but they're only the 37 key sets, not full sets:

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.237.jZW7zV&id=16519073629

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.420.rOYtOF&id=14516565221

    The only mods I've seen sold additionally are yellow:

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.180.ka2YQj&id=13558619274
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DasHHKBProM on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:20:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:51:33
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:46:04
    has anyone seen an Orange PBT set anywhere?

    I've never seen a PBT set that's orange. The Orange Crush Madness set might be in PBT though.

    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:51:09
    So I was looking to purchase the hhkb silent from EK, then I saw this youtube video
    in comparison to the keys and the abs keyboard casing , looking at the one on the left, it is hella yellow and imo ugly as hell
    though these may be the regular hhkb and not the type s anyone know how long before it turns this shade of yellow if only exposed to florescent office lights
    that being said has any one who ones a type s had a problem with their white keyboard turning yellow
    I really want the type s for work, ....wish it came in black  :mad:

    I think the case is beige and the color balance in that video is horrible. If you do buy old boards though, they do yellow. But you can reverse it by using retr0brite

    Hmm.... do you know off hand if the fastner locations are the same on type s as reg pro2 I might just swap case and keys.
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:32:06
    Thanks guys... I will be ordering the orange keys along with the stupid $200 worth of plastic flowers for the stupid windows that my mom wants.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:32:36
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:20:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:51:33
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:46:04
    has anyone seen an Orange PBT set anywhere?

    I've never seen a PBT set that's orange. The Orange Crush Madness set might be in PBT though.

    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Sat, 04 May 2013, 13:51:09
    So I was looking to purchase the hhkb silent from EK, then I saw this youtube video
    in comparison to the keys and the abs keyboard casing , looking at the one on the left, it is hella yellow and imo ugly as hell
    though these may be the regular hhkb and not the type s anyone know how long before it turns this shade of yellow if only exposed to florescent office lights
    that being said has any one who ones a type s had a problem with their white keyboard turning yellow
    I really want the type s for work, ....wish it came in black  :mad:

    I think the case is beige and the color balance in that video is horrible. If you do buy old boards though, they do yellow. But you can reverse it by using retr0brite

    Hmm.... do you know off hand if the fastner locations are the same on type s as reg pro2 I might just swap case and keys.
    [attach=1]

    I have only seen an HHKB once in person and it wasn't mine so I couldn't take it apart. Hopefully someone else knows. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:34:21
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:32:06
    Thanks guys... I will be ordering the orange keys along with the stupid $200 worth of plastic flowers for the stupid windows that my mom wants.

    Get Red Thick Cherry PBT instead. I have the blanks and love them :)

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.110.26urvG&id=20744664158
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:39:52
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:34:21
    Get Red Thick Cherry PBT instead. I have the blanks and love them :)

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.110.26urvG&id=20744664158 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.110.26urvG&id=20744664158)

    Red blanks? Anywhere with 1 red blank, thick PBT top row? Need it for the Esc key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:42:04
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 04 May 2013, 14:39:52
    Red blanks? Anywhere with 1 red blank, thick PBT top row? Need it for the Esc key.

    I have looked all over Taobao several times and they ALL have stuff printed on them. You'd think they'd keep some blank, but noooooooo. I'll let you know if I find any in the future...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:20:34
    Question: how does topre feels like?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:22:40
    Sex.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:23:37
    Quote from: SmallFry on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:22:40
    Sex.

    With a stick of soft butter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:25:09
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:20:34
    Question: how does topre feels like?

    This has been asked a lot of times but to me, they feel like rubber domes with a solid bottom out instead of mushy. They also have a distinct actuation point in the middle. But this is subjective and will feel different to everyone. If you're viewing this thread, search for "Topre" and see other comments that people have said about them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:27:01
    The best description I was told, was that it felt like clay breaking down when you press it. The resistance at the top and it just falls after that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:33:31
    Just got my QF TK couple days ago, any suggestions on topre keyboard? (Poor guy here, maybe not suitable for buying topre? I heard they are more expensive.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:35:34
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:33:31
    Just got my QF TK couple days ago, any suggestions on topre keyboard? (Poor guy here, maybe not suitable for buying topre? I heard they are more expensive.)

    An HHKB is $270 on Elitekeyboards.com and a Realforce is $240..If you're worried about price, I would shy away from buying Topre boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:05:43
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:33:31
    Just got my QF TK couple days ago, any suggestions on topre keyboard? (Poor guy here, maybe not suitable for buying topre? I heard they are more expensive.)

    Get one of these :P

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43134.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:43:29
    If anyone could help me I need the length and widths of the 6.25x and 7x space bars from the top down, thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:45:29
    Quote from: Tym on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:43:29
    If anyone could help me I need the length and widths of the 6.25x and 7x space bars from the top down, thank you!

    In mm please!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sat, 04 May 2013, 17:36:48
    Do the Ducky Shine II and Year of the Dragon have same build quality? Or is year of the Dragon better?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 04 May 2013, 17:38:23
    Nah it's the same build quality Year of the Dragon is just a promotional branded version of a Shine 2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 04 May 2013, 17:47:40
    Quote from: Tym on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:45:29
    Quote from: Tym on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:43:29
    If anyone could help me I need the length and widths of the 6.25x and 7x space bars from the top down, thank you!

    In mm please!
    What profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sat, 04 May 2013, 17:55:10
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 04 May 2013, 17:38:23
    Nah it's the same build quality Year of the Dragon is just a promotional branded version of a Shine 2
    Sweet thanks, I might end up getting a Filco instead anyways... was just curious.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 05 May 2013, 00:39:28
    Does the GH community have their own Farcebook page?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 05 May 2013, 01:07:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 05 May 2013, 00:39:28
    Does the GH community have their own Farcebook page?

    We have a group.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/113402935366843/?fref=ts
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WatchMaker on Sun, 05 May 2013, 02:41:07
    do the keyboards with 2 USB plugs have 100% NKRO ?
    can anyone vouch?  i ask bcuz ive seen product not live up to the claims they made.

    btw i read this post: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=10063.30
    but it was written back when keyboards had 1 USB

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 05 May 2013, 03:20:53
    Quote from: WatchMaker on Sun, 05 May 2013, 02:41:07
    do the keyboards with 2 USB plugs have 100% NKRO ?
    can anyone vouch?  i ask bcuz ive seen product not live up to the claims they made.

    btw i read this post: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=10063.30
    but it was written back when keyboards had 1 USB

    I do believe that this all depends on the individual keyboard.  The Das Keyboard I have does have 2 USB plugs but the second one is just for the 2 USB ports on the side of the keyboard. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 05 May 2013, 07:20:59
    Any suggestions on what size hole to drill through the PCB on my Das Keyboard to and an LED to my ESC key?  Also, tips on soldering leads to the LED since there are not pads or trace for the LED would be greatly appreciated.  Going to move my HD activity LED from the case to behind my ESC key to go with my Ti Skull keycap.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 05 May 2013, 10:01:00
    Cool idea, that'll be tough.  I assume you don't have the tiny drill bits necessary to make usual hole diameters.  I'd say just go with the smallest you can find.  You're going to have to be REALLY careful, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sun, 05 May 2013, 15:45:40
    USB NKRO seems to have minor issue... Was using QF TK to type my paper in Latex, and instead of typing "\[", it types "\\[" in USB NKRO mode.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:32:52
    Where can i find a Switch Top Remover Tool :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:36:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:32:52
    Where can i find a Switch Top Remover Tool :)

    The_Beast made a run of them and the thread can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36677.0). I heard a rumor that he'd be doing a R2 but he's super busy between his GH60 case, lube station, and other stuff. If you see this Beast, I'm sorry I spoke for you in advance ^__^

    I've also heard that tweezers can work in a pinch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:39:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:36:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:32:52
    Where can i find a Switch Top Remover Tool :)

    The_Beast made a run of them and the thread can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36677.0). I heard a rumor that he'd be doing a R2 but he's super busy between his GH60 case, lube station, and other stuff. If you see this Beast, I'm sorry I spoke for you in advance ^__^

    I've also heard that tweezers can work in a pinch.

    and apparently forks too....I do not speak from experience but from reading the forum....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:40:03
    Which keyboard do you refer to that has 2 USB plugs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 06 May 2013, 09:03:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:36:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:32:52
    Where can i find a Switch Top Remover Tool :)

    The_Beast made a run of them and the thread can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36677.0). I heard a rumor that he'd be doing a R2 but he's super busy between his GH60 case, lube station, and other stuff. If you see this Beast, I'm sorry I spoke for you in advance ^__^

    I've also heard that tweezers can work in a pinch.

    Hope there is a R2! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:09:10
    what do you guys think?  Put the HD activity LED or the PC power LED behind the ESC key on my Das?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:10:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:09:10
    what do you guys think?  Put the HD activity LED or the PC power LED behind the ESC key on my Das?
    What's the purpose of either? Also, why not both?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:11:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:09:10
    what do you guys think?  Put the HD activity LED or the PC power LED behind the ESC key on my Das?

    I think the HD activity would be amazing on the ESC key. Looking forward to your build log and pictures Melvang!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:11:59
    That sounds interesting...Let us know how you actually do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:17:07
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:10:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:09:10
    what do you guys think?  Put the HD activity LED or the PC power LED behind the ESC key on my Das?
    What's the purpose of either? Also, why not both?

    Because the Ti 3d skull keycap I have on the ESC key has clear eyes for an LED

    Quote from: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:11:59
    That sounds interesting...Let us know how you actually do it.

    Have a build log started in the Making Stuff Together section.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43241.0

    Melvang

    PS typing on domes after having MX Browns for a couple years FREAKING SUX
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:18:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:36:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:32:52
    Where can i find a Switch Top Remover Tool :)

    The_Beast made a run of them and the thread can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36677.0). I heard a rumor that he'd be doing a R2 but he's super busy between his GH60 case, lube station, and other stuff. If you see this Beast, I'm sorry I spoke for you in advance ^__^

    I've also heard that tweezers can work in a pinch.

    Y U LINK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:20:09
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:24:24
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:18:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:36:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:32:52
    Where can i find a Switch Top Remover Tool :)

    The_Beast made a run of them and the thread can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36677.0). I heard a rumor that he'd be doing a R2 but he's super busy between his GH60 case, lube station, and other stuff. If you see this Beast, I'm sorry I spoke for you in advance ^__^

    I've also heard that tweezers can work in a pinch.

    Y U LINK?

    Sorry sorry! I can remove it if you're not joking ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:24:46
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:20:09
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:18:31
    Y U LINK?
    Also, Melvang, I love that key. Maybe you can fit one LED per eye? Also, I didn't mean to come off as rude. It just seems weird to use either of those two things as an LED indicator. HDD activity is going to happen like ALL the time. Also, if your PC is on, I'm sure you'll know it...

    It's all good, just wasn't sure if you had seen the thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:25:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:24:24
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:18:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:36:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 06 May 2013, 08:32:52
    Where can i find a Switch Top Remover Tool :)

    The_Beast made a run of them and the thread can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36677.0). I heard a rumor that he'd be doing a R2 but he's super busy between his GH60 case, lube station, and other stuff. If you see this Beast, I'm sorry I spoke for you in advance ^__^

    I've also heard that tweezers can work in a pinch.

    Y U LINK?

    Sorry sorry! I can remove it if you're not joking ^__^

    I don't really care. BTW if you're still answering the IC, I'm not looking, I deleted the link to see responses
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:31:23
    Just in case people were wondering: moose won the giveaway with his 1300th reply to this post. Congrats to him and I've updated the giveaway post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg873120#msg873120) and the OP!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:33:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:31:23
    Just in case people were wondering: moose won the giveaway with his 1300th reply to this post. Congrats to him and I've updated the giveaway post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg873120#msg873120) and the OP!

    Sir, your kindness is only exceeded by your generosity. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:33:41
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:34:21
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:33:41
    Thank you to CPTBadAss! I really appreciate it. He may only be an actual Captain, but he was promoted to Major in my book.

    You mean he is now MAJBadAss to you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:35:31
    Haha, thanks everyone for the kind words :D

    JD, as might might know from IRC, I've been given quite a few different nicknames. MAJBadAss might not be so bad compared to CPTSpamAss :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:36:58
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:40:10
    (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pI2KEtknJPo/UE3tw1_YIsI/AAAAAAAABVU/XiVQ6E9Sv3s/s1600/chuck-norris-approved.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:43:55
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:46:51
    No worries moose! I'm hoping to do more of these later guys so don't worry. You'll probably get another shot at some goodies :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 11:30:20
    Gratz to Moose and to think my question was #1299.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 11:56:16
    Next time Melvang!  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Mon, 06 May 2013, 14:20:38
    What is the cheapest way to try all the switches? Mainly interested in Green, White, Grey, Clear and topre
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keymaster on Mon, 06 May 2013, 14:21:28
    Quote from: linziyi on Mon, 06 May 2013, 14:20:38
    What is the cheapest way to try all the switches? Mainly interested in Green, White, Grey, Clear and topre

    Go to a GH meet :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Mon, 06 May 2013, 14:32:33
    I live in New York, where is the nearest one I can attend to?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 14:35:30
    I've seen bost and MAJBadAss discussing the possibility of one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:27:49
    Quote from: linziyi on Mon, 06 May 2013, 14:32:33
    I live in New York, where is the nearest one I can attend to?

    Boost is planning an NYC meet (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42218.5) sometime soon. I might be able to attend if its the one weekend I'm in town but we'll see. And I believe you even commented (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42218.msg871674#msg871674) in that thread already. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kayliss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:33:58
    Could anyone tell me the gauge of wire used for Cherry stabilizers (spacebar)? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:39:59
    Approx. 1mm or probably like 18AWG.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kayliss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:44:03
    Thanks  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:54:02
    Should this work: If a KMAC Number Pad is properly set up with codes for numpad keys, shouldn't I theoretically be able to hold Alt on a Phantom and press the numpad keys to get unicode characters? And if that should work, then that would mean that the numpad was set up with regular number codes, a la the number row?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:02:38
    Numpad and numbers row have different scan codes. Even when the numpad has correct numpad scan codes, some separate numpad and keyboard combos are still super finicky about letting you enter in unicode. Like when I had my Leopold FC200 and goldtouch numpad I don't remember them playing particularly well together. Though with 2 things that are user programmable, I would guess if both had firmware from the same base, it would probably make them work nicer together.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:05:24
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:02:38
    Numpad and numbers row have different scan codes. Even when the numpad has correct numpad scan codes, some separate numpad and keyboard combos are still super finicky about letting you enter in unicode.
    Right. Crap, that really sucks. I suppose one thing I could do to work around is to add an Alt key to the K pad. Time to investigate. Thanks, lysol!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alfa147x on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:36:48
    Where can I find more information on the hid liberator ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:36:33
    Need suggestions for a keyboard that is going to be a gift.  Going to be getting 2 for my aunt and uncle.  I am not exactly sure what she does but I know that about 2/3 of her keys are now blank just due to the heavy use.  He runs some web server stuff from the house. 

    I was thinking of getting 2 Days Keyboards one with blues and the other with browns and let them decide who wants which switch.

    Any comments/suggestions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:45:20
    Quote from: alfa147x on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:36:48
    Where can I find more information on the hid liberator ?

    Check this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35065.0) for some info. And you can win a Filco w/ an HID Liberator already installed from Glissant (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43163.msg878723#msg878723). Go check out the giveaway!

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:36:33
    Need suggestions for a keyboard that is going to be a gift.  Going to be getting 2 for my aunt and uncle.  I am not exactly sure what she does but I know that about 2/3 of her keys are now blank just due to the heavy use.  He runs some web server stuff from the house. 

    I was thinking of getting 2 Days Keyboards one with blues and the other with browns and let them decide who wants which switch.

    Any comments/suggestions?

    If you've got some boards, bring those over to let em try different switches out and see what they like. And then I'd get Ducky because I really think the glossy finish on the Das boards are terrible. Filco might be nice too if you can afford one of those. But Das boards are nice quality, I just have a personal gripe with the finish.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:54:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:36:33
    Need suggestions for a keyboard that is going to be a gift.  Going to be getting 2 for my aunt and uncle.  I am not exactly sure what she does but I know that about 2/3 of her keys are now blank just due to the heavy use.  He runs some web server stuff from the house. 

    I was thinking of getting 2 Days Keyboards one with blues and the other with browns and let them decide who wants which switch.

    Any comments/suggestions?

    Consider the KBT Pro at Techkeys.us.  Also be prepared for them to reject mechanical keyboards.  Some people just like their quiet, mushy rubber domes.  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Mon, 06 May 2013, 21:26:01
    Im looking into full metal filcos... But the only case I found was $300... Are there any for cheaper?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 21:31:04
    Quote from: Rule16 on Mon, 06 May 2013, 21:26:01
    Im looking into full metal filcos... But the only case I found was $300... Are there any for cheaper?

    You'll have to spend around $800-1000 for a Full Metal Filco; Full Metal Filco is the name of the board that Tipo33 has (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38320.0). There aren't many metal TKL cases that I know of that are out there. Photekq (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41202.0) and Boost (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39513.0) will be offering some soon. The last set of metal caps I saw were for sale from longweight and were going for $600. Then you'll probably have to get an HID Liberator and mod the switches to have heavier springs to combat the weight of the caps.

    TLDR: If you're worried about just the case being expensive, the rest of the Full Metal board won't be much cheaper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alfa147x on Mon, 06 May 2013, 23:25:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:45:20
    Quote from: alfa147x on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:36:48
    Where can I find more information on the hid liberator ?

    Check this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35065.0) for some info. And you can win a Filco w/ an HID Liberator already installed from Glissant (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43163.msg878723#msg878723). Go check out the giveaway!


    Thanks for the link! I PM'ed him. I don't think that controller would work with a MiniLa. I guess my best bet would be to go with a Teensy?

    Yeah I saw the giveaway! Too bad I just joined the forum and don't have enough posts :(.

    Thanks again!
    Alfa
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Mon, 06 May 2013, 23:45:54
    I'm having trouble finding the tabao pictures of the poker 2's backplate. can anyone help me?  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 06 May 2013, 23:59:11
    It's hard to find naked keyboards without caps. I saw a pic of the poker2 with 1 or 2 caps off somewhere, but I can't really tell if it has a plate that allows removable top switch covers. I doubt it though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 07 May 2013, 04:31:18
    This is what I was thinking of the Poker 2 plate: where did those cheap black Vortex plates come from not too long ago? As far as I knew, Poker X never had a plate. I'm thinking maybe those were Poker 2 plates. In which case, no easy open openings.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 07 May 2013, 05:14:13
    Actually, now that I think about it again, poker2 supports LEDs, and even the ones that don't come with LEDs has traces and holes for the LEDs, which means it doesn't make sense to make the plate for removable switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:01:07
    So with the current poker (not the poker 2) is it possible to swap stems and springs without desoldering?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:09:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:01:07
    So with the current poker (not the poker 2) is it possible to swap stems and springs without desoldering?

    The current poker is PCB mounted. You'll have to desolder. You can only do solderless swaps with custom plates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:13:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:09:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:01:07
    So with the current poker (not the poker 2) is it possible to swap stems and springs without desoldering?

    The current poker is PCB mounted. You'll have to desolder. You can only do solderless swaps with custom plates.

    I don't believe this is true. With PCB mounted switches, you can disassemble them without desoldering. The custom plate just allows you to reach the part of the switch to take it apart, which is normally blocked by the plate, whereas it's perfectly open on a PCB Mount. If I'm wrong, please correct me, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:15:09
    Is there enough room in between the switches for you to get a tool in there and open the switch housing? I don't actually know. It seems like there isn't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:16:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:15:09
    Is there enough room in between the switches for you to get a tool in there and open the switch housing? I don't actually know. It seems like there isn't.

    I've seen a video done, and I presume that if there'e enough space between the switches on a plate-mount board, there's enough space on a PCB-mounted board...

    on a completely unrelated note, I hate trackpads.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:18:36
    Quote from: inteli722 on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:16:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:15:09
    Is there enough room in between the switches for you to get a tool in there and open the switch housing? I don't actually know. It seems like there isn't.

    I've seen a video done, and I presume that if there'e enough space between the switches on a plate-mount board, there's enough space on a PCB-mounted board...

    on a completely unrelated note, I hate trackpads.

    Can anyone verify this? I've only ever seen videos and heard people talk about it so I might've jumped the gun on my answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:22:16
    With the KBC Poker X, since there is no plate, you can open the switches without desoldering. I have done it many times.

    Also true for most Cherry keyboards, since they are usually PCB mounted, also.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:25:35
    Thanks JD!! :D

    Edit: Added the info to the OP under "Commonly Asked Questions"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:31:58
    You can see my Moose's Mods thread in my signature... err, if you click on the link in my signature, then follow it to the Moose's Mods thread, you will see me doing just that to a Poker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:43:11
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:31:58
    You can see my Moose's Mods thread in my signature... err, if you click on the link in my signature, then follow it to the Moose's Mods thread, you will see me doing just that to a Poker.

    gotta go watch a moose do a poker......

    capt i know you did an o-ring review but do you know or have you tried imsto's red orings and are they the same as the 40A-L from wasd? (or does anybody know?)

    imsto oring in question link
    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15475338795 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15475338795)

    EDIT:
    found this but still not sure...
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33413.msg746282#msg746282 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33413.msg746282#msg746282)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 09:00:56
    I have not tried any o-rings besides the ones that WASD offers. I know WFD did a buy before which had a lot more options and Imsto had the ones you posted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 May 2013, 17:21:39
    where is the winebag/complaint thread were we can go have pitty parties about things that don't really matter?....

    do we have  a "what's bothering you?" thread?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 17:28:20
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 17:21:39
    where is the winebag/complaint thread were we can go have pitty parties about things that don't really matter?....

    do we have  a "what's bothering you?" thread?

    I believe it's called IRC :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 May 2013, 18:39:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 17:28:20
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 17:21:39
    where is the winebag/complaint thread were we can go have pitty parties about things that don't really matter?....

    do we have  a "what's bothering you?" thread?

    I believe it's called IRC :D

    But at home I primarily use tapatalk :-[

    and like now as I go through McDonalds drive through
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:23:30
    What is the IRC channel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:26:08
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:23:30
    What is the IRC channel?
    Up at the top alongside the home, help, unread, new, etc tabs there's a tab called 'IRC'
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:32:12
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:23:30
    What is the IRC channel?

    It's just a chatroom where some GHers and DTers hang out :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:45:42
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:23:30
    What is the IRC channel?

    It is the true form of Simple Questions and Simple Answers.

    But you also get all kinds of other, highly unpredictable and often hilarious rhetoric alongside your answer  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:51:24
    Quote from: lazerpointer on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:45:42
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:23:30
    What is the IRC channel?

    It is the true form of Simple Questions and Simple Answers.

    But you also get all kinds of other, highly unpredictable and often hilarious rhetoric alongside your answer  ;)

    I've gotten many of my answers for this thread there. But Flip is right, other nonsense might come with it haha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:59:14
    Ever tried to type on a board with zero caps installed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:06:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:59:14
    Ever tried to type on a board with zero caps installed?

    Yes, on my Black Alps board. It's kinda weird. Not horrible just feels funny, like there's not enough surface area and I need to hunt for the little top.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mandolin on Wed, 08 May 2013, 02:48:38
    The nyan cat set is only for cherry? no alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:25:02
    Quick question : Do light greys (tactile greys) have the same bump as clears or is it more/less prominent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:47:55
    Quote from: Mandolin on Wed, 08 May 2013, 02:48:38
    The nyan cat set is only for cherry? no alps?

    ALPS never get any love for customized caps.


    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:25:02
    Quick question : Do light greys (tactile greys) have the same bump as clears or is it more/less prominent.

    Physically, the stems are exactly the same. But since they springs are different, the amount of tactile is a tad different as well. If you had the same springs in both of them, then they'll feel the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:51:10
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:47:55
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:25:02
    Quick question : Do light greys (tactile greys) have the same bump as clears or is it more/less prominent.

    Physically, the stems are exactly the same. But since they springs are different, the amount of tactile is a tad different as well. If you had the same springs in both of them, then they'll feel the same.
    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:56:51
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:47:55
    Quote from: Mandolin on Wed, 08 May 2013, 02:48:38
    The nyan cat set is only for cherry? no alps?

    ALPS never get any love for customized caps.


    I do have an Alps Orange on Black GeekHack cap and I've seen some other GH caps but I haven't seen many other novelty caps and no Alps sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 08 May 2013, 06:32:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:45:20
    Quote from: alfa147x on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:36:48
    Where can I find more information on the hid liberator ?
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:36:33
    Need suggestions for a keyboard that is going to be a gift.  Going to be getting 2 for my aunt and uncle.  I am not exactly sure what she does but I know that about 2/3 of her keys are now blank just due to the heavy use.  He runs some web server stuff from the house. 

    I was thinking of getting 2 Days Keyboards one with blues and the other with browns and let them decide who wants which switch.

    Any comments/suggestions?

    If you've got some boards, bring those over to let em try different switches out and see what they like. And then I'd get Ducky because I really think the glossy finish on the Das boards are terrible. Filco might be nice too if you can afford one of those. But Das boards are nice quality, I just have a personal gripe with the finish.

    Would love to take my Das over to them for them to try out but they live 8 hours away.  But I talk to my uncle Rich last night on Farceboob.  They used to use old IBM boards (my guess would be BS switches) but that was years ago.  He was telling me that both of them loved typing on them but as they are getting older now I don't think the Unicomp ones would be a good choice just due to spring rates (someone help me out on this).  But I asked about their typing style and he told me that he kind of attacks the board but she types more ladylike.  So this is bringing me to the conclusion that he will be getting MX blues and she will be getting MX Browns.  I told him about the WASD sampler pack and if down the road they want different switches I would be able to swap them out for them.  Rich alone goes through 3 or 4 dome boards a year right now so I think this would be a very welcome gift.  Now this is where I could use a touch of help.  Looking for a good solid keyboard that is plate mount and is offered in Blue and Brown switches.  Would like to stay under 130 USD but if price is a little higher I could probably swing it.  Again this site has provided so much help for me in every aspect I have asked about (aside from the wallet) and I'm sure the same will happen here as well.

    Melvang

    PS My build log has been semi-completed this tidbit is offered at the end of the video at the end of my thread
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 08 May 2013, 06:34:24
    Sorry about the double post but can someone post the dimensions of the cut outs in the phantom plate for the easy switch swap?  I don't have calipers to accuratly measure mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 06:38:55
    (http://i.imgur.com/MvRFM7R.png)

    To be more precise it's : 13.97mm, 0.8128mm, 0.98044mm, 12.00912mm.

    Ask WFD before using it for anything though, although I'm sure he won't mind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 08 May 2013, 06:43:45
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 06:38:55

    To be more precise it's : 13.97mm, 0.8128mm, 0.98044mm, 12.00912mm.

    Ask WFD before using it for anything though, although I'm sure he won't mind.

    Is these numbers converted from SAE to metric or was the original plans drawn up in metric?

    Also I wouldn't me having any plates commercially made just wanting to mod the plate in my Das incase I get the urge to try different switches so I can de-solder at my leisure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 06:47:56
    13.97=0.55in
    0.81=0.032in
    0.98=0.0386in
    12.01=0.4728in
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 08 May 2013, 06:49:23
    cool thanx photekq
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:11:47
    can someone translate this for me

    [attach=1]

    And just from the picture can anyone tell what size/firmness these are?

    [attach=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:12:35
    Melvang, if you can afford it (it's about $20 more than your posted budget), I'l recommend a Filco MJ2. But I've also heard really good things about Ducky DK9008. And I actually really like the KBTalking Bluetooth keyboard that TechKeys and Binge are selling.

    If you like the sound of Unicomps, OrangeJewce told me that he feels like the springs feel lighter than IBM BS boards. I believe I've heard the same from JDcarpe and other sources but I'm not 100% sure.

    Edit: Also FYI Melvang, you can use Google to convert measurements. Try typing in "2 mm to in" and you'll see how it works. ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:45:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:12:35
    Melvang, if you can afford it (it's about $20 more than your posted budget), I'l recommend a Filco MJ2. But I've also heard really good things about Ducky DK9008. And I actually really like the KBTalking Bluetooth keyboard that TechKeys and Binge are selling.

    If you like the sound of Unicomps, OrangeJewce told me that he feels like the springs feel lighter than IBM BS boards. I believe I've heard the same from JDcarpe and other sources but I'm not 100% sure.

    Edit: Also FYI Melvang, you can use Google to convert measurements. Try typing in "2 mm to in" and you'll see how it works. ^__^

    I will def look into the Filco I don't think I have heard anything bad about that name.  On the topic of the new BS switchs from Unicomp vs the old IBM BS switches if anyone has both and could confirm this it would be WONDERFUL.

    On the measurement conversion that wasn't the issue.  I work as a Union Millwright (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millwright).  Was mostly wondering which side of the pond the original numbers were from.  IE to the best of my knowledge the US is one of 2 countries that don't use the metric system.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:55:24
    Didn't mean to insult you sir ^__^

    And hopefully jdcarpe pokes his head in or someone else who has both Unicomp/IBM. Mkawa might be a good source too :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 08 May 2013, 08:15:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 08 May 2013, 06:32:05

    Quote

    I don't think the Unicomp ones would be a good choice just due to spring rates.
     

    I read this and did not really get what you were asking. There are subtle differences in sound and feel, but a Unicomp "IS" a Model M and the springs are pretty much the same.

    I transplanted new Unicomp springs into my 1390131 and I would say that they are just a bit lighter. Is that because they were made differently or because they are fresher? Hard to say.

    But I would not let those extremely minor differences stop you from getting the Unicomp (unless he is old and deaf and would not be annoyed by the sound of MX blues) because the Model M is clearly superior, especially if he wears out keyboards through use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 08 May 2013, 08:37:38
    Although I have never owned nor used a Unicomp Model M, I agree with fohat.digs on the reliability. If he is wearing out rubber domes through use, and since he "kind of attacks the board," I would recommend a Model M for him without hesitation. With normal use, even vintage IBM and Lexmark Model M's will long outlive their owners. Or take us to the point where the keyboard is no longer a ubiquitous input device, but rather an archaic one. :)

    I also heartily recommend Filco for MX-based full size keyboards. You cannot go wrong with a Filco. I have several TKL Filcos, and they are probably the highest quality production keyboards I have used. I haven't used the Ducky boards, but from the reviews, they seem like a quality product. You could also consider the WASD keyboard. Weyman and the crew at WASD have some of the best customer service in the business. And lastly, there is now Keycool with their 108-key boards. MechanicalKeyboards has them in-stock, here (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?man=30). I am typing this on a Keycool 87, and I am very impressed by the Keycool brand. See my review, here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43143.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 08:40:58
    Ooo, I forgot about the WASD boards JD. I've only ever heard really good things about them and I really want to try one out. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 08 May 2013, 08:45:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 May 2013, 17:28:20
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 07 May 2013, 17:21:39
    where is the winebag/complaint thread were we can go have pitty parties about things that don't really matter?....

    do we have  a "what's bothering you?" thread?

    I believe it's called IRC :D
    I legitimately laughed out loud. Kudos sir.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:24:28
    thoughts comments suggestions on the Vortex KBT One with PBT switches for a very heavy keyboard user?  Are they plate or pcb mount anyone know?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:25:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:24:28
    thoughts comments suggestions on the Vortex KBT One with PBT switches for a very heavy keyboard user?  Are they plate or pcb mount anyone know?


    I can't really recommend Vortex. Their QC is lacking, big time. I think you'll find that's the general consensus.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:28:42
    Alright thanx CPT.  I was looking around on www.mechanicalkeyboards.com and saw that the vortex was the only one in fullsize with PBT caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:37:23
    Full size + dyesub PBT caps = Unicomp :D

    I'm not a huge fan of PBT. I just don't like the texture. To my fingers, smooth ABS (aka worn Cherry Corp) feel the best and "grippiest," while textured PBT feel "slick." I know this goes against what almost everyone else here believes, but I guess my fingers are just different from everyone else's. That's why I don't really get the whole PBT craze. Doubleshot ABS legends will last forever, the same as dyesub on PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frenchie4111 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:54:44
    Question: What is the easiest way to keep my baby safe while traveling from location to location? I am carrying a backpack that I would like to store it in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:59:43
    Quote from: frenchie4111 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:54:44
    Question: What is the easiest way to keep my baby safe while traveling from location to location? I am carrying a backpack that I would like to store it in.

    For just a keyboard cover/sleeve, you can try using a gunsock or check out the cases in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42754.msg866039#msg866039). TTesports and Razer also carry specialty keyboard bags specifically designed to carry cases. I'm sure other companies have something similar as well. For the meetups I've been to, the stock boxes or cardboard boxes seem popular. I carried all my boards in stock boxes.

    I'm also having a custom keyboard carrying bag made for me. I'll post pictures later but there will be no GB or any ones made for sale. Just specifically for me. Sorry ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:00:26
    Quote from: frenchie4111 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:54:44
    Question: What is the easiest way to keep my baby safe while traveling from location to location? I am carrying a backpack that I would like to store it in.
    I use a stroller. Children don't like backpacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:07:38
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:37:23
    I'm not a huge fan of PBT. I just don't like the texture. To my fingers, smooth ABS (aka worn Cherry Corp) feel the best and "grippiest," while textured PBT feel "slick." I know this goes against what almost everyone else here believes, but I guess my fingers are just different from everyone else's. That's why I don't really get the whole PBT craze. Doubleshot ABS legends will last forever, the same as dyesub on PBT.

    I also feel that PBT is overhyped. I do like them but I don't subscribe to the "PBT or die" mentality that seems to persist. That being said, I also like SP ABS caps...the thin ones ^__^

    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:00:26
    Quote from: frenchie4111 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:54:44
    Question: What is the easiest way to keep my baby safe while traveling from location to location? I am carrying a backpack that I would like to store it in.
    I use a stroller. Children don't like backpacks.

    I heard that they really like those frontward facing harnesses that hang off your chest too. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:11:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:07:38
    I also like SP ABS caps...the thin ones ^__^

    GET OUT! Cherry or die!


    Jk, SP is great for cool looking sets. But I will always prefer to type on a Cherry set. However I haven't tried a full PBT set, but I have two sets of IMSTO waiting at home right now waiting to be tried.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:21:56
    Quote from: The_Beast on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:11:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:07:38
    I also like SP ABS caps...the thin ones ^__^

    GET OUT! Cherry or die!


    Jk, SP is great for cool looking sets. But I will always prefer to type on a Cherry set. However I haven't tried a full PBT set, but I have two sets of IMSTO waiting at home right now waiting to be tried.

    I have SP caps on my Filco, Imsto PBT caps on my FC700R, and getting Cherry DS for my Epsilon. Im an equal opportunity keycap lover ^.^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sai on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:56:57
    Quote from: The_Beast on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:11:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:07:38
    I also like SP ABS caps...the thin ones ^__^

    GET OUT! Cherry or die!


    Jk, SP is great for cool looking sets. But I will always prefer to type on a Cherry set. However I haven't tried a full PBT set, but I have two sets of IMSTO waiting at home right now waiting to be tried.

    Get OUT! Cherry or die! :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:02:06
    It's all preferences. I only like Cherry profile, and don't really care who made them or out of what plastic. It's all about having the right shapes that I find most comfortable for typing on. Cherry keycaps being some of the best looking also does not hurt anything either though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:10:25
    Would switches on a QFR, fit on a Phantom Plated phantom board?  :confused:

    unsure about PCB mounted and Plate mounted...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:13:37
    Quote from: eRadicatedZomBiE on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:10:25
    Would switches on a QFR, fit on a Phantom Plated phantom board?  :confused:

    unsure about PCB mounted and Plate mounted...

    Should work since the QFR is plate mount. You can always make PCB mount switches into plate mount by clipping the legs of the bottom of the switch body. However, you cannot turn plate mount into PCB mount. You can use plate mount on a PCB only board, but you'll have to make sure all the switches are parallel otherwise your caps will look really weird
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:14:37
    Quote from: eRadicatedZomBiE on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:10:25
    Would switches on a QFR, fit on a Phantom Plated phantom board?  :confused:

    unsure about PCB mounted and Plate mounted...

    You can also check this link from the DT wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Switch_mount) which has pictures of the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:21:19
    Cherry switches are cherry switches.  The only difference between PCB mount and Plate mount is the extra plastic pins sticking out the bottom.  They are interchangeable unless you have PCB switches and your PCB doesn't have the holes for 'em.  And even then, you can just snip them off with a set of edge cutters and be on your way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Spokoman on Wed, 08 May 2013, 13:10:11
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 08 May 2013, 10:00:26
    Quote from: frenchie4111 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:54:44
    Question: What is the easiest way to keep my baby safe while traveling from location to location? I am carrying a backpack that I would like to store it in.
    I use a stroller. Children don't like backpacks.
    LMAO... I'll have to tell my baby son I have to borrow his for the NYC meetup  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 08 May 2013, 13:10:43
    Heh. I try.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:01:34
    How far is a pcb from the case/ backplate. Also is a pcb such as the phantom/ gh60 mounted with aluminum standoffs like these?   
    (http://b.pololu-files.com/picture/0J3727.600.jpg?5080ffa337580f4b9c143aa79f189375)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:06:18
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:01:34
    How far is a pcb from the case/ backplate. Also is a pcb such as the phantom/ gh60 mounted with aluminum standoffs like these?   
    Show Image
    (http://b.pololu-files.com/picture/0J3727.600.jpg?5080ffa337580f4b9c143aa79f189375)


    Phantom is plate mount only. Gh60 can be pcb mount, plate mount or a mix of the two. I don't think there is an answer to your first question since the spacing will be different for every pcb/case. Which pcb and case did you have in mind?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:11:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:06:18
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:01:34
    How far is a pcb from the case/ backplate. Also is a pcb such as the phantom/ gh60 mounted with aluminum standoffs like these?   
    Show Image
    (http://b.pololu-files.com/picture/0J3727.600.jpg?5080ffa337580f4b9c143aa79f189375)


    Phantom is plate mount only. Gh60 can be pcb mount, plate mount or a mix of the two. I don't think there is an answer to your first question since the spacing will be different for every pcb/case. Which pcb and case did you have in mind?

    First of all this is for a custom gh60 case. I was going to mount the pcb to the backplate and the plate would be attached to the pcb via the switches. I was going to just go with 1/4" aluminum spacers to attach the pcb to the case, but I'm not sure if there is a set distance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:17:03
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:11:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:06:18
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:01:34
    How far is a pcb from the case/ backplate. Also is a pcb such as the phantom/ gh60 mounted with aluminum standoffs like these?   
    Show Image
    (http://b.pololu-files.com/picture/0J3727.600.jpg?5080ffa337580f4b9c143aa79f189375)


    Phantom is plate mount only. Gh60 can be pcb mount, plate mount or a mix of the two. I don't think there is an answer to your first question since the spacing will be different for every pcb/case. Which pcb and case did you have in mind?

    First of all this is for a custom gh60 case. I was going to mount the pcb to the backplate and the plate would be attached to the pcb via the switches. I was going to just go with 1/4" aluminum spacers to attach the pcb to the case, but I'm not sure if there is a set distance.

    That defeats the whole point of a plate mount, mate! You attach the plate to the case with screws or w/e, and then the switches hold the pcb in place. There's no need for the PCB to be attached to the case in any way if you're using a plate mount.

    Also, what kind of a case do you have in mind?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:20:56
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:17:03
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:11:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:06:18
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:01:34
    How far is a pcb from the case/ backplate. Also is a pcb such as the phantom/ gh60 mounted with aluminum standoffs like these?   
    Show Image
    (http://b.pololu-files.com/picture/0J3727.600.jpg?5080ffa337580f4b9c143aa79f189375)


    Phantom is plate mount only. Gh60 can be pcb mount, plate mount or a mix of the two. I don't think there is an answer to your first question since the spacing will be different for every pcb/case. Which pcb and case did you have in mind?

    First of all this is for a custom gh60 case. I was going to mount the pcb to the backplate and the plate would be attached to the pcb via the switches. I was going to just go with 1/4" aluminum spacers to attach the pcb to the case, but I'm not sure if there is a set distance.

    That defeats the whole point of a plate mount, mate! You attach the plate to the case with screws or w/e, and then the switches hold the pcb in place. There's no need for the PCB to be attached to the case in any way if you're using a plate mount.

    Well that clears a whole lot up! Thanks. My question still remains though, how far should the pcb be from the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:24:59
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:20:56
    Well that clears a whole lot up! Thanks. My question still remains though, how far should the pcb be from the case.

    Since you're doing plate mounting you won't need to worry about how far the pcb is from the base, but instead how far the plate is. Cherry spec (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm) says the top face of the plate is 0.33in from the bottom of the pins, although you should leave a little bit of leeway. A 10mm or 0.4in distance from the top of the plate and the base of the case should be fine.

    You can also use the cherry spec to work out how far the pcb should be aswell.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:29:26
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:24:59
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:20:56
    Well that clears a whole lot up! Thanks. My question still remains though, how far should the pcb be from the case.

    Since you're doing plate mounting you won't need to worry about how far the pcb is from the base, but instead how far the plate is. Cherry spec (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm) says the top face of the plate is 0.33in from the bottom of the pins, although you should leave a little bit of leeway. A 10mm or 0.4in distance from the top of the plate and the base of the case should be fine.

    You can also use the cherry spec to work out how far the pcb should be aswell.

    Ok thanks. I have the the pcb and plate drawn out in CAD, I'm good there, I just needed to know what the spacing was.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:33:15
    Any updates on the CPTDubs Case?  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:34:14
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:33:15
    Any updates on the CPTDubs Case?  :p
    What is this CPTDubs case you speak of?  :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:57:23
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:33:15
    Any updates on the CPTDubs Case?  :p

    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:34:14
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:33:15
    Any updates on the CPTDubs Case?  :p
    What is this CPTDubs case you speak of?  :eek:

    A joke we had in the IRC. We want to make a 60% case that looks like the Duck Poker. Nothing serious. Don't worry Photekq, I still will fully support your case :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 08 May 2013, 22:43:15
    Question: does aftermarket key caps feels different from stocked key caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 22:45:12
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 08 May 2013, 22:43:15
    Question: does aftermarket key caps feels different from stocked key caps?

    Which aftermarket keycaps and which stock keycaps? That's a very broad and generic question. There's many different materials and profiles that both stock and aftermarket caps have. Please be a little more specific.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Wed, 08 May 2013, 22:46:31
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 08 May 2013, 22:43:15
    Question: does aftermarket key caps feels different from stocked key caps?

    Yes. Especially if they're made of different materials. For example, if stock keycaps is ABS plastic and aftermarket keycaps is PBT, you'll definetly perceive the difference.


    ps: ninja'ed :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 22:49:53
    My Leopold has stock PBT caps with Leopold OEM profile. And I can get aftermarket ABS caps, I just bought some from the GMK buy, which are Cherry Doubleshots. So the answer you gave isn't incorrect, but it doesn't really give a good picture. Different profiles and materials will feel different for each person. "Stock" and "aftermarket" caps doesn't really describe caps all that well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:00:49
    I think you are being a bit too nitpicky, you know very well that the most popular keyboards (QFR for example) comes with ABS OEM profile, and I think he wants know if there is a difference given that other variables remains constant (of course he will feel difference from OEM profile to, say, spherical!)

    Or maybe he just wants to know what are the types of aftermarket keycaps but asked in a funny way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:00:53
    Let's say the caps from a $100 keyboard like QFR
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:02:09
    See ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:03:15
    I heard (rather, read) that there is "double-shot" and others, aside from better build quality, do they actually feel different?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:05:54
    Yes they do, I already answered that (double-shot is ABS, and as I said ABS feels different from PBT).

    You can read lots of info in that subject here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39175.0) and here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43272.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:10:14
    Quote from: F u r u y á on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:00:49
    I think you are being a bit too nitpicky, you know very well that the most popular keyboards (QFR for example) comes with ABS OEM profile, and I think he wants know if there is a difference given that other variables remains constant (of course he will feel difference from OEM profile to, say, spherical!)

    Or maybe he just wants to know what are the types of aftermarket keycaps but asked in a funny way.

    I don't assume here. I just wanted for him to clarify his question so I could give a proper opinion. Don't tell me what you think I know, I'm not a mind reader.


    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:00:53
    Let's say the caps from a $100 keyboard like QFR

    If the QFR caps are anything like the Blackwidow I had, then the Filco caps felt pretty similar to the Blackwidow caps. Thin ABS but I believe the caps were pad printed. If I compare my stock Filco caps to my Cherry Imsto caps, the profile and material both feel different. The Filco caps feel thin and the Cherry Imsto caps are thick and smooth. If we compared my stock Leopold caps to the Cherry Imsto, the only difference is the profile. The Leopold caps are very flat.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:11:44
    Thank you both very much!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:15:14
    You're welcome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 09 May 2013, 06:30:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:57:23
    A joke we had in the IRC. We want to make a 60% case that looks like the Duck Poker. Nothing serious. Don't worry Photekq, I still will fully support your case :D
    If you make a 60% case that looks like a Duck Poker then I'll buy it, especially with the name 'CPTDubs' :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 May 2013, 06:52:50
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 09 May 2013, 06:30:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:57:23
    A joke we had in the IRC. We want to make a 60% case that looks like the Duck Poker. Nothing serious. Don't worry Photekq, I still will fully support your case :D
    If you make a 60% case that looks like a Duck Poker then I'll buy it, especially with the name 'CPTDubs' :p

    You think my engineering skills are good? That's nothing compared to my name-giving skills! :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 09 May 2013, 07:13:01
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:24:59
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 08 May 2013, 21:20:56
    Well that clears a whole lot up! Thanks. My question still remains though, how far should the pcb be from the case.

    Since you're doing plate mounting you won't need to worry about how far the pcb is from the base, but instead how far the plate is. Cherry spec (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm) says the top face of the plate is 0.33in from the bottom of the pins, although you should leave a little bit of leeway. A 10mm or 0.4in distance from the top of the plate and the base of the case should be fine.

    You can also use the cherry spec to work out how far the pcb should be aswell.

    I prefer to snug it up closer.  I like 5/16 inches or 8 mm.  Although it depends on where you're measuring from.  From the TOP of the plate I'd probably do 3/8 inch or 1cm

    EDIT: just reread photekq's works.  Nevermind.  Just remember to take into account if you have soldered parts attached to the PCB.  I had to add a cutout for the USB connector.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: amishmansteve on Thu, 09 May 2013, 11:17:20
    Quick one: I have a blue LED backlit QuickfireTK. If I threw a white gasmask keycap on it would the blue shine through the eyes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 May 2013, 11:18:44
    Don't think so. Think the Ivory GasMask caps are solid. Unlike the Black ones which seem to have translucent eyes which would allow light to come through.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 09 May 2013, 11:20:14
    The Black ones had painted colored eyes, in green and red. The white ones were just completely white.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 May 2013, 11:21:51
    Thanks moose, I always thought they were translucent like those Ducky novelty caps. So I guess neither GasMask caps will allow light to shine through the eyes amishmansteve.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: amishmansteve on Thu, 09 May 2013, 11:23:33
    Thanks for the help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 09 May 2013, 18:53:21
    Can buckling spring switches be plate mounted?  Or on a related note in regard to the mod this is planned for are there any MX switches that are close to or exceed BS switches in tactility and noise?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 09 May 2013, 18:57:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 09 May 2013, 18:53:21
    Can buckling spring switches be plate mounted?  Or on a related note in regard to the mod this is planned for are there any MX switches that are close to or exceed BS switches in tactility and noise?

    Buckling spring switches are mounted in a barrel plate. They are not self-contained, like an MX or Alps switch. They are a spring inside a barrel.

    And no, not really. In the same way that Topre switches don't feel like any kind of MX switch, neither do buckling springs. They have a feel all their own.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 09 May 2013, 20:04:22
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 09 May 2013, 18:53:21
    Can buckling spring switches be plate mounted?  Or on a related note in regard to the mod this is planned for are there any MX switches that are close to or exceed BS switches in tactility and noise?

    A long debate could be mounted on what component(s) of buckling spring keyboards are "switches" since they are so different.

    The capacitive switches of the F are definitely "mounted" on a plate, if you can call them mounted, since they lie flat, and the membranes of the M are not "mounted" at all, but they are sandwiched between plates. After you have taken these beasts apart, you realize that the buckling spring parts are just causing the "hammers" to bounce down and make some connection between other components. Cherries have stems/legs/plungers/whatever that actuate something at the bottom, but IBM "switches" are not self-contained in some sort of body or housing.

    So, to answer the above question realistically, let's just say that buckling springs are not switches at all, in the usual sense.

    The secondary question, what other switches are most similar to buckling springs, well, I won't touch THAT.

    Same thing that jdcarpe said, but more long-winded.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Thu, 09 May 2013, 21:07:34
    Is that true that greens most closely reassembles the blucking  spring in terms of feels and we eights? What's missing from greens compare to blucking  springs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 09 May 2013, 21:20:34
    Quote from: linziyi on Thu, 09 May 2013, 21:07:34
    Is that true that greens most closely reassembles the blucking  spring in terms of feels and we eights? What's missing from greens compare to blucking  springs?

    Read that on Slashdot?  I don't think they feel much like buckling springs at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 09 May 2013, 21:38:47
    Alright thanks guys.  But I guess I am asking the wrong question for the info I am looking for.  Can a BS switch be installed by itself to be used as a momentary switch?  The intended use is going to be a keyboard mounted power switch but be hard wired to the PC so I don't have to mess with firmware.  Or would this task be better suited for a plate mount MX switch?  With the way I want to design the case it will be sitting above the PCB.  If this would be possible does anyone know if there was a cap for BS switches that have the power logo on it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 09 May 2013, 21:42:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 09 May 2013, 21:38:47
    Alright thanks guys.  But I guess I am asking the wrong question for the info I am looking for.  Can a BS switch be installed by itself to be used as a momentary switch?  The intended use is going to be a keyboard mounted power switch but be hard wired to the PC so I don't have to mess with firmware.  Or would this task be better suited for a plate mount MX switch?  With the way I want to design the case it will be sitting above the PCB.  If this would be possible does anyone know if there was a cap for BS switches that have the power logo on it?

    No since you'd need the capacitive sheet under it.  If you can find one and attach leads to the sheet it might work, but an MX or Alps switch would be much easier.  And if you want a nice power logo switch for Cherry, check out Qwerkeys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Fri, 10 May 2013, 00:09:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 09 May 2013, 21:38:47
    Alright thanks guys.  But I guess I am asking the wrong question for the info I am looking for.  Can a BS switch be installed by itself to be used as a momentary switch?  The intended use is going to be a keyboard mounted power switch but be hard wired to the PC so I don't have to mess with firmware.  Or would this task be better suited for a plate mount MX switch?  With the way I want to design the case it will be sitting above the PCB.  If this would be possible does anyone know if there was a cap for BS switches that have the power logo on it?

    Not gonna say its impossible, but its probably very complicated. The way BS works is that when the spring buckles, I quote from wikipedia:

    "the hammer is pivoted forward by the spring and strikes an electrical contact which registers the key press. In a Model M, the electrical contact is a membrane sheet similar to that of a modern dome switch keyboard. On the older Model F design, a capacitive contact was used instead."

    the buckling spring in model ms is an actual mechanism that is used to strike a membrane sheet, unlike the electrical contacts in a cherry mx switch.

    if you look at the third image in this thread http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9761.0

    you'd see that the mechanism is housed in a 'barrel' that is part of the entire plate for the keyboard. It might be possible to replicate that for a single button (using 3d printing perhaps?) but I imagine that's a lot of work, not to mention you'd still have to figure out how to substitute the actuation part using a pcb instead of the usual membrane switch (not actually sure how the model F works), but I think with just the hammer mechanism, if you're looking to replicate it on the usual pcbboards, you would be basically redesigning the whole switch.

    I'm no expert, but that's my take on the question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 00:12:13
    Sounds good I think then I will scrap the whole BS power switch then.  So in response to that what is the heaviest, most tactile switch that I can hope to acquire from a Cherry MX variant?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Fri, 10 May 2013, 00:19:57
    if you're looking for a click, stock switches would be either green or whites (whites have a softer click). extra note: greens and blues have the same stems, just different springs.

    If you're looking for tactile, non clicking, mx light greys.

    There's also the korean springs rated at 80g if you can get them to mod any of the above, but I haven't had any experience with those to tell you if they're actually heavier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 07:58:01
    Quote from: Larken on Fri, 10 May 2013, 00:19:57
    if you're looking for a click, stock switches would be either green or whites (whites have a softer click). extra note: greens and blues have the same stems, just different springs.

    If you're looking for tactile, non clicking, mx light greys.

    There's also the korean springs rated at 80g if you can get them to mod any of the above, but I haven't had any experience with those to tell you if they're actually heavier.

    Thanks a lot for the info Larken.  If anyone has both which is louder the greens or the blues? 

    Now another question for the same project.  I am looking for a switch (not a keyboard switch) preferable rotary style that I can have 2 inputs an select which one goes out to another seperate switch for each input.  For the physical positions for the switch i would prefer Momentary - Off - Momentary but On - Off - On would do.   If I am not explaining this right please let me know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 08:00:16
    The Blues have a higher pitched click but the Greens are "clickier". I think the Blues are louder.

    And I'm not sure about the momentary switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 08:59:58
    Thanks CPT.  If i can't find a single rotary type switch I guess I will find a couple rotary style momentary switches and just put them next to each other.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:01:38
    Well let's see if anyone smarter than me comments.    And you're welcome ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:05:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 07:58:01
    Now another question for the same project.  I am looking for a switch (not a keyboard switch) preferable rotary style that I can have 2 inputs an select which one goes out to another seperate switch for each input.  For the physical positions for the switch i would prefer Momentary - Off - Momentary but On - Off - On would do.   If I am not explaining this right please let me know.

    I guess I don't understand how the switch is supposed to work...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Spokoman on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:08:09
    How large of an investment is it to make ergo-clears?

    I have tested the clears and the browns. The force to press of the clears is a bit too much for me. The browns... they're fine, but now I get why people say it feels as if there was some dirt stuck in there. The clears don't have that which is nice. So are ergo-clears a happy medium?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:08:26
    I have no idea if this is what you mean, but its worth a shot.

    http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Switches_and_knobs/Rotary_Switches.html?tab=Pictures

    no idea how you're gonna use that on a keyboard, or even what you plan to do with it. but I'm definitely looking forward to it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:13:15
    Quote from: Spokoman on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:08:09
    How large of an investment is it to make ergo-clears?

    I have tested the clears and the browns. The force to press of the clears is a bit too much for me. The browns... they're fine, but now I get why people say it feels as if there was some dirt stuck in there. The clears don't have that which is nice. So are ergo-clears a happy medium?

    It depends on a couple factors.


    To some people, they are a happy medium. Others prefer stock clears. It's just personal preference.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:13:44
    Quote from: Spokoman on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:08:09
    How large of an investment is it to make ergo-clears?

    I have tested the clears and the browns. The force to press of the clears is a bit too much for me. The browns... they're fine, but now I get why people say it feels as if there was some dirt stuck in there. The clears don't have that which is nice. So are ergo-clears a happy medium?

    it's actually a larger chunk of dirt stuck inside with the ergoclears, depending on how you see it. Wouldn't call it a happy medium but a whole new experience. You'd likely have to try it to find out if you like it, but I personally love lubed ergoclears, even considering the amount of work needed to do it.

    you'd need to be able to open up your switches. with the boards in your signature, you'd have to desolder the entire board, swap the springs in, lube it (highly recommended if you're going to take the trouble to do ergoclears), and solder everything back in. all in all you'd need to invest in some tools and source for the springs, unless you approach one of the modders around here in geekhack to do the job for you, for a fee, in which case you'd just need to source for the parts required.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:14:19
    Quote from: Spokoman on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:08:09
    How large of an investment is it to make ergo-clears?

    I have tested the clears and the browns. The force to press of the clears is a bit too much for me. The browns... they're fine, but now I get why people say it feels as if there was some dirt stuck in there. The clears don't have that which is nice. So are ergo-clears a happy medium?

    On paper ergo-clears sounded great to me. In actuality, ergo-clears felt like Browns to me and they tend to jam. Like you press down on the keys and they stay in the down position. I prefer stock Clears and despise Browns. And I've tried ergo-clears on Hashbaz's Universal Switch Tester as well as i3oilermaker's QFR. You can also check my Wiki page in my signature for more in-depth thoughts on switches. And what do you mean by "investment"? Time or money?

    Edit: listen to Jdcarpe. I'm not actually sure how much the time investment is. Plus he's got that Vulcan knowledge
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:41:26
    Ok here is an image of the schematic of what i am looking for but in a rotary switch not a standard lever style.

    Sorry about the wierd size of the image in relation to the actual subject but paint wouldnt' let me crop it.

    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:47:56
    Must be over my head, since I've never heard of a momentary switch in a rotary style
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:56:02
    Neither have I jdcarpe. Sorry Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:33:55
    Can anyone recommend a good free CAD type program similar to Google Sketchup?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:34:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:33:55
    Can anyone recommend a good free CAD type program similar to Google Sketchup?

    I've heard good things FreeCAD but I've never tried it. I have SolidWorks at home.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:36:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:33:55
    Can anyone recommend a good free CAD type program similar to Google Sketchup?
    Solidworks all the way, especially if you're a beginner. It's nice and simple. Very intuitive and easy to use unlike autocad etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:40:05
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:36:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:33:55
    Can anyone recommend a good free CAD type program similar to Google Sketchup?
    Solidworks all the way, especially if you're a beginner. It's nice and simple. Very intuitive and easy to use unlike autocad etc.

    I've used both.

    In my opinion Autocad is 100x better for 2d designs and shear speed of drawing. If I want to see something in 3D, then I'll use solidworks.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:41:25
    He said free CAD guise. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:44:15
    I don't need the features to export to a CNC friendly format just want to try and draw up stuff and just can't seem to get the hang of Google Sketch up.  Just want something simple-ish.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:46:09
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:41:25
    He said free CAD guise. :P

    Attend college.... then AutoCAD is free!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:46:56
    /me agrees there. Free AutoCAD is niceee.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:47:33
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:46:56
    /me agrees there. Free AutoCAD is niceee.

    Sooooo nice........



    feels goodman
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 10:49:06
    Would LOVE to for either Aeronautical Engineer or Mechanical Engineer with a minor in robotics but my current job and absolutly no reliability on the schedule plus for my job 8 hour days is a vacation.  And my family couldn't afford me to quit for school.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 11:19:21
    It's pretty awesome :3

    I really love my job
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 May 2013, 11:26:22
    I do wish i could join you in your career but in a way i am just on the other side of the prints
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 11:33:56
    Youre on the important side of the prints melvang. I hope one day to migrate to the manufacturing/shop/factory floor side of my job ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Fri, 10 May 2013, 15:09:17
    where can I get 80g (greens/whites) springs?

    apparently sherryton's springs have some controversy around them regarding their true weight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 10 May 2013, 15:15:46
    Trade for it  ^-^ . That'll get you some true original cherry springs.

    I'll dig up some white springs and give you some. You can have some clear ones too if you need.
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 10 May 2013, 15:28:26
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Fri, 10 May 2013, 15:09:17
    where can I get 80g (greens/whites) springs?

    apparently sherryton's springs have some controversy around them regarding their true weight.

    I've got some Clear springs I could get rid of, but Green and White springs will likely be a little harder to find since they're less common.  Like WFD said, you can try and trade for some or buy some though.

    If you can't find any, it might be worth just trying out the ones from Sherryton and seeing how you like them.  They're not too terribly expensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alfa147x on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:27:30
    What is an easy way to map a keyboard's matrix? I have exposed the bottom side of the PCB. Any tips?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:30:26
    Breadboard with a bunch of jump wires, and probe each row and column with a DMM
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alfa147x on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:33:22
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:30:26
    Breadboard with a bunch of jump wires, and probe each row and column with a DMM

    Ah the breadboard idea is good thanks. I was going to use a multimeter. What is a DDM?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:36:31
    Quote from: alfa147x on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:33:22
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:30:26
    Breadboard with a bunch of jump wires, and probe each row and column with a DMM

    Ah the breadboard idea is good thanks. I was going to use a multimeter. What is a DDM?

    Thanks!

    DMM = digital multi-meter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:48:02
    Quote from: alfa147x on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:27:30
    What is an easy way to map a keyboard's matrix? I have exposed the bottom side of the PCB. Any tips?

    What kind of keyboard is it? bpiphany has already mapped several, here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Controller_matrix_traces).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alfa147x on Fri, 10 May 2013, 17:03:06
    Quote from: ray4jc on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:36:31
    Quote from: alfa147x on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:33:22
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:30:26
    Breadboard with a bunch of jump wires, and probe each row and column with a DMM

    Ah the breadboard idea is good thanks. I was going to use a multimeter. What is a DDM?

    Thanks!

    DMM = digital multi-meter

    Haha. That was easy enough.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:48:02
    Quote from: alfa147x on Fri, 10 May 2013, 16:27:30
    What is an easy way to map a keyboard's matrix? I have exposed the bottom side of the PCB. Any tips?

    What kind of keyboard is it? bpiphany has already mapped several, here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Controller_matrix_traces).

    Filco MiniLa
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Fri, 10 May 2013, 17:47:05
    Is costar stabilizier better or cherry ones better?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 10 May 2013, 17:48:22
    Quote from: linziyi on Fri, 10 May 2013, 17:47:05
    Is costar stabilizier better or cherry ones better?

    You're going to see differing opinions on this, but my vote goes to Cherry plate mount stabilizers :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 17:52:12
    Quote from: linziyi on Fri, 10 May 2013, 17:47:05
    Is costar stabilizier better or cherry ones better?

    I prefer Costars but only slightly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 10 May 2013, 17:52:41
    Oh yeah... Congrats on 50 pages CPT and thanks for making one of the most helpful threads on the forums.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 17:58:23
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 10 May 2013, 17:52:41
    Oh yeah... Congrats on 50 pages CPT and thanks for making one of the most helpful threads on the forums.

    Thanks mate! I honestly stole this idea from TeamLiquid and didn't think it'd take off. I'm really excited that it's come this far ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 10 May 2013, 18:13:18
    Is there anything team liquid haven't done?  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 18:15:48
    They couldn't keep Sea, Nony, Haypro, or HuK on their team :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Spokoman on Fri, 10 May 2013, 18:52:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:14:19
    Quote from: Spokoman on Fri, 10 May 2013, 09:08:09
    How large of an investment is it to make ergo-clears?

    I have tested the clears and the browns. The force to press of the clears is a bit too much for me. The browns... they're fine, but now I get why people say it feels as if there was some dirt stuck in there. The clears don't have that which is nice. So are ergo-clears a happy medium?

    On paper ergo-clears sounded great to me. In actuality, ergo-clears felt like Browns to me and they tend to jam. Like you press down on the keys and they stay in the down position. I prefer stock Clears and despise Browns. And I've tried ergo-clears on Hashbaz's Universal Switch Tester as well as i3oilermaker's QFR. You can also check my Wiki page in my signature for more in-depth thoughts on switches. And what do you mean by "investment"? Time or money?

    Edit: listen to Jdcarpe. I'm not actually sure how much the time investment is. Plus he's got that Vulcan knowledge
    Thanks for replies everyone. When I asked the question I guess I was thinking about money, but as few GHs pointed out time is a resource as well. I will see if anyone brings ergoclears to the NYC meetup. If they stick more than it is not something I'd like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 11 May 2013, 04:13:30
    WFD where did you get the cloth that whips without leaving lint everywhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 11 May 2013, 04:18:29
    Quote from: TheQsanity on Sat, 11 May 2013, 04:13:30
    WFD where did you get the cloth that whips without leaving lint everywhere?

    You mean a microfiber cloth?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 11 May 2013, 04:33:52
    Nope I have lots of those :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 11 May 2013, 04:38:08
    Quote from: TheQsanity on Sat, 11 May 2013, 04:13:30
    WFD where did you get the cloth that whips without leaving lint everywhere?

    Which video are you referring to? Well either way, I use kimwipes with alcohol to clean after soldering. They're disposable microfiber that doesn't leave lint. I worked in a biotech lab, so I get them free. But I believe these are the same ones:

    http://www.amazon.com/Kimtech-Science-KimWipes-Delicate-Wiper/dp/B0013HT2QW (http://goo.gl/oS2e6)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 11 May 2013, 04:42:17
    I don't remember. IIRC KMAC?

    Anyways thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:37:11
    Got a couple questions mostly related to dimensions of key caps and stems.  I would much prefer precision dimensions with accuracy of either .001" or .01mm.

    Here is a list of dimensions I am looking for.

    Depth of the stem on caps lock key

    Difference between vertical centerlines of the stem on center stem and offset stem

    Also would anyone have a few extra crap caps lock keys I could get to sacrifice to the ideas floating in my melon?  I can pay for them if need be.  Be advised they won't be coming back.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:41:21
    I hate to do this Melvang but could you ask for your caps in the Free Stuff Thread? I made the precedent that this thread shouldn't be used to find/trade/sell/buy things and I'd like to stay consistent. Thank you =X  That being said, PM me and we can work something out. ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:57:03
    Not a problem man will post something in that thread
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:14:50
    Best TKL MX kb without branding?  LEDs won't be used.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:22:16
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:14:50
    Best TKL MX kb without branding?  LEDs won't be used.

    There are no "Best" boards. What are you looking for: Low price, high quality, finish, switch preference? Depending on what you're looking for besides LEDs and TKL will give you different answers and opinions. If there was a "best board", then we'd all have the same keyboard and switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:28:43
    Switch shouldn't matter as I want to try different stems and springs, but preferably blue or green.  Just looking for a real solid feeling that won't bend whilst pressing  keys and I have my own caps I'd like. It'd be nice to have in a black matte.  Also I'd want something easy to take apart for modding, as well as a detachable cable.
    Thanks,  panthers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:35:09
    Um I think you should just get a QFR. If you think "switches don't matter" than I'm not sure how I can properly answer the question...There's a lot of mods for it that have been floating around. And it's plate mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:44:22
    I thought to swap springs/open my switches on a plate mount you had to desolder them? I meant I want something where I can replace stems and springs easily so I can make it have custom switches for my tastes...
    Thanks again,
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:47:32
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:44:22
    I thought to swap springs/open my switches on a plate mount you had to desolder them? I meant I want something where I can replace stems and springs easily so I can make it have custom switches for my tastes...
    Thanks again,

    If you want a solid feeling keyboard with changeable switches, you'll need a custom plate or a phantom
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:52:12
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:47:32
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:44:22
    I thought to swap springs/open my switches on a plate mount you had to desolder them? I meant I want something where I can replace stems and springs easily so I can make it have custom switches for my tastes...
    Thanks again,

    If you want a solid feeling keyboard with changeable switches, you'll need a custom plate or a phantom
    link for the Phantom? New here. Also, do they make custom plates for the TKL ducky shine 2 9k series?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:53:38
    WFD made a Universal TKL Plate. For the Phantom, I'm sure the Search Function will help ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:53:47
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:52:12
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:47:32
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:44:22
    I thought to swap springs/open my switches on a plate mount you had to desolder them? I meant I want something where I can replace stems and springs easily so I can make it have custom switches for my tastes...
    Thanks again,

    If you want a solid feeling keyboard with changeable switches, you'll need a custom plate or a phantom
    link for the Phantom? New here. Also, do they make custom plates for the TKL ducky shine 2 9k series?

    Better off with a QFR and custom plate
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:58:31
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:53:47
    Better off with a QFR and custom plate

    This has a custom plate, right? - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43169.msg878846#msg878846

    Quote from: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:04:25
    Yuppers

    lol thanks. I thought so, but I don't know too much about plates outside of 60% boards  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:04:25
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:58:31
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:53:47
    Better off with a QFR and custom plate

    This has a custom plate, right? - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43169.msg878846#msg878846

    Yuppers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:13:26
    Thinking about selling my ducky for that custom QFR.  How much will a tkl ducky shine 2 go for here with white Led and blue switch? Also, is $100 a good price for a set of IMSTO caps? Anyways, night, will come back tomorrow. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:14:57
    As I said in the OP, there is a pricing thread. Please go there to have your question answered.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:24:19
    Kk, sorry!   If I got the kb with greens, could I change to stem to a linear key like blacks or clears and get the springs instead of buying them with the enclosure?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:34:42
    I'm pretty sure you can swap stems/springs but it'll be hard to find *just* the stems. It's easier to find springs though as switches will share the same spring. For example, MX Blues/Reds/Browns use the same springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:39:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:34:42
    I'm pretty sure you can swap stems/springs but it'll be hard to find *just* the stems. It's easier to find springs though as switches will share the same spring. For example, MX Blues/Reds/Browns use the same springs.
    gotcha, thanks.   Also, they make custom non cherry standard springs? Those seem fun.  Do you have any recs on a cheap,  quite number pad?  I need one for school next year as I heard it's constant typing on the numpad, and I don't want to use a rubber dome... :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:44:20
    Yes, there are custom springs. I just bought 62g springs. And you can buy an Adesso TenKeyPad for around ~$20-30. I'm also giving one away here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43163.msg878723#msg878723). ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 03:06:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:44:20
    Yes, there are custom springs. I just bought 62g springs. And you can buy an Adesso TenKeyPad for around ~$20-30. I'm also giving one away [ur=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43163.msg878723#msg878723]here[/url]. ^-^
    love the twerk on the thread, also, too bad I only have 10 posts! I need to spam 140 more soonish... :p  I'll probably get one of those Adesso ones, as they are pretty cheap! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Sun, 12 May 2013, 04:39:18
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:24:19
    Kk, sorry!   If I got the kb with greens, could I change to stem to a linear key like blacks or clears and get the springs instead of buying them with the enclosure?

    If you get it, I'll trade you some black stems and 62g springs for the green stems and springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 May 2013, 05:16:13
    Is it possible to post a picture in a thread here directly from an android phone without going through a computer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 12 May 2013, 05:58:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 12 May 2013, 05:16:13
    Is it possible to post a picture in a thread here directly from an android phone without going through a computer?

    Sure. If you're using a browser it'll need to be hosted. If you're using tapatalk, hit the little camera icon, choose gallery, and upload the photo :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 10:19:52
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Sun, 12 May 2013, 04:39:18
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:24:19
    Kk, sorry!   If I got the kb with greens, could I change to stem to a linear key like blacks or clears and get the springs instead of buying them with the enclosure?

    If you get it, I'll trade you some black stems and 62g springs for the green stems and springs.
    I'd love to try the springs, are they the gold plated ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 10:30:29
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 10:19:52
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Sun, 12 May 2013, 04:39:18
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:24:19
    Kk, sorry!   If I got the kb with greens, could I change to stem to a linear key like blacks or clears and get the springs instead of buying them with the enclosure?

    If you get it, I'll trade you some black stems and 62g springs for the green stems and springs.
    I'd love to try the springs, are they the gold plated ones?

    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Sun, 12 May 2013, 04:39:18
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:24:19
    Kk, sorry!   If I got the kb with greens, could I change to stem to a linear key like blacks or clears and get the springs instead of buying them with the enclosure?

    If you get it, I'll trade you some black stems and 62g springs for the green stems and springs.

    Can you guys please settle this in PMs?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 11:53:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 10:30:29
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 10:19:52
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Sun, 12 May 2013, 04:39:18
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:24:19
    Kk, sorry!   If I got the kb with greens, could I change to stem to a linear key like blacks or clears and get the springs instead of buying them with the enclosure?

    If you get it, I'll trade you some black stems and 62g springs for the green stems and springs.
    I'd love to try the springs, are they the gold plated ones?

    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Sun, 12 May 2013, 04:39:18
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 02:24:19
    Kk, sorry!   If I got the kb with greens, could I change to stem to a linear key like blacks or clears and get the springs instead of buying them with the enclosure?

    If you get it, I'll trade you some black stems and 62g springs for the green stems and springs.

    Can you guys please settle this in PMs?
    sure thing, sorry!  Also, I heard of ghetto greens, and the greens are just stiffer blues, so do they use the same stem?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 11:54:38
    Ghetto Greens are Blues with Black Springs I believe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 12 May 2013, 11:59:21
    so uh... this post went in the wrong place. I meant to reply to The_Beast.

    And wait for the HID Liberator for the QFR... hopefully.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 13:04:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 11:54:38
    Ghetto Greens are Blues with Black Springs I believe.
    actually what I'm wondering is if green and blues use the same stem, or if they're the same. I'm also wondering if browns use just a black stem with a weaker spring...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 13:12:54
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 13:04:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 11:54:38
    Ghetto Greens are Blues with Black Springs I believe.
    actually what I'm wondering is if green and blues use the same stem, or if they're the same. I'm also wondering if browns use just a black stem with a weaker spring...

    All the stem colors are different. Green, Blue, Brown, and Black all have different stems. It's the springs that are often shared. Blacks are linear, Browns are tactile; so the stems can't be the same.

    Edit: You should read through some of the Deskthority Wiki switch stuff. Link is here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/MX).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 May 2013, 21:43:38
    Are there any custom plates that allow easy switch swaps for full sized keyboards?  Also who h keyboards are they compatible with?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 12 May 2013, 21:45:38
    ^ No
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 12 May 2013, 21:46:13
    what's happening right now on irc
    (http://i.imgur.com/OGbgdwz.png)
    CPT i'm scared
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 21:49:27
    Freenode is doing something with their server right now and everyone is getting booted. Be calm my child and pray to the Halverson for guidance in your troubled times.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 12 May 2013, 21:52:51
    Oh great Halverson
    help us all with this burden that is the dying irc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Sun, 12 May 2013, 22:15:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 13:12:54
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 13:04:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 May 2013, 11:54:38
    Ghetto Greens are Blues with Black Springs I believe.
    actually what I'm wondering is if green and blues use the same stem, or if they're the same. I'm also wondering if browns use just a black stem with a weaker spring...

    All the stem colors are different. Green, Blue, Brown, and Black all have different stems. It's the springs that are often shared. Blacks are linear, Browns are tactile; so the stems can't be the same.

    Edit: You should read through some of the Deskthority Wiki switch stuff. Link is here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/MX).
    KK, thanks for the link! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 09:42:31
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 12 May 2013, 05:58:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 12 May 2013, 05:16:13
    Is it possible to post a picture in a thread here directly from an android phone without going through a computer?

    Sure. If you're using a browser it'll need to be hosted. If you're using tapatalk, hit the little camera icon, choose gallery, and upload the photo :)

    I upload photos directly from my Android phone all the time, without hosting. Just do the same thing you do on your computer in the browser.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:32:36
    I got it moose thanx.  I just used tapatalk.  I just don't like it for standard forum browsing.

    Now on to my question.

    Can anyone confirm if this KVM switch (http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx?itemid=1439628170&rid=91&origin=pla&gclid=COG-8s63k7cCFaVcMgodpWQAfQ) will work with a USB keyboard with a PS/2 adapter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:34:37
    Does the keyboard work with a PS/2 adapter plugged directly into your computer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:38:38
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:34:37
    Does the keyboard work with a PS/2 adapter plugged directly into your computer?

    Based on this I would assume that the answer to this question would be the answer.  That was what i figured it was but wanted to ask.

    Now has anyone had an existing plate modified for easy switch stem swap?  I have the dimensions but was wondering how it turned out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:41:57
    Well, that was just a precursory question. It's possible that even if it does work, it might not work properly with the KVM. Unless you found someone who had firsthand experience, or tried it out yourself, it'd be hard to say.

    I would think no, at least nothing I've ever seen. It'd be a lot to modify. I assume you're looking to mod it by hand? If you were looking to run it through a laser cutter, I would imagine the price to just make a new one may be negligible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:52:45
    thanks for the info moose.  But yeah i was either going to do it by hand or use a friends bridge port.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:54:32
    How does the spring weights on the Ultra Classic (http://pckeyboard.com/page/UltraClassic/UB40P46) compare to cherry switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:56:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:52:45
    thanks for the info moose.  But yeah i was either going to do it by hand or use a friends bridge port.

    Try it and see what happens. I would imagine that as long as you don't mess with the overall square too much, you would still be able to put a switch inside of it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:58:08
    thats what i was thinking
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:04:05
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 09:42:31
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 12 May 2013, 05:58:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 12 May 2013, 05:16:13
    Is it possible to post a picture in a thread here directly from an android phone without going through a computer?

    Sure. If you're using a browser it'll need to be hosted. If you're using tapatalk, hit the little camera icon, choose gallery, and upload the photo :)

    I upload photos directly from my Android phone all the time, without hosting. Just do the same thing you do on your computer in the browser.

    Why? Then you run the risk of the photos not being available a year from now for new people to see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:11:53
    Are you predicting another attack? And what's to say that the site you upload them to will be around for another year?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:22:08
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:11:53
    Are you predicting another attack? And what's to say that the site you upload them to will be around for another year?

    Lol no! It has more to do with the fact that I've lost photos/files on other forums as well, due to what I would I assume were filesystem/directory problems. There's also no reason for me to believe imageshack won't exist a year from now, but I won't deny that your question is valid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:22:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:54:32
    How does the spring weights on the Ultra Classic (http://pckeyboard.com/page/UltraClassic/UB40P46) compare to cherry switches?

    They are heavier in general (65-70g) to actuate. (heavier than blues, browns, and reds.)

    I think Cherry MX Greens require 80g, Blacks 60g
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:23:11
    Long live Imgur!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:33:46
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:22:08
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:11:53
    Are you predicting another attack? And what's to say that the site you upload them to will be around for another year?

    Lol no! It has more to do with the fact that I've lost photos/files on other forums as well, due to what I would I assume were filesystem/directory problems. There's also no reason for me to believe imageshack won't exist a year from now, but I won't deny that your question is valid.

    I was just messin' with ya, doll. It's not really all too important to me. I save all of my pictures, so if there were needed somewhere in the future, I have them. If not, then oh well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:41:55
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:54:32
    How does the spring weights on the Ultra Classic (http://pckeyboard.com/page/UltraClassic/UB40P46) compare to cherry switches?

    Really, the actuation force required has little to do with the feel of the switch. Buckling springs feel nothing like MX switches. And Topre feel nothing like either of those.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:45:25
    I realize that they don't feel like any MX switch was mostly wondering about actuation force.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 13 May 2013, 16:01:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:45:25
    I realize that they don't feel like any MX switch was mostly wondering about actuation force.

    Okay, good deal. I just wanted to let you and other people know. We get questions all the time about, "Which MX switch feels most like 55g Topre," and so forth.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 13 May 2013, 16:07:15
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 13 May 2013, 16:01:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:45:25
    I realize that they don't feel like any MX switch was mostly wondering about actuation force.

    Okay, good deal. I just wanted to let you and other people know. We get questions all the time about, "Which MX switch feels most like 55g Topre," and so forth.

    Green MX = Buclking Spring

    Ergo Clears = Topre

    FTW!...ok just kidding....:p

    *Note I have never tried any switch mentioned above...yet....


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Mon, 13 May 2013, 18:24:07
    after desoldering a WYSE terminal board today, I really want to know why they bent the pins on some of the switch legs. It's annoying.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 13 May 2013, 22:18:02
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Mon, 13 May 2013, 18:24:07
    after desoldering a WYSE terminal board today, I really want to know why they bent the pins on some of the switch legs. It's annoying.

    Ahh, so that's what you meant in the soldering thread. :)  I couldn't quite get what you were asking. Yeah, just remove the solder from the joint. Then, to remove the switch from the PCB/plate, put the tip of a phillips head screwdriver on the little nub where the switch pokes out of the PCB, and push...hard! It will pop right out of there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 13 May 2013, 22:44:46
    ^ Careful when you do that though. If there are enough solder still left underneath the bent pins, it might rip off some of the trace. Of course, if you don't care about the board, pry as much as you want. But some modern boards, like Leopold, have bent pins too. In this case, heat the solder, while it's melted take some fine tip pliers and unbend. Then suck up all the solder. It's more time consuming, but if you want to save the PCB, this is a safe way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Tue, 14 May 2013, 00:18:14
    Bought the CM QFR with the custom plate, green switches, clear arrow keys, and a dark gray escape cap, as well as dimmer, green LEDs.   Is there an official mod thread for it? Also, I got some leftover 55g springs from a group buy! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 14 May 2013, 03:03:59
    Congrats. I loved my QFR.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 May 2013, 05:39:55
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Tue, 14 May 2013, 00:18:14
    Bought the CM QFR with the custom plate, green switches, clear arrow keys, and a dark gray escape cap, as well as dimmer, green LEDs.   Is there an official mod thread for it? Also, I got some leftover 55g springs from a group buy! :D

    There's a stickied thread on how to lube switches. But there'a no comprehensive single thread on modding. You'll have to dig through the Keyboards and Making Stuff Together subforums or just read a bunch of threads in general to learn.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 14 May 2013, 12:02:49
    Two questions today;
    How should I start practicing soldering?
    -and-
    Where can I get aluminum cases for filco that aren't way too expensive or poor quality like the vortex one... Custom anodizing would be nice too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 May 2013, 12:10:03
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 14 May 2013, 12:02:49
    Two questions today;
    How should I start practicing soldering?
    -and-
    Where can I get aluminum cases for filco that aren't way too expensive or poor quality like the vortex one... Custom anodizing would be nice too.

    1) Check out the Living Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) and WFD's YouTube videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/WhiteFireDragon). When you're ready to buy some stuff,  get an old VCR or some other older electronics and just start taking it apart. It's really pretty easy ^__^

    2) There are no other cases in the Vortex price range. Anodizing can be done at a local shop, independent of a vendor/seller here on GH.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:30:19
    Should I get a regular QFR instead of a stealth if I want to buy keycaps afterward?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:31:45
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:30:19
    Should I get a regular QFR instead of a stealth if I want to buy keycaps afterward?

    Probably depends on where you are located and if there is really any price difference. May depend more on what switch type you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:32:44
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:30:19
    Should I get a regular QFR instead of a stealth if I want to buy keycaps afterward?

    If you're not going to keep the stock caps, it seems silly to try and hunt down a Stealth. The regular QFRs seem quite easy to find.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:38:29
    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:16:00
    Maybe I am using this thread wayyyyy too much... but what exactly does the stickers in the switches do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:17:21
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:16:00
    Maybe I am using this thread wayyyyy too much... but what exactly does the stickers in the switches do?

    It's in the OP, but I'll quote again for you. :)

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:37:39
    Quote from: babyhands on Wed, 10 April 2013, 10:17:22
    Are we still doing simple questions simple answers? if so:
    What is this sticker mod i am seeing on some keyboards? Like putting stickers under the switches or something? What does this do? And what does lubing the spring do? It seems like lube on a spring would do nothing?

    The stickers go between the top and bottom halves off the switch housing. It reduces movement of the switch housing itself, which eliminates any "wobble" of the switch.

    Lubing the sliders of the stem makes the switches feel smoother, and reduces or eliminates any "grittiness" feel of the switches. Lubing the springs reduces or eliminates any squeaking sound coming from the spring movement inside the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:18:44
    Stickers are a lie. They're like flames on a red car :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:19:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:18:44
    Stickers are a lie. They're like flames on a red car :P

    Don't listen to this joker. Stickers make you type faster.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:20:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:18:44
    Stickers are a lie. They're like flames on a red car :P

    But Stickers look cool... :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:21:40
    Bro... I never thought to look at the OP again. There's all kinds of info there!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:23:18
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:21:40
    Bro... I never thought to look at the OP again. There's all kinds of info there!

    I've been trying to add/update commonly asked questions there :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:23:47
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:21:40
    Bro... I never thought to look at the OP again. There's all kinds of info there!

    I know right......who reads the OP anyway.

    I know some forums where the OP is on every page....wonder if we can do that here??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:32:53
    On another note! Ignore the dusty case... I still haven't gotten around to purchasing Novus, and I don't want to scratch this thing up like I did with my Das. But thank you so much, CPT! Now to take this thing apart once more...

    (http://i.imgur.com/XKRixOX.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:34:16
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:32:53
    On another note! Ignore the dusty case... I still haven't gotten around to purchasing Novus, and I don't want to scratch this thing up like I did with my Das. But thank you so much, CPT! Now to take this thing apart once more...

    Oooo. It's so purdy Moose! You're welcome! Thanks for always popping in to answer questions. Let me know if you need more Novus. I've got a big bottle sitting on my desk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:01:32
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:32:53
    On another note! Ignore the dusty case... I still haven't gotten around to purchasing Novus, and I don't want to scratch this thing up like I did with my Das. But thank you so much, CPT! Now to take this thing apart once more...

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/XKRixOX.jpg)


    moose why does your gasmask look crooked?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:36:41
    That's cuz Gas Mask is crooked. Duh! :P Also, I thought stickers made me 1337!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:39:42
    Do you guys make those nice, colorful USB cables. Or do you buy them from somewhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:02:03
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:39:42
    Do you guys make those nice, colorful USB cables. Or do you buy them from somewhere?

    Some people make them, some people buy them.  If you don't mind heatshrinked ends, making your own isn't too expensive, but if you want a nice USB mini B and USB male housing on the end, it's usually a little cheaper to have someone make it for you because of shipping costs for the materials you need.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:04:48
    Any specific kind of wire one would need? I have leftover cabling, nylon sleeving from a headphone project.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:10:15
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:04:48
    Any specific kind of wire one would need? I have leftover cabling, nylon sleeving from a headphone project.

    A donor USB cables with a USB plug that you could carefully pry open and reuse, a donor cable with a new plug(s), or a spool of USB cable and plugs for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:13:34
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:39:42
    Do you guys make those nice, colorful USB cables. Or do you buy them from somewhere?

    The one that moose posted was from mimic cables. You can find the stuff at mimic-cables.com and techkeys.com. Pexon Cables also does cables. Other makes include Paranoid and Whiskerbox. Or like nubbinator said, you could make your own.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:17:12
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:10:15
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:04:48
    Any specific kind of wire one would need? I have leftover cabling, nylon sleeving from a headphone project.

    A donor USB cables with a USB plug that you could carefully pry open and reuse, a donor cable with a new plug(s), or a spool of USB cable and plugs for it.

    Oh duh, I didn't even consider cutting open a ready-made cable.   :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 14 May 2013, 22:18:55
    Does anyone know what size screws the Poker/Pure case uses?

    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:17:12
    Oh duh, I didn't even consider cutting open a ready-made cable.   :-X

    If you go that route, there are two ways you can go.  You can carefully open up the USB A housing and take note of which wires line up with which lands, or you can cut the cable, slip the sleeving on, then slice the leads back together.  I prefer cutting away the rubber on the housing and opening the housing, then soldering to the lands.  It's harder, but makes for a nicer looking cable.  Just be very careful opening the cable or you'll need to buy a new housing.

    For mine, I'm using some donor cables with new housings since I didn't have the money to buy a big spool of USB cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 22:20:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:01:32
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:32:53
    On another note! Ignore the dusty case... I still haven't gotten around to purchasing Novus, and I don't want to scratch this thing up like I did with my Das. But thank you so much, CPT! Now to take this thing apart once more...

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/XKRixOX.jpg)


    moose why does your gasmask look crooked?



    Yeah, I don't know. That's just the way it is. They are hand made after all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 00:51:39
    Can anyone confirm the Part number for tactile greys?  I have come up with MX1A-D1NN
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 15 May 2013, 00:54:12
    That is correct. MX1A-D1NN is no diode, plate mount, tactile gray - http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Grey
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 01:02:55
    Excellent now i just need to find 2 of those
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 01:25:52
    Does anyone know where I can purchase just the connectors that plug into the motherboard for the front panel connections?  Looking for the ones for both LED's and the power and reset switches.

    Could also use a little assistance to find a good looking rocker switch in Momentary-Off-Momentary flavor.  Would prefer non-illuminated varieties, and an 8 pin panel mount connector male and female x2 for each.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 15 May 2013, 02:03:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 01:25:52
    Does anyone know where I can purchase just the connectors that plug into the motherboard for the front panel connections?  Looking for the ones for both LED's and the power and reset switches.

    Could also use a little assistance to find a good looking rocker switch in Momentary-Off-Momentary flavor.  Would prefer non-illuminated varieties, and an 8 pin panel mount connector male and female x2 for each.

    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19787/cab-1513/Power_Switch_Assembly_w_HDD_and_Power_LED_Motherboard_Internal_Header_Cable_-_50cm.html?tl=g2c36s269
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17760/cab-1057/Phobya_Front_Panel_Extension_Cable_Kit_-_300mm_87487.html?tl=g2c36s269#blank
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11095/ele-746/ModSmart_48mm_Switch_Wire_Harness_-_4_x_2-Pin_Power_Switch_and_LED_-_Wire-SWT-48.html?tl=g2c36s269#blank
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Wed, 15 May 2013, 10:20:03
    Getting a Realforce 87U soon, but don't know if I should get the 45g or the variable weights. I ask because I type a lot so the variable would be nice, but I also play a lot of games that utilize the wasd keys.

    Wondering if the variable would mess with the wasd keys' functionality for gaming. Also if anyone knows the weights in those keys, that'd be nice too. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 10:22:13
    Quote from: Folio on Wed, 15 May 2013, 10:20:03
    Getting a Realforce 87U soon, but don't know if I should get the 45g or the variable weights. I ask because I type a lot so the variable would be nice, but I also play a lot of games that utilize the wasd keys.

    Wondering if the variable would mess with the wasd keys' functionality for gaming. Also if anyone knows the weights in those keys, that'd be nice too. Thanks!

    You won't really find one answer to this question. It's all going to come down to personal preference. As I've said a million other times in this thread, you can play video games with the RealForce. Multiple professional StarCraft 2 players have competed with RealForces. If you want my opinion? I would not get a Topre board as your first board.

    Edit: The variable weights can be found in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40734.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:20:49
    Does anyone know what size screws the Poker/Pure case uses?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:26:19
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:20:49
    Does anyone know what size screws the Poker/Pure case uses?

    CPTBadAss, please put this info in the OP:

    Poker/Pure cases use M2-4mm (0.4mm pitch) machine screws to mount the PCB to the case. McMaster-Carr part # 92000A011
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:31:59
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:26:19
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:20:49
    Does anyone know what size screws the Poker/Pure case uses?

    CPTBadAss, please put this info in the OP:

    Poker/Pure cases use M2-4mm (0.4mm pitch) machine screws to mount the PCB to the case. McMaster-Carr part # 92000A011

    Done...however reluctantly :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:24:31
    My MX Black Filco TKL makes a "ping" noise on key release, my Choc Mini with MX Reds never did this. How can I prevent this noise? Both boards have O-rings already.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:27:22
    Quote from: dadgh on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:24:31
    My MX Black Filco TKL makes a "ping" noise on key release, my Choc Mini with MX Reds never did this. How can I prevent this noise? Both boards have O-rings already.

    lubing it might help.

    here is the thread for that... http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:28:34
    Quote from: dadgh on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:24:31
    My MX Black Filco TKL makes a "ping" noise on key release, my Choc Mini with MX Reds never did this. How can I prevent this noise? Both boards have O-rings already.

    More than likely because one is plate mount (filco) and the other is PCB mount
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:31:17
    Quote from: dadgh on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:24:31
    My MX Black Filco TKL makes a "ping" noise on key release, my Choc Mini with MX Reds never did this. How can I prevent this noise? Both boards have O-rings already.
    Claim that Diatech made a pingy keyboard and insert lots of "the ping is too damn high" memes. Worked well for my QFR.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:51:25
    >ping
    >dadgh

    Hmmm...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clakdale661 on Wed, 15 May 2013, 15:57:36
    Do springs from MX whites have the same force weight as mx clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:02:20
    I have question about HHKB. Is it possible to toggle function layer, without keeping "Fn" constantly held down? Say you want to use the arrows "indefinitely". Like what a Caps Lock key does.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:17:45
    Quote from: clakdale661 on Wed, 15 May 2013, 15:57:36
    Do springs from MX whites have the same force weight as mx clears?

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:34:51
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:17:45
    Quote from: clakdale661 on Wed, 15 May 2013, 15:57:36
    Do springs from MX whites have the same force weight as mx clears?

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX

    That's the actuation weight, not the weight of the spring.  Of course the original question could be asking either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:36:24
    I'd like to know MX white bottoming out force as well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:37:40
    Ok I know that I have seen it somewhere here, but I can't find the thread anymore.  Where is that thread that had the mod for MX switches into a Razer Nostromo.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:42:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:37:40
    Ok I know that I have seen it somewhere here, but I can't find the thread anymore.  Where is that thread that had the mod for MX switches into a Razer Nostromo.

    Melvang

    I found this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20578.30) but I'm not sure if I've seen the swap that you might be referring to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Wed, 15 May 2013, 17:34:49
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:51:25
    >ping
    >dadgh

    Hmmm...

    I don't get it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:04:12
    Quote from: dnix on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:02:20
    I have question about HHKB. Is it possible to toggle function layer, without keeping "Fn" constantly held down? Say you want to use the arrows "indefinitely". Like what a Caps Lock key does.

    I guess that's a "No"...   ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:05:26
    Quote from: dnix on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:04:12
    Quote from: dnix on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:02:20
    I have question about HHKB. Is it possible to toggle function layer, without keeping "Fn" constantly held down? Say you want to use the arrows "indefinitely". Like what a Caps Lock key does.

    I guess that's a "No"...   ^-^

    Have some patience. I'm sorry you didn't get your answer in under 5 minutes. I don't know off hand. I asked jdcarpe but he said he's not sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:28:02
    Didn't mean to be rude.
    I was guessing "no", and expected to get shot down fairly quick.   :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:38:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 01:25:52
    Does anyone know where I can purchase just the connectors that plug into the motherboard for the front panel connections?  Looking for the ones for both LED's and the power and reset switches.

    Could also use a little assistance to find a good looking rocker switch in Momentary-Off-Momentary flavor.  Would prefer non-illuminated varieties, and an 8 pin panel mount connector male and female x2 for each.

    Thrift stores and dumpster diving for case carcasses is worthwhile if you have not stripped these things out of your own obsolete cases.

    I keep a large ziplock bag around full of odd wires and connectors that I salvaged before throwing my old stuff into the garbage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 15 May 2013, 20:03:06
    Dumbass question.. Where can I find some good containers for lube within the UK? Preferrably wide and not tall. Must be resealable.

    Trust me I've tried googling but nothing good has come up. My google-fu is weak!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:06:08
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 15 May 2013, 20:03:06
    Dumbass question.. Where can I find some good containers for lube within the UK? Preferrably wide and not tall. Must be resealable.

    Trust me I've tried googling but nothing good has come up. My google-fu is weak!

    How about something like this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anagela-Kerry-Clear-Bottle-Borosilicate/dp/B00A9SZVO8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1368669558&sr=8-9&keywords=glass+vial), this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Revell-Glass-Jar-Lid-38300/dp/B004HPOP00/ref=sr_1_43?ie=UTF8&qid=1368669847&sr=8-43&keywords=glass+jar), or this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/PACK-120ml-AMBER-Essential-Aromatherapy/dp/B00BM6ARDQ/ref=sr_1_58?ie=UTF8&qid=1368669894&sr=8-58&keywords=glass+jar)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:10:29
    Anyone know where i can find pictures of thick imsto gray keys with green legends?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:12:06
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:06:08
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 15 May 2013, 20:03:06
    Dumbass question.. Where can I find some good containers for lube within the UK? Preferrably wide and not tall. Must be resealable.

    Trust me I've tried googling but nothing good has come up. My google-fu is weak!

    How about something like this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anagela-Kerry-Clear-Bottle-Borosilicate/dp/B00A9SZVO8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1368669558&sr=8-9&keywords=glass+vial), this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Revell-Glass-Jar-Lid-38300/dp/B004HPOP00/ref=sr_1_43?ie=UTF8&qid=1368669847&sr=8-43&keywords=glass+jar), or this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/PACK-120ml-AMBER-Essential-Aromatherapy/dp/B00BM6ARDQ/ref=sr_1_58?ie=UTF8&qid=1368669894&sr=8-58&keywords=glass+jar)?

    Would do the job but I'd prefer something cheaper and plastic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:12:35
    What should I use to clean the casing of a Model M? All the guides I found are about taking it apart and cleaning the insides and keys. I just want to wipe down the outside.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:22:16
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:38:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 01:25:52
    Does anyone know where I can purchase just the connectors that plug into the motherboard for the front panel connections?  Looking for the ones for both LED's and the power and reset switches.

    Could also use a little assistance to find a good looking rocker switch in Momentary-Off-Momentary flavor.  Would prefer non-illuminated varieties, and an 8 pin panel mount connector male and female x2 for each.

    Thrift stores and dumpster diving for case carcasses is worthwhile if you have not stripped these things out of your own obsolete cases.

    I keep a large ziplock bag around full of odd wires and connectors that I salvaged before throwing my old stuff into the garbage.

    This would work great but i have given away all my old cases to friends with stock dells or hp's that desperately needed better cooling.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:42:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:37:40
    Ok I know that I have seen it somewhere here, but I can't find the thread anymore.  Where is that thread that had the mod for MX switches into a Razer Nostromo.

    Melvang

    I found this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20578.30) but I'm not sure if I've seen the swap that you might be referring to.

    I found that one but i thought there was one that was just a swap from the rubber domes to MX switches without the complete rebuild.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:23:06
    Quote from: dnix on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:04:12
    Quote from: dnix on Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:02:20
    I have question about HHKB. Is it possible to toggle function layer, without keeping "Fn" constantly held down? Say you want to use the arrows "indefinitely". Like what a Caps Lock key does.

    I guess that's a "No"...   ^-^

    The consensus seems to be a no. I'm not sure if there is any FN toggles on any board.


    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:12:35
    What should I use to clean the casing of a Model M? All the guides I found are about taking it apart and cleaning the insides and keys. I just want to wipe down the outside.

    Water and soap and a washcloth. Or isopropyl alcohol. Or wet-naps.


    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:10:29
    Anyone know where i can find pictures of thick imsto gray keys with green legends?

    If you can get this page to load, I think its here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33416.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:34:55
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:06:08
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 15 May 2013, 20:03:06
    Dumbass question.. Where can I find some good containers for lube within the UK? Preferrably wide and not tall. Must be resealable.

    Trust me I've tried googling but nothing good has come up. My google-fu is weak!

    How about something like this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anagela-Kerry-Clear-Bottle-Borosilicate/dp/B00A9SZVO8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1368669558&sr=8-9&keywords=glass+vial), this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Revell-Glass-Jar-Lid-38300/dp/B004HPOP00/ref=sr_1_43?ie=UTF8&qid=1368669847&sr=8-43&keywords=glass+jar), or this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/PACK-120ml-AMBER-Essential-Aromatherapy/dp/B00BM6ARDQ/ref=sr_1_58?ie=UTF8&qid=1368669894&sr=8-58&keywords=glass+jar)?

    Ended up finding what I was looking for here! (http://www.naturallythinking.com/categories/Bottles-%26-Jars/Plastic-Jars/) Thanks anyway!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:58:29
    How would thick PBT caps affect backlit keyboard? Can anyone post a picture (if possible) of that to clarify the effect? Thanks!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:10:30
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:58:29
    How would thick PBT caps affect backlit keyboard? Can anyone post a picture (if possible) of that to clarify the effect? Thanks!!

    If someone else doesn't post a picture, I'll put a few caps on my Pure to show you what it'd look like tomorrow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:29:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:10:30
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:58:29
    How would thick PBT caps affect backlit keyboard? Can anyone post a picture (if possible) of that to clarify the effect? Thanks!!

    If someone else doesn't post a picture, I'll put a few caps on my Pure to show you what it'd look like tomorrow.
    I'd love to see this. Anyway, light shines through white, blue, and red Thick PBT a little bit, but not really through gray at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 May 2013, 07:19:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:23:06
    If you can get this page to load, I think its here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33416.0).

    Thanks captain.....I knew I had seen those somewhere my searchfu was week last night....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Fri, 17 May 2013, 01:48:10
    How come the "4grabs" thread is number 28 on the list when you search "4grabs"??

     :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 17 May 2013, 07:03:52
    Quote from: lazerpointer on Fri, 17 May 2013, 01:48:10
    How come the "4grabs" thread is number 28 on the list when you search "4grabs"??

     :))

    Forum search is weak. Your forum style is no match for my Google-fu.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=4grabs+site%3Ageekhack.org

    Code: [Select]
    4grabs site:geekhack.org
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 May 2013, 07:08:44
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:29:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:10:30
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:58:29
    How would thick PBT caps affect backlit keyboard? Can anyone post a picture (if possible) of that to clarify the effect? Thanks!!

    If someone else doesn't post a picture, I'll put a few caps on my Pure to show you what it'd look like tomorrow.
    I'd love to see this. Anyway, light shines through white, blue, and red Thick PBT a little bit, but not really through gray at all.

    I got side tracked last night. Someone remind me to post a picture today!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 07:16:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 May 2013, 07:08:44
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:29:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:10:30
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:58:29
    How would thick PBT caps affect backlit keyboard? Can anyone post a picture (if possible) of that to clarify the effect? Thanks!!

    If someone else doesn't post a picture, I'll put a few caps on my Pure to show you what it'd look like tomorrow.
    I'd love to see this. Anyway, light shines through white, blue, and red Thick PBT a little bit, but not really through gray at all.

    I got side tracked last night. Someone remind me to post a picture today!

    lol post a picture today :)

    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 17 May 2013, 08:13:14
    Very funny, Jocelyn.

    By the way, CPT, don't forget to post a picture today.

    ROFL!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 17 May 2013, 08:13:14
    Very funny, Jocelyn.

    By the way, CPT, don't forget to post a picture today.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Fri, 17 May 2013, 21:19:23
    Reminding CPT to post picture!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 17 May 2013, 21:19:59
    Bumping for CPT's picture
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 17 May 2013, 21:21:59
    Post a pic badass.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 May 2013, 21:27:21
    From left to right (Escape to 3): Cherry doubleshot thick ABS, SP Thin ABS, Imsto thick PBT Cherry replica, Vortex thin PBT
    Keyboard is a Vortex Pure with purple LEDs

    (http://i.imgur.com/IQm6Ox9.jpg)
    Backlight turned off, some lighting in the room

    (http://i.imgur.com/FbRQNFe.jpg)
    Backlight on brightest setting, some lighting in the room

    (http://i.imgur.com/PrSkXO7.jpg)
    Backlight on brightest setting, no lighting in the room
    Sorry for the delay
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 17 May 2013, 21:30:09
    Dem Pics
    (http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1279082592656.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 21:30:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 May 2013, 21:27:21
    From left to right (Escape to 3): Cherry doubleshot thick ABS, SP Thin ABS, Imsto thick PBT Cherry replica, Vortex thin PBT
    Keyboard is a Vortex Pure with magenta LEDs

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/IQm6Ox9.jpg)

    Backlight turned off, some lighting in the room

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/FbRQNFe.jpg)

    Backlight on brightest setting, some lighting in the room

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/PrSkXO7.jpg)

    Backlight on brightest seeting, no lighting in the room
    Sorry for the delay

    FTFY :)

    I'll post some photos of white, blue, gray, and red thick PBT on a Pure with green LED tomorrow.

    Edit - Here's one with Thick red PBT and keep in mind the Poker LEDs are not as bright as those of the Pure.

    (http://imageshack.us/a/img855/4186/redib.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Fri, 17 May 2013, 21:38:01
    Thanks for pictures!!!

    I am thinking of the PBT group buy and how will it fit my QF TK or future keyboard (will keep looking at CM storm's boards if they release a backlit or fullsize green)... If possible, how does the light from QF TK compare to those of Pure and Poker?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:15:09
    Quote from: linziyi on Fri, 17 May 2013, 21:38:01
    Thanks for pictures!!!

    I am thinking of the PBT group buy and how will it fit my QF TK or future keyboard (will keep looking at CM storm's boards if they release a backlit or fullsize green)... If possible, how does the light from QF TK compare to those of Pure and Poker?
    I'm really not sure about how they'll fit with a QF TK, but it looks like you'll have problems with almost the entire bottom row. Also, no idea about the LEDs on the QF TK vs. the Pure. The Pure LEDs definitely get much brighter than those on the Poker.

    Anyway, Nezumi let me borrow her Pure, so here's a meh photo of Imsto blue, red, gray, and white with green LEDs.

    Lights on

    (http://imageshack.us/a/img811/931/purez.jpg)

    Lights off

    (http://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:16:59
    Thanks Sisbot! For the reminder :P and extra pics
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 18 May 2013, 00:15:17
    I got my Raindrop set today and immediately put it on my Poker. I decided to take the white spacebar off to see what the blue spacebar looked like instead. I used the same method I always had to remove the spacebar; pulling both alt keys and gently wiggling it it out with my fingers, but the stem holes on the spacebar were so tight that I popped the stabilizers off the board. I was able to get them back on easily, but I know I'll be putting this set on my Filco eventually and I'd like to know how I could avoid removing the stabilizers again if possible. Anyone have a better method?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clockwork on Sat, 18 May 2013, 03:15:03
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:15:09
    Lights off

    Show Image
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg)

    Can someone do a similar picture on a Ducky Shine 2 or other keyboard with reversed switches (LEDs at the top)? I'm wondering if putting the LED right under the keycap legend makes it readable in the dark, or if the printing just doesn't have enough contrast when backlit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 03:55:17
    Which one for a gaming keyboard? Red or brown?

    Maybe tactile bump is actually better for games?  :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 18 May 2013, 03:55:51
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 03:55:17
    Which one for a gaming keyboard? Red or brown?

    Maybe tactile bump is actually better for games?  :-X
    All preference. There simply isn't an answer to that question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 04:14:25
    I don't want blues or blacks.
    I like the red.
    The brown is close enough to red, I could do either.

    I know it's subjective. But I wouldn't mind an "opinion" of whether "most" people "might" prefer the bump for gaming.  ;)


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:13:49
    I play video games on Blues and Whites. Last night I played BorderLands 2 with an SSK. I personally don't find that there's such a thing as a switch that is better suited for gaming. Which is why I keep saying it's subjective and am hesitant to answer.

    That being said, many heavy FPS players have said that Blacks and Reds are nice to use when playing FPS because the bumps and clicks in Tactile and Clicky switches messes with doubletapping. Since I typically play things like ARPGs, retro video games, and RTS, I can't verify this. I know I said I played BL2 but I don't really consider that competitive or hardcore FPS.

    If you think the tactile bump would be nice for gaming, maybe it will work for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:19:38
    Blacks are the best.

    Halverson has spoken.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:20:31
    ALL HAIL GIRLSHARK. BRINGER OF THE KNOWLEDGE....and fins. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:24:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:20:31
    ALL HAIL GIRLSHARK. BRINGER OF THE KNOWLEDGE....and fins. :P

    Hehe. I lied though....one with rubber domes, it's the way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:54:11
    Blue click bugs me. Black seems a bit heavy.
    TBH, this is only based on my wasd sampler kit. I'll give Black the benefit of the doubt, but that click...

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:13:49
    I play video games on Blues and Whites. [...]

    That being said, many heavy FPS players have said that Blacks and Reds are nice to use when playing FPS because the bumps and clicks in Tactile and Clicky switches messes with doubletapping.

    My games are mostly FPS. I could choose to run with this, or meet you "halfway" with Brown.   :confused:
    Probably I'll run with it, get some nice O-rings.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:56:54
    Quote from: Halverson on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:19:38
    Blacks are the best.

    Halverson has spoken.

    So whats with all these customs with lubed and stickered blacks? Do most people who get customs play games then??

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:59:12
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:54:11
    My games are mostly FPS. I could choose to run with this, or meet you "halfway" with Brown.   :confused:
    Probably I'll run with it, get some nice O-rings.

    Like I said before, there's no need to meet me at all. You play on what what's most comfortable for you. I personally hate Browns and Reds so I won't be playing games on them ever. And o-rings cause the bottom out and actuation to change so it might not improve your gameplay experience.

    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:56:54
    Quote from: Halverson on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:19:38
    Blacks are the best.

    Halverson has spoken.

    So whats with all these customs with lubed and stickered blacks? Do most people who get customs play games then??


    This is called a joke :P. And again, it's personal preference. Blacks feel nice and I'm sure lubing them feels amazing. My custom will have Greens or Clears.

    /me shrugs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:00:51
    Hmm the more I play with the black switch, the less heavy it feels...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:03:20
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:00:51
    Hmm the more I play with the black switch, the less heavy it feels...

    If you live near a MicroCenter, I recommend you trying out a full board with Blacks on it. A switch is a nice start but you won't really know until you try a full board. ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:07:12
    your fingers will acclimatize to most switches, if you give it a chance.

    that said, switch preference questions can't be answered by another person, just go with your gut feeling. Or, do what most people who come to GH end up doing eventually - get one of each. If you have everything and end up sticking to one board predominantly, you'd know that's the board for you.

    alternatively, pray to the shark god for an answer.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:09:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:59:12

    So whats with all these customs with lubed and stickered blacks? Do most people who get customs play games then??



    This is called a joke :p . And again, it's personal preference. Blacks feel nice and I'm sure lubing them feels amazing. My custom will have Greens or Clears.

    /me shrugs



    No I really was just asking seriously :p

    I've seen quite a few kmacs and other customs and quite a few have lubed and stickered blacks, I was just curious if there was a reason. :o

    I've got a board with vintage blacks and I'm probably going to use it as a guinea pig when I jump off into soldering, modding etc. I'm considering turning it into a switch test board.  8)

    But I'm still really liking these clears on my ducky, but now after using it for a little while I'm wishing I still had a few of the other boards I had before around just to try to compare side by side  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:09:12
    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:07:12
    your fingers will acclimatize to most switches, if you give it a chance.

    that said, switch preference questions can't be answered by another person, just go with your gut feeling. Or, do what most people who come to GH end up doing eventually - get one of each. If you have everything and end up sticking to one board predominantly, you'd know that's the board for you.

    alternatively, pray to the shark god for an answer.

    lol all of this^

    PS - I ALWAYS love your posts Larken :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:17:55
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:09:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 06:59:12

    So whats with all these customs with lubed and stickered blacks? Do most people who get customs play games then??

    This is called a joke :p . And again, it's personal preference. Blacks feel nice and I'm sure lubing them feels amazing. My custom will have Greens or Clears.

    /me shrugs

    No I really was just asking seriously :p

    I've seen quite a few kmacs and other customs and quite a few have lubed and stickered blacks, I was just curious if there was a reason. :o

    I've got a board with vintage blacks and I'm probably going to use it as a guinea pig when I jump off into soldering, modding etc. I'm considering turning it into a switch test board.  8)

    But I'm still really liking these clears on my ducky, but now after using it for a little while I'm wishing I still had a few of the other boards I had before around just to try to compare side by side  ;D

    I'm honestly not sure why they're so popular but maybe they're just awesome. I've never tried lubed Blacks myself. Maybe Blacks are the new Greens?

    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:09:12
    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:07:12
    your fingers will acclimatize to most switches, if you give it a chance.

    that said, switch preference questions can't be answered by another person, just go with your gut feeling. Or, do what most people who come to GH end up doing eventually - get one of each. If you have everything and end up sticking to one board predominantly, you'd know that's the board for you.

    alternatively, pray to the shark god for an answer.

    lol all of this^

    PS - I ALWAYS love your posts Larken :)

    I laughed but there's only issue with this statement. Asking the GirlShark for guidance should always be option one :P

    Quote from: clockwork on Sat, 18 May 2013, 03:15:03
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:15:09
    Lights off

    Show Image
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg)

    Can someone do a similar picture on a Ducky Shine 2 or other keyboard with reversed switches (LEDs at the top)? I'm wondering if putting the LED right under the keycap legend makes it readable in the dark, or if the printing just doesn't have enough contrast when backlit.

    I don't have a Ducky but I think if I flip the caps upside down I can get the same effect. I don't think it will be that visible. But we'll try it later unless someone beats me to it first.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:22:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:03:20
    If you live near a MicroCenter, I recommend you trying out a full board with Blacks on it. A switch is a nice start but you won't really know until you try a full board. ^__^

    I don't have anything cool like that near me.  :rolleyes:

    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:07:12
    alternatively, pray to the shark god for an answer.

    Okay how's this?

    Our shark, who art in geekhack,
    hallowed be thy fin.
    Thy Keyboard come,
    thy will be done,
    on earth as it is in the sea
    Give us this day our daily keyboards.
    And forgive us our money spending,
    as we forgive those who use rubberdomes.
    Yadda yadda...

    Then I ask about the switches and stuff?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:23:06
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:09:12
    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:07:12
    your fingers will acclimatize to most switches, if you give it a chance.

    that said, switch preference questions can't be answered by another person, just go with your gut feeling. Or, do what most people who come to GH end up doing eventually - get one of each. If you have everything and end up sticking to one board predominantly, you'd know that's the board for you.

    alternatively, pray to the shark god for an answer.

    lol all of this^

    PS - I ALWAYS love your posts Larken :)

    always glad to amuse you, Jocelyn :D

    but seriously, if anyone told me that I should get one of everything a year or two ago, I'd think that they were crazy I would never do it *dejectedly stares at the cupboard I keep my boards in*. At least I haven't gone over to the other side yet. The other side meaning topre heaven (or is that topre hell? :-\)

    It's different now. Now that I have seen the truth - ---- - *cue dramatic pause* don don don.



    I realized that I'd already became one of the crazies. I finally found my one true board and switch. True story.

    p.s. I thought leaving the striked-out parts would be more entertaining. And also true.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:26:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:17:55
    Quote from: clockwork on Sat, 18 May 2013, 03:15:03
    Show Image
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:15:09
    Lights off

    (https://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg)
    Can someone do a similar picture on a Ducky Shine 2 or other keyboard with reversed switches (LEDs at the top)? I'm wondering if putting the LED right under the keycap legend makes it readable in the dark, or if the printing just doesn't have enough contrast when backlit.

    I don't have a Ducky but I think if I flip the caps upside down I can get the same effect. I don't think it will be that visible. But we'll try it later unless someone beats me to it first.

    If he is just wanting a picture of the ducky shine II lit up in the dark I'm sure I can do that....but not until the boss leaves :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:35:05
    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:23:06
    At least I haven't gone over to the other side yet. The other side meaning topre heaven (or is that topre hell? :-\)

    Currently typing on my first Topre. I'm not as blown away, as I expected to be.  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:37:46
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:35:05
    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:23:06
    At least I haven't gone over to the other side yet. The other side meaning topre heaven (or is that topre hell? :-\)

    Currently typing on my first Topre. I'm not as blown away, as I expected to be.  :-[

    I will try a topre (toe-prah) board one day but am afraid I won't like it.

    What don't you like about it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:37:57
    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:23:06
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:09:12
    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:07:12
    your fingers will acclimatize to most switches, if you give it a chance.

    that said, switch preference questions can't be answered by another person, just go with your gut feeling. Or, do what most people who come to GH end up doing eventually - get one of each. If you have everything and end up sticking to one board predominantly, you'd know that's the board for you.

    alternatively, pray to the shark god for an answer.

    lol all of this^

    PS - I ALWAYS love your posts Larken :)

    always glad to amuse you, Jocelyn :D

    but seriously, if anyone told me that I should get one of everything a year or two ago, I'd think that they were crazy I would never do it *dejectedly stares at the cupboard I keep my boards in*. At least I haven't gone over to the other side yet. The other side meaning topre heaven (or is that topre hell? :-\)

    It's different now. Now that I have seen the truth - ---- - *cue dramatic pause* don don don.



    I realized that I'd already became one of the crazies. I finally found my one true board and switch. True story.

    p.s. I thought leaving the striked-out parts would be more entertaining. And also true.

    I can definitely appreciate the strike-through :)

    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:35:05
    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:23:06
    At least I haven't gone over to the other side yet. The other side meaning topre heaven (or is that topre hell? :-\)

    Currently typing on my first Topre. I'm not as blown away, as I expected to be.  :-[

    Which board? Give us details; maybe I'll want to buy it :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:39:48
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:37:57
    Which board? Give us details; maybe I'll want to buy it :)

    Maybe we should all pitch in and buy a topre board and do a tour then either auction it/sell it or if someone from the tour wants it they can settle up with everyone.  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:41:46
    How come this thread isn't stickied yet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:45:22
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:39:48
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:37:57
    Which board? Give us details; maybe I'll want to buy it :)

    Maybe we should all pitch in and buy a topre board and do a tour then either auction it/sell it or if someone from the tour wants it they can settle up with everyone.  ;D

    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote from: metalliqaz on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:41:46
    How come this thread isn't stickied yet?

    This^ It should be stickied in every appropriate forum too imo  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:48:35
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:37:46
    I will try a topre (toe-prah) board one day but am afraid I won't like it.

    What don't you like about it?

    It's a little mushy, I dunno. Maybe I need to give it time.

    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:37:57
    Which board? Give us details; maybe I'll want to buy it :)

    HHKB, I got a decent deal. I'm gonna try it for a couple weeks. Supposedly these have a break-in period?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:52:04
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:41:46
    How come this thread isn't stickied yet?

    And it should be on the required reading list for noobs.

    Maybe captain should just offer a noob class once a week that all noobs have to go through.....keyboard boot camp if you will :p


    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:45:22
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:39:48
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:37:57
    Which board? Give us details; maybe I'll want to buy it :)

    Maybe we should all pitch in and buy a topre board and do a tour then either auction it/sell it or if someone from the tour wants it they can settle up with everyone.  ;D

    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    Like the new Leopold FC660C I could have purchased it for ~$200 from EK and if we split that with 10 people thats $20 plus shipping it around the country,  I guess I could buy one and rent it to people for $20 + shipping a week to see if they like it  :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:54:57
    crap...double post  :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:03:52
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:48:35

    It's a little mushy, I dunno. Maybe I need to give it time.


    I heard a few topre owners say the exact same thing about the mushiness (and how it somehow feels like a rubber-dome, except its' more subtle - which explains the underwhelmed response). But they all ended up loving their topres after 2-3 weeks and never came back to cherry mx.

    A HHKB's a really nice board, enjoy it :)

    Qn: I'm not familiar with topres at all. Does it actually require a break in period for the keyboard? Or is it the user of the keyboard that gets broken in? (Serious question. Even if it sounds like a joke).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:17:36
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:41:46
    How come this thread isn't stickied yet?

    I'm not sure but I'm flattered/excited that you think that it should be. I really love what this has become. ^__^

    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:39:48
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:37:57
    Which board? Give us details; maybe I'll want to buy it :)

    Maybe we should all pitch in and buy a topre board and do a tour then either auction it/sell it or if someone from the tour wants it they can settle up with everyone.  ;D

    I'm doing a tour that includes a 55g Topre keychain (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) soon. I know it's not a full board but I think it's a good start. That being said, a Topre board tour would be pretty cool. Maybe you should get an IC together ray4jc?

    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:26:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:17:55
    Quote from: clockwork on Sat, 18 May 2013, 03:15:03
    Show Image
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:15:09
    Lights off

    (https://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg)
    Can someone do a similar picture on a Ducky Shine 2 or other keyboard with reversed switches (LEDs at the top)? I'm wondering if putting the LED right under the keycap legend makes it readable in the dark, or if the printing just doesn't have enough contrast when backlit.

    I don't have a Ducky but I think if I flip the caps upside down I can get the same effect. I don't think it will be that visible. But we'll try it later unless someone beats me to it first.

    If he is just wanting a picture of the ducky shine II lit up in the dark I'm sure I can do that....but not until the boss leaves :p

    Yes please!!


    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:22:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:03:20
    If you live near a MicroCenter, I recommend you trying out a full board with Blacks on it. A switch is a nice start but you won't really know until you try a full board. ^__^

    I don't have anything cool like that near me.  :rolleyes:

    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:07:12
    alternatively, pray to the shark god for an answer.

    Okay how's this?

    Our shark, who art in geekhack,
    hallowed be thy fin.
    Thy Keyboard come,
    thy will be done,
    on earth as it is in the sea
    Give us this day our daily keyboards.
    And forgive us our money spending,
    as we forgive those who use rubberdomes.
    Yadda yadda...

    Then I ask about the switches and stuff?

    How you communicate with the GirlShark is between you, the GirlShark, and SharkPope. That being said, that was lovely rofl. Visit it's Church (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42336.0) and marvel in it's glory.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:22:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:17:36
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:39:48
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:37:57
    Which board? Give us details; maybe I'll want to buy it :)

    Maybe we should all pitch in and buy a topre board and do a tour then either auction it/sell it or if someone from the tour wants it they can settle up with everyone.  ;D

    I'm doing a tour that includes a 55g Topre keychain (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) soon. I know it's not a full board but I think it's a good start. That being said, a Topre board tour would be pretty cool. Maybe you should get an IC together ray4jc?

    I dunno I've only been here for like 7 weeks don't know if I have enough 'fame' to qualify for posting an IC  ???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:23:37
    So make your bones on this tour? ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:40:58
    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:03:52
    I heard a few topre owners say the exact same thing about the mushiness (and how it somehow feels like a rubber-dome, except its' more subtle - which explains the underwhelmed response). But they all ended up loving their topres after 2-3 weeks and never came back to cherry mx.

    I will probably still use cherry regardless, for gaming. I like LED's for playing in the dark.

    Quote from: Larken on Sat, 18 May 2013, 08:03:52
    Qn: I'm not familiar with topres at all. Does it actually require a break in period for the keyboard? Or is it the user of the keyboard that gets broken in? (Serious question. Even if it sounds like a joke).

    Not a bad question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:23:12
    Is the HPE87 plate mounted or PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:23:31
    Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:23:12
    Is the HPE87 plate mounted or PCB?

    Plate. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:31:50
    Thanks, jd.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 11:42:00
    Jd slow down! Everyone's gonna think we can answer questions in 18 seconds :P. Or maybe we just need to mind meld...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hyde on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:17:34
    Do you guys always clean out the flux residue from the PCB after soldering?  If so what do you guys use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:24:34
    Quote from: Hyde on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:17:34
    Do you guys always clean out the flux residue from the PCB after soldering?  If so what do you guys use?

    I don't, but I don't use separate flux, just rosin core solder. If you do need to clean it, use 90%+ isopropyl alcohol and Kimwipes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:28:36
    Quote from: Hyde on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:17:34
    Do you guys always clean out the flux residue from the PCB after soldering?  If so what do you guys use?

    I also don't wipe after soldering. Typically I just leave it on. I'm not picky as long as it works ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 20:05:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:03:20
    How you communicate with the GirlShark is between you, the GirlShark, and SharkPope. That being said, that was lovely rofl. Visit it's Church (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42336.0) and marvel in it's glory.

    Who is SharkPope??  :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 20:14:44
    Read the great book of Halverson (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42336.msg887530#msg887530), neophyte, and you will reach enlightenment...or just a wet fin ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 20:39:23
    I didn't know this became Simple Questions, Simple Falsities.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 18 May 2013, 20:41:19
    Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 20:39:23
    I didn't know this became Simple Questions, Simple Falsities.

    ^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 20:43:13
    Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 20:39:23
    I didn't know this became Simple Questions, Simple Falsities.

    There cannot be light without the dark. We need you just as bad as we need the GirlShark, Anti-WizBro. Don't take it personally. <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Sat, 18 May 2013, 21:11:10
    In the market for a soldering station, which I want to continue to build on...

    My question is are 2in1's or 4in1's any good? I know in other hobbies the combined pieces are looked down upon. I just wanted to know if they were any good? Get everything at one shot or should I part it out?
    I also understand personal preference just didn't know if I should steer clear of the multi-systems. I'm currently looking at this one:

    http://www.amazon.com/X-TRONIC-9020-XTS-SOLDERING-STATION-EXTRACTOR/dp/B00A2VQA24/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1368928624&sr=8-8&keywords=hot+air+soldering+station (http://www.amazon.com/X-TRONIC-9020-XTS-SOLDERING-STATION-EXTRACTOR/dp/B00A2VQA24/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1368928624&sr=8-8&keywords=hot+air+soldering+station)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 21:30:08
    Have you looked at the Living Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) at all? Might give you some suggestions on what you might like in addition to the 2-in-1s and 4-in-1s. I don't have an expereince with the multi-stations. I use just a soldering iron, braid, and a sponge for wiping. Nothing too fancy here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Sat, 18 May 2013, 21:37:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 21:30:08
    Have you looked at the Living Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) at all? Might give you some suggestions on what you might like in addition to the 2-in-1s and 4-in-1s. I don't have an expereince with the multi-stations. I use just a soldering iron, braid, and a sponge for wiping. Nothing too fancy here.

    Thank you, will check it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 21:58:24
    Quote from: eRadicatedZomBiE on Sat, 18 May 2013, 21:37:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 21:30:08
    Have you looked at the Living Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) at all? Might give you some suggestions on what you might like in addition to the 2-in-1s and 4-in-1s. I don't have an expereince with the multi-stations. I use just a soldering iron, braid, and a sponge for wiping. Nothing too fancy here.

    Thank you, will check it out.

    Also check out WhiteFireDragon's YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/WhiteFireDragon) where he shows how the soldering process might look when you're modding your board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:21:10
    1. Are fully lubricated MX Blacks "easier" to type on?  In other words, is friction a factor to their stiffness or only the spring stiffness itself? (practically-speaking)

    2. Do o-rings, maybe even thicker ones, help make MX Blacks easier on fingers by preventive excessive downward motion?

    3. Are MX Blacks completely identical to Reds with the exception of plastic color and included springs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:26:48
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:21:10
    1. Are fully lubricated MX Blacks "easier" to type on?  In other words, is friction a factor to their stiffness or only the spring stiffness itself? (practically-speaking)

    2. Do o-rings, maybe even thicker ones, help make MX Blacks easier on fingers by preventive excessive downward motion?

    1) I think they just make the whole acutation feel smoother. Iirc from the MMB Lube Guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0), you can lube both the points in the stem that cause friction as well as the spring, which is spring stiffness like you said. I'm not sure what you mean by the term "practically speaking".

    2) O-rings do not make any switch easier to press down on or actuate. They reduce the travel distance and can change the bottom out. But the actuation force will be the same with or without the o-rings.

    3) Yup!

    And thanks for the link to WFD's video on lubing Sisbot. That man's YouTube channel is amazing :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:30:11
    I  have no idea on the o-ring question, but I'd use the video by WFD below for lubing
    Also, black stems are identical to reds :)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:32:55
    1) Of course lubed blacks will require less force than non-lubed, but even if you lubed them perfectly the actuation force will never be close to brown or red/blue switches.

    2) If you mean excessive motion rather than excessive force, then yes, the O-rings will reduce motion due to reduced travel distance. The bottom out may also result in some minor rebound since they are basically rubber.

    3) Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:36:31
    Is there an LED version of Poker 2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:38:35
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:36:31
    Is there an LED version of Poker 2?
    Yes but it has not been released yet. Release date TBA, but definitely exists.

    See the PDF manual in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42554.msg858488#msg858488).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:38:42
    Thanks!

    By "practically speaking", I meant that most of the effort to actuate the probably comes from compressing the spring--not so much from the switch friction, as there's no tactile resistance--no bumps to overcome.

    Also I didn't say o-rings would make actuation easier to reach--that would not change.  I did say "motion" in that exact term :) My question was about the overall effect of typing on stiff linear switches where actuation takes guesswork, and one might push down farther than necessary, exerting even more force.  O-rings, and particularly thicker ones, could decrease unnecessary travel distance past actuation and take out some of the guesswork, perhaps alleviating extra finger stress.  Just guessing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:43:33
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:36:31
    Is there an LED version of Poker 2?

    If you're asking if the Poker 2 is fully backlit, it looks like it. Check out the second picture in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42523.0).


    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:38:42
    Thanks!

    By "practically speaking", I meant that most of the effort to actuate the probably comes from compressing the spring--not so much from the switch friction, as there's no tactile resistance--no bumps to overcome.

    Also I didn't say o-rings would make actuation easier to reach--that would not change.  I did say motion in that exact term :) My question was about the overall effect of typing on stiff linear switches where actuation takes guesswork, and one might push down farther than necessary, exerting even more force.  O-rings, and particularly thicker ones, could decrease unnecessary travel distance past actuation and take out some of the guesswork, perhaps alleviating extra finger stress.  Just guessing.

    Gotcha. Well I think that the actuation point is pretty easy to find in Reds and Blacks. It seems to be in the middle like the other MX switches. At least it felt like it when I tried then at Microcenter. I know you can learn to not bottom out on Reds and Blacks but I don't actually own a board that has either of these switches. Also, I'm super tired so I apologize for nit-picking grammar and terms ^__^.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:44:49
    Not bottoming out on Reds is absurd. It takes a lot of effort to do. They're so light, and combined with them being linear, fuhgedaboutit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:45:38
    Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:44:49
    Not bottoming out on Reds is absurd. It takes a lot of effort to do. They're so light, and combined with them being linear, fuhgedaboutit.

    (http://blogs.name.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/objection.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:45:47
    Agreed, I hate my Reds for that reason.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:46:09
    Maybe it's those little girly fingers. I should get some of those.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:51:29
    I recently removed my 40A-R o-rings from my poker after having them on for a month. You are correct in that I am using more energy to type because of the increased travel.

    So why did I remove them?

    The short travel keys were too reminiscent of rubber domes. Over time I began to miss the solid sound and feel of each keypress. The sensation of the MX Switch was lessened in every way by the o-rings. The biggest factor was travel.

    When I had the o-rings on, I left my number row untouched [just to see which I would prefer over time] and I found myself often looking forward to hitting those keys. They used more energy, and they decreased my typing speed by a small margin but I found out over time that these trade-offs were well worth it for the feeling of a long-travel typing experience.

    When you remove the o-rings it's kind of like typing with an extra layer of air beneath your keys. It may slow you down and it may cause typing to be excessively tiring over long stretches, but just being able to experience the deeper dimensions of each individual keypress gives me some kind of satisfaction.

    Just one guy's opinion, of course people have had wildly different experiences with o-rings. Personal preference really.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:51:59
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:38:35
    Yes but it has not been released yet. Release date TBA, but definitely exists.
    See the PDF manual in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42554.msg858488#msg858488).

    Thanks brah.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:43:33
    If you're asking if the Poker 2 is fully backlit, it looks like it. Check out the second picture in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42523.0).

    More like: will I be able to get one, with actual lit characters?
    Like the Pure with ABS keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:53:53
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:51:59
    More like: will I be able to get one, with actual lit characters?
    Like the Pure with ABS keycaps.

    It's my honest opinion that it's highly likely.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:54:22
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:51:59
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:38:35
    Yes but it has not been released yet. Release date TBA, but definitely exists.
    See the PDF manual in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42554.msg858488#msg858488).

    Thanks brah.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:43:33
    If you're asking if the Poker 2 is fully backlit, it looks like it. Check out the second picture in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42523.0).

    More like: will I be able to get one, with actual lit characters?
    Like the Pure with ABS keycaps.

    I believe they come both ways, though LEDs can be added to the one that doesn't come with them. Anyway, I'm fairly sure only the non LED flavor has been released, while the LED flavor will be released soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:56:05
    I am pretty sure the Poker 2 will come in both backlit and non-backlit variations, since ShakeR from mechanicalkeyboards.com has verified that his Poker 2's coming in are PBT with no backlight. So far I haven't heard any word from any vendor about stocking the backlight version. But when it comes, I will definitely be in line for it.

    Edit: XD Jocelyn beat me to the punch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:58:26
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:51:59

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:43:33
    If you're asking if the Poker 2 is fully backlit, it looks like it. Check out the second picture in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42523.0).

    More like: will I be able to get one, with actual lit characters?
    Like the Pure with ABS keycaps.

    The 4th picture in that thread looks like the bottom of my Pure caps where the legends are lit. That being said, a quick glance through that thread didn't reveal anymore details. I'm unsure. According to this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43246.0), TechKeys will be carrying the Poker 2s soon. Maybe you could ask i3oilermaker or maybe he'll pop in here.

    Also it appears Jocelyn and Lastpilot beat me to the punch but I'll post anyways to keep my post count up :P

    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:51:29
    Just one guy's opinion, of course people have had wildly different experiences with o-rings. Personal preference really.

    I felt the same way: o-rings reduced the travel too much for my tastes. But I currently have soft-landing pads on my FC700R and I really like it.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:00:03
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:51:29
    I recently removed my 40A-R o-rings from my poker after having them on for a month. You are correct in that I am using more energy to type because of the increased travel.

    So why did I remove them?

    The short travel keys were too reminiscent of rubber domes. Over time I began to miss the solid sound and feel of each keypress. The sensation of the MX Switch was lessened in every way by the o-rings. The biggest factor was travel.

    When I had the o-rings on, I left my number row untouched [just to see which I would prefer over time] and I found myself often looking forward to hitting those keys. They used more energy, and they decreased my typing speed by a small margin but I found out over time that these trade-offs were well worth it for the feeling of a long-travel typing experience.

    When you remove the o-rings it's kind of like typing with an extra layer of air beneath your keys. It may slow you down and it may cause typing to be excessively tiring over long stretches, but just being able to experience the deeper dimensions of each individual keypress gives me some kind of satisfaction.

    Hm, I didn't really experience this with my OEM caps on MX Browns with 50A o-rings from Amazon / McMaster-Carr.  There was a very slight augmentation in feel, but mostly just in sound.  I've got 2 types of silicone o-rings on the way from IMSTO, so maybe I'll experience a stronger augmentation in key travel with them--to be seen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:01:37
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:56:05
    I am pretty sure the Poker 2 will come in both backlit and non-backlit variations [...]

    Do you game on your Poker, Lastpilot? If so, how do you feel about missing the function row? No big deal?

    Question for anybody too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:03:29
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:01:37
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:56:05
    I am pretty sure the Poker 2 will come in both backlit and non-backlit variations [...]

    Do you game on your Poker, Lastpilot? If so, how do you feel about missing the function row? No big deal?

    Question for anybody too.

    I couldn't play SC2 on a 60% board since I use the function keys as location bindings. But I've been playing Borderlands 2 on a Pure and it's been fine. I don't miss the function keys at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:05:06
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:01:37
    Do you game on your Poker, Lastpilot? If so, how do you feel about missing the function row? No big deal?

    Question for anybody too.

    No need for function row;I don't even use the number row, too far lol. I use qerfzxcv and my side mouse buttons are ctrl/shift giving me 24 combinations.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:07:23
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:01:37

    Do you game on your Poker, Lastpilot? If so, how do you feel about missing the function row? No big deal?

    Question for anybody too.
    Yes, I do game on my Poker. Most of the games I play utilize the number instead of the function row therefore I haven't encountered many problems. The arrow-mode is super helpful.

    If I ever do need to use the function row more often I would probably just map the keys to my Naga and be fine with that. I even prefer it when I do have a function row available. But if you don't want to use a Naga, I would probably be more in the market for the KBT Race or one of the Ducky keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:15:23
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:07:23
    If I ever do need to use the function row more often I would probably just map the keys to my Naga and be fine with that. I even prefer it when I do have a function row available..

    Not a bad idea. Maybe I'll get one, if I find myself missing the function keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Sun, 19 May 2013, 03:14:29
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 18 May 2013, 23:51:29
    I recently removed my 40A-R o-rings from my poker after having them on for a month. You are correct in that I am using more energy to type because of the increased travel.

    So why did I remove them?

    The short travel keys were too reminiscent of rubber domes. Over time I began to miss the solid sound and feel of each keypress. The sensation of the MX Switch was lessened in every way by the o-rings. The biggest factor was travel.

    When I had the o-rings on, I left my number row untouched [just to see which I would prefer over time] and I found myself often looking forward to hitting those keys. They used more energy, and they decreased my typing speed by a small margin but I found out over time that these trade-offs were well worth it for the feeling of a long-travel typing experience.

    When you remove the o-rings it's kind of like typing with an extra layer of air beneath your keys. It may slow you down and it may cause typing to be excessively tiring over long stretches, but just being able to experience the deeper dimensions of each individual keypress gives me some kind of satisfaction.

    Just one guy's opinion, of course people have had wildly different experiences with o-rings. Personal preference really.

    Nice review. I had a similar experience.

    I typed in MX Red with fat O'Rings for more than a year, and it's great in terms of responsiveness. I defintely recommend that for anyone striving for any kind of edge in gaming or fast typing. For those who like heavy switches, maybe MX Black is even better because of the stronger rebound.

    A few weeks ago I switched back to a O'Ringless keyboard, and I can attest what you said: the bottom-out feel (bigger travel and sound) makes an intrinsical part of the whole mechanical keyboard feel!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 19 May 2013, 06:55:28
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:15:23
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:07:23
    If I ever do need to use the function row more often I would probably just map the keys to my Naga and be fine with that. I even prefer it when I do have a function row available..

    Not a bad idea. Maybe I'll get one, if I find myself missing the function keys.

    Okay, bad idea. That s*** is almost as much as the Poker. I guess either deal with it, or get backlit TKL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 19 May 2013, 10:09:45
    Lol yes it is kind of expensive. And its not perfect either. But it has dem keys. The logitech g600 is a viable alternative that is a little cheaper. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 12:24:30
    Are there differences in feel between monterey whites and real alps whites?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 12:30:07
    Quote from: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 12:24:30
    Are there differences in feel between monterey whites and real alps whites?

    There are Monterey white switches? I've never heard of such a thing. And there are both Tactile and Clicky White Alps switches. I'm not really sure what the difference in between the Monterey/XM Alps vs the real Alps stuff other than the fact that they feel different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 12:42:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 12:30:07
    Quote from: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 12:24:30
    Are there differences in feel between monterey whites and real alps whites?

    There are Monterey white switches? I've never heard of such a thing. And there are both Tactile and Clicky White Alps switches. I'm not really sure what the difference in between the Monterey/XM Alps vs the real Alps stuff other than the fact that they feel different.
    I just bought one its not exactly white but its more of an ivory colour. It was a SIIG MiniTouch, really good condition, looked brand new (http://deskthority.net/w/images/6/6b/Minitouch.jpg) Thats it from deskthority, not the one I bought but they're both in the same condition. I may have over payed at $50, but I doubt it for a compact alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:10:13
    The price you paid isn't bad. Do the switches say "Alps" on them? That's how you would know if they're real Alps switches or not. Do you have a picture with the caps pulled so we can see the switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:14:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:10:13
    The price you paid isn't bad. Do the switches say "Alps" on them? That's how you would know if they're real Alps switches or not. Do you have a picture with the caps pulled so we can see the switches?
    Oh I know they're not real, SIIG Minitouch never had real alps switches, I just figured if I don't like them I've still got a bad-ass oldschool compact alps clone. Plus, I could put real alps in them later if I find ones that I really like then I'd have a semi custom alps board. I was just wondering how they differed and what they felt like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:18:07
    Ah ok. Well I think they feel pretty similar. The switches in the Filco Zero are Clicky White XM Alps clones and they were a little scratchier than the Clicky White Alps in my Focus FK-2001.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:23:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:18:07
    Ah ok. Well I think they feel pretty similar. The switches in the Filco Zero are Clicky White XM Alps clones and they were a little scratchier than the Clicky White Alps in my Focus FK-2001.
    I could probably just lube them if they're scratchy, yes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:25:38
    Quote from: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:23:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:18:07
    Ah ok. Well I think they feel pretty similar. The switches in the Filco Zero are Clicky White XM Alps clones and they were a little scratchier than the Clicky White Alps in my Focus FK-2001.
    I could probably just lube them if they're scratchy, yes?

    Yeah for sure. I might do the same for my Alps board once I get it all built up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:28:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:25:38
    Quote from: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:23:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:18:07
    Ah ok. Well I think they feel pretty similar. The switches in the Filco Zero are Clicky White XM Alps clones and they were a little scratchier than the Clicky White Alps in my Focus FK-2001.
    I could probably just lube them if they're scratchy, yes?

    Yeah for sure. I might do the same for my Alps board once I get it all built up.
    Yay :) thanks for all that info CPT, and I'm sorry this question was a bit longer than the average on here... I just didn't think it needed its own thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:29:37
    No need to apologize. Let us know how you like that Minitouch ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:36:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 13:29:37
    No need to apologize. Let us know how you like that Minitouch ^__^
    Definitely! I just now noticed that the CTRL is in a extremely awkward place but, I guess I can get used to that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:29:14
    Is there a guide to tell alps from alps clones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 17:40:56
    Alps Switches will say ALPS on them like Cherry switches do. Clones won't. Pretty much anything that's relatively new will have clones while things that are older should have Alps switches. My Focus FK-2001 and Dell AT101W have legit Alps switches while the Filco Zero and Ducky 1087 XM have clones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:12:33
    Question: If the choice is available, should I choose PBT dyesub over double-shot ABS keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:15:01
    Quote from: linziyi on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:12:33
    Question: If the choice is available, should I choose PBT dyesub over double-shot ABS keycaps?

    lol it's going to depend on the person, but I'd go with PBT dyesub  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:16:46
    Quote from: linziyi on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:12:33
    Question: If the choice is available, should I choose PBT dyesub over double-shot ABS keycaps?

    See the OP or click here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg866928#msg866928). You've asked this already too I believe. And it's asked once a page?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:24:28
    One more question (been looking at keyboards too much today my wallet is going to catch on fire)... Fortunately(for my wallet, not me), I cant buy this one.
    Whats so special about this keyboard?
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/e/e2/Space-cadet_guts.jpg)
    Its called the Space-Cadet, and the deskthority wiki says its known as the holy grail of keyboards. But that's all it says, what is so special about this thing, other than the fact that its ****ing gorgeous?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:25:52
    Quote from: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:24:28
    One more question (been looking at keyboards too much today my wallet is going to catch on fire)... Fortunately(for my wallet, not me), I cant buy this one.
    Whats so special about this keyboard?
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/e/e2/Space-cadet_guts.jpg)

    Its called the Space-Cadet, and the deskthority wiki says its known as the holy grail of keyboards. But that's all it says, what is so special about this thing, other than the fact that its ****ing gorgeous and looks to be hall-effect (please tell me that guess is right)

    I'm pretty sure this is a non-mass production keyboard used by NASA. Put those together makes it super rare and I'm sure isn't for sale to the general public
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:31:39
    Quote from: Rule16 on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:24:28
    One more question (been looking at keyboards too much today my wallet is going to catch on fire)... Fortunately(for my wallet, not me), I cant buy this one.
    Whats so special about this keyboard?
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/e/e2/Space-cadet_guts.jpg)

    Its called the Space-Cadet, and the deskthority wiki says its known as the holy grail of keyboards. But that's all it says, what is so special about this thing, other than the fact that its ****ing gorgeous?

    Some more info can be found on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:01:33
    Rare
    Classic styling
    Built like a tank
    Incredibly complex
    A first for several computing concepts
    Legendary
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:15:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 18:31:39
    Some more info can be found on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard).

    I wonder if Richard Stallman has one stored away, somewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:21:33
    Is there any way of removing the caps/scroll lock text cleanly on a Filco MJ2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:23:05
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:21:33
    Is there any way of removing the caps/scroll lock text cleanly on a Filco MJ2?
    Remove surrounding keys, pull and wiggle gently with fingers until it comes off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:26:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:23:05
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:21:33
    Is there any way of removing the caps/scroll lock text cleanly on a Filco MJ2?
    Remove surrounding keys, pull and wiggle gently with fingers until it comes off.

    Sorry for the lack of clarification, I meant removing the text beside the LEDs :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:29:33
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:26:52
    Sorry for the lack of clarification, I meant removing the text beside the LEDs :D.

    Various stages of high grit sandpaper, and be very careful?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:41:45
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:29:33
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:26:52
    Sorry for the lack of clarification, I meant removing the text beside the LEDs :D.

    Various stages of high grit sandpaper, and be very careful?

    Maybe you can find a blank cap or something else that will fit that profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 19 May 2013, 21:40:46
    For you guys that have done the removable cable mod to fixed cable keyboards where to you get your connectors and is there kind of a how to thread, or a build log from someone doing it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 19 May 2013, 21:56:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:41:45
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:29:33
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:26:52
    Sorry for the lack of clarification, I meant removing the text beside the LEDs :D.

    Various stages of high grit sandpaper, and be very careful?

    Maybe you can find a blank cap or something else that will fit that profile?

    I think they're talking about this:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 19 May 2013, 22:02:42
    I think you could actually try washing it off with soap, water and careful scrubbing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 22:08:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 19 May 2013, 21:40:46
    For you guys that have done the removable cable mod to fixed cable keyboards where to you get your connectors and is there kind of a how to thread, or a build log from someone doing it?

    You can try this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35178.0) and this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36371.0). Also I found this one (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38674.0) that is a bit old but has fantastic pictures. Just remember to tin the wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 19 May 2013, 22:12:57
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 19 May 2013, 22:02:42
    I think you could actually try washing it off with soap, water and careful scrubbing.

    A little acetone could possibly help, maybe...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 19 May 2013, 22:22:05
    I would never bring acetone in contact with any keyboard.  It dissolves most plastics.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 19 May 2013, 22:22:50
    Not PBT, young padawan. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 19 May 2013, 22:24:58
    Filco case is definitely susceptible.  I know from experience... my white Filco case was ruined by mere GooGone before it was painted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 19 May 2013, 22:25:42
    I'd use an eraser, or perhaps a Magic Eraser, since those are fairly abrasive to plastics.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 00:43:50
    Anyone ever done a detachable cable mod on a keyboard that also has a USB pass through?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 20 May 2013, 01:38:17
    I understand the merits of lubricating, but what is the point of stickering?  Does it make switches fit more tightly or some such?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 20 May 2013, 01:42:37
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 20 May 2013, 01:38:17
    I understand the merits of lubricating, but what is the point of stickering?  Does it make switches fit more tightly or some such?
    It is supposed to :
    -Make the top of the switches fit more tightly to the bottom of the switches.
    -Stop dust getting into the switches.

    Some people say they work, others say they're a gimmick. I honestly have no clue but if you're going to lube your switches and spend all that time on your keyboard you might aswell spend 10 bucks on stickers and go all the way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Mon, 20 May 2013, 02:49:33
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 20 May 2013, 01:42:37
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 20 May 2013, 01:38:17
    I understand the merits of lubricating, but what is the point of stickering?  Does it make switches fit more tightly or some such?
    It is supposed to :
    -Make the top of the switches fit more tightly to the bottom of the switches.
    -Stop dust getting into the switches.

    Some people say they work, others say they're a gimmick. I honestly have no clue but if you're going to lube your switches and spend all that time on your keyboard you might aswell spend 10 bucks on stickers and go all the way.

    very very subtle difference for a lot of work. Slight change in the sound of bottoming out (more subdued, perhaps? or it could be placebo). As for the tightness and dust issue, people have been using their boards for years without this anyway.

    but I agree with Photoekq - since you're opening up your switches anyway, might as well go the whole mile. That's what got me to do mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 06:07:17
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 20 May 2013, 01:38:17
    I understand the merits of lubricating, but what is the point of stickering?  Does it make switches fit more tightly or some such?

    Answer can also be found in the OP ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 06:52:06
    Would it be possible for someone to email me some files for common CNC parts and I can ask around to some local shops for prices just to see if I can find some decent deals.  PM me for email address.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:04:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 06:52:06
    Would it be possible for someone to email me some files for common CNC parts and I can ask around to some local shops for prices just to see if I can find some decent deals.  PM me for email address.

    Let me see if I can get a plate drawing from The_Beast for you Melvang.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:06:53
    cool thanx man

    Also would the procedure for doing a detachable cable mod work the same for the USB pass through for USB ports on the keyboard?  And if i do that would there be anything fundamentally different for updating the ports on my Das to USB 3.0?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:09:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:06:53
    Also would the procedure for doing a detachable cable mod work the same for the USB pass through for USB ports on the keyboard?

    I think so? I'm not sure.

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:06:53
    And if i do that would there be anything fundamentally different for updating the ports on my Das to USB 3.0?

    This question I honestly don't know the answer to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:27:07
    AFAIK there would not be any difference in plugging your Das into a 3.0 slot. The two hubs on the keyboard itself are 2.0 so there would be no effect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:29:40
    So it would require a new daughter board then to make the ports 3.0 then?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:32:20
    I assume it would.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:53:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:29:40
    So it would require a new daughter board then to make the ports 3.0 then?

    I'm pretty sure
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:29:40
    So it would require a new daughter board then to make the ports 3.0 then?

    If your wanting to 'convert' the usb 2 ports on your keyboard to usb 3 nothing is impossible but I would say its impractical. Usb 3 would require using a usb 3 cable, the chipsets are different and the plugs/ports are different, obviously you can plug usb 2/3 into each other but you won't get usb 3 speeds unless the entire usb 'ecosystem' supports 3.

    I'm not expert but I'd say this one is near impossible but someone else may know better.

    Here is a pic comparing the plugs.


    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 08:04:40
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:53:53
    If your wanting to 'convert' the usb 2 ports on your keyboard to usb 3 nothing is impossible but I would say its impractical. Usb 3 would require using a usb 3 cable, the chipsets are different and the plugs/ports are different, obviously you can plug usb 2/3 into each other but you won't get usb 3 speeds unless the entire usb 'ecosystem' supports 3.

    I'm not expert but I'd say this one is near impossible but someone else may know better.

    Here is a pic comparing the plugs.


    (Attachment Link)

    Thanks Ray I knew that the cable would plug into each other.  I have 3.0 front panel headers on my case and on my motherboard.  I just didn't realize that there was this much physical difference between the plugs.  But you did help me out in another question I had that I will ask now.

    Does anyone know of a connector that has at least 7 conductors and will fit onto a PCI slot cover?  After seeing this pic I am thinking that I might go with a USB 3.0 if I can find some blank plugs or cheap-ish cables I can sacrifice.  But if anyone knows of one that is easier to work with or easier to get blank male and female connectors it would be very much appreciated. 

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 May 2013, 08:15:50
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:26:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:17:55
    Quote from: clockwork on Sat, 18 May 2013, 03:15:03
    Show Image
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:15:09
    Lights off

    (https://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg) (https://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg)
    Can someone do a similar picture on a Ducky Shine 2 or other keyboard with reversed switches (LEDs at the top)? I'm wondering if putting the LED right under the keycap legend makes it readable in the dark, or if the printing just doesn't have enough contrast when backlit.

    I don't have a Ducky but I think if I flip the caps upside down I can get the same effect. I don't think it will be that visible. But we'll try it later unless someone beats me to it first.

    If he is just wanting a picture of the ducky shine II lit up in the dark I'm sure I can do that....but not until the boss leaves :p

    here are a couple super potato pick of my ducky back lighting....sorry I had to do it really quick

    [attach=2]

    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 08:16:47
    Thanks ray4jc. I was going to PM you just to see if you were still doing this ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:03:47
    Any idea where I can get a tool to help remove pcb mounted switches? I have seen several different methods, but it appears that someone, beast maybe?? created a small set of two metal tools that help pop those switches out. If those aren't for sale, what tools would you guys recommend? I plan on swapping out a whole board worth of switches and will be adding some stickers and lube as well, what tools will I need?

    Thanks!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:06:14
    Quote from: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:03:47
    Any idea where I can get a tool to help remove pcb mounted switches? I have seen several different methods, but it appears that someone, beast maybe?? created a small set of two metal tools that help pop those switches out. If those aren't for sale, what tools would you guys recommend? I plan on swapping out a whole board worth of switches and will be adding some stickers and lube as well, what tools will I need?

    Thanks!!

    The_Beast had made a set of switch opening tools. You can try PM'ing him to find them. Otherwise I've heard ppl having success with tweezers. And maybe if you're brave you can try pliers?

    Stickers I think you just need fingers.

    Lube you'll need something to mix lube in or just a container plus a brush. Check out MMB's MX Lube Guide in the "Making Stuff Together" subforum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:14:21
    Ah, so it is kinda what I thought it was, just make something work then because that specific tool isn't made/sold yet. Got it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:15:55
    There was a R1 already, so it has been sold. And he told me there would be a R2 but he's been busy. Like I said, PM him; he might have extras.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:20:11
    Quote from: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:03:47
    Any idea where I can get a tool to help remove pcb mounted switches? I have seen several different methods, but it appears that someone, beast maybe?? created a small set of two metal tools that help pop those switches out. If those aren't for sale, what tools would you guys recommend? I plan on swapping out a whole board worth of switches and will be adding some stickers and lube as well, what tools will I need?

    Thanks!!

    You can bend a pair of reverse action tweezers to act as switch tools. This is what they look like.

    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8108/8646554313_0389f35522_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/89364707@N02/8646554313/)

    and this is how you want it to look like after bending (the one on the lower right). The one on the upper left will damage your switch tops.

    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8534/8646555391_25f68e8deb_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/89364707@N02/8646555391/)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:21:06
    Those pictures are glorious Larken, I'm going to put them in the OP because this has been asked a few times now. Thanks so much for adding those in ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:22:23
    Pleasure to be of service, Captain. *salute*.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:27:24
    Quote from: Larken on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:20:11
    Show Image
    Show Image
    Quote from: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:03:47
    Any idea where I can get a tool to help remove pcb mounted switches? I have seen several different methods, but it appears that someone, beast maybe?? created a small set of two metal tools that help pop those switches out. If those aren't for sale, what tools would you guys recommend? I plan on swapping out a whole board worth of switches and will be adding some stickers and lube as well, what tools will I need?

    Thanks!!

    You can bend a pair of reverse action tweezers to act as switch tools. This is what they look like.

    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8108/8646554313_0389f35522_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/89364707@N02/8646554313/)


    and this is how you want it to look like after bending (the one on the lower right). The one on the upper left will damage your switch tops.

    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8534/8646555391_25f68e8deb_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/89364707@N02/8646555391/)

    This is great, I am going to swing by cvs on the way home and see if I can find something similar!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:32:00
    Since, surprisingly, it hasn't been mentioned yet, there's also the tried and true binder clip switch top opener.  Just take the arms from a binder clip and bend them with a pair of pliers or vice grips.  Limmy's KBDMania guide, for reference (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/tipandtech/3520312).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:33:10
    That's awesome. I've never seen seen or heard of that Nubbinator. Thanks for sharing :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:35:18
    @ goodfella, you'd need to bend two pairs of those (to look like the one on the lower right) to use it like how the one from The_Beast. see pic from Jocelyn - http://imageshack.us/a/img138/3729/toolsp.jpg

    Just putting it out there in case my picture was misleading.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:37:52
    Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:32:00
    Since, surprisingly, it hasn't been mentioned yet, there's also the tried and true binder clip switch top opener.  Just take the arms from a binder clip and bend them with a pair of pliers or vice grips.  Limmy's KBDMania guide, for reference (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/tipandtech/3520312).

    since i've got a drawer full of these.....must try :o
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:40:06
    Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:32:00
    Since, surprisingly, it hasn't been mentioned yet, there's also the tried and true binder clip switch top opener.  Just take the arms from a binder clip and bend them with a pair of pliers or vice grips.  Limmy's KBDMania guide, for reference (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/tipandtech/3520312).

    Wow, that is really simple. I have 4 of those on my desk as I type this, looks like I know what I will be trying first. Can't wait to post after I get home asking how to put my keyboard back together hahahah
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:40:46
    Quote from: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:40:06
    Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:32:00
    Since, surprisingly, it hasn't been mentioned yet, there's also the tried and true binder clip switch top opener.  Just take the arms from a binder clip and bend them with a pair of pliers or vice grips.  Limmy's KBDMania guide, for reference (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/tipandtech/3520312).

    Wow, that is really simple. I have 4 of those on my desk as I type this, looks like I know what I will be trying first. Can't wait to post after I get home asking how to put my keyboard back together hahahah

    How are you going to type if the board isn't back together? :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:50:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:40:46
    Quote from: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:40:06
    Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:32:00
    Since, surprisingly, it hasn't been mentioned yet, there's also the tried and true binder clip switch top opener.  Just take the arms from a binder clip and bend them with a pair of pliers or vice grips.  Limmy's KBDMania guide, for reference (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/tipandtech/3520312).

    Wow, that is really simple. I have 4 of those on my desk as I type this, looks like I know what I will be trying first. Can't wait to post after I get home asking how to put my keyboard back together hahahah

    How are you going to type if the board isn't back together? :P

    With my mind! and after I give that up I will plug in one of my other keyboards lol

    Let me ask you this, are there any other well known pcb mounted switch TKL boards out there? It looks like I will be able to mod the poker pretty easily, but I do prefer a TKL layout, do those exist?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:53:05
    Quote from: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 11:50:53
    Let me ask you this, are there any other well known pcb mounted switch TKL boards out there? It looks like I will be able to mod the poker pretty easily, but I do prefer a TKL layout, do those exist?

    I'm not sure. I would imagine there are but I believe most TKL boards are Plate Mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 20 May 2013, 15:47:28
    Sadly. Best bet would be to get a board with a switch plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:05:14
    There is the NEO Zelia for a PCB mount TKL. Asides from custom chopped G80-3000 I think those are about it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:07:43
    So I got my QFR with a custom plate... Will it fit in my old ducky case?  I don't like the branding at the back or the rubberized finish...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:08:12
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:07:43
    So I got my QFR with a custom plate... Will it fit in my old ducky case?  I don't like the branding at the back or the rubberized finish...

    What Ducky board did you have?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:40:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:08:12
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:07:43
    So I got my QFR with a custom plate... Will it fit in my old ducky case?  I don't like the branding at the back or the rubberized finish...

    What Ducky board did you have?
    DK9087, it has a space for the DIP switches at the bottom, but I think the top part will fit, as that's what I'm wanting to change. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:56:49
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:40:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:08:12
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:07:43
    So I got my QFR with a custom plate... Will it fit in my old ducky case?  I don't like the branding at the back or the rubberized finish...

    What Ducky board did you have?
    DK9087, it has a space for the DIP switches at the bottom, but I think the top part will fit, as that's what I'm wanting to change. ;)

    Unsure. I'm going to hesitate a guess of no and the Vulcan guesses no as well. But try it for keyboard science!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pandather on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:11:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:56:49
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:40:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:08:12
    Quote from: gopanthersgo1 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:07:43
    So I got my QFR with a custom plate... Will it fit in my old ducky case?  I don't like the branding at the back or the rubberized finish...

    What Ducky board did you have?
    DK9087, it has a space for the DIP switches at the bottom, but I think the top part will fit, as that's what I'm wanting to change. ;)

    Unsure. I'm going to hesitate a guess of no and the Vulcan guesses no as well. But try it for keyboard science!
    the thing is that I think my ducky still has a warranty... :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:30:36
    What are some non-standard but still somewhat standard sized shift and bottom row modifier keys would like to at least design a keyboard layout using the 2 in the OP of this thread.  But I don't want to create something that would be expensive to get a full set of caps for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:54:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:30:36
    What are some non-standard but still somewhat standard sized shift and bottom row modifier keys would like to at least design a keyboard layout using the 2 in the OP of this thread.  But I don't want to create something that would be expensive to get a full set of caps for.

    Bottom row "shift" mods come in 1.25, 1.75, 2.25, and 2.75 units. Bottom row modifiers come in 1.0, 1.25, and 1.5 units.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:56:50
    What is the size of the right shift for a keycool 84?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:57:34
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:56:50
    What is the size of the right shift for a keycool 84?


    Looks like 1.75 to me. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:58:49
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:57:34
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:56:50
    What is the size of the right shift for a keycool 84?


    Looks like 1.75 to me. :)

    cool :)
    going to recommend for my friend to go for the keycool over the race..don't you have a keycool? or a noppoo?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:10:45
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:54:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:30:36
    What are some non-standard but still somewhat standard sized shift and bottom row modifier keys would like to at least design a keyboard layout using the 2 in the OP of this thread.  But I don't want to create something that would be expensive to get a full set of caps for.

    Bottom row "shift" mods come in 1.25, 1.75, 2.25, and 2.75 units. Bottom row modifiers come in 1.0, 1.25, and 1.5 units.

    I thought there was a 2.0 and a 1.0 unit Shift key
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:14:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:10:45
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:54:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:30:36
    What are some non-standard but still somewhat standard sized shift and bottom row modifier keys would like to at least design a keyboard layout using the 2 in the OP of this thread.  But I don't want to create something that would be expensive to get a full set of caps for.

    Bottom row "shift" mods come in 1.25, 1.75, 2.25, and 2.75 units. Bottom row modifiers come in 1.0, 1.25, and 1.5 units.

    I thought there was a 2.0 and a 1.0 unit Shift key

    They might exist but I've NEVER seen a replacement cap that had those sizes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:22:52
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:05:14
    There is the NEO Zelia for a PCB mount TKL. Asides from custom chopped G80-3000 I think those are about it.

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14126998195&ali_trackid=2:mm_14507416_2297358_8935934:1369091959_4k9_695529491&spm=a230z.1.5634029.1.uOVfnX

    This looks amazing! Wireless, TKL, mod'able to add LED's, PCB mount for changing switches and low profile...

    How can I get my hands on this???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:23:37
    Quote from: Goodfella on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:22:52
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 May 2013, 16:05:14
    There is the NEO Zelia for a PCB mount TKL. Asides from custom chopped G80-3000 I think those are about it.

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14126998195&ali_trackid=2:mm_14507416_2297358_8935934:1369091959_4k9_695529491&spm=a230z.1.5634029.1.uOVfnX

    This looks amazing! Wireless, TKL, mod'able to add LED's, PCB mount for changing switches and low profile...

    How can I get my hands on this???

    Find a TaoBao agent? Maybe qtan? I'm not sure who else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:26:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:10:45
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:54:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:30:36
    What are some non-standard but still somewhat standard sized shift and bottom row modifier keys would like to at least design a keyboard layout using the 2 in the OP of this thread.  But I don't want to create something that would be expensive to get a full set of caps for.

    Bottom row "shift" mods come in 1.25, 1.75, 2.25, and 2.75 units. Bottom row modifiers come in 1.0, 1.25, and 1.5 units.

    I thought there was a 2.0 and a 1.0 unit Shift key

    I didn't think you wanted uncommon or one-off sizes. :|
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:40:00
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:26:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:10:45
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:54:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 May 2013, 17:30:36
    What are some non-standard but still somewhat standard sized shift and bottom row modifier keys would like to at least design a keyboard layout using the 2 in the OP of this thread.  But I don't want to create something that would be expensive to get a full set of caps for.

    Bottom row "shift" mods come in 1.25, 1.75, 2.25, and 2.75 units. Bottom row modifiers come in 1.0, 1.25, and 1.5 units.

    I thought there was a 2.0 and a 1.0 unit Shift key

    I didn't think you wanted uncommon or one-off sizes. :

    No I didn't want on off or that uncommon but thanks for the info.  I did want the sizes that replacement caps are available for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clockwork on Mon, 20 May 2013, 20:51:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 20 May 2013, 08:15:50
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:26:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 May 2013, 07:17:55
    Quote from: clockwork on Sat, 18 May 2013, 03:15:03
    Show Image
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 17 May 2013, 22:15:09
    Lights off

    (https://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg) (https://imageshack.us/a/img850/1175/pure2p.jpg)
    Can someone do a similar picture on a Ducky Shine 2 or other keyboard with reversed switches (LEDs at the top)? I'm wondering if putting the LED right under the keycap legend makes it readable in the dark, or if the printing just doesn't have enough contrast when backlit.

    I don't have a Ducky but I think if I flip the caps upside down I can get the same effect. I don't think it will be that visible. But we'll try it later unless someone beats me to it first.

    If he is just wanting a picture of the ducky shine II lit up in the dark I'm sure I can do that....but not until the boss leaves :p

    here are a couple super potato pick of my ducky back lighting....sorry I had to do it really quick

    [attach=2]

    [attach=1]
    Thanks for the pics. Unfortunately, I was looking for what a backlit Ducky with non-backlit-compatible (like thick PBT) keycaps looks like if you turn on the backlighting, specifically if the legends are visible at all. CPTBadAss' idea of flipping around the keys on his keyboard would give a nearly identical effect.


    Separate question: is there such a thing as a TKL with either a snap-on palm rest or an extended lower edge that serves as one, that isn't custom or otherwise very expensive? I know you can get such a beast in full size, like the CM Trigger, but I haven't seen one yet in TKL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 20:54:45
    Quote from: clockwork on Mon, 20 May 2013, 20:51:58
    Thanks for the pics. Unfortunately, I was looking for what a backlit Ducky with non-backlit-compatible (like thick PBT) keycaps looks like if you turn on the backlighting, specifically if the legends are visible at all. CPTBadAss' idea of flipping around the keys on his keyboard would give a nearly identical effect.


    Separate question: is there such a thing as a TKL with either a snap-on palm rest or an extended lower edge that serves as one, that isn't custom or otherwise very expensive? I know you can get such a beast in full size, like the CM Trigger, but I haven't seen one yet in TKL.

    I've been a little busy. I'll try and take a pic with the flipped caps soon. And I've never seen a snap on palm rest that is stock. That being said, have you checked out The_Beast's (http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=127.0) rests? He could hook you up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clockwork on Mon, 20 May 2013, 21:14:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 20:54:45
    Quote from: clockwork on Mon, 20 May 2013, 20:51:58
    Thanks for the pics. Unfortunately, I was looking for what a backlit Ducky with non-backlit-compatible (like thick PBT) keycaps looks like if you turn on the backlighting, specifically if the legends are visible at all. CPTBadAss' idea of flipping around the keys on his keyboard would give a nearly identical effect.


    Separate question: is there such a thing as a TKL with either a snap-on palm rest or an extended lower edge that serves as one, that isn't custom or otherwise very expensive? I know you can get such a beast in full size, like the CM Trigger, but I haven't seen one yet in TKL.

    I've been a little busy. I'll try and take a pic with the flipped caps soon. And I've never seen a snap on palm rest that is stock. That being said, have you checked out The_Beast's (http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=127.0) rests? He could hook you up.
    Before you take the time to do that, I'm going to ask VesperSAINT if he can take a pic, since (per his post in another thread today) he has a Shine II with regular white PBT keycaps already installed.

    On the palm rest thing, it isn't for me, but rather my father. He really likes the integral palm rest on his current ancient rubber dome board, but is looking at getting a mechanical, and doesn't need the numeric keypad. I did mention separate palm rests to him, but he doesn't like them for some unexplained reason. I did see The_Beast's very nice work, and while the version that sits under the keyboard would, in my opinion, work fine, I kinda doubt my father wants to go that far immediately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 20 May 2013, 21:20:27
    Question someone posted in this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) thread.

    Quote from: Aranair on Fri, 17 May 2013, 08:27:24
    mm, by any chance, is there a similar topre lubrication guide ?:P

    Is it a common, or even necessary procedure?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 21:23:06
    Quote from: dnix on Mon, 20 May 2013, 21:20:27
    mm, by any chance, is there a similar topre lubrication guide ?:P

    Is it a common, or even necessary procedure?
    [/quote]

    I've never heard of anyone lubing their Topre switches. But I don't think its necessary. They feel smooth already ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 20 May 2013, 22:33:26
    Hash and Bro caps do it, iirc. Ask them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:17:36
    2 quick questions:

    1.  I am currently looking at downsizing to a smaller board from a full size and am looking at the KBT race.  It has a 2nd layer function for F-row keys.  Are these accessible during boot to get into bios or select a boot drive?

    2.  I am coming from mx blues, and both of the boards I am looking at are mx reds.  I do bottom the crap out of these, and really like the clickyness of the keys.  Is it going to be a dramatic difference going to the reds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:18:44
    Guys, I searched and lurked for a while now and cannot find the thread with realforce 87U pictures that someone mentioned was available but gave no link in another thread... It's supposed to be in-person pictures so that you can see differences between the white and black model. I tried searching to no avail. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:19:36
    Quote from: Folio on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:18:44
    Guys, I searched and lurked for a while now and cannot find the thread with realforce 87U pictures that someone mentioned was available but gave no link in another thread... It's supposed to be in-person pictures so that you can see differences between the white and black model. I tried searching to no avail. Thanks.

    Are the pictures on elitekeyboards not nice enough to compare?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:37:47
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:17:36
    2.  I am coming from mx blues, and both of the boards I am looking at are mx reds.  I do bottom the crap out of these, and really like the clickyness of the keys.  Is it going to be a dramatic difference going to the reds?

    Yes! Really dramatic difference. Springs aside, those two switches are objectively the most unalike pair (linear vs clicky). The most unalike pair is MX Red and MX Green (linear vs clicky; light vs very stiff).

    Made this little graph for fun :D

    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuyah/Keyboard/MXgraph_zps1f1135ab.jpg)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:43:02
    Quote from: F u r u y á on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:37:47
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:17:36
    2.  I am coming from mx blues, and both of the boards I am looking at are mx reds.  I do bottom the crap out of these, and really like the clickyness of the keys.  Is it going to be a dramatic difference going to the reds?

    Yes! Really dramatic difference. Springs aside, those two switches are objectively the most unalike pair (linear vs clicky). The most unalike pair is MX Red and MX Green (linear vs clicky; light vs very stiff).

    Made this little graph for fun :D

    Show Image
    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuyah/Keyboard/MXgraph_zps1f1135ab.jpg)




    dude that is a sweet pic!!

    on topic any recommend the best way to go about carving up a case to turn a tkl case into a tk compatible one? is there a mod around here?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: F u r u y á on Tue, 21 May 2013, 01:15:14
    Thanks! Glad you liked :)

    Last holiday (workers day) I took some pictures of switches (yeah, had nothing better to do). Here's one more (please excuse the off topic):

    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuyah/Keyboard/MXrow_zpsa31e77a9.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Tue, 21 May 2013, 01:21:53
    Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:19:36
    Quote from: Folio on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:18:44
    Guys, I searched and lurked for a while now and cannot find the thread with realforce 87U pictures that someone mentioned was available but gave no link in another thread... It's supposed to be in-person pictures so that you can see differences between the white and black model. I tried searching to no avail. Thanks.

    Are the pictures on elitekeyboards not nice enough to compare?

    I heard they are a bit washed out on EK and seeing a picture of them in an actual user's room would give a good idea of how it looks in person.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 21 May 2013, 08:29:07
    Well I have been playing around in the first link of the 2 KB layout generators.  And this is what I have come up with.  Any comments or suggestions?

    Top Layer (http://ne0.cc/laygen/#Esc%3A%3A1%20%201%3A%3A1%20%202%3A%3A1%20%203%3A%3A1%20%204%3A%3A1%20%205%3A%3A1%20%206%3A%3A1%20%207%3A%3A1%20%208%3A%3A1%20%209%3A%3A1%20%200%3A%3A1%20%20-_%3A%3A1%20%20+%3D%3A%3A1%20%20Backspace%3A%3A2%24%24%0ATab%3A%3A1.5%20%20Q%3A%3A1%20%20W%3A%3A1%20%20E%3A%3A1%20%20R%3A%3A1%20%20T%3A%3A1%20%20Y%3A%3A1%20%20U%3A%3A1%20%20I%3A%3A1%20%20O%3A%3A1%20%20P%3A%3A1%20%20%5B%7B%3A%3A1%20%20%5D%7D%3A%3A1%20%20%5C%7C%3A%3A1.5%24%24%0ACaps%20Lock%3A%3A1.75%20%20A%3A%3A1%20%20S%3A%3A1%20%20D%3A%3A1%20%20F%3A%3A1%20%20G%3A%3A1%20%20H%3A%3A1%20%20J%3A%3A1%20%20K%3A%3A1%20%20L%3A%3A1%20%20%3B%3A%20%3A%3A1%20%20%27%22%3A%3A1%20%20Enter%3A%3A2.25%24%24%0AShift%3A%3A2.25%20%20Z%3A%3A1%20%20X%3A%3A1%20%20C%3A%3A1%20%20V%3A%3A1%20%20B%3A%3A1%20%20N%3A%3A1%20%20M%3A%3A1%20%20%3C%2C%3A%3A1%20%20%3E.%3A%3A1%20%20/%3F%3A%3A1%20%20%5E%3A%3A1.75%20%20Delete%3A%3A1%24%24%0AControl%3A%3A1.25%20%20Meta%3A%3A1.25%20%20Alt%3A%3A1.25%20%20Space%3A%3A6.25%20%20Fn%3A%3A1.25%20%20%3C%3A%3A1.25%20%20V%3A%3A1.25%20%20%3E%3A%3A1.25%24%24)

    Function Layer  (http://ne0.cc/laygen/#Esc%3A%3A1%20%20F1%3A%3A1%20%20F2%3A%3A1%20%20F3%3A%3A1%20%20F4%3A%3A1%20%20F5%3A%3A1%20%20F6%3A%3A1%20%20F7%3A%3A1%20%20F8%3A%3A1%20%20F9%3A%3A1%20%20F0%3A%3A1%20%20F11%3A%3A1%20%20F12%3A%3A1%20%20Backspace%3A%3A2%24%24%0ATab%3A%3A1.5%20%20Q%3A%3A1%20%20W%3A%3A1%20%20E%3A%3A1%20%20R%3A%3A1%20%20T%3A%3A1%20%20Y%3A%3A1%20%20U%3A%3A1%20%20I%3A%3A1%20%20O%3A%3A1%20%20P%3A%3A1%20%20%5B%7B%3A%3A1%20%20%5D%7D%3A%3A1%20%20%5C%7C%3A%3A1.5%24%24%0ACaps%20Lock%3A%3A1.75%20%20A%3A%3A1%20%20S%3A%3A1%20%20D%3A%3A1%20%20F%3A%3A1%20%20G%3A%3A1%20%20H%3A%3A1%20%20J%3A%3A1%20%20K%3A%3A1%20%20L%3A%3A1%20%20%3B%3A%20%3A%3A1%20%20%27%22%3A%3A1%20%20Enter%3A%3A2.25%24%24%0AShift%3A%3A2.25%20%20Z%3A%3A1%20%20X%3A%3A1%20%20C%3A%3A1%20%20V%3A%3A1%20%20B%3A%3A1%20%20N%3A%3A1%20%20M%3A%3A1%20%20%3C%2C%3A%3A1%20%20%3E.%3A%3A1%20%20/%3F%3A%3A1%20%20V%20up%3A%3A1.75%20%20Play%3A%3A1%24%24%0AControl%3A%3A1.25%20%20Meta%3A%3A1.25%20%20Alt%3A%3A1.25%20%20Space%3A%3A6.25%20%20Fn%3A%3A1.25%20%20Prev%3A%3A1.25%20%20V%20Dwn%3A%3A1.25%20%20Next%3A%3A1.25%24%24)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 08:40:00
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:17:36
    2 quick questions:

    1.  I am currently looking at downsizing to a smaller board from a full size and am looking at the KBT race.  It has a 2nd layer function for F-row keys.  Are these accessible during boot to get into bios or select a boot drive?

    2.  I am coming from mx blues, and both of the boards I am looking at are mx reds.  I do bottom the crap out of these, and really like the clickyness of the keys.  Is it going to be a dramatic difference going to the reds?

    1) I'm not sure if they are accessible during boot but I can try this on my Pure later if you like. I would recommend not getting a Race if you're looking to swap the stock caps for something else.

    2) Reds and Blues feel very different to me. Reds are super light and linear. I always bottom out on them. There is zero click. Blues are heavier with a lot of noise and a medium-level click (Compared to Buckling Springs which I would say have a heavy click and MX White which have a light, muffled click).

    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:43:02
    on topic any recommend the best way to go about carving up a case to turn a tkl case into a tk compatible one? is there a mod around here?

    I have never seen a TKL to full-size mod. I know the GHPad is going to have the ability to be attached to a GH60. You could try looking at that. But why not just get a full board or just buy a separate number pad?

    Quote from: Folio on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:18:44
    Guys, I searched and lurked for a while now and cannot find the thread with realforce 87U pictures that someone mentioned was available but gave no link in another thread... It's supposed to be in-person pictures so that you can see differences between the white and black model. I tried searching to no avail. Thanks.

    I found a lot of user shots when I Googled "Realforce 87U" pictures as well as EK having some nice pictures. The Google pictures aren't good enough? You can also try looking in the "Post your Realforce/Topre keyboards" thread. I think it's in the Media sub-forum.

    Quote from: F u r u y á on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:37:47
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:17:36
    2.  I am coming from mx blues, and both of the boards I am looking at are mx reds.  I do bottom the crap out of these, and really like the clickyness of the keys.  Is it going to be a dramatic difference going to the reds?

    Yes! Really dramatic difference. Springs aside, those two switches are objectively the most unalike pair (linear vs clicky). The most unalike pair is MX Red and MX Green (linear vs clicky; light vs very stiff).

    Made this little graph for fun :D

    Show Image
    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuyah/Keyboard/MXgraph_zps1f1135ab.jpg)


    This picture is awesome. Thanks for making it ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:41:54
    Would this (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_99_keypullerwasd_a.jpg) keycap puller work fine for both MX / Topre?  The latter especially, without damaging anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:48:17
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:41:54
    Would this (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_99_keypullerwasd_a.jpg) keycap puller work fine for both MX / Topre?  The latter especially, without damaging anything.

    Yes it will work fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:49:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:48:17
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:41:54
    Would this (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_99_keypullerwasd_a.jpg) keycap puller work fine for both MX / Topre?  The latter especially, without damaging anything.

    Yes it will work fine.

    This^ and get it from Amazon if you have Prime - http://www.amazon.com/WASD-Keyboards-Wire-Keycap-Puller/dp/B00AZCGF7K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369162150&sr=8-1&keywords=wasd+puller
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:49:53
    Indeed it will work well. :D CPTBadAss only tells little lies when he says that the WASD one is better than the Techkeys one. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:52:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 08:40:00
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:17:36
    2 quick questions:

    1.  I am currently looking at downsizing to a smaller board from a full size and am looking at the KBT race.  It has a 2nd layer function for F-row keys.  Are these accessible during boot to get into bios or select a boot drive?

    2.  I am coming from mx blues, and both of the boards I am looking at are mx reds.  I do bottom the crap out of these, and really like the clickyness of the keys.  Is it going to be a dramatic difference going to the reds?

    1) I'm not sure if they are accessible during boot but I can try this on my Pure later if you like. I would recommend not getting a Race if you're looking to swap the stock caps for something else.

    2) Reds and Blues feel very different to me. Reds are super light and linear. I always bottom out on them. There is zero click. Blues are heavier with a lot of noise and a medium-level click (Compared to Buckling Springs which I would say have a heavy click and MX White which have a light, muffled click).



    Yeah, I know that the race makes it very difficult to do any cap swapping (without leaving a few stockers).   Maybe a Choc Mini would be a better way to go to get into a SFF board, or should I just get a TKL?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:57:24
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:52:11
    Yeah, I know that the race makes it very difficult to do any cap swapping (without leaving a few stockers).   Maybe a Choc Mini would be a better way to go to get into a SFF board, or should I just get a TKL?

    Choc Mini has an odd size spacebar. I don't know what you mean by a SFF board. Is it "smaller form factor"? If you're looking to get a 65%/75% board, you could try waiting for the GH75. If you want a 60% board, why not get a Pure, Poker, or GH60?

    Quote from: SmallFry on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:49:53
    Indeed it will work well. :D CPTBadAss only tells little lies when he says that the WASD one is better than the Techkeys one. :P

    I like the TechKeys one better and the WASD is my second favorite. ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:00:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:57:24
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:52:11
    Yeah, I know that the race makes it very difficult to do any cap swapping (without leaving a few stockers).   Maybe a Choc Mini would be a better way to go to get into a SFF board, or should I just get a TKL?

    Choc Mini has an odd size spacebar. I don't know what you mean by a SFF board. Is it "smaller form factor"? If you're looking to get a 65%/75% board, you could try waiting for the GH75. If you want a 60% board, why not get a Pure, Poker, or GH60?



    Yeah, small form factor.  I was looking at those, but am on a serious budget right now with baby coming in the next couple weeks.  I just sold my Ducky 1008C, and only have about $100 to spend including shipping. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:00:27
    Quote from: SmallFry on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:49:53
    Indeed it will work well. :D CPTBadAss only tells little lies when he says that the WASD one is better than the Techkeys one. :p

    The techkeys is worlds better than the WADS, true story. And the cherry keychain pullers are good and the mkc is very sweet, I like it the best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:03:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:48:17
    Yes it will work fine.
    Quote from: SmallFry on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:49:53
    Indeed it will work well. :D CPTBadAss only tells little lies when he says that the WASD one is better than the Techkeys one. :P

    How about the one EK (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,keytools&pid=leokp) sells? The wire looks thinner, like it could get into places easy. Maybe the handle is just bigger.  :-[

    @Jocelyn: Yes I'm buying stuff there, and getting free shipping. So I was looking at the WASD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:06:50
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:03:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:48:17
    Yes it will work fine.
    Quote from: SmallFry on Tue, 21 May 2013, 13:49:53
    Indeed it will work well. :D CPTBadAss only tells little lies when he says that the WASD one is better than the Techkeys one. :P

    How about the one EK (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,keytools&pid=leokp) sells? The wire looks thinner, like it could get into places easy. Maybe the handle is just bigger.  :-[

    @Jocelyn: Yes I'm buying stuff there, and getting free shipping. So I was looking at the WASD.

    I own a WASD & an MKC and the handle on the MKC is nicer to hold, but they both do the job of pulling equally as well. I recommend saving yourself the price of shipping and getting the WASD. You can always buy a second one in the future :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:07:44
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:03:33
    How about the one EK (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,keytools&pid=leokp) sells? The wire looks thinner, like it could get into places easy. Maybe the handle is just bigger.  :-[

    There are very minor differences in all the pullers I have. I have a Filco, Ducky, WASD, and Techkeys puller. They will all work fine.

    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:00:04
    Yeah, small form factor.  I was looking at those, but am on a serious budget right now with baby coming in the next couple weeks.  I just sold my Ducky 1008C, and only have about $100 to spend including shipping. 

    The Pure cost me $95. But I think the price on MK.com is a bit more expensive. Hunt the Classifieds for a cheaper one?

    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:00:27
    The techkeys is worlds better than the WADS, true story. And the cherry keychain pullers are good and the mkc is very sweet, I like it the best.

    The MKC that Mashby saw looked and felt really cheap. Mashby said he broke his very easily. Seemed to be poor quality.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:18:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:07:44


    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:00:04
    Yeah, small form factor.  I was looking at those, but am on a serious budget right now with baby coming in the next couple weeks.  I just sold my Ducky 1008C, and only have about $100 to spend including shipping. 

    The Pure cost me $95. But I think the price on MK.com is a bit more expensive. Hunt the Classifieds for a cheaper one?



    Yeah, there is one with reds (and green led) in the classifieds right now, and there is a choc mini on OCN.  There are a few CM Rapids is various flavors as well, that is why I am trying to figure out which will suite me the best. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:20:37
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:18:48
    Yeah, there is one with reds (and green led) in the classifieds right now, and there is a choc mini on OCN.  There are a few CM Rapids is various flavors as well, that is why I am trying to figure out which will suite me the best.

    The Epsilon board was the first 75% board I really liked and bought. Besides that, I prefer 60% and TKL boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:24:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:20:37
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:18:48
    Yeah, there is one with reds (and green led) in the classifieds right now, and there is a choc mini on OCN.  There are a few CM Rapids is various flavors as well, that is why I am trying to figure out which will suite me the best.

    The Epsilon board was the first 75% board I really liked and bought. Besides that, I prefer 60% and TKL boards.

    I am leaning toward the TKL right now as I think I would be annoyed not being able to get complete sets of keycaps for it.  I like to tinker way too much, but on a budget (geekhack budget at least  ;))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:27:02
    Quote from: Badwrench on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:24:48
    I am leaning toward the TKL right now as I think I would be annoyed not being able to get complete sets of keycaps for it.  I like to tinker way too much, but on a budget (geekhack budget at least  ;))

    Well let us know what you get and how you like it ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:37:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:07:44
    The MKC that Mashby saw looked and felt really cheap. Mashby said he broke his very easily. Seemed to be poor quality.

    Really? I didn't use it all that much but it seemed to be ok.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gliy on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:57:32
    On kbdMania whenever I look at prices they are in a strange point system. Does anyone know the conversion rate from point to $?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:58:25
    Quote from: gliy on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:57:32
    On kbdMania whenever I look at prices they are in a strange point system. Does anyone know the conversion rate from point to $?

    I would assume the "Points" are Korean Wons. Go to Google and find the exchange rate for Korean Wons to $USD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gliy on Tue, 21 May 2013, 15:04:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:58:25
    Quote from: gliy on Tue, 21 May 2013, 14:57:32
    On kbdMania whenever I look at prices they are in a strange point system. Does anyone know the conversion rate from point to $?

    I would assume the "Points" are Korean Wons. Go to Google and find the exchange rate for Korean Wons to $USD.

    No its something that has a really low rate of transfer. ie: I've seen shipping cost .3, clickclacks(rare) at around 13 points, few others I'll lookup later
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 15:08:27
    Quote from: gliy on Tue, 21 May 2013, 15:04:56
    No its something that has a really low rate of transfer. ie: I've seen shipping cost .3, clickclacks(rare) at around 13 points, few others I'll lookup later

    Oh right, I think KBD is one of the communities that doesn't do profit or money. That must be how they circumvent using actual money. I'm not really sure how the conversion works then. Hopefully someone can educate us both ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 21 May 2013, 16:38:29
    I love that Leopold keypuller. It was the first one I bought, and though I've bought many more since then, I've never used them because there was never a need. The grip is sweet, and the shape of the wire indicates better pulling and getting into better places to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:05:19
    BIG ANNOUNCEMENT - WE'VE CRACKED THE TOP 10 LIST!! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)

    So as you all know, I started this a few months back after stealing it from TeamLiquid.net and then pitching it in IRC. In only three months, we've cracked ~1800 replies and 22000 views. This thread is now in the top ten most replied to posts on GeekHack! I wish I had some goodies to giveaway as a celebration but we'll just have to enjoy this moment together ^__^. Thanks to everyone who asked questions or has contributed an answer. Let's keep the knowledge bombs coming!

    (http://i.imgur.com/igECvRa.png)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:07:59
    Definitely an achievement for an amazing thread that has helped so many and will continue to. Good job, CPT, and everyone else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:17:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:05:19
    BIG ANNOUNCEMENT - WE'VE CRACKED THE TOP 10 LIST!! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)

    So as you all know, I started this a few months back after stealing it from TeamLiquid.net and then pitching it in IRC. In only three months, we've cracked ~1800 replies and 22000 views. This thread is now in the top ten most replied to posts on GeekHack! I wish I had some goodies to giveaway as a celebration but we'll just have to enjoy this moment together ^__^. Thanks to everyone who asked questions or has contributed an answer. Let's keep the knowledge bombs coming!

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/igECvRa.png)

    Nice!
    I've got two questions again today (I ask too many, don't I? lol)
    1.) What choices do I have for TKL boards with Cherry switches stabs (god im Stupid.)?
    2.) When desoldering a backlit keyboard do I also have to desolder the LEDS? If so how much time will this add to the process?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:24:54
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:17:59
    I've got two questions again today (I ask too many, don't I? lol)
    1.) What choices do I have for TKL boards with Cherry switches?
    2.) When desoldering a backlit keyboard do I also have to desolder the LEDS? If so how much time will this add to the process?

    There are a ton of options for TKL boards.  The general ones people gravitate towards are Ducky Pro TKL or Shine II TKL, Cooler Master QFRs, and the Keycool 87.  If you're willing to go smaller form factors, you've got keyboards like the Poker 2, KBTalking Pure, Deck 82, Keycool 84, Tex Beetle, Poker, GH60, etc.

    Yes, you have to desolder the LEDs.  How much time depends on the number of LEDs.  Assuming every key is backlit, it will double your time since you will be desoldering the two switch legs and the two LED legs.  But once you have them desoldered, you can get a modified plate and dremel the switch top and you'll never have to worry about desoldering LEDs again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:28:33
    Uhm, don't forget the excellent Leopold FC200R!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:41:46
    And the Filco Majestouch 2 TKL!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:44:32
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:17:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:05:19
    BIG ANNOUNCEMENT - WE'VE CRACKED THE TOP 10 LIST!! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats)

    So as you all know, I started this a few months back after stealing it from TeamLiquid.net and then pitching it in IRC. In only three months, we've cracked ~1800 replies and 22000 views. This thread is now in the top ten most replied to posts on GeekHack! I wish I had some goodies to giveaway as a celebration but we'll just have to enjoy this moment together ^__^. Thanks to everyone who asked questions or has contributed an answer. Let's keep the knowledge bombs coming!

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/igECvRa.png)

    Nice!
    I've got two questions again today (I ask too many, don't I? lol)
    1.) What choices do I have for TKL boards with Cherry switches?
    2.) When desoldering a backlit keyboard do I also have to desolder the LEDS? If so how much time will this add to the process?

    1) Check out this list of TKL and 60% boards (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38772.0) that Mashby compiled.

    2) Yes you have to desolder the LEDs. I would venture a guess of 45-120 minutes. Depends on your soldering skill level and how fast you work. ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:49:54
    accidental double post
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:50:23
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:24:54
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:17:59
    I've got two questions again today (I ask too many, don't I? lol)
    1.) What choices do I have for TKL boards with Cherry switches?
    2.) When desoldering a backlit keyboard do I also have to desolder the LEDS? If so how much time will this add to the process?

    There are a ton of options for TKL boards.  The general ones people gravitate towards are Ducky Pro TKL or Shine II TKL, Cooler Master QFRs, and the Keycool 87.  If you're willing to go smaller form factors, you've got keyboards like the Poker 2, KBTalking Pure, Deck 82, Keycool 84, Tex Beetle, Poker, GH60, etc.

    Yes, you have to desolder the LEDs.  How much time depends on the number of LEDs.  Assuming every key is backlit, it will double your time since you will be desoldering the two switch legs and the two LED legs.  But once you have them desoldered, you can get a modified plate and dremel the switch top and you'll never have to worry about desoldering LEDs again.
    I meant to ask TKL boards with cherry stabs, sorry.... also sorry about the double post.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:51:20
    For me, desoldering takes many times longer than soldering. (hours)  Maybe its because my soldering tools are so much better than my desoldering tools
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 21 May 2013, 18:08:32
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Tue, 21 May 2013, 17:51:20
    For me, desoldering takes many times longer than soldering. (hours)  Maybe its because my soldering tools are so much better than my desoldering tools

    What are you using to desolder?  My desoldering takes longer than soldering, but using a hand pump and my iron, it only takes me around 1.5-2x as long as soldering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 May 2013, 20:31:55
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 21 May 2013, 16:38:29
    I love that Leopold keypuller. It was the first one I bought, and though I've bought many more since then, I've never used them because there was never a need. The grip is sweet, and the shape of the wire indicates better pulling and getting into better places to me.

    great.....now I've got to find one of these  ???

    is this the only place to get one? -> http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,keytools&pid=leokp (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,keytools&pid=leokp)

    side note: anyone tried the soft/firm landing pads from EK? is there lube any good?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 20:36:18
    Seems like it buddy ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:09:48
    when using the second keyboard layout editor listed in the OP (the full size board) is there a way to remove keys and or resize keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:12:43
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:09:48
    when using the second keyboard layout editor listed in the OP (the full size board) is there a way to remove keys and or resize keys?

    I've actually had more success using the first layout generator. I still havent figured out the 2nd one.

    Edit: And I looked at your layouts before. It's the Pure layout with a moved delete. I like it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:46:26
    So does the ducky shine have cherry stabs? I thought I heard that mentioned somewhere but wasn't sure, and why do some people hate them so much?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:51:59
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:46:26
    So does the ducky shine have cherry stabs? I thought I heard that mentioned somewhere but wasn't sure, and why do some people hate them so much?

    What exactly do you think people hate? The Ducky or the Cherry Stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:03:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:51:59
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:46:26
    So does the ducky shine have cherry stabs? I thought I heard that mentioned somewhere but wasn't sure, and why do some people hate them so much?

    What exactly do you think people hate? The Ducky or the Cherry Stabs?
    Cherry stabs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:07:47
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:03:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:51:59
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:46:26
    So does the ducky shine have cherry stabs? I thought I heard that mentioned somewhere but wasn't sure, and why do some people hate them so much?

    What exactly do you think people hate? The Ducky or the Cherry Stabs?
    Cherry stabs

    I think the Cherry stabilizers feel mushy compared to the Costar stabilizers. To me, Costar feels a touch crisper.

    Edit: All Ducky boards have cherry stabs ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:13:26
    How do I stop spending money? Please help immediately
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:14:12
    Quote from: Sifo on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:13:26
    How do I stop spending money? Please help immediately

    Stop liking things, move into a cave, and play with the rocks and seaweed you find. Live a simple life. And sell me your LZ-S
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:20:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:07:47
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:03:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:51:59

    I think the Cherry stabilizers feel mushy compared to the Costar stabilizers. To me, Costar feels a touch crisper.

    Edit: All Ducky boards have cherry stabs ^__^

    Now I'm gonna be all self concious
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 22:39:03
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Computer-PC-Keyboard-PS-2-mechanical-clicky-KeyBoard-NEC-APC-H412-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$T2eC16R,!yUE9s6NFHziBQR6noRYsg~~60_3.JPG)
    Anyone know what switch this is?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 21 May 2013, 23:15:37
    NEC? I think? Or bigfoot ALPS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 21 May 2013, 23:29:47
    Looks like the NEC tactile clicky switches (pictured here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=27998.0)), but at the same time, it looks like it doesn't have the nib that the NEC does.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 21 May 2013, 23:53:45
    Just out of curiosity, does the lego ''cross'' fits the cherry MX stem (question mark, for some reason the tablet can't regconize the shift key+/ combo)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 05:36:49
    Anybody has got an idea if this one could be a mechanical?
    (http://abload.de/img/t2ec16d0e9s37hlepbrlkqilri.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:06:24
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 21 May 2013, 23:53:45
    Just out of curiosity, does the lego ''cross'' fits the cherry MX stem (question mark, for some reason the tablet can't regconize the shift key+/ combo)

    The bottom of most Lego pieces are round circles. No cross or x that would fit an MX stem. I don't think I have any like Technic pieces which might be MX compatible. I assume you don't have any either or else you would have tried it.

    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 05:36:49
    Anybody has got an idea if this one could be a mechanical?
    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/t2ec16d0e9s37hlepbrlkqilri.jpg)


    Going to take a wild guess and say it looks like a scissor switch board. But it also kinda looks like an Apple AEK which has Salmon Alps switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:13:03
    It has an AT plug, I guess I will place a bid later and see what I get ;) Any further suggestions, and thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:18:10
    Ask the seller to remove a key and take a picture.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HongKongFui on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:21:27
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:18:10
    Ask the seller to remove a key and take a picture.

    I always do that. Out of 10PMs at least 7 answer: I don't want to destroy anything...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:26:13
    Yep, I have pretty much given it up. Doesn't matter, I have always been successful with my guesses, never had a rubberdome in the mail.^^ I guess I will give it a shot. And even if it's a rubberdome (which I don't believe, look at the height of those caps), it's a nice old one, with a non-standard layout, so it would still be a cool addition to my collection.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 07:00:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:06:24
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 21 May 2013, 23:53:45
    Just out of curiosity, does the lego ''cross'' fits the cherry MX stem (question mark, for some reason the tablet can't regconize the shift key+/ combo)

    The bottom of most Lego pieces are round circles. No cross or x that would fit an MX stem. I don't think I have any like Technic pieces which might be MX compatible. I assume you don't have any either or else you would have tried it.

    I think s/he meant the pieces with the crosses on the sides.  See this: https://www.thedailybrick.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/700x700/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/e/lego_technic__brick_1_x_2_with_axle_hole_32064darkred.png
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 07:16:06
    Quote from: ping111 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 07:00:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:06:24
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 21 May 2013, 23:53:45
    Just out of curiosity, does the lego ''cross'' fits the cherry MX stem (question mark, for some reason the tablet can't regconize the shift key+/ combo)

    The bottom of most Lego pieces are round circles. No cross or x that would fit an MX stem. I don't think I have any like Technic pieces which might be MX compatible. I assume you don't have any either or else you would have tried it.

    I think s/he meant the pieces with the crosses on the sides.  See this: http://bit.ly/10PggVJ

    I couldn't find any of those pieces quickly. I think linziyi wanted to try and put them on MX caps so that s/he could have Lego Ninja Turtles to go with the Ninja Turtle set i3oilermaker is running.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 May 2013, 15:14:37
    Ok so where is the thread with pictures showing the difference in the profile (height) of different keys and where is the one that shows what rows are called what on the keyboard when buying keys?

    If it is in the OP I didn't ready it :P

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 16:45:38
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 22 May 2013, 15:14:37
    Ok so where is the thread with pictures showing the difference in the profile (height) of different keys and where is the one that shows what rows are called what on the keyboard when buying keys?

    If it is in the OP I didn't ready it :P

    Not sure if there is one for differences in heights but there is this link from WASD (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/resources/keycap-layout) that shows rows. That being said, different companies call the rows different things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 May 2013, 16:47:18
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 22 May 2013, 15:14:37
    Ok so where is the thread with pictures showing the difference in the profile (height) of different keys and where is the one that shows what rows are called what on the keyboard when buying keys?

    If it is in the OP I didn't ready it :P



    Maybe this page from Signature Plastics is what you're looking for?

    http://keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mauri on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:49:47
    How big is realforces spacebar? Not sure what kind of measurements they use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:52:30
    Quote from: mauri on Wed, 22 May 2013, 17:49:47
    How big is realforces spacebar? Not sure what kind of measurements they use.

    The jwaz said that the sizing should be 6x.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 22 May 2013, 20:01:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 06:06:24
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 21 May 2013, 23:53:45
    Just out of curiosity, does the lego ''cross'' fits the cherry MX stem (question mark, for some reason the tablet can't regconize the shift key+/ combo)

    The bottom of most Lego pieces are round circles. No cross or x that would fit an MX stem. I don't think I have any like Technic pieces which might be MX compatible. I assume you don't have any either or else you would have tried it.



    I gave away all my lego to my younger cousins when I moved to US :/

    And yes I was talking about those technic piece, will try if I have a chance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueMica on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:13:40
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 22 May 2013, 15:14:37
    Ok so where is the thread with pictures showing the difference in the profile (height) of different keys and where is the one that shows what rows are called what on the keyboard when buying keys?

    If it is in the OP I didn't ready it :P
    I think this is the one that comes to my mind, when referencing keycap profiles. "http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keyboard_profile"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:16:58
    where do i pick up my 1k post prize?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:19:15
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:16:58
    where do i pick up my 1k post prize?

    I didn't get one, why should you?? :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:23:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:19:15
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:16:58
    where do i pick up my 1k post prize?

    I didn't get one, why should you?? :P

    i was told there was a prize
    there is no prize
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:26:08
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:23:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:19:15
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:16:58
    where do i pick up my 1k post prize?

    I didn't get one, why should you?? :P

    i was told there was a prize
    there is no prize

    Some places give you custom titles or cooler names the more post
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:27:42
    The prize, the milestone is, young padawan.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:33:55
    The cake is a lie
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:59:10
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:33:55
    The cake is a lie

    Wait...... there is....... NO....CAKE!!! :o
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 23:22:28
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:27:42
    The prize, the milestone is, young padawan.
    :3 lessons learned
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:33:55
    The cake is a lie
    so now there's no prize or cake?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 22 May 2013, 23:53:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:19:15
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:16:58
    where do i pick up my 1k post prize?

    I didn't get one, why should you?? :P
    Because I have 5 of them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 23 May 2013, 00:15:04
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 22 May 2013, 23:53:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:19:15
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:16:58
    where do i pick up my 1k post prize?

    I didn't get one, why should you?? :P
    Because I have 5 of them?
    Small does indeed have 5 :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GON on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:23:41
    What shall I do to attach an image or images directly from my local computer?
    I tried to post some pics of my Keyboardworks, but I couldn't. ;(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:26:31
    Quote from: GON on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:23:41
    What shall I do to attach an image or images directly from my local computer?
    I tried to post some pics of my Keyboardworks, but I couldn't. ;(
    Below the text box it says 'attachments and other options'. Click that, then browse to find what you want to attach and press post. If you want to add more than one press 'more attachments'.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GON on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:40:15
    Oh... Thanks Photekq. ;')
    Now I know how.

    As this.... ?


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GON on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:41:07
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:26:31
    Quote from: GON on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:23:41
    What shall I do to attach an image or images directly from my local computer?
    I tried to post some pics of my Keyboardworks, but I couldn't. ;(
    Below the text box it says 'attachments and other options'. Click that, then browse to find what you want to attach and press post. If you want to add more than one press 'more attachments'.

    Thanks again. ;)
    It worx!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:38:50
    say I wanted to get a set of imsto 'thick' pbt caps....but I wanted to put them on an ansi150 phantom.....what to do about spacebar and modifiers?? anything that matches out there??

    if this is an obvious thing I apologize....its early, I've had little sleep this week
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:41:29
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:38:50
    say I wanted to get a set of imsto 'thick' pbt caps....but I wanted to put them on an ansi150 phantom.....what to do about spacebar and modifiers?? anything that matches out there??

    if this is an obvious thing I apologize....its early, I've had little sleep this week

    Hm. I actually never thought of this. Does anyone know if Imsto sells Tsangan kits?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:45:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:41:29
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:38:50
    say I wanted to get a set of imsto 'thick' pbt caps....but I wanted to put them on an ansi150 phantom.....what to do about spacebar and modifiers?? anything that matches out there??

    if this is an obvious thing I apologize....its early, I've had little sleep this week

    Hm. I actually never thought of this. Does anyone know if Imsto sells Tsangan kits?

    don't think he does Tsangan kits :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:49:00
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:45:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:41:29
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:38:50
    say I wanted to get a set of imsto 'thick' pbt caps....but I wanted to put them on an ansi150 phantom.....what to do about spacebar and modifiers?? anything that matches out there??

    if this is an obvious thing I apologize....its early, I've had little sleep this week

    Hm. I actually never thought of this. Does anyone know if Imsto sells Tsangan kits?

    don't think he does Tsangan kits :(


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:41:29
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:38:50
    say I wanted to get a set of imsto 'thick' pbt caps....but I wanted to put them on an ansi150 phantom.....what to do about spacebar and modifiers?? anything that matches out there??

    if this is an obvious thing I apologize....its early, I've had little sleep this week

    Hm. I actually never thought of this. Does anyone know if Imsto sells Tsangan kits?

    I'm pretty sure imsto does not I guess I was wondering if there was another out there that would halfway match up or whatever  ???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:55:33
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:49:00
    I'm pretty sure imsto does not I guess I was wondering if there was another out there that would halfway match up or whatever  ???

    I don't think so. Maybe Lysol/IvanIvan's current buy has some that would help you out? I don't think so though...and I never heard of anyone else that had thick PBT Tsangan.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:58:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:55:33
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:49:00
    I'm pretty sure imsto does not I guess I was wondering if there was another out there that would halfway match up or whatever  ???

    I don't think so. Maybe Lysol/IvanIvan's current buy has some that would help you out? I don't think so though...and I never heard of anyone else that had thick PBT Tsangan.

    hmm ok well I have yet to try thick pbt anything :p

    so maybe I should just avoid it and I won't know what I'm missing

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:06:02
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:58:01
    hmm ok well I have yet to try thick pbt anything :p

    so maybe I should just avoid it and I won't know what I'm missing

    Well as you know, I have that tour coming up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) so you'll be able to try some. But now I'm curious. Is there a tsangan kit for thick pbt caps? Does anyone know?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:07:31
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:58:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:55:33
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:49:00
    I'm pretty sure imsto does not I guess I was wondering if there was another out there that would halfway match up or whatever  ???

    I don't think so. Maybe Lysol/IvanIvan's current buy has some that would help you out? I don't think so though...and I never heard of anyone else that had thick PBT Tsangan.

    hmm ok well I have yet to try thick pbt anything :p

    so maybe I should just avoid it and I won't know what I'm missing

    Avoid Imsto Thick PBT? Impossibru!!

    Edit - I'll actually be a little sad if you never try it :(

    Edit 2 - You should get an additional keyboard :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:06:02
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:58:01
    hmm ok well I have yet to try thick pbt anything :p

    so maybe I should just avoid it and I won't know what I'm missing

    Well as you know, I have that tour coming up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) so you'll be able to try some. But now I'm curious. Is there a tsangan kit for thick pbt caps? Does anyone know/

    maybe we need to get this made :o

    Quote from: Jocelyn on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:07:31
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:58:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:55:33
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:49:00
    I'm pretty sure imsto does not I guess I was wondering if there was another out there that would halfway match up or whatever  ???

    I don't think so. Maybe Lysol/IvanIvan's current buy has some that would help you out? I don't think so though...and I never heard of anyone else that had thick PBT Tsangan.

    hmm ok well I have yet to try thick pbt anything :p

    so maybe I should just avoid it and I won't know what I'm missing

    Avoid Imsto Thick PBT? Impossibru!!

    Edit - I'll actually be a little sad if you never try it :(

    Edit 2 - You should get an additional keyboard :D

    I've already got three :P

    just my ducky has 108 keys and i would be OCD about those four odd ball keys.....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:16:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:06:02
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:58:01
    hmm ok well I have yet to try thick pbt anything :p

    so maybe I should just avoid it and I won't know what I'm missing

    Well as you know, I have that tour coming up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) so you'll be able to try some. But now I'm curious. Is there a tsangan kit for thick pbt caps? Does anyone know?

    Nope. Everyone wants it, but there is none yet. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:17:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    Well as you know, I have that tour coming up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) so you'll be able to try some. But now I'm curious. Is there a tsangan kit for thick pbt caps? Does anyone know/

    maybe we need to get this made :eek:

    I know Signature Plastics sells blank pbt caps in different sizes. I'm not sure if they're thick and I don't know if they sell caps that are pbt and printed. And JD gave us our answer so maybe someone should run a IC/GB ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:20:56
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    I've already got three :P

    just my ducky has 108 keys and i would be OCD about those four odd ball keys.....

    The four in the upper right? There are TONS of R4 (E) Thick PBT caps that would work with them. Zelda hearts for example, but there are many others and Imsto has a lot of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:24:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:17:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    Well as you know, I have that tour coming up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) so you'll be able to try some. But now I'm curious. Is there a tsangan kit for thick pbt caps? Does anyone know/

    maybe we need to get this made :eek:

    I know Signature Plastics sells blank pbt caps in different sizes. I'm not sure if they're thick and I don't know if they sell caps that are pbt and printed. And JD gave us our answer so maybe someone should run a IC/GB ^__^

    SP has some blank DCS 1.5x row4 (bottom row) PBT caps in stock. The two white ones are WAN and WFJ. They also have some 7x DCS ABS spacebars in WFK, WFO, WCK, and WEA.

    http://keycapsdirect.com/inventorypdfs/DCSABSInventory.pdf

    http://keycapsdirect.com/inventorypdfs/DCSPBTInventory.pdf
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:31:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:17:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    Well as you know, I have that tour coming up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) so you'll be able to try some. But now I'm curious. Is there a tsangan kit for thick pbt caps? Does anyone know/

    maybe we need to get this made :eek:

    I know Signature Plastics sells blank pbt caps in different sizes. I'm not sure if they're thick and I don't know if they sell caps that are pbt and printed. And JD gave us our answer so maybe CPTBad@$$ should run a IC/GB ^__^

    good idea sir  8)



    Quote from: Jocelyn on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:20:56
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    I've already got three :p

    just my ducky has 108 keys and i would be OCD about those four odd ball keys.....

    The four in the upper right? There are TONS of R4 (E) Thick PBT caps that would work with them. Zelda hearts for example, but there are many others and Imsto has a lot of them.

    I just don't know about the color matching or looking really weird  ???

     
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:24:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:17:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    Well as you know, I have that tour coming up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) so you'll be able to try some. But now I'm curious. Is there a tsangan kit for thick pbt caps? Does anyone know/

    maybe we need to get this made :o

    I know Signature Plastics sells blank pbt caps in different sizes. I'm not sure if they're thick and I don't know if they sell caps that are pbt and printed. And JD gave us our answer so maybe someone should run a IC/GB ^__^

    SP has some blank DCS 1.5x row4 (bottom row) PBT caps in stock. The two white ones are WAN and WFJ. They also have some 7x DCS ABS spacebars in WFK, WFO, WCK, and WEA.

    http://keycapsdirect.com/inventorypdfs/DCSABSInventory.pdf (http://keycapsdirect.com/inventorypdfs/DCSABSInventory.pdf)

    http://keycapsdirect.com/inventorypdfs/DCSPBTInventory.pdf (http://keycapsdirect.com/inventorypdfs/DCSPBTInventory.pdf)

    thanks for the info jd
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:33:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:31:45
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:20:56
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    I've already got three :p

    just my ducky has 108 keys and i would be OCD about those four odd ball keys.....

    The four in the upper right? There are TONS of R4 (E) Thick PBT caps that would work with them. Zelda hearts for example, but there are many others and Imsto has a lot of them.

    I just don't know about the color matching or looking really weird  ???

    I understand, but Imsto caps only come in blue, gray, and white (beige& white sets too). All the R4 caps mentioned above are one of those colors and most are white.

    I was kidding when I said you needed to try it, but I do want you to know there are options out there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:40:25
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:33:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:31:45
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:20:56
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    I've already got three :p

    just my ducky has 108 keys and i would be OCD about those four odd ball keys.....

    The four in the upper right? There are TONS of R4 (E) Thick PBT caps that would work with them. Zelda hearts for example, but there are many others and Imsto has a lot of them.

    I just don't know about the color matching or looking really weird  ???

    I understand, but Imsto caps only come in blue, gray, and white (beige& white sets too). All the R4 caps mentioned above are one of those colors and most are white.

    I was kidding when I said you needed to try it, but I do want you to know there are options out there.

    and I do so very badly want to try it and I'm wanting to get black on gray and didn't think the white would look right.... 8)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:43:29
    So get four of these (I realize you don't have YOTD) - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w17-4996320547.35.kVle4Y&id=18129840144&

    Or one of many other designs he has, put onto a gray cap lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:43:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:31:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:17:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    Well as you know, I have that tour coming up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) so you'll be able to try some. But now I'm curious. Is there a tsangan kit for thick pbt caps? Does anyone know/

    maybe we need to get this made :eek:

    I know Signature Plastics sells blank pbt caps in different sizes. I'm not sure if they're thick and I don't know if they sell caps that are pbt and printed. And JD gave us our answer so maybe CPTBad@$$ should run a IC/GB ^__^

    good idea sir  8)

    I see what you did there...And unfortunately, I'd love to run a GB but I don't have the time for it. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:46:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:43:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:31:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:17:58
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:15:32
    Well as you know, I have that tour coming up (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39883.0) so you'll be able to try some. But now I'm curious. Is there a tsangan kit for thick pbt caps? Does anyone know/

    maybe we need to get this made :o

    I know Signature Plastics sells blank pbt caps in different sizes. I'm not sure if they're thick and I don't know if they sell caps that are pbt and printed. And JD gave us our answer so maybe CPTBad@$$ should run a IC/GB ^__^

    good idea sir  8)

    I see what you did there...And unfortunately, I'd love to run a GB but I don't have the time for it. :(

    me neither....time....oh if I could 'buy' more of that  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: knotra on Thu, 23 May 2013, 22:59:29
    how is the Leopold FC660C and topre keyboards in general for gaming? (starcraft 2 to be precise)

    also, whats the average life cycle on topre keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 May 2013, 23:12:50
    Quote from: knotra on Thu, 23 May 2013, 22:59:29
    how is the Leopold FC660C and topre keyboards in general for gaming? (starcraft 2 to be precise)

    also, whats the average life cycle on topre keyboards?

    Please refer to the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 23 May 2013, 23:46:14
    So there is no way to switch stems on a Filco without solder/desolder?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 23 May 2013, 23:54:20
    Nope.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 24 May 2013, 03:06:38
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 23 May 2013, 23:54:20
    Nope.
    Balls! Oh well, I guess it's time for me to get a Hakko fx888! Thanks WFD!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 24 May 2013, 05:46:15
    One of these (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.0) plates will allow you to remove switches without desoldering on almost every TKL, but the initial installation still requires you to desolder and solder the switches on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 24 May 2013, 06:05:21
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 24 May 2013, 05:46:15
    One of these (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.0) plates will allow you to remove switches without desoldering on almost every TKL, but the initial installation still requires you to desolder and solder the switches on.
    I suppose I'll have to do some more classified huntin! Thanks WFD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 24 May 2013, 06:18:23
    What are you trying to change your switches to?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 24 May 2013, 06:26:23
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 24 May 2013, 06:18:23
    What are you trying to change your switches to?
    GREENS!!! or Whites. Which ever shows up first! I can find Filco TKL all day long, not with the switches I want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Fri, 24 May 2013, 07:33:22
    What is the reputation of Feng Metallic keycaps (http://stores.ebay.com/Somefeng-Geeky/_i.html?rt=nc&_sid=987669357&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=1)? Is there any reviews that I can look at?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 07:35:54
    Quote from: linziyi on Fri, 24 May 2013, 07:33:22
    What is the reputation of Feng Metallic keycaps (http://stores.ebay.com/Somefeng-Geeky/_i.html?rt=nc&_sid=987669357&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=1)? Is there any reviews that I can look at?

    They're pretty popular. I know for a fact that missalaire has a feng dragon cap and I have some zinc and aluminum caps myself. They're heavy so on lighter switches the actuation feels weird since the caps are so heavy. And the quality of the caps that I have at least are very nice. I'm not sure if the stuff I have are feng or not though. I've also bought other things from feng and they were very nice: good quality and he's got some really cool stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 24 May 2013, 07:38:34
    They're made by MKC.  The original sets were too tight on the switches, newer ones fixed that problem.  I have one, it's pretty nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 24 May 2013, 07:38:51
    Quote from: GON on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:41:07
    Thanks again. ;)
    It worx!!
    No problem. Glad you got it working :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:32:05
    Where can I find a Poker 2 PBT? I live in Australia. Is it fully programmable? Thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:34:00
    Quote from: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:32:05
    Where can I find a Poker 2 PBT? I live in Australia. Is it fully programmable? Thanks :)

    not fully programmable, but you can find the Poker 2 PBT at MK.com
    not sure if PBT will be available at techkeys, but they will be stocking the poker 2 as well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:34:41
    Quote from: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:32:05
    Where can I find a Poker 2 PBT? I live in Australia. Is it fully programmable? Thanks :)

    Unsure. Maybe try PCCaseGear. I wasn't aware that it was out already. And no, I don't think it's programmable at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:03
    Yep the PBT will be coming to Techkeys. And they do international for free on orders over $50 :D


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:11
    I thought the Poker 2 was fully programmable...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:36:52
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:34:00
    Quote from: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:32:05
    Where can I find a Poker 2 PBT? I live in Australia. Is it fully programmable? Thanks :)

    not fully programmable, but you can find the Poker 2 PBT at MK.com
    not sure if PBT will be available at techkeys, but they will be stocking the poker 2 as well

    Ta for the fast response? Not fully? So there are switches at the bottom? The link you referred me to took me to a some gov site. Doesn't the board come stock with thick PBT caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:39:33
    Here lies irrefutable proof that the Poker II is programmable.

    Here is one of the pages from the official PDF manual.

    Edit: I have attached the entire manual if you want that too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:40:00
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:03
    Yep the PBT will be coming to Techkeys.  And they do international for free on orders over $50 :D

    Ooo, I didn't know that. Thanks!

    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:11
    I thought the Poker 2 was fully programmable...?

    If you link me to the info I will apologize for giving false info and wear the cone of shame :D

    Edit: I don the cone of shame. It is programmable. Sorry!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:43:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:40:00
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:03
    Yep the PBT will be coming to Techkeys.  And they do international for free on orders over $50 :D

    Ooo, I didn't know that. Thanks!

    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:11
    I thought the Poker 2 was fully programmable...?

    If you link me to the info I will apologize for giving false info and wear the cone of shame :D

    Edit: I don the cone of shame. It is programmable. Sorry!
    Hi Dug. :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:50:23
    Thanks again. So would it be possible to map the arrow keys to P,L, ; , ' on a separate layer? Does the Poker come with a plate? The sheet says both ABS and PBT. Not sure which one or perhaps both?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:51:31
    I know it is plate mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:52:22
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:51:31
    I know it is plate mounted.

    You know this? I thought there was some debate as to whether it was actually plate mounted or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:53:28
    Quote from: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:50:23
    1) So would it be possible to map the arrow keys to P,L, ; , ' on a separate layer?

    2) The sheet says both ABS and PBT. Not sure which one or perhaps both?

    1) If it's programmable, I don't see why not.

    2) ABS and PBT refer to the caps. You don't get to pick the plate material.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:53:50
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:52:22
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:51:31
    I know it is plate mounted.

    You know this? I thought there was some debate as to whether it was actually plate mounted or not.

    I think the debate was whether or not the plate allowed for removable switch tops, but I might be wrong about this :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:53:51
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:52:22
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:51:31
    I perhaps know it is plate mounted.

    You know this? I thought there was some debate as to whether it was actually plate mounted or not.
    Heheh, fixed? i3 and Qtan both confirmed it being plate mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:58:15
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:11
    I thought the Poker 2 was fully programmable...?
    nopee
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:58:55
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:58:15
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:11
    I thought the Poker 2 was fully programmable...?
    nopee
    It is, check above.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:59:22
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:58:15
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:11
    I thought the Poker 2 was fully programmable...?
    nopee

    It is. LastPilot linked the manual that said you could.

    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:39:33
    Here is one of the pages from the official PDF manual.

    Edit: I have attached the entire manual if you want that too.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:00:50
    Answering a question a few pages ago... Cherry 1.5 PBT dyesub is possible from BSP. There was recent groupbuys for RGB sets which would probably be easiest to get your hands on and most suitable. Otherwise, it would always be possible to scrouge some off an older G80 winkeyless with lasered legends if you are not too fussy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:00:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:59:22
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:58:15
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:35:11
    I thought the Poker 2 was fully programmable...?
    nopee
    It is. LastPilot linked the manual that said you could.

     :)) when it was announced word was that it was not lol
    haven't heard much since then
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:02:15
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:53:50
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:52:22
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:51:31
    I know it is plate mounted.

    You know this? I thought there was some debate as to whether it was actually plate mounted or not.

    I think the debate was whether or not the plate allowed for removable switch tops, but I might be wrong about this :)

    It wasn't but that is my next question. If the board has thick PBT caps then this might be a buy. I know the font choice is questionable but I like it. Also, still not sure where to buy from?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:06:33
    I suggested earlier that Techkeys.us would be a good choice for you since international shipping would be free.

    Lol I guess today my posts just aren't sticking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:06:44
    i3oilermaker and Qtan just ran GBs for them. I think Techkeys picked up a few to sell.
    Edit: Ninja'd by LastPilot. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:11:18
    My mistake, it looks like Techkeys is not running the "Over 50$ purchase = free dom/int shipping" for the keyboards. It looks like shipping would be an extra $55. A thousand pardons.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:15:20
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:00:50
    Answering a question a few pages ago... Cherry 1.5 PBT dyesub is possible from BSP. There was recent groupbuys for RGB sets which would probably be easiest to get your hands on and most suitable. Otherwise, it would always be possible to scrouge some off an older G80 winkeyless with lasered legends if you are not too fussy.

    What models would have the 1.5x mods?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:18:16
    Lots of different ones, just look around for old winkeyless models like this one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-D-91275-PS-2-Keyboard-G81-3000LPDUS-00-/271156209116?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f222b65dc)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:20:12
    Hehe, thanks for the Cherry knowledge bombs as usual Ivan :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:21:10
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 09:39:33
    Here lies irrefutable proof that the Poker II is programmable.

    Here is one of the pages from the official PDF manual.

    Edit: I have attached the entire manual if you want that too.
    I LOL'd at the bold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:21:58
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:11:18
    My mistake, it looks like Techkeys is not running the "Over 50$ purchase = free dom/int shipping" for the keyboards. It looks like shipping would be an extra $55. A thousand pardons.

    Damn, Don't worry dude. Thanks anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:22:18
    LastPilot really likes that programming. But wait, are you sure it's programmable?  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:28:22
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:21:10
    I LOL'd at the bold.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:22:18
    LastPilot really likes that programming. But wait, are you sure it's programmable?  :p

    Yeah man. People gotta know. The Poker II is programmable. I mean I love the GH60 as much as the next guy but we can't keep ducking our heads in the sand. It exists. Vortex has counterattacked the GH60.

    I personally only like it because I'm too lazy to install a full set of LEDs on a GH60.

    And yeah I was lol-ing while I made that bold edit.

    Edit: Let me double check that one more time. Yep. Poker II is still programmable LOL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:29:29
    Wait. Did you just talk smack about the GH60? Don't make me get the Vulcan-Wizard in here :P. Please, someone put this back on topic :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:34:44
    YAH MAN. I hate that GH60. Especially the stupid logo that they chose for it. I don't even....


    And for those that still haven't read it:
    (http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/38148305.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:38:18
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:34:44
    YAH MAN. I hate that GH60. Especially the stupid logo that they chose for it. I don't even....


    And for those that still haven't read it:
    Show Image
    (http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/38148305.jpg)


    ^^ haha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:45:24
    Um, btw, guys please don't start answering simple questions with simple memes. I don't want to be responsible for the downfall of this thread. It was just a one-time thing, promise.

    NOWWW I have a question:
    Has there been any news about when the backlit Poker IIs are coming? I cannot find anything on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:47:57
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:34:44
    the stupid logo that they chose for it

    The GH60 are secure in their supremacy. We are nonplussed. Does the Poker 2 offer customizable layouts based upon user preference? We didn't think so.

    Yes, the GH60 speak in the Royal 'We.'
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:49:37
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:28:22
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:21:10
    I LOL'd at the bold.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:22:18
    LastPilot really likes that programming. But wait, are you sure it's programmable?  :p

    Yeah man. People gotta know. The Poker II is programmable. I mean I love the GH60 as much as the next guy but we can't keep ducking our heads in the sand. It exists. Vortex has counterattacked the GH60.

    I personally only like it because I'm too lazy to install a full set of LEDs on a GH60.

    Too much money for me.  :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:52:37
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:45:24
    Too much money for me.  :'(

    The GH60 PCB was $30 and there was an acrylic case for $30. Plus assembly for like $20-30. It's the same price as a Poker 2?

    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:45:24
    Um, btw, guys please don't start answering simple questions with simple memes. I don't want to be responsible for the downfall of this thread. It was just a one-time thing, promise.

    NOWWW I have a question:
    Has there been any news about when the backlit Poker IIs are coming? I cannot find anything on it.


    Yes, please don't add memes to the thread anymore ^__^

    And I haven't seen any info on the backlit Poker 2 either.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:56:44
    The GH60 PCB was $30 and there was an acrylic case for $30. Plus assembly for like $20-30. It's the same price as a Poker 2?

    + Thick PBT caps + switches? Fairly sure I worked it out to be more than that any how?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:58:35
    Quote from: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:56:44
    The GH60 PCB was $30 and there was an acrylic case for $30. Plus assembly for like $20-30. It's the same price as a Poker 2?

    + Thick PBT caps + switches? Fairly sure I worked it out to be more than that any how?

    Oops, forgot that not everyone has extra caps like I do. You're right. More cone of shame action going on right here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 24 May 2013, 11:03:30
    I think Vortex's definition of "Thick PBT" may be different from imsto's. I highly doubt these PBT will be like imsto's thick PBT. Don't know if that matters to you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 11:04:42
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 24 May 2013, 11:03:30
    I think Vortex's definition of "Thick PBT" may be different from imsto's. I highly doubt these PBT will be like imsto's thick PBT. Don't know if that matters to you.

    Agreed. The Vortex caps I have are pretty thin. The PBT caps off my FC700R are about as thick as the imsto caps though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LollyWater on Fri, 24 May 2013, 11:24:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 11:04:42
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 24 May 2013, 11:03:30
    I think Vortex's definition of "Thick PBT" may be different from imsto's. I highly doubt these PBT will be like imsto's thick PBT. Don't know if that matters to you.

    Agreed. The Vortex caps I have are pretty thin. The PBT caps off my FC700R are about as thick as the imsto caps though.

    Yeah, I've been hoping for "IMSTO" thick caps. The FC700R did it right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 12:59:05
    GH60 can be cheap if you know what you are doing in parts sourcing. I can do it for total build cost of like $75ish (maybe even less depending on deals) without much trouble. The most trouble is getting old stock Pure/Poker cases to keep that cost down. Finding old G80 to take everything else from for cheap is not so hard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:15:32
    Where do you find those cheap G80s?  All the ones I see are at least $75 anywhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 24 May 2013, 14:03:36
    Yes I noticed that, too. Ivan may find it easy to acquire those, but I sure don't
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 15:09:56
    It help a lot when you know all the other rebranded ones to search on :p and search internationally. US ebay has been pretty dry for awhile though it's true. Also don't be afraid of taobao, just very cautious.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 24 May 2013, 15:31:15
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 15:09:56
    It help a lot when you know all the other rebranded ones to search on :p and search internationally. US ebay has been pretty dry for awhile though it's true. Also don't be afraid of taobao, just very cautious.

    Taobao and I are great friends, just not Bhiner and I right now.  Want to give the newbies like me a point in the right direction with regards to rebranded ones and the like?  Or is that a closely guarded secret for you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 16:30:08
    Amiga, Commodore, Apricot, Peacock, NCR, Alcatel, WEY, Scitex, Meto, Olivetti, TA, Nixdorf, Goupil, Blaupunkt, APC, Compaq, etc... some are G80 or G81 only and they didn't use Cherry for any extended period, only certain models so use care. Most of them will be identical to either some variant of 1000, 1800 or 3000 series but there are some unique models as well. Also some were not completely oem'd by Cherry but use their doubleshots or dyesubs on MX or MY switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LollyWater on Sat, 25 May 2013, 00:29:50
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 May 2013, 12:59:05
    GH60 can be cheap if you know what you are doing in parts sourcing. I can do it for total build cost of like $75ish (maybe even less depending on deals) without much trouble. The most trouble is getting old stock Pure/Poker cases to keep that cost down. Finding old G80 to take everything else from for cheap is not so hard.

    Total? Caps and all? Wow
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:33:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:52:37
    The GH60 PCB was $30 and there was an acrylic case for $30. Plus assembly for like $20-30. It's the same price as a Poker 2?

    Which one was that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 25 May 2013, 02:25:36
    Quote from: dnix on Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:33:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 10:52:37
    The GH60 PCB was $30 and there was an acrylic case for $30. Plus assembly for like $20-30. It's the same price as a Poker 2?

    Which one was that?

    This one from Ali: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 25 May 2013, 03:57:20
    Oh, you mean the $45 case... ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 May 2013, 04:37:53
    Thought that Takaki's case was going to be about $30
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 04:45:11
    Takaki's doing a gh60 case? I thought he was just doing a TKL one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:30:32
    Oh youre right. I blame my stupidity on posting at 5 am or whatever ungodly hour I was at the aiport ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ominorvas on Sat, 25 May 2013, 08:29:18
    I bought a CM storm QFR with browns, and I liked it at first, but after using it for a couple months I wish it had more tactility, so I was thinking about blues.
    I do type quite a lot, but I also play a lot of games, so my question is: are blues still good for gaming?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 25 May 2013, 08:32:46
    Quote from: Ominorvas on Sat, 25 May 2013, 08:29:18
    I bought a CM storm QFR with browns, and I liked it at first, but after using it for a couple months I wish it had more tactility, so I was thinking about blues.
    I do type quite a lot, but I also play a lot of games, so my question is: are blues still good for gaming?

    Any switch is good for any application. It's more a question of user preference
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 May 2013, 08:34:22
    Quote from: Ominorvas on Sat, 25 May 2013, 08:29:18
    I do type quite a lot, but I also play a lot of games, so my question is: are blues still good for gaming?

    If you like Blues, play video games with Blues. Its all personal preference. I promise you wont be a better gamer if you get X switch. If there was a magical gamer switch, we'd all have the same switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 25 May 2013, 10:23:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 May 2013, 08:34:22
    Quote from: Ominorvas on Sat, 25 May 2013, 08:29:18
    I do type quite a lot, but I also play a lot of games, so my question is: are blues still good for gaming?

    If you like Blues, play video games with Blues. Its all personal preference. I promise you wont be a better gamer if you get X switch. If there was a magical gamer switch, we'd all have the same switch.

    Exactly this.  I game with Blues because I like the feel of them.  Do be prepared to have team mates say something about all the noise coming from your mic though.  I used to play a lot of SC2, and had a desktop mic.  You can guess the results  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:33:20
    And if Blues are too loud you can try looking for Whites. Just make sure they are actually MX White and not Clears. There has been some recent confusion about this, since they call clears MX Milk in Asia.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:53:13
    Guys, please, I'm looking for cad sources to build an acrylic case to accommodate a few projects that I'm working on ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: daerid on Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:57:13
    Can we at least try to get this thread back on topic?

    (See, simple question)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 25 May 2013, 12:22:56
    Will a qfr top fit on a filco bottom?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Sat, 25 May 2013, 12:32:23
    Quote from: daerid on Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:57:13
    Can we at least try to get this thread back on topic?

    (See, simple question)
    It's kinda hard to classify what's an "simple question". IMHO ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 May 2013, 13:19:10
    Quote from: agodinhost on Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:53:13
    Guys, please, I'm looking for cad sources to build an acrylic case to accommodate a few projects that I'm working on ...

    CAD sources as in you'd like the models/drawings for a case? Those files are usually closely held and are hard to get a hold of. I cannot and would not give files that I have without the express permission of the creators.

    Quote from: daerid on Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:57:13
    Can we at least try to get this thread back on topic?

    (See, simple question)

    Pretty sure this got derailed a long time ago. But it's ok, we can still try to answer questions or just say that its complicated and advise ppl to start a new topic. ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 13:24:22
    Quote from: agodinhost on Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:53:13
    Guys, please, I'm looking for cad sources to build an acrylic case to accommodate a few projects that I'm working on ...
    I can supply you with files for any case projects. Please PM me with more details.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Sat, 25 May 2013, 13:42:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 May 2013, 13:19:10
    CAD sources as in you'd like the models/drawings for a case? Those files are usually closely held and are hard to get a hold of. I cannot and would not give files that I have without the express permission of the creators.
    Yes, I do understand - that's why I'm asking.
    I'm working on a Cherry/ALPs 60% PCB but when it comes to the case it seems to be a problem.
    I want to use it as base and then do a few minor changes on it.
    My idea is to publish the project here in the forum anyway ...

    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 13:24:22
    Quote from: agodinhost on Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:53:13
    Guys, please, I'm looking for cad sources to build an acrylic case to accommodate a few projects that I'm working on ...
    I can supply you with files for any case projects. Please PM me with more details.
    Sure! and thanks man!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kelbear on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:26:03
    Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can purchase PBT side-print keycaps?

    I couldn't find any off ebay...

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mauri on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:31:39
    Quote from: kelbear on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:26:03
    Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can purchase PBT side-print keycaps?

    I couldn't find any off ebay...

    Thanks!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/104-PBT-Rainbow-Side-printed-keycaps-MX-cherry-Switches-Keyboard-/300910259274?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460fa62c4a
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kelbear on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:33:24
    Haha yeah, this was the only one I could find.

    But they're rainbow... :/. I couldn't find any other options.

    Thanks though!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mauri on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:36:37
    Quote from: kelbear on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:33:24
    Haha yeah, this was the only one I could find.

    But they're rainbow... :/. I couldn't find any other options.

    Thanks though!

    Everyone likes rainbows :3 I've got original filco abs otaku caps I don't need tho

    Also there's an ic for pom sideprinted caps which looks promising

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42518.30
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Mon, 27 May 2013, 17:40:23
    Quote from: mauri on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:36:37
    Quote from: kelbear on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:33:24
    Haha yeah, this was the only one I could find.

    But they're rainbow... :/. I couldn't find any other options.

    Thanks though!

    Everyone likes rainbows :3 I've got original filco abs otaku caps I don't need tho

    Also there's an ic for pom sideprinted caps which looks promising

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42518.30
    Even for a man?
    Here we would say something like "ohhh man, you are soooo gay!!!"
    WE WOULD say, I'm not saying ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Permeability on Mon, 27 May 2013, 21:27:01
    Is there an equivalent to the flipped spacebar on topres? in other words can you flip the spacebar on a topre board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 May 2013, 22:55:56
    Quote from: agodinhost on Mon, 27 May 2013, 17:40:23
    Even for a man?
    Here we would say something like "ohhh man, you are soooo gay!!!"
    WE WOULD say, I'm not saying ...

    Pffft, colors are awesome. I'm a proud owner of a Valentine's set and I had it on my work board for a long time. ^-^

    Quote from: Permeability on Mon, 27 May 2013, 21:27:01
    Is there an equivalent to the flipped spacebar on topres? in other words can you flip the spacebar on a topre board?

    I don't see why you couldn't. Quick, someone try it!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:30:04
    Did Filco  ever release a rare switch TKL board? Or did they just release the standard 4 (blue, brown, red, black) ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:32:10
    The latter. They're very moddable however.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:33:50
    That's a shame. Guess ill have to find some clears.

    Any keyboard is mod-able to me though. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:40:13
    This is true, however some of them use unleaded solder which is a PITA.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mauri on Tue, 28 May 2013, 07:05:13
    Quote from: agodinhost on Mon, 27 May 2013, 17:40:23
    Quote from: mauri on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:36:37
    Quote from: kelbear on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:33:24
    Haha yeah, this was the only one I could find.

    But they're rainbow... :/. I couldn't find any other options.

    Thanks though!

    Everyone likes rainbows :3 I've got original filco abs otaku caps I don't need tho

    Also there's an ic for pom sideprinted caps which looks promising

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42518.30
    Even for a man?
    Here we would say something like "ohhh man, you are soooo gay!!!"
    WE WOULD say, I'm not saying ...

    People can say a lot of things, doesn't mean I care  ;D

    (http://i.imgur.com/pwKkLsS.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 28 May 2013, 07:20:13
    anyone have one of These (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823333070) and is it worth it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 07:25:10
    Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 28 May 2013, 07:20:13
    anyone have one of These (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823333070) and is it worth it?

    Just an FYI that board uses cherry 'MY' switches not MX switches, that is all the info I can help with :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 28 May 2013, 07:25:59
    Not that specific model, as that is the G81 series meaning MY switches. I have a G80-1800, which contains MX switches. Inlikeflynn is the guy to talk to if you want to get ahold of one of the G80 series (or G81 for cap stripping/case salvaging.). Dolch keyboards often can be snagged for cheap (once the caps are stripped) if you are in the market for one. All in all, not worth the MY switches. Also, 'Coffe' is spelt wrong in your signature :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 07:29:53
    Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 28 May 2013, 07:20:13
    anyone have one of These (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823333070) and is it worth it?

    Also, if you want a white one (for the case or something), you can get them on eBay for $30 shipped.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/14096657369
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:07:49
    What's the cheapest/convenient option for effectively lubing my new ergo-clears? I don't have time/money to track down some Krytox 103 and I only plan on lubing my own board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:11:02
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:07:49
    What's the cheapest/convenient option for effectively lubing my new ergo-clears? I don't have time/money to track down some Krytox 103 and I only plan on lubing my own board.

    Use Krytox 205 grease for the stems and Victorinox multi tool oil for the springs. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:27:49
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:11:02
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:07:49
    What's the cheapest/convenient option for effectively lubing my new ergo-clears? I don't have time/money to track down some Krytox 103 and I only plan on lubing my own board.

    Use Krytox 205 grease for the stems and Victorinox multi tool oil for the springs. :)
    Thank you! I just put in an order on Amazon. I'm going to have a very large project for this weekend  ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:40:44
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:27:49
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:11:02
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:07:49
    What's the cheapest/convenient option for effectively lubing my new ergo-clears? I don't have time/money to track down some Krytox 103 and I only plan on lubing my own board.

    Use Krytox 205 grease for the stems and Victorinox multi tool oil for the springs. :)
    Thank you! I just put in an order on Amazon. I'm going to have a very large project for this weekend  ^-^

    did amazon have the victorinox multi tool oil? my searchfu is week today.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:43:23
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:40:44
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:27:49
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:11:02
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:07:49
    What's the cheapest/convenient option for effectively lubing my new ergo-clears? I don't have time/money to track down some Krytox 103 and I only plan on lubing my own board.

    Use Krytox 205 grease for the stems and Victorinox multi tool oil for the springs. :)
    Thank you! I just put in an order on Amazon. I'm going to have a very large project for this weekend  ^-^

    did amazon have the victorinox multi tool oil? my searchfu is week today.

    I couldn't find any there, either.

    Here are a couple eBay links:

    Krytox GPL 205 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/270726776495)

    Victorinox Multi Tool Oil (http://www.ebay.com/itm/130879538069)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: longweight on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:45:34
    Does anyone here own the RF numpad? Is it worth it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:58:39
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:40:44
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:27:49
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:11:02
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:07:49
    What's the cheapest/convenient option for effectively lubing my new ergo-clears? I don't have time/money to track down some Krytox 103 and I only plan on lubing my own board.

    Use Krytox 205 grease for the stems and Victorinox multi tool oil for the springs. :)
    Thank you! I just put in an order on Amazon. I'm going to have a very large project for this weekend  ^-^

    did amazon have the victorinox multi tool oil? my searchfu is week today.

    No I got that on eBay a few days ago.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:18:15
    Quote from: longweight on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:45:34
    Does anyone here own the RF numpad? Is it worth it?

    The_Beast has the one I want. I want to know the answer to this as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:26:36
    How can I disassemble a Quickfire TK? It appears it has 4 screws + 1 warranty screw, removed, but it appears it has clips holding the cap internally. Well on the top-right and left corners they are VERY firm. I tried a credit card and some force and it appears almost at breaking point. Do I miss something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:32:24
    Quote from: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:26:36
    How can I disassemble a Quickfire TK? It appears it has 4 screws + 1 warranty screw, removed, but it appears it has clips holding the cap internally. Well on the top-right and left corners they are VERY firm. I tried a credit card and some force and it appears almost at breaking point. Do I miss something?

    http://www.ifixit.com/Tools/Spudger/IF145-002

    I use this for disassembling most anything...I have no personal experience with the tk but I'm sure someone will chime in that has.

    Might try to 'wiggle' the card where you think the case is snapped together and it might loosen it up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:41:21
    Quote from: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:26:36
    How can I disassemble a Quickfire TK? It appears it has 4 screws + 1 warranty screw, removed, but it appears it has clips holding the cap internally. Well on the top-right and left corners they are VERY firm. I tried a credit card and some force and it appears almost at breaking point. Do I miss something?

    My credit card was almost at a 45-50 degree angle before I got the snaps on my Filco to unhook. I really had to fight it before I got it undone. And my Filco had 4 screws in the back which held the back together and 4 snaps in front which unhooked the front end. I have pictures/writeup in my Wiki (see my signature) if you wanted to see how I opened my board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:57:43
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:32:24
    http://www.ifixit.com/Tools/Spudger/IF145-002

    I use this for disassembling most anything...I have no personal experience with the tk but I'm sure someone will chime in that has.

    Might try to 'wiggle' the card where you think the case is snapped together and it might loosen it up.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:41:21
    My credit card was almost at a 45-50 degree angle before I got the snaps on my Filco to unhook. I really had to fight it before I got it undone. And my Filco had 4 screws in the back which held the back together and 4 snaps in front which unhooked the front end. I have pictures/writeup in my Wiki (see my signature) if you wanted to see how I opened my board.

    It's just ridiculous. I've put tons of force after half-prying the bottom corner up, no go. I tried going directly to the top corner (either), with tons of force, while the rest is closed, nothing. It's almost like screws are holding them (those top corners of the cap) but I doubt there're any under the rubber feet. I feel like a bit more force might break something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 13:00:55
    I've found a youtube part showing the "corner"  :)) but it's in an Asian language.

    (http://i.imgur.com/wld2u8U.png)

    Though he appears to probably say "that corner sucks"  :cool:

    hd=1

    [PS. I've not opened it that far at all. I haven't seen the clip.]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 13:41:09
    According to this:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34373.30

    There's one screw under the sticker and 4 plastic tabs to unlock.

    EDIT: My bad--you're talking about the TK, not Rapid.  My older rubber dome keyboards had screws under rubber feet / pads.  You could try peeling them off--they are usually easy to stick back on. (Just to check).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 13:46:29
    TK has at least four more screws.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 13:51:18
    Why dont you attach a picture of the bottom and sides so that people can help you like that. I know personally I've never even seen TK in real life.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 13:54:39
    D'oh, the corner from the Chinese video is from the bottom part. I'll stop trying for now. I'll wait for more public reviews from experts on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 13:59:39
    I don't think they're coming... The TK has been out for awhile, and many people have chosen not to pick it up for one reason or another. You should really just go for it and don't be scared. Even if you break a tab or something, the screws will hold it together just fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:08:20
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:11:02
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:07:49
    What's the cheapest/convenient option for effectively lubing my new ergo-clears? I don't have time/money to track down some Krytox 103 and I only plan on lubing my own board.

    Use Krytox 205 grease for the stems and Victorinox multi tool oil for the springs. :)

    May I ask why you suggest Victorinox for the springs as opposed to, say, the Krytox 205?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:33:20
    What do you think the chances are of Ducky offering MX White switches (not clear) for its full-size range? Have there been any talks of them venturing out of the standard switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:34:54
    From what I can tell, they're venturing out, but not to anything that isn't more popular, like Clears and Greens. Whites seem to be difficult to come by as it is. Maybe that's because someone has bought them all up? I don't know. But I imagine they'd be TKL more than anything, if they did so.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:36:46
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:33:20
    What do you think the chances are of Ducky offering MX White switches (not clear) for its full-size range? Have there been any talks of them venturing out of the standard switches?


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    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:34:54
    From what I can tell, they're venturing out, but not to anything that isn't more popular, like Clears and Greens. Whites seem to be difficult to come by as it is. Maybe that's because someone has bought them all up? I don't know. But I imagine they'd be TKL more than anything, if they did so.

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    ^^ I am very much considering getting this when they come in  8)

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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:38:02
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:08:20
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:11:02
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:07:49
    What's the cheapest/convenient option for effectively lubing my new ergo-clears? I don't have time/money to track down some Krytox 103 and I only plan on lubing my own board.

    Use Krytox 205 grease for the stems and Victorinox multi tool oil for the springs. :)

    May I ask why you suggest Victorinox for the springs as opposed to, say, the Krytox 205?

    I just think oil coats a spring better than grease. And Victorinox oil is cheaper than Krytox, by a fair amount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:39:46
    @moose Ah yeah that's what I was guessing. Looks like I might have to bite the bullet and look at custom options.

    @ray4jc Yeah I've seen those but I am pretty sure this is an extension of MK.com's previous clear-to-white translation errors. As we've seen in the past all the Ducky keyboards they have listed as MX White have turned out to be MX Clears. I could be wrong though.

    Thank you!

    Edit: Congrats on 4000 posts Moose!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: longweight on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:40:31
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:18:15
    Quote from: longweight on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:45:34
    Does anyone here own the RF numpad? Is it worth it?

    The_Beast has the one I want. I want to know the answer to this as well.


    I might just have to buy one!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:41:34
    F&^k My Life. QF TK has screws under the rubber feet. Spread it to the interwebs. I'm sure more disassembly reviews will pop up once they realize this. ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:43:19
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:39:46
    @moose Ah yeah that's what I was guessing. Looks like I might have to bite the bullet and look at custom options.

    @ray4jc Yeah I've seen those but I am pretty sure this is an extension of MK.com's previous clear-to-white translation errors. As we've seen in the past all the Ducky keyboards they have listed as MX White have turned out to be MX Clears. I could be wrong though.

    Thank you!

    Edit: Congrats on 4000 posts Moose!



    Well hopefully this one actually has white switches :p

    Quote from: longweight on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:40:31
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 12:18:15
    Quote from: longweight on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:45:34
    Does anyone here own the RF numpad? Is it worth it?

    The_Beast has the one I want. I want to know the answer to this as well.
    I might just have to buy one!

    do it!! then post a review.

    Quote from: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:41:34
    F&^k My Life. QF TK has screws under the rubber feet. Spread it to the interwebs. I'm sure more disassembly reviews will pop up once they realize this. ;D


    yeah i wanted to say look under the feet but then if you would have taken them off and nothing would have been there  ::)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:43:52
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:39:46
    @moose Ah yeah that's what I was guessing. Looks like I might have to bite the bullet and look at custom options.

    @ray4jc Yeah I've seen those but I am pretty sure this is an extension of MK.com's previous clear-to-white translation errors. As we've seen in the past all the Ducky keyboards they have listed as MX White have turned out to be MX Clears. I could be wrong though.

    Thank you!

    Edit: Congrats on 4000 posts Moose!

    If I had to bet money, I'd wager that was probably what's happening. Until they actually receive the items and verify with their own eyes, we're sort of left at the mercy of being lost in translation.

    And thanks, man!

    And thanks for the answer, jd. I'll have to pick some up then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:45:27
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:43:19
    yeah i wanted to say look under the feet but then if you would have taken them off and nothing would have been there  ::)
    Luckily, only half of them can be pried open so they don't come off.  :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:49:03
    What kind of household item can I use to clean the surface of a circuit? This TK is acting up and I see some mild dirt on it from assembly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:51:46
    Maybe make a new thread for these QF TK questions? Others might find the info useful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:52:49
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:51:46
    Maybe make a new thread for these QF TK questions? Others might find the info useful.
    ok
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:55:37
    Quote from: fateswarm on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:45:27
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:43:19
    yeah i wanted to say look under the feet but then if you would have taken them off and nothing would have been there  ::)
    Luckily, only half of them can be pried open so they don't come off.  :cool:

    Also take picks so others can see what you did and how to do it!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:07:34
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:51:46
    Maybe make a new thread for these QF TK questions? Others might find the info useful.

    Please do this!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: superuser on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:14:56
    Is the escape key on a HHKB2 a different shape than other similar sized keys?  I would like to use a red blank in replace of the standard function key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:17:18
    Oh, yeah. The Fn key will be a different profile than the Esc key. You'd need one made for that key.

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_redarrow

    You could buy a set of these, and then use the down arrow as the Fn key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:19:40
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:43:52
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Tue, 28 May 2013, 14:39:46
    @moose Ah yeah that's what I was guessing. Looks like I might have to bite the bullet and look at custom options.

    @ray4jc Yeah I've seen those but I am pretty sure this is an extension of MK.com's previous clear-to-white translation errors. As we've seen in the past all the Ducky keyboards they have listed as MX White have turned out to be MX Clears. I could be wrong though.

    Thank you!

    Edit: Congrats on 4000 posts Moose!

    If I had to bet money, I'd wager that was probably what's happening. Until they actually receive the items and verify with their own eyes, we're sort of left at the mercy of being lost in translation.

    This is what I don't understand--shouldn't it be possible to contact Ducky for a detailed description and proper switch name?  They should know if it's "milk" or "white" or what not.  They can even probably describe if it's a clicky switch.  Why does it have to be guesswork :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:22:41
    You can contact them yourself or MK.com and let us know what you find?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:23:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:22:41
    You can contact them yourself or MK.com and let us know what you find?

    Tried a MK rep on this site, but he's been absent for over a week (maybe a vacation), so no word back.  I'll try contacting Ducky directly, because I want to buy one of those PBT boards if it has MX Clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:25:12
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:23:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:22:41
    You can contact them yourself or MK.com and let us know what you find?

    Tried a MK rep on this site, but he's been absent for over a week (maybe a vacation), so no word back.  I'll try contacting Ducky directly, because I want to buy one of those PBT boards if it has MX Clears.

    yeah the mk.com reps don't come here very often. you can email them at support@mechanicalkeyboards.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: superuser on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:33:18
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:17:18
    Oh, yeah. The Fn key will be a different profile than the Esc key. You'd need one made for that key.

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_redarrow

    You could buy a set of these, and then use the down arrow as the Fn key?

    Thanks for the reply.  I was really only hoping for blank.

    However, would those arrow keys fit the arrow key (sub layer) of the HHKB?  I wouldn't mind doing that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:35:09
    Just e-mailed Ducky directly, being very detailed and providing a photo of a Clear switch next to a White switch (from Deskthority wiki), trying to be as comprehensive as possible.  Hope to hear back!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:36:02
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:35:09
    Just e-mailed Ducky directly, being very detailed and providing a photo of a Clear switch next to a White switch (from Deskthority wiki), trying to be as comprehensive as possible.  Hope to hear back!

    the easiest for me when asking someone is mentioning the white switch has a 'bump' on it...not sure of the technical term

    interested to hear what they have to say  8)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:36:52
    Quote from: superuser on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:33:18
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:17:18
    Oh, yeah. The Fn key will be a different profile than the Esc key. You'd need one made for that key.

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_redarrow

    You could buy a set of these, and then use the down arrow as the Fn key?

    Thanks for the reply.  I was really only hoping for blank.

    However, would those arrow keys fit the arrow key (sub layer) of the HHKB?  I wouldn't mind doing that.

    I don't think so. IIRC, the arrow key sublayer for the HHKB is on the [;'/ keys. Those are three different profiles. But I have seen people with caps there. Whether they were mismatched in profile or they found them somewhere else, I don't know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:37:18
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:36:02
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:35:09
    Just e-mailed Ducky directly, being very detailed and providing a photo of a Clear switch next to a White switch (from Deskthority wiki), trying to be as comprehensive as possible.  Hope to hear back!

    the easiest for me when asking someone is mentioning the white switch has a 'bump' on it...not sure of the technical term

    interested to hear what they have to say  8)

    Yep, I've included that too: tactile bump and click vs. tactile bump and no click.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:38:03
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:40:27
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:25:12
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:23:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:22:41
    You can contact them yourself or MK.com and let us know what you find?

    Tried a MK rep on this site, but he's been absent for over a week (maybe a vacation), so no word back.  I'll try contacting Ducky directly, because I want to buy one of those PBT boards if it has MX Clears.

    yeah the mk.com reps don't come here very often. you can email them at support@mechanicalkeyboards.com

    ShakeR is an MK.com rep (owner). But I know he's busy. You can also try their sub-forum or PMs. I'm not actually sure how active he is though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:44:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:40:27
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:25:12
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:23:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:22:41
    You can contact them yourself or MK.com and let us know what you find?

    Tried a MK rep on this site, but he's been absent for over a week (maybe a vacation), so no word back.  I'll try contacting Ducky directly, because I want to buy one of those PBT boards if it has MX Clears.

    yeah the mk.com reps don't come here very often. you can email them at support@mechanicalkeyboards.com

    ShakeR is an MK.com rep (owner). But I know he's busy. You can also try their sub-forum or PMs. I'm not actually sure how active he is though.

    last time I pm'ed him he said he isn't here much just to email them, that was the best way to get a hold of them  8)


    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:37:18
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:36:02
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:35:09
    Just e-mailed Ducky directly, being very detailed and providing a photo of a Clear switch next to a White switch (from Deskthority wiki), trying to be as comprehensive as possible.  Hope to hear back!

    the easiest for me when asking someone is mentioning the white switch has a 'bump' on it...not sure of the technical term

    interested to hear what they have to say  8)

    Yep, I've included that too: tactile bump and click vs. tactile bump and no click.

    no I mean literally on one leg of the switch their is a raised bump on the white switch :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:45:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:40:27
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:25:12
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:23:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:22:41
    You can contact them yourself or MK.com and let us know what you find?

    Tried a MK rep on this site, but he's been absent for over a week (maybe a vacation), so no word back.  I'll try contacting Ducky directly, because I want to buy one of those PBT boards if it has MX Clears.

    yeah the mk.com reps don't come here very often. you can email them at support@mechanicalkeyboards.com

    ShakeR is an MK.com rep (owner). But I know he's busy. You can also try their sub-forum or PMs. I'm not actually sure how active he is though.

    As per this thread, they won't know until the keyboards arrive, so I decided to try being more proactive:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41372.30
    (reply #48)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:46:00
    for mechnicalkeyboards.com this thread is very useful.
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38000.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:47:32
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:45:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:40:27
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:25:12
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:23:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:22:41
    You can contact them yourself or MK.com and let us know what you find?

    Tried a MK rep on this site, but he's been absent for over a week (maybe a vacation), so no word back.  I'll try contacting Ducky directly, because I want to buy one of those PBT boards if it has MX Clears.

    yeah the mk.com reps don't come here very often. you can email them at support@mechanicalkeyboards.com

    ShakeR is an MK.com rep (owner). But I know he's busy. You can also try their sub-forum or PMs. I'm not actually sure how active he is though.

    As per this thread, they won't know until the keyboards arrive, so I decided to try being more proactive:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41372.30 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41372.30)
    (reply #48)

    so then I guess that means we wait  ???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:57:33
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:47:32
    so then I guess that means we wait  ???

    5 am in Taiwan--long wait!  In the meantime... random article about a restaurant in Taiwan, for those who are bored :)
    http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1882569,00.html
    (sorry about the Off-topic)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:04:12
    Yeah, sorry to be such a grump, but can you guys make a new thread for this Ducky stuff, too? This here is Simple Questions, Simple Answers...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:07:51
    Sorry, jd. We're just simple people, lookin' for some answers...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:10:36
    The truth is revealed: Moose is in fact just a simple person. Not an anti-God or even a moose. And JD is correct yet again, if you guys could push the Ducky info to a new thread that'd be wonderful. Thank you ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:16:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:10:36
    The truth is revealed: Moose is in fact just a simple person. Not an anti-God or even a moose. And JD is correct yet again, if you guys could push the Ducky info to a new thread that'd be wonderful. Thank you ^-^

    Here is a simple question, why is this thread not a sticky yet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:18:27
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:16:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:10:36
    The truth is revealed: Moose is in fact just a simple person. Not an anti-God or even a moose. And JD is correct yet again, if you guys could push the Ducky info to a new thread that'd be wonderful. Thank you ^-^

    Here is a simple question, why is this thread not a sticky yet?

    Simple answer: because a moderator or administrator of the forum hasn't deemed it sticky-worthy yet. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:19:38
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:18:27
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:16:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:10:36
    The truth is revealed: Moose is in fact just a simple person. Not an anti-God or even a moose. And JD is correct yet again, if you guys could push the Ducky info to a new thread that'd be wonderful. Thank you ^-^

    Here is a simple question, why is this thread not a sticky yet?

    Simple answer: because a moderator or administrator of the forum hasn't deemed it sticky-worthy yet. :)

    ok :(


    so has anyone ever had a shortened usb cable like < 6 inches  that plugs into their keyboard then a female end on the other side to be used as a disconnect so you just unplug the cable from their to the pc and go, while always leaving the short cable plugged into your keyboard?

    the idea being you could have two or three or however many cables that went from the pc to keyboard that stayed, say one at work and the other at home.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:30:04
    This thread makes me sticky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:31:06
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:30:04
    This thread makes me sticky.

    just don't get it on your keyboard or else!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:34:50
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:19:38
    so has anyone ever had a shortened usb cable like < 6 inches  that plugs into their keyboard then a female end on the other side to be used as a disconnect so you just unplug the cable from their to the pc and go, while always leaving the short cable plugged into your keyboard?

    the idea being you could have two or three or however many cables that went from the pc to keyboard that stayed, say one at work and the other at home.

    George aka mistakemistake used to make the little quick disconnect cables like this. You could probably get any of the cable makers here to make you something like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:36:16
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:34:50
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:19:38
    so has anyone ever had a shortened usb cable like < 6 inches  that plugs into their keyboard then a female end on the other side to be used as a disconnect so you just unplug the cable from their to the pc and go, while always leaving the short cable plugged into your keyboard?

    the idea being you could have two or three or however many cables that went from the pc to keyboard that stayed, say one at work and the other at home.

    George aka mistakemistake used to make the little quick disconnect cables like this. You could probably get any of the cable makers here to make you something like that.

    well I wanted it for my ducky because its a pain to plug and unplug and then I saw a pic of a phantom with the usb cable in the teensy ziptied to the pcb and something like what I asked about be perfect for that.

    i have a hard time explaining what I want sometimes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:36:23
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:19:38
    so has anyone ever had a shortened usb cable like < 6 inches  that plugs into their keyboard then a female end on the other side to be used as a disconnect so you just unplug the cable from their to the pc and go, while always leaving the short cable plugged into your keyboard?

    the idea being you could have two or three or however many cables that went from the pc to keyboard that stayed, say one at work and the other at home.

    I believe Pexon and Paranoid make such cables, so I'd ask them for recommendations on DIY.

    (http://i.imgur.com/BE4Eo.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/87i9PdA.jpg)

    If it's a mini-USB connection to the board, could always get a short mini USB cable like this:
    http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=5446&seq=1&format=2

    (or shorter)  and a USB extension cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:38:07
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:36:23
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:19:38
    so has anyone ever had a shortened usb cable like < 6 inches  that plugs into their keyboard then a female end on the other side to be used as a disconnect so you just unplug the cable from their to the pc and go, while always leaving the short cable plugged into your keyboard?

    the idea being you could have two or three or however many cables that went from the pc to keyboard that stayed, say one at work and the other at home.

    I believe Pexon and Paranoid make such cables, so I'd ask them for recommendations on DIY.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/BE4Eo.jpg)
     
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/87i9PdA.jpg)


    yeah pexon posted an example for me but his was for a filco just because the filco didn't come with a normally detachable cable.

    I guess I should have asked like this, do any of your guys use a cable setup like I suggested above?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:41:12
    I don't see why you would do that, when just 6 inches from there... you could disconnect the cable, always leaving those cables connected to your computer...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:46:40
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:41:12
    I don't see why you would do that, when just 6 inches from there... you could disconnect the cable, always leaving those cables connected to your computer...

    one everytime I unplug and try to replug my ducky I feel like I'm going to break something

    [attach=1]

    and do most phantoms end up cabled like this?

    [attach=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:48:17
    Ah! Well that does make sense then, now that a picture accommodates your idea. You should go for it! You should be able to find a very short mini USB cable online.

    Also, I imagine so. That's how mine is, though without a zip tie. I'm not roughly moving my keyboards around all the time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:54:43
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:48:17
    Ah! Well that does make sense then, now that a picture accommodates your idea. You should go for it! You should be able to find a very short mini USB cable online.

    Also, I imagine so. That's how mine is, though without a zip tie. I'm not roughly moving my keyboards around all the time.

    In all reality I would really , really like a wireless keyboard  ???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:58:23
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:54:43
    In all reality I would really , really like a wireless keyboard  ???

    KBTalking has that Bluetooth wireless keyboard. Binge is selling one in the classifieds
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:59:44
    Binge is selling his for fairly cheap at the moment. I wish I could buy it, because I'd love a wireless keyboard as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 28 May 2013, 17:14:00
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:54:43
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:48:17
    Ah! Well that does make sense then, now that a picture accommodates your idea. You should go for it! You should be able to find a very short mini USB cable online.

    Also, I imagine so. That's how mine is, though without a zip tie. I'm not roughly moving my keyboards around all the time.

    In all reality I would really , really like a wireless keyboard  ???

    Just get the mini USB cable I linked--the mini USB side is tiny--it should fit.  It's only 1.5ft long and comes in black or white.

    $1.05 + shipping, and a USB extension cable x 2.  Keep each of the extension cables plugged into both of your computers and just unplug the keyboard with the 1.5ft cable in it.  Example: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030304&p_id=5432&seq=1&format=2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:03:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:58:23
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:54:43
    In all reality I would really , really like a wireless keyboard  ???

    KBTalking has that Bluetooth wireless keyboard. Binge is selling one in the classifieds

    I am not a fan of blue switches or I probably would have bought that months ago ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:08:16
    Someone else is selling one with Browns as well. But Blues are better. Just a simple fact.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:14:40
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:08:16
    Someone else is selling one with Browns as well. But Blues are better. Just a simple fact.

    I dislike both blues and browns :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:28:34
    Then you can buy one with Reds on techkeys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:51:17
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:28:34
    Then you can buy one with Reds on techkeys?

    Meh...........
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 28 May 2013, 19:10:30
    http://matias.ca/laptoppro/mac/

    ??

    :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 19:35:00
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 28 May 2013, 19:10:30
    http://matias.ca/laptoppro/mac/

    ??

    :)

    I actually was looking at that one last night ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 22:32:01
    This post is not directed at anyone in particular. If you think it sounds like your situation, maybe it applies to a specific case you have in mind, but trust me, this post is for general guidelines, and is in no way intended to point out anyone as being wrong or inconsiderate.

    Q: Should I post my question here in the Simple Questions Simple Answers thread, or make a new thread to address my problem or situation?

    A: If your question is brief, specific, and you reasonably believe that it could be answered in one reply post, please post your question here, and someone will try to help you as soon as possible with an answer and/or explanation of where to find further information. Links to other posts/threads will be provided when possible.

    If you think that the response to your question will be likely to require several posts, with the possibility of interaction between yourself and the responder being necessary to come to an conclusion, you would probably be doing the community a favor by starting a new thread regarding your topic. A new thread will give others the opportunity to explore the same issues that you are experiencing in regard to the keyboard, switch, or other issue, organized cohesively into one place.

    Also, if what you thought was a simple question turned into a lengthy discussion, please create a new thread regarding that topic, and post a link and direct others to join the discussion in that thread.

    These few guidelines should make the organization of information by topic much more defined, and accessible to other members who may be having the same question, problem, or issue you may be experiencing.

    Thanks for helping to make this topic the place to turn for questions and answers!

    :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 28 May 2013, 22:36:40
    /me feels the wounds cut deep. I trusted you JADECARP!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sai on Tue, 28 May 2013, 22:42:16
    i don't believe those are all keyboards you have there, jd.  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 May 2013, 22:51:48
    Pfft...JD thinks he can just come in here and get things added to the OP like he owns this? :P

    Seriously though, I really like how that post was worded and have added it to the OP. I hope that this thread will continue to thrive and even generate a lot of cool spinoff threads :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 28 May 2013, 23:23:48
    I managed to read JDs post even at this ungodly hour and I agree with it totally.

    I also have two simple questions for you guys.

    Does the legend quality/clarity differ between imsto and BSP dyesub keycaps?
    If I were to mix and match some BSP black on beige two tones and some GMK black on beige two tones would I notice a colour difference? If so, would it be very noticable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 07:43:48
    Where can I get custom thick PBT caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mauri on Wed, 29 May 2013, 07:51:27
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 07:43:48
    Where can I get custom thick PBT caps?

    Nowhere
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 May 2013, 08:12:07
    I feel imsto caps are on par with BSP caps in both printing and the base caps quality. Where the biggest difference that will mater to a buyer lies in what size modifier they need, 1.25 or 1.5 is easiest way to make the decision.
    If you mix PBT and ABS there will almost always be a color difference, it depends on how noticeable it is and how much that may bother you. Personally, extremely small shade difference drives me crazier lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 09:02:32
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 07:43:48
    Where can I get custom thick PBT caps?

    The ones that TechKeys carries are done by Imsto. You could try contacting Imsto but I'm not sure you'll be able to do a one off run. You can get blank PBT caps from SP and dye them yourself. But I don't think there's a service like WASD for thick PBT caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 29 May 2013, 09:10:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 09:02:32
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 07:43:48
    Where can I get custom thick PBT caps?

    The ones that TechKeys carries are done by Imsto. You could try contacting Imsto but I'm not sure you'll be able to do a one off run. You can get blank PBT caps from SP and dye them yourself. But I don't think there's a service like WASD for thick PBT caps.
    Actually they're done through Qtan. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:03:19
    Do plate mounted switches have any advantage over PCB mount?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: daerid on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:06:25
    Keyboard makers should really start moving over to Micro USB. Not only is it becoming ubiquitous due to cell phones, but it's much more durable than the Mini USB connector.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:20:01
    on my QFR the LED is at the bottom of the switch, any way to swap out the switch and put in one that has the LED at the top?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:21:38
    Quote from: daerid on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:06:25
    Keyboard makers should really start moving over to Micro USB. Not only is it becoming ubiquitous due to cell phones, but it's much more durable than the Mini USB connector.

    And then you could charge your cell with your keyboard cable!! Win, win!!

    Daerid, someone posted that you had done an ultimate topre board review but I can't seem to find it, could you point me in the right direction?

    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:20:01
    on my QFR the LED is at the bottom of the switch, any way to swap out the switch and put in one that has the LED at the top?

    I think you just unsolder and turn it around? maybe thats too easy....i have yet to delve into modding. (i'm an idiot but jd knows all)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:34:21
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:20:01
    on my QFR the LED is at the bottom of the switch, any way to swap out the switch and put in one that has the LED at the top?

    Unfortunately, no. The switch (and LED) cab only be mounted in one orientation, which depends upon how the holes for the pins are laid out on the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:35:58
    Quote
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:20:01
    on my QFR the LED is at the bottom of the switch, any way to swap out the switch and put in one that has the LED at the top?

    I think you just unsolder and turn it around? maybe thats too easy....i have yet to delve into modding.

    unfortunately I don't think you can just flip the switch upside down.

    If I were to take a guess I would say the LED light itself probably has its own soldering points, therefore making it impossible to move unless the PCB itself is changed.

    I'm asking this cuz I'm wondering if anyone has done something similar and how they went about doing it.

    think I just answered my own question, take a look at this
    (http://i.imgur.com/ixPeWml.jpg)

    the 3 red boxes indicate the switches that has LED on it. as you can see there are two smaller soldering points at the bottom of each of those. so this means it's impossible to swap it to the top.

    aww man
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:47:04
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:03:19
    Do plate mounted switches have any advantage over PCB mount?

    If you're going to mount your switches to a board with a plate, you won't have to snip off all the little legs that the PCB-mounted switches have.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:56:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:47:04
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:03:19
    Do plate mounted switches have any advantage over PCB mount?

    If you're going to mount your switches to a board with a plate, you won't have to snip off all the little legs that the PCB-mounted switches have.

    Just remember, you don't have to snip anything if the PCB has holes for those "little legs." :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:57:21
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:56:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:47:04
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:03:19
    Do plate mounted switches have any advantage over PCB mount?

    If you're going to mount your switches to a board with a plate, you won't have to snip off all the little legs that the PCB-mounted switches have.

    Just remember, you don't have to snip anything if the PCB has holes for those "little legs." :D

    what about switches for a phantom with a plate? don't the legs have to be cut off for those?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:59:44
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:57:21
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:56:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:47:04
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:03:19
    Do plate mounted switches have any advantage over PCB mount?

    If you're going to mount your switches to a board with a plate, you won't have to snip off all the little legs that the PCB-mounted switches have.

    Just remember, you don't have to snip anything if the PCB has holes for those "little legs." :D

    what about switches for a phantom with a plate? don't the legs have to be cut off for those?



    Yes, in order to mount PCB mount switches on a Phantom PCB, you will have to cut off those legs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Meistershank on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:04:47
    Here's for a question that should be relatively easy to answer.  Can anyone tell me what type of Cherry switch this is?  It's from a Royal Alpha 2001 typewriter; it's black, but sure isn't a Cherry MX black >.>
    (http://i.imgur.com/PKenMQj.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:07:59
    whats so special about Phantom PCBs anyway?


    also, anyone here have a picture of a top LED switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:10:34
    Quote from: Meistershank on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:04:47
    Here's for a question that should be relatively easy to answer.  Can anyone tell me what type of Cherry switch this is?  It's from a Royal Alpha 2001 typewriter; it's black, but sure isn't a Cherry MX black >.>
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/PKenMQj.jpg)


    Looks like a Cherry M6 variant to me, or a first-gen M7.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_M7


    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:07:59
    whats so special about Phantom PCBs anyway?


    also, anyone here have a picture of a top LED switch?

    Phantom PCB has the option for several different layouts, similar to the GH60. See here: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom

    The "top LED switch" is simply a Cherry MX switch mounted 180-degrees from a "bottom LED switch." :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:11:42
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:07:59
    whats so special about Phantom PCBs anyway?

    They are specially designed to allow many different layouts. Also, by the controller they've been designed to use, they are highly programmable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:13:21
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:10:34
    Quote from: Meistershank on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:04:47
    Here's for a question that should be relatively easy to answer.  Can anyone tell me what type of Cherry switch this is?  It's from a Royal Alpha 2001 typewriter; it's black, but sure isn't a Cherry MX black >.>
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/PKenMQj.jpg)


    Looks like a Cherry M6 variant to me...

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_M6

    I believe it's a Cherry M8 or M84.  It looks a lot like these M8 switches (http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/yab8433408-s-cherry-switches-t2149-30.html).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:14:12
    Quote from: Meistershank on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:04:47
    Here's for a question that should be relatively easy to answer.  Can anyone tell me what type of Cherry switch this is?  It's from a Royal Alpha 2001 typewriter; it's black, but sure isn't a Cherry MX black >.>
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/PKenMQj.jpg)


    Looks like a Cherry M7 switch. The Mr. Interface Switch Try Bag (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Cherry) has one. It's a predecessor to the Cherry MX Black switch.

    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:07:59
    whats so special about Phantom PCBs anyway?

    It's a programmable TKL board; like a GH60 but TKL layout. More info can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26742.0) and here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20184.0).


    And ya'll are some crazy snipers. Can't even respond without the Vulcan-Wizard and moose killing my answer flow :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:16:38
    Who's simpin' now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:16:52
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:07:59
    also, anyone here have a picture of a top LED switch?

    [attach=1]

    on topic:

    and I'm serious because I don't now and I know you guys know and there should be a simple answere...

    What's with RGB modifiers being hot items?? Is it part of keyboard 'history'??

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:30:32
    argh damit so it's impossible to just change the switch...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:34:29
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:30:32
    What's with RGB modifiers being hot items?? Is it part of keyboard 'history'??

    I've been told that RGB mods were used in various work-related/work environment keyboards (such as airports) where it helped people to learn how to use those switches. Instead of saying "Alt-F4", you could say "Blue-F4" or something to make the process easier.

    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:30:32
    argh damit so it's impossible to just change the switch...

    Even if the LED wasn't there, you'd still need to desolder the switch in-order to change it. Unless the keyboard was PCB-mounted and had no LEDs. You could pop the top off one of the switches and swap in a new stem and spring.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: daerid on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:36:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:21:38
    Daerid, someone posted that you had done an ultimate topre board review but I can't seem to find it, could you point me in the right direction?

    Here ya go (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42300.msg899053#msg899053)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:36:38
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:30:32
    argh damit so it's impossible to just change the switch...


    Correct, that is almost impossible. I say almost, because you could really do it, if you set your mind to it. It would require drilling holes and running wires.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:39:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:36:38
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:30:32
    argh damit so it's impossible to just change the switch...


    Correct, that is almost impossible. I say almost, because you could really do it, if you set your mind to it. It would require drilling holes and running wires.
    I'd do it :P I think the Koreans do it to convert from ISO to ANSI.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:40:21
    Quote from: daerid on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:36:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:21:38
    Daerid, someone posted that you had done an ultimate topre board review but I can't seem to find it, could you point me in the right direction?

    Here ya go (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42300.msg899053#msg899053)

    thank you sir!

    my first topre should be arriving any day now!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:41:43
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:40:21
    Quote from: daerid on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:36:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:21:38
    Daerid, someone posted that you had done an ultimate topre board review but I can't seem to find it, could you point me in the right direction?

    Here ya go (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42300.msg899053#msg899053)

    thank you sir!

    my first topre should be arriving any day now!!

    Prepare to be underwhelmed. :P

    They are rubber domes, after all. But some people like them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 29 May 2013, 17:20:58
    Quote from: SmallFry on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:39:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:36:38
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:30:32
    argh damit so it's impossible to just change the switch...


    Correct, that is almost impossible. I say almost, because you could really do it, if you set your mind to it. It would require drilling holes and running wires.
    I'd do it :P I think the Koreans do it to convert from ISO to ANSI.

    To the person that was wondering about rotating a switch so the LED is at the top of the switch, check out the Days LED link in my signature.  I moved the HD activity LED to the ESC key.  I know this really isn't what you are looking for but it will give you an idea what you are getting into and some of the tools needed outside of a soldering iron.  Also keep a bit of an eye on it because in the next week or so I will be rotating the switch 180 for reasons stated in the video I posted.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 29 May 2013, 17:55:24
    How many pins would be required to do the USB for a keyboard and USB pass through on one connector? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 29 May 2013, 19:51:25
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:41:43
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:40:21
    Quote from: daerid on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:36:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 29 May 2013, 15:21:38
    Daerid, someone posted that you had done an ultimate topre board review but I can't seem to find it, could you point me in the right direction?

    Here ya go (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42300.msg899053#msg899053)

    thank you sir!

    my first topre should be arriving any day now!!

    Prepare to be underwhelmed. :P

    They are rubber domes, after all. But some people like them.

    I figured after I'm done trying it I could sell it to you JD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:37:11
    So neither plate mount nor PCB mount doesn't relate to the durability or quality of the keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:44:46
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:37:11
    So neither plate mount nor PCB mount doesn't relate to the durability or quality of the keyboard?

    Well typically if youre going with plate mounted switches, you'll have a plate in your board. This usually translates to a more solid feeling board. However, I dont believe that the PCB vs Plate mounted switches on their own will influence that board one way or another. Switches are switches it seems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:49:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:44:46
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:37:11
    So neither plate mount nor PCB mount doesn't relate to the durability or quality of the keyboard?

    Well typically if youre going with plate mounted switches, you'll have a plate in your board. This usually translates to a more solid feeling board. However, I dont believe that the PCB vs Plate mounted switches on their own will influence that board one way or another. Switches are switches it seems.

    I think I didn't state the question very well... I actually want to ask that should I choose to buy a "PCB mounted" board or a "plated mounted" one, not building one. But thanks for the input!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:27:59
    Anyone know the weight of the Poker II?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:56:10
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:49:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:44:46
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:37:11
    So neither plate mount nor PCB mount doesn't relate to the durability or quality of the keyboard?

    Well typically if youre going with plate mounted switches, you'll have a plate in your board. This usually translates to a more solid feeling board. However, I dont believe that the PCB vs Plate mounted switches on their own will influence that board one way or another. Switches are switches it seems.

    I think I didn't state the question very well... I actually want to ask that should I choose to buy a "PCB mounted" board or a "plated mounted" one, not building one. But thanks for the input!!

    I prefer plate mounted boards over PCB mounted ones. But again, it's personal preference. I think that IvanIvan/Lysol has stated that he prefers PCB mounted because the switches feel better to him in PCB-mounted switches.

    Quote from: therecorder on Wed, 29 May 2013, 22:27:59
    Anyone know the weight of the Poker II?

    I wasn't even aware that anyone had one yet. If anyone has one, I'd love to see a review or at least an answer to this. ^__^

    According to WFD's review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0), it weights 1lb, 5oz. More info can be found in WFD's writeup :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:06:21
    Qtang already had a group buy...  Already delivered.  Has more in his store.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43232.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44040.0

    http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/item/shop-mechanical-keyboard-by-br/kbc-poker-2-61keys-mechanical-/lid=35050923

    I already have one, and have made comments in the Group Buy link.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:09:25
    Thanks for the info. Hopefully you saw my edit :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 May 2013, 07:50:38
    So I know this is probably a 'stupid' question because everyone else knows, but is the only purpose of soldering all the diodes on a board like the phantom just for NKRO?

    Could they be left out??

    I'm so ignorant  :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:00:28
    Aren't those for LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:03:20
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 30 May 2013, 07:50:38
    So I know this is probably a 'stupid' question because everyone else knows, but is the only purpose of soldering all the diodes on a board like the phantom just for NKRO?

    Could they be left out??

    I'm so ignorant  :-X

    You can't leave them out, because the electrical path runs through the diodes, albeit in only one direction. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:05:54
    Could you theoretically just use jumper wires on every place a diode should go? Or just solder the two pads together?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:07:51
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:05:54
    Could you theoretically just use jumper wires on every place a diode should go? Or just solder the two pads together?

    You could use jumper wires, but if you're soldering anything in, you might as well use diodes. They are cheap. Can't make a solder bridge, because the pads are way too far apart.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:09:17
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:03:20
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 30 May 2013, 07:50:38
    So I know this is probably a 'stupid' question because everyone else knows, but is the only purpose of soldering all the diodes on a board like the phantom just for NKRO?

    Could they be left out??

    I'm so ignorant  :-X

    You can't leave them out, because the electrical path runs through the diodes, albeit in only one direction. :)

    Thanks JD!

    I really should have taken an electronics course at some point in my life  :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:11:10
    Quote from: kelbear on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:26:03
    Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can purchase PBT side-print keycaps?

    I couldn't find any off ebay...

    Thanks!
    I just PM'd kelbear about this, but in case anyone had a similar question, this is an AWESOME price for a full set of PBT caps. Not sure about their thickness, but the side-print alone makes this worth it.

    http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/item/pbt-key-caps/104-pbt-white-side-printed-key/lid=19686618
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kelbear on Thu, 30 May 2013, 16:47:37
    Quote from: mauri on Tue, 28 May 2013, 07:05:13
    Quote from: agodinhost on Mon, 27 May 2013, 17:40:23
    Quote from: mauri on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:36:37
    Quote from: kelbear on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:33:24
    Haha yeah, this was the only one I could find.

    But they're rainbow... :/. I couldn't find any other options.

    Thanks though!

    Everyone likes rainbows :3 I've got original filco abs otaku caps I don't need tho

    Also there's an ic for pom sideprinted caps which looks promising

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42518.30
    Even for a man?
    Here we would say something like "ohhh man, you are soooo gay!!!"
    WE WOULD say, I'm not saying ...

    People can say a lot of things, doesn't mean I care  ;D

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/pwKkLsS.gif)



    Hahaha! Love it :D

    I wouldn't mind coloured blank PBT keycaps.. although I've only come across white/black.. the rest that are coloured are ABS :/ (off ebay)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hypercrush on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:12:13
    A keyboard newbie with a few questions...

    Starting off, I just ordered my first mechanical (Filco Maj-2 TKL w/ Browns). I don't even have it yet, but the stock Windows keycaps are pretty unappealing. What can I replace them with (besides the blank Filco keycaps) that I won't have to barter my first born to obtain?

    Next, what's so special about the 'Phantom' keyboards? I get that it's a custom PCB with a few different layouts that you can choose from, that it allows you to use 1.5x modifiers, and that you can re-map keys (I think), but what's the main draw? Seems like an awful lot of work just to gain bigger modifiers or lose the Win key.

    It would also seem that this Phantom board is made to fit in a Filco TKL case, but what happens if you get a Winkeyless PCB? Do you just have an ugly empty space on your board where the Windows key would normally be?

    Thanks!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:12:22
    Today at my local McDonalds I went in and ate (needed wifi on the go), and they had a kiosk with a TG3 with blacks, and god dang man that spill guard is horrible. I initially thought it was maybe a membrane edition (or maybe the mx clear version) until I pried a cap off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mauri on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:15:53
    Quote from: hypercrush on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:12:13
    A keyboard newbie with a few questions...

    Starting off, I just ordered my first mechanical (Filco Maj-2 TKL w/ Browns). I don't even have it yet, but the stock Windows keycaps are pretty unappealing. What can I replace them with (besides the blank Filco keycaps) that I won't have to barter my first born to obtain?


    Not 100% fact but my filco came with 2 pairs of windows keys, printed and the other had the dent/hole. Presumably you'll get em too
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:19:51


     
    Quote from: hypercrush on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:12:13
    A keyboard newbie with a few questions...

    Starting off, I just ordered my first mechanical (Filco Maj-2 TKL w/ Browns). I don't even have it yet, but the stock Windows keycaps are pretty unappealing. What can I replace them with (besides the blank Filco keycaps) that I won't have to barter my first born to obtain?

    Next, what's so special about the 'Phantom' keyboards? I get that it's a custom PCB with a few different layouts that you can choose from, that it allows you to use 1.5x modifiers, and that you can re-map keys (I think), but what's the main draw? Seems like an awful lot of work just to gain bigger modifiers or lose the Win key.

    It would also seem that this Phantom board is made to fit in a Filco TKL case, but what happens if you get a Winkeyless PCB? Do you just have an ugly empty space on your board where the Windows key would normally be?

    Thanks!




    what type of window key are you looking for I just happen to have a bag full o keys......

    and on the phantom it can be built in multiple layouts and is very programmable.

    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:12:22
    Today at my local McDonalds I went in and ate (needed wifi on the go), and they had a kiosk with a TG3 with blacks, and god dang man that spill guard is horrible. I initially thought it was maybe a membrane edition (or maybe the mx clear version) until I pried a cap off.

    Only on geekhack....'guy walks into McDonalds, pries keycap off keyboard!!'.....but finding mechanicals in the wild is awesome  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hypercrush on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:20:38
    Quote from: mauri on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:15:53
    Quote from: hypercrush on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:12:13
    A keyboard newbie with a few questions...

    Starting off, I just ordered my first mechanical (Filco Maj-2 TKL w/ Browns). I don't even have it yet, but the stock Windows keycaps are pretty unappealing. What can I replace them with (besides the blank Filco keycaps) that I won't have to barter my first born to obtain?


    Not 100% fact but my filco came with 2 pairs of windows keys, printed and the other had the dent/hole. Presumably you'll get em too

    Thanks! I'll be very very very happy if this is the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hypercrush on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:27:17
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:19:51


     
    Quote from: hypercrush on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:12:13
    A keyboard newbie with a few questions...

    Starting off, I just ordered my first mechanical (Filco Maj-2 TKL w/ Browns). I don't even have it yet, but the stock Windows keycaps are pretty unappealing. What can I replace them with (besides the blank Filco keycaps) that I won't have to barter my first born to obtain?

    Next, what's so special about the 'Phantom' keyboards? I get that it's a custom PCB with a few different layouts that you can choose from, that it allows you to use 1.5x modifiers, and that you can re-map keys (I think), but what's the main draw? Seems like an awful lot of work just to gain bigger modifiers or lose the Win key.

    It would also seem that this Phantom board is made to fit in a Filco TKL case, but what happens if you get a Winkeyless PCB? Do you just have an ugly empty space on your board where the Windows key would normally be?

    Thanks!




    what type of window key are you looking for I just happen to have a bag full o keys......

    and on the phantom it can be built in multiple layouts and is very programmable.


    Thanks for the reply.

    I'd like the plain old school flag, preferably, but I'd be happy with anything that doesn't have the dome.

    Ideally, I'd like it to match the existing keycaps that come with the board (color, profile, etc.) My OCD is pretty out of control.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 30 May 2013, 18:20:10
    Anyone here added USB pass through to a custom board and case?  If so any links to a build log that I can look at?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 May 2013, 19:50:18
    Again, do not trade or barter or sell in this thread. We have a whole subforum for this.


    Edit: JD has a quick answer on what makes the Phantom special here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg909910.msg#909910). Like most things on GH, it's all about personal preference. I really like customizing my gear. And also, there's always a touch of "This is GH, we do it 'cause we ****ing can." :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Thu, 30 May 2013, 20:24:34
    You know how MechKeys.com (paraphrased) has that interactive KB guide?  Is there one of those for laptops?  I really appreciate the system, and am in the market.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 May 2013, 20:34:51
    I have never seen a comprehensive laptop guide
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ping111 on Thu, 30 May 2013, 20:43:55
    Thanks for now.

    Another question:  I just bought a TG3-TP.  I also have a Mac.  Do I need one of the two-PS/2 to-1-male-USB adapters (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USB-TO-PS2-MOUSE-KEYBOARD-ADAPTER-CONVERTER-CABLE-/330859738521?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item4d08c6f599) to make it work, or what?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 May 2013, 20:50:14
    I'm pretty sure they have a PS/2 connector, so yes, you should get a PS/2 to USB connector. Should work fine after that. I would recommend a Blue Cube connector. Just Google or Amazon that name. Otherwise, the Adesso one works as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xavierblak on Thu, 30 May 2013, 21:17:43
    Any problems using retrobright on black keycaps with a white legend? Not that the black on the key looks bad just the white legend has yellowed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Thu, 30 May 2013, 23:09:48
    Quote from: The_Beast on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:28:34
    Quote from: dadgh on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:24:31
    My MX Black Filco TKL makes a "ping" noise on key release, my Choc Mini with MX Reds never did this. How can I prevent this noise? Both boards have O-rings already.

    More than likely because one is plate mount (filco) and the other is PCB mount

    I'd like to mention that this was incorrect advice and I ended up wasting $70+ on Clear PCB switches because of it. Not saying it's his fault... but it was the reason I made the purchase.

    All Noppoo Choc Minis are plate mounted and all Filcos are plate mounted (obviously).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 May 2013, 23:25:07
    Quote from: dadgh on Thu, 30 May 2013, 23:09:48
    I'd like to mention that this was incorrect advice and I ended up wasting $70+ on Clear PCB switches because of it. Not saying it's his fault... but it was the reason I made the purchase.

    You should probably see if multiple people can confirm your question before you make purchases. As I've proven multiple times, I'm often wrong and I hope that people aren't spending lots of money just based on what I say. What advice were you given and why do you think that you wasted money?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 30 May 2013, 23:27:03
    Quote from: dadgh on Thu, 30 May 2013, 23:09:48
    I'd like to mention that this was incorrect advice and I ended up wasting $70+ on Clear PCB switches because of it. Not saying it's his fault... but it was the reason I made the purchase.

    All Noppoo Choc Minis are plate mounted and all Filcos are plate mounted (obviously).

    Simply cut off the two plastic nubs on each switch and they become Plate mount :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Thu, 30 May 2013, 23:33:15
    Think he thought that he could make a quick and easy change to his Choc Mini (that Beast said was PCB mounted)...  Perhaps, he doesn't do soldering
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Fri, 31 May 2013, 07:51:52
    Quote from: therecorder on Thu, 30 May 2013, 23:33:15
    Think he thought that he could make a quick and easy change to his Choc Mini (that Beast said was PCB mounted)...  Perhaps, he doesn't do soldering

    This exactly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:00:33
    Sorry CPTBadAss.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:19:36
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:00:33
    Here, how bout this. Pay shipping for the board to me and back, and I'll swap the clears (or ergo-clears depending on what you like) for free.

    Is that an open invitation because I've got a rosewill with vintage blacks that would like to be ergo clears instead :o :p

    Quote from: dadgh on Thu, 30 May 2013, 23:09:48
    Quote from: The_Beast on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:28:34
    Quote from: dadgh on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:24:31
    My MX Black Filco TKL makes a "ping" noise on key release, my Choc Mini with MX Reds never did this. How can I prevent this noise? Both boards have O-rings already.

    More than likely because one is plate mount (filco) and the other is PCB mount

    I'd like to mention that this was incorrect advice and I ended up wasting $70+ on Clear PCB switches because of it. Not saying it's his fault... but it was the reason I made the purchase.

    All Noppoo Choc Minis are plate mounted and all Filcos are plate mounted (obviously).

    you want plate mount clear's for those pcb clears? or you want to sell those pcb clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:21:38
    When did you buy that Rosewill? Three months ago? Is that all it takes to call them vintage these days... :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:23:45
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:21:38
    When did you buy that Rosewill? Three months ago? Is that all it takes to call them vintage these days... :p

    ahem....it came with 'vintage blacks' dutifully installed and modded by sir whiskytango ;)

    and while it seems like three months ago it was only one month ago (i've only been here for two) 8)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:24:58
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:21:38
    When did you buy that Rosewill? Three months ago? Is that all it takes to call them vintage these days... :p
    You know what they say about assuming...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:26:15
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:24:58
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:21:38
    When did you buy that Rosewill? Three months ago? Is that all it takes to call them vintage these days... :p
    You know what they say about assuming...

    small fry needs something for getting to 6000 posts....what would be a proper prize?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:27:12
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:21:38
    When did you buy that Rosewill? Three months ago? Is that all it takes to call them vintage these days... :p

    If I'm right, it was originally mine. I gave whiskeytango a Rosewill that I had harvested of switches. He took some vintage blacks from an old WYSE terminal board, and soldered them in. WT used the board for a while, then sold it for basically the cost of the switches, since he had received the rest of the parts for free. Hopefully if ray4jc ever gets tired of the board, he will pass on the good will. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:28:24
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:24:58
    You know what they say about assuming...

    Feeling a bit bitter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:29:12
    Quote from: ray4jc on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:26:15
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:24:58
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:21:38
    When did you buy that Rosewill? Three months ago? Is that all it takes to call them vintage these days... :p
    You know what they say about assuming...

    small fry needs something for getting to 6000 posts....what would be a proper prize?
    People to get of my ass all ****ing day long. Home, online, everywhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:29:46
    My word, you guys... I was joking about the state of "vintage" these days!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:30:34
    Not just you, moose...not just you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:35:57
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:30:34
    Not just you, moose...not just you.
    But your avatar; he is so happy...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:36:34
    Quote from: dadgh on Thu, 30 May 2013, 23:09:48
    Quote from: The_Beast on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:28:34
    Quote from: dadgh on Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:24:31
    My MX Black Filco TKL makes a "ping" noise on key release, my Choc Mini with MX Reds never did this. How can I prevent this noise? Both boards have O-rings already.

    More than likely because one is plate mount (filco) and the other is PCB mount

    I'd like to mention that this was incorrect advice and I ended up wasting $70+ on Clear PCB switches because of it. Not saying it's his fault... but it was the reason I made the purchase.

    All Noppoo Choc Minis are plate mounted and all Filcos are plate mounted (obviously).

    Wait, what the ****?

    I simply told you that the Filco has a plate and the Choc Mini didn't. I never told you to buy $70 on switches or even hinted that you would need new switches to fix the pinging issues you have.


    So, I guess, don't blame me for your mistake
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:56:11
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:29:46
    My word, you guys... I was joking about the state of "vintage" these days!

    hopefully I will find some actual 'vintage' IBM boards when I go visit my parents in a month or so



    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:29:12
    Quote from: ray4jc on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:26:15
    small fry needs something for getting to 6000 posts....what would be a proper prize?
    People to get of my ass all ****ing day long. Home, online, everywhere.

    bro I wasn't bashing or anything I just wanted to send you a gift for getting to 6000 posts  :'(

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:27:12

    If I'm right, it was originally mine. I gave whiskeytango a Rosewill that I had harvested of switches. He took some vintage blacks from an old WYSE terminal board, and soldered them in. WT used the board for a while, then sold it for basically the cost of the switches, since he had received the rest of the parts for free. Hopefully if ray4jc ever gets tired of the board, he will pass on the good will. :D

    yes I actually already offered it to someone for a little less than i paid just the other day but then i decided i better keep it since its the only other full size board i have at the moment...but yes it will go for a good price IF I ever sell it. But now that I now it was once owned by jdcarpe I want $400 j/k :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:09:18
    Quote from: ray4jc on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:56:11
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:29:12
    Quote from: ray4jc on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:26:15
    small fry needs something for getting to 6000 posts....what would be a proper prize?
    People to get of my ass all ****ing day long. Home, online, everywhere.

    bro I wasn't bashing or anything I just wanted to send you a gift for getting to 6000 posts  :'(
    I understand, sorry. I am just rather sick of people at the moment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:31:28
    I know that SP makes keys in high gloss and matte finishes. Has there ever been a set made in high-gloss finish to avoid uneven shine over time?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:35:04
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:31:28
    I know that SP makes keys in high gloss and matte finishes. Has there ever been a set made in high-gloss finish to avoid uneven shine over time?

    I wasnt aware that SP made caps in different finishes. I've only ever seen caps in what I'm assuming is the matte finish. This is an interesting idea though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:37:25
    I believe SP's SA-profile sphericals have smooth tops with no texture.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:42:34
    Yes I was reading about it here: http://keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php

    I am guessing any finish can apply to any profile. And yes, the sphercials do look smooth with no texture, but I'm not sure if that is considered high gloss or just a side-effect of the manufacturing process. From what I've seen they just don't look shiny enough.

    Quote
    Touch area finishes are typically semi-glossy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:42:08
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:09:18
    I understand, sorry. I am just rather sick of people at the moment.
    (https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2958505216/h2FC3C7F9/)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:43:31
    Has there ever been/Is there a thread where people posted there ages? Or perhaps their occupations? Or are we all to anonemoose for that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:46:25
    I've seen one in the past, I don't recall where though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:50:12
    there should be another :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:50:46
    Quote from: ray4jc on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:43:31
    Has there ever been/Is there a thread where people posted there ages? Or perhaps their occupations? Or are we all to anonemoose for that?


    There are two kinda current threads. I found a one from 2009 but decided I didn't want to encourage the necro-threads :P

    What do you do? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39397.0)

    Dayjobs (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37142.0)

    And if you work in the union skilled trades, there's a post that was started by melvang (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43237.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:52:43
    I think we need an age range poll thread....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:53:25
    What does it matter how old people are? Curious as to your thought process.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:53:28
    There was one of those too.
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:53:25
    What does it matter how old people are? Curious as to your thought process.
    Likely just curious. Becoming part of community often makes people interested in their surroundings.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:57:13
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:53:28
    There was one of those too.
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:53:25
    What does it matter how old people are? Curious as to your thought process.
    Likely just curious. Becoming part of community often makes people interested in their surroundings.

    curiosity

    i wanna know how old some people are as well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:57:22
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14366.0
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40708.0
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=5929.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:59:41
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:00:33
    Here, how bout this. Pay shipping for the board to me and back, and I'll swap the clears (or ergo-clears depending on what you like) for free.

    Depending on where you live I could probably drop it off at your house (I'm in WI too). I'll PM you about it later.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:00:37
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:53:28
    Likely just curious. Becoming part of community often makes people interested in their surroundings.

    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:24:58
    You know what they say about assuming...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:02:11
    Quote from: dadgh on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:59:41
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:00:33
    Here, how bout this. Pay shipping for the board to me and back, and I'll swap the clears (or ergo-clears depending on what you like) for free.

    Depending on where you live I could probably drop it off at your house (I'm in WI too). I'll PM you about it later.

    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:00:33
    Here, how bout this. Pay shipping for the board to me and back, and I'll swap the clears (or ergo-clears depending on what you like) for free.

    Seriously. I'm tired of posting this. Stop trading/bartering/handling business in this thread. Please use PMs. I don't want this thread circumventing the 60 post rule and I don't want there being precedents saying that others did it so they can do it here too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:07:03
    How do I get this thread to not show up when I click on the "Show new replies to your posts." link?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:17:23
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:00:37
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:53:28
    Likely just curious. Becoming part of community often makes people interested in their surroundings.

    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:24:58
    You know what they say about assuming...
    Yup, I've been made into an ass lately. **** it.
    CPTBadAss, sorry. I didn't mean to, I meant more to offer to fix the mistake than anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:19:27
    6000 get
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:19:32
    I just got my Hakko 888, anyone else come with a already wet sponge?


    I think it's hilarious that they ship it with a wet sponge
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:20:54
    Quote from: Greystoke on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:07:03
    How do I get this thread to not show up when I click on the "Show new replies to your posts." link?

    Just unsubscribe when you get the next notice in your email.  Or, you can unsubscribe in your Profile area.

    Click on your name/id, mouse over "Modify Profile",  click on "Notifications, check the box on the right side of the thread that you want to unnotify, and scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on "Unnotify".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:21:41
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:19:27
    6000 get
    Woo... :/ feels good...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:23:28
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:17:23
    CPTBadAss, sorry. I didn't mean to, I meant more to offer to fix the mistake than anything.

    It's all right.

    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:21:41
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:19:27
    6000 get
    Woo... :/ feels good...

    Congrats on 6K SmallFry!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:29:21
    Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:21:41
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:19:27
    6000 get
    Woo... :/ feels good...

    (http://i.imgur.com/iz6lqN5.png)

    i believe this was the 6000th post
    congrats small!  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:32:14
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:53:25
    What does it matter how old people are? Curious as to your thought process.

    pure demographic curiosity  :-*

    and I hate to say this but sometimes having an idea of someones age helps understand where they are coming from  ???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:33:44
    I think people would use the knowledge to dismiss people more than anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:36:26
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:33:44
    I think people would use the knowledge to dismiss people more than anything.

    Actually, I would like to know a member's age before entering into any buy/sale/contractual agreement. Excepting a few trusted members, I'm going to make it a policy not to transact business with anyone under 18. Especially when sending money to someone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:40:11
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:33:44
    I think people would use the knowledge to dismiss people more than anything.

    I don't know I've ran across some really smart 15 year olds and some hard to understand 50 years olds but I get the idea.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:36:26
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:33:44
    I think people would use the knowledge to dismiss people more than anything.

    Actually, I would like to know a member's age before entering into any buy/sale/contractual agreement. Excepting a few trusted members, I'm going to make it a policy not to transact business with anyone under 18. Especially when sending money to someone.

    ^^ I didn't want to say it like that but if I'm selling something to a kid who got the money out of his mom's purse then yeah that could be an issue :o
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:48:31
    Sounds like this should be taken to a new off topic thread ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:06:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:48:31
    Sounds like this should be taken to a new off topic thread ^__^

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44177.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44177.0)

    done :p

    before long people are just going to say, should I just start a new thread about ________?  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:13:30
    Quote from: therecorder on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:20:54
    Quote from: Greystoke on Fri, 31 May 2013, 11:07:03
    How do I get this thread to not show up when I click on the "Show new replies to your posts." link?

    Just unsubscribe when you get the next notice in your email.  Or, you can unsubscribe in your Profile area.

    Click on your name/id, mouse over "Modify Profile",  click on "Notifications, check the box on the right side of the thread that you want to unnotify, and scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on "Unnotify".

    There are two links under the "Hello Greystoke" text in the upper left corner of the forum view; "Show unread posts since last visit." and "Show new replies to your posts."

    Clicking on the second link brings up unread posts for every single topic thread I have ever posted in.  These are not threads I have opted to get Notifications for, these are just ones where I have posted.

    Is there any way to remove threads/topics from this category?  Or are we forced to switch over to the "Watched/Unwatched" options in order to effect the same result?

    Or is this not a "Simple Question?"  In that case, where should I post my question?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:56:21
    Using the Watched feature will allow you to 'unwatch' a topic. Transfering to Watches is recommended by Rknize.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:26:12
    For pictures on this forum, how do I put a SMALL thumbnail and when clicked on, it expands out to full size? I use either photobucket or imgur and they do not have this option, neither does this forum. The thumbnails are always too big.

    But I think I've seen someone (jdcarpe?) resize a thumbnail, and when clicked on, it's full size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:29:35
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:26:12
    For pictures on this forum, how do I put a SMALL thumbnail and when clicked on, it expands out to full size? I use either photobucket or imgur and they do not have this option, neither does this forum. The thumbnails are always too big.

    But I think I've seen someone (jdcarpe?) resize a thumbnail, and when clicked on, it's full size.

    Use WIDTH and/or HEIGHT size tags with the IMG tag.

    (http://i.imgur.com/jVmZwNE.png)

    Code: [Select]
    [img width=80]http://i.imgur.com/jVmZwNE.png[/img]

    If you only use one or the other, the system will adjust the missing size tag based upon the image's aspect ratio.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hypercrush on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:37:07
    I just took delivery of a TKL MJ2 Filco w/ Browns an hour ago and while I like it, I don't LOVE it as much as I thought I was going to.

    I'm used to typing on a Razer Tarantula and the keystroke travel was almost non existent after the activation point.

    Would adding o-rings help minimize the post activation travel and the 'bottoming out' sound?

    If so, which o-rings should I try? What's the best place to get them? I see WASD has them for $17.99, but that seems kind of pricey for what it is.

    Thanks in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:40:21
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:29:35
    Show Image
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:26:12
    For pictures on this forum, how do I put a SMALL thumbnail and when clicked on, it expands out to full size? I use either photobucket or imgur and they do not have this option, neither does this forum. The thumbnails are always too big.

    But I think I've seen someone (jdcarpe?) resize a thumbnail, and when clicked on, it's full size.

    Use WIDTH and/or HEIGHT size tags with the IMG tag.

    (http://i.imgur.com/jVmZwNE.png) (http://i.imgur.com/jVmZwNE.png)

    Code: [Select]
    [img width=80]http://i.imgur.com/jVmZwNE.png[/img]

    If you only use one or the other, the system will adjust the missing size tag based upon the image's aspect ratio.

    Thats some handy info JD, I did not realize we could use size in the img tag here.

    I think there should be a posting guide that covers these things as well as useful codes. But at the least this could go in the OP!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:42:13
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:29:35
    Use WIDTH and/or HEIGHT size tags with the IMG tag.

    (http://i.imgur.com/jSiuJXV.png) (http://i.imgur.com/jSiuJXV.png)

    Thanks! It wasn't a button I can just click so I never knew about this tag. Anymore cool hidden forum features like this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:44:05
    Quote from: hypercrush on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:37:07
    I just took delivery of a TKL MJ2 Filco w/ Browns an hour ago and while I like it, I don't LOVE it as much as I thought I was going to.

    I'm used to typing on a Razer Tarantula and the keystroke travel was almost non existent after the activation point.

    Would adding o-rings help minimize the post activation travel and the 'bottoming out' sound?

    If so, which o-rings should I try? What's the best place to get them? I see WASD has them for $17.99, but that seems kind of pricey for what it is.

    Thanks in advance.

    Yes O-rings will help in your troubles.  I have the red ones but removed them because i didn't like the feel.  And i tried them for a few months or so.  But I didn't get them until after having my Das keyboard with browns for a couple years.  PM me and we can work something out.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:13:28
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:42:13
    Show Image
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:29:35
    Use WIDTH and/or HEIGHT size tags with the IMG tag.

    (http://i.imgur.com/jSiuJXV.png) (http://i.imgur.com/jSiuJXV.png)

    Thanks! It wasn't a button I can just click so I never knew about this tag. Anymore cool hidden forum features like this?

    Anytime I'm curious, I just hit quote on peoples posts and see how the tags look. Then I play around with them in preview.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hypercrush on Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:34:35
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:44:05
    Quote from: hypercrush on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:37:07
    I just took delivery of a TKL MJ2 Filco w/ Browns an hour ago and while I like it, I don't LOVE it as much as I thought I was going to.

    I'm used to typing on a Razer Tarantula and the keystroke travel was almost non existent after the activation point.

    Would adding o-rings help minimize the post activation travel and the 'bottoming out' sound?

    If so, which o-rings should I try? What's the best place to get them? I see WASD has them for $17.99, but that seems kind of pricey for what it is.

    Thanks in advance.

    Yes O-rings will help in your troubles.  I have the red ones but removed them because i didn't like the feel.  And i tried them for a few months or so.  But I didn't get them until after having my Das keyboard with browns for a couple years.  PM me and we can work something out.

    Melvang

    Thanks for the offer.

    I'm just unsure if I'd benefit more from the blue o-rings to take up a little bit of the post activation travel.

    Anyone input would be appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:40:06
    If you check the Wiki in my signature, you can check out my review on o-rings.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hypercrush on Fri, 31 May 2013, 17:47:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:40:06
    If you check the Wiki in my signature, you can check out my review on o-rings.

    Thanks for that.

    I'm still kind of torn though. The long post actuation travel is probably my biggest issue, so do you think I'd be better served by the blue o-rings?

    I know you said it felt like the post travel stopped right after activation with the red o-rings, but you were using blue mx's, right? I'm guessing the effect would be different with my brown mx's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 18:34:01
    Quote from: hypercrush on Fri, 31 May 2013, 17:47:01
    I know you said it felt like the post travel stopped right after activation with the red o-rings, but you were using blue mx's, right? I'm guessing the effect would be different with my brown mx's.

    Yes I used MX Blues. And to me, all MX switches have the same actuation point so the effect should be the same across the board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Fri, 31 May 2013, 20:28:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 31 May 2013, 15:29:35
    Use WIDTH and/or HEIGHT size tags with the IMG tag.

    Thanks dude, I used this for my classified add.  ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 31 May 2013, 20:49:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 May 2013, 18:34:01
    Quote from: hypercrush on Fri, 31 May 2013, 17:47:01
    I know you said it felt like the post travel stopped right after activation with the red o-rings, but you were using blue mx's, right? I'm guessing the effect would be different with my brown mx's.

    Yes I used MX Blues. And to me, all MX switches have the same actuation point so the effect should be the same across the board.

    I can confirm this according to Cherry Corps stat sheets for all their MX switches they are right at 4mm total travel with actuation point at 2mm of travel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 June 2013, 13:28:56
    I'm tired of the oddly spaced stabilizers on my FC700R's spacebar (I have to use the stock spacebar or putty mod each spacebar I want to use on the FC700R).

    If I swap in a TKL plate from the Phantom buy/WFD, will I be able to use normal 6.25x spacebars from say SP?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 01 June 2013, 14:07:07
    Phantom plate won't work with the Leopold case. The only placement you can get for your Leopold is my universal TKL plate, but I do not have anymore right now :( . I'll run a small round 2 though, because I know several people have been waiting for these for a while.

    I think I posted this in your review thread. But here is a Leopold I built for someone a while ago. It has a hybrid mounting of the Costar and Cherry stabilizer. The cherry stabs is for the weird Leopold spacebar, the costar stabs was for the any normal 6.25x spacebar. You really only need one of these, but the guy wanted me to build it where he can change between his Leopold spacebar or any other spacebar with just a quick swap.


    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_IMG_2635.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_2635.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/th_IMG_2633_edited.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/IMG_2633_edited.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: daerid on Sat, 01 June 2013, 14:44:41
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 30 May 2013, 07:50:38
    So I know this is probably a 'stupid' question because everyone else knows, but is the only purpose of soldering all the diodes on a board like the phantom just for NKRO?

    Could they be left out??

    I'm so ignorant  :-X

    It's more than that. It has to do with how a matrix generates the scan codes. Without the diodes, current could flow in both directions, which for some key presses would confuse the controller.

    For example, without the diodes pressing 'a' and 'f' at the same tim might register a 'q'.

    There's better explanations out on the net. I'd provide one, but I'm posting from my phone :-(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 01 June 2013, 19:37:34
    I've got one! (promise it's not a trick question)

    Why is it that every time someone tries to describe how "solid" their mechanical keyboard is, they say it's "built like a tank, and you could kill someone with it".

    I don't know how many times I've read that now, in nearly those exact words :rolleyes:  It should pretty much bet the mechanical keyboard motto at this point.  Like on Corsair's K90 ads and such.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 01 June 2013, 20:50:20
    Anyone know the dimensions on the Phantom plate and PCB?  And if the PCB is offset from the plate or is it centered?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 June 2013, 20:57:22
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sat, 01 June 2013, 19:37:34
    I've got one! (promise it's not a trick question)

    Why is it that every time someone tries to describe how "solid" their mechanical keyboard is, they say it's "built like a tank, and you could kill someone with it".

    It's the cliche the community decided to use? Why is the cliche "smooth like butter" or "runs like a champ"?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 01 June 2013, 21:00:17
    I see it on multiple boards, and it keeps on propagating :). Just thought it was funny.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UniClown on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:30:47
    Can anyone give me their input on my dilemma?

    I am wondering if I should get the Dolch ABS keycaps from originative or the thick PBT caps from the R2 GB. I know the differences between ABS and PBT however, I have tried neither as my first keyboard is in the mail. Any help would be appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:49:32
    Quote from: UniClown on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:30:47
    Can anyone give me their input on my dilemma?

    I am wondering if I should get the Dolch ABS keycaps from originative or the thick PBT caps from the R2 GB. I know the differences between ABS and PBT however, I have tried neither as my first keyboard is in the mail. Any help would be appreciated.

    I LOVE thick, doubleshot ABS caps so I'll recommend those over the R2 GB caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:52:38
    Quote from: UniClown on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:30:47
    Can anyone give me their input on my dilemma?

    I am wondering if I should get the Dolch ABS keycaps from originative or the thick PBT caps from the R2 GB. I know the differences between ABS and PBT however, I have tried neither as my first keyboard is in the mail. Any help would be appreciated.
    From originative 100%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:14:53
    yaaa ABS>PBT
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:42:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:49:32
    Quote from: UniClown on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:30:47
    Can anyone give me their input on my dilemma?

    I am wondering if I should get the Dolch ABS keycaps from originative or the thick PBT caps from the R2 GB. I know the differences between ABS and PBT however, I have tried neither as my first keyboard is in the mail. Any help would be appreciated.

    I LOVE thick, doubleshot ABS caps so I'll recommend those over the R2 GB caps.




    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:14:53
    yaaa ABS>PBT

    Enjoy your shiny caps :)

    PS - Go with Thick PBT UniClown
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:46:03
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:42:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:49:32
    Quote from: UniClown on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:30:47
    Can anyone give me their input on my dilemma?

    I am wondering if I should get the Dolch ABS keycaps from originative or the thick PBT caps from the R2 GB. I know the differences between ABS and PBT however, I have tried neither as my first keyboard is in the mail. Any help would be appreciated.

    I LOVE thick, doubleshot ABS caps so I'll recommend those over the R2 GB caps.




    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:14:53
    yaaa ABS>PBT

    Enjoy your shiny caps :)

    PS - Go with Thick PBT UniClown
    But dolch ain't dolch unless it's gmk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:51:58
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:42:53
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:14:53
    yaaa ABS>PBT

    Enjoy your shiny caps :)

    PS - Go with Thick PBT UniClown

    Thick ABS
    feels soooooo good :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:53:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:46:03
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:42:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:49:32
    Quote from: UniClown on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:30:47
    Can anyone give me their input on my dilemma?

    I am wondering if I should get the Dolch ABS keycaps from originative or the thick PBT caps from the R2 GB. I know the differences between ABS and PBT however, I have tried neither as my first keyboard is in the mail. Any help would be appreciated.

    I LOVE thick, doubleshot ABS caps so I'll recommend those over the R2 GB caps.




    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:14:53
    yaaa ABS>PBT

    Enjoy your shiny caps :)

    PS - Go with Thick PBT UniClown
    But dolch ain't dolch unless it's gmk.


    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:51:58
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:42:53
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:14:53
    yaaa ABS>PBT

    Enjoy your shiny caps :)

    PS - Go with Thick PBT UniClown

    Thick ABS
    feels soooooo good :p

    I will admit that I want to buy a dolch set very badly, but I just can't do it. It'll be ugly to me within weeks :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:01:09
    I want Sherry's Dolch pretty bad...Boost just got a crazy DSA Dolch set from r4, and i think jd posted a link to a korean gb doing Dolch DSA
    hopefully the korean gb is open to us GHers
    i would be in
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:02:51
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:53:31
    I will admit that I want to buy a dolch set very badly, but I just can't do it. It'll be ugly to me within weeks :(

    There is an easy solution to that problem. Put those dolch on a keyboard you don't use and just look at them, or out them into a box and store them away. That's what I do with all my nice keycap sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:05:26
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:01:09
    I want Sherry's Dolch pretty bad...Boost just got a crazy DSA Dolch set from r4, and i think jd posted a link to a korean gb doing Dolch DSA
    hopefully the korean gb is open to us GHers
    i would be in
    Yes, I had a chance to pick up the Dolch DSA but it was as expensive as Sherry's Dolch  :p

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:02:51
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:53:31
    I will admit that I want to buy a dolch set very badly, but I just can't do it. It'll be ugly to me within weeks :(

    There is an easy solution to that problem. Put those dolch on a keyboard you don't use and just look at them, or put them into a box and store them away. That's what I do with all my nice keycap sets.

    This is EXACTLY what I want to avoid lol

    Quote from: esoomenona on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:06:38
    I put EVERYTHING into a box. It's the only way! No shine at all.

    Rofl!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:06:38
    I put EVERYTHING into a box. It's the only way! No shine at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:11:55
    Careful, keep that up and the KMAC might spend more time in a box :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:15:51
    What is this R4 dolch magic?

    I want dolch anything!

    Who can give me an easy answer on the history of dolch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:17:16
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:05:26
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:01:09
    I want Sherry's Dolch pretty bad...Boost just got a crazy DSA Dolch set from r4, and i think jd posted a link to a korean gb doing Dolch DSA
    hopefully the korean gb is open to us GHers
    i would be in
    Yes, I had a chance to pick up the Dolch DSA but it was as expensive as Sherry's Dolch  :p

    Sherrys dolch was 80 one day...then the next day i check it's 90...now i go to check and it's $95

    /sigh
    still will pick up a set when i get the money..cause it's so sexy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:41:10
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:17:16
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:05:26
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:01:09
    I want Sherry's Dolch pretty bad...Boost just got a crazy DSA Dolch set from r4, and i think jd posted a link to a korean gb doing Dolch DSA
    hopefully the korean gb is open to us GHers
    i would be in
    Yes, I had a chance to pick up the Dolch DSA but it was as expensive as Sherry's Dolch  :p

    Sherrys dolch was 80 one day...then the next day i check it's 90...now i go to check and it's $95

    /sigh
    still will pick up a set when i get the money..cause it's so sexy

    Its been 95 for a few weeks at least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moomoo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:56:37
    Could you re-colour your korean customs? What would happen to value?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:01:09
    Quote from: Moomoo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:56:37
    Could you re-colour your korean customs? What would happen to value?
    They are coloured by a process called anodisation. To put it simply it adds a protective layer that can be dyed a colour. You need to find a place that can remove the anodising and re-anodise it. Prices will vary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:34:13
    I know I wasn't drinking but did I miss the fact this thread is not stickied??

    Maybe my wife is right.....I'm losing it  ???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:49:26
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:34:13
    I know I wasn't drinking but did I miss the fact this thread is not stickied??

    I'm on my phone so I can't really check but last I saw, this thread isn't stickied.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:54:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:49:26
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:34:13
    I know I wasn't drinking but did I miss the fact this thread is not stickied??

    I'm on my phone so I can't really check but last I saw, this thread isn't stickied.

    It is now bro!!!!

    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 03 June 2013, 07:54:18
    And it only took 75 pages of replies to get there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 June 2013, 08:12:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 June 2013, 07:54:18
    And it only took 75 pages of replies to get there.


    That's actually relative since for me it shows page 45....depends on how many posts you show per page in the settngs....has confused me a few times....;)

    But over 2000 replies....yes that is a lot of helping people for one  thread!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 08:19:45
    Oooo, that's fancy! :D  I'm really excited ^__^. Thanks everyone for making this thread a success!!

    Edit: I'll add this to the OP later :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:19:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:41:10
    Its been 95 for a few weeks at least.

    Back when i ordered a set from him about 2 weeks ago it was actually $80 :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:25:30
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:19:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:41:10
    Its been 95 for a few weeks at least.

    Back when i ordered a set from him about 2 weeks ago it was actually $80 :p

    hmmmm, well I message him on May 19th which was two weeks ago and he said it wasn't available for $80 anymore :eek:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:27:54
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:25:30
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:19:37
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:41:10
    Its been 95 for a few weeks at least.

    Back when i ordered a set from him about 2 weeks ago it was actually $80 :p

    hmmmm, well I message him on May 19th which was two weeks ago and he said it wasn't available for $80 anymore :eek:

    yup, it was just about then that the listing on his site started to change..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:33:50
    Is there a way to disassemble  (easily, from the outside) an mx switch with a led on it, or are those always soldered? I noticed at the top-base of them and bottom-base they have a little plastic pin in the middle that can be pushed inside. Is that relevant?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:41:20
    No, LED stops the top from coming off. You will have to desolder it first.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:59:49
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:15:51
    What is this R4 dolch magic?

    Who can give me an easy answer on the history of dolch?

    Quickie history on Dolch boards (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Dolch#Dolch). They made the Dolch 65 PAC board which is really nice. I tried one with vintage blues at the Chicago meetup.

    R4 = Round 4. There has been 4 rounds of Dolch replica Group Buys. The last one was run by 7Bit. More info on R4 can be found here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/R4). Not sure what the difference between all the Rounds are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UniClown on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:11:06
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:46:03
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:42:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:49:32
    Quote from: UniClown on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:30:47
    Can anyone give me their input on my dilemma?

    I am wondering if I should get the Dolch ABS keycaps from originative or the thick PBT caps from the R2 GB. I know the differences between ABS and PBT however, I have tried neither as my first keyboard is in the mail. Any help would be appreciated.

    I LOVE thick, doubleshot ABS caps so I'll recommend those over the R2 GB caps.




    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:14:53
    yaaa ABS>PBT

    Enjoy your shiny caps :)

    PS - Go with Thick PBT UniClown
    But dolch ain't dolch unless it's gmk.

    Originative's caps are made by gmk.

    Also, I plan on not keeping mine in a closet  ;)  so I am leaning towards R2 GB. But the dolch scheme is too goddam sexy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:15:05
    Quote from: UniClown on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:11:06
    Originative's caps are made by gmk.

    Also, I plan on not keeping mine in a closet  ;)  so I am leaning towards R2 GB. But the dolch scheme is too goddam sexy.

    Isn't the R2 GB you keep referring to a Dolch replica set? GMK's is thick doubleshot ABS from the original Cherry molds while the replica sets were from Signature Plastics. So isn't R2 GB thin SP ABS?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:15:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:15:05
    Quote from: UniClown on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:11:06
    Originative's caps are made by gmk.

    Also, I plan on not keeping mine in a closet  ;)  so I am leaning towards R2 GB. But the dolch scheme is too goddam sexy.

    Isn't the R2 GB you keep referring to a Dolch replica set? GMK's is thick doubleshot ABS from the original Cherry molds while the replica sets were from Signature Plastics. So isn't R2 GB thin SP ABS?

    R2 GB is for Imsto Thick PBT  :p

    Link - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:20:39
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:15:35
    R2 GB is for Imsto Thick PBT  :p

    Link - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0



    Oh THAT R2...hard to judge what R2 we're talking about. For all I know, it couldve been Beast's switch tools. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:22:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:20:39
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:15:35
    R2 GB is for Imsto Thick PBT  :p

    Link - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0



    Oh THAT R2...hard to judge what R2 we're talking about. For all I know, it couldve been Beast's switch tools. :P

    Quote from: UniClown on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:30:47
    Can anyone give me their input on my dilemma?

    I am wondering if I should get the Dolch ABS keycaps from originative or the thick PBT caps from the R2 GB. I know the differences between ABS and PBT however, I have tried neither as my first keyboard is in the mail. Any help would be appreciated.

    Context & reading comprehension, I has it  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:34:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:59:49
    Quote from: ray4jc on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:15:51
    What is this R4 dolch magic?

    Who can give me an easy answer on the history of dolch?

    Quickie history on Dolch boards (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Dolch#Dolch). They made the Dolch 65 PAC board which is really nice. I tried one with vintage blues at the Chicago meetup.

    R4 = Round 4. There has been 4 rounds of Dolch replica Group Buys. The last one was run by 7Bit. More info on R4 can be found here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/R4). Not sure what the difference between all the Rounds are.

    I had no idea R4 had anything to do with dolch!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:39:00
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:22:16
    Context & reading comprehension, I has it  :p

    English might be my main language now but it wasn't my first language. :P

    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:34:08
    I had no idea R4 had anything to do with dolch!

    R4 just shipped to typically when people say R4, they are referring to the Dolch replica set.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:40:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:39:00
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:22:16
    Context & reading comprehension, I has it  :p

    English might be my main language now but it wasn't my first language. :P

    Actually it's more related to memory, but I'm just messing with you anyway :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:43:04
    I know haha, I'm just kidding too ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 03 June 2013, 20:23:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:39:00
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:22:16
    Context & reading comprehension, I has it  :p

    English might be my main language now but it wasn't my first language. :P

    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:34:08
    I had no idea R4 had anything to do with dolch!

    R4 just shipped to typically when people say R4, they are referring to the Dolch replica set.


    R4 included a lot more than just the Dolch themed set also. LOTS of novelties, and a few other base sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 03 June 2013, 20:51:56
    Eh, no. That would be IIPBTR2 sillyhead!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moomoo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 21:34:47
    Can you change the PS/2 to USB connector on "The Cheat" without problem and What are phantom PCB (remove cherries without soldering/desolder?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 21:37:43
    Quote from: Moomoo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 21:34:47
    Can you change the PS/2 to USB connector on "The Cheat" without problem and What are phantom PCB (remove cherries without soldering/desolder?)

    1. Yes
    2. Yes

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 21:39:28
    Quote from: Moomoo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 21:34:47
    1) Can you change the PS/2 to USB connector on "The Cheat" without problem

    2) What are phantom PCB (remove cherries without soldering/desolder?)

    1) I don't see why you can't change the PS/2 connector. Just be careful? Or use an adapter.

    2) I'm not quite sure what you're asking but there are cut-outs in the Phantom plate which allows you to remove Cherry switches without soldering or desoldering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moomoo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 21:47:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 June 2013, 21:39:28
    Quote from: Moomoo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 21:34:47
    1) Can you change the PS/2 to USB connector on "The Cheat" without problem

    2) What are phantom PCB (remove cherries without soldering/desolder?)

    1) I don't see why you can't change the PS/2 connector. Just be careful? Or use an adapter.

    2) I'm not quite sure what you're asking but there are cut-outs in the Phantom plate which allows you to remove Cherry switches without soldering or desoldering.


    That's pretty sweet, GH communities are freaking geniuses. Just thought I'd ask the question seems legit especially if you want to try new switches without having to spend 19 million hours to switch cherries.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:23:27
    Noob question: PCB-mounted switches can or cannot be mounted on boards with plates?  And the other way around, can plate-mounted switches be attached successfully to boards without a plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:24:17
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:23:27
    Noob question: PCB-mounted switches can or cannot be mounted on boards with plates?  And the other way around, can plate-mounted switches be attached successfully to boards without a plate?

    You can put PCB mount switches onto a plate mounted board, given that the PCB has the holes to support the pins. If not, you can easily just break off the pins, which obviously isn't reversible.

    Plate mounted switches cannot be attached to boards without plates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:24:48
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:23:27
    Noob question: PCB-mounted switches can or cannot be mounted on boards with plates?  And the other way around, can plate-mounted switches be attached successfully to boards without a plate?

    First question, yes assuming the PCB has the holes for the nubs. If not you can can cut the plastic nubs off.
    Second question, no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:27:12
    Ok, so the reason I ask is for buying Clear switches.  If I get an older batch, it may be PCB-mounted kind.  So I'm okay.  But if I get a new kind, those seem to mostly be for plate-mounting, so I have to be careful which keyboards to look for on the cheap to be converted to clears.  This is all theoretical, as I'll probably just get a Ducky with Clears, but... I hate that it's not TKL, so I'm exploring my options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:28:22
    Well, plate mount switches CAN be mounted to a PCB without a plate. However, you have to alight the switches very carefully since you don't have the pins to use for alignment. If you don't alight them right, you could get binding issues, because the caps would be at an angle.

    kmiller used plate mounts on his GH60 prototype, but the alignment was off and it looked terribad


    When in doubt, buy PCB mount (Hey it rhymes kinda)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:29:44
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:28:22
    kmiller

    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:28:22
    terribad

    Hmm...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:32:30
    For those who have done it,how much work/time is it to clip those legs off say ~100 switches??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:34:51
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:32:30
    For those who have done it,how much work/time is it to clip those legs off say ~100 switches??

    Shouldn't take long.

    Do you HAVE to clip off the legs? BTW, are the stems still in them or are them empty switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:35:48
    Just one related question.... Can I put a plate on the PCB mounted switches? That is, can I put a plate on a board already mounted with PCB mounted switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:43:39
    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:34:51
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:32:30
    For those who have done it,how much work/time is it to clip those legs off say ~100 switches??

    Shouldn't take long.

    Do you HAVE to clip off the legs? BTW, are the stems still in them or are them empty switches?

    I got all those clears in the auction and wanted to use them in my phantom but the phantom needs plate mount switches...so yeah I hate to cut all those legs off....they are still in the bag they came in appear to be brand new pcb mount

    Quote from: linziyi on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:35:48
    Just one related question.... Can I put a plate on the PCB mounted switches? That is, can I put a plate on a board already mounted with PCB mounted switches?

    not without desoldering and soldering back
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:49:21
    If this has been asked before, I apologize.  Are there any TKL keyboards that come stock with MX Clears?  Other than future CM QFRs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:50:45
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:49:21
    If this has been asked before, I apologize.  Are there any TKL keyboards that come stock with MX Clears?  Other than future CM QFRs?

    The PURE I think, I saw someone posting a picture of it eariler in this thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:51:51
    That's not TKL though.  I'm not ready for 60% and similar yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Tue, 04 June 2013, 01:55:00
    Whats a good taobao agent? Bhiner seems to be doing some fishy things lately, I could be wrong though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 04 June 2013, 02:13:10
    Quote from: calavera on Tue, 04 June 2013, 01:55:00
    Whats a good taobao agent? Bhiner seems to be doing some fishy things lately, I could be wrong though.

    I too would like to know this after Bhiner majorly messed up my order and tried getting me to pay a ton in shipping to correct it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 04 June 2013, 02:13:24
    Quote from: calavera on Tue, 04 June 2013, 01:55:00
    Whats a good taobao agent? Bhiner seems to be doing some fishy things lately, I could be wrong though.

    Agreed. I've personally never had a problem with them, but I know of at least two people (nubbinator and WFD) who had orders shipped in two separate packages when they could have shipped them together. No idea on other agents =/

    Edit - The only reason I went with them in the first place, was due to someone raving about them in the "what did you get in the mail today thread" from awhile ago.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 04 June 2013, 03:01:00
    That reminds me, they never even bothered to ship the second part of my order. The split order shouldn't have been a mistake in the first place  ::)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moomoo on Tue, 04 June 2013, 05:33:25
    Has anyone tried panda clears? (Clear stems - non clicky with black springs) How do they feel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 06:36:49
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:32:30
    For those who have done it,how much work/time is it to clip those legs off say ~100 switches??

    Took me less than 10 minutes to clip legs off of 30 switches. Its really not a big deal.

    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 03 June 2013, 23:49:21
    If this has been asked before, I apologize.  Are there any TKL keyboards that come stock with MX Clears?  Other than future CM QFRs?

    I think Leopold FC200Rs came in clears since I've seen a few floating around.

    Quote from: Moomoo on Tue, 04 June 2013, 05:33:25
    Has anyone tried panda clears? (Clear stems - non clicky with black springs) How do they feel?

    I think they'd feel like a heavier version of 62g or 65g (Korean spring) ergo-clears. It seems like the same concept as ergo-clears: Put a lighter spring into a switch with a clear stem. But I don't think I've tried them. Maybe the Universal Switch Tester had them but I don't recall what they felt like if they did.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 June 2013, 06:40:01
    Quote from: calavera on Tue, 04 June 2013, 01:55:00
    Whats a good taobao agent? Bhiner seems to be doing some fishy things lately, I could be wrong though.

     
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 04 June 2013, 02:13:10
    Quote from: calavera on Tue, 04 June 2013, 01:55:00
    Whats a good taobao agent? Bhiner seems to be doing some fishy things lately, I could be wrong though.

    I too would like to know this after Bhiner majorly messed up my order and tried getting me to pay a ton in shipping to correct it.

    I'm still trying out Bhiner, seems odd I ordered something, a week later nothing so I messaged them and then the next day the item was ready for second payment....so I'm not sure if it was coincidence or what.

    Also I have been trying out MisterTao with the intent of writing up a review on my TaoBao buying experience but right now I'm very unhappy with them, they left out ~$22 worth of stuff out of my order and basically told me, too bad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 04 June 2013, 08:29:26
    I don't care for clears much. It's been awhile since I tried them, but I do remember thinking with black springs were the least terrible. Stock was way too heavy, and I seemed to notice reset issues with lighter springs that put me off. Black springs clears with stock clear on the spacebar I thought was the sweetspot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 08:51:16
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 04 June 2013, 08:29:26
    I don't care for clears much. It's been awhile since I tried them, but I do remember thinking with black springs were the least terrible. Stock was way too heavy, and I seemed to notice reset issues with lighter springs that put me off. Black springs clears with stock clear on the spacebar I thought was the sweetspot.

    The lighter spring (like 55g) ergo-clears board I tried also had reset issues and the modifiers would stick. I've been told lubing helps but I was also put off as well. I think the Black Spring Panda-clears might be nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fateswarm on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:02:05
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:41:20
    No, LED stops the top from coming off. You will have to desolder it first.
    I guess only the insane would disassemble them then just to lube them periodically.

    Dropping the oil above it will have to do I guess.  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:12:29
    Quote from: fateswarm on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:02:05
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 03 June 2013, 17:41:20
    No, LED stops the top from coming off. You will have to desolder it first.
    I guess only the insane would disassemble them then just to lube them periodically.

    That scared to mod your board? Soldering and desoldering comes with the hobby :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:15:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:12:29
    That scared to mod your board? Soldering and desoldering comes with the hobby :D
    I'm pretty sure that I saw you say that you didn't even have a soldering iron  :)) I might be wrong though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:26:00
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:15:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:12:29
    That scared to mod your board? Soldering and desoldering comes with the hobby :D
    I'm pretty sure that I saw you say that you didn't even have a soldering iron  :)) I might be wrong though.

    Just bought a Hakko and I've been taking apart boards to build my TKL Alps board. I'm extremely confident in my soldering skills too thank you very much :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:42:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:26:00
    Just bought a Hakko and I've been taking apart boards to build my TKL Alps board. I'm extremely confident in my soldering skills too thank you very much :P
    Nice get! ;D What's this TKL alps board?  :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:44:18
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:42:51
    What's this TKL alps board?  :eek:

    My Wiki has some details but I'm making my own TKL Alps board. Naming it the Tofu101. Check it out in my signature. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:45:45
    does anyone know someone that can make custom alps plates?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:46:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:44:18
    My Wiki has some details but I'm making my own TKL Alps board. Naming it the Tofu101. Check it out in my signature. :D
    How the hell did I miss this!? I look forward to seeing it! At a later date I think I'm going make myself a plate that supports alps for the TEK-80 and do a direct wiring teensy job.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:50:57
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:46:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:44:18
    My Wiki has some details but I'm making my own TKL Alps board. Naming it the Tofu101. Check it out in my signature. :D
    How the hell did I miss this!? I look forward to seeing it! At a later date I think I'm going make myself a plate that supports alps for the TEK-80 and do a direct wiring teensy job.

    Thanks! I've been keeping it on the DL since I'm not at a place in the project where I'm comfortable with showing off what I've done. I will post a build log when I progress a little more. I will admit the teensy is a bit intimidating since I'm so bad with coding so I avoiding that route. I hope to learn enough at a later point to learn to code a teensy.

    Quote from: domoaligato on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:45:45
    does anyone know someone that can make custom alps plates?

    The_Beast might be willing to cut you the plate if you can design/draw/model the plate in CAD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: take on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:53:08
    is there any place besides EK to get keysets for my 87U?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:58:44
    Does any company offer thick-PBT ISO enter keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:59:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:50:57
    The_Beast might be willing to cut you the plate if you can design/draw/model the plate in CAD.

    I already asked him via PM a while back and he said he was only doing cherry plates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Tue, 04 June 2013, 13:03:18
    Does any company offer thick-PBT ISO enter keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 13:08:20
    Quote from: take on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:53:08
    is there any place besides EK to get keysets for my 87U?

    Don't think so. But I'm not 100% sure.

    Quote from: SeriouSSpotS on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:58:44
    Does any company offer thick-PBT ISO enter keys?

    You double posted this question and I don't think so. I've never seen a thick-PBT ISO enter. But maybe IvanIvanovitch's R2 Thick PBT buy has an ISO option? That might be your best bet.

    Quote from: domoaligato on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:59:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:50:57
    The_Beast might be willing to cut you the plate if you can design/draw/model the plate in CAD.

    I already asked him via PM a while back and he said he was only doing cherry plates.

    He won't cut you a plate if you gave him a drawing? I think what he meant was he was only designing Cherry plate. If you gave him a CAD file/drawing, I'm sure he'd help you cut a plate. I don't think he has a personal vendetta against Alps boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 04 June 2013, 13:34:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 June 2013, 13:08:20
    He won't cut you a plate if you gave him a drawing? I think what he meant was he was only designing Cherry plate. If you gave him a CAD file/drawing, I'm sure he'd help you cut a plate. I don't think he has a personal vendetta against Alps boards.

    i will get it in CAD and ask him when it is done.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Tue, 04 June 2013, 14:12:11
    Quote from: SeriouSSpotS on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:58:44
    Does any company offer thick-PBT ISO enter keys?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss
    You double posted this question and I don't think so. I've never seen a thick-PBT ISO enter. But maybe IvanIvanovitch's R2 Thick PBT buy has an ISO option? That might be your best bet.

    Thanks for the reply, sorry didn't mean to double post. Tried to delete but couldn't figure out how :P.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 04 June 2013, 23:31:57
    Vintage MX Clear vs "modern" : any noticeable difference, like the smoothness and lightness of vintage MX Black vs recent batches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 04 June 2013, 23:34:35
    What is WYSE? Moogle? GMK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:39:39
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 04 June 2013, 23:34:35
    What is WYSE? Moogle? GMK?

    This is where ripster would have told you to RTFW. But since ripster left and took his wiki with him, the next best thing is the Deskthority wiki. http://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page

    WYSE (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Wyse_PCE)

    Moogle kit (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Moogle_kit#Moogle_kit)

    GMK (http://deskthority.net/wiki/GMK)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:44:09
    I don't know if this is a bad question or not... but
    What happened to Ripster? I heard he is a very dedicated keyboard lover.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:51:12
    He got banned didnt he? I never cared much for his sarcastic posts no matter how informative they were.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:51:19
    Banned for massive trolling .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:00:47
    Noob question, the rows profile on a cherry keyboard like 1800 goes like this, correct?

    Function row = 1
    number/backspace row = 1
    qwerty row = 2
    asd row = 3
    zxc row = 4
    ctrl, alt = 4

    spacebar = 5?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:05:21
    Quote from: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:00:47
    Noob question, the rows profile on a cherry keyboard like 1800 goes like this, correct?

    Function row = 1
    number/backspace row = 1
    qwerty row = 2
    asd row = 3
    zxc row = 4
    ctrl, alt = 4

    spacebar = 5?

    Cherry uses letters :D

    Function row = E (or rarely F)
    number/backspace row = E
    qwerty row = D
    asd row = C
    zxc row = B
    ctrl, alt, spacebar = B (or rarely A)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:07:05
    SP uses row numbers though, so 1 = E?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:12:49
    Quote from: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:07:05
    SP uses row numbers though, so 1 = E?

    Yes, like this (SP only):

    Function row = 1 (or rarely 5)
    number/backspace row = 1
    qwerty row = 2
    asd row = 3
    zxc row = 4
    ctrl, alt, spacebar = 4

    Other companied number like this:

    Function row = 4
    number/backspace row = 4
    qwerty row = 3
    asd row = 2
    zxc row = 1
    ctrl, alt, spacebar = 1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:13:02
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:39:39
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 04 June 2013, 23:34:35
    What is WYSE? Moogle? GMK?

    This is where ripster would have told you to RTFW. But since ripster left and took his wiki with him, the next best thing is the Deskthority wiki. http://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page

    WYSE (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Wyse_PCE)

    Moogle kit (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Moogle_kit#Moogle_kit)

    GMK (http://deskthority.net/wiki/GMK)
    Oh yeah I forgot those existed. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:18:47
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:12:49
    Quote from: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:07:05
    SP uses row numbers though, so 1 = E?

    Yes, like this (SP only):

    Function row = 1 (or rarely 5)
    number/backspace row = 1
    qwerty row = 2
    asd row = 3
    zxc row = 4
    ctrl, alt, spacebar = 4

    Other companied number like this:

    Function row = 4
    number/backspace row = 4
    qwerty row = 3
    asd row = 2
    zxc row = 1
    ctrl, alt, spacebar = 1

    Excellent. Thank you!

    Does anyone know the SP color codes that match closest to the cherry beige and white?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 07:57:02
    Quote from: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:18:47
    Does anyone know the SP color codes that match closest to the cherry beige and white?

    DT Wiki has a SP color wheel picture that you can look up and check out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:31:06
    Where can I buy green switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:31:53
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:31:06
    Where can I buy green switches?

    I can't find any either. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:32:54
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:31:06
    Where can I buy green switches?

    From 7bit on Deskthority here (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html)


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:31:53
    I can't find any either. :(

    You didn't look very hard, then. ;)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:36:39
    ...Quite expensive as 85 USD just for switches... I think I should work on my wallet more and stick with stock keyboards for a while
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:37:39
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:36:39
    ...Quite expensive as 85 USD just for switches... I think I should work on my wallet more and stick with stock keyboards for a while

    Welcome to WalletHack. You are now poor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:46:12
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:32:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:31:53
    I can't find any either. :(

    You didn't look very hard, then. ;)

    I've only been looking for a month or two for a non-7bit source...Not that I'm against 7bit, I just wanted to see if I could get something faster.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:50:51
    where can i find a poker tray these days? ;0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: boost on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:52:18
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:50:51
    where can i find a poker tray these days? ;0

    someone is selling 2 in the classifies
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:52:58
    Why does no-one think anything about my relevant threads :(
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44397.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:55:22
    Quote from: Tym on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:52:58
    Why does no-one think anything about my relevant threads :(
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44397.0

    I think the same thing could be done by using your personal text in your profile. Just change it when you're back.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:56:01
    Quote from: boost on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:52:18
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:50:51
    where can i find a poker tray these days? ;0

    someone is selling 2 in the classifies

    i only see zenuty and who else?


    o.o
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:58:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:55:22
    Quote from: Tym on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:52:58
    Why does no-one think anything about my relevant threads :(
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44397.0

    I think the same thing could be done by using your personal text in your profile. Just change it when you're back.

    Just because I didn't think of this. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:51:41
    how much would it cost to get a custom cap made? (personalized base color, legend color, legend and double-shot)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:53:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 07:57:02
    Quote from: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:18:47
    Does anyone know the SP color codes that match closest to the cherry beige and white?

    DT Wiki has a SP color wheel picture that you can look up and check out.

    SP has a color reference on their website too and I just kinda eyeballed it but you know how it is, unless they're calibrated perfectly and match my monitor profile (fat chance) the colors will be off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:56:05
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:51:41
    how much would it cost to get a custom cap made? (personalized base color, legend color, legend and double-shot)

    An entire run of custom caps or literally just one cap?

    Quote from: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:53:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 07:57:02
    Quote from: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:18:47
    Does anyone know the SP color codes that match closest to the cherry beige and white?

    DT Wiki has a SP color wheel picture that you can look up and check out.

    SP has a color reference on their website too and I just kinda eyeballed it but you know how it is, unless they're calibrated perfectly and match my monitor profile (fat chance) the colors will be off.

    I dont know then. Maybe someone can loan you a color wheel thingy or can chime in with some info?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:58:41
    Quote from: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:53:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 07:57:02
    Quote from: calavera on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:18:47
    Does anyone know the SP color codes that match closest to the cherry beige and white?

    DT Wiki has a SP color wheel picture that you can look up and check out.

    SP has a color reference on their website too and I just kinda eyeballed it but you know how it is, unless they're calibrated perfectly and match my monitor profile (fat chance) the colors will be off.

    You should ask hashbaz. He ran the last moogle GB for beige Cherry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:27:32
    Any sign of that Poker 2, with lit keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:30:18
    Quote from: dnix on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:27:32
    Any sign of that Poker 2, with lit keycaps?

    My spies with binoculars haven't seen anything yet :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:13:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:56:05
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:51:41
    how much would it cost to get a custom cap made? (personalized base color, legend color, legend and double-shot)

    An entire run of custom caps or literally just one cap?

    literally 2 caps. a certain set of GB came with 2 keys that I would like a different base color for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:19:22
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:13:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:56:05
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:51:41
    how much would it cost to get a custom cap made? (personalized base color, legend color, legend and double-shot)

    An entire run of custom caps or literally just one cap?

    literally 2 caps. a certain set of GB came with 2 keys that I would like a different base color for.

    I sincerely doubt any of the large vendors will do a run of two caps for you. The tooling cost would be too high for just 2 double-shot caps. There are people doing things like dye-ing and painting so maybe you can try those outlets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:27:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:19:22
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:13:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:56:05
    Quote from: phx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:51:41
    how much would it cost to get a custom cap made? (personalized base color, legend color, legend and double-shot)

    An entire run of custom caps or literally just one cap?

    literally 2 caps. a certain set of GB came with 2 keys that I would like a different base color for.

    I sincerely doubt any of the large vendors will do a run of two caps for you. The tooling cost would be too high for just 2 double-shot caps. There are people doing things like dye-ing and painting so maybe you can try those outlets.

    SP might be wiling to do it. You would have to sweet talk Melissa, though. And the cost of prototypes used to be $60 per cap. It might have gone up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:29:40
    argh screw that
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:44:04
    How much does a plateless, capless pure/poker with a CNC case weigh?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:51:12
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:44:04
    How much does a plateless, capless pure/poker with a CNC case weigh?

    Just send it to me and I'll weigh it for you. :))

    I think someone needs to get a postage scale. But to answer your question, I've shipped a couple, and with the box and packing materials they each weighed about 1 lb 11 oz. The rate for priority mail is the same for 1 lb 1 oz up to 2 lbs 0 oz. So probably 2 lb rate would cover it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:52:34
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:51:12
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:44:04
    How much does a plateless, capless pure/poker with a CNC case weigh?

    Just send it to me and I'll weigh it for you. :))

    I think someone needs to get a postage scale. But to answer your question, I've shipped a couple, and with the box and packing materials they each weighed about 1 lb 11 oz. The rate for priority mail is the same for 1 lb 1 oz up to 2 lbs 0 oz. So probably 2 lb rate would cover it.

    I bought a cheap scale at Aldi for $7 out to door. Best thing for shipping ever!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 05 June 2013, 22:18:21
    Sweet, thanks guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:33:23
    Can I please have some advice on some methods to stop my stabilized keys from rattling?

    Costar Stabilizers:

    It's a Choc Mini if that matters at all.

    I tried putting heat shrink on the stabilizers which stopped the rattling but the added thickness of the wrap on the wire caused the key to not spring back.

    Can anyone provide me an image of how a costar stabilizer functions, like the Cherry MX Switch GIFs on the DA wiki?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:42:18
    You can lube costar stabilizer, where the wire meets the inserts. It should help. There's a few threads which talk about it.

    I've never seen a costar stabilizer gif either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:45:00
    If someone has a spare spacebar and a camera they could make one. Just cut one end of the spacebar off up to the stabiliser stem.

    I would make one but no mech board atm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:56:40
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:45:00
    .... but no mech board atm.

    What! Do you at least have a keychain to press on so you don't get depressed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:00:22
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:56:40
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:45:00
    .... but no mech board atm.

    What! Do you at least have a keychain to press on so you don't get depressed?
    I've got some dark greys and a few keycaps.. but no keychain! Although I do have a cherry keychain coming in the main from the US.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:03:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:42:18
    You can lube costar stabilizer, where the wire meets the inserts. It should help. There's a few threads which talk about it.

    I've never seen a costar stabilizer gif either.

    Krytox 205 or Victorinox?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:04:40
    Quote from: dadgh on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:03:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:42:18
    You can lube costar stabilizer, where the wire meets the inserts. It should help. There's a few threads which talk about it.

    I've never seen a costar stabilizer gif either.

    Krytox 205 or Victorinox?
    205 would be best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:17:25
    Quote from: dadgh on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:03:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:42:18
    You can lube costar stabilizer, where the wire meets the inserts. It should help. There's a few threads which talk about it.

    I've never seen a costar stabilizer gif either.

    Krytox 205 or Victorinox?

    For stabilizers (only!), white lithium grease is the best. You should be able to find it in most hardware stores.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:44:58
    LUBE HERE, LUBE THERE, LUBE EVERYWHERE!
    (http://i.imgur.com/OwSunkD.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Thu, 06 June 2013, 10:15:42
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:17:25
    Quote from: dadgh on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:03:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:42:18
    You can lube costar stabilizer, where the wire meets the inserts. It should help. There's a few threads which talk about it.

    I've never seen a costar stabilizer gif either.

    Krytox 205 or Victorinox?

    What parts do I lube? Where the wire hits the insert?
    For stabilizers (only!), white lithium grease is the best. You should be able to find it in most hardware stores.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 June 2013, 10:27:47
    Quote from: dadgh on Thu, 06 June 2013, 10:15:42
    What parts do I lube? Where the wire hits the insert?

    Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Thu, 06 June 2013, 11:37:43
    Any chance of this being a mechanical?

    (http://abload.de/img/t2ec16hyme9s5qjf9bbrp8ojym.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:50:19
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Thu, 06 June 2013, 11:37:43
    Any chance of this being a mechanical?

    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/t2ec16hyme9s5qjf9bbrp8ojym.jpg)


    Yes.

     :p

    Okay, I'll stop being a smartass.  It looks very much like a Cherry G80-1500.  If so, these were usually MX Black switches, if it's an older model they could have that "vintage Black" feel that is pretty nice.  I'm typing on one right now. 

    But, it would really help to see the label on the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:54:32
    Well thanks, just saying the font doesn't look like Cherry at all. Also, the transparent cutouts for Num, Capslock and "Rollen" were of another style, rather rectangular. Would be very astonished if this were a Cherry keyboard. The font style rather looks Model-M-ish to me, though the caps obviously don't. I'm really not sure at this one. I', actually hoping for some kind of maybe blue or green ALPS, that'd be nice^^
    Unfortunately, there are no other fotos. I will maybe just buy it (hope to get it for <10€ incl. shipping).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Thu, 06 June 2013, 14:01:01
    (PS: Didn't get it, went for 15€+).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 06 June 2013, 14:11:49
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Thu, 06 June 2013, 14:01:01
    (PS: Didn't get it, went for 15€+).

    I got the G80=1501HAD I'm using right now for €10.00 plus €5.90 shipping.  Cost a bit more to get it to the US, but I think that was a decent price for the quality and MX Blacks.  I think it was a wise move to stick to €10 as your top bid.   :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 06 June 2013, 16:58:00
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:36:39
    ...Quite expensive as 85 USD just for switches... I think I should work on my wallet more and stick with stock keyboards for a while

    you could just buy a QFR w/greens for a little bit more :D
    http://www.cmstore-usa.com/quickfire-rapid-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-green-switch/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 06 June 2013, 18:22:43
    where could I find windowed cherry mx blank keys?

    I saw this in zenuty's photo thread.
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43536.0;attach=22881;image)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 06 June 2013, 18:37:15
    Quote from: domoaligato on Thu, 06 June 2013, 18:22:43
    where could I find windowed cherry mx blank keys?

    I saw this in zenuty's photo thread.
    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43536.0;attach=22881;image)


    Those are probably from a WEY keyboard. 

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WEY-Banking-Double-Shot-Keytop-Cherry-MX-Mechanical-Switch-Keyboard-HK2000B-/321116677022?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D15010%26meid%3D7446503786930103391%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1121%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D161016541694%26&nma=true&si=aq96MfHMvXAPG26kzDt1zuZw5rk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WEY-Banking-Double-Shot-Keytop-Cherry-MX-Mechanical-Switch-Keyboard-HK2000B-/321116677022?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D15010%26meid%3D7446503786930103391%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1121%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D161016541694%26&nma=true&si=aq96MfHMvXAPG26kzDt1zuZw5rk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

    These windowed keycaps are in demand, you can sometimes find sets of just the blanks for sale on Taobao.  Pricey, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 06 June 2013, 20:28:29
    What was the name of the old port for PC's that used the flip up wire retainer clips?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 06 June 2013, 21:29:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 06 June 2013, 20:28:29
    What was the name of the old port for PC's that used the flip up wire retainer clips?

    parallel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 07 June 2013, 04:38:26
    That's the one.  More specifically the one I want uses the centronics 36 connector with bail latch.  Just needed that seed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lbeuol on Fri, 07 June 2013, 12:01:05
    Quote from: domoaligato on Thu, 06 June 2013, 18:22:43
    where could I find windowed cherry mx blank keys?

    I saw this in zenuty's photo thread.
    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43536.0;attach=22881;image)


    You can buy those from Taobao (pretty sure that's is where zenuty got his)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:03:10
    Quote from: Greystoke on Thu, 06 June 2013, 18:37:15
    Quote from: domoaligato on Thu, 06 June 2013, 18:22:43
    where could I find windowed cherry mx blank keys?

    I saw this in zenuty's photo thread.
    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43536.0;attach=22881;image)


    Those are probably from a WEY keyboard. 

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WEY-Banking-Double-Shot-Keytop-Cherry-MX-Mechanical-Switch-Keyboard-HK2000B-/321116677022?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D15010%26meid%3D7446503786930103391%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1121%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D161016541694%26&nma=true&si=aq96MfHMvXAPG26kzDt1zuZw5rk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WEY-Banking-Double-Shot-Keytop-Cherry-MX-Mechanical-Switch-Keyboard-HK2000B-/321116677022?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D15010%26meid%3D7446503786930103391%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1121%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D161016541694%26&nma=true&si=aq96MfHMvXAPG26kzDt1zuZw5rk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

    These windowed keycaps are in demand, you can sometimes find sets of just the blanks for sale on Taobao.  Pricey, though.

    Wow, despite extra keycaps and everything, that keybord itself is a dream... Just to be clear, he sells the whole thing there? Not just caps? And what would you need to get it connected to a Win8 PC, he's speaking of a controller box there...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:06:52
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:03:10
    Wow, despite extra keycaps and everything, that keybord itself is a dream... Just to be clear, he sells the whole thing there? Not just caps? And what would you need to get it connected to a Win8 PC, he's speaking of a controller box there...

    You'd probably need to teensy it. And yes, it's the whole board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:33:22
    (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/calaveratf/keyboards/DSCF2507_zpsd2880fee.jpg~original)

    Don't understand why SP row 4 doesn't match profile with the cherry SHIFT key. wtf? Can anyone explain?
    Cherry key caps are from a 1800 board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:35:03
    I thought that the DCS profile was *CLOSE* to the Cherry profile but not exact.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jagriff on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:45:21
    What's the best way to remove the tops of PCB (or mo-friendly plate) mounted switches without using Beast's tool?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:45:59
    Quote from: Jagriff on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:45:21
    What's the best way to remove the tops of PCB (or mo-friendly plate) mounted switches without using Beast's tool?
    Very small flathead screwdriver.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:48:41
    Quote from: Jagriff on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:45:21
    What's the best way to remove the tops of PCB (or mo-friendly plate) mounted switches without using Beast's tool?

    Please read the OP, I've provided some alternatives there :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jagriff on Fri, 07 June 2013, 21:04:00
    Thanks! That binder clip looks very interesting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 June 2013, 21:34:18
    Binder method never worked for me. I think I may have bought binders that were too thick since they literally wouldn't fit in the holes. Even tried hammering them but still wouldn't work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 07 June 2013, 22:29:05
    a small file fixes that problem.  The thread that I saw with them and how he made them said that he had to file down the ends to fit in the holes.  Gotta remember it is a round peg in a square hole.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 07 June 2013, 22:34:40
    page 80 though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 07 June 2013, 22:35:19
    So... I didn't see this in the OP, but can I sell stuff here? :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raKeto on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:26:54
    Why are Filco Keyboards known to be the Best? Most people say the processing is so good. What makes them so Special?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:28:42
    Quote from: raKeto on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:26:54
    Why are Filco Keyboards known to be the Best? Most people say the processing is so good. What makes them so Special?



    They are pretty good, but not nearly as good as Black Widow Ultimates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:30:02
    Quote from: raKeto on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:26:54
    Why are Filco Keyboards known to be the Best? Most people say the processing is so good. What makes them so Special?

    They're not the best, it's just personal opinion. If they were clearly superior, everyone would have that over everything else. The PCB is apparently very easy to mod. And you have one so you must like it already.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:36:36
    Quote from: Halverson on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:28:42
    Quote from: raKeto on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:26:54
    Why are Filco Keyboards known to be the Best? Most people say the processing is so good. What makes them so Special?



    They are pretty good, but not nearly as good as Black Widow Ultimates.

    DAE game?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raKeto on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:38:07
    Quote from: Halverson on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:28:42
    Quote from: raKeto on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:26:54
    Why are Filco Keyboards known to be the Best? Most people say the processing is so good. What makes them so Special?



    They are pretty good, but not nearly as good as Black Widow Ultimates.

    If there would be a qotw topic i would defintly post it there :p As you noticed i have a Blackwidow as well, but i know why these Keyboard is bad atleast... Software is a piece of Crap.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:30:02
    Quote from: raKeto on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:26:54
    Why are Filco Keyboards known to be the Best? Most people say the processing is so good. What makes them so Special?

    They're not the best, it's just personal opinion. If they were clearly superior, everyone would have that over everything else. The PCB is apparently very easy to mod. And you have one so you must like it already.

    I love it. Just need a justification for my GF on spending so much money on a mechanical keyboard. What is a PCB btw?  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:52:49
    Quote from: raKeto on Sat, 08 June 2013, 02:38:07
    What is a PCB btw?

    Check this out (http://deskthority.net/wiki/PCB) for more info on PCBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lupizza on Sat, 08 June 2013, 07:01:27
    Uh, how do you make a keyboard signature picture? Like the one raKeto has? ;D And will I always have to do the captcha and antispam thingy when posting or will that disappear after a certain amount of posts?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 08 June 2013, 08:19:19
    Filco was kind of special if you go back in time some years. Back then they were a cut above most choices in build quality. Now not so much. There are many other choice that is just as good really. Filco is mostly just riding on the reputation these days in my opinion.

    Captchas go away after I think post 10.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 08 June 2013, 09:25:19
    Quote from: Lupizza on Sat, 08 June 2013, 07:01:27
    How do you make a keyboard signature picture? Like the one raKeto has?

    You can find keyboard pixel art in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sat, 08 June 2013, 14:11:01
    Anyone know where I can find the Poker II other than MechanicalKeyboards.com?? (Its sold out there)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lupizza on Sat, 08 June 2013, 14:12:56
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 08 June 2013, 08:19:19
    Captchas go away after I think post 10.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 08 June 2013, 09:25:19
    Quote from: Lupizza on Sat, 08 June 2013, 07:01:27
    How do you make a keyboard signature picture? Like the one raKeto has?

    You can find keyboard pixel art in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.0).

    Thanks alot! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Sat, 08 June 2013, 14:50:54
    Quote from: Rule16 on Sat, 08 June 2013, 14:11:01
    Anyone know where I can find the Poker II other than MechanicalKeyboards.com?? (Its sold out there)
    Qtan's vendio store.
    http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/product/__template=iphone/lid=35050923
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 08 June 2013, 15:04:15
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Sat, 08 June 2013, 14:50:54
    Quote from: Rule16 on Sat, 08 June 2013, 14:11:01
    Anyone know where I can find the Poker II other than MechanicalKeyboards.com?? (Its sold out there)
    Qtan's vendio store.
    http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/product/__template=iphone/lid=35050923

    It will also be sold through TechKeys.us sometime soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sat, 08 June 2013, 16:10:49
    Sweet, thanks guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Sat, 08 June 2013, 16:17:15
    Quote from: okooko on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:38:58
    Q.
    What do you usually do when you buy another KB knowing your significant other half will be pissed beyond godlike?

    (I just get prepared to spend double, so $xxx.xx for the KB, and $xxx.xx for the hu$h) lol

    This is from page 1.. but I love this question hahaha. I face silent judgment whenever I get a new package.. but its just.. so addicting.. dem endorphins.
    My SO doesn't need a keyboard.. but one day I'm gonna buy her one, and customise it for her. She won't want it.. but she'll hopefully use it and love it and will join me on this keyboard adventure. Probably not though. Lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Sat, 08 June 2013, 17:45:17
    Funny, my girlfriend really asked me for one yesterday... She knows I'm addicted to collecting KBs and now I have to find pink doubleshots somewhere^^ She's the one eh :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UniClown on Sat, 08 June 2013, 21:31:00
    How in the hell did someone come up with the lube combination of GPL103 + GPL205? I mean, who decided that using lube commonly used for Liquid Oxygen pumps would be so amazing in a keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:10:24
    Can we please put a proper definition for 'tenkeyless' on the OP? Recently a lot of newcomers have been using this to cover the 60% category. It's really happening wayyy too much than it should lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:12:58
    Quote from: UniClown on Sat, 08 June 2013, 21:31:00
    How in the hell did someone come up with the lube combination of GPL103 + GPL205? I mean, who decided that using lube commonly used for Liquid Oxygen pumps would be so amazing in a keyboard?

    Trial and error? And testing a lot of types of lubes?

    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:10:24
    Can we please put a proper definition for 'tenkeyless' on the OP? Recently a lot of newcomers have been using this to cover the 60% category. It's really happening wayyy too much than it should lol.

    I thought it was pretty self explanatory as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:20:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:12:58
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:10:24
    Can we please put a proper definition for 'tenkeyless' on the OP? Recently a lot of newcomers have been using this to cover the 60% category. It's really happening wayyy too much than it should lol.
    I thought it was pretty self explanatory as well.

    WFD has an excellent summary here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44525.msg922756#msg922756
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:40:37
    FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:42:31
    The thread was locked but I didn't lock it. There was no unlock button before but it reappeared. I've unlocked the thread. Sorry for the scare everyone. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lupizza on Sun, 09 June 2013, 08:33:30
    Quote from: SmallFry on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:40:37
    FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

    what is this i dont even... 7
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 June 2013, 16:09:44
    Yo,   the ergodox fasteners, they are M2.5 - 0.5 x 22 ???

    my eyes no good
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:14:48
    Say you want something between MX Red and MX Black. Good way to approach this?

    What springs to use, where to get them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:17:22
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:14:48
    Say you want something between MX Red and MX Black. Good way to approach this?

    What springs to use, where to get them?

    You'll more than likely have to find Korean springs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:17:59
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:14:48
    Say you want something between MX Red and MX Black. Good way to approach this?

    What springs to use, where to get them?

    62g and 65g Korean springs are inbetween MX Reds and Black. You can get them in various groupbuys (Calavera just held one) and Sherry has some for sale in his classifieds board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:18:09
    Why are the Pacers getting raped hardcore in game 2?  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:27:51
    Quote from: calavera on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:18:09
    Why are the Pacers getting raped hardcore in game 2?  :))

    Because they let me down and broke my heart </3.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:28:42
    No, because basketball sucks. This is 'murica. Football.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:28:58
    game 3 and 4 will be very interesting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:29:11
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:28:42
    No, because basketball sucks. This is 'murica. Football.

    GET. OUT. :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:30:56
    Do keyboards have genders?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:33:13
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:30:56
    Do keyboards have genders?

    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:34:06
    How can I tell if mine is a girl or a boy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:34:20
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:30:56
    Do keyboards have genders?

    Why is Innovation so bogus? heeeeheheehehehe
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:34:38
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:34:06
    How can I tell if mine is a girl or a boy?

    Place your fingers in its cloaca.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:44:18
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:34:06
    How can I tell if mine is a girl or a boy?

    Duh - does it have removable cable or not?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:51:23
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:44:18
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:34:06
    How can I tell if mine is a girl or a boy?

    Duh - does it have removable cable or not?

    That belongs in the OP!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 09 June 2013, 22:12:54
    would a left half ergo dox be a viable alternative/replacement for my Razer Orbweaver?  I have already gotten rid of the blues and i don't like them for gaming have a combo of reds and clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: theeattre on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:26:34
    so, the red esc, red arrows, red wasd...are these rooted in a color coded system that's historical in its utilitarianism? is it just fashionable for gamers or kb mods? i feel i've seen mention of having proper color coding when using multiple colors (letters, numbers, punctuation...) in keycap sets but i can't seem to find the definitive info i'm looking for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:30:14
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:44:18
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:34:06
    How can I tell if mine is a girl or a boy?

    Duh - does it have removable cable or not?
    Does that make my computer the boy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:30:43
    Quote from: The_Beast on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:17:22
    You'll more than likely have to find Korean springs

    That's what I was getting at.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:17:59
    62g and 65g Korean springs are inbetween MX Reds and Black. You can get them in various groupbuys (Calavera just held one) and Sherry has some for sale in his classifieds board.

    Darn. That's probably the thread I was looking at, the other day.
    Also, it appears sherryton only sells them bundled with switches and stickers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raKeto on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:47:40
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:06:15
    Ducky. Qpad = iOne = bad.

    What does iOne mean? My Friend just ordered a Qpad MK-80. Is it like really bad like BWU?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:51:12
    Quote from: raKeto on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:47:40
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:06:15
    Ducky. Qpad = iOne = bad.

    What does iOne mean? My Friend just ordered a Qpad MK-80. Is it like really bad like BWU?
    Qpad keyboards are just rebranded iOne keyboards. iOne makes pretty bad keyboards. It's better than a BW since it doesn't have the horrible gloss finish but as far as build quality goes they're about the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:53:08
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:51:12
    Quote from: raKeto on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:47:40
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:06:15
    Ducky. Qpad = iOne = bad.

    What does iOne mean? My Friend just ordered a Qpad MK-80. Is it like really bad like BWU?
    Qpad keyboards are just rebranded iOne keyboards. iOne makes pretty bad keyboards. It's better than a BW since it doesn't have the horrible gloss finish but as far as build quality goes they're about the same.

    iOne boards also have horrible soldering jobs done...a lot of companies just rebrand iOne boards...

    hey pho! how's that history homework? :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:56:14
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:53:08

    iOne boards also have horrible soldering jobs done...a lot of companies just rebrand iOne boards...

    hey pho! how's that history homework? :p
    It's done  :)). Not really much point sleeping for 2 hours... Might as well pull an all nighter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:57:05
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:56:14
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:53:08

    iOne boards also have horrible soldering jobs done...a lot of companies just rebrand iOne boards...

    hey pho! how's that history homework? :p
    It's done  :)). Not really much point sleeping for 2 hours... Might as well pull an all nighter.

    standard pho
    good work
    gonna be ready for that exam though? ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:59:17
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:57:05
    standard pho
    good work
    gonna be ready for that exam though? ;D
    Ehh it's just cold war. Gonna ham it brah ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:03:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:59:17
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:57:05
    standard pho
    good work
    gonna be ready for that exam though? ;D
    Ehh it's just cold war. Gonna ham it brah ;D

    'Go ham? what. does. that mean?'

    you have to go hard hahah
    glgl
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moomoo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:24:12
    I have this really odd idea. At uni they have this full engineering lab with plates of aluminium, steel and everything really. I've got a couple of friends who have access to it. What would happen to the value of "The Cheat" if I were to make it 84 key layout like a winkeyless? Has anyone every thought of doing such a thing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:26:16
    Quote from: Moomoo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:24:12
    I have this really odd idea. At uni they have this full engineering lab with plates of aluminium, steel and everything really. I've got a couple of friends who have access to it. What would happen to the value of "The Cheat" if I were to make it 84 key layout like a winkeyless? Has anyone every thought of doing such a thing?
    It would be a pain in the ass to do. You'd need to get the measurements all perfect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moomoo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:28:34
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:26:16
    Quote from: Moomoo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:24:12
    I have this really odd idea. At uni they have this full engineering lab with plates of aluminium, steel and everything really. I've got a couple of friends who have access to it. What would happen to the value of "The Cheat" if I were to make it 84 key layout like a winkeyless? Has anyone every thought of doing such a thing?
    It would be a pain in the ass to do. You'd need to get the measurements all perfect.


    Hypothetically, what if I did get them perfect?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:30:33
    Quote from: Moomoo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:28:34
    Hypothetically, what if I did get them perfect?
    You'd have a unique cheat. The value would probably be higher but would people really pay that much more considering there are loads of winkeyless boards anyway?

    It would be a challenge. Get a measurement or radius wrong and it won't fit and/or will look weird. I really wouldn't recommend it.

    Also you would need to have it all re-anodised since the colours wouldn't match.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Mon, 10 June 2013, 04:24:18
    Found a Cherry G80-3000HED, are that clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 06:27:57
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:30:43
    Darn. That's probably the thread I was looking at, the other day.
    Also, it appears sherryton only sells them bundled with switches and stickers.

    Sherryton also runs a site called Originativeco.com. Hence the name of his vendor forum. Try going there for springs.

    Quote from: Moomoo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:24:12
    I have this really odd idea. At uni they have this full engineering lab with plates of aluminium, steel and everything really. I've got a couple of friends who have access to it. What would happen to the value of "The Cheat" if I were to make it 84 key layout like a winkeyless? Has anyone every thought of doing such a thing?

    I thought the Cheat already had a WinKeyLess layout. And if you're just changing the plate, I'm pretty sure it won't hurt the resale of the Cheat.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 06:38:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 06:27:57
    Quote from: Moomoo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:24:12
    I have this really odd idea. At uni they have this full engineering lab with plates of aluminium, steel and everything really. I've got a couple of friends who have access to it. What would happen to the value of "The Cheat" if I were to make it 84 key layout like a winkeyless? Has anyone every thought of doing such a thing?

    I thought the Cheat already had a WinKeyLess layout. And if you're just changing the plate, I'm pretty sure it won't hurt the resale of the Cheat.
    The Cheat has an 86 key layout. 1.5 mods with windows keys. He means making a top plate with winkey blockers so it's 84 key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 06:52:49
    Fix your quote photekq ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stonejoint on Mon, 10 June 2013, 07:45:09
    Hello

    Spilled some tea into my keyboard gfr blacks at work, It was working well I removed keycaps and cleaned it but after weekend, I just figured 3 of my switches are now stiffer, tea had sugar in it so I think frozen sugar made them stiffer, what solution do you suggest ? without removing switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 07:53:10
    Quote from: stonejoint on Mon, 10 June 2013, 07:45:09
    Hello

    Spilled some tea into my keyboard gfr blacks at work, It was working well I removed keycaps and cleaned it but after weekend, I just figured 3 of my switches are now stiffer, tea had sugar in it so I think frozen sugar made them stiffer, what solution do you suggest ? without removing switches.

    Unfortunately you'll probably have to open the board and maybe even the switch up to clean the residue. There's just no other way to get all of it out. I would use rubbing alcohol to clean the mess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Turbo Slaab on Mon, 10 June 2013, 07:55:22
    You could call them ghetto panda browns.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 08:15:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 06:52:49
    Fix your quote photekq ^-^
    That's what happens when you browse GH 30 seconds before an exam :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 08:21:22
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 08:15:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 06:52:49
    Fix your quote photekq ^-^
    That's what happens when you browse GH 30 seconds before an exam :))

    Hehehe :P. Hope your exam went well :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stonejoint on Mon, 10 June 2013, 08:30:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 07:53:10
    Quote from: stonejoint on Mon, 10 June 2013, 07:45:09
    Hello

    Spilled some tea into my keyboard gfr blacks at work, It was working well I removed keycaps and cleaned it but after weekend, I just figured 3 of my switches are now stiffer, tea had sugar in it so I think frozen sugar made them stiffer, what solution do you suggest ? without removing switches.

    Unfortunately you'll probably have to open the board and maybe even the switch up to clean the residue. There's just no other way to get all of it out. I would use rubbing alcohol to clean the mess.


    5 switches malfunction, they are stiffer or not sliding well, I enject some alcohol 80 deg. they are much better now but still not good as  other switches.

    I'll put more alcohol after work today, and we'll see tomorrow, I was going to buy brown switches so I think I have to buy it now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 08:34:31
    Quote from: stonejoint on Mon, 10 June 2013, 08:30:47
    5 switches malfunction, they are stiffer or not sliding well, I enject some alcohol 80 deg. they are much better now but still not good as  other switches.

    I'll put more alcohol after work today, and we'll see tomorrow, I was going to buy brown switches so I think I have to buy it now.

    Like I said, just flooding the board/switch with alcohol might not help. You might have to open it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 10 June 2013, 08:38:36
    In my experience, there is no bringing back a switch that has gone bad.  The contact points are fragile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:41:57
    I've always wondered about this picture on EK. What is that full-size keyboard and why does it look like that?
    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/accessback.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:42:55
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:41:57
    I've always wondered about this picture on EK. What is that full-size keyboard and why does it look like that?
    Show Image
    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/accessback.png)


    They both look like Filcos to me. One is a TKL, the other appears to be a white one with blank black keycaps inside of a box.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:43:54
    The board on the left has a cover/roof on it as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:44:06
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:41:57
    I've always wondered about this picture on EK. What is that full-size keyboard and why does it look like that?
    Show Image
    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/accessback.png)


    That is a Filco Majestouch (104), and it looks like it's in its box, but the top of the box was cut off. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:46:47
    Lol why do they show it with the box on the sides? Do people actually use it like that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:49:27
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:46:47
    Lol why do they show it with the box on the sides? Do people actually use it like that?

    I think that would be one of those 'For Display' things, I doubt anyone uses their keyboard in a box....but around here you never know...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:54:04
    Ah okay. Well this is the picture for their "keyboard accessories" link so I thought may have been some kind of add-on. Thanks everyone!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: theeattre on Mon, 10 June 2013, 11:51:50
    Quote from: theeattre on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:26:34
    so, the red esc, red arrows, red wasd...are these rooted in a color coded system that's historical in its utilitarianism? is it just fashionable for gamers or kb mods? i feel i've seen mention of having proper color coding when using multiple colors (letters, numbers, punctuation...) in keycap sets but i can't seem to find the definitive info i'm looking for.

    any help?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 11:56:06
    Quote from: theeattre on Mon, 10 June 2013, 11:51:50
    Quote from: theeattre on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:26:34
    so, the red esc, red arrows, red wasd...are these rooted in a color coded system that's historical in its utilitarianism? is it just fashionable for gamers or kb mods? i feel i've seen mention of having proper color coding when using multiple colors (letters, numbers, punctuation...) in keycap sets but i can't seem to find the definitive info i'm looking for.

    any help?

    Lol, have a little patience! It hasn't even been a day since you've asked your question. The RGB mods and Red escapes stem from an era when keyboards were used in industries such as airlines. When the boards were introduced with those keys, they used the colors to train people. Since then, WASD and Arrows have taken on this color trend because it looks cool. Does this satisfactorily answer your question?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 10 June 2013, 13:04:35
    what time does my mail truck come by?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 13:22:13
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 10 June 2013, 13:04:35
    what time does my mail truck come by?

    It's being re-routed to Cincinnati Ohio and your packages are being dropped off at my apartment :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 10 June 2013, 13:45:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 June 2013, 13:22:13
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 10 June 2013, 13:04:35
    what time does my mail truck come by?

    It's being re-routed to Cincinnati Ohio and your packages are being dropped off at my apartment :P

    with my recent bad luck with the mail, i would kinda expect that haha

    and i feel your pain with the switch tour...why don't people just read the OP?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Mon, 10 June 2013, 15:16:33
    Anyone have a link showing how to make the Filco cable detachable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:07:22
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:41:57
    I've always wondered about this picture on EK. What is that full-size keyboard and why does it look like that?
    Show Image
    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/accessback.png)

    Board on left has a cover. The board on the right, however, isn't a board at all! It's the filco keycap holder that comes with their keycap sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:25:10
    Does anyone else get stuck keys? I'm using an HPE 104 (costar stabilizers I believe) and I just got round 1 PBT set from moose and I have a problem where the keys with stabilizers get stuck if I depress them too hard. Example: http://imgur.com/a/7ERLo
    Is this normal? Did I put them on wrong?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:37:00
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:41:57
    I've always wondered about this picture on EK. What is that full-size keyboard and why does it look like that?
    Show Image
    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/accessback.png)


    What is the pad thing with buttons? It's not even on EK (I don't think).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:37:42
    Quote from: dnix on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:37:00
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:41:57
    I've always wondered about this picture on EK. What is that full-size keyboard and why does it look like that?
    Show Image
    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/accessback.png)


    What is the pad thing with buttons? It's not even on EK (I don't think).
    Filco Neo trackpad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:39:26
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:07:22
    The board on the right, however, isn't a board at all! It's the filco keycap holder that comes with their keycap sets.

    LOL dude that makes sense. I think this is a record for most wrong answers to a simple question? Hahaha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:40:43
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:39:26
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:07:22
    The board on the right, however, isn't a board at all! It's the filco keycap holder that comes with their keycap sets.

    LOL dude that makes sense. I think this is a record for most wrong answers to a simple question? Hahaha.
    It's a confusing picture. At first I thought it was a filco in a box with a hole in it just like everyone else :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:41:13
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:37:42
    Filco Neo trackpad.

    Were they not very popular? I don't see them for sale anywhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:41:48
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:40:43
    It's a confusing picture. At first I thought it was a filco in a box with a hole in it just like everyone else :p
    Haha, yeah after close inspection you can kind of tell that there's no way a Filco would fit in a box and have those dimensions [edge is too close to the keycaps]

    Found one here:

    (http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1747/filcomajestouchnonprint.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 10 June 2013, 19:17:04
    I plan on cutting my fullsized model M down to a 60%. I'm assuming since I have to cut the metal plate, I'll have to remove all the plastic revits, cut the plate, fold the membrane and then bolt mod it. Is this correct?

    What type of fasteners are used for a bolt mod?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Mon, 10 June 2013, 19:32:23
    The Trope switches have tactile point very high like membrane keyboard right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 10 June 2013, 20:16:31
    It's weird to describe but yeah, it's there. The keystrokes register near the top also.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 10 June 2013, 21:19:00
    Would I be safe supporting my plate mounted phantom from the edges of the plate alone or should it really be supported at the 2 points in the middle of the plate as well?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 21:20:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 10 June 2013, 21:19:00
    Would I be safe supporting my plate mounted phantom from the edges of the plate alone or should it really be supported at the 2 points in the middle of the plate as well?
    Depends on how you will be supporting it from the edges. If all edges are securely resting on something and it is fixed in place then you don't need the middle points.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 June 2013, 22:41:01
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 21:20:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 10 June 2013, 21:19:00
    Would I be safe supporting my plate mounted phantom from the edges of the plate alone or should it really be supported at the 2 points in the middle of the plate as well?
    Depends on how you will be supporting it from the edges. If all edges are securely resting on something and it is fixed in place then you don't need the middle points.

    it depends on if the edges are merely propped up vs Clamped.   if it's merely propped up at the edges, supports in the middle would be good, bridges bend in the middle, thats why they put posts underneath.

    If it's CLAMPED on the sides, then you're in the clear because that tension should be enough to prevent flexing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 10 June 2013, 23:46:13
    Awesome thanks for the info guys.  It was going to be clamped/sandwiched between the frame and the top cover.  Which is planned to be steel. 

    On an unrelated topic is it wrong that when my wife asked me what I wanted for Fathers Day, I told her I just wanted the OK to buy the material for my keyboard case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 00:47:44
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Mon, 10 June 2013, 15:16:33
    Anyone have a link showing how to make the Filco cable detachable?

    Try this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35178.0).

    Quote from: The_Beast on Mon, 10 June 2013, 19:17:04
    I plan on cutting my fullsized model M down to a 60%. I'm assuming since I have to cut the metal plate, I'll have to remove all the plastic revits, cut the plate, fold the membrane and then bolt mod it. Is this correct?

    What type of fasteners are used for a bolt mod?

    A list of parts and a guide on how to do a bolt mod can be found here (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Modifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod).

    Quote from: kenmai9 on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:25:10
    Does anyone else get stuck keys? I'm using an HPE 104 (costar stabilizers I believe) and I just got round 1 PBT set from moose and I have a problem where the keys with stabilizers get stuck if I depress them too hard. Example: http://imgur.com/a/7ERLo
    Is this normal? Did I put them on wrong?

    Thanks!

    Your pictures look ok. I have no idea what you did wrong. Did you slide the wire into the insert holes?

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 10 June 2013, 23:46:13
    On an unrelated topic is it wrong that when my wife asked me what I wanted for Fathers Day, I told her I just wanted the OK to buy the material for my keyboard case?

    Nope, seems legit to me.

    Quote from: linziyi on Mon, 10 June 2013, 19:32:23
    The Trope switches have tactile point very high like membrane keyboard right?

    No, to me, the actuation point felt like it was in the middle. Very much where the Cherry actuation point is.

    Quote from: dnix on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:41:13
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 June 2013, 18:37:42
    Filco Neo trackpad.

    Were they not very popular? I don't see them for sale anywhere.

    I don't know much about them. I've never heard of it until now myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:40:30
    Can I add LEDs to a KBT Pure that came without LEDs? Also would I have to do it to all keys or can I do it just for the ones I like?

    I have added O-rings on my keyboard. Can I dampen the sound even more? Should I try putting something between the stand-offs of the case and the PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:48:06
    It's a fairly common problem with costar stabilizer and Cherry profile keycaps combination. Cherry keycap are too shallow inside and thick walled, there is not enough room for the standard size stabilizer wire meant for oem profile keycap to collapse inside so it jams right around the actuation point.

    Yes Pure non led use the same PCB and firmware as the led version. It has been confirmed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:53:49
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:40:30
    1) Can I add LEDs to a KBT Pure that came without LEDs?
    2) Also would I have to do it to all keys or can I do it just for the ones I like?
    3) I have added O-rings on my keyboard. Can I dampen the sound even more?
    4) Should I try putting something between the stand-offs of the case and the PCB?

    1) According to Ivan you can
    2) If you can put LEDs into the board, I assume that you can put the LEDs where you please.
    3) You could swap the switches out to something like a Red, Black, Brown, or White. Those switches are relatively quiet in my opinion. You can try putting a big mousepad or towel underneath the board. I heard that helps a little as well
    4) That won't really make your board quieter. I just did this mod to my FC700R. It's still loud.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:03:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:53:49
    1) According to Ivan you can
    2) If you can put LEDs into the board, I assume that you can put the LEDs where you please.
    Thanks! Can you link me to that post? I couldn't really find anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:06:23
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:03:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:53:49
    1) According to Ivan you can
    2) If you can put LEDs into the board, I assume that you can put the LEDs where you please.
    Thanks! Can you link me to that post? I couldn't really find anything.

    The post where Ivan said you can? It's above mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:12:43
    Did anyone run into this problem in the past...  My note to Qtang follows:

    Qtang,

    A while ago, I bought a Vortex KBTalking Pure from you.  It came with an extra set of white print on gray PBT keycaps.  Until now, I have bee using the ABS keycaps that came installed on the keyboard. Now, I am changing them, and I have found that the PBT set has 2 "L" keycaps, and no "E".  Can you please obtain a white print on gray Vortex PBT "E" keycap, and send it to me (as soon as possible).

    Thanks,
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:15:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:06:23
    The post where Ivan said you can? It's above mine.
    I should get some coffee. Thanks to Ivan as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:28:41
    Quote from: therecorder on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:12:43
    Did anyone run into this problem in the past...  My note to Qtang follows:

    Qtang,

    A while ago, I bought a Vortex KBTalking Pure from you.  It came with an extra set of white print on gray PBT keycaps.  Until now, I have bee using the ABS keycaps that came installed on the keyboard. Now, I am changing them, and I have found that the PBT set has 2 "L" keycaps, and no "E".  Can you please obtain a white print on gray Vortex PBT "E" keycap, and send it to me (as soon as possible).

    Thanks,

    I've never dealt with qtan but it seems like there's an easy fix for a simple misunderstanding. He just swapped caps by accident. Happens a lot in GBs and I'm not surprised it happened with a vendor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:41:19
    Double post but it's only because I want to ask a question myself. So over in the Best Buckling Spring Keyboard thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44582.msg925529#msg925529), I was shown some 60% Buckling Spring mods that Hasu and ClickClack have done. In Hasu's Happy Buckling Keyboard (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29483.0) thread, he shows that he's using copper tape to fix the traces.

    My question is, instead of copper tape, can I use one of those Bare Conductive pens (http://www.bareconductive.com/) instead of the tape to fix traces?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: damorgue on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:45:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 09:41:19
    Double post but it's only because I want to ask a question myself. So over in the Best Buckling Spring Keyboard thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44582.msg925529#msg925529), I was shown some 60% Buckling Spring mods that Hasu and ClickClack have done. In Hasu's Happy Buckling Keyboard (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29483.0) thread, he shows that he's using copper tape to fix the traces.

    My question is, instead of copper tape, can I use one of those Bare Conductive pens (http://www.bareconductive.com/) instead of the tape to fix traces?

    I would guess no. mkawa probably has a good idea has he has been researching the films and traces used in BS boards a little for the SSK revival I believe.

    I don't think the conductive ink pens crate a very flexible trace. This might work well for PCBs and such, but a thin flexible film will bend a lot more and I would guess that there is a high risk of breaking the circuit. Just my guess though

    Edit: I'll happily be proven wrong by someone who knows that stuff because I like the idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lupizza on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:55:53
    Is it possible to make Cherry white sound more? Like the Cherry Green for example? It's supposed to be clicky but to me it only sounds like a non-clicky tactile switch. :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:58:26
    Quote from: Lupizza on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:55:53
    Is it possible to make Cherry white sound more? Like the Cherry Green for example? It's supposed to be clicky but to me it only sounds like a non-clicky tactile switch. :/

    If you want louder switches, why not just get a Green or a Blue switch? Whites are just quieter. And you might be the first person to ask for a louder keyboard lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lupizza on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:59:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:58:26
    Quote from: Lupizza on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:55:53
    Is it possible to make Cherry white sound more? Like the Cherry Green for example? It's supposed to be clicky but to me it only sounds like a non-clicky tactile switch. :/

    If you want louder switches, why not just get a Green or a Blue switch? Whites are just quieter. And you might be the first person to ask for a louder keyboard lol
    Yeah I know the greens and blues are louder but now I've already bought one with white switches and since green switches are hard to find here and blue switches are far too light for me I'm looking for a way to make the ones I have louder. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 16:02:05
    Quote from: Lupizza on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:59:59
    Yeah I know the greens and blues are louder but now I've already bought one with white switches and since green switches are hard to find here and blue switches are far too light for me I'm looking for a way to make the ones I have louder. :P

    Get 62g or lighter Korean springs. It seems like the lighter springs takes away the muffled click and just makes the Whites feel like Greens and Blues. And it makes them louder. But taking away the muffled click negates the whole point of having Whites in my opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lupizza on Tue, 11 June 2013, 16:34:55
    [quothavee author=CPTBadAss link=topic=40501.msg925931#msg925931 date=1370984525]
    Quote from: Lupizza on Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:59:59
    Yeah I know the greens and blues are louder but now I've already bought one with white switches and since green switches are hard to find here and blue switches are far too light for me I'm looking for a way to make the ones I have louder. :P

    Get 62g or lighter Korean springs. It seems like the lighter springs takes away the muffled click and just makes the Whites feel like Greens and Blues. And it makes them louder. But taking away the muffled click negates the whole point of having Whites in my opinion.
    [/quote]

    I'll have to think this through, perhaps I'm just used to louder switches. Thanks for the advice though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:44:01
    Springs don't matter, they will stay quiet if you don't remove the lubrication from the stems. I suspect this is a byproduct of people handling the internals during switch modding which is why they end up louder than before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:59:52
    I bought a aluminum spacebar from feng.
    is there a way to reduce the sound it makes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:01:36
    Quote from: domoaligato on Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:59:52
    I bought a aluminum spacebar from feng.
    is there a way to reduce the sound it makes?

    Take it off? lol j/k... I'm not sure, but I had one for a few days and disliked it for the same reason.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:05:12
    Quote from: domoaligato on Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:59:52
    I bought a aluminum spacebar from feng.
    is there a way to reduce the sound it makes?

    Maybe use O-Rings?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:29:34
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:05:12
    Quote from: domoaligato on Tue, 11 June 2013, 18:59:52
    I bought a aluminum spacebar from feng.
    is there a way to reduce the sound it makes?

    Maybe use O-Rings?

    just tried that. I have even doubled them. no change.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Tue, 11 June 2013, 21:47:37
    I placed an order through the DA cherry switch bot (7bit) for 90 PCB Mounted MX Clears which were in stock and marked as shipped. It's been 2.5 weeks. At what point do I get concerned that my package may not arrive? I had literally no DA presence (new account - 0 posts) when I placed the order.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 June 2013, 21:55:34
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 11 June 2013, 21:47:37
    I placed an order through the DA cherry switch bot (7bit) for 90 PCB Mounted MX Clears which were in stock and marked as shipped. It's been 2.5 weeks. At what point do I get concerned that my package may not arrive? I had literally no DA presence (new account - 0 posts) when I placed the order.

    I would send 7bit a PM or post in the order thread at DT
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:07:33
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 11 June 2013, 21:47:37
    I placed an order through the DA cherry switch bot (7bit) for 90 PCB Mounted MX Clears which were in stock and marked as shipped. It's been 2.5 weeks. At what point do I get concerned that my package may not arrive? I had literally no DA presence (new account - 0 posts) when I placed the order.

    I've waited up to two months before finding out what happened to my packages. Send him a PM and be patient.

    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:44:01
    Springs don't matter, they will stay quiet if you don't remove the lubrication from the stems. I suspect this is a byproduct of people handling the internals during switch modding which is why they end up louder than before.

    Are you sure? I swapped in springs the other day and they were louder. And that's good to know that Whites are lubed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dadgh on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:10:48
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 11 June 2013, 21:55:34
    Quote from: dadgh on Tue, 11 June 2013, 21:47:37
    I placed an order through the DA cherry switch bot (7bit) for 90 PCB Mounted MX Clears which were in stock and marked as shipped. It's been 2.5 weeks. At what point do I get concerned that my package may not arrive? I had literally no DA presence (new account - 0 posts) when I placed the order.

    I would send 7bit a PM or post in the order thread at DT
    okay cool thanks, I just did now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lupizza on Wed, 12 June 2013, 00:39:43
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:44:01
    Springs don't matter, they will stay quiet if you don't remove the lubrication from the stems. I suspect this is a byproduct of people handling the internals during switch modding which is why they end up louder than before.
    Oh all right, thanks for the help. Btw I really hate your avatar. It ruins my nightsurfing. ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Wed, 12 June 2013, 01:42:59
    I just got my brand spankin new Realforce Topre 87U 45g! It feels amazing. However, I found the housing or the frame of the keyboard itself to be rather flimsy. Does anyone else have this issue? The part of the case (top as opposed to bottom) which surrounds the keys can be moved back and forth rather easily like it's loose :/ I cannot pull it off from the entire keyboard however, but it is rather disconcerting since I did pay over $200 for it. So I'd expect good quality craftsmanship. Does this "shakyness" of the keyboard faceplate happen to anyone else's Realforce 87U?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Wed, 12 June 2013, 02:09:21
    Folio I believe that was a few peoples problem, I think it may be down to a bad bath, I'd reccomend giving the manufature an email
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 12 June 2013, 05:44:46
    Quote from: Folio on Wed, 12 June 2013, 01:42:59
    I just got my brand spankin new Realforce Topre 87U 45g! It feels amazing. However, I found the housing or the frame of the keyboard itself to be rather flimsy. Does anyone else have this issue? The part of the case (top as opposed to bottom) which surrounds the keys can be moved back and forth rather easily like it's loose :/ I cannot pull it off from the entire keyboard however, but it is rather disconcerting since I did pay over $200 for it. So I'd expect good quality craftsmanship. Does this "shakyness" of the keyboard faceplate happen to anyone else's Realforce 87U?

    I understand that is quite common for RealForce.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42978.msg872410#msg872410
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41494.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Wed, 12 June 2013, 09:44:56
    Quote from: Tym on Wed, 12 June 2013, 02:09:21
    Folio I believe that was a few peoples problem, I think it may be down to a bad bath, I'd reccomend giving the manufature an email

    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 12 June 2013, 05:44:46
    Quote from: Folio on Wed, 12 June 2013, 01:42:59
    I just got my brand spankin new Realforce Topre 87U 45g! It feels amazing. However, I found the housing or the frame of the keyboard itself to be rather flimsy. Does anyone else have this issue? The part of the case (top as opposed to bottom) which surrounds the keys can be moved back and forth rather easily like it's loose :/ I cannot pull it off from the entire keyboard however, but it is rather disconcerting since I did pay over $200 for it. So I'd expect good quality craftsmanship. Does this "shakyness" of the keyboard faceplate happen to anyone else's Realforce 87U?

    I understand that is quite common for RealForce.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42978.msg872410#msg872410
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41494.0

    I emailed Elite Keyboards and they answered very promptly saying I could replace it if I wanted, but they cannot guarantee that I will get a solid one. I truly appreciate their offer, but since (apparently) others have the same problem, I feel a bit less inclined to go through the trouble. It doesn't impede the use of the keyboard at all, it's just annoying knowing it's there. Maximum OCD. Thanks for your responses. It made me feel a bit better. I'll just stop being a baby and deal with it I guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 12 June 2013, 12:19:10
    Ok here is the connector that I am going to use for my "Top Secret Project".  Desoldering the wires isn't going to be an issue.  However, any suggestions on cleaning up the mess of the combined pins via mountain of solder?
    [attach=1]

    Has anyone ever made or suggested making keycaps out of marble, granite, or any other stone?

    Can diodes be soldered to the bottom side of the PCB for the phantom SMD style with the lead just sitting across the pad?

    Melvang

    Edit:  Sorry about the odd focus.  The only way i have to shoot macro is with my Lensbaby on the wifes Canon 7d using the macro extension tubes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 12 June 2013, 12:21:29
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 12 June 2013, 12:19:10
    However, any suggestions on cleaning up the mess of the combined pins via mountain of solder?

    desoldering wick?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 12 June 2013, 12:23:17
    Quote from: kmiller8 on Wed, 12 June 2013, 12:21:29
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 12 June 2013, 12:19:10
    However, any suggestions on cleaning up the mess of the combined pins via mountain of solder?

    desoldering wick?

    I have a desoldering pump but how well would it work on that mountain?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 June 2013, 12:32:00
    Unsure if pump would be that good. I'd prefer a braid for that personally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 12 June 2013, 12:41:57
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 12 June 2013, 12:23:17
    I have a desoldering pump but how well would it work on that mountain?

    I don't know, never used one, but a wick will remove most of the excess solder while still leaving enough to keep the connection if you're lucky, however if your solder joint breaks after using the wick, you'll obviously need either more solder or flux to get it back together.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 12 June 2013, 13:36:13
    Any pictures of LEDs behind some SP ABS doubleshots? White please? Raindrop if you got it?

    I looked through so many google image pages, couldn't find any. I KNOW there are some pictures somewhere though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 June 2013, 14:03:54
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 12 June 2013, 13:36:13
    Any pictures of LEDs behind some SP ABS doubleshots? White please? Raindrop if you got it?

    I looked through so many google image pages, couldn't find any. I KNOW there are some pictures somewhere though.

    Use a google search on this thread and type in "remind me to post a picture". I took pictures already earlier in this thread. Jocelyn did as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 June 2013, 14:08:46
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 12 June 2013, 13:36:13
    Any pictures of LEDs behind some SP ABS doubleshots? White please? Raindrop if you got it?

    I looked through so many google image pages, couldn't find any. I KNOW there are some pictures somewhere though.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg895963#msg895963
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 12 June 2013, 15:30:22
    Thank you! Lol I feel bad, it was in this thread the whole time. D'oh.

    One last question from me today! Where can I find a high-res or vector copy of 7bit legends?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 12 June 2013, 15:32:53
    nevermind
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 12 June 2013, 15:53:21
    I'm really confused with springs right now. So basically what I want is a Ergo-Clear variant, however without lubing them. I want to buy the springs from Originative, and I want the same spring strenght all over the keyboard. Which spring strength form Originative would be close to the original MX Clear strength or close enough to not stick? How can I compare them? Which one would you recommend (without lube)? How can I compare them to the values given at the DT wiki?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 June 2013, 16:16:29
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 12 June 2013, 15:53:21
    I'm really confused with springs right now. So basically what I want is a Ergo-Clear variant, however without lubing them. I want to buy the springs from Originative, and I want the same spring strenght all over the keyboard. Which spring strength form Originative would be close to the original MX Clear strength or close enough to not stick? How can I compare them? Which one would you recommend (without lube)? How can I compare them to the values given at the DT wiki?

    There is a ton of info in these threads that should help

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44100.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43374.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44478.0

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 12 June 2013, 16:17:48
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 12 June 2013, 15:53:21
    I'm really confused with springs right now. So basically what I want is a Ergo-Clear variant, however without lubing them. I want to buy the springs from Originative, and I want the same spring strenght all over the keyboard. Which spring strength form Originative would be close to the original MX Clear strength or close enough to not stick? How can I compare them? Which one would you recommend (without lube)? How can I compare them to the values given at the DT wiki?

    65g won't stick unlubed.  62g may or may not have issues, but will be fine on most.  From my understanding, 80g is the closest to the Clear spring (supposedly lighter still), but I could be wrong there.

    Any reason you won't be lubing them?

    Since the Korean springs are measured at bottom out and MX at actuation, it does make things more interesting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 12 June 2013, 16:32:26
    Quote from: ray4jc on Wed, 12 June 2013, 16:16:29
    There is a ton of info in these threads that should help

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44100.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43374.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44478.0
    I've seen these threads, however most people seem to lube their Ergo Clears so I wasn't sure. Thanks anyways :)
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 12 June 2013, 16:17:48
    Any reason you won't be lubing them?
    More work (well I will be stickering them so not really a valid point) + more material needed + some people say it might lose it's characteristic feeling if you overdo it... I don't know, I'm just concerned that if I would do something wrong it's a lot of work to revert it. I also don't mind the "scratchyness" at all.

    I might do it at a later point, so I'll get 62g and 65g springs. Thanks for the help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:10:28
    Does GH60 stands for GeekHack 60%?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:20:33
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:10:28
    Does GH60 stands for GeekHack 60%?
    Yeah
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:26:10
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:10:28
    Does GH60 stands for GeekHack 60%?

    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:28:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:26:10
    Quote from: linziyi on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:10:28
    Does GH60 stands for GeekHack 60%?

    Yes

    You know it's funny, because I think americans hijacked 60% meaning. It makes sense being that 61-62 keys is ~60% of 104, but I've been told the original meaning had to do with weight. This is why Poker is 40% and not 60%
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:34:07
    Speaking of %s. I want to settle something. I asked ages ago what the percentage size of a TKL would be and it was decided 80% = TKL.

    However, 87 = about 83.5% of 104.

    The question is.. 80% or 85%?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:38:58
    80%
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:43:06
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:34:07
    Speaking of %s. I want to settle something. I asked ages ago what the percentage size of a TKL would be and it was decided 80% = TKL.

    However, 87 = about 83.5% of 104.

    The question is.. 80% or 85%?

    Pretty sure the convention is 80% :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 13 June 2013, 01:42:42
    Never mind. Found the answer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 13 June 2013, 04:13:14
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:38:58
    80%

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:43:06
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:34:07
    Speaking of %s. I want to settle something. I asked ages ago what the percentage size of a TKL would be and it was decided 80% = TKL.

    However, 87 = about 83.5% of 104.

    The question is.. 80% or 85%?

    Pretty sure the convention is 80% :D

    Good. TEK-80 remains then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 13 June 2013, 04:14:33
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 13 June 2013, 04:13:14
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:38:58
    80%

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:43:06
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:34:07
    Speaking of %s. I want to settle something. I asked ages ago what the percentage size of a TKL would be and it was decided 80% = TKL.

    However, 87 = about 83.5% of 104.

    The question is.. 80% or 85%?

    Pretty sure the convention is 80% :D

    Good. TEK-80 remains then.

    lol I think it's funny you conclude this after I posted what I did, though I am in agreement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 13 June 2013, 04:49:35
    Does anyone know if you can successfully put a clear coat over the top of a "blued" finish like what you typically see on firearms?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:22:49
    Would using PBT keycaps decrease the actuation force of the switches because of the weight of the keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:26:11
    Quote from: linziyi on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:22:49
    Would using PBT keycaps decrease the actuation force of the switches because of the weight of the keycaps?

    LOL, technically yes, but they do not weigh that much more..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:29:53
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:26:11
    Quote from: linziyi on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:22:49
    Would using PBT keycaps decrease the actuation force of the switches because of the weight of the keycaps?

    LOL, technically yes, but they do not weigh that much more..

    Also, because of the change in feel and sound (bottoming out), they may cause one to conclude that they are heavier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:49:56
    Quote from: linziyi on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:22:49
    Would using PBT keycaps decrease the actuation force of the switches because of the weight of the keycaps?

    It doesn't feel like the actuation force changes that much. I have both PBT and ABS caps on my boards.

    Quote from: Jocelyn on Thu, 13 June 2013, 04:14:33
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 13 June 2013, 04:13:14
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:38:58
    80%

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:43:06
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 12 June 2013, 20:34:07
    Speaking of %s. I want to settle something. I asked ages ago what the percentage size of a TKL would be and it was decided 80% = TKL.

    However, 87 = about 83.5% of 104.

    The question is.. 80% or 85%?

    Pretty sure the convention is 80% :D

    Good. TEK-80 remains then.

    lol I think it's funny you conclude this after I posted what I did, though I am in agreement.

    Whether or not your statement is correct, the convention still stands. That's how we seem to use the percentages here so that's what I'm running with. I'm not frequently on DT or any of the Korean sites so I can't tell you how things are done there or even if they're the same. And FWIW, I've never heard that it was based on weight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:54:11
    Can Alps switch internals be swapped out without changing the housing like you can with Cherry MX switches?

    Edit so as not to double post but came up with a couple more questions.

    Has anyone ever used  this stuff (http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g35/c627/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-Silicone_Fiberglass_Sleeving.html)?

    If so what size would be a good fit for doing 22ga hook up wire?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:03:37
    Wow 10 hours with no posts in this thread, did I scare everyone away?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rootwyrm on Fri, 14 June 2013, 05:57:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:54:11
    Can Alps switch internals be swapped out without changing the housing like you can with Cherry MX switches?

    It varies. Simplified to Simplified and Complicated to Complicated, in a nutshell. There's probably some other ways, but that's the rule I know.


    Quote
    Edit so as not to double post but came up with a couple more questions.

    Has anyone ever used  this stuff (http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g35/c627/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-Silicone_Fiberglass_Sleeving.html)?

    If so what size would be a good fit for doing 22ga hook up wire?

    Yes, I have. For 22ga hookup wire, I don't know. The guys at FrozenCPU will know the right size for 22ga though. I've been pleasantly surprised by it - looks very nice, very sturdy, and it is flame retarding. (Don't ask.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 06:06:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:54:11
    Can Alps switch internals be swapped out without changing the housing like you can with Cherry MX switches?

    I plan on working on my Alps board this weekend. When I have switches to play with, I'll take them apart and see. Maybe post some pics.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Fri, 14 June 2013, 08:21:39
    Conventional keycap sets won't fit ErgoDox will it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 08:24:42
    Quote from: linziyi on Fri, 14 June 2013, 08:21:39
    Conventional keycap sets won't fit ErgoDox will it?

    Pretty sure it will but the Ergodox has a lot of extra caps that most sets won't have. I'd like someone to double check my answer though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Fri, 14 June 2013, 08:43:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 08:24:42
    Quote from: linziyi on Fri, 14 June 2013, 08:21:39
    Conventional keycap sets won't fit ErgoDox will it?

    Pretty sure it will but the Ergodox has a lot of extra caps that most sets won't have. I'd like someone to double check my answer though.

    Only if your set had like 4 left shift keys and a bunch of tabs.

    So cap'n is right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 10:30:57
    thanks for the info CPTBadAss and rootwyrm.  Now where was that thread about building up a keyboard using just a plate full of switches and the teensy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 June 2013, 10:32:06
    In my signature :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 10:33:24
    Thanks JD i did just find it though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 June 2013, 10:34:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 10:33:24
    Thanks JD i did just find it though.

    I figured it was a somewhat rhetorical question, but I like to provide answers when I can. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:18:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 10:30:57
    thanks for the info CPTBadAss and rootwyrm.  Now where was that thread about building up a keyboard using just a plate full of switches and the teensy?

    I would suggest this thread also for discussions on Hasu's TMK keyboard firmware.
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:32:30
    What's this?

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Tastatur-AT-Fujitsu-N860-4720-T103-semi-mechanisch-mit-Klick-clicky-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/63cAAOxy2YtRsYhk/$(KGrHqVHJB8FGtwCRsppBRsYhjnVNQ~~60_12.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:34:39
    Looks like a plunger over rubber dome board at a quick glance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:35:59
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:18:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 10:30:57
    thanks for the info CPTBadAss and rootwyrm.  Now where was that thread about building up a keyboard using just a plate full of switches and the teensy?

    I would suggest this thread also for discussions on Hasu's TMK keyboard firmware.
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0

    Thank domo. Now how does the direct wiring method feel to type on?  I am considering this method for reasons that will remain under Classified status until complete.  And how does does this affect the sound of the keystrokes? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:36:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:34:39
    Looks like a plunger over rubber dome board at a quick glance.

    Yep, with a spring! For some unknown reason... I doubt if it adds more than 5cN resistance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:44:43
    Looks like Fujitsu Peerless. They are more similar to buckling springs in how they work, but totally linear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:46:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:35:59
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 14 June 2013, 11:18:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 10:30:57
    thanks for the info CPTBadAss and rootwyrm.  Now where was that thread about building up a keyboard using just a plate full of switches and the teensy?

    I would suggest this thread also for discussions on Hasu's TMK keyboard firmware.
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0

    Thank domo. Now how does the direct wiring method feel to type on?  I am considering this method for reasons that will remain under Classified status until complete.  And how does does this affect the sound of the keystrokes?

    Should feel the same to type on but the overall weight should be lighter since you don't have a PCB. I've never actually tried a direct wired board though. Ask TheFlyingRaccoon or Matt30. They've very recently made direct wired boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: unnatural on Fri, 14 June 2013, 15:42:35
    Kinda a newbie here, is it possible to change the spring and oil a plate mounted cherry switch without desoldering/soldering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 15:45:05
    Quote from: unnatural on Fri, 14 June 2013, 15:42:35
    Kinda a newbie here, is it possible to change the spring and oil a plate mounted cherry switch without desoldering/soldering?

    Please read the OP
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: unnatural on Fri, 14 June 2013, 15:50:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 15:45:05
    Quote from: unnatural on Fri, 14 June 2013, 15:42:35
    Kinda a newbie here, is it possible to change the spring and oil a plate mounted cherry switch without desoldering/soldering?

    Please read the OP

    Thanks, I missed the first read through  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Fri, 14 June 2013, 23:39:16
    I found this at the volunteer organization I've been working for to clean up Moore. It's an old church's gym and it Had an oooold Internet cafe that we cleared out.

    It stuck out to me because of the ISO layout with short right shift and the fact that it felt better than a membrane. Initially thought it was because the back was all metal so I figured the plate was making it sturdy. Just got home to check it out and pulled a cap off. To my surprise...AND the caps are MX compatible. It's a Packard Bell 5131C.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 14 June 2013, 23:42:38
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Fri, 14 June 2013, 23:39:16
    I found this at the volunteer organization I've been working for to clean up Moore. It's an old church's gym and it Had an oooold Internet cafe that we cleared out.

    It stuck out to me because of the ISO layout with short right shift and the fact that it felt better than a membrane. Initially thought it was because the back was all metal so I figured the plate was making it sturdy. Just got home to check it out and pulled a cap off. To my surprise...AND the caps are MX compatible. It's a Packard Bell 5131C.

    Not sure if that's a question, but it's a rubber dome (http://deskthority.net/wiki/BTC_dome_with_slider)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 23:48:25
    Is there a question here that I'm missing remodyhalopc?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 14 June 2013, 23:48:36
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Fri, 14 June 2013, 23:39:16
    I found this at the volunteer organization I've been working for to clean up Moore. It's an old church's gym and it Had an oooold Internet cafe that we cleared out.

    It stuck out to me because of the ISO layout with short right shift and the fact that it felt better than a membrane. Initially thought it was because the back was all metal so I figured the plate was making it sturdy. Just got home to check it out and pulled a cap off. To my surprise...AND the caps are MX compatible. It's a Packard Bell 5131C.

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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Sat, 15 June 2013, 00:36:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 23:48:25
    Is there a question here that I'm missing remodyhalopc?

    Yikes. That's what 15 hour work days do to you. :P

    It was indeed missing my question. I was asking if they were early ML switches or just the sliders on a membrane. Question has been answered. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sat, 15 June 2013, 09:04:39
    Where can I buy a keycap set for egrodox?

    Or is there actually anyone selling it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Meijiera on Sat, 15 June 2013, 09:26:45
    Hey do you know if White PBT caps will turn yellow or any unwanted changes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 15 June 2013, 09:50:12
    I have yet to see yellowed PBT keycaps, even on ancient 30 year old keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 June 2013, 10:23:15
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 15 June 2013, 09:04:39
    Where can I buy a keycap set for egrodox?

    Or is there actually anyone selling it?

    Retro DSA
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Sat, 15 June 2013, 11:28:15
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Sat, 15 June 2013, 00:36:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 23:48:25
    Is there a question here that I'm missing remodyhalopc?

    Yikes. That's what 15 hour work days do to you. :P

    It was indeed missing my question. I was asking if they were early ML switches or just the sliders on a membrane. Question has been answered. Thanks!

    I think you mean MY, not ML. I'm pretty sure yours is just slider over dome though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sat, 15 June 2013, 12:55:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 June 2013, 10:23:15
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 15 June 2013, 09:04:39
    Where can I buy a keycap set for egrodox?

    Or is there actually anyone selling it?

    Retro DSA

    Is there any other choices? Not sure if I like DSA...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 June 2013, 12:56:42
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 15 June 2013, 12:55:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 June 2013, 10:23:15
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 15 June 2013, 09:04:39
    Where can I buy a keycap set for egrodox?

    Or is there actually anyone selling it?

    Retro DSA

    Is there any other choices? Not sure if I like DSA...

    You'll have to buy like 4 of the same set since I think you need a bunch of 1.25 mods and other random caps that are normally not included in normal sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:08:16
    :O Thanks very much for the super fast reply!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:11:46
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:08:16
    :O Thanks very much for the super fast reply!

    No worries :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:49:44
    What is this "potato" pic i keep hearing about?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:51:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:49:44
    What is this "potato" pic i keep hearing about?

    It's a picture taken with a cell phone camera. It's like saying the phone is barely better than a potato or something. Low quality picture warning pretty much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:53:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:49:44
    What is this "potato" pic i keep hearing about?

    I is a professional potagrapher.  I help explain.

    (http://i.imgur.com/zBQ2njS.jpg)

    You get?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 15 June 2013, 14:03:40
    I got thanx guys.  Also nuby why would they use a Canon Rebel for that potato pic?  The Rebels aren't that bad of cameras. Just not in the same realm as the 1dsMarkIII
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 15 June 2013, 22:46:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 June 2013, 00:47:44
    Quote from: linziyi on Mon, 10 June 2013, 19:32:23
    The Trope switches have tactile point very high like membrane keyboard right?

    No, to me, the actuation point felt like it was in the middle. Very much where the Cherry actuation point is.

    I played with mine, after having read this. At first I was sure it's closer to the top.

    Now I feel like it's somewhere between the top and middle, "slash" not even sure anymore.  :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:50:43
    62g Korean springs vs 65g Korean springs: is the difference that noticeable?  Are either of them more "springy"--in other words restore to their normal shape after a keypress more quickly (which is not just a function of the spring constant--more of the shorter relaxation time).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:54:38
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:50:43
    62g Korean springs vs 65g Korean springs: is the difference that noticeable?  Are either of them more "springy"--in other words restore to their normal shape after a keypress more quickly (which is not just a function of the spring constant--more of the shorter relaxation time).

    Yes there is a difference. Check out the review in my signature for my thoughts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:57:37
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:50:43
    62g Korean springs vs 65g Korean springs: is the difference that noticeable?  Are either of them more "springy"--in other words restore to their normal shape after a keypress more quickly (which is not just a function of the spring constant--more of the shorter relaxation time).

    I notice a difference in the feel of the return in Clears between 62g and 65g.  There's a tiny, barely noticeable difference in the feel on the way down to me (which could just be me wanting there to be a difference), but the return has less hesitation and returns quicker with 65g springs than 62g springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 June 2013, 13:00:54
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:57:37
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:50:43
    62g Korean springs vs 65g Korean springs: is the difference that noticeable?  Are either of them more "springy"--in other words restore to their normal shape after a keypress more quickly (which is not just a function of the spring constant--more of the shorter relaxation time).

    I notice a difference in the feel of the return in Clears between 62g and 65g.  There's a tiny, barely noticeable difference in the feel on the way down to me (which could just be me wanting there to be a difference), but the return has less hesitation and returns quicker with 65g springs than 62g springs.

    I also agree that the 62g springs are a bit slugggish and stick when put into most switches besides the Clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 16 June 2013, 13:02:44
    Thank you, I continued this discussion here:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.msg931885#msg931885
    As I would like to know asap (for ergo Clear mod, ordering springs now)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Sun, 16 June 2013, 15:41:40
    Sorry if its been asked before, I did look.

    What switches are on the AT102W I'm looking at purchasing a cheap one currently, also what would you value it at?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 16 June 2013, 16:37:50
    Quote from: Tym on Sun, 16 June 2013, 15:41:40
    Sorry if its been asked before, I did look.

    What switches are on the AT102W I'm looking at purchasing a cheap one currently, also what would you value it at?

    Usually black Alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 June 2013, 17:41:44
    Quote from: Tym on Sun, 16 June 2013, 15:41:40
    What switches are on the AT102W I'm looking at purchasing a cheap one currently, also what would you value it at?

    Please read the OP. We have a thread for asking for prices already and it's not this one. Please and thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 05:23:08
    if ordering from SP's blank keycap inventory, what size do I use for the numpad's plus and enter?
    Also, if I wanted to upgrade the USB ports on my HPE 104 (they're crappy) to USB 2.0 or 3.0.. is it possible? Would I be able to desolder the old USB and add a new one? Or is it more complicated? I have no experience on the matter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Mon, 17 June 2013, 05:27:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 June 2013, 17:41:44
    Quote from: Tym on Sun, 16 June 2013, 15:41:40
    What switches are on the AT102W I'm looking at purchasing a cheap one currently, also what would you value it at?

    Please read the OP. We have a thread for asking for prices already and it's not this one. Please and thanks!
    Read the OP with regards to what? and I thought the questions went hand-in-hard really, not meaning to be rude, but it was a simple question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 June 2013, 06:47:49
    Quote from: Tym on Mon, 17 June 2013, 05:27:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 June 2013, 17:41:44
    Quote from: Tym on Sun, 16 June 2013, 15:41:40
    What switches are on the AT102W I'm looking at purchasing a cheap one currently, also what would you value it at?

    Please read the OP. We have a thread for asking for prices already and it's not this one. Please and thanks!
    Read the OP with regards to what? and I thought the questions went hand-in-hard really, not meaning to be rude, but it was a simple question.

    This isn't the pricing thread and I say in the OP to please not ask questions about pricing or to do any buying or selling here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Mon, 17 June 2013, 06:48:44
    Oh, thought you were referring to the switch answer, which hurt my head; my apologies.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 June 2013, 07:00:37
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 05:23:08
    if ordering from SP's blank keycap inventory, what size do I use for the numpad's plus and enter?
    Also, if I wanted to upgrade the USB ports on my HPE 104 (they're crappy) to USB 2.0 or 3.0.. is it possible? Would I be able to desolder the old USB and add a new one? Or is it more complicated? I have no experience on the matter.

    It's a lot more complicated than that. They should already be usb 2 and going to usb 3 involves different chipsets, power requirements and different cabling depending on the devices used.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 June 2013, 08:31:49
    Quote from: ray4jc on Mon, 17 June 2013, 07:00:37
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 05:23:08
    if ordering from SP's blank keycap inventory, what size do I use for the numpad's plus and enter?
    Also, if I wanted to upgrade the USB ports on my HPE 104 (they're crappy) to USB 2.0 or 3.0.. is it possible? Would I be able to desolder the old USB and add a new one? Or is it more complicated? I have no experience on the matter.

    It's a lot more complicated than that. They should already be usb 2 and going to usb 3 involves different chipsets, power requirements and different cabling depending on the devices used.

    Yup the USB 2.0 plugs have 4 leads while 3.0 has 9 leads in it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 June 2013, 09:36:23
    I'm sure this is mentioned in one of the reviews but my quick search fu and scanning hasn't gotten my info so I'm asking here.

    On the FC660C can only one dip switch be activated at a time? Say I want to swap FN and WIN and also swap WIN and ALT (which would actually be swapping FN and ALT), is this possible? tl:dr dip switch 2 and 3 activate at the same time?

    Also can one acquire the springs found under the spacebar to add to the rest of the keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Mon, 17 June 2013, 09:50:29
    Jocelyn and others talk about these things before, on, and after page 16 of:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42300.msg905968#msg905968
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 June 2013, 10:05:49
    Quote from: therecorder on Mon, 17 June 2013, 09:50:29
    Jocelyn and others talk about these things before, on, and after page 16 of:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42300.msg905968#msg905968

    Thanks! I knew I had read that somewhere before!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:14:46
    Are Cherry MX green switches nice for a balance of typing and gaming(WoW, CS:GO, BF3)? Switches that I have used prior are Blues and Topre 55's. Am thinking about trying them on the upcoming ducky pro pbt models.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:17:06
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:14:46
    Are Cherry MX green switches nice for a balance of typing and gaming(WoW, CS:GO, BF3)? Switches that I have used prior are Blues and Topre 55's. Am thinking about trying them on the upcoming ducky pro pbt models.

    Subjective, it's personal preference. There's no such thing as "good for typing" vs "good for gaming". Just what you like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:48:19
    Thank you for the quick reply, I figured this would be the response. I need to stop being so indecisive and just pick one.  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 16:28:51
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:48:19
    Thank you for the quick reply, I figured this would be the response. I need to stop being so indecisive and just pick one.  ;D
    Try it, and if you don't like it, sell it. Surprisingly, keyboard turn around rate is very fast, in my experience. I've bought 4 total keyboards, got rid of the first two quickly to make room for my last two. They sell fast if you know where to sell them. Also I've tried browns and blacks. I was thinking of doing ghetto greens because from what I've heard, it uses black spring and blue stems, which means that it'll be clicky like a blue, but have a stronger spring like the blacks. Does this comparison help?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 16:35:43
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 16:28:51
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:48:19
    Thank you for the quick reply, I figured this would be the response. I need to stop being so indecisive and just pick one.  ;D
    Try it, and if you don't like it, sell it. Surprisingly, keyboard turn around rate is very fast, in my experience. I've bought 4 total keyboards, got rid of the first two quickly to make room for my last two. They sell fast if you know where to sell them. Also I've tried browns and blacks. I was thinking of doing ghetto greens because from what I've heard, it uses black spring and blue stems, which means that it'll be clicky like a blue, but have a stronger spring like the blacks. Does this comparison help?
    It does very much, thank you.  I think the only thing scaring me away from trying greens is the actuation force. I think it's a good opportunity to try them though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Mon, 17 June 2013, 21:47:59
    Greens are very nice to type and game on. I play counterstrike competitively, and used a board with greens for a few months.


    Who has made blank OEM PBT caps? Imsto's are cherry profile. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: knotra on Tue, 18 June 2013, 00:42:38
    How heavy are topre capacitive switches in comparison to cherry mx switches?

    Ex. 45g cherry mx (browns) switch with 45g topre switches on RF.

    Do topres get lighter through use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 18 June 2013, 02:24:47
    Does anyone know how similar WAN and WFJ are? Also do you know when SP typically updates their stock? Hasn't been updated in over 10 days.. I don't wanna order and get it cancelled.

    http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/pbtWhites.JPG
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 06:53:42
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 18 June 2013, 02:24:47
    1) Does anyone know how similar WAN and WFJ are?
    2) Also do you know when SP typically updates their stock?

    1) WAN looks like a brighter, "whiter" shade of white. WFJ looks a bit off-white. Just look at them for yourself and compare?
    2) I don't know, but you can ask Melissa (SP Saleslady) if you email them.


    Quote from: knotra on Tue, 18 June 2013, 00:42:38
    1) How heavy are topre capacitive switches in comparison to cherry mx switches?

    Ex. 45g cherry mx (browns) switch with 45g topre switches on RF.

    2) Do topres get lighter through use?

    1) First off, MX switches are rated in centi-Newtons (cN) or ounces of force (oz), not grams of force (g). Typically cN numbers are from Deskthority and those are the 45 cN numbers we're used to. But the Cherry Corp data sheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm) gives actuation in oz. If we look at raw numbers, 100 cN = ~102 g. So technically, 45 g > 45 cN. However, I found it hard to compare Topre actuation forces to MX switches when I tried them.

    2) Don't think so but I don't own a Topre.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 18 June 2013, 11:43:41
    Does "thick" PBT feels any different from normal PBT keycaps? Or are they just thick?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 13:14:28
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 18 June 2013, 11:43:41
    Does "thick" PBT feels any different from normal PBT keycaps? Or are they just thick?

    I've tried three thicknesses of PBT caps: Vortex's stock thin, Leopold's "Thick" PBT which I feel are medium-thickness, and Imsto's thick PBT caps. They all felt different. ABS caps will feel different depending on thickness as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Tue, 18 June 2013, 13:56:55
    Anyone know the part number for Cherry plate mount stabilizers? Also, do they make 7x plate mount stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FuriousGeorge on Tue, 18 June 2013, 14:14:12
    Are there any options for replacement 4.5 spacebars? I have a Tex Beetle, and I think the new Pure 2 may use the same size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 June 2013, 14:18:23
    Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 18 June 2013, 13:56:55
    Anyone know the part number for Cherry plate mount stabilizers? Also, do they make 7x plate mount stabs?

    Shoot WFD a PM, he can probably hook you up!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 14:22:29
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 18 June 2013, 14:18:23
    Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 18 June 2013, 13:56:55
    Anyone know the part number for Cherry plate mount stabilizers? Also, do they make 7x plate mount stabs?

    Shoot WFD a PM, he can probably hook you up!

    Pretty sure 7x wasn't possible for Costar but it was for Cherry. Cant remember if it was plate or PCB though. I remember asking about 7x stabilizers to WFD for the GH60. Waiting for lysol/Ivan to come through with Cherry knowledge bombs.


    Quote from: FuriousGeorge on Tue, 18 June 2013, 14:14:12
    Are there any options for replacement 4.5 spacebars? I have a Tex Beetle, and I think the new Pure 2 may use the same size.

    Doubt it but just because I've never heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 18 June 2013, 14:44:15
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Mon, 17 June 2013, 21:47:59
    Who has made blank OEM PBT caps? Imsto's are cherry profile. :(

    KBC, though they are thin, not thick like imsto's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 June 2013, 14:45:56
    If you accidentally 'marked forum as read' is there any going back?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:35:59
    how hard will it be to catch up on missing like 5 days at Geekhack? xD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:38:12
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:35:59
    how hard will it be to catch up on missing like 5 days at Geekhack? xD

    It's not hard and if you comment on every other posts you can get to 18 posts a day! Of course when you get done and look around a day or two might have past bye.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:39:22
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:38:12
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:35:59
    how hard will it be to catch up on missing like 5 days at Geekhack? xD

    It's not hard and if you comment on every other posts you can get to 18 posts a day! Of course when you get done and look around a day or two might have past bye.

    jesus man 18 a day?
    none other then the spamray xD

    i've dropped down to 9.4...which i think is a good thing haha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:39:58
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:35:59
    how hard will it be to catch up on missing like 5 days at Geekhack? xD

    You don't. Get out of the game and gimme your Poker :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:40:19
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:35:59
    how hard will it be to catch up on missing like 5 days at Geekhack? xD
    Literally impossible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:41:48
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:40:19
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:35:59
    how hard will it be to catch up on missing like 5 days at Geekhack? xD
    Literally impossible.

    so much has changed...oh this is gonna take a while
    i return to the IRC tonight! funks makes a return

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:39:58
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Tue, 18 June 2013, 15:35:59
    how hard will it be to catch up on missing like 5 days at Geekhack? xD

    You don't. Get out of the game and gimme your Poker :P

    Not today! :p
    need dat legendary pink mods pink alphas purple clusters GB
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 June 2013, 16:19:53
    Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 18 June 2013, 13:56:55
    Anyone know the part number for Cherry plate mount stabilizers? Also, do they make 7x plate mount stabs?

    Mouser #: 540-G99-0224

    They come with 2x wires. If you want a 7x wire, you'll have to get some wire and bend your own, I'm afraid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 19:08:23
    Completely noob question here, what are the diodes inside of some Cherry MX switches for?  Advantages/disadvantages of having them/not having them?  Do all custom kb PCB's support them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 20:40:03
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 19:08:23
    1)Completely noob question here, what are the diodes inside of some Cherry MX switches for? 
    2)Advantages/disadvantages of having them/not having them? 
    3)Do all custom kb PCB's support them?

    1) You need them to regulate the electrical flow in the board.
    2) It's not an advantage or disadvantage to have one. You must have one. The diodes can either go into the switch or they're already soldered to the board.
    3) Some boards have the diodes in the switch that you have to add in separately like my Epsilon and KMAC. Others might have the board populated already.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 20:52:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 20:40:03
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 19:08:23
    1)Completely noob question here, what are the diodes inside of some Cherry MX switches for? 
    2)Advantages/disadvantages of having them/not having them? 
    3)Do all custom kb PCB's support them?

    1) You need them to regulate the electrical flow in the board.
    2) It's not an advantage or disadvantage to have one. You must have one. The diodes can either go into the switch or they're already soldered to the board.
    3) Some boards have the diodes in the switch that you have to add in separately like my Epsilon and KMAC. Others might have the board populated already.
    OH okay thanks.  Does the GH60 have them on the board, or do they need to be in the switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 18 June 2013, 21:49:35
    Does anyone know if Cherry's POM caps for the G80-3000 would match the round 1 PBT dye subs? In profile I mean. Thankss

    Also does anyone have a pic of a full size keyboard with black on white alphas and white on black mods? And vise versa?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:01:30
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 20:52:37
    OH okay thanks.  Does the GH60 have them on the board, or do they need to be in the switch?

    Not sure, I think no. Hopefully jdcarpe will poke his head in here and answer.


    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 18 June 2013, 21:49:35
    1) Does anyone know if Cherry's POM caps for the G80-3000 would match the round 1 PBT dye subs? In profile I mean.

    2) Also does anyone have a pic of a full size keyboard with black on white alphas and white on black mods? And vise versa?

    1) Don't know about the POM caps but my GMK caps have the same profile as the Imsto Dye Subs. I have the R1 Black on Blue Set.

    2) I don't have this, sorry. But maybe this (http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G81-7000_2_Aufs.jpg) and this (http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G81-7000_0_Aufs.jpg) will help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:06:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:01:30
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 20:52:37
    OH okay thanks.  Does the GH60 have them on the board, or do they need to be in the switch?

    Not sure, I think no. Hopefully jdcarpe will poke his head in here and answer.


    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 18 June 2013, 21:49:35
    1) Does anyone know if Cherry's POM caps for the G80-3000 would match the round 1 PBT dye subs? In profile I mean.

    2) Also does anyone have a pic of a full size keyboard with black on white alphas and white on black mods? And vise versa?

    1) Don't know about the POM caps but my GMK caps have the same profile as the Imsto Dye Subs. I have the R1 Black on Blue Set.

    2) I don't have this, sorry. But maybe this (http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G81-7000_2_Aufs.jpg) and this (http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G81-7000_0_Aufs.jpg) will help.

    What is GMK?I'm not  familiar with the company
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:09:37
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:06:48
    What is GMK? I'm not  familiar with the company

    They're the ones who bought the Cherry ABS molds. That's how we're getting new Cherry caps in various GBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:12:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:09:37
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:06:48
    What is GMK? I'm not  familiar with the company

    They're the ones who bought the Cherry ABS molds. That's how we're getting new Cherry caps in various GBs.

    Alright thanks Cap!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:15:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:01:30
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 20:52:37
    OH okay thanks.  Does the GH60 have them on the board, or do they need to be in the switch?

    Not sure, I think no. Hopefully jdcarpe will poke his head in here and answer.
    Oh that question is answered in the GH60 thread!  They are soldered on.  So if I order switches with diodes in them do I HAVE to remove them?  Or can they be left in?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:17:56
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:15:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:01:30
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 20:52:37
    OH okay thanks.  Does the GH60 have them on the board, or do they need to be in the switch?

    Not sure, I think no. Hopefully jdcarpe will poke his head in here and answer.
    Oh that question is answered in the GH60 thread!  They are soldered on.  So if I order switches with diodes in them do I HAVE to remove them?  Or can they be left in?

    Well that's good to know. You'll have to remove the diodes, I'm like 90% certain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:18:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:17:56
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:15:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 June 2013, 22:01:30
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 20:52:37
    OH okay thanks.  Does the GH60 have them on the board, or do they need to be in the switch?

    Not sure, I think no. Hopefully jdcarpe will poke his head in here and answer.
    Oh that question is answered in the GH60 thread!  They are soldered on.  So if I order switches with diodes in them do I HAVE to remove them?  Or can they be left in?

    Well that's good to know. You'll have to remove the diodes, I'm like 90% certain.
    Alright good to know.  Thanks for the help mate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 18 June 2013, 23:12:22
    Any sign of this thing yet? Does it even actually exist? (LED Poker 2)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:28:06
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 18 June 2013, 23:12:22
    Any sign of this thing yet? Does it even actually exist? (LED Poker 2)

    No, and not yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:49:24
    The GH60 will come from the fab with SMD diodes already soldered to the PCB.

    If you have switches with diodes (or jumpers) inside them, you will have to remove them from the switch before you can solder the switch to the GH60 PCB.

    :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:55:23
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:49:24
    If you have switches with diodes (or jumpers) inside them, you will have to remove them from the switch before you can solder the switch to the GH60 PCB.

    The jumpers are the little wires that I've been removing from the area where the diodes go correct? If it helps, I'm putting diodes into the MX Black switches that you sold me. What do the jumpers do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:42:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:55:23
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:49:24
    If you have switches with diodes (or jumpers) inside them, you will have to remove them from the switch before you can solder the switch to the GH60 PCB.

    The jumpers are the little wires that I've been removing from the area where the diodes go correct? If it helps, I'm putting diodes into the MX Black switches that you sold me. What do the jumpers do?

    A Simple Question from the man himself! :P

    The jumpers do the same thing as diodes in Cherry boards, except that you only get 2KRO. Cheap bastards, how hard is it just to use diodes and add support for NKRO to the controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:43:53
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:42:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:55:23
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:49:24
    If you have switches with diodes (or jumpers) inside them, you will have to remove them from the switch before you can solder the switch to the GH60 PCB.

    The jumpers are the little wires that I've been removing from the area where the diodes go correct? If it helps, I'm putting diodes into the MX Black switches that you sold me. What do the jumpers do?

    A Simple Question from the man himself! :P

    The jumpers do the same thing as diodes in Cherry boards, except that you only get 2KRO. Cheap bastards, how hard is it just to use diodes and add support for NKRO to the controller?
    So if I were to buy an old Cherry board with 2KRO could I swap the jumpers with diodes to give it NKRO? Or is it not that simple?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:45:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:43:53
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:42:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:55:23
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 07:49:24
    If you have switches with diodes (or jumpers) inside them, you will have to remove them from the switch before you can solder the switch to the GH60 PCB.

    The jumpers are the little wires that I've been removing from the area where the diodes go correct? If it helps, I'm putting diodes into the MX Black switches that you sold me. What do the jumpers do?

    A Simple Question from the man himself! :P

    The jumpers do the same thing as diodes in Cherry boards, except that you only get 2KRO. Cheap bastards, how hard is it just to use diodes and add support for NKRO to the controller?
    So if I were to buy an old Cherry board with 2KRO could I swap the jumpers with diodes will it have NKRO? Or is it not that simple?

    No, not if the controller they used doesn't support NKRO. And why would it, when they didn't bother to use diodes?

    You would have to replace the jumpers with diodes AND replace the controller with a Teensy or similar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:48:35
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:45:31

    No, not if the controller they used doesn't support NKRO. And why would it, when they didn't bother to use diodes?

    You would have to replace the jumpers with diodes AND replace the controller with a Teensy or similar.
    Oh I see. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:53:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:42:09
    The jumpers do the same thing as diodes in Cherry boards, except that you only get 2KRO. Cheap bastards, how hard is it just to use diodes and add support for NKRO to the controller?

    Does that mean my statement was incorrect; You don't need diodes and only need the jumpers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 09:04:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:53:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:42:09
    The jumpers do the same thing as diodes in Cherry boards, except that you only get 2KRO. Cheap bastards, how hard is it just to use diodes and add support for NKRO to the controller?

    Does that mean my statement was incorrect; You don't need diodes and only need the jumpers?

    Well, I'm no genius when it comes to electronic circuits. But I think that if you need diodes, then you need diodes. If you need jumpers, you might be able to use diodes in their place, if installed in the right direction.

    Also, you're installing diodes for the Epsilon, right? You definitely have to use diodes, not jumpers, in that case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 19 June 2013, 09:26:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 09:04:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:53:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:42:09
    The jumpers do the same thing as diodes in Cherry boards, except that you only get 2KRO. Cheap bastards, how hard is it just to use diodes and add support for NKRO to the controller?

    Does that mean my statement was incorrect; You don't need diodes and only need the jumpers?

    Well, I'm no genius when it comes to electronic circuits. But I think that if you need diodes, then you need diodes. If you need jumpers, you might be able to use diodes in their place, if installed in the right direction.

    Also, you're installing diodes for the Epsilon, right? You definitely have to use diodes, not jumpers, in that case.
    If you have diodes on the board why would the switches need jumpers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 09:33:47
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Wed, 19 June 2013, 09:26:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 09:04:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:53:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 08:42:09
    The jumpers do the same thing as diodes in Cherry boards, except that you only get 2KRO. Cheap bastards, how hard is it just to use diodes and add support for NKRO to the controller?

    Does that mean my statement was incorrect; You don't need diodes and only need the jumpers?

    Well, I'm no genius when it comes to electronic circuits. But I think that if you need diodes, then you need diodes. If you need jumpers, you might be able to use diodes in their place, if installed in the right direction.

    Also, you're installing diodes for the Epsilon, right? You definitely have to use diodes, not jumpers, in that case.
    If you have diodes on the board why would the switches need jumpers?

    Epsilon doesn't have diodes on the board. You have to use in-switch diodes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 19 June 2013, 09:40:03
    Ah okay.  Thanks for the info jd.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Wed, 19 June 2013, 10:41:31
    Can anyone tell me how similar in feel the Fc660c and the 87U All 45g are?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 10:44:34
    Quote from: therecorder on Wed, 19 June 2013, 10:41:31
    Can anyone tell me how similar in feel the Fc660c and the 87U All 45g are?

    Not really a simple question since it'll be different per person.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Wed, 19 June 2013, 10:51:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 10:44:34
    Quote from: therecorder on Wed, 19 June 2013, 10:41:31
    Can anyone tell me how similar in feel the Fc660c and the 87U All 45g are?

    Not really a simple question since it'll be different per person.

    I'm thinking of a comparison by one person who owns both.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 19 June 2013, 11:11:14
    I have some insight to these questions about diodes vs jumpers on G80, as I have finally gotten around to making an experiment. I took old G80-3000 ISO board I had with jumper, 2KRO. I installed the diodes.
    I plugged it into the PC and BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. Then it died. The controller is cooked I think. Now, I have a controller from an old G80-1000 that had NKRO, so I am going to see if I can install that into the 3000 and get it working again.

    All Cherry cylindrical keycaps from G80/G81 have the same profile regardless of ABS, PBT or POM. Mix and match to however you like it. I have some photos of Cherry 2tone white/black, black/white, etc combos on my photobucket, but it is turned off for excessive traffic so I guess that won't really help you much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DasHHKBProM on Wed, 19 June 2013, 20:39:26
    HHKB PRO 2& Maple story
    In maple story you cannot bind wasd and character can only be controlled with arrows
    Is there any simple method out there to lock the [fn] key

    atm i hold fn with pinky and use arrows aside from a tooth pick or tape is there any other way to hold this key down or lock the key in a capslock way
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 20:44:37
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Wed, 19 June 2013, 20:39:26
    HHKB PRO 2& Maple story
    In maple story you cannot bind wasd and character can only be controlled with arrows
    Is there any simple method out there to lock the [fn] key

    atm i hold fn with pinky and use arrows aside from a tooth pick or tape is there any other way to hold this key down or lock the key in a capslock way

    You could try the key lockouts (http://www.keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php) from SP or write an AHK script.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:12:40
    Do any mechanical Compaq branded keyboards exist?  Also what kind of switches can I expect from older IBM keyboards?  A guy I work with says he has one or two IBM boards and an older Compaq and just want an idea what I might be getting into.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:23:24
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:12:40
    1) Do any mechanical Compaq branded keyboards exist? 
    2) Also what kind of switches can I expect from older IBM keyboards?  A guy I work with says he has one or two IBM boards and an older Compaq and just want an idea what I might be getting into.

    1) Ivan said that Compaq boards are often rebranded Cherry boards. So hopefully some MX boards
    2) Rubber dome, proto-topre, M and F Buckling Spring switches are all possibilities. IBM is usually Buckling Springs though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:46:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:12:40
    Do any mechanical Compaq branded keyboards exist?

    Sure do. Probably the most common is the MX 11800, which has mx browns and a trackball. The were originally designed for server rooms / comms racks from what I understand.

    And now for my question: what would be the cheapest place to get a set of thick dyesub pbt for my Poker 2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:51:00
    Quote from: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:46:33
    And now for my question: what would be the cheapest place to get a set of thick dyesub pbt for my Poker 2?

    Um...Poker 2 comes with PBT caps. See picture #4 here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42523.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:55:08
    Yes, I realise that. But I would like to get a more 'cherry-like' set (in terms of fonts, colouring etc).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:00:09
    Quote from: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:55:08
    Yes, I realise that. But I would like to get a more 'cherry-like' set (in terms of fonts, colouring etc).

    You can try getting actual Cherry PBT caps. I just got a set for the cost of shipping from a G81-7000. There is also a GB going on now for BSP caps. The company BSP bought the Cherry PBT molds, much like how GMK bought the ABS molds, and is making new Cherry PBT caps. You can also try getting in on Ivan's PBT R2 GB, but these won't be Cherry color or font. Finally, you can try scoring a good deal on Imsto's R1 PBT caps, which are Cherry replica in profile, but again, not color or font.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:01:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:00:09
    Quote from: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:55:08
    Yes, I realise that. But I would like to get a more 'cherry-like' set (in terms of fonts, colouring etc).

    You can try getting actual Cherry PBT caps. I just got a set for the cost of shipping from a G81-7000. There is also a GB going on now for BSP caps. The company BSP bought the Cherry PBT molds, much like how GMK bought the ABS molds, and is making new Cherry PBT caps. You can also try getting in on Ivan's PBT R2 GB, but these won't be Cherry color or font. Finally, you can try scoring a good deal on Imsto's R1 PBT caps, which are Cherry replica in profile, but again, not color or font.

    Thanks, that was the kind of info I was after. Much appreciated.

    Might have to keep an eye out for a G81-7000 to appear
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:04:07
    Quote from: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:01:48
    Might have to keep an eye out for a G81-7000 to appear

    Be careful, G81-7000's are pretty common but they have both ABS and PBT caps. I *believe* that the white on black/black on beige caps are ABS while the black on white are PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sai on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:15:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:00:09
    Quote from: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:55:08
    Yes, I realise that. But I would like to get a more 'cherry-like' set (in terms of fonts, colouring etc).

    You can try getting actual Cherry PBT caps. I just got a set for the cost of shipping from a G81-7000. There is also a GB going on now for BSP caps. The company BSP bought the Cherry PBT molds, much like how GMK bought the ABS molds, and is making new Cherry PBT caps. You can also try getting in on Ivan's PBT R2 GB, but these won't be Cherry color or font. Finally, you can try scoring a good deal on Imsto's R1 PBT caps, which are Cherry replica in profile, but again, not color or font.

    i believe the font is the cherry font only the color is different way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:21:28
    Quote from: Sai on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:15:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:00:09
    Quote from: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:55:08
    Yes, I realise that. But I would like to get a more 'cherry-like' set (in terms of fonts, colouring etc).

    You can try getting actual Cherry PBT caps. I just got a set for the cost of shipping from a G81-7000. There is also a GB going on now for BSP caps. The company BSP bought the Cherry PBT molds, much like how GMK bought the ABS molds, and is making new Cherry PBT caps. You can also try getting in on Ivan's PBT R2 GB, but these won't be Cherry color or font. Finally, you can try scoring a good deal on Imsto's R1 PBT caps, which are Cherry replica in profile, but again, not color or font.

    i believe the font is the cherry font only the color is different way.

    What set exactly are you referring to?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sai on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:23:14
    i am referring to Cherry Replica GB R1 and R2 by Lysol.
    i forgot to mention it. ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:25:35
    Quote from: Sai on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:23:14
    i am referring to Cherry Replica GB R1 and R2 by Lysol.
    i forgot to mention it. ;D

    The Round 1 Imsto Cherry Replicas were lasered I believe and the legends were disappointing IMO. They're fuzzy, not crisp like Cherry or GMK fonts. Hopefully R2 is better.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:49:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:04:07
    Quote from: mr626 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:01:48
    Might have to keep an eye out for a G81-7000 to appear

    Be careful, G81-7000's are pretty common but they have both ABS and PBT caps. I *believe* that the white on black/black on beige caps are ABS while the black on white are PBT.

    From my reading, you should be able to tell via the codes cherry uses. For dyesub PBT 'S' is the magic letter :-)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:57:13
    is it true lubed tactile/clicky switches have a lesser pronounced bump because of the lube?

    from what i've heard, lubing clickys and tactiles are a bad idea if you are looking for a bump
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 19 June 2013, 23:08:10
    As I understand it, the bump becomes more pronounced.  But if you over-lube, the click in the clicky switches diminishes or goes away altogether.  If you lube properly (proper locations) and in a tiny amount, the friction should diminish, but the bump and clicks should still remain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 19 June 2013, 23:31:43
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:57:13
    is it true lubed tactile/clicky switches have a lesser pronounced bump because of the lube?

    from what i've heard, lubing clickys and tactiles are a bad idea if you are looking for a bump

    It's not that the bump becomes less pronounced, it's that the actuation becomes smoother, so the bump can appear to diminish.  A good, but inaccurate, analogy would be sanding wood.  If you've ever sanded corners with a heavier grit, you notice that the sandpaper tends to catch and offer a little more resistance.  When you swap to a finer grit sandpaper or get a nice build up of sawdust in the heavier grit paper, there's less resistance on those corners.  The lube just makes the action easier. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 20 June 2013, 04:54:07
    How is that 'bar' attached to lz-gh? Can someone post some pics maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 June 2013, 06:30:21
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:57:13
    is it true lubed tactile/clicky switches have a lesser pronounced bump because of the lube?

    from what i've heard, lubing clickys and tactiles are a bad idea if you are looking for a bump

    I was under the impression that lubing clicky switches takes away from the click. From all my reading, I've never seen anyone with lubed Blues or Greens. And the Whites are lubed from the factory and aren't as clicky as Blues and Greens. I agree with nubbinator on tactile switches and lube.


    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 20 June 2013, 04:54:07
    How is that 'bar' attached to lz-gh? Can someone post some pics maybe?

    Maybe JD or Sifo will post pictures or answer? Some help me out ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 June 2013, 06:42:42
    Sorry, no pics of the LZ-GH yet, but the bar foot attaches with screws from the inside of the case. So you have to disassemble the case to remove the foot or change the angle.

    Why do you say that Ivan's "Cherry Replica Dyesub" group buys are not Cherry font, or somehow lasered and not dyesubbed? Both R1 (completed) and R2 (ongoing) are dyesubbed with Ivan's Cherry replica font.

    Now those G81-7000 keycaps, those are lasered PBT, not dyesub.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 June 2013, 06:50:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 June 2013, 06:42:42
    Why do you say that Ivan's "Cherry Replica Dyesub" group buys are not Cherry font, or somehow lasered and not dyesubbed? Both R1 (completed) and R2 (ongoing) are dyesubbed with Ivan's Cherry replica font.

    'Cause I was hella tired and confused my info. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:38:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 June 2013, 06:50:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 June 2013, 06:42:42
    Why do you say that Ivan's "Cherry Replica Dyesub" group buys are not Cherry font, or somehow lasered and not dyesubbed? Both R1 (completed) and R2 (ongoing) are dyesubbed with Ivan's Cherry replica font.

    'Cause I was hella tired and confused my info. :(

    Well maybe if you went to bed instead of up on geekhack at 10:30 at night then you might not be so tired.  lol jk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:39:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:38:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 June 2013, 06:50:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 June 2013, 06:42:42
    Why do you say that Ivan's "Cherry Replica Dyesub" group buys are not Cherry font, or somehow lasered and not dyesubbed? Both R1 (completed) and R2 (ongoing) are dyesubbed with Ivan's Cherry replica font.

    'Cause I was hella tired and confused my info. :(

    Well maybe if you went to bed instead of up on geekhack at 10:30 at night then you might not be so tired.  lol jk


    Captain is always ready, always waiting......to make moves!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:40:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:38:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 June 2013, 06:50:29
    'Cause I was hella tired and confused my info. :(

    Well maybe if you went to bed instead of up on geekhack at 10:30 at night then you might not be so tired.  lol jk

    Why does Melvang think he can be my mommy and set a bed time for me? :P JK!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:41:58
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:38:51
    Well maybe if you went to bed instead of up on geekhack at 10:30 at night then you might not be so tired.  lol jk
    10:30? Lightweight! :))
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 June 2013, 22:00:09
    You can try getting actual Cherry PBT caps. I just got a set for the cost of shipping from a G81-7000. There is also a GB going on now for BSP caps. The company BSP bought the Cherry PBT molds, much like how GMK bought the ABS molds, and is making new Cherry PBT caps. You can also try getting in on Ivan's PBT R2 GB, but these won't be Cherry color or font. Finally, you can try scoring a good deal on Imsto's R1 PBT caps, which are Cherry replica in profile, but again, not color or font.
    BSP didn't buy the Cherry moulds. They are the original owners of the Cherry PBT moulds and made all of Cherry's PBT caps (the dyesubs anyway). GMK on the other hand did buy Cherry's moulds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:47:32
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:41:58
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:38:51
    Well maybe if you went to bed instead of up on geekhack at 10:30 at night then you might not be so tired.  lol jk
    10:30? Lightweight!

    First off, it was 2330. Second off, some of us work a day job too. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 20 June 2013, 07:57:57
    It's all good Cpt.  When I was in the Navy I only slept about every other night.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 June 2013, 08:11:21
    Is usps.com down for anyone besides me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 20 June 2013, 08:12:28
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 20 June 2013, 08:11:21
    Is usps.com down for anyone besides me?
    Working fine for me but... http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/usps.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 June 2013, 08:20:15
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 20 June 2013, 08:12:28
    Quote from: ray4jc on Thu, 20 June 2013, 08:11:21
    Is usps.com down for anyone besides me?
    Working fine for me but... http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/usps.com

    I forgot about that website thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 20 June 2013, 10:40:43
    are wasd keyboards keycaps thin or thick abs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 20 June 2013, 10:41:28
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 20 June 2013, 10:40:43
    are wasd keyboards keycaps thin or thick abs?
    Thin.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 20 June 2013, 10:51:30
    SP keycaps are thick then right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 20 June 2013, 10:54:18
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 20 June 2013, 10:51:30
    SP keycaps are thick then right?
    Their regular caps are thin. Their retro DSA etc are a bit thicker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 20 June 2013, 18:38:00
    **** son! I made lots of sweat, blood, tears, probably other various bodily fluids making my Cherry replica legends the best I could... not Cherry font, well it's true but they are really close, like 96%. Sure BSP has the 'original' dyesubs, but if you need 1.25 modifiers, center stem fulltouch caps locks, spacebars.... well you are ****ed cause they don't have them. Also my groupbuy PBT dyesubs sets are nearly 50% less than BSP sets from sherryton/originative and just as good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Fri, 21 June 2013, 04:37:14
    How well would this controller work as a keyboard controller?
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATMEGA32U4-Nano-Pro-Mini-Board-Leonardo-Bootloader-Ready-For-Arduino-IDE-1-0-4-/121117128746?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1c3324b82a
    I'm maybe going to use it for my project.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 21 June 2013, 05:14:31
    I can't speak for the entire board as I have not delved that far into the tech side of this hobby/bank account draining curse, but the ATMEGA32U4 is the same controller chip that is found in the Teensy 2.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Fri, 21 June 2013, 05:50:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 21 June 2013, 05:14:31
    I can't speak for the entire board as I have not delved that far into the tech side of this hobby/bank account draining curse, but the ATMEGA32U4 is the same controller chip that is found in the Teensy 2.0
    Yeah, I know that. I would use teensy but I want to mount the controller on plate so I need mounting holes...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 June 2013, 06:33:26
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 20 June 2013, 18:38:00
    **** son! I made lots of sweat, blood, tears, probably other various bodily fluids making my Cherry replica legends the best I could... not Cherry font, well it's true but they are really close, like 96%. Sure BSP has the 'original' dyesubs, but if you need 1.25 modifiers, center stem fulltouch caps locks, spacebars.... well you are ****ed cause they don't have them. Also my groupbuy PBT dyesubs sets are nearly 50% less than BSP sets from sherryton/originative and just as good.

    I didn't mean to insult your work bro, I just didn't like how the R1 legends turned out. Please don't hurt me!  :-*

    /me hides behind a couch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:27:52
    What are 7-bit legends?  Is it some size designation?  I don't suppose it could be related to username 7bit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:29:28
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:27:52
    What are 7-bit legends?  Is it some size designation?  I don't suppose it could be related to username 7bit?

    You're correct, they're legends that 7bit came up with. Sort of like how Ivan made those Cherry replica fonts for the Imsto sets. I *think* they're the legend sets that have super/meta in them from Round 3 and Round 4 Dolch Replica.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:35:37
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44481.0

    These are called "7-bit" (spelled properly), and there are no Super and Meta keys.  Just wondering what that's about.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:37:05
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:35:37
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44481.0

    These are called "7-bit" (spelled properly), and there are no Super and Meta keys.  Just wondering what that's about.

    Ooo. Forgive me, it's early. It's the symbols on the modifiers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:41:19
    Quote from: llovro on Fri, 21 June 2013, 05:50:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 21 June 2013, 05:14:31
    I can't speak for the entire board as I have not delved that far into the tech side of this hobby/bank account draining curse, but the ATMEGA32U4 is the same controller chip that is found in the Teensy 2.0
    Yeah, I know that. I would use teensy but I want to mount the controller on plate so I need mounting holes...

    It will work... but Leonardo bootloader is what I don't want to work with the most. I mean it is suck.
    I don't recommend it unless you can replace it with new bootloader yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:50:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:37:05
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:35:37
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44481.0

    These are called "7-bit" (spelled properly), and there are no Super and Meta keys.  Just wondering what that's about.

    Ooo. Forgive me, it's early. It's the symbols on the modifiers.

    Yes, it's the symbol-only modifiers. And the spelling should be "7bit" to correspond with his username.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:56:25
    Thanks for the clarification!

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 June 2013, 08:50:19
    Yes, it's the symbol-only modifiers. And the spelling should be "7bit" to correspond with his username.

    Yes, this added to the confusion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sat, 22 June 2013, 13:09:44
    Does usb-ps2 adapter for mouse(it has a mouse icon on it) works for keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 June 2013, 13:10:57
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 22 June 2013, 13:09:44
    Does usb-ps2 adapter for mouse(it has a mouse icon on it) works for keyboard?

    If everything plugs in fine then it should. I don't see why it wouldn't. Test it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 22 June 2013, 13:25:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 June 2013, 13:10:57
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 22 June 2013, 13:09:44
    Does usb-ps2 adapter for mouse(it has a mouse icon on it) works for keyboard?

    If everything plugs in fine then it should. I don't see why it wouldn't. Test it?

    they work fine. this is one of ripster's reddit wiki science fact things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 22 June 2013, 13:48:45
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 22 June 2013, 13:09:44
    Does usb-ps2 adapter for mouse(it has a mouse icon on it) works for keyboard?

    Yeah, it does. I've tested it. Don't sweat it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:44:22
    Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time. Granted my plate allows for removable switch tops, but I opened up at least three switches on my Poker when pulling off six caps and I don't like it :(

    Edit - I need to know before my purple GMK mods arrive lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:46:39
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:44:22
    Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!

    Are you asking a serious question or are you continuing your campaign of bashing ABS caps? I've never had an issue taking them off my boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:47:56
    I'm serious and I'm okay with ABS mods :)

    Edit - It's totally cool, but I'm surprised you thought I might be joking seeing as I bought GMK goods :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:50:04
    I've been using the Olivetti GMK caps on my Leopold and have never had an issue removing the caps. I guess you could try the method you suggested but I've never encountered the problem that you suggested. Maybe someone else has had this issue and can suggest a solution?

    Edit: I didn't want to assume. Maybe you're just a great person and wanted to help out with the MOQ. If you took that the wrong way then I apologize but I can't tell if people are being serious or not sometimes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:56:04
    Where did my wire key cap puller disappear to?  It up and walked away on me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:56:48
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:56:04
    Where did my wire key cap puller disappear to?

    I stole it! I didn't want you doing all these sweet keyboard mods. You're too cool and I wanted to take you down a peg. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:59:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:50:04
    I've been using the Olivetti GMK caps on my Leopold and have never had an issue removing the caps. I guess you could try the method you suggested but I've never encountered the problem that you suggested. Maybe someone else has had this issue and can suggest a solution?

    Edit: I didn't want to assume. Maybe you're just a great person and wanted to help out with the MOQ. If you took that the wrong way then I apologize but I can't tell if people are being serious or not sometimes.

    Lol it's cool!!! Anyway, I know for a fact that cherry ABS doubleshots are tighter than thick PBT. I guess I'll wait until someone else sees my post :)

    PS - Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:59:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:56:48
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:56:04
    Where did my wire key cap puller disappear to?

    I stole it! I didn't want you doing all these sweet keyboard mods. You're too cool and I wanted to take you down a peg. :P

    (http://i.imgur.com/N0Z1UrR.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:11:11
    Stop using glue when fitting them keycaps, and they are not hard to take back off :p
    New keycaps are often just tight, but that's a good thing. Better than them flying off when typing because they are too loose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:15:25
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:11:11
    Stop using glue when fitting them keycaps, and they are not hard to take back off :p
    New keycaps are often just tight, but that's a good thing. Better than them flying off when typing because they are too loose.

    lol I agree with you about it being a good thing. It's less that they're difficult to remove and more that they're pulling my switch tops off when I pull of the caps (I'm very patient and gentle when doing this). I guess I'll have to keep the purple mods on forever, thanks :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:18:56
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:11:11
    Better than them flying off when typing because they are too loose.

    I made a video of this a while back

    https://vine.co/v/b9LxtemdmQF
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:20:04
    Quote from: kmiller8 on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:18:56
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:11:11
    Better than them flying off when typing because they are too loose.

    I made a video of this a while back

    https://vine.co/v/b9LxtemdmQF

    lol holy ****!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:27:40
    Quote from: kmiller8 on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:18:56
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:11:11
    Better than them flying off when typing because they are too loose.

    I made a video of this a while back

    https://vine.co/v/b9LxtemdmQF
    You have a weird typing style.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:54:21
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:44:22
    Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time. Granted my plate allows for removable switch tops, but I opened up at least three switches on my Poker when pulling off six caps and I don't like it :(

    Edit - I need to know before my purple GMK mods arrive lol

    I have noticed that caps seem to hold to the stem a lot firmer to my clear stems than any other stems I have.  Which would be blues, browns, and reds.  But I noticed this with both ABS and PBT caps.  But I haven't pulled any switch housings apart and my clears are PCB mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:56:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 22 June 2013, 17:54:21
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:44:22
    Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time. Granted my plate allows for removable switch tops, but I opened up at least three switches on my Poker when pulling off six caps and I don't like it :(

    Edit - I need to know before my purple GMK mods arrive lol

    I have noticed that caps seem to hold to the stem a lot firmer to my clear stems than any other stems I have.  Which would be blues, browns, and reds.  But I noticed this with both ABS and PBT caps.  But I haven't pulled any switch housings apart and my clears are PCB mount.

    Incredible! I'm using Ergo Clears, so that probably explains why not too many others understand what I'm talking about. Anyway, this totally makes sense. Thank You :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 18:49:56
    Clears have some funny indent in the stem that seems to act as a locking latch. Now that you mention it I do remember having a terrible time pulling the caps off of the WEY EK2000 I got. I am sure the caps had never been removed ever from it before me. I think I even pulled a few whole switches out of the PCB on that one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 19:50:25
    Uh-oh, I've got some brand new Clears coming in soon--will have to investigate!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 19:53:31
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 19:50:25
    Uh-oh, I've got some brand new Clears coming in soon--will have to investigate!

    This only happens with brand new cherry ABS doubleshots. Thick PBT can sometimes cause one side to pop out, but I've never had the whole switch top pull off like this with any other kind of keycap including used cherry ABS doubleshots.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 20:23:35
    Thank you--good thing I'm going for R2 dye sub PBT sets then!
    ----
    Regarding using a keyboard with a plate without the top cover (namely, a Filco)--I can't quite tell if the plate is electrically insulated and could be touched while the keyboard is plugged in without the risk of shocking anything in the controller or such.  That is for testing the keyboard after I swap LEDs or change switches without putting the top back on but still plugging it in through USB.  Could anyone clarify, please?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 22 June 2013, 20:33:20
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 20:23:35
    Thank you--good thing I'm going for R2 dye sub PBT sets then!
    ----
    Regarding using a keyboard with a plate without the top cover (namely, a Filco)--I can't quite tell if the plate is electrically insulated and could be touched while the keyboard is plugged in without the risk of shocking anything in the controller or such.  That is for testing the keyboard after I swap LEDs or change switches without putting the top back on but still plugging it in through USB.  Could anyone clarify, please?

    Should be a non issue.  If you have any sort of electrical contact with the plate than you have bigger issues
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 June 2013, 07:53:15
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sat, 22 June 2013, 20:23:35
    Thank you--good thing I'm going for R2 dye sub PBT sets then!
    ----
    Regarding using a keyboard with a plate without the top cover (namely, a Filco)--I can't quite tell if the plate is electrically insulated and could be touched while the keyboard is plugged in without the risk of shocking anything in the controller or such.  That is for testing the keyboard after I swap LEDs or change switches without putting the top back on but still plugging it in through USB.  Could anyone clarify, please?
    Isn't the controller of a Filco sat between the top cover and the plate? That's how it is in WhiteFireDragon's Ergo Clear Mod video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_2GxeR4Es), see 6:30.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 23 June 2013, 12:29:06
    The controller is on the PCB, not on the plate.  It does not really touch the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 June 2013, 12:45:00
    Yes I know but wouldn't that stay out in the open then? That doesn't seem safe to me, but maybe I'm a bit oversensitive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 23 June 2013, 12:46:51
    You can touch the plate of a Filco. You can even touch the controller while it's plugged in. I used a filco without a top cover for a while and quite often accidentally touched the controller and plate. Nothing happened.

    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 18:49:56
    Clears have some funny indent in the stem that seems to act as a locking latch. Now that you mention it I do remember having a terrible time pulling the caps off of the WEY EK2000 I got. I am sure the caps had never been removed ever from it before me. I think I even pulled a few whole switches out of the PCB on that one.

    Do you mean like this? Sorry for the grainy photo.

    (http://i.imgur.com/UlkBplS.png)

    Every colour switch I have has an indent like this : white, blue, red and dark grey as pictured.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tns on Mon, 24 June 2013, 00:26:00
    About RealForce

    I saw on a sign :
    Quote
    Realforce 87u all-30g
    edit : I got it... it's a custom ;o
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40545.msg805160#msg805160

    but I read on Deskthority
    Quote
    The 89 is unique among the tenkeyless Realforce models in that it is the only keyboard that comes in uniform 30 grams weighting.

    Are they both same kind of?

    Also I don't even see that kind of 87U on Deskthority wiki :s

    edit : ok i got it it's a custom :o
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tns on Mon, 24 June 2013, 01:10:09
    where to find all TopreReal forces diagram schemes?
    edit : layout weight
    like this one
    (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/khaangaaroo/87u_weighting.jpg)

    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/7/7d/Topre87_layout_th0x0.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/X6g6Y.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: khaangaaroo on Mon, 24 June 2013, 01:52:33
    Here's a force diagram from overclock.net. Not sure who made it or how accurate it is though.
    (http://cdn.overclock.net/7/77/900x900px-LL-77b5b81e_47c8a19470bee5776d40b14c142ca20d.jpeg)

    On the Deskthority wiki, you can click on the "Key Weight" column to sort by weighting.
    (http://i.imgur.com/sPnoyxM.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/NlJ2doM.jpg)

    The 89S is the only TKL with all-30g and only comes in JIS layout. I took the domes and put them into a 87U Silent. There is no manufactured 87U with all-30g.
    There are several full-sized all-30g keyboards, but only the 104 Pro is ANSI. The 108UDK seems to be the cheapest to buy as a donor board for 30g domes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: khaangaaroo on Mon, 24 June 2013, 02:22:43
    Quote from: tns on Mon, 24 June 2013, 01:10:09
    where to find all TopreReal forces diagram schemes?
    edit : layout weight
    like this one
    Show Image
    (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/khaangaaroo/87u_weighting.jpg)


    That was the weighting for one of the custom Realforces I made. I colored the diagram based on where I put the domes.

    All the variable weighted 87U's that I have taken apart originally had something similar to this:
    (http://i.imgur.com/X6g6Y.jpg)

    Sometimes 30g was used instead of 35g. I also received a JIS board that had the '2wsx' keys feel like 45g instead of 40g. So there were variations in how the variable force Realforces were weighted based on the model. There's no resource that provides weight layout diagrams for all of them. Many of the ones you see online were measured by 002 or estimated by me comparing the domes to one another. See thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44067.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Mon, 24 June 2013, 02:30:46
    I concur on the clear stems thing.

    I used the same caps on several keyboards before, and the clear switches are the ones that seem impossibly tight. Pulled the top housing off a couple of times (probably didn't help that the latches are probably looser from having opened them several times), but I'm pretty sure there's something going on with the clear stems thats not happening the other switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Mon, 24 June 2013, 02:35:06
    I have 5 Clear boards (all plate mounted), and have never had any problems...  Strange.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 24 June 2013, 02:35:58
    When I did my ergo-clear mod, the clears I got were super tight compared to any other switch/stem I've used
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Mon, 24 June 2013, 02:39:46
    Perhaps it depends on where the switches originate from, or how old they are...  Different batches from different years may vary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 June 2013, 08:02:55
    Hate to do this but can we migrate the stem fit discussion to a separate post? I'm afraid it's getting lost in this thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Mon, 24 June 2013, 08:29:20
    OK by me...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 24 June 2013, 08:57:27
    Need a little help with some nomenclature.  What exactly would be the component that I would need to control the brightness of LED's via a knob?  Also any suggestions on values that i would need for controlling one of these (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18491/lit-346/Akust_USB_Powered_18_Count_LED_Strip_-_Blue_ZO04-0001-AKS.html?tl=g6c77s1875).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 June 2013, 08:59:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 24 June 2013, 08:57:27
    Need a little help with some nomenclature.  What exactly would be the component that I would need to control the brightness of LED's via a knob?

    Potentiometer. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 June 2013, 09:01:32
    Dorkvader and I were messing with LED brightness on his KMAC last night. Well...mostly Dorkvader. Anyways, I *think* you just need a resistor that can carry the max voltage/amperage. But the catch is Dorkvader was doing the control through the software and not a knob.

    Edit: I didn't see jdcarpe's post above mine. You should probably go with his info over mine but I'll leave my text up just in case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 24 June 2013, 11:32:24
    Alright thanks guys.  Any idea if an old volume control from a 40 year old Fisher receiver might work?  Not sure if that works off the same internals or not but after I can get it pulled apart what numbers would I be looking for on a multi-meter?

    Edit:  Ok, I got the volume control out of the receiver and the numbers on the side of it are as follows
    200140-(oriental symbol of some fashion)100KΩW and down on the side it says (another oriental symbol)50KΩAX2  Now this particular piece does have volume and balance in the same unit with the balance being on the collar and volume as the stem
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:39:31
    Where can I get two costar stabilizer? I mean the white "stem", I have the wire.

    Particularly for spacebar if that's needed for some reason.

    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:40:39
    Quote from: linziyi on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:39:31
    Where can I get two costar stabilizer? I mean the white "stem", I have the wire.

    Particularly for spacebar if that's needed for some reason.

    Thanks in advance!
    wasdkeyboards.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:41:58
    Thank you very much!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:42:25
    Quote from: linziyi on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:41:58
    Thank you very much!!

    It's also in the OP...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:43:23
    ...Unfortunately the shipping is 10 times the actual product... so maybe I should get it from some other key on the keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:57:07
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:44:22
    Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time.

    I know this was on the last page, but since there were mentions of it, I thought I'd comment. Modern clear switch stems are much tighter on any caps, so it's a lot harder to pull the off.

    Now most people do not know this, but SP PBT caps are the tighest caps for any stems. If you combine that with new clear switches... it's over, you're never getting them off (assuming you can even get them on in the first place).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:59:50
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:57:07
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:44:22
    Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time.

    I know this was on the last page, but since there were mentions of it, I thought I'd comment. Modern clear switch stems are much tighter on any caps, so it's a lot harder to pull the off.

    Now most people do not know this, but SP PBT caps are the tighest caps for any stems. If you combine that with new clear switches... it's over, you're never getting them off (assuming you can even get them on in the first place).

    Thanks for your input, and OMG that's scary!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 24 June 2013, 16:04:58
    I'm referring to PBT specifically from SP, and modern clear stems. Any other PBT caps or stems would be fine though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 24 June 2013, 18:35:48
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:59:50
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:57:07
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:44:22
    Why are Cherry ABS caps so difficult to pull off?!?!?! I know, I know, that's just how they are, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to put them on some spare switches a few times to loosen them up or if this would be a waste of time.

    I know this was on the last page, but since there were mentions of it, I thought I'd comment. Modern clear switch stems are much tighter on any caps, so it's a lot harder to pull the off.

    Now most people do not know this, but SP PBT caps are the tighest caps for any stems. If you combine that with new clear switches... it's over, you're never getting them off (assuming you can even get them on in the first place).

    Thanks for your input, and OMG that's scary!!!


    I put my nyan set (a sp pbt set) on my nearly new clear springs. I think I mounted on a cherry set before the nyan but other than that, none. They weren't that bad for me to pull off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 24 June 2013, 20:54:47
    MX Clear.  Looked the same as an MX Black switch I compared it to.  But perhaps the cross part was a tad thicker itself vs. the one on MX Black.

    (http://i.imgur.com/piviYWs.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/grSXpzE.jpg)

    (I can put these into a separate thread).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 June 2013, 20:56:43
    Please please please move this discussion to a separate thread. This discussion will get lost in a week or two.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 24 June 2013, 20:59:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 June 2013, 20:56:43
    Please please please move this discussion to a separate thread. This discussion will get lost in a week or two.

    Ehhhh it's right here lol - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37620.0

    Number one hit for "site:geekhack.org tight clear" and sorry for not searching for this before :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 June 2013, 21:02:57
    It's fine Sisbot, but that thread doesn't have lovely pictures or anything. It'd be a shame to have info buried in here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 24 June 2013, 21:04:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 June 2013, 21:02:57
    It's fine Sisbot, but that thread doesn't have lovely pictures or anything. It'd be a shame to have info buried in here.

    I'm actually kind of embarrassed that this applies to the only switch that I love lol. I'll put a detailed thread together if someone else doesn't within a few days, promise :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 June 2013, 21:08:02
    Quote from: Jocelyn on Mon, 24 June 2013, 21:04:59
    I'm actually kind of embarrassed that this applies to the only switch that I love lol. I'll put a detailed thread together if someone else doesn't within a few days, promise :)

    If you do that, please let me know. I'll link all the replies from here over to your thread. ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 24 June 2013, 21:57:23
    This whole issue with Clears is kind of interesting and doesn't really make sense to me.  I just took some calipers to Clears and found them to be the same size on their x and y axes (axis label
    More
    (http://i.imgur.com/eXJdbue.jpg)
    ) as Browns, Reds, and Blacks, or at least close enough that it shouldn't make a difference.  That said, I did notice that the Clears and Blacks were a little thicker on the bottom half of the y axis than the top (bottom half on the y axis, not the z axis), a little thicker than the y-axis on Reds and Browns.  So, logically, if caps seem to fit tighter, it can't be because they're a little bigger.  If that were the case, that problem should also befall Black switches, but it seems it doesn't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: therecorder on Mon, 24 June 2013, 22:03:59
    Perhaps it's the finish/composition of the Clear stems that is different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 24 June 2013, 22:04:24
    Continuing the MX Clear stem discussion here. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45122.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 June 2013, 22:07:28
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 24 June 2013, 22:04:24
    Continuing the MX Clear stem discussion here. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45122.0)

    Thank you. Please refer to that thread to continue the discussion guys. I just don't want this to be lost in 2-3 weeks when there's another 5 pages of questions to wade through.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 24 June 2013, 22:33:05
    Any ideas on at least a ballpark range of numbers for ohm values in a used potentiometer to be used as a dimmer for a USB powered LED strip?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:47:57
    Are these similar to the MX green spring? And if I buy them how many do they come for $8?

    https://www.originativeco.com/80g-springs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:53:55
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:47:57
    Are these similar to the MX green spring? And if I buy them how many do they come for $8?

    https://www.originativeco.com/80g-springs
    They will be quite a lot lighter. They aren't as heavy as clear springs and clear springs are about 3/4 as heavy as green springs. You get 100 iirc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:54:23
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:47:57
    Are these similar to the MX green spring? And if I buy them how many do they come for $8?

    https://www.originativeco.com/80g-springs

    I think they're heavier than the MX Black springs but lighter than the MX Green springs. All of the Custom Spring seem to be between the stock switch actuation forces.

    You get 100 springs.

    Edit: Photekq sniped me and I think he's got the better info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:56:50
    :O so clear switches have even heavier spring? I thought they have 65g peak force?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:04:48
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:56:50
    :O so clear switches have even heavier spring? I thought they have 65g peak force?

    The bottom out force on Clears is supposedly really heavy. I forgot how heavy, the DT wiki or Cherry should have it. I'd recommend you just wait until the tour comes or getting your hands on some springs and testing them for yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:17:00
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:56:50
    :O so clear switches have even heavier spring? I thought they have 65g peak force?
    Korean springs are measured at bottom out force while Cherry springs are measured at actuation. There's a thread about this somewhere but I can never remember the name.

    Basically a 60g-ish korean spring = same as springs in blues, reds, browns. If there were a 100g korean spring then it'd be about the same as a clear spring. Clears are 55g and greens are 80g so you'd be looking at a korean spring that's quite a lot over 100g (which doesn't exist).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:24:02
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:17:00
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:56:50
    :O so clear switches have even heavier spring? I thought they have 65g peak force?
    Korean springs are measured at bottom out force while Cherry springs are measured at actuation. There's a thread about this somewhere but I can never remember the name.

    Basically a 60g-ish korean spring = same as springs in blues, reds, browns. If there were a 100g korean spring then it'd be about the same as a clear spring. Clears are 55g and greens are 80g so you'd be looking at a korean spring that's quite a lot over 100g (which doesn't exist).

    So the clear switches actually have a bottom out force same as green switches (100g I think)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:25:18
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:24:02
    So the clear switches actually have a bottom out force same as green switches (100g I think)?

    No. They felt different to me when I tried them recently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:26:47
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:24:02

    So the clear switches actually have a bottom out force same as green switches (100g I think)?
    No.

    Clear springs : Actuation = 55g, bottom out = around 100g.
    Green springs : Actuation = 80g, bottom out = I don't know exactly but I know it'll be higher than 100g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:27:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:04:48
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:56:50
    :O so clear switches have even heavier spring? I thought they have 65g peak force?

    The bottom out force on Clears is supposedly really heavy. I forgot how heavy, the DT wiki or Cherry should have it. I'd recommend you just wait until the tour comes or getting your hands on some springs and testing them for yourself.

    I would be looking forward to the tour! But the ergodox groupbuy has but 5 days left, so I need to decide around now :S
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:28:42
    What would happen if you put green springs in clears witches?


    And does anyone know if SmallFry is ever coming back? It's not the same around here without him. ;(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:31:21
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:27:23
    I would be looking forward to the tour! But the ergodox groupbuy has but 5 days left, so I need to decide around now :S

    It's not like you'll be getting the parts anytime soon...does the buy even have those switches available? You can always order a switch you do like and then find other switches later. You have to assemble it anyways so I don't understand the rush.

    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:28:42
    1) What would happen if you put green springs in clears witches?

    2) And does anyone know if SmallFry is ever coming back? It's not the same around here without him. ;(

    1) Try it? I can test this when I get Clear springs. Should be coming soon.
    2) I tried contacting him but he hasn't gotten back to me.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:31:59
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:28:42
    What would happen if you put green springs in clears witches?


    And does anyone know if SmallFry is ever coming back? It's not the same around here without him. ;(
    You'd get greys!

    Greens = blues with 80g spring
    Greys = clears with 80g spring
    Dark greys  = reds/blacks with 80g spring
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:36:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:31:21
    It's not like you'll be getting the parts anytime soon...does the buy even have those switches available? You can always order a switch you do like and then find other switches later. You have to assemble it anyways so I don't understand the rush.

    Hmm.. I will just wait until next round I think, need to get to know about more switches before my decision.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Meijiera on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:02:14
    Hey I wanted to know if i could put orings or should i put orings on pbt thick caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:30:53
    Quote from: Meijiera on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:02:14
    Hey I wanted to know if i could put orings or should i put orings on pbt thick caps?

    Can you? Yes. Should you? I don't know. It's a personal preference thing. You can read my thoughts on them if you look in my signature. I'm pretty sure the imsto caps have the proper supports underneath it. I don't know about other Thick PBT caps.

    FWIW, I didn't use o-rings on my boards. I had soft-landing pads on my Leopold that I've since removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:34:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:30:53
    Quote from: Meijiera on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:02:14
    Hey I wanted to know if i could put orings or should i put orings on pbt thick caps?

    Can you? Yes. Should you? I don't know. It's a personal preference thing. You can read my thoughts on them if you look in my signature. I'm pretty sure the imsto caps have the proper supports underneath it. I don't know about other Thick PBT caps.

    FWIW, I didn't use o-rings on my boards. I had soft-landing pads on my Leopold that I've since removed.

    Are those landing pads reusable? Are they sticky? I haven't handled any yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:42:24
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:34:51
    Are those landing pads reusable? Are they sticky? I haven't handled any yet.

    Yes they're reusable. They're not sticky. I had a set in my Leopold for 5 months and they held up fine. Soft like the 40A o-rings but with less travel reduction.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:59:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:42:24
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:34:51
    Are those landing pads reusable? Are they sticky? I haven't handled any yet.

    Yes they're reusable. They're not sticky. I had a set in my Leopold for 5 months and they held up fine. Soft like the 40A o-rings but with less travel reduction.

    I don't know why I had it in my mind that they were like a cross between switch stickers and o-rings. ;)

    Thanks for the info!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 25 June 2013, 13:18:40
    Does anyone know the part number for PCB mounted Costar or Cherry stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 15:58:06
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 25 June 2013, 13:18:40
    Does anyone know the part number for PCB mounted Costar or Cherry stabilizers?

    There is no such thing as "PCB Mounted" Costar stabilizers. All Costar stabilizers attach to the plate.

    Cherry "Plate Mounted" stabilizers are parts: G99-0224 (1x2, 1x2.25, 1x2.75), G99-0379 (1x7), and G99-0226 (1x8, 1x9, 1x10).

    These Cherry part numbers are "without frame," and I'm not sure if that means "PCB Mounted" or what: G99-0742 (1x2, 1x2.25, 1x2.75), G99-0745 (1x7), and G99-0744 (1x8, 1x9, 1x10).

    This is the link from Cherry: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:49:08
    Say you put switches in a plate to swap springs and play around with what springs make what switch feel like whatever, how do you go about getting the switches back out of the plate??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:52:47
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:49:08
    Say you put switches in a plate to swap springs and play around with what springs make what switch feel like whatever, how do you go about getting the switches back out of the plate??

    You push them out from the back?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:54:14
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:52:47
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:49:08
    Say you put switches in a plate to swap springs and play around with what springs make what switch feel like whatever, how do you go about getting the switches back out of the plate??

    You push them out from the back?

    I didn't know if there was a technique to it or if it was just brute force?  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:57:00
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:54:14
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:52:47
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:49:08
    Say you put switches in a plate to swap springs and play around with what springs make what switch feel like whatever, how do you go about getting the switches back out of the plate??

    You push them out from the back?

    I didn't know if there was a technique to it or if it was just brute force?  :-[

    I use thumbs. Sometimes a screwdriver if my thumbs hurt. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:59:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:57:00
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:54:14
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:52:47
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:49:08
    Say you put switches in a plate to swap springs and play around with what springs make what switch feel like whatever, how do you go about getting the switches back out of the plate??

    You push them out from the back?

    I didn't know if there was a technique to it or if it was just brute force?  :-[

    I use thumbs. Sometimes a screwdriver if my thumbs hurt. :P

    Perhaps it's time for me to get some of those sweet fitted mechanics gloves!

    thanks for the info jd!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 17:08:28
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:54:14
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:52:47
    Quote from: ray4jc on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:49:08
    Say you put switches in a plate to swap springs and play around with what springs make what switch feel like whatever, how do you go about getting the switches back out of the plate??

    You push them out from the back?

    I didn't know if there was a technique to it or if it was just brute force?  :-[

    1) Take hands
    2) Place on back of switch
    3) Push
    4) Repeat a lot
    5) Use a screwdriver if you're a man and you has the pain or Vulcan mind powers if you're JD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Thimplum on Tue, 25 June 2013, 18:28:33
    How DARE you link to Deskthority! :^)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 25 June 2013, 20:24:41
    Could anyone point me to a discussion on various Korean springs, please?  I'm looking for some differences/similarities between various 55g springs on this image Jocelyn posted

    (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/10/a5eqytej.jpg)

    There are 3 different 55g springs.  And also 2 different 62g springs (which ones does Originative stock  Are the Originative 45g springs 45g or 45(50)g?)  Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 June 2013, 20:30:05
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 25 June 2013, 20:24:41
    Could anyone point me to a discussion on various Korean springs, please?  I'm looking for some differences/similarities between various 55g springs on this image Jocelyn posted

    Show Image
    (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/10/a5eqytej.jpg)


    There are 3 different 55g springs.  And also 2 different 62g springs (which ones does Originative stock  Are the Originative 45g springs 45g or 45(50)g?)  Thanks!

    I think it was in sherry's originative thread but he deleted it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 25 June 2013, 20:32:53
    No other discussion for those? That's surprising, considering how many people use these springs for various mods.  I'll PM Sherry about that thread though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 June 2013, 20:35:01
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 25 June 2013, 20:32:53
    No other discussion for those? That's surprising, considering how many people use these springs for various mods.  I'll PM Sherry about that thread though.

    Captain will chime in he knows ALL!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 20:45:51
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 25 June 2013, 20:24:41
    Could anyone point me to a discussion on various Korean springs, please?  I'm looking for some differences/similarities between various 55g springs on this image Jocelyn posted

    Show Image
    (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/10/a5eqytej.jpg)


    There are 3 different 55g springs.  And also 2 different 62g springs (which ones does Originative stock  Are the Originative 45g springs 45g or 45(50)g?)  Thanks!

    Not sure if there is one. There was a bit of a discussion in my review thread but I've never seen an active thread talking about Korean/Custom springs. There was a rumor that the Originative springs were ordered special for Sherry and that the weights were different from the ones you posted. But I cannot confirm or deny that. I too want Sherry to replace his thread about spring weights. I do know that the number of coils affects how the spring feels. But I haven't had the chance to play with enough springs to properly weigh in with my opinion.

    ....this was not a Simple Answer lmao.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:26:45
    Hey so I just did my first Ergo-Clear mod to a switch.  It doesn't even have a tactile bump anymore, is that what it is supposed to be like...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:28:36
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:26:45
    Hey so I just did my first Ergo-Clear mod to a switch.  It doesn't even have a tactile bump anymore, is that what it is supposed to be like...?

    No, there should still be a tactile bump.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:31:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:28:36
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:26:45
    Hey so I just did my first Ergo-Clear mod to a switch.  It doesn't even have a tactile bump anymore, is that what it is supposed to be like...?

    No, there should still be a tactile bump.
    Yeah I just did another one, ****ed the first up somehow XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:56:33
    Look in calavera's springs sale thread for the discussion on these. Sherry sells the ones from KBDMOD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:57:06
    Yo how can I break into someone's house and steal their pink 456 GT without them knowing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:59:30
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:56:33
    Look in calavera's springs sale thread for the discussion on these. Sherry sells the ones from KBDMOD.

    Seems like the relevant discussion begins here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40475.msg888519#msg888519) in calavera's Group Buy thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 25 June 2013, 22:00:40
    Quote from: Sifo on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:57:06
    Yo how can I break into someone's house and steal their pink 456 GT without them knowing?

    List an orange 456 GB on Craigslist, get in touch with them, tell them a place to meet...  put on your Pink Panther gloves, queue Pink Panther music, and head into their house :D
    -----

    Thank you, JD and CPT!  Found that one.  Just wish there were more detail on 55g spring differences.  And how the number of coils affects the rebound time, if at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 22:01:31
    Quote from: Sifo on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:57:06
    Yo how can I break into someone's house and steal their pink 456 GT without them knowing?

    Pose as a Kpop girl. Who doesn't trust a Kpop singer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 25 June 2013, 23:15:23
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:31:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:28:36
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 25 June 2013, 21:26:45
    Hey so I just did my first Ergo-Clear mod to a switch.  It doesn't even have a tactile bump anymore, is that what it is supposed to be like...?

    No, there should still be a tactile bump.
    Yeah I just did another one, ****ed the first up somehow XD

    Try it in a few different switch housing bottoms.  I noticed that my Clears sometimes get more tactile or less tactile depending on the stem and housing combination. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 26 June 2013, 00:14:39
    So i am using the black theme here on GH and sometimes it get white stripes at the top where my avatar is and what not but now the whole page is white.  Any ideas on what is happening here?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 26 June 2013, 00:36:38
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 26 June 2013, 00:14:39
    So i am using the black theme here on GH and sometimes it get white stripes at the top where my avatar is and what not but now the whole page is white.  Any ideas on what is happening here?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45171.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:16:30
    Does anyone know of a place that can make some lock light label replacement, exactly the type on G80 but with my own design on it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:25:04
    Why do people flip their space bars around?

    example:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:28:14
    Quote from: SeriouSSpotS on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:25:04
    Why do people flip their space bars around?

    example:


    Some find the normal 'edge' too sharp....you should try it....it's interesting ;)

    For the record I've only flipped my space bar in two unique instances, on my FC660C I had just to try it that way, and when using DSA retro caps and a imsto thick pbt spacebar, that actually worked really well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:29:17
    Quote from: SeriouSSpotS on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:25:04
    Why do people flip their space bars around?

    example:

    Some people can't be like Samuel Jackson and Bruce Willis all the time (by that I mean a bad-a**) and their thumbs start to hurt from hitting the space bar.  They say that flipping it makes it not hurt.  I've never had any issues with it, but some people say it cuts into their thumbs and flipping it stops that from happening.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:32:49
    Only communists flip their spacebars. Don't do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:33:25
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:32:49
    Only communists flip their spacebars. Don't do it.

    Don't judge me!!! I go both ways baby ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:35:57
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:29:17

    Some people can't be like Samuel Jackson and Bruce Willis all the time (by that I mean a bad-a**) and their thumbs start to hurt from hitting the space bar.  They say that flipping it makes it not hurt.  I've never had any issues with it, but some people say it cuts into their thumbs and flipping it stops that from happening.

    Ah I see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raKeto on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:48:44
    Whats the Befits of installing a Custom plate into Filco (or any Keyboard). Whats bad about the Stockplate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:50:33
    Quote from: raKeto on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:48:44
    Whats the Befits of installing a Custom plate into Filco (or any Keyboard). Whats bad about the Stockplate?
    Custom plate allows you to remove the top of the switches. This allows you to swap the springs & stems or lube the switch. On a stock plate you'd need to desolder the switch/es every time you want to swap anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:51:05
    Quote from: raKeto on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:48:44
    Whats the Befits of installing a Custom plate into Filco (or any Keyboard). Whats bad about the Stockplate?

    Many of the custom plates people use let you do things like pop the switch tops without desoldering.  It allows you more freedom to play and experiment and fine tune your switches without having to use PCB mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:51:43
    Quote from: raKeto on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:48:44
    Whats the Befits of installing a Custom plate into Filco (or any Keyboard). Whats bad about the Stockplate?

    Custom plates are often heavier than the stock plates so the keyboard feels heavier and more solid overall. You can also change the layout from the standard. For example, my keyboard is currently 1.25x ANSI but with a custom plate, I could get like HHKB or 1.5x ANSI for example.

    Edit: Photekq and nubbinator got that AWP out. So much sniping haha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raKeto on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:57:04
    wow that was quick  ;D

    If i would install a custom plate, do i need to make any adjustments or swap the Case aswell?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:59:22
    Quote from: raKeto on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:57:04
    If i would install a custom plate, do i need to make any adjustments or swap the Case aswell?

    Ideally you'd want to buy a plate to fit a case. For example, the Phantom plate will fit into a Filco case but it won't fit into a QFR case iirc. You have to open the board up, desolder the switches from the PCB, remove the stock plate if it has one, replace the switches onto the new plate, put the PCB back on, then resolder all the switches. It's not a quick mod if you're kinda new to the keyboard mod game like me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 26 June 2013, 17:23:30
    Quote from: raKeto on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:57:04
    wow that was quick  ;D

    If i would install a custom plate, do i need to make any adjustments or swap the Case aswell?
    For a filco you would need a 'universal tenkeyless plate' by WhiteFireDragon. Phantom plates wouldn't work due to the filco controller.

    I'm not sure whether WhiteFireDragon has any he could sell you. Your best bet would be putting up an ad in the classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:11:16
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 26 June 2013, 17:23:30
    Quote from: raKeto on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:57:04
    wow that was quick  ;D

    If i would install a custom plate, do i need to make any adjustments or swap the Case aswell?
    For a filco you would need a 'universal tenkeyless plate' by WhiteFireDragon. Phantom plates wouldn't work due to the filco controller.

    I'm not sure whether WhiteFireDragon has any he could sell you. Your best bet would be putting up an ad in the classifieds.

    He's currently running a round2 of those plates, now in steel and a bit more expensive.  Would ask him, but he said left overs will be sold after the GB is done.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:14:32
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:11:16
    He's currently running a round2 of those plates, now in steel

    What kind of steel? Stainless steel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:16:37
    I think so:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.msg926607#msg926607
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:28:38
    Hey guys, are old IBM electronical typewriters using buckling spring technology? (Model 6787)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:37:32
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:16:37
    I think so:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.msg926607#msg926607

    Yes they're stainless steel.

    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:28:38
    Hey guys, are old IBM electronical typewriters using buckling spring technology? (Model 6787)

    No, they use a complex electromechanical switch that aren't related to keyboard switches. Knowledge bomb brought to you by dfj :D


    Edit: Some more info on the Selectric Typewriter, again from dfj:

    <dfj> the selectric was awesome - the key would physically press a unique code onto a physical bar which was read electrically into a 6-bit value - this was the character to be pressed.
    <dfj> that electrical signal was decoded again to generate the coorodinates on the ball - but the actual strike and rotation of the ball was powered by a continuously rotating shaft.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 26 June 2013, 19:29:29
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:28:38
    Hey guys, are old IBM electronical typewriters using buckling spring technology? (Model 6787)

    I just took a Wheelwriter apart for the buckling spring caps and parts. One-piece keys with some odd legends.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Thu, 27 June 2013, 11:56:27
    What font do SP use, as in most commonly? (If this isnt a simple question I apologise)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 June 2013, 11:59:42
    Quote from: Tym on Thu, 27 June 2013, 11:56:27
    What font do SP use, as in most commonly?

    I think it's their replica of the WYSE font, but I'm totally guessing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:30:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 June 2013, 11:59:42
    Quote from: Tym on Thu, 27 June 2013, 11:56:27
    What font do SP use, as in most commonly?

    I think it's their replica of the WYSE font, but I'm totally guessing.
    WYSE didn't invent the font to my knowledge.  Pretty sure WYSE uses SP's font.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:41:59
    is there such thing as an adapter of some sort to put Cherrry stemmed caps on alps stitches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:43:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:41:59
    is there such thing as an adapter of some sort to put Cherrry stemmed caps on alps stitches?

    Mr. Interface on DT tried to make some with 3D printers. However, the plastic he chose was brittle and the adapters were prone to snapping. I've posted the same idea in mkawa's 3D printing thread. Hopefully he'll be able to work that into his project schedule.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:44:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:41:59
    is there such thing as an adapter of some sort to put Cherrry stemmed caps on alps stitches?

    http://deskthority.net/off-topic-f10/guess-the-project-t4809.html?hilit=cherry%20alps%20adapter (http://deskthority.net/off-topic-f10/guess-the-project-t4809.html?hilit=cherry%20alps%20adapter)

    There may be another thread but my search fu needs more twerking to not be so week. And ninja'd by captain..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:55:03
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:30:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 June 2013, 11:59:42
    Quote from: Tym on Thu, 27 June 2013, 11:56:27
    What font do SP use, as in most commonly?

    I think it's their replica of the WYSE font, but I'm totally guessing.
    WYSE didn't invent the font to my knowledge.  Pretty sure WYSE uses SP's font.

    Okay, I'd like to clear this up once and for all. Maybe this needs to go into a wiki or FAQ. I don't work for Signature Plastics, but I researched this and found this (http://solutionsinplastic.com/about_history.html) page on SP's web site.

    Quote
    History
    The history of Signature Plastics began in 1973 with a company named Comptec. Comptec began injection molding and quickly became a leading manufacturer of two-shot molded plastic parts for customers world wide servicing the computer, telecommunication, electronic, automotive, medical and consumer products markets.

    Signature Plastics was established in 2001 following a management buyout of assets and customer base of Comptec Inc. The products developed and technologies perfected during the formative Comptec years laid the foundation for Signature Plastics' continued success today resulting in over thirty years of plastic molding expertise.

    - Comptec created the WYSE font and made all the original keycaps for the WYSE keyboards you can still find in the marketplace.

    - Signature Plastics did not make the original WYSE keycaps. Comptec did. It appears the tooling they use now is newer tooling, and not the original tooling.

    - Signature Plastics's default legend font is the WYSE font they acquired from Comptec.



    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:59:06
    JD i can put it into the OP. Unless you really want a Wiki article.

    OP is fine. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:56:46
    Thanks jd!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 28 June 2013, 08:59:06
    JD i can put it into the OP. Unless you really want a Wiki article.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JPG on Fri, 28 June 2013, 19:10:26
    What are the differences between Vortex thick pbt from Feng's GB VS IMSTO thick pbt (feel, thickness, quality of dye, quality of color)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 28 June 2013, 19:32:10
    Quote from: JPG on Fri, 28 June 2013, 19:10:26
    What are the differences between Vortex thick pbt from Feng's GB VS IMSTO thick pbt (feel, thickness, quality of dye, quality of color)

    Can't help you with all of those points, but the font on the Vortex PBT is distinctly different: it's angular and slanted and smaller.  I think the white of Vortex PBT is also a lot more pure white vs. the off-white creamy color of IMSTO's white PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 June 2013, 00:02:34
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 28 June 2013, 19:32:10
    Quote from: JPG on Fri, 28 June 2013, 19:10:26
    What are the differences between Vortex thick pbt from Feng's GB VS IMSTO thick pbt (feel, thickness, quality of dye, quality of color)

    Can't help you with all of those points, but the font on the Vortex PBT is distinctly different: it's angular and slanted and smaller.  I think the white of Vortex PBT is also a lot more pure white vs. the off-white creamy color of IMSTO's white PBT.

    Imsto sells more colors than just white. I'm not sure what Vortex caps have in terms of colors. I never typed on thick PBT Vortex but I know that the thin PBT Vortex caps I have on my tester are pretty bad. They're pretty low quality and that font is horrible. It's like italic and spiky.

    I have Imsto caps but I'm not longer interested in them. They were from his R1 GB. Cherry profile, black on a nice sky blue. I thought the legends were horrible though. Ivan put a lot of time into them but I think the dyesub process or something was messed up because they were bad. Just blurry and not crisp at all. I also don't care for PBT because the texture throws me off. I prefer the smoothness of ABS to the coarse texture of PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 29 June 2013, 08:09:48
    Who is the master of cable sleeving on these forums?  I have some questions and don't want the general masses to know any of the details.  Just a couple select few that I am enlisting a bit of help from.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 June 2013, 08:32:28
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 29 June 2013, 08:09:48
    Who is the master of cable sleeving on these forums?  I have some questions and don't want the general masses to know any of the details.  Just a couple select few that I am enlisting a bit of help from.

    tjcaustin, nubbinator, TheFlyingRacooon, pexon, mistakemistake, Paranoid, and Whiskerbox are all people who sell or have made their own cables in various quantities. You can pick one of those members whom you like/trust to talk to about cable sleeving.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 29 June 2013, 08:56:32
    TJ #1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Sat, 29 June 2013, 10:44:20
    Is there any "custom spring" that have a force more than 80g (like 100g, 120g) on sale?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 June 2013, 10:44:43
    Quote from: linziyi on Sat, 29 June 2013, 10:44:20
    Is there any "custom spring" that have a force more than 80g (like 100g, 120g) on sale?

    I've never seen higher than 80g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:41:30
    Would lubing Clears with 62g Korean springs get rid of the stickiness I'm feeling when the switches rebound?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:47:04
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:41:30
    Would lubing Clears with 62g Korean springs get rid of the stickiness I'm feeling when the switches rebound?

    It will help some, but won't get rid of all of it.  That stickiness is why I actually prefer 65-67g springs over 62g in Ergo Clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:47:58
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:47:04
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:41:30
    Would lubing Clears with 62g Korean springs get rid of the stickiness I'm feeling when the switches rebound?

    It will help some, but won't get rid of all of it.  That stickiness is why I actually prefer 65-67g springs over 62g in Ergo Clears.

    Hmm, maybe I'll have to get some 65g springs then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:48:03
    62g gold son.... 63.5g magic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:48:40
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:48:03
    62g gold son.... 63.5g magic.

    This^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:50:19
    Gold springs are slightly heavier than normal springs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:51:00
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 29 June 2013, 12:50:19
    Gold springs are slightly heavier than normal springs?

    Yes, whatever the material the springs are made out of are causes the bottom out force to be slightly heavier than the silver material.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sat, 29 June 2013, 13:56:24
    In the Classifieds section I sometimes see a lot of "BUMP" what is the purpose? I just put a keyboard up and its my first time. Some seem to get carried away with the bumping, I don't want to be inappropriate.   
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 29 June 2013, 13:57:15
    People just really want their thread up there.

    Keep in mind you should only be bumping, at most, once every 24 hours.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 29 June 2013, 14:31:29
    Quote from: MJ45 on Sat, 29 June 2013, 13:56:24
    In the Classifieds section I sometimes see a lot of "BUMP" what is the purpose? I just put a keyboard up and its my first time. Some seem to get carried away with the bumping, I don't want to be inappropriate.

    If you're actively selling something, your thread will eventually be bumped down by newly created ones and those that got bumped with replies and self-bumps.  Sometimes things in those other threads ahead of yours get sold quickly, but they still remain ahead of your post.  Basically you can bump your own stuff but do so tactfully once a day to avoid spamming :)  Most do this because I think majority looks only at the first page, and some at the first two pages of the Classifieds subforum.  If you bump too often, your thread has a good chance of being locked :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rayne on Sat, 29 June 2013, 19:27:13
    ok, sorry if this has been answered before, but after searching i couldn't find a strait answer anywhere. Is there any place where you can buy 7x costar stabilizers? I will need one for my phantom build. Even if i can just find the 7x wire somewhere that would work because i know i can just the other parts from wasdkekyboards. This size space bar seems somewhat common here in this forum, so you would think there is a place to get these without having to bend one yourself. Thanks for any info anyone may have :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 June 2013, 19:45:27
    Quote from: Rayne on Sat, 29 June 2013, 19:27:13
    ok, sorry if this has been answered before, but after searching i couldn't find a strait answer anywhere. Is there any place where you can buy 7x costar stabilizers? I will need one for my phantom build. Even if i can just find the 7x wire

    You have to bend it yourself. They don't exist.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rayne on Sat, 29 June 2013, 19:48:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 June 2013, 19:45:27
    You have to bend it yourself. They don't exist.

    well thats a bummer, thanks for the info tho :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: megaforce on Sun, 30 June 2013, 05:37:16
    Anyone know the bottoming out force for a spring a Vintage Black?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Luke on Sun, 30 June 2013, 06:05:10
    Anyone know if anyone made a plate for a kbt race?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 June 2013, 08:03:39
    Quote from: Luke on Sun, 30 June 2013, 06:05:10
    Anyone know if anyone made a plate for a kbt race?

    I've never seen one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Sun, 30 June 2013, 08:05:06
    Why is CPTBadAss' title

    Quote
    518 Hardcore
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 June 2013, 08:09:18
    Quote from: Tym on Sun, 30 June 2013, 08:05:06
    Why is CPTBadAss' title

    Quote
    518 Hardcore

    I'm really into the hardcore music scene, especially the scene in my hometown.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Sun, 30 June 2013, 08:09:35
    Cool :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 30 June 2013, 09:19:03
    Quote from: Tym on Sun, 30 June 2013, 08:05:06
    Why is CPTBadAss' title

    Quote
    518 Hardcore

    And i thought that's what time he got off work in the afternoons so he could make moves! ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 30 June 2013, 09:49:59
    Hey CPT.  Last night on Rock 108 KFMW during the Full Metal Jackie segment they played Children of Bodom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 30 June 2013, 09:53:49
    I love Children of Bodom T_T
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 June 2013, 10:00:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 30 June 2013, 09:49:59
    Hey CPT.  Last night on Rock 108 KFMW during the Full Metal Jackie segment they played Children of Bodom.

    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 30 June 2013, 09:53:49
    I love Children of Bodom T_T

    Here's a simple question, why is Children of Bodom not on the radio more? :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 30 June 2013, 10:24:26
    Couldn't answer that one CPT.  The guest for last nights segment was Unnamed Ghoul from a group called ghost.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 June 2013, 10:26:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 30 June 2013, 10:24:26
    Couldn't answer that one CPT.  The guest for last nights segment was Unnamed Ghoul from a group called ghost.

    Haha! That's so cool. I don't like Ghost but they're crazy. Their personas are insane. James Hetfield likes them so much that he brought em on tour with Metallica.

    Ok ok, someone put this back on topic. Sorry everyone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 30 June 2013, 11:33:40
    You can find costar 7x wire from old winkeyless board like Chicony.
    Vintage black bottom out something like 77g.

    I saw Children of Bodom years ago when they were on North America tour with Dimmu Borgir.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DavChrFen on Sun, 30 June 2013, 11:41:21
    Is there somewhere a summary which keyboard has steel plate?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 June 2013, 11:43:47
    Quote from: DavChrFen on Sun, 30 June 2013, 11:41:21
    Is there somewhere a summary which keyboard has steel plate?

    There's no comprehensive summary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: megaforce on Sun, 30 June 2013, 15:35:33
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 30 June 2013, 11:33:40
    You can find costar 7x wire from old winkeyless board like Chicony.
    Vintage black bottom out something like 77g.

    I saw Children of Bodom years ago when they were on North America tour with Dimmu Borgir.

    Thanks!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Mon, 01 July 2013, 10:06:13
    Who makes blank OEM profile PBTs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 July 2013, 10:27:41
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Mon, 01 July 2013, 10:06:13
    Who makes blank OEM profile PBTs?

    Maybe feng? I think all the stuff imsto has is Cherry profile. Nothing else is jumping out at me at the moment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Mon, 01 July 2013, 11:54:44
    Anyone know what the windows key is called in auto hot key? I just got my POKER II and I want to swap WIN with FN, its not OS key either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 01 July 2013, 12:27:55
    Quote from: Rule16 on Mon, 01 July 2013, 11:54:44
    Anyone know what the windows key is called in auto hot key? I just got my POKER II and I want to swap WIN with FN, its not OS key either.

    LWin for left winkey, RWin for right.

    If I got it wrong, do some google-fu I pulled this from the AHK site, but it's 2AM and I'm tired.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 01 July 2013, 15:41:51
    Quote from: Rule16 on Mon, 01 July 2013, 11:54:44
    Anyone know what the windows key is called in auto hot key? I just got my POKER II and I want to swap WIN with FN, its not OS key either.

    I thought the poker 2 was programmable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 July 2013, 16:18:38
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 01 July 2013, 15:41:51
    I thought the poker 2 was programmable?

    It should be.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Mon, 01 July 2013, 17:02:53
    Anyone know the stock voltages a Filco allows for the 2 LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 July 2013, 17:11:03
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Mon, 01 July 2013, 17:02:53
    Anyone know the stock voltages a Filco allows for the 2 LEDs?

    Photoelectric just did this swap. Some info can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.msg931673#msg931673).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 01 July 2013, 17:47:46
    I've got a few more LEDs in the mail.  Basically I've been getting them from Mouser.com.  Pay attention to luminosity/brightness.  "UV" (really, purple) LEDs didn't turn on at all on my Filco with stock blue LEDs, so that tells me the voltage with the stock resistor is under 3V.  Amber LEDs were fairly faint too, but I did not get any bright ones.  There are a few high-brightness amber and yellow LEDs coming in the mail to compare as well as some green LEDs.

    These, for example, did not turn on at all that I could notice:
    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/BIVAR/UV3TZ-390-30/?qs=%2fha2pyFadugHc2bKpudzWvcVi%2fwAQl%252be%252bm4ZU%2fcRwj6Ox%2fonSwrFCs1wmFXBxJ0susg6BMx%2fCwmZQrZMZQK8d5XkJADQr9ps
    (390nm is still within visible spectrum as violet color)

    All of the amber LEDs I got turned on, though some were faint, so 2-2.5V range is tested to be good on my board with stock blue LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 01 July 2013, 20:38:19
    I can't speak for the LEDs on a Filco but if you check the HD LED in the Was link in my SIG I posted the voltages for them with the 3 different brightness settings in the synapse software.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 07:56:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 01 July 2013, 15:41:51
    Quote from: Rule16 on Mon, 01 July 2013, 11:54:44
    Anyone know what the windows key is called in auto hot key? I just got my POKER II and I want to swap WIN with FN, its not OS key either.

    I thought the poker 2 was programmable?
    It is but I have no idea how to do it because the manual is in Chinese.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 02 July 2013, 08:24:33
    Quote from: Rule16 on Tue, 02 July 2013, 07:56:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 01 July 2013, 15:41:51
    Quote from: Rule16 on Mon, 01 July 2013, 11:54:44
    Anyone know what the windows key is called in auto hot key? I just got my POKER II and I want to swap WIN with FN, its not OS key either.

    I thought the poker 2 was programmable?
    It is but I have no idea how to do it because the manual is in Chinese.

    There is a translation that has been posted I'd find it and link to it but I'm on my phone.

    I'm thinking its even in this thread somewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 July 2013, 08:34:03
    English Poker II manual and how to program it can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg903862#msg903862).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 02 July 2013, 08:38:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 July 2013, 08:34:03
    English Poker II manual and how to program it can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg903862#msg903862).

    Captain to the rescue!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 July 2013, 08:39:14
    Ray, you were correct, it was in this thread. Good memory ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:05:11
    So I am cutting up these usb cables for a home brew style detachable cable mod and came up with a couple questions.

    1.  The wire and (guessing here) mylar wrap is just for an EMF/EMI shield correct?

    2.  If I want to use this it would get soldered to the shell on the connectors and to the far outside black pin on the mobo usb connector, correct?

    3.  Is it required to even hook it up?

    4.  What could potentially happen if i don't hook it up?

    The reason i am asking is on one cable it tinned nicely and the other cable it won't tin at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 07:34:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 03:05:11
    1.  The wire and (guessing here) mylar wrap is just for an EMF/EMI shield correct?

    Yes. I don't know the answer to the rest of the questions though :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 09:49:39
    In additions to my questions in my last post does anyone know if it is possible to take a razer naga epic apart and lube the scroll wheel?  Mine still works 100% but just noticed a couple squeeks from the wheel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 09:55:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 09:49:39
    In additions to my questions in my last post does anyone know if it is possible to take a razer naga epic apart and lube the scroll wheel?  Mine still works 100% but just noticed a couple squeeks from the wheel.

    Why wouldn't it be possible? I'm sure it can be done, I've just never taken apart a mouse so I can't say for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Wed, 03 July 2013, 09:58:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 09:49:39
    In additions to my questions in my last post does anyone know if it is possible to take a razer naga epic apart and lube the scroll wheel?  Mine still works 100% but just noticed a couple squeeks from the wheel.

    never done the naga before, but I've dismantled most of my mice before (logitech mx518, g500, g9, wow joypen) etc to clean the microswitches and apply lube to the scroll wheel. shouldn't be too hard to do same for the naga.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:47:19
    What Korean Customs can be had for $300?

    Has anyone added LEDs to the Poker 2 yet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:50:00
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:47:19
    What Korean Customs can be had for $300?

    From what I've seen, $400 seems to be the magical number for many boards. I think the stuff that GON is doing is around $200-300 though. I seem to remember Calavera's Alps/MX PCB with a GON case going for less than $300.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:50:53
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:47:19
    What Korean Customs can be had for $300?

    You could probably pick up a 38GT + Duck Poker case for around $300, if you can find one. Maybe a 2Tu?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:52:05
    2TU was around $400 with shipping and assembly costs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 July 2013, 11:00:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:52:05
    2TU was around $400 with shipping and assembly costs.

    Ah, I see. Still cheaper than the $500-600 after shipping and assembly for a KMAC or LZ. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 03 July 2013, 12:44:32
    What MX switch has the most tactile feel? The blue and green have a separate slider while the white & clear are one piece stems. I am looking for the most tactile feel not necessarily the most noise, Thanks. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 03 July 2013, 12:49:54
    Quote from: MJ45 on Wed, 03 July 2013, 12:44:32
    What MX switch has the most tactile feel? The blue and green have a separate slider while the white & clear are one piece stems. I am looking for the most tactile feel not necessarily the most noise, Thanks.

    That depends on what you consider to be tactile.  Clears have the biggest bump and Ergo Clears are, IMO, by far the most tactile switches.  Some people, however, think Greens or Blues are the most tactile.  My opinion is that they just have a different kind of tactile feel.  Clears you feel the bump coming and feel the nice large bump going over the metal contact in the switch.  With Blues, you feel the switch start to get resistance, feel a bit of hesitation, then feel the slider shoot past the contact.  That hesitation with a jumping action past the contact makes some people feel that Blues and Greens are more tactile because they have a more sudden feeling in them compared to the gradual and predictable actuation of a Clear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 12:51:02
    Quote from: MJ45 on Wed, 03 July 2013, 12:44:32
    What MX switch has the most tactile feel? The blue and green have a separate slider while the white & clear are one piece stems. I am looking for the most tactile feel not necessarily the most noise, Thanks.

    This is extremely subjective and not really a simple question. First off, what do you mean by "tactile" feel? Are you looking for a clicky switch or a switch with a bump in it? Second off, I can only offer my own opinion on it. Just because I feel a certain way doesn't mean you'll agree when you try the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 03 July 2013, 12:56:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:52:05
    2TU was around $400 with shipping and assembly costs.

    ^^
    you can get 2tu parts for around $200, but a fully assembled and prepped 2tu is near $400
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:16:41
    Somebody answered this question for me in the GH60 thread but I can't find it.

    Can someone recommend a type of LED's for me to use on a kb?  Link would be awesome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:20:08
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:16:41
    Somebody answered this question for me in the GH60 thread but I can't find it.

    Can someone recommend a type of LED's for me to use on a kb?  Link would be awesome.

    Square, water clear LEDs. I bought mine from eBay. I can't link because I'm at work. If you don't get a link, I can show you later. People also seem to like "Superbrightleds.com" but it seems kinda sketchy to me.

    If you remember the phrase or something from the post in the GH60 thread, you can do a "site:Geekhack.org <phrase>" search on Google to find it. That's usually how I magic up threads.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:22:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:20:08
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:16:41
    Somebody answered this question for me in the GH60 thread but I can't find it.

    Can someone recommend a type of LED's for me to use on a kb?  Link would be awesome.

    Square, water clear LEDs. I bought mine from eBay. I can't link because I'm at work. If you don't get a link, I can show you later. People also seem to like "Superbrightleds.com" but it seems kinda sketchy to me.

    If you remember the phrase or something from the post in the GH60 thread, you can do a "site:Geekhack.org <phrase>" search on Google to find it. That's usually how I magic up threads.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-1-8mm-LED-Light-Emitting-Diode-Water-Clear-AMBER-/350491834194?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519af0f752
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/100-1-8mm-LED-Light-Emitting-Diode-Water-Clear-AMBER-/00/s/Mzc1WDUwMA==/$(KGrHqZ,!m!E5e)7o38HBOb50bW4HQ~~60_12.JPG)

    Something like this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:23:19
    Use this link for LEDs:  http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.X2x3x4+led&_nkw=2x3x4+led&_sacat=0&_from=R40

    You want the 2x3x4mm water clear LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:29:28
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:23:19
    Use this link for LEDs:  http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.X2x3x4+led&_nkw=2x3x4+led&_sacat=0&_from=R40

    You want the 2x3x4mm water clear LEDs.
    Thank you good sir.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:41:26
    It's been a while but back in the day I used MSN Messenger for chat but seems like Skype has now taken over it's place. Do you guys use skype for old school text chat?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:45:49
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:41:26
    It's been a while but back in the day I used MSN Messenger for chat but seems like Skype has now taken over it's place. Do you guys use skype for old school text chat?
    I miss MSN holy crap
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:47:39
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:41:26
    It's been a while but back in the day I used MSN Messenger for chat but seems like Skype has now taken over it's place. Do you guys use skype for old school text chat?

    For talking to my GH friends? Skype and IRC. For talking to some friends? AIM and text.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tym on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:48:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:41:26
    It's been a while but back in the day I used MSN Messenger for chat but seems like Skype has now taken over it's place. Do you guys use skype for old school text chat?
    Yes, Skype is great. There are alot of misconceptions about skype but i have a lot of group text chats going on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:59:59
    Well I just installed skype my ID is spamray if anyone wants to add me. I'm not much for video/voice but text chat would be cool!

    Perhaps I need to look into AIM, I used it back in the day.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:20:07
    where can i buy the backlit poker 2 keyboard? the fact that it comes with ABS caps doesn't bother me, because i'll be replacing them with some custom PBTs. techkeys.us and mechanicalkeyboards.com both sell the PBT, non-backlit version :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:22:33
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:20:07
    where can i buy the backlit poker 2 keyboard? the fact that it comes with ABS caps doesn't bother me, because i'll be replacing them with some custom PBTs. techkeys.us and mechanicalkeyboards.com both sell the PBT, non-backlit version :(

    Buy the non-backlit and either add the LEDs yourself or pay someone to do it.  It's a pretty easy deal to do and it gives you more versatility when it comes to the LEDs you use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:54:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 July 2013, 08:34:03
    English Poker II manual and how to program it can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg903862#msg903862).
    Thank you for finding that for me... but apparently it doesn't want the FN key to be changed anyway...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KaLam1ty on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:53:06
    Just a quick question pertaining to the Poker and Poker II:

    I've heard of people adding lead weights behind the PCB to give it more heft. Do you guys just add
    modeling weights such as: http://www.amazon.com/toys-games/dp/B0015KLJE0
    between the seams of the back case piece?

    Would this mod be applicable to the Poker II? Is there enough space? I know the plate it comes with already adds some weight
    but I really like keyboards that are completely solid feeling when carrying it around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:28:48
    Quote from: KaLam1ty on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:53:06
    Just a quick question pertaining to the Poker and Poker II:

    I've heard of people adding lead weights behind the PCB to give it more heft. Do you guys just add
    modeling weights such as: http://www.amazon.com/toys-games/dp/B0015KLJE0
    between the seams of the back case piece?

    Would this mod be applicable to the Poker II? Is there enough space? I know the plate it comes with already adds some weight
    but I really like keyboards that are completely solid feeling when carrying it around.

    It would just be heavier...wouldn't feel more solid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:29:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:28:48
    Quote from: KaLam1ty on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:53:06
    Just a quick question pertaining to the Poker and Poker II:

    I've heard of people adding lead weights behind the PCB to give it more heft. Do you guys just add
    modeling weights such as: http://www.amazon.com/toys-games/dp/B0015KLJE0
    between the seams of the back case piece?

    Would this mod be applicable to the Poker II? Is there enough space? I know the plate it comes with already adds some weight
    but I really like keyboards that are completely solid feeling when carrying it around.

    It would just be heavier...wouldn't feel more solid.
    When lifting something heavier makes it feel more solid imo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:33:03
    Putting lead weights into my Pure case won't make it feel any more solid....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:37:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:33:03
    Putting lead weights into my Pure case won't make it feel any more solid....
    Yes obviously not when flexing it.  But some people just like to lift something that feels heavier rather than lighter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:40:34
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:37:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:33:03
    Putting lead weights into my Pure case won't make it feel any more solid....
    Yes obviously not when flexing it.  But some people just like to lift something that feels heavier rather than lighter.

    This is where aluminum cases come in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:41:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:40:34
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:37:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:33:03
    Putting lead weights into my Pure case won't make it feel any more solid....
    Yes obviously not when flexing it.  But some people just like to lift something that feels heavier rather than lighter.

    This is where aluminum cases come in.
    I suppose.  I'm just trying to answer his question lol.  It technically does not make it any sturdier or rigid.  However it will be heavier, if you are into that kind of thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:47:31
    Best easiest way to make a PCB mount keyboard feel more solid without totally ruining the PCB mount feeling and personality is an underplate. Put a piece of steel under the PCB, insulated of course. For a 60% it's a pretty simple affair of having it cut to the correct size and drilling the mounting holes as needed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KaLam1ty on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:53:49
    True, adding weights won't make the board feel more solid in terms of rigidity, but the Poker II already has a backplate to cover that.
    I want to give it more weight to give the board a greater feeling of heftiness when I move it around. Anyone know if this is possible to do
    with the Poker II?

    And yes, an aluminum case would solve what I'm looking for, but my wallet is pretty dusty right now  :)).

    Thanks for the responses guys.

    edit:
    @Ivan
    A steel plate, cut to size, sounds like a good idea actually. Anyone have any idea as to how much clearing I could put underneath the PCB? I'd rather get an idea first before I go
    and break this thing open. (Just got the deck today  :p).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 03 July 2013, 22:01:06
    The way I always have done this mod, is plate then .5mm rubber sheet, (clip any extra long pokies sticking out of through hole components as needed) then PCB. If it needs a mounting screw like Poker/Pure you might need to find some that are a tiny bit longer, but usually I just do this with G80 which is all friction fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Thu, 04 July 2013, 02:34:59
    Why do most full-sized keyboards have 18x8 matrices? There obviously isn't 144 keys in most keyboards, and even if there were a 12x12 matrix would save more space. A 12x12 would need 24 traces compared to 26 on an 18x8.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 04 July 2013, 09:34:45
    Would it be possible to build a trackball with many buttons under the thumb?  Think of it as a trackball version of the Razer Naga without the Synapse crapware.  Would it be feasible?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 09:59:01
    Quote from: Topre on Thu, 04 July 2013, 02:34:59
    Why do most full-sized keyboards have 18x8 matrices? There obviously isn't 144 keys in most keyboards, and even if there were a 12x12 matrix would save more space. A 12x12 would need 24 traces compared to 26 on an 18x8.

    Maybe standardization? It's easier to crank out that size for some reason?

    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 04 July 2013, 09:34:45
    Would it be possible to build a trackball with many buttons under the thumb?  Think of it as a trackball version of the Razer Naga without the Synapse crapware.  Would it be feasible?

    I don't see why this wouldn't work. In fact, it sounds pretty awesome
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:06:04
    Does any generation of KMAC pcb support full keyboard LED? I know KMAC2 supports LED only for F keys, WASD, caps lock and scroll lock, to my disappointment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:09:56
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:06:04
    Does any generation of KMAC pcb support full keyboard LED? I know KMAC2 supports LED only for F keys, WASD, caps lock and scroll lock, to my disappointment.

    Don't think so. My KMAC LE also only supports that. But check out Dianoda's LZ (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45404.msg949932#msg949932).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:12:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:09:56
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:06:04
    Does any generation of KMAC pcb support full keyboard LED? I know KMAC2 supports LED only for F keys, WASD, caps lock and scroll lock, to my disappointment.

    Don't think so. My KMAC LE also only supports that. But check out Dianoda's LZ (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45404.msg949932#msg949932).

    Thank you for your reply. Maybe I should just wait for the next generation 87 keys layout KMAC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:57:47
    What are the approximate Korean spring equivalents of modern AND vintage MX Blacks?  I'm trying to figure out if swapping 65g springs into vintage MX Blacks is going to make them slightly lighter or a lot lighter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 11:00:18
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:57:47
    What are the approximate Korean spring equivalents of modern AND vintage MX Blacks?  I'm trying to figure out if swapping 65g springs into vintage MX Blacks is going to make them slightly lighter or a lot lighter.

    Not sure about the Vintage Blacks thing. I'm still unsure if they're lighter/smoother because of a change in design/creation or just from wear.

    65g and 67g are probably closest to regular MX Blacks. Binge says his 2TU has 68g springs, but I'm not sure if those actually exist or if they're gold spring 67g which means the bottom out force would be more around 68g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 04 July 2013, 11:07:18
    They definitely are smoother!  I have a vintage MX Black switch, and getting more next week (brand new, so they won't have been worn in).  My single vintage MX Black switch at the moment is super smooth and lighter--I love it.  Just did a simple nickel test, looks like it bottoms out somewhere between 65 and 70g, closer to 65g.  Maybe it's the dramatically low friction that makes them feel lighter than modern Black.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Thu, 04 July 2013, 12:32:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 09:59:01
    Quote from: Topre on Thu, 04 July 2013, 02:34:59
    Why do most full-sized keyboards have 18x8 matrices? There obviously isn't 144 keys in most keyboards, and even if there were a 12x12 matrix would save more space. A 12x12 would need 24 traces compared to 26 on an 18x8.

    Maybe standardization? It's easier to crank out that size for some reason?

    Is it really because of standardization? When tracing matrices of keyboards, it seems like the extra few columns are for modifiers. For example, the CST104 board has it's own column for a single right windows key and left windows key. Both of the shift-keys share the same column alone. Both control-keys share a column with F5 and Pause/Break. Both Alt-keys share a column with Print Screen and Scroll Lock. It seems like the doing this will make NKRO easier, or at least have KRO + modifiers for no ghosting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 12:40:33
    I have no idea. Was taking a guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Thu, 04 July 2013, 12:44:49
    I'm taking a guess too, but it would be interesting to find out the roots of the 18x8 matrix.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 12:45:34
    Make a separate thread where someone way smarter than me can chime in man ^__^

    I'm not sure if it's a simple answer to your questions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 20:43:35
    So this (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0G990224virtualkey54010000virtualkey540-G99-0224) Cherry Plate Mounted Stabilizers from Mouser.

    What is the part number at Mouser for PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 04 July 2013, 21:13:41
    Does anyone know where I can find the costar stabiliser specsheet, or does anyone know what the maximum internal radii for costar stabiliser holes is?

    Answer found. Maximum interal radii is the same as Cherry switch holes - 0.012in
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 05 July 2013, 00:04:09
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 04 July 2013, 21:13:41
    Does anyone know where I can find the costar stabiliser specsheet, or does anyone know what the maximum internal radii for costar stabiliser holes is?

    I see what you did there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 05 July 2013, 10:16:47
    Sorry about the double post but it has been 10 hours since the previous post and I had a couple questions. 

    Has anyone ever tried to use an Orbweaver without the plastic plate that restricts cap usage?

    And the other night I was building a really custom cable for my top secret project and I jumped the wire insulation with the tip on my soldering iron.  Now that stuff got burnt on real quick and that side of the tip won't tin.  Any suggestions on how to fix this issue?  So far the only things I have tried is tinning the crap out of that side and my brass tip cleaning "sponge".  I am paranoid to take more aggressive actions because I don't want to lose the nickel coating.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 17:54:14
    Binge told me last night he couldn't figure out how to remove that plate on the caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 18:42:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 20:43:35
    So this (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0G990224virtualkey54010000virtualkey540-G99-0224) Cherry Plate Mounted Stabilizers from Mouser.

    What is the part number at Mouser for PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers?

    I'm double posting and answering my own question. Binge found the Cherry Datasheet which has info on the stabilized keys. Link for the sheet is here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/75eoa1a2k2l6lb5/Cherry%20Stabilizer%20and%20Datasheet.pdf).

    Part numbers for the stabilizer:

    (http://i.imgur.com/rvVER43.png)

    Frame = Plate Mounted
    w/o frame = PCB Mounted
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glissant on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:29:20
    Does it matter which way the surface Mount diodes are soldered on to the pads on the pcb? Specifically wondering when it comes to the first batch of ergodox.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:31:36
    Quote from: Glissant on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:29:20
    Does it matter which way the surface Mount diodes are soldered on to the pads on the pcb? Specifically wondering when it comes to the first batch of ergodox.

    In general, directionality matters on diodes, so I would imagine so.  I haven't done an ErgoDox, so I can't say for sure, but I would imagine it holds true.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Yeah it should matter, the direction determines the polarity. One end should have a line, the other end doesn't. The side with the line is negative on a diode or the cathode on SMD diode. The cathode is a black line on a 1N4148 diode. Check out the picture (Borrowed from SparkFun (https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/polarity/diode-and-led-polarity)) below:

    (https://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/assets/1/e/8/1/4/518aca69ce395f6437000002.png)


    On PCBs, they often have little diagrams showing you which end is the cathode. For example, my KMAC has this:

    (http://i.imgur.com/NS3hU7P.jpg)

    So you just match the lines up.

    And if you have just regular diodes, they'll line up like this (Props to Sifo for the pic):

    (http://i.imgur.com/hV8DTsi.jpg)

    And I'm linking this picture just for more info on plain/non-SMD diodes. Picture found here (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/diodes.html).

    (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/diode-markings.jpg)

    Also check out this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.5040) for more information.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glissant on Fri, 05 July 2013, 21:10:41
    Thanks for the excellent answers.
    I imagined it would matter but I didn't see a line or any indicator on the diodes, so got confused.
    I have so much work to do on this edox now because of this stupid mistake.

    Thanks again :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 21:11:34
    Oh no Glissbro! :(

    Let me know how it goes Dai Lo <3. I wanna try your ergo-dox  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glissant on Fri, 05 July 2013, 23:04:48
    Yeah made some stupid mistakes. I think I can make out a line on the diodes, but it's really hard to see. Should have just dealt with the through-hole diodes instead xD.


    You'll be the third on the list to try it when I finally get it fixed, sai lo :). First I want to make my Epsilon though.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 23:26:59
    Let me know if you have any other questions Glissbro. And third? THIRD? I see how it is...:P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glissant on Sat, 06 July 2013, 00:22:31
    The wife and I clearly get priority, sai lo <3.

    Epsilon or LZ-GH for my next build to screw up? =p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 July 2013, 00:23:19
    LZ-GH! <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 06 July 2013, 00:24:15
    Quote from: Glissant on Sat, 06 July 2013, 00:22:31
    The wife and I clearly get priority, sai lo <3.

    Epsilon or LZ-GH for my next build to screw up? =p

    Epsilon. Not knocking metalliqaz, but the LZ-GH is a #legit board and I'm guessing would be harder to find parts/PCB board if you mess it up royally
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glissant on Sat, 06 July 2013, 00:30:12
    No plans to actually break anything ;) . Looks like I might have to get some more stabs before I can build both the boards as my mouser order seems to be plate mounted.
    LZ-GH it is then. Thankfully those resistors are clearly marked for an old man like me ;) .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 July 2013, 00:35:21
    I had to do a lot of research before I figured out all the diode stuff so it's all good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shadowness on Sat, 06 July 2013, 04:03:19
    wanna ask to anyone who got backlit keyboard and black ABS keycap.... do the light leaks out when you turn on the backlit ?

    cos I bought a light blue ABS from wasd and it leaks out the light so it doesnt look nice... i am thinking to get a side print keycaps now but if black still lets light through then Im gonna need double shot/ PBT ones....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 July 2013, 10:31:24
    Quote from: shadowness on Sat, 06 July 2013, 04:03:19
    wanna ask to anyone who got backlit keyboard and black ABS keycap.... do the light leaks out when you turn on the backlit ?

    Yes, backlighting will leak out. It's not the color of the cap that matters as much as the thickness and material of the caps. Check out this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg895963#msg895963) for an idea of what backlighting might look light. I know it's not black caps but it doesn't really matter too much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glod on Sat, 06 July 2013, 21:43:22
    I am running out of weekend keyboard projects; partly because i still don't have my clear's from prof and i am still waiting on the acrylic poker case. GH60s are far away still.

    soooooooooo...

    Simple Question to other geekhack members:

    What should i work on as my next weekend keyboard project?

    Extra Info: I have some extra teensy units and i know how to solder pretty well now but i don't know how to program them yet. I was thinking doing some sort of programmable keyboard project with an old keyboard like IBM (using  Soarer instructions), but ill need advice on what old keyboard i should grab and restore.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 July 2013, 21:55:29
    Quote from: Glod on Sat, 06 July 2013, 21:43:22
    What should i work on as my next weekend keyboard project?

    Teensy mod an old board: USB and Program it. Sounds pretty awesome. Oh, and build log
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glod on Sat, 06 July 2013, 22:09:26
    any suggestions on what old board i should purchase to do a teensy mod? affordable one preferably as this probably will never be a primary keyboard for me. Not going for the super rare stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 July 2013, 22:11:13
    Model M 1391401
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glod on Sat, 06 July 2013, 22:18:01
    pretty specific answer there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 July 2013, 22:22:20
    Quote from: Glod on Sat, 06 July 2013, 22:18:01
    pretty specific answer there.

    It's just the "standard" Model M that people think of when you say Model M. Didn't want you to hunt like a Model F Unsaver or something rare like you said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glod on Sat, 06 July 2013, 22:33:02
    Cost appears doable for this Model M, gonna sleep on it :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 02:28:03
    So what is the difference internally between an active and a passive PS/2 to USB converter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: smknjoe on Sun, 07 July 2013, 02:34:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 02:28:03
    So what is the difference internally between an active and a passive PS/2 to USB converter?

    http://web.archive.org/web/20080228180642/http://www.geocities.com/jszybowski/keyboard/index.htm
    http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11298/subcatid/0/id/124184
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 02:56:26
    Thanks joe. 

    Another question for you guys.  Any suggestions on mounting a teensy without being soldered to the PCB as my project won't have one.  I don't like the idea of double sided sticky tape either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 07 July 2013, 03:06:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 02:56:26
    Another question for you guys.  Any suggestions on mounting a teensy without being soldered to the PCB as my project won't have one.  I don't like the idea of double sided sticky tape either.

    If you won't use double sided tape, I suppose you could do something like mount the Teensy on a PCB like this one (http://www.amazon.com/Perforated-Board-2-5-1-7-320-410/dp/B0002ZPUD0/ref=sr_1_43?ie=UTF8&qid=1373184175&sr=8-43&keywords=protoboard) or this one (http://www.amazon.com/Perforated-Board-4-5-3-1-320-430/dp/B0002ZPUDK/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y), attach stand offs the the PCB, and epoxy the standoffs in place.  Double side tape would be much easier though.  Or, if you're never going to move or remove the Teensy, I suppose you could exposy or hot glue it in place.  I'd still go with the PCB or double sided tape suggestion though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Sun, 07 July 2013, 03:40:49
    ID this board for me please - seller claims it's mechanical.

    (http://abload.de/img/0.klappingkfscn.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 04:43:45
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 07 July 2013, 03:06:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 02:56:26
    Another question for you guys.  Any suggestions on mounting a teensy without being soldered to the PCB as my project won't have one.  I don't like the idea of double sided sticky tape either.

    If you won't use double sided tape, I suppose you could do something like mount the Teensy on a PCB like this one (http://www.amazon.com/Perforated-Board-2-5-1-7-320-410/dp/B0002ZPUD0/ref=sr_1_43?ie=UTF8&qid=1373184175&sr=8-43&keywords=protoboard) or this one (http://www.amazon.com/Perforated-Board-4-5-3-1-320-430/dp/B0002ZPUDK/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y), attach stand offs the the PCB, and epoxy the standoffs in place.  Double side tape would be much easier though.  Or, if you're never going to move or remove the Teensy, I suppose you could exposy or hot glue it in place.  I'd still go with the PCB or double sided tape suggestion though.

    I am just paranoid about shorts with stuff touching traces and pins.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: badcop on Sun, 07 July 2013, 07:46:18
    i'm looking to bend some cherry stabilizer wires for a project.  i measured a cherry wire i had laying around it was 1.6mm or 1/16" of an inch (~14 gauge).  What would be a good source to get straight wire like this?  I have 1/16" stainless steel TIG welding wire at my shop but i think it might be too soft.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 09:59:28
    Stainless TIG wire should be fine.  I have worked with it before on other projects and when you. Cut it down to length it should be more than strong enough.  I am just not sure if 309/309 or 316 grade would be better.

    Question for myself.  Is there a list compiled anywhere of distances between keys including from outside edge keys and adjacent keys along with distances to navigation cluster and numpad keys.  If there isn't a list anywhere I was thinking of raking some measurements off my Das and posting them here.  I would assume the DIY resources thread would be the proper place for that info as well?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 July 2013, 11:53:37
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Sun, 07 July 2013, 03:40:49
    ID this board for me please - seller claims it's mechanical.

    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/0.klappingkfscn.jpg)


    *Maybe* it's a Focus or an NMB board but it has no markings on it so its hard to tell. Tell the seller to take a cap off so we/you can see a switch.

    Quote from: badcop on Sun, 07 July 2013, 07:46:18
    i'm looking to bend some cherry stabilizer wires for a project.  i measured a cherry wire i had laying around it was 1.6mm or 1/16" of an inch (~14 gauge).  What would be a good source to get straight wire like this?  I have 1/16" stainless steel TIG welding wire at my shop but i think it might be too soft.

    Not sure how helpful this is but Litster has a Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zry3CHNKgT8) video where he shows how he makes Costar stabilizer wires. He says he uses 3/64" music wire that he got at a hobby shop.

    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 09:59:28
    1) Question for myself.  Is there a list compiled anywhere of distances between keys including from outside edge keys and adjacent keys along with distances to navigation cluster and numpad keys. 

    2) If there isn't a list anywhere I was thinking of raking some measurements off my Das and posting them here.  I would assume the DIY resources thread would be the proper place for that info as well?

    1) No since this is different for every keyboard.

    2) Don't put it in here. Make a new thread or put it in the DIY thread. Not sure if it should go there since it seems very general and you're only putting dimensions up for your Das.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ReDyrme on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:25:48
    removed
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:28:59
    I think it will give you some idea, but you'll still need some keycaps to go on the switches to get a better idea, and moreover, it won't be the same to test individual switches vs. how they will feel once mounted on a full keyboard.  The switches will feel a bit heavier too when mounted on a keyboard at your normal typing angle..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:31:37
    Quote from: ReDyrme on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:25:48
    It is worth getting it (WASD Sampler Pack) for $18.54 incl. shipping to find out which switch I like the most?

    DT has some switch tester tours that you can try as well if you don't like the shipping price.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ReDyrme on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:39:50
    removed
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:41:53
    Quote from: ReDyrme on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:39:50
    1) Can you tell what DT is? Sorry I'm new here. :D

    2) Do you not get the keycaps which are on the picture?

    1) Deskthority is another keyboard community/forum. They are more Euro-centric so it might be easier for you to get in on a tour like that if you don't like the price you listed before.

    2) You do. Not really sure what Photoelectric is referring to. He is right that it feels better to try the switches on a keyboard but that sampler kit is better than nothing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:42:24
    You do, yes--I forgot it comes with keycaps, sorry!  Other points stand.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:46:55
    Quote from: ReDyrme on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:25:48
    I found this Sampler Kit from WASD  http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-sampler-kit.html (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-sampler-kit.html) and wanted to ask, if you think it is worth getting it for $18.54 incl. shipping to find out which switch I like the most?
    Depending on where you live (you know, Europe is still kinda unspecific), you might find somebody who lives in your country who might lend or sell you his kit if he has one. Also if there is a local branch of Conrad in your country, they sell Cherry MX Clear and Black switches, you then only lack the Red switch, but that's just lighter than the Black.

    Quote from: ReDyrme on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:39:50
    Can you tell what DT is? Sorry I'm new here. :D
    Deskthority.net, another mechanical keyboards related forum with more Europeans than GH.

    Quote from: ReDyrme on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:39:50
    Do you not get the keycaps which are on the picture?
    You do, but it still makes a big difference having a whole keyboard with a certain switch. A single switch may feel more tactile and is probably not as loud as a whole keyboard.

    Again Captain snipes me :'( Edit: I got even sniped twice! I really need to train touch typing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ReDyrme on Sun, 07 July 2013, 16:46:56
    removed
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 07 July 2013, 16:56:33
    What size screws does the poker use? I know there's a thread on it. I just can't remember the name.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 07 July 2013, 17:07:02
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 07 July 2013, 16:56:33
    What size screws does the poker use? I know there's a thread on it. I just can't remember the name.

    It's in the FAQ in the OP, but here it is again (I know since I asked a while back):

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:26:19
    CPTBadAss, please put this info in the OP:

    Poker/Pure cases use M2-4mm (0.4mm pitch) machine screws to mount the PCB to the case. McMaster-Carr part # 92000A011

    I actually ended up getting mine of Amazon since it was cheaper than McMaster-Carr.  Here's the Amazon link (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NHXNPY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).  They were all of $3.30 shipped.  I'd offer to send you some for the cost of shipping, but unless I can send them via normal post for the cost of a postage stamp, they'd probably end up costing more than it would cost to buy them off of Amazon yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 07 July 2013, 17:12:28
    Thanks nubbs. Seems I need to check the OP more often :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 July 2013, 17:18:02
    OP gets updated as I see fit, or if someone asks me to update it, with new frequently asked questions. So definitely check on it every so often.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Sun, 07 July 2013, 18:19:26
    Who all makes blank PBTs, and what profile are they? Might make useful OP info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 July 2013, 18:22:44
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Sun, 07 July 2013, 18:19:26
    Who all makes blank PBTs, and what profile are they? Might make useful OP info.

    Imsto and SP have the only blank PBTs I've ever seen and they're Cherry profile. Don't really think it's an OP FAQ since I've only seen it asked a few times. We'll see though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 07 July 2013, 18:34:21
    Ducky has also produced thick blank PBTs in OEM profile--same as their new Dye Sub PBTs, but blank.  Apparently very small quantity, so for most people--unobtainable:
    http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ducky-nordic-keyboards-keycaps-projects-and-misc-stuff-t4718-600.html#wrapper
    (Ducky Nordic, longer post from June 14)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 07 July 2013, 18:35:43
    Page 100! Congratulations CPT & everyone who has contributed through both questions and answers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 July 2013, 18:36:55
    How'd you pull that off?? First post on page 100? And thanks but this was definitely a community effort ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 07 July 2013, 18:38:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 July 2013, 18:36:55
    How'd you pull that off?? First post on page 100? And thanks but this was definitely a community effort ^__^
    Counted the posts..  :)) and yes you're right. I've corrected my post.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 21:40:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 07 July 2013, 09:59:28
    1) Question for myself.  Is there a list compiled anywhere of distances between keys including from outside edge keys and adjacent keys along with distances to navigation cluster and numpad keys. 

    2) If there isn't a list anywhere I was thinking of raking some measurements off my Das and posting them here.  I would assume the DIY resources thread would be the proper place for that info as well?

    1) No since this is different for every keyboard.

    2) Don't put it in here. Make a new thread or put it in the DIY thread. Not sure if it should go there since it seems very general and you're only putting dimensions up for your Das.
    [/quote]

    Sounds good CPT I just figured it would be a standard measurement.  But even though it isn't a standard there can't be that much difference between different manufacturers. 

    Edit:  added a missing word due to typing on my phone
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 08 July 2013, 14:11:37
    Grats on Page 100! :D

    ...back in the new days...

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 16 March 2013, 22:37:15
    my question....how do you build a gh60?

    back to page 10 lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UniClown on Mon, 08 July 2013, 16:50:34
    Are the pin positions in a Cherry MY switch in the same location as a MX switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 July 2013, 16:58:05
    Quote from: UniClown on Mon, 08 July 2013, 16:50:34
    Are the pin positions in a Cherry MY switch in the same location as a MX switch?

    Nope, sorry. You can't replace MY switches on a PCB with MX switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 08 July 2013, 19:00:58
    I have some older switches I'd like to use at some point, and some percent of them are oxidized inside where the leaf part is. 

    (http://i.imgur.com/mdCDns4.jpg)

    A. how bad is it for operation / durability and
    B. how can I clean switch housings?  I can't soak them in detergent + water because of the metal--is there something that I could use to clean them + maybe help the oxidation on the few that have it?  It appears that scrubbing them with a q-tip doused in alcohol gets rid of some of the black coating, though not all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 08 July 2013, 19:44:50
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 08 July 2013, 19:00:58
    I have some older switches I'd like to use at some point, and some percent of them are oxidized inside where the leaf part is. 

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/mdCDns4.jpg)


    A. how bad is it for operation / durability and
    B. how can I clean switch housings?  I can't soak them in detergent + water because of the metal--is there something that I could use to clean them + maybe help the oxidation on the few that have it?  It appears that scrubbing them with a q-tip doused in alcohol gets rid of some of the black coating, though not all.

    My suggestion would be an aerosol based electrical contact cleaner with a stiff toothbrush.  Fair warning use outside or if it will be done inside make sure it is nothing your house and still use plenty of active ventilation.  That stuff has a ton of methyl-ethyl-bad@&$%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 08 July 2013, 22:06:19
    Is a mx lock switch's stem compatible with a standard switch's bottom housing ?

    example: gh60 with a plate supporting removable top covers.
    I solder in all mx reds but decide later I want a mx lock switch in the place of the left shift.
    can I just replace the top cover/stem/spring or do I have to desolder and replace the entire switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 July 2013, 22:09:43
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 08 July 2013, 19:00:58
    B. how can I clean switch housings?  I can't soak them in detergent + water because of the metal--is there something that I could use to clean them + maybe help the oxidation on the few that have it?  It appears that scrubbing them with a q-tip doused in alcohol gets rid of some of the black coating, though not all.

    Try Deoxit maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 08 July 2013, 22:24:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 July 2013, 22:09:43
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 08 July 2013, 19:00:58
    B. how can I clean switch housings?  I can't soak them in detergent + water because of the metal--is there something that I could use to clean them + maybe help the oxidation on the few that have it?  It appears that scrubbing them with a q-tip doused in alcohol gets rid of some of the black coating, though not all.

    Try Deoxit maybe?

    Thank you, I'll see about getting that. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 09 July 2013, 01:10:15
    I'm looking to get a second TKL PCB. Most likely the A87 or KMAC 1.4. I've just got a few questions.
    1. Can I get toggle lock key LEDs (like the phantom) on either of these pcbs?
    2. I noticed on WFD's KMAC video he didn't need to install any resistors for the LEDs (like on the phantom). Is this the same on the A87?
    3. Is there an english guide for the A87 yet?
    4. Does anyone have any other TKL recommendations? Must be programmable and USB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 09 July 2013, 02:00:39
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 09 July 2013, 01:10:15
    I'm looking to get a second TKL PCB. Most likely the A87 or KMAC 1.4. I've just got a few questions.
    1. Can I get toggle lock key LEDs (like the phantom) on either of these pcbs?
    2. I noticed on WFD's KMAC video he didn't need to install any resistors for the LEDs (like on the phantom). Is this the same on the A87?
    3. Is there an english guide for the A87 yet?
    4. Does anyone have any other TKL recommendations? Must be programmable and USB.

    A87 uses the ps2avr firmware
    here is a link with A87 info & firmware
    http://winkeyless.kr/entry/A87-ps2avr-%EA%B4%80%EB%A0%A8-%EC%9E%90%EB%A3%8C

    bootloader flashing instructions:
    http://winkeyless.kr/entry/%EB%B6%80%ED%8A%B8%EB%A1%9C%EB%8D%94%EB%A5%BC-%EC%9D%B4%EC%9A%A9%ED%95%9C-%ED%8E%8C%EC%9B%A8%EC%96%B4-%EB%8B%A4%EC%9A%B4%EB%A1%9C%EB%93%9C-%EB%B0%A9%EB%B2%95


    A87 build/compile instructions
    http://www3.kbdmania.net/xe/data/6240715

    since the a87 uses ps2avr there is tons of different firmware builds on http://winkeyless.kr
    with google translate I was able to figure out quite a bit from those pages.

    I do not know much about the kmac other then the cases are sexy looking.

    edit: assembly info? http://winkeyless.kr/entry/MXmini-ps2avr-%EA%B8%B0%ED%8C%90-%EC%A1%B0%EB%A6%BD-%EA%B0%80%EC%9D%B4%EB%93%9C
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 09 July 2013, 06:32:48
    Thank you for those links domo, they're very helpful. I notice that you can't program the A87 through USB.. so I think I'll avoid it and go for the KMAC PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 09 July 2013, 07:07:42
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 08 July 2013, 22:06:19
    Is a mx lock switch's stem compatible with a standard switch's bottom housing ?

    example: gh60 with a plate supporting removable top covers.
    I solder in all mx reds but decide later I want a mx lock switch in the place of the left shift.
    can I just replace the top cover/stem/spring or do I have to desolder and replace the entire switch?

    My primary guess would be no based on looking at both from the outside. Here are some pictures of a disassembled one. Open one you have and compare? http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Lock
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:26:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 09 July 2013, 06:32:48
    Thank you for those links domo, they're very helpful. I notice that you can't program the A87 through USB.. so I think I'll avoid it and go for the KMAC PCB.

    I do not want to derail this thread to far so here is a link to a thread here at geekhack to discuss this further.
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44504.0

    I wish I had one so I could port hasu's firmware to it since it is atmel based.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:32:39
    I have a simple question.
    in hasu's firmware it specify's a boot magic key.
    I have read the read.me files and it explains well what [magic] + key = function
    but what is the magic key?
    specifically for the keyboard\gh60 tree.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:37:14
    Quote from: domoaligato on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:32:39
    I have a simple question.
    in hasu's firmware it specify's a boot magic key.
    I have read the read.me files and it explains well what [magic] + key = function
    but what is the magic key?
    specifically for the keyboard\gh60 tree.

    I think be default it is programmed to be both Shifts + Pause. But you can program it to whatever you want, for instance if you don't have a Pause key on Layer 1.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 09 July 2013, 13:19:17
    No luck in another thread, so I'll try here.

    When cleaning metal parts in the switch housing with contact cleaners and using a no-residue cleaner, is it beneficial to use a lubricant / coating afterwards for corrosion-preventative measures?  For example, CRC 2-26:
    "Multi-Purpose Lubricant is a plastic-safe lubricant, penetrant and corrosion inhibitor. This lubricant helps prevent electrical malfunctions and restore damaged equipment caused by water penetration, humidity, condensation and corrosion."

    Or not really necessary?

    Deoxit also has formulas that leave residue for a similar purpose (as well as formulas that just clean, without leaving any residue)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 13:31:19
    I don't see any Cons so why not?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 09 July 2013, 13:39:01
    Only concerned about that coating possibly interacting with Krytox 103+201 in the long run.

    ETA: found this neat thread (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?126645-Comprehensive-Grease-and-Lube-Thread)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: megaforce on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:32:31
    Does anyone know the Pin out on the 4-Pin to mini USB converter chip on the QFR? Trying to solder a USB cable to it from my Phantom so I can use a detachable cable with the QFR case:

    (http://i.imgur.com/pbFPVX2.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:38:23
    There's that little jumper cable that connects that USB daughter board to the controller. Couldn't you just plug that back in and see what color wires go on which pins?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:43:55
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 09 July 2013, 13:19:17
    No luck in another thread, so I'll try here.

    When cleaning metal parts in the switch housing with contact cleaners and using a no-residue cleaner, is it beneficial to use a lubricant / coating afterwards for corrosion-preventative measures?  For example, CRC 2-26:
    "Multi-Purpose Lubricant is a plastic-safe lubricant, penetrant and corrosion inhibitor. This lubricant helps prevent electrical malfunctions and restore damaged equipment caused by water penetration, humidity, condensation and corrosion."

    Or not really necessary?

    Deoxit also has formulas that leave residue for a similar purpose (as well as formulas that just clean, without leaving any residue)

    I was going to ask why you're worried about cleaning the non-contact parts of the metal contact blades, but then said to myself, "Self, this is Geekhack you're talking about."

    I don't really think it will make one bit of difference either way.


    Quote from: megaforce93 on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:32:31
    Does anyone know the Pin out on the 4-Pin to mini USB converter chip on the QFR? Trying to solder a USB cable to it from my Phantom so I can use a detachable cable with the QFR case:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/pbFPVX2.jpg)


    Those pins match up to a Filco USB cable's Molex connector. So you could get the pinout from that, I would think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: megaforce on Tue, 09 July 2013, 16:28:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:38:23
    There's that little jumper cable that connects that USB daughter board to the controller. Couldn't you just plug that back in and see what color wires go on which pins?

    I only got the case from someone, so it didn't come with the cable.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:43:55

    Those pins match up to a Filco USB cable's Molex connector. So you could get the pinout from that, I would think.

    Thanks, I'll see if they match up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:01:59
    Quote from: megaforce93 on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:32:31
    Does anyone know the Pin out on the 4-Pin to mini USB converter chip on the QFR? Trying to solder a USB cable to it from my Phantom so I can use a detachable cable with the QFR case:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/pbFPVX2.jpg)


    (http://i.imgur.com/X80GVL2.jpg)

    Does this help?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: megaforce on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:17:02
    You are beautiful, beautiful man.

    Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:20:07
    Hehe, I'm in the process of harvesting switches from this QFR. You caught me at a great time megaforce93 :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:22:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:20:07
    Hehe, I'm in the process of harvesting switches from this QFR. You caught me at a great time megaforce93 :D

    Please tell me you're doing something with the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: megaforce on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:28:26
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:22:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:20:07
    Hehe, I'm in the process of harvesting switches from this QFR. You caught me at a great time megaforce93 :D

    Please tell me you're doing something with the PCB.

    He's gonna skin it, mash it, stick it in a stew.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:30:05
    Quote from: megaforce93 on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:28:26
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:22:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:20:07
    Hehe, I'm in the process of harvesting switches from this QFR. You caught me at a great time megaforce93 :D

    Please tell me you're doing something with the PCB.

    He's gonna skin it, mash it, stick it in a stew.

    I think he should cut it into small pieces and make QFR keychains.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:47:37
    The rest of the QFR besides the switches is the property of Missalaire's. I've been treating it like it was made of gold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 09 July 2013, 20:19:00
    I want to ergo clear mod my qfr w/mx reds.
    I know that after desoldering the old led's I would need to put in new ones.
    Could someone please help me find a link to a direct replacement for the existing red led's that are already in my qfr w/mx reds?
    preferably from mouser?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 20:20:15
    Why can't you use the old LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 09 July 2013, 20:29:28
    I thought that they would be a pain in the rear to put back in because I won't know which side is which. I know on a new led the longer lead is the + and the shorter one is the -
    I guess this is a simpler question then.
    if I am looking at the top of the switch housing at the led.... is the + the left side or the right ?

    I could then label it as I take it apart.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 20:37:24
    I used this picture (http://www.societyofrobots.com/images/electronics_led_diagram.png) to figure out the polarity of the LEDs in my Epsilon and KMAC. A simple Google search would've revealed this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 09 July 2013, 21:30:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 July 2013, 20:37:24
    I used this picture (http://www.societyofrobots.com/images/electronics_led_diagram.png) to figure out the polarity of the LEDs in my Epsilon and KMAC. A simple Google search would've revealed this.

    thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 10 July 2013, 13:43:28
    Does anyone know what kind of connector this is?

    (http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz112/georgeap2/IMG_0271copy.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 July 2013, 13:44:42
    PM TJ. He owns Mimic Cables now. ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Wed, 10 July 2013, 18:19:22
    I was at a local thrift store and found a black IBM electric typewriter with a gold label on it that says "IBM Fiftieth Anniversary". I think it's a Selectric III. I'll have more info tonight. I can't find anything on the Internet about a fiftieth anniversary IBM typewriter. Dunno what it's worth but I paid $8 for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 July 2013, 18:23:41
    If your question is how much the Selectric is worth remedyhalopc, this is the wrong thread for that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Wed, 10 July 2013, 18:27:14
    I'm just looking for more info. I don't particularly care how much it's worth, but if someone knows then cool beans.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 10 July 2013, 18:30:16
    this question might not belong here in geekhack, but i'll ask anyways, as the community here is so awesome :D

    does anyone know where i can get really nice cable sleeve extensions for my PSU? i'm sure i've seen someone selling those here, but i'm not sure whether they're for keyboards only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 July 2013, 18:41:12
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 10 July 2013, 18:30:16
    does anyone know where i can get really nice cable sleeve extensions for my PSU? i'm sure i've seen someone selling those here, but i'm not sure whether they're for keyboards only.

    (https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/996822_590127811008959_1007228743_n.jpg)

    You mean like this? Picture taken from Pexon's Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/PexonPCs). He sells them in his for sale/classifieds thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36970.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 10 July 2013, 19:17:34
    frozencpu.com sells them as well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 10 July 2013, 22:54:54
    Yeah whatever, just forget about it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:01:32
    There is a "How much is it worth" thread, which would be the proper place for this question
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: affect656 on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:51:04
    What board is this?

    (http://i.imgur.com/2qhZMDD.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:58:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:01:32
    There is a "How much is it worth" thread, which would be the proper place for this question

     :blank:

    Quote from: affect656 on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:51:04
    What board is this?

    Is that some kinda realforce?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: affect656 on Thu, 11 July 2013, 00:02:37
    Quote from: dnix on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:58:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:01:32
    There is a "How much is it worth" thread, which would be the proper place for this question

     :blank:

    Quote from: affect656 on Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:51:04
    What board is this?

    Yes, I just can't remember which one

    Is that some kinda realforce?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Thu, 11 July 2013, 02:05:46
    ^ looks like realforce hipro.



    Question: Is there a keyboard layout program I can use to mock up key cap sets like seen in group buy threads? I'm not talking about the Keyboard color chooser (http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#WA,NN,WA,NN) btw.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: affect656 on Thu, 11 July 2013, 02:12:24
    Quote from: calavera on Thu, 11 July 2013, 02:05:46
    ^ looks like realforce hipro.



    Question: Is there a keyboard layout program I can use to mock up key cap sets like seen in group buy threads? I'm not talking about the Keyboard color chooser (http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#WA,NN,WA,NN) btw.

    That's what it was, thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 July 2013, 06:31:42
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Wed, 10 July 2013, 18:19:22
    I was at a local thrift store and found a black IBM electric typewriter with a gold label on it that says "IBM Fiftieth Anniversary". I think it's a Selectric III. I'll have more info tonight. I can't find anything on the Internet about a fiftieth anniversary IBM typewriter. Dunno what it's worth but I paid $8 for it.

    From this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45680.0), rootwyrm provided this answer:

    Quote from: rootwyrm on Thu, 11 July 2013, 04:40:59
    It is.  (http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/golfballtypewritershop/message/404)


    Quote from: calavera on Thu, 11 July 2013, 02:05:46
    Question: Is there a keyboard layout program I can use to mock up key cap sets like seen in group buy threads? I'm not talking about the Keyboard color chooser (http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#WA,NN,WA,NN) btw.

    Maybe the blank layout that Kaporkle has in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39239.0) might help you calavera?

    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 10 July 2013, 13:43:28
    Does anyone know what kind of connector this is?

    Show Image
    (http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz112/georgeap2/IMG_0271copy.jpg)


    It is a Deutsch DT Series Connector. Answer was posted by TJ in the Mimic Cable thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36065.msg956340#msg956340).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 11 July 2013, 09:39:29
    In practice, how much does proper lubrication inhibit wearing in brand new switches without some initial friction?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 11 July 2013, 09:41:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 July 2013, 06:31:42
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 10 July 2013, 13:43:28
    Does anyone know what kind of connector this is?

    Show Image
    (http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz112/georgeap2/IMG_0271copy.jpg)


    It is a Deutsch DT Series Connector. Answer was posted by TJ in the Mimic Cable thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36065.msg956340#msg956340).
    Turns out it is in fact a Deutsch DTM Connector. Small difference, I know, but the DTM is smaller than the DT.

    Costs about $10 for a male+female plug. They use special wire-ends that can be crimped or soldered. The crimp tool costs loads and if you want pre-crimped wires they'll cost $30 for 4 (2ft).

    Apparently soldering it is dodgy too...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 July 2013, 09:58:09
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Thu, 11 July 2013, 09:39:29
    In practice, how much does proper lubrication inhibit wearing in brand new switches without some initial friction?

    I don't understand the question. Can you rephrase it?

    I think you're asking if lube will inhibit wear in new switches. If that's the case, lube reduces the wear but it will still have wear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 11 July 2013, 10:30:30
    I have brand new MX Clears with some friction.  I'll lube them right away before installing them, and I'm someone who hates friction (hence why I got vintage MX Blacks and my Browns are also super smooth), will they take quite a long time to wear down to smoothness with regular use as opposed to no lubing at all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 July 2013, 10:34:59
    You will probably get quicker results from lubing than waiting for the wear to happen. Unless I misunderstand how vintage switches work, they have had twenty years of usage to put wear on the switch parts which allows the switches to feel smoother.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:04:55
    I wonder if a polishing wheel on a dremel tool to the right portion of the stem might speed up this process?

    like this maybe? http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRYP5&P=FR

    then lubing afterwards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:07:13
    Definitely worth a shot but you'll have to figure out where the friction points in the switch are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:33:16
    I've been thinking about this exact thing (minus the dremel polishing wheel), but I've looked at switch parts under a large magnifying glass, and the roughness is very very fine.  You would need some very small sized tools too.  The friction would be from the side protrusions on the stem and the channels they slide along in the housing.  Also some from the front part of the stem.  I can't see being able to smooth those out successfully without altering or damaging switch parts by smoothing too much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Thu, 11 July 2013, 19:59:45
    I'm a noob.

    Do some keycaps come off easier than others? Like My F series keycaps come off  by lightly lifting them, while some of my qwerty keys need to use a lot more force to come off.

    Thanks :)

    Yes I have acute OCD


    Edit:

    Never mind answered my own question, I fail as a physics person.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 July 2013, 20:00:58
    Quote from: Meiosis on Thu, 11 July 2013, 19:59:45
    Do some keycaps come off easier than others? Like My F series keycaps come off  by lightly lifting them, while some of my qwerty keys need to use a lot more force to come off.

    Never had this issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Thu, 11 July 2013, 20:38:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 July 2013, 20:00:58
    Quote from: Meiosis on Thu, 11 July 2013, 19:59:45
    Do some keycaps come off easier than others? Like My F series keycaps come off  by lightly lifting them, while some of my qwerty keys need to use a lot more force to come off.

    Never had this issue.

    It's because when you use the keys more often the switch and the cap are pressed against each other and finally fill up. Since I never used F8 it was still not completely in :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:08:31
    Any specific questions I should be asking in my search for a good shop for powder coat?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:11:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 11 July 2013, 21:08:31
    Any specific questions I should be asking in my search for a good shop for powder coat?

    Talk to jdcarpe. He got his jdcarpurple case powder coated in order to get the colors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 11 July 2013, 22:27:51
    Is there one place in specific you could learn soldering from, if you don't have a physical class or place to go to and learn, what would it be? youtube? here on GH? any advice on where to start from scratch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:29:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 11 July 2013, 22:27:51
    Is there one place in specific you could learn soldering from, if you don't have a physical class or place to go to and learn, what would it be? youtube? here on GH? any advice on where to start from scratch?

    Are you in any way affiliated with a university / college?  There are usually Physics and Mechanical Engineering labs that would do soldering, and perhaps others.  You could also practice joining wires together and using heatshrink (perhaps tutorial videos on that on Youtube).     That would get you used to how solder melts, behaves, and the fine work that goes into soldering.  I'd only done wire joints before until my keyboard projects, and for the rest, I watched WhiteFireDragon's video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_2GxeR4Es) on switch swapping and read the Living Soldering Thread here.  If you have not already seen that video, it's long and very good, and you should watch it in its entirety :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:36:27
    Yes wfd has excellent videos on his channel, there's also the eevblog guy.

    Having good gear helps, there's a tip. I wish I had my fx-888 from the beginning, but learning on a crap iron definitely made me appreciate it more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:38:45
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:29:06
    Are you in any way affiliated with a university / college?  There are usually Physics and Mechanical Engineering labs that would do soldering, and perhaps others.  You could also practice joining wires together and using heatshrink (perhaps tutorial videos on that on Youtube).     That would get you used to how solder melts, behaves, and the fine work that goes into soldering.  I'd only done wire joints before until my keyboard projects, and for the rest, I watched WhiteFireDragon's video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_2GxeR4Es) on switch swapping and read the Living Soldering Thread here.  If you have not already seen that video, it's long and very good, and you should watch it in its entirety :D

    I live very close to a major ivy university but have minor connections and am not very involved with the school at all. no chance of me going there anyways next year haha

    I have seen a few of WFD's youtube videos, and i think it would be smart for myself to watch those that apply tomorrow. CPT directed me to the LIving Soldering Thread, so i should read through that as well.

    I go to a boarding school, so there are some maintenance guys i might be able to hit up who can help with this, but seeing as it's summer, i don't think they are around. There are some personal goals and plans i have that i want to be able to hit in and around september or so, so i want to get on this as soon as possible.

    sounds like tomorrow is going to be a research day haha. thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 12 July 2013, 12:46:01
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:38:45
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:29:06
    Are you in any way affiliated with a university / college?  There are usually Physics and Mechanical Engineering labs that would do soldering, and perhaps others.  You could also practice joining wires together and using heatshrink (perhaps tutorial videos on that on Youtube).     That would get you used to how solder melts, behaves, and the fine work that goes into soldering.  I'd only done wire joints before until my keyboard projects, and for the rest, I watched WhiteFireDragon's video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_2GxeR4Es) on switch swapping and read the Living Soldering Thread here.  If you have not already seen that video, it's long and very good, and you should watch it in its entirety :D

    I live very close to a major ivy university but have minor connections and am not very involved with the school at all. no chance of me going there anyways next year haha

    I have seen a few of WFD's youtube videos, and i think it would be smart for myself to watch those that apply tomorrow. CPT directed me to the LIving Soldering Thread, so i should read through that as well.

    I go to a boarding school, so there are some maintenance guys i might be able to hit up who can help with this, but seeing as it's summer, i don't think they are around. There are some personal goals and plans i have that i want to be able to hit in and around september or so, so i want to get on this as soon as possible.

    sounds like tomorrow is going to be a research day haha. thanks!

    check out his ergo clear mod video I found it very helpful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: storsjon on Fri, 12 July 2013, 13:40:11
    I have been thinking about purchasing a KBC Poker II. Since there is proof that the keyboard can remap its keys, does this mean I can change the Fn layer's directional key layout? For example, instead of on WASD, is it possible to have the directional keys on ESDF?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 13:42:49
    Quote from: storsjon on Fri, 12 July 2013, 13:40:11
    I have been thinking about purchasing a KBC Poker II. Since there is proof that the keyboard can remap its keys, does this mean I can change the Fn layer's directional key layout? For example, instead of on WASD, is it possible to have the directional keys on ESDF?

    I haven't looked at the manual but since it's programmable then yes. Check out the manual here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg903862#msg903862) and here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43232.msg884432#msg884432). More info on the Poker 2 can be found in WFD's review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:01:51
    No, the Poker II is only reprogrammable on the PN-layer. I don't think you can change the FN-layer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:03:16
    But regardless of the layer name you can still reprogram it right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:08:19
    Somewhat, I think you are limited to the keys on the actual keyboard. For example, I can't program F13~F24 on the keyboard. It's more of a macro layer than a programmable layer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:11:38
    I don't understand what F13-F24 are. Why would you need to program what isn't on the board? And if you're saying it's a macro layer, doesn't that imply that you can program keys that aren't on the board since that's what macros are?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:13:44
    Not sure if this is really the right place to ask but here goes:

    I'm flying to Hamburg on Sunday, I've never been anywhere on a plane before and my family aren't exactly well travelled or technology minded. Is it a bad idea to put my SLR (only taking one lens) in my hold luggage even if it's in a case (a pretty sturdy kata bag that it's been dropped in a few times and never been hurt)? I could maybe at a push fit it in my hand luggage but would be a tight squeeze.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:15:46
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:13:44
    Not sure if this is really the right place to ask but here goes:

    I'm flying to Hamburg on Sunday, I've never been anywhere on a plane before and my family aren't exactly well travelled or technology minded. Is it a bad idea to put my SLR (only taking one lens) in my hold luggage even if it's in a case (a pretty sturdy kata bag that it's been dropped in a few times and never been hurt)? I could maybe at a push fit it in my hand luggage but would be a tight squeeze.

    This is definitely the wrong place to ask this.

    Edit: I didn't mean to sound harsh but this thread should be keyboard related.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:15:47
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:13:44
    Not sure if this is really the right place to ask but here goes:

    I'm flying to Hamburg on Sunday, I've never been anywhere on a plane before and my family aren't exactly well travelled or technology minded. Is it a bad idea to put my SLR (only taking one lens) in my hold luggage even if it's in a case (a pretty sturdy kata bag that it's been dropped in a few times and never been hurt)? I could maybe at a push fit it in my hand luggage but would be a tight squeeze.

    always bring your  camera/laptop/electronics in your carry on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:17:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:11:38
    I don't understand what F13-F24 are. Why would you need to program what isn't on the board? And if you're saying it's a macro layer, doesn't that imply that you can program keys that aren't on the board since that's what macros are?

    Well not sure what most of the F-keys are for, but in Windows 8 there are key combinations that can be done with F21.
    Search = LShift+LWin+F21
    Share = LAlt+LWin+F21
    Devices = LControl+LWin+F21
    Settings = LWin+F21
    Being able to hit PN+1 (or another key) and getting one of those to pop up would be nice.

    Yea, by macro layer I meant you can't program keys that aren't on the keyboard. There is no software programmable option for the Poker and everything has to be done by clicking the keys on the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:18:47
    Quote from: Topre on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:17:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:11:38
    I don't understand what F13-F24 are. Why would you need to program what isn't on the board? And if you're saying it's a macro layer, doesn't that imply that you can program keys that aren't on the board since that's what macros are?

    Well not sure what most of the F-keys are for, but in Windows 8 there are key combinations that can be done with F21.
    Search = LShift+LWin+F21
    Share = LAlt+LWin+F21
    Devices = LControl+LWin+F21
    Settings = LWin+F21
    Being able to hit PN+1 (or another key) and getting one of those to pop up would be nice.

    Yea, by macro layer I meant you can't program keys that aren't on the keyboard. There is no software programmable option for the Poker and everything has to be done by clicking the keys on the keyboard.

    Ok thanks for the clarification. I don't use Windows 8 so I had no idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:20:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:18:47
    Quote from: Topre on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:17:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:11:38
    I don't understand what F13-F24 are. Why would you need to program what isn't on the board? And if you're saying it's a macro layer, doesn't that imply that you can program keys that aren't on the board since that's what macros are?

    Well not sure what most of the F-keys are for, but in Windows 8 there are key combinations that can be done with F21.
    Search = LShift+LWin+F21
    Share = LAlt+LWin+F21
    Devices = LControl+LWin+F21
    Settings = LWin+F21
    Being able to hit PN+1 (or another key) and getting one of those to pop up would be nice.

    Yea, by macro layer I meant you can't program keys that aren't on the keyboard. There is no software programmable option for the Poker and everything has to be done by clicking the keys on the keyboard.

    Ok thanks for the clarification. I don't use Windows 8 so I had no idea.

    Most people that use Windows 8 would have no idea too. I only found out about F21 by using my Touch Cover for the Surface, and that's how those keys worked.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:21:18
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:15:47
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:13:44
    Not sure if this is really the right place to ask but here goes:

    I'm flying to Hamburg on Sunday, I've never been anywhere on a plane before and my family aren't exactly well travelled or technology minded. Is it a bad idea to put my SLR (only taking one lens) in my hold luggage even if it's in a case (a pretty sturdy kata bag that it's been dropped in a few times and never been hurt)? I could maybe at a push fit it in my hand luggage but would be a tight squeeze.

    always bring your  camera/laptop/electronics in your carry on.


    ^^^ This. Don't let anything important to you out of your reach. Baggage handlers think it is their job to break everything in your checked luggage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:22:09
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:15:47
    always bring your  camera/laptop/electronics in your carry on.

    Righto, will just try and squeeze it in then..

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:15:46
    This is definitely the wrong place to ask this.
    And sorry, realise now that this thread is in the keyboard section. My mistake, assumed it was a general thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:23:00
    It's ok, I didn't mean for that to sound harsh but this should be keyboard related :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:26:32
    Quote from: Topre on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:17:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:11:38
    I don't understand what F13-F24 are. Why would you need to program what isn't on the board? And if you're saying it's a macro layer, doesn't that imply that you can program keys that aren't on the board since that's what macros are?

    Well not sure what most of the F-keys are for, but in Windows 8 there are key combinations that can be done with F21.
    Search = LShift+LWin+F21
    Share = LAlt+LWin+F21
    Devices = LControl+LWin+F21
    Settings = LWin+F21
    Being able to hit PN+1 (or another key) and getting one of those to pop up would be nice.

    Yea, by macro layer I meant you can't program keys that aren't on the keyboard. There is no software programmable option for the Poker and everything has to be done by clicking the keys on the keyboard.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/keyboard-shortcuts

    press the win key and release it then start typing to search

    win+ F = search charm <--edit:
    win + H = share
    win + k = devices
    win + i = Settings

    you should be able to program the keys with the normal shortcuts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:29:06
    Quote from: storsjon on Fri, 12 July 2013, 13:40:11
    I have been thinking about purchasing a KBC Poker II. Since there is proof that the keyboard can remap its keys, does this mean I can change the Fn layer's directional key layout? For example, instead of on WASD, is it possible to have the directional keys on ESDF?

    So it appears that there's an FN and PN layer and you can program the PN layer keys how you like. Definitely check out those manuals though.

    A better answer was provided by Binge: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.msg958313#msg958313
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:30:39
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:26:32
    Quote from: Topre on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:17:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:11:38
    I don't understand what F13-F24 are. Why would you need to program what isn't on the board? And if you're saying it's a macro layer, doesn't that imply that you can program keys that aren't on the board since that's what macros are?

    Well not sure what most of the F-keys are for, but in Windows 8 there are key combinations that can be done with F21.
    Search = LShift+LWin+F21
    Share = LAlt+LWin+F21
    Devices = LControl+LWin+F21
    Settings = LWin+F21
    Being able to hit PN+1 (or another key) and getting one of those to pop up would be nice.

    Yea, by macro layer I meant you can't program keys that aren't on the keyboard. There is no software programmable option for the Poker and everything has to be done by clicking the keys on the keyboard.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/keyboard-shortcuts

    press the win key and release it then start typing to search

    win+ F = search charm <--edit:
    win + H = share
    win + k = devices
    win + i = Settings

    you should be able to program the keys with the normal shortcuts.

    Now I see it, thanks. Not sure why Microsoft decided to use F21 on their keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:34:46
    there is always more then one way to do the same thing in windows :)
    I am glad I could help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:35:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:23:00
    It's ok, I didn't mean for that to sound harsh but this should be keyboard related :D

    No worries, was my mistake anyways. On a keyboard related note, looks like I'm going to be without mine for 2 months of programming then :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:43:01
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 11 July 2013, 22:27:51
    Is there one place in specific you could learn soldering from, if you don't have a physical class or place to go to and learn, what would it be? youtube? here on GH? any advice on where to start from scratch?

    I don't think that they would have a class on soldering seeing as it's quite simple in terms of why it works.

    The solder itself is conductive and pretty much liquid wiring until cooled down which then connects the two wires, or the switch to the pcb.

    You hold the solder at pcb point to melt it and join the two points you need, think of it like a line of electricity, but in the end it needs to go in a circle.


    Basically a liquid wire, that allows the circuit to be completed, you need to control the speed or else you might burn something, or the solder is impure if not completely melted.

    Completing the circuit :x.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 13 July 2013, 01:08:19
    Is there any way to clean fingerprints off of anodized aluminum?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Sat, 13 July 2013, 01:58:50
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sat, 13 July 2013, 01:08:19
    Is there any way to clean fingerprints off of anodized aluminum?

    Have you tried rubbing alcohol?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: smknjoe on Sat, 13 July 2013, 02:12:04
    Quote from: Meiosis on Fri, 12 July 2013, 16:43:01
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 11 July 2013, 22:27:51
    Is there one place in specific you could learn soldering from, if you don't have a physical class or place to go to and learn, what would it be? youtube? here on GH? any advice on where to start from scratch?

    I don't think that they would have a class on soldering seeing as it's quite simple in terms of why it works.

    The solder itself is conductive and pretty much liquid wiring until cooled down which then connects the two wires, or the switch to the pcb.

    You hold the solder at pcb point to melt it and join the two points you need, think of it like a line of electricity, but in the end it needs to go in a circle.


    Basically a liquid wire, that allows the circuit to be completed, you need to control the speed or else you might burn something, or the solder is impure if not completely melted.

    Completing the circuit :x.

    I think Dubs is more interested in technique. This tutorial series is really dated but it goes over the fundamentals quite well.

    Practice on anything you can find that you don't mind destroying.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: khaangaaroo on Sat, 13 July 2013, 11:35:26
    Does anyone know what these black, horseshoe-looking rings that come with Topre boards are for? I thought they were for locking keys to prevent actuation, but it doesn't seem to fit.

    (http://i.imgur.com/44UB8tU.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/44UB8tU.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 13 July 2013, 18:57:51
    Noob question incoming.

    On the bottom row of this here PCB there are two spots where you can insert the switches.  Which spots are for what layout?

    http://i.imgur.com/53HCo0q.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 13 July 2013, 19:03:00
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sat, 13 July 2013, 18:57:51
    Noob question incoming.

    On the bottom row of this here PCB there are two spots where you can insert the switches.  Which spots are for what layout?

    http://i.imgur.com/53HCo0q.jpg

    It looks like you can have variable modifier width there.  Maybe something like 1.25x 1.25x 1.25x 6.25x etc.  or 1.5x 1x 1.5x ... You can probably put modifier keycaps of your choice onto sample switches and figure out which positions make them all fit widthwise.  That'd be the crude way of doing it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 13 July 2013, 19:03:30
    Closer to the left for 86, closer to the right for 87 (on the left 3) and vise versa on the right 3.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 13 July 2013, 19:25:22
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 13 July 2013, 19:03:30
    Closer to the left for 86, closer to the right for 87 (on the left 3) and vise versa on the right 3.

    I think you got it backwards. Closer to the left on the left three for 87, and vice versa on the right, using four switches on the right and off-center 6.25 spacebar.

    For 86 key layout, use the holes closer to the right on the left side switch holes, and vice versa for the three switch holes on the right. With a 7-unit spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 13 July 2013, 19:32:39
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 13 July 2013, 19:25:22
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 13 July 2013, 19:03:30
    Closer to the left for 86, closer to the right for 87 (on the left 3) and vise versa on the right 3.

    I think you got it backwards. Closer to the left on the left three for 87, and vice versa on the right, using four switches on the right and off-center 6.25 spacebar.

    For 86 key layout, use the holes closer to the right on the left side switch holes, and vice versa for the three switch holes on the right. With a 7-unit spacebar.

    **** you're right. I don't know how I got that wrong because I literally looked at my board and I guess my excuse is English isn't my first language
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 13 July 2013, 20:22:12
    No worries. I'm sure you would have caught it later. I have just looked at the GH60 PCB enough that I'm familiar with the layouts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 13 July 2013, 20:24:30
    I've played with only a few Korean pcbs :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 14 July 2013, 03:32:28
    Does anyone know where in US I can get some LEDs for keyboard? Or any key word I can search for on Ebay. Big thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 14 July 2013, 03:45:39
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Sun, 14 July 2013, 03:32:28
    Does anyone know where in US I can get some LEDs for keyboard? Or any key word I can search for on Ebay. Big thanks!

    Look for 2x3x4mm water clear leds on eBay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 14 July 2013, 09:20:01
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 14 July 2013, 03:45:39
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Sun, 14 July 2013, 03:32:28
    Does anyone know where in US I can get some LEDs for keyboard? Or any key word I can search for on Ebay. Big thanks!

    Look for 2x3x4mm water clear leds on eBay.

    Gotcha!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Sun, 14 July 2013, 09:28:19
    Why are MX reds out of production? Also is there really a MX white switch now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 14 July 2013, 09:32:11
    Quote from: Meiosis on Sun, 14 July 2013, 09:28:19
    Why are MX reds out of production? Also is there really a MX white switch now?

    MX Reds out of production? I'm surprised.

    Yes, there is MX white. Right here, in stock. http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=210

    I could be wrong though. I am kind of confused with white and clear. I vaguely remember that in China MX white switch is called "milk" and clear switch is "white".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:34:50
    Quote from: Meiosis on Sun, 14 July 2013, 09:28:19
    Why are MX reds out of production? Also is there really a MX white switch now?

    There have been Whites for a while. They're heavy tactile, muffled audible feedback switches.  They're just very uncommon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:40:54
    heavy tactile? The whites are just clicky like blues with heavier springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:42:32
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:34:50
    Quote from: Meiosis on Sun, 14 July 2013, 09:28:19
    1) Why are MX reds out of production?
    2) Also is there really a MX white switch now?

    3) There have been Whites for a while. They're heavy tactile, muffled audible feedback switches.  They're just very uncommon.

    1) They're not?
    2) Yes
    3) They're clicky switches with a muffled click and heavy. Not tactile.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:49:49
    Quote from: calavera on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:40:54
    heavy tactile? The whites are just clicky like blues with heavier springs.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:42:32
    1) They're not?
    2) Yes
    3) They're clicky switches with a muffled click and heavy. Not tactile.

    They are tactile switches, they're tactile with a muffled click. Tactility refers to the feedback you feel on your fingertips and nothing more.  Blues, Greens, and Whites are all tactile switches, they're just clicky (or audible) as well as tactile.  Clicky is the descriptor for the audible feedback Blues and Greens give and the muffled click Whites have.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:52:57
    Convention says that we call those switches "Clicky" while we say "Tactile" for Brown and Clears. That's all. I agree with what you mean but that's the convention the keyboard community has come up with so that's what I'm going to continue to use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:56:45
    Whites blue and greens are all 'clicky switches'
    Browns grey and clears are all 'tactile switches'

    All have a tactile bump, some more pronounced them others, while only the 'clicky switches' have a click and a bump, wheras the 'tactile switches' only have the bump.

    Dat bump
    Dat MX clear bump  ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 14 July 2013, 13:00:36
    By the way, is there a typing video with MX Whites? There is one mixed with MX Browns but I think it's just the spacebar with a MX White switch. I want to try something clicky but blues are just too loud and I was wondering if whites would be something for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 July 2013, 13:02:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 14 July 2013, 13:00:36
    By the way, is there a typing video with MX Whites? There is one mixed with MX Browns but I think it's just the spacebar with a MX White switch. I want to try something clicky but blues are just too loud and I was wondering if whites would be something for me.

    Try searching YouTube?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 14 July 2013, 13:20:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 July 2013, 13:02:03
    Try searching YouTube?
    I did, I only found the video with the MX White spacebar. There's also two short videos of somebody comparing a single white switch with a single blue, but that didn't help that much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 14 July 2013, 14:54:15
    Cherry MX switch tester comparison
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 14 July 2013, 16:13:29
    Doesn't have whites :( Guess I will just buy some and try it out myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 14 July 2013, 16:21:27
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 14 July 2013, 16:13:29
    Doesn't have whites :( Guess I will just buy some and try it out myself.

    here is a keychain. I have one of these.
    http://www.qwerkeys.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=60&product_id=63
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:18:39
    I ordered a TG3 Data911 Backlit Keyboard w/ Touchpad M2C-TG3-TP from ebay yesterday to farm black mx switches from...

    what size is the spacebar? I am curious because I would like to reuse the cherry plate mount space bar stabilizer on another project...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 06:44:49
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:18:39
    what size is the spacebar? I am curious because I would like to reuse the cherry plate mount space bar stabilizer on another project...

    I'm guessing from these pictures (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20454.0) that the spacebar is 6x but I can't really tell. You can always order the stabilizers from Mouser as an alternative source.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:09:14
    Anyone wanna give me some help with these PCB mounted cherry stabs?  I can't get the front pin thing all the way in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:12:15
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:09:14
    Anyone wanna give me some help with these PCB mounted cherry stabs?  I can't get the front pin thing all the way in.

    Force it? That's how I got the mounts to fit on my KMAC PCB. Put the first legs into the smaller holes on the PCB then put some pressure on until they fit into the larger holes in the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:13:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:12:15
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:09:14
    Anyone wanna give me some help with these PCB mounted cherry stabs?  I can't get the front pin thing all the way in.

    Force it? That's how I got the mounts to fit on my KMAC PCB. Put the first legs into the larger holes on the PCB then put some pressure on until they fit into the smaller holes in the PCB.

    FTFY.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:15:50
    Hm. That explains why it was hard. I just kept forcing a reasonable amount of pressure until everything sat right. Then I yelled at my KMAC PCB for giving me a hard time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:16:01
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:13:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:12:15
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:09:14
    Anyone wanna give me some help with these PCB mounted cherry stabs?  I can't get the front pin thing all the way in.

    Force it? That's how I got the mounts to fit on my KMAC PCB. Put the first legs into the larger holes on the PCB then put some pressure on until they fit into the smaller holes in the PCB.

    FTFY.
    Wait wtf the wire has to face the front doesn't it?  The smaller holes are 1st on mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:17:07
    Wire faces the bottom of the board. So all the wires should make a U with the two tips facing the function row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:18:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:17:07
    Wire faces the bottom of the board. So all the wires should make a U with the two tips facing the function row.
    Yeah that is what I thought.  You were right then CPT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:17:07
    Wire faces the bottom of the board. So all the wires should make a U with the two tips facing the function row.

    Not necessarily. On a Poker it doesn't; the wire part sits under the zxcvb row. It just depends on how the PCB designer made them. The stab wires can face in either direction, depending on which way the holes are on the PCB.

    MKULTRA, which board are we talking about, specifically?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:11:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 06:44:49
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 00:18:39
    what size is the spacebar? I am curious because I would like to reuse the cherry plate mount space bar stabilizer on another project...

    I'm guessing from these pictures (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20454.0) that the spacebar is 6x but I can't really tell. You can always order the stabilizers from Mouser as an alternative source.

    this is from the OP
    Quote
    Where can I buy new wire stabilizers?
    WASDKeyboards has them.

    Would you please kind sir update the OP with links to stabilizers other then wasd's costar plate mount stabilizers? It is one of the most commonly asked questions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:14:44
    Deal, but you have to find my post on the part numbers for Mouser :P

    The part numbers already in the OP. I forgot. I'll add sources/websites later.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:25:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 18:42:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 July 2013, 20:43:35
    So this (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0G990224virtualkey54010000virtualkey540-G99-0224) Cherry Plate Mounted Stabilizers from Mouser.

    What is the part number at Mouser for PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers?

    I'm double posting and answering my own question. Binge found the Cherry Datasheet which has info on the stabilized keys. Link for the sheet is here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/75eoa1a2k2l6lb5/Cherry%20Stabilizer%20and%20Datasheet.pdf).

    Part numbers for the stabilizer:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/rvVER43.png)


    Frame = Plate Mounted
    w/o frame = PCB Mounted


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:28:45
    what would I need for the spacebar stab?
    just a 6.25 wire? are they on mouser also?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:30:58
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:28:45
    what would I need for the spacebar stab?
    just a 6.25 wire? are they on mouser also?

    I don't know of anywhere you can purchase a 6-unit spacebar wire. Or a 6.25-unit one, either. You may have to bend your own for that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:33:46
    here is the youtube video of how to do that if it can help others in this thread...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:34:20
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:28:45
    1) what would I need for the spacebar stab?
    2) just a 6.25 wire? are they on mouser also?

    1) Not sure what you mean
    2) I'm pretty sure just the Cherry wires can be found on Mouser. If not, just buy the set...it's only $.50. Issue is that the Mouser spacebar wires are 8x so you'll have to bend your own. I haven't found a source for Cherry stabilizer wire in 6.25x sizing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: khaangaaroo on Mon, 15 July 2013, 15:30:05
    Bump for this question here:

    Quote from: khaangaaroo on Sat, 13 July 2013, 11:35:26
    Does anyone know what these black, horseshoe-looking rings that come with Topre boards are for? I thought they were for locking keys to prevent actuation, but it doesn't seem to fit.

    (http://i.imgur.com/44UB8tU.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/44UB8tU.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 15:32:03
    I say this in the OP but can you please not bump your questions in the future?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 15 July 2013, 16:58:20
    Can anybody verify the "true" color of the casing on a white FC700R? The case looks pure white in some pictures but more of a cream white in others. I've also noticed some cases have a Leopold logo like filcos, is that an older version of the 700R?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 16:59:47
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 15 July 2013, 16:58:20
    I've also noticed some cases have a Leopold logo like filcos, is that an older version of the 700R?

    FWIW, my 700R has a Serial Number of 203 and it doesn't have any branding/logo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:03:35
    Every 700r in Korea I've seen has the logo on it. Don't think I've seen one outside of Korea that has one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:04:49
    Quote from: khaangaaroo on Mon, 15 July 2013, 15:30:05
    Bump for this question here:

    Show Image
    Quote from: khaangaaroo on Sat, 13 July 2013, 11:35:26
    Does anyone know what these black, horseshoe-looking rings that come with Topre boards are for? I thought they were for locking keys to prevent actuation, but it doesn't seem to fit.

    (http://i.imgur.com/44UB8tU.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/44UB8tU.jpg)

    Alaric told me it's so you can disable winkey or other keys. It's a physical stop.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:18:22
    Any idea what this could be?

    (http://abload.de/img/t2ec16rhjiufhhr2cflqbq9kbr.jpg)

    Might not actually buy it as I recently bought this foldable mechanical and a G80-11800, but would information about this board would nevertheless be interesting (usual stuff, switches, keycaps, you know).
    Sorry the small pic, it's a Hewlett Packard keyboard manufactured in year 1991.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:23:30
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:18:22
    Any idea what this could be?

    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/t2ec16rhjiufhhr2cflqbq9kbr.jpg)


    Might not actually buy it as I recently bought this foldable mechanical and a G80-11800, but would information about this board would nevertheless be interesting (usual stuff, switches, keycaps, you know).
    Sorry the small pic, it's a Hewlett Packard keyboard manufactured in year 1991.
    Most likely rubberdome, especially if it's a consumer HP, they started to switch over pretty early on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 July 2013, 18:34:50
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:17:07
    Wire faces the bottom of the board. So all the wires should make a U with the two tips facing the function row.

    Not necessarily. On a Poker it doesn't; the wire part sits under the zxcvb row. It just depends on how the PCB designer made them. The stab wires can face in either direction, depending on which way the holes are on the PCB.

    MKULTRA, which board are we talking about, specifically?
    a.87 ps2avr
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 15 July 2013, 18:39:44
    Then all your larger holes should be closer to the bottom of the PCB with the exception of the Enter key. That's the only stab that should be like an upside down U.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 16 July 2013, 01:21:16
    So I'm assembling my new GON kbd right.  And everything is going splendid besides this damn spacebar.  I was retarded and didn't test it until i soldered half of the damn switches onto the PCB and then I tested the spacebar and realized that it doesn't work.  Something is wrong with the stabs.  Like you press down the spacebar and they don't come all the way up.  Also they are making a clicking noise which I found unusual.  Any way to fix it without de-soldering all of these switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 16 July 2013, 02:16:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:12:15
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:09:14
    Anyone wanna give me some help with these PCB mounted cherry stabs?  I can't get the front pin thing all the way in.
    Force it? That's how I got the mounts to fit on my KMAC PCB. Put the first legs into the smaller holes on the PCB then put some pressure on until they fit into the larger holes in the PCB.

    lol you're doing it wrong. There should be zero pressure for the large hole. The larger round part of the stab is designed in a way that it hooks into the PCB, no pressed in. The smaller hole is pressed in a little pressure.


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:17:07
    Wire faces the bottom of the board. So all the wires should make a U with the two tips facing the function row.

    I know jd already mentioned this, but just to reiterate again. Orientation of the wire is dependent on the PCB holes if you're using PCB-mounted stabs. The larger hole is always where the wire should be, and this can vary between different PCBs. If you're using plate-mounted stabs, then it's dependent on the plate's cutout. In this case, the wire is always on the opposite side of where the flaps sticking out.


    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:30:58
    I don't know of anywhere you can purchase a 6-unit spacebar wire. Or a 6.25-unit one, either. You may have to bend your own for that.

    I've looked for a long time, and 6.25x cherry sizes cannot be bought anywhere. At least not in the US. I even emailed cherry directly, and they said loose stabilizers with 6.25x does not have a part number and can't be bought, even directly through them. This is rather odd, because so many modern keyboards use 6.25x sizes, so I'm assuming it's only made for complete keyboards.

    There is a local place to me that can custom make any wire or spring from a CNC wire machine, but it's not cheap.


    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 16 July 2013, 01:21:16
    So I'm assembling my new GON kbd right.  And everything is going splendid besides this damn spacebar.  I was retarded and didn't test it until i soldered half of the damn switches onto the PCB and then I tested the spacebar and realized that it doesn't work.  Something is wrong with the stabs.  Like you press down the spacebar and they don't come all the way up.  Also they are making a clicking noise which I found unusual.  Any way to fix it without de-soldering all of these switches?

    If they don't come up all the way, then it's probably because something is rubbing where it's not suppose to. Where did you get the wire? I have a stabilizer set from GON, and the spacebar wire was not made correctly. Cherry wires must be made to almost exact specs, otherwise the plastic pieces will either rub, or not move at all.

    edit: Every plate so far won't allow you to remove PCB-mounted stabilizers without desoldering every switch and removing the plate. Had this been plate-mounted cherry stabilizers, all you would have to do is desolder only that one switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 July 2013, 06:27:48
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 16 July 2013, 02:16:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:12:15
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:09:14
    Anyone wanna give me some help with these PCB mounted cherry stabs?  I can't get the front pin thing all the way in.
    Force it? That's how I got the mounts to fit on my KMAC PCB. Put the first legs into the smaller holes on the PCB then put some pressure on until they fit into the larger holes in the PCB.

    lol you're doing it wrong. There should be zero pressure for the large hole. The larger round part of the stab is designed in a way that it hooks into the PCB, no pressed in. The smaller hole is pressed in a little pressure.


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 July 2013, 11:17:07
    Wire faces the bottom of the board. So all the wires should make a U with the two tips facing the function row.

    I know jd already mentioned this, but just to reiterate again. Orientation of the wire is dependent on the PCB holes if you're using PCB-mounted stabs. The larger hole is always where the wire should be, and this can vary between different PCBs. If you're using plate-mounted stabs, then it's dependent on the plate's cutout. In this case, the wire is always on the opposite side of where the flaps sticking out.

    Yup, you're right. I messed up assembling the Cherry PCB stabilizers last night and looked at the holes more carefully. The PCB mounted stabilizers have two different legs: a leg with a latch/flat on it and a leg that looks like a peg. The leg/flat goes into the larger diameter hole and then the peg should snap in easily.

    And on my KMAC, all the stabilizers "U" openings faced away from the spacebar except for the one on the enter. I was being told that the Poker has one of the shifts and enter flipped so the openings face the spacebar. Like you said, it all depends.

    Hooray for learning ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: emptythecache on Tue, 16 July 2013, 07:30:40
    I'm getting ready to assembly my a.87 (not ps2avr, usb version) and on the LED supporting keys, there is not an extra set of holes for the LED resistors. Do I not put switching diodes on these keys? or do I have to use an SMD diode AND the resistor?

    (http://i.imgur.com/v9RAo8f.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 July 2013, 08:02:21
    Quote from: emptythecache on Tue, 16 July 2013, 07:30:40
    I'm getting ready to assembly my a.87 (not ps2avr, usb version) and on the LED supporting keys, there is not an extra set of holes for the LED resistors. Do I not put switching diodes on these keys? or do I have to use an SMD diode AND the resistor?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/v9RAo8f.jpg)


    On my KMAC, the LED resistors are SMD and pick-and-placed into place by the SMT machine. In other words, they were already on the board and I only needed to put the LEDs into place and then solder the switch diode in the diode area/holes. Check the reverse side of your PCB just to check but I'd wait until another A.87 owner chimes in to confirm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: emptythecache on Tue, 16 July 2013, 09:13:54
    I think I can just put resistors in those spots, because the purpose of the diodes is NKRO right? I don't need to accept a C/L or S/L signal at the same time as other keys. Can anyone verify that's the purpose of diodes or there is there some other reason I did that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 July 2013, 09:24:54
    Quote from: emptythecache on Tue, 16 July 2013, 09:13:54
    I think I can just put resistors in those spots, because the purpose of the diodes is NKRO right? I don't need to accept a C/L or S/L signal at the same time as other keys. Can anyone verify that's the purpose of diodes or there is there some other reason I did that?

    I've been told multiple times that diodes are there to control the flow of electricity and not NKRO. I've just been told this though and I don't know the actual answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 16 July 2013, 09:35:55
    Diode for NKRO, jumper for 2KRO. If it needs something connected there one way or another to function. Or at least this is how it is on G80, I would assume others too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 July 2013, 09:36:45
    Thanks for clarification Lysol :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 16 July 2013, 10:44:36
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 16 July 2013, 02:16:01
    0
    If they don't come up all the way, then it's probably because something is rubbing where it's not suppose to. Where did you get the wire? I have a stabilizer set from GON, and the spacebar wire was not made correctly. Cherry wires must be made to almost exact specs, otherwise the plastic pieces will either rub, or not move at all.

    edit: Every plate so far won't allow you to remove PCB-mounted stabilizers without desoldering every switch and removing the plate. Had this been plate-mounted cherry stabilizers, all you would have to do is desolder only that one switch.
    Yeah GON plate only allows PCB mount :/

    I got the stabs from Lysol.  The wire does appear to be rubbing up against the plate and doing funky stuff im general.  Where can I get a new wire?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 July 2013, 10:48:22
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 16 July 2013, 10:44:36
    Yeah GON plate only allows PCB mount :/

    I got the stabs from Lysol.  The wire does appear to be rubbing up against the plate and doing funky stuff im general.  Where can I get a new wire?

    Check the OP. I just updated it with some info on this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 16 July 2013, 10:51:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 July 2013, 10:48:22
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 16 July 2013, 10:44:36
    Yeah GON plate only allows PCB mount :/

    I got the stabs from Lysol.  The wire does appear to be rubbing up against the plate and doing funky stuff im general.  Where can I get a new wire?

    Check the OP. I just updated it with some info on this.
    Ouch gotta bend my own.  Will check it out after I get home from work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 16 July 2013, 14:20:12
    Quote from: emptythecache on Tue, 16 July 2013, 09:13:54
    I think I can just put resistors in those spots, because the purpose of the diodes is NKRO right? I don't need to accept a C/L or S/L signal at the same time as other keys. Can anyone verify that's the purpose of diodes or there is there some other reason I did that?

    No, you can't put a resistor in place of the diode spot. The resistor for that LED is located near the controller area, not right next to the LED. Most boards are built this way, where all the electronics components (except diodes) are grouped together somewhere.

    If you have to solder in a single resistor and don't have a SMD one, you can solder in the the leads laying down flat to the SMD pad. Make sure that resistor is positioned so it doesn't interfere with any other components, and clip the excess lead off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 17 July 2013, 13:50:14
    I have opened a new thread as a [Professional Services] - Directory
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886

    I thought it might be useful to have in the OP of this thread for people asking who offers what services....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 July 2013, 18:34:27
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 17 July 2013, 13:50:14
    I have opened a new thread as a [Professional Services] - Directory
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886

    I thought it might be useful to have in the OP of this thread for people asking who offers what services....

    As long as you update that thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 17 July 2013, 23:59:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 July 2013, 18:34:27
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 17 July 2013, 13:50:14
    I have opened a new thread as a [Professional Services] - Directory
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886

    I thought it might be useful to have in the OP of this thread for people asking who offers what services....

    As long as you update that thread.

    I will as long as the community will continue to have me here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 18 July 2013, 00:12:05
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 17 July 2013, 23:59:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 July 2013, 18:34:27
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 17 July 2013, 13:50:14
    I have opened a new thread as a [Professional Services] - Directory
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886

    I thought it might be useful to have in the OP of this thread for people asking who offers what services....

    As long as you update that thread.

    I will as long as the community will continue to have me here.

    Well then, sorry but....









    Looks like you're gonna have to keep updating that thread ^_^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pchp on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:06:32
    What is the weight of IBM Model F keyboard?
    I want to buy one but I need that data for the international shipment.
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:10:44
    Quote from: pchp on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:06:32
    What is the weight of IBM Model F keyboard?

    According to this link/review (http://www.epiguru.com/2012/09/ibm-model-f-pc-at-keyboard-my-daily-driver/) the weight of an AT F is 2.8 kg or 6.2 lbs. What model F are you looking to buy exactly? Common Model Fs are XT and AT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: deazncy on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:14:57
    Is it possible to mod the poker ii's stabilizer to fit in a pure alu case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:17:13
    Quote from: deazncy on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:14:57
    Is it possible to mod the poker ii's stabilizer to fit in a pure alu case?

    What is wrong with the stabilizers? The Pure alu case is low profile so it shouldn't really be interfering with the case at all. Even if it wasn't low profile I don't see how the stabilizers would get in the way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: deazncy on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:26:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:17:13
    Quote from: deazncy on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:14:57
    Is it possible to mod the poker ii's stabilizer to fit in a pure alu case?

    What is wrong with the stabilizers? The Pure alu case is low profile so it shouldn't really be interfering with the case at all. Even if it wasn't low profile I don't see how the stabilizers would get in the way.

    The tabs that hold the wire for the spacebar stabilizers protrude, making it difficult to fit it in the case without damaging it. I was wondering if there was a mod to make it fit in the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pchp on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:42:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:10:44
    Quote from: pchp on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:06:32
    What is the weight of IBM Model F keyboard?

    According to this link/review (http://www.epiguru.com/2012/09/ibm-model-f-pc-at-keyboard-my-daily-driver/) the weight of an AT F is 2.8 kg or 6.2 lbs. What model F are you looking to buy exactly? Common Model Fs are XT and AT.
    Thanks for reply
    That's heavy! I have to pay 20 dollars for each kg. I'm looking for a xt
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:42:42
    have a look at this video.
    is it this portion that is being cut off that rubs?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:44:05
    Quote from: domoaligato on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:42:42
    have a look at this video.
    is it this portion that is being cut off that rubs?

    I think that portion comes in contact with the PCB and dampens it.

    I've tried this mod on plate mount Cherry stabs and it does nothing since those parts don't ever come in contact with anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:44:55
    oh ok... lame.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:21:57
    Quote from: deazncy on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:26:29
    The tabs that hold the wire for the spacebar stabilizers protrude, making it difficult to fit it in the case without damaging it. I was wondering if there was a mod to make it fit in the case.

    I honestly have no idea. WhiteFireDragon should be able to answer your question though. You can wait here for his reply if he sees this, ask in his Poker 2 Review thread, or PM him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:41:52
    What type of diodes do I need for these pcbs? Kitty pad and 38gt from gon.
    Are diodes even required?

    (http://i.imgur.com/M0772o5.jpg?1)(http://i.imgur.com/f8YEyXP.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:45:50
    Looks like they let you do either SMD diodes or through hole diodes if you want to do it that way.  I'm more confused by the SMD spots and two sets of holes at the base of the switch.  It seems like you maybe can do SMD LEDs and stock Cherry diodes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 18 July 2013, 21:07:37
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:45:50
    Looks like they let you do either SMD diodes or through hole diodes if you want to do it that way.  I'm more confused by the SMD spots and two sets of holes at the base of the switch.  It seems like you maybe can do SMD LEDs and stock Cherry diodes?

    I think you are correct tho nubs, I was thinking the same thing.

    I asked GON as well and he said :

    Quote
    You need 1N4148 Diodes DIP or SMD(I use DIPs only.).

    So both are possible, and I'm guessing the extra holes are for stock cherry diodes (in switch diodes?) or for dual LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 July 2013, 21:22:32
    Quote from: codyeatworld on Thu, 18 July 2013, 21:07:37
    So both are possible, and I'm guessing the extra holes are for stock cherry diodes (in switch diodes?) or for dual LEDs.

    Looks like you can put diodes direct on the board or in-switch them like you said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 18 July 2013, 21:23:21
    Y U so new?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 July 2013, 21:25:06
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 18 July 2013, 21:23:21
    Y U so new?

    I blame you. Why didn't you tell me about this place before?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 18 July 2013, 21:26:51
    I'm sorry... v(T_Tv)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 19 July 2013, 01:06:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:21:57
    Quote from: deazncy on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:26:29
    The tabs that hold the wire for the spacebar stabilizers protrude, making it difficult to fit it in the case without damaging it. I was wondering if there was a mod to make it fit in the case.
    I honestly have no idea. WhiteFireDragon should be able to answer your question though. You can wait here for his reply if he sees this, ask in his Poker 2 Review thread, or PM him.

    I've been summoned. You can file the lower part sticking out, or the case. Recommended to file the stabilizers since those are replaceable if you mess up, the case is not.

    And no, litster's video does not apply here. Clipping those stabilizer pins is to make them feel more crisp, not for case fitment.


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    Quote from: codyeatworld on Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:41:52
    What type of diodes do I need for these pcbs? Kitty pad and 38gt from gon.

    (http://i.imgur.com/M0772o5.jpg?1) (http://i.imgur.com/M0772o5.jpg?1)
    (http://i.imgur.com/f8YEyXP.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/f8YEyXP.jpg)

    There are 3 ways to mount the diodes: inswitch, SMD, and through-hole. THESE (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fairchild-Semiconductor/1N4148/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMudZehw8RjeZWbu6z6oTQTL) are the through-hole ones you'd want, and THESE (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Diodes-Inc/1N4148W-7-F/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhvdRTUMUAPE14rbiTQwObSH%2f8%2f%252bbwjgcXLOnu4Bxk5XQ%3d%3d) are SMD ones that I personally use for all korean builds. I bought a whole reel so have about 2k left. Those SMD ones I linked can be used on every Korean keyboard, as well as ergodox. Other keyboards use different SMD diodes. Size and soldering of diode just linked, as well as other SMD diode types:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpj3tilIaik&feature=share&list=PL00EjuPMbgnJjsuSKyX9OkrKG2NvuHzgX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpj3tilIaik&feature=share&list=PL00EjuPMbgnJjsuSKyX9OkrKG2NvuHzgX)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 July 2013, 06:04:09
    Hey it worked! Thanks WhiteFireDragon!  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: deazncy on Fri, 19 July 2013, 15:07:11
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 19 July 2013, 01:06:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:21:57
    Quote from: deazncy on Thu, 18 July 2013, 17:26:29
    The tabs that hold the wire for the spacebar stabilizers protrude, making it difficult to fit it in the case without damaging it. I was wondering if there was a mod to make it fit in the case.
    I honestly have no idea. WhiteFireDragon should be able to answer your question though. You can wait here for his reply if he sees this, ask in his Poker 2 Review thread, or PM him.

    I've been summoned. You can file the lower part sticking out, or the case. Recommended to file the stabilizers since those are replaceable if you mess up, the case is not.

    And no, litster's video does not apply here. Clipping those stabilizer pins is to make them feel more crisp, not for case fitment.


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    Quote from: codyeatworld on Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:41:52
    What type of diodes do I need for these pcbs? Kitty pad and 38gt from gon.

    (http://i.imgur.com/M0772o5.jpg?1) (http://i.imgur.com/M0772o5.jpg?1)
    (http://i.imgur.com/f8YEyXP.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/f8YEyXP.jpg)

    There are 3 ways to mount the diodes: inswitch, SMD, and through-hole. THESE (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fairchild-Semiconductor/1N4148/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMudZehw8RjeZWbu6z6oTQTL) are the through-hole ones you'd want, and THESE (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Diodes-Inc/1N4148W-7-F/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhvdRTUMUAPE14rbiTQwObSH%2f8%2f%252bbwjgcXLOnu4Bxk5XQ%3d%3d) are SMD ones that I personally use for all korean builds. I bought a whole reel so have about 2k left. Those SMD ones I linked can be used on every Korean keyboard, as well as ergodox. Other keyboards use different SMD diodes. Size and soldering of diode just linked, as well as other SMD diode types:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpj3tilIaik&feature=share&list=PL00EjuPMbgnJjsuSKyX9OkrKG2NvuHzgX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpj3tilIaik&feature=share&list=PL00EjuPMbgnJjsuSKyX9OkrKG2NvuHzgX)

    TYVM WhiteFireDragon!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: naokira on Fri, 19 July 2013, 21:42:00
    So I'm planning to install leds to my Poker II. Then I saw WFD's Kmac assembly and in the moment he installs the led, he said that it needs to be shaved a little in the bottom. (Go in 18:30 to see
    )

    So is there any kind of leds that are sale on ebay that I can install WITHOUT shaving? I don't have the tools to do that  :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 19 July 2013, 21:43:57
    Quote from: naokira on Fri, 19 July 2013, 21:42:00
    So I'm planning to install leds to my Poker II. Then I saw WFD's Kmac assembly and in the moment he installs the led, he said that it needs to be shaved a little in the bottom. (Go in 18:30 to see
    )

    So is there any kind of leds that are sale on ebay that I can install WITHOUT shaving? I don't have the tools to do that  :-X

    I used 2x3x4mm water clear LEDs on my Pure PCB and they drop in perfectly with no needing to do anything like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 19 July 2013, 21:44:15
    Get flat squared ones that look like these.

    (http://www.mason-led.co.uk/img/new_products/Square%20led%20lamp%20Series.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 19 July 2013, 21:54:47
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 19 July 2013, 21:44:15
    Get flat squared ones that look like these.

    Show Image
    (http://www.mason-led.co.uk/img/new_products/Square%20led%20lamp%20Series.jpg)


    Those are the 2x3x4mm LEDs.  It's easier to search for them by dimension than rectangular or square LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: naokira on Fri, 19 July 2013, 21:59:13
    Thanks Nubb and Sifo :) I thought everyone does that lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 19 July 2013, 23:18:26
    Does anyone know about how thick the finish is on a powder coated piece?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 19 July 2013, 23:31:35
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 19 July 2013, 23:18:26
    Does anyone know about how thick the finish is on a powder coated piece?

    Depends on the piece.  It was pretty thick on my plate for my RK9000, at least one or two mm thick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 20 July 2013, 01:08:28
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 19 July 2013, 23:31:35
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 19 July 2013, 23:18:26
    Does anyone know about how thick the finish is on a powder coated piece?

    Depends on the piece.  It was pretty thick on my plate for my RK9000, at least one or two mm thick.

    For just the finish?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 20 July 2013, 01:16:09
    Powder coat is sprayed on and heated up to the flow point.  It can be pretty thick when it's put on and it was at least a mil thick on my RK9000 plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 20 July 2013, 03:05:53
    Powercoat thickness varies, depending on how much powder is sprayed on when there is a current. It can be thin or thick, but 1-2mm thick is just absurd. I have a desolered Rosewill RK9000 too, and it's not even close to 1mm thick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 20 July 2013, 03:08:05
    alright just trying to figure out how much clearance i should leave between parts for my mill work to be done with my custom case.  IE having a plate slide into a slot but both pieces are going to be powder coated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 20 July 2013, 03:11:05
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 20 July 2013, 03:05:53
    Powercoat thickness varies, depending on how much powder is sprayed on when there is a current. It can be thin or thick, but 1-2mm thick is just absurd. I have a desolered Rosewill RK9000 too, and it's not even close to 1mm thick.

    Went a little hyperbolic on the 2mm end, but I swear it was 1mm thick or a hair under. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cgbuen on Sat, 20 July 2013, 21:47:04
    Quick color questions:

    1. Is Realforce White (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=xf0100kt1n) the same as the white in the HHKB two-tone set (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=pdkb400ktwn)?

    2. What's the closest SP color code to the white used in the Cherry two-tone (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3558/3682768468_837b14b13d_o.jpg)? (source (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14681.msg284815#msg284815)) I'm looking for a 7x spacebar to go with a BSP set I got from sherryton. [[EDIT: I just realized someone else asked this same question in this thread a while back but without much luck.]] I hear the cream cheese in CCnG R1 was a decent match but haven't seen too many pictures or could figure out what color code was used.

    3a. What's the closest SP color code to the imsto gray (http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q603/magicmeatballs/Private/DSC_0478_zps0fbb87e1.jpg)? (source (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31861.msg726946#msg726946)) I'm looking for a 7x spacebar to have a set that looks a lot like what's in that picture.
    3b. In that picture, is that a Dolch spacebar? That may be sufficient for me to get, and maybe I won't have to seek out a specific color code.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Sat, 20 July 2013, 22:46:43
    I tried looking through the site a bit to find an answer, but it seems maybe my question is too basic for someone to have thought to ask it before.
    So I've been into mechanical keyboards for awhile, and recently bought a custom layout WASDKeyboard for my wife. Now, I made a few mistakes on the original, and just got some replacement keys sent out to her. This included some larger keys, four with stabilizer wires. Now, she replaced two of the keycaps without a problem, but both shift keys, when she puts the new ones on, are sticking, to the point where they're rendered pretty unusable. I'm stationed in Korea, and not physically there to help her, so any suggestions, or links to tutorials that might help us out, I'd really appreciate it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 20 July 2013, 22:48:29
    Did she put the inserts in the right way? 99% of the time with these costar stabilizers, that is the issue. Make sure the part of the insert that sticks out faces away from her.

    WASD actually has an official video guide over here:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Sat, 20 July 2013, 23:06:56
    Bam.

    Problem fixed.

    Thanks, Sifo.

    And that's why I love Geekhack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 20 July 2013, 23:08:01
    Another contribution to the 99%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 July 2013, 23:16:45
    Quote from: cgbuen on Sat, 20 July 2013, 21:47:04
    Quick color questions:

    1. Is Realforce White (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=xf0100kt1n) the same as the white in the HHKB two-tone set (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=pdkb400ktwn)?

    2. What's the closest SP color code to the white used in the Cherry two-tone (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3558/3682768468_837b14b13d_o.jpg)? (source (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14681.msg284815#msg284815)) I'm looking for a 7x spacebar to go with a BSP set I got from sherryton. [[EDIT: I just realized someone else asked this same question in this thread a while back but without much luck.]] I hear the cream cheese in CCnG R1 was a decent match but haven't seen too many pictures or could figure out what color code was used.

    3a. What's the closest SP color code to the imsto gray (http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q603/magicmeatballs/Private/DSC_0478_zps0fbb87e1.jpg)? (source (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31861.msg726946#msg726946)) I'm looking for a 7x spacebar to have a set that looks a lot like what's in that picture.
    3b. In that picture, is that a Dolch spacebar? That may be sufficient for me to get, and maybe I won't have to seek out a specific color code.

    I don't have any of those so I can't do the comparison myself by try checking this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.0) and then comparing your stuff to the chips.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UniClown on Sun, 21 July 2013, 21:09:59
    What is an original cherry ds keyboard with F-keys on the left side. Looking for a model number.
    Something similar to this Commodore PC-5 but hopefully beige colored.
    (http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7003/040620132787.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 22 July 2013, 12:05:14
    Uniclown, a few...
    Cherry G80-0929H**
    Cherry G80-0528HAU
    Cherry G80-0915H** (later version of the Commodore that is AT PC compatible unlike the older 0499)
    Cherry G80-2100H**
    Most of which are probably going to be a challenge to find, especially for a good price. Also there are the G80-25** models which have the keys in the proper location but they are assigned to other things, may be possible to swap controller and do as you wish and probably easiest models to find for good price.

    There are some other MX based ones like Dah Yang (aka Unitek, aka Chieh Tsu) that you might be able to find for a good deal which may be sufficient. Happy hunting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 22 July 2013, 13:22:16
    How does this CC email thing work? He uses throwaway addresses for specific sales, which are posted at the end of the countdown? At which point everyone furiously copy pastes into their message?

    Or does he use the same one every time?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 July 2013, 13:23:06
    Quote from: dnix on Mon, 22 July 2013, 13:22:16
    How does this CC email thing work? He uses throwaway addresses for specific sales, which are posted at the end of the countdown? At which point everyone furiously copy pastes into their message?

    Or does he use the same one every time?

    He posts an email before the sale and then you email it at the correct time which is listed in the timer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 10:13:29
    Where can I contact the manufacturer for custom springs? I am planning to find some super stiff springs...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 23 July 2013, 10:18:50
    Am I one of the few people that doesn't care for the layered cases?   Don't know why, just not a fan of the layers either all the same material or different materials.  Am I just that different?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 July 2013, 12:04:39
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 10:13:29
    Where can I contact the manufacturer for custom springs? I am planning to find some super stiff springs...

    You need something stiffer than clear springs?

    I've tried in the past, and it won't be cheap. Springs are made from a CNC, and the run time and setup is very expensive. You'll have to get at least a few thousand for reasonable costs per spring. You'll also have to provide exact specs of the springs you want to make.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 July 2013, 12:07:51
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 July 2013, 12:04:39
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 10:13:29
    1) Where can I contact the manufacturer for custom springs? I am planning to find some super stiff springs...
    2) Springs are made from a CNC

    1) Have you tried the ballpoint pen spring mod?
    2) CNC a spring?? I doubt that very much. It's probably a specialty spring machine. There's round stock that is put through many dies and then a special forming machine. I don't think you can CNC springs. I don't think it's a very efficient way to make a spring.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 23 July 2013, 10:18:50
    Am I one of the few people that doesn't care for the layered cases?   Don't know why, just not a fan of the layers either all the same material or different materials.  Am I just that different?

    Personal preference? I've never heard of a strong contingent either way. There's people that like and don't like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 17:37:25
    :O ballpen spring! Then I need to collect a good amount of pens for the project :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 23 July 2013, 17:56:53
    Dude you probably don't want that, ballpen springs are way too heavy for all keys, you probably won't be a able to write on it more than a few sentences, they are almost thrice as heavy as Clears (comparing actuation forces from the DT wiki). I would suggest ordering some MX Greys (tactile or linear, both have the same actuation forces) from 7bit on Deskthority and farming the springs from them, they actuate at 80cn in comparison to the 55cn from Clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:01:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 23 July 2013, 17:56:53
    Dude you probably don't want that, ballpen springs are way too heavy for all keys, you probably won't be a able to write on it more than a few sentences, they are almost thrice as heavy as Clears (comparing actuation forces from the DT wiki). I would suggest ordering some MX Greys (tactile or linear, both have the same actuation forces) from 7bit on Deskthority and farming the springs from them, they actuate at 80cn in comparison to the 55cn from Clears.

    I am typing on greens now but they still feel a little bit light for me...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:11:03
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:01:31
    I am typing on greens now but they still feel a little bit light for me...
    That's some strong fingers you got there. The problem is that Super Blacks are almost twice as heavy as Greens again, and the ballpoint modded blacks are even stiffer (depending on the spring of course). Try the ballpoint mod one one or two keys first before you buy a hundred pens. Also, short the spring from the pen to the length of a normal MX spring, else you risk the switch breaking apart or scattering into pieces because of the pressure.
    If you really like that and do a full keyboard with it I'm impressed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:12:06
    Rofl. I really like where this is going.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:56:05
    Why not just get MX Whites?  They would be the next step up. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:57:10
    MX Whites should have the same strength as Greens, so no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:58:00
    Migrate discussion if we're going to continue this please.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:06:35
    Does anybody have any idea on how to program the LED ON button for A.87 Rev3?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 24 July 2013, 14:52:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 July 2013, 12:07:51
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 July 2013, 12:04:39
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 10:13:29
    1) Where can I contact the manufacturer for custom springs? I am planning to find some super stiff springs...
    2) Springs are made from a CNC

    1) Have you tried the ballpoint pen spring mod?
    2) CNC a spring?? I doubt that very much. It's probably a specialty spring machine. There's round stock that is put through many dies and then a special forming machine. I don't think you can CNC springs. I don't think it's a very efficient way to make a spring.

    On GH, many of us hear about CNC mills to make cases. But different types of CNC machines make springs, which are needed for reproducibly, accuracy, and consistency. Definitely not cheap for a low production of less than 1k springs. Here is an example of such machine:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzTxzI_Hjrs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzTxzI_Hjrs)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 July 2013, 14:57:47
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 24 July 2013, 14:52:14
    On GH, many of us hear about CNC mills to make cases. But different types of CNC machines make springs, which are needed for reproducibly, accuracy, and consistency. Definitely not cheap for a low production of less than 1k springs. Here is an example of such machine:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzTxzI_Hjrs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzTxzI_Hjrs)

    Sorry. You're right. Read CNC and thought mills instantly. That's the machine I was thinking of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glod on Wed, 24 July 2013, 15:02:27
    here is a question

    Can i buy cherry stabs, either(or both) plate and PCB mount, from anywhere...like right now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 July 2013, 15:03:38
    Quote from: Glod on Wed, 24 July 2013, 15:02:27
    here is a question

    Can i buy cherry stabs, either(or both) plate and PCB mount, from anywhere...like right now?

    Answer is in the OP. Also WhiskyTango is selling some at the moment I believe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glod on Wed, 24 July 2013, 15:16:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 July 2013, 15:03:38
    Quote from: Glod on Wed, 24 July 2013, 15:02:27
    here is a question

    Can i buy cherry stabs, either(or both) plate and PCB mount, from anywhere...like right now?

    Answer is in the OP. Also WhiskyTango is selling some at the moment I believe.

    doh, i just became one of "those guys"

    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 24 July 2013, 15:35:46
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 24 July 2013, 14:52:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 July 2013, 12:07:51
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 July 2013, 12:04:39
    Quote from: linziyi on Tue, 23 July 2013, 10:13:29
    1) Where can I contact the manufacturer for custom springs? I am planning to find some super stiff springs...
    2) Springs are made from a CNC

    1) Have you tried the ballpoint pen spring mod?
    2) CNC a spring?? I doubt that very much. It's probably a specialty spring machine. There's round stock that is put through many dies and then a special forming machine. I don't think you can CNC springs. I don't think it's a very efficient way to make a spring.

    On GH, many of us hear about CNC mills to make cases. But different types of CNC machines make springs, which are needed for reproducibly, accuracy, and consistency. Definitely not cheap for a low production of less than 1k springs. Here is an example of such machine:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzTxzI_Hjrs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzTxzI_Hjrs)
    I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to get over 1k springs ordered...  Sell them in packs of 100.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Thu, 25 July 2013, 17:16:11
    so if Ergo Clear is slider from clear and spring from brown, then how is it different than a brown switch? I thought the only difference between brown and clear is the strength of the spring. the only difference I notice between the 2 stems is that the tactile bump on the clear is maybe more noticeable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 July 2013, 17:18:56
    You answered your own question. The Clear's bump will be more noticeable. I don't think the stems are the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 25 July 2013, 22:32:52
    Quote from: phx on Thu, 25 July 2013, 17:16:11
    so if Ergo Clear is slider from clear and spring from brown, then how is it different than a brown switch? I thought the only difference between brown and clear is the strength of the spring. the only difference I notice between the 2 stems is that the tactile bump on the clear is maybe more noticeable.

    Just noticed your location--we might be neighbors!

    I have both Clears and Browns, and they are very different--not just because of the spring.  My ergo-Clears feel different from Browns, even when I tried 55g springs.  The bump in Clears is a lot more pronounced.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 25 July 2013, 23:01:22
    yup its a lot larger bump in the slider
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 26 July 2013, 01:49:48
    Clears and Browns have different stems. I've been noticing people thinking otherwise around the forums lately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: naokira on Fri, 26 July 2013, 07:30:00
    Do leds shine through a thick pbt keycap if its white? Mines do :( don't know if the led is just too strong or what.

    Though the stock pbt of poker II doesn't shine through.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 26 July 2013, 07:36:43
    Quote from: naokira on Fri, 26 July 2013, 07:30:00
    Do leds shine through a thick pbt keycap if its white? Mines do :( don't know if the led is just too strong or what.

    Though the stock pbt of poker II doesn't shine through.

    I think that's normal. There have neem some pictures posted in this thread that show that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 July 2013, 07:38:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 26 July 2013, 07:36:43
    Quote from: naokira on Fri, 26 July 2013, 07:30:00
    Do leds shine through a thick pbt keycap if its white? Mines do :( don't know if the led is just too strong or what.

    Though the stock pbt of poker II doesn't shine through.

    I think that's normal. There have neem some pictures posted in this thread that show that.

    (http://i.imgur.com/PrSkXO7.jpg)

    From here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg895963#msg895963).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: naokira on Fri, 26 July 2013, 08:14:59
    Thanks for the info. I think they don't shine with darker colors, provided that its a thick pbt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 26 July 2013, 12:44:27
    Is there anywhere I can buy round LEDs that don't require shaving? I just don't like the look of the square ones..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 July 2013, 13:46:24
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 26 July 2013, 12:44:27
    Is there anywhere I can buy round LEDs that don't require shaving? I just don't like the look of the square ones..

    Just buy regular 3mm (T1) LEDs. Sometimes you will have a problem with really thick keycaps, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:17:39
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 July 2013, 13:46:24
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 26 July 2013, 12:44:27
    Is there anywhere I can buy round LEDs that don't require shaving? I just don't like the look of the square ones..

    Just buy regular 3mm (T1) LEDs. Sometimes you will have a problem with really thick keycaps, though.

    If someone where to be using GMK/Cherry caps, would T1 LEDs be a problem?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:54:05
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:17:39
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 July 2013, 13:46:24
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 26 July 2013, 12:44:27
    Is there anywhere I can buy round LEDs that don't require shaving? I just don't like the look of the square ones..

    Just buy regular 3mm (T1) LEDs. Sometimes you will have a problem with really thick keycaps, though.

    If someone where to be using GMK/Cherry caps, would T1 LEDs be a problem?

    Majority of round LEDs (even T1 and 3mm) will have that small lip on the bottom. If you don't file down that nub sticking out, it won't be seated in the switch housing correctly. This will be a problem for ALL thick caps, including cherry/GMK ABS and imsto PBT.

    Looking at datasheet is the best bet to see if those nubs are present. If you're buying those generic T1 LEDs from China that has no datasheet, then nearly all of them will have that bump you'll have to file.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:56:16
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:54:05
    Majority of round LEDs (even T1 and 3mm) will have that small lip on the bottom. If you don't file down that nub sticking out, it won't be seated in the switch housing correctly. This will be a problem for ALL thick caps, including cherry/GMK ABS and imsto PBT.
    Are there any available that don't require filing down that you know of?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:00:58
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:56:16
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 26 July 2013, 15:54:05
    Majority of round LEDs (even T1 and 3mm) will have that small lip on the bottom. If you don't file down that nub sticking out, it won't be seated in the switch housing correctly. This will be a problem for ALL thick caps, including cherry/GMK ABS and imsto PBT.
    Are there any available that don't require filing down that you know of?

    2x3x4 rectangular ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:01:04
    Is the Tsangan kit not the right fit for the Vortex Pure? That shift key looks too small.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:02:09
    Quote from: blueasjim on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:01:04
    Is the Tsangan kit not the right fit for the Vortex Pure? That shift key looks too small.

    Tsangan compatibility kit includes "1800" shift, or 1.75-unit shift, same as on the Vortex KBT Pure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:03:12
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:02:09
    Quote from: blueasjim on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:01:04
    Is the Tsangan kit not the right fit for the Vortex Pure? That shift key looks too small.

    Tsangan compatibility kit includes "1800" shift, or 1.75-unit shift, same as on the Vortex KBT Pure.

    Thank you, jd.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nathairtras on Fri, 26 July 2013, 18:44:22
    Where can I buy a Pure with whites shipping CONUS?

    Only store I have found is i kbtrace.com but that is in EU.  It will ship here, but wondering if I have other options or if that is it.  ANSI layout.


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 July 2013, 18:59:49
    Quote from: nathairtras on Fri, 26 July 2013, 18:44:22
    Where can I buy a Pure with whites shipping CONUS?

    Only store I have found is i kbtrace.com but that is in EU.  It will ship here, but wondering if I have other options or if that is it.  ANSI layout.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2

    Did you try MechanicalKeyboards.com?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 26 July 2013, 19:01:07
    They're out and they don't have any incoming stock.  They have a Race with Whites though. 

    Odds are if you can't find it there, you won't find it in the US though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 27 July 2013, 12:31:18
    Which KMACs come hard anodized?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 July 2013, 12:43:39
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:00:58
    2x3x4 rectangular ;D

    are those the rectangulars on my poker?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:00:58
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 27 July 2013, 12:31:18
    Which KMACs come hard anodized?

    The most recent one, KMAC 2. All other kmacs (and kpad) I believe are standard Type II anodized.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:05:05
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 July 2013, 12:43:39
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:00:58
    2x3x4 rectangular ;D

    are those the rectangulars on my poker?

    Take a picture of it for us and we'll ID it. It's very easy to tell though. Are the LEDs square or round?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:09:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:05:05
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 July 2013, 12:43:39
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 July 2013, 16:00:58
    2x3x4 rectangular ;D

    are those the rectangulars on my poker?

    Take a picture of it for us and we'll ID it. It's very easy to tell though. Are the LEDs square or round?

    Only asking JD because he's the one who gave them to me! :p
    I believe they are 2x3x4 rectangular ones though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:16:52
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:00:58
    The most recent one, KMAC 2. All other kmacs (and kpad) I believe are standard Type II anodized.

    Ah okay, thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:18:34
    I'll drop another question i've been thinking about;
    Do FN MX Julysicles exist alongside the FN Topre julysicles?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:20:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:18:34
    I'll drop another question i've been thinking about;
    Do FN MX Julysicles exist alongside the FN Topre julysicles?

    I've never seen a 1.5x Clack mod. If the 1x July mod exists, I've never seen it. I don't think it does.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:23:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:20:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:18:34
    I'll drop another question i've been thinking about;
    Do FN MX Julysicles exist alongside the FN Topre julysicles?

    I've never seen a 1.5x Clack mod. If the 1x July mod exists, I've never seen it. I don't think it does.

    I don't think 1.5x Clack Mods exist at all, but i know 1x 'fn' Topre Julysicles do, i think we'll all seen a picture of one of those. but does it exist in MX?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:24:20
    I missed the word "MX".

    I've never seen a 1x mod July MX and I don't think they exist.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlagrantWolf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:39:27
    Where is the best place to buy and then return mechanical keyboards in order to test different switches (specifically brown and clear)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:48:21
    Quote from: FlagrantWolf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:39:27
    Where is the best place to buy and then return mechanical keyboards in order to test different switches (specifically brown and clear)?

    Um that's kinda crappy to do to a company but Amazon and MechnicalKeyboards.com have good return policies. Why not do a meetup or go to a storefront?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:50:50
    Quote from: FlagrantWolf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:39:27
    Where is the best place to buy and then return mechanical keyboards in order to test different switches (specifically brown and clear)?

    Why not but a sample pack of switches from WASD?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:51:15
    Quote from: FlagrantWolf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:39:27
    Where is the best place to buy and then return mechanical keyboards in order to test different switches (specifically brown and clear)?

    amazon has a good return policy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:53:05
    Anyone know if there's full sets of just deep-dished dsa caps? I recently ordered the blank PBT dsa caps from SP and the deep dished ones (f and j) is the best part IMO.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:53:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:50:50
    Quote from: FlagrantWolf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:39:27
    Where is the best place to buy and then return mechanical keyboards in order to test different switches (specifically brown and clear)?

    Why not but a sample pack of switches from WASD?
    You can't tell from just trying a single switch.

    I would recommend amazon. Returns are super-simple with them, and since they're so large I don't feel bad about returning stuff to them for no reason.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlagrantWolf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:58:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:48:21
    Um that's kinda crappy to do to a company but Amazon and MechnicalKeyboards.com have good return policies. Why not do a meetup or go to a storefront?

    Normally I would never do this, but my city really sucks and there are no stores that carry any higher quality keyboards, much less mechanical keyboards. There is also not much of a computer community here so I could not find any type of meetup. While the switch pack is a nice idea I want to feel what it's like to type on a full keyboard before spending $150-200 on a customized keyboard with that type of switch.

    Thanks guys, I'll give amazon a try.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:02:29
    I've never seen a board with clears on Amazon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlagrantWolf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:08:57
    I guess I can try brown and black then and see if I like the light or heavy. If I like heavier better I'll order the clears on my custom board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:10:48
    Quote from: FlagrantWolf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:39:27
    Where is the best place to buy and then return mechanical keyboards in order to test different switches (specifically brown and clear)?

    There should be plenty of keyboards with browns, but very limited boards with clears. Amazon or newegg won't have any boards with clear switches. Mechanicalkeyboards.com should have some Duckies with clear switches.

    But they are a small business, so buying with intentions to return will hurt them. Then they'll have to deal with trying to sell the used board. If you really want to try out a switch, you should worry about reselling it youself.


    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 27 July 2013, 14:50:50
    Why not but a sample pack of switches from WASD?

    Pressing on a single sample switch does not feel the same as typing on the keys from a complete keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:18:17
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:10:48
    Pressing on a single sample switch does not feel the same as typing on the keys from a complete keyboard.

    Better than nothing though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nathairtras on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:29:25

    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 26 July 2013, 19:01:07
    They're out and they don't have any incoming stock.  They have a Race with Whites though. 

    Odds are if you can't find it there, you won't find it in the US though.
    Thanks, that's what I was afraid of but nice to be sure.

    $175... Might be hard to justify over a QFR green...


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlagrantWolf on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:31:00
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:10:48
    There should be plenty of keyboards with browns, but very limited boards with clears. Amazon or newegg won't have any boards with clear switches. Mechanicalkeyboards.com should have some Duckies with clear switches.

    But they are a small business, so buying with intentions to return will hurt them. Then they'll have to deal with trying to sell the used board. If you really want to try out a switch, you should worry about reselling it youself.

    I feel bad enough buying and returning with Amazon. I'd never do that to a small business. I'll just try the browns and maybe the blacks from amazon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:33:40
    Quote from: nathairtras on Sat, 27 July 2013, 15:29:25

    $175... Might be hard to justify over a QFR green...

    What? Most I've seen for a used QFR green was $120. Usually they sell in the classifieds for $75-100...

    Anyways, this is NOT the thread to talk about prices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 27 July 2013, 22:56:42
    Yes, Dubs, they are the 2x3x4 rectangular variety. :)

    To the person wanting to try different switches: I recommend starting with MX Browns, as they are a good all-around choice and always my recommendation for someone just starting out. When you buy your second mechanical, get clears, reds, blues, or blacks. If you ever get a switch you don't like after trying it for a while, you can usually sell the board here for about 90% of retail. I really just like all MX switches now, after using most of them for a while. You could probably even sit me in front of a keyboard with blues, and I could use it without complaint. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klaxhu on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:15:05
    Hi all,

    I really like how the CM Storm Limited Edition White Quickfire TK looks, everything except the layout. Would love a keyboard with everything this one has (color combination, backlit, price, etc) but with the layout of the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid or the K65 (basically, tenkeyless) - I have seen a few backlit tenkeyless but none with this color combination...

    Also, I am currently building my water-cooled system and need something to match the black & white theme.

    Thank you for any small info that could help me find one!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:20:47
    ^ You didn't ask a single question, but thanks for sharing  ^-^ . Also, welcome to GH.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klaxhu on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:28:12
    Quote from: klaxhu on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:15:05
    Hi all,

    I really like how the CM Storm Limited Edition White Quickfire TK looks, everything except the layout. Would love a keyboard with everything this one has (color combination, backlit, price, etc) but with the layout of the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid or the K65 (basically, tenkeyless) - I have seen a few backlit tenkeyless but none with this color combination...

    Also, I am currently building my water-cooled system and need something to match the black & white theme.

    Thank you for any small info that could help me find one!

    @WFD - you are right! i am so stupid :)

    Do you guys know a keyboard that:
    1. tenkeyless
    2. backlit
    3. ideally - brown sw
    4. white & black color combination by default without replacing caps ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:33:42
    Quote from: klaxhu on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:28:12
    Quote from: klaxhu on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:15:05
    Hi all,

    I really like how the CM Storm Limited Edition White Quickfire TK looks, everything except the layout. Would love a keyboard with everything this one has (color combination, backlit, price, etc) but with the layout of the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid or the K65 (basically, tenkeyless) - I have seen a few backlit tenkeyless but none with this color combination...

    Also, I am currently building my water-cooled system and need something to match the black & white theme.

    Thank you for any small info that could help me find one!

    @WFD - you are right! i am so stupid :)

    Do you guys know a keyboard that:
    1. tenkeyless
    2. backlit
    3. white & black color combination by default without replacing caps ?

    no... sorry I do not know of any without changing caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:39:10
    Ducky shine satisfies the first 3 requirements, you'll have to buy additional caps for #4. But don't worry, you'll get over the price shock after you've been on here for a while  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klaxhu on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:39:14
    thanks!
    that Storm LE ticks most boxes, i just don't like that layout and don't know if i can get used to using it ...
    i use arrows/insert/delete/home/end a lot in total commander :-(
    in SC2 it won't be a problem as i would rarely touch that side

    and about the high $ £ € - i know and i don't mind :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:41:45
    can you do a black keyboard with white key caps? if so a ducky like wfd said with a different set of caps would be easy to find on mechanicalkeyboards.com

    edit: what switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klaxhu on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:45:15
    Quote from: domoaligato on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:41:45
    can you do a black keyboard with white key caps? if so a ducky like wfd said with a different set of caps would be easy to find on mechanicalkeyboards.com

    edit: what switches?

    ideally, brown
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 28 July 2013, 05:02:20
    brown switch tenkeyless keycool 87's
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&switch_id=2&size=Tenkeyless&man=ALL&key_plastic=ALL&backlit=ALL&interface=ALL&cord_length=ALL&usb_kro=ALL&ps2_kro=ALL&x=33&y=10&in_stock=on

    for white led keycaps post a WTB thread in the classifieds for white ducky shine keycap set.
    they are sold out on mechanicalkeyboards.com and a few other places I checked.

    a youtube video showing what that would look like...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 28 July 2013, 05:07:17
    Quote from: domoaligato on Sun, 28 July 2013, 05:02:20
    brown switch tenkeyless keycool 87's
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&switch_id=2&size=Tenkeyless&man=ALL&key_plastic=ALL&backlit=ALL&interface=ALL&cord_length=ALL&usb_kro=ALL&ps2_kro=ALL&x=33&y=10&in_stock=on

    for white led keycaps post a WTB thread in the classifieds for white ducky shine keycap set.
    they are sold out on mechanicalkeyboards.com and a few other places I checked.

    a youtube video showing what that would look like...

    Problem with posting in the Classifieds section is he doesn't have the required number of posts to start a thread there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klaxhu on Sun, 28 July 2013, 07:04:36
    @domoaligato - that is not a bad idea. i will have a look at that option!
    @melvang indeed :( - but it's not too bad. by the time i am familiarized with what i will need after probably spending some time here i think i will have the necessary no of posts.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 28 July 2013, 13:57:22
    What is this switch?[attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 28 July 2013, 14:09:15
    Can you get some more light on the inside of that black ring? I don't really see how it's mounted. Are you sure that it's mechanical and not a rubberdome with slider?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 28 July 2013, 14:13:54
    Never mind it must be rubber dome. Feels like rubber some I have just never seen a slider before. XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 28 July 2013, 14:13:59
    I also thought it was just a slider over rubberdome but I'm not sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sun, 28 July 2013, 17:02:20
    I just finished building my Phantom and looking for a case. I know that Filco and PLU will fit. Will a CM QFR case work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 28 July 2013, 17:06:47
    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 28 July 2013, 17:02:20
    I just finished building my Phantom and looking for a case. I know that Filco and PLU will fit. Will a CM QFR case work?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg753747#msg753747
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Sun, 28 July 2013, 19:13:14
    Does anyone know if I can put a Poker X/Poker pcb in my Poker 2 case? I want to be able to mod my Poker to clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:04:05
    I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

    Also, if there is someone that could mod a regular one for me!s
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:10:20
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Sun, 28 July 2013, 19:13:14
    Does anyone know if I can put a Poker X/Poker pcb in my Poker 2 case? I want to be able to mod my Poker to clears.

    I think they are the same case, but do you not have a case for your poker x?


    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:04:05
    I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

    Also, if there is someone that could mod a regular one for me!s

    The first half, I don't think so, possibly a leopold that is somewhat rare, someone else probably knows better

    The second half there is a directory of people who mod boards here

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:28:29
    Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:37:35
    Quote from: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:28:29
    Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?

    yes

    capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:46:05
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:37:35
    Quote from: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:28:29
    Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?

    yes

    capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took
    kewl! what color?
    also, to install leds on the poker 2, you just have to remove the solder from the led holes and solder 'em in right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:47:15
    Quote from: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:46:05
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:37:35
    Quote from: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:28:29
    Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?

    yes

    capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took
    kewl! what color?
    also, to install leds on the poker 2, you just have to remove the solder from the led holes and solder 'em in right?

    white-ish, I haven't actually plugged mine in yet

    yes, more info here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35152.msg976734#msg976734
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:52:44
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:47:15
    Quote from: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:46:05
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:37:35
    Quote from: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:28:29
    Does the poker 2 come with any leds installed?

    yes

    capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took
    kewl! what color?
    also, to install leds on the poker 2, you just have to remove the solder from the led holes and solder 'em in right?

    white-ish, I haven't actually plugged mine in yet

    yes, more info here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35152.msg976734#msg976734
    thanks!  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:56:46
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:04:05
    I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

    There was a KBT Race in white but that had issues with the paint chipping off. The Noppoo Choc Mini and the Keycool 84 are available in white, too. I don't think there's a 60% in white. None of those come with the switches you want though I think.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:37:35
    capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took

    Left win has also one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:59:23
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:56:46
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:04:05
    I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

    There was a KBT Race in white but that had issues with the paint chipping off. The Noppoo Choc Mini and the Keycool 84 are available in white, too. I don't think there's a 60% in white. None of those come with the switches you want though I think.


    Yes, I saw it. I want heavier switches though :( I think I'll buy one of those (or maybe a Filco white TKL) and change the switches. Would that be expensive?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 16:10:10
    If i installed leds on a poker 2, would they be always turned on?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 16:16:47
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:56:46
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:04:05
    I would like to know which 60 or 75% keyboards have a white case and if any of them have white, clears or greens.

    There was a KBT Race in white but that had issues with the paint chipping off. The Noppoo Choc Mini and the Keycool 84 are available in white, too. I don't think there's a 60% in white. None of those come with the switches you want though I think.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:37:35
    capslock and 2 on spacebar possibly others can't remember and cant find pic i took

    Left win has also one.

    Yes I remember that now, because I saw it and was thinking, 'what the heck?'
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 16:48:31
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 15:59:23
    Yes, I saw it. I want heavier switches though :( I think I'll buy one of those (or maybe a Filco white TKL) and change the switches. Would that be expensive?

    You can get some different springs from the classifieds or Originative and make some ghetto greens for example. Or you can buy some switches which will be more expensive though (price for 100 springs should be under 10$, Originative sells 100 80g springs for 8$, a new switch costs around 0.50-0.60$ per piece). Maybe check 7bit's MX group buy on deskthority.

    Quote from: Narcix on Mon, 29 July 2013, 16:10:10
    If i installed leds on a poker 2, would they be always turned on?

    I think you can turn them off if you want to but that is more of a guess. Since it will be the same PCB as the backlit version I am pretty sure they included that feature. Probably dimming as well.
    Edit: Just looked it up in the manual, you can dim the backlight and turn it completly off as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:00:19
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 16:48:31

    You can get some different springs from the classifieds or Originative and make some ghetto greens for example. Or you can buy some switches which will be more expensive though (price for 100 springs should be under 10$, Originative sells 100 80g springs for 8$, a new switch costs around 0.50-0.60$ per piece). Maybe check 7bit's MX group buy on deskthority.


    Humm, more help them please :)

    If I bought the switches from MX, I wouldn't know if I need the pins or not. The options are the filco and a noppoo choc. Also, is it easy to change them? Thanks for the replies so far guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:25:24
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:00:19
    If I bought the switches from MX, I wouldn't know if I need the pins or not. The options are the filco and a noppoo choc. Also, is it easy to change them? Thanks for the replies so far guys!

    Both the Noppoo and the Filco are plate mounted boards, so you don't need the pins. However, if you misordered or something, you can simply cut the pins off, it doesn't really make a difference.
    Changing the switches or the springs is a bit of work as you will have to desolder the switches on plate mounted boards. This will take some time, you will also have to resolder them when reassembling the keyboard.
    If you just buy different springs you will also have to open each switch, but with The_Beast's switch tools (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46160.0) for example (currently available for pre-order, I would really recommend them if you want to get into keyboard modding) it's really easy and just takes a few seconds for each switch, opening - swapping the spring - closing takes about a minute for each switch, depending on how fast you are.
    You won't have to open the the switches if you simply replace them with new switches of course, so that would a bit faster.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:32:45
    Anyone know roughly how much a 456GT weighs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:42:14
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:25:24

    Both the Noppoo and the Filco are plate mounted boards, so you don't need the pins. However, if you misordered or something, you can simply cut the pins off, it doesn't really make a difference.
    Changing the switches or the springs is a bit of work as you will have to desolder the switches on plate mounted boards. This will take some time, you will also have to resolder them when reassembling the keyboard.
    If you just buy different springs you will also have to open each switch, but with The_Beast's switch tools (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46160.0) for example (currently available for pre-order, I would really recommend them if you want to get into keyboard modding) it's really easy and just takes a few seconds for each switch, opening - swapping the spring - closing takes about a minute for each switch, depending on how fast you are.
    You won't have to open the the switches if you simply replace them with new switches of course, so that would a bit faster.

    Thanks! I think I'll try swapping the springs them! Seems easier for starting :) I'll buy some switches to practice first :)

    Thanks again for the replies!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:48:02
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:42:14
    Thanks! I think I'll try swapping the springs them! Seems easier for starting :) I'll buy some switches to practice first :)

    Thanks again for the replies!

    Could be that you misunderstood me there: For swapping the switches themselves you will have to desolder them all, and resolder again. When swapping only the springs you will have to additionally open the swiches, so really just changing switches is easier, but more expensive as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:58:08
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:48:02
    Could be that you misunderstood me there: For swapping the switches themselves you will have to desolder them all, and resolder again. When swapping only the springs you will have to additionally open the swiches, so really just changing switches is easier, but more expensive as well.

    Ok, I get it. Indeed I misunderstood.

    So, to desolder and resolder, that'd be too hard for a total idiot on these things?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 21:08:47
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:58:08
    So, to desolder and resolder, that'd be too hard for a total idiot on these things?

    Not too hard, but you need some soldering equipment of course and enough time and patience. To get an idea of how much work it is, heres a video from WhiteFireDragon swapping the switches of a Filco to Ergo Clears:
    If you don't want to do that, here you can find some people who will do it for you: Professional Services Directory (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 29 July 2013, 21:20:33
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 21:08:47


    Not too hard, but you need some soldering equipment of course and enough time and patience. To get an idea of how much work it is, heres a video from WhiteFireDragon swapping the switches of a Filco to Ergo Clears:
    If you don't want to do that, here you can find some people who will do it for you: Professional Services Directory (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0).

    I think I'll try it myself! There is tj's thread to help as well.

    Thanks so much BlueBär!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 29 July 2013, 21:27:32
    Glad to help! I think tomorrrow I'm gonna write a beginner's modding guide, but now I gotta go to sleep :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 29 July 2013, 22:56:41
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 29 July 2013, 20:32:45
    Anyone know roughly how much a 456GT weighs?

    I asked alaricljs and he says about 7lb 2oz without the cable
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Tue, 30 July 2013, 05:57:27
    I think i read somewhere that soon every qfr will have the blak case. is that true?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 July 2013, 06:16:09
    Quote from: Narcix on Tue, 30 July 2013, 05:57:27
    I think i read somewhere that soon every qfr will have the blak case. is that true?

    The regular QFRs should be unbranded and black now.

    The QFR Stealths already have the black cases. I think they have matching plate colors as well. So red switches have red plates, blue switches have blue plates, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Xenderwind on Tue, 30 July 2013, 06:18:15
    Quote from: Narcix on Tue, 30 July 2013, 05:57:27
    I think i read somewhere that soon every qfr will have the blak case. is that true?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46341.msg977953#msg977953
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:35:08
    so the brown is 45 cN and the clear is 55, is there a 50 spring?
    also, is there a lighter spring than the 45?

    edit: sticker sheet, worth?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:39:49
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:35:08
    1) is there a 50 spring?
    2) is there a lighter spring than the 45?
    3) sticker sheet, worth?

    1) I think so? I'm not sure. There might be a custom Korean one.
    2) I've seen a 35g mod but I'm not sure how he did it. I didn't look at the article I saw.
    3) Read the OP. This isn't the Price Check Thread. There are vendors who sell stickers so check those out for an idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:42:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:39:49
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:35:08
    1) is there a 50 spring?
    2) is there a lighter spring than the 45?
    3) sticker sheet, worth?

    1) I think so? I'm not sure. There might be a custom Korean one.
    2) I've seen a 35g mod but I'm not sure how he did it. I didn't look at the article I saw.
    3) Read the OP. This isn't the Price Check Thread. There are vendors who sell stickers so check those out for an idea.

    3. meant to say "is it worth getting?" Does it make a noticeable difference?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:45:15
    Answer is in the OP as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:48:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:45:15
    Answer is in the OP as well.

    great, thanks!
    (didn't notice the OP has a list of FAQs now)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:49:15
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 30 July 2013, 09:35:08
    so the brown is 45 cN and the clear is 55, is there a 50 spring?
    also, is there a lighter spring than the 45?

    If you take the Korean measurements (by bottom out force), the brown springs bottom out around 60g (correct me if I'm wrong here!). You can get 62g, 65g, 67g or 80g springs pretty easily (Originative for example), 80g should be close to the original black springs. Lighter springs sometimes show up in the classifieds, i.e. 45g or 55g springs. Be aware that with a less strong spring, the tactility of a switch will increase (can make it sticky feeling though), but with a stronger spring it will decrease.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 July 2013, 10:04:42
    67g is probably closest to MX blacks. 80g is definitely heavier than Blacks based on my own research.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 30 July 2013, 10:11:13
    I don't have any 80g 67g springs to compare, this was just compiled from waht I read on the forum, so I guess you're right. Kind of a simple question: I made this beginner guide to modding, should I rather put it in the keyboard section or in the making stuff together section?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 July 2013, 10:35:39
    Making Stuff Together
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 July 2013, 10:38:26
    Is there anything currently any mechanicals available  to purchase smaller than 60%?

    I know there are a few 'in the works' pre-group buy/planning stuffs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 30 July 2013, 10:46:08
    Not commercially available.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 30 July 2013, 18:44:42
    How much smaller can you get? Link to said designs?

    HHKB could be considered less than "60%" as it's missing some corner buttons.   ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 July 2013, 18:49:55
    Quote from: dnix on Tue, 30 July 2013, 18:44:42
    How much smaller can you get? Link to said designs?

    HHKB could be considered less than "60%" as it's missing some corner buttons.   ^-^

    Welcome to the world of 40% boards.

    jdcarpe (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38847.msg801287#msg801287), he actually built his. I've seen prototypes.

    Hypermicro (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/hypermicro-and-hypermini-keyboard-t4185.html) from DT and 7bit.

    kmiller8's 40% design (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38775.msg752875#msg752875) thread
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 30 July 2013, 19:16:27
    (http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/picture/478938/81312368.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 July 2013, 19:24:54
    No memes in this thread please.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 30 July 2013, 23:28:31
    this is another very cool design as well
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45389.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 05:48:24
    Where do you put an LED in an Alp switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 31 July 2013, 06:00:11
    If the switches doesn't already come with an LED, then the housing won't have holes that you can insert the LED. ALPS switches that come with LEDs have slightly different housing than the ones that don't have LEDs, unlike MX cherry switches where housings are all the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 06:13:41
    How did these get their LEDs? They look like Matias Alp switches

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46060.0;attach=28995;image)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 31 July 2013, 06:18:51
    Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 06:13:41
    How did these get their LEDs? They look like Matias Alp switches

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46060.0;attach=28995;image)


    Totally guessing here but but I would think the LEDs are probably SMD on the PCB directly to the side of the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 06:27:16
    Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 06:13:41
    How did these get their LEDs? They look like Matias Alp switches

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46060.0;attach=28995;image)


    I can't seem to find that thread where you pulled that image, as I'm only on a mobile platform right now with no access to a real PC. However, your answer is right there in one of the next images. They are lit from underneath, through the hole in the PCB designed for the Cherry switch mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 06:33:16
    That image is from the Duck Mini2 thread with Matias switches installed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:14:58
    Okay, so I've got a couple questions. As it hasn't really had any effect on my keyboarding, I haven't spent too much time worrying about keycaps, but I'm curious about where I can get some more information on the different types of plastic, and some benefits of the different types. Also, I'd love to see a pic or two illustrating thin vs med vs thick PBT, just so I have a reference. What are generally considered more preferable, and are there any quantifiable reasons?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:22:24
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 06:27:16
    Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 06:13:41
    How did these get their LEDs? They look like Matias Alp switches

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46060.0;attach=28995;image)


    I can't seem to find that thread where you pulled that image, as I'm only on a mobile platform right now with no access to a real PC. However, your answer is right there in one of the next images. They are lit from underneath, through the hole in the PCB designed for the Cherry switch mount.

    I found the thread and blog post where the images reside: http://duck0113.tistory.com/35

    (http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/266EC03A51E1153412B12A)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:25:59
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:14:58
    1) I'm curious about where I can get some more information on the different types of plastic, and some benefits of the different types.
    2) Also, I'd love to see a pic or two illustrating thin vs med vs thick PBT, just so I have a reference.
    3) What are generally considered more preferable, and are there any quantifiable reasons?

    1) There's a bit of info that can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46379.0) and here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44312.msg915983#msg915983). Regardless, common types of keycap plastics are ABS, PBT, and POM.
    2) If you don't get a picture by 1800 EST today, PM me and I'll post a picture here for you. I believe I still have pictures of PBT caps but if not, I can show you the ABS caps I have in thick and thin.
    3) Thick PBT and ABS seem to be the most popular. Thick ABS are generally found from Cherry/GMK. Thick PBT are usually from imsto. It's all personal preference. Some people swear by thick PBT. I just sold my set off because I love thick ABS. The thicker caps feel nicer and more solid versus say SP ABS caps or Vortex Thin PBT caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:37:20
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:14:58
    What are generally considered more preferable, and are there any quantifiable reasons?

    This used to be in the OP... *grumble, grumble*

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:50:24
    Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?

    That's like asking which is better, Ferrari or Lamborghini? :P

    They're both awesome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:07:25
    Whoops, I'll fix that jdcarpe. Accidently deleted it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:10:00
    Is there anyway to figure out what spring is what if I've accidentally went and mixed up springs from red, black, brown, blue and white switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:13:00
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:10:00
    Is there anyway to figure out what spring is what if I've accidentally went and mixed up springs from red, black, brown, blue and white switches?

    Red, brown, and blue switches all use the same spring.
    The black should be in the middle of the weights.
    The white should be heaviest.

    I don't actually know if the springs look different since I didn't look at them that hard but they might have different coil counts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:14:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:13:00
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:10:00
    Is there anyway to figure out what spring is what if I've accidentally went and mixed up springs from red, black, brown, blue and white switches?

    Red, brown, and blue switches all use the same spring.
    The black should be in the middle of the weights.
    The white should be heaviest.

    I don't actually know if the springs look different since I didn't look at them that hard but they might have different coil counts.

    I know there is a picture someone with all the springs side by side, and some you can tell by just looking at them which are which
    im going to go try and find it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:22:14
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:14:44
    I know there is a picture someone with all the springs side by side, and some you can tell by just looking at them which are which
    im going to go try and find it

    From this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=6545.msg102993#msg102993), I found this:

    (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7779/mxspringssmall.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:23:27
    He's thinking of ripster's guide.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:24:04
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:14:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:13:00
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:10:00
    Is there anyway to figure out what spring is what if I've accidentally went and mixed up springs from red, black, brown, blue and white switches?

    Red, brown, and blue switches all use the same spring.
    The black should be in the middle of the weights.
    The white should be heaviest.

    I don't actually know if the springs look different since I didn't look at them that hard but they might have different coil counts.

    I know there is a picture someone with all the springs side by side, and some you can tell by just looking at them which are which
    im going to go try and find it

    Doh! I didn't think to look for one of those pics with the springs side by side....I think the one I want is deleted possibly :(


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:22:14
    Show Image
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:14:44
    I know there is a picture someone with all the springs side by side, and some you can tell by just looking at them which are which
    im going to go try and find it

    From this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=6545.msg102993#msg102993), I found this:

    (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7779/mxspringssmall.jpg) (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7779/mxspringssmall.jpg)


    ^^ This might help  8)

    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:23:27
    He's thinking of ripster's guide.


    ^^ Oh yeah...that was it  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:00:17
    It's like 8 or 9 springs, horizontally side by side, including kbd and gold ones (i think)

    might be ripsters

    I know i can tell a stock clear spring apart from others 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:01:22
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:00:17
    It's like 8 or 9 springs, horizontally side by side, including kbd and gold ones (i think)

    might be ripsters

    I know i can tell a stock clear spring apart from others 

    Yeah I was thinking of that one to....was it in sherry's spring thread that got deleted?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:02:12
    Edit: I can't link direct to the image. Just use the album link.

    Album is here (http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4#0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:02:34
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:01:22
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:00:17
    It's like 8 or 9 springs, horizontally side by side, including kbd and gold ones (i think)

    might be ripsters

    I know i can tell a stock clear spring apart from others 

    Yeah I was thinking of that one to....was it in sherry's spring thread that got deleted?

    I can't remember honestly, i know i've seen it again recently, and i know it's here somewhere, i'll go digging
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:05:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:02:12
    Show Image
    (http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4#2)


    Album is here (http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4#0).

    Thanks for the link!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:07:13
    I swear, there is a different pic. i know because it's only one photo, and each spring has it's weight under it, in a black font
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:15:55
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:07:13
    I swear, there is a different pic. i know because it's only one photo, and each spring has it's weight under it, in a black font

    Are you confusing that one I linked with the Korean spring comparison photo?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:22:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:15:55
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:07:13
    I swear, there is a different pic. i know because it's only one photo, and each spring has it's weight under it, in a black font

    Are you confusing that one I linked with the Korean spring comparison photo?

    Wasn't there one in that fashion except with more springs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:24:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:15:55
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:07:13
    I swear, there is a different pic. i know because it's only one photo, and each spring has it's weight under it, in a black font

    Are you confusing that one I linked with the Korean spring comparison photo?

    nope, im still looking for it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:24:50
    Tired of chasing your rumors. Find pictures or tell me the sources. This is the one I was referring to.

    (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/calaveratf/keyboards/DSCF2439txt2_zps8d1e41b7.jpg~original)

    From calavera's GB thread and my review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:25:28
    implying i was withholding the picture  :)) :)) :))

    thats the one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:29:51
    Nope just implying that I have no idea what picture you're looking for and I was tired of Googling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:31:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:29:51
    Nope just implying that I have no idea what picture you're looking for and I was tired of Googling.

    ok well i was looking for it too, but you beat me too it. that is the one i was talking about..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:33:19
    No worries. I found that Ripster album which was pretty cool so it paid off. Wasn't sure if you had seen something else is all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:35:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:15:55
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:07:13
    I swear, there is a different pic. i know because it's only one photo, and each spring has it's weight under it, in a black font

    Are you confusing that one I linked with the Korean spring comparison photo?

    Yeah, I think the one he's referring to is from Calavera's Korean spring GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 31 July 2013, 14:35:43
    It was actually good to post the Ripster one, he had stock cherry springs, Calavera's had korean springs.

    still, i can personally poke out a stock clear spring  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:29:33
    I recently bough a model M.

    Some keys are really hard to push, and sometimes they take a while to return up.

    Is there some guide / known way to fix this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:31:12
    Quote from: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:29:33
    I recently bough a model M.

    Some keys are really hard to push, and sometimes they take a while to return up.

    Is there some guide / known way to fix this?

    You'll want to look for fohat.dig's guide on bolt modding. He explains how to clean the board and if you want, how to bolt mod the board. It just sounds dirty.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:33:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:31:12
    Quote from: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:29:33
    I recently bough a model M.

    Some keys are really hard to push, and sometimes they take a while to return up.

    Is there some guide / known way to fix this?

    You'll want to look for fohat.dig's guide on bolt modding. He explains how to clean the board and if you want, how to bolt mod the board. It just sounds dirty.

    Yes, I read that one in the wiki, but I got the impression that it was for a different problem! I'll try reading it again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:34:12
    No fohat.dig's guide isnt the one in the Wiki...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:35:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:34:12
    No fohat.dig's guide isnt the one in the Wiki...

    Oh, okay. I'll search for that one then. Tks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:35:58
    Quote from: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:33:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:31:12
    Quote from: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:29:33
    I recently bough a model M.

    Some keys are really hard to push, and sometimes they take a while to return up.

    Is there some guide / known way to fix this?

    You'll want to look for fohat.dig's guide on bolt modding. He explains how to clean the board and if you want, how to bolt mod the board. It just sounds dirty.

    Yes, I read that one in the wiki, but I got the impression that it was for a different problem! I'll try reading it again.

    Could also be because a previous owner removed some of the key guides under the double-size keys, and re-inserted them incorrectly.  Do you have single-space keys sticking, or only the Return, Backspace, and Enter keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:41:50
    Quote from: Greystoke on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:35:58

    Could also be because a previous owner removed some of the key guides under the double-size keys, and re-inserted them incorrectly.  Do you have single-space keys sticking, or only the Return, Backspace, and Enter keys?

    Only in some single-space keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:54:23
    Quote from: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:41:50
    Quote from: Greystoke on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:35:58

    Could also be because a previous owner removed some of the key guides under the double-size keys, and re-inserted them incorrectly.  Do you have single-space keys sticking, or only the Return, Backspace, and Enter keys?

    Only in some single-space keys.

    Sounds like it's beyond the scope of a "simple answer."   :-\

    Best approach would be a thorough Model M cleaning, then figure out if you need to pursue the bolt mod option.  I've done one, it's not tough, but time-consuming.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:57:25
    Quote from: Greystoke on Wed, 31 July 2013, 17:54:23
    Sounds like it's beyond the scope of a "simple answer."   :-\

    Best approach would be a thorough Model M cleaning, then figure out if you need to pursue the bolt mod option.  I've done one, it's not tough, but time-consuming.

    Oh well. I'll clean it then. Thanks for the help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 18:31:42
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 16:05:13
    I'm thinking about having these modded onto my board: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-2x3x4-mm-Rectangle-White-Diffused-LED-Leds-Lamp-Free-Resistors-/321161076422?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac6b11ec6

    It says: "This is for 100pcs 2x3x4mm Rectangle White Diffused LED Leds Bulb Light Lamp + 100pcs 1/4W 470ohm Resistors"
    Will those resistors work for our keyboards? Poker 2
    Quote from another thread. Thought id ask here too for more exposure. Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 18:42:43
    Doesnt the Poker 2 already have SMD resistors for the PCB since there is a backlit version? Doesnt make sense to make 2 diff PCBs. I dont think you'll need the resistors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 18:47:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 18:42:43
    Doesnt the Poker 2 already have SMD resistors for the PCB since there is a backlit version? Doesnt make sense to make 2 diff PCBs. I dont think you'll need the resistors.

    Okay so I can just buy LEDs and install them? :o
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 18:49:30
    Definitely check or take a pic of the PCB so we can verify but no, I don't think so. DOUBLE CHECK THOUGH. I'm not responsible if you dont verify yourself and break something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 31 July 2013, 19:08:44
    I will be taking apart my massdrop poker II when it arrives.

    I couldn't find a picture of a poker II pcb on my quick search, but it was not an in depth search at all.

    I'm pretty sure my nonbacklit pure I'm using does not have resistors, but I can doublesheck if anyone is interested.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 31 July 2013, 19:09:46
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 18:47:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 18:42:43
    Doesnt the Poker 2 already have SMD resistors for the PCB since there is a backlit version? Doesnt make sense to make 2 diff PCBs. I dont think you'll need the resistors.

    Okay so I can just buy LEDs and install them? :o

    There are already SMD resistors, although I haven't checked the value of them. Ideally you'd want to match resistor value with the LED voltage, but I think most color and voltages should be ok.

    You need to remove solder from the holes first (the small circle and square holes), install LED, clip excess leads, then solder. Pay attention to polarity. Here is a pic of poker2 PCB from my review thread:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0)
    (http://i.imgur.com/XuFi8So.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/XuFi8So.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 19:56:24
    Is it wrong for me to say I love you WhiteFireDragon? Thank you for the knowledge
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 20:30:55
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 31 July 2013, 19:09:46
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 31 July 2013, 18:47:09
    Show Image
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 18:42:43
    Doesnt the Poker 2 already have SMD resistors for the PCB since there is a backlit version? Doesnt make sense to make 2 diff PCBs. I dont think you'll need the resistors.

    Okay so I can just buy LEDs and install them? :o

    There are already SMD resistors, although I haven't checked the value of them. Ideally you'd want to match resistor value with the LED voltage, but I think most color and voltages should be ok.

    You need to remove solder from the holes first (the small circle and square holes), install LED, clip excess leads, then solder. Pay attention to polarity. Here is a pic of poker2 PCB from my review thread:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0)
    (http://i.imgur.com/XuFi8So.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/XuFi8So.jpg)

    I'll show my ignorance. I realize on the PCB there is a square and circle representing differing polarity, but how is polarity indicated on the LEDs ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 31 July 2013, 20:32:13
    1) Longer leg is always positive.
    2) Near the bottom of the plastic, the chipped part is negative side
    3) Look straight through the plastic, and you can see a diagonal gap. The side where the gap is on top is positive.


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 19:56:24
    Is it wrong for me to say I love you WhiteFireDragon? Thank you for the knowledge

    <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 20:34:21
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 31 July 2013, 20:32:13
    Longer leg is always positive.

    Thank you WFD!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 31 July 2013, 20:44:07
    Show Image
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 31 July 2013, 19:09:46
    There are already SMD resistors, although I haven't checked the value of them. Ideally you'd want to match resistor value with the LED voltage, but I think most color and voltages should be ok.
    (http://i.imgur.com/XuFi8So.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/XuFi8So.jpg)

    EDIT: from my own pic, it looks like the resistor's value is either 195ohm or 561ohm. Resistors have no polarity, so I can't which side is right side up. I'll verify with a multimeter when I get home.

    Before, I couldn't see this tiny printed text with naked eye, good thing camera is high res  ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlagrantWolf on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:15:34
    I'm thinking about buying either the Quickfire Rapid or Quickfire XT. Do they both have similarly good build quality? Also, do they have a common key size and is it easy to find keycaps for them?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:24:49
    Quote from: FlagrantWolf on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:15:34
    I'm thinking about buying either the Quickfire Rapid or Quickfire XT.

    1)Do they both have similarly good build quality?
    2) Also, do they have a common key size and is it easy to find keycaps for them?

    1) Should have the same build quality.
    2) XT looks like ANSI 1.25x so the caps are easily replaced and available. QFR is ANSI 1.25x so caps are easy to find like I said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlagrantWolf on Wed, 31 July 2013, 21:47:21
    Thank you for the help :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Wed, 31 July 2013, 22:56:08
    What is a search gnome? Reference below;

    More
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 31 July 2013, 22:49:51
    Quote from: Lu_e on Wed, 31 July 2013, 22:03:38
    Yo dudes, i've been wondering...

    Since CC always says to put your GH username in the subject line of emails, does that mean these are intended to go to GH members only?

    & how can he even make sure they're a member when this forum doesn't even have a public 'members list' ...like most forums?

    Just one thing i've been wondering. Especially with the lack of pictures in the cc media thread... kinda sad. Feels like everyone should be so pumped to post their hauls up? But im sure most of the cc go to random non-members anyway... right? ...

    Or I am wrong? there is a GH members list available to him for this purpose? or moderators are involved? What is the point of asking for our user name then? blacklist only?

    jw

    I suspect this is a sale especially for GH.

    I do not know if he does the same for other keyboard forums, but I suspect not.

    We are very lucky :)

    He also probably has search gnomes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 01 August 2013, 01:02:10
    Quote from: lazerpointer on Wed, 31 July 2013, 22:56:08
    What is a search gnome? Reference below;

    More
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 31 July 2013, 22:49:51
    Quote from: Lu_e on Wed, 31 July 2013, 22:03:38
    Yo dudes, i've been wondering...

    Since CC always says to put your GH username in the subject line of emails, does that mean these are intended to go to GH members only?

    & how can he even make sure they're a member when this forum doesn't even have a public 'members list' ...like most forums?

    Just one thing i've been wondering. Especially with the lack of pictures in the cc media thread... kinda sad. Feels like everyone should be so pumped to post their hauls up? But im sure most of the cc go to random non-members anyway... right? ...

    Or I am wrong? there is a GH members list available to him for this purpose? or moderators are involved? What is the point of asking for our user name then? blacklist only?

    jw

    I suspect this is a sale especially for GH.

    I do not know if he does the same for other keyboard forums, but I suspect not.

    We are very lucky :)

    He also probably has search gnomes.

    ClickClack has always claimed that his Clack Factory keycaps are hald-crafted by him and his gnomes.

    It was postulated that he also had a cluster of gnomes who searched Geekack for him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hades on Thu, 01 August 2013, 04:35:51
    Is the usb on on the pcb replaceable?
    Ex) poker pcb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 01 August 2013, 04:38:28
    Quote from: Hades on Thu, 01 August 2013, 04:35:51
    Is the usb on on the pcb replaceable?
    Ex) poker pcb

    Do you mean if you could replace the connector if it was broken? If so, then yes, why not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 06:07:58
    Quote from: Hades on Thu, 01 August 2013, 04:35:51
    Is the usb on on the pcb replaceable?
    Ex) poker pcb

    Like BlueBar said, please clarify your question. I'm not understanding what you're asking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 01 August 2013, 09:02:13
    Would leads clipped from spare LED's work as pins to solder a Teensy to a PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 01 August 2013, 09:02:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 01 August 2013, 09:02:13
    Would leads clipped from spare LED's work as pins to solder a Teensy to a PCB?
    Yeah.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 01 August 2013, 09:11:51
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 01 August 2013, 09:02:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 01 August 2013, 09:02:13
    Would leads clipped from spare LED's work as pins to solder a Teensy to a PCB?
    Yeah.

    Excellent thanks Photekq
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 01 August 2013, 10:06:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 01 August 2013, 09:02:13
    Would leads clipped from spare LED's work as pins to solder a Teensy to a PCB?

    ^^ I was seriously thinking about asking that same thing!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 01 August 2013, 10:08:59
    leads clipped from the through hole diodes will work also.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 01 August 2013, 10:26:23
    That could work as I will have spares of those.  But only about half as many cut leads as it is going to be a hardwired matrix.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hades on Thu, 01 August 2013, 10:45:43
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 01 August 2013, 04:38:28
    Quote from: Hades on Thu, 01 August 2013, 04:35:51
    Is the usb on on the pcb replaceable?
    Ex) poker pcb

    Do you mean if you could replace the connector if it was broken? If so, then yes, why not.

    Yes, the connector; just have to desolder the broken one and solder on a new one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 01 August 2013, 10:52:03
    Quote from: Hades on Thu, 01 August 2013, 10:45:43
    Yes, the connector; just have to desolder the broken one and solder on a new one?
    Yes. You can do this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 01 August 2013, 11:15:16
    Thanks for all the information concerning LEDs WFD!! and others who chimed in (see page 112)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Thu, 01 August 2013, 11:25:36
    This thread is by far my favourite one :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 11:57:27
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 01 August 2013, 11:25:36
    This thread is by far my favourite one :)

    Quote from: kenmai9 on Thu, 01 August 2013, 11:15:16
    Thanks for all the information concerning LEDs WFD!! and others who chimed in (see page 112)

    Thanks, I'm rather fond of this thread. Pretty happy one of my pet projects turned into something cool. Couldn't have done it without the community though ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: aesthetics1 on Thu, 01 August 2013, 12:46:12
    Can you replace the bottom row of a Topre Realforce board so that it has uniformly sized mods? (1.25x I believe?)

    Not a fan of the larger mods with smaller WinKey.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 12:48:47
    Quote from: aesthetics1 on Thu, 01 August 2013, 12:46:12
    Can you replace the bottom row of a Topre Realforce board so that it has uniformly sized mods? (1.25x I believe?)

    I think you can if you take the time to stem modify a whole bunch mods. Otherwise, the spacing of the switches in the case won't allow you to swap caps like that. It's the same issue if I try to put a Tsangan kit on an ANSI 1.25x board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: aesthetics1 on Thu, 01 August 2013, 12:57:25
    Thanks.. Can you elaborate just a bit regarding stem modding?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 13:00:19
    Quote from: aesthetics1 on Thu, 01 August 2013, 12:57:25
    Thanks.. Can you elaborate just a bit regarding stem modding?

    Cut the stem off, reglue them into a place that you want them to be so the caps line up the way you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 01 August 2013, 14:12:49
    Quote from: aesthetics1 on Thu, 01 August 2013, 12:46:12
    Can you replace the bottom row of a Topre Realforce board so that it has uniformly sized mods? (1.25x I believe?)

    It's actually not possible without any compromise. First of all, replacement 1.25x modifiers don't exist. Even if they do, and you decide to do the stem mod like CPT mentioned, there will be at least 1 small gap on the bottom row. All topre spacebars are 6.0x size, you need a 6.25x size spacebar to fill all gaps if you are to use 1.25x modifiers, and a 6.25x topre spacebar does not exist.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 14:15:30
    Hehe, WFD saved me from my lack of Topre knowledge ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: aesthetics1 on Thu, 01 August 2013, 15:39:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 14:15:30
    Hehe, WFD saved me from my lack of Topre knowledge ^__^

    Thanks! Appreciate the answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 20:56:32
    Is there a place I can get some more info on buckling springs? The search function isn't working for me right now, and I think it has something to do with my being on a military computer. They like to restrict functions that don't do anybody any harm.

    Specifically, I'd like some info on what brands I should be looking at for a modern buckling spring keyboard, though I'd take some threads on how they work as well. I've got a base knowledge of MX and Topre, and I'd like to understand BS as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:03:17
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 20:56:32
    Is there a place I can get some more info on buckling springs? The search function isn't working for me right now, and I think it has something to do with my being on a military computer. They like to restrict functions that don't do anybody any harm.

    Specifically, I'd like some info on what brands I should be looking at for a modern buckling spring keyboard, though I'd take some threads on how they work as well. I've got a base knowledge of MX and Topre, and I'd like to understand BS as well.

    I think only Unicomp makes BS nowadays.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:21:33
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:03:17
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 20:56:32
    Is there a place I can get some more info on buckling springs? The search function isn't working for me right now, and I think it has something to do with my being on a military computer. They like to restrict functions that don't do anybody any harm.

    Specifically, I'd like some info on what brands I should be looking at for a modern buckling spring keyboard, though I'd take some threads on how they work as well. I've got a base knowledge of MX and Topre, and I'd like to understand BS as well.

    I think only Unicomp makes BS nowadays.

    I concur that Unicomp is the only maker that i know of that makes new buckling spring keyboards.  They can be found here.  http://www.pckeyboard.com/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:26:46
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 20:56:32
    Is there a place I can get some more info on buckling springs? The search function isn't working for me right now, and I think it has something to do with my being on a military computer. They like to restrict functions that don't do anybody any harm.

    Specifically, I'd like some info on what brands I should be looking at for a modern buckling spring keyboard, though I'd take some threads on how they work as well. I've got a base knowledge of MX and Topre, and I'd like to understand BS as well.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Buckling_Spring: General knowledge including a really cool GIF.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33430.0: SSKR project

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40111.0: Also this, custom membrane project

    Not new but it is modern:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40006.0: M-60% Project from ronwisekoi

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44875.0: The_Beast's 60% M
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:53:13
    thanks guys, I'll go make learnin' happen
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:54:49
    wait, buckling spring is -less- than MX?

    But considered by many to be better, and is not nearly as common?

    Considering the trend of less widely available mean twice the price, I find this surprising.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:59:38
    okay okay.

    So the actuation is cause by the buckling, which changes the angle of the bottom part of the spring, closing the circuit?
    That seems... unreliable. I feel like buckling a spring just isn't that consistent, and there's too many variables involved. Wouldn't the actuation depth as well as the force required change per key switch? And if it does, is it enough to throw somebody off?

    I can see why this is one of the earlier designs, but I'm finding it difficult to believe that it's still viable. I feel like the other methods would be more reliable.

    Now, obviously, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I haven't tried it, I have no frame of reference, this is just based on the concept of the switch. It feels crude and unrefined.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sniping on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:02:56
    Monterey blue vs MX Blue feel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AKIMbO on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:04:30
    Quote from: Sniping on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:02:56
    Monterey blue vs MX Blue feel?

    MX Blue= Pretty light switch with a plastic sounded click (high pitched).  Actuation and click is in the middle of the keystroke.
    Mont Blues= Medium heavy switch with a deeper click sound.  Tactile bump is at the top of the switch. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:08:15
    First off PLEASE EDIT YOUR POSTS. Triple posting??

    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:54:49
    1) wait, buckling spring is -less- than MX?
    2) but considered by many to be better, and is not nearly as common?

    1) Less in cost? They can be. Depends on the BS board.
    2) It's not common because they're not really made anymore. And "better"? I don't know about that. People are huge IBM enthusiasts but its personal opinion of course. I refuse to say "better" or "worse" in this thread.


    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:59:38
    1) So the actuation is cause by the buckling, which changes the angle of the bottom part of the spring, closing the circuit?
    That seems... unreliable. I feel like buckling a spring just isn't that consistent, and there's too many variables involved. Wouldn't the actuation depth as well as the force required change per key switch? And if it does, is it enough to throw somebody off?

    2) I can see why this is one of the earlier designs, but I'm finding it difficult to believe that it's still viable. I feel like the other methods would be more reliable.

    1) It works fine. Actuation feels like the other switches. There's not really any inconsistency. And I don't think stock Cherry boards will last 30+ years with constant use like IBM boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:14:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:08:15
    First off PLEASE EDIT YOUR POSTS. Triple posting??

    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:54:49
    1) wait, buckling spring is -less- than MX?
    2) but considered by many to be better, and is not nearly as common?

    1) Less in cost? They can be. Depends on the BS board.
    2) It's not common because they're not really made anymore. And "better"? I don't know about that. People are huge IBM enthusiasts but its personal opinion of course. I refuse to say "better" or "worse" in this thread.


    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 21:59:38
    1) So the actuation is cause by the buckling, which changes the angle of the bottom part of the spring, closing the circuit?
    That seems... unreliable. I feel like buckling a spring just isn't that consistent, and there's too many variables involved. Wouldn't the actuation depth as well as the force required change per key switch? And if it does, is it enough to throw somebody off?

    2) I can see why this is one of the earlier designs, but I'm finding it difficult to believe that it's still viable. I feel like the other methods would be more reliable.

    1) It works fine. Actuation fees like the other switches. There's not really any inconsistency. And I don't think stock Cherry boards will last 30+ years with constant use like IBM boards.

    You make valid points, Cap. They're proven. Maybe I should just suck it up and try one. Is unicomp a reliable company?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:15:41
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:14:07
    You make valid points, Cap. They're proven. Maybe I should just suck it up and try one. Is unicomp a reliable company?

    They have a poor customer service. I've sent messages that were never replied. Perhaps now they have released the new layouts and have stock they will. I read here however similar opinions on that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:16:22
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:14:07
    You make valid points, Cap. They're proven. Maybe I should just suck it up and try one. Is unicomp a reliable company?

    I've never typed on a Unicomp so I have no personal opinion on their boards. I've heard that they make nice boards and there's the usual divide of people. Some people like Unicomps, some like IBM. FWIW, they worked with GH to make caps and they have a vendor forum here. I had SSK parts ordered from them too so that's a plus for them in my book.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sniping on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:34:42
    Quote from: AKIMbO on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:04:30
    Quote from: Sniping on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:02:56
    Monterey blue vs MX Blue feel?

    MX Blue= Pretty light switch with a plastic sounded click (high pitched).  Actuation and click is in the middle of the keystroke.
    Mont Blues= Medium heavy switch with a deeper click sound.  Tactile bump is at the top of the switch.

    Thanks man! Is the common keyboard with those alps switches the Chicony 5181 or something like that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AKIMbO on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:56:50
    Quote from: Sniping on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:34:42
    Quote from: AKIMbO on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:04:30
    Quote from: Sniping on Thu, 01 August 2013, 22:02:56
    Monterey blue vs MX Blue feel?

    MX Blue= Pretty light switch with a plastic sounded click (high pitched).  Actuation and click is in the middle of the keystroke.
    Mont Blues= Medium heavy switch with a deeper click sound.  Tactile bump is at the top of the switch.

    Thanks man! Is the common keyboard with those alps switches the Chicony 5181 or something like that?

    Chicony KB5181 (also came with cherry mx blues)
    Siig Minitouch (also came with crappy ALPs knock off switches)
    Mtek104 (dunno if this came with other switch varieties)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tns on Sat, 03 August 2013, 03:35:10
    did we had a review of MKC 87?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 03 August 2013, 03:51:05
    Quote from: tns on Sat, 03 August 2013, 03:35:10
    did we had a review of MKC 87?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39592.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tns on Sat, 03 August 2013, 04:05:38
    Quote from: domoaligato on Sat, 03 August 2013, 03:51:05
    Quote from: tns on Sat, 03 August 2013, 03:35:10
    did we had a review of MKC 87?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39592.0
    Hmm
    haha ok I'll try to translate xD
    http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-457822-1-1.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Sat, 03 August 2013, 04:07:52
    Can you install LEDs on a keycool 87 (pbt caps version)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 03 August 2013, 05:58:03
    Quote from: Narcix on Sat, 03 August 2013, 04:07:52
    Can you install LEDs on a keycool 87 (pbt caps version)?

    No. If you look at the PCB here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36115.0) there's only spots for LEDs on the lock keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Sat, 03 August 2013, 07:57:04
    Is the keycool 87 spacebar normally replaceable or it is weird like leopold's?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 03 August 2013, 08:04:41
    The same thread has pictures of the spacebar showing that it's replaceable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Sat, 03 August 2013, 10:10:41
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 03 August 2013, 08:04:41
    The same thread has pictures of the spacebar showing that it's replaceable.
    Oh, where is ma mind today!!  :eek:
    Thanks for your patience  :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 03 August 2013, 10:11:43
    Does GMK purple [the one from the recent group buy] match any SP color codes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 03 August 2013, 10:28:25
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 03 August 2013, 10:11:43
    Does GMK purple [the one from the recent group buy] match any SP color codes?

    Check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.msg960617#msg960617).

    I think RDA matches the mods?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 03 August 2013, 10:29:31
    Quote from: Narcix on Sat, 03 August 2013, 10:10:41
    Oh, where is ma mind today!!  :eek:
    Thanks for your patience  :cool:

    Actually my fault, was a different thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43143.0).

    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sat, 03 August 2013, 10:11:43
    Does GMK purple [the one from the recent group buy] match any SP color codes?

    You probably can't find an exact match. I tried to find out what would be the closest, searched through this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37786.0) for comparison pictures but couldn't really find anything. On page 20 and 21 are some color samples including their codes though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tns on Sat, 03 August 2013, 10:54:03
    where can I find that "dragon"/"looks like mortal kombat dragon" (aluminium?/zinc?) keycap?
    thx :D

    edit : nvm i found it on feng's x))
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34409.0;attach=3772;image
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Sat, 03 August 2013, 12:14:51
    How does one take off the LED on the Vortex Pure caps lock? Does the light just screw off???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 03 August 2013, 12:22:11
    You will have to desolder it on the other side of the PCB. In my beginner guide to keyboard modding (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46376.0) there's some info on how to take a keyboard apart, also look into the adding LEDs chapter to see which spots to desolder. If you want to use the LED again, make sure to mark the lead which was in the square hole, this is the positive lead.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueasjim on Sat, 03 August 2013, 13:05:37
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 03 August 2013, 12:22:11
    You will have to desolder it on the other side of the PCB. In my beginner guide to keyboard modding (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46376.0) there's some info on how to take a keyboard apart, also look into the adding LEDs chapter to see which spots to desolder. If you want to use the LED again, make sure to mark the lead which was in the square hole, this is the positive lead.

    Thank you :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tns on Sun, 04 August 2013, 04:18:07
    What are the differences (if there are  ;D) between : MKCs GK MY87, GK 87A, GK87AS?

    Thx :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 04 August 2013, 06:38:06
    Quote from: tns on Sun, 04 August 2013, 04:18:07
    What are the differences (if there are  ;D) between : MKCs GK MY87, GK 87A, GK87AS?

    The GK87-A (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39524.0) was the first aluminium case keyboard made by MKC, it has an extremly simplistic design, bascially just a rectangle with rounded corner, flat on the sides and bottom, with attachable keyboard feet.
    The GK MY87 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34606.0) is angled by default and has a curve on the left and right side. It does not seem to have attachable keyboard feet.

    I couldn't find a link to the GK87-AS, if you have one maybe I could help you out further. I suspect it's a smaller case for a 60% board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tns on Sun, 04 August 2013, 06:48:29
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 04 August 2013, 06:38:06
    Quote from: tns on Sun, 04 August 2013, 04:18:07
    What are the differences (if there are  ;D) between : MKCs GK MY87, GK 87A, GK87AS?

    The GK87-A (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39524.0) was the first aluminium case made by MKC, it has an extremly simplistic design, bascially just a rectangle with rounded corner, flat on the sides and bottom, with attachable keyboard feet.
    The GK MY87 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34606.0) is angled by default and has a curve on the left and right side. It does not seem to have attachable keyboard feet.

    I couldn't find a link to the GK87-AS, if you have one maybe I could help you out further. I suspect it's a smaller case for a 60% board?

    Then GK MY87 is an only case.
    and the GK87-A is their first complete keyboard?

    87AS
    Was reading something on Feng's groupbuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44651.msg937006#msg937006)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 04 August 2013, 07:05:09
    Yes, the MY is only the case whilst the GK87-A and AS are actual keyboards. Just found the chinese forum of MKC and auto translate says that the GK87-AS is a lighter variant of the GK87-A: http://mkcws.net/thread-23135-1-1.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: e4stw00t on Sun, 04 August 2013, 08:09:18
    Just got a Quickfire Storm Rapid and recognized the space bar is not even but a bit crooked. The bar seems to be rather loose and the right end of it closer to the casing than the left side - guess it's coming from the way the stabilizer effects the key. So far I can't say that it effects the board in any way but somehow it's now in my head that I have a flawed board  :-[. Is this how it's supposed to look like?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 04 August 2013, 08:15:39
    Can you take a picture of it? Normally the stabilizers should neither make it feel loose nor affect its angle.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 04 August 2013, 09:20:34
    Quote from: e4stw00t on Sun, 04 August 2013, 08:09:18
    Just got a Quickfire Storm Rapid and recognized the space bar is not even but a bit crooked. The bar seems to be rather loose and the right end of it closer to the casing than the left side - guess it's coming from the way the stabilizer effects the key. So far I can't say that it effects the board in any way but somehow it's now in my head that I have a flawed board  :-[. Is this how it's supposed to look like?

    Sounds like maybe the stabilizers aren't attached or seated well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 August 2013, 10:28:47
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:14:58
    Also, I'd love to see a pic or two illustrating thin vs med vs thick PBT, just so I have a reference.

    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8499763287_712c9ab6ed_o.jpg)

    Borrowed from Mashby's flickr

    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/HeartagramBMXR/IMG_3878.jpg)

    Picture from this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38278.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: e4stw00t on Sun, 04 August 2013, 11:03:20
    Unfortunately I don't have a camera here at the moment but I used a picture to illustrate it. My space bar is not even but the right side is closer to the keyboard casing. It's quiet loose on that side and becomes even only if I press the right bottom corner of the bar towards the < key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 August 2013, 11:09:24
    Quote from: e4stw00t on Sun, 04 August 2013, 11:03:20
    Unfortunately I don't have a camera here at the moment but I used a picture to illustrate it. My space bar is not even but the right side is closer to the keyboard casing. It's quiet loose on that side and becomes even only if I press the right bottom corner of the bar towards the < key.



    Should've taken the picture without the spacebar on it but it looks like one of the stabilizer wires came unhooked and you need to reseat it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 04 August 2013, 11:17:26
    Oh I thought the spacebar itself was bent or something. Remove the alt keys and lift the spacebar from both sides carefully. Check if the stabilzer inserts (the white tiny things) are seated in the spacebar and the stabilizer wire is seated in the stabs themselves. Here's a video that could help:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 04 August 2013, 13:57:43
    Quote from: e4stw00t on Sun, 04 August 2013, 11:03:20
    Unfortunately I don't have a camera here at the moment but I used a picture to illustrate it. My space bar is not even but the right side is closer to the keyboard casing. It's quiet loose on that side and becomes even only if I press the right bottom corner of the bar towards the < key.

    sounds to me like you have one of the stabilizer inserts turned the wrong way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 04 August 2013, 15:26:00
    I have some questions regarding LEDs, I know that the 2x3x4mm LEDs all run at about the same voltage, but I'm pretty bad when it comes to electronics. So:
    1. Some colors run at a lower voltage than what is supplied by most PCBs. Is there a list of which colors run at the correct voltage?
    2. Is there a recommended voltage for the LEDs? I read about 3-3.4V?
    3. At the voltage supplied from the PCB the LED should not explode if it is too high for it, maybe smoke a bit. Could the PCB get damaged with the wrong LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Sun, 04 August 2013, 16:28:19
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 04 August 2013, 15:26:00
    I have some questions regarding LEDs, I know that the 2x3x4mm LEDs all run at about the same voltage, but I'm pretty bad when it comes to electronics. So:
    1. Some colors run at a lower voltage than what is supplied by most PCBs. Is there a list of which colors run at the correct voltage?
    2. Is there a recommended voltage for the LEDs? I read about 3-3.4V?
    3. At the voltage supplied from the PCB the LED should not explode if it is too high for it, maybe smoke a bit. Could the PCB get damaged with the wrong LEDs?

    Most 3mm LED's except red and yellow should run at about 3.3V. The rest should run at about 2V.

    Over-volting by 1V should not explode the LED or damage the PCB, however it may make the LED's not last as long or result in an incorrect color. Exploding usually occurs at higher voltages, such as plugging it directly to the wall outlet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 04 August 2013, 16:36:54
    Alright thanks for the information!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 04 August 2013, 17:00:11

    directly to a 5v rail of a computer psu
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glenn315 on Sun, 04 August 2013, 20:19:55
    Regarding Realforce topre keyboards, why do most people prefer tenkeyless uniform weighted ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kayliss on Sun, 04 August 2013, 20:23:04
    Anyone able to tell me how I can roughly figure out spring weight?  :rolleyes:

    I bought some 2nd hand switches and found today as I was getting ready to mod them that most of them have gold springs, I have no idea what weight they are though, they'll just be thrown in the parts box anyway but curiousity has got the better of me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 August 2013, 20:33:45
    Quote from: Glenn315 on Sun, 04 August 2013, 20:19:55
    Regarding Realforce topre keyboards, why do most people prefer tenkeyless uniform weighted ones?

    Uniform weighted boards feel really weird imo, regardless of the switch. But this is subjective.

    Quote from: Kayliss on Sun, 04 August 2013, 20:23:04
    Anyone able to tell me how I can roughly figure out spring weight?  :rolleyes:

    I bought some 2nd hand switches and found today as I was getting ready to mod them that most of them have gold springs, I have no idea what weight they are though, they'll just be thrown in the parts box anyway but curiousity has got the better of me.

    Put a bunch of coins on them. Stateside, we know that nickels are roughly 5 grams so you stack nickels on the switch until it actuates and then you count how many grams you have stacked on it. I think you're in Australia? So I'm not sure what the coins weigh there. Quick Google search might reveal weights though.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 04 August 2013, 20:39:57
    Quote from: Glenn315 on Sun, 04 August 2013, 20:19:55
    Regarding Realforce topre keyboards, why do most people prefer tenkeyless uniform weighted ones?

    Tenkeyless takes up less desk space and is consider more ergonomic as you can have your mouse closer.

    Uniform weight is more forgiving of unorthodox typing methods and gaming, whereas variable weights is oriented strictly towards touch-typing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 04 August 2013, 21:06:39
    I'm looking to mod a 60% keyboard to vintage Blacks and add various color LEDs at some point in the future.  Am I correct that Poker I would require the least amount of work for that?  Or does it not have resistors pre installed for LEDs?  Same goes for Poker II, but that one needs to have solder removed from the LED holes on the PCB first = extra work.  Would I be better with a Pure in terms of not modifying LED resistors?

    (Also, is there any practical difference between Poker I and II, or just minor differences, if Ill be using custom caps and adding a plate either way?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 August 2013, 21:24:28
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 04 August 2013, 21:06:39
    1)Am I correct that Poker I would require the least amount of work for that? 
    2) Or does it not have resistors pre installed for LEDs? 
    3) Same goes for Poker II, but that one needs to have solder removed from the LED holes on the PCB first = extra work.  4) Would I be better with a Pure in terms of not modifying LED resistors?
    5) Also, is there any practical difference between Poker I and II, or just minor differences, if Ill be using custom caps and adding a plate either way?

    1) It is PCB mounted so that makes it a bit easier
    2) It doesn't have full LED support
    3) Poker 2 is plated
    4) Pure already has the LED resistors on it so that's a plus
    5) Poker 2 is programmable and it *SHOULD* support LEDs already since there is suppsoed to be a fully LED supported variant. Question 1 seems a bit moot thought because if you're going to be plating it, you're not really going to save any time. Pure and Poker X/1 are PCB mounted but you have to desolder anyways to add the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 04 August 2013, 21:48:04
    The Poker X aka Poker ver 1 has holes with solder pads for LEDs at every switch location, but there are no traces going to the LEDs, other than the 7 that come standard. If you install LEDs in other switches, you will have to manually wire every LED location. Then jumper power for the LEDs off one or more existing LED locations. That's why I charged $25 to do an LED mod to the original Poker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stealthycow on Sun, 04 August 2013, 22:24:06
    what's a ripster


    edit: seriously
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 05 August 2013, 02:05:20
    Quote from: stealthycow on Sun, 04 August 2013, 22:24:06
    what's a ripster


    edit: seriously

    A former Geekhack member, who was perma-banned some time ago.

    He can still be found on Reddit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 05 August 2013, 02:16:00
    Anyone know if there was ever any Alps keycaps made with a power symbol?

    Edit:  Is it bad that I bid on a WYSE terminal keyboard for the purpose of 2 caps from it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 05 August 2013, 05:36:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 05 August 2013, 02:16:00
    Anyone know if there was ever any Alps keycaps made with a power symbol?

    Edit:  Is it bad that I bid on a WYSE terminal keyboard for the purpose of 2 caps from it?

    No, it is showing a true GH spirit :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Mon, 05 August 2013, 06:01:52
    Does anyone know if it is possible to say convert a PS/2 PCB into a removeable mini usb accepting controller? (Or what I'm saying is use a usb wire instead of a ps/2 with modding)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 06:05:43
    Quote from: Meiosis on Mon, 05 August 2013, 06:01:52
    Does anyone know if it is possible to say convert a PS/2 PCB into a removeable mini usb accepting controller? (Or what I'm saying is use a usb wire instead of a ps/2 with modding)

    Without modding? Probably a PS/2 to USB adapter then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Mon, 05 August 2013, 07:04:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 06:05:43
    Quote from: Meiosis on Mon, 05 August 2013, 06:01:52
    Does anyone know if it is possible to say convert a PS/2 PCB into a removeable mini usb accepting controller? (Or what I'm saying is use a usb wire instead of a ps/2 with modding)

    Without modding? Probably a PS/2 to USB adapter then.

    With modding*

    Like replacing the controller maybe, so that it houses an exterior mini usb female adapter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 07:06:18
    Quote from: Meiosis on Mon, 05 August 2013, 07:04:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 06:05:43
    Quote from: Meiosis on Mon, 05 August 2013, 06:01:52
    Does anyone know if it is possible to say convert a PS/2 PCB into a removeable mini usb accepting controller? (Or what I'm saying is use a usb wire instead of a ps/2 with modding)

    Without modding? Probably a PS/2 to USB adapter then.

    With modding*

    Sorry, obviously I misread. Look into a Teensy/Soarer Converter found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Mon, 05 August 2013, 10:07:32
    is it possible to fit the quickfire pro PCB in another case? Has anyone tried?
    I'm looking for a backlit full or tkl keyboard that has the LED diode at the top of the switch and that's not a Ducky (cuz all Ducky boards use Cherry stabilizer afaik, and I don't think it can be easily modded into Costar).
    quickfire pro seem to be the only choice but my gawd that cover looks ugly... (sorry)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 05 August 2013, 10:10:52
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 05 August 2013, 10:07:32
    is it possible to fit the quickfire pro PCB in another case? Has anyone tried?
    I'm looking for a backlit full or tkl keyboard that has the LED diode at the top of the switch and that's not a Ducky (cuz all Ducky boards use Cherry stabilizer afaik, and I don't think it can be easily modded into Costar).
    quickfire pro seem to be the only choice but my gawd that cover looks ugly... (sorry)

    I'd be careful with the quickfire pro, I'm not sure it is up to the same standards as the quickfire rapid. Perhaps things have changed but I know in the past it wasn't regarded very well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Mon, 05 August 2013, 13:25:18
    Is the keycool 87 compatible with other spacebars (like wasd ones, ecc)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 05 August 2013, 13:57:02
    Didn't you just ask that the page before?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sniping on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:02:48
    I don't expect an answer out of this but did anyone happen to go to the 626 Night Market in LA this weekend and happen to notice which keyboard they were using at the ticket booth? Something from IBM, but I forget what.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:03:48
    Quote from: Narcix on Mon, 05 August 2013, 13:25:18
    Is the keycool 87 compatible with other spacebars (like wasd ones, ecc)?


    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44769.0
    a simple search of "keycool 87 spacebar" would've sufficed (for next time)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:03:54
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 05 August 2013, 13:57:02
    Didn't you just ask that the page before?

    Yes, he did, but also, with the same effort as typing that, you could just answer his question again.

    Quote from: Narcix on Mon, 05 August 2013, 13:25:18
    Is the keycool 87 compatible with other spacebars (like wasd ones, ecc)?

    Yes, it is. At least the new ones are. Not sure about some of the older model Keycool 87s. I posted a review of my Keycool 87 in the reviews subforum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:04:07
    Quote from: Sniping on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:02:48
    I don't expect an answer out of this but did anyone happen to go to the 626 Night Market in LA this weekend and happen to notice which keyboard they were using at the ticket booth? Something from IBM, but I forget what.

    LOL. Best question of the thread hahaha. That's awesome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: QueenXenon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:04:13
    Everyone talks about getting custom plates, but no one ever says where they got them from (besides The Beast and WFD of course).  Are there sites like ExpressPCB but for plates?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:05:42
    Quote from: QueenXenon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:04:13
    Everyone talks about getting custom plates, but no one ever says where they got them from (besides The Beast and WFD of course).  Are there sites like ExpressPCB but for plates?

    People have machine shops that they're not willing to share publically for various reasons. Some people have a good relationship or know someone there or don't want people flooding the shop with orders which means they can't get their own. Metalliqaz recommended BigBlueSaw.

    You can always just PM The_Beast or WFD to get something made. I'm pretty sure they'll help you out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:07:27
    Quote from: QueenXenon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:04:13
    Everyone talks about getting custom plates, but no one ever says where they got them from (besides The Beast and WFD of course).  Are there sites like ExpressPCB but for plates?

    One-off plates I always get from The_Beast. I also found a place local to me with a laser cutter, but the end result was not as good as what I've gotten from the place The_Beast uses.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:09:31
    Why are you so awesome jdcarpe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:10:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:09:31
    Why are you so awesome jdcarpe?

    That's not a simple question, CPT. ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:16:41
    Quote from: QueenXenon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:04:13
    Everyone talks about getting custom plates, but no one ever says where they got them from (besides The Beast and WFD of course).  Are there sites like ExpressPCB but for plates?
    I got mine cut by a place called Yorkshire Profiles. £30 each for two prototype plates, insanely fast turnaround and brilliant service overall. The cuts were very clean also and the plate came perfectly flat.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:37:12
    Quote from: QueenXenon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:04:13
    Everyone talks about getting custom plates, but no one ever says where they got them from (besides The Beast and WFD of course).  Are there sites like ExpressPCB but for plates?

    Almost all custom plates on here were from group buys. I don't think there are any websites that allows you to just easily order one. Although, there are plenty laser cutting resources, but they're not cheap and require files. I got some of my prototype plates cut from Beast or my local place.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:39:34
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:37:12
    Almost all custom plates on here were from group buys. I don't think there are any websites that allows you to just easily order one. Although, there are plenty laser cutting resources, but they're not cheap and require files.

    They definitely aren't.  I could do it pretty cheaply if I were to make a bunch of them since I have Industrial Metal Supply and a hackerspace with the right equipment nearby, but just one is expensive.  And I know some shops near me won't even talk to you if you're only looking at running one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:08:35
    Isn't that exactly what I just said? Getting one costs a lot, that's why most custom plates on here are from group buys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Xenderwind on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:09:47
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:08:35
    Isn't that exactly what I just said? Getting one costs a lot, that's why most custom plates on here are from group buys.

    I think he meant "they definitely aren't" towards the part that said "they're not cheap"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:34:07
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:08:35
    Isn't that exactly what I just said? Getting one costs a lot, that's why most custom plates on here are from group buys.

    I was affirming what you said.  They definitely aren't was referencing the fact that they aren't cheap and I don't know of any websites that let you do just one easily.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:35:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 August 2013, 21:24:28
    Poker 2 is programmable and it *SHOULD* support LEDs already since there is suppsoed to be a fully LED supported variant.
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 04 August 2013, 21:48:04
    The Poker X aka Poker ver 1 has holes with solder pads for LEDs at every switch location, but there are no traces going to the LEDs, other than the 7 that come standard. If you install LEDs in other switches, you will have to manually wire every LED location. Then jumper power for the LEDs off one or more existing LED locations. That's why I charged $25 to do an LED mod to the original Poker.

    Thanks!!  So Poker II would be my best bet then (in addition to being programmable and already with a plate)?  In terms of resistors being preinstalled?  I know I'll have to remove the solder covering the LED holes first and solder in LEDs, but do I need to add resistors as well?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:38:32
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:35:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 August 2013, 21:24:28
    Poker 2 is programmable and it *SHOULD* support LEDs already since there is suppsoed to be a fully LED supported variant.
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 04 August 2013, 21:48:04
    The Poker X aka Poker ver 1 has holes with solder pads for LEDs at every switch location, but there are no traces going to the LEDs, other than the 7 that come standard. If you install LEDs in other switches, you will have to manually wire every LED location. Then jumper power for the LEDs off one or more existing LED locations. That's why I charged $25 to do an LED mod to the original Poker.

    1) I know I'll have to remove the solder covering the LED holes first and solder in LEDs, but do I need to add resistors as well?

    Right, that's what I meant by my quote. The SMD resistors *should* already be on the PCB. It doesn't make sense to have two PCBs: one with and one without the SMD resistors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:38:39
    If you want full LEDs, then poker2 will be the easiest one to do it on. It already has SMD resistors on there.

    Refer to THIS (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg980800#msg980800) post a few pages back. Man this thread moves way too quick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:42:10
    Damn I completely forgot about that post. Let me add it to the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: QueenXenon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:44:49
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:16:41
    I got mine cut by a place called Yorkshire Profiles. £30 each for two prototype plates, insanely fast turnaround and brilliant service overall. The cuts were very clean also and the plate came perfectly flat.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 14:05:42
    People have machine shops that they're not willing to share publically for various reasons. Some people have a good relationship or know someone there or don't want people flooding the shop with orders which means they can't get their own. Metalliqaz recommended BigBlueSaw.

    You can always just PM The_Beast or WFD to get something made. I'm pretty sure they'll help you out.

    Big Blue Saw has it's own built in 'drafting application', which since I currently don't have CAD is beneficial.  Is CAD significantly better than BBS's application such that it's worth getting my hands on CAD?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:46:31
    Quote from: QueenXenon on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:44:49
    Big Blue Saw has it's own built in 'drafting application', which since I currently don't have CAD is beneficial.  Is CAD significantly better than BBS's application such that it's worth getting my hands on CAD?

    Yes. I wouldn't trust anything but legit CAD software (Solidworks, Inventor, AutoCAD, etc) for drafting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:49:30
    For 2D CAD drawings, I really like QCAD from RibbonSoft. There is a "community edition" which is free to compile from source. I compiled it on Ubuntu with no problems at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:50:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 05 August 2013, 15:49:30
    For 2D CAD drawings, I really like QCAD from RibbonSoft. There is a "community edition" which is free to compile from source. I compiled it on Ubuntu with no problems at all.

    FWIW, I have Solidworks and AutoCAD. Inventor can be had for free from AutoDesk though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: boogerlad on Tue, 06 August 2013, 01:15:56
    Can anyone provide a link so that I may understand how the wiring works for open(nkro) matrix? I've seen http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42302.msg862665#msg862665 and http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20898.0 but I'm still not clear with how it works. Where do the diodes go? How to prevent short circuit? How to interface with Teensy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jalberstone on Tue, 06 August 2013, 01:34:50
    I got a DK9008G2 PRO PBT with clears about a month ago from mechanicalkeyboards.com, and from the first day I got it, I noticed that there is something wrong with my spacebar. It feels like something is blocking it from hitting the bottom(I know cherry stabilizers don't bottom out but bear with me). Its not as crisp as the spacebar on my ducky shine II and there is a really loud and annoying squeak every time i press the spacebar. I took it off and cleaned the inside and looked at the keyboard and saw that nothing was blocking it. Then I swapped the spacebars on my two boards and then there was no problem on the pro with the shine II spacebar, everything felt crisp and there was no squeak. On my shine II with the pro spacebar, it had the same problems: there was the annoying squeak and it did not feel good to press. I emailed MK yesterday but I haven't heard from them yet. Is there anything I can do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 02:06:21
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Tue, 06 August 2013, 01:34:50
    I got a DK9008G2 PRO PBT with clears about a month ago from mechanicalkeyboards.com, and from the first day I got it, I noticed that there is something wrong with my spacebar. It feels like something is blocking it from hitting the bottom(I know cherry stabilizers don't bottom out but bear with me). Its not as crisp as the spacebar on my ducky shine II and there is a really loud and annoying squeak every time i press the spacebar. I took it off and cleaned the inside and looked at the keyboard and saw that nothing was blocking it. Then I swapped the spacebars on my two boards and then there was no problem on the pro with the shine II spacebar, everything felt crisp and there was no squeak. On my shine II with the pro spacebar, it had the same problems: there was the annoying squeak and it did not feel good to press. I emailed MK yesterday but I haven't heard from them yet. Is there anything I can do?

    Don't take my word but sounds like an issue with the wire.  I don't have any boards with cherry stabilizers so I don't have any experience with them but that is what I would take a close look at.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keyit on Tue, 06 August 2013, 03:47:47
    when soldering SMD diodes, ive seen people remove one side of the pre-applied solder. is it to make the SMD sit flush against the pad? thanks!

    EDIT: nvm, found WFD's video that explained it.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 06 August 2013, 04:50:05
    Quote from: keyit on Tue, 06 August 2013, 03:47:47
    when soldering SMD diodes, ive seen people remove one side of the pre-applied solder. is it to make the SMD sit flush against the pad? thanks!

    EDIT: nvm, found WFD's video that explained it.  :thumb:

    Posting a link would help anyone who searched for this later on :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 05:23:31
    Quote from: boogerlad on Tue, 06 August 2013, 01:15:56
    Can anyone provide a link so that I may understand how the wiring works for open(nkro) matrix? I've seen http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42302.msg862665#msg862665 and http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20898.0 but I'm still not clear with how it works. Where do the diodes go? How to prevent short circuit? How to interface with Teensy?

    I don't know how to answer your questions EXACTLY but these links might help you:

    Matt30's Brownfox build log (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45139.msg942463#msg942463)

    Matt30's M0110 build log (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43550.0)

    Soarer's Teensy USB Adapter guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)

    jdcarpe's Lowpoly/Direct Wire/Prototype Board thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0)

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 02:06:21
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Tue, 06 August 2013, 01:34:50
    I got a DK9008G2 PRO PBT with clears about a month ago from mechanicalkeyboards.com, and from the first day I got it, I noticed that there is something wrong with my spacebar. It feels like something is blocking it from hitting the bottom(I know cherry stabilizers don't bottom out but bear with me). Its not as crisp as the spacebar on my ducky shine II and there is a really loud and annoying squeak every time i press the spacebar. I took it off and cleaned the inside and looked at the keyboard and saw that nothing was blocking it. Then I swapped the spacebars on my two boards and then there was no problem on the pro with the shine II spacebar, everything felt crisp and there was no squeak. On my shine II with the pro spacebar, it had the same problems: there was the annoying squeak and it did not feel good to press. I emailed MK yesterday but I haven't heard from them yet. Is there anything I can do?

    Sounds like you need to A) Lube you stabilizer and B) Reseat your stabilizer wire.
    Don't take my word but sounds like an issue with the wire.  I don't have any boards with cherry stabilizers so I don't have any experience with them but that is what I would take a close look at.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Tue, 06 August 2013, 05:58:51
    Where can i find a white keycool 87 with mx blues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 06:09:58
    Quote from: Narcix on Tue, 06 August 2013, 05:58:51
    Where can i find a white keycool 87 with mx blues?

    Did you try checking MechanicalKeyboards.com? I know they just started carrying them. You can try QTan's shop too. I think that's where jdcarpe got his.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 06 August 2013, 06:12:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 06:09:58
    Did you try checking MechanicalKeyboards.com? I know they just started carrying them. You can try QTan's shop too. I think that's where jdcarpe got his.

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=383

    Direct Link ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Tue, 06 August 2013, 06:22:47
    Mmmh...buying it form mk.com would be alot more expensive than buying the grey one from QTan's shop.....
    D:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 06:24:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 06 August 2013, 06:12:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 06:09:58
    Did you try checking MechanicalKeyboards.com? I know they just started carrying them. You can try QTan's shop too. I think that's where jdcarpe got his.

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=383

    Direct Link ;)

    Thanks, I can't get to MK.com at work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 07:16:40
    What was the longest spacebar that was somewhat mass produced enough to be possible to locate on ebay for a decent price with Cherry mount?  The reason I was wondering is because I found this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYSE-50-Terminal-Keyboard-with-RJ3-connector-/190820993558?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2c6dd14a16).  It appears to be in the neighborhood of 9.75x or 10x by counting the singles above it.

    Edit:  Also do we have a keyswitch ID thread?  I have 3 in other tabs I was wondering about
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:32:20
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 07:16:40
    1) What was the longest spacebar that was somewhat mass produced
    2) enough to be possible to locate on ebay for a decent price with Cherry mount? 
    3) Also do we have a keyswitch ID thread?  I have 3 in other tabs I was wondering about

    1) I've heard of 15x, not sure how common they are
    2) I don't know. Maybe 10x
    3) This thread was supposed to be it since Keyswitch IDs are easy but I'm starting to think there might need to be a new thread for that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:35:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:32:20
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 07:16:40
    1) What was the longest spacebar that was somewhat mass produced
    2) enough to be possible to locate on ebay for a decent price with Cherry mount? 
    3) Also do we have a keyswitch ID thread?  I have 3 in other tabs I was wondering about

    1) I've heard of 15x, not sure how common they are
    2) I don't know. Maybe 10x
    3) This thread was supposed to be it since Keyswitch IDs are easy but I'm starting to think there might need to be a new thread for that.

    3)b  If you don't mind CPT I could start one.  Although I think I might have identified one of the 3 I have pulled up in different tabs that I found on Ebay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oTurtlez on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:39:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 07:16:40
    What was the longest spacebar that was somewhat mass produced enough to be possible to locate on ebay for a decent price with Cherry mount?  The reason I was wondering is because I found this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYSE-50-Terminal-Keyboard-with-RJ3-connector-/190820993558?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2c6dd14a16).  It appears to be in the neighborhood of 9.75x or 10x by counting the singles above it.

    Edit:  Also do we have a keyswitch ID thread?  I have 3 in other tabs I was wondering about

    I had one of these puppies (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:LeadingEdgeDC2014.png) and that thing had a LONG spacebar. I think that wyse might be longer. Then again, mine was Alps too >.>
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:44:12
    Quote from: oTurtlez on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:39:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 07:16:40
    What was the longest spacebar that was somewhat mass produced enough to be possible to locate on ebay for a decent price with Cherry mount?  The reason I was wondering is because I found this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYSE-50-Terminal-Keyboard-with-RJ3-connector-/190820993558?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2c6dd14a16).  It appears to be in the neighborhood of 9.75x or 10x by counting the singles above it.

    Edit:  Also do we have a keyswitch ID thread?  I have 3 in other tabs I was wondering about

    I had one of these puppies (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:LeadingEdgeDC2014.png) and that thing had a LONG spacebar. I think that wyse might be longer. Then again, mine was Alps too >.>

    Nice looking board but yeah I believe that the one I posted is about 1 unit longer.  I got bids in on a couple boards to harvest caps in hopes of converting some to Cherry mounts.  Any idea how difficult this might be?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:45:22
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:35:04
    3) If you don't mind CPT I could start one.  Although I think I might have identified one of the 3 I have pulled up in different tabs that I found on Ebay.

    Nope I don't mind.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:44:12
    Nice looking board but yeah I believe that the one I posted is about 1 unit longer.  I got bids in on a couple boards to harvest caps in hopes of converting some to Cherry mounts.  Any idea how difficult this might be?

    Cut stems off, reposition, then use putty/glue to glue stems in the proper location. Ta-da, stem mod. It might be tedious and take some time but the concept is simple.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: boogerlad on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:56:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 05:23:31
    Quote from: boogerlad on Tue, 06 August 2013, 01:15:56
    Can anyone provide a link so that I may understand how the wiring works for open(nkro) matrix? I've seen http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42302.msg862665#msg862665 and http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20898.0 but I'm still not clear with how it works. Where do the diodes go? How to prevent short circuit? How to interface with Teensy?

    I don't know how to answer your questions EXACTLY but these links might help you:

    Matt30's Brownfox build log (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45139.msg942463#msg942463)

    Matt30's M0110 build log (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43550.0)

    Soarer's Teensy USB Adapter guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)

    jdcarpe's Lowpoly/Direct Wire/Prototype Board thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0)


    Thank you so much for your assistance. What is the maximum number of rows and columns for a teensy2.0? I know row+column = how many pins are needed, but which pins on the Teensy are valid? Everything except for 2*(vcc, gnd), PD6, and RST? How does the tmk firmware know which pin is mapped to a row/column?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:59:22
    Quote from: boogerlad on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:56:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 05:23:31
    Quote from: boogerlad on Tue, 06 August 2013, 01:15:56
    Can anyone provide a link so that I may understand how the wiring works for open(nkro) matrix? I've seen http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42302.msg862665#msg862665 and http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20898.0 but I'm still not clear with how it works. Where do the diodes go? How to prevent short circuit? How to interface with Teensy?

    I don't know how to answer your questions EXACTLY but these links might help you:

    Matt30's Brownfox build log (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45139.msg942463#msg942463)

    Matt30's M0110 build log (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43550.0)

    Soarer's Teensy USB Adapter guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)

    jdcarpe's Lowpoly/Direct Wire/Prototype Board thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0)


    Thank you so much for your assistance. What is the maximum number of rows and columns for a teensy2.0? I know row+column = how many pins are needed, but which pins on the Teensy are valid? Everything except for 2*(vcc, gnd), PD6, and RST? How does the tmk firmware know which pin is mapped to a row/column?

    Hate to tell ya but this is starting to get beyond the scope of Simple Q&A but here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26742.0) or here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0) would be good threads to further pursue this topic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 09:01:44
    Quote from: boogerlad on Tue, 06 August 2013, 08:56:01
    What is the maximum number of rows and columns for a teensy2.0? I know row+column = how many pins are needed, but which pins on the Teensy are valid? Everything except for 2*(vcc, gnd), PD6, and RST? How does the tmk firmware know which pin is mapped to a row/column?

    Isn't all the Teensy info in the Soarer thread? And you can look up the Hasu TMK firmware thread for more info as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 06 August 2013, 10:48:58
    the teensy 2.0 can use all the pins.
    the teensy 1 has 2 pins dedicated to led's
    for the pinouts of the teensy 2.0 go here
    http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/pinout.html

    edit1:
    26 pins total

    poker layout = 14 cols + 5 rows = 19 pins
    75% layout = 15 cols + 6 rows = 21 pins

    this is not counting the led's that you can use the remaining pins for with led's

    you also need to look at hasu's firmware for more information.
    It is the thread that helped me the most with my alps hardwired keyboard.
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0


    edit2: I do not know a way to say this in text on a webpage to show that I am not trying to be a **** with this statement but here is a shot at it.

    If you do you know anything about coding or are looking for someone to write the firmware for you, I would suggest that you not continue down this path.

    If you have a willingness to learn basic code structure in C programming language then I am sure we will help you get the information you need.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 06 August 2013, 11:50:23
    Nyan Cat Set: what profile is it: looks OEM, but dye sub... So unsure.  And is it on pure white PBT or off-white?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 06 August 2013, 11:53:53
    Why do windowed stepped-caps lock key make people so wet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 August 2013, 11:54:29
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 06 August 2013, 11:53:53
    Why do windowed stepped-caps lock key make people so wet?

    That is simply, not a simple question.

    That question deserves a thread in off-topic.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 11:54:58
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 06 August 2013, 11:53:53
    Why do windowed stepped-caps lock key make people so wet?

    Like most things on this forum: personal preference. They look nice with an LED underneath.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 13:32:48
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 06 August 2013, 11:50:23
    Nyan Cat Set: what profile is it: looks OEM, but dye sub... So unsure.  And is it on pure white PBT or off-white?

    I don't know anything about this set but I did find a picture from BunnyLake (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46658.msg986675#msg986675). The set compared to a 3D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 06 August 2013, 13:35:00
    Thank you.  It appears it's thin PBT, DSC profile, so semi-close to Cherry profile.  Also looks pure white from all the photos, at least before the dye.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 06 August 2013, 13:35:09
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 06 August 2013, 11:50:23
    Nyan Cat Set: what profile is it: looks OEM, but dye sub... So unsure.  And is it on pure white PBT or off-white?

    dcs profile good sir
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Tue, 06 August 2013, 13:46:55
    Dunno if this is the right place to ask, pardon me if it isn't.
    if i buy a keyboard and 2 keycaps from qtan's store, will they be shipped in the same package?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 13:47:37
    Quote from: Narcix on Tue, 06 August 2013, 13:46:55
    Dunno if this is the right place to ask, pardon me if it isn't.
    if i buy a keyboard and 2 keycaps from qtan's store, will they be shipped in the same package?

    I honestly don't know but if its literally 2 caps I don't see why not. You can try PMing him or posting in his vendor forum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 17:23:22
    I was looking at the '356mini' photo album on deskthority. I noticed he was using screws on PCB mount cherry stabilisers, as you can see in this photo. Is it normal to do this? Can it be done with them stock, or do I need to modifiy them?
    rest of album here : http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/356mini-t5185.html
    (http://i.imgur.com/HYL62Rs.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 06 August 2013, 18:47:53
    This is regarding Cherry MX keychains, do these allow you to remove the switch, or are the switches glued in?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 06 August 2013, 18:54:21
    Quote from: mohitgarg on Tue, 06 August 2013, 18:47:53
    This is regarding Cherry MX keychains, do these allow you to remove the switch, or are the switches glued in?
    Depends on the keychain.  Most allow you to switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:10:00
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 17:23:22
    I was looking at the '356mini' photo album on deskthority. I noticed he was using screws on PCB mount cherry stabilisers, as you can see in this photo. Is it normal to do this? Can it be done with them stock, or do I need to modifiy them?
    rest of album here : http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/356mini-t5185.html
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/HYL62Rs.png)


    Those screw-in Cherry PCB mount stabilizers are found mostly on old WYSE boards for the spacebar. The PCB would have to be designed for them, since the screw holes are much smaller than the snap-in holes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:11:21
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 06 August 2013, 18:54:21
    Quote from: mohitgarg on Tue, 06 August 2013, 18:47:53
    This is regarding Cherry MX keychains, do these allow you to remove the switch, or are the switches glued in?
    Depends on the keychain.  Most allow you to switch.

    So how does the switch stay in place?, wouldn't it pop off easily?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:11:51
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:10:00
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 17:23:22
    I was looking at the '356mini' photo album on deskthority. I noticed he was using screws on PCB mount cherry stabilisers, as you can see in this photo. Is it normal to do this? Can it be done with them stock, or do I need to modifiy them?
    rest of album here : http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/356mini-t5185.html
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/HYL62Rs.png)


    Those screw-in Cherry PCB mount stabilizers are found mostly on old WYSE boards for the spacebar. The PCB would have to be designed for them, since the screw holes are much smaller than the snap-in holes.
    Oh I see.. Thanks for the info :)
    Out of curiosity do you know if the KMAC 1.4 PCB supports them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:48:50
    Quote from: mohitgarg on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:11:21
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 06 August 2013, 18:54:21
    Quote from: mohitgarg on Tue, 06 August 2013, 18:47:53
    This is regarding Cherry MX keychains, do these allow you to remove the switch, or are the switches glued in?
    Depends on the keychain.  Most allow you to switch.

    So how does the switch stay in place?, wouldn't it pop off easily?

    Press fit like a plate. My alixinzhai keychain feels like a very tight press fit and my feng keychain feels a little loose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:03:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:48:50
    Quote from: mohitgarg on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:11:21
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 06 August 2013, 18:54:21
    Quote from: mohitgarg on Tue, 06 August 2013, 18:47:53
    This is regarding Cherry MX keychains, do these allow you to remove the switch, or are the switches glued in?
    Depends on the keychain.  Most allow you to switch.

    So how does the switch stay in place?, wouldn't it pop off easily?

    Press fit like a plate. My alixinzhai keychain feels like a very tight press fit and my feng keychain feels a little loose.

    Thanks, but plate mounted switches are reinforced by the PCB they are soldered to, and thus it is impossible for them to fall
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:08:28
    Quote from: mohitgarg on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:03:28
    Thanks, but plate mounted switches are reinforced by the PCB they are soldered to, and thus it is impossible for them to fall
    Plate mount is still secure. You cannot simply pull a plate mounted switch off, it's held in place by two tabs. I have a Cherry keycap puller that has a switch on it - it's mounted just like plate mount switches. I imagine most other keychains are too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:08:58
    Quote from: mohitgarg on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:03:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:48:50
    Press fit like a plate. My alixinzhai keychain feels like a very tight press fit and my feng keychain feels a little loose.

    Thanks, but plate mounted switches are reinforced by the PCB they are soldered to, and thus it is impossible for them to fall

    I'm not understanding your point. They're not a complete assembly. I'm pretty sure I can force it apart since it's just a press fit though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:29:57
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:11:51
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:10:00
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 17:23:22
    I was looking at the '356mini' photo album on deskthority. I noticed he was using screws on PCB mount cherry stabilisers, as you can see in this photo. Is it normal to do this? Can it be done with them stock, or do I need to modifiy them?
    rest of album here : http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/356mini-t5185.html
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/HYL62Rs.png)


    Those screw-in Cherry PCB mount stabilizers are found mostly on old WYSE boards for the spacebar. The PCB would have to be designed for them, since the screw holes are much smaller than the snap-in holes.
    Oh I see.. Thanks for the info :)
    Out of curiosity do you know if the KMAC 1.4 PCB supports them?

    No, unfortunately I'm not familiar with the KMAC 1.4 PCB at all. Sorry. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:32:54
    Any idea what boards I could look for with a 10x or larger space bar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:33:47
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:29:57
    No, unfortunately I'm not familiar with the KMAC 1.4 PCB at all. Sorry. :(
    No problem :D

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:32:54
    Any idea what boards I could look for with a 10x or larger space bar.
    A lot of wyse boards have them I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:37:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:32:54
    Any idea what boards I could look for with a 10x or larger space bar.

    GH60 :p


    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:11:51
    Out of curiosity do you know if the KMAC 1.4 PCB supports them?

    If those stabs with screws has the same mounting hole location as modern PCB-mounted stabs, then it will fit kmac 1.4 PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:40:17
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 06 August 2013, 20:37:32
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 06 August 2013, 19:11:51
    Out of curiosity do you know if the KMAC 1.4 PCB supports them?

    If those stabs with screws has the same mounting hole location as modern PCB-mounted stabs, then it will fit kmac 1.4 PCB.
    Well the stabs I got from you definitely work on the KMAC 1.4 (the same KMAC pcb that's used in the KMAC 2)
    I'm guessing the screws make it much more secure.. I guess I'll look into possibly getting them.
    Thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:16:15
    On a Poker X, is it possible to switch the Function button with the right windows key using a program or something?
    I got used to the Poker 2's Function button being two to the right of the space bar. Now I'm all goofed up!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:16:48
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:16:15
    On a Poker X, is it possible to switch the Function button with the right windows key using a program or something?

    Try AutoHotKey?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:23:20
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:16:15
    On a Poker X, is it possible to switch the Function button with the right windows key using a program or something?

    AHK/any similar software will not work as the FN button presses don't get send to the OS. So no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:24:47
    How does the Fn button work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:25:56
    Who sells MX Mini cases or housings? Is it strictly with the group buys or what?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:29:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:24:47
    How does the Fn button work?

    To my knowledge it functions completely inside the keyboard firmware.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:56:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:29:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:24:47
    How does the Fn button work?

    To my knowledge it functions completely inside the keyboard firmware.

    This. Here's a list of all keycodes (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd375731(v=vs.85).aspx) Windows uses and the FN key is not part of it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 06 August 2013, 22:16:42
    FN is in the firmware and does not forward a scancode to the pc for the FN button.
    If you wish to remap a existing FN + button you can use autoit.
    example... FN + [ = Home on a poker.
    you can use autoit to remap this to another scancode.

    but if you wanted to remap something like FN + R this would not work because that doesn't do anything normally on a poker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 06 August 2013, 22:30:20
    Quote from: domoaligato on Tue, 06 August 2013, 22:16:42
    FN is in the firmware and does not forward a scancode to the pc for the FN button.
    If you wish to remap a existing FN + button you can use autoit.
    example... FN + [ = Home on a poker.
    you can use autoit to remap this to another scancode.

    but if you wanted to remap something like FN + R this would not work because that doesn't do anything normally on a poker.

    Meh, I was trying to switch FN with R_Win on my Poker X.
    Thank you for the info though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 06 August 2013, 22:49:29
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Tue, 06 August 2013, 21:25:56
    Who sells MX Mini cases or housings? Is it strictly with the group buys or what?

    Gon sells some in his vendor sub-forum on here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 05:31:42
    Anyone know the manufacturing method of the MKC aluminum spacebars sold by Feng on here and ebay?? IE cast or machined.  I have tried sending him PM's a couple other times with no response hence my question is being posted here.

    Nevermind I found the answer myself.  They are cast.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:33:07
    Can you change the keycool 87 case? sorry for the noob questions
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:35:08
    Quote from: Narcix on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:33:07
    Can you change the keycool 87 case?

    Change like swap out? Probably you can swap it out with another Keycool case. Most cases have slight differences in the standoffs. For example, the Phantom PCB is designed to fit into a Filco case but with a slight modification (I'm not exactly sure what is involved but Moose has done it and LeslieAnn will be providing adapters), it will fit in a QFR case. I don't know if a Keycool PCB fits in a QFR case. Maybe jdcarpe knows.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:38:08
    Any ideas on what brands of keyboards to look for in an attempt to source a 15x spacebar?  No there is not a . missing.  I have evidence from the GH60 thread that they exist.  Now I just need to source one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:41:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:38:08
    Any ideas on what brands of keyboards to look for in an attempt to source a 15x spacebar?  No there is not a . missing.  I have evidence from the GH60 thread that they exist.  Now I just need to source one.

    I *believe* that Samwisekoi and others who created that hilarious 10x or 15x spacebar layout for the GH60 (in the GH60 thread) either got theirs from a WYSE or some Cherry board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:43:38
    Don't be calling it hilarious, I'm gonna do the 15x spacebar layout.  Arrow keys will be in the same spot and the keys above it will be Vol+, Win, Vol- then Ctrl, Delete, Alt on the bottom row in 1.5,1,1.5 layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:48:28
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:43:38
    1) Don't be calling it hilarious

    2)Arrow keys will be in the same spot and the keys above it will be Vol+, Win, Vol- then Ctrl, Delete, Alt on the bottom row in 1.5,1,1.5 layout.

    1) 10x and 15x spacebars are the funniest layout I've seen in a long time

    2) I'm not following you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:52:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:48:28
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:43:38
    1) Don't be calling it hilarious

    2)Arrow keys will be in the same spot and the keys above it will be Vol+, Win, Vol- then Ctrl, Delete, Alt on the bottom row in 1.5,1,1.5 layout.

    2) I'm not following you.

    this (http://ne0.cc/laygen/#Esc%3A%3A1%20%201%3A%3A1%20%202%3A%3A1%20%203%3A%3A1%20%204%3A%3A1%20%205%3A%3A1%20%206%3A%3A1%20%207%3A%3A1%20%208%3A%3A1%20%209%3A%3A1%20%200%3A%3A1%20%20-_%3A%3A1%20%20+%3D%3A%3A1%20%20Backspace%3A%3A2%20%20%3A%3A.25%20%20Vol+%3A%3A1.5%20%20Win%3A%3A1%20%20Vol-%3A%3A1.5%24%24%0ATab%3A%3A1.5%20%20Q%3A%3A1%20%20W%3A%3A1%20%20E%3A%3A1%20%20R%3A%3A1%20%20T%3A%3A1%20%20Y%3A%3A1%20%20U%3A%3A1%20%20I%3A%3A1%20%20O%3A%3A1%20%20P%3A%3A1%20%20%5B%7B%3A%3A1%20%20%5D%7D%3A%3A1%20%20%5C%7C%3A%3A1.5%20%20%3A%3A.25%20%20Ctrl%3A%3A1.5%20%20Del%3A%3A1%20%20Alt%3A%3A1.5%24%24%0ACaps%20Lock%3A%3A1.75%20%20A%3A%3A1%20%20S%3A%3A1%20%20D%3A%3A1%20%20F%3A%3A1%20%20G%3A%3A1%20%20H%3A%3A1%20%20J%3A%3A1%20%20K%3A%3A1%20%20L%3A%3A1%20%20%3B%3A%20%3A%3A1%20%20%27%22%3A%3A1%20%20Enter%3A%3A2.25%20%20%3A%3A.25%24%24%0AShift%3A%3A2.25%20%20Z%3A%3A1%20%20X%3A%3A1%20%20C%3A%3A1%20%20V%3A%3A1%20%20B%3A%3A1%20%20N%3A%3A1%20%20M%3A%3A1%20%20%3C%2C%3A%3A1%20%20%3E.%3A%3A1%20%20/%3F%3A%3A1%20%20Shift%3A%3A2.75%20%20%3A%3A1.75%20%20%5E%3A%3A1%24%24%0ASpace%3A%3A15%20%20%3A%3A.75%20%20%3C%3A%3A1%20%20V%3A%3A1%20%20%3E%3A%3A1%24%24)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:56:26
    Let's continue this here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.msg987990#msg987990).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:02:16
    Sounds good sorry to take this beyond the scope of simple Q&A
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vintage on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:54:52
    Does anyone know if there are any groupbuys going on or starting soon for a moddable TKL plates? Would really love to get my hands on one because I want to trick my board out soon. I don't think there are but wanted to make sure im not missin out :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:57:49
    Quote from: Vintage on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:54:52
    Does anyone know if there are any groupbuys going on or starting soon for a moddable TKL plates? Would really love to get my hands on one because I want to trick my board out soon. I don't think there are but wanted to make sure im not missin out :)

    Phantom Plate is TKL with the easy open switch hole but for the life of me i don't remember if it is compatible with other PCB's but I know it is compatible with a few stock cases
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:59:21
    Quote from: Vintage on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:54:52
    Does anyone know if there are any groupbuys going on or starting soon for a moddable TKL plates?

    Yes there are customized TKL plates, check out WFD's GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.0). This is the Phantom Plate that Melvang is referring to. Not sure if it fits any other PCB besides the Phantom (I'm guessing the Filco PCB *might* work since the Phantom fits in a Filco case). I know the date is kind of old but there was a second small round and I believe the info was all in that thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: badcop on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:06:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:59:21
    Quote from: Vintage on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:54:52
    Does anyone know if there are any groupbuys going on or starting soon for a moddable TKL plates?

    Yes there are customized TKL plates, check out WFD's GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.0). This is the Phantom Plate that Melvang is referring to. Not sure if it fits any other PCB besides the Phantom (I'm guessing the Filco PCB *might* work since the Phantom fits in a Filco case). I know the date is kind of old but there was a second small round and I believe the info was all in that thread.

    wont work.  no cutout for the controller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:07:30
    You beat me to the punch badcop was just going to mention the controller interference but that isn't anything a dremel can't fix hehe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: badcop on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:08:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:07:30
    You beat me to the punch badcop was just going to mention the controller interference but that isn't anything a dremel can't fix hehe.

    lol yeah you could make anything fit with a dremel  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:11:46
    Quote from: badcop on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:08:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:07:30
    You beat me to the punch badcop was just going to mention the controller interference but that isn't anything a dremel can't fix hehe.

    lol yeah you could make anything fit with a dremel  ;D

    Or a bigger hammer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vintage on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:24:25
    lol. Would you need to make room for the QFR controller? And if so does anyone know where the hole would have to be on the plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 07 August 2013, 18:23:48
    Quote from: badcop on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:06:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:59:21
    Quote from: Vintage on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:54:52
    Does anyone know if there are any groupbuys going on or starting soon for a moddable TKL plates?

    Yes there are customized TKL plates, check out WFD's GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.0). This is the Phantom Plate that Melvang is referring to. Not sure if it fits any other PCB besides the Phantom (I'm guessing the Filco PCB *might* work since the Phantom fits in a Filco case). I know the date is kind of old but there was a second small round and I believe the info was all in that thread.

    wont work.  no cutout for the controller.

    the title of WFD's thread is
    [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)


    it looks like it has the correct cutout for the controller to me.
    what am I missing here?
    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/platerev3.png)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 19:02:42
    Hm, at a quick glance, looks like it will fit. See this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39146.msg940365#msg940365).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: badcop on Thu, 08 August 2013, 09:39:07
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 07 August 2013, 18:23:48
    Quote from: badcop on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:06:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:59:21
    Quote from: Vintage on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:54:52
    Does anyone know if there are any groupbuys going on or starting soon for a moddable TKL plates?

    Yes there are customized TKL plates, check out WFD's GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.0). This is the Phantom Plate that Melvang is referring to. Not sure if it fits any other PCB besides the Phantom (I'm guessing the Filco PCB *might* work since the Phantom fits in a Filco case). I know the date is kind of old but there was a second small round and I believe the info was all in that thread.

    wont work.  no cutout for the controller.

    the title of WFD's thread is
    [GB] Universal TKL plate (Filco/phantom/CM quickfire compatible)


    it looks like it has the correct cutout for the controller to me.
    what am I missing here?
    Show Image
    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/platerev3.png)


    that plate will work.  the phantom plate will not.

    (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg)
    photo credit: russ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:50:21
    The GH60 PCB supports PCB mounted switches, but I will use a plate. Would using PCB mounted switches (isntead of plate mounted switches) + the plate make it even more rigid (because of the 2 extra pins on each switch) or would it not make a difference?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:53:06
    Shouldn't make too much of a difference. The PCB pins are not for rigidity, but for helping align the switches correctly, which the plate does as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:53:54
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:50:21
    The GH60 PCB supports PCB mounted switches, but I will use a plate. Would using PCB mounted switches (isntead of plate mounted switches) + the plate make it even more rigid (because of the 2 extra pins on each switch) or would it not make a difference?

    My KMAC has PCB mounted switches and a plate. It *does* feel really solid but I literally never thought about this until now. More solid then my 700R...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oTurtlez on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:55:14
    WFD said in one of his videos to use PCB mounted with a plate whenever you can for increased rigidity.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:57:46
    Quote from: oTurtlez on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:55:14
    WFD said in one of his videos to use PCB mounted with a plate whenever you can for increased rigidity.

    IF the PCB has holes for the PCB mount pins...not all do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oTurtlez on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:58:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:57:46
    Quote from: oTurtlez on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:55:14
    WFD said in one of his videos to use PCB mounted with a plate whenever you can for increased rigidity.

    IF the PCB has holes for the PCB mount pins...not all do.

    Hence the "whenever you can" sir. More physical locking connections can't hurt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 08 August 2013, 11:02:04
    Thanks for the advice guys, I will use PCB mounted switches then, can't hurt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 11:03:41
    Quote from: oTurtlez on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:58:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:57:46
    Quote from: oTurtlez on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:55:14
    WFD said in one of his videos to use PCB mounted with a plate whenever you can for increased rigidity.

    IF the PCB has holes for the PCB mount pins...not all do.

    Hence the "whenever you can" sir. More physical locking connections can't hurt.

    I don't always completely read before I post, if I did I might not post as much. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oTurtlez on Thu, 08 August 2013, 11:04:56
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 11:03:41
    Quote from: oTurtlez on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:58:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:57:46
    Quote from: oTurtlez on Thu, 08 August 2013, 10:55:14
    WFD said in one of his videos to use PCB mounted with a plate whenever you can for increased rigidity.

    IF the PCB has holes for the PCB mount pins...not all do.

    Hence the "whenever you can" sir. More physical locking connections can't hurt.

    I don't always completely read before I post, if I did I might not post as much. ;)

    Dont worry ray, we wouldn't want you any other way :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 08 August 2013, 20:52:21
    does anyone here know if the gh60 plates are going to be the magical type where you can remove the switch top without desoldering?

    i've had a 'i think so but i'm not 100% sure' confirmation from the captain, but can anyone else give me the thumbs up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 08 August 2013, 20:55:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 08 August 2013, 20:52:21
    does anyone here know if the gh60 plates are going to be the magical type where you can remove the switch top without desoldering?

    i've had a 'i think so but i'm not 100% sure' confirmation from the captain, but can anyone else give me the thumbs up?

    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:05:33
    Can i use pictures made by users of this forum for a small guide im making on an italian forum?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:06:00
    Quote from: domoaligato on Thu, 08 August 2013, 20:55:47
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 08 August 2013, 20:52:21
    does anyone here know if the gh60 plates are going to be the magical type where you can remove the switch top without desoldering?

    i've had a 'i think so but i'm not 100% sure' confirmation from the captain, but can anyone else give me the thumbs up?

    Yes

    awesome :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:09:51
    Quote from: Narcix on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:05:33
    Can i use pictures made by users of this forum for a small guide im making on an italian forum?

    That depends on the user.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:11:19
    Quote from: Narcix on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:05:33
    Can i use pictures made by users of this forum for a small guide im making on an italian forum?

    Best thing to do is PM the user and ask.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:26:22
    Before I post my incredible findings from driving down to pick up what I won on Ebay i have one question?  Is there an easy way to tell the difference between modern and vintage blacks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:27:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:26:22
    Before I post my incredible findings from driving down to pick up what I won on Ebay i have one question?  Is there an easy way to tell the difference between modern and vintage blacks?

    Hahaha. Yes, there is. The "CHERRY" logo on the top housing of the switches is visibly larger on "vintage" switches than on modern Cherry switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:28:28
    Excellent thank you for the quick response JD

    Edit I just looked at my find and the word Cherry doesn't seem to be any larger but there is a lot more detail in the emblem next to the word.  And they feel butter smooth considering the condition of the outside of the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:09:37
    Quote from: Narcix on Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:05:33
    Can i use pictures made by users of this forum for a small guide im making on an italian forum?

    You should ask the user. And then you should also credit the picture you use to the person who took the picture.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:10:29
    Would a 1983 date on a pcb from a terminal board be old enough for a black switch to be considered "vintage"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:14:27
    Definately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:14:35
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:10:29
    Would a 1983 date on a pcb from a terminal board be old enough for a black switch to be considered "vintage"

    I think you can check the switches to see if its vintage.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38921.0#quickreply
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:20:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:10:29
    Would a 1983 date on a pcb from a terminal board be old enough for a black switch to be considered "vintage"

    Anything older than 2013 is. lrn2vintage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:34:37
    Well according to the pic the vintage housing the word cherry was the same size as the logo but the newer ones the word was smaller than the logo.  But apparently there was also a transition period.  Will try and get some macro shots of a stem and the housing and try and figure out this one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:39:12
    Isn't "Vintage" just a term the community came up with? There's a set date that we all said "this is vintage?"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:42:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:39:12
    Isn't "Vintage" just a term the community came up with? There's a set date that we all said "this is vintage?"

    They changed the Logo around 1991 and around that time (a bit later) they changed the plastic or the mold for the sliders as well, which results in a more scratchy feel.

    If it is from 1983 you can be 100% sure that these switches are vintage and as you said they feel butter smooth.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:45:55
    Sure they're not just butter smooth from years of wear and usage? All the usage rubbing away the stems' friction points.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:55:20
    I thought the same first, but according to Ivan NIBs feel that smooth as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:56:52
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:55:20
    I thought the same first, but according to Ivan NIBs feel that smooth as well.

    Link to that please?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:59:11
    #VINTAGEPLACEBO
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:00:25
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 05 August 2013, 08:33:01
    I have had few NIB MX boards with earlier production years black and blue switch, and they still feel different in a better way. Also don't forget the discontinued switch like linear white which are super amazing.

    Those are probably 2 of the most overpriced G80 on the internet.

    He has said that multiple times but this the first post that I could find.

    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:59:11
    #VINTAGEPLACEBO

    Cmon moose, remember what happened to your last troll attempt?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:03:01
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:00:25
    Cmon moose, remember what happened to your last troll attempt?

    I'm not quite sure I follow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:05:42
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:42:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 August 2013, 12:39:12
    Isn't "Vintage" just a term the community came up with? There's a set date that we all said "this is vintage?"

    They changed the Logo around 1991 and around that time (a bit later) they changed the plastic or the mold for the sliders as well, which results in a more scratchy feel.

    If it is from 1983 you can be 100% sure that these switches are vintage and as you said they feel butter smooth.

    Thanks for the knowledge bomb there BlueBar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:09:48
    Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe the people who say "vintage" switches are "thebestthebestthebest" are messing with you? Sounds similar to something someone was doing with MY switches. Bunch of jokesters.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:11:00
    I have some. They are smoother. I can send you a few if you pay postage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:11:20
    I didn't because this board was the first time I have felt a black switch and I had no idea what the vintage of the switches was.  But in my opinion they are smoother than the reds in my orbweaver.

    Edit:  Can anyone confirm either way on if Model M, F, or SSK spacebars are PBT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 August 2013, 14:27:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:11:20
    Can anyone confirm either way on if Model M, F, or SSK spacebars are PBT?

    I'm 90% sure all IBM boards have PBT caps. That should include the spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 14:38:37
    Thanks CPT.  Any idea how well PBT takes to dye, either RIT or vinyl?  Also on that topic how well do home dyed caps stand up to the test of time and use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 August 2013, 14:41:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 14:38:37
    1) Any idea how well PBT takes to dye, either RIT or vinyl? 
    2) Also on that topic how well do home dyed caps stand up to the test of time and use?

    1) meeba does RIT dye-ing on his meebcaps. They look amazing.
    2) meebcaps seem like they have a good quality. I saw Smallfry's Aircraft Carrier M with red dyed caps which looked good too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:01:20
    Does anyone know if GMK produces the colored doubleshots that EK is selling on their sites or are they closer to SP double shots?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:02:09
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:01:20
    Does anyone know if GMK produces the colored doubleshots that EK is selling on their sites or are they closer to SP double shots?
    GMK..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Thimplum on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:06:45
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:02:09
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:01:20
    Does anyone know if GMK produces the colored doubleshots that EK is selling on their sites or are they closer to SP double shots?
    GMK..

    ??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:07:23
    Thanks. On my phone in spotty reception so I couldn't look it up.   
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:07:40
    Quote from: Thimplum on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:06:45
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:02:09
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:01:20
    Does anyone know if GMK produces the colored doubleshots that EK is selling on their sites or are they closer to SP double shots?
    GMK..

    ??
    ??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:07:56
    Quote from: Thimplum on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:06:45
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:02:09
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:01:20
    Does anyone know if GMK produces the colored doubleshots that EK is selling on their sites or are they closer to SP double shots?
    GMK..

    ??

    He was answering the question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:08:19
    When posting a question in this thread I often com up with another question before the question gets answered.  In this case is it better to make a new post or modify the existing post?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:09:28
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:08:19
    When posting a question in this thread I often com up with another question before the question gets answered.  In this case is it better to make a new post or modify the existing post?
    CPT always encourages modifying.. but I always think people who've already seen my question will miss the one I added, so I usually make another post.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:10:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:08:19
    When posting a question in this thread I often com up with another question before the question gets answered.  In this case is it better to make a new post or modify the existing post?

    I normally edit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:23:09
    What type of ALPS does this apple design KB use? It's sort-of an offwhite.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:42:34
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:23:09
    What type of ALPS does this apple design KB use? It's sort-of an offwhite.

    Dorkvader, post pictures please. I believe it's Cream Alps

    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:08:19
    When posting a question in this thread I often com up with another question before the question gets answered.  In this case is it better to make a new post or modify the existing post?

    I encourage edits like people have said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: remedyhalopc on Fri, 09 August 2013, 21:13:32
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:07:40
    Quote from: Thimplum on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:06:45
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:02:09
    Quote from: remedyhalopc on Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:01:20
    Does anyone know if GMK produces the colored doubleshots that EK is selling on their sites or are they closer to SP double shots?
    GMK..

    ??
    ??

    I think he's confused by the extra ".."
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 10 August 2013, 16:25:21
    Anyone here ever ate at a place called Zombie Burger?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 10 August 2013, 16:32:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 10 August 2013, 16:25:21
    Anyone here ever ate at a place called Zombie Burger?

    No but please keep this keyboard related :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 10 August 2013, 18:42:24
    question for ducky fans:

    my little brother has a ducky 9087g2, and i want to add some green LEDs from my pure. my pure is being disassembled for parts tomorrow, so i thought he could add some LEDs to his ducky, but does that pcb support LEDs beyond the locks and the wasd switches?

    thanks doods
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:21:25
    1) Any suggestions for cleaning the plate on a terminal board that spent is full of dust dirt and God knows what else?
    2) What is the prefered method for cleaning really dirty non yellowed caps?
    3) Is there any way to tell ABS from PBT without destroying the cap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:23:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:21:25
    1) Any suggestions for cleaning the plate on a terminal board that spent is full of dust dirt and God knows what else?
    2) What is the prefered method for cleaning really dirty non yellowed caps?
    3) Is there any way to tell ABS from PBT without destroying the cap?

    1) Rubbing or isopropyl alcohol, as pure as you can get it.
    2) Get some denture cleaning tabs. Put the caps in warm water, put the tabs in, and then wait 20 minutes. Take them out and then dry them.
    3) Feel of the cap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:26:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:23:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:21:25
    1) Any suggestions for cleaning the plate on a terminal board that spent is full of dust dirt and God knows what else?
    2) What is the prefered method for cleaning really dirty non yellowed caps?
    3) Is there any way to tell ABS from PBT without destroying the cap?

    1) Rubbing or isopropyl alcohol, as pure as you can get it.
    2) Get some denture cleaning tabs. Put the caps in warm water, put the tabs in, and then wait 20 minutes. Take them out and then dry them.
    3) Feel of the cap?

    Thanks for the reply CPT I think I am going to try just some dish soap in warm water with a tooth brush on the caps they are pretty grimey.  I think the boards spent their life in a factory of some sort.  Judging by the build up the one looked like the factory made something with wood.  I mean there was enough between the PCB and the bottom half of the case to dump out in a pile on the floor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:26:59
    1) Any suggestions for cleaning the plate on a terminal board that spent is full of dust dirt and God knows what else?

    Datavac, compressed air, brush it out, scrub it with a toothbrush, rubbing alcohol, etc.  There are a ton of ways to do it.  Find what works best for you without losing parts.


    2) What is the prefered method for cleaning really dirty non yellowed caps?

    Everyone has their preferred method.  Some toss them in a bag into the dishwasher.  Some use denture tabs.  Some use soap and a brush.  All work well.


    3) Is there any way to tell ABS from PBT without destroying the cap?

    Get salt saturated water and toss them in.  They float they're ABS, they sink they're PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ninjadoc on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:33:57
    Quote from: okooko on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:38:58
    Q.
    What do you usually do when you buy another KB knowing your significant other half will be pissed beyond godlike?

    (I just get prepared to spend double, so $xxx.xx for the KB, and $xxx.xx for the hu$h) lol

    You hide them. You have them shipped to work. You mix them up with other stuff and say " look what I found honey, I forgot I had this" . I, of course, would never do anything like that. I've only heard of others pulling such antics!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:15:32
    Quote from: ninjadoc on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:33:57
    Quote from: okooko on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:38:58
    Q.
    What do you usually do when you buy another KB knowing your significant other half will be pissed beyond godlike?

    (I just get prepared to spend double, so $xxx.xx for the KB, and $xxx.xx for the hu$h) lol

    You hide them. You have them shipped to work. You mix them up with other stuff and say " look what I found honey, I forgot I had this" . I, of course, would never do anything like that. I've only heard of others pulling such antics!

    That would never work for me.  She knows exactly what I have for completed mech boards.

    Anyone have an idea on what boards I should be scrounging ebay for when looking for double shot PBT caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:50:59
    Is there any way to make my QFR with browns feel any more like a Poker with ergo-clears? Like o-rings or something.. the QFR just feels cheap compared to the ergo clears. There's a cheap plastic bottom out sound I'd like to avoid, but retain the tactile feel.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:51:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:15:32
    Quote from: ninjadoc on Sat, 10 August 2013, 23:33:57
    Quote from: okooko on Thu, 21 February 2013, 17:38:58
    Q.
    What do you usually do when you buy another KB knowing your significant other half will be pissed beyond godlike?

    (I just get prepared to spend double, so $xxx.xx for the KB, and $xxx.xx for the hu$h) lol

    You hide them. You have them shipped to work. You mix them up with other stuff and say " look what I found honey, I forgot I had this" . I, of course, would never do anything like that. I've only heard of others pulling such antics!

    That would never work for me.  She knows exactly what I have for completed mech boards.

    Anyone have an idea on what boards I should be scrounging ebay for when looking for double shot PBT caps?

    Doubleshot PBT caps aren't really a thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:54:06
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:51:31
    Doubleshot PBT caps aren't really a thing.

    Well, they are, just no one really does them since they're so hard to get right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 01:13:03
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:54:06
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:51:31
    Doubleshot PBT caps aren't really a thing.

    Well, they are, just no one really does them since they're so hard to get right.
    Thats why I didn't say they aren't a thing.  I said they aren't really a thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 11 August 2013, 05:07:21
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:50:59
    Is there any way to make my QFR with browns feel any more like a Poker with ergo-clears? Like o-rings or something.. the QFR just feels cheap compared to the ergo clears. There's a cheap plastic bottom out sound I'd like to avoid, but retain the tactile feel.

    If you want to avoid that bottom-out sound, O-rings could help. The better long-term solution would be modding the switches to ergo clears of course.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 11 August 2013, 10:06:17
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 01:13:03
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:54:06
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:51:31
    Doubleshot PBT caps aren't really a thing.

    Well, they are, just no one really does them since they're so hard to get right.
    Thats why I didn't say they aren't a thing.  I said they aren't really a thing.

    I thought there was a few older boards that had double shot PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:34:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 August 2013, 10:06:17
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 01:13:03
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:54:06
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:51:31
    Doubleshot PBT caps aren't really a thing.

    Well, they are, just no one really does them since they're so hard to get right.
    Thats why I didn't say they aren't a thing.  I said they aren't really a thing.

    I thought there was a few older boards that had double shot PBT.

    You can get double shot PBT but its very expensive. i3oilermaker sells a few double shot PBT caps at Techkeys.us. His Wario cap was a double shot cap with a W dye-subbed. But it was far more expensive then most of the novelty caps he sells. I've never heard of a full set of double shot PBT caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:45:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:34:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 August 2013, 10:06:17
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 01:13:03
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:54:06
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 11 August 2013, 00:51:31
    Doubleshot PBT caps aren't really a thing.

    Well, they are, just no one really does them since they're so hard to get right.
    Thats why I didn't say they aren't a thing.  I said they aren't really a thing.

    I thought there was a few older boards that had double shot PBT.

    You can get double shot PBT but its very expensive. i3oilermaker sells a few double shot PBT caps at Techkeys.us. His Wario cap was a double shot cap with a W dye-subbed. But it was far more expensive then most of the novelty caps he sells. I've never heard of a full set of double shot PBT caps.

    Gotcha thanks CPT. 

    Edit:  Has anyone attempted an ABS first shot with a PBT second shot?  Assuming the first shot is the legend with the second shot as the rest of the cap.

    Just wondering if it has been tried or if it would even work with the two different kinds of plastic.  Just thinking out loud really.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 August 2013, 20:23:54
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:45:03
    Has anyone attempted an ABS first shot with a PBT second shot?  Assuming the first shot is the legend with the second shot as the rest of the cap.

    Just wondering if it has been tried or if it would even work with the two different kinds of plastic.  Just thinking out loud really.

    The two plastics have different shrink rates so I'm not sure what would happen. I've never seen an ABS/PBT cap. I know its possible with polycarbonate and ABS though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alosec on Sun, 11 August 2013, 20:30:03
    I want to replace the stock caps on my Filco MJ2 with PBT caps, will the caps at the top of Signature Plastic's marketplace do the job? It says they fit on MX caps, I just want to make sure they fit profile/stabilizer-wise.

    http://keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 August 2013, 20:30:38
    Quote from: alosec on Sun, 11 August 2013, 20:30:03
    I want to replace the stock caps on my Filco MJ2 with PBT caps, will the caps at the top of Signature Plastic's marketplace do the job? It says they fit on MX caps, I just want to make sure they fit profile/stabilizer-wise.

    http://keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php

    Yes. The caps shown there are ANSI 1.25x and the Filco is ANSI 1.25x unless you have ISO or something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alosec on Sun, 11 August 2013, 20:56:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 August 2013, 20:30:38
    Quote from: alosec on Sun, 11 August 2013, 20:30:03
    I want to replace the stock caps on my Filco MJ2 with PBT caps, will the caps at the top of Signature Plastic's marketplace do the job? It says they fit on MX caps, I just want to make sure they fit profile/stabilizer-wise.

    http://keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php

    Yes. The caps shown there are ANSI 1.25x and the Filco is ANSI 1.25x unless you have ISO or something.

    Thanks :3

    edit: http://i.imgur.com/gCvuYHT.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xSpartanCx on Sun, 11 August 2013, 22:37:24
    Can I install LED backlighting on a phantom?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 02:10:27
    no pcb doesn't support it 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 18:43:36
    Clears would be a medium weight tactile switch and greens or whites a medium weight tactile switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:18:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 18:43:36
    Clears would be a medium weight tactile switch and greens or whites a medium weight tactile switch?

    That depends on how you define medium weight. Clears actuate at 55cn, greens and whites at 80cn.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:20:48
    Does someone know if the 'right click' (function?) key has a name like mod something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:22:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:18:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 18:43:36
    Clears would be a medium weight tactile switch and greens or whites a medium weight tactile switch?

    That depends on how you define medium weight. Clears actuate at 55cn, greens and whites at 80cn.

    Clears have a unique spring, which is why this is the case, even though clears are still comparabley stiff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:28:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:18:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 18:43:36
    Clears would be a medium weight tactile switch and greens or whites a medium weight tactile switch?

    That depends on how you define medium weight. Clears actuate at 55cn, greens and whites at 80cn.

    OK I know that at one point there was a pic posted with 9 different switches and was arranged by feel in rows and weight in columns.  Is there any way we can get that posted to the OP?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:31:56
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:20:48
    Does someone know if the 'right click' (function?) key has a name like mod something?

    Not understanding your question. Explain please.

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:28:59
    OK I know that at one point there was a pic posted with 9 different switches and was arranged by feel in rows and weight in columns.  Is there any way we can get that posted to the OP?

    If you can find it. I spend 30 mins looking for this supposed picture and dubsgalore spent more. He misremembered the one from calavera's Korean Spring buy as this. I'm not hunting Google again. Find it and post it here and I'll do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:35:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:31:56
    Not understanding your question. Explain please.

    For instance, the super key 'alias' is mod4, alt is 'mod1'. I would like to know if this to the right of the right super has such a name.

    Just out of curiosity XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:07:45
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:35:40
    For instance, the super key 'alias' is mod4, alt is 'mod1'. I would like to know if this to the right of the right super has such a name.

    Just out of curiosity XD

    Do you mean the menu key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:08:06
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:07:45
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:35:40
    For instance, the super key 'alias' is mod4, alt is 'mod1'. I would like to know if this to the right of the right super has such a name.

    Just out of curiosity XD

    Do you mean the menu key?

    Yes!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:11:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:28:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:18:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 18:43:36
    Clears would be a medium weight tactile switch and greens or whites a medium weight tactile switch?

    That depends on how you define medium weight. Clears actuate at 55cn, greens and whites at 80cn.

    OK I know that at one point there was a pic posted with 9 different switches and was arranged by feel in rows and weight in columns.  Is there any way we can get that posted to the OP?
    (http://i.imgur.com/a4HY9.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:27:33
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:11:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:28:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:18:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 18:43:36
    Clears would be a medium weight tactile switch and greens or whites a medium weight tactile switch?

    That depends on how you define medium weight. Clears actuate at 55cn, greens and whites at 80cn.

    OK I know that at one point there was a pic posted with 9 different switches and was arranged by feel in rows and weight in columns.  Is there any way we can get that posted to the OP?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/a4HY9.jpg)


    Awesome find mkultra.  That isn't the one I remember seeing but will work better.  Thanks a ton guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:36:56
    Added to the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:42:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:27:33
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 12 August 2013, 20:11:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:28:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 August 2013, 19:18:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 18:43:36
    Clears would be a medium weight tactile switch and greens or whites a medium weight tactile switch?

    That depends on how you define medium weight. Clears actuate at 55cn, greens and whites at 80cn.

    OK I know that at one point there was a pic posted with 9 different switches and was arranged by feel in rows and weight in columns.  Is there any way we can get that posted to the OP?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/a4HY9.jpg)


    Awesome find mkultra.  That isn't the one I remember seeing but will work better.  Thanks a ton guys.

    If you Google ripster spring guide it should link you to his imgur which has that plus many more images.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 13 August 2013, 09:48:08
    Not sure how simple this is, but does anyone know of a good source for very thin layers of memory foam in the US?  I keep seeing it mentioned as a bottom [dampening] layer in Korean customs, and I believe I could really use something to fill the cavity between the bottom of the case and the PCB in my Filcos.  Memory foam should be noncapacitive / conductive, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Xenderwind on Tue, 13 August 2013, 09:51:19
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 13 August 2013, 09:48:08
    Not sure how simple this is, but does anyone know of a good source for very thin layers of memory foam in the US?  I keep seeing it mentioned as a bottom [dampening] layer in Korean customs, and I believe I could really use something to fill the cavity between the bottom of the case and the PCB in my Filcos.  Memory foam should be noncapacitive / conductive, right?

    Not sure about memory foam but I think I remember people using like draw liner stuff.  You can get it at the dollar store.
    (http://www.rabbitlaserusa.com/images/Supplies/NonSlipDrawerLiner2.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 August 2013, 09:52:37
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 13 August 2013, 09:48:08
    Not sure how simple this is, but does anyone know of a good source for very thin layers of memory foam in the US?  I keep seeing it mentioned as a bottom [dampening] layer in Korean customs, and I believe I could really use something to fill the cavity between the bottom of the case and the PCB in my Filcos.  Memory foam should be noncapacitive / conductive, right?

    What about shelf liner material?

    http://www.amazon.com/Duck-1100731-Non-Adhesive-12-Inch-20-Feet/dp/B002AS9NAI/ref=lp_3744211_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1376405446&sr=1-3 (http://www.amazon.com/Duck-1100731-Non-Adhesive-12-Inch-20-Feet/dp/B002AS9NAI/ref=lp_3744211_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1376405446&sr=1-3)

    Or would this work?

    http://www.amazon.com/Resilient-Extreme-Temperature-Silicone-Cellular/dp/B00CCGYEAC/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1376405467&sr=8-16&keywords=memory+foam+sheet (http://www.amazon.com/Resilient-Extreme-Temperature-Silicone-Cellular/dp/B00CCGYEAC/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1376405467&sr=8-16&keywords=memory+foam+sheet)


    bah! my work internet is being wonky....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 August 2013, 09:55:20
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 13 August 2013, 09:48:08
    Not sure how simple this is, but does anyone know of a good source for very thin layers of memory foam in the US?  I keep seeing it mentioned as a bottom [dampening] layer in Korean customs, and I believe I could really use something to fill the cavity between the bottom of the case and the PCB in my Filcos.  Memory foam should be noncapacitive / conductive, right?

    I use kitchen drawer liner from Target.

    I've done this mod to my Leopold FC700R and it really helped. Funny thing is I didn't do it to the KMAC...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 13 August 2013, 09:59:41
    Excellent--thanks guys!!  I know where to find those :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Wed, 14 August 2013, 03:01:33
    Never mind.
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 14 August 2013, 10:57:28
    Does anyone know the quality of blank Filco keycaps? I'm thinking of buying a set for $35, however I'm not sure if I should spend a little more on blank PBTs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 August 2013, 10:58:47
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 14 August 2013, 10:57:28
    Does anyone know the quality of black Filco keycaps? I'm thinking of buying a set for $35, however I'm not sure if I should spend a little more on blank PBTs.

    The Filco keycaps I have are ok. Better than WASD, not as good as SP. Might as well spend on SP, Cherry/GMK, or PBTs. Subjective though, gonna be a lot of opinions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:53:09
    Does anyone know what row the insert, home and page up keys are? as well as the delete, end, and page down keys? are they the same row as qwer and asdf? I'm buying from wasd, and i think they have a different row-numbering system.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:54:03
    Insert Home and Page Up are F-row/number row. Delete, End, and Page Down are qwer row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:55:43
    Can anyone tell me whether MX is better than Topre?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:56:09
    Topre is better, costs more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:56:44
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:56:09
    Topre is better, costs more.

    Wrong. Topre is better because it doesn't need loads of grease to feel like Topre.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:58:32
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:55:43
    Can anyone tell me whether MX is better than Topre?

    Hush child. The only switch you'll ever need again is Matias Clicky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Wed, 14 August 2013, 17:00:45
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:56:44
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:56:09
    Topre is better, costs more.

    Wrong. Topre is better because it doesn't need loads of grease to feel like Topre.

    I like greese
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Thimplum on Wed, 14 August 2013, 17:28:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:58:32
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:55:43
    Can anyone tell me whether MX is better than Topre?

    Hush child. The only switch you'll ever need again is Matias Clicky.

    The newbie is really coming out today!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 August 2013, 18:50:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:58:32
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:55:43
    Can anyone tell me whether MX is better than Topre?

    Hush child. The only switch you'll ever need again is Matias Clicky.

    He should know. I heard he got a couple switches to try recently. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: driph on Thu, 15 August 2013, 01:33:32
    Here's a quick one. Received the Shine III today, and I've got one quick question. After choosing a custom profile (Fn+CM1, or Fn+CM2), is there a way to return to the previous regular mode, or do I need to hit Fn+F10 and cycle through the settings every time?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:11:36
    Does updating/modifying the op in the classified section bump your thread?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:13:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:11:36
    Does updating/modifying the op in the classified section bump your thread?
    No, it doesn't. I know from experience :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:16:05
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:13:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:11:36
    Does updating/modifying the op in the classified section bump your thread?
    No, it doesn't. I know from experience :))

    Which is why people update the OP and than add an extra post to the end summarising what they have done.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:19:16
    Cool thanks guys.  Also correct me if I am wrong but light colors can't be dyesubbed onto a darker colored cap right?  For instance a light to medium grey legend on a purple cap can't be done right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:41:28
    How's the quality of the keycaps sold by elitekeyboads?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 04:53:08
    Is there a picture floating around with a side by side comparison of the various key profiles? I keep hearing terms like OEM, DSA etc floating around, and I'd like to know how they compare.

    I'm looking at potentially getting in on a keyset buy, but I need to have some idea of which profile I'd want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:10:47
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 04:53:08
    Is there a picture floating around with a side by side comparison of the various key profiles? I keep hearing terms like OEM, DSA etc floating around, and I'd like to know how they compare.

    I'm looking at potentially getting in on a keyset buy, but I need to have some idea of which profile I'd want.

    Here is one that I know of (http://keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php).  The DCS is the standard profile for group buys around here from what I have seen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:33:16
    That totally helps a lot.

    SS looks like my ticket.

    Also, where does OEM fall?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:37:43
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:33:16
    Also, where does OEM fall?

    OEM is usually the tallest profile. However, my Leopold FC700R caps were almost flat.

    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:10:47
    Here is one that I know of (http://keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php).  The DCS is the standard profile for group buys around here from what I have seen.

    DCS is Signature Plastic's version of of the original/OG/standard Cherry profile. It's almost the same as the Cherry profile. I believe that the bottom modifier row has more of an angle than Cherry though. The back is angled more, hence the complaint of the sharp DCS spacebars.

    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:41:28
    How's the quality of the keycaps sold by elitekeyboads?

    Which ones? The Topre caps are probably the only aftermarket Topre caps you can get. The MX caps are GMK caps which means they're "new" Cherry thick ABS doubleshots.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:45:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:37:43
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:33:16
    Also, where does OEM fall?

    OEM is usually the tallest profile. However, my Leopold FC700R caps were almost flat.

    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:41:28
    How's the quality of the keycaps sold by elitekeyboads?

    Which ones? The Topre caps are probably the only aftermarket Topre caps you can get. The MX caps are GMK caps which means they're "new" Cherry thick ABS doubleshots.
    the full sets for mx. thx
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:45:38
    Okay.

    Now I must find an SA group buy, and pretend I can afford it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:52:34
    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:45:06
    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:41:28
    Which ones? The Topre caps are probably the only aftermarket Topre caps you can get. The MX caps are GMK caps which means they're "new" Cherry thick ABS doubleshots.
    the full sets for mx. thx

    Wow, I didn't even know they had fullsets. They're Pad Printed which are usually seen as low quality. And $20 a set? Probably not too good but I'm just speculating. I honestly have no idea.

    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:45:38
    Now I must find an SA group buy, and pretend I can afford it.

    Commando SA GroupBuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:55:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:52:34
    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:45:06
    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:41:28
    Which ones? The Topre caps are probably the only aftermarket Topre caps you can get. The MX caps are GMK caps which means they're "new" Cherry thick ABS doubleshots.
    the full sets for mx. thx

    Wow, I didn't even know they had fullsets. They're Pad Printed which are usually seen as low quality. And $20 a set? Probably not too good but I'm just speculating. I honestly have no idea.

    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:45:38
    Now I must find an SA group buy, and pretend I can afford it.

    Commando SA GroupBuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0)

    Unfortunately, I tend to disassociate with anything overtly military. I just feel like it's tacky, and disrespectful. I know lots of people, and soldiers go into the whole, I paint my truck camo tendency, but I just can't do it.

    Eish.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 15 August 2013, 06:20:45
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:55:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:52:34
    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:45:06
    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 15 August 2013, 02:41:28
    Which ones? The Topre caps are probably the only aftermarket Topre caps you can get. The MX caps are GMK caps which means they're "new" Cherry thick ABS doubleshots.
    the full sets for mx. thx

    Wow, I didn't even know they had fullsets. They're Pad Printed which are usually seen as low quality. And $20 a set? Probably not too good but I'm just speculating. I honestly have no idea.

    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 05:45:38
    Now I must find an SA group buy, and pretend I can afford it.

    Commando SA GroupBuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0)

    Unfortunately, I tend to disassociate with anything overtly military. I just feel like it's tacky, and disrespectful. I know lots of people, and soldiers go into the whole, I paint my truck camo tendency, but I just can't do it.

    Eish.

    Totally understandable.  We had a guy in our squadron that snagged a bunch leftover paint from our H-60's and painted his truck with it.  Including details like Caution Hot Exhaust arrow pointing at the exhaust pipe, Escape arrow pointing toward the door handle and everything.  Decent quality wise as far as workmanship but looked like crap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:22:29
    Very important, guys.

    What all needs to be modded on a Phantom plate to fit a QFR pcb?

    I'm hearing that the controller (located above the arrow keys) needs to be added to the phantom plate, but will everything else match correctly?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:25:50
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:22:29
    I'm hearing that the controller (located above the arrow keys) needs to be added to the phantom plate, but will everything else match correctly?

    From the pictures I've seen, it looks like this will work. Just desolder the switches off the QFR, pop off the controller, plate the switches and then put the PCB on. Then put the controller on through the plate opening for the controller. Solder it all back together, drop into a case. I'm not 100% sure though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:29:29
    Okay, so this way, the controller would show through the plate? We're cutting a hole in the plate for it, not carving a pocket out, right?

    I ask, because I'm looking at an acrylic plate at the moment, and it would change the aesthetics, though not necessarily for the worse.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:32:06
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:29:29
    Okay, so this way, the controller would show through the plate? We're cutting a hole in the plate for it, not carving a pocket out, right?

    Ok I'm mistaken. WFD did two runs of TKL plates: A universal and a Phantom. Check out the differences.

    Universal TKL: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg988239#msg988239
    Phantom TKL: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg988884#msg988884
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:42:01
    Are there any major differences beside the controller? It looks like, eyeballing it here, modding out those 5 keys that sit where the controller would be, everything else lines up?

    Or are there screw holes or something integral to it's operation that just wont match up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:45:18
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:42:01
    Are there any major differences beside the controller? It looks like, eyeballing it here, modding out those 5 keys that sit where the controller would be, everything else lines up?

    Or are there screw holes or something integral to it's operation that just wont match up?

    Sending WFD a PM on this topic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:46:00
    Cool. It's my bedtime, let me know what you find out, Melv.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:48:17
    Not a problem
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:53:02
    Just FYI Calmb4 and Melvang, WFD is on vacation until 8/21 I believe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:56:37
    oh, it WFD codename for Feng?

    He's been active on the forums, and hasn't been responding to -business- correspondence, but might respond to questions of this nature.
    I'm in no particular rush, though, so it can wait for him to get back. I'd rather get this done right.

    Thanks CPT, and thanks Melv.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:57:45
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:56:37
    oh, it WFD codename for Feng?

    He's been active on the forums, and hasn't been responding to -business- correspondence, but might respond to questions of this nature.
    I'm in no particular rush, though, so it can wait for him to get back. I'd rather get this done right.

    Thanks CPT, and thanks Melv.

    WFD is White Fire Dragon :P

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 08:00:08
    Did they go on vacation together then? Because Feng's also on vacation until the 21st.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 08:03:52
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 08:00:08
    Did they go on vacation together then? Because Feng's also on vacation until the 21st.

    What? They don't live anywhere near each other. I doubt it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 August 2013, 08:13:57
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 08:00:08
    Did they go on vacation together then? Because Feng's also on vacation until the 21st.

    WFD is gone until the 27th.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 15 August 2013, 08:44:44
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 14 August 2013, 16:53:09
    Does anyone know what row the insert, home and page up keys are? as well as the delete, end, and page down keys? are they the same row as qwer and asdf? I'm buying from wasd, and i think they have a different row-numbering system.
    (http://i.imgur.com/UkkYVVN.jpg)

    From sherrys site
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 16 August 2013, 00:12:54
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:22:29
    What all needs to be modded on a Phantom plate to fit a QFR pcb?

    I'm hearing that the controller (located above the arrow keys) needs to be added to the phantom plate, but will everything else match correctly?

    I just replied to Melvang's PM on this. But in case he doesn't pass on the info:

    Phantom1 plates (black aluminum ones) were not designed by me, so you'll need to drill screw holes and the mill out the area for the controller. All round2 phantom plates were designed by me, and they were designed to fit a QFR case. There are already screw holes, but you'll need to cut an area for the controller. Everything else was made to match up.


    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:29:29
    I ask, because I'm looking at an acrylic plate at the moment, and it would change the aesthetics, though not necessarily for the worse.

    Acrylic most likely won't work in this case. Acrylic plates and half-plates work for some Korean keyboards because they use standoffs that hold up the PCB. However, a QFR has standoffs that hold up the plate. The acrylic needs to be 0.060" because not only does the standoffs are only long enough for a certain thickness, the switches require 0.060" for the switches to lock onto the plate. The problem with having acrylic this thin is that you'll have some crazy flexing and a very weak PCB/plate combo. It might even snap because the 4 standoff points that hold up the acrylic are not symmetrical.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 16 August 2013, 00:23:31
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 16 August 2013, 00:12:54
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:22:29
    What all needs to be modded on a Phantom plate to fit a QFR pcb?

    I'm hearing that the controller (located above the arrow keys) needs to be added to the phantom plate, but will everything else match correctly?

    I just replied to Melvang's PM on this. But in case he doesn't pass on the info:

    Phantom1 plates (black aluminum ones) were not designed by me, so you'll need to drill screw holes and the mill out the area for the controller. All round2 phantom plates were designed by me, and they were designed to fit a QFR case. There are already screw holes, but you'll need to cut an area for the controller. Everything else was made to match up.


    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Thu, 15 August 2013, 07:29:29
    I ask, because I'm looking at an acrylic plate at the moment, and it would change the aesthetics, though not necessarily for the worse.

    Acrylic most likely won't work in this case. Acrylic plates and half-plates work for some Korean keyboards because they use standoffs that hold up the PCB. However, a QFR has standoffs that hold up the plate. The acrylic needs to be 0.060" because not only does the standoffs are only long enough for a certain thickness, the switches require 0.060" for the switches to lock onto the plate. The problem with having acrylic this thin is that you'll have some crazy flexing and a very weak PCB/plate combo. It might even snap because the 4 standoff points that hold up the acrylic are not symmetrical.

    Thanks for the reply WFD. I promise I won't bother you with shop talk until after your vacation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 16 August 2013, 00:27:00
    No worries, if I can't respond because lack of time or internet, then I simply won't  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: snoopy on Fri, 16 August 2013, 10:22:30
    Is there a solid color buckling spring clack beside HO and the RWBs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 August 2013, 11:26:50
    Quote from: snoopy on Fri, 16 August 2013, 10:22:30
    Is there a solid color buckling spring clack beside HO and the RWBs?

    I don't think so.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 16 August 2013, 11:30:58
    Hack Orange
    Hardcore White
    Revenge Red
    Ionosphere Blue
    Mr. Friday
    Salute
    OG Tricolor (only one that I know of)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 August 2013, 12:33:56
    Thought he was asking just for the solid color BS Clacks :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: snoopy on Fri, 16 August 2013, 12:39:54
    Thanks guys. I know about the bi/tricolor skulls. I was just wondering if there's a rare solid color one that I don't know about.

     :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 16 August 2013, 12:40:58
    I just figured I'd list them all...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 16 August 2013, 17:21:30
    On the back of an 1800 which position should the dip switch be in?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 16 August 2013, 17:45:34
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 16 August 2013, 17:21:30
    On the back of an 1800 which position should the dip switch be in?

    G80-1800 or G81-1800?
    it should be set to AT. please refer to this thread..
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9818.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:01:23
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 16 August 2013, 17:45:34
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 16 August 2013, 17:21:30
    On the back of an 1800 which position should the dip switch be in?

    G80-1800 or G81-1800?
    it should be set to AT. please refer to this thread..
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9818.0

    G80.
    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:20:49
    Are the Ergodox switches plate or pcb mounted?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:21:21
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:20:49
    Are the Ergodox switches plate or pcb mounted?

    Plate sorta, the switches mount through the top of the acrylic case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:21:53
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:21:21
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:20:49
    Are the Ergodox switches plate or pcb mounted?

    Plate sorta, the switches mount through the top of the acrylic case.

    Thanks digi :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:27:12
    That layer of the case is the plate, so technically plate mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: driph on Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:50:24
    Quote from: driph on Thu, 15 August 2013, 01:33:32
    Here's a quick one. Received the Shine III today, and I've got one quick question. After choosing a custom profile (Fn+CM1, or Fn+CM2), is there a way to return to the previous regular mode, or do I need to hit Fn+F10 and cycle through the settings every time?

    Answering my own question because Ducky responded.

    No simple way to return to the previous mode after switching to a custom profile. You'll need to switch through the lighting modes manually to get to the one you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Sat, 17 August 2013, 17:50:12
    What blue modifier sets are there other than the raindrop set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 17 August 2013, 19:18:42
    Quote from: lcs on Sat, 17 August 2013, 17:50:12
    What blue modifier sets are there other than the raindrop set?

    Imsto had some I believe
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Sat, 17 August 2013, 19:41:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 17 August 2013, 19:18:42
    Quote from: lcs on Sat, 17 August 2013, 17:50:12
    What blue modifier sets are there other than the raindrop set?

    Imsto had some I believe

    Thanks again Captain :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 17 August 2013, 19:51:43
    Quote from: lcs on Sat, 17 August 2013, 17:50:12
    What blue modifier sets are there other than the raindrop set?

    SP have blue modifier sets, but you need to know it is DSA profile.
    I believe wasd also have it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JPG on Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:12:03
    Hey, I just learned basically how a controler works and was a little surprised that it scans the columns one by one to know witch switches are activated (it makes sense but I was still surprised).

    But 2 questions came to my mind:

    1. What's the polling rate for a full cycle (how long it takes to scan all the columns once). I suspect it varies depending on the controler itself, so how to know whats the polling rate of a specific controler and what's a typical polling rate for a modern controler?

    2. Is there a way to get the same result without having to have a direct connexion to the controler for each switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:38:09
    Quote from: JPG on Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:12:03
    Hey, I just learned basically how a controler works and was a little surprised that it scans the columns one by one to know witch switches are activated (it makes sense but I was still surprised).

    But 2 questions came to my mind:

    1. What's the polling rate for a full cycle (how long it takes to scan all the columns once). I suspect it varies depending on the controler itself, so how to know whats the polling rate of a specific controler and what's a typical polling rate for a modern controler?

    2. Is there a way to get the same result without having to have a direct connexion to the controler for each switch?

    2. most custom firmware does not require a connection to every switch directly. they are connected via a matrix.
    so only one wire per column and one wire per row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JPG on Sun, 18 August 2013, 17:44:38
    Quote from: domoaligato on Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:38:09
    Quote from: JPG on Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:12:03
    Hey, I just learned basically how a controller works and was a little surprised that it scans the columns one by one to know witch switches are activated (it makes sense but I was still surprised).

    But 2 questions came to my mind:

    1. What's the polling rate for a full cycle (how long it takes to scan all the columns once). I suspect it varies depending on the controller itself, so how to know whats the polling rate of a specific controller and what's a typical polling rate for a modern controller?

    2. Is there a way to get the same result without having to have a direct connection to the controller for each switch?

    2. most custom firmware does not require a connection to every switch directly. they are connected via a matrix.
    so only one wire per column and one wire per row.

    You got my question wrong: I understand that the controller scans each columns of the matrix and that it's the way for the controller to know which key(s) are pressed, but I wanted to know if there was a way to achieve this without having to scan the columns but rather to "always" know which key(s) are pressed anytime (not only when the column is scanned). With a direct connection to each switch, it would be possible, but it would require a controller with as many pins as you have switches, so I rather want to know if it is possible to work with a matrix but one that would have no need to scan the columns individually (maybe with a double matrix and an algorithm or something else).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:29:00
    1.  The only difference between the FC660M and the FC660C is the "M" is Cherry MX and the "C" is Topre switches correct?

    2.  Is there any odd ball sized keys that make it a pain to get a set of caps for on the Cherry version?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Xenderwind on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:34:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:29:00
    1.  The only difference between the FC660M and the FC660C is the "M" is Cherry MX and the "C" is Topre switches correct?

    2.  Is there any odd ball sized keys that make it a pain to get a set of caps for on the Cherry version?

    1.  I believe so

    2.  looking at this picture (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/fc660m_full1000_th620x400.jpg)
    Theres a short right shift, a 1x? modifier and I believe that means the spacebar is not a standard size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 19 August 2013, 00:10:19
    Quote from: Xenderwind on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:34:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:29:00
    1.  The only difference between the FC660M and the FC660C is the "M" is Cherry MX and the "C" is Topre switches correct?

    2.  Is there any odd ball sized keys that make it a pain to get a set of caps for on the Cherry version?

    1.  I believe so

    2.  looking at this picture
    Show Image
    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/fc660m_full1000_th620x400.jpg)

    Theres a short right shift, a 1x? modifier and I believe that means the spacebar is not a standard size.

    Cool thanks Xenderwind.

    Another question. 

    Would any of the Teensy boards support PWM for user adjustable LEDs such as whats in the Razer Naga Epic?  If it is possible how difficult would it be to create a program that can communicate with the Teensy to adjust the color and brightness from a windows/mac/linux OS?

    Edit:  Is the Race and the Pure the only 2 sub TKL and Sub $250 boards with dedicated arrow keys with caps that are readily available with standard GB's?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 19 August 2013, 06:12:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 19 August 2013, 00:10:19
    Edit: Is the Race and the Pure the only 2 sub TKL and Sub $250 boards with dedicated arrow keys with caps that are readily available with standard GB's?

    The Pure has no dedicated arrow keys, and if you mean the Pure Pro, it has quite a few keys which you will probably not be able to get via GBs (1x1 shifts and backspace for example).
    The Race is not Tsangan kit compatible either.
    Here you can see the non-standard keycap sizes of sub TKL boards: The MiniLa Convention (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46620.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 August 2013, 06:32:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:29:00
    1.  The only difference between the FC660M and the FC660C is the "M" is Cherry MX and the "C" is Topre switches correct?

    2.  Is there any odd ball sized keys that make it a pain to get a set of caps for on the Cherry version?

    1) Correct

    2) Xenderwind is right, just wanted to add some more info. Check out this picture from Aggiejy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg989254#msg989254).

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33130.0;attach=30851;image)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:20:16
    So I have a Poker X with ergo-clears and I wanted to try mixing it with some Panda clears. What are some examples of ergonomic setups that I can try?

    I was thinking something liek the realforce one

    (http://i.imgur.com/RnpGv.jpg)
    But I would change it to only use heavy and light springs, since I don't have a spring in between the two.

    FOLLOWUP: I made a layout that I will try. Will edit with my take, so  anyone who reads this can have the answer in my post :).

    (http://i.imgur.com/yNh8f1R.jpg)

    FOLLOWUP 2: I just swapped the springs. It feels really cool. I like it a lot at first try.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:26:39
    as a fan of light switches (brown/blue), I'm curious about the korean 55 and 45g springs. Anyone has any experience with them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:32:07
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:20:16
    So I have a Poker X with ergo-clears and I wanted to try mixing it with some Panda clears. What kind of ergonomic set up can I do to make it comfortable?

    I was thinking something liek the realforce one

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RnpGv.jpg)

    But I would change it to only use heavy and light springs, since I don't have a spring in between the two.

    How would anyone else know what you think is "comfortable". This is something only you would know. If you want to make it variable? Make it variable. For me? I only like uniform boards.

    Quote from: phx on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:26:39
    as a fan of light switches (brown/blue), I'm curious about the korean 55 and 45g springs. Anyone has any experience with them?

    55g were a touch lighter than Reds with the Korean spring cushiony bottom out. Way too light for me. Never tried 45g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:41:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:32:07
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:20:16
    So I have a Poker X with ergo-clears and I wanted to try mixing it with some Panda clears. What kind of ergonomic set up can I do to make it comfortable?

    I was thinking something liek the realforce one

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RnpGv.jpg)

    But I would change it to only use heavy and light springs, since I don't have a spring in between the two.

    How would anyone else know what you think is "comfortable". This is something only you would know. If you want to make it variable? Make it variable. For me? I only like uniform boards.


    I was asking for examples of what people have done so I can get an idea. I edited my question for clarity. Thanks CPTSassy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:43:32
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:41:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:32:07
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:20:16
    So I have a Poker X with ergo-clears and I wanted to try mixing it with some Panda clears. What kind of ergonomic set up can I do to make it comfortable?

    I was thinking something liek the realforce one

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RnpGv.jpg)

    But I would change it to only use heavy and light springs, since I don't have a spring in between the two.

    How would anyone else know what you think is "comfortable". This is something only you would know. If you want to make it variable? Make it variable. For me? I only like uniform boards.


    I was asking for examples of what people have done so I can get an idea. Thanks though.

    I'm not sure if anyone has done what your asking. Most people tend to stick with one spring type/weight.

    But when I get my phantom back from being built I plan on doing some spring swaps to see what I like best, I plan on doing some modifiers different than the alphas etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:49:41
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:41:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:32:07
    How would anyone else know what you think is "comfortable". This is something only you would know. If you want to make it variable? Make it variable. For me? I only like uniform boards.


    I was asking for examples of what people have done so I can get an idea. I edited my question for clarity. Thanks CPTSassy.

    This thread is called Simple Questions, Simple Answers. Not "Guess At What My Question is and Answer the Question You Think I'm Asking". Clarity and brevity is always good. I can't read your mind and I'm not going to guess what you want. I want to help you, not confuse you.

    On a more helpful note, I've seen a lot of people emulate the RealForce setup or have the alphas and modifers have a different layout. In other words, some people like heavier alphas and lighter mods or vice versa. And for some reason, I've seen a lot of custom layouts have linear switches in the WASD and arrows.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:23:44
    If it helps I like uniform boards but I don't mind other switch types on some keys.  But I have limits.  The only keys that I can do a different switch type are keys where you normally lift your hand from home row to hit.  IE on TKL or full sized boards the nav block, arrow keys, the ten key side, and the ESC key.  Also for me the space bar has to have the same switch type (linear, tactile, clicky) but can have a heavier spring.  The one exception to this is my Orbweave has reds on WASD and either clears or ergo clears on the other switches.  But that is strictly a gaming pad.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lucifurburch on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:36:07
    i was looking at an ibm pc jr and was wondering is it compatible with a modern pc and if not how hard would it b to make it compatible?.....it has Infra-Red conectivity and has a "phone" style conector in the back... dont think the infra red will b much help though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:39:03
    Quote from: lucifurburch on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:36:07
    i was looking at an ibm pc jr and was wondering is it compatible with a modern pc and if not how hard would it b to make it compatible?.....it has Infra-Red conectivity and has a "phone" style conector in the back... dont think the infra red will b much help though

    If you're talking about the one I think you are, don't even bother getting it.  It's a horrible rubber dome keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:39:21
    Are there any 75% or smaller boards with dedicated arrow keys that do not have any odd sized caps that make group buys very frustrating?  If not the wife said she could go TKL
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:05:24
    MX Mini?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:15:31
    Also KMAC Mini, if you're willing to do a tsangan kit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:37:34
    Is it possible that I could have screwed up the MX switch bottom to where clicky switches won't click? Just moved from MX Clears to MX Whites in my Poker, and Z and backspace might as well be MX reds; there's no click whatsoever. I switched out the stems a few times and it didn't change so all I can see is that I somehow bent the actuation lever in the switch bottom. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lucifurburch on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:41:38
    if she likes normal tenkeyless boards
    i would recomend a leopold, a quick fire rapid or a filco. the reason... they all compatible with like 99% of after market keycaps with no need for any extra/odd keys..... :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:47:28
    Quote from: lucifurburch on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:41:38
    if she likes normal tenkeyless boards
    i would recomend a leopold, a quick fire rapid or a filco. the reason... they all compatible with like 99% of after market keycaps with no need for any extra/odd keys..... :p

    Thats what I was thinking mostly due to the price of the KMAC mini and the LZ MX Mini.  I'm sure that a Filco TKL would be considerably cheaper than either of these other 2.  Though the LZ looks like a very nice layout.  Any "stock" TKL out there with plate mount and the Tsangan mods?  That is if the tsangan mods are the 1.5, 1,1.5 setup.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 August 2013, 22:16:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:47:28
    Any "stock" TKL out there with plate mount and the Tsangan mods?  That is if the tsangan mods are the 1.5, 1,1.5 setup.

    Older Cherry boards will have a 1.5x mods but they won't be TKL. Those are the only stock boards I can think of with 1.5x.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lucifurburch on Mon, 19 August 2013, 22:26:37
    is there a reason you want 1.5x mods?
    all the keyboards i mentioned earlier use 1.25x mods which is good as they are more common and therefore make it easyer and cheaper to buy keycaps, also the Leopold i mentioned earlier is a little more expensive then the other two but has the most common key layout and cherry stabilizers...meaning it would be easy to change the keycaps and would be the cheapest to buy keycaps for

    [attachimg=1]
    cherry stabilizers=no annoying stabilizer wires
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 19 August 2013, 23:02:21
    Quote from: lucifurburch on Mon, 19 August 2013, 22:26:37
    is there a reason you want 1.5x mods?
    all the keyboards i mentioned earlier use 1.25x mods which is good as they are more common and therefore make it easyer and cheaper to buy keycaps, also the Leopold i mentioned earlier is a little more expensive then the other two but has the most common key layout and cherry stabilizers...meaning it would be easy to change the keycaps and would be the cheapest to buy keycaps for

    (Attachment Link)
    cherry stabilizers=no annoying stabilizer wires

    Just curious mostly will probably stick to the 1.25 mods for the wifes board but a lot of GB's seem to be adding the 1.5 mod kits
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 August 2013, 23:09:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 19 August 2013, 23:02:21
    Just curious mostly will probably stick to the 1.25 mods for the wifes board but a lot of GB's seem to be adding the 1.5 mod kits

    You mean a Tsangan kit?  Those are for special keyboard layouts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 20 August 2013, 12:41:42
    Just because they're adding them doesn't mean you need them or need a keyboard that has them.

    That being said, there are some TKL boards that do have certain 1.5x mods. Usually though, they come with a not so common size spacebar as a result.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:36:12
    So are stock white switches lighter than clear switches?

    And is the only difference between whites and greens, the fact that whites a factory lubed so they are quieter?

    Finally has anyone experienced a board with white where a few of the switches didn't click?

    And is there a combo of the weight of clears but slightly clicky like whites?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:40:49
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:36:12
    So are stock white switches lighter than clear switches?

    And is the only difference between whites and greens, the fact that whites a factory lubed so they are quieter?

    Finally has anyone experienced a board with white where a few of the switches didn't click?

    You're not pulling a MOZ because of things that were said to you, are you...? <_<
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:41:50
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:40:49
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:36:12
    So are stock white switches lighter than clear switches?

    And is the only difference between whites and greens, the fact that whites a factory lubed so they are quieter?

    Finally has anyone experienced a board with white where a few of the switches didn't click?

    You're not pulling a MOZ because of things that were said to you, are you...? <_<

    Dude I'm serious. I'm typing on this board with whites and they just feel really light.

    And a few of the switches don't click at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:51:41
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:36:12
    So are stock white switches lighter than clear switches?

    And is the only difference between whites and greens, the fact that whites a factory lubed so they are quieter?

    Finally has anyone experienced a board with white where a few of the switches didn't click?

    And is there a combo of the weight of clears but slightly clicky like whites?

    Step one: Read the OP. It answers the first two of your questions.  Maybe if you weren't just posting because missalaire called you out on it, you'd have time to read these things?
    Step two: Seriously, no need to be upset.
    Step three: Learn to combine stems/springs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:56:37
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:51:41
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:36:12
    So are stock white switches lighter than clear switches?

    And is the only difference between whites and greens, the fact that whites a factory lubed so they are quieter?

    Finally has anyone experienced a board with white where a few of the switches didn't click?

    And is there a combo of the weight of clears but slightly clicky like whites?

    Step one: Read the OP. It answers the first two of your questions.  Maybe if you weren't just posting because missalaire called you out on it, you'd have time to read these things?
    Step two: Seriously, no need to be upset.
    Step three: Learn to combine stems/springs


    Everyone always says read the OP. I was just asking a serious question and could care less what anyone said. I just got a 'new to me keyboard' and am having issues understanding it's feeling.

    go sort some keycaps TJ :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:57:27
    Definitely upset.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:58:30
    Someone here had to exchange their board with Whites (a KBC Race, I think) because a few switches did not click.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:59:35
    Hush children.

    Really though Ray, check out the OP. It has a lot of info that you could get behind. And yes, I have a few Whites on my Pure that don't click as much as other switches. I think its a quality control issue with the lubrication.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:02:20
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:56:37
    Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:51:41
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:36:12
    So are stock white switches lighter than clear switches?

    And is the only difference between whites and greens, the fact that whites a factory lubed so they are quieter?

    Finally has anyone experienced a board with white where a few of the switches didn't click?

    And is there a combo of the weight of clears but slightly clicky like whites?

    Step one: Read the OP. It answers the first two of your questions.  Maybe if you weren't just posting because missalaire called you out on it, you'd have time to read these things?
    Step two: Seriously, no need to be upset.
    Step three: Learn to combine stems/springs


    Everyone always says read the OP. I was just asking a serious question and could care less what anyone said. I just got a 'new to me keyboard' and am having issues understanding it's feeling.

    go sort some keycaps TJ :p

    Cool story, bro.  Go read the OP and be enlightened.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:02:37
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:57:27
    Definitely upset.

    Dang it guys. Am I going to have to post a video of me typing on this keyboard. My jimmie's are not rustled because I don't wear jimmies.

    I'm only upset because moose didn't send me a PM back.


    Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:58:30
    Someone here had to exchange their board with Whites (a KBC Race, I think) because a few switches did not click.


    sounds like quality control issue then...

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:59:35
    Hush children.

    Really though Ray, check out the OP. It has a lot of info that you could get behind. And yes, I have a few Whites on my Pure that don't click as much as other switches. I think its a quality control issue with the lubrication.


    ^^ Captain your help is appreciated. I've got at least 2 or 3 that don't click at all and at least half a dozen that half a much lesser click. And I'll read the OP but my reading comprehension sucks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 20 August 2013, 18:46:22
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:36:12
    Finally has anyone experienced a board with white where a few of the switches didn't click?


    I just posted this on the last page but I think everyone missed it since it was the last post:

    I just put whites in my Poker and a few of the switches might as well be MX Reds; there is no click at all. A few others have a very subtle click compared to the others. I switched out the stems in the problem switches to see if it would fix anything and it didn't, so I'm assuming I damaged the switch bottom and the non clickyness isn't the fault of the whites.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 19:13:17
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 20 August 2013, 18:46:22
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:36:12
    Finally has anyone experienced a board with white where a few of the switches didn't click?


    I just posted this on the last page but I think everyone missed it since it was the last post:

    I just put whites in my Poker and a few of the switches might as well be MX Reds; there is no click at all. A few others have a very subtle click compared to the others. I switched out the stems in the problem switches to see if it would fix anything and it didn't, so I'm assuming I damaged the switch bottom and the non clickyness isn't the fault of the whites.

    Yeah that's basically what I'm experiencing.  Makes me wonder if it's the leaf spring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:48:28
    Who designed the Round 1 Al plate for the Phantom?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:56:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:48:28
    Who designed the Round 1 Al plate for the Phantom?

    I'm sure there was some combined effort but I know I've seen Litster's name mentioned.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23572.msg443851.msg#443851
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 04:38:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:56:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:48:28
    Who designed the Round 1 Al plate for the Phantom?

    I'm sure there was some combined effort but I know I've seen Litster's name mentioned.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23572.msg443851.msg#443851

    Thanks Spam just trying to find the dimensions used in the plate for easy switch mods.

    Also what is the standard size for a right shift?  2.75 correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 21 August 2013, 06:37:37
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 04:38:57
    Also what is the standard size for a right shift?  2.75 correct?

    Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:29:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 04:38:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:56:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:48:28
    Who designed the Round 1 Al plate for the Phantom?

    I'm sure there was some combined effort but I know I've seen Litster's name mentioned.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23572.msg443851.msg#443851

    Thanks Spam just trying to find the dimensions used in the plate for easy switch mods.

    Also what is the standard size for a right shift?  2.75 correct?

    Yes, it was Litster.

    And this is a modified design I did to work with 90-degree rotated switches, but you can get the dimensions you need:

    (http://i.imgur.com/FeggbO6.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:38:06
    Thanks JD.  I would assume those dimensions are in decimal inches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:41:50
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:29:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 04:38:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:56:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:48:28
    Who designed the Round 1 Al plate for the Phantom?

    I'm sure there was some combined effort but I know I've seen Litster's name mentioned.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23572.msg443851.msg#443851

    Thanks Spam just trying to find the dimensions used in the plate for easy switch mods.

    Also what is the standard size for a right shift?  2.75 correct?

    Yes, it was Litster.

    And this is a modified design I did to work with 90-degree rotated switches, but you can get the dimensions you need:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/FeggbO6.png)


    ^^ I think this info should qualify for the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:45:13
    Need to confirm if its in inches first. I was in the process of updating the OP.

    I have a question: mkawa and I spoke about this but I was hoping some of the staff could help me. Can anyone on the staff (read mods/admins) add in two posts after my OP and give me control of them? The OP is starting to be a little overwhelming and I'd like to reformat how it looks and works.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:51:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:45:13
    Need to confirm if its in inches first. I was in the process of updating the OP.

    I have a question: mkawa and I spoke about this but I was hoping some of the staff could help me. Can anyone on the staff (read mods/admins) add in two posts after my OP and give me control of them? The OP is starting to be a little overwhelming and I'd like to reformat how it looks and works.
    Yeah, it's inches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 August 2013, 08:02:55
    Inches!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Thimplum on Wed, 21 August 2013, 10:01:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 August 2013, 08:02:55
    Inches!


    'murica
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 August 2013, 11:27:04
    Quote from: Thimplum on Wed, 21 August 2013, 10:01:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 August 2013, 08:02:55
    Inches!


    'murica

    Actually, those measurements are in inches because Litster's Phantom plate drawings were scaled in inches. Almost every plate drawing I make is scaled in mm, to the chagrin of local metals shops. Now you know. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:13:11
    Do all Tipro keyboards use Cherry switches? They sometimes have some weird stepped keys which make me wonder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:22:50
    Hmm. Maybe someone would know: I know there's a regular milk blue CC and a metallic milk blue CC, I've only seen the metallic in mx but am unsure about the regular. Was regular milk blue Topre only, or does that also exist in mx? I'm pretty positive regular comes in Topre and mx, but metallic is mx only. Also: gum colors(pink/purple) were Topre only runs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:24:52
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:13:11
    Do all Tipro keyboards use Cherry switches? They sometimes have some weird stepped keys which make me wonder.

    Think so. The caps are very odd on Tipros.

    Quote from: noisyturtle on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:22:50
    1) Was regular milk blue Topre only, or does that also exist in mx? I'm pretty positive regular comes in Topre and mx, but metallic is mx only.

    2)gum colors(pink/purple) were Topre only runs?

    1) I think you're right there.
    2) No I dont think so. Pretty sure I saw some MX when I was at Keycon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:28:17
    What does TW mean?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:28:50
    It means you're really new Moose. Now hush child.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:36:11
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:28:17
    What does TW mean?

    It's an abbreviation for Two Words.  Their meaning is obscure and changes once an hour.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:37:19
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:28:17
    What does TW mean?

    It means I know what something is worth, but want more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:49:36
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 21 August 2013, 18:28:17
    What does TW mean?

    Touch Wood!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 August 2013, 19:05:22
    Taiwan?

    As in www.something.com.tw
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 20:46:32
    If I got my hands on a Filco TKL plate. Can I make cutouts in the corners like the custom plates so that I can open switch tops? That's how the custom plates work right? There's just extra circular cutouts in the corners of the switch holes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 20:47:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 20:46:32
    If I got my hands on a Filco TKL plate. Can I make cutouts in the corners like the custom plates so that I can open switch tops? That's how the custom plates work right? There's just extra circular cutouts in the corners of the switch holes?

    Are you trolling your own thread?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 20:57:31
    What? No? This is a serious question wtf...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:06:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 20:57:31
    What? No? This is a serious question wtf...

    With all the other crazy stuff in thought maybe it was like a parody.

    There were measurements posted above for the switch openings, wouldn't that be what your looking for?

    The circular part through me. All I've seen are small rectangular cutouts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:18:05
    I wasn't sure because I thought those were just the standard switch holes. I'm not sure though. Want someone to confirm one way or another.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:28:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:18:05
    I wasn't sure because I thought those were just the standard switch holes. I'm not sure though. Want someone to confirm one way or another.

    I've had four different phantom plates all with those notches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:39:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 20:46:32
    If I got my hands on a Filco TKL plate. Can I make cutouts in the corners like the custom plates so that I can open switch tops? That's how the custom plates work right? There's just extra circular cutouts in the corners of the switch holes?

    I don't see why it wouldn't work.  The extra cutouts just allow the 4 prongs on the top half of the switch cover to clear the plate.  My suggestions would be either small file or a dremel.  If the plate is aluminum be prepared to clean out the cutting tool often whoever method you choose.

    Question for myself.  Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the stab locations on a 10u WYSE space bar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:44:26
    Universal TKL plate has wider rectangular switch openings--not really cut outs.

    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/platerev3.png)

    Although I imagine if you sand off protrusions for switch tabs, you would be able to open your switches.  But it'd be a lot of work, 4x "dips" per switch opening.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:55:22
    Yeah WFD redesigned his plates here is an R1 potato
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 22:04:08
    Cool. I'm going to buy a cheapo Dremel and see how it goes then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 21 August 2013, 22:04:32
    in a attempt to answer the question please correct me if I am wrong.


    normal cherry switch holes are only square.
    look at the corners of the squares above. they have a special pattern in each corner of every cutout.
    this is what allows the switches topcover teeth to pass over the bottom housing while still attached to the plate.
    If you buy any of the universal tkl plates from WFD/the_beast or have jdcarpe design one.... they all use this cutout pattern.

    the one that photoelectric posted about has the cutout for the QFR/Filco controller and will also work with the phantoms.
    it is from WFD's latest GB.

    WFD has already posted somewhere else in this thread stating the locations that would need to be cutout of previous versions of the TKL plates to make them as "universal" as this one.



    edit2: photoelectric's pic is R2. and spamrays is R1. I was right the first time. sorry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 21 August 2013, 22:05:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 22:04:08
    Cool. I'm going to buy a cheapo Dremel and see how it goes then.

    This should work fine. just test every switch cutout with a spare switch as you go.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 21 August 2013, 22:29:30
    I have a question....

    what nikkor AF-S lens are some of you using to take photos of keycaps?
    I have a nikon D80 but need a macro lens to capture the detail of my caps..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 22 August 2013, 04:15:08
    I see guys are connecting the two halves for an ergo dox via TRRS connectors.  Are they just using that plug as an alternative to a USB connector?  Also since there wouldn't be enough terminals on the connector for this to be for the matrix I would assume that it is just so the two Teensy controllers to communicate.  Would it be possible to go this route to connect just the right side of an ergo dox to a modified TKL layout board that also has the "F" keys removed with a Teensy 2.0 in the TKL or is there not enough pins for that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 22 August 2013, 07:26:24
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:39:10
    Question for myself.  Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the stab locations on a 10u WYSE space bar?

    I discuss that here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg844651#msg844651 :)

    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 August 2013, 04:15:08
    I see guys are connecting the two halves for an ergo dox via TRRS connectors.  Are they just using that plug as an alternative to a USB connector?  Also since there wouldn't be enough terminals on the connector for this to be for the matrix I would assume that it is just so the two Teensy controllers to communicate.  Would it be possible to go this route to connect just the right side of an ergo dox to a modified TKL layout board that also has the "F" keys removed with a Teensy 2.0 in the TKL or is there not enough pins for that?

    The ErgoDox left half doesn't have a Teensy, the TRRS connector connects the two halves using an expander IC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 22 August 2013, 07:59:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 22 August 2013, 07:26:24
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 21:39:10
    Question for myself.  Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the stab locations on a 10u WYSE space bar?

    I discuss that here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg844651#msg844651 :)

    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 August 2013, 04:15:08
    I see guys are connecting the two halves for an ergo dox via TRRS connectors.  Are they just using that plug as an alternative to a USB connector?  Also since there wouldn't be enough terminals on the connector for this to be for the matrix I would assume that it is just so the two Teensy controllers to communicate.  Would it be possible to go this route to connect just the right side of an ergo dox to a modified TKL layout board that also has the "F" keys removed with a Teensy 2.0 in the TKL or is there not enough pins for that?

    The ErgoDox left half doesn't have a Teensy, the TRRS connector connects the two halves using an expander IC.

    Excellent info thanx JD.  I would assume then that the expander IC just wires into the Teensy that is in the right half then?  If it does would there be enough pins left after a TKL minus F row to plug just the left half into a Teensy 2.0?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:34:41
    Thought about starting a new thread, but I will post here.

    Just looking for some opinions of spring weights for Ergo clears.  I have heard and experienced spring weighs that are so light they cause the slider to return very slowly or catch below the bump. If you know what I mean.  I want some lighter springs in my clear switches and I would to get others opinions on the stickiness of spring weights.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:37:33
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:34:41
    Thought about starting a new thread, but I will post here.

    Just looking for some opinions of spring weights for Ergo clears.  I have heard and experienced spring weighs that are so light they cause the slider to return very slowly or catch below the bump. If you know what I mean.  I want some lighter springs in my clear switches and I would to get others opinions on the stickiness of spring weights.

    I heard tell that the stickiness might have been caused by the lubrication being used as opposed to the light weight springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:39:08
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:34:41
    Thought about starting a new thread, but I will post here.

    Just looking for some opinions of spring weights for Ergo clears.  I have heard and experienced spring weighs that are so light they cause the slider to return very slowly or catch below the bump. If you know what I mean.  I want some lighter springs in my clear switches and I would to get others opinions on the stickiness of spring weights.

    I wrote about this in my review Prdlm2009 but I believe that anything under MX Black springs for ergo-clears has a bit of a sticky issue. Especially with the really light springs. i3oilermaker's QFR at Chicagoland/Gurnee was horribly sticky. Think those had 55g springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:41:52
    The king of springs is here.

    Yes, lube is known to cause stickiness if you're using a poor mixture (notably, too much grease)

    For me personally, I think 60g (red/blue/brown spring) ergo clears is fine but requires lube. But with this set up it loses a bit of its tactility, and is instead a smooth bump. Unlubed, it's definitely noticeably sticky.
    55g is a bit harder to do, but I know some people have it where it doesn't stick as much. Anything lighter I don't think would be good at all. Definitely requires proper application of lube.
    62g silver is alright, it gets a little bit more crisp. Seems to be the most popular choice, that little added weight helps with the stickiness but doesn't change much from the good old ergo clear.
    65g I hear is a bit too heavy for some people's taste, although completely relieves the switch of the sticky feeling. This and Panda Clears seems to be a good choice for people who like heavier switches but dislike stock clears.
    62g gold, I always say, is absolutely perfect. I've described it as the "63.5g" spring, where it's just in between 62g silver and 65g. Lubed or unlubed, no stick at all, and good on the fingers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:46:24
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:29:59
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:56:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:48:28
    Who designed the Round 1 Al plate for the Phantom?
    I'm sure there was some combined effort but I know I've seen Litster's name mentioned.

    Yes, it was Litster.

    I just wanted to give credit where credit is due: it was bpiphany that designed the original phantom 1x switch holes, and the modifier cutouts were directly from cherry's design on their website. BiNiaRiS was the one that sourced a manufacturer to get them made, and litster tested the prototype made from bpiphany's design. All 3 of them had contributions of the original phantom plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:49:07
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:46:24
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:29:59
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:56:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:48:28
    Who designed the Round 1 Al plate for the Phantom?
    I'm sure there was some combined effort but I know I've seen Litster's name mentioned.

    Yes, it was Litster.

    I just wanted to give credit where credit is due: it was bpiphany that designed the original phantom 1x switch holes, and the modifier cutouts were directly from cherry's design on their website. BiNiaRiS was the one that sourced a manufacturer to get them made, and litster tested the prototype made from bpiphany's design. All 3 of them had contributions of the original phantom plate.

    WFD thanks for clearing that up.

    Hope your enjoying your vacation!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:52:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 20:46:32
    If I got my hands on a Filco TKL plate. Can I make cutouts in the corners like the custom plates so that I can open switch tops? That's how the custom plates work right? There's just extra circular cutouts in the corners of the switch holes?
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 22:04:08
    Cool. I'm going to buy a cheapo Dremel and see how it goes then.

    I'm going to save you the trouble and time by saying don't bother trying.

    All stock mass-produced plates are steel, not softer aluminum. Have you tried to dremel out steel before? Each switch hole requires you to dremel out 4 slots, so that's 348 slots you'll have to shave out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:52:48
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:46:24
    I just wanted to give credit where credit is due: it was bpiphany that designed the original phantom 1x switch holes, and the modifier cutouts were directly from cherry's design on their website. BiNiaRiS was the one that sourced a manufacturer to get them made, and litster tested the prototype made from bpiphany's design. All 3 of them had contributions of the original phantom plate.

    Thanks WFD ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 22 August 2013, 11:07:50
    Quote from: Sifo on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:41:52
    The king of springs is here.

    Yes, lube is known to cause stickiness if you're using a poor mixture (notably, too much grease)

    For me personally, I think 60g (red/blue/brown spring) ergo clears is fine but requires lube. But with this set up it loses a bit of its tactility, and is instead a smooth bump. Unlubed, it's definitely noticeably sticky.
    55g is a bit harder to do, but I know some people have it where it doesn't stick as much. Anything lighter I don't think would be good at all. Definitely requires proper application of lube.
    62g silver is alright, it gets a little bit more crisp. Seems to be the most popular choice, that little added weight helps with the stickiness but doesn't change much from the good old ergo clear.
    65g I hear is a bit too heavy for some people's taste, although completely relieves the switch of the sticky feeling. This and Panda Clears seems to be a good choice for people who like heavier switches but dislike stock clears.
    62g gold, I always say, is absolutely perfect. I've described it as the "63.5g" spring, where it's just in between 62g silver and 65g. Lubed or unlubed, no stick at all, and good on the fingers.

    Lol, introduces himself as the king of springs.  Thanks guys.

    Basically, I'm looking for as light as possible without consistent stickiness issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 22 August 2013, 11:08:27
    62g silver
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 22 August 2013, 11:14:53
    Quote from: Sifo on Thu, 22 August 2013, 11:08:27
    62g silver

    Thanks.  I might buy a couple different weights between 60g and 65g and play around with them.  I tried those 55g springs and definitely felt some issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ouimeansyes on Thu, 22 August 2013, 14:29:29
    Hi all,

    I have been lurking on Geekhack for some time and have my heart set on a HHKB Pro 2. I have a quick question regarding it. Is it possible to type the € or £ symbols on a HHKB Pro 2? I need those symbols somewhat regularly and it would be nice to be able to use them relatively quickly. I believe you would be unable to produce those symbols using Alt+0128 and Alt+0163 respectively as they require either a numpad or a Fn equivalent. Do I understand correctly? Would it be a case of copying and pasting those symbols if I need to use them?

    Perhaps I should spring for a Realforce 23U as well? Although that seems a touch extreme and more expense.

    Thanks for your help.

    ouimeansyes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 22 August 2013, 14:31:01
    Quote from: ouimeansyes on Thu, 22 August 2013, 14:29:29
    Hi all,

    I have been lurking on Geekhack for some time and have my heart set on a HHKB Pro 2. I have a quick question regarding it. Is it possible to type the € or £ symbols on a HHKB Pro 2? I need those symbols somewhat regularly and it would be nice to be able to use them relatively quickly. I believe you would be unable to produce those symbols using Alt+0128 and Alt+0163 respectively as they require either a numpad or a Fn equivalent. Do I understand correctly? Would it be a case of copying and pasting those symbols if I need to use them?

    Perhaps I should spring for a Realforce 23U as well? Although that seems a touch extreme and more expense.

    Thanks for your help.

    ouimeansyes
    You can use a program called autohotkey to bind those keys to a key or key combination.

    For example you could set it to tab+3.

    Also, welcome to geekhack :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ouimeansyes on Thu, 22 August 2013, 14:47:29
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 22 August 2013, 14:31:01
    You can use a program called autohotkey to bind those keys to a key or key combination.

    For example you could set it to tab+3.

    Also, welcome to geekhack :)

    Thanks for that. I never really thought about setting up some hotkeys. Certainly cheaper than a separate Realforce numpad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:21:48
    So, now that I decided that I want springs, where do I get them?  All I can find is Originative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:22:53
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:21:48
    So, now that I decided that I want springs, where do I get them?  All I can find is Originative.

    It's really down to that and GBs. Also I also second 62g springs for Clears.

    Quote from: ouimeansyes on Thu, 22 August 2013, 14:29:29
    Hi all,

    ouimeansyes

    Welcome to GH!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:24:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:22:53
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:21:48
    So, now that I decided that I want springs, where do I get them?  All I can find is Originative.

    It's really down to that and GBs. Also I also second 62g springs for Clears.

    I'm still a bigger proponent of 65g and 67g springs, but to each their own.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:29:01
    I'd just go ahead and buy both 65g and 62g springs then you can decide on your own.  I like both personally.  Not really sure which one I favor more.  I had 65g in until last night when I desoldered them all to lube with the krytox I got from mkawa and switched to 62g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:30:40
    Quote from: Xenderwind on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:29:01
    I'd just go ahead and buy both 65g and 62g springs then you can decide on your own.  I like both personally.  Not really sure which one I favor more.  I had 65g in until last night when I desoldered them all to lube with the krytox I got from mkawa and switched to 62g.

    The 62g had just a little too much hang on the rebound for me.  The 65g gets rid of that and the 67g just feels good to me.  It's all personal preference though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: findingthelimit on Thu, 22 August 2013, 18:29:37
    Does anyone know what profile the wasdkeyboard keycaps are? I'm looking at signature plastics' page for reference:

    http://keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php

    I have parts of the raindrop set and lily set, and they are both lower profile than the wasdkeyboard's sets. this doesn't bother me too much, but i prefer the higher profile'd ones. I think the lily set is DCS, so does that mean the wasdkeyboard's caps are KT? they are the only "high profile" caps that aren't spherical.

    thanks :]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 22 August 2013, 18:30:44
    OEM profile. They're taller than SPs DCS profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 22 August 2013, 20:54:23
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:30:40
    Quote from: Xenderwind on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:29:01
    I'd just go ahead and buy both 65g and 62g springs then you can decide on your own.  I like both personally.  Not really sure which one I favor more.  I had 65g in until last night when I desoldered them all to lube with the krytox I got from mkawa and switched to 62g.

    The 62g had just a little too much hang on the rebound for me.  The 65g gets rid of that and the 67g just feels good to me.  It's all personal preference though.

    I agree, 62g felt just a bit sticky.



    On a different topic, how do you guys usually ship a full size keyboard? so far I've been using the long rectangle ReadyPost boxes that you can get at the USPS store but I want to see if there's a more efficient way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:00:21
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 22 August 2013, 20:54:23
    how do you guys usually ship a full size keyboard? so far I've been using the long rectangle ReadyPost boxes that you can get at the USPS store but I want to see if there's a more efficient way.

    USPS Game Board Box. I've had boards shipped to me in made up boxes (I.E they cut their box up and fit it around the keyboard), or huge boxes but that USPS box worked the best for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:01:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:00:21
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 22 August 2013, 20:54:23
    how do you guys usually ship a full size keyboard? so far I've been using the long rectangle ReadyPost boxes that you can get at the USPS store but I want to see if there's a more efficient way.

    USPS Game Board Box. I've had boards shipped to me in made up boxes (I.E they cut their box up and fit it around the keyboard), or huge boxes but that USPS box worked the best for me.

    Haven't tried that one, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Game Theory on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:02:25
    You may have to order them
    https://store.usps.com/store/browse/productDetailSingleSku.jsp?productId=P_GB_FRB&categoryId=subcatMSS_FlatRate
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:09:09
    Quote from: Game Theory on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:02:25
    You may have to order them
    https://store.usps.com/store/browse/productDetailSingleSku.jsp?productId=P_GB_FRB&categoryId=subcatMSS_FlatRate

    "Bought" some (they were free!), thanks!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:25:39
    What kind of caps are on the Dell's AT101W?  Doesn't seem like pad printed as I can't feel the stickers on them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:28:38
    Quote from: elton5354 on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:25:39
    What kind of caps are on the Dell's AT101W?  Doesn't seem like pad printed as I can't feel the stickers on them.

    Pad-printed, or they should be.  Edit:  Actually, supposedly lasered according to the DT wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Dell_AT101).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:33:28
    Quote from: elton5354 on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:25:39
    What kind of caps are on the Dell's AT101W?  Doesn't seem like pad printed as I can't feel the stickers on them.

    I believe it's dye-sub
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Fri, 23 August 2013, 07:51:44
    do all QFR w/ red switches have red plates? even the stealth versions?

    does QFR work on a mac without installing additional software?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 07:57:29
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:52:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 20:46:32
    If I got my hands on a Filco TKL plate. Can I make cutouts in the corners like the custom plates so that I can open switch tops? That's how the custom plates work right? There's just extra circular cutouts in the corners of the switch holes?
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 22:04:08
    Cool. I'm going to buy a cheapo Dremel and see how it goes then.

    I'm going to save you the trouble and time by saying don't bother trying.

    All stock mass-produced plates are steel, not softer aluminum. Have you tried to dremel out steel before? Each switch hole requires you to dremel out 4 slots, so that's 348 slots you'll have to shave out.

    Then cut me a plate man! :P Seriously though, I haven't dremeled steel.

    Quote from: phx on Fri, 23 August 2013, 07:51:44
    1) do all QFR w/ red switches have red plates? even the stealth versions?

    2) does QFR work on a mac without installing additional software?

    1) Think it's just the Stealth and the newer unbranded QFRs that have the plate color match the switch. I have an older branded QFR which has just a black plate.

    2) I think so but the command key will probably not work. You'll have to use the Mac equivalent of AutoHotKey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:00:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 07:57:29
    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 22 August 2013, 10:52:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 20:46:32
    If I got my hands on a Filco TKL plate. Can I make cutouts in the corners like the custom plates so that I can open switch tops? That's how the custom plates work right? There's just extra circular cutouts in the corners of the switch holes?
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 August 2013, 22:04:08
    Cool. I'm going to buy a cheapo Dremel and see how it goes then.

    I'm going to save you the trouble and time by saying don't bother trying.

    All stock mass-produced plates are steel, not softer aluminum. Have you tried to dremel out steel before? Each switch hole requires you to dremel out 4 slots, so that's 348 slots you'll have to shave out.

    Then cut me a plate man! :P Seriously though, I haven't dremeled steel.

    Quote from: phx on Fri, 23 August 2013, 07:51:44
    1) do all QFR w/ red switches have red plates? even the stealth versions?

    2) does QFR work on a mac without installing additional software?

    1) Think it's just the Stealth and the newer unbranded QFRs that have the plate color match the switch. I have an older branded QFR which has just a black plate.

    2) I think so but the command key will probably not work. You'll have to use the Mac equivalent of AutoHotKey.

    Steel cuts just fine with a dremel.  just get the reinforced cut off wheels.  Make sure they are not the heavy duty.  They just get used up very quick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:00:58
    yeah I dont need the command/apple keys to work, just the letters and stuff.
    was thinking of giving a QFR to a not so techy mac user, so if it's plug and play compatible with mac it would be great
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:16:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 07:57:29
    Then cut me a plate man! :P Seriously though, I haven't dremeled steel.

    You need some type of plate, bro? Y U NO ASK?!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:19:53
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:16:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 07:57:29
    Then cut me a plate man! :P Seriously though, I haven't dremeled steel.

    You need some type of plate, bro? Y U NO ASK?!

    Hm? I just wanted one as a lube station so I can lube Black switches. Not like to use in a keyboard or anything.

    Quote from: phx on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:00:58
    yeah I dont need the command/apple keys to work, just the letters and stuff.
    was thinking of giving a QFR to a not so techy mac user, so if it's plug and play compatible with mac it would be great

    Yeah it'll work if you don't care about the command and apple key stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:24:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:19:53
    Hm? I just wanted one as a lube station so I can lube Black switches. Not like to use in a keyboard or anything.

    Let's just get some 'real' lube stations!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:34:27
    What name key particulary(TAB,SHIFT,CTRL,ALT,CAPS) which are the most widely used and sequence?
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4.

    Thanks All ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:36:18
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:34:27
    What name key particulary(TAB,SHIFT,CTRL,ALT,CAPS) which are the most widely used and sequence?
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4.

    Thanks All ;D

    Depends on the person and what they do with their computer/keyboards? Not a very simple question since it will vary per person.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:44:10
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:24:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:19:53
    Hm? I just wanted one as a lube station so I can lube Black switches. Not like to use in a keyboard or anything.

    Let's just get some 'real' lube stations!!


    Like this?

    (http://i.imgur.com/aiEOtkv.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:45:54
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:44:10
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:24:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:19:53
    Hm? I just wanted one as a lube station so I can lube Black switches. Not like to use in a keyboard or anything.

    Let's just get some 'real' lube stations!!


    Like this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/aiEOtkv.jpg)


    now your just showing off......

    BUT.....if something like that were to 'accidentally' find it's way in the box with my phantom I won't tell anybody ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 23 August 2013, 09:34:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:36:18
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:34:27
    What name key particulary(TAB,SHIFT,CTRL,ALT,CAPS) which are the most widely used and sequence?
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4.

    Thanks All ;D

    Depends on the person and what they do with their computer/keyboards? Not a very simple question since it will vary per person.
    Yes also true :D
    I just know
    CTRL usually often for Programmer
    SHIFT usually often for Typist

    but This,i don't know
    ALT?
    TAB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 09:37:23
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 23 August 2013, 09:34:34
    Yes also true :D
    I just know
    CTRL usually often for Programmer
    SHIFT usually often for Typist

    but This,i don't know
    ALT?
    TAB?

    Again, it depends on the person and what programs they use...if you're using Excel a lot maybe you Tab a lot versus someone who just plays video games.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:05:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 09:37:23
    Again, it depends on the person and what programs they use...if you're using Excel a lot maybe you Tab a lot versus someone who just plays video games.
    Thanks, I already understand right now :D :thumb:
    I just found out, if TAB usually be used excel :rolleyes:
    how to ALT usually for?

    Thanks Again
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:09:12
    I just use mine for media macro keys if the keyboard has it and other hotkey. Oh and alt-tabbing through windows.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:13:34
    GH keyboard experts, where can I get MX white switches? If none is available on the market, is it possible to order a box of white switches directly from Cherry? Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:14:39
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:13:34
    1) Where can I get MX white switches?

    2) If none is available on the market, is it possible to order a box of white switches directly from Cherry?

    1) Only sources are GBs like 7bit or harvesting from a board with MX whites
    2) No. They have a very very very high MOQ.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:18:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:14:39
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:13:34
    1) Where can I get MX white switches?

    2) If none is available on the market, is it possible to order a box of white switches directly from Cherry?

    1) Only sources are GBs like 7bit or harvesting from a board with MX whites
    2) No. They have a very very very high MOQ.

    That's too bad. :'(

    I should have bought a KBT with white switches from mechanicalkeyboards.com several days ago. They are all gone now. White switches are the cure to my keyboard fever...

    Thanks anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:28:00
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:18:30
    White switches are the cure to my keyboard fever...

    Doubtful. There is no known cure for keyboard fever. The closest thing to a remedy is to cancel your internet, move to a small tropical island, buy a bicycle and ride it all day, or similar.

    Once you use MX switches more, you will probably find that you can use any of them interchangeably, with maybe some preference, but probably very little disdain for certain of the different types.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 23 August 2013, 11:12:15
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:28:00
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:18:30
    White switches are the cure to my keyboard fever...

    Doubtful. There is no known cure for keyboard fever. The closest thing to a remedy is to cancel your internet, move to a small tropical island, buy a bicycle and ride it all day, or similar.

    Once you use MX switches more, you will probably find that you can use any of them interchangeably, with maybe some preference, but probably very little disdain for certain of the different types.

    Of course, the white switch alone is not the cure. I want a sexy looking metal tenkeyless keyboard with full LED support to end my keyboard fever. White switch is my choice for switch because I want the feel of blue switch and the clean white color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 24 August 2013, 03:13:04
    I want this link but broken,what any new link?
    http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Design+your+own+Teensy+keyboard+in+KiCAD+how-to+guide (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Design+your+own+Teensy+keyboard+in+KiCAD+how-to+guide)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 24 August 2013, 03:40:22
    Quote from: phx on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:00:58
    yeah I dont need the command/apple keys to work, just the letters and stuff.
    was thinking of giving a QFR to a not so techy mac user, so if it's plug and play compatible with mac it would be great

    Yes QFR works fine on a Mac - I used one for a long time with no worries.

    You can use System Preferences to swap Alt and Win around - works like Mac.

    Also the function keys do Expose and media functions too :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 August 2013, 08:02:17
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 24 August 2013, 03:13:04
    I want this link but broken,what any new link?
    http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Design+your+own+Teensy+keyboard+in+KiCAD+how-to+guide (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Design+your+own+Teensy+keyboard+in+KiCAD+how-to+guide)

    Ok I think you're looking for this link here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/KiCAD_keyboard_PCB_design_guide).

    Can you please try searching for it yourself next time? I know it's a little daunting to find all this information but I literally don't know what you want since I can't read your mind. And I literally just typed the title in the URL into Google. I don't want to discourage questions but I'm also not here to Google search.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 24 August 2013, 08:25:05
    Thanks CPT,
    I'm just disappointed and found that a lot of broken links GH (not can opened) especially old thread
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 August 2013, 08:25:53
    The archived links are all broken due to rootworm wiping them out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:10:27
    GH experts, another noob question. What would be the most common and appropiate shipping method if I wanna ship a keyboard within US? I was trying to sell my keyboard and this is my first time I ever do this. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:12:41
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:10:27
    What would be the most common and appropiate shipping method if I wanna ship a keyboard within US? I was trying to sell my keyboard and this is my first time I ever do this. Thanks!

    This whole thread is to help out. No need to be ashamed with noob questions ^__^

    If you're within the USA, I recommend USPS Flat Rate Game Board boxes. Cost to ship it is $16.85. Your USPS branch should have it but if it doesn't you can order packs on the USPS website and they'll deliver to you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 24 August 2013, 14:34:24
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 August 2013, 08:44:10
    Like this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/aiEOtkv.jpg)


    x_____x gimmie gimmie
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 24 August 2013, 15:03:04
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:10:27
    GH experts, another noob question. What would be the most common and appropiate shipping method if I wanna ship a keyboard within US? I was trying to sell my keyboard and this is my first time I ever do this. Thanks!
    I prefer to ship via a "normal" box by priority mail in the US. I find it saves some money over the game board flat rate box (for most weights), and I get boxes and cardboard from work. Oftentimes, I'll custom make up a box if I dont' have one the right size.

    Last time I mailed something, priority was $0.03 more expensive than first class and included more features.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 August 2013, 23:44:59
    Just did a major overhaul of the OP. Now it has anchors and a table of contents with the FAQ section. I think this will be way easier to navigate. Hopefully this makes the OP less daunting to read through and refer to. If you guys could let me know what you think, that would be great. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 24 August 2013, 23:48:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 August 2013, 23:44:59
    Just did a major overhaul of the OP. Now it has anchors and a table of contents with the FAQ section. I think this will be way easier to navigate. Hopefully this makes the OP less daunting to read through and refer to. If you guys could let me know what you think, that would be great. Thanks!

    Holy ****, that looks really nice!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 24 August 2013, 23:54:58
    whoah... you just slightly got a bit older.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 25 August 2013, 00:42:33
    Looks fantastic!

    Q: Can CPTBadAss make this thread any more awesome?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 25 August 2013, 04:33:46
    What are the pros and coins of hard wired matrix vs PCB for custom layouts with the exception of the price of a one off PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 25 August 2013, 06:54:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 August 2013, 23:44:59
    Just did a major overhaul of the OP. Now it has anchors and a table of contents with the FAQ section. I think this will be way easier to navigate. Hopefully this makes the OP less daunting to read through and refer to. If you guys could let me know what you think, that would be great. Thanks!

    Not that it's a big deal but trying to use the links in tapatalk it wants to open in a web browser instead of jumping to the info.

    Thanks for all the effort in keeping this thread going!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 August 2013, 08:54:01
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 25 August 2013, 04:33:46
    What are the pros and coins of hard wired matrix vs PCB for custom layouts with the exception of the price of a one off PCB?

    Pros (of a hardwire matrix): Custom layout, more flexibility with the case and controller sizing/spacing, more customization in terms of LEDs and custom layouts, cheaper in terms of money, no need to learn KiCad

    Cons: Much much much more work to layout and solder, hard to rework/tinker with later, probably requires a custom case unless you design for a currently available case, expensive in terms of time


    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 25 August 2013, 06:54:19
    Not that it's a big deal but trying to use the links in tapatalk it wants to open in a web browser instead of jumping to the info.

    I'm not how sure anchors are handled in Tapatalk but unfortunately, that's out of my control. I don't think I can change the back end to fix that issue. If it's a big enough issue, I can talk to rkinze.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 25 August 2013, 15:10:12
    Awesome thanks for the info CPT.  And the OP looks great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: thebeargentile on Sun, 25 August 2013, 16:05:03
    I'm looking to edit the function layer on my KMAC Happy, but all the KMAC keybinding programs I have found only have templates for the regular KMAC and the Mini, not the Happy.  Can I just change, say, the KMAC Mini template to match the row/column layout of the Happy, or do I need to find the exact Happy template file?  Do all these boards use the same controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 25 August 2013, 18:38:30
    Quote from: thebeargentile on Sun, 25 August 2013, 16:05:03
    I'm looking to edit the function layer on my KMAC Happy, but all the KMAC keybinding programs I have found only have templates for the regular KMAC and the Mini, not the Happy.  Can I just change, say, the KMAC Mini template to match the row/column layout of the Happy, or do I need to find the exact Happy template file?  Do all these boards use the same controller?

    Wish I could help you out there but I'm not sure on that one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Sun, 25 August 2013, 21:27:52
    Quote from: thebeargentile on Sun, 25 August 2013, 16:05:03
    I'm looking to edit the function layer on my KMAC Happy, but all the KMAC keybinding programs I have found only have templates for the regular KMAC and the Mini, not the Happy.  Can I just change, say, the KMAC Mini template to match the row/column layout of the Happy, or do I need to find the exact Happy template file?  Do all these boards use the same controller?

    I think you should message GON about that, I believe it is somewhere on kbdmania but I don't have access to it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 26 August 2013, 04:33:54
    What is good or suitable cable to connect the two halves (left/right) for DIY Split keyboard keyboard handwired?
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 26 August 2013, 05:30:26
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 26 August 2013, 04:33:54
    What is good or suitable cable to connect the two halves (left/right) DIY Split keyboard keyboard handwired?
    Thanks

    That depends on your design. If you need for example 3 wires to connect the halves you could use a normal 3,5mm stereo connector. The ErgoDox uses the extended 3,5mm plug with the 4-pole connector for example. If you need more poles, you could use a Cat 5 cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 26 August 2013, 06:06:00
    Thanks, I want the detachable cable,
    what name connector/ Extensions for cat 5?
    or any other cable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 26 August 2013, 06:32:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 26 August 2013, 06:06:00
    Thanks, I want the detachable cable,
    what name connector/ Extensions for cat 5?
    or any other cable?

    As I said, it depends on how you do the matrix etc. how many poles you need. Do you have a plan how to wire the keyboard yet? If so, can you post it?
    Cat 5 is the name of the connector, here (http://www.ebay.de/itm/PCB-Board-Mount-CAT5-5e-LAN-Data-8P8C-RJ45-Female-Connector-Jacks-5-Pcs-/330991848043?pt=AU_CablesConnectors&hash=item4d10a6ca6b) you can get some female connectors, Cat 5 cables you can get in pretty much every electronics store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 26 August 2013, 07:13:34
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 26 August 2013, 06:32:01
    As I said, it depends on how you do the matrix etc. how many poles you need. Do you have a plan how to wire the keyboard yet? If so, can you post it?
    Cat 5 is the name of the connector, here (http://www.ebay.de/itm/PCB-Board-Mount-CAT5-5e-LAN-Data-8P8C-RJ45-Female-Connector-Jacks-5-Pcs-/330991848043?pt=AU_CablesConnectors&hash=item4d10a6ca6b) you can get some female connectors, Cat 5 cables you can get in pretty much every electronics store.
    it seems 12 cable (6 right/6 left hand)
    how to teensy,whether I need two?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 26 August 2013, 08:31:21
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 26 August 2013, 07:13:34
    it seems 12 cable (6 right/6 left hand)
    how to teensy,whether I need two?

    So you just need six cables to connect the two? Then Cat 5 should be good. I would recommend looking into how the ErgoDox works, it's completly open source afaik.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 26 August 2013, 08:48:08
    this should be in a new thread for modding the ergodox to use a cat5 cable instead of the one provided with the kit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 09:21:52
    D: Anchors are a thing here? This thread just gets better and better.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 26 August 2013, 10:00:15
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 26 August 2013, 08:48:08
    this should be in a new thread for modding the ergodox to use a cat5 cable instead of the one provided with the kit.

    He wants to build his own keyboard using hardwiring, so his question is not about modding the ErgoDox. But yes, yasua you should make a new thread in the "Making stuff together" section if you need help with that project.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:16:10
    Does anyone know if it's possible to get the media controls of a Mac keyboard to work in Windows? I found this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjjD8hY4znY), but I'm not sure how I feel about installing random keyboard drivers from a youtube video.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:24:33
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:16:10
    Does anyone know if it's possible to get the media controls of a Mac keyboard to work in Windows? I found this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjjD8hY4znY), but I'm not sure how I feel about installing random keyboard drivers from a youtube video.

    do you mind using autohotkey?

    also what mac keyboard is it exactly?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:27:28
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:24:33
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:16:10
    Does anyone know if it's possible to get the media controls of a Mac keyboard to work in Windows? I found this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjjD8hY4znY), but I'm not sure how I feel about installing random keyboard drivers from a youtube video.

    do you mind using autohotkey?

    also what mac keyboard is it exactly?

    I don't at all. It's an HHKB. The problem is they don't seem to return anything for AHK to pick up. The Eject key returns F20, but Vol_Up, Vol_Dn, and Mute don't seem to return anything. Also, aquakey picks up some signal from Eject as well, but nothing from the others.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:30:03
    the og hhkb or the pro or pro 2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:34:44
    Pro 2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:34:54
    basically hasu is your man for the hhkb/pro/pro2/etc
    check this thread out.
    he should be able to answer any questions you might have about what your trying to achieve.
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.0

    https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/master/keyboard/hhkb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 26 August 2013, 17:35:44
    For users that do not want to mod there keyboard and might be looking for a easy way to remap keys in windows...
    http://www.randyrants.com/2006/07/sharpkeys_211.html

    to finish the info about the hhkb.
    from what I have been reading the only special buttons on the mac hhkb that can be remapped in windows is  eject and it equals F20.

    sharpkeys can help you change F20 to whatever you want in windows if you want to do just that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 26 August 2013, 17:45:40
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:27:28
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:24:33
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:16:10
    Does anyone know if it's possible to get the media controls of a Mac keyboard to work in Windows? I found this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjjD8hY4znY), but I'm not sure how I feel about installing random keyboard drivers from a youtube video.

    do you mind using autohotkey?

    also what mac keyboard is it exactly?

    I don't at all. It's an HHKB. The problem is they don't seem to return anything for AHK to pick up. The Eject key returns F20, but Vol_Up, Vol_Dn, and Mute don't seem to return anything. Also, aquakey picks up some signal from Eject as well, but nothing from the others.
    [/quote
    The media features (vol-up, dn, mute) are Mac only features. You will have to use Autohotkey or other keyboard utility.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 19:37:51
    Quote from: MJ45 on Mon, 26 August 2013, 17:45:40
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:27:28
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:24:33
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:16:10
    Does anyone know if it's possible to get the media controls of a Mac keyboard to work in Windows? I found this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjjD8hY4znY), but I'm not sure how I feel about installing random keyboard drivers from a youtube video.

    do you mind using autohotkey?

    also what mac keyboard is it exactly?

    I don't at all. It's an HHKB. The problem is they don't seem to return anything for AHK to pick up. The Eject key returns F20, but Vol_Up, Vol_Dn, and Mute don't seem to return anything. Also, aquakey picks up some signal from Eject as well, but nothing from the others.
    The media features (vol-up, dn, mute) are Mac only features. You will have to use Autohotkey or other keyboard utility.

    I know that. But I was just wondering, what with the amount of people who use Windows and the ingenuity of some of those people, that someone might have come up with a way to build a hook into Windows to receive those signals. It's no big deal to me if it's impossible. I won't go out of my way to use them. I just figured if they were there, why not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 August 2013, 19:56:31
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 09:21:52
    D: Anchors are a thing here? This thread just gets better and better.

    Yeah they're a thing. I've been using them for a little while in my reviews but I think this has been my best usage of it so far. You know how they work right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 20:04:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 August 2013, 19:56:31
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 26 August 2013, 09:21:52
    D: Anchors are a thing here? This thread just gets better and better.

    Yeah they're a thing. I've been using them for a little while in my reviews but I think this has been my best implication of it so far. You know how they work right?

    Of course, son.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 10:51:44
    Can someone tell me the size of a KMAC Happy please?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:30:54
    Quote from: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 10:51:44
    Can someone tell me the size of a KMAC Happy please?

    Judging from the picture that Calavera posted from KBD (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40651.0):

    (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/calaveratf/keyboards/c31ee22ef4b2a7fc5b2e71c11f050898_zpsf15e9eda.jpg)

    It looks to be the same size as my KMAC LE without the navigation/arrow cluster. I will be taking measurements from my KMAC LE then since that's what is in front of me.

    So if I measure the width from the left edge to the keyboard to the right edge where F12 is I get: 11.5 inches.

    The right bezel between the F12 to the navigation cluster isnt' the same size as the left bezel so we'll just measure the left bezel and then add that to the first measuremeant: 0.5 inches

    So total width is 12 inches. And height (from bezel below left ctrl to bezel above escape) is 5.5 inches.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:30:54
    Quote from: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 10:51:44
    Can someone tell me the size of a KMAC Happy please?

    Judging from the picture that Calavera posted from KBD (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40651.0):

    Show Image
    (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/calaveratf/keyboards/c31ee22ef4b2a7fc5b2e71c11f050898_zpsf15e9eda.jpg)


    It looks to be the same size as my KMAC LE without the navigation/arrow cluster. I will be taking measurements from my KMAC LE then since that's what is in front of me.

    So if I measure the width from the left edge to the keyboard to the right edge where F12 is I get: 11.5 inches.

    The right bezel between the F12 to the navigation cluster isnt' the same size as the left bezel so we'll just measure the left bezel and then add that to the first measuremeant: 0.5 inches

    So total width is 12 inches. And height (from bezel below left ctrl to bezel above escape) is 5.5 inches.

    Thank you so much :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:34:22
    5.5 inches is too much. I measure my HHKB and only get 4.25". I'd say that thing looks a little bit wider, but not that much more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:36:49
    What about the height? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:42:33
    My HHKB is .75" front, 1.25" back. I only offer these numbers being that it seems they were looking to emulate it in some regard. I know you want measurements of the Happy in particular, so someone else would have to measure that for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:44:53
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:42:33
    My HHKB is .75" front, 1.25" back. I only offer these numbers being that it seems they were looking to emulate it in some regard. I know you want measurements of the Happy in particular, so someone else would have to measure that for you.

    I think it is a fine estimate :)

    Thanks moose :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:48:01
    Quote from: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:36:49
    What about the height? :)

    I'm going to call this thickness because I already used the word height. The thickness of my KMAC LE is 13/16 inch.

    Like I said before, I'm *assuming* that the KMAC LE and Happy are similar based on the picture and when I tried the Happy in real life at Chicago. As always, I might be wrong.

    Quote from: thebeargentile on Sun, 25 August 2013, 16:05:03
    I'm looking to edit the function layer on my KMAC Happy, but all the KMAC keybinding programs I have found only have templates for the regular KMAC and the Mini, not the Happy.  Can I just change, say, the KMAC Mini template to match the row/column layout of the Happy, or do I need to find the exact Happy template file?  Do all these boards use the same controller?

    You can reprogram the KMAC Happy using the KMAC2 .exe. I confirmed this with jcrouse.

    The controller on the KMAC is a ATMega16, as shown here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39299.msg767700#msg767700).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:51:59
    Don't worry, for what I want I don't need too much precision :)

    Thanks for the replies, as usual!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 27 August 2013, 12:06:46
    What good plate for handwired, i want make plate own any suggestion for plate but easy for making holes?
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 12:06:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:48:01
    Quote from: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:36:49
    What about the height? :)

    I'm going to call this thickness because I already used the word height. The thickness of my KMAC LE is 13/16 inch.

    Like I said before, I'm *assuming* that the KMAC LE and Happy are similar based on the picture and when I tried the Happy in real life at Chicago. As always, I might be wrong.

    Quote from: thebeargentile on Sun, 25 August 2013, 16:05:03
    I'm looking to edit the function layer on my KMAC Happy, but all the KMAC keybinding programs I have found only have templates for the regular KMAC and the Mini, not the Happy.  Can I just change, say, the KMAC Mini template to match the row/column layout of the Happy, or do I need to find the exact Happy template file?  Do all these boards use the same controller?

    You can reprogram the KMAC Happy using the KMAC2 .exe. I confirmed this with jcrouse.

    The controller on the KMAC is a ATMega16, as shown here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39299.msg767700#msg767700).

    KMAC2 .exe is supposed to support all Kmac devices even the kmac tenkey pad
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 27 August 2013, 22:32:37
    Snip
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 28 August 2013, 09:40:14
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 27 August 2013, 12:06:46
    What good plate for handwired, i want make plate own any suggestion for plate but easy for making holes?
    Thanks

    Search for somebody who does laser cutting (theres also some people in the professional services directory (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0)), aluminium is a common material for plates and they can get you one made.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GeeGee on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:28:28
    Where can you get an LZSE?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:29:22
    Quote from: GeeGee on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:28:28
    Where can you get an LZSE?
    From people who own one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GeeGee on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:31:25
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:29:22
    Quote from: GeeGee on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:28:28
    Where can you get an LZSE?
    From people who own one.
    Are you serious :O
    I so didn't think of that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:36:25
    Yes, he is serious. They were a limited run. Only those who have one and are willing to let it go will have what you seek.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GeeGee on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:41:42
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:36:25
    Yes, he is serious. They were a limited run. Only those who have one and are willing to let it go will have what you seek.
    Sarcasm.
    I knew that. What I wanted to know is if anyone is 'know' for selling them or willing to let it go.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 28 August 2013, 15:04:45
    Your best bet in that case is to start a WTB thread in the Classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GeeGee on Wed, 28 August 2013, 15:14:18
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 28 August 2013, 15:04:45
    Your best bet in that case is to start a WTB thread in the Classifieds.
    Yeah I will do that in a couple of days.
    Thanks for your help guys :)!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:07:03
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.
    Well there's already a constantly running switch GB on deskthority, not sure about the MOQ though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:07:47
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:07:03
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.
    Well there's already a constantly running switch GB on deskthority, not sure about the MOQ though.

    pretty sure it's 100k+
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:37:45
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.

    5000
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:40:30
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.

    It depends on your supplier. There one supplier that has a MOQ of 800, for 24.51¢ United States cents each.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:59:17
    here is a example at mouser

    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cherry-Electrical/MX1A-11NW/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsqIr59i2oRck%252brJF20sIm2GQvQAXuvA88%3d

    moq is 1 but the more you order the cheaper it gets... i.e. groupbuy
            1:   $0.98   
        50:   $0.75   
        100:   $0.641   
        250:   $0.497   
        500:   $0.468

    the confusion based on the very high number is because of this page.
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear

    "On request, Cherry has stated that they would actually produce Ergo Clears in a slider-colour of choice, provided that they get an order of at least 750,000 switches. Among keyboard enthusiasts there is a controversy, whether such switches should be called "beiges", "pinks" or "violets"."


    edit: the above prices change based on switch color and mount type.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:00:19
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:40:30
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.

    It depends on your supplier. There one supplier that has a MOQ of 800, for 24.51¢ United States cents each.

    For which switch type and what kind of lead time? $0.24/switch is a steal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:01:17
    Or is he saying $24.51 each :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:12:54
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:00:19
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:40:30
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.

    It depends on your supplier. There one supplier that has a MOQ of 800, for 24.51¢ United States cents each.

    For which switch type and what kind of lead time? $0.24/switch is a steal.

    Cherry MX Blacks and Blues, plate mounted. 800 MOQ, $0.2541 USD per switch.

    It drops down to about $0.15 each when you order 100,000. These prices are still not directly from Cherry. I believe the normal MOQ is 8000.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:31:19
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:12:54
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:00:19
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:40:30
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.

    It depends on your supplier. There one supplier that has a MOQ of 800, for 24.51¢ United States cents each.

    For which switch type and what kind of lead time? $0.24/switch is a steal.

    Cherry MX Blacks and Blues, plate mounted. 800 MOQ, $0.2541 USD per switch.

    It drops down to about $0.15 each when you order 100,000. These prices are still not directly from Cherry. I believe the normal MOQ is 8000.

    again the question is where are you seeing this price?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:42:27
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:31:19
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:12:54
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:00:19
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:40:30
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.

    It depends on your supplier. There one supplier that has a MOQ of 800, for 24.51¢ United States cents each.

    For which switch type and what kind of lead time? $0.24/switch is a steal.

    Cherry MX Blacks and Blues, plate mounted. 800 MOQ, $0.2541 USD per switch.

    It drops down to about $0.15 each when you order 100,000. These prices are still not directly from Cherry. I believe the normal MOQ is 8000.

    again the question is where are you seeing this price?

    From a catalog that I will not post. Look around and you should be able to find a similar or the same price. There are other switches available, but it doesn't seem like the MOQ is as low as 800.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:15:31
    $0.49 is the cheapest before shipping @ 1000 ordered for plate mounted mx blacks.
    http://www.eciaauthorized.com/search?pn=MX1A-11NN

    $0.46 is the cheapest before shipping @ 1000 ordered for pcb mounted mx blacks.
    http://www.eciaauthorized.com/search?pn=MX1A-11NW

    If you can get prices that low then please arrange a groupbuy to compete with 7bit

    7bit wants .65 euro each
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:25:41
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:12:54

    Cherry MX Blacks and Blues, plate mounted. 800 MOQ, $0.2541 USD per switch.

    It drops down to about $0.15 each when you order 100,000. These prices are still not directly from Cherry. I believe the normal MOQ is 8000.

    So you're saying Cherry's MOQ is 8,000? Because that's not so bad. I can see why they would want upwards of a million to make a new stem/spring mix, but the demand is clearly there so they'll probably make it on their own anyways, eventually.

    I am very very interested now that I'm actually starting to desolder. I have a mighty need for clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:38:02
    Okay, another question. Sorry for spamming this thread.

    Mouser has clears listed here
    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cherry-Electrical/MX1A-C1NN/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMt3hSNP33T8%2fE6DQc5dkbQB7kwsFyn%2feDc%3d (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cherry-Electrical/MX1A-C1NN/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMt3hSNP33T8%2fE6DQc5dkbQB7kwsFyn%2feDc%3d)

    But is says termination type "lug" as opposed to "solder" which some of the others have listed. Is this saying they're made to be used with a wired board, as opposed to PCB? Can we still solder lug terminations? Or am I completely off base?

    Also, that page says 83 cents at 500 units but their catalog says differently. I figure we'd probably get significantly more than 500 sold in a GB anyways, so I'd ask for an updated extended pricing.

    TL:DR
    these things I linked. Those things for purchase? Or I want other things?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:43:42
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:15:31
    $0.49 is the cheapest before shipping @ 1000 ordered for plate mounted mx blacks.
    http://www.eciaauthorized.com/search?pn=MX1A-11NN

    $0.46 is the cheapest before shipping @ 1000 ordered for pcb mounted mx blacks.
    http://www.eciaauthorized.com/search?pn=MX1A-11NW

    If you can get prices that low then please arrange a groupbuy to compete with 7bit

    7bit wants .65 euro each

    You are looking at redistributors, which will cost more because they themselves want to make a profit. The redistributors get their switches from a supplier or from Cherry.

    I am also currently not interested in hosting a groupbuy or competing with 7bit because I may not have the time for it.

    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:25:41
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:12:54

    Cherry MX Blacks and Blues, plate mounted. 800 MOQ, $0.2541 USD per switch.

    It drops down to about $0.15 each when you order 100,000. These prices are still not directly from Cherry. I believe the normal MOQ is 8000.

    So you're saying Cherry's MOQ is 8,000? Because that's not so bad. I can see why they would want upwards of a million to make a new stem/spring mix, but the demand is clearly there so they'll probably make it on their own anyways, eventually.

    I am very very interested now that I'm actually starting to desolder. I have a mighty need for clears.

    I am not sure on the MOQ directly from Cherry, but I assume it's around 8000 because that's what most suppliers seem to be requesting.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:53:36
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:43:42

    I am also currently not interested in hosting a groupbuy or competing with 7bit because I may not have the time for it.


    Why even bring up pricing you have available to you? If you're unwilling to do a group buy, for certainly legitimate reasons, are you willing to share your source with a reputable community member who is willing to do a group buy? I understand you want to safeguard your source, but to the point where you're the only one who can benefit from it? It feels awkward to even bring it up, at that point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 19:03:31
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:53:36
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 18:43:42

    I am also currently not interested in hosting a groupbuy or competing with 7bit because I may not have the time for it.


    Why even bring up pricing you have available to you? If you're unwilling to do a group buy, for certainly legitimate reasons, are you willing to share your source with a reputable community member who is willing to do a group buy? I understand you want to safeguard your source, but to the point where you're the only one who can benefit from it? It feels awkward to even bring it up, at that point.

    You asked a question and I tried to answer it, while giving an example. I guess I should have stopped answering questions. The source of where I am getting these prices may not even be on the internet, but finding similar prices on the internet is not hard.

    You can contact Cherry Corp or ZF Electronics for prices or bulk suppliers if you want to get it directly from them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 28 August 2013, 19:56:15
    Is there a trick that helps when sleeving coiled cables? I'm currently sleeving a 3m coiled cable, started yesterday, I'm almost halfway done, pushing it bit by bit which is really really slow, I even got a blister on my thumb now. I'm scared of the cable losing the coil if I would stretch the cable and just pull on the paracord.

    Edit: Whites tend to sometimes vary in their clickyness. Should I remove the lube and relube them to make sure they sound/feel the same? Or would I make it even worse? (Note: I haven't receivced them yet, so I would only do this if I get some "faulty" ones)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 August 2013, 20:05:21
    FYI, total amount of clears ordered across the entire GH60 GB was about 2000. I wouldn't expect to take orders for the MOQ Cherry requires, even if it's only 4000-5000.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 20:58:43
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 August 2013, 20:05:21
    FYI, total amount of clears ordered across the entire GH60 GB was about 2000. I wouldn't expect to take orders for the MOQ Cherry requires, even if it's only 4000-5000.

    That's a good reference. Thank you.
    I figured we'd be able to pull about 200 sets, so that fits in my approximation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 28 August 2013, 21:05:59
    Ok there is a difference from getting it directly from Cherry themselves, and a distributor. 8k seems way too low, last time I checked with cherry, it was something in the 20k MOQ (don't quote me on this number, it was from memory, but I can go back to my email to check). Also, you can't even order directly from cherry unless they authorize you to be a distributor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 21:09:06
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:40:30
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.

    It depends on your supplier. There one supplier that has a MOQ of 800, for 24.51¢ United States cents each.

    I was asked specifically about cherry. I haven't seen any GBs from the source and I was interested in why that was. Someone specifically told me that Cherry MOQ is absurd, so I thought I'd ask. I can find suppliers on my own, and the prices they offer, but I couldn't find any specific info regarding Cherry. So instead of emailing them and maybe waiting a week or two, I figured I'd ask a simple question, see if anybody knew.

    That being said
    Nobody else has said anything near 25 cents at a MOQ of 800. Nobody. And I haven't found any numbers even close to that in any quanities, let alone at 800. And nobody asked how much you, personally, can get switches for. You took it upon yourself to start showing us numbers that we can't get on our own, and that you don't want to help us get access to. It just seems like a pointless thing to say under those circumstance. It just feels like you're rubbing it in our face that you can get 800 switches for the same price we can get 200.

    If you aren't going to help us get there, why even bring it up?

    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 28 August 2013, 21:05:59
    Ok there is a difference from getting it directly from Cherry themselves, and a distributor. 8k seems way too low, last time I checked with cherry, it was something in the 20k MOQ (don't quote me on this number, it was from memory, but I can go back to my email to check). Also, you can't even order directly from cherry unless they authorize you to be a distributor.

    I had figured as much. It works the same way in most business environments. They want a contract with you before they start letting you resell their stuff. I was just curious if anyone knew the number on it. Thanks, WFD.

    I would assume 20k would be their initial MOQ, and once you're a distributor, 8k is the resupply MOQ. But I'm piecing this together from what other people have been saying.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 21:48:10
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 21:09:06
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:40:30
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.

    It depends on your supplier. There one supplier that has a MOQ of 800, for 24.51¢ United States cents each.

    I was asked specifically about cherry. I haven't seen any GBs from the source and I was interested in why that was. Someone specifically told me that Cherry MOQ is absurd, so I thought I'd ask. I can find suppliers on my own, and the prices they offer, but I couldn't find any specific info regarding Cherry. So instead of emailing them and maybe waiting a week or two, I figured I'd ask a simple question, see if anybody knew.

    That being said
    Nobody else has said anything near 25 cents at a MOQ of 800. Nobody. And I haven't found any numbers even close to that in any quanities, let alone at 800. And nobody asked how much you, personally, can get switches for. You took it upon yourself to start showing us numbers that we can't get on our own, and that you don't want to help us get access to. It just seems like a pointless thing to say under those circumstance. It just feels like you're rubbing it in our face that you can get 800 switches for the same price we can get 200.

    If you aren't going to help us get there, why even bring it up?

    I'm not the only one that can get the switches for those prices. Anyone that is willing to pay enough for the MOQ can get it at those prices. I gave enough hints to find a cheaper supplier. If you don't want to bother with it, then don't. It took me a while to build up contacts for my business, do some work and look around for cheaper prices. Don't be afraid to call up someone and ask them to redirect you to another supplier.

    Let's not turn this thread into an argument about switch prices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 28 August 2013, 22:03:20
    Stepping in for CPTBadAss :

    Guys, this is no longer a 'simple question, simple answer'. Take it elsewhere, whether it be a new thread or PMs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 22:07:25
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 21:48:10
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 21:09:06
    Quote from: Topre on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:40:30
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:05:08
    What is Cherry's MOQ for switches? I keep hearing it's stupid crazy high, but how many is stupid crazy? I'd be curious enough to see if there's a demand for something like Clears or Greens to set up a GB for it, but if it's like 2 millions switches, then we can just.. not do that.

    It depends on your supplier. There one supplier that has a MOQ of 800, for 24.51¢ United States cents each.

    I was asked specifically about cherry. I haven't seen any GBs from the source and I was interested in why that was. Someone specifically told me that Cherry MOQ is absurd, so I thought I'd ask. I can find suppliers on my own, and the prices they offer, but I couldn't find any specific info regarding Cherry. So instead of emailing them and maybe waiting a week or two, I figured I'd ask a simple question, see if anybody knew.

    That being said
    Nobody else has said anything near 25 cents at a MOQ of 800. Nobody. And I haven't found any numbers even close to that in any quanities, let alone at 800. And nobody asked how much you, personally, can get switches for. You took it upon yourself to start showing us numbers that we can't get on our own, and that you don't want to help us get access to. It just seems like a pointless thing to say under those circumstance. It just feels like you're rubbing it in our face that you can get 800 switches for the same price we can get 200.

    If you aren't going to help us get there, why even bring it up?

    I'm not the only one that can get the switches for those prices. Anyone that is willing to pay enough for the MOQ can get it at those prices. I gave enough hints to find a cheaper supplier. If you don't want to bother with it, then don't. It took me a while to build up contacts for my business, do some work and look around for cheaper prices. Don't be afraid to call up someone and ask them to redirect you to another supplier.

    Let's not turn this thread into an argument about switch prices.

    You're right, but since this isn't my business, I can't invest the time to contact various suppliers. I don't have any contacts besides the ones in this community, and it's one of the reasons I love this community so much, because everyone who has joined has just made hundreds of contacts.

    I can't call anybody, unfortunately, because I have a Korean phone that doesn't dial US or EU numbers, so that's out, too. If they're not online, then I have no options on getting in contact aside from physical letters. And though it is a viable option, it's not a viable option for me, because I just don't have that kind of free time. Not anymore.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 28 August 2013, 22:10:22
    Calm and others...stop arguing about MOQ and prices in here. Want to discuss it? Port it elsewhere.

    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 28 August 2013, 22:03:20
    Stepping in for CPTBadAss :

    Guys, this is no longer a 'simple question, simple answer'. Take it elsewhere, whether it be a new thread or PMs.

    Thank you.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 28 August 2013, 19:56:15
    1) Is there a trick that helps when sleeving coiled cables?

    2) Whites tend to sometimes vary in their clickyness. Should I remove the lube and relube them to make sure they sound/feel the same? Or would I make it even worse?

    1) Maybe try PMing one of the cable makers like nubbinator, Pexon, or tjcaustin for help?

    2) I would say try removing a little lube instead of completely re-lubing the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 22:59:59
    What are the specific differences between plate and pcb mounted switches? There's some sort of tab, I guess, but my qfr has a plate, but are soldered to the board. Im assuming theyre plate mounted?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 28 August 2013, 23:04:31
    the only difference is PCB mount switches have 2 smaller tabs sticking out of the bottom of the switch next to the large center one.  PCB can me converted to Plate mount simply by clipping off the extra tabs with fingernail clippers or similar tools.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 28 August 2013, 23:06:10
    Yeah, what melvang said. This picture from jd illustrates it. The two plastic tabs are the ONLY difference. Internals are the same, both kinds are soldered to the pcb. The tabs just make it more sturdy when there's no plate.
    (http://i.imgur.com/SwrsOOT.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 23:15:52
    Okay. Thanks for the picture, that REALLY clears it up. And my assumptions were correct, which always builds the ego a bit.

    Cheers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Wed, 28 August 2013, 23:16:50
    Demik or tp4tissue
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 23:17:34
    demik for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 28 August 2013, 23:52:02
    does anyone know or would be able to measure the angle of the top of the caps on a Model M or SSK from horizontal?  I realize that the middle keys sit lower but just a straight line from the top row to the bottom row and the desk for the other side.  If they have extendable / retractable feet I would like the angle with the board at the highest position.

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 29 August 2013, 10:44:06
    Quote from: Meiosis on Wed, 28 August 2013, 23:16:50
    Demik or tp4tissue

    TP4 uses some slick emotes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: thebeargentile on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:10:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 August 2013, 11:48:01

    You can reprogram the KMAC Happy using the KMAC2 .exe. I confirmed this with jcrouse.

    The controller on the KMAC is a ATMega16, as shown here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39299.msg767700#msg767700).

    Excellent, thank you sir!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:20:09
    What's the best way to precisely cut a PCB with cheap tools?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Topre on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:28:01
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:20:09
    What's the best way to precisely cut a PCB with cheap tools?

    Saw or oscillating power tool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 August 2013, 17:28:36
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:20:09
    What's the best way to precisely cut a PCB with cheap tools?

    Cheap tools? Hacksaw and a steady hand?, Score with a knife ahead of time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Thimplum on Thu, 29 August 2013, 17:31:55
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:20:09
    What's the best way to precisely cut a PCB with cheap tools?

    Score and snap, with an x-acto knife? It may or may not be what you want, depending on the board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 29 August 2013, 18:05:31
    Who was stationed on the back wall at KeyCon2013 that had all the BS boards including the 60% prototype?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 29 August 2013, 18:30:11
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 29 August 2013, 18:05:31
    Who was stationed on the back wall at KeyCon2013 that had all the BS boards including the 60% prototype?

    wcass (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10410)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:34:10
    Will buckling spring caps fit any direction like Cherry caps or are they like alps in that it would be either right side up/up side down?

    If they are bidirectional only would it be feasible to make a new custom switch plate for said switches?

    I guess where I am going with this line of questions is this.  After wcass irons out the diffulties with the membrane on his 60% BS board would the switch plate be the only real hurdle from progressing to a BS version of an ErgoDox?

    If this is a blasphemy of the most serious notion please inform me and the thoughts shall be stricken from my memory.

    Melvang

    Edit:  Who would I need to talk to about using the Geekhack logo for a personal project?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 30 August 2013, 08:11:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:34:10
    Will buckling spring caps fit any direction like Cherry caps or are they like alps in that it would be either right side up/up side down?
    Both the upper and the lower part of the keycaps only fit in their original direction. You can put them upside down but then the key won't activate anymore, this is because the lower part of the keycaps is part of the mechanism.

    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:34:10
    If they are bidirectional only would it be feasible to make a new custom switch plate for said switches?
    Look up how a plate for BS (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:IBM_Model_M_-_stabilisers.jpg) looks, it is very hard to replicate those plates afaik. MX has switch modules, BS not, if that makes any sense.

    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:34:10
    I guess where I am going with this line of questions is this.  After wcass irons out the diffulties with the membrane on his 60% BS board would the switch plate be the only real hurdle from progressing to a BS version of an ErgoDox?
    I guess if one could make a suitable plate and membrane, you could harvest the rest from Model Ms.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 30 August 2013, 10:26:56
    Are there BS non skull CCs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 30 August 2013, 10:43:05
    Does anyone happen to have a 3ds max or autocad file with a 3d model of a cherry profile esc key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 August 2013, 11:10:46
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 30 August 2013, 10:26:56
    Are there BS non skull CCs?

    No. I've never seen BS non-skull CCs.

    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:34:10
    1) Will buckling spring caps fit any direction like Cherry caps or are they like alps in that it would be either right side up/up side down?

    2) If they are bidirectional only would it be feasible to make a new custom switch plate for said switches?

    3) I guess where I am going with this line of questions is this.  After wcass irons out the diffulties with the membrane on his 60% BS board would the switch plate be the only real hurdle from progressing to a BS version of an ErgoDox?

    4) Who would I need to talk to about using the Geekhack logo for a personal project?

    1) They're like you described with the Alps caps.

    2) Wcass did it. His XT was modded to an ANSI layout. That board had a custom acrylic plate. He also had a matrix layout BS "tester" which allowed you to see the switch in action but wasn't angled at all.

    3) Like BlueBar said, you'd need to come up with your own plate and mat.

    4) As a courtesy, you should ask mkawa and Krogenar (creator of the vector files) if it's ok to use the logo. However, I have spoken with mkawa who has told me that you don't actually need to clear using the logo with him; but admins/mods/mkawa appreciate it when you do. I strongly advise that you at least mention it to them just as a professional and polite thing to do...especially if you are going to turn a profit from the item.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 30 August 2013, 17:22:24
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 30 August 2013, 10:26:56
    Are there BS non skull CCs?

    AFAIK no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kira0172 on Sat, 31 August 2013, 07:06:08
    Is there a kboard wallpaper thread?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 31 August 2013, 13:47:29
    Quote from: Kira0172 on Sat, 31 August 2013, 07:06:08
    Is there a kboard wallpaper thread?

    GeekHack Wallpaper (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46074.0)

    Post your desktop thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33530.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 31 August 2013, 16:50:14
    It seems a lot of you are from the US and other countries around the world. I have found a lot of people interested in my items for sale that aren't from Canada and shipping seems to be outrageous.

    If anyone has shipped from Canada before, I would like some advice on the best, and cheapest methods to ship items. Thanks in advance :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 03:31:55
    How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

    But in all seriousness, how good would an ErgoDox be for a first mechanical keyboard, and on a scale of 1-10 (with 1 being breathing, 10 being flying and 5 being the average), how hard would it be to build for someone who has little experience with soldering and board building.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 01 September 2013, 13:27:15
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 03:31:55
    How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

    But in all seriousness, how good would an ErgoDox be for a first mechanical keyboard, and on a scale of 1-10 (with 1 being breathing, 10 being flying and 5 being the average), how hard would it be to build for someone who has little experience with soldering and board building.

    for someone that has little no experience it can be difficult. just remember the diodes have to be soldered in one direction.
    first keyboard? 4. you have to dedicate to learning the layout and programming it to be custom suited to match your layout style/preference.
    It might not be a good choice for a beginner.

    incoming hate from ergodox community in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1 :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 September 2013, 14:17:34
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 03:31:55
    But in all seriousness, how good would an ErgoDox be for a first mechanical keyboard, and on a scale of 1-10 (with 1 being breathing, 10 being flying and 5 being the average), how hard would it be to build for someone who has little experience with soldering and board building.

    I'm going to guess a 6-7. It's not easy to build your first keyboard even if you have experience soldering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 September 2013, 17:34:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 September 2013, 14:17:34
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 03:31:55
    But in all seriousness, how good would an ErgoDox be for a first mechanical keyboard, and on a scale of 1-10 (with 1 being breathing, 10 being flying and 5 being the average), how hard would it be to build for someone who has little experience with soldering and board building.

    I'm going to guess a 6-7. It's not easy to build your first keyboard even if you have experience soldering.

    +1

    You may have botched a KMAC build, but I botched my first Phantom build. Oh well, live and learn. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 12:32:06
    My QFR has a smaller breakout board that has the mini usb connection and is connected to the USB via a connector that looks like FILCO connector.

    Since I found out recently that my QFR has a dual layer green PCB and some others have a single layer non printed PCB, I was unsure of the variations between the different QFR production batches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kira0172 on Mon, 02 September 2013, 12:51:14
    What's the filco (white tkl mjt2) made off. On the pictures i can only see cheap texture but i know its not. How is it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 13:33:57
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 12:32:06
    My QFR has a smaller breakout board that has the mini usb connection and is connected to the USB via a connector that looks like FILCO connector.

    Since I found out recently that my QFR has a dual layer green PCB and some others have a single layer non printed PCB, I was unsure of the variations between the different QFR production batches.

    Are you asking about the differences in the QFR batches? I didn't see a question. Assuming you are, I think that the QFRs are all single layer PCBs. They have to cut the costs somewhere so they have a thick plate and a thin PCB. Carter and I talked about this one day.

    Quote from: Kira0172 on Mon, 02 September 2013, 12:51:14
    What's the filco (white tkl mjt2) made off. On the pictures i can only see cheap texture but i know its not. How is it?

    It's probably ABS. What do you mean how is it? If you're asking about the quality of the case, I'd say it's very nice for a stock case. Better than the QFR and Pure case and on the same level as the Leopold FC700R case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 13:43:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 13:33:57
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 12:32:06
    My QFR has a smaller breakout board that has the mini usb connection and is connected to the USB via a connector that looks like FILCO connector.

    Since I found out recently that my QFR has a dual layer green PCB and some others have a single layer non printed PCB, I was unsure of the variations between the different QFR production batches.

    Are you asking about the differences in the QFR batches? I didn't see a question. Assuming you are, I think that the QFRs are all single layer PCBs. They have to cut the costs somewhere so they have a thick plate and a thin PCB. Carter and I talked about this one day.

    Sorry my question wasn't clear, what I mean to ask was is the breakout board with the mini USB connector present in all QFRs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 13:50:11
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 13:43:43
    Sorry my question wasn't clear, what I mean to ask was is the breakout board with the mini USB connector present in all QFRs?

    Pretty sure they are all setup like this so yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jalberstone on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:27:59
    On all of my keyboards I have a lot of ping noises everytime I hit a key and it is annoying me so much that I don't even want to use them anymore. Would O-rings prevent the noise? If not, what can I do to remove the ping sounds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:29:06
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:27:59
    On all of my keyboards I have a lot of ping noises everytime I hit a key and it is annoying me so much that I don't even want to use them anymore. Would O-rings prevent the noise? If not, what can I do to remove the ping sounds?

    What is a ping sound?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JPG on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:32:34
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:29:06
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:27:59
    On all of my keyboards I have a lot of ping noises everytime I hit a key and it is annoying me so much that I don't even want to use them anymore. Would O-rings prevent the noise? If not, what can I do to remove the ping sounds?

    What is a ping sound?

    It's a resonating sound. You can hear it after the key press or debounce if you are unlucky to have a pinging keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:35:18
    Quote from: JPG on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:32:34
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:29:06
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:27:59
    On all of my keyboards I have a lot of ping noises everytime I hit a key and it is annoying me so much that I don't even want to use them anymore. Would O-rings prevent the noise? If not, what can I do to remove the ping sounds?

    What is a ping sound?

    It's a resonating sound. You can hear it after the key press or debounce if you are unlucky to have a pinging keyboard.

    Oh :( Never had that (although I only have 2 keyboards).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jalberstone on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:36:03
    Quote from: JPG on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:32:34
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:29:06
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:27:59
    On all of my keyboards I have a lot of ping noises everytime I hit a key and it is annoying me so much that I don't even want to use them anymore. Would O-rings prevent the noise? If not, what can I do to remove the ping sounds?

    What is a ping sound?

    It's a resonating sound. You can hear it after the key press or debounce if you are unlucky to have a pinging keyboard.

    Well then I must be really unlucky because I have it on all of my keyboards and I have four of them!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:36:56
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:27:59
    On all of my keyboards I have a lot of ping noises everytime I hit a key and it is annoying me so much that I don't even want to use them anymore. Would O-rings prevent the noise? If not, what can I do to remove the ping sounds?

    O-rings might help, lubing your stabilizers help more. For what it's worth, I've never had any issues with pinging on my keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jalberstone on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:38:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:36:56
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:27:59
    On all of my keyboards I have a lot of ping noises everytime I hit a key and it is annoying me so much that I don't even want to use them anymore. Would O-rings prevent the noise? If not, what can I do to remove the ping sounds?

    O-rings might help, lubing your stabilizers help more. For what it's worth, I've never had any issues with pinging on my keyboards.

    I have already lubed my stabilizers, but I have pinging on every one of my keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 14:46:18
    Try putting a drawer mat/liner between the case and the PCB. The mat/liner should eat up some of the resonance. You can use the $2 stuff they sell at Target. You can also try putting a large mousepad or cloth underneath your keyboard which I think will help as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kira0172 on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:08:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 13:33:57
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 02 September 2013, 12:32:06
    My QFR has a smaller breakout board that has the mini usb connection and is connected to the USB via a connector that looks like FILCO connector.

    Since I found out recently that my QFR has a dual layer green PCB and some others have a single layer non printed PCB, I was unsure of the variations between the different QFR production batches.

    Are you asking about the differences in the QFR batches? I didn't see a question. Assuming you are, I think that the QFRs are all single layer PCBs. They have to cut the costs somewhere so they have a thick plate and a thin PCB. Carter and I talked about this one day.

    Quote from: Kira0172 on Mon, 02 September 2013, 12:51:14
    What's the filco (white tkl mjt2) made off. On the pictures i can only see cheap texture but i know its not. How is it?

    It's probably ABS. What do you mean how is it? If you're asking about the quality of the case, I'd say it's very nice for a stock case. Better than the QFR and Pure case and on the same level as the Leopold FC700R case.

    I meant the case. It looks like textured plastic. How is it in person?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:18:16
    It's just standard ABS, mostly smooth. My previous post statement stands.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:51:55
    Anyone know what printing method is used on the extra caps and the stock caps from WWW.pckeyboards.com?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:52:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:18:16
    It's just standard ABS, mostly smooth. My previous post statement stands.

    I actually find it to be more rough then smooth. There is definitely a texture there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:55:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:51:55
    Anyone know what printing method is used on the extra caps and the stock caps from WWW.pckeyboards.com?

    Can you link to the board you're asking about because I get rerouted to "KSIKeyboards.com" and I can't find just keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 September 2013, 17:35:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:55:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:51:55
    Anyone know what printing method is used on the extra caps and the stock caps from WWW.pckeyboards.com?

    Can you link to the board you're asking about because I get rerouted to "KSIKeyboards.com" and I can't find just keycaps.

    it was pckeyboard.com sorry didn't mean to add the "s".
    http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UB40P4A
    http://pckeyboard.com/page/SBLE/GHFunKey specifically the gray keys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 17:41:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 02 September 2013, 17:35:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:55:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 02 September 2013, 16:51:55
    Anyone know what printing method is used on the extra caps and the stock caps from WWW.pckeyboards.com?

    Can you link to the board you're asking about because I get rerouted to "KSIKeyboards.com" and I can't find just keycaps.

    it was pckeyboard.com sorry didn't mean to add the "s".
    http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UB40P4A
    http://pckeyboard.com/page/SBLE/GHFunKey specifically the gray keys

    Pretty sure they're dye-subbed PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 September 2013, 18:01:26
    I better order that set quick then being a limited small batch run.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vasouv on Tue, 03 September 2013, 05:13:50
    What's an Otaku keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GeeGee on Tue, 03 September 2013, 05:16:35
    Quote from: vasouv on Tue, 03 September 2013, 05:13:50
    What's an Otaku keyboard?
    Otaku keyboards are boards with blank key caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 September 2013, 06:24:51
    Quote from: GeeGee on Tue, 03 September 2013, 05:16:35
    Quote from: vasouv on Tue, 03 September 2013, 05:13:50
    What's an Otaku keyboard?
    Otaku keyboards are boards with blank key caps.


    Excellent example of why this thread exists. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:53:41
    Alright guys quick one here.  Can someone provide a list of the different stock MX switches in order of ease in finding in a full size keyboard?  I would assume blue, brown and reds would be at the top of the list but want something a little more comprehensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:59:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:53:41
    Alright guys quick one here.  Can someone provide a list of the different stock MX switches in order of ease in finding in a full size keyboard?  I would assume blue, brown and reds would be at the top of the list but want something a little more comprehensive.

    I'd say black, blue, brown and reds are the most common.

    You also have some quickfires with greens (but those are TKL) and now the wasd code witch clears.

    I have never seen other switches in stock boards, but I have not been not around for long.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 03 September 2013, 10:24:25
    Quote from: lcs on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:59:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 03 September 2013, 09:53:41
    Alright guys quick one here.  Can someone provide a list of the different stock MX switches in order of ease in finding in a full size keyboard?  I would assume blue, brown and reds would be at the top of the list but want something a little more comprehensive.

    I'd say black, blue, brown and reds are the most common.

    You also have some quickfires with greens (but those are TKL) and now the wasd code witch clears.

    I have never seen other switches in stock boards, but I'm not around for long.

    MK.com has Ducky DK9008G2 PRO keyboards with MX Dark Grey (linear) switches in stock.  They also have the Deck Legend keyboards with MX Clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 03 September 2013, 10:37:45
    excellent thanx guys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 04 September 2013, 01:36:15
    I'm not so handwired, it seems(problem on plate) :(
    Any services(somenone) could making PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 04 September 2013, 09:44:06
    Does anyone know where I can buy screws locally? Does home depot sell them? i'm asking because I just got a new Ducky Shine 2 and the screw (under the case) barely fastens in tight...someone must have over tightened it. Did anyone experience this? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 September 2013, 10:04:56
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 04 September 2013, 01:36:15
    I'm not so handwired, it seems(problem on plate) :(
    Any services(somenone) could making PCB?


    Oshpark (http://oshpark.com/) will print PCBs. Is there a reason you're saying you can't make a plate? You just need to come up with a CAD drawing and then find a plate such as BigBlueSaw or a local machine shop to cut it for you.

    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 04 September 2013, 09:44:06
    Does anyone know where I can buy screws locally? Does home depot sell them? i'm asking because I just got a new Ducky Shine 2 and the screw (under the case) barely fastens in tight...someone must have over tightened it. Did anyone experience this? Thanks!

    Yes Home Depot or a hardware store would have screws but I'm not sure what size they are. You can always bring the screw into a store and ask them if they carry that. No I don't have a Ducky so I can't comment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 04 September 2013, 10:33:17
    I think he's asking if someone can design the PCB for him. If so, that is a big undertaking, worthy of its own thread. The PCB designer will need detailed information on exactly what the layout of the board will be, and what you expect it to do.

    Also, even if you can find someone to design the PCB for you, having it printed is an expensive undertaking, especially for a keyboard sized PCB. Having even one or two PCBs fabricated will cost in the $150-200 range. Then, if you used an onboard controller, you have to source those components (controller IC, diodes, resistors, capacitors), and solder them onto the PCB yourself (SMD?).

    Plate mounting by having a metal plate cut for you and direct wiring the matrix to the (Teensy) controller is by far the least expensive route, albeit a labor intensive one.

    I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to make a keyboard design in secret, you need to have money to throw at your project. If you want others to help you with your new design, you'll probably have to do most of it in the open. And be prepared to spend lots of time soldering connections.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:21:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 September 2013, 10:04:56
    Oshpark (http://oshpark.com/) will print PCBs. Is there a reason you're saying you can't make a plate? You just need to come up with a CAD drawing and then find a plate such as BigBlueSaw or a local machine shop to cut it for you.
    Sorry :-[ CPT my question not specific again,yes i mean design PCB sorry :-[
    i can't CAD but photoshop not bad ;D unfortunately in my city nothing like that :-\quite difficult to find like that
    if any. i hope can making plate
    Thanks man! :thumb:
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 04 September 2013, 10:33:17
    I think he's asking if someone can design the PCB for him. If so, that is a big undertaking, worthy of its own thread. The PCB designer will need detailed information on exactly what the layout of the board will be, and what you expect it to do.

    Also, even if you can find someone to design the PCB for you, having it printed is an expensive undertaking, especially for a keyboard sized PCB. Having even one or two PCBs fabricated will cost in the $150-200 range. Then, if you used an onboard controller, you have to source those components (controller IC, diodes, resistors, capacitors), and solder them onto the PCB yourself (SMD?).

    Plate mounting by having a metal plate cut for you and direct wiring the matrix to the (Teensy) controller is by far the least expensive route, albeit a labor intensive one.

    I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to make a keyboard design in secret, you need to have money to throw at your project. If you want others to help you with your new design, you'll probably have to do most of it in the open. And be prepared to spend lots of time soldering connections.
    Nah,i mean that  i want someone for design with KiCAD only
    150$-200$ ^-^
    Controller fixed with teensy
    my keyboard for me while. so it seems i want cheap PCB only, maybe like key64
    actually i want handwired too, but (problem with plate) case. without it, the cable would seem and distrub
    I can't put, just like that without a case thought for while
    honestly more easy with PCB,request someone for designPCB,i give to PCBmaker,finally i just soldered switch and teensy.etc
    without case/plate no problem for while, but the problem should be design PCB :confused: not big project, just my project,
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:24:59
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:21:13
    honestly more easy with PCB,request someone for designPCB,i give to PCBmaker

    There's a question in the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_AA) you can check out for people who will help you design something. If you can't find help, you can try learning KiCAD yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:32:29
    Sorry i don't understand, What OP?
    you mean making thread

    THANKS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 September 2013, 12:33:40
    I mean read the first post in this thread and find help. I even linked it for you...

    OP = Original Post
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 04 September 2013, 16:58:04
    I just bought a Model F XT do I need a special converter or can I just use http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F2N017-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B00000J1UB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378331777&sr=8-1&keywords=xt+to+ps2
    and http://www.amazon.com/PS2-Keyboard-To-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1378331801&sr=8-5&keywords=ps2+to+usb+adapter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 04 September 2013, 17:00:51
    Quote from: Rule16 on Wed, 04 September 2013, 16:58:04
    I just bought a Model F XT do I need a special converter or can I just use http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F2N017-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B00000J1UB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378331777&sr=8-1&keywords=xt+to+ps2
    and http://www.amazon.com/PS2-Keyboard-To-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1378331801&sr=8-5&keywords=ps2+to+usb+adapter

    Unfortunately, I don't think that will work, since it's only XT compatible, not AT. I'm thinking you need a Soarer's XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0) to use the XT Model F with a modern PC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 04 September 2013, 20:22:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 September 2013, 10:04:56
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 04 September 2013, 01:36:15
    I'm not so handwired, it seems(problem on plate) :(
    Any services(somenone) could making PCB?


    Oshpark (http://oshpark.com/) will print PCBs. Is there a reason you're saying you can't make a plate? You just need to come up with a CAD drawing and then find a plate such as BigBlueSaw or a local machine shop to cut it for you.

    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 04 September 2013, 09:44:06
    Does anyone know where I can buy screws locally? Does home depot sell them? i'm asking because I just got a new Ducky Shine 2 and the screw (under the case) barely fastens in tight...someone must have over tightened it. Did anyone experience this? Thanks!

    Yes Home Depot or a hardware store would have screws but I'm not sure what size they are. You can always bring the screw into a store and ask them if they carry that. No I don't have a Ducky so I can't comment.

    Thanks man, you're always so helpful! I ended up stealing a similar size screw from my girlfriend's leftover screws from her Corsair tower.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 September 2013, 20:25:22
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 04 September 2013, 20:22:48
    Thanks man, you're always so helpful! I ended up stealing a similar size screw from my girlfriend's leftover screws from her Corsair tower.

    Those worked? Interesting. Maybe I'll venture into Home Depot with my case leftovers and ask them about the size. And you're welcome, glad to help ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 04 September 2013, 20:38:11
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 04 September 2013, 17:00:51
    Quote from: Rule16 on Wed, 04 September 2013, 16:58:04
    I just bought a Model F XT do I need a special converter or can I just use http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F2N017-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B00000J1UB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378331777&sr=8-1&keywords=xt+to+ps2
    and http://www.amazon.com/PS2-Keyboard-To-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1378331801&sr=8-5&keywords=ps2+to+usb+adapter

    Unfortunately, I don't think that will work, since it's only XT compatible, not AT. I'm thinking you need a Soarer's XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0) to use the XT Model F with a modern PC.
    Hmmm is there anywhere that could make one of these for me?... I can't solder or anything :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 September 2013, 20:43:52
    Quote from: Rule16 on Wed, 04 September 2013, 20:38:11
    Hmmm is there anywhere that could make one of these for me?... I can't solder or anything :(

    Check this out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_AA). Maybe someone on there can make one for you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 04 September 2013, 21:15:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 September 2013, 20:43:52
    Quote from: Rule16 on Wed, 04 September 2013, 20:38:11
    Hmmm is there anywhere that could make one of these for me?... I can't solder or anything :(

    Check this out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_AA). Maybe someone on there can make one for you?
    Oh nice, thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AuRinBei on Thu, 05 September 2013, 00:57:26
    Can you swap the control and capslock keys at a hardware level on the Poker II? This review:
    says that you cannot, but why wouldn't you be able to? Does the programming mode not work at all with either capslock or ctrl?

    Also, you can access the function layer in program mode, right. Like if you wanted to map the arrow keys to okl;, you could do that, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Thu, 05 September 2013, 01:57:11
    Do you know of any companies or members of the forums that provide laser cutting (acrylic) or 3D printing services that ships to/within Canada? I'm looking around to see how much it would cost to get some cases for an ErgoDox made.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 September 2013, 06:32:53
    Quote from: AuRinBei on Thu, 05 September 2013, 00:57:26
    1) Can you swap the control and capslock keys at a hardware level on the Poker II? This review:
    says that you cannot, but why wouldn't you be able to? Does the programming mode not work at all with either capslock or ctrl?

    2) Also, you can access the function layer in program mode, right. Like if you wanted to map the arrow keys to okl;, you could do that, right?

    1) It's two function layers that you can reprogram on the Poker 2 if I recall correctly. Unless there's a dipswitch or something, like the WASD V2 has, I don't think you can change the firmware. You could always try a hard rewire though, i.e. rewire the ctrl and caps, but I'm not sure exactly how to do it and it seems to be a bit risky. I think Samwisekoi advised someone how to do it but I forgot.

    2) Yes.

    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Thu, 05 September 2013, 01:57:11
    Do you know of any companies or members of the forums that provide laser cutting (acrylic) or 3D printing services that ships to/within Canada? I'm looking around to see how much it would cost to get some cases for an ErgoDox made.

    I think AcidFire is in Canada and can do laser cutting. You can try PMing him. If you *really* want 3D printed cases, you can try asking mkawa or leslieann but I think their printers aren't big enough. Maybe Shapeways can print you one but the ErgoDox case is pretty big.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Thu, 05 September 2013, 13:34:26
    What do you think of http://www.ebay.it/itm/Full-Size-Alps-Mechanical-Switch-USB-wired-Keyboard-compatible-Window-7-ASK6600-/400257259955?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5d313119b3 (http://www.ebay.it/itm/Full-Size-Alps-Mechanical-Switch-USB-wired-Keyboard-compatible-Window-7-ASK6600-/400257259955?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5d313119b3)?
    My father is looking for an entry level full size mech, unfortuantely there aren't many options here in italy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 September 2013, 13:37:32
    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 05 September 2013, 13:34:26
    What do you think of http://www.ebay.it/itm/Full-Size-Alps-Mechanical-Switch-USB-wired-Keyboard-compatible-Window-7-ASK6600-/400257259955?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5d313119b3 (http://www.ebay.it/itm/Full-Size-Alps-Mechanical-Switch-USB-wired-Keyboard-compatible-Window-7-ASK6600-/400257259955?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5d313119b3)?
    My father is looking for an entry level full size mech, unfortuantely there aren't many options here in italy.

    Looks nice? And its hard to tell what Alps switches it uses. Why not try and import a Filco or a CoolerMaster QuickFire Storm?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Thu, 05 September 2013, 13:45:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 September 2013, 13:37:32
    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 05 September 2013, 13:34:26
    What do you think of http://www.ebay.it/itm/Full-Size-Alps-Mechanical-Switch-USB-wired-Keyboard-compatible-Window-7-ASK6600-/400257259955?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5d313119b3 (http://www.ebay.it/itm/Full-Size-Alps-Mechanical-Switch-USB-wired-Keyboard-compatible-Window-7-ASK6600-/400257259955?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5d313119b3)?
    My father is looking for an entry level full size mech, unfortuantely there aren't many options here in italy.

    Looks nice? And its hard to tell what Alps switches it uses. Why not try and import a Filco or a CoolerMaster QuickFire Storm?
    Do you think that it would be a good choice if i can't find any better alternatives?
    I thought that cherry g80's would do, since you can find them for around 60€ on amazon it, but they are only avaiable with de layout, which he doesn't like.
    Maybe a quickfire xt or a ducky zero would be nice choices too.
    Do you think that it would be a good choice if i can't find any better alternatives
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 September 2013, 13:47:53
    First mechanical full size keyboard? Quick Fire Storm or XT. If you can spring for it, a Filco Majestouch 2. I don't care for the Ducky Zero.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Thu, 05 September 2013, 14:11:17
    Just another quick question.
    Are there any boards that are uncompatible with linux?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 05 September 2013, 21:58:26
    What's a teensy and what does it do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FapFlop on Thu, 05 September 2013, 22:04:55
    DIY for changing the leds in the QFR? I want a soft green or blue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 September 2013, 22:09:00
    Quote from: elton5354 on Thu, 05 September 2013, 21:58:26
    What's a teensy and what does it do?

    It converts your non-usb keyboard to a USB. For example, if you buy a XT F, you can make it a USB compatable keyboard with a teensy. It's basically a little USB development board that Soarer and others use to create an adapter. More info can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0).

    Quote from: FapFlop on Thu, 05 September 2013, 22:04:55
    DIY for changing the leds in the QFR? I want a soft green or blue.

    Is that a question? Thread works better when you ask a proper question :P

    Try this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37266.15) and here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44750.15).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Thu, 05 September 2013, 23:38:36
    Where is the cheapest place to get a 6.25x Cherry stabilizer wire? Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 05 September 2013, 23:48:22
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Thu, 05 September 2013, 23:38:36
    Where is the cheapest place to get a 6.25x Cherry stabilizer wire? Thanks

    cherry or costar?

    costar from wasdkeyboards.
    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/cherry-mx-stabilizer-spring-for-spacebar.html

    cherry you will have to make your own or find someone else to make one for you.

    edit: oops you said cherry. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Fri, 06 September 2013, 00:03:57
    Quote from: domoaligato on Thu, 05 September 2013, 23:48:22
    cherry or costar?

    costar from wasdkeyboards.
    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/cherry-mx-stabilizer-spring-for-spacebar.html

    cherry you will have to make your own or find someone else to make one for you.

    edit: oops you said cherry. :D

    Yea, I can just make my own. What gauge wire will I need?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 September 2013, 06:30:50
    Quote from: TheFlyingRaccoon on Fri, 06 September 2013, 00:03:57
    Yea, I can just make my own. What gauge wire will I need?

    Check the OP, it's listed there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Fri, 06 September 2013, 10:13:59
    Are the matias mac keyboards compatible with linux?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 September 2013, 11:00:00
    Quote from: Narcix on Fri, 06 September 2013, 10:13:59
    Are the matias mac keyboards compatible with linux?

    http://matias.ca/tactilepro3/support/#LINUXcompat

    http://matias.ca/quietpro/mac/support/#LINUXcompat
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 06 September 2013, 11:16:12
    Quote from: elton5354 on Thu, 05 September 2013, 21:58:26
    What's a teensy and what does it do?

    We also use them as the core for the phantom keyboard and for hardwired keyboard designs like Matt3o steel beauty and brown fox keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 September 2013, 12:28:30
    What size screws does the LZ-GH use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 September 2013, 14:04:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 September 2013, 12:28:30
    What size screws does the LZ-GH use?

    Maybe PM the Team Red-Line members? One or more or them would certainly have this info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 06 September 2013, 14:25:44
    I need a micro-usb breakout board but can't find any with the measurements I want so I'm gonna have one made for myself.

    I understand there's SMD receptacles and I think through-hole but which type of mounting is the most solid & secure?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 September 2013, 14:33:07
    What about the TRiKy? It uses Micro USB.

    http://red-line.kr
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 September 2013, 14:36:15
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 06 September 2013, 14:25:44
    I need a micro-usb breakout board but can't find any with the measurements I want so I'm gonna have one made for myself.

    I understand there's SMD receptacles and I think through-hole but which type of mounting is the most solid & secure?

    Like this?

    https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9614
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 06 September 2013, 15:26:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 September 2013, 14:36:15
    Like this?

    https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9614
    Pretty much like that, but as I've said I need my own custom measurements. Just wondering what kind of receptacle is best to use.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 September 2013, 14:33:07
    What about the TRiKy? It uses Micro USB.

    http://red-line.kr
    By breakout board I simply meant a small PCB with a micro-usb port on it and pinouts to the 'vcc', 'd-' etc. like the link ray posted :)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Sat, 07 September 2013, 00:16:56
    What are the practical differences between white and clear stems, aside from a subdued click?

    I am very interested by clears, but I do love the click.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 September 2013, 00:18:52
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Sat, 07 September 2013, 00:16:56
    What are the practical differences between white and clear stems, aside from a subdued click?

    I am very interested by clears, but I do love the click.

    That's about it. Bump vs click. To me, they feel equally heavy. If you want a proper force readout, check the OP for rkinze's measurements.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 07 September 2013, 00:19:46
    Quote from: CalmB4tehPwn on Sat, 07 September 2013, 00:16:56
    What are the practical differences between white and clear stems, aside from a subdued click?

    I am very interested by clears, but I do love the click.
    MX white : http://i.imgur.com/WeXMC43.jpg
    MX clear : http://i.imgur.com/KCsOv0W.jpg

    They are very different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 September 2013, 00:28:50
    Right, the click is accomplished with the 2 part slider vs the clear's single stem. I just meant in terms of how the switches felt :3.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:03:42
    How much, MAX spacing switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:14:42
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:03:42
    How much, MAX spacing switch?

    If you're asking what the spacing is between each switch, that's in the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:24:18
    Not,i mean spacing or distance each holes on plate but The MAX?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:30:22
    What do you mean: the max. I'm not understanding what you're asking as usual. On the MAX keyboard? The maximum width? What?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:36:26
    the maximum :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:37:09
    Yes I know max = maximum. What maximum are you asking about?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:46:59
    distance each holes(switch) on plate
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:49:18
    Are you asking for the size of the plate itself? Because I literally just told you the distance between the switch holes in the plate. That information (distance from the center of each hole in a plate) is in the OP.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_ZZ
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 07 September 2013, 04:48:56
    ok so i just got a set of the geekhack.org function keys from pckeyboard.com and have a question for you guys.  On the actual switch cap with the legends on them the "F1" key doesn't seem to have the little catches on it that the other ones do so you can just pull it straight off with zero effort.  Has anyone else seen this and have any idea on how easy to deal with the parent web site it is with something of this nature??

    Melvang

    PS After typing on MX switches this chicklet keyboard on this new Asus laptop can suck my hairy *#&!@$^.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 07 September 2013, 06:51:46
    Any someone can make design plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 September 2013, 09:49:15
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 07 September 2013, 04:48:56
    ok so i just got a set of the geekhack.org function keys from pckeyboard.com and have a question for you guys.  On the actual switch cap with the legends on them the "F1" key doesn't seem to have the little catches on it that the other ones do so you can just pull it straight off with zero effort.  Has anyone else seen this and have any idea on how easy to deal with the parent web site it is with something of this nature??

    Can you take a picture please? I'm not quite sure I follow.

    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 07 September 2013, 06:51:46
    Any someone can make design plate?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_AA

    While you're there, you should read the rest of it so I don't have to keep yelling at you to read the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 07 September 2013, 21:56:51
    I will try and get a pic posted in the morning for you Cpt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 September 2013, 13:05:41
    Are there any Alps keyboards that have the G80-1800 layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 08 September 2013, 22:32:29
    Where can I buy a wire for cherry stabilizer online?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 09 September 2013, 03:33:34
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 08 September 2013, 22:32:29
    Where can I buy a wire for cherry stabilizer online?

    Mouser, see the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frogamic on Mon, 09 September 2013, 04:42:52
    Are the novelty doubleshot key caps by techkeys/keypop SP DCS profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 September 2013, 07:43:43
    Quote from: frogamic on Mon, 09 September 2013, 04:42:52
    Are the novelty doubleshot key caps by techkeys/keypop SP DCS profile?

    Yes, you're correct.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: csmith1991 on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:03:19
    I've only recently found out about GH, during my search for info about 60% keyboards. The HHKB keyboard has the layout that I think I'd really like, but for its price it just isn't for me :(. I missed the group buy it would seem, so my question is this: When would GH60 keyboards start showing up in the classifieds, and anyone got an idea how prices would work for that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:07:21
    Quote from: csmith1991 on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:03:19
    I've only recently found out about GH, during my search for info about 60% keyboards. The HHKB keyboard has the layout that I think I'd really like, but for its price it just isn't for me :(. I missed the group buy it would seem, so my question is this: When would GH60 keyboards start showing up in the classifieds, and anyone got an idea how prices would work for that?

    My guess would be around next year.  But that is just a shot in the dark there.

    Question of my own.  Are all the keys on the unicomp buckling spring boards a 2 piece cap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:14:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 September 2013, 13:05:41
    Are there any Alps keyboards that have the G80-1800 layout?

    Yup

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35672.msg1034865#msg1034865 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35672.msg1034865#msg1034865)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 September 2013, 13:05:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:07:21
    Question of my own.  Are all the keys on the unicomp buckling spring boards a 2 piece cap?

    Pretty sure they are, yes.

    Quote from: csmith1991 on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:03:19
    When would GH60 keyboards start showing up in the classifieds, and anyone got an idea how prices would work for that?

    Probably go for the same price as the GB. I've seen a few orders for sale already. More will come once people have them in hand. Probably sometime late this year or early 2014. In the future, don't ask about pricing here though. There's already a thread for that.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:14:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 September 2013, 13:05:41
    Are there any Alps keyboards that have the G80-1800 layout?

    Yup

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35672.msg1034865#msg1034865 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35672.msg1034865#msg1034865)

    Besides that one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 09 September 2013, 13:07:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 September 2013, 13:05:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:07:21
    Question of my own.  Are all the keys on the unicomp buckling spring boards a 2 piece cap?

    Pretty sure they are, yes.



    Thanks CPT.  Also I emailed pckeyboard.com and told them about the issue with the top half of the cap and i got a reply back saying they would mail me a replacement within 3 minutes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 September 2013, 13:10:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 09 September 2013, 13:07:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 September 2013, 13:05:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:07:21
    Question of my own.  Are all the keys on the unicomp buckling spring boards a 2 piece cap?

    Pretty sure they are, yes.

    Thanks CPT.  Also I emailed pckeyboard.com and told them about the issue with the top half of the cap and i got a reply back saying they would mail me a replacement within 3 minutes.

    That worked itself out nicely then :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Mon, 09 September 2013, 13:57:17
    anyone bought a QFR Red from newegg recently? is it branded? about about the plate's color? (still red?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:00:17
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 09 September 2013, 13:57:17
    anyone bought a QFR Red from newegg recently? is it branded? about about the plate's color? (still red?)

    Check this out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46341.msg977953#msg977953). Plate should be red.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:16:32
    Do any Korean custom boards allow the use of Costar stabs? I really don't understand the appeal of PCB mount cherry stabs like the KMACs use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:41:51
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:16:32
    1) Do any Korean custom boards allow the use of Costar stabs?
    2) I really don't understand the appeal of PCB mount cherry stabs like the KMACs use.

    1) My boy Sifo says no
    2) If you don't like the feel of PCB mount Cherry stabilizers, you can try clipping them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:48:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:41:51
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:16:32
    1) Do any Korean custom boards allow the use of Costar stabs?
    2) I really don't understand the appeal of PCB mount cherry stabs like the KMACs use.

    1) My boy Sifo says no
    2) If you don't like the feel of PCB mount Cherry stabilizers, you can try clipping them

    Thanks, will try that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:51:32
    PCB mounted stabs feel fine to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:52:59
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:51:32
    PCB mounted stabs feel fine to me.

    They feel mushy to me. Costar stabs don't seem to affect the feel of the switch at all, but bottoming out on a Cherry stab feels like a rubber dome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:54:32
    clip em clip em clip em

    pcb mount normal - meh
    plate mount normal - meh
    costar - good
    pcb clipped - AMAZING
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:55:15
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:52:59
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:51:32
    PCB mounted stabs feel fine to me.

    They feel mushy to me. Costar stabs don't seem to effect the feel of the switch at all, but bottoming out on a Cherry stab feels like a rubber dome.



    Yup, I have the same opinion ComradeSniper. Check this out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34759.0). I did it on my KMAC and I highly recommend it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 09 September 2013, 22:28:15
    the stl files on ergodox.org are created in inches or cm?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 09 September 2013, 22:38:10
    anyone know if you can dim CCFL with a resistor before the invertor?  I am thinking no but wanted to check before I bought parts
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 11:55:53
    I checked out the FAQ but didn't find and answer to my question (which is incredibly basic). I've been looking for my first mechanical keyboard and the one I liked most was the fully backlit keycool 84. Is there a place in Europe where I can buy it without importing? Brown/Blue switches. Tried eBay and Amazon to no avail.

    And if not, what about Ducky Shine III? We don't have a place selling a lot of mechanical keyboard brands here. Just the more popular ones like Razer, SS and CM. So if you can show me some links to shops that ship to EU I'll be very grateful. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:00:51
    Quote from: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 11:55:53
    I checked out the FAQ but didn't find and answer to my question (which is incredibly basic). I've been looking for my first mechanical keyboard and the one I liked most was the fully backlit keycool 84. Is there a place in Europe where I can buy it without importing? Brown/Blue switches. Tried eBay and Amazon to no avail.

    And if not, what about Ducky Shine III? We don't have a place selling a lot of mechanical keyboard brands here. Just the more popular ones like Razer, SS and CM. So if you can show me some links to shops that ship to EU I'll be very grateful. Thanks.

    http://stores.ebay.com/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/Mechanical-Gaming-keyboard-/_i.html?_fsub=2504364013&_sid=1011272153&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

    Qtan is awesome. He ships from China, but it only takes like 1 week to get to the US. I don't know about EU shipping, but I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem.

    Edit: He sells his stuff cheaper on his site: http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:06:13
    Quote from: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 11:55:53
    I checked out the FAQ but didn't find and answer to my question (which is incredibly basic). Is there a place in Europe where I can buy it without importing?

    I haven't research different vendors in different locales simply because I'm lazy and that task is a bit daunting to me. If you want to do so, let me know what you find.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:08:38
    You can get Filcos in the EU at The Keyboard Company (http://keyboardco.com). Bruce is a member here.

    I'm not sure where you might get a Keycool or Ducky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Xenderwind on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:11:22
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:00:51
    Quote from: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 11:55:53
    I checked out the FAQ but didn't find and answer to my question (which is incredibly basic). I've been looking for my first mechanical keyboard and the one I liked most was the fully backlit keycool 84. Is there a place in Europe where I can buy it without importing? Brown/Blue switches. Tried eBay and Amazon to no avail.

    And if not, what about Ducky Shine III? We don't have a place selling a lot of mechanical keyboard brands here. Just the more popular ones like Razer, SS and CM. So if you can show me some links to shops that ship to EU I'll be very grateful. Thanks.

    http://stores.ebay.com/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/Mechanical-Gaming-keyboard-/_i.html?_fsub=2504364013&_sid=1011272153&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

    Qtan is awesome. He ships from China, but it only takes like 1 week to get to the US. I don't know about EU shipping, but I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem.

    Edit: He sells his stuff cheaper on his site: http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/


    I don't think the problem is the time it takes.  It's the extra cost because its an import.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:14:20
    Yeah I know the site but I meant if there was a place IN europe where I can buy them, because I have to pay imports and I have to go to the customs and waste a lot of time until I take my keyboard out of bond.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:16:30
    Quote from: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:14:20
    Yeah I know the site but I meant if there was a place IN europe where I can buy them, because I have to pay imports and I have to go to the customs and waste a lot of time until I take my keyboard out of bond.

    I would have no idea about storefronts in Europe unfortunately. Hopefully some of our EU buddies can chime in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:17:51
    Quote from: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:14:20
    Yeah I know the site but I meant if there was a place IN europe where I can buy them, because I have to pay imports and I have to go to the customs and waste a lot of time until I take my keyboard out of bond.

    I don't think there's a place in Europe where they sell Ducky or Keycool. Only european sellers I know are keyboardco, qwerkeys and kbtrace.com.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:23:07
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Mon, 09 September 2013, 22:28:15
    the stl files on ergodox.org are created in inches or cm?

    It's not a drawing so it shouldn't matter. Just change the units in your CAD program to whatever you're familiar with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:25:20
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:17:51
    Quote from: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:14:20
    Yeah I know the site but I meant if there was a place IN europe where I can buy them, because I have to pay imports and I have to go to the customs and waste a lot of time until I take my keyboard out of bond.

    I don't think there's a place in Europe where they sell Ducky or Keycool. Only european sellers I know are keyboardco, qwerkeys and kbtrace.com.

    Perhaps more Scandinavia than Europe, but Teraset.net (Finland) carries Ducky.

    https://www.teraset.net/ducky.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:32:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:16:30
    Quote from: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:14:20
    Yeah I know the site but I meant if there was a place IN europe where I can buy them, because I have to pay imports and I have to go to the customs and waste a lot of time until I take my keyboard out of bond.

    I would have no idea about storefronts in Europe unfortunately. Hopefully some of our EU buddies can chime in.

    My reading comprehension is apparently at an all time low :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LoNeWolF on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:37:31
    Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate all the responses. I found this:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42808.0

    Seems like ducky-nordic.com is still under construction tho. I'll try to PM the guy. Thx again. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 September 2013, 22:45:33
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 09 September 2013, 03:33:34
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 08 September 2013, 22:32:29
    Where can I buy a wire for cherry stabilizer online?

    Mouser, see the OP.
    yeah I know, but i mean just the wire, not the whole stabilizer.  I can't find any hobby shop near my location have the right thickness.  So I want to try it online.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 11 September 2013, 02:02:00
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 September 2013, 22:45:33
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 09 September 2013, 03:33:34
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 08 September 2013, 22:32:29
    Where can I buy a wire for cherry stabilizer online?

    Mouser, see the OP.
    yeah I know, but i mean just the wire, not the whole stabilizer.  I can't find any hobby shop near my location have the right thickness.  So I want to try it online.

    you could try music wire.  That stuff is stupid strong but difficult to bend.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 September 2013, 08:45:03
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 September 2013, 22:45:33
    yeah I know, but i mean just the wire, not the whole stabilizer.  I can't find any hobby shop near my location have the right thickness.  So I want to try it online.

    Hobby stores should carry it. I think HobbyLobby and Menards carry it; at least from what I heard. Can't hurt to check the usual Home Depot/Lowes/Hardware store closest to you.

    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 11 September 2013, 02:02:00
    you could try music wire.  That stuff is stupid strong but difficult to bend.

    Can also try this.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:07:15
    i ask again :)
    what keyboard other layout like QF TK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:16:00
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:07:15
    i ask again :)
    what keyboard other layout like QF TK?

    PLUM 96
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:21:33
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:16:00
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:07:15
    i ask again :)
    what keyboard other layout like QF TK?

    PLUM 96

    That board is the only one I still kind of wish I could get just to see if the wireless is worth it.

    You can also do something similar with a phantom.

    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:23:52
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:21:33
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:16:00
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:07:15
    i ask again :)
    what keyboard other layout like QF TK?

    PLUM 96

    That board is the only one I still kind of wish I could get just to see if the wireless is worth it.

    You can also do something similar with a phantom.

    (Attachment Link)


    The plate on that Phantom doesn't look black...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:30:53
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:23:52
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:21:33
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:16:00
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:07:15
    i ask again :)
    what keyboard other layout like QF TK?

    PLUM 96

    That board is the only one I still kind of wish I could get just to see if the wireless is worth it.

    You can also do something similar with a phantom.

    (Attachment Link)


    The plate on that Phantom doesn't look black...

    Evil office lighting + crappy phone camera.....

    I just tried again to get a better pic didn't help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:35:02
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:30:53
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:23:52
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:21:33
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:16:00
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:07:15
    i ask again :)
    what keyboard other layout like QF TK?

    PLUM 96

    That board is the only one I still kind of wish I could get just to see if the wireless is worth it.

    You can also do something similar with a phantom.

    (Attachment Link)


    The plate on that Phantom doesn't look black...

    Evil office lighting + crappy phone camera.....

    I just tried again to get a better pic didn't help.

    Ah, I thought you were cheating on me. ;D

    It looks good! :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 11 September 2013, 11:39:37
    Has the stabilizers on the Ducky Shine 3 changed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 11 September 2013, 19:54:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 September 2013, 08:45:03
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 September 2013, 22:45:33
    yeah I know, but i mean just the wire, not the whole stabilizer.  I can't find any hobby shop near my location have the right thickness.  So I want to try it online.

    Hobby stores should carry it. I think HobbyLobby and Menards carry it; at least from what I heard. Can't hurt to check the usual Home Depot/Lowes/Hardware store closest to you.

    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 11 September 2013, 02:02:00
    you could try music wire.  That stuff is stupid strong but difficult to bend.

    Can also try this.
    i have checked the home depot, those are too thick, maybe I will check the HobbyLobby

    Found!
    found it on the darehobby
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:02:13
    Does anyone have dimensions of The_Beast's poker plate? And the distance between the plate and pcb? I don't have a ruler and I couldn't find the answer through search.

    Thanks to anyone who can help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:04:29
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:02:13
    Does anyone have dimensions of The_Beast's poker plate? And the distance between the plate and pcb? I don't have a ruler and I couldn't find the answer through search.

    Thanks to anyone who can help.
    Distance between top of the plate and top of the PCB -5mm

    It'll be roughly between 285x95 and 300x100. Most likely closer to 285x95.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:08:04
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:04:29
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:02:13
    Does anyone have dimensions of The_Beast's poker plate? And the distance between the plate and pcb? I don't have a ruler and I couldn't find the answer through search.

    Thanks to anyone who can help.
    Distance between top of the plate and top of the PCB -5mm

    It'll be roughly between 285x95 and 300x100. Most likely closer to 285.95.

    Thanks dude. The second measurements are in mm right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:09:01
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:08:04
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:04:29
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:02:13
    Does anyone have dimensions of The_Beast's poker plate? And the distance between the plate and pcb? I don't have a ruler and I couldn't find the answer through search.

    Thanks to anyone who can help.
    Distance between top of the plate and top of the PCB -5mm

    It'll be roughly between 285x95 and 300x100. Most likely closer to 285.95.

    Thanks dude. The second measurements are in mm right?

    Yes. 300 inches would be around 25 ft. Pretty sure that's not the size of a PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:12:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:09:01
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:08:04
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:04:29
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:02:13
    Does anyone have dimensions of The_Beast's poker plate? And the distance between the plate and pcb? I don't have a ruler and I couldn't find the answer through search.

    Thanks to anyone who can help.
    Distance between top of the plate and top of the PCB -5mm

    It'll be roughly between 285x95 and 300x100. Most likely closer to 285.95.

    Thanks dude. The second measurements are in mm right?

    Yes. 300 inches would be around 25 ft. Pretty sure that's not the size of a PCB.

    At first I thought it was in pixels.. then I realized that's ridiculous. Just making sure
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:14:10
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:12:20
    At first I thought it was in pixels.. then I realized that's ridiculous. Just making sure
    (http://i.imgur.com/PJz79D1.png)

    Yes it's mm :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: missalaire on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:16:31
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:12:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:09:01
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:08:04
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:04:29
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 21:02:13
    Does anyone have dimensions of The_Beast's poker plate? And the distance between the plate and pcb? I don't have a ruler and I couldn't find the answer through search.

    Thanks to anyone who can help.
    Distance between top of the plate and top of the PCB -5mm

    It'll be roughly between 285x95 and 300x100. Most likely closer to 285.95.

    Thanks dude. The second measurements are in mm right?

    Yes. 300 inches would be around 25 ft. Pretty sure that's not the size of a PCB.

    At first I thought it was in pixels.. then I realized that's ridiculous. Just making sure

    (http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/facepalm-ascii.jpg)

    WTS common sense
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 12 September 2013, 00:46:20
    Alright, time to bust out a what I fear might be a noob question: Will a G80-1800 PCB fit inside a G81-1800 case?

    And a related question: If it does fit, does anyone know if the leeku PCB from the current group buy thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48261.msg1033756#msg1033756) will also fit a G81-1800 case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 September 2013, 06:17:40
    Quote from: whiskytango on Thu, 12 September 2013, 00:46:20
    1) Will a G80-1800 PCB fit inside a G81-1800 case?

    2) And a related question: If it does fit, does anyone know if the leeku PCB from the current group buy thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48261.msg1033756#msg1033756) will also fit a G81-1800 case?

    1) At a glance? It looks like it should. But I'm just guessing. I'm not 100% sure

    2) I know the PCB will to a G80-1800 case. I'm not sure if there are subtle differences between the G81-1800 and G80-1800 cases.

    Hopefully inlikeflynn sees this. If not, I can PM him and ask.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 12 September 2013, 06:27:37
    Quote from: whiskytango on Thu, 12 September 2013, 00:46:20
    Alright, time to bust out a what I fear might be a noob question: Will a G80-1800 PCB fit inside a G81-1800 case?

    And a related question: If it does fit, does anyone know if the leeku PCB from the current group buy thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48261.msg1033756#msg1033756) will also fit a G81-1800 case?

    My G80-1819HEU pcb is in a G81-1800HQAUS case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 September 2013, 06:30:43
    Yeah I think the G80-1800 and G81-1800 cases are probably made from the same molds. Quite a few people find a nice, but well used G80, and swap it into a new G81 case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 12 September 2013, 06:56:38
    Thanks! I didn't want to bother Flynn as I have pestered him enough lately with questions.

    I have a G81-1800LAAUS that I will try to use as a case for the leeku pcb then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Grobalo on Thu, 12 September 2013, 11:57:33
    Quick question about switches.

    For a given cherry-MX color, are there different switches qualities? I mean, are some red switches better than other for example?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 September 2013, 12:08:55
    Quote from: Grobalo on Thu, 12 September 2013, 11:57:33
    Quick question about switches.

    For a given cherry-MX color, are there different switches qualities? I mean, are some red switches better than other for example?
    Yes, there may be differences between switches depending on the batch. They'll also feel different depending on the board and how its mounted (PCB vs Plate). For modern switches, it's a bit of a gamble. The quality control issues seem to mainly be with the clicky (Blue, Green, and White MX switches). For vintage or older switches, the QC seems to be better. Some people claim certain vintage switches feel different. YMMV.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 13 September 2013, 00:27:22
    where can I get  LED stand-offs for filco-style LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 06:40:54
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 13 September 2013, 00:27:22
    where can I get  LED stand-offs for filco-style LEDs?

    I never realized they had a standoff but i found a picture from Photoelectric (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0). I bet you could just order some plastic bushings and cut it down to size from McMasterCarr or a hardware store. I don't know the diameter though. And I wonder if you actually need them or if you could just put a bit of insulation, like plastic, between the LED and plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:26:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 06:40:54
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 13 September 2013, 00:27:22
    where can I get  LED stand-offs for filco-style LEDs?

    I never realized they had a standoff but i found a picture from Photoelectric (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0). I bet you could just order some plastic bushings and cut it down to size from McMasterCarr or a hardware store. I don't know the diameter though. And I wonder if you actually need them or if you could just put a bit of insulation, like plastic, between the LED and plate.

    They are 5mm in diameter x 8mm in height. You can get 400 of them for $6.83 shipped, from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Amico-Board-Spacer-Support-Holder/dp/B009IN1MNE/).

    Edit: I just ordered some, and I think they ship from China.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:27:38
    Thanks jdcarpe! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:29:43
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:26:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 06:40:54
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 13 September 2013, 00:27:22
    where can I get  LED stand-offs for filco-style LEDs?

    I never realized they had a standoff but i found a picture from Photoelectric (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0). I bet you could just order some plastic bushings and cut it down to size from McMasterCarr or a hardware store. I don't know the diameter though. And I wonder if you actually need them or if you could just put a bit of insulation, like plastic, between the LED and plate.

    They are 5mm in diameter x 8mm in height. You can get 400 of them for $6.83 shipped, from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Amico-Board-Spacer-Support-Holder/dp/B009IN1MNE/).

    someone tell mkawa he can buy a pack and add them to the geekhackers store ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:32:35
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:29:43
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:26:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 06:40:54
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 13 September 2013, 00:27:22
    where can I get  LED stand-offs for filco-style LEDs?

    I never realized they had a standoff but i found a picture from Photoelectric (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0). I bet you could just order some plastic bushings and cut it down to size from McMasterCarr or a hardware store. I don't know the diameter though. And I wonder if you actually need them or if you could just put a bit of insulation, like plastic, between the LED and plate.

    They are 5mm in diameter x 8mm in height. You can get 400 of them for $6.83 shipped, from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Amico-Board-Spacer-Support-Holder/dp/B009IN1MNE/).

    someone tell mkawa he can buy a pack and add them to the geekhackers store ;)

    Hmmm, 2000 pcs is only $21.91 shipped, from Hong Kong. http://www.ebay.com/itm/310577934164
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:45:09
    Can someone please tell me what caps these are? Thanks :) Stole these pictures from somewhere on this forum. Credit where credit is due!

    (http://i.imgur.com/i7h8NEN.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/aIwqBBx.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:48:16
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:45:09
    Can someone please tell me what caps these are? Thanks :) Stole these pictures from somewhere on this forum. Credit where credit is due!

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/i7h8NEN.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/aIwqBBx.jpg)

    Didn't I answer this before? They are 'Dolch' keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:48:28
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:45:09
    Can someone please tell me what caps these are? Thanks :) Stole these pictures from somewhere on this forum. Credit where credit is due!

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/i7h8NEN.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/aIwqBBx.jpg)


    Those are Dolch caps. Looks like they're the original caps with a proper moogle or tsangan kit on the modifer row. Second picture is MMB's or Bro Caps. Not sure who owns the first. More information on the Dolch PAC Keyboard here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1813#Dolch).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:51:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:48:28
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:45:09
    Can someone please tell me what caps these are? Thanks :) Stole these pictures from somewhere on this forum. Credit where credit is due!

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/i7h8NEN.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/aIwqBBx.jpg)


    Those are Dolch caps. Looks like they're the original caps with a proper moogle or tsangan kit on the modifer row. Second picture is MMB's or Bro Caps. Not sure who owns the first. More information on the Dolch PAC Keyboard here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1813#Dolch).

    Thanks, that's what I thought :)

    What exactly is a moogle kit? I've seen that word around here but never figured out what it exactly is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:52:57
    Moogle kit - a kit with 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them
    Tsangan kit - a kit with 1.5x mods and 7x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them

    Original dolch only came with 1.5x mods, so you'll need a moogle kit for most keyboards. Alternatively buy the exact replica from originativeco (when he sells them) which comes with all keycaps for all layouts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:54:51
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:52:57
    Moogle kit - a kit with 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them
    Tsangan kit - a kit with 1.5x mods and 7x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them

    Original dolch only came with 1.5x mods, so you'll need a moogle kit for most keyboards. Alternatively buy the exact replica from originativeco (when he sells them) which comes with all keycaps for all layouts.

    Photekq wanna help me out? Hunt down a picture of both and add them to that post? Gonna add it to the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:55:02
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:52:57
    Moogle kit - a kit with 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them
    Tsangan kit - a kit with 1.5x mods and 7x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them

    Oh ok. So is there a moogle kit for every keycap set? With the same legends / font / colour?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:56:32
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:55:02
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:52:57
    Moogle kit - a kit with 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them
    Tsangan kit - a kit with 1.5x mods and 7x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them

    Oh ok. So is there a moogle kit for every keycap set? With the same legends / font / colour?

    That depends on who organised the GB. Generally 1.25x mods with 6.25x spacebar are sold as standard mod set and a separate Tsangan set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:58:07
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:55:02
    Oh ok. So is there a moogle kit for every keycap set? With the same legends / font / colour?

    No. For most modern sets, they'll come in ANSI 1.25x. If you harvest say a Cherry G81-7000 (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/pos/7000/images/7000.jpg) for the keycaps, you'll notice the bottom row isn't 1.25x mods with 6.25x spacebar. Hence you'd need a moogle. Older sets like a WYSE or Dolch from a Dolch PAC didn't have 1.25x mods/6.25x spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:58:25
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:56:32
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:55:02
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:52:57
    Moogle kit - a kit with 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them
    Tsangan kit - a kit with 1.5x mods and 7x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them

    Oh ok. So is there a moogle kit for every keycap set? With the same legends / font / colour?

    That depends on who organised the GB. Generally 1.25x mods with 6.25x spacebar are sold as standard mod set and a separate Tsangan set.

    Okay cool. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:59:42
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:56:32
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:55:02
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:52:57
    Moogle kit - a kit with 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them
    Tsangan kit - a kit with 1.5x mods and 7x spacebar for keycap sets that don't have them

    Oh ok. So is there a moogle kit for every keycap set? With the same legends / font / colour?

    That depends on who organised the GB. Generally 1.25x mods with 6.25x spacebar are sold as standard mod set and a separate Tsangan set.

    Most GBs here are ANSI 1.25x which are the 1.25x mods/6.25x spacebar. A Tsangan is 1.5x mods/7x spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 14:59:29
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:48:16
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:45:09
    Can someone please tell me what caps these are? Thanks :) Stole these pictures from somewhere on this forum. Credit where credit is due!

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/i7h8NEN.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/aIwqBBx.jpg)

    Didn't I answer this before? They are 'Dolch' keycaps.

    that first photo looks more like dolch alphas with white on black mods (IMO)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:01:45
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:02:46
    that first photo looks more like dolch alphas with white on black mods

    Isn't that what Dolch is? White on Grey Alphas with White on Black mods? Just called Dolch because that's the board the color scheme originally came from.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:02:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:01:45
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 14:59:29
    that first photo looks more like dolch alphas with white on black mods

    Isn't that what Dolch is? White on Grey Alphas with White on Black mods? Just called Dolch because that's the board the color scheme originally came from.

    not what i thought, in fact, in MMB's photo here, the mods are dolch, with the one exception of the right shift, which is white on black
    (http://i.imgur.com/aIwqBBx.jpg)

    edit: also those 1x caps on the bottom row are from the hashbaz tsangan buy, white on black SP to match the SP white on black right shift
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:03:43
    Dolch is actually medium gray and very-dark gray.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:04:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:54:51
    Photekq wanna help me out? Hunt down a picture of both and add them to that post? Gonna add it to the OP.

    I'm not phobro, but winrar?

    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/9738224246_8718a5c544_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/99760972@N03/9738224246/)

    Moogle on top; Tsangan on bottom
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:12:38
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:02:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:01:45
    that first photo looks more like dolch alphas with white on black mods

    Isn't that what Dolch is? White on Grey Alphas with White on Black mods? Just called Dolch because that's the board the color scheme originally came from.

    Quote from: metalliqaz on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:03:43
    Dolch is actually medium gray and very-dark gray.

    For anyone who's reading this later. This is what I learned today. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:13:45
    Bro, check dem quotes  :)) :))

    also, is that photo of moogle vs tsangan ok?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:14:01
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:04:27
    Show Image
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 13:54:51
    Photekq wanna help me out? Hunt down a picture of both and add them to that post? Gonna add it to the OP.

    I'm not phobro, but winrar?

    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/9738224246_8718a5c544_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/99760972@N03/9738224246/)

    Moogle on top; Tsangan on bottom
    Woops, was in dota and missed your post CPT. I think dubs pretty much covered it though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:15:09
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:13:45
    Bro, check dem quotes  :)) :))

    also, is that photo of moogle vs tsangan ok?

    Yeah dude....I edited the wrong post and was like WTF HAPPENED.

    /me IS DUMB

    Could you possible do some sick Paint editing to it too? Box the moogle and the tsangan and label both?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:22:17
    LOL all good
    i got so confused while reading it

    (http://i.imgur.com/shRCBGA.jpg)

    i think some of us might remember vaguely my master paint skills..http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43183.msg879446#msg879446

    also, for the first 3 months i was on Geekhack, i thought the difference between Moogle and Tsangan was profile..i thought they were both 1.5 mods but with different seperate profiles..CPT can vouch for me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 15:23:24
    Thanks dubs, appreciate it. I'll add that to the OP later. And fixing the quotes...that was a mess...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:40:41
    Quick question.. Where can I get dark grey / charcoal pbt?

    I know imsto has thick grey pbt but I would like something darker."

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:43:45
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:40:41
    Quick question.. Where can I get dark grey / charcoal pbt?

    I know imsto has thick grey pbt but I would like something darker."

    Thanks.

    not sure those exist, to be 100% honest
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:45:30
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:43:45
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:40:41
    Quick question.. Where can I get dark grey / charcoal pbt?

    I know imsto has thick grey pbt but I would like something darker."

    Thanks.

    not sure those exist, to be 100% honest

    I've seen them on here somewhere. Can't remember where though. And the owner said they were darker than imsto I believe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:50:19
    There are probably some thin PBTs or ABS ones that are darker. There are no thick PBTs that are darker though..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:51:09
    Any good wrist rests for smaller keyboards? 60%, TKL, HHKB, etc...

    That are available, easy to get at the current time, mind you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:51:44
    Quote from: dnix on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:51:09
    Any good wrist rests for smaller keyboards? 60%, TKL, HHKB, etc...

    That are available, easy to get at the current time, mind you.

    Beast's?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:54:21
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:51:44
    Quote from: dnix on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:51:09
    Any good wrist rests for smaller keyboards? 60%, TKL, HHKB, etc...

    That are available, easy to get at the current time, mind you.

    Beast's?

    He's not making them right now because of school.  They're pretty easy to make though and I've made several myself.

    If you just want a padded one, Grifiti makes a decent one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:55:36
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:50:19
    There are probably some thin PBTs or ABS ones that are darker. There are no thick PBTs that are darker though..

    I think I remember Keyboard King being where they were from.. if that's even a store / person. :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 14 September 2013, 13:34:30
    There was some dark charcoal with black dyesubs sets made by vortex at one point, Ducky had some black pad print on black sets awhile ago too. Both are OEM profile thin caps though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 14 September 2013, 13:50:24
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:32:35
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:29:43
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 September 2013, 08:26:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 September 2013, 06:40:54
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 13 September 2013, 00:27:22
    where can I get  LED stand-offs for filco-style LEDs?

    I never realized they had a standoff but i found a picture from Photoelectric (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0). I bet you could just order some plastic bushings and cut it down to size from McMasterCarr or a hardware store. I don't know the diameter though. And I wonder if you actually need them or if you could just put a bit of insulation, like plastic, between the LED and plate.

    They are 5mm in diameter x 8mm in height. You can get 400 of them for $6.83 shipped, from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Amico-Board-Spacer-Support-Holder/dp/B009IN1MNE/).

    someone tell mkawa he can buy a pack and add them to the geekhackers store ;)

    Hmmm, 2000 pcs is only $21.91 shipped, from Hong Kong. http://www.ebay.com/itm/310577934164
    just bought it  :) thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 14 September 2013, 15:17:44
    just got the music wire today, 1/16" is the right size. But another question come out? what kind of cutter can I use to cut it? I have tried edsyn kp111, it to hard for kp111.
    and....how to bend it? I use a Du-Bro EZ Bender, but the wire break up every time just before it get to 90 degree.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frogamic on Sat, 14 September 2013, 20:56:21
    What type of steel do you use when making a plate for switch mounting?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 14 September 2013, 21:28:16
    Quote from: frogamic on Sat, 14 September 2013, 20:56:21
    What type of steel do you use when making a plate for switch mounting?

    Cherry specs call for 0.060" thickness. You can use any type of steel, but these have typically been made using 16-gauge stainless steel. 16-gauge is 0.0625" but is close enough to work well for our purposes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 15 September 2013, 18:33:55
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 14 September 2013, 15:17:44
    just got the music wire today, 1/16" is the right size. But another question come out? what kind of cutter can I use to cut it? I have tried edsyn kp111, it to hard for kp111.
    and....how to bend it? I use a Du-Bro EZ Bender, but the wire break up every time just before it get to 90 degree.
    Have you seen litster's video?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 September 2013, 18:40:09
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 15 September 2013, 18:33:55
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 14 September 2013, 15:17:44
    just got the music wire today, 1/16" is the right size. But another question come out? what kind of cutter can I use to cut it? I have tried edsyn kp111, it to hard for kp111.
    and....how to bend it? I use a Du-Bro EZ Bender, but the wire break up every time just before it get to 90 degree.
    Have you seen litster's video?

    His video has the EZ Bender in in but metalliqaz (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48585.msg1042783#msg1042783) said its apparently too weak to bend music wire. I know he tried to bend some wire for his Epsilon project. More info can be found in that thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 15 September 2013, 18:50:49
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 15 September 2013, 18:33:55
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 14 September 2013, 15:17:44
    just got the music wire today, 1/16" is the right size. But another question come out? what kind of cutter can I use to cut it? I have tried edsyn kp111, it to hard for kp111.
    and....how to bend it? I use a Du-Bro EZ Bender, but the wire break up every time just before it get to 90 degree.
    Have you seen litster's video?
    I have seen it, and I tried the same, but mine broke every time.
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 September 2013, 18:40:09
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 15 September 2013, 18:33:55
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 14 September 2013, 15:17:44
    just got the music wire today, 1/16" is the right size. But another question come out? what kind of cutter can I use to cut it? I have tried edsyn kp111, it to hard for kp111.
    and....how to bend it? I use a Du-Bro EZ Bender, but the wire break up every time just before it get to 90 degree.
    Have you seen litster's video?

    His video has the EZ Bender in in but metalliqaz (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48585.msg1042783#msg1042783) said its apparently too weak to bend music wire. I know he tried to bend some wire for his Epsilon project. More info can be found in that thread.

    seems that mine music wire just doesn't match with the ez bender  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 September 2013, 19:50:10
    Doesn't the DuBro EZ Bender have different dies for different sizes of wire? Are you using the correct one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 15 September 2013, 20:10:18
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 September 2013, 19:50:10
    Doesn't the DuBro EZ Bender have different dies for different sizes of wire? Are you using the correct one?
    I am using the 062-.072 die
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 September 2013, 20:29:32
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 15 September 2013, 20:10:18
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 September 2013, 19:50:10
    Doesn't the DuBro EZ Bender have different dies for different sizes of wire? Are you using the correct one?
    I am using the 062-.072 die

    Well then, I got nothing. :)

    I use a vice and pliers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 15 September 2013, 20:35:00
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 September 2013, 20:29:32
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 15 September 2013, 20:10:18
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 September 2013, 19:50:10
    Doesn't the DuBro EZ Bender have different dies for different sizes of wire? Are you using the correct one?
    I am using the 062-.072 die

    Well then, I got nothing. :)

    I use a vice and pliers.

    Finally, I bend the wire to 90 degree successfully.  I found that the wire won't break if you bend it really fast.  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:02:21
    say I have a board with mx brown and I want to mod it to ergo clear, would my best/easiest option be just open up the switches and swap the stem, spring, etc?
    are the housings universal?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:07:59
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:02:21
    say I have a board with mx brown and I want to mod it to ergo clear, would my best/easiest option be just open up the switches and swap the stem, spring, etc?

    With a PCB mounted keyboard, yes, but with a plate mounted keyboard without a solderless plate you will have to desolder the switches and remove them from the plate, so it would actually be easier to swap the whole switch instead of opening each one.

    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:02:21
    are the housings universal?

    Apart from the PCB mounting pins, yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:09:40
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:02:21
    say I have a board with mx brown and I want to mod it to ergo clear, would my best/easiest option be just open up the switches and swap the stem, spring, etc?
    are the housings universal?

    You need the sliders from the clears and the springs from the browns, if I am not mistaken.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:15:28
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:02:21
    1) say I have a board with mx brown and I want to mod it to ergo clear, would my best/easiest option be just open up the switches and swap the stem, spring, etc?

    2) are the housings universal?

    1) Depends on the keyboard you have. If its plate mounted and stock or PCB mounted with LEDs you'll have to desolder the switches. If you have a custom plate that allows you to open the switches without desoldering then yes, swapping the stem and spring would be easiest. If you have a custom plate and LEDs, you'll have to desolder the LEDs. You can mod the housings to work with the custom plate and LEDs.

    2) Yes

    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:09:40
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:02:21
    say I have a board with mx brown and I want to mod it to ergo clear, would my best/easiest option be just open up the switches and swap the stem, spring, etc?
    are the housings universal?

    You need the sliders from the clears and the springs from the browns, if I am not mistaken.

    If you're doing the "traditional" ergo-clear mod then yes, this is correct. I think there's a bit of confusion with ergo-clears since some people, including myself, refer to anything that's not stock clears as ergo-clears. However, the precedent (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear) is that ergo clears are Brown/Red/Blue springs with a Clear stem. And everything else should be referred to by spring weight. For example: 55g Clears or 62g Clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:17:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:15:28
    If you're doing the "traditional" ergo-clear mod then yes, this is correct. I think there's a bit of confusion with ergo-clears since some people, including myself, refer to anything that's not stock clears as ergo-clears. However, the precedent (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear) is that ergo clears are Brown/Red/Blue springs with a Clear stem. And everything else should be referred to by spring weight. For example: 55g Clears or 62g Clears.

    Yes, it'd be better. I believe this comes from the DT wiki, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:20:07
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:17:45
    Yes, it'd be better. I believe this comes from the DT wiki, right?

    Correct.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:59:23
    aww crap, I have a QFR which means it's plate mounted.

    guess it's time to buy a soldering iron...  :rolleyes:

    people seem to be suggesting this one:
    http://www.amazon.com/Weller-WLC100-40-Watt-Soldering-Station/dp/B000AS28UC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1379358026&sr=8-4&keywords=soldering+iron

    or can I be cheap and get a cheaper one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 16 September 2013, 14:22:52
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:59:23
    guess it's time to buy a soldering iron and a desoldering iron...  :rolleyes:

    ftfy

    I have used the RadioShack desoldering iron with the built in bulb with some success. The tips wear out quickly, but it's very cheap (around $15 I think) Edit: you can also use a solder sucker for even cheaper, but I don't care for those too much. I really like my Hakko 808 but they're not cheap

    People have widely varying opinions on which soldering iron to get. Some people get by with cheap ones. Some people prefer expensive ones. I think that buying a decent iron will pay off down the road. I have been using a XYtronic 258 (http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_116572_-1) for 10 years or so, but I don't use it very often. I like it. If I had it to do over again, I'd probably buy one with a base station instead of one that has the thick heavy power cord running straight from it to the plug.

    There's a whole thread on this: Living Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.msg868507#msg868507)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 September 2013, 14:29:54
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:59:23
    guess it's time to buy a soldering iron...

    or can I be cheap and get a cheaper one?

    Issue with the Radio Shack Bulb is that the tip isn't fine enough for LED/smaller solder joints. I had to get a Soldapult, which has worked fine.

    Cheaper soldering iron would might be a Yihua 936. Follow WhiskyTango's link for more info and details.

    FWIW, I have a Radio Shack Desoldering Bulb, a Soldapult DS017, and a Hakko 936 with a Chisel Tip.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 14:30:45
    hmm... I have a solder sucker so I thought I could just use that instead of buying a desoldering iron, I guess desoldering would be much easier if I had an iron just for that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 September 2013, 14:32:34
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 14:30:45
    hmm... I have a solder sucker so I thought I could just use that instead of buying a desoldering iron, I guess desoldering would be much easier if I had an iron just for that.

    I've had HORRIBLE results with a solder sucker. Definitely spring for a Soldapult if you want to go that route. Otherwise other popular options are Hakko 808 and the Radio Shack bulb. I like the Soldapult after getting some time to practice with it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 16 September 2013, 14:36:05
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:59:23
    people seem to be suggesting this one:
    http://www.amazon.com/Weller-WLC100-40-Watt-Soldering-Station/dp/B000AS28UC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1379358026&sr=8-4&keywords=soldering+iron

    (http://madeofwynn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/picard-facepalm.jpg)

    Yihua 936 (http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__19240__Soldering_Station_with_Adjustable_Heat_Range_USA_Warehouse_.html)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 14:39:34
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 16 September 2013, 14:36:05
    Quote from: phx on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:59:23
    people seem to be suggesting this one:
    http://www.amazon.com/Weller-WLC100-40-Watt-Soldering-Station/dp/B000AS28UC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1379358026&sr=8-4&keywords=soldering+iron

    Show Image
    (http://madeofwynn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/picard-facepalm.jpg)


    Yihua 936 (http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__19240__Soldering_Station_with_Adjustable_Heat_Range_USA_Warehouse_.html)

    lol it is in the Soldering Thread....
    but damn that's a good deal, will pick that up, thanks!

    edit: bought it, and will pick up a desoldering iron and solder next time I'm at radioshack :d
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 September 2013, 14:41:47
    Quote from: dnix on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:51:09
    Any good wrist rests for smaller keyboards? 60%, TKL, HHKB, etc...

    That are available, easy to get at the current time, mind you.

    At work I just have the generic gel wrist pads they sell at Staples. At home I have a 3G gel wrist rest for my keyboard and a IMAK bead wrist rests that I bought at Amazon and MicroCenter respectively. I've heard good things about Griffiti wrist rests too.

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:43:45
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 21:40:41
    Quick question.. Where can I get dark grey / charcoal pbt?

    I know imsto has thick grey pbt but I would like something darker."


    not sure those exist, to be 100% honest

    Don't think I've ever seen this color in thick PBT either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sga101 on Mon, 16 September 2013, 15:04:17
    Is there a device which can graft on extra features like remapping and macros to an existing USB keyboard?

    Something which looks like one of those USB keyloggers perhaps?

    If not, I suspect there would be a market for it....

    Since my electronics skills are almost zero, I'm ideally looking for something that comes ready assembled.... :)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 September 2013, 16:53:45
    Quote from: sga101 on Mon, 16 September 2013, 15:04:17
    Is there a device which can graft on extra features like remapping and macros to an existing USB keyboard?

    Since my electronics skills are almost zero, I'm ideally looking for something that comes ready assembled.... :)

    Soarer converter assembled by someone in the Professional Services thread. Pro Service link in the OP. Soarer Converter is a sticked thread in Making Stuff Together.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 16 September 2013, 17:01:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 September 2013, 16:53:45
    Quote from: sga101 on Mon, 16 September 2013, 15:04:17
    Is there a device which can graft on extra features like remapping and macros to an existing USB keyboard?

    Since my electronics skills are almost zero, I'm ideally looking for something that comes ready assembled.... :)

    Soarer converter assembled by someone in the Professional Services thread. Pro Service link in the OP. Soarer Converter is a sticked thread in Making Stuff Together.

    The soarer works great if you have a PS2 keyboard. For USB, I know of the QIDO qwerty to dvorak converter. I think someone is working on usb host support, possibly hasu's tmk firmware, but it's surely in the alpha stage right now, if that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keymaster on Mon, 16 September 2013, 22:49:47
    Does anyone know what type of switch this keyboard uses? It looks like a Topre rubber cup but I've never seen this keyboard before.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Solbourne-102691-Computer-Keyboard-/261268991231

    (http://i.imgur.com/6Fl6sPN.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: loadstar81 on Mon, 16 September 2013, 22:58:49
    What combination of switch/o-ring/spring(?)/etc would give the absolute quietest setup for office use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 17 September 2013, 00:50:07
    Quote from: loadstar81 on Mon, 16 September 2013, 22:58:49
    What combination of switch/o-ring/spring(?)/etc would give the absolute quietest setup for office use?

    For MX, Browns, Clears, Reds, and Blacks will be equally loud.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 17 September 2013, 00:56:46
    Naw linear Is quieter, you can hear the actuation on clears. Get blacks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 17 September 2013, 01:01:37
    Quote from: Sifo on Tue, 17 September 2013, 00:56:46
    Naw linear Is quieter, you can hear the actuation on clears. Get blacks

    I'd call it a wash considering you'll most likely bottom out with blacks whereas you might not with clears. Even though blacks are heavy I find it really hard to not bottom out as a result of the linear-ness. The actuation on clears is really quiet anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 05:24:42
    Couple quick questions.

    1.  Which spring has the most ramp up in the spring rate?  Better way to say it which one has the highest rise in force from actuation to bottom out?

    2.  Does Teensy 2.0 firmware support function layers on a toggled switch via MX lock or any other toggled switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 17 September 2013, 05:44:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 05:24:42
    1.  Which spring has the most ramp up in the spring rate?  Better way to say it which one has the highest rise in force from actuation to bottom out?

    Looking at this this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0) I would say clear.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 05:24:42
    2.  Does Teensy 2.0 firmware support function layers on a toggled switch via MX lock or any other toggled switch?

    That depends on the firmware. I think you misunderstand how a Teensy works?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 September 2013, 06:07:17
    Quote from: loadstar81 on Mon, 16 September 2013, 22:58:49
    What combination of switch/o-ring/spring(?)/etc would give the absolute quietest setup for office use?

    Quietest switches I've ever tried: Jailhouse Blues, Matias Quiet, Topre
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 06:31:37
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 17 September 2013, 05:44:19

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 05:24:42
    2.  Does Teensy 2.0 firmware support function layers on a toggled switch via MX lock or any other toggled switch?


    That depends on the firmware. I think you misunderstand how a Teensy works?

    Nevermind, with what I was thinking the Teensy would just see it as having the button pressed for the duration of the MX lock being down as it would just close the circut until I push it again.  I think I am right on this anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:20:07
    What kind of caps are the og dolch (found on dolch keyboards)? Are they doubleshot, printed or what? Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:32:38
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:20:07
    What kind of caps are the og dolch (found on dolch keyboards)? Are they doubleshot, printed or what? Thanks

    Doubleshot thick ABS from Cherry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:57:44
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:32:38
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:20:07
    What kind of caps are the og dolch (found on dolch keyboards)? Are they doubleshot, printed or what? Thanks

    Doubleshot thick ABS from Cherry.
    No, I mean the original ones. From dolch keyboards not from sherry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:03:33
    How many leads will connect to a Teensy 2.0 hard wired matrix for a TKL layout minus the entire Esc row.  Only using 5 rows not 6.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:12:14
    Quote from: keymaster on Mon, 16 September 2013, 22:49:47
    Does anyone know what type of switch this keyboard uses? It looks like a Topre rubber cup but I've never seen this keyboard before.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Solbourne-102691-Computer-Keyboard-/261268991231

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/6Fl6sPN.jpg)

    I have no clue.  Mousefan has nothing on it.  Just looks like traditional rubber dome but still an interesting design.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:13:00
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:57:44
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:32:38
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:20:07
    What kind of caps are the og dolch (found on dolch keyboards)? Are they doubleshot, printed or what? Thanks

    Doubleshot thick ABS from Cherry.
    No, I mean the original ones. From dolch keyboards not from sherry.

    Right, as I said, doubleshot ABS from Cherry. Originative sells doubleshot ABS from GMK. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:16:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:03:33
    How many leads will connect to a Teensy 2.0 hard wired matrix for a TKL layout minus the entire Esc row.  Only using 5 rows not 6.

    16 columns and 5 rows, so 21 pins total, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:20:49
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:16:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:03:33
    How many leads will connect to a Teensy 2.0 hard wired matrix for a TKL layout minus the entire Esc row.  Only using 5 rows not 6.

    16 columns and 5 rows, so 21 pins total, right?

    Wouldn't it be 17x5?
    `, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =, Backspace, Insert, Home Page Up
    Tab
    Caps Lock
    Shift
    Ctrl.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:23:04
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:20:49
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:16:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:03:33
    How many leads will connect to a Teensy 2.0 hard wired matrix for a TKL layout minus the entire Esc row.  Only using 5 rows not 6.

    16 columns and 5 rows, so 21 pins total, right?

    Wouldn't it be 17x5?
    `, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =, Backspace, Insert, Home Page Up
    Tab
    Caps Lock
    Shift
    Ctrl.

    You are correct. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:25:20
    So where I am going with this is what I need minimum for wires in a ribbon cable for a hard wired TKL layout.  I would need 22 wires in the cable correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:36:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:25:20
    So where I am going with this is what I need minimum for wires in a ribbon cable for a hard wired TKL layout.  I would need 22 wires in the cable correct?

    At a minimum, plus another 1-3 if you use lock status LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:43:22
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:36:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:25:20
    So where I am going with this is what I need minimum for wires in a ribbon cable for a hard wired TKL layout.  I would need 22 wires in the cable correct?

    At a minimum, plus another 1-3 if you use lock status LEDs.

    Excellent thanks jd.  Now if I can just find a screw together hood for this connector that I am using for this project.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 17 September 2013, 11:08:59
    What color are stock Model M SDL cables? Are they beige/tan or grey? I've seen both, but I'm curious as to whether they might appear to be beige/tan due to being old? Or are there multiple colors of them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 11:34:26
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 17 September 2013, 11:08:59
    What color are stock Model M SDL cables? Are they beige/tan or grey? I've seen both, but I'm curious as to whether they might appear to be beige/tan due to being old? Or are there multiple colors of them?

    While I personally have not used any since high school my guess would be both beige/tan and gray.  With the gray for the industrial models that had the gray case as well.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:43:22
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:36:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:25:20
    So where I am going with this is what I need minimum for wires in a ribbon cable for a hard wired TKL layout.  I would need 22 wires in the cable correct?

    At a minimum, plus another 1-3 if you use lock status LEDs.

    Excellent thanks jd.  Now if I can just find a screw together hood for this connector that I am using for this project.

    Well couldn't find any screw together ones but I found a site that had snap together ones in black so that will work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 September 2013, 11:59:26
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:57:44
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:32:38
    Quote from: llovro on Tue, 17 September 2013, 08:20:07
    What kind of caps are the og dolch (found on dolch keyboards)? Are they doubleshot, printed or what? Thanks

    Doubleshot thick ABS from Cherry.
    No, I mean the original ones. From dolch keyboards not from sherry.

    Just FYI: Sherry is not Cherry. Sherry = Sheraton = Owner of Originativeco.com who sells GMK caps. Cherry is the keyboard/keycap company.


    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 17 September 2013, 11:08:59
    What color are stock Model M SDL cables? Are they beige/tan or grey? I've seen both, but I'm curious as to whether they might appear to be beige/tan due to being old? Or are there multiple colors of them?

    The one that came with my SSK is beige.

    Edit: The one in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_S2mYcKALY) and from ClickyKeyboards (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9417/subcatid/0/id/573456) looks beige. This one (http://pckeyboard.com/page/category/Cables) from Unicomp looks tan. Seems like there's multiple colors.

    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:12:14
    Quote from: keymaster on Mon, 16 September 2013, 22:49:47
    Does anyone know what type of switch this keyboard uses? It looks like a Topre rubber cup but I've never seen this keyboard before.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Solbourne-102691-Computer-Keyboard-/261268991231

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/6Fl6sPN.jpg)

    I have no clue.  Mousefan has nothing on it.  Just looks like traditional rubber dome but still an interesting design.

    I also don't know. If you don't get an answer soon, I'll PM haata, danielsbeardsmore, or Dorkvader.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: e4stw00t on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:14:56
    Hey dudes, just got myself a filco and recognized that the space bar sounds different when pressing it on the right end compared to the left one. It also is a bit loose on the right side, it moved a bit towards the upper end if I press the bottom right hand corner in that direction. On the left side it's rather firm and doesn't move at all. Not a deal breaker at all at that stage but just want to get some feedback from long term users if this is normal or something that worsens over time - having paid 169 € for the board I might be a bit paranoid at that stage though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:17:57
    Quote from: e4stw00t on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:14:56
    Hey dudes, just got myself a filco and recognized that the space bar sounds different when pressing it on the right end compared to the left one. It also is a bit loose on the right side, it moved a bit towards the upper end if I press the bottom right hand corner in that direction. On the left side it's rather firm and doesn't move at all. Not a deal breaker at all at that stage but just want to get some feedback from long term users if this is normal or something that worsens over time - having paid 169 € for the board I might be a bit paranoid at that stage though.

    I'm typing on a Filco and I can't replicate your issue. Take the spacebar off and see if the Costar inserts and wire are all seated correctly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:35:36
    Before (possibly never), I go towards a 60%, and as I collect keyboards, I'll be going towards TKL and slightly smaller. Of keyboards I've seen, KBT Race is one of the closest in the layout I'd like in the smallest footprint. Keycool 84 is even closer I think.

    As such, I'm keeping my eye out for unique and small layouts with arrows/6-key functionality.

    Anything with similar layout to this?:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zalman-ZM-K500-Mechanical-Keyboard-/150957596201?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2325c61e29
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:42:50
    Quote from: divito on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:35:36
    Before (possibly never), I go towards a 60%, and as I collect keyboards, I'll be going towards TKL and slightly smaller. Of keyboards I've seen, KBT Race is one of the closest in the layout I'd like in the smallest footprint.

    As such, I'm keeping my eye out for unique and small layouts with arrows/6-key functionality.

    Anything with similar layout to this?:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zalman-ZM-K500-Mechanical-Keyboard-/150957596201?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2325c61e29

    Have you considered the Filco Minila?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:50:33
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:42:50
    Have you considered the Filco Minila?

    Saw it awhile back, and it's quite close. Though I wouldn't be able to really use the space bar given my typing and where I hit the space bar, and I'd prefer 6-key not on a function layer. Will still keep it for consideration in the future, maybe simply as part of my collection.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:59:14
    Quote from: divito on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:35:36
    Anything with similar layout to this?:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zalman-ZM-K500-Mechanical-Keyboard-/150957596201?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2325c61e29

    I've never seen a layout like that, but it's just a compact tenkeyless yeah?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Tue, 17 September 2013, 18:09:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:59:14
    I've never seen a layout like that, but it's just a compact tenkeyless yeah?

    Technically, yes. Basically desire TKL functionality, without the use of a function layer, in even smaller footprints than TKL. Will plan to own the KBT Race and Keycool 84, as like I said, they're the closest to what I want short of designing my own.

    Just using the simple thread for other potential options from the vast knowledge of GH members. :DD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 September 2013, 18:19:04
    Quote from: divito on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:35:36
    Before (possibly never), I go towards a 60%, and as I collect keyboards, I'll be going towards TKL and slightly smaller. Of keyboards I've seen, KBT Race is one of the closest in the layout I'd like in the smallest footprint. Keycool 84 is even closer I think.

    As such, I'm keeping my eye out for unique and small layouts with arrows/6-key functionality.

    Anything with similar layout to this?:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zalman-ZM-K500-Mechanical-Keyboard-/150957596201?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2325c61e29

    With the right plate, you could do pretty much the same thing with a Phantom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frogamic on Tue, 17 September 2013, 18:55:52
    Is there a standard rake/incline for keyboards? I just held a protractor up to my filco and seems to be about 4 degrees but it was difficult to be accurate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 September 2013, 19:06:47
    Quote from: frogamic on Tue, 17 September 2013, 18:55:52
    Is there a standard rake/incline for keyboards? I just held a protractor up to my filco and seems to be about 4 degrees but it was difficult to be accurate.

    Think it's 9 degrees or 11 degrees.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 17 September 2013, 22:34:08
    Quote from: frogamic on Tue, 17 September 2013, 18:55:52
    Is there a standard rake/incline for keyboards? I just held a protractor up to my filco and seems to be about 4 degrees but it was difficult to be accurate.

    Based off measurements I took off my costar Das it was 10.2 degrees if I remember correctly.  I can double check when I get off work though.  And that was with the feet extended.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 17 September 2013, 22:40:31
    Filco is 5.5 with feet up, 10 with feet down.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frogamic on Tue, 17 September 2013, 23:15:45
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 17 September 2013, 22:40:31
    Filco is 5.5 with feet up, 10 with feet down.

    Thanks, just measured mine again more accurately and it was very close to 5, thought 11 sounded too much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:35:54
    How does one usually go about hunting down a KBD mania key? Only on KBD mania?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:38:42
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:35:54
    How does one usually go about hunting down a KBD mania key? Only on KBD mania?

    Ask zenuty?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:42:27
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:35:54
    How does one usually go about hunting down a KBD mania key? Only on KBD mania?

    do you have a pic?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:47:43
    Sorry I don't. I've just seen them every now and then while browsing the Media subforum and I began to get curious.

    @lcs: Good advice, if anyone on GH knows it would be him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:48:20
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:35:54
    How does one usually go about hunting down a KBD mania key? Only on KBD mania?

    I've seen a couple floating around here in the classifieds. And ray, look at the addon pack for the old Valentine's buy if you want a picture as reference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:49:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:48:20
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 18 September 2013, 15:35:54
    How does one usually go about hunting down a KBD mania key? Only on KBD mania?

    I've seen a couple floating around here in the classifieds. And ray, look at the addon pack for the old Valentine's buy if you want a picture as reference.


    Ok I didn't know if there were other KBD keys. I think I've had a few here and there in my mess of key caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MTManiac on Wed, 18 September 2013, 16:17:07
    How common are pink costar stabs?

    I decided to retrobright my 5181 and start using it and to my surprise I found pink costar stabilizers
    they may be common, but they sure surprised me!!!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 September 2013, 16:17:50
    I've never seen anything but white costar stabilizer inserts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 September 2013, 16:19:01
    Quote from: MTManiac on Wed, 18 September 2013, 16:17:07
    How common are pink costar stabs?

    I decided to retrobright my 5181 and start using it and to my surprise I found pink costar stabilizers
    they may be common, but they sure surprised me!!!



    Those aren't exactly Costar stabs. They look proprietary. But  close enough, I guess. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 September 2013, 16:21:34
    Id agree with jdcarpe
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 September 2013, 16:29:52
    I've seen pink, blueish green, and white stabs like that with Alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MTManiac on Wed, 18 September 2013, 16:47:46
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 September 2013, 16:19:01
    Quote from: MTManiac on Wed, 18 September 2013, 16:17:07
    How common are pink costar stabs?

    I decided to retrobright my 5181 and start using it and to my surprise I found pink costar stabilizers
    they may be common, but they sure surprised me!!!



    Those aren't exactly Costar stabs. They look proprietary. But  close enough, I guess. :)

    ahhh gotcha, well it would make sense in an ironic sort of way that they would be semi clones considering it came from the monterey blues era

    thanks for the clarification :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keymaster on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:10:01
    I'm trying to find the color codes from Signature Plastics for Dolch colors (DCS profile, ABS).
    Basically, I want to get four 1x blanks.

    Here is their list of colors:

    (http://www.keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/absgray.jpg)


    and here is the Dolch set:

    (http://i.imgur.com/IOeWsnV.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:17:21
    DSA Dolch (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44912.0) was in GE and GX.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:17:52
    Quote from: keymaster on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:10:01
    I'm trying to find the color codes from Signature Plastics for Dolch colors (DCS profile, ABS).
    Basically, I want to get four 1x blanks.

    Here is their list of colors:

    Show Image
    (http://www.keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/absgray.jpg)



    and here is the Dolch set:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/IOeWsnV.jpg)


    From domoaligato's GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44912.0)

    The base colors are GE and GX

    (http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9658/0hfl.png)

    And he says that the legends/letters/fonts are WFK or white. But I think OG Dolch is a lighter grey and not WFK. But since you don't care about the legends, I don't think it matters too much right?

    Edit: rowdy on that sniper flow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keymaster on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:19:09
    Thanks. You guys are awesome.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:40:34
    Rescued a space invaders type keyboard from the e-recycler today. Model # RT8Z55C+

    The cable was cut off right at the keyboard, so I will have to replace the cable. Does anyone know what type of connector this uses? I'm assuming ps/2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:49:22
    Quote from: whiskytango on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:40:34
    Rescued a space invaders type keyboard from the e-recycler today. Model # RT8Z55C+

    The cable was cut off right at the keyboard, so I will have to replace the cable. Does anyone know what type of connector this uses? I'm assuming ps/2.

    I used to have an intact one, it had an AT connector. I still have one that I also rescued from being scrapped and so it has a cut cord, will any AT connector cord suffice for replacement?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:53:19
    Quote from: whiskytango on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:40:34
    Rescued a space invaders type keyboard from the e-recycler today. Model # RT8Z55C+

    The cable was cut off right at the keyboard, so I will have to replace the cable. Does anyone know what type of connector this uses? I'm assuming ps/2.

    Think its a DIN5/AT? Same as my Siig Minitouch I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:54:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:53:19
    Quote from: whiskytango on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:40:34
    Rescued a space invaders type keyboard from the e-recycler today. Model # RT8Z55C+

    The cable was cut off right at the keyboard, so I will have to replace the cable. Does anyone know what type of connector this uses? I'm assuming ps/2.

    Think its a DIN5? Same as my Siig Minitouch I think.

    AT is the same as DIN5, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:55:27
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:54:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:53:19
    Quote from: whiskytango on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:40:34
    Rescued a space invaders type keyboard from the e-recycler today. Model # RT8Z55C+

    The cable was cut off right at the keyboard, so I will have to replace the cable. Does anyone know what type of connector this uses? I'm assuming ps/2.

    Think its a DIN5? Same as my Siig Minitouch I think.

    AT is the same as DIN5, right?

    Damn, edit wasn't fast enough. Yes, DIN5 = AT. See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_keyboard) for more details.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 18 September 2013, 18:59:24
    Why is it that when ever I am trying to find a piece for my project I can dig around on the interwebs for 3 weeks with no luck, ask here where I can find one and within an hour find it myself?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 18 September 2013, 19:01:53
    I think I know the answer but just so we're clear:

    As far as the signals go, AT=ps/2, correct? So I can take a ps/2 cable and connect the ground, +5, clock, and data wires to the respective pins of the AT connection inside the keyboard and it'll work, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 September 2013, 19:05:37
    Quote from: whiskytango on Wed, 18 September 2013, 19:01:53
    I think I know the answer but just so we're clear:

    As far as the signals go, AT=ps/2, correct? So I can take a ps/2 cable and connect the ground, +5, clock, and data wires to the respective pins of the AT connection inside the keyboard and it'll work, right?

    AT to PS/2 is just a simple pass through that you don't need any kind of adaptor for.  If the board was XT though, you'll have issues if you try to convert it to PS/2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 18 September 2013, 22:30:50
    ...just want to know that is there any step-by-step guide for the firmware of phantom?  I get stuck with it...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 06:23:43
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 18 September 2013, 22:30:50
    Is there any step-by-step guide for the firmware of phantom?

    This might be helpful (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_instruction_guide).

    Edit: Also found litster's Phantom thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26742.0;topicseen) which, like the KMAC DIY thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30875.0), should be very helpful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 September 2013, 06:46:38
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 18 September 2013, 22:30:50
    ...just want to know that is there any step-by-step guide for the firmware of phantom?  I get stuck with it...

    What llayout are you wanting etc?

    I would recommend using hasu's TMK firmware. The thread on it is here

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0

    There are many here much better than myself at explaining how to actually edit the keymap etc.

    Here was the instructions I started out with

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26742.msg664507#msg664507

    If you going to use a standard pre-built hex its just a matter of flashing a hex file to the teensy with the teensy loader I linked above.

    If you want to customize etc then you'll get into editing the keymap.
    I used the teensy loader once I got my hex file done from here

    http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/teensy.exe
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 19 September 2013, 09:19:55
    Are there any "Geek Hack" keys in circulation that would match this (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=475) for an ESC key? 

    Does not really need to be PBT but would like to be as close as I can get.  I am going to be getting my aunt and uncle mech keyboards for christmas.  This one is going to my aunt and my uncle is going to be getting a Unicomp.  I would really like to add some "Geekhack" to the boards for them and already have the "Geekhack.org" function keys for the unicomp.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 09:22:22
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 19 September 2013, 09:19:55
    Are there any "Geek Hack" keys in circulation that would match this (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=475) for an ESC key? 

    Does not really need to be PBT but would like to be as close as I can get.  I am going to be getting my aunt and uncle mech keyboards for christmas.  This one is going to my aunt and my uncle is going to be getting a Unicomp.  I would really like to add some "Geekhack" to the boards for them and already have the "Geekhack.org" function keys for the unicomp.

    Probably the Dolch colored ones or the ones from Raindrop would be your best bet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 19 September 2013, 09:25:19
    Yet once again thank you for the info CPT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 09:29:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 19 September 2013, 09:25:19
    Yet once again thank you for the info CPT.

    No problem! Happy to help.

    Also, the imsto pbt GeekHack spacebars would fit very nicely. Those are harder to find but they're around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 19 September 2013, 09:58:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 06:23:43
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 18 September 2013, 22:30:50
    Is there any step-by-step guide for the firmware of phantom?

    This might be helpful (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_instruction_guide).

    Edit: Also found litster's Phantom thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26742.0;topicseen) which, like the KMAC DIY thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30875.0), should be very helpful.
    I have looked at the deskthority , but didn't say that which one should I use.
    There have some that call phantom.c , phantomansi....and many other. So which one should I use for ansi150 layout?
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 September 2013, 06:46:38
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 18 September 2013, 22:30:50
    ...just want to know that is there any step-by-step guide for the firmware of phantom?  I get stuck with it...

    What llayout are you wanting etc?

    I would recommend using hasu's TMK firmware. The thread on it is here

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0

    There are many here much better than myself at explaining how to actually edit the keymap etc.

    Here was the instructions I started out with

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26742.msg664507#msg664507

    If you going to use a standard pre-built hex its just a matter of flashing a hex file to the teensy with the teensy loader I linked above.

    If you want to customize etc then you'll get into editing the keymap.
    I used the teensy loader once I got my hex file done from here

    http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/teensy.exe

    Seems that miss ton of step...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 11:05:07
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 19 September 2013, 09:58:11
    I have looked at the deskthority , but didn't say that which one should I use.
    There have some that call phantom.c , phantomansi....and many other. So which one should I use for ansi150 layout?

    I don't own one and I've never programmed one so I don't know. I was hoping you could figure that out with the 5 or so threads we gave you. Hopefully someone else can chime in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 19 September 2013, 12:35:48
    Does the Teensy 2.0 have the ability with any of the easily obtainable firmware to send a signal to a relay to turn 12vdc powered lighting on and off based on function layer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 19 September 2013, 12:52:10
    I'm considering investing in a TRiK V1.2 Aluminum/Acrylic keyboard from an on-going GB by Team Red Line, as it fits many of my criteria for a future keyboard (TKL, interesting case with transparent center and aluminum top/bottom, ability to add multiple colors of LEDs, etc.).  But here's a question regarding LED installation:  Resistors.  How do I go about figuring out which resistors I need for the TRiK V1.2 TKL PCB if  I'd like to add an LED to every switch?  I'm looking to use pink and orange LEDs mainly, perhaps with an odd color here and there--but mostly those two.  Is there a guide somewhere for suitable resistors for T1 LEDs and 5V voltage?  By that I mean that I don't know the proper size and resistor value range, as well as good places to buy them from.  (And finally, I can install them without specialized SMD irons, right?  Just a normal soldering iron with a fine tip would do?)

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 19 September 2013, 14:05:20
    Quote from: GeorgeStorm on Wed, 18 September 2013, 08:59:40
    Sorry I think I'm going to commit to ISO, so I'll have to pass.

    Quote from: Photoelectric on Thu, 19 September 2013, 12:52:10
    I'm considering investing in a TRiK V1.2 Aluminum/Acrylic keyboard from an on-going GB by Team Red Line, as it fits many of my criteria for a future keyboard (TKL, interesting case with transparent center and aluminum top/bottom, ability to add multiple colors of LEDs, etc.).  But here's a question regarding LED installation:  Resistors.  How do I go about figuring out which resistors I need for the TRiK V1.2 TKL PCB if  I'd like to add an LED to every switch?  I'm looking to use pink and orange LEDs mainly, perhaps with an odd color here and there--but mostly those two.  Is there a guide somewhere for suitable resistors for T1 LEDs and 5V voltage?  By that I mean that I don't know the proper size and resistor value range, as well as good places to buy them from.  (And finally, I can install them without specialized SMD irons, right?  Just a normal soldering iron with a fine tip would do?)

    Thanks!
    Start here:

    http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/ledcalc.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:32:04
    Straight up cheapest mechanical board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:36:19
    Quote from: divito on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:32:04
    Straight up cheapest mechanical board?

    Cheapest MX board I've seen was a Monoprice full size for $45 shipped.

    Cheapest Alps I've bought was an FK-2001 for $20. Ninjadoc has been buying them for $1 at e-waste recyclers. Dell AT101Ws can be super cheap too.

    Cheapest ML board I've seen was a G84-4100 for $17, which I bought.

    Cheapest Topre I've seen was a Type Heaven for $170 new and I've seen it used for as low as $120.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:44:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:36:19
    Quote from: divito on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:32:04
    Straight up cheapest mechanical board?

    Cheapest MX board I've seen was a Monoprice full size for $45 shipped.

    Cheapest Alps I've bought was an FK-2001 for $20. Ninjadoc has been buying them for $1 at e-waste recyclers. Dell AT101Ws can be super cheap too.

    Cheapest ML board I've seen was a G84-4100 for $17, which I bought.

    Cheapest Topre I've seen was a Type Heaven for $170 new and I've seen it for as low as $120.

    I know you answered the question, but a few caveats.

    For a little more than the Monoprice, you can find the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid on sale at times for $49.99 after MIR. That is probably your best "bang for the buck" MX board. I picked up a Rose will a while back when they were on sale for $25, but that will never happen again.

    The seller that had those G84-4100s is out of stock now. I don't think we will see those for $17 ever again, unfortunately. It's s great little board, though.

    For Alps clones, you can always find the Ducky 1087XM at PChome for $34 plus shipping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:44:59
    Cheapest new or used?

    I got some G80-8200huaus's from ebay for under $25 each shipped, you can get TG3 BL82 (data911) keyboards for under $30 pretty easily (I got mine for $10 shipped). An ML4101 with dyesubs was about $10, the list goes on.
    Cheap indian TVS gold keyboards are cheap, but awful.

    For new keyboards, you might want to stay away from the cheap ones, but the used market is full of good deals.

    I got my first two "vintage" honeywell hall effect keyboards for $30 or less, if I recall correctly.

    The Chery MX "ricercar" spos was I think available for $24 back in the day. Two have recently appeard on ebay. I got mine (used) for about the same. There was a "new" one for a bit more that I should have got. I'm not sure if there are more

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:44:18
    The seller that had those G84-4100s is out of stock now. I don't think we will see those for $17 ever again, unfortunately. It's s great little board, though.
    I have seen ML keyboards under $20 many times on ebay.
    Cheapest one I see right now is only $15 or best offer, though given the exorbitant shipping quote, you may have to negotiate a little with that "best offer"
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/261264448554

    Nevertheless, prices are a bit higher right now. We'll see if they go back down in a few months.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:50:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:36:19
    Quote from: divito on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:32:04
    Straight up cheapest mechanical board?

    Cheapest MX board I've seen was a Monoprice full size for $45 shipped.

    Cheapest Alps I've bought was an FK-2001 for $20. Ninjadoc has been buying them for $1 at e-waste recyclers. Dell AT101Ws can be super cheap too.

    Cheapest ML board I've seen was a G84-4100 for $17, which I bought.

    Cheapest Topre I've seen was a Type Heaven for $170 new and I've seen it used for as low as $120.

    Also the Type Heaven is priced at $150 now for a new one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:54:22
    Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:44:59
    Cheapest new or used?
    I was more so thinking of cheapest to harvest switches and/or boards to experiment with various things, whether switch mods, painting, etc... New board or used doesn't matter too much.

    Thanks everyone for your input so far!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 September 2013, 16:01:21
    Quote from: divito on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:54:22
    Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:44:59
    Cheapest new or used?
    I was more so thinking of cheapest to harvest switches and/or boards to experiment with various things, whether switch mods, painting, etc... New board or used doesn't matter too much.

    Thanks everyone for your input so far!!

    The next question will be what type of switches!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 19 September 2013, 19:12:08
    Anyone know how much voltage runs through the key matrix when a button is pushed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 19 September 2013, 23:22:52
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 September 2013, 06:46:38
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 18 September 2013, 22:30:50
    ...just want to know that is there any step-by-step guide for the firmware of phantom?  I get stuck with it...

    What llayout are you wanting etc?

    I would recommend using hasu's TMK firmware. The thread on it is here

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0

    There are many here much better than myself at explaining how to actually edit the keymap etc.

    Here was the instructions I started out with

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26742.msg664507#msg664507

    If you going to use a standard pre-built hex its just a matter of flashing a hex file to the teensy with the teensy loader I linked above.

    If you want to customize etc then you'll get into editing the keymap.
    I used the teensy loader once I got my hex file done from here

    http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/teensy.exe

    still quite confusing after reading this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0)...
    which file do I need for a ansi150 layout? or I need all of the file?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 20 September 2013, 01:59:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 19 September 2013, 19:12:08
    Anyone know how much voltage runs through the key matrix when a button is pushed?
    It's related to the amount of voltage the microcontroller wants to scan the matrix with, 5V is a common value, I think. The current is really low, milliAmps at the most. Cherry MX switches are rated for 10mA max.

    @ jonathanyu,
    THere are more than one firmware that can run on the phantom. I'm using the phantom firmware, and there is also hasu's tmk_firmware, which spamray recommended.

    The easiest is if you don't want to change the keymap from the default. If that's the case, you can often just find a precompiled firmware to run on your keyboard. Make sure you can do that first so you can test the keyboard hardware. Then, when you know that's working, then you can play with the source and building different layouts and all.

    So, if you want to go with the bpiphany phantom firmware (like what I'm using to type this post now) you can download a precompiled .dex file from his github, linked below
    https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/AVR-Keyboard/tree/master/firmwares
    phantom ansi iso or ansi iso win should work depending on what KB you made.

    so just download the hex and the teensy loader from pjrc. Plug in the keyboard, run teensy loader, press the button, select your firmware, upload it, reboot it and you should be good to go. instructions for usinmg teensy loader are included on it's page, link below
    http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/loader.html

    I didn't see any precompiled firmware for hasu's tmk_firmware, so if you can't find any, you'll need to build it from source, which I can't help you with at this time (I haven't yet done it myself!)

    Hope this helps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 20 September 2013, 09:18:22
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 20 September 2013, 01:59:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 19 September 2013, 19:12:08
    Anyone know how much voltage runs through the key matrix when a button is pushed?
    It's related to the amount of voltage the microcontroller wants to scan the matrix with, 5V is a common value, I think. The current is really low, milliAmps at the most. Cherry MX switches are rated for 10mA max.

    @ jonathanyu,
    THere are more than one firmware that can run on the phantom. I'm using the phantom firmware, and there is also hasu's tmk_firmware, which spamray recommended.

    The easiest is if you don't want to change the keymap from the default. If that's the case, you can often just find a precompiled firmware to run on your keyboard. Make sure you can do that first so you can test the keyboard hardware. Then, when you know that's working, then you can play with the source and building different layouts and all.

    So, if you want to go with the bpiphany phantom firmware (like what I'm using to type this post now) you can download a precompiled .dex file from his github, linked below
    https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/AVR-Keyboard/tree/master/firmwares
    phantom ansi iso or ansi iso win should work depending on what KB you made.

    so just download the hex and the teensy loader from pjrc. Plug in the keyboard, run teensy loader, press the button, select your firmware, upload it, reboot it and you should be good to go. instructions for usinmg teensy loader are included on it's page, link below
    http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/loader.html

    I didn't see any precompiled firmware for hasu's tmk_firmware, so if you can't find any, you'll need to build it from source, which I can't help you with at this time (I haven't yet done it myself!)

    Hope this helps

    There is ansi_iso_jis, ansi_iso, ansi_iso_win.  What is the different between them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 September 2013, 10:07:44
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 20 September 2013, 09:18:22
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 20 September 2013, 01:59:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 19 September 2013, 19:12:08
    Anyone know how much voltage runs through the key matrix when a button is pushed?
    It's related to the amount of voltage the microcontroller wants to scan the matrix with, 5V is a common value, I think. The current is really low, milliAmps at the most. Cherry MX switches are rated for 10mA max.

    @ jonathanyu,
    THere are more than one firmware that can run on the phantom. I'm using the phantom firmware, and there is also hasu's tmk_firmware, which spamray recommended.

    The easiest is if you don't want to change the keymap from the default. If that's the case, you can often just find a precompiled firmware to run on your keyboard. Make sure you can do that first so you can test the keyboard hardware. Then, when you know that's working, then you can play with the source and building different layouts and all.

    So, if you want to go with the bpiphany phantom firmware (like what I'm using to type this post now) you can download a precompiled .dex file from his github, linked below
    https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/AVR-Keyboard/tree/master/firmwares
    phantom ansi iso or ansi iso win should work depending on what KB you made.

    so just download the hex and the teensy loader from pjrc. Plug in the keyboard, run teensy loader, press the button, select your firmware, upload it, reboot it and you should be good to go. instructions for usinmg teensy loader are included on it's page, link below
    http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/loader.html

    I didn't see any precompiled firmware for hasu's tmk_firmware, so if you can't find any, you'll need to build it from source, which I can't help you with at this time (I haven't yet done it myself!)

    Hope this helps

    There is ansi_iso_jis, ansi_iso, ansi_iso_win.  What is the different between them?

    This discussion is really beyond the scope of this thread. And I see you already opened a new thread about this. Where you really should be asking these questions is in this thread: Building Phantom Hardware and Firmware Mods (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26742.0).

    Hope this helps!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:36:41
    Is there a list of people who offer assembly services somewhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:37:36
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:36:41
    Is there a list of people who offer assembly services somewhere?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:39:00
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:37:36
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:36:41
    Is there a list of people who offer assembly services somewhere?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0

    Whoops, totally didn't see that when I checked in the Classifieds. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 21 September 2013, 08:49:33
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:36:41
    Is there a list of people who offer assembly services somewhere?

    There's also a link to this list in the OP
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 21 September 2013, 15:29:31
    Thank you everyone that help me with the firmware, it seems working right now!  :thumb:
    But...another question come up, my phantom is just crazy.  It start typing random things when I plug it into my computer.  :confused:
    Here is a quick video of what is happening

    In the video, I didn't touch the pcb at all, but it just typing random things.  Anyone know that this is a software problem or hardware problem?
    I have used MG Chemicals 413B Heavy Duty Flux Remover (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DNQWV0/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) to remove the flux that on the pcb.  So did I kill my board accidentally?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 September 2013, 13:45:55
    Had this happen on my pure once. Something was shorting out on the PCB and caused my computer to go crazy. I put a bit of drawer liner between the PCB and case and it stopped. Maybe you bridged something. But again, this isnt a troubleshooting thread and isnt a simple question/answer. Go port this to another thread please.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Sun, 22 September 2013, 14:38:36
    I'm trying to lube/sticker my switches, I cannot for the life of me to put on the sticker right... I got a set of originative.
    the middle square of the sticker comes off I assume? but where do you stick the sticker on? what orientation?

    also, you are not suppose to lube the metal contact point? just the sides and 2 ends of the spring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 22 September 2013, 15:05:52
    Quote from: phx on Sun, 22 September 2013, 14:38:36
    I'm trying to lube/sticker my switches, I cannot for the life of me to put on the sticker right... I got a set of originative.
    the middle square of the sticker comes off I assume? but where do you stick the sticker on? what orientation?

    also, you are not suppose to lube the metal contact point? just the sides and 2 ends of the spring?

    1) See the sticker GB thread
    2) See the switch lube HOWTO thread

    seriously
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Sun, 22 September 2013, 15:13:33
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Sun, 22 September 2013, 15:05:52
    Quote from: phx on Sun, 22 September 2013, 14:38:36
    I'm trying to lube/sticker my switches, I cannot for the life of me to put on the sticker right... I got a set of originative.
    the middle square of the sticker comes off I assume? but where do you stick the sticker on? what orientation?

    also, you are not suppose to lube the metal contact point? just the sides and 2 ends of the spring?

    1) See the sticker GB thread
    2) See the switch lube HOWTO thread

    seriously

    the lube howto thread doesnt say why he doesnt lube the metal bit.

    and yes I found guide on stickers, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU WERE VERY HELPFUL
    ...

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46665.msg992036#msg992036
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 23 September 2013, 04:49:24
    Do I need to obtain permission to have imsto make a certain color combo for "Geek Hack" keys?  If so, who would I contact about that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 September 2013, 06:34:29
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 23 September 2013, 04:49:24
    Do I need to obtain permission to have imsto make a certain color combo for "Geek Hack" keys?  If so, who would I contact about that?

    You don't *need* permission to do things with the GeekHack logo but mkawa, hashbaz, and the admins/mods appreciate it if you give them a heads up. PM mkawa.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 23 September 2013, 06:42:41
    sounds good CPT will do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 24 September 2013, 08:53:22
    anyone happen to know the size/specs of the diode/led the QFR uses (i think all boards use the same size?)? Looking to purchase some different colors.

    thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:20:57
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 24 September 2013, 08:53:22
    anyone happen to know the size/specs of the diode/led the QFR uses (i think all boards use the same size?)? Looking to purchase some different colors.

    I'm not sure exactly what the QFR uses but I think if you just grab 2x3x4mm Square LEDs as shown in the link in the OP, you should be fine. Can anyone else verify this? I've never had an issue with LEDs. I've tossed those 2x3x4mm into the TechKeys business card and the Razer Orbweaver, as well as my KMAC, with no issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:26:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:20:57
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 24 September 2013, 08:53:22
    anyone happen to know the size/specs of the diode/led the QFR uses (i think all boards use the same size?)? Looking to purchase some different colors.

    I'm not sure exactly what the QFR uses but I think if you just grab 2x3x4mm Square LEDs as shown in the link in the OP, you should be fine. Can anyone else verify this? I've never had an issue with LEDs. I've tossed those 2x3x4mm into the TechKeys business card and the Razer Orbweaver, as well as my KMAC, with no issues.

    i want to flip the switch upside down, but of course I can't change the PCB so I was thinking maybe I can get a LED with uber long legs(?) and bend it around underneath the switch. has anyone tried this before?

    and thx for the links!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:32:21
    If you want to put an LED on a board that doesn't have traces for it, it can be done but would be a huge pain for an entire board.  See the bottom link in my signature for how i did it to my costar Das.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:35:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:32:21
    If you want to put an LED on a board that doesn't have traces for it, it can be done but would be a huge pain for an entire board.  See the bottom link in my signature for how i did it to my costar Das.

    wow the harddrive led is friken AWESOME!

    the modification I had in mind is a lot simpler
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:36:24
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:26:11
    i want to flip the switch upside down, but of course I can't change the PCB so I was thinking maybe I can get a LED with uber long legs(?) and bend it around underneath the switch. has anyone tried this before?

    and thx for the links!

    You can always use jumper wire or use old clipped LED legs and just solder them on to make your own legs. Sifo has done it on his GON board and the Duck Mini2 will need you to bend the LED around so that you can light up the Matias Alps switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:39:05
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:35:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:32:21
    If you want to put an LED on a board that doesn't have traces for it, it can be done but would be a huge pain for an entire board.  See the bottom link in my signature for how i did it to my costar Das.

    wow the harddrive led is friken AWESOME!

    the modification I had in mind is a lot simpler

    Thanks, I still haven't seen anyone else do that mod yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 24 September 2013, 21:17:39
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:50:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:36:19
    Quote from: divito on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:32:04
    Straight up cheapest mechanical board?

    Cheapest MX board I've seen was a Monoprice full size for $45 shipped.

    Cheapest Alps I've bought was an FK-2001 for $20. Ninjadoc has been buying them for $1 at e-waste recyclers. Dell AT101Ws can be super cheap too.

    Cheapest ML board I've seen was a G84-4100 for $17, which I bought.

    Cheapest Topre I've seen was a Type Heaven for $170 new and I've seen it used for as low as $120.

    Also the Type Heaven is priced at $150 now for a new one.

    How good is the quality of the type heaven compared to regular mechanicals?

    I'm really on the fence for a board, and topres seem like the fit all solution
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 24 September 2013, 21:17:48
    Can't seem to find the tidbit of information... can someone tell me what size/value whatever of diode that fits inside the MX switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 September 2013, 21:33:52
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 24 September 2013, 21:17:39
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:50:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:36:19
    Quote from: divito on Thu, 19 September 2013, 15:32:04
    Straight up cheapest mechanical board?

    Cheapest MX board I've seen was a Monoprice full size for $45 shipped.

    Cheapest Alps I've bought was an FK-2001 for $20. Ninjadoc has been buying them for $1 at e-waste recyclers. Dell AT101Ws can be super cheap too.

    Cheapest ML board I've seen was a G84-4100 for $17, which I bought.

    Cheapest Topre I've seen was a Type Heaven for $170 new and I've seen it used for as low as $120.

    Also the Type Heaven is priced at $150 now for a new one.

    How good is the quality of the type heaven compared to regular mechanicals?

    I'm really on the fence for a board, and topres seem like the fit all solution

    Obviously its no realforce but I didn't think it was all that bad. I'm sure the key cap legends could be an issue eventually.

    If you want budget topre its great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 25 September 2013, 00:29:25
    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 24 September 2013, 21:17:48
    Can't seem to find the tidbit of information... can someone tell me what size/value whatever of diode that fits inside the MX switch?

    I think everyone uses a standard 1N4148, DO-35 should fit, but I'm not 100% sure on the physical size.
    Here's a chart of diode sizes if you have a cherry switch handy, and want to measure between the two diode stanchions
    http://www.topline.tv/DO.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gunmetal on Wed, 25 September 2013, 14:00:10
    Does an aluminum case affect typing feel or sound and if so, how so?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 September 2013, 14:05:00
    Quote from: gunmetal on Wed, 25 September 2013, 14:00:10
    Does an aluminum case affect typing
    1)feel
    2)sound

    Yes to both, in my opinion.

    1) It feels more solid and weighty, like the keyboard is planted firmly in place.
    2) The clicky switches aren't as loud since the sound doesn't resonate as much through the case. Check out the last video in mashby's review of an AT F (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42802.msg1052857#msg1052857)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fragil1ty on Thu, 26 September 2013, 11:29:35
    Does anyone know the expected delivery time on the Expedited Shipping option that Qtan uses on his website?

    e.g. 5-7 days, 7-14 days and so on? I couldn't see anything about it on my order form and I just want to know the 'typical' shipping time before I get anxious about it not being here and what not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 September 2013, 11:34:08
    Quote from: Fragil1ty on Thu, 26 September 2013, 11:29:35
    Does anyone know the expected delivery time on the Expedited Shipping option that Qtan uses on his website?

    e.g. 5-7 days, 7-14 days and so on? I couldn't see anything about it on my order form and I just want to know the 'typical' shipping time before I get anxious about it not being here and what not.

    I've never ordered anything from qtan but I will say that the items that Shadovved has sent me from Singapore has come in ten days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhineasRex on Thu, 26 September 2013, 21:49:48
    Is there a list somewhere of keyboards that have a correctly-placed control key (where the caps lock key is on most boards) or can switch control and caps lock via DIP switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 September 2013, 21:53:11
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 26 September 2013, 21:49:48
    Is there a list somewhere of keyboards that have a correctly-placed control key (where the caps lock key is on most boards) or can switch control and caps lock via DIP switch?

    HHKB and KMAC Happy off the top of my head. Any programmable board like an LZ, KMAC, or a GON should let you program a layout however you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 26 September 2013, 21:58:46
    Ducky 9008G2 Pro does it. Maybe other Duckys do too?

    Source: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45051.msg938640#msg938640 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45051.msg938640#msg938640)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 26 September 2013, 22:46:02
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 26 September 2013, 21:49:48
    Is there a list somewhere of keyboards that have a correctly-placed control key (where the caps lock key is on most boards) or can switch control and caps lock via DIP switch?

    HHKB, Realforce, KMAC2, The ducky pro mentioned above, Leopold FC700R, Any fully programmable board.  This is an incomplete list.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 26 September 2013, 23:34:08
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 26 September 2013, 22:46:02
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 26 September 2013, 21:49:48
    Is there a list somewhere of keyboards that have a correctly-placed control key (where the caps lock key is on most boards) or can switch control and caps lock via DIP switch?

    HHKB, Realforce, KMAC2, The ducky pro mentioned above, Leopold FC700R, Any fully programmable board.  This is an incomplete list.

    KMAC is programmable, and features a working capslock LED on the bottom rightmost switch, phantom is programmable as well.

    I believe poker and poker2 have dipswitches for that functionality. Possibly the PURE as well (I'll have to go get my manual again.)
    WYSE and SUN keyboard too ofcourse.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Fri, 27 September 2013, 05:25:27
    My new Filco TKL with blues is very scratchy and gives off an inconsistent click between different keys.  Is this something you guys have experienced before?  I know for sure my friend's blackwidow didn't feel this scratchy!

    How do I fix this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 05:45:31
    Quote from: goobus on Fri, 27 September 2013, 05:25:27
    My new Filco TKL with blues is very scratchy and gives off an inconsistent click between different keys.  Is this something you guys have experienced before?

    How do I fix this?

    Did you *just* get it? Give it some time to break in. If it really bothers you, just change out the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Fri, 27 September 2013, 05:58:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 05:45:31
    Quote from: goobus on Fri, 27 September 2013, 05:25:27
    My new Filco TKL with blues is very scratchy and gives off an inconsistent click between different keys.  Is this something you guys have experienced before?

    How do I fix this?

    Did you *just* get it? Give it some time to break in. If it really bothers you, just change out the switches.

    Yep, completely brand new!  I'm just a little disappointed because the blackwidow I tried in stores feels much smoother (but maybe because they are older and broken in).  Thanks for the reply.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 06:07:06
    My experience with brand new keyboards is that they all feel a little off at first. Maybe the stems still have mold marks or flash from the factory or the springs are just really stiff still. Type on it for like a week and see how it feels then. If it's still terrible, definitely try and return it or swap out the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 27 September 2013, 08:18:52
    is there a way in autohotkey to set up a macro to toggle the right mouse click?  When I am playing WoW almost 99% of the time I am in combat (raiding mostly) I have the right mouse button held down for circle strafing.  I want to be able to hit say Ctrl+right mouse click and toggle it on until I hit that key combo again or just a reg mouse click to turn it off.  Is this beyond the realm of what AHK can do? 

    Or should I make a new thread for this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Fri, 27 September 2013, 09:04:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 06:07:06
    My experience with brand new keyboards is that they all feel a little off at first. Maybe the stems still have mold marks or flash from the factory or the springs are just really stiff still. Type on it for like a week and see how it feels then. If it's still terrible, definitely try and return it or swap out the switches.

    Thanks. I'll try to be patient with my Filco.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 09:06:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 27 September 2013, 08:18:52
    is there a way in autohotkey to set up a macro to toggle the right mouse click?  When I am playing WoW almost 99% of the time I am in combat (raiding mostly) I have the right mouse button held down for circle strafing.  I want to be able to hit say Ctrl+right mouse click and toggle it on until I hit that key combo again or just a reg mouse click to turn it off.  Is this beyond the realm of what AHK can do? 

    Or should I make a new thread for this?

    I don't have a clue how AHK cans or its capabilities. Hang out here, it seems like an easy question: How to toggle right click in AHK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Fri, 27 September 2013, 09:23:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 27 September 2013, 08:18:52
    is there a way in autohotkey to set up a macro to toggle the right mouse click?  When I am playing WoW almost 99% of the time I am in combat (raiding mostly) I have the right mouse button held down for circle strafing.  I want to be able to hit say Ctrl+right mouse click and toggle it on until I hit that key combo again or just a reg mouse click to turn it off.  Is this beyond the realm of what AHK can do? 

    Or should I make a new thread for this?

    I haven't played WoW for over a year, but try this.

    ^RButton::

       hold:= Not hold   ; toggle hold flag

       If hold

          {

           Click down    ; presses the right button

           ToolTip Toggle ON

          }

       else

          {

           Click up      ; releases the right button

           ToolTip Toggle OFF

          }

       return
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 27 September 2013, 10:35:55
    Quote from: Larken on Fri, 27 September 2013, 09:23:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 27 September 2013, 08:18:52
    is there a way in autohotkey to set up a macro to toggle the right mouse click?  When I am playing WoW almost 99% of the time I am in combat (raiding mostly) I have the right mouse button held down for circle strafing.  I want to be able to hit say Ctrl+right mouse click and toggle it on until I hit that key combo again or just a reg mouse click to turn it off.  Is this beyond the realm of what AHK can do? 

    Or should I make a new thread for this?

    I haven't played WoW for over a year, but try this.

    ^RButton::

       hold:= Not hold   ; toggle hold flag

       If hold

          {

           Click down    ; presses the right button

           ToolTip Toggle ON

          }

       else

          {

           Click up      ; releases the right button

           ToolTip Toggle OFF

          }

       return

    will give that a shot

    also quick question how do I get rid of the [/color] and get the last link in my signature to show the same color as the rest of my signature  here is what I have in that field

    [color =#5CC3FF]Costar Das, Razer Orbweaver modded to clears and reds with blue LEDs, and Razer Naga Epic.  [url =http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49067.0]My meat and cheese smoking guide[/url]
    [url =http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43241.0][color =#5CC3FF]HD LED on my Das III
    [ur l=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49028.0]Brushed Behemoth build log[/url]
    [/color]

    Added spaces in the coding to show the coding.  Do I just need to add the color one after the last [ hr]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 27 September 2013, 10:41:37
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:35:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:32:21
    If you want to put an LED on a board that doesn't have traces for it, it can be done but would be a huge pain for an entire board.  See the bottom link in my signature for how i did it to my costar Das.

    wow the harddrive led is friken AWESOME!

    the modification I had in mind is a lot simpler

    You can't just turn switches around all willy nilly as you please. I see what you're saying with your image, but not only does the PCB have holes for the LED in a certain place, but the contacts for the switch itself are set on one side of the switch. So you're talking about having four different wires criss-crossing under this switch (two for the LED, and two for the switch itself).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 10:42:04
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 27 September 2013, 10:35:55
    also quick question how do I get rid of the [/color] and get the last link in my signature to show the same color as the rest of my signature  here is what I have in that field

    [color =#5CC3FF][/b]Costar Das, Razer Orbweaver modded to clears and reds with blue LEDs, and Razer Naga Epic.  [url =http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49067.0]My meat and cheese smoking guide[/url]
    [url =http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43241.0][color =#5CC3FF][/size]HD LED on my Das III
    [ur l=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49028.0]Brushed Behemoth build log[/url]
    [/color][/b]

    Added spaces in the coding to show the coding.  Do I just need to add the color one after the last [ hr]

    You have an open color and no closed color. So each [color] needs a matching [/color]. Either elminate one of the color codes or add another [/color]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 27 September 2013, 10:46:51
    Code: [Select]
    [color=#5CC3FF]Costar Das, Razer Orbweaver modded to clears and reds with blue LEDs, and Razer Naga Epic.[/color][hr][color=#5CC3FF][url=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49067.0]My meat and cheese smoking guide[/url][/color][hr][color=#5CC3FF][url=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43241.0]HD LED on my Das III[/url][/color][hr][color=#5CC3FF][url=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49028.0]Brushed Behemoth build log[/url][/color]
    Costar Das, Razer Orbweaver modded to clears and reds with blue LEDs, and Razer Naga Epic.
    My meat and cheese smoking guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49067.0)
    HD LED on my Das III (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43241.0)
    Brushed Behemoth build log (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49028.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 27 September 2013, 10:56:15
    Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 27 September 2013, 10:46:51
    Code: [Select]
    [color=#5CC3FF]Costar Das, Razer Orbweaver modded to clears and reds with blue LEDs, and Razer Naga Epic.[/color][hr][color=#5CC3FF][url=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49067.0]My meat and cheese smoking guide[/url][/color][hr][color=#5CC3FF][url=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43241.0]HD LED on my Das III[/url][/color][hr][color=#5CC3FF][url=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49028.0]Brushed Behemoth build log[/url][/color]
    Costar Das, Razer Orbweaver modded to clears and reds with blue LEDs, and Razer Naga Epic.
    My meat and cheese smoking guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49067.0)
    HD LED on my Das III (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43241.0)
    Brushed Behemoth build log (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49028.0)

    Excellent thanks guys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:44:04
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?

    Bumblebee from Keypop (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46824.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:51:05
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?

    school bus?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 14:47:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:44:04
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?

    Bumblebee from Keypop (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46824.0)
    Any other? Or anyplace I can buy a plain black on yellow keyset (Pref with tsangan) just not pad printed please.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:51:05
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?

    school bus?


    You smart-ass  :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 14:49:56
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 14:47:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:44:04
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?

    Bumblebee from Keypop (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46824.0)
    Any other? Or anyplace I can buy a plain black on yellow keyset (Pref with tsangan) just not pad printed please.

    Only set that springs to mind is the ones at EK which are pad printed and no Tsangan. You can always try looking at these vendors (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45672.0) or searching Taobao. Or you can see what blank caps SP has for sale.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 14:51:04
    I knew you'd say taht is why I added the pad printing comment. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 14:51:52
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 14:51:04
    I knew you'd say taht is why I added the pad printing comment. :P

    If I knew more I wouldve said so before. That's all I got. Maybe someone else knows but I haven't seen many yellow themed sets besides TaiHao and Bumblebee.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 27 September 2013, 14:54:37
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 14:47:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:44:04
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?

    Bumblebee from Keypop (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46824.0)
    Any other? Or anyplace I can buy a plain black on yellow keyset (Pref with tsangan) just not pad printed please.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:51:05
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?

    school bus?


    You smart-ass  :p

    I thought you wanted matching keys for the acrylic top your working on or something :p

    And I don't know of any other sets with those colors that have been done either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 September 2013, 00:13:55
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?

    There is a Filco set that is black on yellow.  Didn't know they exsisted until right now. Stock Filco caps so OEM profile and their font. Don't know where you can get them now. The ones Im holding were from the classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 28 September 2013, 01:58:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 September 2013, 00:13:55
    Quote from: MOZ on Fri, 27 September 2013, 13:41:51
    Are there any black on yellow or any color on yellow key sets besides the Tai Hao and Turtle set?

    There is a Filco set that is black on yellow.  Didn't know they exsisted until right now. Stock Filco caps so OEM profile and their font. Don't know where you can get them now. The ones Im holding were from the classifieds.


    There was a place that was selling just the keycaps - someone sent me the link a year or so ago when I was searching for a set.

    The only other way is buy a board and salvage the key caps (and maybe on-sell the board if anyone wants a keycap-less Filco).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: e4stw00t on Sat, 28 September 2013, 05:37:18
    Did run in a odd thing today. PC booted twice before actually making it to Windows. Thereafter my Filco didn't work anymore using the PS/2 port. It works instantly when I switch to USB though. I am aware that PS/2 isn't hot plugged but whenever I switch to the port the LEDs on my keyboard flash for a second or two, but still it's not working no matter what I tried so far (uninstalling the USB keyboard, rebooting connected to the PS/2 port). I can't get Windows to reinstall the PS/2 drivers from the device manager and it also doesn't work automatically after reboot. Kind of lost on that one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Sat, 28 September 2013, 22:16:57
    Has anyone ever modified Cherry stabilizers to feel slightly less mushy?  Per this video:

    How safe is this?  Is there any other way to do it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 September 2013, 22:26:23
    Quote from: goobus on Sat, 28 September 2013, 22:16:57
    Has anyone ever modified Cherry stabilizers to feel slightly less mushy?  Per this video:

    How safe is this?  Is there any other way to do it?

    Works great for me. Have it on my KMAC. Love how it feels. No other way to do it and its honestly very simple.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 28 September 2013, 22:26:52
    Where can I find the lubing topre thread?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Sat, 28 September 2013, 22:42:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 September 2013, 22:26:23
    Quote from: goobus on Sat, 28 September 2013, 22:16:57
    Has anyone ever modified Cherry stabilizers to feel slightly less mushy?  Per this video:

    How safe is this?  Is there any other way to do it?

    Works great for me. Have it on my KMAC. Love how it feels. No other way to do it and its honestly very simple.

    Very reassuring words ^^ can't wait to do it on my FC700R and KMAC!!! Thank you!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 29 September 2013, 01:01:18
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 28 September 2013, 22:26:52
    Where can I find the lubing topre thread?



    Is it this one? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47185.msg1002826

    Or this one? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35570.msg661248
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 September 2013, 03:01:16
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 29 September 2013, 01:01:18
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 28 September 2013, 22:26:52
    Where can I find the lubing topre thread?



    Is it this one? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47185.msg1002826

    Or this one? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35570.msg661248

    I think I was looking for the first one. Thanks rowdy!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:12:08
    What kind of wire should I use for direct wiring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:57:25
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:12:08
    What kind of wire should I use for direct wiring?

    I always use telecom cross connect wire, because I have a 1000' spool of it. It's basically just 24AWG solid copper wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 September 2013, 18:41:42
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:57:25
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:12:08
    What kind of wire should I use for direct wiring?

    I always use telecom cross connect wire, because I have a 1000' spool of it. It's basically just 24AWG solid copper wire.

    like this

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-1000-ROLL-1-PAIR-2-WIRE-CROSS-CONNECT-CABLE-24-AWG-SOLID-COPPER-GREEN-WHITE-/360408809251
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 29 September 2013, 19:39:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 September 2013, 18:41:42
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:57:25
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:12:08
    What kind of wire should I use for direct wiring?

    I always use telecom cross connect wire, because I have a 1000' spool of it. It's basically just 24AWG solid copper wire.

    like this

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-1000-ROLL-1-PAIR-2-WIRE-CROSS-CONNECT-CABLE-24-AWG-SOLID-COPPER-GREEN-WHITE-/360408809251

    Yes, that's the stuff. You actually get 2000' of wire, since it's twisted pair. :)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 September 2013, 19:43:38
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 29 September 2013, 19:39:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 September 2013, 18:41:42
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:57:25
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:12:08
    What kind of wire should I use for direct wiring?

    I always use telecom cross connect wire, because I have a 1000' spool of it. It's basically just 24AWG solid copper wire.

    like this

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-1000-ROLL-1-PAIR-2-WIRE-CROSS-CONNECT-CABLE-24-AWG-SOLID-COPPER-GREEN-WHITE-/360408809251

    Yes, that's the stuff. You actually get 2000' of wire, since it's twisted pair. :)



    I wonder if anyone else would want some I could buy a spool and split it up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 30 September 2013, 08:42:15
    How do you turn on Num Lock on a SSK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 30 September 2013, 08:43:17
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 30 September 2013, 08:42:15
    How do you turn on Num Lock on a SSK?

    Shift-ScrLk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 30 September 2013, 08:46:52
    Yeah... that doesn't seem to be working for me. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:09:27
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 30 September 2013, 08:43:17
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 30 September 2013, 08:42:15
    How do you turn on Num Lock on a SSK?

    Shift-ScrLk

    Maybe it's Alt + Scroll Lock? That's Dorkvader's suggestion at least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:12:53
    I tried Alt, Ctrl, and Shift. I tried Caps+Num. I tried Esc+Num. Nothing. I'll take the keyboard home and try it on another computer. Everything else works perfectly except for that. I thought turning on Num with another keyboard would work, but it didn't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:14:16
    I was guessing from memory. My brief search on it suggests that it should be right shift + scroll lock
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41977.msg842647#msg842647 (samwisekoi commenting on tenkeys)
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48823.msg1050118#msg1050118 (cgbuen asking about the numpad layer)

    Are you quite sure it's an SSK controller PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:14:54
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:12:53
    I tried Alt, Ctrl, and Shift. I tried Caps+Num. I tried Esc+Num. Nothing. I'll take the keyboard home and try it on another computer. Everything else works perfectly except for that. I thought turning on Num with another keyboard would work, but it didn't.

    Pretty sure that's what I did on my SSK, I used a different keyboard to toggle num lock. But my memory might be a little fuzzy.

    Let me know if it works for you, otherwise I'll keep hunting for an answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:16:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:14:16
    Are you quite sure it's an SSK controller PCB?

    I'm not sure at all. I purchased a "SSK", so I should hope so...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 30 September 2013, 16:33:18
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:16:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:14:16
    Are you quite sure it's an SSK controller PCB?

    I'm not sure at all. I purchased a "SSK", so I should hope so...
    There is a chance it's a "normal" model M controller. I'm not too familiar with the visual differences, but If you can open up the KB and post a picture of yours, I'm happy to compare to the SSK controller I'm currently working on. I'll post a picture of it as well, provided the owner gives their permission.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 September 2013, 16:37:19
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 30 September 2013, 16:33:18
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:16:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 30 September 2013, 14:14:16
    Are you quite sure it's an SSK controller PCB?

    I'm not sure at all. I purchased a "SSK", so I should hope so...
    There is a chance it's a "normal" model M controller. I'm not too familiar with the visual differences, but If you can open up the KB and post a picture of yours, I'm happy to compare to the SSK controller I'm currently working on. I'll post a picture of it as well, provided the owner gives their permission.


    If you're referring to my SSK dorkvader, I don't mind you taking pictures. If it was a Model M controller, how would you enable num lock? Obviously the SSK doesn't have the switch to press like a Model M but maybe there's a layered command (ALT + M for example) that would enable it? I know moose tried a ton of other combos before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlackWidowMan777 on Tue, 01 October 2013, 02:35:49
    I just received two Aron 106 Alps keyboards from China, but the two keys on either side of the spacebar are printed in Korean.

    Does anybody know what these two keys do or can anybody who can read Korean tell me what they say?

    Considering the extremely cheap price, they feel surprisingly good to type on and are quite solid feeling (especially the non-tactile one, which is silky smooth).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 01 October 2013, 06:42:09
    i ask again ;D
    This
    http://imgur.com/ynhSQLU
    http://i.imgur.com/cxOqUvo.png?1
    in here, i ask
    1.what dimesion holes square(white)
    2.how much spacing (Red)
    3.how to size screw regulary?
    4.any idea place for teensy particular

    Thanks very much
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 06:53:50
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 01 October 2013, 06:42:09
    i ask again ;D
    This
    http://imgur.com/ynhSQLU
    http://i.imgur.com/cxOqUvo.png?1
    in here, i ask
    1.what dimesion holes square(white)
    2.how much spacing (Red)
    3.how to size screw regulary?
    4.any idea place for teensy particular

    Thanks very much

    1) Information is in the original/first post and in the CAD resources thread in Making Stuff Together.
    2) Information is in the original/first post and in the CAD resources thread in Making Stuff Together.
    3) I'm actually not sure about this. Forget the KMAC screw size but the LZ-GH used M3 6MM screws. Those were too small for use in my KMAC>
    4) You could make a standoff like melvang did, buy a small housing for it and attach it to the cable, or hide it inside your case. You can check the teensy/adapter thread Soarer has for ideas. It's a stickied thread in Making Stuff Together.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 01 October 2013, 07:39:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 06:53:50
    1) Information is in the original/first post and in the CAD resources thread in Making Stuff Together.
    1.I want square regular like matte3o plate
    This
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7818xtw054jrhue/MXSwitchCuouts.png (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7818xtw054jrhue/MXSwitchCuouts.png)
    For width 0.6140 or 0.5500 fit cherry mx not easily loose :))

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 07:53:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 01 October 2013, 07:39:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 06:53:50
    1) Information is in the original/first post and in the CAD resources thread in Making Stuff Together.
    1.I want square regular like matte3o plate
    This
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7818xtw054jrhue/MXSwitchCuouts.png (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7818xtw054jrhue/MXSwitchCuouts.png)
    For width 0.6140 or 0.5500 fit cherry mx not easily loose :))

    Thanks

    You can figure out the square from that picture...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gameaholic on Tue, 01 October 2013, 08:46:39
    I'm ordering an aluminum case in black.  How would I go about re-anodizing it in the future if I want it in titanium or silver?  And just wondering what about gold plating?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 08:47:30
    Quote from: gameaholic on Tue, 01 October 2013, 08:46:39
    I'm ordering an aluminum case in black.  How would I go about re-anodizing it in the future if I want it in titanium or silver?  And just wondering what about gold plating?

    You'd have to find a shop to do anodization. Most likely have to do the same thing for gold plating.

    Edit: There are home kits for anodization but they're expensive and deal with very nasty chemicals. Apparently the gold plating isn't as hard but I'm not as well versed on that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 09:29:44
    Could a SDL cable make the difference between Num Lock working and not? The person who sold me the SSK said that the Num Lock worked, and I'm leaning towards believing him. But I took it home yesterday and plugged it into another computer, and nothing...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 10:17:40
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 09:29:44
    Could a SDL cable make the difference between Num Lock working and not?

    Couldn't hurt to swap in a new one....wish I had my SSK to help test out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 10:18:59
    The one I bought was brand new. But I'm wondering if maybe the cable from an SSK is necessary for it to work as an SSK? Maybe the cable I bought is for a regular Model M?

    But then, people have purchased Orihalcon's cable for both, and they don't differentiate between SSK or regular M...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 10:22:01
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 10:18:59
    The one I bought was brand new. But I'm wondering if maybe the cable from an SSK is necessary for it to work as an SSK? Maybe the cable I bought is for a regular Model M?

    Ah, I meant maybe you should try another cable. I know for a fact I used the same cable for my SSK as I did a Model AT F and M.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 10:29:59
    I'm going to try to remember today to run it through my PS/2 to USB converter, and see if there is any difference, then I might pick up a cable from Orihalcon and see what's up there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 October 2013, 11:04:36
    I know I've seen it posted and am pretty sure of the answer but I'll ask anyways.

    I've got a coolermaster board and it has costar stabs and I hate those little white inserts so is my only solution to completely desolder and install cherry stabs?

    Or can a stock coolermaster plate even take cherry stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 11:06:44
    It can't accept Cherry stabs. You'd have to find a Universal TKL plate if you wanted to use them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 October 2013, 11:08:28
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 11:06:44
    It can't accept Cherry stabs. You'd have to find a Universal TKL plate if you wanted to use them.

    Ah ok and it's not a TKL either its the XT :( boooooo
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kampeki on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:02:56
    I'd like to know a few keyboards, TKL or Fullsize ( TKL would be better ) that have a larger Ctrl key size, I believe that means 1.5x modifiers, like the BWU, could someone point some to me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:05:12
    Quote from: Kampeki on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:02:56
    I'd like to know a few keyboards, TKL or Fullsize ( TKL would be better ) that have a larger Ctrl key size, I believe that means 1.5x modifiers, like the BWU, could someone point some to me?

    http://www.ttesports.com/productPage.aspx?p=19&g=ftr

    Big enough for you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:07:03
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:05:12
    Quote from: Kampeki on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:02:56
    I'd like to know a few keyboards, TKL or Fullsize ( TKL would be better ) that have a larger Ctrl key size, I believe that means 1.5x modifiers, like the BWU, could someone point some to me?

    http://www.ttesports.com/productPage.aspx?p=19&g=ftr

    Big enough for you?
    Thermaltake always pushing the boundaries..
    (http://i.imgur.com/ClExEiK.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:07:24
    Quote from: Kampeki on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:02:56
    I'd like to know a few keyboards, TKL or Fullsize ( TKL would be better ) that have a larger Ctrl key size, I believe that means 1.5x modifiers, like the BWU, could someone point some to me?

    The Korean custom boards like The Cheat, KMAC, and LZ-GH will have these as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kampeki on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:24:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:07:24
    The Korean custom boards like The Cheat, KMAC, and LZ-GH will have these as well.

    I meant more like these ones, that Tt Meka is too much for me :P, unfortunately Korean customs are a little out of my budget, thank you everyone though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:27:41
    You could probably put together a Phantom for cheaper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:31:11
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:27:41
    You could probably put together a Phantom for cheaper.

    Very true...I keep forgetting a Phantom PCB can be bought easily and is very cheap now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:34:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:31:11
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:27:41
    You could probably put together a Phantom for cheaper.

    Very true...I keep forgetting a Phantom PCB can be bought easily and is very cheap now.

    PCB's area easy to get, plates not so much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:39:23
    I would wager if you started a WTB for a popular layout plate like ANSI150, you'd find it relatively easy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:53:07
    Many WYSE boards also have large Ctrl keys, but you would most likely have to make a converter for use with a PC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 01 October 2013, 18:07:00
    Quote from: Kampeki on Tue, 01 October 2013, 13:02:56
    I'd like to know a few keyboards, TKL or Fullsize ( TKL would be better ) that have a larger Ctrl key size, I believe that means 1.5x modifiers, like the BWU, could someone point some to me?

    HHKB Pro 2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kampeki on Wed, 02 October 2013, 06:57:51
    HHKB is too compact for me.

    Thank you everyone who replied, I think my best bet is to build a Phantom, although it will be a bit hard to get the plate and switches, besides the fact that it will be my second keyboard, after my BWU. But I believe it would be worth it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 02 October 2013, 07:01:36
    Quote from: Kampeki on Wed, 02 October 2013, 06:57:51
    HHKB is too compact for me.

    Thank you everyone who replied, I think my best bet is to build a Phantom, although it will be a bit hard to get the plate and switches, besides the fact that it will be my second keyboard, after my BWU. But I believe it would be worth it.

    www.mouser.com and www.digikey.com both sell Cherry switches.  If you want to check part numbers for the specific cherry stem colors head to www.cherrycorp.com and navigate to "Keyswitches" on the left hand column and from there select MX switch line.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 October 2013, 07:25:00
    Quote from: Kampeki on Wed, 02 October 2013, 06:57:51
    HHKB is too compact for me.

    Thank you everyone who replied, I think my best bet is to build a Phantom, although it will be a bit hard to get the plate and switches, besides the fact that it will be my second keyboard, after my BWU. But I believe it would be worth it.

    What kind of switches are you wanting?

    There are cheap new blue switches in the classifieds right now. There are also frequent sales of cheap used black switches.

    You can also order switches from a groupbuy at deskthority from user 7bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 02 October 2013, 07:40:17
    When hardwiring LEDs on all switches on a keyboard that doesn't support full LED lighting for whatever reason are they wired in series or parallel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 October 2013, 07:42:55
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 02 October 2013, 07:01:36
    Quote from: Kampeki on Wed, 02 October 2013, 06:57:51
    HHKB is too compact for me.

    Thank you everyone who replied, I think my best bet is to build a Phantom, although it will be a bit hard to get the plate and switches, besides the fact that it will be my second keyboard, after my BWU. But I believe it would be worth it.

    www.mouser.com and www.digikey.com both sell Cherry switches.  If you want to check part numbers for the specific cherry stem colors head to www.cherrycorp.com and navigate to "Keyswitches" on the left hand column and from there select MX switch line.

    The Deskthority wiki also has part numbers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 October 2013, 07:54:57
    Cherry Switch part numbers

    Plate Mount
        MXBLUE    MX1A-E1NN
        MXBROWN   MX1A-G1NN
        MXCLEAR   MX1A-C1NN
        MXGREEN   MX1A-F1NN
        MXGREY    MX1A-D1NN
        MXRED     MX1A-L1NN
        MXWHITE   MX1A-A1NN

    PCB mount
        MXBLACK   MX1A-11NW
        MXBLUE   MX1A-E1NW
        MXBROWN   MX1A-G1NW
        MXCLEAR   NWMX1A-C1NW
        MXGREEN   MX1A-F1NW
        MXGREY    MX1A-D1NW
        MXRED     MX1A-L1NW
        MXWHITE   MX1A-A1NW

    dt wiki link

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Cherry_MX
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 02 October 2013, 08:25:02
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:57:25
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 29 September 2013, 10:12:08
    What kind of wire should I use for direct wiring?

    I always use telecom cross connect wire, because I have a 1000' spool of it. It's basically just 24AWG solid copper wire.
    Cheers! Got some 24AWG now, it's perfect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kampeki on Wed, 02 October 2013, 08:45:34
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 October 2013, 07:25:00

    What kind of switches are you wanting?

    I'm looking for browns, perhaps a few clears, but brown are my priority.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sharkbyte on Wed, 02 October 2013, 09:43:30
    can I transfer switches from a PCB mount to a plate mount KB easily?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 02 October 2013, 09:44:29
    Quote from: sharkbyte on Wed, 02 October 2013, 09:43:30
    can I transfer switches from a PCB mount to a plate mount KB easily?
    Yes, chop off the two smaller plastic pins on the bottom of the switches with some nail clippers or a similar tool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sharkbyte on Wed, 02 October 2013, 11:21:03
    Do I have to solder for this transfer, or can ijust switch the inner components?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 October 2013, 11:23:24
    Quote from: sharkbyte on Wed, 02 October 2013, 11:21:03
    Do I have to solder for this transfer, or can ijust switch the inner components?

    PCB mount can be opened up and you can remove the stem and spring however unless the plate has been designed to allow for switch top removal you will have to desolder the plate mount
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 02 October 2013, 11:23:41
    Quote from: sharkbyte on Wed, 02 October 2013, 11:21:03
    Do I have to solder for this transfer, or can ijust switch the inner components?
    You can open the switches on a PCB-mounted board without desoldering, but on a plate mounted board (unless it uses a custom plate, which i'm guessing yours does not) you cannot, so you need to desolder them to access their internals.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 02 October 2013, 14:54:35
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 02 October 2013, 11:23:41
    Quote from: sharkbyte on Wed, 02 October 2013, 11:21:03
    Do I have to solder for this transfer, or can ijust switch the inner components?
    You can open the switches on a PCB-mounted board without desoldering, but on a plate mounted board (unless it uses a custom plate, which i'm guessing yours does not) you cannot, so you need to desolder them to access their internals.

    Also note that you can not swap switch internals on PCB mount without desoldering if the switch has an LED
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:09:05
    I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I'm trying to make sure that a Phantom PCB is compatible with a standard Filco TKL plate (for a Filco-style layout, of course).  If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:18:11
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 02 October 2013, 15:09:05
    I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I'm trying to make sure that a Phantom PCB is compatible with a standard Filco TKL plate (for a Filco-style layout, of course).  If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
    Thanks in advance!

    That's what it was designed for!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 02 October 2013, 17:51:49
    Does any of the firmware for teensy based projects have the ability to send a different key code based on being tapped or held?  Looking to use the ESC key as function. I want to be able to tap it and it is ESC but if I hold it down it would be Function.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 02 October 2013, 19:28:48
    I'm sure this is an obvious answer, but only to those who have physically seen the switches in question.

    So, you buy/design/steal a PCB. It was built with the expectation of, probably, cherry MX keyswitches. Matias makes alps clones which some say are nice. Some users swear by Topre mechanical.

     Since you can't tell by staring at the keycap, what actuation is going on underneath, are these switches interchangeable? Can I desolder ALPs keys from an ebay find and put them on my phantom, or ergodox?

     If not, do we all, as a community, assume that PCBs floating around all expect Cherry MX unless expressly stated otherwise?

    I guess a second question, related, is "are there MX clones" although matias didn't start, I'm guessing, until ALPS quit. But still ... can I arbitrarily get "generic" mechanical switches that will work with an arbitrary PCB I might be holding in my hand?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 02 October 2013, 19:39:51
    Quote from: AKmalamute on Wed, 02 October 2013, 19:28:48
    I'm sure this is an obvious answer, but only to those who have physically seen the switches in question.

    So, you buy/design/steal a PCB. It was built with the expectation of, probably, cherry MX keyswitches. Matias makes alps clones which some say are nice. Some users swear by Topre mechanical.

     Since you can't tell by staring at the keycap, what actuation is going on underneath, are these switches interchangeable? Can I desolder ALPs keys from an ebay find and put them on my phantom, or ergodox?

     If not, do we all, as a community, assume that PCBs floating around all expect Cherry MX unless expressly stated otherwise?

    I guess a second question, related, is "are there MX clones" although matias didn't start, I'm guessing, until ALPS quit. But still ... can I arbitrarily get "generic" mechanical switches that will work with an arbitrary PCB I might be holding in my hand?

    Alps switch pins are in different positions than MX switches, so they won't work with an MX PCB.

    Topre switches are capacitive so they're an entirely different beast.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 02 October 2013, 19:41:54
    Further, it is pretty much assumed that MOST PCBs will be MX, being they've been the most popular, unless otherwise described as being something else. But it's also best to know rather than assume.

    There are MX clones, but they're pretty much crap, and I don't think you're going to save any money over getting the real deal, especially on some of these classifieds deals.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 October 2013, 19:51:13
    Quote from: AKmalamute on Wed, 02 October 2013, 19:28:48
    1) I'm sure this is an obvious answer, but only to those who have physically seen the switches in question.

    2) Since you can't tell by staring at the keycap, what actuation is going on underneath, are these switches interchangeable? Can I desolder ALPs keys from an ebay find and put them on my phantom, or ergodox?

    3) If not, do we all, as a community, assume that PCBs floating around all expect Cherry MX unless expressly stated otherwise?

    4) I guess a second question, related, is "are there MX clones"

    5) although matias didn't start, I'm guessing, until ALPS quit.

    6) But still ... can I arbitrarily get "generic" mechanical switches that will work with an arbitrary PCB I might be holding in my hand?

    1) Read up and look at: Cherry (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX), Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL/SKCM_Series), Topre (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_switch), Buckling Spring (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Buckling_spring).

    2) No you can just swap switches in. The PCB, plate, and controller are specifically designed for a certain switch.

    3) The PCBs are usually stated as to what they are. 90% of custom PCBs are MX and we're starting to see some Alps. But you can't swap Alps into MX.

    4) Yes there are MX clones, check this out (http://imgur.com/a/7ujle#0)

    5) Matias took the idea of his switches from Apple AEKs. Think the AEKs were still around when he started the idea. Read up on the Matias switches here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32769.0)

    6) There are tons of different mechanical switches. They all mount differently. There's no "generic" switch per se but much of the stuff the forum is into is Cherry MX stuff since its the most popular switch type.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 02 October 2013, 23:06:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 02 October 2013, 17:51:49
    Does any of the firmware for teensy based projects have the ability to send a different key code based on being tapped or held?  Looking to use the ESC key as function. I want to be able to tap it and it is ESC but if I hold it down it would be Function.

    This is a great question. I don't know of any firmwares that can configure that in the general case but it should be relatively easy to program into an existing one.  I implemented something similar in my own code for emulating Matias half keyboard.  Tap space and you get space. Hold it down and you access the 'special' layer.

    The trick is to hold off sending the key code on the downstroke and use some memory.

    Are you using a phantom?  I could whip you up a proof-of-concept
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: acer589 on Thu, 03 October 2013, 01:15:25
    So, I have no idea the point of "stickers" could someone explain them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 03 October 2013, 01:23:49
    Check the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 03 October 2013, 01:27:59
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 02 October 2013, 23:06:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 02 October 2013, 17:51:49
    Does any of the firmware for teensy based projects have the ability to send a different key code based on being tapped or held?  Looking to use the ESC key as function. I want to be able to tap it and it is ESC but if I hold it down it would be Function.

    This is a great question. I don't know of any firmwares that can configure that in the general case but it should be relatively easy to program into an existing one.  I implemented something similar in my own code for emulating Matias half keyboard.  Tap space and you get space. Hold it down and you access the 'special' layer.

    The trick is to hold off sending the key code on the downstroke and use some memory.

    Are you using a phantom?  I could whip you up a proof-of-concept

    Not a phantom but a Teensy 2.0 hardwired matrix of my own layout.  but nothing is built yet see the link in my sig for the process.  It is going to be a TKL with the Function row in a layer on the number row and media keys in the same layer on the navigation block.  The Esc key is going to be in the Tilde position but was hoping to use that key on a hold as the Function key to access said layer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 03 October 2013, 01:47:17
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 02 October 2013, 19:39:51
    Alps switch pins are in different positions than MX switches, so they won't work with an MX PCB.

    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 02 October 2013, 19:41:54
    Further, it is pretty much assumed that MOST PCBs will be MX, being they've been the most popular, unless otherwise described as being something else. But it's also best to know rather than assume.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 October 2013, 19:51:13
    [snipping the rewording of my post into bullet form]

    1) Read up and look at: Cherry (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX), Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL/SKCM_Series), Topre (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_switch), Buckling Spring (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Buckling_spring).

    2) No you can't just swap switches in. The PCB, plate, and controller are specifically designed for a certain switch.

    3) The PCBs are usually stated as to what they are. 90% of custom PCBs are MX and we're starting to see some Alps. But you can't swap Alps into MX.

    4) Yes there are MX clones, check this out (http://imgur.com/a/7ujle#0)

    5) Matias took the idea of his switches from Apple AEKs. Think the AEKs were still around when he started the idea. Read up on the Matias switches here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32769.0)

    6) There are tons of different mechanical switches. They all mount differently. There's no "generic" switch per se but much of the stuff the forum is into is Cherry MX stuff since its the most popular switch type.

    These have all been so helpful. In particular I didn't know that, about the controller (so, a teensy would need different firmware for a mostly-the-same PCB that was re-wired for Alps, then?)

    Any chance I could recommend some condensed form of this, be included in the FAQ/OP? I know I, for one, have spent some fair amount of time trying to tease out such solid answers as whether pin arrangement differed between switch companies.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 October 2013, 06:11:21
    Quote from: AKmalamute on Thu, 03 October 2013, 01:47:17
    1) so, a teensy would need different firmware for a mostly-the-same PCB that was re-wired for Alps, then?

    2) Any chance I could recommend some condensed form of this, be included in the FAQ/OP? I know I, for one, have spent some fair amount of time trying to tease out such solid answers as whether pin arrangement differed between switch companies.

    1) Think that the firmware is different because of how the Alps and MX switches are scanned in the software? So yes there would be a need for different firmware. The rows and columns? I'm not 100% how firmware works. You can check out the Teensy guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0) for more info. But I think the common form of Alps and MX are similar enough that a firmware could handle both? There are now PCBs that allow for Alps and MX to be mounted on the same PCB. But that's only two types of switches out of many. For example, check out how many variants of switches the Alps company made (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Alps_switches).

    2) I add things to the OP based on how often questions are asked both here and on the forums. Since I've never seen you particular question asked, I won't be adding it immediately. If I see that question asked more or there is a demand, I will add it later.

    Edit: In regards to #1, please check Komar's explanation on a keyboard matrix out (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/). As you can see below, I'm mistaken in my comment but I'm going to leave it up so people can learn with me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 October 2013, 06:44:09
    CPT, have you read komar's tech blog yet? If not, you should. :)

    http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 October 2013, 07:10:20
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 October 2013, 06:44:09
    CPT, have you read komar's tech blog yet? If not, you should. :)

    http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/

    No I haven't JD. Thanks for the link.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 03 October 2013, 07:13:36
    How are the firmware and controller designed for a switch type?  Alps and Cherry are both just momentary contact switches.  Only difference is the footprint.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 October 2013, 07:21:43
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 03 October 2013, 07:13:36
    How are the firmware and controller designed for a switch type?  Alps and Cherry are both just momentary contact switches.  Only difference is the footprint.

    I totally was guessing. I'm not really sure so please feel free to correct me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 03 October 2013, 07:23:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 October 2013, 06:44:09
    CPT, have you read komar's tech blog yet? If not, you should. :)

    http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/

    I must say that is an awesome write up at that link and I think I am going to have to bookmark that home page.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:15:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 02 October 2013, 17:51:49
    Does any of the firmware for teensy based projects have the ability to send a different key code based on being tapped or held?  Looking to use the ESC key as function. I want to be able to tap it and it is ESC but if I hold it down it would be Function.

    I'm pretty sure TMK_firmware implements this functionality

    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 03 October 2013, 07:13:36
    How are the firmware and controller designed for a switch type?  Alps and Cherry are both just momentary contact switches.  Only difference is the footprint.
    I would assume they have different debounce times, but that's more an issue with tuning the firmware.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Thu, 03 October 2013, 15:42:24
    Is it really necessary to lube ergo clears with 62g springs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 03 October 2013, 15:45:45
    Quote from: goobus on Thu, 03 October 2013, 15:42:24
    Is it really necessary to lube ergo clears with 62g springs?
    Necessary? No, they're not going to stick. Recommended? Absolutely 100%, but I think non lubed linear and tactile switches feel like garbage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 October 2013, 15:47:03
    Quote from: goobus on Thu, 03 October 2013, 15:42:24
    Is it really necessary to lube ergo clears with 62g springs?

    Necessary? No. You don't have to lube any switch really, just more personal preference. Some of the ergo clears I've tried have mods that are sticky and dont rebound correctly. Lube might help that? You can read some ergo-clears threads to see what the general consensus is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 03 October 2013, 16:07:02
    I like unlubed stock Clears on my OH's Ducky Shine very much.  All of the keyboards I've modified have lubed switches, but I like those stock Clears just as much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 03 October 2013, 17:26:47
    Quote from: goobus on Thu, 03 October 2013, 15:42:24
    Is it really necessary to lube ergo clears with 62g springs?

    They'll stick very badly on the upstroke if you don't. It doesn't affect typing at all but it feels awful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:17:56
    Can someone tell me what a crab bag is and where can I get one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:20:44
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:17:56
    Can someone tell me what a crab bag is and where can I get one?

    A crap bag, I assume :P

    It's a product from SP in which they put leftover caps, caps with defects and things like that. I think they only sell it once a year.

    I also think there was someone on the classifieds selling some.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:21:31
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:20:44
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:17:56
    Can someone tell me what a crab bag is and where can I get one?

    A crap bag, I assume :P

    It's a product from SP in which they put leftover caps, caps with defects and things like that. I think they only sell it once a year.

    I also think there was someone on the classifieds selling some.

    Sorry, I'm a pretty big newb. What is SP?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:22:00
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:17:56
    Can someone tell me what a crab bag is and where can I get one?

    you can buy them from Signature Plastics, a keycap and plastics company
    basically 1000 (?) mixmatched keycaps that are either fine, 1-offs or have something wrong with them

    normally you would buy from here, but they are sold out atm
    http://keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:44:13
    Twice a year?  Last one was July this year, previous one was December last year.

    Apparently they were called "grab bags" but someone from GH during a site visit referred to them as "crap bags" and the name kinda stuck, even at SP.

    They contain a ransom selection of keycaps - no-one has ever reported a complete set.  You might be lucky (usually you are) to find a few rare or sought-after keycaps.  The July catch was Hapsters.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:51:41
    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:44:13
    Twice a year?  Last one was July this year, previous one was December last year.

    Apparently they were called "grab bags" but someone from GH during a site visit referred to them as "crap bags" and the name kinda stuck, even at SP.

    They contain a ransom selection of keycaps - no-one has ever reported a complete set.  You might be lucky (usually you are) to find a few rare or sought-after keycaps.  The July catch was Hapsters.

    I've still got a few thousand to go through so I'll keep hope alive :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:56:00
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:51:41
    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 03 October 2013, 22:44:13
    Twice a year?  Last one was July this year, previous one was December last year.

    Apparently they were called "grab bags" but someone from GH during a site visit referred to them as "crap bags" and the name kinda stuck, even at SP.

    They contain a ransom selection of keycaps - no-one has ever reported a complete set.  You might be lucky (usually you are) to find a few rare or sought-after keycaps.  The July catch was Hapsters.

    I've still got a few thousand to go through so I'll keep hope alive :P

    I guess if you buy enough bags you might get a full set.

    WoB DS probably.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 03 October 2013, 23:08:31
    How much did each bag cost?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 04 October 2013, 01:02:30
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 03 October 2013, 23:08:31
    How much did each bag cost?

    $35 this time around IIRC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 04 October 2013, 03:17:28
    Anyone ever tried installing an RGB led into an MX key?

    Edit to add question.  Are SP's legends for double shots row and or cap size specific?  IE can I get Control legend on a tab key without having a custom legend cut?  Or more specifically to what I would love to have done, could I get get 1x legends done on 1.5x caps for double shots again without a special legend cut?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Fri, 04 October 2013, 06:52:41
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 03 October 2013, 17:26:47
    Quote from: goobus on Thu, 03 October 2013, 15:42:24
    Is it really necessary to lube ergo clears with 62g springs?

    They'll stick very badly on the upstroke if you don't. It doesn't affect typing at all but it feels awful.

    Yuck. Sounds like I will have to pick up some krytox mixture and victorinox oil!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 October 2013, 08:13:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 04 October 2013, 03:17:28
    1) Anyone ever tried installing an RGB led into an MX key?

    2) Are SP's legends for double shots row and or cap size specific?  IE can I get Control legend on a tab key without having a custom legend cut?  Or more specifically to what I would love to have done, could I get get 1x legends done on 1.5x caps for double shots again without a special legend cut?

    1) There's a new board out from Ducky, I believe, that has an RGB LED on the CTRL, Shift, and ALT keys.

    2) I think they have two piece molding: the second shot would have the cap itself and the profile. The first shot is the legend. So if they already have the mold, you wouldnt have to pay. I'm fairly sure theres a mold for CTRL that fits into tab. But for something like 1x legends on 1.5x keys, I'm not sure that's possible. BLJConsulting or Melissa at SP would know for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 October 2013, 12:52:01
    So I know you can search your PM inbox but how do you search PM's that you've sent out??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AKmalamute on Fri, 04 October 2013, 12:59:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 04 October 2013, 03:17:28
    Anyone ever tried installing an RGB led into an MX key?
    I distinctly recall a youtube video demonstrating the assembly of the Ergodox kit, where the (Scandinavian by the accent but I forget who) vlogger modifies the caps lock to accept an LED, which involves a dremel to the keyswitch cover before soldering the LED to board next to the switch in question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 October 2013, 13:11:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 October 2013, 12:52:01
    So I know you can search your PM inbox but how do you search PM's that you've sent out??

    I tried my usual search methods: GH PM search, search at the top right of GH, then a Google search "site:<myPMurl> <myoldmessage>" and none of those worked.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 October 2013, 13:26:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 October 2013, 13:11:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 October 2013, 12:52:01
    So I know you can search your PM inbox but how do you search PM's that you've sent out??

    I tried my usual search methods: GH PM search, search at the top right of GH, then a Google search "site:<myPMurl> <myoldmessage>" and none of those worked.

    perhaps we can call it a bug then :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 04 October 2013, 17:39:55
    I think you have to check something when you send the message that sends the pm into your mailbox. Otherwise you can't get it back
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 October 2013, 17:41:08
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 04 October 2013, 17:39:55
    I think you have to check something when you send the message that sends the pm into your mailbox. Otherwise you can't get it back

    Even if you save a copy to your Outbox, which I have done, I can't figure out how to search the Outbox.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 04 October 2013, 18:02:20
    I'm thinking of making a custom numpad, where the -+enter is on the left side and there is a row of macro keys on top and below.

    Anybody know how to do this? I'm pretty new to modding
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 October 2013, 18:48:43
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 04 October 2013, 18:02:20
    I'm thinking of making a custom numpad, where the -+enter is on the left side and there is a row of macro keys on top and below.

    Anybody know how to do this? I'm pretty new to modding

    If you're asking how to make an entire custom numpad, this is definitely not a simple question. Check out the GH10 pad (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38963.0) and the Making Stuff Together forum for more info.

    If you're asking how to remap a numpad you can buy, such as the Filco one, you can use AutoHotKey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 04 October 2013, 18:52:38
    I check out that subforum.

    Want to make my own custom pad, been having this theory that I want to try out of gaming with a numpad that can still double as a pad
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 04 October 2013, 19:22:50
    Why are my white switches so much quieter when I press them with my fingers rather than with keycaps? Is it resonating within the keycap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 04 October 2013, 19:54:06
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 04 October 2013, 19:22:50
    Why are my white switches so much quieter when I press them with my fingers rather than with keycaps? Is it resonating within the keycap?

    Pretty sure that's the same with all switches
    (from experience)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 04 October 2013, 20:01:03
    What is this dark magic?!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 October 2013, 20:43:15
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 04 October 2013, 19:22:50
    Why are my white switches so much quieter when I press them with my fingers rather than with keycaps? Is it resonating within the keycap?

    Your finger is denser than a keycap so the sound waves don't travel as much? I had the same experience as you and dubsgalore. All switches seem like this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 04 October 2013, 21:17:29
    Thanks for that simple answer, CPT! Or should I say....LE twin...

    I guess WKL makes me the evil twin....BWAHAHAHAHA.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 October 2013, 21:45:35
    As long as you got the Titanium color LE, you can be the evil twin. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 04 October 2013, 21:50:54
    Titanium is the best color. That's a simple answer right there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 05 October 2013, 01:26:47
    Quote from: AKmalamute on Fri, 04 October 2013, 12:59:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 04 October 2013, 03:17:28
    Anyone ever tried installing an RGB led into an MX key?
    I distinctly recall a youtube video demonstrating the assembly of the Ergodox kit, where the (Scandinavian by the accent but I forget who) vlogger modifies the caps lock to accept an LED, which involves a dremel to the keyswitch cover before soldering the LED to board next to the switch in question.

    I thought that this mod was so that you can still swap stems/springs without desoldering the LED.  What I am talking about is the RGB LED with 4 leads coming off them.  You can get them with a common anode or common cathode.  I wonder if you could just bend and slide the other 2 leads through the holes where the diode would go for in switch diodes.  This would still require switch top modding but may not require removing the entire front section.

    Also since these are controlled by adjusting the voltage to the various leads I would assume that you can change the colors with just 3 rheostats?  One on each non common lead.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 05 October 2013, 07:38:36
    I ask again,sorry OOT :)

    What mean:
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive

    I try register something forum in country,i've try lot password but always fail, :eek:
    even my password with combination no,caps.etc but always fail can help me :'(

    thanks very much all!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 05 October 2013, 07:45:30
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 05 October 2013, 07:38:36
    I ask again,sorry OOT :)

    What mean:
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive

    I try register something forum in country,i've try lot password but always fail, :eek:
    even my password with combination no,caps.etc but always fail can help me :'(

    thanks very much all!

    You probably need to find the link to 'reset' your password.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 October 2013, 09:57:14
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 05 October 2013, 07:38:36
    I ask again,sorry OOT :)

    What mean:
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive

    I try register something forum in country,i've try lot password but always fail, :eek:
    even my password with combination no,caps.etc but always fail can help me :'(

    thanks very much all!

    Please don't ask off topic questions here. This thread is for keyboard and Geekhack related stuff only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 05 October 2013, 14:28:24
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 05 October 2013, 01:26:47
    Quote from: AKmalamute on Fri, 04 October 2013, 12:59:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 04 October 2013, 03:17:28
    Anyone ever tried installing an RGB led into an MX key?
    I distinctly recall a youtube video demonstrating the assembly of the Ergodox kit, where the (Scandinavian by the accent but I forget who) vlogger modifies the caps lock to accept an LED, which involves a dremel to the keyswitch cover before soldering the LED to board next to the switch in question.

    I thought that this mod was so that you can still swap stems/springs without desoldering the LED.  What I am talking about is the RGB LED with 4 leads coming off them.  You can get them with a common anode or common cathode.  I wonder if you could just bend and slide the other 2 leads through the holes where the diode would go for in switch diodes.  This would still require switch top modding but may not require removing the entire front section.

    Also since these are controlled by adjusting the voltage to the various leads I would assume that you can change the colors with just 3 rheostats?  One on each non common lead.
    Since you already almost certainly have a microcontroller, it'd be much easier to just use PWM and a transistor (if necessary) to power the RGBLED(s). and if, not, a potentiometer is likely a better choice than a rheostat unless you're drawing a ton of current, and you'd need an external power supply (battery pack or wallplug) for that anyway, so it's a crazy design anyway.

    That said, I think this is possible, but only if you modify the switch housing to get rid of the diode holder "walls" between the LED and diode holes int he switch bottom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Sun, 06 October 2013, 01:33:30
    I took apart my Shine III to try and do the Cherry stabilizer mod.  So I took out 3 LEDs from the space bar, but when I soldered them back in they had stopped working.  Any idea what the issue might be???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 October 2013, 01:40:55
    Quote from: goobus on Sun, 06 October 2013, 01:33:30
    I took apart my Shine III to try and do the Cherry stabilizer mod.  So I took out 3 LEDs from the space bar, but when I soldered them back in they had stopped working.  Any idea what the issue might be???

    Did you solder them in the right way?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 06 October 2013, 01:40:55
    Quote from: goobus on Sun, 06 October 2013, 01:33:30
    I took apart my Shine III to try and do the Cherry stabilizer mod.  So I took out 3 LEDs from the space bar, but when I soldered them back in they had stopped working.  Any idea what the issue might be???

    Soldered them in the wrong way? (polarity)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 06 October 2013, 13:51:14
    are the keycaps that on utron smaller than keycaps that on realfore/ hhkb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 06 October 2013, 14:28:23
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 06 October 2013, 13:51:14
    are the keycaps that on utron smaller than keycaps that on realfore/ hhkb?

    I believe they are physically smaller, yes. As a result, the key spacing is slightly closer than a standard keyboard.

    You can see webwit's comparisons inm some of his pictures, here:
    (http://webwit.nl/input/utron/utron_vs_hhkb1.jpg)
    (http://i.imm.io/1hIIP.png)
    Cropped from webwit's photo. Linked below. Thanks and credit to webwit for this picture.

    http://webwit.nl/input/utron/utron_vs_hhkb1.jpg
    http://webwit.nl/input/utron/utron_vs_hhkb2.jpg
    http://webwit.nl/input/utron/utron_vs_hhkb3.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:00:45
    Looking to replace the stock MX Blue switches on a Cherry G80-3000, with a batch of MX White switches.  The MX White switches don't have internal diodes, is my only recourse to open each switch and insert a diode, bending leads to fit?  Or can I add the diodes directly to the PCB?

    Just trying to figure out the order of installation, before I put all the switches into the steel plate.  It's a stock plate, no cut-outs for opening the switch tops.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:09:48
    Quote from: Greystoke on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:00:45
    Looking to replace the stock MX Blue switches on a Cherry G80-3000, with a batch of MX White switches.  The MX White switches don't have internal diodes, is my only recourse to open each switch and insert a diode, bending leads to fit?  Or can I add the diodes directly to the PCB?

    Just trying to figure out the order of installation, before I put all the switches into the steel plate.  It's a stock plate, no cut-outs for opening the switch tops.
    Wait.. I thought G80-3000s were PCB mount?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:16:28
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:09:48
    Quote from: Greystoke on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:00:45
    Looking to replace the stock MX Blue switches on a Cherry G80-3000, with a batch of MX White switches.  The MX White switches don't have internal diodes, is my only recourse to open each switch and insert a diode, bending leads to fit?  Or can I add the diodes directly to the PCB?

    Just trying to figure out the order of installation, before I put all the switches into the steel plate.  It's a stock plate, no cut-outs for opening the switch tops.
    Wait.. I thought G80-3000s were PCB mount?

    They are...  I'm just using the PCB from the G80-3000, to mount Cherry MX switches in a Marquardt military keyboard case.  Which uses a really robust steel plate.

    The MX White switches I have are plate-mount, but that's how I'm using them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:40:09
    Quote from: Greystoke on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:16:28
    They are...  I'm just using the PCB from the G80-3000, to mount Cherry MX switches in a Marquardt military keyboard case.  Which uses a really robust steel plate.

    The MX White switches I have are plate-mount, but that's how I'm using them.
    Ah I see.. Yeah, you'll need to take the diodes out and put them in the whites unfortunately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tarzan on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:48:20
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:40:09
    Quote from: Greystoke on Sun, 06 October 2013, 16:16:28
    They are...  I'm just using the PCB from the G80-3000, to mount Cherry MX switches in a Marquardt military keyboard case.  Which uses a really robust steel plate.

    The MX White switches I have are plate-mount, but that's how I'm using them.
    Ah I see.. Yeah, you'll need to take the diodes out and put them in the whites unfortunately.
    Thanks!  I guess I'll get to use The Beast's switch tools after all. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 10:35:20
    What's the most common form of material used for keyboard plates?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 07 October 2013, 10:36:39
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 10:35:20
    What's the most common form of material used for keyboard plates?

    stainless steel
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 07 October 2013, 10:41:03
    or alu
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 10:43:34
    Is it tiring to type on a steel plate for too long since it is stiffer than aluminum? What is the usual thickness of the metal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 07 October 2013, 10:46:09
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 10:43:34
    Is it tiring to type on a steel plate for too long since it is stiffer than aluminum? What is the usual thickness of the metal.
    1.5mm or 0.06" are both the best thicknesses. 1/16" is very close but not perfect.

    I seriously doubt you'd notice too much of a difference between the two.. I can say with certainty you wouldn't get tired more while using one of the metals.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:01:21
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 10:43:34
    Is it tiring to type on a steel plate for too long since it is stiffer than aluminum? What is the usual thickness of the metal.

    That brings up an interesting thought, I agree with photekq I've never really seen any indication that the plate material affected how 'tired' one might get typing, normally that is dependent upon switches/keycaps etc.

    What I wonder is would typing on a PCB mount vs plate mount have a difference. I could see where PCB mount might be more fatiguing if the switches had some wiggle/woble to them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:17:38
    With that in mind, would stainless steel or aluminum be a cheaper material to work with? What do you recommend. Is it possible to anodize aluminum/steel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bahamot on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:20:29
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:17:38
    With that in mind, would stainless steel or aluminum be a cheaper material to work with? What do you recommend. Is it possible to anodize aluminum/steel?
    You can anodized both.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:21:33
    Difference in price is negligible.. You ought to google simple stuff like can you anodise alu/steel before asking it here, but to save you the large amount of effort involved in doing so.. you can anodise aluminium, you cannot anodise steel.
    Quote from: bahamot on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:20:29
    You can anodized both.
    No you cannot anodise steel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bahamot on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:24:06
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:21:33
    Difference in price is negligible.. You ought to google simple stuff like can you anodise alu/steel before asking it here, but to save you the large amount of effort involved in doing so.. you can anodise aluminium, you cannot anodise steel.
    Quote from: bahamot on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:20:29
    You can anodized both.
    No you cannot anodise steel.
    They (http://'http://www.finishing.com/245/20.shtml') said yes. But I haven't see one myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:26:13
    Quote from: bahamot on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:24:06
    They (http://'http://www.finishing.com/245/20.shtml') said yes. But I haven't see one myself.
    "Yes, it can be done. It does not have the usefulness that aluminum anodizing has."

    If you want to get technical, then yes it can be done, but it is nothing like aluminium or titanium anodising. It's crap, don't bother with it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:27:15
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:21:33
    Difference in price is negligible.. You ought to google simple stuff like can you anodise alu/steel before asking it here, but to save you the large amount of effort involved in doing so.. you can anodise aluminium, you cannot anodise steel.
    Quote from: bahamot on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:20:29
    You can anodized both.
    No you cannot anodise steel.
    Far too much effort. Then again, the thread IS called "simple questions, simple answers". I guess I may use anodized aluminum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:30:22
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:27:15
    Far too much effort. Then again, the thread IS called "simple questions, simple answers". I guess I may use anodized aluminum.
    It's for simple questions related to keyboards/other similar subjects (electronics) that can't be answered by a simple google search. Or at least that's what I always thought it was.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:40:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 October 2013, 01:40:55
    Quote from: goobus on Sun, 06 October 2013, 01:33:30
    I took apart my Shine III to try and do the Cherry stabilizer mod.  So I took out 3 LEDs from the space bar, but when I soldered them back in they had stopped working.  Any idea what the issue might be???

    Did you solder them in the right way?

    Yes, I'm pretty sure I did.  But the LED on the switch is really low and the two in between the cherry stab and the switch don't come on at all (those never even came out, I just desoldered then put the solder back in when the LED refused to come out).  However, I noticed that the side LEDs were really hot when I were finished with them, could they have been literally burned out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:42:21
    Quote from: bahamot on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:24:06
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:21:33
    Difference in price is negligible.. You ought to google simple stuff like can you anodise alu/steel before asking it here, but to save you the large amount of effort involved in doing so.. you can anodise aluminium, you cannot anodise steel.
    Quote from: bahamot on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:20:29
    You can anodized both.
    No you cannot anodise steel.
    They (http://'http://www.finishing.com/245/20.shtml') said yes. But I haven't see one myself.

    If you read the thread a little, it says that even if you anodize it, you're limited in colors and there's no benefit to material properties unless you do a secondary coating. Seems like a superfluous step in processing unless you really want black stainless steel. Most people just paint their stainless plates.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:01:21
    What I wonder is would typing on a PCB mount vs plate mount have a difference. I could see where PCB mount might be more fatiguing if the switches had some wiggle/woble to them.

    Not really. I don't a change in fatigue when I type on my Pure (currently PCB mounted) vs my KMAC (plate mounted).

    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:30:22
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:27:15
    Far too much effort. Then again, the thread IS called "simple questions, simple answers". I guess I may use anodized aluminum.
    It's for simple questions related to keyboards/other similar subjects (electronics) that can't be answered by a simple google search. Or at least that's what I always thought it was.

    The OP has a quick summary on how ideally this thread should work but it's become a thread where you can ask anything keyboard related and get a quick answer. Might not always be super detailed, but the answers from me will be fast and useful.

    Quote from: goobus on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:40:24
    Yes, I'm pretty sure I did.  But the LED on the switch is really low and the two in between the cherry stab and the switch don't come on at all (those never even came out, I just desoldered then put the solder back in when the LED refused to come out).  However, I noticed that the side LEDs were really hot when I were finished with them, could they have been literally burned out?

    Maybe? There's a few links in the OP that will show you which way the LEDs should face. Check that and then maybe measure the LEDs with a digital multimeter to see if they're registering the proper voltages?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 07 October 2013, 12:26:11
    Quote from: goobus on Mon, 07 October 2013, 11:40:24

    Yes, I'm pretty sure I did.  But the LED on the switch is really low and the two in between the cherry stab and the switch don't come on at all (those never even came out, I just desoldered then put the solder back in when the LED refused to come out).  However, I noticed that the side LEDs were really hot when I were finished with them, could they have been literally burned out?
    It's possible to burn out an LED. What sorts of test equipment do you have available? you can measure the LED's Vf (forward Voltage drop, or what is usually just referred to the diode's Voltage) with a multimeter. Then, if it reads a "normal" value, you can try to apply that voltage with a power supply (or battery is you have ones in the right voltage) to directly test the LED.

    Practise measuring LED's one one you know works first.

    Note that the "diode Voltage" function of many multimeters will not always work with white LED's (or anything over about 3V. I don't anticipate this to be a problem with your T1 size LED, but you never know)

    But first, since you desoldered it, you should check to make sure it's soldered back right. Use a continuity tester to check.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 07 October 2013, 23:55:32
    For custom plates that get cut for this community.  Any idea what grade of aluminum and stainless get used most often?  I would assume what is cheap-ish as the properties from more expensive wouldn't have hardly any difference on usability for what we are using it for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:30:46
    Why are cc's so expensive? I assume its supply and demand. Also does the cc effect also apply to say binge caps or gasmasks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:54:39
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:30:46
    Why are cc's so expensive? I assume its supply and demand. Also does the cc effect also apply to say binge caps or gasmasks?
    CC's are expensive as they are released in limited batches and are not sold often. That makes them exceptionally rare. It's not really a cc effect, it's simply supply and demand and rarity. Binge caps and gasmasks are likely not to become as high in value, unless either decided to only produce caps once in a blue moon. Also, there has to be a willing fan base to purchase caps at those prices. Then again, Binge caps are awesome so it may happen :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:55:55
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:54:39
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:30:46
    Why are cc's so expensive? I assume its supply and demand. Also does the cc effect also apply to say binge caps or gasmasks?
    CC's are expensive as they are released in limited batches and are not sold often. That makes them exceptionally rare. It's not really a cc effect, it's simply supply and demand and rarity. Binge caps and gasmasks are likely not to become as high in value, unless either decided to only produce caps once in a blue moon. Also, there has to be a willing fan base to purchase caps at those prices. Then again, Binge caps are awesome so it may happen :)
    When CC's were first released they didn't sell out for weeks in the EK store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 08 October 2013, 01:06:04
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:30:46
    Why are cc's so expensive? I assume its supply and demand. Also does the cc effect also apply to say binge caps or gasmasks?

    There are dozens of threads about this already - it should be in the FAQ (at the top!).

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48173.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45669.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44858.0

    For starters.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 02:29:44
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:55:55
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:54:39
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:30:46
    Why are cc's so expensive? I assume its supply and demand. Also does the cc effect also apply to say binge caps or gasmasks?
    CC's are expensive as they are released in limited batches and are not sold often. That makes them exceptionally rare. It's not really a cc effect, it's simply supply and demand and rarity. Binge caps and gasmasks are likely not to become as high in value, unless either decided to only produce caps once in a blue moon. Also, there has to be a willing fan base to purchase caps at those prices. Then again, Binge caps are awesome so it may happen :)
    When CC's were first released they didn't sell out for weeks in the EK store.
    Well you learn something new every day.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 October 2013, 06:12:29
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 08 October 2013, 01:06:04
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:30:46
    Why are cc's so expensive? I assume its supply and demand. Also does the cc effect also apply to say binge caps or gasmasks?

    There are dozens of threads about this already - it should be in the FAQ (at the top!).

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48173.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45669.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44858.0

    For starters.

    I suppose I should add this huh...and the FAQ doesn't really have an order. I just keep adding to it and the order is whatever question I think should be added is added last.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kgrad5 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 10:45:36
    Hey, this thread is really long and I am sure this has been asked before but I haven't really been able to find it so I apologize if it's a rehash.

    Where would I go to buy individual PBT Thick keycaps? It seems you can only buy sets of 104 but I only want modifiers or individual keys, is this something that is offered? How do people generally buy their keycaps? Seems like a lot of wasted unused keycaps if I buy the 104 set and use 13 of them...

    thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 October 2013, 10:48:46
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 10:45:36
    Where would I go to buy individual PBT Thick keycaps?

    Signature Plastics might have some for sale loose but other than that, I don't think there's a vendor that sells individual PBT caps. Maybe someone on Banggood or Taobao might but I'm not too familiar with those sites. Is there a reason you don't want a full set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kgrad5 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 10:54:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 October 2013, 10:48:46
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 10:45:36
    Where would I go to buy individual PBT Thick keycaps?

    Signature Plastics might have some for sale loose but other than that, I don't think there's a vendor that sells individual PBT caps. Maybe someone on Banggood or Taobao might but I'm not too familiar with those sites. Is there a reason you don't want a full set?

    Well I wouldn't really use the full set, I would like to add some color to my new FC660M but I know that there is a non-standard right shift key so I would have to buy 2 sets if I wanted to replace both, also there are a lot of keys I would just not use at all. It's more of a cost thing, it would be easier to acquire one key at a time I think or even just modifier sets and an additional shift key I guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kgrad5 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 14:12:00
    I have a QFR with blue switches, I really dislike the blue switches and I want to change them to brown (or clear or even green to try).

    Question 1: Where is the best place to buy a pack of brown switches (or other)?
    Question 2 (more important): How would I go about replacing switches? Is there a guide? I have read that plate mounted boards are tough(er?) to switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 08 October 2013, 14:14:53
    1: Ask around in the classifieds or participate in the 7bit group buy over at deskthority.net if that's still going on. They're generally not readily available in small quantities.
    2: Desolder each switch (2 points) on the board, pop em off, resolder the new ones in.

    WFD has videos... here's his phantom one

    You can youtube whitefiredragon keyboard for all his builds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Martyr on Wed, 09 October 2013, 01:44:10
    Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can purchase a Terran eagle keycap. I know feng sells the shield, but I prefer the eagle symbol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Wed, 09 October 2013, 02:11:21
    Are there any common spring pairings for jailhouse blues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: homojomo on Wed, 09 October 2013, 04:56:39
    so ive been having a few issues lately with my keyboard. got it earlier this year called mstone and what ive noticed is that the keys are a little unresponsive during games.
    it works perfectly when typing and stuff, but when playing games (most notably brood war or dota 2), a key doesnt register. i dont ever have this problem with older keyboards, but then again none of them were mechanical so...
    with brood war my biggest problem is when cycling through production buildings i will often find that some of them dont actually start production because my key didnt register. similar stuff for dota, items or skills not being pressed. i dont think its just me being bad because i never have these issues at pc bangs or with previous keyboards, and when typing i hardly ever miss a key. any thoughts? from what ive gathered already the only solution is to get a new keyboard, but that is definitely not what i want to do so im hoping you guys might have some other solutions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 09 October 2013, 05:22:47
    Quote from: homojomo on Wed, 09 October 2013, 04:56:39
    so ive been having a few issues lately with my keyboard. got it earlier this year called mstone and what ive noticed is that the keys are a little unresponsive during games.
    it works perfectly when typing and stuff, but when playing games (most notably brood war or dota 2), a key doesnt register. i dont ever have this problem with older keyboards, but then again none of them were mechanical so...
    with brood war my biggest problem is when cycling through production buildings i will often find that some of them dont actually start production because my key didnt register. similar stuff for dota, items or skills not being pressed. i dont think its just me being bad because i never have these issues at pc bangs or with previous keyboards, and when typing i hardly ever miss a key. any thoughts? from what ive gathered already the only solution is to get a new keyboard, but that is definitely not what i want to do so im hoping you guys might have some other solutions.

    Welcome to Geekhack!

    Some switches?  All switches?

    Does this happen when normal typing?

    What switches (e.g. MX black)?

    Is it possible that in the heat of the game you are simply not pressing the key all teh way down occasionally?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 October 2013, 06:39:30
    Sounds like MX Blues to me. For gaming, try a keyboard with linear MX switches, such as Black or Red.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 06:45:50
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Wed, 09 October 2013, 02:11:21
    Are there any common spring pairings for jailhouse blues?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45992.0

    ^^ that should help you find anything you ever wanted to know about jailhouse blues
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: homojomo on Wed, 09 October 2013, 08:13:42
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 09 October 2013, 05:22:47
    Quote from: homojomo on Wed, 09 October 2013, 04:56:39
    so ive been having a few issues lately with my keyboard. got it earlier this year called mstone and what ive noticed is that the keys are a little unresponsive during games.
    it works perfectly when typing and stuff, but when playing games (most notably brood war or dota 2), a key doesnt register. i dont ever have this problem with older keyboards, but then again none of them were mechanical so...
    with brood war my biggest problem is when cycling through production buildings i will often find that some of them dont actually start production because my key didnt register. similar stuff for dota, items or skills not being pressed. i dont think its just me being bad because i never have these issues at pc bangs or with previous keyboards, and when typing i hardly ever miss a key. any thoughts? from what ive gathered already the only solution is to get a new keyboard, but that is definitely not what i want to do so im hoping you guys might have some other solutions.

    Welcome to Geekhack!

    Some switches?  All switches?

    Does this happen when normal typing?

    What switches (e.g. MX black)?

    Is it possible that in the heat of the game you are simply not pressing the key all teh way down occasionally?
    thx. the switches are brown, i dont like the feel of black or red. to my knowledge the switches shouldnt affect gaming though, am i wrong?
    it doesnt happen when typing normally, only happens when gaming. not sure if its related to apm either, since brood war takes a lot of apm but dota doesnt really require you to press a lot of keys
    and im definitely pressing enough for the keys to register. sometimes i purposely press harder than i would than when typing just to make sure it registers, but still no luck.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 October 2013, 08:19:15
    Quote from: homojomo on Wed, 09 October 2013, 08:13:42
    thx. the switches are brown, i dont like the feel of black or red. to my knowledge the switches shouldnt affect gaming though, am i wrong?
    it doesnt happen when typing normally, only happens when gaming. not sure if its related to apm either, since brood war takes a lot of apm but dota doesnt really require you to press a lot of keys
    and im definitely pressing enough for the keys to register. sometimes i purposely press harder than i would than when typing just to make sure it registers, but still no luck.

    What keyboard is it? Maybe there's a key roll over problem. (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/) You can search for "xkro" to skip to the part that explains key roll over.

    Quote from: Martyr on Wed, 09 October 2013, 01:44:10
    Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can purchase a Terran eagle keycap. I know feng sells the shield, but I prefer the eagle symbol.

    I thought feng had the eagle symbol on his eBay site as well as the shield. Otherwise, you can ask Shadovved. I know he had a bunch of sets at one point and maybe he still has some. And that is BY FAR MY FAVORITE IRON MAIDEN ALBUM <3. Up the irons!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: homojomo on Wed, 09 October 2013, 09:13:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 October 2013, 08:19:15
    Quote from: homojomo on Wed, 09 October 2013, 08:13:42
    thx. the switches are brown, i dont like the feel of black or red. to my knowledge the switches shouldnt affect gaming though, am i wrong?
    it doesnt happen when typing normally, only happens when gaming. not sure if its related to apm either, since brood war takes a lot of apm but dota doesnt really require you to press a lot of keys
    and im definitely pressing enough for the keys to register. sometimes i purposely press harder than i would than when typing just to make sure it registers, but still no luck.

    What keyboard is it? Maybe there's a key roll over problem. (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/) You can search for "xkro" to skip to the part that explains key roll over.

    mstone sb74. a korean keyboard. really not much info on it, though i did read 5 keys + somewhere
    but the rollover thing shouldnt matter when im using my mouse in between keys. ie mouse click gateway, z, mouse click gateway, z, mouse click gateway, z
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 October 2013, 09:27:59
    Quote from: homojomo on Wed, 09 October 2013, 09:13:22
    mstone sb74. a korean keyboard. really not much info on it, though i did read 5 keys + somewhere
    but the rollover thing shouldnt matter when im using my mouse in between keys. ie mouse click gateway, z, mouse click gateway, z, mouse click gateway, z

    Hm, according to this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12483.0), it should have 6KRO over USB and NKRO over PS/2. *Maybe* hysteresis issues with the Browns? But I played SC2 with Blues and had no issue. Or maybe theres a debounce/chatter issue in the firmware itself. I'm not sure.

    And key roller over matters if you're like me or any other Starcraft player and you mash keys like crazy. I used to spam like 120 APM at the start of the game for giggles. And you're playing BW so your APM is probably higher than mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keymaster on Wed, 09 October 2013, 16:11:35
    Would the PS2AVR87 PCB fit a QuickFire Rapid housing? If not, is there any full-LED 87-key PCB that will?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 16:52:10
    could I get a second opinion other than my own, what profile is this space bar? I know the pics are awful best I can do at the moment.

    [attach=1]

    [attach=2]

    [attach=3]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 09 October 2013, 17:07:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 16:52:10
    could I get a second opinion other than my own, what profile is this space bar? I know the pics are awful best I can do at the moment.

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    look like OEM
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 October 2013, 17:13:38
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 16:52:10
    could I get a second opinion other than my own, what profile is this space bar? I know the pics are awful best I can do at the moment.

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    Can you take the picture again with a known profile cap next to it? Like Cherry or SP DCS?

    Quote from: keymaster on Wed, 09 October 2013, 16:11:35
    1) Would the PS2AVR87 PCB fit a QuickFire Rapid housing?
    2) If not, is there any full-LED 87-key PCB that will?

    1) No, The_Beast and Sifo both confirm that the Function row to Number row spacing are mismatched and won't fit a QFR case. They both own the PCBs.
    2) And no, The_Beast, Sifo, and I couldn't think of a PCB that meets the requirement. You might be able to mod a Ducky PCB to fit the QFR case though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keymaster on Wed, 09 October 2013, 19:35:04
    Aww, sucks. Thanks for the info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 10 October 2013, 06:49:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 October 2013, 17:13:38
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 16:52:10
    could I get a second opinion other than my own, what profile is this space bar? I know the pics are awful best I can do at the moment.

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    Can you take the picture again with a known profile cap next to it? Like Cherry or SP DCS?


    I tried....so are these same profile or not?

    [attachimg=1]

    [attach=2]

    [attach=3]

    [attach=4]

    [attach=5]

    [attach=6]

    [attach=7]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 October 2013, 11:12:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 10 October 2013, 06:49:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 October 2013, 17:13:38
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 16:52:10
    could I get a second opinion other than my own, what profile is this space bar? I know the pics are awful best I can do at the moment.

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    Can you take the picture again with a known profile cap next to it? Like Cherry or SP DCS?


    I tried....so are these same profile or not?

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    Going to guess an OEM from those pictures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Thu, 10 October 2013, 15:26:44
    Probabilly this is the wrong place to post this, but I didn't know where else to post. My apologies.
    How is the build quality of the Keycool 108 II backlit compared to Ducky Zero Shine's?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 10 October 2013, 16:05:09
    Quote from: Narcix on Thu, 10 October 2013, 15:26:44
    Probabilly this is the wrong place to post this, but I didn't know where else to post. My apologies.
    How is the build quality of the Keycool 108 II backlit compared to Ducky Zero Shine's?

    Perhaps not the best one to reply, as I have a KeyCool 87 and Ducky Shine 1 (full size), but the Ducky would probably have the edge, although I wouldn't say there was anything intrinsically wrong with either of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ch0nG on Thu, 10 October 2013, 23:10:58
    Does anyone know when the next MassDrop for the ErgoDox could be?
    How is the ErgoDox in regards to portability? I'm interested in taking it to work but don't want to leave it.

    In case anyone wants to steer me towards something else, my main reasons for getting an ErgoDox are:
    - Size, it seems much smaller and more portable.
    - Programmability. I've messed with Colemak and really like it, I'm not good at it yet but it's coming along OK. :p
    Also, I thought about buying a WASD V2 TKL but then I thought "Why not just get an Ergodox that is 100% programmable?". Of course, the ErgoDox is twice the price of a WASD V2 TKL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 10 October 2013, 23:58:12
    Quote from: Ch0nG on Thu, 10 October 2013, 23:10:58
    Does anyone know when the next MassDrop for the ErgoDox could be?
    How is the ErgoDox in regards to portability? I'm interested in taking it to work but don't want to leave it.

    In case anyone wants to steer me towards something else, my main reasons for getting an ErgoDox are:
    - Size, it seems much smaller and more portable.
    - Programmability. I've messed with Colemak and really like it, I'm not good at it yet but it's coming along OK. :p
    Also, I thought about buying a WASD V2 TKL but then I thought "Why not just get an Ergodox that is 100% programmable?". Of course, the ErgoDox is twice the price of a WASD V2 TKL.
    I'm working on the ErgoTravel, which has all the features of hte ErgoDox, except the thumb cluster and is designed to be something you can carry off the work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AKmalamute on Fri, 11 October 2013, 01:16:23
    Quote from: Ch0nG on Thu, 10 October 2013, 23:10:58
    Does anyone know when the next MassDrop for the ErgoDox could be?
    Can't speak to the rest of it, but they've been averaging every 6+ weeks between end-of-last and beginning-of-next, plus the week or so they're collecting buyers in the middle.

    So, as near as I can tell, "Really soon"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9-bit on Fri, 11 October 2013, 01:55:03
    Do the majority of keyboards work with mac? I had a bad experience with the Noppo choco, so I just wanted to make sure filco/keycool boards would work with it, before I drop the dough. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 11 October 2013, 02:24:44
    Quote from: 9-bit on Fri, 11 October 2013, 01:55:03
    Do the majority of keyboards work with mac? I had a bad experience with the Noppo choco, so I just wanted to make sure filco/keycool boards would work with it, before I drop the dough. Thanks!

    I know the Filco does.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 11 October 2013, 05:04:42
    Quote from: 9-bit on Fri, 11 October 2013, 01:55:03
    Do the majority of keyboards work with mac? I had a bad experience with the Noppo choco, so I just wanted to make sure filco/keycool boards would work with it, before I drop the dough. Thanks!

    I have successfully used the following with a Mac:

    Now that I have a PS/2 to USB adaptor, I would like to try:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 07:56:46
    Are there diodes already on the KMAC PCB from Originative?  Sherryton told me I don't need diodes, but the KMAC DIY thread talks about installing diodes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:03:04
    Quote from: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 07:56:46
    Are there diodes already on the KMAC PCB from Originative?  Sherryton told me I don't need diodes, but the KMAC DIY thread talks about installing diodes?

    Originative is down so I can't double check what KMAC you're referring to. I'm not sure if all the KMAC PCBs come pre populated but there's the KMAC, KMAC LE, KMAC2, KMAC Happy, and KMAC 1.2. I don't know if all of them are the same. My KMAC LE didn't have diodes preinstalled. And I imagine as owner of Originative, Sherryton would know his own products.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ch0nG on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:19:22
    Quote from: AKmalamute on Fri, 11 October 2013, 01:16:23
    as near as I can tell, "Really soon"

    Cool. Thanks for the input.  :thumb:

    Quote from: MOZ on Thu, 10 October 2013, 23:58:12
    I'm working on the ErgoTravel, which has all the features of hte ErgoDox, except the thumb cluster and is designed to be something you can carry off the work.

    That looks great! I might just wait until there is a GB for that. Decisions decisions...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:34:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:03:04
    Quote from: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 07:56:46
    Are there diodes already on the KMAC PCB from Originative?  Sherryton told me I don't need diodes, but the KMAC DIY thread talks about installing diodes?

    Originative is down so I can't double check what KMAC you're referring to. I'm not sure if all the KMAC PCBs come pre populated but there's the KMAC, KMAC LE, KMAC2, KMAC Happy, and KMAC 1.2. I don't know if all of them are the same. My KMAC LE didn't have diodes preinstalled. And I imagine as owner of Originative, Sherryton would know his own products.

    I have the KMAC 2. No offense meant to sherryton ofc! Sherryton was great to deal with and the package arrived in immaculate condition. I was just confused and looking to clarify my confusion!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:42:58
    Quote from: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:34:37
    I have the KMAC 2. the package arrived in immaculate condition.

    Oh if you have it in hand, just snap a picture of the PCB and we'll be able to tell if you diodes are already populated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 09:17:57
    Man CPT thanks for always being here to answer my dumbass questions. If this thread wasn't here I'd probably have started 20 of my own
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9-bit on Fri, 11 October 2013, 11:38:40
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Fri, 11 October 2013, 02:24:44
    Quote from: 9-bit on Fri, 11 October 2013, 01:55:03
    Do the majority of keyboards work with mac? I had a bad experience with the Noppo choco, so I just wanted to make sure filco/keycool boards would work with it, before I drop the dough. Thanks!

    I know the Filco does.
    Alright thank you! I might be getting one soon! Super excited.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 October 2013, 11:54:39
    Quote from: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 09:17:57
    Man CPT thanks for always being here to answer my dumbass questions. If this thread wasn't here I'd probably have started 20 of my own

    No worries! Glad myself and the community have this and other outlets to help people :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 11 October 2013, 17:43:46
    So I have a guy here at work with a space bar that he says is traveling OK but doesn't seem to trigger a keystroke.  He says that he hasn't spilled anything in it and has never had the caps off.  Any suggestions?  I am going to try and pull it off and have a look.  It is on a 2 or 3 year old HP laptop.  By his description and me showing him a couple pics I believe it is scissor switches not chick let key.  How much of a pain are those to pull the space bar?  Anything I need to be aware of?  Going to try this at lunch break breaking in about 4 hours.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 October 2013, 18:27:11
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 11 October 2013, 17:43:46
    So I have a guy here at work with a space bar that he says is traveling OK but doesn't seem to trigger a keystroke.  He says that he hasn't spilled anything in it and has never had the caps off.  Any suggestions?  I am going to try and pull it off and have a look.  It is on a 2 or 3 year old HP laptop.  By his description and me showing him a couple pics I believe it is scissor switches not chick let key.  How much of a pain are those to pull the space bar?  Anything I need to be aware of?  Going to try this at lunch break breaking in about 4 hours.

    Melvang, could be dust trapped between the spacebar and whatever it's connected to. Probably just needs to be disassembled and cleaned.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 11 October 2013, 22:54:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 11 October 2013, 17:43:46
    So I have a guy here at work with a space bar that he says is traveling OK but doesn't seem to trigger a keystroke.  He says that he hasn't spilled anything in it and has never had the caps off.  Any suggestions?  I am going to try and pull it off and have a look.  It is on a 2 or 3 year old HP laptop.  By his description and me showing him a couple pics I believe it is scissor switches not chick let key.  How much of a pain are those to pull the space bar?  Anything I need to be aware of?  Going to try this at lunch break breaking in about 4 hours.

    Maybe too late, but: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12153.0

    I have removed a few scissor switch keycaps from one of my Apple aluminium keyboards.  It is not too difficult if you take your time and be careful.  Once you have done one or two, it becomes much easier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Sat, 12 October 2013, 03:06:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:42:58
    Quote from: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:34:37
    I have the KMAC 2. the package arrived in immaculate condition.

    Oh if you have it in hand, just snap a picture of the PCB and we'll be able to tell if you diodes are already populated.

    Hi CPT!! Attached pic of PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 07:24:53
    Quote from: goobus on Sat, 12 October 2013, 03:06:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:42:58
    Quote from: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:34:37
    I have the KMAC 2. the package arrived in immaculate condition.

    Oh if you have it in hand, just snap a picture of the PCB and we'll be able to tell if you diodes are already populated.

    Hi CPT!! Attached pic of PCB.

    Huh, it doesn't look like there are diodes on that PCB. Looks like my PCB before I built it up. If there were pre-populated diodes, they'd probably be SMD, soldered right above the switch name. So for example, above "Delete", there's 2 horizontal holes with a little box between them? Through hole diodes fit in those horizontal holes and SMD diodes go in the little box. And just be aware you have sacrificial edges on that PCB you'll have to break off so the PCB fits into a case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Sat, 12 October 2013, 07:41:21
    Q: If I plan to change keycaps and have reasonable mod capabilities should I go for QuickFire Rapid or TK? Or there is something else I should look at that is TKL, preferably has backlit keys (yeah I know Rapid does not ;)), allows easy modding and is available in reasonable price in Europe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 08:20:25
    Quote from: bMind on Sat, 12 October 2013, 07:41:21
    Q: If I plan to change keycaps and have reasonable mod capabilities should I go for QuickFire Rapid or TK? Or there is something else I should look at that is TKL, preferably has backlit keys (yeah I know Rapid does not ;)), allows easy modding and is available in reasonable price in Europe?

    First mechanical keyboard? I definitely recommend the QuickFire Rapid. Especially if you plan on changing caps. The TK modifier row doesn't allow you to change keycaps because the sizing is very odd. I think it's 6.2x spacebar, not a 6.25x. There's literally no way you can swap the modifiers around it or the spacebar unless you mod keycaps to fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Sat, 12 October 2013, 08:46:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 08:20:25
    Quote from: bMind on Sat, 12 October 2013, 07:41:21
    Q: If I plan to change keycaps and have reasonable mod capabilities should I go for QuickFire Rapid or TK? Or there is something else I should look at that is TKL, preferably has backlit keys (yeah I know Rapid does not ;)), allows easy modding and is available in reasonable price in Europe?

    First mechanical keyboard? I definitely recommend the QuickFire Rapid. Especially if you plan on changing caps. The TK modifier row doesn't allow you to change keycaps because the sizing is very odd. I think it's 6.2x spacebar, not a 6.25x. There's literally no way you can swap the modifiers around it or the spacebar unless you mod keycaps to fit.

    Yes, this will be first click clack for me :) I really wanted Ducky Shine 3..especially that it will soon be available a TKL version, but I'm really fed up discussing/arranging the shipping and payment at TigerImports..so I think I'll pick something that is available here in Poland. And I can get QFR or QFTK and maybe soon QF Stealth here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 11:19:28
    Quote from: bMind on Sat, 12 October 2013, 08:46:35
    Yes, this will be first click clack for me :) I really wanted Ducky Shine 3..especially that it will soon be available a TKL version, but I'm really fed up discussing/arranging the shipping and payment at TigerImports

    Surprised you had a bad experience with TigerImports. They're the same company as Mechanicalkeyboards.com. Have you talked to ShakeR or JoshMK here on GH?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Sat, 12 October 2013, 11:50:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 11:19:28
    Surprised you had a bad experience with TigerImports. They're the same company as Mechanicalkeyboards.com. Have you talked to ShakeR or JoshMK here on GH?

    Yeah, I know they're the same company and no, I haven't talked to any of the guys. After a week of emails going back and forth with the sales rep that picked up my question I really kinda lost will to continue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 11:59:33
    goobus, there are diodes already installed on that pcb. See the photo below :
    (http://i.imgur.com/0pzq2XR.png)
    The little black rectangles that are soldered on are the diodes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 12 October 2013, 14:17:04
    Quick question

    How do I figure out what size my spacebar is?

    Mainly to know if my keycool 84's spacebar is 6.25x
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 14:21:30
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 12 October 2013, 14:17:04
    Quick question

    How do I figure out what size my spacebar is?

    Mainly to know if my keycool 84's spacebar is 6.25x
    There are 16 1x keys on the keycools top row. So, the size of an entire row is 16x.
    On the bottom row you can see six 1x keys, and three 1.25x keys (and of course the spacebar)
    16-(6x1)-(3x1.25)
    =16-6-3.75
    =16-9.75
    =6.25

    Hope this helps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 12 October 2013, 14:31:33
    It does. Thank you
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 14:37:01
    Miscounted the keys in the top row... Edited :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 12 October 2013, 15:07:25
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 14:37:01
    Miscounted the keys in the top row... Edited :))

    But your math was wrong too so it worked out in the end
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:06:55
    Quote from: goobus on Sat, 12 October 2013, 03:06:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:42:58
    Quote from: goobus on Fri, 11 October 2013, 08:34:37
    I have the KMAC 2. the package arrived in immaculate condition.

    Oh if you have it in hand, just snap a picture of the PCB and we'll be able to tell if you diodes are already populated.

    Hi CPT!! Attached pic of PCB.

    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 11:59:33
    goobus, there are diodes already installed on that pcb. See the photo below :
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/0pzq2XR.png)

    The little black rectangles that are soldered on are the diodes.


    Um are you sure Photekq? Look at the largest version of the picture in the post I linked. At F, there's an SMD component installed and then F looks blank. I know the diodes are kinda hard to see when they're installed but they're not completely black. And at Caps there's an SMD diode installed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:15:55
    Those black things under each switch hole are SMD diodes. I can take a picture of them on my PCB if you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:18:52
    Those black spaces are where the SMD diodes can go. I'm not convinced that they're actually there.  Think we need a better angle/picture from goodbus. And sure, take a picture. I have a KMAC PCB too and it looked empty like that. Although I'm not sure since the solder joints do look melted.

    Edit: Dorkvader and Sifo agree with Photekq though so apparently I'm being outvoted. goobus, just run your hand along that spot. Is there something there or does it feel like the rest of the PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:21:36
    My SMD diodes are totally black, and I'm totally convinced that those black 'spaces' are in fact the diodes. I bought my ver1.4 PCB, the same one goobus has, from kbdmod, and it came with diodes presoldered.

    Will take a photo shortly..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:25:09
    Looks to me that the board is fully (or almost fully) populated with SMD diodes. The solder joints would look different if there were nothing there. They would be symmetrical rounded squares, yhou can see how the sodler has wicked up to the component in the way the light reflects.

    Here's a link to the large version:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40501.0;attach=38753;image


    You can even see printing on some (lctrl, D, ralt etc.)

    I dont think capslock has a diode on the KMAC's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 17:59:16
    Bad photo but..
    (http://i.imgur.com/JosHYOW.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 12 October 2013, 20:37:30
    Does the Cherry G80-11900 have the same PCB mounted switches with no plate? I feel like modding a keyboard but don't feel like buying a soldering iron just yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:01:19
    which cherry board can I get the doubleshot keycaps that have gray mod?  I can only found 1 on ebay, but the price is really expensive  :( all other have white or black
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:22:38
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:01:19
    which cherry board can I get the doubleshot keycaps that have gray mod?  I can only found 1 on ebay, but the price is really expensive  :( all other have white or black

    Are you looking for 1.5x mods, 1.25x, or the 1x?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:24:47
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:22:38
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:01:19
    which cherry board can I get the doubleshot keycaps that have gray mod?  I can only found 1 on ebay, but the price is really expensive  :( all other have white or black

    Are you looking for 1.5x mods, 1.25x, or the 1x?

    actually I am just looking for the "Tab" key
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:37:24
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Sat, 12 October 2013, 20:37:30
    Does the Cherry G80-11900 have the same PCB mounted switches with no plate? I feel like modding a keyboard but don't feel like buying a soldering iron just yet.

    Looking at Glod's pictures (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48953.msg1063286#msg1063286), the G80-11900 is plate mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:39:33
    All G80 boards (unless there are a few obscure exceptions I haven't seen) are PCB mounted, including the 11900.

    I ain't seeing a plate in those photos cpt. :eek:

    @jonathan there are a metric ton of cherry boards with the classic two tone keycaps. too many to list here. look for g80 and g81 boards - they both have mx compatible caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:46:33
    That black thing isn't a plate? Eh. Whatever. Guess it's PCB mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:48:03
    Nah, that's a pcb mang. If it were a plate it'd cover up the bottom half of the switches and wouldn't have all those jumper wires on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:51:10
    Looked at it and thought the daughterboard was something else. Oh well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:54:12
    @ CPTBadAss & Photekq - Thank you for the response. I though it would be PCB mounted but it's been a long time since I've played with the 11900 or 11800 series.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:56:30
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:39:33
    All G80 boards (unless there are a few obscure exceptions I haven't seen) are PCB mounted, including the 11900.

    I ain't seeing a plate in those photos cpt. :eek:

    @jonathan there are a metric ton of cherry boards with the classic two tone keycaps. too many to list here. look for g80 and g81 boards - they both have mx compatible caps.

    are all of them have doubleshot caps?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:46:33
    That black thing isn't a plate? Eh. Whatever. Guess it's PCB mounted.

    that black thing is the pcb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 13 October 2013, 00:00:42
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:56:30
    are all of them have doubleshot caps?
    No, not all of them. But a fair deal of them do. You can use the model numbers to tell if they are doubleshot - see here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers). It's also quite easy to tell from just looking at them.. the text on doubleshots should be a very clear black, text on dyesub should be a very dark grey, text on lasered should be a lightish grey.

    It's worth noting that cherry keyboards ISO sets are much easier to find, if you're happy with the ISO tab (two arrows, no 'tab' text - my personal favourite tab)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 13 October 2013, 00:46:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 13 October 2013, 00:00:42
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:56:30
    are all of them have doubleshot caps?
    No, not all of them. But a fair deal of them do. You can use the model numbers to tell if they are doubleshot - see here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers). It's also quite easy to tell from just looking at them.. the text on doubleshots should be a very clear black, text on dyesub should be a very dark grey, text on lasered should be a lightish grey.

    It's worth noting that cherry keyboards ISO sets are much easier to find, if you're happy with the ISO tab (two arrows, no 'tab' text - my personal favourite tab)

    After some searching on , I can only find one board is doubeshot and have gray mod. and it has a " no tab" tab(two arrow), the board itself is in a pretty good price, but shipping to us is $40  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Sun, 13 October 2013, 02:51:46
    Hey guys here's a close up of a prt of the PCB. I see there are SMD diodes here but there are 2 holes to either side of the SMD am I supposed to fill those in with solder?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Sun, 13 October 2013, 03:18:34
    Those are there if you decide you want to go with though hole diodes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Sun, 13 October 2013, 05:50:11
    More quick questions ;)

    Q1: Are QuickFire Rapids I can see on Amazon (sold directly from Amazon) all come in black now? No gray case?
    Q2: Anyone heard about a successor to QFR?
    Q3: When talking about build quality is QuickFire Rapid and WASD V2 on the same level? I'm considering WASD because I can customize the board and get it with customized caps set 'out of the box', while with QFR I will have to order it separately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 13 October 2013, 09:00:10
    Quote from: bMind on Sun, 13 October 2013, 05:50:11
    Q1: Are QuickFire Rapids I can see on Amazon (sold directly from Amazon) all come in black now? No gray case?
    Q2: Anyone heard about a successor to QFR?
    Q3: When talking about build quality is QuickFire Rapid and WASD V2 on the same level? I'm considering WASD because I can customize the board and get it with customized caps set 'out of the box', while with QFR I will have to order it separately.

    Q1) I think the grey cases were the older models so yes, you're right.
    Q2) No.
    Q3) I've heard the WASD PCBs aren't that great, talked to Sifo about this. And I don't like the WASD keycaps. They feel thinner than SP caps to me. If I had to pick between the QFR and WASD based on caps, I'd easily choose the QFR. But other than those two complaints, I've heard that most people are very satisfied with their WASD keyboards. I personally have only typed on one for a few minutes so I don't have a very good impression of them one way or another.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Sun, 13 October 2013, 09:35:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 13 October 2013, 09:00:10
    Q1) I think the grey cases were the older models so yes, you're right.
    Q2) No.
    Q3) I've heard the WASD PCBs aren't that great, talked to Sifo about this. And I don't like the WASD keycaps. They feel thinner than SP caps to me. If I had to pick between the QFR and WASD based on caps, I'd easily choose the QFR. But other than those two complaints, I've heard that most people are very satisfied with their WASD keyboards. I personally have only typed on one for a few minutes so I don't have a very good impression of them one way or another.

    Thank you good sir, always helpful :)

    I think generally there is a problem with QFR availability in Europe, at least when it comes to MX Browns. So I might end up picking one from Amazon. Though it's a pain that shipping cost will be almost equal to price of the board itself :/ And I want white caps soo much @__@

    I could wait for some restock of course but I don't know..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Narcix on Sun, 13 October 2013, 14:09:21
    Is ttesports meka linux compatible?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 13 October 2013, 14:29:16
    Quote from: Narcix on Sun, 13 October 2013, 14:09:21
    Is ttesports meka linux compatible?

    If you can install it like it was a normal keyboard than yes....but the extra function keys may not work (volume, winlock, etc).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 13 October 2013, 14:40:41
    Quote from: MOZ on Sun, 13 October 2013, 03:18:34
    Those are there if you decide you want to go with though hole diodes.

    Which, to be clear, you would not do in this case, since there are SMD diodes there already.  You would only decide to do that if you were building it up fresh and there weren't diodes at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 13 October 2013, 17:07:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 October 2013, 23:46:33
    That black thing isn't a plate? Eh. Whatever. Guess it's PCB mounted.

    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7383/10233273845_42a66fd6e9_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/99760972@N03/10233273845/)

    PCB Mounted is a golden cherry rule bro
    While it's black on one side, it's the Cherry PCB itself
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kansas city shuffle on Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:51:14
    Has anyone came across any problems with their WASD replacement key caps staying on?

    I've noticed that on my new key cap set after a few days of use that a few caps pop off when typing on my Filco Majestouch 2/104. This is after I've pressed them down thoroughly, is this just me (with a bum set) or has anyone else come across this?

    Cheers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:54:49
    Quote from: kansas city shuffle on Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:51:14
    Has anyone came across any problems with their WASD replacement key caps staying on?

    I've noticed that on my new key cap set after a few days of use that a few caps pop off when typing on my Filco Majestouch 2/104. This is after I've pressed them down thoroughly, is this just me (with a bum set) or has anyone else come across this?

    Cheers!

    Which caps specifically? The mods?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 14 October 2013, 04:47:05
    Quote from: kansas city shuffle on Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:51:14
    Has anyone came across any problems with their WASD replacement key caps staying on?

    I've noticed that on my new key cap set after a few days of use that a few caps pop off when typing on my Filco Majestouch 2/104. This is after I've pressed them down thoroughly, is this just me (with a bum set) or has anyone else come across this?

    Cheers!

    Welcome to Geekhack!

    Key caps should sit firmly on the keys.  If you can turn the keyboard upside down and tap it on the desk and have key caps fall off - they are way too loose.

    One solution is to put small squares of, say, plastic ziploc bag over the stem under the key cap before you press the key cap down onto the switch.  This method works very well for Costar stabiliser inserts - no reason why it should not work for 1x key caps too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 October 2013, 15:03:33
    Quote from: kansas city shuffle on Mon, 14 October 2013, 03:51:14
    Has anyone came across any problems with their WASD replacement key caps staying on?

    I've noticed that on my new key cap set after a few days of use that a few caps pop off when typing on my Filco Majestouch 2/104. This is after I've pressed them down thoroughly, is this just me (with a bum set) or has anyone else come across this?

    Cheers!

    WASD has great customer service.  You might want to inquire with them if there's anything they can do to help you with this issue.

    That said, I've never had an issue like you've described, but in the short term the suggestion from rowdy can get you by.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 19:53:09
    So I took off my left shift on my keycool 84 to put a big blue O ring from my wasd sampler. Tried to put the cap back on, but the stabs don't stay in place, so if you lift it up, the stab falls out and when you bottom out, the wire goes between the case and the cap.

    Any fixes? I'm typing without a stab right now and its pretty weird (plus pretty sure it applies some stress on the switch)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:14:26
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 19:53:09
    So I took off my left shift on my keycool 84 to put a big blue O ring from my wasd sampler. Tried to put the cap back on, but the stabs don't stay in place, so if you lift it up, the stab falls out and when you bottom out, the wire goes between the case and the cap.

    Any fixes? I'm typing without a stab right now and its pretty weird (plus pretty sure it applies some stress on the switch)

    Try pushing the stabilizer plug in with a piece of a plastic bag or a tissue around it. That should make it tight enough to stay in place.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:15:24
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 19:53:09
    So I took off my left shift on my keycool 84 to put a big blue O ring from my wasd sampler. Tried to put the cap back on, but the stabs don't stay in place, so if you lift it up, the stab falls out and when you bottom out, the wire goes between the case and the cap.

    Any fixes? I'm typing without a stab right now and its pretty weird (plus pretty sure it applies some stress on the switch)

    Put a small square of something, say plastic ziplock sandwich bag, over the stem before you put the insert in.

    Ninja'd - is this in the OP?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:31:58
    Its not the cap that won't stay in, its the stab. Its loose and moves out(but still attached to cap). The other stabs don't do that
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:34:10
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:31:58
    Its not the cap that won't stay in, its the stab. Its loose and moves out(but still attached to cap). The other stabs don't do that
    Costar stab?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:49:56
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:34:10
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:31:58
    Its not the cap that won't stay in, its the stab. Its loose and moves out(but still attached to cap). The other stabs don't do that
    Costar stab?

    Don't know what stabs are what, but its the wire stab, and not the cherry stab with the + switch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lilky on Mon, 14 October 2013, 21:31:31
    So I've tried out 4 different brands of MX blue keyboards extensively now: Leopold FC200R, Razer Blackwidow (for ****s and giggles), CM QFR, and Filco MJ2.

    Strangely enough, two of the keyboards, the Filco and the BW, had blue switches that were extremely light and felt like browns except with the tactile click. The switches on the Leopold felt much heavier, and the QFR felt even heavier, almost like green switches. I've tried out multiple Filcos and BWs, so I know that production batch has nothing to do with it. I have only tried out one Leopold FC200R and one QFR though.

    What's even stranger is that the OEM for Filco and CM is Costar, while the OEM for Leopold and Razer is Cherry. What is this madness?!

    Does anyone know why there appears to be 2 different types of blue switches on the market? There appears to be a light, ~45g blue switch and a much heavier ~55-60g blue switch. I absolutely loathe the feeling of heavy switches and would like to buy a keyboard with the lighter versions of the blues, but now I'm scared to buy more blue keyboards because I have no way of knowing whether they will be the heavy type or the light type. Can someone shed some light on this please?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Mon, 14 October 2013, 22:36:37
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 13 October 2013, 14:40:41
    Quote from: MOZ on Sun, 13 October 2013, 03:18:34
    Those are there if you decide you want to go with though hole diodes.

    Which, to be clear, you would not do in this case, since there are SMD diodes there already.  You would only decide to do that if you were building it up fresh and there weren't diodes at all.

    Thanks. So would I need to fill in the hole with solder even though I'm not using through hole diodes?  My guess is no right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 October 2013, 22:39:10
    Quote from: goobus on Mon, 14 October 2013, 22:36:37
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 13 October 2013, 14:40:41
    Quote from: MOZ on Sun, 13 October 2013, 03:18:34
    Those are there if you decide you want to go with though hole diodes.

    Which, to be clear, you would not do in this case, since there are SMD diodes there already.  You would only decide to do that if you were building it up fresh and there weren't diodes at all.

    Thanks. So would I need to fill in the hole with solder even though I'm not using through hole diodes?  My guess is no right?

    No, if you have SMD diodes installed, the through holes are redundant.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 October 2013, 22:39:17
    Quote from: goobus on Mon, 14 October 2013, 22:36:37
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 13 October 2013, 14:40:41
    Quote from: MOZ on Sun, 13 October 2013, 03:18:34
    Those are there if you decide you want to go with though hole diodes.

    Which, to be clear, you would not do in this case, since there are SMD diodes there already.  You would only decide to do that if you were building it up fresh and there weren't diodes at all.

    Thanks. So would I need to fill in the hole with solder even though I'm not using through hole diodes?  My guess is no right?

    You are correct, you do not need to fill them in.  If you think about it, what would that accomplish?  The pads are metal all the way around the hole, so there is no "gap" to bridge with solder.  You're good to go as far as diodes are concerned.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 23:24:10
    I'm thinking of making either a pad similar to the razer orbweaver or a custom numpad with extra macros.

    I do debate, and we use computers to do research and whatnot. We have some custom macros to organize everything, and a pad would make hitting the F# macros much easier.

    I assume I would need  the PCB, case, and switches. Where would I go for custom PCB and cases? Thinking of using ergo clears as the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 October 2013, 23:59:09
    Quote from: lilky on Mon, 14 October 2013, 21:31:31
    Does anyone know why there appears to be 2 different types of blue switches on the market?

    Check this thread out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43160.msg878756#msg878756). Cherry isn't the OEM for Leopold and Filco. And there's not two different types on Blues on the market. Just one.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 23:24:10
    Where would I go for custom PCB and cases?

    Custom PCBs can be made at PCBWing and cases you'll have to get it designed and cut. I think AcidFire (The User) and BigBlueSaw (the website) will cut acrylic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: acer589 on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:01:53
    I got a Type Heaven and I need to turn the spacebar around. How the **** do I do that? I tried pulling it, and it seemed like it REALLY didn't want to come.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: acer589 on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:14:42
    Nevermind, searched that **** a little harder and found it. Was worried the stabilizers were one-way, but it all worked out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:17:13
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 19:53:09
    So I took off my left shift on my keycool 84 to put a big blue O ring from my wasd sampler. Tried to put the cap back on, but the stabs don't stay in place, so if you lift it up, the stab falls out and when you bottom out, the wire goes between the case and the cap.

    Any fixes? I'm typing without a stab right now and its pretty weird (plus pretty sure it applies some stress on the switch)

    Does anyone have a fix? Its the stab thats not staying in place. I believe its costar (its a wire).

    It stays in place until you lift it up and then it slides out of place, but none of the other stabs do that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:39:28
    Thanks everyone who helped, will post iphone potato pics when it's assembled with dolch set!! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 October 2013, 03:52:48
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 15 October 2013, 01:17:13
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 19:53:09
    So I took off my left shift on my keycool 84 to put a big blue O ring from my wasd sampler. Tried to put the cap back on, but the stabs don't stay in place, so if you lift it up, the stab falls out and when you bottom out, the wire goes between the case and the cap.

    Any fixes? I'm typing without a stab right now and its pretty weird (plus pretty sure it applies some stress on the switch)

    Does anyone have a fix? Its the stab thats not staying in place. I believe its costar (its a wire).

    It stays in place until you lift it up and then it slides out of place, but none of the other stabs do that.

    Don't bump your questions.

    It helps when you do a bit of Google research and tell us what stabilizer you have exactly. I have no idea what you're looking at. Both a Cherry and Costar stablizer use a wire so that's not helping.

    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1824.jpg)
    (Picture borrowed from WhiteFireDragon (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.msg698183#msg698183).

    Is it the top (Costar) or the bottom (Cherry) stabilizer? If it's the top one, there has been an answer for your question already.

    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:15:24
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 19:53:09
    So I took off my left shift on my keycool 84 to put a big blue O ring from my wasd sampler. Tried to put the cap back on, but the stabs don't stay in place, so if you lift it up, the stab falls out and when you bottom out, the wire goes between the case and the cap.

    Any fixes? I'm typing without a stab right now and its pretty weird (plus pretty sure it applies some stress on the switch)

    Put a small square of something, say plastic ziplock sandwich bag, over the stem before you put the insert in.

    Ninja'd - is this in the OP?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: genkidama on Tue, 15 October 2013, 06:34:28
    I'm relatively new to geekhack and am reading a lot and got some questions in my head.  :cool:

    I'm just wondering about keycaps. I'm reading about PBT, ABS, POM. Are the POM keycaps backlit-friendlier than the others?? It seems that way for me.
    Or are all keycaps that a laser-engraved backlit-friendly, when they are not with infill? Is it even possible to make backlit-friendly comic logo keycaps that are thoroughly lit? Like the Batman signal with a white LED underneath it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tokiloki on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:50:38
    Hey there geekhack.org community,

    so I've been thinking about building my own mechanical keyboard . I have experiences in soldering.

    Is there any  guide , tutorial or explanations of how to build an own mechanical keyboard or is it even possible ?

    I'd like to hear some feedback thanks .

    And is there any switch which is as light as the MX Brown switch or MX Red but has that clicky sound as the MX Blue one?

    Thanks

    Tokiloki 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:56:15
    Blue is pretty light.

    Check out the making stuff together subforum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:59:07
    Quote from: Tokiloki on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:50:38
    1. Is there any  guide , tutorial or explanations of how to build an own mechanical keyboard or is it even possible ?
    2. And is there any switch which is as light as the MX Brown switch or MX Red but has that clicky sound as the MX Blue one?

    1. There are quite a few threads that might help you, check out the "Making stuff together!" subforum, most people that built their own keyboard documented it quite well. Also take a lok at the Prototyping New Keyboard Designs (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0) thread.
    2. MX Blues have the the same spring inside as reds or browns. If you want a lighter switch, you will have to swap the springs in the switches with some from Originative for example (their 55g and 45g springs are lighter than the ones from blues).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:59:36
    Quote from: Tokiloki on Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:50:38
    Hey there geekhack.org community,

    so I've been thinking about building my own mechanical keyboard . I have experiences in soldering.

    Is there any  guide , tutorial or explanations of how to build an own mechanical keyboard or is it even possible ?

    I'd like to hear some feedback thanks .

    And is there any switch which is as light as the MX Brown switch or MX Red but has that clicky sound as the MX Blue one?

    Thanks

    Tokiloki 

    MX Blues use the same springs as MX Browns and Reds, so there isn't a lighter clicky switch. As for building a custom board, someone more qualified can answer those questions (as I have never built a custom board) but I have seen many threads of people building their own boards in the making stuff together (http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=117.0) subforum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:13:58
    Filco keyboards have Costar stabilizers (Filco Majestouch 2 TKL to be precise), correct?
    Are the caps better/worse than the ones on QFR (beside the ugly font on QFR of course :P) and how they compare to thick PBTs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: genkidama on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:37:36
    I just wanted to say that my questions are all answered.

    Thanks anyways :]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:41:25
    Quote from: bMind on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:13:58
    1) Filco keyboards have Costar stabilizers (Filco Majestouch 2 TKL to be precise), correct?
    2) Are the caps better/worse than the ones on QFR (beside the ugly font on QFR of course :P)
    3) how they compare to thick PBTs?

    1) Yes
    2) They're ok, I hate the coating on the QFR caps. But they're SP-thin ABS caps.
    3) They're not as thick and feel different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Tue, 15 October 2013, 18:02:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:41:25
    1) Yes
    2) They're ok, I hate the coating on the QFR caps. But they're SP-thin ABS caps.
    3) They're not as thick and feel different.

    Thank you :)

    QFR with shipping and tax will be around $121, while Filco $204. And since I want dark grey PBT caps (though I don't know when I'll be able to grab them since they're kinda pricey), I was wondering if $80 more for Filco is justified by just the fact that I will have to look at the ugly font on QFR for some time (months probably :P). Thought it's probably more than the caps..like build/PCB quality, modding capabilities etc. But still as far as I've read, they're not miles away from each other. This will be my first, but probably the only mechanical keyboard for a long time so it's not really 'ah, I'll get QFR now because I'll be getting a Filco later either way'..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 15 October 2013, 23:44:17
    How much does a turquoise gas mask cost? I want to buy one but missed the sale.

    Generally how much do these limited edition caps sell for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 15 October 2013, 23:50:22
    It was $15 new plus shipping.  You might get some people trying to sell thing for $30+, but, honestly, I wouldn't pay more than $20-25 shipped for one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:36:54
    Please read the OP guys, don't ask about pricing here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:49:53
    Quote from: lilky on Mon, 14 October 2013, 21:31:31
    So I've tried out 4 different brands of MX blue keyboards extensively now: Leopold FC200R, Razer Blackwidow (for ****s and giggles), CM QFR, and Filco MJ2.

    Strangely enough, two of the keyboards, the Filco and the BW, had blue switches that were extremely light and felt like browns except with the tactile click. The switches on the Leopold felt much heavier, and the QFR felt even heavier, almost like green switches. I've tried out multiple Filcos and BWs, so I know that production batch has nothing to do with it. I have only tried out one Leopold FC200R and one QFR though.

    What's even stranger is that the OEM for Filco and CM is Costar, while the OEM for Leopold and Razer is Cherry. What is this madness?!

    Does anyone know why there appears to be 2 different types of blue switches on the market? There appears to be a light, ~45g blue switch and a much heavier ~55-60g blue switch. I absolutely loathe the feeling of heavy switches and would like to buy a keyboard with the lighter versions of the blues, but now I'm scared to buy more blue keyboards because I have no way of knowing whether they will be the heavy type or the light type. Can someone shed some light on this please?

    My take on this would probably come down to different caps.  The material of the caps can have a HUGE impact on the feeling of the weight of the switches.  Lighter caps will make the switches "feel" heavier since the weight of the cap isn't providing as much preload on the spring in the switch.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 23:24:10
    I'm thinking of making either a pad similar to the razer orbweaver or a custom numpad with extra macros.

    I do debate, and we use computers to do research and whatnot. We have some custom macros to organize everything, and a pad would make hitting the F# macros much easier.

    I assume I would need  the PCB, case, and switches. Where would I go for custom PCB and cases? Thinking of using ergo clears as the switch.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 23:24:10
    I'm thinking of making either a pad similar to the razer orbweaver or a custom numpad with extra macros.

    I do debate, and we use computers to do research and whatnot. We have some custom macros to organize everything, and a pad would make hitting the F# macros much easier.

    I assume I would need  the PCB, case, and switches. Where would I go for custom PCB and cases? Thinking of using ergo clears as the switch.

    If you have room for it my personal suggestion for this would be half an ergodox.  Just for the reason that cases and pcbs are already designed which will take a lot of the headache and some of the cost out of the equation.  Plus it will have more than enough switches for what ever possible macros you could ever think of making for a workstation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 16 October 2013, 18:52:25
    How do you remove cherry plate mounted stabilizers? I was able to find a video on costar ones, however I was unable to find one on cherry stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 16 October 2013, 19:00:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 16 October 2013, 00:49:53
    Quote from: lilky on Mon, 14 October 2013, 21:31:31
    So I've tried out 4 different brands of MX blue keyboards extensively now: Leopold FC200R, Razer Blackwidow (for ****s and giggles), CM QFR, and Filco MJ2.

    Strangely enough, two of the keyboards, the Filco and the BW, had blue switches that were extremely light and felt like browns except with the tactile click. The switches on the Leopold felt much heavier, and the QFR felt even heavier, almost like green switches. I've tried out multiple Filcos and BWs, so I know that production batch has nothing to do with it. I have only tried out one Leopold FC200R and one QFR though.

    What's even stranger is that the OEM for Filco and CM is Costar, while the OEM for Leopold and Razer is Cherry. What is this madness?!

    Does anyone know why there appears to be 2 different types of blue switches on the market? There appears to be a light, ~45g blue switch and a much heavier ~55-60g blue switch. I absolutely loathe the feeling of heavy switches and would like to buy a keyboard with the lighter versions of the blues, but now I'm scared to buy more blue keyboards because I have no way of knowing whether they will be the heavy type or the light type. Can someone shed some light on this please?

    My take on this would probably come down to different caps.  The material of the caps can have a HUGE impact on the feeling of the weight of the switches.  Lighter caps will make the switches "feel" heavier since the weight of the cap isn't providing as much preload on the spring in the switch.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 23:24:10
    I'm thinking of making either a pad similar to the razer orbweaver or a custom numpad with extra macros.

    I do debate, and we use computers to do research and whatnot. We have some custom macros to organize everything, and a pad would make hitting the F# macros much easier.

    I assume I would need  the PCB, case, and switches. Where would I go for custom PCB and cases? Thinking of using ergo clears as the switch.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 14 October 2013, 23:24:10
    I'm thinking of making either a pad similar to the razer orbweaver or a custom numpad with extra macros.

    I do debate, and we use computers to do research and whatnot. We have some custom macros to organize everything, and a pad would make hitting the F# macros much easier.

    I assume I would need  the PCB, case, and switches. Where would I go for custom PCB and cases? Thinking of using ergo clears as the switch.

    If you have room for it my personal suggestion for this would be half an ergodox.  Just for the reason that cases and pcbs are already designed which will take a lot of the headache and some of the cost out of the equation.  Plus it will have more than enough switches for what ever possible macros you could ever think of making for a workstation.

    And then when I get enough money for the other half, I'll have an ergodox!

    Hmm, if the GHpad isn't too expensive, I'll do this
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: m1_account on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:36:10
    seems like a stupid question that I'm 99% sure of the answer for anyway, but
    If you're using a USB to PS/2 adapter, do you still get the input lag inherent in connection via USB?

    And if so, why do pretty much all the popular mech keyboards connect primarily via USB, using PS/2 only via adapter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:37:22
    Quote from: m1_account on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:36:10
    seems like a stupid question that I'm 99% sure of the answer for anyway, but
    If you're using a USB to PS/2 adapter, do you still get the input lag inherent in connection via USB?

    And if so, why do pretty much all the popular mech keyboards connect primarily via USB, using PS/2 only via adapter?

    Most modern computer especially laptops don't have PS/2 ports.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: m1_account on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:41:02
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:37:22
    Quote from: m1_account on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:36:10
    seems like a stupid question that I'm 99% sure of the answer for anyway, but
    If you're using a USB to PS/2 adapter, do you still get the input lag inherent in connection via USB?

    And if so, why do pretty much all the popular mech keyboards connect primarily via USB, using PS/2 only via adapter?

    Most modern computer especially laptops don't have PS/2 ports.

    Then they could use PS/2 to USB adapters. My Adesso came with one, I don't see why others do it the other way around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:47:07
    Quote from: m1_account on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:36:10
    seems like a stupid question that I'm 99% sure of the answer for anyway, but
    If you're using a USB to PS/2 adapter, do you still get the input lag inherent in connection via USB?

    And if so, why do pretty much all the popular mech keyboards connect primarily via USB, using PS/2 only via adapter?

    What lag do you speak of? Anyway, most USB keyboards these days provide 6KRO over USB and NKRO over PS/2. SpamRay is correct. Most computers these days are not coming with PS/2 ports.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: m1_account on Thu, 17 October 2013, 13:22:58
    Forget my question entirely. My idea of PS/2 having less input lag than USB was based on outdated/inaccurate information. Thanks for the answers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 17 October 2013, 13:59:00
    Just got my HHKB2 in the mail. It's great, but the left side doesn't stay stuck to the desk very well, it slides around very easily. Has anyone else had this issue? Is it possible that the case is slightly warped? The rubber foot on the left side seems identical to the one on the right so I don't think it's that.

    Very small nitpick, and it doesn't move around unless I push it from the front or back, but when I pay $260 for a keyboard I expect it to be perfect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Game Theory on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:09:08
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 17 October 2013, 13:59:00
    Just got my HHKB2 in the mail. It's great, but the left side doesn't stay stuck to the desk very well, it slides around very easily. Has anyone else had this issue? Is it possible that the case is slightly warped? The rubber foot on the left side seems identical to the one on the right so I don't think it's that. ...
    You probably checked but is your desktop warped?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:18:01
    Quote from: Game Theory on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:09:08
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 17 October 2013, 13:59:00
    Just got my HHKB2 in the mail. It's great, but the left side doesn't stay stuck to the desk very well, it slides around very easily. Has anyone else had this issue? Is it possible that the case is slightly warped? The rubber foot on the left side seems identical to the one on the right so I don't think it's that. ...
    You probably checked but is your desktop warped?

    I tried it on a few surfaces, it didn't change.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 18 October 2013, 05:45:38
    What could making handwiring keyboard without diode? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 18 October 2013, 06:01:52
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 18 October 2013, 05:45:38
    What could making handwiring keyboard without diode? :)

    I believe that you could build a keyboard using a handwired matrix and no diodes but if my limited knowledge is correct it would function but it would essentially be 0KRO
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 18 October 2013, 06:43:44
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 17 October 2013, 13:59:00
    Just got my HHKB2 in the mail. It's great, but the left side doesn't stay stuck to the desk very well, it slides around very easily. Has anyone else had this issue? Is it possible that the case is slightly warped?

    I think I read about people having slightly warped HHKB cases before so it could be that. Look if one side does not stay on the surface. What you could do is put some additional self adhesive rubber feet on the bottom of the case, that should solve the issue with no risk of damaging the HHKB.

    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 18 October 2013, 05:45:38
    What could making handwiring keyboard without diode? :)

    You could do that but you would probably have to adjust the Teensy code for that (else it might have ghosting, depending on the code). I would recommend just buying some diodes from ebay or a local electronics store, 100 should cost about 1-2$.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 07:47:26
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:18:01
    Quote from: Game Theory on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:09:08
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 17 October 2013, 13:59:00
    Just got my HHKB2 in the mail. It's great, but the left side doesn't stay stuck to the desk very well, it slides around very easily. Has anyone else had this issue? Is it possible that the case is slightly warped? The rubber foot on the left side seems identical to the one on the right so I don't think it's that. ...
    You probably checked but is your desktop warped?

    I tried it on a few surfaces, it didn't change.
    I put some 3M pads (bump- ons) on the bottom of my HHKB on the four corners and it stops it from moving around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaspar on Fri, 18 October 2013, 07:57:20
    What is the merit of having the actuation point around the middle point of the mechanical switch instead of at the bottom? If it's to have shorter key travel then why not just make shorter keys. It seems to me that it would make more sense for a switch like Cherry MX Red to actuate around the bottom.

    Mind you that I have very little real life experience with mechanical keyboards and I'm just theoritizing here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 18 October 2013, 08:13:05
    When the actuation point is on the bottom of the keystroke like rubber domes then you are forced to bottom out the keys.  This can and will lead to RSI.  This is also a good reason for such a long keystroke (approx 4mm for Cherry MX keys) if you can develop the muscle memory you can type without bottoming out the keys and almost eliminate RSI.  Carpal tunnel on the other hand can still rear its ugly head. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 18 October 2013, 08:17:43
    Quote from: Kaspar on Fri, 18 October 2013, 07:57:20
    1. What is the merit of having the actuation point around the middle point of the mechanical switch instead of at the bottom? If it's to have shorter key travel then why not just make shorter keys.
    2. It seems to me that it would make more sense for a switch like Cherry MX Red to actuate around the bottom.

    1. For most typists it's faster and more comfortable to not press the keys all the way down, imagine comparing jumping from one trampoline on another to jumping from one piece of concrete on another. It reduces the "shock" on your finger, if that makes any sense. This is also more ergonomic as Melvang just said.
    2. Even for linear switches some people prefer just jumping from one key to another without pressing it all the way down, and people who prefer pressing it all the way down can still do that. Also because Cherry uses some parts for all switches, they can save some production costs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 18 October 2013, 12:09:55
    Quote from: MJ45 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 07:47:26
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:18:01
    Quote from: Game Theory on Thu, 17 October 2013, 14:09:08
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 17 October 2013, 13:59:00
    Just got my HHKB2 in the mail. It's great, but the left side doesn't stay stuck to the desk very well, it slides around very easily. Has anyone else had this issue? Is it possible that the case is slightly warped? The rubber foot on the left side seems identical to the one on the right so I don't think it's that. ...
    You probably checked but is your desktop warped?

    I tried it on a few surfaces, it didn't change.
    I put some 3M pads (bump- ons) on the bottom of my HHKB on the four corners and it stops it from moving around.

    I'll give that a try, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaspar on Fri, 18 October 2013, 15:30:43
    Thank you very much for your answers Melvang & BlueBär.

    I have another question though.

    Why isn't the keyboard designed like this? (picture underneath)
    If numpad was on the other side then the left hand would have 2 things to do ("asdf" + numpad) and the right hand would have 2 ("jklö" + arrows n' stuff). Right now it seems improportionate with 1 and 3 tasks, if I haven't been using the keyboard incorrectly.

    (http://i.imgur.com/MHDwuU8.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Fri, 18 October 2013, 15:37:14
    Quote from: Kaspar on Fri, 18 October 2013, 15:30:43
    Thank you very much for your answers Melvang & BlueBär.

    I have another question though.

    Why isn't the keyboard designed like this? (picture underneath)
    If numpad was on the other side then the left hand would have 2 things to do ("asdf" + numpad) and the right hand would have 2 ("jklö" + arrows n' stuff). Right now it seems improportionate with 1 and 3 tasks, if I haven't been using the keyboard incorrectly.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MHDwuU8.jpg)

    These keyboards excists! Not mechanical ones though! :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Fri, 18 October 2013, 17:15:22
    Quote from: Signature on Fri, 18 October 2013, 15:37:14
    Quote from: Kaspar on Fri, 18 October 2013, 15:30:43
    Thank you very much for your answers Melvang & BlueBär.

    I have another question though.

    Why isn't the keyboard designed like this? (picture underneath)
    If numpad was on the other side then the left hand would have 2 things to do ("asdf" + numpad) and the right hand would have 2 ("jklö" + arrows n' stuff). Right now it seems improportionate with 1 and 3 tasks, if I haven't been using the keyboard incorrectly.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MHDwuU8.jpg)

    These keyboards excists! Not mechanical ones though! :rolleyes:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321227781548?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

    Saw this on eBay the other day..

    [edit] having looked at it again, I realise that it is totally left handed. My bad, it's late.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 18 October 2013, 18:30:45
    Quote from: Kaspar on Fri, 18 October 2013, 15:30:43
    Thank you very much for your answers Melvang & BlueBär.

    I have another question though.

    Why isn't the keyboard designed like this? (picture underneath)
    If numpad was on the other side then the left hand would have 2 things to do ("asdf" + numpad) and the right hand would have 2 ("jklö" + arrows n' stuff). Right now it seems improportionate with 1 and 3 tasks, if I haven't been using the keyboard incorrectly.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MHDwuU8.jpg)


    I think I have seen a few Korean customs with this layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:30:25
    This is a noob question, but I wanted to check anyway...

    Are all the cherry mx switch housings the same?  Is it only the stem and spring that changes between the different mx switch types/colors?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:32:37
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:30:25
    This is a noob question, but I wanted to check anyway...

    Are all the cherry mx switch housings the same?  Is it only the stem and spring that changes between the different mx switch types/colors?

    Yes, all except MX Lock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:41:12
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:32:37
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:30:25
    This is a noob question, but I wanted to check anyway...

    Are all the cherry mx switch housings the same?  Is it only the stem and spring that changes between the different mx switch types/colors?

    Yes, all except MX Lock.

    Thank you for the quick response.  So if I like the weight of a red switch, but want to make it tactile, I could replace the red stem with a clear one and it will be tactile.  Very cool.  I know this is not trivial (because all my boards are plate mounted) but good to know.  Now if only I could find clear switches/stems...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:55:41
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:41:12
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:32:37
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:30:25
    This is a noob question, but I wanted to check anyway...

    Are all the cherry mx switch housings the same?  Is it only the stem and spring that changes between the different mx switch types/colors?

    Yes, all except MX Lock.

    Thank you for the quick response.  So if I like the weight of a red switch, but want to make it tactile, I could replace the red stem with a clear one and it will be tactile.  Very cool.  I know this is not trivial (because all my boards are plate mounted) but good to know.  Now if only I could find clear switches/stems...

    Why does being plate mounted matter? Can't people just unsolder switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 23:09:35
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:55:41
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:41:12
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:32:37
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:30:25
    This is a noob question, but I wanted to check anyway...

    Are all the cherry mx switch housings the same?  Is it only the stem and spring that changes between the different mx switch types/colors?

    Yes, all except MX Lock.

    Thank you for the quick response.  So if I like the weight of a red switch, but want to make it tactile, I could replace the red stem with a clear one and it will be tactile.  Very cool.  I know this is not trivial (because all my boards are plate mounted) but good to know.  Now if only I could find clear switches/stems...

    Why does being plate mounted matter? Can't people just unsolder switches?

    My understanding is that if the switches are PCB mounted, you can just open the switch housing and replace the stems without an desoldering anything. 

    If the switches are plate mounted, then you have to desolder all of the switches and remove them from the plate before you can open them.

    Its not a huge barrier to doing it, it will just take about twice as long to do the mod is all.  Please correct me if I am wrong about any of this...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 October 2013, 01:24:54
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 23:09:35
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:55:41
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:41:12
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:32:37
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:30:25
    This is a noob question, but I wanted to check anyway...

    Are all the cherry mx switch housings the same?  Is it only the stem and spring that changes between the different mx switch types/colors?

    Yes, all except MX Lock.

    Thank you for the quick response.  So if I like the weight of a red switch, but want to make it tactile, I could replace the red stem with a clear one and it will be tactile.  Very cool.  I know this is not trivial (because all my boards are plate mounted) but good to know.  Now if only I could find clear switches/stems...

    Why does being plate mounted matter? Can't people just unsolder switches?

    My understanding is that if the switches are PCB mounted, you can just open the switch housing and replace the stems without an desoldering anything. 

    If the switches are plate mounted, then you have to desolder all of the switches and remove them from the plate before you can open them.

    Its not a huge barrier to doing it, it will just take about twice as long to do the mod is all.  Please correct me if I am wrong about any of this...

    Yes, because the switch is also held in place by the plate, and the plate prevents the switch top from being able to be removed.

    There is a custom plate that allows switch top removal without desoldering the switch, but that is a custom item.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 19 October 2013, 03:05:13
    Quote from: Kaspar on Fri, 18 October 2013, 15:30:43
    Thank you very much for your answers Melvang & BlueBär.

    I have another question though.

    Why isn't the keyboard designed like this? (picture underneath)
    If numpad was on the other side then the left hand would have 2 things to do ("asdf" + numpad) and the right hand would have 2 ("jklö" + arrows n' stuff). Right now it seems improportionate with 1 and 3 tasks, if I haven't been using the keyboard incorrectly.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MHDwuU8.jpg)


    I think a large reason why more keyboards are made this way has to do with the vast majority of people being right handed vs left handed.  Being right handed your right had generally has more dexterity then the left for the extra stuff over on the right side.  Plus if I was to build a keyboard with the numpad on the left I would also put the 2x keys on the opposite side so you would still be hitting the same keys with the same finger.  Although I would probably play with flipping the number keys as well.  Not sure how that would work out for me.  But I am not left handed.

    Although I need to retrain myself to shoot left handed since I am left eye dominant.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 October 2013, 03:33:17
    What is needed is a modular keyboard, with the alpha section, arrows and 6key, and numpad separate but such that they can be connected together in whatever configuration the user prefers.

    There is at least one keyboard that has a numpad that can be positioned on either side.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 19 October 2013, 04:59:18
    Quick questions here.

    Does anyone know what the actual radius is on the bottom (.715" square) of the DCS family keys is from SP?

    Also where to find dimensions and relations for costar only stabilizer holes.  My plate won't allow cherry wires.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: amasokin on Sat, 19 October 2013, 10:17:19
    Deleted my post, opened a thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 20 October 2013, 01:33:55
    Simple question:

    Is there a tool to check the rollover of your keyboard?

    I'd like to check the differences between USB and PS2 and the differences between directly plugging the board in via USB vs an USB hub.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 20 October 2013, 01:44:18
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Sun, 20 October 2013, 01:33:55
    Simple question:

    Is there a tool to check the rollover of your keyboard?

    I'd like to check the differences between USB and PS2 and the differences between directly plugging the board in via USB vs an USB hub.

    You could use Aqua Key Test (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34670) and count how many keys are registered when you press them simultaneously.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Sun, 20 October 2013, 14:51:11
    Is theer a vendor on GH that makes 60% stainless steel plates or where do you get them? :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Mon, 21 October 2013, 02:46:55
    Hi guys, are there major differences (for example when it comes to coding) between the Teensy 2.0 and 3.0?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 21 October 2013, 06:09:44
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Mon, 21 October 2013, 02:46:55
    Hi guys, are there major differences (for example when it comes to coding) between the Teensy 2.0 and 3.0?

    I don't believe so.  At this site (http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html) if you scroll down a bit to the software section there isn't any thing annotating and differences between the three boards.  But if someone could correct me if I am wrong that would be great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 October 2013, 06:38:27
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Mon, 21 October 2013, 02:46:55
    Hi guys, are there major differences (for example when it comes to coding) between the Teensy 2.0 and 3.0?

    There's a better processor, more memory, and more pins on the 3.0 as opposed to the 2.0. I'm not sure about the coding, but it looks to be the same based on the kickstarter page (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulstoffregen/teensy-30-32-bit-arm-cortex-m4-usable-in-arduino-a).

    Quote from: Signature on Sun, 20 October 2013, 14:51:11
    Is theer a vendor on GH that makes 60% stainless steel plates or where do you get them? :confused:

    The_Beast had a few GBs for them. Right now I don't think he's got any for sale. You could always try and find the CAD files for them and get them cut locally yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 21 October 2013, 06:40:04
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Mon, 21 October 2013, 02:46:55
    Hi guys, are there major differences (for example when it comes to coding) between the Teensy 2.0 and 3.0?

    The Teensy 3.0 uses a different processor which you might have to adjust the code for.

    Quote from: Signature on Sun, 20 October 2013, 14:51:11
    Is theer a vendor on GH that makes 60% stainless steel plates or where do you get them? :confused:

    Beast used to make some, but I don't think he still does.


    Sniped :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 21 October 2013, 07:30:04
    I believe the reason The_Beast isn't making plates right now is because of school.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 21 October 2013, 16:00:21
    Maybe not so simple, but does anyone happen to know which white and beige SP colors are IMSTO's white and beige thick PBT caps closest to?

    SP PBT colors:
    http://keycapsdirect.com/pbtcolors.php

    SP ABS colors:
    http://keycapsdirect.com/abscolors.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 21 October 2013, 21:06:15
    Well according to SP legends a specific to a key size so 1u legends are not available for 1.5u key.  So my questions is this.  Is there anywhere I can go to see what legends are available for 1.5u keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:24:20
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 21 October 2013, 06:40:04
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Mon, 21 October 2013, 02:46:55
    Hi guys, are there major differences (for example when it comes to coding) between the Teensy 2.0 and 3.0?

    The Teensy 3.0 uses a different processor which you might have to adjust the code for.

    Quote from: Signature on Sun, 20 October 2013, 14:51:11
    Is theer a vendor on GH that makes 60% stainless steel plates or where do you get them? :confused:

    Beast used to make some, but I don't think he still does.


    Sniped :-X

    I think GON makes them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:59:08
    Beast makes the SS ones, GON only deals in aluminum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 22 October 2013, 04:39:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 October 2013, 21:06:15
    Well according to SP legends a specific to a key size so 1u legends are not available for 1.5u key.  So my questions is this.  Is there anywhere I can go to see what legends are available for 1.5u keys?

    I asked Melissa for the legends they have so we can make better mockups, she told me, they have over 3000 legends. And no consolidated electronic copy that can be used as a reference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 06:57:37
    Where can I find fullsize (TK) Ducky-compatible replacement cases? I plan on modding my case, and if something goes wrong, I'd like to be able to replace it if necessary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 06:59:59
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 21 October 2013, 16:00:21
    Maybe not so simple, but does anyone happen to know which white and beige SP colors are IMSTO's white and beige thick PBT caps closest to?

    SP PBT colors:
    http://keycapsdirect.com/pbtcolors.php

    SP ABS colors:
    http://keycapsdirect.com/abscolors.php

    If you have IMSTO's keycaps in your possession, you might try using the color chip scans found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.msg958898#msg958898) to compare against. The scans are not perfect yet, but we're working it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 October 2013, 08:23:17
    Quote from: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 06:57:37
    Where can I find fullsize (TK) Ducky-compatible replacement cases? I plan on modding my case, and if something goes wrong, I'd like to be able to replace it if necessary.

    Buy another Ducky?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 22 October 2013, 08:45:41
    Question about HHKB function layer.

    So let's say I use a software remapping tool to use a custom layout.  Will the function layer be moved to the new key location, for example Page Down in Dvorak follows the period to the new spot in Dvorak?

    or will the function layer stay in the same location, but under a different key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 22 October 2013, 09:21:26
    Quote from: MOZ on Tue, 22 October 2013, 04:39:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 October 2013, 21:06:15
    Well according to SP legends a specific to a key size so 1u legends are not available for 1.5u key.  So my questions is this.  Is there anywhere I can go to see what legends are available for 1.5u keys?

    I asked Melissa for the legends they have so we can make better mockups, she told me, they have over 3000 legends. And no consolidated electronic copy that can be used as a reference.

    Now that is a bummer.  I need to find a good legend for 1.5u keys for Insert, Delete, Page Up, and Page Down.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 22 October 2013, 09:39:31
    I would still encourage you to try.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 22 October 2013, 09:41:40
    The legends for the Round 4 symbols was owned my 7bit at deskthority right?  How receptive is he to letting people use those legends?  More thinking just a couple caps and not an entire group buy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 22 October 2013, 09:47:45
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 08:45:41
    So let's say I use a software remapping tool to use a custom layout.  Will the function layer be moved to the new key location, for example Page Down in Dvorak follows the period to the new spot in Dvorak?

    The function layer should not move when you change the layout via software, since the function layer is saved on the HHKB itself.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 22 October 2013, 09:41:40
    The legends for the Round 4 symbols was owned my 7bit at deskthority right?  How receptive is he to letting people use those legends?  More thinking just a couple caps and not an entire group buy.

    I'm quite sure he would let you use them. Just ask him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 09:51:00
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 October 2013, 08:23:17
    Quote from: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 06:57:37
    Where can I find fullsize (TK) Ducky-compatible replacement cases? I plan on modding my case, and if something goes wrong, I'd like to be able to replace it if necessary.

    Buy another Ducky?

    LOL, that's a possibility. Does no one make a generic fullsize case? Could I use a CoolerMaster replacement case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 22 October 2013, 09:52:35
    Quote from: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 09:51:00
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 October 2013, 08:23:17
    Quote from: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 06:57:37
    Where can I find fullsize (TK) Ducky-compatible replacement cases? I plan on modding my case, and if something goes wrong, I'd like to be able to replace it if necessary.

    Buy another Ducky?

    LOL, that's a possibility. Does no one make a generic fullsize case? Could I use a CoolerMaster replacement case?

    I don't think anyone does make a generic case for TKL let alone full size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 October 2013, 11:43:40
    Quote from: Krogenar on Tue, 22 October 2013, 09:51:00
    LOL, that's a possibility. Does no one make a generic fullsize case? Could I use a CoolerMaster replacement case?

    Does CoolerMaster offer just a replacement case for any keyboard? As far as I know, it's only the QFR tops they're selling. I've also never seen a generic full size case. The full size stuff hasn't been getting much love.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 22 October 2013, 11:45:07
    CM only sells TKL tops. No TKL bottoms, and NOTHING to do with fullsize cases.

    I cannot cite my source, but someone asked them before and they made it pretty clear they'll never release a full TKL case for sale seperately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 October 2013, 11:46:56
    I asked Carter that question, and yeah, that was the response I got.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:49:53
    Another Teensy question: Do you know if the "usual open source code" such as GH60 or whatever you usually use as a base code, is compatible with the 3.0 Teensy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tonyduck on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:13:23
    I'm currently deciding between Reds and Blacks for my first keyboard. However, one issue that concerns me about Reds is accidentally pressing a key while resting your fingers on the keyboard.
    I've been looking around the last couple days and have seen people comment on both ways, so I'm still unsure as to the possibilities of it. I'm leaning towards it not being a problem because I feel it would be brought up more, but I wanted to ask anyone from here with Red switches if they have/haven't experienced this.
    I'm currently using a laptop and find myself putting most of my hand weight on the inner part of my wrist (I have zero knowledge of anatomy, sorry), if that amounts to anything.

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: snoopy on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:17:26
    I personally would start with blacks. But depends what you plan on doing with the board.

    You don't have the chance to try the switches somewhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:21:46
    Quote from: Masterchief79 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:49:53
    Another Teensy question: Do you know if the "usual open source code" such as GH60 or whatever you usually use as a base code, is compatible with the 3.0 Teensy?

    The TMK or Hasu's code is written in C, which is compatible with the Teensy 3.0. That's the most common open source code I've seen. Hasu's code can be found in Making Stuff Together (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0). And just in case it wasn't clear before, the differences between the 3.0 and 2.0 can be found on that kickstarter page.

    Edit: according to Soarer's post here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.msg1053377#msg1053377), the Teensy 3.0 won't work with Soarer's or Hasu's code. It has a different CPU architecture and different voltage which won't interface with keyboards.

    Quote from: Tonyduck on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:13:23
    One issue that concerns me about Reds is accidentally pressing a key while resting your fingers on the keyboard.

    This has brought up as an issue because of how light the actuation force is on an MX Red switch. It's not a problem with a switch per se, just how you rest your hands. I don't like Reds because I'd have so many errors like that due to the force. Like snoopy said, it's best if you can try switches out first.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tonyduck on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:26:44
    Quote from: snoopy on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:17:26
    I personally would start with blacks. But depends what you plan on doing with the board.

    You don't have the chance to try the switches somewhere?

    I have the sampler kit from WASD Keyboards as it's the best I can get. It doesn't come with any board mounting of sorts, so I tried to "simulate" a board, but I find my hand's weight to be different when trying the switches there rather than on my laptop.
    I prefer the feeling of both linear switches and, based on the sampler kit, I'm confident I'd be completely satisfied with either switch, but my current mindset is slightly leaning towards the lighter Reds.

    As for usage, I'm a college student studying graphic design & a gamer, so its pretty balanced between hotkey-ing (if I can use that) and "normal" typing.



    [e] Do you guys suggest Blacks for a "safer" buy?" I'm confident I won't have any issues in regards to the finger strain I've read about coming from scissor switches (assuming the actuation forces I've read are accurate), as well as having friends that have tried Blacks that use their keyboards for the same purposes as I do and haven't experienced any strain.
    The lighter feel of the Reds feels /slightly/ better from my point of view, but if there's any issues in regards to accidental presses (which seems to be the case from what you guys are saying?), I'd rather use the switch that gives me more function over feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:57:26
    Quote from: Tonyduck on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:26:44
    I'm confident I'd be completely satisfied with either switch, but my current mindset is slightly leaning towards the lighter Reds.

    Do you guys suggest Blacks for a "safer" buy?

    The lighter feel of the Reds feels /slightly/ better from my point of view

    If you think Reds feel better, get Reds. It's a matter of personal opinion. If you've tried them and you don't think there's an issue, then get it. This is a personal choice for every GHer. Not a simple question at all; very subjective.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Masterchief79 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 16:09:43
    @BadAss: Thanks a alot, I'm not a genius when i comes to coding. It's my first project (trying to turn an old electrical typewriter with M9 switches into a 60% PC keyboard) and I don't want to make it harder, will all just take longer etc. I hope I will still be able to type some of my thesis on it which is due next week^^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 22 October 2013, 18:05:58
    Quote from: Tonyduck on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:26:44
    Quote from: snoopy on Tue, 22 October 2013, 15:17:26
    I personally would start with blacks. But depends what you plan on doing with the board.

    You don't have the chance to try the switches somewhere?

    I have the sampler kit from WASD Keyboards as it's the best I can get. It doesn't come with any board mounting of sorts, so I tried to "simulate" a board, but I find my hand's weight to be different when trying the switches there rather than on my laptop.
    I prefer the feeling of both linear switches and, based on the sampler kit, I'm confident I'd be completely satisfied with either switch, but my current mindset is slightly leaning towards the lighter Reds.

    As for usage, I'm a college student studying graphic design & a gamer, so its pretty balanced between hotkey-ing (if I can use that) and "normal" typing.



    [e] Do you guys suggest Blacks for a "safer" buy?" I'm confident I won't have any issues in regards to the finger strain I've read about coming from scissor switches (assuming the actuation forces I've read are accurate), as well as having friends that have tried Blacks that use their keyboards for the same purposes as I do and haven't experienced any strain.
    The lighter feel of the Reds feels /slightly/ better from my point of view, but if there's any issues in regards to accidental presses (which seems to be the case from what you guys are saying?), I'd rather use the switch that gives me more function over feel.

    I would just go with the reds.  I have a costar made Das keyboard with browns and they are the same spring.  I also have ergo modded clears and reds in my orbweaver.  I actually have more accidental keystrokes on the browns than I do with reds due to what I am using them for.  The reds are "WASD" for movement in WoW as I don't use my Das for gaming.  Just typing in the chat frame while I am gaming.  I also suggest reds as you are coming from a laptop which you said to be scissor switches.  Those to me are always fairly light.  The only difference between the blacks and the reds is the color of the plastic and the spring.  Worst case, you end up not liking the weight of them.  So the cheapest way to fix it if you still want linear switches is to just buy a set of springs and swap them out.  Springs are cheap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tonyduck on Tue, 22 October 2013, 19:54:16
    Awesome, thanks for all the input fellas. Much appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Tue, 22 October 2013, 21:28:23
    Anyone know what material cherry mx stems are made of?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 October 2013, 21:36:19
    Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 22 October 2013, 21:28:23
    Anyone know what material cherry mx stems are made of?

    *Guess incoming*

    According to the Cherry info sheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm), they're made of a thermoplastic. ABS, PBT, and POM fit this. But PBT can be brittle and repeated hits doesn't seem to lend itself to PBT. I would guess POM (Suggested by CommunistWitchDr) or ABS.

    Edit: Hashbaz also guessed POM (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49765.msg1082293#msg1082293)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Tue, 22 October 2013, 21:44:41

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 October 2013, 21:36:19
    Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 22 October 2013, 21:28:23
    Anyone know what material cherry mx stems are made of?

    *Guess incoming*

    According to the Cherry info sheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm), they're made of a thermoplastic. ABS, PBT, and POM fit this. But PBT can be brittle and repeated hits doesn't seem to lend itself to PBT. I would guess POM (Suggested by CommunistWitchDr) or ABS.

    I suppose I should just ask kawa, if it involves thermoplastic, he should know :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 22 October 2013, 21:47:13
    I think all of it is POM, stem, the top and bottom too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raKeto on Wed, 23 October 2013, 00:41:08
    How can i get my Keyboard repeating multiple Keys? Like in this Video

    feature=youtu.be


    Edit:

    Figured it out now. With the program keyboardking you can fix windows messed up repeatrate. eyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeye :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 23 October 2013, 01:08:23
    Quote from: raKeto on Wed, 23 October 2013, 00:41:08
    How can i get my Keyboard repeating multiple Keys? Like in this Video

    feature=youtu.be

    Sounds like an AHK script to me.  Though I could be wrong. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:25:09
    Can anyone recommend me a white LED strip that can connect to USB? Nothing too fancy or huge, just for above my keyboard tray so I can see it at night.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:26:29
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:25:09
    Can anyone recommend me a white LED strip that can connect to USB? Nothing too fancy or huge, just for above my keyboard tray so I can see it at night.

    I think you can buy little LED strips like that at Ikea. Pretty sure I saw that last time I was there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:30:21
    Theres also those small USB desk lamps which you can get on ebay for like 5$.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:36:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:26:29
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:25:09
    Can anyone recommend me a white LED strip that can connect to USB? Nothing too fancy or huge, just for above my keyboard tray so I can see it at night.

    I think you can buy little LED strips like that at Ikea. Pretty sure I saw that last time I was there.

    I will take a look thank you.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:30:21
    Theres also those small USB desk lamps which you can get on ebay for like 5$.

    Yeah I want something a little more lowkey. I was going to tape it to the underside of my table so it shines above my keyboard. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:53:19
    Was thinking about something like this (http://www.ebay.de/itm/10-LED-USB-Portable-Lamp-Light-maximum-illumination-for-Laptop-Notebook-PC-TR-/181188144597?pt=US_USB_Lights_Gadgets&hash=item2a2fa7add5) with an extension cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 23 October 2013, 15:24:20
    you can also check www.frozencpu.com.  I know they carry a bunch of stuff for LED strips
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 23 October 2013, 15:39:26
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:25:09
    Can anyone recommend me a white LED strip that can connect to USB? Nothing too fancy or huge, just for above my keyboard tray so I can see it at night.

    Antec Halo Bias Lighting should work for you and is fairly inexpensive. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 23 October 2013, 20:18:51
    Why can't people make PCB's for plate mounted boards have extra holes for PCB mount switches to go into? It would make a ton of people's lives easier.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 23 October 2013, 20:23:13
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 23 October 2013, 20:18:51
    Why can't people make PCB's for plate mounted boards have extra holes for PCB mount switches to go into? It would make a ton of people's lives easier.



    Which people, exactly? We included them in the GH60, the SmallFry keyboard, the GHpad, etc. You mean people as in Filco, Ducky, CM? They aren't in the business of spending more money than absolutely necessary when making a new product. More holes in the PCB = more cost.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 23 October 2013, 20:26:01
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 23 October 2013, 20:23:13
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 23 October 2013, 20:18:51
    Why can't people make PCB's for plate mounted boards have extra holes for PCB mount switches to go into? It would make a ton of people's lives easier.



    Which people, exactly? We included them in the GH60, the SmallFry keyboard, the GHpad, etc. You mean people as in Filco, Ducky, CM? They aren't in the business of spending more money than absolutely necessary when making a new product. More holes in the PCB = more cost.

    Ah I see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 21:28:58
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 23 October 2013, 15:39:26
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:25:09
    Can anyone recommend me a white LED strip that can connect to USB? Nothing too fancy or huge, just for above my keyboard tray so I can see it at night.

    Antec Halo Bias Lighting should work for you and is fairly inexpensive. 

    I ordered two of these. One for my monitor and one for my keyboard. Thanks everyone for the suggestions!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: naokira on Thu, 24 October 2013, 00:23:44
    Is titanium plates possible?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 24 October 2013, 00:35:18
    Quote from: naokira on Thu, 24 October 2013, 00:23:44
    Is titanium plates possible?

    It would be but for this application it will act like a large flat spring.  Not to mention that it is very difficult to machine and takes a fairly powerful laser to cut that way.  Also waterjet does work on Ti but you can't get the radius in the corners down small enough.  If you did get one cut with water jet it would be almost impossible to file the corners down.  But other than that I don't see why not.  And this is on top of the extra cost for Ti.

    I just checked mcmastercarr.com and a 6x24 sheet of 304 stainless (not sure what grade plates here are cut from) is 32.99 + shipping.  For Ti (grade 2) for a 12x12 it is 78.02 and the 12x24 is 135.69.  Keep in mind these prices is for raw material.  Not to mention machine time and labor cost of actually getting one cut.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 24 October 2013, 00:41:24
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 21:28:58
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 23 October 2013, 15:39:26
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:25:09
    Can anyone recommend me a white LED strip that can connect to USB? Nothing too fancy or huge, just for above my keyboard tray so I can see it at night.

    Antec Halo Bias Lighting should work for you and is fairly inexpensive. 

    I ordered two of these. One for my monitor and one for my keyboard. Thanks everyone for the suggestions!

    Perfect.  I was going to suggest the same thing.  I have one on the back of my monitor to help with eye fatigue when the room is dark. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Thu, 24 October 2013, 05:09:51
    Is the rubber coating on QFR an issue? Meaning does it wear of and you need to be extra careful while using/transporting it?

    If yes, how hard is it to remove it and is it somewhat complicated process and is it really worth it?

    And last one..Has anybody modded in any way their Keycool? Because I've seen many tricked out QFRs and not much of Keycools. Does it mean that QFR is more suited for mods than the other?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 24 October 2013, 05:23:53
    Quote from: bMind on Thu, 24 October 2013, 05:09:51
    Is the rubber coating on QFR an issue? Meaning does it wear of and you need to be extra careful while using/transporting it?

    If yes, how hard is it to remove it and is it somewhat complicated process and is it really worth it?

    And last one..Has anybody modded in any way their Keycool? Because I've seen many tricked out QFRs and not much of Keycools. Does it mean that QFR is more suited for mods than the other?

    The biggest reason you will see more tricked out QFR's than Keycools is price and availability.  QFR's are cheaper and available more places.

    Edit:  Do Ducky full sized boards from mechanicalkeyboards.com ship with a key puller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 24 October 2013, 11:43:55
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 24 October 2013, 05:23:53
    Do Ducky full sized boards from mechanicalkeyboards.com ship with a key puller?

    I think so? When I went to MK.com, they had TONS of Ducky Keypullers so I assume that they put them in their Ducky board boxes when they ship them out. But I've never bought a Ducky so I don't know. Just assuming.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 24 October 2013, 16:40:03
    Quote from: bMind on Thu, 24 October 2013, 05:09:51
    Is the rubber coating on QFR an issue? Meaning does it wear of and you need to be extra careful while using/transporting it?

    If yes, how hard is it to remove it and is it somewhat complicated process and is it really worth it?

    And last one..Has anybody modded in any way their Keycool? Because I've seen many tricked out QFRs and not much of Keycools. Does it mean that QFR is more suited for mods than the other?

    Apparently it is quote resilient, although I read somewhere (here, might have been from Carter) that the coating was changed semi-recently to make it even more resilient.

    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 24 October 2013, 05:23:53
    Quote from: bMind on Thu, 24 October 2013, 05:09:51
    Is the rubber coating on QFR an issue? Meaning does it wear of and you need to be extra careful while using/transporting it?

    If yes, how hard is it to remove it and is it somewhat complicated process and is it really worth it?

    And last one..Has anybody modded in any way their Keycool? Because I've seen many tricked out QFRs and not much of Keycools. Does it mean that QFR is more suited for mods than the other?

    The biggest reason you will see more tricked out QFR's than Keycools is price and availability.  QFR's are cheaper and available more places.

    Edit:  Do Ducky full sized boards from mechanicalkeyboards.com ship with a key puller?

    Both Ducky Shines I have came with extra WASD keycaps and a plastic keycap puller in a little plastic baggie.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 24 October 2013, 16:45:25
    Most of the recent Ducky's have nice wire type keycap pullers included with them. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 24 October 2013, 17:09:39
    Thanks guys.  I am getting my aunt and uncle both much boards for Christmas and already have a couple extra caps and a couple more in the pipeline for them and just didn't want to have to pay for shipping again just for a puller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Thu, 24 October 2013, 18:04:08
    Thank you rowdy :)

    And since you have both..got a question. You like QFR or Keycool more?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Thu, 24 October 2013, 18:02:56
    Thank you rowdy :)

    And since you have both..got a question. You like QFR or Keycool more?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Thu, 24 October 2013, 18:01:56
    Thank you rowdy :)

    And since you have both..got a question. You like QFR or Keycool more?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 24 October 2013, 18:07:38
    I would say that my QFR has the edge, but only because it has MX blacks which I prefer over the reds.  The QFR also feels like a slightly heavier and more solid board, but that could be something simple like a thicker plate.

    Quality-wise, they are about equal (KeyCool has stock PBT keycaps, QFR has BumbleBee atm).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Thu, 24 October 2013, 18:21:15
    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 24 October 2013, 18:07:38
    I would say that my QFR has the edge, but only because it has MX blacks which I prefer over the reds.  The QFR also feels like a slightly heavier and more solid board, but that could be something simple like a thicker plate.

    Quality-wise, they are about equal (KeyCool has stock PBT keycaps, QFR has BumbleBee atm).

    Thanks again :thumb:

    Keycaps won't be a deciding factor because I will change them either way :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:27:57
    So I've heard about using binder clips as a switch opener instead of the_beast's one.

    How would I do that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:38:59
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:27:57
    So I've heard about using binder clips as a switch opener instead of the_beast's one.

    How would I do that?

    http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/tipandtech/3520312
    http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/i-did-a-guide-of-how-to-open-cherry-switches-t2458.html#p43053

    I just bookmarked these the other day :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:40:43
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:27:57
    So I've heard about using binder clips as a switch opener instead of the_beast's one.

    How would I do that?

    Quote from: codyeatworld on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:38:59
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:27:57
    So I've heard about using binder clips as a switch opener instead of the_beast's one.

    How would I do that?

    http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/tipandtech/3520312
    http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/i-did-a-guide-of-how-to-open-cherry-switches-t2458.html#p43053

    I just bookmarked these the other day :)


    This is in the OP as well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:47:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:40:43
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:27:57
    So I've heard about using binder clips as a switch opener instead of the_beast's one.

    How would I do that?

    Quote from: codyeatworld on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:38:59
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:27:57
    So I've heard about using binder clips as a switch opener instead of the_beast's one.

    How would I do that?

    http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/tipandtech/3520312
    http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/i-did-a-guide-of-how-to-open-cherry-switches-t2458.html#p43053

    I just bookmarked these the other day :)


    This is in the OP as well

    Agh, sorry. Last time I checked OP, I didn't need to open switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tokiloki on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:56:42
    Hey lovely geekhack community,

    I would like to purchase this keyboard : http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html

    It is really cheap and they have free shipping to Germany which really surprises me. But matter of fact I've never heard of banggood .

    My main question and concern would be : Can you trust the site and is it a real keycool 87 keyboard , like not being fake etc.

    Thank you in advance for your answers !
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:59:02
    Quote from: Tokiloki on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:56:42
    Hey lovely geekhack community,

    I would like to purchase this keyboard : http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html

    It is really cheap and they have free shipping to Germany which really surprises me. But matter of fact I've never heard of banggood .

    My main question and concern would be : Can you trust the site and is it a real keycool 87 keyboard , like not being fake etc.

    Thank you in advance for your answers !

    It seems banggood is reputable around here, but I've never bought anything from then so it's purely based on other's experiences.

    I remember reading that someone had to wait a very long time for caps, if I'm not mistaken.

    Overall I'd say they're fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 25 October 2013, 14:00:41
    Quote from: Tokiloki on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:56:42
    Hey lovely geekhack community,

    I would like to purchase this keyboard : http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html (http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html)

    It is really cheap and they have free shipping to Germany which really surprises me. But matter of fact I've never heard of banggood .

    My main question and concern would be : Can you trust the site and is it a real keycool 87 keyboard , like not being fake etc.

    Thank you in advance for your answers !

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50050.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50050.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48643.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48643.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48870.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48870.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46838.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46838.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46734.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46734.0)

    as of right now they are NOT endorsed by geekhack
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 25 October 2013, 15:03:19
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:59:02
    Quote from: Tokiloki on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:56:42
    Hey lovely geekhack community,

    I would like to purchase this keyboard : http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html

    It is really cheap and they have free shipping to Germany which really surprises me. But matter of fact I've never heard of banggood .

    My main question and concern would be : Can you trust the site and is it a real keycool 87 keyboard , like not being fake etc.

    Thank you in advance for your answers !

    It seems banggood is reputable around here, but I've never bought anything from then so it's purely based on other's experiences.

    I remember reading that someone had to wait a very long time for caps, if I'm not mistaken.

    Overall I'd say they're fine.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 25 October 2013, 14:00:41
    Quote from: Tokiloki on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:56:42
    Hey lovely geekhack community,

    I would like to purchase this keyboard : http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html (http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html)

    It is really cheap and they have free shipping to Germany which really surprises me. But matter of fact I've never heard of banggood .

    My main question and concern would be : Can you trust the site and is it a real keycool 87 keyboard , like not being fake etc.

    Thank you in advance for your answers !

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50050.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50050.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48643.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48643.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48870.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48870.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46838.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46838.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46734.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46734.0)

    as of right now they are NOT endorsed by geekhack

    I stand corrected :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tokiloki on Fri, 25 October 2013, 15:30:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 25 October 2013, 14:00:41
    Quote from: Tokiloki on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:56:42
    Hey lovely geekhack community,

    I would like to purchase this keyboard : http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html (http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html)

    It is really cheap and they have free shipping to Germany which really surprises me. But matter of fact I've never heard of banggood .

    My main question and concern would be : Can you trust the site and is it a real keycool 87 keyboard , like not being fake etc.

    Thank you in advance for your answers !

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50050.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50050.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48643.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48643.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48870.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48870.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46838.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46838.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46734.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46734.0)

    as of right now they are NOT endorsed by geekhack

    Okay , thank you so you recommend not to buy from banggood.com ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 25 October 2013, 15:34:21
    Quote from: Tokiloki on Fri, 25 October 2013, 15:30:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 25 October 2013, 14:00:41
    Quote from: Tokiloki on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:56:42
    Hey lovely geekhack community,

    I would like to purchase this keyboard : http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html (http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-Rainbow-Keycaps-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-89178.html)

    It is really cheap and they have free shipping to Germany which really surprises me. But matter of fact I've never heard of banggood .

    My main question and concern would be : Can you trust the site and is it a real keycool 87 keyboard , like not being fake etc.

    Thank you in advance for your answers !

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50050.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50050.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48643.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48643.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48870.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48870.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46838.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46838.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46734.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46734.0)

    as of right now they are NOT endorsed by geekhack

    Okay , thank you so you recommend not to buy from banggood.com ?

    I have no opinion on the matter, just wanted to share information, you'll have to make your own decision!

    I will say I have considered buying from them but have not followed through.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 25 October 2013, 23:02:24
    Banggood.com really isn't a bad site. The stuff they sale is exactly what they say it is.

    The only problem I have had from them is shipping time, but the shipping is free and international so that's kind of expected.

    I would only buy the Keycool and KBC branded stuff from their site though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 26 October 2013, 04:01:31
    On Banggood.com and anything else you buy on this site, it's buyer beware. It's on you and your personal judgement in the end to figure out if you feel comfortable buying from whomever. I'm sure you can find mkawa's statement on Banggood in one of the posts ray linked.

    Personally? I won't buy from Banggood or anything I think is associated with TaoBao. I just don't trust it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 26 October 2013, 04:04:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 26 October 2013, 04:01:31
    On Banggood.com and anything else you buy on this site, it's buyer beware. It's on you and your personal judgement in the end to figure out if you feel comfortable buying from whomever. I'm sure you can find mkawa's statement on Banggood in one of the posts ray linked.

    Personally? I won't buy from Banggood or anything I think is associated with TaoBao. I just don't trust it.

    I trust Taobao proxies. There's a lot of good stuff on Taobao.  Banggood I don't trust very far until they prove themselves to be reputable.  So far they haven't, but also haven't proven themselves to be terrible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jyh on Sat, 26 October 2013, 05:14:41
    I know people have posted threads on this topic before, but I haven't really seen a real confirmation. Is the Noppoo Choc Mini from Amazon a fake or not? I got mine about two weeks ago, it's the same one that has been posted before. All white text, questionable LED placement, "SorLock", etc. Plus, there are some imperfections, such as my 2/@ key, where you can feel physically feel the 2 on the keycap, unlike any other key. Also the 2 for the numpad, which is on the K key is done sloppily, kind of like someone repainted over the original just redrew another 2 by hand. On top of that, there is no detachable cable, like I've seen in the 2013 version, which seems like more of a backwards step. The Noppoo logo on the spacebar is normal too. I really prefer the older version with the detachable cable and the greyish lettering. Not sure if this is normal, but some keys sound slightly different than others. There are more examples, but the most obvious is my Q key in comparison to something like my L key. I can record it with Vocaroo if anybody thinks that this isn't normal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ouimeansyes on Sat, 26 October 2013, 15:59:10
    Hi all,

    Does anyone know which keyboards the 'Double-Shot' MX keycaps sold by elitekeyboards fit? They mention they have a shorter profile than the asian brands and mention Leopald in particular.

    In my mind, if the asian brands are out then the only option is Cherry if you want the profiles to match that is.

    Any help is appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 26 October 2013, 16:11:37
    Quote from: ouimeansyes on Sat, 26 October 2013, 15:59:10
    Hi all,

    Does anyone know which keyboards the 'Double-Shot' MX keycaps sold by elitekeyboards fit? They mention they have a shorter profile than the asian brands and mention Leopald in particular.

    In my mind, if the asian brands are out then the only option is Cherry if you want the profiles to match that is.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Those are Cherry profile keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 26 October 2013, 16:23:40
    Quote from: ouimeansyes on Sat, 26 October 2013, 15:59:10
    Does anyone know which keyboards the 'Double-Shot' MX keycaps sold by elitekeyboards fit? They mention they have a shorter profile than the asian brands and mention Leopald in particular.

    Any keyboard that is ANSI layout with 1.25x modifiers and 6.25x spacebar. Like ray said they'll be Cherry profile so they'll be lower than OEM caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ouimeansyes on Sat, 26 October 2013, 16:28:44
    Edit. Answered below.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 26 October 2013, 16:30:38
    OEM height keycaps are pretty tall, so any cherry profile keys will fit on the keyboard, but will only "match" other cherry keycaps. This is only really noticeable if you are mixing different profiles

    But they will fit, yes. I have cherry keycaps on my WASD V1 I'm using right now.

    The double shot WASD sets, modifiers, and arrowkeys that elitekeybaords sells are made by GMK (and should be very high quality) but will look and feel a little lower than OEM height. To match better, you may consider making all your alphanumeric keycaps cherry profile, with a cheap cherry G80 or G81 keyboard on eBay. Having the modifiers be a little higher is not too distracting in my experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 26 October 2013, 22:00:28
    Here is a comparison of Cherry and OEM on a board.  The colourful modifiers are OEM and the rest of the board is Cherry.

    Notice how the green key is almost the same height as the caps lock key?  I have had these keys on for a few days now just to see how they feel.  The height difference is very noticeable. 

    [attach=1][attach=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ouimeansyes on Sun, 27 October 2013, 04:50:51
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 26 October 2013, 22:00:28


    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 26 October 2013, 16:30:38


    Thanks for the input. I guess I would have to make sure all the keycaps were Cherry, it seems the height difference is certainly noticeable. I appreciated all your help and especially for the images.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 27 October 2013, 06:31:48
    Has anyone tried installing some form of dampening material between the plate and pcb to reduce the noise that resonates from the plate?

    I was thinking of sticking something like Dynamat (http://www.dynamat.com/) or rubber tape (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/ElectricalUtility/Home/Products/Catalog/~/Scotch-Linerless-Rubber-Splicing-Tape-130C-1-1-2x30FT-1-1-2-in-x-30-ft-38-mm-x-9-1-m-12-per-case?N=4294953732+5552071&&Nr=AND%28hrcy_id%3AGS1CJV13DWgs_TWNWJZ2WG0_N2RL3FHWVK_GPD0K8BC31gv%29&rt=d) to the underside of the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:00:01
    Where can I get some springs? Preferably 60g+.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:08:51
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:00:01
    Where can I get some springs? Preferably 60g+.

    Originative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:09:49
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:08:51
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:00:01
    Where can I get some springs? Preferably 60g+.

    Originative.

    Seems to be down.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:17:08
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:09:49
    Seems to be down.

    You can try contacting sherryton (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=6548) directly via PM.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:24:38
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:00:01
    Where can I get some springs? Preferably 60g+.

    Will pm you when I get to a PC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:53:34
    Spamray, I know youre just trying to help but please try not to conduct business here in the future. A PM would be better than a post like that. That rule is there so people don't try and bypass the 60 post classifieds rule in this thread. And I don't want there to be too many precedents of it happening. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 October 2013, 11:35:20
    Captn I didn't say anything about selling or buying perhaps I just don't want to post peoples contact info but would rather pm it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 27 October 2013, 12:49:08
    No worries! Just trying to keep anything business like locked down in this thread. I know you're not actively trying to mess anything up ^__^. Just a posted a statement for anyone reading back.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 27 October 2013, 20:55:14
    Probably a stupid question, but whatever...  I see a bunch of 'replacement keycaps' GBs happening.  What is stopping you from just buying a whole set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 October 2013, 21:02:13
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 27 October 2013, 20:55:14
    Probably a stupid question, but whatever...  I see a bunch of 'replacement keycaps' GBs happening.  What is stopping you from just buying a whole set?

    Most group buys are for whole sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 27 October 2013, 21:47:29
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 27 October 2013, 20:55:14
    Probably a stupid question, but whatever...  I see a bunch of 'replacement keycaps' GBs happening.  What is stopping you from just buying a whole set?

    Links?

    The only two I see in the first few pages are R3 and R4 replacements, which I understand to be replacement for faulty or missing sets from the original R3 and R4 GBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:12:49
    Two short questions:
    Can I simply cut one of those huge cloth mousepads to the size I want or will it then start to come apart on the edges I cut? More mouse tha nkeyboard related I guess.
    Is there a way to reduce this ping my spacebar does (http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Y2sXWBqpsk , hard to hear, I hope you get what I mean)? Is this the infamous Filco ping (even though it's a Pure)?
    PCB mounted MX Grey with lubed Cherry stabs, thin ABS spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:15:52
    I recently received a Phantom PCB from MK. The silkscreen was scratched off a bit and exposed some coppery color underneath. It's not a big scratch, and it's not in any area that I see would cause any sort of problem that I can think of. Is this an issue? Should I get it exchanged?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:20:14
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:15:52
    I recently received a Phantom PCB from MK. The silkscreen was scratched off a bit and exposed some coppery color underneath. It's not a big scratch, and it's not in any area that I see would cause any sort of problem that I can think of. Is this an issue? Should I get it exchanged?
    On what area of the PCB is it scratched off? Could you post a photo?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:20:42
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:15:52
    I recently received a Phantom PCB from MK. The silkscreen was scratched off a bit and exposed some coppery color underneath. It's not a big scratch, and it's not in any area that I see would cause any sort of problem that I can think of. Is this an issue? Should I get it exchanged?

    I proxied some for Moz and it took 3 tries to get one that wasn't scratched up. One even had what looked to be white out/paint where they tried to cover up scratches.

    They are still on there way to Moz so I don't know if the damaged ones work ok or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:25:05
    I could post a photo, but it'd have to be later tonight, as I'm at work.

    But it's right near the Escape key, where there is a phantom Phantom logo (hur?).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:28:32
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:25:05
    I could post a photo, but it'd have to be later tonight, as I'm at work.

    But it's right near the Escape key, where there is a phantom Phantom logo (hur?).

    Also here was a response about the phantoms with scratches from mechanicalkeyboards

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47907.msg1039115#msg1039115
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:30:26
    Ah, okay. Yeah, like I said, it's in an area that shouldn't cause any problems. It'll be under a plate, and nothing is close to touching it. I just wanted to be sure before I hang on to it and then when I get around to eventually doing something with it, having it not work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:31:54
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:15:52
    I recently received a Phantom PCB from MK. The silkscreen was scratched off a bit and exposed some coppery color underneath. It's not a big scratch, and it's not in any area that I see would cause any sort of problem that I can think of. Is this an issue? Should I get it exchanged?

    as long as the copper is fine it should still work. Therea re a few things to take note of, however.

    Solder will stick to the affected area. If its not near solder joints, you shouldn't have to worry. Just dont bridge to traces by mistake or something.
    The affected area with visible copper is conductive. Put some nonconductive material over it if you are using a metal case. electrical tape should work fine. cellophane tape may work as well.

    If you want to be absolutely certain, take a multimeter and measure the affected area to make sure there's conductivity where there should be. if so: you are good to go with some tape. If not, do a trace repair or exchange for a different one.

    I should contact MK about the returned ones: I think I'd be okay with the defects, and I need another phantom PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:21:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:12:49
    1) Can I simply cut one of those huge cloth mousepads to the size I want or will it then start to come apart on the edges I cut?

    2) Is there a way to reduce this ping my spacebar does (http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Y2sXWBqpsk , hard to hear, I hope you get what I mean)? Is this the infamous Filco ping (even though it's a Pure)?
    PCB mounted MX Grey with lubed Cherry stabs, thin ABS spacebar.

    1) Not sure but it's not really a keyboard related question :(. I think you could but I'm guessing you might have issues with unraveling

    2)  You can try using a different spacebar material if you've already lubed the stabilizers. The material of the cap can change how the switches sound. Didn't really hear a ping though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:31:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:21:31
    2)  You can try using a different spacebar material if you've already lubed the stabilizers. The material of the cap can change how the switches sound. Didn't really hear a ping though.

    The ping occurs when the spacebar is "jumping" back up, I don't really know what causes it, it is louder than in the recording. I tried to amplify it in Audacity: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0L7lOYU1zCV
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:35:49
    Maybe it's coming from the spring being so strong that when it's on it's return, it's hitting too hard and makes that sound.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:36:38
    Stop listening for the ping and you won't hear it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AKmalamute on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:38:19
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:36:38
    Stop listening for the ping and you won't hear it.
    That only works for some people. Everybody's got different thresholds for these kinds of things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:38:34
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:36:38
    Stop listening for the ping and you won't hear it.

    I wouldn't say that's necessarily true of the spacebar. For some reason, it seems the spacebar is the key you hear the most. Likely because it's the key hit most often.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:41:04
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:31:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:21:31
    2)  You can try using a different spacebar material if you've already lubed the stabilizers. The material of the cap can change how the switches sound. Didn't really hear a ping though.

    The ping occurs when the spacebar is "jumping" back up, I don't really know what causes it, it is louder than in the recording. I tried to amplify it in Audacity: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0L7lOYU1zCV

    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:35:49
    Maybe it's coming from the spring being so strong that when it's on it's return, it's hitting too hard and makes that sound.

    Yeah I think it's what moose was saying with the heavy spring's return. You have a light spacebar (Thin ABS) and a heavy spring. Maybe swap in a PBT spacebar? Or swap the spring out for something lighter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:15:15
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:36:38
    Stop listening for the ping and you won't hear it.

    I use thick PBTs for my Alphas on 65g vintage blacks, they sound lovely. The spacebar sound really sticks out.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:41:04
    Yeah I think it's what moose was saying with the heavy spring's return. You have a light spacebar (Thin ABS) and a heavy spring. Maybe swap in a PBT spacebar? Or swap the spring out for something lighter?

    I only have the one that's currently on the board and another thin ABS one. The switch also pings with the spacebar removed, so yes, it's the spring that's too heavy for the keycap :(
    I changed it to 67g and that fixed it. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:16:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:15:15
    I only have the one that's currently on the board and another thin ABS one. The switch also pings with the spacebar removed, so yes, it's the spring that's too heavy for the keycap :(
    I changed it to 67g and that fixed it. Thanks!

    I love happy endings :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:21:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:16:40
    I love happy endings :D

    Me too, buddy. Me too...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 28 October 2013, 17:09:48
    I'm pretty sure the Cherry G80-1813HFX is 2KRO, is it possible to modify it to 4KRO or 6? HOW TO DO THIS?!  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 28 October 2013, 17:52:05
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 28 October 2013, 17:09:48
    I'm pretty sure the Cherry G80-1813HFX is 2KRO, is it possible to modify it to 4KRO or 6? HOW TO DO THIS?!  ;D
    Not possible to my knowledge.  They have in-switch diodes which limit you to 2KRO
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 28 October 2013, 17:59:56
     :( oh well, thanks anyways.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 28 October 2013, 19:26:52
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 27 October 2013, 21:47:29
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 27 October 2013, 20:55:14
    Probably a stupid question, but whatever...  I see a bunch of 'replacement keycaps' GBs happening.  What is stopping you from just buying a whole set?

    Links?

    The only two I see in the first few pages are R3 and R4 replacements, which I understand to be replacement for faulty or missing sets from the original R3 and R4 GBs.

    I thought this one had 'Replacements' in its title originally: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50159.0

    This one also has 'replacements' in the title: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20485.0

    I thought I had seen another example of this from a while ago when doing some searching as well.  I was just wondering if there was a concept of being able to get only a few replacements keys, but not an entire set.  I am not thinking of a specific GB right now, but I saw it in a couple places, so I figured I would ask.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 October 2013, 19:29:03
    Quote from: swill on Mon, 28 October 2013, 19:26:52
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 27 October 2013, 21:47:29
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 27 October 2013, 20:55:14
    Probably a stupid question, but whatever...  I see a bunch of 'replacement keycaps' GBs happening.  What is stopping you from just buying a whole set?

    Links?

    The only two I see in the first few pages are R3 and R4 replacements, which I understand to be replacement for faulty or missing sets from the original R3 and R4 GBs.

    I thought this one had 'Replacements' in its title originally: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50159.0

    This one also has 'replacements' in the title: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20485.0

    I thought I had seen another example of this from a while ago when doing some searching as well.  I was just wondering if there was a concept of being able to get only a few replacements keys, but not an entire set.  I am not thinking of a specific GB right now, but I saw it in a couple places, so I figured I would ask.

    7bit and the GB runners at DeskThority are just calling the buy "replacements", it's actually a full set GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 28 October 2013, 19:58:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 October 2013, 19:29:03
    Quote from: swill on Mon, 28 October 2013, 19:26:52
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 27 October 2013, 21:47:29
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 27 October 2013, 20:55:14
    Probably a stupid question, but whatever...  I see a bunch of 'replacement keycaps' GBs happening.  What is stopping you from just buying a whole set?

    Links?

    The only two I see in the first few pages are R3 and R4 replacements, which I understand to be replacement for faulty or missing sets from the original R3 and R4 GBs.

    I thought this one had 'Replacements' in its title originally: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50159.0

    This one also has 'replacements' in the title: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20485.0

    I thought I had seen another example of this from a while ago when doing some searching as well.  I was just wondering if there was a concept of being able to get only a few replacements keys, but not an entire set.  I am not thinking of a specific GB right now, but I saw it in a couple places, so I figured I would ask.

    7bit and the GB runners at DeskThority are just calling the buy "replacements", it's actually a full set GB.

    Thank you.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 28 October 2013, 20:06:22
    The reason they are called "replacements" is because they are designed to completely replace the keycaps on your Filco, QFR, etc. without the need for any special caps. For instance, you can use keycaps from old Cherry boards to replace your modern keycaps, but you will need to find a certain number of additional keycaps (aka moogle kit) to be able to use them with your modern keyboard.

    Since they were called "replacements" in the original mass order, the naming convention stuck for subsequent rounds of full set keycap group buys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 October 2013, 10:27:38
    What profile are topre caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 October 2013, 10:30:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 October 2013, 10:27:38
    What profile are topre caps?

    I'm not quite sure but I think they're Topre OEM. The profile felt very close to Cherry Profile when I tried mkawa's RealForce.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 29 October 2013, 22:49:04
    How are korean and cherry stock spring weight calculated? I heard that koreans do it by how much force it takes to bottom out, but cherry is by how much it takes to actuate the switch.

    So that leads to the second question, what conversion would 62g korean to cherry turn out to be?

    NVM ITS IN THE OP

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Wed, 30 October 2013, 00:54:06
    Which screws on the KMAC 2 are used for the WKL aluminum blocks? I think it's the ones with the rounded top in the pic, but just double confirming.

    Question 2: those round screws are also used to screw the plate onto the case bottom right? I only count 10 screw holes for the plate->case is this right?

    Reason I'm asking is because I'm sending moose my alu blocks (I prefer WK layout) and want to know how many screws I can safely send him :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ouimeansyes on Wed, 30 October 2013, 14:32:02
    No easy way to get a hold of a Realforce 23u (white) now that ek are out of stock? Is my only option a proxy?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 October 2013, 15:47:02
    Quote from: ouimeansyes on Wed, 30 October 2013, 14:32:02
    No easy way to get a hold of a Realforce 23u (white) now that ek are out of stock? Is my only option a proxy?

    Thanks.

    I'm not really sure where the best place to get one is. I know Bro Caps spent a while looking for one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 October 2013, 15:48:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 October 2013, 15:47:02
    Quote from: ouimeansyes on Wed, 30 October 2013, 14:32:02
    No easy way to get a hold of a Realforce 23u (white) now that ek are out of stock? Is my only option a proxy?

    Thanks.

    I'm not really sure where the best place to get one is. I know Bro Caps spent a while looking for one.

    Didn't get get a black one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:05:49
    As you all know, there is a new Clack sale on EliteKeyboards (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50298.0). I thought it might be helpful to create a mini FAQ. I've also worked on this Clack Info Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.msg783988#msg783988) if anyone wants a little more detail.

    Novelty caps created by ClickClack and the ClackFactory. Currently they are wildly popular and collectors will pay a lot of money for them. I hold the personal belief that Clacks are worth the price 4Grabs and EK sell the for

    You enter the raffle. If your name is drawn you'll get an email and an invoice to pay for the Clack. The drawing date is listed on the website. In the past, there has been other EK raffles like this current one. And ClickClack will sell them in his 4Grabs thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.0).

    Typically the total turnaround time is two weeks. A week to get the invoice, a week for shipping. Times obviously vary but this is a good time frame.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 30 October 2013, 19:29:12
    How good is this: http://www.amazon.com/Elenco-AmeriKit-Learn-Solder-Kit/dp/B0009Z3JJA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1383178992&sr=8-3&keywords=soldering+kit

    soldering kit? Its designed for beginners(which I am) and includes a practice PCB to solder on.

    So is this worth it to practice soldering and then use the iron again for another project, namely soldering 31 switches for a qazpad from metalliqz?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 30 October 2013, 19:32:19
    Just looking at it, it looks like a really cheap soldering iron and nothing all that great.  It also doesn't state the wattage of the iron.  It may work, but if you can afford it, I'd get something a little nicer.  As for practice, I'd see if you can find something cheap with a PCB at a thrift store or an e-waste recycler.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 30 October 2013, 19:40:44
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 30 October 2013, 19:32:19
    Just looking at it, it looks like a really cheap soldering iron and nothing all that great.  It also doesn't state the wattage of the iron.  It may work, but if you can afford it, I'd get something a little nicer.  As for practice, I'd see if you can find something cheap with a PCB at a thrift store or an e-waste recycler.

    What kind of solder would you recommend?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 October 2013, 19:44:20
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 30 October 2013, 19:40:44
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 30 October 2013, 19:32:19
    Just looking at it, it looks like a really cheap soldering iron and nothing all that great.  It also doesn't state the wattage of the iron.  It may work, but if you can afford it, I'd get something a little nicer.  As for practice, I'd see if you can find something cheap with a PCB at a thrift store or an e-waste recycler.

    What kind of solder would you recommend?

    Have a look through this thread

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:29:21
    Is there a God?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:30:23
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:29:21
    Is there a God?

    You can't prove there's not, so...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:31:36
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:30:23
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:29:21
    Is there a God?

    You can't prove there's not, so...

    Thank you.  That was a simple answer for my simple question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:33:22
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:31:36
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:30:23
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:29:21
    Is there a God?

    You can't prove there's not, so...

    Thank you.  That was a simple answer for my simple question.

    JD is good with the answers!!! ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:38:34
    Is Ray the Batman?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:40:11
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:38:34
    Is Ray the Batman?

    Nope.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=21462
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:44:36
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:38:34
    Is Ray the Batman?

    They say to dress for the job you want,not the job you have!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:00:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:44:36
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:38:34
    Is Ray the Batman?

    They say to dress for the job you want,not the job you have!!

    i.e. princess, apparently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:04:56
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:00:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:44:36
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:38:34
    Is Ray the Batman?

    They say to dress for the job you want,not the job you have!!

    i.e. princess, apparently.

    Princess Batman, please.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:12:23
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:00:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:44:36
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:38:34
    Is Ray the Batman?

    They say to dress for the job you want,not the job you have!!

    i.e. princess, apparently.

    Honestly if I could be a batman princess.....I would be the coolest dad ever, I could finally get my 2 and 5 yr old daughters into batman!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:15:19
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:12:23
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 October 2013, 12:00:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:44:36
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 31 October 2013, 11:38:34
    Is Ray the Batman?

    They say to dress for the job you want,not the job you have!!

    i.e. princess, apparently.

    Honestly if I could be a batman princess.....I would be the coolest dad ever, I could finally get my 2 and 5 yr old daughters into batman!!

    Teen Titans!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 31 October 2013, 17:44:43
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:29:21
    Is there a God?

    More to the point - what keyboard does he use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 31 October 2013, 17:54:35
    Will the price of switches go lower in the future?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 October 2013, 17:56:30
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 31 October 2013, 17:54:35
    Will the price of switches go lower in the future?

    I wouldn't count on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 October 2013, 18:06:44
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 31 October 2013, 17:54:35
    Will the price of switches go lower in the future?

    Doubtful. The switch prices seem pretty good right now. You can get the big four (Red, Black, Blue, Brown) from Sherry for like $.50/switch. MK.com is selling Clears for like $.45/switch. Hell you can get Blacks from WhiskyTango right now for $.25/switch. I don't know how much lower there is to go.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 31 October 2013, 18:40:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 October 2013, 18:06:44
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 31 October 2013, 17:54:35
    Will the price of switches go lower in the future?

    Doubtful. The switch prices seem pretty good right now. You can get the big four (Red, Black, Blue, Brown) from Sherry for like $.50/switch. MK.com is selling Clears for like $.45/switch. Hell you can get Blacks from WhiskyTango right now for $.25/switch. I don't know how much lower there is to go.

    Thanks. I plan to make a 31 key pad in the near future, and a 76 key ergodox in the late future. Didn't know if I should buy the 50 pack at .60 a switch or 110 for .5 a switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 31 October 2013, 19:14:48
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 31 October 2013, 18:40:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 October 2013, 18:06:44
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 31 October 2013, 17:54:35
    Will the price of switches go lower in the future?

    Doubtful. The switch prices seem pretty good right now. You can get the big four (Red, Black, Blue, Brown) from Sherry for like $.50/switch. MK.com is selling Clears for like $.45/switch. Hell you can get Blacks from WhiskyTango right now for $.25/switch. I don't know how much lower there is to go.

    Thanks. I plan to make a 31 key pad in the near future, and a 76 key ergodox in the late future. Didn't know if I should buy the 50 pack at .60 a switch or 110 for .5 a switch.

    I would just get the 110 pack if the cost doesn't hurt to bad and just sell what you don't need here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:07:01
    MX Brown is considered a safe choice for first keyboard, for both typing and gaming. But..what would you recommend for a second keyboard? Would it be better to pick a different switch now or wait, type on Browns and then decide?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:08:20
    Quote from: bMind on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:07:01
    MX Brown is considered a safe choice for first keyboard, for both typing and gaming. But..what would you recommend for a second keyboard? Would it be better to pick a different switch now or wait, type on Browns and then decide?

    Switch type preference is preference. You should try, if you can, to see which one you like the best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:16:29
    Quote from: bMind on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:07:01
    MX Brown is considered a safe choice for first keyboard, for both typing and gaming. But..what would you recommend for a second keyboard? Would it be better to pick a different switch now or wait, type on Browns and then decide?

    So you have an MX Brown board on the way already? If you do, you can probably judge better after trying browns what switch you want to try next. Also, as already recommended, get a switch test kit to see what you like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:07:10
    Haven't ordered my Browns yet but I will, so definitely this will be this type of switch. I will try to get my hands on a tester, but it's kinda expensive to ship it to Poland.

    Anyway thanks for the answers :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:12:44
    Quote from: bMind on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:07:10
    I will try to get my hands on a tester, but it's kinda expensive to ship it to Poland.

    BlueBar is planning on starting a GeekHack European Switch Tester tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50250.0). If that finishes up soon, you might be able to join that tour?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:20:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:12:44
    BlueBar is planning on starting a GeekHack European Switch Tester tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50250.0). If that finishes up soon, you might be able to join that tour?

    That is another idea, however it might still take a while until my tour starts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bMind on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:54:23
    For first switch I'm decided for Browns, so no hurry. It won't be right away that I will be looking for another keyboard so I think I'll be able to join the tour when it will be organized :)

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:11:34
    I need help choosing LEDs:

    Which one guys? Flat top or rectangular?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-2x3x4mm-WHITE-Water-Clear-LED-Lamps-With-12v-Free-Resistors-234W-amy-/321089670304?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac26f8ca0

    VS

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-3mm-White-Flat-Top-Waterclean-White-LED-Light-Lamp-Leds-955-/261315351890?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd79bd552&_uhb=1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:12:48
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:11:34
    I need help choosing LEDs:

    Which one guys? Flat top or rectangular?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-2x3x4mm-WHITE-Water-Clear-LED-Lamps-With-12v-Free-Resistors-234W-amy-/321089670304?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac26f8ca0

    VS

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-3mm-White-Flat-Top-Waterclean-White-LED-Light-Lamp-Leds-955-/261315351890?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd79bd552&_uhb=1

    I'm a fan of the 2x3x4mm LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:13:30
    Anyone have experience with retrobrite? how easy is it to make? expensive to make?

    going to need it for an incoming board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:15:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:12:48
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:11:34
    I need help choosing LEDs:

    Which one guys? Flat top or rectangular?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-2x3x4mm-WHITE-Water-Clear-LED-Lamps-With-12v-Free-Resistors-234W-amy-/321089670304?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac26f8ca0

    VS

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-3mm-White-Flat-Top-Waterclean-White-LED-Light-Lamp-Leds-955-/261315351890?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd79bd552&_uhb=1

    I'm a fan of the 2x3x4mm LEDs.

    Is there any particular reason? I ordered flangeless ones off eBay and it's been 4 weeks...so I'm trying to buy from someone else. I need these for my DS2! I even got my Clear switches before these came and I ordered them last week :(...My ergo clear DS2 is waiting for me!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:17:19
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:15:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:12:48
    I'm a fan of the 2x3x4mm LEDs.

    Is there any particular reason? I ordered flangeless ones off eBay and it's been 4 weeks...so I'm trying to buy from someone else. I need these for my DS2! I even got my Clear switches before these came and I ordered them last week :(...My ergo clear DS2 is waiting for me!

    They fit? I don't have to do anything to the LEDs. Just put em in the right way, solder them up, done. The other shapes you might have issues with fitment with the caps and have to sand them down.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:18:00
    It's easy.  Don't even bother with the oxyclean and whatnot, just do hydrogen peroxide.  You can go to a beauty supply store and either get a liquid or a cream.  I did a liquid last time I did it and I had to toss acrylic on top of the caps so they wouldn't float on top, so the cream and saran wrap may be better.  Use gloves and a brush, then just leave it outside.

    And if you're worried about the plastic being brittle at all, don't retrobrite since it does degrade the plastic a little.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:19:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:17:19
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:15:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:12:48
    I'm a fan of the 2x3x4mm LEDs.

    Is there any particular reason? I ordered flangeless ones off eBay and it's been 4 weeks...so I'm trying to buy from someone else. I need these for my DS2! I even got my Clear switches before these came and I ordered them last week :(...My ergo clear DS2 is waiting for me!

    They fit? I don't have to do anything to the LEDs. Just put em in the right way, solder them up, done. The other shapes you might have issues with fitment with the caps and have to sand them down.

    The ones without the flanges are somewhere stuck in between Hong Kong and Canada. My keyboard is currently LED less and I'm itching to try my ergo clears :(. So does the majority of GHers use these types?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:23:49
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:13:30
    Anyone have experience with retrobrite? how easy is it to make? expensive to make?

    going to need it for an incoming board

    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:18:00
    It's easy.  Don't even bother with the oxyclean and whatnot, just do hydrogen peroxide.  You can go to a beauty supply store and either get a liquid or a cream.  I did a liquid last time I did it and I had to toss acrylic on top of the caps so they wouldn't float on top, so the cream and saran wrap may be better.  Use gloves and a brush, then just leave it outside.

    And if you're worried about the plastic being brittle at all, don't retrobrite since it does degrade the plastic a little.

    Dubsgalore also asked this in IRC, OO2 was commenting so I thought I'd post here. Yes I asked him for permission to quote him:
    <OO2> the gel was made to 'go a long way' because it was invented by guys who wanted to do their whole computers
    <OO2> if you can afford it, I'd just get the H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) alone, and some Oxyclean
    <OO2> soak the case
    <OO2> in sunlight, or a UV light if you have one
    <OO2> I used 6% H2O2 and it was fine
    <OO2> 8% H2O2 would be good I think
    <OO2> check it every 2 hours or so
    Then he recommended checking this out (http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/goupil-cherry-industrial-keyboard-g81-1236-t4885.html#p106318)

    <CommunistWitchDr> My mix was just h2o2, oxiclean, and corn starch for gelifying the main case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:32:44
    yepp^^ thanks anyway nubbs

    I'm going to go with 5L of Water, 1/4 tsp of Oxy, and 300 mL of H202, and let it soak for 12 hours, probably on a sunday, in good sunlight

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 November 2013, 21:31:00
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:32:44
    yepp^^ thanks anyway nubbs

    I'm going to go with 5L of Water, 1/4 tsp of Oxy, and 300 mL of H202, and let it soak for 12 hours, probably on a sunday, in good sunlight

    Unless you're getting a super high concentration of peroxide (which you can't find in stores) do no dilute it with the water.  You'd be talking a lab grade peroxide if you're going to dilute it.  Just go to a beauty supply store and get the 6-8% peroxide and do that alone.  And the reason I say that Oxy isn't necessary is that it doesn't make it any whiter.  In fact, some people say it makes things worse and is the source of the"blooming" that retrobrighting sometimes causes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 01 November 2013, 23:13:04
    Has anyone ever made a clicky rubber dome keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 02 November 2013, 05:58:13
    Ive seen people reply to photos with Potato. What do they mean?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 02 November 2013, 06:34:46
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sat, 02 November 2013, 05:58:13
    Ive seen people reply to photos with Potato. What do they mean?

    The picture is so bad they must have used a potato.....usually a cell phone camera...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 02 November 2013, 06:40:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 02 November 2013, 06:34:46
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sat, 02 November 2013, 05:58:13
    Ive seen people reply to photos with Potato. What do they mean?

    The picture is so bad they must have used a potato.....usually a cell phone camera...

    Haha ohhhh thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 02 November 2013, 07:52:02
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sat, 02 November 2013, 06:40:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 02 November 2013, 06:34:46
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sat, 02 November 2013, 05:58:13
    Ive seen people reply to photos with Potato. What do they mean?

    The picture is so bad they must have used a potato.....usually a cell phone camera...

    Haha ohhhh thanks!

    I concur.  I would even still call pics with the new Nokia Windows phone with the 41 megapixel camera potatoes pics due to the size of the CMOS sensor.  Now where the term potato comes from I have no idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:00:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 02 November 2013, 07:52:02
    Now where the term potato comes from I have no idea.

    YouTube, apparently. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/recorded-with-a-potato
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:19:32
    What does un-dyed ABS look like?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:30:29
    ABS caps are colored with an additive in the plastic itself.  When the plastic goes into the machine that actually makes the caps in its raw material form it is already colored.  As far as what it looks like without any color additive I couldn't tell you that.  My guess would be some sort of off white.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:35:13
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:19:32
    What does un-dyed ABS look like?

    (http://store.makerbot.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/470x220/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/n/a/natural_3mm_kilo_800.jpg)
    From Makerbot's site (http://store.makerbot.com/natural-abs-1kg-spool-3mm-filament.html)

    (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-171k3W-JeA8/TiV49IdGGvI/AAAAAAAAAXw/bj_mGXuCzAg/s1600/Natural_ABS.jpg)
    From the Richrap blog (http://richrap.blogspot.com/2011/07/1st-prusa-child-issues-with-abs.html)

    In the future, if you're just looking for pictures you can Google Image Search "Un-dyed ABS" or "Natural ABS". Not to be mean but I'm trying not to be in the business of doing simple Google Searches for people.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:54:17
    Ah my mistake, I had been googling un-dyed ABS but it didn't bring anything (relevant) up for me. To further my question, is the YCA SP colour ring http://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/9280304434/in/set-72157634628432952 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/9280304434/in/set-72157634628432952) likely to be un-dyed/natural?

    edit - Just looked further into the SP website and it seems that it is listed as YCA GLOW there. Apologies for answering my own question there..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:57:11
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:54:17
    Is the YCA SP colour ring http://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/9280304434/in/set-72157634628432952 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/9280304434/in/set-72157634628432952) likely to be un-dyed/natural?

    Yes, I would say that it looks like natural/un-dyed ABS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 02 November 2013, 14:06:38
    I have some SP glow caps and it's got a slight greenish hue, likely due to the addition of glow dye to the mix.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 03 November 2013, 03:54:34
    How hard do you need to press to correctly seat Topre keycap?

    I pressed until I met reasonable resistance, but the keycaps were still taller than the surrounding ones.  So I pressed really hard, and the keycap popped down with a loud audible CLACK.  Seemed to require much more force than MX to get on.  This is HHKB Pro 2 and lavender WASD that came with it.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: babyface on Sun, 03 November 2013, 06:00:53
    What units are the keys to the right of the space bar on poker ii? The bottom row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 03 November 2013, 06:07:26
    Quote from: babyface on Sun, 03 November 2013, 06:00:53
    What units are the keys to the right of the space bar on poker ii? The bottom row.

    1x1.25
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 03 November 2013, 13:43:01
    Before I purchase 55g springs from Sherryton, are they a bit heaver than the stock red/blue/brown springs? This actuation stuff has gotten me confused D:.

    Edit-

    Did some Googling and its a bit lighter than stock red/blue/brown springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 03 November 2013, 13:57:47
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 03 November 2013, 13:43:01
    Before I purchase 55g springs from Sherryton, are they a bit heaver than the stock red/blue/brown springs? This actuation stuff has gotten me confused D:.

    They are actually lighter. Original light Cherry springs are about 60g (actually a bit heavier, but so are Sherrytons according to rknize's measurements).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 03 November 2013, 15:23:48
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 03 November 2013, 13:57:47
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 03 November 2013, 13:43:01
    Before I purchase 55g springs from Sherryton, are they a bit heaver than the stock red/blue/brown springs? This actuation stuff has gotten me confused D:.

    They are actually lighter. Original light Cherry springs are about 60g (actually a bit heavier, but so are Sherrytons according to rknize's measurements).

    Thanks for the reply! I just purchase 62g "limited" springs from Sherryton.

    I'm disappointed as I did not know that stock MX springs from red/blue/brown switches stick in clear switches (even with lubricant!).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 November 2013, 15:36:03
    Quote from: babyface on Sun, 03 November 2013, 06:00:53
    What units are the keys to the right of the space bar on poker ii? The bottom row.

    Reference picture:
    (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_458_sdc12627.jpg)
    Borrowed from MK.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=458)

    Those keys are 1.25x. They keyboard is standard ANSI 1.25x so the bottom row is:

    1.25x - 1.25x - 1.25x - 6.25x - 1.25x - 1.25x - 1.25x - 1.25x

    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 03 November 2013, 13:43:01
    Before I purchase 55g springs from Sherryton, are they a bit heaver than the stock red/blue/brown springs? This actuation stuff has gotten me confused D:.

    Edit-

    Did some Googling and its a bit lighter than stock red/blue/brown springs.

    Just for future reference, check out this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_DD) which links to rkinze's post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: catnipz0098 on Sun, 03 November 2013, 15:44:38
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 03 November 2013, 15:23:48
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 03 November 2013, 13:57:47
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 03 November 2013, 13:43:01
    Before I purchase 55g springs from Sherryton, are they a bit heaver than the stock red/blue/brown springs? This actuation stuff has gotten me confused D:.

    They are actually lighter. Original light Cherry springs are about 60g (actually a bit heavier, but so are Sherrytons according to rknize's measurements).

    Thanks for the reply! I just purchase 62g "limited" springs from Sherryton.

    I'm disappointed as I did not know that stock MX springs from red/blue/brown switches stick in clear switches (even with lubricant!).

    Why can't they stick without lubricant?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 November 2013, 15:47:43
    Quote from: catnipz0098 on Sun, 03 November 2013, 15:44:38
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 03 November 2013, 15:23:48
    I'm disappointed as I did not know that stock MX springs from red/blue/brown switches stick in clear switches (even with lubricant!).

    Why can't they stick without lubricant?

    The spring is too light and causes the switches to be sticky or return slowly. Lubricant should help the issue but the stock Red/Blue/Brown spring has always felt sticky to me. It was only on mistakemistake's 55g (Korean gold spring) LZ-GH did I try modified light Clears that weren't sticky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: moogle on Sun, 03 November 2013, 18:28:12
    where would one find RGB modifier keys which fit a kingsaver?

    (http://i.imgur.com/rGhUZgR.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 November 2013, 19:11:21
    Quote from: moogle on Sun, 03 November 2013, 18:28:12
    where would one find RGB modifier keys which fit a kingsaver?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/rGhUZgR.jpg)


    I got your answer! But you should cite your sources, aka where you got the picture from, in the future. Just out of respect for whomever posted the info/picture/whatever and because it'll be easier for people to track down information for you. For anyone reading this later, the answer to the question can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50430.msg1101102#msg1101102)

    Quote from: sherryton on Sun, 03 November 2013, 19:05:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 November 2013, 19:03:43
    Where are those RGB sets from by the way? Does anyone know?

    Hand made buddy!  The guy (creator of the Kingsaver) dye sublimated the RGB himself.  I am sorry for not putting this earlier.

    I am not sure how imperfect they are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: moogle on Sun, 03 November 2013, 19:14:31
    thank you captain!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: techzen on Sun, 03 November 2013, 20:34:21
    I want to make an 8x8, or more, square bank of mechanical switches.  I do not want any key staggering I just want a perfectly aligned set of keys.  edit: I'd also like to be able to hold down as many as I want and have them register, even if I might not ever need it.

    I've been looking for days on a way to make something like this step by step but all the information seems to be for either everything I do not want to do or someone posts a hey look what I made and there's no way I can reproduce it.

    Is there a step-by-step guide from start to finish on how to do something like this?  From what parts to buy, to how to make the housing, to what the code is, etc.  I hope to use a teensy 2.0, because it seems to be fairly popular and I could also use it to emulate a joystick if I end up having to do that.

    It's honestly blowing my mind that nobody, from what I could find so far, has made just a ton of keys in a square configuration yet and then explained how to do it.   Maybe it's so easy it's not worth posting, but it would help me out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:04:10
    Quote from: techzen on Sun, 03 November 2013, 20:34:21
    It's honestly blowing my mind that nobody, from what I could find so far, has made just a ton of keys in a square configuration yet and then explained how to do it.   Maybe it's so easy it's not worth posting, but it would help me out.

    It's honestly mindblowing you couldn't find the huge highlighted bolded, stickied threads (three of which I've linked below for you to read over to help you start) in Making Stuff Together. See, I can make sweeping generalizations that put people down too...If you want help, just ask. No need to make statements to put anyone down.

    The reason there's not one central thread is because this isn't an easy process. And this isn't a simple question. I can point you in the right direction but your project will be very involved and not very easy.

    Quote from: techzen on Sun, 03 November 2013, 20:34:21
    Is there a step-by-step guide from start to finish on how to do something like this?  From what parts to buy, to how to make the housing, to what the code is, etc.  I hope to use a teensy 2.0, because it seems to be fairly popular and I could also use it to emulate a joystick if I end up having to do that.

    No there is no step by step guide. You'll have to read a bunch of threads. I suggest these as a foundation:

    Custom layout thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0)
    CAD file hub (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.0)
    Controller/Converter information (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)
    Keyboard firmware code (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0)
    Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0)
    From the GHPad Thread, you can get a glimpse as to the what parts you might need (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38963.msg1049952;topicseen#msg1049952) and the assembly process[/url].

    Edit: BlueBar's Keyboard Modding topic (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_CCC) might help too.

    Edit 2: Soarer just came out with new firmware. Thread is here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50437.0;topicseen).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:07:28
    ^ good info here.  thanks for putting that together cpt...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: techzen on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:18:10
    Thanks for the help, I did go to all of those threads except the soldering one.  I didn't mean the fact that I couldn't believe there wasn't a tutorial to be an insult to anybody, I just meant that I thought a symmetrical keypad would be a very common thing.  I will continue to look around and see if anybody has done something similar enough that I can follow it.

    Maybe I'll just buy four teensy 2.0 and combine 4x4 or 2x2 keypads or something.

    Why does everything I think of trying have to be so borderline impossible or something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:31:56
    Quote from: techzen on Sun, 03 November 2013, 20:34:21
    I want to make an 8x8, or more, square bank of mechanical switches.  I do not want any key staggering I just want a perfectly aligned set of keys.  edit: I'd also like to be able to hold down as many as I want and have them register, even if I might not ever need it.

    Does this help you at all? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45389.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: techzen on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:38:47
    Thanks again, I will check out out.  I'm sure if I can manage to build one or more of those it would do just fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:31:35
    Is it possible to do a triple shot print on a white cap with a blue base font and red font just askew of it to create a 3D effect? Not worried about cost, just curious if it's possible.
    [attachimg=1]
    ^like so^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:50:02
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:31:35
    Is it possible to do a triple shot print on a white cap with a blue base font and red font just askew of it to create a 3D effect? Not worried about cost, just curious if it's possible.
    (Attachment Link)
    ^like so^

    This in a triple shot would be crazy expensive if even possible.  I have only heard of a very few select sets of vintage caps that were true triple shot.  My suggestion if you are going to have this made would be dye sub.  It would be much cheaper. 

    Besides with the 3 colors in the font that would make these quadruple shot and I don't think anyone has done that.  Let alone with different colors in the font actually touching.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vardhana on Mon, 04 November 2013, 00:31:07
    What connector does SGI 9500801 have?
    I know this can't use with PC/AT compatible. Just curious.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 06:31:34
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:31:35
    Is it possible to do a triple shot print on a white cap with a blue base font and red font just askew of it to create a 3D effect? Not worried about cost, just curious if it's possible.
    (Attachment Link)
    ^like so^

    Don't think it's possible. The way you have it shown, there's overlap and I don't think the legend would be crisp. I don't think the plastic would set right either. I'm not 100% sure though. Maybe PM BLJ Consulting? Or I can.

    I think melvang is right with the dye-sub suggestion.

    Quote from: vardhana on Mon, 04 November 2013, 00:31:07
    What connector does SGI 9500801 have?
    I know this can't use with PC/AT compatible. Just curious.

    I think this website has the right info (http://hardware.majix.org/computers/sgi.pi/keyboard.shtml). Looks to be a DB9 connector.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 04 November 2013, 07:03:00
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:31:35
    Is it possible to do a triple shot print on a white cap with a blue base font and red font just askew of it to create a 3D effect? Not worried about cost, just curious if it's possible.
    (Attachment Link)

    With dyesub you might only need two colors, as they should just mix - not sure though. Doing something like that with a tripleshot could be possible in theory, however I think you would have to use a bolder font, else the red part will get too small.

    Quote from: techzen on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:18:10
    Maybe I'll just buy four teensy 2.0 and combine 4x4 or 2x2 keypads or something.

    Why does everything I think of trying have to be so borderline impossible or something.

    That project is far from "borderline impossible". You would actually just need 1 teensy as it should have enough pins to connect 8 rows and 8 columns. Apart from that you would need a custom plate, some diodes, some wires and that's it. For a basic plate you need cutouts of 0.55x0.55 inch and 0.2 inch between each cutout, use a 1.5mm thick aluminium plate. For the rest this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20898.0) and the links Catptain posted should help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 07:32:21
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 04 November 2013, 07:03:00
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:31:35
    Is it possible to do a triple shot print on a white cap with a blue base font and red font just askew of it to create a 3D effect? Not worried about cost, just curious if it's possible.
    (Attachment Link)

    With dyesub you might only need two colors, as they should just mix - not sure though. Doing something like that with a tripleshot could be possible in theory, however I think you would have to use a bolder font, else the red part will get too small.

    Quote from: techzen on Sun, 03 November 2013, 21:18:10
    Maybe I'll just buy four teensy 2.0 and combine 4x4 or 2x2 keypads or something.

    Why does everything I think of trying have to be so borderline impossible or something.

    That project is far from "borderline impossible". You would actually just need 1 teensy as it should have enough pins to connect 8 rows and 8 columns. Apart from that you would need a custom plate, some diodes, some wires and that's it. For a basic plate you need cutouts of 0.55x0.55 inch and 0.2 inch between each cutout, use a 1.5mm thick aluminium plate. For the rest this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20898.0) and the links Catptain posted should help.

    I concur with this last remark.  According to Cherry spec sheets the switch holes are .551"x.551" +/-.002 with .75" from center to center on switch holes and a plate thickness according to Cherry would be .060" +/-.004.  16 gauge works well since it is supposed to be .0625" depending on manufacturer tolerances.

    Couple questions for myself.

    Is there a picture anywhere comparing switch springs for identifying by look?  I have a bunch of springs that I have sorted by how they look based on length and number of coils.  I was wondering if there is any pics available that I can look at to ID my rogue springs.

    I know there is a video link for making your own cherry wires but does anyone know of a video for making your own costar wires?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 08:44:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 07:32:21
    1) Is there a picture anywhere comparing switch springs for identifying by look?

    2) I know there is a video link for making your own cherry wires but does anyone know of a video for making your own costar wires?

    1) Ripster has a nice album (http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4).

    2) I've not seen one yet. It might exist, I'll take a look in a little while.

    Edit: I got confused and can't read :(. I don't think I've seen a Cherry wire guide but the Costar stabilizer wire is more complex than the Cherry wire so this video will work great. This info is also in the OP. Thanks jdcarpe for making me realize my confusion.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:44:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 07:32:21
    ... does anyone know of a video for making your own costar wires?

    From Litster himself:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:35:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 08:44:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 07:32:21
    1) Is there a picture anywhere comparing switch springs for identifying by look?

    2) I know there is a video link for making your own cherry wires but does anyone know of a video for making your own costar wires?

    1) Ripster has a nice album (http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4).

    2) I've not seen one yet. It might exist, I'll take a look in a little while.

    Amazing guide there Cpt.  If this is the link in the OP could a small note be added to that about the visual comparisons on the springs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:44:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 07:32:21
    ... does anyone know of a video for making your own costar wires?

    From Litster himself:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:47:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:35:27
    Amazing guide there Cpt.  If this is the link in the OP could a small note be added to that about the visual comparisons on the springs?

    Done. Check out this post in the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg803569#post_DD) and let me know if that looks good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:50:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:47:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:35:27
    Amazing guide there Cpt.  If this is the link in the OP could a small note be added to that about the visual comparisons on the springs?

    Done. Check out this post in the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg803569#post_DD) and let me know if that looks good.

    Looks great Cpt. 

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:44:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 07:32:21
    ... does anyone know of a video for making your own costar wires?

    From Litster himself:


    Thanks Jd I forgot about that one.  Man I really need to be making a folder for just keyboard reference bookmarks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:30:24
    Is there a wyse replica set? If so, what is it called?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:33:06
    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:30:24
    Is there a wyse replica set? If so, what is it called?

    The original WYSE replica set was a Korean GB set, called SoWaRe. Current market price seems to be about $160.

    Round 4 had a "Retro" set, which was similar to WYSE or SoWaRe colors.

    I believe Sherryton is making a SoWaRe replica set, made by GMK.

    There have also been WYSE moogle and tsangan kits made, to make the originals compatible with modern boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:33:53
    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:30:24
    Is there a wyse replica set? If so, what is it called?

    There is also this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49834)

    Anyone know the distance from the plate to the bottom of the cap using DCS caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:38:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 November 2013, 15:36:03

    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 03 November 2013, 13:43:01
    Before I purchase 55g springs from Sherryton, are they a bit heaver than the stock red/blue/brown springs? This actuation stuff has gotten me confused D:.

    Edit-

    Did some Googling and its a bit lighter than stock red/blue/brown springs.

    Just for future reference, check out this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_DD) which links to rkinze's post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0).

    Thanks for posting this reference link. Much appreciated! You are extremely helpful :D!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:56:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:33:53
    Anyone know the distance from the plate to the bottom of the cap using DCS caps?

    If you don't get an answer, I'll take this measurement for you later.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 12:03:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:56:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:33:53
    Anyone know the distance from the plate to the bottom of the cap using DCS caps?

    If you don't get an answer, I'll take this measurement for you later.

    excellent thanx Cpt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 12:53:53
    Saw this in another topic and wanted to archive it somewhere so I'm just going to leave it here. Not sure if it needs to be added to the FAQ.


    Question: Why does USPS delivery time seem to change throughout the year?

    Answer:
    Quote from: salmo on Sun, 03 November 2013, 08:11:10
    Now's a good time for USPS shipping because Fedex and Passenger airlines sell their empty cargo space to the post office. It's a pretty slow time for both so there's lots of extra room to be sold.  In about 2 weeks, those same packages would be going by truck when those airlines start hitting peak volumes for Thanksgiving -> New Years.  Valentines and tax time are the next major bumps in shipping for the year.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 12:56:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 12:53:53
    Saw this in another topic and wanted to archive it somewhere so I'm just going to leave it here. Not sure if it needs to be added to the FAQ.


    Question: Why does USPS delivery time seem to change throughout the year?

    Answer:
    Quote from: salmo on Sun, 03 November 2013, 08:11:10
    Now's a good time for USPS shipping because Fedex and Passenger airlines sell their empty cargo space to the post office. It's a pretty slow time for both so there's lots of extra room to be sold.  In about 2 weeks, those same packages would be going by truck when those airlines start hitting peak volumes for Thanksgiving -> New Years.  Valentines and tax time are the next major bumps in shipping for the year.

    good to know
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:03:41
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:04:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 12:53:53
    Saw this in another topic and wanted to archive it somewhere so I'm just going to leave it here. Not sure if it needs to be added to the FAQ.


    Question: Why does USPS delivery time seem to change throughout the year?

    Answer:
    Quote from: salmo on Sun, 03 November 2013, 08:11:10
    Now's a good time for USPS shipping because Fedex and Passenger airlines sell their empty cargo space to the post office. It's a pretty slow time for both so there's lots of extra room to be sold.  In about 2 weeks, those same packages would be going by truck when those airlines start hitting peak volumes for Thanksgiving -> New Years.  Valentines and tax time are the next major bumps in shipping for the year.

    Sweet! Hopefully my springs from Sherryton will be here soon :D!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:04:44
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:03:41
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

    wut??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:05:31
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:03:41
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

    Every all about the time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:41:51
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 13:03:41
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

    Yesno.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:29:47
    Difference between 62g and 62g limited springs @ originative? I'm confused.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:34:59
    Where can I get cherry stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:37:07
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:29:47
    Difference between 62g and 62g limited springs @ originative? I'm confused.

    I wondered this as well a while ago, this is part of the PM I got:
    Quote
    These are more special, and have been trialed.  The previous springs are absolutely great as well.  The new ones make a minor difference, but these enthusiasts now say that these are their favorites.  They have been through approximately 5+ trials.



    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:34:59
    Where can I get cherry stabilizers?

    In the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:55:33
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:37:07
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:29:47
    Difference between 62g and 62g limited springs @ originative? I'm confused.

    I wondered this as well a while ago, this is part of the PM I got:
    Quote
    These are more special, and have been trialed.  The previous springs are absolutely great as well.  The new ones make a minor difference, but these enthusiasts now say that these are their favorites.  They have been through approximately 5+ trials.



    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:34:59
    Where can I get cherry stabilizers?

    In the OP.

    +2, I ordered the 62g limited cause they were only $2 more each :P.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 04 November 2013, 22:47:58
    Can anyone confirm is these are alps compatible?  Came from an old Optimal keyboard.  Tried searching for the board, but could find nothing.  The board itself is rubber dome, but the caps look identical to some posted on Desk Authority as being compatible with alps.  They are DS abs I believe and are very close to SP profile. 

    [attach=1]

    this is the board they came from:
    [attach=2]

    Color seems to match my model M perfectly:
    [attach=3]

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 04 November 2013, 23:01:07
    I can't 100% confirm for that particular board, but I have owned rubber domes that had alps compatible caps, so I would bet on yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 04 November 2013, 23:01:57
    Quote from: Badwrench on Mon, 04 November 2013, 22:47:58
    Can anyone confirm is these are alps compatible?  Came from an old Optimal keyboard.  Tried searching for the board, but could find nothing.  The board itself is rubber dome, but the caps look identical to some posted on Desk Authority as being compatible with alps.  They are DS abs I believe and are very close to SP profile. 

    (Attachment Link)

    this is the board they came from:
    (Attachment Link)

    Color seems to match my model M perfectly:
    (Attachment Link)



    They are ALPS compatible. The profile may not match up with some of your ALPS boards but they will work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 04 November 2013, 23:04:15
    Cool.  Gonna just blow them out then in the classifieds as I don't own an alps board.  Thanks for the quick responses  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 03:54:29
    I just bought the Filco Ninja TKL brown which is my first mech keyboard, and it feels amazing typing on it.

    Before I start pouring money into keycaps, I need some clarifications on a few questions:
    1) Most of the keycaps that I'm looking at are ABS Doubleshots. As far as I understand, Filco has their own profile for keycaps. Does this mean that if I do get a couple of doubleshots, they will be much taller than the other keys?

    2) If that's the case, is the next step to buy a full set of keycaps to replace the ninja keys?

    3) I've noticed that there are also PBT keycaps, and I was wondering if they are of the same profile (height) as the ABS keycaps?

    4) What replacement keycaps should I get for my 87keys filco?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 05 November 2013, 05:59:26
    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 03:54:29
    1) Most of the keycaps that I'm looking at are ABS Doubleshots. As far as I understand, Filco has their own profile for keycaps. Does this mean that if I do get a couple of doubleshots, they will be much taller than the other keys?

    That depends on the set, but most sets should actually be a bit smaller than the Filco caps.

    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 03:54:29
    2) If that's the case, is the next step to buy a full set of keycaps to replace the ninja keys?

    If you want to avoid height differences, a complete set or a mix of sets from the same manufacturer or with the same profile is the way to go.

    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 03:54:29
    3) I've noticed that there are also PBT keycaps, and I was wondering if they are of the same profile (height) as the ABS keycaps?

    PBT is just the type of plastic and is available in various profiles, just like ABS.

    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 03:54:29
    4) What replacement keycaps should I get for my 87keys filco?

    Some that you like? Any preferences?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:13:59
    Was you able to get that measurement for me cpt?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:36:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 05 November 2013, 05:59:26
    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 03:54:29
    1) Most of the keycaps that I'm looking at are ABS Doubleshots. As far as I understand, Filco has their own profile for keycaps. Does this mean that if I do get a couple of doubleshots, they will be much taller than the other keys?

    That depends on the set, but most sets should actually be a bit smaller than the Filco caps.

    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 03:54:29
    2) If that's the case, is the next step to buy a full set of keycaps to replace the ninja keys?

    If you want to avoid height differences, a complete set or a mix of sets from the same manufacturer or with the same profile is the way to go.

    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 03:54:29
    3) I've noticed that there are also PBT keycaps, and I was wondering if they are of the same profile (height) as the ABS keycaps?

    PBT is just the type of plastic and is available in various profiles, just like ABS.

    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 03:54:29
    4) What replacement keycaps should I get for my 87keys filco?

    Some that you like? Any preferences?

    Thanks for your quick reply BlueBär

    I've been looking around and just stumbled upon wasdkeyboards, am I right to say that their keycaps are the same height as the filcos? And that these are taller than the ones from keypop and techkeys? Is there a photo showing a comparison of the different heights of the profiles?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:38:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:13:59
    Was you able to get that measurement for me cpt?

    No, I will at work today though. Calipers were there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:51:05
    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:36:59
    I've been looking around and just stumbled upon wasdkeyboards, am I right to say that their keycaps are the same height as the filcos? And that these are taller than the ones from keypop and techkeys? Is there a photo showing a comparison of the different heights of the profiles?

    Note: WASD does not produce doubleshots (cause you were asking about doubleshots before).

    Their caps should have a similar profile to the original Filco caps, I can't say if they are exactly the same though. Afaik Keypop and Techkeys both sell caps from Signature Plastics so they should be lower than the Filco caps.

    Here a few pictures I could find:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38987.msg768279#msg768279
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38870.msg755544#msg755544
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35285.msg654984#msg654984
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 07:11:10
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:51:05
    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:36:59
    I've been looking around and just stumbled upon wasdkeyboards, am I right to say that their keycaps are the same height as the filcos? And that these are taller than the ones from keypop and techkeys? Is there a photo showing a comparison of the different heights of the profiles?

    Note: WASD does not produce doubleshots (cause you were asking about doubleshots before).

    Their caps should have a similar profile to the original Filco caps, I can't say if they are exactly the same though. Afaik Keypop and Techkeys both sell caps from Signature Plastics so they should be lower than the Filco caps.

    Here a few pictures I could find:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38987.msg768279#msg768279
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38870.msg755544#msg755544
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35285.msg654984#msg654984

    Thanks for the links, they helped a lot :)

    Now, what are some good replacement keycaps to go with the novelty SPs from keypop/techkeys so that the height differences are not noticeable, since I've read that SPs ABS are thin and not as good for everyday use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 07:30:26
    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 07:11:10
    Now, what are some good replacement keycaps to go with the novelty SPs from keypop/techkeys so that the height differences are not noticeable, since I've read that SPs ABS are thin and not as good for everyday use.

    Cherry profile caps will work fine. Also you should try the caps before making a judgment. I type on SP caps daily at work and I think they're fine. I actually like thin ABS paired with Blues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 05 November 2013, 07:36:23
    Quote from: cruk on Tue, 05 November 2013, 07:11:10
    Now, what are some good replacement keycaps to go with the novelty SPs from keypop/techkeys so that the height differences are not noticeable, since I've read that SPs ABS are thin and not as good for everyday use.

    The caps you are typing on are thin and ABS as well. I wouldn't say that they are not good for everyday use at all. I would recommend just going through a few of the geekhack media threads to see what you like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 08:29:45
    This isn't really a Simple Question, nor is it a Simple Answer, but rather a statement.

    There currently exists a bias on Geekhack when it comes to keycaps. That bias is towards PBT, the thicker the better, and away from thin ABS. Thick ABS is somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.

    However, just like with switch preference, the type of keycaps you prefer is just that, a personal preference. Just because one person loves thick PBT, doesn't mean it is the best, nor does it mean that YOU will like it best. I personally prefer thick ABS from Cherry/GMK the best, but I don't mind thin ABS from SP at all. I certainly prefer them to the super-textured PBT that is common, and feels slippery to my fingers.

    So, just because a group of people have decided that thick PBT is the "best," doesn't necessarily make it so. I think some of it is the "bandwagon" effect. Certainly some of it is because ABS does tend to develop a shine, i.e. lose its texture, with use, which some people find distasteful.

    But the main point of my rambling is that, just like BlueBär and CPTBadAss expressed, you should try different keycap sets and decide from your actual experience which is better, to you. Don't just take someone's word for it. I could tell you that 65g linear MX switches are the "best," but they may not be the best for you, and you may prefer 67g clicky MX, pink Alps, capacitive buckling springs, or even 55g Topre.

    That is the wonderful thing about this point in time. There exists a multitude of options when it comes to keyboards and their accessories, and you have many choices you can make when purchasing these items. We have demonstrated to manufacturers that there is a market for these things, and we will support their products if they continue to innovate and improve. Also, if something doesn't exist yet, or isn't readily available, we make things ourselves. That, to me, is the fun part of this hobby.

    Try new things. Make decisions based on your experiences. Enjoy your feeling! of oneness with cup rubber! Live long, and prosper! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 05 November 2013, 08:54:14
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 08:29:45
    That is the wonderful thing about this point in time. There exists a multitude of options when it comes to keyboards and their accessories, and you have many choices you can make when purchasing these items. We have demonstrated to manufacturers that there is a market for these things, and we will support their products if they continue to innovate and improve. Also, if something doesn't exist yet, or isn't readily available, we make things ourselves. That, to me, is the fun part of this hobby.

    Very well said!

    Also, get out of my head, I'm typing on 65g Vintage Blacks and I have 67g Whites ready for my GH60...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:43:40
    Right now my wife is using this rubber dome keyboard (http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/498989-Wolf-Claw-Gaming-Keyboard), but likes reds and would be interested in a TKL layout with no side print legends.  My question: should I get her the QFR or Filco Majestouch-2?  I'm not real keen on the legends on the QFR but I know she wants a purple keyset.  Suggestions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:54:54
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:43:40
    My question: should I get her the QFR or Filco Majestouch-2?

    Has she tried either of these? Maybe at Keycon or in store? If she has a preference, go for that. Then if she's only going to have one keyboard, I would suggest the MJ2. My personal opinion is that Filcos are the best stock MX keyboards in terms of quality, durability, and "modability".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:08:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:54:54
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 09:43:40
    My question: should I get her the QFR or Filco Majestouch-2?

    Has she tried either of these? Maybe at Keycon or in store? If she has a preference, go for that. Then if she's only going to have one keyboard, I would suggest the MJ2. My personal opinion is that Filcos are the best stock MX keyboards in terms of quality, durability, and "modability".

    I don't think she really got around to try out different keyboards.  She did try the switch tester and really like the reds but hated about everything else.  It will be her only keyboard.  I was leaning toward the Filco but then right before I hit "Submit" I remember the QFR and looked up price difference between the two on amazon.  The Filco being almost twice as much.  By all means I don't have any issues with buying quality as chances are cost per year works out less.  So I thought I would ask on some quick opinions here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:12:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:08:31
    I don't think she really got around to try out different keyboards.  She did try the switch tester and really like the reds but hated about everything else.  It will be her only keyboard.  I was leaning toward the Filco but then right before I hit "Submit" I remember the QFR and looked up price difference between the two on amazon.  The Filco being almost twice as much.  By all means I don't have any issues with buying quality as chances are cost per year works out less.  So I thought I would ask on some quick opinions here.

    I like working on the Filco PCB/keyboard when modding more than the QFR. Not sure if that's what will be going on but that's one of the big things I like about the Filco. The quality of the PCB. The QFR is not a bad board but if I was going to go with one keyboard, Filco would be my choice. Wouldn't mind hearing other opinions though :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:14:48
    Sounds good CPT.  I will take your word for it.  After all you are "Keeper of the Faith". 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:19:37
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:14:48
    Sounds good CPT.  I will take your word for it.  After all you are "Keeper of the Faith". 

    Faith in that context refers to facts and knowledge. I gave you a biased opinion, which is not fact or knowledge! :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:24:04
    Said biased opinion is still based on fact and experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:26:54
    I currently own four Filco TKLs and one Filco 104.

    I own one QFR (that I bought as a bare PCB).

    I keep buying Filcos, when the QFR is obviously available, and I have experience with both. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:35:07
    Either way I just bit the bullet on 2 keyboards both for gifts.  That makes 3 that I will be giving this season

    1.  this beauty (http://pckeyboard.com/page/Classic/UB4044A) for my uncle with the in Style 2 all gray (http://pckeyboard.com/page/SBLE/GHFunKey)
    2.  This subtle beast (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=475&cc=1) for my aunt with a yet to be announced keycap going for the Esc key(hopefully)
    3.  And this slick one (http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Tenkeyless-FKBN87ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3YA0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383669260&sr=8-1&keywords=filco+majestouch+2) for my wife's first mechanical

    Edit:  don't you wish you was on my christmas list.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:40:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:35:07
    don't you wish you was on my christmas list.

    I've been a good boy, I swear. :P

    Very nice keyboards, all!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:41:16
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:40:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:35:07
    don't you wish you was on my christmas list.

    I've been a good boy, I swear. :P

    Very nice keyboards, all!

    Just in action or in mind as well?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:47:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:41:16
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:40:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:35:07
    don't you wish you was on my christmas list.

    I've been a good boy, I swear. :P

    Very nice keyboards, all!

    Just in action or in mind as well?

    My mind is pure, sir!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:49:55
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:47:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:41:16
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:40:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:35:07
    don't you wish you was on my christmas list.

    I've been a good boy, I swear. :P

    Very nice keyboards, all!

    Just in action or in mind as well?

    My mind is pure, sir!

    lol you have had a registered account since spring of 12.  I have been here less than a year.  I should be on yours.  I wish I had something to give away to some random peeps but just don't have anything that isn't either tied up in my project or not sure if it is going to make it to my project.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:50:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:19:37
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 10:14:48
    Sounds good CPT.  I will take your word for it.  After all you are "Keeper of the Faith". 

    Faith in that context refers to facts and knowledge. I gave you a biased opinion, which is not fact or knowledge! :P

    Your biased opinion is often dropping knowledge, so don't sell yourself short...  :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:00:36
    I was at least nice enough to order a wire cap puller to send with my aunt and uncles keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:19:59
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    because you not one with the CC
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:25:17
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    The Clack God did not smile on you today.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:31:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:19:59
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    because you not one with the CC

    Dat keycap in your avatar lol. That keycap in China is CC on GH.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:33:04
    I got that cap from Bim Gao.  I am using it as my Esc Key for obvious reasons and have my HDD LED behind it.  Link to build log is in my signature.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:34:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:25:17
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    The Clack God did not smile on you today.

    Line 584 in Bible of Clack reads, "Blessed are all those who put their faith in Clack God. Those are the only ones to be able to touch CC in their life."
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:36:48
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0)

    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:31:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:19:59
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    because you not one with the CC

    Dat keycap in your avatar lol. That keycap in China is CC on GH.

    You mean like these?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:37:14
    Ok enough about the EK sale please.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:38:05
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:36:48
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0)

    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:31:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:19:59
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    because you not one with the CC

    Dat keycap in your avatar lol. That keycap in China is CC on GH.

    You mean like these?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743)

    Why you gotta do that to the poor guy?  Thats like rolling up to a homeless guy in your limo, rolling down the window and asking him if he has change for $100.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:44:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:38:05
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:36:48
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0)

    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:31:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:19:59
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    because you not one with the CC

    Dat keycap in your avatar lol. That keycap in China is CC on GH.

    You mean like these?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743)

    Why you gotta do that to the poor guy?  Thats like rolling up to a homeless guy in your limo, rolling down the window and asking him if he has change for $100.

    He mentioned your avatar being like CC's in china and I was asking if those keycaps like feng is making is what he meant.

    On topic: Does anyone know of any other key caps that have found such fame around the world?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:48:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:44:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:38:05
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:36:48
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0)

    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:31:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:19:59
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    because you not one with the CC

    Dat keycap in your avatar lol. That keycap in China is CC on GH.

    You mean like these?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743)

    Why you gotta do that to the poor guy?  Thats like rolling up to a homeless guy in your limo, rolling down the window and asking him if he has change for $100.

    He mentioned your avatar being like CC's in china and I was asking if those keycaps like feng is making is what he meant.

    On topic: Does anyone know of any other key caps that have found such fame around the world?

    I see.. By CC in China, I mean the price, the fame and the popularity.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:50:08
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:44:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:38:05
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:36:48
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0)

    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:31:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:19:59
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    because you not one with the CC

    Dat keycap in your avatar lol. That keycap in China is CC on GH.

    You mean like these?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743)

    Why you gotta do that to the poor guy?  Thats like rolling up to a homeless guy in your limo, rolling down the window and asking him if he has change for $100.

    He mentioned your avatar being like CC's in china and I was asking if those keycaps like feng is making is what he meant.

    On topic: Does anyone know of any other key caps that have found such fame around the world?
    $250 Red Cherry Esc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:51:17
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:50:08
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:44:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:38:05
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:36:48
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0)

    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:31:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:19:59
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:13:52
    Someone tell me! Why I No CC!! Any way to hack EK to get a CC?! T T

    because you not one with the CC

    Dat keycap in your avatar lol. That keycap in China is CC on GH.

    You mean like these?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49542.msg1102743#msg1102743)

    Why you gotta do that to the poor guy?  Thats like rolling up to a homeless guy in your limo, rolling down the window and asking him if he has change for $100.

    He mentioned your avatar being like CC's in china and I was asking if those keycaps like feng is making is what he meant.

    On topic: Does anyone know of any other key caps that have found such fame around the world?
    $250 Red Cherry Esc
    But only the orignals which were only made in 2 very limited edition runs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:53:21
    This thread is deteriorating quickly.

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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:54:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:51:17
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:50:08
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:44:41
    On topic: Does anyone know of any other key caps that have found such fame around the world?
    $250 Red Cherry Esc
    But only the orignals which were only made in 2 very limited edition runs.

    Have links for the two GBs you mentioned? I never heard that before.

    Other than that, please stop the Clack/rare cap discussion stuff here. Not the thread for this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 12:04:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:54:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:51:17
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:50:08
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 11:44:41
    On topic: Does anyone know of any other key caps that have found such fame around the world?
    $250 Red Cherry Esc
    But only the orignals which were only made in 2 very limited edition runs.

    Have links for the two GBs you mentioned? I never heard that before.

    Other than that, please stop the Clack/rare cap discussion stuff here. Not the thread for this.

    The orignals were not group buys but done by Cherry before they sold their tooling.   This (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36546.msg687916#msg687916) was where I was getting that info.  And as we know Ivan is the master when it comes to this totally obscure info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 05 November 2013, 13:23:28
    The Cherry Red Esc's came off the wNv Raptor keyboards.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=8491.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 14:27:01
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:13:59
    Was you able to get that measurement for me cpt?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:56:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:33:53
    Anyone know the distance from the plate to the bottom of the cap using DCS caps?

    If you don't get an answer, I'll take this measurement for you later.

    Distance from plate to bottom of the cap is .360" for Cherry/GMK caps.
    Distance from plate to bottom of the cap is .380" for DCS caps.

    Measurement taken on my Epsilon from top of the plate to bottom of the cap on the lip that faces closest to the typist.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 15:22:44
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 05 November 2013, 13:23:28
    The Cherry Red Esc's came off the wNv Raptor keyboards.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=8491.0

    Yup I guess that was one of two sources.  With the other run being about the same size of production numbers.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 November 2013, 14:27:01
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 05 November 2013, 06:13:59
    Was you able to get that measurement for me cpt?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:56:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 11:33:53
    Anyone know the distance from the plate to the bottom of the cap using DCS caps?

    If you don't get an answer, I'll take this measurement for you later.

    Distance from plate to bottom of the cap is .360" for Cherry/GMK caps.
    Distance from plate to bottom of the cap is .380" for DCS caps.

    Measurement taken on my Epsilon from top of the plate to bottom of the cap on the lip that faces closest to the typist.


    Thanks CPTBadass
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: attackcow on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:35:10
    Hey!
    I've got a KBT Pure that uses a mini USB cable to connect it to the computer. I was wondering if I would be able to use a retractable mini USB cable to connect it to the computer. The only reason why I'm asking is because all the eBay listings say that they're all for charging and I don't know if that means it won't work with the keyboard.

    An example of what I'm looking at are these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Retractable-USB-2-0-A-to-Mini-USB-B-Only-Charge-Cable-for-Camera-MP3-4-PDAs-/190813377043?pt=AU_Television_Accessories&hash=item2c6d5d1213

    The cable I'm using now is quite thick and can get quite cumbersome at times (I move my keyboard around for extra space for writing).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:37:45
    Quote from: attackcow on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:35:10
    Hey!
    I've got a KBT Pure that uses a mini USB cable to connect it to the computer. I was wondering if I would be able to use a retractable mini USB cable to connect it to the computer. The only reason why I'm asking is because all the eBay listings say that they're all for charging and I don't know if that means it won't work with the keyboard.

    An example of what I'm looking at are these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Retractable-USB-2-0-A-to-Mini-USB-B-Only-Charge-Cable-for-Camera-MP3-4-PDAs-/190813377043?pt=AU_Television_Accessories&hash=item2c6d5d1213

    Should work fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: attackcow on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:39:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:37:45
    Quote from: attackcow on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:35:10
    Hey!
    I've got a KBT Pure that uses a mini USB cable to connect it to the computer. I was wondering if I would be able to use a retractable mini USB cable to connect it to the computer. The only reason why I'm asking is because all the eBay listings say that they're all for charging and I don't know if that means it won't work with the keyboard.

    An example of what I'm looking at are these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Retractable-USB-2-0-A-to-Mini-USB-B-Only-Charge-Cable-for-Camera-MP3-4-PDAs-/190813377043?pt=AU_Television_Accessories&hash=item2c6d5d1213

    Should work fine.

    Wonderful. Thanks! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:41:06
    That cable says "only charge" so it shouldn't work imo? Sounds like it just has VBUS and GND connected.

    Edit: looking at the picture, that cable also seems too small for 4/5 inner cables.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:44:59
    I could totally be wrong. Never seen just a charging cable like that. But I think you're right BlueBär
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: attackcow on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:45:21
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:41:06
    That cable says "only charge" so it shouldn't work imo? Sounds like it just has VBUS and GND connected.

    Edit: looking at the picture, that cable also seems too small for 4/5 inner cables.

    Oh... would there be anything like the retractable cable that would work with the KBT Pure? Could you explain the VBUS and GND thing too? Curious as to what those are haha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:46:37
    Quote from: attackcow on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:45:21
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:41:06
    That cable says "only charge" so it shouldn't work imo? Sounds like it just has VBUS and GND connected.

    Edit: looking at the picture, that cable also seems too small for 4/5 inner cables.

    Oh... would there be anything like the retractable cable that would work with the KBT Pure? Could you explain the VBUS and GND thing too? Curious as to what those are haha.

    I see those cables all the time at Walmart, etc. They are made by Targus, Belkin, others. Should be easy to find.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:49:07
    Quote from: attackcow on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:45:21
    Would there be anything like the retractable cable that would work with the KBT Pure?

    Could you explain the VBUS and GND thing too? Curious as to what those are haha.

    Now that I think about it and look at nubbinator's custom cable creation guide (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44924.0), I think the cable thickness has to be there so there's all the proper connections. I'm not sure about the retractable cable thing. You could custom order a shorter length cable if that helps.

    See jdcarpe's post above me. Sniper...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 06 November 2013, 11:40:39
    Quote from: attackcow on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:45:21
    Could you explain the VBUS and GND thing too?

    Basically the + and - pins of USB that deliver 5V to whatever is attached. The other pins are for data transfer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:47:34
    Quote from: attackcow on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:45:21
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 06 November 2013, 08:41:06
    That cable says "only charge" so it shouldn't work imo? Sounds like it just has VBUS and GND connected.

    Edit: looking at the picture, that cable also seems too small for 4/5 inner cables.

    Oh... would there be anything like the retractable cable that would work with the KBT Pure? Could you explain the VBUS and GND thing too? Curious as to what those are haha.
    They make retractable USB cables that carry power and data (though many are power only for charging). My friend is a big fan of them. Keep in mind the superthin cables are more prone to breakage though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:51:51
    Where can I get the go-to LEDs for keyboard modding?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: genkidama on Thu, 07 November 2013, 04:21:03
    Yesterday I recieved my new Shine 3 with brown switches :) I am really happy about this mech, but I experience some strange sound noise while typing.
    So this question mostly goes out to ducky owners, as I think this maybe a ducky related thing.

    Yesterday I've experience a metal-ish sound or reverberation after I bottom out on the keys. I tested this on a lot of the keys and the sound is present. I can hear the sound even when I just "tickle" the keys although it's considerably quieter, but still it's there.

    What I've tried so far: (I'm using the stock keycaps which are delivered with the keyboard)
    - Putting a mat underneath the mech but the sound is still present although it's a little dampened.
    - I pulled one of the keycaps and wanted to look at the switch. When I press down the switch I the sound is much quieter but still there (tested this just now) and with the keycaps on it seems the sound gets louder.

    I heard of modding the mech with some kind of foam putting it in between PCB and case from BlueBär. I guess this is my next step and try this.

    Here is a sound example: (I'm not really pressing that hard bottoming out)
    http://www46.zippyshare.com/v/12537360/file.html

    Hopefully someone knows this and can calm me down that this can be easily fixed.

    P.S.: For the first few hours of typing and enjoying my new mech I didn't experience anything like that metal-ish sound while typing. I recieved her in the morning and the metal-ish sound came in the evening and I didn't eat near her or spilled anything and if I did I used the plastic cover to protect it from the food and drops of water.

    Somehow this makes me crazy  :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 07 November 2013, 05:33:08
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:51:51
    Where can I get the go-to LEDs for keyboard modding?

    Ebay, look for 2x3x4mm rectangular LEDs, they work very well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 06:29:23
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:51:51
    Where can I get the go-to LEDs for keyboard modding?

    In the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Permeability on Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:49:19
    Does anyone know if the LED color changers(http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49704.0)  work with the 2x3x4 LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:52:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 07 November 2013, 05:33:08
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 00:51:51
    Where can I get the go-to LEDs for keyboard modding?

    Ebay, look for 2x3x4mm rectangular LEDs, they work very well.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:15:16
    Quote from: Permeability on Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:49:19
    Does anyone know if the LED color changers(http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49704.0)  work with the 2x3x4 LEDs?

    They should work since they are not as high as normal 3mm LEDs and generally smaller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kgrad5 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:25:48
    Where would I find that sheet with the keycaps on it that people place their actual keycaps on when they take pictures of them? I assume it is on this site somewhere but I haven't found it yet and I don't really know how to search for it.

    Thanks kindly!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:28:01
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:25:48
    Where would I find that sheet with the keycaps on it that people place their actual keycaps on when they take pictures of them? I assume it is on this site somewhere but I haven't found it yet and I don't really know how to search for it.

    Thanks kindly!

    Check the OP I believe captn put a link there if not shoot me a pm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kgrad5 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:37:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:28:01
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:25:48
    Where would I find that sheet with the keycaps on it that people place their actual keycaps on when they take pictures of them? I assume it is on this site somewhere but I haven't found it yet and I don't really know how to search for it.

    Thanks kindly!

    Check the OP I believe captn put a link there if not shoot me a pm.

    It is there, number 33! Thanks! I only saw the keyboard generator ones when I went through that list before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:40:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:28:01
    Check the OP I believe captn put a link there if not shoot me a pm.

    I'm going to cal him Cap'n from now on. Like the Crunch. You can thank Ray for that one, Cap'n.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:36:27
    Are there any 75% boards with 1.5x mods that aren't a custom?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:39:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:40:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:28:01
    Check the OP I believe captn put a link there if not shoot me a pm.

    I'm going to cal him Cap'n from now on. Like the Crunch. You can thank Ray for that one, Cap'n.

    I've got so many nicknames now. I've even responded to ******* on occasion :P. My favorite is still CPTDatAss though :D.

    Quote from: digi on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:36:27
    Are there any 75% boards with 1.5x mods that aren't a custom?

    Don't think so. Noppoo Choc Mini and one of the Keycools are the only stock 75% boards I can think of and they have 1.25x mods I believe.

    Quote from: kgrad5 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:37:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:28:01
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:25:48
    Where would I find that sheet with the keycaps on it that people place their actual keycaps on when they take pictures of them? I assume it is on this site somewhere but I haven't found it yet and I don't really know how to search for it.

    Thanks kindly!

    Check the OP I believe captn put a link there if not shoot me a pm.

    It is there, number 33! Thanks! I only saw the keyboard generator ones when I went through that list before.

    The OP is constantly being updated, I just don't announce it. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:40:31
    Quote from: digi on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:36:27
    Are there any 75% boards with 1.5x mods that aren't a custom?

    I believe the Noppoo Choc Mini 84 has 1.5x mods, not 1.25x.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:41:17
    Quote from: digi on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:36:27
    Are there any 75% boards with 1.5x mods that aren't a custom?
    However there is a group buy starting right now for a 75% PCB and case, if you don't want to assemble then I'm sure you could find somebody to do it for you.  It comes out to about $155 for PCB + plate + case which is relatively cheap compared to other customs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:44:02
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:40:31
    Quote from: digi on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:36:27
    Are there any 75% boards with 1.5x mods that aren't a custom?

    I believe the Noppoo Choc Mini 84 has 1.5x mods, not 1.25x.

    (http://i.imgur.com/KP2HS.jpg)
    Image borrowed from Neogaf

    Yes you're right nubbinator. I stand corrected.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:50:16
    That right Alt tho :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:04:57
    What is this wizardry?

    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:09:38
    Did they change the layouts between the 2012 and 2013 Editions of the Choc Mini? NOPPOO Y U DO DIS 2 ME, Making us all confused and shiz.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:11:58
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:04:57
    What is this wizardry?

    Show Image
    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg)


    (http://i.imgur.com/UgFC7Rw.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:12:07
    Show Image
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:04:57
    What is this wizardry?

    (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg)

    perhaps their designers have been browsing geekhack, isn't that very close to the epsilon layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:17:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:09:38
    Did they change the layouts between the 2012 and 2013 Editions of the Choc Mini? NOPPOO Y U DO DIS 2 ME, Making us all confused and shiz.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:04:57
    What is this wizardry?

    Show Image
    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg)


    Yes, this is the case. 2013 Noppoo Choc Mini 84 has changed to 1.25x mods as pointed out by Surnia's review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43054.0). Compare this to the 2012 Noppoo Choc Mini 84 Codehead has in his review (http://deskthority.net/news-reviews-f4/a-keyboard-love-story-iv-noppoo-choc-mini-black-pom-t2962.html) which has the 1.5x mods.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 07 November 2013, 14:57:15
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:12:07
    Show Image
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:04:57
    What is this wizardry?

    (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg)

    perhaps their designers have been browsing geekhack, isn't that very close to the epsilon layout?
    Or MX-Mini for that case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:15:42
    Super noob question here. Can you freely install switches backwards so that the LED is top facing? Or does the PCB also have to be "backwards"?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:18:42
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:15:42
    Super noob question here. Can you freely install switches backwards so that the LED is top facing? Or does the PCB also have to be "backwards"?

    PCB needs to have the holes/traces setup to accept the LEDs. Can't just flip em at will. PCB will determine LED location.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:20:30
    Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:13:01
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:15:42
    Super noob question here. Can you freely install switches backwards so that the LED is top facing? Or does the PCB also have to be "backwards"?

    You could but it would take a TON of work.  If you want to do this my suggestion would be to cut a large hole in the PCB where all the switches go and hand wire the switches back to what is left of the PCB.  Of course this would only be feasible on a plate mount board. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:33:00
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:04:57
    What is this wizardry?

    Show Image
    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg)


    That is pretty close to a perfect layout IMO.  You get everything you get from a 104 layout, but in a 75% layout.  Thats a 6x spacebar right?  Can it be easily replaced?  Shouldn't be too hard to get replacement keycaps for this (other than maybe right shift)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:53:50
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:33:00
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:04:57
    What is this wizardry?

    Show Image
    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg)


    That is pretty close to a perfect layout IMO.  You get everything you get from a 104 layout, but in a 75% layout.  Thats a 6x spacebar right?  Can it be easily replaced?  Shouldn't be too hard to get replacement keycaps for this (other than maybe right shift)?

    6x spacebars can be found on some Cherry keyboards I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ithinkimkorean on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:16:46
    Does the post office give me the bubbley envelope when I send keycaps? Do they print out the sticker on front for me? I never sent anything in the post before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:17:27
    Can costar stabs be swapped into a board that has plate mount cherry stabs?

    Also does the filco maj2 come with cherry or costar?

    I would assume that if the stabs will swap that it will require full desoldering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:19:29
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:16:46
    Does the post office give me the bubbley envelope when I send keycaps? Do they print out the sticker on front for me? I never sent anything in the post before.

    I think you can buy a bubble mailer, I do not think they will give you one. And yes they can print the postage for you. Or you can save a few dollars and do it at home.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:20:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:17:27
    Can costar stabs be swapped into a board that has plate mount cherry stabs?

    Also does the filco maj2 come with cherry or costar?

    I would assume that if the stabs will swap that it will require full desoldering?

    MJ2 has costar stabs. I don't know about the swapping.

    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:16:46
    Does the post office give me the bubbley envelope when I send keycaps? Do they print out the sticker on front for me? I never sent anything in the post before.

    You have to buy the envelope yourself, but they're not that expensive. I buy mine for $.89
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:21:18
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:33:00
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 November 2013, 12:04:57
    What is this wizardry?

    Show Image
    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8384026044_58a87e5e1c_o.jpg)


    That is pretty close to a perfect layout IMO.  You get everything you get from a 104 layout, but in a 75% layout.  Thats a 6x spacebar right?  Can it be easily replaced?  Shouldn't be too hard to get replacement keycaps for this (other than maybe right shift)?
    Looks to be a 5.5x spacebar, not 6x.

    Top row : 16(1x)
    Bottom row : 6(1.25x) + 3(1x) + spacebar
    -> 7.5+3+spacebar
    ->10.5+spacebar
    ->10.5+5.5
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ithinkimkorean on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:21:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:19:29
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:16:46
    Does the post office give me the bubbley envelope when I send keycaps? Do they print out the sticker on front for me? I never sent anything in the post before.

    I think you can buy a bubble mailer, I do not think they will give you one. And yes they can print the postage for you. Or you can save a few dollars and do it at home.

    Cool thanks. I'm weird and get nervous if it is my first time doing anything. Even if it is simple.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:21:38
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:16:46
    Does the post office give me the bubbley envelope when I send keycaps? Do they print out the sticker on front for me? I never sent anything in the post before.

    You buy the packaging and then go up to the guy and he will stamp it and you pay him.
    Most post offices have bubble envelopes to buy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:23:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:17:27
    Can costar stabs be swapped into a board that has plate mount cherry stabs?

    Also does the filco maj2 come with cherry or costar?

    I would assume that if the stabs will swap that it will require full desoldering?

    Filco comes with costar stab.

    I think Ducky and Filco are very similar structure wise and Ducky have cherry stab so I guess there is a way to swap the stab. Why do you want to swap them though?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:28:25
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:20:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:17:27
    Can costar stabs be swapped into a board that has plate mount cherry stabs?

    Also does the filco maj2 come with cherry or costar?

    I would assume that if the stabs will swap that it will require full desoldering?

    MJ2 has costar stabs. I don't know about the swapping.

    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:16:46
    Does the post office give me the bubbley envelope when I send keycaps? Do they print out the sticker on front for me? I never sent anything in the post before.

    You have to buy the envelope yourself, but they're not that expensive. I buy mine for $.89

    Thanks for the info.  I had the wife try the ducky I bought my aunt and she does not like cherry stabs.

    Funny not I had her try the flipped space bar.  She set her hands on the keys, typed a word, hit the space bar.  She then jerked her hands up to her chest and let out a not that quiet "EWWW".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:29:16
    Costar and cherry stabs are typically not swappable from my experience.  Depends on the plate.  Most Korean customs only support Cherry PCB mounted stabs, GH60 can support either, or only Cherry depending on which plate you use.  If I recall correctly Costar stabs don't work with LED's
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:30:27
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:17:27
    1) Can costar stabs be swapped into a board that has plate mount cherry stabs?

    2) Also does the filco maj2 come with cherry or costar?

    1) Holes aren't the same shape (I think) or spacing. When I asked the same question to WFD about modding my FC700R, he showed this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41048.msg818820#msg818820).

    2) Costar. That's what I have at work.

    Wow, you all are snipers. Sniper no sniping!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 07 November 2013, 17:56:35
    Thanks again guys I was wondering about the stab swapping in case the filco I ordered for the wife had cherry stabs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Thu, 07 November 2013, 20:37:48
    I recently rebuilt my filco, and was considering to swap in plate mounted cherry stabs instead of going with costar stabs. I can confirm that the stock won't take cherry stabs at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:49:25
    I'm very tempted to join in on Sprit's 75% GB atm but my question is do I need to solder in diodes and a teensy thingy?

    This would be my first project board and I'm a soldering nub, I've only soldered a few Alps switches before, lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:51:34
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:49:25
    I'm very tempted to join in on Sprit's 75% GB atm but my question is do I need to solder in diodes and a teensy thingy?

    Honestly don't know. Ask Sprit in his thread. His PCB has an ATMega 32AU controller (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49902.0) so no need for a Teensy. I think you might need diodes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:52:56
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:49:25
    I'm very tempted to join in on Sprit's 75% GB atm but my question is do I need to solder in diodes and a teensy thingy?

    This would be my first project board and I'm a soldering nub, I've only soldered a few Alps switches before, lol.
    no, you don't
    all the pcbs that sprit is offering are presoldered (you only need to solder the switches)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:53:53
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:52:56
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:49:25
    I'm very tempted to join in on Sprit's 75% GB atm but my question is do I need to solder in diodes and a teensy thingy?

    This would be my first project board and I'm a soldering nub, I've only soldered a few Alps switches before, lol.
    no, you don't
    all the pcbs that sprit is offering are presoldered (you only need to solder the switches)

    Sold, thanks Photekq, where is everyone getting their switches from?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:55:04
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:53:53
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:52:56
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:49:25
    I'm very tempted to join in on Sprit's 75% GB atm but my question is do I need to solder in diodes and a teensy thingy?

    This would be my first project board and I'm a soldering nub, I've only soldered a few Alps switches before, lol.
    no, you don't
    all the pcbs that sprit is offering are presoldered (you only need to solder the switches)

    Sold, thanks Photekq, where is everyone getting their switches from?


    Where are you getting this info from Photekq? Link please. Switches can be found in the classifieds, MK.com, Mouser, and other online electrical components places. There's a list of part numbers in the OP you can use to search for switches if you're not looking in the Classifieds or from 7bit on DT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:56:04
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:53:53
    Sold, thanks Photekq, where is everyone getting their switches from?
    originative has blues, browns, blacks. mechanicalkeyboards has clears.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:55:04
    Where are you getting this info from Photekq? Link please. Switches can be found in the classifieds, MK.com, Mouser, and other online electrical components places. There's a list of part numbers in the OP you can use to search for switches if you're not looking in the Classifieds or from 7bit on DT.
    from here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.msg1105479#msg1105479), sir.
    Quote
    *All PCBs are  1.6T Thick PCB, ANSI+ISO, All and All ! SMDs are Factory pre-soldered


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:58:19
    I was hesitant to post these questions in his GB since they're nubbish questions, thanks capt & photekq.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 13:17:27
    What are the stabilizers called that are in the old Cherry G80 (dolch pac) keyboards called? Also, can those be installed on the 75% pcb I'm getting from Sprit's GB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 08 November 2013, 13:24:12
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 13:17:27
    What are the stabilizers called that are in the old Cherry G80 (dolch pac) keyboards called? Also, can those be installed on the 75% pcb I'm getting from Sprit's GB?
    Cherry PCB mount. The MX-MiniU does support them, so I am guessing the MX-MiniW will too (the one sprit will be selling)

    You should probably ask sprit himself for confirmation :) drop him a pm or post in the thread
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 08 November 2013, 15:12:20
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 08 November 2013, 13:24:12
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 08 November 2013, 13:17:27
    What are the stabilizers called that are in the old Cherry G80 (dolch pac) keyboards called? Also, can those be installed on the 75% pcb I'm getting from Sprit's GB?
    Cherry PCB mount. The MX-MiniU does support them, so I am guessing the MX-MiniW will too (the one sprit will be selling)

    You should probably ask sprit himself for confirmation :) drop him a pm or post in the thread
    It does, actually that is the only supported stabilizer similar to most other Korean customs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:11:54
    A couple questions...

    1) Is it possible to get a drop in replacement controller for my Filco MJ2 TKL to make it programmable?
    I have heard of controllers like the 'HID Liberation Device' and 'Pegasus Hoof', but I don't know if either of those are drop in replacements for the filco controller, or how to go about trying to find one if it is.  Does anyone know how I would go about getting a replacement controller for my Filco TKL to make programmable?

    2) I know that my Filco has plate mounted switches.  I also know that the filco plate does not have the cutouts that make switch top removal possible without desoldering.  Is there a plate available that I can buy somewhere that will fit my filco tkl that has the cutouts?  Will a Phantom plate work on a Filco?  Was there more than one Phantom plate designed and made?  I saw The_Beast mention in his WTS thread that his Phantom plate has ears.  If the ears do not fit in a filco, can I just use a grinder and remove them?

    If I am going to mod my Filco to change the plate so I can easily change switches without desoldering and potentially change the controller so I can make it programmable, is there anything else I need to know?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:13:36
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:11:54
    A couple questions...

    1) Is it possible to get a drop in replacement controller for my Filco MJ2 TKL to make it programmable?
    I have heard of controllers like the 'HID Liberation Device' and 'Pegasus Hoof', but I don't know if either of those are drop in replacements for the filco controller, or how to go about trying to find one if it is.  Does anyone know how I would go about getting a replacement controller for my Filco TKL to make programmable?

    2) I know that my Filco has plate mounted switches.  I also know that the filco plate does not have the cutouts that make switch top removal possible without desoldering.  Is there a plate available that I can buy somewhere that will fit my filco tkl that has the cutouts?  Will a Phantom plate work on a Filco?  Was there more than one Phantom plate designed and made?  I saw The_Beast mention in his WTS thread that his Phantom plate has ears.  If the ears do not fit in a filco, can I just use a grinder and remove them?

    If I am going to mod my Filco to change the plate so I can easily change switches without desoldering and potentially change the controller so I can make it programmable, is there anything else I need to know?
    I don't know about the first question so I will answer your second question, Phantom plates will fit in your Filco.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:37:05
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:11:54
    A couple questions...

    1) Is it possible to get a drop in replacement controller for my Filco MJ2 TKL to make it programmable?

    2) Will a Phantom plate work on a Filco? 

    3) Was there more than one Phantom plate designed and made? 

    4) I saw The_Beast mention in his WTS thread that his Phantom plate has ears.  If the ears do not fit in a filco, can I just use a grinder and remove them?

    5) If I am going to mod my Filco to change the plate so I can easily change switches without desoldering and potentially change the controller so I can make it programmable, is there anything else I need to know?

    1) Yes, you'll need an HID Liberation Controller (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35065.0). Think you need to hunt the Classifieds for this one. bpiphany has other controllers for a QFR, Rosewill, and Full Size Filco (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39146.msg1106145#msg1106145) which are for sale here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46700.msg1083984#msg1083984).

    2) Yes, MKULTRA is correct.

    3) Yes, think we're up to Round 2 of the plates right now. I can't find the links though.

    4) Seems like it should be fine, see the discussion here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1008700#msg1008700)

    5) Be careful :P. Seriously, I don't think there's any thing too crazy you need to know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:31:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:37:05
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:11:54
    A couple questions...

    1) Is it possible to get a drop in replacement controller for my Filco MJ2 TKL to make it programmable?

    2) Will a Phantom plate work on a Filco? 

    3) Was there more than one Phantom plate designed and made? 

    4) I saw The_Beast mention in his WTS thread that his Phantom plate has ears.  If the ears do not fit in a filco, can I just use a grinder and remove them?

    5) If I am going to mod my Filco to change the plate so I can easily change switches without desoldering and potentially change the controller so I can make it programmable, is there anything else I need to know?

    1) Yes, you'll need an HID Liberation Controller (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35065.0). Think you need to hunt the Classifieds for this one. bpiphany has other controllers for a QFR, Rosewill, and Full Size Filco (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39146.msg1106145#msg1106145) which are for sale here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46700.msg1083984#msg1083984).

    2) Yes, MKULTRA is correct.

    3) Yes, think we're up to Round 2 of the plates right now. I can't find the links though.

    4) Seems like it should be fine, see the discussion here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1008700#msg1008700)

    5) Be careful :P. Seriously, I don't think there's any thing too crazy you need to know.

    Actually we are up to round three.  Round 1 was aluminum and round 2 plates were stainless
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:38:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:37:05
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 19:11:54
    A couple questions...

    1) Is it possible to get a drop in replacement controller for my Filco MJ2 TKL to make it programmable?

    2) Will a Phantom plate work on a Filco? 

    3) Was there more than one Phantom plate designed and made? 

    4) I saw The_Beast mention in his WTS thread that his Phantom plate has ears.  If the ears do not fit in a filco, can I just use a grinder and remove them?

    5) If I am going to mod my Filco to change the plate so I can easily change switches without desoldering and potentially change the controller so I can make it programmable, is there anything else I need to know?

    1) Yes, you'll need an HID Liberation Controller (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35065.0). Think you need to hunt the Classifieds for this one. bpiphany has other controllers for a QFR, Rosewill, and Full Size Filco (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39146.msg1106145#msg1106145) which are for sale here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46700.msg1083984#msg1083984).

    2) Yes, MKULTRA is correct.

    3) Yes, think we're up to Round 2 of the plates right now. I can't find the links though.

    4) Seems like it should be fine, see the discussion here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1008700#msg1008700)

    5) Be careful :P. Seriously, I don't think there's any thing too crazy you need to know.

    I really appreciate you all taking the time to answer my questions.  Thank you for the links, they were very helpful.

    I was also wondering what the difference was between the 'HID Liberation Device' and the 'Pegasus Hoof' and I found this in one of the threads you linked.

    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 17 October 2013, 16:01:23
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:59:39
    Pegasus Hoof different than HID Liberation Device?

    32U2 instead of 32U4.

    I think I was reading somewhere (probably the Epsilon thread) that the 32U4 was better.  I think it has more memory or something?  I think I read somewhere that some of the firmware only supports one of those.  I think it was jdcarpe who mentioned it and it was probably regarding the TMK firmware.  I will need to do some more research on this.  Looking at one of the screenshots from the keymap tool that came out of the Epsilon project, it appears that his tool supports both, but I will have to confirm that.

    Thanks for getting me going on that...

    @Capt'n: I saw in one of your links that you were planning to attempt to mod your stock filco plate with a dremel to add the cutouts.  Did you end up doing that, and if so, how did it work out?  Anything worth noting?

    Thanks for the help guys.  Im off to do more research...  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:43:56
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:38:20
    I was also wondering what the difference was between the 'HID Liberation Device' and the 'Pegasus Hoof' and I found this in one of the threads you linked.

    HID only works for the Filco TKL boards. Pegasus Hoof only works for the full size Filcos.


    Quote from: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:38:20
    @Capt'n: I saw in one of your links that you were planning to attempt to mod your stock filco plate with a dremel to add the cutouts.  Did you end up doing that, and if so, how did it work out?  Anything worth noting?

    Thanks for the help guys.  Im off to do more research...  :)

    I haven't done it because I've decided I'm keeping my Filco switches stock. Just going to drop in a new controller. Sorry I didn't do anything else. Feel free to ask more questions when you stumble upon things XD.'

    And I'm happy to help, you're welcome!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:49:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:43:56
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:38:20
    I was also wondering what the difference was between the 'HID Liberation Device' and the 'Pegasus Hoof' and I found this in one of the threads you linked.

    HID only works for the Filco TKL boards. Pegasus Hoof only works for the full size Filcos.

    Are you sure?  This post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39146.msg1080897#msg1080897) and this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41390.msg1088138#msg1088138) seem to imply that it works on the Filco TKL.  However, I am not sure which firmwares work with either yet.  Still researching...

    Edit: I wonder if there might be different versions of those controllers with different capabilities.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:52:08
    Oh crap you're right. I didn't realize he released an upgrade. My bad man!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:55:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:52:08
    Oh crap you're right. I didn't realize he released an upgrade. My bad man!

    No worries.  :)  You have been extremely helpful.  You linked a different post in that thread which is what got me to that info to start with.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: neunelfer on Sat, 09 November 2013, 08:07:15
    Does the Geekhackers PS2 to USB converter make keyboards hot-swappable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 November 2013, 08:14:34
    Quote from: neunelfer on Sat, 09 November 2013, 08:07:15
    Does the Geekhackers PS2 to USB converter make keyboards hot-swappable?

    I've only tested it on my SSK so YMMV but it makes my SSK hot-swappable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: neunelfer on Sat, 09 November 2013, 12:30:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 November 2013, 08:14:34
    Quote from: neunelfer on Sat, 09 November 2013, 08:07:15
    Does the Geekhackers PS2 to USB converter make keyboards hot-swappable?

    I've only tested it on my SSK so YMMV but it makes my SSK hot-swappable.

    Cool, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ValerieV on Sat, 09 November 2013, 16:14:21
    Does anyone know if the keyboard rooftops for the ten keyless keyboards fit the CoolerMaster keyboards? Elitekeyboards sells them and i was thinking of picking one up. Thanks.  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:10:51
    Excuse the ignorance but what are these keycaps?

    http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww18/y3ma/2012-08-16111408.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:12:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:10:51
    Excuse the ignorance but what are these keycaps?

    http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww18/y3ma/2012-08-16111408.jpg

    Usually referred to as White on Beige. Can get em off old Cherry boards or new From Originative (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets-1/products/classic-beige).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:13:02
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:10:51
    Excuse the ignorance but what are these keycaps?

    http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww18/y3ma/2012-08-16111408.jpg
    Original Cherry black on beige w/ SP moogle kit... Originative sells a GMK version (exact replica, same moulds) that comes with a GMK moogle kit.

    Beat me to it cpt
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:13:52
    I figured they were cherry. Thanks guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 5traus on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:24:50
    Really dumb question, but i have a kbt race keyboard and i noticed the ece switch on the bottom of the board. What does this switch do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:26:44
    Quote from: 5traus on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:24:50
    Really dumb question, but i have a kbt race keyboard and i noticed the ece switch on the bottom of the board. What does this switch do?

    Good on you for asking.

    I have no idea what it does!

    DON'T FLIP IT WHILE YOUR KEYBOARD IS PLUGGED IN.

    :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:28:23
    Quote from: 5traus on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:24:50
    Really dumb question, but i have a kbt race keyboard and i noticed the ece switch on the bottom of the board. What does this switch do?

    See this picture (http://imgur.com/a/Ah1L8#6). It's dip switches that let you change the functionality of the board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:21:02
    What type of resistors are needed for LEDs with:
    Forward Voltage (V) : 3.0 ~ 3.2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:36:51
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:21:02
    What type of resistors are needed for LEDs with:
    Forward Voltage (V) : 3.0 ~ 3.2

    Assuming 30mA, a 68 Ohm resistor.  If it's 20mA, 120 Ohm.  USB is 5v, so that's the voltage you're dropping down from.

    Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.  Those are the numbers I've worked off of when doing my own non-keyboard LED stuff, so I just calculated it on the voltage USB provides.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:41:05
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:36:51
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:21:02
    What type of resistors are needed for LEDs with:
    Forward Voltage (V) : 3.0 ~ 3.2

    Assuming 30mA, a 68 Ohm resistor.  If it's 20mA, 120 Ohm.  USB is 5v, so that's the voltage you're dropping down from.

    Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.  Those are the numbers I've worked off of when doing my own non-keyboard LED stuff, so I just calculated it on the voltage USB provides.

    This is the link that I bought from.

    For some reason the mA they draw is not listed :S

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Rectangle-White-Water-Clear-LED-Light-Leds-/320999089508?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abd096564&_uhb=1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:44:31
    Those should be 20mA.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:45:49
    Well if you compare with a similar LED such as here:
    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Pink-Water-Clear-LED-Lamp-With-12V-Free-Resistors-234P-td-/390631308376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af370bc58&_uhb=1

    These say they have a current rating of 30mA and I assumed pink and white are on a similar scale.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:51:39
    And white diffused are 20mA (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-2x3x4-mm-Rectangle-White-Diffused-LED-Leds-Lamp-Free-Resistors-/321224385269?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aca7722f5).  They should be 20mA LEDs. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:53:08
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:51:39
    And white diffused are 20mA (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-2x3x4-mm-Rectangle-White-Diffused-LED-Leds-Lamp-Free-Resistors-/321224385269?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aca7722f5).  They should be 20mA LEDs.

    Gonna PM you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:30:56
    How many ohms are the resistors already on the Poker 2 pcb?

    Will they support 20mA and 30mA LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:41:29
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:30:56
    How many ohms are the resistors already on the Poker 2 pcb?

    Will they support 20mA and 30mA LEDs?
    I will have to check, but I think they are 800-1000 ohms or so.

    They will be compatible with 20 mA LEDs as they will limit the current through the LED to 5 mA at the very most. (the value is likely much less.)

    Edit: hmm, WFD's picture (link below) shows either 561 or 195 on the top of the resistor. SMD resistors use a specific code for the value
    http://i.imgur.com/XuFi8So.jpg

    561 would mean 56*10^1 ohms (560 Ohms)and 195 would mean 19*10^5 ohms (1.9 MegaOhms)

    So it looks like they are 560 Ohms.

    That means a
    3.2Vf LED will flow about 3.5 mA (200 mA total)
    1.6Vf LED will flow about 6.5 mA (400 mA total)

    I would recommend higher Vf LEDs (green, white, blue), though if the controller only needs 100 mA to run (entirely possible) then red/orange may work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:42:14
    Quote from: ValerieV on Sat, 09 November 2013, 16:14:21
    Does anyone know if the keyboard rooftops for the ten keyless keyboards fit the CoolerMaster keyboards? Elitekeyboards sells them and i was thinking of picking one up. Thanks.  :D

    Ok I spent a bit of time looking at this but I can't actually figure out what EK is trying to tell me. So I'll leave you some info and hopefully you can figure it out.

    - EK Roof Dimensions (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,roofs&pid=rfmek)
    - QFR dimensions under "Specifications" (http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfirerapid/)
    - Bezel size on the QFR from my own measurements: 4 mm thick above function row, 6mm thick below modifier row, 2 mm thick on the edges.

    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:36:51
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:21:02
    What type of resistors are needed for LEDs with:
    Forward Voltage (V) : 3.0 ~ 3.2

    Assuming 30mA, a 68 Ohm resistor.  If it's 20mA, 120 Ohm.  USB is 5v, so that's the voltage you're dropping down from.

    Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.  Those are the numbers I've worked off of when doing my own non-keyboard LED stuff, so I just calculated it on the voltage USB provides.

    Your math seems fine. nubbinator is just using Ohm's law for those who don't know.

    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:30:56
    How many ohms are the resistors already on the Poker 2 pcb?

    (http://i.imgur.com/XuFi8So.jpg)
    From WFD's Poker 2 review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0)

    The resistors are on the left side next to the reddish SMDs. They say "195" on them so the resistance is 1.9 Ohms. This site (http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/smdcalc.php) explains how to rest the 3 digit resistance code on the surface mount resistors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:48:17
    Thanks for all the info guys but, I am still extremely confused I am seeing a ton of different numbers here.

    Could I use 30mA LEDs for the mods and 20mA LEDs for the rest of the keys on a poker 2 with the default resistors?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:48:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:42:14
    The resistors are on the left side next to the reddish SMDs. They say "195" on them so the resistance is 1.9 Ohms. This site (http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/smdcalc.php) explains how to rest the 3 digit resistance code on the surface mount resistors.

    are you sure they don't say 561 for a resistance of 560 ohms, your 195 is a resistance of 1.9 MEGAohms which seems a bit much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:51:22
    Quote from: kmiller8 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:48:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:42:14
    The resistors are on the left side next to the reddish SMDs. They say "195" on them so the resistance is 1.9 Ohms. This site (http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/smdcalc.php) explains how to rest the 3 digit resistance code on the surface mount resistors.

    are you sure they don't say 561 for a resistance of 560 ohms, your 195 is a resistance of 1.9 MEGAohms which seems a bit much.

    Yeah 560 Ohms makes much more sense. I'm definitely a *mechanical* engineer lol.

    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:48:17
    Thanks for all the info guys but, I am still extremely confused I am seeing a ton of different numbers here.

    Could I use 30mA LEDs for the mods and 20mA LEDs for the rest of the keys on a poker 2 with the default resistors?

    Short answer is I think so. Long answer is, you won't be drawing that much amperage through the LEDs anyways. Probably draw 5mA and peak at 7mA tops. Circuit draws 5V, you can use the resistance Kmiller8 corrected me with and the 5V voltage to figure out how much amperage you'll get and verify my answer with Ohm's law.

    Kmiller8 just gave me a crash course in circuits 101 and I believe he's studying that in school.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:52:13
    I'm resposting part of my edit here
    So it looks like they are 560 Ohms.

    That means a
    3.2Vf LED will flow about 3.5 mA (200 mA total)
    1.6Vf LED will flow about 6.5 mA (400 mA total)

    I would recommend higher Vf LEDs (green, white, blue), though if the controller only needs 100 mA to run (entirely possible) then red/orange may work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:56:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:52:13
    I'm resposting part of my edit here
    So it looks like they are 560 Ohms.

    That means a
    3.2Vf LED will flow about 3.5 mA (200 mA total)
    1.6Vf LED will flow about 6.5 mA (400 mA total)

    I would recommend higher Vf LEDs (green, white, blue), though if the controller only needs 100 mA to run (entirely possible) then red/orange may work.

    Okay so will both of these work?

    White: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Rectangle-White-Water-Clear-LED-Light-Leds-/320999089508?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

    Pink: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Pink-Water-Clear-LED-Lamp-With-12V-Free-Resistors-234P-td-/390631308376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af370bc58

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:56:50
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:56:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:52:13
    I'm resposting part of my edit here
    So it looks like they are 560 Ohms.

    That means a
    3.2Vf LED will flow about 3.5 mA (200 mA total)
    1.6Vf LED will flow about 6.5 mA (400 mA total)

    I would recommend higher Vf LEDs (green, white, blue), though if the controller only needs 100 mA to run (entirely possible) then red/orange may work.

    Okay so will both of these work?

    White: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Rectangle-White-Water-Clear-LED-Light-Leds-/320999089508?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

    Pink: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Pink-Water-Clear-LED-Lamp-With-12V-Free-Resistors-234P-td-/390631308376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af370bc58

    Yes, I used the pink LEDs myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:00:26
    Awesome. Thanks a lot guys. Sorry for all the question I would just rather be safe. I ordered both of those so hopefully they will be fine with my Poker 2.

    Just one more quick question. Can you add LEDs to a QFR assuming you buy your own resistors? Or is it just not possible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:01:45
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:00:26
    Can you add LEDs to a QFR assuming you buy your own resistors? Or is it just not possible.

    I don't think so. The PCB doesn't have the holes or traces for the LEDs. I'm not sure if you could rig it though though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:07:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:01:45
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:00:26
    Can you add LEDs to a QFR assuming you buy your own resistors? Or is it just not possible.

    I don't think so. The PCB doesn't have the holes or traces for the LEDs. I'm not sure if you could rig it though though.

    Yeah I didn't think the pcb supported it. Thanks for everything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:15:18
    How much different are mx blacks w/ 59g or 62g springs than stock mx blacks? I tried mx blacks a long time ago and didn't really like them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:16:11
    Quote from: digi on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:15:18
    How much different are mx blacks w/ 59g or 62g springs than stock mx blacks? I tried mx blacks a long time ago and didn't really like them.

    62g blacks are essentially MX reds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:17:48
    Thanks Comrade, is there anything different internally in the black vs. the reds or is it pretty much just the spring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:18:12
    Quote from: digi on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:15:18
    How much different are mx blacks w/ 59g or 62g springs than stock mx blacks? I tried mx blacks a long time ago and didn't really like them.

    You can find my personal thoughts on spring swaps here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.0). I think that 59g would be too light for me.

    Quote from: digi on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:17:48
    Thanks Comrade, is there anything different internally in the black vs. the reds or is it pretty much just the spring?

    You're correct, it's the spring that's different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:20:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:18:12
    Quote from: digi on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:15:18
    How much different are mx blacks w/ 59g or 62g springs than stock mx blacks? I tried mx blacks a long time ago and didn't really like them.

    You can find my personal thoughts on spring swaps here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.0). I think that 59g would be too light for me.

    Quote from: digi on Sun, 10 November 2013, 12:17:48
    Thanks Comrade, is there anything different internally in the black vs. the reds or is it pretty much just the spring?

    You're correct, it's the spring that's different.


    wow, nice write-up! Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 17:21:30
    Where do you get gold springs from?  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 10 November 2013, 17:36:43
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 17:21:30
    Where do you get gold springs from?  :-[

    I think they came form OTD a while ago. I don't know any vendors that stock any.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JPG on Sun, 10 November 2013, 21:11:44
    Do you need a special pcb for capacitive switches like the model F switches or can you build a regular matrix (or let's say lowpoly method) and use a modern controller with them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 10 November 2013, 21:30:43
    Quote from: JPG on Sun, 10 November 2013, 21:11:44
    Do you need a special pcb for capacitive switches like the model F switches or can you build a regular matrix (or let's say lowpoly method) and use a modern controller with them?

    To my knowledge you do need a special plate.  Plus they are not individual switch modules.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 November 2013, 21:56:44
    Quote from: JPG on Sun, 10 November 2013, 21:11:44
    Do you need a special pcb for capacitive switches like the model F switches or can you build a regular matrix (or let's say lowpoly method) and use a modern controller with them?

    There's also not a controller that works on Model Fs at the moment. If you want to get some insight into how modding a Model F might be like, check out Wcass' XTant project (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/bringing-the-ibm-pc-xt-into-the-21st-century-t3047.html).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 10 November 2013, 23:40:25
    Capacitive controllers are odd things. I think hasu has a replacement hhkb controller? Also, DFJ had posted some details on the current F controller on GH a while ago. Finally, xwhatsit's Beam spring controller is capacitive.

    For all these cases, a normal cherry / alps pcb won't work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 09:55:38
    I just discovered this, maybe you'd want to add it to the OP: http://www.mrinterface.com/

    Some great sims to play with
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 11 November 2013, 11:00:37
    Well I have decided to at least desolder the switches in my Das3.  Going to lube the switches with some lube I got from mkawa.  So I am typing this on the keyboard I bought as a gift.  Just for the record the solder they used in that board is HELL on your tips.  It is a pain to desolder as well.  I had to add solder to every pad just so my radio shack Solda-a-pult look a like would pick it up.  Now for my question.  I bought a Filco Majestouch-2 for my wife and it has blacks but she wanted reds.  I have a set of springs out of browns I could swap in there plus I would then have black springs for either panda clears or ghetto greens.  Is the solder in the Filco just as bad to work with as what is in my Das?  I know the pads on the Filco are through hole similar to the Phantom since both are dual layer PCBs and the Das in only a single layer.

    Plus outside the dual layer holes is there anything else I need to pay attention to when either desoldering or cracking open the Filco?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JayG30 on Mon, 11 November 2013, 12:36:21
    On the Poker II, I think I read a post somewhere that said you can press "FN+spacebar" to lock the FN layer so that the arrow keys are accessible without having to hold the FN key down. Is this true?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bueller on Mon, 11 November 2013, 12:42:07
    Quote from: JayG30 on Mon, 11 November 2013, 12:36:21
    On the Poker II, I think I read a post somewhere that said you can press "FN+spacebar" to lock the FN layer so that the arrow keys are accessible without having to hold the FN key down. Is this true?

    Thanks.

    Sounds about right, the Pure has the same function.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 November 2013, 12:47:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 11 November 2013, 11:00:37
    Is the solder in the Filco just as bad to work with as what is in my Das?  I know the pads on the Filco are through hole similar to the Phantom since both are dual layer PCBs and the Das in only a single layer.

    Plus outside the dual layer holes is there anything else I need to pay attention to when either desoldering or cracking open the Filco?

    I don't know that much about the DAS keyboard so I can't comment on that but Photoelectric has talked about some of her experience here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50769.msg1112539#msg1112539). The Filco also has an integral cable, which is different from many other keyboards that have a detachable cable. That's all I got though. Hopefully someone else can comment too :D.

    Quote from: JayG30 on Mon, 11 November 2013, 12:36:21
    On the Poker II, I think I read a post somewhere that said you can press "FN+spacebar" to lock the FN layer so that the arrow keys are accessible without having to hold the FN key down. Is this true?

    Thanks.

    The manual can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45350.msg948090#msg948090). Looks like if you hit FN+Spacebar, it changes the WASD cluster to arrows. So I would say you're correct.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JayG30 on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:29:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 November 2013, 12:47:32
    The manual can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45350.msg948090#msg948090). Looks like if you hit FN+Spacebar, it changes the WASD cluster to arrows. So I would say you're correct.

    Every time I try to download and open the manual Adobe Reader complains that it "could not open because it is either not a supported file type or because the file is damaged". No idea why this is happening, but that is why I asked.

    Also, is the Poker II still not available in the backlit version yet? Don't see it available anywhere. Have to resort to desoldering and soldering in LED's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:33:28
    Quote from: JayG30 on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:29:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 November 2013, 12:47:32
    The manual can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45350.msg948090#msg948090). Looks like if you hit FN+Spacebar, it changes the WASD cluster to arrows. So I would say you're correct.

    1) Every time I try to download and open the manual Adobe Reader complains that it "could not open because it is either not a supported file type or because the file is damaged". No idea why this is happening, but that is why I asked.

    2) Also, is the Poker II still not available in the backlit version yet? Don't see it available anywhere. Have to resort to desoldering and soldering in LED's.

    1) Does this help?

    (http://i.imgur.com/PNfTcPQ.png)

    2) Not that I've seen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:35:00
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 09:55:38
    I just discovered this, maybe you'd want to add it to the OP: http://www.mrinterface.com/

    Some great sims to play with

    Quoting myself, just in case this got lost.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JayG30 on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:41:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:33:28
    1) Does this help?
    2) Not that I've seen.

    Yes, very helpful, I think I can live with that as a substitute for arrow keys.
    Still not sure how I feel about backlit, kinda wish I could get one already with the LED's.
    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:45:43
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:35:00
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 09:55:38
    I just discovered this, maybe you'd want to add it to the OP: http://www.mrinterface.com/

    Some great sims to play with

    Quoting myself, just in case this got lost.

    What question does this fulfill?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:50:32
    "How do different switches sound?"

    "Do the same switches sound different on different keyboards?"

    "Does the keycap material and construction make a difference to how a keyboard sounds?"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 November 2013, 14:15:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:45:43
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:35:00
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 09:55:38
    I just discovered this, maybe you'd want to add it to the OP: http://www.mrinterface.com/

    Some great sims to play with

    Quoting myself, just in case this got lost.

    What question does this fulfill?

    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 13:50:32
    "How do different switches sound?"

    "Do the same switches sound different on different keyboards?"

    "Does the keycap material and construction make a difference to how a keyboard sounds?"

    Mk, does this look ok to you? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg803569#post_UUU).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Mon, 11 November 2013, 14:19:08
    Looks excellent! Those sims are dope, how a keyboard sounds is very important to me and thus the affinity to it.

    Thanks Cap'n!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 12 November 2013, 01:22:09
    where can i get function row/caps lock keycap that have LED-Window?
    edit: cherry profile
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 12 November 2013, 02:48:54
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 12 November 2013, 01:22:09
    where can i get function row/caps lock keycap that have LED-Window?
    edit: cherry profile

    Classifieds, Ivan also has a GB running right now which includes some, so maybe somebody doesn't need these and would sell them to you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:21:45
    My GMK Dolch set just arrived today from Originative, and everything looks great (except that I'm missing an up arrow, but am following up with sherry on that).   Only question I have is: does anyone know why the spacebar it came with gives a really terribly mushy/crunchy sound when I bottom out with it, like the stabilizer is crunching against something?

    I should mention, I'm using the set on my Filco.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:24:41
    Quote from: goobus on Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:21:45
    My GMK Dolch set just arrived today from Originative, and everything looks great (except that I'm missing an up arrow, but am following up with sherry on that).   Only question I have is: does anyone know why the spacebar it came with gives a really terribly mushy/crunchy sound when I bottom out with it, like the stabilizer is crunching against something?
    What keyboard are you using? :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:28:28
    Haha just edited as you replied :P

    Also I've tried changing the stabilizer wire, the inserts, and everything.  Even other spacebars don't give me this problem!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:31:02
     :)) You most likely have the white stem inserts the wrong way round. The longer side should face the F-row

    edit: darn, you edited again :)) it's quite strange that it's 'crunching'... you could try lubricating the wires with grease, but i'm not sure it'd help..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:28:01
    I think if you had the inserts in upside down it would be stuck in the down position. I've done that a lot on mine.

    I would think it's just a fitment issue with the costar stabilizers. If you don't mind the warranty, take the case off and inspect it closely from the side as you press the spacebar down. Then lube it just to make sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:11:46
    what's the stiffest readily available spring? clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:15:47
    Quote from: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:11:46
    what's the stiffest readily available spring? clears?

    Easily available? Black or Korean weight springs from Sherry in 67g or 80g

    Clears can take some finding. You can also grab 80g springs from Sherry which should work great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1pq on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:16:30
    Does anybody know if the topre caps on EK for red ESC and WASD are of good quality? I'm considering getting some, but I don't want cheap ABS caps :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1pq on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:18:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:15:47
    Quote from: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:11:46
    what's the stiffest readily available spring? clears?

    Easily available? Black or Korean weight springs from Sherry in 67g or 80g

    Clears can take some finding. You can also grab 80g springs from Sherry which should work great.

    According to deskauthority, greens have a heavier actuation force than blacks. Is this just because greens are tactile? Or do they use a different spring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:21:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:15:47
    Quote from: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:11:46
    what's the stiffest readily available spring? clears?

    Easily available? Black or Korean weight springs from Sherry in 67g or 80g

    Clears can take some finding. You can also grab 80g springs from Sherry which should work great.

    already got clear springs thanks to ekw, and got offered some from mk and WFD :D

    just wanted to know which is the heaviest and easiest to get. ill ask sherry for a 80g sample
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:24:54
    Quote from: 1pq on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:18:12
    According to deskauthority, greens have a heavier actuation force than blacks. Is this just because greens are tactile? Or do they use a different spring?

    Yes they have a different spring. And Greens are clicky.

    Quote from: 1pq on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:16:30
    Does anybody know if the topre caps on EK for red ESC and WASD are of good quality? I'm considering getting some, but I don't want cheap ABS caps :P

    tjcaustin and demik both say they're the same caps as you would find on a RealForce.

    Quote from: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:21:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:15:47
    Quote from: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:11:46
    what's the stiffest readily available spring? clears?

    Easily available? Black or Korean weight springs from Sherry in 67g or 80g

    Clears can take some finding. You can also grab 80g springs from Sherry which should work great.

    already got clear springs thanks to ekw, and got offered some from mk and WFD :D

    just wanted to know which is the heaviest and easiest to get. ill ask sherry for a 80g sample

    Sounds good mang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:26:43
    This is probably a stupid question, but why would I get a jumper instead of a diode in a cherry mx switch?  I could not find an answer to this in the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:00:04
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:26:43
    This is probably a stupid question, but why would I get a jumper instead of a diode in a cherry mx switch?  I could not find an answer to this in the OP.
    Depends on the PCB.  I don't know of any newer boards besides maybe some Cherry ones that use in switch diodes.  In switch diodes only support up to 2KRO.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:09:13
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:00:04
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:26:43
    This is probably a stupid question, but why would I get a jumper instead of a diode in a cherry mx switch?  I could not find an answer to this in the OP.
    Depends on the PCB.  I don't know of any newer boards besides maybe some Cherry ones that use in switch diodes.  In switch diodes only support up to 2KRO.

    So with a newer pcb, say something like Sprit's GB, I would not want diodes. In this case would I want jumpers or nothing at all?  If I want nothing at all, are jumpers easier to remove?  Thx...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:11:57
    no no, sprit's pcb will need diodes. either ones you solder in yourself or ones that have been solder in already (which is most likely the case if he uses SMD)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:14:39
    I think it's just the jumpers that limit you to 2NKRO. Inswitch diodes or SMD diodes will give you 6NKRO or NKRO. I'm not 100% though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:16:53
    Quote from: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:11:57
    no no, sprit's pcb will need diodes. either ones you solder in yourself or ones that have been solder in already (which is most likely the case if he uses SMD)

    So if he uses smd, would I want nothing in my switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:17:49
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:16:53
    Quote from: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:11:57
    no no, sprit's pcb will need diodes. either ones you solder in yourself or ones that have been solder in already (which is most likely the case if he uses SMD)

    So if he uses smd, would I want nothing in my switch?

    If he had SMDs pre-soldered on the PCB then you wouldn't need a diode or jumper in your switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:18:29
    exactly, although some diodes (like the normal ones) don't always go inside the switch. sometimes they can be mounted on the bottom side of it or sometimes on the side of the switch. but the PCB has to be specifically made for that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:21:16
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:09:13
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:00:04
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:26:43
    This is probably a stupid question, but why would I get a jumper instead of a diode in a cherry mx switch?  I could not find an answer to this in the OP.
    Depends on the PCB.  I don't know of any newer boards besides maybe some Cherry ones that use in switch diodes.  In switch diodes only support up to 2KRO.

    So with a newer pcb, say something like Sprit's GB, I would not want diodes. In this case would I want jumpers or nothing at all?  If I want nothing at all, are jumpers easier to remove?  Thx...

    for PCB mount switches, the jumper helps to anchor the switch to the PCB. without it, you can lift the front edge a little. Many cherry KB's also used the jumper as an actual jumper, making their PCB design easier for 2KRO PCBs. the Dolch keyboard, for example, roughly 2/3 of the switches' jumpers are legitimately used. The rest only help to anchor the switch.

    For sprit's PCB, I would recommend having either a plate or something in the switch (diode or jumper). Keep in mind that if you use a jumper, you will have to cut / repair traces. You can get by with nothing in the switch (I did this on my ergodox gamepad) but it won't be as secure as it could be. I don't think I'll have any issues, but be careful when pulling keycaps. Not only can the switch open, you can damage it.

    So if you don't plan to use a plate, and the PCB suppors it, in-switch diodes are a good idea. They are also (from what I've found so far) about 10 times cheaper than SMD diodes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:30:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:17:49
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:16:53
    Quote from: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:11:57
    no no, sprit's pcb will need diodes. either ones you solder in yourself or ones that have been solder in already (which is most likely the case if he uses SMD)

    So if he uses smd, would I want nothing in my switch?

    If he had SMDs pre-soldered on the PCB then you wouldn't need a diode or jumper in your switch.

    I think the combination of answers has given me what I am looking for.

    Follow up question. Assuming smds are pre soldered on for the switch. If I wanted to add LEDs to his pcb, there would be separate holes with tracers that the LEDs would go in and I would have to add a resister for the led (assuming the led resister is not already an smd)?

    I saw somewhere that low profile LEDs can sometimes replace the jumper or diode in some switch types. That would not be case here given what we know so far?

    Thx everyone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:31:44
    there should be separate holes for LEDs if they pcb was made for it.  not sure about the resister as i am quite tech stupid
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:36:22
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:30:19
    1) Assuming smds are pre soldered on for the switch. If I wanted to add LEDs to his pcb, there would be separate holes with tracers that the LEDs would go in

    2) I would have to add a resistor for the led (assuming the led resister is not already an smd)?

    3) I saw somewhere that low profile LEDs can sometimes replace the jumper or diode in some switch types. That would not be case here given what we know so far?

    1) Yes, and its "traces". You're building a keyboard not a gun :P
    2) Yes if there is no SMD resistor already on the PCB you'll have to add one. My KMAC and the Orbweaver already had resistors so I didn't have to add them.
    3) No
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:43:29
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:21:16
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:09:13
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:00:04
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:26:43
    This is probably a stupid question, but why would I get a jumper instead of a diode in a cherry mx switch?  I could not find an answer to this in the OP.
    Depends on the PCB.  I don't know of any newer boards besides maybe some Cherry ones that use in switch diodes.  In switch diodes only support up to 2KRO.

    So with a newer pcb, say something like Sprit's GB, I would not want diodes. In this case would I want jumpers or nothing at all?  If I want nothing at all, are jumpers easier to remove?  Thx...

    for PCB mount switches, the jumper helps to anchor the switch to the PCB. without it, you can lift the front edge a little. Many cherry KB's also used the jumper as an actual jumper, making their PCB design easier for 2KRO PCBs. the Dolch keyboard, for example, roughly 2/3 of the switches' jumpers are legitimately used. The rest only help to anchor the switch.

    For sprit's PCB, I would recommend having either a plate or something in the switch (diode or jumper). Keep in mind that if you use a jumper, you will have to cut / repair traces. You can get by with nothing in the switch (I did this on my ergodox gamepad) but it won't be as secure as it could be. I don't think I'll have any issues, but be careful when pulling keycaps. Not only can the switch open, you can damage it.

    So if you don't plan to use a plate, and the PCB suppors it, in-switch diodes are a good idea. They are also (from what I've found so far) about 10 times cheaper than SMD diodes.

    Great, thanks for the additional information.  I was still undecided about the plate, but I was leaning towards it (since it should have cutouts).  It makes a lot of sense that you would want the diode for a PCB mounted switch. 

    One final question to really drive things home for me.  Assuming his PCB has smds (for the diodes) and I want to do a PCB mounted switch.  would I be able to use a switch with a diode and just unsolder the smd?  That would assume that his PCB would support either an in switch diode OR an SMD diode (which I am not sure if we know yet).

    In one of his posts he recommended using PCB mounted switches because he is doing a thicker PCB (1.6 vs 1.2 mm I think).  I kind of assumed that the in switch diode would be possible in order to balance the switch (as you point out).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:44:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:36:22
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:30:19
    1) Assuming smds are pre soldered on for the switch. If I wanted to add LEDs to his pcb, there would be separate holes with tracers that the LEDs would go in

    2) I would have to add a resistor for the led (assuming the led resister is not already an smd)?

    3) I saw somewhere that low profile LEDs can sometimes replace the jumper or diode in some switch types. That would not be case here given what we know so far?

    1) Yes, and its "traces". You're building a keyboard not a gun :P
    2) Yes if there is no SMD resistor already on the PCB you'll have to add one. My KMAC and the Orbweaver already had resistors so I didn't have to add them.
    3) No

    Damn the iPhone and it changing real words for other words...  :)

    Thanks for the answers.  Think I got this now...  :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 12 November 2013, 23:27:07
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:43:29
    One final question to really drive things home for me.  Assuming his PCB has smds (for the diodes) and I want to do a PCB mounted switch.  would I be able to use a switch with a diode and just unsolder the smd?  That would assume that his PCB would support either an in switch diode OR an SMD diode (which I am not sure if we know yet).

    In one of his posts he recommended using PCB mounted switches because he is doing a thicker PCB (1.6 vs 1.2 mm I think).  I kind of assumed that the in switch diode would be possible in order to balance the switch (as you point out).
    Well if the PCB has SMD diodes on it, and you have switches with through hole diodes, you could desolder the SMD and it should work. I think it's not needed, as two diodes in parallel are basically the same as one for this application (they can handle more current but that's not a problem or concern here).

    Most PCB's that support smd diodes support both. The KMAC does, for example.

    Also, I forgot to mention: if you are putting LED's in your switch, they will stabilize it nicely as well as a diode. I am almost positive all sprit's PCB's support LED's (He asked about led resistors earlier, and the mockup / testing ones have leds) so you can just keep the onboard smd diodes, and add leds to the switches. If you don't want your kb backlit, you can turn the leds off using the firmware. I think this is the best solution.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 00:31:57
    Recently, I just purchased a used Cherry G80-11800:
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-11800

    However, I realized that the right shift is 2.0 instead of 1.75 like Cherry G80-1800.

    Indeed, the walk around would be removing stabilizers and replacing with 1.75 shift from tsangan kit but it is still not perfect.

    It would be great if anyone can help me to find RGB set to fit that awkward 2.0 shift
    (it is 2 units wide and has stabilizers)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 13 November 2013, 11:48:45
    yeah it's a little wider, I think cherry did that on all their rackmount-capable keybaord-with-input-device keyboards.

    I don't know of any RGB kits that exist that have that size, but you can get a blank key from SP pretty cheaply, though it won't match the profile. I don't know if GMK does single sales of blanks (or if they even make that size/profile) but you could maybe contact them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 13 November 2013, 13:51:26
    Has anyone every damaged solder pads when desoldering? If you did, how did you fix the problem?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolonelkadat on Wed, 13 November 2013, 14:23:19
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 13 November 2013, 13:51:26
    Has anyone every damaged solder pads when desoldering? If you did, how did you fix the problem?

    If you lift a pad without breaking it, you can usually just put a big glob of solder. and it wont even be noticeable.

    If the pad is removed completely, you will need to scrape some of the solder mask from the trace and solder to that. You will probably need to use a very fine wire to avoid shorting to adjacent traces. I suggest the wire from small electric motors with an acid flux to burn away the enamel coat on the wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 13 November 2013, 16:06:42
    Quote from: kolonelkadat on Wed, 13 November 2013, 14:23:19
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 13 November 2013, 13:51:26
    Has anyone every damaged solder pads when desoldering? If you did, how did you fix the problem?

    If you lift a pad without breaking it, you can usually just put a big glob of solder. and it wont even be noticeable.

    If the pad is removed completely, you will need to scrape some of the solder mask from the trace and solder to that. You will probably need to use a very fine wire to avoid shorting to adjacent traces. I suggest the wire from small electric motors with an acid flux to burn away the enamel coat on the wire.

    Thanks for the quick reply! What happens if half of it is gone? Would I need to do what you recommended?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 13 November 2013, 16:17:48
    The easiest way is to map the traces and bridge the broken pad/trace with a piece of wire. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:24:32
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 13 November 2013, 16:17:48
    The easiest way is to map the traces and bridge the broken pad/trace with a piece of wire. 
    Agreed. This is what I do and it works well. I've found that it's easy to damage pads on a single layer PCB, though the G80-8200 I pulled switches out of earlier today had no damage.

    My poor QFR has had some serious trace repairs and is almost more wire than PCB under there. It still work great, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:42:55
    Does anyone know what the difference between the "limited" and non limited springs from originative are? Thanks guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:47:06
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:42:55
    Does anyone know what the difference between the "limited" and non limited springs from originative are? Thanks guys!

    Limited springs are tested beforehand. I can't find the thing on Originativeco.com that explains it...but that's the gist of the message that was on the site before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:48:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:47:06
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:42:55
    Does anyone know what the difference between the "limited" and non limited springs from originative are? Thanks guys!

    Limited springs are tested beforehand. I can't find the thing on Originativeco.com that explains it...but that's the gist of the message that was on the site before.

    Okay thanks. I couldn't find anything on the site about it. I will go with the limited. Might as well for a $2 difference.  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:48:59
    Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:24:32
    Agreed. This is what I do and it works well. I've found that it's easy to damage pads on a single layer PCB, though the G80-8200 I pulled switches out of earlier today had no damage.

    My poor QFR has had some serious trace repairs and is almost more wire than PCB under there. It still work great, though.

    It's what I had to do in two places on the "broken" RK9000 I got off of someone.  It's so much easier than carefully exposing the trace and hoping you don't lift the trace when you flow solder to it.

    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:42:55
    Does anyone know what the difference between the "limited" and non limited springs from originative are? Thanks guys!

    I believe it's just he can continue to get supplies in some weights while other springs are from limited runs.  I know the awesome 67g springs were a limited run for a Korean GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:50:35
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:48:59
    Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:24:32
    Agreed. This is what I do and it works well. I've found that it's easy to damage pads on a single layer PCB, though the G80-8200 I pulled switches out of earlier today had no damage.

    My poor QFR has had some serious trace repairs and is almost more wire than PCB under there. It still work great, though.

    It's what I had to do in two places on the "broken" RK9000 I got off of someone.  It's so much easier than carefully exposing the trace and hoping you don't lift the trace when you flow solder to it.

    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:42:55
    Does anyone know what the difference between the "limited" and non limited springs from originative are? Thanks guys!

    I believe it's just he can continue to get supplies in some weights while other springs are from limited runs.  I know the awesome 67g springs were a limited run for a Korean GB.

    He just emailed me this:

    There's not much of a huge difference.  I ordered the Limited Springs from a different manufacturer except that they were more tested until it was "perfect" for the users/enthusiasts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 02:23:35
    Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 13 November 2013, 11:48:45
    yeah it's a little wider, I think cherry did that on all their rackmount-capable keybaord-with-input-device keyboards.

    I don't know of any RGB kits that exist that have that size, but you can get a blank key from SP pretty cheaply, though it won't match the profile. I don't know if GMK does single sales of blanks (or if they even make that size/profile) but you could maybe contact them.

    Well noted with thanks.
    I will try to find some blank keys from SP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:45:23
    I'm still a little confused guys. Sheraton is telling me that the 62g limited and 62g normal have different actuation force. Which should I go with for ergo clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:46:21
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:45:23
    I'm still a little confused guys. Sheraton is telling me that the 62g limited and 62g normal have different actuation force. Which should I go with for ergo clears?

    It's all personal preference, get both and see which you like best and then sell the springs you don't need.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:48:19
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:45:23
    I'm still a little confused guys. Sheraton is telling me that the 62g limited and 62g normal have different actuation force. Which should I go with for ergo clears?

    Have you tried stock clears? I like them better than ergos.

    Also, 65g Blacks! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:50:10
    Lubed ergo clears are BUTTER.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:50:49
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:45:23
    I'm still a little confused guys. Sheraton is telling me that the 62g limited and 62g normal have different actuation force. Which should I go with for ergo clears?

    If they have different actuation forces then it means that one of the springs is 62g on the normal Cherry scale and the other is 62g on the Korean scale.

    The normal Cherry scale rates the springs for the actuation point.  So a 62g spring will be 62g at the actuation point and then get heavier as you get to the bottom.

    The Korean scale rates the springs at the bottom out point, so those springs would be 62g at full depression (so less than that at the actuation point). 

    If they are both 62g springs and have different actuation pressures, then the Korean rated springs will be lighter...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:55:14
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:48:19
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:45:23
    I'm still a little confused guys. Sheraton is telling me that the 62g limited and 62g normal have different actuation force. Which should I go with for ergo clears?

    Have you tried stock clears? I like them better than ergos.

    Also, 65g Blacks! :D

    Stock clears FTW!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 10:00:39
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:48:19
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:45:23
    I'm still a little confused guys. Sheraton is telling me that the 62g limited and 62g normal have different actuation force. Which should I go with for ergo clears?

    Have you tried stock clears? I like them better than ergos.

    Also, 65g Blacks! :D

    Nope, never tried clears. I'm gong to be grabbing a pack next month most likely. Is 65g lighter than the stock black?

    Quote from: swill on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:50:49
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:45:23
    I'm still a little confused guys. Sheraton is telling me that the 62g limited and 62g normal have different actuation force. Which should I go with for ergo clears?

    If they have different actuation forces then it means that one of the springs is 62g on the normal Cherry scale and the other is 62g on the Korean scale.

    The normal Cherry scale rates the springs for the actuation point.  So a 62g spring will be 62g at the actuation point and then get heavier as you get to the bottom.

    The Korean scale rates the springs at the bottom out point, so those springs would be 62g at full depression (so less than that at the actuation point). 

    If they are both 62g springs and have different actuation pressures, then the Korean rated springs will be lighter...

    How do you know that? :p Sheraton simply told me that the limited springs were ordered from a different manufacturer and were more "tested until perfect for users/entusiasts," but then proceeded to tell me to try normal 65g springs so I am quite confused.

    I'm trying to figure out which one is closer to the quintessential 62g spring. I would just like to know the difference between the two. Perhaps one is like the golden springs which are actually stiffer? This info is no where.

    I am already having to buy 62g and 65g. I can't buy the "limited" version of each too unfortunately. Has anyone used both the limited and non-limited springs from originative? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 14 November 2013, 10:19:37
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 10:00:39
    I am already having to buy 62g and 65g. I can't buy the "limited" version of each too unfortunately. Has anyone used both the limited and non-limited springs from originative? Thanks!

    I have limited 67g and non-limited 65g and 62g. They feel like they should: 67g>65g>62g. To be honest, I think the "limited" is a bit for marketing purposes (if the limiteds were tested that shouldn't make a huge difference). Both will work well and will be just a tad heavier than the normal Brown/Red/Blue springs, don't worry about it too much. I even doubt you would feel a difference between limited and non-limited. The limited ones are not gold and have the same color as the non-limited ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 10:26:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 14 November 2013, 10:19:37
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 10:00:39
    I am already having to buy 62g and 65g. I can't buy the "limited" version of each too unfortunately. Has anyone used both the limited and non-limited springs from originative? Thanks!

    I have limited 67g and non-limited 65g and 62g. They feel like they should: 67g>65g>62g. To be honest, I think the "limited" is a bit for marketing purposes (if the limiteds were tested that shouldn't make a huge difference). Both will work well and will be just a tad heavier than the normal Brown/Red/Blue springs, don't worry about it too much. I even doubt you would feel a difference between limited and non-limited. The limited ones are not gold and have the same color as the non-limited ones.

    Okay thanks! I thought that maybe the limited were more stiff just like how some people describe 62g gold springs to be closer to 65g or 67g but I guess not :p Thanks again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 14 November 2013, 18:38:47
    Can you tell the difference between diffused or water clear LEDs when installed on a keyboard?  If so, are there advantages to one or the other?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:22:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Yeah it should matter, the direction determines the polarity. One end should have a line, the other end doesn't. The side with the line is positive or the anode on SMD. Check out the picture (Borrowed from Head-Fi) below for some examples Dai Lo.

    Show Image
    (http://cdn.head-fi.org/3/34/34277ff9_Cap-elko-smd-polarity.jpg)



    On PCBs, they often have little diagrams showing you which end is positive. For example, my KMAC has this:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/NS3hU7P.jpg)


    So you just match the lines up.

    And if you have just regular diodes, they'll line up like this (Props to Sifo for the pic):

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hV8DTsi.jpg)


    And I'm linking this picture just for more info on plain/non-SMD diodes. Picture found here (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/diodes.html).

    Show Image
    (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/diode-markings.jpg)


    Reading this, I am slightly confused...  Do regular diodes and SMD diodes have different meanings for the stripe on one side. 

    This specifies that on SMD diodes, the line specifies Positive (+)...
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Yeah it should matter, the direction determines the polarity. One end should have a line, the other end doesn't. The side with the line is positive or the anode on SMD. Check out the picture (Borrowed from Head-Fi) below for some examples Dai Lo.

    Show Image
    (http://cdn.head-fi.org/3/34/34277ff9_Cap-elko-smd-polarity.jpg)


    However, this diagram when referring to through hole diodes specify that the line represents the Negative (-) side.
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Show Image
    (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/diode-markings.jpg)


    Is everything I have said correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:33:26
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:22:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Yeah it should matter, the direction determines the polarity. One end should have a line, the other end doesn't. The side with the line is positive or the anode on SMD. Check out the picture (Borrowed from Head-Fi) below for some examples Dai Lo.

    Show Image
    (http://cdn.head-fi.org/3/34/34277ff9_Cap-elko-smd-polarity.jpg)



    On PCBs, they often have little diagrams showing you which end is positive. For example, my KMAC has this:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/NS3hU7P.jpg)


    So you just match the lines up.

    And if you have just regular diodes, they'll line up like this (Props to Sifo for the pic):

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hV8DTsi.jpg)


    And I'm linking this picture just for more info on plain/non-SMD diodes. Picture found here (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/diodes.html).

    Show Image
    (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/diode-markings.jpg)


    Reading this, I am slightly confused...  Do regular diodes and SMD diodes have different meanings for the stripe on one side. 

    This specifies that on SMD diodes, the line specifies Positive (+)...
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Yeah it should matter, the direction determines the polarity. One end should have a line, the other end doesn't. The side with the line is positive or the anode on SMD. Check out the picture (Borrowed from Head-Fi) below for some examples Dai Lo.

    Show Image
    (http://cdn.head-fi.org/3/34/34277ff9_Cap-elko-smd-polarity.jpg)


    However, this diagram when referring to through hole diodes specify that the line represents the Negative (-) side.
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Show Image
    (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/diode-markings.jpg)


    Is everything I have said correct?


    swill, I just double checked with mistakemistake, the second diagram I linked is misleading. The line indicates the cathode. I'll edit the post now.

    I'm actually a little confused. Let me check with someone else.

    Ok, so it should be thought of in terms of electrical current flow and not positive/negative. The cathode is where the current flow out of the diode and the anode is where the current flows in. The line indicates where the cathode is. I'm going to edit the post now. Does that make more sense?

    Further reading on Wikpedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode) shows that the cathode is negative on a diode but the cathode is not always negative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: limmy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:43:40
    I am looking for a particular illustration that describes differences of Cherry MX switches.

    1. It is created by a Chinese.
    2. It involves pictures of penetration (different shapes of slides and etc)

    I thought it was hilarious and want to see it again, but I cannot seem to find it.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:48:31
    Quote from: limmy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:43:40
    I am looking for a particular illustration that describes differences of Cherry MX switches.

    1. It is created by a Chinese.
    2. It involves pictures of penetration (different shapes of slides and etc)

    I thought it was hilarious and want to see it again, but I cannot seem to find it.

    Thanks!

    u wot m8
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:58:20
    Quote from: limmy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:43:40
    I am looking for a particular illustration that describes differences of Cherry MX switches.

    1. It is created by a Chinese.
    2. It involves pictures of penetration (different shapes of slides and etc)

    I thought it was hilarious and want to see it again, but I cannot seem to find it.

    Thanks!

    This isn't Google image search. Please don't ask for "funny pictures" here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 20:00:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:58:20
    Quote from: limmy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:43:40
    I am looking for a particular illustration that describes differences of Cherry MX switches.

    1. It is created by a Chinese.
    2. It involves pictures of penetration (different shapes of slides and etc)

    I thought it was hilarious and want to see it again, but I cannot seem to find it.

    Thanks!

    This isn't Google image search. Please don't ask for "funny pictures" here.

    wow. such buzzkill

    edit: such inability to quote properly, wow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: limmy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 20:01:55
    It was informative funny picture... though.

    Thanks for the response!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 14 November 2013, 20:03:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:33:26
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:22:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Yeah it should matter, the direction determines the polarity. One end should have a line, the other end doesn't. The side with the line is positive or the anode on SMD. Check out the picture (Borrowed from Head-Fi) below for some examples Dai Lo.

    Show Image
    (http://cdn.head-fi.org/3/34/34277ff9_Cap-elko-smd-polarity.jpg)



    On PCBs, they often have little diagrams showing you which end is positive. For example, my KMAC has this:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/NS3hU7P.jpg)


    So you just match the lines up.

    And if you have just regular diodes, they'll line up like this (Props to Sifo for the pic):

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hV8DTsi.jpg)


    And I'm linking this picture just for more info on plain/non-SMD diodes. Picture found here (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/diodes.html).

    Show Image
    (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/diode-markings.jpg)


    Reading this, I am slightly confused...  Do regular diodes and SMD diodes have different meanings for the stripe on one side. 

    This specifies that on SMD diodes, the line specifies Positive (+)...
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Yeah it should matter, the direction determines the polarity. One end should have a line, the other end doesn't. The side with the line is positive or the anode on SMD. Check out the picture (Borrowed from Head-Fi) below for some examples Dai Lo.

    Show Image
    (http://cdn.head-fi.org/3/34/34277ff9_Cap-elko-smd-polarity.jpg)


    However, this diagram when referring to through hole diodes specify that the line represents the Negative (-) side.
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:42:17
    Show Image
    (http://modeltrainadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/diode-markings.jpg)


    Is everything I have said correct?


    swill, I just double checked with mistakemistake, the second diagram I linked is misleading. The line indicates the cathode. I'll edit the post now.

    I'm actually a little confused. Let me check with someone else.

    Ok, so it should be thought of in terms of electrical current flow and not positive/negative. The cathode is where the current flow out of the diode and the anode is where the current flows in. The line indicates where the cathode is. I'm going to edit the post now. Does that make more sense?

    Further reading on Wikpedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode) shows that the cathode is negative on a diode but the cathode is not always negative.

    Ahh, ya that is a bit confusing at face value.  I understand why you have to look at it from the 'current' perspective though.  This line is what really drove home why it is confusing.

    Quote from: Wikipedia
    In a device which consumes power, the cathode is negative, and in a device which provides power, the cathode is positive

    Thank you for helping clear up my misunderstanding of this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolonelkadat on Thu, 14 November 2013, 22:08:21
    My spacebar is approximately 125-130mm long at the base. ~115-120mm at the top. (id be precise but my calipers have no battery atm).
    What is this in terms of X? is it 6.2X?

    How many mm in an X? and do I measure from the top or the bottom of the key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 14 November 2013, 22:35:07
    Quote from: kolonelkadat on Thu, 14 November 2013, 22:08:21
    My spacebar is approximately 125-130mm long at the base. ~115-120mm at the top. (id be precise but my calipers have no battery atm).
    What is this in terms of X? is it 6.2X?

    How many mm in an X? and do I measure from the top or the bottom of the key?

    Always measure from the bottom.  I think different profiles are a touch different in width but close enough that calipers are about the only way you will see it.  I do know that 1x keys in SP DCS profile are .715 inches.  So that would be around 18.161mm.  Hope this helps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolonelkadat on Thu, 14 November 2013, 23:13:14
    Indeed it does. Thanks melvang.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 14 November 2013, 23:42:17
    Anyone know if it is possible to do a custom key layout in Android 4.1.2.  I found out how to switch out the key map to Dvorak but want to move a couple keys around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: babyface on Fri, 15 November 2013, 04:40:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 03 November 2013, 06:07:26
    Quote from: babyface on Sun, 03 November 2013, 06:00:53
    What units are the keys to the right of the space bar on poker ii? The bottom row.

    thanks a bunch! I needed to know for R5 :)

    1x1.25
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 15 November 2013, 10:14:46
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 14 November 2013, 18:38:47
    Can you tell the difference between diffused or water clear LEDs when installed on a keyboard?  If so, are there advantages to one or the other?

    Bump...  Has anyone see/worked with both and can give some input regarding characteristics when installed on a keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:39:07
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 14 November 2013, 18:38:47
    Can you tell the difference between diffused or water clear LEDs when installed on a keyboard?  If so, are there advantages to one or the other?

    I imagine the water clear LEDs are brighter than the diffused ones. I can't find pictures of both LEDs installed on a keyboard though.

    Quote from: swill on Fri, 15 November 2013, 10:14:46
    Bump...  Has anyone see/worked with both and can give some input regarding characteristics when installed on a keyboard?

    Please try not to bump questions. The reason is that a lot of questions get asked and it'd be mayhem if everyone bumped their question. I'll try and hunt down someone to ask. I think Photoelectric has done a ton of research into LEDs. Jdcarpe might know too from the sheer number of boards he owns/worked on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:44:38
    Has anyone ever encountered their Ducky Shine 2 shorting out?

    Similar to this:


    It happened to mine yesterday (after changing the switches + LEDs) and I realized that the PCB was touching the pins on the bottom of the case where the USB PCB board was...all I did was cover it up with tape and it fixed it. This problem only occurred when the top case snapped into place - I am assuming it exerted too much pressure on the PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:47:40
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:44:38
    Has anyone ever encountered their Ducky Shine 2 shorting out?

    I've had this happen on my Pure and FC700R. The case material is apparently a bit conductive and throws off the circuit. Just put a piece of drawer liner/tape/something you know that's not conductive between the PCB and case. Should work fine after. I've put pieces of drawer in both those keyboards and it fixed the issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:53:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:47:40
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:44:38
    Has anyone ever encountered their Ducky Shine 2 shorting out?

    I've had this happen on my Pure and FC700R. The case material is apparently a bit conductive and throws off the circuit. Just put a piece of drawer liner/tape/something you know that's not conductive between the PCB and case. Should work fine after. I've put pieces of drawer in both those keyboards and it fixed the issue.

    I actually have that inside the case to "dampen" the noise. I just squeezed the case and it's shorting out again...argh. I'll try to rearrange the liner and see if it works.

    Thanks for the reply!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:34:29
    Where can I get topre key cap sets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:34:55
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:34:29
    Where can I get topre key cap sets?

    EK
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:38:30
    I'm terrible at eyballing the size of keys. Can anyone help me figure out this Minila JP layout?

    (http://i.imgur.com/RMSSLWC.jpg?1)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:51:31
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:38:30
    I'm terrible at eyballing the size of keys. Can anyone help me figure out this Minila JP layout?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RMSSLWC.jpg?1)


    Pretty sure its 1.2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1.2  - 3 - 1.2 - 1.2 - 1 - 1 - 1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:56:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:51:31
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:38:30
    I'm terrible at eyballing the size of keys. Can anyone help me figure out this Minila JP layout?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RMSSLWC.jpg?1)


    Pretty sure its 1.2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1.2  - 3 - 1.2 - 1.2 - 1 - 1 - 1

    I concur
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 16 November 2013, 00:52:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:47:40
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:44:38
    Has anyone ever encountered their Ducky Shine 2 shorting out?

    I've had this happen on my Pure and FC700R. The case material is apparently a bit conductive and throws off the circuit. Just put a piece of drawer liner/tape/something you know that's not conductive between the PCB and case. Should work fine after. I've put pieces of drawer in both those keyboards and it fixed the issue.

    Nope...still persisting. When I press in the middle of the keyboard, it just short circuits. I already rearranged the lining and this still persists...:(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Sat, 16 November 2013, 00:59:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:56:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:51:31
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:38:30
    I'm terrible at eyballing the size of keys. Can anyone help me figure out this Minila JP layout?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RMSSLWC.jpg?1)


    Pretty sure its 1.2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1.2  - 3 - 1.2 - 1.2 - 1 - 1 - 1

    I concur

    Thank you both :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Sat, 16 November 2013, 01:01:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:34:55
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:34:29
    Where can I get topre key cap sets?

    EK
    Sorry, I should specific. Key cap sets for JIS Realforce keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Capitalistix on Sat, 16 November 2013, 05:16:28
    Hey yall, long time no post :P

    Just had a quick silly question, and needed a refresher on mah cherry lessons. Are there any switch types that feel like MX greens (ie same bump and actuation force) but with no audible click?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 16 November 2013, 06:01:49
    Quote from: Capitalistix on Sat, 16 November 2013, 05:16:28
    Hey yall, long time no post :P

    Just had a quick silly question, and needed a refresher on mah cherry lessons. Are there any switch types that feel like MX greens (ie same bump and actuation force) but with no audible click?

    That would be MX clears.  MX whites have a softer click.  Clears do have a slightly different spring than blacks which are linear with no bump or click.  The spring in clears (with no stem) is just a touch lighter at the actuation point and a bit heavier at the bottom.  I believe there is a link in the op to a graph comparing I believe 6 different springs including blacks, clears, cherry "light springs", and 3 from originativeco.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 16 November 2013, 07:17:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 16 November 2013, 06:01:49
    Quote from: Capitalistix on Sat, 16 November 2013, 05:16:28
    Hey yall, long time no post :P

    Just had a quick silly question, and needed a refresher on mah cherry lessons. Are there any switch types that feel like MX greens (ie same bump and actuation force) but with no audible click?

    That would be MX clears.  MX whites have a softer click.  Clears do have a slightly different spring than blacks which are linear with no bump or click.  The spring in clears (with no stem) is just a touch lighter at the actuation point and a bit heavier at the bottom.  I believe there is a link in the op to a graph comparing I believe 6 different springs including blacks, clears, cherry "light springs", and 3 from originativeco.com

    I wouldn't say clears and greens are anything alike, but that's must my opinion from comparing the two.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 16 November 2013, 08:10:23
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 16 November 2013, 07:17:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 16 November 2013, 06:01:49
    Quote from: Capitalistix on Sat, 16 November 2013, 05:16:28
    Hey yall, long time no post :P

    Just had a quick silly question, and needed a refresher on mah cherry lessons. Are there any switch types that feel like MX greens (ie same bump and actuation force) but with no audible click?

    That would be MX clears.  MX whites have a softer click.  Clears do have a slightly different spring than blacks which are linear with no bump or click.  The spring in clears (with no stem) is just a touch lighter at the actuation point and a bit heavier at the bottom.  I believe there is a link in the op to a graph comparing I believe 6 different springs including blacks, clears, cherry "light springs", and 3 from originativeco.com

    I wouldn't say clears and greens are anything alike, but that's must my opinion from comparing the two.

    You do have a point and I should have been a little more clear in my response.  What I forgot to add was this my suggestion for a stock switch that is essentially a non clicky green.  My other suggestion would be a jailhouse mod on greens.  While I am not exactly sure what all is involved in this mod I do know that the process makes it non clicky by not letting the clicky slider move independently of the switch stem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Sat, 16 November 2013, 08:35:10
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Sat, 16 November 2013, 01:01:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:34:55
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:34:29
    Where can I get topre key cap sets?

    EK
    Sorry, I should specific. Key cap sets for JIS Realforce keyboards.
    If you can't find anywhere else, you can find them on Amazon.co.jp
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 November 2013, 10:58:43
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sat, 16 November 2013, 00:52:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:47:40
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 15 November 2013, 11:44:38
    Has anyone ever encountered their Ducky Shine 2 shorting out?

    I've had this happen on my Pure and FC700R. The case material is apparently a bit conductive and throws off the circuit. Just put a piece of drawer liner/tape/something you know that's not conductive between the PCB and case. Should work fine after. I've put pieces of drawer in both those keyboards and it fixed the issue.

    Nope...still persisting. When I press in the middle of the keyboard, it just short circuits. I already rearranged the lining and this still persists...:(

    Thought you said tape worked? Did you try taping the area of the case where you suspect it shorting out? In other words, if its shorting out in the middle of the keyboard, take the PCB out, and put tape where you suspect the PCB is shorting.

    Quote from: Capitalistix on Sat, 16 November 2013, 05:16:28
    Hey yall, long time no post :P

    Just had a quick silly question, and needed a refresher on mah cherry lessons. Are there any switch types that feel like MX greens (ie same bump and actuation force) but with no audible click?

    Like Melvang said, I would say MX Clears and maybe MX Whites. However in my experience, Clears still make some noise. I think that only the linear switches make very little noise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Sun, 17 November 2013, 00:45:37
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Sat, 16 November 2013, 08:35:10
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Sat, 16 November 2013, 01:01:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:34:55
    Quote from: dragonxx21 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 22:34:29
    Where can I get topre key cap sets?

    EK
    Sorry, I should specific. Key cap sets for JIS Realforce keyboards.
    If you can't find anywhere else, you can find them on Amazon.co.jp
    thanks. Proxying frmo Amazon.co.jp is probably my best option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 17 November 2013, 14:14:36
    are there any 75% boards that are fully compatible with mac? meaning the command key and whatnot

    possibly the noppoo? my friend wants a board and needs to use it with him mac
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 17 November 2013, 15:50:05
    How much does 75 switches weigh?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Olitender on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:27:35
    Where can I find coiled cables that is about one foot long without breaking the bank buying custom cables?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:33:36
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 17 November 2013, 15:50:05
    How much does 75 switches weigh?

    Depends how heavy the spring is.  /Trollface

    10 switches are, on average, 17g from the weighing I've done, so take that as you will.

    Quote from: Olitender on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:27:35
    Where can I find coiled cables that is about one foot long without breaking the bank buying custom cables?

    eBay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:33:56
    Quote from: Olitender on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:27:35
    Where can I find coiled cables that is about one foot long without breaking the bank buying custom cables?

    How does $20 break the bank? Go to one of the various cable makers and get one.

    If $20 breaks the bank, then make one yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 17 November 2013, 21:16:23
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:33:56
    Quote from: Olitender on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:27:35
    Where can I find coiled cables that is about one foot long without breaking the bank buying custom cables?

    How does $20 break the bank? Go to one of the various cable makers and get one.

    If $20 breaks the bank, then make one yourself.

    Everyone has different budgets and are in different situations than one another.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 17 November 2013, 21:30:38
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:33:56
    Quote from: Olitender on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:27:35
    Where can I find coiled cables that is about one foot long without breaking the bank buying custom cables?

    How does $20 break the bank? Go to one of the various cable makers and get one.

    If $20 breaks the bank, then make one yourself.

    The trial and error, plus one set of materials, may prove less cost effective than simply buying one.

    That is also very short for a cable - most are around 6ft long.  Most of the cost of a custom cable is in the plug and work to assemble it - I don't think there will be much discount buying a 1ft cable over a 6ft cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 17 November 2013, 23:09:07
    What springs do you guys use for your ergo clear space bars? I'm using 62g springs and it "clacks" pretty loud (I clipped the stabilizers).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Sun, 17 November 2013, 23:11:39
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 17 November 2013, 23:09:07
    What springs do you guys use for your ergo clear space bars? I'm using 62g springs and it "clacks" pretty loud (I clipped the stabilizers).

    67g. Also depends on how thick your spacebar is. I'm using an IMSTO thick pbt and the space bar is muted. However when I use a WASD abs space bar it sounds tinny and clacky
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 17 November 2013, 23:12:01
    Where do I get latex milk?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 17 November 2013, 23:57:11
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Sun, 17 November 2013, 23:11:39
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 17 November 2013, 23:09:07
    What springs do you guys use for your ergo clear space bars? I'm using 62g springs and it "clacks" pretty loud (I clipped the stabilizers).

    67g. Also depends on how thick your spacebar is. I'm using an IMSTO thick pbt and the space bar is muted. However when I use a WASD abs space bar it sounds tinny and clacky

    Ah okay, thanks for the reply! I resorted to swapping the 62g springs with the stock clear ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 18 November 2013, 07:07:59
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 17 November 2013, 23:12:01
    Where do I get latex milk?

    If that is the same as "liquid latex", ebay has some. An art supplies shop should have some too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 November 2013, 08:20:20
    Quote from: Olitender on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:27:35
    Where can I find coiled cables that is about one foot long without breaking the bank buying custom cables?

    In the future, Olitender, you should include how much your budget is. It's easier for us to help you that way.

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 17 November 2013, 14:14:36
    are there any 75% boards that are fully compatible with mac? meaning the command key and whatnot

    possibly the noppoo? my friend wants a board and needs to use it with him mac

    The Matias keyboards are the only keyboards that comes to mind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:00:58
    Hi, I'm new to the whole keyboard modding scene and just ordered my first mechanical keyboard (CM QFR Brown Switches). Would have loved to have gotten a Filco keyboard, but couldn't justify spending nearly twice as much on something that works just as well.

    After browsing through some threads in the forum, I've found some terms that I'm not familiar with and would appreciate it if someone would help clarify them for me before I proceed with purchasing a new set of keycaps for my keyboard.

    What is and what are the differences between an ABS and PBT keycap?

    What details should I look at when purchasing a new set of keycaps? Will keycaps that fit a Filco keyboard, fit on a CM keyboard?

    For those who are wondering, I'm planning to replace my QFR keycaps with an all white set. How original, I know :D
    I'm inclined to post the link to e-bay where I'm planning to buy the keycaps from but I'm not sure if that's against the rules for a new guy.

    Thanks to anyone that can help!







    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:12:58
    Quote from: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:00:58
    1) I've found some terms that I'm not familiar with and would appreciate it if someone would help clarify them for me before I proceed with purchasing a new set of keycaps for my keyboard.

    2) What is and what are the differences between an ABS and PBT keycap?

    3) What details should I look at when purchasing a new set of keycaps? Will keycaps that fit a Filco keyboard, fit on a CM keyboard?

    4) I'm inclined to post the link to e-bay where I'm planning to buy the keycaps from but I'm not sure if that's against the rules for a new guy.

    1) There's a Glossary (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0) that BlueBar and the Keepers are working on.

    2) ABS and PBT are types of plastics. They feel different. Some prefer ABS, some PBT.

    3) Make sure they fit. Your Filco is probably a ANSI 87 key (has 87 keys on it) or ANSI 1.25x modifiers. So just find sets that have the standard ANSI layout and you'll be fine. Most keyboards you'll buy/find are ANSI 87 key. You'll also want to find a profile you like.

    4) If you want us to verify if they fit, link us.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:16:11
    Quote from: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:00:58
    Hi, I'm new to the whole keyboard modding scene and just ordered my first mechanical keyboard (CM QFR Brown Switches). Would have loved to have gotten a Filco keyboard, but couldn't justify spending nearly twice as much on something that works just as well.

    After browsing through some threads in the forum, I've found some terms that I'm not familiar with and would appreciate it if someone would help clarify them for me before I proceed with purchasing a new set of keycaps for my keyboard.

    What is and what are the differences between an ABS and PBT keycap?

    ABS and PBT are types of plastic used to mold keycaps. They each have a different feel and sound when typing on them, and the experience is highly subjective. You will have to try them for yourself to find which you like better. The thickness of the keycaps also plays a factor in how they sound when bottoming out/rebounding, and the overall experience of using them.

    Quote from: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:00:58
    What details should I look at when purchasing a new set of keycaps? Will keycaps that fit a Filco keyboard, fit on a CM keyboard?

    Yes, keycaps that fit a Filco will fit a QFR. You are looking for a standard ANSI 87-key set, with 1.25-unit modifiers on the bottom row, and a 6.25-unit spacebar.

    Quote from: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:00:58
    For those who are wondering, I'm planning to replace my QFR keycaps with an all white set. How original, I know :D
    I'm inclined to post the link to e-bay where I'm planning to buy the keycaps from but I'm not sure if that's against the rules for a new guy.

    Thanks to anyone that can help!

    Posting eBay links for reference about your question isn't prohibited.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:29:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:12:58

    1) There's a Glossary (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0) that BlueBar and the Keepers are working on.

    2) ABS and PBT are types of plastics. They feel different. Some prefer ABS, some PBT.

    3) Make sure they fit. Your Filco is probably a ANSI 87 key (has 87 keys on it) or ANSI 1.25x modifiers. So just find sets that have the standard ANSI layout and you'll be fine. Most keyboards you'll buy/find are ANSI 87 key. You'll also want to find a profile you like.

    4) If you want us to verify if they fit, link us.

    Thanks! I stumbled upon this seller another member had linked, whilst browsing through the forums. I'm looking for engraved white keycaps for my CM QFR.

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3583352554.36.vKq8iu&id=13483583452

    Still looking for stores selling laser engraved white keycaps, most are selling side/top printed ones.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:32:53
    Quote from: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:29:35
    1) Thanks! I stumbled upon this seller another member had linked, whilst browsing through the forums. I'm looking for engraved white keycaps for my CM QFR.

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3583352554.36.vKq8iu&id=13483583452

    2) Still looking for stores selling laser engraved white keycaps, most are selling side/top printed ones.

    1) Says right in the title that it will fit Filco/Das/Ducky so it's safe to assume its ANSI 104 which means it will fit your ANSI 87 Filco. ANSI 104 is just the fullsize keycap set. ANSI 87 is the same set minus the numberpad.

    2) Engraved caps in general aren't popular since the indentation can get dirty fast.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:35:38
    Quote from: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:29:35
    Still looking for stores selling laser engraved white keycaps, most are selling side/top printed ones.

    The ones you posted are white laser engraved caps as far as I can see?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:14:02
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:35:38

    The ones you posted are white laser engraved caps as far as I can see?

    I'm still looking around for a store that can provide direct shipping to where I live or at least to the US where I have a forwarding address. Taobao has quite a complicated process of buying and it's all in Chinese which I can't really understand, though it is my last resort if I can't find any other sellers elsewhere.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:32:53

    1) Says right in the title that it will fit Filco/Das/Ducky so it's safe to assume its ANSI 104 which means it will fit your ANSI 87 Filco. ANSI 104 is just the fullsize keycap set. ANSI 87 is the same set minus the numberpad.

    2) Engraved caps in general aren't popular since the indentation can get dirty fast.

    I do take good care of my computer peripherals, cleaning them once they get a little dirty, borderline OCD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:20:35
    Quote from: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:14:02
    I'm still looking around for a store that can provide direct shipping to where I live or at least to the US where I have a forwarding address. Taobao has quite a complicated process of buying and it's all in Chinese which I can't really understand, though it is my last resort if I can't find any other sellers elsewhere.

    What is your location, anyway?

    Also, that taobao link you posted is a storefront for Geekhack user imsto. You could try PM'ing him with what you want. He is very trustworthy, and has been very accommodating of Geekhack users' requests. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:23:50
    Also for just an fyi imsto put a new site up

    http://imsto.cn/

    I believe it's still a work in progress but should help all those looking to buy from him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:29:41
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:20:35

    Also, that taobao link you posted is a storefront for Geekhack user imsto. You could try PM'ing him with what you want. He is very trustworthy, and has been very accommodating of Geekhack users' requests. :)

    Oh thanks! I'll PM him. I live in Singapore, where a QFR keyboard would set you back about 130USD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ValerieV on Mon, 18 November 2013, 19:12:21
    I have the POKER II and i can't figure out how to get the escape key to turn into a toggle key. I get the one symbol when i use the function button but i can't get the other squiggly line. I have the switch 2 on and i tried it off and it still won't work. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 18 November 2013, 19:21:01
    Erm.. did you press shift?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ValerieV on Mon, 18 November 2013, 19:26:29
    Yes and that only gives me the bottom symbol. Not the longer line. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 November 2013, 20:01:05
    Quote from: ValerieV on Mon, 18 November 2013, 19:12:21
    I have the POKER II and i can't figure out how to get the escape key to turn into a toggle key. I get the one symbol when i use the function button but i can't get the other squiggly line. I have the switch 2 on and i tried it off and it still won't work. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

    If you're looking for tilde, or ~, apparently it's FN+Q. apparently it's FN + shift + escape. You can download a Poker 2 manual here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45350.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 18 November 2013, 20:02:09
    Quote from: ValerieV on Mon, 18 November 2013, 19:12:21
    I have the POKER II and i can't figure out how to get the escape key to turn into a toggle key. I get the one symbol when i use the function button but i can't get the other squiggly line. I have the switch 2 on and i tried it off and it still won't work. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

    Push fn+shift+esc to get "~".    fn+esc would give " ` "
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ValerieV on Mon, 18 November 2013, 20:04:12
    THANK YOU! It worked. I thought it would be easier but i guess not. How did you know to do that? I read the directions and none of them said that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 18 November 2013, 20:09:21
    Quote from: ValerieV on Mon, 18 November 2013, 20:04:12
    THANK YOU! It worked. I thought it would be easier but i guess not. How did you know to do that? I read the directions and none of them said that.

    I just guessed, mostly.  Since the default behaviour is Esc, it makes sense that the function layer mapping for that key would be the `~ key below it.  And in this case, it's a doubled up function layer, so you need fn+shift+esc to access the "shift" level of the function layer. 

    So in short, I just knew.   :p  Also, if that's too many key presses to get the ~, you can remap that key using the programming mode of the Poker II, to make it a "top level" function layer key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JayG30 on Mon, 18 November 2013, 22:07:35
    I see people say "Cherry key caps" but don't see any real definition of what that means. What I believe is being referred to is key caps that were produced by the Cherry Corporation using their molds before they stopped making them. These are double shot ABS keys. The most common keys being the conical style that signature plastic mimics with their DCS line? However, the Signature Plastic DCS keys have thinner walls (not sure of what other differences). Also, it seems that someone purchased these Cherry Corp molds now (GMK?) and are producing keys just like the original ones made by Cherry (along with the original Cherry Corp legends)?

    Is the above correct or am I mistaking/forgetting anything important?
    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 November 2013, 22:20:25
    Quote from: JayG30 on Mon, 18 November 2013, 22:07:35
    I see people say "Cherry key caps" but don't see any real definition of what that means. What I believe is being referred to is key caps that were produced by the Cherry Corporation using their molds before they stopped making them. These are double shot ABS keys. The most common keys being the conical style that signature plastic mimics with their DCS line? However, the Signature Plastic DCS keys have thinner walls (not sure of what other differences). Also, it seems that someone purchased these Cherry Corp molds now (GMK?) and are producing keys just like the original ones made by Cherry (along with the original Cherry Corp legends)?

    Is the above correct or am I mistaking/forgetting anything important?
    Thanks.

    Yeah basically, if they say cherry profile. Also sometimes people say cherry key caps when referring to any cherry mx compatible caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 19 November 2013, 10:54:40
    The top cover of my Cherry G80-1501HAD seems to be slightly off centre.. my esc key is almost touching the left side, but has a wide gap on the right side. It wasn't like this when I got it. Anyone else experienced this? I've tried taking it off and putting it back, but it doesn't seem to help at all. Can anyone think of a way I could remedy this? It just seems like a very strange issue, and it definitely doesn't seem like there's some easy fix :/ I've been playing around with it for the best part of an hour but still no luck.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 19 November 2013, 11:12:12
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 19 November 2013, 10:54:40
    The top cover of my Cherry G80-1501HAD seems to be slightly off centre.. my esc key is almost touching the left side, but has a wide gap on the right side. It wasn't like this when I got it. Anyone else experienced this? I've tried taking it off and putting it back, but it doesn't seem to help at all. Can anyone think of a way I could remedy this? It just seems like a very strange issue, and it definitely doesn't seem like there's some easy fix :/ I've been playing around with it for the best part of an hour but still no luck.

    Sounds like the PCB is misaligned within the case...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:15:40
    Has anyone gotten finger fatigue from heavy PBT caps? Are they actually heavier to press than thin ABS or is it just me? I almost feel like these would do well on some reds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:18:09
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:15:40
    Has anyone gotten finger fatigue from heavy PBT caps? Are they actually heavier to press than thin ABS or is it just me? I almost feel like these would do well on some reds.

    I've never heard of anyone getting fatigued based on keycaps. Did you change to a different switch than what you're used to?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:18:36
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:15:40
    Has anyone gotten finger fatigue from heavy PBT caps? Are they actually heavier to press than thin ABS or is it just me? I almost feel like these would do well on some reds.

    If the caps are more heavy than the ones you used before the switch would actually be lighter because of the increased weight that rests on the spring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:20:14
    keytrun, i think you're just used to oem profile. i'm sure you will get used to cherry profile soon. there's no way the change in plastic/weight/thickness would cause fatigue. profile, on the other hand, might.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:21:38
    If anything, the keys would be lighter to press (not heavier) because the weight of the key press = spring weight - weight of cap.

    I don't notice a weight difference based on thickness ok keycap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:42:20
    Then maybe its the profile. Or it could just be the fact that all night I was pulling keycaps off by hand (don't have a puller) and trying to get those little stabilizer pieces off the keys. My hands are still sore from it.

    EDIT: I put this in another thread but I never got a response. Can someone explain the deal with greasing the stabilizers? Which parts are greased? How does it affect it? Someone said that they don't even need grease. Does the filco come greased? Do I need to order anything to come in to prep for my board?

    EDIT 2: Also, for caps like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zerg-PBT-R4-Cherry-MX-Keycap-/331043013376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d13b38300 is it okay to type on them or will they fade?

    Also, do the surfaces of thick pbt feel difference than standard pbt? Whats the benefit of thick pbt? I can't tell because of the designs on my novelty caps, but from what I can tell they feel like they have similar surfaces.

    These are questions I asked in other threads that never got addressed. Best to ask it here ^.^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:53:18
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:42:20
    Can someone explain the deal with greasing the stabilizers? Which parts are greased? How does it affect it? Someone said that they don't even need grease. Does the filco come greased? Do I need to order anything to come in to prep for my board?

    Grease makes the stabs a little smoother, but it is not really necessary. If this is your first mechanical keyboard you will be amazed anyway ;)

    Read this to learn more:

    http://imgur.com/a/lhLqo


    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:42:20
    Also, do the surfaces of thick pbt feel difference than standard pbt? Whats the benefit of thick pbt?

    It's not the surface that feels different but the overall keypress, because the keycap itself is heavier. The benefit is a different feeling - some prefer thick keys (majority), some don't (minority) and some don't care. You have to test those things on your own, because it's a very individual thing. Just because others like it doesn't mean you'll like too :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:59:34
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:42:20
    1) I put this in another thread but I never got a response. Can someone explain the deal with greasing the stabilizers? Which parts are greased? How does it affect it? Someone said that they don't even need grease.

    2) Does the filco come greased? Do I need to order anything to come in to prep for my board?

    3) Also, for caps like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zerg-PBT-R4-Cherry-MX-Keycap-/331043013376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d13b38300 is it okay to type on them or will they fade?

    4) Do the surfaces of thick pbt feel difference than standard pbt? 

    5) Whats the benefit of thick pbt?

    6) These are questions I asked in other threads that never got addressed. Best to ask it here ^.^

    1) Check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) as well as the link LechnerDE linked for more info. It makes switches feel smoother. You don't actually need to lube anything if you don't want.

    2) No it's not prelubed. No you can use the Filco out of the box.

    3) You can type on it. It's fine.

    4) Yes it might feel different. Different caps feel different to different people. Try them out and see which ones you like.

    5) It feels different. I generally prefer thick caps to thin caps. I think they feel nicer. You may feel different. Try some out.

    6) You can make a billion threads but if they don't show up in Spy, I might not see it. If you post here, I'll always respond. Can't speak for anyone else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:45:23
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:53:18
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:42:20
    Can someone explain the deal with greasing the stabilizers? Which parts are greased? How does it affect it? Someone said that they don't even need grease. Does the filco come greased? Do I need to order anything to come in to prep for my board?

    Grease makes the stabs a little smoother, but it is not really necessary. If this is your first mechanical keyboard you will be amazed anyway ;)

    Read this to learn more:

    http://imgur.com/a/lhLqo


    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:42:20
    Also, do the surfaces of thick pbt feel difference than standard pbt? Whats the benefit of thick pbt?

    It's not the surface that feels different but the overall keypress, because the keycap itself is heavier. The benefit is a different feeling - some prefer thick keys (majority), some don't (minority) and some don't care. You have to test those things on your own, because it's a very individual thing. Just because others like it doesn't mean you'll like too :)

    I have a blackwidow that I've been using for the last few months.

    I'm curious why the filco doesn't come lubed. My blackwidow has grease on the stabilizers. I'll check it out when I get it. If it feels stiff I'll follow the guide.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:46:51
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:45:23
    I'm curious why the filco doesn't come lubed. My blackwidow has grease on the stabilizers. I'll check it out when I get it. If it feels stiff I'll follow the guide.

    Cost. Cheaper and easier not to lube them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:58:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:46:51
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:45:23
    I'm curious why the filco doesn't come lubed. My blackwidow has grease on the stabilizers. I'll check it out when I get it. If it feels stiff I'll follow the guide.

    Cost. Cheaper and easier not to lube them.

    Yea, but I was always under the impression Filco was supposed to be top tier. Does WASD code lube them? I'm actually a little dissapointed I couldn't get the code. Is there anywhere to get one besides the official website where its out of stock? It looks like a filco with backlights, media keys and a detachable cable. Granted, I'm going to put my filco in an aluminum case @ some point I hope and I don't think I can do that with the code.

    Also, where can I buy the grease if I want to lube the stabilizers? Is it difficult? I haven't read the guide yet. I dont need a huge explanation (that's what the guides for). Just a "you can buy it anywhere locally" and a "yes / no" on difficulty.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:00:23
    There are no production keyboards that come lubed.  However the switches do come with a thin layer of lube from the factory.  I saw a picture of it somewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:01:39
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:58:10
    1) I was always under the impression Filco was supposed to be top tier.

    2) Does WASD code lube them? I'm actually a little dissapointed I couldn't get the code.

    3) Is there anywhere to get one besides the official website where its out of stock?

    4) where can I buy the grease if I want to lube the stabilizers?

    5) Is it difficult? I haven't read the guide yet.

    6) I dont need a huge explanation (that's what the guides for).

    1) Filco uses the Costar stabilizers I'm used to seeing and I don't think mine needs lube. The Razer Blackwidow had weird Costar knockoffs that were super brittle. I guess the lube masked any poor feeling they had. Lubing or lack of it doesn't mean a keyboard is "top tier".

    2) WASD lubes their stabilizers but not the switches.

    3) Wait for it to be restocked or classifieds.

    4) WASD uses SuperLube. I guess the standard hardware store has it.

    5) It's easy.

    6) Start reading. There's a lot of it to be done.

    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:00:23
    There are no production keyboards that come lubed.  However the switches do come with a thin layer of lube from the factory.  I saw a picture of it somewhere.

    Need link please. I thought only Whites came factory lubed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:01:45
    My Razer Blackwidow Ultimate has grease on the stabilizers.

    EDIT: Didn't see your post when I posted, CPT. Thanks. I'm sure the Filco will be fine.

    Why lube the switches? That seems like it would be really difficult. If you want easier to press switches why not just buy different ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:03:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:01:39
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:58:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:46:51
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 14:45:23
    I'm curious why the filco doesn't come lubed. My blackwidow has grease on the stabilizers. I'll check it out when I get it. If it feels stiff I'll follow the guide.

    Cost. Cheaper and easier not to lube them.

    1) I was always under the impression Filco was supposed to be top tier.

    2) Does WASD code lube them?

    1) Filco uses the Costar stabilizers I'm used to seeing and I don't think mine needs lube. The Razer Blackwidow had weird Costar knockoffs that were super brittle. I guess the lube masked any poor feeling they had. Lubing or lack of it doesn't mean a keyboard is "top tier".

    2) WASD lubes their stabilizers but not the switches.

    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:00:23
    There are no production keyboards that come lubed.  However the switches do come with a thin layer of lube from the factory.  I saw a picture of it somewhere.

    Need link please. I thought only Whites came factory lubed.
    I'll try to find it

    EDIT:

    Small blob of grease on contact points.

    (http://i.minus.com/iOpWyx87OVWkG.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:06:02
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:01:45
    Why lube the switches? That seems like it would be really difficult. If you want easier to press switches why not just buy different ones?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:59:34
    1) Check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) as well as the link LechnerDE linked for more info. It makes switches feel smoother. You don't actually need to lube anything if you don't want.

    Read a little more before you just post tons of questions please.

    Quote from: MKULTRA on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:03:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:01:39
    Need link please. I thought only Whites came factory lubed.
    I'll try to find it

    EDIT:

    Small blob of grease on contact points.

    Show Image
    (http://i.minus.com/iOpWyx87OVWkG.jpg)


    Can you also give a link from where that picture is from? Is that dianoda's album if its a minus link?


    Edit: It is from dianoda's Minus album. It wasn't opening at work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:06:02
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:01:45
    Why lube the switches? That seems like it would be really difficult. If you want easier to press switches why not just buy different ones?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:59:34
    1) Check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) as well as the link LechnerDE linked for more info. It makes switches feel smoother. You don't actually need to lube anything if you don't want.

    Read a little more before you just post tons of questions please.

    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:12:57
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?
    They use ABS safe stuff because the switches are made from ABS, not because the keycaps are made from ABS.

    Use kryox lubricants, don't use any of the Superlube, etc that's mentioned in that thread. Krytox is the best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:13:34
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.0

    Also don't the Cherry MX lube guide and ripster guide have recommendations on lubes you can use? They will be fine with PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:15:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:13:34
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.0

    Also don't the Cherry MX lube guide and ripster guide have recommendations on lubes you can use? They will be fine with PBT.

    geekhackers store is closed just an FYI
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:16:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:15:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:13:34
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.0

    Also don't the Cherry MX lube guide and ripster guide have recommendations on lubes you can use? They will be fine with PBT.

    geekhackers store is closed just an FYI

    Yes but the lube will be sold elsewhere and the information will be posted there when mkawa is ready.

    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:12:57
    Use kryox lubricants, don't use any of the Superlube, etc that's mentioned in that thread. Krytox is the best.

    FWIW, WASD and The_Beast both use Superlube on the stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:52:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:16:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:15:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:13:34
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.0

    Also don't the Cherry MX lube guide and ripster guide have recommendations on lubes you can use? They will be fine with PBT.

    geekhackers store is closed just an FYI

    Yes but the lube will be sold elsewhere and the information will be posted there when mkawa is ready.

    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:12:57
    Use kryox lubricants, don't use any of the Superlube, etc that's mentioned in that thread. Krytox is the best.

    FWIW, WASD and The_Beast both use Superlube on the stabilizers.

    from secret pms mkawa is ready but the vendor is not  :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 19 November 2013, 16:45:36
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 19 November 2013, 11:12:12
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 19 November 2013, 10:54:40
    The top cover of my Cherry G80-1501HAD seems to be slightly off centre.. my esc key is almost touching the left side, but has a wide gap on the right side. It wasn't like this when I got it. Anyone else experienced this? I've tried taking it off and putting it back, but it doesn't seem to help at all. Can anyone think of a way I could remedy this? It just seems like a very strange issue, and it definitely doesn't seem like there's some easy fix :/ I've been playing around with it for the best part of an hour but still no luck.

    Sounds like the PCB is misaligned within the case...

    (http://i.imgur.com/Geck3xz.jpg)

    I think I'm getting something similar, my arrow cluster looks too much to the left
    slighty misalignment of the pcb makes sense tho
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:16:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:16:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:15:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:13:34
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.0

    Also don't the Cherry MX lube guide and ripster guide have recommendations on lubes you can use? They will be fine with PBT.

    geekhackers store is closed just an FYI

    Yes but the lube will be sold elsewhere and the information will be posted there when mkawa is ready.

    Apparently he's ready tonight (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51181.0)! Also check out this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51182.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Tue, 19 November 2013, 22:20:47
    Can you open the switch housing with the plate from The_Beast's group buy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: terran5992 on Tue, 19 November 2013, 22:21:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 19 November 2013, 22:20:47
    Can you open the switch housing with the plate from The_Beast's group buy?

    I think that you should be able to
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 23:52:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:16:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:16:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:15:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:13:34
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.0

    Also don't the Cherry MX lube guide and ripster guide have recommendations on lubes you can use? They will be fine with PBT.

    geekhackers store is closed just an FYI

    Yes but the lube will be sold elsewhere and the information will be posted there when mkawa is ready.

    Apparently he's ready tonight (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51181.0)! Also check out this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51182.0).

    Should I order the thick or thin formula for the stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 19 November 2013, 23:54:32
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 23:52:34

    Should I order the thick or thin formula for the stabilizers?

    Just use whatever you would use for your switches.  It shouldn't make too much of a difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 00:51:25
    Can you swap stems with the plate from The_Beast's group buy?

    Is there a white and beige pbt dyesub set? Besides the one from originative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 20 November 2013, 00:55:00
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 00:51:25
    Can you swap stems with the plate from The_Beast's group buy?

    Is there a white and beige pbt dyesub set?

    You should be able to.

    Yes. (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets-1/products/bsp-classic-beige)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 01:07:04
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 20 November 2013, 00:55:00
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 00:51:25
    Can you swap stems with the plate from The_Beast's group buy?

    Is there a white and beige pbt dyesub set?

    You should be able to.

    Yes. (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets-1/products/bsp-classic-beige)

    Thanks! And I edited my post to say besides from originative :p A little pricey  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 20 November 2013, 01:14:26
    Pbt caps will almost always costore than abs

    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 23:52:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:16:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:16:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:15:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:13:34
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.0

    Also don't the Cherry MX lube guide and ripster guide have recommendations on lubes you can use? They will be fine with PBT.

    geekhackers store is closed just an FYI

    Yes but the lube will be sold elsewhere and the information will be posted there when mkawa is ready.

    Apparently he's ready tonight (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51181.0)! Also check out this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51182.0).

    Should I order the thick or thin formula for the stabilizers?

    Both will work fine.  The thick will have a greater impact on the noise, as I am told.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Wed, 20 November 2013, 01:23:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 November 2013, 01:14:26
    Pbt caps will almost always costore than abs

    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 23:52:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:16:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:16:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:15:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:13:34
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:10:20
    Sorry about that. I don't mean to be annoying. I'm just excited and trying to absorb as much as possible.

    I just read the switch lubing part of the guide and it seems extremely simple. They recommend several different types of grease, all of which they say is ABS plastic safe. Would you recommend one of those over another for the PBT? I'm sure there's something I can buy that will allow me to apply the grease finely to the location. Anyone use anything specific that works well?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.0

    Also don't the Cherry MX lube guide and ripster guide have recommendations on lubes you can use? They will be fine with PBT.

    geekhackers store is closed just an FYI

    Yes but the lube will be sold elsewhere and the information will be posted there when mkawa is ready.

    Apparently he's ready tonight (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51181.0)! Also check out this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51182.0).

    Should I order the thick or thin formula for the stabilizers?

    Both will work fine.  The thick will have a greater impact on the noise, as I am told.

    And you agree that product is what I should buy for stabilizers? I wonder why its only advertising itself for the switches.

    I have another question. CPT, do you think you could look @ http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51068.0 for me and let me know what your thoughts are? I'm really interested in putting a custom case on my incoming filco but am confused as can be. Some say the Vertex cases are great, others....not so much. Acrylic? What's that even like?

    Also, what's the deal with these mini keyboards? I think its 60%? What % is a TKL? The mini keyboards I'm referring to are the ones that have the F keys still. Do they have just as much typing room as any other board? Do they take standard keycaps? or do you have to buy specific caps for a mini? Kittens?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 20 November 2013, 03:32:44
    Quote from: Keytrun on Wed, 20 November 2013, 01:23:45
    1. Also, what's the deal with these mini keyboards?
    2. What % is a TKL?
    3. The mini keyboards I'm referring to are the ones that have the F keys still.
    4. Do they have just as much typing room as any other board?
    5. Do they take standard keycaps? or do you have to buy specific caps for a mini?
    6. Kittens?

    1. This should help: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50523.0
    2. 80%
    3. You mean 75%, not 60%.
    4. If you mean the spacing between the keys, yes.
    5. The mods usually are non-standard sized.
    6. Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 07:56:16
    Quote from: Keytrun on Wed, 20 November 2013, 01:23:45
    1) And you agree that product is what I should buy for stabilizers? I wonder why its only advertising itself for the switches.

    2) I have another question. CPT, do you think you could look @ http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51068.0 for me and let me know what your thoughts are? I'm really interested in putting a custom case on my incoming filco but am confused as can be. Some say the Vertex cases are great, others....not so much.

    3) Acrylic? What's that even like?

    1) This was already explained to you.

    2) I don't know what a "Vertex" case is but the Vortex cases I've seen aren't good quality in my opinion. Poor casting, bad anodization, bad craftsmanship.

    3) It's a plastic.

    Not to be harsh Keytrun but you seriously need to read more thoroughly. This is twice now that you've asked something that was already explained specifically to you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: snoopy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 11:48:43
    does a dolch windowed capslock exist?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 20 November 2013, 11:49:32
    Quote from: snoopy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 11:48:43
    does a dolch windowed capslock exist?

    Naturally no, but with the power of gmk and sherry, yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 20 November 2013, 11:50:25
    Quote from: snoopy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 11:48:43
    does a dolch windowed capslock exist?
    Yup! From the originative dolch extension kit.

    http://imgur.com/a/LyEtp
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:09:41
    Is there a spring identical to cherry mx heavy on originative? It doesn't look like it to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:10:16
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:09:41
    Is there a spring identical to cherry mx heavy on originative? It doesn't look like it to me.

    What are you calling cherry mx heavy? Originative has 80g springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: snoopy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:12:18
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 20 November 2013, 11:50:25
    Quote from: snoopy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 11:48:43
    does a dolch windowed capslock exist?
    Yup! From the originative dolch extension kit.

    http://imgur.com/a/LyEtp

    Thanks. I'll put that on my personal wishlist.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:20:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:10:16
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:09:41
    Is there a spring identical to cherry mx heavy on originative? It doesn't look like it to me.

    What are you calling cherry mx heavy? Originative has 80g springs.

    The springs from blacks, greens, and whites. Are 80g the same? I didn't even see those because I only looked at the graph.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:23:55
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:20:13
    The springs from blacks, greens, and whites. Are 80g the same? I didn't even see those because I only looked at the graph.

    80g springs should be a bit lighter than the heavy Cherry springs but are the closest you will get from Originative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 14:28:14
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:20:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:10:16
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 13:09:41
    Is there a spring identical to cherry mx heavy on originative? It doesn't look like it to me.

    What are you calling cherry mx heavy? Originative has 80g springs.

    The springs from blacks, greens, and whites. Are 80g the same? I didn't even see those because I only looked at the graph.

    Read this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_DD) and rkinze's link
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Wed, 20 November 2013, 14:49:15
    Sorry for this noobish question but is there an in-depth guide on how to program the KBC Poker II I´m struggling to understand the manual... :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 15:03:05
    Quote from: Signature on Wed, 20 November 2013, 14:49:15
    Sorry for this noobish question but is there an in-depth guide on how to program the KBC Poker II I´m struggling to understand the manual... :-[

    I usually just direct people to the manual. There's no guide and I don't own a Poker II. Hopefully someone can help you out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:54:08
    Can anyone explain what a "plate" does?

    I recently bought a Poker II and was just browsing around for a replacement case for it, and saw that there were also plates sold. They look like they should be placed around the switches above everything else, but it looks like my keyboard already has a metal backplate on it (the Poker). Can anyone explain what exactly the plate does, how it's installed, and whether or not it would be compatible with a Poker II?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:01:46
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:54:08
    1) Can anyone explain what a "plate" does?

    I recently bought a Poker II and was just browsing around for a replacement case for it, and saw that there were also plates sold. They look like they should be placed around the switches above everything else, but it looks like my keyboard already has a metal backplate on it (the Poker). Can anyone explain what exactly the plate does, how it's installed, and whether or not it would be compatible with a Poker II?

    (http://i55.tinypic.com/1eq2xd.jpg)
    (from this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19613.0))
    Metal thing is a plate, Blue underneath is the PCB. The whole thing would fit inside your case.

    Your Poker II is already plate mounted.

    (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg)
    (from here (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/computing/keyboards/the-phantom/attachment/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1/))
    When you take off the keycaps, is it black/metallic looking like the top or filled with electronic circuitry like the bottom. Top means you have a plate mounted switches, bottom is PCB mounted switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:10:25
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:54:08
    Can anyone explain what a "plate" does?

    I recently bought a Poker II and was just browsing around for a replacement case for it, and saw that there were also plates sold. They look like they should be placed around the switches above everything else, but it looks like my keyboard already has a metal backplate on it (the Poker). Can anyone explain what exactly the plate does, how it's installed, and whether or not it would be compatible with a Poker II?

    Just as a small addition to CPT's answer:

    The main purpose of a plate is to stabilize PCB. It could also be used for better LED effect. The use of plate changes your typing experience very much and personally I perfer typing withou plate (at least for linear switches).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:01:46
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:54:08
    1) Can anyone explain what a "plate" does?

    I recently bought a Poker II and was just browsing around for a replacement case for it, and saw that there were also plates sold. They look like they should be placed around the switches above everything else, but it looks like my keyboard already has a metal backplate on it (the Poker). Can anyone explain what exactly the plate does, how it's installed, and whether or not it would be compatible with a Poker II?

    Show Image
    (http://i55.tinypic.com/1eq2xd.jpg)

    (from this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19613.0))
    Metal thing is a plate, Blue underneath is the PCB. The whole thing would fit inside your case.

    Your Poker II is already plate mounted.

    Show Image
    (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg)

    (from here (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/computing/keyboards/the-phantom/attachment/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1/))
    When you take off the keycaps, is it black/metallic looking like the top or filled with electronic circuitry like the bottom. Top means you have a plate mounted switches, bottom is PCB mounted switches.

    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted - the PCB is directly visible under the keycaps...? (Is that what PCB-mounted means? Or perhaps I'm interpreting it wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:38:31
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted?

    Yes. There are plate and PCB mounted keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:45:47
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:01:46
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:54:08
    1) Can anyone explain what a "plate" does?

    I recently bought a Poker II and was just browsing around for a replacement case for it, and saw that there were also plates sold. They look like they should be placed around the switches above everything else, but it looks like my keyboard already has a metal backplate on it (the Poker). Can anyone explain what exactly the plate does, how it's installed, and whether or not it would be compatible with a Poker II?

    Show Image
    (http://i55.tinypic.com/1eq2xd.jpg)

    (from this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19613.0))
    Metal thing is a plate, Blue underneath is the PCB. The whole thing would fit inside your case.

    Your Poker II is already plate mounted.

    Show Image
    (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg)

    (from here (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/computing/keyboards/the-phantom/attachment/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1/))
    When you take off the keycaps, is it black/metallic looking like the top or filled with electronic circuitry like the bottom. Top means you have a plate mounted switches, bottom is PCB mounted switches.

    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted - the PCB is directly visible under the keycaps...? (Is that what PCB-mounted means? Or perhaps I'm interpreting it wrong.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know, 'PCB-mounted' usually refers to switches and stabilizers. There are two types of switches, PCB mounted and plate mounted. Although it does not have to be this way, by PCB mounted switches, it means those switches have five legs, and three for plate mounted switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:52:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:38:31
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted?

    Yes. There are plate and PCB mounted keyboards.

    And, for the sake of completeness, there is case-mounted too, where the top part of the case acts as the plate (e.g. HHKB Pro 2).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 November 2013, 22:00:45
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:45:47
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:01:46
    Show Image
    Show Image
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:54:08
    1) Can anyone explain what a "plate" does?

    I recently bought a Poker II and was just browsing around for a replacement case for it, and saw that there were also plates sold. They look like they should be placed around the switches above everything else, but it looks like my keyboard already has a metal backplate on it (the Poker). Can anyone explain what exactly the plate does, how it's installed, and whether or not it would be compatible with a Poker II?

    (http://i55.tinypic.com/1eq2xd.jpg) (http://i55.tinypic.com/1eq2xd.jpg)

    (from this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19613.0))
    Metal thing is a plate, Blue underneath is the PCB. The whole thing would fit inside your case.

    Your Poker II is already plate mounted.

    (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg) (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg)
    (from here (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/computing/keyboards/the-phantom/attachment/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1/))
    When you take off the keycaps, is it black/metallic looking like the top or filled with electronic circuitry like the bottom. Top means you have a plate mounted switches, bottom is PCB mounted switches.

    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted - the PCB is directly visible under the keycaps...? (Is that what PCB-mounted means? Or perhaps I'm interpreting it wrong.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know, 'PCB-mounted' usually refers to switches and stabilizers. There are two types of switches, PCB mounted and plate mounted. Although it does not have to be this way, by PCB mounted switches, it means those switches have five legs, and three for plate mounted switches.

    Plate mounted switches don't have legs and pcb have two
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 20 November 2013, 22:05:38
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 November 2013, 22:00:45
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:45:47
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:01:46
    Show Image
    Show Image
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:54:08
    1) Can anyone explain what a "plate" does?

    I recently bought a Poker II and was just browsing around for a replacement case for it, and saw that there were also plates sold. They look like they should be placed around the switches above everything else, but it looks like my keyboard already has a metal backplate on it (the Poker). Can anyone explain what exactly the plate does, how it's installed, and whether or not it would be compatible with a Poker II?

    (http://i55.tinypic.com/1eq2xd.jpg) (http://i55.tinypic.com/1eq2xd.jpg)

    (from this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19613.0))
    Metal thing is a plate, Blue underneath is the PCB. The whole thing would fit inside your case.

    Your Poker II is already plate mounted.

    (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg) (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg)
    (from here (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/computing/keyboards/the-phantom/attachment/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1/))
    When you take off the keycaps, is it black/metallic looking like the top or filled with electronic circuitry like the bottom. Top means you have a plate mounted switches, bottom is PCB mounted switches.

    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted - the PCB is directly visible under the keycaps...? (Is that what PCB-mounted means? Or perhaps I'm interpreting it wrong.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know, 'PCB-mounted' usually refers to switches and stabilizers. There are two types of switches, PCB mounted and plate mounted. Although it does not have to be this way, by PCB mounted switches, it means those switches have five legs, and three for plate mounted switches.

    Plate mounted switches don't have legs and pcb have two

    Yes that's what I mean. I was taking 'legs', the metal polars and the center leg all as 'leg' lol. That's why those switches are called 3-legged switches and 5-legged swtiches in China and I'm struggling to learn the English equivalent of that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 November 2013, 22:06:56
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Wed, 20 November 2013, 22:05:38
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 November 2013, 22:00:45
    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:45:47
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:01:46
    Show Image
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    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 20:54:08
    1) Can anyone explain what a "plate" does?

    I recently bought a Poker II and was just browsing around for a replacement case for it, and saw that there were also plates sold. They look like they should be placed around the switches above everything else, but it looks like my keyboard already has a metal backplate on it (the Poker). Can anyone explain what exactly the plate does, how it's installed, and whether or not it would be compatible with a Poker II?

    (http://i55.tinypic.com/1eq2xd.jpg) (http://i55.tinypic.com/1eq2xd.jpg)

    (from this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19613.0))
    Metal thing is a plate, Blue underneath is the PCB. The whole thing would fit inside your case.

    Your Poker II is already plate mounted.

    (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg) (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1.jpg)
    (from here (http://www.knizefamily.net/russ/computing/keyboards/the-phantom/attachment/keyboard-phantom-pcb-plate-1/))
    When you take off the keycaps, is it black/metallic looking like the top or filled with electronic circuitry like the bottom. Top means you have a plate mounted switches, bottom is PCB mounted switches.

    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted - the PCB is directly visible under the keycaps...? (Is that what PCB-mounted means? Or perhaps I'm interpreting it wrong.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know, 'PCB-mounted' usually refers to switches and stabilizers. There are two types of switches, PCB mounted and plate mounted. Although it does not have to be this way, by PCB mounted switches, it means those switches have five legs, and three for plate mounted switches.

    Plate mounted switches don't have legs and pcb have two

    Yes that's what I mean. I was taking 'legs', the metal polars and the center leg all as 'leg' lol. That's why those switches are called 3-legged switches and 5-legged swtiches in China and I'm struggling to learn the English equivalent of that.

    Haha, ok that makes sense!! I'm used to referring to just the two plastic legs PCB mount have that plate mount do not!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:58:41
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:52:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:38:31
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted?

    Yes. There are plate and PCB mounted keyboards.

    And, for the sake of completeness, there is case-mounted too, where the top part of the case acts as the plate (e.g. HHKB Pro 2).

    So do the different mounting types affect the difficulty of changing plates/cases for a keyboard? For example, is it possible to easily replace the plate of a plate mounted keyboard, or the case of a case mounted keyboard? (And do you know what type of mount the Poker II is? From what I could tell of reviews, I think it's PCB mounted, but I'm not sure...)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 21 November 2013, 01:12:42
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:58:41
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:52:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:38:31
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted?

    Yes. There are plate and PCB mounted keyboards.

    And, for the sake of completeness, there is case-mounted too, where the top part of the case acts as the plate (e.g. HHKB Pro 2).

    So do the different mounting types affect the difficulty of changing plates/cases for a keyboard? For example, is it possible to easily replace the plate of a plate mounted keyboard, or the case of a case mounted keyboard? (And do you know what type of mount the Poker II is? From what I could tell of reviews, I think it's PCB mounted, but I'm not sure...)
    Certain custom plates work with certain keyboards.  Say you are building a Phantom and using a QFR or Filco case.  Plates from WFD or The_Beast's GB are compatible.  However one of GON's plates, even though it is 100% size, would not be compatible because of differences in dimensions, mounts, etc...

    Most korean customs such as KMAC, LZ, GON, and others use custom playes specific to that PCB and case.

    Hope this helped.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 21 November 2013, 03:34:07
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:58:41
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:52:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:38:31
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 21:34:29
    Ah, thanks for the explanation! So there are keyboards that aren't plate mounted?

    Yes. There are plate and PCB mounted keyboards.

    And, for the sake of completeness, there is case-mounted too, where the top part of the case acts as the plate (e.g. HHKB Pro 2).

    So do the different mounting types affect the difficulty of changing plates/cases for a keyboard? For example, is it possible to easily replace the plate of a plate mounted keyboard, or the case of a case mounted keyboard? (And do you know what type of mount the Poker II is? From what I could tell of reviews, I think it's PCB mounted, but I'm not sure...)

    Possibly the only case-mount board is HHKB.  And there are no replacement case tops (there are rumours of a limited edition aluminium one, but you might as well look for a complete collection of Clacks before you could find, or afford, one of those).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 21 November 2013, 05:12:10
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:58:41
    And do you know what type of mount the Poker II is? From what I could tell of reviews, I think it's PCB mounted, but I'm not sure...

    The Poker 2 is plate mounted as Captain already said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhineasRex on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:05:22
    Where can I buy a Ducky Shine 9087 with clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:08:57
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:05:22
    Where can I buy a Ducky Shine 9087 with clears?

    Because they don't make one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:11:30
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:08:57
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:05:22
    Where can I buy a Ducky Shine 9087 with clears?

    Because they don't make one?

    I concur you would probably have to buy the board you want and then the switches separate and mod the board.  Clears seem to be the most rare of the common wanted switches from what I have seen
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhineasRex on Thu, 21 November 2013, 21:06:45
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:08:57
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:05:22
    Where can I buy a Ducky Shine 9087 with clears?

    Because they don't make one?

    They make the 108-key version with clears but not the tkl?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 November 2013, 21:11:09
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 21 November 2013, 21:06:45
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:08:57
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:05:22
    Where can I buy a Ducky Shine 9087 with clears?

    Because they don't make one?

    They make the 108-key version with clears but not the tkl?

    Seems like this is the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 21:18:06
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 21 November 2013, 21:06:45
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:08:57
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Thu, 21 November 2013, 10:05:22
    Where can I buy a Ducky Shine 9087 with clears?

    Because they don't make one?

    They make the 108-key version with clears but not the tkl?

    I've only seen the shine 2 with clears.

    No new ducky models so far have clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Arbalest on Fri, 22 November 2013, 11:45:07
    I came here looking for a comprehensive list of some sort.  The link to the list of compact keyboards is a step in that direction but it seems that many questions on this site could be answered by a big list (perhaps a WIKI) such as:

    (note that this list should be of stock boards, omitting modding, DIY and kits)
    (each might have a +/- vote tallys for each entry),
    (some lists would do well to have a reason-for-use/pro/con preamble)

    1) Common boards with Cherry MX switches
    2) Common boards with Topre switches
    ?) Common boards with other types of mechanical switch
    3) ...Full sized boards
    4) ...TKL
    5) ...75%
    6) ...60%
    7) ...25% (just kidding)
    7+1 to get rid of the emoticon) list of characteristics of all common switch types (general description, pro/con)
    9) Ergonomic board list (with pro/con)
    10) Matrix layout boards
    11) Board selection decision-tree/flow-chart
    12) Boards with actual application/menu key  (my own recently posted question)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 November 2013, 11:48:35
    Quote from: Arbalest on Fri, 22 November 2013, 11:45:07
    ... it seems that many questions on this site could be answered by browsing the site and reading forum posts

    FTFY
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Inserity on Fri, 22 November 2013, 11:56:24
    Hello all. Brand new here and I have a question on getting my first mech keyboard. I didn't think it warranted a new thread so I'm posting it here. I have searched the forums but I could not find something like this.

    I was trying to decide between the Max Keyboard Nighthawk and the Ducky Shine 3 and eventually concluded that I would get the Ducky. However, now that Max Keyboard has their Black Friday sale going on, I'm stuck again.

    It comes down to:
    Ducky Shine 3 @ $150~ or
    Max Keyboard Nighthawk @ $100~

    From what I understand, the pros for the Ducky are, overall better build quality, better lighting and 4 extra keys (that I could autohotkey).  And unless I'm missing something, I just don't think that's worth an extra $50.

    If someone can assist me with higher knowledge and experience, that would be great. Is the Max Keyboard good at that price for my first mech?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Arbalest on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:00:12
    @jdcarpe -- Then why have a FAQ at all?

    As a matter of fact, I have been browsing for days trying to get answers to similar questions, filing in my own list as I go, but I still keep coming up with gaps and contradictions.  Even the list of compact keyboards does not separate the individual sub-categories.

    Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule for adding some snark to my suggestion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:03:36
    Quote from: Arbalest on Fri, 22 November 2013, 11:45:07
    I came here looking for a comprehensive list of some sort.  The link to the list of compact keyboards is a step in that direction but it seems that many questions on this site could be answered by a big list (perhaps a WIKI) such as:

    (note that this list should be of stock boards, omitting modding, DIY and kits)
    (each might have a +/- vote tallys for each entry),
    (some lists would do well to have a reason-for-use/pro/con preamble)

    1) Common boards with Cherry MX switches
    2) Common boards with Topre switches
    ?) Common boards with other types of mechanical switch
    3) ...Full sized boards
    4) ...TKL
    5) ...75%
    6) ...60%
    7) ...25% (just kidding)
    7+1 to get rid of the emoticon) list of characteristics of all common switch types (general description, pro/con)
    9) Ergonomic board list (with pro/con)
    10) Matrix layout boards
    11) Board selection decision-tree/flow-chart
    12) Boards with actual application/menu key  (my own recently posted question)

    You're not the first person to suggest this but I'm not eager to make that list. It's going to take a lot time to compile. And we're not here to hand-hold.

    Quote from: Arbalest on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:00:12
    Then why have a FAQ at all?

    As a matter of fact, I have been browsing for days trying to get answers to similar questions, filing in my own list as I go, but I still keep coming up with gaps and contradictions.  Even the list of compact keyboards does not separate the individual sub-categories.

    This site has been around since '07 and there wasn't an FAQ until June-ish of this year. Just something I decided to provide. I don't think a comprehensive list would help. What specific questions do you have that you think a list would solve?


    Quote from: Inserity on Fri, 22 November 2013, 11:56:24
    Hello all. Brand new here and I have a question on getting my first mech keyboard. I didn't think it warranted a new thread so I'm posting it here. I have searched the forums but I could not find something like this.

    I was trying to decide between the Max Keyboard Nighthawk and the Ducky Shine 3 and eventually concluded that I would get the Ducky. However, now that Max Keyboard has their Black Friday sale going on, I'm stuck again.

    It comes down to:
    Ducky Shine 3 @ $150~ or
    Max Keyboard Nighthawk @ $100~

    From what I understand, the pros for the Ducky are, overall better build quality, better lighting and 4 extra keys (that I could autohotkey).  And unless I'm missing something, I just don't think that's worth an extra $50.

    If someone can assist me with higher knowledge and experience, that would be great. Is the Max Keyboard good at that price for my first mech?

    Subjective. If you like the Max, get it. If not, get the Ducky. I wouldn't suggest the Max but I've heard very little about it. I think it's an iOne board; which seems to have very low reputation here. I'm sure others who own it will give you a better opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Inserity on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:16:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:03:36
    Subjective. If you like the Max, get it. If not, get the Ducky. I wouldn't suggest the Max but I've heard very little about it. I think it's an iOne board; which seems to have very low reputation here. I'm sure others who own it will give you a better opinion.
    Thanks for your input. I have heard that iOne isn't very good, but the Max Keyboards are different? This thread mentions that http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37861.0

    But they don't seem anywhere near as popular as Ducky here.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:19:42
    Quote from: Inserity on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:16:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:03:36
    Subjective. If you like the Max, get it. If not, get the Ducky. I wouldn't suggest the Max but I've heard very little about it. I think it's an iOne board; which seems to have very low reputation here. I'm sure others who own it will give you a better opinion.
    Thanks for your input. I have heard that iOne isn't very good, but the Max Keyboards are different? This thread mentions that http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37861.0

    But they don't seem anywhere near as popular as Ducky here.

    I don't own a Max or a Ducky so I don't have any firsthand experience that I could offer you unfortunately. I can't tell if the Duckys are just easier to get in the USA and that's why they're popular or if they're actually "better" than the Max for a reason. From the StarCraft streams I've seen, it seems the Max is more popular in Europe. But that's really all I got. And it seems you're right about the Max Keyboards....hm...now I'm also curious to hear someone's opinion on a Max vs a Ducky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Arbalest on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:47:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:03:36
    You're not the first person to suggest this but I'm not eager to make that list. It's going to take a lot time to compile. And we're not here to hand-hold.

    This site has been around since '07 and there wasn't an FAQ until June-ish of this year. Just something I decided to provide. I don't think a comprehensive list would help. What specific questions do you have that you think a list would solve?


    1) I am offering a suggestion -- and I get it, you don't like the suggestion. I read the rules and guidelines before I posted this - and I now, making it a discussion is in conflict with that so this will be my post regarding this.

    2) This is a FAQ thread already and your original post says:
                 Ever wanted a thread that a lot of random info in one place? This thread could become that.

    3) I am not asking for hand-holding, often FAQs are implemented to get around hand-holding.

    4) I realize it is a lot of work.  I would contribute (if I knew anything) but this is why I suggested a WIKI. And yes I know that setting up a WIKI and keeping it clean is more work.

    5) Re: Specific question - I don't . Earlier today I read about Topre and came here looking to see if someone had posted a list of Topre boards.  I did not find one so I searched "Topre" and there was 6 pages of results but the gem was on page 4 by user daerid.  That was behind adding a comprehensive list to the FAQ.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:53:39
    Quote from: Arbalest on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:47:55
    1) I am offering a suggestion -- and I get it, you don't like the suggestion. I read the rules and guidelines before I posted this - and I now, making it a discussion is in conflict with that so this will be my post regarding this.

    2) I realize it is a lot of work.  I would contribute (if I knew anything) but this is why I suggested a WIKI. And yes I know that setting up a WIKI and keeping it clean is more work.

    3) Re: Specific question - I don't . Earlier today I read about Topre and came here looking to see if someone had posted a list of Topre boards.  I did not find one so I searched "Topre" and there was 6 pages of results but the gem was on page 4 by user daerid.  That was behind adding a comprehensive list to the FAQ.

    1 and 2) If you'd like to discuss this further, that's fine with me. Just not here. Instead please check this thread out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49522.0). And we can talk about it there.

    3) The DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Keyboards_with_Topre_switches) seems to have a nice list of what you're looking for. If you'd like to talk about that just bring it up in the thread I mentioned above. I can also add that to the OP if you think that would help others in the future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 November 2013, 13:51:29
    Quote from: Arbalest on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:00:12
    Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule for adding some snark to my suggestion.

    You're welcome!


    Quote from: Arbalest on Fri, 22 November 2013, 12:47:55
    1) I am offering a suggestion -- and I get it, you don't like the suggestion. I read the rules and guidelines before I posted this - and I now, making it a discussion is in conflict with that so this will be my post regarding this.

    2) This is a FAQ thread already and your original post says:
                 Ever wanted a thread that a lot of random info in one place? This thread could become that.

    3) I am not asking for hand-holding, often FAQs are implemented to get around hand-holding.

    4) I realize it is a lot of work.  I would contribute (if I knew anything) but this is why I suggested a WIKI. And yes I know that setting up a WIKI and keeping it clean is more work.

    5) Re: Specific question - I don't . Earlier today I read about Topre and came here looking to see if someone had posted a list of Topre boards.  I did not find one so I searched "Topre" and there was 6 pages of results but the gem was on page 4 by user daerid.  That was behind adding a comprehensive list to the FAQ.

    It seemed like you were asking for hand-holding. You spent some time to make that list of things you would like to see a list of, but then you suggest that we make it for you, or make a wiki with that info.

    If you had gone one step further, and made a new topic with that info, or even said that you were willing to do it, you wouldn't have received the responses you did. We are more than willing to help fill in the gaps, but you should go a little further than saying "I want this -- make it happen." If you are willing to do the work of setting up the list how you envision it, we can help you make it complete.

    One thing you will find is that Google is your friend when it comes to searching for information here. Search Google for: [search string] site:geekhack.org

    Also, Google image search can help you, as well. For instance, if you want to know if a certain keyboard has a app/menu key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: moogle on Fri, 22 November 2013, 21:20:11
    how to program a kmac using mac os x?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:03:09
    Quote from: moogle on Fri, 22 November 2013, 21:20:11
    how to program a kmac using mac os x?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.028
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:06:04
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:03:09
    Quote from: moogle on Fri, 22 November 2013, 21:20:11
    how to program a kmac using mac os x?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.028

    That's for Windows though yeah? I don't actually know if the Mac process is different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: moogle on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:08:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:06:04
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:03:09
    Quote from: moogle on Fri, 22 November 2013, 21:20:11
    how to program a kmac using mac os x?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.028

    That's for Windows though yeah?

    yeah, that's for windows; looking for a way to do it on a mac without virtualization software, but i don't think it's possible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alosec on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:31:53
    is the hue of the 3D clack the same as the case/caps on the realforce 87u?
    Title: _
    Post by: moogle on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:35:54
    _
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:52:05
    Quote from: alosec on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:31:53
    is the hue of the 3D clack the same as the case/caps on the realforce 87u?

    (http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j379/josh6135/clackfactorysideview.jpg)
    (http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j379/josh6135/clackfactory.jpg)
    From josh6135 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg629999#msg629999)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alosec on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:53:14
    darn :( dreams are crushed. do you guys know of any other clacks that are the same hue as a realforce board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mr. C on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:54:07
    Is there a "Sticky" on how to post a picture in a post?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 22 November 2013, 23:00:16
    Quote from: Mr. C on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:54:07
    Is there a "Sticky" on how to post a picture in a post?
    Just post the image URL, highlight it and click the image logo under the bold logo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 22 November 2013, 23:00:33
    Quote from: Mr. C on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:54:07
    Is there a "Sticky" on how to post a picture in a post?

    [ img ] [/ img ]

    Without the spaces.  It's standard bbcode.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 November 2013, 23:12:34
    Quote from: alosec on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:53:14
    darn :( dreams are crushed. do you guys know of any other clacks that are the same hue as a realforce board?

    (http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o580/eth0sz/AlltheClacks2.jpg)
    From eth0s (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1130786#msg1130786)

    One of the Whites in the bottom right? No I don't know what they're called. You can talk to eth0s though.


    Quote from: Mr. C on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:54:07
    Is there a "Sticky" on how to post a picture in a post?

    Code: [Select]
    [img]<yourimageurlhere>[/img]

    When you make a post, under the bold button, there's a little black and yellow button. Click on that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 03:20:56
    Quote from: alosec on Fri, 22 November 2013, 22:53:14
    darn :( dreams are crushed. do you guys know of any other clacks that are the same hue as a realforce board?

    Maybe Depth Ghost or Milk White.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 24 November 2013, 13:49:08
    can egrodox use ps/2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 November 2013, 14:55:29
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 24 November 2013, 13:49:08
    can egrodox use ps/2?

    Probably. Most USB keyboards can be run through a PS/2 adapter no problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:34:22
    I have 2 questions.

    First one is how likely is it for my keyboard to die after I open it up, voiding the warranty?

    Second is is the non backlit keycool 84's PCB have holes for LEDs, ie does it use the same PCB as the keycool 84 with backlighting?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:39:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:34:22
    I have 2 questions.

    First one is how likely is it for my keyboard to die after I open it up, voiding the warranty?

    Second is is the non backlit keycool 84's PCB have holes for LEDs, ie does it use the same PCB as the keycool 84 with backlighting?

    1) I voided the warranty on my Filco about 6 months ago. Haven't had any issues. Dont think opening a keyboard up and voiding the warranty means its instantly going to fail.

    2) Probably the same PCB. Easier/cheaper for the comapny to just use 1 PCB for both models. Poker 2 is like that. There's holes for the LEDs in the PCBs even though there's no backlit version yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:41:04
    Does anyone know if KBDMOD ships to the US?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:42:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:39:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:34:22
    I have 2 questions.

    First one is how likely is it for my keyboard to die after I open it up, voiding the warranty?

    Second is is the non backlit keycool 84's PCB have holes for LEDs, ie does it use the same PCB as the keycool 84 with backlighting?

    1) I voided the warranty on my Filco about 6 months ago. Haven't had any issues. Dont think opening a keyboard up and voiding the warranty means its instantly going to fail.

    2) Probably the same PCB. Easier/cheaper for the comapny to just use 1 PCB for both models. Poker 2 is like that. There's holes for the LEDs in the PCBs even though there's no backlit version yet.

    That's what I thought. Time to buy some LED's!

    Also if I just solder in LED's, I don't need to do anything else and they will work, right?

    EDIT: Opened up keycool 84, no holes in PCB for LEDs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 24 November 2013, 19:09:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:42:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:39:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:34:22
    I have 2 questions.

    First one is how likely is it for my keyboard to die after I open it up, voiding the warranty?

    Second is is the non backlit keycool 84's PCB have holes for LEDs, ie does it use the same PCB as the keycool 84 with backlighting?

    1) I voided the warranty on my Filco about 6 months ago. Haven't had any issues. Dont think opening a keyboard up and voiding the warranty means its instantly going to fail.

    2) Probably the same PCB. Easier/cheaper for the comapny to just use 1 PCB for both models. Poker 2 is like that. There's holes for the LEDs in the PCBs even though there's no backlit version yet.

    That's what I thought. Time to buy some LED's!

    Also if I just solder in LED's, I don't need to do anything else and they will work, right?

    EDIT: Opened up keycool 84, no holes in PCB for LEDs

    I believe the only other thing you will have to install is the resistor/s but I have no idea what size.

    Edit:  Question of my own.  Is the 5 volt power from USB enough to power full sized keyboard back lighting?  Not looking for any funky lighting modes like in some of the Duckys but just want on / off for the whole keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 10:53:29
    I'm looking for an answer to a theoretical situation regarding diodes on a PCB.  If one or two are installed incorrectly (reversed orientation), will those switches not work at all, or will there be issues with incorrect keystroke registration instead?  Or any other symptoms?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:09:12
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 10:53:29
    I'm looking for an answer to a theoretical situation regarding diodes on a PCB.  If one or two are installed incorrectly (reversed orientation), will those switches not work at all, or will there be issues with incorrect keystroke registration instead?  Or any other symptoms?

    At minimum those keys will just not register.  I am not sure how it would affect the rest of the switches in that row/column.  I suppose that might depend on how the matrix is setup.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:10:06
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:09:12
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 10:53:29
    I'm looking for an answer to a theoretical situation regarding diodes on a PCB.  If one or two are installed incorrectly (reversed orientation), will those switches not work at all, or will there be issues with incorrect keystroke registration instead?  Or any other symptoms?

    At minimum those keys will just not register.  I am not sure how it would affect the rest of the switches in that row/column.  I suppose that might depend on how the matrix is setup.

    Okay, so it wouldn't be a subtle effect, akin to debounce errors?  Just trying to rule that out as an explanation to key registration errors that look like they come from poor debounce handling.  It's most likely the latter, but I'm making sure...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:30:45
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:10:06
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:09:12
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 10:53:29
    I'm looking for an answer to a theoretical situation regarding diodes on a PCB.  If one or two are installed incorrectly (reversed orientation), will those switches not work at all, or will there be issues with incorrect keystroke registration instead?  Or any other symptoms?

    At minimum those keys will just not register.  I am not sure how it would affect the rest of the switches in that row/column.  I suppose that might depend on how the matrix is setup.

    Okay, so it wouldn't be a subtle effect, akin to debounce errors?  Just trying to rule that out as an explanation to key registration errors that look like they come from poor debounce handling.  It's most likely the latter, but I'm making sure...

    It would def not be anything subtle due to the function of the diode.  Essentially they are a one way check valve for electricity.  Blocking it from traveling in the wrong direction.  So if it is installed backwards you would have 2 diodes in the same trace path blocking each other. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:32:04
    Thanks very much!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:36:35
    Not a problem.  Now to figure out if USB power will have enough horsepower to run a full sized keyboard worth of LED's.  If it helps they are blue rated for 3.4 volts.

    Debating on adding full backlighting to my Das and supplying power from the internal USB hub and using a modded small USB thumb drive for the switch.  Possibly attempting to figure out if I can get them all to either be on steady or the pulse/breathing effect by swapping different modded usb thumb drives.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:07:24
    Full-sized Ducky keyboards have no issues with full backlight and white LEDs (also 3V+).  Didn't have any problems with my CM Storm Trigger, which had additional macro keys that were also backlit.  You're probably fine with that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:10:09
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:07:24
    Full-sized Ducky keyboards have no issues with full backlight and white LEDs (also 3V+).  Didn't have any problems with my CM Storm Trigger, which had additional macro keys that were also backlit.  You're probably fine with that.

    Cool thanks photo.  I would assume wired in parallel then?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:17:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:10:09
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:07:24
    Full-sized Ducky keyboards have no issues with full backlight and white LEDs (also 3V+).  Didn't have any problems with my CM Storm Trigger, which had additional macro keys that were also backlit.  You're probably fine with that.

    Cool thanks photo.  I would assume wired in parallel then?

    Not sure, seems like they are going in series top-down, based on these photos of a Ducky Shine PCB (side-to-side would be in parallel)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50784.msg1112489#msg1112489
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48250.msg1074653#msg1074653

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:46:29
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:17:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:10:09
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:07:24
    Full-sized Ducky keyboards have no issues with full backlight and white LEDs (also 3V+).  Didn't have any problems with my CM Storm Trigger, which had additional macro keys that were also backlit.  You're probably fine with that.

    Cool thanks photo.  I would assume wired in parallel then?

    Not sure, seems like they are going in series top-down, based on these photos of a Ducky Shine PCB (side-to-side would be in parallel)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50784.msg1112489#msg1112489
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48250.msg1074653#msg1074653

    It appears to me that they are parallel.  Correct me if I am wrong but series would be connecting + on one LED to - on the next and from that + to the next -.  And parallel would be - to - to - and + to + to +.  In pic 5 on the first link it looks like the traces are - to - to -.  Can't really see the + trace due to probable different layer in the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolonelkadat on Mon, 25 November 2013, 13:03:39
    Are you sure they arent matrixed or charlieplexed? I dont think driving all the LEDs at once is a good idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 25 November 2013, 13:06:33
    Quote from: kolonelkadat on Mon, 25 November 2013, 13:03:39
    Are you sure they arent matrixed or charlieplexed? I dont think driving all the LEDs at once is a good idea.

    I have no idea.  All I really know is standard USB 2.0 is 5 volt at 500mA or 1000mA depending on the board.  Also I have no idea what charlieplexed is and not sure what difference being matrixed would do differently unless that is just a single word term for wiring them in a combination of series and parallel.  I am not an electronics guy by nature. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Mon, 25 November 2013, 17:56:47
    Is there a way to get the stabilizer pieces (costar) to stay in the keys better? Mine keep falling out on one of my keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 25 November 2013, 18:00:04
    Quote from: Keytrun on Mon, 25 November 2013, 17:56:47
    Is there a way to get the stabilizer pieces (costar) to stay in the keys better? Mine keep falling out on one of my keys.

    put a piece of tape over it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kayliss on Mon, 25 November 2013, 18:51:00
    Can anyone tell me where these come from originally?

    (http://i.imgur.com/ntj9hoG.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 25 November 2013, 19:40:30
    Quote from: Kayliss on Mon, 25 November 2013, 18:51:00
    Can anyone tell me where these come from originally?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ntj9hoG.jpg)


    i3oilermaker had them made. Weezer caps. :)

    The first batch turned out too thin, so he had them fixed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kayliss on Mon, 25 November 2013, 19:41:52
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 25 November 2013, 19:40:30

    i3oilermaker had them made. Weezer caps. :)

    The first batch turned out too thin, so he had them fixed.

    Great thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 November 2013, 20:02:14
    Quote from: Keytrun on Mon, 25 November 2013, 17:56:47
    Is there a way to get the stabilizer pieces (costar) to stay in the keys better? Mine keep falling out on one of my keys.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_YY
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Mon, 25 November 2013, 22:24:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 November 2013, 20:02:14
    Quote from: Keytrun on Mon, 25 November 2013, 17:56:47
    Is there a way to get the stabilizer pieces (costar) to stay in the keys better? Mine keep falling out on one of my keys.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_YY

    I'll try using a little piece of plastic bag. Thank you so much!

    Also - I love my filco! I didn't realize how amazing this thing would be. I'm not sure why people buy alumium cases for these things - they're already so damn sturdy! When I had my black widow I just assumed that all plastic keyboards were flimsy and crappy but this is on a whole different level! Does anyone know if the filco is made from ABS or PBT plastic? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 November 2013, 23:31:31
    Why is there never Topre or Alps GBs? Is the Topre design proprietary therefor places like SP or GMK aren't allowed to produce them/there's some exorbitant fee? Or is it a matter of cap makers not having Topre or Alps molds? I'm pretty sure SP has Alps molds, is it because the GB demand would be to low to garner interest to make it worth producing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 25 November 2013, 23:40:24
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 November 2013, 23:31:31
    Why is there never Topre or Alps GBs? Is the Topre design proprietary therefor places like SP or GMK aren't allowed to produce them/there's some exorbitant fee? Or is it a matter of cap makers not having Topre or Alps molds? I'm pretty sure SP has Alps molds, is it because the GB demand would be to low to garner interest to make it worth producing?

    Topre - Not a lot of companies have the molds for Topre keycaps and I'm sure the only company that would do it isn't interested. Hard to say though because I've never tried.

    ALPS - You are correct about this one. On top of lack of interest there are so many different configurations for ALPS keyboards that it would make putting the GB together extremely difficult.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 November 2013, 23:47:57
    That's a shame. Even one coordinated Alps GB colab with DT would be epic, if not only to say that it happened.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 26 November 2013, 00:04:36
    Do the wire stabs come out of the little black plastic pieces on the filco? I can't get them out. For that matter, do the black plastic pieces that hold the wire come out? I can't get them out either.'

    EDIT: I'm curious: are keyboard switches supposed to be a little "stiffer" when you first get the keyboard? I feel like my keys are a little "stiff". Any ideas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 26 November 2013, 00:18:15
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 November 2013, 23:47:57
    That's a shame. Even one coordinated Alps GB colab with DT would be epic, if not only to say that it happened.

    There's been an ALPS buy that has been in the interest check stage for a while now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ch0nG on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:37:48
    How do you reprogram an already setup Ergodox?

    I have the keyboard plugged in, I ran the Teensy loader and selected the Hex file I got from Massdrop's configurator. I click "Auto" and then nothing happens. The Verbose output on Teensy loader says (I renamed the hex file):
    00:27:19: Teensy Loader 1.15, begin program
    00:27:19: File "colemak.hex". 9012 bytes, 28% used
    00:27:19: Listening for remote control on port 3149
    00:27:19: initialized, showing main window
    00:27:31: Verbose Info event
    00:27:41: Auto Button event
    00:27:41: Auto mode: enabled

    Nothing else appeared to happen after that, I even had it sit for 10 minutes. Does it normally take long to reprogram it? Or am I just doing something wrong?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:57:23
    Quote from: Ch0nG on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:37:48
    How do you reprogram an already setup Ergodox?

    I have the keyboard plugged in, I ran the Teensy loader and selected the Hex file I got from Massdrop's configurator. I click "Auto" and then nothing happens. The Verbose output on Teensy loader says (I renamed the hex file):
    00:27:19: Teensy Loader 1.15, begin program
    00:27:19: File "colemak.hex". 9012 bytes, 28% used
    00:27:19: Listening for remote control on port 3149
    00:27:19: initialized, showing main window
    00:27:31: Verbose Info event
    00:27:41: Auto Button event
    00:27:41: Auto mode: enabled

    Nothing else appeared to happen after that, I even had it sit for 10 minutes. Does it normally take long to reprogram it? Or am I just doing something wrong?

    I normally hit the teensy button (there should be one programmed in if the previous owner didn't change the layout too much, if not, press the physical button on the teensy) before I go into automode. Programming it should take less than 2 seconds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:58:15
    Is there a way to set up media keys on a Filco? Is there a way to change the windows key into a function key so I can use things like fn+f11 / f12 for volume down / up?

    Edit: I found Autohotkey and this seems to work fine. Anyone know if it takes a lot of resources / creates any issues? I've got ctl + arrow keys set up for my media controls.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 26 November 2013, 05:10:44
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:58:15
    Is there a way to set up media keys on a Filco? Is there a way to change the windows key into a function key so I can use things like fn+f11 / f12 for volume down / up?

    Edit: I found Autohotkey and this seems to work fine. Anyone know if it takes a lot of resources / creates any issues? I've got ctl + arrow keys set up for my media controls.

    As far as I know the only issue with AHK is the lack of Mac compatibility.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 November 2013, 07:04:48
    Quote from: Keytrun on Mon, 25 November 2013, 22:24:45
    Does anyone know if the filco is made from ABS or PBT plastic? Thanks!

    Think the body is ABS. Caps are ABS.

    Quote from: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 November 2013, 23:31:31
    Why is there never Topre or Alps GBs? Is the Topre design proprietary therefor places like SP or GMK aren't allowed to produce them/there's some exorbitant fee? Or is it a matter of cap makers not having Topre or Alps molds? I'm pretty sure SP has Alps molds, is it because the GB demand would be to low to garner interest to make it worth producing?

    Topre has some kind of contracting or something? There's some form of legality that is blocking Topre GBs, I think. I never quite understood it.

    SP has *some* Alps molds but as I understand it, there's been a lot of missing molds. Calavera has an IC open for Alps keycaps and discovered that SP had some molds missing. Also there are so many different Alps setups with all the keyboards. For example, a set that would fit a FK-2001 wouldn't fit a Dell AT101W and those sets wouldn't fit on a Ducky 1087XM. Some company would have to have so many different molds and it seems that that vareity of molds has gone away. That being said, Matias is working on Alps compatible keycaps and has said they're doing a 60% Alps GB. Sprit has suggested he's doing a TKL/75%/60% Alps GB with compatible cases as well. And in general, I think there's low interest in Topre/Alps stuff.

    Edit: Apparently Topre has exclusive manufacturing rights or something? Check out this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51337.msg1134793#msg1134793) from EliteKeyboards.

    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 26 November 2013, 00:04:36
    I'm curious: are keyboard switches supposed to be a little "stiffer" when you first get the keyboard? I feel like my keys are a little "stiff". Any ideas?

    The switches need to wear in. They'll be a little stiff for now.

    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:58:15
    I found Autohotkey and this seems to work fine. Anyone know if it takes a lot of resources / creates any issues?

    AHK will work fine. Maybe people on the forum use it to remap their keyboards without issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 26 November 2013, 09:34:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 26 November 2013, 05:10:44
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:58:15
    Is there a way to set up media keys on a Filco? Is there a way to change the windows key into a function key so I can use things like fn+f11 / f12 for volume down / up?

    Edit: I found Autohotkey and this seems to work fine. Anyone know if it takes a lot of resources / creates any issues? I've got ctl + arrow keys set up for my media controls.

    As far as I know the only issue with AHK is the lack of Mac compatibility.

    On my Mac I use KeyRemap4MacBook and it works pretty well...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 11:47:36
    How much would it cost to ship 3 keycaps to the UK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 November 2013, 11:51:37
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 11:47:36
    How much would it cost to ship 3 keycaps to the UK?

    Last time I sent a small package to the UK, I think it had a handful of caps and o-rings, it cost around $6-8 from the USA. I usually ship from the Post Office itself and not online. USPS should have a calculator as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ch0nG on Tue, 26 November 2013, 12:30:01
    Quote from: Larken on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:57:23
    I normally hit the teensy button (there should be one programmed in if the previous owner didn't change the layout too much, if not, press the physical button on the teensy) before I go into automode. Programming it should take less than 2 seconds.

    Thank you for the assistance. The layout had a Teensy button but I don't think I was utilizing it properly. I just pushed physical button on the Teensy after loading the layout then clicked "Auto" and it programmed the board. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:50:43
    Just got my NIB PS2 g80-11900. First time using PS2 on my MSI motherboard, and its not registering. Any help?

    I'm getting a belkin PS2 to USB converter later, will that help if its the motherboard's problem?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:53:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:50:43
    Just got my NIB PS2 g80-11900. First time using PS2 on my MSI motherboard, and its not registering. Any help?

    I'm getting a belkin PS2 to USB converter later, will that help if its the motherboard's problem?

    Did you restart your computer after you plugged in the keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:53:26
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:50:43
    Just got my NIB PS2 g80-11900. First time using PS2 on my MSI motherboard, and its not registering. Any help?

    I'm getting a belkin PS2 to USB converter later, will that help if its the motherboard's problem?

    Did you restart the PC after connecting to PS/2?



    Edit: One second ninja, CPT? Really?!?!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:54:06
    I beat JD by 1 second. I am the champion.  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:55:21
    For more clarification, PS/2 isn't hot-swappable, thus you can't unplug and plug things in on the fly, which is why they said to reboot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:58:21
    Ah. Thanks for all the help! I'm going to need to reboot later tonight, the desktop is doing some stuff....

    Gotta say, you guys are the best!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:58:28
    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:55:21
    For more clarification, PS/2 isn't hot-swappable, thus you can't unplug and plug things in on the fly, which is why they said to reboot.

    I thought PS/2 wasn't plug-n-play capable, I have unplugged and plugged in different PS/2 keyboards when I was testing them. However my computer would have to boot with a PS/2 keyboard in the motherboard when the computer turned on in order to "enable" the PS/2 port.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:58:32
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:00:40
    Another question. Once I get my PS2 to USB cable, do I need to reboot for the keyboard to work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:02:20
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:00:40
    Another question. Once I get my PS2 to USB cable, do I need to reboot for the keyboard to work?

    No, with the PS2-to-USB adapter, you won't have to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:02:28
    It depends on what it is? If it's an active adapter, no. The active adapter will convert the PS/2 signal into a USB HID signal. Thus, it would be like plugging in any other USB keyboard.

    A passive one? I'm not entirely certain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:04:16
    Yeah you're right moose, I shouldve stated that. My adapter is an active one from mkawa.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:06:11
    Its this one:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Belkin-F5U119E-PS2-to-USB-Adapter-Converter-Keyboard-Mouse-Barcode-Scanner-/270962163563
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:07:11
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:06:11
    Its this one:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Belkin-F5U119E-PS2-to-USB-Adapter-Converter-Keyboard-Mouse-Barcode-Scanner-/270962163563

    Pretty sure that's the one that Akimbo sent out with his Model F and it was active.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:08:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:07:11
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:06:11
    Its this one:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Belkin-F5U119E-PS2-to-USB-Adapter-Converter-Keyboard-Mouse-Barcode-Scanner-/270962163563

    Pretty sure that's the one that Akimbo sent out with his Model F and it was active.

    Thanks for the help! Can't wait to get this baby up and running
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:08:54
    Yeah, that looks like an active one. I bought this one at Best Buy, and it's active:

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/usb-to-ps-2-adapter/7334306.p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:40:49
    Has anyone added rubber onto their QFR/Ducky's feet? If so, what did you guy use? I'm tired of having the keyboard slip around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:42:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:40:49
    Has anyone added rubber onto their QFR/Ducky's feet? If so, what did you guy use? I'm tired of having the keyboard slip around.

    Add an aluminum case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:43:42
    Quote from: Dreamre on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:40:49
    Has anyone added rubber onto their QFR/Ducky's feet? If so, what did you guy use? I'm tired of having the keyboard slip around.

    I've used 3M bumpons (http://www.amazon.com/3M-SJ5312-Bumpon-Blister-Clear/dp/B000NG60SW) before for my GHPad and Epsilon. Some people have used BlueLounge Kicks (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1102277#msg1102277) for the HHKB and might work for the QFR.

    Quote from: esoomenona on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:42:30
    Add an aluminum case.

    That would also work lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:45:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 11:47:36
    How much would it cost to ship 3 keycaps to the UK?

    ~$6 in a bubble mailer with tracking
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kgrad5 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 12:31:53
    How would I find out which version of Das keyboard I own? I have a Das Pro model S, I have the box it came in. I believe they changed from costar stabilizers at one point, and quality degraded?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 17:05:52
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 12:31:53
    How would I find out which version of Das keyboard I own? I have a Das Pro model S, I have the box it came in. I believe they changed from costar stabilizers at one point, and quality degraded?
    You should be able to tell what kind of stabilizers you have by feel or pop the space bar off or any other stabilized key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 27 November 2013, 20:09:41
    I'm thinking of buying a KMAC2 off Originative, however I'm not sure where I can source stabilizers for the keyboard. Can anyone lead me to the right direction? Also, are these stabilizers plate or PCB mounted? I'm not sure cause this is a Korean custom board and it looks different to me. Thanks!

    Edit-

    Watched WFD's video and they are indeed PCB mounted. Does anyone know where I can source these stabilizers? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:10:17
    This might get slightly confusing.

    If you have a PCB that supports PCB mounted switches but you are using a plate to mount the switches, do you still need to clip the extra spikes on PCB mounted switches or can you leave them on?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:27:22
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:10:17
    This might get slightly confusing.

    If you have a PCB that supports PCB mounted switches but you are using a plate to mount the switches, do you still need to clip the extra spikes on PCB mounted switches or can you leave them on?

    nope and you get extra support
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:34:45
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 27 November 2013, 20:09:41
    I'm thinking of buying a KMAC2 off Originative, however I'm not sure where I can source stabilizers for the keyboard. Can anyone lead me to the right direction? Also, are these stabilizers plate or PCB mounted? I'm not sure cause this is a Korean custom board and it looks different to me. Thanks!

    Edit-

    Watched WFD's video and they are indeed PCB mounted. Does anyone know where I can source these stabilizers? Thanks!
    All the KMAC keyboards are korean customs, from KBDmania. Custom keyboards can look like anything.

    It's actually an acronym for Keyboard Maniac Attic Craze.

    From the pictures, it looks like KMAC2 supports cherry PCB mount stabilizers. I get all mine from old cherry keyboards I take apart.

    Quote from: kgrad5 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 12:31:53
    How would I find out which version of Das keyboard I own? I have a Das Pro model S, I have the box it came in. I believe they changed from costar stabilizers at one point, and quality degraded?
    Das started with a keytronic as their keyboard OEM, then they switches to cherry when they went mechanical. The next generation used the well-respected Costar as the OEM. I'm not sure what they use now, but the issue is with the entire build not (just) the stabilizers.
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:45:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 11:47:36
    How much would it cost to ship 3 keycaps to the UK?

    ~$6 in a bubble mailer with tracking
    It's actually quite variable now for first class mail  international, and the price goes up after 3 oz or so (3 keycaps and a small bubblemailer should weigh about that) Keep in mind that the tracking is only provided until after it leaves the USA.  After that, the user can sometimes track the package using the customs form number with the local post their country has.

    The USPS postage price calculator says it's $6.16 for a 2 oz package and $8.88 for a 3 oz package
    http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10150&m=6&p=0&o=2
    http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10150&m=6&p=0&o=3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Proc31 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 05:17:16
    I've been looking into buying a board to build myself however I'm a bit confused about stabilisers. I really really like Costar stabs over cherry which means all of the Korean customs seem to be out of the window for me. Is it the plate setup that determines what stabiliser is used or it the pcb setup?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 28 November 2013, 05:27:46
    Quote from: Proc31 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 05:17:16
    I've been looking into buying a board to build myself however I'm a bit confused about stabilisers. I really really like Costar stabs over cherry which means all of the Korean customs seem to be out of the window for me. Is it the plate setup that determines what stabiliser is used or it the pcb setup?

    Cherry stabilizers are great in my opinion if you do the clipping mod and lube them (that's why Koreans prefer them afaik). It depends on both the plate and the PCB which stabilizers you can use. Which board do you want to buy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Proc31 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 06:58:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 28 November 2013, 05:27:46
    Quote from: Proc31 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 05:17:16
    I've been looking into buying a board to build myself however I'm a bit confused about stabilisers. I really really like Costar stabs over cherry which means all of the Korean customs seem to be out of the window for me. Is it the plate setup that determines what stabiliser is used or it the pcb setup?

    Cherry stabilizers are great in my opinion if you do the clipping mod and lube them (that's why Koreans prefer them afaik). It depends on both the plate and the PCB which stabilizers you can use. Which board do you want to buy?

    Maybe that is something I should try. I don't want to shell out a load of money for a KMAC for example and be unhappy with my stabilisers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 November 2013, 07:14:55
    Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:34:45
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 26 November 2013, 15:45:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 26 November 2013, 11:47:36
    How much would it cost to ship 3 keycaps to the UK?

    ~$6 in a bubble mailer with tracking
    It's actually quite variable now for first class mail  international, and the price goes up after 3 oz or so (3 keycaps and a small bubblemailer should weigh about that) Keep in mind that the tracking is only provided until after it leaves the USA.  After that, the user can sometimes track the package using the customs form number with the local post their country has.

    The USPS postage price calculator says it's $6.16 for a 2 oz package and $8.88 for a 3 oz package
    http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10150&m=6&p=0&o=2
    http://ircalc.usps.com/MailServices.aspx?country=10150&m=6&p=0&o=3

    The keycaps I recently sent to UK were tracked all the way to delivery by USPS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kgrad5 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 07:47:11
    Quote from: MJ45 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 17:05:52
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 12:31:53
    How would I find out which version of Das keyboard I own? I have a Das Pro model S, I have the box it came in. I believe they changed from costar stabilizers at one point, and quality degraded?
    You should be able to tell what kind of stabilizers you have by feel or pop the space bar off or any other stabilized key.

    Thanks, just to confirm, this is a costar stabilizer correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 28 November 2013, 08:16:38
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 07:47:11
    Quote from: MJ45 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 17:05:52
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 12:31:53
    How would I find out which version of Das keyboard I own? I have a Das Pro model S, I have the box it came in. I believe they changed from costar stabilizers at one point, and quality degraded?
    You should be able to tell what kind of stabilizers you have by feel or pop the space bar off or any other stabilized key.

    Thanks, just to confirm, this is a costar stabilizer correct?

    Yes those are Costar. Cherry Stabilizers won't have any pieces coming off when you remove the bigger keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kgrad5 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 08:19:56
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Thu, 28 November 2013, 08:16:38
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 07:47:11
    Quote from: MJ45 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 17:05:52
    Quote from: kgrad5 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 12:31:53
    How would I find out which version of Das keyboard I own? I have a Das Pro model S, I have the box it came in. I believe they changed from costar stabilizers at one point, and quality degraded?
    You should be able to tell what kind of stabilizers you have by feel or pop the space bar off or any other stabilized key.

    Thanks, just to confirm, this is a costar stabilizer correct?

    Yes those are Costar. Cherry Stabilizers won't have any pieces coming off when you remove the bigger keycaps.

    Thanks!

    Another question regarding the DAS, I was not around for the "media key fiasco" what are people's complaints about the media keys? I have been searching for information and all I have been able to find is that people don't seem to like the media keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 28 November 2013, 10:01:05
    I've never used a Das Keyboard so I couldn't give you an honest opinion on it, but media keys in general on keyboards are on a Fn layer that is optional. You don't have to use it if you don't want too.

    I did some research on the Das keyboard media keys and it seems that the only real problems people have encountered is them not working over PS2, the audio controls are finicky with different audio devices you are using, and that's about it.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35295.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 10:59:27
    Quote from: Proc31 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 06:58:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 28 November 2013, 05:27:46
    Quote from: Proc31 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 05:17:16
    I've been looking into buying a board to build myself however I'm a bit confused about stabilisers. I really really like Costar stabs over cherry which means all of the Korean customs seem to be out of the window for me. Is it the plate setup that determines what stabiliser is used or it the pcb setup?

    Cherry stabilizers are great in my opinion if you do the clipping mod and lube them (that's why Koreans prefer them afaik). It depends on both the plate and the PCB which stabilizers you can use. Which board do you want to buy?

    Maybe that is something I should try. I don't want to shell out a load of money for a KMAC for example and be unhappy with my stabilisers.
    If you would like to build a custom get a Phantom kit and you'll be able to go ether way with the stabilizers as it supports both types and mod switches without de-soldering. Also the WFD universal plates had that feature also if you wanted to mod a Filco or QFR for less money. (if you your lucky to find them)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 November 2013, 11:34:41
    Not keyboard related and I don't care. Come at me keybros. =P

    I have a simple question: Why does my dog smell like cake? Reunited on Thanksgiving and it feels so good.

    Happy Thanksgiving ya'll and thanks for making Simple Question Simple Answers such a big part of the GeekHack community ^__^.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 28 November 2013, 11:47:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 November 2013, 11:34:41
    Not keyboard related and I don't care. Come at me keybros. =P

    I have a simple question: Why does my dog smell like cake? Reunited on Thanksgiving and it feels so good.

    Happy Thanksgiving ya'll and thanks for making Simple Question Simple Answers such a big part of the GeekHack community ^__^.

    Haha...  My dog's feet smell like popcorn and leather.  It is absolutely awesome...  Love my doggies... 

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 28 November 2013, 12:31:53
    Happy Thanks Giving GH people!!! I don't why your dogs smell like that, your lucky mine smells like a regular dog??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:07:23
    How long would you guys wait for an order from China (to the US)?  I am at 37 days for a set of brass risers.  Thinking I should just re-order them. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:13:54
    Quote from: Badwrench on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:07:23
    How long would you guys wait for an order from China (to the US)?  I am at 37 days for a set of brass risers.  Thinking I should just re-order them. 

    Usually only 2 or 3 weeks tops.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:44:50
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:13:54
    Quote from: Badwrench on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:07:23
    How long would you guys wait for an order from China (to the US)?  I am at 37 days for a set of brass risers.  Thinking I should just re-order them. 

    Usually only 2 or 3 weeks tops.

    The screws showed up in 10 days.  I just re-checked the ebay listing:  ordered Oct. 23rd.  Estimated deliverey is between Tue. Dec. 10 and Wed. Dec. 18  :eek:
    Didn't notice that!  At least I have until Dec. 6 to dispute the order if they send the wrong thing  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:52:58
    Ordering stuff from China is weird, I have had stuff come in between 6-40 days. Out of the 20+ items bought only one never came.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:56:00
    Quote from: MOZ on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:52:58
    Ordering stuff from China is weird, I have had stuff come in between 6-40 days. Out of the 20+ items bought only one never came.

    I have had good luck until this one.  These are the last parts I need to assemble my Pure. 

    Anyone have 6 - M2x5mm spacers they want to send me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fiftypoints on Fri, 29 November 2013, 00:28:40
    How should I go about programming windows media codes in an Aikon controller? The Aikon programmer doesn't support them natively.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 29 November 2013, 06:06:24
    1.What this true? holes size :)
    http://i.imgur.com/3WjRZDZ.jpg
    2.And how spacing this?, all 1x1 and one 1.50? ;)
    http://i.imgur.com/zkyhY4P.jpg

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 29 November 2013, 06:22:05
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 29 November 2013, 06:06:24
    1.What this true? holes size :)
    http://i.imgur.com/3WjRZDZ.jpg
    2.And how spacing this?, all 1x1 and one 1.50? ;)
    http://i.imgur.com/zkyhY4P.jpg

    The cutouts for plates need to be 0.551" square. From the Cherry datasheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm) (measurements are in inches):

    (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/mx_metfrm_cutout.gif)

    I don't think I understand the second part of your question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 29 November 2013, 07:09:20
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 29 November 2013, 06:22:05
    The cutouts for plates need to be 0.551" square. From the cherry datasheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm) (measurements are in inches):
    Show Image
    (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/mx_metfrm_cutout.gif)


    I don't think I understand the second part of your question.
    thanks blue bar ;)
    2.  i mean distance of each hole,i hope understand :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 29 November 2013, 07:18:46
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 29 November 2013, 07:09:20
    thanks blue bar ;)
    2.  i mean distance of each hole,i hope understand :D

    Ah that makes more sense. The centers of the switches have to be 0.75" apart, so you need about 0.2" between the holes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 29 November 2013, 07:29:20
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 29 November 2013, 07:18:46
    Ah that makes more sense. The centers of the switches have to be 0.75" apart, so you need about 0.2" between the holes.
    sorry2x :D  nah,this i mean
    http://i.imgur.com/h8poJab.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 29 November 2013, 07:58:51
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 29 November 2013, 07:29:20
    sorry2x :D  nah,this i mean
    http://i.imgur.com/h8poJab.jpg

    Yes, as I said 0.2". Hope this helps:

    [attachimg=1]

    Maybe we should add this to the OP? I don't know if theres any documented official recommendation on the spacing between the holes btw.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 29 November 2013, 08:02:41
    Nice,your editing :p  really understand now :))
    thanks blue bar :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Fri, 29 November 2013, 17:01:52
    A proxy that can proxy GBs from KBDmania?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 29 November 2013, 20:28:21
    How would you compare the feeling of typing on SA keycaps to OEM?  Or a less ergonomic (flat) profile like DSA?  Just trying to imagine if there's a period of adjustment required for SA, where going to Cherry or DCS from OEM is not really dramatically different vs. going to DSA from OEM. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:55:40
    The mini usb port just fell off my Poker 2 pcb. What do I do?

    PS looks like there are 2 black knobs on the bottom of it that anchor it on the pcb. One of them is broken off.

    Edit: The other one just broke off too..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:57:58
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:55:40
    The mini usb port just fell off my Poker 2 pcb. What do I do?

    PS looks like there are 2 black knobs on the bottom of it that anchor it on the pcb. One of them is broken off.

    Edit: The other one just broke off too..

    How in the world did that happen? Was it dropped or was the cable pulled?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:01:48
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:04:36
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:01:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:57:58
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:55:40
    The mini usb port just fell off my Poker 2 pcb. What do I do?

    PS looks like there are 2 black knobs on the bottom of it that anchor it on the pcb. One of them is broken off.

    Edit: The other one just broke off too..

    How in the world did that happen? Was it dropped or was the cable pulled?

    No, I had unscrewed the pcb from the case to flip it over and test some LEDs by touching them on the solder points. I then put the PCB back into the case and started to change the keycaps without screwing it back in. I guess the mini usb jack wasn't properly through the hole in the case, so there was pressure being put on it, and it fell off.

    So in other words you broke it :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:08:53
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:04:36
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:01:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:57:58
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:55:40
    The mini usb port just fell off my Poker 2 pcb. What do I do?

    PS looks like there are 2 black knobs on the bottom of it that anchor it on the pcb. One of them is broken off.

    Edit: The other one just broke off too..

    How in the world did that happen? Was it dropped or was the cable pulled?

    No, I had unscrewed the pcb from the case to flip it over and test some LEDs by touching them on the solder points. I then put the PCB back into the case and started to change the keycaps without screwing it back in. I guess the mini usb jack wasn't properly through the hole in the case, so there was pressure being put on it, and it fell off.

    So in other words you broke it :(

    Yes, that is a blunt way of saying it. I know it's fixable. I probably just need to get another port and solder it back in place. Does anyone know if mini usb ports are generic? Can I just open up something like a broken camera and take it out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dante on Sat, 30 November 2013, 10:01:58
    If Cherry MX Blue is referred as 'Green Axis' in China - then what are Cherry MX Greens called?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:01:10
    Quote from: dante on Sat, 30 November 2013, 10:01:58
    If Cherry MX Blue is referred as 'Green Axis' in China - then what are Cherry MX Greens called?

    tea
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dante on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:13:30
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:01:10
    Quote from: dante on Sat, 30 November 2013, 10:01:58
    If Cherry MX Blue is referred as 'Green Axis' in China - then what are Cherry MX Greens called?

    tea

    Tea Axis = Browns

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:26:30
    Anyone know what these are?

    (http://i.imgur.com/zbWWMKv.jpg)

    I wasn't there so I can't check.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:33:08
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:26:30
    Anyone know what these are?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/zbWWMKv.jpg)


    I wasn't there so I can't check.

    Those are rubber domes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:51:10
    how much does international tracking cost?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 30 November 2013, 14:58:16
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:51:10
    how much does international tracking cost?

    You should get tracking for free with First Class International.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 30 November 2013, 16:33:48
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 30 November 2013, 14:58:16
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:51:10
    how much does international tracking cost?

    You should get tracking for free with First Class International.

    That depends on the destination.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 30 November 2013, 20:30:13
    Is Sprit's GB currently the only place to buy a 75% PCB?  Really interested in that layout, but there does not seem to be very many options available to build one...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Sat, 30 November 2013, 20:58:02
    From feng's Hammer thread, I assume this is his?

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44123.0;attach=23738;image)

    What's the easiest way to replicate this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 November 2013, 21:42:11
    Quote from: divito on Sat, 30 November 2013, 20:58:02
    From feng's Hammer thread, I assume this is his?

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44123.0;attach=23738;image)


    What's the easiest way to replicate this?

    Case or set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Sat, 30 November 2013, 21:56:29
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 30 November 2013, 21:42:11
    Case or set?

    Case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 30 November 2013, 23:21:03
    I'm trying to ship an envelope to Australia by first class envelope, but online USPS won't let me pick envelope and it only lets me pick package.

    Any help?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 30 November 2013, 23:24:01
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 30 November 2013, 23:21:03
    I'm trying to ship an envelope to Australia by first class envelope, but online USPS won't let me pick envelope and it only lets me pick package.

    Any help?

    There is no such option, it defaults to package which if your sending a bubble mailer is how it works. It should be in the ~$6 rang for First Class no tracking.

    Otherwise you have to actually go to the post office.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 30 November 2013, 23:26:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 30 November 2013, 23:24:01
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 30 November 2013, 23:21:03
    I'm trying to ship an envelope to Australia by first class envelope, but online USPS won't let me pick envelope and it only lets me pick package.

    Any help?

    There is no such option, it defaults to package which if your sending a bubble mailer is how it works. It should be in the ~$6 rang for First Class no tracking.

    Otherwise you have to actually go to the post office.

    Thanks for the help!

    Guess I'll be making a trip to the post office on Monday... ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlackWidowMan777 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 01:03:43
    Can you turn off the fade effect with the Ducky Shine 3's reactive lighting mode to be like on the Shine 2 (which had no fade effect I think)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 01 December 2013, 03:53:59
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 30 November 2013, 20:30:13
    Is Sprit's GB currently the only place to buy a 75% PCB?  Really interested in that layout, but there does not seem to be very many options available to build one...

    I'm gonna get one from GON soon, he still has mx minis for sale still. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44147.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 01 December 2013, 06:24:27
    Are there any keyboards that are obtainable by the average Joe that are full backlite using costar stabilizers?

    If so would someone be able to post a close up of the wire in the area of the LED?  Would prefer versions that do not use a SMD led or some goofy trick of LEDs under the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alosec on Sun, 01 December 2013, 17:03:37
    is the realforce 55g ACTUALLY uniform 55g weighted?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 01 December 2013, 18:57:46
    Quote from: alosec on Sun, 01 December 2013, 17:03:37
    is the realforce 55g ACTUALLY uniform 55g weighted?

    I have yet to own one but yes they are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 01 December 2013, 19:22:01
    does kbdmod.com ship to worldwide?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:22:16
    Going to be a few questions here.

    1. If I wanted to build a phantom board now where could I get a plate for it? (I don't care if it allows for opening of switches)

    2. What LED's and Resistors would I need to get and where could I get them?

    3. Is there a cheaper place to get green switches than 7bit?

    4. Finally, would the phantom pcb fit in the vortex case?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=212
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:26:20
    Why don't you just make some ghetto blues? Blues are pretty cheap
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:32:21
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:26:20
    Why don't you just make some ghetto blues? Blues are pretty cheap
    Already have, I just want to sell both of my QFR's and get one real green switch board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:36:23
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:22:16
    Going to be a few questions here.

    1. If I wanted to build a phantom board now where could I get a plate for it? (I don't care if it allows for opening of switches)

    2. What LED's and Resistors would I need to get and where could I get them?

    3. Is there a cheaper place to get green switches than 7bit?

    4. Finally, would the phantom pcb fit in the vortex case?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=212

    1. Your best bet would be to have one cut locally. Laser cutting is the optimal way to have plates cut. Or you could use an online laser cutting service, such as pololu.com.

    2. You only need two LEDs and the associated resistors. Around 3v forward, or similar, 3mm (T1) or 2x3x4mm. I think around 300 ohms for the resistors.

    3. No, not that I know of.

    4. Yes, but you will have to use some kind of non-conducting standoffs to support the PCB in the case, such as Sugru or custom printed supports from Leslieann.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:41:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:36:23
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:22:16
    Going to be a few questions here.

    1. If I wanted to build a phantom board now where could I get a plate for it? (I don't care if it allows for opening of switches)

    2. What LED's and Resistors would I need to get and where could I get them?

    3. Is there a cheaper place to get green switches than 7bit?

    4. Finally, would the phantom pcb fit in the vortex case?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=212

    1. Your best bet would be to have one cut locally. Laser cutting is the optimal way to have plates cut. Or you could use an online laser cutting service, such as pololu.com.

    2. You only need two LEDs and the associated resistors. Around 3v forward, or similar, 3mm (T1) or 2x3x4mm. I think around 300 ohms for the resistors.

    3. No, not that I know of.

    4. Yes, but you will have to use some kind of non-conducting standoffs to support the PCB in the case, such as Sugru or custom printed supports from Leslieann.
    Thanks, if I just wanted to save the trouble then a filco would just fit in there no problems? No new plate or custom standoffs needed, correct? I don't think there are any mx green tkl filcos so I could just mod them in later on no biggie.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:58:24
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:41:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:36:23
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:22:16
    Going to be a few questions here.

    1. If I wanted to build a phantom board now where could I get a plate for it? (I don't care if it allows for opening of switches)

    2. What LED's and Resistors would I need to get and where could I get them?

    3. Is there a cheaper place to get green switches than 7bit?

    4. Finally, would the phantom pcb fit in the vortex case?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=212

    1. Your best bet would be to have one cut locally. Laser cutting is the optimal way to have plates cut. Or you could use an online laser cutting service, such as pololu.com.

    2. You only need two LEDs and the associated resistors. Around 3v forward, or similar, 3mm (T1) or 2x3x4mm. I think around 300 ohms for the resistors.

    3. No, not that I know of.

    4. Yes, but you will have to use some kind of non-conducting standoffs to support the PCB in the case, such as Sugru or custom printed supports from Leslieann.
    Thanks, if I just wanted to save the trouble then a filco would just fit in there no problems? No new plate or custom standoffs needed, correct? I don't think there are any mx green tkl filcos so I could just mod them in later on no biggie.

    Yes, if you don't aim toward a custom layout like 1.5-unit modifiers and 7-unit spacebar on the bottom row, and are perfectly satisfied with the standard 87-key ANSI layout, a stock Filco will fit in the Vortex case with no issues. You can achieve programmable keymaps with bpiphany's Pegasus Hoof or HID Liberation Device. If you want to swap out the switches for Greens later on, you will have to desolder everything from the plate, anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 22:05:27
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:58:24
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:41:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:36:23
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:22:16
    Going to be a few questions here.

    1. If I wanted to build a phantom board now where could I get a plate for it? (I don't care if it allows for opening of switches)

    2. What LED's and Resistors would I need to get and where could I get them?

    3. Is there a cheaper place to get green switches than 7bit?

    4. Finally, would the phantom pcb fit in the vortex case?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=212

    1. Your best bet would be to have one cut locally. Laser cutting is the optimal way to have plates cut. Or you could use an online laser cutting service, such as pololu.com.

    2. You only need two LEDs and the associated resistors. Around 3v forward, or similar, 3mm (T1) or 2x3x4mm. I think around 300 ohms for the resistors.

    3. No, not that I know of.

    4. Yes, but you will have to use some kind of non-conducting standoffs to support the PCB in the case, such as Sugru or custom printed supports from Leslieann.
    Thanks, if I just wanted to save the trouble then a filco would just fit in there no problems? No new plate or custom standoffs needed, correct? I don't think there are any mx green tkl filcos so I could just mod them in later on no biggie.

    Yes, if you don't aim toward a custom layout like 1.5-unit modifiers and 7-unit spacebar on the bottom row, and are perfectly satisfied with the standard 87-key ANSI layout, a stock Filco will fit in the Vortex case with no issues. You can achieve programmable keymaps with bpiphany's Pegasus Hoof or HID Liberation Device. If you want to swap out the switches for Greens later on, you will have to desolder everything from the plate, anyway.
    Sounds like what I am going to do, I have no problem swapping switches later on, it's fun to do imo :D

    Last ?, are there any places to buy a filco majestouch tkl for cheap in the us? If not then I will just get it used.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 22:24:06
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 22:05:27
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:58:24
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:41:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:36:23
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:22:16
    Going to be a few questions here.

    1. If I wanted to build a phantom board now where could I get a plate for it? (I don't care if it allows for opening of switches)

    2. What LED's and Resistors would I need to get and where could I get them?

    3. Is there a cheaper place to get green switches than 7bit?

    4. Finally, would the phantom pcb fit in the vortex case?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=212

    1. Your best bet would be to have one cut locally. Laser cutting is the optimal way to have plates cut. Or you could use an online laser cutting service, such as pololu.com.

    2. You only need two LEDs and the associated resistors. Around 3v forward, or similar, 3mm (T1) or 2x3x4mm. I think around 300 ohms for the resistors.

    3. No, not that I know of.

    4. Yes, but you will have to use some kind of non-conducting standoffs to support the PCB in the case, such as Sugru or custom printed supports from Leslieann.
    Thanks, if I just wanted to save the trouble then a filco would just fit in there no problems? No new plate or custom standoffs needed, correct? I don't think there are any mx green tkl filcos so I could just mod them in later on no biggie.

    Yes, if you don't aim toward a custom layout like 1.5-unit modifiers and 7-unit spacebar on the bottom row, and are perfectly satisfied with the standard 87-key ANSI layout, a stock Filco will fit in the Vortex case with no issues. You can achieve programmable keymaps with bpiphany's Pegasus Hoof or HID Liberation Device. If you want to swap out the switches for Greens later on, you will have to desolder everything from the plate, anyway.
    Sounds like what I am going to do, I have no problem swapping switches later on, it's fun to do imo :D

    Last ?, are there any places to buy a filco majestouch tkl for cheap in the us? If not then I will just get it used.

    The Keyboard Company through Amazon is really your only source for getting them new in the US. They do come up used from time to time here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 03:30:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 December 2013, 06:24:27
    Are there any keyboards that are obtainable by the average Joe that are full backlite using costar stabilizers?

    If so would someone be able to post a close up of the wire in the area of the LED?  Would prefer versions that do not use a SMD led or some goofy trick of LEDs under the PCB.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49731.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51150.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 10:23:11
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 22:05:27
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:58:24
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:41:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:36:23
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:22:16
    Going to be a few questions here.

    1. If I wanted to build a phantom board now where could I get a plate for it? (I don't care if it allows for opening of switches)

    2. What LED's and Resistors would I need to get and where could I get them?

    3. Is there a cheaper place to get green switches than 7bit?

    4. Finally, would the phantom pcb fit in the vortex case?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=212

    1. Your best bet would be to have one cut locally. Laser cutting is the optimal way to have plates cut. Or you could use an online laser cutting service, such as pololu.com.

    2. You only need two LEDs and the associated resistors. Around 3v forward, or similar, 3mm (T1) or 2x3x4mm. I think around 300 ohms for the resistors.

    3. No, not that I know of.

    4. Yes, but you will have to use some kind of non-conducting standoffs to support the PCB in the case, such as Sugru or custom printed supports from Leslieann.
    Thanks, if I just wanted to save the trouble then a filco would just fit in there no problems? No new plate or custom standoffs needed, correct? I don't think there are any mx green tkl filcos so I could just mod them in later on no biggie.

    Yes, if you don't aim toward a custom layout like 1.5-unit modifiers and 7-unit spacebar on the bottom row, and are perfectly satisfied with the standard 87-key ANSI layout, a stock Filco will fit in the Vortex case with no issues. You can achieve programmable keymaps with bpiphany's Pegasus Hoof or HID Liberation Device. If you want to swap out the switches for Greens later on, you will have to desolder everything from the plate, anyway.
    Sounds like what I am going to do, I have no problem swapping switches later on, it's fun to do imo :D

    Last ?, are there any places to buy a filco majestouch tkl for cheap in the us? If not then I will just get it used.
    If you want MX greens and go cheap buy a QFR with greens, use the case, switches and plate. I built my Phantom with a QFR case and it has a removable usb cable and its compatible with the Phantom pcb + Teensy. With the money you save you get a set of fancy keycaps. With the holidays coming a lot retailers all-ways have great QFR deals. The Phantom pcb also has in-switch leds (caps-scr lock) or Filco style option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 December 2013, 10:31:12
    Quote from: MJ45 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 10:23:11
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 22:05:27
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:58:24
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:41:29
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:36:23
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:22:16
    Going to be a few questions here.

    1. If I wanted to build a phantom board now where could I get a plate for it? (I don't care if it allows for opening of switches)

    2. What LED's and Resistors would I need to get and where could I get them?

    3. Is there a cheaper place to get green switches than 7bit?

    4. Finally, would the phantom pcb fit in the vortex case?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=212

    1. Your best bet would be to have one cut locally. Laser cutting is the optimal way to have plates cut. Or you could use an online laser cutting service, such as pololu.com.

    2. You only need two LEDs and the associated resistors. Around 3v forward, or similar, 3mm (T1) or 2x3x4mm. I think around 300 ohms for the resistors.

    3. No, not that I know of.

    4. Yes, but you will have to use some kind of non-conducting standoffs to support the PCB in the case, such as Sugru or custom printed supports from Leslieann.
    Thanks, if I just wanted to save the trouble then a filco would just fit in there no problems? No new plate or custom standoffs needed, correct? I don't think there are any mx green tkl filcos so I could just mod them in later on no biggie.

    Yes, if you don't aim toward a custom layout like 1.5-unit modifiers and 7-unit spacebar on the bottom row, and are perfectly satisfied with the standard 87-key ANSI layout, a stock Filco will fit in the Vortex case with no issues. You can achieve programmable keymaps with bpiphany's Pegasus Hoof or HID Liberation Device. If you want to swap out the switches for Greens later on, you will have to desolder everything from the plate, anyway.
    Sounds like what I am going to do, I have no problem swapping switches later on, it's fun to do imo :D

    Last ?, are there any places to buy a filco majestouch tkl for cheap in the us? If not then I will just get it used.
    If you want MX greens and go cheap buy a QFR with greens, use the case, switches and plate. I built my Phantom with a QFR case and it has a removable usb cable and its compatible with the Phantom pcb + Teensy. With the money you save you get a set of fancy keycaps. With the holidays coming a lot retailers all-ways have great QFR deals.

    But he wants to use the Vortex Aluminum TKL case from MK.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krogenar on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:31:42
    My first encounter with Costar stabilizers! I bought a QFR, and there are these plastic adapters attached to the bottom of the spacebar -- on the the two outermost connection points. What's the right way to reattach this spacebar? Getting the wire back into the inserts looks ... well, I'd rather not break it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:33:34
    Quote from: Krogenar on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:31:42
    My first encounter with Costar stabilizers! I bought a QFR, and there are these plastic adapters attached to the bottom of the spacebar -- on the the two outermost connection points. What's the right way to reattach this spacebar? Getting the wire back into the inserts looks ... well, I'd rather not break it.

    yes those are evil.....I hate them....

    the long side points towards the top of the keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:35:40
    Quote from: Krogenar on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:31:42
    My first encounter with Costar stabilizers! I bought a QFR, and there are these plastic adapters attached to the bottom of the spacebar -- on the the two outermost connection points. What's the right way to reattach this spacebar? Getting the wire back into the inserts looks ... well, I'd rather not break it.

    There are two ways.  First, slip the one side on, barely push out the wire on the other side a little until the other leg pops onto the wire, then push the space bar down as usual.  Second, pop off the clear little legs, slide them onto the wire in the correct orientation, and drop them down into the little cutouts for them so they're resting like they would when the spacebar is fully depressed.  Then just push the spacebar onto the stem and push it all the way down and rock to one side, then the other.  As long as you don't have loose SP stems, it should grab hold to both the stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:36:19
    Im interested in IMSTO's blue PBT dyesub set:

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=61

    Wasn't this available for ~75$ a couple of months ago? I don't wanna pay premium on this thing...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krogenar on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:40:01
    Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:35:40
    Quote from: Krogenar on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:31:42
    My first encounter with Costar stabilizers! I bought a QFR, and there are these plastic adapters attached to the bottom of the spacebar -- on the the two outermost connection points. What's the right way to reattach this spacebar? Getting the wire back into the inserts looks ... well, I'd rather not break it.

    There are two ways.  First, slip the one side on, barely push out the wire on the other side a little until the other leg pops onto the wire, then push the space bar down as usual.  Second, pop off the clear little legs, slide them onto the wire in the correct orientation, and drop them down into the little cutouts for them so they're resting like they would when the spacebar is fully depressed.  Then just push the spacebar onto the stem and push it all the way down and rock to one side, then the other.  As long as you don't have loose SP stems, it should grab hold to both the stabilizers.

    Ok that, combined with Ray's 'long side towards top of keyboard' allowed me to conquer the evil. Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:54:16
    looking to change my reds to blacks, buying springs from originative, stock blacks use what spring weight?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:55:45
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:54:16
    looking to change my reds to blacks, buying springs from originative, stock blacks use what spring weight?

    I think 60.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:58:49

    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:54:16
    looking to change my reds to blacks, buying springs from originative, stock blacks use what spring weight?

    It depends on which scale you use. On originative he has a graph with the weights on the spring page. I think he has blacks on that graph.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:59:15
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:54:16
    looking to change my reds to blacks, buying springs from originative, stock blacks use what spring weight?

    About 90g, see http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:30:27
    Thats the actuation rate of blacks, i just need the spring rate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:41:21
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:30:27
    Thats the actuation rate of blacks, i just need the spring rate.

    Cherry spring rates are figured at the actuation point and aftermarket springs are for the most part figured at bottom out point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:32:27
    so can anyone tell me which origninative springs are most like blacks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:34:33
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:32:27
    so can anyone tell me which origninative springs are most like blacks?

    That would be the 65g ones on this page.

    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:39:24
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:34:33
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:32:27
    so can anyone tell me which origninative springs are most like blacks?

    That would be the 65g ones on this page.

    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs

    It's actually the 80g springs, not the 65g ones.  The 65g and 67g springs are both lighter than Blacks.  I say this both from personal experience and from the testing others have done.  If you look at the graph on his page, Blacks are the MX Heavy springs listed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:39:39
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:34:33
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:32:27
    so can anyone tell me which origninative springs are most like blacks?

    That would be the 65g ones on this page.

    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs
    You sure about that, I always saw people saying it was the 80g springs. Just look at the 62g springs on that chart, they are nowhere near mx heavy springs. The 62 on there show that they are closest to the light springs (red, blue, brown)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:46:39
    Well color me confused. Maybe I'm going off the wrong scale. All the sites I've been to and even cherry states the blacks are 65g, blues are 55g, browns & reds are 45g.

    Are they measuring different than what Originative measures???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:51:57
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:46:39
    Well color me confused. Maybe I'm going off the wrong scale. All the sites I've been to and even cherry states the blacks are 65g, blues are 55g, browns & reds are 45g.

    Are they measuring different than what Originative measures???
    Yes, korean springs are measured differently than how cherry measures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:58:24
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:46:39
    Well color me confused. Maybe I'm going off the wrong scale. All the sites I've been to and even cherry states the blacks are 65g, blues are 55g, browns & reds are 45g.

    Are they measuring different than what Originative measures???

    Cherry is measured at actuation.  If I remember correctly, Korean springs should be at full compression or close to that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:00:53
    That's good to know. I'm not a huge fan of lighter springs so thankfully I didn't buy any yet.

    Been here a couple years and I still learn something new.....love it!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:02:57
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:00:53
    That's good to know. I'm not a huge fan of lighter springs so thankfully I didn't buy any yet.

    Been here a couple years and I still learn something new.....love it!

    Yeah, I'm not a fan of lighter springs either, though 67g are awesome.  I sing their praise and worship in their temple.

    That's definitely the mindset to come in here with too.  There's so much info that I know I always have something new to learn and, in some cases, unlearn.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:33:09
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:00:53
    That's good to know. I'm not a huge fan of lighter springs so thankfully I didn't buy any yet.

    Been here a couple years and I still learn something new.....love it!

    On the springs page (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs) on originativeco.com this graph shows things pretty clearly...
    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/files/spring-rate-chart.jpg?1061)

    Cherry springs are measured at actuation and their springs are measured at full key press (or there abouts).  In the notes on that page you can see that the 'Heavy' on that graph is in reference to Blacks (67g cherry; 88g korean) .  Also, notice that the 62g originative has an actuation of 52g and a down of 62g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whitevivian on Tue, 03 December 2013, 00:41:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:32:53
    Quote from: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:29:35
    1) Thanks! I stumbled upon this seller another member had linked, whilst browsing through the forums. I'm looking for engraved white keycaps for my CM QFR.

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3583352554.36.vKq8iu&id=13483583452

    2) Still looking for stores selling laser engraved white keycaps, most are selling side/top printed ones.

    1) Says right in the title that it will fit Filco/Das/Ducky so it's safe to assume its ANSI 104 which means it will fit your ANSI 87 Filco. ANSI 104 is just the fullsize keycap set. ANSI 87 is the same set minus the numberpad.

    2) Engraved caps in general aren't popular since the indentation can get dirty fast.

    we can easily search/get  the taobao item here:


    MOD EDIT: Links removed, this is not the place to advertise.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 03 December 2013, 01:04:01
    Quote from: whitevivian on Tue, 03 December 2013, 00:41:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:32:53
    Quote from: AoS on Mon, 18 November 2013, 10:29:35
    1) Thanks! I stumbled upon this seller another member had linked, whilst browsing through the forums. I'm looking for engraved white keycaps for my CM QFR.

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3583352554.36.vKq8iu&id=13483583452

    2) Still looking for stores selling laser engraved white keycaps, most are selling side/top printed ones.

    1) Says right in the title that it will fit Filco/Das/Ducky so it's safe to assume its ANSI 104 which means it will fit your ANSI 87 Filco. ANSI 104 is just the fullsize keycap set. ANSI 87 is the same set minus the numberpad.

    2) Engraved caps in general aren't popular since the indentation can get dirty fast.

    we can easily search/get  the taobao item here:
    MOD EDIT: Links removed, this is not the place to advertise.

    Can you stop advertising your website? If you really need to, message mkawa and he will make you a vendor. Otherwise you can't go around telling people to use your site
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:33:29
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 30 November 2013, 20:30:13
    Is Sprit's GB currently the only place to buy a 75% PCB?  Really interested in that layout, but there does not seem to be very many options available to build one...

    There's the Epsilon, GON's, MXMinis, and a few stock boards out with a 75% PCB. Noppoo Choc Mini comes to mind.

    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:08:53
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:55:40
    The mini usb port just fell off my Poker 2 pcb. What do I do?

    PS looks like there are 2 black knobs on the bottom of it that anchor it on the pcb. One of them is broken off.

    Edit: The other one just broke off too..

    Yes, that is a blunt way of saying it. I know it's fixable. I probably just need to get another port and solder it back in place. Does anyone know if mini usb ports are generic? Can I just open up something like a broken camera and take it out?

    Pretty sure they are. I think if you find the port and then use this guide from nubbinator (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44924.0), you'll be fine. You can also PM tjcaustin, TheFlyingRaccoon, and nubbinator for help.

    Quote from: LechnerDE on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:36:19
    Im interested in IMSTO's blue PBT dyesub set:

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=61

    Wasn't this available for ~75$ a couple of months ago? I don't wanna pay premium on this thing...

    There's a price check thread. Please ask there.

    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 29 November 2013, 20:28:21
    How would you compare the feeling of typing on SA keycaps to OEM?  Or a less ergonomic (flat) profile like DSA?  Just trying to imagine if there's a period of adjustment required for SA, where going to Cherry or DCS from OEM is not really dramatically different vs. going to DSA from OEM. 

    SA caps are much much taller than OEM and DSA. The only time I had an adjustment period for caps was for DSA, since I felt like the surface area was smaller and it felt odd to me. SA caps are lovely; smooth, thick, super cuppy but tall. If going from Cherry to OEM bothers you, it might take a little getting used to. For me? SA was love at first touch.

    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 01 December 2013, 19:22:01
    does kbdmod.com ship to worldwide?

    Pretty sure they do.

    Quote from: divito on Sat, 30 November 2013, 20:58:02
    From feng's Hammer thread, I assume this is his?

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44123.0;attach=23738;image)


    What's the easiest way to replicate this?

    Honestly? You'll probably have to get someone to cut it for you after you make a CAD model/drawings for it. I've never seen a case like that since feng's.


    I was AFK for a little while. If you asked a question and I didn't catch it when I read back, please PM me so we can help you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:45:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:33:29
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:08:53
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:55:40
    The mini usb port just fell off my Poker 2 pcb. What do I do?

    PS looks like there are 2 black knobs on the bottom of it that anchor it on the pcb. One of them is broken off.

    Edit: The other one just broke off too..

    Yes, that is a blunt way of saying it. I know it's fixable. I probably just need to get another port and solder it back in place. Does anyone know if mini usb ports are generic? Can I just open up something like a broken camera and take it out?

    Pretty sure they are. I think if you find the port and then use this guide from nubbinator (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44924.0), you'll be fine. You can also PM tjcaustin, TheFlyingRaccoon, and nubbinator for help.

    The port on the jack itself is standardized by the USP implementers forum, and will be basically the same wherever you go, but the way it mounts to the PCB might vary. For example, the USB jack on the ergoDOX is soldered to the PCB. THe poker2 one appears to have PCB stabilizing and retention pins on it. You should get another one with these pins to replace it. Also check and see if the PCB is damaged where the jack is. If the traces are fine, then you probably can just replace it. If not, some sort of trace repair is necessary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Wed, 04 December 2013, 02:36:45
    I'm sorry this is not keyboard related.

    How to insert image into a post?  After I click insert image I paste the code in between  the two [img] things.
    Using Flickr there is two options for the code. either </> or picture of a thumbtack code. When either is used the picture does not show up in the "preview post" option and there is just a very small icon or thumbnail where image is supposed to be and clicking on it makes it continuously load and nothing happens. Does the "preview post" option always do this? and the image will just work anyway or am I doing it wrong?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 04 December 2013, 02:50:57
    I hope helps :) I think copy no2,no 1 just link :D
    (http://i.imgur.com/xH3bv4P.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Wed, 04 December 2013, 03:53:01
    ^^ Thanks. I just ended up using Imgur and seems to work fine
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mauri on Wed, 04 December 2013, 05:51:14
    I'm wondering, my new ducky stopped working on my computer after rebooting. It flashes lights and doesn't work. It works on my laptop and the usb ports are fine since my other keyboards work thru them.

    Any ideas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 04 December 2013, 05:54:11
    Quote from: mauri on Wed, 04 December 2013, 05:51:14
    I'm wondering, my new ducky stopped working on my computer after rebooting. It flashes lights and doesn't work. It works on my laptop and the usb ports are fine since my other keyboards work thru them.

    Did you reboot your PC again? Did you try the other USB ports anyways?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mauri on Wed, 04 December 2013, 05:57:44
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 04 December 2013, 05:54:11
    Quote from: mauri on Wed, 04 December 2013, 05:51:14
    I'm wondering, my new ducky stopped working on my computer after rebooting. It flashes lights and doesn't work. It works on my laptop and the usb ports are fine since my other keyboards work thru them.

    Did you reboot your PC again? Did you try the other USB ports anyways?

    Yes i rebooted and tested other usb ports
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 04 December 2013, 06:02:53
    Quote from: mauri on Wed, 04 December 2013, 05:57:44
    Yes i rebooted and tested other usb ports

    That's weird... Did you install any new software? Since it works on your laptop and used to work on your PC and the USB port is not the issue that makes me think that it's a software issue. Check your mainboard drivers for updates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 04 December 2013, 07:32:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:33:29
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Mon, 02 December 2013, 12:36:19
    Im interested in IMSTO's blue PBT dyesub set:

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=61

    Wasn't this available for ~75$ a couple of months ago? I don't wanna pay premium on this thing...

    There's a price check thread. Please ask there.

    Thanks for the tip, I wasn't aware of this thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:08:45
    Quote from: Fullcream on Wed, 04 December 2013, 02:36:45
    I'm sorry this is not keyboard related.

    How to insert image into a post?  After I click insert image I paste the code in between  the two
    Show Image
    (http://)
    things.
    Using Flickr there is two options for the code. either </> or picture of a thumbtack code. When either is used the picture does not show up in the "preview post" option and there is just a very small icon or thumbnail where image is supposed to be and clicking on it makes it continuously load and nothing happens. Does the "preview post" option always do this? and the image will just work anyway or am I doing it wrong?

    The code to put a picture in a forum is:

    Code: [Select]
    [Img]pictureurlhere[/img]

    For flickr pictures, I go and find the link that has sizes. So its under the picture's options -> other sizes. Find the size you like, I usually go for the 500 pixel option. Then copy that link as your url. Don't think you can just input flickr's options since those are HTML (I think) and the forum uses bbcode. If youre previewing an HTML picture link, that could be causing your non-loading picture issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:54:49
    What is usually the size of the screws on the kibord?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:59:58
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:54:49
    What is usually the size of the screws on the kibord?

    Don't think there is a standard screw size. The Poker/Pures use these screws (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_KK). Forget what size my KMAC and Epsilon use...I'll have to check later.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 04 December 2013, 10:02:14
    you need one more post for 6k there CPT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 December 2013, 18:47:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:59:58
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:54:49
    What is usually the size of the screws on the kibord?

    Don't think there is a standard screw size. The Poker/Pures use these screws (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_KK). Forget what size my KMAC and Epsilon use...I'll have to check later.

    I couldn't find the KMAC or Epsilon screw sizes in a quick search. But I found screw sizes for the LZ-GH and what The_Beast used for his case.

    LZ-GH = M3 6mm
    The_Beast's case = http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44778.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yjfknt on Wed, 04 December 2013, 19:13:03
    How would I go about changing the plate on a plate mounted board? Would I have to de-solder everything?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Wed, 04 December 2013, 19:16:17
    Quote from: yjfknt on Wed, 04 December 2013, 19:13:03
    How would I go about changing the plate on a plate mounted board? Would I have to de-solder everything?
    You'd need to desolder all the switches in order to be able to snap them off the previous plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 December 2013, 14:26:54
    Just a quick update for ya'll. If you didn't know, all posts are limited to 40,000 characters. The OP of this thread is very close to reaching that limit. As a result, I will be taking over the second post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg803627#msg803627). I hope Strelok and the rest of you are ok with that. The question will be preserved of course but I'll need the other 39,900 characters or so to keep expanding the FAQ. And yes I have the ability to modify his post.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:10:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 December 2013, 14:26:54
    Just a quick update for ya'll. If you didn't know, all posts are limited to 40,000 characters. The OP of this thread is very close to reaching that limit. As a result, I will be taking over the second post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg803627#msg803627). I hope Strelok and the rest of you are ok with that. The question will be preserved of course but I'll need the other 39,900 characters or so to keep expanding the FAQ. And yes I have the ability to modify his post.

    Follow up question, would there be a point to get aluminum case if I don't get an aluminum plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:11:13
    Quote from: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:10:02
    Would there be a point to get aluminum case if I don't get an aluminum plate?

    What point are you looking for? Many keyboards have a stock metal plate to begin with.

    Edit: Not sure exactly what you're asking, need some clarification.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:18:36
    You mean like, an alu case with an acrylic plate?

    If you're willing to put the cash down for an alu case, the $35 (at imsto's site) for an alu plate should be pocket change :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:20:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:11:13
    Quote from: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:10:02
    Would there be a point to get aluminum case if I don't get an aluminum plate?

    What point are you looking for? Many keyboards have a stock metal plate to begin with.

    Edit: Not sure exactly what you're asking, need some clarification.

    I'm thinking about getting a poker II, and an aluminum case so it's sturdier and sounds better? but I'm not sure what plate poker has originally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:22:50
    Quote from: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:20:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:11:13
    Quote from: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:10:02
    Would there be a point to get aluminum case if I don't get an aluminum plate?

    What point are you looking for? Many keyboards have a stock metal plate to begin with.

    Edit: Not sure exactly what you're asking, need some clarification.

    I'm thinking about getting a poker II, and an aluminum case so it's sturdier and sounds better? but I'm not sure what plate poker has originally.

    EDIT: CPT gave a better answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:23:28
    Quote from: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:20:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:11:13
    Quote from: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:10:02
    Would there be a point to get aluminum case if I don't get an aluminum plate?

    What point are you looking for? Many keyboards have a stock metal plate to begin with.

    Edit: Not sure exactly what you're asking, need some clarification.

    I'm thinking about getting a poker II, and an aluminum case so it's sturdier and sounds better? but I'm not sure what plate poker has originally.

    Poker II has a metal plate. Not exactly sure what metal it is but it should be stainless steel. Aluminum plates are super light and it's very easy to tell if its aluminum or not. Judged on other stock plates I've seen, it's probably not aluminum. I own an aluminum TKL plate and I've worked with a KMAC, Epsilon stainless steel and acrylic plates, and QFR stainless steel plate. It will be fine if you swap out the case to an aluminum one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 05 December 2013, 17:13:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:23:28
    Quote from: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:20:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:11:13
    Quote from: yjfknt on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:10:02
    Would there be a point to get aluminum case if I don't get an aluminum plate?

    What point are you looking for? Many keyboards have a stock metal plate to begin with.

    Edit: Not sure exactly what you're asking, need some clarification.

    I'm thinking about getting a poker II, and an aluminum case so it's sturdier and sounds better? but I'm not sure what plate poker has originally.

    Poker II has a metal plate. Not exactly sure what metal it is but it should be stainless steel. Aluminum plates are super light and it's very easy to tell if its aluminum or not. Judged on other stock plates I've seen, it's probably not aluminum. I own an aluminum TKL plate and I've worked with a KMAC, Epsilon stainless steel and acrylic plates, and QFR stainless steel plate. It will be fine if you swap out the case to an aluminum one.

    You should really just get a Poker II, given the number of questions asked about them.  :P

    And the plate appears to be steel to me as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:09:42
    Can Alps be opened without desoldering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:17:49
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:09:42
    Can Alps be opened without desoldering?

    Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:20:10
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:17:49
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:09:42
    Can Alps be opened without desoldering?

    Yes.

    yup, just figured it out.  now have to figure out how to reassemble this damn thing
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 December 2013, 22:17:13
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:20:10
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:17:49
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:09:42
    Can Alps be opened without desoldering?

    Yes.

    yup, just figured it out.  now have to figure out how to reassemble this damn thing

    Haha, yeah, that can be tricky.  Magnets or holding the board at a 90 degree angle can help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 23:10:05
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 05 December 2013, 22:17:13
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:20:10
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:17:49
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:09:42
    Can Alps be opened without desoldering?

    Yes.

    yup, just figured it out.  now have to figure out how to reassemble this damn thing

    Haha, yeah, that can be tricky.  Magnets or holding the board at a 90 degree angle can help.

    Turned a flaky switch into a broken switch :))  Time to desolder  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:44:14
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 23:10:05
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 05 December 2013, 22:17:13
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:20:10
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:17:49
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 21:09:42
    Can Alps be opened without desoldering?

    Yes.

    yup, just figured it out.  now have to figure out how to reassemble this damn thing

    Haha, yeah, that can be tricky.  Magnets or holding the board at a 90 degree angle can help.

    Turned a flaky switch into a broken switch :))  Time to desolder  :rolleyes:

    That sucks.  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:45:09
    Is there a good description of how Alps switches are different (feel, sound, etc) from MX switches (or others) somewhere on here?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:45:09
    Is there a good description of how Alps switches are different (feel, sound, etc) from MX switches (or others) somewhere on here?

    I have a review of a Mr. Interface Switch try bag here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Alps) and a review on the Dell AT101W (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41868.0) from Akimbro's tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37940.0). There should be some Blue Alps reviews coming as well from Akimbo's Blue Alps tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.0). And the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_CM) has some good info. I've also tried many of the common Alps and most of the MX switches if you want to discuss it in PMs or a different thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:15:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:45:09
    Is there a good description of how Alps switches are different (feel, sound, etc) from MX switches (or others) somewhere on here?

    I have a review of a Mr. Interface Switch try bag here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Alps) and a review on the Dell AT101W (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41868.0) from Akimbro's tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37940.0). There should be some Blue Alps reviews coming as well from Akimbo's Blue Alps tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.0). And the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_CM) has some good info. I've also tried many of the common Alps and most of the MX switches if you want to discuss it in PMs or a different thread.

    Great thanks, that gets me going...

    Next question.  Are Alps keycaps available anywhere because I do not see them nearly as often as MX and even Topre...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:17:29
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:15:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:45:09
    Is there a good description of how Alps switches are different (feel, sound, etc) from MX switches (or others) somewhere on here?

    I have a review of a Mr. Interface Switch try bag here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Alps) and a review on the Dell AT101W (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41868.0) from Akimbro's tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37940.0). There should be some Blue Alps reviews coming as well from Akimbo's Blue Alps tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.0). And the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_CM) has some good info. I've also tried many of the common Alps and most of the MX switches if you want to discuss it in PMs or a different thread.

    Great thanks, that gets me going...

    Next question.  Are Alps keycaps available anywhere because I do not see them nearly as often as MX and even Topre...
    Not at the moment.  Gotta harvest from boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:18:48
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:17:29
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:15:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:45:09
    Is there a good description of how Alps switches are different (feel, sound, etc) from MX switches (or others) somewhere on here?

    I have a review of a Mr. Interface Switch try bag here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Alps) and a review on the Dell AT101W (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41868.0) from Akimbro's tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37940.0). There should be some Blue Alps reviews coming as well from Akimbo's Blue Alps tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.0). And the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_CM) has some good info. I've also tried many of the common Alps and most of the MX switches if you want to discuss it in PMs or a different thread.

    Great thanks, that gets me going...

    Next question.  Are Alps keycaps available anywhere because I do not see them nearly as often as MX and even Topre...
    Not at the moment.  Gotta harvest from boards.

    Unless you want to get a whole lot of practice doing stem mods
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:31:37
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:18:48
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:17:29
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:15:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:45:09
    Is there a good description of how Alps switches are different (feel, sound, etc) from MX switches (or others) somewhere on here?

    I have a review of a Mr. Interface Switch try bag here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Alps) and a review on the Dell AT101W (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41868.0) from Akimbro's tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37940.0). There should be some Blue Alps reviews coming as well from Akimbo's Blue Alps tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.0). And the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_CM) has some good info. I've also tried many of the common Alps and most of the MX switches if you want to discuss it in PMs or a different thread.

    Great thanks, that gets me going...

    Next question.  Are Alps keycaps available anywhere because I do not see them nearly as often as MX and even Topre...
    Not at the moment.  Gotta harvest from boards.

    Unless you want to get a whole lot of practice doing stem mods

    Haha, alright then.  Guess I just need to keep an eye out if I want to build and Alps board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:32:04
    There is a IC from alps caps though! Post your interest there too!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:34:55
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:31:37
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:18:48
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:17:29
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:15:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:45:09
    Is there a good description of how Alps switches are different (feel, sound, etc) from MX switches (or others) somewhere on here?

    I have a review of a Mr. Interface Switch try bag here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Alps) and a review on the Dell AT101W (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41868.0) from Akimbro's tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37940.0). There should be some Blue Alps reviews coming as well from Akimbo's Blue Alps tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.0). And the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_CM) has some good info. I've also tried many of the common Alps and most of the MX switches if you want to discuss it in PMs or a different thread.

    Great thanks, that gets me going...

    Next question.  Are Alps keycaps available anywhere because I do not see them nearly as often as MX and even Topre...
    Not at the moment.  Gotta harvest from boards.

    Unless you want to get a whole lot of practice doing stem mods

    Haha, alright then.  Guess I just need to keep an eye out if I want to build and Alps board.

    Also Matias is currently creating tooling to make ALPS keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:38:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:34:55
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:31:37
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:18:48
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:17:29
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:15:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 11:55:13
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:45:09
    Is there a good description of how Alps switches are different (feel, sound, etc) from MX switches (or others) somewhere on here?

    I have a review of a Mr. Interface Switch try bag here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Alps) and a review on the Dell AT101W (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41868.0) from Akimbro's tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37940.0). There should be some Blue Alps reviews coming as well from Akimbo's Blue Alps tour (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49604.0). And the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_CM) has some good info. I've also tried many of the common Alps and most of the MX switches if you want to discuss it in PMs or a different thread.

    Great thanks, that gets me going...

    Next question.  Are Alps keycaps available anywhere because I do not see them nearly as often as MX and even Topre...
    Not at the moment.  Gotta harvest from boards.

    Unless you want to get a whole lot of practice doing stem mods

    Haha, alright then.  Guess I just need to keep an eye out if I want to build and Alps board.

    Also Matias is currently creating tooling to make ALPS keycaps.

    If I am not mistaken are not all alps caps compatible with each other?  Like slightly different stems.  This could just be from some of the clones but a touch of clarification might be needed on this one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:44:39
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:32:04
    There is a IC from alps caps though! Post your interest there too!

    Thanks, I will go find this...  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 14:53:57
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:44:39
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:32:04
    There is a IC from alps caps though! Post your interest there too!

    Thanks, I will go find this...  :)

    Interest check is here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45879.0). Problem is there's so many little differences for different boards and calavera wasn't sure what boards he should cover. Just making an ANSI 1.25x set isn't as easy as it seems since most Alps boards have slight variations in layouts. Also, he's busy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45879.msg1059142#msg1059142).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolonelkadat on Fri, 06 December 2013, 20:15:44
    whats the nearest MX switch to ML in regardss to stiffness and clickyness?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Fri, 06 December 2013, 20:20:37
    ML feels like a short throw MX brown with off center friction issues. Also ML is not clicky. only has a bump.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 20:35:47
    Quote from: kolonelkadat on Fri, 06 December 2013, 20:15:44
    whats the nearest MX switch to ML in regardss to stiffness and clickyness?

    Could try Jailhouse Blues (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45992.0), but it's not a stock switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolonelkadat on Fri, 06 December 2013, 20:55:29
    Right on. thanks guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 06 December 2013, 20:57:42
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 23:10:05
    Can Alps be opened without desoldering?
    See in ripster imgur
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 December 2013, 21:01:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 06 December 2013, 20:57:42
    Quote from: metalliqaz on Thu, 05 December 2013, 23:10:05
    Can Alps be opened without desoldering?
    See in ripster imgur

    Some info from the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_GGG). Includes some ripster info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1pq on Sun, 08 December 2013, 01:24:07
    Has anyone tried lubed blues with a slightly heavier spring (65g? or maybe the stock clear spring?)? I feel like this might be a really nice switch, but I'd definitely like to know if others have done this and what they think before I try modding anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 December 2013, 01:30:56
    Quote from: 1pq on Sun, 08 December 2013, 01:24:07
    Has anyone tried lubed blues with a slightly heavier spring (65g? or maybe the stock clear spring?)? I feel like this might be a really nice switch, but I'd definitely like to know if others have done this and what they think before I try modding anything.

    The lubed Blue on my tester feels like a Brown to me. I don't feel a click anymore and I'm not a huge fan. I know Binge really likes his 65g lubed Blues on his 2TU. I tried them but unfortunately I don't remember exactly how they feel. Hopefully he chimes in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Binge on Sun, 08 December 2013, 01:32:47
    CHIME!  My lubed 65g blues feel the most blue.  Stock blues are not nearly as crisp to the touch.  Kaliet did some serious magic. :D  Super crisp, great weight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1pq on Sun, 08 December 2013, 01:36:52
    Cool, thanks. How do they compare to the feeling over ergo-clears? Just "sharper" tactility?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 08 December 2013, 02:01:39
    I think for a lubed clicky switch of any spring weight to stay clicky you would have to go very light on the lube with a lightweight lube and be very careful where it gets put at.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 08 December 2013, 09:49:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 08 December 2013, 02:01:39
    I think for a lubed clicky switch of any spring weight to stay clicky you would have to go very light on the lube with a lightweight lube and be very careful where it gets put at.

    Mkawa outlined best lubing practices for clicky switches the other day. Now if I could remember where that was....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sovano on Sun, 08 December 2013, 10:50:46
    Are there any good Taobao agents out there? I really want to buy the LED color modifiers (http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220o.1000855.w5003-3776728825.1.tImroG&id=27544684728&&&scene=taobao_shop) from the groupbuy here, but I'm not patient enough to wait several months. Also how long does shipping generally take to the US if going through a proxy service? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 08 December 2013, 10:52:23
    Quote from: sovano on Sun, 08 December 2013, 10:50:46
    Are there any good Taobao agents out there? I really want to buy the LED color modifiers (http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220o.1000855.w5003-3776728825.1.tImroG&id=27544684728&&&scene=taobao_shop) from the groupbuy here, but I'm not patient enough to wait several months. Also how long does shipping generally take to the US if going through a proxy service? Thanks!

    I've used Qtan, and I was happy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Sun, 08 December 2013, 10:53:30
    Quote from: sovano on Sun, 08 December 2013, 10:50:46
    Are there any good Taobao agents out there? I really want to buy the LED color modifiers (http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220o.1000855.w5003-3776728825.1.tImroG&id=27544684728&&&scene=taobao_shop) from the groupbuy here, but I'm not patient enough to wait several months. Also how long does shipping generally take to the US if going through a proxy service? Thanks!

    Quote from: metalliqaz on Sun, 08 December 2013, 10:52:23
    Quote from: sovano on Sun, 08 December 2013, 10:50:46
    Are there any good Taobao agents out there? I really want to buy the LED color modifiers (http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220o.1000855.w5003-3776728825.1.tImroG&id=27544684728&&&scene=taobao_shop) from the groupbuy here, but I'm not patient enough to wait several months. Also how long does shipping generally take to the US if going through a proxy service? Thanks!

    I've used Qtan, and I was happy.

    Same here, my GF bought some clothes and they arrived very quickly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sovano on Sun, 08 December 2013, 10:56:32
    Awesome qtan is an agent? That's great. I've had nothing but good experiences buying from his online stores in the past. Do I just message him here on GH to set it up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Sun, 08 December 2013, 11:02:45
    Quote from: sovano on Sun, 08 December 2013, 10:56:32
    Awesome qtan is an agent? That's great. I've had nothing but good experiences buying from his online stores in the past. Do I just message him here on GH to set it up?

    Yeap!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sovano on Sun, 08 December 2013, 11:09:09
    Thanks for the quick replies! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 08 December 2013, 23:32:24
    how to connect 2 halves, with just one teensy 2.0?
    Can you explain a little more how the wire between the two halves

    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 08 December 2013, 23:34:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 08 December 2013, 09:49:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 08 December 2013, 02:01:39
    I think for a lubed clicky switch of any spring weight to stay clicky you would have to go very light on the lube with a lightweight lube and be very careful where it gets put at.

    Mkawa outlined best lubing practices for clicky switches the other day. Now if I could remember where that was....

    Do you mean this? I had to refer to it recently to decide a plan of action on a few keyboards I have.
    Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 04 December 2013, 02:05:12
    FOR MX SWITCHES:

    i would not lube where the spring touches the cap of the stem. there is no wear there. the spring also does not touch the stem in a typical actuation, i wouldn't bother with that either. in fact, the only place i recommend lub is the either the slider or the housing side of the points at which the slider touches the housing. for linear switches, i recommend lubricating the front of the slider as well, the tendrils that actuate the gold crosspoints (they are lubed from the factory but with a silicone lube that just does not last long enough or provide the lubridicity for really smooth actuation), and the arc-face of a linear switch. i do not recommend lube anywhere else in an MX switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 09 December 2013, 09:30:10
    A friend of mine at work just asked me a question that I was not able to answer.  I thought you guys might be able to point me in the right direction.

    He has a Model M.  He bought a PS2 to USB adapter, but it does not work on his Mac.

    I saw somewhere else in this thread that you need an 'active' PS2 to USB adapter for the Model F (I think).  If he made sure that he had an active PS2 to USB adapter, would that solve his problem? 

    Thx...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 09:36:48
    Quote from: swill on Mon, 09 December 2013, 09:30:10
    He has a Model M.  He bought a PS2 to USB adapter, but it does not work on his Mac.

    I saw somewhere else in this thread that you need an 'active' PS2 to USB adapter for the Model F (I think).  If he made sure that he had an active PS2 to USB adapter, would that solve his problem? 

    An active adapter such as the one in the GeekHackers store or a Belkin one should make an M work fine. Also there are SDL to USB cables that you can buy on eBay.

    If you have an F, and you want it to work over USB, you'll have to use a Soarer Mod if its an XT or use an AT to PS2, then active PS2 to USB adapter. Pretty sure I saw someone use an AT F on their MacBook Air with the AT to PS2, then active PS2 to USB adapter method. Clunky but it works.

    I'm not a Mac user at all though so hopefully others chime in :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 09 December 2013, 09:47:12
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 08 December 2013, 23:32:24
    how to connect 2 halves, with just one teensy 2.0?
    Can you explain a little more how the wire between the two halves

    thanks
    I waiting you CPTBadAs ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 09:48:54
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 09 December 2013, 09:47:12
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 08 December 2013, 23:32:24
    how to connect 2 halves, with just one teensy 2.0?
    Can you explain a little more how the wire between the two halves

    thanks
    I waiting you CPTBadAs ;D

    Not a simple question and I have no idea. It's probably much more complicated than you and I think and deserves its own thread. Talk to oobly or Soarer? And don't bump your questions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 09 December 2013, 09:59:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 08 December 2013, 23:32:24
    how to connect 2 halves, with just one teensy 2.0?
    Can you explain a little more how the wire between the two halves

    thanks

    It uses a MCP23018 I/O expander to connect the two halves.

    You can find out all about the ErgoDox in this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=22780.0) thread, or at ErgoDox.org (http://ergodox.org).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 09 December 2013, 17:08:28
    Quote from: divito on Sat, 30 November 2013, 20:58:02
    From feng's Hammer thread, I assume this is his?

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44123.0;attach=23738;image)


    What's the easiest way to replicate this?

    Not sure how close this gets you, but there is what appears to be a TKL version of this case for sale here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51450.0;topicseen
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 09 December 2013, 17:26:36
    The linked case is for a realforce, not filco.

    To answer the question: the best way to replicate it would be by 3D modelling it yourself and getting a local CNC shop to do the machining.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:25:10
    Is there some place where I can buy small amounts (e.g. 0.5oz vs. 1lb) of Krytox GPL 103? Searches turn up a number of past group-buys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:26:38
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:25:10
    Is there some place where I can buy small amounts (e.g. 0.5oz vs. 1lb) of Krytox GPL 103? Searches turn up a number of past group-buys.

    Is there a reason you're set on GPL103? You can use this lube kit (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/lube-kit) from Sheraton which will work fine for lubing your keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:31:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:26:38
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:25:10
    Is there some place where I can buy small amounts (e.g. 0.5oz vs. 1lb) of Krytox GPL 103? Searches turn up a number of past group-buys.

    Is there a reason you're set on GPL103? You can use this lube kit (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/lube-kit) from Sheraton which will work fine for lubing your keyboard.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I'm already aware of those kits. I realize now that I should have asked a different question:

    I already have GPL 205 and I'm looking for an oil that can be mixed with it. I've heard that GPL 103 mixes well with it, but it's not readily available. Is there another oil that people would recommend mixing with GPL 205 that's more easily acquired?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:26:39
    GPL 1506 is a lighter oil I believe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nzhao20 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 08:33:54
    Do mx clears have the same grittiness as browns? If so, can this be solved by lube?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 08:41:10
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 08:33:54
    Do mx clears have the same grittiness as browns? If so, can this be solved by lube?

    Thanks

    I've never noticed any grittiness in clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 December 2013, 08:43:03
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 08:33:54
    Do mx clears have the same grittiness as browns? If so, can this be solved by lube?

    I've also never felt that MX Clears had any grittiness. However, the gritty feeling in MX Browns is subjective. I feel it but others don't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 10 December 2013, 09:11:31
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 08:33:54
    Do mx clears have the same grittiness as browns? If so, can this be solved by lube?

    Thanks

    I have felt a touch of grittyness in new browns but mine don't have any as they are a few years old.  That being said a touch of lube takes all that away and never felt any grittyness in clears.  But lube makes them TONS better.  For what its worth I tried ergo clears (brown springs) with no lube and felt no grittyness there as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 12:05:40
    If I wanted to swap the two LEDs in the upper right of a filco majestouch 2 from the original red to white, what LEDs should I use? Links would be nice :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 December 2013, 12:07:06
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 12:05:40
    If I wanted to swap the two LEDs in the upper right of a filco majestouch 2 from the original red to white, what LEDs should I use? Links would be nice :)

    Think this link would be helpful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0). And I have my personal LED preference in the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:19:38
    I have a question about clacks. There are people who take pictures of clacks filling their entire top number row with clacks. How would that work for people who play games that require lots of numbers to be hit? I use numbers constantly in starcraft 2. Double tapping them aggressively for hours. Are clacks made well enough to withstand that type of torture? How difficult are they to actually press, given their unique texture. Is it really counter intuitive?

    Also, the WASD clacks - what profile would they be considered? I have to assume that one of the 4 (the one that would be placed on W) is taller than the other 3, correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:22:51
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:19:38
    I have a question about clacks. There are people who take pictures of clacks filling their entire top number row with clacks. How would that work for people who play games that require lots of numbers to be hit? I use numbers constantly in starcraft 2. Double tapping them aggressively for hours. Are clacks made well enough to withstand that type of torture? How difficult are they to actually press, given their unique texture. Is it really counter intuitive?

    They'll be fine and feel a little raised or textured. I've been using Clacks on my daily drivers on the arrow keys for a while. No issues.

    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:19:38
    Also, the WASD clacks - what profile would they be considered? I have to assume that one of the 4 (the one that would be placed on W) is taller than the other 3, correct?

    Clacks have their own profiles I think. They're taller than cherry and I think slightly shorter than OEM. They're all the same so W is the proper height for the "Clack" profile. Not any taller. I have an arrow cluster, it's the same thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:28:32
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:19:38
    I have a question about clacks. There are people who take pictures of clacks filling their entire top number row with clacks. How would that work for people who play games that require lots of numbers to be hit? I use numbers constantly in starcraft 2. Double tapping them aggressively for hours. Are clacks made well enough to withstand that type of torture? How difficult are they to actually press, given their unique texture. Is it really counter intuitive?

    Also, the WASD clacks - what profile would they be considered? I have to assume that one of the 4 (the one that would be placed on W) is taller than the other 3, correct?

    Also most of the time when you rows full of clacks I think that is just for photos.....but you never know...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:30:17
    What's the proper way to use The_Beast switch tool? I can't figure it out for some reason.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:30:49
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:30:17
    What's the proper way to use The_Beast switch tool? I can't figure it out for some reason.
    There are two ways actually.  If the switch it mounted to a plate with the cutouts making the switch top removable, you stick the two rectangles in the little holes on the topside of the switch.  They should look like little wings.  Then push the two metal tools together and the housing top should slide off.  If the switch isn't mounted you can use the two rectangle tip things to pry the clips up.  If you look on the sides of the switches there are 2 pairs of clips (these are located under the holes on top) you can slide the tool under those, gently pry outwards and up.  Make sure you hold that side of the switch open with your finger and do the same to the other side.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:35:10
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:30:17
    What's the proper way to use The_Beast switch tool? I can't figure it out for some reason.

    Just linked you here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46160.msg1152837#msg1152837). Some of the older tools didn't have the same QC and might not work as well. Check the OP of the link to see how I did it the other way. The picture shown is the design intent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nzhao20 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:55:16
    Thanks for answering my question earlier! :)
    I'm going to try to test ergo, 65g and regular clears and i heard that lube is extremely important. I heard that silicon teflan lubricant can work, and also a mixture of superlube grease and oil. Which one should i use? How should i apply the silicon lube, because many guides talk about a grease and an oil, and i would prefer to just use one. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:57:13
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:55:16
    I'm going to try to test ergo, 65g and regular clears and i heard that lube is extremely important. Which one should i use? How should i apply the silicon lube, because many guides talk about a grease and an oil, and i would prefer to just use one. Thanks!

    I recommend this lube kit (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/lube-kit) from Sheraton which will work fine for lubing your keyboard. Has all the tools you need to apply the lube as well.

    Edit: I agree with the post below. Superlube is only for stabilizers, not switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:58:42
    I don't know who spread this rumor that SuperLube could be used to lube switches, but it stops right here and now.

    DO NOT USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE YOUR MX SWITCHES!!!

    DON'T DO IT!!! DON'T USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE SWITCHES!!!

    Okay? Okay.

    Krytox = yes
    RO-59 = yes
    Teflon lubricants = maybe
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:59:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:35:10
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:30:17
    What's the proper way to use The_Beast switch tool? I can't figure it out for some reason.

    Just linked you here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46160.msg1152837#msg1152837). Some of the older tools didn't have the same QC and might not work as well. Check the OP of the link to see how I did it the other way. The picture shown is the design intent.

    That's how I do it. Mine is from jcrouse, I think its from the older tools with less QC because its a bit thick on one of the tabs sticking out so its not 100% smooth. Going to see if sandpaper can take it out tho
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:40:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:58:42
    I don't know who spread this rumor that SuperLube could be used to lube switches, but it stops right here and now.

    DO NOT USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE YOUR MX SWITCHES!!!

    DON'T DO IT!!! DON'T USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE SWITCHES!!!

    Okay? Okay.

    Krytox = yes
    RO-59 = yes
    Teflon lubricants = maybe

    What is the reason for this?  I did not desolder my filco, but I used a very small brush and depressed the switch and painted the side tracks with a very light coat of superlube and it helped a lot. 

    Is the recommendation not to use suberlube based on how it ages or what?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:41:35
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:40:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:58:42
    I don't know who spread this rumor that SuperLube could be used to lube switches, but it stops right here and now.

    DO NOT USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE YOUR MX SWITCHES!!!

    DON'T DO IT!!! DON'T USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE SWITCHES!!!

    Okay? Okay.

    Krytox = yes
    RO-59 = yes
    Teflon lubricants = maybe

    What is the reason for this?  I did not desolder my filco, but I used a very small brush and depressed the switch and painted the side tracks with a very light coat of superlube and it helped a lot. 

    Is the recommendation not to use suberlube based on how it ages or what?

    So you just lubed the stem?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:45:42
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:40:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:58:42
    I don't know who spread this rumor that SuperLube could be used to lube switches, but it stops right here and now.

    DO NOT USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE YOUR MX SWITCHES!!!

    DON'T DO IT!!! DON'T USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE SWITCHES!!!

    Okay? Okay.

    Krytox = yes
    RO-59 = yes
    Teflon lubricants = maybe

    What is the reason for this?  I did not desolder my filco, but I used a very small brush and depressed the switch and painted the side tracks with a very light coat of superlube and it helped a lot. 

    Is the recommendation not to use suberlube based on how it ages or what?

    From others' experience:

    Quote from: limmy on Sun, 16 September 2012, 01:53:00
    There are several variants of Krytox lubricants. Some are widely used and are available in small quantity, some are not. If purchased in small quantity, say 1 oz, shipped price is close to $40, which I think is prohibitive for many people. If purchased in larger quantity, it is still expensive. 500g container goes over $200.

    I didn't start my lube journey with Krytox. I tried to explore with cheaper alternative first, but after I experienced Krytox, I didn't really feel necessary to look at any other lube. It was that good. I tried superlube, some lube that I could get for cheap at Home Depot, reel oils, and etc. First, they weren't good enough (that is why I continually searched for alternative and began spending bigger $$ on lubes). Second, safety on rubber and plastic were not guaranteed for the cheap lubes since they lacked proper documents(spec sheets and etc).

    My initial search for lube was intended to be used on my aging HHKB, so it had to be rubber and plastic safe. Krytox was well known lube solution for Cherry switches among Korean community, yet I didn't know how to get them and I was hopeful that there were good enough alternatives hence my search began. There may be cheaper and equally good solution, but I quickly learned from my search in cheap lube that cheap solutions don't usually work as it should. I am not an expert in lube by no means, so my search in consumer level lube may have been bound to fail and Krytox is probably an overkill. I just don't know of good enough solution that performs as well as Krytox in keyboards though. If I knew I would have recommended them, but I can only recommend and compare the lube that I have experienced and tested.

    Edit: You could use SuperLube oil on the springs in place of Victorinox Tool Oil. But that's it. I wouldn't lube my stems with SuperLube any day, when Krytox is available.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 December 2013, 18:48:15
    Ok thanks. Ya I was using superlube grease.  It does say on the container that it is rubber and plastic safe.

    I have some krytox coming, but I have not had a chance to try it yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 10 December 2013, 21:11:33
    I think eventually the super lube could dry out, or its so thick that it slowly sinks to the bottom of the switch and makes it feel bad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Tue, 10 December 2013, 23:31:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:45:42
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:40:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:58:42
    I don't know who spread this rumor that SuperLube could be used to lube switches, but it stops right here and now.

    DO NOT USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE YOUR MX SWITCHES!!!

    DON'T DO IT!!! DON'T USE SUPERLUBE TO LUBE SWITCHES!!!

    Okay? Okay.

    Krytox = yes
    RO-59 = yes
    Teflon lubricants = maybe

    What is the reason for this?  I did not desolder my filco, but I used a very small brush and depressed the switch and painted the side tracks with a very light coat of superlube and it helped a lot. 

    Is the recommendation not to use suberlube based on how it ages or what?

    From others' experience:

    Quote from: limmy on Sun, 16 September 2012, 01:53:00
    There are several variants of Krytox lubricants. Some are widely used and are available in small quantity, some are not. If purchased in small quantity, say 1 oz, shipped price is close to $40, which I think is prohibitive for many people. If purchased in larger quantity, it is still expensive. 500g container goes over $200.

    I didn't start my lube journey with Krytox. I tried to explore with cheaper alternative first, but after I experienced Krytox, I didn't really feel necessary to look at any other lube. It was that good. I tried superlube, some lube that I could get for cheap at Home Depot, reel oils, and etc. First, they weren't good enough (that is why I continually searched for alternative and began spending bigger $$ on lubes). Second, safety on rubber and plastic were not guaranteed for the cheap lubes since they lacked proper documents(spec sheets and etc).

    My initial search for lube was intended to be used on my aging HHKB, so it had to be rubber and plastic safe. Krytox was well known lube solution for Cherry switches among Korean community, yet I didn't know how to get them and I was hopeful that there were good enough alternatives hence my search began. There may be cheaper and equally good solution, but I quickly learned from my search in cheap lube that cheap solutions don't usually work as it should. I am not an expert in lube by no means, so my search in consumer level lube may have been bound to fail and Krytox is probably an overkill. I just don't know of good enough solution that performs as well as Krytox in keyboards though. If I knew I would have recommended them, but I can only recommend and compare the lube that I have experienced and tested.

    Edit: You could use SuperLube oil on the springs in place of Victorinox Tool Oil. But that's it. I wouldn't lube my stems with SuperLube any day, when Krytox is available.

    First of all, that's way overreacting. Have you tried Superlube for switches? I have and had comparable results with using krytox mixtures. It is perfectly plastic safe.

    Referring to the fact that you can lube switches using superlube as a rumor seems to infer malicious intent, which I assure you is not the case. I didn't have access to krytox at the time, tried an alternative and simply reported my results. How is this a rumor?

    I have used superlube as a grease alone, as a mixture with its oil for switches, and this was over a period of 3-4 months of daily typing on a board lubed with Superlube grease alone, and with grease/oil mixtures later. It doesn't harm the switch in anyway, and while I can tell the difference between the krytox mixture and my superlube mixture in use, the feel is not inferior in anyway, just different.

    The only reason why I went with Krytox in the end was because of the way Superlube degrades. I have opened up the switches months after to do further mods and found that Superlube yellows after exposure to air. That's about it. I have found that krytox doesn't suffer from the same issue, and have similarly reported it when comparing lubes. That doesn't mean that Superlube can't be used.

    That said, if anyone is looking to look lube their board once and never touch it again, there is no reason they shouldn't just go for krytox now, especially with the availability of krytox mixtures now from mkawa and originative, compared to six months ago, when the difference in cost was much higher (25 for a tube of 205, and almost 20 for 103 after shipping (which was really hard to get, except from the two gbs ran by Jocelyn and you respectively), for a total of 45usd in krytox lube, compared to 15 bucks for a large quantity superlube grease and oil).

    Comparatively, the krytox is the better choice now since you could get krytox for 13.50 at originative. If this had been available back then, I probably wouldn't have bothered with superlube in the first place.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yjfknt on Wed, 11 December 2013, 00:23:10
    What sizes are the left (CTRL/ALT/SHIFT) of kbt pure pro?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 11 December 2013, 02:02:18
    Quote from: yjfknt on Wed, 11 December 2013, 00:23:10
    What sizes are the left (CTRL/ALT/SHIFT) of kbt pure pro?
    shift is 1x
    ctrl/alt is 1.25x?  Maybe something non standard.

    What a ****ty layout wtf.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 11 December 2013, 03:05:41
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Wed, 11 December 2013, 02:02:18
    Quote from: yjfknt on Wed, 11 December 2013, 00:23:10
    What sizes are the left (CTRL/ALT/SHIFT) of kbt pure pro?
    shift is 1x
    ctrl/alt is 1.25x?  Maybe something non standard.

    What a ****ty layout wtf.
    where you left and right i'm confused?  :confused:
    i think alt,ctrl is 1.25 shift is.....?1.80/85 maybe :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 11 December 2013, 03:15:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 11 December 2013, 03:05:41
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Wed, 11 December 2013, 02:02:18
    Quote from: yjfknt on Wed, 11 December 2013, 00:23:10
    What sizes are the left (CTRL/ALT/SHIFT) of kbt pure pro?
    shift is 1x
    ctrl/alt is 1.25x?  Maybe something non standard.

    What a ****ty layout wtf.
    where you left and right i'm confused?  :confused:
    i think alt,ctrl is 1.25 shift is.....?1.80/85 maybe :))
    OH I was looking at an ISO layout hahahaha my bad.  R shift looks like 1.75
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:08:31
    Quote from: Larken on Tue, 10 December 2013, 23:31:48
    First of all, that's way overreacting. Have you tried Superlube for switches? I have and had comparable results with using krytox mixtures. It is perfectly plastic safe.

    Referring to the fact that you can lube switches using superlube as a rumor seems to infer malicious intent, which I assure you is not the case. I didn't have access to krytox at the time, tried an alternative and simply reported my results. How is this a rumor?

    I have used superlube as a grease alone, as a mixture with its oil for switches, and this was over a period of 3-4 months of daily typing on a board lubed with Superlube grease alone, and with grease/oil mixtures later. It doesn't harm the switch in anyway, and while I can tell the difference between the krytox mixture and my superlube mixture in use, the feel is not inferior in anyway, just different.

    The only reason why I went with Krytox in the end was because of the way Superlube degrades. I have opened up the switches months after to do further mods and found that Superlube yellows after exposure to air. That's about it. I have found that krytox doesn't suffer from the same issue, and have similarly reported it when comparing lubes. That doesn't mean that Superlube can't be used.

    That said, if anyone is looking to look lube their board once and never touch it again, there is no reason they shouldn't just go for krytox now, especially with the availability of krytox mixtures now from mkawa and originative, compared to six months ago, when the difference in cost was much higher (25 for a tube of 205, and almost 20 for 103 after shipping (which was really hard to get, except from the two gbs ran by Jocelyn and you respectively), for a total of 45usd in krytox lube, compared to 15 bucks for a large quantity superlube grease and oil).

    Comparatively, the krytox is the better choice now since you could get krytox for 13.50 at originative. If this had been available back then, I probably wouldn't have bothered with superlube in the first place.

    Thank you, Larken, for your response and for clearing that up. I wanted to get people's attention, and may have been a bit overemphatic. As you said, there is currently no reason to use SuperLube, when better alternatives are available at a reasonable price. Six months ago, that was definitely not the case.

    I think the tendency is to "lube once and forget." Being that you experienced degradation of the SuperLube, I still recommend against using it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:22:23
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:31:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:26:38
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:25:10
    Is there some place where I can buy small amounts (e.g. 0.5oz vs. 1lb) of Krytox GPL 103? Searches turn up a number of past group-buys.

    Is there a reason you're set on GPL103? You can use this lube kit (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/lube-kit) from Sheraton which will work fine for lubing your keyboard.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I'm already aware of those kits. I realize now that I should have asked a different question:

    I already have GPL 205 and I'm looking for an oil that can be mixed with it. I've heard that GPL 103 mixes well with it, but it's not readily available. Is there another oil that people would recommend mixing with GPL 205 that's more easily acquired?

    It turns out that Miller-Stephenson sells 1/2 oz. bottles of GPL 103, though ordering involves actually calling them and requires a company name because "they won't sell to individuals". I gave them the name of my employer and used my personal card. Total was $21 plus shipping.

    http://www.miller-stephenson.com/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:45:42
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:08:31

    Thank you, Larken, for your response and for clearing that up. I wanted to get people's attention, and may have been a bit overemphatic. As you said, there is currently no reason to use SuperLube, when better alternatives are available at a reasonable price. Six months ago, that was definitely not the case.

    I think the tendency is to "lube once and forget." Being that you experienced degradation of the SuperLube, I still recommend against using it.

    No argument from me there. It might have been a viable alternative in the past due to budget/availability concerns, but there isn't any reason to be using Superlube now that krytox is easily obtainable at comparable prices.  Not that it can't be used, but that there isn't any point to be using it now, really. I thought I should say something since I was just pmed with a query asking about mixing superlube.

    That said, I agree with you that people should be looking at krytox for their lubing needs instead.

    Thanks for clearing that up :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:49:06
    Is it ever recommended to try and lube switches without actually opening them up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:51:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:49:06
    Is it ever recommended to try and lube switches without actually opening them up?

    I would recommend opening the switches up. There's not guarantee the lube will get to the friction points if you don't open it up and just put lube in the top. I've been reading that it works but I'd rather just do it the right way. Lubing my Epsilon took about 2 hours. It wasn't bad in terms of a time investment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:26:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:49:06
    Is it ever recommended to try and lube switches without actually opening them up?

    You participated in this thread... :D

    Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 25 June 2013, 03:57:23
    Quote from: calavera on Tue, 25 June 2013, 01:37:10
    You can try shooting some lube with a needle while pressing on the slider though lol

    I actually don't recommend this. You can only get the top part of the rails on the housing by doing this. And in order for the lube to disperse (even while repeatedly pressing down), you'll need to put a decent amount. With lubing switches, you only want a thin but even layer, not a lot and all in one place.

    OP, just do it the correct way. Otherwise, I personally don't think it'll be worth the time to ghetto lube them.

    Quote from: Larken on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:45:58
    any grease form of lube when not apply specifically (meaning a thin film where it should go) will most like clog up the entire switch. I wouldn't advise it at all, unless you want to desolder that switch later and swap it out.

    source; personal experience, but not on a plate mounted board.

    Quote from: Larken on Thu, 27 June 2013, 04:26:00
    A low viscosity grease would work for lubricating the internals of a switch, thus, if the mechlube2 is one, there should be no issue using it for lubricating stems indeed. I believe it was The_Ed who tried the original mechlube and reported that it was a bad idea.

    Case in point - Superlube grease that I've been using for the past few months, works fine.

    But the OP is basically asking if he could simply stick the syringe in and squeeze, then hope for the best in terms of improving the switch feel, without actually opening up the switches to do a proper lube job.

    That will not work, because as WFD noted - grease does not flow. There's not much chance that the grease will be applied to the exact contact points required in proper switch lubing. In fact, the only way that can be done is to flood the switch with it, which is a terrible, terrible idea with grease, mainly because the grease will gunk up the entire switch.

    When lubing with grease, only a thin film is required in specific locations of the switch. Oil on the other hand, will flow, but still not a great idea to flood your switches with it either, as it could leak to the pcb in the process.

    TLDR, don't ghetto lube. You might get lucky, but chances are, it won't end well.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:31:59
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:26:24
    You participated in this thread... :D

    You say that like I never do :P

    Ok here's another one and this I actually am interested to know, how do you program a G80-3700?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: adhoc on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:47:03
    Where can one get ISO Poker II?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:58:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:31:59
    Ok here's another one and this I actually am interested to know, how do you program a G80-3700?

    DT has some info on that: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-3700

    Quote from: adhoc on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:47:03
    Where can one get ISO Poker II?

    There is no ISO variant of the Poker II afaik. However the Ducky Mini is a ISO 60%, another alternative is of course the GH60.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: adhoc on Wed, 11 December 2013, 11:02:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:58:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:31:59
    Ok here's another one and this I actually am interested to know, how do you program a G80-3700?

    DT has some info on that: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-3700

    Quote from: adhoc on Wed, 11 December 2013, 10:47:03
    Where can one get ISO Poker II?

    There is no ISO variant of the Poker II afaik. However the Ducky Mini is a ISO 60%, another alternative is of course the GH60.

    There is ISO variant of Poker II, but I can't find it.

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.566784136722634.1073741835.241720585895659&type=3
    http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/faulty-poker-2-t7007.html

    Where could one find this ducky mini and/or GH60?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 11 December 2013, 11:11:49
    Quote from: adhoc on Wed, 11 December 2013, 11:02:31
    There is ISO variant of Poker II, but I can't find it.

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.566784136722634.1073741835.241720585895659&type=3
    http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/faulty-poker-2-t7007.html

    Where could one find this ducky mini and/or GH60?

    Huh how did I miss that... German Amazon has them, check out your local one.
    Ducky Mini is available on a Finnish site: https://www.teraset.net/ducky.php
    Again, there might be local sources. The GH60s will pop up in the classifieds when people start receiving them - that might still take a while.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: adhoc on Wed, 11 December 2013, 11:16:25
    Yeah exactly, from what I read GH60 aren't really available yet...

    we don't have a local Amazon, I order from .de :) thanks for the tip!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 11 December 2013, 11:21:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:49:06
    Is it ever recommended to try and lube switches without actually opening them up?

    I would not say that it is ideal by any stretch, but I did not want to have to desolder my Filco and I wanted to smooth out my browns a bit.  I just painted a thin layer on the side rails with the switch depressed and it 'helped'.  I would not consider it a true lube job, but for 20 mins of work, it improved my board...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 11 December 2013, 11:55:55
    1. What color are the indicator leds on a mx blue filco majestouch 2
    2. Where can I get a custom filco usb cable besides pexon (the shipping is painful)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 December 2013, 12:07:29
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Wed, 11 December 2013, 11:55:55
    1. What color are the indicator leds on a mx blue filco majestouch
    2. Where can I get a custom filco usb cable besides pexon (the shipping is painful)

    1) I have a Ninja MJ2 with MX Blues. Has blue LEDs.

    2) I recommend mimic-cables.com (run by tjcaustin)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 11 December 2013, 12:08:50
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Wed, 11 December 2013, 11:55:55
    1. What color are the indicator leds on a mx blue filco majestouch 2
    2. Where can I get a custom filco usb cable besides pexon (the shipping is painful)

    1. Quick search says blue, keyboardco's site says that as well.
    2. Paranoid, MiMic cables, nubbinator; I think that should be about it.

    Sniped again...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 11 December 2013, 12:12:05
    Thanks again people  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:46:13
    does ergodox has stabilizer in the key that under the thumb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:51:14
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:46:13
    does ergodox has stabilizer in the key that under the thumb?

    I believe most people use them without stabilizers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:04:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:51:14
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:46:13
    does ergodox has stabilizer in the key that under the thumb?

    I believe most people use them without stabilizers
    Really?  What is the reason for that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:06:32
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:04:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:51:14
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:46:13
    does ergodox has stabilizer in the key that under the thumb?

    I believe most people use them without stabilizers
    Really?  What is the reason for that.

    They don't fit properly. I believe you have to glue them in if you want to use them.

    And it's not like they really need stabilizers anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 12 December 2013, 17:24:58
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:04:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:51:14
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:46:13
    does ergodox has stabilizer in the key that under the thumb?

    I believe most people use them without stabilizers
    Really?  What is the reason for that.

    I asked a similar question a few pages earlier. I took a close look at pictures of Ergodox PCB. The wholes under thumbs don't look like those wholes for Cherry stab. So you will have to use plate mounted stab. And as ealier post indicates, a small modification of the clip is required to use plate mounted stab on Ergodox. Even though you could do the mod, it's perfectly fine to use Ergodox without stabs anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 13 December 2013, 00:05:50
    Here is a simple question with a simple answer.  Ivan has confirmed that 15x space bars do exist.  My question is this, what keyboards did the come on and is there any chance that they would be cherry MX mounts?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 13 December 2013, 17:46:15
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 13 December 2013, 00:05:50
    Here is a simple question with a simple answer.  Ivan has confirmed that 15x space bars do exist.  My question is this, what keyboards did the come on and is there any chance that they would be cherry MX mounts?
    PM Ivan  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 December 2013, 17:49:31
    Ivan said in another thread he cant remember the model MKULTRA
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 13 December 2013, 17:50:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 December 2013, 17:49:31
    Ivan said in another thread he cant remember the model MKULTRA
    Ohhhh my bad didn't know this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 13 December 2013, 17:55:38
    is there a kit like the moogle and tsang kits where there are 2X shift and 7 1X bottom row mods?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 December 2013, 18:13:12
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 13 December 2013, 17:55:38
    is there a kit like the moogle and tsang kits where there are 2X shift and 7 1X bottom row mods?

    No
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 13 December 2013, 18:44:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 December 2013, 17:49:31
    Ivan said in another thread he cant remember the model MKULTRA

    Yeah I pm'ed Ivan and he said that while he can't remember what it was exactly but it was similar to a wyse 30 and that it wasn't terminal board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nixietube on Sat, 14 December 2013, 08:50:34
    the kbt poker 2  has no numblock and i was wondering if there is a way to add a unicode sign to the pn layer. i know workarounds like ahk and such but i am looking for a pn layer solution.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: For on Sat, 14 December 2013, 19:39:55
    Where the hell can I get a Ducky shine 3 with Cherry MX green (or alternatively blue) switches, white LEDs and US int layout that will ship to europe.

    I have looked everywhere but the green switch white LED combo can't be found anywhere and the blue switch white LED combo seems to either be in UK layout or not shipped to where I live.
    Do you guys have any ideas on where I can find one, I heard you are the experts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 December 2013, 19:42:33
    Quote from: Nixietube on Sat, 14 December 2013, 08:50:34
    the kbt poker 2  has no numblock and i was wondering if there is a way to add a unicode sign to the pn layer. i know workarounds like ahk and such but i am looking for a pn layer solution.

    I'm not sure on this. Maybe you can do that with the update? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50245.0)

    Quote from: For on Sat, 14 December 2013, 19:39:55
    Where the hell can I get a Ducky shine 3 with Cherry MX green (or alternatively blue) switches, white LEDs and US int layout that will ship to europe.

    I have looked everywhere but the green switch white LED combo can't be found anywhere and the blue switch white LED combo seems to either be in UK layout or not shipped to where I live.
    Do you guys have any ideas on where I can find one, I heard you are the experts.

    vun (who is in the EU) told me that Teraset (https://www.teraset.net/) is probably the best source for Duckys in Europe. Someone in IRC also linked mechanicalkeyboards.nl (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.nl/ten-keyless-model-toetsenborden/ducky-dk9087-shine-2/1) which seems to have what you want. And vun also suggested maxfps.no/.se and gamegear.be.

    I'm not really up on my European distributors though since I'm in the USA. Hopefully someone who knows better can get you an answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: For on Sat, 14 December 2013, 20:08:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 December 2013, 19:42:33
    vun (who is in the EU) told me that Teraset (https://www.teraset.net/) is probably the best source for Duckys in Europe. Someone in IRC also linked mechanicalkeyboards.nl (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.nl/ten-keyless-model-toetsenborden/ducky-dk9087-shine-2/1) which seems to have what you want. And vun also suggested maxfps.no/.se and gamegear.be.

    I'm not really up on my European distributors though since I'm in the USA. Hopefully someone who knows better can get you an answer.

    Thanks for the reply I'll see if any of those have them or know when they'll get them in stock.
    If anyone else has any more post them please.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Sat, 14 December 2013, 20:47:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:22:51
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:19:38
    I have a question about clacks. There are people who take pictures of clacks filling their entire top number row with clacks. How would that work for people who play games that require lots of numbers to be hit? I use numbers constantly in starcraft 2. Double tapping them aggressively for hours. Are clacks made well enough to withstand that type of torture? How difficult are they to actually press, given their unique texture. Is it really counter intuitive?

    They'll be fine and feel a little raised or textured. I've been using Clacks on my daily drivers on the arrow keys for a while. No issues.

    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:19:38
    Also, the WASD clacks - what profile would they be considered? I have to assume that one of the 4 (the one that would be placed on W) is taller than the other 3, correct?

    Clacks have their own profiles I think. They're taller than cherry and I think slightly shorter than OEM. They're all the same so W is the proper height for the "Clack" profile. Not any taller. I have an arrow cluster, it's the same thing.

    I'm asking if the W is taller than the ASD, as it should be on any keyboard since it is in a higher row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 December 2013, 20:50:26
    Quote from: Keytrun on Sat, 14 December 2013, 20:47:58
    I'm asking if the W is taller than the ASD, as it should be on any keyboard since it is in a higher row.

    Higher row =/= taller. Looking at my W and S from my GMK set and these clacks. There are no height differences; it's angle of the keyboard.

    Never mind, bad lighting my room. GMK W and S are different heights but my arrow cluster clacks are the same height.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:24:33
    Not sure what GMK is. I was asking more specifically about getting some of those neat WASD clacks. Is the clack arrow cluster the same as the clack WASD? If not, should I assume that the W and the ASD will be the same height for them? Clack makes those black ones with red spots and those colored ones ( like the octo pink). How weird would that be on a cherry profile keyset? Having different height keys on the board while typing (not gaming) may be really odd, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:27:13
    Quote from: Keytrun on Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:24:33
    Not sure what GMK is. I was asking more specifically about getting some of those neat WASD clacks. Is the clack arrow cluster the same as the clack WASD? If not, should I assume that the W and the ASD will be the same height for them? Clack makes those black ones with red spots and those colored ones ( like the octo pink). How weird would that be on a cherry profile keyset? Having different height keys on the board while typing (not gaming) may be really odd, right?

    GMK is a company that bought cherry's molds.
    Arrow cluster has a different profile.
    Bloodsplat is pretty rare.
    The profile is different from cherry or any other profile, so if you're really picky, its a big deal, otherwise not so much
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:28:15
    Quote from: Keytrun on Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:24:33
    Not sure what GMK is. I was asking more specifically about getting some of those neat WASD clacks. Is the clack arrow cluster the same as the clack WASD? If not, should I assume that the W and the ASD will be the same height for them? Clack makes those black ones with red spots and those colored ones ( like the octo pink). How weird would that be on a cherry profile keyset? Having different height keys on the board while typing (not gaming) may be really odd, right?

    I can answer the different profiles for gaming question.

    (http://i.imgur.com/EUS4XlF.jpg)

    I gamed on this for almost 8 months. During that time, I became a top-tier TF2 medic. I've won some ESEA tourneys in my time. Trust me, it's not that weird, it just takes some getting used to.

    GMK is another OEM for keycaps. They own all the original cherry tooling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:32:58
    Quote from: Keytrun on Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:24:33
    Not sure what GMK is.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.msg1103648#msg1103648

    Quote from: Keytrun on Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:24:33
    Is the clack arrow cluster the same as the clack WASD? If not, should I assume that the W and the ASD will be the same height for them?

    Arrow cluster and WASD will have the same profiling.

    Quote from: Keytrun on Sat, 14 December 2013, 22:24:33
    How weird would that be on a cherry profile keyset? Having different height keys on the board while typing (not gaming) may be really odd, right?

    They will have mismatched profiles. That's why I only have them on the arrow cluster. They're slightly off from the Cherry profile in the WASD cluster and wouldn't feel right for me. Which is what I was getting at in this post.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 December 2013, 14:22:51
    Clacks have their own profiles I think. They're taller than cherry and I think slightly shorter than OEM. They're all the same so W is the proper height for the "Clack" profile. Not any taller. I have an arrow cluster, it's the same thing.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nixietube on Sun, 15 December 2013, 03:55:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 December 2013, 19:42:33
    I'm not sure on this. Maybe you can do that with the update? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50245.0)

    I don't see how that would help. I doesn't add a numblock to any layer so i still can't use unicode. Or am i missing something in the update notes that would make unicodes possibble
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 15 December 2013, 09:37:54
    Can I remove the ferrite bead from a fico usb cable without damaging the cable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 December 2013, 09:54:41
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 15 December 2013, 09:37:54
    Can I remove the ferrite bead from a fico usb cable without damaging the cable?

    To what end? Are you trying to use the Filco in a Vortex aluminum case? I took a pair of pliers and crushed the ferrite bead, making the cable fit nicely in that case. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 15 December 2013, 10:15:50
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 December 2013, 09:54:41
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 15 December 2013, 09:37:54
    Can I remove the ferrite bead from a fico usb cable without damaging the cable?

    To what end? Are you trying to use the Filco in a Vortex aluminum case? I took a pair of pliers and crushed the ferrite bead, making the cable fit nicely in that case. :)
    Yup, that is what I am doing, I thought I could do that but wasn't sure. :)

    I am going to put a custom cable on it soon but didn't want to not be able to use it until then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spremino on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:45:02
    Is the Unicomp SpaceSaver M for Mac OS X compatible with PCs?

    I don't mind about different key codes because I can remap them, nor I care about key caps letterings because I use blank keys. I know I will have only two LEDs instead of three.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:48:41
    Any talk of an HHKB Aluminum Case that can be built by anyone here or not here? I saw the Realforce cases and I saw an IC from May.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:53:33
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:48:41
    Any talk of an HHKB Aluminum Case that can be built by anyone here or not here? I saw the Realforce cases and I saw an IC from May.

    The problem with and alu HHKB case is that the switches are mounted to the case.

    The Realforce doesn't have that problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ithinkimkorean on Sun, 15 December 2013, 18:27:24
    http://uspsstore.stamps.com/Store/catalog/product.jsp?id=pmfrpe&navAction=jump&navCount=1

    I can just buy something like this for shipping keys? And the mailman just picks it up? .-. Lol too lazy to go drive to the post office.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 15 December 2013, 18:43:45
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Sun, 15 December 2013, 18:27:24
    http://uspsstore.stamps.com/Store/catalog/product.jsp?id=pmfrpe&navAction=jump&navCount=1

    I can just buy something like this for shipping keys? And the mailman just picks it up? .-. Lol too lazy to go drive to the post office.

    What are you shipping and where??

    You can get small flat rate priority boxes for free.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ithinkimkorean on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:19:08
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 15 December 2013, 18:43:45
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Sun, 15 December 2013, 18:27:24
    http://uspsstore.stamps.com/Store/catalog/product.jsp?id=pmfrpe&navAction=jump&navCount=1

    I can just buy something like this for shipping keys? And the mailman just picks it up? .-. Lol too lazy to go drive to the post office.

    What are you shipping and where??

    You can get small flat rate priority boxes for free.

    need to sell keycaps. probably conus only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:22:46
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:19:08
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 15 December 2013, 18:43:45
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Sun, 15 December 2013, 18:27:24
    http://uspsstore.stamps.com/Store/catalog/product.jsp?id=pmfrpe&navAction=jump&navCount=1

    I can just buy something like this for shipping keys? And the mailman just picks it up? .-. Lol too lazy to go drive to the post office.

    What are you shipping and where??

    You can get small flat rate priority boxes for free.

    need to sell keycaps. probably conus only.

    You would be better off with the free small flat rate boxes, if it fits it ships for ~$5.15
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:26:11
    Quote from: spremino on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:45:02
    Is the Unicomp SpaceSaver M for Mac OS X compatible with PCs?

    I don't mind about different key codes because I can remap them, nor I care about key caps letterings because I use blank keys. I know I will have only two LEDs instead of three.

    Should work. Not 100% sure.

    Quote from: Nixietube on Sun, 15 December 2013, 03:55:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 December 2013, 19:42:33
    I'm not sure on this. Maybe you can do that with the update? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50245.0)

    I don't see how that would help. I doesn't add a numblock to any layer so i still can't use unicode. Or am i missing something in the update notes that would make unicodes possibble

    Like I said, I was taking a random guess. I don't really know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 15 December 2013, 20:52:46
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:53:33
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:48:41
    Any talk of an HHKB Aluminum Case that can be built by anyone here or not here? I saw the Realforce cases and I saw an IC from May.

    The problem with and alu HHKB case is that the switches are mounted to the case.

    The Realforce doesn't have that problem.

    Ohh I didnt know Realforces wernt. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolonelkadat on Sun, 15 December 2013, 23:36:13
    Is there a way to make capslock work with numbers and stuff in windows 7?
    I hate when im typing long lists of consts (eg. SEARCH_PROFSLOT_BOTTOM_Y) and I have to still hit shift for the underscore.

    Im sure I could use ahk but id rather have the OS handle it like it does the rest of my remappings.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 December 2013, 23:54:10
    Quote from: kolonelkadat on Sun, 15 December 2013, 23:36:13
    Is there a way to make capslock work with numbers and stuff in windows 7?
    I hate when im typing long lists of consts (eg. SEARCH_PROFSLOT_BOTTOM_Y) and I have to still hit shift for the underscore.

    Im sure I could use ahk but id rather have the OS handle it like it does the rest of my remappings.

    You need a shift lock key. Replace the MX switch on one of your shift keys with an MX lock switch. Problem solved. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 00:04:02
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 December 2013, 23:54:10
    Quote from: kolonelkadat on Sun, 15 December 2013, 23:36:13
    Is there a way to make capslock work with numbers and stuff in windows 7?
    I hate when im typing long lists of consts (eg. SEARCH_PROFSLOT_BOTTOM_Y) and I have to still hit shift for the underscore.

    Im sure I could use ahk but id rather have the OS handle it like it does the rest of my remappings.

    You need a shift lock key. Replace the MX switch on one of your shift keys with an MX lock switch. Problem solved. :)

    +1 I have done this to my right shift as I do not normally use it. it is a very fast and easy mod and well worth it. good luck finding mx lock switches. 7bit on deskthority might be your best source...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 16 December 2013, 01:15:26
    For solidity acrylic or stainless for plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 16 December 2013, 01:23:25
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 16 December 2013, 01:15:26
    For solidity acrylic or stainless for plate?

    Stainless will have less give than acrylic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 16 December 2013, 02:03:16
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 16 December 2013, 01:23:25
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 16 December 2013, 01:15:26
    For solidity acrylic or stainless for plate?

    Stainless will have less give than acrylic.
    Thanks
    how thick usually?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Mon, 16 December 2013, 02:04:23
    Does the Poker 2 come with THICK PBT or just regular? Whats the difference between standard Pokers 2 and teh one one with LEDs? How easy is it to access F keys? Do I have to hold FN with my right hand and hit a number with my left to get an F key? Or can I just hold a windows key with left + number and have quick easy access? Do I have to autohotkey?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 16 December 2013, 02:17:27
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 16 December 2013, 02:03:16
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 16 December 2013, 01:23:25
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 16 December 2013, 01:15:26
    For solidity acrylic or stainless for plate?

    Stainless will have less give than acrylic.
    Thanks
    how thick usually?

    I had a plate cut out of 16 gauge (~1.5mm) stainless steel and I believe that's the standard around here for stainless.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 03:21:29
    Quote from: Keytrun on Mon, 16 December 2013, 02:04:23
    Does the Poker 2 come with THICK PBT or just regular? Whats the difference between standard Pokers 2 and teh one one with LEDs? How easy is it to access F keys? Do I have to hold FN with my right hand and hit a number with my left to get an F key? Or can I just hold a windows key with left + number and have quick easy access? Do I have to autohotkey?

    Does the Poker 2 come with THICK PBT or just regular? the pbt version comes with pbt and backlit version has abs
    Whats the difference between standard Pokers 2 and teh one one with LEDs? the led version has the led's already soldered. if you get the pbt version you can solder them yourself but it is a pain in the a$$
    How easy is it to access F keys? see the next answer
    Do I have to hold FN with my right hand and hit a number with my left to get an F key?  yes
    Or can I just hold a windows key with left + number and have quick easy access? no
    Do I have to autohotkey? you do not have to do anything you do not want to. :D

    btw this might help you also
    =poker+II&s[title]=Y&s[short_desc]=Y&s[full_desc]=Y&s[sku]=Y&s[match]=all&s[cid]=0]http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[search]=poker+II&s[title]=Y&s[short_desc]=Y&s[full_desc]=Y&s[sku]=Y&s[match]=all&s[cid]=0 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[search)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 16 December 2013, 07:11:41
    SA or DSA which more ergonomic for regular keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 December 2013, 07:45:46
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 16 December 2013, 07:11:41
    SA or DSA which more ergonomic for regular keyboard?

    Personal preference. Neither are inherently more ergonomic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 09:51:45
    I saw this today and I thought... any keys are relegendable!
    :D

    (http://www.key64.org/images/photo-key64.jpg/image_preview)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 16 December 2013, 10:20:03
    anyone know if these are the same yelllow as the yellow caps in the gmk cmyk pack?

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 December 2013, 10:22:25
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 16 December 2013, 10:20:03
    anyone know if these are the same yelllow as the yellow caps in the gmk cmyk pack?

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow)

    Should be, those EK caps are from GMK as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:23:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 16 December 2013, 10:20:03
    anyone know if these are the same yelllow as the yellow caps in the gmk cmyk pack?

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow)

    Compared some images and GMKs color codes, and it looks to be that way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phatdood9 on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:22:24
    how unstable would it be if I soldered plate mount switches directly onto the pcb?

    I have a bunch of plate mount clears here ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:46:37
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 03:21:29
    Quote from: Keytrun on Mon, 16 December 2013, 02:04:23
    Does the Poker 2 come with THICK PBT or just regular? Whats the difference between standard Pokers 2 and teh one one with LEDs? How easy is it to access F keys? Do I have to hold FN with my right hand and hit a number with my left to get an F key? Or can I just hold a windows key with left + number and have quick easy access? Do I have to autohotkey?

    Does the Poker 2 come with THICK PBT or just regular? the pbt version comes with pbt and backlit version has abs
    Whats the difference between standard Pokers 2 and teh one one with LEDs? the led version has the led's already soldered. if you get the pbt version you can solder them yourself but it is a pain in the a$$
    How easy is it to access F keys? see the next answer
    Do I have to hold FN with my right hand and hit a number with my left to get an F key?  yes
    Or can I just hold a windows key with left + number and have quick easy access? no
    Do I have to autohotkey? you do not have to do anything you do not want to. :D

    btw this might help you also
    =poker+II&s[title]=Y&s[short_desc]=Y&s[full_desc]=Y&s[sku]=Y&s[match]=all&s[cid]=0]http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[search]=poker+II&s[title]=Y&s[short_desc]=Y&s[full_desc]=Y&s[sku]=Y&s[match]=all&s[cid]=0 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[search)

    Are all of these 60% boards like that? Are there any 60% boards that have easy, one handed f key access? I thought the DIP switches could be set in a way that the windows key becomes the FN key. I wouldn't mind holding windows + number key to access F keys, but having to use two hands to press F1 is a deal breaker for the gaming that I do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:49:23
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:46:37
    Are all of these 60% boards like that? Are there any 60% boards that have easy, one handed f key access? I thought the DIP switches could be set in a way that the windows key becomes the FN key. I wouldn't mind holding windows + number key to access F keys, but having to use two hands to press F1 is a deal breaker for the gaming that I do.

    Fully programmable keyboards, such as the GH60, allow you to assign any key to any switch location. Even the Fn key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:51:10
    I'm confused now because the guy who responded to my post said that you can't make windows key fn, but according to this, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36434.0 that's exactly what dip switch 4 does...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:51:46
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:46:37
    Are there any 60% boards that have easy, one handed f key access?
    I routinely hit function keys with one hand ... pinky on the Fn key, ring or middle finger on the number key.

    That may not be the answer you were looking for. It certainly isn't the only answer "out there" for your question, as JDcarpe points out, above.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:57:02
    Quote from: Keytrun on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:51:10
    I'm confused now because the guy who responded to my post said that you can't make windows key fn, but according to this, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36434.0 that's exactly what dip switch 4 does...


    Poker 2 isn't fully programmable right? Thought it just had two layers that you could reprogram but the base layer where the Fn lies is what it is.

    Also, what you're reading is a post from 2012 so it's referring to the Poker X or Poker 1 or the original Poker. Not the same keyboard as Poker 2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 December 2013, 15:00:46
    Quote from: phatdood9 on Tue, 17 December 2013, 14:22:24
    how unstable would it be if I soldered plate mount switches directly onto the pcb?

    I have a bunch of plate mount clears here ...

    Probably very unstable.

    Exchange them in the classified for some PCB mount ones, I guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 17 December 2013, 15:08:46
    I play cs:go with a poker layout. I can autobuy just fine. But you shouldn't use autobuy anyways. It is considered "noob".

    Poker 2 has a pn and fn layer. The pn layer is the programable layer. You still have to hold the pn key first.

    You could just change tge ingame binding to use something other then f1 :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:15:22
    I don't know where to ask this question, so I will ask it here...  Please tell me to take it somewhere else if it is not a simple question.

    A friend of mine at the office has been using my QFR with blues.  Today he showed me that some of the key presses are not registering.  The ones that are really noticeable are: 5, t, b and left alt.  I noticed right away that 5, t, b are probably on the same matrix line.  Left alt is another story, but that key gets used a lot because he is using the keyboard on a mac (so its his command key).

    So to the question.  How do I troubleshoot the problem?  I am guessing there is a problem with a couple solder joints are something like that.  It works a lot of the time, but periodically it misses a key press.  Some of those keys are worse than others.  Should I unsolder those switches and then resolder them and see if that fixes the problem?  Anything I can test with a multimeter which would help diagnose where the problem stems from?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:16:45
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:15:22
    I don't know where to ask this question, so I will ask it here...  Please tell me to take it somewhere else if it is not a simple question.

    A friend of mine at the office has been using my QFR with blues.  Today he showed me that some of the key presses are not registering.  The ones that are really noticeable are: 5, t, b and left alt.  I noticed right away that 5, t, b are probably on the same matrix line.  Left alt is another story, but that key gets used a lot because he is using the keyboard on a mac (so its his command key).

    So to the question.  How do I troubleshoot the problem?  I am guessing there is a problem with a couple solder joints are something like that.  It works a lot of the time, but periodically it misses a key press.  Some of those keys are worse than others.  Should I unsolder those switches and then resolder them and see if that fixes the problem?  Anything I can test with a multimeter which would help diagnose where the problem stems from?

    You can test the connectivity of the joint with the multimeter and then check to see if they solder joints are ok. Solder joints should be shiny, not dull.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:21:00
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:15:22
    I don't know where to ask this question, so I will ask it here...  Please tell me to take it somewhere else if it is not a simple question.

    A friend of mine at the office has been using my QFR with blues.  Today he showed me that some of the key presses are not registering.  The ones that are really noticeable are: 5, t, b and left alt.  I noticed right away that 5, t, b are probably on the same matrix line.  Left alt is another story, but that key gets used a lot because he is using the keyboard on a mac (so its his command key).

    So to the question.  How do I troubleshoot the problem?  I am guessing there is a problem with a couple solder joints are something like that.  It works a lot of the time, but periodically it misses a key press.  Some of those keys are worse than others.  Should I unsolder those switches and then resolder them and see if that fixes the problem?  Anything I can test with a multimeter which would help diagnose where the problem stems from?

    I know some older QFR's had problems with screws being too tight and it affected the board in a similar fashion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1pq on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:22:31
    Has anyone modded a FC660C to 55g? How does it feel compared to 55g Realforces/55g modded HHKBs?
    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:23:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:21:00
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:15:22
    I don't know where to ask this question, so I will ask it here...  Please tell me to take it somewhere else if it is not a simple question.

    A friend of mine at the office has been using my QFR with blues.  Today he showed me that some of the key presses are not registering.  The ones that are really noticeable are: 5, t, b and left alt.  I noticed right away that 5, t, b are probably on the same matrix line.  Left alt is another story, but that key gets used a lot because he is using the keyboard on a mac (so its his command key).

    So to the question.  How do I troubleshoot the problem?  I am guessing there is a problem with a couple solder joints are something like that.  It works a lot of the time, but periodically it misses a key press.  Some of those keys are worse than others.  Should I unsolder those switches and then resolder them and see if that fixes the problem?  Anything I can test with a multimeter which would help diagnose where the problem stems from?

    I know some older QFR's had problems with screws being too tight and it affected the board in a similar fashion.

    If that's what you think is going on swill, you can open the case, put a bit of drawer liner between the case and PCB, then close it back up. Might want to try that first actually since it's an easy fix.

    Quote from: 1pq on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:22:31
    Has anyone modded a FC660C to 55g? How does it feel compared to 55g Realforces/55g modded HHKBs?
    Thanks!

    Wouldn't it feel the same as a Realforce, just in a different form factor? HHKBs are case mounted. Anyways, if you do a Google search, you can find plenty of 45g vs 55g Topre discussions on GeekHack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:27:30
    Thanks Cptn and Ray.  I will try the drawer liner thing first and then work my towards the more technical/invasive suggestions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 17 December 2013, 17:07:26
    Swill... it may still be under warranty also... check that befoe you open it and contact support for a rma.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 17:14:12

    [q uote author=domoaligato link=topic=40501.msg1162388#msg1162388 date=1387321646]
    Swill... it may still be under warranty also... check that befoe you open it and contact support for a rma.
    [/quote]

    True. I will check that. Thx.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolonelkadat on Tue, 17 December 2013, 17:25:18
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 December 2013, 23:54:10
    Quote from: kolonelkadat on Sun, 15 December 2013, 23:36:13
    Is there a way to make capslock work with numbers and stuff in windows 7?
    I hate when im typing long lists of consts (eg. SEARCH_PROFSLOT_BOTTOM_Y) and I have to still hit shift for the underscore.

    Im sure I could use ahk but id rather have the OS handle it like it does the rest of my remappings.
    You need a shift lock key. Replace the MX switch on one of your shift keys with an MX lock switch. Problem solved. :)
    genius level solution. thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1pq on Tue, 17 December 2013, 17:43:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:23:27
    Wouldn't it feel the same as a Realforce, just in a different form factor? HHKBs are case mounted. Anyways, if you do a Google search, you can find plenty of 45g vs 55g Topre discussions on GeekHack.

    I've heard a lot about 45g vs 55g already; I'm more interested in the subtleties of different topre boards. Most people I've talked to say that the HHKB, FC660C, and Realforce boards have very different feels, even when comparing 45g models. I was wondering if any topre officionatos here, who often talk about their beloved 55g 87Us and 55g modded HHKBs have ever tried modding a FC660C. Many say that the FC660C actually feels closer to a 55g RF, so I was wondering what it would feel like with 55g switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 17 December 2013, 18:06:24
    The difference in feel is contributed to many different factors.

    To compare a realforce 45g to a realforce 55g is a much easier thing to do. They have the same case design.

    To compare an fc660c hhkb rf against each other just doesn't work because of the case differences.
    If comparing one 45g against another it is mostly personal preference based on the layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 17 December 2013, 20:21:38
    are the ibm POS computer+keyboard thingies that many stores use to sell things have buckling or rubber domes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 21:07:02
    If I was to look for 5 alps switches to replace some broken ones on an Apple Extended Keyboard II, how should I go about that?  Classifieds I guess?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 December 2013, 21:09:15
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 21:07:02
    If I was to look for 5 alps switches to replace some broken ones on an Apple Extended Keyboard II, how should I go about that?  Classifieds I guess?

    Yeah, that's about it for options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 17 December 2013, 22:10:21
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 17 December 2013, 20:21:38
    are the ibm POS computer+keyboard thingies that many stores use to sell things have buckling or rubber domes?

    Rubber dome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 00:20:01
    What is the standard angle that most keyboards are at (without their feet up).  For some reason 7º is sticking in my head, but I have no idea if that is even close to correct.  Any ideas or resources on this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 18 December 2013, 00:24:10
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 00:20:01
    What is the standard angle that most keyboards are at (without their feet up).  For some reason 7º is sticking in my head, but I have no idea if that is even close to correct.  Any ideas or resources on this?
    Filco is 5.5deg with feet down, 10deg with feet up (roughly, and off the top of my head)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolonelkadat on Wed, 18 December 2013, 05:33:17
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 00:20:01
    What is the standard angle that most keyboards are at (without their feet up).  For some reason 7º is sticking in my head, but I have no idea if that is even close to correct.  Any ideas or resources on this?
    with just some imprecise measurements, It looks like my corsair is right around 4 degrees.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 18 December 2013, 06:33:14
    what stainless can be  wraped/bent? like maltron/kinesis
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 December 2013, 06:42:28
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 21:07:02
    If I was to look for 5 alps switches to replace some broken ones on an Apple Extended Keyboard II, how should I go about that?  Classifieds I guess?

    You can buy matias alps switches from http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=52

    They have a 5 pack. They won't be exactly the same as what's on your keyboard but they should work.

    But I know there have been some alps switches for sale in the classifieds recently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:19:47
    Why do some whites click inconsistently? I've heard that they come pre-lubed, and I know that incorrectly- or over-lubing clicky switches can kill the click; if this is the cause in non-clicking or weirdly-clicking whites, can cleaning out the switch and re-lubing it help?

    Do people commonly make "ergo-whites," to basically make lubed blues with a softer click?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:26:15
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:19:47
    Why do some whites click inconsistently? I've heard that they come pre-lubed, and I know that incorrectly- or over-lubing clicky switches can kill the click; if this is the cause in non-clicking or weirdly-clicking whites, can cleaning out the switch and re-lubing it help?

    Do people commonly make "ergo-whites," to basically make lubed blues with a softer click?

    So I opened up some White switches recently and didn't notice any lube. I no longer believe Whites have more lube beyond the standard factory lubing. I'm not really sure why they click inconsistently. Issues with the manufacturing tolerances I imagine. There were similar issues with Blues and Greens. Cleaning the switch may help.

    Ergo Whites are just Whites with a swapped spring. I personally really like MX Black Spring with an MX White Stem. Lubed MX Blues feel like Browns to me. There's no Click like the Whites have.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:52:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:26:15
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:19:47
    Why do some whites click inconsistently? I've heard that they come pre-lubed, and I know that incorrectly- or over-lubing clicky switches can kill the click; if this is the cause in non-clicking or weirdly-clicking whites, can cleaning out the switch and re-lubing it help?

    Do people commonly make "ergo-whites," to basically make lubed blues with a softer click?

    So I opened up some White switches recently and didn't notice any lube. I no longer believe Whites have more lube beyond the standard factory lubing. I'm not really sure why they click inconsistently. Issues with the manufacturing tolerances I imagine. There were similar issues with Blues and Greens. Cleaning the switch may help.

    Ergo Whites are just Whites with a swapped spring. I personally really like MX Black Spring with an MX White Stem. Lubed MX Blues feel like Browns to me. There's no Click like the Whites have.

    Do you know if sherryton's 80g springs are close to the springs from blacks? Cherry black springs are rated at 60g, but my understanding is that that's at the point of actuation while the springs on originative are rated at the point where they're fully depressed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:53:40
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:52:01
    1) Do you know if sherryton's 80g springs are close to the springs from blacks?

    2) Cherry black springs are rated at 60g, but my understanding is that that's at the point of actuation while the springs on originative are rated at the point where they're fully depressed.

    1) I've been told they are, yes.

    2) Yes, the Originativeco springs and Korean springs are measured at bottom out. Cherry is measured at acutation point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:58:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:53:40
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 18 December 2013, 12:52:01
    1) Do you know if sherryton's 80g springs are close to the springs from blacks?

    2) Cherry black springs are rated at 60g, but my understanding is that that's at the point of actuation while the springs on originative are rated at the point where they're fully depressed.

    1) I've been told they are, yes.

    2) Yes, the Originativeco springs and Korean springs are measured at bottom out. Cherry is measured at acutation point.

    Great. Thanks so much for your help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nixietube on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:12:28
    I am looking for a seperate numbpad with cherry mx blue switches that visually fits a poker. I really like the  Leopold FC 210TP  but the top row seems out of place. Is there a numbpad like the one i am looking for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:16:27
    Quote from: Nixietube on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:12:28
    I am looking for a seperate numbpad with cherry mx blue switches that visually fits a poker. I really like the  Leopold FC 210TP  but the top row seems out of place. Is there a numbpad like the one i am looking for?

    What do you mean by "visually fits"? Layouts look similar? Same color? Same profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nixietube on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:19:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:16:27
    Quote from: Nixietube on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:12:28
    I am looking for a seperate numbpad with cherry mx blue switches that visually fits a poker. I really like the  Leopold FC 210TP  but the top row seems out of place. Is there a numbpad like the one i am looking for?

    What do you mean by "visually fits"? Layouts look similar? Same color? Same profile?

    The numblock has one row "too much" to fit with a keyboard that has no dedicated F key row
    The overall design is great... just to many rows.
    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/tp210_059_th0x0.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:22:44
    I have never seen a dedicated numpad with only 5 rows.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nixietube on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:24:44
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:22:44
    I have never seen a dedicated numpad with only 5 rows.

    this one has 5 but is so big it could have held 6...

    (http://shop.tsukumo.co.jp/img/tsukumo/060422b05b.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:26:31

    Quote from: Nixietube on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:24:44
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:22:44
    I have never seen a dedicated numpad with only 5 rows.

    this one has 5 but is so big it could have held 6...

    Show Image
    (http://shop.tsukumo.co.jp/img/tsukumo/060422b05b.jpg)


    GHPad. It's not ready yet, but there will be a group buy once the PCB is tested and finished.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nixietube on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:34:08
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:26:31
    GHPad. It's not ready yet, but there will be a group buy once the PCB is tested and finished.

    thanks, i guess i'll wait for that or have to live with the leopold extra row
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:39:03
    Quote from: Nixietube on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:19:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:16:27
    Quote from: Nixietube on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:12:28
    I am looking for a seperate numbpad with cherry mx blue switches that visually fits a poker. I really like the  Leopold FC 210TP  but the top row seems out of place. Is there a numbpad like the one i am looking for?

    What do you mean by "visually fits"? Layouts look similar? Same color? Same profile?

    The numblock has one row "too much" to fit with a keyboard that has no dedicated F key row
    The overall design is great... just to many rows.
    Show Image
    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/tp210_059_th0x0.jpg)


    Off the top of my head? GHPad:

    (http://blog.komar.be/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/P1030543.jpg)
    Seen top right from Komar (http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/)

    And the Filco Tenkeypad:
    (http://i.imgur.com/rvr1uej.jpg)
    Picture from my review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39992.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:00:44
    I know the difference between PCB and Plate mounted switches.  Basically the PCB mounted ones have extra plastic tabs that hold the switch to the PCB.  If a PCB has the holes for PCB mounted switches, you can use them with or without a plate.

    I am wondering if the same thing is true for PCB vs Plate mounted stabilizers?  Is it exactly the same principle or is there any other reason why you could not use a PCB mount stabilizer with a plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:08:02
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:00:44
    I know the difference between PCB and Plate mounted switches.  Basically the PCB mounted ones have extra plastic tabs that hold the switch to the PCB.  If a PCB has the holes for PCB mounted switches, you can use them with or without a plate.

    I am wondering if the same thing is true for PCB vs Plate mounted stabilizers?  Is it exactly the same principle or is there any other reason why you could not use a PCB mount stabilizer with a plate?

    You can use a PCB mounted stabilizers on a plate mounted board; it just needs receiving holes in the PCB for the legs. Just can't use a plate mounted stabilizer on a PCB stabilizer mount only PCB.

    My KMAC has Cherry PCB stabilizers on a plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:16:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:08:02
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:00:44
    I know the difference between PCB and Plate mounted switches.  Basically the PCB mounted ones have extra plastic tabs that hold the switch to the PCB.  If a PCB has the holes for PCB mounted switches, you can use them with or without a plate.

    I am wondering if the same thing is true for PCB vs Plate mounted stabilizers?  Is it exactly the same principle or is there any other reason why you could not use a PCB mount stabilizer with a plate?

    You can use a PCB mounted stabilizers on a plate mounted board; it just needs receiving holes in the PCB for the legs. Just can't use a plate mounted stabilizer on a PCB stabilizer mount only PCB.

    My KMAC has Cherry PCB stabilizers on a plate.

    Thank you.  So does Coster do pcb mounted stabs or are they all plate mounted?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:22:16
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:16:37
    Does Coster do pcb mounted stabs or are they all plate mounted?

    Costar stabilizers are only Plate Mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:30:47
    While you are at it Captain can you tell what is the switch tool and any reviews on it and how it works?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:37:10
    Quote from: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:30:47
    Can you tell what is the switch tool and any reviews on it and how it works?

    The_Beast (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46160.0) designed MX switch opening tools.

    How it works:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.0#post_Guide
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.msg930193#msg930193

    Review:
    It works. You open switches with it. I like it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:42:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:37:10
    Quote from: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:30:47
    Can you tell what is the switch tool and any reviews on it and how it works?

    The_Beast (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46160.0) designed MX switch opening tools.

    How it works:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.0#post_Guide
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.msg930193#msg930193

    Review:
    It works. You open switches with it. I like it.
    Thanks!
     Any idea where to buy it, can't see any group buy or sale tt
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:42:42
    Quote from: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:42:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:37:10
    Quote from: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:30:47
    Can you tell what is the switch tool and any reviews on it and how it works?

    The_Beast (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46160.0) designed MX switch opening tools.

    How it works:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.0#post_Guide
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.msg930193#msg930193

    Review:
    It works. You open switches with it. I like it.
    Any idea where to buy it, can't see any group buy or sale tt

    Classifieds. There's no GB right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 18 December 2013, 20:00:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:42:42
    Quote from: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:42:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:37:10
    Quote from: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:30:47
    Can you tell what is the switch tool and any reviews on it and how it works?

    The_Beast (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46160.0) designed MX switch opening tools.

    How it works:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.0#post_Guide
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.msg930193#msg930193

    Review:
    It works. You open switches with it. I like it.
    Any idea where to buy it, can't see any group buy or sale tt

    Classifieds. There's no GB right now.

    +1 Classifieds. Be fast tho, its really popular.

    But the binder clip mod is just as good. Kinda hard to make at first, but once you finish it is really good
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 20:13:40
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 18 December 2013, 20:00:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:42:42
    Quote from: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:42:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:37:10
    Quote from: Candyflip on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:30:47
    Can you tell what is the switch tool and any reviews on it and how it works?

    The_Beast (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46160.0) designed MX switch opening tools.

    How it works:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.0#post_Guide
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.msg930193#msg930193

    Review:
    It works. You open switches with it. I like it.
    Any idea where to buy it, can't see any group buy or sale tt

    Classifieds. There's no GB right now.

    +1 Classifieds. Be fast tho, its really popular.

    But the binder clip mod is just as good. Kinda hard to make at first, but once you finish it is really good

    Still looking for one as well.  Pacifist, you beat me by like 2 mins on the last one that went up.  :)  Not sure that the binder clip is 'just as good' because you can mangle a switch pretty good with one of those things.  But...  They do work...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 December 2013, 20:18:22
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 18 December 2013, 20:13:40
    Still looking for one as well.  Pacifist, you beat me by like 2 mins on the last one that went up.  :)  Not sure that the binder clip is 'just as good' because you can mangle a switch pretty good with one of those things.  But...  They do work...

    You can mangle a switch with a bad Beast switch tool too. If made and used properly, either will work great and won't mess up the tops.  I've never had a problem with my binder switch tool.  The only problematic switch tops are the replacement tops and Beast's tool has a hard time with those too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: adhoc on Thu, 19 December 2013, 05:35:22
    I've ordered a kb from EK via USPS and I have a question. Tracking says it's been cleared on our customs here, so it should arrive fairly shortly. I'm not home a lot, however, so I'm wondering how will they deliver the keyboard to me? Do they just send it back to USA if I'm not at home or leave it at local post office or what do they do with the package in such a case?

    I'm from Slovenia and we obviously have no USPS offices here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 19 December 2013, 05:42:39
    Quote from: adhoc on Thu, 19 December 2013, 05:35:22
    I've ordered a kb from EK via USPS and I have a question. Tracking says it's been cleared on our customs here, so it should arrive fairly shortly. I'm not home a lot, however, so I'm wondering how will they deliver the keyboard to me? Do they just send it back to USA if I'm not at home or leave it at local post office or what do they do with the package in such a case?

    I'm from Slovenia and we obviously have no USPS offices here.

    Some speculation:

    USPS won't be the ones ultimately delivering the keyboard to you; they're working with a local delivery service. In the event that you're not home, they might reattempt delivery or your keyboard will hang out at the offices of the local service for some set number of days before being transferred back into USPS's possession.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: adhoc on Thu, 19 December 2013, 05:45:06
    Yeah, I just googled that they work with our local post office and that I'll be able to pick the package up there in case I'm not home

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:05:05
    Does anyone have any tips for removing shift keys on a G80-3000 (clears)? I just got an RGBY set in the post and I just can't get my two shift keys off with my keypuller. It isn't one of the wire ones, its the standard two prong plastic one that comes with a QFR. I've never had trouble removing the shift keys from another board but I guess it doesn't help that they are clears..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:23:06
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:05:05
    Does anyone have any tips for removing shift keys on a G80-3000 (clears)? I just got an RGBY set in the post and I just can't get my two shift keys off with my keypuller. It isn't one of the wire ones, its the standard two prong plastic one that comes with a QFR. I've never had trouble removing the shift keys from another board but I guess it doesn't help that they are clears..

    clears can be tricky they seem to not want to let go.....and your also dealing with a PCB Mount board so if you pull too hard you might just pull the switch apart.

    my suggestion is to get a wire puller but tread lightly
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:28:18
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:05:05
    Does anyone have any tips for removing shift keys on a G80-3000 (clears)? I just got an RGBY set in the post and I just can't get my two shift keys off with my keypuller. It isn't one of the wire ones, its the standard two prong plastic one that comes with a QFR. I've never had trouble removing the shift keys from another board but I guess it doesn't help that they are clears..

    Eh plastic keypullers... Try pushing down carefully the stabilizers with a screwdriver or something similar, they like to break when you are pulling to hard on them. Pull on the end on which you are pushing down the stabilizer and if you could get it to move a bit on one side, do the same on the other side. Rinse and repeat.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:32:58
    I know this is not a 'simple question' but I don't want to start a new topic for a question that will probably have like two answers.

    Which internal components will get the hottest on a keyboard?  I touched the chip on a usb hub once while it was plugged in and almost burnt my finger.  It was much hotter than I was expecting (obviously, or I wouldn't have touched it.  haha).  Will the controller be the hottest element or will the resistors get hotter?  What would be the top 3 hottest elements on the board and what temperatures do you think they could get to?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 21 December 2013, 00:20:43
    how upload file.dwg in GH? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sat, 21 December 2013, 06:30:43
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 21 December 2013, 00:20:43
    how upload file.dwg in GH? :)

    In the editor, click "Attachments and other options" (highlighted in red below):
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6070/dmo5.jpg)

    You should then see the menu for the attachments and other options (highlighted in red below):
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img850/8445/lz8d.jpg)

    Hope this helps. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 21 December 2013, 06:52:53
    Quote from: infiniti on Sat, 21 December 2013, 06:30:43
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 21 December 2013, 00:20:43
    how upload file.dwg in GH? :)

    Quote
    In the editor, click "Attachments and other options" (highlighted in red below):
    Show Image
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6070/dmo5.jpg)

    You should then see the menu for the attachments and other options (highlighted in red below):
    Show Image
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img850/8445/lz8d.jpg)

    Hope this helps. ;)
    Thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sat, 21 December 2013, 06:57:34
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 21 December 2013, 06:52:53
    Quote from: infiniti on Sat, 21 December 2013, 06:30:43
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 21 December 2013, 00:20:43
    how upload file.dwg in GH? :)

    Quote
    In the editor, click "Attachments and other options" (highlighted in red below):
    Show Image
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6070/dmo5.jpg)

    You should then see the menu for the attachments and other options (highlighted in red below):
    Show Image
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img850/8445/lz8d.jpg)

    Hope this helps. ;)
    Thanks :)
    You're welcome! :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 21 December 2013, 09:53:32
    Does anyone know if Denture cleaning tablets will get the legends off of the Leopold F660C keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 21 December 2013, 11:49:53
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Sat, 21 December 2013, 09:53:32
    Does anyone know if Denture cleaning tablets will get the legends off of the Leopold F660C keycaps?

    Why risk it when you can just get a new set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 21 December 2013, 12:05:11
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Sat, 21 December 2013, 09:53:32
    Does anyone know if Denture cleaning tablets will get the legends off of the Leopold F660C keycaps?

    Denture cleaning tablets are generally used to remove the dirt off the keycaps. They shouldn't attack the legends, just don't leave them too long in there. Or do you want to get them off?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 21 December 2013, 12:06:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 21 December 2013, 12:05:11
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Sat, 21 December 2013, 09:53:32
    Does anyone know if Denture cleaning tablets will get the legends off of the Leopold F660C keycaps?

    Denture cleaning tablets are generally used to remove the dirt off the keycaps. They shouldn't attack the legends, just don't leave them too long in there. Or do you want to get them off?

    Just trying to get rid of the legends. After they start to wear it drives me nuts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 21 December 2013, 12:17:09
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Sat, 21 December 2013, 09:53:32
    Does anyone know if Denture cleaning tablets will get the legends off of the Leopold F660C keycaps?

    I've been using denture tabs to clean keycaps for ages. I haven't seen any of my legends fade or be attacked. If you're looking to remove legends, I don't think the denture tabs are the way to go.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Sat, 21 December 2013, 12:22:21
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:23:06
    clears can be tricky they seem to not want to let go.....and your also dealing with a PCB Mount board so if you pull too hard you might just pull the switch apart.

    my suggestion is to get a wire puller but tread lightly

    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:28:18
    Eh plastic keypullers... Try pushing down carefully the stabilizers with a screwdriver or something similar, they like to break when you are pulling to hard on them. Pull on the end on which you are pushing down the stabilizer and if you could get it to move a bit on one side, do the same on the other side. Rinse and repeat.

    Thanks guys, I tried what you said BlueBär but to no avail, it works on my blacks but not clears sadly :\ I think I'll just wait until I get a wire puller. The tops of the switches come off almost every time I take a cap off (without breaking it) and it's pretty easy to put back together, I don't think it would be worth breaking the stabs though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 21 December 2013, 14:03:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 21 December 2013, 12:17:09
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Sat, 21 December 2013, 09:53:32
    Does anyone know if Denture cleaning tablets will get the legends off of the Leopold F660C keycaps?

    I've been using denture tabs to clean keycaps for ages. I haven't seen any of my legends fade or be attacked. If you're looking to remove legends, I don't think the denture tabs are the way to go.

    Thanks, I'll try something else. I've got an extra set of Black Topre caps I can throw on there but that will only cover so many of them. Hate to have mismatched keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 15:40:38
    EDIT: Didn't read the FAQ sorry lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:07:10
    After some research I think I want to buy these, I want to know if anyone knows if there would be anything wrong with putting these on a poker.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-x-LED-3mm-UV-Purple-Ultra-Bright-Round-Top-LEDs-Light-Lamp-RC-Car-PC-T1-/151022044759?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23299d8657

    Specs are as follows:

    Size   3mm Round Top Clear
    Luminosity/Brightness   2,000-3,000 mcd
    Forward Voltage   3.0-3.4v
    Current   20mA
    Wavelength   395-405nm
    Viewing Angle   20-30 Degrees
    Mount Style   Through Hole (DIP)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:30:36
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:07:10
    After some research I think I want to buy these, I want to know if anyone knows if there would be anything wrong with putting these on a poker.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-x-LED-3mm-UV-Purple-Ultra-Bright-Round-Top-LEDs-Light-Lamp-RC-Car-PC-T1-/151022044759?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23299d8657

    Specs are as follows:

    Size   3mm Round Top Clear
    Luminosity/Brightness   2,000-3,000 mcd
    Forward Voltage   3.0-3.4v
    Current   20mA
    Wavelength   395-405nm
    Viewing Angle   20-30 Degrees
    Mount Style   Through Hole (DIP)

    I think you will have to file off the top of those because they are round.  Here is basically the same thing (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Pink-Water-Clear-LED-Lamp-With-12V-Free-Resistors-234P-cc-/331085659437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d163e3d2d&_uhb=1) but it is 2x3x4mm rectangular so you do not have to modify.  These are pink instead of purple though.  You can search on ebay for 2x3x4mm and you will get mainly these LEDs.  Check the forward voltage and resistance though as not all are the same...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 21 December 2013, 18:31:22
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:30:36
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:07:10
    After some research I think I want to buy these, I want to know if anyone knows if there would be anything wrong with putting these on a poker.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-x-LED-3mm-UV-Purple-Ultra-Bright-Round-Top-LEDs-Light-Lamp-RC-Car-PC-T1-/151022044759?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23299d8657

    Specs are as follows:

    Size   3mm Round Top Clear
    Luminosity/Brightness   2,000-3,000 mcd
    Forward Voltage   3.0-3.4v
    Current   20mA
    Wavelength   395-405nm
    Viewing Angle   20-30 Degrees
    Mount Style   Through Hole (DIP)

    I think you will have to file off the top of those because they are round.  Here is basically the same thing (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Pink-Water-Clear-LED-Lamp-With-12V-Free-Resistors-234P-cc-/331085659437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d163e3d2d&_uhb=1) but it is 2x3x4mm rectangular so you do not have to modify.  These are pink instead of purple though.  You can search on ebay for 2x3x4mm and you will get mainly these LEDs.  Check the forward voltage and resistance though as not all are the same...

    The stock LEDs on my keyboard are round. Is there a particular reason they can't be on a Poker?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 19:22:40
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:07:10
    After some research I think I want to buy these, I want to know if anyone knows if there would be anything wrong with putting these on a poker.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-x-LED-3mm-UV-Purple-Ultra-Bright-Round-Top-LEDs-Light-Lamp-RC-Car-PC-T1-/151022044759?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23299d8657

    Specs are as follows:

    Size   3mm Round Top Clear
    Luminosity/Brightness   2,000-3,000 mcd
    Forward Voltage   3.0-3.4v
    Current   20mA
    Wavelength   395-405nm
    Viewing Angle   20-30 Degrees
    Mount Style   Through Hole (DIP)
    Another thing to consider is possible eye damage from UV leds, most led equip t devices warn to avoid looking directly at the led light source. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 21 December 2013, 20:08:05
    Are the A87 pcb files open source? If so, where can they be found?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 21 December 2013, 20:28:51
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Sat, 21 December 2013, 18:31:22
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:30:36
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:07:10
    After some research I think I want to buy these, I want to know if anyone knows if there would be anything wrong with putting these on a poker.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-x-LED-3mm-UV-Purple-Ultra-Bright-Round-Top-LEDs-Light-Lamp-RC-Car-PC-T1-/151022044759?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23299d8657

    Specs are as follows:

    Size   3mm Round Top Clear
    Luminosity/Brightness   2,000-3,000 mcd
    Forward Voltage   3.0-3.4v
    Current   20mA
    Wavelength   395-405nm
    Viewing Angle   20-30 Degrees
    Mount Style   Through Hole (DIP)

    I think you will have to file off the top of those because they are round.  Here is basically the same thing (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Pink-Water-Clear-LED-Lamp-With-12V-Free-Resistors-234P-cc-/331085659437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d163e3d2d&_uhb=1) but it is 2x3x4mm rectangular so you do not have to modify.  These are pink instead of purple though.  You can search on ebay for 2x3x4mm and you will get mainly these LEDs.  Check the forward voltage and resistance though as not all are the same...

    The stock LEDs on my keyboard are round. Is there a particular reason they can't be on a Poker?

    Not really.  I hear you can run into problems with thicker keycaps because the bottom of the keycap apparently hits the top of the LED. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 21 December 2013, 20:36:53
    That's why the LEDs are ground down on an angle on my KMAC. Old school
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 21 December 2013, 22:44:10
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 21 December 2013, 20:08:05
    Are the A87 pcb files open source? If so, where can they be found?

    I don't think they are.

    Wasn't that why LZ had to make their own PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 22 December 2013, 05:08:43
    When was the last clack factory sale? I haven't received any of those notifications in a while.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 22 December 2013, 05:35:19
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 22 December 2013, 05:08:43
    When was the last clack factory sale? I haven't received any of those notifications in a while.

    elitekeyboards.com had one in the form of a contest not that long ago.
    you might signup for there newsletter and watch there site.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: adhoc on Sun, 22 December 2013, 05:56:09
    I know this isn't really keyboards related, but may I ask where do people get these pictures of keyboards for their forum signatures? I'd like that as well :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 22 December 2013, 06:10:02
    Quote from: adhoc on Sun, 22 December 2013, 05:56:09
    I know this isn't really keyboards related, but may I ask where do people get these pictures of keyboards for their forum signatures? I'd like that as well :D

    The keyboard pixel art things?  Over at http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.0
     :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: adhoc on Sun, 22 December 2013, 06:27:30
    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 22 December 2013, 06:32:18
    Quote from: adhoc on Sun, 22 December 2013, 06:27:30
    Thanks!

    You're welcome! :D

    And congrats on 100 posts!
    (http://imageshack.us/a/img36/7629/jgvx.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: adhoc on Sun, 22 December 2013, 06:34:53
    Hehe cheers :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 22 December 2013, 16:35:37
    Quote from: adhoc on Sun, 22 December 2013, 06:34:53
    Hehe cheers :)

    We have a thread for that too: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37647.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 22 December 2013, 17:11:26
    so does cherry not make cherry stabilizers??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fourzeropooh on Sun, 22 December 2013, 17:22:24
    Where is the actuation point on topre 45g and 55g switches? And is the leopold f660c 45g or 55g?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 22 December 2013, 17:27:04
    Quote from: fourzeropooh on Sun, 22 December 2013, 17:22:24
    Where is the actuation point on topre 45g and 55g switches? And is the leopold f660c 45g or 55g?

    Not sure about your first question, but the Leo is 45g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fourzeropooh on Sun, 22 December 2013, 18:29:58
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Sun, 22 December 2013, 17:27:04
    Quote from: fourzeropooh on Sun, 22 December 2013, 17:22:24
    Where is the actuation point on topre 45g and 55g switches? And is the leopold f660c 45g or 55g?

    Not sure about your first question, but the Leo is 45g.

    Thank you. That is the same with the HHKB right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 22 December 2013, 18:31:18
    Quote from: fourzeropooh on Sun, 22 December 2013, 18:29:58
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Sun, 22 December 2013, 17:27:04
    Quote from: fourzeropooh on Sun, 22 December 2013, 17:22:24
    Where is the actuation point on topre 45g and 55g switches? And is the leopold f660c 45g or 55g?

    Not sure about your first question, but the Leo is 45g.

    Thank you. That is the same with the HHKB right?

    Yes

    But some of us have modded them with 55g domes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 22 December 2013, 18:33:26
    Quote from: MJ45 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 19:22:40
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:07:10
    After some research I think I want to buy these, I want to know if anyone knows if there would be anything wrong with putting these on a poker.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-x-LED-3mm-UV-Purple-Ultra-Bright-Round-Top-LEDs-Light-Lamp-RC-Car-PC-T1-/151022044759?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23299d8657

    Specs are as follows:

    Size   3mm Round Top Clear
    Luminosity/Brightness   2,000-3,000 mcd
    Forward Voltage   3.0-3.4v
    Current   20mA
    Wavelength   395-405nm
    Viewing Angle   20-30 Degrees
    Mount Style   Through Hole (DIP)
    Another thing to consider is possible eye damage from UV leds, most led equip t devices warn to avoid looking directly at the led light source.
    That doesn't sound good.. Although I would probably only use the leds every now and then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 22 December 2013, 19:33:27
    I have searched Geekhack, but I am having some trouble finding a good Model M bolt mod thread with pictures and detailed instructions.  Could anybody point me towards a good bolt mod/rivet replacement thread?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yjfknt on Sun, 22 December 2013, 19:34:13
    Have anyone tried dental rubberband on MX switches? I want to go back to my old dentist for some if it works.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 22 December 2013, 19:39:01
    Quote from: yjfknt on Sun, 22 December 2013, 19:34:13
    Have anyone tried dental rubberband on MX switches? I want to go back to my old dentist for some if it works.

    Most people use orings or landing pads with MX.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fourzeropooh on Sun, 22 December 2013, 19:48:50
    Quote from: yjfknt on Sun, 22 December 2013, 19:34:13
    Have anyone tried dental rubberband on MX switches? I want to go back to my old dentist for some if it works.

    I have. They aren't as good because they are thinner, but they slightly work. I use 3/16 size ones
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jadow on Mon, 23 December 2013, 05:21:17
    has any1 tried opening a cmstorm pro ? there seems to be a hidden screw somewhere...

    EDIT: found why. there were tabs in the faceplate
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 23 December 2013, 16:07:55
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 11 December 2013, 09:22:23
    More
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:31:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:26:38
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Mon, 09 December 2013, 21:25:10
    Is there some place where I can buy small amounts (e.g. 0.5oz vs. 1lb) of Krytox GPL 103? Searches turn up a number of past group-buys.

    Is there a reason you're set on GPL103? You can use this lube kit (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/lube-kit) from Sheraton which will work fine for lubing your keyboard.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I'm already aware of those kits. I realize now that I should have asked a different question:

    I already have GPL 205 and I'm looking for an oil that can be mixed with it. I've heard that GPL 103 mixes well with it, but it's not readily available. Is there another oil that people would recommend mixing with GPL 205 that's more easily acquired?
    It turns out that Miller-Stephenson sells 1/2 oz. bottles of GPL 103, though ordering involves actually calling them and requires a company name because "they won't sell to individuals". I gave them the name of my employer and used my personal card. Total was $21 plus shipping.

    http://www.miller-stephenson.com/

    More of answering my own questions:

    Since I found GPL 103 through Miller-Stephenson, it's become available on eBay here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUPONT-KRYTOX-GPL-103-OIL-LUBRICANT-PFPE-Computer-PC-Keyboard-Key-Switch-Lube-1z-/251409524035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a892ce543) for a better price. The same seller has Krytox GPL 205 available, which means your own personal stash of godly switch lubricant is only about $50 away.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 December 2013, 00:26:08
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sun, 22 December 2013, 19:33:27
    I have searched Geekhack, but I am having some trouble finding a good Model M bolt mod thread with pictures and detailed instructions.  Could anybody point me towards a good bolt mod/rivet replacement thread?

    I like this bolt mod Wiki (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Modifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod).

    Harry talks about bolt modding an F here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37753.10).

    Ripster's bolt mod guide can be found here (http://imgur.com/a/QroSL).

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 22 December 2013, 17:11:26
    so does cherry not make cherry stabilizers??

    They do. I mean they're called out in the Cherry Datasheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm). They're called "leveling kits".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:07:43
    I just received 100 MX White switches. I know that the defect rate is high with these, so the first thing I did was separate them into properly-clicking and dampened-or-not-clicking piles. To my dismay, more than half don't click properly!

    Is this high of a defect rate usual for whites, or did I get particularly unlucky? Only 46 clicked consistently – much softer than blues, but a nice, distinct click. I was really hoping that 100 switches had plenty of wiggle room to outfit a 60% board, but this barely gives me the base set :mad:.

    Anyways, I'm hoping that scavenging the clickiest of the inconsistent ones and lubing all of them normalizes the click a bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fourzeropooh on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:12:04
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:07:43
    I just received 100 MX White switches. I know that the defect rate is high with these, so the first thing I did was separate them into properly-clicking and dampened-or-not-clicking piles. To my dismay, more than half don't click properly!

    Is this high of a defect rate usual for whites, or did I get particularly unlucky? Only 46 clicked consistently – much softer than blues, but a nice, distinct click. I was really hoping that 100 switches had plenty of wiggle room to outfit a 60% board, but this barely gives me the base set :mad:.

    Anyways, I'm hoping that scavenging the clickiest of the inconsistent ones and lubing all of them normalizes the click a bit.

    Why do whites have this high of a defect rate? What kind of design does it have?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:15:08
    Quote from: fourzeropooh on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:12:04
    More
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:07:43
    I just received 100 MX White switches. I know that the defect rate is high with these, so the first thing I did was separate them into properly-clicking and dampened-or-not-clicking piles. To my dismay, more than half don't click properly!

    Is this high of a defect rate usual for whites, or did I get particularly unlucky? Only 46 clicked consistently – much softer than blues, but a nice, distinct click. I was really hoping that 100 switches had plenty of wiggle room to outfit a 60% board, but this barely gives me the base set :mad:.

    Anyways, I'm hoping that scavenging the clickiest of the inconsistent ones and lubing all of them normalizes the click a bit.

    Why do whites have this high of a defect rate? What kind of design does it have?

    Whites have 2-part sliders like blues or greens, but I have no clue what the difference is between a clicking one and a defect. I took two apart to compare them but couldn't identify any noticeable difference in either the slider or the bottom housing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fourzeropooh on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:17:10
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:15:08
    Quote from: fourzeropooh on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:12:04
    More
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:07:43
    I just received 100 MX White switches. I know that the defect rate is high with these, so the first thing I did was separate them into properly-clicking and dampened-or-not-clicking piles. To my dismay, more than half don't click properly!

    Is this high of a defect rate usual for whites, or did I get particularly unlucky? Only 46 clicked consistently – much softer than blues, but a nice, distinct click. I was really hoping that 100 switches had plenty of wiggle room to outfit a 60% board, but this barely gives me the base set :mad:.

    Anyways, I'm hoping that scavenging the clickiest of the inconsistent ones and lubing all of them normalizes the click a bit.

    Why do whites have this high of a defect rate? What kind of design does it have?

    Whites have 2-part sliders like blues or greens, but I have no clue what the difference is between a clicking one and a defect. I took two apart to compare them but couldn't identify any noticeable difference in either the slider or the bottom housing.

    That doesn't make sense  :confused:
    If they are like blues they shouldn't be that broken  :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:19:26
    Whites are factory lubed. That seems to be the problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fourzeropooh on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:23:20
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:19:26
    Whites are factory lubed. That seems to be the problem.

    Why would they prelube them? Do they use kytox or some other formula?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:29:22
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:07:43
    I just received 100 MX White switches. I know that the defect rate is high with these, so the first thing I did was separate them into properly-clicking and dampened-or-not-clicking piles. To my dismay, more than half don't click properly!

    Whites are not supposed to click as much as greens/blues, their click gets called a soft click. So the ones that click are the "defect" ones. Also the ones that make no click at all.

    Quote from: fourzeropooh on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:23:20
    Why would they prelube them? Do they use kytox or some other formula?

    To dampen the click sound. They have the same spring as greens so the only difference to them is that the whites make a different sound.

    I don't think the lube they use is known. Captain even recently mentioned somewhere that he thinks that whites are actually not lubed and something else causes the difference in sound.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:32:34
    Sounds like you would have better results lubing greens blindfolded..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:56:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:29:22
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:07:43
    I just received 100 MX White switches. I know that the defect rate is high with these, so the first thing I did was separate them into properly-clicking and dampened-or-not-clicking piles. To my dismay, more than half don't click properly!

    Whites are not supposed to click as much as greens/blues, their click gets called a soft click. So the ones that click are the "defect" ones. Also the ones that make no click at all.

    Hmm… I didn't consider that. I was thinking that the ones with a distinctive click were still considerably softer than blues or greens, but I was making the big mistake of testing blues/greens with keycaps on and whites without. The keycaps make the clicks much louder, and when taking them off the clicky whites sound almost exactly the same as greens.

    Taking them apart, it doesn't appear that there's any lube in them, but I'm going to play around with krytox mixes and see if I can bring them all down to the level of the soft-clicking ones.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 24 December 2013, 20:00:58
    What grade aluminum is the KMAC 2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 24 December 2013, 22:01:34
    Is there a bro bots wiki? I couldnt find it in search. Would like to know all V1 colors and how many were made/sold (tech keys right) for each color.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zoolzoo on Wed, 25 December 2013, 06:34:13
    When mounting pcb cherry switches, how do you get them to all be perfectly centered? What Im saying is...a pcb mount switch can twist and wiggle little bit when inserted into the pcb even with the legs "secure" in the pcb holes. In contrast, plate mounted switches snap into the plate ensuring a uniform mounting.

    I tried to swap switches on a pcb mount numpad. When I was all done, there were tiny variances in how they were mounted...causing some keys to appear to be tilting (more like swiveling, actually) to the left or the right. I didnt even notice it until they were all soldered and the keycaps were on. But it looked very bad.

    Oh and merry christmas!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 26 December 2013, 07:02:44
    Quote from: zoolzoo on Wed, 25 December 2013, 06:34:13
    I tried to swap switches on a pcb mount numpad. When I was all done, there were tiny variances in how they were mounted...causing some keys to appear to be tilting (more like swiveling, actually) to the left or the right. I didnt even notice it until they were all soldered and the keycaps were on. But it looked very bad.

    I would suggest taking a ruler and some tape to get them all aligned and then solder them after they're all in the right position. You won't get them all perfectly aligned but you will probably get better results.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zoolzoo on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:00:48
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 26 December 2013, 07:02:44
    Quote from: zoolzoo on Wed, 25 December 2013, 06:34:13
    I tried to swap switches on a pcb mount numpad. When I was all done, there were tiny variances in how they were mounted...causing some keys to appear to be tilting (more like swiveling, actually) to the left or the right. I didnt even notice it until they were all soldered and the keycaps were on. But it looked very bad.

    I would suggest taking a ruler and some tape to get them all aligned and then solder them after they're all in the right position. You won't get them all perfectly aligned but you will probably get better results.

    I actually think it was the pcb I was using. I just mounted some onto a different pcb and I didnt run into this issue. weird.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:19:16
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 24 December 2013, 22:01:34
    Is there a bro bots wiki? I couldnt find it in search. Would like to know all V1 colors and how many were made/sold (tech keys right) for each color.

    Thanks!

    Not yet. Maybe you could team up with bro caps and make one!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 26 December 2013, 10:03:32
    Quote from: zoolzoo on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:00:48
    I actually think it was the pcb I was using. I just mounted some onto a different pcb and I didnt run into this issue. weird.

    Maybe the holes for the pins that PCB mounted switches have are slightly bigger?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 26 December 2013, 10:29:36
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:19:16
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 24 December 2013, 22:01:34
    Is there a bro bots wiki? I couldnt find it in search. Would like to know all V1 colors and how many were made/sold (tech keys right) for each color.

    Thanks!

    Not yet. Maybe you could team up with bro caps and make one!

    Thank You!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 26 December 2013, 12:05:09
    boilermaker might have that information in his records... brocaps and boilermaker would have to approve of this though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 December 2013, 20:07:38
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:56:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:29:22
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:07:43
    I just received 100 MX White switches. I know that the defect rate is high with these, so the first thing I did was separate them into properly-clicking and dampened-or-not-clicking piles. To my dismay, more than half don't click properly!

    Whites are not supposed to click as much as greens/blues, their click gets called a soft click. So the ones that click are the "defect" ones. Also the ones that make no click at all.

    Hmm… I didn't consider that. I was thinking that the ones with a distinctive click were still considerably softer than blues or greens, but I was making the big mistake of testing blues/greens with keycaps on and whites without. The keycaps make the clicks much louder, and when taking them off the clicky whites sound almost exactly the same as greens.

    Taking them apart, it doesn't appear that there's any lube in them, but I'm going to play around with krytox mixes and see if I can bring them all down to the level of the soft-clicking ones.

    Thanks!

    I agree with this. I didn't see any lube in the MX White switches I took apart. I no longer believe that the MX Whites have extra lube in them from the factory.

    Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 24 December 2013, 20:00:58
    What grade aluminum is the KMAC 2?

    6061 I believe.

    Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 26 December 2013, 10:29:36
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:19:16
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 24 December 2013, 22:01:34
    Is there a bro bots wiki? I couldnt find it in search. Would like to know all V1 colors and how many were made/sold (tech keys right) for each color.

    Thanks!

    Not yet. Maybe you could team up with bro caps and make one!

    Thank You!

    There isn't one at the moment. I created a V2 list but there isn't a V1 list yet. As domoaligato said, we'd have to check with Bro Caps to see what information he's willing to divulge if we were to make a list of how many caps were made per color.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 28 December 2013, 01:59:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 December 2013, 20:07:38
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:56:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:29:22
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 24 December 2013, 15:07:43
    I just received 100 MX White switches. I know that the defect rate is high with these, so the first thing I did was separate them into properly-clicking and dampened-or-not-clicking piles. To my dismay, more than half don't click properly!

    Whites are not supposed to click as much as greens/blues, their click gets called a soft click. So the ones that click are the "defect" ones. Also the ones that make no click at all.

    Hmm… I didn't consider that. I was thinking that the ones with a distinctive click were still considerably softer than blues or greens, but I was making the big mistake of testing blues/greens with keycaps on and whites without. The keycaps make the clicks much louder, and when taking them off the clicky whites sound almost exactly the same as greens.

    Taking them apart, it doesn't appear that there's any lube in them, but I'm going to play around with krytox mixes and see if I can bring them all down to the level of the soft-clicking ones.

    Thanks!

    I agree with this. I didn't see any lube in the MX White switches I took apart. I no longer believe that the MX Whites have extra lube in them from the factory.

    Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 24 December 2013, 20:00:58
    What grade aluminum is the KMAC 2?

    6061 I believe.

    Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 26 December 2013, 10:29:36
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:19:16
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 24 December 2013, 22:01:34
    Is there a bro bots wiki? I couldnt find it in search. Would like to know all V1 colors and how many were made/sold (tech keys right) for each color.

    Thanks!

    Not yet. Maybe you could team up with bro caps and make one!

    Thank You!

    There isn't one at the moment. I created a V2 list but there isn't a V1 list yet. As domoaligato said, we'd have to check with Bro Caps to see what information he's willing to divulge if we were to make a list of how many caps were made per color.

    Thatd be awesome! I have asked a couple times in threads but never a PM. I wonder if he will give us a list.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 28 December 2013, 18:52:20
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 17 December 2013, 16:15:22
    I don't know where to ask this question, so I will ask it here...  Please tell me to take it somewhere else if it is not a simple question.

    A friend of mine at the office has been using my QFR with blues.  Today he showed me that some of the key presses are not registering.  The ones that are really noticeable are: 5, t, b and left alt.  I noticed right away that 5, t, b are probably on the same matrix line.  Left alt is another story, but that key gets used a lot because he is using the keyboard on a mac (so its his command key).

    So to the question.  How do I troubleshoot the problem?  I am guessing there is a problem with a couple solder joints are something like that.  It works a lot of the time, but periodically it misses a key press.  Some of those keys are worse than others.  Should I unsolder those switches and then resolder them and see if that fixes the problem?  Anything I can test with a multimeter which would help diagnose where the problem stems from?

    Figured I would post back for other peoples benefit on this one...

    I checked and I was past my warranty by about 2 weeks, so I opened it up to see if I could fix it.  I have to say I was not impressed with what I saw.  I don't think I saw a single shiny solder joint, they were all a matte grey.  Before I opened up I checked and I had about a 10% hit rate on B and about an 80% hit rate on 4 other keys.  I solder pulled the 5 bad keys so I could flux and resolder them to see if that would fix the problem.  Of the 5 switches I unsoldered, 2 of them had pad issues.  One pad lifted and was broken, but I was able to gently put it back in place and with a crap ton of flux was able to get a nice solder joint on it.  The other was a different story altogether.  When I first looked at the joint I kinda scratched my head and thought 'that looks funny'.  It was like there was a small air hole on one side of the solder joint.  I thought, 'whatever, its a crap solder job, I will just resolder it'.  I solder pulled it and realized that not only was the pad broken, it was missing a piece.  That is why it looked like it had an air hole because there was no pad on the hole, so the solder did not spread to that side of the hole.  Obviously, with only half a pad, I really lifted that pad.  I was able to wrap the pad back around the switch leg and solder it back on, but it was ugly.  We will see how long it lasts...

    All to say, I am VERY disappointed with the quality of this QFR.  I have no idea how something like this gets through QC.  I have no idea how so many people have modded a QFR.  How many of you had to do some direct wiring after unsoldering it?

    Anyway, to make a long story short(er), resoldering the switches fixed the problems with all the switches, so it is back to good (for now).  I know I am going to have to resolder a bunch more switches after seeing that solder job, but I don't want to just do them all right now because of how bad the pads are.  This is probably going to be one of those boards I just fix slowly as it breaks.  :)

    Thanks for all the suggestions on this...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 28 December 2013, 19:03:47
    Thanks for the information, swill! FWIW, I've completely desoldered and replaced the switches on my QFR twice and haven't had any issues with pads lifting, etc. I don't plan to do any more work on it at this point, but I'll be more wary and careful with other QFR PCBs in the future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mysteric on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:17:43
    Is it possible to remap the right Menu context key on a Filco / other mech to act as a Function key? Basically I want to replicate the QFR multimedia keys on a Filco (Fn key and F5 (Play/Pause), F6 (Stop), F7 (Back), F8 (Forward) etc.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:20:58
    Quote from: Mackem on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:17:43
    Is it possible to remap the right Menu context key on a Filco / other mech to act as a Function key? Basically I want to replicate the QFR multimedia keys on a Filco (Fn key and F5 (Play/Pause), F6 (Stop), F7 (Back), F8 (Forward) etc.)

    That should be possible via AutoHotKey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:29:22
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:20:58
    Quote from: Mackem on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:17:43
    Is it possible to remap the right Menu context key on a Filco / other mech to act as a Function key? Basically I want to replicate the QFR multimedia keys on a Filco (Fn key and F5 (Play/Pause), F6 (Stop), F7 (Back), F8 (Forward) etc.)

    That should be possible via AutoHotKey.

    Or one of bpiphany's replacement controllers. Such as the Pegasus Hoof or HID Liberation Device, for Filco, for example.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mysteric on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:31:58
    I have no experience in using AutoHotKey. Is it easy enough to do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:42:31
    Quote from: Mackem on Sun, 29 December 2013, 13:31:58
    I have no experience in using AutoHotKey. Is it easy enough to do?

    There's a few tutorials, it should be fairly easy to do. Something like this should work:
    Code: [Select]
    AppsKey&F12::Media_Play_Pause
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:28:13
    Desko keyboard have abs keycaps or pbt keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:37:09
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:28:13
    Desko keyboard have abs keycaps or pbt keycaps?

    I think it depends on the models. Kind of like how Cherry keyboards are. I'm fairly sure they come in both ABS and PBT. I've seen Desko's at the airport that are ultra shiny so they *must* be ABS. And I think the white color Desko boards are PBT. I'm just taking an educated guess though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:53:49
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:28:13
    Desko keyboard have abs keycaps or pbt keycaps?

    I think CPT is right, both ABS and PBT, but that one famous set is PBT, with the sublegends and famous RGB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:45:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 December 2013, 20:07:38

    I agree with this. I didn't see any lube in the MX White switches I took apart. I no longer believe that the MX Whites have extra lube in them from the factory.

    So you are saying mx whites are not factory lubed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:46:53
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:45:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 December 2013, 20:07:38

    I agree with this. I didn't see any lube in the MX White switches I took apart. I no longer believe that the MX Whites have extra lube in them from the factory.

    So you are saying mx whites are not factory lubed?

    If they still do, then it must be incredibly hard to notice. He's saying he doesn't believe that they are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:44:25
    What screws/bolts are most common for holding PCBs to their cases?  Would a 4-40 be the most common?  If not, what should I be looking for?  In this case I am tapping my own holes, so I have some control over the size of my screws/bolts.

    I see on all of the PCB diagrams that there are dimensions for everything except the holes.  Without the dimensions of the holes it is really hard to know what size screws/bolts to use. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:45:47
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:44:25
    What screws/bolts are most common for holding PCBs to their cases?  Would a 4-40 be the most common?  If not, what should I be looking for?  In this case I am tapping my own holes, so I have some control over the size of my screws/bolts.

    I see on all of the PCB diagrams that there are dimensions for everything except the holes.  Without the dimensions of the holes it is really hard to know what size screws/bolts to use.

    Poker case and 60% case screws can be found here

    http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/3019/=q10hon

    #92000A011
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 30 December 2013, 00:00:10
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:45:47
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:44:25
    What screws/bolts are most common for holding PCBs to their cases?  Would a 4-40 be the most common?  If not, what should I be looking for?  In this case I am tapping my own holes, so I have some control over the size of my screws/bolts.

    I see on all of the PCB diagrams that there are dimensions for everything except the holes.  Without the dimensions of the holes it is really hard to know what size screws/bolts to use.

    Poker case and 60% case screws can be found here

    http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/3019/=q10hon

    #92000A011

    So in this case it is not a 4-40:
    "18-8 Stainless Steel Metric Pan Head Phillips Machine Screw, M2 Size, 4mm Length, .4mm Pitch"

    Hmmm, are most cases different then or is this a pretty common screw for most cases?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:01:12
    what difference Filco Majestouch 2 and ninja? just keycap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:01:54
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:01:12
    what difference Filco Majestouch 2 and ninja? just keycap?
    indeed just the keycaps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:29:11
    Quote from: Candyflip on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:01:54
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:01:12
    what difference Filco Majestouch 2 and ninja? just keycap?
    indeed just the keycaps
    I believe the case badge is blacked out on the ninja as well..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 30 December 2013, 13:21:10
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:29:11
    Quote from: Candyflip on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:01:54
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 30 December 2013, 12:01:12
    what difference Filco Majestouch 2 and ninja? just keycap?
    indeed just the keycaps
    I believe the case badge is blacked out on the ninja as well..
    ayup

    keycaps on the ninja are side-printed, and the badge on the case is mettalic black instead of silver.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 30 December 2013, 17:46:41
    Is it normal for cherry stabilizers to "leak" something? This is the first/only board I currently have with cherry stabs and they do this, I have wiped it a couple times before and it keeps coming back.

    (http://i.imgur.com/h1Jtly7h.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/MFfHonOh.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 30 December 2013, 18:18:14
    Probably stabilizer grease for the metal bar / moving parts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 30 December 2013, 18:42:18
    Does your hand sweat while you game/code/whatever?

    Could be that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 30 December 2013, 18:49:18
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 30 December 2013, 18:42:18
    Does your hand sweat while you game/code/whatever?

    Could be that.
    It doesn't drip if that is what you are asking lol  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sai on Tue, 31 December 2013, 02:25:26
    i see people use thorpe for topre. any explanation for it ?
    (dont mind my sig, i am still a topre noob) :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Tue, 31 December 2013, 02:31:47
    ^Add on to that question.
    How do you pronounce Topre? Tou-prey? Tou-per?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 31 December 2013, 04:35:33
    Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 31 December 2013, 02:31:47
    ^Add on to that question.
    How do you pronounce Topre? Tou-prey? Tou-per?

    It's short for Tokyo Press, so I believe it's pronounced Toe-Preh.

    Quote from: Sai on Tue, 31 December 2013, 02:25:26
    i see people use thorpe for topre. any explanation for it ?
    (dont mind my sig, i am still a topre noob) :D

    Someone misspelled it a while back and the name stuck.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 31 December 2013, 05:22:33
    Quote from: Sai on Tue, 31 December 2013, 02:25:26
    i see people use thorpe for topre. any explanation for it ?
    (dont mind my sig, i am still a topre noob) :D

    This thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48447.0) in particular.

    It kinda stuck after that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:17:55
    Is there any actual evidence that MX whites are infact factory lubed?  Or is this just a preconceived notion due to the usual behavior of using lube on clicky switches?  If they are in fact not factory lubed could the muffled click be due to a totally different material of the stem/slider to something more like UHMW or a nylon type that is considered self lubricating?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:27:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:17:55
    Is there any actual evidence that MX whites are infact factory lubed?  Or is this just a preconceived notion due to the usual behavior of using lube on clicky switches?  If they are in fact not factory lubed could the muffled click be due to a totally different material of the stem/slider to something more like UHMW or a nylon type that is considered self lubricating?

    captain has decided to say they are not factory lubed and I honestly do not know if we have anything other than anecdotal evidence to go either way.

    I am of the opinion they are lightly factory lubed and that the hit or miss click is due to issues with the lube, I also believe the slider is a different material.

    I just opened one that was in my desk and it definitely has lube on it.  ::)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:32:09
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:27:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:17:55
    Is there any actual evidence that MX whites are infact factory lubed?  Or is this just a preconceived notion due to the usual behavior of using lube on clicky switches?  If they are in fact not factory lubed could the muffled click be due to a totally different material of the stem/slider to something more like UHMW or a nylon type that is considered self lubricating?

    captain has decided to say they are not factory lubed and I honestly do not know if we have anything other than anecdotal evidence to go either way.

    I am of the opinion they are lightly factory lubed and that the hit or miss click is due to issues with the lube, I also believe the slider is a different material.

    I, on the other hand, believe it's magic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:33:30
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:32:09
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:27:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:17:55
    Is there any actual evidence that MX whites are infact factory lubed?  Or is this just a preconceived notion due to the usual behavior of using lube on clicky switches?  If they are in fact not factory lubed could the muffled click be due to a totally different material of the stem/slider to something more like UHMW or a nylon type that is considered self lubricating?

    captain has decided to say they are not factory lubed and I honestly do not know if we have anything other than anecdotal evidence to go either way.

    I am of the opinion they are lightly factory lubed and that the hit or miss click is due to issues with the lube, I also believe the slider is a different material.

    I, on the other hand, believe it's magic.

    ^^ I am changing my answer to this....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:24:37
    How hard would it be to solder back on a usb connector like this
    http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/ctjx3.3omzd/v/vspfiles/photos/CBL-117-2.jpg%3F1368732341

    Do you have to individually solder each of the little pin like things to its respective place on the controller or just solder all of them to the controller.

    Could you do this with a weller WLC100
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:36:45
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 10:24:37
    Do you have to individually solder each of the little pin like things to its respective place on the controller or just solder all of them to the controller.

    Could you do this with a weller WLC100

    Please post a picture of the damage. You have to solder each pin to the correct solder pad. That iron will work well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 14:57:39
    The connector fell off, that's why i was asking because i would have to solder on the base and the 4 little connector things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 16:41:22
    Like how would you do this
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 31 December 2013, 16:55:04
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 16:41:22
    Like how would you do this

    You broke the pads off the board, so you are going to have to carefully figure out where each pad goes and then direct wire those connections.

    Try to write down what you see of the piece that is connected to the USB port still because you are are going to have to remove that, so try to understand where everything goes as you remove that...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 17:04:08
    Do I put the connector on and then solder or solder and try to stick it on
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 31 December 2013, 18:15:54
    Looks like you need to figure out which traces it was soldered to that broke.  Then re-create those traces with thin copper wires.  I'm not a USB connector specialist--hopefully someone who makes cables routinely can weigh in (or someone who knows about USB traces).

    As to how to "stick" your connector back onto the PCB, you could probably glue it on with some epoxy glue under it. You can try this thread too:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.1590

    And some high resolution photos of the connector and the PCB would be great to include as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 31 December 2013, 18:22:01
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 16:41:22
    Like how would you do this

    If I'm being honest, you're screwed. For an amateur to repair this is near impossible. You might as well buy a new one. Working on it will likely only leave you frustrated. The traces are so small, and the damage so severe, that I personally wouldn't even attempt a repair.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 31 December 2013, 18:33:42
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 16:41:22
    Like how would you do this

    Looking at this again, you may not actually as bad off as I originally thought.  If I remember correctly, all  of the connections for that usb port is on the end.  Those pads seem to be in good shape.  If that is the case, then I would not recommend removing the part of the pcb that is attached to the usb, and instead use that to glue it back on. 

    If someone else can confirm that the 4 solder joints at the 4 corners of the usb is only for mounting to the board and the actual connections are the ones at the end, I think you may have a shot at fixing this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 18:42:14
    Brian at EK said he was willing to fix it under the warranty. Should I just not do anything to avoid further damage?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 31 December 2013, 18:49:54
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Tue, 31 December 2013, 18:42:14
    Brian at EK said he was willing to fix it under the warranty. Should I just not do anything to avoid further damage?

    Yes, do that...  By far the best option...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 31 December 2013, 20:16:08
    Ok, nevermind, I think I know what happened!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:54:03
    Where does the olivetti set come from, and where can I buy one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:56:34
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:54:03
    Where does the olivetti set come from, and where can I buy one?

    You can buy a set from Originative:
    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/classic-beige-with-blue-legends
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:57:33
    Quote from: infiniti on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:56:34
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:54:03
    Where does the olivetti set come from, and where can I buy one?

    You can buy a set from Originative:
    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/classic-beige-with-blue-legends

    I've got that already, it's on my MJ2 with reds. That's why I daily drive it now lol.

    I want an original one now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:03:17
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:57:33
    Quote from: infiniti on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:56:34
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:54:03
    Where does the olivetti set come from, and where can I buy one?

    You can buy a set from Originative:
    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/classic-beige-with-blue-legends

    I've got that already, it's on my MJ2 with reds. That's why I daily drive it now lol.

    I want an original one now.

    I see.  Let's wait for someone else to chime in with an answer for you. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:37:25
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:57:33
    Quote from: infiniti on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:56:34
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:54:03
    Where does the olivetti set come from, and where can I buy one?

    You can buy a set from Originative:
    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/classic-beige-with-blue-legends

    I've got that already, it's on my MJ2 with reds. That's why I daily drive it now lol.

    I want an original one now.

    Be patient and willing to spend $400+ for it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:49:38
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:46:53
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 December 2013, 22:45:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 December 2013, 20:07:38

    I agree with this. I didn't see any lube in the MX White switches I took apart. I no longer believe that the MX Whites have extra lube in them from the factory.

    So you are saying mx whites are not factory lubed?

    If they still do, then it must be incredibly hard to notice. He's saying he doesn't believe that they are.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:27:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 31 December 2013, 08:17:55
    Is there any actual evidence that MX whites are infact factory lubed?  Or is this just a preconceived notion due to the usual behavior of using lube on clicky switches?  If they are in fact not factory lubed could the muffled click be due to a totally different material of the stem/slider to something more like UHMW or a nylon type that is considered self lubricating?

    captain has decided to say they are not factory lubed and I honestly do not know if we have anything other than anecdotal evidence to go either way.

    I am of the opinion they are lightly factory lubed and that the hit or miss click is due to issues with the lube, I also believe the slider is a different material.

    I just opened one that was in my desk and it definitely has lube on it.  ::)

    The new one that I opened didn't have any extra lube on it. I've come across some of Lysol's old posts saying that all the MX switches come lubed from the factory so I'm not sure if the Whites have this typical lubing PLUS the supposed lube that an MX White supposedly has. If I were at home, I'd open more Whites up to see if they have lube on them.

    But for now, I'm going to say I don't believe that MX Whites have extra lubing. Nor does it say that there is lubing in the DT wiki entry (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_White). And I don't see any lube in the DT Wiki picture (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Cherry_MX_--_click_sliders.jpg).

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:57:33
    Quote from: infiniti on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:56:34
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:54:03
    Where does the olivetti set come from, and where can I buy one?

    You can buy a set from Originative:
    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/classic-beige-with-blue-legends

    I've got that already, it's on my MJ2 with reds. That's why I daily drive it now lol.

    I want an original one now.

    Olivetti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivetti) is a manufacturer of telecommunication devices like phones and tablets as well as computers. They've made typewriters and keyboards in the past. I'm not sure if they still make keyboards.

    Olivetti asked Cherry to make a custom line of G80-3000s for them. The subline was called a G80-3011. It has the Olivetti keycap color scheme (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-3011). I believe this is what inspired the set from Originativco.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:52:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:49:38
    The new one that I opened didn't have any extra lube on it. I've come across some of Lysol's old posts saying that all the MX switches come lubed from the factory so I'm not sure if the Whites have this typical lubing PLUS the supposed lube that an MX White supposedly has. If I were at home, I'd open more Whites up to see if they have lube on them.

    I recently opened about a hundred (new) whites and they were all lube-less. It seems safe to say that they're no longer pre-lubed, even if they once were.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 02 January 2014, 00:25:57
    Led on esc dead,because bad desoldering :confused:
    [attach=1]
    how to repair? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 January 2014, 02:06:52
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:52:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:49:38
    The new one that I opened didn't have any extra lube on it. I've come across some of Lysol's old posts saying that all the MX switches come lubed from the factory so I'm not sure if the Whites have this typical lubing PLUS the supposed lube that an MX White supposedly has. If I were at home, I'd open more Whites up to see if they have lube on them.

    I recently opened about a hundred (new) whites and they were all lube-less. It seems safe to say that they're no longer pre-lubed, even if they once were.

    So what was the difference in the ones that had varying clicks?

    If I remember correctly you posted that about half of yours had a different click sound.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 02 January 2014, 08:32:50
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 January 2014, 02:06:52
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:52:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:49:38
    The new one that I opened didn't have any extra lube on it. I've come across some of Lysol's old posts saying that all the MX switches come lubed from the factory so I'm not sure if the Whites have this typical lubing PLUS the supposed lube that an MX White supposedly has. If I were at home, I'd open more Whites up to see if they have lube on them.

    I recently opened about a hundred (new) whites and they were all lube-less. It seems safe to say that they're no longer pre-lubed, even if they once were.

    So what was the difference in the ones that had varying clicks?

    If I remember correctly you posted that about half of yours had a different click sound.

    Yep, about 45 with a hard, mx green-like click, 45 with the correct soft click, and 10 with no click at all. I spent some time comparing all three and found no noticeable difference between the three. (I don't have any tools for precise measurement, though.) Thechemist also believes that the bottom housing has something to do with it, and that replacing it can sometimes change the click; I was able to confirm this to a small degree, but nothing dramatic changed using 5 spare bottom housings on a clicking, soft-clicking, and non-clicking white stem/spring.

    That's why my current theory is that it's black magic. (Clack magic?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 02 January 2014, 08:34:03
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 02 January 2014, 00:25:57
    Led on esc dead,because bad desoldering :confused:
    (Attachment Link)
    how to repair? :)
    Follow the broken trace to where it leads next, then bypass with some wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 02 January 2014, 19:57:09
    Anyone know where these blue topre caps are from?
    (http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/johnjohns0n/temporary_zps886f2b24.jpg)

    They look similar to the ones on Elitekeyboards but they say "These keycaps fit Topre Realforce keyboards only!"

    Hmm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:01:05
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 02 January 2014, 19:57:09
    Anyone know where these blue topre caps are from?
    Show Image
    (http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/johnjohns0n/temporary_zps886f2b24.jpg)


    They look similar to the ones on Elitekeyboards but they say "These keycaps fit Topre Realforce keyboards only!"

    I think just some of the set is incompatible with the HHKB (i.e. right shift) but the Alphas and Spacebar fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:05:55
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Thu, 02 January 2014, 08:32:50
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 January 2014, 02:06:52
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:52:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:49:38
    The new one that I opened didn't have any extra lube on it. I've come across some of Lysol's old posts saying that all the MX switches come lubed from the factory so I'm not sure if the Whites have this typical lubing PLUS the supposed lube that an MX White supposedly has. If I were at home, I'd open more Whites up to see if they have lube on them.

    I recently opened about a hundred (new) whites and they were all lube-less. It seems safe to say that they're no longer pre-lubed, even if they once were.

    So what was the difference in the ones that had varying clicks?

    If I remember correctly you posted that about half of yours had a different click sound.

    Yep, about 45 with a hard, mx green-like click, 45 with the correct soft click, and 10 with no click at all. I spent some time comparing all three and found no noticeable difference between the three. (I don't have any tools for precise measurement, though.) Thechemist also believes that the bottom housing has something to do with it, and that replacing it can sometimes change the click; I was able to confirm this to a small degree, but nothing dramatic changed using 5 spare bottom housings on a clicking, soft-clicking, and non-clicking white stem/spring.

    That's why my current theory is that it's black magic. (Clack magic?)

    I still think they are lubed, that also makes sense as to why some click differently or not at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:16:13
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:01:05
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 02 January 2014, 19:57:09
    Anyone know where these blue topre caps are from?
    Show Image
    (http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee451/johnjohns0n/temporary_zps886f2b24.jpg)


    They look similar to the ones on Elitekeyboards but they say "These keycaps fit Topre Realforce keyboards only!"

    I think just some of the set is incompatible with the HHKB (i.e. right shift) but the Alphas and Spacebar fit.

    Yeah, I thought that too. I guess they are from this set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:35:18
    what leopold release yellow version? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:47:27
    Ducky has the yellow keyboard, not Leopold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:50:26
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:47:27
    Ducky has the yellow keyboard, not Leopold.
    I thik leopold fc700R release yellow version,soon :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 03 January 2014, 18:17:24
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:50:26
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:47:27
    Ducky has the yellow keyboard, not Leopold.
    I thik leopold fc700R release yellow version,soon :))

    Link?

    A yellow FC660[C|M] would be nice :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 03 January 2014, 19:13:49
    Can you remove cherry plate mounted stabilizers without taking all the switches off the board? Do you just have to desolder the spacebar switch or would the whole board need taken apart?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 03 January 2014, 20:58:35
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 03 January 2014, 18:17:24
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:50:26
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:47:27
    Ducky has the yellow keyboard, not Leopold.
    I thik leopold fc700R release yellow version,soon :))

    Link?

    A yellow FC660[C|M] would be nice :)
    I know from distributor in my country FC700R Yellow :)
    even i not found link on goggle/leopold.kr.etc :confused:
    my friend in GH he will post soon,when the goods have arrived :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 03 January 2014, 20:59:15
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 03 January 2014, 19:13:49
    Can you remove cherry plate mounted stabilizers without taking all the switches off the board? Do you just have to desolder the spacebar switch or would the whole board need taken apart?
    You would need to desolder the spacebar switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 03 January 2014, 21:01:52
    Does anyone know anybody out there that could reball a graphics card in a monitor?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 04 January 2014, 07:50:29
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Fri, 03 January 2014, 21:01:52
    Does anyone know anybody out there that could reball a graphics card in a monitor?

    i don't, but you may be able to fix it yourself by reflowing in an oven. IS this an all-in-one PC? most monitors don't have the same sort of GPU in them as a PC would.

    For what it's worth, I was able to fix the logic board of my sony FW900 this way, but then thy flyback died and I threw it out anyway after salvageaing it for parts.
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 02 January 2014, 00:25:57
    Led on esc dead,because bad desoldering :confused:
    (Attachment Link)
    how to repair? :)
    gonna be hard. You can solder to the resistor and power lead on the USB, but then it's on all the time.
    There are other possible fixes too, like heating up the lead itself a lot and flowing a ton of solder down there, you can sometimes get it to bond to the pad on the other side of the pcb.

    Best of luck.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rea on Sat, 04 January 2014, 13:21:13
    I just wanted to ask if the Logo (between arrow and function keys) on the HPE 87 is removable or if there is kind of a hole?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 04 January 2014, 13:29:58
    @dorkvader - I'm going to try the baking process but from what I've been told that is a temp fix.

    I would like to get the logic board reballed eventually though.

    Thanks for the advise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 04 January 2014, 17:22:17
    Do you guys know where 122 cherry mx brown switches can be ordered?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dragonxx21 on Sat, 04 January 2014, 17:56:16
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 04 January 2014, 17:22:17
    Do you guys know where 122 cherry mx brown switches can be ordered?
    http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1920.html for exactly 122 browns
    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/cherry-mx-switch carries them in packs of 110
    classifieds is always an option as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: n7 on Sun, 05 January 2014, 01:28:38
    I was under the impression that only 6KRO is achievable over USB, but I've seen a few boards that seem to achieve higher rollover with only a single USB plug. I am using a Leopold FC200RT/KB and am able to light up as many as 16 keys (not including modifier keys, which I understand are registered differently) using http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/KeyboardGhostingDemo.aspx

    Does this mean my keyboard actually has 16KRO over USB, or is there something to this concept I am missing? The board was purchase from elitekeyboards, which even stated on the product page that it only supported 6KRO over USB. I'm a little surprised (not complaining, mind you :))) to see it capable of much more than that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 05 January 2014, 03:03:24
    Quote from: n7 on Sun, 05 January 2014, 01:28:38
    I was under the impression that only 6KRO is achievable over USB, but I've seen a few boards that seem to achieve higher rollover with only a single USB plug. I am using a Leopold FC200RT/KB and am able to light up as many as 16 keys (not including modifier keys, which I understand are registered differently) using http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/KeyboardGhostingDemo.aspx

    Does this mean my keyboard actually has 16KRO over USB, or is there something to this concept I am missing? The board was purchase from elitekeyboards, which even stated on the product page that it only supported 6KRO over USB. I'm a little surprised (not complaining, mind you :))) to see it capable of much more than that.

    kro is minum keys you can press at a time
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 05 January 2014, 10:52:00
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 05 January 2014, 03:03:24
    Quote from: n7 on Sun, 05 January 2014, 01:28:38
    I was under the impression that only 6KRO is achievable over USB, but I've seen a few boards that seem to achieve higher rollover with only a single USB plug. I am using a Leopold FC200RT/KB and am able to light up as many as 16 keys (not including modifier keys, which I understand are registered differently) using http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/KeyboardGhostingDemo.aspx

    Does this mean my keyboard actually has 16KRO over USB, or is there something to this concept I am missing? The board was purchase from elitekeyboards, which even stated on the product page that it only supported 6KRO over USB. I'm a little surprised (not complaining, mind you :))) to see it capable of much more than that.

    kro is minum keys you can press at a time

    No way!

    Also, please don't answer a question when you have zero clue of the answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rea on Sun, 05 January 2014, 11:45:03
    Actually he is right...
    6KRO describes only that your computer registers 6 Keys no matter which 6 keys you press. Most keyboards with 2KRO can register 6 or even more keys when they are in different parts.
    In addition to that you can have NKRO over USB with some Keyboards even without special drivers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:03:32
    He's right, yeah, but he could have explained it like you did, and not in a vague way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:37:31
    Do Cherry relegendable caps come in different profiles or are they all E profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:48:36
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:37:31
    Do Cherry relegendable caps come in different profiles or are they all E profile?

    I've seen them for the QWER row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:52:18
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:37:31
    Do Cherry relegendable caps come in different profiles or are they all E profile?
    Going by the info here (http://www.gmk-electronic-design.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Produktblaetter/PerformanceSheet_keycaps.pdf) they are E only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 05 January 2014, 13:02:06
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:52:18
    Going by the info here (http://www.gmk-electronic-design.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Produktblaetter/PerformanceSheet_keycaps.pdf) they are E only.

    E only would make sense. Looking at the data sheet E appears to have a horizontal surface and they are used in various POS matrix keyboards which would need a horizontal surface. Thanks for the help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: moogle on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:27:22
    what does clipped stabs mean?
    how does it differ from regular unmodified stabilizers?
    an image would be nice as well ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:28:44
    Quote from: moogle on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:27:22
    what does clipped stabs mean?
    how does it differ from regular unmodified stabilizers?
    an image would be nice as well ;D

    bottom of the slider

    clip off excess plastic

    it makes it feel better

    more bottom out space

    there is a thread search sucks so i don't want to go find it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:31:12
    Quote from: moogle on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:27:22
    what does clipped stabs mean?
    how does it differ from regular unmodified stabilizers?
    an image would be nice as well ;D

    Check the link in my signature.

    Also Pacifist, can you please start using punctuation and your shift keys? It makes your posts quite unreadable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:32:41
    Quote from: moogle on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:27:22
    what does clipped stabs mean?
    how does it differ from regular unmodified stabilizers?
    an image would be nice as well ;D

    Check this video out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34759.0) and the pictures in this thread (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/cherry-corp-stabilizers-gimme-back-my-clack-ok-whaaat-t2780.html). Also the link in BlueBar's signature will be helpful.

    Clipped stabilizers are Cherry PCB stabilizers that have been clipped so that they feel different. To me the standard Cherry PCB stabilizers feel mushy and not crisp like Costar. Clipping the Cherry stabilizers allows the feeling to be there while retaining the ease of Cherry stabilizers (swapping caps is easier with Cherry stabs).

    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:28:44
    Quote from: moogle on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:27:22
    what does clipped stabs mean?
    how does it differ from regular unmodified stabilizers?
    an image would be nice as well ;D

    bottom of the slider

    clip off excess plastic

    it makes it feel better

    more bottom out space

    there is a thread search sucks so i don't want to go find it

    If you don't want to do the simple Google search to find the thread, then maybe you should at least put a little more detail into your response.

    It's posted in the OP, but if you want to easily search Geekhack:

    - Go to Google.com
    - In the search field type in "Site:geekhack.org <your search phrase here>"
    - So in this case, the search phrase would be "Clipped Cherry Stabilizers"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: moogle on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:35:50
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:31:12
    Quote from: moogle on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:27:22
    what does clipped stabs mean?
    how does it differ from regular unmodified stabilizers?
    an image would be nice as well ;D

    Check the link in my signature.

    thanks!
    there's a video too :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:37:37
    The two pieces of plastic that you remove act as dampeners, making the stabilisers feel all mushy.

    This mod can also be done on Cherry plate mount stabilisers. Some people have said it wouldn't work on plate mount stabilisers, but I have tried it myself and can confirm it makes them feel a hell of a lot better.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:39:25
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:37:37
    The two pieces of plastic that you remove act as dampeners, making the stabilisers feel all mushy.

    This mod can also be done on Cherry plate mount stabilisers. Some people have said it wouldn't work on plate mount stabilisers, but I have tried it myself and can confirm it makes them feel a hell of a lot better.

    Photekq, refresh my memory, I know we've talked about this before. Did you put tape/cardboard on the bottom of your plate mounted Cherry stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:40:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 January 2014, 14:39:25
    Photekq, refresh my memory, I know we've talked about this before. Did you put tape/cardboard on the bottom of your plate mounted Cherry stabs?
    I did not. The stems of plate mount stabilisers definitely come in contact with the PCB, just like PCB mount stabilisers. You don't need to put any tape/cardboard there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 05 January 2014, 15:03:11
    Is there a post your geek hack key caps thread? I saw the contest before but i think that was it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 January 2014, 15:06:48
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sun, 05 January 2014, 15:03:11
    Is there a post your geek hack key caps thread? I saw the contest before but i think that was it.

    Not that I know of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 05 January 2014, 15:16:47
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sun, 05 January 2014, 15:03:11
    Is there a post your geek hack key caps thread? I saw the contest before but i think that was it.

    I was thinking of making one

    But I only have 8 GH caps, not enough to justify making a thread imo
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 05 January 2014, 23:39:47
    in fact, what size of 1.75 keycap / caps lock needs to stab? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Sun, 05 January 2014, 23:45:45
    Does the shine 3 have the new cherry stabs that don't need to be clipped?  apparently they were first used on the zero shine series and people were happy not clipping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:06:21
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 05 January 2014, 23:39:47
    in fact, what size of 1.75 keycap / caps lock needs to stab? :)

    Don't think 1.75x caps need a stabilizer.

    Quote from: tbc on Sun, 05 January 2014, 23:45:45
    Does the shine 3 have the new cherry stabs that don't need to be clipped?  apparently they were first used on the zero shine series and people were happy not clipping.

    Supposedly some of the newer keyboards such as the Shine 3 come clipped or are molded differently. However I don't own a Shine 3 so I can't confirm this myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:12:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:06:21
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 05 January 2014, 23:39:47
    in fact, what size of 1.75 keycap / caps lock needs to stab? :)

    Don't think 1.75x caps need a stabilizer.

    Quote from: tbc on Sun, 05 January 2014, 23:45:45
    Does the shine 3 have the new cherry stabs that don't need to be clipped?  apparently they were first used on the zero shine series and people were happy not clipping.

    Supposedly some of the newer keyboards such as the Shine 3 come clipped or are molded differently. However I don't own a Shinie 3 so I can't confirm this myself.



    The clipped stabs were confirmed by someone very familiar with ducky boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:12:59
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:12:24
    The clipped stabs were confirmed by someone very familiar with ducky boards.

    Link?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:15:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:12:59
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:12:24
    The clipped stabs were confirmed by someone very familiar with ducky boards.

    Link?

    I posted it here once before I'm pretty sure, probably when you were MIA  ;D

    here ya  go

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1182389#msg1182389
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:16:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:15:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:12:59
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:12:24
    The clipped stabs were confirmed by someone very familiar with ducky boards.

    Link?

    I posted it here once before I'm pretty sure, probably when you were MIA  ;D

    Link?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:17:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:16:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:15:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:12:59
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:12:24
    The clipped stabs were confirmed by someone very familiar with ducky boards.

    Link?

    I posted it here once before I'm pretty sure, probably when you were MIA  ;D

    Link?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49458.msg1169437#msg1169437
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 08:21:36
    Quote from: Rea on Sat, 04 January 2014, 13:21:13
    I just wanted to ask if the Logo (between arrow and function keys) on the HPE 87 is removable or if there is kind of a hole?

    Maybe? It might be glued on so you can try sanding it off or popping it off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rea on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:51:05
    Actually I got an answer in another forum and yes it is only glued on but there is a hole under it >:(
    But thanks for answering
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:12:16
    Hey guy's, I have had a Das Keyboard Ultimate w/ Blues for about three years now. I'm now looking into another keyboard and was wondering what y'all thought. I am looking for a tenkeyless with brown's. So far the options I have considered are a Leopold FC200RT/AB or a CMStorm Quick Fire Rapid. Out of those two what is the best quality or do you have any other recommendations for ~100usd.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:16:26
    Quote from: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:12:16
    Hey guy's, I have had a Das Keyboard Ultimate w/ Blues for about two years now. I'm now looking into another keyboard and was wondering what y'all thought. I am looking for a tenkeyless with brown's. So far the options I have considered are a Leopold FC200RT/AB or a CMStorm Quick Fire Rapid. Out of those two what is the best quality or do you have any other recommendations for ~100usd.

    Under $100 I've been recommending the QFR. But if you're willing to bump your budget up $125, you can get a Leopold FC700R from Hendyzone (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47218.0) which is really nice. I have a review on the 700R here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41048.15).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:18:59
    What is the difference between the 700r and the FC200RT/AB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:22:50
    Quote from: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:18:59
    What is the difference between the 700r and the FC200RT/AB?

    As far as I know, there are different body shapes/styles, different color offerings on the case/caps, different spacing on the spacebar stems, and different keycap materials.

    I believe the 200RT caps are ABS vs the PBT on the 700R.

    Just an FYI, I don't own an 200RT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:30:00
    I might end up going with the FC200R because of it being cheaper than the 700r and I think the branding on the Quickfire Rapid would bother me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:35:14
    Quote from: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:30:00
    I might end up going with the FC200R because of it being cheaper than the 700r and I think the branding on the Quickfire Rapid would bother me.

    Ok. And if anyone's following this, I can't read. Hendyzone's price doesn't include shipping so that makes the 700R boards more expensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:35:21
    Quote from: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:30:00
    I might end up going with the FC200R because of it being cheaper than the 700r and I think the branding on the Quickfire Rapid would bother me.

    Just be sure any spacebars you plan to use in the future are of the 6-post universal variety. Since Leopold cares not for spacebar stabilizer standard spacing.

    I also recommend the QFR for the under $100 budget. The branding is now minimal, with just one logo on the back of the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:39:13
    Oh really they updated the QFR? Hmm, very compelling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: n7 on Mon, 06 January 2014, 14:00:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:22:50
    Quote from: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:18:59
    What is the difference between the 700r and the FC200RT/AB?

    As far as I know, there are different body shapes/styles, different color offerings on the case/caps, different spacing on the spacebar stems, and different keycap materials.

    I believe the 200RT caps are ABS vs the PBT on the 700R.

    Just an FYI, I don't own an 200RT.
    The FC200RT/AB does in fact have ABS caps (I am typing on one now). But is it just the 700R has different spacing on the spacebar? I was under the impression that all Leopolds had weird spacing on the spacebar, which meant it would be difficult to use caps designed for other brands. Here is what the spacing looks like on my board. How does it compare to the 700R?
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 06 January 2014, 14:05:35
    Quote from: n7 on Mon, 06 January 2014, 14:00:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:22:50
    Quote from: Trippy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:18:59
    What is the difference between the 700r and the FC200RT/AB?

    As far as I know, there are different body shapes/styles, different color offerings on the case/caps, different spacing on the spacebar stems, and different keycap materials.

    I believe the 200RT caps are ABS vs the PBT on the 700R.

    Just an FYI, I don't own an 200RT.
    The FC200RT/AB does in fact have ABS caps (I am typing on one now). But is it just the 700R has different spacing on the spacebar? I was under the impression that all Leopolds had weird spacing on the spacebar, which meant it would be difficult to use caps designed for other brands. Here is what the spacing looks like on my board. How does it compare to the 700R?
    (Attachment Link)


    All Leopolds have non-standard spacing on the spacebars, for some reason. But the spacing on the FC200R is fine for Signature Plastics' 6-stem "Universal" 6.25-unit spacebar. They made it compatible with that (and only that) specific model Leopold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:38:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 January 2014, 15:06:48
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sun, 05 January 2014, 15:03:11
    Is there a post your geek hack key caps thread? I saw the contest before but i think that was it.

    Not that I know of.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 05 January 2014, 15:16:47
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Sun, 05 January 2014, 15:03:11
    Is there a post your geek hack key caps thread? I saw the contest before but i think that was it.

    I was thinking of making one

    But I only have 8 GH caps, not enough to justify making a thread imo

    Yeah I only have 7.. Well someone should make one! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:40:04
    Looking for Halverson to get off his ass and post his complete collection.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:46:37
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:40:04
    Looking for Halverson to get off his ass and post his complete collection.

    hahha WHAT? I DONT EVEN HAVE ANY
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:46:49
    Actually I have a **** asss pic collection that  isnt full
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:47:10
    http://imgur.com/a/tXiWW#0


    ENJOY THE BAD PICS AND BAD SPAM
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:48:14
    ^ POST THE COMPLETE COLLECTION
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 06 January 2014, 18:09:05
    Quote from: Halverson on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:47:10
    http://imgur.com/a/tXiWW#0


    ENJOY THE BAD PICS AND BAD SPAM

    OMG LOVE IT! I want this one so bad !!
    (http://i.imgur.com/gQS12a4s.jpg)

    Hey I made a thread, you should go post those images in there!

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53117.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53117.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Mon, 06 January 2014, 19:46:36
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Mon, 06 January 2014, 18:09:05
    Quote from: Halverson on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:47:10
    http://imgur.com/a/tXiWW#0


    ENJOY THE BAD PICS AND BAD SPAM

    OMG LOVE IT! I want this one so bad !!
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/gQS12a4s.jpg)


    Hey I made a thread, you should go post those images in there!

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53117.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53117.0)

    that one is pad printed and rather ****ty
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 06 January 2014, 19:48:22
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:45:47
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 29 December 2013, 23:44:25
    What screws/bolts are most common for holding PCBs to their cases?  Would a 4-40 be the most common?  If not, what should I be looking for?  In this case I am tapping my own holes, so I have some control over the size of my screws/bolts.

    I see on all of the PCB diagrams that there are dimensions for everything except the holes.  Without the dimensions of the holes it is really hard to know what size screws/bolts to use.

    Poker case and 60% case screws can be found here

    http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/3019/=q10hon

    #92000A011

    Based on your screw size suggestion, I got a selection of inserts for prototyping my case design and DAMN these things are tiny.  I got 4 different flavours for tapping a couple different mediums.  I already have 1/4" plexiglass which I will be prototyping with as well as wood.  I will get to Aluminum and Steel later when I get some of the kinks worked out.

    Thanks for the details...

    [attach=1] [attach=2] [attach=3] [attach=4] [attach=5]

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:57:06
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 06 January 2014, 19:46:36
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Mon, 06 January 2014, 18:09:05
    Quote from: Halverson on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:47:10
    http://imgur.com/a/tXiWW#0


    ENJOY THE BAD PICS AND BAD SPAM

    OMG LOVE IT! I want this one so bad !!
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/gQS12a4s.jpg)


    Hey I made a thread, you should go post those images in there!

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53117.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53117.0)

    that one is pad printed and rather ****ty

    Oh lame.. I just like the font ;x
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 21:24:01
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:57:06
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 06 January 2014, 19:46:36
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Mon, 06 January 2014, 18:09:05
    Quote from: Halverson on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:47:10
    http://imgur.com/a/tXiWW#0


    ENJOY THE BAD PICS AND BAD SPAM

    OMG LOVE IT! I want this one so bad !!
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/gQS12a4s.jpg)


    Hey I made a thread, you should go post those images in there!

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53117.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53117.0)

    that one is pad printed and rather ****ty

    Oh lame.. I just like the font ;x

    just because its pad printed....its still a cool cap :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:33:33
    Quote from: Halverson on Mon, 06 January 2014, 17:47:10
    http://imgur.com/a/tXiWW#0


    ENJOY THE BAD PICS AND BAD SPAM

    :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:01:12
    I recently got a Focus FK2001 from an ebay seller. When I press numpad 0, it sends the code for numpad 0, but also for number row 4 and 6. Also, numpad 1 sends codes for numpad 1 and number row 8 and 9. Is this an issue with the controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:03:44
    How does one get their hands on a red GMK enter key? Is classifieds the only reasonable option?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:05:07
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:03:44
    How does one get their hands on a red GMK enter key? Is classifieds the only reasonable option?

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_red_enter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:10:43
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:05:07
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:03:44
    How does one get their hands on a red GMK enter key? Is classifieds the only reasonable option?

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_red_enter

    Oh. Well that was easy. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:17:39
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:10:43
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:05:07
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:03:44
    How does one get their hands on a red GMK enter key? Is classifieds the only reasonable option?

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_red_enter

    Oh. Well that was easy. Thanks!

    Welcome!!

    They have quite a few GMK accent keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:47:20
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:01:12
    I recently got a Focus FK2001 from an ebay seller. When I press numpad 0, it sends the code for numpad 0, but also for number row 4 and 6. Also, numpad 1 sends codes for numpad 1 and number row 8 and 9. Is this an issue with the controller?

    Just in case this got lost on the last page.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:06:31
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:47:20
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:01:12
    I recently got a Focus FK2001 from an ebay seller. When I press numpad 0, it sends the code for numpad 0, but also for number row 4 and 6. Also, numpad 1 sends codes for numpad 1 and number row 8 and 9. Is this an issue with the controller?

    Just in case this got lost on the last page.

    Did you check the soldering joints? Could be an issue with that too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:08:32
    A question for an issue I'm having. I have an MY1800 case that I'm trying to use as a case for a Leeku 1800 PCB.

    (http://i.imgur.com/al9wIb6.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/WQ6CWTz.jpg)

    There are those posts and they seem to be molded to the top and bottom of the case. Is the case really not able to be taken apart? Or am I missing something? Proper model number is G81-1800LUMUS-2/03.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:23:42
    Are there any custom PCBs that support zone backlighting?  this is NOT standard legend backlighting; I just want the underglow effect.

    if so, are there any that support RGB LEDs?   the controller does not need to support on-the-fly color changing; needing a reflash is okay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:23:54
    Well, a few of those look like it screws together, are there screws holding the case together? I dont have a KB to compare, but my G80-11900 is screwed together in a similar fashion. Same with my inet (dolch) kb.

    also watch out for tabs holding the case on.

    Glad you were able to get some POM.

    Quote from: tbc on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:23:42
    Are there any custom PCBs that support zone backlighting?  this is NOT standard legend backlighting; I just want the underglow effect.

    if so, are there any that support RGB LEDs?   the controller does not need to support on-the-fly color changing; needing a reflash is okay.
    None that I know of right now for RGB: look out for cherry RGB MX in 2014 though. For zone backlighting, you can use alps switches and a led under them (like the duck 60%) also I think there's a korean board that has led's next to the switches, but I forgot the name.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:31:20
    Quote from: tbc on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:23:42
    1) Are there any custom PCBs that support zone backlighting?  this is NOT standard legend backlighting; I just want the underglow effect.

    2) Are there any that support RGB LEDs?   the controller does not need to support on-the-fly color changing; needing a reflash is okay.

    1) I'm not understanding your question that well. What is "zone backlighting" versus "legend backlighting"? It's just backlighting with different keycaps. Some keycaps let the light pass through the legends. Others don't.

    2) RGB LEDs currently won't work (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39384.msg770318#msg770318). But there are going to be RGB LEDs in the new Corsair boards (http://www.corsair.com/mx-rgb).

    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:23:54
    Well, a few of those look like it screws together, are there screws holding the case together? I dont have a KB to compare, but my G80-11900 is screwed together in a similar fashion. Same with my inet (dolch) kb.

    also watch out for tabs holding the case on.

    Glad you were able to get some POM.

    Tabs I got apart. I don't see any screws on the back...And I don't have POM :(. Wait, this board had POM caps??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:41:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:31:20

    Tabs I got apart. I don't see any screws on the back...And I don't have POM :(. Wait, this board had POM caps??

    Most likely. Lasered black cherry kbs almost always sue POM.

    Man, I really should-a brought my DAS II keycaps for you to try.

    Those posts don't look like screw points, but I dont have the actual KB to compare. there's got to be some way to take it apart though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:42:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:31:20
    Quote from: tbc on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:23:42
    ...

    1) I'm not understanding your question that well. What is "zone backlighting" versus "legend backlighting"? It's just backlighting with different keycaps. Some keycaps let the light pass through the legends. Others don't



    legend backlighting has the LED inside the MX housing LED slot so that the LEDis directly underneath the legend.

    zone backlighting involves placing the LED away from the switch housing.  you do NOT get backlit legends; only the underglow effect

    i'm wondering about the zone backlighting because having LEDs and enjoying the option to pop the switch top off to change srprings/stems isn't compatible when you're using legend backlighting (without modding each switch top yourself).  zone backlighting is an option for me because I ONLY care about underglow lighting effect and do not need the legends to be visible in the dark.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 22:03:10
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:41:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:31:20
    Tabs I got apart. I don't see any screws on the back...And I don't have POM :(. Wait, this board had POM caps??

    Those posts don't look like screw points, but I dont have the actual KB to compare. there's got to be some way to take it apart though.

    Hm, on closer inspection there are tabs and some cutouts on the backside. I'll snap a picture tomorrow. They feel extremely unyielding through...

    Quote from: tbc on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:42:16
    legend backlighting has the LED inside the MX housing LED slot so that the LEDis directly underneath the legend.

    zone backlighting involves placing the LED away from the switch housing.  you do NOT get backlit legends; only the underglow effect

    i'm wondering about the zone backlighting because having LEDs and enjoying the option to pop the switch top off to change srprings/stems isn't compatible when you're using legend backlighting (without modding each switch top yourself).  zone backlighting is an option for me because I ONLY care about underglow lighting effect and do not need the legends to be visible in the dark.

    So I think you need a polycarb sandwich case or something acrylic more than you need a PCB. Can't you just put the LED on backwards and bend it into place? I know that Binge's 2TU and Sifo's GON (http://imgur.com/a/kHOZn) have that effect. But I feel like its more of a function of the case than the PCB. Seems like you just need to get a PCB that supports LEDs (KMAC, GON, 2TU, many other korean customs), don't populate the LEDs under the keycaps, put the LEDS on backwards, and bend them into place behind the PCB and case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 07 January 2014, 22:37:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 22:03:10
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:41:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:31:20
    Tabs I got apart. I don't see any screws on the back...And I don't have POM :(. Wait, this board had POM caps??

    Those posts don't look like screw points, but I dont have the actual KB to compare. there's got to be some way to take it apart though.

    Another option would be to us EL mat and just make a cutout in the mat for each switch.  This would give a very clean and even glow under the caps.  Just make sure you get the proper mat as I believe there are 2 different styles.  One allows holes to be cut in it and the other doesn't IIRC.  But it has been a while since I have looked at that stuff.  I do know there are some EL stuffs that will run on USB power as well.  If you need more than that most of the mats can be powered via 12 volts which the PSU will be able to push with no problems.
    Hm, on closer inspection there are tabs and some cutouts on the backside. I'll snap a picture tomorrow. They feel extremely unyielding through...

    Quote from: tbc on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:42:16
    legend backlighting has the LED inside the MX housing LED slot so that the LEDis directly underneath the legend.

    zone backlighting involves placing the LED away from the switch housing.  you do NOT get backlit legends; only the underglow effect

    i'm wondering about the zone backlighting because having LEDs and enjoying the option to pop the switch top off to change srprings/stems isn't compatible when you're using legend backlighting (without modding each switch top yourself).  zone backlighting is an option for me because I ONLY care about underglow lighting effect and do not need the legends to be visible in the dark.

    So I think you need a polycarb sandwich case or something acrylic more than you need a PCB. Can't you just put the LED on backwards and bend it into place? I know that Binge's 2TU and Sifo's GON (http://imgur.com/a/kHOZn) have that effect. But I feel like its more of a function of the case than the PCB. Seems like you just need to get a PCB that supports LEDs (KMAC, GON, 2TU, many other korean customs), don't populate the LEDs under the keycaps, put the LEDS on backwards, and bend them into place behind the PCB and case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 13:40:08
    Does anyone know how you can post an image url in a thread that is just a thumbnail, but enlarges to it's original size when clicked?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 08 January 2014, 13:53:53
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 13:40:08
    Does anyone know how you can post an image url in a thread that is just a thumbnail, but enlarges to it's original size when clicked?

    I find it easiest to host on an external site (imgur, flickr) and then insert into a post using the [ img ] and [ /img ] (without spaces) tags (available as a button above the smilies).  When you do it this way, it will be a thumbnail that pops up and blows up when clicked.  Is that what you mean?  Or am I misunderstanding?   :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 08 January 2014, 14:10:20
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 13:40:08
    Does anyone know how you can post an image url in a thread that is just a thumbnail, but enlarges to it's original size when clicked?

    Just attach it to the thread and then choose the option of "Inline expandable thumbnail".  That will give you the functionality you are looking for (if I understand correctly).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 02:33:04
    Matias or Thorpek?
    I've tried MX tactile no match for me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 09 January 2014, 05:02:51
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 02:33:04
    Matias or Thorpek?
    I've tried MX tactile no match for me

    Try both, choose one (or both). It's a matter of taste.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ninjadoc on Thu, 09 January 2014, 05:07:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 22:03:10
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:41:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:31:20
    Tabs I got apart. I don't see any screws on the back...And I don't have POM :(. Wait, this board had POM caps??

    Those posts don't look like screw points, but I dont have the actual KB to compare. there's got to be some way to take it apart though.

    Hm, on closer inspection there are tabs and some cutouts on the backside. I'll snap a picture tomorrow. They feel extremely unyielding through...

    Quote from: tbc on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:42:16
    legend backlighting has the LED inside the MX housing LED slot so that the LEDis directly underneath the legend.

    zone backlighting involves placing the LED away from the switch housing.  you do NOT get backlit legends; only the underglow effect

    i'm wondering about the zone backlighting because having LEDs and enjoying the option to pop the switch top off to change srprings/stems isn't compatible when you're using legend backlighting (without modding each switch top yourself).  zone backlighting is an option for me because I ONLY care about underglow lighting effect and do not need the legends to be visible in the dark.

    So I think you need a polycarb sandwich case or something acrylic more than you need a PCB. Can't you just put the LED on backwards and bend it into place? I know that Binge's 2TU and Sifo's GON (http://imgur.com/a/kHOZn) have that effect. But I feel like its more of a function of the case than the PCB. Seems like you just need to get a PCB that supports LEDs (KMAC, GON, 2TU, many other korean customs), don't populate the LEDs under the keycaps, put the LEDS on backwards, and bend them into place behind the PCB and case.

    Do a web search. I found an exploded drawing somewhere(Cherry?) and still didn't understand how to take it apart. Still waiting on you do do it! :)


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 09 January 2014, 05:42:56
    Does anyone know who (in CONUS) can reload 356mini firmware? Or some professional service provider that is probably able to do this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:17:44
    What alternative of MCP23018 I/O?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:21:19
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:17:44
    What alternative of MCP23018 I/O?

    What exactly are you trying to do with this? I just don't know what an I/O does.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:27:48
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:17:44
    What alternative of MCP23018 I/O?

    What is the problem with using it, it is easily available via many online electronic component stores.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:41:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:21:19
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:17:44
    What alternative of MCP23018 I/O?

    What exactly are you trying to do with this? I just don't know what an I/O does.
    for half hand like ergodox then to connector
    Quote from: MOZ on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:27:48
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:17:44
    What alternative of MCP23018 I/O?

    What is the problem with using it, it is easily available via many online electronic component stores.
    shipping :mad:
    i found this in my local store
    http://m.kaskus.co.id/post/52ca31850d8b46e07c8b4597#post52ca31850d8b46e07c8b4597 (http://m.kaskus.co.id/post/52ca31850d8b46e07c8b4597#post52ca31850d8b46e07c8b4597)

    any suggest others
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:46:11
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:41:49
    Quote from: MOZ on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:27:48
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 07:17:44
    What alternative of MCP23018 I/O?

    What is the problem with using it, it is easily available via many online electronic component stores.
    shipping :mad:
    i found this in my local store
    http://m.kaskus.co.id/post/52ca31850d8b46e07c8b4597#post52ca31850d8b46e07c8b4597 (http://m.kaskus.co.id/post/52ca31850d8b46e07c8b4597#post52ca31850d8b46e07c8b4597)

    any suggest others

    Get someone (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37277.0) to proxy for you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trippy on Thu, 09 January 2014, 19:29:44
    Just wanted to let y'all know that I'm liking my QFR. Also enjoying brown switches :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 09 January 2014, 19:30:33
    Filco ninja white has white or black plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 09 January 2014, 20:49:29
    Probably the same as any other white filco
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:19:04
    [attach=1]
    What black color used for screw? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:56:29
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:19:04
    (Attachment Link)
    What black color used for screw? :)

    Not sure what you're asking.  It's black suede in the bottom and standoffs with standard M2 screws.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 23:48:04
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:56:29
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 21:19:04
    (Attachment Link)
    What black color used for screw? :)

    Not sure what you're asking.  It's black suede in the bottom and standoffs with standard M2 screws.
    and what name Chop/connector/female screw you used?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 09 January 2014, 23:54:57
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 23:48:04
    and what name Chop/connector/female screw you used?

    You'll have to figure that one out on your own.  I did a fair amount of experimenting with the case designs and materials to see what would work and what wouldn't work for my case design.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 10 January 2014, 00:00:27
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 09 January 2014, 23:54:57
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 January 2014, 23:48:04
    and what name Chop/connector/female screw you used?

    You'll have to figure that one out on your own.  I did a fair amount of experimenting with the case designs and materials to see what would work and what wouldn't work for my case design.
    yeah, ;D i've search the name is standoffs/female screw :)
    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 02:43:54
    Hello fellow GHers.
    As this is the first time i'm installing blank keycaps, i would like to ask all of you: What's the best way to do it without screwing the setup and the rows up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:14:41
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 02:43:54
    As this is the first time i'm installing blank keycaps, i would like to ask all of you: What's the best way to do it without screwing the setup and the rows up.

    Sort them beforehand. You can identify the row profiles by sorting the keycaps by length: Longest (2.75) is the right shift, second longest are the left shift and enter (2.25), next is the backspace (2). You now have three row profiles identified and should be able to sort the rest.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:28:24
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 02:43:54
    Hello fellow GHers.
    As this is the first time i'm installing blank keycaps, i would like to ask all of you: What's the best way to do it without screwing the setup and the rows up.


    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32503.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48588.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=27744.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32779.0

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25112.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:30:45
    If I use a German QWERTZ keyboard on a Norwegian computer, will it be possible to make it QWERTY somehow, maybe it changes automatic?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:59:25
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:14:41
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 02:43:54
    As this is the first time i'm installing blank keycaps, i would like to ask all of you: What's the best way to do it without screwing the setup and the rows up.

    Sort them beforehand. You can identify the row profiles by sorting the keycaps by length: Longest (2.75) is the right shift, second longest are the left shift and enter (2.25), next is the backspace (2). You now have three row profiles identified and should be able to sort the rest.
    Thanks, I kind of figured it out. I just have an issue with the enter key.
    It stays stuck in the bottom-out position, and no matter how much i try, it wont fit as the all the other keys.
    Does anyone have a fix for this issue maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:01:53
    Your PC does not know what layout your keyboard has. If you set your layout to QWERTY on your PC it will behave like QWERTY, so it will show a Y when you press the key next to R.

    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:59:25
    Thanks, I kind of figured it out. I just have an issue with the enter key.
    It stays stuck in the bottom-out position, and no matter how much i try, it wont fit as the all the other keys.
    Does anyone have a fix for this issue maybe?

    Sounds like a stabilizer issue. Double check them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:08:50
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:01:53
    Your PC does not know what layout your keyboard has. If you set your layout to QWERTY on your PC it will behave like QWERTY, so it will show a Y when you press the key next to R.

    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:59:25
    Thanks, I kind of figured it out. I just have an issue with the enter key.
    It stays stuck in the bottom-out position, and no matter how much i try, it wont fit as the all the other keys.
    Does anyone have a fix for this issue maybe?

    Sounds like a stabilizer issue. Double check them.
    I did. After searching on the forum for a bit, it seems i need to do something like this
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuyah/Keyboard/FilcoPOS/shift_chopped_angled.jpg
    Wow it would really ache me to butcher imsto's thick enter like this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:39:39
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:08:50
    I did. After searching on the forum for a bit, it seems i need to do something like this
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuyah/Keyboard/FilcoPOS/shift_chopped_angled.jpg
    Wow it would really ache me to butcher imsto's thick enter like this.

    Are you sure that the key get stuck on the stabilizer? What keyboard do you have? Can you move the stabilizer itself without the keycap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:49:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:39:39
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:08:50
    I did. After searching on the forum for a bit, it seems i need to do something like this
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuyah/Keyboard/FilcoPOS/shift_chopped_angled.jpg
    Wow it would really ache me to butcher imsto's thick enter like this.

    Are you sure that the key get stuck on the stabilizer? What keyboard do you have? Can you move the stabilizer itself without the keycap?
    FILCO MAJESTOUCH 2 TKL w Blue MX, now i got it to unstuck, but it still grinds. Btw, the caps are blue blank thick PBT from imsto.
    It really seems that there is no other solution than to butcher the enter from the inside? It's funny because space fits just fine, i only got problems with grinding with enter and left shift.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 10 January 2014, 06:44:05
    There's no chance the stabilizer inserts are on backwards? The longer side of the insert should be facing the top of the keyboard if you're looking at it from above. (You may already know this, but I figure it's better to check before we start altering keys.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 06:53:08
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 10 January 2014, 06:44:05
    There's no chance the stabilizer inserts are on backwards? The longer side of the insert should be facing the top of the keyboard if you're looking at it from above. (You may already know this, but I figure it's better to check before we start altering keys.)
    Yes, figured it out during the process:D
    The thing is, when the stabilisers were pointing downwards with the longer end, the enter got stuck. Now that they are pointing upwards, it just grinds horribly.
    Almost as if i had cherry stabilisers, though the feeling is even worse.
    What to do? :///
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 06:58:35
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 06:53:08
    Yes, figured it out during the process:D
    The thing is, when the stabilisers were pointing downwards with the longer end, the enter got stuck. Now that they are pointing upwards, it just grinds horribly.
    Almost as if i had cherry stabilisers, though the feeling is even worse.
    What to do? :///

    If you really want to shave the inside off a bit I would try it with sandpaper. I searched on GH as well and it seems like a few people have the same issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:00:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 06:58:35
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 06:53:08
    Yes, figured it out during the process:D
    The thing is, when the stabilisers were pointing downwards with the longer end, the enter got stuck. Now that they are pointing upwards, it just grinds horribly.
    Almost as if i had cherry stabilisers, though the feeling is even worse.
    What to do? :///

    If you really want to shave the inside off a bit I would try it with sandpaper. I searched on GH as well and it seems like a few people have the same issue.
    Oh, do you think that the sandpaper would be enough? Yes, i've been searching as well and found out the same.
    I'm gonna wait a day or two if someone has a more refined solution, if not i will just have to do it :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:00:51
    Also, a big thanks to all who provided answers! I love this community :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:07:30
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:01:53
    Your PC does not know what layout your keyboard has. If you set your layout to QWERTY on your PC it will behave like QWERTY, so it will show a Y when you press the key next to R.

    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:59:25
    Thanks, I kind of figured it out. I just have an issue with the enter key.
    It stays stuck in the bottom-out position, and no matter how much i try, it wont fit as the all the other keys.
    Does anyone have a fix for this issue maybe?

    Sounds like a stabilizer issue. Double check them.

    Thanks. Can you tell me how I can change it? (if it's really simple)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:35:17
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:00:16
    Oh, do you think that the sandpaper would be enough? Yes, i've been searching as well and found out the same.
    I'm gonna wait a day or two if someone has a more refined solution, if not i will just have to do it :/

    It would probably not be the fastest way but will probably look better than one you posted :))

    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:07:30
    Thanks. Can you tell me how I can change it? (if it's really simple)

    It depends on your OS. For Windows just search your control panel or see this link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/258824/en
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:46:21
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:46:21
    It would probably not be the fastest way but will probably look better than one you posted :))
    I am willing to sacrifice as much time as neccesary. Better spend some more time and not totally ruin IMSTO's thick PBT. They really are beautiful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:50:02
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:46:21
    I am willing to sacrifice as much time as neccesary. Better spend some more time and not totally ruin IMSTO's thick PBT. They really are beautiful.

    That is the spirit. Please wait a day or so in case anybody else has a better solution to this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 January 2014, 08:16:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:50:02
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:46:21
    I am willing to sacrifice as much time as neccesary. Better spend some more time and not totally ruin IMSTO's thick PBT. They really are beautiful.

    That is the spirit. Please wait a day or so in case anybody else has a better solution to this.

    I put IMSTO thick PBT on my Filco Majestouch 2 for a test way back when. I didn't have any issues with grinding. You could try sanding down the wire a little or bending the wire so that it's out of the way. I recall someone saying they just went without the stabilizer wire which I don't recommend.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 10 January 2014, 08:43:53
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:08:50
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:01:53
    Your PC does not know what layout your keyboard has. If you set your layout to QWERTY on your PC it will behave like QWERTY, so it will show a Y when you press the key next to R.

    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:59:25
    Thanks, I kind of figured it out. I just have an issue with the enter key.
    It stays stuck in the bottom-out position, and no matter how much i try, it wont fit as the all the other keys.
    Does anyone have a fix for this issue maybe?

    Sounds like a stabilizer issue. Double check them.
    I did. After searching on the forum for a bit, it seems i need to do something like this
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuyah/Keyboard/FilcoPOS/shift_chopped_angled.jpg
    Wow it would really ache me to butcher imsto's thick enter like this.

    I have the same caps, I didn't have to do anything to them. Make sure the long part of the stabs are pointed towards the top of your board.

    Next LUBE THE STABILIZERS. It is almost guaranteed to fix it.

    Don't modify the keycap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codymaust on Fri, 10 January 2014, 09:41:19
    Can I replace the springs on a stock QFR?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 10 January 2014, 09:42:16
    Quote from: codymaust on Fri, 10 January 2014, 09:41:19
    Can I replace the springs on a stock QFR?

    Most certainly. It will require desoldering all of your switches, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 January 2014, 09:43:22
    Quote from: codymaust on Fri, 10 January 2014, 09:41:19
    Can I replace the springs on a stock QFR?

    Yes. You need to remove all the switches from the plate and PCB and open the switches up though. In other words, the plate doesn't have cutouts that will allow you to take the switch tops off and speed up the process.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 10 January 2014, 10:08:06
    Does acrylic case used in ergodox gets hairline scratches easily?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mechabit on Fri, 10 January 2014, 10:35:35
    Hey guys, I have quite a few basic questions regarding Poker II if you can help.

    1. When searching for Poker II, I find some are branded "KBT Poker II" and some "Vortex Poker II" and a couple "Vortex KBT Poker II". Are these all the same, are they all made by Vortex or is KBT a brand?

    2. Does Poker II have N-Key Rollover? Mechanicalkeyboards.com says 6-key rollover, however some other sites have said different.

    3. Where can you get a coiled USB cord like this:


    4. How do the arrow keys work on WASD. If I'm playing Daggerfall the A key is 'Ready Weapon', is there like a toggle to make WASD arrows? I'm just a little confused on the design there.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 10:52:15
    Quote from: mechabit on Fri, 10 January 2014, 10:35:35
    1. When searching for Poker II, I find some are branded "KBT Poker II" and some "Vortex Poker II" and a couple "Vortex KBT Poker II". Are these all the same, are they all made by Vortex or is KBT a brand?
    2. Does Poker II have N-Key Rollover? Mechanicalkeyboards.com says 6-key rollover, however some other sites have said different.
    3. Where can you get a coiled USB cord like this:

    4. How do the arrow keys work on WASD. If I'm playing Daggerfall the A key is 'Ready Weapon', is there like a toggle to make WASD arrows? I'm just a little confused on the design there.

    1. KBT is afaik a sub-brand of Vortex, just as KBC (correct me if I'm wrong here). They are the same keyboards.
    2. 6-key rollover via USB and n-key rollover via PS2 (I think). A firmware upgrade makes n-key rollover via USB possible: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50245.0
    3. Feng offers it (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buffalo-Orange-USB-2-0-Coiled-Cable-Type-A-to-mini-B-/231003033600?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c8da9000).
    4. Keep Fn pressed or press Fn and space to lock it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 11:02:21
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 10 January 2014, 08:43:53
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:08:50
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:01:53
    Your PC does not know what layout your keyboard has. If you set your layout to QWERTY on your PC it will behave like QWERTY, so it will show a Y when you press the key next to R.

    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:59:25
    Thanks, I kind of figured it out. I just have an issue with the enter key.
    It stays stuck in the bottom-out position, and no matter how much i try, it wont fit as the all the other keys.
    Does anyone have a fix for this issue maybe?

    I did. After searching on the forum for a bit, it seems i need to do something like this
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuyah/Keyboard/FilcoPOS/shift_chopped_angled.jpg
    Wow it would really ache me to butcher imsto's thick enter like this.

    I have the same caps, I didn't have to do anything to them. Make sure the long part of the stabs are pointed towards the top of your board.

    Next LUBE THE STABILIZERS. It is almost guaranteed to fix it.

    Don't modify the keycap.
    Dunno, i can't imagine lube helping out with the wire touching the inner site. Yes, it would make it smoother for some time, but ...
    You said you have the same caps. Do you also have the same keyboard? FILCO TKL?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 January 2014, 11:05:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 10:52:15
    Quote from: mechabit on Fri, 10 January 2014, 10:35:35
    1. When searching for Poker II, I find some are branded "KBT Poker II" and some "Vortex Poker II" and a couple "Vortex KBT Poker II". Are these all the same, are they all made by Vortex or is KBT a brand?
    2. Does Poker II have N-Key Rollover? Mechanicalkeyboards.com says 6-key rollover, however some other sites have said different.
    3. Where can you get a coiled USB cord like this:

    4. How do the arrow keys work on WASD. If I'm playing Daggerfall the A key is 'Ready Weapon', is there like a toggle to make WASD arrows? I'm just a little confused on the design there.

    1. KBT is afaik a sub-brand of Vortex, just as KBC (correct me if I'm wrong here). They are the same keyboards.
    2. 6-key rollover via USB and n-key rollover via PS2 (I think). A firmware upgrade makes n-key rollover via USB possible: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50245.0
    3. Feng offers it (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buffalo-Orange-USB-2-0-Coiled-Cable-Type-A-to-mini-B-/231003033600?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c8da9000).
    4. Keep Fn pressed or press Fn and space to lock it.

    Just remember with the Firmware upgrade to make NKRO over USB possible it will most likely not play nice with MAC.  This is not anything wrong with the firmware.  Just an issue with the way NKRO is implemented over USB doesn't work with the way Mac OS sees multiple peripheral devices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 10 January 2014, 11:08:08
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:35:17
    Quote from: isaske on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:00:16
    Oh, do you think that the sandpaper would be enough? Yes, i've been searching as well and found out the same.
    I'm gonna wait a day or two if someone has a more refined solution, if not i will just have to do it :/

    It would probably not be the fastest way but will probably look better than one you posted :))

    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 10 January 2014, 07:07:30
    Thanks. Can you tell me how I can change it? (if it's really simple)

    It depends on your OS. For Windows just search your control panel or see this link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/258824/en

    Thanks buddy, figured it out. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 10 January 2014, 11:10:49
    KBC and KBT are keyboard designers in Taiwan. KBT is Yeager, and I think KBC is (was?) a group of (3?) designers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Fri, 10 January 2014, 11:16:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 10 January 2014, 11:05:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 10 January 2014, 10:52:15
    Quote from: mechabit on Fri, 10 January 2014, 10:35:35
    1. When searching for Poker II, I find some are branded "KBT Poker II" and some "Vortex Poker II" and a couple "Vortex KBT Poker II". Are these all the same, are they all made by Vortex or is KBT a brand?
    2. Does Poker II have N-Key Rollover? Mechanicalkeyboards.com says 6-key rollover, however some other sites have said different.
    3. Where can you get a coiled USB cord like this:

    4. How do the arrow keys work on WASD. If I'm playing Daggerfall the A key is 'Ready Weapon', is there like a toggle to make WASD arrows? I'm just a little confused on the design there.

    1. KBT is afaik a sub-brand of Vortex, just as KBC (correct me if I'm wrong here). They are the same keyboards.
    2. 6-key rollover via USB and n-key rollover via PS2 (I think). A firmware upgrade makes n-key rollover via USB possible: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50245.0
    3. Feng offers it (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buffalo-Orange-USB-2-0-Coiled-Cable-Type-A-to-mini-B-/231003033600?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c8da9000).
    4. Keep Fn pressed or press Fn and space to lock it.

    Just remember with the Firmware upgrade to make NKRO over USB possible it will most likely not play nice with MAC.  This is not anything wrong with the firmware.  Just an issue with the way NKRO is implemented over USB doesn't work with the way Mac OS sees multiple peripheral devices.
    It does not work so good on some PC motherboards as some act wonkey with nkro over usb. On some you have to disable it and restart to get to bios settings, and some work fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 10 January 2014, 21:30:30
    This is unsolicited, but I thought some of the readers of this thread may be interested in these results.

    There have been quite a few questions in other threads regarding key travel and what gets hit on bottom out and how orings affect key travel for different profiles.

    I have done a pretty extensive post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53174.msg1186392#msg1186392) with a calliper and some different keycaps and orings which may be interesting for a larger audience.  Cheers...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:05:34
    What are the difference between ABS and PBT caps? I am asking because I have no idea what people are talking about when they talk about different types of caps. After trawling through about a dozen pages of this thread I have learnt what doubleshots are (yay!) but what are ABS and PBT? Or any other types of caps for that matter? And how can I differenciate between them?

    Also, circuit boards. What is the difference between a PCB or a plate? From what I've understood so far, plate mounted switches are easy to take on and off, but thats about it.

    Thanks for helping an idiot out (Y)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:28:11
    Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:05:34
    What are the difference between ABS and PBT caps? I am asking because I have no idea what people are talking about when they talk about different types of caps. After trawling through about a dozen pages of this thread I have learnt what doubleshots are (yay!) but what are ABS and PBT? Or any other types of caps for that matter? And how can I differenciate between them?

    Also, circuit boards. What is the difference between a PCB or a plate? From what I've understood so far, plate mounted switches are easy to take on and off, but thats about it.

    Thanks for helping an idiot out (Y)

    Materials:
    ABS and PBT (and POM) are different types of plastic.

    ABS - smooth and dry feeling
    PBT - textured and dry feeling
    POM - smooth and wet feeling
    (correct me if I am wrong on anything)

    Standard Profiles:
    OEM - Stands a little taller (Filco stock keycaps for example)
    Cherry - Is more low profile than OEM
    More
    Cherry, OEM, OEM
    [attachimg=1]


    Thicknesses:
    Thick - Some DS and Thick PBT
    Medium - Some DS and Medium PBT
    Thin - Some DS and standard caps
    More
    Thick PBT, Medium PBT, Stock Filco
    [attachimg=2]


    Legends:
    Doubleshot (DS) - Legends are one shot and rest of the keycap is another (basically), so the legends will never wear out.
    Dye sublimation (Dyesub) - I believe it is done by masking and dying the keycap or something like that.  it wears pretty well.
    Pad Printed - Printed on top of the cap, it wears off pretty easily.
    Laser Etched - The legends are etched out out of the cap, you can feel the legends under your finger.  Can fade, but relatively permanent.
    Engraved - Material is removed to create the legends and there is usually not another color introduced.  Permanent, but can fill with finger oil.
    More
    DyeSub, Laser Etched, Pad Printed
    [attachimg=3]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:52:02
    Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:05:34
    1) What are the difference between ABS and PBT caps?

    2) Also circuit boards? What is the difference between a PCB or a plate mounted switches?

    1) Check out this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.msg1103648#msg1103648) for some more info on ABS and PBT.

    2) PCB vs plate mounted is how the switches are mounted. It doesn't describe that actual circuit board. Are they mounted on a metal plate above the PCB or are they mounted directly on a PCB? Some pictures:

    (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/mx_mntop.gif)
    From Cherry's datasheet on Cherry MX switches (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm)

    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7192/7139061549_c5d1c218d7_b.jpg)
    From John Diew's review (http://www.johndiew.com/2012/05/kbc-poker-x/).

    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1828.jpg)
    From WFD's Universal Plate GB thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.0).

    Quote from: swill on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:28:11
    Materials:
    ABS and PBT (and POM) are different types of plastic.

    ABS - smooth and dry feeling
    PBT - textured and dry feeling
    POM - smooth and wet feeling
    (correct me if I am wrong on anything)

    I'm not really sure wet and dry are the best way to describe it. But that's just my opinion. To me:

    ABS feels smooth
    PBT feels rough
    POM feels slick/slippery
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:56:12
    how make feel linear better? o rings(thicker?) lubed(what oil used for lubed?).etc
    any someone ever mod linear like others switch
    any experience?

    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:59:37
    Thank you both!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:00:18
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:56:12
    how make feel linear better? o rings(thicker?) lubed(what oil used for lubed?).etc
    any someone ever mod linear like others switch
    any experience?

    It's subjective. You've suggested the common mods. You can also try swapping out springs.  I have 65g lubed MX blacks on my Epsilon and I love them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:10:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:00:18
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:56:12
    how make feel linear better? o rings(thicker?) lubed(what oil used for lubed?).etc
    any someone ever mod linear like others switch
    any experience?

    It's subjective. You've suggested the common mods. You can also try swapping out springs.  I have 65g lubed MX blacks on my Epsilon and I love them.
    What oil can be used for lubricating? oil mainly for plastic?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:24:54
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:10:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:00:18
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:56:12
    how make feel linear better? o rings(thicker?) lubed(what oil used for lubed?).etc
    any someone ever mod linear like others switch
    any experience?

    It's subjective. You've suggested the common mods. You can also try swapping out springs.  I have 65g lubed MX blacks on my Epsilon and I love them.
    What oil can be used for lubricating? oil mainly for plastic?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51181.msg1144548#msg1144548

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:25:27
    For lubricating switches, you only want to use Krytox, available from the Geekhackers store via originativeco.com. You will want to use a mixture of grease and oil on the sliders of the switch stems. There is a switch lubrication guide here somewhere. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:26:30
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:10:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:00:18
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:56:12
    how make feel linear better? o rings(thicker?) lubed(what oil used for lubed?).etc
    any someone ever mod linear like others switch
    any experience?

    It's subjective. You've suggested the common mods. You can also try swapping out springs.  I have 65g lubed MX blacks on my Epsilon and I love them.
    What oil can be used for lubricating? oil mainly for plastic?

    Krytox is a popular choice.I don't know about it's availability in Japan, though.

    Sniped by JD!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 11 January 2014, 11:33:22
    Thanks All
    in my country sell it :)) :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Sat, 11 January 2014, 14:14:34
    I'm about 90% sure of this any but thought I'd double check before going ahead and buying more stuff.

    I have a Cherry ML4100 that works in various desktop computers PS/2 port but not in my laptop when run through a passive PS/2 -> USB converter. Am I correct in thinking that I therefore need an active converter? (I foolishly didn't even consider that I would need an active one if this is the case)

    In related news, would anyone like a passive PS/2 -> USB? If so, PM me and its yours for the shipping cost.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 11 January 2014, 14:29:01
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sat, 11 January 2014, 14:14:34
    I'm about 90% sure of this any but thought I'd double check before going ahead and buying more stuff.

    I have a Cherry ML4100 that works in various desktop computers PS/2 port but not in my laptop when run through a passive PS/2 -> USB converter. Am I correct in thinking that I therefore need an active converter? (I foolishly didn't even consider that I would need an active one if this is the case)

    In related news, would anyone like a passive PS/2 -> USB? If so, PM me and its yours for the shipping cost.
    The ML4101 that I own needed an active one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lilky on Sat, 11 January 2014, 14:41:30
    In regards to Sprit's current group buy going on, how do his springs compare to stock springs? I know Korean springs are lighter than their stock counterparts, but does being different material (gold, silver, etc) have an impact on that as well?

    His options range from 55g to 120g. If I wanted something equivalent to stock reds, what would be the closest Korean equivalent spring? Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 15:43:26
    See:

    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/files/spring-rate-chart.jpg?1061)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 15:59:14
    I want to take off the keycaps from my Das Ultimate so I can clean the hair out of the board better. Since the keys are blank is there any easy way to keep track of the keys without laying them out in order of which you took them off?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:00:00
    IIRC they're numbered
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:00:40
    Quote from: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 15:59:14
    I want to take off the keycaps from my Das Ultimate and so I can clean the hair out of the board better. Since the keys are blank is there any easy way to keep track of the keys without laying them out in order of which you took them off?
    I suggest grouping them in piles based on the row you take them off. That is usually the easiest way, each keycap should have the row it belongs to designated in the bottom/inside of the keycap if you accidentally mix them up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:02:08
    Quote from: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 15:59:14
    I want to take off the keycaps from my Das Ultimate so I can clean the hair out of the board better. Since the keys are blank is there any easy way to keep track of the keys without laying them out in order of which you took them off?
    Wait isn't the easy way to lay them in order even if they are not blank? That way you don't have to check every single key before putting it back on the keyboard even if you know what key and where it belongs...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:05:02
    Quote from: Candyflip on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:02:08
    Quote from: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 15:59:14
    I want to take off the keycaps from my Das Ultimate so I can clean the hair out of the board better. Since the keys are blank is there any easy way to keep track of the keys without laying them out in order of which you took them off?
    Wait isn't the easy way to lay them in order even if they are not blank? That way you don't have to check every single key before putting it back on the keyboard even if you know what key and where it belongs...

    Yea, but if I end up bumping the spot where I placed them and they get mixed up that could be a conundrum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:05:58
    Quote from: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:05:02
    Quote from: Candyflip on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:02:08
    Quote from: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 15:59:14
    I want to take off the keycaps from my Das Ultimate so I can clean the hair out of the board better. Since the keys are blank is there any easy way to keep track of the keys without laying them out in order of which you took them off?
    Wait isn't the easy way to lay them in order even if they are not blank? That way you don't have to check every single key before putting it back on the keyboard even if you know what key and where it belongs...

    Yea, but if I end up bumping the spot where I placed them and they get mixed up that could be a conundrum.
    I would use ziploc bags in that case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:07:10
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:05:58
    Quote from: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:05:02
    Quote from: Candyflip on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:02:08
    Quote from: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 15:59:14
    I want to take off the keycaps from my Das Ultimate so I can clean the hair out of the board better. Since the keys are blank is there any easy way to keep track of the keys without laying them out in order of which you took them off?
    Wait isn't the easy way to lay them in order even if they are not blank? That way you don't have to check every single key before putting it back on the keyboard even if you know what key and where it belongs...

    Yea, but if I end up bumping the spot where I placed them and they get mixed up that could be a conundrum.
    I would use ziploc bags in that case.

    Alright, I suppose I will do it by rows in separate bags.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:09:49
    Actually, do you guys think it would work well to print out the keyboard layout and lay (maybe tape) the keycaps on top of each corresponding spot on the layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:11:14
    It's probably quite a bit less effort to just use plastic bags.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:12:19
    Quote from: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:09:49
    Actually, do you guys think it would work well to print out the keyboard layout and lay (maybe tape) the keycaps on top of each corresponding spot on the layout?
    It can work out but I would not go that route, it will cost you more time than just simply marking the rows in a different bag.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:13:50
    Quote from: Trippy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 16:09:49
    Actually, do you guys think it would work well to print out the keyboard layout and lay (maybe tape) the keycaps on top of each corresponding spot on the layout?
    Seems like a lot of work, I use blank keycaps all the time and I never had any problems taking them off and putting them back together. It doesn't take any longer than if the keycaps are printed. I would say its possibly faster to put blank keycaps back on since you only really have to follow by rows. If they all get mixed up it takes forever to get them all back together because some rows of keycaps look so close to each other, the only row that looks distinctly different is row 4 imo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 11 January 2014, 18:36:44
    Days caps are in fact numbered on the bottom.  Well, mine are anyway.  And yes they are blank.  Another note on this.  Iirc the top two rows are not numbered but are the same profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: damorgue on Sun, 12 January 2014, 10:17:46
    Is there a good guide for restoration of yellowed plastic?

    Best way? Denture tabs, eraser, hydrogen peroxide or some other method?

    Different methods depending on whether it is yellowed by UV decay of the polymers or ingrown foreign contaminants such as tobacco smoke?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 12 January 2014, 10:21:21
    Quote from: damorgue on Sun, 12 January 2014, 10:17:46
    Is there a good guide for restoration of yellowed plastic?

    Denture tabs work great for cleaning general dirt and hydrogen peroxide/retrobright (theres a few threads for some mixtures) for yellowed plastic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 January 2014, 20:24:15
    Where can I find the most detailed guide on reflashing a Teensy?  I want to get this old wyse board working to use as I like the layout but want to try it.  I don't do that well with software and that sort of thing.  So I would be wanting as much detail as I can.  If it makes a difference I am planning on using one of Soarers firmwares from this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52597.0).  The board I am using is the 60 ASCII.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 January 2014, 20:29:46
    Quote from: damorgue on Sun, 12 January 2014, 10:17:46
    Is there a good guide for restoration of yellowed plastic?

    Best way? Denture tabs, eraser, hydrogen peroxide or some other method?

    Different methods depending on whether it is yellowed by UV decay of the polymers or ingrown foreign contaminants such as tobacco smoke?

    I think I usually see people doing retr0bright. The original guide can be found here (http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/). There's some discussion about it on DT here (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/retrobright-madness-t667.html) and here (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/retrobrite-the-yellow-strikes-back-t6084.html).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 January 2014, 20:41:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 January 2014, 20:29:46
    Quote from: damorgue on Sun, 12 January 2014, 10:17:46
    Is there a good guide for restoration of yellowed plastic?

    Best way? Denture tabs, eraser, hydrogen peroxide or some other method?

    Different methods depending on whether it is yellowed by UV decay of the polymers or ingrown foreign contaminants such as tobacco smoke?

    I think I usually see people doing retr0bright. The original guide can be found here (http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/). There's some discussion about it on DT here (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/retrobright-madness-t667.html) and here (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/retrobrite-the-yellow-strikes-back-t6084.html).

    Just keep in mind that retr0brighting does change the structure and integrity of the plastic some (http://aktuelbevaring.natmus.dk/afrensning-af-plast-med-retrobright.html).  I've seen some thinner and/or slightly less sound caps damaged by it, so only do it if the caps are thicker and/or strong and not showing signs of brittleness.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:04:14
    Does every rubber dome on the HHKB have a spring under it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:15:15
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:04:14
    Does every rubber dome on the HHKB have a spring under it?

    yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:38:39
    Quote from: naasfu on Sun, 12 January 2014, 18:06:12
    Quote from: Vaii on Sun, 12 January 2014, 17:56:09
    Damn me waiting a couple of seconds after the timer ended so I wouldn't be too early.
    Doh, I had done the same thing.  Dang.  I was really looking forward to getting my first Brobot for my first mech keyboard. :)

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:15:15
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:04:14
    Does every rubber dome on the HHKB have a spring under it?

    yes

    Spacebar too?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:41:08
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:38:39
    Quote from: naasfu on Sun, 12 January 2014, 18:06:12
    Quote from: Vaii on Sun, 12 January 2014, 17:56:09
    Damn me waiting a couple of seconds after the timer ended so I wouldn't be too early.
    Doh, I had done the same thing.  Dang.  I was really looking forward to getting my first Brobot for my first mech keyboard. :)

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:15:15
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:04:14
    Does every rubber dome on the HHKB have a spring under it?

    yes

    Spacebar too?

    Yes the spring under the dome is what makes the keypress register, so they have to have them in order for the keyboard to function properly.

    The space bar also has an external supplemental spring on the stem as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Mon, 13 January 2014, 00:08:41
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:41:08
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:38:39
    Quote from: naasfu on Sun, 12 January 2014, 18:06:12
    Quote from: Vaii on Sun, 12 January 2014, 17:56:09
    Damn me waiting a couple of seconds after the timer ended so I wouldn't be too early.
    Doh, I had done the same thing.  Dang.  I was really looking forward to getting my first Brobot for my first mech keyboard. :)

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:15:15
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:04:14
    Does every rubber dome on the HHKB have a spring under it?

    yes

    Spacebar too?

    Yes the spring under the dome is what makes the keypress register, so they have to have them in order for the keyboard to function properly.

    The space bar also has an external supplemental spring on the stem as well.

    Thanks! Are the domes on the HHKB all 45g or are some different? I think I saw something about the escape being lighter but I can't find it again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 13 January 2014, 07:05:28
    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 13 January 2014, 00:08:41
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:41:08
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:38:39
    Quote from: naasfu on Sun, 12 January 2014, 18:06:12
    Quote from: Vaii on Sun, 12 January 2014, 17:56:09
    Damn me waiting a couple of seconds after the timer ended so I wouldn't be too early.
    Doh, I had done the same thing.  Dang.  I was really looking forward to getting my first Brobot for my first mech keyboard. :)

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:15:15
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 22:04:14
    Does every rubber dome on the HHKB have a spring under it?

    yes

    Spacebar too?

    Yes the spring under the dome is what makes the keypress register, so they have to have them in order for the keyboard to function properly.

    The space bar also has an external supplemental spring on the stem as well.

    Thanks! Are the domes on the HHKB all 45g or are some different? I think I saw something about the escape being lighter but I can't find it again.

    AFAIK they are all 45g
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 13 January 2014, 13:54:13
    What goes into a topre type s? By that I mean what is the difference between that and a stock one. I know that the type s is silenced obviously but from what I can see the only difference is that there is a little foam circle that sits on the switch that dampens the sound. Why in the world does that cost 140 dollars more than a stock one?

    Shouldn't it be a preference thing? I see plenty of people here who use rubber bands to mimic the type s dampening, I am just confused about the price difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 13 January 2014, 13:59:12
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 13 January 2014, 13:54:13
    What goes into a topre type s? By that I mean what is the difference between that and a stock one. I know that the type s is silenced obviously but from what I can see the only difference is that there is a little foam circle that sits on the switch that dampens the sound. Why in the world does that cost 140 dollars more than a stock one?

    Shouldn't it be a preference thing? I see plenty of people here who use rubber bands to mimic the type s dampening, I am just confused about the price difference.

    I've read that buying a Type-S is a ripoff because you can just add the dental bands yourself to do the same thing as the silencing insert. I believe that's the only difference. However, I'm by no means a Topre expert (I don't own any Topre nor have I ever). So you should probably see if anyone else can chime in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 13 January 2014, 14:03:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 13 January 2014, 13:59:12
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 13 January 2014, 13:54:13
    What goes into a topre type s? By that I mean what is the difference between that and a stock one. I know that the type s is silenced obviously but from what I can see the only difference is that there is a little foam circle that sits on the switch that dampens the sound. Why in the world does that cost 140 dollars more than a stock one?

    Shouldn't it be a preference thing? I see plenty of people here who use rubber bands to mimic the type s dampening, I am just confused about the price difference.

    I've read that buying a Type-S is a ripoff because you can just add the dental bands yourself to do the same thing as the silencing insert. I believe that's the only difference. However, I'm by no means a Topre expert (I don't own any Topre nor have I ever). So you should probably see if anyone else can chime in.
    Ripoff is an understatement if it is simply just little foam discs lol

    That would be like logitech charging $300 for the g710+ because it has o rings installed. -.-
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 13 January 2014, 14:26:53
    Don't forget the logo...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 14 January 2014, 02:22:51
    What color variations are there for G80s? Not counting special editions. I know there's two-tone, black on white and uniform gray. Are there variations of the uniform gray?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: damorgue on Tue, 14 January 2014, 02:48:45
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 14 January 2014, 02:22:51
    What color variations are there for G80s? Not counting special editions. I know there's two-tone, black on white and uniform gray. Are there variations of the uniform gray?

    I have asked around a bit and simply the amount of different beige is staggering. It is made more difficult by Cherry not distinguishing colour in their article number. Here are three 1501HAD:
    (http://i.imgur.com/Vr24FOJ.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/h3KcdHX.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/VFosNzz.jpg)

    The first and second appear to both have the same warm beige alphas, but different mods. The third looks to be what Cherry calls hellgrau and not warm beige, but the lighting and exposure in that picture is quite different, so it might be the same. Is there any way to be able to identify if they are hellgrau or warm beige. Frankly, distinguishing amongst the warm beiges is more than I need. As long as I can get what are intended to be roughly the same colour, I will be able to match some sets up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nkzt on Tue, 14 January 2014, 03:50:58
    Anyone knows the exact model number of KBC Poker II's keyboard controller? I've seen the photo but I couldn't identify it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 14 January 2014, 04:13:32
    Here's a link to the controller from the Pure: http://www.holtek.com.tw/english/docum/computer/82k94x.htm
    I don't know if the Poker II uses the same chip, but it's possible. No electronics expert though ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nkzt on Tue, 14 January 2014, 04:23:17
    Thanks BlueBär, but Poker II's controller is made by Nuvoton, not Holtek.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:18:22
    Want to purchase a WASD Keyboard. Using a Realforce 87U 55g right now and want that same heavy feel. Would you say Cherry MX Black is the way to go? Thanks in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:29:36
    Quote from: Folio on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:18:22
    Want to purchase a WASD Keyboard. Using a Realforce 87U 55g right now and want that same heavy feel. Would you say Cherry MX Black is the way to go? Thanks in advance.

    MX Black is a linear switch, so it shouldn't be close to Topre. Ergo Clears are often said to be close to Topre, but that is a switch you have to mod yourself from normal Clears, which WASD only offers in the Code keyboard. Is there a specific reason why you want a WASD keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:32:41

    Quote from: Folio on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:18:22
    Want to purchase a WASD Keyboard. Using a Realforce 87U 55g right now and want that same heavy feel. Would you say Cherry MX Black is the way to go? Thanks in advance.

    If you want heavy, just go clears and don't mod them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:55:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:29:36

    MX Black is a linear switch, so it shouldn't be close to Topre. Ergo Clears are often said to be close to Topre, but that is a switch you have to mod yourself from normal Clears, which WASD only offers in the Code keyboard. Is there a specific reason why you want a WASD keyboard?

    Quote from: swill on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:32:41

    If you want heavy, just go clears and don't mod them.

    Good question BlueBär lol. I feel like I just want a more modifiable keyboard because Cherry switches and keycaps are more common. Clears sound perfect for me then. If I switch the caps, will the LED's interfere you think? If not, I will consider. Then again, CODE is all sold out and clears are apparently hard to get. Any suggestions on a TKL Clear switch keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 14 January 2014, 12:11:32
    Quote from: Folio on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:55:59
    Good question BlueBär lol. I feel like I just want a more modifiable keyboard because Cherry switches and keycaps are more common. Clears sound perfect for me then. If I switch the caps, will the LED's interfere you think? If not, I will consider. Then again, CODE is all sold out and clears are apparently hard to get. Any suggestions on a TKL Clear switch keyboard?

    I don't know if the LEDs might interfere with thick Cherry profile caps for example (not sure what LEDs it uses). Somebody else has to answer this.
    I think the Leopold FC700R is available in Clears, too (can't find one for sale though, and also the FC660M (which is not really a TKL).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:40:39

    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 14 January 2014, 12:11:32
    Quote from: Folio on Tue, 14 January 2014, 11:55:59
    Good question BlueBär lol. I feel like I just want a more modifiable keyboard because Cherry switches and keycaps are more common. Clears sound perfect for me then. If I switch the caps, will the LED's interfere you think? If not, I will consider. Then again, CODE is all sold out and clears are apparently hard to get. Any suggestions on a TKL Clear switch keyboard?

    I don't know if the LEDs might interfere with thick Cherry profile caps for example (not sure what LEDs it uses). Somebody else has to answer this.
    I think the Leopold FC700R is available in Clears, too (can't find one for sale though, and also the FC660M (which is not really a TKL).

    I have tested thick pbt keycaps with 2x3x4mm rectangular LEDs and they do not touch. I have heard that if you get the 3mm round LEDs, you have to file off the top.

    I can look around and see if I can find a tkl with clears for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:47:06
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:40:39
    I have tested thick pbt keycaps with 2x3x4mm rectangular LEDs and they do not touch. I have heard that if you get the 3mm round LEDs, you have to file off the top.

    I can look around and see if I can find a tkl with clears for you.

    2x3x4mm work, I know, but we're talking about the original ones from the Code, it uses 3mm round ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:14:34

    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:47:06
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:40:39
    I have tested thick pbt keycaps with 2x3x4mm rectangular LEDs and they do not touch. I have heard that if you get the 3mm round LEDs, you have to file off the top.

    I can look around and see if I can find a tkl with clears for you.

    2x3x4mm work, I know, but we're talking about the original ones from the Code, it uses 3mm round ones.

    Oh, sorry I was not reading carefully enough on my phone.  In that case I don't know. I will have to find the 'file down 3mm round' reference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:15:44
    Is it possible to get 2x3x4 RGB LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:16:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:15:44
    Is it possible to get 2x3x4 RGB LEDs?

    no
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:18:00
    Quote from: kmiller8 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:16:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:15:44
    Is it possible to get 2x3x4 RGB LEDs?

    no

    3mm round rgb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:20:15
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:18:00
    Quote from: kmiller8 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:16:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:15:44
    Is it possible to get 2x3x4 RGB LEDs?

    no

    3mm round rgb?

    no
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:39:41
    Now you have me intrigued on what the smallest through hole ones are
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:48:04
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:39:41
    Now you have me intrigued on what the smallest through hole ones are

    5mm round

    5x5x2mm square

    SMD goes down to 1x1mm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:07:45
    The RGB color changing LEDs on my former KMAC (now owned by Glissant) were 3mm round. I don't know where they came from, though. I bought the KMAC second hand from jrockroll.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:10:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:07:45
    The RGB color changing LEDs on my former KMAC (now owned by Glissant) were 3mm round. I don't know where they came from, though. I bought the KMAC second hand from jrockroll.

    were they 4-lead RGB, or 2-lead "RGB"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:26:09
    2-lead
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:27:19
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:40:39

    I have tested thick pbt keycaps with 2x3x4mm rectangular LEDs and they do not touch. I have heard that if you get the 3mm round LEDs, you have to file off the top.

    I can look around and see if I can find a tkl with clears for you.

    That'd be great Swill! Thanks! I was already looking around for a bit, but no luck. I guess they don't make a lot of them anymore. Also, LED's don't matter to me. Stock caps don't either because I can just replace them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:29:39
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:26:09
    2-lead

    and they just pulsed randomly?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:51:36
    Does anyone know the exact spacing used on WYSE terminal boards?  Wondering if they stuck with the cherry spec for spacing.

    Edit:  question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:07:33
    The keys are 0.75 in just like most keyboards. Not sure what alternative spec cherry has released on this, however.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 07:52:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:51:36
    Question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

    If you drill out the top half, wouldn't you be drilling into the leaf spring? The switch needs the leaf spring to work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:34:50
    Quote from: Folio on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:27:19
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:40:39

    I have tested thick pbt keycaps with 2x3x4mm rectangular LEDs and they do not touch. I have heard that if you get the 3mm round LEDs, you have to file off the top.

    I can look around and see if I can find a tkl with clears for you.

    That'd be great Swill! Thanks! I was already looking around for a bit, but no luck. I guess they don't make a lot of them anymore. Also, LED's don't matter to me. Stock caps don't either because I can just replace them.

    Not backlit or TKL but a good option (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53405.msg1192044#msg1192044).  I LOVE my FC660C because of the layout.  Its awsome.

    Here is another good option if you want a TKL. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51380.msg1131063#msg1131063)

    And here is a KeyCool TKL with MX Clears (http://www.banggood.com/Keycool-87-White-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Clear-Switch-p-89115.html) as well.  Free shipping is always nice...

    I think thats what I got for you...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:35:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:51:36
    Edit:  question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

    Are you talking about drilling out the 3mm hole to 5mm, I tried this, it will not affect the switch, but your cap will bump into the LED.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:38:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 07:52:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:51:36
    Question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

    If you drill out the top half, wouldn't you be drilling into the leaf spring? The switch needs the leaf spring to work.

    The leaf spring is on the opposite side as the LED hole...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:51:37
    what the difference CCnG ducky & tsangan?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:38:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 07:52:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:51:36
    Question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

    If you drill out the top half, wouldn't you be drilling into the leaf spring? The switch needs the leaf spring to work.

    The leaf spring is on the opposite side as the LED hole...

    Isn't that what he's asking? To drill out the casing on the opposite side of the LED hole?

    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:51:37
    what the difference CCnG ducky & tsangan?

    What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:55:01
    I'm not totally sure if this is what you're asking, but these are the key sizes for both:

    Ducky Premier (CCnG) bottom row: 1.25 1.25 1.25 6.25 1.25 1.25 1.25 1.25
    Tsangan kit: 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:59:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.
    The colors ;D,i see ducky looks nice
    green&white look difference
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:00:42
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:51:37
    what the difference CCnG ducky & tsangan?

    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:59:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.
    The colors ;D,i see ducky looks nice
    green&white look difference

    You're asking if the Ducky Green and White caps are different from the CCnG set that was done by SP? Can you please restate what your question is?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:05:58
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:59:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.
    The colors ;D,i see ducky looks nice
    green&white look difference

    I think I know what you mean. Ducky has made a keycap set similar to CCnG:

    (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1556473_575782905830141_349744122_o.jpg)

    He wants to know the differences to the original GB that was run by Tsangan.

    The main difference is the manufacturer and the method to print the legends, Ducky's could be Tai Hao (that * looks familiar) and is dyesubbed PBT, the original was made by Signature Plastics and is doubleshot ABS. Also Ducky's CCnG has black legends while the original uses green and beige (cream-cheese) legends. Also I think Ducky uses plain white while CCnG uses an off-white/beige/cream-cheese color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:09:37
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:05:58
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:59:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.
    The colors ;D,i see ducky looks nice
    green&white look difference

    I think I know what you mean. Ducky has made a keycap set similar to CCnG:

    Show Image
    (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1556473_575782905830141_349744122_o.jpg)


    He wants to know the differences to the original GB that was run by Tsangan.

    The main difference is the manufacturer, Ducky's could be Tai Hao (that * looks familiar), the original was made by Signature Plastics. Also Ducky's CCnG has black legends while the original uses green and beige (cream-cheese) legends. Also I think Ducky uses plain white while CCnG uses an off-white/beige/cream-cheese color.

    Ducky's is supposed to be dyesub PBT, so it shouldn't be Tai Hao as the OEM.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:12:35
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:09:37
    Ducky's is supposed to be dyesub PBT, so it shouldn't be Tai Hao as the OEM.

    Yep, already edited my post, but maybe Tai Hao does dyseub as well? Idk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:13:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:38:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 07:52:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:51:36
    Question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

    If you drill out the top half, wouldn't you be drilling into the leaf spring? The switch needs the leaf spring to work.

    The leaf spring is on the opposite side as the LED hole...

    Isn't that what he's asking? To drill out the casing on the opposite side of the LED hole?

    Pretty sure he just wants to make the existing LED hole bigger....top and bottom.....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:15:43
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:05:58
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:59:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.
    The colors ;D,i see ducky looks nice
    green&white look difference

    I think I know what you mean. Ducky has made a keycap set similar to CCnG:

    Show Image
    (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1556473_575782905830141_349744122_o.jpg)


    He wants to know the differences to the original GB that was run by Tsangan.

    The main difference is the manufacturer and the method to print the legends, Ducky's could be Tai Hao (that * looks familiar) and is dyesubbed PBT, the original was made by Signature Plastics and is doubleshot ABS. Also Ducky's CCnG has black legends while the original uses green and beige (cream-cheese) legends. Also I think Ducky uses plain white while CCnG uses an off-white/beige/cream-cheese color.

    Just to support BlueBar's post:

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49524.0;attach=38516;image)
    CCnG Set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49524.0#post_CCNG)

    (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1556473_575782905830141_349744122_o.jpg)
    Ducky's White and Green

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:13:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:38:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 07:52:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:51:36
    Question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

    If you drill out the top half, wouldn't you be drilling into the leaf spring? The switch needs the leaf spring to work.

    The leaf spring is on the opposite side as the LED hole...

    Isn't that what he's asking? To drill out the casing on the opposite side of the LED hole?

    Pretty sure he just wants to make the existing LED hole bigger; top and bottom.

    Well let's see what Melvang says. I'm not exactly sure what he's referring to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:19:21
    which ducky green & white colors? :)
    (http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/pbtGreens.JPG)
    (http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/pbtWhites.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:20:44
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:19:21
    which ducky green & white colors? :)
    Show Image
    (http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/pbtGreens.JPG)

    Show Image
    (http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/pbtWhites.JPG)


    You can't really tell since Ducky isn't using SP colors. Do you want a guess?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:21:19
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:19:21
    which ducky green & white colors? :)
    Show Image
    (http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/pbtGreens.JPG)

    Show Image
    (http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/pbtWhites.JPG)


    Those are SP ABS color chips. The Ducky caps are PBT and probably not from SP. So it's hard to say for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:23:52
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:20:44
    You can't really tell since Ducky isn't using SP colors. Do you want a guess?
    yep,almost like ducky ;D
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:21:19
    Those are SP ABS color chips. The Ducky caps are PBT and probably not from SP. So it's hard to say for sure.
    that's pbt :D though abs SP have many variations colors than pbt
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:36:06
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:23:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:21:19
    Those are SP ABS color chips. The Ducky caps are PBT and probably not from SP. So it's hard to say for sure.
    that's pbt :D though abs SP have many variations colors than pbt

    Ah I missed that.

    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:23:52
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:20:44
    You can't really tell since Ducky isn't using SP colors. Do you want a guess?
    yep,almost like ducky ;D

    Closest Color Guess:

    Green = VCR
    White = WDG
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:51:57
    Hello,

    I'm new here so if I'm doing it wrong, let me know.

    I want to buy my first mechanical keyboard. So far I have two in mind : WASDKeyboard V2 TKL or Filco Majestouch-2 TKL. From what I've read, they are both good keyboards. But I still need to choose one.

    Pricewise, the filco will cost me 130€, and the WASD will be around 150€. (It includes delivery prices, which is 45$ for the WASD). So let's put aside price now. Which one is better in your opinion ? Lifespan, materials, or little details that will make one better than the other.

    For example, I know that filco keycaps is ABS, while the WASD uses PBT. So it is in the favour of the WASD. Is there other details like this one to know ?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:54:49

    Quote from: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:51:57
    Hello,

    I'm new here so if I'm doing it wrong, let me know.

    I want to buy my first mechanical keyboard. So far I have two in mind : WASDKeyboard V2 TKL or Filco Majestouch-2 TKL. From what I've read, they are both good keyboards. But I still need to choose one.

    Pricewise, the filco will cost me 130€, and the WASD will be around 150€. (It includes delivery prices, which is 45$ for the WASD). So let's put aside price now. Which one is better in your opinion ? Lifespan, materials, or little details that will make one better than the other.

    For example, I know that filco keycaps is ABS, while the WASD uses PBT. So it is in the favour of the WASD. Is there other details like this one to know ?

    Thanks

    Hard to beat Filcos build quality.  I don't know the quality of the WASD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:55:32
    I didn't think that WASD used PBT. Could someone else confirm/deny?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:57:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:15:43
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:05:58
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:59:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.
    The colors ;D,i see ducky looks nice
    green&white look difference

    I think I know what you mean. Ducky has made a keycap set similar to CCnG:

    Show Image
    (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1556473_575782905830141_349744122_o.jpg)


    He wants to know the differences to the original GB that was run by Tsangan.

    The main difference is the manufacturer and the method to print the legends, Ducky's could be Tai Hao (that * looks familiar) and is dyesubbed PBT, the original was made by Signature Plastics and is doubleshot ABS. Also Ducky's CCnG has black legends while the original uses green and beige (cream-cheese) legends. Also I think Ducky uses plain white while CCnG uses an off-white/beige/cream-cheese color.

    Just to support BlueBar's post:

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49524.0;attach=38516;image)

    CCnG Set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49524.0#post_CCNG)

    Show Image
    (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1556473_575782905830141_349744122_o.jpg)

    Ducky's White and Green

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:13:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:53:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:38:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 07:52:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:51:36
    Question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

    If you drill out the top half, wouldn't you be drilling into the leaf spring? The switch needs the leaf spring to work.

    The leaf spring is on the opposite side as the LED hole...

    Isn't that what he's asking? To drill out the casing on the opposite side of the LED hole?

    Pretty sure he just wants to make the existing LED hole bigger; top and bottom.

    Well let's see what Melvang says. I'm not exactly sure what he's referring to.

    I was wondering about drilling the led hole out bigger but going through the bottom half of the switch housing as well as the top half.  Was thinking of trying 5x5x2 rgb LEDs.  The question about the bottom half is for an idea of doing individual PCBs for each switch and doing a hand wired matrix for the switches and the LEDs with knobs on the case for adjusting the color manually.  Drilling the bottom half of the switch might be required depending on how it goes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:58:50
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:55:32
    I didn't think that WASD used PBT. Could someone else confirm/deny?

    Yes, WASD uses ABS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:59:06

    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:55:32
    I didn't think that WASD used PBT. Could someone else confirm/deny?

    Even if they do, if they are thin pbt, it's not a big upgrade.  You can buy medium thickness pbt caps from banggood for $20 shipped which are alright.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 10:02:43
    Quote from: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:51:57
    Hello,

    I'm new here so if I'm doing it wrong, let me know.

    I want to buy my first mechanical keyboard. So far I have two in mind : WASDKeyboard V2 TKL or Filco Majestouch-2 TKL. From what I've read, they are both good keyboards. But I still need to choose one.

    Pricewise, the filco will cost me 130€, and the WASD will be around 150€. (It includes delivery prices, which is 45$ for the WASD). So let's put aside price now. Which one is better in your opinion ? Lifespan, materials, or little details that will make one better than the other.

    For example, I know that filco keycaps is ABS, while the WASD uses PBT. So it is in the favour of the WASD. Is there other details like this one to know ?

    Thanks

    I'm a Filco fanboy, I own a Filco MJ2 Ninja 104. It's my daily driver at work and I've had it for about a year. I don't think I'll ever replace it/sell it. I think it's the best stock keyboard I've tried. Good case, good construction, and the switches feel nice in them. Filco is just a solid keyboard. I've heard that people who have had Browns on their Filcos didn't like them though.

    I've never owned a WASD but The_Beast was quite happy with his when I talked to him about it. WASD has a dipswitch that lets you have other layouts

    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:55:32
    I didn't think that WASD used PBT. Could someone else confirm/deny?

    Pretty sure WASD uses ABS. I've tried their sampler pack and it was really thin ABS. Not my favorite stock caps if those sampler kit caps are what goes on their keyboards. I do like the stock Filco caps. They're not *terrible*.

    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:57:53
    I was wondering about drilling the led hole out bigger but going through the bottom half of the switch housing as well as the top half.  Was thinking of trying 5x5x2 rgb LEDs.  The question about the bottom half is for an idea of doing individual PCBs for each switch and doing a hand wired matrix for the switches and the LEDs with knobs on the case for adjusting the color manually.  Drilling the bottom half of the switch might be required depending on how it goes.

    I don't think making the LED hole bigger will affect the switch operation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 10:56:13
    Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

    Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

    Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: damorgue on Wed, 15 January 2014, 11:05:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:18:00
    Quote from: kmiller8 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:16:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:15:44
    Is it possible to get 2x3x4 RGB LEDs?

    no

    3mm round rgb?

    Yes

    They are very rare though. I have only found them in handful of places and with MOQ of many thousand pcs unfortunately: Example (http://hanhualed.en.alibaba.com/product/465858205-209847191/3mm_super_bright_RGB_LED_DIODE.html?edm_src=sys&edm_type=fdbk&edm_grp=0&edm_cta=read_msg&edm_time=realtime&edm_ver=e)

    Edit: Also, they are cumbersome to use because of their pitch (distance between pins). They require very small pads around the holes and tight soldering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 11:16:06
    Quote from: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 10:56:13
    Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

    Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

    Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

    Different switches feel different in different keyboards. Apparently the construction on the Filco leads them to not feel well on the Filcos. I hate Browns in general so I can't comment on how they'd feel. I've never owned a keyboard with Browns. Missalaire sold her Filco saying they Browns felt odd on the Filco. So yes, it's just what friends have told me. I have Blues on mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 January 2014, 11:16:18
    Quote from: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 10:56:13
    Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

    Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

    Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

    Filco with Browns is a fine choice! Don't let anyone tell you differently. I own several Filcos!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 15 January 2014, 11:22:34
    Quote from: damorgue on Wed, 15 January 2014, 11:05:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:18:00
    Quote from: kmiller8 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:16:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:15:44
    Is it possible to get 2x3x4 RGB LEDs?

    no

    3mm round rgb?

    Yes

    They are very rare though. I have only found them in handful of places and with MOQ of many thousand pcs unfortunately: Example (http://hanhualed.en.alibaba.com/product/465858205-209847191/3mm_super_bright_RGB_LED_DIODE.html?edm_src=sys&edm_type=fdbk&edm_grp=0&edm_cta=read_msg&edm_time=realtime&edm_ver=e)

    Edit: Also, they are cumbersome to use because of their pitch (distance between pins). They require very small pads around the holes and tight soldering.

    Let me clarify then

    No*

    *Nothing available for your or I to buy from our local friendly digikey/mouser/newark

    I have looked into those before, and the few companies I contacted which had that exact image said "oh no, we don't make those"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 15 January 2014, 11:34:59
    Quote from: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 10:56:13
    Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

    Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

    Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

    Nothing wrong with them.  They are the same as all other browns (switch wise), but they are apparently soldered better than most PCBs.  I use a Filco TKL with Browns as my daily driver.  Great board...

    The only thing that is wrong with Filco w/ browns is that they have been very hard to find recently.  There have been a few threads on here asking "when will a filco tkl with browns be in stock" because there is limited availability in the US recently and they are sold out everywhere...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 15 January 2014, 12:10:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 11:16:06
    Quote from: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 10:56:13
    Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

    Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

    Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

    Different switches feel different in different keyboards. Apparently the construction on the Filco leads them to not feel well on the Filcos. I hate Browns in general so I can't comment on how they'd feel. I've never owned a keyboard with Browns. Missalaire sold her Filco saying they Browns felt odd on the Filco. So yes, it's just what friends have told me. I have Blues on mine.

    Thanks for the response on the led hole CPT.  I thought I was thinking right but wanted some confirmation.

    Have you tried lubed browns?  I think that is what cherry was looking for in that switch.  Stock browns to me are kinda meh, but lubed browns feel nice with lighter caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 12:14:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 15 January 2014, 12:10:09
    Have you tried lubed browns?  I think that is what cherry was looking for in that switch.  Stock browns to me are kinda meh, but lubed browns feel nice with lighter caps.

    No, I've pretty much given up on Browns and Reds. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 12:16:22
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 January 2014, 11:16:18
    Quote from: qrthur on Wed, 15 January 2014, 10:56:13
    Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

    Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

    Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

    Filco with Browns is a fine choice! Don't let anyone tell you differently. I own several Filcos!!

    Allright then it is a deal ! Thanks guys for helping me be sure of my choice (and this choice spared me 1+ month or waiting the delivery and 30~€)

    See you around
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhineasRex on Wed, 15 January 2014, 13:13:28
    Is there any place I can buy wooden keycaps? I see that mechanicalkeyboards sells a single Row 1 poplar key, but I would need the other rows too. Thanks for your answers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 15 January 2014, 14:46:08
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Wed, 15 January 2014, 13:13:28
    Is there any place I can buy wooden keycaps? I see that mechanicalkeyboards sells a single Row 1 poplar key, but I would need the other rows too. Thanks for your answers!

    Some people have made them, but not recently. There was some problem with them that I can't remember.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 14:48:54
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Wed, 15 January 2014, 13:13:28
    Is there any place I can buy wooden keycaps? I see that mechanicalkeyboards sells a single Row 1 poplar key, but I would need the other rows too. Thanks for your answers!

    Think MechanicalKeyboards.com is the only current retail place you can get it. Nubbinator has made one as far as I can remember. You could try asking The_Beast as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:10:54
    Hey guys, quick question:

    Somewhere in the GH60 thread it was recommended to use PCB mounted switches even if you ordered a plate because it would be even more sturdy.

    Can you use PCB mounted switches with every plate without breaking off the pins or is this a feature of the GH60?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:12:48
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:10:54
    Hey guys, quick question:

    Somewhere in the GH60 thread it was recommended to use PCB mounted switches even if you ordered a plate because it would be even more sturdy.

    Can you use PCB mounted switches with every plate without breaking off the pins or is this a feature of the GH60?

    PCB mounted switches only have to be broken off if the PCB doesn't have the PCB-mount holes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:13:50
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:10:54
    Hey guys, quick question:

    Somewhere in the GH60 thread it was recommended to use PCB mounted switches even if you ordered a plate because it would be even more sturdy.

    Can you use PCB mounted switches with every plate without breaking off the pins or is this a feature of the GH60?

    Think it's more of a question of the PCB. PCB mounted switches will fit in the plates fine. It's whether or not the PCB has holes to accept the legs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:25:49
    Thanks for the fast replies!

    Well, I guess in this case I will order PCB mounted switches to be prepared for everything. In the worst case I'd have to break off the pins which shouldn't be too much of a hustle :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:27:49
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:25:49
    Thanks for the fast replies!

    Well, I guess in this case I will order PCB mounted switches to be prepared for everything. In the worst case I'd have to break off the pins which shouldn't be too much of a hustle :)

    That's usually my thinking as well. Rather have the extra pins and clip them off rather than potentially have a wobbly switch. (Not saying plate mounted will be wobbly, but extra stability/overkill is good.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 16 January 2014, 01:02:27
    Actually colors keycap on hhkb white is white on blue or grey? :)
    i see blues sky though on EK written gray :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 16 January 2014, 03:08:11
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 03 January 2014, 18:17:24
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:50:26
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:47:27
    Ducky has the yellow keyboard, not Leopold.
    I thik leopold fc700R release yellow version,soon :))

    Link?

    A yellow FC660[C|M] would be nice :)
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 16 January 2014, 03:44:44
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 16 January 2014, 03:08:11
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 03 January 2014, 18:17:24
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:50:26
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 03 January 2014, 11:47:27
    Ducky has the yellow keyboard, not Leopold.
    I thik leopold fc700R release yellow version,soon :))

    Link?

    A yellow FC660[C|M] would be nice :)
    (Attachment Link)

    Nice - reminiscent of the yellow Filco!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 January 2014, 08:15:11
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 16 January 2014, 01:02:27
    Actually colors keycap on hhkb white is white on blue or grey? :)
    i see blues sky though on EK written gray :)

    (http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/pdkb400w_corner1000_th620x400.jpg)
    From EK (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400w)

    Looks like dark grey/black on grey for the mods and dark grey/black on white for the alphas.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gameaholic on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:47:18
    What is the difference between KMAC and KMAC LE?  How do I program my KMAC to shut off the LEDs?  Can I ask a machine shop to anodize any aluminum case to get the titanium color on the KMAC?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:49:11
    Quote from: gameaholic on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:47:18
    1) What is the difference between KMAC and KMAC LE?
    2) How do I program my KMAC to shut off the LEDs? 
    3) Can I ask a machine shop to anodize any aluminum case to get the titanium color on the KMAC?

    1) Anodization finish
    2) I'm not 100% sure but you can check these threads:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.0
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30875.0
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0
    3) Yes. The shop might not be able to do the anodization there, but they should know of a shop that can do the anodization for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:55:56
    Quote from: gameaholic on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:47:18
    What is the difference between KMAC and KMAC LE?  How do I program my KMAC to shut off the LEDs?  Can I ask a machine shop to anodize any aluminum case to get the titanium color on the KMAC?

    KMAC LE had the bottom and top parts of the case anodyzed a (very slightly) different colour and was sold as a slight discount, I believe. It also says "KMAC LE" on the PCB.

    LED functionality is controlled with a key command available in the programming GUI. I mapped mine to fn+esc. Pressing it turns the different LED "groups" on and off. (esc, functions, wasd cluster, all on, all off I think)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nzhao20 on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:26:27
    http://i.imgur.com/6slkxKz.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/UpLtfkj.jpg
    Anyone know whether there are replacement controllers that would fit this keyboard (fc660c)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 16 January 2014, 19:43:45
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:26:27
    http://i.imgur.com/6slkxKz.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/UpLtfkj.jpg
    Anyone know whether there are replacement controllers that would fit this keyboard (fc660c)?

    Not yet. The closes is the replacement HHKB controller that hasu has made
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 January 2014, 19:51:46
    Quote from: nzhao20 on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:26:27
    http://i.imgur.com/6slkxKz.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/UpLtfkj.jpg
    Anyone know whether there are replacement controllers that would fit this keyboard (fc660c)?

    Just in case you didn't know, you can use the code below to show your pictures off next time:

    Code: [Select]
    [img]http://i.imgur.com/6slkxKz.jpg[/img]
    [img]http://i.imgur.com/UpLtfkj.jpg[/img]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Thu, 16 January 2014, 21:12:09
    I'm searching for a guy to cut cases for ergodox here in Brazil, and he asked me if I had the measurements of each of the pieces from Litster's design I got from the CAD thread.

    Can someone help me or the files are in 'real size'?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 16 January 2014, 21:17:04
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 16 January 2014, 21:12:09
    I'm searching for a guy to cut cases for ergodox here in Brazil, and he asked me if I had the measurements of each of the pieces from Litster's design I got from the CAD thread.

    Can someone help me or the files are in 'real size'?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744
    i hope helps :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Thu, 16 January 2014, 21:19:04
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 16 January 2014, 21:17:04
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 16 January 2014, 21:12:09
    I'm searching for a guy to cut cases for ergodox here in Brazil, and he asked me if I had the measurements of each of the pieces from Litster's design I got from the CAD thread.

    Can someone help me or the files are in 'real size'?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744
    i hope helps :)

    I got the file from there, but it seems they have no measurements :'(

    I don't understand a thing about CAD, though, maybe I'm wrong XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KaLam1ty on Thu, 16 January 2014, 23:00:07
    In the Pitched Black GB, I asked why people thought Cherry Profile was better than OEM.
    From what I've gathered, people tend to like the typing experience on it more.

    Any specifics for those who have Cherry and why they like it more as well? I'm trying to convince myself of
    whether or not I should give a try at a set before dropping $50. 'would like to know everything that is
    "oh so great" about Cherry :thumb:.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 17 January 2014, 00:11:56
    where do people make out picture of keycaps for picture? is there program of doing it, or people just make it by photoshop?
    like these few picture
    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/files/Handarbeit_87_ce0747fa-7ab5-4992-9bd5-76f6a7c2f357_large.png%3F1360)
    (http://i.imgur.com/7EJTaIZ.png)
    (pic from google, pretty sure the first one is from originative, not sure about the second one)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 17 January 2014, 00:29:00
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 17 January 2014, 00:11:56
    where do people make out picture of keycaps for picture? is there program of doing it, or people just make it by photoshop?
    like these few picture
    Show Image
    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/files/Handarbeit_87_ce0747fa-7ab5-4992-9bd5-76f6a7c2f357_large.png%3F1360)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/7EJTaIZ.png)

    (pic from google, pretty sure the first one is from originative, not sure about the second one)

    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 17 January 2014, 02:33:57
    Also: http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#YBP,NN,NN,YBP
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 17 January 2014, 02:35:06
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 17 January 2014, 00:11:56
    Show Image
    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/files/Handarbeit_87_ce0747fa-7ab5-4992-9bd5-76f6a7c2f357_large.png%3F1360)

    This one is from Originative. It's a mockup made by GMK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 17 January 2014, 03:41:17
    Quote from: lcs on Thu, 16 January 2014, 21:19:04
    I got the file from there, but it seems they have no measurements :'(

    I don't understand a thing about CAD, though, maybe I'm wrong XD

    How do you mean they have no measurements? The unit is mm I think.

    Quote from: KaLam1ty on Thu, 16 January 2014, 23:00:07
    Any specifics for those who have Cherry and why they like it more as well? I'm trying to convince myself of
    whether or not I should give a try at a set before dropping $50. 'would like to know everything that is
    "oh so great" about Cherry :thumb:.

    You are kind of asking for opinions, and I don't think this is the thread for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 17 January 2014, 04:42:46
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 January 2014, 03:41:17

    How do you mean they have no measurements? The unit is mm I think.


    I have no idea XD The guy is asking me for the thickness and the length of each part and I have no idea what to say XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 17 January 2014, 04:49:08
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 17 January 2014, 04:42:46
    I have no idea XD The guy is asking me for the thickness and the length of each part and I have no idea what to say XD

    Tell him the measurements are in the file. You can open one of he files with a program like QCad yourself and use the measuring tool, you will see that it has measurements. I don't know what else to say :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 17 January 2014, 04:49:51
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 January 2014, 04:49:08
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 17 January 2014, 04:42:46
    I have no idea XD The guy is asking me for the thickness and the length of each part and I have no idea what to say XD

    Tell him the measurements are in the file. You can open one of he files with a program like QCad yourself and use the measuring tool, you will see that it has measurements. I don't know what else to say :))

    OK :) Thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Fri, 17 January 2014, 05:00:11
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 17 January 2014, 04:42:46
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 January 2014, 03:41:17

    How do you mean they have no measurements? The unit is mm I think.


    I have no idea XD The guy is asking me for the thickness and the length of each part and I have no idea what to say XD

    The measurements are in mm.

    He might be confused about the thickness of the material you want to use, as those aren't specified in the file.
    The thickness of the layers required would be 3mm for top and bottom layers, and 4.5mm for the middle three layers, or in inches:

    1/8"
    3/16"
    3/16" <--- mounting plate
    3/16"
    1/8"

    keep in mind that most acrylic sheets being sold has a +/- 10% variance, so you could get away with a slight difference sometimes depending on where you get your plates cut.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: damorgue on Fri, 17 January 2014, 05:08:33
    Quote from: KaLam1ty on Thu, 16 January 2014, 23:00:07
    In the Pitched Black GB, I asked why people thought Cherry Profile was better than OEM.
    From what I've gathered, people tend to like the typing experience on it more.

    Any specifics for those who have Cherry and why they like it more as well? I'm trying to convince myself of
    whether or not I should give a try at a set before dropping $50. 'would like to know everything that is
    "oh so great" about Cherry :thumb:.

    Cherry profile has a far more advanced and thought out shape. The radii of the edges isn't constant, and approaches zero at the sharp bottom corners. Unlike DCS, there is not flat edge at the bottom which breaks of the surface. This makes them look more exact and they line up more perfectly as squares. DCS looks a bit thrown together and don't really fit together as they have a large radii at the bottom. There are also far more prominent spruce marks on DCS profile keys.  Cherry profile is also often associated with Cherry font which a majority appears to find more visually appealing. I don't even care about feel, I simply find them to be a lot more visually appealing over all. All of these reasons also apply in the comparison with OEM profile. In addition, OEM just looks tall and wobbly imo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 17 January 2014, 05:09:42
    Quote from: Larken on Fri, 17 January 2014, 05:00:11
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 17 January 2014, 04:42:46
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 January 2014, 03:41:17

    How do you mean they have no measurements? The unit is mm I think.


    I have no idea XD The guy is asking me for the thickness and the length of each part and I have no idea what to say XD

    The measurements are in mm.

    He might be confused about the thickness of the material you want to use, as those aren't specified in the file.
    The thickness of the layers required would be 3mm for top and bottom layers, and 4.5mm for the middle three layers, or in inches:

    1/8"
    3/16"
    3/16" <--- mounting plate
    3/16"
    1/8"

    keep in mind that most acrylic sheets being sold has a +/- 10% variance, so you could get away with a slight difference sometimes depending on where you get your plates cut.

    Thank you so much! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 January 2014, 08:36:55
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 17 January 2014, 00:11:56
    where do people make out picture of keycaps for picture? is there program of doing it, or people just make it by photoshop?
    like these few picture
    Show Image
    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/files/Handarbeit_87_ce0747fa-7ab5-4992-9bd5-76f6a7c2f357_large.png%3F1360)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/7EJTaIZ.png)

    (pic from google, pretty sure the first one is from originative, not sure about the second one)


    Answer is in the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_EE).

    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 January 2014, 03:41:17
    Quote from: KaLam1ty on Thu, 16 January 2014, 23:00:07
    Any specifics for those who have Cherry and why they like it more as well? I'm trying to convince myself of
    whether or not I should give a try at a set before dropping $50. 'would like to know everything that is
    "oh so great" about Cherry :thumb:.

    You are kind of asking for opinions, and I don't think this is the thread for it.

    Personal preference. I think the profile fits my hands nicer. If you're not sure, go find a cheap G81-XXXX keyboard for about $20-30 on ebay and harvest the caps to try. Like BlueBar said, it's an opinion whether or not it's for you. No one here will be able to tell you what you like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gameaholic on Fri, 17 January 2014, 21:39:05
    With the MOQ for GMK down to 250 I am considering running my first group buy.  Is there a guide on how to do a group buy?  Who would be the best people in the community to show me how to do it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 January 2014, 22:36:01
    Quote from: gameaholic on Fri, 17 January 2014, 21:39:05
    With the MOQ for GMK down to 250 I am considering running my first group buy.  Is there a guide on how to do a group buy?  Who would be the best people in the community to show me how to do it?

    No there's no guide. You should look through the GB's section to see which GB runner you like the most and talk to them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 17 January 2014, 22:37:19
    Quote from: gameaholic on Fri, 17 January 2014, 21:39:05
    With the MOQ for GMK down to 250 I am considering running my first group buy.  Is there a guide on how to do a group buy?  Who would be the best people in the community to show me how to do it?
    I think you should talk to Ivan if you plan on doing a GB with GMK..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 January 2014, 22:38:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:08:32
    A question for an issue I'm having. I have an MY1800 case that I'm trying to use as a case for a Leeku 1800 PCB.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/al9wIb6.jpg)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/WQ6CWTz.jpg)


    There are those posts and they seem to be molded to the top and bottom of the case. Is the case really not able to be taken apart? Or am I missing something? Proper model number is G81-1800LUMUS-2/03.

    (http://i.imgur.com/4T9cJTC.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/5NF9Bhz.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/O5u5Qbf.jpg)

    More pictures.

    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 17 January 2014, 22:37:19
    Quote from: gameaholic on Fri, 17 January 2014, 21:39:05
    With the MOQ for GMK down to 250 I am considering running my first group buy.  Is there a guide on how to do a group buy?  Who would be the best people in the community to show me how to do it?
    I think you should talk to Ivan if you plan on doing a GB with GMK..

    He's not the only person who has contact with GMK though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Fri, 17 January 2014, 23:53:17
    can AHK detect right shift separately from left shift?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 17 January 2014, 23:54:23
    I don't think so since they send the same scan code to my knowledge but I could be wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Sat, 18 January 2014, 01:21:25
    I use sharpkeys and it can detect right-shift separately (although maybe not on my macbook)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 18 January 2014, 04:22:36
    Are the holes in the plate for the switches in the CAD files I found somewhere here are the kind of holes that you can open a switch without desoldering? If not does anyone have a CAD file with those kind of holes, maybe a tkl plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 18 January 2014, 04:47:06
    Quote from: Candyflip on Sat, 18 January 2014, 04:22:36
    Are the holes in the plate for the switches in the CAD files I found somewhere here are the kind of holes that you can open a switch without desoldering? If not does anyone have a CAD file with those kind of holes, maybe a tkl plate?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 18 January 2014, 05:47:39
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 18 January 2014, 04:47:06
    Quote from: Candyflip on Sat, 18 January 2014, 04:22:36
    Are the holes in the plate for the switches in the CAD files I found somewhere here are the kind of holes that you can open a switch without desoldering? If not does anyone have a CAD file with those kind of holes, maybe a tkl plate?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744
    I know that thread, care to read my question please.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 18 January 2014, 05:55:28
    you mean square holes like matt3o plate/permanet plate holes :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 18 January 2014, 05:58:02
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 18 January 2014, 05:55:28
    you mean square holes like matt3o plate/permanet plate holes :)
    I don't know his plate, but I was thinking more of like WFD and The_Beast plate that was in GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 18 January 2014, 06:12:31
    Quote from: Candyflip on Sat, 18 January 2014, 05:58:02
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 18 January 2014, 05:55:28
    you mean square holes like matt3o plate/permanet plate holes :)
    I don't know his plate, but I was thinking more of like WFD and The_Beast plate that was in GB.
    WFD plate can open switch,matt3o is permanet(just square shapes) in MOZ CAD Thread,many plates like WFD plate :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 18 January 2014, 06:34:35
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 18 January 2014, 06:12:31
    Quote from: Candyflip on Sat, 18 January 2014, 05:58:02
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 18 January 2014, 05:55:28
    you mean square holes like matt3o plate/permanet plate holes :)
    I don't know his plate, but I was thinking more of like WFD and The_Beast plate that was in GB.
    WFD plate can open switch,matt3o is permanet(just square shapes) in MOZ CAD Thread,many plates like WFD plate :rolleyes:
    Yea that was my initial question if the MOZ CAD thread contained that kind of plates, thanks! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:14:32
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:41:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:31:20

    And I don't have POM :(. Wait, this board had POM caps??

    Most likely. Lasered black cherry kbs almost always sue POM.

    I'm looking to replace the Cherry PBT caps on my Epsilon with Cherry Doubleshot ABS or POM. I *think* these boards (http://www.ebay.com/itm/G81-1800LUMUS-2-Cherry-Model-MY-1800-USB-Black-Keyboard-/390613126560?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5af25b4da0) have POM on them but I'm not sure. As far as I know, the Black Lasered Cherry Keyboards have POM as quoted by dorkvader and in the DT wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps). The beige sets are lasered PBT like the set I have now. Can someone verify this for me?

    Edit: Asked around and it seems like the response is "90% sure it's POM." Since the board was so cheap, I picked it up and we'll find out for sure when I get it in hand.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:28:51
    Anyone have a stock Filco spacebar as well as a keyboard with Cherry stabilizers?  If so, could that person/people please try the Filco spacebar on the Cherry stabilized keyboard and tell me if there are any fit / movement-restricting issues?  If yes, then do you perhaps have an EK universal black spacebar to try the same thing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:34:48
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:28:51
    Anyone have a stock Filco spacebar as well as a keyboard with Cherry stabilizers?  If so, could that person/people please try the Filco spacebar on the Cherry stabilized keyboard and tell me if there are any fit / movement-restricting issues?  If yes, then do you perhaps have an EK universal black spacebar to try the same thing?

    Don't have an EK universal but I do have a stock Filco Ninja spacebar and a GMK spacebar to compare. I don't have any fit or movement issues. Tested on my Pure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:37:16
    Could you test on a KMAC, if that one has Cherry stabilizers?  I don't have this issue with my other spacebars--only the Filco one.  Trying to figure out if it's my particular spacebar.  Thanks very much!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:42:25
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:37:16
    Could you test on a KMAC, if that one has Cherry stabilizers?  I don't have this issue with my other spacebars--only the Filco one.  Trying to figure out if it's my particular spacebar.  Thanks very much!

    Yes, my KMAC has clipped Cherry PCB stabilizers. With the stock Filco spacebar, I have no fitment issues on this board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:43:57
    Thank you.  I guess it's something with my spacebar version then.  I have zero issues with my other spacebars, but this one's clearly having trouble on both of my Cherry-stabilized keyboards :(   Ducky Shine spacebar, 2 DSA spacebars, and a thin PBT spacebar from KBC are all perfect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 18 January 2014, 22:40:38
    Why do cherry mx blue stems have little dots or points on the top of them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:09:52
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 18 January 2014, 22:40:38
    Why do cherry mx blue stems have little dots or points on the top of them?

    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/9/98/Cherry_MX_Blue.jpg/799px-Cherry_MX_Blue.jpg)
    (Picture from DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Cherry_MX_Blue.jpg))

    It's a sprue mark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injection_molding#Mold_design) from the injection molding process. Upon a quick inspection from the DT Wiki pictures, it seems like some of the switches (MX White, Green, Blue) have the sprue mark in the top part of the stem. Others have it in the side of the stem (MX Reds, Browns)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:56:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:09:52
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 18 January 2014, 22:40:38
    Why do cherry mx blue stems have little dots or points on the top of them?

    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/9/98/Cherry_MX_Blue.jpg/799px-Cherry_MX_Blue.jpg)

    (Picture from DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Cherry_MX_Blue.jpg))

    It's a sprue mark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injection_molding#Mold_design) from the injection molding process. Upon a quick inspection from the DT Wiki pictures, it seems like some of the switches (MX White, Green, Blue) have the sprue mark in the top part of the stem. Others have it in the side of the stem (MX Reds, Browns)

    I thought the plastic nub on the side meant the switch was audible & clicky...

    And everything else that doesn't click has the notch on the stem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 00:24:59
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:56:49
    I thought the plastic nub on the side meant the switch was audible & clicky...

    And everything else that doesn't click has the notch on the stem.

    I agree and how they accomplish making that is probably with the sprues and sprue marks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 19 January 2014, 03:13:20
    Thick plate is usually 1,5mm
    how if i uses 2mm i want more solid? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 07:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 00:24:59
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:56:49
    I thought the plastic nub on the side meant the switch was audible & clicky...

    And everything else that doesn't click has the notch on the stem.

    I agree and how they accomplish making that is probably with the sprues and sprue marks.
    I don't believe they are sprue marks but are a stem identification besides the color. All the cherry switches that I have also have notches (linear + tactile) and only the tactile clicky have both stem notches and a nub. I have Cherry MX blue,brown,red,black new & vintage, grey and clear. These differences can be seen here http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4 in Ripsters stem guide.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 19 January 2014, 07:48:16
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 19 January 2014, 03:13:20
    Thick plate is usually 1,5mm
    how if i uses 2mm i want more solid? :)

    While it will work but you may have to glue the switches into the plate because the plate will be to thick for the switch to grab the bottom side.  If you want a thicker plate to make it more solid I would just layer 2 plates.  The holes in the bottom plate will need to be slightly larger though from the top to the bottom of the switch and for all plate mount stabilizers as well.  Then just screw them together.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:13:48
    The keyboard I'm using doesn't have a windows key, does anyone know of an alternative keyboard shortcut (to windows key + L) for locking windows?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:41:22
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:13:48
    The keyboard I'm using doesn't have a windows key, does anyone know of an alternative keyboard shortcut (to windows key + L) for locking windows?

    You can probably use autohotkey to bind a function key to windows key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:02:09
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:13:48
    The keyboard I'm using doesn't have a windows key, does anyone know of an alternative keyboard shortcut (to windows key + L) for locking windows?

    Ctrl + Alt + Delete then click Lock Windows?

    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 07:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 00:24:59
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:56:49
    I thought the plastic nub on the side meant the switch was audible & clicky...

    And everything else that doesn't click has the notch on the stem.

    I agree and how they accomplish making that is probably with the sprues and sprue marks.
    I don't believe they are sprue marks but are a stem identification besides the color. All the cherry switches that I have also have notches (linear + tactile) and only the tactile clicky have both stem notches and a nub. I have Cherry MX blue,brown,red,black new & vintage, grey and clear. These differences can be seen here http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4 in Ripsters stem guide.

    Think you're missing the point I'm trying to make. Yes I agree that the nubs and notches are another form of identification. I'm saying that the nub is made from a sprue mark.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:45:28
    Your probably right about that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:46:03

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:02:09
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:13:48
    The keyboard I'm using doesn't have a windows key, does anyone know of an alternative keyboard shortcut (to windows key + L) for locking windows?

    Ctrl + Alt + Delete then click Lock Windows?

    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 07:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 00:24:59
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:56:49
    I thought the plastic nub on the side meant the switch was audible & clicky...

    And everything else that doesn't click has the notch on the stem.

    I agree and how they accomplish making that is probably with the sprues and sprue marks.
    I don't believe they are sprue marks but are a stem identification besides the color. All the cherry switches that I have also have notches (linear + tactile) and only the tactile clicky have both stem notches and a nub. I have Cherry MX blue,brown,red,black new & vintage, grey and clear. These differences can be seen here http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4 in Ripsters stem guide.

    Think you're missing the point I'm trying to make. Yes I agree that the nubs and notches are another form of identification. I'm saying that the nub is made from a sprue mark.

    But then wouldn't even non-clicky switches have some kind of sprue mark in that location??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 16:29:15
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:46:03

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:02:09
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:13:48
    The keyboard I'm using doesn't have a windows key, does anyone know of an alternative keyboard shortcut (to windows key + L) for locking windows?

    Ctrl + Alt + Delete then click Lock Windows?

    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 07:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 00:24:59
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:56:49
    I thought the plastic nub on the side meant the switch was audible & clicky...

    And everything else that doesn't click has the notch on the stem.

    I agree and how they accomplish making that is probably with the sprues and sprue marks.
    I don't believe they are sprue marks but are a stem identification besides the color. All the cherry switches that I have also have notches (linear + tactile) and only the tactile clicky have both stem notches and a nub. I have Cherry MX blue,brown,red,black new & vintage, grey and clear. These differences can be seen here http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4 in Ripsters stem guide.

    Think you're missing the point I'm trying to make. Yes I agree that the nubs and notches are another form of identification. I'm saying that the nub is made from a sprue mark.

    But then wouldn't even non-clicky switches have some kind of sprue mark in that location??
    I don't see anything similar anywhere on this mx brown switch I have sitting here.

    Also, this might not be the perfect place to ask this, but where is the best/cheapest place to get vintage black switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 19 January 2014, 17:00:07
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 16:29:15
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:46:03

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:02:09
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:13:48
    The keyboard I'm using doesn't have a windows key, does anyone know of an alternative keyboard shortcut (to windows key + L) for locking windows?

    Ctrl + Alt + Delete then click Lock Windows?

    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 07:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 00:24:59
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:56:49
    I thought the plastic nub on the side meant the switch was audible & clicky...

    And everything else that doesn't click has the notch on the stem.

    I agree and how they accomplish making that is probably with the sprues and sprue marks.
    I don't believe they are sprue marks but are a stem identification besides the color. All the cherry switches that I have also have notches (linear + tactile) and only the tactile clicky have both stem notches and a nub. I have Cherry MX blue,brown,red,black new & vintage, grey and clear. These differences can be seen here http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4 in Ripsters stem guide.

    Think you're missing the point I'm trying to make. Yes I agree that the nubs and notches are another form of identification. I'm saying that the nub is made from a sprue mark.

    But then wouldn't even non-clicky switches have some kind of sprue mark in that location??
    I don't see anything similar anywhere on this mx brown switch I have sitting here.

    Also, this might not be the perfect place to ask this, but where is the best/cheapest place to get vintage black switches?

    They come up in the classifieds for cheap fairly often.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 19 January 2014, 17:01:53
    How possible is it to get 2X right shifts?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 19 January 2014, 18:42:03
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 16:29:15
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:46:03

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:02:09
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:13:48
    The keyboard I'm using doesn't have a windows key, does anyone know of an alternative keyboard shortcut (to windows key + L) for locking windows?

    Ctrl + Alt + Delete then click Lock Windows?

    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 07:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 00:24:59
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:56:49
    I thought the plastic nub on the side meant the switch was audible & clicky...

    And everything else that doesn't click has the notch on the stem.

    I agree and how they accomplish making that is probably with the sprues and sprue marks.
    I don't believe they are sprue marks but are a stem identification besides the color. All the cherry switches that I have also have notches (linear + tactile) and only the tactile clicky have both stem notches and a nub. I have Cherry MX blue,brown,red,black new & vintage, grey and clear. These differences can be seen here http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4 in Ripsters stem guide.

    Think you're missing the point I'm trying to make. Yes I agree that the nubs and notches are another form of identification. I'm saying that the nub is made from a sprue mark.

    But then wouldn't even non-clicky switches have some kind of sprue mark in that location??
    I don't see anything similar anywhere on this mx brown switch I have sitting here.

    Also, this might not be the perfect place to ask this, but where is the best/cheapest place to get vintage black switches?

    The cheapest way I have found to get cheap blacks is from e-recycling shops.  I have got 3 WYSE boards for a total of $9.  Two of there were vintage and not sure on the third.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 18:50:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 19 January 2014, 18:42:03
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 16:29:15
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:46:03

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:02:09
    Quote from: McWilloughby on Sun, 19 January 2014, 13:13:48
    The keyboard I'm using doesn't have a windows key, does anyone know of an alternative keyboard shortcut (to windows key + L) for locking windows?

    Ctrl + Alt + Delete then click Lock Windows?

    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 07:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 00:24:59
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 18 January 2014, 23:56:49
    I thought the plastic nub on the side meant the switch was audible & clicky...

    And everything else that doesn't click has the notch on the stem.

    I agree and how they accomplish making that is probably with the sprues and sprue marks.
    I don't believe they are sprue marks but are a stem identification besides the color. All the cherry switches that I have also have notches (linear + tactile) and only the tactile clicky have both stem notches and a nub. I have Cherry MX blue,brown,red,black new & vintage, grey and clear. These differences can be seen here http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4 in Ripsters stem guide.

    Think you're missing the point I'm trying to make. Yes I agree that the nubs and notches are another form of identification. I'm saying that the nub is made from a sprue mark.

    But then wouldn't even non-clicky switches have some kind of sprue mark in that location??
    I don't see anything similar anywhere on this mx brown switch I have sitting here.

    Also, this might not be the perfect place to ask this, but where is the best/cheapest place to get vintage black switches?

    The cheapest way I have found to get cheap blacks is from e-recycling shops.  I have got 3 WYSE boards for a total of $9.  Two of there were vintage and not sure on the third.
    Sounds good, I would ideally like to find a keyboard with vintage blacks and either dyesub or doubleshot keycaps I could throw on my poker or something. I will keep my eyes out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 January 2014, 10:30:05
    So I have this terminal board that I want to eliminate the PCB and hand wire the matrix for a practice exercise for when I get to my full custom build and have a couple questions.

    1.  Some of the holes in the plate are loose enough that they switches almost fall out just flipping the board over.  About a third of them came out with the cap.  This is after desoldering the switches though.  Do you guys think I could just put a bit of fingernail polish on the edges of the hole to tighten them up?  I don't want to glue them in as I want to be able to swap the stems and springs in it at a later date.

    2.  The space bar is PCB mount cherry.  These don't feel that bad since there isn't the extra foot on the bottom to hit the pcb.  Do you guys think I could just cut the bottom row off the PCB and cut the traces and just solder the wires to the trace so I can keep full diodes?  Also another reason I was wanting to do this is so I don't have to make a PCB just for the bottom row.

    I know I could just use Soarers firm ware and wire the teensy in that way but I want to do the hand wired matrix for practice since this is going to be how my Brushed Behemoth is going to be built. 

    Comments questions or suggestions are all helpful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 January 2014, 10:32:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 20 January 2014, 10:30:05
    So I have this terminal board that I want to eliminate the PCB and hand wire the matrix for a practice exercise for when I get to my full custom build and have a couple questions.

    1.  Some of the holes in the plate are loose enough that they switches almost fall out just flipping the board over.  About a third of them came out with the cap.  This is after desoldering the switches though.  Do you guys think I could just put a bit of fingernail polish on the edges of the hole to tighten them up?  I don't want to glue them in as I want to be able to swap the stems and springs in it at a later date.

    2.  The space bar is PCB mount cherry.  These don't feel that bad since there isn't the extra foot on the bottom to hit the pcb.  Do you guys think I could just cut the bottom row off the PCB and cut the traces and just solder the wires to the trace so I can keep full diodes?  Also another reason I was wanting to do this is so I don't have to make a PCB just for the bottom row.

    I know I could just use Soarers firm ware and wire the teensy in that way but I want to do the hand wired matrix for practice since this is going to be how my Brushed Behemoth is going to be built. 

    Comments questions or suggestions are all helpful.

    What about hot glue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 20 January 2014, 10:35:52
    Yeah, I think hot glue to keep the switches in place.

    And it sounds like you will need to use the bottom row of the PCB so you can keep that stabilizer. You can either wire to the traces, or simply wire to the switch pins as you are doing with the rest of the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 January 2014, 11:05:05
    Cool thanks guys.  I don't think I need to add that much to the holes.  I probably only need .015 inch at the most.  I was going to try a couple with a bit of electrical tape at the top and bottom edges of the hole and see how that felt.  I did want something a little more permanent than that though.  Was thinking of just trying the tape to gauge how much I need to add.  Or were you guys thinking of just hot gluing the switches in place?  How well does that remove for future stem/spring swaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:18:01
    Where can I find a good picture of a green keycap from wasdkeyboards? I don't want the ones from their website, they are pretty bad from my experience ordering from them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:29:58
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:18:01
    Where can I find a good picture of a green keycap from wasdkeyboards? I don't want the ones from their website, they are pretty bad from my experience ordering from them.

    I think you can try to visit their facebook :

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=537230012982673&set=a.537229842982690.1073741825.209777592394585&type=3&theater

    I had one picture but the green keycaps are not clear enough:
    (http://i.imgur.com/uNP3anF.jpg#22544018357535667597)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:38:59
    Might seem like a random question, but I'll ask anyways.

    How are keycaps automatically placed onto keyboards in commercially mass produced factories?

    I would think keyboards with Cherry MX stabs would be easy, but how would the machines get it on Costar stabs? Since it requires a 3 step process to get a costar stabilized key on....or are they placed on manually? :eek:

    Another question just popped in my mind. How about the O-rings that Logitech uses? How would they align the orings to automate the process :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:41:15
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:29:58
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:18:01
    Where can I find a good picture of a green keycap from wasdkeyboards? I don't want the ones from their website, they are pretty bad from my experience ordering from them.

    I think you can try to visit their facebook :

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=537230012982673&set=a.537229842982690.1073741825.209777592394585&type=3&theater

    I had one picture but the green keycaps are not clear enough:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/uNP3anF.jpg#22544018357535667597)

    Thanks, I am thinking we might just need to order a single green cap from them. I just don't trust their pics, all their colors seem oversaturated and edited on their website. Their dark grey is so much lighter than their website pictures would make you think, especially the ones of user made keyboards like what you just linked.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:52:44
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:41:15
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:29:58
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:18:01
    Where can I find a good picture of a green keycap from wasdkeyboards? I don't want the ones from their website, they are pretty bad from my experience ordering from them.

    I think you can try to visit their facebook :

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=537230012982673&set=a.537229842982690.1073741825.209777592394585&type=3&theater

    I had one picture but the green keycaps are not clear enough:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/uNP3anF.jpg#22544018357535667597)

    Thanks, I am thinking we might just need to order a single green cap from them. I just don't trust their pics, all their colors seem oversaturated and edited on their website. Their dark grey is so much lighter than their website pictures would make you think, especially the ones of user made keyboards like what you just linked.

    Maybe order their Sampler Kit (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/sampler-kit.html) - includes a green keycap and one of each other colour in case you need them in the future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:57:23
    Well I tried a couple of the switches with some black fingernail polish on the top and the bottom of the switch opening and it tightened up the switches a lot.  But I didn't wait long enough for them to dry so they got a little mucked up pulling the switches back out.  I just got done with doing the entire plate with it.  Going to wait until tomorrow afternoon to put switches back into the plate and see how that works.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 21 January 2014, 00:07:48
    My g80 case is a little creaky. I screwed all the screws in pretty tightly, it shouldn't be like this. Any fixes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 21 January 2014, 00:10:18
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 21 January 2014, 00:07:48
    My g80 case is a little creaky. I screwed all the screws in pretty tightly, it shouldn't be like this. Any fixes?

    back the screws off a touch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Tue, 21 January 2014, 00:17:26
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:41:15
    Thanks, I am thinking we might just need to order a single green cap from them. I just don't trust their pics, all their colors seem oversaturated and edited on their website. Their dark grey is so much lighter than their website pictures would make you think, especially the ones of user made keyboards like what you just linked.

    IMO, their keycaps colour has been improved recently.
    The green and the gray are ok. Here are mine, I took them with SP spacebar (on the top) and GMK spacebar (on the right), so you can have comparison.
    [attachimg=1]

    WASD green VS my CCNG round 2
    [attachimg=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:50:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:46:03

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 January 2014, 14:02:09
    Think you're missing the point I'm trying to make. Yes I agree that the nubs and notches are another form of identification. I'm saying that the nub is made from a sprue mark.

    But then wouldn't even non-clicky switches have some kind of sprue mark in that location??

    At a quick glance I thought I saw sprue marks in a different location on the stem. Perhaps the non-clicky switches have that area ground off or the mold has a part that changes depending on what stem its making?

    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 January 2014, 16:29:15
    1) I don't see anything similar anywhere on this mx brown switch I have sitting here.

    2) Also, this might not be the perfect place to ask this, but where is the best/cheapest place to get vintage black switches?

    1) I could very well be wrong. I'm taking an educated guess.

    2) WhiskyTango was selling them for very cheap in the classifieds at one point.

    Quote from: Zeal on Mon, 20 January 2014, 23:38:59
    How are keycaps automatically placed onto keyboards in commercially mass produced factories?

    I would think keyboards with Cherry MX stabs would be easy, but how would the machines get it on Costar stabs? Since it requires a 3 step process to get a costar stabilized key on....or are they placed on manually? :eek:

    Another question just popped in my mind. How about the O-rings that Logitech uses? How would they align the orings to automate the process :eek:

    I imagine they use a combination of workers and machines. You have to remember that labor is plentiful and cheap in China and Taiwan, where many of the keyboards we use are made. So there very well could be a huge line of workers who do things like install stabilizers. I don't know for sure. There are robots that will do pick and place though. Some quick videos I found on YouTube:


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:57:18
    Which material best for plate of this? :)
    ACP, MDF, Acrylic, Polywood, Melaminto,Tripleks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:00:30
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:57:18
    Which material best for plate of this? :)
    ACP, MDF, Acrylic, Polywood, Melaminto,Tripleks

    I don't think any of the composite wood materials you listed wood be good. I would imagine them being brittle. And I'm not a fan of acrylic. ACP with a non-wood core looks like the best option of what you've listed. I would recommend plates made of aluminum or stainless steel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:26:40
    Just wanted to report back and say that the fingernail polish on the switch holes worked like a champ.  The switches now fit just as tight as my Das if not a touch tighter.  No more pulling the whole switch out of the plate removing caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:27:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:26:40
    Just wanted to report back and say that the fingernail polish on the switch holes worked like a champ.  The switches now fit just as tight as my Das if not a touch tighter.  No more pulling the whole switch out of the plate removing caps.

    Thanks for letting us know...now I've found a worthwhile use for fingernail polish!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:46:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:27:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:26:40
    Just wanted to report back and say that the fingernail polish on the switch holes worked like a champ.  The switches now fit just as tight as my Das if not a touch tighter.  No more pulling the whole switch out of the plate removing caps.

    Thanks for letting us know...now I've found a worthwhile use for fingernail polish!!

    Now to figure out the details on getting this thing wired up and the firmware made and flashed.  Plus I still need to cut the bottom row off the PCB for the PCB mount space bar stab.

    Any suggestions for cutting the bottom row off a PCB?  I have a coping saw, dremel with cut off wheels, 4" angle grinder with cut off wheels, and a heavy utility knife available.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:51:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:46:14
    Now to figure out the details on getting this thing wired up and the firmware made and flashed.  Plus I still need to cut the bottom row off the PCB for the PCB mount space bar stab.

    Any suggestions for cutting the bottom row off a PCB?  I have a coping saw, dremel with cut off wheels, 4" angle grinder with cut off wheels, and a heavy utility knife available.

    Dremel seems like it would work fine. And I'm sure your angle grinder or coping saw will work if the Dremel doesn't. lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:53:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:51:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:46:14
    Now to figure out the details on getting this thing wired up and the firmware made and flashed.  Plus I still need to cut the bottom row off the PCB for the PCB mount space bar stab.

    Any suggestions for cutting the bottom row off a PCB?  I have a coping saw, dremel with cut off wheels, 4" angle grinder with cut off wheels, and a heavy utility knife available.

    Dremel seems like it would work fine. And I'm sure your angle grinder or coping saw will work if the Dremel doesn't. lol.

    True its a Dewalt grinder.  I have cut 6"x6"x1/2" angle iron with them.  Just looking for an option that will leave a somewhat clean edge with minimal clean up required.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 21 January 2014, 22:38:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:00:30
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:57:18
    Which material best for plate of this? :)
    ACP, MDF, Acrylic, Polywood, Melaminto,Tripleks

    I don't think any of the composite wood materials you listed wood be good. I would imagine them being brittle. And I'm not a fan of acrylic. ACP with a non-wood core looks like the best option of what you've listed. I would recommend plates made of aluminum or stainless steel.
    Alumunium Composite Panel :- that pretty good?,i choose ACP if so :)
    Edit:they only can cutting ACP 4mm :confused:,so the alternative just acrylic
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:16:39
    Is DCS SP Profile different with OEM? and shorter than DSA
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:24:21
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:16:39
    1) Is DCS SP Profile different with OEM?
    2) and shorter than DSA

    1) SP DCS is SP's copy of Cherry profile. So it's different from OEM.
    2) DSA is the shortest profile I've seen that is commonly available.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:41:43
    Tried searching for this to no avail.

    Is it possible to turn an RJ-45 plug into a USB through the use of an adapter? Furthermore, would a commonplace RJ-45 ethernet to USB dongle work for the purpose of connecting an old keyboard to PC this way? I'm confused if it would work because those dongles are usually meant for internet connection. Appreciate any responses posted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:55:00
    Quote from: Folio on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:41:43
    Tried searching for this to no avail.

    Is it possible to turn an RJ-45 plug into a USB through the use of an adapter? Furthermore, would a commonplace RJ-45 ethernet to USB dongle work for the purpose of connecting an old keyboard to PC this way? I'm confused if it would work because those dongles are usually meant for internet connection. Appreciate any responses posted.


    No, and no.

    If you want to connect a terminal keyboard with an RJ-45 connector to a modern PC, you will need to use a XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0).

    Otherwise, maybe you are referring to the SDL connector of an IBM Model M? Then you need an SDL-to-USB (active) converter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Folio on Wed, 22 January 2014, 10:00:08
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:55:00
    Quote from: Folio on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:41:43
    Tried searching for this to no avail.

    Is it possible to turn an RJ-45 plug into a USB through the use of an adapter? Furthermore, would a commonplace RJ-45 ethernet to USB dongle work for the purpose of connecting an old keyboard to PC this way? I'm confused if it would work because those dongles are usually meant for internet connection. Appreciate any responses posted.


    No, and no.

    If you want to connect a terminal keyboard with an RJ-45 connector to a modern PC, you will need to use a XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0).

    Otherwise, maybe you are referring to the SDL connector of an IBM Model M? Then you need an SDL-to-USB (active) converter.

    Thanks carpe. I found a numpad I am considering purchasing IBM Numeric Keypad 1379550 w/RJ-45 connector MODEL M4-1 BY LEXMARK. So I'm guessing it's the first answer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 January 2014, 10:07:31
    Quote from: Folio on Wed, 22 January 2014, 10:00:08
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:55:00
    Quote from: Folio on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:41:43
    Tried searching for this to no avail.

    Is it possible to turn an RJ-45 plug into a USB through the use of an adapter? Furthermore, would a commonplace RJ-45 ethernet to USB dongle work for the purpose of connecting an old keyboard to PC this way? I'm confused if it would work because those dongles are usually meant for internet connection. Appreciate any responses posted.


    No, and no.

    If you want to connect a terminal keyboard with an RJ-45 connector to a modern PC, you will need to use a XT/AT/PS2/Terminal to USB Converter with NKRO (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0).

    Otherwise, maybe you are referring to the SDL connector of an IBM Model M? Then you need an SDL-to-USB (active) converter.

    Thanks carpe. I found a numpad I am considering purchasing IBM Numeric Keypad 1379550 w/RJ-45 connector MODEL M4-1 BY LEXMARK. So I'm guessing it's the first answer?

    Yes, that will surely work for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:13:41
    Where do I buy MX Lock switches?  I tried ordering from 7bit, but he cancelled the order for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:18:41
    Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:13:41
    Where do I buy MX Lock switches?  I tried ordering from 7bit, but he cancelled the order for them.

    That's a good question, my guess is classifieds or a parts place like digikey or mouser

    I wouldn't mind having one myself  :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:30:02
    Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:13:41
    Where do I buy MX Lock switches?  I tried ordering from 7bit, but he cancelled the order for them.

    http://www.onlinecomponents.com/cherry-electrical-mx1a31nn.html?p=11075424

    Pricey as ****, but they claim to have them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:34:31
    I also need some mx locks!

    tin never sent me mine....

    Quote from: kmiller8 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:30:02
    Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:13:41
    Where do I buy MX Lock switches?  I tried ordering from 7bit, but he cancelled the order for them.

    http://www.onlinecomponents.com/cherry-electrical-mx1a31nn.html?p=11075424

    Pricey as ****, but they claim to have them.

    Holy **** $11 for one switch...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:38:02
    Quote from: codyeatworld on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:34:31
    Holy **** $11 for one switch...

    minimum order $30, better get 3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: winniez on Wed, 22 January 2014, 14:17:08
    Quick question for Topre guys. Are the keycaps interchangable between rows 2, 3 and 4 (do they have the same angle)? I'm thinking about buying a Realforce but I would like to have a dvorak layout. Blanks would be fine aswell but the keysets are rather expensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 January 2014, 14:20:58
    Quote from: winniez on Wed, 22 January 2014, 14:17:08
    Quick question for Topre guys. Are the keycaps interchangable between rows 2, 3 and 4 (do they have the same angle)? I'm thinking about buying a Realforce but I would like to have a dvorak layout. Blanks would be fine aswell but the keysets are rather expensive.

    No, they are profiled to the rows.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 23 January 2014, 01:53:31
    is it possible to remove the legend on the keycap which is pad printing but without destroy the texture of the keycap or making it shine?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 23 January 2014, 02:22:12
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 23 January 2014, 01:53:31
    is it possible to remove the legend on the keycap which is pad printing but without destroy the texture of the keycap or making it shine?

    I am interested in this as well!

    The stock caps on my Poker II are starting to fade so I was wondering whether there is a way to get rid of the legends for a pseudo blank look. The legends seem to be infilled somehow, so I hope the white letters could be removed without damaging the gray base cap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 23 January 2014, 02:25:53
    where i can get plate poker X .dwg? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 23 January 2014, 02:27:36
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Thu, 23 January 2014, 02:22:12
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 23 January 2014, 01:53:31
    is it possible to remove the legend on the keycap which is pad printing but without destroy the texture of the keycap or making it shine?

    I am interested in this as well!

    The stock caps on my Poker II are starting to fade so I was wondering whether there is a way to get rid of the legends for a pseudo blank look. The legends seem to be infilled somehow, so I hope the white letters could be removed without damaging the gray base cap.
    some of my keyboards that I have used for 10 years, they have pad print keycaps, but the legend is still there  :confused:


    One more question, the function/num row of GMK set i row A or B?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 January 2014, 07:51:03
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 23 January 2014, 02:25:53
    where i can get plate poker X .dwg? :)

    Ask one of the people who have made the plates in the past if they'll share with you. They might also be in the GH CAD resources thread in the OP.


    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 23 January 2014, 02:27:36
    1) is it possible to remove the legend on the keycap which is pad printing but without destroy the texture of the keycap or making it shine?


    2) One more question, the function/num row of GMK set is row A or B?

    1) A quick Google search yields the following links for your reading pleasure:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=6318.0
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33043.msg624831#msg624831
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39014.msg759480#msg759480
    http://imgur.com/a/3xreN
    http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/how-to-remove-caps-and-scroll-legends-from-a-filco-t1100.html

    2) Reading over the discussion  for CMYW (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49175.msg1195448#msg1195448), I believe it is B profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 23 January 2014, 07:55:06
    I think function row should actually be E?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 January 2014, 07:56:17
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 23 January 2014, 07:55:06
    I think function row should actually be E?

    Did I misread? Can you find a link with the profiles BlueBär?  :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:04:51
    Well the post you linked was for RGB sets...
    Also according to this (http://www.gmk-electronic-design.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Produktblaetter/PerformanceSheet_keycaps.pdf) relegendables are row E only and relegendables are usually in the function row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:07:05
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:04:51
    Well the post you linked was for RGB sets...
    Also according to this (http://www.gmk-electronic-design.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Produktblaetter/PerformanceSheet_keycaps.pdf) relegendables are row E only and relegendables are usually in the function row.

    I was skimming, oh well :(. Looks like your link is correct :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:15:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:07:05
    I was skimming, oh well :(. Looks like your link is correct :D.

    It's a bit confusing as SP "counts" the opposite way :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:51:52
    Right, the function/number row profile is E. Starting from the bottom is B-B-C-D-E-E. Now some have A-B-C-D-E-F, but that is not common.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 23 January 2014, 09:32:10
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:51:52
    Right, the function/number row profile is E. Starting from the bottom is B-B-C-D-E-E. Now some have A-B-C-D-E-F, but that is not common.

    Is there a reason why not? Is it actually more expensive?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 23 January 2014, 11:48:25
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:51:52
    Right, the function/number row profile is E. Starting from the bottom is B-B-C-D-E-E. Now some have A-B-C-D-E-F, but that is not common.
    Thanks!  :-* I thought that count from top to bottom before
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cseng on Thu, 23 January 2014, 17:54:31
    Are there any switches that can be described as light and non-clicky like MX red, but tactile? Does anyone know?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 17:57:35
    Quote from: cseng on Thu, 23 January 2014, 17:54:31
    Are there any switches that can be described as light and non-clicky like MX red, but tactile? Does anyone know?

    MX Brown
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 January 2014, 18:44:38
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 17:57:35
    Quote from: cseng on Thu, 23 January 2014, 17:54:31
    Are there any switches that can be described as light and non-clicky like MX red, but tactile? Does anyone know?

    MX Brown

    Some people describe them as scratchy.  If you swap between new and used browns chances are you can feel a difference as the tactile bump is pretty light.  I really like ergo clears.  Clear switches with springs from reds, blues, or browns.  Both ergo clears and browns feel really nice lubed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 19:50:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 23 January 2014, 18:44:38
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 17:57:35
    Quote from: cseng on Thu, 23 January 2014, 17:54:31
    Are there any switches that can be described as light and non-clicky like MX red, but tactile? Does anyone know?

    MX Brown

    Some people describe them as scratchy.  If you swap between new and used browns chances are you can feel a difference as the tactile bump is pretty light.  I really like ergo clears.  Clear switches with springs from reds, blues, or browns.  Both ergo clears and browns feel really nice lubed.

    I will agree that lubed browns feel really nice.

    But I don't at all like ergo clears. I much prefer stock clears to ergos.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 23 January 2014, 20:05:20
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 19:50:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 23 January 2014, 18:44:38
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 January 2014, 17:57:35
    Quote from: cseng on Thu, 23 January 2014, 17:54:31
    Are there any switches that can be described as light and non-clicky like MX red, but tactile? Does anyone know?

    MX Brown

    Some people describe them as scratchy.  If you swap between new and used browns chances are you can feel a difference as the tactile bump is pretty light.  I really like ergo clears.  Clear switches with springs from reds, blues, or browns.  Both ergo clears and browns feel really nice lubed.

    I will agree that lubed browns feel really nice.

    But I don't at all like ergo clears. I much prefer stock clears to ergos.

    I've never used ergo clears, but I can say that lubed stock clears are really nice.  So to anyone that's considering getting some, don't think that you have to mod them for them to be enjoyable - stock clears are still good!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rayne on Fri, 24 January 2014, 03:31:35
    so i dont really know if this is a simple answer question... but i thought i would ask here rather than making a new thread.
    I (somewhat) recently got a GON acrylic A.87 from the classifieds, and i was wondering if it was possible to add LEDs to it, to make it back lit.
    from what iv read and the text on the pcb its self, it seems you can. Im just not sure where the resistors would go... has any one here ever added LEDs to this pcb? if so how hard of a project is it?
    I just want to make some sort of colorful design as a fun project.

    also here are some pics of the pcb.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 08:16:20
    Quote from: Rayne on Fri, 24 January 2014, 03:31:35
    1) I (somewhat) recently got a GON acrylic A.87 from the classifieds, and i was wondering if it was possible to add LEDs to it, to make it back lit.

    2) Im just not sure where the resistors would go... has any one here ever added LEDs to this pcb?

    3) if so how hard of a project is it?

    1) Looks like there are the proper LEDs holes in the PCB.

    2) I'm not sure where the resistors would go. My KMAC has SMD resistors for the LEDs. It looks like there might be some around the chip but it looks like your picture is cutoff.

    3) I don't think it's hard. But it's dependent on if you've done soldering before. Have you done any soldering before? It would probably be a 1-2 hour project for me. I've built up a few keyboards and have had soldering experience from previous jobs. If you're new, it will take you longer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 24 January 2014, 12:23:50
    Anyone have suggestions for best matte clear coat?

    I am painting a QFR gold for my brother, and it is going to be zelda themed and all his gold zelda stuff he has right now is matte.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 24 January 2014, 12:53:55
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 24 January 2014, 12:23:50
    Anyone have suggestions for best matte clear coat?

    I am painting a QFR gold for my brother, and it is going to be zelda themed and all his gold zelda stuff he has right now is matte.

    I liked this stuff

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48192.msg1050275#msg1050275
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Fri, 24 January 2014, 13:30:59
    so I have a board with MX White, I noticed that some switches dont really click, how should I go about fixing this issue? would lubing help? Or do I have to buy new switches? or springs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 24 January 2014, 13:34:28

    Quote from: phx on Fri, 24 January 2014, 13:30:59
    so I have a board with MX White, I noticed that some switches dont really click, how should I go about fixing this issue? would lubing help? Or do I have to buy new switches? or springs?

    This is a known problem with whites. I've heard that replacing the housing can bring back the click, but I've not had much luck with that myself. Lubing will not help, as it actually dampens or removes the click from clicky switches. The only thing I know to do is replace the switches, which will require soldering. Others might have less invasive suggestions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 24 January 2014, 13:38:03
    Quote from: phx on Fri, 24 January 2014, 13:30:59
    so I have a board with MX White, I noticed that some switches dont really click, how should I go about fixing this issue? would lubing help? Or do I have to buy new switches? or springs?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.msg1172831#msg1172831 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.msg1172831#msg1172831)

    ^^ That might help.

    EDIT: ninja'd haha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:04:26
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 24 January 2014, 12:53:55
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 24 January 2014, 12:23:50
    Anyone have suggestions for best matte clear coat?

    I am painting a QFR gold for my brother, and it is going to be zelda themed and all his gold zelda stuff he has right now is matte.

    I liked this stuff

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48192.msg1050275#msg1050275

    I suggest reading through Photoelectric's painting thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44191.0) for more information.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:12:12
    So, I bought the board in this post back in December, mainly for the caps:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52130.0

    But I hate all of the relegendable keys on the F Row, Ins Cluster, and Arrows. Can anyone recommend a cheap Cherry board to get normal WoB caps to replace them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:16:31
    Quote from: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:12:12
    So, I bought the board in this post back in December, mainly for the caps:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52130.0

    But I hate all of the relegendable keys on the F Row, Ins Cluster, and Arrows. Can anyone recommend a cheap Cherry board to get normal WoB caps to replace them?

    - G80-8100
    - MY7000
    - MY1800

    You'll want to refer here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) for your preferred material. I just bought a cheap Cherry MY1800LUMUS for the White on Black POM caps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rayne on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:16:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 08:16:20

    1) Looks like there are the proper LEDs holes in the PCB.

    2) I'm not sure where the resistors would go. My KMAC has SMD resistors for the LEDs. It looks like there might be some around the chip but it looks like your picture is cutoff.

    3) I don't think it's hard. But it's dependent on if you've done soldering before. Have you done any soldering before? It would probably be a 1-2 hour project for me. I've built up a few keyboards and have had soldering experience from previous jobs. If you're new, it will take you longer.
    thanks for the reply! and i have done some soldering before, i have built 2 phantoms and done some small projects for fun. so i think i can do it, just need to look into the resistors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:27:11
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 24 January 2014, 13:34:28

    Quote from: phx on Fri, 24 January 2014, 13:30:59
    so I have a board with MX White, I noticed that some switches dont really click, how should I go about fixing this issue? would lubing help? Or do I have to buy new switches? or springs?

    This is a known problem with whites. I've heard that replacing the housing can bring back the click, but I've not had much luck with that myself. Lubing will not help, as it actually dampens or removes the click from clicky switches. The only thing I know to do is replace the switches, which will require soldering. Others might have less invasive suggestions.

    hmm, know a place where I can pick up a few white switches? think I'll just swap them out.
    dont really wanna go thru the GB on DT again
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:28:53
    Quote from: phx on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:27:11
    hmm, know a place where I can pick up a few white switches? think I'll just swap them out.
    dont really wanna go thru the GB on DT again

    Right now there's not really any good sources for White switches in general.

    Edit: QWERKeys (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49117.msg1190945#msg1190945) and MechanicalKeyboards.com (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49117.msg1121594#msg1121594) are hopefully going to carry Whites at some point. I can't find the post from the MK.com rep about MX Whites though...can someone help me out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:38:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:28:53
    Quote from: phx on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:27:11
    hmm, know a place where I can pick up a few white switches? think I'll just swap them out.
    dont really wanna go thru the GB on DT again

    Right now there's not really any good sources for White switches in general.

    Edit: QWERKeys (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49117.msg1190945#msg1190945) and MechanicalKeyboards.com (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49117.msg1121594#msg1121594) are hopefully going to carry Whites at some point. I can't find the post from the MK.com rep about MX Whites though...can someone help me out?

    Here:  :)
    Quote from: ShakeR on Tue, 05 November 2013, 12:51:44
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 04 November 2013, 06:29:49
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:25:44
    With you being a cherry partner, can you distribute ultimate switch sampling sets with all switches, even the rare ones?

    Which switches are you calling rare?

    Reading the OP, they asked for any available switches and all they could get at the moment were clears.

    Yeah, we asked for ALL of them.  We expect to receive two more switch types at the end of the year and 4 - 5 more switch types by April.  We should have Clear, blue, green, red, brown, white, and clear plate mounts by April 2014.  Believe it or not, this is considered 'quick' as many switches are on back order for over a year.

    Rest assured we're trying our absolute hardest to get as many switches and as many types of switches as possible!

    Quote from: ShakeR on Tue, 05 November 2013, 12:55:45
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 November 2013, 12:52:40
    So is there any truth to 'whites' being discontinued?

    Apparently not the whites we have coming in :D
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50290.msg1103937#msg1103937
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:39:38
    Thank you Zeal  :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:44:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:16:31
    Quote from: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:12:12
    So, I bought the board in this post back in December, mainly for the caps:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52130.0

    But I hate all of the relegendable keys on the F Row, Ins Cluster, and Arrows. Can anyone recommend a cheap Cherry board to get normal WoB caps to replace them?

    - G80-8100
    - MY7000
    - MY1800

    You'll want to refer here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) for your preferred material. I just bought a cheap Cherry MY1800LUMUS for the White on Black POM caps

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PeteZ on Fri, 24 January 2014, 16:42:30
    Which layout fits best for QPAD MK-50 ?
    I want to buy an ISO set from WASDkeyboards but I'm unsure if the R1 keys are the same.
    (ye im a newbie here, hi all :)
    ye im new to mechanical keyboard, WOHOO awesome feeling)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 January 2014, 01:05:11
    Quote from: PeteZ on Fri, 24 January 2014, 16:42:30
    Which layout fits best for QPAD MK-50 ?
    I want to buy an ISO set from WASDkeyboards but I'm unsure if the R1 keys are the same.

    The mod row/bottom row is weird. Looks like:
    1.5x - 1x - 1.5x - 6.25x - 1.5x - 1x - 1x - 1.5x

    You'll probably have to get an ISO kit, and two Tsangan kits in order to fill it out. WASDKeyboards don't have the Tsangan kit for the modifer row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 25 January 2014, 01:11:02
    Does SP can make? DCS
    R1=1.75,1.25,2.25
    R2=1.25
    R3=1.25,1.5

     :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 January 2014, 01:15:28
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 25 January 2014, 01:11:02
    Does SP can make? DCS
    R1=1.75,1.25,2.25
    R2=1.25
    R3=1.25,1.5

     :)

    Check out their inventory and info here (http://keycapsdirect.com/index.php).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 25 January 2014, 05:49:55
    WASDkb uses cherry profile/OEM?
    Is DSA Retro uses printing DS/DYE/Engraved laser?
    what font used?
     :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 January 2014, 09:10:49
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 25 January 2014, 05:49:55
    1) WASDkb uses cherry profile/OEM?
    2) Is DSA Retro uses printing DS/DYE/Engraved laser?
    3) what font used?

    1) OEM
    2) Doubleshot
    3) Answer can be found in the OP
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xredman on Sat, 25 January 2014, 10:53:59
    What switches do this keyboard use? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/syd/4258880146.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 January 2014, 11:18:19
    Quote from: xredman on Sat, 25 January 2014, 10:53:59
    What switches do this keyboard use? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/syd/4258880146.html

    Looks like this keyboard was made in 1985 (http://www.nytimes.com/1985/07/23/science/peripherals-comfortable-keyboards.html). If we look at the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keytronic), it looks like it's a Keytronic foam and foil capacitive keyboard. There seems to be two types (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Key_Tronic_foam_and_foil) of foam and foil = Linear and Tactile. So ask the seller what it feels like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:10:57
    Any chance this has cherry mx switches and which? If it does pls dont buy it, I want it bad :/
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYSE-901861-26-Beige-Keyboard-PS2-Generic-US-NEW-A249-/111230931183?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item19e5e150ef
    I'm terrible with vintage keyboards and have no clue if it is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:13:44
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:10:57
    Any chance this has cherry mx switches and which? If it does pls dont buy it, I want it bad :/
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYSE-901861-26-Beige-Keyboard-PS2-Generic-US-NEW-A249-/111230931183?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item19e5e150ef
    I'm terrible with vintage keyboards and have no clue if it is.

    rubber d-d-d-omes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:16:08
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:10:57
    Any chance this has cherry mx switches and which? If it does pls dont buy it, I want it bad :/
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYSE-901861-26-Beige-Keyboard-PS2-Generic-US-NEW-A249-/111230931183?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item19e5e150ef
    I'm terrible with vintage keyboards and have no clue if it is.

    quick way to find out if it has RD or MX.. if it doesn't have the triangular yellow arrows (or any yellow arrows, as some have normal arrows.. but still yellow), it's 99.9% RD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:16:20
    Quote from: kmiller8 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:13:44
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:10:57
    Any chance this has cherry mx switches and which? If it does pls dont buy it, I want it bad :/
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYSE-901861-26-Beige-Keyboard-PS2-Generic-US-NEW-A249-/111230931183?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item19e5e150ef
    I'm terrible with vintage keyboards and have no clue if it is.

    rubber d-d-d-omes
    Noooooooooooo

    Thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 25 January 2014, 23:15:48
    Quote from: demik on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:16:08
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 20:10:57
    Any chance this has cherry mx switches and which? If it does pls dont buy it, I want it bad :/
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WYSE-901861-26-Beige-Keyboard-PS2-Generic-US-NEW-A249-/111230931183?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item19e5e150ef
    I'm terrible with vintage keyboards and have no clue if it is.

    quick way to find out if it has RD or MX.. if it doesn't have the triangular yellow arrows (or any yellow arrows, as some have normal arrows.. but still yellow), it's 99.9% RD.

    I have a WYSE terminal board with all black on gray double shots on all the keys that is MX blacks.  But the case says LINK not WYSE.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 26 January 2014, 05:24:01
    How height ISO enter like 2.00  stand position?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Choker on Sun, 26 January 2014, 12:30:19
    What's the weight of left ctrl, left alt and left win keys on a variable weight Realforce? Are they 30g or 45g?

    PS. Please answer this question if you have a realforce variable and you can feel it. I know I can google "realforce variable weight" and find a picture showing the weight areas, but I don't want to trust that picture because it could be wrong.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 January 2014, 13:13:07
    Quote from: Choker on Sun, 26 January 2014, 12:30:19
    What's the weight of left ctrl, left alt and left win keys on a variable weight Realforce? Are they 30g or 45g?

    PS. Please answer this question if you have a realforce variable and you can feel it. I know I can google "realforce variable weight" and find a picture showing the weight areas, but I don't want to trust that picture because it could be wrong.

    Yeah...No one is going to be able to press down on a key and say "yup, that's 45g". Everyone you ask will tell you something different since everyone experiences touch a different way. So you'll have to a) get the board and try it for yourself or b) trust the picture.

    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 26 January 2014, 05:24:01
    How height ISO enter like 2.00  stand position?

    I'm not understanding this question.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Choker on Sun, 26 January 2014, 13:22:24
    Well seems you didn't get me.

    For people who have the board on hand, they can certainly tell me, because the letters that's supposed to be pressed by pinky, Z for instance, is 30g, and letters in the middle, F for instance, is 45g, and you can certainly tell the difference, and the sound is difference too. Therefore you know the weight of Ctrl just by pressing them.

    I want to know because my left pinky hurts from pressing Ctrl too often,  and I think the realforce variable weight could solve this problem, but when I look at the picture, it shows left Ctrl is 45g, which I think doesn't make sense, because the variable weight is supposed to ease your pinky. 

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 January 2014, 13:13:07
    Quote from: Choker on Sun, 26 January 2014, 12:30:19
    What's the weight of left ctrl, left alt and left win keys on a variable weight Realforce? Are they 30g or 45g?

    PS. Please answer this question if you have a realforce variable and you can feel it. I know I can google "realforce variable weight" and find a picture showing the weight areas, but I don't want to trust that picture because it could be wrong.

    Yeah...No one is going to be able to press down on a key and say "yup, that's 45g". Everyone you ask will tell you something different since everyone experiences touch a different way. So you'll have to a) get the board and try it for yourself or b) trust the picture.

    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 26 January 2014, 05:24:01
    How height ISO enter like 2.00  stand position?

    I'm not understanding this question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:01:06
    Give me a few minutes to pull out my variable realforce and take some photos.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:01:40
    Quote from: Wildcard on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:01:06
    Give me a few minutes to pull out my variable realforce and take some photos.

    <3 Thank you Wildcard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:19:15
    Ok the left Ctrl is definitely heaver. Mine registers about 48g. The left "A" alpha was right at 30g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:26:07
    Quote from: Choker on Sun, 26 January 2014, 13:22:24
    Well seems you didn't get me.

    For people who have the board on hand, they can certainly tell me, because the letters that's supposed to be pressed by pinky, Z for instance, is 30g, and letters in the middle, F for instance, is 45g, and you can certainly tell the difference, and the sound is difference too. Therefore you know the weight of Ctrl just by pressing them.

    I want to know because my left pinky hurts from pressing Ctrl too often,  and I think the realforce variable weight could solve this problem, but when I look at the picture, it shows left Ctrl is 45g, which I think doesn't make sense, because the variable weight is supposed to ease your pinky. 

    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 January 2014, 13:13:07
    Quote from: Choker on Sun, 26 January 2014, 12:30:19
    What's the weight of left ctrl, left alt and left win keys on a variable weight Realforce? Are they 30g or 45g?

    PS. Please answer this question if you have a realforce variable and you can feel it. I know I can google "realforce variable weight" and find a picture showing the weight areas, but I don't want to trust that picture because it could be wrong.

    Yeah...No one is going to be able to press down on a key and say "yup, that's 45g". Everyone you ask will tell you something different since everyone experiences touch a different way. So you'll have to a) get the board and try it for yourself or b) trust the picture.

    Quote from: Wildcard on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:19:15
    Ok the left Ctrl is definitely heaver. Mine registers about 48g. The left "A" alpha was right at 30g.

    So would you say that it follows this diagram Wildcard?

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44497.0;attach=25147;image)
    (I think the image is from Realforce but I'm not 100%. I got it from here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44067.0) and here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44497.msg926505#msg926505).)

    Looks like khaangaaroo (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44067.msg908697#msg908697) posted some of his experience as well as OO2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44067.msg908945#msg908945). OO2 posted this nice chart of his own personal measurements as well:

    (http://i.imgur.com/A1UCM.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:27:03
    Now that I'm not on my phone.

    Take a look at the force graph that Realforce uses in their specs (credit to EK who I sourced this photo from)
    (http://i.imgur.com/0Gfekf5.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/0Gfekf5.jpg)


    I do think that graph CPT is spot on.

    The intent was to make typing easier on the the keys that are most used when typing (i.e. alphas). I'm assuming they left the modifiers at 45g to prevent accidental key presses. I know that I tend to accidentally press some alphas because the 30g is just way to light for me.

    I know that this isn't always the perfect solution for everyone which is why some members have gone so far as to buy 30g domes and mod the boards to all 30g, or have made modifications to the standard Realforce variable layout. When you open the board up you quickly realize that there isn't one full sheet of domes, but there is several cut pieces strategically placed to give the layout shown above.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:31:13
    Thanks for your help Wildcard! My Topre knowledge is lacking :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:38:04
    Glad I could shed some light on the subject. I just wish I could find my photo of the board opened up to show the unique dome layout. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:39:18
    Quote from: Wildcard on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:38:04
    Glad I could shed some light on the subject. I just wish I could find my photo of the board opened up to show the unique dome layout. :)

    If you find it I would be very interested in seeing that!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 26 January 2014, 21:52:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 January 2014, 13:13:07
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 26 January 2014, 05:24:01
    How height ISO enter like 2.00  stand position?
    I'm not understanding this question.
    Is height ISO enter like 2.u size with stand position? ;D
    and where i can get ISO enter steeped?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Choker on Sun, 26 January 2014, 22:21:35
    Thank you so much Wildcard and CPTBadAss!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 26 January 2014, 23:23:12
    So a while ago I saw a post where someone had taken a square punch (14mm) with the correct sized die and made it longer to help prototype layouts.  Does anyone know where this thread is or where I might be able to get my hands on this type of punch?  I have done some digging but can't seem to find what I am looking for.  The wife wants me to build her a keyboard but she wants a "gaming pad" on the left side with the right side being a 75% layout.  However, she doesn't want the "WASD" set to the standard .75" spacing because she says it feels cramped due to her being used to this keyboard (http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/wolfclaw/).  So I was wanting to find that punch to do some layout work before I get a plate cut.

    Any help here will be appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 27 January 2014, 00:19:16
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:39:18
    Quote from: Wildcard on Sun, 26 January 2014, 20:38:04
    Glad I could shed some light on the subject. I just wish I could find my photo of the board opened up to show the unique dome layout. :)

    If you find it I would be very interested in seeing that!

    I'm going to have to open the board up again soon to test a few modifications. I'll post the photos in a new thread :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Mon, 27 January 2014, 01:16:56
    I guess I'll ask here as I didn't get a response in the lubing thread.

    Quote from: Zeal on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:40:03
    Has anyone tried the GH Lubekit on Originative and compared it to the regular 103/205 Krytox mixture for Ergo-Clears?
    What are the differences between Krytox GPL 206/1506 vs 103/205?

    Thanks in advance for answering. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Xest on Mon, 27 January 2014, 01:41:55
    Hello, im wondering if Mimic's sleeved mini usb cables fit the Ducky Shine 3 because i heard they are too thick to fit in the channels
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.

    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:36:55
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.
    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?
    both :) so maybe buy a phantom and plate,for plate you can see on CAD Resource
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:37:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.

    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?

    Both - basically the switch has to be offset to the left for a off-centre-stemmed caps lock to fit.

    Or did you mean a stepped caps lock (which are usually, but not always, off-centre-stemmed)?  You can get centre-stemmed stepped caps lock key caps that fit a standard board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:53:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:37:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.

    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?

    Both - basically the switch has to be offset to the left for a off-centre-stemmed caps lock to fit.

    Or did you mean a stepped caps lock (which are usually, but not always, off-centre-stemmed)?  You can get centre-stemmed stepped caps lock key caps that fit a standard board.

    Thanks.  I have a few center-stemmed stepped caps lock keys, but they never match the cap sets I have very good.  But that is the look that iam wanting. Just wondering to get that if I would have to get a different plate & PCB?

    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:36:55
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.
    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?
    both :) so maybe buy a phantom and plate,for plate you can see on CAD Resource

    Thanks for the info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 January 2014, 09:41:29
    Quote from: Xest on Mon, 27 January 2014, 01:41:55
    Hello, im wondering if Mimic's sleeved mini usb cables fit the Ducky Shine 3 because i heard they are too thick to fit in the channels

    I don't know because I don't have a Ducky Shine 3 but you can ask tjcaustin through PMs or his vendor forum (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36065.0). He runs mimic-cables.

    Quote from: Zeal on Mon, 27 January 2014, 01:16:56
    Quote from: Zeal on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:40:03
    Has anyone tried the GH Lubekit on Originative and compared it to the regular 103/205 Krytox mixture for Ergo-Clears?
    What are the differences between Krytox GPL 105/206 vs 103/205?

    Looks like the differences that would matter to a GeekHacker is viscosity or how "thick" the mixture will be. You can check the Dupont data sheet (http://www2.dupont.com/Krytox/zh_CN/assets/downloads/H58510_1.pdf) on Krytox for more detailed information.

    I've never tried the "regular mixture". I've only used the GH Lubekit. jdcarpe or mkawa might be able to help if you'd like to PM them. Or maybe they'll see this post.

    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 26 January 2014, 23:23:12
    So a while ago I saw a post where someone had taken a square punch (14mm) with the correct sized die and made it longer to help prototype layouts.  Does anyone know where this thread is or where I might be able to get my hands on this type of punch?

    Try this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.msg1049041#msg1049041).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 27 January 2014, 10:52:30
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 26 January 2014, 23:23:12
    So a while ago I saw a post where someone had taken a square punch (14mm) with the correct sized die and made it longer to help prototype layouts.  Does anyone know where this thread is or where I might be able to get my hands on this type of punch?

    Try this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.msg1049041#msg1049041).
    [/quote]

    Thanks CPT you are amazing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 16:08:16
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:53:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:37:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.

    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?

    Both - basically the switch has to be offset to the left for a off-centre-stemmed caps lock to fit.

    Or did you mean a stepped caps lock (which are usually, but not always, off-centre-stemmed)?  You can get centre-stemmed stepped caps lock key caps that fit a standard board.

    Thanks.  I have a few center-stemmed stepped caps lock keys, but they never match the cap sets I have very good.  But that is the look that iam wanting. Just wondering to get that if I would have to get a different plate & PCB?

    To fit a non-centre-stemmed stepped caps lock on a Filco you would probably need a new PCB (I doubt you could successfully modify the one that it comes with), and a new plate (although that would be slightly easier to modify).  Then you would probably need a new case, unless you managed to find a PCB/plate that would fit into your existing Filco case.

    Basically you'd need a new keyboard ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 January 2014, 16:17:14
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 16:08:16
    More

    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:53:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:37:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.

    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?

    Both - basically the switch has to be offset to the left for a off-centre-stemmed caps lock to fit.

    Or did you mean a stepped caps lock (which are usually, but not always, off-centre-stemmed)?  You can get centre-stemmed stepped caps lock key caps that fit a standard board.

    Thanks.  I have a few center-stemmed stepped caps lock keys, but they never match the cap sets I have very good.  But that is the look that iam wanting. Just wondering to get that if I would have to get a different plate & PCB?

    To fit a non-centre-stemmed stepped caps lock on a Filco you would probably need a new PCB (I doubt you could successfully modify the one that it comes with), and a new plate (although that would be slightly easier to modify).  Then you would probably need a new case, unless you managed to find a PCB/plate that would fit into your existing Filco case.

    Basically you'd need a new keyboard ;)

    Or you can do a stem mod on the stepped caps lock.

    Cut the stem off. You can either do it carefully to reuse or get a donor cap and harvest the stem. Take the cut stem and glue/epoxy it to the proper location.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 27 January 2014, 17:25:57
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 16:08:16
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:53:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:37:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.

    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?

    Both - basically the switch has to be offset to the left for a off-centre-stemmed caps lock to fit.

    Or did you mean a stepped caps lock (which are usually, but not always, off-centre-stemmed)?  You can get centre-stemmed stepped caps lock key caps that fit a standard board.

    Thanks.  I have a few center-stemmed stepped caps lock keys, but they never match the cap sets I have very good.  But that is the look that iam wanting. Just wondering to get that if I would have to get a different plate & PCB?

    To fit a non-centre-stemmed stepped caps lock on a Filco you would probably need a new PCB (I doubt you could successfully modify the one that it comes with), and a new plate (although that would be slightly easier to modify).  Then you would probably need a new case, unless you managed to find a PCB/plate that would fit into your existing Filco case.

    Basically you'd need a new keyboard ;)

    What about going with a phantom plate and PCB?  If I remember right the plate and PCB will drip into a filco or qfr case and is compatible with both center and off center caps lock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 17:29:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 January 2014, 17:25:57
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 16:08:16
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:53:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:37:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.

    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?

    Both - basically the switch has to be offset to the left for a off-centre-stemmed caps lock to fit.

    Or did you mean a stepped caps lock (which are usually, but not always, off-centre-stemmed)?  You can get centre-stemmed stepped caps lock key caps that fit a standard board.

    Thanks.  I have a few center-stemmed stepped caps lock keys, but they never match the cap sets I have very good.  But that is the look that iam wanting. Just wondering to get that if I would have to get a different plate & PCB?

    To fit a non-centre-stemmed stepped caps lock on a Filco you would probably need a new PCB (I doubt you could successfully modify the one that it comes with), and a new plate (although that would be slightly easier to modify).  Then you would probably need a new case, unless you managed to find a PCB/plate that would fit into your existing Filco case.

    Basically you'd need a new keyboard ;)

    What about going with a phantom plate and PCB?  If I remember right the plate and PCB will drip into a filco or qfr case and is compatible with both center and off center caps lock.

    It is looking like that is what iam going to have to do. I know MechanicalKeyboards sells the Phantom PCB, but where would I get the plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 17:41:30
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 January 2014, 17:25:57
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 16:08:16
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:53:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:37:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.

    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?

    Both - basically the switch has to be offset to the left for a off-centre-stemmed caps lock to fit.

    Or did you mean a stepped caps lock (which are usually, but not always, off-centre-stemmed)?  You can get centre-stemmed stepped caps lock key caps that fit a standard board.

    Thanks.  I have a few center-stemmed stepped caps lock keys, but they never match the cap sets I have very good.  But that is the look that iam wanting. Just wondering to get that if I would have to get a different plate & PCB?

    To fit a non-centre-stemmed stepped caps lock on a Filco you would probably need a new PCB (I doubt you could successfully modify the one that it comes with), and a new plate (although that would be slightly easier to modify).  Then you would probably need a new case, unless you managed to find a PCB/plate that would fit into your existing Filco case.

    Basically you'd need a new keyboard ;)

    What about going with a phantom plate and PCB?  If I remember right the plate and PCB will drip into a filco or qfr case and is compatible with both center and off center caps lock.

    That is a lot of work (soldering all the switches etc.) to go through just to get an off-centre-stemmed stepped caps lock.

    CPTBadAss's idea of modifying a caps lock key might be worth a try first.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 17:55:24
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 17:41:30
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 January 2014, 17:25:57
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 16:08:16
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:53:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:37:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 January 2014, 03:32:33
    Quick question.

    I would like to have a off center caps lock on my Filco.  What dictates a board having a off center caps lock?  Is it the plate, the PCB, or both?

    Both - basically the switch has to be offset to the left for a off-centre-stemmed caps lock to fit.

    Or did you mean a stepped caps lock (which are usually, but not always, off-centre-stemmed)?  You can get centre-stemmed stepped caps lock key caps that fit a standard board.

    Thanks.  I have a few center-stemmed stepped caps lock keys, but they never match the cap sets I have very good.  But that is the look that iam wanting. Just wondering to get that if I would have to get a different plate & PCB?

    To fit a non-centre-stemmed stepped caps lock on a Filco you would probably need a new PCB (I doubt you could successfully modify the one that it comes with), and a new plate (although that would be slightly easier to modify).  Then you would probably need a new case, unless you managed to find a PCB/plate that would fit into your existing Filco case.

    Basically you'd need a new keyboard ;)

    What about going with a phantom plate and PCB?  If I remember right the plate and PCB will drip into a filco or qfr case and is compatible with both center and off center caps lock.

    That is a lot of work (soldering all the switches etc.) to go through just to get an off-centre-stemmed stepped caps lock.

    CPTBadAss's idea of modifying a caps lock key might be worth a try first.

    True, but I was eventually wanting to have a Phantom anyways :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 27 January 2014, 23:54:28
    Anyone got a list of wireless 60% boards via bluetooth?

    The only one I know of is the filco minila air. Are there any other ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 08:10:02
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 27 January 2014, 23:54:28
    Anyone got a list of wireless 60% boards via bluetooth?

    The only one I know of is the filco minila air. Are there any other ones?

    Matias Quiet Pro (http://matias.ca/miniquietpro/pc/pr/) and I think there's a Keycool or Noppoo that are wireless. But a quick search seems to show that the Keycool and Noppoo are TKL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 28 January 2014, 09:06:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 08:10:02
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 27 January 2014, 23:54:28
    Anyone got a list of wireless 60% boards via bluetooth?

    The only one I know of is the filco minila air. Are there any other ones?

    Matias Quiet Pro (http://matias.ca/miniquietpro/pc/pr/) and I think there's a Keycool or Noppoo that are wireless. But a quick search seems to show that the Keycool and Noppoo are TKL.

    I'm surprised that nobody has made an adapter that plugs into the end of the USB cord to make any keyboard wireless yet.  Or am I missing something that makes this not work right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 January 2014, 09:08:57
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 28 January 2014, 09:06:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 08:10:02
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 27 January 2014, 23:54:28
    Anyone got a list of wireless 60% boards via bluetooth?

    The only one I know of is the filco minila air. Are there any other ones?

    Matias Quiet Pro (http://matias.ca/miniquietpro/pc/pr/) and I think there's a Keycool or Noppoo that are wireless. But a quick search seems to show that the Keycool and Noppoo are TKL.

    I'm surprised that nobody has made an adapter that plugs into the end of the USB cord to make any keyboard wireless yet.  Or am I missing something that makes this not work right?

    Well there is this

    http://handheldsci.com/kb (http://handheldsci.com/kb)

    I guess concerns would be battery life and size/look of the adapter and cost.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: billnye on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:52:33
    Is there a list of old Cherry boards that come with doubleshot keys? I've been looking for a set and it would be great to know which keyboards to look for specifically.

    Thanks!  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:59:58
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:52:33
    Is there a list of old Cherry boards that come with doubleshot keys?

    First and foremost, please read. I posted a partial list literally one page back. Assuming you want the standard ANSI layout:

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:16:31
    Quote from: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:12:12
    So, I bought the board in this post back in December, mainly for the caps:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52130.0

    But I hate all of the relegendable keys on the F Row, Ins Cluster, and Arrows. Can anyone recommend a cheap Cherry board to get normal WoB caps to replace them?

    - G80-8100
    - MY7000
    - MY1800

    You'll want to refer here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) for your preferred material. I just bought a cheap Cherry MY1800LUMUS for the White on Black POM caps

    Other models to look for:

    - G81-8100
    - G80-1800 / G81-1800
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: billnye on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:09:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:59:58
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:52:33
    Is there a list of old Cherry boards that come with doubleshot keys?

    First and foremost, please read. I posted a partial list literally one page back. Assuming you want the standard ANSI layout:

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:16:31
    Quote from: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:12:12
    So, I bought the board in this post back in December, mainly for the caps:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52130.0

    But I hate all of the relegendable keys on the F Row, Ins Cluster, and Arrows. Can anyone recommend a cheap Cherry board to get normal WoB caps to replace them?

    - G80-8100
    - MY7000
    - MY1800

    You'll want to refer here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) for your preferred material. I just bought a cheap Cherry MY1800LUMUS for the White on Black POM caps

    Other models to look for:

    - G81-8100
    - G80-1800 / G81-1800

    Thank you for the help. I read all the FAQ to see if it was in there, but I didn't read the posts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:18:36
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:09:12
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:59:58
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:52:33
    Is there a list of old Cherry boards that come with doubleshot keys?

    First and foremost, please read. I posted a partial list literally one page back. Assuming you want the standard ANSI layout:

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:16:31
    Quote from: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:12:12
    So, I bought the board in this post back in December, mainly for the caps:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52130.0

    But I hate all of the relegendable keys on the F Row, Ins Cluster, and Arrows. Can anyone recommend a cheap Cherry board to get normal WoB caps to replace them?

    - G80-8100
    - MY7000
    - MY1800

    You'll want to refer here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) for your preferred material. I just bought a cheap Cherry MY1800LUMUS for the White on Black POM caps

    Other models to look for:

    - G81-8100
    - G80-1800 / G81-1800


    Thank you for the help. I read all the FAQ to see if it was in there, but I didn't read the posts.

    Should also say the modifiers on most of those boards except for the -8100 boards won't fit a standard ANSI. You might have to hunt modifier kits. But most of the other caps will fit. Make sure you look at pictures very carefully when you buy. There are other models as well but these are easily found.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: billnye on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:30:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:18:36
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:09:12
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:59:58
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:52:33
    Is there a list of old Cherry boards that come with doubleshot keys?

    First and foremost, please read. I posted a partial list literally one page back. Assuming you want the standard ANSI layout:

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:16:31
    Quote from: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:12:12
    So, I bought the board in this post back in December, mainly for the caps:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52130.0

    But I hate all of the relegendable keys on the F Row, Ins Cluster, and Arrows. Can anyone recommend a cheap Cherry board to get normal WoB caps to replace them?

    - G80-8100
    - MY7000
    - MY1800

    You'll want to refer here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) for your preferred material. I just bought a cheap Cherry MY1800LUMUS for the White on Black POM caps

    Other models to look for:

    - G81-8100
    - G80-1800 / G81-1800


    Thank you for the help. I read all the FAQ to see if it was in there, but I didn't read the posts.

    Should also say the modifiers on most of those boards except for the -8100 boards won't fit a standard ANSI. You might have to hunt modifier kits. But most of the other caps will fit. Make sure you look at pictures very carefully when you buy. There are other models as well but these are easily found.

    Thanks again. Also, if I want to find the doubleshots I have to find a board that has an "H" after the numbers right? Most of them I have seen have "L" which I read means lasered keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:50:51
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:30:59
    Thanks again. Also, if I want to find the doubleshots I have to find a board that has an "H" after the numbers right? Most of them I have seen have "L" which I read means lasered keys.

    Just FYI, I'm referring to this link (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps).

    H is double shot ABS. L is lasered caps. If it's white on black (a white keyboard) it's lasered PBT. If it's black on white (a black keyboard) it's lasered POM.

    There's other modelslike S and P too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:54:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:18:36
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:09:12
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:59:58
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:52:33
    Is there a list of old Cherry boards that come with doubleshot keys?

    First and foremost, please read. I posted a partial list literally one page back. Assuming you want the standard ANSI layout:

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:16:31
    Quote from: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:12:12
    So, I bought the board in this post back in December, mainly for the caps:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52130.0

    But I hate all of the relegendable keys on the F Row, Ins Cluster, and Arrows. Can anyone recommend a cheap Cherry board to get normal WoB caps to replace them?

    - G80-8100
    - MY7000
    - MY1800

    You'll want to refer here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) for your preferred material. I just bought a cheap Cherry MY1800LUMUS for the White on Black POM caps

    Other models to look for:

    - G81-8100
    - G80-1800 / G81-1800


    Thank you for the help. I read all the FAQ to see if it was in there, but I didn't read the posts.

    Should also say the modifiers on most of those boards except for the -8100 boards won't fit a standard ANSI. You might have to hunt modifier kits. But most of the other caps will fit. Make sure you look at pictures very carefully when you buy. There are other models as well but these are easily found.

    I think you mean the G80-8200 and G80-8113

    Both have fulltouch capslocks and are compatible with QFR filco except for the spacebar (which is offcenter)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 28 January 2014, 22:36:24
    IDK if this is simple question or not, but can someone explain how a keyboard controller works? What the various components, CPU, FLASH, EEPROM, RAM play?

    I know that is scans rows or columns for key presses, and then matches the keypress to a scan code and sends it to the host unit. Correct?

    However I wanted a more technical and detailed explanation, as in, what role does FLASH/EEPROM play, what does the RAM on the controller do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 January 2014, 22:51:29
    MOZ, have a look at komar's blog post, here (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/).

    :D


    Also, have a look through some of Soarer's posts here, as well as the TMK firmware thread.

    The guys working on the controllers for the Model F's might have some insight, as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 28 January 2014, 22:56:40
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 January 2014, 22:51:29
    MOZ, have a look at komar's blog post, here (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/).

    :D


    Also, have a look through some of Soarer's posts here, as well as the TMK firmware thread.

    The guys working on the controllers for the Model F's might have some insight, as well.

    Read, and that is why I specified how the controller works; komar's blog post is very informative however only deals broadly with a keyboard and is focused on the matrix part of it.

    Edit: Yes, I'll go through Soarer and Hasu's post. Maybe hit them up via PM as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 January 2014, 08:19:59
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:54:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:18:36
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 21:09:12
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:59:58
    Quote from: billnye29 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:52:33
    Is there a list of old Cherry boards that come with doubleshot keys?

    First and foremost, please read. I posted a partial list literally one page back. Assuming you want the standard ANSI layout:

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:16:31
    Quote from: shadewolf on Fri, 24 January 2014, 14:12:12
    So, I bought the board in this post back in December, mainly for the caps:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52130.0

    But I hate all of the relegendable keys on the F Row, Ins Cluster, and Arrows. Can anyone recommend a cheap Cherry board to get normal WoB caps to replace them?

    - G80-8100
    - MY7000
    - MY1800

    You'll want to refer here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) for your preferred material. I just bought a cheap Cherry MY1800LUMUS for the White on Black POM caps

    Other models to look for:

    - G81-8100
    - G80-1800 / G81-1800


    Thank you for the help. I read all the FAQ to see if it was in there, but I didn't read the posts.

    Should also say the modifiers on most of those boards except for the -8100 boards won't fit a standard ANSI. You might have to hunt modifier kits. But most of the other caps will fit. Make sure you look at pictures very carefully when you buy. There are other models as well but these are easily found.

    I think you mean the G80-8200 and G80-8113

    Both have fulltouch capslocks and are compatible with QFR filco except for the spacebar (which is offcenter)

    Crap, I was thinking of the board listed in dante's sale here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53735.msg1209532#msg1209532) but that has an ISO enter :(. You're right of course.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 29 January 2014, 19:51:54
    Anyone got a link to a review of every alps switch? ie listing if they're tactile, linear, clicky, etc. Searched OP and there was nothing on this topic
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 January 2014, 19:55:33
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 29 January 2014, 19:51:54
    Anyone got a link to a review of every alps switch? ie listing if they're tactile, linear, clicky, etc. Searched OP and there was nothing on this topic

    Code: [Select]
    site:deskthority.net Alps SKCL/SKCM series

    Try that
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Binge on Wed, 29 January 2014, 19:56:49
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 29 January 2014, 19:51:54
    Anyone got a link to a review of every alps switch? ie listing if they're tactile, linear, clicky, etc. Searched OP and there was nothing on this topic

    Today I opened a fortune cookie while asking the exact same question.  It read,

    Quote
    Your query will be met with the rolling of eyes and continued disdain of your peers.

    Powerful stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 29 January 2014, 23:01:01
    Does anyone remember what the actual color codes were for the Sanctuary set are?  I dug through the first 7 or 8 pages and haven't found a definitive answer.  I do see a lot of suggestions for GX on the gray and possibly the same red as the Ragnorok set.  But haven't found a confirmation yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 29 January 2014, 23:20:14
    PCB mounted v Acrylic plate with wiring which better? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 30 January 2014, 00:37:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 29 January 2014, 23:01:01
    Does anyone remember what the actual color codes were for the Sanctuary set are?  I dug through the first 7 or 8 pages and haven't found a definitive answer.  I do see a lot of suggestions for GX on the gray and possibly the same red as the Ragnorok set.  But haven't found a confirmation yet.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35747.0

    That is a IC for blank Sanctuary keys, and suggests GX and RBV.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moderation Team on Thu, 30 January 2014, 00:45:11
    Inane bickering has been removed.  Please stay on-topic and take personal drama to PMs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 30 January 2014, 00:53:57
    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 30 January 2014, 00:37:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 29 January 2014, 23:01:01
    Does anyone remember what the actual color codes were for the Sanctuary set are?  I dug through the first 7 or 8 pages and haven't found a definitive answer.  I do see a lot of suggestions for GX on the gray and possibly the same red as the Ragnorok set.  But haven't found a confirmation yet.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35747.0

    That is a IC for blank Sanctuary keys, and suggests GX and RBV.

    Awesome thanks Rowdy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:50:14
    Quote from: Moderation Team on Thu, 30 January 2014, 00:45:11
    Inane bickering has been removed.  Please stay on-topic and take personal drama to PMs.

    o.O

    When did we get a Mod Team Account?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:51:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:50:14
    Quote from: Moderation Team on Thu, 30 January 2014, 00:45:11
    Inane bickering has been removed.  Please stay on-topic and take personal drama to PMs.

    o.O

    When did we get a Mod Team Account?

    About 8 hours ago: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54079.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:55:42
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:51:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:50:14
    Quote from: Moderation Team on Thu, 30 January 2014, 00:45:11
    Inane bickering has been removed.  Please stay on-topic and take personal drama to PMs.

    o.O

    When did we get a Mod Team Account?

    About 8 hours ago: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54079.0

    riotonthebay failed the rhetorical question portion of today's exam :P. Just kidding, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:57:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:55:42
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:51:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:50:14
    Quote from: Moderation Team on Thu, 30 January 2014, 00:45:11
    Inane bickering has been removed.  Please stay on-topic and take personal drama to PMs.

    o.O

    When did we get a Mod Team Account?

    About 8 hours ago: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54079.0

    riotonthebay failed the rhetorical question portion of today's exam :P. Just kidding, thanks!

    In the Q&A thread, I take questions seriously. Very ****ing seriously.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 January 2014, 08:55:35
    There's a listing of boards with Blue Alps in the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCM_Blue). I know Omnikey 101s, 101Ps, and 102s can be found. But I'm not sure which boards I should focus on finding.

    Which of the boards in the list are more commonly found with Blue Alps? Or is there a board that is a bit more common?

    Also has anyone dealt with Northgate Keyboard Repair (http://www.northgate-keyboard-repair.com/) and have some feedback?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 02 February 2014, 13:48:51
    This really probably isn't the right thread but does anyone know if lifezone/team redline ever does more than one round on their keyboards? I would love to see an LZ-GH R2 this year especially if they fix their issues with debounce/chattering or whatever.  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 02 February 2014, 14:28:44
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 02 February 2014, 13:48:51
    This really probably isn't the right thread but does anyone know if lifezone/team redline ever does more than one round on their keyboards? I would love to see an LZ-GH R2 this year especially if they fix their issues with debounce/chattering or whatever.  :-[

    I don't think they do.  Of course, given the way their latest GBs are going, you might be better off getting something like a KMAC or one of the Duck cases, like the Lightsaver, to come around in the style you'd like.  Or make yourself a TEK-80.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 02 February 2014, 14:34:38
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 02 February 2014, 14:28:44
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 02 February 2014, 13:48:51
    This really probably isn't the right thread but does anyone know if lifezone/team redline ever does more than one round on their keyboards? I would love to see an LZ-GH R2 this year especially if they fix their issues with debounce/chattering or whatever.  :-[

    I don't think they do.  Of course, given the way their latest GBs are going, you might be better off getting something like a KMAC or one of the Duck cases, like the Lightsaver, to come around in the style you'd like.  Or make yourself a TEK-80.
    Yeah, I saw that, pretty crazy. I might just need to break down and buy someones used LZ-GH later. I just don't want a kmac, I love how the LZ-GH/S/F all have the board going in through the bottom so there is no visible seam.

    Wonder if any other case designer could make something similar. :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 03 February 2014, 08:36:03
    how feel blacks on pbt,what is different on ABS?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 03 February 2014, 08:37:04
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 03 February 2014, 08:36:03
    how feel blacks on pbt,what is different on ABS?

    PBT feels more dry than ABS does, and is usually more textured. I think it feels a bit like unglazed ceramic.

    The amount of texture though can very pretty widely. BSP's PBT is known for a very fine texture, for instance, while SP's DSA PBT is very rough.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 February 2014, 20:32:04
    Will a GH60 revB pcb fit a poker 2 stock case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 February 2014, 20:57:35
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 February 2014, 20:32:04
    Will a GH60 revB pcb fit a poker 2 stock case?

    I think it's compatible. Komar says in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg954124;topicseen#msg954124) that the GH60 will fit the Poker X case. In WFD's review of the Poker 2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0), the third picture shows that the Poker 2 has an extra stand off/mounting location. But WFD doesn't note any other difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 February 2014, 21:05:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 February 2014, 20:57:35
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 03 February 2014, 20:32:04
    Will a GH60 revB pcb fit a poker 2 stock case?

    I think it's compatible. Komar says in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg954124;topicseen#msg954124) that the GH60 will fit the Poker X case. In WFD's review of the Poker 2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0), the third picture shows that the Poker 2 has an extra stand off/mounting location. But WFD doesn't note any other difference.

    Was sure about Poker X, but not about the Poker 2. Thanks for the confirmation CPT
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 05 February 2014, 00:54:13
    Can i see stabs on topre? i ever see the stabs,embedded with plate,right?
    how to feel compare than costar/cheryy, what is wooble?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 February 2014, 08:20:53
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 05 February 2014, 00:54:13
    1) Can i see stabs on topre?
    2) i ever see the stabs,embedded with plate,right?
    3) how to feel compare than costar/cheryy, what is wooble?

    1)

    (http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6175/6143967636_e425854552_b.jpg)
    Realforce 105U from here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=21952.0)

    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8044/8103019712_bc9fa4b3ee_h.jpg)
    HHKB from longweight (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?s=6e117e71c3de2f8773d0e9fec9329e6c&p=3333428&postcount=1)

    2) Not always, see pictures above

    3) Tolerances are supposed to be tighter in general for Topre switches. When I typed on a Realforce 10AE or HHKB, I didn't feel any wobble at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:23:06
    Haven't been in here in so long...

    Does the Silent Realforce have the purple sliders and little plastic rings?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keymaster on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:35:33
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:23:06
    Haven't been in here in so long...

    Does the Silent Realforce have the purple sliders and little plastic rings?

    It looks like it: http://imgur.com/a/TlIl7

    (http://i.imgur.com/YsWMZj8.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:40:54
    Quote from: keymaster on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:35:33
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:23:06
    Haven't been in here in so long...

    Does the Silent Realforce have the purple sliders and little plastic rings?

    It looks like it: http://imgur.com/a/TlIl7

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/YsWMZj8.jpg)


    Thank you very much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 06 February 2014, 00:50:41
    what is name this GB? :)
    (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1454906_693111587379920_136176445_n.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Thu, 06 February 2014, 01:59:11
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 06 February 2014, 00:50:41
    what is name this GB? :)
    Show Image
    (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1454906_693111587379920_136176445_n.jpg)


    The TKL "Bluegreen" Keycap Set
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49147
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Thu, 06 February 2014, 11:25:27
    so I got an ergodox recently, I need a set of caps to put on it.
    brainstorming some ideas:
    I really dig light colors caps, and preferably with prints on. I understand it's difficult to have all printed caps on an ergodox since I might change the layout and whatnot, has to be all printed, it looks weird to have some printed and some not. =\
    probably also has to be DSA profile, SP does sell them in blank sets, hmm, are they any good?

    edit: if i remember correctly, there were some GBs on here with ergodox kits. but the matching alpha set is always large centered text legend, argh
    this set looks pretty good: http://i.imgur.com/210xlYF.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 February 2014, 12:46:53
    Quote from: phx on Thu, 06 February 2014, 11:25:27
    so I got an ergodox recently, I need a set of caps to put on it.
    brainstorming some ideas:
    I really dig light colors caps, and preferably with prints on. I understand it's difficult to have all printed caps on an ergodox since I might change the layout and whatnot, has to be all printed, it looks weird to have some printed and some not. =\
    probably also has to be DSA profile, SP does sell them in blank sets, hmm, are they any good?

    edit: if i remember correctly, there were some GBs on here with ergodox kits. but the matching alpha set is always large centered text legend, argh
    this set looks pretty good: http://i.imgur.com/210xlYF.jpg

    What's your question exactly? If the SP DSA caps are good?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Thu, 06 February 2014, 13:17:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 February 2014, 12:46:53
    Quote from: phx on Thu, 06 February 2014, 11:25:27
    so I got an ergodox recently, I need a set of caps to put on it.
    brainstorming some ideas:
    I really dig light colors caps, and preferably with prints on. I understand it's difficult to have all printed caps on an ergodox since I might change the layout and whatnot, has to be all printed, it looks weird to have some printed and some not. =\
    probably also has to be DSA profile, SP does sell them in blank sets, hmm, are they any good?

    edit: if i remember correctly, there were some GBs on here with ergodox kits. but the matching alpha set is always large centered text legend, argh
    this set looks pretty good: http://i.imgur.com/210xlYF.jpg

    What's your question exactly? If the SP DSA caps are good?

    sorry I was being vague.
    I'm just looking for some suggestions on ergodox keycap sets. I prefer something printed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 February 2014, 13:48:10
    Quote from: phx on Thu, 06 February 2014, 13:17:57
    I'm just looking for some suggestions on ergodox keycap sets. I prefer something printed.

    I don't know too much about eDox kits but off the top of my head I remember that these GBs have eDox options:

    Penumbra (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51026.0)
    Round 5 from Deskthority (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5#HONEY.2FERGO_.28ErgoDox_kit_.7C_.2449.29)
    Calm Depths (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48214.0)
    Also Hyperfuse had a kit.

    And there's the caps that came from Massdrop:

    SP PBT DCS (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ergodox-keycap?s=ergodox)
    Clear Ergodox Caps (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/clear-ergodox-keycaps?s=ergodox)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lilky on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:12:04
    Hi, I recently purchased an A87 ps2avr and I need to buy a moogle kit to accomodate the old-style 86 key layout. Does anyone know where to purchase blank white thick PBT moogle sets? Preferably cherry profile.

    Also, on the new signature plastics website, which of these spacebars http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/product/spacebar-inventory will fit the cherry profile? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dnny3000 on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:47:44
    Hi. I have a Ducky mini, and would really want to swap the left ALT and WIN.

    How?
    in PN layer I figured out how to do it. As I would like this to be allways I think I should do it by DIP switches, but how to setup the DIP switches? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gh_pp on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:18:27
    Once I commented on a thread, it forever goes into my "Show new replies to your posts." list

    I have clicked the unWATCHed, unNOTIFied buttons at the top inside the thread, but it still won't do anything.

    Is there any way to unsubscribe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:26:27
    Quote from: gh_pp on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:18:27
    Once I commented on a thread, it forever goes into my "Show new replies to your posts." list

    I have clicked the unWATCHed, unNOTIFied buttons at the top inside the thread, but it still won't do anything.

    Is there any way to unsubscribe?

    I dont think so.

    Quote from: lilky on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:12:04
    1) Does anyone know where to purchase blank white thick PBT moogle sets?

    2) Also, on the new signature plastics website, which of these spacebars http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/product/spacebar-inventory will fit the cherry profile? Thanks!

    1) I've never seen a PBT Moogle set. Maybe you can find a Cherry keyboard such as the ones suggested here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1209276#msg1209276).

    2) Anything in SP's inventory that is "DCS" will fit the Cherry Profile. DCS is their Cherry Profile. There's a link in the OP.

    Quote from: dnny3000 on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:47:44
    Hi. I have a Ducky mini, and would really want to swap the left ALT and WIN.

    How?
    in PN layer I figured out how to do it. As I would like this to be allways I think I should do it by DIP switches, but how to setup the DIP switches? 

    Check out the Ducky Mini Manual (http://www.ducky-nordic.com/sept/DM_manual.pdf).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Thu, 06 February 2014, 21:26:35
    Hi guys and gals.

    How can I remove this green parts without taking apart  completely?
    (http://i.imgur.com/wRfCleK.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lilky on Thu, 06 February 2014, 22:21:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:26:27
    Quote from: gh_pp on Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:18:27
    Once I commented on a thread, it forever goes into my "Show new replies to your posts." list

    I have clicked the unWATCHed, unNOTIFied buttons at the top inside the thread, but it still won't do anything.

    Is there any way to unsubscribe?

    I dont think so.

    Quote from: lilky on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:12:04
    1) Does anyone know where to purchase blank white thick PBT moogle sets?

    2) Also, on the new signature plastics website, which of these spacebars http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/product/spacebar-inventory will fit the cherry profile? Thanks!

    1) I've never seen a PBT Moogle set. Maybe you can find a Cherry keyboard such as the ones suggested here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1209276#msg1209276).

    2) Anything in SP's inventory that is "DCS" will fit the Cherry Profile. DCS is their Cherry Profile. There's a link in the OP.

    Quote from: dnny3000 on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:47:44
    Hi. I have a Ducky mini, and would really want to swap the left ALT and WIN.

    How?
    in PN layer I figured out how to do it. As I would like this to be allways I think I should do it by DIP switches, but how to setup the DIP switches? 

    Check out the Ducky Mini Manual (http://www.ducky-nordic.com/sept/DM_manual.pdf).


    Awesome, thanks CPTBadAss! Can you explain what all the different types of spacebars are? For example for 7x spacebars there is BFP, GA, GAL, etc. What are the differences between these?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 07 February 2014, 04:28:14
    how many ohm/watt resistors for LED? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 February 2014, 05:39:04
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 07 February 2014, 04:28:14
    how many ohm/watt resistors for LED? :)

    Use Ohm's Law to figure it out. A discussion that might help is here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50865.0).

    Quote from: lilky on Thu, 06 February 2014, 22:21:11
    Can you explain what all the different types of spacebars are? For example for 7x spacebars there is BFP, GA, GAL, etc. What are the differences between these?

    Different colors (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.0).

    Quote from: hasu on Thu, 06 February 2014, 21:26:35
    How can I remove this green parts without taking apart  completely?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wRfCleK.jpg)


    Hasu I believe those are press fit. You should be able to remove those with a small screwdriver or a pair of needle nose pliers. If they're the same as the white stabilizers on Model Ms, I just put some of those inserts into my 6019284 Kishsaver.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MsYutai on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:14:02
    I'm sure this has been asked somewhere before but...

    What mech kb are easy to mod? I was thinking about trying clears and then maybe switching to ergo-clears-- any suggestions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:14:40
    Quote from: MsYutai on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:14:02
    I'm sure this has been asked somewhere before but...

    What mech kb are easy to mod? I was thinking about trying clears and then maybe switching to ergo-clears-- any suggestions?

    Any PCB mount keyboard allows you to open the switches without desoldering, I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:42:01
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:14:40
    Any PCB mount keyboard allows you to open the switches without desoldering, I think.

    Would recommend a PCB mount board as well. Also get some of Beasts switch tools, they make opening switches very easy!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MsYutai on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:58:39
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:42:01
    Quote from: lcs on Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:14:40
    Any PCB mount keyboard allows you to open the switches without desoldering, I think.

    Would recommend a PCB mount board as well. Also get some of Beasts switch tools, they make opening switches very easy!

    I see. Sounds like there aren't too many PCB mounted boards out there... Thanks for your help!

    Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 01 May 2013, 09:30:56
    As a PCB mount lover I keep a look out for them, sadly there are not a whole lot of them.
    Cherry G80 series are generally PCB mount except for a few models. There are also many rebranded Cherry like Peacock, Schneider, Nixdorf, Highscreen, Scitex, Olivetti, Commodore, Amiga, Compaq, APC, etc, though usually there are only certain times where they had some G80 as a high end option so most of them are not.

    Vortex Poker, Pure, Race.
    Plum 96 and Neo Zelia.
    WEY EK and HK series, though they are not useable without the hard to find proprietary KVM box that is required.
    Alcatel MMK, some of which have a proprietary connection and protocol to be used with their thin terminals.
    GH60 can be if you build it as such.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcg on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:18:35
    PS/2 protocol has a host-to-keyboard to request a specific codeset (F0, according to http://wiki.altium.com/display/ADOH/PS2+Commands) ... if you request code set 3 from a "normal" Model M with a PS/2 connector (1391401 for instance) will it honor that and use code set 3?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Soarer on Fri, 07 February 2014, 20:54:41
    Quote from: bcg on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:18:35
    PS/2 protocol has a host-to-keyboard to request a specific codeset (F0, according to http://wiki.altium.com/display/ADOH/PS2+Commands) ... if you request code set 3 from a "normal" Model M with a PS/2 connector (1391401 for instance) will it honor that and use code set 3?

    Yes (http://www.seasip.info/VintagePC/ibm_1391406.html).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 February 2014, 20:56:16
    Quote from: Soarer on Fri, 07 February 2014, 20:54:41
    Quote from: bcg on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:18:35
    PS/2 protocol has a host-to-keyboard to request a specific codeset (F0, according to http://wiki.altium.com/display/ADOH/PS2+Commands) ... if you request code set 3 from a "normal" Model M with a PS/2 connector (1391401 for instance) will it honor that and use code set 3?

    Yes (http://www.seasip.info/VintagePC/ibm_1391406.html).

    Thank you Soarer! Time for me to read up :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcg on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:34:17
    Quote from: Soarer on Fri, 07 February 2014, 20:54:41
    Quote from: bcg on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:18:35
    PS/2 protocol has a host-to-keyboard to request a specific codeset (F0, according to http://wiki.altium.com/display/ADOH/PS2+Commands) ... if you request code set 3 from a "normal" Model M with a PS/2 connector (1391401 for instance) will it honor that and use code set 3?

    Yes (http://www.seasip.info/VintagePC/ibm_1391406.html).

    Thanks Soarer that was exactly what I was looking for :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Comment on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:37:53
    Not sure if this was asked yet but I couldnt find it anywhere. Does anyone know how to make your forum picture a gif?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:38:33
    Quote from: Comment on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:37:53
    Not sure if this was asked yet but I couldnt find it anywhere. Does anyone know how to make your forum picture a gif?

    Just upload the file but make sure its small enough
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Comment on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:40:17
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:38:33
    Quote from: Comment on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:37:53
    Not sure if this was asked yet but I couldnt find it anywhere. Does anyone know how to make your forum picture a gif?

    Just upload the file but make sure its small enough
    Wow Pac, nice 40 second response! Can I size down through imgur?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:48:30
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:38:33
    Quote from: Comment on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:37:53
    Not sure if this was asked yet but I couldnt find it anywhere. Does anyone know how to make your forum picture a gif?

    Just upload the file but make sure its small enough

    Some more detailed information here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33307.msg813661#msg813661). You can resize in Paint.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: augustoitapoa on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:55:07
    Anyone knows if the Rapid-I will be available with an aluminum case?

     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 February 2014, 22:02:57
    Quote from: augustoitapoa on Fri, 07 February 2014, 21:55:07
    Anyone knows if the Rapid-I will be available with an aluminum case?

    Probably not. There's not many stock aluminum cases. There will probably be aftermarket stuff though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Fri, 07 February 2014, 23:12:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 February 2014, 05:39:04
    Quote from: hasu on Thu, 06 February 2014, 21:26:35
    How can I remove this green parts without taking apart  completely?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wRfCleK.jpg)


    Hasu I believe those are press fit. You should be able to remove those with a small screwdriver or a pair of needle nose pliers. If they're the same as the white stabilizers on Model Ms, I just put some of those inserts into my 6019284 Kishsaver.

    Thank you CPTBadAss
    Unfortunately it didn't work for me or I didn't understand what you mentioned correctly. Stupidly I had to remove all plastic revets and take apart thoroughly to get only those parts.

    Yes, that is exactly what I want to do. I sacrificed  a poor M to the beast :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 February 2014, 23:13:43
    Quote from: hasu on Fri, 07 February 2014, 23:12:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 February 2014, 05:39:04
    Quote from: hasu on Thu, 06 February 2014, 21:26:35
    How can I remove this green parts without taking apart  completely?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wRfCleK.jpg)


    Hasu I believe those are press fit. You should be able to remove those with a small screwdriver or a pair of needle nose pliers. If they're the same as the white stabilizers on Model Ms, I just put some of those inserts into my 6019284 Kishsaver.

    Thank you CPTBadAss
    Unfortunately it didn't work for me or I didn't understand what you mentioned correctly. Stupidly I had to remove all plastic revets and take apart thoroughly to get only those parts.

    Yes, that is exactly what I want to do. I sacrificed  a poor M to the beast :D

    Ugh sorry you had to go through the effort :( . I shouldve posted a picture or a video.

    Edit: For future reference

    (http://i.imgur.com/Btdeeuk.jpg)

    Unless those green inserts were a different shape, which I don't think they were, you can just pull them out of the barrel plate with some needle nose pliers. You'll have to pull pretty hard. Tested this with my 6019284 and SSK. SSK is shown in the potato picture above.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 08 February 2014, 01:07:59
    What tool to test switches still works or not? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 08 February 2014, 01:55:13
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 08 February 2014, 01:07:59
    What tool to test switches still works or not? :)

    Solder it into a keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 08 February 2014, 06:39:36

    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 08 February 2014, 01:07:59
    What tool to test switches still works or not? :)

    You can use a multimeter to test continuity.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 08 February 2014, 09:04:58
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Sat, 08 February 2014, 06:39:36

    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 08 February 2014, 01:07:59
    What tool to test switches still works or not? :)

    You can use a multimeter to test continuity.

    Or if it's still soldered on your keyboard, you can use AquaKeyTest.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sun, 09 February 2014, 07:32:57
    Hey, quick question
    where can i find wrist rest for 60% size keyboard?
    preferably ship to EU

    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 09 February 2014, 07:42:10

    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 09 February 2014, 07:32:57
    Hey, quick question
    where can i find wrist rest for 60% size keyboard?
    preferably ship to EU

    thanks

    There's a gentleman with a thread in GH classifieds that makes custom leather wrist rests.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:27:17
    where i can get cherry stabs plate mount?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:28:51
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:27:17
    where i can get cherry stabs plate mount?

    That is in the FAQ.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:09:12
    What is the color code of the grey and beige in the original cherry beige/grey set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:16:47
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 09 February 2014, 19:09:12
    What is the color code of the grey and beige in the original cherry beige/grey set?

    I think it's U9 and L9 in this picture (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48798.msg1213911#msg1213911).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 10 February 2014, 07:36:12
    for handwired What  i can glue diode to switch with super glue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 February 2014, 07:46:56
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 February 2014, 07:36:12
    for handwired What  i can glue diode to switch with super glue?

    No, bad idea. Put solder on the tip of your iron or on the switch pin and the diode.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 February 2014, 07:59:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 10 February 2014, 07:46:56
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 February 2014, 07:36:12
    for handwired What  i can glue diode to switch with super glue?

    No, bad idea. Put solder on the tip of your iron or on the switch pin and the diode.

    Glue isn't electrically conductive so the electrical current wouldn't flow...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 February 2014, 08:18:42
    I meant putting solder on the ends as a tip on how to connect the two. If you put solder on both ends and heat it up again when you get them next to each other you should get a good connection.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 February 2014, 16:30:33
    Does anyone with a Ducky Shine board notice a high pitched buzz/hum when your backlights are turned on?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 10 February 2014, 16:33:45
    Have not noticed that with either of my Shine IIs, and I'm normally sensitive to those sorts of sounds (and my rooms are very quiet).   My larger monitors are definitely making a high-pitched faint whistling sound though :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 February 2014, 16:43:40
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Mon, 10 February 2014, 16:33:45
    Have not noticed that with either of my Shine IIs, and I'm normally sensitive to those sorts of sounds (and my rooms are very quiet).   My larger monitors are definitely making a high-pitched faint whistling sound though :(

    Hmm ok...I never use the backlighting and just turned it on to check something and noticed it, oh well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 February 2014, 09:04:09
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 February 2014, 16:30:33
    Does anyone with a Ducky Shine board notice a high pitched buzz/hum when your backlights are turned on?

    I have a Team OMG (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52368.0) keyboard in my apartment, which I think is a special edition Shine II or Shine. It doesn't create any noise when the backlight is on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 February 2014, 09:20:22
    It gets ever weirder. I thought maybe it was the aftermarket cable so I switched to the stock USB cable and tried different USB ports. Same high pitched noise but if I turn the brightness down the 'volume' of the noise goes down as well  ???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 11 February 2014, 13:52:59
    Can sby tell me what the bug is in GH60 Rev. B?  I've searched but there's hundreds of non-specific references to it so it's a needle in a haystack.  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 February 2014, 13:57:16
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Tue, 11 February 2014, 13:52:59
    Can sby tell me what the bug is in GH60 Rev. B?  I've searched but there's hundreds of non-specific references to it so it's a needle in a haystack.  :-[

    See the quote below (from the GH60 prototyping thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg1052949#msg1052949)):

    Quote from: komar007 on Tue, 24 September 2013, 10:34:27
    Quote from: Kdash on Tue, 24 September 2013, 10:24:44
    Hi komar, My friend wired the leds himself, but he found the blacklight dose not work and he also found the lcol14 connected with the GPIO2  in your PCB design. so he can't simply wired the leds, he cut the connection, the blacklight works fine..  is it a bug or meaning other things?

    Unfortunately, this is an error:(
    It will be fixed in the final revision. For rev. B, either Fn led will work or the last column of backlight:/
    Cutting is not necessary with correct handling in the firmware.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 11 February 2014, 14:11:50
    @CPTBadAss, thank you.

    I had actually seen that post but I don't really understand it.  Does he mean the backlighting doesn't work for some part of backlighting the whole board, or is it the backlighting for WASD or bottom arrow keys??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 February 2014, 14:17:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 February 2014, 13:57:16
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Tue, 11 February 2014, 13:52:59
    Can sby tell me what the bug is in GH60 Rev. B?  I've searched but there's hundreds of non-specific references to it so it's a needle in a haystack.  :-[

    See the quote below (from the GH60 prototyping thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg1052949#msg1052949)):

    Quote from: komar007 on Tue, 24 September 2013, 10:34:27
    Quote from: Kdash on Tue, 24 September 2013, 10:24:44
    Hi komar, My friend wired the leds himself, but he found the blacklight dose not work and he also found the lcol14 connected with the GPIO2  in your PCB design. so he can't simply wired the leds, he cut the connection, the blacklight works fine..  is it a bug or meaning other things?

    Unfortunately, this is an error:(
    It will be fixed in the final revision. For rev. B, either Fn led will work or the last column of backlight:/
    Cutting is not necessary with correct handling in the firmware.

    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Tue, 11 February 2014, 14:11:50
    I had actually seen that post but I don't really understand it.

    Looks like when the person handwired the LEDs, they discovered an error on the PCB between the lcol14 and PIO2 trace locations. They shouldn't have been linked together. That's the error on the PCB. At the moment, there's no built in backlighting. You'll have to wire it up yourself or wait for the LED add-on module.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 11 February 2014, 14:27:19
    @spamray: I can't notice any noise coming from my shine 2, leds on or off. :O Then again maybe I am a little deaf from going to concerts and riding motorcycles in my wild days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:41:33
    On a Poker 2, is there a way to swap the Pn and Right Control keys? I don't believe there is, but just double-checking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:43:25

    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:41:33
    On a Poker 2, is there a way to swap the Pn and Right Control keys? I don't believe there is, but just double-checking.

    There is not, unfortunately. This is one of the things that separates the Poker 2 from a fully programmable board like the GH60.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:45:56
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:43:25

    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 11 February 2014, 18:41:33
    On a Poker 2, is there a way to swap the Pn and Right Control keys? I don't believe there is, but just double-checking.

    There is not, unfortunately. This is one of the things that separates the Poker 2 from a fully programmable board like the GH60.

    Thanks for confirming.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhineasRex on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:10:57
    What profile are the keycaps sold at KeyPop.net?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:12:12
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:10:57
    What profile are the keycaps sold at KeyPop.net?
    Which ones exactly?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:23:15
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:12:12
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:10:57
    What profile are the keycaps sold at KeyPop.net?
    Which ones exactly?

    If he's talking about the full keycap sets, the single colored Tai Hao sets are OEM profile and the Bumblebee and Coffee sets are Signature Plastics DCS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhineasRex on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:48:13
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:12:12
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:10:57
    What profile are the keycaps sold at KeyPop.net?
    Which ones exactly?
    The novelty keys, in particular: http://www.keypop.net/product/8-bit-heart-enter-keycap
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:51:54
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:48:13
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:12:12
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:10:57
    What profile are the keycaps sold at KeyPop.net?
    Which ones exactly?
    The novelty keys, in particular: http://www.keypop.net/product/8-bit-heart-enter-keycap

    Manufactured in USA almost certainly means it's an SP product, which means DCS profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 12 February 2014, 21:27:29
    Shape and thickness of their caps suggests DCS keycaps by SP too :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 00:26:04
    So I was reading the page at this kickstarter page (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70308014/kings-assembly-a-computer-mouse-full-of-awesome) and came across this.

    "holding the Shift key on one keyboard won't capitalize the letters of the other keyboard"

    This does work between my Razer Orbweaver, my Das keyboard (costar built), and my Naga Epic. 

    Is this firmware issues?  Or do I just have something goofy going on in my setup or is it in the Synapse software?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 02:25:09
    Does the green case here look like a custom job, or does/did someone sell it? (Maybe from a GB?)  That's the Bluegreen keyset. Any info on the source of the case or the board would be appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 13 February 2014, 07:00:19
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 02:25:09
    Does the green case here look like a custom job, or does/did someone sell it? (Maybe from a GB?)  That's the Bluegreen keyset. Any info on the source of the case or the board would be appreciated.


    Was there supposed to be a link? or a photo?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 07:50:58
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 00:26:04
    So I was reading the page at this kickstarter page (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70308014/kings-assembly-a-computer-mouse-full-of-awesome) and came across this.

    "holding the Shift key on one keyboard won't capitalize the letters of the other keyboard"

    This does work between my Razer Orbweaver, my Das keyboard (costar built), and my Naga Epic. 

    Is this firmware issues?  Or do I just have something goofy going on in my setup or is it in the Synapse software?

    The way I'm reading that is that they have two separate keyboards that are interacting with their proprietary software.

    I'm not sure what you're asking though.

    You're saying that holding the shift is capitalizing letters when you hit letters on the Orbweaver or Epic? Isn't that because your computer is handling the Orbweaver and Keyboard as one input device? Same thing happens when you have 2 keyboards plugged in. you hit caps lock on one and both caps locks turn on.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 02:25:09
    Does the green case here look like a custom job, or does/did someone sell it? (Maybe from a GB?)  That's the Bluegreen keyset. Any info on the source of the case or the board would be appreciated.

    Like Spamray said, I think you missed a link/photo in your post.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 09:01:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 07:50:58
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 00:26:04
    So I was reading the page at this kickstarter page (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70308014/kings-assembly-a-computer-mouse-full-of-awesome) and came across this.

    "holding the Shift key on one keyboard won't capitalize the letters of the other keyboard"

    This does work between my Razer Orbweaver, my Das keyboard (costar built), and my Naga Epic. 

    Is this firmware issues?  Or do I just have something goofy going on in my setup or is it in the Synapse software?

    The way I'm reading that is that they have two separate keyboards that are interacting with their proprietary software.

    I'm not sure what you're asking though.

    You're saying that holding the shift is capitalizing letters when you hit letters on the Orbweaver or Epic? Isn't that because your computer is handling the Orbweaver and Keyboard as one input device? Same thing happens when you have 2 keyboards plugged in. you hit caps lock on one and both caps locks turn on.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 02:25:09
    Does the green case here look like a custom job, or does/did someone sell it? (Maybe from a GB?)  That's the Bluegreen keyset. Any info on the source of the case or the board would be appreciated.

    Like Spamray said, I think you missed a link/photo in your post.

    I was wondering why it would work on my setup when on the kickstarter page they say it won't work.  I will try setting a key on my orbweaver as capslock and see if the light on the Das comes on.  But shift control and alt all work across both devices.  Was wondering whey they say it doesn't work. 

    Edit:  With a key on my Orbweaver set to CapsLock, it will trigger the light on my Das.  But like I said on the kickstarter page it shouldn't work this way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 09:07:58
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 09:01:27
    I was wondering why it would work on my setup when on the kickstarter page they say it won't work.  I will try setting a key on my orbweaver as capslock and see if the light on the Das comes on.  But shift control and alt all work across both devices.  Was wondering whey they say it doesn't work. 

    Edit:  With a key on my Orbweaver set to CapsLock, it will trigger the light on my Das.  But like I said on the kickstarter page it shouldn't work this way.

    I honestly don't know.

    Edit: Maybe because your Orbweaver isn't read as a keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:19:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 07:50:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 02:25:09
    Does the green case here look like a custom job, or does/did someone sell it? (Maybe from a GB?)  That's the Bluegreen keyset. Any info on the source of the case or the board would be appreciated.

    Like Spamray said, I think you missed a link/photo in your post.

    Whoops! http://i.imgur.com/PmJoVoN.png
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:41:01
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:19:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 07:50:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 02:25:09
    Does the green case here look like a custom job, or does/did someone sell it? (Maybe from a GB?)  That's the Bluegreen keyset. Any info on the source of the case or the board would be appreciated.

    Like Spamray said, I think you missed a link/photo in your post.

    Whoops! http://i.imgur.com/PmJoVoN.png

    Looks like a custom painted QFR.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:53:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:41:01
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:19:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 07:50:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 02:25:09
    Does the green case here look like a custom job, or does/did someone sell it? (Maybe from a GB?)  That's the Bluegreen keyset. Any info on the source of the case or the board would be appreciated.

    Like Spamray said, I think you missed a link/photo in your post.

    Whoops! http://i.imgur.com/PmJoVoN.png

    Looks like a custom painted QFR.

    Ah, I think you are correct, sir. Good call!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 12:05:03
    I have seen a few pics of alps caps on a calculator.  Is there any that are cherry switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 12:06:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 12:05:03
    I have seen a few pics of alps caps on a calculator.  Is there any that are cherry switches?

    I've never seen a Cherry version of the Alpsulator (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52066.msg1150374#msg1150374). It's both a numpad and a calculator, just FYI.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 13 February 2014, 12:12:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 12:06:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 12:05:03
    I have seen a few pics of alps caps on a calculator.  Is there any that are cherry switches?

    I've never seen a Cherry version of the Alpsulator (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52066.msg1150374#msg1150374). It's both a numpad and a calculator, just FYI.

    maybe that'll be techkeys next big thing :D the mxulator
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Thu, 13 February 2014, 20:03:00
    little question
    on Poker 2, both tilde and esc function are on same key, is there any alternative to use them separately?
    its really annoying for gaming or browsing
    thanks
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 13 February 2014, 20:03:48
    For a KMAC2, how do you program the LEDs? Is there an option of turning them on/off?

    Thanks.

    -Edit

    Found my answer here:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30875.150
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 20:06:26
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 13 February 2014, 20:03:00
    little question
    on Poker 2, both tilde and esc function are on same key, is there any alternative to use them separately?
    its really annoying for gaming or browsing
    thanks

    One of the DIP switches converts the right control to tilde. Check your instruction manual.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Thu, 13 February 2014, 20:19:18
    thanks, i dont have Poker 2 yet due to the stock (most of Poker are out of stock)
    any chance to remap tilde through DIP switches  on right shift instead of right control?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 21:02:51
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 13 February 2014, 20:19:18
    thanks, i dont have Poker 2 yet due to the stock (most of Poker are out of stock)
    any chance to remap tilde through DIP switches  on right shift instead of right control?

    i don't know but you can check the manual here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_VV).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 21:05:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 February 2014, 21:02:51
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 13 February 2014, 20:19:18
    thanks, i dont have Poker 2 yet due to the stock (most of Poker are out of stock)
    any chance to remap tilde through DIP switches  on right shift instead of right control?

    i don't know but you can check the manual here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_VV).

    No, there is no DIP switch setting to do that, but you should be able to accomplish that using key remapping software such as Autohotkey or KeyRemap4MacBook. Also, I believe Qtan's store has some Pokers in stock, as does MechanicalKeyboards.com (backlit only).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 21:47:39
    Is there any functional difference between left and right versions of modifier keys?  Or is it mostly to just have said keys available to each hand?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Thu, 13 February 2014, 23:22:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 February 2014, 21:47:39
    Is there any functional difference between left and right versions of modifier keys?  Or is it mostly to just have said keys available to each hand?
    i ordered at first on Banggood but i lost 2 weeks due to their unavailability, they didnt have in mx-red and must expect at least 2 weeks more
    then i just came to buy from Qtan with express shipping mode, it costs more (77 eur from BG, 96 eur from Qtan)
    i sold my KBT Pure backlit but i didnt know Poker/Pure were touch purchases due their unavailability
    from Europe, we have only Pure Pro but i d rather pick ANSI layout over ISO plus PRO ISO layout looks weird imo (small spacebar, very tiny backspace, currently typing on some ruber **** keyboard with tiny backspace, what a bull**** really)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:47:55
    Sorry if it's common knowledge, but is it normal for used MX Blues to sound less snappy and more like they have a loose spring in them?  Difficult to explain.  I've got a batch of well-used MX Blues, and they all click, but the click is not crisp and snappy like in new or relatively new Blues I've tried.  No lubrication to dampen anything.  Curious if that's normal for aging Blues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:53:26
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:47:55
    Sorry if it's common knowledge, but is it normal for used MX Blues to sound less snappy and more like they have a loose spring in them?  Difficult to explain.  I've got a batch of well-used MX Blues, and they all click, but the click is not crisp and snappy like in new or relatively new Blues I've tried.  No lubrication to dampen anything.  Curious if that's normal for aging Blues.

    The blues in my Dolch are slightly less snappy than the other blues I've used.  Might be due to aging, might just be in my head.  But it seems to make sense that as they age and get worn they would be less snappy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:54:50
    Cool :)  I kinda like them like that!  They sound a tad more like MX Whites.  I'm seriously considering using them now instead of Clears for my LightSaver.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:55:49
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:54:50
    Cool :)  I kinda like them like that!  They sound a tad more like MX Whites.  I'm seriously considering using them now instead of Clears for my LightSaver.

    Should just get some Whites instead!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 01:08:47
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:55:49
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:54:50
    Cool :)  I kinda like them like that!  They sound a tad more like MX Whites.  I'm seriously considering using them now instead of Clears for my LightSaver.

    Should just get some Whites instead!

    I don't see a reason to.  I've tried Whites on someone else's board, and they weren't all that different.  These Blues are already quieter than normal.  And Whites are difficult to get / expensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 February 2014, 01:11:30
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 01:08:47
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:55:49
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:54:50
    Cool :)  I kinda like them like that!  They sound a tad more like MX Whites.  I'm seriously considering using them now instead of Clears for my LightSaver.

    Should just get some Whites instead!

    I don't see a reason to.  I've tried Whites on someone else's board, and they weren't all that different.  These Blues are already quieter than normal.  And Whites are difficult to get / expensive.

    Whites are hugely different from any blues I've tried, so either those blues are different from the worn blues I was referring to or you just really don't want to get whites.  :P  But yes, they are difficult to get and can be more expensive, unfortunately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 01:22:15
    Well, I owned a Filco with Blues until not too long ago--those Blues got turned into Jailhouse Blues--and I still have a CM switch tester with a new Blue in it.  All were much louder / more crisp than these Blues from a used Cherry G80-1800.  I've tried Whites with 62g springs in someone else's Phantom, and they were like lightly dampened normal Blues in feel and sound.  Some sounded almost like normal Blues, as the click is so non-uniform in Whites.  These used Blues are more dampened than other Blues I've owned, which is why I asked here.  I've even cleaned the insides thoroughly to make sure it's not any dirt (they were clean to start with) or lubricant causing the difference in sound.

    Something I noticed is that the translucent white stem bottoms in these Blues are more crisp-sounding / more brittle and more translucent? than Blues that I used for o-ring Jailhouse mod.  Perhaps different materials.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 07:41:24
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 14 February 2014, 00:47:55
    Sorry if it's common knowledge, but is it normal for used MX Blues to sound less snappy and more like they have a loose spring in them?  Difficult to explain.  I've got a batch of well-used MX Blues, and they all click, but the click is not crisp and snappy like in new or relatively new Blues I've tried.  No lubrication to dampen anything.  Curious if that's normal for aging Blues.

    The older/well used Blues I've tried in a Dolch PAC keyboard were very dull and non snappy like you're describing. I think it's wear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 07:48:12
    Is there any English documentation for the ps2avrU firmware (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU)? (Sprit's PCBs ship with this firmware.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 07:49:52
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 07:48:12
    Is there any English documentation for the ps2avrU firmware (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU)? (Sprit's PCBs ship with this firmware.)

    I believe that Sifo and The_Beast have experience with that firmware. You can PM them or I can later.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 08:02:07

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 07:49:52
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 07:48:12
    Is there any English documentation for the ps2avrU firmware (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU)? (Sprit's PCBs ship with this firmware.)

    I believe that Sifo and The_Beast have experience with that firmware. You can PM them or I can later.

    Thanks CPT. I'll PM them later and write up here what I learn.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:01:49
    Current state of production as of 3/21/14 (From swill's post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg1275703#msg1275703)):

    The GH60 OP now has a status update that I'll quote:

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 02:40:01
    Current status of the Group Buy
    PCBs: In production
    Plates: In production
    Switches: On hand
    Stabilizers: Looking for source...
    Assembly: to be completed by tjcaustin and komar007 once all components are received
    Shipping: Not started

    LED Module: In komar's hands for testing

    If you want more info, quotes, or some details you can hit that more button.

    More
    I posted this in the OP as well but there is now an estimated production date for the GH60s. I know a lot of people are wondering about GH60 production:

    Quote from: komar007 on Fri, 14 February 2014, 05:14:25
    The current ETA on the PCB and SMD assembly is "around March 28". Unfortunately they have to wait for atmega32u4 from their supplier.

    If you are a bit newer and wondering if you can get a GH60 now, wait for them to ship or try and find someone who doesn't want their order. I know there are a lot of people who will be selling. Also, it is rumored that MechanicalKeyboards.com will carry these after the GB ships.

    I don't know what's going on with the plates. I will post more when I know. The good news just keeps coming. Here's an update with the GH60 plates:

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:59:21
    Small update:

    Remember this snarky reply?

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:56:48
    Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:03:20
    I agree with Glod. There is no reason to wait for WFD to find time to do this. Waiting now, could turn this into a huge cluster fuk.. :(

    Now at the same time, I think everyone one involved has done what they could to keep this rolling. I just see lots of other GBs going south and
    people are starting to get gun shy about things going south... :/

    Oh good, so will it be you or Glod who volunteers to take over the plate production??

    Well, ApocalypseMaow somehow looked past my snide remark, stepped up his game, and volunteered to help with getting plates cut at a local laser cutter. He has received a quote back from at least one place, which falls within our budget for what we charged GB participants for the plates. So he will be having a sample made soon, and if all goes well, we could have plates in production in the near future. Now, this does hinge on getting a quality sample from the laser cutter, so nothing is set in stone (steel?) yet, but things are in motion already.

    Edit 2/18/14: I just saw this post about the LED module -

    Quote from: komar007 on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:40:54
    The led module (when it's designed and ready to be sold or group-bought) should be usable in the following circumstances:
    1. GH60 rev. C - no problems at all if there is no metal plate; if there is a metal plate, then the pin headers have to be installed before mounting the plate, and the module has to be soldered to the pins after the metal plate
    2. GH60 rev. B prototype - same as rev. C (the error on B will *probably* not prevent this from working)
    3. GH60 rev. A prototype - if holes are drilled for the LEDs and the LED matrix is hand-wired to the module; except for this, the power has to be taken from the motherboard and connected to the module, and there will be no communication between the board and the module, so special firmware will be necessary and the module will not be interactive; and of course, it will not be mounted on pins to the board, it'll have to be dropped into the case, under the board
    4. any other keyboard - similar to GH60 rev. A - the module will need power, 1-2 wires for communication (setting which LEDs should be on) and 14 columns and 5 rows of LEDs.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:03:04
    I would classify the LED backlighting add-on module as Vaporware™ at the moment. I don't think komar has had time to work on its design just yet. :)

    But to answer the question, yes, only those 11 LEDs will function with a "stock" GH60 PCB (final revision).

    Yo son, we got updates on the plates.

    Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 20 February 2014, 22:37:12
    Yo! I'm working on getting a sample plate to JD. Hopefully everything will be to spec regarding cut and finish.
    If Captain JD approves, I'm told we can have everything cut in two weeks. Now all those things still need to be
    shipped and all that. Anywho! We're getting closer

    So keep your pants on... for now.

    Timeline for plates:

    Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 03 March 2014, 09:29:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 03 March 2014, 06:55:43

    Quote from: tricheboars on Mon, 03 March 2014, 01:32:06
    so what is the verdict on the plate jd? do we have the switches? stabs? oh man. i am pumped.

    I'm still waiting on the sample plate to arrive. I believe there is some lead time involved in having it made.
    I gave the word on getting the plate made. I was told 2 weeks lead time, but I'm sure that is to cover
    the company if anything goes wrong on their end. As soon as I get the plate in hand it will be shipped to JD
    for testing and inspection. If everything checks out, the lead time on finishing all 518 plates is two weeks.

    TLDR about a month on plates!

    Pictures of Sample Plates:

    Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:37:30
    Alright dudes! This is the sample plate with the 1800 plate from Beast and a phantom plate (beast had those made as well?).

    Tell us what you think.

    Left: Phantom
    Top right: GH60
    Bottom right: 1800
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/dNTHjRN.jpg)

    Left: GH60
    Top right: 1800
    Bottom right: Phantom
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/YVL1mGx.jpg)

    Back of plates. The GH plate has no burs to clean off!  :thumb:
    Top right: GH60
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kzbjaXt.jpg)


    PCB Color:

    Quote from: yicaoyimu on Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:24:36
    I have not been following this giant thread. Can someone tell me what the color of the PCB will be? Thanks!

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:58:34
    White

    Update on PCBs, LED module, and switches:

    Quote from: komar007 on Sat, 29 March 2014, 14:08:10
    Okay guys, so a status update:
    The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.
    The plates have been ordered, and they should take another week to finish production, according to ApocalypseMaow.

    Since I'm responsible for everything that isn't USA or Canada, here's an extra status update for those people:
    I thought I'd manage to ship the plateless orders before the ones with plates, but I won't. This has to do with our European taxes, and my beautiful country's taxes in particular. I will wait until the plates are ready to be shipped to me and then ask our PCB fab to send the boards, so that they come more or less at the same time. I won't go into details, but this is because I'd have to pay extra tax if my whole process takes too long.

    Quote from: komar007 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 08:54:06
    As for LED backlighting, you can solder all the LEDs according to the switch legend, this means anode on the left side and it should work after attaching the LED module. Just remember, if you have a plate, solder 5 standard 100mil 5-pin headers before you solder the switches and mount the plate, or you won't manage to solder the extension module later.

    Oh, and BTW, the LED module is nearly finished.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:17:00
    Guys, don't worry about the switches. If you ordered and paid for switches, we have them.

    Quote from: komar007 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 08:54:06
    FYI, here's the list of people (DT usernames) who ordered switches from 7bit and had them shipped to us:
    0190|Strelok
    0208|bugsaint
    0242|n0rvig
    0247|HoffmanMyster
    0248|numerus
    0249|Affect656
    0254|ramshao
    0258|LechnerDE
    0259|sriak
    0260|gruener_Salat
    0262|gomez18
    0263|mark0331
    0264|Viett
    0265|Laladila
    0267|gtarget
    0269|LordBadger
    0274|midg1t
    0276|Niall
    0281|snoozeymon
    0282|mauri
    0284|tradet
    0286|bear95
    0291|myndzi
    0294|kdash4
    0299|annerick
    0304|PixelScript
    0317|nebo
    0337|nil
    0352|Robstero
    I already have those which will ship from Poland, jdcarpe should also have his part (or they'll get to him soon)

    PCBs HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE US/CANADA ORDERS ARE BEING SHIPPED IF YOU ARE IN CONUS/CANADA.

    Update 4/18/14 - LED module is in komar's hands for testing

    Quote from: komar007 on Wed, 16 April 2014, 06:43:49
    Got this little teaser today:

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33130.0;attach=61113;image)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:17:30
    So I got a little confused by this post:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54757.msg1227686#msg1227686

    Now I'm wondering, do I have to get new stabs or switches if I want to put a plate on my Poker X?  It sounds like a universal ansi plate just uses the stabs already on there; what about switches?  What about a Poker layout plate?  See I'm really confused and frankly a bit of a dumbass.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:20:39
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:17:30
    So I got a little confused by this post:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54757.msg1227686#msg1227686

    Now I'm wondering, do I have to get new stabs or switches if I want to put a plate on my Poker X?  It sounds like a universal ansi plate just uses the stabs already on there; what about switches?  What about a Poker layout plate?  See I'm really confused and frankly a bit of a dumbass.

    This buy is just the plate.

    I believe the Universal vs Poker layout is based on the layouts in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828888#msg828888). I think it's best for you to get a Poker X layout.

    Nothing in the plate buy has stabilizers or switches. However, you should be able to reuse the stabs and switches on your Poker. The stabilizers and switches you can use are dependent on if the PCB supports them or not.

    Edited for clarity.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:38:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:20:39
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:17:30
    So I got a little confused by this post:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54757.msg1227686#msg1227686

    Now I'm wondering, do I have to get new stabs or switches if I want to put a plate on my Poker X?  It sounds like a universal ansi plate just uses the stabs already on there; what about switches?  What about a Poker layout plate?  See I'm really confused and frankly a bit of a dumbass.

    This buy is just the plate.

    I believe the Universal vs Poker layout is based on the layouts in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828888#msg828888). I think it's best for you to get a Poker X layout.

    Nothing in the plate buy has stabilizers or switches. However, you should be able to reuse the stabs and switches on your Poker. The stabilizers and switches you can use are dependent on if the PCB supports them or not.

    Edited for clarity.

    OK, got it.  I can reuse my switches or stabs from my existing pcb-mounted poker on either of those plates, but it's better to use the Poker layout plate than the Ansi Universal layout plate.  Is that right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:40:38
    Yes, you should be able to reuse your parts. And yes, you should use the Poker layout because that's what the Poker PCB supports. The universal is better for the GH60 which has multiple layout options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:45:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:40:38
    Yes, you should be able to reuse your parts. And yes, you should use the Poker layout because that's what the Poker PCB supports. The universal is better for the GH60 which has multiple layout options.

    Thanks, I really appreciate the help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JPG on Fri, 14 February 2014, 14:57:47
    Hey anyone know what switch is used in this keyboard (IBM POS keyboard)?


    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 15:00:35
    Quote from: JPG on Fri, 14 February 2014, 14:57:47
    Hey anyone know what switch is used in this keyboard (IBM POS keyboard)?


    (Attachment Link)

    Parak tells me it's buckling rubber sleeve (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Buckling_rubber_sleeve).

    <CPTBadAss> IBM Heads: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1227923#msg1227923
    <sadbot> Title: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP) (at geekhack.org)
    <CPTBadAss> what switch is in this?
    <Parak> buckling rubber sleeve
    <CPTBadAss> thank you parak
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 February 2014, 16:22:53
    What do most people use for a spacebar (since cherry spacebars have offset center stems) when using white on black cherry double shots?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 February 2014, 16:41:56
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 February 2014, 16:22:53
    What do most people use for a spacebar (since cherry spacebars have offset center stems) when using white on black cherry double shots?

    SP DCS-profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 16:52:04
    I didn't know that Cherry spacebars were off-center. Is there an image that shows the difference? Are there common fixes on e.g. modern custom PCB's?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Fri, 14 February 2014, 16:57:09
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 16:52:04
    I didn't know that Cherry spacebars were off-center. Is there an image that shows the difference? Are there common fixes on e.g. modern custom PCB's?

    Here's a pretty obvious off-center space bar on a Cherry G80-3000 board:
    (http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3958/g80300020101003.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 14 February 2014, 17:13:04
    Cherry off center spacing is weird. My 11900 has an off center 6x spacebar, and even when I found a 6x bar from a different board that had center and off center placings, it still didn't match up :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 17:15:08
    Are 7x Cherry spacebars similarly off-center?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 February 2014, 17:16:09
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 16:52:04
    I didn't know that Cherry spacebars were off-center. Is there an image that shows the difference? Are there common fixes on e.g. modern custom PCB's?

    You can try stem modding it. I've also used the sticky tack used to hang posters to adjust spacebars. But that would mean that the stem that goes with the switch needs to be centered right.

    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 17:15:08
    Are 7x Cherry spacebars similarly off-center?

    I think so. Check this out (from the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions#6.25_units_.28118mm_wide.2C_3_mounts.2C_no_centre_mount.29))

    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/1/12/G80_3000WIN_aspacebar.jpg/600px-G80_3000WIN_aspacebar.jpg)

    Quote
    6.25 units space bar with mounts for Cherry and Filco. Below are the Cherry G80-3000 stabilisers.

    So the Filco is centered and Cherry is off-centered it seems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 14 February 2014, 17:18:24
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 17:15:08
    Are 7x Cherry spacebars similarly off-center?

    I read somewhere here that cherry 7x is centered
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 14 February 2014, 18:57:53
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 17:15:08
    Are 7x Cherry spacebars similarly off-center?
    7x Cherry is definitely centered.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 15 February 2014, 01:04:46
    Anybody know if this is a hall effect or no?

    (http://i.imgur.com/ZlrvhNj.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 February 2014, 02:55:53
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 15 February 2014, 01:04:46
    Anybody know if this is a hall effect or no?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ZlrvhNj.jpg)


    It's hard to tell from that picture but hall effect isn't a bad guess in my opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 15 February 2014, 06:13:49
    what is shape DSA is distrub?especially modiefer like backspace looks vertical
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 February 2014, 07:04:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 15 February 2014, 06:13:49
    what is shape DSA is distrub?especially modiefer like backspace looks vertical

    Check out the pictures of the DSA caps in this review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49485.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Sat, 15 February 2014, 16:27:23
    Is it hard to find Filco ISO 88 keys (TKL) with MX Red ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 15 February 2014, 16:39:27
    Quote from: Norz on Sat, 15 February 2014, 16:27:23
    Is it hard to find Filco ISO 88 keys (TKL) with MX Red ?

    Keyboardco

    http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-filco-ninja-majestouch-2-tenkeyless-nkr-soft-linear-action-keyboard.asp (http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-filco-ninja-majestouch-2-tenkeyless-nkr-soft-linear-action-keyboard.asp)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Sat, 15 February 2014, 16:46:49
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 15 February 2014, 16:39:27
    Quote from: Norz on Sat, 15 February 2014, 16:27:23
    Is it hard to find Filco ISO 88 keys (TKL) with MX Red ?

    Keyboardco

    http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-filco-ninja-majestouch-2-tenkeyless-nkr-soft-linear-action-keyboard.asp (http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-filco-ninja-majestouch-2-tenkeyless-nkr-soft-linear-action-keyboard.asp)

    Ah interesting thank you !

    2 questions

    1) I'm still new at the fancy keyboards thing: No particular reason I couldn't use my WASD keyboard keycaps on this one right ?
    2) Ive seen different amazing Filco on their JP website, can you get them in ISO 88 ? or is the one you linked all there is to get (easily) in Europe ?

    - Edit
    oh and 3) how do you think it scales quality wise vs WASD v2 keyboards ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 February 2014, 17:25:41
    Quote from: Norz on Sat, 15 February 2014, 16:46:49
    1) I'm still new at the fancy keyboards thing: No particular reason I couldn't use my WASD keyboard keycaps on this one right ?
    2) Ive seen different amazing Filco on their JP website, can you get them in ISO 88 ? or is the one you linked all there is to get (easily) in Europe ?
    3) how do you think it scales quality wise vs WASD v2 keyboards ?

    1) Yes you can use WASD keycaps on your Filco as long as it's ISO.

    2) I think keyboardco.com is the best place to get the ISO 88 layout. I think the Filco/Diatec site mainly sells JP layout.

    3) Filco is my favorite stock keyboard. I prefer Filcos above all other stock keyboards. I've heard WASD v2's are nice though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 16 February 2014, 09:01:32
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 07:48:12
    Is there any English documentation for the ps2avrU firmware (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU)? (Sprit's PCBs ship with this firmware.)

    Okay! I've had some success with hardware key remapping of Sprit's FaceW 60% PCB. I haven't managed to reflash the firmware though, which means that certain clever stuff like arbitrary function layers and dual-action keys aren't possible (I don't think), but this is a huge step up from not being able to to type a backtick yesterday.

    The following technique is taken from this page (http://winkeyless.kr/46). It uses a plain-text buffer as a primitive command prompt.

    Steps to remap keys at the hardware level on a FaceW PCB:

    Step 0. Unplug the USB cable from keyboard you're remapping to your computer.

    Step 1. Open Notepad (Windows) or TextEdit (OS X, click "New Document").

    Step 2. On the keyboard you're remapping, hold down M and plug the USB cable back in. The following should be printed in your text buffer:

    Code: [Select]
    ps2avrU

    select mode
    1:Key Mapping
    2:Macro
    3:Exit
    4:boot mapper
    Input Command Number:

    Step 3. We're only going to be dealing with Key Mapping (the only thing I've figured out), so enter the code for Key Mapping. (In my case, this was 1, but the site occasionally shows different numbers, so YMMV.) Something like the following will be displayed:

    Code: [Select]
    Key Mapper
    1: Change Layer
    2: Select Key - input keycode
    3: Save and Exit
    4: Exit without Saving
    6: Back
    9: Reset to Default (Current Layer)
    >>

    A quick run down of the important options: 1 will change the function layer you're mapping (the default is the normal layer) and 2 will allow you to remap a key in your current layer. The rest are self-explanatory.

    Step 4. Let's remap a key (CapsLock to L-Ctrl). Enter 2 and you'll be prompted to press the key you want to remap. Press CapsLock. You'll then be prompted to enter the 3-digit key code you want to remap it to. Using this spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah1Lcjc-gPfndGRJN1JGVUFuOGxkQnVwdm9OLVZYb2c&usp=sharing#gid=0), identify the correct 3-digit code. In our case, L-Ctrl is 103.

    Step 5. You're now back in the menu from Step 3. Enter 3 to Save and Exit.

    Step 6. Unplug your keyboard, plug it back it, and verify that the remapping was successful.

    If you learn more about this process, please let me know and I'll add it to this post. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Sun, 16 February 2014, 09:59:44
    How much would one pay for a leopold FC660M with MX clears? I'm looking at it on qtan and it's about $140 shipped, but that seems like an awful lot just for a minimal keyboard like that with Cherry switches. It has PBT keycaps at least, but the FC660C with topres is only slightly more than that (not that I need another topre board).

    Also, does anyone know if those doubleshot PBT vortex keycaps that geek feng is selling on ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Green-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099852343?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276) are worth it, or if they could fit in a filco MJ2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:10:10
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 16 February 2014, 09:59:44
    How much would one pay for a leopold FC660M with MX clears? I'm looking at it on qtan and it's about $140 shipped, but that seems like an awful lot just for a minimal keyboard like that with Cherry switches. It has PBT keycaps at least, but the FC660C with topres is only slightly more than that (not that I need another topre board).

    Also, does anyone know if those doubleshot PBT vortex keycaps that geek feng is selling on ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Green-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099852343?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276) are worth it, or if they could fit in a filco MJ2?

    Next time, please post in the Price Check thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0;topicseen

    I've seen 660M with clears go for $105 before, but it was used. For new I'd say $120 is a good price. Those vortex ones should fit on filco no problems
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:27:22
    Is there a consensus to say that as far as MX keyboards go, Filco Majestouch 2 are as good as it gets in the "pretty good but not ultra fancy either" category ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:31:42
    Quote from: Norz on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:27:22
    Is there a consensus to say that as far as MX keyboards go, Filco Majestouch 2 are as good as it gets in the "pretty good but not ultra fancy either" category ?
    Nope.

    A lot of people think Filcos are the best. A lot of people think there are other readily available MX keyboards that are better, like Duckies. A lot of people think older MX keyboards like the Cherry G80 series are better than any readily available keyboards. It really comes down to personal preference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:35:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:10:10
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 16 February 2014, 09:59:44
    How much would one pay for a leopold FC660M with MX clears? I'm looking at it on qtan and it's about $140 shipped, but that seems like an awful lot just for a minimal keyboard like that with Cherry switches. It has PBT keycaps at least, but the FC660C with topres is only slightly more than that (not that I need another topre board).

    Also, does anyone know if those doubleshot PBT vortex keycaps that geek feng is selling on ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Green-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099852343?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276) are worth it, or if they could fit in a filco MJ2?

    Next time, please post in the Price Check thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0;topicseen

    I've seen 660M with clears go for $105 before, but it was used. For new I'd say $120 is a good price. Those vortex ones should fit on filco no problems
    Oh okay, I'll use that thread next time.

    On qtan the price is $120, but shipping included it ends up being $140. I'd rather not buy used either, so it seems like this is my only option because I haven't found any listings for this particular board with clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 16 February 2014, 14:22:59
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:35:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:10:10
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 16 February 2014, 09:59:44
    How much would one pay for a leopold FC660M with MX clears? I'm looking at it on qtan and it's about $140 shipped, but that seems like an awful lot just for a minimal keyboard like that with Cherry switches. It has PBT keycaps at least, but the FC660C with topres is only slightly more than that (not that I need another topre board).

    Also, does anyone know if those doubleshot PBT vortex keycaps that geek feng is selling on ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Green-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099852343?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276) are worth it, or if they could fit in a filco MJ2?

    Next time, please post in the Price Check thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0;topicseen

    I've seen 660M with clears go for $105 before, but it was used. For new I'd say $120 is a good price. Those vortex ones should fit on filco no problems
    Oh okay, I'll use that thread next time.

    On qtan the price is $120, but shipping included it ends up being $140. I'd rather not buy used either, so it seems like this is my only option because I haven't found any listings for this particular board with clears.

    The M with Clears is a bit rare. Fengs prices are pretty fair
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 16 February 2014, 14:55:15
    Anyone know if the caps are DS ABS or POM?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-MY-7000-POS-Credit-Card-Swipe-Keyboard-Black-G81-7000LPDUS-2-/121258728548?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item1c3b955c64

    G81-7000LPDUS-2

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Njk5WDkzMg==/$(KGrHqZHJEEE-nbG5wqKBP)UE2c35!~~60_14.JPG)

    EDIT: Its pom http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17033.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 February 2014, 14:59:29
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 16 February 2014, 14:55:15
    Anyone know if the caps are DS ABS or POM?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-MY-7000-POS-Credit-Card-Swipe-Keyboard-Black-G81-7000LPDUS-2-/121258728548?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item1c3b955c64

    G81-7000LPDUS-2

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Njk5WDkzMg==/$(KGrHqZHJEEE-nbG5wqKBP)UE2c35!~~60_14.JPG)


    Please don't double post.

    And it should be Lasered POM. The L after 7000 means it's lasered (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps). Then Dorkvader talked about this a couple of pages back (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1184667#msg1184667); if it's a black keyboard, it's probably lasered POM. If white, it's probably lasered PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Euf0ria on Mon, 17 February 2014, 07:13:30
    What is the maximum number of switches you can use in a keyboard build if you are using a Teensy 2.0 with no additional add on controllers and you want two leds for indication of layer/modifiers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Mon, 17 February 2014, 07:17:12
    Quote from: Euf0ria on Mon, 17 February 2014, 07:13:30
    What is the maximum number of switches you can use in a keyboard build if you are using a Teensy 2.0 with no additional add on controllers and you want two leds for indication of layer/modifiers.

    There are 25 pins available, two for LED, leaves 23, 11*12 = 132 max.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:08:23
    Is there some sort of "ISO" group of people on this forum for things such as "Interest check" "group buys" etc ? or is all the forum about ANSI keyboards ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:10:23
    Def not.  There is a lot of people here that use ISO layout among others.  However I believe this forum has a large amount of US users hence the bias toward ISO.  From my experience though www.deskthority.net seems to have a larger portion of users in Europe so I would believe there would be more supporters of ISO there.  However, I could also be very wrong here as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:11:03
    Quote from: Norz on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:08:23
    Is there some sort of "ISO" group of people on this forum for things such as "Interest check" "group buys" etc ? or is all the forum about ANSI keyboards ?

    Most of the GBs for keycaps on the forum in general have an ISO option.

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:10:23
    There is a lot of people here that use ISO layout among others.  However I believe this forum has a large amount of US users hence the bias toward ISO.  From my experience though www.deskthority.net seems to have a larger portion of users in Europe so I would believe there would be more supporters of ISO there. 

    I'd agree with this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:12:01
    I see. And I didn't know about this site, nice.
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gh_pp on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:56:39
    What's the easiest (no desoldering/soldering) or economic way (off the shelf) to obtain a lubed ergo-clear 87 TKL?

    I've a WTB thread up but looking for any options that I might have missed.

    I wouldn't mind the hassle if I can get a fully customized phantom, but it seems like I can get everything sourced except the WFD/Beast 1.25 plate. They are not being produced anymore and chance of getting one from classified isn't high.

    Is there a solid quality (QFR quality is good enough for me) PCB mounted TKL?

    From my research POKER I / POKER X is pcb mounted, but if I gone through all the trouble and ended up liking it (lubed ergo-clear) I'll be even more pressed to find a TKL. (Of course, if I don’t like it, I can just resell it like my other boards).

    I have tried BS/black alps/peerless, mx green/blue/clear/brown/red/black, 45g/55g and have a variable type-s in the mail.

    I think this will be the last switch type that I want to try (I like light, bouncy tactile switch and I'm not going to miss the other rare heavier switch like mx-white or grey)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:59:26
    Quote from: gh_pp on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:56:39
    What's the easiest (no desoldering/soldering) or economic way (off the shelf) to obtain a lubed ergo-clear 87 TKL?

    I've a WTB thread up but looking for any options that I might have missed.

    I wouldn't mind the hassle if I can get a fully customized phantom, but it seems like I can get everything sourced except the WFD/Beast 1.25 plate. They are not being produced anymore and chance of getting one from classified isn't high.

    Is there a solid quality (QFR quality is good enough for me) PCB mounted TKL?

    From my research POKER I / POKER X is pcb mounted, but if I gone through all the trouble and ended up liking it (lubed ergo-clear) I'll be even more pressed to find a TKL. (Of course, if I don’t like it, I can just resell it like my other boards).

    I have tried BS/black alps/peerless, mx green/blue/clear/brown/red/black, 45g/55g and have a variable type-s in the mail.

    I think this will be the last switch type that I want to try (I like light, bouncy tactile switch and I'm not going to miss the other rare heavier switch like mx-white or grey)

    You won't get off the shelf ergo clear soon. I am not aware of any PCB mounted TKL on the market right now, but you can get a phantom and just PCB mount the switches and have a case cut
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:02:06
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:59:26
    You won't get off the shelf ergo clear soon. I am not aware of any PCB mounted TKL on the market right now, but you can get a phantom and just PCB mount the switches and have a case cut

    G80-1800 comes close. And Phantom PCB doesn't have holes for PCB-mounting the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:02:58
    Quote from: gh_pp on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:56:39
    What's the easiest (no desoldering/soldering) or economic way (off the shelf) to obtain a lubed ergo-clear 87 TKL?

    I've a WTB thread up but looking for any options that I might have missed.

    I wouldn't mind the hassle if I can get a fully customized phantom, but it seems like I can get everything sourced except the WFD/Beast 1.25 plate. They are not being produced anymore and chance of getting one from classified isn't high.

    Is there a solid quality (QFR quality is good enough for me) PCB mounted TKL?

    From my research POKER I / POKER X is pcb mounted, but if I gone through all the trouble and ended up liking it (lubed ergo-clear) I'll be even more pressed to find a TKL. (Of course, if I don’t like it, I can just resell it like my other boards).

    I have tried BS/black alps/peerless, mx green/blue/clear/brown/red/black, 45g/55g and have a variable type-s in the mail.

    I think this will be the last switch type that I want to try (I like light, bouncy tactile switch and I'm not going to miss the other rare heavier switch like mx-white or grey)

    I believe someone was having some plates made not sure what happened with that, I'm hoping mechanicalkeyboards.com will have some plates for phantoms eventually.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:19:51
    Quote from: gh_pp on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:56:39
    What's the easiest (no desoldering/soldering) or economic way (off the shelf) to obtain a lubed ergo-clear 87 TKL?

    I've a WTB thread up but looking for any options that I might have missed.

    Is there a solid quality (QFR quality is good enough for me) PCB mounted TKL?

    Hm, did you know that some people will do mods for free? You could buy a standard TKL that you do like, for example a Filco or Ducky, and the needed switches/springs. Then send it to one of the modders. Kmiller8 does it for free. There might be some others as well.

    I'm not sure about a quality PCB-mounted TKL. Check out Ivan's post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42342.msg874975#msg874975) for more info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:20:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:19:51
    Quote from: gh_pp on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:56:39
    What's the easiest (no desoldering/soldering) or economic way (off the shelf) to obtain a lubed ergo-clear 87 TKL?

    I've a WTB thread up but looking for any options that I might have missed.

    Is there a solid quality (QFR quality is good enough for me) PCB mounted TKL?

    Hm, did you know that some people will do mods for free? You could buy a standard TKL that you do like, for example a Filco or Ducky, and the needed switches/springs. Then send it to one of the modders. Kmiller8 does it for free. There might be some others as well.

    I'm not sure about a quality PCB-mounted TKL. Check out Ivan's post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42342.msg874975#msg874975) for more info.

    I think kmiller decided he was charging now, the free thing was a trial run.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:31:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:19:51
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:20:55
    Hm, did you know that some people will do mods for free?  Kmiller8 does it for free. There might be some others as well.

    I think kmiller decided he was charging now, the free thing was a trial run.

    I didn't know that. I just found the post in his classifieds ad (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53817.msg1222061#msg1222061).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:43:46
    As far as buying ergo-clears your best bet is buy some off the classifieds if you can find them.  The only other option is to buy stock clears and mod them yourself.  Cherry has stated they would do a run of ergo-clears but the MOQ was 10,000 switches if I remember correctly.  This was at least 6 months ago the last time I remember someone communicating with Cherry directly on something like this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:45:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:43:46
    As far as buying ergo-clears your best bet is buy some off the classifieds if you can find them.  The only other option is to buy stock clears and mod them yourself.  Cherry has stated they would do a run of ergo-clears but the MOQ was 10,000 switches if I remember correctly.  This was at least 6 months ago the last time I remember someone communicating with Cherry directly on something like this.

    Wasn't the MOQ 750,000? Or am I mistaken?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:46:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:43:46
    As far as buying ergo-clears your best bet is buy some off the classifieds if you can find them.  The only other option is to buy stock clears and mod them yourself.  Cherry has stated they would do a run of ergo-clears but the MOQ was 10,000 switches if I remember correctly.  This was at least 6 months ago the last time I remember someone communicating with Cherry directly on something like this.

    DT wiki says 750,000 for MOQ but perhaps that was due to stem color as well http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:48:24
    I stand corrected.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:51:46
    Ergo clears are nothing but hype. This is coming from someone who has tried them, and hated them. Everyone wants ergo clears because they are so glorified as the ultimate switch, probably because they AREN'T a "stock" switch, and take some effort to modify/acquire.

    Stock Clears 2014
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:52:32
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:51:46
    Ergo clears are nothing but hype. This is coming from someone who has tried them, and hated them. Everyone wants ergo clears because they are so glorified as the ultimate switch, probably because they AREN'T a "stock" switch, and take some effort to modify/acquire.

    Stock Clears 2014

    ^^ I concur, stock clears FTW!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:00:42
    And again another personal preference being marketed as the gospel.  There really is not best or worst switch with the possible exception to cheap rubber domes.  Try the stock clears, if you find them two stiff or would like to feel a bit more of the tactile bump then go ahead and mod them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gh_pp on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:04:19
    Thanks for all the replies, BTW CPTBadAss I got your PM thanks for the heads up.

    jdcarpe is definitely right about the allure of non-standard switches (human nature wanting something you can't have, not easily obtainable :)

    However what makes me want to try ergo-clear so bad is this video


    It looks so smooth and it thocks like a topre but it also debounces fast like cherry!

    I've tried stock clears but they're not 100% of what I'm looking for.

    Maybe lubed mx-brown will be as good but there is really no easy way to find out.

    So yes now that I know of another option I'll definitely pm those folks to see who can help me mod one.

    Too bad WFD is swarmed with real-life [tm], his craftsmanship seems top notch from the videos I watched.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:04:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:00:42
    And again another personal preference being marketed as the gospel.  There really is not best or worst switch with the possible exception to cheap rubber domes.  Try the stock clears, if you find them two stiff or would like to feel a bit more of the tactile bump then go ahead and mod them.

    Or try Blacks. Or Blues. Whatever, but decide for yourself. Don't just believe the hype that something is good because some people say it is. There are probably a great many people using MX Browns, Reds, etc. who never claim their favorite switch to be the "best," they just use them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:20:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 February 2014, 14:02:06
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 17 February 2014, 13:59:26
    You won't get off the shelf ergo clear soon. I am not aware of any PCB mounted TKL on the market right now, but you can get a phantom and just PCB mount the switches and have a case cut

    G80-1800 comes close. And Phantom PCB doesn't have holes for PCB-mounting the switches.

    Is it possible to drill holes in the PCB for mounting switches? Or are there traces in those places?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:21:49
    What sort of mods are available to unicomp BS keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:24:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:21:49
    What sort of mods are available to unicomp BS keyboards?

    The same ones that you can do to Model Ms:

    Bolt mod
    Floss mod
    Grease mod
    65% mod
    Foam/blanket replacement
    Layout changes

    I can provide links if you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:26:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:24:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:21:49
    What sort of mods are available to unicomp BS keyboards?

    The same ones that you can do to Model Ms:

    Bolt mod
    Floss mod
    Grease mod
    65% mod
    Foam/blanket replacement
    Layout changes

    I can provide links if you want.

    A link would be nice for the floss mod.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:24:53
    Does anyone know if this has mechanical switches?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-Nickelodeon-Keyboard-by-Brain-Works-1994-Tested-w-USB-adapter/181322784654
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:36:34
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:24:53
    Does anyone know if this has mechanical switches?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-Nickelodeon-Keyboard-by-Brain-Works-1994-Tested-w-USB-adapter/181322784654

    Well...That's a colourful keyboard.  :eek:

    I can say for sure that it's not Cherry switches  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 18 February 2014, 04:50:00
    To remove and add a detachable cable to my Filco, would that require soldering? (Never opened up one before.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 February 2014, 05:04:23

    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 18 February 2014, 04:50:00
    To remove and add a detachable cable to my Filco, would that require soldering? (Never opened up one before.)

    No, you just have to open the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 February 2014, 05:09:12
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 18 February 2014, 04:50:00
    To remove and add a detachable cable to my Filco, would that require soldering? (Never opened up one before.)

    This video from WFD shows it pretty well.  Go to 4:47

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 18 February 2014, 05:38:55
    Thanks guys. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 February 2014, 06:27:09
    What are the highest-quality ANSI Alps keycaps available? For example, for MX switches, OG Cherry keycaps are regarded as best-in-class.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 07:39:00
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 February 2014, 06:27:09
    What are the highest-quality ANSI Alps keycaps available? For example, for MX switches, OG Cherry keycaps are regarded as best-in-class.

    The bad thing about Alps is that you'll probably have to harvest caps from a keyboard. You can't pick up aftermarket ones at the moment. I really like the caps on the Apple AEKII, Dell AT101W, and Focus FK-2001. Unfortunately, none of these are the modern ANSI layouts we're used to.

    The only two boards that have that board are the Filco Zero and Ducky 1087XM. The Ducky caps are really bad in my opinion; they're thin and low quality. The Zero caps are the standard Filco caps but with an Alps stem; problem is they're almost impossible to find.


    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 February 2014, 05:09:12
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 18 February 2014, 04:50:00
    To remove and add a detachable cable to my Filco, would that require soldering? (Never opened up one before.)

    This video from WFD shows it pretty well.  Go to 4:47


    Along with WFD's video, I also have some pictures from when I swapped cables in my Majestouch 2 here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42889.0).


    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:26:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:24:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:21:49
    What sort of mods are available to unicomp BS keyboards?

    The same ones that you can do to Model Ms:

    Bolt mod
    Floss mod
    Grease mod
    65% mod
    Foam/blanket replacement
    Layout changes

    I can provide links if you want.

    A link would be nice for the floss mod.

    Floss mod for BS keyboards (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9761.0)


    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:24:53
    Does anyone know if this has mechanical switches?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-Nickelodeon-Keyboard-by-Brain-Works-1994-Tested-w-USB-adapter/181322784654

    Unfortunately I can't figure out what switches it uses. I did find out some background history here (http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1995-01-22/business/9501200555_1_kids-computers-computer-hardware-new-pc-software). It was made at the same time as the Alps Kidboard (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35672.msg1034865#msg1034865), and the company Brainworks actually made the Star Trek keyboard (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54265.0). Here is[url] a link from the catalog that sold the Nickelodeon keyboard. But no helpful hints about it being mechanical.

    My best guess is that since it's a competitor to the Kidboard, it's some form of Alps, but I'm *totally* guessing. It's also priced at $69.99 as opposed to the $99 for the Kidboard. That might be a clue one way or another. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14531705@N00/4378202264/in/photostream/)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 February 2014, 07:44:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 07:39:00
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 February 2014, 06:27:09
    What are the highest-quality ANSI Alps keycaps available? For example, for MX switches, OG Cherry keycaps are regarded as best-in-class.

    The bad thing about Alps is that you'll probably have to harvest caps from a keyboard. You can't pick up aftermarket ones at the moment. I really like the caps on the Apple AEKII, Dell AT101W, and Focus FK-2001. Unfortunately, none of these are the modern ANSI layouts we're used to.

    The only two boards that have that board are the Filco Zero and Ducky 1087XM. The Ducky caps are really bad in my opinion; they're thin and low quality. The Zero caps are the standard Filco caps but with an Alps stem; problem is they're almost impossible to find.

    The Dell AT101W is a standard layout, no? (With stepped caps.)

    (http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/3/34/34b532be_vbattach183417.jpeg)

    What's the quality like on Matias' caps? You mentioned that he's theoretically running a group buy or making them available at some point in the future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 08:03:36
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 February 2014, 07:44:14
    The Dell AT101W is a standard layout, no? (With stepped caps.)

    Show Image
    (http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/3/34/34b532be_vbattach183417.jpeg)


    What's the quality like on Matias' caps? You mentioned that he's theoretically running a group buy or making them available at some point in the future.

    Yes besides the caps lock it's standard. You can actually snip the step off, it just makes the cap look weird. Since the caps lock is stepped and is hard to replace, I would say it's not the standard ANSI. However, I really do like the AT101W caps.

    I've actually never seen Matias' keycaps alone. They've always been on the keyboards. From what I remember, I liked the Matias' keyboards overall, keycaps included. You can check out the Matias schedule for aftermarket keycaps and their 60% Matias GB here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54094.msg1211864#msg1211864).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 February 2014, 08:12:25
    Great, thanks CPT!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:31:32
    Are there any US cable makers left?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:31:32
    Are there any US cable makers left?

    tjcaustin's MiMiC Cables
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:55
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:31:32
    Are there any US cable makers left?

    tjcaustin's MiMiC Cables

    Can't buy from TJ he blocked me  ::)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:35:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:55
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:31:32
    Are there any US cable makers left?

    tjcaustin's MiMiC Cables

    Can't buy from TJ he blocked me  ::)

    TheFlyingRaccoon is making cables for Bunnylake's Ctrl Alt Store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:36:13
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:35:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:55
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:31:32
    Are there any US cable makers left?

    tjcaustin's MiMiC Cables

    Can't buy from TJ he blocked me  ::)

    TheFlyingRaccoon is making cables for Bunnylake's Ctrl Alt Store.

    Yeah only for those sets. He doesn't have time for other stuff.

    I'll just buy a cable off ebay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:48:09
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:55
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:31:32
    Are there any US cable makers left?

    tjcaustin's MiMiC Cables

    Can't buy from TJ he blocked me  ::)

    TJ blocked you on mimic-cables.com too? Should still be able to order from the website there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:49:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:48:09
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:55
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:33:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:31:32
    Are there any US cable makers left?

    tjcaustin's MiMiC Cables

    Can't buy from TJ he blocked me  ::)

    TJ blocked you on mimic-cables.com too? Should still be able to order from the website there.

    Now why would I do that? If I can't PM a vendor on geekhack and ask them questions about a product I would like to purchase then why bother.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:50:43
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:49:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:48:09
    TJ blocked you on mimic-cables.com too? Should still be able to order from the website there.

    Now why would I do that? If I can't PM a vendor and ask them questions about a product I would like to purchase then why bother.

    It was a suggestion. No need to be defensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:56:24
    /Back on topic.

    Many modern PC's don't have PS2 and the PS2 port on my workstation's PS2 port is in an awful location.

    I realize that the G80-3700 needs to be connected through the PS2 interface to program but is there some sort of adapter that would make USB work for this?  I know two different protocols etc but I've seen magic happen around here.



    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:01:47
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:56:24
    Many modern PC's don't have PS2 and the PS2 port on my workstation's PS2 port is in an awful location.

    I realize that the G80-3700 needs to be connected through the PS2 interface to program but is there some sort of adapter that would make USB work for this?  I know two different protocols etc but I've seen magic happen around here.

    If you program it on PS/2 first then use a PS/2 to USB adapter, does it lose it's programming? I'm not 100% on how the 3700 works. If not, you could just program it then use the adapter. Or maybe you can find a PS/2 to USB cable like how the Orihalcon cables are. Otherwise wouldn't a Teensy conversion work as well?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:04:51
    Does the entire board need to be desoldered on the Ducky full size non back lit to clip the stabs?  Or does it have the cut outs so you can remove it just by desoldering those couple switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:11:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:04:51
    Does the entire board need to be desoldered on the Ducky full size non back lit to clip the stabs?  Or does it have the cut outs so you can remove it just by desoldering those couple switches?

    I have a Ducky in my apartment right now that I could take apart to look at. I'll look at it tonight. But since I'm forgetful, PM me if you don't see a post on this by tomorrow. Hopefully someone else knows though ^__^.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:14:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:11:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:04:51
    Does the entire board need to be desoldered on the Ducky full size non back lit to clip the stabs?  Or does it have the cut outs so you can remove it just by desoldering those couple switches?

    I have a Ducky in my apartment right now that I could take apart to look at. I'll look at it tonight. But since I'm forgetful, PM me if you don't see a post on this by tomorrow. Hopefully someone else knows though ^__^.

    Will do Cpt.  The board is in MN right now and I live in IA so I can't really just take a quick look.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:18:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:14:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:11:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:04:51
    Does the entire board need to be desoldered on the Ducky full size non back lit to clip the stabs?  Or does it have the cut outs so you can remove it just by desoldering those couple switches?

    I have a Ducky in my apartment right now that I could take apart to look at. I'll look at it tonight. But since I'm forgetful, PM me if you don't see a post on this by tomorrow. Hopefully someone else knows though ^__^.

    Will do Cpt.  The board is in MN right now and I live in IA so I can't really just take a quick look.

    Melvang what model year is it? The newer boards are coming with clipped stabs according to laffindude.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:24:43
    I bought it last fall
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:41:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:24:43
    I bought it last fall

    Ok it was one of the ducky boards with thick pbt caps right?  i'm not sure what those have. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 12:03:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:18:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:14:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:11:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:04:51
    Does the entire board need to be desoldered on the Ducky full size non back lit to clip the stabs?  Or does it have the cut outs so you can remove it just by desoldering those couple switches?

    I have a Ducky in my apartment right now that I could take apart to look at. I'll look at it tonight. But since I'm forgetful, PM me if you don't see a post on this by tomorrow. Hopefully someone else knows though ^__^.

    Will do Cpt.  The board is in MN right now and I live in IA so I can't really just take a quick look.

    Melvang what model year is it? The newer boards are coming with clipped stabs according to laffindude.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:04:51
    Does the entire board need to be desoldered on the Ducky full size non back lit to clip the stabs?  Or does it have the cut outs so you can remove it just by desoldering those couple switches?

    Ray, Laffindude (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49458.msg1169437#msg1169437) says the clipped stabilizers go forward from his post. So does that mean the Shine 3s only have clipped stabilizers starting in Winter of 2013? I'm not sure. And the post only pertains to the Shine 3. If Melvang has a nonbacklit Ducky, then it wouldn't be a Shine model.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 12:06:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 12:03:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:18:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:14:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:11:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:04:51
    Does the entire board need to be desoldered on the Ducky full size non back lit to clip the stabs?  Or does it have the cut outs so you can remove it just by desoldering those couple switches?

    I have a Ducky in my apartment right now that I could take apart to look at. I'll look at it tonight. But since I'm forgetful, PM me if you don't see a post on this by tomorrow. Hopefully someone else knows though ^__^.

    Will do Cpt.  The board is in MN right now and I live in IA so I can't really just take a quick look.

    Melvang what model year is it? The newer boards are coming with clipped stabs according to laffindude.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:04:51
    Does the entire board need to be desoldered on the Ducky full size non back lit to clip the stabs?  Or does it have the cut outs so you can remove it just by desoldering those couple switches?

    Ray, Laffindude (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49458.msg1169437#msg1169437) says the clipped stabilizers go forward from his post. So does that mean the Shine 3s only have clipped stabilizers starting in Winter of 2013? I'm not sure. And the post only pertains to the Shine 3. If Melvang has a nonbacklit Ducky, then it wouldn't be a Shine model.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:41:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:24:43
    I bought it last fall

    Ok it was one of the ducky boards with thick pbt caps right?  i'm not sure what those have. :(

    ^^ yeah i dunno, i've only got a shine 2

    And I'm assuming all shine 3's and any models released since they were released will have the factory clipped stabs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 12:08:42
    This is the exact model. (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=475)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zaskar on Tue, 18 February 2014, 16:07:46
    Curious if anyone knows what happens when you enable dip switch 4 and 5 together on a HHKB? (4 changes the meta key to a Fn key, and 5 swaps the meta and alt keys)

    Does the Fn key replace the new or original meta key's spot? (Also does it replace both meta keys giving you a total of 3 Fn keys, or just the left one, leaving the right alone?)

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 February 2014, 19:38:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 11:04:51
    Does the entire board need to be desoldered on the Ducky full size non back lit to clip the stabs?  Or does it have the cut outs so you can remove it just by desoldering those couple switches?

    From what I saw on this Team OMG keyboard (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52368.0), which is a Ducky 2108S Zero Shine, and what I'm done on my KMAC I don't think that you can just desolder the switch and replace the stabilizer. The issue is the stabilizer wire and how it sits. I was able to tinker with my KMAC's spacebar stabilizers because it was at the edge of the keyboard so I could get tools inside. Because the backspace, enter, and shifts are slightly shifted away from the edges, it would be very hard to reset the wire I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:30:57
    Approximately how many times can a set of doubleshot ABS caps be taken on and off a board before they'll start to get loose? Is it much different for other plastics? What variables, if any, affect the rate of wear?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:37:20
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:30:57
    Approximately how many times can a set of doubleshot ABS caps be taken on and off a board before they'll start to get loose? Is it much different for other plastics? What variables, if any, affect the rate of wear?

    I don't remember where but I think we had an entire thread arguing about this once.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:07:00
    The oldest model M plates and model F backplates. What treatment do they have to make them that awesome colour?

    also:
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:30:57
    Approximately how many times can a set of doubleshot ABS caps be taken on and off a board before they'll start to get loose? Is it much different for other plastics? What variables, if any, affect the rate of wear?

    just a guess, but probably a few hundred times at least. If you run into issues, you can up plastic bags and use them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:11:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:37:20
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:30:57
    Approximately how many times can a set of doubleshot ABS caps be taken on and off a board before they'll start to get loose? Is it much different for other plastics? What variables, if any, affect the rate of wear?

    I don't remember where but I think we had an entire thread arguing about this once.

    IIRC that thread was about how long the stem lasts on the switch not the cap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:15:12
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:11:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:37:20
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:30:57
    Approximately how many times can a set of doubleshot ABS caps be taken on and off a board before they'll start to get loose? Is it much different for other plastics? What variables, if any, affect the rate of wear?

    I don't remember where but I think we had an entire thread arguing about this once.

    IIRC that thread was about how long the stem lasts on the switch not the cap.

    Sorry if I was unclear. I am indeed asking about stems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:18:38

    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:07:00
    The oldest model M plates and model F backplates. What treatment do they have to make them that awesome colour?

    I'm guessing here, but it's probably from the heat applied to melt the plastic rivets, at least in the case of the M.

    I can't think of a good reason for it on the F, unless it was some sort of heat application like happened to that droid in Jabba's palace when they tortured him by applying red hot irons to his feet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:22:16
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:18:38

    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:07:00
    The oldest model M plates and model F backplates. What treatment do they have to make them that awesome colour?

    I'm guessing here, but it's probably from the heat applied to melt the plastic rivets, at least in the case of the M.

    I can't think of a good reason for it on the F, unless it was some sort of heat application like happened to that droid in Jabba's palace when they tortured him by applying red hot irons to his feet.
    I think the discolourations around the rivets are because it's pre-drilled and then treated.
    (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3739/12627161623_24a4418ecc_o.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:49:27
    That discolorations is distinctly from some from of heat treating.  My guess would be annealed to work with easier then hardened a bit to hold the shape.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 February 2014, 07:53:40
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:07:00
    The oldest model M plates and model F backplates. What treatment do they have to make them that awesome colour?

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:49:27
    That discolorations is distinctly from some from of heat treating.  My guess would be annealed to work with easier then hardened a bit to hold the shape.

    I'd agree with this. It definitely looks like a heat treat process.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:30:57
    Approximately how many times can a set of doubleshot ABS caps be taken on and off a board before they'll start to get loose? Is it much different for other plastics? What variables, if any, affect the rate of wear?

    I've had my Valentine's set since I started on Geekhack about a year ago. I've swapped it on and off different boards probably 10-20 times. I haven't had any issues with wear. I suspect it's negligible wear since you're only doing it say once a day.

    If you really want, you can look up the material properties and then see what the durability, creep, and modulus of elasticity is. This will give you a general idea of how much wear and usage the material can take.

    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:07:00
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:30:57
    Approximately how many times can a set of doubleshot ABS caps be taken on and off a board before they'll start to get loose? Is it much different for other plastics? What variables, if any, affect the rate of wear?

    just a guess, but probably a few hundred times at least. If you run into issues, you can up plastic bags and use them.

    Dorkvader is saying you can use cut up plastic bags as shims if the caps become loose.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:11:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:37:20
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:30:57
    Approximately how many times can a set of doubleshot ABS caps be taken on and off a board before they'll start to get loose? Is it much different for other plastics? What variables, if any, affect the rate of wear?

    I don't remember where but I think we had an entire thread arguing about this once.

    IIRC that thread was about how long the stem lasts on the switch not the cap.

    Links guys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 February 2014, 08:16:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 February 2014, 07:53:40
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 18 February 2014, 22:11:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:37:20
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 21:30:57
    Approximately how many times can a set of doubleshot ABS caps be taken on and off a board before they'll start to get loose? Is it much different for other plastics? What variables, if any, affect the rate of wear?

    I don't remember where but I think we had an entire thread arguing about this once.

    IIRC that thread was about how long the stem lasts on the switch not the cap.

    Links guys?

    I think this was one of them -> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49060.0

    I thought there was another but my search-fu is weak sauce this morning.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 19 February 2014, 09:26:46
    Thanks for the info dudes  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:09:13
    What is keyboard using 4.5 spacebar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:21:16
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:09:13
    What is keyboard using 4.5 spacebar?

    Pure Pro. I believe this is the only keyboard that has this spacebar size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 19 February 2014, 20:40:07
    on Poker 2, black PBT are not black but rather dark grey
    all black PBT looks like dark grey?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 19 February 2014, 22:21:25
    I'm interested in having a plate cut for a Phantom. I would like to use one of the standard plates from the GB. Is it OK to do this? What files would I need to send to the company doing the cutting and how could I get these? I've noticed a few threads on producing plates, but I'm put off by the fact that I'd have to have them shipped a long way to get to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 19 February 2014, 22:44:12
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Wed, 19 February 2014, 22:21:25
    I'm interested in having a plate cut for a Phantom. I would like to use one of the standard plates from the GB. Is it OK to do this? What files would I need to send to the company doing the cutting and how could I get these? I've noticed a few threads on producing plates, but I'm put off by the fact that I'd have to have them shipped a long way to get to me.

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    http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13928714177726&key=ae397ad5dec9dcac1cf8902258ac4def&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D47744.0&v=1&libId=f2b2fc67-1c16-4744-8f62-b1ee96cd79b4&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fgb2uqdfwhqjhhl7%2FPhantomPlates.zip&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Fboard%3D117.0&title=GH%20CAD%20Resources%20Hub&txt=Phantom%20Plates
    This link came from here.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 19 February 2014, 22:53:09
    Thanks Melvang!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: missalaire on Thu, 20 February 2014, 01:22:15
    Any other places to buy Topre replacement key caps besides EliteKeyboards? I swear I saw someone posted a site with several options/colors, but I can't remember where it was posted :<
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gh_pp on Thu, 20 February 2014, 01:38:41
    you need to use proxy to buy it from china

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.2KTaWd&id=36392535695
    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.2KTaWd&id=14384988030

    they only have 1-5 sets of each color.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: missalaire on Thu, 20 February 2014, 01:53:22
    Quote from: gh_pp on Thu, 20 February 2014, 01:38:41
    you need to use proxy to buy it from china

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.2KTaWd&id=36392535695
    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.2KTaWd&id=14384988030

    they only have 1-5 sets of each color.

    Ah thanks. I was hoping the full sets would be reasonably priced but it doesn't seem that way :<
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 February 2014, 08:10:47
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 19 February 2014, 20:40:07
    on Poker 2, black PBT are not black but rather dark grey
    all black PBT looks like dark grey?

    No it depends. Also remember if you're dye-subbing the PBT caps, they can't be black or the legends won't show.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 February 2014, 20:49:25
    CPTBadAss update time: I've overhauled the OP. It should be a lot nicer to navigate now. Yes, I've exercised my right as part of the Keepers team to takeover the second thread. I should also say I asked the mods in advance. Hopefully Strelok and everyone else don't mind. I've also added a feedback thread so please chime in and let me know what you'd like to see improved. The thread can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55041.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Fri, 21 February 2014, 20:52:55
    So how would I go about obtaining a good alps keyboard? I was interested in the white alps,  but I'm aware of how many different color switches there are and have no idea which are the best choice, or which of those are even available anymore (would like to find blue alps but it doubt that will happen). I've heard mostly about the Dell AT101W, which has black alps that apparently aren't very popular for typing, and the Focus FK-2001 which the majority of those boards out there don't even have real white alps. Right now whites seem the most likely to be available and the better choice for typing but I have no idea about these kinds of boards at all.

    I would have liked to create a thread for this to possibly instigate more discussion but there's already a couple threads pertaining to alps on the first two pages so I wasn't sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 February 2014, 20:56:41
    Quote from: Rena on Fri, 21 February 2014, 20:52:55
    So how would I go about obtaining a good alps keyboard? I was interested in the white alps,  but I'm aware of how many different color switches there are and have no idea which are the best choice, or which of those are even available anymore (would like to find blue alps but it doubt that will happen). I've heard mostly about the Dell AT101W, which has black alps that apparently aren't very popular for typing, and the Focus FK-2001 which the majority of those boards out there don't even have real white alps. Right now whites seem the most likely to be available and the better choice for typing but I have no idea about these kinds of boards at all.

    I would have liked to create a thread for this to possibly instigate more discussion but there's already a couple threads pertaining to alps on the first two pages so I wasn't sure.

    I recommend getting an Dell AT101W or Focus FK-2001 like you said. If you want to make a thread go ahead? And you can buy them on eBay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:04:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 February 2014, 20:56:41
    Quote from: Rena on Fri, 21 February 2014, 20:52:55
    So how would I go about obtaining a good alps keyboard? I was interested in the white alps,  but I'm aware of how many different color switches there are and have no idea which are the best choice, or which of those are even available anymore (would like to find blue alps but it doubt that will happen). I've heard mostly about the Dell AT101W, which has black alps that apparently aren't very popular for typing, and the Focus FK-2001 which the majority of those boards out there don't even have real white alps. Right now whites seem the most likely to be available and the better choice for typing but I have no idea about these kinds of boards at all.

    I would have liked to create a thread for this to possibly instigate more discussion but there's already a couple threads pertaining to alps on the first two pages so I wasn't sure.

    I recommend getting an Dell AT101W or Focus FK-2001 like you said. If you want to make a thread go ahead? And you can buy them on eBay.
    I was looking on eBay. I found a couple listings for the Dell one just fine, about $30 (is that a good price used?) but I still wasn't sure if I'd like the black alps so much after hearing how many others disliked them. The only two listings I could find of the Focus were the ones with the Windows key, which to my understanding do not use even real alps switches but instead imitations. Most all other alps boards I tried searching for that were on the deskthority wiki I couldn't find on eBay. I'm really not sure what else to do, but I'm still interested in the white alps unless, perhaps, the green alps are available somewhere too, or something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:12:19
    The problem with a lot of Alps stuff is that there is a huge variety of switches. I got real complicated white Alps in a Focus FK2001. So I think you read some bad information somewhere. The Dell AT101W is what I started on and I think $30 is a good deal. Anyways, I think you should definitely go make a new topic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:20:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:12:19
    The problem with a lot of Alps stuff is that there is a huge variety of switches. I got real complicated white Alps in a Focus FK2001. So I think you read some bad information somewhere. The Dell AT101W is what I started on and I think $30 is a good deal. Anyways, I think you should definitely go make a new topic.
    well I hope it wasn't bad information. On the deskthority wiki page for the FK-2001 it says that models without the windows keys have the real complicated white alps and possibly real blue switches, while those with the windows keys don't use real alps, or sometimes simplified blues (another imitation?). Here's the source - http://deskthority.net/wiki/Focus_FK-2001

    Anyway, I would be glad to make a thread where we could continue discussion. Give me one moment, posting from my tablet right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:23:17
    Quote from: Rena on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:20:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:12:19
    The problem with a lot of Alps stuff is that there is a huge variety of switches. I got real complicated white Alps in a Focus FK2001. So I think you read some bad information somewhere. The Dell AT101W is what I started on and I think $30 is a good deal. Anyways, I think you should definitely go make a new topic.
    well I hope it wasn't bad information. On the deskthority wiki page for the FK-2001 it says that models without the windows keys have the real complicated white alps and possibly real blue switches, while those with the windows keys don't use real alps, or sometimes simplified blues (another imitation?). Here's the source - http://deskthority.net/wiki/Focus_FK-2001

    Anyway, I would be glad to make a thread where we could continue discussion. Give me one moment, posting from my tablet right now.

    Again, you can find FK2001s with real white alps. I had one.

    And yes, let's migrate this to a new thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55096.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:45:25
    Does anyone know where I can get a hand on one of these?

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=leo_tkb001
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:49:37
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:45:25
    Does anyone know where I can get a hand on one of these?

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=leo_tkb001

    Try PM'ing/emailing them? If they're discontinued it's going to be hard to find. I think the TT eSports bag and the Razer bag are nice alternatives though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 22 February 2014, 08:35:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:49:37
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 21 February 2014, 21:45:25
    Does anyone know where I can get a hand on one of these?

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=leo_tkb001

    Try PM'ing/emailing them? If they're discontinued it's going to be hard to find. I think the TT eSports bag and the Razer bag are nice alternatives though.

    I just sent them an email...just trying my luck!

    I like both bags, but I hate the huge strap D:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gondorff on Sat, 22 February 2014, 18:40:44
    Hey guys,

    I'm brand new to the mechanical keyboard scene, so excuse my ignorance...

    What are the differences between buckling switches vs. cherry switches as far as internals go? To clarify, would they both be compatible with the same pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 February 2014, 18:42:27
    Quote from: Gondorff on Sat, 22 February 2014, 18:40:44
    1) What are the differences between buckling switches vs. cherry switches as far as internals go?

    2) Would they both be compatible with the same pcb?

    1) Check out the pictures of buckling spring switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Buckling_spring) and MX switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX#Construction).

    2) No
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gondorff on Sat, 22 February 2014, 19:00:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 February 2014, 18:42:27
    Quote from: Gondorff on Sat, 22 February 2014, 18:40:44
    1) What are the differences between buckling switches vs. cherry switches as far as internals go?

    2) Would they both be compatible with the same pcb?

    1) Check out the pictures of buckling spring switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Buckling_spring) and MX switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX#Construction).

    2) No

    Has geekhack ever had anyone develop any custom-made buckling spring pcbs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 February 2014, 19:01:34
    Quote from: Gondorff on Sat, 22 February 2014, 19:00:14
    Has geekhack ever had anyone develop any custom-made buckling spring pcbs?

    It's not a PCB per se, since BS switches don't use PCBs. But wcass has made custom membranes (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40111.0) the buckling spring over membrane switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:38:55
    Do Topre Realforce keycaps have a more consistent profile, particularly the alpha keys? Could some printed caps be rearranged to Colemak / Dvorak for the HHKB, without being too awkward?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:43:43
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:38:55
    Do Topre Realforce keycaps have a more consistent profile, particularly the alpha keys? Could some printed caps be rearranged to Colemak / Dvorak for the HHKB, without being too awkward?
    no unfortunately,topre caps have rows almost like cherry profile i see. IBM M i think don't have rows
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:44:33
    is Cherry stabs plate mount fit on plate 2mm? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 02:14:31
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:44:33
    is Cherry stabs plate mount fit on plate 2mm? :)

    (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/mx_metfrm_cutout.gif)
    Cherry MX datasheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm)

    From the datasheet, there's a picture that shows the min, max, and nominal dimension the plate can be.

    .056 in minimum = 1.4224 mm min
    .060 in nominal = 1.524 mm nominal
    .064 in maximum = 1.6256 mm max

    I think jdcarpe likes to cut his plates at .060" thickness (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47171.msg1007473#msg1007473). He says in that post that .0625" plates can work but you'll need to file it.

    So the answer is no, 2mm is too thick.

    And please don't double post. Edit your previous post next time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 23 February 2014, 03:44:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 02:14:31
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:44:33
    is Cherry stabs plate mount fit on plate 2mm? :)

    Show Image
    (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/mx_metfrm_cutout.gif)

    Cherry MX datasheet (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm)

    From the datasheet, there's a picture that shows the min, max, and nominal dimension the plate can be.

    .056 in minimum = 1.4224 mm min
    .060 in nominal = 1.524 mm nominal
    .064 in maximum = 1.6256 mm max

    I think jdcarpe likes to cut his plates at .060" thickness (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47171.msg1007473#msg1007473). He says in that post that .0625" plates can work but you'll need to file it.

    So the answer is no, 2mm is too thick.

    And please don't double post. Edit your previous post next time.

    I had a plate cut by The_Beast in 16 gauge steel (~1.59 mm, 0.0625") and it is a near-perfect thickness, no filing required.  Just as an added bit of information/experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 23 February 2014, 09:16:19
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:43:43
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:38:55
    Do Topre Realforce keycaps have a more consistent profile, particularly the alpha keys? Could some printed caps be rearranged to Colemak / Dvorak for the HHKB, without being too awkward?
    no unfortunately,topre caps have rows almost like cherry profile i see. IBM M i think don't have rows

    Correct on the IBM M.  Hey have a uniform profile caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 February 2014, 11:51:56
    Made a USB cable, could, in case I did something wrong, testing it on my PC cause any harm to my USB port or the keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 23 February 2014, 12:16:39
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 23 February 2014, 11:51:56
    Made a USB cable, could, in case I did something wrong, testing it on my PC cause any harm to my USB port or the keyboard?

    I doubt it.  I would think worst case scenario would be what you are plugging in would be toasted.  If you are worried about it just test the plugs with a multimeter. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 February 2014, 12:24:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 23 February 2014, 12:16:39
    I doubt it.  I would think worst case scenario would be what you are plugging in would be toasted.  If you are worried about it just test the plugs with a multimeter.

    You know I would kind of mind if my keyboard got fried ;)
    I have no multimeter, but I think I can diy something with a LED.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mechabit on Sun, 23 February 2014, 13:25:20
    Hello. I posted a while ago with a few questions regarding Poker ii, thank you for your answers.

    One more question. Can anyone confirm that n key rollover can be achieved using a USB -> PS2 adapter? I'm a little nervous about doing the firmware update after reading the thread.

    Thank you.

    Edit: Typos
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Sun, 23 February 2014, 16:42:28
    What's the best site to offer various choice/customization and decent prices for PBT (ISO) key caps ? Something euro friendly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 February 2014, 16:51:07
    Quote from: Norz on Sun, 23 February 2014, 16:42:28
    What's the best site to offer various choice/customization and decent prices for PBT (ISO) key caps ? Something euro friendly.

    There is none. You can get PBT ISO caps, but no custom ones, only ABS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Sun, 23 February 2014, 16:52:08
    Damn!

    Ok thanks a bunch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:45:02
    What's the point of aluminium spacebars? How do they feel compared to normal abs or pbt plastic ones? Will the sound be changed a lot?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:54:02
    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:45:02
    What's the point of aluminium spacebars? How do they feel compared to normal abs or pbt plastic ones? Will the sound be changed a lot?

    To me the point was having a space bar that would last longer.

    Its metal so obviously it feels different. Cold and clunky if I had to describe it.

    The sound is different and I would say it depends on switch type and stabilizer type.

    Personally I was completely unimpressed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 23 February 2014, 18:14:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 23 February 2014, 09:16:19
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:43:43
    Quote from: dnix on Sun, 23 February 2014, 00:38:55
    Do Topre Realforce keycaps have a more consistent profile, particularly the alpha keys? Could some printed caps be rearranged to Colemak / Dvorak for the HHKB, without being too awkward?
    no unfortunately,topre caps have rows almost like cherry profile i see. IBM M i think don't have rows

    Correct on the IBM M.  Hey have a uniform profile caps.

    So blank keycaps are my best option, huh...   :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 18:16:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:54:02
    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:45:02
    What's the point of aluminium spacebars? How do they feel compared to normal abs or pbt plastic ones? Will the sound be changed a lot?

    To me the point was having a space bar that would last longer.

    Its metal so obviously it feels different. Cold and clunky if I had to describe it.

    The sound is different and I would say it depends on switch type and stabilizer type.

    Personally I was completely unimpressed.

    Thanks for your input! I think I should pick one up myself just to test it... I really hate the sound from my current spacebars.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Sun, 23 February 2014, 18:31:18
    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 18:16:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:54:02
    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:45:02
    What's the point of aluminium spacebars? How do they feel compared to normal abs or pbt plastic ones? Will the sound be changed a lot?

    To me the point was having a space bar that would last longer.

    Its metal so obviously it feels different. Cold and clunky if I had to describe it.

    The sound is different and I would say it depends on switch type and stabilizer type.

    Personally I was completely unimpressed.

    Thanks for your input! I think I should pick one up myself just to test it... I really hate the sound from my current spacebars.

    I like the variety of finishes and colour on aluminum space bars, but they tend to ping on the upstroke --especially for clicky switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 19:01:23
    Quote from: Zeal on Sun, 23 February 2014, 18:31:18
    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 18:16:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:54:02
    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:45:02
    What's the point of aluminium spacebars? How do they feel compared to normal abs or pbt plastic ones? Will the sound be changed a lot?

    To me the point was having a space bar that would last longer.

    Its metal so obviously it feels different. Cold and clunky if I had to describe it.

    The sound is different and I would say it depends on switch type and stabilizer type.

    Personally I was completely unimpressed.

    Thanks for your input! I think I should pick one up myself just to test it... I really hate the sound from my current spacebars.

    I like the variety of finishes and colour on aluminum space bars, but they tend to ping on the upstroke --especially for clicky switches.

    Mmm, I like the look of them as well. Will see if I can find one I want. '^'
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 19:12:11
    Quote from: mechabit on Sun, 23 February 2014, 13:25:20
    One more question. Can anyone confirm that n key rollover can be achieved using a USB -> PS2 adapter? I'm a little nervous about doing the firmware update after reading the thread.

    I've not heard that many people doing the firmware upgrade in general. I'm not sure what that means though. Either it's not popular or it works without issue. Wish I could help more =(.

    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 23 February 2014, 17:45:02
    1) What's the point of aluminium spacebars?
    2) How do they feel compared to normal abs or pbt plastic ones?
    3) Will the sound be changed a lot?

    1) It's a diff material and can be cool?
    2) It feels like cold metal, like aluminum.
    3) The sound will be different.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 20:54:54
    Can anyone recommend to me a good set of PBT function keys (ctrl, shift, caps lock, etc. all of those kinds of keys around the sides of the letter keys whatever they're called) that are pink with white lettering? I'm looking into this set of white keycaps with pink letters for my black-bodied filco and I thought some pink keycaps with white letters in the right placement would make it look better, or something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 20:55:35
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 20:54:54
    Can anyone recommend to me a good set of PBT function keys (ctrl, shift, caps lock, etc. all of those kinds of keys around the sides of the letter keys whatever they're called) that are pink with white lettering? I'm looking into this set of white keycaps with pink letters for my black-bodied filco and I thought some pink keycaps with white letters in the right placement would make it look better, or something.

    I don't think this colorway in PBT exists unfortunately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:00:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 20:55:35
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 20:54:54
    Can anyone recommend to me a good set of PBT function keys (ctrl, shift, caps lock, etc. all of those kinds of keys around the sides of the letter keys whatever they're called) that are pink with white lettering? I'm looking into this set of white keycaps with pink letters for my black-bodied filco and I thought some pink keycaps with white letters in the right placement would make it look better, or something.

    I don't think this colorway in PBT exists unfortunately.
    well if that's the case i'll be fine with ABS, so long as it's dyesub or double shot. the other set of keycaps I was planning to use along with them were PBT and double shot (these to be exact http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Pink-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099851959) so I'm not so sure if PBT and ABS on the same board are a good idea
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:04:46
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:00:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 20:55:35
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 20:54:54
    Can anyone recommend to me a good set of PBT function keys (ctrl, shift, caps lock, etc. all of those kinds of keys around the sides of the letter keys whatever they're called) that are pink with white lettering? I'm looking into this set of white keycaps with pink letters for my black-bodied filco and I thought some pink keycaps with white letters in the right placement would make it look better, or something.

    I don't think this colorway in PBT exists unfortunately.
    well if that's the case i'll be fine with ABS, so long as it's dyesub or double shot. the other set of keycaps I was planning to use along with them were PBT and double shot (these to be exact http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Pink-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099851959) so I'm not so sure if PBT and ABS on the same board are a good idea

    Ok I think I mis-remembered. Check out these upcoming Vortex caps here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50451.0). And Ducky has some PBT caps in the colorway you want as well. Also check out the Valentine's set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49198.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:11:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:04:46
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:00:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 20:55:35
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 20:54:54
    Can anyone recommend to me a good set of PBT function keys (ctrl, shift, caps lock, etc. all of those kinds of keys around the sides of the letter keys whatever they're called) that are pink with white lettering? I'm looking into this set of white keycaps with pink letters for my black-bodied filco and I thought some pink keycaps with white letters in the right placement would make it look better, or something.

    I don't think this colorway in PBT exists unfortunately.
    well if that's the case i'll be fine with ABS, so long as it's dyesub or double shot. the other set of keycaps I was planning to use along with them were PBT and double shot (these to be exact http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Pink-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099851959) so I'm not so sure if PBT and ABS on the same board are a good idea

    Ok I think I mis-remembered. Check out these upcoming Vortex caps here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50451.0). And Ducky has some PBT caps in the colorway you want as well. Also check out the Valentine's set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49198.0).
    The vortex keys in the thread you just linked are exactly what I'm looking for. It seems that thread was made back in November so has there been any word on them? Because I haven't seen those bi-colored sets on the facebook page anywhere for sale.

    The valentines set is is pretty much what I wanted too althoug I don't think those are PBT, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:18:22
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:11:52
    1) The vortex keys in the thread you just linked are exactly what I'm looking for. It seems that thread was made back in November so has there been any word on them? Because I haven't seen those bi-colored sets on the facebook page anywhere for sale.

    2) The valentines set is is pretty much what I wanted too althoug I don't think those are PBT, right?

    1) I haven't heard anything from them yet.

    2) Yes it's SP DCS ABS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:25:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:18:22
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:11:52
    1) The vortex keys in the thread you just linked are exactly what I'm looking for. It seems that thread was made back in November so has there been any word on them? Because I haven't seen those bi-colored sets on the facebook page anywhere for sale.

    2) The valentines set is is pretty much what I wanted too althoug I don't think those are PBT, right?

    1) I haven't heard anything from them yet.

    2) Yes it's SP DCS ABS.
    I think I'll wait until the vortex keys come in stock then. It seems like if I participated in the valentines group buy it would cost far more to get a full set of 104 keycaps than it would be the vortex keys. Maybe if I send them an email they could inform me on the release time, although I'm not sure where I'd find their contact information.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:26:45
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:25:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:18:22
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:11:52
    1) The vortex keys in the thread you just linked are exactly what I'm looking for. It seems that thread was made back in November so has there been any word on them? Because I haven't seen those bi-colored sets on the facebook page anywhere for sale.

    2) The valentines set is is pretty much what I wanted too althoug I don't think those are PBT, right?

    1) I haven't heard anything from them yet.

    2) Yes it's SP DCS ABS.
    I'm not sure where I'd find their contact information.

    You can try PMing Vortex_JC here and see if he responds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 23 February 2014, 21:28:31
    GL on the vortex. I've been waiting for it too and Vortex seems to have stopped doing it for some reason...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 24 February 2014, 05:32:23
    what is name  fn on AHK? :)  i've tried fn or function not work
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 February 2014, 05:55:28
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 24 February 2014, 05:32:23
    what is name  fn on AHK? :)  i've tried fn or function not work

    The function key has no keycode and can therefore not be simulated. If you press the function key on your keyboard, no signal gets sent to your PC, only if you press a key combination with the function key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 24 February 2014, 10:11:18
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 24 February 2014, 05:55:28
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 24 February 2014, 05:32:23
    what is name  fn on AHK? :)  i've tried fn or function not work

    The function key has no keycode and can therefore not be simulated. If you press the function key on your keyboard, no signal gets sent to your PC, only if you press a key combination with the function key.

    yup because the function key is handled at the keyboard firmware level.  I wonder if it would be possible to create function layer inside AHK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 February 2014, 10:17:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 24 February 2014, 10:11:18
    yup because the function key is handled at the keyboard firmware level.  I wonder if it would be possible to create function layer inside AHK?

    If you would use for example one of the Windows keys as the FN key, absolutely.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 24 February 2014, 11:28:15
    Who ran the original SoWare set GB? Was it Sherry?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 February 2014, 11:29:29
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 24 February 2014, 11:28:15
    Who ran the original SoWare set GB? Was it Sherry?

    It was a Korean GB, to go along with The Cheat keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 24 February 2014, 11:30:18
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 February 2014, 11:29:29
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 24 February 2014, 11:28:15
    Who ran the original SoWare set GB? Was it Sherry?

    It was a Korean GB, to go along with The Cheat keyboard.

    Ok thanks JD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 24 February 2014, 18:48:17
    Has anyone bought from this seller for the Victorinox Multi-Tool Oil?

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/v43301-Swiss-Army-Knife-Multi-Tool-Oil-Corrosion-Protection-/251355911402?pt=AU_Sport_Camping_Hiking_Tools&hash=item3a85fad4ea&_uhb=1

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: laqq3 on Mon, 24 February 2014, 19:43:44
    One of the keys on my 1-year old Unicomp keyboard is no longer as clicky as the others; probably the spring has worn down.

    Is there a way that I can fix this myself?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 24 February 2014, 20:02:04
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 24 February 2014, 18:48:17
    Has anyone bought from this seller for the Victorinox Multi-Tool Oil?

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/v43301-Swiss-Army-Knife-Multi-Tool-Oil-Corrosion-Protection-/251355911402?pt=AU_Sport_Camping_Hiking_Tools&hash=item3a85fad4ea&_uhb=1

    Thanks!

    They've got 100% positive feedback, go for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 February 2014, 20:38:43
    Quote from: laqq3 on Mon, 24 February 2014, 19:43:44
    One of the keys on my 1-year old Unicomp keyboard is no longer as clicky as the others; probably the spring has worn down.

    Is there a way that I can fix this myself?

    Thanks!

    Try reseating the cap first. If not, you can order replacement parts from Unicomp.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 24 February 2014, 20:59:53
    Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 24 February 2014, 20:02:04
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 24 February 2014, 18:48:17
    Has anyone bought from this seller for the Victorinox Multi-Tool Oil?

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/v43301-Swiss-Army-Knife-Multi-Tool-Oil-Corrosion-Protection-/251355911402?pt=AU_Sport_Camping_Hiking_Tools&hash=item3a85fad4ea&_uhb=1

    Thanks!

    They've got 100% positive feedback, go for it.

    Will do, thank you sir!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 24 February 2014, 21:36:34
    How to get rid of printed PBT i want make blank?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 24 February 2014, 21:37:57
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 24 February 2014, 21:36:34
    How to get rid of printed PBT i want make blank?

    Sandpaper?

    But for dyesub and doubleshot, that would take forever
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 24 February 2014, 21:56:57
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 24 February 2014, 21:37:57
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 24 February 2014, 21:36:34
    How to get rid of printed PBT i want make blank?

    Sandpaper?

    But for dyesub and doubleshot, that would take forever

    Dye sub it would not be possible since the legend goes all the way through the cap.  Think plated through hole on a dual sided PCB.  for dyesub you might be able to use acetone but make 100% sure it is PBT and not ABS.  That or sandpaper.  But I would rather use some pretty fine stuff.  And do this by hand.  But personally I would either buy a new set or see if you can trade someone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 24 February 2014, 22:01:41
    actually the keycap is keycool PBT not dyesub just printed regular,
    so better uses acetone or Sandpaper(I'm afraid of damaging the surface)though..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 24 February 2014, 22:09:41
    if you are 100% sure it is PBT then acetone shouldn't damage them.  There was a test done on a youtube clip (i think it was for PBT dye sub back light friendly caps) where they applied acetone to the caps and it did nothing to the cap aside from the legend on the dye subs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 24 February 2014, 22:13:11
    acetone might or might not damage the printing. I would recommend trying it.

    Acetone does not affect the base PBT at all. I have used it several times on the underside of PBT keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 25 February 2014, 02:03:55
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 24 February 2014, 21:36:34
    How to get rid of printed PBT i want make blank?

    Please report back after you tried the tipps from this thread.

    I also want to remove the legends from the Stock Poker II PBT keys without affecting the base keycap.

    If Acetone is really the answer, I'll try it too :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 07:24:41
    So pertaining to the message I sent the eBay seller from my alps thread, he responded saying he would remove a keycap but he's not sure how. Honestly I don't have much experience myself removing keycaps without the proper tools so basically

    What advice can I give this guy on removing an alps keycap by hand? (I thought this question was more appropriate here)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 07:56:54
    Quote from: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 07:24:41
    What advice can I give this guy on removing an alps keycap by hand?

    Get a wire keypuller, I find those work best for Alps keycaps. You can use other tools, as shown in the OP, but the wire keypuller is the best. Rock the keycap back and forth from corner to corner. Check out this guide (http://imgur.com/a/nsEDr). It will be hard to pull off, Alps caps are hard to remove.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 08:15:40
    Is there anywhere to find MX green switches? I've only ever seen them on QFR's , does CM have some kind of exclusive deal w/ Cherry?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 08:20:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 08:15:40
    1) Is there anywhere to find MX green switches?
    2) Does CM have some kind of exclusive deal w/ Cherry?

    1) 7bit's Group Buy on Deskthority. Not sure if there's other sources right now. You could also try Ghetto Greens.
    2) No. Ducky has MX Green boards as well. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39365.msg769682#msg769682)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 08:33:55
    Alright, sent the message to the seller with your advice and included some pics from that guide on imgur

    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 08:15:40
    Is there anywhere to find MX green switches? I've only ever seen them on QFR's , does CM have some kind of exclusive deal w/ Cherry?
    there's this: http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/item/shop-mechanical-keyboard-by-sw/leopold-fc660m-mechanical-keyb/lid=36574115
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 13:47:11
    Could someone quickly tell me the ideal wattage you would want in a soldering iron for working on PCBs.  Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 13:49:07
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 13:47:11
    Could someone quickly tell me the ideal wattage you would want in a soldering iron for working on PCBs.  Thanks.

    Hakko 888D runs at 65 Watts (http://www.hakko.com/english/products/hakko_fx888d_set.html#productNav). Is there a reason you need wattage? Normally people ask about temperature.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:12:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 13:49:07
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 13:47:11
    Could someone quickly tell me the ideal wattage you would want in a soldering iron for working on PCBs.  Thanks.

    Hakko 888D runs at 65 Watts (http://www.hakko.com/english/products/hakko_fx888d_set.html#productNav). Is there a reason you need wattage? Normally people ask about temperature.

    The cheap ones I'm looking at at the source are only displaying the wattage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:14:18
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:12:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 13:49:07
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 13:47:11
    Could someone quickly tell me the ideal wattage you would want in a soldering iron for working on PCBs.  Thanks.

    Hakko 888D runs at 65 Watts (http://www.hakko.com/english/products/hakko_fx888d_set.html#productNav). Is there a reason you need wattage? Normally people ask about temperature.

    The cheap ones I'm looking at at the source are only displaying the wattage.

    Ah I see. Well I know people have soldered with a Radio Shack 15W iron so it really depends on what kind of iron you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:17:45
    Yeah thanks. Ill probably pick up the 60 watt one. Any recommendations on solder? Just for a switch change.
    http://www.thesource.ca/estore/category.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Soldering+Tools&sort=1&pagenum=1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:20:45
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:17:45
    Yeah thanks. Ill probably pick up the 60 watt one. Any recommendations on solder? Just for a switch change.
    http://www.thesource.ca/estore/category.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Soldering+Tools&sort=1&pagenum=1

    If you're asking to pick something from the link you gave, I think this will be fine (http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Soldering+Tools&product=6400007&MSCSProfile=1D3D06FBE7C3B4A12BF6B506208442D2F158F885AAC5D28E26F737BFD6256CCDABD0FC031ED5A61224CAB06F0B690EBBDC78DF6705F1E2BF42FBEC9B5B111FFDE8A691B1BF12C2438C74427C7FF690E7B3140FC8FFDFD8568FF7650B5775BC72931680FFB98B70AD5F6006C710C6E2D984CEB84E950283A4DD48CBF881FDEF7D817CF04352755AA8). You know there's a soldering thread you can look through for help too right? Just FYI.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:25:31
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:17:45
    Yeah thanks. Ill probably pick up the 60 watt one. Any recommendations on solder? Just for a switch change.
    http://www.thesource.ca/estore/category.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Soldering+Tools&sort=1&pagenum=1

    I wouldn't get a 60w soldering iron as it might get too hot for the PCB. You should be okay with 25W/35W/40W irons.

    I'd also get an iron that has replaceable tips that can be easily found (Weller, for example).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:26:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:20:45
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:17:45
    Yeah thanks. Ill probably pick up the 60 watt one. Any recommendations on solder? Just for a switch change.
    http://www.thesource.ca/estore/category.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Soldering+Tools&sort=1&pagenum=1

    If you're asking to pick something from the link you gave, I think this will be fine (http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Soldering+Tools&product=6400007&MSCSProfile=1D3D06FBE7C3B4A12BF6B506208442D2F158F885AAC5D28E26F737BFD6256CCDABD0FC031ED5A61224CAB06F0B690EBBDC78DF6705F1E2BF42FBEC9B5B111FFDE8A691B1BF12C2438C74427C7FF690E7B3140FC8FFDFD8568FF7650B5775BC72931680FFB98B70AD5F6006C710C6E2D984CEB84E950283A4DD48CBF881FDEF7D817CF04352755AA8). You know there's a soldering thread you can look through for help too right? Just FYI.

    Here is a link the the soldering thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:27:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:25:31
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:17:45
    Yeah thanks. Ill probably pick up the 60 watt one. Any recommendations on solder? Just for a switch change.
    http://www.thesource.ca/estore/category.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Soldering+Tools&sort=1&pagenum=1

    I wouldn't get a 60w soldering iron as it might get too hot for the PCB. You should be okay with 25W/35W/40W irons.

    If it's a fixed temperature soldering iron, I'm not sure how the wattage plays a factor in temperature. I think dreamre might be right since mkawa's learn to solder kit has an iron that only goes up to 30W (http://www.edsyn.com/index.php?Mode=piw&pn=CL1481). But again, I'm not 100% sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:31:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:27:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:25:31
    Quote from: stancato9 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 14:17:45
    Yeah thanks. Ill probably pick up the 60 watt one. Any recommendations on solder? Just for a switch change.
    http://www.thesource.ca/estore/category.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Soldering+Tools&sort=1&pagenum=1

    I wouldn't get a 60w soldering iron as it might get too hot for the PCB. You should be okay with 25W/35W/40W irons.

    If it's a fixed temperature soldering iron, I'm not sure how the wattage plays a factor in temperature. I think dreamre might be right since mkawa's learn to solder kit has an iron that only goes up to 30W (http://www.edsyn.com/index.php?Mode=piw&pn=CL1481). But again, I'm not 100% sure.

    Depending on the iron you get, some irons regulate temperature while some don't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:15:46
    Is it there a place to obtain these keycaps:

    (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_472_DuckyDYE_blMAIN.jpg)

    Without buying the keyboard? I thought for sure there are people who bought these caps separately some how. Really interested in getting them for the filco MJ2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:18:39
    Quote from: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:15:46
    Is it there a place to obtain these keycaps:

    Show Image
    (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_472_DuckyDYE_blMAIN.jpg)


    Without buying the keyboard? I thought for sure there are people who bought these caps separately some how. Really interested in getting them for the filco MJ2.

    I thought MK.com had them at one point. Maybe Ducky has them directly on their site? I'm not sure off the top of my head where to get those though. You can try finding an Imsto PBT set that is similar to that color scheme though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:22:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:18:39
    Quote from: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:15:46
    Is it there a place to obtain these keycaps:

    Show Image
    (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_472_DuckyDYE_blMAIN.jpg)


    Without buying the keyboard? I thought for sure there are people who bought these caps separately some how. Really interested in getting them for the filco MJ2.

    I thought MK.com had them at one point. Maybe Ducky has them directly on their site? I'm not sure off the top of my head where to get those though. You can try finding an Imsto PBT set that is similar to that color scheme though.
    MK.com has all the boards with those keycaps but not the caps alone, and neither does ducky's site. Imsto only has 4 listings for whole sets right now and while there is both an entire blue and dark grey set, they aren't the combination with the ducky unfortunately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 25 February 2014, 21:47:20
    Relating to plate manufacturing would .100" be enough space between holes?  Or would this warp real bad? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 25 February 2014, 23:36:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 25 February 2014, 21:47:20
    Relating to plate manufacturing would .100" be enough space between holes?  Or would this warp real bad? 
    Thickness of plate/type of hole (round, square, keyswitch, stabilizer)/plate material ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 25 February 2014, 23:49:35
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 25 February 2014, 23:36:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 25 February 2014, 21:47:20
    Relating to plate manufacturing would .100" be enough space between holes?  Or would this warp real bad? 
    Thickness of plate/type of hole (round, square, keyswitch, stabilizer)/plate material ?

    modified keyswitch hole 304 stainless standard thickness.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 26 February 2014, 01:29:35
    Do these come with non-duck replacements for the win keys?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=699
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 February 2014, 06:50:56
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 26 February 2014, 01:29:35
    Do these come with non-duck replacements for the win keys?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=699

    I'm pretty sure what you see is what you get.  I don't recall any recent ducky boards with any extra keys for the win keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 08:13:43
    Quote from: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:22:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:18:39
    Quote from: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:15:46
    Is it there a place to obtain these keycaps:

    Show Image
    (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_472_DuckyDYE_blMAIN.jpg)


    Without buying the keyboard? I thought for sure there are people who bought these caps separately some how. Really interested in getting them for the filco MJ2.

    I thought MK.com had them at one point. Maybe Ducky has them directly on their site? I'm not sure off the top of my head where to get those though. You can try finding an Imsto PBT set that is similar to that color scheme though.
    MK.com has all the boards with those keycaps but not the caps alone, and neither does ducky's site. Imsto only has 4 listings for whole sets right now and while there is both an entire blue and dark grey set, they aren't the combination with the ducky unfortunately.

    A Keycool vendor just posted this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55265.0) which might interest you Rena.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 February 2014, 06:50:56
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 26 February 2014, 01:29:35
    Do these come with non-duck replacements for the win keys?
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=699

    I'm pretty sure what you see is what you get.  I don't recall any recent ducky boards with any extra keys for the win keys.

    I would agree with Ray. The OMG board that I just opened didn't have replacement keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Wed, 26 February 2014, 08:59:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 08:13:43
    Quote from: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:22:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:18:39
    Quote from: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:15:46
    Is it there a place to obtain these keycaps:

    Show Image
    (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_472_DuckyDYE_blMAIN.jpg)


    Without buying the keyboard? I thought for sure there are people who bought these caps separately some how. Really interested in getting them for the filco MJ2.

    I thought MK.com had them at one point. Maybe Ducky has them directly on their site? I'm not sure off the top of my head where to get those though. You can try finding an Imsto PBT set that is similar to that color scheme though.
    MK.com has all the boards with those keycaps but not the caps alone, and neither does ducky's site. Imsto only has 4 listings for whole sets right now and while there is both an entire blue and dark grey set, they aren't the combination with the ducky unfortunately.

    A Keycool vendor just posted this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55265.0) which might interest you Rena.
    oh yeah, I think I'll definitely be getting these. Is this something I'd have to buy through a proxy or will it be made available by an English retailer soon?

    I don't have much experience buying keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 09:03:23
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 08:13:43
    Quote from: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:22:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:18:39
    Quote from: Rena on Tue, 25 February 2014, 18:15:46
    Is it there a place to obtain these keycaps:

    Show Image
    (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_472_DuckyDYE_blMAIN.jpg)


    Without buying the keyboard? I thought for sure there are people who bought these caps separately some how. Really interested in getting them for the filco MJ2.

    I thought MK.com had them at one point. Maybe Ducky has them directly on their site? I'm not sure off the top of my head where to get those though. You can try finding an Imsto PBT set that is similar to that color scheme though.
    MK.com has all the boards with those keycaps but not the caps alone, and neither does ducky's site. Imsto only has 4 listings for whole sets right now and while there is both an entire blue and dark grey set, they aren't the combination with the ducky unfortunately.

    A Keycool vendor just posted this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55265.0) which might interest you Rena.


    Quote from: Rena on Wed, 26 February 2014, 08:59:05
    oh yeah, I think I'll definitely be getting these. Is this something I'd have to buy through a proxy or will it be made available by an English retailer soon?

    I don't have much experience buying keycaps.

    I'm honestly not sure where they're going to be available. Best way to find out is to ask in the thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nkzt on Wed, 26 February 2014, 09:43:22
    I'm going to buy keycaps from SP.
    Are SP's row 5 keycaps suitable for common Cherry MX keyboards, like Filco?
    Many manufacturers use row 1 keycaps for function keys. I'm afraid that the row 5 keycaps are not compatible with such keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 February 2014, 10:05:28
    Quote from: nkzt on Wed, 26 February 2014, 09:43:22
    I'm going to buy keycaps from SP.
    Are SP's row 5 keycaps suitable for common Cherry MX keyboards, like Filco?
    Many manufacturers use row 1 keycaps for function keys. I'm afraid that the row 5 keycaps are not compatible with such keyboards.

    I'm not totally sure what you mean. If the keycaps have Cherry MX stems, they're compatible with Cherry MX keyboards (Filco included). Could you link to the exact keycaps you're planning to buy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nkzt on Wed, 26 February 2014, 10:13:56
    Thanks riotonthebay.
    I'm going to buy blank keycaps. http://keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/DCSFamily.pdf (http://keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/DCSFamily.pdf)
    Row 5 is taller than row 1 and the sides' slopes are different. I'm afraid that those differences may cause some problem what I don't know yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 February 2014, 10:16:43
    Quote from: nkzt on Wed, 26 February 2014, 10:13:56
    Thanks riotonthebay.
    I'm going to buy blank keycaps. http://keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/DCSFamily.pdf (http://keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/DCSFamily.pdf)
    Row 5 is taller than row 1 and the sides' slopes are different. I'm afraid that those differences may cause some problem what I don't know yet.

    There won't be any issues adding them to your board, but I don't think that kind of uniform profile will be comfortable to type on. This page (http://keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php) shows the usual row configuration for DCS-profile keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nkzt on Wed, 26 February 2014, 10:24:04
    Thanks. I'll avoid row 5.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 26 February 2014, 14:22:05
    Has anyone here lost a screw inside the keyboard's plate before? If so, what tool did you use to recover it? Desoldering is not an option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 February 2014, 14:56:45
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 26 February 2014, 14:22:05
    Has anyone here lost a screw inside the keyboard's plate before? If so, what tool did you use to recover it? Desoldering is not an option.

    Remove enough keycaps to take the plate/PCB out of the case, and then just shake out the screw. Or am I missing something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gh_pp on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:13:58
    So I tried everything I can to fix the rattling of the spacebar on my QFR

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52342.msg1158992#msg1158992

    I'm still not satisfied with the result, the spacebar is just not as solid as other keys (especially the sound).

    Will cherry stabilizer be better in that regard?
    If yes I guess I'll go with cherry stab for my phantom build.

    What are some of the good TKL with cherry stabilizer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:17:47
    Quote from: gh_pp on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:13:58
    So I tried everything I can to fix the rattling of the spacebar on my QFR

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52342.msg1158992#msg1158992

    I'm still not satisfied with the result, the spacebar is just not as solid as other keys (especially the sound).

    Will cherry stabilizer be better in that regard?
    If yes I guess I'll go with cherry stab for my phantom build.

    What are some of the good TKL with cherry stabilizer?

    imo best cherry stabs are PCB mounted and clipped. And I think phantom only allows costar, but not 100% sure on that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:24:05
    Phantom allows costar and cherry plate mount.. Cherry plate mount is just as good as cherry pcb mount when clipped imo
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:24:12
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:17:47
    Quote from: gh_pp on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:13:58
    So I tried everything I can to fix the rattling of the spacebar on my QFR

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52342.msg1158992#msg1158992

    I'm still not satisfied with the result, the spacebar is just not as solid as other keys (especially the sound).

    Will cherry stabilizer be better in that regard?
    If yes I guess I'll go with cherry stab for my phantom build.

    What are some of the good TKL with cherry stabilizer?

    imo best cherry stabs are PCB mounted and clipped. And I think phantom only allows costar, but not 100% sure on that.

    My phantom had cherry stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:24:18
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 February 2014, 14:56:45
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 26 February 2014, 14:22:05
    Has anyone here lost a screw inside the keyboard's plate before? If so, what tool did you use to recover it? Desoldering is not an option.

    Remove enough keycaps to take the plate/PCB out of the case, and then just shake out the screw. Or am I missing something?

    I would agree with riotonthebay. But I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "losing it in the plate".

    Quote from: gh_pp on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:13:58
    1) So I tried everything I can to fix the rattling of the spacebar on my QFR

    2) Will cherry stabilizer be better in that regard?

    3) What are some of the good TKL with cherry stabilizer?

    1) Did you try a new spacebar? Your previous spacebar could be warped. Just because you looked at it and it doesn't *look* warped, doesn't mean it's not warped somehow.

    2) I've never had a rattling spacebar so I can't say if that will fix your problem. But I prefer clipped Cherry stabilizers over anything else. I think they're very stable and smooth. The clipping makes the bottom-out feel crisp like the Costar Stabilizers. However, stabilizers seem to be a personal preference thing more than anything else.

    3) There's an impartial list in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41953.0). I don't really know keyboards by stabilizers though.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:17:47
    And I think phantom only allows costar, but not 100% sure on that.

    No, Phantom allows for Cherry or Costar (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_instruction_guide#Hardware) stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:50:49
    is there a guide on direct wiring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:58:55
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:50:49
    is there a guide on direct wiring?

    Um, not a guide per se but Matt30 took some really good pictures and I know TheFlyingRaccoon has used that as a guide for his keyboard. Check this out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45139.msg942463#msg942463).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 16:23:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:58:55
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:50:49
    is there a guide on direct wiring?

    Um, not a guide per se but Matt30 took some really good pictures and I know TheFlyingRaccoon has used that as a guide for his keyboard. Check this out (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45139.msg942463#msg942463).

    This link is about as good as it gets.

    http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/workshop-threads-of-interest-t7192.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JPG on Wed, 26 February 2014, 18:42:06
    Hey, I know there's some information on O-rings and the likes, but does some apply to alps keyboard? I don't own one, but a coworker won an alps keyboard. The problem is that the bottom out sound is super loud. I let him try my filco with browns and o-ring and he found it perfect. Yet, since the alp stem is rectangular, my O-rings won't fit and even landing pads have a round opening.

    So anyone has used so kind of technique to lower the bottom out sound of alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 18:44:51
    Quote from: JPG on Wed, 26 February 2014, 18:42:06
    Hey, I know there's some information on O-rings and the likes, but does some apply to alps keyboard? I don't own one, but a coworker won an alps keyboard. The problem is that the bottom out sound is super loud. I let him try my filco with browns and o-ring and he found it perfect. Yet, since the alp stem is rectangular, my O-rings won't fit and even landing pads have a round opening.

    So anyone has used so kind of technique to lower the bottom out sound of alps?

    I've never tried it but I think it would work. WhiteFireDragon has pictures and a video about o-rings and Alps here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25789.msg486276#msg486276).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 26 February 2014, 19:56:13
    Quote from: JPG on Wed, 26 February 2014, 18:42:06
    Hey, I know there's some information on O-rings and the likes, but does some apply to alps keyboard? I don't own one, but a coworker won an alps keyboard. The problem is that the bottom out sound is super loud. I let him try my filco with browns and o-ring and he found it perfect. Yet, since the alp stem is rectangular, my O-rings won't fit and even landing pads have a round opening.

    So anyone has used so kind of technique to lower the bottom out sound of alps?

    I put some thin O rings on a few switches on my AT101W and it fits
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 20:59:49
    Is there a generally accepted date that distinguished "vintage" switches vs modern switches?

    The reason I ask is the re-branded WYSE I am converting to hand matrix with NKRO has a silk screened date of '85 on the pcb but the hand stamped date is '95. 

    So would these be considered modern or vintage.  I have already lubed them but they do feel noticeably stiffer than the blacks in the wife's Filco.  And this is coming from her.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 26 February 2014, 21:11:57
    "Vintage" have a different logo on the switch top than "new" blacks.  I've had old keyboards from the 80s and even 90s with one or the other or a mixture of both.  I've even seen ones with "new," "vintage," and what I'll call "old" Blacks that had a different logo on the housing that the other two.  It's not really a date thing.  Personally, I've had "vintage" Blacks that felt like crap and "new" and "old" ones that felt great.  I'd just use whatever you like best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 21:15:46
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 26 February 2014, 21:11:57
    "Vintage" have a different logo on the switch top than "new" blacks.  I've had old keyboards from the 80s and even 90s with one or the other or a mixture of both.  I've even seen ones with "new," "vintage," and what I'll call "old" Blacks that had a different logo on the housing that the other two.  It's not really a date thing.  Personally, I've had "vintage" Blacks that felt like crap and "new" and "old" ones that felt great.  I'd just use whatever you like best.

    Awesome thanks nubs.  Is there any link that has an image of the different logos so I can compare?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 26 February 2014, 21:17:20
    This is the only one that I know of (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38921.0).  Even with that, it can be hard to tell what's what.  You kind of have to sort based on gut instinct first impression, come back and check, then figure out which is which.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 21:23:45
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 26 February 2014, 21:17:20
    This is the only one that I know of (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38921.0).  Even with that, it can be hard to tell what's what.  You kind of have to sort based on gut instinct first impression, come back and check, then figure out which is which.

    Awesome thanks Nub.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Gaahl on Wed, 26 February 2014, 23:23:35
    Does anyone use the dvorak layout? I am thinking about switching because I am pretty slow with QWERTY and I think that switching might help me improve my speed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 23:50:30
    Quote from: Gaahl on Wed, 26 February 2014, 23:23:35
    Does anyone use the dvorak layout? I am thinking about switching because I am pretty slow with QWERTY and I think that switching might help me improve my speed.

    Using Dvorak (or any other layout) is not really about speed but more about comfort.  While some people have reported speed increases it is rarely a significant increase.  From what I have read most people get up to their original qwerty speed between 3 and 6 months depending on how you go about the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 00:26:11
    Anybody know how to open the 8113? It doesn't have screws but rather has a bunch of tabs. I don't really need the case that much, I just want to get to the PCB and desolder the switches. Is just taking a knife to the case an easy way to take it apart or will that not suffice?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Thu, 27 February 2014, 00:29:40
    I've been looking at the 40-L Red O-ring sound dampeners and came across this item (http://www.ebay.com/itm/150pcs-Keycap-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners-RED-For-CHERRY-MX-Replace-Part-/261290084734) after a quick eBay search, which is cheaper than the WASD variety and appears to be the same thickness.

    Are these the same?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 00:33:03
    Quote from: Coreda on Thu, 27 February 2014, 00:29:40
    I've been looking at the 40-L Red O-ring sound dampeners and came across this item (http://www.ebay.com/itm/150pcs-Keycap-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners-RED-For-CHERRY-MX-Replace-Part-/261290084734) after a quick eBay search, which is cheaper than the WASD variety and appears to be the same thickness.

    Are these the same?

    Not the exact same, but do the same job much cheaper
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 February 2014, 07:22:50
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 00:26:11
    Anybody know how to open the 8113? It doesn't have screws but rather has a bunch of tabs. I don't really need the case that much, I just want to get to the PCB and desolder the switches. Is just taking a knife to the case an easy way to take it apart or will that not suffice?

    Sounds like it's just snap fits. Pop them open. I would use something softer like a credit card or the tool that comes with QFR tops. A knife will work but might scratch your plastic.

    Quote from: Coreda on Thu, 27 February 2014, 00:29:40
    I've been looking at the 40-L Red O-ring sound dampeners and came across this item (http://www.ebay.com/itm/150pcs-Keycap-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners-RED-For-CHERRY-MX-Replace-Part-/261290084734) after a quick eBay search, which is cheaper than the WASD variety and appears to be the same thickness.

    Are these the same?

    I don't know if the durometer rating is the same since the eBay listing doesn't say what hardness they are. The dimensions for the OD and ID are about the same (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53990.0#post_dim) as the WASD ones. And the thickness is 1.5mm versus the 2mm thickness of the WASD ones. So the o-rings aren't as thick. I have no experience with these o-rings though so I can't comment on how they feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 27 February 2014, 07:32:15
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 00:26:11
    Anybody know how to open the 8113? It doesn't have screws but rather has a bunch of tabs. I don't really need the case that much, I just want to get to the PCB and desolder the switches. Is just taking a knife to the case an easy way to take it apart or will that not suffice?

    I used a nylon stick to pry the tabs directly. If you don't have one a flathead works nicely.

    Don't work around the seam as you would normally do, instead just pry the tabs directly. Should come open pretty quick after that.
    ---
    When hunting fro "vintage" blacks, I noticed three different logos on the shells. It was hard to say which was which. People who say the logo is different are only telling 2/3 of the story.

    You will have to identify three logos and determine which one(s) correspond to "vintage" switches. There was a picture on DT that showed them clearly, but I can't find it now. I think tsangan had it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 February 2014, 09:29:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 20:59:49
    Is there a generally accepted date that distinguished "vintage" switches vs modern switches?

    The reason I ask is the re-branded WYSE I am converting to hand matrix with NKRO has a silk screened date of '85 on the pcb but the hand stamped date is '95. 

    So would these be considered modern or vintage.  I have already lubed them but they do feel noticeably stiffer than the blacks in the wife's Filco.  And this is coming from her.

    Check out this post from WhiskyTango (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47288.msg1006211#msg1006211) who talks about WYSE and vintage blacks.

    Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 27 February 2014, 07:32:15
    When hunting for "vintage" blacks, I noticed three different logos on the shells. It was hard to say which was which. People who say the logo is different are only telling 2/3 of the story.

    You will have to identify three logos and determine which one(s) correspond to "vintage" switches. There was a picture on DT that showed them clearly, but I can't find it now. I think tsangan had it.

    I think you might be referring to this thread (http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/cherry-mx-old-vs-new-t139.html) dorkvader?

    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 23:50:30
    Quote from: Gaahl on Wed, 26 February 2014, 23:23:35
    Does anyone use the dvorak layout? I am thinking about switching because I am pretty slow with QWERTY and I think that switching might help me improve my speed.

    Using Dvorak (or any other layout) is not really about speed but more about comfort.  While some people have reported speed increases it is rarely a significant increase.  From what I have read most people get up to their original qwerty speed between 3 and 6 months depending on how you go about the switch.

    This isn't really a simple question and I don't think the discussion belongs in this thread. Please check out some of the dvorak/layout threads or make a new thread for discussion. This is a personal preference based on ergonomics and other factors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Thu, 27 February 2014, 11:31:58
    After a long hiatus, I am back!

    I got a silenced 10th AE Realforce 87u and replaced the domes with 55g domes, and all keys work perfectly (thing types like a charm!) but when I hit a key and let it go, there's a sound like a spring vibrating or rebounding.

    Does anyone know what could possibly be causing this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 27 February 2014, 11:34:10
    Quote from: goobus on Thu, 27 February 2014, 11:31:58
    After a long hiatus, I am back!

    I got a silenced 10th AE Realforce 87u and replaced the domes with 55g domes, and all keys work perfectly (thing types like a charm!) but when I hit a key and let it go, there's a sound like a spring vibrating or rebounding.

    Does anyone know what could possibly be causing this?

    Like is described in this thread?

     http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46648.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46648.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goobus on Thu, 27 February 2014, 11:50:58
    Yes! Spamray you are genius.

    Guess I have to wait and see. Weird that the sound only started when I took apart and reassembled.

    Thanks a whole bunch.

    Also I have a LZ-FE and KMAC 2 I still haven't had time to put together...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:01:47
    Keycaps in the dishwasher. Has anyone tried it? Any reason why I shouldn't clean my caps in there?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:15:12
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:01:47
    Keycaps in the dishwasher. Has anyone tried it? Any reason why I shouldn't clean my caps in there?
    I've tried it with thin abs caps it cleaned them good nothing damaged.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:19:45
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:01:47
    Keycaps in the dishwasher. Has anyone tried it? Any reason why I shouldn't clean my caps in there?

    I don't really see an issue, just make sure it's not on the bottom rack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 27 February 2014, 13:15:55
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:01:47
    Keycaps in the dishwasher. Has anyone tried it? Any reason why I shouldn't clean my caps in there?

    I've done it too.  Put them in a mesh potato bag and it worked great.  I then used denture cleaner to get what was left off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:24:12
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Thu, 27 February 2014, 13:15:55
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:01:47
    Keycaps in the dishwasher. Has anyone tried it? Any reason why I shouldn't clean my caps in there?

    I've done it too.  Put them in a mesh potato bag and it worked great.  I then used denture cleaner to get what was left off.

    Ohh, that's a good idea. I was going to put them all into a colander but was worried the jet stream would pop them out and I'd be greeted by melted plastic on the bottom of my dishwasher.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:56:28
    Can Alps switches be dissassembled and cleaned?  I picked up an AEK with white-ish alps.  Some seem to have a slight click but most do not.  The board chow isn't to bad but the caps are pretty grubby.  The color on the caps is still pretty good.  I would assume dye subbed pbt with an abs spacebar?  The space bar is pretty yellow.  I didn't break anything pulling the caps off or the plate/pcb assembly out but man those caps are on tight.  Picked it up for $5.  This one did not come with a cable but has the port on both sides of the case.  If I remember right this was for mouse pass through.  Was this just a standard PS/2 cable?

    Also anything I should watch out for when dissassembling a Lexmark Model M from '93?  I did rip the clips off the spacebar when I pulled that one off but I should be able to replace that from unicomp.  The board chow on this one is massive.  I just need to buy a nut driver to get at the bolts holding the case together.  It has a PS/2 connector on it so would this be NKRO?  I got this one for $5 as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:00:22
    So does the Leopold FC700R have a completely standard key layout? Because I thought it didn't at one spot since the space bar used a proprietary design and they keycaps were shorter, or something. More importantly I just need to know if it would fit the keycaps from the valentines group buy completely.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:02:12
    Quote from: Rena on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:00:22
    So does the Leopold FC700R have a completely standard key layout? Because I thought it didn't at one spot since the space bar used a proprietary design, or something. More importantly I just need to know if it would fit the keycaps from the valentines group buy completely.
    The spacebar has a unique stem spacing on the FC700R. Unfortunately, it will not be able to use any other spacebar besides the Leopold one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:02:21
    Quote from: Rena on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:00:22
    So does the Leopold FC700R have a completely standard key layout? Because I thought it didn't at one spot since the space bar used a proprietary design, or something. More importantly I just need to know if it would fit the keycaps from the valentines group buy completely.

    NO LEOPOLD KEYBOARD EXCEPT THE FC200R WILL WORK WITH ANY AFTERMARKET SPACEBARS.

    Why Leopold, why?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:17:40
    Given the color scheme I'm trying to have I could still live with keeping the space there, but isn't it a lot shorter too?

    I just measured it on my FC660M and the height is about 0.5cm at the shortest spot and 0.8cm at the tallest, as opposed to my Filco's approximate 1.2cm height
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:22:45
    I don't have an FC700R anymore to measure the spacebar height, but OEM height is usually taller than SP's DCS-profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:33:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:56:28
    1) Can Alps switches be dissassembled and cleaned? 

    2) I would assume dye subbed pbt with an abs spacebar? 

    3) Was this just a standard PS/2 cable?

    4) Also anything I should watch out for when dissassembling a Lexmark Model M from '93?

    5)  It has a PS/2 connector on it so would this be NKRO?
    1) Look at the OP, there's a guide to modding your Alps switches. Yes you can open and clean them.

    2) I think you're correct.

    3) No, it had an ADB connection.

    4) I recommend watching phosphorglow's video on how to properly bolt mod and clean any Model M

    5) I think its only 2KRO because of the membrane. NKRO is on Fs.

    Quote from: Rena on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:17:40
    Given the color scheme I'm trying to have I could still live with keeping the space there, but isn't it a lot shorter too?

    I just measured it and the height is about 0.5cm at the shortest spot and 0.8cm at the tallest, as opposed to my Filco's approximate 1.2cm height

    The profile on the 700R is indeed shorter than the Filco OEM and SP DCS profiles. I'm traveling so no measurements from me. But the 700R caps I had were almost DSA flat/height.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 27 February 2014, 16:01:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:33:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:56:28
    1) Can Alps switches be dissassembled and cleaned? 

    2) I would assume dye subbed pbt with an abs spacebar? 

    3) Was this just a standard PS/2 cable?

    4) Also anything I should watch out for when dissassembling a Lexmark Model M from '93?

    5)  It has a PS/2 connector on it so would this be NKRO?
    1) Look at the OP, there's a guide to modding your Alps switches. Yes you can open and clean them.

    2) I think you're correct.

    3) No, it had an ADB connection.

    4) I recommend watching phosphorglow's video on how to properly bolt mod and clean any Model M

    5) I think its only 2KRO because of the membrane. NKRO is on Fs.

    Quote from: Rena on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:17:40
    Given the color scheme I'm trying to have I could still live with keeping the space there, but isn't it a lot shorter too?

    I just measured it and the height is about 0.5cm at the shortest spot and 0.8cm at the tallest, as opposed to my Filco's approximate 1.2cm height

    The profile on the 700R is indeed shorter than the Filco OEM and SP DCS profiles. I'm traveling so no measurements from me. But the 700R caps I had were almost DSA flat/height.

    Thanks for the info CPT.  I didn't realize the alps disassembly stuff was here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:16:17
    Recently, my Ducky Shine 3 space bar has been squeaking quite a bit. What should I do exactly to fix this problem?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:18:59
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:24:12
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Thu, 27 February 2014, 13:15:55
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:01:47
    Keycaps in the dishwasher. Has anyone tried it? Any reason why I shouldn't clean my caps in there?

    I've done it too.  Put them in a mesh potato bag and it worked great.  I then used denture cleaner to get what was left off.

    Ohh, that's a good idea. I was going to put them all into a colander but was worried the jet stream would pop them out and I'd be greeted by melted plastic on the bottom of my dishwasher.

    I'm going to use a laundry bag to hold the 150 odd BS caps I'm washing
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:28:01
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:16:17
    Recently, my Ducky Shine 3 space bar has been squeaking quite a bit. What should I do exactly to fix this problem?

    Try reseating the board. If not, you can use superlube to put some lube on the stabs of your spacebar. There should be a link in the OP about it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:29:44
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:16:17
    Recently, my Ducky Shine 3 space bar has been squeaking quite a bit. What should I do exactly to fix this problem?
    Try this: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:37:23
    Quote from: Candyflip on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:29:44
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:16:17
    Recently, my Ducky Shine 3 space bar has been squeaking quite a bit. What should I do exactly to fix this problem?
    Try this: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube
    Thanks, will definitely check it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: morpheus on Fri, 28 February 2014, 10:39:50
    Is there a thread that has a list of all the keyboards made by Co-Star and has Co-Star stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 28 February 2014, 11:19:57
    Quote from: morpheus on Fri, 28 February 2014, 10:39:50
    Is there a thread that has a list of all the keyboards made by Co-Star and has Co-Star stabs?

    Unfortunately there isn't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 11:30:53
    Does anyone know of a YouTube video where I can see someone typing on a Filco MJ2 in a Vortex aluminium case? If so, please pass me the link! :)

    Not this one:
    - Need a video of a Filco MJ2 in a Vortex aluminium case with plastic keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 14:28:39
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 11:30:53
    Does anyone know of a YouTube video where I can see someone typing on a Filco MJ2 in a Vortex aluminium case? If so, please pass me the link! :)

    Not this one:
    - Need a video of a Filco MJ2 in a Vortex aluminium case with plastic keys.

    I don't have a video for you, but I can tell you that if you don't have a clicky switch, the case will eat a lot of the sound. I typed on riotonthebay's spritboard with ergo clears, and the only noise it made was when it the switches actuated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 14:38:22
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 28 February 2014, 14:28:39
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 11:30:53
    Does anyone know of a YouTube video where I can see someone typing on a Filco MJ2 in a Vortex aluminium case? If so, please pass me the link! :)

    Not this one:
    - Need a video of a Filco MJ2 in a Vortex aluminium case with plastic keys.

    I don't have a video for you, but I can tell you that if you don't have a clicky switch, the case will eat a lot of the sound. I typed on riotonthebay's spritboard with ergo clears, and the only noise it made was when it the switches actuated.

    Thanks for the information, but I still would appreciate a video, hard to imagine how it will sound. :P Have you typed on an acrylic case before? Wondering if it will sound similar, or if it will be vastly different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:56:44
    Where can I get a filco cable? I need one because my camo is starting to die again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:13:31
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:56:44
    Where can I get a filco cable? I need one because my camo is starting to die again.

    pexon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:14:40
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:56:44
    Where can I get a filco cable? I need one because my camo is starting to die again.

    Here is one place:

    http://pexonpcs.co.uk/Filco-Cable-_p_43.html

    Pexon sells that Filco detachable mod as well, if you're interested. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:16:05
    How do I define 'key chattering'? Is it when I gently tap on my stabilized keys and they make that metallic sound? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I have no idea what it is. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:17:09
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:16:05
    How do I define 'key chattering'? Is it when I gently tap on my stabilized keys and they make that metallic sound? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I have no idea what it is. :P

    its when the wrong keypresses are sent I think or when it double taps a key when u single hit
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:30:40
    Why does my BTC 5100C actuate as if it is mechanical (halfway down the keystroke). I think it may be a conductive rubber dome? do all conductive rubber domes actuate without bottoming out? It is definitely not foam and foil. It is one of the newer/last produced ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:32:20
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:56:44
    Where can I get a filco cable? I need one because my camo is starting to die again.

    Since you're in the US, I highly recommend Mimic Cables (http://www.mimic-cables.com/).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:33:52
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:17:09
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:16:05
    How do I define 'key chattering'? Is it when I gently tap on my stabilized keys and they make that metallic sound? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I have no idea what it is. :P

    its when the wrong keypresses are sent I think or when it double taps a key when u single hit

    Oh, I get it - thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:37:22
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:33:52
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:17:09
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:16:05
    How do I define 'key chattering'? Is it when I gently tap on my stabilized keys and they make that metallic sound? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I have no idea what it is. :P

    its when the wrong keypresses are sent I think or when it double taps a key when u single hit

    Oh, I get it - thanks!

    To clarify/expand, it's what debounce solves.  It's when multiple keystrokes are sent to the computer for a single press of the key.  The "chattering" is on the switch/hardware side, and the "debounce" is on the firmware side to combat chattering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:18:24
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:37:22
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:33:52
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:17:09
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 17:16:05
    How do I define 'key chattering'? Is it when I gently tap on my stabilized keys and they make that metallic sound? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I have no idea what it is. :P

    its when the wrong keypresses are sent I think or when it double taps a key when u single hit

    Oh, I get it - thanks!

    To clarify/expand, it's what debounce solves.  It's when multiple keystrokes are sent to the computer for a single press of the key.  The "chattering" is on the switch/hardware side, and the "debounce" is on the firmware side to combat chattering.

    I see. Thank you. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:38:32
    Less keyboard related, more forum related. How in the world can I upload an avatar without it being horrible quality? There is always compression on the picture really bad, I don't see anyone else with these bad of problems with their avatars.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:41:11
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:38:32
    Less keyboard related, more forum related. How in the world can I upload an avatar without it being horrible quality? There is always compression on the picture really bad, I don't see anyone else with these bad of problems with their avatars.

    I noticed this as well and haven't bothered to fix it yet myself, but I believe you can choose to link to a URL instead of uploading. This shouldn't result in any additional compression, just resizing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:54:34
    Is there any way to disable the windows keys on a Filco MJ2? With some software perhaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 28 February 2014, 19:22:33
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:54:34
    Is there any way to disable the windows keys on a Filco MJ2? With some software perhaps?

    SP sells physical keylockers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:09:23
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:54:34
    Is there any way to disable the windows keys on a Filco MJ2? With some software perhaps?

    For a software solution, you could consider using autohotkey to reassign it to (nothing).  I've never tried that, but it might be worth trying.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:45:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?

    How would it work if you replaced the LED? It would work the same I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:46:53
    Quick list of blue tooth mechs. And go!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:16
    Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:46:53
    Quick list of blue tooth mechs. And go!

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50183.0;topicseen
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:35
    Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:46:53
    Quick list of blue tooth mechs. And go!

    KBTalking Pro v1.1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:45:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?

    How would it work if you replaced the LED? It would work the same I think.

    I think he's referring to the fact that the caps lock LED on the poker 2 is actually a round LED not seated into the switch but rather positioned to the right of the switch.  (so you could potentially keep the stock LED and add one to the switch)  So if you remove that and put one in the switch position, what happens?  I can't answer that as I don't know, but hopefully I've correctly interpreted the question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:50:28
    Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:46:53
    Quick list of blue tooth mechs. And go!

    also:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19104.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:56:26
    Out the box bluetooth no modding 15 lb keyboards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:59:25
    Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:56:26
    Out the box bluetooth no modding 15 lb keyboards

    KBTalking Pro v1.1 superglued to a 12.5lb weight (http://www.amazon.com/Cap-Barbell-Weights-Standard-12-5-Pounds/dp/B0042UBSO6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393657116&sr=8-1&keywords=12lb+weight).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:01:05
    Ewwww 104 keys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:01:17
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:45:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?

    How would it work if you replaced the LED? It would work the same I think.

    I think he's referring to the fact that the caps lock LED on the poker 2 is actually a round LED not seated into the switch but rather positioned to the right of the switch.  (so you could potentially keep the stock LED and add one to the switch)  So if you remove that and put one in the switch position, what happens?  I can't answer that as I don't know, but hopefully I've correctly interpreted the question.

    Spot on. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:09:57
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:01:17
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:45:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?

    How would it work if you replaced the LED? It would work the same I think.

    I think he's referring to the fact that the caps lock LED on the poker 2 is actually a round LED not seated into the switch but rather positioned to the right of the switch.  (so you could potentially keep the stock LED and add one to the switch)  So if you remove that and put one in the switch position, what happens?  I can't answer that as I don't know, but hopefully I've correctly interpreted the question.

    Spot on. :thumb:

    If you're willing to wait a couple days, I could throw an LED on my caps lock switch and see how it behaves (whether it's always on or behaves as the caps lock LED does).  I need to think about what color LED I want there though eventually, so I don't want to rush and do it right now.  :P

    Of course it'd be ideal if anyone else has experience with this.  But if no one replies I'll try it out for you.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:14:30
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:09:57
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:01:17
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:45:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?

    How would it work if you replaced the LED? It would work the same I think.

    I think he's referring to the fact that the caps lock LED on the poker 2 is actually a round LED not seated into the switch but rather positioned to the right of the switch.  (so you could potentially keep the stock LED and add one to the switch)  So if you remove that and put one in the switch position, what happens?  I can't answer that as I don't know, but hopefully I've correctly interpreted the question.

    Spot on. :thumb:

    If you're willing to wait a couple days, I could throw an LED on my caps lock switch and see how it behaves (whether it's always on or behaves as the caps lock LED does).  I need to think about what color LED I want there though eventually, so I don't want to rush and do it right now.  :P

    Of course it'd be ideal if anyone else has experience with this.  But if no one replies I'll try it out for you.  :)

    Thanks a lot. I appreciate that :)

    I would assume it would not function as a caps lock LED but I may be mistaken.

    Maybe someone will chime in soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:19:27
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:14:30
    Thanks a lot. I appreciate that :)

    I would assume it would not function as a caps lock LED but I may be mistaken.

    Maybe someone will chime in soon.

    After a brief inspection of the traces, it seems like it might actually behave like all the other add-on LEDs on the board (always on / controlled by fn+v).  But that's just a guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:22:53
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:19:27
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:14:30
    Thanks a lot. I appreciate that :)

    I would assume it would not function as a caps lock LED but I may be mistaken.

    Maybe someone will chime in soon.

    After a brief inspection of the traces, it seems like it might actually behave like all the other add-on LEDs on the board (always on / controlled by fn+v).  But that's just a guess.

    Well that really sucks. Is there a possibility of somehow wiring that led to the original caps lock?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:25:43
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:22:53
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:19:27
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:14:30
    Thanks a lot. I appreciate that :)

    I would assume it would not function as a caps lock LED but I may be mistaken.

    Maybe someone will chime in soon.

    After a brief inspection of the traces, it seems like it might actually behave like all the other add-on LEDs on the board (always on / controlled by fn+v).  But that's just a guess.

    Well that really sucks. Is there a possibility of somehow wiring that led to the original caps lock?

    If I'm right with that guess, then no, not without cutting traces and re-routing which would not be easy at all.  Best bet would probably be to swap out the stock caps lock LED and put the new one in its place, rather than in the switch position.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:27:23
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:25:43
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:22:53
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:19:27
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:14:30
    Thanks a lot. I appreciate that :)

    I would assume it would not function as a caps lock LED but I may be mistaken.

    Maybe someone will chime in soon.

    After a brief inspection of the traces, it seems like it might actually behave like all the other add-on LEDs on the board (always on / controlled by fn+v).  But that's just a guess.

    Well that really sucks. Is there a possibility of somehow wiring that led to the original caps lock?

    If I'm right with that guess, then no, not without cutting traces and re-routing which would not be easy at all.  Best bet would probably be to swap out the stock caps lock LED and put the new one in its place, rather than in the switch position.

    Damn. I actually have to remove it completely because of the imsto plate I ordered not having the cutout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 01 March 2014, 03:27:36
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:09:23
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:54:34
    Is there any way to disable the windows keys on a Filco MJ2? With some software perhaps?

    For a software solution, you could consider using autohotkey to reassign it to (nothing).  I've never tried that, but it might be worth trying.

    Kk, will check it out.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 01 March 2014, 03:49:54
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:09:23
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:54:34
    Is there any way to disable the windows keys on a Filco MJ2? With some software perhaps?

    For a software solution, you could consider using autohotkey to reassign it to (nothing).  I've never tried that, but it might be worth trying.

    AutoHotKey worked just fine! Thank you so much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 03:52:50
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 01 March 2014, 03:49:54
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:09:23
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 28 February 2014, 18:54:34
    Is there any way to disable the windows keys on a Filco MJ2? With some software perhaps?

    For a software solution, you could consider using autohotkey to reassign it to (nothing).  I've never tried that, but it might be worth trying.

    AutoHotKey worked just fine! Thank you so much.

    Awesome!  I'm glad it worked out well for you.  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 10:22:03
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:01:17
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:45:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?

    How would it work if you replaced the LED? It would work the same I think.

    I think he's referring to the fact that the caps lock LED on the poker 2 is actually a round LED not seated into the switch but rather positioned to the right of the switch.  (so you could potentially keep the stock LED and add one to the switch)  So if you remove that and put one in the switch position, what happens?  I can't answer that as I don't know, but hopefully I've correctly interpreted the question.

    Spot on. :thumb:

    Posted this last night without a definitive answer. Does anyone know? :)
    Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 01 March 2014, 10:35:20
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 10:22:03
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:01:17
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:45:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?

    How would it work if you replaced the LED? It would work the same I think.

    I think he's referring to the fact that the caps lock LED on the poker 2 is actually a round LED not seated into the switch but rather positioned to the right of the switch.  (so you could potentially keep the stock LED and add one to the switch)  So if you remove that and put one in the switch position, what happens?  I can't answer that as I don't know, but hopefully I've correctly interpreted the question.

    Spot on. :thumb:

    Posted this last night without a definitive answer. Does anyone know? :)
    Thank you.

    I'm almost 100% positive I've replaced the Caps Lock LED on a Pure with an in-switch LED and it worked just as you would expect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 11:22:41
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 10:22:03
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:01:17
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:45:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?

    How would it work if you replaced the LED? It would work the same I think.

    I think he's referring to the fact that the caps lock LED on the poker 2 is actually a round LED not seated into the switch but rather positioned to the right of the switch.  (so you could potentially keep the stock LED and add one to the switch)  So if you remove that and put one in the switch position, what happens?  I can't answer that as I don't know, but hopefully I've correctly interpreted the question.

    Spot on. :thumb:

    Posted this last night without a definitive answer. Does anyone know? :)
    Thank you.

    Please don't bump your questions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 11:59:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 11:22:41
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 10:22:03
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 01:01:17
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:48:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:45:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 23:53:38
    How would the caps lock LED work on a pure / poker 2 if you were to desolder the original LED and add one to the switch. Would it always stay on?

    How would it work if you replaced the LED? It would work the same I think.

    I think he's referring to the fact that the caps lock LED on the poker 2 is actually a round LED not seated into the switch but rather positioned to the right of the switch.  (so you could potentially keep the stock LED and add one to the switch)  So if you remove that and put one in the switch position, what happens?  I can't answer that as I don't know, but hopefully I've correctly interpreted the question.

    Spot on. :thumb:

    Posted this last night without a definitive answer. Does anyone know? :)
    Thank you.

    Please don't bump your questions.

    Sorry!

    Could someone quickly tell me how to turn on and adjust LEDs on a pure. I can't find it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 01 March 2014, 12:01:55

    nvm ^^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Emmiya on Sat, 01 March 2014, 12:18:12
    On my pure it's:
    Fn + B - activate (setting 1)
    Fn + V - increase brightness
    Fn + N - decrease brightness

    Fn + B - again (setting 2) - Locked at that brightness

    Fn + B - third time (disable)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 01 March 2014, 12:23:45
    Quote from: Emmiya on Sat, 01 March 2014, 12:18:12
    On my pure it's:
    Fn + B - activate (setting 1)
    Fn + V - increase brightness
    Fn + N - decrease brightness

    Fn + B - again (setting 2) - Locked at that brightness

    Fn + B - third time (disable)

    Doesn't the second Fn+B put it into breathing mode? I'm pretty sure that's what mine does.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Emmiya on Sat, 01 March 2014, 12:26:22
    Ah, that's exactly what it does.

    My bad, I never use the back-lighting, so I just figured it was a preset-high setting.

    Either way, here's the online manual : http://view.samurajdata.se/psview.php?id=8ae497aa&page=1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 01 March 2014, 21:37:45
    If I have a non-backlit pure that I then add LEDs to, will I be able to control them or will they have to be on all the time?

    Similar question about the poker II.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 01 March 2014, 21:45:46
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 01 March 2014, 21:37:45
    If I have a non-backlit pure that I then add LEDs to, will I be able to control them or will they have to be on all the time?

    Similar question about the poker II.

    Thanks!

    It will work the same as a backlit Pure or Poker II. They ship with the same hardware and firmware, sans LEDs only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Slowdiving on Sat, 01 March 2014, 23:29:16
    Can I use the Pexon filco mod on my RF87U?  Or am I better getting a USB mini extender, cutting/soldering it to a mobo header and attaching that to my PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 01 March 2014, 23:57:40
    Which color way for caps was/is the Nathan set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 March 2014, 23:59:06
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 01 March 2014, 23:57:40
    Which color way for caps was/is the Nathan set?

    White/Trans Orange Alphas, Orange/White mods.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 02 March 2014, 00:04:12
    That's what I thought.  I got a cap from that set and I was going to put it non the wife's Filco.  Just wanted to make sure I had the right name for the set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 02 March 2014, 03:42:27
    I often see on keycap7bitGB in other name ctrl,alt.etc is meta,super,hyper.etc that's name from old computer?
    i want know the others name so far i just find meta=alt,hyper=?,super=?.etc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 02 March 2014, 09:43:58
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 02 March 2014, 03:42:27
    I often see on keycap7bitGB in other name ctrl,alt.etc is meta,super,hyper.etc that's name from old computer?
    i want know the others name so far i just find meta=alt,hyper=?,super=?.etc
    "Super"  is the name for the windows key (on PC) or command key (on mac). "meta" and "hyper" and the rest were taken from the Symbolics keyboard, or space cadet keyboard. 7bit's round4 was partially based on those designs.

    Since many keyboards are programmable: you can assign them to whatever.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 02 March 2014, 18:11:29
    Whats the actuation force of a Model F and a Model M? F seems lighter than M but I want to know the specifics
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 March 2014, 18:46:22
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 02 March 2014, 18:11:29
    Whats the actuation force of a Model F and a Model M? F seems lighter than M but I want to know the specifics

    They're both about 70-75.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 02 March 2014, 22:12:28
    What are the primary differences between a HID Liberation Device vs a Pegasus Hoof?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 02 March 2014, 22:19:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 02 March 2014, 22:12:28
    What are the primary differences between a HID Liberation Device vs a Pegasus Hoof?

    Thanks.

    HID Liberation Device uses ATMega 32u4 controller, and Pegasus' Hoof uses 32u2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alosec on Sun, 02 March 2014, 23:35:47
    does the white realforce collect dust and dirt as easily as other white boards? really hate this but love white keys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 03 March 2014, 08:07:40
    Quote from: alosec on Sun, 02 March 2014, 23:35:47
    does the white realforce collect dust and dirt as easily as other white boards? really hate this but love white keys
    I think that white/beige boards tend to catch less dust or at least less visible dust, but not sure about the RF the material of which is made of matters too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 03 March 2014, 15:31:26
    Quote from: alosec on Sun, 02 March 2014, 23:35:47
    does the white realforce collect dust and dirt as easily as other white boards? really hate this but love white keys

    It's the same amount, but it's more obvious because the keyboard is white.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 March 2014, 15:54:16
    Quote from: alosec on Sun, 02 March 2014, 23:35:47
    does the white realforce collect dust and dirt as easily as other white boards? really hate this but love white keys

    Probably collects the dark dust, just as darker keyboards collect the light dust.  Consider what the most prevalent colour dust you have in your environment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 03 March 2014, 18:11:57
    Is the white HHKB pro2 a true white, or is more of a beige like the white Filco?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 03 March 2014, 18:19:27
    Nevermind...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 04 March 2014, 01:17:11
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 03 March 2014, 18:11:57
    Is the white HHKB pro2 a true white, or is more of a beige like the white Filco?

    It definitely looks like a true white to me, but my friends often tell me it looks like it "came from the 80's"...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 03:06:39
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 03 March 2014, 18:11:57
    Is the white HHKB pro2 a true white, or is more of a beige like the white Filco?

    Nope.

    These pictures are a comparison (with and without flash) between my HHKB Pro 2 and KeyCool 87 (which is whiter than white).

    [attachimg=1]

    [attachimg=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 04 March 2014, 03:12:31
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 03:06:39
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 03 March 2014, 18:11:57
    Is the white HHKB pro2 a true white, or is more of a beige like the white Filco?

    Nope.

    These pictures are a comparison (with and without flash) between my HHKB Pro 2 and KeyCool 87 (which is whiter than white).

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    Okay so it's a off-white. Very cool. That's what I wanted to know.  Thanks for the pics :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 04 March 2014, 03:21:41
    Quote from: Candyflip on Mon, 03 March 2014, 08:07:40
    Quote from: alosec on Sun, 02 March 2014, 23:35:47
    does the white realforce collect dust and dirt as easily as other white boards? really hate this but love white keys
    I think that white/beige boards tend to catch less dust or at least less visible dust, but not sure about the RF the material of which is made of matters too.

    I totally agree. My white/beige Filco shows less dust then my black boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 03:25:12
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 04 March 2014, 03:21:41
    Quote from: Candyflip on Mon, 03 March 2014, 08:07:40
    Quote from: alosec on Sun, 02 March 2014, 23:35:47
    does the white realforce collect dust and dirt as easily as other white boards? really hate this but love white keys
    I think that white/beige boards tend to catch less dust or at least less visible dust, but not sure about the RF the material of which is made of matters too.

    I totally agree. My white/beige Filco shows less dust then my black boards.

    Assuming that you're asking why (so we don't go too far off topic), that would probably be because you live in an area where the dust is predominantly lighter in colour.

    If you live somewhere that the dust is darker, you would find a dark-coloured keyboard would show up more dust.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:04:04
    Ok, I've got a couple of questions;

    1. Is there any other metal cases besides the Vortex ones that will fit a Filco MJ2?
    2. Is it possible to get/find a winkeyless ISO TKL custom or winkeyless ANSI+ISO TKL custom? (Ansi left shift, ISO enter)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:06:40
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:04:04
    1. Is there any other metal cases besides the Vortex ones that will fit a Filco MJ2?
    2. Is it possible to get/find a winkeyless ISO TKL custom or winkeyless ANSI+ISO TKL custom? (Ansi left shift, ISO enter)

    1. This one comes to my mind: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34606.0
    2. Not sure but I have never seen one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:13:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:06:40
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:04:04
    1. Is there any other metal cases besides the Vortex ones that will fit a Filco MJ2?
    2. Is it possible to get/find a winkeyless ISO TKL custom or winkeyless ANSI+ISO TKL custom? (Ansi left shift, ISO enter)

    1. This one comes to my mind: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34606.0
    2. Not sure but I have never seen one.

    Those MKC Alu cases will never be made again, to my knowledge. Possibly a Skeldon TKL or TEK-80 would fit, but AFAIK those will never be made either, and if they were, they would be VERY expensive. What type of case were you looking for, epzy, and what about the Vortex case do you not like?

    You can do WKL ISO with Phantom, and also have the ANSI left shift if you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:18:47
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:13:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:06:40
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:04:04
    1. Is there any other metal cases besides the Vortex ones that will fit a Filco MJ2?
    2. Is it possible to get/find a winkeyless ISO TKL custom or winkeyless ANSI+ISO TKL custom? (Ansi left shift, ISO enter)

    1. This one comes to my mind: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34606.0
    2. Not sure but I have never seen one.

    Those MKC Alu cases will never be made again, to my knowledge. Possibly a Skeldon TKL or TEK-80 would fit, but AFAIK those will never be made either, and if they were, they would be VERY expensive. What type of case were you looking for, ezpz, and what about the Vortex case do you not like?

    You can do WKL ISO with Phantom, and also have the ANSI left shift if you want.

    So if I find a full Phantom kit, I can get the WKL, ANSI+ISO layout I want? Which case can I get for such a board?

    I'm not looking for a specific case, but I'd like a good looking and high quality one, for sub $300. I like the Vortex case personally, but I've heard both negative and positive things about it. I can get one for $160 shipped, but I'm not sure if I want to commit. If I commit it means I wont get my ideal layout which I already have mentioned.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:26:18
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:18:47
    So if I find a full Phantom kit, I can get the WKL, ANSI+ISO layout I want? Which case can I get for such a board?

    I'm not looking for a specific case, but I'd like a good looking and high quality one, for sub $300. I like the Vortex case personally, but I've heard both negative and positive things about it. I can get one for $160 shipped, but I'm not sure if I want to commit. If I commit it means I wont get my ideal layout which I already have mentioned.

    Yes, the Phantom PCB supports what you want, but you will have to get a custom plate made for that layout. The Phantom PCB will fit in Filco, QFR, PLU-87 cases, as well as that Vortex case. With the Vortex case, you'll have to use some kind of supports under the PCB, since it's designed to use the edge bends in the Filco plate to support the internals. The Vortex is probably the only alu case you're going to find aftermarket. Or you could go with a layered, laser cut metal "sandwich" style case, like the ones GON makes, using your custom layout. I can probably help you with that type of design, if you had somewhere to get the plates laser cut or machined.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:32:25
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:26:18
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:18:47
    So if I find a full Phantom kit, I can get the WKL, ANSI+ISO layout I want? Which case can I get for such a board?

    I'm not looking for a specific case, but I'd like a good looking and high quality one, for sub $300. I like the Vortex case personally, but I've heard both negative and positive things about it. I can get one for $160 shipped, but I'm not sure if I want to commit. If I commit it means I wont get my ideal layout which I already have mentioned.

    Yes, the Phantom PCB supports what you want, but you will have to get a custom plate made for that layout. The Phantom PCB will fit in Filco, QFR, PLU-87 cases, as well as that Vortex case. With the Vortex case, you'll have to use some kind of supports under the PCB, since it's designed to use the edge bends in the Filco plate to support the internals. The Vortex is probably the only alu case you're going to find aftermarket. Or you could go with a layered, laser cut metal "sandwich" style case, like the ones GON makes, using your custom layout. I can probably help you with that type of design, if you had somewhere to get the plates laser cut or machined.

    Thanks so much for the information & offering to help me with the design, jdcarpe! I will take some time and figure out what I want to do. I'm not in a hurry as I would need some more money if I would go the Phantom route. I think I will pick up one Vortex case regardless. :)

    Oh, and I actually think GON's 'sandwich' cases look pretty neat. Definitely something I could see myself going for.

    http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/89-thickbox_default/gon-ns-87-w-tuningassembly.jpg

    GON NS 87, those look great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 15:53:36
    http://imgur.com/a/x8tF9

    Is there something that can be added to this case + Poker 2 to make it heavier, if so what would that be? I'm asking for someone else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:08:16
    Does anyone know what resistor I need to get for face-W PCB? I know I need resistor with part number 0805 and 820 OHM for white LED but there are tons of different resistors on digikey that match.  :'(

    EDIT: Never mind. A friend helped me out. Any resistor should work, as long as it's 0805 and the resistance is right. Other spec does not matter. (At least that is what I was told.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:38:23
    Your thread title is bad, and you should feel bad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:41:10
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 15:53:36
    http://imgur.com/a/x8tF9

    Is there something that can be added to this case + Poker 2 to make it heavier, if so what would that be? I'm asking for someone else.

    Replace the two layers in the middle that are just a ring around the edge with laser cut stainless.  That or if you really want some heft get some lead wheel weights from a tire shop, hammer them out flat on concrete with a good hammer and tape/glue them in.  Lead is very soft and should hammer out easily.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 04 March 2014, 22:00:31
    Does anyone have an updated KMAC2 programmer? The one I downloaded from http://www.listokei.com/keymapping/ doesn't have the layout for the KMAC 2. I tried using that, but the right ALT won't reprogram. I'm using this program as I want to program my LEDs.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:31:40
    how to get rid PBT printed i've tried acetone fail no sandpaper.other way?
     :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:36:25
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:31:40
    how to get rid PBT printed i've tried acetone fail no sandpaper.other way?
     :)

    If the keys are dye sublimation you will have to physically remove some plastic to do it.  Reason is, acetone does not affect PBT, and with the dye sublimation process the dye actually sets into the plastic so it is actually more than just a surface treatment.  Best bet would just be to deal with the legends until you can buy some blanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:41:32
    Quote from: Dreamre on Tue, 04 March 2014, 22:00:31
    Does anyone have an updated KMAC2 programmer? The one I downloaded from http://www.listokei.com/keymapping/ doesn't have the layout for the KMAC 2. I tried using that, but the right ALT won't reprogram. I'm using this program as I want to program my LEDs.

    Thanks!

    Try this maybe:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:46:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:36:25
    If the keys are dye sublimation you will have to physically remove some plastic to do it.  Reason is, acetone does not affect PBT, and with the dye sublimation process the dye actually sets into the plastic so it is actually more than just a surface treatment.  Best bet would just be to deal with the legends until you can buy some blanks.
    not dye printed,just laser engraving :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:49:20
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:46:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:36:25
    If the keys are dye sublimation you will have to physically remove some plastic to do it.  Reason is, acetone does not affect PBT, and with the dye sublimation process the dye actually sets into the plastic so it is actually more than just a surface treatment.  Best bet would just be to deal with the legends until you can buy some blanks.
    not dye printed,just laser engraving :)

    laser? I'd say sandpaper is only choice. Maybe high water pressure?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 05 March 2014, 00:05:15
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:49:20
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:46:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:36:25
    If the keys are dye sublimation you will have to physically remove some plastic to do it.  Reason is, acetone does not affect PBT, and with the dye sublimation process the dye actually sets into the plastic so it is actually more than just a surface treatment.  Best bet would just be to deal with the legends until you can buy some blanks.
    not dye printed,just laser engraving :)
    laser? I'd say sandpaper is only choice. Maybe high water pressure?
    Thanks
    one way now,only sandpaper :confused: i hope not damage the surface
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 05 March 2014, 02:18:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:41:10
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 15:53:36
    http://imgur.com/a/x8tF9

    Is there something that can be added to this case + Poker 2 to make it heavier, if so what would that be? I'm asking for someone else.

    Replace the two layers in the middle that are just a ring around the edge with laser cut stainless.  That or if you really want some heft get some lead wheel weights from a tire shop, hammer them out flat on concrete with a good hammer and tape/glue them in.  Lead is very soft and should hammer out easily.

    Hmm, thanks! I'll see if he's willing to do any of those things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 05 March 2014, 03:37:26
    Are there any shared resources to help with layout and color mock ups? I know about the online layout designer, which is excellent.

    I was thinking something like an .ai file people could play with to show different kits.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: delobe on Wed, 05 March 2014, 12:39:18
    I just got my first mechanical keyboard with brown mx.

    What would be the cheapest way to try out all (most) of the other switches on offer? Returns on amazon, trading, swapping keys...thanks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 05 March 2014, 12:41:50
    Quote from: delobe on Wed, 05 March 2014, 12:39:18
    What would be the cheapest way to try out all (most) of the other switches on offer? Returns on amazon, trading, swapping keys...thanks?

    A switch tester, QWERkeys and CM Storm offer one for example. The one from CM Storm is pretty good as it comes with a case and the switches are plate mounted, so it comes fairly close to how they would feel on an actual keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:20:38
    Quote from: delobe on Wed, 05 March 2014, 12:39:18
    I just got my first mechanical keyboard with brown mx.

    What would be the cheapest way to try out all (most) of the other switches on offer? Returns on amazon, trading, swapping keys...thanks?

    Yeah please don't do the return deal with amazon.  Do a bit of research and looking into your typing habits and how you feel about the browns and go from there.  Return policys are there for dead or defective products, not buyers remorse, change of heart, or intentional test drives.  All this does is drive up prices for everything else they sell.  If you buy a board and don't like it, you should be able to resell it here for a smaller loss than what return shipping and restocking fees would cost you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kringler on Thu, 06 March 2014, 00:45:35
    Thought I might pop a few simple questions down here instead of opening a new topic. Hope that works for everyone.  ;D
    I'm in the market for buying my first mechanical keyboard, and I have these few small questions:

    1) I had an opportunity to test out two mechanical keyboards at a local Best Buy—a Black Widow Ultimate, which I believe has untouched mx blues, and a G710+, which I believe has mx browns with giant o-rings. My question is this: should I really depend on the G710+ to give me a good impression of what the mx browns are? Before trying any of them I thought browns would be my favorite, but they felt mushy to me. They kind of felt like slightly 'dirty' feeling rubber domes; I didn't like that at all.

    2) I really liked the blues in the Widow, and I really think that those are the switches that I want to go for. But I'm concerned that I haven't tried out any switches other than the brown and blues, so do any of you believe that I should wait until I could try out some linear ones, or even other switches before I make the decision?

    Thanks everyone! If this is not a great place to slap this, I understand if it needs to be moved.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 06 March 2014, 01:06:37
    Check out the switch tester from Cooler Master.  It has 6 different switches in it mounted in a case (though I don't remember if they are plate or pcb mounted).  The thing to remember with browns is that the tactile bump is the smallest of all the MX switches.  A lot of times to do feel "dirty", especially when brand new.  I personally feel that browns don't show their true colors until they are broke in.  This will smooth out the bump a touch but to me they don't feel dirty anymore after a bit of use.  Of course switches are all personal preference.  I almost always recommend browns as a first time switch.

    If you have browns you can tell a lot of stuff.  If you want less tactility, go with a linear.  If you want more tactility but not the noise then clears or ergo clears (this is a modded switch).  The one thing is it is a bit more difficult to get a lighter switch than browns, blues, or reds (all use the same spring).  This will require buying aftermarket springs and taking apart all the switches and putting them in.  If the keyboard is plate mounted then it will require desoldering each and every switch.

    It really isn't that difficult to do with single sided PCBs.  Dual sided PCBs are more difficult to desolder though. 

    Overall, browns are almost always a safe bet for a first switch.  If you really want to be sure get a switch tester.  There are a few places that sell them.  Also, be warned that the same switches will feel different in different keyboards.  Even if you take the exact same switches out of one keyboard and put them in another, they can feel different.  Also, keycaps have a HUGE impact on how switches feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kringler on Thu, 06 March 2014, 01:35:21
    Thanks for the quick reply Melvang. I'll definitely look into getting that switch kit; last time I checked on that, though, it was out of stock.

    Another quick question concerning key caps: I believe it's PBS that the higher quality, and thicker key caps are made out of, is this highly preferable over other materials? It seems that most backlit keyboards have lower quality caps. Is the difference quickly and easily noticed over other materials?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Thu, 06 March 2014, 05:22:04
    How does one create mock-ups like these (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54334.msg1220376#msg1220376) ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 06 March 2014, 10:38:24
    Quote from: Kringler on Thu, 06 March 2014, 01:35:21
    Thanks for the quick reply Melvang. I'll definitely look into getting that switch kit; last time I checked on that, though, it was out of stock.

    Another quick question concerning key caps: I believe it's PBS that the higher quality, and thicker key caps are made out of, is this highly preferable over other materials? It seems that most backlit keyboards have lower quality caps. Is the difference quickly and easily noticed over other materials?

    Thanks!

    PBT isn't really any higher quality than ABS.  Just a different material for making caps out of.  It does greatly affect the feel and the sound while typing though.  ABS generally seems be be more of a higher pitched tick while PBT is generally a lower pitched thock.  And yes most backlight compatible caps are of lower quality in that they are usually a frosted type opaque plastic that is either painted or dye sublimated for the legend.  Also ABS will develop a shine due to the texture wearing away considerably faster than PBT caps. 

    Also, question of my own.

    1.  Anyone know the ID and OD for the pads on the switch pins for the Phantom?
    2.  Could also use some dimensions for pads including locations for SMD diodes for a PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 06 March 2014, 10:54:43
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 06 March 2014, 10:38:24
    Quote from: Kringler on Thu, 06 March 2014, 01:35:21
    Thanks for the quick reply Melvang. I'll definitely look into getting that switch kit; last time I checked on that, though, it was out of stock.

    Another quick question concerning key caps: I believe it's PBS that the higher quality, and thicker key caps are made out of, is this highly preferable over other materials? It seems that most backlit keyboards have lower quality caps. Is the difference quickly and easily noticed over other materials?

    Thanks!

    PBT isn't really any higher quality than ABS.  Just a different material for making caps out of.  It does greatly affect the feel and the sound while typing though.  ABS generally seems be be more of a higher pitched tick while PBT is generally a lower pitched thock.  And yes most backlight compatible caps are of lower quality in that they are usually a frosted type opaque plastic that is either painted or dye sublimated for the legend.  Also ABS will develop a shine due to the texture wearing away considerably faster than PBT caps. 

    My thick GMK ABS keycaps make more of a thock than a click as well. I believe the sound corresponds better with thickness than with material (though material could be a part of it).

    I like high quality ABS (a.k.a. GMK or OG Cherry) just as much as the thick PBT that I've tried. It will shine after a time, but it will take much longer than would the thin, cheapo ABS that comes stock on some keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:30:05
    i wonder how to remap arrows from wasd to Fn, Pn, CTRL?
    Tilde/Esc can i use them independently, switching from one to the other? 
    also heard about firmware? does i need to update (NKRO on USB)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:07:00
    Where do you guys get your angled tweezers for stickering and such?

    Thank you in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:15:00
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:07:00
    Where do you guys get your angled tweezers for stickering and such?

    Thank you in advance!

    Amazon, eBay, Frys, Mouser, Digikey, Newark, so on and so forth. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:21:35
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:15:00
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:07:00
    Where do you guys get your angled tweezers for stickering and such?

    Thank you in advance!

    Amazon, eBay, Frys, Mouser, Digikey, Newark, so on and so forth.

    Any particular one you like :D?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:25:16
    Whichever one is decently made and cheapest.  Personally, I love Mouser and Amazon.  Amazon because if it's crap, it's no big deal to return, and Mouser because they're cheap and customer service is amazing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:26:22
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:25:16
    Whichever one is decently made and cheapest.  Personally, I love Mouser and Amazon.  Amazon because if it's crap, it's no big deal to return, and Mouser because they're cheap and customer service is amazing.

    Ah, I see. Thanks for providing your insight :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:29:37
    Does anyone here know someone who can convert my old NMB Black Space Invader keyboard cable from a coiled, off-white AT plug to a braided, colored USB plug?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 08 March 2014, 00:33:29
    On SP Keycap Vertical numpad (+),include row?    on WASD/OEM is R3

    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 08 March 2014, 10:27:26
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Fri, 07 March 2014, 22:29:37
    Does anyone here know someone who can convert my old NMB Black Space Invader keyboard cable from a coiled, off-white AT plug to a braided, colored USB plug?

    yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: morpheus on Sat, 08 March 2014, 10:27:36
    Quick Verification Needed:

    I just bought this TG3 board and need confirmation that it's an MX Black.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USB-TG3-Electronics-Keyboard-w-Touchpad-Mouse-Buttons-KBA-nBLTA-QTY-AVAIL/121266006222?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222006%26algo%3DSIC.FITP%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20477%26meid%3D5341864847211863532%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D9141%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121148985318

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 08 March 2014, 10:53:47
    Yes it had blacks and is not backlit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:34:48
    Which one of these switches feels heavier: Completely new RF 55g vs completely new stock MX Clears? Which one is easiest to bottom out with?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:42:30
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:34:48
    Which one of these switches feels heavier: Completely new RF 55g vs completely new stock MX Clears? Which one is easiest to bottom out with?

    Stock clear is 80g. Topre is basically linear, so the topre will bottom out easier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gh_pp on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:47:26
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:34:48
    Which one of these switches feels heavier: Completely new RF 55g vs completely new stock MX Clears? Which one is easiest to bottom out with?

    IMO stock clear is easier to actuate but harder to bottom out compared to 55g topre.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:47:59
    What models are there with QWERTY and Hindi legends? Just keycaps is fine too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 08 March 2014, 14:07:40
    Quote from: JaccoW on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:47:59
    What models are there with QWERTY and Hindi legends? Just keycaps is fine too.
    I've never seen a board in Hindi legends. At least not mechanical.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 08 March 2014, 14:41:45
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 08 March 2014, 14:07:40
    Quote from: JaccoW on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:47:59
    What models are there with QWERTY and Hindi legends? Just keycaps is fine too.
    I've never seen a board in Hindi legends. At least not mechanical.
    It's for my girlfriend she is studying Hindi and would like one.
    Even a simple rubber dome seems to be rare too.

    EDIT: What do you know, a Mech keyboard with Hindi legends; TVS-E BHARAT GOLD BILINGUAL (http://www.tvs-e.in/product.php?brand_id=keyboards). Guess that settles that.
    Let's see if we can get out hands on that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 08 March 2014, 15:37:53
    Which Korean spring is closest to stock mx reds in terms of force? 55g?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 08 March 2014, 15:55:15
    62g: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 08 March 2014, 16:03:05
    Ty. :) Yeah, 62g korean springs seems to be pretty close to stock reds. And damn, 62g ergo clears must be suuuuper light compared to stock clears then. :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 08 March 2014, 19:41:19
    Can pcb mounted cherry stabilizers from gon's website be mounted on an ansi125 universal tkl plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 08 March 2014, 20:33:48
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 08 March 2014, 19:41:19
    Can pcb mounted cherry stabilizers from gon's website be mounted on an ansi125 universal tkl plate?

    No.  But it woudn't take much to open the holes up enough for them to work.  At least to my knowledge
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 08 March 2014, 20:37:30
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 08 March 2014, 20:33:48
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 08 March 2014, 19:41:19
    Can pcb mounted cherry stabilizers from gon's website be mounted on an ansi125 universal tkl plate?

    No.  But it woudn't take much to open the holes up enough for them to work.  At least to my knowledge
    Thanks Melvang!  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tribade on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:04:33
    I'm trying to put my RF into a digil0g case, but goddamnit I can't get the screw off the ground on the usb cable.  This is the one here: (http://i.imgur.com/ieJ86.jpg)(that's the bottom of the board, the top is a phillips head screw, about 3mm I believe.

    Do they put some kind of lock tight on it now?  Any tips or hints?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:10:14
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 08 March 2014, 19:41:19
    Can pcb mounted cherry stabilizers from gon's website be mounted on an ansi125 universal tkl plate?

    By definition, PCB mount stabilizers mount only to a PCB, not to a plate. The uTKL plate will work just fine with PCB mounted stabilizers, which are mounted to a PCB which supports them. In order to mount stabilizers to the actual plate, you want either Cherry PLATE mount stabilizers, or Costar stabilizers (either will work with that plate). You can find Cherry plate mount stabilizers on Mouser, Digi-Key, Online Components, etc. Part numbers are in the OP of this thread. You can get Costar stabilizers from WASDkeyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:44:14
    How many custom 60% PCBs allow 1.5x Ctrl Alt, 1x Win key, and 7x spacebar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:49:20
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:44:14
    How many custom 60% PCBs allow 1.5x Ctrl Alt, 1x Win key, and 7x spacebar?

    I think four.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:56:51
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:44:14
    How many custom 60% PCBs allow 1.5x Ctrl Alt, 1x Win key, and 7x spacebar?

    GH60 and Sprit, I believe are the only ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 09 March 2014, 15:01:06
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:56:51
    GH60 and Sprit, I believe are the only ones.

    356mini and I think Duck made another one? And I'm not sure about the Kmac Happy, but I think it can have that layout too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 March 2014, 15:02:27
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 09 March 2014, 15:01:06
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:56:51
    GH60 and Sprit, I believe are the only ones.

    356mini and I think Duck made another one? And I'm not sure about the Kmac Happy, but I think it can have that layout too.

    Ah, I forgot about 356 mini and KMAC Happy. Duck was the 38GT, right? Which doesn't do that, unless there is another PCB for v2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 09 March 2014, 15:07:24
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 March 2014, 15:02:27
    Ah, I forgot about 356 mini and KMAC Happy. Duck was the 38GT, right? Which doesn't do that, unless there is another PCB for v2.

    Duck Mini V2:
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46060.0;attach=29023;image)

    I think it uses a special PCB, not the 38GT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 09 March 2014, 15:09:27
    Thanks for the help!

    I'll probably go with the GH60 for my 60% pcb mounted clears needs, whenever I can get my hands on one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:05:55
    My friend lubed his QFR (MX red) with the thin mixture from Originative. It seems that one of his keys sometimes double presses (press once and it would press it twice). Is there any remedy to fixing this? Can cleaning inside the switch with rubbing alcohol fix this issue? Or is there a way to reposition the metal stem to fix the actuation point? He is too cheap to get replacement switches.

    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:26:58
    Yes cleaning should help. Double check that the contact leafs are clean and relube it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:28:52
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:05:55
    My friend lubed his QFR (MX red) with the thin mixture from Originative. It seems that one of his keys sometimes double presses (press once and it would press it twice). Is there any remedy to fixing this? Can cleaning inside the switch with rubbing alcohol fix this issue? Or is there a way to reposition the metal stem to fix the actuation point? He is too cheap to get replacement switches.

    Thanks in advance!
    Be a real friend hook him with some replacement switches... Other than that with alcohol I think he can remove the lube but not sure if they are already ruined.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:36:01
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:26:58
    Yes cleaning should help. Double check that the contact leafs are clean and relube it.

    I will let him know! Thanks BlueBar!

    Quote from: Candyflip on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:28:52
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:05:55
    My friend lubed his QFR (MX red) with the thin mixture from Originative. It seems that one of his keys sometimes double presses (press once and it would press it twice). Is there any remedy to fixing this? Can cleaning inside the switch with rubbing alcohol fix this issue? Or is there a way to reposition the metal stem to fix the actuation point? He is too cheap to get replacement switches.

    Thanks in advance!
    Be a real friend hook him with some replacement switches... Other than that with alcohol I think he can remove the lube but not sure if they are already ruined.

    He's away for University and won't be back for another month and so  :p. How do switches become ruined with too much lube :eek:?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:37:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:36:01
    He's away for University and won't be back for another month and so  :p. How do switches become ruined with too much lube :eek:?

    I think he used too much or lubed on the wrong spots.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:39:19
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:36:01
    Quote from: Candyflip on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:28:52
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:05:55
    My friend lubed his QFR (MX red) with the thin mixture from Originative. It seems that one of his keys sometimes double presses (press once and it would press it twice). Is there any remedy to fixing this? Can cleaning inside the switch with rubbing alcohol fix this issue? Or is there a way to reposition the metal stem to fix the actuation point? He is too cheap to get replacement switches.

    Thanks in advance!
    Be a real friend hook him with some replacement switches... Other than that with alcohol I think he can remove the lube but not sure if they are already ruined.

    He's away for University and won't be back for another month and so  :p. How do switches become ruined with too much lube :eek:?

    Are there any PCB manufacturers that are on par with OshPark as far as quality vs cost?  Would like them to accept gerber files for online ordering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:40:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:37:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:36:01
    He's away for University and won't be back for another month and so  :p. How do switches become ruined with too much lube :eek:?

    I think he used too much or lubed on the wrong spots.

    I will let him know and will report back once he tries this. Thanks again both of you :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:00:35
    What PCBs (apart from original Cherry) fit G80-3000 cases?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:20:53
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:00:35
    What PCBs (apart from original Cherry) fit G80-3000 cases?
    I think the only one is Leeku's 3000 PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:30:45
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:20:53
    I think the only one is Leeku's 3000 PCB.

    Is that still obtainable somehwere? I guess in the Korean forums? I only heard about the 1800 PCBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:32:32
    Any of you guys know where could I get a CCnG key set? Or I just have to wait in classifieds for one to pop up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:34:29
    Quote from: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:32:32
    Any of you guys know where could I get a CCnG key set? Or I just have to wait in classifieds for one to pop up?

    classifieds

    the gb starter had some extras but sold them all
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:34:43
    Quote from: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:32:32
    Or I just have to wait in classifieds for one to pop up?

    Yes. There was one quite recently, not sure if it's still available.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:37:44
    Quote from: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:32:32
    Any of you guys know where could I get a CCnG key set? Or I just have to wait in classifieds for one to pop up?

    ANSI? ISO? PBT? ABS? Profile?

    Ducky are releasing ISO, OEM profile, thick PBT, CCnG sets in the near future. Send an e-mail showing interest to: ducky@teraset.net

    I think they will come in both dyesub and blank variants, perhaps even engraved.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:44:16
    Quote from: epzy on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:37:44
    Quote from: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:32:32
    Any of you guys know where could I get a CCnG key set? Or I just have to wait in classifieds for one to pop up?

    ANSI? ISO? PBT? ABS? Profile?

    Ducky are releasing ISO, OEM profile, thick PBT, CCnG sets in the near future. Send an e-mail showing interest to: ducky@teraset.net

    I think they will come in both dyesub and blank variants, perhaps even engraved.

    Its gonna be an ANSI profile.

    Wow, I really thought I'm out of luck. I've been lurking the classifieds for a while now, but those things doesn't seem to pop up at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:24:54
    What's the easiest way to solder wires to this?

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/rsoAAOxy2zlScime/$(KGrHqNHJE4FJVC3Uf96BScimeodkQ~~60_3.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:30:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:24:54
    What's the easiest way to solder wires to this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/rsoAAOxy2zlScime/$(KGrHqNHJE4FJVC3Uf96BScimeodkQ~~60_3.JPG)


    Bend little hooks with the wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:32:09
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:30:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:24:54
    What's the easiest way to solder wires to this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/rsoAAOxy2zlScime/$(KGrHqNHJE4FJVC3Uf96BScimeodkQ~~60_3.JPG)


    Bend little hooks with the wire.

    So just be careful to not touch them together?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 10 March 2014, 18:08:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:32:09
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:30:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:24:54
    What's the easiest way to solder wires to this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/rsoAAOxy2zlScime/$(KGrHqNHJE4FJVC3Uf96BScimeodkQ~~60_3.JPG)


    Bend little hooks with the wire.

    So just be careful to not touch them together?

    And use heat shrink tubing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 18:52:35
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 10 March 2014, 18:08:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:32:09
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:30:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:24:54
    What's the easiest way to solder wires to this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/rsoAAOxy2zlScime/$(KGrHqNHJE4FJVC3Uf96BScimeodkQ~~60_3.JPG)


    Bend little hooks with the wire.

    So just be careful to not touch them together?

    And use heat shrink tubing.

    What size would be ideal?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 March 2014, 18:53:50
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 10 March 2014, 18:52:35
    What size would be ideal?

    One that isn't too big and still fits :rolleyes:

    They often come in packages with multiple sizes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 11 March 2014, 00:32:02
    Ok I have this AEK II with what I am sure is cream alps.  Hear is the thing though.  I want to convert it to Teensy powered but keep the same plug and connector and what not but it didn't come with a cord.  After a bit of research on wikipedia I have found that the ADB connector is a minidin 4 connector which happens to be the same as an S-Video plug.  Would someone be able to confirm that this (http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MD-40/CP-2040-ND/96912) is the correct plug.  Part number is MD-40 and to me it looks like the assembly process is as simple as soldering the wires on, and snap the rest of the connector together.

    Any help here will be appreciated.  This keyboard will probably be for sale when finished.  Now to find that retrobrite thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 11 March 2014, 01:41:02
    Is on cherry profile/SP vertical(+) keycap(numpad) include Row 1/2?

    thanks:)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 11 March 2014, 21:51:36
    Will a A.87 PCB fit in a KMAC2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Wed, 12 March 2014, 03:43:26
    Why is DSA more popular than DCS or OEM?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 12 March 2014, 03:53:07
    Quote from: hordak on Wed, 12 March 2014, 03:43:26
    Why is DSA more popular than DCS or OEM?

    That is not a fact!

    It's all about personal preference when it comes to keycap profiles. Each profiles has its own advantages and disadvantages.

    Looking at the popularity of GBs I'd rank the profiles as follows:

    Cherry > DCS > DSA / SA > OEM
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 12 March 2014, 04:07:02
    Quote from: hordak on Wed, 12 March 2014, 03:43:26
    Why is DSA more popular than DCS or OEM?

    The above, plus not many group buys are DSA, so when a DSA GB comes along many people get excited because it is something different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Wed, 12 March 2014, 05:17:32
    Ok, guess I got a wrong impression then. But then again, for example, most of the GB sets on pimpmykeyboard.com are DSA (3 DSA, 1 DCS, 1 Unknown), or is this just a momentarily situation?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 12 March 2014, 05:29:11
    Quote from: hordak on Wed, 12 March 2014, 05:17:32
    Ok, guess I got a wrong impression then. But then again, for example, most of the GB sets on pimpmykeyboard.com are DSA (3 DSA, 1 DCS, 1 Unknown), or is this just a momentarily situation?

    That's a coincidence because they happended to test their new system with Matt3o who is known to favor DSA profile.

    If you browse through the GB subforum you will see that many GBs in 2013 were DCS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Wed, 12 March 2014, 05:35:37
    Got it, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blackbox on Wed, 12 March 2014, 08:40:37
    Doublepost
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blackbox on Wed, 12 March 2014, 08:42:37
    Quote from: codyeatworld on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:34:31
    I also need some mx locks!

    tin never sent me mine....

    Quote from: kmiller8 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:30:02
    Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:13:41
    Where do I buy MX Lock switches?  I tried ordering from 7bit, but he cancelled the order for them.

    http://www.onlinecomponents.com/cherry-electrical-mx1a31nn.html?p=11075424

    Pricey as ****, but they claim to have them.

    Holy **** $11 for one switch...

    I am also looking for mx locks. It looks like they do not have them in stock now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: irendulic on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:54:21
    Hi everyone,

    can someone explain to me what's the deal with super-expensive keycaps? Why are those robot, mummies and similar keycaps so wanted, and why are they so ridiculously expensive?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:55:12
    Quote from: irendulic on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:54:21
    Hi everyone,

    can someone explain to me what's the deal with super-expensive keycaps? Why are those robot, mummies and similar keycaps so wanted, and why are they so ridiculously expensive?

    It's complicated, but short answer...supply and demand.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:59:33
    Quote from: irendulic on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:54:21
    Hi everyone,

    can someone explain to me what's the deal with super-expensive keycaps? Why are those robot, mummies and similar keycaps so wanted, and why are they so ridiculously expensive?

    That's (more or less) in the FAQ: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_QQQ
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:49:42
    What's the difference between the RealForce 104u and 104u-DK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:50:46
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:49:42
    What's the difference between the RealForce 104u and 104u-DK?

    Keycap and case color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:53:07
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:49:42
    What's the difference between the RealForce 104u and 104u-DK?

    Also the 104U is variable weighted according to elitekeyboards website, the 104u-DK has uniform 45g weighted keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: irendulic on Wed, 12 March 2014, 17:00:48
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 12 March 2014, 15:59:33

    That's (more or less) in the FAQ: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_QQQ

    Thanks! Wasn't aware those were called ClickClacks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 17:13:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:53:07
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:49:42
    What's the difference between the RealForce 104u and 104u-DK?

    Also the 104U is variable weighted according to elitekeyboards website, the 104u-DK has uniform 45g weighted keys.

    What are the differences in color? i thought 104U is white, and 104UB is black, but i don't know what the -DK at the end stand for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 12 March 2014, 17:15:46
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 17:13:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:53:07
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:49:42
    What's the difference between the RealForce 104u and 104u-DK?

    Also the 104U is variable weighted according to elitekeyboards website, the 104u-DK has uniform 45g weighted keys.

    What are the differences in color? i thought 104U is white, and 104UB is black, but i don't know what the -DK at the end stand for.

    DK is the two color setup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 19:34:43
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 17:13:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:53:07
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 16:49:42
    What's the difference between the RealForce 104u and 104u-DK?

    Also the 104U is variable weighted according to elitekeyboards website, the 104u-DK has uniform 45g weighted keys.

    What are the differences in color? i thought 104U is white, and 104UB is black, but i don't know what the -DK at the end stand for.

    The DK stands for Ducky, they were the distributor for the board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:00:50
    Can anyone identify this funky alps board?

    (http://i.imgur.com/MMd0mDU.jpg)

    The back has no identifying marks, but it is made of steel.

    (http://i.imgur.com/RdHr5BU.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:11:23
    Alps layouts crack me up every time :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:07:42
    Hey guys. Does anyone know what type of wire you need to make USB to mini USB and USB to micro USB cables? Thanks! :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:08:36
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:07:42
    Hey guys. Does anyone know what type of wire you need to make USB to mini USB and USB to micro USB cables? Thanks! :thumb:

    regular wire
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:19:37
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:08:36
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:07:42
    Hey guys. Does anyone know what type of wire you need to make USB to mini USB and USB to micro USB cables? Thanks! :thumb:

    regular wire

    Thanks but what is "regular wire?" I know absolutely nothing on this topic and google wasn't much help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:30:02
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:19:37
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:08:36
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:07:42
    Hey guys. Does anyone know what type of wire you need to make USB to mini USB and USB to micro USB cables? Thanks! :thumb:

    regular wire

    Thanks but what is "regular wire?" I know absolutely nothing on this topic and google wasn't much help.

    Pretty much any old wire that has a thin covering will work. Take an old cable and strip it for wire is the easiest, otherwise you can buy some off of ebay
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:36:39
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:30:02
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:19:37
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:08:36
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:07:42
    Hey guys. Does anyone know what type of wire you need to make USB to mini USB and USB to micro USB cables? Thanks! :thumb:

    regular wire

    Thanks but what is "regular wire?" I know absolutely nothing on this topic and google wasn't much help.

    Pretty much any old wire that has a thin covering will work. Take an old cable and strip it for wire is the easiest, otherwise you can buy some off of ebay

    I think what he might be getting at and one that I was wondering is what gauge is normally used for custom cables? 

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:40:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:36:39
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:30:02
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:19:37
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:08:36
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:07:42
    Hey guys. Does anyone know what type of wire you need to make USB to mini USB and USB to micro USB cables? Thanks! :thumb:

    regular wire

    Thanks but what is "regular wire?" I know absolutely nothing on this topic and google wasn't much help.

    Pretty much any old wire that has a thin covering will work. Take an old cable and strip it for wire is the easiest, otherwise you can buy some off of ebay

    I think what he might be getting at and one that I was wondering is what gauge is normally used for custom cables?

    Wouldn't it depend on the size of the sleeving?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:45:07
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:40:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:36:39
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:30:02
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:19:37
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:08:36
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:07:42
    Hey guys. Does anyone know what type of wire you need to make USB to mini USB and USB to micro USB cables? Thanks! :thumb:

    regular wire

    Thanks but what is "regular wire?" I know absolutely nothing on this topic and google wasn't much help.

    Pretty much any old wire that has a thin covering will work. Take an old cable and strip it for wire is the easiest, otherwise you can buy some off of ebay

    I think what he might be getting at and one that I was wondering is what gauge is normally used for custom cables?

    Wouldn't it depend on the size of the sleeving?

    Without worrying about sleeving what size works nicely soldering to the connectors?  Don't really need it anyway since you can sleeve the individual wires and braid them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:50:46
    One more alps question: The big ass enter key on one of my alps keyboards keeps getting stuck and no matter what I do I can't fix the problem. It looks like all the stabilizers are facing the right way, so what could possibly be going wrong? Does anyone have a specific strategy for replacing alps enter keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: boardcolletor on Thu, 13 March 2014, 02:22:27
    Quote from: gh_pp on Thu, 20 February 2014, 01:38:41
    you need to use proxy to buy it from china

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.2KTaWd&id=36392535695
    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.2KTaWd&id=14384988030

    they only have 1-5 sets of each color.

    You can directly buy them from pabbos. Just paste the Taobao Link in the search Bar.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:19:32
    http://m.ebay.ca/itm/271101264283?nav=SEARCH

    Is this the type of cable you need to make USB cables? Provided you have the connectors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 08:50:24
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:19:32
    http://m.ebay.ca/itm/271101264283?nav=SEARCH

    Is this the type of cable you need to make USB cables? Provided you have the connectors.

    I always use normal USB cables and cut the ends off. I think that's actually what most people do.

    Edit: I'm assuming with "making USB cables" you mean sleeving?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:08:47
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:00:50
    Can anyone identify this funky alps board?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MMd0mDU.jpg)


    The back has no identifying marks, but it is made of steel.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RdHr5BU.jpg)


    Maybe a clone of a Northgate Omnikey? It looks like it's got the trap door on the upper left with dip switches inside? But it's missing the traditional function row... weird.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:27:49
    Would anyone here recommend a WASD V2 Black(barebones, with blank DSA caps from SP) over say...a Filco MJ2 or a Ducky S3 Black?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:35:15
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:27:49
    Would anyone here recommend a WASD V2 Black(barebones, with blank DSA caps from SP) over say...a Filco MJ2 or a Ducky S3 Black?

    Those are all keyboards with a good reputation, you can't really go wrong with any of those.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:37:13

    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:27:49
    Would anyone here recommend a WASD V2 Black(barebones, with blank DSA caps from SP) over say...a Filco MJ2 or a Ducky S3 Black?

    I've only heard good things about WASD's build quality. It's not mentioned as often as Filco, but that could be simply because more people have Filcos. If I were planning on immediately swapping caps, I'd buy the WASD barebones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:46:38
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:27:49
    Would anyone here recommend a WASD V2 Black(barebones, with blank DSA caps from SP) over say...a Filco MJ2 or a Ducky S3 Black?

    It all depends on what you want out of a keyboard, all those keyboards have different features.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:49:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 08:50:24
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:19:32
    http://m.ebay.ca/itm/271101264283?nav=SEARCH

    Is this the type of cable you need to make USB cables? Provided you have the connectors.

    I always use normal USB cables and cut the ends off. I think that's actually what most people do.

    Edit: I'm assuming with "making USB cables" you mean sleeving?

    Nope. I mean opening the cable and soldering the individual wires to their respectable places on the connectors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:54:05
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:49:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 08:50:24
    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:19:32
    http://m.ebay.ca/itm/271101264283?nav=SEARCH (http://m.ebay.ca/itm/271101264283?nav=SEARCH)

    Is this the type of cable you need to make USB cables? Provided you have the connectors.

    I always use normal USB cables and cut the ends off. I think that's actually what most people do.

    Edit: I'm assuming with "making USB cables" you mean sleeving?

    Nope. I mean opening the cable and soldering the individual wires to their respectable places on the connectors.

    You want bulk usb cable. It will have 4 diff color wires in it usually. Check this thread out -> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44924.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44924.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:04:56
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:46:38
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:27:49
    Would anyone here recommend a WASD V2 Black(barebones, with blank DSA caps from SP) over say...a Filco MJ2 or a Ducky S3 Black?

    It all depends on what you want out of a keyboard, all those keyboards have different features.

    Well I just sold my Brown Poker II, the stabs were too mushy for me, I can't stop thinking about how mushy the stabs were even when I'm asleep that I'd get nightmares(about the mushiness). Decided to put it up for sale the next day. I'm now looking for a replacement, kinda waiting for the Novatouch, and I need a new keyboard to tide me over these few months.

    I mainly play FPS, but the amount of gaming time has been reduced to almost nil due to the amount of work I have to do(college). Now I mostly type papers and stuff. Any recommendations?

    Oh, did I forget to mention that I absolutely hated the stabs on the Poker II? Most probably going for something close to a Topre, like blacks or reds. Though I feel that the reds might be a little too light for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:12:51
    Does the LZ MX have similar debounce issues that the LZ GH had/has? I know LZ released software to fix..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:14:29
    The mushiness you describe is due to the Cherry stabilizers of the Poker II.

    Ducky also uses Cherry Stabs, so it will probably feel exactly the same. You could do the Clipping Mod to improve the feel of the stabilizers (there is a vid on youtube for it).

    Or you could buy a Filco / WASD V2 which has Costar Stabilizers. Those don't feel mushy, but rather precise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:22:07
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:14:29
    The mushiness you describe is due to the Cherry stabilizers of the Poker II.

    Ducky also uses Cherry Stabs, so it will probably feel exactly the same. You could do the Clipping Mod to improve the feel of the stabilizers (there is a vid on youtube for it).

    Or you could buy a Filco / WASD V2 which has Costar Stabilizers. Those don't feel mushy, but rather precise.

    The ducky shine 3 stabilizers are clipped from the factory, personally I like the feeling of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:22:57
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:14:29
    The mushiness you describe is due to the Cherry stabilizers of the Poker II.

    Ducky also uses Cherry Stabs, so it will probably feel exactly the same. You could do the Clipping Mod to improve the feel of the stabilizers (there is a vid on youtube for it).

    Or you could buy a Filco / WASD V2 which has Costar Stabilizers. Those don't feel mushy, but rather precise.

    So this narrows it down to the Filco and the WASD. The first commenter here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1kl1bo/cant_decidewasd_v2_104key_vs_filco_ninja/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1kl1bo/cant_decidewasd_v2_104key_vs_filco_ninja/) claims that the Filco has a better build quality than the WASD. Would anyone care to confirm that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 13 March 2014, 11:02:40
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:22:57
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:14:29
    The mushiness you describe is due to the Cherry stabilizers of the Poker II.

    Ducky also uses Cherry Stabs, so it will probably feel exactly the same. You could do the Clipping Mod to improve the feel of the stabilizers (there is a vid on youtube for it).

    Or you could buy a Filco / WASD V2 which has Costar Stabilizers. Those don't feel mushy, but rather precise.

    So this narrows it down to the Filco and the WASD. The first commenter here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1kl1bo/cant_decidewasd_v2_104key_vs_filco_ninja/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1kl1bo/cant_decidewasd_v2_104key_vs_filco_ninja/) claims that the Filco has a better build quality than the WASD. Would anyone care to confirm that?

    I don't see why or how Filco MJ2 is 'miles ahead of WASD v2', they are pretty similar in my opinion, but I believe that the WASD v2 has a detachable cable and some other features like dip switches that Filco doesn't have. And don't listen to him about the keycaps, ABS can be bad, but so can PBT. High quality ABS (i.e. Cherry/GMK) is not 'crap'. I don't think you can go wrong either way; but I personally chose the Filco because of its reputation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 13 March 2014, 11:47:25
    Q: I did a ergo clear mod (blue springs in clear switches). some of the switches like to stay in the down position unless I press the key again to make it bounce back up. I also stickered and lubed them...
     MOAR LUBE? :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Thu, 13 March 2014, 11:54:11
    Quote from: domoaligato on Thu, 13 March 2014, 11:47:25
    Q: I did a ergo clear mod (blue springs in clear switches). some of the switches like to stay in the down position unless I press the key again to make it bounce back up. I also stickered and lubed them...
     MOAR LUBE? :D
    You can try lubing them more, or just some stiffer springs. People reported problems like this so thats why many prefer 62g springs, they are just slightly heavier than blue/red/brown just enough to pop the stem right back when de pressed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:27:53
    Quote from: epzy on Thu, 13 March 2014, 11:02:40
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:22:57
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:14:29
    The mushiness you describe is due to the Cherry stabilizers of the Poker II.

    Ducky also uses Cherry Stabs, so it will probably feel exactly the same. You could do the Clipping Mod to improve the feel of the stabilizers (there is a vid on youtube for it).

    Or you could buy a Filco / WASD V2 which has Costar Stabilizers. Those don't feel mushy, but rather precise.

    So this narrows it down to the Filco and the WASD. The first commenter here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1kl1bo/cant_decidewasd_v2_104key_vs_filco_ninja/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1kl1bo/cant_decidewasd_v2_104key_vs_filco_ninja/) claims that the Filco has a better build quality than the WASD. Would anyone care to confirm that?

    I don't see why or how Filco MJ2 is 'miles ahead of WASD v2', they are pretty similar in my opinion, but I believe that the WASD v2 has a detachable cable and some other features like dip switches that Filco doesn't have. And don't listen to him about the keycaps, ABS can be bad, but so can PBT. High quality ABS (i.e. Cherry/GMK) is not 'crap'. I don't think you can go wrong either way; but I personally chose the Filco because of its reputation.

    I haven't tried a WASD v2, but I have compared Filco next to many other brands incl. Ducky and felt that the quality and fit/finish was better on the Filco.  However, it seems to me from reading what people have said about WASD that you will not be disappointed with either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:42:32
    Advice on a nice entry level TKL with cherry blues for someone who has never owned a mechanical keyboard? Used for causal gaming with RTS and typing. LED's would be nice but this person has a $120 limit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:44:48
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:42:32
    Advice on a nice entry level TKL with cherry blues for someone who has never owned a mechanical keyboard? Used for causal gaming with RTS and typing. LED's would be nice but this person has a $120 limit.

    You're going to get so many QFR* responses to this question. :)

    * CoolerMaster CM Storm QuickFire Rapid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:51:22
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:44:48
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:42:32
    Advice on a nice entry level TKL with cherry blues for someone who has never owned a mechanical keyboard? Used for causal gaming with RTS and typing. LED's would be nice but this person has a $120 limit.

    You're going to get so many QFR* responses to this question. :)

    * CoolerMaster CM Storm QuickFire Rapid.

    I hear they are coming out with a new board next month? ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Thu, 13 March 2014, 16:56:11
    How long do thick PBT caps usually last resp. how long does it take them to get shiny/greasy under medium typing conditions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 13 March 2014, 16:59:03
    Quote from: hordak on Thu, 13 March 2014, 16:56:11
    How long do thick PBT caps usually last resp. how long does it take them to get shiny/greasy under medium typing conditions?

    Shiny...just short of forever. Some people use them for years, with hardly any shine.

    Dirty, about 0.02 milliseconds. They are great for cleaning your fingertips!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Thu, 13 March 2014, 17:11:03
    Thanks, that's good to hear. I'm gonna get me one set of these then as the stock ABS on my QFR are barely 4 months old but already dying. Three more questions though:

    1) How do you guys clean these caps? Will 70% alcohol damage the PBT/texture?
    2) Are the thick PBT caps (imsto) to heavy for mx reds?
    3) Any experience combining these with the EK soft landing pads?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alosec on Thu, 13 March 2014, 17:27:51
    heyo, I have a leopold fc660c and while I love the keyboard for typing, it's not the best for gaming because the keys are too light and sometimes a little mushy. I like blues for gaming because they are heavier and give good tactile feedback but they are too scratchy for typing/general use... I use my keyboard for 2-3 hrs every night of heavy fps gaming, would a 55g RF be good for me? if no, what other board would anyone recommend? thanks bros.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 17:32:55
    Quote from: hordak on Thu, 13 March 2014, 17:11:03
    1) How do you guys clean these caps? Will 70% alcohol damage the PBT/texture?
    2) Are the thick PBT caps (imsto) to heavy for mx reds?
    3) Any experience combining these with the EK soft landing pads?

    1. Denture tablets are a quick and easy solution.
    2. Shouldn't be too heavy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 13 March 2014, 17:36:00
    Quote from: digi on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:12:51
    Does the LZ MX have similar debounce issues that the LZ GH had/has? I know LZ released software to fix..

    LZ-MX uses an entirely different PCB with different firmware, so TRiK PCB issues are not related to it.  But you'd have to ask LZ-MX users if their firmware is alright.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:19:46
    Do either the WASD V2 or Filco use micro USB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:21:45
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:19:46
    Do either the WASD V2 or Filco use micro USB?

    Only the WASD V2, Filco has a non-removable cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 13 March 2014, 20:08:04
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:19:46
    Do either the WASD V2 or Filco use micro USB?

    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:21:45
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:19:46
    Do either the WASD V2 or Filco use micro USB?

    Only the WASD V2, Filco has a non-removable cable.

    But you can buy a detachable cable mod from here; http://pexonpcs.co.uk/Detachable-Filco-Mod-Kit-_p_30.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 21:01:56
    Quote from: epzy on Thu, 13 March 2014, 20:08:04
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:19:46
    Do either the WASD V2 or Filco use micro USB?

    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:21:45
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:19:46
    Do either the WASD V2 or Filco use micro USB?

    Only the WASD V2, Filco has a non-removable cable.

    But you can buy a detachable cable mod from here; http://pexonpcs.co.uk/Detachable-Filco-Mod-Kit-_p_30.html

    Which would be the cheaper one between the two, including the cable mod?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 13 March 2014, 21:07:32
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 21:01:56
    Quote from: epzy on Thu, 13 March 2014, 20:08:04
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:19:46
    Do either the WASD V2 or Filco use micro USB?

    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:21:45
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 18:19:46
    Do either the WASD V2 or Filco use micro USB?

    Only the WASD V2, Filco has a non-removable cable.

    But you can buy a detachable cable mod from here; http://pexonpcs.co.uk/Detachable-Filco-Mod-Kit-_p_30.html

    Which would be the cheaper one between the two, including the cable mod?

    WASD I think, but the Filco is better IMO.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 22:11:01
    Does everyone agree that the Filco is better than the WASD V2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RESPRiT on Thu, 13 March 2014, 22:12:46
    I would prefer Filco over WASD, but I haven't had a lot of exposure to WASD boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:52:18
    Does anyone feel the scratchiness on some Cherry MX Red recently?
    Comparing to my previous Cherry MX Red, this one is very different. I can feel the scratchiness on my fingers obviously.
    Of course, it has nothing to do with keyboard manufacturer.
    Is it because of Cherry production line different?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:57:14

    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:52:18
    Does anyone feel the scratchiness on some Cherry MX Red recently?
    Comparing to my previous Cherry MX Red, this one is very different. I can feel the scratchiness on my fingers obviously.
    Of course, it has nothing to do with keyboard manufacturer.
    Is it because of Cherry production line different?

    Nothing has changed in production. I've heard people report that the feel of new reds change over the course of a few month break-in period. You could also lube them, but you should really break them in first.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:59:57
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:57:14

    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:52:18
    Does anyone feel the scratchiness on some Cherry MX Red recently?
    Comparing to my previous Cherry MX Red, this one is very different. I can feel the scratchiness on my fingers obviously.
    Of course, it has nothing to do with keyboard manufacturer.
    Is it because of Cherry production line different?

    Nothing has changed in production. I've heard people report that the feel of new reds change over the course of a few month break-in period. You could also lube them, but you should really break them in first.

    Well noted with thanks.
    I will try to reach beyond their break-in point then.
    Perhaps spamming more on GH can help?  ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 14 March 2014, 06:02:38
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:59:57
    Perhaps spamming more on GH can help?  ^-^

    Always a good idea  :thumb:

    Ask SpAmRaY for his expertise on that matter :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 06:08:07
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Fri, 14 March 2014, 06:02:38
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:59:57
    Perhaps spamming more on GH can help?  ^-^

    Always a good idea  :thumb:

    Ask SpAmRaY for his expertise on that matter :p

    hahaha, good idea  :thumb:
    I will PM him, ask him and we can plan an evil plan.
    Together, we will spam GH and bring everything down its end :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:46:50
    Is there a thread anywhere of typing sounds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:48:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:46:50
    Is there a thread anywhere of typing sounds?
    What exactly are you looking for? Explain more please :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:56:03
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:48:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:46:50
    Is there a thread anywhere of typing sounds?
    What exactly are you looking for? Explain more please :)


    I didn't now if we had a thread anywhere dedicated to sounds, typing sounds etc. Like different switches, boards etc.

    I was considering posting a guess the sound thread but it seems like uploading and streaming sounds might be pain for people.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:57:17
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:48:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:46:50
    Is there a thread anywhere of typing sounds?
    What exactly are you looking for? Explain more please :)

    I think he's looking after a big thread with lots of different typing videos with different keyboards.

    Nvm, he answered already. ^^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 14:00:50
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:56:03
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:48:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:46:50
    Is there a thread anywhere of typing sounds?
    What exactly are you looking for? Explain more please :)


    I didn't now if we had a thread anywhere dedicated to sounds, typing sounds etc. Like different switches, boards etc.

    I was considering posting a guess the sound thread but it seems like uploading and streaming sounds might be pain for people.
    That is what I was thinking, I might record some of my typing. I have been meaning to do it for awhile, I can record mx blacks/reds, blues/greens, buckling springs/capacitive buckling springs.

    I might record some stuff later today and upload it to soundcloud.

    You should start a thread though  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 14:01:25
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 14:00:50
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:56:03
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:48:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:46:50
    Is there a thread anywhere of typing sounds?
    What exactly are you looking for? Explain more please :)


    I didn't now if we had a thread anywhere dedicated to sounds, typing sounds etc. Like different switches, boards etc.

    I was considering posting a guess the sound thread but it seems like uploading and streaming sounds might be pain for people.
    That is what I was thinking, I might record some of my typing. I have been meaning to do it for awhile, I can record mx blacks/reds, blues/greens, buckling springs/capacitive buckling springs.

    I might record some stuff later today and upload it to soundcloud.

    You should start a thread though  :thumb:

    Nah I suck at threads, you start a thread haha :P :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 15:24:19
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 14:01:25
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 14:00:50
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:56:03
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:48:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:46:50
    Is there a thread anywhere of typing sounds?
    What exactly are you looking for? Explain more please :)


    I didn't now if we had a thread anywhere dedicated to sounds, typing sounds etc. Like different switches, boards etc.

    I was considering posting a guess the sound thread but it seems like uploading and streaming sounds might be pain for people.
    That is what I was thinking, I might record some of my typing. I have been meaning to do it for awhile, I can record mx blacks/reds, blues/greens, buckling springs/capacitive buckling springs.

    I might record some stuff later today and upload it to soundcloud.

    You should start a thread though  :thumb:

    Nah I suck at threads, you start a thread haha :P :D
    Okay then, it wont be a sound guessing thread, just a place for people to post their keyboard sound recordings. That way it will actually have some longevity, because after people guess the switches, it is over :P

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: findingthelimit on Fri, 14 March 2014, 15:58:42
    What reputable brands sell boards with green switches, aside from Cooler Master (QFR) and WASD (CODE)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 March 2014, 15:59:25
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Fri, 14 March 2014, 15:58:42
    What reputable brands sell boards with green switches, aside from Cooler Master (QFR) and WASD (CODE)?

    Leopold offers green switches as an option with the FC660M.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 16:07:34
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Fri, 14 March 2014, 15:58:42
    What reputable brands sell boards with green switches, aside from Cooler Master (QFR) and WASD (CODE)?

    ducky...

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=667

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: findingthelimit on Fri, 14 March 2014, 22:07:26
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 March 2014, 15:59:25
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Fri, 14 March 2014, 15:58:42
    What reputable brands sell boards with green switches, aside from Cooler Master (QFR) and WASD (CODE)?

    Leopold offers green switches as an option with the FC660M.

    Does the leopold FC700R have a version with a numpad, and does it come with green switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 15 March 2014, 03:55:57
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Fri, 14 March 2014, 22:07:26
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 March 2014, 15:59:25
    Quote from: findingthelimit on Fri, 14 March 2014, 15:58:42
    What reputable brands sell boards with green switches, aside from Cooler Master (QFR) and WASD (CODE)?

    Leopold offers green switches as an option with the FC660M.

    Does the leopold FC700R have a version with a numpad, and does it come with green switches?

    No, only tenkeyless version with MX Black, Red, Blue or Brown.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 12:30:07
    Is it possible to reanodize a case thats already been anodized?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:36:01
    Question 1: the HHKB is the only small (mini) form factory keyboard with topres, right?
    Question 2: is the HHKB programable like the Poker 2 and if yes, can you move the arrow keys to WASD?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:37:04
    Quote from: hordak on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:36:01
    Question 1: the HHKB is the only small (mini) form factory keyboard with topres, right?
    Question 2: is the HHKB programable like the Poker 2 and if yes, can you move the arrow keys to WASD?

    HHKB is only 60% topref660c >:D

    HHKB is not programable, however Hasu is working on a new controller for it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:39:33
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 12:30:07
    Is it possible to reanodize a case thats already been anodized?

    Yes, but I think it needs to get sandblasted first. If you found somebody who anodizes metal parts he can probably help you out.

    Quote from: hordak on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:36:01
    Question 1: the HHKB is the only small (mini) form factory keyboard with topres, right?
    Question 2: is the HHKB programable like the Poker 2 and if yes, can you move the arrow keys to WASD?

    1. No, there is also the Leopold FC660C.
    2. No.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:42:59
     :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:45:50
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:39:33
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 12:30:07
    Is it possible to reanodize a case thats already been anodized?

    Yes, but I think it needs to get sandblasted first. If you found somebody who anodizes metal parts he can probably help you out.


    Sweet. I'll probably buy some cheaper priced cases that are soft anodized and have them hard anodized ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:54:55
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:42:59
    I wanna know this as well.
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:45:50
    Sweet. I'll probably buy some cheaper priced cases that are soft anodized and have them hard anodized ;D

    Just looked it up, you can strip parts of the anodizing with lye for example, but usually the anodizer does that for you. The size might slightly change (because it actually removes a tiny layer of aluminium), but I think it should be fine for the screws and such. Again, an anodizer should be able to tell you what is possible and what not in a lot more detail.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:56:45
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:54:55
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:42:59
    I wanna know this as well.
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:45:50
    Sweet. I'll probably buy some cheaper priced cases that are soft anodized and have them hard anodized ;D

    Just looked it up, you can strip parts of the anodizing with lye for example, but usually the anodizer does that for you. The size might slightly change (because it actually removes a tiny layer of aluminium), but I think it should be fine for the screws and such. Again, an anodizer should be able to tell you what is possible and what not in a lot more detail.

    Thanks for the help!

    When I do get a case re anodized, I'll contact whoever does them locally and see exactly the process
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 15 March 2014, 14:16:51
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:56:45
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:54:55
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:42:59
    I wanna know this as well.
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 13:45:50
    Sweet. I'll probably buy some cheaper priced cases that are soft anodized and have them hard anodized ;D

    Just looked it up, you can strip parts of the anodizing with lye for example, but usually the anodizer does that for you. The size might slightly change (because it actually removes a tiny layer of aluminium), but I think it should be fine for the screws and such. Again, an anodizer should be able to tell you what is possible and what not in a lot more detail.

    Thanks for the help!

    When I do get a case re anodized, I'll contact whoever does them locally and see exactly the process

    You can also talk to Photoelectric about this. Photo had that LZ-GH reanodized, and it came out great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 14:39:49
    Quote from: Slowdiving on Sat, 01 March 2014, 23:29:16
    Can I use the Pexon filco mod on my RF87U?  Or am I better getting a USB mini extender, cutting/soldering it to a mobo header and attaching that to my PCB?

    Don't think you can use the Pexon Filco Mod. Why don't you ask him or tjcuaustin if they can make you a detachable RF87U cable? Your idea will also work.

    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:30:05
    i wonder how to remap arrows from wasd to Fn, Pn, CTRL?
    Tilde/Esc can i use them independently, switching from one to the other? 
    also heard about firmware? does i need to update (NKRO on USB)

    You could try autohotkey.


    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 15:53:36
    http://imgur.com/a/x8tF9

    Is there something that can be added to this case + Poker 2 to make it heavier, if so what would that be? I'm asking for someone else.

    You can try seeing if any of the suggestions in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55182.5) will help you.

    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 08 March 2014, 00:33:29
    On SP Keycap Vertical numpad (+),include row?    on WASD/OEM is R3

    I think it's row 3 as well.

    Quote from: dnix on Thu, 06 March 2014, 05:22:04
    How does one create mock-ups like these (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54334.msg1220376#msg1220376) ?

    Check out the OP. There's quite a few tools listed to make the mockups.

    Quote from: tribade on Sun, 09 March 2014, 14:04:33
    I'm trying to put my RF into a digil0g case, but goddamnit I can't get the screw off the ground on the usb cable.  This is the one here:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ieJ86.jpg)
    (that's the bottom of the board, the top is a phillips head screw, about 3mm I believe.

    Do they put some kind of lock tight on it now?  Any tips or hints?

    Could be lock tight. Did you try holding the nut with a socket and then unscrewing the screw?

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:39:19
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 10 March 2014, 11:36:01
    1) He's away for University and won't be back for another month and so  :p. How do switches become ruined with too much lube :eek:?

    2) Are there any PCB manufacturers that are on par with OshPark as far as quality vs cost?  Would like them to accept gerber files for online ordering.

    1) Lube can cause the contact to be off.
    2) I'm not sure. I've never personally ordered a PCB. But this link (http://www.meatandnetworking.com/resources/cheap-prototype-pcb-comparison/) seems to show a few competitors to Osh Park.

    Quote from: stancato9 on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:07:42
    Hey guys. Does anyone know what type of wire you need to make USB to mini USB and USB to micro USB cables?

    You can just use hookup wire that's a small gauge like 24 gauge.

    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:50:46
    One more alps question: The big ass enter key on one of my alps keyboards keeps getting stuck and no matter what I do I can't fix the problem. It looks like all the stabilizers are facing the right way, so what could possibly be going wrong? Does anyone have a specific strategy for replacing alps enter keys?

    Think one of your wires are binding. There's quite a few wires on it and one is probably jamming when you're popping it on. Just keep trying? Alps stuff can be really tricky :(.

    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:00:50
    Can anyone identify this funky alps board?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MMd0mDU.jpg)


    The back has no identifying marks, but it is made of steel.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RdHr5BU.jpg)


    Looks like a Northgate Omnikey 102 Clone.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 11 March 2014, 00:32:02
    1) Ok I have this AEK II with what I am sure is cream alps.  Hear is the thing though.  I want to convert it to Teensy powered but keep the same plug and connector and what not but it didn't come with a cord.  After a bit of research on wikipedia I have found that the ADB connector is a minidin 4 connector which happens to be the same as an S-Video plug.  Would someone be able to confirm that this (http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MD-40/CP-2040-ND/96912) is the correct plug.  Part number is MD-40 and to me it looks like the assembly process is as simple as soldering the wires on, and snap the rest of the connector together.

    2) Now to find that retrobrite thread.

    1) I'm a little confused. Why convert it to Teensy but not convert it to USB. What could you plug a S Video into?
    2) Retr0bright (http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/) Wiki thread.

    Quote from: Dreamre on Tue, 11 March 2014, 21:51:36
    Will a A.87 PCB fit in a KMAC2?

    It might but I'd recommend you get a KMAC PCB instead. I think that the KMAC PCBs are better than the A.87 PCBs.

    Quote from: domoaligato on Thu, 13 March 2014, 11:47:25
    Q: I did a ergo clear mod (blue springs in clear switches). some of the switches like to stay in the down position unless I press the key again to make it bounce back up. I also stickered and lubed them...
     MOAR LUBE? :D

    I never figured out the fix for this. I just know it can be a problem with ergo-clears. You can try more lube but honestly, I'm not sure the stock blue springs are strong enough. Try lubing the spring as well.

    Quote from: alosec on Thu, 13 March 2014, 17:27:51
    heyo, I have a leopold fc660c and while I love the keyboard for typing, it's not the best for gaming because the keys are too light and sometimes a little mushy. I like blues for gaming because they are heavier and give good tactile feedback but they are too scratchy for typing/general use... I use my keyboard for 2-3 hrs every night of heavy fps gaming, would a 55g RF be good for me? if no, what other board would anyone recommend? thanks bros.

    I always thought that 45g Topre boards were too light/mushy and that 55g boards felt like "proper" Topre switches. However I'm not a Topre enthusiast so I don't have too much personal experience.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:56:03
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:48:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:46:50
    Is there a thread anywhere of typing sounds?
    What exactly are you looking for? Explain more please :)

    I didn't now if we had a thread anywhere dedicated to sounds, typing sounds etc. Like different switches, boards etc.

    I was considering posting a guess the sound thread but it seems like uploading and streaming sounds might be pain for people.

    Check out Mr Interface's website (http://www.mrinterface.com/). The column "Sim" has sounds. When the keyboard pops up you can type and it will register sounds. You can also watch his videos. Making a thread to compile sounds would also be a cool idea. Be like Nike and just do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 15 March 2014, 15:52:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 14:39:49

    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:50:46
    One more alps question: The big ass enter key on one of my alps keyboards keeps getting stuck and no matter what I do I can't fix the problem. It looks like all the stabilizers are facing the right way, so what could possibly be going wrong? Does anyone have a specific strategy for replacing alps enter keys?

    Think one of your wires are binding. There's quite a few wires on it and one is probably jamming when you're popping it on. Just keep trying? Alps stuff can be really tricky :(.

    After playing with it for another hour or so, I thought to try completely removing the stabilizers and stabilizer clips, and it's still getting stuck. Any other keycap except for Enter works on that switch  :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 15:58:13
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 15 March 2014, 15:52:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 14:39:49

    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:50:46
    One more alps question: The big ass enter key on one of my alps keyboards keeps getting stuck and no matter what I do I can't fix the problem. It looks like all the stabilizers are facing the right way, so what could possibly be going wrong? Does anyone have a specific strategy for replacing alps enter keys?

    Think one of your wires are binding. There's quite a few wires on it and one is probably jamming when you're popping it on. Just keep trying? Alps stuff can be really tricky :(.

    After playing with it for another hour or so, I thought to try completely removing the stabilizers and stabilizer clips, and it's still getting stuck. Any other keycap except for Enter works on that switch  :-\

    Maybe it's the keycap itself? Perhaps its molded poorly. Do you have another Enter you could try using?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 15 March 2014, 16:07:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 15:58:13
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 15 March 2014, 15:52:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 14:39:49

    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Thu, 13 March 2014, 00:50:46
    One more alps question: The big ass enter key on one of my alps keyboards keeps getting stuck and no matter what I do I can't fix the problem. It looks like all the stabilizers are facing the right way, so what could possibly be going wrong? Does anyone have a specific strategy for replacing alps enter keys?

    Think one of your wires are binding. There's quite a few wires on it and one is probably jamming when you're popping it on. Just keep trying? Alps stuff can be really tricky :(.

    After playing with it for another hour or so, I thought to try completely removing the stabilizers and stabilizer clips, and it's still getting stuck. Any other keycap except for Enter works on that switch  :-\

    Maybe it's the keycap itself? Perhaps its molded poorly. Do you have another Enter you could try using?

    Just tried flip flopping enter keys with another board, and the 'sticky' enter key works fine on my other board, but on the original board the problem is still there, even with a different enter key. I can't see any points where it's getting stuck on the edge of the case, so I guess it must be some part of the enter key getting stuck on the switch? If I'm careful, I can push it to the point where it will actuate and then it will come back up, but any further than that and it gets stuck.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 15 March 2014, 16:10:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 14:39:49
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:00:50
    Can anyone identify this funky alps board?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MMd0mDU.jpg)


    The back has no identifying marks, but it is made of steel.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RdHr5BU.jpg)


    Looks like a Northgate Omnikey 102 Clone.
    It could well be an actual northgate board.  It has the RGB, doubleshots, metal back, etc. I don't have one to compare, but it's a good bet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 16:30:25
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 15 March 2014, 16:07:41
    Just tried flip flopping enter keys with another board, and the 'sticky' enter key works fine on my other board, but on the original board the problem is still there, even with a different enter key. I can't see any points where it's getting stuck on the edge of the case, so I guess it must be some part of the enter key getting stuck on the switch? If I'm careful, I can push it to the point where it will actuate and then it will come back up, but any further than that and it gets stuck.

    There's multiple sets of stabilizers on the enter right? Should be like 3-4 sets? What if you tried removing one at a time to see if one of the sets is the issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 15 March 2014, 19:17:47
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 15 March 2014, 16:10:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 14:39:49
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 12 March 2014, 20:00:50
    Can anyone identify this funky alps board?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MMd0mDU.jpg)


    The back has no identifying marks, but it is made of steel.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RdHr5BU.jpg)


    Looks like a Northgate Omnikey 102 Clone.
    It could well be an actual northgate board.  It has the RGB, doubleshots, metal back, etc. I don't have one to compare, but it's a good bet.

    Cool, thanks guys.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 March 2014, 16:30:25
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 15 March 2014, 16:07:41
    Just tried flip flopping enter keys with another board, and the 'sticky' enter key works fine on my other board, but on the original board the problem is still there, even with a different enter key. I can't see any points where it's getting stuck on the edge of the case, so I guess it must be some part of the enter key getting stuck on the switch? If I'm careful, I can push it to the point where it will actuate and then it will come back up, but any further than that and it gets stuck.

    There's multiple sets of stabilizers on the enter right? Should be like 3-4 sets? What if you tried removing one at a time to see if one of the sets is the issue.

    I tried that as well, didn't work.  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 23:59:03
    For the older DSA caps with really tight stems, could you make it looser by warming it up with a hairdryer and then while its soft put it on a switch and let it cool to a bigger size?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 16 March 2014, 11:26:57
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 23:59:03
    For the older DSA caps with really tight stems, could you make it looser by warming it up with a hairdryer and then while its soft put it on a switch and let it cool to a bigger size?

    I'm gonna say no.

    Plastic shrinks as it cools, so I'd even go as far to say it could make it worse.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 16 March 2014, 13:00:57
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 16 March 2014, 11:26:57
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 15 March 2014, 23:59:03
    For the older DSA caps with really tight stems, could you make it looser by warming it up with a hairdryer and then while its soft put it on a switch and let it cool to a bigger size?

    I'm gonna say no.

    Plastic shrinks as it cools, so I'd even go as far to say it could make it worse.

    Aww that sucks. This DSA retro GH key is stubborn af
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:06:53
    Is making your own EVA/Nylon molded keyboard carrying case possible, or does this process need expensive machinery.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:12:43
    Quote from: JaccoW on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:06:53
    Is making your own EVA/Nylon molded keyboard carrying case possible, or does this process need expensive machinery.

    I think you could do it. Buy some codura cloth. Put sandwich cardboard or a heavy cardstock between it. Then form a case. Sew on a zipper. Done. My sister made me a case and it wasn't *too* bad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:21:33
    I live in the US. Whats the fastest and most affordable way to get a poker 2? I was going to go with Qtan but wondering if there is a better option.

    I see mechanicalkeyboards.com has them too but I don't want backlighting, just MX brown or red.

    Also is there anywhere that sells the cherry GMK sets like originative used to sell? White and Beige?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:20:56
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:21:33
    I live in the US. Whats the fastest and most affordable way to get a poker 2? I was going to go with Qtan but wondering if there is a better option.

    Most people I know of got them from qtan.

    Quote from: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:21:33
    Also is there anywhere that sells the cherry GMK sets like originative used to sell? White and Beige?

    It looks like kbdmod.com sells them (http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=16&cate_no=12&display_group=1), but they're out of stock and you'd probably need a Korean proxy. I don't know of any other stores that have them regularly in stock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:30:28
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:20:56
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:21:33
    I live in the US. Whats the fastest and most affordable way to get a poker 2? I was going to go with Qtan but wondering if there is a better option.

    Most people I know of got them from qtan.

    Quote from: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:21:33
    Also is there anywhere that sells the cherry GMK sets like originative used to sell? White and Beige?

    It looks like kbdmod.com sells them (http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=16&cate_no=12&display_group=1), but they're out of stock and you'd probably need a Korean proxy. I don't know of any other stores that have them regularly in stock.
    Thanks. Out of stock thats a bummer. I guess the classifieds is my best shot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:19:49
    My 3700 is giving me a lot of trouble and is pretty uneven

    when I press on the right side, it makes a noise and wobbles, but the left side (top and bottom) are both ok. its just the top right side

    extremely aggravating, not sure what to do really. opened it up and everything is ok inside with the PCB placement and whatnot

    (http://i.imgur.com/2n1O6ws.jpg)

    heres what the back looks like (everythings ok)

    Not a valid vimeo URL
    heres a video (ready soon) of what it looks like

    should i try and weight one side? :////////
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:35:55
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:30:28
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:20:56
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:21:33
    I live in the US. Whats the fastest and most affordable way to get a poker 2? I was going to go with Qtan but wondering if there is a better option.

    Most people I know of got them from qtan.
    Thanks. Out of stock thats a bummer. I guess the classifieds is my best shot.

    MechanicalKeyboards.com (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=poker+ii&switch_id=ALL&size=ALL&man=ALL&key_plastic=ALL&interface=ALL&cord_length=ALL&usb_kro=ALL&ps2_kro=ALL&x=0&y=0&in_stock=on) seems to have plenty in stock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:36:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:35:55
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:30:28
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Sun, 16 March 2014, 17:20:56
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:21:33
    I live in the US. Whats the fastest and most affordable way to get a poker 2? I was going to go with Qtan but wondering if there is a better option.

    Most people I know of got them from qtan.
    Thanks. Out of stock thats a bummer. I guess the classifieds is my best shot.

    MechanicalKeyboards.com (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=poker+ii&switch_id=ALL&size=ALL&man=ALL&key_plastic=ALL&interface=ALL&cord_length=ALL&usb_kro=ALL&ps2_kro=ALL&x=0&y=0&in_stock=on) seems to have plenty in stock.

    Quote from: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 16:21:33

    I see mechanicalkeyboards.com has them too but I don't want backlighting, just MX brown or red.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 16 March 2014, 18:44:53
    Yeah don't want backlighting. How about a cheap brown QFR. Newegg is sold out. Missed it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 17 March 2014, 03:57:51
    I will happily desolder the LEDs out of it for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 04:25:02
    The backlit Pokers have ABS instead of PBT, so I think that's the issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 08:47:40
    Thanks guys. I'm leaning towards just getting a qfr and some caps instead. Not sure if 60% is for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 17 March 2014, 16:02:29
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 08:47:40
    Thanks guys. I'm leaning towards just getting a qfr and some caps instead. Not sure if 60% is for me.

    60% is a hard layout to get used to for a lot of people. I don't blame you.

    Personally, I recommend Filco as a brand. The stock keycaps are kinda crummy, I grant you, but they'll last long enough for you to get a nice thick PBT set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 17 March 2014, 16:10:23
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 17 March 2014, 16:02:29
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 08:47:40
    Thanks guys. I'm leaning towards just getting a qfr and some caps instead. Not sure if 60% is for me.

    60% is a hard layout to get used to for a lot of people. I don't blame you.

    Personally, I recommend Filco as a brand. The stock keycaps are kinda crummy, I grant you, but they'll last long enough for you to get a nice thick PBT set.

    Nothing wrong with QFR (or QFS), plus they re cheaper than Filco and will leave you more money afterwards for a good PBT set (he said, typing on his QFS with PBT dyesub set).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    So, stupid question time!

    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    tks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:31:40
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    Yes, you need a mini-USB to PS2 cable. Info from Sifo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:36:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:31:40
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    Yes, you need a mini-USB to PS2 cable. Info from Sifo.

    O Captain! My Captain! our fearful question is done;
    The ship has weather'd every rack, the answer we sought is won
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:10:36
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 17 March 2014, 16:02:29
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 08:47:40
    Thanks guys. I'm leaning towards just getting a qfr and some caps instead. Not sure if 60% is for me.

    60% is a hard layout to get used to for a lot of people. I don't blame you.

    Personally, I recommend Filco as a brand. The stock keycaps are kinda crummy, I grant you, but they'll last long enough for you to get a nice thick PBT set.
    Thanks, I do prefer filco. Had a few, but at almost twice the price I'm not sure its worth it. Just picked up another QFR. Wish I could find a nice set of Cherry beige DS's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:15:46
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    So, stupid question time!

    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    tks!

    You can also get a ps2avr-ext if that can be more convenient for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:24:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:31:40
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    Yes, you need a mini-USB to PS2 cable. Info from Sifo.

    Simple USB to PS2 converter works too, or should.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:36:24
    Quote from: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:15:46
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    So, stupid question time!

    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    tks!

    You can also get a ps2avr-ext if that can be more convenient for you.

    What is that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:40:39
    Does the Ducky Zero Shine come in a TKL? I could not find one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:47:47
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:40:39
    Does the Ducky Zero Shine come in a TKL? I could not find one.

    The Ducky Zero DK2087 and the Shine 2 DK9087 are TKL. There is no Ducky Zero Shine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:53:16
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:36:24
    Quote from: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:15:46
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    So, stupid question time!

    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    tks!

    You can also get a ps2avr-ext if that can be more convenient for you.

    What is that?

    It's a simple converter that converts a USB cable into a ps/2 cable without ever needing a ps/2 cable, if that makes sense. Basically, it lets you use a USB cable as a ps/2 cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:54:32
    Quote from: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:53:16
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:36:24
    Quote from: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:15:46
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    So, stupid question time!

    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    tks!

    You can also get a ps2avr-ext if that can be more convenient for you.

    What is that?

    It's a simple converter that converts a USB cable into a ps/2 cable without ever needing a ps/2 cable, if that makes sense. Basically, it lets you use a USB cable as a ps/2 cable.


    Ah, I see. I think it would be harder to get one of those than a ps2 cable XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:59:30
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:40:39
    Does the Ducky Zero Shine come in a TKL? I could not find one.

    DK2108S - Ducky Zero Shine - is only available full size.

    http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/ZERO_DK2108S.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:01:45
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:59:30
    DK2108S - Ducky Zero Shine - is only available full size.

    http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/ZERO_DK2108S.html

    Although it has backlighting it is not part of the Shine series ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:04:53
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:54:32
    Quote from: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:53:16
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:36:24
    Quote from: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:15:46
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    So, stupid question time!

    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    tks!

    You can also get a ps2avr-ext if that can be more convenient for you.

    What is that?

    It's a simple converter that converts a USB cable into a ps/2 cable without ever needing a ps/2 cable, if that makes sense. Basically, it lets you use a USB cable as a ps/2 cable.


    Ah, I see. I think it would be harder to get one of those than a ps2 cable XD

    When I got my ps2avr, it just came with one :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:19:48
    Quote from: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 20:04:53
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:54:32
    Quote from: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:53:16
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:36:24
    Quote from: RESPRiT on Mon, 17 March 2014, 19:15:46
    Quote from: lcs on Mon, 17 March 2014, 17:26:25
    So, stupid question time!

    I got my gf a A87ps2avr. I plugged it using a mini usb to usb cable and the leds worked out fine, but I can't type it. Can someone enlighten me? Do I need a miniusb to ps2 cable? How do I configure this thing?

    tks!

    You can also get a ps2avr-ext if that can be more convenient for you.

    What is that?

    It's a simple converter that converts a USB cable into a ps/2 cable without ever needing a ps/2 cable, if that makes sense. Basically, it lets you use a USB cable as a ps/2 cable.


    Ah, I see. I think it would be harder to get one of those than a ps2 cable XD

    When I got my ps2avr, it just came with one :P

    Mine didn't :'( :'(

    It's ok, got a ps2 cable :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:36:16
    Anyone know switch hole dimensions for an Alps switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:37:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:36:16
    Anyone know switch hole dimensions for an Alps switch?


    There are diagrams of Alps switches with measurements here:

    http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/deskthority-alps-keyboard-project-t4651.html

    Edit: Sorry, that was for Matias, but supposed to be the same as Alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:42:40
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:37:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:36:16
    Anyone know switch hole dimensions for an Alps switch?


    There are diagrams of Alps switches with measurements here:

    http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/deskthority-alps-keyboard-project-t4651.html

    Edit: Sorry, that was for Matias, but supposed to be the same as Alps?

    Awesome, thanks Rowdy. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:48:30
    How many GB's have there been with the cherry replicas? Just the orange ones and toxic?

    Is there a classic cherry in the works? (White/beige)

    I guess everyone is tired of those?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:50:41
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:48:30
    How many GB's have there been with the cherry replicas? Just the orange ones and toxic?

    Is there a classic cherry in the works? (White/beige)

    I guess everyone is tired of those?

    there was raindrop too
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:52:34
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:48:30
    How many GB's have there been with the cherry replicas? Just the orange ones and toxic?

    Is there a classic cherry in the works? (White/beige)

    I guess everyone is tired of those?

    I would love to get a classic Beige/White with cherry legends. I wouldn't mind it being DCS if it were PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:01:33
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:52:34
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:48:30
    How many GB's have there been with the cherry replicas? Just the orange ones and toxic?

    Is there a classic cherry in the works? (White/beige)

    I guess everyone is tired of those?

    I would love to get a classic Beige/White with cherry legends. I wouldn't mind it being DCS if it were PBT.
    So would I, hard to find.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:50:41
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 22:48:30
    How many GB's have there been with the cherry replicas? Just the orange ones and toxic?

    Is there a classic cherry in the works? (White/beige)

    I guess everyone is tired of those?

    there was raindrop too
    Oh the beautiful raindrop, didn't realize they were cherry. I've been away too long.

    EDIT** Just glanced at some pics in the raindrop GB those look like standard SP WYSE font.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:14:28
    Raindrop R2 is currently in production. It is a CtrlAlt GB. And it uses Cherry replica legends.

    Anyone wishing upon a star for a full set of double shot PBT caps can just keep right on dreaming. We have already been told by SP that the shrinkage rate problem makes it near impossible to do a full set of DS from PBT. And if they were somehow able to do it, it would be so cost prohibitive that no one could buy them.

    Best bet for classic Cherry beige is to wait for someone to run a GB for them through GMK. The reason to keep doing sets from SP is that they can do colors and legends that GMK just can't/won't. But if it's a true replica set, of existing colors that GMK has, there's no reason not to go the GMK route.

    I believe Bunnylake has said that Toxic will be the last CtrlAlt GB with SP for a while. I think he has plans to do some cool stuff with GMK. And perhaps some classic replicas are in those plans. We shall see. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:32:03
    Anyone know where to get LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:32:38
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:32:03
    Anyone know where to get LEDs?

    www.digikey.com
    www.mouser.com
    www.ebay.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:39:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:14:28
    Raindrop R2 is currently in production. It is a CtrlAlt GB. And it uses Cherry replica legends.

    Anyone wishing upon a star for a full set of double shot PBT caps can just keep right on dreaming. We have already been told by SP that the shrinkage rate problem makes it near impossible to do a full set of DS from PBT. And if they were somehow able to do it, it would be so cost prohibitive that no one could buy them.

    Best bet for classic Cherry beige is to wait for someone to run a GB for them through GMK. The reason to keep doing sets from SP is that they can do colors and legends that GMK just can't/won't. But if it's a true replica set, of existing colors that GMK has, there's no reason not to go the GMK route.

    I believe Bunnylake has said that Toxic will be the last CtrlAlt GB with SP for a while. I think he has plans to do some cool stuff with GMK. And perhaps some classic replicas are in those plans. We shall see. :)

    Thanks for the correction and info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:43:23
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:14:28


    Anyone wishing upon a star for a full set of double shot PBT caps can just keep right on dreaming. We have already been told by SP that the shrinkage rate problem makes it near impossible to do a full set of DS from PBT. And if they were somehow able to do it, it would be so cost prohibitive that no one could buy them.


    Aw that sucks. My march GH key looks and feels sweet, but I do see how shrinkage will be a major issue...stem is a bit tight
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:55:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:14:28
    Raindrop R2 is currently in production. It is a CtrlAlt GB. And it uses Cherry replica legends.

    Anyone wishing upon a star for a full set of double shot PBT caps can just keep right on dreaming. We have already been told by SP that the shrinkage rate problem makes it near impossible to do a full set of DS from PBT. And if they were somehow able to do it, it would be so cost prohibitive that no one could buy them.

    Best bet for classic Cherry beige is to wait for someone to run a GB for them through GMK. The reason to keep doing sets from SP is that they can do colors and legends that GMK just can't/won't. But if it's a true replica set, of existing colors that GMK has, there's no reason not to go the GMK route.

    I believe Bunnylake has said that Toxic will be the last CtrlAlt GB with SP for a while. I think he has plans to do some cool stuff with GMK. And perhaps some classic replicas are in those plans. We shall see. :)

    I was talking a about a classic beige/white dye-sub DCS set, but yes I can't wait for Bunny to start the GMK group buys :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 18 March 2014, 01:03:32
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:43:23
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 17 March 2014, 23:14:28


    Anyone wishing upon a star for a full set of double shot PBT caps can just keep right on dreaming. We have already been told by SP that the shrinkage rate problem makes it near impossible to do a full set of DS from PBT. And if they were somehow able to do it, it would be so cost prohibitive that no one could buy them.


    Aw that sucks. My march GH key looks and feels sweet, but I do see how shrinkage will be a major issue...stem is a bit tight


    They should call Vortex. Or send in a spy... ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:49:03
    Has anyone installed LED's in a WASD V2? Thinking about adding some flare to the board, if there is a guide or something I missed, I apologize, I only did a brief search and didn't find anything specific on this board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:53:04
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:49:03
    Has anyone installed LED's in a WASD V2? Thinking about adding some flare to the board, if there is a guide or something I missed, I apologize, I only did a brief search and didn't find anything specific on this board.

    If the PCB supports LED's already (I don't know about this), it should be as simple as soldering them in. You can find information about polarity in the OP of this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_BBB), and Photoelectric has a nice mini-review and description of various LED types (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54702.msg1225569#msg1225569).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:54:01
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:53:04
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:49:03
    Has anyone installed LED's in a WASD V2? Thinking about adding some flare to the board, if there is a guide or something I missed, I apologize, I only did a brief search and didn't find anything specific on this board.

    If the PCB supports LED's already (I don't know about this), it should be as simple as soldering them in. You can find information about polarity in the OP of this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_BBB), and Photoelectric has a nice mini-review and description of various LED types (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54702.msg1225569#msg1225569).

    Thanks Riot, I'll check that out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 18 March 2014, 15:15:09
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:53:04
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:49:03
    Has anyone installed LED's in a WASD V2? Thinking about adding some flare to the board, if there is a guide or something I missed, I apologize, I only did a brief search and didn't find anything specific on this board.

    If the PCB supports LED's already (I don't know about this), it should be as simple as soldering them in. You can find information about polarity in the OP of this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_BBB), and Photoelectric has a nice mini-review and description of various LED types (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54702.msg1225569#msg1225569).

    AFAIK the WASD V2 doesn't have LED support on the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 18 March 2014, 16:09:59
    What kro does the minila air have as its wireless?

    also what 75% metal cases have been made?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 March 2014, 19:57:04
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 18 March 2014, 16:09:59
    1) What kro does the minila air have as its wireless?

    2) also what 75% metal cases have been made?

    1) Gonna guess 6KRO on the Minila Air. But that's a wild guess.

    2) There's a metal case for the Race. Forgot who made it. And I have a custom case for my Epsilon that jdcarpe designed. That's all I'm aware of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Wed, 19 March 2014, 06:19:53
    What do you think, will the Novatouch be as good as a Realforce? Not sure if I can wait till June, although I just bought a new Filco MJ2 Ninja  with Reds  :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:13:04
    Quote from: hordak on Wed, 19 March 2014, 06:19:53
    What do you think, will the Novatouch be as good as a Realforce? Not sure if I can wait till June, although I just bought a new Filco MJ2 Ninja  with Reds  :-\

    That is not a question suited for this thread as you ask for opinions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:21:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:13:04
    Quote from: hordak on Wed, 19 March 2014, 06:19:53
    What do you think, will the Novatouch be as good as a Realforce? Not sure if I can wait till June, although I just bought a new Filco MJ2 Ninja  with Reds  :-\

    That is not a question suited for this thread as you ask for opinions.

    Also it's impossible to judge unless someone has personal experience with a Novatouch. Most of the community has only seen videos or read news articles about it. I don't think anyone has one yet. I believe only the CM Storm employees (Carter, Bran, Rajiv) and I think wetto have tried it or currently type on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:30:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:21:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:13:04
    Quote from: hordak on Wed, 19 March 2014, 06:19:53
    What do you think, will the Novatouch be as good as a Realforce? Not sure if I can wait till June, although I just bought a new Filco MJ2 Ninja  with Reds  :-\

    That is not a question suited for this thread as you ask for opinions.

    Also it's impossible to judge unless someone has personal experience with a Novatouch. Most of the community has only seen videos or read news articles about it. I don't think anyone has one yet. I believe only the CM Storm employees (Carter, Bran, Rajiv) and I think wetto have tried it or currently type on it.
    Matt3o has one, but NDA prevents him from saying anything. But yeah, nobody can saying anything right now anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:37:24
    Ok, my bad, thanks anyways.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:39:57
    Quick question:

    When I finally start building my 60% board, I'm going to be harvesting the switches from my Ducky 1087 (time to retire that old board) and I was wondering if, while I'm already harvesting parts from it, it'd be an option to modify the plate to be 60% compatible. I know it'd probably be easier to just buy a 60% plate, but I make minimum wage and I'm cheap so I want to not spend the money unless absolutely necessary.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:41:51
    Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:39:57
    When I finally start building my 60% board, I'm going to be harvesting the switches from my Ducky 1087 (time to retire that old board) and I was wondering if, while I'm already harvesting parts from it, it'd be an option to modify the plate to be 60% compatible. I know it'd probably be easier to just buy a 60% plate, but I make minimum wage and I'm cheap so I want to not spend the money unless absolutely necessary.

    Sure, if you cut it down to the right size and drill some holes in it it should work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:43:17
    Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:39:57
    I was wondering if it'd be an option to modify the plate to be 60% compatible.

    Sure, a plate is just a bit of metal. As long as you take good measurements, have a Dremel/metal saw, sandpaper, and patience, there shouldn't be a reason why you can't cut the plate down to 60% size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:47:59
    Thanks, I guess I'll give it a shot then. Worst case scenario, I screw it up and end up buying a plate anyways.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:49:17
    Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:47:59
    Thanks, I guess I'll give it a shot then. Worst case scenario, I screw it up and end up buying a plate anyways.

    It shouldn't be too hard. Just need to cut off the function row area and the navpad/arrows. Just remember to measure like 5 times and take off metal slowly. Like cut off a little bit at a time. You can always take more off, it's harder to add material back on. Good luck and post your results!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:54:40
    Now I'm just trying to think about which tools I have access to and should use...

    Die grinder w/ a cut-off wheel for the initial cuts, then lots and lots of sanding to get as close to a factory edge as possible. Drill press for adding any holes that might be needed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:59:27
    Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:54:40
    Now I'm just trying to think about which tools I have access to and should use...

    Die grinder w/ a cut-off wheel for the initial cuts, then lots and lots of sanding to get as close to a factory edge as possible. Drill press for adding any holes that might be needed.

    Yup, sounds about right. Dremel with a drill bit would work in place of a drill press as well. Don't forget a tape measure or calipers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:59:55
    Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:54:40
    Now I'm just trying to think about which tools I have access to and should use...

    Die grinder w/ a cut-off wheel for the initial cuts, then lots and lots of sanding to get as close to a factory edge as possible. Drill press for adding any holes that might be needed.

    Start with the die grinder but leave a buffer, use a file to get to the last few millimeters and then use the sandpaper (depending on what files you have you can also do the last touches with them instead of sandpaper). That's basically how I learned it at ZF.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 March 2014, 08:02:22
    Ha I forgot about a file. Silly me. Great pro-tips BlueBär :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 08:05:12
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:59:55
    Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 07:54:40
    Now I'm just trying to think about which tools I have access to and should use...

    Die grinder w/ a cut-off wheel for the initial cuts, then lots and lots of sanding to get as close to a factory edge as possible. Drill press for adding any holes that might be needed.

    Start with the die grinder but leave a buffer, use a file to get to the last few millimeters and then use the sandpaper (depending on what files you have you can also do the last touches with them instead of sandpaper). That's basically how I learned it at ZF.

    Yeah, was planning on leaving a spare few mm for the sanding process. The more I think about this, the easier it's sounding...

    Thanks for the tips guys, will probably start working on this over the weekend. Will post before & after pics for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 08:09:30
    Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 08:05:12
    Yeah, was planning on leaving a spare few mm for the sanding process. The more I think about this, the easier it's sounding...

    Thanks for the tips guys, will probably start working on this over the weekend. Will post before & after pics for sure.

    Really the key to getting a precise handmade piece of metal is measuring over and over again :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 08:12:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 08:09:30
    Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 08:05:12
    Yeah, was planning on leaving a spare few mm for the sanding process. The more I think about this, the easier it's sounding...

    Thanks for the tips guys, will probably start working on this over the weekend. Will post before & after pics for sure.

    Really the key to getting a precise handmade piece of metal is measuring over and over again :thumb:

    Measure twice, three times, until my tape measure breaks, cut once.

    Or so the saying goes...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 19 March 2014, 08:17:16
    Another good tip for getting good lines when working with thinner metal like this is to make very sure you are marking your lines where you want to finish.  Not where you want to make your initial cut.  Also, make your lines as fine as you can.  IE, use a scribe instead of a sharpie.  Even the ultra fine tip sharpies are to thick.  Spend the couple dollars and get a scribe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:34:16
    CLiB, please see this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33346.0) for inspiration. :D


    I miss Lethal Squirrel...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:39:26
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:34:16
    CLiB, please see this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33346.0) for inspiration. :D


    I miss Lethal Squirrel...

    i am not clib but..

    that is simply awesome, thanks for the share jd :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:42:58
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:39:26
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:34:16
    CLiB, please see this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33346.0) for inspiration. :D


    I miss Lethal Squirrel...

    i am not clib but..

    that is simply awesome, thanks for the share jd :thumb:

    It's ok Ray, you can speak on my behalf. :D

    And yes, nice share indeed jd. Gives me a bit more confidence going through with this knowing it has already been done before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Wed, 19 March 2014, 10:41:30
    Am I right to assume that there is no silent all-45g or all-55g version of the Realforce TKL 87UB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 10:55:48
    Quote from: hordak on Wed, 19 March 2014, 10:41:30
    Am I right to assume that there is no silent all-45g or all-55g version of the Realforce TKL 87UB?

    I'm more of an MX guy but I assume the B stands for "black"?
    All 45g (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0)
    All 55g (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se1800)

    Edit: nevermind, I overread the silent. It doesn't look like there is, but you can do some mods to make it silent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Wed, 19 March 2014, 11:00:45
    Yes, I meant the black one. So no silent it seems, a shame. Another question though: Do these loose case issues (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42978.0) still exist when you buy a 87U today? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:30:28
    There are some threads that I am not watching, nor have a notification activated but I have getting them in the "Show new replies to your posts." Each time I have to manually mark them as readed. How I can delete their notifications?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:31:34
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:30:28
    There are some threads that I am not watching, nor have a notification activated but I have getting them in the "Show new replies to your posts." Each time I have to manually mark them as readed. How I can delete their notifications?

    Not sure this is the right thread for your question but I don't think you can get rid of the notifications.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:31:55
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:30:28
    There are some threads that I am not watching, nor have a notification activated but I have getting them in the "Show new replies to your posts." Each time I have to manually mark them as readed. How I can delete their notifications?

    Did you post in those threads?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:32:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:31:55
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:30:28
    There are some threads that I am not watching, nor have a notification activated but I have getting them in the "Show new replies to your posts." Each time I have to manually mark them as readed. How I can delete their notifications?

    Did you post in those threads?


    I think I did.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:33:17
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:32:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:31:55
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:30:28
    There are some threads that I am not watching, nor have a notification activated but I have getting them in the "Show new replies to your posts." Each time I have to manually mark them as readed. How I can delete their notifications?

    Did you post in those threads?


    I think I did.

    Well that is why they show up there,  you posted in it therefore it is a 'new reply to your post'.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:34:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:33:17
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:32:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:31:55
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:30:28
    There are some threads that I am not watching, nor have a notification activated but I have getting them in the "Show new replies to your posts." Each time I have to manually mark them as readed. How I can delete their notifications?

    Did you post in those threads?


    I think I did.

    Well that is why they show up there,  you posted in it therefore it is a 'new reply to your post'.


    yeah, it makes sense, but I do not want them to show up in my list anymore  :-[ . How I could do that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:37:39
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:34:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:33:17
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:32:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:31:55
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:30:28
    There are some threads that I am not watching, nor have a notification activated but I have getting them in the "Show new replies to your posts." Each time I have to manually mark them as readed. How I can delete their notifications?

    Did you post in those threads?


    I think I did.

    Well that is why they show up there,  you posted in it therefore it is a 'new reply to your post'.


    yeah, it makes sense, but I do not want them to show up in my list anymore  :-[ . How I could do that?


    I hope the simple answer would not be: "you can't"  :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:38:19
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:37:39
    I hope the simple answer would not be: "you can't"  :-X

    I'm pretty sure that is the answer unfortunately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:41:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:38:19
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:37:39
    I hope the simple answer would not be: "you can't"  :-X

    I'm pretty sure that is the answer unfortunately.


    OM, well, I hate I knew it, since the beginning.  >:D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:50:41
    Instead of "Unread" use "Watched".  When you reply to a thread, you automatically place it on your "watched" list.  You can "unwatch" each thread you don't want to see new replies from, when you go to that thread and click "unwatch" at the top right.  This thread won't show up on your Watched list anymore. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:54:25
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:50:41
    Instead of "Unread" use "Watched".  When you reply to a thread, you automatically place it on your "watched" list.  You can "unwatch" each thread you don't want to see new replies from, when you go to that thread and click "unwatch" at the top right.  This thread won't show up on your Watched list anymore.


    I will give it a try. TY,  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1pq on Wed, 19 March 2014, 13:52:13
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 19 March 2014, 12:50:41
    Instead of "Unread" use "Watched".  When you reply to a thread, you automatically place it on your "watched" list.  You can "unwatch" each thread you don't want to see new replies from, when you go to that thread and click "unwatch" at the top right.  This thread won't show up on your Watched list anymore.

    +1. This is how I do it, and it works very well for me. Never touched "unread" for months.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:20:39
    http://finncdn.no/mmo/2014/2/vertical-5/17/4/451/326/24_1387893644.jpg

    What switch/keyboard is this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:24:41
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:20:39
    http://finncdn.no/mmo/2014/2/vertical-5/17/4/451/326/24_1387893644.jpg

    What switch/keyboard is this?

    Looks like a dome with slider.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:37:27
    Does anyone know where I can acquire PCB mounted stabilizers with a 7x spacebar at a reasonable price?

    Thank you :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:41:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:37:27
    Does anyone know where I can acquire PCB mounted stabilizers with a 7x spacebar at a reasonable price?

    Thank you :).

    This (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html#/spacebar_length-7_00x_unit_standard_winkeyless_spacebar) seems to be your only option right now. They appear to be out of stock everywhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:04:52
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:41:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:37:27
    Does anyone know where I can acquire PCB mounted stabilizers with a 7x spacebar at a reasonable price?

    Thank you :).

    This (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html#/spacebar_length-7_00x_unit_standard_winkeyless_spacebar) seems to be your only option right now. They appear to be out of stock everywhere.

    Yeah...shipping to Canada is approx $23 D:.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:08:28
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:04:52
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:41:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:37:27
    Does anyone know where I can acquire PCB mounted stabilizers with a 7x spacebar at a reasonable price?

    Thank you :).

    This (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html#/spacebar_length-7_00x_unit_standard_winkeyless_spacebar) seems to be your only option right now. They appear to be out of stock everywhere.

    Yeah...shipping to Canada is approx $23 D:.

    Then I guess you don't want them that bad. :)) :)) :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:16:15
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:08:28
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:04:52
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:41:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:37:27
    Does anyone know where I can acquire PCB mounted stabilizers with a 7x spacebar at a reasonable price?

    Thank you :).

    This (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html#/spacebar_length-7_00x_unit_standard_winkeyless_spacebar) seems to be your only option right now. They appear to be out of stock everywhere.

    Yeah...shipping to Canada is approx $23 D:.

    Then I guess you don't want them that bad. :)) :)) :))

    Yeah...not that bad  :p. It's for my summer project...so I'll wait :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:20:53
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:41:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:37:27
    Does anyone know where I can acquire PCB mounted stabilizers with a 7x spacebar at a reasonable price?

    Thank you :).

    This (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html#/spacebar_length-7_00x_unit_standard_winkeyless_spacebar) seems to be your only option right now. They appear to be out of stock everywhere.

    Imsto also has them available (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55), but the price wouldn't be very different after shipping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 17:15:12
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 19 March 2014, 15:20:53
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:41:53
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 19 March 2014, 14:37:27
    Does anyone know where I can acquire PCB mounted stabilizers with a 7x spacebar at a reasonable price?

    Thank you :).

    This (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html#/spacebar_length-7_00x_unit_standard_winkeyless_spacebar) seems to be your only option right now. They appear to be out of stock everywhere.

    Imsto also has them available (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55), but the price wouldn't be very different after shipping.

    Yeah...well, thanks to both of you for the suggestions.

    Cheers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:19:21
    Stock QFR caps are laser engraved and filled, correct? Not etched?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:20:13
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:19:21
    Stock QFR caps are laser engraved and filled, correct? Not etched?

    I thought they were pad printed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:21:44
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:19:21
    Stock QFR caps are laser engraved and filled, correct? Not etched?

    "Laser-marked keycaps"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:43:34
    The legends are definitely raised, though as epzy noted, Cooler Master is ambiguous about the actual method. It's laser something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 06:35:44
    What alu TKL cases are there?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:01:07
    Quote from: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 06:35:44
    What alu TKL cases are there?

    Including or excluding Korean customs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:09:27
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:01:07
    Quote from: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 06:35:44
    What alu TKL cases are there?
    Including or excluding Korean customs?
    I'm guessing the Korean Customs will skyrocket that number. :P

    Mostly looking for models that include win-keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:25:24
    Quote from: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:09:27
    I'm guessing the Korean Customs will skyrocket that number. :P

    Mostly looking for models that include win-keys.

    MKC made one, there also is the Skeldon TKL and the Vortex case that is available on mechanicalkeyboards.com.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:28:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:01:07
    Quote from: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 06:35:44
    What alu TKL cases are there?

    Including or excluding Korean customs?

    Are there any mass produced TKL aluminum cases besides for the Vortex cases? I can't think of any. Some Korean customs that have aluminum TKL cases include:

    - KMAC series
    - LZ-GH
    - LZ-S
    - LZ-F
    - Orion TKL

    BlueBär's post also has some good suggestions.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:19:21
    Stock QFR caps are laser engraved and filled, correct? Not etched?

    I think you're right.

    Edit: The DT wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cooler_Master_QuickFire_Rapid) says that the caps are laser etched and infilled ABS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:38:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:28:31
    Are there any mass produced TKL aluminum cases besides for the Vortex cases? I can't think of any.

    I don't think so either.

    Question: Can somebody give me some measurements of Costar stabilizer inserts?

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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:08:58
    Do all cherry doubleshots (white on black) with 1.25 mods have a messed up bottom row? (off center stems) Or is this only when you harvest from a G81 (MY)

    Would the mods from a G80 be compatible with a filco?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:12:47
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:08:58
    Do all cherry doubleshots (white on black) with 1.25 mods have a messed up bottom row? (off center stems)
    Or is this only when you harvest from a G81 (MY)
    Would the mods from a G80 be compatible with a filco?

    No
    Yes
    Yes, if the mods have the correct size
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:15:45
    Quote from: lightsout714 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:08:58
    Would the mods from a G80 be compatible with a filco?

    I think an MY3000 and G80-3000 would work for you other than the Caps Lock which has an off centered stem placement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:18:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:15:45
    I think an MY3000 and G80-3000 would work for you other than the Caps Lock which has an off centered stem placement.

    Nope, MY3000/G81-3000 does have off center stems. I have one sitting right behind me and just double checked.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:20:52
    Ok thanks guys. Appreciate it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:40:55
    Just a heads up, please check out this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1227564#msg1227564) for up to date information on the GH60 buy in case you haven't been following the GH60 thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.new;topicseen#new). Doing my best to post the relevant updates in that post. A link can also be found in the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 10:59:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:28:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:01:07
    Quote from: JaccoW on Thu, 20 March 2014, 06:35:44
    What alu TKL cases are there?
    Including or excluding Korean customs?
    Are there any mass produced TKL aluminum cases besides for the Vortex cases? I can't think of any. Some Korean customs that have aluminum TKL cases include:

    - KMAC series
    - LZ-GH
    - LZ-S
    - LZ-F
    - Orion TKL

    BlueBär's post also has some good suggestions.
    Thanks, both of you. Guess I will have to pony up some cash for a custom then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:11:36
    Are there any keyboards with cutouts for two AA batteries?

    I plan to make a wireless mech with my ****ty logitech wave RD controller that I spent $60 on......only problem is room for the new (****ty 2kro) controller and the two AA batteries it uses
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:23:45
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:11:36
    Are there any keyboards with cutouts for two AA batteries?

    I plan to make a wireless mech with my ****ty logitech wave RD controller that I spent $60 on......only problem is room for the new (****ty 2kro) controller and the two AA batteries it uses

    I've never heard of a mechanical keyboard with a cutout especially made for batteries. Both in the past or coming up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:29:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:23:45
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:11:36
    Are there any keyboards with cutouts for two AA batteries?

    I plan to make a wireless mech with my ****ty logitech wave RD controller that I spent $60 on......only problem is room for the new (****ty 2kro) controller and the two AA batteries it uses

    I've never heard of a mechanical keyboard with a cutout especially made for batteries. Both in the past or coming up.

    Guess I'll do an open air direct solder configuration for this project then
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:26:51
    Anyone know the dimensions between the bottom of the stem and the bottom half of the housing on an MX switch?  Looking for these dimensions at rest, actuation, and bottom.  I was going to email Cherry but their website link just opens your installed email client, which I don't have.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:40:27
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:26:51
    I was going to email Cherry but their website link just opens your installed email client, which I don't have.
    They are using a "mailto:" type link. Just right click and copy email address, and paste in your web-based mail program or whatever you use to get your email.

    Quote from: lightsout714 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:08:58
    Would the mods from a G80 be compatible with a filco?

    All the modifiers on a G80-8113 or G80-8200 will work on a filco (the only noncompatible key is the spacebar and sometimes the enter key / pipe key) Keep in mind, though, that the windows keys and menu key are not doubleshot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:43:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:26:51
    Anyone know the dimensions between the bottom of the stem and the bottom half of the housing on an MX switch?  Looking for these dimensions at rest, actuation, and bottom.  I was going to email Cherry but their website link just opens your installed email client, which I don't have.

    The bottom of the stem hits the bottom of the housing iirc. Total travel is 4mm and actuation is around 2mm, exact actuation point depends on the switch type.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:51:24
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:11:36
    Are there any keyboards with cutouts for two AA batteries?

    I plan to make a wireless mech with my ****ty logitech wave RD controller that I spent $60 on......only problem is room for the new (****ty 2kro) controller and the two AA batteries it uses

    http://www.wireless-computing.com/products/mechanical-keyboard/

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=260
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:59:06
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:51:24
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:11:36
    Are there any keyboards with cutouts for two AA batteries?

    I plan to make a wireless mech with my ****ty logitech wave RD controller that I spent $60 on......only problem is room for the new (****ty 2kro) controller and the two AA batteries it uses

    http://www.wireless-computing.com/products/mechanical-keyboard/

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=260

    Ugh full size. That almost negates a major purpose of wireless: to be portable
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:01:07
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:59:06
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:51:24
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:11:36
    Are there any keyboards with cutouts for two AA batteries?

    I plan to make a wireless mech with my ****ty logitech wave RD controller that I spent $60 on......only problem is room for the new (****ty 2kro) controller and the two AA batteries it uses

    http://www.wireless-computing.com/products/mechanical-keyboard/ (http://www.wireless-computing.com/products/mechanical-keyboard/)

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=260 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=260)

    Ugh full size. That almost negates a major purpose of wireless: to be portable

    You asked for keyboards with cutouts for AA :p

    BUT there was one or two of the older models a plum and maybe a noppo I think the plum may have used AA's and one of the noppo models wasn't wireless but had a door for a battery with nothing inside.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:08:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:01:07
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:59:06
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:51:24
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:11:36
    Are there any keyboards with cutouts for two AA batteries?

    I plan to make a wireless mech with my ****ty logitech wave RD controller that I spent $60 on......only problem is room for the new (****ty 2kro) controller and the two AA batteries it uses

    http://www.wireless-computing.com/products/mechanical-keyboard/ (http://www.wireless-computing.com/products/mechanical-keyboard/)

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=260 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=260)

    Ugh full size. That almost negates a major purpose of wireless: to be portable

    You asked for keyboards with cutouts for AA :p

    BUT there was one or two of the older models a plum and maybe a noppo I think the plum may have used AA's and one of the noppo models wasn't wireless but had a door for a battery with nothing inside.

    Thanks for the help! I'll check those out and see if I can just get the case. Otherwise an open air direct solder setup is what I'll have to stick with :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:47:03
    Whats a guy gotta do to get a nice set of white/beige doubleshots for a filco/qfr?

    Anyone know what keyboards have all the right keys (besides caps)

    Not having much luck in the classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:53:17
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:43:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:26:51
    Anyone know the dimensions between the bottom of the stem and the bottom half of the housing on an MX switch?  Looking for these dimensions at rest, actuation, and bottom.  I was going to email Cherry but their website link just opens your installed email client, which I don't have.

    The bottom of the stem hits the bottom of the housing iirc. Total travel is 4mm and actuation is around 2mm, exact actuation point depends on the switch type.

    Thanks BlueBar.  I was thinking for some reason that the stem bottomed out on something other than the bottom of the housing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:55:27

    Quote from: lightsout714 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:47:03
    Whats a guy gotta do to get a nice set of white/beige doubleshots for a filco/qfr?

    Anyone know what keyboards have all the right keys (besides caps)

    Not having much luck in the classifieds.

    Keep looking :). If you want something nice, look for Originative's GMK white/beige set. It should have the kits you need for a Filco/QFR. It'll run you about $100 and you'll have to be quick on the draw, but you'll love 'em.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:23:06
    What's the name of that keyboard click sound emulation program that some people use with linear switches for audible feedback?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:27:44
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:23:06
    What's the name of that keyboard click sound emulation program that some people use with linear switches for audible feedback?

    This?

    http://www.colorpilot.com/soundpilot.html

    Or: https://www.grc.com/freeware/clickey.htm

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:43:18
    Quote from: epzy on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:27:44
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:23:06
    What's the name of that keyboard click sound emulation program that some people use with linear switches for audible feedback?

    This?

    http://www.colorpilot.com/soundpilot.html

    Or: https://www.grc.com/freeware/clickey.htm

    Thanks, mate.  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:55:15
    I like Reds and Browns, dislike the Blacks and Blues. Should I go with a 45 or 55 uniform RF 87?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:57:26
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:55:15
    I like Reds and Browns, dislike the Blacks and Blues. Should I go with a 45 or 55 uniform RF 87?

    There's really no comparison between mx and topre. Some may claim so, but rubber is much different from plastic
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:06:01
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:55:15
    I like Reds and Browns, dislike the Blacks and Blues. Should I go with a 45 or 55 uniform RF 87?

    Seems to be appropriate, since you like the 45g actuation MX switches. Topre may be a bit heavier; but smoother. There's no way to tell if you would like 55g or 45g better though, sorry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:14:05
    What size of LEDs would one use for backlighting?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:15:19
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:14:05
    What size of LEDs would one use for backlighting?

    2x3x4mm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:17:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:01:07
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:59:06
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:51:24
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 20 March 2014, 17:11:36
    Are there any keyboards with cutouts for two AA batteries?

    I plan to make a wireless mech with my ****ty logitech wave RD controller that I spent $60 on......only problem is room for the new (****ty 2kro) controller and the two AA batteries it uses

    http://www.wireless-computing.com/products/mechanical-keyboard/ (http://www.wireless-computing.com/products/mechanical-keyboard/)

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=260 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=260)

    Ugh full size. That almost negates a major purpose of wireless: to be portable

    You asked for keyboards with cutouts for AA :p

    BUT there was one or two of the older models a plum and maybe a noppo I think the plum may have used AA's and one of the noppo models wasn't wireless but had a door for a battery with nothing inside.

    Filco Minila Air might work for you as well. I didn't realize you were asking for keyboard that used AA batteries.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:17:14
    Quote from: epzy on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:15:19
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:14:05
    What size of LEDs would one use for backlighting?

    2x3x4mm
    Much appreciated
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:23:07
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:55:15
    I like Reds and Browns, dislike the Blacks and Blues. Should I go with a 45 or 55 uniform RF 87?

    I'm not sure I see the correlation since I don't think that it's as easy as saying "Oh I like light switches so I'll like light MX and light Topre". I think the different switch types (Alps, Topre, MX, Buckling Spring, etc) are unique and it's going to be hard to judge by comparing from one type to another. I would suggest you try both to judge it. Plus, none of us know exactly what you're looking for in a switch. It's personal preference more than anything.

    Quote from: riotonthebay on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:55:27

    Quote from: lightsout714 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:47:03
    Whats a guy gotta do to get a nice set of white/beige doubleshots for a filco/qfr?

    Anyone know what keyboards have all the right keys (besides caps)

    Not having much luck in the classifieds.

    Keep looking :). If you want something nice, look for Originative's GMK white/beige set. It should have the kits you need for a Filco/QFR. It'll run you about $100 and you'll have to be quick on the draw, but you'll love 'em.

    ^This. Be patient and keep looking. Dorkvader and I suggested some Cherry boards that would fit your needs. Hunt eBay and the classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:06:19
    whar name swith is this? :)
    http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/kudaloncat/media/IMG-20140321-WA0019_zps292e02d0.jpg.html (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/kudaloncat/media/IMG-20140321-WA0019_zps292e02d0.jpg.html)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:18:27
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:06:19
    whar name swith is this? :)
    http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/kudaloncat/media/IMG-20140321-WA0019_zps292e02d0.jpg.html (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/kudaloncat/media/IMG-20140321-WA0019_zps292e02d0.jpg.html)

    I guess a Futaba switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:23:08
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:06:19
    whar name swith is this? :)
    http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/kudaloncat/media/IMG-20140321-WA0019_zps292e02d0.jpg.html (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/kudaloncat/media/IMG-20140321-WA0019_zps292e02d0.jpg.html)

    BTC dome with slider or BTC foam and foil.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:25:42
    Comparing the pics from the BTC switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/BTC_dome_with_slider) to the Futabas (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Futaba_clicky_switch), I also change my guess to BTC  ;)

    (BlueBär so smart)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:27:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:25:42
    (BlueBär so smart)

    Had a good teacher :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:29:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:25:42
    Comparing the pics from the BTC switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/BTC_dome_with_slider) to the Futabas (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Futaba_clicky_switch), I also change my guess to BTC  ;)

    (BlueBär so smart)

    Yup, it definitely is BTC.  I scored one of those boards cheap a long time ago for the caps.  They feel like disappointment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:30:04
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:29:15
    They feel like disappointment.

    LOL. That made me laugh for no reason. That's how I'm describing switches I don't like from now on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lcs on Fri, 21 March 2014, 09:31:17
    CPTBadAss feels like disappointment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 21 March 2014, 14:38:33
    Is there any place with 62g springs in stock right now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 14:39:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 21 March 2014, 14:38:33
    Is there any place with 62g springs in stock right now?

    Originative has them but I'm not sure if those orders are being fulfilled right now. Other than that...in stock *right now*? I can't think of anyone...maybe GON's site has some? Or imsto? Not 100% on their stocks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Fri, 21 March 2014, 14:40:30
    There is a GB happening.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 21 March 2014, 14:56:14
    Thanks guys. Looks like no springs on Imsto or Gon's sites, and Originative is sold out. Placed an order in the GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:37:01
    Is there/how easy is it to get 7x Plate mounted stabs, preferably cherry but also costar can work
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:38:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:37:01
    Is there/how easy is it to get 7x Plate mounted stabs, preferably cherry but also costar can work

    I think the only option is to order from GONKeyboardWorks right now. Not sure where else you can get 7X wires easily.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:40:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:38:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:37:01
    Is there/how easy is it to get 7x Plate mounted stabs, preferably cherry but also costar can work

    I think the only option is to order from GONKeyboardWorks right now. Not sure where else you can get 7X wires easily.

    Can PCB mount wire work with plate mount? If so I'll take apart my 11800 for scraps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:44:28
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:40:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:38:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:37:01
    Is there/how easy is it to get 7x Plate mounted stabs, preferably cherry but also costar can work

    I think the only option is to order from GONKeyboardWorks right now. Not sure where else you can get 7X wires easily.

    Can PCB mount wire work with plate mount? If so I'll take apart my 11800 for scraps

    Yeah it's just the mounting bits and inserts that are different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:51:00
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:37:01
    Is there/how easy is it to get 7x Plate mounted stabs, preferably cherry but also costar can work

    At the moment, you can only get them (Cherry) from GON, unless you want to bend the wires yourself.

    7x for Costar don't exist, except for a few that Litster bent for the original Phantom GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:18:47
    Two questions...

    1. Currently have a CM Storm QFR. I like it, but think it sits a bit too high or is a bit thick. Any other options for a thinner or lower profile TKL board?

    2. What type of o-ring/dampner does the Logitech G710+ use? The reason I ask is because I tested it out and liked the feel and wanted to try to replicate it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:26:34
    Quote from: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:18:47
    1. Currently have a CM Storm QFR. I like it, but think it sits a bit too high or is a bit thick. Any other options for a thinner or lower profile TKL board?
    2. What type of o-ring/dampner does the Logitech G710+ use? The reason I ask is because I tested it out and liked the feel and wanted to try to replicate it.

    1. You can get a bit lower profile keycaps but mechanical keyboards are generally thicker as the switches need some space. A wrist rest mightm ake things more comfortable too.
    2. You will probably not find the exact same O-rings, but WASD Keyboards and iirc feng or imsto offer some.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:29:55
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:26:34
    Quote from: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:18:47
    1. Currently have a CM Storm QFR. I like it, but think it sits a bit too high or is a bit thick. Any other options for a thinner or lower profile TKL board?
    2. What type of o-ring/dampner does the Logitech G710+ use? The reason I ask is because I tested it out and liked the feel and wanted to try to replicate it.

    1. You can get a bit lower profile keycaps but mechanical keyboards are generally thicker as the switches need some space. A wrist rest mightm ake things more comfortable too.
    2. You will probably not find the exact same O-rings, but WASD Keyboards and iirc feng or imsto offer some.

    1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?

    2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:38:22
    Quote from: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:29:55
    1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?
    2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?

    1. I think the difference would be minimal, maybe someone who has one can measure it for you.
    2. It uses 1mm O-rings, but 2mm should be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:50:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:38:22
    Quote from: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:29:55
    1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?
    2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?

    1. I think the difference would be minimal, maybe someone who has one can measure it for you.
    2. It uses 1mm O-rings, but 2mm should be fine.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:56:47
    Why are alps harder to remove than MX?

    Also is there a guide on taking apart alpsulators?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:02:14
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:56:47
    Why are alps harder to remove than MX?

    Also is there a guide on taking apart alpsulators?

    I think the reason is because the retention mechanism is completely different between alps and MX.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:02:38
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:56:47
    1. Why are alps harder to remove than MX?
    2. Also is there a guide on taking apart alpsulators?

    1. Because they are not mounted the same way :rolleyes: The connection between keycap and switch stem is probably tighter.
    2. I don't think there is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:40:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:38:22
    Quote from: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:29:55
    1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?
    2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?

    1. I think the difference would be minimal, maybe someone who has one can measure it for you.
    2. It uses 1mm O-rings, but 2mm should be fine.

    I know it's not exactly the same two keyboards, but I have QFR and Ducky Shine Yellow Edition, which is probably close to the Zero.

    The QFR is about 1mm higher at the front of the case, but it has thicker rubber feet underneath.  if you removed those and sat it directly on the desk, it would probably be 1 to 2 mm lower than the Ducky.

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:56:50
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:40:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:38:22
    Quote from: jedolley on Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:29:55
    1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?
    2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?

    1. I think the difference would be minimal, maybe someone who has one can measure it for you.
    2. It uses 1mm O-rings, but 2mm should be fine.

    I know it's not exactly the same two keyboards, but I have QFR and Ducky Shine Yellow Edition, which is probably close to the Zero.

    The QFR is about 1mm higher at the front of the case, but it has thicker rubber feet underneath.  if you removed those and sat it directly on the desk, it would probably be 1 to 2 mm lower than the Ducky.

    (Attachment Link)

    Thanks! The comparison really helps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 March 2014, 20:16:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:56:47
    Also is there a guide on taking apart alpsulators?

    I used this video kmiller8 made to help me understand how to take apart my Alpsulator:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:26:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:23:07
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 20 March 2014, 21:55:15
    I like Reds and Browns, dislike the Blacks and Blues. Should I go with a 45 or 55 uniform RF 87?

    I'm not sure I see the correlation since I don't think that it's as easy as saying "Oh I like light switches so I'll like light MX and light Topre". I think the different switch types (Alps, Topre, MX, Buckling Spring, etc) are unique and it's going to be hard to judge by comparing from one type to another. I would suggest you try both to judge it. Plus, none of us know exactly what you're looking for in a switch. It's personal preference more than anything.

    Quote from: riotonthebay on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:55:27

    Quote from: lightsout714 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:47:03
    Whats a guy gotta do to get a nice set of white/beige doubleshots for a filco/qfr?

    Anyone know what keyboards have all the right keys (besides caps)

    Not having much luck in the classifieds.

    Keep looking :). If you want something nice, look for Originative's GMK white/beige set. It should have the kits you need for a Filco/QFR. It'll run you about $100 and you'll have to be quick on the draw, but you'll love 'em.
    I would pay $100 for a GMK set in a quick minute. But you gotta know someone for them to give them up. Or get super lucky lol cause they go fast.
    ^This. Be patient and keep looking. Dorkvader and I suggested some Cherry boards that would fit your needs. Hunt eBay and the classifieds.
    I have been stalking the classifieds for a week. Patience is not my thing when it comes to buying I guess. Need some caps but feeling like I might just get what I can find.

    Had an offer for a brand new cherry set which was awesome but they are all white, no beige mods. And all the F keys were windowed. Thought about buying them for trade bait but not sure how wanted those are. Probably cool for a Kmac with LED's across the top.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:35:18
    What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:36:12
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:35:18
    What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester

    Why can't you use a hacksaw...If you can cut steel pipe with a hacksaw I think you can get through a PCB...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:39:19
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:35:18
    What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester
    http://gearsofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Chainsaw_Bayonet
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:43:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:36:12
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:35:18
    What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester

    Why can't you use a hacksaw...If you can cut steel pipe with a hacksaw I think you can get through a PCB...

    I think its because I found a random rusty hacksaw that couldn't do ****....I'll go find a newer one and use that :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:48:34
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:43:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:36:12
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:35:18
    What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester

    Why can't you use a hacksaw...If you can cut steel pipe with a hacksaw I think you can get through a PCB...

    I think its because I found a random rusty hacksaw that couldn't do ****....I'll go find a newer one and use that :))

    I just karate chop them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:37:18
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:48:34
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:43:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:36:12
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:35:18
    What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester

    Why can't you use a hacksaw...If you can cut steel pipe with a hacksaw I think you can get through a PCB...

    I think its because I found a random rusty hacksaw that couldn't do ****....I'll go find a newer one and use that :))

    I just karate chop them

    Or you can grab a gold plated hacksaw.  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:42:54
    Gold plated?

    Solid gold blade son.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:59:04
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:42:54
    Gold plated?

    Solid gold blade son.

    Bro. Your solid gold blade won't even cut ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Doesntknowwhattosay on Sun, 23 March 2014, 07:08:16
    When I'm looking for old g81s on ebay... L means laser, H doubleshot and S dyesub, am I right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 07:43:08
    Quote from: Doesntknowwhattosay on Sun, 23 March 2014, 07:08:16
    When I'm looking for old g81s on ebay... L means laser, H doubleshot and S dyesub, am I right?

    Correct, here's more info: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:17:15
    This is a stupid question that I should know the answer to.

    Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:30:47
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:17:15
    This is a stupid question that I should know the answer to.

    Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

    I just checked a teensy and it is a Mini, so I am assuming that is the most common keyboard connector.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:37:58
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:17:15
    Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

    Apart from the WASD keyboards they use usually Mini USB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:42:05
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:37:58
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:17:15
    Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

    Apart from the WASD keyboards they use usually Mini USB.

    thanks for the response...  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:45:19
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:37:58
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:17:15
    Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

    Apart from the WASD keyboards they use usually Mini USB.
    Do you have any idea why WASD would choose micro over mini USB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:51:08
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:45:19
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:37:58
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:17:15
    Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

    Apart from the WASD keyboards they use usually Mini USB.
    Do you have any idea why WASD would choose micro over mini USB?
    CM is going to do it with the novatouch. They(CM) say micro is better because the plug will break before the port. So you should only have to replace the cable rather than desolder the plug if you slam your keyboard into something by accident.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:56:56
    I know WASDv2,New Matias,The Novatouch using micro cmiiw
    Mini easily dislodged from my experince, micro not like some handphone or gadget
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:55:11
    Could someone be as kind as to link me to an ebay listing for the type of cable you need to make usb cables? A few members tried to explain it to me but I'm still a little confused. Thanks in advance. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:57:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:55:11
    Could someone be as kind as to link me to an ebay listing for the type of cable you need to make usb cables? A few members tried to explain it to me but I'm still a little confused. Thanks in advance. :thumb:

    You need USB cable to make USB cables.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 14:01:28
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:55:11
    Could someone be as kind as to link me to an ebay listing for the type of cable you need to make usb cables? A few members tried to explain it to me but I'm still a little confused. Thanks in advance. :thumb:

    I answered this question last time you asked already. I don't think you replied?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:36:43
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:57:13
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:55:11
    Could someone be as kind as to link me to an ebay listing for the type of cable you need to make usb cables? A few members tried to explain it to me but I'm still a little confused. Thanks in advance. :thumb:

    You need USB cable to make USB cables.

    CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

    Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

    Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:51:55
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:36:43
    CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

    Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

    Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1

    Alright, let me get this straight for you since you seem a bit lost ;)
    You usually just buy a normal USB cable like this one (http://www.ebay.de/itm/231151333068?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) and cut the ends off. It is cheap and requires not much work. The wire you linked is just that: 1 wire. However USB cables have 4 to 5 wires inside, meaning you need to bundle at least 4 per cable, meaning the cable will get thick and the sleeve you want to put around it will probably no more fit. Additionally, you would have to get shielding and if possible an outer plastic coat - all that requires a lot more work and probably also more money than simply buying a normal cable and cutting the ends off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:56:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:51:55
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:36:43
    CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

    Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

    Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1

    Alright, let me get this straight for you since you seem a bit lost ;)
    You usually just buy a normal USB cable like this one (http://www.ebay.de/itm/231151333068?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) and cut the ends off. It is cheap and requires not much work. The wire you linked is just that: 1 wire. However USB cables have 4 to 5 wires inside, meaning you need to bundle at least 4 per cable, meaning the cable will get thick and the sleeve you want to put around it will probably no more fit. Additionally, you would have to get shielding and if possible an outer plastic coat - all that requires a lot more work and probably also more money than simply buying a normal cable and cutting the ends off.

    Thank you. :) Finally someone explained it to me well. Just curious as to how the people who make their own cables do it.. I wanted to attempt it all from scratch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:04:20
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:56:59
    Thank you. :) Finally someone explained it to me well. Just curious as to how the people who make their own cables do it.. I wanted to attempt it all from scratch.

    This guide by nubbinator might help you as well: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44924.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:05:51
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:36:43
    CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

    Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

    Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-low-smoke-zero-halogen-lszh-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable-24-awg-power-conductors

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable-28-awg-power-conductors
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:45:10
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:05:51
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:36:43
    CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

    Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

    Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-low-smoke-zero-halogen-lszh-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable-24-awg-power-conductors

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable-28-awg-power-conductors

    Thanks nubb. Wow that's expensive.. I expected it to be a whole lot cheaper.  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 23 March 2014, 17:14:36
    Nope, it's not cheap at all.  The cheapest way to make some cables for yourself is buying some cables to cannibalize off of Amazon if you have prime, buying some cables to cannibalize off of Newegg if you have shoprunner, or buying some cables to cannibalize off of Monoprice.  If you buy the cable straight up, expect to be paying at least $0.50 a foot after you factor in shipping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 23 March 2014, 18:36:51
    I would split 100ft with you if you want to go that route.

    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:45:10
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:05:51
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:36:43
    CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

    Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

    Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-low-smoke-zero-halogen-lszh-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable-24-awg-power-conductors

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable-28-awg-power-conductors

    Thanks nubb. Wow that's expensive.. I expected it to be a whole lot cheaper.  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:11:17
    I want minimal travel distance reduction and change in feel, which keyboard should I go for? HHKB Pro 2 w/ dental bands mod vs HHKB Pro 2 Type-S. Same question goes for the regular Realforce 87u and the Silenced version as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:12:49
    Does someone know if SP's SA 4.5u (TAA) SKU: 303193 fits the KBT Pure Pro, and / or the TEX Beattle?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:15:33
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:12:49
    Does someone know if SP's SA 4.5u (TAA) SKU: 303193 fits the KBT Pure Pro, and / or the TEX Beattle?

    It should fit if it has the correct length.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 23 March 2014, 22:12:56
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:45:10
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:05:51
    Quote from: stancato9 on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:36:43
    CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

    Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

    Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-low-smoke-zero-halogen-lszh-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable-24-awg-power-conductors

    http://www.l-com.com/usb-usb-revision-20-compliant-bulk-cable-28-awg-power-conductors

    Thanks nubb. Wow that's expensive.. I expected it to be a whole lot cheaper.  :-[

    $25 for 100 feet is actually pretty cheap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 23 March 2014, 22:38:12
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:15:33
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:12:49
    Does someone know if SP's SA 4.5u (TAA) SKU: 303193 fits the KBT Pure Pro, and / or the TEX Beattle?

    It should fit if it has the correct length.


    It is the right length, but I am not sure if the stems will fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:22:32
    Is there such a thing as a PS2 Hub so I can use multiple keyboards for one computer?

    I have found Switches that do it the other way around (1 PS2 keyboard for 4 PCs), but that's not what I want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 24 March 2014, 06:07:24
    Some keyboards allow you to plug in an additional PS/2 device, but this is uncommon as PS/2 devices are not normally hot-swappable.

    I have used this feature to "daisy chain" two access-IS keyboards together to make a split KB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:01:17
    So I was going to buy a Realforce 87u 55g, but the seller told me there is some rust on the plate. Just a few spots. Is this dangerous to the keyboard? Can it be dangerous over time? How can it be removed, with sandpaper or something? He says it functions perfectly, though.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:11:21
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 23 March 2014, 22:38:12
    It is the right length, but I am not sure if the stems will fit.

    If the stem is centered on the Pure Pro then it will probably fit.

    Quote from: LechnerDE on Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:22:32
    Is there such a thing as a PS2 Hub so I can use multiple keyboards for one computer?

    PS2 to USB converters + USB hub would work.

    Quote from: epzy on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:01:17
    So I was going to buy a Realforce 87u 55g, but the seller told me there was some rust on the plate. Just a few spots. Is this dangerous to the keyboard? Can it be dangerous over time? How can it be removed, with sandpaper or something? He says it functions perfectly, though.

    It depends on how bad the rust is. You can remove it with sandpaper (make sure the rust is all gone) and you need to paint it afterwards to seal it again. I'm just wondering how a keyboard plate can rust? Shouldn't it be aluminium?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: delobe on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:12:07
    Hi, I have Filco majestouch mx brown. Filco, I believe, is plate mounted. I want to replace with cherry mx clears.

    Can I use pcb mount style clears? Is the swap out simple?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:18:11
    Quote from: delobe on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:12:07
    Hi, I have Filco majestouch mx brown. Filco, I believe, is plate mounted. I want to replace with cherry mx clears.

    Can I use pcb mount style clears? Is the swap out simple?

    Yes Filco is plate mounted. You can use PCB mount switches, but you will have to cut off two plastic pins on the bottom (see this image (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46376.0;attach=29853;image)) on each switch. To swap them out you need to desolder your switches, replace them with the new ones and solder them in again. If you haven't done any soldering or desoldering yet, I would recommend you to train that a bit on an old PCB. You can also check out my modding guide by clicking the link in my signature.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: delobe on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:31:47
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:18:11

    Yes Filco is plate mounted. You can use PCB mount switches, but you will have to cut off two plastic pins on the bottom (see this image (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46376.0;attach=29853;image)) on each switch. To swap them out you need to desolder your switches, replace them with the new ones and solder them in again. If you haven't done any soldering or desoldering yet, I would recommend you to train that a bit on an old PCB. You can also check out my modding guide by clicking the link in my signature.

    Many thanks, perfect
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:42:48
    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:11:17
    I want minimal travel distance reduction and change in feel, which keyboard should I go for? HHKB Pro 2 w/ dental bands mod vs HHKB Pro 2 Type-S. Same question goes for the regular Realforce 87u and the Silenced version as well.

    I guess it depends on what layout you want. I've read that the dental bands can make the travel distance change but that's not always 100% of the feedback out there. From what I read, the Type S boards feel the same as the regular boards.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:48:26
    Are there any PBT sets with a tsangan?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:49:40
    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:48:26
    Are there any PBT sets with a tsangan?

    Some Cherry boards might have the 7x spacebar and 1.5x mods you're looking for but I'm not aware of PBT Tsangan kits. Hm...well, wait, aren't the Cherry spacebars on boards with PBT caps made from ABS? Can someone verify that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:51:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:49:40
    Some Cherry boards might have the 7x spacebar and 1.5x mods you're looking for but I'm not aware of PBT Tsangan kits. Hm...well, wait, aren't the Cherry spacebars on boards with PBT caps made from ABS? Can someone verify that?

    Iirc they have a "PBT" stamp on the bottom but aren't actually PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:52:41
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:51:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:49:40
    Some Cherry boards might have the 7x spacebar and 1.5x mods you're looking for but I'm not aware of PBT Tsangan kits. Hm...well, wait, aren't the Cherry spacebars on boards with PBT caps made from ABS? Can someone verify that?

    Iirc they have a "PBT" stamp on the bottom but aren't actually PBT.

    ^^ Was about to post the same thing :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:53:26
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:52:41
    ^^ Was about to post the same thing :D

    Sniping you is quite the achievement ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:58:36
    Thanks guys. So you are pretty much forced to go with doubleshots on a board with 1.5 mods.. That's unfortunate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:38:19
    @Bluebär

    No clue, he said he didn't know about it until he tried to clean it. Haven't gotten a picture either...

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:42:48
    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:11:17
    I want minimal travel distance reduction and change in feel, which keyboard should I go for? HHKB Pro 2 w/ dental bands mod vs HHKB Pro 2 Type-S. Same question goes for the regular Realforce 87u and the Silenced version as well.

    I guess it depends on what layout you want. I've read that the dental bands can make the travel distance change but that's not always 100% of the feedback out there. From what I read, the Type S boards feel the same as the regular boards.

    Okay, seems like I should go for a Type-S then, but I'll have to do some thorough research regardless. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:40:57
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 07:11:21
    It depends on how bad the rust is. You can remove it with sandpaper (make sure the rust is all gone) and you need to paint it afterwards to seal it again. I'm just wondering how a keyboard plate can rust? Shouldn't it be aluminium?

    Actually, most switch plates in stock keyboards are made from regular mild steel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:43:45
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:40:57
    Actually, most switch plates in stock keyboards are made from regular mild steel.

    Oh yes you're right. Makes me wonder though, why don't they use aluminium? It's fairly cheap (not sure how it compares to steel), light, easy to work with, etc?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:47:28
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:43:45
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:40:57
    Actually, most switch plates in stock keyboards are made from regular mild steel.

    Oh yes you're right. Makes me wonder though, why don't they use aluminium? It's fairly cheap (not sure how it compares to steel), light, easy to work with, etc?

    Mild steel is really easy to find, easy to work with, and is really cheap. Aluminum is very light and doesn't give that added heft to the keyboard when you pick it up. It doesn't feel as "solid". I have an aluminum TKL plate and it's significantly lighter than a stainless steel plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:54:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 08:47:28
    Mild steel is really easy to find, easy to work with, and is really cheap. Aluminum is very light and doesn't give that added heft to the keyboard when you pick it up. It doesn't feel as "solid". I have an aluminum TKL plate and it's significantly lighter than a stainless steel plate.

    I suppose cost is the bigger factor here... Anyways, good to know, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:29:14
    Sorry for so many questions, but what diameter sleeve is generally used for sleeving usb cables?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:41:03
    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:29:14
    Sorry for so many questions, but what diameter sleeve is generally used for sleeving usb cables?

    Most common sleeves are paracord (which you can get on Amazon, ebay,...) and MDPC (available here: mdpc-x.com).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 14:11:39
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:41:03
    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:29:14
    Sorry for so many questions, but what diameter sleeve is generally used for sleeving usb cables?

    Most common sleeves are paracord (which you can get on Amazon, ebay,...) and MDPC (available here: mdpc-x.com).

    Yeah, but some ebay listings for PET material show the diameter.. and it differs greatly. I need to know which size is good for USB cables.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 14:12:46
    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 14:11:39
    Yeah, but some ebay listings for PET material show the diameter.. and it differs greatly. I need to know which size is good for USB cables.

    Do you have a ruler and a USB cable? Take a rough inner diameter measurement. I don't know the diameter off the top of my head but it should be very easy to get a rough number for your purposes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 14:14:34
    Quote from: stancato9 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 14:11:39
    Yeah, but some ebay listings for PET material show the diameter.. and it differs greatly. I need to know which size is good for USB cables.

    It depends on the USB cable of course. My KBT Pure stock cable is about 4-5mm thick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:06:18
    Random fun fact: This thread now has the second most replies on Geekhack as shown by the stats page (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats). It has 6972 as of this post. The next topic "What did you add to your keyboard today?" has 6914. And the topic with the most replies is "What did you get in the mail today?" with 18493.

    What I'm really trying to say is, thanks for making this thread such a hit. It's been a little over a year since I made the OP and I honestly didn't think it would get this response. :D

    I think a giveaway might be in order...Or something else celebratory!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:10:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:06:18
    Random fun fact: This thread now has the second most replies on Geekhack as shown by the stats page (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats). It has 6972 as of this post. The next topic "What did you add to your keyboard today?" has 6914. And the topic with the most replies is "What did you get in the mail today?" with 18493.

    What I'm really trying to say is, thanks for making this thread such a hit. It's been a little over a year since I made the OP and I honestly didn't think it would get this response. :D

    I think a giveaway might be in order...Or something else celebratory!


    I bet it makes you happy that you're not alone :)))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:10:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:06:18
    Random fun fact: This thread now has the second most replies on Geekhack as shown by the stats page (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats). It has 6972 as of this post. The next topic "What did you add to your keyboard today?" has 6914. And the topic with the most replies is "What did you get in the mail today?" with 18493.

    What I'm really trying to say is, thanks for making this thread such a hit. It's been a little over a year since I made the OP and I honestly didn't think it would get this response. :D

    I think a giveaway might be in order...Or something else celebratory!


    Hehe, congratulations with a much needed, successful thread I guess. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:11:00
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:10:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:06:18
    Random fun fact: This thread now has the second most replies on Geekhack as shown by the stats page (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats). It has 6972 as of this post. The next topic "What did you add to your keyboard today?" has 6914. And the topic with the most replies is "What did you get in the mail today?" with 18493.

    What I'm really trying to say is, thanks for making this thread such a hit. It's been a little over a year since I made the OP and I honestly didn't think it would get this response. :D

    I think a giveaway might be in order...Or something else celebratory!


    I bet it makes you happy that you're not alone :))

    At night I don't cry myself to sleep anymore. Just whimpers now.  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:37:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:06:18
    Random fun fact: This thread now has the second most replies on Geekhack as shown by the stats page (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats). It has 6972 as of this post. The next topic "What did you add to your keyboard today?" has 6914. And the topic with the most replies is "What did you get in the mail today?" with 18493.

    What I'm really trying to say is, thanks for making this thread such a hit. It's been a little over a year since I made the OP and I honestly didn't think it would get this response. :D

    I think a giveaway might be in order...Or something else celebratory!


    Very nice! First place when?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:39:14
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:37:42
    Very nice! First place when?

    At the pace we're going at? A little over two years from now we'll have taken over the world "What did you get in the mail thread".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:42:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:06:18
    Random fun fact: This thread now has the second most replies on Geekhack as shown by the stats page (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats). It has 6972 as of this post. The next topic "What did you add to your keyboard today?" has 6914. And the topic with the most replies is "What did you get in the mail today?" with 18493.

    What I'm really trying to say is, thanks for making this thread such a hit. It's been a little over a year since I made the OP and I honestly didn't think it would get this response. :D

    I think a giveaway might be in order...Or something else celebratory!


    I'm curious to know how many of those replies are from Pacifist? ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:43:21
    This is pretty awesome, I remember when this topic was created. I should have posted a question just to be on the first page! Instead I waited until page 10 lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 24 March 2014, 16:09:00
    Quote from: do_Og@n on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:42:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:06:18
    Random fun fact: This thread now has the second most replies on Geekhack as shown by the stats page (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=stats). It has 6972 as of this post. The next topic "What did you add to your keyboard today?" has 6914. And the topic with the most replies is "What did you get in the mail today?" with 18493.

    What I'm really trying to say is, thanks for making this thread such a hit. It's been a little over a year since I made the OP and I honestly didn't think it would get this response. :D

    I think a giveaway might be in order...Or something else celebratory!


    I'm curious to know how many of those replies are from Pacifist? ;)

    At least I post in here instead of making a new thread
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 24 March 2014, 16:10:13
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 24 March 2014, 15:43:21
    This is pretty awesome, I remember when this topic was created. I should have posted a question just to be on the first page! Instead I waited until page 10 lol.

    waited until page 10 too
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 24 March 2014, 19:35:57
    Is there any way, either via software or physically, to disable a keyboard from being affected by numlock?

    Also can I swap out costar stabs plate for cherry plate stabs? Or do I need to change the holes?

    Also are there any custom 75% plates that fit the kc 84 (race plate won't work)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 24 March 2014, 19:48:19
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 24 March 2014, 19:35:57
    1. Is there any way, either via software or physically, to disable a keyboard from being affected by numlock?
    2. Also can I swap out costar stabs plate for cherry plate stabs? Or do I need to change the holes?
    3. Also are there any custom 75% plates that fit the kc 84 (race plate won't work)

    1. Yes, you could for example always send out page up etc. or only the number via AHK or a custom firmware.
    2. You would need different holes.
    3. Not sure but I'd guess no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hudson0804 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 06:56:44
    Can I get a spare tray for my ducky shine 3?

    I want to paint my tray and would prefer to have a replacement/spare in case I balls it up.

    Also has anyone seen my keys?  I had them last night but I cant find them.

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 25 March 2014, 07:04:00
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 06:56:44
    1. Can I get a spare tray for my ducky shine 3?
    2. Also has anyone seen my keys?  I had them last night but I cant find them.

    1. I don't think you can buy spare trays for Ducky boards.
    2. Do you have a photo so you we can identify them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hudson0804 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 07:08:05
    I was hoping that someone may know of an oem supplier -sadface-

    As for the keys.  Not too dissimilar to these (http://www.quick-return-cleaners.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/keys.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Tue, 25 March 2014, 07:30:36
    Does any one own or know of a Cherry Yugoslav ISO board? If so link for pics would be nice  ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 25 March 2014, 08:04:45
    Quote from: Candyflip on Tue, 25 March 2014, 07:30:36
    Does any one own or know of a Cherry Yugoslav ISO board? If so link for pics would be nice  ^-^

    There is a language code for Yugoslav ISO, so I guess there are a few. Here is an example:
    http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/cherry-g81-3000-say-t2754.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Tue, 25 March 2014, 08:14:07
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 25 March 2014, 08:04:45
    Quote from: Candyflip on Tue, 25 March 2014, 07:30:36
    Does any one own or know of a Cherry Yugoslav ISO board? If so link for pics would be nice  ^-^

    There is a language code for Yugoslav ISO, so I guess there are a few. Here is an example:
    http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/cherry-g81-3000-say-t2754.html
    Wow thanks for the link, now I want one so bad. They seem hard to find tho :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 March 2014, 09:39:32
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 06:56:44
    Also has anyone seen my keys?  I had them last night but I cant find them.

    I GOT THEM. I TAKE BRIBES/REPAYMENT IN ICE CREAM. PM ME FOR MORE INFO.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 24 March 2014, 19:35:57
    Also are there any custom 75% plates that fit the kc 84 (race plate won't work)

    I'm not sure there are any other 75% plates made besides the Race one and the one made for the Epsilon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hudson0804 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 11:13:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 March 2014, 09:39:32
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 06:56:44
    Also has anyone seen my keys?  I had them last night but I cant find them.

    I GOT THEM. I TAKE BRIBES/REPAYMENT IN ICE CREAM. PM ME FOR MORE INFO.


    How about I PM you my address.. let yourself in.. (tidy up if you're hard pressed fro something to do) and just drop them on the side :)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 March 2014, 11:26:08
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 11:13:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 March 2014, 09:39:32
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 06:56:44
    Also has anyone seen my keys?  I had them last night but I cant find them.

    I GOT THEM. I TAKE BRIBES/REPAYMENT IN ICE CREAM. PM ME FOR MORE INFO.


    How about I PM you my address.. let yourself in.. (tidy up if you're hard pressed fro something to do) and just drop them on the side :)?

    This thread just got a bit naughty.  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hudson0804 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 06:39:16
    Is it normal behaviour to be searching on eBay for the term "key caps" at times I care not to mention (very AM people). 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 06:46:23
    nvm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 26 March 2014, 09:01:20
    Are USB G80-1800s Mac compatible?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 09:03:42
    Quote from: JaccoW on Wed, 26 March 2014, 09:01:20
    Are USB G80-1800s Mac compatible?

    Think the only issue you'll have is that there's no command button? You'll have to remap it to be command. KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54374.msg1218028#msg1218028) should do the trick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:12:59
    What are mandolin crystals?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:14:37
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:12:59
    What are mandolin crystals?

    It's an inside joke. There was a user named Mandolin who was trying to sell Model M keyboards with what he called "rare crystals" in them. He was advertising his eBay auctions with ridiculous markups since he had these crystals in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:15:06
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:12:59
    What are mandolin crystals?

    magic
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:16:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:14:37
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:12:59
    What are mandolin crystals?

    It's an inside joke. There was a user named Mandolin who was trying to sell Model M keyboards with what he called "rare crystals" in them. He was advertising his eBay auctions are ridiculous markups since he had these crystals in.
    Everything makes more sense now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:41:52
    How do I flip the spacebar on a Realforce 87U?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:44:15
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:41:52
    How do I flip the spacebar on a Realforce 87U?

    very carefully :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:55:04
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:41:52
    How do I flip the spacebar on a Realforce 87U?

    Is it not the same as the MX spacebars? Pull it off then flip it around and push it back in place?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:56:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:55:04
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:41:52
    How do I flip the spacebar on a Realforce 87U?

    Is it not the same as the MX spacebars? Pull it off then flip it around and push it back in place?

    According to retspiR, it's more complex than that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:59:21
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:56:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:55:04
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:41:52
    How do I flip the spacebar on a Realforce 87U?

    Is it not the same as the MX spacebars? Pull it off then flip it around and push it back in place?

    According to retspiR, it's more complex than that.

    According to Ripster's imgur (http://imgur.com/a/eI8Il#phfhD) (found from this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53105.msg1183653#msg1183653)), you just support both sides of the spacebar and pull it off. Then flip it around. I don't see anything else that would make it more difficult than that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 15:13:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:59:21
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:56:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:55:04
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:41:52
    How do I flip the spacebar on a Realforce 87U?

    Is it not the same as the MX spacebars? Pull it off then flip it around and push it back in place?

    According to retspiR, it's more complex than that.

    According to Ripster's imgur (http://imgur.com/a/eI8Il#phfhD) (found from this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53105.msg1183653#msg1183653)), you just support both sides of the spacebar and pull it off. Then flip it around. I don't see anything else that would make it more difficult than that.

    that was surprisingly easy.

    well then
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 15:37:33
    What's wrong? I have a pretty good idea, but want to make sure. Perhaps someone else has had this happen before.

    (http://oi57.tinypic.com/29ase9s.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 March 2014, 15:59:05
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 15:37:33
    What's wrong? I have a pretty good idea, but want to make sure. Perhaps someone else has had this happen before.

    Show Image
    (http://oi57.tinypic.com/29ase9s.jpg)


    I did some analysis, and I think I've isolated the issue:

    (http://i.imgur.com/eTldpbI.jpg?1)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:02:22
    :P

    I wanna know why it's stuck. I think it's not perfectly lined up under there, so will open it up tomorrow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:02:39
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 March 2014, 15:59:05
    I did some analysis, and I think I've isolated the issue:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/eTldpbI.jpg?1)


    Wow! Revolutionary!

    Is the dome underneath correctly seated?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:04:34
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:02:39
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 March 2014, 15:59:05
    I did some analysis, and I think I've isolated the issue:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/eTldpbI.jpg?1)


    Wow! Revolutionary!

    Is the dome underneath correctly seated?

    Should be, but it might have moved a little while I was fastening the screws. Will try again tomorrow, but this time I'll hold the plate/pcb real tight while fastening the screws so there's zero chance of movement.

    When I just fiddle with the sliders alone though, I feel like they get stuck a lot as well. It's weird...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:06:03
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:04:34
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:02:39
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 March 2014, 15:59:05
    I did some analysis, and I think I've isolated the issue:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/eTldpbI.jpg?1)


    Wow! Revolutionary!

    Is the dome underneath correctly seated?

    Should be, but it might have moved a little while I was fastening the screws. Will try again tomorrow, but this time I'll hold the plate/pcb real tight while fastening the screws so there's zero chance of movement.

    When I just fiddle with the sliders alone though, I feel like they get stuck a lot as well. It's weird...

    Sounds like something in the stack of parts isn't aligned correctly. Try reseating everything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:07:27
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 06:39:16
    Is it normal behaviour to be searching on eBay for the term "key caps" at times I care not to mention (very AM people). 

    Around here - yes ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:08:47
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:07:27
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 06:39:16
    Is it normal behaviour to be searching on eBay for the term "key caps" at times I care not to mention (very AM people). 

    Around here - yes ;)

    Yep. I actually just use "mx cherry" as my regular search term.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:09:25
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:04:34
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:02:39
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 March 2014, 15:59:05
    I did some analysis, and I think I've isolated the issue:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/eTldpbI.jpg?1)


    Wow! Revolutionary!

    Is the dome underneath correctly seated?

    Should be, but it might have moved a little while I was fastening the screws. Will try again tomorrow, but this time I'll hold the plate/pcb real tight while fastening the screws so there's zero chance of movement.

    When I just fiddle with the sliders alone though, I feel like they get stuck a lot as well. It's weird...

    Can't say I've ever had that problem. What I do is support the plate/case top and put the domes/springs in it and then screw the PCB to it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:09:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:06:03
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:04:34
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:02:39
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 26 March 2014, 15:59:05
    I did some analysis, and I think I've isolated the issue:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/eTldpbI.jpg?1)


    Wow! Revolutionary!

    Is the dome underneath correctly seated?

    Should be, but it might have moved a little while I was fastening the screws. Will try again tomorrow, but this time I'll hold the plate/pcb real tight while fastening the screws so there's zero chance of movement.

    When I just fiddle with the sliders alone though, I feel like they get stuck a lot as well. It's weird...

    Sounds like something in the stack of parts isn't aligned correctly. Try reseating everything.

    Yes, sir. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:14:45
    Where can i find KBT Pure backlit?
    Preferably with white led and mx-red
    It seems to be out of stock everywhere
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:16:00
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:14:45
    Where can i find KBT Pure backlit?
    Preferably with white led and mx-red
    It seems to be out of stock anywhere

    Not the switch or color but you can find a couple for sale in this thread http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48727.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:18:01
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:14:45
    Where can i find KBT Pure backlit?
    Preferably with white led and mx-red
    It seems to be out of stock everywhere
    BTW, the KBT Pure was never sold from factory with white LED's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hcry4 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:28:15
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:18:01
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:14:45
    Where can i find KBT Pure backlit?
    Preferably with white led and mx-red
    It seems to be out of stock everywhere
    BTW, the KBT Pure was never sold from factory with white LED's.

    Really? I got this one (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=114) before it was sold out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:29:25
    LOL WAT?! Wow, consider me corrected. I am still very new here. Never seen that model ever, nice catch! :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 26 March 2014, 17:04:53
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:29:25
    LOL WAT?! Wow, consider me corrected. I am still very new here. Never seen that model ever, nice catch! :thumb:
    i sold mine lol and regret it now
    There is Pure Pro in white led but some downsides to me
    small spacebar and backspace
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hudson0804 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 03:32:21
    I have purchased some O rings for my mx brown ducky. 

    do you guys just do the alphanumeric keys or the whole board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Thu, 27 March 2014, 03:45:05
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 03:32:21
    I have purchased some O rings for my mx brown ducky. 

    do you guys just do the alphanumeric keys or the whole board?

    I put mine on all the keys to keep things uniform.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 27 March 2014, 03:45:49
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 03:32:21
    I have purchased some O rings for my mx brown ducky. 

    do you guys just do the alphanumeric keys or the whole board?

    I have never seen someone do just the alphas, or just the mods, but that'd be up to you. Personally I  have always gone for o-rings across the whole board. I like a uniform feel. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hudson0804 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 04:44:26
    I think this is probably more laziness than anything.. 108 keys seems a lot.

    I shall do the lot. 

    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 27 March 2014, 04:58:22
    Hence why you should get a 60%. ;)

    But in all seriousness; installing o-rings isn't too much work, at least compared to other mods like stickering, lubing, soldering, desoldering etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kaz on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:27:11
    I've got a couple hundred spare Cherry Black switches lying around. Are there any DIY kits including PCB/case I could drop them into?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:29:22
    Quote from: kaz on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:27:11
    I've got a couple hundred spare Cherry Black switches lying around. Are there any DIY kits including PCB/case I could drop them into?
    You can drop them in my mail :p
    In other news a Phantom project sounds good but at additional cost sadly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:30:18
    Quote from: kaz on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:27:11
    I've got a couple hundred spare Cherry Black switches lying around. Are there any DIY kits including PCB/case I could drop them into?

    Sprit's GB has nice PCBs and cases. There's also the Phantom PCB which you can get from mechanicalkeyboards.com, but that doesn't include a case. You can also get a GH60 (also PCB only) in the classifieds when the GB is finished.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kaz on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:42:37
    Cheers, I'll check them out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:48:42
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:14:45
    Where can i find KBT Pure backlit?
    Preferably with white led and mx-red
    It seems to be out of stock everywhere

    I think MK.com is your best shot besides the Classifieds. You can try using their incoming stock page (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/incoming.php) to see when they'll restock more Pures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:51:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:48:42
    I think MK.com is your best shot besides the Classifieds. You can try using their incoming stock page (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/incoming.php) to see when they'll restock more Pures.

    I don't think the KBT Pure is in production anymore.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:24:09
    To all the people who make custom cables.

    If you use Paracord.  I am assuming you are using the 550 Paracord Type III with 7 or 9 internal strands and 550lbs break strength.  In your experience does the 7 or 9 strand work better for cable sheathing?  I have heard that it can be hit and miss with Paracord being big enough in some cases.

    I will be using a 28/24 USB cable (so it might be slightly bigger than standard USB cable).  Does anyone have recommendations for the right Paracord to buy? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:27:35
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:51:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 March 2014, 07:48:42
    I think MK.com is your best shot besides the Classifieds. You can try using their incoming stock page (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/incoming.php) to see when they'll restock more Pures.

    I don't think the KBT Pure is in production anymore.

    Thought it was only the Poker X that was getting phased out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:42:27
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:24:09
    If you use Paracord.  I am assuming you are using the 550 Paracord Type III with 7 or 9 internal strands and 550lbs break strength.  In your experience does the 7 or 9 strand work better for cable sheathing?  I have heard that it can be hit and miss with Paracord being big enough in some cases.

    I will be using a 28/24 USB cable (so it might be slightly bigger than standard USB cable).  Does anyone have recommendations for the right Paracord to buy? 

    I guess the 9 strand might work better than the 7 strand one, since it is probably a bit thicker. I would also recommend rather using a thinner than usual USB cable.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:27:35
    Thought it was only the Poker X that was getting phased out.

    There recently was a post with somebody saying that people asked for a KBT Pure Replica from Vortex (basically a KBT Pure with PN layer and a plate I guess) because they were not happy with the Pure Pro, and they're out of stock pretty much everywhere now, which makes me conclude that they stopped producing them as soon as the Pure Pro came out or even earlier. Same for Poker X and Poker II.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hudson0804 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:45:05
    I have a new hoddy.  I need to embrace my new found hobby.

    I'd like to build my own keyboard (not from scratch you understand) but want something I can say.. yes I assembled/built that.

    Are there any kits/vendors that you can advise on.

    I am quite handy with a soldering iron. 

    Any suggestions? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:50:44
    Quote from: hudson0804 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:45:05
    I'd like to build my own keyboard (not from scratch you understand) but want something I can say.. yes I assembled/built that.

    Are there any kits/vendors that you can advise on.

    Any suggestions?

    Easiest PCBs to get right now are the Phantom (from MK.com), Ergodox (from Massdrop), and Sprit (from the GB sub-forum) ones. You might also be able to get a GH60 when that comes out. Korean boards such as the KMAC and LZ boards are also options.

    You can also buy a stock board and modify it with switch swaps, spring swapping, or LED changes. For example making lubed ergo-clears or Jailhouse Blues.

    I recommend you take a drive through Making Stuff Together to see what's out there in terms of custom stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:56:53
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:42:27
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:24:09
    If you use Paracord.  I am assuming you are using the 550 Paracord Type III with 7 or 9 internal strands and 550lbs break strength.  In your experience does the 7 or 9 strand work better for cable sheathing?  I have heard that it can be hit and miss with Paracord being big enough in some cases.

    I will be using a 28/24 USB cable (so it might be slightly bigger than standard USB cable).  Does anyone have recommendations for the right Paracord to buy? 

    I guess the 9 strand might work better than the 7 strand one, since it is probably a bit thicker. I would also recommend rather using a thinner than usual USB cable.

    Thanks for the answer.  That is also what I was thinking...  I want to use the 28/24 instead of the 28/28 because I will not be creating cables only for keyboards.  If you try to use 28/28 as a power cable for newer devices like phones, tablets, etc, you will find that they do not charge correctly.  These new devices require the extra power draw that the 24 gauge wire provides.

    I know that MDPC-X is an alternative to Paracord, but it is much harder to get my hands on, so I have not gone that route yet...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:03:10
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:24:09
    To all the people who make custom cables.

    If you use Paracord.  I am assuming you are using the 550 Paracord Type III with 7 or 9 internal strands and 550lbs break strength.  In your experience does the 7 or 9 strand work better for cable sheathing?  I have heard that it can be hit and miss with Paracord being big enough in some cases.

    I will be using a 28/24 USB cable (so it might be slightly bigger than standard USB cable).  Does anyone have recommendations for the right Paracord to buy?

    I haven't tried many varieties of 550lb Paracord, but the few ones I have with 7 internal strands are a snug fit on 28/28 AWG USB Cables. The ID of paracord can vary from manufacture to manufacture.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:06:26
    Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:03:10
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:24:09
    To all the people who make custom cables.

    If you use Paracord.  I am assuming you are using the 550 Paracord Type III with 7 or 9 internal strands and 550lbs break strength.  In your experience does the 7 or 9 strand work better for cable sheathing?  I have heard that it can be hit and miss with Paracord being big enough in some cases.

    I will be using a 28/24 USB cable (so it might be slightly bigger than standard USB cable).  Does anyone have recommendations for the right Paracord to buy?

    I haven't tried many varieties of 550lb Paracord, but the few ones I have with 7 internal strands are a snug fit on 28/28 AWG USB Cables. The ID of paracord can vary from manufacture to manufacture.

    Thank you, that is very helpful.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:09:32
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:56:53
    Thanks for the answer.  That is also what I was thinking...  I want to use the 28/24 instead of the 28/28 because I will not be creating cables only for keyboards.  If you try to use 28/28 as a power cable for newer devices like phones, tablets, etc, you will find that they do not charge correctly.  These new devices require the extra power draw that the 24 gauge wire provides.

    I doubt that it really is that much a of a problem as USB should only provide 5V anyways. For example, the cable from my Nexus 4 is a lot thinner in comparison to the cable that came with my Pure. If a device doesn't charge correctly on a certain cable, something is wrong with the cable and it's probably not its thickness.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:15:48
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:09:32
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 10:56:53
    Thanks for the answer.  That is also what I was thinking...  I want to use the 28/24 instead of the 28/28 because I will not be creating cables only for keyboards.  If you try to use 28/28 as a power cable for newer devices like phones, tablets, etc, you will find that they do not charge correctly.  These new devices require the extra power draw that the 24 gauge wire provides.

    I doubt that it really is that much a of a problem as USB should only provide 5V anyways. For example, the cable from my Nexus 4 is a lot thinner in comparison to the cable that came with my Pure. If a device doesn't charge correctly on a certain cable, something is wrong with the cable and it's probably not its thickness.

    In doing research on the topic, this is what I have found.  I have not had the chance to test the two side by side, but I found a few examples where people were having problems with this.  If I remember correctly, I think the Nexus 7 requires a 28/24 cable to charge correctly.  I believe it just charges VERY slowly without it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:19:22
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:15:48
    In doing research on the topic, this is what I have found.  I have not had the chance to test the two side by side, but I found a few examples where people were having problems with this.  If I remember correctly, I think the Nexus 7 requires a 28/24 cable to charge correctly.  I believe it just charges VERY slowly without it.

    Interesting. Well if you've done some research on it I'll believe you :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:26:06
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:19:22
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:15:48
    In doing research on the topic, this is what I have found.  I have not had the chance to test the two side by side, but I found a few examples where people were having problems with this.  If I remember correctly, I think the Nexus 7 requires a 28/24 cable to charge correctly.  I believe it just charges VERY slowly without it.

    Interesting. Well if you've done some research on it I'll believe you :)

    Ya, it is not obvious at all.  Here is an example (http://billcprice.com/futureimperfect/2013/09/not-all-micro-usb-cables-are-equal-if-you-have-a-tablet-watch-out-for-2828-awg-vs-2824-awg/).  If you google stuff like "Nexus 7 USB cable type" you will find all sorts of stuff about people having problems using cables other than the one that came with the device.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Thu, 27 March 2014, 12:08:39
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:26:06
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:19:22
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 27 March 2014, 11:15:48
    In doing research on the topic, this is what I have found.  I have not had the chance to test the two side by side, but I found a few examples where people were having problems with this.  If I remember correctly, I think the Nexus 7 requires a 28/24 cable to charge correctly.  I believe it just charges VERY slowly without it.

    Interesting. Well if you've done some research on it I'll believe you :)

    Ya, it is not obvious at all.  Here is an example (http://billcprice.com/futureimperfect/2013/09/not-all-micro-usb-cables-are-equal-if-you-have-a-tablet-watch-out-for-2828-awg-vs-2824-awg/).  If you google stuff like "Nexus 7 USB cable type" you will find all sorts of stuff about people having problems using cables other than the one that came with the device.

    Yep, it's the amperage that determines how fast a smart phone/tablet can charge.
    Here's a helpful tip from L-Com. You also have to take into consideration cable length & the added resistance.
    (http://puu.sh/7LBmk/eed6c66baf.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 27 March 2014, 18:13:04
    Were Skidata keyboard (the big blue ones with orange on charcoal keycaps) available in ANSI layout?

    I have only ever seen ISO ones on GH, and a Google image search only seems to show ISO too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 27 March 2014, 18:16:22
    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 27 March 2014, 18:13:04
    Were Skidata keyboard (the big blue ones with orange on charcoal keycaps) available in ANSI layout?

    I have only ever seen ISO ones on GH, and a Google image search only seems to show ISO too.

    I'm pretty sure I saw a ANSI one once.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 20:49:02
    What kind of stem is this?
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 27 March 2014, 20:54:41
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 20:49:02
    What kind of stem is this?
    (Attachment Link)

    Is it from am SP crap bag?

    I think it goes to a POS rubberdome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 27 March 2014, 20:59:11
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 27 March 2014, 20:54:41
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 20:49:02
    What kind of stem is this?
    (Attachment Link)

    Is it from am SP crap bag?

    I think it goes to a POS rubberdome.

    Correct
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 21:00:23
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 27 March 2014, 20:54:41
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 27 March 2014, 20:49:02
    What kind of stem is this?
    (Attachment Link)

    Is it from am SP crap bag?

    I think it goes to a POS rubberdome.
    Sweet I've been wanting some of those  :p and yeah crap bag
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wharrislv on Thu, 27 March 2014, 23:58:52
    Being that the demand for clacks is obviously through the roof since the resale value is 10-15x more than retail, is there some reason they're not made in higher numbers?  Is this a case of nintendo marketing, or is there some production issue that prevents them from being made in numbers to satisfy the market?  I'd love to have a bunch of them, but I'm not interested in the "market" and certainly would rather have an entire keyboard instead of a single keycap.  Same goes for brobots and other novelty caps.  I really want to get a few red topre and cherry MX caps to balance my red escapes and even to decorate my numpads, but it'd cost me thousands!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 28 March 2014, 00:32:26
    most novelty caps are created by individuals who are not there for profit. they produce small batches for us enthusiasts and themselves
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 28 March 2014, 00:43:41
    Quote from: wharrislv on Thu, 27 March 2014, 23:58:52
    Being that the demand for clacks is obviously through the roof since the resale value is 10-15x more than retail, is there some reason they're not made in higher numbers?  Is this a case of nintendo marketing, or is there some production issue that prevents them from being made in numbers to satisfy the market?  I'd love to have a bunch of them, but I'm not interested in the "market" and certainly would rather have an entire keyboard instead of a single keycap.  Same goes for brobots and other novelty caps.  I really want to get a few red topre and cherry MX caps to balance my red escapes and even to decorate my numpads, but it'd cost me thousands!

    Click Clack and Bro Caps are basically one man teams that make caps by hand. Therefor they couldn't possible produce enough caps to keep up with demand. Too many people want them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Fri, 28 March 2014, 00:57:03

    Quote
    There recently was a post with somebody saying that people asked for a KBT Pure Replica from Vortex (basically a KBT Pure with PN layer and a plate I guess) because they were not happy with the Pure Pro, and they're out of stock pretty much everywhere now, which makes me conclude that they stopped producing them as soon as the Pure Pro came out or even earlier. Same for Poker X and Poker II.
    I found only one available on Amazon uk
    unfortunately in purple backlit

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 28 March 2014, 01:19:58
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 28 March 2014, 00:43:41
    Quote from: wharrislv on Thu, 27 March 2014, 23:58:52
    Being that the demand for clacks is obviously through the roof since the resale value is 10-15x more than retail, is there some reason they're not made in higher numbers?  Is this a case of nintendo marketing, or is there some production issue that prevents them from being made in numbers to satisfy the market?  I'd love to have a bunch of them, but I'm not interested in the "market" and certainly would rather have an entire keyboard instead of a single keycap.  Same goes for brobots and other novelty caps.  I really want to get a few red topre and cherry MX caps to balance my red escapes and even to decorate my numpads, but it'd cost me thousands!

    Click Clack and Bro Caps are basically one man teams that make caps by hand. Therefor they couldn't possible produce enough caps to keep up with demand. Too many people want them.

    CC has his small army of gnomes to help.

    Bro Caps does it by himself, by all accounts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Fri, 28 March 2014, 02:39:22
    Should I use 0805 or 0603 smd resistors for my FaceW build?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 28 March 2014, 06:20:27
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 28 March 2014, 01:19:58
    CC has his small army of gnomes to help.

    Bro Caps does it by himself, by all accounts.

    Also Binge works together with his grilfriend and nubs does everything himself I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 28 March 2014, 06:37:05
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 28 March 2014, 06:20:27
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 28 March 2014, 01:19:58
    CC has his small army of gnomes to help.

    Bro Caps does it by himself, by all accounts.

    Also Binge works together with his grilfriend and nubs does everything himself I think.

    and hipsterpunks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 28 March 2014, 06:50:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 28 March 2014, 06:37:05
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 28 March 2014, 06:20:27
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 28 March 2014, 01:19:58
    CC has his small army of gnomes to help.

    Bro Caps does it by himself, by all accounts.

    Also Binge works together with his grilfriend and nubs does everything himself I think.

    and hipsterpunks

    and Pac Caps

    (http://i.imgur.com/bKkfcD7.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 28 March 2014, 08:50:44
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 28 March 2014, 06:20:27
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 28 March 2014, 01:19:58
    CC has his small army of gnomes to help.

    Bro Caps does it by himself, by all accounts.

    Also Binge works together with his grilfriend and nubs does everything himself I think.

    Yup, I do it all on my own when I find the time and when I'm not exhausted from work. So it's usually on a weekend.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 29 March 2014, 01:25:41
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 28 March 2014, 06:20:27
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 28 March 2014, 01:19:58
    CC has his small army of gnomes to help.

    Bro Caps does it by himself, by all accounts.

    Also Binge works together with his grilfriend and nubs does everything himself I think.

    I hope you're not suggesting that Binge's girlfriend is a gnome :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: irendulic on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:36:46
    Hi all,

    I'm trying to find the information on how to change (if at all possible) stems on plate mounted cherry switch. I see that pcb mounted ones are really easy to open, but can't figure out if the plate mounted ones can be opened without desoldering, with desoldering or not at all?
    I would greatly appreciate a link to some post on how to do it, I've googled and searched here, but only managed to find about pcb mounted ones :(

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:38:05
    Quote from: irendulic on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:36:46
    Hi all,

    I'm trying to find the information on how to change (if at all possible) stems on plate mounted cherry switch. I see that pcb mounted ones are really easy to open, but can't figure out if the plate mounted ones can be opened without desoldering, with desoldering or not at all?
    I would greatly appreciate a link to some post on how to do it, I've googled and searched here, but only managed to find about pcb mounted ones :(

    Thanks!

    You absolutely have to desolder plate mounted cherry switches to change the stem.

    That being said, there are certain custom keyboards and custom plates with a design that allows you to do so without having to desolder, but you have to desolder and resolder your switches to install these plates anyway, and only certain keyboards will support it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: irendulic on Sat, 29 March 2014, 12:36:13
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:38:05

    You absolutely have to desolder plate mounted cherry switches to change the stem.

    That being said, there are certain custom keyboards and custom plates with a design that allows you to do so without having to desolder, but you have to desolder and resolder your switches to install these plates anyway, and only certain keyboards will support it.

    Thank you! A couple of follow-up questions.
    After desoldering a plate mounted switch, opening it can be done in the same way as the pcb monted, like with those paper binder clips?
    And pcb mounted switches can be used with plate mount keyboards if those two extra legs are cut off? I'm looking to buy some clears from mk.com, but they are only available as pcb mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Sat, 29 March 2014, 12:38:21
    Quote from: irendulic on Sat, 29 March 2014, 12:36:13
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:38:05

    You absolutely have to desolder plate mounted cherry switches to change the stem.

    That being said, there are certain custom keyboards and custom plates with a design that allows you to do so without having to desolder, but you have to desolder and resolder your switches to install these plates anyway, and only certain keyboards will support it.

    Thank you! A couple of follow-up questions.
    After desoldering a plate mounted switch, opening it can be done in the same way as the pcb monted, like with those paper binder clips?
    And pcb mounted switches can be used with plate mount keyboards if those two extra legs are cut off? I'm looking to buy some clears from mk.com, but they are only available as pcb mounted.

    Correct.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 29 March 2014, 12:57:41
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 29 March 2014, 01:25:41
    I hope you're not suggesting that Binge's girlfriend is a gnome :p

    I never saw a picture so I can't be sure but the voice didn't sound like one.

    Quote from: irendulic on Sat, 29 March 2014, 12:36:13
    After desoldering a plate mounted switch, opening it can be done in the same way as the pcb monted, like with those paper binder clips?

    You don't have to use paper binder clips, there are 4 little tabs on the side (you can see them on this photo (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Cherry_MX_--_opened,_2.jpg)) which you will have to slightly lift, there are many tools to do that, for example a small screwdriver works as well. Binder clips or switch opennig tools are proably easier though and faster if you have to open many.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:54:38
    Is there any sort of dust or spill cover that you can get for custom keyboards? It doesn't need to be molded perfectly to the layout like the kind that come with old Dell and new Ducky boards, but at least something that would keep dust off and prevent spilled water from getting into the case proper.

    I've gotten a few nice keyboards from excellent folks here and I daresay that making a few more is not outside the realm of possibility. However my home is quite dusty, contains a cat who has a precedent of hurking on keyboards (though thankfully not in a while and only on trash low profile rubber domes), and my main workstation is at a lab bench style desk which I share with two others so while I'm not trying to hermetically seal the things between uses I feel like doing something to prevent wayward liquid and cat hair from getting into them is a reasonable precaution for such irreplaceable beauties.

    I've seen the dust covers on EK and it looks like they're designed to rest on the top of the case and thus would be really easy to knock askew. Is that the case or am I missing something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:21:39
    Is there any reason why 26ga or smaller solid core wire would not work for the matrix in a hand wired version?

    Also, related to the same project, does anyone know what gauge wire and possible pitch is used for IDE cables?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:48:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:21:39
    Is there any reason why 26ga or smaller solid core wire would not work for the matrix in a hand wired version?

    Also, related to the same project, does anyone know what gauge wire and possible pitch is used for IDE cables?

    I don't know why a smaller gauge wire than 26 wouldn't work.  Personally, I'm using 28 gauge, though it's not finished so that's hardly a testimonial.  But I've used 32 gauge for similar projects with no issues, so I'm expecting it to work fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:50:41
    I was looking up what internal connector Filco uses for the keyboard cable and it looks like it is a Molex 87369-0500. Does anybody know any other source than Mouser (as shipping would cost 20€ for me)? I only need one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:32:02
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:50:41
    I was looking up what internal connector Filco uses for the keyboard cable and it looks like it is a Molex 87369-0500. Does anybody know any other source than Mouser (as shipping would cost 20€ for me)? I only need one.

    I think I have some.  I can include them in the package I'm sending your way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:33:39
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:32:02
    I think I have some.  I can include them in the package I'm sending your way.

    That would be great, thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:38:24
    Quote from: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:54:38
    Is there any sort of dust or spill cover that you can get for custom keyboards?

    I've seen the dust covers on EK and it looks like they're designed to rest on the top of the case and thus would be really easy to knock askew. Is that the case or am I missing something?

    I've been using the plastic ones that come with the board and I also got a silicone cover with my 700R. If you buy the keycap set box from EK, there should be a cover that you can use. All the covers I use are easily knocked askew. I believe someone was making acrylic covers here which might be harder to knock over.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:43:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:38:24
    I believe someone was making acrylic covers here which might be harder to knock over.

    I think that was MOZ. At least he made some covers for his Phantom and Schoolbus 1800.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:08:54
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:38:05
    Quote from: irendulic on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:36:46
    Hi all,

    I'm trying to find the information on how to change (if at all possible) stems on plate mounted cherry switch. I see that pcb mounted ones are really easy to open, but can't figure out if the plate mounted ones can be opened without desoldering, with desoldering or not at all?
    I would greatly appreciate a link to some post on how to do it, I've googled and searched here, but only managed to find about pcb mounted ones :(

    Thanks!

    You absolutely have to desolder plate mounted cherry switches to change the stem.

    That being said, there are certain custom keyboards and custom plates with a design that allows you to do so without having to desolder, but you have to desolder and resolder your switches to install these plates anyway, and only certain keyboards will support it.
    Or you could push down the entire metal plate, allowing you to open up the switches, and then push it back up again. I saw a thread on it, but I can't find it again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:13:26
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:08:54
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:38:05
    Quote from: irendulic on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:36:46
    Hi all,

    I'm trying to find the information on how to change (if at all possible) stems on plate mounted cherry switch. I see that pcb mounted ones are really easy to open, but can't figure out if the plate mounted ones can be opened without desoldering, with desoldering or not at all?
    I would greatly appreciate a link to some post on how to do it, I've googled and searched here, but only managed to find about pcb mounted ones :(

    Thanks!

    You absolutely have to desolder plate mounted cherry switches to change the stem.

    That being said, there are certain custom keyboards and custom plates with a design that allows you to do so without having to desolder, but you have to desolder and resolder your switches to install these plates anyway, and only certain keyboards will support it.
    Or you could push down the entire metal plate, allowing you to open up the switches, and then push it back up again. I saw a thread on it, but I can't find it again.

    Isn't that just for a specific line of boards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:15:45
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:13:26
    Isn't that just for a specific line of boards?
    I don't see why it would be.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:20:21
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:13:26
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:08:54
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:38:05
    Quote from: irendulic on Sat, 29 March 2014, 02:36:46
    Hi all,

    I'm trying to find the information on how to change (if at all possible) stems on plate mounted cherry switch. I see that pcb mounted ones are really easy to open, but can't figure out if the plate mounted ones can be opened without desoldering, with desoldering or not at all?
    I would greatly appreciate a link to some post on how to do it, I've googled and searched here, but only managed to find about pcb mounted ones :(

    Thanks!

    You absolutely have to desolder plate mounted cherry switches to change the stem.

    That being said, there are certain custom keyboards and custom plates with a design that allows you to do so without having to desolder, but you have to desolder and resolder your switches to install these plates anyway, and only certain keyboards will support it.
    Or you could push down the entire metal plate, allowing you to open up the switches, and then push it back up again. I saw a thread on it, but I can't find it again.

    Isn't that just for a specific line of boards?

    I recall seeing the youtube video, and the maker said it was only applicable for POS matrix boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 31 March 2014, 01:06:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:38:24
    Quote from: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:54:38
    Is there any sort of dust or spill cover that you can get for custom keyboards?

    I've seen the dust covers on EK and it looks like they're designed to rest on the top of the case and thus would be really easy to knock askew. Is that the case or am I missing something?

    I've been using the plastic ones that come with the board and I also got a silicone cover with my 700R. If you buy the keycap set box from EK, there should be a cover that you can use. All the covers I use are easily knocked askew. I believe someone was making acrylic covers here which might be harder to knock over.

    Hmm. Guess I'll have to wait til finals are over and experiment with bending acrylic over a strip heater.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 01:27:08
    Is there a reason why the sliders in complicated Alps are non symmetrical? Does the little indent on one side do anything at all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 31 March 2014, 05:59:19
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 01:27:08
    Is there a reason why the sliders in complicated Alps are non symmetrical? Does the little indent on one side do anything at all?

    There is no known reason for it not being symmetrical and clones have symmetrical sliders, so that obviously works too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rewind on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:01:44
    What is a set of BSP caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:03:23
    Quote from: Rewind on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:01:44
    What is a set of BSP caps?

    BSP is a keycap manufacturer for PBT dyesub keycaps.
    For future reference, check out the Geekhack Glossary (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rewind on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:14:41
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:03:23
    Quote from: Rewind on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:01:44
    What is a set of BSP caps?

    BSP is a keycap manufacturer for PBT dyesub keycaps.
    For future reference, check out the Geekhack Glossary (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0).
    Thanks for the quick reply! :)

    Sorry for not reading and requesting to be spoon fed information... =x
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:27:24
    Quote from: Rewind on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:14:41
    Sorry for not reading and requesting to be spoon fed information... =x

    Don't worry, nobody knows everything ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 01 April 2014, 00:42:36
    Do people sometimes find their 55g RFs tiring, even a little? I'm seeing threads about the 45 vs 55g Topres with varying opinions, some say they're the best switch they'll ever have, some say that the 45g is easier on the hands, 45gs are for baby hands, etc. I can't just get both(college budget), so help me out here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 01 April 2014, 00:47:28
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 01 April 2014, 00:42:36
    Do people sometimes find their 55g RFs tiring, even a little? I'm seeing threads about the 45 vs 55g Topres with varying opinions, some say they're the best switch they'll ever have, some say that the 45g is easier on the hands, 45gs are for baby hands, etc. I can't just get both(college budget), so help me out here.

    Its personal preference
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 01 April 2014, 01:02:05
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 01 April 2014, 00:42:36
    Do people sometimes find their 55g RFs tiring, even a little? I'm seeing threads about the 45 vs 55g Topres with varying opinions, some say they're the best switch they'll ever have, some say that the 45g is easier on the hands, 45gs are for baby hands, etc. I can't just get both(college budget), so help me out here.

    It's definitely much more tactile and snappy, but I wouldn't say that 55g is tiring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:54:06
    What's the difference between a moogle kit and a moggle kit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:56:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:54:06
    What's the difference between a moogle kit and a moggle kit?

    The spelling error.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:58:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:56:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:54:06
    What's the difference between a moogle kit and a moggle kit?

    The spelling error.

    Ok, just checking I thought maybe they were two different things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 01 April 2014, 07:02:03
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:58:31
    Ok, just checking I thought maybe they were two different things.

    I quickly looked if I could find more posts on it but from the posts I could find it's just a moogle kit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 April 2014, 07:35:51
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:56:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:54:06
    What's the difference between a moogle kit and a moggle kit?

    The spelling error.

    LOL. That reply made me laugh BlueBär. It is just a spelling error though.

    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 01 April 2014, 00:42:36
    Do people sometimes find their 55g RFs tiring, even a little? I'm seeing threads about the 45 vs 55g Topres with varying opinions, some say they're the best switch they'll ever have, some say that the 45g is easier on the hands, 45gs are for baby hands, etc. I can't just get both(college budget), so help me out here.

    For me, all Topre switches hurt my hands. I always bottom out when I type and I found that typing for extended periods of time on the 55g Topre switches hurt after a while. The 45g was worse for me since they're much lighter. I don't like light switches so I prefer 55g but then I can't type on 55g for more than 2 hours. But as mentioned before, it's personal preference. Obviously people who, for example, have HHKB in their custom title love their HHKBs and don't have any complaints.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 01 April 2014, 16:36:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 April 2014, 06:54:06
    What's the difference between a moogle kit and a moggle kit?

    The moggle kit comes with an extra "G" key.

    They weren't selling too well, which is why so many people ended up with DS G keys in their last but one crap bags.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 01 April 2014, 18:09:25
    I'm interested in diying my first keyboard and I was thinking that the ergodox would be a good project. Is there a preferred dealer of kits in the forums? Also I'd like to get an aluminum case for it as well. Where would you guys recommend I purchase the components/kit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 01 April 2014, 18:12:08
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 01 April 2014, 18:09:25
    I'm interested in diying my first keyboard and I was thinking that the ergodox would be a good project. Is there a preferred dealer of kits in the forums? Also I'd like to get an aluminum case for it as well. Where would you guys recommend I purchase the components/kit.

    md``mk.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 01 April 2014, 18:54:53
    Is that a typo or am I misunderstanding something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 01 April 2014, 18:55:42
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 01 April 2014, 18:54:53
    Is that a typo or am I misunderstanding something?

    Massdrop and/or Mechanicalkeyboards.com

    Ignore pacifist
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 01 April 2014, 18:56:35
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 01 April 2014, 18:54:53
    Is that a typo or am I misunderstanding something?

    MassDrop

    MechanicalKeyboards.COM

    sorry for the shorthand
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 01 April 2014, 19:26:03
    ah i should have been able to figure that out. Does massdrop do ergo kits constantly. Because it seems like a missed the last one. If they do another one again soon I'll probably wait for that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 April 2014, 19:26:59
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 01 April 2014, 19:26:03
    Does massdrop do ergo kits constantly.

    It seems like they run the ergo-dox kit pretty often.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 01 April 2014, 19:29:17
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 01 April 2014, 19:26:03
    ah i should have been able to figure that out. Does massdrop do ergo kits constantly. Because it seems like a missed the last one. If they do another one again soon I'll probably wait for that.

    a lot

    probally their #1 hit
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ithinkimkorean on Tue, 01 April 2014, 21:00:29
    What screwdriver do I need for the kpad? It looks like the ones they give you to put together ikea furniture. I want to buy one off amazon. Can't find the size.


    Also, do I need to open it to take off the metal feet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 April 2014, 21:03:14
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Tue, 01 April 2014, 21:00:29
    What screwdriver do I need for the kpad? Also, do I need to open it to take off the metal feet?

    I think the KMAC stuff all uses the same size screws. Try looking for a 2.0mm hexdriver/hex key. That's what I'm using for my KMAC. And if it's like my board, yes you'll have to open it up to get the feet off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ithinkimkorean on Tue, 01 April 2014, 21:04:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 April 2014, 21:03:14
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Tue, 01 April 2014, 21:00:29
    What screwdriver do I need for the kpad? Also, do I need to open it to take off the metal feet?

    I think the KMAC stuff all uses the same size screws. Try looking for a 2.0mm hexdriver/hex key. That's what I'm using for my KMAC. And if it's like my KMAC LE, yes you'll have to open it up to get the feet off.

    So quick. Thanks  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Tue, 01 April 2014, 23:10:21
    Is there a difference between the actually switches that are used in plate mounted vs PCB mounted switches? (ex. would I be able to mount the same switches on PCB or plate? Were I to build my own keyboard, would I have to determine if I want PCB or plate mount prior to buying the switches?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 01 April 2014, 23:11:28
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 01 April 2014, 23:10:21
    Is there a difference between the actually switches that are used in plate mounted vs PCB mounted switches? (ex. would I be able to mount the same switches on PCB or plate? Were I to build my own keyboard, would I have to determine if I want PCB or plate mount prior to buying the switches?)

    PCB mount you can snip off the 2 plastic pins at the bottom and "convert" it to plate mount.

    Plate mount can't technically be put onto a PCB without a plate while maintaining the stability that the two pins are there for.

    So it only really matters if you're planning on building PCB mounted because you can't have plate mounted switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 23:13:43
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 01 April 2014, 23:10:21
    Is there a difference between the actually switches that are used in plate mounted vs PCB mounted switches? (ex. would I be able to mount the same switches on PCB or plate? Were I to build my own keyboard, would I have to determine if I want PCB or plate mount prior to buying the switches?)
    PCB mount switches have 2 little plastic nubs on them, but they can just be clipped off if you are using a plate to mount the switches on. So best bet it to just aim for PCB mount switches if you are not sure what you are using them for.

    Edit: Sifo beat me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jalberstone on Wed, 02 April 2014, 02:23:41
    What is the difference between cherry mx greens and whites besides the fact that whites have a softer click?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 02 April 2014, 05:04:44
    Where can I get a black replacement spacebar for a black Realforce 88u?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 02 April 2014, 06:31:49
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Wed, 02 April 2014, 02:23:41
    What is the difference between cherry mx greens and whites besides the fact that whites have a softer click?

    Apart from the color and the click, nothing.
    Some say there's extra lube on Whites (which seems to be the case on the MX Whites I have), but others, including Cherry themselves, say there is no extra lube. Could be a different plastic as well, but why the click is dampened on Whites is not really clear.

    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 02 April 2014, 05:04:44
    Where can I get a black replacement spacebar for a black Realforce 88u?

    Since EK doesn't offer any black sets for it, ebay, some Japanese auction sites, the classifieds etc. should be your best bet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:50:23
    Are resistors mandatory? My techkeys card and qazpad didn't need any and I just soldered the LEDs directly to the switch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:53:22
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:50:23
    Are resistors mandatory? My techkeys card and qazpad didn't need any and I just soldered the LEDs directly to the switch

    Because those had SMD resistors soldered on already? So yes...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:56:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:53:22
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:50:23
    Are resistors mandatory? My techkeys card and qazpad didn't need any and I just soldered the LEDs directly to the switch

    Because those had SMD resistors soldered on already? So yes...

    Did not know that

    are resisitors always SMD? Can they be throughhole?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:02:46
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:56:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:53:22
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 02 April 2014, 20:50:23
    Are resistors mandatory? My techkeys card and qazpad didn't need any and I just soldered the LEDs directly to the switch

    Because those had SMD resistors soldered on already? So yes...
    1) Are resisitors always SMD?
    2) Can they be through hole?

    1) No
    2) Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:21:34
    Has anyone done any force measurements for MY switches?

    And what are the white alps switches called described as follow, white stem, black body, clicky, almost remind me of a buckling spring sound, very springy sound. It said ALPS on the switch and I think had a letter and the number 21
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:46:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:21:34
    1) Has anyone done any force measurements for MY switches?

    2) And what are the white alps switches called described as follow, white stem, black body, clicky, almost remind me of a buckling spring sound, very springy sound. It said ALPS on the switch and I think had a letter and the number 21

    1) Check out this post on Geekhack (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12324.0)

    2) From what you're describing, they sound like Simplified White Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBM_White). But to be sure, can you check Mr. Interface's simulation links (http://www.mrinterface.com/) to see if your switches sound like the sounds he posted?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:49:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:46:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:21:34
    1) Has anyone done any force measurements for MY switches?

    2) And what are the white alps switches called described as follow, white stem, black body, clicky, almost remind me of a buckling spring sound, very springy sound. It said ALPS on the switch and I think had a letter and the number 21

    1) Check out this post on Geekhack (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12324.0)

    2) From what you're describing, they sound like Simplified White Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBM_White). But to be sure, can you check Mr. Interface's simulation links (http://mrinterface.com.ar) to see if your switches sound like the sounds he posted?

    Bro your link ****ed up

    http://www.mrinterface.com/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:50:42
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:49:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:46:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:21:34
    1) Has anyone done any force measurements for MY switches?

    2) And what are the white alps switches called described as follow, white stem, black body, clicky, almost remind me of a buckling spring sound, very springy sound. It said ALPS on the switch and I think had a letter and the number 21

    1) Check out this post on Geekhack (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12324.0)

    2) From what you're describing, they sound like Simplified White Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBM_White). But to be sure, can you check Mr. Interface's simulation links (http://mrinterface.com.ar) to see if your switches sound like the sounds he posted?

    Bro your link ****ed up

    http://www.mrinterface.com/

    Thanks mang <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:51:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:46:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:21:34
    1) Has anyone done any force measurements for MY switches?

    2) And what are the white alps switches called described as follow, white stem, black body, clicky, almost remind me of a buckling spring sound, very springy sound. It said ALPS on the switch and I think had a letter and the number 21

    1) Check out this post on Geekhack (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12324.0)

    2) From what you're describing, they sound like Simplified White Alps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBM_White). But to be sure, can you check Mr. Interface's simulation links (http://mrinterface.com.ar) to see if your switches sound like the sounds he posted?

    Thanks CPT! I'm falling asleep at the computer so I'll look into these more in 8 hours or so. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vovkab on Wed, 02 April 2014, 23:58:43
    Does anyone know where I can find keycaps set from official ergodox keyboard image?

    (http://ergodox.org/Images/ErgoDox_001.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 03 April 2014, 00:33:07
    Quote from: vovkab on Wed, 02 April 2014, 23:58:43
    Does anyone know where I can find keycaps set from official ergodox keyboard image?

    Show Image
    (http://ergodox.org/Images/ErgoDox_001.png)


    Welcome to Geekhack!

    Those look almost like DSA.

    You might try the Granite GB: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56354.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Thu, 03 April 2014, 02:27:38
    Is it possible to make a one hand ergodox. And for it to be the left hand? I'm thinking of an orbweaver alternative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 03 April 2014, 03:53:11
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Thu, 03 April 2014, 02:27:38
    Is it possible to make a one hand ergodox. And for it to be the left hand? I'm thinking of an orbweaver alternative.

    I made one a few weeks ago. It works great with soarer's firmware. I've been meaning to post pictures sometime.


    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 03 April 2014, 00:33:07
    Quote from: vovkab on Wed, 02 April 2014, 23:58:43
    Does anyone know where I can find keycaps set from official ergodox keyboard image?

    Show Image
    (http://ergodox.org/Images/ErgoDox_001.png)


    Welcome to Geekhack!

    Those look almost like DSA.

    You might try the Granite GB: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56354.0

    The keyset in that render was never actually produced, though the model is closest to SP's DSA
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: delobe on Thu, 03 April 2014, 05:15:02
    Does anyone have a picture of the inside of their edsyn soldapult? Just got one wanted to check I wasn't missing anything. There's just a simple metal pole inside. Also, maintenance?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 April 2014, 06:33:55
    Quote from: delobe on Thu, 03 April 2014, 05:15:02
    1) Does anyone have a picture of the inside of their edsyn soldapult?

    2) Maintenance?

    1) I can't find a decent picture through a quick Google search. Picture I did find won't open up to the proper size. You can try searching for pictures. The model number is DS017. I did find this Edsyn video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVsz2zzDJaw) where he disassembles the tool.

    2) Check out this post from mkawa (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.msg940113#msg940113) and this other post from mkawa (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.msg1052622#msg1052622). This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdqhpF4Q7tw) looks ok as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: delobe on Thu, 03 April 2014, 07:04:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 April 2014, 06:33:55
    Quote from: delobe on Thu, 03 April 2014, 05:15:02
    1) Does anyone have a picture of the inside of their edsyn soldapult?

    2) Maintenance?

    1) I can't find a decent picture through a quick Google search. Picture I did find won't open up to the proper size. You can try searching for pictures. The model number is DS017. I did find this Edsyn video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVsz2zzDJaw) where he disassembles the tool.

    2) Check out this post from mkawa (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.msg940113#msg940113) and this other post from mkawa (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48030.msg1052622#msg1052622). This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdqhpF4Q7tw) looks ok as well.

    Found a link on youtube to my soldapult from yours, many thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 03 April 2014, 07:04:35
    How much for a Ruby red topre brobot, CC and gas mask respectively?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 03 April 2014, 07:07:09
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 03 April 2014, 07:04:35
    How much for a Ruby red topre brobot, CC and gas mask respectively?

    We have a seperate price check thread in the classifieds, but for CCs you should check the Clack info thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 03 April 2014, 09:59:49
    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 03 April 2014, 00:33:07
    Quote from: vovkab on Wed, 02 April 2014, 23:58:43
    Does anyone know where I can find keycaps set from official ergodox keyboard image?

    Show Image
    (http://ergodox.org/Images/ErgoDox_001.png)


    Welcome to Geekhack!

    Those look almost like DSA.

    You might try the Granite GB: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56354.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56354.0)


    I thought in that yesterday when I read this post, but I do not want to be accused to advertise it, so I prefer to say nothing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 03 April 2014, 10:00:45
    That looks to be a rendered image. I don't think those caps exist. Granite may be best bet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 03 April 2014, 10:19:31
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 03 April 2014, 09:59:49
    I thought in that yesterday when I read this post, but I do not want to be accused to advertise it, so I prefer to say nothing.

    You are allowed to sell things in the classifieds, it is not a commercial group buy (apart for SP) and it is not even your group buy. There is no "hidden advertising" you could have done or profited from.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 03 April 2014, 10:22:45
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 03 April 2014, 10:19:31
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 03 April 2014, 09:59:49
    I thought in that yesterday when I read this post, but I do not want to be accused to advertise it, so I prefer to say nothing.

    You are allowed to sell things in the classifieds, it is not a commercial group buy (apart for SP) and it is not even your group buy. There is no "hidden advertising" you could have done or profited from.


    Yeah that is correct sir. Thank you for your feedback. It cleared my thoughts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Thu, 03 April 2014, 18:02:45
    I'm sure many people have asked before me, but can someone point me in the direction to find some 3mm led's that work with boards such as an LZ-GH? without much modding (or trimming the bulb)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 03 April 2014, 18:03:43
    Quote from: Meiosis on Thu, 03 April 2014, 18:02:45
    I'm sure many people have asked before me, but can someone point me in the direction to find some 3mm led's that work with boards such as an LZ-GH? without much modding (or trimming the bulb)

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/321332751221?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 April 2014, 18:28:32
    Quote from: Meiosis on Thu, 03 April 2014, 18:02:45
    I'm sure many people have asked before me, but can someone point me in the direction to find some 3mm led's that work with boards such as an LZ-GH? without much modding (or trimming the bulb)

    You can see more selection with this search. It may be mobile specific cause I'm on my phone.

    http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=2x3x4mm+led&isNewKw=1&_pgn=1&epp=24&itemId=&isRefine=true&mfs=GOCLK&acimp=0&sqp=2x3x4mm+led&trksid=p2056088.m2428.l1313.TR0.TRC0.X2x3x4mm+led
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 03 April 2014, 19:08:48
    is the only way to open MYs is through taking off the whole thing or can I open it from the top?

    figured it out
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 April 2014, 19:54:25
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 03 April 2014, 18:28:32
    Quote from: Meiosis on Thu, 03 April 2014, 18:02:45
    I'm sure many people have asked before me, but can someone point me in the direction to find some 3mm led's that work with boards such as an LZ-GH? without much modding (or trimming the bulb)

    You can see more selection with this search. It may be mobile specific cause I'm on my phone.

    http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=2x3x4mm+led&isNewKw=1&_pgn=1&epp=24&itemId=&isRefine=true&mfs=GOCLK&acimp=0&sqp=2x3x4mm+led&trksid=p2056088.m2428.l1313.TR0.TRC0.X2x3x4mm+led

    Two more things to note:
    - there are crystal clear and diffused style led's there. Choose what you think you will enjoy.
    - they will come in either 2.x forward voltage (red, orange, yellow) or 3.x forward voltage (white, blue, green, pink$$). The difference is that they require different resistors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 03 April 2014, 20:28:12
    I believe there was a third range which was high 1.x to low 2.x forward voltages.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 April 2014, 20:37:54
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 03 April 2014, 20:28:12
    I believe there was a third range which was high 1.x to low 2.x forward voltages.

    Ya, there may be a third range.  I remember there being some in the high 1s and low 2s, so for simplicity I just put 2.x.  I think everything I bought was >=3.2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 03 April 2014, 21:23:44
    orange / red are usually 1.7 Vf
    yellow amber can vary, but are usually in the 2.0 Vf
    White/blue are usually 3.1 vf to 3.4 vf

    they don't necessarily require different resistors, but you can use ones that will make them brighter if you like. At that point, your KB will be VERY bright, so I say to calculate a value and stick with it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:00:55
    I'm planning on relubing my vintage blacks and I wanted to know the most effective method of removing old lube on the stems. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:03:23
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:00:55
    I'm planning on relubing my vintage blacks and I wanted to know the most effective method of removing old lube on the stems. Thanks!

    I would just use a paper towel and re apply.  The bit of residue shouldn't hurt anything.  If you are really worried about it you could use a soak of as high of percentage as you can find of rubbing alcohol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:07:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:03:23
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:00:55
    I'm planning on relubing my vintage blacks and I wanted to know the most effective method of removing old lube on the stems. Thanks!

    I would just use a paper towel and re apply.  The bit of residue shouldn't hurt anything.  If you are really worried about it you could use a soak of as high of percentage as you can find of rubbing alcohol.

    Not sure I would recommend soaking the switch bases, only the stems.  The leafs in the switch bases may corrode if you soak them.  I know they will if you soak them in water (there are pictures on here somewhere).  You are taking a risk (IMO) if you soak the bases in alcohol...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:13:43
    Thanks for the replies! I'm actually using new housings. I will probably go with the cloth rubbing off method. I asked because I saw someone here leave the stems soaking in water with something else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:16:16
    I wouldn't be afraid to soak the housings in alcohol for 10 to 15 minutes before drying.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:43:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:13:43
    Thanks for the replies! I'm actually using new housings. I will probably go with the cloth rubbing off method. I asked because I saw someone here leave the stems soaking in water with something else.

    won't new housings negate the benefits of vintage blacks??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 04 April 2014, 01:11:58
    Is there any place to get Costar stabilizers since WASD is out and I don't feel like paying $15 or so to get 5 Cherry plate mounted stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 04 April 2014, 01:15:08
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 04 April 2014, 01:11:58
    Is there any place to get Costar stabilizers since WASD is out and I don't feel like paying $15 or so to get 5 Cherry plate mounted stabilizers?

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/2-filco-black-stabilizers.asp

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/4-filco-white-stabilizers.asp
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 04 April 2014, 01:20:58
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 04 April 2014, 01:15:08
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 04 April 2014, 01:11:58
    Is there any place to get Costar stabilizers since WASD is out and I don't feel like paying $15 or so to get 5 Cherry plate mounted stabilizers?

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/2-filco-black-stabilizers.asp

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/4-filco-white-stabilizers.asp

    Haha, that's even more expensive than getting the 5 sets of PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers.  I found them on MechanicalKeyboards.com (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=317) as well, but $5.50 for a pair without a stabilizer wire is a joke and obscenely overpriced for a $0.03 piece of plastic.  I found a few on Taobao.  At this rate, it would be cheaper to buy a bunch and have them shipped to me here in the US than to source it locally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:16:30
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:43:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:13:43
    Thanks for the replies! I'm actually using new housings. I will probably go with the cloth rubbing off method. I asked because I saw someone here leave the stems soaking in water with something else.

    won't new housings negate the benefits of vintage blacks??

    I thought it was the stem that made the difference O_O.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:19:59
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:16:30
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:43:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:13:43
    Thanks for the replies! I'm actually using new housings. I will probably go with the cloth rubbing off method. I asked because I saw someone here leave the stems soaking in water with something else.

    won't new housings negate the benefits of vintage blacks??

    I thought it was the stem that made the difference O_O.

    Guess there is only one way to find out.....try it and see what happens :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:20:59
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:16:30
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:43:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 03 April 2014, 22:13:43
    Thanks for the replies! I'm actually using new housings. I will probably go with the cloth rubbing off method. I asked because I saw someone here leave the stems soaking in water with something else.

    won't new housings negate the benefits of vintage blacks??

    I thought it was the stem that made the difference O_O.

    According to the Corsair Cherry Q&A (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54697.0), the stem materials haven't changed. So I think what affects vintage black is the change in molding processes and the finish those molds leave. But does that mean that the housing material has stayed the same? And did the molding process change the friction points on the stem? I'm not sure.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:19:59
    Guess there is only one way to find out.....try it and see what happens :D

    ^This
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:22:38
    I will update you in a couple of weeks when I try it out :).

    Edit- New question

    How the heck do you guys remove the female pin header out of the plastic housing? I'm having a hard time... :-X

    This is what I'm referring to:

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/140910386490?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 04 April 2014, 18:38:22
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:22:38
    I will update you in a couple of weeks when I try it out :).

    Edit- New question

    How the heck do you guys remove the female pin header out of the plastic housing? I'm having a hard time... :-X

    This is what I'm referring to:

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/140910386490?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    I used flush cutters.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nuclearsandwich on Fri, 04 April 2014, 18:47:45
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:22:38
    I will update you in a couple of weeks when I try it out :).

    Edit- New question

    How the heck do you guys remove the female pin header out of the plastic housing? I'm having a hard time... :-X

    This is what I'm referring to:

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/140910386490?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    I used a small wirecutters to cut them into individual pins with the housing still attached. Then held the pin in a needlenose pliers and gripped the housing in the cutters and pushed directly down. This pushed the housing off of the socket and the only time I broke a pin was when I wasn't pushing straight down. If I had a second needlenose I'd probably use it instead of the cutters to alleviate the low risk of cutting the socket in half.

    I'll try to post a video like Swill's when I get home.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 04 April 2014, 20:55:36
    Ya, my method is by no means perfect. I tried initially with a blade and I ended up cutting the socket. I had end cutters handy and they worked pretty well, so that's what I used. I think pressing through the housing could work, but only in one direction. I think that's what nuclearsandwich did. Instead of holding the housing with cutters, you may be able to place the strip over a small opening and press into the void. If I tried that, I would use a small box vice I have so I could adjust the gap. Nuclearsandwich, do you think that would work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 04 April 2014, 22:27:12
    Yeah...I used flush cutters, but I was like how does everyone do so many?! It's extremely timely to do. Thanks for the input!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 05 April 2014, 07:04:17
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 04 April 2014, 22:27:12
    Yeah...I used flush cutters, but I was like how does everyone do so many?! It's extremely timely to do. Thanks for the input!

    Ya I did like 400 and it took me like 3 hours and I was movin.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mashby on Sat, 05 April 2014, 08:48:04
    Is there any way to disable/bypass the USB hub on the Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2?

    I'd like to be able to use it with mobile devices, but I'm unable to unless I use a powered hub. I know the Professional 1 came without the USB hub, so I'm hoping there's some (hopefully simple) method of bypassing it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:24:42
    Quote from: mashby on Sat, 05 April 2014, 08:48:04
    Is there any way to disable/bypass the USB hub on the Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2?

    I'd like to be able to use it with mobile devices, but I'm unable to unless I use a powered hub. I know the Professional 1 came without the USB hub, so I'm hoping there's some (hopefully simple) method of bypassing it.

    Not that it will help anytime soon but have you seen Hasu's replacement controller for the HHKB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:55:42
    How can I get my avatars background transparent? I want to use this picture, which does have a transparent background but it just turns black. It is transparent when uploaded to imgur, but once I either upload it to GH or specify avatar by URL it just turns the transparency black. Help :(

    http://i.imgur.com/0rAwCqK.png
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Sat, 05 April 2014, 11:25:48
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:55:42
    How can I get my avatars background transparent? I want to use this picture, which does have a transparent background but it just turns black. It is transparent when uploaded to imgur, but once I either upload it to GH or specify avatar by URL it just turns the transparency black. Help :(

    http://i.imgur.com/0rAwCqK.png

    Try using "Upload an Avatar" instead of linking the URL to imgur. That's how I got mine transparent.

    Oops. missed the part where you said you tried uploading directly. Lemme try and steal the pic for a sec

    Edit: Success! Your image had to be automatically cropped as it was too big -- which filled the transparency with black.

    Here's the 150x150 version:
    (http://puu.sh/7WYPf/990aa2a74a.png)

    More centered version?
    (http://puu.sh/7WYYN/844db96cb6.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 05 April 2014, 18:11:43
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 05 April 2014, 11:25:48
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:55:42
    How can I get my avatars background transparent? I want to use this picture, which does have a transparent background but it just turns black. It is transparent when uploaded to imgur, but once I either upload it to GH or specify avatar by URL it just turns the transparency black. Help :(

    http://i.imgur.com/0rAwCqK.png

    Try using "Upload an Avatar" instead of linking the URL to imgur. That's how I got mine transparent.

    Oops. missed the part where you said you tried uploading directly. Lemme try and steal the pic for a sec

    Edit: Success! Your image had to be automatically cropped as it was too big -- which filled the transparency with black.

    Here's the 150x150 version:
    Show Image
    (http://puu.sh/7WYPf/990aa2a74a.png)


    More centered version?
    Show Image
    (http://puu.sh/7WYYN/844db96cb6.png)

    YAY! :D :D :D :D
    (http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/dayum.gif)

    I spent quite a few hours trying to figure it out and I just couldn't, thanks so much :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rewind on Sat, 05 April 2014, 18:59:35
    Do IMSTO Cherry profile caps have the same profile as BSP/GMK?

    Would it look good if mixed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 05 April 2014, 19:03:57
    Quote from: Rewind on Sat, 05 April 2014, 18:59:35
    Do IMSTO Cherry profile caps have the same profile as BSP/GMK?

    Would it look good if mixed?

    Not sure if Imstos caps are actually Cherry profile, but GMK and BSP caps both are Cherry profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 05 April 2014, 19:05:22
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 05 April 2014, 19:03:57
    Quote from: Rewind on Sat, 05 April 2014, 18:59:35
    Do IMSTO Cherry profile caps have the same profile as BSP/GMK?

    Would it look good if mixed?

    Not sure if Imstos caps are actually Cherry profile, but GMK and BSP caps both are Cherry profile.

    IMSTO's PBT caps are Cherry profile as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 05 April 2014, 22:08:39
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 05 April 2014, 07:04:17
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 04 April 2014, 22:27:12
    Yeah...I used flush cutters, but I was like how does everyone do so many?! It's extremely timely to do. Thanks for the input!

    Ya I did like 400 and it took me like 3 hours and I was movin.

    I can't imagine how long it's going to take to sticker and lube switches...thanks again for the help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 06 April 2014, 01:31:56
    Quote from: Rewind on Sat, 05 April 2014, 18:59:35
    Do IMSTO Cherry profile caps have the same profile as BSP/GMK?

    Would it look good if mixed?
    imsto PBT will have identical look like BSP/GMK as you see in my BSP / Imsto mix
    The red ESC is BSP PBT, the rest are imsto PBT Cherry profile.
    [attachimg=1]
    The obvious difference between imsto vs BSP vs GMK is the roughness on the surface.
    Imsto PBT is rougher, so I do feel imsto PBT is less slippery to type on comparing to BST / Cherry classic PBT.
    Actually, imsto PBT is my first and foremost recommendation for anyone who is looking for a decent Cherry MX PBT keycap set.  Anyway, it is just my personal experience, maybe other people may have different feelings.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 06 April 2014, 01:40:23
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sun, 06 April 2014, 01:31:56
    Quote from: Rewind on Sat, 05 April 2014, 18:59:35
    Do IMSTO Cherry profile caps have the same profile as BSP/GMK?

    Would it look good if mixed?
    imsto PBT will have identical look like BSP/GMK as you see in my BSP / Imsto mix
    The red ESC is BSP PBT, the rest are imsto PBT Cherry profile.
    (Attachment Link)
    The obvious difference between imsto vs BSP vs GMK is the roughness on the surface.
    Imsto PBT is rougher, so I do feel imsto PBT is less slippery to type on comparing to BST / Cherry classic PBT.
    Actually, imsto PBT is my first and foremost recommendation for anyone who is looking for a decent Cherry MX PBT keycap set.  Anyway, it is just my personal experience, maybe other people may have different feelings.

    IMSTO's Cherry PBT caps are some of my favorites. I have them on three of my boards right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Sun, 06 April 2014, 19:32:18
    I have a TKL Filco and want to start using Caps Lock as my Control, but the key doesn't feel very good because it has no stabiliser. Can I fit in my own stabiliser easily or not? Also, would a keyboard with an off-centre Caps fix my issue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 06 April 2014, 20:34:41
    Quote from: cannonking on Sun, 06 April 2014, 19:32:18
    1. I have a TKL Filco and want to start using Caps Lock as my Control, but the key doesn't feel very good because it has no stabiliser.
    2. Can I fit in my own stabiliser easily or not?
    3. Also, would a keyboard with an off-centre Caps fix my issue?

    1. Please elaborate. Is the key somehow harder to press? What exactly is the problem? If it does not depress evenly, I can't really replicate that problem.
    2. No, you would need a special plate and keycap.
    3. If my suspicion is true, it would make it worse.

    Where is your pinky on the keycap? Rather centered or more left/right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 06 April 2014, 20:38:17
    Yeah, my filcos capslock isn't wobbly or uneven at all  :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Sun, 06 April 2014, 21:51:53
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 06 April 2014, 20:34:41
    Quote from: cannonking on Sun, 06 April 2014, 19:32:18
    1. I have a TKL Filco and want to start using Caps Lock as my Control, but the key doesn't feel very good because it has no stabiliser.
    2. Can I fit in my own stabiliser easily or not?
    3. Also, would a keyboard with an off-centre Caps fix my issue?

    1. Please elaborate. Is the key somehow harder to press? What exactly is the problem? If it does not depress evenly, I can't really replicate that problem.
    2. No, you would need a special plate and keycap.
    3. If my suspicion is true, it would make it worse.

    Where is your pinky on the keycap? Rather centered or more left/right?
    My pinky is on the left side. The key feels a bit mushy, it seems like it's because the left side of the key goes down before the right side, and when I bottom out the right side doesn't always touch the bottom. If I press the key in the opposite place on the right side, or in the middle, it feels fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 07 April 2014, 03:51:17
    Quote from: cannonking on Sun, 06 April 2014, 21:51:53
    My pinky is on the left side. The key feels a bit mushy, it seems like it's because the left side of the key goes down before the right side, and when I bottom out the right side doesn't always touch the bottom. If I press the key in the opposite place on the right side, or in the middle, it feels fine.

    Oh so if it's more to the left an off-center capslock would actually help. You can't really mod a Filco to have one though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mashby on Mon, 07 April 2014, 08:48:21
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:24:42
    Not that it will help anytime soon but have you seen Hasu's replacement controller for the HHKB?

    I did, but it was unclear if it made use of, or bypassed the USB hub.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 07 April 2014, 08:52:01
    Quote from: mashby on Mon, 07 April 2014, 08:48:21
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:24:42
    Not that it will help anytime soon but have you seen Hasu's replacement controller for the HHKB?

    I did, but it was unclear if it made use of, or bypassed the USB hub.

    It's a complete replacement for the entire controller board, as in you take out the original controller board that has usb hub and replace it with hasu's board that has no hub! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 07 April 2014, 10:30:09
    Any way to make a 45g RF *thock* louder?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 April 2014, 10:32:13
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 07 April 2014, 10:30:09
    Any way to make a 45g RF *thock* louder?

    The "thockiest" Topre I've ever tried was mkawa's 10AE. That's because he had used the board so much that the stock lube had worn away. Other than that I'm not sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 07 April 2014, 11:11:33
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 07 April 2014, 10:30:09
    Any way to make a 45g RF *thock* louder?

    Take it apart, use rubbing alcohol to remove all lube  :eek: , put it back together, and prepare your jimmies for rustling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 April 2014, 12:03:26
    Quote from: mashby on Sat, 05 April 2014, 08:48:04
    Is there any way to disable/bypass the USB hub on the Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2?

    I'd like to be able to use it with mobile devices, but I'm unable to unless I use a powered hub. I know the Professional 1 came without the USB hub, so I'm hoping there's some (hopefully simple) method of bypassing it.

    I PMed Bro Caps who suggested this: Since the USB hub is hardwired, you might be able to de-solder the hub and bypass it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:30:19
    Where can I get Poker 2 and Realforce replacement screws online? And where can I get one of these USB things? Mine is borked...

    (http://i57.tinypic.com/s6hdsi.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:35:28
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:30:19
    Where can I get Poker 2 and Realforce replacement screws online? And where can I get one of these USB things? Mine is borked...

    Show Image
    (http://i57.tinypic.com/s6hdsi.jpg)


    You can get those connectors on ebay, for example these ones (http://www.ebay.de/itm/10pcs-5-Pin-Female-Mini-USB-SMD-Socket-Connector-180-D-/190487895070?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c59f69c1e) look like they would fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:38:11
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:35:28
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:30:19
    Where can I get Poker 2 and Realforce replacement screws online? And where can I get one of these USB things? Mine is borked...

    Show Image
    (http://i57.tinypic.com/s6hdsi.jpg)


    You can get those connectors on ebay, for example these ones (http://www.ebay.de/itm/10pcs-5-Pin-Female-Mini-USB-SMD-Socket-Connector-180-D-/190487895070?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c59f69c1e) look like they would fit.

    Thanks. :) Are you sure it will work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:43:22
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:30:19
    Where can I get Poker 2 and Realforce replacement screws online?

    Think the Poker 2 screws would be the same size as the Poker X and Pure which is listed in the OP. Realforce screw sizes can be found in this post by limmy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33249.msg627095#msg627095).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:44:19
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:38:11
    Thanks. :) Are you sure it will work?

    I would say 90% sure. They look identical to yours.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:52:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:43:22
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:30:19
    Where can I get Poker 2 and Realforce replacement screws online?

    Think the Poker 2 screws would be the same size as the Poker X and Pure which is listed in the OP. Realforce screw sizes can be found in this post by limmy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33249.msg627095#msg627095).

    Nice, thanks.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:44:19
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:38:11
    Thanks. :) Are you sure it will work?

    I would say 90% sure. They look identical to yours.

    Okay, can anyone confirm?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 10:57:20
    Would the GON kitty pad housing fit a Leopold 210tp PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:02:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 10:57:20
    Would the GON kitty pad housing fit a Leopold 210tp PCB?

    I only took a quick glance but it looks like the bezels look different so I will guess no.

    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:52:22
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:44:19
    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 08:38:11
    Thanks. :) Are you sure it will work?

    I would say 90% sure. They look identical to yours.

    Okay, can anyone confirm?

    Looks similar to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:22:15
    http://www.cmstore-usa.com/mechanical-key-switch-demo-board/

    How close does each switch feel to the 'real thing', and can I easily (without soldering) take out the spring from the brown/blue/red and test an ergo clear with it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:25:44
    Quote from: cannonking on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:22:15
    1. How close does each switch feel to the 'real thing'
    2. Can I easily (without soldering) take out the spring from the brown/blue/red and test an ergo clear with it?

    1. It's the closest you will get in terms of switch testers.
    2. You will need to disassemble the case (you don't have to but it makes things easier) but you don't need to desolder. For an Ergo Clear you should get Krytox, too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:36:43
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:25:44
    Quote from: cannonking on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:22:15
    1. How close does each switch feel to the 'real thing'
    2. Can I easily (without soldering) take out the spring from the brown/blue/red and test an ergo clear with it?

    1. It's the closest you will get in terms of switch testers.
    2. You will need to disassemble the case (you don't have to but it makes things easier) but you don't need to desolder. For an Ergo Clear you should get Krytox, too.
    Thanks, you've been very helpful :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 08 April 2014, 16:36:18
    Quote from: cannonking on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:36:43
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:25:44
    Quote from: cannonking on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:22:15
    1. How close does each switch feel to the 'real thing'
    2. Can I easily (without soldering) take out the spring from the brown/blue/red and test an ergo clear with it?

    1. It's the closest you will get in terms of switch testers.
    2. You will need to disassemble the case (you don't have to but it makes things easier) but you don't need to desolder. For an Ergo Clear you should get Krytox, too.
    Thanks, you've been very helpful :).

    To be a bit more specific about 2., I'd recommend this option from techkeys.us (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant), and even more specifically the Thick formula.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:56:51
    I just received a frosty flake in the mail. (Toasted and tested version.) Can I just drop it into my QFR? Or do I need to flash firmwares or something. Can someone link me the instructions if there are any?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:59:14
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:56:51
    I just received a frosty flake in the mail. (Toasted and tested version.) Can I just drop it into my QFR? Or do I need to flash firmwares or something. Can someone link me the instructions if there are any?

    I'm pretty sure you still need to desolder the other controller and solder on your Frosty Flake. Info on the Frosty Flake can be found on the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Costar_replacement_controllers).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:04:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:59:14
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:56:51
    I just received a frosty flake in the mail. (Toasted and tested version.) Can I just drop it into my QFR? Or do I need to flash firmwares or something. Can someone link me the instructions if there are any?

    I'm pretty sure you still need to desolder the other controller and solder on your Frosty Flake. Info on the Frosty Flake can be found on the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Costar_replacement_controllers).

    Are they not socket mounted??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:13:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:04:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:59:14
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:56:51
    I just received a frosty flake in the mail. (Toasted and tested version.) Can I just drop it into my QFR? Or do I need to flash firmwares or something. Can someone link me the instructions if there are any?

    I'm pretty sure you still need to desolder the other controller and solder on your Frosty Flake. Info on the Frosty Flake can be found on the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Costar_replacement_controllers).

    Are they not socket mounted??

    iirc they're socket mounted

    i too believed they were soldered but i guess not
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:16:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:04:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:59:14
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:56:51
    I just received a frosty flake in the mail. (Toasted and tested version.) Can I just drop it into my QFR? Or do I need to flash firmwares or something. Can someone link me the instructions if there are any?

    I'm pretty sure you still need to desolder the other controller and solder on your Frosty Flake. Info on the Frosty Flake can be found on the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Costar_replacement_controllers).

    Are they not socket mounted??

    I'm not 100% certain...That's why I said "I'm pretty sure".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:17:20
    You pull them right out, no desoldering required. They are a bit of a pain to get out and it is scary at first, I sort of pulled from each corner and rocked it back and forth while pulling upwards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 01:40:28
    The controller is soldered and has pins, it's ready to go into my keyboard but I don't even know how to program it. Is there some instructions somewhere? I can't find any.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 07:49:04
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 01:40:28
    The controller is soldered and has pins, it's ready to go into my keyboard but I don't even know how to program it. Is there some instructions somewhere? I can't find any.

    Did you click on the link I posted for you before? There's two links on where you can get firmware.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:59:14
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:56:51
    I just received a frosty flake in the mail. (Toasted and tested version.) Can I just drop it into my QFR? Or do I need to flash firmwares or something. Can someone link me the instructions if there are any?

    I'm pretty sure you still need to desolder the other controller and solder on your Frosty Flake. Info on the Frosty Flake can be found on the DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Costar_replacement_controllers).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 09 April 2014, 10:04:49
    Just use metalliqaz' firmware on that link
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:12:58
    The info on the controller is rather inaccessible I feel. Like for instance need to use a magnet to enter boot mode, also need to install flip and the proper atmega drivers. I'm sure this info is somewhere on this site its just hard to find. Once I actually have time to set it up I may make a beginners guide. Thanks for the help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:19:12
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:12:58
    The info on the controller is rather inaccessible I feel. Like for instance need to use a magnet to enter boot mode, also need to install flip and the proper atmega drivers. I'm sure this info is somewhere on this site its just hard to find. Once I actually have time to set it up I may make a beginners guide. Thanks for the help!

    its quite easy tbh
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:30:28
    Well for someone completely unfamiliar with custom controllers It would have been nice to have a step by step guide. Seems like by asking questions in this thread and on OCN and via pm's I've figured it out, and agree that it is incredibly simple, but a guide would be nice for others like me who have no idea what they're doing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:31:49
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:30:28
    Well for someone completely unfamiliar with custom controllers It would have been nice to have a step by step guide. Seems like by asking questions in this thread and on OCN and via pm's I've figured it out, and agree that it is incredibly simple, but a guide would be nice for others like me who have no idea what they're doing.

    I have like 0 knowledge

    quick google search how to use flip to load hex answered everything
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:37:51
    What are the black Realforce screws called?

    Measurements thanks to limmy:

    diameter 2.20mm
    length thread 7.84mm
    length total 9.53mm
    head diameter 3.83mm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:40:12
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:37:51
    What are the black Realforce screws called?

    Measurements thanks to limmy:

    diameter 2.20mm
    length thread 7.84mm
    length total 9.53mm
    head diameter 3.83mm

    Aren't they just phillips head M2 5mm screws? Not sure what you mean.

    Quote from: limmy on Wed, 25 July 2012, 19:12:25
    The screw I purchased to replace the broken one is M2 5mm screw.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:41:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:40:12
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:37:51
    What are the black Realforce screws called?

    Measurements thanks to limmy:

    diameter 2.20mm
    length thread 7.84mm
    length total 9.53mm
    head diameter 3.83mm

    Aren't they just phillips head screws? Not sure what you mean.

    Screws usually have names? M2-4mm for example. I'm wondering about the black screws, not the silver ones. :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:42:09
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:41:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:40:12
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:37:51
    What are the black Realforce screws called?

    Measurements thanks to limmy:

    diameter 2.20mm
    length thread 7.84mm
    length total 9.53mm
    head diameter 3.83mm

    Aren't they just phillips head screws? Not sure what you mean.

    Screws usually have names? M2-4mm for example. I'm wondering about the black screws, not the silver ones. :p

    Check out my ninja edit  :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:43:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:42:09
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:41:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:40:12
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:37:51
    What are the black Realforce screws called?

    Measurements thanks to limmy:

    diameter 2.20mm
    length thread 7.84mm
    length total 9.53mm
    head diameter 3.83mm

    Aren't they just phillips head screws? Not sure what you mean.

    Screws usually have names? M2-4mm for example. I'm wondering about the black screws, not the silver ones. :p

    Check out my ninja edit  :-X

    "I replaced the broken white screw with M2 screw and it works fine. (black screw doesn't seem to be standard size screw, but the white one is. White one is M2.)"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:45:16
    Dude just read 4 posts up, I just fixed it to answer your question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:48:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:45:16
    Dude just read 4 posts up, I just fixed it to answer your question.

    No... The black ones aren't M2-5mm. http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-pcs-M2-x-5mm-Philips-Head-Screw-/291006595279?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c15840cf - Those are M2's. The black ones aren't...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:56:34
    I'm apparently filled with reading comprehension fail lately. Sorry.

    What about this: http://www.amazon.com/200Pcs-Round-9-5mm-Self-Tapping-Screws/dp/B00HAZRWAE

    M2.2 x 9.5mm

    M is the Outer diameter, then its a length. The M2.2 x 9.5mm seems to fit the measurements limmy gave unless I'm missing something again.

    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:37:51
    What are the black Realforce screws called?

    Measurements thanks to limmy:

    diameter 2.20mm
    length thread 7.84mm
    length total 9.53mm
    head diameter 3.83mm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:59:10
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:31:49
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:30:28
    Well for someone completely unfamiliar with custom controllers It would have been nice to have a step by step guide. Seems like by asking questions in this thread and on OCN and via pm's I've figured it out, and agree that it is incredibly simple, but a guide would be nice for others like me who have no idea what they're doing.

    I have like 0 knowledge

    quick google search how to use flip to load hex answered everything

    So are you reallyopposed to making information more accessible and beginner friendly? Is this some sort of elitist attitude problem or are you just out to make me feel stupid because I didn't know what and AVR or Flip was? Not exactly the response I expected TBH.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:01:02
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:59:10
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:31:49
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:30:28
    Well for someone completely unfamiliar with custom controllers It would have been nice to have a step by step guide. Seems like by asking questions in this thread and on OCN and via pm's I've figured it out, and agree that it is incredibly simple, but a guide would be nice for others like me who have no idea what they're doing.

    I have like 0 knowledge

    quick google search how to use flip to load hex answered everything

    So are you reallyopposed to making information more accessible and beginner friendly? Is this some sort of elitist attitude problem or are you just out to make me feel stupid because I didn't know what and AVR or Flip was? Not exactly the response I expected TBH.

    Im saying that there are plenty of beginner guides for flip already on the internet and google can answer them much better than this thread can
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:07:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:56:34
    I'm apparently filled with reading comprehension fail lately. Sorry.

    What about this: http://www.amazon.com/200Pcs-Round-9-5mm-Self-Tapping-Screws/dp/B00HAZRWAE

    M2.2 x 9.5mm

    M is the Outer diameter, then its a length. The M2.2 x 9.5mm seems to fit the measurements limmy gave unless I'm missing something again.

    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:37:51
    What are the black Realforce screws called?

    Measurements thanks to limmy:

    diameter 2.20mm
    length thread 7.84mm
    length total 9.53mm
    head diameter 3.83mm

    Haha, you confused me hard. :P Thanks, I'll pick up a few of those screws then. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:09:20
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:07:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:56:34
    I'm apparently filled with reading comprehension fail lately. Sorry.

    What about this: http://www.amazon.com/200Pcs-Round-9-5mm-Self-Tapping-Screws/dp/B00HAZRWAE

    M2.2 x 9.5mm

    M is the Outer diameter, then its a length. The M2.2 x 9.5mm seems to fit the measurements limmy gave unless I'm missing something again.

    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:37:51
    What are the black Realforce screws called?

    Measurements thanks to limmy:

    diameter 2.20mm
    length thread 7.84mm
    length total 9.53mm
    head diameter 3.83mm

    Haha, you confused me hard. :P Thanks, I'll pick up a few of those screws then. :)

    It's totally my mistake. Been sick lately and it's aggravating me. I apologize.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:14:31
    It's cool, it's cool. Don't worry about it, mang. :) Feeling under the weather myself, just got a fever...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:19:31
    Haha...  "RTFM" - Pacifist  :P

    This video that metalliqaz did will probably be helpful.  You only really care about the contents from 4:00 on.

    t=237


    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:01:02
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:59:10
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:31:49
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:30:28
    Well for someone completely unfamiliar with custom controllers It would have been nice to have a step by step guide. Seems like by asking questions in this thread and on OCN and via pm's I've figured it out, and agree that it is incredibly simple, but a guide would be nice for others like me who have no idea what they're doing.

    I have like 0 knowledge

    quick google search how to use flip to load hex answered everything

    So are you reallyopposed to making information more accessible and beginner friendly? Is this some sort of elitist attitude problem or are you just out to make me feel stupid because I didn't know what and AVR or Flip was? Not exactly the response I expected TBH.

    Im saying that there are plenty of beginner guides for flip already on the internet and google can answer them much better than this thread can
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:55:19
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:19:31
    Haha...  "RTFM" - Pacifist  :P

    This video that metalliqaz did will probably be helpful.  You only really care about the contents from 4:00 on.

    t=237


    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:01:02
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:59:10
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:31:49
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:30:28
    Well for someone completely unfamiliar with custom controllers It would have been nice to have a step by step guide. Seems like by asking questions in this thread and on OCN and via pm's I've figured it out, and agree that it is incredibly simple, but a guide would be nice for others like me who have no idea what they're doing.

    I have like 0 knowledge

    quick google search how to use flip to load hex answered everything

    So are you reallyopposed to making information more accessible and beginner friendly? Is this some sort of elitist attitude problem or are you just out to make me feel stupid because I didn't know what and AVR or Flip was? Not exactly the response I expected TBH.

    Im saying that there are plenty of beginner guides for flip already on the internet and google can answer them much better than this thread can

    Thanks, I was sent that in pm. Maybe I'm just coming from a place that no one who's ever bought this has come from before. I was recommended in on OCN and just purchased it hoping it would be plug and play. I didn't know what AVRs are or what firmwares were available or who metaliqaz was. Didn't know about flip or hex files or anything. None of this is mentioned in the OP of the replacement controllers thread which is the only thread I knew and the one I used find out who made the controller and then make the order. I guess most other people who order these have some experience or at least know of similar controllers. I'm going to make up a guide eventually and while it may be useless for people who have spent time on this site and have heard of these kinds of controllers, I hope it will be useful for people like me who've just joined and decided to jump right in and support the custom projects of its members. As for RTFM, its quiteu hard to do when you dont know where it is.

    Anyway my small question has been answered and i will cease cluttering up this thread now. Thanks everyone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 09 April 2014, 15:28:31
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 09 April 2014, 13:55:19
    Thanks, I was sent that in pm. Maybe I'm just coming from a place that no one who's ever bought this has come from before. I was recommended in on OCN and just purchased it hoping it would be plug and play. I didn't know what AVRs are or what firmwares were available or who metaliqaz was. Didn't know about flip or hex files or anything. None of this is mentioned in the OP of the replacement controllers thread which is the only thread I knew and the one I used find out who made the controller and then make the order. I guess most other people who order these have some experience or at least know of similar controllers. I'm going to make up a guide eventually and while it may be useless for people who have spent time on this site and have heard of these kinds of controllers, I hope it will be useful for people like me who've just joined and decided to jump right in and support the custom projects of its members. As for RTFM, its quiteu hard to do when you dont know where it is.

    Anyway my small question has been answered and i will cease cluttering up this thread now. Thanks everyone.

    Sorry, I was laughing at Pacifist's answer, not you...  :)

    I understand your frustration.  Most of the people who have struggled with this at some point have conveniently forgotten that it was hard to get started.  There is absolutely a learning curve to try to get replacement controllers working.  I bought HID Liberation Device for my Filco and I had to learn all this stuff to use it.

    Here are my recommendations:
    I would start with the software that metalliqaz wrote.  You can find it here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.msg1127412#msg1127412)...
    His software gives you a nice UI for creating your layout and generating a hex file.  This will simplify things a lot to get started.  This will limit your exposure to just figuring out how to get the hex file flashed to your device.
    His software originated from his Epsilon project, so some of his original documentation (and useful guides) can be found in that thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41390.msg826848#msg826848).  You will have to flip through a bunch of pages to find the valuable pieces, but there are not too many pages, so its not too daunting. 

    Once you get your layout configured in his software you will be able to export a HEX file.  This hex file is what you need to get on your replacement controller.  The act of replacing the hex on the controller with the new hex file is called 'flashing'.  Assuming you are using Windows, you will use Flip for this.  I would recommend getting this software and Flip and try to follow along with that video (but with your own layout) and try to get your layout on the controller.

    One more thing.  In order to flash your controller with a new firmware, you will need to first put your controller into "Boot Mode".  In this mode it is essentially unlocked and will allow a different firmware to be flashed to it.  I am not entirely sure how you put your controller into boot mode, but with my HID Liberation device, I originally put the controller into boot mode by holding a strong magnet over it.  I believe both of our controllers were created by bipiphony (probably spelt wrong), so it is possible that will work for yours as well.  Someone else may be able to answer that better.  Metalliqaz's software allows you to assign a key combination to put your keyboard into boot mode once you get it flashed on, so that will simplify this process later.  I think there is even a warning in his software if you don't bind a key combination for boot mode.

    I think thats it.  It is a steep learning curve to get started with this, but don't get frustrated you will figure it out.  Just ignore the people who are not actually helpful, it is a forum after all.  :P

    Feel free to PM me if you have specific questions that you think I may be able to help with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 April 2014, 15:40:54
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 09 April 2014, 15:28:31
    Metalliqaz's software allows you to assign a key combination to put your keyboard into boot mode once you get it flashed on, so that will simplify this process later.  I think there is even a warning in his software if you don't bind a key combination for boot mode.

    By default, I believe TMK firmware uses "magic key" + Pause/Break to jump to bootloader. "Magic key" is both shifts, by default.

    I believe bpiphany's firmware jumps to bootloader on both shifts pressed, but I may be remembering an early revision. It could be a different combination now, if he changed it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 09 April 2014, 15:46:37
    Nvm, found something on Google.  :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 09 April 2014, 16:01:45
    @jdcarpe:  Thanks, that is helpful info.  :)
    @SeeThruHead: Don't try to start with TMK, it has a MUCH steeper learning curve.  If you get things working with Metalliqaz's software and feel comfortable with the process then you can try TMK.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 April 2014, 15:40:54
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 09 April 2014, 15:28:31
    Metalliqaz's software allows you to assign a key combination to put your keyboard into boot mode once you get it flashed on, so that will simplify this process later.  I think there is even a warning in his software if you don't bind a key combination for boot mode.

    By default, I believe TMK firmware uses "magic key" + Pause/Break to jump to bootloader. "Magic key" is both shifts, by default.

    I believe bpiphany's firmware jumps to bootloader on both shifts pressed, but I may be remembering an early revision. It could be a different combination now, if he changed it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 April 2014, 16:06:59
    @SeeThruHead: Sorry I didn't see your question earlier. Don't let Pacifist get you down. If you do want to try the TMK firmware route, here (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/how-to-build-your-very-own-keyboard-firmware-t7177.html) is an excellent guide by matt3o on how to code it. It's something we all had to figure out for ourselves before matt wrote that guide. I keep forgetting about the guide, and I should be linking people there!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 April 2014, 16:12:08
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 April 2014, 16:06:59
    @SeeThruHead: Sorry I didn't see your question earlier. Don't let Pacifist get you down. If you do want to try the TMK firmware route, here (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/how-to-build-your-very-own-keyboard-firmware-t7177.html) is an excellent guide by matt3o on how to code it. It's something we all had to figure out for ourselves before matt wrote that guide. I keep forgetting about the guide, and I should be linking people there!

    I had no idea that existed jdcarpe. Thanks for sharing  :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wonko73 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 23:59:56
    Hi,

    a few weeks ago I got a Filco TKL Ninja and a Filco Minila Air, both with blue switches. The Minila often is doing some kind of noise like a wobbling spring, a "booooing" when hitting the board harder. It is not a certain key and I don't find the exact position where the noise comes from.

    Does anybody know about this issue? Any ideas how to get rid of this sound?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Thu, 10 April 2014, 05:14:57
    Quote from: Wonko73 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 23:59:56
    Hi,

    a few weeks ago I got a Filco TKL Ninja and a Filco Minila Air, both with blue switches. The Minila often is doing some kind of noise like a wobbling spring, a "booooing" when hitting the board harder. It is not a certain key and I don't find the exact position where the noise comes from.

    Does anybody know about this issue? Any ideas how to get rid of this sound?
    You might want to check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29277.0) there's a whole discussion going on about it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 April 2014, 07:27:54
    Quote from: Wonko73 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 23:59:56
    Hi,

    a few weeks ago I got a Filco TKL Ninja and a Filco Minila Air, both with blue switches. The Minila often is doing some kind of noise like a wobbling spring, a "booooing" when hitting the board harder. It is not a certain key and I don't find the exact position where the noise comes from.

    Does anybody know about this issue? Any ideas how to get rid of this sound?

    It's the Filco "Ping". I have it on my Filco Zero. I've dampened a lot of the sound by putting a some drawer liner (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52677.0) between the PCB and case. And then I place my keyboards on top of a TekMat (large mousepad) at work (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1225996#msg1225996) and a EDPM mat at home (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54414.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 April 2014, 09:06:26
    Embrace the ping.

    If you think the Filco is bad, you should get one of those IBM Alps boards!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:56:13
    When I put replacement keycaps on my QFR (SP and GMK) with costar stabilizers, the stabilized keys wobble like crazy.  In fact, if I press the edge of the shift keys, they totally bind up. seems to be because the white plastic inserts are totally loose inside the stabilizer "stems." Is this a common problem, and what is the best way to address it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Thu, 10 April 2014, 22:01:51
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:56:13
    When I put replacement keycaps on my QFR (SP and GMK) with costar stabilizers, the stabilized keys wobble like crazy.  In fact, if I press the edge of the shift keys, they totally bind up. seems to be because the white plastic inserts are totally loose inside the stabilizer "stems." Is this a common problem, and what is the best way to address it?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_YY

    Right in the OP :)

    Use paper, plastic bag, teflon tape and push the white costar inserts with it inside.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 10 April 2014, 23:32:49
    Sharp edge of spacebar on my new RF 87u is constantly sticking into my thumb. What can I do about it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Thu, 10 April 2014, 23:34:30
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 10 April 2014, 23:32:49
    Sharp edge of spacebar on my new RF 87u is constantly sticking into my thumb. What can I do about it?

    Flip it around! Lots of people do it!

    (http://i.imgur.com/oYqbCtl.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 10 April 2014, 23:41:58
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 10 April 2014, 23:32:49
    Sharp edge of spacebar on my new RF 87u is constantly sticking into my thumb. What can I do about it?

    Grow a callous, bandaid, tape across the edge, anything but flipping it.  To me that looks about as dumb as 24" rims on a mini van.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:18:10
    Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 10 April 2014, 22:01:51
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:56:13
    When I put replacement keycaps on my QFR (SP and GMK) with costar stabilizers, the stabilized keys wobble like crazy.  In fact, if I press the edge of the shift keys, they totally bind up. seems to be because the white plastic inserts are totally loose inside the stabilizer "stems." Is this a common problem, and what is the best way to address it?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_YY

    Right in the OP :)

    Use paper, plastic bag, teflon tape and push the white costar inserts with it inside.

    Heh thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:20:37
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:18:10
    Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 10 April 2014, 22:01:51
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:56:13
    When I put replacement keycaps on my QFR (SP and GMK) with costar stabilizers, the stabilized keys wobble like crazy.  In fact, if I press the edge of the shift keys, they totally bind up. seems to be because the white plastic inserts are totally loose inside the stabilizer "stems." Is this a common problem, and what is the best way to address it?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_YY

    Right in the OP :)

    Use paper, plastic bag, teflon tape and push the white costar inserts with it inside.

    Heh thanks

    Sandwich baggies work great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:52:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:20:37
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:18:10
    Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 10 April 2014, 22:01:51
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:56:13
    When I put replacement keycaps on my QFR (SP and GMK) with costar stabilizers, the stabilized keys wobble like crazy.  In fact, if I press the edge of the shift keys, they totally bind up. seems to be because the white plastic inserts are totally loose inside the stabilizer "stems." Is this a common problem, and what is the best way to address it?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_YY

    Right in the OP :)

    Use paper, plastic bag, teflon tape and push the white costar inserts with it inside.

    Heh thanks

    Sandwich baggies work great.

    I'll keep that in mind. I guess some people think these are better than Cherry stabilizers, but man, they are a pain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:56:41
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:52:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:20:37
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 April 2014, 00:18:10
    Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 10 April 2014, 22:01:51
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 10 April 2014, 21:56:13
    When I put replacement keycaps on my QFR (SP and GMK) with costar stabilizers, the stabilized keys wobble like crazy.  In fact, if I press the edge of the shift keys, they totally bind up. seems to be because the white plastic inserts are totally loose inside the stabilizer "stems." Is this a common problem, and what is the best way to address it?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_YY

    Right in the OP :)

    Use paper, plastic bag, teflon tape and push the white costar inserts with it inside.

    Heh thanks

    Sandwich baggies work great.

    I'll keep that in mind. I guess some people think these are better than Cherry stabilizers, but man, they are a pain.

    I hear you there.  Though I can't stand the feeling of non clipped cherry stabs.  I have a rebranded wyse board that has both plate and PCB mount cherry stabs.   Man those caps are a breeze to change.  Best part is no clipping required.  And no they weren't clipped before.  I would be able to see evidence of something having been there before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:14:40
    Does anyone know if the DCS sets that SP is putting out now are thicker like their DSA sets? Or has the DSA sets always been thicker? You know how I like em' thick :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:18:14
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:14:40
    Does anyone know if the DCS sets that SP is putting out now are thicker like their DSA sets? Or has the DSA sets always been thicker?

    As far as I know, DSA has always been thicker than DCS. I don't think the thickness of DCS has changed since SP was WYSE. And I don't think the thicknesses are changing.

    Quote from: digi on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:14:40
    You know how I like em' thick :P

     ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:20:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:18:14
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:14:40
    Does anyone know if the DCS sets that SP is putting out now are thicker like their DSA sets? Or has the DSA sets always been thicker?

    As far as I know, DSA has always been thicker than DCS. I don't think the thickness of DCS has changed since SP was WYSE. And I don't think the thicknesses are changing.

    Quote from: digi on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:14:40
    You know how I like em' thick :P

     ;)

    thanks! CPTBro :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:26:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:18:14
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:14:40
    Does anyone know if the DCS sets that SP is putting out now are thicker like their DSA sets? Or has the DSA sets always been thicker?

    As far as I know, DSA has always been thicker than DCS. I don't think the thickness of DCS has changed since SP was WYSE. And I don't think the thicknesses are changing.

    Quote from: digi on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:14:40
    You know how I like em' thick :P

     ;)

    SP was never WYSE, they weren't even Comptec. Read your OP. ;)

    And you know there was such a thing as thick WYSE. LOL
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:27:59
    Whoops I thought it was. Apparently been misreading that statement for a while.

    Edit: Improper reading aside, I still don't think SP is changing their DCS thicknesses...even though it'd be nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 11 April 2014, 13:41:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 April 2014, 12:27:59
    Whoops I thought it was. Apparently been misreading that statement for a while.

    Edit: Improper reading aside, I still don't think SP is changing their DCS thicknesses...even though it'd be nice.

    No matter how long you're here, still so new...

    <4
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:02:52
    Where can I buy a LZ MX Mini?

     unassembled and with a full metal case like dans:  http://dangwang.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/420-reviews-lz-mx-mini-by-lifezone/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:04:33
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:02:52
    Where can I buy a LZ MX Mini?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33128.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:07:34
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:04:33
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:02:52
    Where can I buy a LZ MX Mini?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33128.0

    I should clarify

    Where can I get one unassembled and with a full metal case like dans:  http://dangwang.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/420-reviews-lz-mx-mini-by-lifezone/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:22:31
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:07:34
    Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:04:33
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 12 April 2014, 14:02:52
    Where can I buy a LZ MX Mini?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33128.0

    I should clarify

    Where can I get one unassembled and with a full metal case like dans:  http://dangwang.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/420-reviews-lz-mx-mini-by-lifezone/

    AFAIK, there isnt one for sale in any of the classifieds at the moment. Since it was made by Redline/Lifezone, you could try contacting one of them through PMs, email, or on their website.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 12 April 2014, 18:12:27
    Where can I find legends to print to fit perfectly on relegendable key caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sun, 13 April 2014, 01:23:42
    How do you find about KBT Pure pro layout?
    I am thinking buying it because i cannot use my Poker 2 anymore, not dedicated arrows make me sick lol
    But Pure pro has very strange layout to me:
    - small shift keys
    - small backspace
    - small spacebar

    last question: my former Pure backlit keyboard had wearing off keys issue
    on some keys, keys coating is wearing off
    did Vortex change anything with KBT Pure Pro?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 13 April 2014, 05:08:59
    Quote from: elton5354 on Sat, 12 April 2014, 18:12:27
    Where can I find legends to print to fit perfectly on relegendable key caps?

    Would giving you the dimensions help you?

    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 13 April 2014, 01:23:42
    1. How do you find about KBT Pure pro layout?
    I am thinking buying it because i cannot use my Poker 2 anymore, not dedicated arrows make me sick lol
    But Pure pro has very strange layout to me:
    - small shift keys
    - small backspace
    - small spacebar

    2. last question: my former Pure backlit keyboard had wearing off keys issue
    on some keys, keys coating is wearing off
    did Vortex change anything with KBT Pure Pro?

    1. I think the Pure Pro layout is terrible, but that is just my personal opinion. It has just too many non-standard sized keys and feels cramped to me. Some people like it though.
    2. I don't think they changed anything in terms of keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:30:14
    How do I properly remove the space bar from my RF87U without breaking anything? Is there a video that I can use for reference?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:32:25
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:30:14
    How do I properly remove the space bar from my RF87U without breaking anything? Is there a video that I can use for reference?

    Pull straight up on both sides of the spacebar. It's scary but I think that's how you do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:59:02
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:30:14
    How do I properly remove the space bar from my RF87U without breaking anything? Is there a video that I can use for reference?
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 13 April 2014, 05:08:59
    Quote from: elton5354 on Sat, 12 April 2014, 18:12:27
    Where can I find legends to print to fit perfectly on relegendable key caps?

    Would giving you the dimensions help you?

    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 13 April 2014, 01:23:42
    1. How do you find about KBT Pure pro layout?
    I am thinking buying it because i cannot use my Poker 2 anymore, not dedicated arrows make me sick lol
    But Pure pro has very strange layout to me:
    - small shift keys
    - small backspace
    - small spacebar

    2. last question: my former Pure backlit keyboard had wearing off keys issue
    on some keys, keys coating is wearing off
    did Vortex change anything with KBT Pure Pro?

    1. I think the Pure Pro layout is terrible, but that is just my personal opinion. It has just too many non-standard sized keys and feels cramped to me. Some people like it though.
    2. I don't think they changed anything in terms of keycaps.
    Thanks me neither i dont really like layout according the described picture...
    I am stuck, Poker 2 is pain in the ass to use as well with no real dedicated arrows and i find PBT keycaps quite rough as feeling, definitely i dislike
    The other 60% are even worse (HHKB yes it could be interesting but too expensive imo, TEX also too expensive, Pure not pro isnt produced anymore
    The only one that caught my eyes its Ducky Mini but Nordic layout LOL
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 13 April 2014, 12:00:18
    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:59:02
    Thanks me neither i dont really like layout according the described picture...
    I am stuck, Poker 2 is pain in the ass to use as well with no real dedicated arrows and i find PBT keycaps quite rough as feeling, definitely i dislike
    The other 60% are even worse (HHKB yes it could be interesting but too expensive imo, TEX also too expensive, Pure not pro isnt produced anymore
    The only one that caught my eyes its Ducky Mini but Nordic layout LOL

    Have you discounted a Leopold FC660M/C?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 13 April 2014, 12:05:53
    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:59:02
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:30:14
    How do I properly remove the space bar from my RF87U without breaking anything? Is there a video that I can use for reference?
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 13 April 2014, 05:08:59
    Quote from: elton5354 on Sat, 12 April 2014, 18:12:27
    Where can I find legends to print to fit perfectly on relegendable key caps?

    Would giving you the dimensions help you?

    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 13 April 2014, 01:23:42
    1. How do you find about KBT Pure pro layout?
    I am thinking buying it because i cannot use my Poker 2 anymore, not dedicated arrows make me sick lol
    But Pure pro has very strange layout to me:
    - small shift keys
    - small backspace
    - small spacebar

    2. last question: my former Pure backlit keyboard had wearing off keys issue
    on some keys, keys coating is wearing off
    did Vortex change anything with KBT Pure Pro?

    1. I think the Pure Pro layout is terrible, but that is just my personal opinion. It has just too many non-standard sized keys and feels cramped to me. Some people like it though.
    2. I don't think they changed anything in terms of keycaps.
    Thanks me neither i dont really like layout according the described picture...
    I am stuck, Poker 2 is pain in the ass to use as well with no real dedicated arrows and i find PBT keycaps quite rough as feeling, definitely i dislike
    The other 60% are even worse (HHKB yes it could be interesting but too expensive imo, TEX also too expensive, Pure not pro isnt produced anymore
    The only one that caught my eyes its Ducky Mini but Nordic layout LOL

    You know Ducky Mini = Poker 2, right? What do you mean by "I find PBT keycaps quite rough as feeling"? If you mean the texture, there are both smooth and rough textured PBT keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 12:32:23
    How long did it take for your Gas Mask keycaps to arrive from Hong Kong?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 13 April 2014, 12:34:58
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 12:32:23
    How long did it take for your Gas Mask keycaps to arrive from Hong Kong?

    1-2 weeks usually
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 13 April 2014, 21:06:41
    Tried searching, but no luck :(  Does anyone know the default combination for a Winkeyless KMAC PCB (1.4) to swap between different LED modes?  I've seen that the Winkey board probably uses Menu + Esc, but the PCB I have is the WKL version with stock firmware--there has to be something that works for it without reprogramming.  I've tried many different combinations so far, unsuccessfully.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Sun, 13 April 2014, 23:14:42
    Kinesis Advantage: what switches are under those F keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 23:30:15
    My RF87U flexes, creaks and squeaks when I apply pressure directly on the marked spot. Is that a defect I should be expecting? I did get it from another GHer after all.

    (http://i.imgur.com/ZaLeUBU.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:01:53
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 23:30:15
    My RF87U flexes, creaks and squeaks when I apply pressure directly on the marked spot. Is that a defect I should be expecting? I did get it from another GHer after all.

    It's normal. I have owned several 87Us and they all had the same problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:07:07
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:01:53
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 23:30:15
    My RF87U flexes, creaks and squeaks when I apply pressure directly on the marked spot. Is that a defect I should be expecting? I did get it from another GHer after all.

    It's normal. I have owned several 87Us and they all had the same problem.
    And what made you settle with a FC660C?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:11:05
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:07:07
    And what made you settle with a FC660C?

    1. Form factor
    2. Build quality
    3. Portability

    The FC660C is a great keyboard. I still have a 87u-55g, and I use it from time to time, but of all my keyboards, the Leo is my favorite. No one who owns a Leo is settling. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:12:56
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:11:05
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:07:07
    And what made you settle with a FC660C?

    1. Form factor
    2. Build quality
    3. Portability

    The FC660C is a great keyboard. I still have a 87u-55g, and I use it from time to time, but of all my keyboards, the Leo is my favorite. No one who owns a Leo is settling. :thumb:

    Except for aftermarket spacebars.  Hehe just kidding.  I haven't had the priviledge of owning a Leo yet but the layout of the 660 has had me intrigued me for a long time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:17:00
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:11:05
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:07:07
    And what made you settle with a FC660C?

    1. Form factor
    2. Build quality
    3. Portability

    The FC660C is a great keyboard. I still have a 87u-55g, and I use it from time to time, but of all my keyboards, the Leo is my favorite. No one who owns a Leo is settling. :thumb:

    Hmm...I might consider trading my RF for a LeoC, but I still am sceptic all about it's issues with the mini USB connector. Have you had any problems with your LeoC so far?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:19:26
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:17:00
    Hmm...I might consider trading my RF for a LeoC, but I still am sceptic all about it's issues with the mini USB connector. Have you had any problems with your LeoC so far?

    I have not.

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:12:56
    Except for aftermarket spacebars.  Hehe just kidding.  I haven't had the priviledge of owning a Leo yet but the layout of the 660 has had me intrigued me for a long time.

    The FC660C is compatible with RF/HHKB spacebars, actually. It is the FC660M that is non-standard. However, the Leo's right shift and modifiers are different than HHKB/RF.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 14 April 2014, 04:06:54
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Sun, 13 April 2014, 23:14:42
    Kinesis Advantage: what switches are under those F keys?

    Looks non-mechanical to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 14 April 2014, 07:59:26
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 13 April 2014, 21:06:41
    Tried searching, but no luck :(  Does anyone know the default combination for a Winkeyless KMAC PCB (1.4) to swap between different LED modes?  I've seen that the Winkey board probably uses Menu + Esc, but the PCB I have is the WKL version with stock firmware--there has to be something that works for it without reprogramming.  I've tried many different combinations so far, unsuccessfully.

    Would like to know also D:...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 14 April 2014, 11:57:14
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:17:00
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:11:05
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:07:07
    And what made you settle with a FC660C?

    1. Form factor
    2. Build quality
    3. Portability

    The FC660C is a great keyboard. I still have a 87u-55g, and I use it from time to time, but of all my keyboards, the Leo is my favorite. No one who owns a Leo is settling. :thumb:

    Hmm...I might consider trading my RF for a LeoC, but I still am sceptic all about it's issues with the mini USB connector. Have you had any problems with your LeoC so far?

    There has been issues w the Leo's mini USB???? I hope not.

    Best keyboard ever like he said the form, build, layout, everything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:38:49
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Mon, 14 April 2014, 11:57:14
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:17:00
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:11:05
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 14 April 2014, 00:07:07
    And what made you settle with a FC660C?

    1. Form factor
    2. Build quality
    3. Portability

    The FC660C is a great keyboard. I still have a 87u-55g, and I use it from time to time, but of all my keyboards, the Leo is my favorite. No one who owns a Leo is settling. :thumb:

    Hmm...I might consider trading my RF for a LeoC, but I still am sceptic all about it's issues with the mini USB connector. Have you had any problems with your LeoC so far?

    There has been issues w the Leo's mini USB???? I hope not.

    Best keyboard ever like he said the form, build, layout, everything.

    There are currently issues with the USB. Very similar to the issues with the old RK9Ks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:03:03
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:38:49
    There are currently issues with the USB. Very similar to the issues with the old RK9Ks.

    damn. what kind of usb issues are we talking about? because i've been thinking about getting a FC660C..
    and is it possible to swap all keycaps (including the spacebar)? i've read the FC660C uses pad-printed (thin) pbts and i'd rather swap them for sturdier dye-subbed pbts..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:06:08
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:03:03
    and is it possible to swap all keycaps (including the spacebar)? i've read the FC660C uses pad-printed (thin) pbts and i'd rather swap them for sturdier dye-subbed pbts..

    the r shift is different
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:35:23
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:03:03
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:38:49
    There are currently issues with the USB. Very similar to the issues with the old RK9Ks.

    damn. what kind of usb issues are we talking about? because i've been thinking about getting a FC660C..
    and is it possible to swap all keycaps (including the spacebar)? i've read the FC660C uses pad-printed (thin) pbts and i'd rather swap them for sturdier dye-subbed pbts..

    It fails after a frustratingly small number of plug/unplugs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 April 2014, 17:05:00
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:35:23
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:03:03
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:38:49
    There are currently issues with the USB. Very similar to the issues with the old RK9Ks.

    damn. what kind of usb issues are we talking about? because i've been thinking about getting a FC660C..
    and is it possible to swap all keycaps (including the spacebar)? i've read the FC660C uses pad-printed (thin) pbts and i'd rather swap them for sturdier dye-subbed pbts..

    It fails after a frustratingly small number of plug/unplugs

    Can you direct us to some further information on this?  I've been plugging and unplugging my fc660c near weekly since I got it and it's fine, but I'm curious to hear more about the issue you're talking about.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 14 April 2014, 18:23:23
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 April 2014, 17:05:00
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:35:23
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 14 April 2014, 16:03:03
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:38:49
    There are currently issues with the USB. Very similar to the issues with the old RK9Ks.

    damn. what kind of usb issues are we talking about? because i've been thinking about getting a FC660C..
    and is it possible to swap all keycaps (including the spacebar)? i've read the FC660C uses pad-printed (thin) pbts and i'd rather swap them for sturdier dye-subbed pbts..

    It fails after a frustratingly small number of plug/unplugs

    Can you direct us to some further information on this?  I've been plugging and unplugging my fc660c near weekly since I got it and it's fine, but I'm curious to hear more about the issue you're talking about.

    I've seen a few people mentioning it, but not recently, so it may be fixed now. I seem to remember a lot of complaining about it on the keyboard's initial release, though. I wouldn't be surprised if it's fixed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:19:50
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 13 March 2014, 22:11:01
    Does everyone agree that the Filco is better than the WASD V2?

    I'm a little late, but I own both and can say that the build quality is comparable. I honestly have no preference between the two as keyboards.
    I can't stand the brown switches on my Filco, though. It sure does look nice on my wall with it's Miami caps and custom cable.

    Quote from: digi on Tue, 18 March 2014, 11:49:03
    Has anyone installed LED's in a WASD V2? Thinking about adding some flare to the board, if there is a guide or something I missed, I apologize, I only did a brief search and didn't find anything specific on this board.

    Snag up a Code keyboard and sell your wasd. ^.~
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TBone on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:23:06
    Is there a 60% with exactly the same layout as a Poker II but with Costar stabs?  And is there one with the Windows Key and Menu Key instead of the FN and PN keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 15 April 2014, 03:38:41
    Quote from: TBone on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:23:06
    Is there a 60% with exactly the same layout as a Poker II but with Costar stabs?  And is there one with the Windows Key and Menu Key instead of the FN and PN keys?

    Apart from customs (GH60, sprit's PCB), not that I know of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 April 2014, 09:52:26
    Quote from: TBone on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:23:06
    Is there a 60% with exactly the same layout as a Poker II but with Costar stabs?  And is there one with the Windows Key and Menu Key instead of the FN and PN keys?

    If you like the feel of costar stabilizers, you can clip Cherry stabilizers to get a similar feel. I've done this and I think it works.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:46:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 April 2014, 09:52:26
    Quote from: TBone on Mon, 14 April 2014, 21:23:06
    Is there a 60% with exactly the same layout as a Poker II but with Costar stabs?  And is there one with the Windows Key and Menu Key instead of the FN and PN keys?

    If you like the feel of costar stabilizers, you can clip Cherry stabilizers to get a similar feel. I've done this and I think it works.

    What do you mean by "clip"?

    What is there to clip on cherry stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:50:01
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:46:14
    What do you mean by "clip"?

    What is there to clip on cherry stabs?

    Check my modding guide in my signature.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 16 April 2014, 03:43:09
    Has anyone's Realforce spacebar stabilizer stems snapped off before?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 April 2014, 06:39:59
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:30:14
    How do I properly remove the space bar from my RF87U without breaking anything? Is there a video that I can use for reference?

    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 16 April 2014, 03:43:09
    Has anyone's Realforce spacebar stabilizer stems snapped off before?

    Ouch, sorry for the progression there lol. Ripster has a bit of help here (http://imgur.com/a/eI8Il) regarding the spacebar. If you did snap it off, I think Matt3o and others have a model for the Topre stabilizer stems. You can always get one printed up from Shapeways or another company that will do 3D printing and fix it like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 16 April 2014, 07:38:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 April 2014, 06:39:59
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:30:14
    How do I properly remove the space bar from my RF87U without breaking anything? Is there a video that I can use for reference?

    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 16 April 2014, 03:43:09
    Has anyone's Realforce spacebar stabilizer stems snapped off before?

    Ouch, sorry for the progression there lol. Ripster has a bit of help here (http://imgur.com/a/eI8Il) regarding the spacebar. If you did snap it off, I think Matt3o and others have a model for the Topre stabilizer stems. You can always get one printed up from Shapeways or another company that will do 3D printing and fix it like that.
    Nah, I didn't break it. I was flipping the spacebar just now, heard an uncomfortably loud snap when I was putting it back in, thought I broke something.

    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 April 2014, 11:30:14
    How do I properly remove the space bar from my RF87U without breaking anything? Is there a video that I can use for reference?

    This was when I was planning to remove the caps to do some cleaning. just worried about the spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 April 2014, 13:30:51
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 14 April 2014, 07:59:26
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 13 April 2014, 21:06:41
    Tried searching, but no luck :(  Does anyone know the default combination for a Winkeyless KMAC PCB (1.4) to swap between different LED modes?  I've seen that the Winkey board probably uses Menu + Esc, but the PCB I have is the WKL version with stock firmware--there has to be something that works for it without reprogramming.  I've tried many different combinations so far, unsuccessfully.

    Would like to know also D:...

    According to metalliqaz, you just need to hit pause if using the stock firmware.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 16 April 2014, 15:53:18
    I have a doubt about Pure keycaps

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57056.0

    There is several versions of Pure on the market:
    - Backlit ABS keycaps
    - PBT keycaps
    - Non backlit ABS keycaps

    Fortunately, Amazon sells a Pure that comes with non backlit ABS
    I wonder if it comes with standard ABS or just those special backlit ABS
    We can add leds on non backlit Pure through modding but i am afraid about the result of backliting on non ABS keycaps
    Hope it will just light the lettering
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 16 April 2014, 15:55:39
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 16 April 2014, 15:53:18
    Fortunately, Amazon sells a Pure that comes with non backlit ABS
    I wonder if it comes with standard ABS or just those special backlit ABS
    We can add leds on non backlit Pure through modding but i am afraid about the result of backliting on non ABS keycaps
    Hope it will just light the lettering

    Non-backlit ABS keycaps should have white letters that will not light up like backlit keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:02:32
    Then adding leds on standard black ABS keycaps with white lettering is useless?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:04:03
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:02:32
    Then adding leds on standard black ABS keycaps with white lettering is useless?

    It won't shine through just the legend, it will light up the cap if its the standard thin ABS. Some pictures can be found in the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_SS).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:09:57
    And even if there is zero light penetrating the cap, you will still get an underglow effect which I find the most pleasing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:10:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:09:57
    And even if there is zero light penetrating the cap, you will still get an underglow effect which I find the most pleasing.

    Yup, I love the underglow as well :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:21:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:10:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:09:57
    And even if there is zero light penetrating the cap, you will still get an underglow effect which I find the most pleasing.

    Yup, I love the underglow as well :D

    +1

    holy **** underglow is sexy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:40:29
    4th vote for underglow

    it's like underboob but keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:49:04
    What options are available for someone who would like to build a 75% board. Like the choc mini with inline function keys. Would love to have a full aluminum case option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:51:18
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:49:04
    What options are available for someone who would like to build a 75% board. Like the choc mini with inline function keys. Would love to have a full aluminum case option.

    full alum only the LZ Mini, and even still, the full metal case is almost impossible to find
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:53:54
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 16 April 2014, 17:49:04
    What options are available for someone who would like to build a 75% board. Like the choc mini with inline function keys. Would love to have a full aluminum case option.

    As for aluminium cases only the MX Mini comes to my mind. If you are saying "build" I'm assuming you mean you want a custom keyboard? Sprit offers a 75% PCB and sooner or later there might be a GH75.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:00:41
    I didn't know sprit offered a custom 75% pcb thanks. The case can always come later..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:08:55
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:00:41
    I didn't know sprit offered a custom 75% pcb thanks. The case can always come later..

    Sprit might also offer metal cases for his 75% (if not he offers acrylic cases), but I'm not sure what the status of the metal cases is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:17:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:08:55
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:00:41
    I didn't know sprit offered a custom 75% pcb thanks. The case can always come later..

    Sprit might also offer metal cases for his 75% (if not he offers acrylic cases), but I'm not sure what the status of the metal cases is.

    status of metal in general is really far off in the future, and it doesnt look like sprit likes 75%s
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:24:59
    Is there a plate available?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:27:09
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:24:59
    Is there a plate available?

    There are pics of acrylic plates. Please ask Sprit himself about the details - he probably knows more about it than we do ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:41:52
    What's the best way to get blank PBT caps for a realforce? (Similar to the blank HHKB versions).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:44:54
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:41:52
    What's the best way to get blank PBT caps for a realforce? (Similar to the blank HHKB versions).

    Classifieds I think at this point. I could be wrong though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 16 April 2014, 19:02:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:44:54
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Wed, 16 April 2014, 18:41:52
    What's the best way to get blank PBT caps for a realforce? (Similar to the blank HHKB versions).

    Classifieds I think at this point. I could be wrong though.

    That seems correct to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:50:01
    What size is the right shift on this?

    (http://i.imgur.com/KeMGdM2.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:51:38
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:50:01
    What size is the right shift on this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/KeMGdM2.jpg)



    That's a 2x shift from the CCnG Tsangan kit, also called an 1800 shift.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:52:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:51:38
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:50:01
    What size is the right shift on this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/KeMGdM2.jpg)



    That's a 2x shift from the CCnG Tsangan kit, also called an 1800 shift.

    Nice! Know of anywhere, off the top of your head, to find 2x shifts readily available for sale?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:52:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:51:38
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:50:01
    What size is the right shift on this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/KeMGdM2.jpg)



    That's a 2x shift from the CCnG Tsangan kit, also called an 1800 shift.

    I think it's a 1.75x shift right? normal right shift is 2.75x, and because he has the 1x on the right, that means the short shift is 1.75x
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 17 April 2014, 13:28:09
    Right shift in a Tsangan kit is 1.75 units.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 14:41:15
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:52:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:51:38
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:50:01
    What size is the right shift on this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/KeMGdM2.jpg)



    That's a 2x shift from the CCnG Tsangan kit, also called an 1800 shift.

    I think it's a 1.75x shift right? normal right shift is 2.75x, and because he has the 1x on the right, that means the short shift is 1.75x

    Yeah that makes sense. I always get it confused since I always call it an 1800, Tsangan, or "short right" shift

    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:52:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:51:38
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:50:01
    What size is the right shift on this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/KeMGdM2.jpg)



    That's a 2x shift from the CCnG Tsangan kit, also called an 1800 shift.

    Nice! Know of anywhere, off the top of your head, to find 2x shifts readily available for sale?

    Just that shift? Not really easy to find on it's own. You'll need to find a Tsangan kit. SP might have one I don't know about though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 April 2014, 14:52:57
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:52:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:51:38
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 12:50:01
    What size is the right shift on this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/KeMGdM2.jpg)



    That's a 2x shift from the CCnG Tsangan kit, also called an 1800 shift.

    Nice! Know of anywhere, off the top of your head, to find 2x shifts readily available for sale?

    I had some CCnG crap bag caps.....somewhere.....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 15:07:25
    Thank you, guys!

    I looked on the SP website and found a very limited selection of Row 4 1.75 PBT shifts:

    302488 DCS - 1.75X ROW 4 - BLACK (NDY) PBT
    210702 DCS - 1.75X ROW 4 - MEDIUM GRAY (GEC) PBT

    These will tide me over for now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 15:23:39
    Man I'm really off my game. Forgot SP sells loose caps. I meant I wasn't sure pimp my keyboards had a set. Oh well, it worked out XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 17 April 2014, 15:40:39
    If you had just taken apart a model M and found the barrel plate to be cracked half way down one of the ribs between the rows in the alpha numeric block, would you still bolt mod the broken plate, or wait until a replacement came in?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 16:12:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 17 April 2014, 15:40:39
    If you had just taken apart a model M and found the barrel plate to be cracked half way down one of the ribs between the rows in the alpha numeric block, would you still bolt mod the broken plate, or wait until a replacement came in?

    Wait for a replacement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 17 April 2014, 16:15:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 16:12:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 17 April 2014, 15:40:39
    If you had just taken apart a model M and found the barrel plate to be cracked half way down one of the ribs between the rows in the alpha numeric block, would you still bolt mod the broken plate, or wait until a replacement came in?

    Wait for a replacement.

    I was thinking of doing the mod anyway just so I know what I am doing with a new part when it comes in.  Would this be good practice?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 16:29:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 17 April 2014, 16:15:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 April 2014, 16:12:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 17 April 2014, 15:40:39
    If you had just taken apart a model M and found the barrel plate to be cracked half way down one of the ribs between the rows in the alpha numeric block, would you still bolt mod the broken plate, or wait until a replacement came in?

    Wait for a replacement.

    I was thinking of doing the mod anyway just so I know what I am doing with a new part when it comes in.  Would this be good practice?

    Good practice but I think you're making unnecessary work for yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 16:31:42
    When making ergo-clears from new switches, do you guys lube them right away or let them have a "break-in" period first? I imagine that any breaking-in would take a lot longer if they get lubed up right away.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 17 April 2014, 16:38:57
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 16:31:42
    When making ergo-clears from new switches, do you guys lube them right away or let them have a "break-in" period first? I imagine that any breaking-in would take a lot longer if they get lubed up right away.

    The ones I have made were from used switches but I would suggest using the clears with stock springs for a while before modding.  Adding the lube will greatly increase the breakin time on the sides of the slider but should have zero effect on the part that actually causes the tactile click which is also what causes the sticking.  I say go ahead and lube lightly only on the sides of the slider.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: laserpanda on Thu, 17 April 2014, 17:00:04
    I'm trying to buy a 122 from Unicomp, but have no idea which version I should get.

    They've got 6 separate versions now. PC, Terminal, and Emulator versions of both the 5250 and 3270.

    What's the difference between them all?

    Ideally I'd like a PS/2 version that allows me to use all the extra keys in W7 without having to jump through a bunch of hoops.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 17 April 2014, 19:17:14
    Swapped the spacebar on my keycool with costar stabs and blacks

    the spacebar now has tactility :confused:

    I reseated the bar and it still has tactility and is superlould

    any suggestions? Would lube help?

    could it be the extra mounting holes rubbing against something?

    edit: wtf....lubed it, still like this.

    edit2: ended up putting the stock bar back on
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 18 April 2014, 06:53:29
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 17 April 2014, 19:17:14
    Swapped the spacebar on my keycool with costar stabs and blacks

    the spacebar now has tactility :confused:

    Check if the stabilizer wire hits the spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 08:10:23
    Quote from: laserpanda on Thu, 17 April 2014, 17:00:04
    I'm trying to buy a 122 from Unicomp, but have no idea which version I should get.

    They've got 6 separate versions now. PC, Terminal, and Emulator versions of both the 5250 and 3270.

    What's the difference between them all?

    Ideally I'd like a PS/2 version that allows me to use all the extra keys in W7 without having to jump through a bunch of hoops.

    There's only two 122 versions from Unicomp. One has USB and the other has PS/2. Neither has a windows key. I think to satisfy most of your wants, you'll want to check out the Classic 104 PS/2 (http://pckeyboard.com/page/Classic/UB40446). If you look carefully, there's 101 and 104. 101 means its the classic Model M layout which has no winkey. 104 means it's got the windows key so you can use your Windows 7 setup with no issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:54:00
    Where can I get replacement Topre springs? The kind that you put under the cloud of boobs, not the spacebar spring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:41:24
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:54:00
    Where can I get replacement Topre springs? The kind that you put under the cloud of boobs, not the spacebar spring.

    As far as I know, there's no place to get spare parts. You have to use a donor board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:11:45
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:54:00
    Where can I get replacement Topre springs? The kind that you put under the cloud of boobs, not the spacebar spring.

    Did you lose one? Sometimes they will nest in each other and you'll think it's one spring but two.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:14:03
    I managed to ruin two of mine...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:15:14
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:14:03
    I managed to ruin two of mine...

    :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:40:39
    Looks like I'm royally screwed then, have fun in my closet Mr. Realforce. :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:41:57
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:40:39
    Looks like I'm royally screwed then, have fun in my closet Mr. Realforce. :/

    Swap them with keys you'll never use, like Pause/Scroll Lock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:43:13
    Quote from: epzy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:40:39
    Looks like I'm royally screwed then, have fun in my closet Mr. Realforce. :/

    Did you try emailing EK or Topre? Or putting up a WTB? A quick search yields this classifieds listing (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49207.0) from norbauer who was selling Topre parts. Try PMing him to see if he's still got them even though the listing is old?

    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:41:57
    Swap them with keys you'll never use, like Pause/Scroll Lock.

    This too.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:46:13
    I don't like having a incomplete board. I'll PM that guy CPT, thanks. I have put up a WTB, but I have not e-mailed EK / Topre / Keyboardco yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:06:42
    What Cherry boards have an MX-compatible 7x PBT space bar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:09:52
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:06:42
    What Cherry boards have an MX-compatible 7x PBT space bar?

    11800
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:12:26
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:09:52
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:06:42
    What Cherry boards have an MX-compatible 7x PBT space bar?

    11800

    Thanks. Is that one board that has it, or the only one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:19:04
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:12:26
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:09:52
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:06:42
    What Cherry boards have an MX-compatible 7x PBT space bar?

    11800

    Thanks. Is that one board that has it, or the only one?

    one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:22:07
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:12:26
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:09:52
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:06:42
    What Cherry boards have an MX-compatible 7x PBT space bar?

    11800

    Thanks. Is that one board that has it, or the only one?

    That's one board. You can check this list (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_by_keyboard) but I think there might be more boards than that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:25:09
    Thanks guys. It doesn't look like that list mentions the spacebar material, only the size. Is there any way to know which of the 7x boards have PBT spacebar, aside from asking and Googling? I want to track one down, so the more model numbers I have, the better.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:31:22
    11800 is probally the easiest way to get one, as all the others are really rare and expensive

    2nd would be a 3000
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:34:54
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:31:22
    11800 is probally the easiest way to get one, as all the others are really rare and expensive

    2nd would be a 3000

    Gotcha, that's helpful. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: laserpanda on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:12:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 08:10:23
    Quote from: laserpanda on Thu, 17 April 2014, 17:00:04
    I'm trying to buy a 122 from Unicomp, but have no idea which version I should get.

    They've got 6 separate versions now. PC, Terminal, and Emulator versions of both the 5250 and 3270.

    What's the difference between them all?

    Ideally I'd like a PS/2 version that allows me to use all the extra keys in W7 without having to jump through a bunch of hoops.

    There's only two 122 versions from Unicomp. One has USB and the other has PS/2. Neither has a windows key. I think to satisfy most of your wants, you'll want to check out the Classic 104 PS/2 (http://pckeyboard.com/page/Classic/UB40446). If you look carefully, there's 101 and 104. 101 means its the classic Model M layout which has no winkey. 104 means it's got the windows key so you can use your Windows 7 setup with no issues.


    There's 6 if you use the customiser, which I am, as I want the Swedish/Finnish layout.
    There's clearly a windows key on the PC/122 at least.

    https://s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/fd/4d/b9/fd4db9cc522a0341e54c3d1033c8ea65.jpg
    bottom left

    What I'm concerned with is that some models apparently just treat the extra function keys as Shift + F1-F12, rather than giving them unique scancodes, which I want to avoid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:34:34
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:34:54
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:31:22
    11800 is probally the easiest way to get one, as all the others are really rare and expensive

    2nd would be a 3000

    Gotcha, that's helpful. Thanks.

    Are you sure? There were boards with PBT caps that had ABS spacebars. The spacebars were marked as PBT but they were still ABS. I should've clarified that earlier. Was mainly looking at the 7x length part.

    Quote from: laserpanda on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:12:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 08:10:23
    Quote from: laserpanda on Thu, 17 April 2014, 17:00:04
    I'm trying to buy a 122 from Unicomp, but have no idea which version I should get.

    They've got 6 separate versions now. PC, Terminal, and Emulator versions of both the 5250 and 3270.

    What's the difference between them all?

    Ideally I'd like a PS/2 version that allows me to use all the extra keys in W7 without having to jump through a bunch of hoops.

    There's only two 122 versions from Unicomp. One has USB and the other has PS/2. Neither has a windows key. I think to satisfy most of your wants, you'll want to check out the Classic 104 PS/2 (http://pckeyboard.com/page/Classic/UB40446). If you look carefully, there's 101 and 104. 101 means its the classic Model M layout which has no winkey. 104 means it's got the windows key so you can use your Windows 7 setup with no issues.

    There's clearly a windows key on the PC/122 at least.

    https://s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/fd/4d/b9/fd4db9cc522a0341e54c3d1033c8ea65.jpg
    bottom left

    What I'm concerned with is that some models apparently just treat the extra function keys as Shift + F1-F12, rather than giving them unique scancodes, which I want to avoid.

    I don't know personally so I asked some of the IBMHeads in the IRC channel. Thanks dfj and daemonraccoon for the help.

    dfj's thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=10985.msg212193#msg212193

    <dfj> [22:19:09] so - if you get teh one, it is setup to go into the 'emulator' mode, so it generates shift+blah strokes for the extra keys, alternately, if you get the other it generates mode-3 unique scnacodes for each key... however this doesn't work with windows.
    <dfj> [22:20:05] so - a soarer controller or similar will be needed to convert from teh pseudo-PS/2 of mode 3 to USB, at which point windows will see the f13-f24 and the rest of teh keys as whatever you set them to.
    <dfj> [22:20:23] yeah - gh'ers actually got it added to linux. :p
    <dfj> [22:20:57] morningsong, way back when.
    <dfj> [22:21:37] for linux - mebbe - but for a windows machine, you want to use a 122 with a soarerverter, even if you purchase a unicomp.
    <daemonraccoon> [22:20:00] AT mode-3 is not windows friendly, but loonix supports it if you know the magic kernel config
    <CPTBadAss> [22:21:51] thank you dfj and daemonraccoon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:40:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:34:34
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:34:54
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 16:31:22
    11800 is probally the easiest way to get one, as all the others are really rare and expensive

    2nd would be a 3000

    Gotcha, that's helpful. Thanks.

    Are you sure? There were boards with PBT caps that had ABS spacebars. The spacebars were marked as PBT but they were still ABS. I should've clarified that earlier. Was mainly looking at the 7x length part.


    Hmm, well at the very least, are all (unmodified) 11800 boards guaranteed to have a PBT bar? There are quite a few on eBay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:41:27
    yea 11800 has pbt
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:43:24
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:40:51
    Hmm, well at the very least, are all (unmodified) 11800 boards guaranteed to have a PBT bar? There are quite a few on eBay.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:41:27
    yea 11800 has pbt

    How are you so certain? I'm not sure. All the other Cherry boards I've bought with PBT caps have had ABS spacebars. Do you have a link?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 18:25:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:43:24
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:40:51
    Hmm, well at the very least, are all (unmodified) 11800 boards guaranteed to have a PBT bar? There are quite a few on eBay.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:41:27
    yea 11800 has pbt

    How are you so certain? I'm not sure. All the other Cherry boards I've bought with PBT caps have had ABS spacebars. Do you have a link?

    My 11800 has PBT, and I really doubt cherry would put pbt on one board out of all of their boards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 April 2014, 18:39:58
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 18:25:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:43:24
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:40:51
    Hmm, well at the very least, are all (unmodified) 11800 boards guaranteed to have a PBT bar? There are quite a few on eBay.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:41:27
    yea 11800 has pbt

    How are you so certain? I'm not sure. All the other Cherry boards I've bought with PBT caps have had ABS spacebars. Do you have a link?

    My 11800 has PBT, and I really doubt cherry would put pbt on one board out of all of their boards

    Are you REALLY sure they're PBT? Like, you've done the acetone test to the underside, and it wasn't affected? Because Cherry liked to make ABS spacebars in molds that had PBT stamped in them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 18 April 2014, 19:16:56
    Does anyone have a picture comparing the GMK cyan to Miami set cyan?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 18 April 2014, 19:27:21
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 April 2014, 18:39:58
    Are you REALLY sure they're PBT? Like, you've done the acetone test to the underside, and it wasn't affected? Because Cherry liked to make ABS spacebars in molds that had PBT stamped in them.
    Interesting: all my cherry spacebars that are stamped PBT on the bottom are either PBT or POM. Do you have some ABS ones that are marked PBT?

    I'm trying to get my clerks to bring in acetone for me to do some keycap tests with now that I'm no longer living with that guy who had a huge jug of it. Maybe I'll just buy some.


    Question: Where to buy acetone?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 19:30:51
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 18 April 2014, 19:27:21
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 April 2014, 18:39:58
    Are you REALLY sure they're PBT? Like, you've done the acetone test to the underside, and it wasn't affected? Because Cherry liked to make ABS spacebars in molds that had PBT stamped in them.
    Interesting: all my cherry spacebars that are stamped PBT on the bottom are either PBT or POM. Do you have some ABS ones that are marked PBT?

    I'm trying to get my clerks to bring in acetone for me to do some keycap tests with now that I'm no longer living with that guy who had a huge jug of it. Maybe I'll just buy some.


    Question: Where to buy acetone?

    would nail polish remover be the easiest way? Its acetone based
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 18 April 2014, 19:36:01
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 19:30:51
    would nail polish remover be the easiest way? Its acetone based

    Not all of them though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:08:40
    Can anyone with a good eye tell me the configuration of this here GON board:

    (https://i.imgur.com/EQMTpe2.jpg)

    (https://i.imgur.com/dxXWEou.jpg)

    (https://i.imgur.com/tqUFmTv.jpg)

    (https://i.imgur.com/HFe8sik.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 19 April 2014, 08:31:25
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:08:40
    Can anyone with a good eye tell me the configuration of this here GON board:

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/EQMTpe2.jpg)


    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/dxXWEou.jpg)


    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/tqUFmTv.jpg)


    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/HFe8sik.jpg)


    I would suggest to ask GON himself, assuming you want the same configuration.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 19 April 2014, 10:37:17
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 19 April 2014, 08:31:25
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:08:40
    Can anyone with a good eye tell me the configuration of this here GON board:

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/EQMTpe2.jpg)


    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/dxXWEou.jpg)


    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/tqUFmTv.jpg)


    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/HFe8sik.jpg)


    I would suggest to ask GON himself, assuming you want the same configuration.

    I see nothing there that indicates anything other than a standard layout, with the possible exception of an off-center capslock.  The spacebar is 6.25x and the bottom row mods are all 1.25x.  Everything else looks standard ANSI.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 19 April 2014, 10:48:10
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 19 April 2014, 10:37:17
    I see nothing there that indicates anything other than a standard layout, with the possible exception of an off-center capslock.  The spacebar is 6.25x and the bottom row mods are all 1.25x.  Everything else looks standard ANSI.

    I think he meant the colors etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:39:16
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:42:05

    They are not exactly the same but they have similar structures. The PBT space bar is hard and steady. It is not easy to bend the PBT one while the ABS is. Plus, the PBT space has well-finished shapes, surfaces and corners.  It is not easy to tell in the picture but I believe we all can tell which one is a PBT space bar when we touch it and try to bend it.



    Thanks for the info. I also talked to Photekq and read some old posts, and it does seem fairly safe to conclude that all 11800 PBT space bars are in fact PBT.

    I am going to create a new thread consolidating what I've learned about PBT keysets and spacebars.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:44:56

    Quote from: intelli78 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:39:16
    Thanks for the info. I also talked to Photekq and read some old posts, and it does seem fairly safe to conclude that all 11800 PBT space bars are in fact PBT.

    I am going to create a new thread consolidating what I've learned about PBT keysets and spacebars.

    Cool, you asked the question I wanted answered :P

    I found a mx11800 heh, perhaps you can find one on ebay too!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 17:31:02
    Do you think that putting clear switch tops on vintage blacks would/could make them scratchy? Kinda like ghetto nixdorf blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 April 2014, 17:36:30
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 17:31:02
    Do you think that putting clear switch tops on vintage blacks would/could make them scratchy? Kinda like ghetto nixdorf blacks.

    Maybe? Not sure if the tolerances of those abostudio clear tops. I believe the nixdorfs housings had did tolerances in their molds leading to a different feel. Maybe different springs too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 19 April 2014, 18:40:36
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:08:40
    Can anyone with a good eye tell me the configuration of this here GON board:

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/EQMTpe2.jpg)


    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/dxXWEou.jpg)


    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/tqUFmTv.jpg)


    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/HFe8sik.jpg)


    Damn I love GONS cases so much.. Hoffman covered it good!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:32:45
    These are MX Blacks, right?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USB-TG3-Electronics-Keyboard-w-Touchpad-Mouse-Buttons-KBA-nBLTA-QTY-AVAIL-/121266006222
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:37:21
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:32:45
    These are MX Blacks, right?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USB-TG3-Electronics-Keyboard-w-Touchpad-Mouse-Buttons-KBA-nBLTA-QTY-AVAIL-/121266006222

    Yeah I've never seen the TG3s with anything but Blacks before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 20 April 2014, 13:05:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:37:21
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:32:45
    These are MX Blacks, right?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USB-TG3-Electronics-Keyboard-w-Touchpad-Mouse-Buttons-KBA-nBLTA-QTY-AVAIL-/121266006222

    Yeah I've never seen the TG3s with anything but Blacks before.

    There were TG3s with clears, the listing is sold out now tho
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 20 April 2014, 13:06:14
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 20 April 2014, 13:05:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:37:21
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:32:45
    These are MX Blacks, right?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USB-TG3-Electronics-Keyboard-w-Touchpad-Mouse-Buttons-KBA-nBLTA-QTY-AVAIL-/121266006222

    Yeah I've never seen the TG3s with anything but Blacks before.

    There were TG3s with clears, the listing is sold out now tho

    **** you're right...My bad. Clears and Blacks I should've said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Sun, 20 April 2014, 15:35:41
    I saw these on KBDmania, where can I get similar ones?

    http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&page=2&document_srl=8294012 (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&page=2&document_srl=8294012)

    Quote
    Show Image
    (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/012/294/008/ac7a1863806f06860f636b5d75275175.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Sun, 20 April 2014, 21:31:12
    Leopold FC700R - does it have hardware repeat delay and repeat rate control like Duckys do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 07:09:41
    Has anyone here ever gone back to Cherry MXs after about a month or so with their Topre?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 April 2014, 09:57:26
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Sun, 20 April 2014, 21:31:12
    Leopold FC700R - does it have hardware repeat delay and repeat rate control like Duckys do?

    I don't think so. I'm not aware of it if it does. I own one.

    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 07:09:41
    Has anyone here ever gone back to Cherry MXs after about a month or so with their Topre?

    If you're looking for an impression on Topre switches and what people think of them, there's a ton of Topre threads out. Just do a search or look through the keyboards subforum. Topre related feel questions including this leading question get asked fairly often. It boils down to personal preference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 19:52:39
    I have received my new barrel plate from unicomp.  Would it be OK if I get it warm with water while forming it to the backplate?  I am paranoid about cracking the new one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:39:04
    Difference between vintage and non-vintage blacks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:43:51
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:39:04
    Difference between vintage and non-vintage blacks?

    They feel slightly different to me. Vintage feel slightly lighter and smoother. I believe that lubing non-vintage blacks makes them feel as good as vintage. This has been discussed in a lot of other threads if you search as well if you want other info or opinions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:45:24
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:39:04
    Difference between vintage and non-vintage blacks?

    Some will say there isn't a difference but I have tried both used vintage blacks (from 3 different WYSE terminal boards) and modern blacks on a Filco.  I can tell you there is a difference in feel.  The vintage ones are a touch smoother and softer.  Though if there is a difference between modern and unused vintage blacks I can't say for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:52:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:45:24
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:39:04
    Difference between vintage and non-vintage blacks?

    Some will say there isn't a difference but I have tried both used vintage blacks (from 3 different WYSE terminal boards) and modern blacks on a Filco.  I can tell you there is a difference in feel.  The vintage ones are a touch smoother and softer.  Though if there is a difference between modern and unused vintage blacks I can't say for sure.
    Would the difference be reduced with the correct lube? I'm looking at Kmacs atm, and vintage blacks are looking a rad too pricey, unless you could suggest a cheaper source for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:54:00
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:52:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:45:24
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:39:04
    Difference between vintage and non-vintage blacks?

    Some will say there isn't a difference but I have tried both used vintage blacks (from 3 different WYSE terminal boards) and modern blacks on a Filco.  I can tell you there is a difference in feel.  The vintage ones are a touch smoother and softer.  Though if there is a difference between modern and unused vintage blacks I can't say for sure.
    Would the difference be reduced with the correct lube? I'm looking at Kmacs atm, and vintage blacks are looking a rad too pricey, unless you could suggest a cheaper source for them.

    Think there's a board in the classifieds right now for $25 with vintage blacks. I got 200 for $.20 a pop when Whiskytango was doing a big WYSE sale. Try talking to him?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 22:03:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:54:00
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:52:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:45:24
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:39:04
    Difference between vintage and non-vintage blacks?

    Some will say there isn't a difference but I have tried both used vintage blacks (from 3 different WYSE terminal boards) and modern blacks on a Filco.  I can tell you there is a difference in feel.  The vintage ones are a touch smoother and softer.  Though if there is a difference between modern and unused vintage blacks I can't say for sure.
    Would the difference be reduced with the correct lube? I'm looking at Kmacs atm, and vintage blacks are looking a rad too pricey, unless you could suggest a cheaper source for them.

    Think there's a board in the classifieds right now for $25 with vintage blacks. I got 200 for $.20 a pop when Whiskytango was doing a big WYSE sale. Try talking to him?
    Will do, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 22:09:08
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:52:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:45:24
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:39:04
    Difference between vintage and non-vintage blacks?

    Some will say there isn't a difference but I have tried both used vintage blacks (from 3 different WYSE terminal boards) and modern blacks on a Filco.  I can tell you there is a difference in feel.  The vintage ones are a touch smoother and softer.  Though if there is a difference between modern and unused vintage blacks I can't say for sure.
    Would the difference be reduced with the correct lube? I'm looking at Kmacs atm, and vintage blacks are looking a rad too pricey, unless you could suggest a cheaper source for them.

    Check your local E-recycle shops for them.  You would be surprised what you can get for what prices.  I have picked up 3 WYSE terminal boards for $3 each and my last trip I got an AEK II and a Lexmark M for $5 each.

    Edit:  Alps and Matias switches are the same pin pattern, correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 22:15:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 22:09:08
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:52:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:45:24
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:39:04
    Difference between vintage and non-vintage blacks?

    Some will say there isn't a difference but I have tried both used vintage blacks (from 3 different WYSE terminal boards) and modern blacks on a Filco.  I can tell you there is a difference in feel.  The vintage ones are a touch smoother and softer.  Though if there is a difference between modern and unused vintage blacks I can't say for sure.
    Would the difference be reduced with the correct lube? I'm looking at Kmacs atm, and vintage blacks are looking a rad too pricey, unless you could suggest a cheaper source for them.

    Check your local E-recycle shops for them.  You would be surprised what you can get for what prices.  I have picked up 3 WYSE terminal boards for $3 each and my last trip I got an AEK II and a Lexmark M for $5 each.

    What are the boards usually harvested for vintage blacks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Mon, 21 April 2014, 23:52:58
    has there ever been a GREEN 1.75x thick PBT cherry profile shift key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 03:31:52
    Quote from: tbc on Mon, 21 April 2014, 23:52:58
    has there ever been a GREEN 1.75x thick PBT cherry profile shift key?

    I don't really keep track of RGB sets but I don't think I ever saw one.

    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 21 April 2014, 22:15:40
    What are the boards usually harvested for vintage blacks?

    MX keyboards made before 1991 should have them - old Wyse terminal keyboards, G80-1000 and G80-1500 are all fairly reliable sources for them.

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 22:09:08
    Edit:  Alps and Matias switches are the same pin pattern, correct?

    Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Tue, 22 April 2014, 03:44:11
    What is the character limit of posts on GH?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 22 April 2014, 05:33:10
    Quote from: Coreda on Tue, 22 April 2014, 03:44:11
    What is the character limit of posts on GH?

    CC said (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.msg463610#msg463610) he had reached the 20,000 character limit in one of his threads, so I'm guessing around that figure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:28:49
    How moddable would you guys consider a Choc Mini to be. I would like to add full led lighting, mod the plate for solderless removal and paint it.

    Assuming the Choc Mini PCB has no support for LED would it be possible to drill out holes through the PCB and pass the leads throught for hard wiring on the rear of the pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:35:47
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:28:49
    How moddable would you guys consider a Choc Mini to be. I would like to add full led lighting, mod the plate for solderless removal and paint it.

    Assuming the Choc Mini PCB has no support for LED would it be possible to drill out holes through the PCB and pass the leads throught for hard wiring on the rear of the pcb?

    The Choc Mini should have holes for the LEDs as there are backlit versions of it    . If it doesn't have holes, you can maybe drill holes for them but I really wouldn't recommend it, especially not for full backlighting. The chances of cutting a trace and the loads of wire for hardwiring the LEDs would make it near impossible.
    You can mod the plate and paint it, but you will have to desolder all switches first, so make sure to do that before adding the LEDs. You could also get yourself a custom plate made.

    Edit: Correction, it does not seem to have the holes: http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/Noppoo/pcb2.jpg
    I guess it depends on the version? Not sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:47:21
    Hmmm. I was thinking of modding the plate with a regular old file and/or dremel. I feel that should be possible. Maybe and EL wire mod is in store for the backlighting though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:49:37

    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:28:49
    How moddable would you guys consider a Choc Mini to be. I would like to add full led lighting, mod the plate for solderless removal and paint it.

    Assuming the Choc Mini PCB has no support for LED would it be possible to drill out holes through the PCB and pass the leads throught for hard wiring on the rear of the pcb?

    If you want a full backlit 75% keyboard, just get an MX Mini. You can get a plate made for it with the correct switch hole openings for solderless top removal. Case options are somewhat limited.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:54:36
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:47:21
    Hmmm. I was thinking of modding the plate with a regular old file and/or dremel. I feel that should be possible. Maybe and EL wire mod is in store for the backlighting though.

    That would work, yes, might not look as nice though. And EL wire looks pretty bad for backlighting in my opinion...

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:49:37
    If you want a full backlit 75% keyboard, just get an MX Mini. You can get a plate made for it with the correct switch hole openings for solderless top removal. Case options are somewhat limited.

    Sprit's 75% would also be an option, he also offers cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:56:16
    I'm already in sprits GB for a 75% and case. I'm impatient though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:59:35
    Quote from: Coreda on Tue, 22 April 2014, 03:44:11
    What is the character limit of posts on GH?

    It's 40,000. I've hit it before writing reviews and actually in the OP of this thread.

    Edit: I think 20,000 was the old limit and when the forum came back after R00tw0rm, it was changed to 40,000.

    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:28:49
    How moddable would you guys consider a Choc Mini to be. I would like to add full led lighting, mod the plate for solderless removal and paint it.

    I think the Choc Mini still has the debouncing issues that causes the board to chatter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 07:03:17
    Argh, I know I probably won't be happy with the quality of the choc mini. I just really want a 75% board in my hands asap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Tue, 22 April 2014, 07:50:32
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 22 April 2014, 05:33:10
    CC said (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.msg463610#msg463610) he had reached the 20,000 character limit in one of his threads, so I'm guessing around that figure.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:59:35
    It's 40,000. I've hit it before writing reviews and actually in the OP of this thread.

    Thanks. I've hit 14,000 characters in a post already, so this is useful to know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 22 April 2014, 08:45:28
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:54:36
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:47:21
    Hmmm. I was thinking of modding the plate with a regular old file and/or dremel. I feel that should be possible. Maybe and EL wire mod is in store for the backlighting though.

    That would work, yes, might not look as nice though. And EL wire looks pretty bad for backlighting in my opinion...

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 April 2014, 06:49:37
    If you want a full backlit 75% keyboard, just get an MX Mini. You can get a plate made for it with the correct switch hole openings for solderless top removal. Case options are somewhat limited.

    Sprit's 75% would also be an option, he also offers cases.

    You could try an EL mat.  You can get it in sheets.  Last time I looked into it there were two varieties.  One you could make swiss cheese out of it and the other you can't.  I have seen some that will run off USB power but most will require 12 volt iirc. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:16:51
    Do new MX Blacks sound like this with 65g springs?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIkwKgKFhc&list=UUi51LUI0D43OeR7zju-NM5g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIkwKgKFhc&list=UUi51LUI0D43OeR7zju-NM5g)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:19:34
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:16:51
    Do new MX Blacks sound like this with 65g springs?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIkwKgKFhc&list=UUi51LUI0D43OeR7zju-NM5g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIkwKgKFhc&list=UUi51LUI0D43OeR7zju-NM5g)

    The sound really depends on the case, caps, if you bottom out or not, material under the case and if there is a dampening mat inside.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:31:57
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:19:34
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:16:51
    Do new MX Blacks sound like this with 65g springs?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIkwKgKFhc&list=UUi51LUI0D43OeR7zju-NM5g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIkwKgKFhc&list=UUi51LUI0D43OeR7zju-NM5g)

    The sound really depends on the case, caps, if you bottom out or not, material under the case and if there is a dampening mat inside.
    Well what makes this particular board sound that good? That sound signature is what I'm shooting for, on a KMAC to be specific.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:35:59
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:31:57
    Well what makes this particular board sound that good? That sound signature is what I'm shooting for, on a KMAC to be specific.

    Hard to say. Seems like he doesn't bottom out hard, and he probably has some sort of dampening mat inside the case. Looks like the case is also sitting on a sort of mousepad. The metal case is also of course a big factor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:38:01
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:31:57
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:19:34
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:16:51
    Do new MX Blacks sound like this with 65g springs?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIkwKgKFhc&list=UUi51LUI0D43OeR7zju-NM5g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIkwKgKFhc&list=UUi51LUI0D43OeR7zju-NM5g)

    The sound really depends on the case, caps, if you bottom out or not, material under the case and if there is a dampening mat inside.
    Well what makes this particular board sound that good? That sound signature is what I'm shooting for, on a KMAC to be specific.

    You told me you don't like the KMAC2, which has a similar design to that LZ-CE. But I think that block shaped case contributes to the sound signature. I'm not sure my KMAC LE would sound the same if I put the Blacks in it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:41:01
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:35:59
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:31:57
    Well what makes this particular board sound that good? That sound signature is what I'm shooting for, on a KMAC to be specific.

    Hard to say. Seems like he doesn't bottom out hard, and he probably has some sort of dampening mat inside the case. Looks like the case is also sitting on a sort of mousepad. The metal case is also of course a big factor.
    So the sound isn't totally dependent on the switches themselves? What a relief. Even his RF and RF10AE sound really silent(soothingly), even less so than his HHKB-S lubed with what, krytox 104?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:43:42
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:41:01
    So the sound isn't totally dependent on the switches themselves?

    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:19:34
    The sound really depends on the case, caps, if you bottom out or not, material under the case and if there is a dampening mat inside.

    No. I agree with BlueBar with the factors that contribute to the sound of switches.

    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:41:01
    His HHKB-S lubed with what, krytox 104?

    You can lube your Topre switches with the Krytox lube mixes from Techkeys.us or Originativeco.com. On GH, those Krytox mixes are the most popular option, I think, for lubing switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 10:30:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:43:42
    You can lube your Topre switches with the Krytox lube mixes from Techkeys.us or Originativeco.com. On GH, those Krytox mixes are the most popular option, I think, for lubing switches.

    Thin or thick?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 April 2014, 14:47:40
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 22 April 2014, 10:30:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:43:42
    You can lube your Topre switches with the Krytox lube mixes from Techkeys.us or Originativeco.com. On GH, those Krytox mixes are the most popular option, I think, for lubing switches.

    Thin or thick?

    I think mkawa said thick but you better double check.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Tue, 22 April 2014, 16:22:28
    I believe mkawa developed the "super thick" lube for Topre switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 22 April 2014, 19:09:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 19:52:39
    I have received my new barrel plate from unicomp.  Would it be OK if I get it warm with water while forming it to the backplate?  I am paranoid about cracking the new one.

    It shouldn't hurt anything, but all the new barrel plates I've dealt with have been just fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 22 April 2014, 19:32:10
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 22 April 2014, 19:09:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 21 April 2014, 19:52:39
    I have received my new barrel plate from unicomp.  Would it be OK if I get it warm with water while forming it to the backplate?  I am paranoid about cracking the new one.

    It shouldn't hurt anything, but all the new barrel plates I've dealt with have been just fine.

    Thanks for the info.  Mkawa confirmed this as well.  I would assume for the actual install it goes the same as bolt modding the original?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:48:29
    2 questions

    1. Breaking in clears before lubing-Myth or legit?

    2. Lightest spring to use with clears with lube before it does sticky action.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:51:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:48:29
    2 questions

    1. Breaking in clears before lubing-Myth or legit?

    2. Lightest spring to use with clears with lube before it does sticky action.

    1.  I believe both.  I think it has an effect but it would take so long to get past any sort of "break in" period to have a noticeable effect that it would be moot.

    2.  I am using stock Cherry springs from browns with clear stems lubed with a fairly thing Krytox mix only on the sides of the slider and have zero issues with sticking using imso thick PBT.  Though spacebar was stock clear spring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:53:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:51:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:48:29
    2 questions

    1. Breaking in clears before lubing-Myth or legit?

    2. Lightest spring to use with clears with lube before it does sticky action.

    1.  I believe both.  I think it has an effect but it would take so long to get past any sort of "break in" period to have a noticeable effect that it would be moot.

    2.  I am using stock Cherry springs from browns with clear stems lubed with a fairly thing Krytox mix only on the sides of the slider and have zero issues with sticking using imso thick PBT.  Though spacebar was stock clear spring.

    Thanks!

    1. Im going to use the clears from those POS boards from ebay, hopefully those are broken in enough.

    2. Would 55g korean be lighter or heavier than browns?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:59:35
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:53:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:51:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:48:29
    2 questions

    1. Breaking in clears before lubing-Myth or legit?

    2. Lightest spring to use with clears with lube before it does sticky action.

    1.  I believe both.  I think it has an effect but it would take so long to get past any sort of "break in" period to have a noticeable effect that it would be moot.

    2.  I am using stock Cherry springs from browns with clear stems lubed with a fairly thing Krytox mix only on the sides of the slider and have zero issues with sticking using imso thick PBT.  Though spacebar was stock clear spring.

    Thanks!

    1. Im going to use the clears from those POS boards from ebay, hopefully those are broken in enough.

    2. Would 55g korean be lighter or heavier than browns?

    1.  I don't see how they can't be if the board has been in service.

    2.  I believe that they are just a touch heavier.  I could be wrong though.  But remember that korean springs are at bottom and Cherrys listings are at actuation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 23 April 2014, 02:23:38
    55g should be a bit lighter than browns. The light cherry springs are around 60g (bottom out).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 02:59:04
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:53:18
    Thanks!
    1. Im going to use the clears from those POS boards from ebay, hopefully those are broken in enough.
    2. Would 55g korean be lighter or heavier than browns?

    55g Korean springs are good for Cherry MX Brown. I have tried 55g Korean spring from Originative and used them on Cherry MX Brown collected from G80. From what I feel, the springs are lighter than the Cherry MX default light spring but it brings better results : the tactile is more obvious.

    However, the 55g is too light for Cherry MX Clear unless you have very old Vintage Cherry MX Clear whereas the white stem turned into yellow and the tactile degraded significantly. In that case, the MX Clear has similar tactile force as Cherry MX Brown so that we can use 55g spring on them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 April 2014, 07:10:59
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 22 April 2014, 23:48:29
    2 questions

    1. Breaking in clears before lubing-Myth or legit?

    2. Lightest spring to use with clears with lube before it does sticky action.

    1) Everything wears so you could wear away the friction points before lubing but I'm not sure how long it would take to get you to your desired wear state. Personal testing is probably needed.

    2) I've tried lubed 55g that didn't stick and ones that did stick. Mistakemistake had new lubed 55g clears that were fine. But I've tried more boards with missed clears that stuck than didn't. Seems to me 62g it's the lowest is want to go. And I prefer 65g or MX blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 10:28:01
    I'm getting a Duck Mini V2 shortly that has 59g unlubed (afaik) ergo clears. Odd spring strength, I am interested to see whether I have to replace them.

    Anyway, my question is: what type/size of screw/bolt is used to hold the Duck Mini V2 riser onto the keyboard? I haven't been able to find any good pics. It almost looks like a square head (?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Wed, 23 April 2014, 11:36:26
    What is the difference between a 'limited' spring and a normal spring here?

    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 April 2014, 11:38:42
    Quote from: cannonking on Wed, 23 April 2014, 11:36:26
    What is the difference between a 'limited' spring and a normal spring here?

    http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs

    From this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51504.0), the limited springs should have a tighter tolerance and less spring weight variation between each spring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Wed, 23 April 2014, 12:31:08
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 10:28:01
    I'm getting a Duck Mini V2 shortly that has 59g unlubed (afaik) ergo clears. Odd spring strength, I am interested to see whether I have to replace them.

    Anyway, my question is: what type/size of screw/bolt is used to hold the Duck Mini V2 riser onto the keyboard? I haven't been able to find any good pics. It almost looks like a square head (?)

    I don't have a Duck Mini V2, but those "square head" screws are Robertson's, which are almost exclusively used in Canada due to patents and such. Perhaps someone who has one can chime in. From the look of pictures with the fixing bolts on the side, I'm going to say that it uses Hex screws.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:44:25
    is there any 60 size with dedicated arrows on the right bottom of keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:45:55
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:44:25
    is there any 60 size with dedicated arrows on the right bottom of keyboard?

    FC660M/C is the closest, Poker X kind of (FN+space toggles the modifier cluster to work as arrow keys).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:49:41
    Pure Pro and Filco miniLA as well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:53:40
    I got Pure Pro but faulty keyboard and layout was awful to get used to type on.
    I would rather stay on ANSI if possible
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 14:29:28
    Does anyone know if there's a male usb a connector on ebay that's plastic housing is big enough to put a sleeved cable though? The ones I have right now are way too small. Thanks. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 23 April 2014, 15:14:25
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 14:29:28
    Does anyone know if there's a male usb a connector on ebay that's plastic housing is big enough to put a sleeved cable though? The ones I have right now are way too small. Thanks. :thumb:

    I did this:
    [attach=1]

    Looks pretty good and seems to hold quite well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 23 April 2014, 16:02:41
    I use desk lamp to light keyboard but i want to know it might damage keyboard (i have also white keyboard)? i have basic desk lamp and its pretty hot in there
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 April 2014, 16:03:25
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 23 April 2014, 16:02:41
    I use desk lamp to light keyboard but i want to know it might damage keyboard (i have also white keyboard)? i have basic desk lamp and its pretty hot in there

    Should be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 23 April 2014, 16:52:19
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 23 April 2014, 15:14:25
    Quote from: stancato9 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 14:29:28
    Does anyone know if there's a male usb a connector on ebay that's plastic housing is big enough to put a sleeved cable though? The ones I have right now are way too small. Thanks. :thumb:

    I did this:
    (Attachment Link)

    Looks pretty good and seems to hold quite well.

    This is what I was planning to do for mine as well...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 23 April 2014, 17:44:40
    The pbt set that sold on originative has a profile or b profile bottom row?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 23 April 2014, 18:55:27
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 23 April 2014, 17:44:40
    The pbt set that sold on originative has a profile or b profile bottom row?

    IIRC b profile
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Thu, 24 April 2014, 06:33:34
    I ve seen on my Poker II there are poling rate settings, whats the purpose?
    Meaning if i enable the lowest amount, should i become to type faster?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 24 April 2014, 06:48:13
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 24 April 2014, 06:33:34
    I ve seen on my Poker II there are poling rate settings, whats the purpose?
    Meaning if i enable the lowest amount, should i become to type faster?

    Polling is basically how often the keyboard and the PC exchange data, the higher it is the more often data is exchanged and the less "lag" between pressing the key and it getting registered by the PC occurs. However, even fairly low polling rates are enough for keyboards, it is more important for mice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Thu, 24 April 2014, 06:52:09
    Are you telling me they added usuless features? lol
    Yes that what i thought, it does not feel necessary since you can type way faster with mechanical keyboard than anything else
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 24 April 2014, 07:16:09
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 24 April 2014, 06:52:09
    Are you telling me they added usuless features? lol

    Well it's useful for marketing I guess :))

    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 24 April 2014, 06:52:09
    Yes that what i thought, it does not feel necessary since you can type way faster with mechanical keyboard than anything else

    That is not necessarily true. If you would have a keyboard with less than 2mm travel until actuation you can in theory be faster. So you could be typing a lot faster on something like a touchscreen than on a mechanical keyboard, but we all know that is not really true and doesn't feel nearly as good :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 14:06:36
    Does anyone have a 'default' .map file for a GON NS 38 GT? Had some troubles mapping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:32:15
    Does anyone have a 'default' .map file for a GON NS 38 GT? Had some troubles mapping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:47:54
    Is there a 60%+numpad custom board? Like a lightsaver, but without the function keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:51:24
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:47:54
    Is there a 60%+numpad custom board? Like a lightsaver, but without the function keys?

    That new Chinese "Red Scarf II"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:53:44
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:47:54
    Is there a 60%+numpad custom board? Like a lightsaver, but without the function keys?

    What jdcarpe said or I think there was one from the DT custom build (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/laser-cut-prototyping-mini-gb-t6102-660.html) thread. But I can't remember 100%. You'll have to doublecheck yourself. This thread (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/group-build-prototyping-phase-t7474.html) might also have some information.

    Quote from: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:32:15
    Does anyone have a 'default' .map file for a GON NS 38 GT? Had some troubles mapping.

    Just edit your previous post. Please don't double post.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:56:22
    Interesting, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 24 April 2014, 17:48:03
    Quote from: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:32:15
    Does anyone have a 'default' .map file for a GON NS 38 GT? Had some troubles mapping.

    I will post one when I get home. I think I have a Poker II-ish layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 18:37:51
    Quote from: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 24 April 2014, 17:48:03
    Quote from: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:32:15
    Does anyone have a 'default' .map file for a GON NS 38 GT? Had some troubles mapping.

    I will post one when I get home. I think I have a Poker II-ish layout.

    Thanks so much that would be extremely helpful! I haven't used this software before and stupidly managed to delete the whole layout and upload it to the keyboard so nothing works now - and when I try to remap the keys it seems like only sometimes it works, I don't know. Spent hours messing with the software anyway trying to fix it and I'm pretty fed up at this point!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 24 April 2014, 18:48:43
    Quote from: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 18:37:51
    Quote from: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 24 April 2014, 17:48:03
    Quote from: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:32:15
    Does anyone have a 'default' .map file for a GON NS 38 GT? Had some troubles mapping.

    I will post one when I get home. I think I have a Poker II-ish layout.

    Thanks so much that would be extremely helpful! I haven't used this software before and stupidly managed to delete the whole layout and upload it to the keyboard so nothing works now - and when I try to remap the keys it seems like only sometimes it works, I don't know. Spent hours messing with the software anyway trying to fix it and I'm pretty fed up at this point!

    Yeah, I learned pretty early on in messing with layouts to always have a QFR (or equivalent keyboard you can't screw with) on hand in the event of excess humanity.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 24 April 2014, 23:26:14
    Was there ever a Model F that had the inverted T arrow key layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nuclearsandwich on Fri, 25 April 2014, 00:28:30
    Quote from: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 18:37:51
    Quote from: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 24 April 2014, 17:48:03
    Quote from: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:32:15
    Does anyone have a 'default' .map file for a GON NS 38 GT? Had some troubles mapping.

    I will post one when I get home. I think I have a Poker II-ish layout.

    Thanks so much that would be extremely helpful! I haven't used this software before and stupidly managed to delete the whole layout and upload it to the keyboard so nothing works now - and when I try to remap the keys it seems like only sometimes it works, I don't know. Spent hours messing with the software anyway trying to fix it and I'm pretty fed up at this point!

    PM'ed you a matrix file but since both my Aikon boards are out of the house right now I have no real way of verifying it. Tomorrow I'll bring one home and double check everything but I have no Windows at work so I can't get it to you until I return. Why isn't there time travel yet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 00:30:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 24 April 2014, 23:26:14
    Was there ever a Model F that had the inverted T arrow key layout?

    Nope, the closest thing is the arrow cluster on the F122.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 25 April 2014, 00:54:30
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 00:30:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 24 April 2014, 23:26:14
    Was there ever a Model F that had the inverted T arrow key layout?

    Nope, the closest thing is the arrow cluster on the F122.

    Alright thanks.  That is the 5 key plus sign layout right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 25 April 2014, 00:55:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 25 April 2014, 00:54:30
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 00:30:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 24 April 2014, 23:26:14
    Was there ever a Model F that had the inverted T arrow key layout?

    Nope, the closest thing is the arrow cluster on the F122.

    Alright thanks.  That is the 5 key plus sign layout right?

    yup
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Fri, 25 April 2014, 03:11:20
    Quote from: nuclearsandwich on Fri, 25 April 2014, 00:28:30
    Quote from: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 18:37:51
    Quote from: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 24 April 2014, 17:48:03
    Quote from: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:32:15
    Does anyone have a 'default' .map file for a GON NS 38 GT? Had some troubles mapping.

    I will post one when I get home. I think I have a Poker II-ish layout.

    Thanks so much that would be extremely helpful! I haven't used this software before and stupidly managed to delete the whole layout and upload it to the keyboard so nothing works now - and when I try to remap the keys it seems like only sometimes it works, I don't know. Spent hours messing with the software anyway trying to fix it and I'm pretty fed up at this point!

    PM'ed you a matrix file but since both my Aikon boards are out of the house right now I have no real way of verifying it. Tomorrow I'll bring one home and double check everything but I have no Windows at work so I can't get it to you until I return. Why isn't there time travel yet?

    YGPM! Thanks again for the help!! Weird whilst trying and failing to fix the layout myself I plugged in my HHKB and it was randomly going from upper to lower case until I restarted my computer. Probably something to do with the aikon software or something, I don't know. Couldn't even type on that normally ugh!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bencze on Fri, 25 April 2014, 05:37:00
    Hi!
    I'm trying to identify a poker 2 based on a bad picture. Perhaps someone can help me?

    http://postimg.org/image/4n9silmkl/

    It looks to me like it's german layout (or something), based on pictures I seen I'd guess it's the backlit abs version? Or the keycaps look all the same? But these are just guesses, maybe there's people that will recognize it. I am having a hard time identifying products, not even sure what's their official page, found a link to kbtrace.com on deskthority and the web server gives error :)
    I'm thinking of buying it from someone who doesn't know crap about it, supposedly new, for about 67$ which is less than the 100 I seen in qtan's store so I'm obviously interested...

    Appreciate it if anyone can help me out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 25 April 2014, 05:44:07
    Quote from: Bencze on Fri, 25 April 2014, 05:37:00
    Hi!
    I'm trying to identify a poker 2 based on a bad picture. Perhaps someone can help me?

    http://postimg.org/image/4n9silmkl/

    It looks to me like it's german layout (or something), based on pictures I seen I'd guess it's the backlit abs version? Or the keycaps look all the same? But these are just guesses, maybe there's people that will recognize it. I am having a hard time identifying products, not even sure what's their official page, found a link to kbtrace.com on deskthority and the web server gives error :)
    I'm thinking of buying it from someone who doesn't know crap about it, supposedly new, for about 67$ which is less than the 100 I seen in qtan's store so I'm obviously interested...

    Appreciate it if anyone can help me out.

    The keyboard in the picture is a Poker 2, DE-ISO (German) with ABS keycaps and should have backlighting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 April 2014, 07:35:39
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 10:28:01
    I'm getting a Duck Mini V2 shortly that has 59g unlubed (afaik) ergo clears. Odd spring strength, I am interested to see whether I have to replace them.

    Anyway, my question is: what type/size of screw/bolt is used to hold the Duck Mini V2 riser onto the keyboard? I haven't been able to find any good pics. It almost looks like a square head (?)

    Thanks to nuclearsandwich, your question has been answered. Check out this imgur album (http://imgur.com/a/Te4SI) for more details.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 08:11:29
    Awesome, thanks to you both!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:18:37
    So, I will be building my first custom next week and it will be using cherry stabs. I plan on clipping and lubing them.

    My only concern is how I have read that you risk damaging your PCB over time because the little nubs that you are cutting off are meant to reduce the impact from the stabilizer. Is there any truth to this?

    I think I saw someone say something about putting electrical tape below the stabilizers to dampen the impact(if you clip them), so I think I am going to do that to be safe..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:21:02
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:18:37
    So, I will be building my first custom next week and it will be using cherry stabs. I plan on clipping and lubing them.

    My only concern is how I have read that you risk damaging your PCB over time because the little nubs that you are cutting off are meant to reduce the impact from the stabilizer. Is there any truth to this?

    I think I saw someone say something about putting electrical tape below the stabilizers to dampen the impact(if you clip them), so I think I am going to do that to be safe..

    I wouldn't worry about it. I've had clipped stabs on my KMAC for a while now without issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:44:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:21:02
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:18:37
    So, I will be building my first custom next week and it will be using cherry stabs. I plan on clipping and lubing them.

    My only concern is how I have read that you risk damaging your PCB over time because the little nubs that you are cutting off are meant to reduce the impact from the stabilizer. Is there any truth to this?

    I think I saw someone say something about putting electrical tape below the stabilizers to dampen the impact(if you clip them), so I think I am going to do that to be safe..

    I wouldn't worry about it. I've had clipped stabs on my KMAC for a while now without issue.
    Okay, did you clip them just like this?

    Because there is also this half clipping method that I am not sure is better or worse as far as feel.
    http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/photo/3717218
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:52:23
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:44:37
    Okay, did you clip them just like this?

    Because there is also this half clipping method that I am not sure is better or worse as far as feel.
    http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/photo/3717218

    Yes, I used that video and the clipped stabs thread from DT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sat, 26 April 2014, 06:22:40
    Anyone has tried MX-Clear, White, Green for gaming?

    I know black/red are recommended for fps and gaming overall but it sounds interesting to try anothers infamous types of switches
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 26 April 2014, 06:45:20
    I have not tried whites, but have greens and clears and they were too fatiguing for me in long sessions. I like ergo-clears for gaming they are lighter but with noticeable bump which makes them like "better" brown. In the end you'll have to try for yourself  ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 26 April 2014, 09:27:47
    Quote from: ajx on Sat, 26 April 2014, 06:22:40
    Anyone has tried MX-Clear, White, Green for gaming?

    I know black/red are recommended for fps and gaming overall but it sounds interesting to try anothers infamous types of switches

    Clears and Whites were fine for me. Lately I've been finding that greens have been giving me fatigue issues in Diablo 3.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 26 April 2014, 11:12:27
    Quote from: ajx on Sat, 26 April 2014, 06:22:40
    Anyone has tried MX-Clear, White, Green for gaming?

    I know black/red are recommended for fps and gaming overall but it sounds interesting to try anothers infamous types of switches

    I've gamed with stock Clears and Greens, but I simply didn't enjoy how heavy they were.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 26 April 2014, 11:46:51
    Quote from: ajx on Sat, 26 April 2014, 06:22:40
    Anyone has tried MX-Clear, White, Green for gaming?

    I know black/red are recommended for fps and gaming overall but it sounds interesting to try anothers infamous types of switches

    Whites are too inconsistent for me. I didn't feel like I was getting anything more out of them than I would get with blues

    Clears are pretty good. The bump is very nice, and the weight is bang on.

    Greens are too heavy, and caused some fatigue after about an hour.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: McWilloughby on Sat, 26 April 2014, 16:53:11
    Quote from: ajx on Sat, 26 April 2014, 06:22:40
    Anyone has tried MX-Clear, White, Green for gaming?

    I know black/red are recommended for fps and gaming overall but it sounds interesting to try anothers infamous types of switches

    I've used clears for gaming quite a bit and found them OK but what I found even better was to switch the clear stems in the WASD keys to linear ones. Feels much more natural for gaming imo but doesn't interfere with how the keyboard feels when typing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 26 April 2014, 18:20:18
    How do you secure a cherry pcb mount stabilizer? I installed one and it keeps coming off when I try to remove the key cap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 26 April 2014, 18:38:14
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Sat, 26 April 2014, 18:20:18
    How do you secure a cherry pcb mount stabilizer? I installed one and it keeps coming off when I try to remove the key cap.
    it goes into the pcb...big one first then little one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 26 April 2014, 18:39:06
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Sat, 26 April 2014, 18:20:18
    How do you secure a cherry pcb mount stabilizer? I installed one and it keeps coming off when I try to remove the key cap.

    Sounds like you might have broken it, it should just snap in. Can you take a close up photo?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 27 April 2014, 07:18:44
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 26 April 2014, 18:39:06
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Sat, 26 April 2014, 18:20:18
    How do you secure a cherry pcb mount stabilizer? I installed one and it keeps coming off when I try to remove the key cap.

    Sounds like you might have broken it, it should just snap in. Can you take a close up photo?

    I'm quite sure it is not broken. I think the issue was that I am using a blank DSA pbt from SP and a clear switch. The mount might be too tight for the dsa keycaps. I plan to insert a plastic between the two open legs of the mount, but do you have another solution to secure pcb mounts?

    Sorry for the potato pic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 27 April 2014, 09:14:35
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Sun, 27 April 2014, 07:18:44
    I'm quite sure it is not broken. I think the issue was that I am using a blank DSA pbt from SP and a clear switch. The mount might be too tight for the dsa keycaps. I plan to insert a plastic between the two open legs of the mount, but do you have another solution to secure pcb mounts?

    Sorry for the potato pic.

    Hmm yes looks fine actually. DSA caps are a bit tighter so that might be an issue, yes. The only other solution that comes to my mind are the screw-in stabilizers that are in some old boards, but they're fairly rare.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:50:32
    Where can I get this kind of memory foam to fill keyboard housings with?

    Found this on Listo's blog:
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/DSC2849.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:55:36
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:50:32
    Where can I get this kind of memory foam to fill keyboard housings with?

    You can use shelf liner or cork, works well, too :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:59:43
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:55:36
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:50:32
    Where can I get this kind of memory foam to fill keyboard housings with?

    You can use shelf liner or cork, works well, too :thumb:
    I can get those from local hardware stores right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 27 April 2014, 12:05:34
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:59:43
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:55:36
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:50:32
    Where can I get this kind of memory foam to fill keyboard housings with?

    You can use shelf liner or cork, works well, too :thumb:
    I can get those from local hardware stores right?

    I bought my shelf liner at a grocery store. It's used to line drawers so that your knives and spoons and what not don't slide around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 27 April 2014, 12:44:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 27 April 2014, 12:05:34
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:59:43
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:55:36
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 27 April 2014, 11:50:32
    Where can I get this kind of memory foam to fill keyboard housings with?

    You can use shelf liner or cork, works well, too :thumb:
    I can get those from local hardware stores right?
    Found them, thanks.

    I bought my shelf liner at a grocery store. It's used to line drawers so that your knives and spoons and what not don't slide around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 16:49:18
    I want to switch my Duck Mini V2 from 1.75x / 1x right shift configuration to 2.75x. In addition to the soldering work, I will need a Cherry stabilizer. What parts do I need, exactly, and where can I buy them?

    (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t241/nguyenducloc82/_DSC0557.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 16:53:09
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 16:49:18
    I want to switch my Duck Mini V2 from 1.75x / 1x right shift configuration to 2.75x. In addition to the soldering work, I will need a Cherry stabilizer. What parts do I need, exactly, and where can I buy them?

    Show Image
    (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t241/nguyenducloc82/_DSC0557.jpg)

    If you have soldering stuff, you can buy stabs at orgininative or plenty of other places. If you need soldering stuff, they're doing learn to solder kits right now you can pick up
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 17:11:56
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 16:53:09
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 16:49:18
    I want to switch my Duck Mini V2 from 1.75x / 1x right shift configuration to 2.75x. In addition to the soldering work, I will need a Cherry stabilizer. What parts do I need, exactly, and where can I buy them?

    Show Image
    (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t241/nguyenducloc82/_DSC0557.jpg)

    If you have soldering stuff, you can buy stabs at orgininative or plenty of other places. If you need soldering stuff, they're doing learn to solder kits right now you can pick up

    Thanks, let me clarify.

    - I need the plate-mounted type, right? If I buy "a stabilizer," it will come with both the plastic and wire components, or do I need to buy them separately?

    - Originative is out of stock. I looked around a bit but didn't see anything right away. Any other suggestions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 27 April 2014, 17:35:10
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 17:11:56
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 16:53:09
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 16:49:18
    I want to switch my Duck Mini V2 from 1.75x / 1x right shift configuration to 2.75x. In addition to the soldering work, I will need a Cherry stabilizer. What parts do I need, exactly, and where can I buy them?

    Show Image
    (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t241/nguyenducloc82/_DSC0557.jpg)

    If you have soldering stuff, you can buy stabs at orgininative or plenty of other places. If you need soldering stuff, they're doing learn to solder kits right now you can pick up

    Thanks, let me clarify.

    - I need the plate-mounted type, right? If I buy "a stabilizer," it will come with both the plastic and wire components, or do I need to buy them separately?

    - Originative is out of stock. I looked around a bit but didn't see anything right away. Any other suggestions?

    The Duck Mini uses PCB mounted stabilizers like most Korean customs seem to. The only place I was able to get them without paying hella $$$ for shipping from China or South Korea was mouser and you have to buy plate mounted 2x and pcb mounted 8x stabilizers then mix and match. If you PM me I'll send you a complete 2x stabilizer for postage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 17:46:43
    That's very generous of you. I will take you up on that. PM incoming.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sun, 27 April 2014, 21:05:54
    I have two questions, one is: Where can I buy cherry mx clear switches for my Kmac build? Question 2: Do Kmacs come with costar stabilizers, or do I need to buy them separately?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 27 April 2014, 21:06:59
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sun, 27 April 2014, 21:05:54
    I have two questions, one is: Where can I buy cherry mx clear switches for my Kmac build? Question 2: Do Kmacs come with costar stabilizers, or do I need to buy them separately?

    mk.com

    you probally need to buy the stabs seperately if it doesn't even come with switches
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 27 April 2014, 21:59:41
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sun, 27 April 2014, 21:05:54
    Question 2: Do Kmacs come with costar stabilizers, or do I need to buy them separately?

    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought KMAC only took Cherry stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 27 April 2014, 22:01:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 27 April 2014, 21:59:41
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sun, 27 April 2014, 21:05:54
    Question 2: Do Kmacs come with costar stabilizers, or do I need to buy them separately?

    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought KMAC only took Cherry stabilizers?
    Correct. Cherry PCB-mount stabilisers only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 11:33:24
    Two questions today...

    I bought two 7x spacebars from Signature Plastics' inventory page. One of them fits my Duck Mini V2 (the dark gray one) -- the other one has different stem spacings and doesn't fit. WTF is going on with that? Is it a defect? They were both listed as standard 7x spacebars on SP's website.

    (http://i.imgur.com/PXdSnV0.jpg)

    Also, as shown in this video, the spacebar on this keyboard is extremely loud. What should I do to silence it? I researched a little, and it looks like I could do any/all of these things. Thoughts?

    - Use heavier spring, e.g., from MX Gray switch
    - O rings and/or soft landing pads
    - Lube
    - Clip stabilizers


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 11:39:46
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 11:33:24
    1) I bought two 7x spacebars from Signature Plastics' inventory page. One of them fits my Duck Mini V2 (the dark gray one) -- the other one has different stem spacings and doesn't fit. WTF is going on with that? Is it a defect? They were both listed as standard 7x spacebars on SP's website.


    2) Also, as shown in this video, the spacebar on this keyboard is extremely loud. What should I do to silence it? I researched a little, and it looks like I could do any/all of these things. Thoughts?

    - Use heavier spring, e.g., from MX Gray switch
    - O rings
    - Lube
    - Clip stabilizers

    1) Looks like you have a defect on that white spacebar. Unless you have it angled weird, it doesn't even look like it's the same size as the dark grey one.

    2) You have what looks like GMK/Cherry caps with an SP spacebar. SP caps are thinner and will sound louder because of it. I don't think a spring or clipping the stabilizers will help reduce the sound. I think o-rings and lube will help, along with drawer liner and putting your keyboard on a mousepad or something of that nature. But most of all, getting a Cherry/GMK spacebar will help reduce the sound.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 12:07:45
    OK, thanks for the advice! I guess I'll go ahead and pick up an MX 11800.

    The white spacebar is the same width as the other one, but the stems are just in the wrong positions. Very weird.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 12:11:59
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 12:07:45
    OK, thanks for the advice! I guess I'll go ahead and pick up an MX 11800.

    The white spacebar is the same width as the other one, but the stems are just in the wrong positions. Very weird.

    If that's the case with your spacebar, I think you should contact SP. And I didn't realize those were PBT, my mistake. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:11:25
    Hi!
    Which  cherry keyboard models use mx compatible keycaps?
    I  just checked one g81 3000 and it seems to be compatible not being mechanical at all.

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:12:09
    Quote from: juguerre on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:11:25
    Hi!
    Which  cherry keyboard models use mx compatible keycaps?
    I  just checked one g81 3000 and it seems to be compatible not being mechanical at all.

    Thanks

    G80-XXXX and G81-XXXX. G81-3000 caps should work fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:12:42
    Quote from: juguerre on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:11:25
    Hi!
    Which  cherry keyboard models use mx compatible keycaps?
    I  just checked one g81 3000 and it seems to be compatible not being mechanical at all.

    Thanks

    Most commonly G80 models. G81 = Cherry MY.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:14:30
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:12:42
    Most commonly G80 models. G81 = Cherry MY.

    Even though G81 is Cherry MY, caps from G81 MY keyboards fit on MX stems. I have multiple sets pulled from various G81-XXXX keyboards that I'm using on my keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:16:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:14:30
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:12:42
    Most commonly G80 models. G81 = Cherry MY.

    Even though G81 is Cherry MY, caps from G81 MY keyboards fit on MX stems. I have multiple sets pulled from various G81-XXXX keyboards that I'm using on my keyboards.

    Aren't the 1.25 mods and some other keys incompatible, though?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:18:44
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:16:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:14:30
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:12:42
    Most commonly G80 models. G81 = Cherry MY.

    Even though G81 is Cherry MY, caps from G81 MY keyboards fit on MX stems. I have multiple sets pulled from various G81-XXXX keyboards that I'm using on my keyboards.

    Aren't the 1.25 mods and some other keys incompatible, though?

    Depends on the keyboard. I think the G81-3000s have the proper stem spacing mods and the G81-8000s have off centered mod stems. And if you buy a MY1800, the mod row is 1x instead of 1.25x or 1.5x. But all the other caps will fit. Things like the CMYK, CMYW, and Purple GMK modifier sets all help adapt those kit to standard layouts as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:25:40
    I didn't know that the G81-3000s had centered mod stems. Good to know! The caps lock will definitely not work, though, and according to Ivan neither will the spacebar. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25661.0) Edit: thread pertained to g80, not g81, although this still may be true of the g81-3000s (?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:26:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:18:44
    Depends on the keyboard. I think the G81-3000s have the proper stem spacing mods and the G81-8000s have off centered mod stems. And if you buy a MY1800, the mod row is 1x instead of 1.25x or 1.5x. But all the other caps will fit. Things like the CMYK, CMYW, and Purple GMK modifier sets all help adapt those kit to standard layouts as well.
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:25:40
    I didn't know that the G81-3000s had centered mod stems. Good to know! The caps lock will definitely not work, though, and according to Ivan neither will the spacebar. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25661.0)

    G81-3000 with 1.25 mods have off-center stems, they will not fit on your normal modern board, not sure about the WKL ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:27:38
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:26:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:18:44
    Depends on the keyboard. I think the G81-3000s have the proper stem spacing mods and the G81-8000s have off centered mod stems. And if you buy a MY1800, the mod row is 1x instead of 1.25x or 1.5x. But all the other caps will fit. Things like the CMYK, CMYW, and Purple GMK modifier sets all help adapt those kit to standard layouts as well.
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:25:40
    I didn't know that the G81-3000s had centered mod stems. Good to know! The caps lock will definitely not work, though, and according to Ivan neither will the spacebar. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25661.0)

    G81-3000 with 1.25 mods have off-center stems, they will not fit on your normal modern board, not sure about the WKL ones.

    Here is a thread with pictures to illustrate

    http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/cherry-g81-off-center-keys-from-peacock-g81-3004lanbe-t7618.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:30:18
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:26:46
    G81-3000 with 1.25 mods have off-center stems, they will not fit on your normal modern board, not sure about the WKL ones.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:27:38
    Here is a thread with pictures to illustrate

    http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/cherry-g81-off-center-keys-from-peacock-g81-3004lanbe-t7618.html

    TIL. Thanks for the photos.


    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:25:40
    The caps lock will definitely not work, though, and according to Ivan neither will the spacebar. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25661.0)[/s] Edit: thread pertained to g80, not g81.

    Right the caps locks are off centered and stepped. And the spacebars have the off centered stem for the spacebar switch too.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:38:48
    Ok guys, thanks...  Always learning!
    And just another keycap question, maybe is a silly but: are unicomp keycaps compatible with original ibm model M keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:40:13
    Quote from: juguerre on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:38:48
    Ok guys, thanks...  Always learning!
    And just another keycap question, maybe is a silly but: are unicomp keycaps compatible with original ibm model M keyboard?

    Yes!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:41:16
    Quote from: juguerre on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:38:48
    Are unicomp keycaps compatible with original ibm model M keyboard?

    Yup, I have Unicomp keycaps on my SSK.

    Quote from: juguerre on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:38:48
    Ok guys, thanks...  Always learning!

    Agreed, that's the fun part of this thread imo. I always learn a lot :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:49:20
    Great!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:16:11
    Soo... quick question.

    I wanna buy one of imsto's new aluminium case for my KBT pure. Thing is, KBT switches are PCB mounted.

    That means I have to desolder all the switches and the stabs, mount them on the plate and solder them to the pcb again right?

    Second question, PCB mounted and plate mounted switches are different right? PCB mounted switches has the legs. Does that mean I have to buy a whole new set of switches just for the plate, mount the switches to the plate, desolder current switches from PCB and then mount PCB onto plate with new switches and solder?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:24:15
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:16:11
    1) That means I have to desolder all the switches and the stabs, mount them on the plate and solder them to the pcb again right?

    2) Second question, PCB mounted and plate mounted switches are different right? PCB mounted switches has the legs. Does that mean I have to buy a whole new set of switches just for the plate, mount the switches to the plate, desolder current switches from PCB and then mount PCB onto plate with new switches and solder?

    1) Yes you're correct. Just to clarify, the case comes with a plate?

    2) It really depends on the PCB. If your PCB has the holes for it, you can solder in PCB mount switches while they're on a plate. For example, the KMAC LE does this. I have PCB mounted switches in this plated keyboard because the PCB has the holes to accept the PCB mount switch legs. If you have PCB mount switches and the PCB doesn't have the holes for it, you can always just clip the legs off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:03:47
    If I pm someone who is muted, do they still get my pm?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:05:12
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:03:47
    If I pm someone who is muted, do they still get my pm?

    The mod team tells me that yes they should be able to get the PMs, but can't reply.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:05:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:05:12
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:03:47
    If I pm someone who is muted, do they still get my pm?

    The mod team tells me that yes they should be able to get the PMs, but can't reply.

    ok thanks mang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 28 April 2014, 21:09:24
    Wow talking to the mod team now huh? I see how it is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 29 April 2014, 08:36:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 20:24:15

    1) Yes you're correct. Just to clarify, the case comes with a plate?

    2) It really depends on the PCB. If your PCB has the holes for it, you can solder in PCB mount switches while they're on a plate. For example, the KMAC LE does this. I have PCB mounted switches in this plated keyboard because the PCB has the holes to accept the PCB mount switch legs. If you have PCB mount switches and the PCB doesn't have the holes for it, you can always just clip the legs off.

    1) Um no I don't think so. I'm using a stock KBT pure now and I wanna get one of imsto's plates for it. Just that I don't have proper access to tools now to take apart the keyboard and see whether the switches come with the stems or not.

    2) I googled and found this http://imgur.com/a/nQTKA#cUz82

    If you scroll down, he opens up the keyboard and shows PCB mounted switches with the legs. Mine isn't the backlit/limited edition but I'm still assuming they'll be the same. That means I can just reuse the switches right? Since the plate has slots for the additional legs. I just pop them into the plate, match everything up nicely and solder onto it. No need to source for new, plate specific switches?

    Thanks a ton :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 April 2014, 08:38:01
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Tue, 29 April 2014, 08:36:47
    That means I can just reuse the switches right?

    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:29:40
    Are there any great tricks for making ALPS spacebars less wobbly?  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:30:36
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:29:40
    Are there any great tricks for making ALPS spacebars less wobbly?  :D

    Could always try the plastic shim trick like you would with Costars. Alps are inherently wobbly in general though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:31:42
    How long does it take usually for stuff to get shipped out after mass drops?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:32:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:31:42
    How long does it take usually for stuff to get shipped out after mass drops?

    This isn't really keyboard related. But it depends on the item. I've had Kershaws ship a week after the buy ends and a keychain take about a month.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:33:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:32:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:31:42
    How long does it take usually for stuff to get shipped out after mass drops?

    This isn't really keyboard related. But it depends on the item. I've had Kershaws ship a week after the buy ends and a keychain take about a month.
    Thx, I just didn't think it was important enough to merit its own thread
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:50:59
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:33:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:32:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:31:42
    How long does it take usually for stuff to get shipped out after mass drops?

    This isn't really keyboard related. But it depends on the item. I've had Kershaws ship a week after the buy ends and a keychain take about a month.
    Thx, I just didn't think it was important enough to merit its own thread

    You could have asked at massdrop. Every item has a discussion linked to it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:59:14
    When using PCB mount stabilizers, what bottoms first?  The stab or the switch? 

    The reason I am asking is because I am thinking of adding spacebar versions of the single switch PCB in that group buy but I don't want to risk putting that extra stress on the switch pins.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:03:11
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 29 April 2014, 11:59:14
    When using PCB mount stabilizers, what bottoms first?  The stab or the switch? 

    The reason I am asking is because I am thinking of adding spacebar versions of the single switch PCB in that group buy but I don't want to risk putting that extra stress on the switch pins.

    I'm going to *guess* they bottom at the same time. I think I can see it on the Epsilon. I can test it later to see if I can find anything out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:27:57
    Do you feel difference between red and black switch while gaming?
    Honestly it feels pretty much same since gaming such as consists oftent to bottoming out
    I like red for being much greater for typing? do you think black is too heavy if you bottom out quite often while typing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:29:37
    Quote from: ajx on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:27:57
    Do you feel difference between red and black switch while gaming?
    Honestly it feels pretty much same since gaming such as consists oftent to bottoming out
    I like red for being much greater for typing? do you think black is too heavy if you bottom out quite often while typing?

    This isn't really a simple question and very subjective. If you ask ten people, you're liable to get ten different answers. For me personally, I hate Reds and I refuse to buy any keyboards with them or the switches themselves. Blacks work great for me though, for both typing and gaming.

    A quick search yields a couple threads that might interest you, check them out:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56623.0
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29506.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:31:23
    Quote from: ajx on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:27:57
    Do you feel difference between red and black switch while gaming?
    Honestly it feels pretty much same since gaming such as consists oftent to bottoming out
    I like red for being much greater for typing? do you think black is too heavy if you bottom out quite often while typing?
    If you like reds and are used to gaming with them, you should be fine sticking to those. I use blacks because I like to rest my hands on the keys and fine myself accidentally pressing spacebar constantly, and because when I use reds I bottom out pretty hard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:32:09
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:31:23
    If you like reds and are used to gaming with them, you should be fine sticking to those.

    I totally forgot to mention this and hwood34 is right. Use what feels best for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:52:02
    gaming is fine for both black and red, if i want to be extremely accurate, yes i would litte favor black over red but its very close as feelings
    Now about typing, i did not use black for a long time but at first, i highly disliked.
    I think the best linear switch would be a compromise between red and black, with actuation force around 55 cN?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 29 April 2014, 13:06:32
    Quote from: ajx on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:52:02
    gaming is fine for both black and red, if i want to be extremely accurate, yes i would litte favor black over red but its very close as feelings
    Now about typing, i did not use black for a long time but at first, i highly disliked.
    I think the best linear switch would be a compromise between red and black, with actuation force around 55 cN?

    That's why I love using my lubed 65g (Korean spring) linears. It's the perfect middle ground between black and red.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 April 2014, 15:11:47
    Quote from: ajx on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:27:57
    Do you feel difference between red and black switch while gaming?
    Honestly it feels pretty much same since gaming such as consists oftent to bottoming out
    I like red for being much greater for typing? do you think black is too heavy if you bottom out quite often while typing?

    Yes, there's a difference in games, but once you get used to whatever switch you choose it won't matter. Neither is better.

    I prefer typing on reds to blacks, but I typed for a very long time on blacks before I switched to reds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:33:51
    Quote from: ajx on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:52:02
    gaming is fine for both black and red, if i want to be extremely accurate, yes i would litte favor black over red but its very close as feelings
    Now about typing, i did not use black for a long time but at first, i highly disliked.
    I think the best linear switch would be a compromise between red and black, with actuation force around 55 cN?

    is black a little more accurate?

     why so?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:34:39
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:33:51
    Quote from: ajx on Tue, 29 April 2014, 12:52:02
    gaming is fine for both black and red, if i want to be extremely accurate, yes i would litte favor black over red but its very close as feelings
    Now about typing, i did not use black for a long time but at first, i highly disliked.
    I think the best linear switch would be a compromise between red and black, with actuation force around 55 cN?

    is black a little more accurate?

     why so?

    Because of stiffer springs which makes it easier to not accidentally press keys perhaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:37:51
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:33:51
    is black a little more accurate?

    I don't think so. Unless if you mean what epzy said. I've never been sure what people meant by "accuracy" when they were typing.

    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:34:39
    Because of stiffer springs which makes it easier to not accidentally press keys perhaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:39:45
    for me, I actually have more mistakes with blacks than reds. This is because on reds I bottom out every time, but on blacks is a bit too heavy and I try to touch type, and sometimes I don't hit down the key halfway and nothing gets sent
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:52:00
    Do tactile greys have the exact same sliders as Clears?  Do they have as much of a bump to them?

    Also do keycaps fit as tight on tactile greys as they do on Clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 April 2014, 19:12:23
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:52:00
    Do tactile greys have the exact same sliders as Clears?  Do they have as much of a bump to them?

    Also do keycaps fit as tight on tactile greys as they do on Clears?

    I think the slider is the same just a different color with heavier spring.

    The bump is not as pronounced because it takes more to press but it is a different feeling due to the heavier spring and the tight fit is similar.

    Also to me the grays have a springy sound not near as much as buckling springs but different from other MX switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 29 April 2014, 19:34:49
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 18:52:00
    Do tactile greys have the exact same sliders as Clears?  Do they have as much of a bump to them?

    Also do keycaps fit as tight on tactile greys as they do on Clears?

    Tactile greys do have a bump to them, just less distinct.

    The clears have a stiffer transition from bump -> slide than the greys do
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:24:56
    I'm wondering if I can put 62g springs in tactile greys and they feel just like ergo except my key caps wouldn't have to go on so tight?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:27:56
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:24:56
    I'm wondering if I can put 62g springs in tactile greys and they feel just like ergo except my key caps wouldn't have to go on so tight?

    iirc tooling is exactly the same
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 22:45:03
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:27:56
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 April 2014, 21:24:56
    I'm wondering if I can put 62g springs in tactile greys and they feel just like ergo except my key caps wouldn't have to go on so tight?

    iirc tooling is exactly the same

    Ah okay. So caps will be just as tight on tactile grey stems as they would be on clear?

    That answers my question.  Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 29 April 2014, 23:17:21
    I just wanted to add this somewhere and maybe this is the place cpt...

    (http://i.imgur.com/g0X4HAI.png)

    for people who ask about the pad printed cherry/gmk keycaps, this is a good illustration of the light glaze that is placed ontop of the keycap

    it's the slight square you can see within the boundaries of the edge of the keycap

    so, that's a thick ABS keycap, with pad printing, but with this light glaze on top. doesn't affect the feel at all, but helps make the printing last hella longer

    here's a pic of it zoomed out so maybe you can spot it again

    (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/13883830169_60a7eeceeb_o.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuiop on Wed, 30 April 2014, 05:15:33
    Someone in europe wants to buy a set of stabilizers from me.  The problem is I've never shipped anything to europe.  Ragnorock's shipping info thread says (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37351.0) there's a $4 option.

    Can someone kindly explain how this works? Can I just put the name and  the address on the bubble mailer and take it to local PO?
    How much extra do I pay for tracking?  thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 30 April 2014, 05:59:51
    Quote from: YUIOP on Wed, 30 April 2014, 05:15:33
    1. Can someone kindly explain how this works? Can I just put the name and the address on the bubble mailer and take it to local PO?
    2. How much extra do I pay for tracking?  thanks in advance!

    1. Don't forget to put the country below the main address of course. There shouldn't be anything special apart from that.
    2. You can tell them what shipping option you want or you can also sometimes pay shipping costs online in advance and print the shipping label at home. I think even First Class International (which is the cheapest service iirc) offers tracking though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuiop on Wed, 30 April 2014, 06:49:46
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 30 April 2014, 05:59:51
    Quote from: YUIOP on Wed, 30 April 2014, 05:15:33
    1. Can someone kindly explain how this works? Can I just put the name and the address on the bubble mailer and take it to local PO?
    2. How much extra do I pay for tracking?  thanks in advance!

    1. Don't forget to put the country below the main address of course. There shouldn't be anything special apart from that.
    2. You can tell them what shipping option you want or you can also sometimes pay shipping costs online in advance and print the shipping label at home. I think even First Class International (which is the cheapest service iirc) offers tracking though.

    Thanks.  according to usps site, first class package starts at $6+ and has tracking.
    I'm trying to see if I can send it via first class large envelope, assuming bubble mailer is not too thick for this option.  This would be around $4 but I'm not sure if it includes tracking.  Even if you ship within CONUS first class is around $3 w/o tracking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:27:45
    Quote from: YUIOP on Wed, 30 April 2014, 06:49:46

    I'm trying to see if I can send it via first class large envelope, assuming bubble mailer is not too thick for this option. 


    A large envelope is going to cost you considerably more than a small envelope, in my experience. Also, if it is less than  3/4" thick it makes a big difference.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuiop on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:49:32
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:27:45
    Quote from: YUIOP on Wed, 30 April 2014, 06:49:46

    I'm trying to see if I can send it via first class large envelope, assuming bubble mailer is not too thick for this option. 



    A large envelope is going to cost you considerably more than a small envelope, in my experience. Also, if it is less than  3/4" thick it makes a big difference.



    I don't see any small envelope option.  It's either letter, large envelope or package (> 3/4 thickness)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:50:41
    Quote from: YUIOP on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:49:32
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:27:45
    Quote from: YUIOP on Wed, 30 April 2014, 06:49:46

    I'm trying to see if I can send it via first class large envelope, assuming bubble mailer is not too thick for this option. 



    A large envelope is going to cost you considerably more than a small envelope, in my experience. Also, if it is less than  3/4" thick it makes a big difference.



    I don't see any small envelope option.  It's either letter, large envelope or package (> 3/4 thickness)

    I think you have to go to the post office to get that option. USPS online is limited when it comes to the 'cheapest' options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuiop on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:53:47
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:50:41
    Quote from: YUIOP on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:49:32
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:27:45
    Quote from: YUIOP on Wed, 30 April 2014, 06:49:46

    I'm trying to see if I can send it via first class large envelope, assuming bubble mailer is not too thick for this option. 



    A large envelope is going to cost you considerably more than a small envelope, in my experience. Also, if it is less than  3/4" thick it makes a big difference.



    I don't see any small envelope option.  It's either letter, large envelope or package (> 3/4 thickness)

    I think you have to go to the post office to get that option. USPS online is limited when it comes to the 'cheapest' options.

    I see.  I thought they list all the options even though online postage is not available in some cases(ie first class)

    bubble mailer I have is 8"x 5"  not sure if this will qualify as a small envelope.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:54:50
    Quote from: YUIOP on Wed, 30 April 2014, 07:53:47
    I see.  I thought they list all the options even though online postage is not available in some cases(ie first class)

    bubble mailer I have is 8"x 5"  not sure if this will qualify as a small envelope.

    I don't think that it's a small envelope. And I agree with Ray, a lot of their options don't seem to be available online. I usually send out international packages at the branch office in person. I guess that mailer will cost around $10 to send just from personal experience.

    I don't remember what the tracking is to Europe but to Canada, a small envelope (small bubble mailer to send out a couple keycaps) costs about $5-6 for First Class. If I want tracking, it's like $19-20. I forgot what they call it though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuiop on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:00:41
    Thanks.  I guess I'll find out soon.  Hopefully it doesn't cost $10+
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:22:35
    FYI, if you use stamps.com, you can print first class postage at home. They even have a free trial period, I believe. For Priority and above, you can use USPS.com.

    The days of cheap ($4) international shipping are gone. When the USPS raised their international rates, the base price for the smallest first class "package" rate (1 or 2 oz) went up to $6.16. From sending many international packages through the post office here, they won't let you send a bubble mailer as an envelope or letter. You also want your bubble mailer to be large enough to attach the small customs form (about the size of a 8.5x11 sheet folded in half, or 8.5x5.5).

    The price of international shipping for flat rate Priority mail boxes is about $25 for a small box, $60 for a medium box, and $80 for a large box. From the US to Canada, it is slightly cheaper, with the small box at $20, medium box at $40, and large box at $60.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuiop on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:35:08
    Thanks for the info, JD.  it sucks that things cost so much more to ship these days :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:37:09
    I have a loose LED on a board, can I just pull it out with pliers? Is it dangerous to leave it in there? It's bent downward, so keycaps fit on no problem, just concerned about it staying on there. I tried to bend it upright and sometimes it lights up - it's 'higher' than it should be when bent upright. If it isn't an issue I don't mind leaving it, I guess the only other option is desoldering and re-soldering it? Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:37:53
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:22:35
    FYI, if you use stamps.com, you can print first class postage at home. They even have a free trial period, I believe. For Priority and above, you can use USPS.com.

    The days of cheap ($4) international shipping are gone. When the USPS raised their international rates, the base price for the smallest first class "package" rate (1 or 2 oz) went up to $6.16. From sending many international packages through the post office here, they won't let you send a bubble mailer as an envelope or letter. You also want your bubble mailer to be large enough to attach the small customs form (about the size of a 8.5x11 sheet folded in half, or 8.5x5.5).

    The price of international shipping for flat rate Priority mail boxes is about $25 for a small box, $60 for a medium box, and $80 for a large box. From the US to Canada, it is slightly cheaper, with the small box at $20, medium box at $40, and large box at $60.

    So sad USPS.com seems to have done away with CONUS first class options :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:38:26
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:37:09
    I have a loose LED on a board, can I just pull it out with pliers? Is it dangerous to leave it in there? It's bent downward, so keycaps fit on no problem, just concerned about it staying on there. I tried to bend it upright and sometimes it lights up - it's 'higher' than it should be when bent upright. If it isn't an issue I don't mind leaving it, I guess the only other option is desoldering and re-soldering it? Thanks


    It's probably soldered in so I don't think you should just rip it out. Desolder and resolder it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:41:48
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:37:09
    I have a loose LED on a board, can I just pull it out with pliers? Is it dangerous to leave it in there? It's bent downward, so keycaps fit on no problem, just concerned about it staying on there. I tried to bend it upright and sometimes it lights up - it's 'higher' than it should be when bent upright. If it isn't an issue I don't mind leaving it, I guess the only other option is desoldering and re-soldering it? Thanks

    By loose you mean somewhere soldered on the PCB without anything surrounding it? Don't pull it out with force. I would recommend you to desolder it. You could also cut it off but if you plan on ever putting in a new one you might have some problems getting the rest of the leads out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:53:52
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:41:48
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:37:09
    I have a loose LED on a board, can I just pull it out with pliers? Is it dangerous to leave it in there? It's bent downward, so keycaps fit on no problem, just concerned about it staying on there. I tried to bend it upright and sometimes it lights up - it's 'higher' than it should be when bent upright. If it isn't an issue I don't mind leaving it, I guess the only other option is desoldering and re-soldering it? Thanks

    By loose you mean somewhere soldered on the PCB without anything surrounding it? Don't pull it out with force. I would recommend you to desolder it. You could also cut it off but if you plan on ever putting in a new one you might have some problems getting the rest of the leads out.

    I just received the board, it's on the home button on a TKL board. It's been bent downward. I bent it back upward and at a certain point, like halfway up it lit up. I haven't ever done any soldering before so was hoping there was an option to deal with it! Maybe leaving it won't cause a problem if I leave it bent down, it's not lighting up in that position, then If I feel up to it at a later date I can desolder it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:56:02
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:53:52
    I just received the board, it's on the home button on a TKL board. It's been bent downward. I bent it back upward and at a certain point, like halfway up it lit up. I haven't ever done any soldering before so was hoping there was an option to deal with it! Maybe leaving it won't cause a problem if I leave it bent down, it's not lighting up in that position, then If I feel up to it at a later date I can desolder it?

    If you just leave it there, I don't think there should be any issue. But someone with more electrical knowledge than myself might be able to tell you otherwise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:56:19
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:53:52
    I just received the board, it's on the home button on a TKL board. It's been bent downward. I bent it back upward and at a certain point, like halfway up it lit up. I haven't ever done any soldering before so was hoping there was an option to deal with it! Maybe leaving it won't cause a problem if I leave it bent down, it's not lighting up in that position, then If I feel up to it at a later date I can desolder it?

    What board is it? Can you take a photo of the LED?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 09:28:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:56:02
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:53:52
    I just received the board, it's on the home button on a TKL board. It's been bent downward. I bent it back upward and at a certain point, like halfway up it lit up. I haven't ever done any soldering before so was hoping there was an option to deal with it! Maybe leaving it won't cause a problem if I leave it bent down, it's not lighting up in that position, then If I feel up to it at a later date I can desolder it?
    If you just leave it there, I don't think there should be any issue. But someone with more electrical knowledge than myself might be able to tell you otherwise.
    Hopefully that's the case! I don't really mind it not working, If it causes no issue I can always do it at a later date.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:56:19
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:53:52
    I just received the board, it's on the home button on a TKL board. It's been bent downward. I bent it back upward and at a certain point, like halfway up it lit up. I haven't ever done any soldering before so was hoping there was an option to deal with it! Maybe leaving it won't cause a problem if I leave it bent down, it's not lighting up in that position, then If I feel up to it at a later date I can desolder it?

    What board is it? Can you take a photo of the LED?

    It's a KMAC. Here;

    (http://i.imgur.com/wFCoVKL.jpg)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 30 April 2014, 09:34:57
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 09:28:41
    It's a KMAC. Here;

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wFCoVKL.jpg)


    I would just leave it as it is if you don't mind it. You can always desolder it later if it bugs you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 09:45:09
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 30 April 2014, 09:34:57
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 30 April 2014, 09:28:41
    It's a KMAC. Here;

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wFCoVKL.jpg)


    I would just leave it as it is if you don't mind it. You can always desolder it later if it bugs you.

    It doesn't bother me and I'd rather not buy soldering equipment to fix it. You can see a dent in the photo on the top right of the board, was obviously dropped in transit + very poor packaging caused this. Annoying but if it won't cause problems being there I don't mind at all. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Shyfe on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:41:10
    Are the HHKB Topre sliders supposed to fall by themselves when the board is unassembled? If that was confusing, I meant that the sliders should go up and down according to gravity when it's unassembled. I lubed it up and I have to push it up and down to move it. I can't recall if it was like that before. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:42:43
    Quote from: Shyfe on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:41:10
    Are the HHKB Topre sliders supposed to fall by themselves when the board is unassembled? If that was confusing, I meant that the sliders should go up and down according to gravity when it's unassembled. I lubed it up and I have to push it up and down to move it. I can't recall if it was like that before. Thanks.

    On my FC660Cs, the sliders move freely with gravity. If your lube is highly viscous, it's probably creating some extra friction. Of course, if the feel is better, it's not necessarily a problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:44:12
    On programmable Korean customs, what is the "GUI" key that is sometimes programmed by default?

    Also, is Alt Gr different than Alt? Another language, perhaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:46:51
    Quote from: Shyfe on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:41:10
    Are the HHKB Topre sliders supposed to fall by themselves when the board is unassembled? If that was confusing, I meant that the sliders should go up and down according to gravity when it's unassembled. I lubed it up and I have to push it up and down to move it. I can't recall if it was like that before. Thanks.

    Uh, not sure about the HHKB Pro 2, but I assume it's the same as with Realforces, and I didn't have to push the unlubed sliders in order for them to move.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:54:24
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:44:12
    On programmable Korean customs, what is the "GUI" key that is sometimes programmed by default?

    Also, is Alt Gr different than Alt? Another language, perhaps?

    GUI is the display like what the EASY AVR uses, yes?

    Alt Gr is what they call the right alt in non US countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key). It works the same as ALT in an ANSI Layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:55:01
    Quote from: Shyfe on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:41:10
    Are the HHKB Topre sliders supposed to fall by themselves when the board is unassembled? If that was confusing, I meant that the sliders should go up and down according to gravity when it's unassembled. I lubed it up and I have to push it up and down to move it. I can't recall if it was like that before. Thanks.
    They should move free by gravity, when you turn the top case upside-down the sliders should fall and flip it they should fall the other way. I am sure they should move freely on a stock HHKB or Realforce from my experience with them. Maybe too thick or heavy lube is holding them from free movement?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 12:05:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:54:24
    GUI is the display like what the EASY AVR uses, yes?

    Alt Gr is what they call the right alt in non US countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key). It works the same as ALT in an ANSI Layout.

    Thanks. Well, yeah, GUI is graphic user interface, but I mean, specifically, what is the key? For example, as seen in the Kingsaver programming tool:

    (http://i.imgur.com/gf0UEYN.png)

    When I was programming my Duck Mini, I believe there was also a key programmed as "GUI" by default.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 30 April 2014, 12:06:28
    GUI is the same thing as the "Windows" key. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 12:06:51
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 30 April 2014, 12:06:28
    GUI is the same thing as the "Windows" key. :)

    Ah, thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 14:28:19
    OK, here I come, with another question!

    I just started an extended writing session on my Duck Mini for the first time, and realized that pressing the Fn key causes other modifiers to be released. I am trying to hold shift and use a Fn layer HHKB-style arrow key shortcut to select text, but it's not working, because the Shift key is being released when I press Fn. What's up with that?!? Is there a way to work around it?

    I could desolder the 1u Fn key, put in a 2.75x right shift (which I might do anyway), and use the right Ctrl with software remapping to achieve roughly the same thing. But, it seems like a serious firmware bug if the keyboard can't support Shift + Fn.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:15:43
    IIRC, that's been a firmware bug (or intended) for a while now. I don't know of any fixes, unfortunately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:19:19
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:15:43
    IIRC, that's been a firmware bug (or intended) for a while now. I don't know of any fixes, unfortunately.

    Shat. Does it affect other Korean customs, too? I thought the Duck Mini used the same controller as most Korean customs. That's a pretty serious bug
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:11:38
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:19:19
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:15:43
    IIRC, that's been a firmware bug (or intended) for a while now. I don't know of any fixes, unfortunately.

    Shat. Does it affect other Korean customs, too? I thought the Duck Mini used the same controller as most Korean customs. That's a pretty serious bug

    I don't actually know, sorry.



    Would someone scan and upload the manual for a ducky shine 3? I don't know if the guy I got mine from is gonna ship it with one or not. I forgot to ask him...

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:49:32
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:11:38
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:19:19
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:15:43
    IIRC, that's been a firmware bug (or intended) for a while now. I don't know of any fixes, unfortunately.

    Shat. Does it affect other Korean customs, too? I thought the Duck Mini used the same controller as most Korean customs. That's a pretty serious bug

    I don't actually know, sorry.



    Would someone scan and upload the manual for a ducky shine 3? I don't know if the guy I got mine from is gonna ship it with one or not. I forgot to ask him...

    Thanks!

    You can download it from ducky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:51:18
    Awesome, thanks. I looked it up and found it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:12:00
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!

    If you have a Korean proxy you can get KMAC's from kbdmod.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:12:45
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!

    There are A LOT of custom keyboards. LZ, KMAC, Duck0113's boards, Lightsavers, Phantoms, and direct wired boards are just off the top of my head. You should really look around the media threads such as the Post your Koreans threads or What did you add to your keyboard today for some ideas.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:19:52
    GON! You forgot GON! I love GON!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:10:38
    Help me identify the caps on these boards?

    (http://i.imgur.com/LPV7Ly2.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/M5rXe4e.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:10:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:12:45
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!

    There are A LOT of custom keyboards. LZ, KMAC, Duck0113's boards, Lightsavers, Phantoms, and direct wired boards are just off the top of my head. You should really look around the media threads such as the Post your Koreans threads or What did you add to your keyboard today for some ideas.
    The problem is I don't know where to buy them pre-assembly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:12:05
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:10:38
    Help me identify the caps on these boards?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/LPV7Ly2.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/M5rXe4e.jpg)

    Dolch set on the first one, not sure on #2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:17:17
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:12:00
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!

    If you have a Korean proxy you can get KMAC's from kbdmod.
    Do you mean a person to order it and ship it to me for a fee? Where would I find such a person?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:19:25
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:10:38
    Help me identify the caps on these boards?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/LPV7Ly2.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/M5rXe4e.jpg)


    1st picture: OG Dolch + some WoB modifiers.
    2nd picture: Looks like a set of OG Cherry Black on Beige doubleshots.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:21:35
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:17:17
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:12:00
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!

    If you have a Korean proxy you can get KMAC's from kbdmod.
    Do you mean a person to order it and ship it to me for a fee? Where would I find such a person?

    Yes, unless you know someone from Korea personally. Maybe you can find someone here on GH, either with a hook up or perhaps there are some people from Korea here who would be willing to proxy for you. Not sure if there are any 'dedicated' KR proxies out there? Someone here might know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:32:34
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:19:52
    GON! You forgot GON! I love GON!

    Honestly, GONs are fantastic, and they're definitely available for self-assembly.  Get one!  GON is also one of the best people to work with; he helped me with things months after I purchased from, he's a great seller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Thu, 01 May 2014, 00:27:50
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:12:00
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!

    If you have a Korean proxy you can get KMAC's from kbdmod.

    There is a KMAC HAPPY in stock. Are the keyboards there pre-assembled unless otherwise stated, or do they come as components?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 01 May 2014, 00:38:03
    Quote from: minho on Thu, 01 May 2014, 00:27:50
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:12:00
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!

    If you have a Korean proxy you can get KMAC's from kbdmod.

    There is a KMAC HAPPY in stock. Are the keyboards there pre-assembled unless otherwise stated, or do they come as components?

    No idea. Maybe there's an option to order with assembly? I don't have personal experience with kbdmod. I'm not sure, but I think dustinhxc (you can PM him and ask) ordered a KMAC Happy from that site.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 01 May 2014, 13:29:55
    Quote from: epzy on Thu, 01 May 2014, 00:38:03
    Quote from: minho on Thu, 01 May 2014, 00:27:50
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:12:00
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:11:00
    What are my options if I want to buy a custom keyboard and build it myself? I really wated to get in on the lightsaver v2 gb but I missed it, and Kmacs are only available on Originative (which seems to be rather sketchy.) Thanks!

    If you have a Korean proxy you can get KMAC's from kbdmod.

    There is a KMAC HAPPY in stock. Are the keyboards there pre-assembled unless otherwise stated, or do they come as components?

    No idea. Maybe there's an option to order with assembly? I don't have personal experience with kbdmod. I'm not sure, but I think dustinhxc (you can PM him and ask) ordered a KMAC Happy from that site.

    Hnng, so much money for just the kit.

    Also, I know how to build kmacs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 01 May 2014, 13:34:10
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:19:25
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:10:38
    Help me identify the caps on these boards?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/LPV7Ly2.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/M5rXe4e.jpg)


    1st picture: OG Dolch + some WoB modifiers.
    2nd picture: Looks like a set of OG Cherry Black on Beige doubleshots.
    2nd picture is dyesubs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 01 May 2014, 15:46:57
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 01 May 2014, 13:34:10
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:19:25
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:10:38
    Help me identify the caps on these boards?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/LPV7Ly2.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/M5rXe4e.jpg)


    1st picture: OG Dolch + some WoB modifiers.
    2nd picture: Looks like a set of OG Cherry Black on Beige doubleshots.
    2nd picture is dyesubs

    Ah, weak brightness on the LEDs then - my LEDs shine through dyesubs like crazy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 01 May 2014, 15:50:48
    Could also just be BSP dyesubs, which are thick and don't let light through.

    Because there isn't a 1x blank, I'm pretty sure those are BSP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 01 May 2014, 16:01:35
    Yeah, but these are just as thick and let light through.

    (http://i.imgur.com/OortsHg.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 01 May 2014, 17:52:06
    Do G81-3000 or G80-3000 cases work with deck legends?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 01 May 2014, 18:23:33
    People who own the tekmats - are they washable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Thu, 01 May 2014, 23:26:21
    thick or very think GH krytox lube for ergo clears using blue springs?

    will blue springs even work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 01 May 2014, 23:28:57
    Quote from: tbc on Thu, 01 May 2014, 23:26:21
    thick or very think GH krytox lube for ergo clears using blue springs?

    will blue springs even work?

    from what ive heard from the koreans is that thin lube+clears+blue/red/brown springs iss the only way to prevent it from sticking
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 02 May 2014, 00:15:28
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 01 May 2014, 23:28:57
    Quote from: tbc on Thu, 01 May 2014, 23:26:21
    thick or very think GH krytox lube for ergo clears using blue springs?

    will blue springs even work?

    from what ive heard from the koreans is that thin lube+clears+blue/red/brown springs iss the only way to prevent it from sticking

    I used brown springs with clear stems and no lube for a few months before I got my lube.  Not one key stuck.  I was using a stock clear spring in the spacebar though.  And they were used clear stems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 02 May 2014, 03:05:02
    Is there a guide on Cherry POS keyboards and their keycaps anywhere? I'm interested in purchasing one off eBay, preferably with doubleshots.

    Additionally, what other keycaps will I need to complete a standard set with Cherry doubleshots, and where can I purchase this? (Is Moogle kit enough? Is there one that exists that is a replica of Cherry doubleshots?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Fri, 02 May 2014, 04:43:29
    What caps are these?

    (http://i.imgur.com/Ej3INDU.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Fri, 02 May 2014, 05:52:25
    Quote from: combataran on Fri, 02 May 2014, 04:43:29
    What caps are these?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Ej3INDU.jpg)

    They are BSP dyesubs with a mix of DESKO rgb set. (from DanGWanG's blog (http://dangwang.wordpress.com/page/2/))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:17:19
    Quote from: Candyflip on Fri, 02 May 2014, 05:52:25
    Quote from: combataran on Fri, 02 May 2014, 04:43:29
    What caps are these?

    More
    They are BSP dyesubs with a mix of DESKO rgb set. (from DanGWanG's blog (http://dangwang.wordpress.com/page/2/))

    The orange legends should also be from a Desko iirc.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 01 May 2014, 23:28:57
    Quote from: tbc on Thu, 01 May 2014, 23:26:21
    thick or very think GH krytox lube for ergo clears using blue springs?

    will blue springs even work?

    from what ive heard from the koreans is that thin lube+clears+blue/red/brown springs iss the only way to prevent it from sticking

    So the Koreans are using mkawas kits? :rolleyes:
    The thick lube should work I think. The very thick lube is meant to be used for Topre.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:25:29
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 01 May 2014, 18:23:33
    People who own the tekmats - are they washable?

    Yes but I only hand wash them. Mine's fraying from normal usage at work so I wouldn't throw it in a washing machine.

    Quote from: minho on Fri, 02 May 2014, 03:05:02
    1) Is there a guide on Cherry POS keyboards and their keycaps anywhere?

    2) Additionally, what other keycaps will I need to complete a standard set with Cherry doubleshots, and where can I purchase this? Is Moogle kit enough?

    3) Is there one that exists that is a replica of Cherry doubleshots?

    1) Check out this article from DT Wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers)

    2) You'll need a Moogle, CMYK set, or perhaps order from the CYMW set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54039.0) coming up. I'm currently unsure which stock Cherry boards have a centered 1.25x ANSI mod row.

    3) Yes, tinlong is running a GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57669.0) for them now.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 01 May 2014, 17:52:06
    Do G81-3000 or G80-3000 cases work with deck legends?

    Taking a quick look at the two keyboards, there seems to be slight differences in the bezels. I'm going to guess no but I'm not 100% sure.


    Guys can we start using multi-quote? Double and triple posting is making this thread a little messy for when I go back through it. Please and thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Beca on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:29:27
    is the techkeys lube kit the same as the one on originative's site?

    http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant

    identical description. I wish it wasn't marked up though :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:30:18
    Quote from: Beca on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:29:27
    is the techkeys lube kit the same as the one on originative's site?

    http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant

    identical description. I wish it wasn't marked up though :/

    Yes. The lube kits at MechanicalKeyboards.com, TechKeys.us, and Originative are all the same. They're kits made and distributed by mkawa.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Beca on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:32:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:30:18
    Quote from: Beca on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:29:27
    is the techkeys lube kit the same as the one on originative's site?

    http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant

    identical description. I wish it wasn't marked up though :/

    Yes. The lube kits at MechanicalKeyboards.com, TechKeys.us, and Originative are all the same. They're kits made and distributed by mkawa.
    I see, thanks. And what lube would you use for vintage blacks? it says thin in the description but in searching through threads, people recommend thick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:35:37
    Quote from: Beca on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:32:34
    And what lube would you use for vintage blacks?

    I mixed my own lube when I went to visit mkawa. My formulation is very similar to the thin formulation of lube. I have lubed vintage black stems with 65g springs on my Epsilon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Beca on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:39:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:35:37
    Quote from: Beca on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:32:34
    And what lube would you use for vintage blacks?

    I mixed my own lube when I went to visit mkawa. My formulation is very similar to the thin formulation of lube. I have lubed vintage black stems with 65g springs on my Epsilon.
    awesome, thanks for the help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Fri, 02 May 2014, 13:41:18
    mx clears = mx tactile grays right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 02 May 2014, 13:41:56
    Quote from: Jixr on Fri, 02 May 2014, 13:41:18
    mx clears = mx tactile grays right?

    Tactile greys are heavier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 02 May 2014, 13:42:02
    Quote from: Jixr on Fri, 02 May 2014, 13:41:18
    mx clears = mx tactile grays right?

    tactile grays are heavier

    meh...ninja'd
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Fri, 02 May 2014, 13:53:36
    by how much, blacks are about equal to 80g koreans, ( i've never used clears or grays, but am going to for my next build )

    but the bump profile is the same correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 13:56:42
    Quote from: Jixr on Fri, 02 May 2014, 13:53:36
    by how much, blacks are about equal to 80g koreans, ( i've never used clears or grays, but am going to for my next build )

    but the bump profile is the same correct?

    Bump feels the same to me. MX Tactile Grey (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Tactile_Grey), according to the DT wiki, is 80 cN at actuation. Clear (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Clear) is 55 cN.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SL89 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:07:42
    I know keycap profiles have different values.
    (Row 1 on an SA is shaped differently from Row 3 on an SA set.)

    But are there keyboards that have the switches installed at different angle?
    (Row 1 angled 'forward' to 80° , while Row 3 is 'standard' at 90° to the plate / board)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:09:48
    Quote from: SL89 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:07:42
    But are there keyboards that have the switches installed at different angle?
    (Row 1 angled 'forward' to 80° , while Row 3 is 'standard' at 90° to the plate / board)

    I've seen a few keyboards (Ducky Shine 2 and Epsilon come to mind) with a rotated switch or switches. It doesn't change how the switch feels. But the're only rotated either upside down (180 from normal) or clocked at 90 degrees.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:12:50
    Will all the key caps from an old Cherry G80-1800 fit a modern keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:14:38
    Quote from: elton5354 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:12:50
    Will all the key caps from an old Cherry G80-1800 fit a modern keyboard?

    The mod rows won't fit a standard 1.25x ANSI keyboard but the other caps should be fine. Oh and the right shift and capslock will be off too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:15:27
    i LOVE heavy switches, every thing I have are blacks or greens, but am considering grays or clears for my next build and am unsure of which to go off of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:17:18
    Quote from: Jixr on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:15:27
    i LOVE heavy switches, every thing I have are blacks or greens, but am considering grays or clears for my next build and am unsure of which to go off of.

    Greens and Tactile Greys are rated at the same actuation force but I found that Greys are too heavy for me. But I like Greens. It's odd but that's just what I like. Stock Clears are very nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:20:32
    Quote from: Jixr on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:15:27
    i LOVE heavy switches, every thing I have are blacks or greens, but am considering grays or clears for my next build and am unsure of which to go off of.

    Clears will feel pretty light if you don't bottom out, btw.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:40:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:09:48
    Quote from: SL89 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:07:42
    But are there keyboards that have the switches installed at different angle?
    (Row 1 angled 'forward' to 80° , while Row 3 is 'standard' at 90° to the plate / board)

    I've seen a few keyboards (Ducky Shine 2 and Epsilon come to mind) with a rotated switch in a few spots. It doesn't change how the switch feels. But the're only rotated either upside down (180 from normal) or clocked at 90 degrees.

    I think he meant a bit rotated around the horizontal axis? Basically to enhance the profile. The Model M has this as its plate is bent, also some ergo keyboards like the Kinesis Advantage do this. It is kind of difficult as the PCB has to be flexible or each row has to have its own PCB, thus manufacturers rather create the profile curve via the keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:41:56
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:40:12
    I think he meant a bit rotated around the horizontal axis?

    You're rotated a bit around the horizontal axis :|
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:48:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:41:56
    You're rotated a bit around the horizontal axis :|

    Rude! Racist! :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:51:44
    Just because he's german doesn't mean he's Axis... incredibly racist CDTNewAss
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 22:36:07
    Are there any mass-produced winkeyless tenkeyless boards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:25:06
    Alright I know that the default size for costar stabilizer wires is listed as .047".  However, does anyone know if .045" or .051" will work?  The reason I am asking is because I found some PTFE coated spring temper 304 stainless wire but it is pretty expensive.  List price at the website I found was $64.47 for a single 70 inch long piece of it.  And I was wondering if the size difference would make much difference if at all.  I was thinking of leaning toward the .045" as it is dimensionally closer and would be a touch easier to fit into the proper places, along with being slightly easier to bend without cracking and breaking (a serious consideration at this price).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:31:24
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:25:06
    Alright I know that the default size for costar stabilizer wires is listed as .047".  However, does anyone know if .045" or .051" will work?  The reason I am asking is because I found some PTFE coated spring temper 304 stainless wire but it is pretty expensive.  List price at the website I found was $64.47 for a single 70 inch long piece of it.  And I was wondering if the size difference would make much difference if at all.  I was thinking of leaning toward the .045" as it is dimensionally closer and would be a touch easier to fit into the proper places, along with being slightly easier to bend without cracking and breaking (a serious consideration at this price).

    Are you asking this because you're having difficulty finding the appropriate wire, or you prefer to use a wire type which doesn't come in the suggested size?  I found the suggested wire for pretty cheap, so I'd expect you would be able to as well, unless I'm misunderstanding the situation here. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:49:07
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:31:24
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:25:06
    Alright I know that the default size for costar stabilizer wires is listed as .047".  However, does anyone know if .045" or .051" will work?  The reason I am asking is because I found some PTFE coated spring temper 304 stainless wire but it is pretty expensive.  List price at the website I found was $64.47 for a single 70 inch long piece of it.  And I was wondering if the size difference would make much difference if at all.  I was thinking of leaning toward the .045" as it is dimensionally closer and would be a touch easier to fit into the proper places, along with being slightly easier to bend without cracking and breaking (a serious consideration at this price).

    Are you asking this because you're having difficulty finding the appropriate wire, or you prefer to use a wire type which doesn't come in the suggested size?  I found the suggested wire for pretty cheap, so I'd expect you would be able to as well, unless I'm misunderstanding the situation here.

    Asking because I found a different wire that is PTFE coated (permanant lubrication on the wire) but the closest 2 sizes are .002" under or .004" over sized.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:56:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:49:07
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:31:24
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:25:06
    Alright I know that the default size for costar stabilizer wires is listed as .047".  However, does anyone know if .045" or .051" will work?  The reason I am asking is because I found some PTFE coated spring temper 304 stainless wire but it is pretty expensive.  List price at the website I found was $64.47 for a single 70 inch long piece of it.  And I was wondering if the size difference would make much difference if at all.  I was thinking of leaning toward the .045" as it is dimensionally closer and would be a touch easier to fit into the proper places, along with being slightly easier to bend without cracking and breaking (a serious consideration at this price).

    Are you asking this because you're having difficulty finding the appropriate wire, or you prefer to use a wire type which doesn't come in the suggested size?  I found the suggested wire for pretty cheap, so I'd expect you would be able to as well, unless I'm misunderstanding the situation here.

    Asking because I found a different wire that is PTFE coated (permanant lubrication on the wire) but the closest 2 sizes are .002" under or .004" over sized.

    Ahhh, yes, so you're seeking that property.  Got it.  Just wasn't sure if you wanted that or were "settling" for it.  Hmm.  Well, I would suspect that you might prefer it to be oversized if anything, to avoid any rattle that might occur, but you obviously don't want to go on a hunch that I have when it costs that much.  I wonder if you could find a cheaper material in those sizes to test the fit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mkawa on Sat, 03 May 2014, 00:00:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:25:06
    Alright I know that the default size for costar stabilizer wires is listed as .047".  However, does anyone know if .045" or .051" will work?  The reason I am asking is because I found some PTFE coated spring temper 304 stainless wire but it is pretty expensive.  List price at the website I found was $64.47 for a single 70 inch long piece of it.  And I was wondering if the size difference would make much difference if at all.  I was thinking of leaning toward the .045" as it is dimensionally closer and would be a touch easier to fit into the proper places, along with being slightly easier to bend without cracking and breaking (a serious consideration at this price).
    ptfe coating metals is actually pretty easy if you have access to krytox. thinned krytox grease is basically self-leveling ptfe powder. coat, then hit it with a butane torch. quench in solvent (i use acetone). repeat for a thicker layer. lubricity of thinned krytox is high enough that you're using very little lubricant + ptfe mix to get a thin, even layer. anything you manage to burn into carbon (maybe some pfpe strands, but more likely excess ptfe) will come off in the solvent with the nucleation of quenching. i've coated a whole bunch of 3d printer cold-ends this way and it's pretty fantastic. usually when ptfe is used for printer cold ends, it's a thick liner and acts as a serious thermal barrier. the 10-20mic layer you get from this process reduces coefficient of friction but is too thin to be a thermal barrier.

    oh, keep in mind that a hell of a lot of formaldehyde is released whenever ptfe melts. ventilation is quite key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 00:05:40
    Quote from: mkawa on Sat, 03 May 2014, 00:00:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 02 May 2014, 23:25:06
    Alright I know that the default size for costar stabilizer wires is listed as .047".  However, does anyone know if .045" or .051" will work?  The reason I am asking is because I found some PTFE coated spring temper 304 stainless wire but it is pretty expensive.  List price at the website I found was $64.47 for a single 70 inch long piece of it.  And I was wondering if the size difference would make much difference if at all.  I was thinking of leaning toward the .045" as it is dimensionally closer and would be a touch easier to fit into the proper places, along with being slightly easier to bend without cracking and breaking (a serious consideration at this price).
    ptfe coating metals is actually pretty easy if you have access to krytox. thinned krytox grease is basically self-leveling ptfe powder. coat, then hit it with a butane torch. quench in solvent (i use acetone). repeat for a thicker layer. lubricity of thinned krytox is high enough that you're using very little lubricant + ptfe mix to get a thin, even layer. anything you manage to burn into carbon (maybe some pfpe strands, but more likely excess ptfe) will come off in the solvent with the nucleation of quenching. i've coated a whole bunch of 3d printer cold-ends this way and it's pretty fantastic. usually when ptfe is used for printer cold ends, it's a thick liner and acts as a serious thermal barrier. the 10-20mic layer you get from this process reduces coefficient of friction but is too thin to be a thermal barrier.

    oh, keep in mind that a hell of a lot of formaldehyde is released whenever ptfe melts. ventilation is quite key.

    Thanks for the info on that mkawa.  I will have to give that a try.  Any suggestions on if carbon steels or stainless lets the coatings stick better?  I do still have most of that krytox I got from you.  I used half the thin with just a touch of the thick mixed in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 03 May 2014, 09:11:20
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 22:36:07
    Are there any mass-produced winkeyless tenkeyless boards?

    Don't think so. None come to mind at the moment at least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sth on Sat, 03 May 2014, 15:10:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:14:38
    Quote from: elton5354 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 14:12:50
    Will all the key caps from an old Cherry G80-1800 fit a modern keyboard?

    The mod rows won't fit a standard 1.25x ANSI keyboard but the other caps should be fine. Oh and the right shift and capslock will be off too.

    if you're a profile stickler, the delete, pg down and end keys are also the wrong profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Sat, 03 May 2014, 16:23:54
    anyone else get "Awaiting Approval" when posting int the classy's? did that change recently?  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 03 May 2014, 16:26:46
    Quote from: digi on Sat, 03 May 2014, 16:23:54
    anyone else get "Awaiting Approval" when posting int the classy's? did that change recently?  :rolleyes:
    Is it red?

    PM an online mod or admin and they can look at it and approve it.

    Usually that's when a post triggers the spam filter for whatever reason (usually it has links or pictures), but it can be for other reasons. Do you have your pictures present and properly tagged with your name/date?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Sat, 03 May 2014, 16:28:09
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 03 May 2014, 16:26:46
    Quote from: digi on Sat, 03 May 2014, 16:23:54
    anyone else get "Awaiting Approval" when posting int the classy's? did that change recently?  :rolleyes:
    Is it red?

    PM an online mod or admin and they can look at it and approve it.

    Usually that's when a post triggers the spam filter for whatever reason (usually it has links or pictures), but it can be for other reasons. Do you have your pictures present and properly tagged with your name/date?

    Thanks for the info but yea it's just a normal post, nothing out of the ordinary, I was thinking it was a false positive or something. Never seen that before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:01:51
    What's the best way to open cherry MX switches? is using a tool such as the beasts or that binder clip mod necessary?

    Also is it possible to open plate mounted switches like on the poker without desoldering first?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:02:43
    What are the benefits of Korean custom made keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brad 808 on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:03:55
    So, looking for a source for plate mount stabilizers, cherry or costar. It seems that WASD is out and I can't google up a good source.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:04:07
    So I just finished up bolt modding a Lexmark M with a new barrel plate and while everything works in aquakeytest, a couple keeps sound different.  moslty a couple around the T and the enter in the numpad area.  The enter in the numpad area has an extra "pin" upon release.  Also the "T" doesn't register until almost all the way down.  It does click at the actuation point just doesn't happen at the same place in the keystroke as the rest of the keys. 

    Would this be a good indicator of time to replace the springs and hammers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:06:53
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:02:43
    What are the benefits of Korean custom made keyboards?

    Custom (obviously), programmable, aesthetics, heavy (solid feel)... maybe someone else wants to add onto this list.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:09:47
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:02:43
    What are the benefits of Korean custom made keyboards?

    Metal case, programmable, sometimes with programmable backlighting. Also, because they require assembly you can really customize them to make it "your" keyboard.

    Quote from: minho on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:01:51
    1. What's the best way to open cherry MX switches? is using a tool such as the beasts or that binder clip mod necessary?
    2. Also is it possible to open plate mounted switches like on the poker without desoldering first?

    1. There is no real best way but beast switch tools are pretty nice. Apart from that pretty much anything goes:
    2. No, not unless you have a custom aftermarket plate.

    Quote from: digi on Sat, 03 May 2014, 16:28:09
    Thanks for the info but yea it's just a normal post, nothing out of the ordinary, I was thinking it was a false positive or something. Never seen that before.

    Afaik for now all classifieds threads have to be approved because many people didn't follow the new rules.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:17:24
    Quote from: Brad 808 on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:03:55
    So, looking for a source for plate mount stabilizers, cherry or costar. It seems that WASD is out and I can't google up a good source.

    There is information on stabilizer sources in the beginning of this thread, first page.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:38:53
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:09:47
    1. There is no real best way but beast switch tools are pretty nice. Apart from that pretty much anything goes:
    2. No, not unless you have a custom aftermarket plate.

    I see. Thanks for posting that video, are there more video tutorial type things somewhere? I vaguely recall mkawa starting a series, but I forgot where on the forum he posted it...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:46:37
    Quote from: minho on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:38:53
    I see. Thanks for posting that video, are there more video tutorial type things somewhere? I vaguely recall mkawa starting a series, but I forgot where on the forum he posted it...

    You can find the GH channel here: https://www.youtube.com/user/geekhackin
    I would also recommend WhiteFireDragon's videos.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 21:56:39
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:04:07
    So I just finished up bolt modding a Lexmark M with a new barrel plate and while everything works in aquakeytest, a couple keeps sound different.  moslty a couple around the T and the enter in the numpad area.  The enter in the numpad area has an extra "pin" upon release.  Also the "T" doesn't register until almost all the way down.  It does click at the actuation point just doesn't happen at the same place in the keystroke as the rest of the keys. 

    Would this be a good indicator of time to replace the springs and hammers?

    Not trying to double post my question but after thinking about this, could this be caused by the screws being to tight?  This seems plausible because the sandwich isn't letting the hammers strike, and delaying the return motion causing the exaggerated ping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 03 May 2014, 22:13:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 21:56:39
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:04:07
    So I just finished up bolt modding a Lexmark M with a new barrel plate and while everything works in aquakeytest, a couple keeps sound different.  moslty a couple around the T and the enter in the numpad area.  The enter in the numpad area has an extra "pin" upon release.  Also the "T" doesn't register until almost all the way down.  It does click at the actuation point just doesn't happen at the same place in the keystroke as the rest of the keys. 

    Would this be a good indicator of time to replace the springs and hammers?

    Not trying to double post my question but after thinking about this, could this be caused by the screws being to tight?  This seems plausible because the sandwich isn't letting the hammers strike, and delaying the return motion causing the exaggerated ping.

    Yes, this can be it. I had a similar issue on one of my Ms.

    Make sure they are all only "finger" tight.

    I was going to post this in response to your first question anyway. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 22:14:39
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 03 May 2014, 22:13:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 21:56:39
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:04:07
    So I just finished up bolt modding a Lexmark M with a new barrel plate and while everything works in aquakeytest, a couple keeps sound different.  moslty a couple around the T and the enter in the numpad area.  The enter in the numpad area has an extra "pin" upon release.  Also the "T" doesn't register until almost all the way down.  It does click at the actuation point just doesn't happen at the same place in the keystroke as the rest of the keys. 

    Would this be a good indicator of time to replace the springs and hammers?

    Not trying to double post my question but after thinking about this, could this be caused by the screws being to tight?  This seems plausible because the sandwich isn't letting the hammers strike, and delaying the return motion causing the exaggerated ping.

    Yes, this can be it. I had a similar issue on one of my Ms.

    Make sure they are all only "finger" tight.

    I was going to post this in response to your first question anyway. :)

    Alright, I will back them off.  I actually tightened them down with a nut driver.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 03 May 2014, 22:21:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 22:14:39
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 03 May 2014, 22:13:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 21:56:39
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 03 May 2014, 17:04:07
    So I just finished up bolt modding a Lexmark M with a new barrel plate and while everything works in aquakeytest, a couple keeps sound different.  moslty a couple around the T and the enter in the numpad area.  The enter in the numpad area has an extra "pin" upon release.  Also the "T" doesn't register until almost all the way down.  It does click at the actuation point just doesn't happen at the same place in the keystroke as the rest of the keys. 

    Would this be a good indicator of time to replace the springs and hammers?

    Not trying to double post my question but after thinking about this, could this be caused by the screws being to tight?  This seems plausible because the sandwich isn't letting the hammers strike, and delaying the return motion causing the exaggerated ping.

    Yes, this can be it. I had a similar issue on one of my Ms.

    Make sure they are all only "finger" tight.

    I was going to post this in response to your first question anyway. :)

    Alright, I will back them off.  I actually tightened them down with a nut driver.
    I use a small nut driver attachment for my precision screwdriver set, and it works quite well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Sun, 04 May 2014, 04:08:40
    are people finding that dsa caps are hard to pull off on pcb mounted clears?

    i ended up completely malforming the latches on a switch i put onto my techkeys pcbs.  the top now 'bobs' and wiggles whenever imtap it with any pressure.  obviously, this isn't a big deal, but i'm not sure if the switch would survive after many more 'uncappings'
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 04 May 2014, 05:11:31
    Quote from: tbc on Sun, 04 May 2014, 04:08:40
    are people finding that dsa caps are hard to pull off on pcb mounted clears?

    DSA caps are a bit tighter and clear stems are a bit thicker, so yes, this is a known issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 04 May 2014, 06:08:40
    Quote from: BlueB�r on Sun, 04 May 2014, 05:11:31
    Quote from: tbc on Sun, 04 May 2014, 04:08:40
    are people finding that dsa caps are hard to pull off on pcb mounted clears?

    DSA caps are a bit tighter and clear stems are a bit thicker, so yes, this is a known issue.

    This is by design - see SP FAQ#22: http://keycapsdirect.com/faq.php#22
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 04 May 2014, 06:12:50
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 04 May 2014, 06:08:40
    This is by design - see SP FAQ#22: http://keycapsdirect.com/faq.php#22

    With issue I mean that the combination of DSA and Clears can cause trouble, not the DSA caps being tighter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Sun, 04 May 2014, 12:00:19
    sorry, i wasn't being very clear.

    normally caps are so easy to get off, having a plate doesn't really do anything.

    since pcb mounted clear with dsa on is hard to get off, do you think plate mounted clear with dsa would be easier?

    this is important because i already broke a clear top and damaged a regular top and i don't have an infinite supply of tops.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 04 May 2014, 12:09:20
    Quote from: tbc on Sun, 04 May 2014, 12:00:19
    sorry, i wasn't being very clear.

    normally caps are so easy to get off, having a plate doesn't really do anything.

    since pcb mounted clear with dsa on is hard to get off, do you think plate mounted clear with dsa would be easier?

    this is important because i already broke a clear top and damaged a regular top and i don't have an infinite supply of tops.

    The top part of the switch housing is not really connected to the plate so I guess that it wouldn't be easier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 04 May 2014, 14:27:55
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/281305381161?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

    Is this lasered PBT or POM?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 May 2014, 14:42:29
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 04 May 2014, 14:27:55
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/281305381161?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

    Is this lasered PBT or POM?

    If it's beige, it's PBT. If it's black it's POM. So It should be PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 04 May 2014, 14:44:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 May 2014, 14:42:29
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 04 May 2014, 14:27:55
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/281305381161?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

    Is this lasered PBT or POM?

    If it's beige, it's PBT. If it's black it's POM. So It should be PBT.

    Well, that makes it simple. Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:07:49
    What else can I do besides lining the case bottom with foam filler, to dampen sounds coming from the keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:14:09
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:07:49
    What else can I do besides lining the case bottom with foam filler, to dampen sounds coming from the keyboard?

    O-rings or landing pads work quite well. You can also try to not bottom out which will decrease sound a lot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:16:42
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:07:49
    What else can I do besides lining the case bottom with foam filler, to dampen sounds coming from the keyboard?

    You can also put some sort of pad underneath the keyboard between it and the desk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:18:46
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:07:49
    What else can I do besides lining the case bottom with foam filler, to dampen sounds coming from the keyboard?

    For my Ducky Shine 2 Mod (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49622.msg1092706#msg1092706), I used some 0.8mm rubber tape on the underside of the plate and the inside of the bottom housing for sound dampening:

    (http://imageshack.us/a/img197/8760/oou1.jpg)

    (http://imageshack.us/a/img199/7343/gpbk.jpg)

    (http://imageshack.us/a/img703/3210/uilt.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:21:34
    Quote from: infiniti on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:18:46
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:07:49
    What else can I do besides lining the case bottom with foam filler, to dampen sounds coming from the keyboard?

    For my Ducky Shine 2 Mod (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49622.msg1092706#msg1092706), I used some 0.8mm rubber tape on the underside of the plate and the inside of the bottom housing for sound dampening:

    How's the sound? Close to this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:24:58
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:21:34
    Quote from: infiniti on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:18:46
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:07:49
    What else can I do besides lining the case bottom with foam filler, to dampen sounds coming from the keyboard?

    For my Ducky Shine 2 Mod (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49622.msg1092706#msg1092706), I used some 0.8mm rubber tape on the underside of the plate and the inside of the bottom housing for sound dampening:

    How's the sound? Close to this?

    It's not going to sound the same since that LZ-CE has a different case. As mentioned previously, a lot of factors go into making the LZ-CE sound the way it does and just foam liner and o-rings isn't going to make it sound like that. Case material, mounting style, desk material, what you place the keyboard on, typing style, and spring weight all play a factor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:01:51
    Hey guys, on my kmac, the WASD keys have LEDs - I have some cherry profile bsp keycaps on the board and it feels like the LEDs are a little high and the keys touch them as they are pressed. It doesn't bother me whilst typing at all, so as long as it isn't harming the board in any way but it's annoying just knowing it does it. I tried some doubleshots on there and since they don't have those stability X's in the molds, it doesn't do it. Is there anything I can do about this aside from desolder the LED or not use pbt keycaps? I guess I'll have to live with it.

    I actually noticed putting cherry profile pbt's on my Pure, the one with the alu case - the LEDs on the asdf row touch the keys slightly too.

    Also not sure if I'm allowed to ask here, but know of anywhere I can get gold 62g springs in the west atm?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:18:55
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:01:51
    1) On my kmac, the WASD keys have LEDs - I have some cherry profile bsp keycaps on the board and it feels like the LEDs are a little high and the keys touch them as they are pressed. I tried some doubleshots on there and since they don't have those stability X's in the molds, it doesn't do it. Is there anything I can do about this aside from desolder the LED or not use pbt keycaps?

    2) Anywhere I can get gold 62g springs in the west atm?

    1) Seems like the inner profile of the keycaps is causing the issue? You can either try dremeling out that X on the caps or desolder the LEDs. If you're not comfortable with desoldering, I believe margo baggins is in the UK and does modding services for a fee.

    2) I think sprit was running a GB for gold springs (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0) and you just missed out. I see there's a rumor that sprit may have extras but you can try to get in on a future round or buy from someone who might have been on the sale. Also you can try your luck with Originative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:25:46
    If they're the domed type of LEDs, lower profile caps were known to cause that issue. The tops of the LEDs can be sanded down to provide better clearance. Otherwise, the rectangular 2x3x4 LEDs to replace them are recommended.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:28:01
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:25:46
    If they're the domed type of LEDs, lower profile caps were known to cause that issue. The tops of the LEDs can be sanded down to provide better clearance. Otherwise, the rectangular 2x3x4 LEDs to replace them are recommended.

    They are the domed type. Is there any info regarding good ways to sand them down or is it just a case of putting some sandpaper to them carefully until it doesn't do it anymore?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:30:46
    Everything I've seen just says sand them a little. I would say sand a little at a time, and check the caps for clearance until you get it right. One or some might need to be sanded a bit more than others due to profile changes between rows, but just doing a little at a time and checking in between should get you there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Wed, 07 May 2014, 14:25:07
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:30:46
    Everything I've seen just says sand them a little. I would say sand a little at a time, and check the caps for clearance until you get it right. One or some might need to be sanded a bit more than others due to profile changes between rows, but just doing a little at a time and checking in between should get you there.

    I feel it won't take much sanding as it's literally the cross of plastic that it touches ever so slightly, if I rock the key I can pretty much feel it resting on the very top of the LED. Thanks a lot for the help, I never even thought to sand the LED's.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:18:55
    Quote from: b7ad on Wed, 07 May 2014, 13:01:51
    1) On my kmac, the WASD keys have LEDs - I have some cherry profile bsp keycaps on the board and it feels like the LEDs are a little high and the keys touch them as they are pressed. I tried some doubleshots on there and since they don't have those stability X's in the molds, it doesn't do it. Is there anything I can do about this aside from desolder the LED or not use pbt keycaps?

    2) Anywhere I can get gold 62g springs in the west atm?

    1) Seems like the inner profile of the keycaps is causing the issue? You can either try dremeling out that X on the caps or desolder the LEDs. If you're not comfortable with desoldering, I believe margo baggins is in the UK and does modding services for a fee.

    2) I think sprit was running a GB for gold springs (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0) and you just missed out. I see there's a rumor that sprit may have extras but you can try to get in on a future round or buy from someone who might have been on the sale. Also you can try your luck with Originative.

    Yes Captain, it is indeed the inner profile of the keycaps! I thought about dremeling out the X, I had never thought about sanding the top of the LED's though. Also thanks for bringing up margo baggins, could be helpful in the future, definitely not comfortable with soldering/desoldering, although I want to get in to it at some point, maybe just not with my kmac as a jumping off point!

    In regard to the gold springs, thanks for that I totally missed the group buy but will keep an eye on the thread. I believe originative are out of stock unfortunately.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 07 May 2014, 20:05:47
    Has anyone heard about, or is there going to be a new manufacturer for Topre keycaps now that Topre corp has stopped production?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Thu, 08 May 2014, 01:17:51
    Hi guys!
    Regarding realforce EK sales...  Have you any idea how long it will be "active"?
    I'm just going crazy trying to make the decision of buying or not realforce 55gr...
    Would be great if I  could 'wait'  a couple of months more...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 02:33:47
    Do you guys know if it is possible to order a single stepper caps lock keycap anywhere?  I want one for my cm qf xt. The options I can think of is a custom one from signature plastics or source it from another keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 May 2014, 07:53:18
    Quote from: juguerre on Thu, 08 May 2014, 01:17:51
    Hi guys!
    Regarding realforce EK sales...  Have you any idea how long it will be "active"?
    I'm just going crazy trying to make the decision of buying or not realforce 55gr...
    Would be great if I  could 'wait'  a couple of months more...

    Until they run out of stock. Not really sure when that will be.

    Quote from: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 02:33:47
    Do you guys know if it is possible to order a single stepper caps lock keycap anywhere?  I want one for my cm qf xt. The options I can think of is a custom one from signature plastics or source it from another keyboard.

    TechKeys.us has some center stemmed stepped caps lock.

    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 07 May 2014, 20:05:47
    Has anyone heard about, or is there going to be a new manufacterer for Topre keycaps now that Topre corp has stopped production?

    I haven't heard anything about the Topre keycaps since the rumors started that Topre is stopping production.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sth on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:01:03
    who has the best blog on geekhack?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:03:35
    Quote from: sth on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:01:03
    who has the best blog on geekhack?

    this guy? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57199.0)

    but for external hosted ones, I have always enjoyed mashby's http://cpkey.com/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:13:28
    Quote from: sth on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:01:03
    who has the best blog on geekhack?

    I remember reading about the Fierce Horse legend somewhere...

    In addition to thin hamster and fierce horse stories, I really like Komar's blog and obra's blog (http://blog.fsck.com/).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:22:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:13:28
    Quote from: sth on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:01:03
    who has the best blog on geekhack?

    I remember reading about the Fierce Horse legend somewhere...

    In addition to thin hamster and fierce horse stories, I really like Komar's blog and obra's blog.

    Totally forgot about Komar, if you want some deep keyboard knowledge he has it. :D

    For those that don't know where it is http://blog.komar.be/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:54:36
    Has anyone done a back light mod using parallel EL mat on a model M or any keyboard for that matter? 

    I have seen a couple examples of people using el wire but with limited cosmetic success.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 09:28:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 May 2014, 07:53:18
    Quote from: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 02:33:47
    Do you guys know if it is possible to order a single stepper caps lock keycap anywhere?  I want one for my cm qf xt. The options I can think of is a custom one from signature plastics or source it from another keyboard.

    TechKeys.us has some center stemmed stepped caps lock.

    Thanks! Too bad theyre sold out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 May 2014, 09:29:58
    Quote from: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 09:28:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 May 2014, 07:53:18
    Quote from: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 02:33:47
    Do you guys know if it is possible to order a single stepper caps lock keycap anywhere?  I want one for my cm qf xt. The options I can think of is a custom one from signature plastics or source it from another keyboard.

    TechKeys.us has some center stemmed stepped caps lock.

    Thanks! Too bad theyre sold out.

    Does PimpMyKeyboard have it? I can't remember what they're selling there. It's SP's novelty cap site.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 May 2014, 09:34:25
    Quote from: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 09:28:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 May 2014, 07:53:18
    Quote from: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 02:33:47
    Do you guys know if it is possible to order a single stepper caps lock keycap anywhere?  I want one for my cm qf xt. The options I can think of is a custom one from signature plastics or source it from another keyboard.

    TechKeys.us has some center stemmed stepped caps lock.

    Thanks! Too bad theyre sold out.


    The black and white with wyse font is available at techkeys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 13:25:51
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 May 2014, 09:34:25
    Quote from: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 09:28:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 May 2014, 07:53:18
    Quote from: blackbox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 02:33:47
    Do you guys know if it is possible to order a single stepper caps lock keycap anywhere?  I want one for my cm qf xt. The options I can think of is a custom one from signature plastics or source it from another keyboard.

    TechKeys.us has some center stemmed stepped caps lock.
    yea I looked to quickly there. thanks.
    Thanks! Too bad theyre sold out.


    The black and white with wyse font is available at techkeys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Thu, 08 May 2014, 16:06:36
    Anyone know how or have a link for how to make a cable to connect a poker or other mini-usb keyboard to a phone? Needs to me without an adaptor. Cable needs to have one end micro (with OTG ability) and the other end Mini for the keyboard. I've got connectors and cable just need to know the pinouts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 08 May 2014, 16:14:15
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Thu, 08 May 2014, 16:06:36
    Anyone know how or have a link for how to make a cable to connect a poker or other mini-usb keyboard to a phone? Needs to me without an adaptor. Cable needs to have one end micro (with OTG ability) and the other end Mini for the keyboard. I've got connectors and cable just need to know the pinouts.

    You can find the pinouts on Wikipedia.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 08 May 2014, 21:15:17
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 08 May 2014, 16:14:15
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Thu, 08 May 2014, 16:06:36
    Anyone know how or have a link for how to make a cable to connect a poker or other mini-usb keyboard to a phone? Needs to me without an adaptor. Cable needs to have one end micro (with OTG ability) and the other end Mini for the keyboard. I've got connectors and cable just need to know the pinouts.

    You can find the pinouts on Wikipedia.
    DIY OTG cables are hard to make.

    It's possible, but difficult. Even with the pinout.

    It would be much easier to purchase a longer OTG cable and solder a new connector to the end. I just use a short OTG cable and a short USB cable for the poker and call it good. Texting has never been easier, though I want to make a 40% for it soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 21:17:50
    Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 08 May 2014, 21:15:17
    Texting has never been easier, though I want to make a 40% for it soon.

    Bit OT -- if you have an Android, check out AirDroid, it's amazing for texting via computer/keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sipth on Fri, 09 May 2014, 07:49:47
    I'm thinking of making a numpad for tenkeyless keyboard but I was wondering if I would be able to rebind to keys on it. And where is a good place to buy the PCB, case etc... for the numpad if im going to DIY it myself? thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 May 2014, 07:58:04
    Quote from: sipth on Fri, 09 May 2014, 07:49:47
    1) I'm thinking of making a numpad for tenkeyless keyboard but I was wondering if I would be able to rebind to keys on it.

    2) And where is a good place to buy the PCB, case etc... for the numpad if im going to DIY it myself? thanks


    1) Depends on the firmware you decide to use. Some people make their own. Hasus TMK firmware is also popular.

    2) I've seen people use (I think) PCBWing? I know oshpark for sure does PCBs. Case? Again depends on how you're designing it.

    Check out the Geekhackers Youtube channel for a video called how to build your own custom keyboard and the making stuff together subforum for more info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 09 May 2014, 08:00:02
    Quote from: sipth on Fri, 09 May 2014, 07:49:47
    I'm thinking of making a numpad for tenkeyless keyboard but I was wondering if I would be able to rebind to keys on it. And where is a good place to buy the PCB, case etc... for the numpad if im going to DIY it myself? thanks

    You should check out the GHPad. It uses the same chip as the GH60 iirc and is programmable. There are also files for acrylic cases for it available.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sipth on Fri, 09 May 2014, 08:38:22
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 09 May 2014, 08:00:02
    Quote from: sipth on Fri, 09 May 2014, 07:49:47
    I'm thinking of making a numpad for tenkeyless keyboard but I was wondering if I would be able to rebind to keys on it. And where is a good place to buy the PCB, case etc... for the numpad if im going to DIY it myself? thanks

    You should check out the GHPad. It uses the same chip as the GH60 iirc and is programmable. There are also files for acrylic cases for it available.

    The GHpad seems perfect, where can I get one? I've never DIY-ed my own keyboard before so i dont know much, will go and read up about it!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 May 2014, 08:53:46
    Quote from: sipth on Fri, 09 May 2014, 08:38:22
    The GHpad seems perfect, where can I get one?

    I think someone in the thread has extra betas PCBs? Eventually there should be a GB. I also thought I saw some on TaoBao but you can double check that in the thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sipth on Fri, 09 May 2014, 08:57:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 May 2014, 08:53:46
    Quote from: sipth on Fri, 09 May 2014, 08:38:22
    The GHpad seems perfect, where can I get one?

    I think someone in the thread has extra betas PCBs? Eventually there should be a GB. I also thought I saw some on TaoBao but you can double check that in the thread.

    ahh thanks! Pretty excited for this project! Guess I'll look into the groupbuy thread to find it(IF i can find it :P)!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: abjr on Fri, 09 May 2014, 16:27:57
    Using the diagram for the Costar stabilizer layout from this post: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33298.0 what would the "A" value be for a 6.25 unit space bar? The spec (http://cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm) doesn't indicate what it would be. Thanks.

    -abjr
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kevinlivecomau on Sat, 10 May 2014, 07:19:56
    I've just received my Filco Majestouch-2 Blue switch keyboard. The keys feel a lot heavier than my Blackwidow also blue switch. I'm just wondering if this is a normal occurrence? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 10 May 2014, 08:05:20
    Quote from: kevinlivecomau on Sat, 10 May 2014, 07:19:56
    I've just received my Filco Majestouch-2 Blue switch keyboard. The keys feel a lot heavier than my Blackwidow also blue switch. I'm just wondering if this is a normal occurrence?

    This might be because your BW is a bit more broken in/worn.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:15:12
    Quote from: kevinlivecomau on Sat, 10 May 2014, 07:19:56
    I've just received my Filco Majestouch-2 Blue switch keyboard. The keys feel a lot heavier than my Blackwidow also blue switch. I'm just wondering if this is a normal occurrence? 

    Welcome to Geekhack!

    What BlueBär said, plus it might have to do with the Filco's more solid construction, and its much better keycaps that give an overall more satisfactory feeling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:33:28
    ive got a simple question, just dont know if this is the right place to put it....

    anyone has the link to the hammer 60% cases on taobao???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:43:12
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:33:28
    ive got a simple question, just dont know if this is the right place to put it....

    anyone has the link to the hammer 60% cases on taobao???

    u mean fake hammer 60%?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:07:24
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:33:28
    ive got a simple question, just dont know if this is the right place to put it....

    anyone has the link to the hammer 60% cases on taobao???

    You mean this ?

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: feizor on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:29:26
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:07:24
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:33:28
    ive got a simple question, just dont know if this is the right place to put it....

    anyone has the link to the hammer 60% cases on taobao???

    You mean this ?

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea)

    Has anyone actually bought one of these?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:35:19
    Quote from: feizor on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:29:26
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:07:24
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:33:28
    ive got a simple question, just dont know if this is the right place to put it....

    anyone has the link to the hammer 60% cases on taobao???

    You mean this ?

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea)

    Has anyone actually bought one of these?

    qtan is looking into it. I think the seller still has to make them.

    Some of us here have been wanting to know about them.  There is a thread somewhere about it, and I'm sure that's where he will post as soon as he knows all the details.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LONGZILLA on Sat, 10 May 2014, 23:01:06
    Absolutely love the sleeving on my headphones (TH600), what's the softest cable sleeving? Or is it a matter of what's getting sleeved?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 10 May 2014, 23:05:11
    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Sat, 10 May 2014, 23:01:06
    Absolutely love the sleeving on my headphones (TH600), what's the softest cable sleeving? Or is it a matter of what's getting sleeved?

    The softest would be paracord.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:09:50
    Hammer or TEX case for Poker II? My friend can only afford one atm, so which one? Other suggestions are welcome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:52:00
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:09:50
    Hammer or TEX case for Poker II? My friend can only afford one atm, so which one? Other suggestions are welcome.

    Hammer is nicer, TEX is cheaper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:53:21
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:09:50
    Hammer or TEX case for Poker II? My friend can only afford one atm, so which one? Other suggestions are welcome.

    Hammer all the way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tbc on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:54:31
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:09:50
    Hammer or TEX case for Poker II? My friend can only afford one atm, so which one? Other suggestions are welcome.

    i'm under the impression that the tex is as low profile as it gets.  So if he prefers flat cases, it's TEX all the way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:57:42
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:09:50
    Hammer or TEX case for Poker II? My friend can only afford one atm, so which one? Other suggestions are welcome.

    Hammer case is my favorite 60% case on the market

    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Sat, 10 May 2014, 23:01:06
    Absolutely love the sleeving on my headphones (TH600), what's the softest cable sleeving? Or is it a matter of what's getting sleeved?

    Silica sleeving it's the softest sleeving I've tried. Also please try to keep the thread keyboard related.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 01:23:59
    Thanks for the suggestions guys. ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Sun, 11 May 2014, 05:54:37
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:43:12
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:33:28
    ive got a simple question, just dont know if this is the right place to put it....

    anyone has the link to the hammer 60% cases on taobao???

    u mean fake hammer 60%?

    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:07:24
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:33:28
    ive got a simple question, just dont know if this is the right place to put it....

    anyone has the link to the hammer 60% cases on taobao???

    You mean this ?

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea)

    Oh cool thanks.

    Are there actually fake 60% hammer cases?

    Has anyone purchased one from the site?

    And qtan is getting stocks from this? Meaning I don't have to buy it off taobao anymore, I can just buy it from his site?

    My main concern though: Are they really fake? Even if they're fake, are they still of decent quality?

    EDIT:

    Also, what's a GON and what does it stand for?

    And what springs to Ergo Clears use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Sun, 11 May 2014, 06:19:24
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:09:50
    Hammer or TEX case for Poker II? My friend can only afford one atm, so which one? Other suggestions are welcome.

    I think hammer is the one to go haha

    I'm going for one :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:11:49
    GON is a username, it stands for GON.

    Ergo clears use any spring really, but most commonly they use 62g. Also, ergo clears implies that they are lubed as well. That's the difference between 62g clears and ergo clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LONGZILLA on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:30:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:57:42
    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Sat, 10 May 2014, 23:01:06
    Absolutely love the sleeving on my headphones (TH600), what's the softest cable sleeving? Or is it a matter of what's getting sleeved?

    Silica sleeving it's the softest sleeving I've tried. Also please try to keep the thread keyboard related.
    Yeah, I meant is there was an equivalent sleeving for keyboard cables :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:40:00
    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:30:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:57:42
    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Sat, 10 May 2014, 23:01:06
    Absolutely love the sleeving on my headphones (TH600), what's the softest cable sleeving? Or is it a matter of what's getting sleeved?

    Silica sleeving it's the softest sleeving I've tried. Also please try to keep the thread keyboard related.
    Yeah, I meant is there was an equivalent sleeving for keyboard cables :D

    Oooo ok. I think you can get silica sleeving for your keyboard cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:46:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:57:42
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:09:50
    Hammer or TEX case for Poker II? My friend can only afford one atm, so which one? Other suggestions are welcome.

    Hammer case is my favorite 60% case on the market
    So my friend has decided on the getting the Hammer, wants me to help him buy it. Where can I find one in Titanium? And I noticed there seems to be one with a different design in Feng's thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54560.0;attach=53826;image (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54560.0;attach=53826;image). What's the difference?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 May 2014, 12:23:19
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:46:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:57:42
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:09:50
    Hammer or TEX case for Poker II? My friend can only afford one atm, so which one? Other suggestions are welcome.

    Hammer case is my favorite 60% case on the market

    1)  my friend has decided on the getting the Hammer, wants me to help him buy it. Where can I find one in Titanium?

    2) And I noticed there seems to be one with a different design in Feng's thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54560.0;attach=53826;image (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54560.0;attach=53826;image). What's the difference?

    1) Classifieds or maybe Taobao

    2) Probably not a hammer. Look at fengs previous GBs for the differences between the diff cases he's sold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 13:10:16
    Will do, thanks. Oh, and he asked something about an FMJ case? What's that about?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 11 May 2014, 13:12:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:40:00
    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:30:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 11 May 2014, 00:57:42
    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Sat, 10 May 2014, 23:01:06
    Absolutely love the sleeving on my headphones (TH600), what's the softest cable sleeving? Or is it a matter of what's getting sleeved?

    Silica sleeving it's the softest sleeving I've tried. Also please try to keep the thread keyboard related.
    Yeah, I meant is there was an equivalent sleeving for keyboard cables :D

    Oooo ok. I think you can get silica sleeving for your keyboard cable.

    Yeah, you can.  I might even can get the sleeve similar to the th600s
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Sun, 11 May 2014, 16:31:01
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:46:14

    So my friend has decided on the getting the Hammer, wants me to help him buy it. Where can I find one in Titanium? And I noticed there seems to be one with a different design in Feng's thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54560.0;attach=53826;image (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54560.0;attach=53826;image). What's the difference?

    I dont think that's the hammer one that he would want???

    Check out Feng's thread I think. It should look like a really sturdy badass case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuiop on Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:16:41
    Anyone recently got switch stickers from originative? (http://www.originativeco.com/products/switch-stickers)
    Product page says nothing about how many stickers you get.  Is it 120 stickers per sheet as usual?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 11 May 2014, 23:11:21
    Does anyone have a suggestion how I might go about figuring out whether all 3 TKL KMAC versions (that I'm aware of: KMAC1.2, KMAC2, and KMAC LE) work with a KMAC 1.4 PCB without a plate and allow for stand-offs in the same locations.  In other words, do all KMAC TKL cases have holes in the bottom part of the case for PCB mounting and in the same locations?

    I know that a plateless set up with a KMAC 1.4 PCB can be used with a KMAC2 case (tested), but trying to figure out if other cases will also work.

    Found this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39627.msg1137053#msg1137053) so far, but it only talks about the top part of the case and plate.  Photographs for 1.2 seem to show no holes in the bottom part of the case.

    EDIT: Ok,  I think I've answered my own question... KMAC LE has no holes for stand-offs either: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg702115#msg702115  KMAC 1.2 has no holes for PCB-mounting either.  KMAC 1.2 and 2 seem to accept the same plate and PCB, but KMAC LE has a specialized plate that only works for LE.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 02:21:32
    Quote from: YUIOP on Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:16:41
    Anyone recently got switch stickers from originative? (http://www.originativeco.com/products/switch-stickers)
    Product page says nothing about how many stickers you get.  Is it 120 stickers per sheet as usual?

    I'm not sure about the exact amount but it's enough for a fullsize. I wouldn't recommend buying from them though. Not sure where else you could get switch stickers from right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 02:29:35
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 02:21:32
    Quote from: YUIOP on Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:16:41
    Anyone recently got switch stickers from originative? (http://www.originativeco.com/products/switch-stickers)
    Product page says nothing about how many stickers you get.  Is it 120 stickers per sheet as usual?

    I'm not sure about the exact amount but it's enough for a fullsize. I wouldn't recommend buying from them though. Not sure where else you could get switch stickers from right now.

    Techkeys.us will have switch stickers in stock next week!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 07:43:51
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 13:10:16
    He asked about an FMJ case?

    Here's a link on the FMJ case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47067.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sth on Mon, 12 May 2014, 07:46:31
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:11:49
    GON is a username, it stands for GON.

    Ergo clears use any spring really, but most commonly they use 62g. Also, ergo clears implies that they are lubed as well. That's the difference between 62g clears and ergo clears.

    whoa! times have changed since i stopped using cherry last year. used to be that ergo clear was just mxblue/red/brown spring, no lube implied.
    i cant keep up with you crazy kids.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 07:49:46
    Quote from: sth on Mon, 12 May 2014, 07:46:31
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:11:49
    GON is a username, it stands for GON.

    Ergo clears use any spring really, but most commonly they use 62g. Also, ergo clears implies that they are lubed as well. That's the difference between 62g clears and ergo clears.

    whoa! times have changed since i stopped using cherry last year. used to be that ergo clear was just mxblue/red/brown spring, no lube implied.

    Yeah, the classic ergo clears (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear) are a clear stem with blue/red/brown spring. No lube. However, I know I've personally just called any modified clear an ergo clear. That's probably not a good thing and I should be calling switches like "62g lubed MX Clear" and then "ergo clears". I'll have to make more of a differentiation personally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 12 May 2014, 08:50:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 07:43:51
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 11 May 2014, 13:10:16
    He asked about an FMJ case?

    Here's a link on the FMJ case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47067.0).
    Wow. That's a pricey case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:00:00

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 07:49:46
    Quote from: sth on Mon, 12 May 2014, 07:46:31
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:11:49
    GON is a username, it stands for GON.

    Ergo clears use any spring really, but most commonly they use 62g. Also, ergo clears implies that they are lubed as well. That's the difference between 62g clears and ergo clears.

    whoa! times have changed since i stopped using cherry last year. used to be that ergo clear was just mxblue/red/brown spring, no lube implied.

    Yeah, the classic ergo clears (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear) are a clear stem with blue/red/brown spring. No lube. However, I know I've personally just called any modified clear an ergo clear. That's probably not a good thing and I should be calling switches like "62g lubed MX Clear" and then "ergo clears". I'll have to make more of a differentiation personally.

    Thanks for the help guys :)

    I still have some unanswered questions though :(

    Please help if possible! I might jump on that taobao hammer case posted in the page before... just need more input from you guys!


    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 11 May 2014, 05:54:37
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:43:12
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:33:28
    ive got a simple question, just dont know if this is the right place to put it....

    anyone has the link to the hammer 60% cases on taobao???

    u mean fake hammer 60%?

    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:07:24
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 10 May 2014, 19:33:28
    ive got a simple question, just dont know if this is the right place to put it....

    anyone has the link to the hammer 60% cases on taobao???

    You mean this ?

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.oQu2d5&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=37135757229&pvid=e03e87fc-4d7a-4ca3-b297-395b6db97bea)

    Oh cool thanks.

    Are there actually fake 60% hammer cases?

    Has anyone purchased one from the site?

    And qtan is getting stocks from this? Meaning I don't have to buy it off taobao anymore, I can just buy it from his site?

    My main concern though: Are they really fake? Even if they're fake, are they still of decent quality?

    EDIT:

    Also, what's a GON and what does it stand for?

    And what springs to Ergo Clears use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:37:15
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:00:00
    I still have some unanswered questions though :(

    Please help if possible! I might jump on that taobao hammer case posted in the page before... just need more input from you guys!

    First off, don't bump your questions. It's just because it would make the thread messy if people kept bumping it.

    Second off, how's that a fake Hammer case? I wasn't aware there were fakes on TaoBao. I thought those were just the cases Hammer was making, but now instead of a GB, it's on TaoBao. As I've stated before, I think the Hammer cases are my favorite 60% case from the latest batch of 60% cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:38:33
    No it's definitely not a genuine Hammer case, have you seen the price?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:39:25
    Quote from: epzy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:38:33
    No it's definitely not a genuine Hammer case, have you seen the price?

    No because I can't check TaoBao at work. It's blocked.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:39:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:39:25
    Quote from: epzy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:38:33
    No it's definitely not a genuine Hammer case, have you seen the price?

    No because I can't check TaoBao at work. It's blocked.

    $80.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56483.msg1275574#msg1275574
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:41:30
    Quote from: epzy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:39:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:39:25
    Quote from: epzy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:38:33
    No it's definitely not a genuine Hammer case, have you seen the price?

    No because I can't check TaoBao at work. It's blocked.

    $80.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56483.msg1275574#msg1275574

    The OG was what, $200? I'm not really sure what makes this different though so hopefully someone else can chime in who has the case? Perhaps there was a markup? Or they've got the tooling on the CNC setup now so the later runs are much cheaper? I've seen similar pricing drops when looking for quotes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:23:49
    Hey guys, about to order some switches ready for the duck viper & eagle group buy. I noticed some people seem to use PCB mount switches and clip them for use on a board using a plate - I was just going to order plate mounted switches but wandered if someone could shed some light on why people do this, or is just just a case of them having those switches lying around already kinda thing and I'm just over thinking things and should shut up and just order the plate mounted switches!?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:25:33
    Quote from: b7ad on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:23:49
    I noticed some people seem to use PCB mount switches and clip them for use on a board using a plate - I was just going to order plate mounted switches but wondered if someone could shed some light on why people do this.

    It's due to the PCB. Some PCBs don't have the holes to accept the PCB mount legs. Since they already have or bought PCB mount switches, it's just easier to clip them instead of buying more switches.

    Personally, I like having the PCB mount legs left intact if the PCB accepts the legs because I feel that they add to the stable feeling of the switches in the board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:29:20
    Quote from: b7ad on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:23:49
    ...just a case of them having those switches lying around already kinda thing...

    This. PCB mounted switches don't fit on some boards which are meant for a plate.

    Dangit CPT. Aren't you supposed to be less active? :mad: :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:30:00
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:29:20
    Dangit CPT. Aren't you supposed to be less active? :mad: :))

    Wow, I can leave if you want me to... :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:32:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:37:15
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 12 May 2014, 09:00:00
    I still have some unanswered questions though :(

    Please help if possible! I might jump on that taobao hammer case posted in the page before... just need more input from you guys!

    First off, don't bump your questions. It's just because it would make the thread messy if people kept bumping it.

    Second off, how's that a fake Hammer case? I wasn't aware there were fakes on TaoBao. I thought those were just the cases Hammer was making, but now instead of a GB, it's on TaoBao. As I've stated before, I think the Hammer cases are my favorite 60% case from the latest batch of 60% cases.

    I apologize. Just thought that people might have missed my question cause it was on the tail end of the last page.

    I didn't know there were fakes as well but the price is really quite low for one. I'm deciding whether to bite the bait. I suppose at the end of the day, could just be used for aesthetics even if they dont feel that solid....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:33:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:25:33
    Quote from: b7ad on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:23:49
    I noticed some people seem to use PCB mount switches and clip them for use on a board using a plate - I was just going to order plate mounted switches but wondered if someone could shed some light on why people do this.

    It's due to the PCB. Some PCBs don't have the holes to accept the PCB mount legs. Since they already have or bought PCB mount switches, it's just easier to clip them instead of buying more switches.

    Personally, I like having the PCB mount legs left intact if the PCB accepts the legs because I feel that they add to the stable feeling of the switches in the board.

    Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you here - some PCB's will accept the legs when using a plate? In that case it may be worth getting the pcb mount switches and just clipping if necessary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:34:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:30:00
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:29:20
    Dangit CPT. Aren't you supposed to be less active? :mad: :))

    Wow, I can leave if you want me to... :(

    WHERE ARE YOU GOING? NO.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:37:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:30:00
    Wow, I can leave if you want me to... :(

    Please stay <3

    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:32:36
    I apologize. Just thought that people might have missed my question cause it was on the tail end of the last page.

    I didn't know there were fakes as well but the price is really quite low for one. I'm deciding whether to bite the bait. I suppose at the end of the day, could just be used for aesthetics even if they dont feel that solid....

    The deal could be a complete scam, too, so you wouldn't get anything. I don't think somebody has ordered one of them yet.

    Quote from: b7ad on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:33:58
    Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you here - some PCB's will accept the legs when using a plate? In that case it may be worth getting the pcb mount switches and just clipping if necessary.

    Yes you got that right. The GH60 would be an example for this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:39:09
    Quote from: b7ad on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:33:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:25:33
    Quote from: b7ad on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:23:49
    I noticed some people seem to use PCB mount switches and clip them for use on a board using a plate - I was just going to order plate mounted switches but wondered if someone could shed some light on why people do this.

    It's due to the PCB. Some PCBs don't have the holes to accept the PCB mount legs. Since they already have or bought PCB mount switches, it's just easier to clip them instead of buying more switches.

    Personally, I like having the PCB mount legs left intact if the PCB accepts the legs because I feel that they add to the stable feeling of the switches in the board.

    Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you here - some PCB's will accept the legs when using a plate? In that case it may be worth getting the pcb mount switches and just clipping if necessary.

    Yes. Look at this KMAC PCB, see the black holes to the left and right of the large one in "N"? Those are the holes that allow you to use a plate with PCB mount switches. There are PCBs which won't have those holes and so you can't use PCB mount switches. But I currently can't think of a board that doesn't have those holes.

    (http://i.imgur.com/NS3hU7P.jpg)
    Picture of just the PCB from here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg952302#msg952302).


    (http://i.imgur.com/NrTBNYM.jpg)
    Picture of the KMAC with PCB switches and plate from here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47093.0)

    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:37:28
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:32:36
    I apologize. Just thought that people might have missed my question cause it was on the tail end of the last page.

    I didn't know there were fakes as well but the price is really quite low for one. I'm deciding whether to bite the bait. I suppose at the end of the day, could just be used for aesthetics even if they dont feel that solid....

    The deal could be a complete scam, too, so you wouldn't get anything. I don't think somebody has ordered one of them yet.

    Agreed. It could be a scam. I was just trying to offer some factors that might reduce the price. But in the end, I'm not sure I've seen one on the forums here.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:37:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:30:00
    Wow, I can leave if you want me to... :(

    Please stay <3

    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:34:52
    WHERE ARE YOU GOING? NO.

    Haha, maybe I should put this somewhere. I'm currently taking some classes which means that my time to spend on keyboard projects and on projects for Geekhack (Clack Info Thread, anything Keepers/Wiki related, etc) is going to be a little less. I'll still be posting but the reviews I'm fond of writing and project stuff are going to be coming at a slower rate for a while.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:54:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:39:09
    There are PCBs which won't have those holes and so you can't use PCB mount switches. But I currently can't think of a board that doesn't have those holes.

    JD40 thru-hole PCB...

    (http://i.imgur.com/dKVQv2z.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:57:44
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:54:10
    Show Image
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:39:09
    There are PCBs which won't have those holes and so you can't use PCB mount switches. But I currently can't think of a board that doesn't have those holes.

    JD40 thru-hole PCB...

    (http://i.imgur.com/dKVQv2z.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/dKVQv2z.jpg)

    Also the phantom PCB doesn't have the holes either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:58:54
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:54:10
    JD40 thru-hole PCB...

    More

    Well you should add them then! :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:01:12
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:58:54
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:54:10
    JD40 thru-hole PCB...

    More

    Well you should add them then! :p

    That was one of the reasons for the redesign. Also, stabilizer holes and SMT instead of thru-hole.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:03:05
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:01:12
    That was one of the reasons for the redesign. Also, stabilizer holes and SMT instead of thru-hole.

    Nice one :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Mon, 12 May 2014, 11:06:56
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:37:28
    Yes you got that right. The GH60 would be an example for this.

    Thanks!

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 10:39:09
    Yes. Look at this KMAC PCB, see the black holes to the left and right of the large one in "N"? Those are the holes that allow you to use a plate with PCB mount switches. There are PCBs which won't have those holes and so you can't use PCB mount switches. But I currently can't think of a board that doesn't have those holes.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/NS3hU7P.jpg)

    Picture of just the PCB from here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg952302#msg952302).


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/NrTBNYM.jpg)

    Picture of the KMAC with PCB switches and plate from here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47093.0)

    Guess I'll be ordering the PCB ones then. Thanks a lot for the explanation that's very helpful!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: XNine on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:21:26
    Hello, I searched this thread, but didn't see an answer exactly for this question.

    There are PCB mounted switches, and Plate mounted switches.  Plate mounts have a couple of tabs on them for mounting on a plate.  Pretty logical.

    My question is, WHY are there two types of switches?  Is there any benefit to have PCB mounted VS Plate mounted, or visa versa?  I imagine PCB mounted would be easier for custom set ups since there's no plate that one would have to mill or get fabricated for their project, I was just wondering if there's any real benefit one way or the other?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:28:09
    Quote from: XNine on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:21:26
    1. There are PCB mounted switches, and Plate mounted switches.  Plate mounts have a couple of tabs on them for mounting on a plate.  Pretty logical.

    2. My question is, WHY are there two types of switches?  Is there any benefit to have PCB mounted VS Plate mounted, or visa versa?  I imagine PCB mounted would be easier for custom set ups since there's no plate that one would have to mill or get fabricated for their project, I was just wondering if there's any real benefit one way or the other?

    1. PCB mounted switches have those tabs as well and in addition two pins to fixate them, see here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46376.0;attach=29853;image
    2. Plate mounted switches feel more solid. If you PCB mount switches your board can tend to flex a bit depending on how the PCB is supported by the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Av180 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:37:44
    What are all the different types of KMAC's and what are the difference, (KMAC2, KMAC1.2 etc.), and what does LE stand for like KMAC LE?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:56:15
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:28:09
    Quote from: XNine on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:21:26
    1. There are PCB mounted switches, and Plate mounted switches.  Plate mounts have a couple of tabs on them for mounting on a plate.  Pretty logical.

    2. My question is, WHY are there two types of switches?  Is there any benefit to have PCB mounted VS Plate mounted, or visa versa?  I imagine PCB mounted would be easier for custom set ups since there's no plate that one would have to mill or get fabricated for their project, I was just wondering if there's any real benefit one way or the other?

    1. PCB mounted switches have those tabs as well and in addition two pins to fixate them, see here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46376.0;attach=29853;image
    2. Plate mounted switches feel more solid. If you PCB mount switches your board can tend to flex a bit depending on how the PCB is supported by the case.

    1. you can clip the 2 small pins on the bottom of PCB mount switches and you now have plate mount. 
    2. Building a keyboard with PCB mount is cheaper as it removes a lot of R&D and tooling required to make the plate.  Laser cutting on the scale of a mass produced keyboards would add a very significant portion to the price of the keyboard.  While laser cutting is fairly cheap for short and medium runs, this large of a scale would be most economical to have the plates punched on a very large press.  This actually drops the price per plate down to a couple dollars over material cost.  But costs thousands to have the dies engineered and made.  Not to mention replacements as they will wear out.  Plus it is an extra cost in the assembly process.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 May 2014, 20:20:10
    Quote from: Av180 on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:37:44
    What are all the different types of KMAC's and what are the difference, (KMAC2, KMAC1.2 etc.), and what does LE stand for like KMAC LE?

    I'm pretty sure KMAC 1, 1.2, and LE were all the same but there were supposed issues with the anodization. I guess the LE has different anodization on the top and bottom halves. But I own and LE and I can't spot the difference. LE I would imagine is limited edition.

    Quote from: XNine on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:21:26
    My question is, WHY are there two types of switches?  Is there any benefit to have PCB mounted VS Plate mounted, or visa versa?

    Depends on the PCB and the PCB manufacturer I guess. As seen above, there's PCBs that can accept PCB mount and some that can only take Plate mount. Customer requirements. Also I agree with what BlueBar said earlier.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 12 May 2014, 18:28:09
    2. Plate mounted switches feel more solid. If you PCB mount switches your board can tend to flex a bit depending on how the PCB is supported by the case.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Tue, 13 May 2014, 12:53:47
    any cleaning stuff to remove mark of grease on keys?
    Too bad that my fingers are naturally greasy
    I use wipe on it and keys become eventually more greasy lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 May 2014, 12:56:33
    Quote from: ajx on Tue, 13 May 2014, 12:53:47
    any cleaning stuff to remove mark of grease on keys?
    Too bad that my fingers are naturally greasy
    I use wipe on it and keys become eventually more greasy lol

    I like using alcohol wipes/moist towelettes or a cloth with isopropyl alchohol for quick cleans. If you want to do a proper clean, pull all the caps off, then put them in warm water. You can add dish soap or denture cleaning tablets (what I like using). Shake and let sit for 15 minutes. Rinse with water, then dry with a towel. Caps are clean again and if you use denture tabs, they smell minty :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Tue, 13 May 2014, 14:31:23
    Hi! Now that  EK's RF 55g is out of stock ... Is there any other store selling RF 55g? I just can't find nothing out there ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 13 May 2014, 14:44:22
    Quote from: juguerre on Tue, 13 May 2014, 14:31:23
    Hi! Now that  EK's RF 55g is out of stock ... Is there any other store selling RF 55g? I just can't find nothing out there ...

    There are some Amazon.co.jp listings that say "30/45/55g" but I don't see where you would select your desired weight (not that I know Japanese).
    http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/... (http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?__mk_ja_JP=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=realforce+55g&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Arealforce+55g)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:06:52
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 13 May 2014, 14:44:22
    Quote from: juguerre on Tue, 13 May 2014, 14:31:23
    Hi! Now that  EK's RF 55g is out of stock ... Is there any other store selling RF 55g? I just can't find nothing out there ...

    There are some Amazon.co.jp listings that say "30/45/55g" but I don't see where you would select your desired weight (not that I know Japanese).
    http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/... (http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?__mk_ja_JP=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=realforce+55g&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Arealforce+55g)

    I think that "30/45/55g" stands for variable weighted keyboards that have all those switches....  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:16:56
    Quote from: juguerre on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:06:52
    I think that "30/45/55g" stands for variable weighted keyboards that have all those switches....  :rolleyes:

    Oh right, I forgot about the 55g Esc. Sorry I don't know any other source then :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:27:06
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:16:56
    Quote from: juguerre on Tue, 13 May 2014, 15:06:52
    I think that "30/45/55g" stands for variable weighted keyboards that have all those switches....  :rolleyes:

    Oh right, I forgot about the 55g Esc. Sorry I don't know any other source then :(

    Thanks any way!  ;D ... so ... I have to wait  :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 13 May 2014, 18:05:28
    What TKL boards are there that allow

    1. Reflashing new firmware
    and
    2. Backlighting
    and
    3. 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5 bottom row and 1.75 right shift

    Only one I know is KMAC, but that only fits 1 and 2, not 3.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 13 May 2014, 18:16:39
    Quote from: ajx on Tue, 13 May 2014, 12:53:47
    any cleaning stuff to remove mark of grease on keys?
    Too bad that my fingers are naturally greasy
    I use wipe on it and keys become eventually more greasy lol

    Organic solvents (eg "citrus oil" cleaners) work well on oils but can be damaging to some plastics.

    "wax on - wax off" quickly and you should be OK

    Soaking in hot soapy water is better, but much harder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Wed, 14 May 2014, 01:39:36
    One of my sisters is a Korean fanatic. Showed her someone's keyboard with English and Hangul caps, she seemed quite interested. What's the easiest way to get caps, and where?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 May 2014, 06:56:05
    Quote from: divito on Wed, 14 May 2014, 01:39:36
    One of my sisters is a Korean fanatic. Showed her someone's keyboard with English and Hangul caps, she seemed quite interested. What's the easiest way to get caps, and where?

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=62
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 07:17:41
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 13 May 2014, 18:05:28
    What TKL boards are there that allow

    1. Reflashing new firmware
    and
    2. Backlighting
    and
    3. 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5 bottom row and 1.75 right shift

    Only one I know is KMAC, but that only fits 1 and 2, not 3.

    The Cheat, the LZ customs, Orion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: colomb on Wed, 14 May 2014, 10:39:49
    What TKL keyboards are there with:

    1. 45g (or 55g) uniform topre silent switches
    2. Dip switches to remap ctrl & caps-lock
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 12:10:12
    Quote from: colomb on Wed, 14 May 2014, 10:39:49
    What TKL keyboards are there with:

    1. 45g (or 55g) uniform topre silent switches
    2. Dip switches to remap ctrl & caps-lock

    Not sure a keyboard like this exists In a stock form tbh. I'm definitely the wrong person to ask about Topre boards though so hopefully someone chimes in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:00:08
    Quote from: colomb on Wed, 14 May 2014, 10:39:49
    What TKL keyboards are there with:

    1. 45g (or 55g) uniform topre silent switches
    2. Dip switches to remap ctrl & caps-lock

    edit: there are none with silent and uniform switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:00:57
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:00:08
    Quote from: colomb on Wed, 14 May 2014, 10:39:49
    What TKL keyboards are there with:

    1. 45g (or 55g) uniform topre silent switches
    2. Dip switches to remap ctrl & caps-lock

    Just the silent Realforce TKLs. Check EliteKeyboards.

    Realforces have a dipswitch to swap those Ctrl and Caps Lock?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:02:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:00:57
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:00:08
    Quote from: colomb on Wed, 14 May 2014, 10:39:49
    What TKL keyboards are there with:

    1. 45g (or 55g) uniform topre silent switches
    2. Dip switches to remap ctrl & caps-lock

    Just the silent Realforce TKLs. Check EliteKeyboards.

    Realforces have a dipswitch to swap those Ctrl and Caps Lock?

    Yeah, they do, but my answer was wrong because he wants uniform and silent switches. AFAIK,  silent switches are only available on the variable weighted models.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:04:06
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:02:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:00:57
    Realforces have a dipswitch to swap those Ctrl and Caps Lock?

    Yeah, they do

    That's good to know.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:02:20
    But my answer was wrong because he wants uniform and silent switches. AFAIK,  silent switches are only available on the variable weighted models.

    Yeah I thought the only way to get a silent TKL Topre board was to do the dental band or o-ring mod. And perhaps swap in domes/bands from another Type S board. But I could easily be mistaken.

    Like I said, I'm sorely lacking in Topre knowledge.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:05:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:04:06
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:02:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:00:57
    Realforces have a dipswitch to swap those Ctrl and Caps Lock?

    Yeah, they do

    That's good to know.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 13:02:20
    But my answer was wrong because he wants uniform and silent switches. AFAIK,  silent switches are only available on the variable weighted models.

    Yeah I thought the only way to get a silent TKL Topre board was to do the dental band or o-ring mod. And perhaps swap in domes/bands from another Type S board. But I could easily be mistaken.

    Like I said, I'm sorely lacking in Topre knowledge.

    Yes, unless you are OK with variable weighting, then you can buy one of the stock silent models on ek.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: maxtortheone on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:40:56
    I'm curious on the dimensions of my soon to arrive Model M 122 key. And weight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:55:07
    Quote from: maxtortheone on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:40:56
    I'm curious on the dimensions of my soon to arrive Model M 122 key. And weight.

    1. Big

    2. Heavy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:06:39
    How many times can I flash a programable keyboard controller? Does it “wear off”?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:07:45
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:06:39
    How many times can I flash a programable keyboard controller? Does it “wear off”?
    1. Infinite
    2. no......
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:10:04
    I have acquired a vintage keyboard that has a 5 pin metal plug. What adapter do I need? (Forum search for "5 pin" does not succeed.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:12:37
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:10:04
    I have acquired a vintage keyboard that has a 5 pin metal plug. What adapter do I need? (Forum search for "5 pin" does not succeed.)

    Pic? Lots of 5 pin plugs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:14:39
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:10:04
    I have acquired a vintage keyboard that has a 5 pin metal plug. What adapter do I need? (Forum search for "5 pin" does not succeed.)

    It is probably an AT/XT connector. If the keyboard uses the AT protocol, you need an AT --> PS2 and a PS2 --> USB. If it uses XT, you need a Soarer's converter or similar, and it will probably be more effort than you want to put in, unless you really love that kb.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:19:24
    Quote from: maxtortheone on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:40:56
    I'm curious on the dimensions of my soon to arrive Model M 122 key. And weight.

    I have a Cherry G80-2100 here which should be about the same size, it's ~51cm long and ~21cm wide.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:31:34
    @Pacifist thanks and peace!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:38:59
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:14:39
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:10:04
    I have acquired a vintage keyboard that has a 5 pin metal plug. What adapter do I need? (Forum search for "5 pin" does not succeed.)

    It is probably an AT/XT connector. If the keyboard uses the AT protocol, you need an AT --> PS2 and a PS2 --> USB. If it uses XT, you need a Soarer's converter or similar, and it will probably be more effort than you want to put in, unless you really love that kb.

    Thanks for the reply. The keryboard has an AT to XT switch, so you can select the "mode", I guess. So best path fowards is to procure an AT -> PS2 adaptor? Excuse my ignorance, but what is AT and XT? Cheers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:41:25
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:38:59
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:14:39
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:10:04
    I have acquired a vintage keyboard that has a 5 pin metal plug. What adapter do I need? (Forum search for "5 pin" does not succeed.)

    It is probably an AT/XT connector. If the keyboard uses the AT protocol, you need an AT --> PS2 and a PS2 --> USB. If it uses XT, you need a Soarer's converter or similar, and it will probably be more effort than you want to put in, unless you really love that kb.

    Thanks for the reply. The keryboard has an AT to XT switch, so you can select the "mode", I guess. So best path fowards is to procure an AT -> PS2 adaptor? Excuse my ignorance, but what is AT and XT? Cheers

    Different types of scancodes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:58:39
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:10:04
    I have acquired a vintage keyboard that has a 5 pin metal plug. What adapter do I need? (Forum search for "5 pin" does not succeed.)

    In addition to what intelli78 mentioned, you can buy a AT/DIN5 to PS2 adaptor. I have that adapter and then a PS/2 to USB adapter to hook up my Minitouch to my computer.

    Quote from: maxtortheone on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:40:56
    I'm curious on the dimensions of my soon to arrive Model M 122 key. And weight.

    I can't find the dimensions for sure but ClickyKeyboards (http://www.clickeykeyboards.com/model-m-buyers-guide/) says that packed, the dimensions are as follows:

    Quote
    The shipping weight of these keyboards is approximately 6-7 pounds (2.7 kg). A cardboard box with the minimum dimensions of 24" x 10" x 4"

    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:38:59
    But what is AT and XT?

    They were two types of IBM computer systems, XT and AT, which seem to use different connectors in terms of keyboards. The difference between the systems can be found in a chart I found in what appears to be a report on IBM computers. Link is here (http://educationalstuff1.tripod.com/pcxtat2.pdf). I can't find the original report or link to the report unfortunately.

    (http://i.imgur.com/LrpFDCH.png)

    More information can be found here on XT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer#XT) and here on AT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer#AT).


    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:55:07
    Quote from: maxtortheone on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:40:56
    I'm curious on the dimensions of my soon to arrive Model M 122 key. And weight.

    1. Big

    2. Heavy

    Do you really think answers like these are helping people? If you don't know, just leave it alone instead of spamming this thread with ridiculous answers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:15:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:58:39
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:10:04
    I have acquired a vintage keyboard that has a 5 pin metal plug. What adapter do I need? (Forum search for "5 pin" does not succeed.)

    In addition to what intelli78 mentioned, you can buy a AT/DIN5 to PS2 adaptor. I have that adapter and then a PS/2 to USB adapter to hook up my Minitouch to my computer.

    Quote from: maxtortheone on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:40:56
    I'm curious on the dimensions of my soon to arrive Model M 122 key. And weight.

    I can't find the dimensions for sure but ClickyKeyboards (http://www.clickeykeyboards.com/model-m-buyers-guide/) says that packed, the dimensions are as follows:

    Quote
    The shipping weight of these keyboards is approximately 6-7 pounds (2.7 kg). A cardboard box with the minimum dimensions of 24" x 10" x 4"

    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 17:38:59
    But what is AT and XT?

    They were two types of IBM computer systems, XT and AT, which seem to use different connectors in terms of keyboards. The difference between the systems can be found in a chart I found in what appears to be a report on IBM computers. Link is here (http://educationalstuff1.tripod.com/pcxtat2.pdf). I can't find the original report or link to the report unfortunately.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/LrpFDCH.png)


    More information can be found here on XT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer#XT) and here on AT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer#AT).


    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:55:07
    Quote from: maxtortheone on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:40:56
    I'm curious on the dimensions of my soon to arrive Model M 122 key. And weight.

    1. Big

    2. Heavy

    Do you really think answers like these are helping people? If you don't know, just leave it alone instead of spamming this thread with ridiculous answers.

    Thanks for that, mate. I found a $2 female AT to male PS2 on eBay :) Then I can just use one of those dual PS2 (mouse+kb) plugs to USB male to complete the chain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:18:52
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:15:43
    Thanks for that, mate. I found a $2 female AT to male PS2 on eBay :) Then I can just use one of those dual PS2 (mouse+kb) plugs to USB male to complete the chain.

    Probably; but not all PS2 to USB adapters are created equal. The Ziotec blue cube is good, and mkawa also has another good one for sale. Both of those have wide compatibility. Your particular unit may or may not work with your particular keyboard. Try it and see.

    Also, it's always appreciated to pare down your quoted text to the essentials  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:21:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:18:52
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:15:43
    Thanks for that, mate. I found a $2 female AT to male PS2 on eBay :) Then I can just use one of those dual PS2 (mouse+kb) plugs to USB male to complete the chain.

    Probably; but not all PS2 to USB adapters are created equal. Mkawa also has another good one for sale. Both of those have wide compatibility.

    Agreed, I vouch for the one that mkawa and Geekhackers (http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/id-innovations-ps2-to-usb-adapter) is selling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:32:52
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:18:52
    Also, it's always appreciated to pare down your quoted text to the essentials  ;)

    Not a problem!

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:21:58
    Probably; but not all PS2 to USB adapters are created equal. Mkawa also has another good one for sale. Both of those have wide compatibility.

    Thanks for the link. I guess 5 times the price is worth the savings on frustration and time. I can't find any AT to ps2 adaptors locally, so I'll have to import one from the UK I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:34:27
    IBM F AT Personal Computer keyboard

    Can any of you please give me the quick dimensions of the footprint of the F AT?

    Mine is packed and stored deep, and I can't seem to find the dimensions online.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:35:14
    Actually, I can't tell from the photo - is the GH ps2-usb a female or male ps2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:39:52
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:32:52
    I can't find any AT to ps2 adaptors locally,

    If you can wait for shipping, these are pretty cheap.

    It is always good to keep a full set of adapters around, you never know what you may stumble across.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Pin-Mini-Din-Male-to-5-Pin-Din-Female-Keyboard-Adapter-005132-/380804265324?pt=US_Parallel_Serial_PS_2_Cables_Adapters&hash=item58a9b3f56c

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Din5-Female-to-MiniDin6-Male-AT-to-PS-2-Adapter-AD-K02P-/270721603823?pt=US_Parallel_Serial_PS_2_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f0843d8ef
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:40:05
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:34:27
    IBM F AT Personal Computer keyboard

    Can any of you please give me the quick dimensions of the footprint of the F AT?

    I'm trying to get the dimensions now. Weight seems to be 6.2 lbs, according to Clickykeyboards (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9934/subcatid/0/id/123624).

    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:35:14
    Actually, I can't tell from the photo - is the GH ps2-usb a female or male ps2?

    Female PS/2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:51:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:40:05
    I'm trying to get the dimensions now.

    Thanks, I just need to cut a rubber mat for somebody.

    It is always hard with that one, because "IBM AT keyboard" turns up thousands of hits. Mine hasn't seen the light of day in a year or 2, although I keep meaning to bring it out and do a full ANSI mod on it.

    Selling custom-cut keyboard mats has made me aware of how very different they all are!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:03:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:40:05
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:34:27
    IBM F AT Personal Computer keyboard

    Can any of you please give me the quick dimensions of the footprint of the F AT?

    Weight seems to be 6.2 lbs

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:40:05
    I'm trying to get the dimensions now.

    Dimensions as measured by ninjadoc.

    Width (think 1 to Backspace): 20.5 inches (about 18.5 without the leg adjusters)
    Height (think Escape to Left Control): 8.5 inches
    Thickness (bottom of the keyboard to the top half): 1.5 inches
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:07:17
    I have checked out via Paypal and there are no shipping charges applied. Do they ship internationally for free?!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:11:52
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:07:17
    I have checked out via Paypal and there are no shipping charges applied. Do they ship internationally for free?!

    I have no idea how Geekhackers.org's shipping works because it's new. If there's an issue or question, feel free to ask here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58137.0) and/or PM mkawa.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:15:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:03:25

    Dimensions as measured by ninjadoc.

    Width (think Escape to F12): 20.5 inches (about 18.5 without the leg adjusters)
    Height (think Escape to Left Control): 8.5 inches
    Thickness (bottom of the keyboard to the top half): 1.5 inches


    Huh? The F AT does not have F12 and Escape is in the numpad area.

    Those dimensions seem awfully large, are we talking about the 84-key Model F AT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:17:47
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:15:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:03:25

    Dimensions as measured by ninjadoc.

    Width (think Escape to F12): 20.5 inches (about 18.5 without the leg adjusters)
    Height (think Escape to Left Control): 8.5 inches
    Thickness (bottom of the keyboard to the top half): 1.5 inches


    Huh? The F AT does not have F12 and Escape is in the numpad area.

    Those dimensions seem awfully large, are we talking about the 84-key Model F AT?

    I'm sorry, think across from 1 to backspace. I just put those in so you can visualize which direction I'm talking about. And yes, the 84 key Model F AT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:18:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:11:52
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:07:17
    I have checked out via Paypal and there are no shipping charges applied. Do they ship internationally for free?!

    I have no idea how Geekhackers.org's shipping works because it's new. If there's an issue or question, feel free to ask here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58137.0) and/or PM mkawa.

    It looks like a bug that really needs to be fixed asap, as I had to sign up and add an address to my account and then check-out NOT using Paypal before it applied International Shipping. This in itself is not a problem, however, I could have checked out for $12 only instead of $22.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:19:35
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:18:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:11:52
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:07:17
    I have checked out via Paypal and there are no shipping charges applied. Do they ship internationally for free?!

    I have no idea how Geekhackers.org's shipping works because it's new. If there's an issue or question, feel free to ask here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58137.0) and/or PM mkawa.

    It looks like a bug that really needs to be fixed asap

    So comment in that thread?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:38:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:11:52
    So comment in that thread?

    Have done so now :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:38:53
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:38:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:11:52
    So comment in that thread?

    Have done so now :)

    Great! Here's to hoping you get your adapter soon :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:57
    Hiya, I've read up about lubing on the first page.
    I've actually meaning to try to lube my clears that I have to be used with 62g springs.
    Just wondering where can I get the lube from other than techkeys. I think those are a little too much for a 60% board that I'm planning on assembling. My current location is in the UK if that helps. Another thing I would like to ask about is, lubing the stabs. Should I just lube the stabs or do I just clip them ?
    Or should I do both ? Probably the same thing, I'll just need a little to lube the stabs therefore I'm not too keen on purchasing a whole tube. Would like to ask if I can get them in small quantity.

    Thanks ! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:23:02
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:57
    Hiya, I've read up about lubing on the first page.
    I've actually meaning to try to lube my clears that I have to be used with 62g springs.
    Just wondering where can I get the lube from other than techkeys. I think those are a little too much for a 60% board that I'm planning on assembling. My current location is in the UK if that helps. Another thing I would like to ask about is, lubing the stabs. Should I just lube the stabs or do I just clip them ?
    Or should I do both ? Probably the same thing, I'll just need a little to lube the stabs therefore I'm not too keen on purchasing a whole tube. Would like to ask if I can get them in small quantity.
    Thanks ! :D

    Well, I usually measure carefully for what I lube so here are somewhat maybe useful for you:
    - 60%: 2.3g of lube
    - 87%: 3.2g of lube
    - 104% : 3.9g of lube
    so what you get from techkey (4g) actually is perfectly for your need if you are going to lube 60% + the stabilizers. What techkey has probably the smallest package that you can have on the retail market, I think.

    You can either clip the stabs or lube or do both. It is just a matter of personal reference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:28:18
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:23:02
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:57
    Hiya, I've read up about lubing on the first page.
    I've actually meaning to try to lube my clears that I have to be used with 62g springs.
    Just wondering where can I get the lube from other than techkeys. I think those are a little too much for a 60% board that I'm planning on assembling. My current location is in the UK if that helps. Another thing I would like to ask about is, lubing the stabs. Should I just lube the stabs or do I just clip them ?
    Or should I do both ? Probably the same thing, I'll just need a little to lube the stabs therefore I'm not too keen on purchasing a whole tube. Would like to ask if I can get them in small quantity.
    Thanks ! :D

    Wait so the lube from techkeys are alright for lubing stabs as well ? I'm going to order the thick variant if that helps.  :)
    Thanks again for the reply  :cool:

    Well, I usually measure carefully for what I lube so here are somewhat maybe useful for you:
    - 60%: 2.3g of lube
    - 87%: 3.2g of lube
    - 104% : 3.9g of lube
    so what you get from techkey (4g) actually is perfectly for your need if you are going to lube 60% + the stabilizers. What techkey has probably the smallest package that you can have on the retail market, I think.

    You can either clip the stabs or lube or do both. It is just a matter of personal reference.

    Oh alright. Just wanna ask if the techkeys lube are usable for stabs, or I'm getting the message wrongly.  :-X
    In this case would the thick lube be sufficient ? Or should I go for the very thick one instead ?
    Thanks  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 14 May 2014, 23:21:55
    I'd like to get into switch tuning. What equipment do I need to start things off?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 14 May 2014, 23:23:27
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 14 May 2014, 23:21:55
    I'd like to get into switch tuning. What equipment do I need to start things off?

    An adjustable iron, Soldapult or Hakko 808/clone is very handy.  Outside of that just the materials you are using to tune your switches.

    Really though, anything to get the solder off the PCB will work, just some methods work better than others.  But the easier the method the more expensive it is generally.

    Edit so I don't double post.  On my M that I bolt modded a couple of the keys ping real bad when I release and they don't actuate until just before the bottom of the keystroke.  I was told that it is probably the bolts were to tight (brand new barrel plate from unicomp).  So I messed with those and got no change.  Upon further inspection the legends on a couple of the keys are actually starting to wear.    I am thinking I should replace the caps and springs/hammers for the entire board before selling so the end purchaser gets the full appreciation of the glory that is buckling spring. 

    1.  Could these symptoms be from weak/worn out springs?
    2.  Would this be a wise decision?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 00:15:59
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:28:18
    Oh alright. Just wanna ask if the techkeys lube are usable for stabs, or I'm getting the message wrongly.  :-X
    In this case would the thick lube be sufficient ? Or should I go for the very thick one instead ?
    Thanks  ;D

    Then it comes to stabilizers and keyswitch matter. If you have Costa stabilizers, you should go with Thick lube or Super Thick.  If you have Cherry stabilizers, Thin lube would be a better choice.

    However, it comes to a second question, which kind of key switch you are going to lube, Cherry Mx Black, Brown or Clear?  It's more important. You should base on the type of your switch to choose the type of lube instead of the stabilizers. The stabilizers should come later because I think Thick or Thin lube on techkey doesn't create big impact on key feeling stabilizer feelings.

    Some combinations:
    Black (or 80g spring) + Costa stabilizers : Thick lube
    Super Black (or > 100g spring) + Costa stabilizers : Super Thick
    Black (or 80g spring) + Cherry stabilizers : Thick or Thin
    Ergo Clear (or 62g spring) + Cherry stabilizers : Thin
    ...

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Thu, 15 May 2014, 01:21:43
    Hi, I just read at deskthority that RF 55g is an exclusive product of Elite Keyboards... Is it true?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 04:34:53
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 00:15:59
    Then it comes to stabilizers and keyswitch matter.

    Lubing the switch will not change the feel of the stabilizer of course. For the stabilizer grease is recommended instead of normal lube. If you have Cherry stabilizers you should also clip them.

    As for which lube I would just follow mkawas recommendation: thick for clears, thin for linears.

    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 14 May 2014, 23:21:55
    I'd like to get into switch tuning. What equipment do I need to start things off?

    As Melvang already said, you need some soldering equipment and the materials that you need for the mods themselves, so stickers, lube and springs. I would also highly recommend you to buy or build yourself a switch opening tool.

    Quote from: juguerre on Thu, 15 May 2014, 01:21:43
    Hi, I just read at deskthority that RF 55g is an exclusive product of Elite Keyboards... Is it true?

    Nope: http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1339555983
    Found this via the DT wiki.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:15:55
    Ouch! 350$ for the RF 55g... :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:22:48
    Quote from: juguerre on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:15:55
    Ouch! 350$ for the RF 55g... :'(

    Where did you get that price?
    I saw EK only selling at 215$
    http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se0800
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:28:35
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:22:48
    Quote from: juguerre on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:15:55
    Ouch! 350$ for the RF 55g... :'(

    Where did you get that price?
    I saw EK only selling at 215$
    http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se0800

    At the link I posted just one post above his.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:36:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 04:34:53
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 14 May 2014, 23:21:55
    I'd like to get into switch tuning. What equipment do I need to start things off?

    As Melvang already said, you need some soldering equipment and the materials that you need for the mods themselves, so stickers, lube and springs. I would also highly recommend you to buy or build yourself a switch opening tool.
    Which kind of lube? From techkeys.us? And where can I buy a switch opening tool/how do I build one myself?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:47:04
    I'd recommend skipping the switch stickers, unless you're doing it for purely aesthetic reasons. And in that case, I'd recommend you think hard about how often you're going to actually look at the switches, and when the answer is "every time I occasionally swap keycaps," skip the stickers anyways.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:56:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 14 May 2014, 23:23:27

    On my M that I bolt modded a couple of the keys ping real bad when I release and they don't actuate until just before the bottom of the keystroke.  I was told that it is probably the bolts were to tight (brand new barrel plate from unicomp).  So I messed with those and got no change.  Upon further inspection the legends on a couple of the keys are actually starting to wear.    I am thinking I should replace the caps and springs/hammers for the entire board before selling so the end purchaser gets the full appreciation of the glory that is buckling spring. 

    1.  Could these symptoms be from weak/worn out springs?
    2.  Would this be a wise decision?


    On a bolt mod I keep my bolts loose. I hold the 4mm socket in my fingers and go to just barely what I would call "snug"

    I have tried going tighter and it almost always seems to cause problems.

    Tired/worn/weak springs may be a myth. I am not sure that I buy that idea, although I have tons of extra springs so I always try to use ones that look fresh and shiny.

    Legends wearing on dye-sub PBT caps? They must have A LOT of use on them!

    White Unicomp legends are pad printed and wear out rapidly.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 07:25:40
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:36:16
    Which kind of lube? From techkeys.us? And where can I buy a switch opening tool/how do I build one myself?

    You can get it from mechanicalkeyboards.com, too, whatever you prefer.

    TheBeast occasionally gets some switch tools made, you can also look in the classifieds. Descriptions of how to build one are here, you need to scroll down a bit: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/i-did-a-guide-of-how-to-open-cherry-switches-t2458.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:00:38
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:57
    1) Just wondering where can I get the lube from other than techkeys. My current location is in the UK if that helps. 2)Should I just lube the stabs or do I just clip them ?

    1) Like BlueBar mentioned, you can buy Krytox lube from MechanicalKeyboards.com as well.
    2) I know WASD and The_Beast have said they used SuperLube (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Super-Lube-3-oz-Tube-Synthetic-Grease-with-Syncolon-PTFE-21030/202932687) to lube their stabilizers. I have non-lubed, clipped Cherry stabilizers on my KMAC.

    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:36:16
    Where can I buy a switch opening tool/how do I build one myself?

    Check out this link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_LL).

    Quote from: juguerre on Thu, 15 May 2014, 01:21:43
    Hi, I just read at deskthority that RF 55g is an exclusive product of Elite Keyboards... Is it true?

    I believe that the exclusivity thing is only for the US. Hence the Leopold link from BlueBar.

    Quote from: riotonthebay on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:47:04
    I'd recommend skipping the switch stickers, unless you're doing it for purely aesthetic reasons. And in that case, I'd recommend you think hard about how often you're going to actually look at the switches, and when the answer is "every time I occasionally swap keycaps," skip the stickers anyways.

    I completely agree with this. I don't sticker any of my switches or keyboards. I don't feel any difference when switches are stickered and I don't care about the looks when I'm swapping caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:10:17
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 07:25:40
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:36:16
    Which kind of lube? From techkeys.us? And where can I buy a switch opening tool/how do I build one myself?

    You can get it from mechanicalkeyboards.com, too, whatever you prefer.

    TheBeast occasionally gets some switch tools made, you can also look in the classifieds. Descriptions of how to build one are here, you need to scroll down a bit: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/i-did-a-guide-of-how-to-open-cherry-switches-t2458.html

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:24:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 04:34:53
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 00:15:59
    Then it comes to stabilizers and keyswitch matter.

    Lubing the switch will not change the feel of the stabilizer of course. For the stabilizer grease is recommended instead of normal lube. If you have Cherry stabilizers you should also clip them.

    As for which lube I would just follow mkawas recommendation: thick for clears, thin for linears.


    Hiya, I'm planning to get the thick version. But as you said the grease are recommended instead of lube. Is there any grease I can get in small quantity or amount tho?
    Thanks.

    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 00:15:59
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:28:18
    Oh alright. Just wanna ask if the techkeys lube are usable for stabs, or I'm getting the message wrongly.  :-X
    In this case would the thick lube be sufficient ? Or should I go for the very thick one instead ?
    Thanks  ;D

    Then it comes to stabilizers and keyswitch matter. If you have Costa stabilizers, you should go with Thick lube or Super Thick.  If you have Cherry stabilizers, Thin lube would be a better choice.

    However, it comes to a second question, which kind of key switch you are going to lube, Cherry Mx Black, Brown or Clear?  It's more important. You should base on the type of your switch to choose the type of lube instead of the stabilizers. The stabilizers should come later because I think Thick or Thin lube on techkey doesn't create big impact on key feeling stabilizer feelings.

    Some combinations:
    Black (or 80g spring) + Costa stabilizers : Thick lube
    Super Black (or > 100g spring) + Costa stabilizers : Super Thick
    Black (or 80g spring) + Cherry stabilizers : Thick or Thin
    Ergo Clear (or 62g spring) + Cherry stabilizers : Thin
    ...

    I'm planning to lube clears with 62g. I guess thick should be a better choice no? Cause I'm planning to lube the sliders and rail of the stem and housing. Then again thick lube should be alright for lubing the stabs as well. I'm using cherry stabs Btw.


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:00:38
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:57
    1) Just wondering where can I get the lube from other than techkeys. My current location is in the UK if that helps. 2)Should I just lube the stabs or do I just clip them ?

    1) Like BlueBar mentioned, you can buy Krytox lube from MechanicalKeyboards.com as well.
    2) I know WASD and The_Beast have said they used SuperLube (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Super-Lube-3-oz-Tube-Synthetic-Grease-with-Syncolon-PTFE-21030/202932687) to lube their stabilizers. I have non-lubed, clipped Cherry stabilizers on my KMAC.


    Oh. The thing is MK's shipping to UK is quite a hefty amount :( Another thing I would like to ask is whether if I were to clip the stabs, is lubing really necessary? Superlube is quite pricey I'd say (at least from the prices I see online in the UK) and the hassle to look for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:27:04
    Quote from: pichu23 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:24:31
    Hiya, I'm planning to get the thick version. But as you said the grease are recommended instead of lube. Is there any grease I can get in small quantity or amount tho?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:00:38
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:57
    2)Should I just lube the stabs or do I just clip them ?

    2) I know WASD and The_Beast have said they used SuperLube (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Super-Lube-3-oz-Tube-Synthetic-Grease-with-Syncolon-PTFE-21030/202932687) to lube their stabilizers. I have non-lubed, clipped Cherry stabilizers on my KMAC.

    Try looking for an equivalent grease to SuperLube in a small quantity near you?

    Quote from: pichu23 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:24:31
    I'm planning to lube clears with 62g. I guess thick should be a better choice no? Cause I'm planning to lube the sliders and rail of the stem and housing. Then again thick lube should be alright for lubing the stabs as well. I'm using cherry stabs Btw.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 04:34:53
    As for which lube I would just follow mkawas recommendation: thick for clears, thin for linears.

    Since mkawa is the one that created the thick and thin mixes you're buying from TechKeys or Mechanicalkeyboards.com, I think sticking with his recommendations is a good idea. So thick mixture Krytox lube on clears. Also typically Krytox is only used to lube switches, not stabilizers. You're more than welcome to experience though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:34:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:27:04
    Quote from: pichu23 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:24:31
    Hiya, I'm planning to get the thick version. But as you said the grease are recommended instead of lube. Is there any grease I can get in small quantity or amount tho?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:00:38
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:57
    2)Should I just lube the stabs or do I just clip them ?

    2) I know WASD and The_Beast have said they used SuperLube (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Super-Lube-3-oz-Tube-Synthetic-Grease-with-Syncolon-PTFE-21030/202932687) to lube their stabilizers. I have non-lubed, clipped Cherry stabilizers on my KMAC.

    Try looking for an equivalent grease to SuperLube in a small quantity near you?

    Quote from: pichu23 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:24:31
    I'm planning to lube clears with 62g. I guess thick should be a better choice no? Cause I'm planning to lube the sliders and rail of the stem and housing. Then again thick lube should be alright for lubing the stabs as well. I'm using cherry stabs Btw.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 04:34:53
    As for which lube I would just follow mkawas recommendation: thick for clears, thin for linears.

    Since mkawa is the one that created the thick and thin mixes you're buying from TechKeys or Mechanicalkeyboards.com, I think sticking with his recommendations is a good idea. So thick mixture Krytox lube on clears. Also typically Krytox is only used to lube switches, not stabilizers. You're more than welcome to experience though.

    Thanks ! I'll get the thick one then. I'll try and look around the convenient store for grease then. Any particular characteristic on the grease that I should be looking out for ? :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:39:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:00:38
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:57
    Any particular characteristic on the grease that I should be looking out for ? :3

    If you're not sure, walk into a hardware store and ask them if they have a general purpose synthetic grease similar to SuperLube then show them that ad in the link I posted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:50:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:39:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 08:00:38
    Quote from: pichu23 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 21:52:57
    Any particular characteristic on the grease that I should be looking out for ? :3

    If you're not sure, walk into a hardware store and ask them if they have a general purpose synthetic grease similar to SuperLube then show them that ad in the link I posted.

    Okie dokey :D thanks again !
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:13:32
    What caps are these and how much do they usually go for?
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kmac4.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:17:01
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:13:32
    What caps are these and how much do they usually go for?
    Show Image
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kmac4.jpg)


    They look to me like original Cherry dyesubs. (The legends don't quite pop enough for me to think they're doubleshot.)

    For a mint condition ANSI set like that, you're talking $200+.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:17:28
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:13:32
    What caps are these and how much do they usually go for?
    Show Image
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kmac4.jpg)


    Hard to tell exactly but it looks like harvested black on beige Cherry dyesub or doubleshot. If its dyesub, it's PBT. If it's doubleshot, it's ABS. Your best source for them is something like eBay. And the price will depend on the condition obviously. Here is a guide (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers) on Cherry keyboards and what keycaps they'll have. I'm also far from a Cherry expert so talking to someone like photekq, sixty, or Ivan will get you more info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:23:23
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:17:01
    They look to me like original Cherry dyesubs. (The legends don't quite pop enough for me to think they're doubleshot.)

    I think the legends are too thin for dyesub though :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:25:34
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:23:23
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:17:01
    They look to me like original Cherry dyesubs. (The legends don't quite pop enough for me to think they're doubleshot.)

    I think the legends are too thin for dyesub though :-X

    That's true. The ? especially looks very thin. Well, scooped F/J and A-profile bottom row (I think?) limit it to either dyesubs or doubleshots.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:27:47
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:13:32
    What caps are these and how much do they usually go for?


    I suppose that it is the "pebble" color modifiers that drive the price up?

    I am going to be selling a very nice straight-ANSI 11900 dye-sub PBT shortly, and I would be delighted to get 1/4 of that price.

    But mine has all beige keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:29:19
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:27:47
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:13:32
    What caps are these and how much do they usually go for?


    I suppose that it is the "pebble" color modifiers that drive the price up?

    I am going to be selling a very nice straight-ANSI 11900 dye-sub PBT shortly, and I would be delighted to get 1/4 of that price.

    But mine has all beige keys.

    No it's the fact that people have been trying to find the sets NIB. And this is not the price check thread so let's migrate this discussion elsewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:39:12
    That set looks like Cherry doubleshots not dyesubs to me. I say that because of the slight reflection coming off the bottom row, and because of the colour. The grey modifiers on dyesub sets are lighter.

    It's really hard to tell from that photo though.

    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:27:47
    ANSI 11900 dye-sub PBT
    Dyesubbed 11900? Do you mean lasered?

    Dyesubs go for $200-300+ due to their rarity. Doubleshot and lasered Cherry caps are fairly easy to find in decent condition. Dyesubs are incredibly hard to find in any condition.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:44:36
    Some follow up pics:
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kmac2.jpg)
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kmac5.jpg)
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kmac3.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:45:27
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:44:36
    Some follow up pics:
    Show Image
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kmac2.jpg)

    Show Image
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kmac5.jpg)

    Show Image
    (http://www.listokei.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kmac3.jpg)


    There's a bit of shine there so I think it's doubleshot ABS. Again, refer to my previous post. Which has relevant information. There's no retail store or GB currently selling these so you'll have to hunt. Well...maybe Sherry still has some but I'm not sure what the status of the Originative store is right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:49:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:45:27
    There's a bit of shine there so I think it's doubleshot ABS. Again, refer to my previous post. Which has relevant information. There's no retail store or GB currently selling these so you'll have to hunt. Well...maybe Sherry still has some but I'm not sure what the status of the Originative store is right now.

    I'll take a look around. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:53:45
    Those just made me even more unsure. In the second pic the legends look off-black like dyesubs, and in the third the colours of the keys is much more similar to dyesubs.

    Honestly, I don't know, although I think they're most likely doubleshots. Who took the photos?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:56:01
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:53:45
    Those just made me even more unsure. In the second pic the legends look off-black like dyesubs, and in the third the colours of the keys is much more similar to dyesubs.

    Honestly, I don't know, although I think they're most likely doubleshots. Who took the photos?

    From Listokei's site. But I don't know if that mean's Lisotkei took the pictures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 10:00:03
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:39:12
    Doubleshot and lasered Cherry caps are fairly easy to find in decent condition. Dyesubs are incredibly hard to find in any condition.

    OK, you're right.

    I had to get out a magnifying glass and bright light.

    Mine are lasered.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 10:16:34
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 15 May 2014, 09:53:45
    Those just made me even more unsure. In the second pic the legends look off-black like dyesubs, and in the third the colours of the keys is much more similar to dyesubs.

    Look at the 7 on the F7 key in the second picture. Again, too thin for dyesubs imo. Also seems somewhat shiny.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 12:23:06
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:28:35
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:22:48
    Quote from: juguerre on Thu, 15 May 2014, 06:15:55
    Ouch! 350$ for the RF 55g... :'(

    Where did you get that price?
    I saw EK only selling at 215$
    http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se0800

    At the link I posted just one post above his.
    Oh, I see, thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Fri, 16 May 2014, 09:29:59
    How often do "Stickiness" occur?

    I just swopped my set on my pure to a dsa set and now the spacebar isn't as nice and springy anymore and I cant change the spring inside as i dont have anything small to open the switch with...

    Do people usually use reds and have a black for a spacebar??

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 May 2014, 09:44:58
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Fri, 16 May 2014, 09:29:59
    1) I just swopped my set on my pure to a dsa set and now the spacebar isn't as nice and springy anymore and I cant change the spring inside as i dont have anything small to open the switch with...

    2) Do people usually use reds and have a black for a spacebar?

    1) Stickiness after a swap like that usually means something wasn't set correct. Perhaps a stabilizer was shifted or it's not being seated right. Or maybe the spacebar is somehow shifted forward and hitting the case.

    2) You can if you want. I don't think the older Cherry boards were setup like that though. For example, Greens were used in the spacebar switch on a board with MX blues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Fri, 16 May 2014, 12:02:12
    Would the taihao gb dolch + addon fit on a kmac?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 May 2014, 12:08:28
    Quote from: combataran on Fri, 16 May 2014, 12:02:12
    Would the taihao gb dolch + addon fit on a kmac?

    Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Fri, 16 May 2014, 12:35:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 May 2014, 09:44:58
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Fri, 16 May 2014, 09:29:59
    1) I just swopped my set on my pure to a dsa set and now the spacebar isn't as nice and springy anymore and I cant change the spring inside as i dont have anything small to open the switch with...

    2) Do people usually use reds and have a black for a spacebar?

    1) Stickiness after a swap like that usually means something wasn't set correct. Perhaps a stabilizer was shifted or it's not being seated right. Or maybe the spacebar is somehow shifted forward and hitting the case.

    2) You can if you want. I don't think the older Cherry boards were setup like that though. For example, Greens were used in the spacebar switch on a board with MX blues.

    Oh dear I'm abit worried now. Cause at first it was rubbing against the keys on the row above it and it was really bad so I flipped it over and while it doesnt rub against the keys on the other rows anymore, it doesn't have that crisp feeling anymore..

    I'm not sure how to check if the stabs are a little off or not but they seem to be properly put on

    EDIT: So I swopped back the old spacebar and everything works just fine. Nice and crisp. Just that DSA spacebar is abit slow and stiff on the bounceback
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Fri, 16 May 2014, 13:57:55
    These. What caps are these(I only know they are doubleshots)? Pic from Reaper's KMAC Alert(?) review.
    (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07418.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 May 2014, 13:58:40
    Quote from: combataran on Fri, 16 May 2014, 13:57:55
    These. What caps are these(I only know they are doubleshots)? Pic from Reaper's KMAC Alert(?) review.
    Show Image
    (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07418.jpg)


    Dude...don't those look exactly the same as the other keycaps you posted from Listokei? They're the same thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 16 May 2014, 14:15:17
    Again, they're original Cherry doubleshots, from keyboards like the G80-3000HAU, etc.

    The caps lock is from a G80-2550HPD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gh_pp on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:44:04
    Installed my GMK key caps on QFR for a week and I noticed the cap-lock (I use it as Ctrl) is behaving differently than other keys.

    So I popped it open and noticed there is a small plastic stem prop up which grinds against the cap-lock LED.

    (http://i.imgur.com/ktOcYou.jpg)

    Are all GMK cap-lock keys like that? Or maybe the QFR's led position is not common?

    What can I do to fix this? I don't think a file can reach there.

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:51:49
    Quote from: gh_pp on Fri, 16 May 2014, 16:44:04
    Installed my GMK key caps on QFR for a week and I noticed the cap-lock (I use it as Ctrl) is behaving differently than other keys.

    So I popped it open and noticed there is a small plastic stem prop up which grinds against the cap-lock LED.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ktOcYou.jpg)


    Are all GMK cap-lock keys like that? Or maybe the QFR's led position is not common?

    What can I do to fix this? I don't think a file can reach there.

    Thanks

    You could:

    A) Clip that little plastic support using some flush cutters or similar; and/or

    B) Remove the LED and sand the top of it flat using sandpaper. Then reinstall.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Fri, 16 May 2014, 20:58:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 May 2014, 13:58:40
    Quote from: combataran on Fri, 16 May 2014, 13:57:55
    These. What caps are these(I only know they are doubleshots)? Pic from Reaper's KMAC Alert(?) review.
    Show Image
    (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07418.jpg)


    Dude...don't those look exactly the same as the other keycaps you posted from Listokei? They're the same thing.
    Lol. Sorry, they all look so much alike. It's either beige or something similar. Thanks again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 16 May 2014, 21:12:17
    Just for my reference the correct dimensions for standard 6.25 unit space bar to stabilizers is 50mm off the center stem, and 57.15mm for a 7 unit, correct?

    I am looking for dimensions that fit the more common locations for space bars that are available aftermarket.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 May 2014, 21:24:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 16 May 2014, 21:12:17
    Just for my reference the correct dimensions for standard 6.25 unit space bar to stabilizers is 50mm off the center stem, and 57.15mm for a 7 unit, correct?

    I am looking for dimensions that fit the more common locations for space bars that are available aftermarket.

    Referencing the DT wiki, it looks like your 6.25x (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions#6.25_units_.28118mm_wide.2C_3_mounts.2C_50mm_apart.29) and 7x (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions#7_units_.28133mm_wide.2C_3_mounts.2C_57mm_apart.29) measurements are correct.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 16 May 2014, 21:24:49
    Awesome thanks CPTBadAss.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 17 May 2014, 03:45:06
    just curious, what is BSP MOQ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 05:59:12
    Short version: Is there any method to verify the quality of a Cherry MX key switch without using electricity? Or is there any way to shorten the path to verify switch quality?

    Long version: After harvesting about 87 Cherry MX Black key switch from a mint condition keyboard (Deck TG3 BL 82, ebay) I clean, lube and solder them to a Filco MJ2. At first, things go smoothly, but when I plug the keyboard back and use Aqua Test Key to test, I discover that there are quite a lot of key switches in bad condition (12, to be precise). In those bad key switches, the key code is generated randomly at the activation point. Sometimes, I need to press 4-5 times before it can be generated.
    [attachimg=2]
    Well, I'm quite surprise because this is the first time, I faced this big number of bad key switches / keyboard even those switches look pretty new to me.
    [attachimg=1]
    *Indeed, after I replace those bottom housings, the keyboard can work perfectly.

    So the question is there any method to test them without using electricity (Or at least to shorten the path) because I need to spend quite sometimes to do trial and error before I can identity all those 12 bad key switches.

    Thank you in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 17 May 2014, 07:11:38
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 17 May 2014, 03:45:06
    just curious, what is BSP MOQ?

    Should be 400.

    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 05:59:12
    Short version: Is there any method to verify the quality of a Cherry MX key switch without using electricity? Or is there any way to shorten the path to verify switch quality?

    I think every multimeter has a continuity check. Attach the probes to the switch contacts and press the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 17 May 2014, 09:31:27
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 05:59:12
    Well, I'm quite surprise because this is the first time, I faced this big number of bad key switches / keyboard even those switches look pretty new to me.

    I've had the same issue. Corrosion and bent leaf springs can be the cause of this. If you replaced the switch bottoms and they worked again, I wonder if you somehow had a lot of bent leaf springs from a drop or something.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 17 May 2014, 07:11:38
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 05:59:12
    Short version: Is there any method to verify the quality of a Cherry MX key switch without using electricity? Or is there any way to shorten the path to verify switch quality?

    I think every multimeter has a continuity check. Attach the probes to the switch contacts and press the switch.

    For sure this is the easiest way to check your soldering or to see if switches are working. No need to plug it into the computer or anything. I was doing this just yesterday. For more information on the continuity check on a multimeter, check out this ladyada guide (http://www.ladyada.net/library/metertut/continuity.html).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:02:00
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 17 May 2014, 07:11:38
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 05:59:12
    Short version: Is there any method to verify the quality of a Cherry MX key switch without using electricity? Or is there any way to shorten the path to verify switch quality?

    I think every multimeter has a continuity check. Attach the probes to the switch contacts and press the switch.

    Someone should make a little PCB with a speaker you could put a switch it, depress it and it makes a beep if its good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:06:38
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:02:00
    Someone should make a little PCB with a speaker you could put a switch it, depress it and it makes a beep if its good.

    They did, it's called a multimeter. Mines beeps when the continuity check is good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:18:08
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 17 May 2014, 07:11:38
    I think every multimeter has a continuity check. Attach the probes to the switch contacts and press the switch.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 17 May 2014, 09:31:27
    For sure this is the easiest way to check your soldering or to see if switches are working. No need to plug it into the computer or anything. I was doing this just yesterday. For more information on the continuity check on a multimeter, check out this ladyada guide (http://www.ladyada.net/library/metertut/continuity.html).

    Hi BlueBär and CPTBadAss,

    Well noted with thanks. Perhaps, the involvement of electric checking by using a multimeters is unavoidable.
    Currently I had a Kyoritsu multimeters but I only used it to check the voltage or amplifiers. Thank you for your suggestions, I will get a very small clip connectors and definitely will do that next time.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 17 May 2014, 09:31:27
    I've had the same issue. Corrosion and bent leaf springs can be the cause of this. If you replaced the switch bottoms and they worked again, I wonder if you somehow had a lot of bent leaf springs from a drop or something.

    I have no idea why this time it had so many bad switches. Corrosion would be the reason but quite weird because it looks very shinny. Never mind, lesson learnt, I must do the checking before soldering next time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:19:59
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:02:00
    Someone should make a little PCB with a speaker you could put a switch it, depress it and it makes a beep if its good.
    Sound promising  :thumb:
    If someone make that kind of PCB / switch tester / lube station, I will order immediately  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:55:40
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:19:59
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:02:00
    Someone should make a little PCB with a speaker you could put a switch it, depress it and it makes a beep if its good.
    Sound promising  :thumb:
    If someone make that kind of PCB / switch tester / lube station, I will order immediately  :))

    [attach=1]

    just a cartoon  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 11:05:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 May 2014, 10:55:40
    (Attachment Link)
    just a cartoon  ;D

    Oh man, it's nice. I didn't notice this.
    It seems the speakers implementation is complicated, perhaps just a simple 3mm replaceable led would be more than enough for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 11:54:08
    I just did a quick test by using the trace detector mode with speakers enabled on my multimeter.
    It works perfectly. The bad switch obviously output unstable signal. The speakers from the multimeter does help to identity.

    So I take a picture just in case someone face the same issue as me.
    No more soldering needed, indeed this is not the best way to test because I still need to turn the test board up-side-down. But well, it is better than nothing.
    (http://i.imgur.com/x2enEgp.jpg)

    Thank you, BlueBär, CPTBadAss and Ray


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 17 May 2014, 11:55:22
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sat, 17 May 2014, 11:05:14
    It seems the speakers implementation is complicated, perhaps just a simple 3mm replaceable led would be more than enough for me.

    Nah, nothing complicated, if you simply use a piezo beeper it instead of a normal speaker it will simply beep when the switch works, that's how multimeters do it too afaik.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sacratoy on Sat, 17 May 2014, 22:53:31
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=696

    Should I buy this keyboard? I don't need it, I have a Shine 3 TKL, Poker II, and a G710+. It's extremely expensive, and really it would be complete avarice. I guess a weak excuse would be I would like to try out Green switches.

     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 17 May 2014, 22:58:16
    Quote from: sacratoy on Sat, 17 May 2014, 22:53:31
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=696

    Should I buy this keyboard? I don't need it, I have a Shine 3 TKL, Poker II, and a G710+. It's extremely expensive, and really it would be complete avarice. I guess a weak excuse would be I would like to try out Green switches.

    I have no idea. Do you want it? Does your budget allow for it? If you can afford it and you want it, get it. If you can't and don't actually want it, don't.

    If you just want to try some green switches, buy a handful and swap them into your keyboard or get a hold of a tester such as the CM one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 18 May 2014, 09:53:04
    Quote from: sacratoy on Sat, 17 May 2014, 22:53:31
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=696

    Should I buy this keyboard? I don't need it, I have a Shine 3 TKL, Poker II, and a G710+. It's extremely expensive, and really it would be complete avarice. I guess a weak excuse would be I would like to try out Green switches.

    If you want to try greens you can do it for a lot cheaper.

    The point of this keyboard is the cost. Taihuojin (the Chinese name for the gold edition) is basically Chinese for "I''m really rich, look at all of this gold stuff that I have that you don't"

    So if you want that in your life, fine. I think it's a waste to spend that much on a non-custom or non-topre.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 12:51:20
    Quote from: sacratoy on Sat, 17 May 2014, 22:53:31
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=696

    Should I buy this keyboard? I don't need it, I have a Shine 3 TKL, Poker II, and a G710+. It's extremely expensive, and really it would be complete avarice. I guess a weak excuse would be I would like to try out Green switches.

    Oh wow $264.

    you can get a 60% korean custom for that price of maybe a tkl for a bit more
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sacratoy on Sun, 18 May 2014, 15:11:58
    Thanks for the comments, y'all. I have some strange nights where I need to fight the impulse to buy something that just looks cool. "Damn that looks nice/is kind of rare; I have the cash, why not?" situations.

    There are wiser ways to spend the money in this hobby. Thanks for the suggestions. I don't mind putting the cash down for nice keyboards, but there are better ways.

    Just need to learn to fight the impulse, perhaps not making it so public.

    Thanks again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:01:03
    Quote from: sacratoy on Sun, 18 May 2014, 15:11:58
    Thanks for the comments, y'all. I have some strange nights where I need to fight the impulse to buy something that just looks cool. "Damn that looks nice/is kind of rare; I have the cash, why not?" situations.

    There are wiser ways to spend the money in this hobby. Thanks for the suggestions. I don't mind putting the cash down for nice keyboards, but there are better ways.

    Just need to learn to fight the impulse, perhaps not making it so public.

    Thanks again.

    If you ever feel like you have too much money, I can always give you my paypal to deposit into. If you ever do feel an impulsive need in the middle of the night to deposit money in there, don't hesitate to do so as well.

    Nah, you know I kid...


    But seriously tho...

    I've had and still have a ton hobbies and this keyboard thing is my latest one. Pretty much the rest of my hobbies are really pricey to maintain and keep them up so I had to let go of a few cause I had to save up for months for a fad and once I've gotten it, a new thing comes out.

    When I got into keyboards, I straight away did my research. Planned out what I wanted to achieve with it and just go straight there. Skip all the collecting, and unnecessary spending and just know what I want, and aim for it, as you can read in my signature. For me, my end goal was to do an affordable customized keyboard and so I got a cool 60% with some amazon vouchers during a school survey to play around with. Now i'm just waiting for certain keycaps and parts to come online in the group buy and the vendor forums and I'm done spending, or at least I hope.

    I hope you can find what you want the end result of this keyboard hobby to be. Of course it doesn't have to be like mine. And it doesnt have to end at 1 keyboard or anything, as you've seen here on the forums. But just know what you want and decide. Take your time and plan each buy carefully, weighing out the pros and cons. If you really want it, go ahead and pull the trigger. If it doesnt turn out well, there's always the classifieds to salvage what's left of the item's worth.

    Some people like to collect many small stuff. Other just like to go for 1 really huge and expensive buy. It really depends.

    All the best! :)

    ______________________________________________________________________

    I have a question. What's the cheapest topre board to get hold of?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:04:02
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:01:03
    I have a question. What's the cheapest topre board to get hold of?

    That should be the Topre Type Heaven.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:10:11
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:04:02
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:01:03
    I have a question. What's the cheapest topre board to get hold of?

    That should be the Topre Type Heaven.

    Oh wow and even that is $145 on amazon...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:11:45
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:10:11
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:04:02
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:01:03
    I have a question. What's the cheapest topre board to get hold of?

    That should be the Topre Type Heaven.

    Oh wow and even that is $145 on amazon...

    I heard that the novatouch will be $150, if you want to wait for that instead
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 18 May 2014, 21:08:51
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:11:45
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:10:11
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:04:02
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:01:03
    I have a question. What's the cheapest topre board to get hold of?

    That should be the Topre Type Heaven.

    Oh wow and even that is $145 on amazon...

    I heard that the novatouch will be $150, if you want to wait for that instead

    Nope, it won't be.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 18 May 2014, 21:17:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:11:45
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:10:11
    I have a question. What's the cheapest topre board to get hold of?
    I heard that the novatouch will be $150, if you want to wait for that instead

    That's apparently the "early adopter pricing" which YuukiHaruto was a part of (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57150.msg1333340#msg1333340). It remains to be seen what the actual price is.

    I was mistaken, my link is pricing for the Rapid-I. My bad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 18 May 2014, 21:19:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 18 May 2014, 21:17:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:11:45
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:10:11
    I have a question. What's the cheapest topre board to get hold of?
    I heard that the novatouch will be $150, if you want to wait for that instead

    That's apparently the "early adopter pricing" which YuukiHaruto was a part of (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57150.msg1333340#msg1333340). It remains to be seen what the actual price is.

    That's the QF-I post, not Novatouch though.

    I've been given a range for the Novatouch, but $150 is not in that range.  The Type Heaven will be its closest competitor though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 18 May 2014, 21:30:25
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 18 May 2014, 21:19:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 18 May 2014, 21:17:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:11:45
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sun, 18 May 2014, 18:10:11
    I have a question. What's the cheapest topre board to get hold of?
    I heard that the novatouch will be $150, if you want to wait for that instead

    That's apparently the "early adopter pricing" which YuukiHaruto was a part of (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57150.msg1333340#msg1333340). It remains to be seen what the actual price is.

    That's the QF-I post, not Novatouch though.

    I've been given a range for the Novatouch, but $150 is not in that range.  The Type Heaven will be its closest competitor though.

    Ugh you're right. My bad. Too many soldering fumes :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rosslerosa on Sun, 18 May 2014, 23:16:30
    Can I still buy GH60? or do I have to wait for the next round?
    Just wondering because I see the order form is still up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 19 May 2014, 02:16:11
    Quote from: rosslerosa on Sun, 18 May 2014, 23:16:30
    Can I still buy GH60? or do I have to wait for the next round?
    Just wondering because I see the order form is still up.

    Right above the link to the order form there is an ordering deadline in bright red which has passed over a year ago. So no, you can't.

    You will probably be able to buy one after they have shipped in the classifieds though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 19 May 2014, 04:52:24
    Are there any white on brown Cherry or GMK keysets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 19 May 2014, 05:00:11
    Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 19 May 2014, 04:52:24
    Are there any white on brown Cherry or GMK keysets?

    I think Ivan once posted some brownish Cherry caps but I'm not sure. Even if there are some though they're probably very rare.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 19 May 2014, 05:13:54
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 19 May 2014, 05:00:11
    Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 19 May 2014, 04:52:24
    Are there any white on brown Cherry or GMK keysets?
    I think Ivan once posted some brownish Cherry caps but I'm not sure. Even if there are some though they're probably very rare.
    Probably yeah. I am mostly interested in a white on brown Esc-key but as far as I can recall I have never seen the brown ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 May 2014, 07:38:17
    Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 19 May 2014, 05:13:54
    Are there any white on brown Cherry or GMK keysets?


    I've never seen this color combination either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:23:14
    Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 19 May 2014, 04:52:24
    Are there any white on brown Cherry or GMK keysets?



    http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/blaupunkt-btx-keyboard-t5525.html?hilit=blaupunkt

    And brown on white : http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/cherry-blaupunkt-btx-t7873.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:58:40
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:23:14
    http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/blaupunkt-btx-keyboard-t5525.html?hilit=blaupunkt

    And brown on white : http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/cherry-blaupunkt-btx-t7873.html

    Ah yes that's the one I meant! I knew they existed :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:11:11
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 19 May 2014, 10:23:14
    Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 19 May 2014, 04:52:24
    Are there any white on brown Cherry or GMK keysets?
    http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/blaupunkt-btx-keyboard-t5525.html?hilit=blaupunkt
    And brown on white : http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/cherry-blaupunkt-btx-t7873.html
    *Runs off to eBay*

    Thanks! :D

    EDIT: bounces back... to reality
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 18:24:49
    Given that a large number of people have wooden desks, I have always wondered why brown was not a popular color for keyboards and keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 19 May 2014, 18:27:12
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 18:24:49
    Given that a large number of people have wooden desks, I have always wondered why brown was not a popular color for keyboards and keys.

    Might be hard to match to the wood of your desk? Not sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 May 2014, 19:33:15
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 18:24:49
    Given that a large number of people have wooden desks, I have always wondered why brown was not a popular color for keyboards and keys.


    I don't think this is a simple question :p

    Maybe because wood looks really old-fashioned, especially for computer peripherals.  Most seem to be black or silver (or white) these days, with a few exceptions like Ducky Yellow, and custom keyboards.

    Assuming you mean plain brown, and not brown wood-textured, the Retro DSA key set was popular, but only amongst a small dedicated subset of enthusiasts.  The recent Coffee GB by KeyPop (also brown) attracted single figure orders (according to one post).

    Just seems that brown is not that popular a colour.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 20:50:33
    What printing method was used on the IBM model M keycaps? Model number I have is 13914041

    Reason why I ask is this keyboard is 25 years old and the legends are 100% clear and un-faded, yet there is no evidence of dye sublimation etc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 20:52:17
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 20:50:33
    What printing method was used on the IBM model M keycaps? Model number I have is 13914041

    Reason why I ask is this keyboard is 25 years old and the legends are 100% clear and un-faded, yet there is no evidence of dye sublimation etc

    Dye-sublimation, of course.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 19 May 2014, 20:52:30
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 20:50:33
    What printing method was used on the IBM model M keycaps? Model number I have is 13914041

    Reason why I ask is this keyboard is 25 years old and the legends are 100% clear and un-faded, yet there is no evidence of dye sublimation etc

    Dye sublimated PBT
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zig_ziglar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 21:13:50
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 19 May 2014, 20:52:30
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 20:50:33
    What printing method was used on the IBM model M keycaps? Model number I have is 13914041

    Reason why I ask is this keyboard is 25 years old and the legends are 100% clear and un-faded, yet there is no evidence of dye sublimation etc

    Dye sublimated PBT
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 20:52:17
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 20:50:33
    What printing method was used on the IBM model M keycaps? Model number I have is 13914041

    Reason why I ask is this keyboard is 25 years old and the legends are 100% clear and un-faded, yet there is no evidence of dye sublimation etc

    Dye-sublimation, of course.




    Thought it must be, but you can't see the dye sublimation from the underside ... Pretty amazing how well thought out the M is ... A testimony to the old "built to last" mindset that has unfortunately faded over time and is almost non-existent now-days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 19 May 2014, 23:11:44
    How good are the Vortex DS PBT caps? Just curious.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 19 May 2014, 23:24:01
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 21:13:50
    Thought it must be, but you can't see the dye sublimation from the underside ... Pretty amazing how well thought out the M is ... A testimony to the old "built to last" mindset that has unfortunately faded over time and is almost non-existent now-days.

    Dyesub is really a bad word for it. The process is more like a Dye Diffusion. The dye comes in on the top of the keycap, and only goes in less than a mm. You can't see it on the bottom at all.

    I agree though. The M, despite being a huge cost cutting measure over the F is still built sturdily enough to work after decades. I sometimes wish that things were more expensive and repairable instead of cheaper and disposable, but that seems to be the way we are going.

    Computer repair used to be a big thing, but soon, I expect they'll be more disposable. After that, vehicles will be disposable, then housing, then we'll make whole societies disposable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:13:55
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 19 May 2014, 23:11:44
    How good are the Vortex DS PBT caps? Just curious.

    There are plenty of reviews for them already on this website. What version are you looking for? R1 italics or R2 BiColor?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:18:08
    RGB mods from Desko keyboards were not made by BSP, right? I.e., they do not have the banana-like right shift?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:24:41
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:18:08
    RGB mods from Desko keyboards were not made by BSP, right? I.e., they do not have the banana-like right shift?

    The originative ones? Or OG Deskos?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:25:19
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:24:41
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:18:08
    RGB mods from Desko keyboards were not made by BSP, right? I.e., they do not have the banana-like right shift?

    The originative ones? Or OG Deskos?

    The OG ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:35:36
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:13:55
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 19 May 2014, 23:11:44
    How good are the Vortex DS PBT caps? Just curious.

    There are plenty of reviews for them already on this website. What version are you looking for? R1 italics or R2 BiColor?
    The bicolors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:48:56
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 19 May 2014, 23:24:01
    Quote from: zig_ziglar on Mon, 19 May 2014, 21:13:50
    Thought it must be, but you can't see the dye sublimation from the underside ... Pretty amazing how well thought out the M is ... A testimony to the old "built to last" mindset that has unfortunately faded over time and is almost non-existent now-days.

    Dyesub is really a bad word for it. The process is more like a Dye Diffusion. The dye comes in on the top of the keycap, and only goes in less than a mm. You can't see it on the bottom at all.

    I agree though. The M, despite being a huge cost cutting measure over the F is still built sturdily enough to work after decades. I sometimes wish that things were more expensive and repairable instead of cheaper and disposable, but that seems to be the way we are going.

    Computer repair used to be a big thing, but soon, I expect they'll be more disposable. After that, vehicles will be disposable, then housing, then we'll make whole societies disposable.

    To be clear, dye sublimation is still the "correct" industry term for the process.  There is technically no sublimation occurring, but it is still the term used to describe the process.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Tue, 20 May 2014, 01:06:06
    Just thinking about topre "snappy' feeling...  How RF 55g  compares to other switches? Is there a difference between" old" Fc660c and the "new" one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 20 May 2014, 02:28:54
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:18:08
    RGB mods from Desko keyboards were not made by BSP, right? I.e., they do not have the banana-like right shift?
    Sadly, they were made by BSP. They do have the banana-like right shift :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 02:37:34
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 20 May 2014, 02:28:54
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:18:08
    RGB mods from Desko keyboards were not made by BSP, right? I.e., they do not have the banana-like right shift?
    Sadly, they were made by BSP. They do have the banana-like right shift :'(

    D:

    Did anyone else ever make winkeyless PBT RBG Cherry mods? Does a proper, non-banana set exist at all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 20 May 2014, 03:27:04
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:35:36
    The bicolors.

    The legends of the italic ones were pretty bad as they had varying thickness. The legends of the bicolors seem to be a lot better. You can find a review here (these are unicoloured but essentially the same): http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56399.msg1273075

    Quote from: juguerre on Tue, 20 May 2014, 01:06:06
    1. How RF 55g  compares to other switches?
    2. Is there a difference between" old" Fc660c and the "new" one?

    1. People generally say that the closest MX switch to Topre are Ergo Clears. Topre has a big bump and smooth travel. Not a Topre expert though.
    2. The only difference should be the keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 03:40:05
    Is there a specific date/year that separates vintage MX switches from current ones? I'm mainly talking about browns.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 20 May 2014, 04:33:23
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 02:37:34
    D:

    Did anyone else ever make winkeyless PBT RBG Cherry mods? Does a proper, non-banana set exist at all?
    GMK, SP. There are no 'proper' BSP/Cherry dyesubs ones that I know of.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 03:40:05
    Is there a specific date/year that separates vintage MX switches from current ones? I'm mainly talking about browns.
    You should ask sprit about this. He knows a lot about vintage switches + different switch ages
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Tue, 20 May 2014, 06:46:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 20 May 2014, 03:27:04
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:35:36
    The bicolors.

    The legends of the italic ones were pretty bad as they had varying thickness. The legends of the bicolors seem to be a lot better. You can find a review here (these are unicoloured but essentially the same): http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56399.msg1273075

    Quote from: juguerre on Tue, 20 May 2014, 01:06:06
    1. How RF 55g  compares to other switches?
    2. Is there a difference between" old" Fc660c and the "new" one?

    1. People generally say that the closest MX switch to Topre are Ergo Clears. Topre has a big bump and smooth travel. Not a Topre expert though.
    2. The only difference should be the keycaps.
    I mean how it compares with other topre switches (HHKB, fc660c, silent o not silent). I ask for this because I read people saying that 45g RF is not the same that 45g in other topre "flavors" (regarding "snappy" feeling).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 20 May 2014, 07:35:51
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 20 May 2014, 03:27:04
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 20 May 2014, 00:35:36
    The bicolors.

    The legends of the italic ones were pretty bad as they had varying thickness. The legends of the bicolors seem to be a lot better. You can find a review here (these are unicoloured but essentially the same): http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56399.msg1273075

    Looks good, thanks for the link.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: codyeatworld on Tue, 20 May 2014, 07:56:33
    Anybody know the size/type of KMAC screws?

    I need to replace all of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 20 May 2014, 09:02:53
    Are there any advantages to using right angle mini connectors compared to straight ones, like different stress points, maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 20 May 2014, 10:29:41
    Quote from: codyeatworld on Tue, 20 May 2014, 07:56:33
    Anybody know the size/type of KMAC screws?

    I need to replace all of them.

    I don't know their length but they're M2 and M3 screws. Also take a look at this topic: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56065.0

    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 20 May 2014, 09:02:53
    Are there any advantages to using right angle mini connectors compared to straight ones, like different stress points, maybe?

    Some people use them because they don't stick out as much (for example some people put their mechs on their laptops). I don't know if it makes much of a difference in terms of durability.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:01:40
    Can I just solder any LEDs to my keyboards with LED slots?

    I read that you can't have LEDs with less than 3 forward voltage else they won't work.

    Has anyone tried? Primarily red and orange LEDs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:07:02
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:01:40
    Can I just solder any LEDs to my keyboards with LED slots?

    I read that you can't have LEDs with less than 3 forward voltage else they won't work.

    Has anyone tried? Primarily red and orange LEDs

    I've never calculated any voltages for my LEDs, I've just done swaps. I haven't had issues so far. But check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0) for some actual information and numbers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:13:07
    So I am thinking of making some diode leg bending tools for common widths, while I have the width for the in switch version for cherry. 

    Anyone know the width between pads for the Phantom? 

    Does the ergo dox use either of these widths?

    Would like to use the 2 most common lengths, and these seem like to two most popular builds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:52:50
    How easily does soft anodized alum scratch?

    Such as when:

    On wood desk
    In backpack
    Hitting hard carpet
    Hitting wood doors/walls
    Falling
    Pens hit it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:57:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:52:50
    How easily does soft anodized alum scratch?

    Such as when:

    On wood desk
    In backpack
    Hitting hard carpet
    Hitting wood doors/walls
    Falling
    Pens hit it

    What if you throw it on the ground?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:58:25
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:57:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:52:50
    How easily does soft anodized alum scratch?

    Such as when:

    On wood desk
    In backpack
    Hitting hard carpet
    Hitting wood doors/walls
    Falling
    Pens hit it

    What if you throw it on the ground?

    Question: will you be throwing it onto a pile of pens or just onto hard carpet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:01:54
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:58:25
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:57:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:52:50
    How easily does soft anodized alum scratch?

    Such as when:

    On wood desk
    In backpack
    Hitting hard carpet
    Hitting wood doors/walls
    Falling
    Pens hit it

    What if you throw it on the ground?

    Question: will you be throwing it onto a pile of pens or just onto hard carpet?

    I was leaning towards concrete or dirt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:13:28

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:57:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:52:50
    How easily does soft anodized alum scratch?

    Such as when:

    On wood desk
    In backpack
    Hitting hard carpet
    Hitting wood doors/walls
    Falling
    Pens hit it

    What if you throw it on the ground?

    I'm not part of your system.

    KMAC to the ground!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:15:17
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:13:28

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:57:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:52:50
    How easily does soft anodized alum scratch?

    Such as when:

    On wood desk
    In backpack
    Hitting hard carpet
    Hitting wood doors/walls
    Falling
    Pens hit it

    What if you throw it on the ground?

    I'm not part of your system.

    KMAC to the ground!

    See JD knows whats up.

    And to be on topic I think the color of the anodizing along with metal type will change the answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:16:34
    Quote from: codyeatworld on Tue, 20 May 2014, 07:56:33
    Anybody know the size/type of KMAC screws?

    I need to replace all of them.

     :))  :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:17:41

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:15:17
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:13:28

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:57:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:52:50
    How easily does soft anodized alum scratch?

    Such as when:

    On wood desk
    In backpack
    Hitting hard carpet
    Hitting wood doors/walls
    Falling
    Pens hit it

    What if you throw it on the ground?

    I'm not part of your system.

    KMAC to the ground!

    See JD knows whats up.

    And to be on topic I think the color of the anodizing along with metal type will change the answer.

    and furthermore, hitting your keyboard against doors and dropping it is never advised. A fair number of dinged cases pop up, so it must not be too hard to do...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:19:14
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:17:41

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:15:17
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:13:28

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:57:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:52:50
    How easily does soft anodized alum scratch?

    Such as when:

    On wood desk
    In backpack
    Hitting hard carpet
    Hitting wood doors/walls
    Falling
    Pens hit it

    What if you throw it on the ground?

    I'm not part of your system.

    KMAC to the ground!

    See JD knows whats up.

    And to be on topic I think the color of the anodizing along with metal type will change the answer.

    and furthermore, hitting your keyboard against doors and dropping it is never advised. A fair number of dinged cases pop up, so it must not be too hard to do...

    But most of those actually ding the case itself. Hard anodizing might help with scratches but its not going to stop a dent.

    Also I may not make Amy sense I'm half asleep.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 20 May 2014, 22:23:47
    My advice? Use your keyboard for whatever you want. If you need to smack someone in the mouth with it on your way out of the office after being fired, smack away. You'll probably lose a few keycaps, though.

    For defense against zombie bites, I'd recommend a Model M, however. Especially the models with the channel openings in the case, which will allow the blood and bile to run right out from the barrel plate and not accumulate in the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 02:03:36
    Which version PCB is compatible with a KMAC 1.2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 21 May 2014, 02:10:14
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 02:03:36
    Which version PCB is compatible with a KMAC 1.2?

    What PCB? KMAC PCB? Its standard TKL isn't it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 02:14:02
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 21 May 2014, 02:10:14
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 02:03:36
    Which version PCB is compatible with a KMAC 1.2?

    What PCB? KMAC PCB? Its standard TKL isn't it?
    Theres the 1.2 and 1.4 kmac pcb. Im not sure which one to get as a backup.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 May 2014, 06:43:49
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 02:03:36
    Which version PCB is compatible with a KMAC 1.2?

    Look up a picture of which PCB the 1.2 had then get that one. I don't recall exactly which PCB it has.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 21 May 2014, 06:45:41
    Both PCBs should fit the 1.2 case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 May 2014, 06:52:17

    For the record had this keyboard been soft anodized would it have been messed up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 21 May 2014, 06:57:14
    Why did I watch that video over 15 times? :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:02:47
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 21 May 2014, 06:45:41
    Both PCBs should fit the 1.2 case.
    Where can I find a 1.4 pcb? Originative maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:06:41
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:02:47
    Where can I find a 1.4 pcb? Originative maybe?
    kbdmod.co.kr
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:07:36
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:02:47
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 21 May 2014, 06:45:41
    Both PCBs should fit the 1.2 case.
    Where can I find a 1.4 pcb? Originative maybe?

    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=19&cate_no=4&display_group=1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:48:20
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:52:50
    How easily does soft anodized alum scratch?

    Such as when:

    On wood desk
    In backpack
    Hitting hard carpet
    Hitting wood doors/walls
    Falling
    Pens hit it

    I don't advise you to drop or throw your keyboard. And you should probably not drop it on anything. But if you really care to find out, here's a selection of articles on anodization that will answer questions for strength, corrosion resistance, and wear:

    The bonding strength and corrosion resistance of aluminum alloy by anodizing treatment in a phosphoric acid modified boric acid/sulfuric acid bath (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0257897207011772)

    The Effect of Anodizing to Minimize Friction and
    Wear of Aluminum Surfaces  (http://www.ewp.rpi.edu/hartford/~leblar2/FWM/Project/FWM%20Final%20Project.pdf)

    Anodising of Aluminum (http://nzic.org.nz/ChemProcesses/metals/8E.pdf)

    Book entitled "Handbook of Aluminum Bonding Technology and Data" (http://books.google.com/books?id=dSQ8cS5WXpcC&pg=PA41&dq=%22anodization%22+aluminum+durability+strength&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SJ18U8bjIMeNqAbUrYKgDA&ved=0CEUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22anodization%22%20aluminum%20durability%20strength&f=false)

    These are *not* my articles, the authors names are all listed in the documents. They're just being provided for you to learn. And I'm not doing a TL:DR.

    That being said, anodization is used in the aerospace industry to protect parts but at work, we still have issues with scratches and dings everyday in the factory. Don't be stupid with your keyboard and treat it like you would your phone.

    No I'm not drop testing my KMAC for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:53:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:07:02
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:01:40
    Can I just solder any LEDs to my keyboards with LED slots?

    I read that you can't have LEDs with less than 3 forward voltage else they won't work.

    Has anyone tried? Primarily red and orange LEDs

    I've never calculated any voltages for my LEDs, I've just done swaps. I haven't had issues so far. But check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0) for some actual information and numbers.

    Did you change them to red or orange LEDs by any chance? They work fine right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:56:04
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:53:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:07:02
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:01:40
    Can I just solder any LEDs to my keyboards with LED slots?

    I read that you can't have LEDs with less than 3 forward voltage else they won't work.

    Has anyone tried? Primarily red and orange LEDs

    I've never calculated any voltages for my LEDs, I've just done swaps. I haven't had issues so far. But check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0) for some actual information and numbers.

    Did you change them to red or orange LEDs by any chance? They work fine right?

    No I didn't swap orange or red LEDs in. I swapped magenta ones in. But I did put an Orange LED in the techkeys business card without issue. Take an LED, put it into your keyboard, see if it works. If it doesn't then it's time to figure out different resistors.

    As I already stated, I haven't swapped out any resistors and the swaps I've done have worked fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:12:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:48:20
    No I'm not drop testing my KMAC for you.

    No need for that, just use your Kingsaver.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:24:22
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:07:36
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:02:47
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 21 May 2014, 06:45:41
    Both PCBs should fit the 1.2 case.
    Where can I find a 1.4 pcb? Originative maybe?

    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=19&cate_no=4&display_group=1
    Do I need a proxy for this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:28:03
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:24:22
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:07:36
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:02:47
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 21 May 2014, 06:45:41
    Both PCBs should fit the 1.2 case.
    Where can I find a 1.4 pcb? Originative maybe?

    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=19&cate_no=4&display_group=1
    Do I need a proxy for this?

    AFAIK, yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:28:35
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:24:22
    Quote from: epzy on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:07:36
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:02:47
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 21 May 2014, 06:45:41
    Both PCBs should fit the 1.2 case.
    Where can I find a 1.4 pcb? Originative maybe?

    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=19&cate_no=4&display_group=1
    Do I need a proxy for this?

    Yes (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41096.msg880770#msg880770).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:32:13
    Apparently you can email them and they'll help you order if you're outside of Korea. I don't know for sure though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 21 May 2014, 09:47:16
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:32:13
    Apparently you can email them and they'll help you order if you're outside of Korea. I don't know for sure though.
    Oh? I'll shoot them an email then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 21 May 2014, 14:50:32
    Quote from: komar007 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 05:09:56
    Quote from: kekstee on Wed, 02 April 2014, 04:50:38
    Quote from: komar007 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:22:56
    It's not done by default, especially because this wouldn't fit acrylic cases.
    Sounds like it will collide with about every aluminium case as well. Added depth below the the top row?
    The most protruding part of the module will be the header pins, which will stand 5.5mm out of the mainboard

    Can anyone confirm if this will be a issue with the FMJ Design 1 from Round 1?

    edit: incase you have no idea what I am talking about... the added width for the led module addition on the gh60 rev.c may cause the gh60 to not fit in some of the cases that people have purchased for there gh60's
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 21 May 2014, 15:00:04
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 21 May 2014, 14:50:32
    Can anyone confirm if this will be a issue with the FMJ Design 1 from Round 1?

    edit: incase you have no idea what I am talking about... the added width for the led module addition on the gh60 rev.c may cause the gh60 to not fit in some of the cases that people have purchased for there gh60's

    It will not get wider but "thicker". Since we don't know exactly yet how much more space is needed this is impossible to say right now, you can only guess (well apart from if a Rev. C has already been built with the addon module, I only know that there was a prototype of the addon module made).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 21 May 2014, 15:04:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 21 May 2014, 15:00:04
    Quote from: domoaligato on Wed, 21 May 2014, 14:50:32
    Can anyone confirm if this will be a issue with the FMJ Design 1 from Round 1?

    edit: incase you have no idea what I am talking about... the added width for the led module addition on the gh60 rev.c may cause the gh60 to not fit in some of the cases that people have purchased for there gh60's

    It will not get wider but "thicker". Since we don't know exactly yet how much more space is needed this is impossible to say right now, you can only guess (well apart from if a Rev. C has already been built with the addon module, I only know that there was a prototype of the addon module made).

    yeah I meant to say thickness. derp. anyways thanks for the info. I guess I will just have to wait and see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:17:47
    Are Realforce and Leopold related? Just watched an image with Leopold-realforce written on a keyboard!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:20:51
    I'm sure I will get more then one answer, but what is the best solder for soldering switches?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:52:29
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:20:51
    I'm sure I will get more then one answer, but what is the best solder to use for switch replacement?

    Yes, there are more than one answer but I can nominate two, Kester 44 0.6mm SN63Pb37 (core rosin) and Kester 245 0.6mm SN63Pb37 (no clean).

    Quote from: juguerre on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:17:47
    Are Realforce and Leopold related? Just watched an image with Leopold-realforce written on a keyboard!

    Leopold is just a Topre distributor, just like you can see Ducky in Taiwan is also a Topre distributor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 May 2014, 07:23:16
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:20:51
    I'm sure I will get more then one answer, but what is the best solder for soldering switches?

    I use Kester 44 .031" diameter. I think mkawa is still selling it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 07:40:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 May 2014, 07:23:16
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:20:51
    I'm sure I will get more then one answer, but what is the best solder for soldering switches?

    I use Kester 44 .031" diameter. I think mkawa is still selling it.

    Okay.   Thanks CPT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 11:56:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 May 2014, 07:23:16
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:20:51
    I'm sure I will get more then one answer, but what is the best solder for soldering switches?

    I use Kester 44 .031" diameter. I think mkawa is still selling it.

    according to the description on geekhackers.org mkawa sells Kester 44 63/37 Sn/Pb RA 0.02" Solder

    http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/soldering-tools-and-supplies/products/activate-rosin-core-fine-pitch-eutectic-leaded-solder

    unless he is selling other solder not listed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 May 2014, 11:57:49
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 11:56:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 May 2014, 07:23:16
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 03:20:51
    I'm sure I will get more then one answer, but what is the best solder for soldering switches?

    I use Kester 44 .031" diameter. I think mkawa is still selling it.

    according to the description on geekhackers.org mkawa sells Kester 44 63/37 Sn/Pb RA 0.02" Solder

    http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/soldering-tools-and-supplies/products/activate-rosin-core-fine-pitch-eutectic-leaded-solder

    unless he is selling other solder not listed.

    Then apparently I'm using .020" diameter lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:37:04
    Is that Kester solder considered no-clean?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:38:42
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:37:04
    Is that Kester solder considered no-clean?

    /me shrugs

    I don't ever clean my PCBs after soldering. Never had an issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:39:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:38:42
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:37:04
    Is that Kester solder considered no-clean?

    /me shrugs

    I don't ever clean my PCBs after soldering. Never had an issue.

    I tried cleaning my PCBs after soldering but I never got anything off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:40:45
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:37:04
    Is that Kester solder considered no-clean?

    Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 10 February 2014, 20:06:36
    it's technically no-clean, but i like to clean RA flux first, because it's sticky and annoying, and only gets more sticky and annoying as it dries out, but also because even though it's no-clean in an industrial sense, it still leaves a very mildly active residue and you will get the best results if you clean it up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:48:05
    Thanks  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:25:11
    Do metal keycaps such as zinc and aluminum pretty much last forever?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:28:21
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:25:11
    Do metal keycaps such as zinc and aluminum pretty much last forever?

    I can't find the picture or thread right this second but there's a disgusting picture of zinc keycaps reacting with someone's finger oils or something. They looked horrible. I dont think zinc keycaps are very durable.

    I don't know much about aluminum keycaps. I suppose I could put one of my aluminum novelties on a daily driver and see what happens.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:35:57
    Ah the oils, good point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:27:57
    How do you turn on PokerX's LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:53:00
    Quote from: Jixr on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:27:57
    How do you turn on PokerX's LEDs?

    poker x doesn't have LEDs, or I'm not aware of them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 21:17:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:53:00
    Quote from: Jixr on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:27:57
    How do you turn on PokerX's LEDs?

    poker x doesn't have LEDs, or I'm not aware of them

    No, it does have leds on some positions (esc, spacebar) .
    These leds were designed for changing mode.
    To turn those led on, we need to press : Fn+Q or Fn+Spacebar

    Plus, as you can see in the Poker X that I just modded the plate yesterday, it also has led holes so we can mode the leds with additional wiring. Indeed, this non-trivial task, but we know they are there once we need  ;D.
    (http://i.imgur.com/qSaxlrl.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:39:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:40:45
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:37:04
    Is that Kester solder considered no-clean?

    Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 10 February 2014, 20:06:36
    it's technically no-clean, but i like to clean RA flux first, because it's sticky and annoying, and only gets more sticky and annoying as it dries out, but also because even though it's no-clean in an industrial sense, it still leaves a very mildly active residue and you will get the best results if you clean it up.

    What would you clean it with?   Isopropyl Alcohol?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:45:48
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:39:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:40:45
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:37:04
    Is that Kester solder considered no-clean?

    Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 10 February 2014, 20:06:36
    it's technically no-clean, but i like to clean RA flux first, because it's sticky and annoying, and only gets more sticky and annoying as it dries out, but also because even though it's no-clean in an industrial sense, it still leaves a very mildly active residue and you will get the best results if you clean it up.

    What would you clean it with?   Isopropyl Alcohol?

    Yes, as high of percentage as you can find.  Highest I have available locally is 91%.

    Speaking of which, anyone know where I can find hydrogen peroxide higher than a 4% concentration for doing retro brite work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:47:57
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:45:48
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:39:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:40:45
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:37:04
    Is that Kester solder considered no-clean?

    Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 10 February 2014, 20:06:36
    it's technically no-clean, but i like to clean RA flux first, because it's sticky and annoying, and only gets more sticky and annoying as it dries out, but also because even though it's no-clean in an industrial sense, it still leaves a very mildly active residue and you will get the best results if you clean it up.

    What would you clean it with?   Isopropyl Alcohol?

    Yes, as high of percentage as you can find.  Highest I have available locally is 91%.

    Okay.  Thanks Melvang.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 23:00:11
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:45:48
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:39:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:40:45
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 12:37:04
    Is that Kester solder considered no-clean?

    Quote from: mkawa on Mon, 10 February 2014, 20:06:36
    it's technically no-clean, but i like to clean RA flux first, because it's sticky and annoying, and only gets more sticky and annoying as it dries out, but also because even though it's no-clean in an industrial sense, it still leaves a very mildly active residue and you will get the best results if you clean it up.

    What would you clean it with?   Isopropyl Alcohol?

    Yes, as high of percentage as you can find.  Highest I have available locally is 91%.

    Speaking of which, anyone know where I can find hydrogen peroxide higher than a 4% concentration for doing retro brite work?
    http://www.purehealthdiscounts.com/h2o2.htm
    you gotta scroll down near the bottom to find the actual product
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:06:26
    Undecided in which keyboard to buy: Ducky Shine 3 TLK or Filco MJ2 Ninja TKL.

    The backlighting is a non-factor for me. Which has the better build quality?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:10:39
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:06:26
    Undecided in which keyboard to buy: Ducky Shine 3 TLK or Filco MJ2 Ninja TKL.

    The backlighting is a non-factor for me. Which has the better build quality?

    Build quality is very good on both.  The ducky has a removable cable with cherry stabilizers, while the filxo has a fixed cable and costar stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:14:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:10:39
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:06:26
    Undecided in which keyboard to buy: Ducky Shine 3 TLK or Filco MJ2 Ninja TKL.

    The backlighting is a non-factor for me. Which has the better build quality?

    Build quality is very good on both.  The ducky has a removable cable with cherry stabilizers, while the filxo has a fixed cable and costar stabilizers.
    I don't mind the cable being fixed but I don't know the difference in feel between the stabilizers. Which keyboard do you prefer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: studybreak on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:15:17
    Would this connector (http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B0016RTO1M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y be  (http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B0016RTO1M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y be)) be likely to allow using a 5-pin 122 key Model M on a modern computer without dead keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:19:42
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:14:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:10:39
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:06:26
    Undecided in which keyboard to buy: Ducky Shine 3 TLK or Filco MJ2 Ninja TKL.

    The backlighting is a non-factor for me. Which has the better build quality?

    Build quality is very good on both.  The ducky has a removable cable with cherry stabilizers, while the filxo has a fixed cable and costar stabilizers.
    I don't mind the cable being fixed but I don't know the difference in feel between the stabilizers. Which keyboard do you prefer?

    I personally prefer costar or cherry if they are clipped.  Cherry stabs that are not clipped feel very mushy at the bottom of the keystroke.  Some people like that some don't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:30:12
    Quote from: studybreak on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:15:17
    Would this connector (http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B0016RTO1M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y be  (http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B0016RTO1M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y be)) be likely to allow using a 5-pin 122 key Model M on a modern computer without dead keys?

    I *think* so? I can't remember if you can just use a converter on a terminal board though.

    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:14:16
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:06:26
    Undecided in which keyboard to buy: Ducky Shine 3 TLK or Filco MJ2 Ninja TKL.
    I don't mind the cable being fixed but I don't know the difference in feel between the stabilizers. Which keyboard do you prefer?

    If I had to pick between the two? Filco. But I'm a Filco fanboy.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:50:58
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:14:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:10:39
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:06:26
    Undecided in which keyboard to buy: Ducky Shine 3 TLK or Filco MJ2 Ninja TKL.

    The backlighting is a non-factor for me. Which has the better build quality?

    Build quality is very good on both.  The ducky has a removable cable with cherry stabilizers, while the filxo has a fixed cable and costar stabilizers.
    I don't mind the cable being fixed but I don't know the difference in feel between the stabilizers. Which keyboard do you prefer?

    I own both,, I like my Filcos more. The ducky has a lot of strange issues with my VOIP softwares.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 15:02:10
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:50:58
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:14:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:10:39
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:06:26
    Undecided in which keyboard to buy: Ducky Shine 3 TLK or Filco MJ2 Ninja TKL.

    The backlighting is a non-factor for me. Which has the better build quality?

    Build quality is very good on both.  The ducky has a removable cable with cherry stabilizers, while the filxo has a fixed cable and costar stabilizers.
    I don't mind the cable being fixed but I don't know the difference in feel between the stabilizers. Which keyboard do you prefer?

    I own both,, I like my Filcos more. The ducky has a lot of strange issues with my VOIP softwares.
    I'm already pretty sold on the Filco, but you elaborate on why you prefer it? (other than the voip software thing which seems awkward)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 11:58:13
    The Filco is lighter, which is nice when I want to keep my keyboard in my lap (which is often). The LEDs in the Ducky's spacebar shine in my face when I lean back, which is really annoying, and leads me to keep them off 100% of the time. My USB-A to mini-B cable has some problems, but since the Filco has a non-detachable cable, these issues are not present. Filco does not twist as much as the Ducky in the "Twist test" but my black MJ2 makes some nasty creaking. Filco has more custom case options. Ducky's QC has been known to be lacking in some parts, mainly LED testing.

    I could go on, but I just woke up and this post probably reads like crap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 24 May 2014, 13:01:28
    Filco's are built like tanks. they have the best build quality of pretty much every out of the box cherry keyboard (some actual cherry brand keyboards are better). I would choose a cm storm qfr before a ducky also.
    Filco > QFR > Ducky as long as led's are not important.
    Eventually you might move past all this TKL and move to a 60%, in which case the search begins again :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 24 May 2014, 13:10:49
    Quote from: SpikeBolt on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:06:26
    Undecided in which keyboard to buy: Ducky Shine 3 TLK or Filco MJ2 Ninja TKL.

    The backlighting is a non-factor for me. Which has the better build quality?

    I'd go with the Ducky just because I think it feels much better to type on than my Filco's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 24 May 2014, 13:28:48
    it all comes back to personal preference. :)
    I have a model f and I love it more then any of my cherry mx boards, but it is too loud to use at home(wife hates it) or at work(coworkers hate it).
    So it sits in a closet until one day that either my wife leaves me or I change jobs. lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 24 May 2014, 14:25:03
    Random question: who would I talk to to get the Geekhack logo in AI so I can print it off large in quality?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 24 May 2014, 14:28:02
    Which logo? There are a few... oh wait there is only nostalgia ^_^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 24 May 2014, 16:11:10
    Quote from: domoaligato on Sat, 24 May 2014, 14:28:02
    Which logo? There are a few... oh wait there is only nostalgia ^_^

    Just the Geekhack text.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 24 May 2014, 17:16:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:30:12
    Quote from: studybreak on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:15:17
    Would this connector (http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B0016RTO1M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y be  (http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B0016RTO1M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y be)) be likely to allow using a 5-pin 122 key Model M on a modern computer without dead keys?

    I *think* so? I can't remember if you can just use a converter on a terminal board though.

    Depends on the board.

    Some, especially terminal emulator M122's will work on PS/2 with either no problem or with no problem once a jumper is set.

    Some work more like the F122's and "barely" work on PS/2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 May 2014, 11:27:56
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 24 May 2014, 14:25:03
    Random question: who would I talk to to get the Geekhack logo in AI so I can print it off large in quality?

    So you can check out this Wiki entry (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=GeekHack_Artwork_Resources) which should have the logo. mkawa and Krogenar should have the logo files. The "Geekhack" font is also called Special Elite. An example of what this font looks like can be found in bunnylake's sale thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58507.0). Look at the little card with the text on it.

    (http://i.imgur.com/ogKzqQe.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 25 May 2014, 16:31:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 May 2014, 11:27:56
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 24 May 2014, 14:25:03
    Random question: who would I talk to to get the Geekhack logo in AI so I can print it off large in quality?

    So you can check out this Wiki entry (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=GeekHack_Artwork_Resources) which should have the logo. mkawa and Krogenar should have the logo files. The "Geekhack" font is also called Special Elite. An example of what this font looks like can be found in bunnylake's sale thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58507.0). Look at the little card with the text on it.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ogKzqQe.jpg)


    Thx Cpt'n
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 25 May 2014, 16:48:10
    Quote from: studybreak on Fri, 23 May 2014, 14:15:17
    Would this connector (http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B0016RTO1M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y be  (http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Keyboard-Adapter-MiniDin6/dp/B0016RTO1M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y be)) be likely to allow using a 5-pin 122 key Model M on a modern computer without dead keys?

    Isn't that an ordinary AT-to-PS/2 type adapter? I have never seen an M-122 with that plug.

    The early ones that I have had my hands on had the 240-degree connection, and the later ones were RJ-45-ish or PS/2.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:36:36
    Is it rare to see a Poker II on Massdrop or on sale? Rare as in 2-3 times a year or none at all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:37:57
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:36:36
    Is it rare to see a Poker II on Massdrop or on sale? Rare as in 2-3 times a year or none at all?

    like a month ago there were p2's on md
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:40:30
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:37:57
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:36:36
    Is it rare to see a Poker II on Massdrop or on sale? Rare as in 2-3 times a year or none at all?

    like a month ago there were p2's on md

    Mixed emotions of happy and sad :\
    thanks tho heh
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:49:37
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:40:30
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:37:57
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:36:36
    Is it rare to see a Poker II on Massdrop or on sale? Rare as in 2-3 times a year or none at all?

    like a month ago there were p2's on md

    Mixed emotions of happy and sad :\
    thanks tho heh

    They offer MX Clear Poker 2's now, which is unique.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 25 May 2014, 20:47:56
    Quote from: epzy on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:49:37
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:40:30
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:37:57
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:36:36
    Is it rare to see a Poker II on Massdrop or on sale? Rare as in 2-3 times a year or none at all?

    like a month ago there were p2's on md

    Mixed emotions of happy and sad :\
    thanks tho heh

    They offer MX Clear Poker 2's now, which is unique.

    Seriously? I've never noticed those. Interesting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 25 May 2014, 21:31:36
    What's the difference between the layouts of the Duck Mini v2 and the Duck Eagle?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 May 2014, 21:50:52
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 25 May 2014, 21:31:36
    What's the difference between the layouts of the Duck Mini v2 and the Duck Eagle?

    I thought both were 60% boards with different cases. Also I think the Eagle is MX only and the Mini can take both MX and Alps. Same layout iirc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 25 May 2014, 23:33:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 May 2014, 21:50:52
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 25 May 2014, 21:31:36
    What's the difference between the layouts of the Duck Mini v2 and the Duck Eagle?

    I thought both were 60% boards with different cases. Also I think the Eagle is MX only and the Mini can take both MX and Alps. Same layout iirc.
    Guess that explains the lower price point then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 26 May 2014, 03:02:46
    Anyone know what the radius of curve in Model M's steel back plate is?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 26 May 2014, 13:20:42
    I was wondering about the availability of tenkeypads with red switches.  So far i've found these

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leopold-FC210TP-Mechanical-Tenkeypad-Cherry-MX-Red-Switches-21-Key-PBT-Black-/281342246330
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=435

    Was wondering if there were more options with red switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 26 May 2014, 13:48:16
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 26 May 2014, 13:20:42
    I was wondering about the availability of tenkeypads with red switches.  So far i've found these

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leopold-FC210TP-Mechanical-Tenkeypad-Cherry-MX-Red-Switches-21-Key-PBT-Black-/281342246330
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=435

    Was wondering if there were more options with red switches?

    Filco also offers a numpad, but I can't find one with reds, so apart from custom numpads I don't think there is one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:07:42
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 26 May 2014, 13:20:42
    I was wondering about the availability of tenkeypads with red switches. 

    I think Keycool has some numpads with Reds but I'm not 100% sure. I like the Filco numpad so maybe you can just find one you like and the swap in new switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:43:18
    Just wanted to check if these leds would be a good swap from green on a KBT Pure.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en.)
    or the diffused white if those would look better. 

    Also, is it possible to go from red to purple without changing the diodes on a QFR for the caps lock, win lock, and scroll lock?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:53:34
    Quote from: Badwrench on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:43:18
    Just wanted to check if these leds would be a good swap from green on a KBT Pure.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en.)
    or the diffused white if those would look better. 

    Also, is it possible to go from red to purple without changing the diodes on a QFR for the caps lock, win lock, and scroll lock?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:07:02
    I've never calculated any voltages for my LEDs, I've just done swaps. I haven't had issues so far. But check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0) for some actual information and numbers.

    In my own experience, I haven't had trouble with just putting LEDs into a board. Doesn't mean that I won't hit a problem in the future though. I think your LEDs will be fine and I think your QFR swap will be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 26 May 2014, 15:05:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:53:34
    Quote from: Badwrench on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:43:18
    Just wanted to check if these leds would be a good swap from green on a KBT Pure.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en.)
    or the diffused white if those would look better. 

    Also, is it possible to go from red to purple without changing the diodes on a QFR for the caps lock, win lock, and scroll lock?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:07:02
    I've never calculated any voltages for my LEDs, I've just done swaps. I haven't had issues so far. But check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0) for some actual information and numbers.

    In my own experience, I haven't had trouble with just putting LEDs into a board. Doesn't mean that I won't hit a problem in the future though. I think your LEDs will be fine and I think your QFR swap will be fine.

    Cool, ordering leds now then. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 26 May 2014, 15:10:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:53:34
    Quote from: Badwrench on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:43:18
    Just wanted to check if these leds would be a good swap from green on a KBT Pure.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en.)
    or the diffused white if those would look better. 

    Also, is it possible to go from red to purple without changing the diodes on a QFR for the caps lock, win lock, and scroll lock?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:07:02
    I've never calculated any voltages for my LEDs, I've just done swaps. I haven't had issues so far. But check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0) for some actual information and numbers.

    In my own experience, I haven't had trouble with just putting LEDs into a board. Doesn't mean that I won't hit a problem in the future though. I think your LEDs will be fine and I think your QFR swap will be fine.

    Instead of necro'ing that thread, maybe someone here can give me some info.  My understanding is that the current through the LED determines its brightness.  The LEDs I have are rated for up to 20mA (I think), but what is the minimum current that will still make it light up a reasonable amount.

    Assuming the following is true for my leds (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Rectangle-Blue-Water-Clear-LED-Light-Leds-/320999090146?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abd0967e2&_uhb=1)
    I = (5.05 - 3.2) / resistor
    I currently have 1.13k resistors, so this would give me...
    I = (5.05 - 3.2) / 1131 => I = 1.64mA

    Is that even close to enough current to make the LEDs light up a reasonable amount?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 27 May 2014, 09:54:30
    Quote from: swill on Mon, 26 May 2014, 15:10:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:53:34
    Quote from: Badwrench on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:43:18
    Just wanted to check if these leds would be a good swap from green on a KBT Pure.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en.)
    or the diffused white if those would look better. 

    Also, is it possible to go from red to purple without changing the diodes on a QFR for the caps lock, win lock, and scroll lock?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:07:02
    I've never calculated any voltages for my LEDs, I've just done swaps. I haven't had issues so far. But check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0) for some actual information and numbers.

    In my own experience, I haven't had trouble with just putting LEDs into a board. Doesn't mean that I won't hit a problem in the future though. I think your LEDs will be fine and I think your QFR swap will be fine.

    Instead of necro'ing that thread, maybe someone here can give me some info.  My understanding is that the current through the LED determines its brightness.  The LEDs I have are rated for up to 20mA (I think), but what is the minimum current that will still make it light up a reasonable amount.

    Assuming the following is true for my leds (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Rectangle-Blue-Water-Clear-LED-Light-Leds-/320999090146?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abd0967e2&_uhb=1)
    I = (5.05 - 3.2) / resistor
    I currently have 1.13k resistors, so this would give me...
    I = (5.05 - 3.2) / 1131 => I = 1.64mA

    Is that even close to enough current to make the LEDs light up a reasonable amount?

    well.

    It depends on what you mean by "reasonable".
    Taking an LED with similar characteristics (but with a datasheet)
    http://www.mouser.com/catalog/specsheets/cree.C503B%20BAS%20BAN%20BCS%20BCN%20GAS%20GAN%20GCS%20GCN%201094%5B1%5D.pdf
    you see that brightness is pretty close to linear with current.

    This graph (for a different brand) shows the same thing, but I think the double log scale is easier to read:
    http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/315/LNJ998CKCDA_E-255675.pdf (perhaps not a good comparison, they are listed as 400 mcd, which is pretty dim)

    So 1.64 is 8% of 20, so you'll get 8% of the light out from it. If it's rated for 10,000 mcd (at 20 mA), then you'll get 800 mcd out (at 1.64 mA).

    To compare, some LEDs are only "supposed" to put out about 400 mcd normally, so they'll certainly be visible. Weather or not that's a reasonable level is up to you. Looking at the numbers, I think it'll be fine, though you'll have more current with a lower Vf (red or amber) or lower resistance.

    Another thing to keep in mind: if you are flowing 1.64 mA through each LED, you can only have a certain amount of LEDs on the board before there's too much current for the USB to support. When I was doing LED resistance calculations for sprit, I remember that 1-2 mA (certainly less than 5) was about all you could get before you ran into the USB power requirement.

    Of course, Looking at it yourself is the only way to know for sure, but I think it'll be more than adequate.

    Hope this helps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 27 May 2014, 10:07:42
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 27 May 2014, 09:54:30
    Quote from: swill on Mon, 26 May 2014, 15:10:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:53:34
    Quote from: Badwrench on Mon, 26 May 2014, 14:43:18
    Just wanted to check if these leds would be a good swap from green on a KBT Pure.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320999089508&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en.)
    or the diffused white if those would look better. 

    Also, is it possible to go from red to purple without changing the diodes on a QFR for the caps lock, win lock, and scroll lock?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 May 2014, 21:07:02
    I've never calculated any voltages for my LEDs, I've just done swaps. I haven't had issues so far. But check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0) for some actual information and numbers.

    In my own experience, I haven't had trouble with just putting LEDs into a board. Doesn't mean that I won't hit a problem in the future though. I think your LEDs will be fine and I think your QFR swap will be fine.

    Instead of necro'ing that thread, maybe someone here can give me some info.  My understanding is that the current through the LED determines its brightness.  The LEDs I have are rated for up to 20mA (I think), but what is the minimum current that will still make it light up a reasonable amount.

    Assuming the following is true for my leds (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Rectangle-Blue-Water-Clear-LED-Light-Leds-/320999090146?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abd0967e2&_uhb=1)
    I = (5.05 - 3.2) / resistor
    I currently have 1.13k resistors, so this would give me...
    I = (5.05 - 3.2) / 1131 => I = 1.64mA

    Is that even close to enough current to make the LEDs light up a reasonable amount?

    well.

    It depends on what you mean by "reasonable".
    Taking an LED with similar characteristics (but with a datasheet)
    http://www.mouser.com/catalog/specsheets/cree.C503B%20BAS%20BAN%20BCS%20BCN%20GAS%20GAN%20GCS%20GCN%201094%5B1%5D.pdf
    you see that brightness is pretty close to linear with current.

    This graph (for a different brand) shows the same thing, but I think the double log scale is easier to read:
    http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/315/LNJ998CKCDA_E-255675.pdf (perhaps not a good comparison, they are listed as 400 mcd, which is pretty dim)

    So 1.64 is 8% of 20, so you'll get 8% of the light out from it. If it's rated for 10,000 mcd (at 20 mA), then you'll get 800 mcd out (at 1.64 mA).

    To compare, some LEDs are only "supposed" to put out about 400 mcd normally, so they'll certainly be visible. Weather or not that's a reasonable level is up to you. Looking at the numbers, I think it'll be fine, though you'll have more current with a lower Vf (red or amber) or lower resistance.

    Another thing to keep in mind: if you are flowing 1.64 mA through each LED, you can only have a certain amount of LEDs on the board before there's too much current for the USB to support. When I was doing LED resistance calculations for sprit, I remember that 1-2 mA (certainly less than 5) was about all you could get before you ran into the USB power requirement.

    Of course, Looking at it yourself is the only way to know for sure, but I think it'll be more than adequate.

    Hope this helps.

    This is a great response. Thank you very much, I appreciate it.

    I will be doing a full sprit board of led's on both a 60% and a 75%, so this is really good information.

    These resistors should be perfect then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 27 May 2014, 11:10:57
    If you are using o-rings, is the thickness of the keycaps irrelevant?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 May 2014, 11:14:43
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 27 May 2014, 11:10:57
    If you are using o-rings, is the thickness of the keycaps irrelevant?

    Yes, I think swill's post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53174.msg1186392#msg1186392) has a good explanation on this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 27 May 2014, 11:44:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 May 2014, 11:14:43
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 27 May 2014, 11:10:57
    If you are using o-rings, is the thickness of the keycaps irrelevant?

    Yes, I think swill's post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53174.msg1186392#msg1186392) has a good explanation on this.

    The keycap profile makes the most difference.  You need very different o-rings for Cherry vs OEM profile keycaps.  I have not found the thickness of the keycap to play a major role (unless the keycaps are missing the cross braces at the bottom of the stem).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 27 May 2014, 12:52:30
    What's the best way t ship a Realforce box(with board) internationally? What I mean is do I use an extra box, fill it with Polystyrene balls(?), then tape it up like a maniac, or just like how it came to me, a dense foam sheet wrapped around the box(laterally), the whole thing packed in that postal plastic bag thing?

    How do I maximize protection while minimizing packaging costs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 May 2014, 12:55:25
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 27 May 2014, 12:52:30
    What's the best way t ship a Realforce box(with board) internationally? What I mean is do I use an extra box, fill it with Polystyrene balls(?), then tape it up like a maniac, or just like how it came to me, a dense foam sheet wrapped around the box(laterally), the whole thing packed in that postal plastic bag thing?

    How do I maximize protection while minimizing packaging costs?

    My standard packaging method is to wrap the keyboard in a nice thick layer of bubble wrap. Then put the keyboard in a sturdy box then stuff the remaining space with newspaper.

    If your box is already used and a bit beat up, find a new box. In the US, USPS has flat rate board game boxes that work well for full size boards or if you want to go heavy on the protection (as I did with the 6019284s).

    Edit: I also *always* tape all the openings to the boxes. Just added piece of mind and security.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 27 May 2014, 12:57:54
    Great! Thanks for the tip!
     ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kakakowie on Wed, 28 May 2014, 06:01:35
    I've noticed a couple of 60% custom PCBs such as GH60, Facew, GON.
    All of them seem to have full customisation options.

    So is there any real difference between all of them?
    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 28 May 2014, 06:50:26
    Quote from: kakakowie on Wed, 28 May 2014, 06:01:35
    I've noticed a couple of 60% custom PCBs such as GH60, Facew, GON.
    All of them seem to have full customisation options.

    So is there any real difference between all of them?
    Thanks.

    Cases that go with them. And GH60 currently doesn't have LED support. Think the firmware and controller are different too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 28 May 2014, 07:15:36
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 27 May 2014, 12:52:30
    What's the best way t ship a Realforce box(with board) internationally? What I mean is do I use an extra box, fill it with Polystyrene balls(?), then tape it up like a maniac, or just like how it came to me, a dense foam sheet wrapped around the box(laterally), the whole thing packed in that postal plastic bag thing?

    How do I maximize protection while minimizing packaging costs?

    I generally agree with Capt BadAss, but I must add that "the best" way to ship is to double-box with styrofoam peanuts all around the inner box.

    Unfortunately, the carriers charge for both weight and volume, and double-boxing greatly increases the volume, more so than the weight.

    And also, keyboards really are generally pretty sturdy, compared to things like antiques and glassware.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Wed, 28 May 2014, 20:43:48
    What spring weight does 62g correspond to when measuring to actuation point? (50 cN? 45?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 28 May 2014, 20:47:20
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 28 May 2014, 20:43:48
    What spring weight does 62g correspond to when measuring to actuation point? (50 cN? 45?)

    http://www.unitconversion.org/force/centinewtons-to-gram-forces-conversion.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 May 2014, 21:35:05
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 28 May 2014, 20:43:48
    What spring weight does 62g correspond to when measuring to actuation point? (50 cN? 45?)

    It would be somewhere between 45-50cN, probably around 47.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Wed, 28 May 2014, 21:57:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 May 2014, 21:35:05
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 28 May 2014, 20:43:48
    What spring weight does 62g correspond to when measuring to actuation point? (50 cN? 45?)

    It would be somewhere between 45-50cN, probably around 47.

    Ah, so one could swap with clear springs with brown or blue ones for something that is approximately like an ergo clear?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 May 2014, 22:16:06
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 28 May 2014, 21:57:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 May 2014, 21:35:05
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 28 May 2014, 20:43:48
    What spring weight does 62g correspond to when measuring to actuation point? (50 cN? 45?)

    It would be somewhere between 45-50cN, probably around 47.

    Ah, so one could swap with clear springs with brown or blue ones for something that is approximately like an ergo clear?

    Thanks!

    Before Korean springs were generally available, that is exactly how we used to make ergo clears. In fact, that's pretty much the definition of an "ergo" clear...a clear stem with a spring from a red/brown/blue switch. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 29 May 2014, 00:09:15
    How do I take out stabilizers from legends? I tried this video and I made a scratch in my QFR (SadPandaFace)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 29 May 2014, 03:33:10
    Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 03 April 2014, 03:53:11
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Thu, 03 April 2014, 02:27:38
    Is it possible to make a one hand ergodox. And for it to be the left hand? I'm thinking of an orbweaver alternative.

    I made one a few weeks ago. It works great with soarer's firmware. I've been meaning to post pictures sometime.


    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 03 April 2014, 00:33:07
    Quote from: vovkab on Wed, 02 April 2014, 23:58:43
    Does anyone know where I can find keycaps set from official ergodox keyboard image?

    Show Image
    (http://ergodox.org/Images/ErgoDox_001.png)


    Welcome to Geekhack!

    Those look almost like DSA.

    You might try the Granite GB: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56354.0

    The keyset in that render was never actually produced, though the model is closest to SP's DSA

    Exactly how did you manage that?

    I've been meaning to build a flipped ergodox, but nobody seems to provide details on how it is done.

    I really wanna ask for a loose guide, so that at least I know how differently I have to do things from the Massdrop guide, since it is one of the most detailed ones around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 04:43:52
    Does any of you sometime have to use multiple o-rings on a key to silence out the clack? I'm asking because I got my SP doubleshots and in order to silence the backspace and spacebar i had to put on 3 o-rings. This was not a problem with my OEM Filco keycaps (I have a MJ2).  Is it because the keycaps are poorly built?  I ended just living with the clack instead of shortening the travel distance so much.

    I use these o-rings: http://www.keyboardco.com/product/o-ring-switch-dampeners-for-filco-keyboards.asp

    Anyone have any experience with them? Does anyone know what durometer they have?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 29 May 2014, 06:36:00
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 04:43:52
    Does any of you sometime have to use multiple o-rings on a key to silence out the clack? I'm asking because I got my SP doubleshots and in order to silence the backspace and spacebar i had to put on 3 o-rings. This was not a problem with my OEM Filco keycaps (I have a MJ2).  Is it because the keycaps are poorly built?  I ended just living with the clack instead of shortening the travel distance so much.

    The issue are probably the stabilizers making noise. Keycaps will also make a noise when they go back up which you can't dampen with O-rings.

    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 29 May 2014, 00:09:15
    How do I take out stabilizers from legends? I tried this video and I made a scratch in my QFR (SadPandaFace)

    I think it's quite well shown in that video. At which part did you scratch your board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 29 May 2014, 06:40:41
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 04:43:52
    Does any of you sometime have to use multiple o-rings on a key to silence out the clack? I'm asking because I got my SP doubleshots and in order to silence the backspace and spacebar i had to put on 3 o-rings. This was not a problem with my OEM Filco keycaps (I have a MJ2).  Is it because the keycaps are poorly built?  I ended just living with the clack instead of shortening the travel distance so much.

    I use these o-rings: http://www.keyboardco.com/product/o-ring-switch-dampeners-for-filco-keyboards.asp

    Anyone have any experience with them? Does anyone know what durometer they have?

    Check and see if those keys have crossbars like the rest of the keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 07:55:17
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 04:43:52
    1) Does any of you sometime have to use multiple o-rings on a key to silence out the clack? I'm asking because I got my SP doubleshots and in order to silence the backspace and spacebar i had to put on 3 o-rings.

    2) I use these o-rings: http://www.keyboardco.com/product/o-ring-switch-dampeners-for-filco-keyboards.asp Anyone have any experience with them?

    3) Does anyone know what durometer they have?

    1) There are people who use multiple o-rings on their keyboards. Part of the reason you're having issues is because SP caps are really thin. The spacebar might sound different if you use different keycaps. You can also put some drawer liner in between your case and PCB to dampen some sounds. And you can lube the spacebar stabilizers as well as the backspace ones.

    2) I imagine that the WASD red o-rings are similar but I've never used them

    3) I don't know this.

    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 29 May 2014, 00:09:15
    How do I take out stabilizers from legends? I tried this video and I made a scratch in my QFR (SadPandaFace)


    That video explains how to remove them very well. They're just friction fit into the plate so just pull them out with your hands. Or gently remove them with pliers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 May 2014, 08:03:29
    Sound factors: The type of stabilizer also gives different support, and thus the sound may change. Also if the board has a plate may affect the final sound. I think the final sound relates more with the vibration of the entire assembly, including, case, plate - if included -, cap material, and profile, and in some minor degree, the switch type.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 08:05:39
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 May 2014, 08:03:29
    Sound factors: The type of stabilizer also gives different support, and thus the sound may change. Also if the board has a plate may affect the final sound. I think the final sound relates more with the vibration of the entire assembly, including, case, plate - if included -, cap material, and profile, and in some minor degree, the switch type.

    Other things include what your keyboard is sitting on, what material your desk is made out of, and personal typing style. I always bottom out when I type so that would sound different from someone who doesn't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 29 May 2014, 08:07:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 08:05:39
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 May 2014, 08:03:29
    Sound factors: The type of stabilizer also gives different support, and thus the sound may change. Also if the board has a plate may affect the final sound. I think the final sound relates more with the vibration of the entire assembly, including, case, plate - if included -, cap material, and profile, and in some minor degree, the switch type.

    Other things include what your keyboard is sitting on, what material your desk is made out of, and personal typing style. I always bottom out when I type so that would sound different from someone who doesn't.

    Also, case material, amount of mass in the case, and I would think plate material will have an affect as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 29 May 2014, 09:33:12
    How's the build quality and QC of duck kits in general?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 09:35:18
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 29 May 2014, 09:33:12
    How's the build quality and QC of duck kits in general?

    I've seen....two or three Ducky Mini V1's in person now? They looked great and I didn't see anything bad in terms of QC or shipping issues on Geekhack. Build quality is really really nice on the V1s. That case with the Poker suits on the back is one of my favorite cases I've seen, period. I suspect the V2 is just as nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 10:41:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 29 May 2014, 06:36:00
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 04:43:52
    Does any of you sometime have to use multiple o-rings on a key to silence out the clack? I'm asking because I got my SP doubleshots and in order to silence the backspace and spacebar i had to put on 3 o-rings. This was not a problem with my OEM Filco keycaps (I have a MJ2).  Is it because the keycaps are poorly built?  I ended just living with the clack instead of shortening the travel distance so much.

    The issue are probably the stabilizers making noise. Keycaps will also make a noise when they go back up which you can't dampen with O-rings.



    Nope there is also this issue with some other keys like number 4, 6, and 8
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 10:43:06
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 10:41:03
    Nope there is also this issue with some other keys like number 4, 6, and 8

    What switches are on your MJ2? In addition to my post above replying to you, switch type will change things.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Thu, 29 May 2014, 10:43:38
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 10:41:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 29 May 2014, 06:36:00
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 04:43:52
    Does any of you sometime have to use multiple o-rings on a key to silence out the clack? I'm asking because I got my SP doubleshots and in order to silence the backspace and spacebar i had to put on 3 o-rings. This was not a problem with my OEM Filco keycaps (I have a MJ2).  Is it because the keycaps are poorly built?  I ended just living with the clack instead of shortening the travel distance so much.

    The issue are probably the stabilizers making noise. Keycaps will also make a noise when they go back up which you can't dampen with O-rings.



    Nope there is also this issue with some other keys like number 4, 6, and 8

    Are you using SP's DCS profile keycaps? Those keycaps don't have a cross-support on the stem, so your oring probably got pushed too far back to even help reduce noise. That's why you have to place 2-3 for you to notice a change.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 10:44:43
    Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 29 May 2014, 10:43:38
    Are you using SP's DCS profile keycaps? Those keycaps don't have a cross-support on the stem, so your oring probably got pushed too far back to even help reduce noise. That's why you have to place 2-3 for you to notice a change.

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 29 May 2014, 04:43:52
    I'm asking because I got my SP doubleshots and in order to silence the backspace and spacebar i had to put on 3 o-rings.

    Yes he's using SP caps. I had the same problem when writing my review. I had to redo the review because of this.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 29 May 2014, 11:44:34


    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 29 May 2014, 00:09:15
    How do I take out stabilizers from legends? I tried this video and I made a scratch in my QFR (SadPandaFace)


    That video explains how to remove them very well. They're just friction fit into the plate so just pull them out with your hands. Or gently remove them with pliers.
    [/quote]

    When I used the flathead screw driver it fit perfectly in but it did not easily pull out. Pliers is probably what I will try next. when I pulled gently down the stabilizer didn't pop out and I had to pull down more forcefully. The screw driver popped out and I proceeded to grind into the plate about 1 inch. The video made it seem like the stabilizers are barely fitted on but mine are very snug and very hard to pop out. I suspect this is caused from not lubing them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 11:54:12
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 29 May 2014, 11:44:34
    When I used the flathead screw driver it fit perfectly in but it did not easily pull out. Pliers is probably what I will try next. when I pulled gently down the stabilizer didn't pop out and I had to pull down more forcefully. The screw driver popped out and I proceeded to grind into the plate about 1 inch. The video made it seem like the stabilizers are barely fitted on but mine are very snug and very hard to pop out. I suspect this is caused from not lubing them?

    They're supposed to be tight in there. It takes me a little force to remove them. I wouldn't have used a screwdriver for that exact reason.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:48:19
    This might be a stupid question, but I figured I would check here first. 

    So many people use ABS caps and the main complaint with them is that they will 'shine' after extended use.  I am guessing this shine is probably from the oils in our hands permeating the ABS plastic (but that is totally a guess).

    Has anyone been able to 'unshine' ABS caps once they have started to shine?  Maybe washing them in water with dish soap?  Maybe lightly sanding with like 1000 grit sandpaper?  Has anyone been successful at removing shine?

    If you haven't been successful but have tried stuff, that is interesting too because it is good data if people want to try ideas...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:52:35
    I've seen mention of shotpeening them to recreate the roughness. I don't know if it's the oils so much as it is the rubbing and touching of the softer material that eventually wears away that roughness, and leading to a more smooth surface that happens to be shiny.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:54:07
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:48:19
    So many people use ABS caps and the main complaint with them is that they will 'shine' after extended use.  I am guessing this shine is probably from the oils in our hands permeating the ABS plastic (but that is totally a guess).

    Has anyone been able to 'unshine' ABS caps once they have started to shine?  Maybe washing them in water with dish soap?  Maybe lightly sanding with like 1000 grit sandpaper?  Has anyone been successful at removing shine?

    Yes, I believe the shine is from oils in your hand getting into the ABS plastic. I typically clean my caps with denture tabs or dishwashing soap. Neither seems to remove the shine. I've never tried otherwise to remove shine.

    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:52:35
    I've seen mention of shotpeening them to recreate the roughness. I don't know if it's the oils so much as it is the rubbing and touching of the softer material that eventually wears away that roughness, and leading to a more smooth surface that happens to be shiny.

    Dunno if you'd want to shotpeen keycaps. I'm not sure they'd handle the thermal stresses. Maybe sandblasting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:55:50
    Maybe sandblasting was what I saw.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:58:34
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:55:50
    Maybe sandblasting was what I saw.

    Were you thinking of this sandblasting thing (http://imgur.com/a/3xreN) from ripster? As soon as you said shotpeening, I thought of that imgur album.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:59:59
    You can try using a magic eraser to get rid of shine: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20243.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 13:01:05
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:59:59
    You can try using a magic eraser to get rid of shine: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20243.0

    I forgot about that....I've gotta try that one day on my WoB Cherry caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 29 May 2014, 13:56:46
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 29 May 2014, 12:59:59
    You can try using a magic eraser to get rid of shine: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20243.0

    NICE!!!  That seemed to work pretty well.  I think thats the best option I have seen so far.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:36:08
    So, it's my birthday next week and guess what I'm asking my girl to get me!?

    You guessed it, a new keyboard.

    Now, I recently picked up the FC660C and if you've read my threads/posts, I tried to mod the thing because I LOVE THE SWITCH, but I want it to be silenced badly. Unfortunately, even ironing landing pads made my sensitive fingers feel the difference.

    This leads me to asking for a HHKB Type-S. The only thing is, I love the keycaps, but wish the base was black. My question is: has anyone tried having the case painted or did it themselves? I wouldn't mind it if in the future it wasn't super hard to have it painted black, or maybe something original, with a nice finish. I don't exactly want to ruin a $375 keyboard either.

    Thoughts?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:38:02
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:36:08
    So, it's my birthday next week and guess what I'm asking my girl to get me!?

    You guessed it, a new keyboard.

    Now, I recently picked up the FC660C and if you've read my threads/posts, I tried to mod the thing because I LOVE THE SWITCH, but I want it to be silenced badly. Unfortunately, even ironing landing pads made my sensitive fingers feel the difference.

    This leads me to asking for a HHKB Type-S. The only thing is, I love the keycaps, but wish the base was black. My question is: has anyone tried having the case painted or did it themselves? I wouldn't mind it if in the future it wasn't super hard to have it painted black, or maybe something original, with a nice finish. I don't exactly want to ruin a $375 keyboard either.

    Buy a Type-S and a regular black HHKB, swap cases, sell the non-Type-S-in-Type-S-white-case one. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:38:50
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:38:02
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:36:08
    So, it's my birthday next week and guess what I'm asking my girl to get me!?

    You guessed it, a new keyboard.

    Now, I recently picked up the FC660C and if you've read my threads/posts, I tried to mod the thing because I LOVE THE SWITCH, but I want it to be silenced badly. Unfortunately, even ironing landing pads made my sensitive fingers feel the difference.

    This leads me to asking for a HHKB Type-S. The only thing is, I love the keycaps, but wish the base was black. My question is: has anyone tried having the case painted or did it themselves? I wouldn't mind it if in the future it wasn't super hard to have it painted black, or maybe something original, with a nice finish. I don't exactly want to ruin a $375 keyboard either.

    Buy a Type-S and a regular black HHKB, swap cases, sell the non-Type-S-in-Type-S-white-case one. :thumb:

    Isn't the Type-S case slightly bigger?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:45:18
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:36:08
    I'm asking for a HHKB Type-S.  My question is: has anyone tried having the case painted or did it themselves?

    It's plastic isn't it? I think you can paint it. I think because of the price point, you don't see many people trying to paint it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 29 May 2014, 18:05:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:45:18
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 29 May 2014, 17:36:08
    I'm asking for a HHKB Type-S.  My question is: has anyone tried having the case painted or did it themselves?

    It's plastic isn't it? I think you can paint it. I think because of the price point, you don't see many people trying to paint it.

    Lol, that's what I'm thinking. I wonder how much it would cost to bring it to an automotive place and have them professionally do it. Maybe I'll get it powder coated or some wild ish.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 29 May 2014, 18:08:37
    Why not get a black Pro 2 and a Type-S and swap the plungers. Then you could always sell the white "non-Type-S" haha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: juguerre on Fri, 30 May 2014, 01:08:07
    Because I have a thin desk at my home workspace I get a "clock-clock"  instead of "click - click" from my kb. I think it's due to some resonate think. This is not happening when I  type with the kb on my lap. So,  which could be the best cheap solution for that? A mouse pad or something like that?
    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 30 May 2014, 01:10:55
    Quote from: juguerre on Fri, 30 May 2014, 01:08:07
    Because I have a thin desk at my home workspace I get a "clock-clock"  instead of "click - click" from my kb. I think it's due to some resonate think. This is not happening when I  type with the kb on my lap. So,  which could be the best cheap solution for that? A mouse pad or something like that?
    Thanks!


    I use some drawer liner (http://www.empind.com.au/shop/category/grip-protectors---table-shelf-boot-shelf-drawer-boot-liners?gclid=CjgKEAjwtZucBRD77aiiq_v4xnASJABkAg8JCl2p0GXNOpGSec9wwQnNc9g0uhcRiJKIIwKWUzLKLvD_BwE) under mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 30 May 2014, 02:32:50
    Quote from: juguerre on Fri, 30 May 2014, 01:08:07
    Because I have a thin desk at my home workspace I get a "clock-clock"  instead of "click - click" from my kb. I think it's due to some resonate think. This is not happening when I  type with the kb on my lap. So,  which could be the best cheap solution for that? A mouse pad or something like that?
    Thanks!

    Drawer liner or a small towel are both popular choices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 30 May 2014, 07:00:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 30 May 2014, 02:32:50

    Drawer liner or a small towel are both popular choices.


    For people who don't want to buy my EPDM mats.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 30 May 2014, 10:20:13
    Three questions:
    1. Can you remove plate mounted Cherry stabs by desoldering just the one switch in the middle?
    2. I assume that the sliders of plate and PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers are identical. Is this correct?
    3. Does clipping stabilizers affect the feel of Cherry plate mounted stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 30 May 2014, 10:23:01
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 30 May 2014, 10:20:13
    Three questions:
    1. Can you remove plate mounted Cherry stabs by desoldering just the one switch in the middle?
    2. I assume that the sliders of plate and PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers are identical. Is this correct?
    3. Does clipping stabilizers affect the feel of Cherry plate mounted stabs?

    1.  If there is a slot in the plate connecting all three then yes, if not no.

    2.  Yes.

    3.  Yes, in the same way as clipping PCB mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 30 May 2014, 10:28:37
    Thanks for the quick reply!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 30 May 2014, 10:30:53
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 30 May 2014, 10:28:37
    Thanks for the quick reply!

    Not a problem.  Though there might still be a difference between plate and pcb mount cherry stabs just due to the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:36:39
    Thanks for answers on the o-rings sp keycaps issue.  I have blue switches to clarify.  So as I understand it it's basically impossible to use o-rings on sp keycaps? So my question is then, are  soft landing pads compatible with sp keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:40:24
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:36:39
    Thanks for answers on the o-rings sp keycaps issue.  I have blue switches to clarify.  So as I understand it it's basically impossible to use o-rings on sp keycaps? So my question is then, are  soft landing pads compatible with sp keycaps?

    So how blue switches work, you're already going to have a louder switch to begin with. It's not "impossible", you'll just need to stack more o-rings to have it work, as you've already figured out. Soft landing pads have the same issue with the SP keycaps. You can also try the myriad of suggestions that were posted earlier. I highly suggest you put drawer liner in your keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:48:04
    So is the right shift on the Leopold FC660M the same size as the right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:57:50
    When do you need to use a ferrite bead when making a DIY cable?

    Cause looking at some of our artisans making their own DIY cables, how come they don't need a ferrite bead?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 May 2014, 17:19:31
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:48:04
    So is the right shift on the Leopold FC660M the same size as the right?

    Is the right shift same as the right shift? Yes  :))
    Is the right shift same as the left shift? No. According to eyesmiles and rjrich (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44310.0), you'll need two 2.25x shift keys.

    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:57:50
    When do you need to use a ferrite bead when making a DIY cable?

    Cause looking at some of our artisans making their own DIY cables, how come they don't need a ferrite bead?

    I believe that it's to help with EMF interference. But I don't think there's a lot of EMF interference in cables. It's just there for overkill. So when people make them, it's nice to have but not 100% necessary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 30 May 2014, 17:26:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 May 2014, 17:19:31
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:57:50
    When do you need to use a ferrite bead when making a DIY cable?
    I believe that it's to help with EMF interference. But I don't think there's a lot of EMF interference in cables. It's just there for overkill. So when people make them, it's nice to have but not 100% necessary.

    I have wondered about this a lot. They seemed very common a decade or 2 ago, and quite rare now.

    Would you consider the need to be equal in just about any cable, or would some keyboards/cables/connectors be more prone to accumulate capacitance or some other property than others?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 May 2014, 17:31:40
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 30 May 2014, 17:26:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 May 2014, 17:19:31
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:57:50
    When do you need to use a ferrite bead when making a DIY cable?
    I believe that it's to help with EMF interference. But I don't think there's a lot of EMF interference in cables. It's just there for overkill. So when people make them, it's nice to have but not 100% necessary.

    I have wondered about this a lot. They seemed very common a decade or 2 ago, and quite rare now.

    Would you consider the need to be equal in just about any cable, or would some keyboards/cables/connectors be more prone to accumulate capacitance or some other property than others?

    I'm definitely not an authority on this but I suspect that like ESD (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58779.msg1345163#msg1345163), EMF is a lesser concern now. But like I said, I'm just assuming. It might be better to ask a cable maker or someone who understands much better such as mkawa or dorkvader.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 30 May 2014, 18:08:10
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:48:04
    So is the right shift on the Leopold FC660M the same size as the right?

    The Leo 660M's right shift is 2.25u, the same size as the left shift key on any standard ANSI keyboard. It takes two shift keys in the same 2.25u size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:18:11
    What is the appeal of OTD boards that justify their celestial prices?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:23:13
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:18:11
    What is the appeal of OTD boards that justify their celestial prices?

    They are the best built customs, the group buys are pretty exclusive to enter and require a certain number of 'points' on OTD to even enter, and even after that, usually no more then 100~+ of each model are made once and never again. the most common 356 is the DGE with about 200 units made. There are two types of 356 minis as well, V1 and V2, V1 came in red, black and gunmetal, and V2 was much more recent and only came in red.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:26:04
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:23:13
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:18:11
    What is the appeal of OTD boards that justify their celestial prices?

    They are the best built customs, the group buys are pretty exclusive to enter and require a certain number of 'points' on OTD to even enter, and even after that, usually no more then 100~+ of each model are made once and never again. the most common 356 is the DGE with about 200 units made. There are two types of 356 minis as well, V1 and V2, V1 came in red, black and gunmetal, and V2 was much more recent and only came in red.
    There's a more recent mini huh? Now I'm interested. What's the going price for a Mini v2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:29:57
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:26:04
    There's a more recent mini huh? Now I'm interested. What's the going price for a Mini v2?

    $400 unassembled, $500-550 for assembled
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:41:30
    I've seen them go higher assembled. Somewhere in the $650 range.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:46:30
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:41:30
    I've seen them go higher assembled. Somewhere in the $650 range.

    Just for an assembled 356mini? Profit on OTD is really, really, really a big NO NO, so super high priced 356 series boards are not seen very often. the reason why the 356 series is the most wanted and most expensive/rare series of keyboards on earth is because once people have them, they literally are not let go of, ever. Geekhack always seems to have users that get clacks/keyboards and just sell them and give them up after a few weeks of use, but most people who actually can get their hands on a 356 board keep them for life.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:51:03
    Oh my, that IS pricey. Welp, better start saving.  ;D

    That being said, what are the other better aluminium 60% cases out there(preferably with brass weights and a cheaper price tag)?

    @Dubsgalore I've seen a 356cl and 356dge go for 12000RMB and 10000RMB respectively in a chinese board forum. The scary part is that the boards were actually sold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:52:46
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:51:03
    Oh my, that IS pricey. Welp, better start saving.  ;D

    That being said, what are the other better aluminium 60% cases out there(preferably with brass weights and a cheaper price tag)?

    @Dubsgalore I've seen a 356cl and 356dge go for 12000RMB and 10000RMB respectively in a chinese board forum. The scary part is that the boards were actually sold.

    If all you want is an aluminum 60% case, maybe the 356 series ain't the easiest option :)) , why not check out mechanicalkeyboards.com? they have $100 aluminum 60% cases there I think.. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:55:06
    Combataran, the 356CL and DGE are BY FAR the most wanted Korean customs. They're considered the absolute best, which is why they sold for such ridiculous prices. 356L and 356N are close.

    The only 356 board that multiple members of GH own is the 356mini. The rest are just too rare, and never really leave OTD members hands. I mean.. Tsangan has a 356N MK2, but that doesn't come near the 356CL/DGE, 356L or 356N.

    More info on the series can be found here : http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/the-korean-custom-keyboards-1-356-series-t255.html?hilit=356CL

    Worth noting there are other, non-356 OTD customs. The 456GT and 360corsa.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:56:58
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:52:46
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:51:03
    Oh my, that IS pricey. Welp, better start saving.  ;D

    That being said, what are the other better aluminium 60% cases out there(preferably with brass weights and a cheaper price tag)?

    @Dubsgalore I've seen a 356cl and 356dge go for 12000RMB and 10000RMB respectively in a chinese board forum. The scary part is that the boards were actually sold.

    If all you want is an aluminum 60% case, maybe the 356 series ain't the easiest option :)) , why not check out mechanicalkeyboards.com? they have $100 aluminum 60% cases there I think.. :)
    All I see are TEX cases for pokers(too low a profile) and those horrible vortex cases. Anything between $170 and $250?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:04:12
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:55:06
    Combataran, the 356CL and DGE are BY FAR the most wanted Korean customs. They're considered the absolute best, which is why they sold for such ridiculous prices. 356L and 356N are close.

    The only 356 board that multiple members of GH own is the 356mini. The rest are just too rare, and never really leave OTD members hands. I mean.. Tsangan has a 356N MK2, but that doesn't come near the 356CL/DGE, 356L or 356N.

    More info on the series can be found here : http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/the-korean-custom-keyboards-1-356-series-t255.html?hilit=356CL

    Worth noting there are other, non-356 OTD customs. The 456GT and 360corsa.

    Few other members here have MK2s, but those members are all active OTD members, so it doesn't really count. The 456 and 360 Series boards can be looked at like triple A series if the 356 series is major leagues
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:07:02
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:56:58
    All I see are TEX cases for pokers(too low a profile) and those horrible vortex cases. Anything between $170 and $250?

    Yeah I don't like the low profile cases either. Duck Poker cases exist..and pop up on kbdmania often, I just sold my LZCE but you see them pop up on GH and kbdmania sometimes, the Duck V2 cases can be used with most 60% pcbs I believe as well, that one may be the best to look out for now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:11:46
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:07:02
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:56:58
    All I see are TEX cases for pokers(too low a profile) and those horrible vortex cases. Anything between $170 and $250?

    Yeah I don't like the low profile cases either. Duck Poker cases exist..and pop up on kbdmania often, I just sold my LZCE but you see them pop up on GH and kbdmania sometimes, the Duck V2 cases can be used with most 60% pcbs I believe as well, that one may be the best to look out for now
    That's the one with the raiser block right? Yeah I've been keeping an eye out for those too but no luck. That, and the 356mini. What about the FMJ and Hammer cases? Do they belong in their own category?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:14:23
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:11:46
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:07:02
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:56:58
    All I see are TEX cases for pokers(too low a profile) and those horrible vortex cases. Anything between $170 and $250?

    Yeah I don't like the low profile cases either. Duck Poker cases exist..and pop up on kbdmania often, I just sold my LZCE but you see them pop up on GH and kbdmania sometimes, the Duck V2 cases can be used with most 60% pcbs I believe as well, that one may be the best to look out for now
    That's the one with the raiser block right? Yeah I've been keeping an eye out for those too but no luck. That, and the 356mini. What about the FMJ and Hammer cases? Do they belong in their own category?

    Nah I forgot about those, those are about in the same price range, $200~

    If you're looking for a 356mini on geekhack, you're are almost definitely not going to find it, you're probably going to have to venture over to kbdmania to find one :P

    and yes the Duck V2 has the raiser block. There was a GB for it a while ago but I think that'd be a great option for you. that or the FMJ/Hammer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:19:45
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:14:23

    Nah I forgot about those, those are about in the same price range, $200~

    If you're looking for a 356mini on geekhack, you're are almost definitely not going to find it, you're probably going to have to venture over to kbdmania to find one :P

    and yes the Duck V2 has the raiser block. There was a GB for it a while ago but I think that'd be a great option for you. that or the FMJ/Hammer
    How tolerant are the kbdmania folks towards foreigners? Chinese forums are one thing, Korean forums are a totally different beast. And what about OTD?

    I think I'll just keep my scopes on the duck mini v2 and the 356mini. Fmj cases look...different, and the Hammer, don't see thosaround anymore. Not since the GH60 days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:26:21
    Sales on OTD market for custom boards will usually say 'will not sell to foreigners'.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 31 May 2014, 12:11:21
    They will proxy to you, though. You just have to find someone to proxy for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 12:59:07
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:26:21
    Sales on OTD market for custom boards will usually say 'will not sell to foreigners'.
    What about kbdmania then?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 13:03:19
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 12:59:07
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:26:21
    Sales on OTD market for custom boards will usually say 'will not sell to foreigners'.
    What about kbdmania then?
    356/456/360 series don't come up on kbdmania often at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 13:30:04
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 13:03:19
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 12:59:07
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 11:26:21
    Sales on OTD market for custom boards will usually say 'will not sell to foreigners'.
    What about kbdmania then?
    356/456/360 series don't come up on kbdmania often at all.
    That sucks major b*lls. Guess I'll go hide in a corner and wait for a duck mini to pop up then. Or a hammer. Or an fmj case. Not the premium edition though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 31 May 2014, 13:38:30
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:18:11
    What is the appeal of OTD boards that justify their celestial prices?

    They're cool and rare...like everything else  :)). I don't know about being "the best" Korean custom but they're certainly very nice. I definitely wouldn't say no to a pink 456GT. I feel like sometimes the OTD boards are put on this pedestal because of rarity when you can get a KMAC or 2TU or GON more easily. And they're *really* nice boards.

    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 31 May 2014, 10:26:04
    What's the going price for a Mini v2?

    Please try not to ask for pricing here. Thanks. I know it was harmless though so no worries. :D

    Should also say there's some really cool info in the last two pages about Korean customs that you don't see everyday ^__^

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:41:25
    best way to clean keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:43:04
    Quote from: Jixr on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:41:25
    best way to clean keycaps?
    Denture cleaning tablets always work well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:43:34
    Quote from: Jixr on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:41:25
    best way to clean keycaps?
    Here's the way I do it.. Get some hot water. Not boiling, but hot enough so that putting your hand in it would be uncomfortable after a few seconds. Put a few denture tablets in there, then put your keycaps in. Stir every 5-10 minutes until the water is cold. Then transfer them to some more hot water and stir it for a few minutes. Then dry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:47:41
    would denture tablets affect anything with keycaps wiht pad printed legends or anything like that?

    I have a mix of abs/pbt with pad printing, dub shots, dye subs, etc. I would just like to get them all cleaned up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:49:29
    Quote from: Jixr on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:47:41
    would denture tablets affect anything with keycaps wiht pad printed legends or anything like that?

    I have a mix of abs/pbt with pad printing, dub shots, dye subs, etc. I would just like to get them all cleaned up.
    It has never effected pad printing for me. I don't know for sure though.

    By the way, I use 2 or 3 tablets for 1 keyset, so you'll want to use a few if your cleaning lots of sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:52:25
    yeah, I just hate when my keyboards start to feel greesey, and I have around 6 or 7 keysets I would like to clean up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sat, 31 May 2014, 15:06:23
    I go with 2 tabs for 1 set its pretty good you don't need more than that. It won't affect the pad printed caps what so ever.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 31 May 2014, 15:35:28
    Quote from: Jixr on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:47:41
    would denture tablets affect anything with keycaps wiht pad printed legends or anything like that?

    I have a mix of abs/pbt with pad printing, dub shots, dye subs, etc. I would just like to get them all cleaned up.

    I've been cleaning all types of caps for over a year with denture tabs with no issues. Think about it, they're meant to clean something that goes in your mouth. It can't be *that* harsh. If you're really that paranoid, you can just wash them with dish soap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Sat, 31 May 2014, 15:43:49
    I'm not worried. I just wanted to make sure. I don't know anything about denture sets or whatever. I'll pick some up next time I'm at the store. I'm getting a new alum case in the mail Monday and want to get things cleaned up so when I put it together it's all ready to go
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 31 May 2014, 15:45:20
    I just don't get all this fancy stuff. I have cleaned thousands of keys squeaky clean without any further work on 99% of them by using a spoonful of powdered laundry detergent (I like Charlie's or 365) in a liter of hot water. 5-20 minutes is plenty of time. Adding half a spoon of Oxi or washing soda probably helps.

    Rinse well about 3 times pouring back and forth between a bowl and a colander, and toss out on a T-shirt to dry for a little while.

    All that other rigamarole is just a big waste of time, money, and energy.

    If you shake the water out of each key and roll them over right-side-up on the T-shirt, the entire affair, including drying, hardly takes half an hour.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 31 May 2014, 15:48:28
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 31 May 2014, 15:45:20
    I just don't get all this fancy stuff. I have cleaned thousands of keys squeaky clean without any further work on 99% of them by using a spoonful of powdered laundry detergent (I like Charlie's or 365) in a liter of hot water. 5-20 minutes is plenty of time. Adding half a spoon of Oxi or washing soda probably helps.

    Rinse well about 3 times pouring back and forth between a bowl and a colander, and toss out on a T-shirt to dry for a little while.

    All that other rigamarole is just a big waste of time, money, and energy.

    If you shake the water out of each key and roll them over right-side-up on the T-shirt, the entire affair, including drying, hardly takes half an hour.

    I don't get powdered laundry detergent. I've never seen it before and I think it's fancy lol. Same thing with Oxi, I don't have Oxi in my home. I know most people have dish soap so I always suggest that in addition to denture tabs. If you have it and it works for you, that's great. I just don't think powdered laundry detergent is commonly used.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 31 May 2014, 16:09:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 31 May 2014, 15:48:28
    I know most people have dish soap so I always suggest that in addition to denture tabs.

    I think that laundry detergent works better than dish soap and certainly rinses easier.

    I gave up that syrupy liquid laundry detergent years ago and never looked back. I think that the powder works better and it is way cheaper. Just make sure that it is dissolving properly.

    Oxi/Biz type products are very helpful cleaning aids, if a bit harsh on fabric. It only takes a little bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 03:42:36
    What size wire is used for key pullers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 01 June 2014, 04:26:59
    I just lubed my stabilizer and now the stabilizer keys feel mushy, is it because I overlubed or is this normal?  I used http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

    And if I overdid it, how long till it will feel good again? Or should i try and clean up the lube?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 01 June 2014, 04:41:17
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sun, 01 June 2014, 04:26:59
    I just lubed my stabilizer and now the stabilizer keys feel mushy, is it because I overlubed or is this normal?  I used http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

    And if I overdid it, how long till it will feel good again? Or should i try and clean up the lube?

    May I know which kind of stabilizers you have?
    I suppose you have Cherry Stabilizers, then maybe you need to use it awhile until it is break-in the high viscosity of Mech lube 1. If you lube it too much, then you may need to use a brush to clean it a bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: maxtortheone on Sun, 01 June 2014, 05:12:56
    Does Unicomp make black keycap sets any more? Can't find them on the site.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 01 June 2014, 05:25:31
    Quote from: maxtortheone on Sun, 01 June 2014, 05:12:56
    Does Unicomp make black keycap sets any more? Can't find them on the site.

    http://pckeyboard.com/page/Buttons/KSET

    Select Black from the dropdown.

    Space bar extra: http://pckeyboard.com/page/Buttons/SB
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: maxtortheone on Sun, 01 June 2014, 05:56:26
    Awesome, thanks!

    Also, does the PC122  (http://pckeyboard.com/page/ProtectiveCovers/CVR)dust cover go well on an IBM Model M 122 key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:14:08
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sun, 01 June 2014, 04:41:17
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sun, 01 June 2014, 04:26:59
    I just lubed my stabilizer and now the stabilizer keys feel mushy, is it because I overlubed or is this normal?  I used http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

    And if I overdid it, how long till it will feel good again? Or should i try and clean up the lube?

    May I know which kind of stabilizers you have?
    I suppose you have Cherry Stabilizers, then maybe you need to use it awhile until it is break-in the high viscosity of Mech lube 1. If you lube it too much, then you may need to use a brush to clean it a bit.

    I have mj2, they have costar stabilizers right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:28:23
    Can someone explain what this means:

    Quote
    其实说到金属键盘，我之前也接触过一些，韩国基友的356mini也给我玩过2个月

    但当时由于没有WIN键，FN层设置不符合我的习惯，所以基本上没有细细品味

    最后导致2个月后，我总共才玩了1个小时不到…… 现在想起来真后悔啊

    而后来的各次KMAC团购、456GT团购，以及基友出售的各种金属键盘

    不是由于价格较贵、就是无WIN键，总之不符合自己的要求，所以没有去购买

    由于我主要还是玩老原厂键盘，当时对金属键盘抱着可有可无的心理

    对我来说，我需要一把86键，兼容原厂101键位RGB，带WIN键，356系列键盘

    但反观所有356系列键盘，貌似从来就没有一款符合我要求的

    而这个时候河马哥，大疯哥的LZ、KMAC系列，深深的感染了我

    这个时候我决定，一定要弄一把接近我要求的金属键盘

    虽然会有不习惯，虽然不会弄到最顶级的，但我可以慢慢去适应……

    最后看准356mini，使用101键位的电路板，虽然不是80%，但满足大部分要求

    其实这一款电路板是在356mini团购完毕后一年才推出的选购版本

    主要区别就是兼容樱桃原厂101键位的RGB键帽，其他功能没有任何区别

    但据说101键位版本的做工稍比104版本要稍微差一些，并且出售的量也够多

    And before anyone says otherwise, yes, this is keyboard related.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:40:17
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:14:08
    I have mj2, they have costar stabilizers right?

    Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:50:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 03:42:36
    What size wire is used for key pullers?

    I have made several from the large size paper clips, but commercial ones have thinner wires. Maybe half the diameter of large paper clip wire. But small paper clips don't work because the wire is so flimsy, although they would fit between keys much better.

    Pullers made from guitar strings used to be pretty popular.

    I did not answer your actual question, sorry, I don't know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:52:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 03:42:36
    What size wire is used for key pullers?

    I have a wire key puller. I will get a caliper on it later today and give you a Guage. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:56:29
    Quote from: maxtortheone on Sun, 01 June 2014, 05:56:26
    Awesome, thanks!

    Also, does the PC122  (http://pckeyboard.com/page/ProtectiveCovers/CVR)dust cover go well on an IBM Model M 122 key?

    I could not get it to show me a photo, but there are at least 3 different case styles of IBM M-122s, and Unicomps may be different, too. If you have a metal badge on the right, it is almost sure NOT to work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: maxtortheone on Sun, 01 June 2014, 09:17:34
    Hmm, I'll just shoot them an e-mail then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 June 2014, 12:30:54
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:28:23
    Can someone explain what this means:

    Quote
    其实说到金属键盘，我之前也接触过一些，韩国基友的356mini也给我玩过2个月

    但当时由于没有WIN键，FN层设置不符合我的习惯，所以基本上没有细细品味

    最后导致2个月后，我总共才玩了1个小时不到…… 现在想起来真后悔啊

    而后来的各次KMAC团购、456GT团购，以及基友出售的各种金属键盘

    不是由于价格较贵、就是无WIN键，总之不符合自己的要求，所以没有去购买

    由于我主要还是玩老原厂键盘，当时对金属键盘抱着可有可无的心理

    对我来说，我需要一把86键，兼容原厂101键位RGB，带WIN键，356系列键盘

    但反观所有356系列键盘，貌似从来就没有一款符合我要求的

    而这个时候河马哥，大疯哥的LZ、KMAC系列，深深的感染了我

    这个时候我决定，一定要弄一把接近我要求的金属键盘

    虽然会有不习惯，虽然不会弄到最顶级的，但我可以慢慢去适应……

    最后看准356mini，使用101键位的电路板，虽然不是80%，但满足大部分要求

    其实这一款电路板是在356mini团购完毕后一年才推出的选购版本

    主要区别就是兼容樱桃原厂101键位的RGB键帽，其他功能没有任何区别

    但据说101键位版本的做工稍比104版本要稍微差一些，并且出售的量也够多

    And before anyone says otherwise, yes, this is keyboard related.

    Basically, 356 mini is best keyboard, and all of the other metal keyboards suck in comparison.

    And what are you doing on the Chinese forums?
    Google translate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:03:19
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 01 June 2014, 12:30:54
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:28:23
    Can someone explain what this means:

    Quote
    其实说到金属键盘，我之前也接触过一些，韩国基友的356mini也给我玩过2个月

    但当时由于没有WIN键，FN层设置不符合我的习惯，所以基本上没有细细品味

    最后导致2个月后，我总共才玩了1个小时不到…… 现在想起来真后悔啊

    而后来的各次KMAC团购、456GT团购，以及基友出售的各种金属键盘

    不是由于价格较贵、就是无WIN键，总之不符合自己的要求，所以没有去购买

    由于我主要还是玩老原厂键盘，当时对金属键盘抱着可有可无的心理

    对我来说，我需要一把86键，兼容原厂101键位RGB，带WIN键，356系列键盘

    但反观所有356系列键盘，貌似从来就没有一款符合我要求的

    而这个时候河马哥，大疯哥的LZ、KMAC系列，深深的感染了我

    这个时候我决定，一定要弄一把接近我要求的金属键盘

    虽然会有不习惯，虽然不会弄到最顶级的，但我可以慢慢去适应……

    最后看准356mini，使用101键位的电路板，虽然不是80%，但满足大部分要求

    其实这一款电路板是在356mini团购完毕后一年才推出的选购版本

    主要区别就是兼容樱桃原厂101键位的RGB键帽，其他功能没有任何区别

    但据说101键位版本的做工稍比104版本要稍微差一些，并且出售的量也够多

    And before anyone says otherwise, yes, this is keyboard related.

    Basically, 356 mini is best keyboard, and all of the other metal keyboards suck in comparison.

    And what are you doing on the Chinese forums?
    Google translate?
    Nah, just checking out some threads. What I wanted to know was the part about "兼容原厂101键位RGB" and "使用101键位的电路板". What does he mean by that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BsTyler on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:31:50
    Hi guys just a quick one i have the http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfireultimate/
    brown switch ,i'm just wondering if the retro keycaps will fit in size?
    http://techkeys.us/collections/keycap-sets/products/retro-set
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:33:49
    Quote from: BsTyler on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:31:50
    Hi guys just a quick one i have the http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfireultimate/
    brown switch ,i'm just wondering if the retro keycaps will fit in size?
    http://techkeys.us/collections/keycap-sets/products/retro-set

    The bottom row won't fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:34:06
    Quote from: BsTyler on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:31:50
    Hi guys just a quick one i have the http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfireultimate/
    brown switch ,i'm just wondering if the retro keycaps will fit in size?
    http://techkeys.us/collections/keycap-sets/products/retro-set
    Everything except for the modifiers. Someone correct me if I'm wrong those are 1.5x with 1x1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BsTyler on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:42:01
    So the Ctrl", "Alt", "win" "Shift and Spacebar" won't fit  :( hmm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:47:24
    Quote from: BsTyler on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:42:01
    So the Ctrl", "Alt", "win" "Shift and Spacebar" won't fit  :( hmm

    No, both shifts would fit. Only the bottom row wouldn't fit, e.g. spacebar, x2 Ctrl, x2 Winkey, Menu and x2 Alt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:49:27
    Quote from: BsTyler on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:42:01
    So the Ctrl", "Alt", "win" "Shift and Spacebar" won't fit  :( hmm
    on the retro set, the modifiers are all 1.25x. on the cm, the alt and ctrls are 1.50x , and the win's and fn are 1x1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:54:02
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:52:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 03:42:36
    What size wire is used for key pullers?

    I have a wire key puller. I will get a caliper on it later today and give you a Guage.

    Thanks swill, actual dimension works better than gauge.  The site I get material from sizes by inch dimension.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BsTyler on Sun, 01 June 2014, 15:02:08
    Thanks @hwood34 and @epzy for quick reply.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 15:18:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 03:42:36
    What size wire is used for key pullers?

    Just measured my TechKeys puller. The diameter I measured with my calipers is .035".

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sun, 01 June 2014, 04:26:59
    I just lubed my stabilizer and now the stabilizer keys feel mushy, is it because I overlubed or is this normal?  I used http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

    And if I overdid it, how long till it will feel good again? Or should i try and clean up the lube?

    You probably overlubed your Costar Stabilizers. Take the keys off, and wipe away some of the lube.

    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:03:19
    Nah, just checking out some threads. What I wanted to know was the part about "兼容原厂101键位RGB" and "使用101键位的电路板". What does he mean by that?

    If I understand correctly, he's basically saying it fits 1.5x Winkeyless RGB keycaps. Google translate gives me this translation:

    Quote
    101 key compatible with the original 101-bit keys using RGB and board

    So he's saying it fits the original WKL RGB sets. 101 is Winkeyless, 104 is with Winkey.

    Quote from: maxtortheone on Sun, 01 June 2014, 09:17:34
    Hmm, I'll just shoot them an e-mail then.

    For most questions Unicomp, it's usually best to email them with questions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 01 June 2014, 16:16:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:54:02
    The site I get material from sizes by inch dimension.

    If you end up finding a really good material, and buying a mile of it, there might be some of us who would gladly pay you a couple of bucks for a foot of it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:07:25
    Is the Apple M0116 any good?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:12:47
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 01 June 2014, 16:16:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:54:02
    The site I get material from sizes by inch dimension.

    If you end up finding a really good material, and buying a mile of it, there might be some of us who would gladly pay you a couple of bucks for a foot of it.

    After you guys see what I have planned I am sure people would be willing to spend a touch more for a completed piece.  They will be truly unique.

    And thanks CPTBadass for that dimension.

    I will get some wire ordered.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:13:42
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:07:25
    Is the Apple M0116 any good?

    If you can find one for £5, i'd say get it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:17:17
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:13:42
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:07:25
    Is the Apple M0116 any good?

    If you can find one for £5, i'd say get it
    Why would I take your advice on alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:19:16
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:17:17
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:13:42
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:07:25
    Is the Apple M0116 any good?

    If you can find one for £5, i'd say get it
    Why would I take your advice on alps?

    Because Sprit has taught me the alps ways :]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:20:42
    Ah, good enough for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:29:22
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:07:25
    Is the Apple M0116 any good?

    I liked the one I owned, I just didn't care for Salmon Alps and sold it. I really like the Apple Alps boards in general though. And the M0116 I bought was a really good price. I think I paid $15-20 shipped from eBay for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:36:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:29:22
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:07:25
    Is the Apple M0116 any good?

    I liked the one I owned, I just didn't care for Salmon Alps and sold it. I really like the Apple Alps boards in general though. And the M0116 I bought was a really good price. I think I paid $15-20 shipped from eBay for it.
    Thanks for the input! :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:37:45
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:36:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:29:22
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:07:25
    Is the Apple M0116 any good?

    I liked the one I owned, I just didn't care for Salmon Alps and sold it. I really like the Apple Alps boards in general though. And the M0116 I bought was a really good price. I think I paid $15-20 shipped from eBay for it.
    Thanks for the input! :thumb:

    Oh I should also say I really liked the layout as well. And you're welcome. I sold it to fohat.digs who may also have some input as well if he seems this :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 01 June 2014, 19:05:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 17:37:45
    I sold it to fohat.digs who may also have some input as well if he sees this.

    I stripped it for the switches and keys. I just can't abide weird layouts, even on an 87 I am constantly reaching for the numpad. Especially numpad Enter, that is my most-used key over there.

    My plan is to transplant switches and keys into a Dell AT101W (with infill from elsewhere, of course) to make something that I can really use with pleasure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 19:48:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 15:18:09
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:03:19
    Nah, just checking out some threads. What I wanted to know was the part about "兼容原厂101键位RGB" and "使用101键位的电路板". What does he mean by that?

    If I understand correctly, he's basically saying it fits 1.5x Winkeyless RGB keycaps. Google translate gives me this translation:

    Quote
    101 key compatible with the original 101-bit keys using RGB and board

    So he's saying it fits the original WKL RGB sets. 101 is Winkeyless, 104 is with Winkey.
    Thanks! So do the other OTD boards like the 456gt or the KMAC/2 support such layouts? Or is it just the 356mini?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:10:43
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 19:48:29
    Thanks! So do the other OTD boards like the 456gt or the KMAC/2 support such layouts? Or is it just the 356mini?

    Most customs come in Winkeyless (WKL) or Winkey layouts. You can pick usually. WKL seems more popular. I didn't read the whole thing you posted. Usually 101 key = ANSI WKL and 104 key = ANSI winkey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:23:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:10:43
    Most customs come in Winkeyless (WKL) or Winkey layouts. You can pick usually. WKL seems more popular. I didn't read the whole thing you posted. Usually 101 key = ANSI WKL and 104 key = ANSI winkey.

    84 = WKL w/ blockers
    86 = WKL w/o blockers
    87 = Winkey

    (for tkl)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:44:27
    I'll make this easier for you cap: http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-460297-1-1.html (http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-460297-1-1.html)

    I just need to know why he chose the 356mini over the other OTD boards(except the 456gt). He has both plus a KMAC 2 but the mini is what I'm interested in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:45:30
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:44:27
    I'll make this easier for you cap: http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-460297-1-1.html (http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-460297-1-1.html)

    I just need to know why he chose the 356mini over the other OTD boards(except the 456gt). He has both plus a KMAC 2 but the mini is what I'm interested in.

    Why am I reading the thread for you? That's not making it easier for me. Here's the thread in through Google Translate (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcwaishe.cn%2Fthread-460297-1-1.html&edit-text=&act=url). Does that help you?

    Edit: yab says in the beginning why he likes the 356 mini. He likes the layout of the 356 mini over the KMAC2.

    Quote
    Because the price is not expensive, is no WIN key, short does not meet their requirements, so did not go to buy

    Since I mainly play the old original keyboard when holding the metal keyboard dispensable psychological

    For me, I need a 86 keys, compatible with the original 101 key bits RGB, with WIN buttons, 356 Series Keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:53:40
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:44:27
    I'll make this easier for you cap: http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-460297-1-1.html (http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-460297-1-1.html)

    I just need to know why he chose the 356mini over the other OTD boards(except the 456gt). He has both plus a KMAC 2 but the mini is what I'm interested in.

    Just an FYI, yab8433408 aka Dragonbro is one of the longest active, most experienced, highest end users for mechanical keyboards in the world, any kustom you can think of he probably has possession of..

    Also, if you're just asking for translations here in this thread, it's probably not the best place honestly
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:03:10
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:53:40
    Just an FYI, yab8433408 aka Dragonbro is one of the longest active, most experienced, highest end users for mechanical keyboards in the world, any kustom you can think of he probably has possession of..

    He's the guy with the insane Cherry switch collection too, I believe.

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:53:40
    Also, if you're just asking for translations here in this thread, it's probably not the best place honestly

    Right, unless there's a person who speaks really good Chinese *and* English and is actively reading this thread, you're not going to get a really accurate answer other than what I can glean from Google Translate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:10:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:03:10
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:53:40
    Just an FYI, yab8433408 aka Dragonbro is one of the longest active, most experienced, highest end users for mechanical keyboards in the world, any kustom you can think of he probably has possession of..
    He's the guy with the insane Cherry switch collection too, I believe.
    ya ya
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/1826)
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/kbc/1808)

    all actually from cherry corp I believe, mx mount and alps mount
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:13:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:03:10
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:53:40
    Just an FYI, yab8433408 aka Dragonbro is one of the longest active, most experienced, highest end users for mechanical keyboards in the world, any kustom you can think of he probably has possession of..

    He's the guy with the insane Cherry switch collection too, I believe.

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 01 June 2014, 20:53:40
    Also, if you're just asking for translations here in this thread, it's probably not the best place honestly

    Right, unless there's a person who speaks really good Chinese *and* English and is actively reading this thread, you're not going to get a really accurate answer other than what I can glean from Google Translate.
    Actually I'm fluent in 5 different languages, including Chinese. Reading the thread wasn't the problem for me, understanding what the terms meant was. Plus, Google Translate can't understand context, so there's that.

    Quote
    Because the price is not expensive, is no WIN key, short does not meet their requirements, so did not go to buy

    Since I mainly play the old original keyboard when holding the metal keyboard dispensable psychological

    For me, I need a 86 keys, compatible with the original 101 key bits RGB, with WIN buttons, 356 Series Keyboard
    This should be:
    Quote
    It's either too expensive, or because it's WKL, they don't satisfy my personal (keyboard)needs, that's why I didn't get them. And since I usually only go for old(?, I'm guessing vintage) cherry boards, it didn't matter whether I had custom aluminium boards or not.  As for me, I just need a 86key board that's able to fit original 101key RGBs, not WKL and from the 356 series. But looking at most of them, none fit the description.[/qoute]

    Wait, did I just answer my own question? What are the RGB sizes for a 101 US standard layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:19:35
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:13:25
    Actually I'm fluent in 5 different languages, including Chinese. Reading the thread wasn't the problem for me, understanding what the terms meant was. Plus, Google Translate can't understand context, so there's that.

    I can't read Chinese so I can't find the terms for you...it would really help if you could just isolate the terms you needed help with them post them instead of having me read a whole thread in a language I can't read and then is ruined with Google Translate.

    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:13:25
    What are the RGB sizes for a 101 US standard layout?

    1.5x
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:22:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 14:54:02
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 01 June 2014, 08:52:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 June 2014, 03:42:36
    What size wire is used for key pullers?

    I have a wire key puller. I will get a caliper on it later today and give you a Guage.

    Thanks swill, actual dimension works better than gauge.  The site I get material from sizes by inch dimension.

    Sorry for the delay.  I got a measurement of .8mm on the wire on my filco puller.  That would be 0.0315" in standard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:34:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:19:35
    I can't read Chinese so I can't find the terms for you...it would really help if you could just isolate the terms you needed help with them post them instead of having me read a whole thread in a language I can't read and then is ruined with Google Translate.

    No worries, I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks for trying.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:37:58
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:34:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 June 2014, 21:19:35
    I can't read Chinese so I can't find the terms for you...it would really help if you could just isolate the terms you needed help with them post them instead of having me read a whole thread in a language I can't read and then is ruined with Google Translate.

    No worries, I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks for trying.  :thumb:

    It's not that I don't want to help you. It's that I literally can't read the language :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 June 2014, 23:41:46
    Can anyone identify this terminal keyboard?

    (http://i.imgur.com/zyDOXY3.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 June 2014, 07:52:00
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 June 2014, 23:41:46
    Can anyone identify this terminal keyboard?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/zyDOXY3.jpg)


    I'll take a wild guess that it's a Honeywell or a IBM beamspring board. I have no substantiation for that guess at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:12:40
    It seems similar to the very old punch-card stations.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:26:14
    I'm with Cpt on this one.  My guess would be Honeywell just due to the sphericals and having all the profiles for a full curve instead of the alphas being the one profile.  That and the narrow "big ass" enter key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:26:31
    I'm pretty sure it's a Zenith terminal of some sort. I just need to identify the specific model. :)

    Probably a Z-100?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:38:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 June 2014, 23:41:46
    Can anyone identify this terminal keyboard?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/zyDOXY3.jpg)


    The keyboard looks identical to this one: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-100-original/DSC01148.JPG
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:39:23
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:38:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 June 2014, 23:41:46
    Can anyone identify this terminal keyboard?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/zyDOXY3.jpg)


    The keyboard looks identical to this one: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-100-original/DSC01148.JPG (http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-100-original/DSC01148.JPG)

    Good catch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:41:16
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:39:23
    Good catch.

    Not exactly the same model though :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:48:08
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:41:16
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:39:23
    Good catch.

    Not exactly the same model though :(

    Help us to see the differences. After a quick inspection it is not clear to me that they are different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:51:44
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:48:08
    Help us to see the differences. After a quick inspection it is not clear to me that they are different.

    Everything above the keyboard is different. On JDs photo the screen is directly attached to the computer and keyboard, on mine it is removable and has a beige-grey border, not a black one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:58:09
    Yes, I think it's quite similar to this one:

    (http://i.imgur.com/KLuaUec.jpg)


    In the image I captured, you can make out the faint Zenith logo at the bottom, so I know it's not a Z-120. Looks like member jacobolus found a Z-100 keyboard on ebay, according to his post here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53507.0), and it has vintage tee Alps switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 02 June 2014, 09:28:31
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 June 2014, 08:58:09
    ...Zenith logo at the bottom, so I know it's not a Z-120...

    What you think is the logo is a reflection from the recessed bezel, the logo is actually above, so it's most likely a Z-120. Here's what I mean:
    [attach=1][attach=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Mon, 02 June 2014, 09:34:52
    I think z-100 was the general term used to capture both zenith 110 and 120 systems - which was basically the same computer, sold as pre-assembled version of some old pc kit. The difference being that 110 was 'low-profile', meaning no internal monitor. z120 is the version (same internals) with the crt built-in, sold as a all in one solution.

    The one in your picture should be a z-120. I'm curious as to how you determined its not a z -120?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 June 2014, 09:56:04
    Quote from: Larken on Mon, 02 June 2014, 09:34:52
    I think z-100 was the general term used to capture both zenith 110 and 120 systems - which was basically the same computer, sold as pre-assembled version of some old pc kit. The difference being that 110 was 'low-profile', meaning no internal monitor. z120 is the version (same internals) with the crt built-in, sold as a all in one solution.

    The one in your picture should be a z-120. I'm curious as to how you determined its not a z -120?


    It most likely is a Z-120, as BlueBär pointed out. What I thought was the Zenith logo at the bottom was just a reflection.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JunkFace on Mon, 02 June 2014, 12:08:28
    I'm looking to buy a 6u spacebar and and stabilizer.  It's got to have the offset stems (not sure if they're all like this).  Anyone know where I can pick one/some up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 02 June 2014, 12:21:05
    Quote from: JunkFace on Mon, 02 June 2014, 12:08:28
    I'm looking to buy a 6u spacebar and and stabilizer.  It's got to have the offset stems (not sure if they're all like this).  Anyone know where I can pick one/some up?

    You can find some in SPs inventory: http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/inventory/spacebar-inventory
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Mon, 02 June 2014, 13:43:49
    Why pink puple Capt?
    I noticed that you do have kinda off a fetiche per pink ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 June 2014, 13:45:14
    Quote from: agodinhost on Mon, 02 June 2014, 13:43:49
    Why pink puple Capt?
    I noticed that you do have kinda off a fetiche per pink ...

    I just like pink and purple. No other reason than that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Mon, 02 June 2014, 13:58:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 June 2014, 13:45:14
    Quote from: agodinhost on Mon, 02 June 2014, 13:43:49
    Why pink puple Capt?
    I noticed that you do have kinda off a fetiche per pink ...

    I just like pink and purple. No other reason than that.
    And the Hellokitty?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 June 2014, 13:59:20
    Quote from: agodinhost on Mon, 02 June 2014, 13:58:38
    And the Hellokitty?

    My love for Hello Kitty is an extension of a running joke within my family.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 02 June 2014, 15:44:53
    Do the Mechanicalkeyboard.com Ergodox cases come with the plate mounts? I'm not sure if that's what you call them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 June 2014, 16:10:27
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 02 June 2014, 15:44:53
    Do the Mechanicalkeyboard.com Ergodox cases come with the plate mounts? I'm not sure if that's what you call them.

    Plate mounted switches or the plate? I'm not sure what you're asking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Mon, 02 June 2014, 23:19:05
    I'm considering a project that will incorporate a 60% PCB. Outside of SPRIT, what's the cheapest/easiest way to get a 60% PCB?

    If it made financial sense, I'd get the PCB and then switches from MK, but off the top of my head, I'm not sure that's reasonable. I think outside of that, I'd have to settle for paying straight up for a Poker.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 03 June 2014, 00:28:42
    Quote from: divito on Mon, 02 June 2014, 23:19:05
    I'm considering a project that will incorporate a 60% PCB. Outside of SPRIT, what's the cheapest/easiest way to get a 60% PCB?

    If it made financial sense, I'd get the PCB and then switches from MK, but off the top of my head, I'm not sure that's reasonable. I think outside of that, I'd have to settle for paying straight up for a Poker.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    Cheapest would probably be the enabler in my signature.  It is a lot more soldering as the PCBs are single switch only.  You would also need a controller and the switches need to be plate mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Tue, 03 June 2014, 21:59:33
    Will the Ducky Shine 3 TKL fit in any custom cases?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 June 2014, 22:06:46
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 03 June 2014, 21:59:33
    Will the Ducky Shine 3 TKL fit in any custom cases?

    Erm...I'm actually not sure about this. AFAIK, I don't think so.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Tue, 03 June 2014, 22:23:14
    On a similar note, does anyone know where I can buy an unassembled custom TKL with aluminum casing currently? (I'm okay with waiting on an ongoing GB, just would like to receive keyboard within a year at most, soon better though).

    Only place I can think of gonskeyboardworks but I'm not completely sold on the exposed switch look, and the only group buy I can think of is Sprit's round 2 but the aluminum casing for that is only the back and sides - in between the arrow keys and alphas and the home/end/pgdown/pgup cluster is just plate, not case.

    Something like a KMAC 2 or Phantom with a metal case would be nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 03 June 2014, 22:41:10
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 03 June 2014, 22:23:14
    On a similar note, does anyone know where I can buy an unassembled custom TKL with aluminum casing currently? (I'm okay with waiting on an ongoing GB, just would like to receive keyboard within a year at most, soon better though).

    Only place I can think of gonskeyboardworks but I'm not completely sold on the exposed switch look, and the only group buy I can think of is Sprit's round 2 but the aluminum casing for that is only the back and sides - in between the arrow keys and alphas and the home/end/pgdown/pgup cluster is just plate, not case.

    Something like a KMAC 2 or Phantom with a metal case would be nice.

    vortex case+phantom
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Tue, 03 June 2014, 23:20:35
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 03 June 2014, 22:41:10
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 03 June 2014, 22:23:14
    On a similar note, does anyone know where I can buy an unassembled custom TKL with aluminum casing currently? (I'm okay with waiting on an ongoing GB, just would like to receive keyboard within a year at most, soon better though).

    Only place I can think of gonskeyboardworks but I'm not completely sold on the exposed switch look, and the only group buy I can think of is Sprit's round 2 but the aluminum casing for that is only the back and sides - in between the arrow keys and alphas and the home/end/pgdown/pgup cluster is just plate, not case.

    Something like a KMAC 2 or Phantom with a metal case would be nice.

    vortex case+phantom

    Vortex case has been out of stock on mk for quite a while  :(

    I don't know of any other suppliers for the case, and I'd rather not buy this on Classifieds (probably not best pricing, a little more risky, and low chance of even finding the case).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 07:29:22
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 03 June 2014, 23:20:35
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 03 June 2014, 22:41:10
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 03 June 2014, 22:23:14
    On a similar note, does anyone know where I can buy an unassembled custom TKL with aluminum casing currently? (I'm okay with waiting on an ongoing GB, just would like to receive keyboard within a year at most, soon better though).

    Only place I can think of gonskeyboardworks but I'm not completely sold on the exposed switch look, and the only group buy I can think of is Sprit's round 2 but the aluminum casing for that is only the back and sides - in between the arrow keys and alphas and the home/end/pgdown/pgup cluster is just plate, not case.

    Something like a KMAC 2 or Phantom with a metal case would be nice.

    vortex case+phantom

    Vortex case has been out of stock on mk for quite a while  :(

    I don't know of any other suppliers for the case, and I'd rather not buy this on Classifieds (probably not best pricing, a little more risky, and low chance of even finding the case).

    I don't know if you'll find what you want anywhere else besides the classifieds. The Phantom PCB will fit any case a Filco fits. I've seen four cases that will fit the phantom but Vortex is the only metal one.

    Quote from: divito on Mon, 02 June 2014, 23:19:05
    I'm considering a project that will incorporate a 60% PCB. Outside of SPRIT, what's the cheapest/easiest way to get a 60% PCB?

    You can try finding an older Poker X or Pure. I think there's some LZ PCBs that would fit your criteria and GON may have some PCBs you can use. If you're really lucky, you can try looking to see if anyone is selling their GH60 Rev A or B PCBs. There are a few out there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 07:58:26
    Quote from: divito on Mon, 02 June 2014, 23:19:05
    I'm considering a project that will incorporate a 60% PCB. Outside of SPRIT, what's the cheapest/easiest way to get a 60% PCB?

    If it made financial sense, I'd get the PCB and then switches from MK, but off the top of my head, I'm not sure that's reasonable. I think outside of that, I'd have to settle for paying straight up for a Poker.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    What is the problem with Sprite's? I am considering to get it, not sure because of the price though. I am not sure if I saw one 60% pcb at massdrop recently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 08:16:32
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 07:58:26
    What is the problem with Sprit's? I am considering to get it, not sure because of the price though. I am not sure if I saw one 60% pcb at massdrop recently.

    I don't think massdrop has had a 60%  PCB recently.

    Sprit's buy is starting to drag on longer and longer, like the GH60 buy. I don't have anything against him, he's a nice guy, just worried about the delivery schedule. I've only seen springs so far from him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:03:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 08:16:32
    Sprit's buy is starting to drag on longer and longer, like the GH60 buy. I don't have anything against him, he's a nice guy, just worried about the delivery schedule. I've only seen springs so far from him.
    Except there have been two rounds in sprits GB. He's already shipping the first round, and plenty of people have received their PCBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:04:34
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:03:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 08:16:32
    Sprit's buy is starting to drag on longer and longer, like the GH60 buy. I don't have anything against him, he's a nice guy, just worried about the delivery schedule. I've only seen springs so far from him.
    Except there have been two rounds in sprits GB. He's already shipping the first round, and plenty of people have received their PCBs.

    I haven't seen anything about shipping so maybe that's why I said that. Usually stuff pops up in the What did you get in the Mail thread and I've not seen anything from sprit's buys besides the springs that I mentioned before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:11:34
    People have definitely received PCBs from sprit. Infiniti is one I can think of off the top of my head, and he got his in April.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:16:42
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:11:34
    People have definitely received PCBs from sprit. Infiniti is one I can think of off the top of my head, and he got his in April.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0

    Hm, I did see that one before. Forgot about it. I've had Ninjadoc tell me that he bought PCBs in Round 1 and has received nothing; no updates or parts. Maybe I'm biased because of this.

    I guess I'll just ignore my skepticism and believe you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:17:59
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:11:34
    People have definitely received PCBs from sprit. Infiniti is one I can think of off the top of my head, and he got his in April.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0)

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56822.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56822.0)

    infiniti

    and

    swill

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58969.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58969.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:18:38
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:11:34
    People have definitely received PCBs from sprit. Infiniti is one I can think of off the top of my head, and he got his in April.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0

    Mine and jdcarpe's PCB's have been shipped from Sprit, and I know Riotonthebay got his a while back as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Wed, 04 June 2014, 10:43:51
    naokira has his FaceW too. My order piggybacked with his. ;)

    jorgenslee also has his FaceW kit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:34:19
    Space bar from a g80 HUBUS, does it have normal stem spacing or funky Cherry spacing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:37:07
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:34:19
    Space bar from a g80 HUBUS, does it have normal stem spacing or funky Cherry spacing?

    I'm not sure, since you didn't give the full model number, but you can reference this DT Wiki article (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:52:12
    Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:53:44
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:52:12
    Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.

    I have a G80-8100 at home. I'll check when I'm home and post a picture. My gut tells me that it's not a standard stem spacing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:55:14
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:52:12
    Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.
    If it's a 6.25 then it should have an off centre middle stem, just like all other Cherry 6.25s..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:56:41
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:55:14
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:52:12
    Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.
    If it's a 6.25 then it should have an off centre middle stem, just like all other Cherry 6.25s..

    Yeah that's exactly my thought process. I've never seen a standard stem spacing on OG Cherry caps. But I'll definitely double check later.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 12:11:07
    Hmm ok, thanks guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 16:07:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 08:16:32
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 07:58:26
    What is the problem with Sprit's? I am considering to get it, not sure because of the price though. I am not sure if I saw one 60% pcb at massdrop recently.

    I don't think massdrop has had a 60%  PCB recently.

    Sprit's buy is starting to drag on longer and longer, like the GH60 buy. I don't have anything against him, he's a nice guy, just worried about the delivery schedule. I've only seen springs so far from him.

    Mm, it makes the offer less interesting. It is a shame, it looks like a nice PCB and plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 18:30:46
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:34:19
    Space bar from a g80 HUBUS, does it have normal stem spacing or funky Cherry spacing?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:56:41
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:55:14
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:52:12
    Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.
    If it's a 6.25 then it should have an off centre middle stem, just like all other Cherry 6.25s..

    Yeah that's exactly my thought process. I've never seen a standard stem spacing on OG Cherry caps. But I'll definitely double check later.

    (http://i.imgur.com/adQOY8e.jpg)

    The answer, according to this G80-8113 spacebar, is no. The stem spacing is *not* standard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:22:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 18:30:46
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:34:19
    Space bar from a g80 HUBUS, does it have normal stem spacing or funky Cherry spacing?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:56:41
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:55:14
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:52:12
    Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.
    If it's a 6.25 then it should have an off centre middle stem, just like all other Cherry 6.25s..

    Yeah that's exactly my thought process. I've never seen a standard stem spacing on OG Cherry caps. But I'll definitely double check later.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/adQOY8e.jpg)


    The answer, according to this G80-8113 spacebar, is no. The stem spacing is *not* standard.

    Could someone elaborate on the reasoning behind non standard stems positions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:23:33
    cherry logic

    I think its something to do with 7x bars and using the same pcbs, sorta like g81 bottom row
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:34:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:23:33
    cherry logic

    I think its something to do with 7x bars and using the same pcbs, sorta like g81 bottom row

    That explanation makes sense, to get a warrant for it someone should compare the PCBs on various models with different space bar's lengths and check the stems positions between them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:35:03
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:34:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:23:33
    cherry logic

    I think its something to do with 7x bars and using the same pcbs, sorta like g81 bottom row

    That explanation makes sense, to get a warrant for it someone should compare the PCBs on various models with different space bar's lengths and check the stems positions between them.

    I did that, some parts match up, some don't. Its so weird
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:35:31
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:22:36
    Could someone elaborate on the reasoning behind non standard stems positions?

    Seems like that was Cherry's "standard". Cherry does what Cherry wants :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:39:05
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 27 May 2014, 12:52:30
    What's the best way t ship a Realforce box(with board) internationally? What I mean is do I use an extra box, fill it with Polystyrene balls(?), then tape it up like a maniac, or just like how it came to me, a dense foam sheet wrapped around the box(laterally), the whole thing packed in that postal plastic bag thing?

    How do I maximize protection while minimizing packaging costs?

    Just wrapping stuff around the box and taping it up like a madman always works for me. It's the Int. tracking that always bends me over the table :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 22:03:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:35:31
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:22:36
    Could someone elaborate on the reasoning behind non standard stems positions?

    Seems like that was Cherry's "standard". Cherry does what Cherry wants :p
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:35:03
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:34:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:23:33
    cherry logic

    I think its something to do with 7x bars and using the same pcbs, sorta like g81 bottom row

    That explanation makes sense, to get a warrant for it someone should compare the PCBs on various models with different space bar's lengths and check the stems positions between them.

    I did that, some parts match up, some don't. Its so weird
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:35:31
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 04 June 2014, 21:22:36
    Could someone elaborate on the reasoning behind non standard stems positions?

    Seems like that was Cherry's "standard". Cherry does what Cherry wants :p

    They certainly do. However I think there should be some sort of cost saving of design practice that make those design decisions sounding.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gustavQ on Thu, 05 June 2014, 02:35:58
    Hey guys.

    Can you please clarify me if the IBM Model M2 is a better Keyboard than the IBM Model M1. I have the opportunity to buy one by 40$, but I do not know if it's worth.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 05 June 2014, 04:48:59
    Quote from: gustavQ on Thu, 05 June 2014, 02:35:58
    Can you please clarify me if the IBM Model M2 is a better Keyboard than the IBM Model M1. I have the opportunity to buy one by 40$, but I do not know if it's worth.

    First off, better is subjective. But many people think the M2 is worse in terms of build quality and it is known for broken capacitors. It is a lot smaller than a Model M though.

    If you buy one make sure it's a buckling spring first as there's a rubberdome version of it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rafen on Thu, 05 June 2014, 07:36:54
    Might be a dumb questions but I want to build a custom board using the phantom PCB. I know I need switches and a case, but I'm not sure about what else is need to complete the build? Is there a thread somewhere on what to get (I coudn't find one) ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 June 2014, 07:38:06
    Quote from: Rafen on Thu, 05 June 2014, 07:36:54
    Might be a dumb questions but I want to build a custom board using the phantom PCB. I know I need switches and a case, but I'm not sure about what else is need to complete the build? Is there a thread somewhere on what to get (I coudn't find one) ?

    Try this instruction guide on DT (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_instruction_guide).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 05 June 2014, 13:17:58
    On Cherry PS2 cables what's the pinout colours? I need to know :

    +5V/VCC
    DATA
    CLK
    GND

    (http://i.imgur.com/OJZ8vHj.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:02:22
    So I am about to pull the trigger on a Type-S since I fell in love with Topre. I am using a proxy.

    The reason why my question is here is because I CANNOT decide whether I should get it with legends or not with legends! Since I am getting a nice discount by using a proxy I am also splurging for a spare set of black blank keys so I can change the FN arrow keys to black. I love the look of it being blank but I am afraid I am not going to learn my way around fast enough. I plan on keeping a printed image of the legends until I memorize everything.

    What do you guys think?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:03:50
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:02:22
    So I am about to pull the trigger on a Type-S since I fell in love with Topre. I am using a proxy. The reason why my question is here is because I CANNOT decide whether I should get it with legends or not with legends!

    I don't like the look of blank caps. I prefer printed caps even though I can touch type. They look better to me. If you like blank, get blank. And it will force you to learn to touch type.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:04:09
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:02:22
    So I am about to pull the trigger on a Type-S since I fell in love with Topre. I am using a proxy.

    The reason why my question is here is because I CANNOT decide whether I should get it with legends or not with legends! Since I am getting a nice discount by using a proxy I am also splurging for a spare set of black blank keys so I can change the FN arrow keys to black. I love the look of it being blank but I am afraid I am not going to learn my way around fast enough. I plan on keeping a printed image of the legends until I memorize everything.

    What do you guys think?
    You'll learn a new layout faster if the keycaps are blank, since you'll be forced to memorise it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:12:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:03:50
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:02:22
    So I am about to pull the trigger on a Type-S since I fell in love with Topre. I am using a proxy. The reason why my question is here is because I CANNOT decide whether I should get it with legends or not with legends!

    I don't like the look of blank caps. I prefer printed caps even though I can touch type. They look better to me. If you like blank, get blank. And it will force you to learn to touch type.

    I like the look of legends as well. I even like the legends on the HHKB but the top and side legends look a little "meh" to me. However, I have not seen them in person. How do they look up close and personal?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:14:16
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:12:17
    I like the look of legends as well. I even like the legends on the HHKB but the top and side legends look a little "meh" to me. However, I have not seen them in person. How do they look up close and personal?

    I don't own an HHKB. When I saw one in person, I said "WOW, those are legends. They're not blank!"  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:35:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 18:30:46
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:34:19
    Space bar from a g80 HUBUS, does it have normal stem spacing or funky Cherry spacing?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:56:41
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:55:14
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:52:12
    Hmm, appreciate the link but didn't see the model listed. It's g80 8113 HUBUS. I searched around GH and I believe it has a standard spacebar,  but if anyone can confirm, that would be great.
    If it's a 6.25 then it should have an off centre middle stem, just like all other Cherry 6.25s..

    Yeah that's exactly my thought process. I've never seen a standard stem spacing on OG Cherry caps. But I'll definitely double check later.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/adQOY8e.jpg)


    The answer, according to this G80-8113 spacebar, is no. The stem spacing is *not* standard.

    Thanks  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 05 June 2014, 15:13:36
    What is the average time it takes an admin to address a concern?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 June 2014, 15:14:25
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 05 June 2014, 15:13:36
    What is the average time it takes an admin to address a concern?

    36.65 minutes. :))  I have no idea.

    If you wait two days and don't get a reply, I'd say there's an issue. I'd PM another admin then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 05 June 2014, 15:18:52
    Can someone explain the layer push/pop/switching functions on the Ergodox?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 17:51:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:14:16
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 14:12:17
    I like the look of legends as well. I even like the legends on the HHKB but the top and side legends look a little "meh" to me. However, I have not seen them in person. How do they look up close and personal?

    I don't own an HHKB. When I saw one in person, I said "WOW, those are legends. They're not blank!"  :))

    Haha, I guess a lot of peeps do go with the blank don't they.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 June 2014, 17:54:27
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 17:51:44
    Haha, I guess a lot of peeps do go with the blank don't they.

    What I was trying to say is that if you want a blank HHKB, get it. I'm sure no one knows what you want better than you  ;).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 19:19:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 June 2014, 17:54:27
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 05 June 2014, 17:51:44
    Haha, I guess a lot of peeps do go with the blank don't they.

    What I was trying to say is that if you want a blank HHKB, get it. I'm sure no one knows what you want better than you  ;).

    But I never know what I want!  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 06 June 2014, 15:21:53
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 05 June 2014, 13:17:58
    On Cherry PS2 cables what's the pinout colours? I need to know :

    +5V/VCC
    DATA
    CLK
    GND

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/OJZ8vHj.png)

    Anyone? Could really do with knowing this ASAP, but can't find anything on it..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 06 June 2014, 15:28:01
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 06 June 2014, 15:21:53
    Could really do with knowing this ASAP, but can't find anything on it.

    Never trust colors. If you have a multi-meter, trace back from the cable pins themselves.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 06 June 2014, 15:30:29
    Ah, good idea! Thanks! I'll see if I can dig out a multimeter..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:34:56
    Just tested it with a multimeter.. Here's what I got :

    green - gnd
    black - vcc
    white - data
    yellow - clock

    Might be worth putting that in the OP CPT ^ (pinout for old Cherry G81/G80 PS2/DIN cables)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:43:47
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:34:56
    Just tested it with a multimeter.. Here's what I got :

    green - gnd
    black - vcc
    white - data
    yellow - clock

    Might be worth putting that in the OP CPT ^ (pinout for old Cherry G81/G80 PS2/DIN cables)

    YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD

    I'll add it soon, thanks photekq.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:51:57
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:34:56

    green  - gnd
    black   - vcc
    white  - data
    yellow - clock

    (pinout for old Cherry G81/G80 PS2/DIN cables)


    ha ha ha ha ha

    Trust this information at your own peril!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 06 June 2014, 20:08:47
    How do I turn on alt codes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 06 June 2014, 20:51:56
    Anyone know the pinout on a Dolch PAC 61?  I want to convert it to PS/2, but have no clue on where to start.  I can provide pics later if necessary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 June 2014, 20:59:01
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 06 June 2014, 20:51:56
    Anyone know the pinout on a Dolch PAC 61?  I want to convert it to PS/2, but have no clue on where to start.  I can provide pics later if necessary.

    Does this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44803.msg931253#msg931253) or this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9033.60) help at all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 06 June 2014, 21:06:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 June 2014, 20:59:01
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 06 June 2014, 20:51:56
    Anyone know the pinout on a Dolch PAC 61?  I want to convert it to PS/2, but have no clue on where to start.  I can provide pics later if necessary.

    Does this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44803.msg931253#msg931253) or this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9033.60) help at all?

    Thanks man for digging up those links for me.  I'll dive into them and see.  The lack of pictures may make things hard.  I know I couldn't find anything in the Soarer's thread. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 June 2014, 21:07:50
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 06 June 2014, 21:06:45
    Thanks man for digging up those links for me.  I'll dive into them and see.  The lack of pictures may make things hard.  I know I couldn't find anything in the Soarer's thread.

    I couldn't find any pictures but if you can't figure it out, let me know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 07 June 2014, 13:55:47
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 06 June 2014, 21:06:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 June 2014, 20:59:01
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 06 June 2014, 20:51:56
    Anyone know the pinout on a Dolch PAC 61?  I want to convert it to PS/2, but have no clue on where to start.  I can provide pics later if necessary.

    Does this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44803.msg931253#msg931253) or this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9033.60) help at all?

    Thanks man for digging up those links for me.  I'll dive into them and see.  The lack of pictures may make things hard.  I know I couldn't find anything in the Soarer's thread. 

    Just don't get 5V and Gnd mixed up. After that, try both combinations of data pins until it works.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 07 June 2014, 14:01:39
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 06 June 2014, 16:34:56
    Just tested it with a multimeter.. Here's what I got :

    green - gnd
    black - vcc
    white - data
    yellow - clock

    Might be worth putting that in the OP CPT ^ (pinout for old Cherry G81/G80 PS2/DIN cables)
    After checking again.. This isn't correct. The Cherry cables I have are a bit funny. There isn't a cable that goes to the CLK pin, instead there are ones going to the 'unused' ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 07 June 2014, 14:54:41
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 07 June 2014, 14:01:39
    After checking again.. This isn't correct. The Cherry cables I have are a bit funny. There isn't a cable that goes to the CLK pin, instead there are ones going to the 'unused' ones.


    I wasn't laughing at your results, I was laughing at the idea that colors would be consistent from cable to cable, brand to brand, model to model. Even IBM was never consistent at all, as I would have hoped.

    They are always wildly random, and also, I have found that "Ground" is sometimes the braided sheathing layer that you were expecting was just there for shielding.

    PS - remember that the diagrams show the female socket that the the cable plugs into - mirror image of your male plug.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 07 June 2014, 14:58:47
    Are brown and clear MX switches identical except for the springs and stems?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 07 June 2014, 15:03:47
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sat, 07 June 2014, 14:58:47
    Are brown and clear MX switches identical except for the springs and stems?

    All Cherry-brand MX switches are identical in their top and bottom housings (well, except for MX Lock), which are the only other parts besides the stems and springs. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 07 June 2014, 15:05:12
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 05 June 2014, 15:18:52
    Can someone explain the layer push/pop/switching functions on the Ergodox?

    To answer my own question for future reference,

    Pushing the chosen layer puts it "on top" of the current layer. All keys will change except for any that are marked as transparent. Popping removes a layer that has been pushed on top.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 07 June 2014, 15:05:54
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 07 June 2014, 15:03:47
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sat, 07 June 2014, 14:58:47
    Are brown and clear MX switches identical except for the springs and stems?

    All Cherry-brand MX switches are identical in their top and bottom housings (well, except for MX Lock), which are the only other parts besides the stems and springs. :)

    Excellent, thank you sir  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 07 June 2014, 15:24:30
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 07 June 2014, 14:54:41
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 07 June 2014, 14:01:39
    After checking again.. This isn't correct. The Cherry cables I have are a bit funny. There isn't a cable that goes to the CLK pin, instead there are ones going to the 'unused' ones.


    I wasn't laughing at your results, I was laughing at the idea that colors would be consistent from cable to cable, brand to brand, model to model. Even IBM was never consistent at all, as I would have hoped.

    They are always wildly random, and also, I have found that "Ground" is sometimes the braided sheathing layer that you were expecting was just there for shielding.

    PS - remember that the diagrams show the female socket that the the cable plugs into - mirror image of your male plug.
    Oh! The diagrams are the female socket! No wonder it was wrong..

    Here's the correct pinout :

    gnd -- white
    vcc -- black
    clock -- green
    data -- yellow
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 07 June 2014, 15:49:20
    Alright, so I'm still confused, so I posted my question about the Dolch Pac 61 in the making things together sub (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59239.0) to try and get some help instead of cluttering up simple questions, simple answers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Doesntknowwhattosay on Sat, 07 June 2014, 17:03:34
    Do you gain anything from putting diodes in the switches of an g80-3000 pcb instead of the wires?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 07 June 2014, 17:05:19
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 07 June 2014, 15:24:30

    Oh! The diagrams are the female socket! No wonder it was wrong..


    EVERYBODY gets that wrong. The wording/syntax/presentation at the bottom of the diagrams is very odd, obviously not an "English as a native language" speaker wrote them.

    I would have said something like: "This is a view of the female computer socket that your male cable end will plug into." even though a preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 June 2014, 17:05:36
    Quote from: Doesntknowwhattosay on Sat, 07 June 2014, 17:03:34
    Do you gain anything from putting diodes in the switches of an g80-3000 pcb instead of the wires?

    It won't work with diodes, or at least mine didn't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Sat, 07 June 2014, 22:50:27
    Does anyone know of a trusted Korean proxy? I am specifically trying to purchase a KMAC from kbdmod.com, but cannot figure out how to create an account for the life of me (or even if they will ship to USA), so proxy seems to be my only option for buying a KMAC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 07 June 2014, 22:52:34
    Quote from: minho on Sat, 07 June 2014, 22:50:27
    Does anyone know of a trusted Korean proxy? I am specifically trying to purchase a KMAC from kbdmod.com, but cannot figure out how to create an account for the life of me (or even if they will ship to USA), so proxy seems to be my only option for buying a KMAC.
    You could try asking one of our Korean members nicely. I'm sure they'd be willing to help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Sat, 07 June 2014, 22:59:35
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 07 June 2014, 22:52:34
    Quote from: minho on Sat, 07 June 2014, 22:50:27
    Does anyone know of a trusted Korean proxy? I am specifically trying to purchase a KMAC from kbdmod.com, but cannot figure out how to create an account for the life of me (or even if they will ship to USA), so proxy seems to be my only option for buying a KMAC.
    You could try asking one of our Korean members nicely. I'm sure they'd be willing to help.

    Er... how do I go about finding said members? (Just browse forum posts? Can anyone think of any nice Korean members off the top of their head?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 07 June 2014, 23:40:48
    Quote from: minho on Sat, 07 June 2014, 22:59:35
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 07 June 2014, 22:52:34
    Quote from: minho on Sat, 07 June 2014, 22:50:27
    Does anyone know of a trusted Korean proxy? I am specifically trying to purchase a KMAC from kbdmod.com, but cannot figure out how to create an account for the life of me (or even if they will ship to USA), so proxy seems to be my only option for buying a KMAC.
    You could try asking one of our Korean members nicely. I'm sure they'd be willing to help.

    Er... how do I go about finding said members? (Just browse forum posts? Can anyone think of any nice Korean members off the top of their head?)

    You could start a new thread, or perhaps have a look here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57258.msg1299375#msg1299375
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 02:16:40
    http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Pure-60-Programmable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Red-MX-Switch-/331057414849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d148f42c1

    Stock-on Keycaps: ABS (OEM profile)

    Does it mean lettering could be an issue with wearing off?
    Not particular true, in my case, i got Poker X and Pure, and on both, some letters wore off quite quickly
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 08 June 2014, 02:51:56
    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 02:16:40
    http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Pure-60-Programmable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Red-MX-Switch-/331057414849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d148f42c1

    Stock-on Keycaps: ABS (OEM profile)

    Does it mean lettering could be an issue with wearing off?
    Not particular true, in my case, i got Poker X and Pure, and on both, some letters wore off quite quickly


    Those stock keycaps are pad-printed and may-or-may-not have as issue with the legends wearing depending on a number of factors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 05:33:06
    Is there enough clearance for a foam sheet under the Filco pcb, and do I have to desolder everything if I wanted to lube, respring and sticker the switches(of the Filco)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 08 June 2014, 05:34:48
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 05:33:06
    Is there enough clearance for a foam sheet under the Filco pcb, and do I have to desolder everything if I wanted to lube, respring and sticker the switches(of the Filco)?

    1. No idea.
    2. Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 09:26:28
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 05:33:06
    Is there enough clearance for a foam sheet under the Filco pcb, and do I have to desolder everything if I wanted to lube, respring and sticker the switches(of the Filco)?
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 08 June 2014, 02:51:56
    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 02:16:40
    http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Pure-60-Programmable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Red-MX-Switch-/331057414849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d148f42c1

    Stock-on Keycaps: ABS (OEM profile)

    Does it mean lettering could be an issue with wearing off?
    Not particular true, in my case, i got Poker X and Pure, and on both, some letters wore off quite quickly


    Those stock keycaps are pad-printed and may-or-may-not have as issue with the legends wearing depending on a number of factors.
    Lettering from my Poker X keycaps wore off after couple days
    I have hands that get quite often greasy and sweaty
    is there any level of ABS except for lettering etching mode?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 08 June 2014, 09:29:24
    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 09:26:28
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 05:33:06
    Is there enough clearance for a foam sheet under the Filco pcb, and do I have to desolder everything if I wanted to lube, respring and sticker the switches(of the Filco)?
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 08 June 2014, 02:51:56
    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 02:16:40
    http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Pure-60-Programmable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Red-MX-Switch-/331057414849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d148f42c1

    Stock-on Keycaps: ABS (OEM profile)

    Does it mean lettering could be an issue with wearing off?
    Not particular true, in my case, i got Poker X and Pure, and on both, some letters wore off quite quickly


    Those stock keycaps are pad-printed and may-or-may-not have as issue with the legends wearing depending on a number of factors.
    Lettering from my Poker X keycaps wore off after couple days
    I have hands that get quite often greasy and sweaty
    is there any level of ABS except for lettering etching mode?

    In your case, I would look for double shot caps. The legends are a separate shot of plastic in the mold, so you'll have to wear the caps down to nothing before the legend disappears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 09:38:30
    Thanks but i would stay on ABS which i love feeling lol.
    ABS shinning issue doesnt bother me as long as lettering doesnt wear.
    By the way, i dont have enough budget to get double shot caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 08 June 2014, 09:40:24
    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 09:38:30
    Thanks but i would stay on ABS which i love feeling lol.
    ABS shinning issue doesnt bother me as long as lettering doesnt wear.
    By the way, i dont have enough budget to get double shot caps.
    Lasered ABS is probably the way to go then. It won't wear for quite a while and is cheap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Sun, 08 June 2014, 09:42:06
    Double shot ABS can be found for pretty cheap through Taihao group buys. You can post on classifieds for them or join the ongoing Taihao dolch group buy if you're willing to wait.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 10:07:46
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 05:33:06
    1) Is there enough clearance for a foam sheet under the Filco pcb
    2) Do I have to desolder everything if I wanted to lube, respring and sticker the switches(of the Filco)?

    1) Yes
    2) Yes

    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 09:26:28
    Lettering from my Poker X keycaps wore off after couple days
    I have hands that get quite often greasy and sweaty
    is there any level of ABS except for lettering etching mode?

    You can try looking for Tai Hao ABS doubleshots. I think Keypop still has some but they pop up in the Classifieds. They're usually around $10-20 for the set.  Fits your budget and your needs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 11:03:03
    And can a 38gt+alu plate combo from GON fit into a stock Poker 2 case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 12:59:56
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 11:03:03
    And can a 38gt+alu plate combo from GON fit into a stock Poker 2 case?

    Think so but I'm not sure. Would be a waste to do that though imo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cphead on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:19:22
    Hi guys. This black thing on the pcb came off through an unfortunate series of events.  :( What is it and how can I go about replacing it? I'm guessing its a resistor or diode of some sort? Thanks for any help  :)

    (http://i.imgur.com/XUVVTEw.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:20:59
    Quote from: cphead on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:19:22
    Hi guys. This black thing on the pcb came off through an unfortunate series of events.  :( What is it and how can I go about replacing it? I'm guessing its a resistor or diode of some sort? Thanks for any help  :)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/XUVVTEw.jpg)


    It was a diode. It looks like you maybe able to solder another one on if you're careful but someone else might have better insight than I do. I'm not that knowledgeable about SMD components.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:21:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 10:07:46
    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 08 June 2014, 09:26:28
    Lettering from my Poker X keycaps wore off after couple days
    I have hands that get quite often greasy and sweaty
    is there any level of ABS except for lettering etching mode?

    You can try looking for Tai Hao ABS doubleshots. I think Keypop still has some but they pop up in the Classifieds. They're usually around $10-20 for the set.  Fits your budget and your needs.

    Originative has their taihao in stock but you know...its originative
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:37:17
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:21:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 10:07:46
    You can try looking for Tai Hao ABS doubleshots. I think Keypop still has some but they pop up in the Classifieds. They're usually around $10-20 for the set.  Fits your budget and your needs.

    Originative has their taihao in stock but you know...its originative

    There's also a GB still going on afaik.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:38:17
    I have a very important question. I have a $50 Visa card. Do I use it to buy a next level fountain pen or invest in a set of keycaps. SOMEONE HELP ME SPEND MY MONEY :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:41:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:38:17
    I have a very important question. I have a $50 Visa card. Do I use it to buy a next level fountain pen or invest in a set of keycaps. SOMEONE HELP ME SPEND MY MONEY :3
    Put it towards keycaps. Who needs to write when you can type?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:41:30
    Give it to me :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:41:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 February 2013, 20:33:59
    Now for a few rules:
    • This is not a sale/trade thread. Please use the Classifieds or PMs to handle that kind of business.
    • Please try and ask yes/no questions or questions that can be answered in a single post or two
    • Please don't ask about prices, we have a thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0) for that already.
    • Please try and quote the question you're answering. This thread is now big enough that multiple questions and answers are being asked at once and it can get confusing.
    • Please try to limit the discussions here, we have countless other threads and places to discuss. I'd like to keep this thread true to its title. Sorry if I stifle the discussion from time to time
    • Please don't bump your question. I know I'm usually fast with answers (or someone else is fast), but if you don't get an answer in an hour, just be patient. I might actually be doing researching/digging and you might not even know. I think the longest someone waited for an answer is 3-4 days. Just wait or PM me.
    • Please don't post memes or gifs in this thread
    • Please keep this keyboard (keyboards, keycaps, springs, mods, soldering, etc) related.
    • Please don’t bicker in this thread. I will have it cleaned up if I feel it’s needed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:42:29
    Wow Bluebar, you could've just said keycaps. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:43:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:42:29
    Wow Bluebar, you could've just said keycaps. :(

    But I've always wanted to do this :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:44:24
    I should use that $50 to buy you some manners.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:49:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:44:24
    I should use that $50 to buy you some manners.

    You should use those 50$ for a large print of your own thread's rules! >:D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 08 June 2014, 15:04:15
    Guys, guys, put them away, we already have a winner:

    (http://i.imgur.com/CPg0qFa.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sun, 08 June 2014, 15:12:07
    Where can I find a cherry profile 7x spacebar that will match a Desko set that I ordered from IMSTO. Been lookign everywhere but I cannot seem to fine one. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 08 June 2014, 15:16:17
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sun, 08 June 2014, 15:12:07
    Where can I find a cherry profile 7x spacebar that will match a Desko set that I ordered from IMSTO. Been lookign everywhere but I cannot seem to fine one. Thanks!

    Pretty much the only way to get it would require getting a complete set, Cheapest is get an DE iso dyesub set, usually for $85+
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 08 June 2014, 16:45:02
    Pacifist, what about the MX11800 spacebar that we discussed previously? It's a great match with BSP/OG.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 08 June 2014, 16:50:08
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 08 June 2014, 16:45:02
    Pacifist, what about the MX11800 spacebar that we discussed previously? It's a great match with BSP/OG.

    color is off
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 08 June 2014, 17:09:33
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sun, 08 June 2014, 15:12:07
    Where can I find a cherry profile 7x spacebar that will match a Desko set that I ordered from IMSTO. Been lookign everywhere but I cannot seem to fine one. Thanks!

    Well, Pacifist is right that the color is not an exact match, but it's pretty close. Here are a couple pics of an MX11800 spacebar on top of Cherry dyesubs. First pic no flash, second pic has flash. Under most normal lighting conditions, I think most people wouldn't notice the mismatch unless you called attention to it. The color difference is more exaggerated in pics than in real life, I'd say. That said, if you can get German dyesubs for only a little more money, you might want to do that.

    (http://i.imgur.com/LYPSn6Z.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/F0dnf2d.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 08 June 2014, 17:15:44
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 08 June 2014, 17:09:33
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sun, 08 June 2014, 15:12:07
    Where can I find a cherry profile 7x spacebar that will match a Desko set that I ordered from IMSTO. Been lookign everywhere but I cannot seem to fine one. Thanks!

    Well, Pacifist is right that the color is not an exact match, but it's pretty close. Here are a couple pics of an MX11800 spacebar on top of Cherry dyesubs. First pic no flash, second pic has flash. Under most normal lighting conditions, I think most people wouldn't notice the mismatch unless you called attention to it. The color difference is more exaggerated in pics than in real life, I'd say. That said, if you can get German dyesubs for only a little more money, you might want to do that.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/LYPSn6Z.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/F0dnf2d.jpg)


    If you put the 11800 bar on a dyesub set with RGB, its not as noticeable, but pure black on white is quite visible imo
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 18:59:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 12:59:56
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 11:03:03
    And can a 38gt+alu plate combo from GON fit into a stock Poker 2 case?

    Think so but I'm not sure. Would be a waste to do that though imo.
    Why is that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 08 June 2014, 19:04:04
    Because why would you want to put a premium GON PCB into a crappy plastic Poker case?  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 08 June 2014, 19:04:20
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 18:59:44
    Why is that?

    A Korean PCB in a plastic stock case? You should rather invest in the case instead in the PCB imho.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 08 June 2014, 19:04:28
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 18:59:44
    Why is that?
    Fancy custom PCB, fancy plate, stock plastic case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 19:53:38
    Does the case really make that much a difference?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 08 June 2014, 20:00:20
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 19:53:38
    Does the case really make that much a difference?

    yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Sun, 08 June 2014, 20:07:50
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 19:53:38
    Does the case really make that much a difference?

    A big part of why GON's keyboards are so attractive is because of the cool lighting effects underneath the keyboard, which would be completed eliminated by a Poker case. Additionally, what is the point in spending a premium price on a keyboard if it basically has the same aesthetics and functionality as the $100 Poker?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 09 June 2014, 03:54:22
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 19:53:38
    Does the case really make that much a difference?

    I would even say that the case is the most important part of a custom keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 07:43:10
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 08 June 2014, 19:53:38
    Does the case really make that much a difference?

    Yup, if you're going to be picking between that GON PCB in a plastic case and a Poker 2, might as well just get a Poker 2 and save yourself the hassle. For me, the point of having a custom is having a nice PCB *AND* a nice case. Otherwise I can just stick with Filcos and Duckys and the like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: terrpn on Mon, 09 June 2014, 09:07:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 June 2014, 14:38:17
    I have a very important question. I have a $50 Visa card. Do I use it to buy a next level fountain pen or invest in a set of keycaps. SOMEONE HELP ME SPEND MY MONEY :3

    fountain pen of course or ink................ :thumb:

    http://www.shopwritersbloc.com/noodlers-eel-lubricating-ink-eel-cactus-fruit.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Mon, 09 June 2014, 11:56:58
    My package arrived at Tenso and I paid the fees.

    Anyone know how long it generally takes to get here? I live in NYC if that helps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 11:59:42
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Mon, 09 June 2014, 11:56:58
    My package arrived at Tenso and I paid the fees.

    Anyone know how long it generally takes to get here? I live in NYC if that helps.

    Tenso's site (http://www.tenso.com/en/faq/detail_019.html) says 2-4 days after Tenso gets the package. Seems pretty fast. I've never used them before so I have no personal experience with it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 09 June 2014, 16:28:46
    I use Tenso all the time to get dem Japanese snacks

    nothing but good experiences

    it's pretty quick for what it is, too
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 16:36:26
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 09 June 2014, 16:28:46
    it's pretty quick for what it is, too

    What's your experience for "pretty quick"? 4 Days? Lightspeed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 09 June 2014, 18:54:50
    2 days from when they get my stuff it's usually on it's way to me

    then it's maybe 5 more days to me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 09 June 2014, 18:59:55
    **** that's fast. I'm going to try it out for some mousepads
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 19:00:28
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 09 June 2014, 18:54:50
    2 days from when they get my stuff it's usually on it's way to me

    then it's maybe 5 more days to me

    Got it, Tenso = lightspeed from Japan.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 09 June 2014, 20:12:16
    How far do we need to clip the stems on pcb switches to be able to use on plate without any issues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 20:12:56
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 09 June 2014, 20:12:16
    How far do we need to clip the stems on pcb switches to be able to use on plate without any issues?

    So they sit right? Just try it out. It doesn't need to be an exact measurement...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 09 June 2014, 20:15:26
    I don't have any non PCB mounted boards to test it out. When I clip them, there's probally 2 mm sticking out, and if I focus the stump, it goes to .75mm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 20:20:25
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 09 June 2014, 20:15:26
    I don't have any non PCB mounted boards to test it out. When I clip them, there's probally 2 mm sticking out, and if I focus the stump, it goes to .75mm

    Clip it so it's flush with the bottom of the switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:26:27
    The grips on my HASRO are absolutely gone. Anyone know of any good replacement grips for keyboards? small enough to not make the keyboard slanted or anything..just to add a little grip underneath
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:31:11
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:26:27
    The grips on my HASRO are absolutely gone. Anyone know of any good replacement grips for keyboards? small enough to not make the keyboard slanted or anything..just to add a little grip underneath

    BlueLounge Grips are what people have used on their HHKBs. Can also look into bumpons or rubber with adhesive backing from 3M. Can also sit it on something grippy like drawer linear or fohat.digs' EDPM mats.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:56:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:31:11
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:26:27
    The grips on my HASRO are absolutely gone. Anyone know of any good replacement grips for keyboards? small enough to not make the keyboard slanted or anything..just to add a little grip underneath

    BlueLounge Grips are what people have used on their HHKBs. Can also look into bumpons or rubber with adhesive backing from 3M. Can also sit it on something grippy like drawer linear or fohat.digs' EDPM mats.

    not to be THAT guy but I'm going to be THAT guy, anyone have a link for "Can also look into bumpons or rubber with adhesive backing from 3M." this? I'm aware of fohat's thread :P

    thanks CPT
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 23:00:48
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:56:55
    not to be THAT guy but I'm going to be THAT guy, anyone have a link for "Can also look into bumpons or rubber with adhesive backing from 3M." this? I'm aware of fohat's thread :P

    thanks CPT

    Nice non-statement. I could send you to let me google that for you but I won't be that guy. See how that works?  ;) Here's some possible products that could help you:

    http://www.amazon.com/3M-SJ5312-Bumpon-Blister-Clear/dp/B000NG60SW
    http://www.amazon.com/3M-2155-Rubber-Splicing-Tape/dp/B001CGVEXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402372650&sr=8-1&keywords=3m+rubber+tape
    http://www.amazon.com/Bluelounge-Design-Protective-Tablets-KS-GR/dp/B005J6SRY6
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 09 June 2014, 23:03:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 23:00:48
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:56:55
    not to be THAT guy but I'm going to be THAT guy, anyone have a link for "Can also look into bumpons or rubber with adhesive backing from 3M." this? I'm aware of fohat's thread :P

    thanks CPT

    Nice non-statement. I could send you to let me google that for you but I won't be that guy. See how that works?  ;) Here's some possible products that could help you:

    http://www.amazon.com/3M-SJ5312-Bumpon-Blister-Clear/dp/B000NG60SW
    http://www.amazon.com/3M-2155-Rubber-Splicing-Tape/dp/B001CGVEXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402372650&sr=8-1&keywords=3m+rubber+tape
    http://www.amazon.com/Bluelounge-Design-Protective-Tablets-KS-GR/dp/B005J6SRY6

    THANK YOU for not being that guy

    serious potential for too many of those 'guys' tonight

    seriously; thanks for the links
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 23:10:01
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 09 June 2014, 23:03:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 23:00:48
    Nice non-statement. I could send you to let me google that for you but I won't be that guy. See how that works?  ;) Here's some possible products that could help you:

    http://www.amazon.com/3M-SJ5312-Bumpon-Blister-Clear/dp/B000NG60SW
    http://www.amazon.com/3M-2155-Rubber-Splicing-Tape/dp/B001CGVEXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402372650&sr=8-1&keywords=3m+rubber+tape
    http://www.amazon.com/Bluelounge-Design-Protective-Tablets-KS-GR/dp/B005J6SRY6

    THANK YOU for not being that guy

    serious potential for too many of those 'guys' tonight

    seriously; thanks for the links

    Dubsgalore, just be careful when picking out bumpons. They come in a lot of different sizes. The heights may angle your board to an angle you won't like. It's probably easiest if you make paper shims and measure the shims with a ruler to figure out what size bumpon would work for you. I think people are really happy with those BlueLounge strips too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 06:00:58
    What's the heaviest 60% case on the market?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 10 June 2014, 06:10:21
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 06:00:58
    What's the heaviest 60% case on the market?

    Probably one of those with brass weights, so I'd guess the 356mini.

    (That's of course a whole keyboard, not sure what standalone cases have brass weights)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 07:00:11
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 10 June 2014, 06:10:21
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 06:00:58
    What's the heaviest 60% case on the market?

    Probably one of those with brass weights, so I'd guess the 356mini.

    (That's of course a whole keyboard, not sure what standalone cases have brass weights)
    I'm only aware of the Duck Poker with brass pucks, and the FMJ #1 with brass suites. And that beautiful brass slab of the 356mini.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 08:37:33
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 06:00:58
    What's the heaviest 60% case on the market?
    LZ-SE. Heaviest board I ever picked up, period. I literally hurt my hand picking it up one handed at keycon.

    60%? probably the 356mini, duck mini, or hsmmer case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 June 2014, 11:11:03
    Didn't Gupgup have a milled steel imsto poker case at one time? I wonder what ever happened to that thing...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 10 June 2014, 11:32:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 08:37:33
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 06:00:58
    What's the heaviest 60% case on the market?
    LZ-SE. Heaviest board I ever picked up, period. I literally hurt my hand picking it up one handed at keycon.

    60%? probably the 356mini, duck mini, or hsmmer case.

    definitely the 356
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 15:01:14
    Quick question -

    If I'm using red springs in clear switches, should I go with thin lube? I read that thick lube is better for clear switches, but at the same time, thin lube may be the only thing that red springs will be able to support in combination with the clear switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 10 June 2014, 15:30:19
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 15:01:14
    If I'm using red springs in clear switches, should I go with thin lube? I read that thick lube is better for clear switches, but at the same time, thin lube may be the only thing that red springs will be able to support in combination with the clear switch.

    I don't think that thick lube is that sticky that it would be an issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:14:49
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 15:01:14
    Quick question -

    If I'm using red springs in clear switches, should I go with thin lube? I read that thick lube is better for clear switches, but at the same time, thin lube may be the only thing that red springs will be able to support in combination with the clear switch.

    I bought grease and oil and mixed until I thought it was a good consistency.  It is greasy enough to stay where I put it, but it is viscous enough that if I shake the container, it moves the mixture down the side of the container pretty easily.  I found the thickness of the lube to be very subjective.  I played with it a bit until I was happy with it.  I still don't KNOW for sure that it is the perfect mix, but it feels right now. 

    Maybe someone can link a guide that describes the consistency that lube should be.  I think it is probably too subjective and hard to quantify for people to give really good answers on this...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:18:39
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:14:49
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 15:01:14
    Quick question -

    If I'm using red springs in clear switches, should I go with thin lube? I read that thick lube is better for clear switches, but at the same time, thin lube may be the only thing that red springs will be able to support in combination with the clear switch.

    Maybe someone can link a guide that describes the consistency that lube should be.  I think it is probably too subjective and hard to quantify for people to give really good answers on this...

    For my switches, I just mixed it like you did until I was happy with the consistency. It turned out to be about fifty percent Krytox 206 and fifty percent 1506. This one might be a test-for-yourself thing. Could also get mkawa to chime in since he's the one that's done the most research into Krytox.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:57:34
    Just to clarify, the thin and thick lubes I'm talking about are mkawas.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:59:44
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:57:34
    Just to clarify, the thin and thick lubes I'm talking about are mkawas.

    is one a grease and one an oil?  if so, I would recommend getting both and mixing them till you have a nice consistency.  i bought Krytox grease from mkawa and Krytox oil from Sprit and mixed them to a consistency I was happy with...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 17:53:38
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:59:44
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:57:34
    Just to clarify, the thin and thick lubes I'm talking about are mkawas.

    is one a grease and one an oil?  if so, I would recommend getting both and mixing them till you have a nice consistency.  i bought Krytox grease from mkawa and Krytox oil from Sprit and mixed them to a consistency I was happy with...

    I'm pretty sure its a premixed solution of oil and grease already.

    How did you know when it was "right"?

    Also, is thicker lube recommended for clears generally because thin lube doesn't have much effect on how they feel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 18:02:53
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 17:53:38
    How did you know when it was "right"?

    Also, is thicker lube recommended for clears generally because thin lube doesn't have much effect on how they feel?

    It was right 'cause I shook it in the can and I watched how the fluid flowed. When I liked the viscosity, I stopped.

    I believe thick is for Topre. I think the thin will work fine for Clears. This thread has some feedback (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59041.0) on how people like lubing their switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:23:38
    How does the pcb and plate being bolted down to the case instead of sandwiched between 2 aluminum layers like the kmac and 356mini affect the stability and typing feedback on the fingers? The first thing that comes to mind is the plate flex for sandwiched cases. Anything else?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:28:46
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:23:38
    How does the pcb and plate being bolted down to the case instead of sandwiched between 2 aluminum layers like the kmac and 356mini affect the stability and typing feedback on the fingers? The first thing that comes to mind is the plate flex for sandwiched cases. Anything else?

    The KMAC is bolted to the bottom half of the case. I'm not sure what you're referring to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:42:58
    Can someone tell if this  (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.b8qRtf&id=39064510979)GH60 PCB is a revision with no major problems? How could it be this cheap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:07:22
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:42:58
    Can someone tell if this  (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.b8qRtf&id=39064510979)GH60 PCB is a revision with no major problems? How could it be this cheap?

    That is a FaceU by BeastMask. Similar to a GH60 in that it's programmable and configurable for several layouts. But not a GH60.

    sprit has been selling its successor, the FaceW, for a while now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:43:52
    Thanks for responses about lubing.

    I also have some questions about purchasing stabilizers and stabilizers in general.

    First, what are the primary differences in appearance between plate and pcb mount stabilizers? Is it possible to turn one into the other as with PCB mount switches into plate mount switches?

    Second, what type is typically used for custom keyboards? (Seems like Cherry is?)

    Third, where can I purchase them for cheap? Willing to buy in bulk (up to about $50 worth, maybe $100 if absolutely necessary). Cherry preferred.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 23:03:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:28:46
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:23:38
    How does the pcb and plate being bolted down to the case instead of sandwiched between 2 aluminum layers like the kmac and 356mini affect the stability and typing feedback on the fingers? The first thing that comes to mind is the plate flex for sandwiched cases. Anything else?

    The KMAC is bolted to the bottom half of the case. I'm not sure what you're referring to.
    What I meant was the KMAC is bolted to the sides of the bottom half, and that with the aluminium 60%s, the pcb and plate is bolted directly to the base of the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 11 June 2014, 00:35:51
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:43:52
    Thanks for responses about lubing.

    I also have some questions about purchasing stabilizers and stabilizers in general.

    First, what are the primary differences in appearance between plate and pcb mount stabilizers? Is it possible to turn one into the other as with PCB mount switches into plate mount switches?

    Second, what type is typically used for custom keyboards? (Seems like Cherry is?)

    Third, where can I purchase them for cheap? Willing to buy in bulk (up to about $50 worth, maybe $100 if absolutely necessary). Cherry preferred.

    There is enough of a difference between plate and PCB mount Cherry stabs that they are not interchangeable.  PCB mount stabs will not for through the hole in a plate meant for plate mount and plate mount stabs will not clip into the PCB.  Also Costar stabs only come in plate mount.  There is a hole design for the plate that will accept both plate mount cherry and costar.  It was used on the phantom plates iirc.

    For cherry switches though the only difference is PCB mount has 2 extra pins as part of the bottom switch housing.  Clip them off and you now have plate mount.  Plate mount switches will technically work without a plate but it is not recommended for stability reasons and it is almost impossible to get them to line up correctly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:24:14
    Quote from: minho on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:43:52
    1) What are the primary differences in appearance between plate and pcb mount stabilizers?

    2) Is it possible to turn one into the other as with PCB mount switches into plate mount switches?

    3) What type is typically used for custom keyboards? (Seems like Cherry is?)

    4) Where can I purchase them for cheap? Willing to buy in bulk (up to about $50 worth, maybe $100 if absolutely necessary). Cherry preferred.

    1) Check out this image (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41464.0;attach=17055;image) from the GH60 GB OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.0).

    2) No

    3) I've seen both. The Korean customs tend to go Cherry and I think the Phantom has Costar. Although I think Melvang might know better than I do.

    4) Mouser will sell the stabilizers in bulk but they don't have the 6.25x wires. I think they had 6x and 8x but I don't remember. OnlineComponents might have it too. And I think Imsto and GON have stabilizers as well but I don't know if you'll be able to buy in bulk. I bought like 20 kits of the stabilizers (besides the wires) from Mouser a while back. You can either bend the wire yourself, harvest them, or try and find another supplier that has the proper kits. The OP has some details about the component names and how to buy them on Mouser.


    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 23:03:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:28:46
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:23:38
    How does the pcb and plate being bolted down to the case instead of sandwiched between 2 aluminum layers like the kmac and 356mini affect the stability and typing feedback on the fingers? The first thing that comes to mind is the plate flex for sandwiched cases. Anything else?

    The KMAC is bolted to the bottom half of the case. I'm not sure what you're referring to.
    What I meant was the KMAC is bolted to the sides of the bottom half, and that with the aluminium 60%s, the pcb and plate is bolted directly to the base of the case.

    I don't notice a change in feel between the two. The Duck Minis I've tried are just as solid feeling as my KMAC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:48:35
    And do I need to get the addon pack for the Taihao Dolch if I'm only using a 60%?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:50:24
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:48:35
    And do I need to get the addon pack for the Taihao Dolch if I'm only using a 60%?

    I don't know. Is your 60% ISO, Winkeyless, setup like the Pure, or do you want blank windows caps? If you answer yes to any of those, then you probably want it. Although you could start a new trend and not put caps in certain places and type on the stems  :)).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:51:35
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:48:35
    And do I need to get the addon pack for the Taihao Dolch if I'm only using a 60%?

    Please take a closer look at what the addon pack contains. It depends on your planned layout.

    Sniped!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:54:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:07:22
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:42:58
    Can someone tell if this  (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.b8qRtf&id=39064510979)GH60 PCB is a revision with no major problems? How could it be this cheap?

    That is a FaceU by BeastMask. Similar to a GH60 in that it's programmable and configurable for several layouts. But not a GH60.

    sprit has been selling its successor, the FaceW, for a while now.

    Does it worth a try?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:57:18
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:51:35
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:48:35
    And do I need to get the addon pack for the Taihao Dolch if I'm only using a 60%?

    Please take a closer look at what the addon pack contains. It depends on your planned layout.

    Sniped!
    It has Poker II innards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:57:34
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:54:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:07:22
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:42:58
    Can someone tell if this  (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.b8qRtf&id=39064510979)GH60 PCB is a revision with no major problems? How could it be this cheap?

    That is a FaceU by BeastMask. Similar to a GH60 in that it's programmable and configurable for several layouts. But not a GH60.

    sprit has been selling its successor, the FaceW, for a while now.

    Does it worth a try?

    Can't hurt to try it. But if it were me, I'd rather get the FaceW since it's newer and presumably updated.

    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:57:18
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:51:35
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:48:35
    And do I need to get the addon pack for the Taihao Dolch if I'm only using a 60%?

    Please take a closer look at what the addon pack contains. It depends on your planned layout.

    Sniped!
    It has Poker II innards.

    So you don't need it unless you want the blank windows keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 11 June 2014, 08:18:47
    I hear that thick abs cherry/gmk is the best, however I can't seem to find where to buy keysets like that? Is it only sold in the aftermarket?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 June 2014, 08:21:05
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 11 June 2014, 08:18:47
    I hear that thick abs cherry/gmk is the best, however I can't seem to find where to buy keysets like that? Is it only sold in the aftermarket?

    There's a GB running right now for GMK keycaps in the Dolch Colorway here from Ivan (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.0). BunnyLake has also hinted CTRL ALT will be running GMK sets soon. You can also look for Cherry G80-XXXXH and G81-XXXXH keyboards on eBay to harvest the keycaps from. Finally, they might show up in the classifieds.

    Edit: FWIW, the doubleshot Cherry/GMK caps are my favorite keycaps hands down.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 11 June 2014, 10:55:32
    My favorites too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 11 June 2014, 22:30:55
    Not sure if this is the right place for this, but we will see.

    I am putting together a 60% board right now and I was planning to do an ANSI Pure layout (1.75 short right shift + fn key).  I was putting the stabilizers together and putting them on the board and I realized that since the shift key is less than 2 units long, it does not have stabilizers.  I am interested in people's feedback who have used the pure layout if that has been an issue at all.  My main concern is that when I do hit that key, I almost never hit it in the middle of the key and I am wondering if people have had problems with it because of that.

    Thanks for the input...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 11 June 2014, 22:50:22
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 11 June 2014, 22:30:55
    Not sure if this is the right place for this, but we will see.

    I am putting together a 60% board right now and I was planning to do an ANSI Pure layout (1.75 short right shift + fn key).  I was putting the stabilizers together and putting them on the board and I realized that since the shift key is less than 2 units long, it does not have stabilizers.  I am interested in people's feedback who have used the pure layout if that has been an issue at all.  My main concern is that when I do hit that key, I almost never hit it in the middle of the key and I am wondering if people have had problems with it because of that.

    Thanks for the input...

    Caps Lock is 1.75 and it does not have an stabilizer, I have heard no complains on the caps lock being
    an issue. Neither in the center stem, nor in the sided stem one.

    In my case I use caps lock as control and I have not had any issue at all, of course its use as control key is far more frequent than as caps lock. According with WhatPulse it has  3% of usage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 11 June 2014, 23:03:53
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 11 June 2014, 22:50:22
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 11 June 2014, 22:30:55
    Not sure if this is the right place for this, but we will see.

    I am putting together a 60% board right now and I was planning to do an ANSI Pure layout (1.75 short right shift + fn key).  I was putting the stabilizers together and putting them on the board and I realized that since the shift key is less than 2 units long, it does not have stabilizers.  I am interested in people's feedback who have used the pure layout if that has been an issue at all.  My main concern is that when I do hit that key, I almost never hit it in the middle of the key and I am wondering if people have had problems with it because of that.

    Thanks for the input...

    Caps Lock is 1.75 and it does not have an stabilizer, I have heard no complains on the caps lock being
    an issue. Neither in the center stem, nor in the sided stem one.

    In my case I use caps lock as control and I have not had any issue at all, of course its use as control key is far more frequent than as caps lock. According with WhatPulse it has  3% of usage.

    I also use caps lock as control, so that is a pretty good comparison.  Thanks for the input, that helps me...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 June 2014, 23:24:06
    Yeah, I like the short right shift. No stabilizer needed. I always hit it on that side, anyway, so I don't miss the extra length. And when you get used to the HHKB layout, you just expect the Fn key to be to the right of the shift key. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 12 June 2014, 04:50:43
    Any idea where I could find images that are printable for actual size for bending cherry, costar, and/or alps stabilizer wires?  Looking for something I can use as a template for sizes and styles that I don't have in my possession.   Also, wire thickness for these would be great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Thu, 12 June 2014, 05:12:19
    I know the size of the wire is 1.6mm (I use stainless steel welding rods), and there are spacebar dimensions on the DT wiki but don't know if there are any templates. I just use an existing wire and a wire bending jig (picked one up on ebay for like £5) to make mine.

    Spacebar dims - http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions
    Jig - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/wire-bending-jig-perfect-shapes-every-time-/281193034524?pt=UK_BOI_Metalworking_Milling_Welding_Metalworking_Supplies_ET&hash=item417869331c#ht_559wt_1161
    Rods - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171205928211?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_1701wt_1161
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:01:47
    Quote from: Hzza on Thu, 12 June 2014, 05:12:19
    I know the size of the wire is 1.6mm (I use stainless steel welding rods), and there are spacebar dimensions on the DT wiki but don't know if there are any templates. I just use an existing wire and a wire bending jig (picked one up on ebay for like £5) to make mine.

    Spacebar dims - http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions
    Jig - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/wire-bending-jig-perfect-shapes-every-time-/281193034524?pt=UK_BOI_Metalworking_Milling_Welding_Metalworking_Supplies_ET&hash=item417869331c#ht_559wt_1161
    Rods - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171205928211?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_1701wt_1161

    That thickness almost sounds like it would be for cherry wires. 

    Also, that jig wouldn't really work much for costar wires.  I was planning on getting a set of round nose and possibly a set of 3 jaw pliers. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:08:19
    Yeah, you're right, all that information just relates to Cherry wires. I have no idea about Costar/Alps thickness, that post should cover the Costar side though (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46801.msg990494#msg990494).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:27:59
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 11 June 2014, 22:30:55
    Not sure if this is the right place for this, but we will see.

    I am putting together a 60% board right now and I was planning to do an ANSI Pure layout (1.75 short right shift + fn key).  I was putting the stabilizers together and putting them on the board and I realized that since the shift key is less than 2 units long, it does not have stabilizers.  I am interested in people's feedback who have used the pure layout if that has been an issue at all.  My main concern is that when I do hit that key, I almost never hit it in the middle of the key and I am wondering if people have had problems with it because of that.

    Thanks for the input...

    I wouldn't worry about it. I have two keyboards with this layout (Pure and Epsilon) and it hasn't been an issue.

    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 12 June 2014, 04:50:43
    Any idea where I could find images that are printable for actual size for bending cherry, costar, and/or alps stabilizer wires?  Looking for something I can use as a template for sizes and styles that I don't have in my possession.   Also, wire thickness for these would be great.

    I'm not sure there has been templates made. I know metalliqaz bent wire for the Epsilon boards by trial and error.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:32:02
    Litster had a YouTube video for bending Costar wires. Is it not in the OP? I can post a link later if not, and if someone doesn't beat me to it. I'm on my mobile right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:33:13
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:32:02
    Litster had a YouTube video for bending Costar wires. Is it not in the OP? I can post a link later if not, and if someone doesn't beat me to it. I'm on my mobile right now.
    It's in the post I linked 2 posts above yours (and linked in the OP).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:34:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:32:02
    Litster had a YouTube video for bending Costar wires. Is it not in the OP? I can post a link later if not, and if someone doesn't beat me to it. I'm on my mobile right now.

    It's in the OP. Here is the link in the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_NN). Here is the link to the video itself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zry3CHNKgT8).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gustavQ on Thu, 12 June 2014, 18:20:25
    Hi guys,

    this is a keyboard that it is worth it to buy?

    PREH COMMANDER PC-POS C2A12L03G1

    (http://s22.postimg.org/t0ng5md2p/457029511_1x.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 18:28:37
    Show Image
    Quote from: gustavQ on Thu, 12 June 2014, 18:20:25
    Hi guys,

    this is a keyboard that it is worth it to buy?

    PREH COMMANDER PC-POS C2A12L03G1

    (http://s22.postimg.org/t0ng5md2p/457029511_1x.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

    It would help way more to know what switches are in it. After doing some poking around, it seems they might be MX compatible keycaps, perhaps from WYSE, with the possibility of having the following switches: MX, MY, Keytronic, Slider over rubber dome. If you're not there in person to test it, have someone pull a keycap and take a picture. Just a glance of the top isn't that helpful and I can't recommend you buy it or not buy it until I know more. Posts I gathered information from:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38676.msg750974#msg750974
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38676.0
    http://deskthority.net/f-o-r-s-a-l-e-f58/ugly-thin-old-yellowed-doubleshot-mx-compatible-caps-t6039.html
    http://deskthority.net/f-o-r-s-a-l-e-f58/ugly-thin-old-yellowed-doubleshot-mx-compatible-caps-t6039.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 12 June 2014, 18:41:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 18:28:37
    ...it seems they might be MX compatible keycaps, perhaps from WYSE...

    Those are not Wyse legends. Compare it to this: http://i.imgur.com/2EXFfDv.jpg
    For example the * legend above the 8 is completly different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:36:03
    What do I use to program lz mx minis?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:36:38
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:36:03
    What do I use to program lz mx minis?

    LZ has their own program don't they?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:37:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:36:38
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:36:03
    What do I use to program lz mx minis?

    LZ has their own program don't they?

    Not very familiar with korean boards, and google didn't get anything worthwhile on what program to use
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:43:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:37:41
    What do I use to program lz mx minis?

    I'm not that familiar with LZ stuff. But try this: Go to red-line's website (http://red-line.kr/), go to "PDS", then try out one of the programs there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:46:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:43:27
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:37:41
    What do I use to program lz mx minis?

    I'm not that familiar with LZ stuff. But try this: Go to red-line's website (http://red-line.kr/), go to "PDS", then try out one of the programs there.

    404 errors on all 4 links :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 20:06:06
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:36:03
    What do I use to program lz mx minis?

    Let's try this one more time. Try this link here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55038.0). Thanks to Photoelectric for the link :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 12 June 2014, 21:48:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 12 June 2014, 04:50:43
    Any idea where I could find images that are printable for actual size for bending cherry, costar, and/or alps stabilizer wires?  Looking for something I can use as a template for sizes and styles that I don't have in my possession.   Also, wire thickness for these would be great.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zry3CHNKgT8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zry3CHNKgT8)



    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:32:02
    Litster had a YouTube video for bending Costar wires. Is it not in the OP? I can post a link later if not, and if someone doesn't beat me to it. I'm on my mobile right now.

    Here ya go.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 13 June 2014, 07:12:56
    Has there been any DCS GBs that had a kit for dvorak layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 13 June 2014, 07:37:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 13 June 2014, 07:12:56
    Has there been any DCS GBs that had a kit for dvorak layout?

    Round 4 seemed to have one: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Doubleshot_Replacements_Round_4#DVORAK_.28Dvorak_layout.29
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:17:45
    Anybody know if the Noppoo Choc Mini still has compatibility problems with Mac?  I might get one for gaming, but I do not want to deal with those compatibility issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:21:31
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:17:45
    Anybody know if the Noppoo Choc Mini still has compatibility problems with Mac?  I might get one for gaming, but I do not want to deal with those compatibility issues.

    I think it still has chattering issues regardless of the OS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:43:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:21:31
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:17:45
    Anybody know if the Noppoo Choc Mini still has compatibility problems with Mac?  I might get one for gaming, but I do not want to deal with those compatibility issues.

    I think it still has chattering issues regardless of the OS.

    The new version supposedly fixes that
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:51:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:21:31
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:17:45
    Anybody know if the Noppoo Choc Mini still has compatibility problems with Mac?  I might get one for gaming, but I do not want to deal with those compatibility issues.

    I think it still has chattering issues regardless of the OS.

    Ok thanks.  I probably will opt for a Keycool 84 then.  I am just looking for a compact MX Black board with an arrow cluster that I can do some basic gaming.  I am also considering the Leopold 660M for this purpose, but that keyboard barely represents a space saving compared to the Keycool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:53:13
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:51:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:21:31
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:17:45
    Anybody know if the Noppoo Choc Mini still has compatibility problems with Mac?  I might get one for gaming, but I do not want to deal with those compatibility issues.

    I think it still has chattering issues regardless of the OS.

    Ok thanks.  I probably will opt for a Keycool 84 then.  I am just looking for a compact MX Black board with an arrow cluster that I can do some basic gaming.  I am also considering the Leopold 660M for this purpose, but that keyboard barely represents a space saving compared to the Keycool.

    Keycool 87. The one with genuine Cherry MX switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:55:06
    Can anyone identify the apple keyboards in these photos? Really bad quality, I know.. but it's the best I can do. There's six apple boards there, and two rubberdomes.

    Also, I know this isn't the price check thread, but if you happen to know the rough values of these boards it'd be great. If nobody does then I'll just post in the price check thread.

    (http://i.imgur.com/QRzdaC8.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:56:39
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:55:06
    Can anyone identify the apple keyboards in these photos? Really bad quality, I know.. but it's the best I can do. There's six apple boards there, and two rubberdomes.

    Also, I know this isn't the price check thread, but if you happen to know the rough values of these boards it'd be great. If nobody does then I'll just post in the price check thread.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/QRzdaC8.jpg)


    Looks like there's a M0110 and 3x M0110A there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:13:36
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:53:13
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:51:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:21:31
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:17:45
    Anybody know if the Noppoo Choc Mini still has compatibility problems with Mac?  I might get one for gaming, but I do not want to deal with those compatibility issues.

    I think it still has chattering issues regardless of the OS.

    Ok thanks.  I probably will opt for a Keycool 84 then.  I am just looking for a compact MX Black board with an arrow cluster that I can do some basic gaming.  I am also considering the Leopold 660M for this purpose, but that keyboard barely represents a space saving compared to the Keycool.

    Keycool 87. The one with genuine Cherry MX switches.

    Does the Keycool 84 not have genuine Cherry MX switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:19:41
    The new keycool boards all use Kalih switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:26:10
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:19:41
    The new keycool boards all use Kalih switches.

    While we're on the topic of Kailh switches, could you just swap out a keyboard with Kailh switches with MX switches and have it be fully functional?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:35:34
    good question

    I think so, but I'd have to see PCB pictures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:21:53
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:26:10
    While we're on the topic of Kailh switches, could you just swap out a keyboard with Kailh switches with MX switches and have it be fully functional?

    Kailh switches should be MX compatible (at least all versions I have seen so far), so yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:22:03
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:19:41
    The new keycool boards all use Kalih switches.

    Did not know that.  Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:31:23
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:55:06
    Can anyone identify the apple keyboards in these photos? Really bad quality, I know.. but it's the best I can do. There's six apple boards there, and two rubberdomes.

    Also, I know this isn't the price check thread, but if you happen to know the rough values of these boards it'd be great. If nobody does then I'll just post in the price check thread.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/QRzdaC8.jpg)


    Besides the M0110 and M0110A, there's two M0116 boards. Should either be Salmon or Orange Alps I believe. M0110 is the 60% looking board. M0110 has the J keys. The others with the num pad and the random key on above is the M0116.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:42:15
    Do all cherry switches use the same base? (Not counting plate vs PCB mounted). For example, if I have PCB mounted clear switches and plate mounted red switches, could I swap the bases to get plate mounted clear switches and PCB mounted red switches? (Swapping springs anyways so I figured I might as well save myself the work of snipping off the little tabs for now).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:43:47
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:42:15
    Do all cherry switches use the same base? (Not counting plate vs PCB mounted). For example, if I have PCB mounted clear switches and plate mounted red switches, could I swap the bases to get plate mounted clear switches and PCB mounted red switches? (Swapping springs anyways so I figured I might as well save myself the work of snipping off the little tabs for now).

    yea..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:46:03
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:42:15
    Do all cherry switches use the same base? (Not counting plate vs PCB mounted). For example, if I have PCB mounted clear switches and plate mounted red switches, could I swap the bases to get plate mounted clear switches and PCB mounted red switches? (Swapping springs anyways so I figured I might as well save myself the work of snipping off the little tabs for now).

    Yes, you can do swap as you're suggesting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 14 June 2014, 00:40:49
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:42:15
    Do all cherry switches use the same base? (Not counting plate vs PCB mounted). For example, if I have PCB mounted clear switches and plate mounted red switches, could I swap the bases to get plate mounted clear switches and PCB mounted red switches? (Swapping springs anyways so I figured I might as well save myself the work of snipping off the little tabs for now).

    Just want to add the one exception is MX lock switches, but those are a bit of a rare breed themselves.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 14 June 2014, 05:58:48
    Thanks jd and CPT for the answers :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gustavQ on Sat, 14 June 2014, 09:02:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 18:28:37
    Show Image
    Quote from: gustavQ on Thu, 12 June 2014, 18:20:25
    Hi guys,

    this is a keyboard that it is worth it to buy?

    PREH COMMANDER PC-POS C2A12L03G1

    (http://s22.postimg.org/t0ng5md2p/457029511_1x.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

    It would help way more to know what switches are in it. After doing some poking around, it seems they might be MX compatible keycaps, perhaps from WYSE, with the possibility of having the following switches: MX, MY, Keytronic, Slider over rubber dome. If you're not there in person to test it, have someone pull a keycap and take a picture. Just a glance of the top isn't that helpful and I can't recommend you buy it or not buy it until I know more. Posts I gathered information from:

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38676.msg750974#msg750974
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38676.0
    http://deskthority.net/f-o-r-s-a-l-e-f58/ugly-thin-old-yellowed-doubleshot-mx-compatible-caps-t6039.html
    http://deskthority.net/f-o-r-s-a-l-e-f58/ugly-thin-old-yellowed-doubleshot-mx-compatible-caps-t6039.html

    I asked the seller to take off the keycap and take a picture of the switches and he sent me this:

    (http://s11.postimg.org/chcev9tpr/IMG_20140613_00127.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/chcev9tpr/)

    It seems that is a rubber dome.

    Anyway, I found this ones in my basement: Unitek K-156 and a Amstrad PCW 8256 keyboard. The Unitek have cherry mx black switches.

    Having Cherry MX Black switches, is a good thing? I am really a newbie in the keyboard world. What are the difference between the switches black, red, blue, brown?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 14 June 2014, 09:12:40
    Quote from: gustavQ on Sat, 14 June 2014, 09:02:29
    It seems that is a rubber dome.

    Anyway, I found this ones in my basement: Unitek K-156 and a Amstrad PCW 8256 keyboard. The Unitek have cherry mx black switches.

    Having Cherry MX Black switches, is a good thing? I am really a newbie in the keyboard world. What are the difference between the switches black, red, blue, brown?

    Yes that's a rubberdome.

    The difference between the switches is their weight and feel. Blacks are fairly heavy and linear (meaning that they go straight down with no bump or anything), Blues are lighter and make a click noise when you press down a key and Browns have a bump you will feel while pressing them down. Reds are just blacks with a lighter spring.
    If you like it use it, if not I'm sure you would be able to sell it once you fulfill the requirements for the classifieds :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Sat, 14 June 2014, 10:39:56
    When lubing switches, do you normally wipe off the lube that is already there?

    Doesn't look like MX Reds are lubed that much by default, but the Clears I bought came with noticeable amounts of lube on the legs already.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 June 2014, 10:42:06
    Quote from: minho on Sat, 14 June 2014, 10:39:56
    When lubing switches, do you normally wipe off the lube that is already there?

    No
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 10:44:45
    Anyone know what switches were used on old TRS-80's?
    edit: just found this picture, they look kinda like m9's
    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 14 June 2014, 11:13:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 10:44:45
    Anyone know what switches were used on old TRS-80's?
    edit: just found this picture, they look kinda like m9's
    (Attachment Link)

    Look like  Alps Tee Mount to me (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_vintage_tee_mount).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 11:15:07
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 14 June 2014, 11:13:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 10:44:45
    Anyone know what switches were used on old TRS-80's?
    edit: just found this picture, they look kinda like m9's
    (Attachment Link)

    Look like  Alps Tee Mount to me (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_vintage_tee_mount).
    Ah, that's probably it, thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 14 June 2014, 12:51:37
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 10:44:45
    Anyone know what switches were used on old TRS-80's?
    edit: just found this picture, they look kinda like m9's
    (Attachment Link)

    definitely tree ALPS

    not MX compatible, unfortunately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 16:29:28
    What do the switches feel like (tactility, weight)? Tempted to try them out
    And are the rj45 connectors used on keyboards the same you can pick up in the store?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 20:23:16
    And also (last one) is there any easy way to tell if a g81 has doubleshot caps? like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G81-7000LACUS-Beige-keyboard-3-track-magnetic-swipe-/181434526188?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2a3e5729ec
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 14 June 2014, 20:24:51
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 20:23:16
    And also (last one) is there any easy way to tell if a g81 has doubleshot caps? like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G81-7000LACUS-Beige-keyboard-3-track-magnetic-swipe-/181434526188?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2a3e5729ec

    Check this (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers) out. The first letter after the numbers gives the type of printing. L = lasered, H = doubleshots, S = dyesubs. Although, there are some funny exceptions to this. For example The ESA-3000-HASRO (http://imgur.com/a/cT8QA) has dyesubs despite the H.

    Honestly you can usually tell by eye though. Light grey legends = lasered. Pitch black legends = doubleshots. Very, very, very dark grey (not quite pitch black) = dyesubs.

    There are some other dead giveaways too. Lasered keycaps will have the bars on F&J instead of scoops. They will also have 'prt scrt' and 'sys rq' + 'pause' and 'break' on the top of the keycaps. Doubleshots/dyesubs will have scooped F&J, and 'sys rq' + 'break' are side printed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 June 2014, 20:28:50
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 16:29:28
    What do the switches feel like (tactility, weight)? Tempted to try them out
    And are the rj45 connectors used on keyboards the same you can pick up in the store?

    I've never tried those particular switches. I'd guess linear but I honestly don't know and I believe those are the RJ45 connectors. You should be able to Teensy it :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 20:56:00
    Now I'm seriously considering picking up an Apple M0110. Vintage AND 60%. Doesn't get better than that :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 June 2014, 21:04:00
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 20:56:00
    Now I'm seriously considering picking up an Apple M0110. Vintage AND 60%. Doesn't get better than that :D

    I tried one of those before, I really enjoyed how it felt. Linear switches, medium to heavy actuation force, but the travel was a bit shorter than expected. Still, it was quite lovely.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 14 June 2014, 22:06:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 June 2014, 21:04:00
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 20:56:00
    Now I'm seriously considering picking up an Apple M0110. Vintage AND 60%. Doesn't get better than that :D

    I tried one of those before, I really enjoyed how it felt. Linear switches, medium to heavy actuation force, but the travel was a bit shorter than expected. Still, it was quite lovely.

    It took me some time to get used to tee mount alps the actuation point is very high.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 23:03:20
    Aaaaaand bought
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 15 June 2014, 07:40:46
    Am I allowed to post links to other keyboard forums? There seem to be news(and pics) of a new line of aluminium cases for 80% boards(Oni, Filco, QFR, Ducky TKL compatible) from TEX, available soon on mkb.com, and I don't know if I can post the link here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:08:07
    Trying to get some details on alps as they are a bit harder to understand than MX.

    I like mx browns because of the tactility. I will be trying clears soon. I would like blues if it was not for the reset of the click and the actuation point being at different places.

    What color alps switches would I like? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:32:06
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 15 June 2014, 07:40:46
    Am I allowed to post links to other keyboard forums? There seem to be news(and pics) of a new line of aluminium cases for 80% boards(Oni, Filco, QFR, Ducky TKL compatible) from TEX, available soon on mkb.com, and I don't know if I can post the link here.

    Sure, normally there shouldn't be any problem if you don't overdo it and it becomes advertising.

    Quote from: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:08:07
    Trying to get some details on alps as they are a bit harder to understand than MX.

    I like mx browns because of the tactility. I will be trying clears soon. I would like blues if it was not for the reset of the click and the actuation point being at different places.

    What color alps switches would I like?

    You should try both the Matias Clicky and Tactile, they're nice switches and you can buy them over at mechanicalkeyboards.com in 5 packs (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=52). Alps Clicky switches don't have any hysteresis like clicky MX switches afaik.
    If you end up liking the Matias Clicky you should consider getting blue Alps, they're extremly nice but of course harder to get. I can't really give a recommendation for other tactile Alps, but I know there's for example the black Alps which come in good and terrible, depending on their batch, age, use, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:37:55
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:08:07
    Trying to get some details on alps as they are a bit harder to understand than MX.

    I like mx browns because of the tactility. I will be trying clears soon. I would like blues if it was not for the reset of the click and the actuation point being at different places.

    What color alps switches would I like? 

    The 2 "classic old-school" types that I like best are orange/salmon (non-clicky) and blue (rare but wonderful) if you like clicky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:51:07
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:37:55
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:08:07
    Trying to get some details on alps as they are a bit harder to understand than MX.

    I like mx browns because of the tactility. I will be trying clears soon. I would like blues if it was not for the reset of the click and the actuation point being at different places.

    What color alps switches would I like? 

    The 2 "classic old-school" types that I like best are orange/salmon (non-clicky) and blue (rare but wonderful) if you like clicky.

    Are orange and salmon the same switch? I have seen both descriptions come up. I think some of the old apple extended II keyboard had salmon (I think).

    Any good options for blue alps donner boards? If I find blue alps, do I have to watch out for fakes of some kind?

    Thanks Blue for your answer as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:55:48
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:51:07
    Are orange and salmon the same switch? I have seen both descriptions come up. I think some of the old apple extended II keyboard had salmon (I think).

    Any good options for blue alps donner boards? If I find blue alps, do I have to watch out for fakes of some kind?

    Thanks Blue for your answer as well.

    They're not the same switch. I would recommend the Deskthority Wiki as it has lots of documentation about the various Alps switches: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL/SKCM_series
    A list of boards that come with blue Alps is here: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCM_Blue#Keyboards
    Be aware though that some of those boards come with other Alps, too (often with white Alps which are worse and not rare at all). There are some blue Alps clones, but their colour is different. You can see it in the DT Wiki entry for blue Alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:57:52
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:55:48
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:51:07
    Are orange and salmon the same switch? I have seen both descriptions come up. I think some of the old apple extended II keyboard had salmon (I think).

    Any good options for blue alps donner boards? If I find blue alps, do I have to watch out for fakes of some kind?

    Thanks Blue for your answer as well.

    They're not the same switch. I would recommend the Deskthority Wiki as it has lots of documentation about the various Alps switches: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL/SKCM_series
    A list of boards that come with blue Alps is here: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCM_Blue#Keyboards
    Be aware though that some of those boards come with other Alps, too (often with white Alps which are worse and not rare at all). There are some blue Alps clones, but their colour is different. You can see it in the DT Wiki entry for blue Alps.

    Thx
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:06:53
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:51:07
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 09:08:07
    I like mx browns because of the tactility. I will be trying clears soon. I would like blues if it was not for the reset of the click and the actuation point being at different places.

    1) What color alps switches would I like? 

    2) Are orange and salmon the same switch? I have seen both descriptions come up. I think some of the old apple extended II keyboard had salmon (I think).

    3) Any good options for blue alps donor boards? If I find blue alps, do I have to watch out for fakes of some kind?

    1) Alps switches come in a larger variety and subtleties versus MX in my opinion. You may like complicated Salmon or Orange Alps. Or you may like some of the tactile Alps clones. I thought the Salmon Alps I had felt a lot like MX Browns in terms of the lack of tactility. I don't think MX Browns are that tactile versus MX Clears. It's hard to say based on your description....and because I forgot what Orange vs Salmon Alps feel like.

    2) No they're not the same. Yes AEKIIs have Salmon Alps.

    3) Many sellers will mix Monterey Blue Alps clones with complicated blue Alps. You can check the DT wiki for the differences. I don't think they feel the same. Here is a partial list of boards with Blue Alps switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCM_Blue#Keyboards). I got mine from a Datacomp XT. When looking for Blue Alps, I found that a picture is extremely helpful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:17:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:06:53

    2) No they're not the same. Yes AEKIIs have Salmon Alps.


    AEK (Apple Extended Keyboard, usually M0115) has pink/orange/salmon Alps, as does Apple Keyboard M0110 - wrong edit M0116.

    AEK2 (Apple Extended Keyboard II, usually M3501 or M0312) has cream or white dampened Alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:20:48
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:17:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:06:53

    2) No they're not the same. Yes AEKIIs have Salmon Alps.


    AEK (Apple Extended Keyboard, usually M0115) has pink/orange/salmon Alps, as does Apple Keyboard M0110.

    AEK2 (Apple Extended Keyboard II, usually M3501 or M0312) has cream or white dampened Alps.

    DT Wiki says AEKII came in Salmon Aps too (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Extended_Keyboard_II#Switches). Probably a bit rarer. But they do exist. I agree with you on the AEK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 11:06:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:20:48
    Probably a bit rarer. But they do exist.

    Never knew that. I have had a dozen AEK2s and never seen anything but dampened.

    Were those salmons the very low serial numbers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 June 2014, 11:09:32
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 11:06:12
    Never knew that. I have had a dozen AEK2s and never seen anything but dampened.

    Were those salmons the very low serial numbers?


    No idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 15 June 2014, 11:55:20
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:17:04
    AEK (Apple Extended Keyboard, usually M0115) has pink/orange/salmon Alps, as does Apple Keyboard M0110.

    I think fohat.digs meant "as does M0116." The M0110 is the ancient one with tee mount ALPS, and certainly never came with salmon or orange ALPS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 June 2014, 11:57:28
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 15 June 2014, 11:55:20
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 15 June 2014, 10:17:04
    AEK (Apple Extended Keyboard, usually M0115) has pink/orange/salmon Alps, as does Apple Keyboard M0110.

    I think fohat.digs meant "as does M0116." The M0110 is the ancient one with tee mount ALPS, and certainly never came with salmon or orange ALPS.


    For a moment, I thought he might have meant the M0110A but I think you're right. My M0116 defintely had Pink/Salmon Alps and the M0110A had the tee mounts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 15 June 2014, 21:38:54
    What color are these switch stickers?

    (http://i.imgur.com/c64i02B.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 15 June 2014, 21:40:58
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 15 June 2014, 21:38:54
    What color are these switch stickers?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/c64i02B.jpg)


    blue or teal
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 15 June 2014, 21:41:36
    metallic blue
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 22:09:36
    Thanks for all the Alps help guys...  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 16 June 2014, 02:04:34
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 22:09:36
    Thanks for all the Alps help guys...  :)

    Have you decided what you're going to get?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 16 June 2014, 04:03:12
    Is it possible to tag someone in a post?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 16 June 2014, 04:15:03
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 16 June 2014, 04:03:12
    Is it possible to tag someone in a post?

    link their profile...other than that this isn't facebook
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 16 June 2014, 04:56:12
    Dammit. Thanks. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 16 June 2014, 06:06:18
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 16 June 2014, 02:04:34
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 15 June 2014, 22:09:36
    Thanks for all the Alps help guys...  :)

    Have you decided what you're going to get?

    I will keep my eyes open for complex blues and salmon. It will probably take a while for me to find them, so I will continue research in that time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 16 June 2014, 07:26:24
    Quote from: swill on Mon, 16 June 2014, 06:06:18
    I will keep my eyes open for complex blues and salmon.

    Nobody has convinced me that there is any substantive difference between orange and salmon.

    The orange boards I have had have often felt better than the salmons.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gustavQ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:42:08
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 14 June 2014, 09:12:40
    Quote from: gustavQ on Sat, 14 June 2014, 09:02:29
    It seems that is a rubber dome.

    Anyway, I found this ones in my basement: Unitek K-156 and a Amstrad PCW 8256 keyboard. The Unitek have cherry mx black switches.

    Having Cherry MX Black switches, is a good thing? I am really a newbie in the keyboard world. What are the difference between the switches black, red, blue, brown?

    Yes that's a rubberdome.

    The difference between the switches is their weight and feel. Blacks are fairly heavy and linear (meaning that they go straight down with no bump or anything), Blues are lighter and make a click noise when you press down a key and Browns have a bump you will feel while pressing them down. Reds are just blacks with a lighter spring.
    If you like it use it, if not I'm sure you would be able to sell it once you fulfill the requirements for the classifieds :thumb:

    I will keep it, for now. Despite I already have it for many years, I can consider it my first Cherry MX keyboard. I am going to do some modeling on it, because the keyboard have this really dirty yellow effect. Probably I will paint it with a lighter grey color and do the USB mod to bring it to my work.
    In one month I got one IBM Model M, I am still struggling to find another one with a portuguese layout to change de keycaps, for free.
    One Unitek k-156, whith Cherry MX black switches.
    And since my personal computer is a Macbook Pro, I purchased, for 27$, a AEK II. However, after some reading, probably wasn't a big deal, but I am happy to find one with ISO layout. And now I have the chance, for the same price of the AEK II, to buy a Apple standard keyboard. But I don't know if it is worth it. Is probably manufactured in Irland, because have ISO layout. What do you guys think?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:46:46
    Quote from: gustavQ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:42:08
    Now I have the chance, for the same price of the AEK II, to buy a Apple standard keyboard. But I don't know if it is worth it. Is probably manufactured in Irland, because have ISO layout.

    You have the chance to buy an AEK for $27? That's a nice price. If you like it get it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gustavQ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:58:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:46:46
    Quote from: gustavQ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:42:08
    Now I have the chance, for the same price of the AEK II, to buy a Apple standard keyboard. But I don't know if it is worth it. Is probably manufactured in Irland, because have ISO layout.

    You have the chance to buy an AEK for $27? That's a nice price. If you like it get it.

    Unfortunately, isn't the AEK, is the Apple Keyboard (aka Apple Standard Keyboard). If it was the AEK, I would buy it immediately not thinking twice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 10:00:37
    Quote from: gustavQ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:58:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:46:46
    Quote from: gustavQ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:42:08
    Now I have the chance, for the same price of the AEK II, to buy a Apple standard keyboard. But I don't know if it is worth it. Is probably manufactured in Irland, because have ISO layout.

    You have the chance to buy an AEK for $27? That's a nice price. If you like it get it.

    Unfortunately, isn't the AEK, is the Apple Keyboard (aka Apple Standard Keyboard). If it was the AEK, I would buy it immediately not thinking twice.

    Oh the M0116? I like that board as well. The switches weren't my thing but you might like they and the layout is great. I still think it's a decent price. I paid $20 for a M0116.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 10:48:06
    I think he means the AEK-looking one with rubber domes, which I would say is not worth $27.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gustavQ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 14:53:24
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 10:48:06
    I think he means the AEK-looking one with rubber domes, which I would say is not worth $27.

    The seller sent me this picture:

    (http://s23.postimg.org/9mmm63tdz/452289401_3x.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9mmm63tdz/)

    My reference was the wikipedia, comparing the pictures, it seems to me that is the one that the CPTBadAss referred, the M0116.

    Can someone give me some feedback from the cream Apls? I only tried the buckling springs from the IBM model M and the cherry mx blacks. What can I expect?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:23:45
    Quote from: gustavQ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 14:53:24
    Show Image
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 10:48:06
    I think he means the AEK-looking one with rubber domes, which I would say is not worth $27.

    The seller sent me this picture:

    (http://s23.postimg.org/9mmm63tdz/452289401_3x.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9mmm63tdz/)

    My reference was the wikipedia, comparing the pictures, it seems to me that is the one that the CPTBadAss referred, the M0116.

    Can someone give me some feedback from the cream Apls? I only tried the buckling springs from the IBM model M and the cherry mx blacks. What can I expect?

    If your M0116 in fact has Cream Alps, they're dampened tactile switches. They closest modern equivalent is the Matias Quiet switches. They'll have a bump and be relatively quiet, but no click. More info can be found here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCM_Cream_Damped).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:27:42
    Show Image
    Quote from: gustavQ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 14:53:24
    The seller sent me this picture:

    (http://s23.postimg.org/9mmm63tdz/452289401_3x.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9mmm63tdz/)

    Oops, I was thinking of the Apple Design Keyboard (http://www.applerescueofdenver.com/wp-content/uploads/apple-design-kybd-A-1.jpg). Didn't realize the M0116 is called the Apple Standard Keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:31:54
    Does anyone know of any issues present with this PCB (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.b8qRtf&id=39064510979), or tried it out before? Not interested in programmability as long as it has an fn layer enabling arrow keys and function keys and some way to control backlighting on/off (and maybe brightness, but that would just be a bonus).

    If anyone knows of any better 60% PCBs that can be purchased right now, please link also. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:32:49
    Quote from: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:31:54
    Does anyone know of any issues present with this PCB, or tried it out before? Not interested in programmability as long as it has an fn layer enabling arrow keys and function keys and some way to control backlighting on/off (and maybe brightness, but that would just be a bonus).

    Which PCB are you referring to?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:33:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:32:49
    Quote from: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:31:54
    Does anyone know of any issues present with this PCB, or tried it out before? Not interested in programmability as long as it has an fn layer enabling arrow keys and function keys and some way to control backlighting on/off (and maybe brightness, but that would just be a bonus).

    Which PCB are you referring to?

    Sorry, just edited my op with correct URL. formatting on phone is a pain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:42:26
    Quote from: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:33:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:32:49
    Quote from: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:31:54
    Does anyone know of any issues present with this PCB, or tried it out before? Not interested in programmability as long as it has an fn layer enabling arrow keys and function keys and some way to control backlighting on/off (and maybe brightness, but that would just be a bonus).

    Which PCB are you referring to?

    Sorry, just edited my op with correct URL. formatting on phone is a pain.

    That's BeastMask's FaceU PCB. The updated version, the FaceW, is being sold by sprit in his Group Buy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.0) thread (Round 2).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:55:02
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:42:26
    Quote from: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:33:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:32:49
    Quote from: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:31:54
    Does anyone know of any issues present with this PCB, or tried it out before? Not interested in programmability as long as it has an fn layer enabling arrow keys and function keys and some way to control backlighting on/off (and maybe brightness, but that would just be a bonus).

    Which PCB are you referring to?

    Sorry, just edited my op with correct URL. formatting on phone is a pain.

    That's BeastMask's FaceU PCB. The updated version, the FaceW, is being sold by sprit in his Group Buy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.0) thread (Round 2).

    Do you know of any issues for it? I would participate in the sprit GB, but my gut tells me that parts won't be shipped until next year and I would like to build my own 60% before then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 19:10:01
    Quote from: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 15:55:02
    Do you know of any issues for it? I would participate in the sprit GB, but my gut tells me that parts won't be shipped until next year and I would like to build my own 60% before then.

    I haven't heard of any issues with the FaceW.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Mon, 16 June 2014, 20:09:01
    Plz add this to FAQ.
    KTOD = Keyboard Talk of the Day
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 20:19:58
    Quote from: hasu on Mon, 16 June 2014, 20:09:01
    Plz add this to FAQ.
    KTOD = Keyboard Talk of the Day

    Added to the Glossary (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 23:38:39
    Any custom plates (openable switches) that will fit the WASD v2 for a decent price?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 06:07:56
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 23:38:39
    Any custom plates (openable switches) that will fit the WASD v2 for a decent price?
    If I'm not mistaken, v2 comes in tkl and full size. jd is running an ic for full size plates. I'm not sure if there are any easily found tkl custom plates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 08:13:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 06:07:56
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 23:38:39
    Any custom plates (openable switches) that will fit the WASD v2 for a decent price?
    If I'm not mistaken, v2 comes in tkl and full size. jd is running an ic for full size plates. I'm not sure if there are any easily found tkl custom plates.

    Oops. I guess I should have mentioned that. I have the TKL version. I suppose I can always file it of I really want to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 10:46:09
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 08:13:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 06:07:56
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 23:38:39
    Any custom plates (openable switches) that will fit the WASD v2 for a decent price?
    If I'm not mistaken, v2 comes in tkl and full size. jd is running an ic for full size plates. I'm not sure if there are any easily found tkl custom plates.

    Oops. I guess I should have mentioned that. I have the TKL version. I suppose I can always file it of I really want to.

    I don't think there are any TKL plates floating around right now

    you can always file it, like you said, or you can see if you can get one in classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 June 2014, 11:07:12
    I think whiskeytango is going to open a group buy in the (near?) future for the Universal 104/108 plate, which can be cut to work as a Universal TKL plate, as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 11:11:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 June 2014, 11:07:12
    I think whiskeytango is going to open a group buy in the (near?) future for the Universal 104/108 plate, which can be cut to work as a Universal TKL plate, as well.
    I remember he had an extra uTKL plate from the old GB, not sure if he still has it though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:42:42
    I'm thinking about grabbing the gmk dolch GB base set. How will those caps work on a filco? I'm just thinking about the costar stabilizers conflicting with the thickness of the caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:44:37
    Quote from: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:42:42
    I'm thinking about grabbing the gmk dolch GB base set. How will those caps work on a filco? I'm just thinking about the costar stabilizers conflicting with the thickness of the caps.

    they'll work fine

    Ivan's GB right?

    the legends are dumb but the set will work on a Filco

    Most sets are in "Filco layout" and this one is not an exception
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:45:56
    Quote from: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:42:42
    I'm thinking about grabbing the gmk dolch GB base set. How will those caps work on a filco? I'm just thinking about the costar stabilizers conflicting with the thickness of the caps.

    Yup, like TS said, they'll work fine if you get the base set :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:48:12
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:44:37
    Quote from: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:42:42
    I'm thinking about grabbing the gmk dolch GB base set. How will those caps work on a filco? I'm just thinking about the costar stabilizers conflicting with the thickness of the caps.

    they'll work fine

    Ivan's GB right?

    the legends are dumb but the set will work on a Filco

    Most sets are in "Filco layout" and this one is not an exception
    Why do you say the legends are dumb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:06:49
    does anyone have a list of all GMK produced caps? i'm aware of the existence of Dolch, Charred Orange, and Beige along with various modifier sets, and i'm curious if i missed anything else
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:11:02
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:06:49
    does anyone have a list of all GMK produced caps? i'm aware of the existence of Dolch, Charred Orange, and Beige along with various modifier sets, and i'm curious if i missed anything else

    I doubt one exists, because GMK makes a lot of OEM stuff for Cherry, since GMK owns the tooling

    Quote from: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:48:12
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:44:37
    Quote from: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:42:42
    I'm thinking about grabbing the gmk dolch GB base set. How will those caps work on a filco? I'm just thinking about the costar stabilizers conflicting with the thickness of the caps.

    they'll work fine

    Ivan's GB right?

    the legends are dumb but the set will work on a Filco

    Most sets are in "Filco layout" and this one is not an exception
    Why do you say the legends are dumb?

    ISO mod legends on the mods of an ANSI set, his printscreen and pause legends are incorrect sometimes as well.

    Don't get me wrong, it's a good set, I just wish the legends were correct.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:12:44
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:06:49
    does anyone have a list of all GMK produced caps? i'm aware of the existence of Dolch, Charred Orange, and Beige along with various modifier sets, and i'm curious if i missed anything else

    There's a lot more. GMK mini packs, the purple mods, CMYK are some that come to my mind right now. There's no list, but you can search the group buy subforum if you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:13:26
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:06:49
    does anyone have a list of all GMK produced caps? i'm aware of the existence of Dolch, Charred Orange, and Beige along with various modifier sets, and i'm curious if i missed anything else

    The Olivetti replica set. You can try looking through the Keycap Color archive (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49524.0), keeping in mind that the Cherry doubleshot molds are the same as the GMK molds. So essentially GMK are "new" Cherry caps. Also that archive is a work in progress.

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:44:37
    Don't get me wrong, it's a good set, I just wish the legends were correct.

    Don't be picky :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:23:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:13:26
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:44:37
    Don't get me wrong, it's a good set, I just wish the legends were correct.

    Don't be picky :P
    I think when you're spending $100+ on a set you should be picky. The legends are the reason I didn't buy a set. When trying to reach GMKs MOQ you should consider the small things like legend choice very carefully, as they can cost you a few of those valuable orders. I personally think the legends were a bad choice. The main market is ANSI users, and so proper ANSI legends would be best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:24:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:13:26
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:44:37
    Don't get me wrong, it's a good set, I just wish the legends were correct.

    Don't be picky :P


    That's what I get for hanging out with Photekq and Dubs all the time. sorry :(

    Photekq sniped what I was going to say, go figure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:29:09
    The funny thing is we're all here because we're picky. Hence the :P. Of course you should pick caps based on legends and what not. I like the new legends so I'm buying :D. I like the subtle remix.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:29:35
    to each his own
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:33:25
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 23:38:39
    Any custom plates (openable switches) that will fit the WASD v2 for a decent price?

    I have a steel universal TKL plate I could part with, PM me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:33:52
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:33:25
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 23:38:39
    Any custom plates (openable switches) that will fit the WASD v2 for a decent price?

    I have a steel universal TKL plate I could part with, PM me.

    No business in this thread please and thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:40:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:13:26
    You can try looking through the Keycap Color archive (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49524.0), keeping in mind that the Cherry doubleshot molds are the same as the GMK molds. So essentially GMK are "new" Cherry caps. Also that archive is a work in progress.
    thanks a ton. too bad it hasn't been updated in a while, but very useful information nonetheless. i'm quite surprised that SP is the main manufacturer for a majority of keysets released, compared to GMK/Cherry's 2-3 entries.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:44:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:33:52
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:33:25
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 23:38:39
    Any custom plates (openable switches) that will fit the WASD v2 for a decent price?

    I have a steel universal TKL plate I could part with, PM me.

    No business in this thread please and thanks.

    Sorry, I was trying to help him out and I was being lazy cause I am on my phone. My bad...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:55:39
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:40:28
    thanks a ton. too bad it hasn't been updated in a while, but very useful information nonetheless. i'm quite surprised that SP is the main manufacturer for a majority of keysets released, compared to GMK/Cherry's 2-3 entries.

    I don't think there's a lot missing.

    SP produced more group buys because GMK used to have a MOQ of 400, compared to the MOQ of 250 they have now (thanks to IvanIvanovich), and it was way easier to get to SPs MOQ. At least that's what I think is one of the reasons, please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:56:04
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:11:02
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:06:49
    does anyone have a list of all GMK produced caps? i'm aware of the existence of Dolch, Charred Orange, and Beige along with various modifier sets, and i'm curious if i missed anything else

    I doubt one exists, because GMK makes a lot of OEM stuff for Cherry, since GMK owns the tooling

    Quote from: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:48:12
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:44:37
    Quote from: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 16:42:42
    I'm thinking about grabbing the gmk dolch GB base set. How will those caps work on a filco? I'm just thinking about the costar stabilizers conflicting with the thickness of the caps.

    they'll work fine

    Ivan's GB right?

    the legends are dumb but the set will work on a Filco

    Most sets are in "Filco layout" and this one is not an exception
    Why do you say the legends are dumb?

    ISO mod legends on the mods of an ANSI set, his printscreen and pause legends are incorrect sometimes as well.

    Don't get me wrong, it's a good set, I just wish the legends were correct.
    What should the mods and print screen and pause keys look like? They look normal to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:03:45
    (http://technograd.tomsk.ru/img/products/new/w/z/t/5922_topl.jpg)

    See the text on the mods? This is what an ANSI set's mod legends are supposed to look like. CAPSLOCK says Caps Lock, Shifts say SHIFT and Enter says ENTER

    (http://i.imgur.com/QbptGG8.png)

    See the handbag caps lock? You could only get that legend on FR and IT sets. The lack of text on the SHIFT and Enter keys? Only on ISO sets. TAB is also weird.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:11:17
    now that you pointed it out..... >:D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:16:57
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:11:17
    now that you pointed it out..... >:D

    Time to cancel your order?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:20:34
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:16:57
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:11:17
    now that you pointed it out..... >:D

    Time to cancel your order?

    A foregone conclusion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:22:29
    Another quick question.

    MK the best place to get clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:24:00
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:22:29
    Another quick question.

    MK the best place to get clears?

    To the best of my knowledge, yes. And they're PCB mount if I remember correctly, which is more versatile than plate mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:24:37
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:24:00
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:22:29
    Another quick question.

    MK the best place to get clears?

    To the best of my knowledge, yes. And they're PCB mount if I remember correctly, which is more versatile than plate mount.

    yes and yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:27:38
    didn't they get both pcb and plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:34:23
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:27:38
    didn't they get both pcb and plate?

    you found an avatar that accurately depicts your personality
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:38:06
    Quote from: BunnyLake on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:34:23
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:27:38
    didn't they get both pcb and plate?

    you found an avatar that accurately depicts your personality

    you like to post off topic posts way too much
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:38:10
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Numeric-Keypad-Part-1396199-R2-Model-M3-/390862972288?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5b013fa580
    rubberdome?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:38:25
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:38:10
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Numeric-Keypad-Part-1396199-R2-Model-M3-/390862972288?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5b013fa580
    rubberdome?

    yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:39:20
    Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:38:25
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:38:10
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Numeric-Keypad-Part-1396199-R2-Model-M3-/390862972288?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5b013fa580
    rubberdome?

    yes
    disappointment
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: acalora on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:59:23
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 17 June 2014, 18:03:45
    Show Image
    (http://technograd.tomsk.ru/img/products/new/w/z/t/5922_topl.jpg)


    See the text on the mods? This is what an ANSI set's mod legends are supposed to look like. CAPSLOCK says Caps Lock, Shifts say SHIFT and Enter says ENTER

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/QbptGG8.png)


    See the handbag caps lock? You could only get that legend on FR and IT sets. The lack of text on the SHIFT and Enter keys? Only on ISO sets. TAB is also weird.
    Oh that's it. I didn't know that was ISO specifically. Its a shame cause I did want text mods and not symbols, do you think there'll be other chances to get sets like that, like the originative gmk dolch set? Or should I get this GB now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 19:13:46
    I know that some are planned, but I don't know specifically what sets
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Tue, 17 June 2014, 20:58:21
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 23:38:39
    Any custom plates (openable switches) that will fit the WASD v2 for a decent price?

    Not sure what you consider decent price, but if you want one ASAP, I think crabby has one on sale on classifieds (with a keyboard though).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 21:03:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:55:39
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:40:28
    thanks a ton. too bad it hasn't been updated in a while, but very useful information nonetheless. i'm quite surprised that SP is the main manufacturer for a majority of keysets released, compared to GMK/Cherry's 2-3 entries.

    I don't think there's a lot missing.

    SP produced more group buys because GMK used to have a MOQ of 400, compared to the MOQ of 250 they have now (thanks to IvanIvanovich), and it was way easier to get to SPs MOQ. At least that's what I think is one of the reasons, please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Yup, I think that's why. And I should really get working on updating that archive. Too much on my to-do list, not enough time in a day. I offer you my excuses and sincerest apologies.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 18 June 2014, 01:29:19
    Whats the keycap profile on a stock Filco?

    And it's difference with the profile on a Realforce for example?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 18 June 2014, 01:35:41
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 18 June 2014, 01:29:19
    Whats the keycap profile on a stock Filco?


    oem
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 18 June 2014, 02:14:23
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 18 June 2014, 01:29:19
    Whats the keycap profile on a stock Filco?

    And it's difference with the profile on a Realforce for example?

    The Filco has an OEM profile. OEM profiles are usually a bit higher than original Cherry/GMK/BSP caps. SP caps are lower than OEM but higher than Cherry. I don't know how Realforce caps would be in comparison to them but since RF is Topre I don't think that really matters.

    The profile should not affect key travel btw.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:35:38
    Where could I get a backplate for the Ergodox?
    AFAIK the ergodox set doesn't come with one and instead uses PCB mounted switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:39:12
    Quote from: FrostyToast on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:35:38
    Where could I get a backplate for the Ergodox?
    AFAIK the ergodox set doesn't come with one and instead uses PCB mounted switches.

    I'm not sure what you mean by backplate. If you mean a plate for the Ergodox, I believe you get one when you buy the case from Massdrop or there's a metal Edox case buy running right now.

    If the PCB is designed with the proper holes, which many PCBs are, you can use PCB mounted switches with plates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:48:53
    Quote from: FrostyToast on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:35:38
    Where could I get a backplate for the Ergodox?
    AFAIK the ergodox set doesn't come with one and instead uses PCB mounted switches.

    The middle acrylic layer of the Ergodox is essentially a plate. it's acrylic, not metal, but the switches mount on it the same way they'd mount on a regular metal plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:50:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:39:12
    If the PCB is designed with the proper holes, which many PCBs are, you can use PCB mounted switches with plates.

    It is and you can. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 18 June 2014, 17:26:42
    When doing an in place bolt mod (not fully removing the barrel plate) is it acceptable to just replace the broken rivets or better to do those first and systematically replace the rest?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:15:09
    Sweet, thanks for the info on the ErgoDox!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:38:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 June 2014, 21:03:31
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 17 June 2014, 17:55:39
    I don't think there's a lot missing.

    SP produced more group buys because GMK used to have a MOQ of 400, compared to the MOQ of 250 they have now (thanks to IvanIvanovich), and it was way easier to get to SPs MOQ. At least that's what I think is one of the reasons, please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Yup, I think that's why. And I should really get working on updating that archive. Too much on my to-do list, not enough time in a day. I offer you my excuses and sincerest apologies.
    thanks for the explaination. it's intriguing how a difference of 150 is huge (with regards to the MOQ/success of a GB), yet the fact that they get snapped right away in classifieds and personal sales would indicate otherwise. despite the popularity of mechanical/custom keyboards in recent years, i guess at the end of the day, it's still only a niche hobby and will continue to remain so for the foreseeable future. and looking forward to the archive's update, i thought it was quite comprehensive until i realized it doesn't have the more recent sets from groupbuys

    while i'm at it, allow me to ask another question: what should i know regarding acrylic vs aluminum cases? and is anodized aluminum always more desirable than regular aluminum?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:42:27
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:38:48
    What should i know regarding acrylic vs aluminum cases? and is anodized aluminum always more desirable than regular aluminum?

    Acrylic: Cheap, flexible, can crack, lightweight
    Aluminum: Heavy, it's a metal, expensive

    Anodized aluminum is desired for corrosion and wear protection as well as aesthetics.



    What's the PayPal goods fee? Is it 3.4% now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:48:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:42:27
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:38:48
    What should i know regarding acrylic vs aluminum cases? and is anodized aluminum always more desirable than regular aluminum?

    Acrylic: Cheap, flexible, can crack, lightweight
    Aluminum: Heavy, it's a metal, expensive

    Anodized aluminum is desired for corrosion and wear protection as well as aesthetics.



    What's the PayPal goods fee? Is it 3.4% now?

    Selling is 2.9% + $0.30 per sale, or less.

    Quote
    Sales within the US2.9% + $0.30 per transaction
    Discounted rate for eligible merchants and nonprofitsAs low as 2.2% based on volume
    International sales3.9% transaction fee plus a fixed fee based on currency received
    PayPal Heretm card reader2.7% when you swipe a card or 3.5% plus $0.15 for manually entered transactions

    https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:56:16
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:38:48
    thanks for the explaination. it's intriguing how a difference of 150 is huge (with regards to the MOQ/success of a GB), yet the fact that they get snapped right away in classifieds and personal sales would indicate otherwise. despite the popularity of mechanical/custom keyboards in recent years, i guess at the end of the day, it's still only a niche hobby and will continue to remain so for the foreseeable future. and looking forward to the archive's update, i thought it was quite comprehensive until i realized it doesn't have the more recent sets from groupbuys

    while i'm at it, allow me to ask another question: what should i know regarding acrylic vs aluminum cases? and is anodized aluminum always more desirable than regular aluminum?

    250 is still much as a MOQ I think. The problem is finding 250 people at once that want to purchase a certain set, without 100% knowing what the end result will look like. Once a set has been produced people see pictures of it and want it too (maybe like 50 at once though).

    Acrylic cases have some design limitations if they're layered cases (most acrylic cases are layered), so they might not look as nice. Some Koreans seem to prefer acrylic plates though as according to them the bottom out is not as hard.

    I think most aluminium cases are anodized.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:59:58
    thank you for the concise answers. concerning build quality, is acrylic still an upgrade to the plastic used by the majority of retail/commercial (not sure what the correct word is) keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:03:15
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:59:58
    thank you for the concise answers. concerning build quality, is acrylic still an upgrade to the plastic used by the majority of retail/commercial (not sure what the correct word is) keyboards?

    I don't know. I say this because I don't know what most retail boards are made from. I believe the community has experience with acrylic and polycarbonate so they stick to what they know but this is a guess on my part more than anything else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:07:23
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:59:58
    thank you for the concise answers. concerning build quality, is acrylic still an upgrade to the plastic used by the majority of retail/commercial (not sure what the correct word is) keyboards?
    I wouldn't say so. Plastic cases are generally pretty high quality. The advantage of acrylic ones is that they can be custom made at a low cost, so they can be made to house custom PCBs, or made in custom colour schemes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:26:31
    Plastic needs to be injection molded, which requires a high MOQ to be cost efficient.

    Acrylic needs low MOQ, as does CNC milling

    Layered acrylic is cheaper because plastics are cheaper than metals.

    Metal can be anodized to get different colors
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:35:48
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:26:31
    Plastic needs to be injection molded, which requires a high MOQ to be cost efficient.

    Acrylic needs low MOQ, as does CNC milling

    Layered acrylic is cheaper because plastics are cheaper than metals.

    Metal can be anodized to get different colors

    Plastic can be processed in many more ways than just injection molding

    Acrylic doesn't NEED low MOQ. It the fact that it's a sheet good that can be laser cut/2d process makes it cheap.

    CNC milling often requires HIGH MOQ to be cost effective.

    Not all plastics are cheap than metal.

    Not all metals can be anodized



    If you can't accurately answer a questions, just keep quiet in the corner with the pants on your head.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:38:58
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 June 2014, 18:59:58
    thank you for the concise answers. concerning build quality, is acrylic still an upgrade to the plastic used by the majority of retail/commercial (not sure what the correct word is) keyboards?

    depends on the case

    anything is better than the case on a DK1087, but the case on a Filco or a KUL might be better to most than an acryl case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 June 2014, 20:36:56
    [attachimg=1]

    Anyone know what this is?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 18 June 2014, 20:40:30
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 18 June 2014, 20:36:56
    (Attachment Link)

    Anyone know what this is?

    My guess would be a control board for an industrial setting with reed or hall effect switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 18 June 2014, 20:43:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 18 June 2014, 20:40:30
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 18 June 2014, 20:36:56
    (Attachment Link)

    Anyone know what this is?

    My guess would be a control board for an industrial setting with reed or hall effect switches.
    Yeah, I though from the caps it would be hall effect but they looked a little different
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 18 June 2014, 20:44:03
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 18 June 2014, 19:26:31
    Plastic needs to be injection molded, which requires a high MOQ to be cost efficient.

    Acrylic needs low MOQ, as does CNC milling

    Layered acrylic is cheaper because plastics are cheaper than metals.

    Metal can be anodized to get different colors

    Dude.  Acrylic is a plastic.  Also, please read The_Beast's comments a few times, as they are relevant.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 18 June 2014, 20:55:09
    Seriously Pacifist are you high all the time or something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:04:59
    TOP 1 LMFAO

    Okay okay serious question:

    I been working with PCB mount cherry stabs a lot, and whenever they reach my customer the bar always ****ing comes loose from the part they're supposed to clip into. Do I have a bad batch or am I retarded or what?

    I believe this has happened on 3 occasions.

    EDIT: Might not be so simple... but didn't want to make a thread for it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:58:59
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:04:59
    TOP 1 LMFAO

    Okay okay serious question:

    I been working with PCB mount cherry stabs a lot, and whenever they reach my customer the bar always ****ing comes loose from the part they're supposed to clip into. Do I have a bad batch or am I retarded or what?

    I believe this has happened on 3 occasions.

    EDIT: Might not be so simple... but didn't want to make a thread for it

    My PCB mount stabs kept popping out too.  Solved it by cutting up a small plastic card and wedging it in the foot to keep it spread open and locked.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 June 2014, 22:00:07
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:04:59
    Okay okay serious question:

    I been working with PCB mount cherry stabs a lot, and whenever they reach my customer the bar always ****ing comes loose from the part they're supposed to clip into. Do I have a bad batch or am I retarded or what?

    I believe this has happened on 3 occasions.

    EDIT: Might not be so simple... but didn't want to make a thread for it

    You might have put the inserts in backwards? I found that they stay put on one side and tend to fall out on the other.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 18 June 2014, 22:12:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 June 2014, 22:00:07
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:04:59
    Okay okay serious question:

    I been working with PCB mount cherry stabs a lot, and whenever they reach my customer the bar always ****ing comes loose from the part they're supposed to clip into. Do I have a bad batch or am I retarded or what?

    I believe this has happened on 3 occasions.

    EDIT: Might not be so simple... but didn't want to make a thread for it

    You might have put the inserts in backwards? I found that they stay put on one side and tend to fall out on the other.


    No no no guys not the black pieces, the bar keeps falling out even though I secure them both sides into the clip thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Wed, 18 June 2014, 22:51:20
    Even if it is snapped into the part circled in red, the bar still falls out?

    (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20523800/GH%20Pictures/2014-06-19a%20PCB%20Stabilizer/IMG_9141_esw.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Wed, 18 June 2014, 23:21:20
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 18 June 2014, 21:04:59
    TOP 1 LMFAO
    Okay okay serious question:
    I been working with PCB mount cherry stabs a lot, and whenever they reach my customer the bar always ****ing comes loose from the part they're supposed to clip into. Do I have a bad batch or am I retarded or what?
    I believe this has happened on 3 occasions.
    EDIT: Might not be so simple... but didn't want to make a thread for it

    I faced this one at least twice, especially for the ones were rusty so I need to use sand-paper to clean them. I think after I sanded them, the wire bars get smaller so they tend to loose out. So for your case, I think you need to check the diameter of the bar. It should be around 1/15-1/16 inch ~ 1.7-1.6mm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 01:19:43
    Is it unusual to have upside down switches on a stock keyboard? Example: my QFR window and alt key on the left side has the led placement on top and CHERRY is upside down. All other caps are right side up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 19 June 2014, 01:23:34
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 01:19:43
    Is it unusual to have upside down switches on a stock keyboard? Example: my QFR window and alt key on the left side has the led placement on top and CHERRY is upside down. All other caps are right side up.

    nowadays some boards do that for some reason....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 19 June 2014, 05:50:06
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 01:19:43
    Is it unusual to have upside down switches on a stock keyboard? Example: my QFR window and alt key on the left side has the led placement on top and CHERRY is upside down. All other caps are right side up.

    Some manufacturers do this to have the LEDs towards the top, and iirc on the GH60 Rev. A this was used to make some traces easier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 08:52:22
    Do PCB-mounted Cherry stabilizers have the same design than plate-mounted ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:25:42
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 08:52:22
    Do PCB-mounted Cherry stabilizers have the same design than plate-mounted ones?

    Parts of it (slider, wire) are identical to the plate mounted ones but the base is different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:26:04
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 08:52:22
    Do PCB-mounted Cherry stabilizers have the same design than plate-mounted ones?

    No.  They can't be use in place of each other.  PCB mount will not fit through the holes in a plate meant for plate mount, and plate mount stabilizers will not clip to the board.  There is however a hole design that will allow for both plate mount cherry and Costar which is plate mount only.  Alps stabilizers are all (that I have seen) plate mount as well.  Plus, I have yet to see anything with PCB mount Alps switches but I doubt it will happen due to the design of the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kakakowie on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:33:33
    How do I calculate required resistor values for leds when building a keyboard?

    I should have to take into account the number of leds and their voltage? Are there other factors? Is it safer just to go higher?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:36:54
    Where I can get PCB mount stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:38:32
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:36:54
    Where I can get PCB mount stabilizers?

    In the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:43:46
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:36:54
    Where I can get PCB mount stabilizers?

    Contact YUIOP. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:43:58
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:36:54
    Where I can get PCB mount stabilizers?

    You can get here :
    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:44:00
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:38:32
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:36:54
    Where I can get PCB mount stabilizers?

    In the OP.

    I just found this (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html), anyone has experience with them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:46:54
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:44:00
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:38:32
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:36:54
    Where I can get PCB mount stabilizers?

    In the OP.

    I just found this (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html), anyone has experience with them?

    You'll have to pay $9 + $25 shipping for those. YUIOP will sell some to you for $12 shipped CONUS.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56052.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:50:21
    Though I love GON, shipping from Korea is nuts

    listen to epzy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:52:30
    Quote from: kakakowie on Thu, 19 June 2014, 09:33:33
    1) How do I calculate required resistor values for leds when building a keyboard?

    2) I should have to take into account the number of leds and their voltage? Are there other factors? Is it safer just to go higher?

    1) Ohm's Law

    2) Check out this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 19 June 2014, 11:25:40
    Where can I find a list of all the badges?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 June 2014, 11:28:19
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 19 June 2014, 11:25:40
    Where can I find a list of all the badges?

    Badges?

    I don't follow
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:39:08
    What are the differences between Lightsaver v1 and v2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:42:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:39:08
    What are the differences between Lightsaver v1 and v2?

    the case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:43:31
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:42:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:39:08
    What are the differences between Lightsaver v1 and v2?

    the case

    That's great.

    What's different about the case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:55:28
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:43:31
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:42:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:39:08
    What are the differences between Lightsaver v1 and v2?

    the case

    That's great.

    What's different about the case?

    the shape  :blank:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 19 June 2014, 17:04:35
    I have SP doubleshots caps without crossbars.  This is a big problem since the crossbar on other keycaps they uniform the length from the o-ring.  For example for number row I put two 1.5 mm thick o-rings with no dampening or shortening effect and putting on the 3rd the damp kicks in but the shortening effect is huge and too much.  This is a big problem.  Anyone has a solution for this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 June 2014, 17:30:33
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 19 June 2014, 11:25:40
    Where can I find a list of all the badges?

    What badges are you referring to.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:39:08
    What are the differences between Lightsaver v1 and v2?

    Think the V1 came in both acrylic and metal. V2 only came in metal and has some PCB updates and case design updates. You can check out more info:
    - Duck0113's website on the Lightsavers (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/LIGHT%20SAVER)
    - Post your Lightsaver thread, seems to focus on V1 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0)
    - Lightsaver V2 GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.0)


    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 19 June 2014, 17:04:35
    I have SP doubleshots caps without crossbars.  This is a big problem since the crossbar on other keycaps they uniform the length from the o-ring.  For example for number row I put two 1.5 mm thick o-rings with no dampening or shortening effect and putting on the 3rd the damp kicks in but the shortening effect is huge and too much.  This is a big problem.  Anyone has a solution for this?

    Could try designing some 3D printed inserts that act like crossbars and get them printed at Shapeways or try combining EK's soft-landing pads with them. You can also try and find rubber mats and punching out spacers similar the to the o2dazone HHKB mod but have them fit for MX.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: acalora on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:51:20
    Just curious, what does everyone think about scooped F and J keys vs nubbed? I've heard only good things about scoops so far, what do you guys think?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:52:07
    Quote from: acalora on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:51:20
    Just curious, what does everyone think about scooped F and J keys vs nubbed? I've heard only good things about scoops so far, what do you guys think?

    I love scoops
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:52:37
    Quote from: acalora on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:51:20
    Just curious, what does everyone think about scooped F and J keys vs nubbed? I've heard only good things about scoops so far, what do you guys think?

    Despite my name, scoops are easier to find and use for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:56:38
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:42:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:39:08
    What are the differences between Lightsaver v1 and v2?

    the case

    Honestly, you're better off saving the time and letting someone else answer the questions in here. 

    Like this guy.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 June 2014, 17:30:33
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:39:08
    What are the differences between Lightsaver v1 and v2?

    Think the V1 came in both acrylic and metal. V2 only came in metal and has some PCB updates and case design updates. You can check out more info:
    - Duck0113's website on the Lightsavers (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/LIGHT%20SAVER)
    - Post your Lightsaver thread, seems to focus on V1 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0)
    - Lightsaver V2 GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.0)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 June 2014, 22:49:44
    Enough. You all are the prettiest princess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:51:56
    What sizes of stabilizer wires are the most difficult to purchase a la cart?  Assuming standard sizes of 2u, 6.25, and 7u.  Looking for answers in both cherry and costar. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:57:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:51:56
    What sizes of stabilizer wires are the most difficult to purchase a la cart?  Assuming standard sizes of 2u, 6.25, and 7u.  Looking for answers in both cherry and costar.

    6.25x and 7x have been hard to find for Cherry wires. Costar 6.25x can be found on WASD, not sure about 2x and 7x. I haven't looked at buying Costar wires outside of WASD or the classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 20 June 2014, 08:00:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:57:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:51:56
    What sizes of stabilizer wires are the most difficult to purchase a la cart?  Assuming standard sizes of 2u, 6.25, and 7u.  Looking for answers in both cherry and costar.

    6.25x and 7x have been hard to find for Cherry wires. Costar 6.25x can be found on WASD, not sure about 2x and 7x. I haven't looked at buying Costar wires outside of WASD or the classifieds.

    Thanks for the info.  I figured if I was going to make wires I should make the ones that can't be found or are difficult/ expensive to ship.  At least cherry wires are easier but tighter tolerance on bend location.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 June 2014, 09:56:38
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 20 June 2014, 08:00:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:57:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:51:56
    What sizes of stabilizer wires are the most difficult to purchase a la cart?  Assuming standard sizes of 2u, 6.25, and 7u.  Looking for answers in both cherry and costar.

    6.25x and 7x have been hard to find for Cherry wires. Costar 6.25x can be found on WASD, not sure about 2x and 7x. I haven't looked at buying Costar wires outside of WASD or the classifieds.

    Thanks for the info.  I figured if I was going to make wires I should make the ones that can't be found or are difficult/ expensive to ship.  At least cherry wires are easier but tighter tolerance on bend location.

    You're exactly right concerning the Cherry wires being easier to bend, but tighter on the tolerance of the bend location.

    Cherry wires are easy to find in 2x sizes; somewhat rare at the moment, but available in 7x and 8x sizes; and almost nonexistent in 6.25x.

    Costar have only ever been available for purchase in 6.25x size. All 7x Costar wires in existence have been custom bent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:26:31
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 June 2014, 09:56:38
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 20 June 2014, 08:00:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:57:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:51:56
    What sizes of stabilizer wires are the most difficult to purchase a la cart?  Assuming standard sizes of 2u, 6.25, and 7u.  Looking for answers in both cherry and costar.

    6.25x and 7x have been hard to find for Cherry wires. Costar 6.25x can be found on WASD, not sure about 2x and 7x. I haven't looked at buying Costar wires outside of WASD or the classifieds.

    Thanks for the info.  I figured if I was going to make wires I should make the ones that can't be found or are difficult/ expensive to ship.  At least cherry wires are easier but tighter tolerance on bend location.

    You're exactly right concerning the Cherry wires being easier to bend, but tighter on the tolerance of the bend location.

    Cherry wires are easy to find in 2x sizes; somewhat rare at the moment, but available in 7x and 8x sizes; and almost nonexistent in 6.25x.

    Costar have only ever been available for purchase in 6.25x size. All 7x Costar wires in existence have been custom bent.

    I got 6.25 and 7 (as well as a bunch of 2) unit cherry wires with my 5 piece sets from Sprit. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:54:04
    what is wet sanding? any tutorials/guides for it?
    what painting method should i use if i just want to paint my keyboard to a solid colour?
    painting guide that is very very detailed?
    solder sucker + soldering iron to desolder 87 switches, my first project, am i being ambitious?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xavierblak on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:58:45
    Quote from: acalora on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:51:20
    Just curious, what does everyone think about scooped F and J keys vs nubbed? I've heard only good things about scoops so far, what do you guys think?

    You'll probably have to try them yourself. I thought I'd like scoops before I tried them but after I did I found out I preferred nubs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 20 June 2014, 12:37:26
    Quote from: frosty on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:54:04
    what is wet sanding? any tutorials/guides for it?
    what painting method should i use if i just want to paint my keyboard to a solid colour?
    painting guide that is very very detailed?
    solder sucker + soldering iron to desolder 87 switches, my first project, am i being ambitious?
    Photoelectric has got you covered for a painting guide, check this thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44191
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:03:17
    Quote from: frosty on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:54:04
    solder sucker + soldering iron to desolder 87 switches, my first project, am i being ambitious?

    Not really - just make sure your iron isn't too hot that you burn off the solder pads, and don't heat the PCB too long or you could run into that problem (I accidentally did this :()
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:05:56
    Quote from: frosty on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:54:04
    1) what is wet sanding? any tutorials/guides for it?

    2) solder sucker + soldering iron to desolder 87 switches, my first project, am i being ambitious?

    1) Wet sanding is putting water on a part then sanding the part with sand paper. I'm sure YouTube has lots of videos on it but it's pretty self explanatory.

    2) Not at all. That was my first project in keyboards as well. There's a lot of good information on this site, such as the living soldering thread and WhiteFireDragon's videos, as well as on YouTube.

    Quote from: acalora on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:51:20
    Just curious, what does everyone think about scooped F and J keys vs nubbed? I've heard only good things about scoops so far, what do you guys think?


    I prefer nubs or the little lines over scooped F and J. I find I can't locate the homerow as fast with the scoops. However, GMK/Cherry caps feel so good I just put up with scoops.

    Quote from: minho on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:03:17
    Quote from: frosty on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:54:04
    solder sucker + soldering iron to desolder 87 switches, my first project, am i being ambitious?

    Not really - just make sure your iron isn't too hot that you burn off the solder pads, and don't heat the PCB too long or you could run into that problem (I accidentally did this :()

    Don't worry! You're not the first or last person to pull pads or burn your PCB!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:07:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:05:56

    Quote from: acalora on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:51:20
    Just curious, what does everyone think about scooped F and J keys vs nubbed? I've heard only good things about scoops so far, what do you guys think?

    I prefer nubs or the little lines over scooped F and J. However, GMK/Cherry caps feel so good I just put up with scoops.


    I agree with this

    The only reason I use scoops is because I love GMK
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:08:10
    skoops4lyfe
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:22:06
    Quote from: frosty on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:54:04
    solder sucker + soldering iron to desolder 87 switches, my first project, am i being ambitious?

    Here are a few tips I wish someone had given me before my first desoldering project:

    - If it's a dual sided, thick PCB, leave the tip of the iron on the joint for a full 1-2 seconds (with temp around 600f) to ensure all of the solder liquifies. This will make it suck out much easier.

    - If you are having trouble with a joint, heat it and add fresh solder, then attempt to remove again. works much better.

    - You will probably have many switches where you remove 95% of the solder, but one or two of the pins are still stuck to the pad by a tiny amount of solder (again, mostly with double sided PCBs). If this happens, use the hot iron tip to free the pin while you pull the switch from the other side. If you're unlucky, two pins may do this at once, and you'll have to go back and forth between them. Just don't use force, or you'll pull out the copper trace and have a bigger problem.

    Of course, if anyone wants to suggest even better techniques than these, go for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:24:14
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:22:06
    Quote from: frosty on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:54:04
    solder sucker + soldering iron to desolder 87 switches, my first project, am i being ambitious?
    Of course, if anyone wants to suggest even better techniques than these, go for it.

    I watched WFD's videos like twice before I did my project and learned what you mentioned from the videos. There's one where he does an ergo-clear mod which was extremely helpful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:33:15
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:22:06
    Quote from: frosty on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:54:04
    solder sucker + soldering iron to desolder 87 switches, my first project, am i being ambitious?

    Here are a few tips I wish someone had given me before my first desoldering project:

    - If it's a dual sided, thick PCB, leave the tip of the iron on the joint for a full 1-2 seconds (with temp around 600f) to ensure all of the solder liquifies. This will make it suck out much easier.

    - If you are having trouble with a joint, heat it and add fresh solder, then attempt to remove again. works much better.

    - You will probably have many switches where you remove 95% of the solder, but one or two of the pins are still stuck to the pad by a tiny amount of solder (again, mostly with double sided PCBs). If this happens, use the hot iron tip to free the pin while you pull the switch from the other side. If you're unlucky, two pins may do this at once, and you'll have to go back and forth between them. Just don't use force, or you'll pull out the copper trace and have a bigger problem.

    Of course, if anyone wants to suggest even better techniques than these, go for it.

    Those are good tips. You should post that in The Living Soldering Thread. I'm sure we have said those things there before, but a reminder is always good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:39:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:24:14
    I watched WFD's videos like twice before I did my project and learned what you mentioned from the videos. There's one where he does an ergo-clear mod which was extremely helpful.

    I'll have to check those out. I got the fresh solder tip from mkawa, the others were trial-and-error whilst borking my Kingsaver PCB. No regrets though, the experience (and exp from repair job) was invaluable.

    On that note, I'll add one other thing. You should expect to have some f'ups on this keyboard. It's fairly likely you will lift a pad or two or damage a trace. If that happens, the most important thing is just to NOT MAKE IT WORSE and just keep your cool. If you start getting frustrated, just set it down, come to GH for some advice, and return once you are focused again. You'll be able to repair your f'ups as long as you don't compound them by making angry soldering mistakes.

    If you can't handle the idea of having some bubus on this keyboard, you better find another one to practice with first.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:33:15
    Those are good tips. You should post that in The Living Soldering Thread. I'm sure we have said those things there before, but a reminder is always good.

    Roger that, will do it now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:46:22
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:39:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:24:14
    I watched WFD's videos like twice before I did my project and learned what you mentioned from the videos. There's one where he does an ergo-clear mod which was extremely helpful.

    I'll have to check those out. I got the fresh solder tip from mkawa, the others were trial-and-error whilst borking my Kingsaver PCB. No regrets though, the experience (and exp from repair job) was invaluable.

    Haha, I think I have three meh PCBs which I did all my trial-and-errors on. I prefer learning from doing/trying/breaking things so it works out for me. And it makes for funny stories and possibly unsellable keyboards :).

    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:39:01
    On that note, I'll add one other thing. You should expect to have some f'ups on this keyboard. It's fairly likely you will lift a pad or two or damage a trace. If that happens, the most important thing is just to NOT MAKE IT WORSE and just keep your cool. If you start getting frustrated, just set it down, come to GH for some advice, and return once you are focused again. You'll be able to repair your f'ups as long as you don't compound them by making angry soldering mistakes.

    If you can't handle the idea of having some bubus on this keyboard, you better find another one to practice with first.

    Yeah don't be like me and freak out for an hour guys. Most likely someone has experienced the problem before and will know how to fix it. Or you can figure it out yourself but only when you're calm. Don't be like me and rush builds then wonder why they're always ****ed up lol.

    And it doesn't have to be a keyboard to practice on. Old electronics like VCRs can be helpful just to get comfortable with soldering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:48:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:46:22
    And it doesn't have to be a keyboard to practice on. Old electronics like VCRs can be helpful just to get comfortable with soldering.

    Oh, hell yeah. If this is the first time you're plugging in your soldering iron, don't start with a keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:15:33
    Is there any way for me to get this anymore??? http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/andrelyn/DSC_0531.jpg

    I'm liking the Dolch and Retro color schemes, and the traditional mods (Hyper,Super,Meta). I wish I could find an active buy for something with them :0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:16:32
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:15:33
    Is there any way for me to get this anymore??? http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/andrelyn/DSC_0531.jpg

    I'm liking the Dolch and Retro color schemes, and the traditional mods (Hyper,Super,Meta). I wish I could find an active buy for something with them :0

    classifieds, but its kind of hard to find nowadays
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:17:27
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:15:33
    Is there any way for me to get this anymore??? http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/andrelyn/DSC_0531.jpg

    I'm liking the Dolch and Retro color schemes, and the traditional mods (Hyper,Super,Meta). I wish I could find an active buy for something with them :0

    It's on back order from SP... http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-dolch-set-base-set-110-total-keys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:18:23
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:15:33
    Is there any way for me to get this anymore??? http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/andrelyn/DSC_0531.jpg

    I'm liking the Dolch and Retro color schemes, and the traditional mods (Hyper,Super,Meta). I wish I could find an active buy for something with them :0

    That's Round 3 from DT and 7Bit right? I haven't seen one of those sets for sale in a while. Could ask 7Bit or check some classifieds.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:17:27
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:15:33
    Is there any way for me to get this anymore??? http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/andrelyn/DSC_0531.jpg

    I'm liking the Dolch and Retro color schemes, and the traditional mods (Hyper,Super,Meta). I wish I could find an active buy for something with them :0

    It's on back order from SP... http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-dolch-set-base-set-110-total-keys

    But isn't the set Smasher816 posted DCS? Different profile. Not sure if that matters or not but I thought I'd point it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:19:52
    smasher wants round 3 dolch

    intelli linked DSA dolch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:21:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:18:23
    But isn't the set Smasher816 posted DCS? Different profile. Not sure if that matters or not but I thought I'd point it out.

    Looks like it, my mistake. Smasher, the SP buy I posted is DSA profile, in which all keys have the same (flat) profile.

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:19:52
    smasher wants round 3 dolch

    intelli linked DSA dolch

    For my own benefit, what are the differences, besides the profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:23:28
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:21:39
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:19:52
    smasher wants round 3 dolch

    intelli linked DSA dolch

    For my own benefit, what are the differences, besides the profile?

    If I recall correctly, the text on the bottom modifiers and the legends differ from the two buys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:39:53
    correct
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:41:50
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:39:53
    correct

    Can I have my gold star now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:43:34
    Thanks for all the quick replies guys. I might end up getting the SP, DSA one. The color scheme is very nice. I would have liked the different mod names but it is not a deal breaker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 June 2014, 15:03:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:41:50
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:39:53
    correct

    Can I have my gold star now?

    Illuminati approves
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 16:15:51
    How do you Ctlr Alt Del with a 60% and alt F4? Do you have to hold down addition Fn keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 June 2014, 16:18:11
    Probably. Depends on the layout.

    If you're just trying to get task manager, you can just do CTRL+SHIFT+ESC
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 18:25:13
    Yeah, depends on the layout, but for most the functions correspond with the number row (4=f4)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:11:25
    all these problems seem to point towards dual sided pcbs. mine is single sided, any tips/things to look out for for that? what temperature would be appropriate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:14:32
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:11:25
    all these problems seem to point towards dual sided pcbs. mine is single sided, any tips/things to look out for for that? what temperature would be appropriate?

    problem for what? Desoldering? You don't need to stay pressed down more than a second
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 06:27:39
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:14:32
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:11:25
    all these problems seem to point towards dual sided pcbs. mine is single sided, any tips/things to look out for for that? what temperature would be appropriate?

    problem for what? Desoldering? You don't need to stay pressed down more than a second

    spoiling the pcb etc. temps wise what you gh recommend?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 07:37:03
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 06:27:39
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:14:32
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:11:25
    all these problems seem to point towards dual sided pcbs. mine is single sided, any tips/things to look out for for that? what temperature would be appropriate?

    problem for what? Desoldering? You don't need to stay pressed down more than a second

    spoiling the pcb etc. temps wise what you gh recommend?
    Set your temp at 350c (662F) and get a genuine Soldapult and you should have no problems. For lead-free desoldering you may have to increase the temp.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 21 June 2014, 08:46:31
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:11:25
    all these problems seem to point towards dual sided pcbs. mine is single sided, any tips/things to look out for for that? what temperature would be appropriate?

    Single sided PCBs like the QFR are tricky. I really didn't enjoy working on that board. If you put your iron to the board to desolder, and the joint doesn't melt after a second touch, lift your iron and wait. Go slow and be patient so you don't introduce too much heat into the board.

    And I agree with what MJ45 said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 10:54:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 21 June 2014, 08:46:31
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:11:25
    all these problems seem to point towards dual sided pcbs. mine is single sided, any tips/things to look out for for that? what temperature would be appropriate?

    Single sided PCBs like the QFR are tricky. I really didn't enjoy working on that board. If you put your iron to the board to desolder, and the joint doesn't melt after a second touch, lift your iron and wait. Go slow and be patient so you don't introduce too much heat into the board.

    And I agree with what MJ45 said.

    don't understand why they are tricky. and the soldapullt we are talking about is the edsyn one no? it doesn't ship to me (both edsyn's website and amazon). Sigh singaporean problems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 21 June 2014, 10:58:57
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 21 June 2014, 10:54:52
    1) don't understand why they are tricky.

    2) and the soldapullt we are talking about is the edsyn one no? it doesn't ship to me (both edsyn's website and amazon). Sigh singaporean problems.

    1) The PCBs are tricky because they're thin so they can't handle or absorb as much heat as the thicker PCBs. You're more prone to lifting pads, burns, and putting holes in the PCB. Like I suggested, watch a few videos on soldering (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySzh89tZUQE) and read the Living Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0). You can only ask so many questions, the easiest way to get into and learn about soldering is to just do it.

    2) Buy your Edsyn soldapult from mkawa's Geekhackers.org (http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/soldering-tools-and-supplies). He'll ship to you and has other tools.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:49:22
    Is there any place to get Cherry Stabs at the moment besides Gon's Keyboard works?  Mouser seems to be on back order, and it will cost $34 total for me to get shipping from Gon in Korea.  All I need is some stabilizers and a wire for a 7x spacebar...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:59:28
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:49:22
    Is there any place to get Cherry Stabs at the moment besides Gon's Keyboard works?  Mouser seems to be on back order, and it will cost $34 total for me to get shipping from Gon in Korea.  All I need is some stabilizers and a wire for a 7x spacebar...

    Welcome to the club... :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 21 June 2014, 14:03:43
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:59:28
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:49:22
    Is there any place to get Cherry Stabs at the moment besides Gon's Keyboard works?  Mouser seems to be on back order, and it will cost $34 total for me to get shipping from Gon in Korea.  All I need is some stabilizers and a wire for a 7x spacebar...

    Welcome to the club... :(

    I figured this was a common issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 21 June 2014, 14:03:51
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:49:22
    Is there any place to get Cherry Stabs at the moment besides Gon's Keyboard works?  Mouser seems to be on back order, and it will cost $34 total for me to get shipping from Gon in Korea.  All I need is some stabilizers and a wire for a 7x spacebar...

    Here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56052.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 21 June 2014, 14:29:40
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 21 June 2014, 14:03:51
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:49:22
    Is there any place to get Cherry Stabs at the moment besides Gon's Keyboard works?  Mouser seems to be on back order, and it will cost $34 total for me to get shipping from Gon in Korea.  All I need is some stabilizers and a wire for a 7x spacebar...

    Here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56052.0

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:49:21
    What switches are these?
    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:50:02
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:49:21
    What switches are these?
    (Attachment Link)

    I don't know but those red switches go really well with the red numpad
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:54:28
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:59:28
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 13:49:22
    Is there any place to get Cherry Stabs at the moment besides Gon's Keyboard works?  Mouser seems to be on back order, and it will cost $34 total for me to get shipping from Gon in Korea.  All I need is some stabilizers and a wire for a 7x spacebar...

    Welcome to the club... :(

    Melvang is looking to make some 7x wires. You can get the stabilizer inserts on Mouser.

    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:49:21
    What switches are these?
    (Attachment Link)

    Hm, the color isn't the same but the sliders look the same. I think they might be Olivetti conductive rubber domes (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Olivetti_dome_with_slider). Reminds me a little of the Topre switches. If you can get that, you should and take it apart for keyboard science.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:58:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:54:28
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:49:21
    What switches are these?
    (Attachment Link)

    Hm, the color isn't the same but the sliders look the same. I think they might be Olivetti conductive rubber domes (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Olivetti_dome_with_slider). Reminds me a little of the Topre switches. If you can get that, you should and take it apart for keyboard science.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/191085843211?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    The seller seems to like putting up these keyboards at pretty steep prices
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:59:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:58:38
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/191085843211?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    The seller seems to like putting up these keyboards at pretty steep prices

    Oh yeah, I know that seller. Cool boards but the prices are too high imo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gcb on Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:20:51
    please, add a warning under "modifications" on the stick that most plate mounted keyboards are NOT possible to change the MX steam...

    i got one with plate after reading all the threads here about how easy it is to remove the top without desoldering... only to find out later that it only works with the fancy custom plates people here use :/

    hopefully it will help other people not make the same dumb mistake i did

    and thanks a lot for this thread! it is greatly useful and appreciated!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:29:12
    Quote from: gcb on Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:20:51
    please, add a warning under "modifications" on the stick that most plate mounted keyboards are NOT possible to change the MX steam...

    i got one with plate after reading all the threads here about how easy it is to remove the top without desoldering... only to find out later that it only works with the fancy custom plates people here use :/

    hopefully it will help other people not make the same dumb mistake i did

    and thanks a lot for this thread! it is greatly useful and appreciated!

    It's already in the OP.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_HH
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:30:46
    Quote from: gcb on Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:20:51
    please, add a warning under "modifications" on the stick that most plate mounted keyboards are NOT possible to change the MX steam...

    i got one with plate after reading all the threads here about how easy it is to remove the top without desoldering... only to find out later that it only works with the fancy custom plates people here use :/

    hopefully it will help other people not make the same dumb mistake i did

    and thanks a lot for this thread! it is greatly useful and appreciated!

    Most of the time it is mentioned that you need a custom plate for exchanging switches. This also mentioned and explained in detail in my "Beginner guide to keyboard modding" which is also linked in the FAQ.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:26:34
    Would the Duck Poker case fit a 38gt or FaceW?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:33:51
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:26:34
    Would the Duck Poker case fit a 38gt or FaceW?

    All of those should be Poker compatible, so yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 23 June 2014, 09:59:56
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:33:51
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 23 June 2014, 08:26:34
    Would the Duck Poker case fit a 38gt or FaceW?

    All of those should be Poker compatible, so yes.
    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: burnmyshadow on Mon, 23 June 2014, 11:27:36
    Hello guys

    First of all, I'm glad that there's a such great website for keyboard lovers, awesome!

    Today I have recieved two identical retired keyboards from my friend:

    [attachimg=1]
    [attachimg=2]

    One of them works pretty okay (some keys are stuck though), other is not: some function keys aren't responding, numeric pad is almost dead but it responding at least. I have opened cover of the better working kb, removed keys (they are bathing in hot water right now), and I really confused: I expected some springs or something like that but from the first look inside there are just rubbers. Are these keyboards rubber dome? Still haven't figured how to remove that black plastic panel so I can't really say if there are only rubbers. ICL wich logo can be seen is IT-company in my city: http://www.icl.ru/about they are assembled computers someday in the past.

    So can somebody help me to identify the model of keyboards I recieved, maybe that sticker on back will help. Or are they just noname cheap stuff and there are no sense of repairing them? Also, this keyboards are recognize only 3 keys pressed together can I do something about it?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 11:50:33
    Quote from: burnmyshadow on Mon, 23 June 2014, 11:27:36
    1. I expected some springs or something like that but from the first look inside there are just rubbers. Are these keyboards rubber dome?

    2. Or are they just noname cheap stuff and there are no sense of repairing them?

    3. Also, this keyboards are recognize only 3 keys pressed together can I do something about it?

    1. Yes, those are rubberdomes.
    2. Yes.
    3. This is called key rollover (or in short KRO). No you can't change that without some serious modding.

    And welcome to Geekhack!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: burnmyshadow on Mon, 23 June 2014, 12:37:07
    Thanks for a quick reply!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:11:58
    How much longer do the screws need to be if i wanna add a plate to my keyboard???

    Is there an instruction thread or page on how i should add a plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:15:17
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:11:58
    How much longer do the screws need to be if i wanna add a plate to my keyboard???

    Is there an instruction thread or page on how i should add a plate?

    About 0cm. The screws usually don't screw onto the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:18:05
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:15:17
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:11:58
    How much longer do the screws need to be if i wanna add a plate to my keyboard???

    Is there an instruction thread or page on how i should add a plate?

    About 0cm. The screws usually don't screw onto the plate.

    Right so you mean the screws go right through and they're still only holding the pcb to the case? Like, the only thing holding the plate in place is the mass of switches?

    Also, what's the thing about plate and pcb mounted stabs??

    I'm using a KBT pure right now. Should I look out for plate mounted stabs and switch? Or will the default stabs be usable?

    I realise adding a plate is more work than I thought and I've overlooked so many things
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:21:25
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:18:05
    1. Right so you mean the screws go right through and they're still only holding the pcb to the case? Like, the only thing holding the plate in place is the mass of switches?

    2. Also, what's the thing about plate and pcb mounted stabs??

    3. I'm using a KBT pure right now. Should I look out for plate mounted stabs and switch? Or will the default stabs be usable?

    1. Yes, see here for example: http://i.imgur.com/P0qLx.jpg
    It is very stable though since as you said its a mass of switches, you distibute the force of each keypress on all switches instead of just one.

    2. Please specify?

    3. Which stabilizers you can use depends on the plate. You can still use your PCB mounted switches though, independant of the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:22:19
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:18:05
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:15:17
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:11:58
    How much longer do the screws need to be if i wanna add a plate to my keyboard???

    Is there an instruction thread or page on how i should add a plate?

    About 0cm. The screws usually don't screw onto the plate.

    Right so you mean the screws go right through and they're still only holding the pcb to the case? Like, the only thing holding the plate in place is the mass of switches?

    Also, what's the thing about plate and pcb mounted stabs??

    I'm using a KBT pure right now. Should I look out for plate mounted stabs and switch? Or will the default stabs be usable?

    I realise adding a plate is more work than I thought and I've overlooked so many things

    There is a hole in the plate. Screw goes through the hole, never touching the plate, and screws the pcb to the case.

    The switches hold the plate in place, each one sorta snaps in place.

    Not very familiar with the pure, but I assume that its PCB mount. Plate mount or PCB mount is fine if you add a plate, the PCB should allow both. Default is perfectly fine, in fact, I recommend the default PCB mounts because some universal plates are built for PCB mount stabs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:37:59
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:18:05
    1) Also, what's the thing about plate and pcb mounted stabs??
    2) Should I look out for plate mounted stabs and switch? Or will the default stabs be usable?

    1) What do you mean by this? If you're asking if there's a difference between the two stabilizers, they have different housings.

    2) Stabilizers depend on the board. Since you have a PCB mounted board with the Pure, your PCB will have the holes which will accept the PCB mounted stabilizer pieces.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:22:19
    There is a hole in the plate. Screw goes through the hole, never touching the plate, and screws the pcb to the case.

    The bottom of the screw or bolt head touches the plate. And I've never seen screws that bolt into PCBs. The switch legs, solder joints, and the fit between the switch and plates hold the plate to the PCB. The plate then gets bolted to the bottom of the case in most of the keyboards I've seen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:46:43
    Thanks for the reply guys :) And thanks for the picture BlueBar. Seems like PCB Cherry stabs would work just fine for a plate mount as they're still mounted to the pcb without "touching" the plate.

    What i wanted to know about the stabs was if there was a difference between plate and pcb mounted stabs and whether i would need to change stabs if i wanted to add a plate to my pure. And also, are pcb/plate stabs interchangable? I don't think so right?

    @CPT, I think the picture that bluebar posted, the bottom of the screw head doesnt touch the plate. It just goes right through and directly mounts the pcb to the case. But thanks for your reply too :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:52:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:37:59
    The bottom of the screw or bolt head touches the plate. And I've never seen screws that bolt into PCBs. The switch legs, solder joints, and the fit between the switch and plates hold the plate to the PCB. The plate then gets bolted to the bottom of the case in most of the keyboards I've seen.

    It's usual for 60%s that the plate is not connected to the screws, except for some customs:
    http://oi43.tinypic.com/23ud2r8.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/RG9LFA8.jpg

    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:46:43
    1. Seems like PCB Cherry stabs would work just fine for a plate mount as they're still mounted to the pcb without "touching" the plate.

    2. What i wanted to know about the stabs was if there was a difference between plate and pcb mounted stabs and whether i would need to change stabs if i wanted to add a plate to my pure. And also, are pcb/plate stabs interchangable? I don't think so right?

    1. If you use a thick acrylic plate there might be issues, but I'm not sure. Usually you should be fine. Make sure to lube and clip them while you're at it!
    2. They're not interchangable as they have a different base.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:52:37
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:46:43
    @CPT, I think the picture that bluebar posted, the bottom of the screw head doesnt touch the plate. It just goes right through and directly mounts the pcb to the case. But thanks for your reply too :)

    Ah I didn't see the picture. Was just focused on the text. I apologize. But I haven't seen that design very often. Typically the plates I've seen are bolted to the case somehow. I've also mostly worked on TKL and full sized boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:54:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:52:37
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:46:43
    @CPT, I think the picture that bluebar posted, the bottom of the screw head doesnt touch the plate. It just goes right through and directly mounts the pcb to the case. But thanks for your reply too :)

    Ah I didn't see the picture. Was just focused on the text. I apologize. But I haven't seen that design very often. Typically the plates I've seen are bolted to the case somehow.

    On most full size, plate mounted keyboards I have encountered, neither the plate nor the PCB is bolted to the case. Held together by friction only! WTG, keyboard makers...wtf.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:55:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:52:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:37:59
    The bottom of the screw or bolt head touches the plate. And I've never seen screws that bolt into PCBs. The switch legs, solder joints, and the fit between the switch and plates hold the plate to the PCB. The plate then gets bolted to the bottom of the case in most of the keyboards I've seen.

    It's usual for 60%s that the plate is not connected to the screws, except for some customs:
    http://oi43.tinypic.com/23ud2r8.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/RG9LFA8.jpg

    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:46:43
    1. Seems like PCB Cherry stabs would work just fine for a plate mount as they're still mounted to the pcb without "touching" the plate.

    2. What i wanted to know about the stabs was if there was a difference between plate and pcb mounted stabs and whether i would need to change stabs if i wanted to add a plate to my pure. And also, are pcb/plate stabs interchangable? I don't think so right?

    1. If you use a thick acrylic plate there might be issues, but I'm not sure. Usually you should be fine. Make sure to lube and clip them while you're at it!
    2. They're not interchangable as they have a different base.

    Thanks. Any idea what keyboard this might be? Cause the switches are solded with the LEDs at the bottom but it's not a pure (which is the only 60% i know with LEDs soldered this way)

    http://oi43.tinypic.com/23ud2r8.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:57:15
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:55:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:52:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:37:59
    The bottom of the screw or bolt head touches the plate. And I've never seen screws that bolt into PCBs. The switch legs, solder joints, and the fit between the switch and plates hold the plate to the PCB. The plate then gets bolted to the bottom of the case in most of the keyboards I've seen.

    It's usual for 60%s that the plate is not connected to the screws, except for some customs:
    http://oi43.tinypic.com/23ud2r8.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/RG9LFA8.jpg

    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:46:43
    1. Seems like PCB Cherry stabs would work just fine for a plate mount as they're still mounted to the pcb without "touching" the plate.

    2. What i wanted to know about the stabs was if there was a difference between plate and pcb mounted stabs and whether i would need to change stabs if i wanted to add a plate to my pure. And also, are pcb/plate stabs interchangable? I don't think so right?

    1. If you use a thick acrylic plate there might be issues, but I'm not sure. Usually you should be fine. Make sure to lube and clip them while you're at it!
    2. They're not interchangable as they have a different base.

    Thanks. Any idea what keyboard this might be? Cause the switches are solded with the LEDs at the bottom but it's not a pure (which is the only 60% i know with LEDs soldered this way)

    http://oi43.tinypic.com/23ud2r8.jpg

    Looks like a Poker X that someone added a plate to. And replaced stock LEDs with 2x3x4 rectagle LEDs.

    I say it looks like it, because I believe that to be a Poker X I built. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:58:02
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:54:25
    On most full size, plate mounted keyboards I have encountered, neither the plate nor the PCB is bolted to the case. Held together by friction only! WTG, keyboard makers...wtf.

    The Ducky Zero I just modded and, iirc, my Filco 104 both had bolts holding the plate in place.

    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:55:40
    Thanks. Any idea what keyboard this might be? Cause the switches are solded with the LEDs at the bottom but it's not a pure (which is the only 60% i know with LEDs soldered this way)

    http://oi43.tinypic.com/23ud2r8.jpg

    I think it's some form of 60% (Poker X, Poker 2, GON NS 38GT, etc) pcb in one of the low profile Tex 60% cases. And it looks like there's a custom painted/anodized plate. Perhaps from imsto.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:00:15
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:55:40
    Thanks. Any idea what keyboard this might be? Cause the switches are solded with the LEDs at the bottom but it's not a pure (which is the only 60% i know with LEDs soldered this way)

    http://oi43.tinypic.com/23ud2r8.jpg

    I think this might be a KBT KBC Poker X, ANSI, MX Clears, MX Grey in Spacebar, Lubed, Cherry Stabs, Costar Stabs in Spacebar, Beast Steel Plate (painted purple), KBT Pure Limited Aluminum Case, White LEDs on (Esc, WASD, Spacebar). (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57225.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:01:11
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:00:15
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Mon, 23 June 2014, 13:55:40
    Thanks. Any idea what keyboard this might be? Cause the switches are solded with the LEDs at the bottom but it's not a pure (which is the only 60% i know with LEDs soldered this way)

    http://oi43.tinypic.com/23ud2r8.jpg

    I think this might be a KBT KBC Poker X, ANSI, MX Clears, MX Grey in Spacebar, Lubed, Cherry Stabs, Costar Stabs in Spacebar, Beast Steel Plate (painted purple), KBT Pure Limited Aluminum Case, White LEDs on (Esc, WASD, Spacebar). (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57225.0)

    Yes, that's it. The one I built for dustinhxc. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:15:31
    Unicomp's website is horrendus to find stuff. What do I have to do to get a custom colored ANSI F-121 set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:20:05
    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:15:31
    Unicomp's website is horrendus to find stuff. What do I have to do to get a custom colored ANSI F-121 set?

    Just email them on their site.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:25:38
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 11:50:33
    Quote from: burnmyshadow on Mon, 23 June 2014, 11:27:36
    1. I expected some springs or something like that but from the first look inside there are just rubbers. Are these keyboards rubber dome?

    2. Or are they just noname cheap stuff and there are no sense of repairing them?

    3. Also, this keyboards are recognize only 3 keys pressed together can I do something about it?

    1. Yes, those are rubberdomes.
    2. Yes.
    3. This is called key rollover (or in short KRO). No you can't change that without some serious modding.

    And welcome to Geekhack!
    #2 No. ICL used to make very well respected mechanical switches that were mainly available in europe.
    here is an example:
    http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/hi-i-have-a-strange-keyboard-t2183.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:35:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:25:38
    #2 No. ICL used to make very well respected mechanical switches that were mainly available in europe.
    here is an example:
    http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/hi-i-have-a-strange-keyboard-t2183.html

    Ok then in this case it's branded cheap stuff that still isn't worth repairing :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:42:59
    Oh, I was actually meaning to ask about this before. Anyone here tried an ICL keyboard like this? If so, what did you think about it? I could only find that DT thread on it, but nothing was said about the switches other than 'feels amazing to type on' from one guy.

    (http://i.imgur.com/uBIiTbl.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 23 June 2014, 21:15:23
    I was asked a question via PM and I thought the answer would actually be interesting to a larger audience, so here it is...

    The question:
    Quote
    Can I solder the switches before I attach the stabilizers (cherry style)?
    Are the stabilizers just popped in or are they secured in any other way as well?

    My response:
    Disclaimer:  I am not an expert.  Everything I know is based on research and limited experience...

    That being said, I am more than willing share what I know.

    To get started, there are two different types of Cherry stabilizers; plate mounted and pcb mounted
    Do you know which type you have?  What pcb are you using?  Are you using a plate?

    It is easier to explain how both work by letting someone else do it.  :)  >>> YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmcB8jP2t64) >>>

    So to answer your question.  You need to add plate mounted stabilizers before you solder on the switch.  You can remove pcb mounted stabilizers with the switches soldered in place if you are not using a plate.  In some plates (like spirt's 5mm acrylic plate), you can (and need to) use pcb mount stabilizers with the plate because the whole area is cut out, so both the switch and the stabilizer is actually pcb mounted.  In this case, you can also remove the stabilizers with the switches soldered on.  I just checked with the universal tkl plate and with an IMSTO 60% plate and I could use cherry pcb mount stabs with both, BUT, you would have to desolder the WHOLE BOARD if you want to change them, so you would absolutely have to put them in first.  I would not recommend that, you would want to get plate mounted stabilizers in that case.

    Here are some pictures that might help you understand.  These are pcb mount stabilizers and the different plates mentioned above.

    [attachimg=1]

    [attachimg=2]

    [attachimg=3]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 24 June 2014, 02:16:29
    But they are interchangable right?

    Like the pcb would support both pcb and plate mounted stabs?

    Just that if i'm lazy to go source for a plate mounted stab, i would have to mount the pcb stab first and desolder all the switches if i want to change anything. If not, i should just get a plate stab and mount it like a switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 24 June 2014, 04:29:00
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Tue, 24 June 2014, 02:16:29
    1. But they are interchangable right?
    Like the pcb would support both pcb and plate mounted stabs?

    2. Just that if i'm lazy to go source for a plate mounted stab, i would have to mount the pcb stab first and desolder all the switches if i want to change anything.

    1. The PCB needs only space and nothing special to support plate mounted stabs. Since the Pure already supports PCB mounted stabs you can use both types.

    2. Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 24 June 2014, 06:47:02
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Tue, 24 June 2014, 02:16:29
    But they are interchangable right?

    Like the pcb would support both pcb and plate mounted stabs?

    Just that if i'm lazy to go source for a plate mounted stab, i would have to mount the pcb stab first and desolder all the switches if i want to change anything. If not, i should just get a plate stab and mount it like a switch?

    If your pcb does not have pcb mount stabilizer holes, you would have to clip off some plastic to use pcb mount stabs with a plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 24 June 2014, 07:19:33
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 24 June 2014, 06:47:02
    If your pcb does not have pcb mount stabilizer holes, you would have to clip off some plastic to use pcb mount stabs with a plate.

    That won't work, then there will be nothing to hold the stabilizer properly in place.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 24 June 2014, 11:31:11
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 24 June 2014, 07:19:33
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 24 June 2014, 06:47:02
    If your pcb does not have pcb mount stabilizer holes, you would have to clip off some plastic to use pcb mount stabs with a plate.

    That won't work, then there will be nothing to hold the stabilizer properly in place.

    I will take your word for it. U assumed that it would be locked between the plate and the pcb so it would not move. I could be wrong, but with my quick inspection it looked to be possible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 24 June 2014, 11:48:34
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 24 June 2014, 11:31:11
    I will take your word for it. U assumed that it would be locked between the plate and the pcb so it would not move. I could be wrong, but with my quick inspection it looked to be possible.

    I don't have something to test it but according to the spec sheet and my own measurments, plate cutouts should be too big to hold it down. The holes should be just as wide as the bases and about a millimeter longer.

    Besides, I don't think that is a good idea anyways. Plate mounted stabilizers exist for a reason and they have a latching tab that fixes them to the plate, if you would use your idea there is really nothing but pressure from the top that holds them in place. Assembly would also probably be quite the hassle.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:10:02
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 24 June 2014, 11:48:34
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 24 June 2014, 11:31:11
    I will take your word for it. U assumed that it would be locked between the plate and the pcb so it would not move. I could be wrong, but with my quick inspection it looked to be possible.

    I don't have something to test it but according to the spec sheet and my own measurments, plate cutouts should be too big to hold it down. The holes should be just as wide as the bases and about a millimeter longer.

    Besides, I don't think that is a good idea anyways. Plate mounted stabilizers exist for a reason and they have a latching tab that fixes them to the plate, if you would use your idea there is really nothing but pressure from the top that holds them in place. Assembly would also probably be quite the hassle.

    Absolutely not recommended. I think it would depend on the plate. I think it could work with the plates I was looking at (universal TKL and IMSTO 60%). The pcb stab fits through the imsto plate pretty easily. On the universal plate it barely fits through and was hard to remove after. It definitely would not go completely through the plate.

    Get the right part for the job is always the right choice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:30:54
    Hi guys,

    I have Filco tenkeyless mx blue switch keyboard which I bought 3 years ago. It's in very good condition, just some key caps wore off. Any idea what can I sell it for in Europe? Is it hard/easy to sell it? I payed 110£ 3 years ago, so what can I expect now for it?

    Cheers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:39:02
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:30:54
    I have Filco tenkeyless mx blue switch keyboard which I bought 3 years ago. It's in very good condition, just some key caps wore off. Any idea what can I sell it for in Europe? Is it hard/easy to sell it? I payed 110£ 3 years ago, so what can I expect now for it?

    We have a seperate price check thread here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:50:01
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:39:02
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:30:54
    I have Filco tenkeyless mx blue switch keyboard which I bought 3 years ago. It's in very good condition, just some key caps wore off. Any idea what can I sell it for in Europe? Is it hard/easy to sell it? I payed 110£ 3 years ago, so what can I expect now for it?

    We have a seperate price check thread here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0

    Thanks mate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Tue, 24 June 2014, 20:33:37
    Sorry for the stupid question, but what actually is "Dolch", what does it mean. A certain color? a certain shape? a certain material? or what?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 24 June 2014, 20:34:23
    Quote from: Eszett on Tue, 24 June 2014, 20:33:37
    Sorry for the stupid question, but what actually is "Dolch", what does it mean. A certain color? a certain shape? a certain material? or what?

    Dolch was a company. But we mainly use it to refer to the dark gray color scheme that their keyboards had.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Tue, 24 June 2014, 20:44:26
    @intelli78 Ah, the color scheme of white legends on grey background. Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 25 June 2014, 00:25:10
    Where can I find a wrist rest like this?

    (http://i.imgur.com/oAWZW.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 25 June 2014, 01:25:28
    Welp that's otd.kr's logo, would assume one of their members made it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 25 June 2014, 03:39:58
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 25 June 2014, 00:25:10
    Where can I find a wrist rest like this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/oAWZW.jpg)


    What Sifo said.
    You can get custom wrist wrests in the artisan subforum, Beast and tigersharkdude make some.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 25 June 2014, 07:43:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 25 June 2014, 03:39:58
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 25 June 2014, 00:25:10
    Where can I find a wrist rest like this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/oAWZW.jpg)


    What Sifo said.
    You can get custom wrist wrests in the artisan subforum, Beast and tigersharkdude make some.

    Don't forget noko.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 25 June 2014, 08:59:09
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 25 June 2014, 07:43:16
    Don't forget noko.

    Afaik Noko doesn't do pure wood ones though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:15:09
    Where can I get 7x wires?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:32:53
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:15:09
    Where can I get 7x wires?

    Cherry?  You could makes some...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:36:50
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:15:09
    Where can I get 7x wires?

    I think GON has some for sale and there's a couple sellers in the classifieds that might still have some. Forget their name offhand though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:40:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:36:50
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:15:09
    Where can I get 7x wires?

    I think GON has some for sale and there's a couple sellers in the classifieds that might still have some. Forget their name offhand though.

    GON's shipping price  :-X

    I haven't seen any in the classifieds at all so that's why I posted here
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:44:23
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:32:53
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:15:09
    Where can I get 7x wires?

    Cherry?  You could makes some...

    I know Melvang is working on a jig and a setup to bend his own stabilizer wires because it is hard to source parts. Not sure when he'll be finishing up though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 25 June 2014, 15:53:16
    md can get qfs for $65. Is there any place selling them with a much shorter timeframe at around the same price? Friend is converting to mechs and everywhere I try to find qfs or qfr its $90+ >:D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 16:10:01
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 25 June 2014, 15:53:16
    md can get qfs for $65. Is there any place selling them with a much shorter timeframe at around the same price? Friend is converting to mechs and everywhere I try to find qfs or qfr its $90+ >:D
    MD is gonna be the best price you're gonna get new, although I'm sure plenty of people are selling them used for around $60. Massdrop is worth it if you're willing to wait the ridiculous time it takes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 18:53:15
    Can you take the click leaf out of a Matias clicky switch and make a linear switch? If yes, what are the results like?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 25 June 2014, 18:58:26
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 18:53:15
    1. Can you take the click leaf out of a Matias clicky switch and make a linear switch?

    2. If yes, what are the results like?

    1. Yes.
    2. Feels weird - quite light and there is still some sort of bump. Edit: It gets caused by the end of the actuator leaf. You feel the point where it is bent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 19:04:41
    Ah. Thanks for the info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:46:09
    what are the differences between smd and through hole diodes, beside through hole diodes being, well, through hole.

    do i require both when i'm building a non led-backlit keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:49:37
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:46:09
    what are the differences between smd and through hole diodes, beside through hole diodes being, well, through hole.

    do i require both when i'm building a non led-backlit keyboard?

    The diodes required will depend on which board you are using.  You should only need one type.  I don't remember seeing any that could use either one.  Through hole is much easier to solder than SMD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:56:21
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:46:09
    what are the differences between smd and through hole diodes, beside through hole diodes being, well, through hole.

    do i require both when i'm building a non led-backlit keyboard?

    i am guessing that you may be slightly confused by the components you need for an LED keyboard.  for any keyboard, you will need one diode per switch.  depending on the pcb, this could be either through hole or smd.  this diode basically works like a one way gate which makes each key press in the matrix uniquely identifiable by the controller.  now if you want to have LEDs, then you want to add resistors into the mix as well.  the resistors basically control how much power (probably actually current) goes to each led and they also make sure that the power that you do have can be distributed across the whole board of LEDs so they are all a consistent brightness. 

    i probably did not describe this well enough, but i am sure someone will correct me if i made major errors.

    in short, you need diodes for the matrix to function.  you need resistors if you plan to use leds as well...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:00:07
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:56:21
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:46:09
    what are the differences between smd and through hole diodes, beside through hole diodes being, well, through hole.

    do i require both when i'm building a non led-backlit keyboard?

    i am guessing that you may be slightly confused by the components you need for an LED keyboard.  for any keyboard, you will need one diode per switch.  depending on the pcb, this could be either through hole or smd.  this diode basically works like a one way gate which makes each key press in the matrix uniquely identifiable by the controller.  now if you want to have LEDs, then you want to add resistors into the mix as well.  the resistors basically control how much power (probably actually current) goes to each led and they also make sure that the power that you do have can be distributed across the whole board of LEDs so they are all a consistent brightness. 

    i probably did not describe this well enough, but i am sure someone will correct me if i made major errors.

    in short, you need diodes for the matrix to function.  you need resistors if you plan to use leds as well...

    haha i understand the compenents need i just didn't you y'all to be confused between smd resistors and smd diodes. my question still stands; what are the differences between smd diodes and through hole diodes (besides through being "easier" to solder")
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:07:53
    They are functionally the same. no difference aside from how they are installed.

    Also, rare case but keep in mind if you have old switches with built-in diodes, you don't need smd or external thru-holes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:09:12
    through hole diodes will have two legs or leads that will fit through the hole in the PCB that will get soldered and cut.  SMD diodes will just be a small rectangle with two metal ends that get soldered to a flat pad. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:16:08
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:00:07
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:56:21
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:46:09
    what are the differences between smd and through hole diodes, beside through hole diodes being, well, through hole.

    do i require both when i'm building a non led-backlit keyboard?

    i am guessing that you may be slightly confused by the components you need for an LED keyboard.  for any keyboard, you will need one diode per switch.  depending on the pcb, this could be either through hole or smd.  this diode basically works like a one way gate which makes each key press in the matrix uniquely identifiable by the controller.  now if you want to have LEDs, then you want to add resistors into the mix as well.  the resistors basically control how much power (probably actually current) goes to each led and they also make sure that the power that you do have can be distributed across the whole board of LEDs so they are all a consistent brightness. 

    i probably did not describe this well enough, but i am sure someone will correct me if i made major errors.

    in short, you need diodes for the matrix to function.  you need resistors if you plan to use leds as well...

    haha i understand the compenents need i just didn't you y'all to be confused between smd resistors and smd diodes. my question still stands; what are the differences between smd diodes and through hole diodes (besides through being "easier" to solder")

    no difference.  you basically just pick whatever your pcb supports.  a lot of the older pcbs only support through hole diodes.  some of the newer pcbs (like from sprit's gb) actually support both smd or through hole diodes, so you can choose which you want to use.

    here is a picture of a pcb which allows you to choose which type of diode you want to use.

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:19:16
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:07:53
    They are functionally the same. no difference aside from how they are installed.

    Also, rare case but keep in mind if you have old switches with built-in diodes, you don't need smd or external thru-holes.

    Yes, you may have to remove the diodes in the switches if your pcb does not support through hole diodes in that orientation.  You can not use through hole diodes inside a switch with leds as they take up the same space...

    Edit:  Here are a couple pictures of what intelli78 is talking about.  Here is a switch with a diode installed...

    [attachimg=1]

    [attachimg=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 00:49:26
    Yup. And, some switches have wires instead of diodes, for stabilization.  If they do, REMOVE them and do not solder them in or they will short the terminals and bypass your diodes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 03:28:41
    How long can cherry mx switches last? I know there are exact numbers, but they don't say anything to me.

    I am using my filco with cherry mx blues for over 3 years now, pretty much every day. I wonder is it after some years the switches just become unusable, or considerably worse than new? Does that every happen?

    For example if I want to buy new set of key caps, should I put them on new keyboard, or 3 year old filco is perfectly fine and will last me many years to follow?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 26 June 2014, 03:49:05
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 03:28:41
    How long can cherry mx switches last? I know there are exact numbers, but they don't say anything to me.

    I am using my filco with cherry mx blues for over 3 years now, pretty much every day. I wonder is it after some years the switches just become unusable, or considerably worse than new? Does that every happen?

    For example if I want to buy new set of key caps, should I put them on new keyboard, or 3 year old filco is perfectly fine and will last me many years to follow?

    Cherry keyswitches are rated for 50 million keystrokes.  Your keycaps will wear out long before the switches do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 04:04:11
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 26 June 2014, 03:49:05
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 03:28:41
    How long can cherry mx switches last? I know there are exact numbers, but they don't say anything to me.

    I am using my filco with cherry mx blues for over 3 years now, pretty much every day. I wonder is it after some years the switches just become unusable, or considerably worse than new? Does that every happen?

    For example if I want to buy new set of key caps, should I put them on new keyboard, or 3 year old filco is perfectly fine and will last me many years to follow?

    Cherry keyswitches are rated for 50 million keystrokes.  Your keycaps will wear out long before the switches do.

    Well as I said that number does not give me any real perspective on what it means. And some of my keycaps already wore off actually :P

    So when selling cherry mx keyboard, does its price change depending on how old the keyboard is? Is it 2 or 5 years, will the price change (considering that external look is the same)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 26 June 2014, 04:45:28
    Not really much of anything.  Care, cleanliness, and keycaps seem to affect price more than age.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 26 June 2014, 04:56:33
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 04:04:11
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 26 June 2014, 03:49:05
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 03:28:41
    How long can cherry mx switches last? I know there are exact numbers, but they don't say anything to me.

    I am using my filco with cherry mx blues for over 3 years now, pretty much every day. I wonder is it after some years the switches just become unusable, or considerably worse than new? Does that every happen?

    For example if I want to buy new set of key caps, should I put them on new keyboard, or 3 year old filco is perfectly fine and will last me many years to follow?

    Cherry keyswitches are rated for 50 million keystrokes.  Your keycaps will wear out long before the switches do.

    Well as I said that number does not give me any real perspective on what it means. And some of my keycaps already wore off actually :P

    So when selling cherry mx keyboard, does its price change depending on how old the keyboard is? Is it 2 or 5 years, will the price change (considering that external look is the same)?

    If you press a single key 1,000 time a day (no idea how realistic that is - you'd have to use a keystroke capture/analysis utility for your typing patterns), a typical Cherry switch would last for 50,000 days.  That's nearly 137 years.  Pressing a single key 1000 time a day every day of the year for 137 years.

    If you press a single key 10,000 time a day (now that is probably way overkill, even for a professional typist), that switch would last nearly 14 years.  If you have weekends off, then that switch would last for 1,000 weeks, which is about 19 years.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 05:00:29
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 26 June 2014, 04:45:28
    Not really much of anything.  Care, cleanliness, and keycaps seem to affect price more than age.

    Gotcha.

    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 June 2014, 04:56:33
    If you press a single key 1,000 time a day (no idea how realistic that is - you'd have to use a keystroke capture/analysis utility for your typing patterns), a typical Cherry switch would last for 50,000 days.  That's nearly 137 years.  Pressing a single key 1000 time a day every day of the year for 137 years.

    If you press a single key 10,000 time a day (now that is probably way overkill, even for a professional typist), that switch would last nearly 14 years.  If you have weekends off, then that switch would last for 1,000 weeks, which is about 19 years.

    Alright that's now more clear, they are very long lasting. So apparently no one throws the keyboard away just because switches are all wored out and too old..? :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 26 June 2014, 05:12:45
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 05:00:29
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 26 June 2014, 04:45:28
    Not really much of anything.  Care, cleanliness, and keycaps seem to affect price more than age.

    Gotcha.

    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 June 2014, 04:56:33
    If you press a single key 1,000 time a day (no idea how realistic that is - you'd have to use a keystroke capture/analysis utility for your typing patterns), a typical Cherry switch would last for 50,000 days.  That's nearly 137 years.  Pressing a single key 1000 time a day every day of the year for 137 years.

    If you press a single key 10,000 time a day (now that is probably way overkill, even for a professional typist), that switch would last nearly 14 years.  If you have weekends off, then that switch would last for 1,000 weeks, which is about 19 years.

    Alright that's now more clear, they are very long lasting. So apparently no one throws the keyboard away just because switches are all wored out and too old..? :D

    Most here would get the soldering iron out and replace a 50c switch themselves rather than throw the whole keyboard out!

    It's quite feasible to replace individual switches as they reach the end of their lives.  Or if they become defective and die young.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 26 June 2014, 05:51:27
    Just to add to the discussion here: The ratings mean that the switch will work after 50 million actuations, or rather that the contacts still work after that time. It doesn't say anything about how it feels.
    For example you can be sure that the spring will be a lot lighter after 50 million actuations than one from a new switch. I have a few old Cherry boards with MX Blacks and some keys in the main areas are lighter than for example the F-row keys.
    Another thing that is probably going to happen is that the stem will wear off a bit - this can make it smoother, but also reduce any tactility it has (that is of course not an issue for linear switches).

    That said, since it's a slow, progressive change you will probably not feel it unless you compare it to a new board and it will still take a lot of time until the switch feel significantly changes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 05:57:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 26 June 2014, 05:51:27
    Just to add to the discussion here: The ratings mean that the switch will work after 50 million actuations, or rather that the contacts still work after that time. It doesn't say anything about how it feels.
    For example you can be sure that the spring will be a lot lighter after 50 million actuations than one from a new switch. I have a few old Cherry boards with MX Blacks and some keys in the main areas are lighter than for example the F-row keys.
    Another thing that is probably going to happen is that the stem will wear off a bit - this can make it smoother, but also reduce any tactility it has (that is of course not an issue for linear switches).

    That said, since it's a slow, progressive change you will probably not feel it unless you compare it to a new board and it will still take a lot of time until the switch feel significantly changes.

    Yeah actually I can definitely notice the difference when pressing  regular (A, S, D, etc) key on my Filco vs. rarely used ones like Pause or F12.
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:10:36
    Another question..

    I want to buy this PBT blank white key cap set: http://www.banggood.com/PBT-87-Blank-White-Key-Caps-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-p-84084.html

    Is it going to fit my Filco or KBC poker 2? Are the keys have absolutely the same design?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:13:33
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:10:36
    I want to buy this PBT blank white key cap set: http://www.banggood.com/PBT-87-Blank-White-Key-Caps-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-p-84084.html

    Is it going to fit my Filco or KBC poker 2? Are the keys have absolutely the same design?

    Yes it should work perfectly fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:25:23
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:13:33
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:10:36
    I want to buy this PBT blank white key cap set: http://www.banggood.com/PBT-87-Blank-White-Key-Caps-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-p-84084.html

    Is it going to fit my Filco or KBC poker 2? Are the keys have absolutely the same design?

    Yes it should work perfectly fine.

    Okay, and what about those little plastic things on wider keys like space bar which I put into stabiliser? From pictures I can see the key caps are just plain without those plastic things. Or I can just remove them from my old key caps and put to new ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:29:43
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:25:23
    Okay, and what about those little plastic things on wider keys like space bar which I put into stabiliser? From pictures I can see the key caps are just plain without those plastic things. Or I can just remove them from my old key caps and put to new ones?

    Those plastic things you mean are Costar stabilizer inserts, you can pull them out of the old keycaps. Your Poker doesn't need them, it uses Cherry stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:40:59
    Hoping the answer is simple...How do I program a 360C?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:42:12
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:29:43
    Those plastic things you mean are Costar stabilizer inserts, you can pull them out of the old keycaps. Your Poker doesn't need them, it uses Cherry stabilizers.

    Ahh so if some key caps I want to use for Filco I'll just pull them out of filco's key caps, and for Poker I don't even need them :) Thank you sir!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:55:18
    Quote from: infiniti on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:40:59
    Hoping the answer is simple...How do I program a 360C?

    Do you know what controller it uses? I couldn't really find anything.

    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:42:12
    Ahh so if some key caps I want to use for Filco I'll just pull them out of filco's key caps, and for Poker I don't even need them :) Thank you sir!

    This video shows how to remove the inserts in case you're having any trouble with it:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Thu, 26 June 2014, 08:00:52
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:55:18
    Quote from: infiniti on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:40:59
    Hoping the answer is simple...How do I program a 360C?

    Do you know what controller it uses? I couldn't really find anything.


    It has an ATMEGA16A PU 1347.  I have a firmware file but can't seem to get it to connect to AVR Studio.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 26 June 2014, 09:53:43
    http://www.otd.kr/gn/wiki/Aikon

    There you go infiniti^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 26 June 2014, 12:47:26
    are ducky shine zero tkl cherry stabs pre clipped or not? Friend is getting one from mk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:04:53
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 26 June 2014, 12:47:26
    are ducky shine zero tkl cherry stabs pre clipped or not? Friend is getting one from mk.

    Is this a serious question? as in are the stabilizers preclipped?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:16:35
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 26 June 2014, 12:47:26
    are ducky shine zero tkl cherry stabs pre clipped or not? Friend is getting one from mk.

    At one point, Laffindude had suggested that the Shine 3's were pre-clipped. I'm not sure about Zeros. When I was typing on one I modded, it didn't feel like they were.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:38:08
    My Mini, G2Pro and Shine 3 didn't have clipped stablizers at least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 26 June 2014, 14:26:04
    I have a keycool 84 with brown kailh switches and they feel super mushy.  Am I imagining this or has someone experienced something similar? Thought kailh and cherry mx were supposed to be pretty similar.  Comparing to my Filco brown tenkeypad they feel horrible.

    edit: also, the spacebar is super rattly, is this normal on this board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 26 June 2014, 15:54:14
    sounds normal to me

    kalih and mx feel nothing alike, i don't know where you read that
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jalberstone on Thu, 26 June 2014, 17:05:22
    Does either the Realforce 87U or Leopold fc660c have volume controls and will they work on a mac?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 26 June 2014, 17:07:46
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Thu, 26 June 2014, 17:05:22
    Does either the Realforce 87U or Leopold fc660c have volume controls and will they work on a mac?

    no and no
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 26 June 2014, 18:33:23
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Thu, 26 June 2014, 17:05:22
    Does either the Realforce 87U or Leopold fc660c have volume controls and will they work on a mac?

    F10-F12 work fine as volume control on my FC660C. I think I have keymap4mac (I think is what it is called) installed though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 27 June 2014, 15:53:51
    Where can I get a US mail proxy? I can't seem to find this one item in Canada and I need it shipped to someone in the US then up here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 27 June 2014, 16:00:25
    Quote from: FrostyToast on Fri, 27 June 2014, 15:53:51
    Where can I get a US mail proxy? I can't seem to find this one item in Canada and I need it shipped to someone in the US then up here.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37277.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:18:07
    When will someone make an 1800 PCB (like the leeku) but with pre soldered SMD's? :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:53:42
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:18:07
    When will someone make an 1800 PCB (like the leeku) but with pre soldered SMD's? :D
    When you pay someone to do the smd work for you. ;)
    Quote from: FrostyToast on Fri, 27 June 2014, 15:53:51
    Where can I get a US mail proxy? I can't seem to find this one item in Canada and I need it shipped to someone in the US then up here.
    Or you can ask a friendly GHer to help you out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:59:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:53:42
    When will someone make an 1800 PCB (like the leeku) but with pre soldered SMD's? :D

    Knew you would say that, lol. I need to find a leeku and send it off to someone I guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 27 June 2014, 20:25:23
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:59:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:53:42
    When will someone make an 1800 PCB (like the leeku) but with pre soldered SMD's? :D

    Knew you would say that, lol. I need to find a leeku and send it off to someone I guess.

    I'm pretty sure it does through hole too.  I just got one and I've been debating trying to do SMD or doing through hole.  If I do through hole, I may pop the diode out of the switch and bend the diode so that it doesn't cover the LED holes and I can still do LEDs as well.

    On that matter, is there any good documentation on the Leeku anywhere so I can make sure I do things the right way with it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 21:07:09
    Quick check - long lead of LED is positive and short is negative correct? And square pads are negative while circles are positive...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 27 June 2014, 21:17:04
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 21:07:09
    Quick check - long lead of LED is positive and short is negative correct? And square pads are negative while circles are positive...?

    Legs: Yes, long is (+), short is (-)...
    Holes: On my Sprit PCB I have a different circle vs square config...

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40501.0;attach=69018;image)

    Edit: and from the OP http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.8650#post_BBB
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Demetrium on Fri, 27 June 2014, 21:52:45
    Anyone know if KBT Pures are still being made? I think I want to buy one with orange LEDs and MX Reds. So sexy, but they seem to be out of stock everywhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:18:25
    Hm. The OP doesn't really explain any more about determining polarity on PCB, most likely because I'm assuming most PCB's are unique? Is there a better way to determine polarity besides soldering in the LEDs and hoping they work and resoldering them the other way around if they don't work? I don't have access to a multimeter.

    On a related note, is desoldering and resoldering LEDs simple? It seems like all you would need to do is desolder the legs and then just pull the LED out without desoldering anything else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:25:23
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:18:25
    Hm. The OP doesn't really explain any more about determining polarity on PCB, most likely because I'm assuming most PCB's are unique? Is there a better way to determine polarity besides soldering in the LEDs and hoping they work and resoldering them the other way around if they don't work? I don't have access to a multimeter.

    On a related note, is desoldering and resoldering LEDs simple? It seems like all you would need to do is desolder the legs and then just pull the LED out without desoldering anything else.

    It may depend on the PCB, I would expect that to be somewhat standard, but I don't know that at all.  What PCB do you have?  I am sure someone has one and knows the answers.

    Another option would be to install/solder SIP sockets.  Then if you are wrong about your LEDs you can just pull them out and turn them around.  An option anyway...  If you use SIP sockets, be sure to put an LED in them before you solder them on so the spacing is right.

    You can check my build log to see what I am talking about: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58969.msg1349714#msg1349714
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:49:50
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:18:25
    Hm. The OP doesn't really explain any more about determining polarity on PCB, most likely because I'm assuming most PCB's are unique? Is there a better way to determine polarity besides soldering in the LEDs and hoping they work and resoldering them the other way around if they don't work? I don't have access to a multimeter.

    On a related note, is desoldering and resoldering LEDs simple? It seems like all you would need to do is desolder the legs and then just pull the LED out without desoldering anything else.

    Before you solder in the LED, plug the PCB into your PC and activate the backlighting. Then touch the legs of the LED to the pads. It will only light in one orientation. Then just remember which leg goes to which hole.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:51:58
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:49:50
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:18:25
    Hm. The OP doesn't really explain any more about determining polarity on PCB, most likely because I'm assuming most PCB's are unique? Is there a better way to determine polarity besides soldering in the LEDs and hoping they work and resoldering them the other way around if they don't work? I don't have access to a multimeter.

    On a related note, is desoldering and resoldering LEDs simple? It seems like all you would need to do is desolder the legs and then just pull the LED out without desoldering anything else.

    Before you solder in the LED, plug the PCB into your PC and activate the backlighting. Then touch the legs of the LED to the pads. It will only light in one orientation. Then just remember which leg goes to which hole.

    Does this assume that there is a firmware flashed to the board already? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:52:43
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:51:58
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:49:50
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:18:25
    Hm. The OP doesn't really explain any more about determining polarity on PCB, most likely because I'm assuming most PCB's are unique? Is there a better way to determine polarity besides soldering in the LEDs and hoping they work and resoldering them the other way around if they don't work? I don't have access to a multimeter.

    On a related note, is desoldering and resoldering LEDs simple? It seems like all you would need to do is desolder the legs and then just pull the LED out without desoldering anything else.

    Before you solder in the LED, plug the PCB into your PC and activate the backlighting. Then touch the legs of the LED to the pads. It will only light in one orientation. Then just remember which leg goes to which hole.

    Does this assume that there is a firmware flashed to the board already?

    Of course. You always want to solder the LEDs as the very last step. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 27 June 2014, 23:21:43
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:52:43
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:51:58
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:49:50
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:18:25
    Hm. The OP doesn't really explain any more about determining polarity on PCB, most likely because I'm assuming most PCB's are unique? Is there a better way to determine polarity besides soldering in the LEDs and hoping they work and resoldering them the other way around if they don't work? I don't have access to a multimeter.

    On a related note, is desoldering and resoldering LEDs simple? It seems like all you would need to do is desolder the legs and then just pull the LED out without desoldering anything else.

    Before you solder in the LED, plug the PCB into your PC and activate the backlighting. Then touch the legs of the LED to the pads. It will only light in one orientation. Then just remember which leg goes to which hole.

    Does this assume that there is a firmware flashed to the board already?

    Of course. You always want to solder the LEDs as the very last step. :)

    Cool. Thanks for confirming. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 23:26:44
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:51:58
    Does this assume that there is a firmware flashed to the board already?

    On a similar note, what is the easiest method of programing the GHpad? It has 4 extra buttons above the numpad, and has a mega32u4 soldered on already. Is Metalliqaz's good? (It requires starting the keyboard in bootloader mode, and I'm not sure how to do that on the GHpad).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 June 2014, 23:47:22


    Quote from: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 23:26:44

    1) On a similar note, what is the easiest method of programing the GHpad? Is Metalliqaz's good?

    2) It requires starting the keyboard in bootloader mode, and I'm not sure how to do that on the GHpad.

    1) I like metalliqaz's firmware thingy.

    2) I'm not sure, I bet it's holding escape while plugging in the pad though.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 27 June 2014, 23:49:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 June 2014, 23:47:22


    Quote from: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 23:26:44

    1) On a similar note, what is the easiest method of programing the GHpad? Is Metalliqaz's good?

    2) It requires starting the keyboard in bootloader mode, and I'm not sure how to do that on the GHpad.

    1) I like metalliqaz's firmware thingy.

    2) I'm not sure, I bet it's holding escape while plugging in the pad though.

    1. +1 to metalliqaz's firmware, best thing ever
    2. I'm also not sure, but I'm placing my bets on that there is some pads you have to short
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 28 June 2014, 04:32:24
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 27 June 2014, 23:26:44
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 27 June 2014, 22:51:58
    Does this assume that there is a firmware flashed to the board already?

    On a similar note, what is the easiest method of programing the GHpad? It has 4 extra buttons above the numpad, and has a mega32u4 soldered on already. Is Metalliqaz's good? (It requires starting the keyboard in bootloader mode, and I'm not sure how to do that on the GHpad).

    Does it not have a button on the back? You would press that while it's connected to the PC to enter the boot loader.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 28 June 2014, 05:10:38
    What caps are these?

    (http://imgur.com/NdozmR7.jpg)

    Und

    (http://imgur.com/SXJxE2b.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 28 June 2014, 05:17:32
    Why does the semicolon take precedence over the colon, when the only time the semicolon ever gets used is when people meant to hit the colon key but missed the shift key. Same goes for the backslash. **** you backslash, question mark is far more loved and useful then you'll ever be. Stop being a glutton for top billing!
    Also, why does no one ever notice when I use a minus instead of a hyphen? In fact, why don't they simply do away with the hyphen and just make it a minus key because the entire planet doesn't notice nor do they care.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 28 June 2014, 06:10:44
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 28 June 2014, 05:10:38
    What caps are these?

    Show Image
    (http://imgur.com/NdozmR7.jpg)


    Und

    Show Image
    (http://imgur.com/SXJxE2b.jpg)



    Look like some from the Apple Extended Keyboards (would make sense since some of them use Alps).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 28 June 2014, 06:32:06

    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 28 June 2014, 06:10:44
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 28 June 2014, 05:10:38
    What caps are these?

    Show Image
    (http://imgur.com/NdozmR7.jpg)


    Und

    Show Image
    (http://imgur.com/SXJxE2b.jpg)



    Look like some from the Apple Extended Keyboards (would make sense since some of them use Alps).
    Danke.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 June 2014, 07:36:29
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 28 June 2014, 06:10:44
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 28 June 2014, 05:10:38
    What caps are these?

    Show Image
    (http://imgur.com/NdozmR7.jpg)


    Und

    Show Image
    (http://imgur.com/SXJxE2b.jpg)



    Look like some from the Apple Extended Keyboards (would make sense since some of them use Alps).
    Looks like a mix of SGI Granite and AEK caps. That's definitely a Duck Mini v2 with Alps switches.
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 28 June 2014, 05:17:32
    Why does the semicolon take precedence over the colon, when the only time the semicolon ever gets used is when people meant to hit the colon key but missed the shift key. Same goes for the backslash. **** you backslash, question mark is far more loved and useful then you'll ever be. Stop being a glutton for top billing!
    Also, why does no one ever notice when I use a minus instead of a hyphen? In fact, why don't they simply do away with the hyphen and just make it a minus key because the entire planet doesn't notice nor do they care.
    The mysteries of your typing style and how people interpret them...:))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 28 June 2014, 10:11:30
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 28 June 2014, 05:17:32
    Why does the semicolon take precedence over the colon, when the only time the semicolon ever gets used is when people meant to hit the colon key but missed the shift key. Same goes for the backslash. **** you backslash, question mark is far more loved and useful then you'll ever be. Stop being a glutton for top billing!
    Also, why does no one ever notice when I use a minus instead of a hyphen? In fact, why don't they simply do away with the hyphen and just make it a minus key because the entire planet doesn't notice nor do they care.

    The semicolon key exists because it is a useful key; it's not my fault no one knows how to use it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Sat, 28 June 2014, 10:17:59
    The semicolon has its uses in English grammar. However, if you ever program in C, Java, etc you will learn that you must place a semicolon at the end of (almost) every line. It is a useful key :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 28 June 2014, 13:07:34
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 28 June 2014, 05:17:32
    Why does the semicolon take precedence over the colon, when the only time the semicolon ever gets used is when people meant to hit the colon key but missed the shift key. Same goes for the backslash. **** you backslash, question mark is far more loved and useful then you'll ever be. Stop being a glutton for top billing!
    Also, why does no one ever notice when I use a minus instead of a hyphen? In fact, why don't they simply do away with the hyphen and just make it a minus key because the entire planet doesn't notice nor do they care.

    Developers use those keys a lot more often.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 28 June 2014, 15:56:59
    when we use the name of a keyboard's brand, what are we referring to exactly? say, i open up a GON, take all the internals out and put it into a LZ or KMAC case. is it henceforth referred to as a GON keyboard still?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 June 2014, 16:48:38


    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 28 June 2014, 15:56:59
    when we use the name of a keyboard's brand, what are we referring to exactly? say, i open up a GON, take all the internals out and put it into a LZ or KMAC case. is it henceforth referred to as a GON keyboard still?

    If you swap then you've got a frankenboard. It's the keyboard as a whole in my eyes. Does the A87 or whatever pcb the GON boards use fit into an LZ or KMAC? I didn't think that could happen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 28 June 2014, 17:04:39
    probably not, i just used it as an example. the question occurred to me after i recalled a post where someone was selling their *keyboard name* inside a Filco housing. probably a Phantom, come to think of it, which makes perfect sense now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 28 June 2014, 17:10:21
    What's the accepted standard stab system for custom alps boards?

    How common are alps with an extra slit on the inside like:
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8e/Alps_SKFL_--_angled_view.jpg)

    Also want to confirm that SP does not sell any sort of alps in their warehouse
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 28 June 2014, 17:58:52
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sat, 28 June 2014, 10:17:59
    The semicolon has its uses in English grammar. However, if you ever program in C, Java, etc you will learn that you must place a semicolon at the end of (almost) every line. It is a useful key :P

    The only reason semicolon took precedence for programming is because it's paying off shift to hold down colon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 28 June 2014, 18:16:37
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 28 June 2014, 17:10:21
    What's the accepted standard stab system for custom alps boards?

    How common are alps with an extra slit on the inside like:
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8e/Alps_SKFL_--_angled_view.jpg)


    Also want to confirm that SP does not sell any sort of alps in their warehouse

    1. It varies widely. Most common are the type seen here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45483.msg1364703#msg1364703

    2. Those don't seem to be very common.

    3. SP definitely makes 1-unit Alps keycaps. They were willing to do a full set for me, until I mentioned the stabilizer holes for 2.00+ unit keycaps. Then things got all wonky. I don't know that they list any in their inventory, but it doesn't seem so. Matias is planning on making keycaps available to the community.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 28 June 2014, 18:59:12
    are there any guides to buying LEDs? i'm looking for something like this:

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35864.0;attach=65980;image)

    and don't have the slightest clue where to start, as well as other 'specs' i need to take to take into account
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 28 June 2014, 19:15:21
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 28 June 2014, 17:58:52
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sat, 28 June 2014, 10:17:59
    The semicolon has its uses in English grammar. However, if you ever program in C, Java, etc you will learn that you must place a semicolon at the end of (almost) every line. It is a useful key :P

    The only reason semicolon took precedence for programming is because it's paying off shift to hold down colon.

    I started thinking about this.

    In Delphi you put ; at the end of most lines, and use : frequently in variable assignment - slight balance in favour of ;

    In C you put ; at the end of most lines, and don't make as much use of : - another language in favour of ;

    In Python you rarely use; at all, but use : a lot - definitely in favour of :

    In BASIC (yes, I know) used to use : to separate multiple statements on one line, didn't use ; much - an (old) language in favour of :

    In technical writing, I'd probably use : slightly more than ; - slightly in favour of :

    So for me it probably about balances out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 28 June 2014, 19:31:44
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 28 June 2014, 17:58:52
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sat, 28 June 2014, 10:17:59
    The semicolon has its uses in English grammar. However, if you ever program in C, Java, etc you will learn that you must place a semicolon at the end of (almost) every line. It is a useful key :P

    The only reason semicolon took precedence for programming is because it's paying off shift to hold down colon.

    Haha. I see what you did there. If you are enlighten enough to use python, then colon is king. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Sat, 28 June 2014, 23:00:58
    Colon requires an extra key press. Always in favor of ; and languages that use it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 28 June 2014, 23:07:25
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 28 June 2014, 18:59:12
    are there any guides to buying LEDs? i'm looking for something like this:

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35864.0;attach=65980;image)


    and don't have the slightest clue where to start, as well as other 'specs' i need to take to take into account
    most people buy theirs from chinese eBay sellers.

    as to what specs to take into account, that can be an extremely complicated answer, with power requirements, brightness levels, forward voltage drop etc etc.

    In practise, most any LED you put in a keyboard that has resistors already soldered will work. The worst-case scenario is usually that it wont be very bright.

    Teal LEDs like that are usually either white LEDs that are tinted or a semiconductor that actually emits teal. Both should be in the higher range of voltage drops and won't flow as much current as (say) a red LED. But it's brighter at less current, so it evens out relatively well.

    It's beyond the scope of this thread, but if you give us some specifics on what kind of LED you're after and what sort of KB you're putting it into, we can help you out more specifically, but usually it'll just work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Sun, 29 June 2014, 11:05:07
    Any tips on removing the ribbon cable on an HHKB? Have searched but can't find any so I must be the only one dumb enough having troubles doing it!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Sun, 29 June 2014, 15:01:32
    Can vintage blues from a dolch be mounted on a plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Sun, 29 June 2014, 15:10:55
    Quote from: b7ad on Sun, 29 June 2014, 11:05:07
    Any tips on removing the ribbon cable on an HHKB? Have searched but can't find any so I must be the only one dumb enough having troubles doing it!

    I wouldn't pull on the wires - it might hurt/break them. I haven't had mine connected to the original controller so I can't remember exactly what I did. But I would grab the little nubs on both sides and wiggle as you pull backwards. Maybe try pushing on the left side, then right, and alternate. I believe the connector will be looser after you have removed it before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Sun, 29 June 2014, 15:14:27
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sun, 29 June 2014, 15:10:55
    Quote from: b7ad on Sun, 29 June 2014, 11:05:07
    Any tips on removing the ribbon cable on an HHKB? Have searched but can't find any so I must be the only one dumb enough having troubles doing it!

    I wouldn't pull on the wires - it might hurt/break them. I haven't had mine connected to the original controller so I can't remember exactly what I did. But I would grab the little nubs on both sides and wiggle as you pull backwards. Maybe try pushing on the left side, then right, and alternate. I believe the connector will be looser after you have removed it before.

    Thanks a lot for the tips. I have been trying to do it as you said, but didn't want to be unnecessarily forceful and find out there was some special trick to it! Guess I need to be a little more forceful than I have been though  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 29 June 2014, 15:17:17
    Quote from: b7ad on Sun, 29 June 2014, 11:05:07
    Any tips on removing the ribbon cable on an HHKB? Have searched but can't find any so I must be the only one dumb enough having troubles doing it!

    This page (https://medium.com/@probablypat/keyboard-of-smiting-ed61dee89efd) has a few comments - you've probably tried that though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 29 June 2014, 16:01:29
    Quote from: digi on Sun, 29 June 2014, 15:01:32
    Can vintage blues from a dolch be mounted on a plate?

    Every Cherry MX switch can be plate mounted. You might have to clip the PCB legs if your PCB hasn't got the holes for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Sun, 29 June 2014, 16:08:25
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 29 June 2014, 16:01:29
    Quote from: digi on Sun, 29 June 2014, 15:01:32
    Can vintage blues from a dolch be mounted on a plate?

    Every Cherry MX switch can be plate mounted. You might have to clip the PCB legs if your PCB hasn't got the holes for them.

    Nice, thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Sun, 29 June 2014, 16:56:12
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 29 June 2014, 15:17:17
    Quote from: b7ad on Sun, 29 June 2014, 11:05:07
    Any tips on removing the ribbon cable on an HHKB? Have searched but can't find any so I must be the only one dumb enough having troubles doing it!

    This page (https://medium.com/@probablypat/keyboard-of-smiting-ed61dee89efd) has a few comments - you've probably tried that though.

    Thanks a lot, I hadn't seen that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 29 June 2014, 17:11:15
    dorkvader: thank you, but i'm actually just looking to acquire more knowledge about the construction of a keyboard, whilst figuring out the ideal board for myself at the same time. i don't specifically know what i want yet so you can't help me even if you want to :D

    edit: if it's not against the rules, can you link me to some of those ebay sellers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 29 June 2014, 18:59:45
    Do I need a proxy to order directly from kbdmod.com (http://kbdmod.com)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 June 2014, 19:44:44
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 29 June 2014, 18:59:45
    Do I need a proxy to order directly from kbdmod.com (http://kbdmod.com)?
    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 29 June 2014, 22:36:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 June 2014, 19:44:44
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 29 June 2014, 18:59:45
    Do I need a proxy to order directly from kbdmod.com (http://kbdmod.com)?
    Yes

    I have been wondering this also.  Is there any particular proxy that you could recommend?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 June 2014, 22:57:20


    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sun, 29 June 2014, 22:36:29
    Is there any particular proxy that you could recommend?

    Unfortunately i don't know of any Korean proxys. I was trying to buy from that site myself at one point and couldn't find someone to help me out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 30 June 2014, 16:40:39
    Can somebody weight this case? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271529923411#shpCntId
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Mon, 30 June 2014, 16:57:55
    When lubing an HHKB, is it necessary to pop out all the sliders so that you can lube the rails right the way down or is it OK to lube them with the sliders still in? Don't want to remove them all if it's not worth it!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 30 June 2014, 17:48:25
    Quote from: b7ad on Mon, 30 June 2014, 16:57:55
    When lubing an HHKB, is it necessary to pop out all the sliders so that you can lube the rails right the way down or is it OK to lube them with the sliders still in? Don't want to remove them all if it's not worth it!

    I'd do it sliders out.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 30 June 2014, 16:40:39
    Can somebody weight this case? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271529923411#shpCntId

    IIRC it's about .67lbs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Frenir on Mon, 30 June 2014, 17:55:25
    Does anyone know where I can get a cherry sticker?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Mon, 30 June 2014, 18:08:15
    Would say it's easier to swap switches or swap LEDs on a plate mounted keyboard? (example: If I wanted a Shine 3 with red switches and white LED, but could only find a red switch other colored LED, or white LED with other switch, which would be easier to convert into a Shine 3 with red switches and white LEDs, disregarding cost of switches/LED?)

    Would the size of the resistor pose a problem in swapping LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 30 June 2014, 18:53:10
    They both suck

    I'd say LEDs, since you have to take out the LED anyway to change the switch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Mon, 30 June 2014, 19:35:06
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 30 June 2014, 18:53:10
    They both suck

    If you use a soldapullt, yes :p

    I guess it's easier to just get a keyboard that you like or build one rather than modify a stock one eh?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 30 June 2014, 21:05:19
    yep

    although building it different, since it's only one way
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 June 2014, 21:19:04
    Quote from: Frenir on Mon, 30 June 2014, 17:55:25
    Does anyone know where I can get a cherry sticker?

    From the classifieds or free thread. They're were sold by Shadovved who is busy now.

    Quote from: minho on Mon, 30 June 2014, 18:08:15
    1) Would say it's easier to swap switches or swap LEDs on a plate mounted keyboard?

    2) Would the size of the resistor pose a problem in swapping LEDs?

    1) I would say if you're using a soldapult, switches are easier to swap. But you would have to desolder both switches and leds to do either swap anyways.

    2) I've never had an issue swapping leds. Ive never calculated anything. Just swapped them out. YMMV of course.

    Quote from: Pacifist on Mon, 30 June 2014, 16:40:39
    Can somebody weight this case? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271529923411#shpCntId

    It's definitely under a pound but I never took an actual measurement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 01 July 2014, 08:32:00
    what is the proper name for this type of caps lock? i've seen them referred to as center-stem, off-stem and stepped, which is the most correct?

    (http://i.imgur.com/f8PV5R7.jpg)

    also, are there anyone here who swapped the positions of their CTRL and caps lock? i'm curious if it was hard to accomplish and whether the new placement is better than the standard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 01 July 2014, 08:43:17
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 01 July 2014, 08:32:00
    what is the proper name for this type of caps lock? i've seen them referred to as center-stem, off-stem and stepped, which is the most correct?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/f8PV5R7.jpg)


    also, are there anyone here who swapped the positions of their CTRL and caps lock? i'm curious if it was hard to accomplish and whether the new placement is better than the standard

    My understanding:

    There are really two things that vary: center-stem or offset, and full-touch or stepped. Most stepped caps locks have an offset stem, but some of them are center-stemmed (usually from GB sets for people with e.g. a Filco but who prefer the look of a stepped caps lock). So what you posted is definitely stepped, and is likely offset.

    To answer your second question, yes, people swap ctrl and caps. No, it's not hard to accomplish (using software). And yes, many believe the new placement is better.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 01 July 2014, 08:53:04
    very succinct distinction, thank you. about my second question, do 1.25 Caps Lock even exist? or do people improvise with blank caps and such?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 01 July 2014, 08:56:34
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 01 July 2014, 08:32:00
    1. what is the proper name for this type of caps lock? i've seen them referred to as center-stem, off-stem and stepped, which is the most correct?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/f8PV5R7.jpg)


    2. also, are there anyone here who swapped the positions of their CTRL and caps lock? i'm curious if it was hard to accomplish and whether the new placement is better than the standard

    1. If the key has a step like in the picture you posted, it's called stepped, if not, fulltouch. Center-stem/off-center-stem refers to the position of the stem of the keycap, which is relevant when you want to put it on your board.
    Since stock caps usually use a fulltouch caps lock key, the switch is in the center of the cap and you will need a fulltouch caps lock key or a center stemmed stepped caps lock key.
    If you have a set that comes with an off-center stepped caps lock key, which has the stem in the center of the high part of the cap, it won't fit on most modern stock keyboards.

    Here's some pictures that should make things more clear: Off center stepped caps lock (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U36FdEgkLlM/Touq-RYy6pI/AAAAAAAAJJo/LtO97nozhpc/s912/2011-10-05%252009.50.36.jpg), center stemmed fulltouch caps lock (http://i.imgur.com/ctSwi.jpg)

    2. Some sets have them, I think some Realforce boards include replacements with their boards, too. I think many people don't mind if the legends are wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 01 July 2014, 09:33:08
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 01 July 2014, 08:53:04
    very succinct distinction, thank you. about my second question, do 1.25 Caps Lock even exist? or do people improvise with blank caps and such?

    Most often people just ignore the legends and remember the difference. Group buys occasionally include an add-on pack that replaces ctrl and caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 01 July 2014, 09:38:49
    thanks to both of you! even if they exist, center-stemmed, stepped key and off-center stemmed, full touch key just seem so unnatural to me. must be quite the hassle to produce. about the ctrl/capslock swap, i'm surprised having the incorrect legends on keys doesn't drive people insane. not too far-fetched a notion, considering we're having this discussion on a forum for keyboard enthusiasts/perfectionists :) can't tolerate it myself, but maybe it's just my OCD talking
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 01 July 2014, 09:42:03

    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 01 July 2014, 09:38:49
    thanks to both of you! even if they exist, center-stemmed, stepped key and off-center stemmed, full touch key just seem so unnatural to me. must be quite the hassle to produce. about the ctrl/capslock swap, i'm surprised having the incorrect legends on keys doesn't drive people insane. not too far-fetched a notion, considering we're having this discussion on a forum for keyboard enthusiasts/perfectionists :) can't tolerate it myself, but maybe it's just my OCD talking

    I touch-type. If anything, it's funny to watch people flounder when they use my keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 01 July 2014, 09:46:39
    doesn't take a touch typist to memorize the location of capslock/ctrl, heh. and you're too kind, i'd never let filthy peasants get their grubby hands on my aluminum housing and GMK caps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Tue, 01 July 2014, 11:10:29
    having troubles with a solder sucker on sucking solder off leds. any tips?

    my solder joint is whitish instead of silverish after the solder dries. will the switch work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 01 July 2014, 11:17:26
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 01 July 2014, 11:10:29
    1. having troubles with a solder sucker on sucking solder off leds. any tips?

    2. my solder joint is whitish instead of silverish after the solder dries. will the switch work?

    1. Add more solder if there is only a tiny rest of solder.

    2. What solder are you using?
    The white colour might come from moving parts while the solder cools down or it might be a cold joint, meaning that the soldering iron was too cold during soldering. Both can be fixed by simply reheating the joint with the iron (if you don't do that, the joint might work for now but can fail later).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 01 July 2014, 11:19:07
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 01 July 2014, 11:10:29
    having troubles with a solder sucker on sucking solder off leds. any tips?

    my solder joint is whitish instead of silverish after the solder dries. will the switch work?

    Add more solder and try to suck it again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Tue, 01 July 2014, 15:59:51
    I want to buy blank PBT keycaps for my keyboard. Is any difference in quality between keycool and ducky? I found that keycool cost cheaper with shipping to my country.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 01 July 2014, 17:03:18
    Quote from: Vitaly on Tue, 01 July 2014, 15:59:51
    I want to buy blank PBT keycaps for my keyboard. Is any difference in quality between keycool and ducky? I found that keycool cost cheaper with shipping to my country.

    What exact sets are you thinking about buying? Afaik Ducky has thick and thin PBT and I'm not sure about Keycool right now. Usually thick PBT is considered better.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 01 July 2014, 17:05:23
    ducky quality is defintly way better than keycool. But keycool is dirt cheap
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Tue, 01 July 2014, 17:13:58
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 01 July 2014, 17:03:18
    Usually thick PBT is considered better.
    Where I can buy thick keycaps? Tried to find but out of stock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 01 July 2014, 17:15:24
    You wanna try and find IMSTO keycaps for thick PBT. Or anything cherry profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Wed, 02 July 2014, 02:03:23
    Thanks, sent message to IMSTO, maybe he have blank pbt in stock
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:00:57
    Where can I get some screws, nuts, and washers for a Model M bolt mod?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:02:18
    Quote from: FrostyToast on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:00:57
    Where can I get some screws, nuts, and washers for a Model M bolt mod?

    McMaster-Carr or Fastenal. Here is the wiki article (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Modifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:04:01
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:02:18
    Quote from: FrostyToast on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:00:57
    Where can I get some screws, nuts, and washers for a Model M bolt mod?

    McMaster-Carr or Fastenal. Let me get you some part numbers...

    For McMaster-Carr, check out this link (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Modifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod#Hardware).

    Edit: Jinx on jdcarpe's ninja-edit!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:04:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:04:01
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:02:18
    Quote from: FrostyToast on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:00:57
    Where can I get some screws, nuts, and washers for a Model M bolt mod?

    McMaster-Carr or Fastenal. Let me get you some part numbers...

    For McMaster-Carr, check out this link (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Modifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod#Hardware).

    Edit: Jinx on jdcarpe's ninja-edit!

    Dat ninja edit... :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 02 July 2014, 16:13:46
    I ordered from McMaster a while back, however they said that they couldn't deliver to people unless they were a company or something along those lines.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 July 2014, 16:15:09
    Quote from: FrostyToast on Wed, 02 July 2014, 16:13:46
    I ordered from McMaster a while back, however they said that they couldn't deliver to people unless they were a company or something along those lines.

    I order from them all the time. You just use a credit card, and where it says Company on the shipping address, put your full name.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 02 July 2014, 16:25:07
    Is it possible to handmake traces in clear acrylic or other see through materials as a PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 July 2014, 16:39:00
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 02 July 2014, 16:25:07
    Is it possible to handmake traces in clear acrylic or other see through materials as a PCB?

    I don't see why not. It would be harder though since it's not conductive so your traces would have to be solid. You'd get this translucent PCB with little copper/metal traces in it. Could always do a simple test by taking one of those conductive pens, drawing on some plastic, then seeing if the multimeter would pick up a connection.

    That being said, my forte is *not* in electronics or electrical engineering so YMMV.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Wed, 02 July 2014, 18:14:58
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 02 July 2014, 16:25:07
    Is it possible to handmake traces in clear acrylic or other see through materials as a PCB?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Wed, 02 July 2014, 19:03:04
    Does anyone know if the KUL ES-87 PCB is backlighting compatible? Has anyone added backlighting to it before?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 02 July 2014, 19:03:25
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 02 July 2014, 19:03:04
    Does anyone know if the KUL ES-87 PCB is backlighting compatible? Has anyone added backlighting to it before?

    IIRC it's not but I'll have to look again
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 July 2014, 19:06:12
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 02 July 2014, 19:03:25
    Quote from: minho on Wed, 02 July 2014, 19:03:04
    Does anyone know if the KUL ES-87 PCB is backlighting compatible? Has anyone added backlighting to it before?

    IIRC it's not but I'll have to look again

    Nope, it's not. But backlighting is for plebes anyway. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 02 July 2014, 19:36:11
    Can somebody identify the caps here?

    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/products/Lightsaver1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383176776)

    Base is DE
    Top row starts at 13-24, don't know from where
    Numpad has blue legends, also don't know what
    Looks like GMK for the RGB and the enter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Wed, 02 July 2014, 23:36:36
    Quote from: Pacifist on Wed, 02 July 2014, 19:36:11
    Can somebody identify the caps here?
    Base is DE
    Top row starts at 13-24, don't know from where
    Numpad has blue legends, also don't know what
    Looks like GMK for the RGB and the enter
    Top row starts at 13-24, don't know from where => It should be from Cherry MX 2550 HPD
    Numpad has blue legends, also don't know what => It should be from Olivertti German layout the same Cherry MX 2550 HPD, DE layout - Cherry Double Shot
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:11:11
    What acutally is the HID Liberation Device? Is it a product of some company? An industry standard? I don’t get it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:12:26
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:11:11
    What is an HID Liberation Device? A product from a company? A industry standard? I don’t get it.
    It's a custom fully programmable controller designed by bpiphany for TKL Filcos.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:13:51
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:11:11
    What acutally is the HID Liberation Device? Is it a product of some company? An industry standard? I don’t get it.

    To answer your question further. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1244354;topicseen#msg1244354
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:14:13
    Ah, that answers my question, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cphead on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:43:13
    What's the best way to fix a busted trace on a pcb? As far as I can tell there's just a tiny exposed piece of copper, but the LEDs it connects to don't light up. :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:47:36
    Quote from: cphead on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:43:13
    What's the best way to fix a busted trace on a pcb? As far as I can tell there's just a tiny exposed piece of copper, but the LEDs it connects to don't light up. :rolleyes:
    Personally I would just grab a small wire and follow the trace to another spot and light up the led that way. Or you could try a conductive writing pen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cphead on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:58:33
    Quote from: Sifo on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:47:36
    Quote from: cphead on Thu, 03 July 2014, 01:43:13
    What's the best way to fix a busted trace on a pcb? As far as I can tell there's just a tiny exposed piece of copper, but the LEDs it connects to don't light up. :rolleyes:
    Personally I would just grab a small wire and follow the trace to another spot and light up the led that way. Or you could try a conductive writing pen.
    Will try the pen. Thanks for advice, based legit-baller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 03 July 2014, 16:14:28
    Is this paracord good for making cables? I need to replace my broken one
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/550-Paracord-Mil-Spec-Type-III-7-strand-parachute-cord-25ft-50ft-100-ft-/380718097522?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item58a4912472
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 16:29:40
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 03 July 2014, 16:14:28
    Is this paracord good for making cables? I need to replace my broken one
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/550-Paracord-Mil-Spec-Type-III-7-strand-parachute-cord-25ft-50ft-100-ft-/380718097522?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item58a4912472

    It may depend on the size of the cable.  I am using 28/24 cables (24 gauge power and 28 gauge data) and I don't think paracord will fit over it.  I know that paracord is often very tight.

    I have been using this (http://stores.ebay.com/HIFI-SPOT/PET-Expandable-Sleeving-/_i.html?_nkw=4mm&submit=Search&_fsub=4278458017&_sid=882388317) and I am very pleased with the results.  It is plastic though, not paracord...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 03 July 2014, 17:33:48
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 16:29:40

    It may depend on the size of the cable.  I am using 28/24 cables (24 gauge power and 28 gauge data) and I don't think paracord will fit over it.  I know that paracord is often very tight.

    I have been using this (http://stores.ebay.com/HIFI-SPOT/PET-Expandable-Sleeving-/_i.html?_nkw=4mm&submit=Search&_fsub=4278458017&_sid=882388317) and I am very pleased with the results.  It is plastic though, not paracord...

     That stuff isn't bad, but it's worth spending a little more on some Bitspower, Kobra HD, or MDPC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 19:27:21
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 03 July 2014, 17:33:48
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 16:29:40

    It may depend on the size of the cable.  I am using 28/24 cables (24 gauge power and 28 gauge data) and I don't think paracord will fit over it.  I know that paracord is often very tight.

    I have been using this (http://stores.ebay.com/HIFI-SPOT/PET-Expandable-Sleeving-/_i.html?_nkw=4mm&submit=Search&_fsub=4278458017&_sid=882388317) and I am very pleased with the results.  It is plastic though, not paracord...

     That stuff isn't bad, but it's worth spending a little more on some Bitspower, Kobra HD, or MDPC.

    I found MDPC to be substantially more expensive. I am sure it is nicer. The stuff I linked is closer to the price point of paracord, but is a nice middle ground between the two. I will look into the others you linked (not that I need it, I have more of that stuff than I can use). :)

    Thanks for the additional details.   
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jalberstone on Thu, 03 July 2014, 19:57:31
    Would the function keys on a realforce tkl board have any use on a mac?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:03:32
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Thu, 03 July 2014, 19:57:31
    Would the function keys on a realforce tkl board have any use on a mac?

    Do you personally use function keys on your Mac? Hard to make blanket statements when we don't know what you're using when you're on your Mac.

    For example, I have to have a numberpad and function keys for my work keyboard so I have to have a full size or 1800 layout. This is due to the software I use at work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jalberstone on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:06:14
    On my mac I just use what is there, like the brightness and volume controls. Will those work on the Realforce? Otherwise what would the function keys do or is there a way to program them to do something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:25:26
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:06:14
    On my mac I just use what is there, like the brightness and volume controls. Will those work on the Realforce? Otherwise what would the function keys do or is there a way to program them to do something?
    With KeyRemap4MacBook you could make the function keys do anything you want. In the system preferences you can set function keys also.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:43:10
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bare-Conductive-Electric-Paint-Pen-10ml-PCB-Repair-Electrical-Circuits-/111388550151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ef466407

    is this good for making traces on a clear surface?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:47:45
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:43:10
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bare-Conductive-Electric-Paint-Pen-10ml-PCB-Repair-Electrical-Circuits-/111388550151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ef466407

    is this good for making traces on a clear surface?

    That's what I suggested using in the earlier post. However, the video that Smasher816 found was using copper wire. Buy both and see what happens?

    Quote from: Jalberstone on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:06:14
    On my mac I just use what is there, like the brightness and volume controls. Will those work on the Realforce? Otherwise what would the function keys do or is there a way to program them to do something?

    Don't see why it wouldn't but I'm not a Mac or Topre user. But MJ45 seems to have a good point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:48:41
    Quote from: MJ45 on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:25:26
    Quote from: Jalberstone on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:06:14
    On my mac I just use what is there, like the brightness and volume controls. Will those work on the Realforce? Otherwise what would the function keys do or is there a way to program them to do something?
    With KeyRemap4MacBook you could make the function keys do anything you want. In the system preferences you can set function keys also.

    This is what I do. I use my F keys as volume, brightness, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:51:59
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:43:10
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bare-Conductive-Electric-Paint-Pen-10ml-PCB-Repair-Electrical-Circuits-/111388550151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ef466407

    is this good for making traces on a clear surface?

    I am getting a 500 error with that link on my phone. Is the -/ correct? That does not look like a correct url.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:54:06
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:51:59
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:43:10
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bare-Conductive-Electric-Paint-Pen-10ml-PCB-Repair-Electrical-Circuits-/111388550151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ef466407

    is this good for making traces on a clear surface?

    I am getting a 500 error with that link on my phone. Is the -/ correct? That does not look like a correct url.

    URL Is working fine for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 21:04:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:54:06
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:51:59
    Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 03 July 2014, 20:43:10
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bare-Conductive-Electric-Paint-Pen-10ml-PCB-Repair-Electrical-Circuits-/111388550151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ef466407

    is this good for making traces on a clear surface?

    I am getting a 500 error with that link on my phone. Is the -/ correct? That does not look like a correct url.

    URL Is working fine for me.

    Sorry, my bad.  It works fine on the computer...  Wasn't working on my phone for some reason.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 03 July 2014, 22:10:28
    If I remember correct mkawa (someone at least) tried using them for tweaking traces on a Model M membrane and found the resistance of it to be to high to use for more than just fixing cracked/broken traces.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 03 July 2014, 23:07:08
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 21:04:21
    Sorry, my bad.  It works fine on the computer...  Wasn't working on my phone for some reason.

    Do you have an ad-blocking hosts file on your phone? I sometimes have problems with Tapatalk and other links, and i suspect that is the cause.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 23:12:30
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 03 July 2014, 23:07:08
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 21:04:21
    Sorry, my bad.  It works fine on the computer...  Wasn't working on my phone for some reason.

    Do you have an ad-blocking hosts file on your phone? I sometimes have problems with Tapatalk and other links, and i suspect that is the cause.

    no, i think it has something to do with where the url wrapped and I think only part of the url was followed.  not entirely sure, but thats my hunch...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nukec on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:02:13
    Still looking for KBC or Ducky Blank Black PBT keycaps, anyone sees anything in stock anywhere? :(

    60% alu plate anywhere in stock?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 04 July 2014, 06:23:36
    Quote from: nukec on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:02:13
    Still looking for KBC or Ducky Blank Black PBT keycaps, anyone sees anything in stock anywhere? :(

    60% alu plate anywhere in stock?

    Ducky Nordic on Deskthority has some blank black sets in stock.

    Imsto seems to be out of stock for plates but GON still has some: http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/accessaries/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 July 2014, 08:37:12

    Quote from: nukec on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:02:13
    60% alu plate anywhere in stock?

    Does it have to be aluminum? I think Imsto has some stainless steel plates as well. But I'm not sure I've seen many aluminum 60% plates.

    Edit: I can't read. See BlueBar's post above about Imsto's stock :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Fri, 04 July 2014, 08:41:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 July 2014, 08:37:12


    Quote from: nukec on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:02:13
    60% alu plate anywhere in stock?

    Does it have to be aluminum? I think Imsto has some stainless steel plates as well. But I'm not sure I've seen many aluminum 60% plates.

    GON sells a Universal Frame/Plate for 60%:
    http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/accessaries/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:35:58
    I just received my new white PBT keycaps, but space key is bent as you can see in the pic. For using it works perfectly, but still would be nice to have it straight, I wonder is it possible to straighten it somehow or not really?

    (http://i.imgur.com/OFLy5B0.jpg?1)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:37:33
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:35:58
    I just received my new white PBT keycaps, but space key is bent as you can see in the pic. For using it works perfectly, but still would be nice to have it straight, I wonder is it possible to straighten it somehow or not really?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/OFLy5B0.jpg?1)


    Get a hair dryer and warm it up a bit, then put something heavy on top of it (make sure to distribute weight evenly). PBT warps easily
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:45:40
    you can ensure even weight distribution with a flat object, like a few books
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:53:38
    Thanks guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:08:30
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:37:33
    PBT warps easily

    Wait, what? Do you mean ABS?

    I have boiled PBT caps in dye for half an hour with no harm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:09:24
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:08:30
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:37:33
    PBT warps easily

    Wait, what? Do you mean ABS?

    I have boiled PBT caps in dye for half an hour with no harm.
    No pbt warps really easily.. that's why they tend to come bent. They are heat resistant but they warp
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:10:06
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:09:24
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:08:30
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:37:33
    PBT warps easily

    Wait, what? Do you mean ABS?

    I have boiled PBT caps in dye for half an hour with no harm.
    No pbt warps really easily.. that's why they tend to come bent. They are heat resistant but they warp

    specifically when its fully melted and being cooled
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 July 2014, 21:21:38
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:10:06
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:09:24
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:08:30
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:37:33
    PBT warps easily

    Wait, what? Do you mean ABS?

    I have boiled PBT caps in dye for half an hour with no harm.
    No pbt warps really easily.. that's why they tend to come bent. They are heat resistant but they warp

    specifically when its fully melted and being cooled

    Pretty sure it's due to how the material cools and shrinkage that causes the warping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 04 July 2014, 21:30:08
    Man how I hate shrinkage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 04 July 2014, 22:07:41
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 04 July 2014, 21:30:08
    Man how I hate shrinkage.

    heh
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 04 July 2014, 22:38:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 July 2014, 21:21:38
    Quote from: Pacifist on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:10:06
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:09:24
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 July 2014, 19:08:30
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 04 July 2014, 15:37:33
    PBT warps easily

    Wait, what? Do you mean ABS?

    I have boiled PBT caps in dye for half an hour with no harm.
    No pbt warps really easily.. that's why they tend to come bent. They are heat resistant but they warp

    specifically when its fully melted and being cooled

    Pretty sure it's due to how the material cools and shrinkage that causes the warping.

    Yup PBT has a much higher thermal expansion coefficient than ABS, hence the warping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nukec on Sat, 05 July 2014, 04:04:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 July 2014, 08:37:12

    Quote from: nukec on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:02:13
    60% alu plate anywhere in stock?

    Does it have to be aluminum? I think Imsto has some stainless steel plates as well. But I'm not sure I've seen many aluminum 60% plates.

    Edit: I can't read. See BlueBar's post above about Imsto's stock :(

    imsto has them out of stock, no matter it says 280 available. i've sent an email to gonskeyboardworks though, waiting reply. do you know any difference between the types of anodizing here? soft and hard? http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/accessaries/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html are there any pictures with differences?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 05 July 2014, 04:17:15
    Quote from: nukec on Sat, 05 July 2014, 04:04:07
    imsto has them out of stock, no matter it says 280 available. i've sent an email to gonskeyboardworks though, waiting reply. do you know any difference between the types of anodizing here? soft and hard? http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/accessaries/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html are there any pictures with differences?

    Hard anodizing is more scratch resistant than soft anodizing. As you can see on his site you can only get a gray plate if you want hard anodizing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nukec on Sat, 05 July 2014, 05:05:29
    thanks, i will go with silver soft

    btw is there any generator for these sexy keyboards in signature: (http://i.imgur.com/bjbTAdg.gif)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 05 July 2014, 05:55:12
    Quote from: nukec on Sat, 05 July 2014, 05:05:29
    thanks, i will go with silver soft

    btw is there any generator for these sexy keyboards in signature:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/bjbTAdg.gif)
    ?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 05 July 2014, 16:49:41
    Are the classifieds the only way to obtain KMAC's today? In an e-mail, Sheraton told me DIY kits were gone indefinitely due to no more availability.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 05 July 2014, 16:51:07
    IIRC they sell them on KBDlab but you have to get a proxy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 05 July 2014, 16:52:03
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 05 July 2014, 16:51:07
    IIRC they sell them on KBDlab but you have to get a proxy
    Oh cool, thanks TS! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 05 July 2014, 16:53:13
    it's pretty weird though, so don't freak out if you have a hard time getting one

    and between you and me i've always liked GON boards a lot more
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:00:46
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 05 July 2014, 16:53:13
    it's pretty weird though, so don't freak out if you have a hard time getting one

    and between you and me i've always liked GON boards a lot more
    He was next on my list actually, the allure of the korean custom has really hit me hard lately, haha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:19:47
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 05 July 2014, 16:53:13
    and between you and me i've always liked GON boards a lot more

    I like KMACs more than GONs but both are solid. And yeah, classifieds are the only way to grab them at this point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:28:07
    is this cherry or are they just saying that?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retro-Vintage-Cherry-MX-Black-Switch-USB-Keyboard-Double-Shot-Injection-Molded/360976288275?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23772%26meid%3D8109281367554166080%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10164%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D390876015611&rt=nc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:30:16
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:28:07
    is this cherry or are they just saying that?
    http://bit.ly/1jUqgDJ

    Could be, but I've never seen an old Cherry board with spherical caps. And they didn't take a picture of the switches so it's hard to say for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:37:12
    Quote from: Pacifist on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:28:07
    is this cherry or are they just saying that?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retro-Vintage-Cherry-MX-Black-Switch-USB-Keyboard-Double-Shot-Injection-Molded/360976288275?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23772%26meid%3D8109281367554166080%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10164%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D390876015611&rt=nc

    Doesn't look Cherry made to me, could use Cherry switches though. I kind of doubt it. On the other side, it has a USB connector so someone seems to know what they're doing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:18:48
    are there that many Korean customs brands? i know of KMAC, GON, LZ, 356 and Duck. anyone else i'm missing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:21:58
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:18:48
    are there that many Korean customs brands? i know of KMAC, GON, LZ, 356 and Duck. anyone else i'm missing?

    Wouldn't really call those brands but rather series. There's more boards from OTD than just the 356 (456GT for example).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:32:01
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:21:58
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:18:48
    are there that many Korean customs brands? i know of KMAC, GON, LZ, 356 and Duck. anyone else i'm missing?

    Wouldn't really call those brands but rather series. There's more boards from OTD than just the 356 (456GT for example).

    yeah

    there are too many to list really

    like all 5-6 KMAC versions (2.1 now?)

    or all of Duck's boards and all the incarnations of the duck poker

    you've basically got the gist of it really
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:36:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:30:16
    Could be, but I've never seen an old Cherry board with spherical caps.

    I have bought old typewriters and keyboards with "+" or "cross" shaped stems, only to discover that they are significantly too big and/or fat to work on modern Cherry keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:42:04
    wow, the 456GT looks filthy good, but then i have yet to see a bad looking Korean board. this might be a naive question, but do Korean "manufacturers" incorporate public opinion/feedback into their creations? i'm wondering if, say, i get a group of people to lobby for a Duck MX-MINI board hard enough, will he design one or is it just wishful thinking?

    side queston: do you guys have experience with both side LEDs and in-switch LEDs, and if you could only choose one which will it be? i'm not sure if inswitch LEDs/backlighting are very useful when i spend most of my computer time at night/in a dark room. the plus side is that they are very photogenic, they have that wow factor that you can impress people with (a big motivator for splashing the cash on an expensive keyboard, heh), and you can just turn them off when you want to
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:44:57
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:42:04
    1) Do Korean "manufacturers" incorporate public opinion/feedback into their creations?

    2) I'm wondering if, say, i get a group of people to lobby for a Duck MX-MINI board hard enough, will he design one or is it just wishful thinking?

    3) Do you guys have experience with both side LEDs and in-switch LEDs?

    1) They might from the Korean forums. The thing is, the Korean forums operate very differently from say Geekhack and Deskthority. A lot of it is hidden from non-Koreans and a lot of the boards can only be bought in GBs through the the closed areas in their froums.

    2) You can try contacting duck0113 and asking him. I know Kaliet will do custom commissions. See Binge's 2TU.

    3) What's a "side LED"? Like how Sifo has the LEDs in his GON?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:48:20
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:42:04
    1. this might be a naive question, but do Korean "manufacturers" incorporate public opinion/feedback into their creations?
    2. i'm wondering if, say, i get a group of people to lobby for a Duck MX-MINI board hard enough, will he design one or is it just wishful thinking?
    3. do you guys have experience with both side LEDs and in-switch LEDs, and if you could only choose one which will it be?

    1. Kind of, some Korean keyboard, I can't remember which, got some recessed parts in it's case in a later version due to people complaining that they couldn't pick them up very well because of it's weight and it not having something you could use as a grip.
    2. Rather not, maybe if you get a lot of people, not sure.
    3. I don't know what you mean with side LEDs. All current MX boards with backlighting use the slots in the switches afaik.

    Sniped!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:04:27
    1. that's cool, but seems like GH doesn't have a lot of say there unless a creator comes here asking for feedback, which i've never seen happen before, and i've read a decent amount of old threads on this board

    2. so it's like organizing an IC -> GB in a way? there's no way i can do that. i don't know much about 2TU except that it's a 60% board which doesn't interest me, but i'll check it out

    3. by side LEDs i mean the light emanating from the 4 sides of the board, like Sifo's board, this NerD GON by yuiop with the green glow

    (http://i.imgur.com/LKPV9vo.jpg)

    or this Duck Orion which radiates a very vivid red

    (http://cfile10.uf.tistory.com/image/231F934952DA5F991DC025)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:13:46
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:04:27
    1. that's cool, but seems like GH doesn't have a lot of say there unless a creator comes here asking for feedback, which i've never seen happen before, and i've read a decent amount of old threads on this board

    2. so it's like organizing an IC -> GB in a way? there's no way i can do that. i don't know much about 2TU except that it's a 60% board which doesn't interest me, but i'll check it out

    3. by side LEDs i mean the light emanating from the 4 sides of the board, like Sifo's board, this NerD GON by yuiop with the green glow

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/LKPV9vo.jpg)


    or this Duck Orion which radiates a very vivid red

    Show Image
    (http://cfile10.uf.tistory.com/image/231F934952DA5F991DC025)


    1) Again, see my previous response. We have very little say on the Korean forums.

    2) It's like emailing duck0113 or Kaliet and asking them if they'd make you a one off. If you wanted to do a GB, which you don't, that'd be the same process. Just on a larger scale. And a side note, one off customs can be pricey.

    3) Those have in switch LEDs and then either a clear case or holes cut into the case to allow LEDs to shine out of the sides or bottom. It's not a in-switch vs "side". It's inswitch + "side".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:44:38
    2. i think "can be pricey" is probably understatement :) after all, you'd be owning the only model of it in the world. didn't know you could do this though, i very much appreciate the info

    3. GON's MX-MINI board has options for either side LEDs or in-switch LEDs so i naturally assumed that they are independent of each other. the more you know~
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:46:15
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:44:38
    2. i think "can be pricey" is probably understatement :) after all, you'd be owning the only model of it in the world. didn't know you could do this though, i very much appreciate the info

    I think Photekq said his TEK-80 cost 500 pounds to machine total? If that helps give you a price range. I was given a quote of $3000 for a 60% aluminum case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:48:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:46:15
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:44:38
    2. i think "can be pricey" is probably understatement :) after all, you'd be owning the only model of it in the world. didn't know you could do this though, i very much appreciate the info

    I think Photekq said his TEK-80 cost 500 pounds to machine total? If that helps give you a price range. I was given a quote of $3000 for a 60% aluminum case.
    500£ including materials, laser cutting and anodising. The machining was £250 i think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:56:14
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 19:04:27
    1. that's cool, but seems like GH doesn't have a lot of say there unless a creator comes here asking for feedback, which i've never seen happen before, and i've read a decent amount of old threads on this board

    2. so it's like organizing an IC -> GB in a way? there's no way i can do that. i don't know much about 2TU except that it's a 60% board which doesn't interest me, but i'll check it out

    3. by side LEDs i mean the light emanating from the 4 sides of the board, like Sifo's board, this NerD GON by yuiop with the green glow

    1. we've done customs before but i think the skeldon had only 5 buyers (i think i can name all of them too...)

    2. it's more than that, it's about communicating with a shop, knowing who's reputable in terms of PCB manufacturing/machining other things, and handling extra costs

    3. ask GON in his forum, he's very active there
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 05 July 2014, 20:23:44
    No, side LEDs are either SMD (for NerD specifically it has SMD LED spots), or you hand wire LEDs and position them underneath the PCB, it's completely separate from in switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 July 2014, 20:25:10
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 05 July 2014, 20:23:44
    No, side LEDs are either SMD (for NerD specifically it has SMD LED spots), or you hand wire LEDs and position them underneath the PCB, it's completely separate from in switch.

    Right, I just meant that you can use the same LED to create that effect. Like how you have 2x3x4 LEDs for your in-switch and then bent to create the side lighting effect on your GON.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 05 July 2014, 20:25:45
    My GON is a horrible example that thing is so poorly done, if I ever get a chance to I will re do it now that I'm more experienced ;P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:06:33
    What's a good set of 104 pbt keycaps (for a filco mj2)? I'm just looking for something as cheap as possible but still good quality.

    These look nice, but they're kind of expensive: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=773

    I was probably just going to get these, despite the ugly font: http://m.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Green-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099852343

    Any suggestions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:08:01
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:06:33
    What's a good set of 104 pbt keycaps (for a filco mj2)? I'm just looking for something as cheap as possible but still good quality.

    These look nice, but they're kind of expensive: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=773

    I was probably just going to get these, despite the ugly font: http://ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Green-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099852343

    Any suggestions?

    The Vortex doubleshots are probably your best bet for cheap and still good. If you're willing to spend money, I suggest trying to find a set of BSP PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:13:55
    Just searched those up and they do look nice. If I can find them for a decent price I'll consider them. Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:15:32
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:06:33
    What's a good set of 104 pbt keycaps (for a filco mj2)? I'm just looking for something as cheap as possible but still good quality.

    These look nice, but they're kind of expensive: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=773

    I was probably just going to get these, despite the ugly font: http://m.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Green-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099852343

    Any suggestions?

    I agree with CPT. You can probably find some vortex doubleshots in the classifieds for 35-40$.

    You might be able to find some thick cherry dye sub IMSTOs for 65-70$.

    I am still using imsto pbt caps on my daily driver.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:32:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:08:01
    Quote from: Rena on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:06:33
    What's a good set of 104 pbt keycaps (for a filco mj2)? I'm just looking for something as cheap as possible but still good quality.

    These look nice, but they're kind of expensive: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=773

    I was probably just going to get these, despite the ugly font: http://ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Green-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099852343

    Any suggestions?

    The Vortex doubleshots are probably your best bet for cheap and still good. If you're willing to spend money, I suggest trying to find a set of BSP PBT.

    he said for a filco 104

    but BSP is still the best
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 July 2014, 12:01:15
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:32:06
    he said for a filco 104

    but BSP is still the best

    What are you referring to? Don't both Vortex and BSP come in 104?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 06 July 2014, 12:16:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 July 2014, 12:01:15
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:32:06
    he said for a filco 104

    but BSP is still the best

    What are you referring to? Don't both Vortex and BSP come in 104?

    what

    BSP doesn't make 1.25x mods

    this is common knowledge
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 July 2014, 12:16:31
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 06 July 2014, 12:16:02
    BSP doesn't make 1.25x mods

    this is common knowledge

    I didn't know that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 06 July 2014, 12:57:42
     :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 06 July 2014, 12:58:26
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 06 July 2014, 12:16:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 July 2014, 12:01:15
    What are you referring to? Don't both Vortex and BSP come in 104?

    what

    BSP doesn't make 1.25x mods

    this is common knowledge

    I though everone knew that  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:11:28
    I figured there were older vintage boards that had BSP 1.25x mods. Guess not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:54:10
    What SA-profile sets exist that support ErgoDox?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sun, 06 July 2014, 16:01:44
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:54:10
    What SA-profile sets exist that support ErgoDox?

    23 Commando at least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 06 July 2014, 16:48:57
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:54:10
    What SA-profile sets exist that support ErgoDox?

    Penumbra as well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Larken on Mon, 07 July 2014, 00:05:11
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:54:10
    What SA-profile sets exist that support ErgoDox?

    and also, Calm Depths.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 07:29:09
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 05 July 2014, 18:42:04
    Do Korean "manufacturers" incorporate public opinion/feedback into their creations?

    Apparently wishes do come true! Check out this Duck 75% keyboard interest check (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60293.msg1389650#msg1389650).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 07 July 2014, 08:24:09
    wowow. not subscribed to that particular board so this would have flown right past me, thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 08:26:49
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 07 July 2014, 08:24:09
    wowow. not subscribed to that particular board so this would have flown right past me, thank you!

    Every so often, you should hit "Spy" in the Home bar towards the top of the page. It shows you all the most recently responded to topics in the last hour or so and automatically updates when  there are new posts. I think it's the best way to see what's going on with the forum and to catch things you don't normally see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:44:16
    anyone know how to change the tip on a soldapullt? mine needs a changing
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:47:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:44:16
    anyone know how to change the tip on a soldapullt? mine needs a changing

    So flip it over so that charging handle is facing towards the desk. Then hold the barrel and push down on that handle as hard as you can. The tip will pop off. You pull that out and push on the new one.

    Mkawa shows how to do it in the video below (forgot the timestamp where he does it exactly, just skip around until you find it):

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:49:49
    cool hopefully I can manage to get LEDs joints desoldered now...

    also, another random question, I've forgotten the korean weights-to-cherry stock scale, cause I haven't thought about it in months

    how would 59g springs match up against stock blacks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:52:45
    Stock Blacks are around 80g on the Korean scale.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:53:30
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:49:49
    how would 59g springs match up against stock blacks?

    If you want to have an approximation, this post from WFD might be helpful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38410.msg743707#msg743707). But I'd just do some maths using the information from rkinze's findings (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0).

    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:52:45
    Stock Blacks are around 80g on the Korean scale.

    I was thinking that too but I wasn't sure. Danke.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 10:00:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:53:30
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:49:49
    how would 59g springs match up against stock blacks?

    If you want to have an approximation, this post from WFD might be helpful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38410.msg743707#msg743707). But I'd just do some maths using the information from rkinze's findings (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0).

    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:52:45
    Stock Blacks are around 80g on the Korean scale.

    I was thinking that too but I wasn't sure. Danke.

    thanks dudes

    finding my 'perfect' spring is such a bother lol...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:09:17
    Has there ever existed a full size metal case for a Filco?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:13:59
    Quote from: Battou62 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:09:17
    Has there ever existed a full size metal case for a Filco?
    Yes, the Filco LE (FKB108AL/NB). Feng has one for sale here (#63) (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305)

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54560.0;attach=58769;image)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:16:21
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:13:59
    Quote from: Battou62 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:09:17
    Has there ever existed a full size metal case for a Filco?
    Yes, the Filco LE (FKB108AL/NB). Feng has one for sale here (#63) (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305)

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54560.0;attach=58769;image)


    Yes I have seen that, I should have been more specific. Anything other than that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:59:26
    Quote from: Battou62 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:16:21
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:13:59
    Quote from: Battou62 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:09:17
    Has there ever existed a full size metal case for a Filco?
    Yes, the Filco LE (FKB108AL/NB). Feng has one for sale here (#63) (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305)

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54560.0;attach=58769;image)


    Yes I have seen that, I should have been more specific. Anything other than that?

    Not that I can think of other than that. Does anyone know if those full size LZ boards will take a Filco PCB? That might be the only option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 12:26:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:59:26
    Not that I can think of other than that. Does anyone know if those full size LZ boards will take a Filco PCB? That might be the only option.

    I seriously doubt a filco pcb would fit a TRIK X case

    cpt remember last year some dude made a thread saying he was going to try and make fullsize aluminum filco cases? I only remember because you were so excited for it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 12:29:08
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 12:26:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:59:26
    Not that I can think of other than that. Does anyone know if those full size LZ boards will take a Filco PCB? That might be the only option.

    I seriously doubt a filco pcb would fit a TRIK X case

    Yeah I was doubtful too but I wasn't 100% sure.

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 12:26:52
    cpt remember last year some dude made a thread saying he was going to try and make fullsize aluminum filco cases? I only remember because you were so excited for it

    I never saw anything come of it. I think i remember what you're referring to. The only progress I've seen on the full size aluminum case front is jdcarpe's plate thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 12:30:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 12:29:08
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Mon, 07 July 2014, 12:26:52
    cpt remember last year some dude made a thread saying he was going to try and make fullsize aluminum filco cases? I only remember because you were so excited for it

    I never saw anything come of it. I think i remember what you're referring to. The only progress I've seen on the full size aluminum case front is jdcarpe's plate thread.

    Yeah I don't remember seeing any final products but remember a lot of interest in it, oh well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 07 July 2014, 14:31:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 08:26:49
    Every so often, you should hit "Spy" in the Home bar towards the top of the page. It shows you all the most recently responded to topics in the last hour or so and automatically updates when  there are new posts. I think it's the best way to see what's going on with the forum and to catch things you don't normally see.
    that's actually what i used to do before i started subscribing to a few specific boards that align with my interests.

    the links regarding spring weight are very intriguing, and also very confusing. what i took from reading them is that weight of the spring plays a much bigger role than the type of the switch. am i completely off base?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 14:49:42
    Can I do a small  promotion for non keyboard related items for my ebay account? If so point me in the right direction if not np. (MTG Cards)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 07 July 2014, 14:51:30
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 14:49:42
    Can I do a small  promotion for non keyboard related items for my ebay account? If so point me in the right direction if not np. (MTG Cards)

    Sure, right here at member auction links (http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=161.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:02:11
    ty
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MTManiac on Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:08:25
    Does this look like buckling spring to anyone?


    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:11:49
    Quote from: MTManiac on Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:08:25
    Does this look like buckling spring to anyone?


    (Attachment Link)
    That is not buckling spring, that is a buckling rubber sleeve or whatever you call it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MTManiac on Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:22:33
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:11:49
    Quote from: MTManiac on Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:08:25
    Does this look like buckling spring to anyone?


    (Attachment Link)
    That is not buckling spring, that is a buckling rubber sleeve or whatever you call it.

    Thanks for the clarification. It didn't look like a spring but was hard to tell.

    When it shows up, I'll post a better pic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Toxic-i- on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:32:00
    Hello, i have a question, from where i can get a Keyboard Layout? (the sheet of paper under a Key set,  so that I can arrange the buttons)
    Need TKL and Iso 105 Key also.... or only 105 Key Ansi and/or Iso. As i search I saw only a picture of a 89 Base Layout but no link.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:34:02
    Quote from: Toxic-i- on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:32:00
    Hello, i have a question, from where i can get a Keyboard Layout? (the sheet of paper under a Key set,  so that I can arrange the buttons)
    Need TKL and Iso 105 Key also.... or only 105 Key Ansi and/or Iso. As i search I saw only a picture of a 89 Base Layout but no link.

    It's in the OP: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_HHH
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:34:23
    Quote from: Toxic-i- on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:32:00
    Hello, i have a question, from where i can get a Keyboard Layout? (the sheet of paper under a Key set,  so that I can arrange the buttons)

    It's in the OP

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_HHH

    Quote from: Toxic-i- on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:32:00
    Need TKL and Iso 105 Key also.... or only 105 Key Ansi and/or Iso. As i search I saw only a picture of a 89 Base Layout but no link.

    The sheet has the full 104 ANSI
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:42:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:34:23
    Quote from: Toxic-i- on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:32:00
    Hello, i have a question, from where i can get a Keyboard Layout? (the sheet of paper under a Key set,  so that I can arrange the buttons)

    It's in the OP

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_HHH

    Quote from: Toxic-i- on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:32:00
    Need TKL and Iso 105 Key also.... or only 105 Key Ansi and/or Iso. As i search I saw only a picture of a 89 Base Layout but no link.

    The sheet has the full 104 ANSI

    Are there any plans to reissue the laminated version?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:43:44
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:42:19
    Are there any plans to reissue the laminated version?

    I haven't heard anything about it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jalberstone on Mon, 07 July 2014, 23:18:06
    I love the layout of the FC660C and think it is perfect, but I hear so much praise from the Realforce 55g of being the perfect switch. How superior is it over the Leopold? I still like the tkl form factor and would have no problem getting the Realforce if it really is that much better. I am not worried about the extra weight on the 55g because I have no problem typing on greens or clears. However, I am a bit concerned with the big top bezel on the Realforce because I do not know how well it will fit on my laptop (I have a macbook pro 15 inch), and I do not like how the usb port is towards the right side on the Leopold because the usb ports on my laptop are on the right side (the cable might get in the way). Any suggestions of what I should go with?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 08 July 2014, 02:19:02
    55g is more tactile, more poppy in comparison to 45g. It's of course heavier, too but if you don't mind the weight I would recommend you rather the 55g than the 45g switches. I have never tried the FC660C myself though (I only tried a 104UW so I can compare 45 and 55g).

    The Realforce should have cable canals to make the cables go out of the back or one of the sides.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 08 July 2014, 02:34:14
    How many/what boards was the so called 'Super Black' Cherry switch officially used in? Was it used before lock-switches were implemented, is that why they exist, as a deterrent switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 08 July 2014, 03:15:28
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Tue, 08 July 2014, 02:34:14
    How many/what boards was the so called 'Super Black' Cherry switch officially used in? Was it used before lock-switches were implemented, is that why they exist, as a deterrent switch?

    From the DT wiki:
    Cherry G80-1600 Prog and Laser keys.
    Cherry G80-2100 Cherry, Layer and Print Screen keys.
    Cherry G80-5000 Windows keys and Context Menu key. Only on the HAMxx variant (not HAAxx variant).
    Cherry G81-8308 Unknown keys.

    Not sure what you mean, how are MX Locks deterrent? Unless you don't mean those? They serve a completly different purpose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 08 July 2014, 04:35:59
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 08 July 2014, 03:15:28
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Tue, 08 July 2014, 02:34:14
    How many/what boards was the so called 'Super Black' Cherry switch officially used in? Was it used before lock-switches were implemented, is that why they exist, as a deterrent switch?

    Not sure what you mean, how are MX Locks deterrent? Unless you don't mean those? They serve a completly different purpose.

    I mean; were Super Blacks so heavy because they were designed to not be tapped or pressed by mistake, as a lock switch would prevent, but perhaps pre-dating the lock mechanism, yet still serving the same purpose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 08 July 2014, 04:59:05
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Tue, 08 July 2014, 04:35:59
    I mean; were Super Blacks so heavy because they were designed to not be tapped or pressed by mistake, as a lock switch would prevent, but perhaps pre-dating the lock mechanism, yet still serving the same purpose.

    Oh you mean those things that go around the switch? Those are rather permanent and need to be installed/deinstalled and a super black just needs more force. Super blacks are for not accidentally pressing a key but still being able to while those lock thingys are for permanently blocking a key. Their purpose is similar but not the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 07:47:08
    when i am soldering, do i heat the switch pins, the ring (the metallic ring surround the pin hole ) or both?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 July 2014, 07:50:17
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 07:47:08
    when i am soldering, do i heat the switch pins, the ring (the metallic ring surround the pin hole ) or both?

    I do the pad or ring typically. Both works as well. The pins alone don't seem to distribute the heat very well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:12:04
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 07:47:08
    when i am soldering, do i heat the switch pins, the ring (the metallic ring surround the pin hole ) or both?

    You should try to heat both the pin and the ring at the same time otherwise you can get cold solder joints.

    Once you start feeding solder in, you should just be touching the pin with the solder and it should melt and flow into the hole.

    If you have more questions, the 'living soldering thread' is a great resource and everyone is very kind and knowledgeable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:22:18
    oh that's called a pad, thanks guys!
    ps getting burned at 330c is not funny
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:28:25
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:22:18
    oh that's called a pad, thanks guys!
    ps getting burned at 330c is not funny

    Yep. Mine just healed.

    (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/08/3epagy9u.jpg)

    Yes, the ring is called a pad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:35:17

    Quote from: swill on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:28:25
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:22:18
    oh that's called a pad, thanks guys!
    ps getting burned at 330c is not funny

    Yep. Mine just healed.

    Show Image
    (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/08/3epagy9u.jpg)


    Yes, the ring is called a pad.
    ouch!

    btw, did you see my thread about my pas coming off :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:35:48
    pad*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 08 July 2014, 09:13:57
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:35:48
    pad*

    You can modify your post so you don't end up needing to double post to correct yourself.  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 July 2014, 09:17:20
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 08 July 2014, 08:35:17
    btw, did you see my thread about my pas coming off :(

    For anyone reading this later, he's referring to this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60342.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 08 July 2014, 17:32:37
    Is it possible to rebind the numlock key in tenkeypad with autohotkey?  All regular numberpad keys work except for this one.  Also is there a way to rebind the 4 extra keys at the top ? esc, tab, backspace, =
    I, at least don't use = one, starting formulas with + in excel work exactly the same.  I have filco tenkeypad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:55:17
    Non blank cheap DSA keycaps? I've found only those blanks in the Signature Plastics site ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:59:16
    Quote from: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:55:17
    Non blank cheap DSA keycaps? I've found only those blanks in the Signature Plastics site ...

    How cheap?  DSA Dolch (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-dolch-set-base-set-110-total-keys) starts from $70.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 19:19:05
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:59:16
    Quote from: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:55:17
    Non blank cheap DSA keycaps? I've found only those blanks in the Signature Plastics site ...

    How cheap?  DSA Dolch (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-dolch-set-base-set-110-total-keys) starts from $70.
    yes, I saw this one and already bought it.
    I'm looking for anything cheaper - around 30 or 40 bucks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Tue, 08 July 2014, 19:28:26
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 08 July 2014, 17:32:37
    Is it possible to rebind the numlock key in tenkeypad with autohotkey?  All regular numberpad keys work except for this one.  Also is there a way to rebind the 4 extra keys at the top ? esc, tab, backspace, =
    I, at least don't use = one, starting formulas with + in excel work exactly the same.  I have filco tenkeypad.

    Doesn't look like there is anything special. http://www.autohotkey.com/board/topic/64436-remapping-numlock-key/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:05:26
    Quote from: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 19:19:05
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:59:16
    Quote from: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:55:17
    Non blank cheap DSA keycaps? I've found only those blanks in the Signature Plastics site ...

    How cheap?  DSA Dolch (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-dolch-set-base-set-110-total-keys) starts from $70.
    yes, I saw this one and already bought it.
    I'm looking for anything cheaper - around 30 or 40 bucks.

    Not sure you'll find many at that price.

    You just missed the Granite (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/granite-set-pbt-dye-sub-dsa/) set, that was $35 or so.

    If you look around Classifieds you will probably find a few people selling their Granite sets - seems some sets were not up to expectations.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:10:10
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:05:26
    Quote from: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 19:19:05
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:59:16
    Quote from: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:55:17
    Non blank cheap DSA keycaps? I've found only those blanks in the Signature Plastics site ...

    How cheap?  DSA Dolch (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-dolch-set-base-set-110-total-keys) starts from $70.
    yes, I saw this one and already bought it.
    I'm looking for anything cheaper - around 30 or 40 bucks.

    Not sure you'll find many at that price.

    You just missed the Granite (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/granite-set-pbt-dye-sub-dsa/) set, that was $35 or so.

    If you look around Classifieds you will probably find a few people selling their Granite sets - seems some sets were not up to expectations.

    $35 for the base but then you also had to get mods and a spacebar which put it ~$61 plus another ~$30 for the numberpad.....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:13:59
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:05:26
    Quote from: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 19:19:05
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:59:16
    Quote from: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:55:17
    Non blank cheap DSA keycaps? I've found only those blanks in the Signature Plastics site ...

    How cheap?  DSA Dolch (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-dolch-set-base-set-110-total-keys) starts from $70.
    yes, I saw this one and already bought it.
    I'm looking for anything cheaper - around 30 or 40 bucks.

    Not sure you'll find many at that price.

    You just missed the Granite (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/granite-set-pbt-dye-sub-dsa/) set, that was $35 or so.

    If you look around Classifieds you will probably find a few people selling their Granite sets - seems some sets were not up to expectations.

    35$ for alphas. You still need mods.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:19:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:05:26
    ... seems some sets were not up to expectations.
    Gosh, IMHO this is Matt3o's best work!

    Yes, I'm looking for this set - however it is way above 40 bucks ...
    ty anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:24:51
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 08 July 2014, 20:05:26
    seems some sets were not up to expectations.

    Ya. I saw those pics of the key spacing and the non centered legends. Those are SP execution issues though. The work Matt did is absolutely beautiful.

    My set turned out ok. Minor cases of both his problems. The back lighting on my keyboard makes it more obvious. I can live with the quality of these, but probably won't buy any more SP. (we will see how the SA profile is to know for sure). 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:51:53
    What is the pitch on a Filco(legs not extended) and a Poker II respectively, assuming stock keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:53:19
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:51:53
    What is the pitch on a Filco(legs not extended) and a Poker II respectively, assuming stock keycaps?

    I tried to measure it and I got about 5.5º - 6º
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:54:17
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:53:19
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:51:53
    What is the pitch on a Filco(legs not extended) and a Poker II respectively, assuming stock keycaps?

    I tried to measure it and I got about 5.5º - 6º

    On a Poker or a Filco?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:56:37
    What is the best place to find a new beige G80-3000 with blues?

    I have been looking on ebay and can only seem to find them in black.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 09 July 2014, 00:02:13
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:54:17
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:53:19
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:51:53
    What is the pitch on a Filco(legs not extended) and a Poker II respectively, assuming stock keycaps?

    I tried to measure it and I got about 5.5º - 6º

    On a Poker or a Filco?

    Sorry, that's on a filco.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 July 2014, 05:53:31
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:51:53
    What is the pitch on a Filco(legs not extended) and a Poker II respectively, assuming stock keycaps?

    For some reason, 7º and 11º stick out in my head respectively. But I'd trust swill's measurements more than my memory.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 09 July 2014, 07:19:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 July 2014, 05:53:31
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:51:53
    What is the pitch on a Filco(legs not extended) and a Poker II respectively, assuming stock keycaps?

    For some reason, 7º and 11º stick out in my head respectively. But I'd trust swill's measurements more than my memory.

    I did not measure it recently. That is from memory as well. I measured it when I was working on my case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 09 July 2014, 07:56:31
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:51:53
    What is the pitch on a Filco(legs not extended) and a Poker II respectively, assuming stock keycaps?

    poker is flat iirc

    filco is 6
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:02:28
    Are there any good options for quality keycaps that support back lighting?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:09:15
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 09 July 2014, 07:56:31
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:51:53
    What is the pitch on a Filco(legs not extended) and a Poker II respectively, assuming stock keycaps?

    poker is flat iirc

    filco is 6

    Poker case does sit flat on the desk, but it's a wedge shape so there is definitely an angle there.  Not sure exactly what it is, but it's got one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:09:41
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 09 July 2014, 07:56:31
    poker is flat iirc

    Definitely not: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_919_DSC_0759.jpg
    The Poker, II and the Pure have a very similar case, my Pure has an angle of about 5-6°.

    Quote from: swill on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:02:28
    Are there any good options for quality keycaps that support back lighting?

    Deck if you don't mind the font.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:10:19
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:09:15
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 09 July 2014, 07:56:31
    Quote from: combataran on Tue, 08 July 2014, 23:51:53
    What is the pitch on a Filco(legs not extended) and a Poker II respectively, assuming stock keycaps?

    poker is flat iirc

    filco is 6

    Poker case does sit flat on the desk, but it's a wedge shape so there is definitely an angle there.  Not sure exactly what it is, but it's got one.
    Yes, I was wondering about the pitch of the wedge.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:19:51
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:09:41
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:02:28
    Are there any good options for quality keycaps that support back lighting?

    Deck if you don't mind the font.

    Can you buy the caps on their own?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:45:23
    Would it be possible to mod the stabs on a Filco from Costar to Cherry?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:48:54
    Quote from: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:45:23
    Would it be possible to mod the stabs on a Filco from Costar to Cherry?
    Possible, but a tonne of modding would be required. Really not worth the effort.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:50:38
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:48:54
    Quote from: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:45:23
    Would it be possible to mod the stabs on a Filco from Costar to Cherry?
    Possible, but a tonne of modding would be required. Really not worth the effort.
    +1
    or buy a new plate which can support plate-mounted Cherry stabilizer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:51:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:48:54
    Quote from: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:45:23
    Would it be possible to mod the stabs on a Filco from Costar to Cherry?
    Possible, but a tonne of modding would be required. Really not worth the effort.

    So it's not as simple as desolder switch, replace stab, resolder switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:52:43
    Quote from: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:51:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:48:54
    Quote from: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:45:23
    Would it be possible to mod the stabs on a Filco from Costar to Cherry?
    Possible, but a tonne of modding would be required. Really not worth the effort.

    So it's not as simple as desolder switch, replace stab, resolder switch?

    No, the stab holes are a different size. And the Costar stab wire won't work with Cherry stabilizers. I can't remember if the Cherry wire works with Costar but I don't think so. Also plate mounted Cherry stabilizer housings aren't the same design as PCB mounted so there's that to take into consideration. Stabilizers aren't like switches in the respect you're referring to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:53:45
    Thanks guys, I see it now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 09 July 2014, 11:18:03
    Do you know any non blank DSA keycaps vendor? (Not signature Plastics, MechanicalKeyboard nor WASD please)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 July 2014, 11:20:52
    Quote from: agodinhost on Wed, 09 July 2014, 11:18:03
    Do you know any non blank DSA keycaps vendor? (Not signature Plastics, MechanicalKeyboard nor WASD please)

    DSA profile is specific to Signature Plastics
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 09 July 2014, 12:13:38
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 July 2014, 11:20:52
    Quote from: agodinhost on Wed, 09 July 2014, 11:18:03
    Do you know any non blank DSA keycaps vendor? (Not signature Plastics, MechanicalKeyboard nor WASD please)

    DSA profile is specific to Signature Plastics
    Really?
    it explains a lot ...
    damm
    ty
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:23:58
    Where are these teal keys from? (not the skull, the blanks--are they also from CC?)

    (http://i.imgur.com/Nph5ES7.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:49:30
    Does Cherry ever made a g80 in jis layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:49:36
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:23:58
    Where are these teal keys from? (not the skull, the blanks--are they also from CC?)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Nph5ES7.jpg)


    They're from CC. There is also a WASD and Arrow cluster.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:52:17
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:49:30
    Does Cherry ever made a g80 in jis layout?
    Yes. 11802 and 3600

    http://s21.postimg.org/rq89ff34l/IMG_00000924.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/15xkBr6h.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:53:23
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:49:36
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:23:58
    Where are these teal keys from? (not the skull, the blanks--are they also from CC?)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Nph5ES7.jpg)


    They're from CC. There is also a WASD and Arrow cluster.

    Thanks very much for the info. Do you happen to know if CC gave that color a name?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 09 July 2014, 14:54:03
    Mintgum ^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 15:06:48
    (http://i.imgur.com/Ikj7H7q.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 09 July 2014, 21:27:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:52:43
    Quote from: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:51:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:48:54
    Quote from: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:45:23
    Would it be possible to mod the stabs on a Filco from Costar to Cherry?
    Possible, but a tonne of modding would be required. Really not worth the effort.

    So it's not as simple as desolder switch, replace stab, resolder switch?

    No, the stab holes are a different size. And the Costar stab wire won't work with Cherry stabilizers. I can't remember if the Cherry wire works with Costar but I don't think so. Also plate mounted Cherry stabilizer housings aren't the same design as PCB mounted so there's that to take into consideration. Stabilizers aren't like switches in the respect you're referring to.

    Correct here.  Costar and cherry wires are not interchangeable.  They are completely different shapes and there is enough of a size difference in the diameter of the wire that it wouldn't work on that front either. 

    There is a style of stab hole that will work with both plate mounted Cherry, and Costar.  Though you will not find it on a stock plate.  Those will only support the type of stabilizer that they were designed for.  It would however be possible to mod a cherry plate mount hole to fit costar but would require a lot of VERY careful work with a file.  Both cherry plate mount and costar stabilizer holes can be modified to make PCB mount cherry stabs work but will require a different PCB unless you are building a frankenboard. 

    Also, there are no pcb mount costar.  All costar stabilizers are plate mount and Alps switches are their own stabilizers of which there a a number of slight variations all being plate mount as well to my knowledge.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: norbauer on Wed, 09 July 2014, 23:41:41
    Anybody have a list of the online tools used to mock-up keycap layouts (I have seen some that have the full standard Signature Plastics color ring colors, etc.) I used to have links but can't find them anymore. :S Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Wed, 09 July 2014, 23:57:05
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: norbauer on Wed, 09 July 2014, 23:58:50
    Quote from: divito on Wed, 09 July 2014, 23:57:05
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/

    Ah, that's the one! Thanks, divito! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Thu, 10 July 2014, 09:07:15
    Where can I buy thick PBT blank key caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Thu, 10 July 2014, 11:01:25
    are the rainbow sets dyed, or are they actual colored plastic, and if dye, how durable are they?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 10 July 2014, 11:13:39
    Quote from: calavera on Thu, 10 July 2014, 09:07:15
    Where can I buy thick PBT blank key caps?

    If I remember correctly Originative once offered them but I think a lot of people never eceived those. Apart from that there is a GB by Ivan that is closed but not over yet. Maybe somebody who got in is willing to sell their order.

    Quote from: Jixr on Thu, 10 July 2014, 11:01:25
    are the rainbow sets dyed, or are they actual colored plastic, and if dye, how durable are they?

    Not sure but both should not wear off (because dye goes into the plastic and I've only seen POM and I think PBT rainbow sets).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 11:16:57


    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 10 July 2014, 11:13:39
    Quote from: Jixr on Thu, 10 July 2014, 11:01:25
    are the rainbow sets dyed, or are they actual colored plastic, and if dye, how durable are they?

    Not sure but both should not wear off (because dye goes into the plastic and I've only seen POM and I think PBT rainbow sets).

    Right, there's pellets of POM or PBT which are those colors most likely. I don't think they're dye sublimated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:41:43
    Can you make a rubber dome work after you have taken it out of its case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:43:11
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:41:43
    Can you make a rubber dome work after you have taken it out of its case?

    I don't see why you couldn't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:47:24
    I was curious because I'm experimenting with it and as unscrewed it and took it out of the case it gradually stopped working. As in only a couple of keys worked and then none after I took it out. As I started to put it back in it started working again. Sound like somethings come loose?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:07:36
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:47:24
    I was curious because I'm experimenting with it and as unscrewed it and took it out of the case it gradually stopped working. As in only a couple of keys worked and then none after I took it out. As I started to put it back in it started working again. Sound like somethings come loose?

    IIRC, some rubber dome boards have multiple layers plastic sheets with traces.  It's possible that these need to be held tightly together to function properly, and opening it up would allow gaps that cause it to not work.  But it's been years since I took apart a rubber dome, so my memory might be failing me here.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:19:27
    I think you've got it Hoffman, gotta keep the traces in place.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:27:15
    I have decided I want an aluminum TKL board; preferably one that has a pcb that uses cherry stabs. What would be easiest way to do this? Does anyone have any experience with these?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=281

    Would it be possible to put a Filco or Ducky TKL into this case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:28:09
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:27:15
    I have decided I want an aluminum TKL board; preferably one that has a pcb that uses cherry stabs. What would be easiest way to do this? Does anyone have any experience with these?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=281

    Would it be possible to put a Filco or Ducky TKL into this case?
    Just buy a KMAC. You can get them really cheap nowadays (300-400$ assembled) and they use Cherry PCB mount stabilisers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:28:31
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:27:15
    I have decided I want an aluminum TKL board; preferably one that has a pcb that uses cherry stabs. What would be easiest way to do this? Does anyone have any experience with these?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=281

    Would it be possible to put a Filco or Ducky TKL into this case?

    Filco for sure.  It is designed for Filcos.  I don't know about Ducky with that case, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:35:51
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:28:09
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:27:15
    I have decided I want an aluminum TKL board; preferably one that has a pcb that uses cherry stabs. What would be easiest way to do this? Does anyone have any experience with these?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=281

    Would it be possible to put a Filco or Ducky TKL into this case?
    Just buy a KMAC. You can get them really cheap nowadays (300-400$ assembled) and they use Cherry PCB mount stabilisers.

    Ah yes, please point me in the direction of the KMAC store :) I would surely pay $300 for an assembled KMAC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
    There's a silver one here for $360

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
    There's a silver one here for $360

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

    I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:21:32
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
    I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

    I think jdcarpe has one so hopefully he can comment. I think metalliqaz has one too.

    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:35:51
    Ah yes, please point me in the direction of the KMAC store :) I would surely pay $300 for an assembled KMAC.

    There's not being made new anymore so Classifieds are going to be your best bet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:24:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:21:32
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
    I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

    I think jdcarpe has one so hopefully he can comment. I think metalliqaz has one too.

    The TypeNow Solid is the best thing you can get, next to a Korean custom. In fact, it *is* Korean, from Leopold. :)

    The aluminum housing is just what the name describes...SOLID. The orange plate is beautiful. And the browns feel like they were lubed at the factory. That's a great price for it, too. I paid $400 for mine, without keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:27:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:24:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:21:32
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
    I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

    I think jdcarpe has one so hopefully he can comment. I think metalliqaz has one too.

    The TypeNow Solid is the best thing you can get, next to a Korean custom. In fact, it *is* Korean, from Leopold. :)

    The aluminum housing is just what the name describes...SOLID. The orange plate is beautiful. And the browns feel like they were lubed at the factory. That's a great price for it, too. I paid $400 for mine, without keycaps.

    Thanks for the input. I see Elton has some Kingsavers? Anyone want to assemble one for me :)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:36:40
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:27:33
    Thanks for the input. I see Elton has some Kingsavers? Anyone want to assemble one for me :)

    Just remember that the Kingsavers are Alps switches only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:40:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:36:40
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:27:33
    Thanks for the input. I see Elton has some Kingsavers? Anyone want to assemble one for me :)

    Just remember that the Kingsavers are Alps switches only.

    Doh! Well that idea is out the window. I feel like I NEED 65g MX Blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:50:22
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:40:50
    I feel like I NEED 65g MX Blacks.

    You do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:51:23
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
    There's a silver one here for $360

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

    I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

    they're really gross actually

    just get a KMAC or something
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:51:47
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:40:50
    I NEED 65g MX Vintage Blacks.

    FTFY
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:52:06
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:51:23
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
    There's a silver one here for $360

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

    I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

    they're really gross actually

    just get a KMAC or something

    I've always thought they are good looking keyboards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:06:35
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:51:23
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
    There's a silver one here for $360

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

    I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

    they're really gross actually

    just get a KMAC or something

    Gross? You're gross.

    /me cries in the corner.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:10:12
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:52:06
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:51:23
    Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
    There's a silver one here for $360

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

    I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

    they're really gross actually

    just get a KMAC or something

    I've always thought they are good looking keyboards

    look good yes

    they're really flimsy and the case is really hard to open and it uses leopolds awful stem spacing

    which defeats the whole point of a custom
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:24:25
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:10:12
    look good yes

    they're really flimsy and the case is really hard to open and it uses leopolds awful stem spacing

    which defeats the whole point of a custom

    I thought they were meant to be used with their stock keycaps but hey

    I have yet to try one in person yet
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:00:12
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:10:12
    they're really flimsy and the case is really hard to open and it uses leopolds awful stem spacing

    Well, yeah. I did say it was a Leopold. ;D

    Also, not flimsy at all. I haven't opened the case yet, though.

    Plus, how else would I get to use this kick-ass Titanuim space bar, which only has stems at the Leo spacing?

    (http://i.imgur.com/LkFo6.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:02:36
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:00:12
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:10:12
    they're really flimsy and the case is really hard to open and it uses leopolds awful stem spacing

    Well, yeah. I did say it was a Leopold. ;D

    Plus, how else would I get to use this kick-ass Titanuim space bar, which only has stems at the Leo spacing?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/LkFo6.jpg)


    oofff badass
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:09:50
    And probably the best reason to own a TNS, is that its orange plate makes a trio of HO Clacks look awesome. :D

    (http://i.imgur.com/K7Ii75B.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:23:10
    Anyone know anything about this board?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DATA-GENERAL-KEYBOARD-KFB-4725-RED-LABEL-CLICKY-IBM-/291187498358?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43cc209d76 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DATA-GENERAL-KEYBOARD-KFB-4725-RED-LABEL-CLICKY-IBM-/291187498358?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43cc209d76)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:24:55
    Quote from: digi on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:23:10
    Anyone know anything about this board?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DATA-GENERAL-KEYBOARD-KFB-4725-RED-LABEL-CLICKY-IBM-/291187498358?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43cc209d76 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DATA-GENERAL-KEYBOARD-KFB-4725-RED-LABEL-CLICKY-IBM-/291187498358?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43cc209d76)

    Looks like an Alps board with a DataGeneral sticker slapped on top of the LED window.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:38:32
    That doesn't even remotely look like an alps switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:39:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:24:55
    Quote from: digi on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:23:10
    Anyone know anything about this board?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DATA-GENERAL-KEYBOARD-KFB-4725-RED-LABEL-CLICKY-IBM-/291187498358?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43cc209d76 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DATA-GENERAL-KEYBOARD-KFB-4725-RED-LABEL-CLICKY-IBM-/291187498358?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43cc209d76)

    Looks like an Alps board with a DataGeneral sticker slapped on top of the LED window.

    Quote from: calavera on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:38:32
    That doesn't even remotely look like an alps switch?

    So what does it look like to you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: calavera on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:46:36
    No clue but did you scroll down and see the switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:48:30
    300 pages :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:51:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:39:52
    So what does it look like to you?

    Fujitsu Peerless (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Fujitsu_Peerless).

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:48:30
    300 pages :D

    Yay!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 21:00:28
    Quote from: calavera on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:46:36
    No clue but did you scroll down and see the switch?

    I did not. I am a bad person and I will put myself in the naughty corner. Many apologies. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04
    Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
    why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
    its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:53:33
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04
    Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?

    People mix and match those sets, so I think they do.

    Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
    why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?

    Because it's easier to get your hands on them now. Ergo Clears and normal Clears were praised for their tactility before, too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:57:45
    Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
    why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?

    In addition to what bluebar said. I think mechanicalkeyboards.com becoming a Cherry retailer really helped the popularity spike. It was harder to find mx clears before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:30:40
    Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
    why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
    its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.

    Many people say clears are what they expected browns to be.

    I liked clears before they were popular :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:58:26
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:30:40

    Many people say clears are what they expected browns to be.


    I would like the stronger bump with the lighter spring, if I do the ergo mod I suppose that lubing is almost a necessity.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:39:18
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:58:26
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:30:40

    Many people say clears are what they expected browns to be.


    I would like the stronger bump with the lighter spring, if I do the ergo mod I suppose that lubing is almost a necessity.


    It seems to depend on how light you go. Lots of people have success with 62g and no lube.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:40:58
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:30:40
    Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
    why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
    its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.

    Many people say clears are what they expected browns to be.

    I liked clears before they were popular :thumb:

    That's what people say about mx greens/mx blues :))

    A lot of people start on modern browns , and like them, until they try something else and then they find that they hate modern browns afterwards :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:44:10
    Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
    why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
    its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.

    Because they have the master spring for linear switches.  That is until someone is able to supply our market with springs with an even steeper spring rate.  I want something that actuates around 50-ish and then bottoms out at somewhere in the 120 range.  I have a feeling that a spring with a very quick progressive spring rate would feel very nice on MX linears but I would imagine making progressive rate springs at this size would be pretty expensive compared to linear rate springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:47:35
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:44:10
    Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
    why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
    its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.

    Because they have the master spring for linear switches.

    Huh? The question was asking why MX clear switches are popular. I don't see what that has to do with linear switches. And I don't think the modded MX linears with Clear springs are that popular within the community to be honest.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Fri, 11 July 2014, 09:32:41
    Anyone have experience with plastidipping plates? I'm pretty sure it will adhere to the steel plate with no problem, but I'm slightly worried about when it comes to soldering the switches in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:25:34
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 11 July 2014, 09:32:41
    Anyone have experience with plastidipping plates? I'm pretty sure it will adhere to the steel plate with no problem, but I'm slightly worried about when it comes to soldering the switches in.

    I plastidipped the top case of my Shine II.  I haven't tried it on a plate.

    I think the plastidip would get scratches or peel if you accidentally hit it with a wire keycap puller while pulling keycaps off.  It may also peel when -- as you mentioned -- insert the switches.

    If you do decide to experiment and have trouble peeling the plastidip off, spray some WD40 on it and brush it.  WD40 dissolves plastidip. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:49:56
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:53:33
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04
    Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?

    People mix and match those sets, so I think they do.

    Thanks...anybody able to confirm 100%?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:55:23
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:49:56
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:53:33
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04
    Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?

    People mix and match those sets, so I think they do.

    Thanks...anybody able to confirm 100%?

    I can confirm that I have seen people in the "Post your Topre keyboard" thread with mixed sets. lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:46:02
    Which spring would be considered slightly lighter than a stock mx black spring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:04:27
    Quote from: Battou62 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:46:02
    Which spring would be considered slightly lighter than a stock mx black spring?

    68-75g should be good. Stock Blue/Brown/Red springs are around 60g, Black springs around 80g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:22:02
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:04:27
    Quote from: Battou62 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:46:02
    Which spring would be considered slightly lighter than a stock mx black spring?

    68-75g should be good. Stock Blue/Brown/Red springs are around 60g, Black springs around 80g.

    Are these korean or cherry weights?  korean right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:26:43
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:22:02
    Are these korean or cherry weights?  korean right?

    Korean. Nobody really works with Cherry's measurements.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:28:29
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:49:56
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:53:33
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04
    Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?

    People mix and match those sets, so I think they do.

    Thanks...anybody able to confirm 100%?

    they're literally the exact same keycaps just on different boards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:34:50
    Thanks.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:48:26
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:26:43
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:22:02
    Are these korean or cherry weights?  korean right?

    Korean. Nobody really works with Cherry's measurements.

    Perfect.  I just wanted to clarify for everyone's benefit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:11:27
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:48:26
    Perfect.  I just wanted to clarify for everyone's benefit.

    Gotcha. I think we need a whole FAQ devoted to springs :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:18:44
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:11:27
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:48:26
    Perfect.  I just wanted to clarify for everyone's benefit.

    Gotcha. I think we need a whole FAQ devoted to springs :))

    haha.  i am sure we already have one. somewhere...  :)  i try to just make sure that the info is clear when i can.  :) 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:20:25
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:18:44
    haha.  i am sure we already have one. somewhere...  :)  i try to just make sure that the info is clear when i can.  :)

    Well we have a short explanation in the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_OO) but the question still comes up way too often :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 08:20:29
    What's the name of the springs used in HHKB Pro 2 spacebars?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nukec on Sat, 12 July 2014, 09:15:36
    Hi I just got set of dcs blanks. Did i put wrong enter key? It is little bit higher?

    (http://i.imgur.com/UBNGv5I.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 09:52:36
    Quote from: nukec on Sat, 12 July 2014, 09:15:36
    Hi I just got set ob dcs blanks. Did i put wrong enter key? It is little bit higher?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/UBNGv5I.jpg)


    Switch your left shift with the enter key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 09:54:05
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 08:20:29
    What's the name of the springs used in HHKB Pro 2 spacebars?

    Not sure what you mean by name. Do you mean "conical springs"?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nukec on Sat, 12 July 2014, 10:25:06
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 09:52:36
    Quote from: nukec on Sat, 12 July 2014, 09:15:36
    Hi I just got set ob dcs blanks. Did i put wrong enter key? It is little bit higher?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/UBNGv5I.jpg)


    Switch your left shift with the enter key.

    Thanks it's perfect now!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 12 July 2014, 11:54:42
    Will 3 G81 sets fit in a small USPS priority box?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Sat, 12 July 2014, 12:19:55
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 12 July 2014, 11:54:42
    Will 3 G81 sets fit in a small USPS priority box?

    I would say no to that. It would be an extremely tight fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Battou62 on Sat, 12 July 2014, 12:24:04
    Would it be relatively easy to swap springs on a KMAC? I am trying to expand my chances of finding one :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 12 July 2014, 12:30:33
    where do i get filco cases? just barebone cases, with the filco logo on it and all. i saw a post where it directed me to a diatec website but i couldn't find replacement cases there. any help?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 12 July 2014, 13:05:36
    Quote from: Battou62 on Sat, 12 July 2014, 12:24:04
    Would it be relatively easy to swap springs on a KMAC? I am trying to expand my chances of finding one :)

    I just take a look at a picture of the plate. The holes for switches don't have the extra space for removing switch caps without desoldering, so no it won't be easier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 12 July 2014, 13:09:08
    [attachimg=1]
    All the IBM jr's were RD, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 13:13:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 09:54:05
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 08:20:29
    What's the name of the springs used in HHKB Pro 2 spacebars?

    Not sure what you mean by name. Do you mean "conical springs"?

    I need one of these:

    More
    (http://i59.tinypic.com/34nibec.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 12 July 2014, 13:43:37
    Why am I not at keycon? is my question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:42:02
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 13:13:40
    I need one of these:

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i59.tinypic.com/34nibec.jpg)

    I don't think they have a special name. They usually just get called Topre Spacebar springs afaik.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:49:30
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:42:02
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 13:13:40
    I need one of these:

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i59.tinypic.com/34nibec.jpg)

    I don't think they have a special name. They usually just get called Topre Spacebar springs afaik.

    Well I need to find one. :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:53:43
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 12 July 2014, 13:09:08
    (Attachment Link)
    All the IBM jr's were RD, right?

    Yep.

    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:49:30
    Well I need to find one. :/

    If you have the measurements you could try looking for one in online stores. I don't think you can buy replacements for them easily.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:54:37
    wasn't the consensus that they feel better without it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:56:06
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:54:37
    wasn't the consensus that they feel better without it?

    Yeah maybe somebody who doesn't use theirs can give one to you, epzy? Can't hurt asking in the free stuff thread for example.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 12 July 2014, 18:57:37

    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 12 July 2014, 12:30:33
    where do i get filco cases? just barebone cases, with the filco logo on it and all. i saw a post where it directed me to a diatec website but i couldn't find replacement cases there. any help?

    mini bumb (idk lol)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 19:10:24
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 12 July 2014, 12:30:33
    where do i get filco cases? just barebone cases, with the filco logo on it and all. i saw a post where it directed me to a diatec website but i couldn't find replacement cases there. any help?

    you can't

    those are full keyboards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 19:12:53
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:56:06
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:54:37
    wasn't the consensus that they feel better without it?

    Yeah maybe somebody who doesn't use theirs can give one to you, epzy? Can't hurt asking in the free stuff thread for example.

    Yeah, ComradeSniper is hooking me up. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 12 July 2014, 20:10:37
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:49:30
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:42:02
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 12 July 2014, 13:13:40
    I need one of these:

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i59.tinypic.com/34nibec.jpg)

    I don't think they have a special name. They usually just get called Topre Spacebar springs afaik.

    Well I need to find one. :/

    Ask in the free stuff thread. I know some people don't like using that spring, so. Someone may have one they would give you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 00:05:42
    [attach=1]
    Is this just some kind of slider over dome?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sun, 13 July 2014, 02:56:47
    it said replacement case in a section. but i just want a white tkl case T.T
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 13 July 2014, 05:27:56
    Quote from: frosty on Sun, 13 July 2014, 02:56:47
    it said replacement case in a section. but i just want a white tkl case T.T

    I don't see where you can buy the case alone on their site. I only found a "case replacement service".

    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 00:05:42
    (Attachment Link)
    Is this just some kind of slider over dome?

    Key Tronic or Alphameric foam and foil.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Sun, 13 July 2014, 07:04:24
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:25:34
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 11 July 2014, 09:32:41
    Anyone have experience with plastidipping plates? I'm pretty sure it will adhere to the steel plate with no problem, but I'm slightly worried about when it comes to soldering the switches in.

    I plastidipped the top case of my Shine II.  I haven't tried it on a plate.

    I think the plastidip would get scratches or peel if you accidentally hit it with a wire keycap puller while pulling keycaps off.  It may also peel when -- as you mentioned -- insert the switches.

    If you do decide to experiment and have trouble peeling the plastidip off, spray some WD40 on it and brush it.  WD40 dissolves plastidip. ;)

    Thanks for the input and apologies for the late response. It's glow in the dark plasti-dip and I believe it to be 'invisible' or close to it when it's not 'glowing' so maybe a bit coming off wouldn't matter so much kinda thing. Maybe it will be interesting to try anyway!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 13 July 2014, 08:17:28
    Quote from: b7ad on Sun, 13 July 2014, 07:04:24
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:25:34
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 11 July 2014, 09:32:41
    Anyone have experience with plastidipping plates? I'm pretty sure it will adhere to the steel plate with no problem, but I'm slightly worried about when it comes to soldering the switches in.

    I plastidipped the top case of my Shine II.  I haven't tried it on a plate.

    I think the plastidip would get scratches or peel if you accidentally hit it with a wire keycap puller while pulling keycaps off.  It may also peel when -- as you mentioned -- insert the switches.

    If you do decide to experiment and have trouble peeling the plastidip off, spray some WD40 on it and brush it.  WD40 dissolves plastidip. ;)

    Thanks for the input and apologies for the late response. It's glow in the dark plasti-dip and I believe it to be 'invisible' or close to it when it's not 'glowing' so maybe a bit coming off wouldn't matter so much kinda thing. Maybe it will be interesting to try anyway!

    Whoa.  TIL that there's glow in the dark plastidip.  Excited to see how it turns out! :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 13 July 2014, 09:57:31
    What other keycap sets are out there that have coloring schemes like the OTD RA and CCNG?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sun, 13 July 2014, 10:05:39
    Originative or PimpMyKeyboard Dolch set, what is better, what's difference?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 13 July 2014, 10:20:15
    Quote from: Vitaly on Sun, 13 July 2014, 10:05:39
    Originative or PimpMyKeyboard Dolch set, what is better, what's difference?

    Originative is Cherry Profile, which means it's thick, doubleshot ABS. Made by a company called GMK, who owns all the OG cherry tooling. You'll probably just lose all your money if you order from Originative, though.

    PMK dolch is made by SP, and it's DSA profile, which IMO is the worst profile. It's thin ABS as well, which feels pretty lame. You'll actually get a keyset if you order from PMK, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sun, 13 July 2014, 10:54:30
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 13 July 2014, 10:20:15
    Quote from: Vitaly on Sun, 13 July 2014, 10:05:39
    Originative or PimpMyKeyboard Dolch set, what is better, what's difference?

    Originative is Cherry Profile, which means it's thick, doubleshot ABS. Made by a company called GMK, who owns all the OG cherry tooling. You'll probably just lose all your money if you order from Originative, though.

    PMK dolch is made by SP, and it's DSA profile, which IMO is the worst profile. It's thin ABS as well, which feels pretty lame. You'll actually get a keyset if you order from PMK, though.
    Thanks.  I have two GMK keycaps, and they really good and thick, that's why i looked to Originative.  Is it possible to order directly from gmk (not from Originative)? I wrote them, but they answered MOQ 250.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 13 July 2014, 11:04:26
    you missed the GMK DOlch groupbuy here by about 2 weeks :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sun, 13 July 2014, 11:09:24
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 13 July 2014, 11:04:26
    you missed the GMK DOlch groupbuy here by about 2 weeks :(
    bad :( Wrote message to IvanIvanovich, maybe still have a chance
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 13 July 2014, 11:18:36
    the payment deadline is in 2 days and there's always the chance of someone not paying on time, maybe you could take his spot if you ask in the thread

    edit: i'm pretty sure writing a pm to Ivan won't help, the above is the only way you can get your hands on a set now. aside from waiting for one to appear on the classified board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 13 July 2014, 11:29:32
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 13 July 2014, 09:57:31
    What other keycap sets are out there that have coloring schemes like the OTD RA and CCNG?

    Both sets had multiple rounds, some were run by GH. They all have small differences (the font or the modifiers for example).
    I know Ducky has made dyesubs in the CCnG colourscheme and Vortex has made PBT doubleshots in the RA and CCnG colourschemes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sun, 13 July 2014, 13:18:11
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 13 July 2014, 11:18:36
    the payment deadline is in 2 days and there's always the chance of someone not paying on time, maybe you could take his spot if you ask in the thread

    edit: i'm pretty sure writing a pm to Ivan won't help, the above is the only way you can get your hands on a set now. aside from waiting for one to appear on the classified board
    Get one, thanks to Ivan  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 13 July 2014, 16:48:31
    looks like i was wrong. grats!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sun, 13 July 2014, 17:20:34
    how do i wetsand? wet the plastic and just sand it?

    where do i get leds that actually fit in the keyswitch and has a spherical top?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 13 July 2014, 17:28:34
    Quote from: frosty on Sun, 13 July 2014, 17:20:34
    1. how do i wetsand? wet the plastic and just sand it?
    2. where do i get leds that actually fit in the keyswitch and has a spherical top?

    1. I found this: "As mentioned wet sanding is sanding the surface while using a lubricant (usually, as the name implies, water) to reduce surface scuffing." I think you should look it up via Google or make a seperate thread about it, I don't know if this is a simple question.
    2. Ebay, you should look for 3mm LEDs. However it is generally recommended to use 2x3x4mm rectangular LEDs because the 3mm round ones can cause problems with thick keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sun, 13 July 2014, 17:49:40

    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 13 July 2014, 17:28:34
    Quote from: frosty on Sun, 13 July 2014, 17:20:34
    1. how do i wetsand? wet the plastic and just sand it?
    2. where do i get leds that actually fit in the keyswitch and has a spherical top?

    1. I found this: "As mentioned wet sanding is sanding the surface while using a lubricant (usually, as the name implies, water) to reduce surface scuffing." I think you should look it up via Google or make a seperate thread about it, I don't know if this is a simple question.
    2. Ebay, you should look for 3mm LEDs. However it is generally recommended to use 2x3x4mm rectangular LEDs because the 3mm round ones can cause problems with thick keycaps.

    will do! thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 20:58:48
    Does anyone know of a good tutorial for a soarer's converter on an rj45 connector?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 13 July 2014, 21:26:24
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 20:58:48
    Does anyone know of a good tutorial for a soarer's converter on an rj45 connector?

    I connected the correct wires, and it worked right away with no additional adjustments.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 23:51:19
    and what is that watermark-ish thing people have in their pictures with their username?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 13 July 2014, 23:56:57
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 23:51:19
    and what is that watermark-ish thing people have in their pictures with their username?

    Simply that - a watermark.

    To identify the picture as belonging to that person.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 23:57:43
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 13 July 2014, 23:56:57
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 23:51:19
    and what is that watermark-ish thing people have in their pictures with their username?

    Simply that - a watermark.

    To identify the picture as belonging to that person.
    well alrighty then
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EpicSNES on Mon, 14 July 2014, 03:53:25
    I'm getting my Poker 2 this week, I'm sure the manual covers this but is there any thread or something covering the programming options?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 04:12:35
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Mon, 14 July 2014, 03:53:25
    I'm getting my Poker 2 this week, I'm sure the manual covers this but is there any thread or something covering the programming options?

    Maybe the Deskthority wiki entry is helpful to you: http://deskthority.net/wiki/KBC_Poker_II#Programming
    Other than that just read the manual.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 14 July 2014, 04:44:52
    If I were to send a lasercutter these DXF files (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=D009FB5A2348B68!14099&authkey=!AMpDKF8L_Zr1rNo&ithint=folder%2c.dxf), containing these drawings:
    (http://i.imgur.com/DlDONWy.png)
    (http://i.imgur.com/1oh0nCo.png)

    Would they be able to get the Orion TKL bottom plate and this from it?
    (http://i.imgur.com/8VkEcSt.jpg)

    I have never worked with DXF files before  so I am unsure if the measurements are included or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 05:05:16
    Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 14 July 2014, 04:44:52
    If I were to send a lasercutter these DXF files (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=D009FB5A2348B68!14099&authkey=!AMpDKF8L_Zr1rNo&ithint=folder%2c.dxf), containing these drawings:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/DlDONWy.png)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/1oh0nCo.png)


    Would they be able to get the Orion TKL bottom plate and this from it?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/8VkEcSt.jpg)


    I have never worked with DXF files before  so I am unsure if the measurements are included or not.

    Are those the original drawings? If they are then you shouldn't have any problems. I'm pretty sure the measurements are included.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 14 July 2014, 05:19:25
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 05:05:16
    Quote from: JaccoW on Mon, 14 July 2014, 04:44:52
    If I were to send a lasercutter these DXF files (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=D009FB5A2348B68!14099&authkey=!AMpDKF8L_Zr1rNo&ithint=folder%2c.dxf), containing these drawings:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/DlDONWy.png)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/1oh0nCo.png)


    Would they be able to get the Orion TKL bottom plate and this from it?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/8VkEcSt.jpg)


    I have never worked with DXF files before  so I am unsure if the measurements are included or not.

    Are those the original drawings? If they are then you shouldn't have any problems. I'm pretty sure the measurements are included.
    They are. I'll ask the lasercutter if they contain everything they need.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EpicSNES on Mon, 14 July 2014, 07:22:20
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 04:12:35
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Mon, 14 July 2014, 03:53:25
    I'm getting my Poker 2 this week, I'm sure the manual covers this but is there any thread or something covering the programming options?

    Maybe the Deskthority wiki entry is helpful to you: http://deskthority.net/wiki/KBC_Poker_II#Programming
    Other than that just read the manual.

    Thanks. That's exactly what I was looking for  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Mon, 14 July 2014, 08:14:51
    can cherry pcb mounts and a ansi 125 plate fit this pcb?

    (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/uzugusup.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 08:24:27
    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 14 July 2014, 08:14:51
    can cherry pcb mounts and a ansi 125 plate fit this pcb?

    Show Image
    (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/uzugusup.jpg)


    You will have to cut off the extra support legs PCB mount switches have:

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46376.0;attach=29853;image)

    As for the plate it should fit but you should ask the seller or GB organizer (idk where you will get it from) if it does just to be sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Mon, 14 July 2014, 08:59:00

    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 08:24:27
    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 14 July 2014, 08:14:51
    can cherry pcb mounts and a ansi 125 plate fit this pcb?

    Show Image
    (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/uzugusup.jpg)


    You will have to cut off the extra support legs PCB mount switches have:

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46376.0;attach=29853;image)


    As for the plate it should fit but you should ask the seller or GB organizer (idk where you will get it from) if it does just to be sure.

    there's an ic of phantom plate r2 going on, probably hoping onto it. my bad, i meant will Cherry STABS pcb mount fit on this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 14 July 2014, 09:00:28
    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 14 July 2014, 08:59:00

    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 08:24:27
    Show Image
    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 14 July 2014, 08:14:51
    can cherry pcb mounts and a ansi 125 plate fit this pcb?

    (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/thumbnail/uzugusup.jpg) (http://tapatalk.com/tapatalk_image.php?img=aHR0cDovL2ltZy50YXBhdGFsay5jb20vZC8xNC8wNy8xNC9vcmlnaW5hbC91enVndXN1cC5qcGc%3D)

    You will have to cut off the extra support legs PCB mount switches have:

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46376.0;attach=29853;image)


    As for the plate it should fit but you should ask the seller or GB organizer (idk where you will get it from) if it does just to be sure.

    there's an ic of phantom plate r2 going on, probably hoping onto it. my bad, i meant will Cherry STABS pcb mount fit on this?

    No the phantom does not support PCB mount stabilizers, only plate mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HipsterPunks on Mon, 14 July 2014, 12:38:48
    Since leopold makes both the fc660c and mx keypads, does anyone think there is a chance they will make a topre keypad? One can dream...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 July 2014, 14:37:18
    Quote from: HipsterPunks on Mon, 14 July 2014, 12:38:48
    Since leopold makes both the fc660c and mx keypads, does anyone think there is a chance they will make a topre keypad? One can dream...
    I haven't heard anything like that but you never know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Mon, 14 July 2014, 16:15:42
    i love this thread since there are billion of similar questions posted every day on main section  ;D
    I have question for TKL/60 users, what format do you prefer?
    I would switch 60 to TKL but want to ear each opinion
    PROS and CONS for each format

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 16:20:46
    Quote from: ajx on Mon, 14 July 2014, 16:15:42
    i love this thread since there are billion of similar questions posted every day on main section  ;D
    I have question for TKL/60 users, what format do you prefer?
    I would switch 60 to TKL but want to ear each opinion
    PROS and CONS for each format

    TKL is better if you use the arrow keys and navigation keys often. 60% is better for portability and more desk space. If you don't like FN layers go TKL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:23:12
    don't forget you're also sacrificing the function row if you go 60%. personally i find 75% keyboards the best of both worlds, but if i had to choose between the two i'd opt for TKL because i assign many program shortcuts to the arrow and navigation keys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:28:11
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:23:12
    don't forget you're also sacrificing the function row if you go 60%. personally i find 75% keyboards the best of both worlds, but if i had to choose between the two i'd opt for TKL because i assign many program shortcuts to the arrow and navigation keys

    75% have the issue that it's usually hard to find replacement keycaps for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:50:02
    No issue for me, i always use stock keycaps lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:54:19
    Quote from: ajx on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:50:02
    No issue for me, i always use stock keycaps lol

    You're missing out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:56:11
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:54:19
    Quote from: ajx on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:50:02
    No issue for me, i always use stock keycaps lol

    You're missing out.

    remember the best 'stock keycaps' are from cherry boards ;) :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 14 July 2014, 20:56:25
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:23:12
    don't forget you're also sacrificing the function row if you go 60%. personally i find 75% keyboards the best of both worlds, but if i had to choose between the two i'd opt for TKL because i assign many program shortcuts to the arrow and navigation keys

    I tried the pure (short right shift) layout and I cant handle not having dedicated arrow keys (im a full-time developer). I am building a 75% now and I expect that to be perfect for me.

    I use a FC660C at work and it is an awesome board. That 60% layout I can get behind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 14 July 2014, 20:58:18
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:28:11
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:23:12
    don't forget you're also sacrificing the function row if you go 60%. personally i find 75% keyboards the best of both worlds, but if i had to choose between the two i'd opt for TKL because i assign many program shortcuts to the arrow and navigation keys

    75% have the issue that it's usually hard to find replacement keycaps for them.

    Luckily most of the recent SA profile sets can be made to work well with the 75% layout. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Mon, 14 July 2014, 21:41:30
    TKL user here. For most of my typing, I can live with a 60% keyboard. Problem starts when I wanna do intensive work in Excel, because I'd miss F2 and the nav cluster (Ins-PgDn as well as the arrow keys). When I game, I've assigned quite a lot of buttons to function keys also, so there's that as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 14 July 2014, 23:15:10
    [attach=1]
    Any idea what this is?(from a chicony)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 15 July 2014, 00:36:19
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 14 July 2014, 23:15:10
    (Attachment Link)
    Any idea what this is?(from a chicony)

    Mitsumi switch (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Mitsumi_miniature_mechanical)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 00:37:21
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 15 July 2014, 00:36:19
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 14 July 2014, 23:15:10
    (Attachment Link)
    Any idea what this is?(from a chicony)

    Mitsumi switch (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Mitsumi_miniature_mechanical)
    aha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tanker1 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 06:15:54
    What's a good keyboard to start  into mechanical keybpard?
    My requirements are:
    - German layout
    - Black / Red Switches
    - TKL
    - Standard keycaps that can be changed
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 15 July 2014, 06:40:33
    Quote from: Tanker1 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 06:15:54
    What's a good keyboard to start  into mechanical keybpard?
    My requirements are:
    - German layout
    - Black / Red Switches
    - TKL
    - Standard keycaps that can be changed
    Thanks

    A good keyboard to start with that isn't too expensive is the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid. You can get it with blacks on Caseking.de or Amazon.de.
    Quality wise the QFR is decent but if you want to mod it later on or if you want a backlit keyboard you should go for a Ducky which you can get on Caseking.de or Getdigital.de.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 15 July 2014, 07:44:50
    Which is currently the best (quality, detail) Iron Man keycap?  Classifieds?  Keypop?  Ebay?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 July 2014, 07:47:18
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Tue, 15 July 2014, 07:44:50
    Which is currently the best (quality, detail) Iron Man keycap?  Classifieds?  Keypop?  Ebay?

    Are you asking where to get the "best" Iron Man keycap or which one I prefer? I'm partial to the GirlDC Iron Man keycap. Keypop's isn't bad though. I think the ones from Keypop are made by cinn.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 15 July 2014, 07:49:19
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Tue, 15 July 2014, 07:44:50
    Which is currently the best (quality, detail) Iron Man keycap?  Classifieds?  Keypop?  Ebay?

    It's aways hard to compare novelty/artisan keycaps like this. They're all slightly different, so I would just pick the one that I would think looks best. Apart from that, GirlDC made some and I think you can't go wrong with that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 15 July 2014, 08:11:35
    thanks, that's what i wanted to know
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 15 July 2014, 11:43:20
    I'm having a bit of problems with my pure.

    I'm using MX red and a pure with DSA right now and recently, I think as of last week or 2 weeks ago, I realise that sometimes when I type, certain letters appear twice even though I've only pressed them once. Also, I'm fairly confident this isn't an issue with me cause this only popped up 1-2 weeks ago even though I'm pretty sure nothing has changed with my typing.

    Can anyone have any advice on what's happening? I'll give you a sample of what it looks like:

    The qquick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
    The quick browwn fox juumps over the lazy dog
    The quick brown fox jumps over thhe lazy dog

    As far as I know it's sorta random, like it doesn't happen to specific keys only and neither is there a pattern where I can guess which key will have it next.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 11:44:22
    What's the general consensus on the feel of black alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 15 July 2014, 13:13:28
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 11:44:22
    What's the general consensus on the feel of black alps?

    The general consensus is that they are bad, but they can be very nice, very close to salmon/pink/orange in feel.

    For whatever reasons, an unusually large number of them have aged badly, and since there are millions of 1990s vintage old Dell AT101(W)s in circulation, many people have experienced them in an unfortunate setting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 July 2014, 13:17:03
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 11:44:22
    What's the general consensus on the feel of black alps?

    If you can find a good set of Black Alps, they feel very very tactile. Almost crunchy. Fairly heavy as well. I have two AT101Ws which have switches in good condition and I like how they feel.

    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Tue, 15 July 2014, 11:43:20
    I'm having a bit of problems with my pure.

    Can anyone have any advice on what's happening? I'll give you a sample of what it looks like:

    The qquick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
    The quick browwn fox juumps over the lazy dog
    The quick brown fox jumps over thhe lazy dog

    As far as I know it's sorta random, like it doesn't happen to specific keys only and neither is there a pattern where I can guess which key will have it next.


    It's chattering. Try adding a piece of drawer liner or foam between your PCB and case. Mine did the same thing and it was solved after I did this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 21:55:53
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALPS-CL-18802-BELGIAN-KEYBOARD-AEI-001-5080-/350441091456?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5197eab180
    Any idea what's in there?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: awong on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:18:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 February 2013, 20:33:59

    • Where is a template for making my own keycap/keyboard layouts? (This gets asked in the IRC probably weekly)
    Matt30 made this Color Generator application (http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#GFW,WA,GFW,WA) that allows you to pick color combos. For a blank layout of a keyboard, to color in, you can check out Kaporkle's thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39239.0). Next, ne0phyte has a layout generator here (http://bit.ly/ZC3mK0) and here (http://ne0.cc/kbeditor/). Finally, ijprest has this wonderful Keyboard Layout Generator (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/) with the proper SP and GMK color chip callouts. The SP ABS Color Codes can be found in Krogenar's thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.0).
     

    • What caps are better? PBT? ABS? Thick? Thin? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:50:24
    Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?

    That's like asking which is better, Ferrari or Lamborghini? :P
     
    They're both awesome.
    It’s all personal preference. Answer also works for “What is the best switch”?

    What does GMK stand for?

    Mod Edit: Please don't quote the entire OP.   :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:21:36
    Quote from: awong on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:18:52
    What does GMK stand for?
    Not sure what exactly it stands for, but this is the company: http://www.gmk-electronic-design.de/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:22:13
    Did you need to quote the entire OP? :))

    Answer to your question can be found here : http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:45:34
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:21:36
    Quote from: awong on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:18:52
    What does GMK stand for?
    Not sure what exactly it stands for, but this is the company: http://www.gmk-electronic-design.de/

    The founders are Manfred Güntner and Wolfgang Kredler, might have something to do with their initials?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:45:46
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 21:55:53
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALPS-CL-18802-BELGIAN-KEYBOARD-AEI-001-5080-/350441091456?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5197eab180
    Any idea what's in there?

    I believe it's Alps compatible caps over rubber dome or Alps rubber dome, but don't quote me on that.  When in doubt, hope and pray they're willing to pop a cap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 16 July 2014, 00:17:42
    I would buy a TKL with white Leds but which one seems to be fit to my needs (simple design, solid build, great finishing touch...)

    Code keyboard, MX-Clear

    Ducky Shine 3, MX-Red

    anything else than those keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 16 July 2014, 00:26:23
    If you can desolder/solder stuff, I would just get the board with the switches you want and swap out the LED's.  If you find one with the LEDs but different switches you will spend much more getting the switches you want than the LED's on top of doing double the soldering, as the LED's have to be removed before you can remove the switch to swap out internals.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 16 July 2014, 01:37:08
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 16 July 2014, 00:17:42
    I would buy a TKL with white Leds but which one seems to be fit to my needs (simple design, solid build, great finishing touch...)

    Code keyboard, MX-Clear

    Ducky Shine 3, MX-Red

    anything else than those keyboards?
    Déck Francium (http://www.deckkeyboards.com/product/francium-87-key)?
    Probably the highest quality caps (doubleshot pbt) but you have to get used to the font. It actually gives it it's unique charm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 16 July 2014, 02:27:41
    Quote from: awong on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:18:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 February 2013, 20:33:59

    • Where is a template for making my own keycap/keyboard layouts? (This gets asked in the IRC probably weekly)
    Matt30 made this Color Generator application (http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#GFW,WA,GFW,WA) that allows you to pick color combos. For a blank layout of a keyboard, to color in, you can check out Kaporkle's thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39239.0). Next, ne0phyte has a layout generator here (http://bit.ly/ZC3mK0) and here (http://ne0.cc/kbeditor/). Finally, ijprest has this wonderful Keyboard Layout Generator (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/) with the proper SP and GMK color chip callouts. The SP ABS Color Codes can be found in Krogenar's thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.0).
     

    • What caps are better? PBT? ABS? Thick? Thin? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:50:24
    Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?

    That's like asking which is better, Ferrari or Lamborghini? :P
     
    They're both awesome.
    It’s all personal preference. Answer also works for “What is the best switch”?

    What does GMK stand for?

    Mod Edit: Please don't quote the entire OP.   :))
    But dudes his name is awong... and he just quoted A. Wong...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 16 July 2014, 14:17:25
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 16 July 2014, 02:27:41
    Quote from: awong on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:18:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 February 2013, 20:33:59

    • Where is a template for making my own keycap/keyboard layouts? (This gets asked in the IRC probably weekly)
    Matt30 made this Color Generator application (http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#GFW,WA,GFW,WA) that allows you to pick color combos. For a blank layout of a keyboard, to color in, you can check out Kaporkle's thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39239.0). Next, ne0phyte has a layout generator here (http://bit.ly/ZC3mK0) and here (http://ne0.cc/kbeditor/). Finally, ijprest has this wonderful Keyboard Layout Generator (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/) with the proper SP and GMK color chip callouts. The SP ABS Color Codes can be found in Krogenar's thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45743.0).
     

    • What caps are better? PBT? ABS? Thick? Thin? Up to FAQ (#post_FAQ)
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:50:24
    Quote from: blututh on Wed, 24 April 2013, 15:47:22
    which is better? thick pbt or abs gmk?

    That's like asking which is better, Ferrari or Lamborghini? :P
     
    They're both awesome.
    It’s all personal preference. Answer also works for “What is the best switch”?

    What does GMK stand for?

    Mod Edit: Please don't quote the entire OP.   :))
    But dudes his name is awong... and he just quoted A. Wong...

    But luckily he didn't quote West Coast A. Wong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Wed, 16 July 2014, 16:25:02
    Why people buy several spacebars with sets? They eat them or custom keycaps fragile? (I had cheap keyboards at home and work and they  not broken  down on small parts after several years)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 16 July 2014, 16:26:12
    Quote from: Vitaly on Wed, 16 July 2014, 16:25:02
    Why people buy several spacebars with sets? They eat them or custom keycaps fragile? (I had cheap keyboards at home and work and they  not broken  down on small parts after several years)

    Ooh, ooh, I know this one.

    Because the spacebar gets shiny first. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 16 July 2014, 16:31:29
    Quote from: Vitaly on Wed, 16 July 2014, 16:25:02
    Why people buy several spacebars with sets? They eat them or custom keycaps fragile? (I had cheap keyboards at home and work and they  not broken  down on small parts after several years)

    do you mean like several sizes?

    and yeah the spacebar gets shiny first
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 16 July 2014, 19:28:54
    What LED do I need for use in a yellow/green alps switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 July 2014, 19:39:29
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 16 July 2014, 19:28:54
    What LED do I need for use in a yellow/green alps switch?

    Hm, it needs to be square for sure but I'm not 100% sure on the measurement. Like a 2x3x4 or whatever.

    I did measure the opening though. It's .290 inches or .7366 cm wide. The depth from the top of the switch casing to the bottom of the LED slot is .255 inches or .6477 cm.

    Edit: Upon further testing, it does seem like a 2x3x4 LED switch does fit into the slot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 16 July 2014, 19:42:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 July 2014, 19:39:29
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 16 July 2014, 19:28:54
    What LED do I need for use in a yellow/green alps switch?

    Hm, it needs to be square for sure but I'm not 100% sure on the measurement. Like a 2x3x4 or whatever.

    I did measure the opening though. It's .290 inches or .7366 cm wide. The depth from the top of the switch casing to the bottom of the LED slot is .255 inches or .6477 cm.

    Edit: Upon further testing, it does seem like a 2x3x4 LED switch does fit into the slot.

    Great, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 00:43:11
    Which teensy 2.0 (or 2.0++) compatible custom keyboard firmware is LED-compatible? Looking for (at least) pulse mode and variable brightness.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 17 July 2014, 00:52:13
    Artisan cap makers: would it be possible to make a liquid-filled cap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 17 July 2014, 00:57:04
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 17 July 2014, 00:52:13
    Artisan cap makers: would it be possible to make a liquid-filled cap?

    No.  Resins either react catastrophically to water (see this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51973.msg1148352#msg1148352)) or won't react properly if water is present.  It would be too dangerous to try with any hot casting methods for metal and can cause problems with plastic.  The only feasible way I see of doing it would be filling a bath oil bead capsule with a liquid.

    That said, why would you want liquid in a cap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 17 July 2014, 01:52:02
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 17 July 2014, 00:57:04
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 17 July 2014, 00:52:13
    Artisan cap makers: would it be possible to make a liquid-filled cap?

    No.  Resins either react catastrophically to water (see this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51973.msg1148352#msg1148352)) or won't react properly if water is present.  It would be too dangerous to try with any hot casting methods for metal and can cause problems with plastic.  The only feasible way I see of doing it would be filling a bath oil bead capsule with a liquid.

    That said, why would you want liquid in a cap?

    Like a special GID liquid or mercury or just to watch it slosh around when I press it and make pretty light ripples through LEDs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 17 July 2014, 01:59:19
    if keyboard were a subject, what knowledge would you need to possess in order to become 'proficient' at it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 17 July 2014, 02:13:53
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Thu, 17 July 2014, 01:59:19
    if keyboard were a subject, what knowledge would you need to possess in order to become 'proficient' at it?

    Touch typing
    How to properly plug in PS/2 keyboard
    Basic shortcuts
    Basic electronics relating to matrix construction and operation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 17 July 2014, 02:40:47
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Thu, 17 July 2014, 01:59:19
    if keyboard were a subject, what knowledge would you need to possess in order to become 'proficient' at it?

    Engineering
    Machining
    Prototyping (heh, typing)
    Artistic fortitude
    Business acumen
    Inherit geekiness
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 17 July 2014, 05:11:49
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 00:43:11
    Which teensy 2.0 (or 2.0++) compatible custom keyboard firmware is LED-compatible? Looking for (at least) pulse mode and variable brightness.

    I don't think there is one with a pulse mode, but TMK firmware has adjustable brightness. I'm sure something like pulse mode is not too hard to program yourself.

    Quote from: whentheclouds on Thu, 17 July 2014, 01:59:19
    if keyboard were a subject, what knowledge would you need to possess in order to become 'proficient' at it?

    Switch anatomy
    Electronics and soldering 101
    Keyboard and switch history
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 July 2014, 06:44:30
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Thu, 17 July 2014, 01:59:19
    if keyboard were a subject, what knowledge would you need to possess in order to become 'proficient' at it?

    I think the basics are:

    Touch Typing
    Knowledge of other typing layouts (QWERTY, Dvorak, Colemak, etc)
    Basic knowledge of simple hand tools (screwdrivers, multimeter)
    Basic keyboard shortcuts (CTRL-L, CTRL+SHIFT+ESC)
    Soldering (Don't have to be good at it, just know what it is)
    Basic researching skills (persistence, reading comprehension, how to search for things on Google)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 17 July 2014, 07:25:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 17 July 2014, 02:13:53
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Thu, 17 July 2014, 01:59:19
    if keyboard were a subject, what knowledge would you need to possess in order to become 'proficient' at it?

    Touch typing
    How to properly plug in PS/2 keyboard
    Basic shortcuts
    Basic electronics relating to matrix construction and operation.

    Is that hard?  Or do you just mean that it's not plug'n'play?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 17 July 2014, 07:30:20
    Just the fact that they are not plug and play.  I have seen this be the problem for "Why isn't my Model M working?".  I see this coming up more often with the younger generations coming into custom/vintage hardware and PC's going away from PS/2 ports entirely.

    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 00:43:11
    Which teensy 2.0 (or 2.0++) compatible custom keyboard firmware is LED-compatible? Looking for (at least) pulse mode and variable brightness.

    I might be wrong here but you might need a dedicated LED driver for this functionality.  Though how to integrate this into a stock key, I have no idea how the software would work.  Though I don't see much of an issue to wire it to a separate switch if said driver has hook ups for that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 08:04:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 17 July 2014, 07:30:20
    Just the fact that they are not plug and play.  I have seen this be the problem for "Why isn't my Model M working?".  I see this coming up more often with the younger generations coming into custom/vintage hardware and PC's going away from PS/2 ports entirely.

    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 00:43:11
    Which teensy 2.0 (or 2.0++) compatible custom keyboard firmware is LED-compatible? Looking for (at least) pulse mode and variable brightness.

    I might be wrong here but you might need a dedicated LED driver for this functionality.  Though how to integrate this into a stock key, I have no idea how the software would work.  Though I don't see much of an issue to wire it to a separate switch if said driver has hook ups for that.

    Mind pointing me to the right direction for that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 17 July 2014, 09:08:09
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 08:04:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 17 July 2014, 07:30:20
    I might be wrong here but you might need a dedicated LED driver for this functionality.  Though how to integrate this into a stock key, I have no idea how the software would work.  Though I don't see much of an issue to wire it to a separate switch if said driver has hook ups for that.

    Mind pointing me to the right direction for that?

    Again, the TMK firmware has some code for backlight dimming, you should take a look at that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 09:25:55
    Thanks. I'll try to get into TMK again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 July 2014, 09:27:17
    Anyone have any experience with vintage clear mx switches? Is there such a thing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 July 2014, 09:28:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 July 2014, 09:27:17
    Anyone have any experience with vintage clear mx switches? Is there such a thing?

    So I have read that there is a break-in period and wear with MX Clears which make them feel nicer versus new Clears. I don't have any personal experience with it though. And I've never heard of vintage Clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Thu, 17 July 2014, 10:26:15
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 09:25:55
    Thanks. I'll try to get into TMK again.

    Feel free to post in the TMK thread. Hasu is generally nice and helpful and will probably give you some pointers on what files to look at and stuff. Though, sometimes it can feel like you are thrown into the deep end :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 11:39:48
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Thu, 17 July 2014, 10:26:15
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 09:25:55
    Thanks. I'll try to get into TMK again.

    Feel free to post in the TMK thread. Hasu is generally nice and helpful and will probably give you some pointers on what files to look at and stuff. Though, sometimes it can feel like you are thrown into the deep end :P
    Unfortunately, that's how I felt about firmwares. I managed to understand soarer's work thanks to Dorkvader, so now I'm loathe to try a new firmware because I feel overwhelmed every time I step into the thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 July 2014, 11:43:52
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 11:39:48
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Thu, 17 July 2014, 10:26:15
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 17 July 2014, 09:25:55
    Thanks. I'll try to get into TMK again.

    Feel free to post in the TMK thread. Hasu is generally nice and helpful and will probably give you some pointers on what files to look at and stuff. Though, sometimes it can feel like you are thrown into the deep end :P
    Unfortunately, that's how I felt about firmwares. I managed to understand soarer's work thanks to Dorkvader, so now I'm loathe to try a new firmware because I feel overwhelmed every time I step into the thread.

    Unless you ask questions, you won't get any help. It's not easy for me either since I'm not inclined to coding.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Thu, 17 July 2014, 16:41:38
    Best place to buy cheap cherry mx switches (small amount 50-100 pieces for diy)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 17 July 2014, 16:45:47
    Quote from: Vitaly on Thu, 17 July 2014, 16:41:38
    Best place to buy cheap cherry mx switches (small amount 50-100 pieces for diy)?

    Mechanicalkeyboards.com has them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Thu, 17 July 2014, 17:14:24
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 17 July 2014, 16:45:47
    Quote from: Vitaly on Thu, 17 July 2014, 16:41:38
    Best place to buy cheap cherry mx switches (small amount 50-100 pieces for diy)?

    Mechanicalkeyboards.com has them
    Good price for switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 17 July 2014, 17:25:01
    If you are capable of desoldering, it is often cheaper to buy and old Cherry POS board or similar and harvest switches from it. Depends what type of switch you are looking for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Thu, 17 July 2014, 17:41:07
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 July 2014, 17:25:01
    If you are capable of desoldering, it is often cheaper to buy and old Cherry POS board or similar and harvest switches from it. Depends what type of switch you are looking for.
    Think about clears for 40% keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 July 2014, 23:22:56
    Quote from: Vitaly on Thu, 17 July 2014, 17:41:07
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 17 July 2014, 17:25:01
    If you are capable of desoldering, it is often cheaper to buy and old Cherry POS board or similar and harvest switches from it. Depends what type of switch you are looking for.
    Think about clears for 40% keyboard.

    I managed to buy a Cherry MX8100 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57152.0) which had Clears for $25 shipped. You could also get lucky and hunt for a Cherry POS board for that price.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EpicSNES on Sat, 19 July 2014, 00:40:24
    This isn't really related to keyboards, but kind of. How do people get their keyboard icons in their forum signature's?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Sat, 19 July 2014, 00:42:33
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Sat, 19 July 2014, 00:40:24
    This isn't really related to keyboards, but kind of. How do people get their keyboard icons in their forum signature's?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.1250;topicseen
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 July 2014, 00:45:41
    Quote from: epzy on Sat, 19 July 2014, 00:42:33
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Sat, 19 July 2014, 00:40:24
    This isn't really related to keyboards, but kind of. How do people get their keyboard icons in their forum signature's?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.1250;topicseen

    This is also in the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_GG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:00:32
    I found that cherry mx switches have two mods: with diodes and with jumpers. Should take with diodes (if available) because it simplifies the work? And for what purpose jumpers in switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:03:29
    Quote from: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:00:32
    I found that cherry mx switches have two mods: with diodes and with jumpers. Should take with diodes (if available) because it simplifies the work? And for what purpose jumpers in switch?
    Jumpers are used to 'anchor' the switch down to the PCB I believe. Definitely not necessary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:05:47
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:03:29
    Quote from: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:00:32
    I found that cherry mx switches have two mods: with diodes and with jumpers. Should take with diodes (if available) because it simplifies the work? And for what purpose jumpers in switch?
    Jumpers are used to 'anchor' the switch down to the PCB I believe. Definitely not necessary.

    Are you sure?  I'm pretty sure my G80-1813-HFU PCB has traces for the jumpers and they're not just there to anchor the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:20:27
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:05:47
    Are you sure?  I'm pretty sure my G80-1813-HFU PCB has traces for the jumpers and they're not just there to anchor the switch.
    Yes, there are traces there. If you removed the jumpers from the switches you'd be breaking the circuit. So yes, the jumpers are part of the circuit, but the reason Cherry put them there in the first place is to anchor down the switch.

    I guess another possibility is that Cherry wanted to be able to use the same PCBs in both their NKRO and 2KRO keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:26:11
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:05:47
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:03:29
    Quote from: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:00:32
    I found that cherry mx switches have two mods: with diodes and with jumpers. Should take with diodes (if available) because it simplifies the work? And for what purpose jumpers in switch?
    Jumpers are used to 'anchor' the switch down to the PCB I believe. Definitely not necessary.

    Are you sure?  I'm pretty sure my G80-1813-HFU PCB has traces for the jumpers and they're not just there to anchor the switch.
    "jumper wires server couple purposes.  1: solder tie down of the other half of the switch, 2: PCB jumper for single layer boards where you need to hop over a trace to complete your matrix, " >> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36337.msg683367#msg683367

    I'm planned single sided pcb, but don't understand how jumper in switch hop over a trace?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 19 July 2014, 07:42:09
    Jumpers that are there to jump over a trace are usually not in the switches and just on the PCB itself. If you have a single layer PCB and you can't avoid two traces crossing each other you can use a jumper wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 09:19:37
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 19 July 2014, 07:42:09
    Jumpers that are there to jump over a trace are usually not in the switches and just on the PCB itself. If you have a single layer PCB and you can't avoid two traces crossing each other you can use a jumper wire.
    I understand purpose of jumpers, just confused jumper in switch, anyway I didn't find clears and browns with diodes, will buy with jumpers and see why they MX1A-C1J[umper]W.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 July 2014, 10:40:27


    Quote from: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 09:19:37
    I didn't find clears and browns with diodes, will buy with jumpers and see why they MX1A-C1J[umper]W.

    Just fyi, most people who buy lose switches end up buying the diodes too. I don't think it's very typical to have switched with diodes already in them.  I've personally never had any loose switches with diodes already installed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 19 July 2014, 10:55:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 July 2014, 10:40:27


    Quote from: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 09:19:37
    I didn't find clears and browns with diodes, will buy with jumpers and see why they MX1A-C1J[umper]W.

    Just fyi, most people who buy lose switches end up buying the diodes too. I don't think it's very typical to have switched with diodes already in them.  I've personally never had any loose switches with diodes already installed.

    Some of the second hand switches I bought that had been harvested off old boards had diodes in them. None of the newer ones I have bought did though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 11:39:56
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 19 July 2014, 10:55:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 July 2014, 10:40:27


    Quote from: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 09:19:37
    I didn't find clears and browns with diodes, will buy with jumpers and see why they MX1A-C1J[umper]W.

    Just fyi, most people who buy lose switches end up buying the diodes too. I don't think it's very typical to have switched with diodes already in them.  I've personally never had any loose switches with diodes already installed.

    Some of the second hand switches I bought that had been harvested off old boards had diodes in them. None of the newer ones I have bought did though.
    Thanks for answers. What diodes you can recommend? I think to buy this smd diodes 1N4148 http://www.ebay.com/itm/170817905272.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 July 2014, 12:02:59
    Quote from: Vitaly on Sat, 19 July 2014, 11:39:56
    What diodes you can recommend? I think to buy this smd diodes 1N4148 http://www.ebay.com/itm/170817905272.

    The 1N4148 will work fine. I typically order mine from Mouser but I'm not sure what's available to you in Russia.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clacktalk on Sat, 19 July 2014, 13:07:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 July 2014, 23:22:56
    I managed to buy a Cherry MX8100 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57152.0) which had Clears for $25 shipped. You could also get lucky and hunt for a Cherry POS board for that price.

    Is this the cheapest board that's easiest to find if I wanted to harvest Clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 July 2014, 14:26:39
    Quote from: clacktalk on Sat, 19 July 2014, 13:07:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 July 2014, 23:22:56
    I managed to buy a Cherry MX8100 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57152.0) which had Clears for $25 shipped. You could also get lucky and hunt for a Cherry POS board for that price.

    Is this the cheapest board that's easiest to find if I wanted to harvest Clears?
    That's the cheapest option I've come across.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 19 July 2014, 14:28:34
    Quote from: clacktalk on Sat, 19 July 2014, 13:07:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 July 2014, 23:22:56
    I managed to buy a Cherry MX8100 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57152.0) which had Clears for $25 shipped. You could also get lucky and hunt for a Cherry POS board for that price.

    Is this the cheapest board that's easiest to find if I wanted to harvest Clears?

    Be careful they also come with browns so YMMV.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:04:39
    Any idea what switches these might be?
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:13:56
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:04:39
    Any idea what switches these might be?
    (Attachment Link)

    No idea. Is that transparent plastic? Can you take a cap off?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:26:15
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:13:56
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:04:39
    Any idea what switches these might be?
    (Attachment Link)

    No idea. Is that transparent plastic? Can you take a cap off?
    it looks transparent, I asked the seller. Here's the keyboards:
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:27:39
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:26:15
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:13:56
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:04:39
    Any idea what switches these might be?
    (Attachment Link)

    No idea. Is that transparent plastic? Can you take a cap off?
    it looks transparent, I asked the seller. Here's the keyboards:
    (Attachment Link)

    Those might be hall effect?

    HaaTa would probably know better than me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:46:28
    I don't remember ever seeing any transparent switches this tall, so no idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 18:48:48
    You'd think sellers would start taking the hint and posting pics of the switches right off the bat
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 22:16:17
    So what in the sam hell are these (sorry, apparently the seller has the worst camera in the entire world)? The second one look mx compatibleish
    [attach=1]
    [attach=2]
    [attach=3]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 20 July 2014, 04:00:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 22:16:17
    So what in the sam hell are these (sorry, apparently the seller has the worst camera in the entire world)? The second one look mx compatibleish
    (Attachment Link)
    (Attachment Link)
    (Attachment Link)

    Still no idea on the first one. Very tall, transparent housing and a metal slider doesn't ring a bell and I couldn't find anything in the DT wiki either.

    I did find something about the other switch though: It is an unknown switch that is currently labelled USw LXBW01.
    Here's the DT wiki article: http://deskthority.net/wiki/USw_LXBW01
    And here is an imgur album of somebody who found some of these switches before: http://imgur.com/a/zgCm6
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Sun, 20 July 2014, 04:22:57
    Moar custom / prototype keyboard questions!

    Which program would make modifying CAD files easiest?

    Preferably something open sourced :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 20 July 2014, 04:47:43
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Sun, 20 July 2014, 04:22:57
    Moar custom / prototype keyboard questions!

    Which program would make modifying CAD files easiest?

    Preferably something open sourced :P

    For 2D CAD I can only recommend LibreCAD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Sun, 20 July 2014, 05:50:17
    Gracias. Gonna try that. If it works, then I won't be back :P

    p/s: this info should be in the CAD thread :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 20 July 2014, 09:58:08
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Sun, 20 July 2014, 04:22:57
    Moar custom / prototype keyboard questions!

    Which program would make modifying CAD files easiest?

    Preferably something open sourced :P

    I highly recommend autodesk inventor for 3D and Autocad for 2D. I'm not a huge fan of the open source programs and those are what I've used at work. They're also commonly used in industry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:00:25
    Unfortunately, I don't think I can afford to buy Autocad unless I get the eyepatch version :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:05:04
    What thickness is good for PCB mount design plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:26:39
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:00:25
    Unfortunately, I don't think I can afford to buy Autocad unless I get the eyepatch version :(

    If you're a student you get it for free on their website.

    Quote from: Vitaly on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:05:04
    What thickness is good for PCB mount design plate?

    Are asking for PCB thickness?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:32:30
    looks like he's asking for plate thickness
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:35:29
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:26:39
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:00:25
    Unfortunately, I don't think I can afford to buy Autocad unless I get the eyepatch version :(

    If you're a student you get it for free on their website.

    Quote from: Vitaly on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:05:04
    What thickness is good for PCB mount design plate?

    Are asking for PCB thickness?
    Yes pcb thickness (metal plate thickness for future projects also good to know)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 20 July 2014, 13:32:30
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 20 July 2014, 04:00:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 22:16:17
    So what in the sam hell are these (sorry, apparently the seller has the worst camera in the entire world)? The second one look mx compatibleish
    (Attachment Link)
    (Attachment Link)
    (Attachment Link)

    Still no idea on the first one. Very tall, transparent housing and a metal slider doesn't ring a bell and I couldn't find anything in the DT wiki either.

    I did find something about the other switch though: It is an unknown switch that is currently labelled USw LXBW01.
    Here's the DT wiki article: http://deskthority.net/wiki/USw_LXBW01
    And here is an imgur album of somebody who found some of these switches before: http://imgur.com/a/zgCm6
    Ah, guess I'll just have to wait to find out on the first one ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 20 July 2014, 14:08:26
    Quote from: Vitaly on Sun, 20 July 2014, 12:35:29
    Yes pcb thickness (metal plate thickness for future projects also good to know)

    PCB and plate should be 1.6mm thick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 20 July 2014, 15:26:46
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Sun, 20 July 2014, 11:00:25
    Unfortunately, I don't think I can afford to buy Autocad unless I get the eyepatch version :(
    You can register any email address and just say you're a student. I have a 5 year license and I just dled it from their student side.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Sun, 20 July 2014, 15:48:16
    You can get every Autodesk product from their site for free even with a Gmail account. Just search for student downloads they don't require .edu mail like Adobe...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Sun, 20 July 2014, 16:06:15
    Well it is a good thing I now have a college .edu email :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LONGZILLA on Sun, 20 July 2014, 18:18:36
    The wire/clip for a cherry stabilizer got loose from the mount and inserts. Is there a trick to getting the wire back into place for a plate mounted PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 20 July 2014, 18:22:23
    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Sun, 20 July 2014, 18:18:36
    The wire/clip for a cherry stabilizer got loose from the mount and inserts. Is there a trick to getting the wire back into place for a plate mounted PCB?

    You can try pushing it back in with a screwdriver, but be careful to not damage anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Mon, 21 July 2014, 02:44:35
    NVM my brother forwarded me a copy of Autocad. Apparently, working in as an engineer in a multinational gets him free copies, although he isn't telling me how exactly he got one :|

    Well, it's off to learn how to use this befuddled software!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 06:14:38
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Mon, 21 July 2014, 02:44:35
    My brother forwarded me a copy of Autocad.

    Well, it's off to learn how to use this befuddled software!

    If you need help, PM me. I know a lot about CAD.


    Quote from: LONGZILLA on Sun, 20 July 2014, 18:18:36
    The wire/clip for a cherry stabilizer got loose from the mount and inserts. Is there a trick to getting the wire back into place for a plate mounted PCB?

    For me a mix of pliers, small screwdrivers, and patience helped me reset the wire in my KMAC after I accidently loosened it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Mon, 21 July 2014, 06:48:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 06:14:38
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Mon, 21 July 2014, 02:44:35
    My brother forwarded me a copy of Autocad.

    Well, it's off to learn how to use this befuddled software!

    If you need help, PM me. I know a lot about CAD.
    Can you post useful links here for those who start with CAD and diy keyboards and can you explain which job you do in Autocad and which in Inventor? I thought authocad work's well for 3d ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 07:14:40
    Quote from: Vitaly on Mon, 21 July 2014, 06:48:35
    1) Can you post useful links here for those who start with CAD and diy keyboards

    2) can you explain which job you do in Autocad and which in Inventor?

    3) I thought authocad work's well for 3d ?

    1) I don't think there's any info I can currently think of for an introduction to CAD. I know there are books about CAD that you can buy and use to help you. There might be some information online. All my help and advice is from my own professional experience. There is a few CAD threads on Geekhack and you can go into the Making Stuff Together subforum to get some info there.

    2) AutoCAD = 2D, Inventor = 3D. I model everything in 3D CAD programs just because I'm used to doing that. If you're designing a keyboard, you don't necessarily need a 3D CAD program but I recommend it because a lot of people can't visualize things in 2D space. 3D models are easier to look at and interpret.

    3) No. AutoCAD is 2D AFAIK. The newer AutoCAD packages may have 3D but I have only seen it used and only used it in a 2D capacity.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 21 July 2014, 13:53:40
    AutoCAD is and always was 3D, I would recommend other 3D CAD software though

    Edit: The difference between AutoCAD and Inventor is the interface and you can actually make movement animations in Inventor. For other software I would recommend SolidWorks or you can even try Maya.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 13:57:01
    Quote from: Candyflip on Mon, 21 July 2014, 13:53:40
    AutoCAD is and always was 3D, I would recommend other 3D CAD software though

    I've never used it in it's 3D capacity. I've always seen it used in industry as a 2D package and from a quick Google search, the rendering of the models looks poor. Maybe that's why I've never seen it in 3D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Mon, 21 July 2014, 14:06:37
    I am looking to buy o-rings for my cherry mx blue and red keyboards. There are two types available: thinner red 40A-L and thicker blue 40A-R. I am thinking about putting 40A-L on cherry mx reds, and 40A-R on cherry mx blues, what do you think? I am mainly interested to hear if someone tried 40A-R rings on blue switches, does it feel good? It seems like it should feel good, but not sure :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 14:18:49
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Mon, 21 July 2014, 14:06:37
    I am looking to buy o-rings for my cherry mx blue and red keyboards. There are two types available: thinner red 40A-L and thicker blue 40A-R. I am thinking about putting 40A-L on cherry mx reds, and 40A-R on cherry mx blues, what do you think? I am mainly interested to hear if someone tried 40A-R rings on blue switches, does it feel good? It seems like it should feel good, but not sure :D

    My personal experience with o-rings can be found in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0). Additionally, here are some more reviews your might be interested in (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53990.0#post_rev). I preferred the 40A-L o-rings overall as I felt the -R reduced travel too much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agodinhost on Mon, 21 July 2014, 14:24:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 07:14:40
    Quote from: Vitaly on Mon, 21 July 2014, 06:48:35
    1) Can you post useful links here for those who start with CAD and diy keyboards

    2) can you explain which job you do in Autocad and which in Inventor?

    3) I thought authocad work's well for 3d ?

    1) I don't think there's any info I can currently think of for an introduction to CAD. I know there are books about CAD that you can buy and use to help you. There might be some information online. All my help and advice is from my own professional experience. There is a few CAD threads on Geekhack and you can go into the Making Stuff Together subforum to get some info there.

    2) AutoCAD = 2D, Inventor = 3D. I model everything in 3D CAD programs just because I'm used to doing that. If you're designing a keyboard, you don't necessarily need a 3D CAD program but I recommend it because a lot of people can't visualize things in 2D space. 3D models are easier to look at and interpret.

    3) No. AutoCAD is 2D AFAIK. The newer AutoCAD packages may have 3D but I have only seen it used and only used it in a 2D capacity.
    OpenSCad and FreeCad are good too (IMHO)
    quite easy to learn ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Mon, 21 July 2014, 15:52:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 14:18:49
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Mon, 21 July 2014, 14:06:37
    I am looking to buy o-rings for my cherry mx blue and red keyboards. There are two types available: thinner red 40A-L and thicker blue 40A-R. I am thinking about putting 40A-L on cherry mx reds, and 40A-R on cherry mx blues, what do you think? I am mainly interested to hear if someone tried 40A-R rings on blue switches, does it feel good? It seems like it should feel good, but not sure :D

    My personal experience with o-rings can be found in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40227.0). Additionally, here are some more reviews your might be interested in (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53990.0#post_rev). I preferred the 40A-L o-rings overall as I felt the -R reduced travel too much.

    Yeah, I read those links, thanks. But still can't decide.. I have a feeling that those thicker o-rings will feel better for me, thinking about buying both sets, if I am lucky I can put one on each of keyboards.

    P.s. are there any specialized shops which sell similar sized o-rings? Because I don't feel like paying 15 euros for pack of rings, which are essentially free.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 20:21:36


    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Mon, 21 July 2014, 15:52:48
    P.s. are there any specialized shops which sell similar sized o-rings? Because I don't feel like paying 15 euros for pack of rings, which are essentially free.

    I think Max Keyboards carries O rings.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 21 July 2014, 20:44:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 20:21:36


    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Mon, 21 July 2014, 15:52:48
    P.s. are there any specialized shops which sell similar sized o-rings? Because I don't feel like paying 15 euros for pack of rings, which are essentially free.

    I think Max Keyboards carries O rings.

    http://www.maxkeyboard.com/cherry-mx-rubber-o-ring-dampeners-110pcs.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 21 July 2014, 22:12:12
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 21 July 2014, 20:44:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 July 2014, 20:21:36


    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Mon, 21 July 2014, 15:52:48
    P.s. are there any specialized shops which sell similar sized o-rings? Because I don't feel like paying 15 euros for pack of rings, which are essentially free.

    I think Max Keyboards carries O rings.

    http://www.maxkeyboard.com/cherry-mx-rubber-o-ring-dampeners-110pcs.html

    I hate when o-rings are advertised as "0.4mm reduction".  You didn't even specify which profile keycaps you are referencing.  How do I know what keycap profile Max Keyboards uses if I don't own one (or even if I do).  That just leads to confusion around o-rings because if its 0.4mm reduction on OEM keycaps, it is going to SUCK on Cherry caps.  If it is 0.4mm on Cherry caps, then it won't even be noticeable on OEM caps.

    Its frustrating because so many people are confused about o-rings and this type of advertising isn't helping at all.  I should write a proper guide with links to all the different suppliers and compare what you get...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Tue, 22 July 2014, 01:59:14
    Quote from: swill on Mon, 21 July 2014, 22:12:12

    I hate when o-rings are advertised as "0.4mm reduction".  You didn't even specify which profile keycaps you are referencing.  How do I know what keycap profile Max Keyboards uses if I don't own one (or even if I do).  That just leads to confusion around o-rings because if its 0.4mm reduction on OEM keycaps, it is going to SUCK on Cherry caps.  If it is 0.4mm on Cherry caps, then it won't even be noticeable on OEM caps.

    Its frustrating because so many people are confused about o-rings and this type of advertising isn't helping at all.  I should write a proper guide with links to all the different suppliers and compare what you get...

    Hey Swill, which o-rings (40A-L or 40A-R) would you advice for cherry mx red and cherry mx blue keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 July 2014, 05:09:28


    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Tue, 22 July 2014, 01:59:14
    Hey Swill, which o-rings (40A-L or 40A-R) would you advice for cherry mx red and cherry mx blue keyboards?

    Well if I'm not mistaken, swill is saying that the keycaps will influence how your O-rings feel. So perhaps you can let us know what keycaps you plan on using because he's got a good point.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:42:52
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Tue, 22 July 2014, 01:59:14
    Quote from: swill on Mon, 21 July 2014, 22:12:12

    I hate when o-rings are advertised as "0.4mm reduction".  You didn't even specify which profile keycaps you are referencing.  How do I know what keycap profile Max Keyboards uses if I don't own one (or even if I do).  That just leads to confusion around o-rings because if its 0.4mm reduction on OEM keycaps, it is going to SUCK on Cherry caps.  If it is 0.4mm on Cherry caps, then it won't even be noticeable on OEM caps.

    Its frustrating because so many people are confused about o-rings and this type of advertising isn't helping at all.  I should write a proper guide with links to all the different suppliers and compare what you get...

    Hey Swill, which o-rings (40A-L or 40A-R) would you advice for cherry mx red and cherry mx blue keyboards?

    I will have to check what the difference is.

    Do you have links to the two options you are considering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:44:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 July 2014, 05:09:28


    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Tue, 22 July 2014, 01:59:14
    Hey Swill, which o-rings (40A-L or 40A-R) would you advice for cherry mx red and cherry mx blue keyboards?

    Well if I'm not mistaken, swill is saying that the keycaps will influence how your O-rings feel. So perhaps you can let us know what keycaps you plan on using because he's got a good point.

    Yes. Keycaps matter. MX switch types don't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:45:10
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:42:52
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Tue, 22 July 2014, 01:59:14
    Hey Swill, which o-rings (40A-L or 40A-R) would you advice for cherry mx red and cherry mx blue keyboards?

    I will have to check what the difference is.


    They're different thicknesses. WASD shows that the (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-accessories/cherry-mx-rubber-o-ring-switch-dampeners-125pcs.html#ad-image-0) 40A-R is 0.4mm thickness and 40A-L is 0.2mm thickness. Both have a Shore Durometer hardness of 40A.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:56:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:45:10
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:42:52
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Tue, 22 July 2014, 01:59:14
    Hey Swill, which o-rings (40A-L or 40A-R) would you advice for cherry mx red and cherry mx blue keyboards?

    I will have to check what the difference is.


    They're different thicknesses. WASD shows that the (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-accessories/cherry-mx-rubber-o-ring-switch-dampeners-125pcs.html#ad-image-0) 40A-R is 0.4mm thickness and 40A-L is 0.2mm thickness. Both have a Shore Durometer hardness of 40A.

    Another site that advertises reduction without specifying which cap profile is being used to test. Do you know if WASD sells OEM profile? It looks like it from the bottom of the cap, but I can't tell for sure.

    Also, $18 for o-rings? Really?  With the keycap profile you are using I can probably find you a less expensive alternative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:58:04
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:56:25
    Do you know if WASD sells OEM profile?

    I'm fairly sure they sell OEM profile caps. It's been a while since I've seen WASD keycaps though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:05:23
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 06:56:25

    Also, $18 for o-rings?


    There are loads of O-rings available on ebay and elsewhere for a third of that price, but you may not find precisely the thickness and hardness that is ideal for your keyboard.

    Personally, I want the thinnest and softest I can find, but most "industrial" rings are harder and fatter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EpicSNES on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:34:24
    After a few days I've realized I really don't like the o-rings I've chosen for my board..... does someone know of an easy way to remove them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:36:04
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:34:24
    After a few days I've realized I really don't like the o-rings I've chosen for my board..... does someone know of an easy way to remove them?

    Pull all the keycaps then use a pocket knife/screwdriver/pliers/fingers to take them out of the keycaps or off the stems. It's really easy. As easy as putting them on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:36:17
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:34:24
    After a few days I've realized I really don't like the o-rings I've chosen for my board..... does someone know of an easy way to remove them?

    You can easily remove them with your fingers. You could use a wire keycap puller as well, works pretty good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:37:21

    Quote from: EpicSNES on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:34:24
    After a few days I've realized I really don't like the o-rings I've chosen for my board..... does someone know of an easy way to remove them?

    You're screwed. Just burn the keyboard and move on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EpicSNES on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:39:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:36:04
    Pull all the keycaps then use a pocket knife/screwdriver/pliers/fingers to take them out of the keycaps or off the stems. It's really easy. As easy as putting them on.

    Quote from: epzy on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:36:17
    You can easily remove them with your fingers. You could use a wire keycap puller as well, works pretty good.

    Yeah I felt really dumb asking. For me the o-rings were actually difficult to put on, I don't have thin fingers so I can't just pull them out. I'll use my keycap puller. Plus they're PBT caps and I just don't want to damage the keycaps, even if it's the bottom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:51:12
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Mon, 21 July 2014, 15:52:48

    Yeah, I read those links, thanks. But still can't decide.. I have a feeling that those thicker o-rings will feel better for me, thinking about buying both sets, if I am lucky I can put one on each of keyboards.

    P.s. are there any specialized shops which sell similar sized o-rings? Because I don't feel like paying 15 euros for pack of rings, which are essentially free.

    If you are looking for thicker (but still soft) O-rings, you should take a look at my thread : [IC] Soft O-rings (40A) (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60866.0)

    I'm really happy with those "fat" O-rings (Cherry MX Clear switches // WASD OEM profile keycaps). If they were more people interested, this could be cheaper to produce.

    By the way, I could send you some I have left (~10).


    EDIT : I'm using a curved tweezer to remove my o-rings, it's really easy this way :

    (http://www.lashstuff.com/resources/Vetus%20Tweezers%20Curved.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 08:49:02
    Quote from: Lpwl on Tue, 22 July 2014, 07:51:12
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Mon, 21 July 2014, 15:52:48

    Yeah, I read those links, thanks. But still can't decide.. I have a feeling that those thicker o-rings will feel better for me, thinking about buying both sets, if I am lucky I can put one on each of keyboards.

    P.s. are there any specialized shops which sell similar sized o-rings? Because I don't feel like paying 15 euros for pack of rings, which are essentially free.

    If you are looking for thicker (but still soft) O-rings, you should take a look at my thread : [IC] Soft O-rings (40A) (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60866.0)

    I'm really happy with those "fat" O-rings (Cherry MX Clear switches // WASD OEM profile keycaps). If they were more people interested, this could be cheaper to produce.

    By the way, I could send you some I have left (~10).


    EDIT : I'm using a curved tweezer to remove my o-rings, it's really easy this way :

    Show Image
    (http://www.lashstuff.com/resources/Vetus%20Tweezers%20Curved.gif)


    Have you tested 2.5mm o-rings on any keycaps? According to my calculations you will start to have issues with switch actuation on OEM beyond something like 2.3mm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Tue, 22 July 2014, 09:01:44
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 08:49:02
    Have you tested 2.5mm o-rings on any keycaps? According to my calculations you will start to have issues with switch actuation on OEM beyond something like 2.3mm.

    I'm using them for several months without any problem (gaming / coding / etc) on MX Clear switches.

    WhireFireDragon also tried (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25612.0) these "fat" O-rings and many geekhackers bought them from a group by (pack E & G) (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25714.msg483521#msg483521) 2 years ago :

    Quote from: WhireFireDragon
    the largest "fat" O-rings (pack E or G) is the max thickness you can get without interfering with the actuation point. On my MX blues, they bottom out just after the actuation click. i have tested may times and they never bottom out before the actuation point under any circumstance.

    I could send you some too Swill if you wish.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 10:01:23
    Quote from: Lpwl on Tue, 22 July 2014, 09:01:44
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 08:49:02
    Have you tested 2.5mm o-rings on any keycaps? According to my calculations you will start to have issues with switch actuation on OEM beyond something like 2.3mm.

    I'm using them for several months without any problem (gaming / coding / etc) on MX Clear switches.

    WhireFireDragon also tried (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25612.0) these "fat" O-rings and many geekhackers bought them from a group by (pack E & G) (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25714.msg483521#msg483521) 2 years ago :

    Quote from: WhireFireDragon
    the largest "fat" O-rings (pack E or G) is the max thickness you can get without interfering with the actuation point. On my MX blues, they bottom out just after the actuation click. i have tested may times and they never bottom out before the actuation point under any circumstance.

    I could send you some too Swill if you wish.

    If you could send me 2 or 3, I will include them in my upcoming guide. I will pay for shipping.  I have asked in the 'free stuff' thread for people to send me o-rings if they have a link to where they got them so I can do a comprehensive guide with measurements and such.

    My guess is that they may be called 2.5mm but a measurement of the o-ring will probably show a slightly different size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Tue, 22 July 2014, 11:39:46
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 10:01:23
    Quote from: Lpwl on Tue, 22 July 2014, 09:01:44
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 08:49:02
    Have you tested 2.5mm o-rings on any keycaps? According to my calculations you will start to have issues with switch actuation on OEM beyond something like 2.3mm.

    I'm using them for several months without any problem (gaming / coding / etc) on MX Clear switches.

    WhireFireDragon also tried (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25612.0) these "fat" O-rings and many geekhackers bought them from a group by (pack E & G) (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=25714.msg483521#msg483521) 2 years ago :

    Quote from: WhireFireDragon
    the largest "fat" O-rings (pack E or G) is the max thickness you can get without interfering with the actuation point. On my MX blues, they bottom out just after the actuation click. i have tested may times and they never bottom out before the actuation point under any circumstance.

    I could send you some too Swill if you wish.

    If you could send me 2 or 3, I will include them in my upcoming guide. I will pay for shipping.  I have asked in the 'free stuff' thread for people to send me o-rings if they have a link to where they got them so I can do a comprehensive guide with measurements and such.

    My guess is that they may be called 2.5mm but a measurement of the o-ring will probably show a slightly different size.

    Ok cool !

    You can PM me with your details  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 22 July 2014, 20:08:04
    Anyone know how the HHKB logo is printed onto the HHKB Pro 1? Laser? Dyesub?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: skuko on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:16:28
    since i didn't find any relevant forum for this, i will just ask here:

    what is your experience with originative please? (if any)

    i have ordered a GMK orange on charcoal from them on the 17th July (i think) and received a "shipping" mail from them on the 18th, but USPS only states that they received electronic shipping info and it does not necessarily mean that the item was indeed shipped. i have requested more info on this from originative, but only received a generic reply with the same tracking number that i already had.

    i'm starting to doubt that they even have it in stock, even though it was not marked as sold out. i have ordered it assuming that the wares would be readily available.

    just wanted to ask about their practices (should probably have done so before ordering), because something stinks here. i will not hesitate with a chargeback if i don't receive a satisfying answer from them within a reasonable timeframe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:22:35
    Quote from: skuko on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:16:28
    since i didn't find any relevant forum for this, i will just ask here:

    what is your experience with originative please? (if any)

    i have ordered a GMK orange on charcoal from them on the 17th July (i think) and received a "shipping" mail from them on the 18th, but USPS only states that they received electronic shipping info and it does not necessarily mean that the item was indeed shipped. i have requested more info on this from originative, but only received a generic reply with the same tracking number that i already had.

    i'm starting to doubt that they even have it in stock, even though it was not marked as sold out. i have ordered it assuming that the wares would be readily available.

    just wanted to ask about their practices (should probably have done so before ordering), because something stinks here. i will not hesitate with a chargeback if i don't receive a satisfying answer from them within a reasonable timeframe.

    Originative Vendor Review, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57652.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:28:14
    Quote from: skuko on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:16:28
    just wanted to ask about their practices (should probably have done so before ordering), because something stinks here. i will not hesitate with a chargeback if i don't receive a satisfying answer from them within a reasonable timeframe.

    Check the link jorgenslee posted: Originative is known for that, stuff simply not getting sent out happend often enough and is still happening. You can try sending Originative an email threatening chargeback, if that doesn't work don't be afraid of doing it, better safe than sorry. Be aware that there is only a certain timeframe in which you can get your money back easily (it depends on your payment method afaik).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: skuko on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:29:03
    yeah just read the thread...now i'm wondering if i should file a chargeback right now, or wait.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:11:28
    keep us posted
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 23 July 2014, 09:19:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 22 July 2014, 20:08:04
    Anyone know how the HHKB logo is printed onto the HHKB Pro 1? Laser? Dyesub?

    Can't answer authoritatively but you can at least rule out dyesub, 'cause that would melt the ABS case.

    On my HHKB 2s, the logo is pretty solidly filled yet has no texture. If I had to guess I'd say some kind of printing, since I think lasering almost always changes the texture. But I'm just guessing, and its possible the Pro 1 was different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 23 July 2014, 09:21:38
    Quote from: skuko on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:29:03
    yeah just read the thread...now i'm wondering if i should file a chargeback right now, or wait.
    If there is electronic shipping info that means they've paid for the shipping. That tells me that they're probably planning to send them to you :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Demetrium on Wed, 23 July 2014, 10:01:47
    Can anyone give a quick description on the feel of Matias Quiet Clicks?

    http://matias.ca/switches/quiet/

    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/matias-secure-pro?mode=guest_open&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Massdrop%20-%20Master&utm_campaign=Product%20Announcement%202014-07-22

    From what I'm guessing they're probably like stiffer browns? I do a lot of gaming on reds currently. Would these be awful for it? I'm really interested in getting a smaller wireless mechanical so I can quickly clear my desk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 July 2014, 10:05:13
    Quote from: Demetrium on Wed, 23 July 2014, 10:01:47
    Can anyone give a quick description on the feel of Matias Quiet Clicks?

    From my Alps vs MX review thread, here are my impressions of them. They feel like dampened cream Alps but most people don't have a lot of experience with Alps.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:20:48
    Matias Quiet Click Alps clones – A while back there was a thread about adding silicone balls to the MX switch housings. I think that this switch might feel like a heavier MX Brown with one of those balls inside. When you press down, the switch feels sort of like the Matias Click. When you bottom out, it’s cushiony. Then on the rebound, the switch also has a bit of dampening so the top out feels cushiony, but not as much as the bottom out. It’s definitely a very unique typing experience.

    I don't know what you're looking for when you're gaming so if you're ok with tactile bumps, this may work out for you. I've never gamed on the Quiets but I can game on anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Demetrium on Wed, 23 July 2014, 10:07:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 July 2014, 10:05:13
    Quote from: Demetrium on Wed, 23 July 2014, 10:01:47
    Can anyone give a quick description on the feel of Matias Quiet Clicks?

    From my Alps vs MX review thread, here are my impressions of them. They feel like dampened cream Alps but most people don't have a lot of experience with Alps.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 06 July 2014, 15:20:48
    Matias Quiet Click Alps clones – A while back there was a thread about adding silicone balls to the MX switch housings. I think that this switch might feel like a heavier MX Brown with one of those balls inside. When you press down, the switch feels sort of like the Matias Click. When you bottom out, it’s cushiony. Then on the rebound, the switch also has a bit of dampening so the top out feels cushiony, but not as much as the bottom out. It’s definitely a very unique typing experience.

    I don't know what you're looking for when you're gaming so if you're ok with tactile bumps, this may work out for you. I've never gamed on the Quiets but I can game on anything.

    Interesting! Thanks for the quick reply!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 23 July 2014, 18:15:12
    Can you put a G80-1800 PCB in a G81-1800 case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Wed, 23 July 2014, 18:16:56
    Got both red 40A-L and blue 40A-R rings. Mechanicalkeyboards.nl send me one package for free, super happy about that!

    Now I tried blue o-rings on my filco cherry mx blues and it feels amazing! I regret that I didn't mod it earlier, it feels awesome.

    Red o-rings installed on my Poker 2 with red switches, and it definitely feels better, but overall red switches feels kind of cheap for me, dunno why. Cherry mx blues are little bit too hard for me, and reds are very light which I like but they feel very cheap. I think cherry mx brown would be perfect for me how do you think?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 July 2014, 18:20:38
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 23 July 2014, 18:15:12
    Can you put a G80-1800 PCB in a G81-1800 case?

    I can't find the thread where Ivan and I think Photekq were talking about it but this thread from sth seems to be helpful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34734.0). I believe that you can but you'll have to cut some supports and things out of the G81 case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kevinlivecomau on Thu, 24 July 2014, 02:18:08
    Just removed the top of my filco case for cleaning and discovered that I quite like the feel of the keyboard without having it on. My concern is having the keyboard's controller exposed. Can this be harmful to my keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 24 July 2014, 02:21:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 July 2014, 18:20:38
    I can't find the thread where Ivan and I think Photekq were talking about it but this thread from sth seems to be helpful (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34734.0). I believe that you can but you'll have to cut some supports and things out of the G81 case.
    I think it really depends on the particular case/PCB. Cherry has revised their cases and PCBs multiple times. I know for a fact that with all of my G80/G81 frankenboards no modification was required. However, all of mine are old winkeyless cases. Other ones may require some modification.

    Also, I have never tried this with 1800 cases, only 3000s.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 24 July 2014, 06:12:29
    Quote from: kevinlivecomau on Thu, 24 July 2014, 02:18:08
    Just removed the top of my filco case for cleaning and discovered that I quite like the feel of the keyboard without having it on. My concern is having the keyboard's controller exposed. Can this be harmful to my keyboard?
    Other than the fact that it's easier for dust and water to get on the controller, you'll be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:23:14
    Does anyone know what switches the keyboard for the colecovision Adam used?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:25:17
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:23:14
    Does anyone know what switches the keyboard for the colecovision Adam used?

    Ah yes, the ADAM. The excuse to own a ColecoVision. But Mom, Dad, it's a computer!


    I was jealous of my friend who owned the ColecoVision. I only had an Atari 2600.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:26:00
    This might be a dumb question, but I haven't found an answer in my searches.

    Can I make the HHKB delete key (with DIPs such that upper right is delete and above enter is backspace) work as delete without being under a function layer?  This is my one complaint with the HHKB layout.  Adding an extra key press just to delete things is silly.

    Thanks in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 24 July 2014, 17:59:01
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:26:00
    Adding an extra key press just to delete things is silly.

    I have never understood the lack of respect for the Delete key.

    One of my favorite, and most-used keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 24 July 2014, 18:06:46
    Is Code::Blocks a sutible environment for a beginner learning to code and write custom firmware?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 18:09:00
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:26:00
    This might be a dumb question, but I haven't found an answer in my searches.

    Can I make the HHKB delete key (with DIPs such that upper right is delete and above enter is backspace) work as delete without being under a function layer?  This is my one complaint with the HHKB layout.  Adding an extra key press just to delete things is silly.

    Thanks in advance.

    Sadly not with the stock controller. With a custom one you can of course do whatever you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 July 2014, 18:13:39
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 18:09:00
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:26:00
    This might be a dumb question, but I haven't found an answer in my searches.

    Can I make the HHKB delete key (with DIPs such that upper right is delete and above enter is backspace) work as delete without being under a function layer?  This is my one complaint with the HHKB layout.  Adding an extra key press just to delete things is silly.

    Thanks in advance.

    Sadly not with the stock controller. With a custom one you can of course do whatever you want.

    Thanks for the answer!  I guess this means it's time to finish reading your guide, pull a teensy out of the drawer, and get working!   :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 20:41:20
    You can also easily accomplish that with Autohotkey or Karabiner. Much easier than doing a hardware mod.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:01:45
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 20:41:20
    You can also easily accomplish that with Autohotkey or Karabiner. Much easier than doing a hardware mod.

    Yeah.  I've always found software mods a bit tedious though.  It's a good temporary solution for sure, but then I have to make sure my AHK scripts are synced across my computers or I'll frustrate myself, and then when I use it with OTG on my tablet I'm back to square one.  Better to hardware mod it, IMO.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:09:34
    Semi shot in the dark here, but I was recently tasked with creating a keyboard with three control knobs. I don't have to do anything in the programming side, but I need to know what parts should I get as the control knob?

    Any help?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:21:09
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:09:34
    Semi shot in the dark here, but I was recently tasked with creating a keyboard with three control knobs. I don't have to do anything in the programming side, but I need to know what parts should I get as the control knob?

    Any help?

    What are the control knobs supposed to do?  That will have a large impact on what to use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:54:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:21:09
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:09:34
    Semi shot in the dark here, but I was recently tasked with creating a keyboard with three control knobs. I don't have to do anything in the programming side, but I need to know what parts should I get as the control knob?

    Any help?

    What are the control knobs supposed to do?  That will have a large impact on what to use.
    They are used to control photo characteristics in Adobe Lightroom.

    Basically, my guy's wrist is aching from clicking, holding and dragging sliders around in Adobe.

    What he wants is a device with three knobs (apparently control sliders comes in groups of three in lightroom) to control these sliders instead of relying on mouse clicks.

    Apparently, the knobs should also be usable for controlling video editing stuff, but he needs that one urgently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 24 July 2014, 22:18:44
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:54:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:21:09
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:09:34
    Semi shot in the dark here, but I was recently tasked with creating a keyboard with three control knobs. I don't have to do anything in the programming side, but I need to know what parts should I get as the control knob?

    Any help?

    What are the control knobs supposed to do?  That will have a large impact on what to use.
    They are used to control photo characteristics in Adobe Lightroom.

    Basically, my guy's wrist is aching from clicking, holding and dragging sliders around in Adobe.

    What he wants is a device with three knobs (apparently control sliders comes in groups of three in lightroom) to control these sliders instead of relying on mouse clicks.

    Apparently, the knobs should also be usable for controlling video editing stuff, but he needs that one urgently.

    Gotcha.  That I have zero clue about how to go about that.  Though that would probably be outside the realm of a simple answer unless you know how to go about the programming for that.  My suggestion would be a new thread in the Making Stuff Together section.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 23:54:15
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 24 July 2014, 22:18:44
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:54:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:21:09
    Quote from: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 21:09:34
    Semi shot in the dark here, but I was recently tasked with creating a keyboard with three control knobs. I don't have to do anything in the programming side, but I need to know what parts should I get as the control knob?

    Any help?

    What are the control knobs supposed to do?  That will have a large impact on what to use.
    They are used to control photo characteristics in Adobe Lightroom.

    Basically, my guy's wrist is aching from clicking, holding and dragging sliders around in Adobe.

    What he wants is a device with three knobs (apparently control sliders comes in groups of three in lightroom) to control these sliders instead of relying on mouse clicks.

    Apparently, the knobs should also be usable for controlling video editing stuff, but he needs that one urgently.

    Gotcha.  That I have zero clue about how to go about that.  Though that would probably be outside the realm of a simple answer unless you know how to go about the programming for that.  My suggestion would be a new thread in the Making Stuff Together section.

    The programming shouldn't be an issue. I just need to know what kind of knobs can get me started :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Fri, 25 July 2014, 04:41:17
    Best way for creating mockup of key layout? Maybe some icon library with different button sizes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 25 July 2014, 04:49:24
    Quote from: Vitaly on Fri, 25 July 2014, 04:41:17
    Best way for creating mockup of key layout? Maybe some icon library with different button sizes?

    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Fri, 25 July 2014, 05:04:32
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 25 July 2014, 04:49:24
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/
    :D Thanks, exactly what I was looking for!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: koalapear on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:27:06
    *Deleted*

    Found the answer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:31:56
    What would you guys recommend to use to lube stabs with? I was thinking of picking up some of the EK grease.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blackbox on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:38:51
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:31:56
    What would you guys recommend to use to lube stabs with? I was thinking of picking up some of the EK grease.

    Krytox lube:

    =lube&s[title]=Y&s[short_desc]=Y&s[full_desc]=Y&s[sku]=Y&s[match]=all&s[cid]=0]http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[search]=lube&s[title]=Y&s[short_desc]=Y&s[full_desc]=Y&s[sku]=Y&s[match]=all&s[cid]=0 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[search)

    Description of the lube and a guide for which lube to buy is in the descrition of the product:

    "There are 3 different mixes: Thin, Thick, and Very Thick. Thick lube is made for tactile switches where as thin lube is made for linear switches. The kits are the perfect fit for all keyboard enthusiasts!"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:39:52
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:31:56
    What would you guys recommend to use to lube stabs with? I was thinking of picking up some of the EK grease.

    For stabilizers, Super Lube or the EK lube is great.

    Only Krytox ever for switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:40:51
    Quote from: koalapear on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:27:06
    *Deleted*

    Found the answer <img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji2.png" />

    Can you repost the question and your found answer so others can learn too? That'd be great :)

    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:31:56
    What would you guys recommend to use to lube stabs with? I was thinking of picking up some of the EK grease.

    EK grease or superlube. I think silicone based grease in general should be ok? But you should poke around and doublecheck.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:39:52
    Only Krytox ever for switches.

    What about that super thick Krytox? The old lube kits come with the thick stuff and thinner Krytox that you mixed together to get a viscosity you liked.


    FWIW Jdcarpe is much smarter than me so I'd defer to his experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:43:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:40:51
    What about that super thick Krytox? The old lube kits come with the thick stuff and thinner Krytox that you mixed together to get a viscosity you liked.

    I was just referring in general to using only Krytox for lubing switches. You definitely want to mix Krytox grease with Krytox oil to get the consistency you prefer for your switches.

    You could use Krytox grease for lubing stabilizers, as I have done a few times in the past. But Krytox is expensive, and there are cheaper alternatives that will work just fine for stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:50:10
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:43:57
    You could use Krytox grease for lubing stabilizers, as I have done a few times in the past. But Krytox is expensive, and there are cheaper alternatives that will work just fine for stabilizers.

    Got it. So we're just ballin' outta control and you're looking out for the common GHer's wallet. I feel I feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: koalapear on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:56:15


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:40:51

    Can you repost the question and your found answer so others can learn too? That'd be great :)


    Sorry! My original question was what are the differences between the KMAC 1 and KMAC 2 since they look identical to me. I found the answer here:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37103.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37103.0)

    Turns out not much difference! :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:57:20
    Quote from: koalapear on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:56:15


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:40:51

    Can you repost the question and your found answer so others can learn too? That'd be great :)


    Sorry! My original question was what are the differences between the KMAC 1 and KMAC 2 since they look identical to me. I found the answer here:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37103.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37103.0)

    Turns out not much difference! :))

    Thanks! Appreciate it. Glad you found your answer ^__^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:02:03
    Quote from: blackbox on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:38:51
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:31:56
    What would you guys recommend to use to lube stabs with? I was thinking of picking up some of the EK grease.

    Krytox lube:

    =lube&s[title]=Y&s[short_desc]=Y&s[full_desc]=Y&s[sku]=Y&s[match]=all&s[cid]=0]http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[search]=lube&s[title]=Y&s[short_desc]=Y&s[full_desc]=Y&s[sku]=Y&s[match]=all&s[cid]=0 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[search)

    Description of the lube and a guide for which lube to buy is in the descrition of the product:

    "There are 3 different mixes: Thin, Thick, and Very Thick. Thick lube is made for tactile switches where as thin lube is made for linear switches. The kits are the perfect fit for all keyboard enthusiasts!"

    Thanks but I'm talking about lubing stabilizers not switches. I have a few packs of the thick GH krytox mix, but would think something with more grease would be good for stabs.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:39:52
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:31:56
    What would you guys recommend to use to lube stabs with? I was thinking of picking up some of the EK grease.

    For stabilizers, Super Lube or the EK lube is great.

    Only Krytox ever for switches.

    Did you mean the EK grease? In reference to mixing your own grease and oil with krytox, I just don't see it would be worth sourcing the stuff vs. just using the EK grease? Not really a matter of cost, more laziness.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:04:49
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:02:03
    Did you mean the EK grease? In reference to mixing your own grease and oil with krytox, I just don't see it would be worth sourcing the stuff vs. just using the EK grease? Not really a matter of cost, more laziness.

    Grease and lube are pretty interchangable in my eyes. Grease is a type of lubricant or lube. So yes, EK grease is probably correct but I shouldn't speak for jdcarpe.

    The mixing I was referring to is that the old kits of the Krytox lube kits came with a thick grease and a thin oil that you mixed together to get your own viscosity. Both were Krytox. I don't think they come like that anymore. Hence the Thin, Thick, and Very Thick options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:06:07
    If I am hand wiring a keyboard, what gauge wire is ideal?  I am guessing something like 26AWG?  Solid core with insulator?

    What is ideal and what do people use in practice?  Thx...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:07:52
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:06:07
    If I am hand wiring a keyboard, what gauge wire is ideal?  I am guessing something like 26AWG?  Solid core with insulator?

    What is ideal and what do people use in practice?  Thx...

    I believe the wire I have at home that I use as jumpers is 24 AWG solid copper core with the rubber outside. Is that the insulator?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:09:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:07:52
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:06:07
    If I am hand wiring a keyboard, what gauge wire is ideal?  I am guessing something like 26AWG?  Solid core with insulator?

    What is ideal and what do people use in practice?  Thx...

    I believe the wire I have at home that I use as jumpers is 24 AWG solid copper core with the rubber outside. Is that the insulator?

    Yes, that is what I meant by insulation.  :)  So you use 24 gauge?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:11:12
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:09:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:07:52
    I believe the wire I have at home that I use as jumpers is 24 AWG solid copper core with the rubber outside. Is that the insulator?

    Yes, that is what I meant by insulation.  :)  So you use 24 gauge?

    I believe so, yes. I'll need to double check when I'm home but that seems right in my head. And I didn't realize that was called insulation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:12:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:04:49
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:02:03
    Did you mean the EK grease? In reference to mixing your own grease and oil with krytox, I just don't see it would be worth sourcing the stuff vs. just using the EK grease? Not really a matter of cost, more laziness.

    Grease and lube are pretty interchangable in my eyes. Grease is a type of lubricant or lube. So yes, EK grease is probably correct but I shouldn't speak for jdcarpe.

    The mixing I was referring to is that the old kits of the Krytox lube kits came with a thick grease and a thin oil that you mixed together to get your own viscosity. Both were Krytox. I don't think they come like that anymore. Hence the Thin, Thick, and Very Thick options.

    Yeah my bad, worded badly. I meant there is a product by EK called 'grease' for stabs, and one that's just called lube which I guess is much thinner for switches. I assume that JD did indeed mean the 'grease'. Thanks again
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:14:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:11:12
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:09:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:07:52
    I believe the wire I have at home that I use as jumpers is 24 AWG solid copper core with the rubber outside. Is that the insulator?

    Yes, that is what I meant by insulation.  :)  So you use 24 gauge?

    I believe so, yes. I'll need to double check when I'm home but that seems right in my head. And I didn't realize that was called insulation.

    I could be wrong about it being called that in the field, that is just what I have always called it because it basically insulates the wire inside.  Let me know when you check.  I will be buying some and I want to invest in the 'right' stuff.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:15:26
    Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:12:46
    I meant there is a product by EK called 'grease' for stabs, and one that's just called lube which I guess is much thinner for switches.

    Right from the EK product description and name (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc):

    Quote
    EK "MechLube" Premium Stabilizer Grease
    2ml premium grease w/curved-tip dispenser
    High-viscosity formula helps prevent stabilizer squeaks and rattles

    I'd say grease is what you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kmynis on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:08:13
    Is there any HHKB like case coming for the GH60?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:33:14
    Quote from: Kmynis on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:08:13
    Is there any HHKB like case coming for the GH60?

    Not that I know of. The_Beast was planning on making one, but he's not very active here anymore, it seems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:06:36
    Quote from: Kmynis on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:08:13
    Is there any HHKB like case coming for the GH60?

    Not especially made for the GH60 but the Duck Viper case should be able to fit it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:12:43
    Where I can get information about keyboard matrices? How to best wiring keys, or maybe poker or similar board for example or some projects with scheme layouts?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:15:09
    Quote from: Vitaly on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:12:43
    Where I can get information about keyboard matrices? How to best wiring keys, or maybe poker or similar board for example or some projects with scheme layouts?

    This guide by Matt3o should give you a nice start! :)
    http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:15:57
    Quote from: Vitaly on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:12:43
    Where I can get information about keyboard matrices? How to best wiring keys, or maybe poker or similar board for example or some projects with scheme layouts?

    I think this is in the OP, but this is a great guide by komar007 on how to wire a matrix

    http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 25 July 2014, 18:07:43
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:06:36
    Quote from: Kmynis on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:08:13
    Is there any HHKB like case coming for the GH60?

    Not especially made for the GH60 but the Duck Viper case should be able to fit it.

    I can't find the reference photo, but I believe it actually won't - IIRC, the Viper case is a tray style and the PCB is actually non-rectangular.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 25 July 2014, 19:23:15
    Quote from: Kmynis on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:08:13
    Is there any HHKB like case coming for the GH60?

    If you didn't already order a PCB, sprit makes an HHKB case for his PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 July 2014, 21:54:20
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 25 July 2014, 19:23:15
    Quote from: Kmynis on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:08:13
    Is there any HHKB like case coming for the GH60?

    If you didn't already order a PCB, sprit makes an HHKB case for his PCB.

    Ugh, acrylic. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 26 July 2014, 04:35:58
    Hopefully this is a quick question.

    What is it that makes vintage blacks feel different to ordinary blacks?  Is it the material that the switch housing is made out of or the slider itself?  I have some that are plate mount that I want to convert to PCB mount but I don't want to ruin the feel (they are definitely smoother than normal blacks at the minute)

    Cheers

    GK
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 26 July 2014, 05:39:19
    Quote from: GeorgeK on Sat, 26 July 2014, 04:35:58
    Hopefully this is a quick question.

    What is it that makes vintage blacks feel different to ordinary blacks?  Is it the material that the switch housing is made out of or the slider itself?  I have some that are plate mount that I want to convert to PCB mount but I don't want to ruin the feel (they are definitely smoother than normal blacks at the minute)

    Cheers

    GK

    IMO the biggest thing is age.  Worn smoothed over stems and upper housings along with slightly lighter (due to age and use) springs. 

    To my understanding the only time the bottom housing touches the stem is at bottom out.  I say convert away and lube while you are at it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 26 July 2014, 05:40:31
    I thought that lubing might negate the point of vintage blacks? 

    I'd definitely be keeping the upper housings, stems and springs so sounds like I'm all good :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 26 July 2014, 08:03:55
    Quote from: GeorgeK on Sat, 26 July 2014, 04:35:58
    What is it that makes vintage blacks feel different to ordinary blacks?  Is it the material that the switch housing is made out of or the slider itself?  I have some that are plate mount that I want to convert to PCB mount but I don't want to ruin the feel (they are definitely smoother than normal blacks at the minute)

    I'm actually pretty sure that the lower housing or rather its leaf spring is part of the smoothness as well. Still, the stems should be the biggest factor and I would use the old housing tops just for the bigger logo :D
    The springs are not part of the smoothness and I personally would use new ones as the old ones tend to be a bit inconsistent because of usage.
    Oh and nobody really know why they're smoother. I think different molds or materials were used.
    Lubing them won't make them worse so might as well do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sat, 26 July 2014, 13:17:16
    DIY: Is BlueTooth module should work as wireless HID device or it's preference only of controller and BT module may be any? Which module you can recommend for teensy/arduino microcontroller (bluetooth hid)?

    Some solutions that I found:
    a) hc-5 module  - http://goo.gl/v5j1Mz (ebay) - here is a possibility that you can update the firmware to work as hid (??)
    b) BlueSMiRF HID - http://goo.gl/V65xTG (sparkfun) - expensive
    c) CC2540 by TI - http://www.ti.com/product/cc2540 , http://goo.gl/VFko9F (aliexpress) - looks most interesting I think

    May be anybody have some experience with BT HID?
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: awong on Sat, 26 July 2014, 15:57:09
    Is there guide to modify Model F AT to regular ANSI?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 222lu222 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 16:38:15
    Maybe you guys can help me with this problem ive been trying to solve!

    I bought a new Lenovo y510p with Windows 8.1  As a gamer, I often map keys and sometimes hold them down continuously.

    On my new laptop, when I hold down Shift, Ctrl or Alt they will not repeat.  They need to be pressed multiple times to repeat an action.  This makes it much more difficult for how I use these keys.

    I have tried to disable all sticky and filter actions, as well as max increase rates.  At this time, no other keys seem to do this...all other A~Z and 0~9 keys repeat flawlessly.

    Is this maybe a Windows registry setting?  I have an older Hp laptop with Windows 7 Professional x64 and it doesn't have this issue.

    I know this may seem a silly issue, just remap to different keys, but if there is a possible fix action I'd really like to hear it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 26 July 2014, 20:56:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:11:12
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:09:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:07:52
    I believe the wire I have at home that I use as jumpers is 24 AWG solid copper core with the rubber outside. Is that the insulator?

    Yes, that is what I meant by insulation.  :)  So you use 24 gauge?

    I believe so, yes. I'll need to double check when I'm home but that seems right in my head. And I didn't realize that was called insulation.

    If you have a chance to check the gauge of the wire you used for hand wiring, I would appreciate it.  :)  Anyone else have experience with hand wiring?  What gauge wire did you use?  Hints?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 26 July 2014, 21:02:50
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 26 July 2014, 20:56:52
    If you have a chance to check the gauge of the wire you used for hand wiring, I would appreciate it.  :)

    24 gauge wire. It's sitting in front of me now.

    Quote from: 222lu222 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 16:38:15
    Maybe you guys can help me with this problem ive been trying to solve!

    I bought a new Lenovo y510p with Windows 8.1  As a gamer, I often map keys and sometimes hold them down continuously.

    On my new laptop, when I hold down Shift, Ctrl or Alt they will not repeat.  They need to be pressed multiple times to repeat an action.  This makes it much more difficult for how I use these keys.

    I have tried to disable all sticky and filter actions, as well as max increase rates.  At this time, no other keys seem to do this...all other A~Z and 0~9 keys repeat flawlessly.

    Is this maybe a Windows registry setting?  I have an older Hp laptop with Windows 7 Professional x64 and it doesn't have this issue.

    I know this may seem a silly issue, just remap to different keys, but if there is a possible fix action I'd really like to hear it.

    Please repost this elsewhere such as the "Other Geeky Stuff" subforum. You probably won't get an answer as this thread is keyboard related. I personally have no idea. I've never heard of Shift, Ctrl, or Alt repeating themselves like that.

    Quote from: awong on Sat, 26 July 2014, 15:57:09
    Is there guide to modify Model F AT to regular ANSI?

    YakMN has a thread on this topic (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48288.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 26 July 2014, 21:10:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 26 July 2014, 21:02:50
    Quote from: swill on Sat, 26 July 2014, 20:56:52
    If you have a chance to check the gauge of the wire you used for hand wiring, I would appreciate it.  :)

    24 gauge wire. It's sitting in front of me now.

    Sweet, thanks for the info.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 22:46:05
    So. Lets talk ergo-clears. At keycon I got to try Hoffman's board and I have to say I really liked how they felt. Unfortunately he does not remember what weight they were. He also had some very heavy springs in the arrow keys which almost felt linear. I don't want it to feel like the heavy "linear" clear switches, and I heard that the lighter the spring is the more pronounced the bump will be. However, if you make it too light then the switch can have issues returning back to it's resting state (I think I'v heard 62g thrown around).

    Unfortunately browns feel way too light to me, so I would want them to be heavier than that. However, 45g topre feels fine to me. So maybe the bigger bump and slightly heavier spring will be fine. I see the sprit group by is open. So, what do you guys think would be the perfect weight for me? It would be a pain to desolder all the switches, mod them, and resolder everything and not be happy. Maybe I should invest in a modded plate :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 26 July 2014, 22:51:03
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 22:46:05
    So. Lets talk ergo-clears. At keycon I got to try Hoffman's board and I have to say I really liked how they felt. Unfortunately he does not remember what weight they were. He also had some very heavy springs in the arrow keys which almost felt linear. I don't want it to feel like the heavy "linear" clear switches, and I heard that the lighter the spring is the more pronounced the bump will be. However, if you make it too light then the switch can have issues returning back to it's resting state (I think I'v heard 62g thrown around).

    Unfortunately browns feel way too light to me, so I would want them to be heavier than that. However, 45g topre feels fine to me. So maybe the bigger bump and slightly heavier spring will be fine. I see the sprit group by is open. So, what do you guys think would be the perfect weight for me? It would be a pain to desolder all the switches, mod them, and resolder everything and not be happy. Maybe I should invest in a modded plate :P

    In my experience 62-65g lubed is the lightest you can go and not have any issues with return.  Personally, 65g is the lightest I'll go and I prefer 67-68g, but I haven't tried heavier.

    Everyone has a different opinion about spring weights though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sat, 26 July 2014, 22:52:55
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 22:46:05
    So. Lets talk ergo-clears. At keycon I got to try Hoffman's board and I have to say I really liked how they felt. Unfortunately he does not remember what weight they were. He also had some very heavy springs in the arrow keys which almost felt linear. I don't want it to feel like the heavy "linear" clear switches, and I heard that the lighter the spring is the more pronounced the bump will be. However, if you make it too light then the switch can have issues returning back to it's resting state (I think I'v heard 62g thrown around).

    Unfortunately browns feel way too light to me, so I would want them to be heavier than that. However, 45g topre feels fine to me. So maybe the bigger bump and slightly heavier spring will be fine. I see the sprit group by is open. So, what do you guys think would be the perfect weight for me? It would be a pain to desolder all the switches, mod them, and resolder everything and not be happy. Maybe I should invest in a modded plate :P

    I think Hoffman had actual linear (MX Black) switches in his arrow keys and escape for some game I can't recall the name of. I find that 68g-70g are good for me but you feel the tactility more with the lighter springs. The true GeekHack answer is to get 62g and 68g springs and make a few switches before you decide. Alternatively I think sprit has 65g springs and you could split the difference. Ultimately the range there is so tight that you'll adjust pretty well to any of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 22:58:49
    Thanks nubbs. Unfortunately testing a single switch with different weights really doesn't tell you how a whole keyboard will feel. So there is little way to test it out without doing the whole mod. Yes everyone has a different opinion on switches, I just hoped that maybe people could have some input on the spring weights vs. my brown/topre experiences, and hopefully help me narrow down a weight range. I think that even with the 62g springs it will still be harder to actuate then browns because of the bigger bump in the stem, although I am not sure (can anyone comment on that?). I know that topre are also "45g" but they don't feel as light to me as the browns.

    Edit: thanks for the comment nuclearsandwich. That helps some. I think I will probably pick up a bag of 65g and maybe a sample pack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 26 July 2014, 23:56:02
    Wait!  Smasher, you are talking about my custom 70% layered board, while nuclearsandwich is referring to my LZ-GH.   :thumb:

    Custom 70% has some sort of modded and lubed clears, and some heavier clears on the arrows + esc.
    LZ-GH has blues, with blacks on arrows + esc.

    I am still not sure what springs are in those clears, but I will take apart the leftovers from that batch and swap in various weights of springs from sprit's last group buy, to hopefully find a close weight to go with, Smasher.  I'll go do this quick right now and report back.

    PS, that game is TrackMania.   ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 26 July 2014, 23:58:35
    I'm pretty sure they are 62g springs, with probably 67g on the arrows and Esc. At least that's what they felt like to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:01:29
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 26 July 2014, 23:56:02
    I am still not sure what springs are in those clears, but I will take apart the leftovers from that batch and swap in various weights of springs from sprit's last group buy, to hopefully find a close weight to go with, Smasher.  I'll go do this quick right now and report back.

    Thanks man. I appreciate it. :cool:

    So jd, 5g is enough to create that big of a difference in feel? Some were fairly light with a nice bump, the others were noticeably heavier and almost felt linear. If that really is the case I might have to rethink the 65g since I don't want my whole board like the (67g?) arrows.

    To be clear. I don't mind the weight of my stock clears as is. I just hope to bring out the tactile bump even more, without making the switches too light. Heavy "korean" springs seemed to do the opposite of that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:09:23
    I have a WFD SS plate already installed in a Filco. 

    If I wanted to swap out the stabs for Cherry plate mounts is that possible with the plate already attached to the PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:20:58
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:09:23
    I have a WFD SS plate already installed in a Filco. 

    If I wanted to swap out the stabs for Cherry plate mounts is that possible with the plate already attached to the PCB?

    The one switch needs to be desoldered :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:24:27
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:01:29
    5g is enough to create that big of a difference in feel?

    I would say so. I can tell the difference between 62g, 65g, and 67g now. It's kinda scary to be honest.

    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:01:29
    To be clear. I don't mind the weight of my stock clears as is. I just hope to bring out the tactile bump even more, without making the switches too light.

    Hm....I've actually never thought about that. I don't think the springs change how that bump feels. In all honesty, I think the stock Clears have the most noticeable bump. You could look into Panda Clears though. I think that's a good compromise if you like something on the heavier side bump still preserve the big tactile bump. Panda Clear = MX Black Spring + MX Clear Stem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:56:17
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:20:58
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:09:23
    I have a WFD SS plate already installed in a Filco. 

    If I wanted to swap out the stabs for Cherry plate mounts is that possible with the plate already attached to the PCB?

    The one switch needs to be desoldered :(.

    Thanks Dreamre  :)

    Which switch is that by the way?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 27 July 2014, 01:53:14
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:01:29
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 26 July 2014, 23:56:02
    I am still not sure what springs are in those clears, but I will take apart the leftovers from that batch and swap in various weights of springs from sprit's last group buy, to hopefully find a close weight to go with, Smasher.  I'll go do this quick right now and report back.

    Thanks man. I appreciate it. :cool:

    So jd, 5g is enough to create that big of a difference in feel? Some were fairly light with a nice bump, the others were noticeably heavier and almost felt linear. If that really is the case I might have to rethink the 65g since I don't want my whole board like the (67g?) arrows.

    To be clear. I don't mind the weight of my stock clears as is. I just hope to bring out the tactile bump even more, without making the switches too light. Heavy "korean" springs seemed to do the opposite of that.

    Okay, here are my findings.  First, I only have 50g, 62g, 75, and 120g springs from sprit's R1 GB.  I thought I had more, but apparently not.  xD  Comments on the various combinations are as follows:

    50g: Noticeably lighter than stock and the ones in my custom.  Did not perform well.  It's fairly well documented that below a certain point the spring lacks the force required to rebound, and this is below that point.
    62g: This felt *very* close to the switches you liked in my custom, but did feel ever so slightly lighter.
    Stock (65g, possibly a different scale): These felt slightly heavier than the switches you liked in my custom, but not by much.  Still rather enjoyable, and I think you would like these just fine.
    75g: These felt very similar to stock, which surprises me.  Maybe the difference between Korean and Cherry spring weights is that big?

    I didn't even try the 120g.

    In summary, I think you would really like either 62g sprit springs or stock.  I think you would notice a slight difference when directly compared, but on their own you might not notice.  I think I was wrong about the switches being lubed.  I think the ones you liked are not lubed (or at least not lubed excessively), and the ones you do not like are lubed (or lubed more).  I think they are possibly a bit heavier, but not by much - I think the major factor is the lubedness.

    I'd be happy to try other options and explore further, but that should be a good starting point.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:20:53
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 26 July 2014, 23:56:02
    Wait!  Smasher, you are talking about my custom 70% layered board, while nuclearsandwich is referring to my LZ-GH.   :thumb:

    Custom 70% has some sort of modded and lubed clears, and some heavier clears on the arrows + esc.
    LZ-GH has blues, with blacks on arrows + esc.

    I am still not sure what springs are in those clears, but I will take apart the leftovers from that batch and swap in various weights of springs from sprit's last group buy, to hopefully find a close weight to go with, Smasher.  I'll go do this quick right now and report back.

    PS, that game is TrackMania.   ;)

    Whoops. I don't even think I typed on a 70% of yours, but clearly I must have in addition to the LZ... So many keyboards over that weekend. Ay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 27 July 2014, 16:44:12
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:56:17
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:20:58
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sun, 27 July 2014, 00:09:23
    I have a WFD SS plate already installed in a Filco. 

    If I wanted to swap out the stabs for Cherry plate mounts is that possible with the plate already attached to the PCB?

    The one switch needs to be desoldered :(.

    Thanks Dreamre  :)

    Which switch is that by the way?

    The switch that is inbetween the stabilizer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: awong on Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:09:20
    Is GH60 Open Source? Can I have a shop make me a PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:15:52
    Quote from: awong on Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:09:20
    Is GH60 Open Source? Can I have a shop make me a PCB?

    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:30:25
    Quote from: awong on Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:09:20
    Is GH60 Open Source? Can I have a shop make me a PCB?

    Be aware though that the latest version, the one that people from the GB will be getting (Rev. C), is not public yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Barracuda on Sun, 27 July 2014, 18:50:19
    Hi GH :thumb:, as I'm awaiting my white poker 2, I was wondering if there are any black stock poker 2 cases that I can get my hands on. Does anyone know how to get them? (I live in the Netherlands)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 27 July 2014, 18:56:57
    Quote from: Barracuda on Sun, 27 July 2014, 18:50:19
    Hi GH :thumb:, as I'm awaiting my white poker 2, I was wondering if there are any black stock poker 2 cases that I can get my hands on. Does anyone know how to get them? (I live in the Netherlands)

    You can't normally buy the stock poker cases but somebody might have one if you ask in the classifieds (as soon as you fulfill the requirements).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 27 July 2014, 19:25:57
    Quote from: Barracuda on Sun, 27 July 2014, 18:50:19
    Hi GH :thumb:, as I'm awaiting my white poker 2, I was wondering if there are any black stock poker 2 cases that I can get my hands on. Does anyone know how to get them? (I live in the Netherlands)

    I would recommend asking in this thread. I am sure some of those people will have an extra stock poker case.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.msg1020610.msg#1020610
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Sun, 27 July 2014, 19:45:46
    Quote from: Vitaly on Sat, 26 July 2014, 13:17:16
    DIY: Is BlueTooth module should work as wireless HID device or it's preference only of controller and BT module may be any? Which module you can recommend for teensy/arduino microcontroller (bluetooth hid)?

    Some solutions that I found:
    a) hc-5 module  - http://goo.gl/v5j1Mz (ebay) - here is a possibility that you can update the firmware to work as hid (??)
    b) BlueSMiRF HID - http://goo.gl/V65xTG (sparkfun) - expensive
    c) CC2540 by TI - http://www.ti.com/product/cc2540 , http://goo.gl/VFko9F (aliexpress) - looks most interesting I think

    May be anybody have some experience with BT HID?
     

    1) In theory it may be possible but no practically. You need expensive CSR tooling and have to write firmware for HID yourself.
    2) if this is expensive, you will have to give up HID stack and write it yourself.
    3) BLE is intringuing but I have no experience of it. You will need to implement HOGP yourself.

    I have used Roving RN-42 and Bluegiga WT12, both worked well enough for my keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Mon, 28 July 2014, 02:37:56
    Quote from: hasu on Sun, 27 July 2014, 19:45:46
    Quote from: Vitaly on Sat, 26 July 2014, 13:17:16
    DIY: Is BlueTooth module should work as wireless HID device or it's preference only of controller and BT module may be any? Which module you can recommend for teensy/arduino microcontroller (bluetooth hid)?

    Some solutions that I found:
    a) hc-5 module  - http://goo.gl/v5j1Mz (ebay) - here is a possibility that you can update the firmware to work as hid (??)
    b) BlueSMiRF HID - http://goo.gl/V65xTG (sparkfun) - expensive
    c) CC2540 by TI - http://www.ti.com/product/cc2540 , http://goo.gl/VFko9F (aliexpress) - looks most interesting I think

    May be anybody have some experience with BT HID?
     

    1) In theory it may be possible but no practically. You need expensive CSR tooling and have to write firmware for HID yourself.
    2) if this is expensive, you will have to give up HID stack and write it yourself.
    3) BLE is intringuing but I have no experience of it. You will need to implement HOGP yourself.

    I have used Roving RN-42 and Bluegiga WT12, both worked well enough for my keyboard.
    2) You bought SMD Module RN-42-HID ($19 only module) or BlueSMiRF ($45 with pcb board)?
    3) I found bluegiga WT12 module for reasonable price,  do you have useful links about usage? You bought only module and create UART Breakout Board by yourself?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Mon, 28 July 2014, 03:19:52
    2) I bought RN-42-EK first for easy start-up of development, I'll buy bare module next time 'cause I designed my PCB for it.
    3) Bought breakout one from: http://www.inmojo.com/store/jeff-rowberg/item/wt12-bluetooth-breakout-board/
    Bluegiga support site is the best resource, unfortunately you cannot find much info except for there.

    I recommend RN-42 because it is easier to interface than WT12, but Bluegiga iWRAP is more fexible and fertile. If you need fine grained control of Bluetooth try WT12.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: skuko on Mon, 28 July 2014, 13:32:11
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:22:35
    Quote from: skuko on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:16:28
    since i didn't find any relevant forum for this, i will just ask here:

    what is your experience with originative please? (if any)

    i have ordered a GMK orange on charcoal from them on the 17th July (i think) and received a "shipping" mail from them on the 18th, but USPS only states that they received electronic shipping info and it does not necessarily mean that the item was indeed shipped. i have requested more info on this from originative, but only received a generic reply with the same tracking number that i already had.

    i'm starting to doubt that they even have it in stock, even though it was not marked as sold out. i have ordered it assuming that the wares would be readily available.

    just wanted to ask about their practices (should probably have done so before ordering), because something stinks here. i will not hesitate with a chargeback if i don't receive a satisfying answer from them within a reasonable timeframe.

    Originative Vendor Review, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57652.0

    so i'd like to update....

    today, i received my first ever GMK made set from originative, the orange on charcoal...i must say it is freaking awesome :thumb:
    [attach=1]

    as for Originative, i i don't have anything, but praise for them. this was my first experience and even though i was weary of their past, i must say that Sheraton has answered my mails with a day and in a satisfactory manner.

    delivery wasn't trackable, but the package arrived in 10 days from the US to Slovakia, which i find pretty fast.

    all in all, a pleasant experience with originative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Mon, 28 July 2014, 13:35:42
    Quote from: hasu on Mon, 28 July 2014, 03:19:52
    2) I bought RN-42-EK first for easy start-up of development, I'll buy bare module next time 'cause I designed my PCB for it.
    3) Bought breakout one from: http://www.inmojo.com/store/jeff-rowberg/item/wt12-bluetooth-breakout-board/
    Bluegiga support site is the best resource, unfortunately you cannot find much info except for there.

    I recommend RN-42 because it is easier to interface than WT12, but Bluegiga iWRAP is more fexible and fertile. If you need fine grained control of Bluetooth try WT12.

    Your answer very helpful. Read docs about this modules at their websites and realized that's what I need. RN-42-EK good starting point, a bit expensive ($58 from mouser with shipping to my country), but I want to get one.  I had luck to get WT12 bare module for $11 on ebay, reference design also available at bluegiga website (good support!). I will start with this devices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Barracuda on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:16:12
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 27 July 2014, 18:56:57
    Quote from: Barracuda on Sun, 27 July 2014, 18:50:19
    Hi GH :thumb:, as I'm awaiting my white poker 2, I was wondering if there are any black stock poker 2 cases that I can get my hands on. Does anyone know how to get them? (I live in the Netherlands)

    You can't normally buy the stock poker cases but somebody might have one if you ask in the classifieds (as soon as you fulfill the requirements).

    What requirements are you talking about? The classifieds faq doesn't mention any requirements.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:18:40
    Quote from: Barracuda on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:16:12
    The classifieds faq doesn't mention any requirements.

    From the Classifieds Rule sticky at the top of the sub-forum: (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56284.msg1270020#msg1270020)

    Quote from: Moderation Team on Mon, 24 March 2014, 14:39:32
    Creating sale / trade threads in the Classifieds subforum is limited to Geekhack.org users who have been members of the forum for at least 2 months and have 25 or higher post count

    It's also in the new member's sub-forum and sticky thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33429.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:43:16
    Any PBT keycap sets besides GMK and Granite (Preferably purchasable outside of the classifieds). I really want to get rid of the stock caps on my wasd and the PBT caps on my HHKB have spoiled me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:51:32
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:43:16
    Any PBT keycap sets besides GMK and Granite (Preferably purchasable outside of the classifieds). I really want to get rid of the stock caps on my wasd and the PBT caps on my HHKB have spoiled me.

    GMK doesn't actually do PBT as far as I know, but a decent option would be the Vortex double shot PBT sets.  Otherwise there is the occasional GB that will feature them, and SP sells sets (DSA is common from them), and I'm sure there are a ton of other sites that I'm missing.  Any reason you're avoiding the classifieds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:53:04
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:43:16
    Any PBT keycap sets besides GMK and Granite (Preferably purchasable outside of the classifieds). I really want to get rid of the stock caps on my wasd and the PBT caps on my HHKB have spoiled me.

    Could try your luck with Originative and their BSP sets. Or try and hunt down vintage Cherry boards with PBT caps on eBay if you're not into the Classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:58:50
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:43:16
    Any PBT keycap sets besides GMK and Granite (Preferably purchasable outside of the classifieds). I really want to get rid of the stock caps on my wasd and the PBT caps on my HHKB have spoiled me.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59780.0

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/category&path=62
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 28 July 2014, 15:47:48
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:43:16
    Any PBT keycap sets besides GMK and Granite (Preferably purchasable outside of the classifieds). I really want to get rid of the stock caps on my wasd and the PBT caps on my HHKB have spoiled me.

    Since no one mentioned it, mechanicalkeyboards.com usually has spme.Ducky PBT and I believe Qtan has Keycool or KBC PBT.  Banggood has some cheap Keycool PBT and you can usually find some on eBay, be it Keycool, Imsto, or Leopold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: b7ad on Mon, 28 July 2014, 17:17:23
    Does anyone know what the numbers on LZ special edition boards relate to? I haven't been able to find any info on it anywhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 28 July 2014, 17:20:25
    Quote from: b7ad on Mon, 28 July 2014, 17:17:23
    Does anyone know what the numbers on LZ special edition boards relate to? I haven't been able to find any info on it anywhere.
    All the ones made were numbered individually. They just show the order in which they were made.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Mon, 28 July 2014, 21:02:41
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:51:32
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Mon, 28 July 2014, 14:43:16
    Any PBT keycap sets besides GMK and Granite (Preferably purchasable outside of the classifieds). I really want to get rid of the stock caps on my wasd and the PBT caps on my HHKB have spoiled me.

    GMK doesn't actually do PBT as far as I know, but a decent option would be the Vortex double shot PBT sets.  Otherwise there is the occasional GB that will feature them, and SP sells sets (DSA is common from them), and I'm sure there are a ton of other sites that I'm missing.  Any reason you're avoiding the classifieds?

    Ahh sorry I meant BSP. Lots of acronyms floating around here. I don't mind the classifieds I just don't have a lot of time to follow every thread and you never know if anything will turn up. That is why I was curious about sets that I could purchase right now :)

    I figured my blank HHKB could satisfy my "otaku" desire and the cherry board could then have some of the more exotic keycap sets out there. It's a shame there aren't more PBT sets readily available. Thank you for all the suggestions guys. These grey and blue set looks pretty nice - http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=865

    If I were to go to with white which is the best (anyone have any experience with these)? I am not sure if I am ready to jump ship to DSA yet, so the SP one might be out...
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=858
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/104-PBT-white-Blank-keycaps-Keyboard-Filco-Cherry-/301110459090?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461b94fad2
    http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-blank-sets-1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 28 July 2014, 21:21:31
    it is usually cheaper to buy from qtan's store rather than this eBay
    http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/category/cateogry1-name/catId=3982960

    I've tried some PBT keycaps. They differ greatly in feel (the feel is mainly due to the mould it's cast in rather than the material itself.)

    I really like Imso PBT, but it's a lot more smooth than others.
    SP's thin PBT is also quite nice. If the profile weren't so... stabby, I'd probably have more. Maybe some blank dsa from them..?
    the PBT on my pokerII was unimpressive

    My favourite is probably the second (?) generation of IBM PBT, but that's not widely available for cherry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Mon, 28 July 2014, 22:46:14
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 28 July 2014, 21:21:31
    it is usually cheaper to buy from qtan's store rather than this eBay
    http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/category/cateogry1-name/catId=3982960

    I've tried some PBT keycaps. They differ greatly in feel (the feel is mainly due to the mould it's cast in rather than the material itself.)

    I really like Imso PBT, but it's a lot more smooth than others.
    SP's thin PBT is also quite nice. If the profile weren't so... stabby, I'd probably have more. Maybe some blank dsa from them..?
    the PBT on my pokerII was unimpressive

    My favourite is probably the second (?) generation of IBM PBT, but that's not widely available for cherry.

    I like my IMSTO PBT caps.  They were on my daily driver for the last 2 years till my Penumbra set replaced them.  I have only good things to say about those PBT caps.  I haven't tried many others.  The Banggood PBT caps were ok.  The legends sucked, but the material and thickness was pretty reasonable with a medium thickness.  Oh and they were OEM profile which I have to admit is not my favorite profile.  I got the Granite PBT dye sub caps from SP recently.  They feel pretty good and the design is awesome, but I have to admit that I have not been very impressed by the quality of the SP caps I have owned (other than their SA profile caps, which are excellant). 

    Anyway, my 0.02$...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:41:44
    what do sip sockets do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:47:05
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:41:44
    what do sip sockets do?

    If you add them to your switches, then you don't need to solder in LEDs. You just need to insert the LEDs into the SIP Sockets. More information can be found here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:55:13
    I remember someone working on a replacement controller for Model M's or M13's. Where can I find it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:58:07
    Quote from: JaccoW on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:55:13
    I remember someone working on a replacement controller for Model M's or M13's. Where can I find it?

    This is the only one I can think of right now, though it's very old (and bluetooth)
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19104.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 July 2014, 11:06:46
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:58:07
    Quote from: JaccoW on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:55:13
    I remember someone working on a replacement controller for Model M's or M13's. Where can I find it?

    This is the only one I can think of right now, though it's very old (and bluetooth)
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19104.0

    In addition to dorkvader's post, I also found these threads:

    bcg's project (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58015.0)
    phosphorglow's Teensy'd Model M (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/model-m-matrix-teensy-t8149.html)

    IIRC, you can just add a Teensy to a Model M.

    There is also the DPH controller and xwhatsit's controller for Model Fs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 29 July 2014, 11:35:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 July 2014, 11:06:46
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:58:07
    Quote from: JaccoW on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:55:13
    I remember someone working on a replacement controller for Model M's or M13's. Where can I find it?

    This is the only one I can think of right now, though it's very old (and bluetooth)
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19104.0

    In addition to dorkvader's post, I also found these threads:

    bcg's project (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58015.0)
    phosphorglow's Teensy'd Model M (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/model-m-matrix-teensy-t8149.html)

    IIRC, you can just add a Teensy to a Model M.

    There is also the DPH controller and xwhatsit's controller for Model Fs.
    Hmmm, interesting. That'll give me some reading material. Thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ren9999 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 01:38:57
    is there anything like this Scorpius 32 (http://www.amazon.com/Scorpius-32-Keypad-Professional-Numeric/dp/B0016PB994/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1406687210&sr=1-1&keywords=scorpius-32) that uses a usb connection instead of an AT or PS/2? (need it for a netbook, ill be a passenger on a 2 day road trip, dont have room for a full keyboard, but still need the numeric keypad and arrow keys)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 30 July 2014, 01:44:44
    Quote from: ren9999 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 01:38:57
    is there anything like this Scorpius 32 (http://www.amazon.com/Scorpius-32-Keypad-Professional-Numeric/dp/B0016PB994/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1406687210&sr=1-1&keywords=scorpius-32) that uses a usb connection instead of an AT or PS/2? (need it for a netbook, ill be a passenger on a 2 day road trip, dont have room for a full keyboard, but still need the numeric keypad and arrow keys)


    there's DIY. I believe metalliqaz made one. bulding half an ergodox is actually quite cheap.

    When I'm on the road, I use the arrowcluster on the tenkey a lot, I'm not sure if that's possible with your specific use-case, but let me tell you: numberlock is probably the most pressed key on that thing.

    There is also the option of getting a PS/2 to USB adapter for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ren9999 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 02:02:21
    Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 30 July 2014, 01:44:44
    Quote from: ren9999 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 01:38:57
    -snip-

    there's DIY. I believe metalliqaz made one. bulding half an ergodox is actually quite cheap.

    When I'm on the road, I use the arrowcluster on the tenkey a lot, I'm not sure if that's possible with your specific use-case, but let me tell you: numberlock is probably the most pressed key on that thing.

    There is also the option of getting a PS/2 to USB adapter for it.

    very true, id gladly build one if i weren't in a time crunch, its almost 2 am on wed and we leave saturday morining., pretty much leaves me to ordering something and getting 1 day shipping

    as to a ps/2 to usb adapter, i have one exactly like this (http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY%C2%AE-USB-PS-2-Adapter/dp/B00007AP2O/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1406703191&sr=1-1&keywords=ps+2+to+usb+adapter), that has one for a keyboard, and one for a mouse, ill be using the mouse connector for my corded Logitech TrackMan (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-TrackMan-Marble-Wheel-Mac/dp/B00004L8IG/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1406703293&sr=1-7&keywords=Trackman+thumb+ball)

    if that setup would still work and still allow me to use the rest of the actual keyboard on the netbook, then my only question is if there is a cheaper alternative to the scorpius while retaining the arrow keys?
    Netbook OS: Win XP


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Wed, 30 July 2014, 03:21:25
    1) does the white version of the poker 2 come with thick pbt rgb mods?

    2) does the new batches of pokers have the "enjoy your feeling" printed on the spacebar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 July 2014, 05:46:24
    Quote from: ren9999 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 02:02:21
    my only question is if there is a cheaper alternative to the scorpius while retaining the arrow keys?
    Netbook OS: Win XP

    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=141232227196&alt=web

    The only thing I could think of is this but I'm not sure what connection it uses nor do I think they have 1 day shipping. Maybe you could buy a numpad like the Filco or Leopold or Keycool one and reprogram it?


    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 30 July 2014, 03:21:25
    1) does the white version of the poker 2 come with thick pbt rgb mods?

    2) does the new batches of pokers have the "enjoy your feeling" printed on the spacebar?

    Using the following link as a guide:
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=924

    1) yes
    2) no
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: caesar on Wed, 30 July 2014, 16:16:46
    What is the best tenkeyless keyboard for the price 100-200$?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 July 2014, 16:21:50
    Quote from: caesar on Wed, 30 July 2014, 16:16:46
    What is the best tenkeyless keyboard for the price 100-200$?

    There is no "best" keyboard for any price range. If there was, we'd have the same keyboard.

    I will suggest that you look into a Ducky Shine 3 and Filco Majestouch. I am also quite happy with my Leopold FC700R. People have also really been enjoying the KUL87 from EliteKeyboards. And I think the CoolerMaster QuickFireRapid has been the go to recommendation for a solid, cheap keyboard for a while.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: caesar on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:46:11
    Ty, but i want to make a perfect choice.
    What is the difference between Ducky DK9087G2 Pro TKl & Ducky DK9087 shine3?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:47:53
    Quote from: caesar on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:46:11
    Ty, but i want to make a perfect choice.

    You can't do that until you experience a board firsthand.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 July 2014, 21:11:22
    Quote from: caesar on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:46:11
    Ty, but i want to make a perfect choice.
    What is the difference between Ducky DK9087G2 Pro TKl & Ducky DK9087 shine3?

    There is no perfect choice. I've been searching for 2 years and there isn't one to be found. There no such thing as a perfect board or a best board. Asking here or anywhere else will not yield an answer for the "best TKL keyboard". There is only boards that you will like and will fit your uses.

    I think the difference between those two Duckys is the lighting modes on the LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:04:41
    Quote from: caesar on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:46:11
    What is the difference between Ducky DK9087G2 Pro TKl & Ducky DK9087 shine3?

    I have a Ducky DK9087 G2 Pro, and it only has backlighting under the WASD cluster, and the lock keys.

    So from what I can see, the difference between the two is backlighting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: caesar on Thu, 31 July 2014, 03:28:15
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:04:41
    Quote from: caesar on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:46:11
    What is the difference between Ducky DK9087G2 Pro TKl & Ducky DK9087 shine3?

    I have a Ducky DK9087 G2 Pro, and it only has backlighting under the WASD cluster, and the lock keys.

    So from what I can see, the difference between the two is backlighting.

    Does G2 pro have PBT keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 31 July 2014, 03:48:25
    Quote from: caesar on Thu, 31 July 2014, 03:28:15
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:04:41
    Quote from: caesar on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:46:11
    What is the difference between Ducky DK9087G2 Pro TKl & Ducky DK9087 shine3?

    I have a Ducky DK9087 G2 Pro, and it only has backlighting under the WASD cluster, and the lock keys.

    So from what I can see, the difference between the two is backlighting.

    Does G2 pro have PBT keycaps?

    The one that I got didn't come with PBT caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 05:01:34
    Quote from: caesar on Thu, 31 July 2014, 03:28:15
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:04:41
    Quote from: caesar on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:46:11
    What is the difference between Ducky DK9087G2 Pro TKl & Ducky DK9087 shine3?

    I have a Ducky DK9087 G2 Pro, and it only has backlighting under the WASD cluster, and the lock keys.

    So from what I can see, the difference between the two is backlighting.

    Does G2 pro have PBT keycaps?

    Some do, some don't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cphead on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:22:30
    I have a board where one section of the LEDs are always lit on max brightness, even when I turn the rest off. Any ideas on causes + fixes for this issue?  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:26:47
    Quote from: cphead on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:22:30
    I have a board where one section of the LEDs are always lit on max brightness, even when I turn the rest off. Any ideas on causes + fixes for this issue?  :)

    What board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gatorjon on Thu, 31 July 2014, 21:04:36
    Are the stock "brilliant white" keycaps on a Unicomp Ultra Classic ABS or PBT? Dyesub?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 July 2014, 21:15:29
    Quote from: gatorjon on Thu, 31 July 2014, 21:04:36
    Are the stock "brilliant white" keycaps on a Unicomp Ultra Classic ABS or PBT? Dyesub?

    PBT Dyesub.

    Quote from: cphead on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:22:30
    I have a board where one section of the LEDs are always lit on max brightness, even when I turn the rest off. Any ideas on causes + fixes for this issue?  :)

    An idea? Maybe there's a cold joint on your controller? A picture would help and as ray said, a model name would help too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 31 July 2014, 23:08:16
    Does anyone have a link to pictures of the stabilizers Matias uses?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Fri, 01 August 2014, 01:50:26
    How to reduce noise of costar stabilizers? Stabilizer insert and spring make noise when bumping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 August 2014, 01:54:01

    Quote from: Vitaly on Fri, 01 August 2014, 01:50:26
    How to reduce noise of costar stabilizers? Stabilizer insert and spring make noise when bumping.

    Why, grease, of course. :)

    White lithium grease specifically. Applied where the metal bar meets the plastic clip.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Fri, 01 August 2014, 02:09:31
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 August 2014, 01:54:01

    Quote from: Vitaly on Fri, 01 August 2014, 01:50:26
    How to reduce noise of costar stabilizers? Stabilizer insert and spring make noise when bumping.

    Why, grease, of course. :)

    White lithium grease specifically. Applied where the metal bar meets the plastic clip.
    Thanks. I'll try to buy after work. This noise is annoying. Can I use silicone or graphite grease instead lithium?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 01 August 2014, 11:52:37
    Does anyone know where I can find some used G80/G81? thick dyesubs for my KMAC? Not sure where I should be looking or what I should search.

    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 01 August 2014, 11:55:29
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 01 August 2014, 11:52:37
    Does anyone know where I can find some used G80/G81? thick dyesubs for my KMAC? Not sure where I should be looking or what I should search.

    Thanks in advance!

    While I can't give you specifics I can say you will be hunting for 2 or 3 different boards to get all the proper caps that you need.  With the space bar being the most difficult to procure iirc.

    Edit:  You might have some luck checking the deskthority wiki.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:06:02
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 01 August 2014, 11:52:37
    Does anyone know where I can find some used G80/G81? thick dyesubs for my KMAC? Not sure where I should be looking or what I should search.

    If you're looking for ANSI layout, good luck, those are almost impossible to find and quite pricey. The model number has to end with SAU if that helps.

    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 01 August 2014, 11:55:29
    While I can't give you specifics I can say you will be hunting for 2 or 3 different boards to get all the proper caps that you need.  With the space bar being the most difficult to procure iirc.

    Not sure what you mean by that? If you go WKL there shouldn't be any issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:08:20
    Anyone here who are using mx clears find that the stabilized keys feel very mushy and the rebound of the key is very laggy?  I have tried a few different things to see if I can improve it, but nothing seems to be working.  The switch seems to be nice and free as well as the stabilizers (cherry).  I didn't lube the stabs a first, but I did when they were not feeling as good as I wanted, but it really has not helped.  On all the alphas the clears feel great, but on the stabilized keys it a brutal.  I have even put stock clear springs back in (I am using 62g springs on the alphas right now) and even stock clear springs feel mushy, slow and laggy for the key to rebound.  ideas???
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:08:27
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 01 August 2014, 11:55:29
    While I can't give you specifics I can say you will be hunting for 2 or 3 different boards to get all the proper caps that you need.  With the space bar being the most difficult to procure iirc.

    Edit:  You might have some luck checking the deskthority wiki.
    Nah you can get all the caps you need for a winkeyless KMAC from one dyesub board. All the caps are compatible, and they're all the right size for the KMAC.

    They're extremely hard to find dreamre, so expect to be looking for a long time (I've been looking 8 months for a BNIB board). You're looking for the following for regular ANSI :

    G81/G80-3XXXSXU
    G81/G80-1XXXSXU
    G81/G80-3XXXSXXUS

    e.g G81-3100SAU, G81-3116SDU, G81-3100SDBUS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:10:26
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:08:20
    Anyone here who are using mx clears find that the stabilized keys feel very mushy and the rebound of the key is very laggy?  I have tried a few different things to see if I can improve it, but nothing seems to be working.  The switch seems to be nice and free as well as the stabilizers (cherry).  I didn't lube the stabs a first, but I did when they were not feeling as good as I wanted, but it really has not helped.  On all the alphas the clears feel great, but on the stabilized keys it a brutal.  I have even put stock clear springs back in (I am using 62g springs on the alphas right now) and even stock clear springs feel mushy, slow and laggy for the key to rebound.  ideas???

    Are you using lubed Ergo Clears? Did you clip your stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:11:09
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:08:20
    Anyone here who are using mx clears find that the stabilized keys feel very mushy and the rebound of the key is very laggy?  I have tried a few different things to see if I can improve it, but nothing seems to be working.  The switch seems to be nice and free as well as the stabilizers (cherry).  I didn't lube the stabs a first, but I did when they were not feeling as good as I wanted, but it really has not helped.  On all the alphas the clears feel great, but on the stabilized keys it a brutal.  I have even put stock clear springs back in (I am using 62g springs on the alphas right now) and even stock clear springs feel mushy, slow and laggy for the key to rebound.  ideas???

    Are you sure everything in the switch and stabilizers are seated right? Did you try reseat the caps or using a different 62g spring? Could have a spring that didn't meet spec. Or maybe the stem was molded oddly and it's catching the cap somehow?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:12:55
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:08:27
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 01 August 2014, 11:55:29
    While I can't give you specifics I can say you will be hunting for 2 or 3 different boards to get all the proper caps that you need.  With the space bar being the most difficult to procure iirc.

    Edit:  You might have some luck checking the deskthority wiki.
    Nah you can get all the caps you need for a winkeyless KMAC from one dyesub board. All the caps are compatible, and they're all the right size for the KMAC.

    They're extremely hard to find dreamre, so expect to be looking for a long time (I've been looking 8 months for a BNIB board). You're looking for the following for regular ANSI :

    G81/G80-3XXXSXU
    G81/G80-1XXXSXU
    G81/G80-3XXXSXXUS

    e.g G81-3100SAU, G81-3116SDU, G81-3100SDBUS

    I stand corrected.  I thought the spacebar in PBT was the tough one to locate and for some reason I thought the capslock stem was off center on the majority of boards that was PBT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:18:29
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:12:55
    I stand corrected.  I thought the spacebar in PBT was the tough one to locate and for some reason I thought the capslock stem was off center on the majority of boards that was PBT?

    Not sure about the spacebar, but a KMAC is compatible with an offcenter Caps Lock. It's also not related to PBT or anything, it's just a standard stepped Caps Lock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:19:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:18:29
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:12:55
    I stand corrected.  I thought the spacebar in PBT was the tough one to locate and for some reason I thought the capslock stem was off center on the majority of boards that was PBT?

    Not sure about the spacebar, but a KMAC is compatible with an offcenter Caps Lock.

    I see says the blind man as he spits into the wind and says "It's all coming back to me now."
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:25:08
    Those dyesub boards come with a 7x PBT spacebar. They have all the keys you need for a winkeyless, stepped-capslock KMAC.

    (http://i.imgur.com/Zm41x7c.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:42:51
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:10:26
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:08:20
    Anyone here who are using mx clears find that the stabilized keys feel very mushy and the rebound of the key is very laggy?  I have tried a few different things to see if I can improve it, but nothing seems to be working.  The switch seems to be nice and free as well as the stabilizers (cherry).  I didn't lube the stabs a first, but I did when they were not feeling as good as I wanted, but it really has not helped.  On all the alphas the clears feel great, but on the stabilized keys it a brutal.  I have even put stock clear springs back in (I am using 62g springs on the alphas right now) and even stock clear springs feel mushy, slow and laggy for the key to rebound.  ideas???

    Are you using lubed Ergo Clears? Did you clip your stabilizers?

    Yes and Yes...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:46:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:11:09
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:08:20
    Anyone here who are using mx clears find that the stabilized keys feel very mushy and the rebound of the key is very laggy?  I have tried a few different things to see if I can improve it, but nothing seems to be working.  The switch seems to be nice and free as well as the stabilizers (cherry).  I didn't lube the stabs a first, but I did when they were not feeling as good as I wanted, but it really has not helped.  On all the alphas the clears feel great, but on the stabilized keys it a brutal.  I have even put stock clear springs back in (I am using 62g springs on the alphas right now) and even stock clear springs feel mushy, slow and laggy for the key to rebound.  ideas???

    Are you sure everything in the switch and stabilizers are seated right? Did you try reseat the caps or using a different 62g spring? Could have a spring that didn't meet spec. Or maybe the stem was molded oddly and it's catching the cap somehow?

    Ya I have have basically done this.  I have actually put back the stock clear springs because they are heavier so they at least rebound the key consistently enough that the keyboard is usable, but it feels like crap cause it is still mushing and sad feeling.  It is not just the space bar though.  Most of the stabilized keys feel pretty odd.  I did not have this issue on the last board I built, so something must be a bit funky with either the stabilizers or something on this board... 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:48:38
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:46:16
    Ya I have have basically done this.  I have actually put back the stock clear springs because they are heavier so they at least rebound the key consistently enough that the keyboard is usable, but it feels like crap cause it is still mushing and sad feeling.  It is not just the space bar though.  Most of the stabilized keys feel pretty odd.  I did not have this issue on the last board I built, so something must be a bit funky with either the stabilizers or something on this board...

    Do you have another set of stabilizers you can swap in? Test those out and then go from there?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:52:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:48:38
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:46:16
    Ya I have have basically done this.  I have actually put back the stock clear springs because they are heavier so they at least rebound the key consistently enough that the keyboard is usable, but it feels like crap cause it is still mushing and sad feeling.  It is not just the space bar though.  Most of the stabilized keys feel pretty odd.  I did not have this issue on the last board I built, so something must be a bit funky with either the stabilizers or something on this board...

    Do you have another set of stabilizers you can swap in? Test those out and then go from there?

    Yes, I will do that tonight after work.  I might change the keycaps too.  It might be something like the spacing on these keycaps are pulling or pushing the stabilizers against one side of the stabilizer housing.  They are PBT after all...  I will try putting my Penumbra set on this board and see if it changes anything.  Thanks for the ideas...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:54:08
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:52:03
    Yes, I will do that tonight after work.  I might change the keycaps too.  It might be something like the spacing on these keycaps are pulling or pushing the stabilizers against one side of the stabilizer housing.  They are PBT after all...  I will try putting my Penumbra set on this board and see if it changes anything.  Thanks for the ideas...

    Sorry there was no easy fix. Let us know how it goes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 August 2014, 14:01:01
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:52:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:48:38
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:46:16
    Ya I have have basically done this.  I have actually put back the stock clear springs because they are heavier so they at least rebound the key consistently enough that the keyboard is usable, but it feels like crap cause it is still mushing and sad feeling.  It is not just the space bar though.  Most of the stabilized keys feel pretty odd.  I did not have this issue on the last board I built, so something must be a bit funky with either the stabilizers or something on this board...

    Do you have another set of stabilizers you can swap in? Test those out and then go from there?

    Yes, I will do that tonight after work.  I might change the keycaps too.  It might be something like the spacing on these keycaps are pulling or pushing the stabilizers against one side of the stabilizer housing.  They are PBT after all...  I will try putting my Penumbra set on this board and see if it changes anything.  Thanks for the ideas...

    You're on the right track. Usually it has to do with friction somewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:13:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:54:08
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:52:03
    Yes, I will do that tonight after work.  I might change the keycaps too.  It might be something like the spacing on these keycaps are pulling or pushing the stabilizers against one side of the stabilizer housing.  They are PBT after all...  I will try putting my Penumbra set on this board and see if it changes anything.  Thanks for the ideas...

    Sorry there was no easy fix. Let us know how it goes.

    Thanks for the help JD and CPT.  I was able to fix the problem.  The stabilizer wires that I was using was about 1.6mm thick.  I switched the stabilizer wire to one that was only 1.45mm thick and everything is buttery now.  Apparently the tolerance on the spacing on the PCB is so tight that the 1.6mm wire didn't give enough play for the stabilizer to move freely in the housing. I couldn't really tell when I was just playing with them with my hands, but once the keycaps on it was very obvious.  Something to keep in mind anyway...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:15:44


    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:13:10
    Thanks for the help JD and CPT.  I was able to fix the problem.  The stabilizer wires that I was using was about 1.6mm thick.  I switched the stabilizer wire to one that was only 1.45mm thick and everything is buttery now. 

    Hooray! I love happy endings
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:29:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:15:44

    Hooray! I love happy endings

    Hue hue hue
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:37:17
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:13:10
    Thanks for the help JD and CPT.  I was able to fix the problem.  The stabilizer wires that I was using was about 1.6mm thick.  I switched the stabilizer wire to one that was only 1.45mm thick and everything is buttery now.  Apparently the tolerance on the spacing on the PCB is so tight that the 1.6mm wire didn't give enough play for the stabilizer to move freely in the housing. I couldn't really tell when I was just playing with them with my hands, but once the keycaps on it was very obvious.  Something to keep in mind anyway...

    Weird, doesn't Cherry's spec say 1.6mm? Glad that it works now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 19:40:45
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:37:17
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:13:10
    Thanks for the help JD and CPT.  I was able to fix the problem.  The stabilizer wires that I was using was about 1.6mm thick.  I switched the stabilizer wire to one that was only 1.45mm thick and everything is buttery now.  Apparently the tolerance on the spacing on the PCB is so tight that the 1.6mm wire didn't give enough play for the stabilizer to move freely in the housing. I couldn't really tell when I was just playing with them with my hands, but once the keycaps on it was very obvious.  Something to keep in mind anyway...

    Weird, doesn't Cherry's spec say 1.6mm? Glad that it works now.

    I did read that somewhere as well. I think that is the max size though. The 1.45mm ones are still big enough to clip into the base. I can take pictures to show the difference tonight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sat, 02 August 2014, 20:10:30
    Wondering if KBT race layout seems to be practical?
    Ducky Shine 3 TKL vs KBT Race 2
    which one does provide better quality overall?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 02 August 2014, 20:44:33
    Quote from: ajx on Sat, 02 August 2014, 20:10:30
    1) Wondering if KBT race layout seems to be practical?

    2) Ducky Shine 3 TKL vs KBT Race 2
    which one does provide better quality overall?

    1) If we're referring to the old KBT Race, I like the 75% layout. Will it work for you? That's for you to decide.

    2) I prefer Ducky products over KBT. Thicker PCB for easier modding, I like the case better (I feel the plastic is thicker and I like the heft), and the Shine 3 has a lot of nice lighting mods. But this is very subjective and you'll have to decide for yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 02 August 2014, 23:59:13
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 19:40:45
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:37:17
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:13:10
    Thanks for the help JD and CPT.  I was able to fix the problem.  The stabilizer wires that I was using was about 1.6mm thick.  I switched the stabilizer wire to one that was only 1.45mm thick and everything is buttery now.  Apparently the tolerance on the spacing on the PCB is so tight that the 1.6mm wire didn't give enough play for the stabilizer to move freely in the housing. I couldn't really tell when I was just playing with them with my hands, but once the keycaps on it was very obvious.  Something to keep in mind anyway...

    Weird, doesn't Cherry's spec say 1.6mm? Glad that it works now.

    I did read that somewhere as well. I think that is the max size though. The 1.45mm ones are still big enough to clip into the base. I can take pictures to show the difference tonight.

    Tonight I replaced all of the 1.6mm wires with 1.45mm wires on this board and it is beautiful now.  I took the opportunity to swap out the caps and put my penumbra set on it as well.  Now that I have no mushy keys, I am really starting to enjoy this board.  Its a 75% with ergo clears (62g).  I may switch it to 65g springs at some point, but for now this is good enough.  Thanks for all the help with the stab questions...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Senthura on Sun, 03 August 2014, 18:26:44
    Is there a TKL keyboard with Cherry Greens other than CM in stock somewhere that I can get in the USA? PM or link me is fine. I like Blues and all, but yeah…

    Also, why are switches like Greens and Clears so hard to find?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 03 August 2014, 18:35:06
    Quote from: Senthura on Sun, 03 August 2014, 18:26:44
    1) Is there a TKL keyboard with Cherry Greens other than CM in stock somewhere that I can get in the USA?

    2) Why are switches like Greens and Clears so hard to find?

    1) WASD Code keyboards come in MX Greens or Clears (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard.html). Dunno of anything else off the top of my head.

    2) They're actually easy to find if you're willing to mod the keyboard yourself or pay someone to mod them. Mechanicalkeyboards.com stocks the switches. However, I think most in the mainstream aren't interested in these  switch types so they're not in many stock keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 04 August 2014, 01:43:20
    Question: is there an off-the-shelf programmable controller for the Poker II? To buy and plug in without hassle? Or is it more complicated?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 04 August 2014, 01:55:45
    Quote from: Eszett on Mon, 04 August 2014, 01:43:20
    Question: is there an off-the-shelf programmable controller for the Poker II? To buy and plug in without hassle?
    No.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 04 August 2014, 09:53:50
    Does someone know the part I need to replace the scroll wheel of my Wireless Anker Vertical mouse?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EpicSNES on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:39:10
    Anyone know if the WASD custom art ABS keycaps are good quality? http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/printed-keycap-singles/custom-art-cherry-mx-keycaps.html

    If not, is there anyone who makes ABS double shot keycaps with custom graphic?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:40:58
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 04 August 2014, 09:53:50
    Does someone know the part I need to replace the scroll wheel of my Wireless Anker Vertical mouse?

    Actually I have no idea. Could just try adding in other mice wheels from harvest mice.

    Quote from: EpicSNES on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:39:10
    1) Anyone know if the WASD custom art ABS keycaps are good quality? http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/printed-keycap-singles/custom-art-cherry-mx-keycaps.html

    2) If not, is there anyone who makes ABS double shot keycaps with custom graphic?

    1) I really really really don't like the quality of the stock WASD ABS keycaps. I feel that they're thinner than any other keycap. And they're lasered.

    2) Don't think there's a way to do this unless you do a GB with SP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:03:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:40:58
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 04 August 2014, 09:53:50
    Does someone know the part I need to replace the scroll wheel of my Wireless Anker Vertical mouse?

    Actually I have no idea. Could just try adding in other mice wheels from harvest mice.

    Quote from: EpicSNES on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:39:10
    1) Anyone know if the WASD custom art ABS keycaps are good quality? http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/printed-keycap-singles/custom-art-cherry-mx-keycaps.html

    2) If not, is there anyone who makes ABS double shot keycaps with custom graphic?

    1) I really really really don't like the quality of the stock WASD ABS keycaps. I feel that they're thinner than any other keycap. And they're lasered.

    2) Don't think there's a way to do this unless you do a GB with SP.


    I thought WASD didn't do lasered stuff anymore?

    http://support.wasdkeyboards.com/customer/portal/articles/1385384-uv-printing
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:05:05
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:03:24
    I thought WASD didn't do lasered stuff anymore?

    http://support.wasdkeyboards.com/customer/portal/articles/1385384-uv-printing

    TIL
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:07:02
    is MX-Clear recommended for gaming?
    it might be too fatiguing when you bottom it out? (65cN)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:07:51
    Quote from: ajx on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:07:02
    is MX-Clear recommended for gaming?
    it might be too fatiguing when you bottom it out? (65cN)

    Do you like them? Then they're good for gaming. If you don't like them, they're not good for gaming. I don't have any trouble gaming with them but I prefer heavy switches. Do you like heavy switches? This is something you'll have to decide for yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:11:26
    I never tried those switches
    Only did for MX-Black but its linear (too stiff for me when i bottom it out)
    Dunno if Clear requires as strength as MX-Black does

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:14:02
    Quote from: ajx on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:11:26
    I never tried those switches
    Only did for MX-Black but its linear (too stiff for me when i bottom it out)
    Dunno if Clear requires as strength as MX-Black does

    If you think MX Blacks are too heavy, stock MX Clears may not work for you. However, modded MX Clears like 62g or 65g may be nice for you. Again, that's something you'll have to figure out for yourself through research and trying them out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 04 August 2014, 14:57:36
    How often do 55g RF 87u's come around on EliteKeyboards? Wondering if I need to pull the trigger now while they're available, or if I can put it off till the end of the year/early next year? They don't seem *too* rare, but I'd like to make sure I'm not missing out on a major event with their restock in the coming days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 04 August 2014, 15:07:38
    Quote from: ajx on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:11:26
    I never tried those switches
    Only did for MX-Black but its linear (too stiff for me when i bottom it out)
    Dunno if Clear requires as strength as MX-Black does

    Clear springs (not looking at total curve with stem) have an actuation point slightly lighter than blacks, but bottom out heavier.  They have a steeper force curve that many people like.  I love clear springs in linear stems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 15:23:14
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 04 August 2014, 14:57:36
    How often do 55g RF 87u's come around on EliteKeyboards? Wondering if I need to pull the trigger now while they're available, or if I can put it off till the end of the year/early next year? They don't seem *too* rare, but I'd like to make sure I'm not missing out on a major event with their restock in the coming days.

    They seem to keep them in stock fairly often.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:30:35
    I just got my Cherry WOB set from hwood34's GB. I was wondering if it possible to restore the legend as white as snow?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:43:48
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:30:35
    I just got my Cherry WOB set from hwood34's GB. I was wondering if it possible to restore the legend as white as snow?

    If they're yellowed you can try retrobright, not sure what kind of effect it would have on the black plastic though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:54:44
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:43:48
    If they're yellowed you can try retrobright, not sure what kind of effect it would have on the black plastic though.

    yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Retrobright's effect on black plastic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Tue, 05 August 2014, 18:55:10
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:54:44
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:43:48
    If they're yellowed you can try retrobright, not sure what kind of effect it would have on the black plastic though.

    yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Retrobright's effect on black plastic.

    Hopefully it doesn't act like bleach and black shirts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 August 2014, 19:21:07
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Tue, 05 August 2014, 18:55:10
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:54:44
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:43:48
    If they're yellowed you can try retrobright, not sure what kind of effect it would have on the black plastic though.

    yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Retrobright's effect on black plastic.

    Hopefully it doesn't act like bleach and black shirts.

    That might turn into a new thing though. Surely someone would like it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: beauthegamer on Tue, 05 August 2014, 22:02:46
    I don't appear to be able to post a thread in the classifieds sub-forum, even though I have more than 25 posts and my account is well over 2 months old. Is there some sort of hidden post counter that is actually being counted or something?
    EDIT: And now I can post a new thread. Weird.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 05 August 2014, 22:05:49
    Quote from: beauthegamer on Tue, 05 August 2014, 22:02:46
    I don't appear to be able to post a thread in the classifieds sub-forum, even though I have more than 25 posts and my account is well over 2 months old. Is there some sort of hidden post counter that is actually being counted or something?
    EDIT: And now I can post a new thread. Weird.

    They have to be approved.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: beauthegamer on Tue, 05 August 2014, 22:09:24
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 05 August 2014, 22:05:49
    Quote from: beauthegamer on Tue, 05 August 2014, 22:02:46
    I don't appear to be able to post a thread in the classifieds sub-forum, even though I have more than 25 posts and my account is well over 2 months old. Is there some sort of hidden post counter that is actually being counted or something?
    EDIT: And now I can post a new thread. Weird.

    They have to be approved.

    My issue wasn't that my post wasn't showing up, the New Topic button was missing. It appears to have fixed itself though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 August 2014, 08:36:15
    Quote from: beauthegamer on Tue, 05 August 2014, 22:09:24
    My issue wasn't that my post wasn't showing up, the New Topic button was missing. It appears to have fixed itself though.

    If you're having issues with your posts or just having issues in general, you can always PM one of the moderators to get your issues resolved. Or report your own post and write down what you'd like done in the comments.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 August 2014, 08:53:03
    Whatever happened to the backlit ergodox (http://deskthority.net/wiki/ErgoDox#Backlit_version)? Was that ever released?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 August 2014, 08:55:42
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 August 2014, 08:53:03
    Whatever happened to the backlit ergodox (http://deskthority.net/wiki/ErgoDox#Backlit_version)? Was that ever released?

    Looks like the user who was working on that project posted an update in February (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52835.msg1177773#msg1177773) but hasn't posted much since then regarding the project.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 07 August 2014, 08:59:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 August 2014, 08:55:42
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 August 2014, 08:53:03
    Whatever happened to the backlit ergodox (http://deskthority.net/wiki/ErgoDox#Backlit_version)? Was that ever released?

    Looks like the user who was working on that project posted an update in February (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52835.msg1177773#msg1177773) but hasn't posted much since then regarding the project.

    I have a solution.  Ergo Dox  case with Enabler PCBs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 August 2014, 09:02:10
    Ohhhh~ I see. Well I PM'ed the user that was working on it, but if that ball was dropped I may actually try to use the Enabler solution. :] Thanks guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 07 August 2014, 09:06:31
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 August 2014, 09:02:10
    Ohhhh~ I see. Well I PM'ed the user that was working on it, but if that ball was dropped I may actually try to use the Enabler solution. :] Thanks guys!

    Orders are closed and all invoices are paid right now for that GB.  I can tell you that i3oilermaker ordered a bunch to stock on techkeys I believe and I will be making the files public as soon as I have them officially ordered.  Currently waiting on a response back from the fab shop.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 07 August 2014, 09:12:22
    Hehe, no problem there, I can definitely wait. I am pretty much planning 2 keyboards in advance ahahahahahahaha~
    Sometimes I wanna buy a lab coat just so that I can feel like a mad scientist when I'm finally doing some mods.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iOxygen on Fri, 08 August 2014, 02:00:22
    Where can I buy a Quickfire Rapid with blues below $80?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 08 August 2014, 03:16:13
    Quote from: iOxygen on Fri, 08 August 2014, 02:00:22
    Where can I buy a Quickfire Rapid with blues below $80?

    80$ is already very cheap for a mechanical keyboard, I think you will have to wait until it goes on sale.
    Mechanicalkeyboards.com has one for 75$: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=37
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:36:04
    Where can I get some of the small silver Cherry stickers that I have seen some people put one their G80-3700's?

    I just got a G80-3700HQAUS-0, and I would really like to get a few of them.

    I ordered some of the ones that Feng sells, but they are a little too big.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:37:24


    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:36:04
    Where can I get some of the small silver Cherry stickers that I have seen some people put one their G80-3700's?

    Shadovved sold them but I'm not he has anymore.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:39:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:37:24


    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:36:04
    Where can I get some of the small silver Cherry stickers that I have seen some people put one their G80-3700's?

    Shadovved sold them but I'm not he has anymore.

    Okay.  Thanks CPT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:42:14
    Some 3700s come with them :)

    3700HAU for example :

    (http://i.imgur.com/rswpDQc.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:44:56
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:42:14
    Some 3700s come with them :)

    3700HAU for example :

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/rswpDQc.jpg)


    Correct.  Yeah I was aware of that.  But I have seen some people put silver Cherry stickers on theirs that didn't come with one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 08 August 2014, 22:46:34
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:36:04
    Where can I get some of the small silver Cherry stickers that I have seen some people put one their G80-3700's?

    I just got a G80-3700HQAUS-0, and I would really like to get a few of them.

    I ordered some of the ones that Feng sells, but they are a little too big.

    I don't have any of the silver ones, but I've got a red one you can have if you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:16:11
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Fri, 08 August 2014, 22:46:34
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:36:04
    Where can I get some of the small silver Cherry stickers that I have seen some people put one their G80-3700's?

    I just got a G80-3700HQAUS-0, and I would really like to get a few of them.

    I ordered some of the ones that Feng sells, but they are a little too big.

    I don't have any of the silver ones, but I've got a red one you can have if you want.

    Where did you get it from if you don't mind me asking?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EpicSNES on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:23:53
    Is there a mod to get rid of the 'mushy' feel of cherry stabilizers? I saw one mod but I believe it required soldering and whatnot which I'm not too keen on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:25:21
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:23:53
    Is there a mod to get rid of the 'mushy' feel of cherry stabilizers? I saw one mod but I believe it required soldering and whatnot which I'm not too keen on.

    Yeah, you gotta clip the stabilizer legs.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34759.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:25:50
    Do HHKB2 come prelubed? I was putting dental bands on mine and I noticed all the main cylindrical stems (not the sliders) seemed kind of greasy, or shiny at the very least?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:26:31
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:23:53
    Is there a mod to get rid of the 'mushy' feel of cherry stabilizers? I saw one mod but I believe it required soldering and whatnot which I'm not too keen on.

    The reason it requires soldering is because you have to disassemble your keyboard in order to access the stabilizer legs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:32:52
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:25:50
    Do HHKB2 come prelubed? I was putting dental bands on mine and I noticed all the main cylindrical stems (not the sliders) seemed kind of greasy, or shiny at the very least?

    I think I remember reading that someone said they came lightly lubed. Don't quote me on that though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 09 August 2014, 00:17:47
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:16:11
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Fri, 08 August 2014, 22:46:34
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:36:04
    Where can I get some of the small silver Cherry stickers that I have seen some people put one their G80-3700's?

    I just got a G80-3700HQAUS-0, and I would really like to get a few of them.

    I ordered some of the ones that Feng sells, but they are a little too big.

    I don't have any of the silver ones, but I've got a red one you can have if you want.

    Where did you get it from if you don't mind me asking?

    Got it from Shadovved a loooong time ago. After looking at your pic in the other thread, it actually looks like the same sticker, except red. No idea where the smaller one came from, sorry about that.

    More
    (http://i.imgur.com/8DETurN.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 09 August 2014, 00:20:38
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 09 August 2014, 00:17:47
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 23:16:11
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Fri, 08 August 2014, 22:46:34
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 August 2014, 17:36:04
    Where can I get some of the small silver Cherry stickers that I have seen some people put one their G80-3700's?

    I just got a G80-3700HQAUS-0, and I would really like to get a few of them.

    I ordered some of the ones that Feng sells, but they are a little too big.

    I don't have any of the silver ones, but I've got a red one you can have if you want.

    Where did you get it from if you don't mind me asking?

    Got it from Shadovved a loooong time ago. After looking at your pic in the other thread, it actually looks like the same sticker, except red. No idea where the smaller one came from, sorry about that.

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/8DETurN.jpg)

    No problem,  but thanks for the offer  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Roark17 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 15:04:09
    Does anyone know if these key caps (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=win_bn) are ABS or PBT (I'm guessing PBT since they're originally Leopold caps).  More importantly, are they Cherry or OEM profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 18:26:56
    Quote from: Roark17 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 15:04:09
    Does anyone know if these key caps (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=win_bn) are ABS or PBT (I'm guessing PBT since they're originally Leopold caps).  More importantly, are they Cherry or OEM profile?

    I don't think EK lists any PBT MX keycaps.  My guess would be ABS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 August 2014, 18:41:00
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 18:26:56
    Quote from: Roark17 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 15:04:09
    Does anyone know if these key caps (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=win_bn) are ABS or PBT (I'm guessing PBT since they're originally Leopold caps).  More importantly, are they Cherry or OEM profile?

    I don't think EK lists any PBT MX keycaps.  My guess would be ABS.

    I also think they're ABS. I would guess OEM since they're from Leopold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Roark17 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:37:36
    Well I was hoping for PBT + Cherry profile, but I ended up just buying them regardless since I was already placing an order at EK.  For literally "three fiddy", who could say no.  I'll be sure to comment on their exact specs when they arrived.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:58:56
    Where can I get these caps?

    (http://i.imgur.com/TjltK3S.jpg)

    Pic by Brocaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:09:58
    Question: are there any other keycaps with uniform profile available except DSA from SP?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:35:03
    Quote from: Eszett on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:09:58
    Question: are there any other keycaps with uniform profile available except DSA from SP?

    SA comes in all row three. And you can check the OP to see all the keycap types that SP has.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:53:43
    Thanks, Captain Badass. But I have to start a GB to get them in all row three, isn’t it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:54:30
    Quote from: Eszett on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:53:43
    Thanks, Captain Badass. But I have to start a GB to get them in all row three, isn’t it?

    Yes. I don't think there's been a GB where there's been SA all Row 3. Maybe that Honeywell buy that 7bit ran?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:57:47
    Don’t think so. Honeywell Round 5 was row specific (with different row profiles)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:59:59
    Quote from: Eszett on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:53:43
    Thanks, Captain Badass. But I have to start a GB to get them in all row three, isn’t it?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61198.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:04:03
    @Spamray White on green doesn’t look too bad, but I need german legends. Maybe I should start a GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:06:49
    I have a question about these TEX alu cases for TKL Filcos:

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=44

    Are they identical to the Vortex Alu case and were just relabeled?

    The Vortex one costed about the same, but had major flaws and quality issues...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:12:38
    From what I have understood, they're the same design, but Tex changed manufacturers and has much tighter QC than Vortex.  Don't take that as fact though since it could have been someone's speculation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:15:58
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:12:38
    From what I have understood, they're the same design, but Tex changed manufacturers and has much tighter QC than Vortex.  Don't take that as fact though since it could have been someone's speculation.

    Thanks for the fast reply!

    We need a review of this damn thing ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:27:40
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:58:56
    Where can I get these caps?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/TjltK3S.jpg)


    Pic by Brocaps.

    If I'm not mistaken, I think those are BSP caps. Not sure where to get them besides from imsto GBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:36:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:27:40
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:58:56
    Where can I get these caps?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/TjltK3S.jpg)


    Pic by Brocaps.

    If I'm not mistaken, I think those are BSP caps. Not sure where to get them besides from imsto GBs.

    sherry has some on his site i think
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:44:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:27:40
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:58:56
    Where can I get these caps?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/TjltK3S.jpg)


    Pic by Brocaps.

    If I'm not mistaken, I think those are BSP caps. Not sure where to get them besides from imsto GBs.
    The grey keycaps are regular imsto thick PBT (get from imsto). The RGBs are indeed BSP blanks (can get them from Originative).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 10 August 2014, 15:04:39
    Quote from: Eszett on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:04:03
    @Spamray White on green doesn’t look too bad, but I need german legends. Maybe I should start a GB.

    A group buy for what? A DE language pack add-on for the all-row-3 SA-profile Nuclear Data set? Or for a new all-row-3 keycap set with DE language pack? To have a successful group buy, you need broad appeal with low price and high order count. Not sure you're going to get that for a language-specific set. Also, there are a couple group buys going on now, that probably have drained everyone's wallets at the moment. If you decide to start a keycap group buy, it would probably be in your best interest to wait a couple months.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 10 August 2014, 20:03:37
    Quote from: Photekq on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:44:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:27:40
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 10 August 2014, 12:58:56
    Where can I get these caps?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/TjltK3S.jpg)


    Pic by Brocaps.

    If I'm not mistaken, I think those are BSP caps. Not sure where to get them besides from imsto GBs.
    The grey keycaps are regular imsto thick PBT (get from imsto). The RGBs are indeed BSP blanks (can get them from Originative).

    Thanks Pho.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 10 August 2014, 20:06:35
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Sun, 10 August 2014, 14:06:49
    I have a question about these TEX alu cases for TKL Filcos:

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=44

    Are they identical to the Vortex Alu case and were just relabeled?

    The Vortex one costed about the same, but had major flaws and quality issues...

    The TEX 80% cases are indeed better than what Vortex has to offer, but not necessarily better than their own 60% case.

    Quote
    TEX 60% case comes from a factory which taking order from Lian-Li. Anodizing is very beautiful and flawless.
    Another factory handle the 80% case, which is cheaper and some flaw points in the case.

    Read this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60549.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 11 August 2014, 00:43:38
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 10 August 2014, 20:06:35

    The TEX 80% cases are indeed better than what Vortex has to offer, but not necessarily better than their own 60% case.

    Quote
    TEX 60% case comes from a factory which taking order from Lian-Li. Anodizing is very beautiful and flawless.
    Another factory handle the 80% case, which is cheaper and some flaw points in the case.

    Read this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60549.0).

    Thanks for the link!

    Doesn't sound too bad for the price  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EpicSNES on Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:36:56
    Regarding Filco Majestouch 2... are more custom cases compatible with the regular version or the ninja version since the LED's are in different places? Stupid question I know, I'm just arguing with myself which one I may put on my list to order.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 11 August 2014, 06:38:50
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:36:56
    Regarding Filco Majestouch 2... are more custom cases compatible with the regular version or the ninja version since the LED's are in different places? Stupid question I know, I'm just arguing with myself which one I may put on my list to order.

    As far as I know they are identical even the leds are same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 August 2014, 07:15:10


    Quote from: EpicSNES on Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:36:56
    Regarding Filco Majestouch 2... are more custom cases compatible with the regular version or the ninja version since the LED's are in different places?

    I didn't think they had different LED locations. I was under the impression they had the same dimensions, just different aesthetics.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 11 August 2014, 09:50:01
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:36:56
    Regarding Filco Majestouch 2... are more custom cases compatible with the regular version or the ninja version since the LED's are in different places? Stupid question I know, I'm just arguing with myself which one I may put on my list to order.

    They're literally the same except for keycaps and black badge.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 11 August 2014, 09:51:50
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 11 August 2014, 09:50:01
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:36:56
    Regarding Filco Majestouch 2... are more custom cases compatible with the regular version or the ninja version since the LED's are in different places? Stupid question I know, I'm just arguing with myself which one I may put on my list to order.

    They're literally the same except for keycaps and black badge.

    And the deletion of the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock printing on the Ninja version. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EpicSNES on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:26:26
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 11 August 2014, 09:51:50
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 11 August 2014, 09:50:01
    Quote from: EpicSNES on Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:36:56
    Regarding Filco Majestouch 2... are more custom cases compatible with the regular version or the ninja version since the LED's are in different places? Stupid question I know, I'm just arguing with myself which one I may put on my list to order.

    They're literally the same except for keycaps and black badge.

    And the deletion of the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock printing on the Ninja version. :)

    LOL. I was thinking the LED's were placed on the caps/scroll lock keys. Looking at pics now, derp. Got it confused with the quickfire pro stealth...

    Don't make fun of me D:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spremino on Mon, 11 August 2014, 17:37:59
    Which keyboard has wider key caps, both in length and width: Cherry G80-3000 or IBM Model M?  Or are they the same?  By looking at pictures, it seems that it is the Cherry.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 11 August 2014, 22:33:13
    How does one tune a keyboard? I've heard really nice things about the build quality of the works from GON and margo and was wondering how they do tune the keyboard. I don't have one built from them but I would like to tune an upcoming keyboard of mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 11 August 2014, 22:40:45
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 11 August 2014, 22:33:13
    How does one tune a keyboard? I've heard really nice things about the build quality of the works from GON and margo and was wondering how they do tune the keyboard. I don't have one built from them but I would like to tune an upcoming keyboard of mine.

    That is a question I asked when I first saw that termbecause it doesn't really make sense.  The more I learned, the more I discovered that it's such a vague term that almost anything where you do something other than just installing switches could be considered "tuning"; from the more time intensive lubing, switch swapping, and stickering (which is what I consider "tuning") to the less time intensive testing MX Blues for their click and only using ones that are clicky and similarly clicky, all of it falls under definitions I've seen. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 12 August 2014, 00:32:19
    has anyone here bought the led covers that change the led colors? I bought a bunch from massdrop in the last gb and have not used them yet. the question.... do they work with 2x3x4mm Rectangle LED's ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 August 2014, 07:19:33
    Quote from: domoaligato on Tue, 12 August 2014, 00:32:19
    has anyone here bought the led covers that change the led colors? I bought a bunch from massdrop in the last gb and have not used them yet. the question.... do they work with 2x3x4mm Rectangle LED's ?

    I've actually been wondering myself. I've never gotten confirmation or seen a picture that those LED covers have fit over 2x3x4mm rectangle LEDs.

    Quote from: spremino on Mon, 11 August 2014, 17:37:59
    Which keyboard has wider key caps, both in length and width: Cherry G80-3000 or IBM Model M?  Or are they the same?  By looking at pictures, it seems that it is the Cherry.

    The caps aren't the same width and I think they might be similar lengths. IBM caps are much thicker in width.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:01:54
    Which of the Cherry vintage variants have ANSI winkeyless layouts with DS caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:08:58
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:01:54
    Which of the Cherry vintage variants have ANSI winkeyless layouts with DS caps?

    G80-18XXHXXXX
    G80-3000HXXXX
    G80-1000HXXXX

    Older variants of these. You'll still have to look at them, because Cherry changed from WKL to Winkey without really changing product codes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Wed, 13 August 2014, 12:22:50
    Where can I find high quality Ergodox custom metal cases? Preferably KMAC-level quality.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 August 2014, 12:24:14
    Quote from: cannonking on Wed, 13 August 2014, 12:22:50
    Where can I find high quality Ergodox custom metal cases? Preferably KMAC-level quality.

    1. Learn 3D CAD.
    2. Design ErgoDox case.
    3. Have case machined.
    4. Profit!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 August 2014, 12:25:38
    Quote from: cannonking on Wed, 13 August 2014, 12:22:50
    Where can I find high quality Ergodox custom metal cases? Preferably KMAC-level quality.

    By KMAC level quality, I assume you mean you'd like a CNC'd aluminum case that is cut from a solid bar? Don't believe there's a case like that. AKmalamute is running a layered steel case buy. So the case is made of layered sheets of steel.

    A really high quality E-dox case that I've always loved is the ones that kurplop made. Think he called it the Ergodock. You could try contacting him if you're into them.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 August 2014, 12:24:14
    1. Learn 3D CAD.
    2. Design ErgoDox case.
    3. Have case machined.
    4. Profit!

    Yup, you could also go to the DIY route for your case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 13 August 2014, 12:28:22
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:08:58
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:01:54
    Which of the Cherry vintage variants have ANSI winkeyless layouts with DS caps?

    G80-18XXHXXXX
    G80-3000HXXXX
    G80-1000HXXXX

    Older variants of these. You'll still have to look at them, because Cherry changed from WKL to Winkey without really changing product codes.
    Most winkeyless boards would be HXU e.g HAU, HEU etc. Most winkey boards would be HXXUS like HRMUS.

    Also, there's a bunch of 3XXX and 1XXX.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nathairtras on Wed, 13 August 2014, 17:43:30
    KBT Pure - Can you add a plate?  Still case-swappable with Poker cases?

    Like the Pure, not the Pure Pro, want to swap out the switches anyway, would prefer plate-mount.  Especially one with notches.....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 August 2014, 17:52:49
    Quote from: nathairtras on Wed, 13 August 2014, 17:43:30
    KBT Pure - Can you add a plate?  Still case-swappable with Poker cases?

    Yes but you'll need the place specifically for the Pure. I ordered one from the GH60 buy for mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Senthura on Thu, 14 August 2014, 00:54:05
    Is a Taipan or Avior 7000 better for large hands? My measurement is 17 cm wrist crease to top of middle finger. I don't want overhang anywhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Thu, 14 August 2014, 01:18:26

    Quote from: Senthura on Thu, 14 August 2014, 00:54:05
    Is a Taipan or Avior 7000 better for large hands? My measurement is 17 cm wrist crease to top of middle finger. I don't want overhang anywhere.
    get a deathadder 2013 or zowie ec1 evo. ec2 evo might be a tad too small.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Thu, 14 August 2014, 03:15:25
    Quote from: frosty on Thu, 14 August 2014, 01:18:26

    Quote from: Senthura on Thu, 14 August 2014, 00:54:05
    Is a Taipan or Avior 7000 better for large hands? My measurement is 17 cm wrist crease to top of middle finger. I don't want overhang anywhere.
    get a deathadder 2013 or zowie ec1 evo. ec2 evo might be a tad too small.

    Consider the Zowie FK1 as well. It's a good mouse.

    Also, have you read this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56240.0)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Senthura on Thu, 14 August 2014, 04:08:57
    Quote from: combataran on Thu, 14 August 2014, 03:15:25
    Quote from: frosty on Thu, 14 August 2014, 01:18:26

    Quote from: Senthura on Thu, 14 August 2014, 00:54:05
    Is a Taipan or Avior 7000 better for large hands? My measurement is 17 cm wrist crease to top of middle finger. I don't want overhang anywhere.
    get a deathadder 2013 or zowie ec1 evo. ec2 evo might be a tad too small.

    Consider the Zowie FK1 as well. It's a good mouse.

    Also, have you read this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56240.0)?

    I browsed that thread a bit. I'm just looking at ambidextrous models, size wise = probably 5 inch min. I'm leaning toward Mionix here so far except that there's a lack of reliable review sources or my Googleplex is broken right now. If I could find someone here that has one…
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Fri, 15 August 2014, 01:18:36
    What caps are these again? I keep forgetting.

    (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/060/705/003/7618ea7a5f4303f47d81bd2aa3d0aaa8.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 15 August 2014, 01:19:13
    Quote from: combataran on Fri, 15 August 2014, 01:18:36
    What caps are these again? I keep forgetting.

    Show Image
    (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/060/705/003/7618ea7a5f4303f47d81bd2aa3d0aaa8.JPG)


    Looks like BSP dyesubs to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Candyflip on Fri, 15 August 2014, 06:03:56
    They look like normal Cherry doubleshots.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 15 August 2014, 06:04:26
    Quote from: Candyflip on Fri, 15 August 2014, 06:03:56
    They look like normal Cherry doubleshots.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Fri, 15 August 2014, 06:11:14
    Thanks bros.

     ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 07:44:06
    Has anyone ever tried to produce the red plastic key cap holder of Cherry? I know there were threads and small discussion, but has anyone ever modeled it digitally or looked into it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 08:49:19
    Quote from: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 07:44:06
    Has anyone ever tried to produce the red plastic key cap holder of Cherry? I know there were threads and small discussion, but has anyone ever modeled it digitally or looked into it?
    What keycap holder are you referring to? Not quite sure what you mean.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:18:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 08:49:19
    Quote from: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 07:44:06
    Has anyone ever tried to produce the red plastic key cap holder of Cherry? I know there were threads and small discussion, but has anyone ever modeled it digitally or looked into it?
    What keycap holder are you referring to? Not quite sure what you mean.

    [attachimg=1]

    [attachimg=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:19:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:18:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 08:49:19
    Quote from: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 07:44:06
    Has anyone ever tried to produce the red plastic key cap holder of Cherry? I know there were threads and small discussion, but has anyone ever modeled it digitally or looked into it?
    What keycap holder are you referring to? Not quite sure what you mean.

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    I've never seen anything like that on the market or in MST. RabRhee made something similar to that though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:28:16
    Quote from: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 07:44:06
    Has anyone ever tried to produce the red plastic key cap holder of Cherry? I know there were threads and small discussion, but has anyone ever modeled it digitally or looked into it?

    The only thing remotely close easily available for purchase and somewhat cheap is these

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=us104_case

    I think if you want multiples and email them they can get the shipping to be a little cheaper than what shows up when checking out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:29:30
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:28:16
    Quote from: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 07:44:06
    Has anyone ever tried to produce the red plastic key cap holder of Cherry? I know there were threads and small discussion, but has anyone ever modeled it digitally or looked into it?

    The only thing remotely close easily available for purchase and somewhat cheap is these

    What about the keycap holders from SP?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:31:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:29:30
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:28:16
    Quote from: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 07:44:06
    Has anyone ever tried to produce the red plastic key cap holder of Cherry? I know there were threads and small discussion, but has anyone ever modeled it digitally or looked into it?

    The only thing remotely close easily available for purchase and somewhat cheap is these

    What about the keycap holders from SP?

    Those are ok but are a little pricey. I haven't checked lately I assume they are the same.

    I've got a few MY boards I've been meaning to do something with....stick those stems in an acrylic sheet or something...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:32:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:31:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:29:30
    What about the keycap holders from SP?

    Those are ok but are a little pricey. I haven't checked lately I assume they are the same.

    Yes but they are still an option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:34:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:32:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:31:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:29:30
    What about the keycap holders from SP?

    Those are ok but are a little pricey. I haven't checked lately I assume they are the same.

    Yes but they are still an option.

    True for those who are not familiar this is what we are talking about http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/inventory/modular-display-storage-kits (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/inventory/modular-display-storage-kits)

    and to round it out keypop has storage boxes http://www.keypop.net/product/keycap-display-case (http://www.keypop.net/product/keycap-display-case)

    captn i don't look in the OP much do you have a section keycap storage?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:48:37
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:28:16
    The only thing remotely close easily available for purchase and somewhat cheap is these

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=us104_case

    I think if you want multiples and email them they can get the shipping to be a little cheaper than what shows up when checking out.

    I bought 5 of the those, but the layout is slightly off for sets (on top of not having enough places for large, full sets), and I'm considering whether I want to try and obtain a red Cherry one and look into having it produced, and altered for even larger sets. All just brainstorms at the moment; hence the question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:52:06
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:28:16
    The only thing remotely close easily available for purchase and somewhat cheap is these

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=us104_case

    I think if you want multiples and email them they can get the shipping to be a little cheaper than what shows up when checking out.

    I bought 5 of the those, but the layout is slightly off for sets (on top of not having enough places for large, full sets), and I'm considering whether I want to try and obtain a red Cherry one and look into having it produced, and altered for even larger sets. All just brainstorms at the moment; hence the question.

    Edit - The SP option is slightly too expensive (and one I've contemplated since I noticed them). And the Keypop one isn't to my liking, layout and construction-wise. Not really on top of the aspect of hiding key caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:57:37
    Quote from: divito on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:52:06
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:28:16
    The only thing remotely close easily available for purchase and somewhat cheap is these

    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=us104_case

    I think if you want multiples and email them they can get the shipping to be a little cheaper than what shows up when checking out.

    I bought 5 of the those, but the layout is slightly off for sets (on top of not having enough places for large, full sets), and I'm considering whether I want to try and obtain a red Cherry one and look into having it produced, and altered for even larger sets. All just brainstorms at the moment; hence the question.

    Edit - The SP option is slightly too expensive (and one I've contemplated since I noticed them). And the Keypop one isn't too my liking, layout and construction-wise. Not really on top of the aspect of hiding key caps.

    I wonder if SP would give us a group buy discount if we bought enough of them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhineasRex on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:29:06
    Originative doesn't seem to be selling springs anymore (they are out of stock and nont planning on restocking); where else can one purchase springs (In the 45g to 65g weights)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:31:08
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:29:06
    Originative doesn't seem to be selling springs anymore (they are out of stock and nont planning on restocking); where else can one purchase springs (In the 45g to 65g weights)?

    Hm...maybe just the classifieds at this point. I can't recall any other retailers that carry them off the top of my head.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:44:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:31:08
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:29:06
    Originative doesn't seem to be selling springs anymore (they are out of stock and nont planning on restocking); where else can one purchase springs (In the 45g to 65g weights)?

    Hm...maybe just the classifieds at this point. I can't recall any other retailers that carry them off the top of my head.

    Sprit is selling springs at a pretty reasonable price.  Might want to check them out...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 16 August 2014, 05:06:28
    why are so many people on this forum capable of taking such gorgeous photos? i thought photography is up there in terms of difficulty, or maybe there's just a lot of overlap between the two hobbies. either way, i'm very grateful for those who provide the forum with its daily dose of keyboard porn
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sat, 16 August 2014, 06:25:33
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 16 August 2014, 05:06:28
    why are so many people on this forum capable of taking such gorgeous photos? i thought photography is up there in terms of difficulty, or maybe there's just a lot of overlap between the two hobbies. either way, i'm very grateful for those who provide the forum with its daily dose of keyboard porn
    Maybe because in photo like in kb many details, and every detail should be on it's own place :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 August 2014, 08:31:30


    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 16 August 2014, 05:06:28
    why are so many people on this forum capable of taking such gorgeous photos?

    Like many others, I got into photography because of this site. Not that my pictures are great but I'm far from the only person who has bought a nice camera (read dslr or micro 4/3) because of this site. And even without a proper tool, there's plenty of examples and info on how to make the most of say your cell phone camera.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 16 August 2014, 09:46:44
    or you can just be like me and take a million potato pics
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 16 August 2014, 09:50:22
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 16 August 2014, 09:46:44
    or you can just be like me and take a million potato pics

    Potato pics FTW! +1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 16 August 2014, 09:55:48
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 16 August 2014, 05:06:28
    why are so many people on this forum capable of taking such gorgeous photos? i thought photography is up there in terms of difficulty, or maybe there's just a lot of overlap between the two hobbies. either way, i'm very grateful for those who provide the forum with its daily dose of keyboard porn
    If you think this forum takes nice photos you should check out the Korean sites :eek:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:29:45
    I just noticed one of my blue alps switches is actuating before the click, so I can actuate it with very little force. It's not that big of an issue but if there's some easy fix that I can perform by popping the switch open I'd like to take care of it. Any ideas? Am I potentially making a big mistake by attempting to mess with the internals?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:33:10
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:29:45
    I just noticed one of my blue alps switches is actuating before the click, so I can actuate it with very little force. It's not that big of an issue but if there's some easy fix that I can perform by popping the switch open I'd like to take care of it. Any ideas? Am I potentially making a big mistake by attempting to mess with the internals?

    You can try swapping out the internals.  Alps can be tricky to put back together, but I've found it's easiest to put the switches back together if you hold the keyboard upside down. If you do it that way, you shouldn't have any issues.

    It could just be the leaf or something.  IME, clicky Alps are some of the more temperamental ones as they age.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:33:19
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:29:45
    I just noticed one of my blue alps switches is actuating before the click, so I can actuate it with very little force. It's not that big of an issue but if there's some easy fix that I can perform by popping the switch open I'd like to take care of it. Any ideas? Am I potentially making a big mistake by attempting to mess with the internals?
    If you check my review, I talk about fixing an alps switch and the internals in my Kingsaver. It won't be an issue, just read up about it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:02:05
    Thanks guys, that makes me feel more confident. I'll give it a try.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhineasRex on Mon, 18 August 2014, 04:30:18
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:44:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:31:08
    Quote from: PhineasRex on Fri, 15 August 2014, 12:29:06
    Originative doesn't seem to be selling springs anymore (they are out of stock and nont planning on restocking); where else can one purchase springs (In the 45g to 65g weights)?

    Hm...maybe just the classifieds at this point. I can't recall any other retailers that carry them off the top of my head.

    Sprit is selling springs at a pretty reasonable price.  Might want to check them out...
    Thanks! I just placed an order in that group buy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:13:31
    I have a board with black slider clone alps (don't remember but I think someone linked what they were). They're clicky, but some of the switches feel pretty scratchy going down, and some are moderately sticky. Should I just try cleaning the sliders? I know you shouldn't lube blues, but does that apply for all clicky switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:26:29


    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:13:31
    Should I just try cleaning the sliders? I know you shouldn't lube blues, but does that apply for all clicky switches?

    Can't hurt to lube the switches. But I've found that from my own experiences, lubing a clicky switch kills the click.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:30:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:26:29


    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:13:31
    Should I just try cleaning the sliders? I know you shouldn't lube blues, but does that apply for all clicky switches?

    Can't hurt to lube the switches. But I've found that from my own experiences, lubing a clicky switch kills the click.
    Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I guess I'll just give em a denture bath
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:48:35
    If I were to lube an mx clear with thick lube from techkeys, should I lube both slider and legs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:50:46
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:48:35
    If I were to lube an mx clear with thick lube from techkeys, should I lube both slider and legs?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:59:08
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:48:35
    If I were to lube an mx clear with thick lube from techkeys, should I lube both slider and legs?

    You can also find some answers here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59041.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:17:57
    I have no idea where to ask this so I thought I would ask here...

    I have seen a few people put dip sockets in there builds for led's.
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58969.0

    then I found feng's groupbuy for a keyboard with removable switches and leds that appear to have smd mounted dip sockets?
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61714.0

    Are these basically what swill used or closer to what DeeLonG has engineered onto his pcb?

    Peel-A-Way® Removable Terminal Carriers
    http://www.advanced.com/products/ic-socket-adapters/dip-sockets-adapters/options

    specs pdf with drawings.
    http://www.advanced.com/pdf/AIC_DIP_Sockets_Peel-A-Way_16A_rev0.pdf
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:50:33
    Would Sea Glow be a good substitute for Retr0brite?
    http://www.amazon.com/Island-Girl-Products-Sea-Glow/dp/B0091SW9TW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408402120&sr=8-1&keywords=sea+glow+for+sneakers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:32:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:50:33
    Would Sea Glow be a good substitute for Retr0brite?
    http://www.amazon.com/Island-Girl-Products-Sea-Glow/dp/B0091SW9TW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408402120&sr=8-1&keywords=sea+glow+for+sneakers

    I used a solution of 10% hydrogen peroxide and a big spoon of some oxi cleaner powder, worked very well. It should be cheap and easily available, why do you want to go with something else?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:45:07
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:32:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:50:33
    Would Sea Glow be a good substitute for Retr0brite?
    http://www.amazon.com/Island-Girl-Products-Sea-Glow/dp/B0091SW9TW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408402120&sr=8-1&keywords=sea+glow+for+sneakers

    I used a solution of 10% hydrogen peroxide and a big spoon of some oxi cleaner powder, worked very well. It should be cheap and easily available, why do you want to go with something else?

    The only hydrogen peroxide I can find here is 4%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:46:57
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:45:07
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:32:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:50:33
    Would Sea Glow be a good substitute for Retr0brite?
    http://www.amazon.com/Island-Girl-Products-Sea-Glow/dp/B0091SW9TW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408402120&sr=8-1&keywords=sea+glow+for+sneakers

    I used a solution of 10% hydrogen peroxide and a big spoon of some oxi cleaner powder, worked very well. It should be cheap and easily available, why do you want to go with something else?

    The only hydrogen peroxide I can find here is 4%.

    It will work, it will just be slower. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:54:18
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:32:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:50:33
    Would Sea Glow be a good substitute for Retr0brite?
    http://www.amazon.com/Island-Girl-Products-Sea-Glow/dp/B0091SW9TW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408402120&sr=8-1&keywords=sea+glow+for+sneakers

    I used a solution of 10% hydrogen peroxide and a big spoon of some oxi cleaner powder, worked very well. It should be cheap and easily available, why do you want to go with something else?
    How many parts hydrogen peroxide did you use to the oxi powder? And also where did you find it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:54:47
    Unlubed 65g clears feel really sluggish on the upstroke to me. I like the feeling of unlubed clears with MX Black springs but would like it to be just a little lighter while still maintaining the snappiness. Do lubed 68g clears sound like an answer to this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:04:53
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:54:47
    Unlubed 65g clears feel really sluggish on the upstroke to me. I like the feeling of unlubed clears with MX Black springs but would like it to be just a little lighter while still maintaining the snappiness. Do lubed 68g clears sound like an answer to this?

    I have used clear stems (not sure how used they were though as I bought them second hand) with 18 month old springs from the browns in my Das with no sticking and no lube.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:17:20
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:04:53
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:54:47
    Unlubed 65g clears feel really sluggish on the upstroke to me. I like the feeling of unlubed clears with MX Black springs but would like it to be just a little lighter while still maintaining the snappiness. Do lubed 68g clears sound like an answer to this?

    I have used clear stems (not sure how used they were though as I bought them second hand) with 18 month old springs from the browns in my Das with no sticking and no lube.

    Hmm, weird. I just tried that on a couple switches and it feels like it sticks a lot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:25:54
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:17:20
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:04:53
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:54:47
    Unlubed 65g clears feel really sluggish on the upstroke to me. I like the feeling of unlubed clears with MX Black springs but would like it to be just a little lighter while still maintaining the snappiness. Do lubed 68g clears sound like an answer to this?

    I have used clear stems (not sure how used they were though as I bought them second hand) with 18 month old springs from the browns in my Das with no sticking and no lube.

    Hmm, weird. I just tried that on a couple switches and it feels like it sticks a lot.

    It's stuck for me when I tried those stock springs as well.  I've run into sticking issues all the way up to 62g springs, especially if there isn't any lube.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 19 August 2014, 04:26:12
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:54:18
    How many parts hydrogen peroxide did you use to the oxi powder? And also where did you find it?

    I don't know how much solution I had, but it was enough to bathe the upper case of my K110 and its caps in. Just add a teaspoon, it's there to provide TAED and you don't need much of it, I don't think anything bad can happen if you use too much (I did and nothing special happened).

    Edit: I got mine from a pharmacy, forgot to mention that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Tue, 19 August 2014, 05:40:28
    Quote from: Vitaly on Fri, 01 August 2014, 02:09:31
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 August 2014, 01:54:01

    Quote from: Vitaly on Fri, 01 August 2014, 01:50:26
    How to reduce noise of costar stabilizers? Stabilizer insert and spring make noise when bumping.

    Why, grease, of course. :)

    White lithium grease specifically. Applied where the metal bar meets the plastic clip.
    Thanks. I'll try to buy after work. This noise is annoying. Can I use silicone or graphite grease instead lithium?
    Silicon grease also work pretty well (I used Liqui Moly Silicon-Fett)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 August 2014, 07:59:55


    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:17:57
    Are these basically what swill used or closer to what DeeLonG has engineered onto his pcb?

    Looks like the smart 68 is using something similar to that pcb mounted dip sockets from advanced. Can't tell for sure though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 19 August 2014, 15:52:28
    Is there a guide or any info on turning an Model M 122 into an unsaver?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:38:28
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 19 August 2014, 15:52:28
    Is there a guide or any info on turning an Model M 122 into an unsaver?

    It has been done, but might have gotten lost in the R00tw0rm fiasco.

    All just hacksaw/Dremel cutting, making the case look good is the only hard part. The membranes are not cut, just folded under and tucked in around the back.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 19 August 2014, 18:19:38
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:38:28
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 19 August 2014, 15:52:28
    Is there a guide or any info on turning an Model M 122 into an unsaver?

    It has been done, but might have gotten lost in the R00tw0rm fiasco.

    All just hacksaw/Dremel cutting, making the case look good is the only hard part. The membranes are not cut, just folded under and tucked in around the back.



    ty fohat :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 19 August 2014, 18:46:47
    Anyone know the OEM for the Rapid-i by chance?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:32:02
    Anyone know what this is? Because I don't.

    (http://i.imgur.com/l3trJzH.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/hECYYRq.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/iLQVqRN.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/wpSwLCD.jpg)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:57:26
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:32:02
    Anyone know what this is? Because I don't.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/l3trJzH.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hECYYRq.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/iLQVqRN.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wpSwLCD.jpg)


    Interesting. Could you link where you found it? I suspect this is a) a new korean custom (so this is maybe a prototype) or b) a modded or custom PCB with a custom case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:21:21
    I think it was a 1-off acrylic-cased custom. Not sure if it has a name. SIGSEGV has it iirc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: absyrd on Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:23:52
    Looks like a litster case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Wed, 20 August 2014, 13:23:48
    I just ordered a duck lightpad and eagle.

    Problem is that I don't know whether to use plate mounted or pcb mounted (cherry) stabs for them. Both of them have plates

    Does it matter?

    Is there any difference?

    Which would you choose?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:12:42
    Quote from: absyrd on Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:23:52
    Looks like a litster case?

    Missing F-row.

    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Wed, 20 August 2014, 13:23:48
    1. Problem is that I don't know whether to use plate mounted or pcb mounted (cherry) stabs for them. Both of them have plates
    2. Does it matter?
    3. Is there any difference?
    4. Which would you choose?

    1. If the PCB is compatible with PCB mounted stabs then you can use both.
    2. Feel-wise, no.
    3. Yes, plate mounted stabs cannot be PCB mounted and PCB mounted stabilizers need a PCB to get mounted (so you can't use them for direct wiring projects for example and the PCB has to have the corresponding holes for them). The only difference is the base part of the stabilizer.
    4. I would go with plate mounted stabilizers since PCB mounted stabs tend to break easily.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 20 August 2014, 16:43:33
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:54:18
    How many parts hydrogen peroxide did you use to the oxi powder? And also where did you find it?

    Look for a local beauty supply store.  They will have some higher percentage H2O2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Wed, 20 August 2014, 20:08:01
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:57:26
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:32:02
    Anyone know what this is? Because I don't.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/l3trJzH.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hECYYRq.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/iLQVqRN.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wpSwLCD.jpg)


    Interesting. Could you link where you found it? I suspect this is a) a new korean custom (so this is maybe a prototype) or b) a modded or custom PCB with a custom case.

    Found it on OTD (http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=album&wr_id=186760&sca=&sfl=mb_id%2C1&stx=sjhole).

    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:21:21
    I think it was a 1-off acrylic-cased custom. Not sure if it has a name. SIGSEGV has it iirc.

    Looks like it. I'd ask him about it, but I don't speak Korean.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Thu, 21 August 2014, 10:58:59
    my spacebar (clipped cherry stabs) have a nice "thock" when i bottom it out on the right side. but when i use the left side of the spacebar, it rattles like hell. it's a corsair K70 keyboard. does anyone know how to fix this? lubed the stabs and nothing changed
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Thu, 21 August 2014, 11:03:02
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:12:42


    1. If the PCB is compatible with PCB mounted stabs then you can use both.
    2. Feel-wise, no.
    3. Yes, plate mounted stabs cannot be PCB mounted and PCB mounted stabilizers need a PCB to get mounted (so you can't use them for direct wiring projects for example and the PCB has to have the corresponding holes for them). The only difference is the base part of the stabilizer.
    4. I would go with plate mounted stabilizers since PCB mounted stabs tend to break easily.

    Ahh cool. So I suppose plate mounted switches would be the safer choice on most keyboards with a plate then
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 11:04:41
    Quote from: frosty on Thu, 21 August 2014, 10:58:59
    my spacebar (clipped cherry stabs) have a nice "thock" when i bottom it out on the right side. but when i use the left side of the spacebar, it rattles like hell. it's a corsair K70 keyboard. does anyone know how to fix this? lubed the stabs and nothing changed

    Make sure the stabilizer wire is seated correctly in its base.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 August 2014, 12:17:26
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 19 August 2014, 18:46:47
    Anyone know the OEM for the Rapid-i by chance?
    Don't think we'll find out until someone does a teardown. Is there a teardown or there already?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 15:48:29
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:57:26
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:32:02
    Anyone know what this is? Because I don't.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/l3trJzH.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hECYYRq.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/iLQVqRN.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wpSwLCD.jpg)


    Interesting. Could you link where you found it? I suspect this is a) a new korean custom (so this is maybe a prototype) or b) a modded or custom PCB with a custom case.
    Does it exist any keyboard like this? I mean layout and size (i like 60% but it misses a lack of dedicated arrows, and TKL, F1, F2 etc are rather useless for my use...)
    It looks really good

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:29:00
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 15:48:29
    Does it exist any keyboard like this? I mean layout and size (i like 60% but it misses a lack of dedicated arrows, and TKL, F1, F2 etc are rather useless for my use...)
    It looks really good

    Not to my knowledge.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:38:07
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:29:00
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 15:48:29
    Does it exist any keyboard like this? I mean layout and size (i like 60% but it misses a lack of dedicated arrows, and TKL, F1, F2 etc are rather useless for my use...)
    It looks really good

    Not to my knowledge.

    @ajx: You are looking for this:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59827.msg1375092#msg1375092

    I think Matt3o might be doing another run of these at some point, but I think this is the holy grail you are searching for...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:44:03
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:38:07
    I think Matt3o might be doing another run of these at some point, but I think this is the holy grail you are searching for...

    That's a homemade PCB with handdrawn wires (whats the correct word for that again?), I don't think he made more than one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:47:02
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:44:03
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:38:07
    I think Matt3o might be doing another run of these at some point, but I think this is the holy grail you are searching for...

    That's a homemade PCB with handdrawn wires (whats the correct word for that again?), I don't think he made more than one.

    Yes, it is hand wired.  When I talked to him last I think he is considering doing a very small run of the plate + case.  It would still require that you hand wire the keyboard and add your own controller and such.  Take the plunge and be a maker...  :P

    Edit: If he does a run of these, I will be building mine with the Enabler PCBs... 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:52:12
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:38:07
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:29:00
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 15:48:29
    Does it exist any keyboard like this? I mean layout and size (i like 60% but it misses a lack of dedicated arrows, and TKL, F1, F2 etc are rather useless for my use...)
    It looks really good

    Not to my knowledge.

    @ajx: You are looking for this:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59827.msg1375092#msg1375092

    I think Matt3o might be doing another run of these at some point, but I think this is the holy grail you are searching for...

    I am looking for commercial and ready-to-use keyboard  :p
    I was planning to buy TKL until i saw this beauty on this thread, damn sexy and seems to be very pratical as layout
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 17:03:45
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:52:12
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:38:07
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:29:00
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 15:48:29
    Does it exist any keyboard like this? I mean layout and size (i like 60% but it misses a lack of dedicated arrows, and TKL, F1, F2 etc are rather useless for my use...)
    It looks really good

    Not to my knowledge.

    @ajx: You are looking for this:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59827.msg1375092#msg1375092

    I think Matt3o might be doing another run of these at some point, but I think this is the holy grail you are searching for...

    I am looking for commercial and ready-to-use keyboard  :p
    I was planning to buy TKL until i saw this beauty on this thread, damn sexy and seems to be very pratical as layout

    Fair enough.  I totally understand.  :)

    Edit: You may want to consider a 75% layout.  There are commercial and ready-to-use options for the 75% which you might be interested in. 

    Here are a few options (I am only linking to banggood because it is easy to link there, you can buy from other places):
    http://www.banggood.com/KBT-KBTalking-RACE2-75-Mini82-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-Brown-p-934708.html
    http://www.banggood.com/KEYCOOL-84-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Red-Switch-p-81183.html

    Here is my custom made 75% which I built from a Sprit PCB.
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58969.0;attach=73293;image)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 17:05:32
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 15:48:29
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:57:26
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:32:02
    Anyone know what this is? Because I don't.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/l3trJzH.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hECYYRq.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/iLQVqRN.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wpSwLCD.jpg)


    Interesting. Could you link where you found it? I suspect this is a) a new korean custom (so this is maybe a prototype) or b) a modded or custom PCB with a custom case.
    Does it exist any keyboard like this? I mean layout and size (i like 60% but it misses a lack of dedicated arrows, and TKL, F1, F2 etc are rather useless for my use...)
    It looks really good
    wouldn't a leopold fc660 work for that? No function row, but with dedicated arrow keys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 18:27:35
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 17:05:32
    wouldn't a leopold fc660 work for that? No function row, but with dedicated arrow keys

    Lacks the cluster above the arrow keys though. If those are not needed, it's a good suggestion though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 21:42:14
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 17:05:32
    wouldn't a leopold fc660 work for that? No function row, but with dedicated arrow keys

    Yes, that is a good suggestion. I love the layout of my FC660C. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:47:12
    Spherical top Cherry profile doubleshots?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 22 August 2014, 05:57:44
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:47:12
    Spherical top Cherry profile doubleshots?

    If you're asking if such a thing exists, I don't think so.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 07:22:27
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 22 August 2014, 05:57:44
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:47:12
    Spherical top Cherry profile doubleshots?

    If you're asking if such a thing exists, I don't think so.

    I don't think so either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Fri, 22 August 2014, 11:32:18
    I've stuck some soft packaging foam into the slots of the casing for my pure and i'm still getting a bit of chattering on the "h" key...

    hh h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h hh h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h

    Any ideas for this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 11:33:18
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Fri, 22 August 2014, 11:32:18
    I've stuck some soft packaging foam into the slots of the casing for my pure and i'm still getting a bit of chattering on the "h" key...

    hh h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h hh h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h

    Any ideas for this?

    I've found that foam doesn't work as well as drawer liner. Perhaps try using drawer liner instead? And check your "H" key's solder joints.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 22 August 2014, 13:57:02
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Fri, 22 August 2014, 11:32:18
    I've stuck some soft packaging foam into the slots

    Soft fabric such as felt works well and is non-conductive.

    Instead of stuffing it in at random, cut strips and roll them into cylinders to fit each space.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:05:00
    As some may have noticed a few pages back, I asked about that red Cherry keycap holder.

    I'm essentially looking to achieve something universally better than any other option for storage of sets (as well as a version for novelties), and I think the SP plungers might be the best option to do something custom.

    My simple question is, so I know how many plungers to order, is what is the average number of keycaps for sets? Using the keycap sheets as a sort of base for permutations, it appears ~127 is a general total (not including ErgoDox). Would I be safer with 150?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:08:07


    Quote from: divito on Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:05:00
    My simple question is, so I know how many plungers to order, is what is the average number of keycaps for sets? Using the keycap sheets as a sort of base for permutations, it appears ~127 is a general total (not including ErgoDox). Would I be safer with 150?

    I think that keycap sheet is a generally solid guide. 127 would work and 150 would be really conservative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:16:31
    Given the small price difference, I just went with 150 and that gives me a little leeway to experiment. Hopefully this leads to awesome things in the near future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:20:16
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 17:03:45
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:52:12
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:38:07
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:29:00
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 15:48:29
    Does it exist any keyboard like this? I mean layout and size (i like 60% but it misses a lack of dedicated arrows, and TKL, F1, F2 etc are rather useless for my use...)
    It looks really good

    Not to my knowledge.

    @ajx: You are looking for this:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59827.msg1375092#msg1375092

    I think Matt3o might be doing another run of these at some point, but I think this is the holy grail you are searching for...

    I am looking for commercial and ready-to-use keyboard  :p
    I was planning to buy TKL until i saw this beauty on this thread, damn sexy and seems to be very pratical as layout

    Fair enough.  I totally understand.  :)

    Edit: You may want to consider a 75% layout.  There are commercial and ready-to-use options for the 75% which you might be interested in. 

    Here are a few options (I am only linking to banggood because it is easy to link there, you can buy from other places):
    http://www.banggood.com/KBT-KBTalking-RACE2-75-Mini82-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-Brown-p-934708.html
    http://www.banggood.com/KEYCOOL-84-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Red-Switch-p-81183.html

    Here is my custom made 75% which I built from a Sprit PCB.
    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58969.0;attach=73293;image)

    It looks like hum... ;D
    Sorry i like standard and basic layout  :p
    But kinda funny and lovely keyboard you ve showed there
    I am fairly hesitating between TKL such as KUL and Ducky SHine 3 TKL >:D
    (backlit vs KUL quality  :-[)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:34:34
    Quote from: ajx on Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:20:16
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 17:03:45
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:52:12
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:38:07
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 21 August 2014, 16:29:00
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 21 August 2014, 15:48:29
    Does it exist any keyboard like this? I mean layout and size (i like 60% but it misses a lack of dedicated arrows, and TKL, F1, F2 etc are rather useless for my use...)
    It looks really good

    Not to my knowledge.

    @ajx: You are looking for this:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59827.msg1375092#msg1375092

    I think Matt3o might be doing another run of these at some point, but I think this is the holy grail you are searching for...

    I am looking for commercial and ready-to-use keyboard  :p
    I was planning to buy TKL until i saw this beauty on this thread, damn sexy and seems to be very pratical as layout

    Fair enough.  I totally understand.  :)

    Edit: You may want to consider a 75% layout.  There are commercial and ready-to-use options for the 75% which you might be interested in. 

    Here are a few options (I am only linking to banggood because it is easy to link there, you can buy from other places):
    http://www.banggood.com/KBT-KBTalking-RACE2-75-Mini82-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-Brown-p-934708.html
    http://www.banggood.com/KEYCOOL-84-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Red-Switch-p-81183.html

    Here is my custom made 75% which I built from a Sprit PCB.
    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58969.0;attach=73293;image)

    It looks like hum... ;D
    Sorry i like standard and basic layout  :p
    But kinda funny and lovely keyboard you ve showed there
    I am fairly hesitating between TKL such as KUL and Ducky SHine 3 TKL >:D
    (backlit vs KUL quality  :-[)
    I have found that backlighted keyboards are nice but the novelty & usefulness get's old pretty quick along with the keycaps (shine-wear-limited). From the reviews I've seen the KUL is a good choice and if you upgrade the caps most standard TKL sets fit, but that's up to you, I would get the KUL vs the Ducky S3.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:54:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 07:22:27
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 22 August 2014, 05:57:44
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:47:12
    Spherical top Cherry profile doubleshots?

    If you're asking if such a thing exists, I don't think so.

    I don't think so either.

    What about spherical top OEM or DCS profile doubelshots?

    Any profile except DSA or SA/HP spherical top doubleshot MX. Just a 'regular' profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 19:34:36
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:54:15
    Spherical top OEM or DCS profile doubelshots?

    Any profile except DSA or SA/HP spherical top doubleshot MX. Just a 'regular' profile.

    I don't think I've ever heard of a spherical top OEM or DCS profile that's currently made. Might be able to salvage some off of some old boards that would fit MX but I wouldn't know where to start looking.

    Quote from: ajx on Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:20:16
    I am fairly hesitating between TKL such as KUL and Ducky SHine 3 TKL >:D
    (backlit vs KUL quality  :-[)

    I tried a KUL finally over the weekend. I liked it but I think I still prefer the Ducky Shine 3 slightly. Don't think you'd be unhappy with either choice though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuiop on Fri, 22 August 2014, 19:42:47
    Quote from: combataran on Wed, 20 August 2014, 11:32:02
    Anyone know what this is? Because I don't.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/l3trJzH.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hECYYRq.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/iLQVqRN.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wpSwLCD.jpg)




    Looks like LimKB.  Those were made quite a while ago @ OTD.  Not a popular layout so they are kinda rare.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 August 2014, 19:50:12
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:54:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 07:22:27
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 22 August 2014, 05:57:44
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:47:12
    Spherical top Cherry profile doubleshots?

    If you're asking if such a thing exists, I don't think so.

    I don't think so either.

    What about spherical top OEM or DCS profile doubelshots?

    Any profile except DSA or SA/HP spherical top doubleshot MX. Just a 'regular' profile.

    I don't quite get it. SA and DSA are by definition spherical. DCS is cylindrical. OEM vary by manufacturer, but are understood to be standard height, cylindrical sculptured profile.

    FYI, something I kinda figured out from SP's naming conventions:

    Dxx = low profile
    Sx = spherical
    Cx = cylindrical
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 22 August 2014, 19:50:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 19:34:36
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:54:15
    Spherical top OEM or DCS profile doubelshots?

    Any profile except DSA or SA/HP spherical top doubleshot MX. Just a 'regular' profile.

    I don't think I've ever heard of a spherical top OEM or DCS profile that's currently made. Might be able to salvage some off of some old boards that would fit MX but I wouldn't know where to start looking.


    Damn, that's a shame. They feel so good on the finger tips, but are always on some messed up cap profile. Might be a nice idea for a groupbuy though.
    Just think about it: PBT doubleshots with Cherry legends and fingey cupping sphericals....   :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 20:48:14


    Quote from: noisyturtle on Fri, 22 August 2014, 19:50:18
    Damn, that's a shame. They feel so good on the finger tips, but are always on some messed up cap profile. Might be a nice idea for a groupbuy though.
    Just think about it: PBT doubleshots with Cherry legends and fingey cupping sphericals....   :eek:

    You lost me at PBT
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rewind on Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:26:30
    Why can't I find a WoB doubleshot cherry set in wkl 1800 layout? :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:28:48
    Quote from: Rewind on Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:26:30
    Why can't I find a WoB doubleshot cherry set in wkl 1800 layout? :(

    Guess you're not looking hard enough? I don't know why you can't find what you want.

    More seriously, I found a new in package G81-1800 with that layout for $37 shipped on eBay. I think you could do the same thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rewind on Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:52:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:28:48
    Quote from: Rewind on Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:26:30
    Why can't I find a WoB doubleshot cherry set in wkl 1800 layout? :(

    Guess you're not looking hard enough? I don't know why you can't find what you want.

    More seriously, I found a new in package G81-1800 with that layout for $37 shipped on eBay. I think you could do the same thing.
    I sent you a PM.

    I think I just can't eBay. I've been searching for weeks.

    Is there anything more I can do apart from searching worldwide and sorting by newly listed?

    Cheers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:00:12
    Quote from: Rewind on Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:52:22
    I think I just can't eBay. I've been searching for weeks.

    Is there anything more I can do apart from searching worldwide and sorting by newly listed?

    Patience. Weeks? I looked for months.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:06:44
    Winkeyless wob 1800s aren't that common. Don't expect to find stuff like that instantly. Hell, I searched over 9 months for a particular keyset.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 23 August 2014, 07:21:48

    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:06:44
    Winkeyless wob 1800s aren't that common. Don't expect to find stuff like that instantly. Hell, I searched over 9 months for a particular keyset.

    What about BoW 1800s?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 August 2014, 09:29:37


    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 23 August 2014, 07:21:48

    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:06:44
    Winkeyless wob 1800s aren't that common. Don't expect to find stuff like that instantly. Hell, I searched over 9 months for a particular keyset.

    What about BoW 1800s?

    Same thing, they're not that common and you'll be hunting for a while.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rewind on Sat, 23 August 2014, 09:38:36
    Thanks for the info guys. I was under the impression that wob ds wkl 1800 was really common!

    Not in a hurry so I'll keep hunting :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 August 2014, 10:24:29
    I'm considering sandpapering the f and j keys on my bsp biege set because I really dislike the dots.  So I want to attempt to create a kind of scoop effect with sandpaper.  Is this a good idea?  I have 240 and 120 grit sandpaper. 

    Also I can't fit my right shift on my Filco, a solution to this I saw somewhere is to sandpaper the insides so it will fit the costar stabilizer, I can't find the thread now though, anyone remember this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 August 2014, 10:47:46
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 August 2014, 10:24:29
    1) I'm considering sandpapering the f and j keys on my bsp biege set because I really dislike the dots.  So I want to attempt to create a kind of scoop effect with sandpaper.  Is this a good idea?  I have 240 and 120 grit sandpaper. 

    2) Also I can't fit my right shift on my Filco, a solution to this I saw somewhere is to sandpaper the insides so it will fit the costar stabilizer, I can't find the thread now though, anyone remember this?

    1) I don't see why it'd be an issue. Just go slow and make sure you have enough material left. And I wonder how deep the dyesub goes down.

    2) Not sure, maybe this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48491.0)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 23 August 2014, 12:29:21
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 August 2014, 10:24:29
    I'm considering sandpapering the f and j keys on my bsp biege set because I really dislike the dots.  So I want to attempt to create a kind of scoop effect with sandpaper.  Is this a good idea?  I have 240 and 120 grit sandpaper.

    Be aware that you can't undo this and for replacement keys you would have to buy a new set. The texture and feeling of the keys might also change.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sat, 23 August 2014, 13:32:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 August 2014, 09:29:37


    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 23 August 2014, 07:21:48

    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:06:44
    Winkeyless wob 1800s aren't that common. Don't expect to find stuff like that instantly. Hell, I searched over 9 months for a particular keyset.

    What about BoW 1800s?

    Same thing, they're not that common and you'll be hunting for a while.

    And would it be correct to assume that the 3000s would be less rare then?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 August 2014, 13:33:51
    Quote from: combataran on Sat, 23 August 2014, 13:32:33
    And would it be correct to assume that the 3000s would be less rare then?

    As far as I can tell, it's about the same. Pretty sure that photekq and the other Cherry keyset hunters are out looking for a while. Took me ages to find a set for my 3000 build. Hunting vintage anything typically takes a while.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 24 August 2014, 09:17:50
    Hey Cap, does your Kingsaver sound like this?

    They sound amazing.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 August 2014, 09:24:23
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 24 August 2014, 09:17:50
    Hey Cap, does your Kingsaver sound like this?

    They sound amazing.

    Not a valid youtube URL

    Your embed didn't work but my Kingsaver sounds like this:

    From my Kingsaver review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58776.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 August 2014, 11:50:25
    mmmmmmm

    clicky ALPS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 24 August 2014, 12:07:05
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 24 August 2014, 11:50:25
    mmmmmmm

    clicky ALPS

    I fully endorse this statement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Roibhilin on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:06:36
    how do i get my Poker to display a tilde? it can only do a `
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:07:20
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:06:36
    how do i get my Poker to display a tilde? it can only do a `

    It's Shift + ` to make ~

    So according to the manual, you'd hit FN+SHIFT+ESC
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 26 August 2014, 15:33:23
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:06:36
    how do i get my Poker to display a tilde? it can only do a `

    This confused me at first also. 

    Hold down shift and press  fn   then  hit  `
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 26 August 2014, 23:20:19
    Anyone have experience powdercoating aluminum cases? Thinking about getting a silver lightpad and powdercoating it black because it seems that black lightpads are pretty much unobtanium atm. Just a little nervous about how the color will compare to my black Viper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 26 August 2014, 23:47:21
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 26 August 2014, 23:20:19
    Anyone have experience powdercoating aluminum cases? Thinking about getting a silver lightpad and powdercoating it black because it seems that black lightpads are pretty much unobtanium atm. Just a little nervous about how the color will compare to my black Viper.

    I haven't done an aluminum case but I did have a batch of GH special edition panavise parts powdered.  They were 308 cast aluminum and it was no problem.  They turned out amazing.  The shop I used was Rainbow Paint and Blast in Cedar Rapids, IA.  Tammi at the shop has an amazing talent and is awesome to work with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 26 August 2014, 23:51:16
    You can also probably get the silver one reanodyzed in black, as an alternative to powdercoating.

    Normally I'd fret about the reanodyzation process making it weird (like eating away too much metal and making it hard to assemble) but I've heard about other GH'ers reanodyzing their keyboards with no problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 26 August 2014, 23:52:08
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 26 August 2014, 23:20:19
    Anyone have experience powdercoating aluminum cases? Thinking about getting a silver lightpad and powdercoating it black because it seems that black lightpads are pretty much unobtanium atm. Just a little nervous about how the color will compare to my black Viper.

    Why not reanodize it?  I'm sure black is a common color and with something that small, you might be able to get a local shop to anodize it with another black order.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 26 August 2014, 23:59:21
    I would probably prefer reanodization to powdercoating, the only problem is I don't know where I'd have it done. There is a local place that does powdercoat work but I don't know of anywhere near that can do anodizing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:26:49
    what profile are the new poker 2 caps in (new poker 2 as in the batches without the ugly phrase on the spacebar)
    here are pictures of mine.
    [attach=1]
    [attach=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:27:25
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:26:49
    what profile are the new poker 2 caps in (new poker 2 as in the batches without the ugly phrase on the spacebar)
    here are pictures of mine.
    (Attachment Link)
    (Attachment Link)

    I believe they're OEM.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:32:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:27:25
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:26:49
    what profile are the new poker 2 caps in (new poker 2 as in the batches without the ugly phrase on the spacebar)
    here are pictures of mine.
    (Attachment Link)
    (Attachment Link)

    I believe they're OEM.

    i have edited the post and now the second picture shows. someone told me they were cherry profile after i've complain numerous times that i've been making a hell lot more mistakes on this poker vs other boards with oem caps. so, does the second picture now show it's profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:38:38
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:32:25
    i have edited the post and now the second picture shows. someone told me they were cherry profile after i've complain numerous times that i've been making a hell lot more mistakes on this poker vs other boards with oem caps. so, does the second picture now show it's profile?

    OEM is a bit of a misleading term in my opinion. When people say OEM, they are describing the huge tall profiles that companies like Vortex or Ducky make but I've have completely flat OEM caps from Leopold on my FC700R. So I still believe they are OEM, but not the typical tall OEM that you're thinking of.

    They might be similar to the Cherry profile but I can't tell without a Cherry or GMK cap side by side.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:50:21
    Anyone know where to get 28/24 awg usb wire? that is 100ft or less.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:51:56
    Quote from: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:50:21
    Anyone know where to get 28/24 awg usb wire? that is 100ft or less.

    Microcenter is the first place that comes to mind for me. Maybe a hobby supply store? Or maybe Radio Shack if you're lucky enough to have a Radio Shack that still carries electrical supply stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:57:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:51:56
    Quote from: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:50:21
    Anyone know where to get 28/24 awg usb wire? that is 100ft or less.

    Microcenter is the first place that comes to mind for me. Maybe a hobby supply store? Or maybe Radio Shack if you're lucky enough to have a Radio Shack that still carries electrical supply stuff.
    I can only find some chinese websites that have it but doesnt seem like something that could be proxied like taobao.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:59:18
    Quote from: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:57:54
    I can only find some chinese websites that have it but doesnt seem like something that could be proxied like taobao.

    You don't have a Hobby store in town? A place that sells like RC cars and helicopters? Or you could ask someone to proxy you some from a Microcenter.

    The usual suspects don't turn anything up either? Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware, local hardware store, etc etc.

    Amazon and eBay can't help you either?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:07:36
    Im looking for raw usb wire at 40$ or less.
    I searched amazon and I found more than 100ft and it ships in like a month.
    I searched ebay kept finding already made usb cable and raw cat5-6 cable
    I found a website that had 100ft at 40~ but out of stock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:08:04
    Quote from: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:07:36
    Im looking for raw usb wire at 40$ or less.
    I searched amazon and I found more than 100ft and it ships in like a month.
    I searched ebay kept finding already made usb cable and raw cat5-6 cable
    I found a website that had 100ft at 40~ but out of stock.

    What about Monoprice?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:11:06
    yep yep unless im bad at searching all i see is CAT wire unless i could use that  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:15:50
    Quote from: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:11:06
    yep yep unless im bad at searching all i see is CAT wire unless i could use that  :rolleyes:

    Quote from: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:07:36
    Im looking for raw usb wire at 40$ or less.

    What exactly are you trying to do anyways? Are you looking for a USB cable or just some wire to jump your keyboard or what? I don't think there's such a thing as special USB wire. I think it's the terminations are how the cables work together that make up a USB cable. I could be wrong, I'm not an EE.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:20:01
    I'm just trying to make my own custom USB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:21:02
    Quote from: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:20:01
    I'm just trying to make my own custom USB.

    So why not buy a USB cable from somewhere and just cut that apart?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:44:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:21:02
    Quote from: appleonama on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:20:01
    I'm just trying to make my own custom USB.

    So why not buy a USB cable from somewhere and just cut that apart?

    I think he's just trying to create 'many' custom usb cables that's why he is searching for a supplier for the wire and other parts. Buying a usb cable and cutting it apart won't suffice to his needs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 27 August 2014, 14:56:33
    I should really know this by now, but how do you know if a plate is costar-stab-compatible?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:00:25
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 27 August 2014, 14:56:33
    I should really know this by now, but how do you know if a plate is costar-stab-compatible?

    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41464.0;attach=19234;image)
    image from GH60 thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828888#msg828888)

    Look at the stabilizer cutouts carefully. The Costar cutouts are much thinner and longer versus the Cherry ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:08:02
    Thanks Cap'n! So is it safe to assume that if a plate is costar compatible then it is also cherry compatible? Or is that just the GH60?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:10:38
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:08:02
    Thanks Cap'n! So is it safe to assume that if a plate is costar compatible then it is also cherry compatible? Or is that just the GH60?

    No, the cutouts need to be specially cut like that. Typically you'll see one or the other, not both. For example, my KMAC plate only supports Cherry stabilizers.

    It does seem like a very easy mod would be take a Cherry compatible plate and cut the Costar notches into it. A little more work going the other way.

    Not sure why more custom plates don't have both cutouts like the GH60 though. Maybe extra cost due to processing time?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:12:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:10:38
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:08:02
    Thanks Cap'n! So is it safe to assume that if a plate is costar compatible then it is also cherry compatible? Or is that just the GH60?

    No, the cutouts need to be specially cut like that. Typically you'll see one or the other, not both. For example, my KMAC plate only supports Cherry stabilizers.

    It does seem like a very easy mod would be take a Cherry compatible plate and cut the Costar notches into it. A little more work going the other way.

    Not sure why more custom plates don't have both cutouts like the GH60 though. Maybe extra cost due to processing time?
    Oh~ I see, alright, thank you. :]

    Meh, as for why more custom plates aren't both, I blame Korea's obsession with cherry stabs, hahahaha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:16:34
    That small tab on the top part of the stab cutout is the only extra space required for costar stab to fit in a Cherry stab compatible cutout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:22:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:00:25
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 27 August 2014, 14:56:33
    I should really know this by now, but how do you know if a plate is costar-stab-compatible?

    Show Image
    (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41464.0;attach=19234;image)

    image from GH60 thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828888#msg828888)

    Look at the stabilizer cutouts carefully. The Costar cutouts are much thinner and longer versus the Cherry ones.

    Quote from: MOZ on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:16:34
    That small tab on the top part of the stab cutout is the only extra space required for costar stab to fit in a Cherry stab compatible cutout.

    Right. Thanks for making that much clearer. Re-reading my post and it's a little misleading.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Wed, 27 August 2014, 22:23:12
    Took a look at SP's profile sheets, but I don't see height dimensions on the most sculpted caps.

    What's the absolute height of SA profile row 1 caps for someone who has SA caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 28 August 2014, 00:54:23
    I read something the other week about taking the yellow off ABS caps.
    The thread concluded that _______ works even better than hydrogen peroxide.
    There was a brand that used it but you could just get the chemical from a pharmacy or whatever.
    I'm fairly certain it was not Retr0brite as that is essentially hydrogen peroxide.

    Please help me remember what ____ is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 05:47:20
    Quote from: taylordcraig on Thu, 28 August 2014, 00:54:23
    I read something the other week about taking the yellow off ABS caps.
    The thread concluded that _______ works even better than hydrogen peroxide.
    There was a brand that used it but you could just get the chemical from a pharmacy or whatever.
    I'm fairly certain it was not Retr0brite as that is essentially hydrogen peroxide.

    Please help me remember what ____ is.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61901.10

    ??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 28 August 2014, 10:49:38
    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 05:47:20
    Quote from: taylordcraig on Thu, 28 August 2014, 00:54:23
    I read something the other week about taking the yellow off ABS caps.
    The thread concluded that _______ works even better than hydrogen peroxide.
    There was a brand that used it but you could just get the chemical from a pharmacy or whatever.
    I'm fairly certain it was not Retr0brite as that is essentially hydrogen peroxide.

    Please help me remember what ____ is.

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61901.10

    ??

    No it wasn't hydrogen peroxide. It was a different chemical that actually worked better...
    Argh I really wish I could remember. Time to scour my browser history.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:05:15
    Lysol recommended coffee machine cleaner.

    I want to try it but have not found any yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:12:11
    What is a good active PS/2 to USB adapter? Many of them on Amazon had bad reviews for being sent generics instead of the real thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:20:18
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:12:11
    What is a good active PS/2 to USB adapter? Many of them on Amazon had bad reviews for being sent generics instead of the real thing.

    There is one that Techkeys and geekhackers.org carries that I recommend using. I have a few and I've never been disappointed with them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 28 August 2014, 16:57:35
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:12:11
    What is a good active PS/2 to USB adapter? Many of them on Amazon had bad reviews for being sent generics instead of the real thing.

    GeekHackers.org  also carries them right now for a real good price,

    http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/id-innovations-ps2-to-usb-adapter (http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/id-innovations-ps2-to-usb-adapter)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 17:15:42
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 28 August 2014, 16:57:35
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:12:11
    What is a good active PS/2 to USB adapter? Many of them on Amazon had bad reviews for being sent generics instead of the real thing.

    GeekHackers.org  also carries them right now for a real good price,

    http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/id-innovations-ps2-to-usb-adapter (http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/id-innovations-ps2-to-usb-adapter)

    +1 vote for these - I have used one to successfully use my 1980s NEC AT keyboard (with a generic AT to PS/2 adaptor) working on my Mac.

    If that combination works, I guess almost anything else would.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 17:26:22
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 28 August 2014, 16:57:35
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:12:11
    What is a good active PS/2 to USB adapter? Many of them on Amazon had bad reviews for being sent generics instead of the real thing.

    GeekHackers.org  also carries them right now for a real good price,

    http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/id-innovations-ps2-to-usb-adapter (http://www.geekhackers.org/collections/keyboard-accessories/products/id-innovations-ps2-to-usb-adapter)

    +1 vote for these - I have used one to successfully use my 1980s NEC AT keyboard (with a generic AT to PS/2 adaptor) working on my Mac.

    If that combination works, I guess almost anything else would.

    Edit: Also, sorry for the double-post, I was getting gateway timeout with no idea if the post was getting through or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 19:18:50
    yeah the 503 error is back

    it was good for a few months but not so much anymore
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 August 2014, 21:13:21
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 28 August 2014, 19:18:50
    yeah the 503 error is back

    it was good for a few months but not so much anymore

    You mean 504? :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 22:06:50
    well it's back and it's not good
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 29 August 2014, 12:35:36
    1372 Guests, 632 Users (1 Buddy, 58 Hidden). what is normal user load?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 12:36:50
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 29 August 2014, 12:35:36
    1372 Guests, 632 Users (1 Buddy, 58 Hidden). what is normal user load?

    That's a really good question. Isn't here a service that would show that? Like I thought you could check that on say your Amazon AWS settings if you have something hosted on their servers? Or maybe one of the admins has access to that? I honestly don't know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 29 August 2014, 13:26:22
    I check this a lot

    during peak hours, I see about 1700 users on, during late night hours, generally 1k to 1.3k

    During CC sales it tends towards the 2k/2.1k numeral

    The peak users (three-thousand something) happened on a totally random day.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 15:55:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 12:36:50
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 29 August 2014, 12:35:36
    1372 Guests, 632 Users (1 Buddy, 58 Hidden). what is normal user load?

    That's a really good question. Isn't here a service that would show that? Like I thought you could check that on say your Amazon AWS settings if you have something hosted on their servers? Or maybe one of the admins has access to that? I honestly don't know.

    While your on this subject, in the breakdown e.g. 1372 Guests, 632 Users (1 Buddy, 58 Hidden). What are the Hidden and Buddy's?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 29 August 2014, 16:18:08
    hidden users are users that checked "hide my session this time" when they logged in. I'm not 100% sure that that's what the box says but it's close enough

    Buddies are users on your buddy list
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:35:36
    Does anyone know what switches TI Silent 700's used?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:08:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:35:36
    Does anyone know what switches TI Silent 700's used?

    I found some user manuals:

    - http://bit.ly/1u7hOqj
    - http://bit.ly/Z16kez
    - http://bit.ly/1wPWlaT

    One of which told me they should have 2KRO. I couldn't find anything specific that says what exact switch they are...but Dorkvader has this TI 911 Video Terminal (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157640094078524/) and perhaps he could tell you what switches are in those pictures. Perhaps they're the same switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:13:03
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:35:36
    Does anyone know what switches TI Silent 700's used?

    Haata has one. hall effect and a doubleshot spacebar

    CPT got to see one at keycon!

    edit: here's a picture:
    https://plus.google.com/photos/113845661925823397356/albums/5697915804152137793

    They sometimes go for cheap on eBay. I'll get one one of these days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:14:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:08:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:35:36
    Does anyone know what switches TI Silent 700's used?

    I found some user manuals:

    - http://bit.ly/1u7hOqj
    - http://bit.ly/Z16kez
    - http://bit.ly/1wPWlaT

    One of which told me they should have 2KRO. I couldn't find anything specific that says what exact switch they are...but Dorkvader has this TI 911 Video Terminal (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157640094078524/) and perhaps he could tell you what switches are in those pictures. Perhaps they're the same switch?
    If it were Hi-Teks I would definitely be pleased
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:15:23
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:13:03
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:35:36
    Does anyone know what switches TI Silent 700's used?

    Haata has one. hall effect and a doubleshot spacebar

    CPT got to see one at keycon!

    edit: here's a picture:
    https://plus.google.com/photos/113845661925823397356/albums/5697915804152137793

    I was totally going to guess hall effect and no one ever told me the model name.


    I'd love to have a full 700 setup, that little thermo paper printer and the keyboard is so cute.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:15:32
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:14:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:08:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:35:36
    Does anyone know what switches TI Silent 700's used?

    I found some user manuals:

    - http://bit.ly/1u7hOqj
    - http://bit.ly/Z16kez
    - http://bit.ly/1wPWlaT

    One of which told me they should have 2KRO. I couldn't find anything specific that says what exact switch they are...but Dorkvader has this TI 911 Video Terminal (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157640094078524/) and perhaps he could tell you what switches are in those pictures. Perhaps they're the same switch?
    If it were Hi-Teks I would definitely be pleased
    That ti 911 video terminal is horrible to type on hitek / stackpole switches are way worse than hitek spaceinvaders.


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:15:23
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:13:03
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:35:36
    Does anyone know what switches TI Silent 700's used?

    Haata has one. hall effect and a doubleshot spacebar

    CPT got to see one at keycon!

    edit: here's a picture:
    https://plus.google.com/photos/113845661925823397356/albums/5697915804152137793

    I was totally going to guess hall effect and no one ever told me the model name.
    Yeah, you can tell it's hall effect by looking at it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:17:43
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:15:32
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:14:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:08:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:35:36
    Does anyone know what switches TI Silent 700's used?

    I found some user manuals:

    - http://bit.ly/1u7hOqj
    - http://bit.ly/Z16kez
    - http://bit.ly/1wPWlaT

    One of which told me they should have 2KRO. I couldn't find anything specific that says what exact switch they are...but Dorkvader has this TI 911 Video Terminal (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157640094078524/) and perhaps he could tell you what switches are in those pictures. Perhaps they're the same switch?
    If it were Hi-Teks I would definitely be pleased
    That ti 911 video terminal is horrible to type on hitek / stackpole switches are way worse than hitek spaceinvaders.


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:15:23
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:13:03
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:35:36
    Does anyone know what switches TI Silent 700's used?

    Haata has one. hall effect and a doubleshot spacebar

    CPT got to see one at keycon!

    edit: here's a picture:
    https://plus.google.com/photos/113845661925823397356/albums/5697915804152137793

    I was totally going to guess hall effect and no one ever told me the model name.
    Yeah, you can tell it's hall effect by looking at it.
    Well looks like I'm gonna throw some money at that, get me some more hall effecty goodness :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:18:26
    keep in mind that not all silent 700's had hall effect.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Vintage-Minicomputer-Portable-Teletype-Printing-Terminal-TI-Silent-700-KSR-/371132246288?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566934a910
    ^this one does.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Texas-Instruments-Silent-700-Data-Terminal-Model-707-/201144568077?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item2ed526890d
    ^this one does not

    TI's silent 700 line lasted for a while and had a lot of different models in it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:19:37
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:18:26
    keep in mind that not all silent 700's had hall effect.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Vintage-Minicomputer-Portable-Teletype-Printing-Terminal-TI-Silent-700-KSR-/371132246288?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566934a910
    ^this one does.
    that'd be the one :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:20:41
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:18:26
    keep in mind that not all silent 700's had hall effect.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Vintage-Minicomputer-Portable-Teletype-Printing-Terminal-TI-Silent-700-KSR-/371132246288?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566934a910
    ^this one does.

    Big ups to the two of you for bringing this to my attention. I know what I'm adding to my wishlist now. I want that full thing working!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:21:10
    It takes a lot to get a hall effect KB on eBay past my filters. I'll keep my hands off this one if you're serious about getting it.
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:20:41
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:18:26
    keep in mind that not all silent 700's had hall effect.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Vintage-Minicomputer-Portable-Teletype-Printing-Terminal-TI-Silent-700-KSR-/371132246288?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566934a910
    ^this one does.

    Big ups to the two of you for bringing this to my attention. I know what I'm adding to my wishlist now. I want that full thing working!

    I actually have at least three other devices that can talk to it and planned to use the full thing as intended. I have a few use-cases in mind.

    Keep in mind that the one in the link does not have a doubleshot spacebar :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:23:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:20:41
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:18:26
    keep in mind that not all silent 700's had hall effect.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Vintage-Minicomputer-Portable-Teletype-Printing-Terminal-TI-Silent-700-KSR-/371132246288?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566934a910
    ^this one does.

    Big ups to the two of you for bringing this to my attention. I know what I'm adding to my wishlist now. I want that full thing working!

    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:21:10
    It takes a lot to get a hall effect KB on eBay past my filters. I'll keep my hands off this one if you're serious about getting it.
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:20:41
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:18:26
    keep in mind that not all silent 700's had hall effect.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Vintage-Minicomputer-Portable-Teletype-Printing-Terminal-TI-Silent-700-KSR-/371132246288?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566934a910
    ^this one does.

    Big ups to the two of you for bringing this to my attention. I know what I'm adding to my wishlist now. I want that full thing working!

    I actually have at least three other devices that can talk to it and planned to use the full thing as intended. I have a few use-cases in mind.
    You'll have to fight me to the death for this one. Although I think we can all agree to be civilized and not jack up the price in the meantime
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:26:17
    Also, this thing:http://www.ebay.com/itm/300975394942?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    The seller has a bunch of old keyboards for sale, and have messaged him multiple times but he hasn't responded back with any pictures of switches
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:28:21
    oh the old westinghouse airline terminal KBs. I belive they use keytronic but will look it up to make sure.

    edit: yep keytronic.
    source:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=16278.msg312346#msg312346
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:33:50
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:28:21
    oh the old westinghouse airline terminal KBs. I belive they use keytronic but will look it up to make sure.

    edit: yep keytronic.
    source:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=16278.msg312346#msg312346
    eww. ewww eww eww. I have an old military keyboard with those switches and it is the most god awful thing I have ever typed on
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:36:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:33:50
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:28:21
    oh the old westinghouse airline terminal KBs. I belive they use keytronic but will look it up to make sure.

    edit: yep keytronic.
    source:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=16278.msg312346#msg312346
    eww. ewww eww eww. I have an old military keyboard with those switches and it is the most god awful thing I have ever typed on

    Interestingly enough, it's still way better than the old hitek switches in my TI data911 terminal KB that CPTbadass linked.

    He has some switch pictures:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chicony-KB-5181-DIN-Keyboard-FCC-ID-E8H5IKKB-5181-Blue-/301057744816?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item4618709fb0
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-SKM-1040-FCC-ID-GJJSKM-1040-PS-2-Keyboard-/291052160037?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43c40f8425
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:38:56
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:36:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:33:50
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 29 August 2014, 19:28:21
    oh the old westinghouse airline terminal KBs. I belive they use keytronic but will look it up to make sure.

    edit: yep keytronic.
    source:
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=16278.msg312346#msg312346
    eww. ewww eww eww. I have an old military keyboard with those switches and it is the most god awful thing I have ever typed on

    Interestingly enough, it's still way better than the old hitek switches in my TI data911 terminal KB that CPTbadass linked.

    He has some switch pictures:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chicony-KB-5181-DIN-Keyboard-FCC-ID-E8H5IKKB-5181-Blue-/301057744816?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item4618709fb0
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-SKM-1040-FCC-ID-GJJSKM-1040-PS-2-Keyboard-/291052160037?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43c40f8425
    Alright, some credit due
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 30 August 2014, 17:16:33
    I am getting a Ducky Viper and I have no idea how stiff is the 11°. Don't have a measuring tool right now though. Is it similar to HHKB with the small feet on or the larger feet on?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 August 2014, 18:20:02
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Sat, 30 August 2014, 17:16:33
    I am getting a Ducky Viper and I have no idea how stiff is the 11°. Don't have a measuring tool right now though. Is it similar to HHKB with the small feet on or the larger feet on?

    I'm assuming you mean Duck Viper. And I'm not understanding your question. How stiff is the 11°?

    I would imagine it feels like the angle of a Filco or Ducky with the feet out. Dunno about an HHKB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 30 August 2014, 19:16:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 August 2014, 18:20:02
    I'm assuming you mean Duck Viper. And I'm not understanding your question. How stiff is the 11°?

    I would imagine it feels like the angle of a Filco or Ducky with the feet out. Dunno about an HHKB.

    Ooops, yeah I mean Duck Viper. I mean steep. :)

    Thanks for the info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 31 August 2014, 10:48:14
    What's with all the Mx Clears-mania I'm reading about?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 31 August 2014, 13:04:23
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 31 August 2014, 10:48:14
    What's with all the Mx Clears-mania I'm reading about?

    What? How could I possibly answer that question? Obviously you're reading about MX Clears?...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Sun, 31 August 2014, 13:32:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 31 August 2014, 13:04:23
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 31 August 2014, 10:48:14
    What's with all the Mx Clears-mania I'm reading about?

    What? How could I possibly answer that question? Obviously you're reading about MX Clears?...
    Definitely, if you want make good decision, you should buy switch tester. This is a matter of taste, I found for myself that mx white has more beautiful, quiet and elegant click than blue and order whites for next diy project. If read only reviews - blue is a winner in contest of clicky switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:48:25
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 31 August 2014, 10:48:14
    What's with all the Mx Clears-mania I'm reading about?
    You really have to try switches to know if you like them. Some switches I thought I would love, I didn't. And some I was not expecting to like surprised me.

    A lot of people mod clears to different weights. You are probably seeing a lot about ergo clears if you are reading a lot about clears.

    I am currently running clears with 65g springs and silicone balls (trampoline mod) and SA keycaps. Been enjoying this setup, but it is not a super superior setup to any other switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:56:05
    I'm a bit outdated in my knowledge of current keyboard supply sellers - does anyone know where I can buy color 60% plates and fully functionally (preferably LED supported too) PCB's? Poker 2 compatible, specifically, compatible with Pexon's 60% aluminum case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:58:15
    ctrl alts nerd 60 produced by gon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Mon, 01 September 2014, 01:12:07
    Quote from: domoaligato on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:58:15
    ctrl alts nerd 60 produced by gon.

    A bit expensive especially considering I won't be able to use all of the features (side lighting), and no plate...

    Does anyone know if Sprit's 60% PCB's are compatible/ if they have shipped already?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 September 2014, 01:14:07
    Quote from: minho on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:56:05
    I'm a bit outdated in my knowledge of current keyboard supply sellers - does anyone know where I can buy color 60% plates and fully functionally (preferably LED supported too) PCB's? Poker 2 compatible, specifically, compatible with Pexon's 60% aluminum case.

    A poker 2 with a plate you paint yourself fits this description. Dunno about the status of sprit's buy.

    Only place I know of that has colored plays is Imsto and I'm not sure if they're in Stock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Mon, 01 September 2014, 01:20:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 September 2014, 01:14:07
    Quote from: minho on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:56:05
    I'm a bit outdated in my knowledge of current keyboard supply sellers - does anyone know where I can buy color 60% plates and fully functionally (preferably LED supported too) PCB's? Poker 2 compatible, specifically, compatible with Pexon's 60% aluminum case.

    A poker 2 with a plate you paint yourself fits this description. Dunno about the status of sprit's buy.

    Only place I know of that has colored plays is Imsto and I'm not sure if they're in Stock.

    Ah okay I seemed to recall seeing them on IMSTOs website before, but couldn't find them now. Guess they're out of stock.

    Would rather not paint the Poker plate (especially considering desoldering... soldering is fine but desoldering is such a *****), but thanks for the suggestion. Guess I'll keep my eyes peeled for a cheap used Poker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:08:32
    Will a key stem from a model m fit into a Unicomp 122?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:53:31
    They're both model M switches, so it should work.

    I know it works the other way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:54:10
    I've noticed that occasionally after I walk around on carpet for a bit and then touch my Kingsaver, I'll get a static discharge and the keyboard will stop working for a few seconds, then go back to normal. Is that harmful to the keyboard at all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:56:12
    Yes.  It could kill the controller.  I'd find something grounded to clear yourself on, like your computer case, before touching your keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 01 September 2014, 12:01:24
    Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:56:12
    Yes.  It could kill the controller.  I'd find something grounded to clear yourself on, like your computer case, before touching your keyboard.

    Oh wow! Good to know, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 September 2014, 12:05:36
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:08:32
    Will a key stem from a model m fit into a Unicomp 122? If so, does anyone have a couple I can buy off ya please? =)

    Yes it will and you can buy them from Unicomp (http://pckeyboard.com/page/category/Buttons).

    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:54:10
    I've noticed that occasionally after I walk around on carpet for a bit and then touch my Kingsaver, I'll get a static discharge and the keyboard will stop working for a few seconds, then go back to normal. Is that harmful to the keyboard at all?

    I've also noticed that the Kingsaver doesn't have proper grounding. I've been trying to add in more drawer liner around the USB port area which seems to help a little. And yes it is harmful so you'll want to be careful and perhaps check your outlet to see if everything is grounded correctly. My apartment doesn't have proper grounding in the sockets since it's old and I need to install GFCI outlets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cphead on Tue, 02 September 2014, 00:31:11
    Where can one get a winkeyless g80 1800 nowadays? Caps don't need to be doubleshot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 September 2014, 08:24:33
    Quote from: cphead on Tue, 02 September 2014, 00:31:11
    Where can one get a winkeyless g80 1800 nowadays? Caps don't need to be doubleshot.

    Hm...maybe ebay and some online retailers? I'm not quite sure which retailers though but perhaps you could message Ivan or Photekq. I know that occasionally they link me to odd websites and I can never remember what sites they are. Winkeyless is a bit harder to find though I believe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 02 September 2014, 21:52:46
    In lowpoly's Apple M0110 modding guide, he replaces the springs with Dell AT101 springs. The springs in the M0110 are smaller than MX springs, are all alps springs the same, smaller size?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 02 September 2014, 21:55:28
    Quote from: cphead on Tue, 02 September 2014, 00:31:11
    Where can one get a winkeyless g80 1800 nowadays? Caps don't need to be doubleshot.

    You can usually find a compaq 11800 on the cheap on ebay, glwf =)

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=compaq+1800&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H0.Xcompaq+11800&_nkw=compaq+11800&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=compaq+1800&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H0.Xcompaq+11800&_nkw=compaq+11800&_sacat=0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cphead on Tue, 02 September 2014, 22:02:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 September 2014, 08:24:33
    Quote from: cphead on Tue, 02 September 2014, 00:31:11
    Where can one get a winkeyless g80 1800 nowadays? Caps don't need to be doubleshot.

    Hm...maybe ebay and some online retailers? I'm not quite sure which retailers though but perhaps you could message Ivan or Photekq. I know that occasionally they link me to odd websites and I can never remember what sites they are. Winkeyless is a bit harder to find though I believe.

    Quote from: digi on Tue, 02 September 2014, 21:55:28
    Quote from: cphead on Tue, 02 September 2014, 00:31:11
    Where can one get a winkeyless g80 1800 nowadays? Caps don't need to be doubleshot.

    You can usually find a compaq 11800 on the cheap on ebay, glwf =)

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=compaq+1800&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H0.Xcompaq+11800&_nkw=compaq+11800&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=compaq+1800&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H0.Xcompaq+11800&_nkw=compaq+11800&_sacat=0)

    Thanks for the responses, good people :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 03 September 2014, 05:40:18
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 September 2014, 21:52:46
    In lowpoly's Apple M0110 modding guide, he replaces the springs with Dell AT101 springs. The springs in the M0110 are smaller than MX springs, are all alps springs the same, smaller size?

    The diameter should always be the same, their length might differ but that really doesn't matter since they're getting compressed when you assemble them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 03 September 2014, 05:43:14
    cphead, I'm guessing you want a G80 for the PCB? You might be better looking for a leeku 1800 PCB. Probably easier to find.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:13:48
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 03 September 2014, 05:40:18
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 September 2014, 21:52:46
    In lowpoly's Apple M0110 modding guide, he replaces the springs with Dell AT101 springs. The springs in the M0110 are smaller than MX springs, are all alps springs the same, smaller size?

    The diameter should always be the same, their length might differ but that really doesn't matter since they're getting compressed when you assemble them.
    well it seems as though gh refuses to let me post the picture but the MX spring definitely has a bigger diameter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:45:44
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:13:48

    it seems as though gh refuses to let me post the picture


    It is stupid. In a reply with a quote, you can't attach a photo.

    But after you post, you can go back and modify it, then you get the option.

    Go figure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:49:17
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:45:44
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:13:48

    it seems as though gh refuses to let me post the picture


    It is stupid. In a reply with a quote, you can't attach a photo.

    But after you post, you can go back and modify it, then you get the option.

    Go figure.


    I just tried it this myself and got a 500 Internal Server Error.

    Reported fohat.digs' post to bring it to the mods'/admins' attention. PMing or a friendly report seems to do  more for fixing problems than complaining idly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:54:31
    Complaining Idly :p


    That was a test (the little faces were not working earlier)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 September 2014, 21:07:03
    Quote from: MJ45 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:54:31
    the little faces were not working earlier

    Seems like if you quote a picture, the faces don't work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 03 September 2014, 21:11:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 September 2014, 21:07:03
    Quote from: MJ45 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:54:31
    the little faces were not working earlier

    Seems like if you quote a picture, the faces don't work.

    This is a very well known thing.  And I believe that if you quote a quote of a picture, it works.  Or something like that.  There's some way to have a picture quoted and have everything work just dandy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 04 September 2014, 05:37:27
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:13:48
    well it seems as though gh refuses to let me post the picture but the MX spring definitely has a bigger diameter

    I meant the diameter of all Alps springs should be the same, only their length might differ. MX springs have a bigger diameter and don't fit into Alps switches (and vice versa afaik).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 04 September 2014, 06:39:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 04 September 2014, 05:37:27
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:13:48
    well it seems as though gh refuses to let me post the picture but the MX spring definitely has a bigger diameter

    I meant the diameter of all Alps springs should be the same, only their length might differ. MX springs have a bigger diameter and don't fit into Alps switches (and vice versa afaik).
    ah sorry, read your reply wrong :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 04 September 2014, 07:22:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:49:17

    Reported fohat.digs' post to bring it to the mods'/admins' attention. PMing or a friendly report seems to do  more for fixing problems than complaining idly.


    I thought that multiple people have been complaining about this for years, literally.

    A parallel nuisance is the inability to attach a photo in a PM.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 September 2014, 08:25:09


    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 04 September 2014, 07:22:11
    I thought that multiple people have been complaining about this for years, literally.

    A parallel nuisance is the inability to attach a photo in a PM.

    I use imgur or Flickr so I don't really know. I'm not that into the GH attachment since it will lose photos and it's good to have a backup in case anything happens again to GH in my opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 04 September 2014, 14:18:13
    So is the forum completely crapping out or what? Every other thread I try and load stops part of the way through and if I try and go back a page it does the same thing in every thread......maybe I need to clear my cache....also still getting 504 errors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 September 2014, 14:22:07
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 04 September 2014, 14:18:13
    So is the forum completely crapping out or what? Every other thread I try and load stops part of the way through and if I try and go back a page it does the same thing in every thread......maybe I need to clear my cache....also still getting 504 errors.

    It's working fine for me; just loading slowly. Was doing that yesterday.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 04 September 2014, 14:58:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 04 September 2014, 14:18:13
    So is the forum completely crapping out or what? Every other thread I try and load stops part of the way through and if I try and go back a page it does the same thing in every thread......maybe I need to clear my cache....also still getting 504 errors.

    Been doing it for me for a couple of days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:04:46
    no problems here
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 September 2014, 15:41:30

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 September 2014, 08:25:09


    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 04 September 2014, 07:22:11
    I thought that multiple people have been complaining about this for years, literally.

    A parallel nuisance is the inability to attach a photo in a PM.

    I use imgur or Flickr so I don't really know. I'm not that into the GH attachment since it will lose photos and it's good to have a backup in case anything happens again to GH in my opinion.

    Some people might like the ability to attach files to PMs for things like hex files and CAD drawings. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: philstahlfeld on Thu, 04 September 2014, 16:37:32
    So I really like using programmer Dvorak, but I'm going to be pair programming with someone who uses QWERTY and we'll be doing so on multiple machines. My ideal solution would be to have a keyboard that I can carry around with me that has programmer Dvorak and QWERTY that I can toggle with a button or a switch. Is there a keyboard out there that I can do this with? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to flash different layouts to the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 04 September 2014, 16:42:43
    Quote from: philstahlfeld on Thu, 04 September 2014, 16:37:32
    So I really like using programmer Dvorak, but I'm going to be pair programming with someone who uses QWERTY and we'll be doing so on multiple machines. My ideal solution would be to have a keyboard that I can carry around with me that has programmer Dvorak and QWERTY that I can toggle with a button or a switch. Is there a keyboard out there that I can do this with? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to flash different layouts to the keyboard.

    The WASD V2 can do that afaik. Apart from that you could go for a programmable keyboard like a Phantom - that would require some soldering work though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: philstahlfeld on Thu, 04 September 2014, 18:29:49
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 04 September 2014, 16:42:43
    Quote from: philstahlfeld on Thu, 04 September 2014, 16:37:32
    So I really like using programmer Dvorak, but I'm going to be pair programming with someone who uses QWERTY and we'll be doing so on multiple machines. My ideal solution would be to have a keyboard that I can carry around with me that has programmer Dvorak and QWERTY that I can toggle with a button or a switch. Is there a keyboard out there that I can do this with? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to flash different layouts to the keyboard.

    The WASD V2 can do that afaik. Apart from that you could go for a programmable keyboard like a Phantom - that would require some soldering work though.

    It looks like the WASD V2 can do Dvorak, Colemak, Mac mode, and QWERTY mode, but not programmer Dvorak :/
    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/v2-user-guide.pdf
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 04 September 2014, 18:39:19
    Quote from: philstahlfeld on Thu, 04 September 2014, 18:29:49
    It looks like the WASD V2 can do Dvorak, Colemak, Mac mode, and QWERTY mode, but not programmer Dvorak :/
    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/v2-user-guide.pdf

    Ah okay well then an option is a programmable keyboard. With one of those you could set programmer dvorak on one layer and QWERTY on another and switch between the two with a key combination. You could also get a custom controller for a Filco for example - works the same way but is less work as you don't have to solder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 05 September 2014, 01:50:47
    Does anyone know exactly how close Cherry and SP DCS profiles are? I'm considering getting the mods from http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/greentea-set/ to go with some WoB Cherry doubleshots alphas I have, and wasn't sure how well they would match in terms of feel and appearance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 September 2014, 05:22:20


    Quote from: minho on Fri, 05 September 2014, 01:50:47
    Does anyone know exactly how close Cherry and SP DCS profiles are?

    dcs is SP's copy of the Cherry profile. They're very similar. The feel will be a bit off but the heights and the shapes should be fine. If someone reminds me, I can take a picture comparing the two profiles this afternoon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:25:05
    When shipping bare PCB's with nothing on them (enablers) is there any reason why I would need to put them in ESD bags or would regular ziploc bags work fine?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:41:11
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:25:05
    When shipping bare PCB's with nothing on them (enablers) is there any reason why I would need to put them in ESD bags or would regular ziploc bags work fine?

    If there's nothing on them there's nothing that could get fried so I don't see an issue with that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:49:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:25:05
    When shipping bare PCB's with nothing on them (enablers) is there any reason why I would need to put them in ESD bags or would regular ziploc bags work fine?

    I'd prefer ESD just to be on the safe side. I've received most of my PCBs with ESD bags.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:57:25
    The reason I ask is because of the general caution people around here take when shipping stuff.  For what its worth Enablers have landed and they were just shrink wrapped in a heavy plastic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Fri, 05 September 2014, 13:05:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 September 2014, 05:22:20


    Quote from: minho on Fri, 05 September 2014, 01:50:47
    Does anyone know exactly how close Cherry and SP DCS profiles are?

    dcs is SP's copy of the Cherry profile. They're very similar. The feel will be a bit off but the heights and the shapes should be fine. If someone reminds me, I can take a picture comparing the two profiles this afternoon.

    If you could take a picture of that and a picture comparing the thicknesses underneath, that would be really awesome!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 September 2014, 13:13:44
    Quote from: minho on Fri, 05 September 2014, 13:05:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 September 2014, 05:22:20


    Quote from: minho on Fri, 05 September 2014, 01:50:47
    Does anyone know exactly how close Cherry and SP DCS profiles are?

    dcs is SP's copy of the Cherry profile. They're very similar. The feel will be a bit off but the heights and the shapes should be fine. If someone reminds me, I can take a picture comparing the two profiles this afternoon.

    If you could take a picture of that and a picture comparing the thicknesses underneath, that would be really awesome!

    (http://i.imgur.com/SQUjrrC.jpg)

    Grey Clover is SP, everything around it is GMK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 05 September 2014, 13:58:42
    right is SP, left 2 are GMK

    (http://i.imgur.com/p2wgOkO.jpg)

    the cherry mount is the same thickness as ALPS mount, so don't fret about that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 06 September 2014, 04:37:59
    edit: nvm it fixed itself again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 06 September 2014, 04:42:09
    There are a few server issues right now, the admins are working on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 06 September 2014, 08:56:04
    If an mx blue switch lost it clickiness, is it because of the stem or the left? I once experience an mx clear lost most of its tactility because of a bad left. I was able to fix by replacing the bottom switch. Is it the same with  mx blue? I was hoping it is because I have enough switch bottom and I have order from techkeys an mx blue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 September 2014, 09:05:15


    Quote from: jorgenslee on Sat, 06 September 2014, 08:56:04
    If an mx blue switch lost it clickiness, is it because of the stem or the left?

    Could be wear in the housing or the stem I think. It definitely can't hurt to try swapping out the bottoms.

    For some reason though, I have a nagging feeling it's now likely the stem. But that's just my gut feeling at this moment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:23:11
    How does one go about programming a 38GT?

    Edit: Nevermind, I think this is it
    http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=aikon_down&sca=Firmware&sfl=wr_10&stx=&nca=
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Sun, 07 September 2014, 03:15:31
    Thanks for some badass pictures (get it).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 07 September 2014, 04:59:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 September 2014, 09:05:15

    Quote from: jorgenslee on Sat, 06 September 2014, 08:56:04
    If an mx blue switch lost it clickiness, is it because of the stem or the left?

    Could be wear in the housing or the stem I think. It definitely can't hurt to try swapping out the bottoms.

    For some reason though, I have a nagging feeling it's now likely the stem. But that's just my gut feeling at this moment.


    The MX blues click is caused by that little white bit hitting the bottom of the switch.

    Loss of that could be due to a small hair, fibre, grain of sand or liquid getting into the switch and dampening the internal movement.

    If you are getting a replacement switch, you are probably looking to desolder the existing switch - so just replace the entire switch.  They are plentiful, so you won't need to replace it again in a hurry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 07 September 2014, 07:41:12
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 07 September 2014, 04:59:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 September 2014, 09:05:15

    Quote from: jorgenslee on Sat, 06 September 2014, 08:56:04
    If an mx blue switch lost it clickiness, is it because of the stem or the left?

    Could be wear in the housing or the stem I think. It definitely can't hurt to try swapping out the bottoms.

    For some reason though, I have a nagging feeling it's now likely the stem. But that's just my gut feeling at this moment.


    The MX blues click is caused by that little white bit hitting the bottom of the switch.

    Loss of that could be due to a small hair, fibre, grain of sand or liquid getting into the switch and dampening the internal movement.

    If you are getting a replacement switch, you are probably looking to desolder the existing switch - so just replace the entire switch.  They are plentiful, so you won't need to replace it again in a hurry.

    Ahh ic, Thanks. I'm getting some mx blue switch from techkeys. For .06/piece it is a nice deal. I do hope there is some way to fix a non-clicky blue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ChThoniC on Mon, 08 September 2014, 00:00:28
    What's the current recommended tenkeyless with cherry browns?
    The last one I got says 3-5 months to ship from amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007VDKLLM/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suparnemo on Mon, 08 September 2014, 00:07:16
    Elitekeyboards no longer seems to have any leopolds. Any idea what is going on anyone?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 September 2014, 00:49:28
    Quote from: ChThoniC on Mon, 08 September 2014, 00:00:28
    What's the current recommended tenkeyless with cherry browns?

    QFR, Filco, Kul, Ducky. Great username btw, I love that band :).

    Quote from: suparnemo on Mon, 08 September 2014, 00:07:16
    Elitekeyboards no longer seems to have any leopolds. Any idea what is going on anyone?

    Seems like they stopped carrying Leopolds in favor of the KUL boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:05:01
    Is it possible to mod or add a LCD like this one https://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/board5/lcd_128x64.html (https://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/board5/lcd_128x64.html) to the Ergodox or is it impossible because the Teensy can not deal with a keyboard AND a lcd or because there are not enough pins on the teensy to deal with it (as numlock and vernum have to be dealt with) or is it even because the Ergodox pcb is not designed to "accept" a lcd?
    (I'm asking this because i'd like to recreate the behaviour of a logitech G13 http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g13-advanced-gameboard (http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g13-advanced-gameboard) with an Ergodox (for the left hand) and i wonder if it's that's even possible)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:33:04
    Quote from: Kaibz on Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:05:01
    Is it possible to mod or add a LCD like this one https://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/board5/lcd_128x64.html (https://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/board5/lcd_128x64.html) to the Ergodox or is it impossible because the Teensy can not deal with a keyboard AND a lcd or because there are not enough pins on the teensy to deal with it (as numlock and vernum have to be dealt with) or is it even because the Ergodox pcb is not designed to "accept" a lcd?
    (I'm asking this because i'd like to recreate the behaviour of a logitech G13 http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g13-advanced-gameboard (http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g13-advanced-gameboard) with an Ergodox (for the left hand) and i wonder if it's that's even possible)
    i think with a ton of hardwiring and other stuff you can, but it's not worth it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:34:04
    Quote from: Kaibz on Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:05:01
    Is it possible to mod or add a LCD like this one https://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/board5/lcd_128x64.html (https://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/board5/lcd_128x64.html) to the Ergodox

    I don't know if the Teensy will drive the LCD but I think you could get it running with an Arduino or Raspberry PI. Then you could integrate it into your setup. Or make a cousin case for it.

    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:33:04
    i think with a ton of hardwiring and other stuff you can, but it's not worth it.

    Definitely untrue. What's not worth it to you could be someone's biggest wish and worth investing the time and effort into.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Mon, 08 September 2014, 11:30:36
    Thanks a lot for your answers, i was hoping that a chip that could control a full keyboard and a lcd at the same time would exist.
    I'm actually going though a lot of threads looking for "LCD" and 'Keyboard" and i can't find much, as you have all been here for a long time i was wondering if you had heard about a project about a custom keyboard with integrated lcd on geekhack?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Mon, 08 September 2014, 12:14:51

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:34:04

    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:33:04
    i think with a ton of hardwiring and other stuff you can, but it's not worth it.

    Definitely untrue. What's not worth it to you could be someone's biggest wish and worth investing the time and effort into.

    never thought of it that way. sorry! haha but yea good luck in your journey for the lcd panel thingy, rmb to post pictures if you get it!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 September 2014, 12:45:11
    Quote from: Kaibz on Mon, 08 September 2014, 11:30:36
    i was wondering if you had heard about a project about a custom keyboard with integrated lcd on geekhack?

    I can't recall of a thread that has that.



    I'm at microcenter and they're selling an RPi addon that's got an lcd screen. That might work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Mon, 08 September 2014, 13:01:43
    I'm going to have a look at that.
    Of course i will post everything i find if i complete it.
    Thanks again for the help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 September 2014, 13:04:55
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/08/72b0a71d921d19e95f8890d7462c32d0.jpg)

    At microcenter, they've got a modded ducky zero out as a tester.

    Sorry for the potato.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 08 September 2014, 22:57:07
    What is KMAC? How do you know that a keyboard is a KMAC? I saw the IC of codyeatworld on KMAC PCB + Plate which will be produce by GON. I was wondering what really makes it a KMAC? Is it the PCB? Case? Or both? Sorry for the stupid question though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 08 September 2014, 23:22:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 September 2014, 13:04:55
    Show Image
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/08/72b0a71d921d19e95f8890d7462c32d0.jpg)


    At microcenter, they've got a modded ducky zero out as a tester.

    Sorry for the potato.

    Is that an actual keycap set?

    If not, why hasn't someone done one yet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 08 September 2014, 23:25:28
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 08 September 2014, 23:22:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 September 2014, 13:04:55
    Show Image
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/08/72b0a71d921d19e95f8890d7462c32d0.jpg)


    At microcenter, they've got a modded ducky zero out as a tester.

    Sorry for the potato.

    Is that an actual keycap set?

    If not, why hasn't someone done one yet?

    Blanks in corresponding color?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 08 September 2014, 23:30:43
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 08 September 2014, 23:25:28
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 08 September 2014, 23:22:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 September 2014, 13:04:55
    Show Image
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/08/72b0a71d921d19e95f8890d7462c32d0.jpg)


    At microcenter, they've got a modded ducky zero out as a tester.

    Sorry for the potato.

    Is that an actual keycap set?

    If not, why hasn't someone done one yet?

    Blanks in corresponding color?

    The legends!  "BLACK SWITCH", "RED SWITCH" and so on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nahka on Tue, 09 September 2014, 00:23:20
    Do the ISO sets in group buys usually include the letters Ö Ä Å or just 2 blanks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 09 September 2014, 00:27:11
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:54:10
    I've noticed that occasionally after I walk around on carpet for a bit and then touch my Kingsaver, I'll get a static discharge and the keyboard will stop working for a few seconds, then go back to normal. Is that harmful to the keyboard at all?

    An update on this just in case anyone ever experiences a similar issue:

    A few days ago I remembered that I had switched the keyboard's USB connection to the powered hub instead of directly into my computer. Switched it back to the computer and I haven't had the problem a single time since. Must've been a grounding issue with the hub.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 09 September 2014, 00:38:42
    Would there be any sort of limitations I should be aware of if I wanted to use an unpowered USB hub for a mouse and keyboard?

    By unpowered I mean just drawing power completely from the one USB port and not another usb port or wall wart.

    IE would LED lighting on keyboard and "gamer" mouse such as Naga be to taxing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 01:02:29
    Quick question about programming a teensy 2.0 keyboard. I got my JD40 all soldered up and now I want to program it. I have a layout all made up in easy avr but I am lost using the flip program.

    The teensy will now show up in the program. I can get it to show up in the teensy loader program but flip just wont detect it.

    Any help? I am done dealing with it tonight but I would love to have it up and running in the morning.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 09 September 2014, 05:20:14
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 08 September 2014, 22:57:07
    What is KMAC? How do you know that a keyboard is a KMAC? I saw the IC of codyeatworld on KMAC PCB + Plate which will be produce by GON. I was wondering what really makes it a KMAC? Is it the PCB? Case? Or both? Sorry for the stupid question though.

    It's a Korean custom keyboard. It includes a custom PCB, plate and metal case. You can of course still use the PCB in a different case and call it a KMAC, however usually when people talk about a KMAC they mean the original combination. There's a few versions of them, some have winkeyless cases, some don't. They case material also depends on the version. Here's an example for one:

    (http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/img_0923.jpg?w=1024)

    There's also the KMAC Mini and the KMAC Happy which are not standard tenkeyless boards.

    Quote from: nahka on Tue, 09 September 2014, 00:23:20
    Do the ISO sets in group buys usually include the letters Ö Ä Å or just 2 blanks?

    Usually just two blanks since there's a ton of ISO variants. 7bit usually offers proper language kits in his group buys.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 09 September 2014, 00:38:42
    Would there be any sort of limitations I should be aware of if I wanted to use an unpowered USB hub for a mouse and keyboard?

    By unpowered I mean just drawing power completely from the one USB port and not another usb port or wall wart.

    IE would LED lighting on keyboard and "gamer" mouse such as Naga be to taxing?

    Well if something draws too much power, one or more of the devices will not work. Can't really say if it would work beforehand as you never know how much power a device draws.

    Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 01:02:29
    Quick question about programming a teensy 2.0 keyboard. I got my JD40 all soldered up and now I want to program it. I have a layout all made up in easy avr but I am lost using the flip program.

    The teensy will now show up in the program. I can get it to show up in the teensy loader program but flip just wont detect it.

    Any help? I am done dealing with it tonight but I would love to have it up and running in the morning.

    Did you press the button to get into bootloader mode?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 September 2014, 07:59:31
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 08 September 2014, 22:57:07
    What is KMAC? How do you know that a keyboard is a KMAC? I saw the IC of codyeatworld on KMAC PCB + Plate which will be produce by GON. I was wondering what really makes it a KMAC? Is it the PCB? Case? Or both? Sorry for the stupid question though.

    To expand on what BlueBär said, the plate has "KMAC" cut into it above the arrow cluster on the TKLs. Not sure if that's on the 60% variants boards. The PCBs have KMAC silkscreened onto the PCB itself. And the cases all have the two piece square look with the machined feet. I'm pretty sure KMAC stands for "Korean Maniac Attic Craze". For sure, it is an acronym though.

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 09 September 2014, 00:38:42
    Would there be any sort of limitations I should be aware of if I wanted to use an unpowered USB hub for a mouse and keyboard?

    I used that for years. My unpowered hub just failed and I bought a powered one. No issues.

    Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 01:02:29
    Quick question about programming a teensy 2.0 keyboard. I got my JD40 all soldered up and now I want to program it. I have a layout all made up in easy avr but I am lost using the flip program.

    The teensy will now show up in the program. I can get it to show up in the teensy loader program but flip just wont detect it.

    Any help? I am done dealing with it tonight but I would love to have it up and running in the morning.

    I'm not 100% sure but you can try following nubbinator's directions for using Flip (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61588.msg1439657#msg1439657). Yes it's specific to the Kingsaver but you can try substituting the programming key on the JD40 for the "hold escape" step on the Kingsaver. Also, try PMing Margo Baggins or jdcarpe for help.

    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 08 September 2014, 23:22:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 September 2014, 13:04:55
    Show Image
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/08/72b0a71d921d19e95f8890d7462c32d0.jpg)


    Is that an actual keycap set?

    If not, why hasn't someone done one yet?

    It's just stickers on the keycaps. And it seems a little tacky no?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 September 2014, 08:03:47
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 01:02:29
    Quick question about programming a teensy 2.0 keyboard. I got my JD40 all soldered up and now I want to program it. I have a layout all made up in easy avr but I am lost using the flip program.

    The teensy will now show up in the program. I can get it to show up in the teensy loader program but flip just wont detect it.

    Any help? I am done dealing with it tonight but I would love to have it up and running in the morning.

    These are the instructions from PJRC: http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/first_use.html

    And you will need the Teensy Loader (http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/loader.html) software, not Flip.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 09 September 2014, 08:04:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 September 2014, 07:59:31

    I used that for years. My unpowered hub just failed and I bought a powered one. No issues.


    My experience has been the opposite.

    The powered hub caused problems, but the unpowered one did not.

    Also, my Gigabyte motherboard will boot reasonably well from a 2.0 hub but not from a 3.0 hub.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 September 2014, 08:06:25
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 09 September 2014, 08:04:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 September 2014, 07:59:31

    I used that for years. My unpowered hub just failed and I bought a powered one. No issues.


    My experience has been the opposite.

    The powered hub caused problems, but the unpowered one did not.

    Also, my Gigabyte motherboard will boot reasonably well from a 2.0 hub but not from a 3.0 hub.

    Should be a little clearer. My unpowered hub worked fine. I had it for probably 5+ years and it finally failed. I bought a powered one and have been using it for about a month. Also no issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 09 September 2014, 11:41:38
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 08 September 2014, 22:57:07
    What is KMAC? How do you know that a keyboard is a KMAC? I saw the IC of codyeatworld on KMAC PCB + Plate which will be produce by GON. I was wondering what really makes it a KMAC? Is it the PCB? Case? Or both? Sorry for the stupid question though.
    heh, i asked something similar a while ago and CptBadss just said it's called a Frankenstein board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 09 September 2014, 11:44:15
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 09 September 2014, 11:41:38
    heh, i asked something similar a while ago and CptBadss just said it's called a Frankenstein board

    You could call it that as it is a keyboard made from various parts from other keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 September 2014, 11:44:28
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 09 September 2014, 11:41:38
    heh, i asked something similar a while ago and CptBadss just said it's called a Frankenstein board

    What are you referring to?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 09 September 2014, 12:20:14
    (http://i.imgur.com/5FvYYZO.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 September 2014, 12:29:34
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 09 September 2014, 12:20:14
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/5FvYYZO.png)


    Right, it's a Frankenboard if you swap in a GON PCB/plate into a KMAC and LZ case.

    To me, a whole complete KMAC is the KMAC plate, PCB, and case together. So if I say "KMAC", that's what I'm referring to.

    Edit: In case the imgur picture crashes, here is the link (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1381556#msg1381556).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Thu, 11 September 2014, 11:46:00
    What is the best place to buy LEDs? I'm looking to buy about 70 purple 2x3x4 mm LEDs for a Poker, but ebay doesn't seem to turn up much http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=2x3x4+mm+led&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X2x3x4mm+led.TRS0&_nkw=2x3x4mm+led&_sacat=0

    The pink looks pretty purplish, but I'm afraid that's just because of the way the picture was taken.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 September 2014, 11:47:34
    Quote from: minho on Thu, 11 September 2014, 11:46:00
    What is the best place to buy LEDs?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_RR

    People also buy from TaoBao or aliexpress. This IC may be of interest to you (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62156.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jessa on Thu, 11 September 2014, 19:15:35
    Are there two color variations of the classic IBM Model M, or is the difference I'm seeing due to lighting or age?

    There seems to be a beige version, and a gray version (not the dark gray of the industrial model), and I prefer the gray version. I would hate to turn down a good deal because I mistakenly thought it was a beige version when it was really just a bad photo or something that can be fixed with a good clean or retr0bright. I have found nothing online to say that it was manufactured in various colors and items for sale never mention a color with any of the other specs. The only indication that it might be true is that some of the Unicomp keys are available in those two colors.

    "Beige" example

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTgxWDEwMzI=/z/jMMAAOSwPe1UBcXG/$_57.JPG)


    "Gray" example

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/CY4AAOSwEK9UCuPe/$_57.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 11 September 2014, 19:17:26
    It's just lighting :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 11 September 2014, 19:18:51
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 11 September 2014, 19:17:26
    It's just lighting :thumb:

    can confirm

    mine was pretty beige in the pictures, but it's fairly white now that I've got it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 11 September 2014, 19:25:01
    Quote from: jessa on Thu, 11 September 2014, 19:15:35

    some of the Unicomp keys are available in those two colors.


    The proper name for the original key colors are "pearl" and "pebble"

    If you buy "gray" keys from Unicomp you will find that they are very "cool" tones where the "pebble" keys are very warm.

    Having said that, a black Unicomp case with "bright white" and gray keys could look good, and "lilac" can make a nice subtle accent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jessa on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:08:42
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 11 September 2014, 19:25:01
    The proper name for the original key colors are "pearl" and "pebble"

    If you buy "gray" keys from Unicomp you will find that they are very "cool" tones where the "pebble" keys are very warm.

    So just to be clear, the IBM version of the Model M was only made in the warmer pearl/pebble combo, and not the cooler grays? And the pearl/pebble caps from Unicomp will match the originals, while the gray are something new and different entirely?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:30:48


    Quote from: jessa on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:08:42
    So just to be clear, the IBM version of the Model M was only made in the warmer pearl/pebble combo, and not the cooler grays? And the pearl/pebble caps from Unicomp will match the originals, while the gray are something new and different entirely?

    You understand correctly
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:36:25
    Simple question.

    Is posting in here the quick fire way to a higher post count?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:37:12
    Quote from: Halverson on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:36:25
    Is posting in here the quick fire way to a higher post count?

    No, it just consolidates your spam into a thread :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:37:40

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:37:12
    Quote from: Halverson on Thu, 11 September 2014, 22:36:25
    Is posting in here the quick fire way to a higher post count?

    No, it just consolidates your spam into a thread :(

    Simple answer.

    Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Senthura on Fri, 12 September 2014, 04:39:09
    Is the Mionix mouse Massdrop deal worth it or should I bite the bullet and pay the $10 extra on Amazon for one that gets here in a week?

    My friend wants macros on his laptop keyboard like he can do with Fn programmed. Is there software or something for this? I only know of buying a new mech and using a Teensy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 12 September 2014, 04:56:41
    Quote from: Senthura on Fri, 12 September 2014, 04:39:09
    1. Is the Mionix mouse Massdrop deal worth it or should I bite the bullet and pay the $10 extra on Amazon for one that gets here in a week?

    2. My friend wants macros on his laptop keyboard like he can do with Fn programmed. Is there software or something for this? I only know of buying a new mech and using a Teensy.

    1. That's not really a question for this thread. You have to make that decision on your own.
    2. He can't do it with the Laptop's Fn key since pressing it doesn't send any actual input to the OS, but if he uses say the Windows key as an Fn key he can do macros with Authotkey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Fri, 12 September 2014, 11:44:27
    I've been searching the forum for some time now but there is one thing i just don't get....

    If you plan on making a plate to mount some cherry my switches into it, you are fine with just 14X14mm square holes, but what about the spacing of these holes? (see link for pic)
     Is it like a standard or does it only depend on the size of the keycap, and if you just use "normal" keycap what is the value of the spacing then? I'm asking because i'm too scared to make a mistake i would deeply regret.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/k6nr4fbw1p5xsu2/cherry%20mx%20spacing%20interogation%20with%20anotation.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/k6nr4fbw1p5xsu2/cherry%20mx%20spacing%20interogation%20with%20anotation.jpg?dl=0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 12 September 2014, 11:50:01
    Quote from: Kaibz on Fri, 12 September 2014, 11:44:27
    I've been searching the forum for some time now but there is one thing i just don't get....

    If you plan on making a plate to mount some cherry my switches into it, you are fine with just 14X14mm square holes, but what about the spacing of these holes? (see link for pic)
     Is it like a standard or does it only depend on the size of the keycap, and if you just use "normal" keycap what is the value of the spacing then? I'm asking because i'm too scared to make a mistake i would deeply regret.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/k6nr4fbw1p5xsu2/cherry%20mx%20spacing%20interogation%20with%20anotation.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/k6nr4fbw1p5xsu2/cherry%20mx%20spacing%20interogation%20with%20anotation.jpg?dl=0)

    Cherry spec for holes is .551" x .551" +/- .002" with a max radius in the corners of .012".  Standard spacing is .75".  If you go to www.cherrycorp.com and navigate to the MX line of switches you can find the pdf file to view/download that has all their specs for hole sizes.  I believe they are listed on their site in metric.  Plate thickness spec is .062" +/-.004"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gbohn on Fri, 12 September 2014, 16:10:10
    Can a bad Cherry MX switch on a plate mounted keyboard be replaced by de-soldering and then replacing only the one bad switch? Or does the PCB need to be de-soldered from all the switches to gain access to replacing it?

      Thanks;
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 12 September 2014, 16:15:29
    Quote from: gbohn on Fri, 12 September 2014, 16:10:10
    Can a bad Cherry MX switch on a plate mounted keyboard be replaced by de-soldering and then replacing only the one bad switch? Or does the PCB need to be de-soldered from all the switches to gain access to replacing it?

      Thanks;
    You only need to desolder the single switch  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Fri, 12 September 2014, 16:49:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 12 September 2014, 11:50:01

    Cherry spec for holes is .551" x .551" +/- .002" with a max radius in the corners of .012".  Standard spacing is .75".  If you go to www.cherrycorp.com and navigate to the MX line of switches you can find the pdf file to view/download that has all their specs for hole sizes.  I believe they are listed on their site in metric.  Plate thickness spec is .062" +/-.004"

    I'm really sorry to insist but when you say standard spacing is 0.75" that means that the actual space of metal that is between each keys mesures 0.75-0.551= 0.199" ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 12 September 2014, 18:48:24
    Correct.  The .75" is center to center.  Fair warning that changes when you get to longer than 1 unit key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ceflame on Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:43:45
    Does IMSTO's BSP rgb set have higher profile ctrl and alts? http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=89

    I just got the pbt rgb set from originative and the ctrl and alts are lower profile than the bsp beige set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:47:48
    Quote from: ceflame on Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:43:45
    Does IMSTO's BSP rgb set have higher profile ctrl and alts? http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=89

    I just got the pbt rgb set from originative and the ctrl and alts are lower profile than the bsp beige set.

    Imsto's should be A profile, while the other ones are probably B profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ceflame on Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:54:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:47:48
    Quote from: ceflame on Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:43:45
    Does IMSTO's BSP rgb set have higher profile ctrl and alts? http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=89

    I just got the pbt rgb set from originative and the ctrl and alts are lower profile than the bsp beige set.

    Imsto's should be A profile, while the other ones are probably B profile.

    Alright thanks... Is originative misinforming by listing their PBT rgb ctrl and alts as A profile? Maybe I'm just dumb and it's using a different A profile completely.

    Directly from their site http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-rgb-set "A Profile for Control and Alt, B Profile for Shift, and E Profile for Esc"

    Picture of what I recieved
    (http://i.imgur.com/v2J9qzM.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 12 September 2014, 21:21:13
    Quote from: ceflame on Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:54:16
    Alright thanks... Is originative misinforming by listing their PBT rgb ctrl and alts as A profile? Maybe I'm just dumb and it's using a different A profile completely.

    Directly from their site http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-rgb-set "A Profile for Control and Alt, B Profile for Shift, and E Profile for Esc"

    Picture of what I recieved
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/v2J9qzM.jpg)


    As you can see, your shift and your Alt and Ctrl keys all have the same profile. They're all B profile.

    Shows once again that you shouldn't buy from Originative I guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ceflame on Fri, 12 September 2014, 21:26:30
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 12 September 2014, 21:21:13
    Quote from: ceflame on Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:54:16
    Alright thanks... Is originative misinforming by listing their PBT rgb ctrl and alts as A profile? Maybe I'm just dumb and it's using a different A profile completely.

    Directly from their site http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-rgb-set "A Profile for Control and Alt, B Profile for Shift, and E Profile for Esc"

    Picture of what I recieved
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/v2J9qzM.jpg)


    As you can see, your shift and your Alt and Ctrl keys all have the same profile. They're all B profile.

    Shows once again that you shouldn't buy from Originative I guess.

    Ugh, more Originative horror stories. Quality is top notch though, just disappointed that I have to spend another $40 to make my sets match.

    Thanks for your help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:06:36
    Not sure if this is the right place to ask but is there any place where I can get mx switches in the UK?

    Does MK.com now ship internationally?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:32:49
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:06:36
    Not sure if this is the right place to ask but is there any place where I can get mx switches in the UK?

    Does MK.com now ship internationally?

    TechKeys ships internationally: http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/keyboard-switches

    The Keyboard CO also sells switches in the UK, but looks like slightly higher prices: http://www.keyboardco.com/type/mechanical-keyboard-parts-and-mods.asp
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:39:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:32:49
    TechKeys ships internationally: http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/keyboard-switches

    The Keyboard CO also sells switches in the UK, but looks like slightly higher prices: http://www.keyboardco.com/type/mechanical-keyboard-parts-and-mods.asp

    Techkeys only has MX Blues and MX Blacks, the other ones are clone switches. And keyboardco... "slightly higher" prices is a "slight" understatement. 1.62$ for a single switch is insane.

    You can get MX Blacks and MX Whites from Conrad for a decent price or you can order any type of MX switch from 7bit on Deskthority.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:44:48
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:32:49
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:06:36
    Not sure if this is the right place to ask but is there any place where I can get mx switches in the UK?

    Does MK.com now ship internationally?

    TechKeys ships internationally: http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/keyboard-switches

    The Keyboard CO also sells switches in the UK, but looks like slightly higher prices: http://www.keyboardco.com/type/mechanical-keyboard-parts-and-mods.asp

    Damn... 1 GBP per switch :( :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 13 September 2014, 07:08:01
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:44:48
    Damn... 1 GBP per switch :( :(

    http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html
    0.65€ per switch :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Sat, 13 September 2014, 07:40:17
    I highly recommend 7bit for switches and he is located in Europe, so shipping should be swift.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 13 September 2014, 07:43:56


    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:06:36
    Does MK.com now ship internationally?

    I thought that Mk.com shipped internationally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 13 September 2014, 12:22:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 13 September 2014, 07:43:56


    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Sat, 13 September 2014, 06:06:36
    Does MK.com now ship internationally?

    I thought that Mk.com shipped internationally.

    They do, but it's stupid expensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 14 September 2014, 00:32:53
    Between the JD40, the CTRL[ALT]40 and the SmallFry board that Mkawa is selling, do they all have the same physical layout? 

    Wondering as I am considering doing an IC for a keyset for those boards and want to make it compatible for all.

    If they are the same, how many of each size key would I need?

    If it isn't to much could I get info that is row specific in the off chance I want to do something like DCS.

    Edit:  Found this.


    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:41:47
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:36:05
    Jdcarpe, can you post the keycaps needed specifically for the 40%, and add that info to the OP. I'd like them to be added to every future GB.

    Sure.

    Row 2: 1u Esc, 1u Del or Backspace
    Row 3: 1.25u Tab, 1.75u Return or Enter
    Row 4: 1.75u Shift, 1.25u Shift, 1u Fn
    Row 4 (SA Row 3): 1.25u Ctrl, 1u Win or Del, 1u Alt; optional layout: 1.25u >., 1.25u ?/
    [/quote]

    Would this list work for all three boards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Sun, 14 September 2014, 09:54:43
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 12 September 2014, 18:48:24
    Correct.  The .75" is center to center.  Fair warning that changes when you get to longer than 1 unit key.

    thanks a lot for answering!


    If i want to create 2 small keyboard plates (pic), i don't want to use a PCB, i understand that the real issue is actually to be able to create square 14X14 holes in metal (laser cutting is just too expensive for me), so i'm wondering is there a material other than metal that would be "good enough" to hold mx Cherry switches or easier to work on like plexiglass? And if it is, are there tools i haven't heard of that would allow to cut squares holes in plexiglass

    If you had to make this holes would the best method be to just drill 14 mm holes and then use a metal file to create the actual squares?

    (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/kaibz/G13customplatesperspective_zpse5cbea18.jpg) (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/kaibz/media/G13customplatesperspective_zpse5cbea18.jpg.html)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 14 September 2014, 11:51:34
    Show Image
    Quote from: Kaibz on Sun, 14 September 2014, 09:54:43
    If i want to create 2 small keyboard plates (pic), i don't want to use a PCB, i understand that the real issue is actually to be able to create square 14X14 holes in metal (laser cutting is just too expensive for me), so i'm wondering is there a material other than metal that would be "good enough" to hold mx Cherry switches or easier to work on like plexiglass? And if it is, are there tools i haven't heard of that would allow to cut squares holes in plexiglass

    If you had to make this holes would the best method be to just drill 14 mm holes and then use a metal file to create the actual squares?

    (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/kaibz/G13customplatesperspective_zpse5cbea18.jpg) (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/kaibz/media/G13customplatesperspective_zpse5cbea18.jpg.html)

    You can look up if your local university has a laser cutter, if so they usually do that stuff cheaper than big shops.

    Apart from that I've seen acrylic and wooden "plates". You can use a dremel to cut the holes which might be the easiest option. Use a file for the last millimeters to get the best fit.
    The problem is, if you use something non-metal, you will have to use a thicker plate which will not hold the switch as tightly as it has little hooks that are supposed to grab onto the underside of the plate. So swapping keycaps might loosen some of the switches.

    Something else you could do is get a matrix POS keyboard (like a Tipro) and cut the plates to shape. That might actually be the easiest option as your picture shows a matrix switch layout if I'm not mistaken.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Sun, 14 September 2014, 13:04:57
    Thank you very much for your answer BlueBär.

    If i understand correctly, if i use acrylic, i have to use thicker plate than metal, but are you saying that because a 1.57mm (which is the standard plate thickness)  thick plexiglass plate would be too fragile (break) or because it would bend too much when i type ?

    Unfortunatly a POS keyboard plate would not fit for my bottom plate as 2 keys at the bottom are 1X25, but for the top plate it might actually work thank you for the reference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 14 September 2014, 13:11:37
    Quote from: Kaibz on Sun, 14 September 2014, 13:04:57
    If i understand correctly, if i use acrylic, i have to use thicker plate than metal, but are you saying that because a 1.57mm (which is the standard plate thickness)  thick plexiglass plate would be too fragile (break) or because it would bend too much when i type ?

    You have to use a thicker plate because you usually can't get acrylic plates in that thickness ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Sun, 14 September 2014, 13:36:02
    I had not thought about this, good point :(

    Thanks for your answers.

    Cheers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: madhias on Sun, 14 September 2014, 15:14:10
    Where can a man based in middle europe buy some Krytox or similar stuff?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 14 September 2014, 16:56:02
    Quote from: madhias on Sun, 14 September 2014, 15:14:10
    Where can a man based in middle europe buy some Krytox or similar stuff?
    Ctrl alt store will have it for sale soon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Mon, 15 September 2014, 05:20:42
    Acrylic is available in 1.5mm, but is too fragile and bends too easily even for small sized boards, as a bare minimum, I would recommend 2mm, and 3mm or more for larger setups like full size, 122-key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 September 2014, 08:10:58
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 September 2014, 00:32:53
    Between the JD40 and the SmallFry board that Mkawa is selling, do they all have the same physical layout? 

    Would this list work for all three boards?

    Considering they're all the same PCB and plate, yes. If I understand  correctly, there is only the JD40 and SmallFry board. Both the SmallFry and the JD40s have the same plates but have a few options on the plates/cases in the form of the open plate and bottom case made from stainless, the layered stainless case, and the SmallFry's titanium plate and bottom case. I think there are a couple revisions of the PCBs. But overall, they're not that different. I don't there's a difference between the JD40 and what CTRL[ALT] is selling besides a updated PCB.

    Anyways, since there's only one layout, and that quote is from JD himself that list would work. If you see this JD, please correct any of my mistakes :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Mon, 15 September 2014, 10:39:43
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 15 September 2014, 05:20:42
    Acrylic is available in 1.5mm, but is too fragile and bends too easily even for small sized boards, as a bare minimum, I would recommend 2mm, and 3mm or more for larger setups like full size, 122-key.

    I was just about to buy 1.5 mm online so thank you very much for the tip!!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: madhias on Mon, 15 September 2014, 12:50:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 14 September 2014, 16:56:02
    Quote from: madhias on Sun, 14 September 2014, 15:14:10
    Where can a man based in middle europe buy some Krytox or similar stuff?
    Ctrl alt store will have it for sale soon

    Thanks! Will have a look then, i think i read it somewhere, that there was a Krytox option with the JD40 sets if i remember correctly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 15 September 2014, 14:10:45
    (I am an IBM newb)

    Few questions :

    What exactly does the solenoid in IBM beam spring keyboards do? Am I right in saying it just makes a clicky noise?
    Is there anywhere I can hear what it sounds like?
    Is there any delay between the noise from the solenoid and the keypress?
    Do all IBM beam spring keyboards have solenoids?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 September 2014, 14:17:24
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 15 September 2014, 14:10:45
    1) What exactly does the solenoid in IBM beam spring keyboards do? Am I right in saying it just makes a clicky noise?
    2) Is there anywhere I can hear what it sounds like?
    3) Is there any delay between the noise from the solenoid and the keypress?
    4) Do all IBM beam spring keyboards have solenoids?

    1) I'm not sure what they do besides make a little electronic click noise. I haven't been able to figure out if there's another use for it besides that.
    2) My Google search didn't reveal anything but if I can remember where I saw the video of the solenoid sound on Deskthority I'll post it here.

    Ok, I found the videos. Here is a beamspring without the solenoid. Shoutouts to Game Theory (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49204.0) for posting this:

    And this isn't *the best* video for it since he's talking over it but you can hear the solenoid firing. It's much more subtle than I expected. Shoutouts to Halvar (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/restoring-my-ibm-beam-spring-keyboard-from-ibm-3278-a02-terminal-t8515.html#p176728) for this great post (skip to 1:50):

    3) When I tried a keyboard with a solenoid at Keycon, there was no delay.
    4) I think so?

    I'll keep looking for better answers too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 15 September 2014, 14:20:24
    Thanks bro! :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 15 September 2014, 15:00:25
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 15 September 2014, 14:10:45
    (I am an IBM newb)

    Few questions :

    What exactly does the solenoid in IBM beam spring keyboards do? Am I right in saying it just makes a clicky noise?
    Is there anywhere I can hear what it sounds like?
    Is there any delay between the noise from the solenoid and the keypress?
    Do all IBM beam spring keyboards have solenoids?
    Thanks for the heads-up on this one, CPT!

    Here's a short writeup I made:
    Quote
    A solenoid is a moveable metal bit surrounded by copper coils. You put current down the coils and the metal moves. You can use them in hydraulic valves, etc.

    KB solenoids (for Wang, IBM, televideo, etc.) have a "stop" at the end and a spring. The spring holds the metal piece on one side. When current is applied, it hits the stop, making a click. When current is gone, it slides back into rest position with the spring.

    They are used to make a keyclick sound in the days before DC buzzers and cheap piezoelectric speakers. You could also use them to ring the terminal bell, but in KBs they mostly are used to make a keyclick, as even the click of a beam spring wasn't enough for some typists raised on typewriters.

    It's sometimes possible to cycle them fast enough to make them "buzz" but a lot of them can't really cycle fast enough for that. They might be able to handle a buzz (depending on frequency of course) but they are really designed to just make a click.

    In short: they make the KB sound and feel more like a typewriter, which is what people were used to at the time. You can use them for other things though, too.

    If you like, I can record my 3278 beam spring which has a working solenoid, but I'll have to put the keycaps back on.

    There is a very slight delay, but it's almost imperceptible. The solenoid driver xwhatsit has puts a lot of current into it, which means it can accelerate the metal rod pretty quick. More current would make it even faster, but would require more power than USB wants to give it. The way it is now is pretty quick.

    Unfortunately, the "reset" time that it takes the solenoid spring to push the rod back to rest position can take a little bit> If you hold a key down, it will build up a buffer of clicks. This could be fixed with a different solenoid and a stronger spring as well as more current to overcome the spring force.

    Not all Beam springs have them: for example the displaywriter does not. Those 60% beams that are built into desks probably don't either but I don't know for sure. All the common ones do, to my knowledge. The IBM 3178 "model C" type of model F keyboards also have a solenoid in them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 16 September 2014, 11:55:19
    Thanks a lot DV :thumb: All my questions are answered! Now I'm looking forward to my first beamspring even more..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 16 September 2014, 12:25:19
    Are there any 75% Topre boards on the market?  I can't remember ever seeing any, but I figured I would check.  Thx...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 September 2014, 12:28:10
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 16 September 2014, 12:25:19
    Are there any 75% Topre boards on the market?

    Unless you count the 660C as a 75% board, which I don't, then there isn't. AFAIK, there are 60% boards, TKL, and full sized.

    See dorkvader's answer below.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 16 September 2014, 14:19:20
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 16 September 2014, 12:25:19
    Are there any 75% Topre boards on the market?  I can't remember ever seeing any, but I figured I would check.  Thx...
    They exist, mostly as short throw (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_Short-throw), but there aren't really any available now (or in non-japanese layouts)

    as far as available now...
    There's also this guy, but it's $68,000 yen (for the left half) and was last produced in 2004.
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Epson_Business_Full_Keyboard
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/f/fd/Epson_BFKBPS2_--_Front.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Senthura on Tue, 16 September 2014, 16:24:59
    Why might a rubber dome board give me finger cramps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 16 September 2014, 16:36:44
    Quote from: Senthura on Tue, 16 September 2014, 16:24:59
    Why might a rubber dome board give me finger cramps?

    Switch weight might be too heavy, keyboard might be at a bad angle.

    See if any of the ergo people have a better answer than I do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 16 September 2014, 16:58:14
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 16 September 2014, 16:36:44
    Quote from: Senthura on Tue, 16 September 2014, 16:24:59
    Why might a rubber dome board give me finger cramps?

    Switch weight might be too heavy, keyboard might be at a bad angle.

    See if any of the ergo people have a better answer than I do.

    Being forced to bottom out could be another factor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 16 September 2014, 18:13:33
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 16 September 2014, 14:19:20
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 16 September 2014, 12:25:19
    Are there any 75% Topre boards on the market?  I can't remember ever seeing any, but I figured I would check.  Thx...
    They exist, mostly as short throw (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_Short-throw), but there aren't really any available now (or in non-japanese layouts)

    as far as available now...
    There's also this guy, but it's $68,000 yen (for the left half) and was last produced in 2004.
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Epson_Business_Full_Keyboard
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/f/fd/Epson_BFKBPS2_--_Front.jpg)

    Wow, this thing would be epic!

    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/3/34/CKUB-MIN_-_Front.JPG)

    I am going to have to watch for one of these.

    Thanks for the quality response, this is great.

    @cptn - I have an 660C which I like, but I think I prefer a 75% layout. Still searching for 'the one'. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 September 2014, 21:41:56
    Quote from: Senthura on Tue, 16 September 2014, 16:24:59
    Why might a rubber dome board give me finger cramps?

    The bottom out, angle of the keyboard, your own posture, keyboard placement, length of time at the keyboard, and typing technique could all play a factor in this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 17 September 2014, 00:05:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 September 2014, 08:10:58
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 September 2014, 00:32:53
    Between the JD40 and the SmallFry board that Mkawa is selling, do they all have the same physical layout? 

    Would this list work for all three boards?

    Considering they're all the same PCB and plate, yes. If I understand  correctly, there is only the JD40 and SmallFry board. Both the SmallFry and the JD40s have the same plates but have a few options on the plates/cases in the form of the open plate and bottom case made from stainless, the layered stainless case, and the SmallFry's titanium plate and bottom case. I think there are a couple revisions of the PCBs. But overall, they're not that different. I don't there's a difference between the JD40 and what CTRL[ALT] is selling besides a updated PCB.

    Anyways, since there's only one layout, and that quote is from JD himself that list would work. If you see this JD, please correct any of my mistakes :).

    Thanks, CBA.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xprongs on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:33:36
    I can't seem to find anything on this topic anywhere else - are the Leopold numpads sold at Geekkeys (such as this one: http://www.geekkeys.com/leopold-fc210tp-21-key-numpad-grey/) still "faulty" in that they send numrow instead of numpad?

    Cheers in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:39:51
    Quote from: xprongs on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:33:36
    I can't seem to find anything on this topic anywhere else - are the Leopold numpads sold at Geekkeys (such as this one: http://www.geekkeys.com/leopold-fc210tp-21-key-numpad-grey/) still "faulty" in that they send numrow instead of numpad?

    Sorry I'm not following your question. Are you saying that those Leopold tenkeypads were shipping with the wrong keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:42:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:39:51
    Quote from: xprongs on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:33:36
    I can't seem to find anything on this topic anywhere else - are the Leopold numpads sold at Geekkeys (such as this one: http://www.geekkeys.com/leopold-fc210tp-21-key-numpad-grey/ (http://www.geekkeys.com/leopold-fc210tp-21-key-numpad-grey/)) still "faulty" in that they send numrow instead of numpad?

    Sorry I'm not following your question. Are you saying that those Leopold tenkeypads were shipping with the wrong keycaps?

    He wants to know which scan code set the keypad sends. The numberpad set which is what most people want or the number row set which is how many of these newer pads seem to be programmed.

    My suggestion would be to try and contact user feng  (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=9194)as that's his store and see if he can test it for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:45:26
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 17 September 2014, 07:42:23
    He wants to know which scan code set the keypad sends. The numberpad set which is what most people want or the number row set which is how many of these newer pads seem to be programmed.

    My suggestion would be to try and contact user feng  (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=9194)as that's his store and see if he can test it for you.

    Ah now I understand. I agree, I think asking Feng might be the easiest way to find your answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 002 on Wed, 17 September 2014, 09:35:03
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 16 September 2014, 18:13:33
    Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 16 September 2014, 14:19:20
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 16 September 2014, 12:25:19
    Are there any 75% Topre boards on the market?  I can't remember ever seeing any, but I figured I would check.  Thx...
    They exist, mostly as short throw (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_Short-throw), but there aren't really any available now (or in non-japanese layouts)

    as far as available now...
    There's also this guy, but it's $68,000 yen (for the left half) and was last produced in 2004.
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Epson_Business_Full_Keyboard
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/f/fd/Epson_BFKBPS2_--_Front.jpg)

    Wow, this thing would be epic!

    Here's (http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g143941025) your chance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 September 2014, 09:49:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 September 2014, 08:10:58
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 September 2014, 00:32:53
    Between the JD40 and the SmallFry board that Mkawa is selling, do they all have the same physical layout? 

    Would this list work for all three boards?

    Considering they're all the same PCB and plate, yes. If I understand  correctly, there is only the JD40 and SmallFry board. Both the SmallFry and the JD40s have the same plates but have a few options on the plates/cases in the form of the open plate and bottom case made from stainless, the layered stainless case, and the SmallFry's titanium plate and bottom case. I think there are a couple revisions of the PCBs. But overall, they're not that different. I don't there's a difference between the JD40 and what CTRL[ALT] is selling besides a updated PCB.

    Anyways, since there's only one layout, and that quote is from JD himself that list would work. If you see this JD, please correct any of my mistakes :).

    JD40, JD40 @ [CTRL]ALT, and SmallFry GB all use the exact same PCB. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 17 September 2014, 18:06:06
    Hey, i would ask if it sounds normal
    I got very recently a Ducky Shine S3 in MX-Red
    One key does have strange feeling
    When you do bottom-out, it feels like any other keys.
    At the first steps of travel of key when you pressing it very lightly, it has somehow a kind of resistance.
    You could actually feel switch/key having some friction.
    It also makes an noticeable click sound despite of having MX-Red which are common known for being nicely quiet when you not pressing them loudly
    I dont think its either a ping issue
    I removed faulty key and inverted with another key, same case happened
    So i took a closer look at switch itself, light pressing makes what i explained above.
    I maybe upload video if needed
    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 September 2014, 07:04:25


    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 17 September 2014, 18:06:06
    Hey, i would ask if it sounds normal
    I got very recently a Ducky Shine S3 in MX-Red

    One key does have strange feeling
    When you do bottom-out, it feels like any other keys.
    At the first steps of travel of key when you pressing it very lightly, it has somehow a kind of resistance.
    You could actually feel switch/key having some friction.

    It also makes an noticeable click sound

    I dont think its either a ping issue
    I removed faulty key and inverted with another key, same case happened

    Its odd you've got a Red that clicks. I've also been typing in reds for a few months and I have found that they're not really that smooth. I do feel a little resistance and friction when I press down in my board at work.

    If it's just one switch it could be a manufacturing issue. Sometimes switches need a break in period. I think your options are too either try typing in the board for a week to see if it fixes itself, replace the switch, or ask for a refund/exchange.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:51:23
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 15 September 2014, 05:20:42
    Acrylic is available in 1.5mm, but is too fragile and bends too easily even for small sized boards, as a bare minimum, I would recommend 2mm, and 3mm or more for larger setups like full size, 122-key.
    unfortunatelly 1,5mm+ can't handle the stabs :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:53:49
    if the MDF 1,5mm is strong enough to plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:55:04
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:53:49
    if the MDF 1,5mm is strong enough to plate?

    Perhaps but I wouldn't use MDF for a keyboard plate. Just a personal preference thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 18 September 2014, 12:40:38
    I need to find a good keyboard test tool program for testing keyswitch failure rate. Any ideas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 18 September 2014, 12:41:43
    Quote from: 00zeRO on Thu, 18 September 2014, 12:40:38
    I need to find a good keyboard test tool program for testing keyswitch failure rate. Any ideas?

    aquakeytest.com is the one that I use but not sure how viable it will be for your application.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 18 September 2014, 12:42:21
    Quote from: 00zeRO on Thu, 18 September 2014, 12:40:38
    I need to find a good keyboard test tool program for testing keyswitch failure rate. Any ideas?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=6643.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=6643.0)

    also https://elitekeyboards.com/switchhitter.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 September 2014, 12:44:27
    Quote from: 00zeRO on Thu, 18 September 2014, 12:40:38
    I need to find a good keyboard test tool program for testing keyswitch failure rate. Any ideas?

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 18 September 2014, 12:42:21
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=6643.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=6643.0)

    also https://elitekeyboards.com/switchhitter.php


    That Switch Hitter program is what Margo Baggins recommends to check failures and debounce issues. I've only used Aqua Key Test myself but the Switch Hitter program sounds interesting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 18 September 2014, 14:57:43
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:51:23
    Quote from: MOZ on Mon, 15 September 2014, 05:20:42
    Acrylic is available in 1.5mm, but is too fragile and bends too easily even for small sized boards, as a bare minimum, I would recommend 2mm, and 3mm or more for larger setups like full size, 122-key.
    unfortunatelly 1,5mm+ can't handle the stabs :-X
    Yes, that is an issue, and I would recommend PCB stabs if you have to use a plate that will be more than 1.5mm due to material constraints, and if you have to use plate-mounted stabs, then go with a material tat can be used at 1.5mm for plates. Otherwise you have to mod the stabs (Trim them and then glue them)

    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:53:49
    if the MDF 1,5mm is strong enough to plate?
    I would doubt it, as MDF isn't as durable at that thickness, IIRC ming said the same during one of the podcasts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 19 September 2014, 02:05:25
    Quote from: MOZ on Thu, 18 September 2014, 14:57:43
    Yes, that is an issue, and I would recommend PCB stabs if you have to use a plate that will be more than 1.5mm due to material constraints, and if you have to use plate-mounted stabs, then go with a material tat can be used at 1.5mm for plates. Otherwise you have to mod the stabs (Trim them and then glue them)
    and the switchs can't "snap"easily dislodged :-X so i should glue them :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jacobolus on Fri, 19 September 2014, 02:34:12
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:53:49
    if the MDF 1,5mm is strong enough to plate?
    Why would you use MDF? At the size of a keyboard, just buy some nice hardwood. Cutting time is going to cost more than the materials here.

    For lasered acrylic, I recommend using a 1.5mm (or 1/16") sheet, with a thicker (2.5mm or 1/8") sheet with holes cut a bit larger to not interfere with switches / stabilizer clips immediately below the first one and the two sheets screwed together (possibly with others sheets in a lister-style case).

    The two sheets screwed together are sufficiently rigid to make the keyboard work pretty well. It works better than either a thin sheet alone (which is much too flimsy) or a thick sheet alone (which doesn’t let the switches clip in properly).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: koalapear on Fri, 19 September 2014, 03:16:26
    Where could I find some MX black springs? I have a bunch of reds lying around and I want blacks (or reds that feel like blacks) for a project I'm working on but don't want to shell out the money for new switches if I don't have to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 19 September 2014, 03:49:17
    Quote from: jacobolus on Fri, 19 September 2014, 02:34:12
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:53:49
    if the MDF 1,5mm is strong enough to plate?
    Why would you use MDF? At the size of a keyboard, just buy some nice hardwood. Cutting time is going to cost more than the materials here.

    For lasered acrylic, I recommend using a 1.5mm (or 1/16") sheet, with a thicker (2.5mm or 1/8") sheet with holes cut a bit larger to not interfere with switches / stabilizer clips immediately below the first one and the two sheets screwed together (possibly with others sheets in a lister-style case).

    The two sheets screwed together are sufficiently rigid to make the keyboard work pretty well. It works better than either a thin sheet alone (which is much too flimsy) or a thick sheet alone (which doesn’t let the switches clip in properly).
    no acrylic 1.5mm, i want tried MDF if strong enough,

    so, double plate? :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 September 2014, 05:49:08
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 19 September 2014, 03:49:17
    Quote from: jacobolus on Fri, 19 September 2014, 02:34:12
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:53:49
    if the MDF 1,5mm is strong enough to plate?
    Why would you use MDF? At the size of a keyboard, just buy some nice hardwood. Cutting time is going to cost more than the materials here.

    For lasered acrylic, I recommend using a 1.5mm (or 1/16") sheet, with a thicker (2.5mm or 1/8") sheet with holes cut a bit larger to not interfere with switches / stabilizer clips immediately below the first one and the two sheets screwed together (possibly with others sheets in a lister-style case).

    The two sheets screwed together are sufficiently rigid to make the keyboard work pretty well. It works better than either a thin sheet alone (which is much too flimsy) or a thick sheet alone (which doesn’t let the switches clip in properly).
    no acrylic 1.5mm, i want tried MDF if strong enough,

    so, double plate? :-X
    Nah that definitely won't work. You'll need to find another material I think. But if you're so determined to try it perhaps you can experiment and b tell us how it works out for you.

    Quote from: koalapear on Fri, 19 September 2014, 03:16:26
    Where could I find some MX black springs?

    Maybe someone will give you some in the free stuff thread? Otherwise I think techkeys or Mk.Com has blacks you can harvest from. Or you can find cheap boards on eBay with blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Fri, 19 September 2014, 13:15:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 September 2014, 07:04:25


    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 17 September 2014, 18:06:06
    Hey, i would ask if it sounds normal
    I got very recently a Ducky Shine S3 in MX-Red

    One key does have strange feeling
    When you do bottom-out, it feels like any other keys.
    At the first steps of travel of key when you pressing it very lightly, it has somehow a kind of resistance.
    You could actually feel switch/key having some friction.

    It also makes an noticeable click sound

    I dont think its either a ping issue
    I removed faulty key and inverted with another key, same case happened

    Its odd you've got a Red that clicks. I've also been typing in reds for a few months and I have found that they're not really that smooth. I do feel a little resistance and friction when I press down in my board at work.

    If it's just one switch it could be a manufacturing issue. Sometimes switches need a break in period. I think your options are too either try typing in the board for a week to see if it fixes itself, replace the switch, or ask for a refund/exchange.
    Not a valid vimeo URLwhat do you think?
    sorry for bad audio quality, filmed through smartphone


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 September 2014, 16:58:37
    Quote from: ajx on Fri, 19 September 2014, 13:15:00
    Not a valid vimeo URLwhat do you think?
    sorry for bad audio quality, filmed through smartphone

    My previous answer still stands. Seems like you have a bad switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 22:43:51
    Anyone know what kind of switches are in the Cherry G81-8000LPDUS-2? All the Cherry website says is "mechanical switches".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 19 September 2014, 22:45:44
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 22:43:51
    Anyone know what kind of switches are in the Cherry G81-8000LPDUS-2? All the Cherry website says is "mechanical switches".

    G81=MY switches, though there are rare exceptions to the numbers like an MX G83.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 23:00:45
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 19 September 2014, 22:45:44
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 22:43:51
    Anyone know what kind of switches are in the Cherry G81-8000LPDUS-2? All the Cherry website says is "mechanical switches".

    G81=MY switches, though there are rare exceptions to the numbers like an MX G83.

    Are most G83 boards also MY?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 19 September 2014, 23:06:01
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 23:00:45
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 19 September 2014, 22:45:44
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 22:43:51
    Anyone know what kind of switches are in the Cherry G81-8000LPDUS-2? All the Cherry website says is "mechanical switches".

    G81=MY switches, though there are rare exceptions to the numbers like an MX G83.

    Are most G83 boards also MY?

    G83 = rubber dome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 23:09:24
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 19 September 2014, 23:06:01
    G83 = rubber dome.

    Great, thanks a lot. Should help me sort through the hundreds of keyboards on ebay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 20 September 2014, 02:50:03
    When handwiring a keyboard matrix, which pins on Teensy 2.0/++ are unable to be used for the rows/columns?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nahka on Sat, 20 September 2014, 10:10:30
    My Ducky Shine's spacebar is starting to rattle, I guess it's the stabilizers. Is it a matter of just lubing it?

    I reaaaally don't want to have to take it off since the stabilizers are mounted to the plate in Duckies...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 20 September 2014, 10:18:47
    Quote from: nahka on Sat, 20 September 2014, 10:10:30
    My Ducky Shine's spacebar is starting to rattle, I guess it's the stabilizers. Is it a matter of just lubing it?

    I reaaaally don't want to have to take it off since the stabilizers are mounted to the plate in Duckies...

    Check if the stabilizers are seated correctly. Cherry stabs shouldn't rattle.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 20 September 2014, 12:25:15
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 20 September 2014, 02:50:03
    When handwiring a keyboard matrix, which pins on Teensy 2.0/++ are unable to be used for the rows/columns?

    I think it's just the power / ground and reset pins (the ones on the end mainly) I know other pins (for leds I guess) have less current available or something, but ron's using one of them on the GH36 and he says it works fine for him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 22 September 2014, 10:25:26
    3 LED's on my Lightsaver already failed...is it common for LED's to fail? I noticed on one of them it started flickering at a very high rate just before it died.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 September 2014, 10:29:59
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 23:09:24
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 19 September 2014, 23:06:01
    G83 = rubber dome.

    Great, thanks a lot. Should help me sort through the hundreds of keyboards on ebay.

    You may also be interested in this DT Wiki page (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers).

    Quote from: digi on Mon, 22 September 2014, 10:25:26
    3 LED's on my Lightsaver already failed...is it common for LED's to fail? I noticed on one of them it started flickering at a very high rate just before it died.

    Hmm...I've never had one die on me before. I'm not 100% sure though so hopefully someone else has experience that they can share.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 22 September 2014, 11:07:37
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 22 September 2014, 10:25:26
    3 LED's on my Lightsaver already failed...is it common for LED's to fail? I noticed on one of them it started flickering at a very high rate just before it died.

    I've burnt out a few LEDs and this is typically what happens.  It's odd though, because it has happened in scenarios where the circuit was setup specifically for that LED spec, so I'm not sure what went wrong.  Maybe there are just bad LEDs that were never meant to be?  And maybe there are bad batches that have more of these than is typical?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 22 September 2014, 12:30:41
    Thanks for the info CPT & Hoff...I'm not sure what the deal is, they were working fine when the board showed up just a week or two ago and then suddenly I they started dying out. I'm trying to figure out if there is a better distributor/brand for led's than maybe the cheapies on eBay or if this is just common with led's in general?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 September 2014, 12:34:21
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 22 September 2014, 12:30:41
    I'm trying to figure out if there is a better distributor/brand for led's than maybe the cheapies on eBay or if this is just common with led's in general?

    I wonder if the cheap stuff has a higher than 5-10% failure rate that one would expect in general.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:06:31
    Anyone know if there are other boards out there with buzzers/beepers like the kishsaver has?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:11:59
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:06:31
    Anyone know if there are other boards out there with buzzers/beepers like the kishsaver has?

    It seems like there are a lot of older boards that have the solenoids or buzzers. If I understood correctly, it was to make it louder for people who were used to typewriters. I know for sure that most beamspring boards had them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 22 September 2014, 14:27:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:11:59
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:06:31
    Anyone know if there are other boards out there with buzzers/beepers like the kishsaver has?

    It seems like there are a lot of older boards that have the solenoids or buzzers. If I understood correctly, it was to make it louder for people who were used to typewriters. I know for sure that most beamspring boards had them.

    a lot of older terminal boards (and some model Ms!) have speakers in them for the terminal bell. Televideo, etc. common to see.

    Some kbs, wang, beamspring, IBM 3178, kinesis, and the zenith alps one (zkb2 i think) all have clickers or buzzers or solenoids in them to tell you the switch has actuated. This is either to make it more like a typewriter or to help you with linear switches. Even the ergodox can be configured with one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lazerpointer on Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:17:10
    Is there anything like the Ducky 1087 Green XM ALPs out there these days?

    Really missing the super-light and crunchy-sounding switches :/ (a family member donated mine to some faraway charity without my knowledge, about a month ago...)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:21:27
    Quote from: lazerpointer on Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:17:10
    Is there anything like the Ducky 1087 Green XM ALPs out there these days?

    Really missing the super-light and crunchy-sounding switches :/ (a family member donated mine to some faraway charity without my knowledge, about a month ago...)

    I have a bag of those green XMs that I will sell you for cheap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:49:55
    So when I was at the post office today I was really eye balling the keyboards she was using and listening to the key strokes.  It looks like a G80-11900 but it was white with what looked and sounded like pbt caps with MX blacks.

    Looking around on the DT wiki it was saying that the 11900 was only done in black but the 11800 has the wrong layout.  The boards at the post office have the track pad with 3 and 4 single unit keys on the bottom row.

    Any ideas what they could be?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:52:22
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:49:55
    So when I was at the post office today I was really eye balling the keyboards she was using and listening to the key strokes.  It looks like a G80-11900 but it was white with what looked and sounded like pbt caps with MX blacks.

    Looking around on the DT wiki it was saying that the 11900 was only done in black but the 11800 has the wrong layout.  The boards at the post office have the track pad with 3 and 4 single unit keys on the bottom row.

    Any ideas what they could be?

    Cherry 11900 in White (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/industrial/11900/index.htm)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:40:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 22 September 2014, 18:49:55

    it was saying that the 11900 was only done in black


    I have had 2-3 of those and they were all white, including one re-branded as "APC"

    Wish the layout was better, I love the trackpad. But those function keys and 6-pack, ARRGH!

    Yoked to a cheap double-PS/2-to-USB adapter and they worked perfectly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 22 September 2014, 20:28:28
    APC? (http://usonline.apc.fr/)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 22 September 2014, 20:32:41
    this one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 22 September 2014, 20:33:22
    Thanks guys.

    Any suggestions on how to sort between mechanical and rubber dome versions of WYSE and rebranded versions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 22 September 2014, 20:43:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 22 September 2014, 20:33:22
    Thanks guys.

    Any suggestions on how to sort between mechanical and rubber dome versions of WYSE and rebranded versions?

    The Wyse RD look like your more bog standard RD boards from what I've seen.  The mechanical ones, at least the MX, tend to be discernible by their layout (some, for example, have the left side function keys) and the key caps.  They also have some Alps boards, but those are less common.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 22 September 2014, 22:25:55
    "enyoy your feeling" on spacebar poker2has been removed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 September 2014, 22:33:46
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 22 September 2014, 14:27:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:11:59
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 22 September 2014, 13:06:31
    Anyone know if there are other boards out there with buzzers/beepers like the kishsaver has?

    It seems like there are a lot of older boards that have the solenoids or buzzers. If I understood correctly, it was to make it louder for people who were used to typewriters. I know for sure that most beamspring boards had them.

    a lot of older terminal boards (and some model Ms!) have speakers in them for the terminal bell. Televideo, etc. common to see.

    Some kbs, wang, beamspring, IBM 3178, kinesis, and the zenith alps one (zkb2 i think) all have clickers or buzzers or solenoids in them to tell you the switch has actuated. This is either to make it more like a typewriter or to help you with linear switches. Even the ergodox can be configured with one.

    That's what ASCII character 7 is for! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 September 2014, 07:29:27
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 22 September 2014, 22:25:55
    "enyoy your feeling" on spacebar poker2has been removed?

    I believe so. But I love that spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 23 September 2014, 08:40:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 September 2014, 07:29:27
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 22 September 2014, 22:25:55
    "enyoy your feeling" on spacebar poker2has been removed?

    I believe so. But I love that spacebar.
    yup :-X
    (http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb164/digicoretech/Vortex/pb_zps10afa541.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:04:17
    Didn't want to create a new thread for this, how are clears for gaming?
    When I switched from reds to browns my pinky got fatigued when holding shift to spring in most games. I got used to that, I really want a switch that I don't bottom out all the time though. I've been trying to not bottom out all the time though, kind of tough to do and keep a good wpm while doing so.
    And what are the lightest possible springs I can run on clears without it sticking? Thinking of swapping for clears on my shine. Kind of scared of ****ing something up....

    And how much is the solder machine?

    And how to use a solder remover?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:19:46
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:04:17
    Didn't want to create a new thread for this, how are clears for gaming?
    When I switched from reds to browns my pinky got fatigued when holding shift to spring in most games. I got used to that, I really want a switch that I don't bottom out all the time though. I've been trying to not bottom out all the time though, kind of tough to do and keep a good wpm while doing so.
    And what are the lightest possible springs I can run on clears without it sticking? Thinking of swapping for clears on my shine. Kind of scared of ****ing something up....

    And how much is the solder machine?

    And how to use a solder remover?

    I have used red/blue/brown springs in clears with no lube with no sticking.  But the clears were very well used.  When using new clear stems lube will be required for that light of springs.  Most people here seem to prefer 62g springs for ergo clears.

    For what its worth I use reds on WASD in my orbweaver with clears everywhere else.

    On the soldering questions I would recommend having a look at the "Living Soldering Thread" in the making stuff together sub forum.  Please read the OP as it has a lot of good info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:22:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:19:46
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:04:17
    Didn't want to create a new thread for this, how are clears for gaming?
    When I switched from reds to browns my pinky got fatigued when holding shift to spring in most games. I got used to that, I really want a switch that I don't bottom out all the time though. I've been trying to not bottom out all the time though, kind of tough to do and keep a good wpm while doing so.
    And what are the lightest possible springs I can run on clears without it sticking? Thinking of swapping for clears on my shine. Kind of scared of ****ing something up....

    And how much is the solder machine?

    And how to use a solder remover?

    I have used red/blue/brown springs in clears with no lube with no sticking.  But the clears were very well used.  When using new clear stems lube will be required for that light of springs.  Most people here seem to prefer 62g springs for ergo clears.

    For what its worth I use reds on WASD in my orbweaver with clears everywhere else.

    On the soldering questions I would recommend having a look at the "Living Soldering Thread" in the making stuff together sub forum.  Please read the OP as it has a lot of good info.
    Will do!
    What kind of lube would I need?
    I have valve oil from my old trumpet lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:32:17
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:22:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:19:46
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:04:17
    Didn't want to create a new thread for this, how are clears for gaming?
    When I switched from reds to browns my pinky got fatigued when holding shift to spring in most games. I got used to that, I really want a switch that I don't bottom out all the time though. I've been trying to not bottom out all the time though, kind of tough to do and keep a good wpm while doing so.
    And what are the lightest possible springs I can run on clears without it sticking? Thinking of swapping for clears on my shine. Kind of scared of ****ing something up....

    And how much is the solder machine?

    And how to use a solder remover?

    I have used red/blue/brown springs in clears with no lube with no sticking.  But the clears were very well used.  When using new clear stems lube will be required for that light of springs.  Most people here seem to prefer 62g springs for ergo clears.

    For what its worth I use reds on WASD in my orbweaver with clears everywhere else.

    On the soldering questions I would recommend having a look at the "Living Soldering Thread" in the making stuff together sub forum.  Please read the OP as it has a lot of good info.
    Will do!
    What kind of lube would I need?
    I have valve oil from my old trumpet lol.

    The only oil/grease I would recommend is Krytox.  Check WWW.geekhackers.org (run by mkawa) or ctrlalt.io (BunnyLake is the front man here) though I believe his sit is under construction at the moment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:34:51
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:32:17
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:22:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:19:46
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:04:17
    Didn't want to create a new thread for this, how are clears for gaming?
    When I switched from reds to browns my pinky got fatigued when holding shift to spring in most games. I got used to that, I really want a switch that I don't bottom out all the time though. I've been trying to not bottom out all the time though, kind of tough to do and keep a good wpm while doing so.
    And what are the lightest possible springs I can run on clears without it sticking? Thinking of swapping for clears on my shine. Kind of scared of ****ing something up....

    And how much is the solder machine?

    And how to use a solder remover?

    I have used red/blue/brown springs in clears with no lube with no sticking.  But the clears were very well used.  When using new clear stems lube will be required for that light of springs.  Most people here seem to prefer 62g springs for ergo clears.

    For what its worth I use reds on WASD in my orbweaver with clears everywhere else.

    On the soldering questions I would recommend having a look at the "Living Soldering Thread" in the making stuff together sub forum.  Please read the OP as it has a lot of good info.
    Will do!
    What kind of lube would I need?
    I have valve oil from my old trumpet lol.

    The only oil/grease I would recommend is Krytox.  Check WWW.geekhackers.org (run by mkawa) or ctrlalt.io (BunnyLake is the front man here) though I believe his sit is under construction at the moment.
    Thank you! Will be reading up and hopefully will do the swap one day (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_096_K.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:35:33
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:04:17
    1) How are clears for gaming?

    2) And what are the lightest possible springs I can run on clears without it sticking?

    3) And how much is the solder machine?

    4) And how to use a solder remover?

    1) They're fine for me. I don't have any issues. But I prefer heavier switches.

    2) I find that the stock red/blue/brown and 55g aftermarket springs can be sticky. 62g seems to be the lowest in my experience.

    3) I paid $40ish for my Hakko 936 but you could use a Radio Shack/Harbor Freight iron if you really wanted. I highly recommend you get a Weller WLC100 at the minimum though.

    4) I highly suggest purchasing a Soldapullt from Geekhackers.org. It's around $20.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:52:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:35:33
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:04:17
    1) How are clears for gaming?

    2) And what are the lightest possible springs I can run on clears without it sticking?

    3) And how much is the solder machine?

    4) And how to use a solder remover?

    1) They're fine for me. I don't have any issues. But I prefer heavier switches.

    2) I find that the stock red/blue/brown and 55g aftermarket springs can be sticky. 62g seems to be the lowest in my experience.

    3) I paid $40ish for my Hakko 936 but you could use a Radio Shack/Harbor Freight iron if you really wanted. I highly recommend you get a Weller WLC100 at the minimum though.

    4) I highly suggest purchasing a Soldapullt from Geekhackers.org. It's around $20.
    What's the difference between the Weller vs a AOYUE 469?

    I'll try stock clears for a few months first then :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 23 September 2014, 20:05:09
    Aoyue is a cheap knock off of Hakko iirc.  Hakko is very well known for quality and reliability.  I have a Weller and it has served me very well.  The only issue I have had with it was when I left it on for a couple days and killed the tip but that was no fault of the unit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 24 September 2014, 06:16:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 23 September 2014, 20:05:09
    Aoyue is a cheap knock off of Hakko iirc.  Hakko is very well known for quality and reliability.  I have a Weller and it has served me very well.  The only issue I have had with it was when I left it on for a couple days and killed the tip but that was no fault of the unit.
    Oh okay thanks!

    As for disassembly would I need to touch the dip switches?
    And I hear leds are rather tedious to solder... Lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 24 September 2014, 07:22:59
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Wed, 24 September 2014, 06:16:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 23 September 2014, 20:05:09
    Aoyue is a cheap knock off of Hakko iirc.  Hakko is very well known for quality and reliability.  I have a Weller and it has served me very well.  The only issue I have had with it was when I left it on for a couple days and killed the tip but that was no fault of the unit.
    Oh okay thanks!

    As for disassembly would I need to touch the dip switches?
    And I hear leds are rather tedious to solder... Lol

    i can't say for sure but i don't think so.  Leds are a pain but not to bad with one of the soldeapults from geekhackers.org.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 September 2014, 07:37:08
    Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Wed, 24 September 2014, 06:16:32
    1) What's the difference between the Weller vs a AOYUE 469?
    2) As for disassembly would I need to touch the dip switches?
    3) And I hear leds are rather tedious to solder

    1) I highly suggest *not* getting an Aoyue soldering iron. They're not very good quality clones of Wellers or Hakkos. I believe photekq put a huge hole in his PCB because the iron wasn't heating correctly.

    2) No

    3) Yup, anything related to keyboard modding is tedious in my opinion. Doesn't mean I don't like modding; I love it. But it is tedious.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 24 September 2014, 09:40:11
    Thanks guys!
    Hopefully be buying the switches and solder equipment :) 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 24 September 2014, 09:59:41
    my left hand when stretched, it feels like a pulled, it's CPT or Pinched Nerve?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 September 2014, 10:02:40
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 24 September 2014, 09:59:41
    my left hand when stretched, it feels like a pulled, it's CPT or Pinched Nerve?

    Not really keyboard related. Maybe you overextended your hand or maybe you're developing RSI? Regardless, a keyboard forum isn't where you should be asking questions about your health. Hopefully you can find a doctor and then if you think you need it, check out the ergonomics subforum for some help with ergonomic keyboarding.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:07:16
    Now that I've read a little into soldering, the only real thing I'd be worried about is over heating or scraped the trace...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BakaPhoenix on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:11:13
    I need to change some led on my keyboard i wanted to put the socket like thing so can swap led in future without soldering everytime.
    Anyone know the name of this item? and where i can find it?
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:48:15

    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:11:13
    I need to change some led on my keyboard i wanted to put the socket like thing so can swap led in future without soldering everytime.
    Anyone know the name of this item? and where i can find it?
    Thanks

    They are called SIP sockets and can be purchased on eBay in large quantities. Though you will want to clip off the black enclosure so they fit properly. Information can be found around the forums on that, or I can link you when I'm off mobile.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:57:28
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:48:15
    Or I can link you when I'm off mobile.  :thumb:

    I got you buddy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 25 September 2014, 00:25:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:57:28
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:48:15
    Or I can link you when I'm off mobile.  :thumb:

    I got you buddy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0)

    Yay thanks!   :-*

    I had actually forgotten.   :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 25 September 2014, 01:15:58
    5x14 matrix is enough with pro micro?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BakaPhoenix on Thu, 25 September 2014, 10:44:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:57:28
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:48:15
    Or I can link you when I'm off mobile.  :thumb:

    I got you buddy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0)

    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:48:15

    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Wed, 24 September 2014, 17:11:13
    I need to change some led on my keyboard i wanted to put the socket like thing so can swap led in future without soldering everytime.
    Anyone know the name of this item? and where i can find it?
    Thanks

    They are called SIP sockets and can be purchased on eBay in large quantities. Though you will want to clip off the black enclosure so they fit properly. Information can be found around the forums on that, or I can link you when I'm off mobile.  :thumb:

    Thanks both of you!
    I found them on ebay. Is 2.54mm ok or I need to find another type?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 September 2014, 11:20:44
    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Thu, 25 September 2014, 10:44:42
    I found them on ebay. Is 2.54mm ok or I need to find another type?

    Looks like this post has more information. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.msg1413823#msg1413823)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 25 September 2014, 14:33:42
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 25 September 2014, 01:15:58
    5x14 matrix is enough with pro micro?

    (http://i.imgur.com/wMNx2u6.png)
    5*14 is 21 pins so you will need to wire it differently (like 8* 10, it has 18 pins you can use I think) but I don't know if it is enough for you. If you desolder LED and jumper a wire to the pad, I think you can use 2 more but I don't recommend it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 18:56:32
    Has anyone other than Ducky made blue/gray Cherry MX PBT like this? http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_474_large_472_DuckyDYE_blMAIN.jpg

    I want to pick up a set like that, but I can't abide the duck winkey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Thu, 25 September 2014, 20:08:59
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 18:56:32
    Has anyone other than Ducky made blue/gray Cherry MX PBT like this? http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_474_large_472_DuckyDYE_blMAIN.jpg

    I want to pick up a set like that, but I can't abide the duck winkey.

    imsto had a full set of black on blue dyesub + black on gray dyesub keycaps. Would require buying two sets though. 

    Black on gray
    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=59

    Black on blue w/ hangul - I think the non-hangul ones sold out
    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=62
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 25 September 2014, 20:22:26
    Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 25 September 2014, 20:08:59
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 18:56:32
    Has anyone other than Ducky made blue/gray Cherry MX PBT like this? http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_474_large_472_DuckyDYE_blMAIN.jpg

    I want to pick up a set like that, but I can't abide the duck winkey.

    imsto had a full set of black on blue dyesub + black on gray dyesub keycaps. Would require buying two sets though. 

    Black on gray
    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=59

    Black on blue w/ hangul - I think the non-hangul ones sold out
    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=62

    I have a few of the Blue Dye-sub sets from IMSTO.  They are really nice as long as you get a straight spacebar.

    I have read ways to fix it (bent spacebars), but it didn't work out to good for me.   Still, they are some of my favorite Keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 26 September 2014, 21:38:53
    Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 25 September 2014, 14:33:42
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 25 September 2014, 01:15:58
    5x14 matrix is enough with pro micro?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wMNx2u6.png)

    5*14 is 21 pins so you will need to wire it differently (like 8* 10, it has 18 pins you can use I think) but I don't know if it is enough for you. If you desolder LED and jumper a wire to the pad, I think you can use 2 more but I don't recommend it.
    what if I make a promicro for two boards, it's can? i plan pro micro for left hand side
    how if i buy promicro again for right side? it's make sense two controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Fri, 26 September 2014, 21:43:55
    Will there ever be another run of LZ boards on GH?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 26 September 2014, 21:45:21
    Quote from: Elocutive on Fri, 26 September 2014, 21:43:55
    Will there ever be another run of LZ boards on GH?

    Doubtful considering at least three names that I know of were banned a while back.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 26 September 2014, 22:01:10
    Quote from: Elocutive on Fri, 26 September 2014, 21:43:55
    Will there ever be another run of LZ boards on GH?

    unless elton runs it, no

    and i can say with confidence that he probably won't

    :triangle:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:35:34
    If I hold down a key on my Ducky, it repeats way too fast. If I hold down backspace to delete a couple of words, for example, it ends up deleting almost the entire paragraph. It is very annoying and it started after using my Cherry G80 on my computer. The Cherry G80 acts normally, it is only the Ducky with the issue. Any idea what may have happened to the Ducky?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:42:08
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:35:34
    If I hold down a key on my Ducky, it repeats way too fast. If I hold down backspace to delete a couple of words, for example, it ends up deleting almost the entire paragraph. It is very annoying and it started after using my Cherry G80 on my computer. The Cherry G80 acts normally, it is only the Ducky with the issue. Any idea what may have happened to the Ducky?

    The repeat rate probably got changed by accident (or during testing for QC etc.). Press Fn + F1 and then Fn + F5, that should reset it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:50:47
    What is duck's website where you can actually buy his boards? Duck the Korean custom maker not ducky  :p
    Edit: would also like the link to buying kmacs from Korea
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Premonition on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:56:50
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:50:47
    What is duck's website where you can actually buy his boards? Duck the Korean custom maker not ducky  :p

    Here's his website (http://duck0113.tistory.com/), but he doesn't sell them complete afaik, only in group buys.
    EDIT: Fixed, must have copied my bookmark URL somehow..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:03:00
    Quote from: Premonition on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:56:50
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:50:47
    What is duck's website where you can actually buy his boards? Duck the Korean custom maker not ducky  :p

    Here's his website (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3021672), but he doesn't sell them complete afaik, only in group buys.
    That's a league of legends forum link haha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:11:58
    What type of MX switches are in Cherry boards ending with LRAUS?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:22:06
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:11:58
    What type of MX switches are in Cherry boards ending with LRAUS?

    Blacks or clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Premonition on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:39:30
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:03:00
    Quote from: Premonition on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:56:50
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:50:47
    What is duck's website where you can actually buy his boards? Duck the Korean custom maker not ducky  :p

    Here's his website (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3021672), but he doesn't sell them complete afaik, only in group buys.
    That's a league of legends forum link haha

    WTF. Lemme fix that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:06:49
    Quote from: Premonition on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:39:30
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:03:00
    Quote from: Premonition on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:56:50
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:50:47
    What is duck's website where you can actually buy his boards? Duck the Korean custom maker not ducky  :p

    Here's his website (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3021672), but he doesn't sell them complete afaik, only in group buys.
    That's a league of legends forum link haha
    Huh. I'm almost positive I saw a website once that was selling kingsavers, lighsavers, minis, and vipers. Maybe I was wrong. What is the link to the KMAC store? It is Korean and I am positive that I have seen that before, but I can't find it now.

    WTF. Lemme fix that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:10:57
    kbd4u.co.kr

    You can't order from there though.  It's only for people in S. Korea.  You can email the owner who is truecustom himself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:12:41
    Quote from: elton5354 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:10:57
    kbd4u.co.kr

    You can't order from there though.  It's only for people in S. Korea.  You can email the owner who is truecustom himself.
    Thank you. I was positive I had seen it somewhere.
    EDIT: Do you know where I could buy a cheat or a kmac other than classifieds? do they have korean websites for them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:13:55
    Every time I start up my computer with my poker 2 plugged in it needs to be reconnected or else it cannot work. Any fixes on this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:15:33
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:13:55
    Every time I start up my computer with my poker 2 plugged in it needs to be reconnected or else it cannot work. Any fixes on this?

    Is it plugged into a hub or an external device or directly connected to your PC?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:16:50
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:22:06
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 27 September 2014, 17:11:58
    What type of MX switches are in Cherry boards ending with LRAUS?

    Blacks or clears.

    Thanks  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:32:56

    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:15:33
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:13:55
    Every time I start up my computer with my poker 2 plugged in it needs to be reconnected or else it cannot work. Any fixes on this?

    Is it plugged into a hub or an external device or directly connected to your PC?
    Directly connected.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:33:53
    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:32:56
    Directly connected.

    Might be an OS/driver issue? Not sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:36:07
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:42:08
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:35:34
    If I hold down a key on my Ducky, it repeats way too fast. If I hold down backspace to delete a couple of words, for example, it ends up deleting almost the entire paragraph. It is very annoying and it started after using my Cherry G80 on my computer. The Cherry G80 acts normally, it is only the Ducky with the issue. Any idea what may have happened to the Ducky?

    The repeat rate probably got changed by accident (or during testing for QC etc.). Press Fn + F1 and then Fn + F5, that should reset it.

    You're a genius, thanks a lot!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:12:31
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:12:41
    EDIT: Do you know where I could buy a cheat or a kmac other than classifieds? do they have korean websites for them?
    you can order a KMAC from http://kbdmod.com/ if you find a Korean proxy. only place i've seen Cheats is the classifieds.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:42:08
    The repeat rate probably got changed by accident (or during testing for QC etc.). Press Fn + F1 and then Fn + F5, that should reset it.
    wow, how does one even know these things? i have no idea where you learn it, but it definitely doesn't seem like one of those shortcuts you find out online. either way i'm really impressed!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:14:33
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:12:31
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:12:41
    EDIT: Do you know where I could buy a cheat or a kmac other than classifieds? do they have korean websites for them?
    you can order a KMAC from http://kbdmod.com/ if you find a Korean proxy. only place i've seen Cheats is the classifieds.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 16:42:08
    The repeat rate probably got changed by accident (or during testing for QC etc.). Press Fn + F1 and then Fn + F5, that should reset it.
    wow, how does one even know these things? i have no idea where you learn it, but it definitely doesn't seem like one of those shortcuts you find out online. either way i'm really impressed!
    Usually that would be found in the keyboards manual.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:23:05
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:12:31
    wow, how does one even know these things? i have no idea where you learn it, but it definitely doesn't seem like one of those shortcuts you find out online. either way i'm really impressed!

    I don't. I knew that some keyboards have variable repeat rate (for gaming purposes I guess?) and I guessed it had to do something with that, as apart from this way you can only specifically change the repeat rate in your OS settings. So being lazy, instead of looking for the manual I quickly googled "ducky repeat rate". Bunch of results from GH (some of them probably would have contained the answer, too) and one that was saying "The keys will stutter when i hold them and rapdily repeat ..." (http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/103940-an-issue-with-my-ducky-shine-3/). I clicked that and found the solution.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:26:41
    alright that's cool. only wizards read manuals so i'm glad to know you're a regular person like the rest of us
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:28:21
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:26:41
    alright that's cool. only wizards read manuals so i'm glad to know you're a regular person like the rest of us

    I've read through the Poker 2s manual dozens of times even though I don't have one...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:38:07
    lol, where did you get one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:41:17
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:38:07
    lol, where did you get one?

    Google.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 28 September 2014, 05:48:04
    if i use a controller but not quite pin what can I use two controllers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 28 September 2014, 05:57:10
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 28 September 2014, 05:48:04
    if i use a controller but not quite pin what can I use two controllers?

    Probably. It depends on the game as well I'd imagine. I know in Arma I can use multiple ones simultaniously (TrackIR counts as a controller + joystick). Please keep this keyboard related though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 28 September 2014, 06:17:06
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 28 September 2014, 05:57:10
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 28 September 2014, 05:48:04
    if i use a controller but not quite pin what can I use two controllers?
    Probably. It depends on the game as well I'd imagine. I know in Arma I can use multiple ones simultaniously (TrackIR counts as a controller + joystick). Please keep this keyboard related though.
    what if I make a controller for left and one for right and how it works?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 28 September 2014, 06:23:39
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 28 September 2014, 06:17:06
    what if I make a controller for left and one for right and how it works?

    Oh I think I completly misunderstood your question.

    So you need more pins on your controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 28 September 2014, 06:26:20
    yup ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 28 September 2014, 06:35:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 28 September 2014, 06:26:20
    yup ;D

    There's the Teensy 2.0++ which has more pins. You can also try to optimize your matrix to make it more "square" to use the max amount of keys. So instead of making a 15x5 matrix (75 keys), change it so that it becomes a 10x10 matrix (100 keys).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: okwchin on Sun, 28 September 2014, 07:43:02
    What screw threads are used in the stock poker/pure case.

    I am looking for replacement screws and my M2 is a tad loose, and M3 won't go in. I don't have M2.5, but it might fit. Don't know if its an imperial or metric for starters.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 28 September 2014, 07:46:14
    Quote from: okwchin on Sun, 28 September 2014, 07:43:02
    What screw threads are used in the stock poker/pure case.

    I am looking for replacement screws and my M2 is a tad loose, and M3 won't go in. I don't have M2.5, but it might fit. Don't know if its an imperial or metric for starters.

    Check the OP: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_KK
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: okwchin on Sun, 28 September 2014, 08:34:42
    Omg.. Thanks for the link, but omg I feel stupid for missing that.

    Answers my question, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Sun, 28 September 2014, 10:20:11
    Does the vintage black housing make it feel smooth or is it something else?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 28 September 2014, 11:07:00
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sun, 28 September 2014, 10:20:11
    Does the vintage black housing make it feel smooth or is it something else?

    Unknown. It's most likely a different mold or plastic that was used for the slider. I doubt that it's the housing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Mon, 29 September 2014, 05:44:20
    Not a valid vimeo URL
    Except CPTBadAss who said it could be a faulty switch
    Anyone can confirme this?
    I am going to send it back to the vendor
    Unfortunetaly, its not in my country, i have to pay return shipping fees
    They asked me to fill in a form for RMA
    I already sent through mail this video link
    But i must explain what issue this keyboard does have
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 29 September 2014, 05:52:09
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 28 September 2014, 06:35:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 28 September 2014, 06:26:20
    yup ;D

    There's the Teensy 2.0++ which has more pins. You can also try to optimize your matrix to make it more "square" to use the max amount of keys. So instead of making a 15x5 matrix (75 keys), change it so that it becomes a 10x10 matrix (100 keys).
    teensy hard fine here, :confused: is arduino leonardo r3 enough for 24pins? :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Mon, 29 September 2014, 06:26:39
    Quote from: ajx on Mon, 29 September 2014, 05:44:20
    Not a valid vimeo URL
    Except CPTBadAss who said it could be a faulty switch
    Anyone can confirme this?
    I am going to send it back to the vendor
    Unfortunetaly, its not in my country, i have to pay return shipping fees
    They asked me to fill in a form for RMA
    I already sent through mail this video link
    But i must explain what issue this keyboard does have
    Thanks


    Faulty switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: henz on Mon, 29 September 2014, 06:27:43
    Which cases will my WASD v2 fit in? Ive read here somewher that its almost the same as a filco.

    So my list of options so far:
    Gon, Probably wont work.
    Tex, Filco/oni TKL best bet.

    Anyone has any more options?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 29 September 2014, 08:24:43
    Quote from: henz on Mon, 29 September 2014, 06:27:43
    Anyone has any more options?

    According to this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53686.0), it looks like it will fit a Vortex case too. I think that if you're going to get a non custom case though, go for a Tex case. I was really impressed by them when I saw them at MechanicalKeyboards.com's storefront.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 29 September 2014, 16:01:28
    Vortex case or TEX case. Nothing else as far as I know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hanshan on Mon, 29 September 2014, 19:07:30
    [following question is being nominated for Most-Incredibly-Trivial-and-Who-really-Cares award of the week]

    grey keys white keys - I have a mix of these (not the key caps but the underneath things) so is there some kind of pattern?  Seems strange IBM would just randomize these (maybe someone swapped around some stuff on the board before I bought it?)  Anyway is there any purpose to the different colors?   [question of
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 29 September 2014, 19:19:21
    Quote from: hanshan on Mon, 29 September 2014, 19:07:30
    Anyway is there any purpose to the different colors?

    I know RGB modifiers were used to help people identify CTRL, ALT, and Shift. Perhaps the two tones are used to easily ID the alphas and mods?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 29 September 2014, 19:39:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 29 September 2014, 19:19:21
    I know RGB modifiers were used to help people identify CTRL, ALT, and Shift. Perhaps the two tones are used to easily ID the alphas and mods?

    Keys that produce a character are white while the rest is grey. He's talking about the lower part of two part caps though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hanshan on Mon, 29 September 2014, 19:45:18
    Not so sure about the character vs other keys - unless I'm not operating with full deck....hmmm...perhaps could be phrased better... enough white ones for the alpha keys with two left over = 35. remainder are grey
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 29 September 2014, 19:49:18
    Quote from: hanshan on Mon, 29 September 2014, 19:45:18
    Not so sure about the character vs other keys - unless I'm not operating with full deck....hmmm...perhaps could be phrased better... enough white ones for the alpha keys with two left over = 35. remainder are grey

    You're talking about the keycap stem colours though, not about the keycaps themselves, right? I don't think the keycap stem colors indicate anything. Mine are all grey iirc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 29 September 2014, 20:36:37
    Oh my bad. I've got a whole bunch of stems that are different colors from the tops. White, black, and beige. I think they just use whatever color is on hand and fits their specifications.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 00:50:41
    the spacing well done or too close?
    http://imgur.com/1xPYDqS (http://imgur.com/1xPYDqS)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 30 September 2014, 02:09:24
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 00:50:41
    the spacing well done or too close?
    http://imgur.com/1xPYDqS (http://imgur.com/1xPYDqS)

    It's impossible to say from that image, we need the actual width of the space specified.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 10:48:24
    Quote from: MOZ on Tue, 30 September 2014, 02:09:24
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 00:50:41
    the spacing well done or too close?
    http://imgur.com/1xPYDqS (http://imgur.com/1xPYDqS)
    It's impossible to say from that image, we need the actual width of the space specified.
    I've printed and I try to switch & keycap was too close : - *
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 10:49:25
    how to make download package in github? :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:00:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 10:49:25
    how to make download package in github? :thumb:

    You want to download something from an existing github repository?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dish on Tue, 30 September 2014, 16:28:37
    Is there anywhere I can buy a Noppoo choc mini with mx browns? They're always sold out on amazon, and a quick search here showed nothing relevant in the past month.

    Is there another keyboard with a similar layout? My ducky with browns died a few years back, and my leopold with reds is alright but I want to return to browns.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 September 2014, 16:33:40


    Quote from: dish on Tue, 30 September 2014, 16:28:37
    1) Is there anywhere I can buy a Noppoo choc mini with mx browns?

    2) Is there another keyboard with a similar layout?

    1) AFAIK, no.
    2) There are some customs that have the layout. But I think in terms of available stock boards, the only ones that have it are the Minitouch and TG3 BL82.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:35:59
    Quote from: MOZ on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:00:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 10:49:25
    how to make download package in github? :thumb:

    You want to download something from an existing github repository?
    no, I share something on github I want people to be able to download
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 30 September 2014, 22:06:27
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:35:59
    Quote from: MOZ on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:00:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 10:49:25
    how to make download package in github? :thumb:

    You want to download something from an existing github repository?
    no, I share something on github I want people to be able to download

    I think you can just share the link and people can either fork it or download the zip.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 23:27:27
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Tue, 30 September 2014, 22:06:27
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:35:59
    Quote from: MOZ on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:00:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 30 September 2014, 10:49:25
    how to make download package in github? :thumb:

    You want to download something from an existing github repository?
    no, I share something on github I want people to be able to download
    I think you can just share the link and people can either fork it or download the zip.
    yup, thanks :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: notsonerd on Wed, 01 October 2014, 07:43:12
    Does the KBP V60 come with a mini-USB or micro-USB cord? Also curious about the Poker II.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 01 October 2014, 07:48:39
    Quote from: notsonerd on Wed, 01 October 2014, 07:43:12
    Does the KBP V60 come with a mini-USB or micro-USB cord? Also curious about the Poker II.

    Not sure about the KBP but the Poker comes with Mini-USB which is usually what mechanical keyboards use, with some exceptions (WASD Code uses Micro-USB iirc).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 01 October 2014, 08:13:09
    MiniUSB i think, Matias i think with micro :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 October 2014, 08:47:32
    I read a post that someone had preordered a Ducky Mini Year of the Horse. Is that a regional thing or is Mechanicalkeyboards.com doing pre-orders for that board? I'd like to pre-order one.

    Quote from: PadawanGeek on Thu, 02 October 2014, 08:48:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 October 2014, 08:27:37
    Wait, you can pre-order a Ducky Year of the Horse board?? Is that on MK.com?
    Nope, I'm in Asia, preordered and prepaid the local distributor of Ducky. They'll call me as soon as it arrives.....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 03 October 2014, 18:33:28
    I searched the thread, couldn't find it.

    What size screw does the POKER II case use?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 03 October 2014, 18:44:46
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 03 October 2014, 18:33:28
    I searched the thread, couldn't find it.

    What size screw does the POKER II case use?

    Thanks!
    My brain says M2 but I could be wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:27:07
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 03 October 2014, 18:33:28
    I searched the thread, couldn't find it.

    What size screw does the POKER II case use?

    Thanks!
    Isn't it the same as the poker she's which are called out in the OP?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:36:41
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 03 October 2014, 18:33:28
    I searched the thread, couldn't find it.

    What size screw does the POKER II case use?

    Thanks!

    Was answered last page, it's in the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 03 October 2014, 20:09:54
    Thank You so much guys! Thats what I get for searching POKER II on my cellphone. Found it right away on the desktop.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 03 October 2014, 20:11:31
    Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 03 October 2014, 20:09:54
    Thank You so much guys! Thats what I get for searching POKER II on my cellphone. Found it right away on the desktop.  :thumb:
    Yeah tapatalk  wouldn't cooperate for me either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 03:55:42
    where I could get a small keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Sat, 04 October 2014, 03:57:33
    Has there ever been country flag caps? I have to imagine they'd be white dyesubs if so.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 October 2014, 04:15:07
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 03:55:42
    where I could get a small keycaps?

    (http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/doesnt_make_any_sense_anchorman.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 05:49:15
    Quote from: divito on Sat, 04 October 2014, 03:57:33
    Has there ever been country flag caps? I have to imagine they'd be white dyesubs if so.

    There are some Japan flag doubleshots, apart from that nothing else comes to my mind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 07:32:46
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 04 October 2014, 04:15:07
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 03:55:42
    where I could get a small keycaps?

    Show Image
    (http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/doesnt_make_any_sense_anchorman.gif)

    :)) i mean the dimensions
    --------------------------------------------------

    How added LED for handwiring kibord?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 October 2014, 07:52:47


    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 05:49:15
    Quote from: divito on Sat, 04 October 2014, 03:57:33
    Has there ever been country flag caps? I have to imagine they'd be white dyesubs if so.

    There are some Japan flag doubleshots, apart from that nothing else comes to my mind.

    There were Korean flag modifiers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 08:03:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 October 2014, 07:52:47
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 05:49:15
    There are some Japan flag doubleshots, apart from that nothing else comes to my mind.

    There were Korean flag modifiers.

    Found pics:
    More
    (http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/48-JapFlag_zpsf38b225d.jpg~original)
    (http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/47-KoreanFlagSet_zpse779874c.jpg~original)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 08:45:47
    Is there a somewhat comprehensive list of typewriters with MX compatible keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 08:58:59
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 08:45:47
    Is there a somewhat comprehensive list of typewriters with MX compatible keycaps?

    http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Typewriters
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:03:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 08:58:59
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 08:45:47
    Is there a somewhat comprehensive list of typewriters with MX compatible keycaps?

    http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Typewriters
    :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FRD on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:09:17
    ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:28:45


    Quote from: FRD on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:09:17
    Are there any custom (korean or not) 75% style boards in existance that could be ordered at this time?

    - Mx mini
    - Lz has a 75% but I forgot the name
    - GON might have one too, you might be right about the name

    That's just Korean customs I can think of in general. I believe that ordering from GON is the only currently available option though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:50:43
    WASDkeyboards does not seem to have costar stabs. Are there any other sources or am I going to have to make my own?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:56:34
    Quote from: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:50:43
    WASDkeyboards does not seem to have costar stabs. Are there any other sources or am I going to have to make my own?
    WASD just sell costar stabs ;D
    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html)
    bcs listed cherry mx stabs but the photos are costar :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:59:19
    Quote from: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:50:43
    WASDkeyboards does not seem to have costar stabs. Are there any other sources or am I going to have to make my own?

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 04 October 2014, 10:26:20
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:59:19
    Quote from: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:50:43
    WASDkeyboards does not seem to have costar stabs. Are there any other sources or am I going to have to make my own?

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html

    I would assume that the spacebar one is a 6.25??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 10:28:15
    Any info on these?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/321539799538?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    says hermetic contact, so something like a magnetic reed?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/291032594381?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/301302006097?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 04 October 2014, 10:48:30
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 10:28:15
    Any info on these?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/321539799538?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    says hermetic contact, so something like a magnetic reed?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/291032594381?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/301302006097?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    Looks like reed or HE, probably reed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 10:56:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 04 October 2014, 10:26:20
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:59:19
    Quote from: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:50:43
    WASDkeyboards does not seem to have costar stabs. Are there any other sources or am I going to have to make my own?

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html

    I would assume that the spacebar one is a 6.25??

    Since it's for their keyboards, yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FRD on Sat, 04 October 2014, 11:57:22
    ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 13:43:12
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:56:34
    Quote from: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:50:43
    WASDkeyboards does not seem to have costar stabs. Are there any other sources or am I going to have to make my own?
    WASD just sell costar stabs ;D
    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html)
    bcs listed cherry mx stabs but the photos are costar :-X

    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:59:19
    Quote from: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:50:43
    WASDkeyboards does not seem to have costar stabs. Are there any other sources or am I going to have to make my own?

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html

    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 04 October 2014, 10:26:20
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:59:19
    Quote from: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:50:43
    WASDkeyboards does not seem to have costar stabs. Are there any other sources or am I going to have to make my own?

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html

    I would assume that the spacebar one is a 6.25??

    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 04 October 2014, 10:26:20
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:59:19
    Quote from: wes1099 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:50:43
    WASDkeyboards does not seem to have costar stabs. Are there any other sources or am I going to have to make my own?

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html

    I would assume that the spacebar one is a 6.25??
    Oh. The title made me think they were cherry stabs, but now that I look closely it is costar...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 16:26:16
    Some more stuff:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/TANDY-COLOR-2-64-keyboard-vintage-computing-untested-parts-or-repair-estate-find-/251665637398?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item3a9870e016 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TANDY-COLOR-2-64-keyboard-vintage-computing-untested-parts-or-repair-estate-find-/251665637398?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item3a9870e016)
    I found a post on DT that makes me believe that tandy color's have those weird topre compatible caps

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cardinal-Technologies-Vintage-Personal-Message-Center-Terminal-Keyboard-/251665756402?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a9872b0f2 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cardinal-Technologies-Vintage-Personal-Message-Center-Terminal-Keyboard-/251665756402?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a9872b0f2)
    Looks like the seller ripped half the switch off the plate trying to get a cap off

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-DATANETICS-Keyboard-1980-APPLE-01-0429-0-Estate-Find-/151425773472?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2341adefa0 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-DATANETICS-Keyboard-1980-APPLE-01-0429-0-Estate-Find-/151425773472?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2341adefa0)

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ISSC-Bare-Keyboard-M-N-395-010-ships-worldwide-/190971303932?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c76c6d7fc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:52:23
    What is cable have 7 wires/poles?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 04 October 2014, 23:21:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:52:23
    What is cable have 7 wires/poles?

    While I am not sure which ones use 7 specifically.  But USB 3.0 uses 9.  This link (http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Connectors/_/N-778d5?P=1z0x3z5) is for all 7 wire din connectors.  There are other styles as well.  Many to choose from if you aren't to picky about size and such.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 23:33:22
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 04 October 2014, 23:21:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:52:23
    What is cable have 7 wires/poles?
    While I am not sure which ones use 7 specifically.  But USB 3.0 uses 9.  This link (http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Connectors/_/N-778d5?P=1z0x3z5) is for all 7 wire din connectors.  There are other styles as well.  Many to choose from if you aren't to picky about size and such.
    Thanks :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hanshan on Sun, 05 October 2014, 12:12:10
    Does anyone know if the membrane/ribbon connectors on terminal Model M's is the same as that used in the pc versions?  If so, would be an easy matter to connect up a Model M circuit board to the terminal board assembly (these seem to be a much heavier build) - I would like to give this a try - I have a couple of these and the internals - plastic rivets, etc. are in far better shape on the 1986 vs the 1990 pc version despite obviously much more abuse to the former.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 05 October 2014, 12:21:17
    Quote from: hanshan on Sun, 05 October 2014, 12:12:10
    Does anyone know if the membrane/ribbon connectors on terminal Model M's is the same as that used in the pc versions?  If so, would be an easy matter to connect up a Model M circuit board to the terminal board assembly (these seem to be a much heavier build) - I would like to give this a try - I have a couple of these and the internals - plastic rivets, etc. are in far better shape on the 1986 vs the 1990 pc version despite obviously much more abuse to the former.

    I cannot answer this question directly, but I do know that IBM/Lexmark/Unicomp have changed the controllers several times, drastically, over the years.

    I have at least a couple of sets of dead membranes and controllers, but do not see much point in trying to figure it all out.

    Unicomp sells something that they refer to as something like "membranes" for about $20 which would be great as long as the controller was part of the package, but without it, I don't see the point.

    If anybody knows better about this, I would appreciate it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 05 October 2014, 13:54:49
    do switch covers and stickers serve any purposes? apparently they only function as cosmetics, but i don't understand why they would be necessary, as they sit underneath the keycaps and are not visible at all. maybe for taking cool photos?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 October 2014, 14:00:53


    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 05 October 2014, 13:54:49
    do switch covers and stickers serve any purposes? apparently they only function as cosmetics

    For cosmetics really. Stickers supposedly reduce wobble in MX switches as shown in the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Sun, 05 October 2014, 16:48:46
    Looking to buy my first HHKB, but I'm too poor to get the type-s. Where could I buy something to dampen the sound? I haven't heard good things about the dental bands, so I'm going to stick away from those. Has anyone tried Mcmaster-carr? they have a huge selection of o-rings, i just wouldn't know what to order.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 October 2014, 18:20:32


    Quote from: Elocutive on Sun, 05 October 2014, 16:48:46
    Looking to buy my first HHKB, but I'm too poor to get the type-s. Where could I buy something to dampen the sound?

    I think the dental bands are really removed so if you don't like them, you could just remove them after installing them. Otherwise, try checking out o2dazone's thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40582.msg806150.msg#806150)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 06 October 2014, 00:58:35
    winding tamiya(mini4wd) same with wires for handwiring? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 October 2014, 11:24:00
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 06 October 2014, 00:58:35
    winding tamiya(mini4wd) same with wires for handwiring? :)

    I'm not an electrical expert but I think that's a no. I would think the electrical fields from the magnetics would mess with the keyboard's function. But I'm not 100% sure; hopefully dorkvader or metalliqaz can chime in since I'm pretty much guessing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 06 October 2014, 11:45:07
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 06 October 2014, 00:58:35
    winding tamiya(mini4wd) same with wires for handwiring? :)

    not really sure what you're going at here.
    is it this: http://www.tamiya.com/english/mini4wd/m4item/m4item.htm

    If you want to hand wind your motor, that will work, but it'll take forever. If you want to use wire meant for an electric motor for hand-wiring a keyboard, that'll wortk too, just keep the magnets in the motor core away.

    If you have wire set aside for keyboards that you want to use to wire an electric motor instead, it might or might not work. I think they usually use magnet wire. The insulation on it is really thin so you get a lot of copper denisty for more power.

    If you are asking about something else, I'll need some clarification, sorry!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 06 October 2014, 17:40:14
    I have a non backlit noppoo choc mini.  I want to disable the LED which is under the caps lock.  What's the best way to go on about this?  I tried taping over it but that didn't work too well.  If I break the light cover does the light die with it?  I'm willing to ruin it to get rid of it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 06 October 2014, 18:11:45
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 06 October 2014, 17:40:14
    I have a non backlit noppoo choc mini.  I want to disable the LED which is under the caps lock.  What's the best way to go on about this?  I tried taping over it but that didn't work too well.  If I break the light cover does the light die with it?  I'm willing to ruin it to get rid of it.

    What do you mean by light cover? Cleanest solution would be desoldering it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 07 October 2014, 08:10:39
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 06 October 2014, 11:45:07
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 06 October 2014, 00:58:35
    winding tamiya(mini4wd) same with wires for handwiring? :)

    not really sure what you're going at here.
    is it this: http://www.tamiya.com/english/mini4wd/m4item/m4item.htm

    If you want to hand wind your motor, that will work, but it'll take forever. If you want to use wire meant for an electric motor for hand-wiring a keyboard, that'll wortk too, just keep the magnets in the motor core away.

    If you have wire set aside for keyboards that you want to use to wire an electric motor instead, it might or might not work. I think they usually use magnet wire. The insulation on it is really thin so you get a lot of copper denisty for more power.

    If you are asking about something else, I'll need some clarification, sorry!
    yup, so thin not enough power i think also, but i really curious with this is
    [attach=1]
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/pdcawley/sets/72157632955030051/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/pdcawley/sets/72157632955030051/)
    ___________________________________________
    i've buy this is cable, this is recommended or not?
    (http://img.alibaba.com/img/pb/107/728/758/758728107_620.jpg)

    Thanks :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 October 2014, 08:18:24
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 06 October 2014, 17:40:14
    I have a non backlit noppoo choc mini.  I want to disable the LED which is under the caps lock.  What's the best way to go on about this?  I tried taping over it but that didn't work too well.  If I break the light cover does the light die with it?  I'm willing to ruin it to get rid of it.

    The best way of getting rid of the LED is to desolder it. If you're not willing to do this, I would try coloring the LED with a Sharpie. I wouldn't recommend breaking the LED.

    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 07 October 2014, 08:10:39
    yup, so thin not enough power i think also, but i really curious with this is
    (Attachment Link)
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/pdcawley/sets/72157632955030051/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/pdcawley/sets/72157632955030051/)
    ___________________________________________
    i've buy this is cable, this is recommended or not?
    Show Image
    (http://img.alibaba.com/img/pb/107/728/758/758728107_620.jpg)


    Thanks :thumb:

    The picture you posted is very thin hookup wire. Probably like 30AWG wire. In my opinion, you should buy 24 to 28 AWG hookup wire and not use that cable. You'll spend a lot of time taking the ends off and the wires seem too short.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 07 October 2014, 08:37:57
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 06 October 2014, 17:40:14
    I have a non backlit noppoo choc mini.  I want to disable the LED which is under the caps lock.  What's the best way to go on about this?  I tried taping over it but that didn't work too well.  If I break the light cover does the light die with it?  I'm willing to ruin it to get rid of it.

    I would go with black fingernail polish it model paint.  If using model paint go with a high gloss.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Wed, 08 October 2014, 16:36:32
    Where can I acquire clear MX switch tops? Are they fairly rare/expensive?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 October 2014, 16:40:48
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Wed, 08 October 2014, 16:36:32
    Where can I acquire clear MX switch tops? Are they fairly rare/expensive?

    Besides the various group buys I've only seen there for sale here http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/clear-mx-switch-cover (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/clear-mx-switch-cover) These would be the aboStudio ones which have varied reviews, some like them some don't.

    Unless you mean the originals from the nixdorf boards and yes those are typically rare and expensive depending on who is selling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Thu, 09 October 2014, 12:10:00
    How does one acquire a G81-3116SDU? Are there also other cherry boards with pbt dyesubs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 October 2014, 12:12:18
    Quote from: frosty on Thu, 09 October 2014, 12:10:00
    1) How does one acquire a G81-3116SDU?
    2) Are there also other cherry boards with pbt dyesubs?

    1) You get lucky finding it on ebay, seeing it for sale in classifieds, or stumbling on it through different electronic sellers websites. For example, you can get G81 keyboards from the Staples website. Dunno why you'd want to order from them but it's possible. Then you pay them money and they ship it to you ;).

    2) http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:27:46
    btw there's any idea stabs for plate thick 1,5mm++  atleast 2mm :))

     :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:34:17
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:27:46
    btw there's any idea stabs for plate thick 1,5mm++  atleast 2mm

    AFAIK, you've got two easily found options: Costar and Cherry Plate/PCB. Modify one of those for your usage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:35:04
    Will PS2 plug keyboards work from hibernation or does it require a full restart?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:57:05
    normally they require a full restart.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DasHHKBProM on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:21:59
    Is there an easy way to turn "`" into backspace on hhkb 2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:24:51
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:21:59
    Is there an easy way to turn "`" into backspace on hhkb 2?

    DIP switch 3?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DasHHKBProM on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:29:29
    Quote from: epzy on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:24:51
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:21:59
    Is there an easy way to turn "`" into backspace on hhkb 2?

    DIP switch 3?

    That works well turning "delete" into backspace on hhkb 2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:30:46
    U need software remapping, son.

    AutoHotKey on Windows, or Karabiner on OSX.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:34:58
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:29:29
    Quote from: epzy on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:24:51
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:21:59
    Is there an easy way to turn "`" into backspace on hhkb 2?

    DIP switch 3?

    That works well turning "delete" into backspace on hhkb 2.

    Ah, guess it's different for me. xPPpPpp

    AutoHotKey is very easy to use, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DasHHKBProM on Thu, 09 October 2014, 22:35:10
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:30:46
    U need software remapping, son.

    AutoHotKey on Windows, or Karabiner on OSX.

    `::BS
    BS::\
    \::BS

    RWin::Left
    RAlt::Right

    #z::Run www.google.com
    #x::`                                               //perfection ty
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 09 October 2014, 22:49:39
    Say I have a programmable keyboard such as GH36 for use as a game pad.  If I set my computers default input to Dvorak would that screw up the layout on the keypad?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 09 October 2014, 22:58:05
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 09 October 2014, 22:49:39
    Say I have a programmable keyboard such as GH36 for use as a game pad.  If I set my computers default input to Dvorak would that screw up the layout on the keypad?
    yes.

    You can avoid this by having a separate layer on the GH36 for that occasion.

    Also, some games will ignore the dvorak language of windows for better or worse. This is why I do hardware dvorak on all my boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 09 October 2014, 23:00:05
    Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 09 October 2014, 22:58:05
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 09 October 2014, 22:49:39
    Say I have a programmable keyboard such as GH36 for use as a game pad.  If I set my computers default input to Dvorak would that screw up the layout on the keypad?
    yes.

    You can avoid this by having a separate layer on the GH36 for that occasion.

    Also, some games will ignore the dvorak language of windows for better or worse. This is why I do hardware dvorak on all my boards.

    Gotcha.  So to have essentially a QWERTY layout on the game pad and dvorak on the keyboard I would need programmable on both?  Or would there be a workaround?  Say I program the GH36 to be dvorak and then I switch the PC input language from QWERTY to Dvorak would the GH36 be qwerty then?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 09 October 2014, 23:40:45
    What is the size of the stock black screws on a Realforce PCB?

    Epzy mentioned;

    diameter 2.20mm
    length thread 7.84mm
    length total 9.53mm
    head diameter 3.83mm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 09 October 2014, 23:53:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:34:17
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:27:46
    btw there's any idea stabs for plate thick 1,5mm++  atleast 2mm

    AFAIK, you've got two easily found options: Costar and Cherry Plate/PCB. Modify one of those for your usage.
    yup :)) how dimens holes cherry pcb stbas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Fri, 10 October 2014, 04:10:23
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 October 2014, 23:53:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:34:17
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 09 October 2014, 20:27:46
    btw there's any idea stabs for plate thick 1,5mm++  atleast 2mm

    AFAIK, you've got two easily found options: Costar and Cherry Plate/PCB. Modify one of those for your usage.
    yup :)) how dimens holes cherry pcb stbas?

    You can use the standard stab holes that everyone uses for designing plates, it works with PCB stabs as well. More here: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 11 October 2014, 04:40:09
    I'm thinking of selling some of the keyboards that I have never really used in the classifieds, but I'm not familiar with shipping rates etc.

    Is the flat rate "large Board Game Box" the best option for shipping full size boards (Filco, Ducky)?   It's like $20.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 11 October 2014, 04:44:44
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 11 October 2014, 04:40:09
    I'm thinking of selling some of the keyboards that I have never really used in the classifieds, but I'm not familiar with shipping rates etc.

    Is the flat rate "large Board Game Box" the best option for shipping full size boards (Filco, Ducky)?   It's like $20.

    Should be $16 if you print the label online. If you've already got a keyboard sized box lying around and the keyboard you're shipping isn't very heavy then you might save a couple bucks by using your own box, but otherwise it's just going to end up costing more after you buy the box.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 11 October 2014, 04:54:39
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Sat, 11 October 2014, 04:44:44
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 11 October 2014, 04:40:09
    I'm thinking of selling some of the keyboards that I have never really used in the classifieds, but I'm not familiar with shipping rates etc.

    Is the flat rate "large Board Game Box" the best option for shipping full size boards (Filco, Ducky)?   It's like $20.

    Should be $16 if you print the label online. If you've already got a keyboard sized box lying around and the keyboard you're shipping isn't very heavy then you might save a couple bucks by using your own box, but otherwise it's just going to end up costing more after you buy the box.

    Okay  thanks.

    It did say it  was $16.something  but if you add insurance it's another  $2.something.   
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 11 October 2014, 05:23:30
    why topre stabs better even no clamps at all (exc:spacebar) the stabs on under with  yeah
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 11 October 2014, 05:39:59
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 11 October 2014, 05:23:30
    why topre stabs better even no clamps at all (exc:spacebar) the stabs on under with  yeah

    Topre has a circular stems and the keycap stems go inside of the switch slider. Because of this, the keycap sits a bit sturdier on the slider which makes stabilization not as necessary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 11 October 2014, 05:57:45
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 11 October 2014, 05:39:59
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 11 October 2014, 05:23:30
    why topre stabs better even no clamps at all (exc:spacebar) the stabs on under with  yeah
    Topre has a circular stems and the keycap stems go inside of the switch slider. Because of this, the keycap sits a bit sturdier on the slider which makes stabilization not as necessary.
    yup right, i ever think so though not sure, i tried on mx with thick thick tape yeah still less stabile :))
    is alps same as topre?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 11 October 2014, 06:03:46
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 11 October 2014, 05:57:45
    yup right, i ever think so though not sure, i tried on mx with thick thick tape yeah still less stabile :))
    is alps same as topre?

    No: unfortunately Alps stems are not as stabile as Topre stems (the reason is the way the stem is held in position within the switch). Even 1x1 Alps keys tend to wobble a bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 20:59:33
    Hey guys. I lifted a few solder pads when desoldering my kmac. Should I be worried or does it not affect anything?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:32:59
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 20:59:33
    Hey guys. I lifted a few solder pads when desoldering my kmac. Should I be worried or does it not affect anything?

    You may have to manually bridge some traces depending on the severity of the pad lifting.  If it's a double sided PCB you're probably fine though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:43:31
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:32:59
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 20:59:33
    Hey guys. I lifted a few solder pads when desoldering my kmac. Should I be worried or does it not affect anything?

    You may have to manually bridge some traces depending on the severity of the pad lifting.  If it's a double sided PCB you're probably fine though.
    Okay! Thanks for the response. What do you mean by double sided PCB though?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:48:04
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:43:31
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:32:59
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 20:59:33
    Hey guys. I lifted a few solder pads when desoldering my kmac. Should I be worried or does it not affect anything?

    You may have to manually bridge some traces depending on the severity of the pad lifting.  If it's a double sided PCB you're probably fine though.
    Okay! Thanks for the response. What do you mean by double sided PCB though?

    Sorry, I meant dual layer.  I seem to remember some of the dual layer boards having identical traces on both sides, though I could be messing things up and they could have different traces on each layer. 

    It's not really important though.  If you did mess up some traces, you'll probably have to bridge some with some wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:53:39
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:48:04
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:43:31
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:32:59
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 20:59:33
    Hey guys. I lifted a few solder pads when desoldering my kmac. Should I be worried or does it not affect anything?

    You may have to manually bridge some traces depending on the severity of the pad lifting.  If it's a double sided PCB you're probably fine though.
    Okay! Thanks for the response. What do you mean by double sided PCB though?


    Sorry, I meant dual layer.  I seem to remember some of the dual layer boards having identical traces on both sides, though I could be messing things up and they could have different traces on each layer. 

    It's not really important though.  If you did mess up some traces, you'll probably have to bridge some with some wire.
      :eek: I have no idea how to do this!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:57:37
    look at the traces between where you lifted the pad.  Follow the trace to the next switch.  Get some wire, strip the ends, then lay it flat.  Solder it to the switch leg for the trace route.  Voila, you've bridged a trace.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 22:01:54
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:57:37
    look at the traces between where you lifted the pad.  Follow the trace to the next switch.  Get some wire, strip the ends, then lay it flat.  Solder it to the switch leg for the trace route.  Voila, you've bridged a trace.
    Thanks! Is there any way I can test to see if the trace is even broken before I turn to this? Also, what type of wire? Sorry, I am very inept when it comes to these things!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 11 October 2014, 22:14:34
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 11 October 2014, 22:01:54
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 11 October 2014, 21:57:37
    look at the traces between where you lifted the pad.  Follow the trace to the next switch.  Get some wire, strip the ends, then lay it flat.  Solder it to the switch leg for the trace route.  Voila, you've bridged a trace.
    Thanks! Is there any way I can test to see if the trace is even broken before I turn to this? Also, what type of wire? Sorry, I am very inept when it comes to these things!

    That's okay, we all started somewhere, and I'm glad to help.

    While any wire will work, 22-28awg is about the right size. Smaller is harder to work with (I have used 30AWG wire wrap wire though) and larger is also harder to work with (it becomes so large that it gets in the way) I just got some 22AWG solid core hookup wire and it's just about perfect. In the past I have cut up cables for the wire inside but it can be a pain.

    You can tell if the trace is broken using a DMM in continuity mode. You can also make something with a battery and an LED that will also work.

    Hope this helps!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 11 October 2014, 22:58:27
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 11 October 2014, 22:14:34
    You can tell if the trace is broken using a DMM in continuity mode.

    I'll add: beware of relying on any "beeping" continuity check modes, they can mislead. Make sure you find a point that actually has 0 ohms of resistance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 12 October 2014, 01:29:16
    9995 posts in this thread! Who will be 10000??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 01:35:09
    10000 is over 9000!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:00:49
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 12 October 2014, 01:29:16
    9995 posts in this thread! Who will be 10000??

    Someone will be able to provide an answer very soon ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:05:31

    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:00:49
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 12 October 2014, 01:29:16
    9995 posts in this thread! Who will be 10000??

    Someone will be able to provide an answer very soon ;)

    I wait with baited breath.  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:05:54
    Rowdy you know you want to be the owner of reply #10000
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:06:08
    Nvm I got it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:06:18
    PARTYY TIIIIME!!!!!!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:06:55
    wtf Lastpilot!!??!?!?





    Jerk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:07:33
    It's okay man you one-upped me and got 10001
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sent on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:11:51
    I feel like you two have a strong developing bromance.  The adventures of Hoffman and Lastpilot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:13:38
    He asked me to help him by posting #9999. I did him this favor, and then I collected my fee. BWAHAHAHAHA
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:15:02

    Quote from: Sent on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:11:51
    I feel like you two have a strong developing bromance.  The adventures of Hoffman and Lastpilot.

    You want in?  ;)


    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:13:38
    He asked me to help him by posting #9999. I did him this favor, and then I collected my fee. BWAHAHAHAHA

    -__-
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:16:48
    Sent you should be our getaway driver. Hoffman and I will go steal vespers 23ub.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sent on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:19:13
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:15:02
    You want in?  ;)

    Maybe...my mom told me not to trust strangers.

    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:16:48
    Sent you should be our getaway driver. Hoffman and I will go steal vespers 23ub.

    I did spend a lot of time at the track.  I can be an Asian version of the Transporter. :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:21:06

    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:16:48
    Sent you should be our getaway driver. Hoffman and I will go steal vespers 23ub.

    Whoa, let's get this straight. I get the 23ub, you get a smack to the head with the 4704 107-key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:21:34
    Stop posting with just your index finger
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:37:16
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:05:54
    Rowdy you know you want to be the owner of reply #10000

    Heh I thought about it, but them I haven't contributed much to this thread anyway.  Besides, I've been away from this keyboard settupping a newer workstation for my other half.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Sun, 12 October 2014, 08:35:26
    Sister wants full-size keyboard with white backlighting (to use Bang Good's LED covers) and green switches. MK shows Vortex or Code, but looking for other potential options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hanshan on Sun, 12 October 2014, 10:28:40
    Anyone know where I could get one or two Model M circuit boards & led sets (for converting terminal kb to pc use?)   Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 12 October 2014, 11:03:22
    ebay
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sun, 12 October 2014, 11:18:23
    Is 70% Isopropyl Alcohol good enough to clean the flux? Or do I need alcohol of higher concentration?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 12 October 2014, 12:08:19
    Quote from: frosty on Sun, 12 October 2014, 11:18:23
    Is 70% Isopropyl Alcohol good enough to clean the flux? Or do I need alcohol of higher concentration?

    70% Isopropyl Alcohol is good enough for some type of rosin flux but you should have 90% or 99%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Sun, 12 October 2014, 14:33:16
    I'd recommend 99%, or at least 90%, as most rosin flux can be pretty darn hard to remove, many people have issue with even 99% ISO.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: uns211 on Sun, 12 October 2014, 16:15:23
    I've tried 91% and 99.9% IPA and I recommend the latter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 October 2014, 16:17:03
    Quote from: uns211 on Sun, 12 October 2014, 16:15:23
    I've tried 91% and 99.9% IPA and I recommend the latter.

    I wouldn't recommend using beer on your keyboard at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 12 October 2014, 17:43:40
    who is "microsoft windows" and how on earth did he amass over 6000 posts of trolling?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 October 2014, 17:46:17
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 12 October 2014, 17:43:40
    who is "microsoft windows" and how on earth did he amass over 6000 posts of trolling?

    He's a user on GH who posts a lot. Not really keyboard related.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 12 October 2014, 17:56:23
    hmm, ok. still strange that he'd choose a niche keyboard forum to extol the virtues of windows 98 and IE
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 October 2014, 19:38:53
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 12 October 2014, 17:56:23
    strange that he'd choose

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_relief
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 12 October 2014, 21:51:25
    Do all Model F keyboards have die cast metal cases? From what I understand the 4704 models do, but I'm wondering specifically if models like the 122-keys or unsavers do. Apparently F-122's have "black metal undersides (http://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_Model_F#IBM_122-key_Model_F_Keyboards)", but what about the top?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sun, 12 October 2014, 21:53:39
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Sun, 12 October 2014, 21:51:25
    Do all Model F keyboards have die cast metal cases? From what I understand the 4704 models do, but I'm wondering specifically if models like the 122-keys or unsavers do. Apparently F-122's have "black metal undersides (http://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_Model_F#IBM_122-key_Model_F_Keyboards)", but what about the top?
    It's just the 4704s with metal tops, unless there are some less known models with them too. AT, F122, XT all have plastic tops.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 12 October 2014, 22:36:15
    I have seen a couple F XT listed on ebay recently with the sellers claiming they are all metal. I even messaged one and the guy said twice it was all metal but I didn't buy it because there was no way it was.

    There ARE two all metal F XT models that I know of but they are clearly marked and identifiable as all metal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:11:44
    Are the sliders in the HHKB Type-S the same as the purple silent Realforce sliders, aside from the plastic color? Or do they employ a different silencing technique?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:30:09
    is there any cover/roof keyboard for KBT Pure?
    thanks

    (http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q761/okooko_PB/KBT%20Pure/2012-12-17174740_zps1788e1c7.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:36:21
    Quote from: ajx on Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:30:09
    is there any cover/roof keyboard for KBT Pure?
    thanks

    Show Image
    (http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q761/okooko_PB/KBT%20Pure/2012-12-17174740_zps1788e1c7.jpg)

    http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,roofs&pid=rf_hhek
    should work, although you might want to check the dimensions
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:09:28
    Pure 290 x 102 x 38 mm
    HHKB  294 x 110 x 39.9mm
    Roof 290 x 103 x 13mm

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Tue, 14 October 2014, 05:39:02
    Nerverminds, it would cost me about 90$ to import it lmao
    Too expensive for a simple roof keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: henz on Wed, 15 October 2014, 01:43:09
    Does gon cases have switch top removal?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 15 October 2014, 05:16:49
    Quote from: henz on Wed, 15 October 2014, 01:43:09
    Does gon cases have switch top removal?

    Nope, he doesn't like that feature as with tight caps you can pull the switch top out by just pulling the keycap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: henz on Wed, 15 October 2014, 05:51:56
    Tanx!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:53:13
    I'm looking for a non backlit 104/5 keyboard with cherry stabilizers, is ducky pro and NerD my only option?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 07:16:29
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:53:13
    I'm looking for a non backlit 104/5 keyboard with cherry stabilizers, is ducky pro and NerD my only option?
    Well the whole Ducky line uses Cherry stabilizers. So Zero, Shine 2, Shine 3, the Year of the X (except year of the horse) boards are all options too. Leopold boards use Cherry. I think Keycool has them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 15 October 2014, 08:27:11
    I'm looking for
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 07:16:29
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 15 October 2014, 06:53:13
    I'm looking for a non backlit 104/5 keyboard with cherry stabilizers, is ducky pro and NerD my only option?
    Well the whole Ducky line uses Cherry stabilizers. So Zero, Shine 2, Shine 3, the Year of the X (except year of the horse) boards are all options too. Leopold boards use Cherry. I think Keycool has them.


    I'm looking for a full size, non-backlit board , and the Ducky Premier DK9008P seems the best choice for me because of the availability and iso option.  It is the only ducky which isn't loaded with LEDs, only the wasd keys has them but surely they must be disablable.  Are the caps on these cherry or oem profile? http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/DK9008P-BFIPHZHB2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 08:28:09
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 15 October 2014, 08:27:11
    Are the caps on these cherry or oem profile? http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/DK9008P-BFIPHZHB2

    OEM
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 15 October 2014, 08:29:17
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 15 October 2014, 08:27:11
    I'm looking for a full size, non-backlit board , and the Ducky Premier DK9008P seems the best choice for me because of the availability and iso option.  It is the only ducky which isn't loaded with LEDs, only the wasd keys has them but surely they must be disablable.  Are the caps on these cherry or oem profile? http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/DK9008P-BFIPHZHB2

    You can disable LEDs on all backlit boards that I know of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:29:01
    When will the sprit spring orders close? Am I already way too late?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:32:04
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:29:01
    When will the sprit spring orders close? Am I already way too late?

    You should probably ask that in the relevant thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:35:26
    I have and no replies. Might as well ask it again :S
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:41:50
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:32:04
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:29:01
    When will the sprit spring orders close? Am I already way too late?

    You should probably ask that in the relevant thread.

    Agreed. I can't speak for sprit (I have no idea as well.) and I think only sprit and his proxies can only speak for his dates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:00:15
    Click clack's user is pioner cc's? is same man with bro caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:01:43
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:03:22
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:00:15
    Click clack's user is pioner cc's? is same man with bro caps?

    ClickClack (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2140) aka ClackFactory (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4056) makes the Click Clack keycaps. User Bro Caps (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22496) who makes Bro Caps keycaps is different from ClickClack. Bro Caps the user doesn't make Click Clack keycaps and ClickClack the user doesn't make Bro Caps the keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:15:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:03:22
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:00:15
    Click clack's user is pioner cc's? is same man with bro caps?

    ClickClack (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2140) aka ClackFactory (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4056) makes the Click Clack keycaps. User Bro Caps (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22496) who makes Bro Caps keycaps is different from ClickClack. Bro Caps the user doesn't make Click Clack keycaps and ClickClack the user doesn't make Bro Caps the keycaps.
    thanks :)) is CC's always skull?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:17:23
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:15:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:03:22
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:00:15
    Click clack's user is pioner cc's? is same man with bro caps?

    ClickClack (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2140) aka ClackFactory (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4056) makes the Click Clack keycaps. User Bro Caps (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22496) who makes Bro Caps keycaps is different from ClickClack. Bro Caps the user doesn't make Click Clack keycaps and ClickClack the user doesn't make Bro Caps the keycaps.
    thanks :)) is CC's always skull?

    No, he's made plain colored and multi colored keys (double shot or triple shot, molded out of multiple colors of plastic).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:21:58
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:17:23
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:15:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:03:22
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:00:15
    Click clack's user is pioner cc's? is same man with bro caps?

    ClickClack (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2140) aka ClackFactory (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4056) makes the Click Clack keycaps. User Bro Caps (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22496) who makes Bro Caps keycaps is different from ClickClack. Bro Caps the user doesn't make Click Clack keycaps and ClickClack the user doesn't make Bro Caps the keycaps.
    thanks :)) is CC's always skull?

    No, he's made plain colored and multi colored keys (double shot or triple shot, molded out of multiple colors of plastic).

    Also, a few ogres and eagles and such. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:23:16
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:15:36
    thanks :)) is CC's always skull?

    There's blank keys, leaf keys aka 4:20, Gumrots, WASD clusters,... More info here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:29:34
     :thumb: All :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:53:13
    Are all Cherry G80/G81-3000 cases interchangeable?

    Will older G80 internals fit in newer G81 housings, and vice versa?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 15 October 2014, 18:14:03
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:53:13
    Are all Cherry G80/G81-3000 cases interchangeable?

    Will older G80 internals fit in newer G81 housings, and vice versa?

    I believe so. Zenuty's NCR G80 uses the housing of a G81-3077 so I think it could probably apply to any G81 case.

    (http://abload.de/img/2041081346_60ef4eb2_dbrsj0.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Split_ on Wed, 15 October 2014, 18:38:44
    I'm new here on geekhack so hello! On to my question; is there much in the way of differences between keyboards of the same size/layout, aside from reprogamming options/function layers which aren't of much concern to me, if you plan to install a new case after purchase? I'll probably have to make a separate thread, but I'm looking to purchase a 60% board with mx clears, notably between the new massdrop ducky mini or a poker 2 from a previous massdrop.

    To my knowledge the big components for a keyboard are the case (as said would be third-party), pcb (would for all intents and purposes only make a difference in programming options/function layers), switches (as I have no soldering skills/equipment and would like mx clears), and keycaps which would be third-party as well, so no difference there.

    And as a secondary question, is there a brief explanation of the difference between pcb and plate mounted boards? Is one option better than the other, and would either the mini or poker 2 differ in that respect?

    Thanks so much to anyone who takes the time to reply. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 18:51:40
    Quote from: Split_ on Wed, 15 October 2014, 18:38:44
    1) Is there much in the way of differences between keyboards of the same size/layout, aside from reprogamming options/function layers which aren't of much concern to me, if you plan to install a new case after purchase?
    2) I'll probably have to make a separate thread, but I'm looking to purchase a 60% board with mx clears, notably between the new massdrop ducky mini or a poker 2 from a previous massdrop.
    3) To my knowledge the big components for a keyboard are the case (as said would be third-party), pcb (would for all intents and purposes only make a difference in programming options/function layers), switches (as I have no soldering skills/equipment and would like mx clears), and keycaps which would be third-party as well, so no difference there.
    4) Is there a brief explanation of the difference between pcb and plate mounted boards?
    5) Is one option better than the other, and would either the mini or poker 2 differ in that respect?

    1) Yes, how the cases and PCB mount will change. There can differences in dimensions. Just because it's relatively the same layout doesn't exactly mean it will fit into any case.
    2) I think you'd be happy with either choice. I'm actually going to get a Ducky Year of the Horse probably which is a Ducky Mini in an aluminum case.
    3) I think your list is missing the controller but you've got the gist of it.
    4) PCB mounted means the switches are mounted into the PCB and it looks something like this (http://wiki.geekhack.org/images/8/8e/Keyboard-poker-kit-mounted.jpg). Note how it sits right on top of the circuit board and you can see the circuit. Plate mounted means the switches sit on a plate and then the PCB gets sandwiched between the plate and case. Notice how the switches sit on a black surface (http://i.imgur.com/ulf2io4.jpg) which is the plate and there's a but of writing in the little window (that's the PCB).
    5) Ducky Mini and Poker 2 are both plate mounted. PCB mounted switches can be described as feeling "softer" when you type on them in my opinion. I prefer the solidity of plate mounted switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Split_ on Wed, 15 October 2014, 19:12:03
    Wonderful, thank you so much! The faq was especially helpful in figuring out some things before posting.

    So to confirm, since I feel as if I'm missing something, there's not too much in the way of differences between boards of identical size/layout? There might be some dimensional differences which would be relevant for purchasing a case and differences in software/programming/function layers, but aside from some minor features being included or not, meaning things such as LEDs or solder free switch replacement etc., generally speaking there isn't too much of a difference between these boards? I ask since from the variety of community and market produced keyboards for, say, 60%, I feel as if there's something significant I might be missing.

    Lastly, my main reason for desiring a third party case is I'm very much a fan of the "floating key" design and would love such for my keyboard. This case ( http://pexon-pcs.myshopify.com/products/60-aluminium-case ) comes to mind, although it won't be in stock for a little bit and I'm afraid I wasn't around for when they were available a few months ago. Off the top of your head, are there any other cases, not being too expensive, which also are low cut and have the floating key element to them? If nothing comes to mind then please don't bother yourself searching, you've already been a great help.

    No more questions from me I swear  ;D, thank you very much for your time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 19:20:41
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:53:13
    Are all Cherry G80/G81-3000 cases interchangeable?

    Will older G80 internals fit in newer G81 housings, and vice versa?
    Yep. As said above, lots of people who get NCR's or any other nice G81 case just put G80 internals into them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:35:31
    Quote from: Split_ on Wed, 15 October 2014, 19:12:03
    1) Since I feel as if I'm missing something, there's not too much in the way of differences between boards of identical size/layout?
    2) Off the top of your head, are there any other cases, not being too expensive, which also are low cut and have the floating key element to them?

    1) - Different case designs/looks
    - different layout,
    - are the boards backlit,
    - do the boards have reprogrammability or dipswitches,
    - how are the boards angled,
    - what materials are used in the construction,
    - does the board have a plate or not

    The above list are some differences that boards can have

    2) Poker X, Poker 2,  a modified jdcarpe plate case, and GON customs are all quick examples of this case design you've suggested.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:38:26
    Do Filcos come with stock clears, or would i have to mod to have clears on a filco ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:39:17
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:38:26
    Do Filcos come with stock clears, or would i have to mod to have clears on a filco ?

    You have to mod the Filco yourself to have MX Clears. Alternatively, there are people who will do modding. In CONUS, there is tjcaustin, dorkvader, and LastPilot who offer assembly services.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:41:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:39:17
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:38:26
    Do Filcos come with stock clears, or would i have to mod to have clears on a filco ?

    You have to mod the Filco yourself to have MX Clears. Alternatively, there are people who will do modding. In CONUS, there is tjcaustin, dorkvader, and LastPilot who offer assembly services.

    Thanks you.  Is it fairly straight forward to mod, ie being confident soldering and desoldering, or is their more to it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:42:31
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:41:43
    Thanks you.  Is it fairly straight forward to mod, ie being confident soldering and desoldering, or is their more to it?

    Gotta get that case open too but that's about it :). Oh and you may want to take care and remove the cable. It's held in with a little plug. I've posted some poor pictures documenting how you can remove the cable (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42889.20).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:43:20
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:41:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:39:17
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:38:26
    Do Filcos come with stock clears, or would i have to mod to have clears on a filco ?

    You have to mod the Filco yourself to have MX Clears. Alternatively, there are people who will do modding. In CONUS, there is tjcaustin, dorkvader, and LastPilot who offer assembly services.

    Thanks you.  Is it fairly straight forward to mod, ie being confident soldering and desoldering, or is their more to it?

    Thats it.  desolder old switches, solder in new switches, put back in case.  Fair warning though, the Filco uses a double sided PCB that is slightly more difficult to desolder than a single sided PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:45:04
    Thanks again kind gentlemen, looks like I have my first project. Can get it painted fire engine red while i'm at it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:45:48
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:45:04
    Can get it painted fire engine red while i'm at it.

    You could also get a controller from bpiphany so you can get full reprogrammability on your Filco. Just an idea :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:49:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:45:48
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:45:04
    Can get it painted fire engine red while i'm at it.

    You could also get a controller from bpiphany so you can get full reprogrammability on your Filco. Just an idea :).

    Wouldn't it also be possible to accomplish with a teensy, I have a few laying around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:50:54
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:49:39
    Wouldn't it also be possible to accomplish with a teensy, I have a few laying around.

    I'm fairly sure you can but I'm not as familiar with the process of doing so. Perhaps jdcarpe or dorkvader will see this and enlighten us. Or maybe there's some info in the Soarer converter thread :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 15 October 2014, 23:06:34
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 15 October 2014, 18:14:03
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 15 October 2014, 17:53:13
    Are all Cherry G80/G81-3000 cases interchangeable?

    Will older G80 internals fit in newer G81 housings, and vice versa?

    I believe so. Zenuty's NCR G80 uses the housing of a G81-3077 so I think it could probably apply to any G81 case.

    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/2041081346_60ef4eb2_dbrsj0.jpg)


    Okay,  thanks   :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 15 October 2014, 23:32:02
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:49:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:45:48
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 15 October 2014, 20:45:04
    Can get it painted fire engine red while i'm at it.

    You could also get a controller from bpiphany so you can get full reprogrammability on your Filco. Just an idea :).

    Wouldn't it also be possible to accomplish with a teensy, I have a few laying around.

    That controller from bpiphany is essentially a teensy but on a different PCB such that it is a direct replacement.  Simply remove factory controller, install aftermarket controller, flash firmware to it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 16 October 2014, 07:03:16
    Plywood(triplex) v acrylic for plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 16 October 2014, 07:18:44
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 16 October 2014, 07:03:16
    Plywood(triplex) v acrylic for plate?

    Switches will have to be glued in without getting creative with layers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 08:56:17
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:11:44
    Are the sliders in the HHKB Type-S the same as the purple silent Realforce sliders, aside from the plastic color? Or do they employ a different silencing technique?

    Anyone? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:12:59
    Is this HHKB keyset (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=pdkb400ktbn) 100% compatible with the Realforce 87u? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:14:21
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:15:39
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Wed, 15 October 2014, 18:14:03
    I believe so. Zenuty's NCR G80 uses the housing of a G81-3077 so I think it could probably apply to any G81 case.

    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/2041081346_60ef4eb2_dbrsj0.jpg)

    Worth noting that's with a Leeku PCB which is compatible with all G81/G80 cases. I think there's issues with using certain G80 PCBs with certain G81 cases, but I don't know which ones. Ivan would know better I think. For the most part you'll be OK though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:23:20
    Is widebasket the only place where you can currently get replacement keys for the 87u?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:31:32
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:49:54
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:31:32
    Quote from: hordak on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:23:20
    Is widebasket the only place where you can currently get replacement keys for the 87u?

    You can get them directly from Leopold's website.

    Thanks, but how do you translate it? Google translate is not working so good for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 16 October 2014, 13:06:02
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 13:10:15
    I'm pretty sure you need a Korean credit card to order from them. Even if you have one, I don't think they ship outside of Korea. I know they don't take American CCs or ship to the USA, probably not Austria either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 October 2014, 13:12:07
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 08:56:17
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:11:44
    Are the sliders in the HHKB Type-S the same as the purple silent Realforce sliders, aside from the plastic color? Or do they employ a different silencing technique?

    Anyone? :)

    Perhaps you can PM 002 here on or Deskthority. I don't know a lot about Topre so I haven't replied.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 16 October 2014, 13:13:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 October 2014, 13:12:07
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 08:56:17
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:11:44
    Are the sliders in the HHKB Type-S the same as the purple silent Realforce sliders, aside from the plastic color? Or do they employ a different silencing technique?

    Anyone? :)

    Perhaps you can PM 002 here on or Deskthority. I don't know a lot about Topre so I haven't replied.

    I also don't know a lot about topre, but my gut instinct is that they are the same.  Maybe posting in the Post Your Topre Board thread would yield a wider array of responses.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Fri, 17 October 2014, 03:49:58
    Hello

    Does anyone know the dimensions of the LED panel on the model M. I am looking for height and length. As well as spacing of the LEDS

    measurements I am looking for...

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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:29:30
    Where would I be able to get 62g springs? I missed out on the sprit groupbuy :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:32:55
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:29:30
    Where would I be able to get 62g springs? I missed out on the sprit groupbuy :(
    If you're willing to take the risk with Originative: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:35:38
    Damn it, I knew it was the only possible location. Might as well go with Zeal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:35:53
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:32:55
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:29:30
    Where would I be able to get 62g springs? I missed out on the sprit groupbuy :(
    If you're willing to take the risk with Originative: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs

    You could also wait and see if one of the proxies like BlueBar or Hoffman has extras.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:41:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:35:53
    You could also wait and see if one of the proxies like BlueBar or Hoffman has extras.

    NO! ALL MINE!
    I'll probably have some. You'll have to wait until everybody has their order from me though so I don't give away stuff that belongs to somebody else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:55:59
    Quote from: fanpeople on Fri, 17 October 2014, 03:49:58
    Hello

    Does anyone know the dimensions of the LED panel on the model M. I am looking for height and length. As well as spacing of the LEDS

    measurements I am looking for...

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    Just got out the calipers and eyeballed it.
    a: ~23.3mm
    b: ~77.65mm
    c: ~4.15mm
    D: ~20.1mm
    E: ~20.1mm
    F: ~19.1mm
    G: ~17.0mm

    Width of the LED cutout is ~5.15mm
    height of the LED cutout is ~2.5mm


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:59:00
    Aside from feelings of nostalgia when it comes to classic keyboards, why do we like keyboards so much?

    What's a concrete explaination to explain our fascination?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:00:11
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:59:00
    Aside from feelings of nostalgia when it comes to classic keyboards, why do we like keyboards so much?

    What's a concrete explaination to explain our fascination?

    Keyboard is love, keyboard is life.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:00:22
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:59:00
    Aside from feelings of nostalgia when it comes to classic keyboards, why do we like keyboards so much?

    What's a concrete explaination to explain our fascination?

    Might as well make that question its own thread. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:02:08
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:00:22
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:59:00
    Aside from feelings of nostalgia when it comes to classic keyboards, why do we like keyboards so much?

    What's a concrete explaination to explain our fascination?

    Might as well make that question its own thread. :D
    I guess it's not such a simple question after all :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:03:43
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:02:08
    I guess it's not such a simple question after all :P

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:00:11
    Keyboard is love, keyboard is life.

    I just want to enjoy my feeling :D.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:05:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:03:43
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:02:08
    I guess it's not such a simple question after all :P

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:00:11
    Keyboard is love, keyboard is life.

    I just want to enjoy my feeling :D.
    Amen. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:05:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:03:43
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:02:08
    I guess it's not such a simple question after all :P

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:00:11
    Keyboard is love, keyboard is life.

    I just want to enjoy my feeling :D.



    I'm in it for making hacking and engineering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:11:38
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:55:59
    Quote from: fanpeople on Fri, 17 October 2014, 03:49:58
    Hello

    Does anyone know the dimensions of the LED panel on the model M. I am looking for height and length. As well as spacing of the LEDS

    measurements I am looking for...

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    Just got out the calipers and eyeballed it.
    a: ~23.3mm
    b: ~77.65mm
    c: ~4.15mm
    D: ~20.1mm
    E: ~20.1mm
    F: ~19.1mm
    G: ~17.0mm

    Width of the LED cutout is ~5.15mm
    height of the LED cutout is ~2.5mm


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    Thank you so so so so much. Much appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:17:11
    Quote from: fanpeople on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:11:38
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:55:59
    Quote from: fanpeople on Fri, 17 October 2014, 03:49:58
    Hello

    Does anyone know the dimensions of the LED panel on the model M. I am looking for height and length. As well as spacing of the LEDS

    measurements I am looking for...

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    Just got out the calipers and eyeballed it.
    a: ~23.3mm
    b: ~77.65mm
    c: ~4.15mm
    D: ~20.1mm
    E: ~20.1mm
    F: ~19.1mm
    G: ~17.0mm

    Width of the LED cutout is ~5.15mm
    height of the LED cutout is ~2.5mm


    I always do code or fonts for fixed width stuff like so:
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    Thank you so so so so much. Much appreciated.

    NP, but my measurements are all on the "too big" side by just a little. If you add up the widths of things, you get 4.15+20.1+20.1+19.1+3*5.15 = 78.9mm, 1.25mm longer than it should be, representing precision of plus or minus 0.25mm on every measurement (plus in this case). Just keep that in mind.

    Glad I could help though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 17 October 2014, 08:01:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:35:53
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:32:55
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:29:30
    Where would I be able to get 62g springs? I missed out on the sprit groupbuy :(
    If you're willing to take the risk with Originative: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs

    You could also wait and see if one of the proxies like BlueBar or Hoffman has extras.

    I actually ended up 2 short on the 62g springs.  So I'll either end up with zero (if I made a mistake somewhere and catch it), or I'll remain 2 short.   :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 08:18:31
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 17 October 2014, 08:01:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:35:53
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:32:55
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 06:29:30
    Where would I be able to get 62g springs? I missed out on the sprit groupbuy :(
    If you're willing to take the risk with Originative: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/accessories/products/springs

    You could also wait and see if one of the proxies like BlueBar or Hoffman has extras.

    I actually ended up 2 short on the 62g springs.  So I'll either end up with zero (if I made a mistake somewhere and catch it), or I'll remain 2 short.   :(

    I believe I have about 20 spares. PM incoming.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:08:59
    what mean keytravel?
    what keyboard with less keytravel
    and how make it?

     :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:15:04
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:05:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:03:43
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:02:08
    I guess it's not such a simple question after all :P

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:00:11
    Keyboard is love, keyboard is life.

    I just want to enjoy my feeling :D.



    I'm in it for making hacking and engineering.

    I also love to make the hack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: margo baggins on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:47:41
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:15:04
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:05:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:03:43
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:02:08
    I guess it's not such a simple question after all :P

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 07:00:11
    Keyboard is love, keyboard is life.

    I just want to enjoy my feeling :D.



    I'm in it for making hacking and engineering.

    I also love to make the hack.

    I like making hack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:49:15
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:08:59
    what mean keytravel?
    what keyboard with less keytravel
    and how make it?

     :thumb:

    Keytravel is the distance you can press down a key. For Cherry MX that's 4mm, you could reduce it with o-rings.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:15:04
    I also love to make the hack.

    You cheeky bugger I see what you did there! Wait I'm confused it actually might just be my font rendering... I'm confus :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 13:20:23
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:49:15
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:15:04
    I also love to make the hack.

    You cheeky bugger I see what you did there! Wait I'm confused it actually might just be my font rendering... I'm confus :-X

    I think he is referring to the MCHCK.
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:08:59
    what mean keytravel?
    what keyboard with less keytravel
    and how make it?

     :thumb:

    Keytravel or "key travel" is the amount of travel between the "rest" state and the bottom out. It's usually 4mm or 4.1mm.

    Alps are less at 3.7mm or so.

    Scissor switch keyboards, cherry ML, and topre short throw are even less at about 2.1mm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 17 October 2014, 13:22:14
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 17 October 2014, 13:20:23
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:49:15
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:15:04
    I also love to make the hack.

    You cheeky bugger I see what you did there! Wait I'm confused it actually might just be my font rendering... I'm confus :-X

    I think he is referring to the MCHCK.

    I thought it was because you said "I like making hacking...", where you presumably meant "I like making, hacking,...", so he was taking a jab at that and saying he loves to make hack.  But I dunno.   ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 22:13:15
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:49:15
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:08:59
    what mean keytravel?
    what keyboard with less keytravel
    and how make it?

     :thumb:
    Keytravel is the distance you can press down a key. For Cherry MX that's 4mm, you could reduce it with o-rings.
    i plan make less actutaion travel like this ;D
    http://www.khangfixesit.com/2012/03/mechanical-keyboard-o-ring-mod.html  (http://www.khangfixesit.com/2012/03/mechanical-keyboard-o-ring-mod.html)
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:08:59
    what mean keytravel?
    what keyboard with less keytravel
    and how make it?
    :thumb:
    Quote
    Keytravel or "key travel" is the amount of travel between the "rest" state and the bottom out. It's usually 4mm or 4.1mm.
    Alps are less at 3.7mm or so.

    Scissor switch keyboards, cherry ML, and topre short throw are even less at about 2.1mm.
    i still confused key travel and acutation i think key travel when you press letter to letter :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 17 October 2014, 22:17:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 22:13:15
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:49:15
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:08:59
    what mean keytravel?
    what keyboard with less keytravel
    and how make it?

     :thumb:
    Keytravel is the distance you can press down a key. For Cherry MX that's 4mm, you could reduce it with o-rings.
    i plan make less actutaion travel like this ;D
    http://www.khangfixesit.com/2012/03/mechanical-keyboard-o-ring-mod.html  (http://www.khangfixesit.com/2012/03/mechanical-keyboard-o-ring-mod.html)
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:08:59
    what mean keytravel?
    what keyboard with less keytravel
    and how make it?
    :thumb:
    Quote
    Keytravel or "key travel" is the amount of travel between the "rest" state and the bottom out. It's usually 4mm or 4.1mm.
    Alps are less at 3.7mm or so.

    Scissor switch keyboards, cherry ML, and topre short throw are even less at about 2.1mm.
    i still confused key travel and acutation i think key travel when you press letter to letter :))

    Key travel is from when a key is at rest to fully depressed.  Actuation is when the switch registers the keystroke.  For Cherry MX the key travel is 4mm with actuation happening at 2mm.  The Kaliah switches in the new Razer boards I believe are 3.8 or 3.7mm travel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 22:18:38
    What is the cheapest method of converting a DIN 5 (AT) connector to USB or PS/2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:21:00
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 17 October 2014, 22:18:38
    What is the cheapest method of converting a DIN 5 (AT) connector to USB or PS/2?
    Din5 to ps/2 converter. About $2.
    Ps/2 to USB converter. Think the cheapest active I've seen is $5 but mine cost around $12.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:51:20
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 17 October 2014, 22:17:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 22:13:15
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:49:15
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:08:59
    what mean keytravel?
    what keyboard with less keytravel
    and how make it?

     :thumb:
    Keytravel is the distance you can press down a key. For Cherry MX that's 4mm, you could reduce it with o-rings.
    i plan make less actutaion travel like this ;D
    http://www.khangfixesit.com/2012/03/mechanical-keyboard-o-ring-mod.html  (http://www.khangfixesit.com/2012/03/mechanical-keyboard-o-ring-mod.html)
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 11:08:59
    what mean keytravel?
    what keyboard with less keytravel
    and how make it?
    :thumb:
    Quote
    Keytravel or "key travel" is the amount of travel between the "rest" state and the bottom out. It's usually 4mm or 4.1mm.
    Alps are less at 3.7mm or so.

    Scissor switch keyboards, cherry ML, and topre short throw are even less at about 2.1mm.
    i still confused key travel and acutation i think key travel when you press letter to letter :))
    Key travel is from when a key is at rest to fully depressed.  Actuation is when the switch registers the keystroke.  For Cherry MX the key travel is 4mm with actuation happening at 2mm.  The Kaliah switches in the new Razer boards I believe are 3.8 or 3.7mm travel.
    thx but i mean like this actually btw
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
    is there existed small cherry keycap?
    and teensy only support 1 LED?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 01:33:54
    Does anyone know of a way to convert Mini-DIN-5 to PS/2? Also have one of those that I cannot connect to anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:26:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:51:20
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
    is there existed small cherry keycap?
    and teensy only support 1 LED?

    Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 01:33:54
    Does anyone know of a way to convert Mini-DIN-5 to PS/2? Also have one of those that I cannot connect to anything.

    Mini-Din-5 or AT? Can you post a picture of the connector?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:36:32
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:26:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:51:20
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
    is there existed small cherry keycap?
    and teensy only support 1 LED?
    Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.
    yup :)) like matias arrow keys but more wide
    btw where pins led in teensy 2.0 for wire/resistor it's same with the switch and how control on/off
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:11:37
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:26:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:51:20
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
    is there existed small cherry keycap?
    and teensy only support 1 LED?

    Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

    They exist
    (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/12939739263_7136b5cbdb_o.jpg)

    Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:13:45
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:11:37
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:26:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:51:20
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
    is there existed small cherry keycap?
    and teensy only support 1 LED?

    Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

    They exist
    Show Image
    (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/12939739263_7136b5cbdb_o.jpg)


    Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.

    Woah! What board is that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:15:48
    Quote from: MOZ on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:13:45
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:11:37
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:26:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:51:20
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
    is there existed small cherry keycap?
    and teensy only support 1 LED?

    Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

    They exist
    Show Image
    (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/12939739263_7136b5cbdb_o.jpg)


    Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.

    Woah! What board is that?

    Pinnacle Deko fastaction keyboard.

    Probably my fav keyboard with cherry switches.

    album here:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157641884809274/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:43:28
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:11:37
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:26:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:51:20
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
    is there existed small cherry keycap?
    and teensy only support 1 LED?

    Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

    They exist
    Show Image
    (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/12939739263_7136b5cbdb_o.jpg)


    Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.
    cool 14/15mm woulde be cool old cherry have 16mm i think
    Quote from: MOZ on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:13:45
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:11:37
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:26:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:51:20
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
    is there existed small cherry keycap?
    and teensy only support 1 LED?

    Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

    They exist
    Show Image
    (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/12939739263_7136b5cbdb_o.jpg)


    Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.

    Woah! What board is that?
    You can not just leave, before answering :-X
    or LED not really matter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:48:08
    Really cool battlestation board. What purpose does the LED screen serve?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:52:51
    Quote from: MOZ on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:48:08
    Really cool battlestation board. What purpose does the LED screen serve?
    so LED caps not really matter :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:13:38
    What are the screw sizes for the poker 2? Are they easy to get? Are the sizes of washer important or do we just get roughly same sized one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:36:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 04 October 2014, 23:21:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:52:23
    What is cable have 7 wires/poles?
    While I am not sure which ones use 7 specifically.  But USB 3.0 uses 9.  This link (http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Connectors/_/N-778d5?P=1z0x3z5) is for all 7 wire din connectors.  There are other styles as well.  Many to choose from if you aren't to picky about size and such.
    din quite hard find btw, i try rj45 too big, is there other choice shape like usb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:41:10
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:36:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 04 October 2014, 23:21:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:52:23
    What is cable have 7 wires/poles?
    While I am not sure which ones use 7 specifically.  But USB 3.0 uses 9.  This link (http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Connectors/_/N-778d5?P=1z0x3z5) is for all 7 wire din connectors.  There are other styles as well.  Many to choose from if you aren't to picky about size and such.
    din quite hard find btw, i try rj45 too big, is there other choice shape like usb

    You could take a look at DB-9 connectors.  Shouldn't be that tough to find.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:56:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:41:10
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:36:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 04 October 2014, 23:21:33
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:52:23
    What is cable have 7 wires/poles?
    While I am not sure which ones use 7 specifically.  But USB 3.0 uses 9.  This link (http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Connectors/_/N-778d5?P=1z0x3z5) is for all 7 wire din connectors.  There are other styles as well.  Many to choose from if you aren't to picky about size and such.
    din quite hard find btw, i try rj45 too big, is there other choice shape like usb
    You could take a look at DB-9 connectors.  Shouldn't be that tough to find.
    it's easier find indeed but too big for just connect two halves :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:11:33
    Quote from: MOZ on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:48:08
    Really cool battlestation board. What purpose does the LED screen serve?

    hard to say, but I think it outputs useful information.

    This was a video editing keyboard, so it's easy to imagine a whole host of things. The driver CD only has Win2000 and WinXP drivers though.

    I would also like to note it does NOT work properly (no upcodes are being sent from the adapter, confirmed with debug mode and hid listen) with a soarer, but will work (somewhat: 104 normal keys work fine all the rest depend on the adapter being used) with other converters. No idea why yet.

    I'll be publishing what I know once I know more. Unlike the WEY, these aren't really common enough to publish a WIP as I don't think anyone else has one (IIRC ivan and spamray gutted theirs) and could help test.




    Quote from: frosty on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:13:38
    What are the screw sizes for the poker 2? Are they easy to get? Are the sizes of washer important or do we just get roughly same sized one?
    I believe they are M2 "fine" (or normal, M2 coarse is extremely rare) Washer size is not really important: anything close will be fine.

    If you like I can verify this and get the length after work. PM me if no-one else answers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:20:20
    It's in the FAQ in the OP:

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:26:19
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:20:49
    Does anyone know what size screws the Poker/Pure case uses?

    CPTBadAss, please put this info in the OP:

    Poker/Pure cases use M2-4mm (0.4mm pitch) machine screws to mount the PCB to the case. McMaster-Carr part # 92000A011

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:55:22
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:26:38
    Mini-Din-5 or AT? Can you post a picture of the connector?

    More
    (http://i.imgur.com/XvhNjjM.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 18 October 2014, 15:34:48
    That looks like a mini-DIN6 with a missing pin.

    Some keyboards such as the Northgate Omnikey 101 use a detachable cable with a male mini-DIN6 (not PS/2!) plug at one end and a male AT (180 degree DIN 5) plug at the other. A male-male mini-DIN6 or PS/2 cable will not work in that setup.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 16:35:58
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 18 October 2014, 15:34:48
    That looks like a mini-DIN6 with a missing pin.

    Some keyboards such as the Northgate Omnikey 101 use a detachable cable with a male mini-DIN6 (not PS/2!) plug at one end and a male AT (180 degree DIN 5) plug at the other. A male-male mini-DIN6 or PS/2 cable will not work in that setup.

    It matches up perfectly to this:

    More
    (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/MiniDIN-5_Diagram.svg/455px-MiniDIN-5_Diagram.svg.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 17:42:43
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 16:35:58
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 18 October 2014, 15:34:48
    That looks like a mini-DIN6 with a missing pin.

    Some keyboards such as the Northgate Omnikey 101 use a detachable cable with a male mini-DIN6 (not PS/2!) plug at one end and a male AT (180 degree DIN 5) plug at the other. A male-male mini-DIN6 or PS/2 cable will not work in that setup.

    It matches up perfectly to this:

    More
    Show Image
    (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/MiniDIN-5_Diagram.svg/455px-MiniDIN-5_Diagram.svg.png)

    The missing pin (pin 2) is not connected. It's a mini DIN-6 missing a pin and will likely work just fine with a USB adapter.

    see here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2_port

    Many lexmark IBMs are also missing pin6, which is also not connected.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 18 October 2014, 18:41:52

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:20:20
    It's in the FAQ in the OP:

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:26:19
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:20:49
    Does anyone know what size screws the Poker/Pure case uses?

    CPTBadAss, please put this info in the OP:

    Poker/Pure cases use M2-4mm (0.4mm pitch) machine screws to mount the PCB to the case. McMaster-Carr part # 92000A011

    Thanks JD and dorkvader
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mozaiq on Sun, 19 October 2014, 05:52:20
    A quick question regarding the programmability of the Poker II:

    Assume I program '&', which is shift+7 to the 'a' key. Further assume that Pn lock is activated. Now if I press 'a' I will get '&' and if I press Pn+'a' I will get 'a'. So far, so good. Now what will be the result if I press shift+'a'? And what do I have to press to get 'A', Pn+shift+'a' I assume?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:03:30
    what korean spring is a tad heavier then mx reds? i forgot :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:04:11
    Quote from: mozaiq on Sun, 19 October 2014, 05:52:20
    1. Now what will be the result if I press shift+'a'?
    2. And what do I have to press to get 'A', Pn+shift+'a' I assume?

    1. Shift+shift+a or maybe just a? I don't know :-X
    2. Yes.

    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:03:30
    what korean spring is a tad heavier then mx reds? i forgot :)

    62g-65g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:04:57
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:04:11
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:03:30
    what korean spring is a tad heavier then mx reds? i forgot :)

    62g-65g.

    thanks homie
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:30:35
    btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor? :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:04:10
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:30:35
    btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor? :-X

    gate of transistor goes to LED control pin on microcontroller.
    Source goes to 5V ofcourse
    drain goes to LED supply lines, where the resistors and LEDs are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:11:52
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:04:10
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:30:35
    btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor? :-X
    gate of transistor goes to LED control pin on microcontroller.
    Source goes to 5V ofcourse
    drain goes to LED supply lines, where the resistors and LEDs are.
    moz right really need transistor :eek: cant just write on scripts on/off for caps lock.etc?
    the schematic for feet led is resistor to gnd and wire to pb6,right? where place transistor?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:15:50
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:11:52
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:04:10
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:30:35
    btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor? :-X
    gate of transistor goes to LED control pin on microcontroller.
    Source goes to 5V ofcourse
    drain goes to LED supply lines, where the resistors and LEDs are.
    moz right really need transistor :eek: cant just write on scripts on/off for caps lock.etc?
    the schematic for feet led is resistor to gnd and wire to pb6,right? where place transistor?

    Transistors are usually fast enough to switch the LEDs on/off even with PWM signals, so everything you can control with a normal LED control pin with your firmware of choice (led modes etc) you can use the transistor with.

    Transistor can go anywhere. You can solder wires to it and put it under the PCB somewhere.

    FET should work, MOSFET is probably fine. If you need more help make a thread and I'll look at your design.

    LED control pin can be almost any pin. Check what firmware you are using.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:33:00
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:15:50
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:11:52
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:04:10
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:30:35
    btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor? :-X
    gate of transistor goes to LED control pin on microcontroller.
    Source goes to 5V ofcourse
    drain goes to LED supply lines, where the resistors and LEDs are.
    moz right really need transistor :eek: cant just write on scripts on/off for caps lock.etc?
    the schematic for feet led is resistor to gnd and wire to pb6,right? where place transistor?
    1.Transistors are usually fast enough to switch the LEDs on/off even with PWM signals, so everything you can control with a 2.normal LED control pin with your firmware of choice (led modes etc) you can use the transistor with.
    Transistor can go anywhere. You can solder wires to it and put it under the PCB somewhere.
    FET should work, MOSFET is probably fine. If you need more help make a thread and I'll look at your design.
    3.LED control pin can be almost any pin. Check what firmware you are using.
    thx :thumb:,
    1.i just know
    2.really thx i think solder on teensy
    3.i use teensy may use gh60 firm like matt3o thread
    scheme
    (http://i.imgur.com/VdRMMYc.png)
    so what mean pb6 for led in teensy?
    no need make thread :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:43:05
    What keyboard has nixdorf switches in it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:59:30
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:43:05
    What keyboard has nixdorf switches in it?

    Nixdorf keyboards like the Softkey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 17:01:28
    Any way to tell if a zenith zkb2 has green alps or not? By model number on back or anything, or does a keycap need removed to tell?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:03:28
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:59:30
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:43:05
    What keyboard has nixdorf switches in it?

    Nixdorf keyboards like the Softkey.

    that one used cherry switches (with the clear top)

    Keyboards with actual nixdorf (non cherry) switches are very uncommon. Here is an example:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaata/sets/72157640956847424/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:09:23
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:03:28
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:59:30
    Quote from: Elocutive on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:43:05
    What keyboard has nixdorf switches in it?

    Nixdorf keyboards like the Softkey.

    that one used cherry switches (with the clear top)

    Keyboards with actual nixdorf (non cherry) switches are very uncommon. Here is an example:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaata/sets/72157640956847424/

    Crap, I was thinking of the Nixdorf Cherry since that's what most people mean.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:51:58
    What screws do GONs use (more specifically MX Mini)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:35:28
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:51:58
    What screws do GONs use (more specifically MX Mini)?

    Check GON's Q&A thread in his forum

    that question gets answered like every other page
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:45:01
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:35:28
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:51:58
    What screws do GONs use (more specifically MX Mini)?

    Check GON's Q&A thread in his forum

    that question gets answered like every other page
    fine meany head

    thanks...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FRD on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:03:50
    ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:23:48
    Quote from: FRD on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:03:50
    Could anyone with Ducky Mini provide a picture of a single switch w/o keycap?

    I'm wondering w/e the switch is rotated upside down with LED on top of it (like on most other baclighting keyboards, Ducky's included) or was it kept in normal position with LED at the bottom of the switch.

    The Mini's keycaps have printing at the bottom part of keycap (as apposed to Shine 3 and even Shine 4 top part of keycap printing). So i guess they went with the latter, but would like someone to confirm it.

    http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113_1361&products_id=28247&zenid=2baba418eaa33e76f2c57b3738c3a353

    (scroll down)

    LED at the bottom of the switch - you can tell by the position of the legends.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FRD on Mon, 20 October 2014, 00:29:11
    ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 20 October 2014, 05:32:34
    the legends on that set you linked is downright ugly. having translucent legends just isn't worth it imo. good news is, there are plenty of alternatives depending on your budget. GMK doubleshot sets are generally unmatched in the aesthetics department, and also the quality department according to the majority here, but one will set you back a fair ~$120+. there are plenty of other cheaper non-GMK sets, but i'm not a fan of the ones that don't use Cherry legends and/or have SA profile

    question: why has my post count stopped updating? this one did, but i'm sure i stayed at 110 posts for my last 3-5 posts. not a big deal, just curious if some part of the code is not working properly
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trizkut on Mon, 20 October 2014, 05:40:29
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 20 October 2014, 05:32:34

    question: why has my post count stopped updating? this one did, but i'm sure i stayed at 110 posts for my last 3-5 posts. not a big deal, just curious if some part of the code is not working properly

    posts in the off-topic forum don't count
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 20 October 2014, 05:46:37
    ooh, gotcha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 20 October 2014, 06:55:17
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 18 October 2014, 17:42:43
    The missing pin (pin 2) is not connected. It's a mini DIN-6 missing a pin and will likely work just fine with a USB adapter.

    see here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2_port

    Many lexmark IBMs are also missing pin6, which is also not connected.

    It's physically incompatible with the PS/2 port.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Mon, 20 October 2014, 07:42:54
    Has KBC/KBT/Vortex stop producing Pures already?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 20 October 2014, 08:22:04
    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 20 October 2014, 07:42:54
    Has KBC/KBT/Vortex stop producing Pures already?

    Probably since the Pure Pros came out but I don't think there ever was an official announcement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Mon, 20 October 2014, 08:34:23
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 20 October 2014, 08:22:04
    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 20 October 2014, 07:42:54
    Has KBC/KBT/Vortex stop producing Pures already?

    Probably since the Pure Pros came out but I don't think there ever was an official announcement.

    Thnx.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Mon, 20 October 2014, 14:43:11
    Is it true that PFU will restart production of blank, colored keycaps for the HHKB & Realforce and if so, when?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 20 October 2014, 21:22:32
    Quote from: hordak on Mon, 20 October 2014, 14:43:11
    Is it true that PFU will restart production of blank, colored keycaps for the HHKB & Realforce and if so, when?

    PFU (Pana Facom Usac) doesn't produce the keycaps for the HHKB, I am pretty sure Topre does. I don't think they will restart production, but I don't know for sure. Does anyone else know different?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 20 October 2014, 21:24:05
    Quote from: hordak on Mon, 20 October 2014, 14:43:11
    Is it true that PFU will restart production of blank, colored keycaps for the HHKB & Realforce and if so, when?

    Topre does production.

    They're not going to do anymore, since no manufacturers have ordered any.

    If you can muster up a few thousand orders, let me know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 20 October 2014, 21:24:43
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 20 October 2014, 21:22:32
    Quote from: hordak on Mon, 20 October 2014, 14:43:11
    Is it true that PFU will restart production of blank, colored keycaps for the HHKB & Realforce and if so, when?

    PFU (Pana Facom Usac) doesn't produce the keycaps for the HHKB, I am pretty sure Topre does. I don't think they will restart production, but I don't know for sure. Does anyone else know different?

    I've had a friend in Japan asking some store owners, haven't heard any good news on that front yet  :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hordak on Tue, 21 October 2014, 09:48:40
    Ok thanks guys, that sucks. We should add it to massdrop.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 13:38:05
    Is the Poker II the kind of board that you can change stems/springs without soldering (just opening it from the top)? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 October 2014, 13:39:00
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 13:38:05
    Is the Poker II the kind of board that you can change stems/springs without soldering (just opening it from the top)?

    No, the board is plate mounted and doesn't have the specialized cutouts to allow for this swap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 21 October 2014, 14:34:29
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 13:38:05
    Is the Poker II the kind of board that you can change stems/springs without soldering (just opening it from the top)?

    No, but the OG poker is. AKA the Poker X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 14:41:09
    Ah, I see.  I could have sworn I read something about the Poker being capable, and I guess that is indeed correct (just without the "II").  Thanks both of you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:24:31
    Where does one buy springs other than originative? Originative has been out of all except 55g and 50g limited.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:28:59
    Quote from: wes1099 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:24:31
    Where does one buy springs other than originative? Originative has been out of all except 55g and 50g limited.

    Here? (if you don't mind waiting for the next batch) http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Tue, 21 October 2014, 19:05:50
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:28:59
    Quote from: wes1099 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:24:31
    Where does one buy springs other than originative? Originative has been out of all except 55g and 50g limited.

    Here? (if you don't mind waiting for the next batch) http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0
    You might have to wait ~6 months before R3 Springs GB starts...

    I've stocked quite a few  60-68g springs in my store (http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories). Might have one 50, 55 & 85g pack left too.

    Shipping will be expensive though (if you only purchase one pack of springs). But if you're also looking for switches, I have pretty much all but 2 Cherry switches in stock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nikron on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:44:11
    What makes a keycap "Dolch"?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: epzy on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:46:05
    Quote from: nikron on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:44:11
    What makes a keycap "Dolch"?

    If it looks like this it's Dolch.: http://i.imgur.com/eAY8J.jpg

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:49:45
    how to coloring pbt keycaps? i want keep color just trying to cover letters/blank
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 22 October 2014, 03:08:46
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:49:45
    how to coloring pbt keycaps? i want keep color just trying to cover letters/blank

    Depends on the printing methode. Dyesu is hard/impossible to remove. If it's lasered you could try acetone or some light sanding?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 03:20:01
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 22 October 2014, 03:08:46
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:49:45
    how to coloring pbt keycaps? i want keep color just trying to cover letters/blank

    Depends on the printing methode. Dyesu is hard/impossible to remove. If it's lasered you could try acetone or some light sanding?
    yup laser, I've tried acetone but it does not work amplas make the texture broken
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 22 October 2014, 03:57:51
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 03:20:01
    yup laser, I've tried acetone but it does not work amplas make the texture broken

    I don't think you can remove laser printing without removing a little bit of material :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Veridis on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:06:50
    Noob question here: What profile are "Artisan" keycaps? Those that have faces in them, or are made of different matterials.
    If they are OEM profile, would they look out of place on a keyboard with cherry profile keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:35:08
    Quote from: Veridis on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:06:50
    Noob question here: What profile are "Artisan" keycaps? Those that have faces in them, or are made of different matterials.
    If they are OEM profile, would they look out of place on a keyboard with cherry profile keycaps?

    Since most of them don't have a regular flat surface you can't really say they have a specific profile. Some of them go very well with Cherry profile caps, some not so much, it depends which profile was used as the base of the keycap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:43:04
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 22 October 2014, 03:57:51
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 03:20:01
    yup laser, I've tried acetone but it does not work amplas make the texture broken

    I don't think you can remove laser printing without removing a little bit of material :(
    lol, little coloring is good choiche  i think what good paint for coloring keycap
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 22 October 2014, 06:11:26
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:43:04
    lol, little coloring is good choiche  i think what good paint for coloring keycap

    Painting the keycaps will wear off and dying them, which is a better solution, won't cover printing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 October 2014, 07:19:06
    Quote from: nikron on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:44:11
    What makes a keycap "Dolch"?
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1813#Dolch

    Originally, the Dolch color way came from network sniffers. There's also inet network sniffers and other companies which made the system in that colorway but Dolch is the most well known one. AFAIK, a network sniffer is a type of portable computer system.

    Recently, there has been some keycap sets made in the colorway which is referred to as Dolch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 22 October 2014, 12:05:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 October 2014, 07:19:06
    Quote from: nikron on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:44:11
    What makes a keycap "Dolch"?
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1813#Dolch

    Originally, the Dolch color way came from network sniffers. There's also inet network sniffers and other companies which made the system in that colorway but Dolch is the most well known one. AFAIK, a network sniffer is a type of portable computer system.


    there is also a cardiac monitor. I think the inet was used for more than just network sniffing. I hope to one day figure it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 22 October 2014, 15:19:47
    Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 22 October 2014, 12:05:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 October 2014, 07:19:06
    Quote from: nikron on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:44:11
    What makes a keycap "Dolch"?
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1813#Dolch

    Originally, the Dolch color way came from network sniffers. There's also inet network sniffers and other companies which made the system in that colorway but Dolch is the most well known one. AFAIK, a network sniffer is a type of portable computer system.


    there is also a cardiac monitor. I think the inet was used for more than just network sniffing. I hope to one day figure it out.

    i have a new end game item

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:04:24
    I've got a QFR and a Poker 2. I switch out the keyboards and keep the QFR cord depending on what I am doing. When I switch to the Poker 2 no worries type away. When I switch back to the QFR I get a "USB not recognized" and have to replug the usb from the computer even though it's the original QFR cord. IS there a work around here?

    Also small random question when I start a new topic on GH it times me out 90% of the time but my thread still posts. Others having this problem? Is there already a thread on this?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:05:56
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:04:24
    Also small random question when I start a new topic on GH it times me out 90% of the time but my thread still posts. Others having this problem? Is there already a thread on this?
    Yeah lots of people are having this problem, but just remember that most of the time your thread posted so don't just try again, check and see if it went through
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:11:14
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:04:24
    Is there already a thread on this?

    Yep (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63187.0)!  We'll just have to put up with the behaviour until we can find a solution to the problem.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pksk on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:22:35
    What do owners of smaller keyboard (i.e Poker II) do when a key you need to use isn't on your board? (for example, the Poker II doesn't have a key for ~).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:33:40
    Quote from: pksk on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:22:35
    What do owners of smaller keyboard (i.e Poker II) do when a key you need to use isn't on your board? (for example, the Poker II doesn't have a key for ~).
    FN layer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pksk on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:44:42
    Ah yes, of course. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 23 October 2014, 04:00:11
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 22 October 2014, 06:11:26
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 22 October 2014, 04:43:04
    lol, little coloring is good choiche  i think what good paint for coloring keycap

    Painting the keycaps will wear off and dying them, which is a better solution, won't cover printing.
    not paint i mean dyeing :D
    -----------------------------------------
    btw there any 1.75 keycaps R1(R4)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 October 2014, 05:56:14
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 23 October 2014, 04:00:11
    btw there any 1.75 keycaps R1(R4)

    Not that I know of.

    Quote from: Lain1911 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:04:24
    I've got a QFR and a Poker 2. I switch out the keyboards and keep the QFR cord depending on what I am doing. When I switch to the Poker 2 no worries type away. When I switch back to the QFR I get a "USB not recognized" and have to replug the usb from the computer even though it's the original QFR cord. IS there a work around here?

    Does this problem happen with another cable?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlackWidowMan777 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:34:22
    Is it possible to upload an image to a PM? It's on my computer so no url.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:35:22
    Quote from: BlackWidowMan777 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:34:22
    Is it possible to upload an image to a PM? It's on my computer so no url.

    You can't attach anything to PMs unfortunately. In order to do so, you'll have to upload it to imgur or another service like that. Alternatively, most users have a little button where you can send them an email.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlackWidowMan777 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:50:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:35:22
    Quote from: BlackWidowMan777 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:34:22
    Is it possible to upload an image to a PM? It's on my computer so no url.

    You can't attach anything to PMs unfortunately. In order to do so, you'll have to upload it to imgur or another service like that. Alternatively, most users have a little button where you can send them an email.

    can u suggest which one to use...imgur the best?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:55:13
    Quote from: BlackWidowMan777 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:50:26
    can u suggest which one to use...imgur the best?

    I use imgur and flickr.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlackWidowMan777 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 07:12:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:55:13
    Quote from: BlackWidowMan777 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 06:50:26
    can u suggest which one to use...imgur the best?

    I use imgur and flickr.

    turned out imgur is perfecto. thanks a bunch!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 14:43:34
    How thick are switch tools from the_beast?  Just want to gauge cost for making my own.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:32:23
    60% keyboard with an alps compatible PCB that would fit in a poker case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:35:41
    Quote from: Elocutive on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:32:23
    60% keyboard with an alps compatible PCB that would fit in a poker case?

    Duck Mini. Should be pretty much the only one though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:53:57
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:35:41
    Quote from: Elocutive on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:32:23
    60% keyboard with an alps compatible PCB that would fit in a poker case?

    Duck Mini. Should be pretty much the only one though.

    It's the only one until GON's ALPS 60% PCB gets off the ground

    It's been in development for a REALLY long time though, since before I was a member here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:56:30
    And the only TKL one is the Kingsaver correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:58:14
    Quote from: Elocutive on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:56:30
    And the only TKL one is the Kingsaver correct?

    I think so, unless duck made one as well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Thu, 23 October 2014, 16:01:54
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:58:14
    Quote from: Elocutive on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:56:30
    And the only TKL one is the Kingsaver correct?

    I think so, unless duck made one as well
    Duck made the kingsaver did he not?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 23 October 2014, 16:02:24
    Quote from: Elocutive on Thu, 23 October 2014, 16:01:54
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:58:14
    Quote from: Elocutive on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:56:30
    And the only TKL one is the Kingsaver correct?

    I think so, unless duck made one as well
    Duck made the kingsaver did he not?

    he did

    i just had a stupid there for a second
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tennobanzai on Thu, 23 October 2014, 17:51:46
    Where's the best place to buy a Noppoo keyboard in the US?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 23 October 2014, 17:52:52
    Does anyone know if realforce sells their hangul topre keycap sets separately?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 23 October 2014, 18:18:18
    Quote from: Pemdas on Thu, 23 October 2014, 17:52:52
    Does anyone know if realforce sells their hangul topre keycap sets separately?

    i didn't even know they made hangul sets

    they probably don't, since they barely sell anything other than keyboards these days
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Veridis on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:04:57
    Another noob question..  Is it possible to clean off the dirt on laser etched legends? The ASDF keys on mine turnes gray after a week!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:18:47


    Quote from: Veridis on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:04:57
    Is it possible to clean off the dirt on laser etched legends?

    Yes. You can soak caps on dish soap, denture trans, or laundry detergent. Sometimes I'll use wet naps for a quick clean.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:45:45
    What buckling springs keyboards were being manufactured in 1982.  I would love to get a keyboard from my birthyear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 23 October 2014, 21:14:29
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:45:45
    What buckling springs keyboards were being manufactured in 1982.  I would love to get a keyboard from my birthyear.

    Would be Model F I think. Maybe some early Ms, but I'm not 100% sure
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 23 October 2014, 21:44:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:45:45
    What buckling springs keyboards were being manufactured in 1982.  I would love to get a keyboard from my birthyear.

    My guess is neither. I think it was at least 1983, but I may be wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 21:51:05
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 23 October 2014, 21:44:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:45:45
    What buckling springs keyboards were being manufactured in 1982.  I would love to get a keyboard from my birthyear.

    My guess is neither. I think it was at least 1983, but I may be wrong.
    Yeah '83
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:19:05
    Thanks guys.  I guess my quest for 1983 F starts next month.  Were there any with the inverted T arrow keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:21:14
    Oh wow so I just went to look at my bigfoot F and it's '82. Your birthday wouldn't happen to be 5/27, would it  :p?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:28:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:21:14
    Oh wow so I just went to look at my bigfoot F and it's '82. Your birthday wouldn't happen to be 5/27, would it  :p?

    Nope, Jan 24.  I wouldn't be that picky.  Anything from 82 would suffice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:30:30
    Is their alternative firmware for a stock ducky 3 tkl controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:32:53
    Quote from: jackalope on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:30:30
    Is their alternative firmware for a stock ducky 3 tkl controller?

    I do not believe so.  To my knowledge that would require a controller swap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:34:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:28:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:21:14
    Oh wow so I just went to look at my bigfoot F and it's '82. Your birthday wouldn't happen to be 5/27, would it  :p?

    Nope, Jan 24.  I wouldn't be that picky.  Anything from 82 would suffice.
    Well, if you want a huge, heavy keyboard that can't be used I'd give it you for what I paid :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jacobolus on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:55:27
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 17:01:28
    Any way to tell if a zenith zkb2 has green alps or not? By model number on back or anything, or does a keycap need removed to tell?
    No way I know of. You could maybe tell if you could figure out the date.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 24 October 2014, 08:17:26
    this is shop have SP?
    http://www.smartkeyboardsolutions.com/cherry-mx-switches.htm (http://www.smartkeyboardsolutions.com/cherry-mx-switches.htm)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 October 2014, 09:57:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:32:53
    Quote from: jackalope on Thu, 23 October 2014, 22:30:30
    Is their alternative firmware for a stock ducky 3 tkl controller?

    I do not believe so.  To my knowledge that would require a controller swap.
    I wonder if you could teensy or then use hasu's TMK firmware.
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 24 October 2014, 08:17:26
    this is shop have SP?
    http://www.smartkeyboardsolutions.com/cherry-mx-switches.htm (http://www.smartkeyboardsolutions.com/cherry-mx-switches.htm)
    I don't think that's SP's website.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 24 October 2014, 13:24:35
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 24 October 2014, 08:17:26
    this is shop have SP?
    http://www.smartkeyboardsolutions.com/cherry-mx-switches.htm (http://www.smartkeyboardsolutions.com/cherry-mx-switches.htm)

    No, they don't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Fri, 24 October 2014, 21:06:19
    What do people do with their topre keyboards after they harvest the domes to use in another one?  Do people actually buy them with the inconsistent-but-not-in-a-planned-out-way weights? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 24 October 2014, 21:10:48
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Fri, 24 October 2014, 21:06:19
    What do people do with their topre keyboards after they harvest the domes to use in another one?  Do people actually buy them with the inconsistent-but-not-in-a-planned-out-way weights?
    Normally there's enough left to make something consistent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Fri, 24 October 2014, 22:22:19
    My fault for not fully explaining my thought process.  I mainly meant like when someone harvests 55g domes for an HHKB, their original 55G board will still have some 55 due to the HHKB obviously having fewer keys.  So even if you trade all the same keys the HHKB has, there will be a couple modifiers on the bottom row that are 55 while the rest are 45, and the F row and whatever else will still be 55.  Would people actually buy the resulting board?


    as may be obvious, i've been thinking about swapping 55g domes into my HHKB but don't want to do it if I won't really be able to sell the resulting frankenboard for much
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 24 October 2014, 22:34:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:45:45
    What buckling springs keyboards were being manufactured in 1982.  I would love to get a keyboard from my birthyear.

    Model M technoogy came out in winter of 1984 with the wheelwriters, so it would be model F for sure.

    1982 would be a PC or maybe XT, which can be hard to date accurately.

    Other options are the bigfoot and 3178 "model C" keyboards (I think)

    I can check for you when I get home.

    Quote from: a_ak57 on Fri, 24 October 2014, 22:22:19
    My fault for not fully explaining my thought process.  I mainly meant like when someone harvests 55g domes for an HHKB, their original 55G board will still have some 55 due to the HHKB obviously having fewer keys.  So even if you trade all the same keys the HHKB has, there will be a couple modifiers on the bottom row that are 55 while the rest are 45, and the F row and whatever else will still be 55.  Would people actually buy the resulting board?


    as may be obvious, i've been thinking about swapping 55g domes into my HHKB but don't want to do it if I won't really be able to sell the resulting frankenboard for much

    There's loads of keyboards like that on the classifides: they sell, usually at a discount. I might be interested in one in a few months.

    traditionally I think you put the inconsistent dome on the tenkey (if there is one) and function row, followed by modifiers if necessary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 24 October 2014, 23:05:43
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 24 October 2014, 22:34:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 23 October 2014, 20:45:45
    What buckling springs keyboards were being manufactured in 1982.  I would love to get a keyboard from my birthyear.

    Model M technoogy came out in winter of 1984 with the wheelwriters, so it would be model F for sure.

    1982 would be a PC or maybe XT, which can be hard to date accurately.

    Other options are the bigfoot and 3178 "model C" keyboards (I think)

    I can check for you when I get home.

    Quote from: a_ak57 on Fri, 24 October 2014, 22:22:19
    My fault for not fully explaining my thought process.  I mainly meant like when someone harvests 55g domes for an HHKB, their original 55G board will still have some 55 due to the HHKB obviously having fewer keys.  So even if you trade all the same keys the HHKB has, there will be a couple modifiers on the bottom row that are 55 while the rest are 45, and the F row and whatever else will still be 55.  Would people actually buy the resulting board?


    as may be obvious, i've been thinking about swapping 55g domes into my HHKB but don't want to do it if I won't really be able to sell the resulting frankenboard for much

    There's loads of keyboards like that on the classifides: they sell, usually at a discount. I might be interested in one in a few months.

    traditionally I think you put the inconsistent dome on the tenkey (if there is one) and function row, followed by modifiers if necessary.

    Its funny you mention the bigfoot board.  Hwood34 actually sold me his bigfoot.  The date on the sticker is within 4 months of both my birthday and my wife's birthday.  Probably within days of the exact half way point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 25 October 2014, 06:41:55
    apa kabel yang harus saya gunakan untuk ini :)
    (http://indo-ware.com/foto_produk/23Konektor_Putih_7.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 October 2014, 12:42:20
    How do I remove the manual cover on an IBM 3278? Usually I'd try a few things myself, but I really don't want to damage this cover!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:03:56
    Where can I get broken-in Clear switches/stems? Or is there a way to break-in a lot of switches quickly?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:05:50
    Quote from: cannonking on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:03:56
    1) Where can I get broken-in Clear switches/stems?
    2) Or is there a way to break-in a lot of switches quickly?

    1) Used Cherry or other boards that have Clears.
    2) Type on it a lot
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:23:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:05:50
    Quote from: cannonking on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:03:56
    1) Where can I get broken-in Clear switches/stems?
    2) Or is there a way to break-in a lot of switches quickly?

    1) Used Cherry or other boards that have Clears.
    2) Type on it a lot
    Hmm, how many keypresses do you think it takes to make a switch feel broken-in?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:31:58


    Quote from: cannonking on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:23:36
    Hmm, how many keypresses do you think it takes to make a switch feel broken-in?

    Honestly, you can just type until you're happy with how they feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:34:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:31:58


    Quote from: cannonking on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:23:36
    Hmm, how many keypresses do you think it takes to make a switch feel broken-in?

    Honestly, you can just type until you're happy with how they feel.
    I want to break-in Clears before I lube them because I heard that they take a lot longer to break-in then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:45:35
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 25 October 2014, 12:42:20
    How do I remove the manual cover on an IBM 3278? Usually I'd try a few things myself, but I really don't want to damage this cover!

    I've taken mine apart a few times, If you PM me I'll remember to take pictures showing how. If you're careful it's not so bad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pksk on Sat, 25 October 2014, 23:52:56
    How similar is the sound & feel of Cherry MX Blue switches to the "clicky" Razer Blackwidow switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 26 October 2014, 00:08:47
    based off a couple quick keystrokes through the box on the razer I think they are pretty close but I haven't used one in person.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pksk on Sun, 26 October 2014, 00:20:47
    At Fry's today they had red, brown and razer switches. Not the blue which was the one I really wanted to try, haha! I really like the feel of the razer switch but can't stand the brand, build or fonts...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Sun, 26 October 2014, 00:30:52
    The razer switches are basically slightly modified cherry switches.  If you liked their clicky switches then you would very likely enjoy blue switches. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 26 October 2014, 00:49:07
    Would this setup be considered to have NKRO?  Not that it matters in function due to the physical constraints of the setup, but the inner geek is curious and I lack the full understanding of shift registers.

    http://www.usbtypewriter.com/products/easy-conversion-kit

    http://www.instructables.com/id/USB-Typewriter/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wonko73 on Sun, 26 October 2014, 03:46:37
    I'd like to buy some high quality keycaps for my ordered HHKB2, - any ideas, where to look for it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Sun, 26 October 2014, 04:05:38
    Quote from: Wonko73 on Sun, 26 October 2014, 03:46:37
    I'd like to buy some high quality keycaps for my ordered HHKB2, - any ideas, where to look for it?
    The keycaps are pretty high quality and keysets for the hhkb2 is rather limited
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 26 October 2014, 06:08:33
    Quote from: Wonko73 on Sun, 26 October 2014, 03:46:37
    I'd like to buy some high quality keycaps for my ordered HHKB2, - any ideas, where to look for it?

    If you don't get some MX compatible stems for your HHKB then the only keycaps that you can use are original PFU or Realforce ones. Elitekeyboards have only this set in stock right now: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=pdkb400ktb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 26 October 2014, 06:24:02
    what size spacebar hhkb 7/6.25? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 26 October 2014, 06:36:22
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 26 October 2014, 06:24:02
    what size spacebar hhkb 7/6.25? :)

    Should be 7x.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Sun, 26 October 2014, 06:39:18
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 26 October 2014, 06:36:22
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 26 October 2014, 06:24:02
    what size spacebar hhkb 7/6.25? :)

    Should be 7x.

    It's 6x.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 26 October 2014, 06:50:31
    Quote from: Zeal on Sun, 26 October 2014, 06:39:18
    It's 6x.  :)

    My bad, it is 6x. I had the HHKB layouts for Cherry boards in mind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Sun, 26 October 2014, 08:12:27
    What do people use for Fn keys in 60% setups with Winkeyless layout?

    I'm talking about the one that looks like just any Winkeyless, with the full size right shift.

    Just super curious, never handled a 60% keyboard before, but I do plan to build my own, and trying to figure out what sorts of layouts people use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 26 October 2014, 08:32:40
    Quote from: Karura on Sun, 26 October 2014, 08:12:27
    What do people use for Fn keys in 60% setups with Winkeyless layout?

    I'm talking about the one that looks like just any Winkeyless, with the full size right shift.

    Just super curious, never handled a 60% keyboard before, but I do plan to build my own, and trying to figure out what sorts of layouts people use.

    Personally I barely use the right hand modifiers, so I'd probably use one of those. Besides that FN instead of Caps Lock is also fairly popular.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Sun, 26 October 2014, 13:47:11
    How do I get my 356 mini to work? does it only work on PS2 connection? is there a firmware I have to download? someone please help me out!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Sun, 26 October 2014, 14:29:30
    Sister wants a mechanical for birthday/Christmas with the following:

    - Full-size/Num Pad
    - Backlit (preferably white, to be used in conjunction with those LED covers)
    - Green/Clear switches (after sorta hearing mine)
    - Option for English/Hangul key caps (she loves Korean stuff - not as important as the other 3)

    My first thought would be a Code. However, I'd prefer to stay a bit lower in the price category. So that would probably mean a Shine 3? Only other option off the top of my head would be a TK, but finding one with Green or Clear switches would be quite difficult.

    Any other thoughts?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 26 October 2014, 16:02:17
    Quote from: divito on Sun, 26 October 2014, 14:29:30
    Sister wants a mechanical for birthday/Christmas with the following:

    - Full-size/Num Pad
    - Backlit (preferably white, to be used in conjunction with those LED covers)
    - Green/Clear switches (after sorta hearing mine)
    - Option for English/Hangul key caps (she loves Korean stuff - not as important as the other 3)

    My first thought would be a Code. However, I'd prefer to stay a bit lower in the price category. So that would probably mean a Shine 3? Only other option off the top of my head would be a TK, but finding one with Green or Clear switches would be quite difficult.

    Any other thoughts?

    I'd say a Ducky as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 October 2014, 16:07:46


    Quote from: divito on Sun, 26 October 2014, 14:29:30
    Sister wants a mechanical for birthday/Christmas...

    Any other thoughts?

    I vote for the Ducky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 26 October 2014, 17:24:01
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 25 October 2014, 12:42:20
    How do I remove the manual cover on an IBM 3278? Usually I'd try a few things myself, but I really don't want to damage this cover!
    Illustrated guide.
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64790.0

    Enjoy!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 27 October 2014, 09:10:41
    Kind of a paranoid question:

    Does UV affect non-white boards? Just brought my realforce to work and I now suddenly realized it's gonna be in direct sunlight most of the day. Is there anything to worry about?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 27 October 2014, 09:13:48
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 27 October 2014, 09:10:41
    Does UV affect non-white boards? Just brought my realforce to work and I now suddenly realized it's gonna be in direct sunlight most of the day. Is there anything to worry about?

    Black boards can get a bit bleached out but it will probably take a long time until it's noticeable. Besides, the caps are PBT and will be more durable and less prone to UV damage anyways.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 27 October 2014, 10:04:30
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 27 October 2014, 09:13:48
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 27 October 2014, 09:10:41
    Does UV affect non-white boards? Just brought my realforce to work and I now suddenly realized it's gonna be in direct sunlight most of the day. Is there anything to worry about?

    Black boards can get a bit bleached out but it will probably take a long time until it's noticeable. Besides, the caps are PBT and will be more durable and less prone to UV damage anyways.

    I believe it was the bromine fire retardant that is the primary component of yellowing (and brittleing) of old plastic. I think modern fire retardant formulas are less prone to yellowing. I don't expect you to have an issue.

    The only modern plastic I know of that suffered from it was a clack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 27 October 2014, 10:50:12
    The cable from my Model F AT is really sticky and I want to use a cable from a G80 instead (I still had it as a spare).

    1. Now in this post: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40599.msg815491#msg815491
    It shows the pinout of the Model F, however it doesn't show what the 5th pin (green) does. Is it just a dummy pin?

    2. Additonally there is a wire that is connected to the backplate, is that just connected to GND?

    3. The G80 cable also has 5 wires, but according to Wikipedia, only 4 of them are connected to anything. What's up with that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 11:00:58
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 26 October 2014, 00:49:07
    Would this setup be considered to have NKRO?  Not that it matters in function due to the physical constraints of the setup, but the inner geek is curious and I lack the full understanding of shift registers.

    http://www.usbtypewriter.com/products/easy-conversion-kit

    http://www.instructables.com/id/USB-Typewriter/

    I don't think so. But I'm totally guessing.

    Quote from: Elocutive on Sun, 26 October 2014, 13:47:11
    How do I get my 356 mini to work? does it only work on PS2 connection? is there a firmware I have to download? someone please help me out!

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=6688.0
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43838.0
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40414.0

    According to these threads, it looks like you'll need to use it through ps/2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 27 October 2014, 17:43:11
    Do all cherry keyboards come with gmk as stock keys? (that is thick keys)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 27 October 2014, 17:47:15
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 27 October 2014, 17:43:11
    Do all cherry keyboards come with gmk as stock keys? (that is thick keys)

    No. Modern ones don't have them anymore. Earlier ones can have PBT, ABS or POM keycaps (GMK is only ABS), but mostly thick ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:37:25
    two quick questions.

    Where can I find the default layout for the JD40?  Swill flashed his giveaway board with it and I have no idea what the layout is on this thing.

    Also, anything I need to be aware of before I open up stickered switches?  Thinking of swapping these springs out for clears and a gray on the spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:45:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:37:25
    two quick questions.

    1. Where can I find the default layout for the JD40?  Swill flashed his giveaway board with it and I have no idea what the layout is on this thing.

    2. Also, anything I need to be aware of before I open up stickered switches?  Thinking of swapping these springs out for clears and a gray on the spacebar.

    1. Check the layouts listed in the OP of the JD40 thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47133.0), that's likely what it is. 

    2. I've had experiences where it's harder to get the switch tool inserted properly because the sticker is blocking part of the area where the tool goes, so you may want to be aware of that and be a little more aggressive to compensate.  Other than that, there should be no difference, unless you somehow lift a sticker or something like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:45:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:37:25
    1) Where can I find the default layout for the JD40?

    2) Also, anything I need to be aware of before I open up stickered switches?

    1) http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47133.0

    2) There's nothing to know really unless you're interested in using SIP sockets. The stickers won't work with SIP sockets. Other than that, there is a sticker inbetween the top and bottom of the switch housing. I've not had any problems like Hoff's. However, I don't sticker my switches....just unsticker them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:48:11
    Cool thanks a lot guy.

    The main reason I am wondering about the layout is because Mrs. Melvang is going to take it to work and plug it into her coworkers computer.  I was going to print out the layout so she at least has a road map.  She didn't even know mech boards existed until a couple weeks ago, has never used one, and has never used anything smaller than full sized.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:09:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:45:41
    The stickers won't work with SIP sockets.

    I don't know why everyone says this, I've done this before with no issues.  The sticker has a slit cut in it and the SIP sockets are just below the level of the sticker, so it's perfectly fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:12:23
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:09:10
    I don't know why everyone says this, I've done this before with no issues.  The sticker has a slit cut in it and the SIP sockets are just below the level of the sticker, so it's perfectly fine.

    Shows you what I know about stickers :)). Please ignore my previous statement about SIP sockets since Hoff has stickered far more boards than I have.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:20:08
    Cool thanks guys.  This thing is REALLY weird typing on coming from nothing but full sized boards.  I am ok typing text so far but reaching for backspace feels weird and I can not seem to find the damn quotes.  Even period is weird but I suppose that comes with the territory.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:25:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:20:08
    This thing is REALLY weird typing on coming from nothing but full sized boards.  I am ok typing text so far but reaching for backspace feels weird and I can not seem to find the damn quotes.  Even period is weird but I suppose that comes with the territory.

    You can always tweak the layout on the JD40 to suit you better Melvang. Some people, including JD, have suggested using the HHKB layout. So CTRL or Function takes the place of Caps Lock and |\ is Backspace.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:27:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:25:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:20:08
    This thing is REALLY weird typing on coming from nothing but full sized boards.  I am ok typing text so far but reaching for backspace feels weird and I can not seem to find the damn quotes.  Even period is weird but I suppose that comes with the territory.

    You can always tweak the layout on the JD40 to suit you better Melvang. Some people, including JD, have suggested using the HHKB layout. So CTRL or Function takes the place of Caps Lock and |\ is Backspace.

    Me programming?  You are two funny.  Does the AVR deal support the JD40?  Hey, I found the comma and numbers without looking at the road map!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:28:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:27:29
    Does the AVR deal support the JD40?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0

    Looks like a maybe. Worth a shot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:30:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 27 October 2014, 10:04:30
    Quote from: BlueBär on Mon, 27 October 2014, 09:13:48
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Mon, 27 October 2014, 09:10:41
    Does UV affect non-white boards? Just brought my realforce to work and I now suddenly realized it's gonna be in direct sunlight most of the day. Is there anything to worry about?

    Black boards can get a bit bleached out but it will probably take a long time until it's noticeable. Besides, the caps are PBT and will be more durable and less prone to UV damage anyways.

    I believe it was the bromine fire retardant that is the primary component of yellowing (and brittleing) of old plastic. I think modern fire retardant formulas are less prone to yellowing. I don't expect you to have an issue.

    The only modern plastic I know of that suffered from it was a clack.

    Thank you both! I can rest a little easier tonight.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Veridis on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:38:29
    Quick question again :)

    What profile are the keycaps on the Realforce 87u (45g uniform)? They seem to be lower than OEM, are they like Cherry profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:49:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:28:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:27:29
    Does the AVR deal support the JD40?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0

    Looks like a maybe. Worth a shot.

    I've had nothing but good experiences programming my JD40 with EasyAVR.   :thumb:   I flashed a new layout probably 10 times the first day I used it, because everything I thought would be awesome was super awkward.   :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:57:44
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:49:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:28:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:27:29
    Does the AVR deal support the JD40?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0

    Looks like a maybe. Worth a shot.

    LOL.  Have you found anything that is comfy yet?

    I've had nothing but good experiences programming my JD40 with EasyAVR.   :thumb:   I flashed a new layout probably 10 times the first day I used it, because everything I thought would be awesome was super awkward.   :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 October 2014, 22:09:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:57:44
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:49:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:28:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:27:29
    Does the AVR deal support the JD40?

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0

    Looks like a maybe. Worth a shot.

    I've had nothing but good experiences programming my JD40 with EasyAVR.   :thumb:   I flashed a new layout probably 10 times the first day I used it, because everything I thought would be awesome was super awkward.   :-[

    LOL.  Have you found anything that is comfy yet?

    Sort of.  :P  I basically copied Vibex's function layers (http://www.vibex.info/rev/jd40-review5/6/2014), with a more standard base layer (QWERTY with HHKB-like modifiers).   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 October 2014, 22:14:26
    Quote from: Veridis on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:38:29
    What profile are the keycaps on the Realforce 87u (45g uniform)?
    Pretty sure they're Realforce OEM. OEM doesn't necessarily mean one profile in my opinion. The Ducky OEM caps are different from the stock Leopold caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 22:22:38
    I can take some quick pictures between realforce and cherry profile if you would like. (And OEM)

    But I would say realforce/topre is more like cherry than oem.


    EDIT: Just checked, they are about OEM. Compared to my keycaps from WASDkeyboards, the only row that really stuck out to me was the shift key row as it is a slightly more angled.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 23:39:34
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2MlgxNjAw/z/KxIAAOSwEppUTLf8/$_57.JPG)
    ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Veridis on Mon, 27 October 2014, 23:41:53
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 22:22:38
    I can take some quick pictures between realforce and cherry profile if you would like. (And OEM)

    But I would say realforce/topre is more like cherry than oem.


    EDIT: Just checked, they are about OEM. Compared to my keycaps from WASDkeyboards, the only row that really stuck out to me was the shift key row as it is a slightly more angled.

    But they look a little shorter than OEM(ducky,filco, CM, etc). Isn't Cherry profile similar to OEM except shorter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 28 October 2014, 00:30:17
    i heard topre construction is inspired BS its true?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 28 October 2014, 04:43:24
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 23:39:34
    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2MlgxNjAw/z/KxIAAOSwEppUTLf8/$_57.JPG)

    ?

    Unknown bulgarian switch, I have some of those too: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54013.msg1208590#msg1208590
    Mine are linear reed switches.

    Quote from: Veridis on Mon, 27 October 2014, 23:41:53
    But they look a little shorter than OEM(ducky,filco, CM, etc). Isn't Cherry profile similar to OEM except shorter?

    OEM just means that somebody is doing their own profile. There are differences between each OEM profile, there is not one OEM profile.
    Usually Cherry is a bit lower than OEM, yes. The angles can differ though.

    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 28 October 2014, 00:30:17
    i heard topre construction is inspired BS its true?

    Never heard of that. They're not very similar though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 04:52:32
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 28 October 2014, 00:30:17
    i heard topre construction is inspired BS its true?
    If I recall correctly, BS came before IBM came out with their proto-Topre boards. I believe those proto-Topre boards came before the actual Topre boards. I don't think this is correct.

    Edit: if you check the DT wiki, the patent for BS was put out in 1971. The Topre patent came out in 1984.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: appleonama on Tue, 28 October 2014, 06:29:43
    Where can I buy blank topre keycaps sets.

    like this one http://i.imgur.com/L0oIOOA.jpg?1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 28 October 2014, 06:32:40
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 28 October 2014, 04:43:24
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 23:39:34
    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2MlgxNjAw/z/KxIAAOSwEppUTLf8/$_57.JPG)

    ?

    Unknown bulgarian switch, I have some of those too: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54013.msg1208590#msg1208590
    Mine are linear reed switches.
    man, why do all the cool things have to be in Bulgaria, shipping is so expensive...

    edit: oh yeah just saw your post on it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 06:35:50
    Quote from: appleonama on Tue, 28 October 2014, 06:29:43
    Where can I buy blank topre keycaps sets.

    like this one http://i.imgur.com/L0oIOOA.jpg?1

    This thread has some links (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61148.0) to websites that sell Topre replacement keycap sets. I don't see any blanks in stock though. I think others have bought caps from widebasket but I'm not 100% sure. EK has these blank black HHKB caps too (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=pdkb400ktbn).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 28 October 2014, 08:44:45
    Quote from: appleonama on Tue, 28 October 2014, 06:29:43
    Where can I buy blank topre keycaps sets.

    like this one http://i.imgur.com/L0oIOOA.jpg?1

    You can still get printed sets, but blank sets are out of production unfortunately. A pink blank set sold for 190+shipping a week or so ago on the classifieds, and that's the only one that I've seen for sale since the one in the pic you posted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:07
    Are GON's keyboarsd pcbmount or plate mount?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:59
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:07
    Are GON's keyboarsd pcbmount or plate mount?

    Plate mount. Most of his cases are Viky style cases which have the plate as the top of the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:25:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:59
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:07
    Are GON's keyboarsd pcbmount or plate mount?

    Plate mount. Most of his cases are Viky style cases which have the plate as the top of the case.

    To elaborate, though, the stabilizers are (AFAIK) always PCB mount.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:29:43
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:25:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:59
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:07
    Are GON's keyboarsd pcbmount or plate mount?

    Plate mount. Most of his cases are Viky style cases which have the plate as the top of the case.

    To elaborate, though, the stabilizers are (AFAIK) always PCB mount.   :thumb:
    I am super confused now, please explain. I ordered a bunch of plate mounted winkeyless stabs for my custom builds, I assumed that the plate mounted ones were what I wanted because I plan to use a plate, how to determine?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:31:07
    Karura, every single Korean custom uses PCB mount stabilisers. PCB mount stabilisers can be used with a plate - you just make cutouts on the plate so that they poke through. Those plate mount stabilisers will not work with GONs or pretty much any other Korean custom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:32:28
    Quote from: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:29:43
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:25:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:59
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:07
    Are GON's keyboarsd pcbmount or plate mount?

    Plate mount. Most of his cases are Viky style cases which have the plate as the top of the case.

    To elaborate, though, the stabilizers are (AFAIK) always PCB mount.   :thumb:
    I am super confused now, please explain. I ordered a bunch of plate mounted winkeyless stabs for my custom builds, I assumed that the plate mounted ones were what I wanted because I plan to use a plate, how to determine?

    It depends on the board you're building and how it was designed.  I know that when I built my GON it had PCB mount stabilizers, despite having a plate (they just poked through the holes in the plate).  What board will you be building?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:32:36
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:31:07
    Karura, every single Korean custom uses PCB mount stabilisers. PCB mount stabilisers can be used with a plate - you just make cutouts on the plate so that they poke through. Those plate mount stabilisers will not work with GONs or pretty much any other Korean custom.
    Okay, so I plan to go with a NerD 60 PCB, get a custom plate from mkawa or someone, would my plate mounted stabs still be usable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:33:43
    Quote from: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:29:43
    I am super confused now, please explain. I ordered a bunch of plate mounted winkeyless stabs for my custom builds, I assumed that the plate mounted ones were what I wanted because I plan to use a plate, how to determine?

    Many Korean customs have PCBs which allow Cherry PCB mount stabilizers to clip into the PCB. These PCB mounted stabilizers will sit into the plate but clip into the PCB. Cherry Plate mount simply clip onto the plate and won't clip into the PCB.

    To check, simply find a picture of the PCB. If the stabilizer area has extra holes in the stabilized key locations, then it will accept a Cherry PCB mount stabilizer. If not, use a Cherry plate mounted stabilizer.

    In my experience, I find Cherry PCB mount to be stronger than plate mounted stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:34:05
    Yes. If the plate supports plate mount stabilisers you can use them. It's just that GONs plates, KMAC plates, OTD plates, etc. never do support them. So, yeah, if you get a completely custom plate you can use them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:37:05
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:34:05
    Yes. If the plate supports plate mount stabilisers you can use them. It's just that GONs plates, KMAC plates, OTD plates, etc. never do support them. So, yeah, if you get a completely custom plate you can use them.

    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:25:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:59
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 28 October 2014, 11:59:07
    Are GON's keyboarsd pcbmount or plate mount?

    Plate mount. Most of his cases are Viky style cases which have the plate as the top of the case.

    To elaborate, though, the stabilizers are (AFAIK) always PCB mount.   :thumb:

    And just to be clear, we're talking about Cherry stabilizers. Costar stabilizers are different. They're only plate mount and need a slightly different hole size to snap into.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:41:29
    speaking of stabs, i only recently found out about clipping Cherry stabs so they feel like Costar but still retain the ability to quick swap modifiers. is this worth the effort?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:43:48
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:41:29
    speaking of stabs, i only recently found out about clipping Cherry stabs so they feel like Costar but still retain the ability to quick swap modifiers. is this worth the effort?

    Yes. I clip all my Cherry stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:44:21
    Thanks for the explanations, much appreciated.

    That brings up the question, did I mess up majorly? Are PCB stabs significantly better than plate mounted ones?

    Where to buy PCB mounted ones? :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:46:06
    Quote from: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:44:21
    1) Are PCB stabs significantly better than plate mounted ones?

    2) Where to buy PCB mounted ones?

    1) FWIW, I prefer Cherry PCB stabilizers to plate. I've had plate mounted stabilizers come loose while typing on my Epsilon. Granted, they're not exactly seated correctly but it's still a pain.

    2) I bought mine from Ivan's GB. Perhaps there will be extras floating around soon. I think Mouser no longer carries them. IMSTO and I believe GON has them but the shipping for just stabilizers is a bit much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:48:13
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:41:29
    speaking of stabs, i only recently found out about clipping Cherry stabs so they feel like Costar but still retain the ability to quick swap modifiers. is this worth the effort?

    Absolutely.  It takes about 5 minutes (over-estimation) to do an entire set for a keyboard and the results are positive.  In the grand scheme of things (an entire keyboard build) it is totally worth it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:50:01
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:48:13
    Absolutely.  It takes about 5 minutes (over-estimation) to do an entire set for a keyboard and the results are positive.  In the grand scheme of things (an entire keyboard build) it is totally worth it.

    Agreed. In all honesty, I would rather clip my stabilizers than to sticker my switches. I feel the time invested into clipping stabilizers enhances my boards much more than stickers do. Stickers are larger time investment for minimal return in my opinion. I've done this for a few boards: Swap springs, lube stems/housing, clip stabilizers, and laughed at stickers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:15:20
    i heard 'clipping' and assumed it was a tedious process. looked up an youtube vid and positively surprised to see how wrong i was. another question: exactly which parts are lube-able? e.g. i didn't know springs can be lubed until i read about it on Gon's site, though you need a different type of lubricant for them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:20:25
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:15:20
    another question: exactly which parts are lube-able? e.g. i didn't know springs can be lubed until i read about it on Gon's site, though you need a different type of lubricant for them

    Generally that any part that slides and could cause friction. You can lube the both ends of springs as when you push on a spring, the ends rotate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:21:10
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:15:20
    Exactly which parts are lube-able?

    The parts that will feel different went lubed: Stem, Housing, Spring. You're welcome to lube other parts of your keyboard but they might not have the same feeling or the feeling you want :)).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:27:02
    Another stab question!

    http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/90-wire-for-spacebar-stabilizers.html

    Why do GON make these? Would they be similar to taking the wire from a plate mounted 7u or 6.25u stab for use with a PCB mounted stab?

    What is the purpose?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:29:11
    Quote from: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:27:02
    http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/90-wire-for-spacebar-stabilizers.html

    Why do GON make these?

    Those are Cherry 6.25x and 7x PCB mount stabilizer wires which will work with a plate. If you're harvesting or you order from say Mouser, you won't get 6.25x or 7x wire. So you're stuck with the little housings but no wire to use. Or sometimes you get the bent, Costar-esque wire which will bind against the plate when the switch is actuated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:36:13
    thanks Bluebar and Cpt. turns out there was already a comprehensive guide on lubing written by MagicMeatball, but i could only find it thanks to Google. forum search = meh. and speaking of forum issues, it's quite amusing to see a new topic appear two or three, maybe even four times
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:40:52
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:36:13
    But i could only find it thanks to Google. forum search = meh.

    Many of my answers here are found through Google searching. And all of my searching is done through Google. "Site:Geekhack.org" is the best way to search GH in my opinion. I point this out in the OP as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 14:03:28
    ugh i was just too lazy to set up a custom search engine for this site through google. gonna do that now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 28 October 2014, 19:25:10
    On the topic of clipping stabilizers, can you remove PCB mount stabs after the switches are soldered to the plate or would it require desoldering them all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 28 October 2014, 19:30:00
    Quote from: ComradeSniper on Tue, 28 October 2014, 19:25:10
    On the topic of clipping stabilizers, can you remove PCB mount stabs after the switches are soldered to the plate or would it require desoldering them all?
    Desolder, unfortunately :/

    EDIT: If the hole is large enough then you can remove it by just desoldering that one switch. This is rarely the case though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 28 October 2014, 19:30:16
    It depends on the hole in the plate.  If it is a large rectangle then you might be able to do it with only desoldering the one switch.  If you are using plate mount then you only need to desolder the one switch.  For the record, the only plate I have seen that will allow removing just the one switch for PCB mount would the the spacebar on WYSE terminal boards. 

    The reason is the base of the PCB mount stabilizer is to big to fit through plate mount holes.  So you have to install PCB mount stabs before any switches get soldered to the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 19:36:42
    How can I find a 1800 for their thick PBT caps? Not sure what models for look for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 October 2014, 20:59:27
    Quote from: Karura on Tue, 28 October 2014, 19:36:42
    How can I find a 1800 for their thick PBT caps? Not sure what models for look for.
    Check out this link: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 07:46:32
    Does being a Type-S affect typing feel to any noticeable degree?  I'm trying to figure out if the less "crisp" feeling I get from my HHKB Type-S vs the realforce is entirely due to plastic vs metal or if the silenced nature adds to that and I'd be happier with a normal HHKB.  And would swapping out to 55g domes help?  My thought is the greater initial resistance would lead to a more satisfying collapse and kind of simulate the feeling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 07:57:56
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 07:46:32
    Does being a Type-S affect typing feel to any noticeable degree?  I'm trying to figure out if the less "crisp" feeling I get from my HHKB Type-S vs the realforce is entirely due to plastic vs metal or if the silenced nature adds to that and I'd be happier with a normal HHKB.  And would swapping out to 55g domes help?  My thought is the greater initial resistance would lead to a more satisfying collapse and kind of simulate the feeling.
    The difference between a regular HHKB and a Type-s, aside from the silencing rings in the type-s, is the stems being slightly taller to compensate for the lack of travel.  I only had limited time with a type-s, but I can't remember it feeling too different from a normal hhkb.  Adding 55g domes would definitely give it more snappiness, a number of people around here have done a dome swap with their hhkb's and have been very satisfied with the results.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:13:50
    I see, thanks.  And for selling the harvested board, would it be best to swap out 60 of the main 61 keys of the 55g board for the 60 of the HHKB (leaving I guess the spacebar, the F row, arrows and other clusters as 55g), or should I leave the qwerty keys as 55g and take basically everything else (minus the spacebar again I guess)?  I can see the argument for main cluster consistency of the first method but the allure of still "basically" being a 55g board for the second.


    Or am I overthinking it because the only person who will buy it will be harvesting themselves and won't care?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:14:57
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:13:50
    Or am I overthinking it because the only person who will buy it will be harvesting themselves and won't care?

    I think if you're going to do a swap, swap all the domes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:27:49
    what kibord have staggering like tipro 122 futura? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:28:47
    Hmm, I guess I could actually get my work board in the mix and turn that into the hybrid, making the HHKB 55g, the 87U 45g uniform and then my 104UB some combo that I could decide on.  That'd make the most sense, now that I think about it.  Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:29:12
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:27:49
    what kibord have staggering like tipro 122 futura? :)

    Other Tipro POS boards, there's that new board from reddit that is a 40% that has that layout, I think there are other POS boards too but you'll have to do some digging for. Oh and that IBM 50 key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:33:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:29:12
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:27:49
    what kibord have staggering like tipro 122 futura? :)

    Other Tipro POS boards, there's that new board from reddit that is a 40% that has that layout, I think there are other POS boards too but you'll have to do some digging for. Oh and that IBM 50 key.
    like this? :)
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/2444)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:34:59
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:33:31
    like this? :)
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/2444)


    The WEY boards, any financial keyboard will have a layout similar to that. There's a few Alps boards I've seen like that. And that looks like a POS board so do some hunting of Tipros and other POS keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:36:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:34:59
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:33:31
    like this? :)
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/2444)


    The WEY boards, any financial keyboard will have a layout similar to that. There's a few Alps boards I've seen like that. And that looks like a POS board so do some hunting of Tipros and other POS keyboards.
    [/quote :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:43:19
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 07:46:32
    Does being a Type-S affect typing feel to any noticeable degree?  I'm trying to figure out if the less "crisp" feeling I get from my HHKB Type-S vs the realforce is entirely due to plastic vs metal or if the silenced nature adds to that and I'd be happier with a normal HHKB.  And would swapping out to 55g domes help?  My thought is the greater initial resistance would lead to a more satisfying collapse and kind of simulate the feeling.

    55g domes will make it a little more snappy but it will never be quite as snappy as the Realforce. That being said, I think it's still definitely worth it.

    The only difference I noticed between the Type-S and regular HHKB was that the regular one was a little more smooth (I think this is because of the tighter fit between the sliders and the case on the type-s?). Otherwise the typing feel is very similar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:35:05
    Does someone have a picture for the following.

    1. Thick keycaps / Transparent switch cover / Reflective plate / Any LED color
    2. Thick keycaps / Black switch cover / Reflective plate / Any LED color

    I'm trying to decide if getting a transparent switch cover would make a difference given there is already a reflective plate, or the black switch cover would suffice given a reflective plate  is installed.

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:31:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 23:39:34
    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2MlgxNjAw/z/KxIAAOSwEppUTLf8/$_57.JPG)

    ?
    I saw those too. Soviet reed switches.

    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 12:41:29
    speaking of stabs, i only recently found out about clipping Cherry stabs so they feel like Costar but still retain the ability to quick swap modifiers. is this worth the effort?
    only if you bottom out.
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:34:59
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 29 October 2014, 08:33:31
    like this? :)
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/2444)


    The WEY boards, any financial keyboard will have a layout similar to that. There's a few Alps boards I've seen like that. And that looks like a POS board so do some hunting of Tipros and other POS keyboards.
    the tipro has a 1.5 stagger on the middle row instead of 1.25 or whatever. I don't know of other keyboards that do that.

    Quote from: jorgenslee on Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:35:05
    Does someone have a picture for the following.

    1. Thick keycaps / Transparent switch cover / Reflective plate / Any LED color
    2. Thick keycaps / Black switch cover / Reflective plate / Any LED color

    I'm trying to decide if getting a transparent switch cover would make a difference given there is already a reflective plate, or the black switch cover would suffice given a reflective plate  is installed.

    Thanks
    yeah I have that on my lightsaver and poker II pictures incoming. I don't see a difference.

    for thick keycaps, i have imsto PBT which let a lot of light through (ideal backlit keycaps, IMO) and cherry blank POM which let no light throught. Do you want me to put GMK or cherry doubleshots on it as well?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 29 October 2014, 15:06:21
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:35:05
    Does someone have a picture for the following.

    1. Thick keycaps / Transparent switch cover / Reflective plate / Any LED color
    2. Thick keycaps / Black switch cover / Reflective plate / Any LED color

    I'm trying to decide if getting a transparent switch cover would make a difference given there is already a reflective plate, or the black switch cover would suffice given a reflective plate  is installed.

    Thanks

    Shouldn't make too much of a difference, but when DV takes pictures you can't stop him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:30:20
    Is there anywhere I could get a 60% plate compatible with plate mount stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:02:27
    Quote from: wes1099 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:30:20
    Is there anywhere I could get a 60% plate compatible with plate mount stabilizers?
    I think I need a little clarification. By plate mount stabilizers, do you mean Cherry plate mount or Costar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:25:35
    Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:31:29
    yeah I have that on my lightsaver and poker II pictures incoming. I don't see a difference.

    for thick keycaps, i have imsto PBT which let a lot of light through (ideal backlit keycaps, IMO) and cherry blank POM which let no light throught. Do you want me to put GMK or cherry doubleshots on it as well?

    I think any thick keycap that wouldn't let light would suffice. What I plan to assemble is a Duck Viper and putting Dolch I get from Ivan.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:28:05
    Hmm, just thought about something.  Would having the keyboard sit on a mousepad instead of the desk mess with the feeling?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:30:48
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:28:05
    Hmm, just thought about something.  Would having the keyboard sit on a mousepad instead of the desk mess with the feeling?

    Not if it's super thick or soft. It could dampen the sound a bit though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:38:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:02:27
    Quote from: wes1099 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:30:20
    Is there anywhere I could get a 60% plate compatible with plate mount stabilizers?
    I think I need a little clarification. By plate mount stabilizers, do you mean Cherry plate mount or Costar?
    The kind that filco uses (I think Costar).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:41:00
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:38:59
    Quote from: wes1099 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:30:20
    Is there anywhere I could get a 60% plate compatible with plate mount stabilizers?
    The kind that filco uses (I think Costar).

    Filco uses Costar stabilizers. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any plates that are available and take Costar. Seems like most custom plates take Cherry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:48:02
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:28:05
    Would having the keyboard sit on a mousepad instead of the desk mess with the feeling?

    Aha! Someone else who needs one of my mats!

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59308.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:52:36
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:48:02
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:28:05
    Would having the keyboard sit on a mousepad instead of the desk mess with the feeling?

    Aha! Someone else who needs one of my mats!

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59308.0

    Hah, I actually don't want the keyboard on a pad, it's just that I bought a desk-sized pad because I use really low sensitivity in games and it gives more room (so the board being on top is a side-effect, not a goal).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:57:51
    Quote from: a_ak57 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:28:05
    Would having the keyboard sit on a mousepad instead of the desk mess with the feeling?

    I think the mousepads and mats change the feeling in subtle ways.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 30 October 2014, 15:00:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:41:00
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:38:59
    Quote from: wes1099 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:30:20
    Is there anywhere I could get a 60% plate compatible with plate mount stabilizers?
    The kind that filco uses (I think Costar).

    Filco uses Costar stabilizers. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any plates that are available and take Costar. Seems like most custom plates take Cherry.

    A lot of them will take both.  I think most of JD's designs take both (though he can confirm or deny), and I believe the GH60 plates take both.  The ability and drawing template should be out there somewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 15:07:41
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 30 October 2014, 15:00:15
    A lot of them will take both.  I think most of JD's designs take both (though he can confirm or deny), and I believe the GH60 plates take both.  The ability and drawing template should be out there somewhere.

    If I recall correctly, they need a subtle cutout within the Cherry stabilizer slot in order to snap in. JD has a design that has that cutout but I cannot remember which exact plates have them and which don't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 30 October 2014, 15:09:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 15:07:41
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 30 October 2014, 15:00:15
    A lot of them will take both.  I think most of JD's designs take both (though he can confirm or deny), and I believe the GH60 plates take both.  The ability and drawing template should be out there somewhere.

    1. If I recall correctly, they need a subtle cutout within the Cherry stabilizer slot in order to snap in.
    2. JD has a design that has that cutout but I cannot remember which exact plates have them and which don't.

    1. That is true.
    2. I think the JD40 does, and I think most of his other designs do. (can confirm later if he doesn't comment by then)

    JD, we need you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:00:24
    Has anyone made any CAD designs for converting Alps switches to MX stems (i.e. use MX keycaps on Alps switches)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:03:36
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:00:24
    Has anyone made any CAD designs for converting Alps switches to MX stems (i.e. use MX keycaps on Alps switches)?

    Yes: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/cherry-to-alps-adapters-t4934.html
    They didn't work so well iirc though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blueleorio on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:08:32
    Which brand offer these keyboards with 75% , backlit, and Cherry mx?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:22:54
    Quote from: blueleorio on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:08:32
    Which brand offer these keyboards with 75% , backlit, and Cherry mx?

    Don't think there's a stock board that fits this description besides the TG3 BL82. The cop car keyboards with and without the touch pads. Think they're also called Data 911 boards.

    Mine is a TG3-BL82 (75% with MX Blacks and splashguard) with red backlighting. Mine was used. Don't think you can find a NIB one easily.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 30 October 2014, 19:08:02
    Quote from: blueleorio on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:08:32
    Which brand offer these keyboards with 75% , backlit, and Cherry mx?

    KBT Race II's - (We have one NIB White Case Imperfect Pink Keycap White LED Race I, Blue Cherry MX. PM if interested.)
    Keycool 84's

    Just to name a few...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 30 October 2014, 19:37:34
    Any ideas where I can get pcb mount cherry stabs for 2unit?  Digikey and mouser are out.  I also ordered the last two from OC but I need some more.  The only other place I see them is Gon but thats for ~$27 shipping for $13 worth of stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 October 2014, 21:04:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 30 October 2014, 19:37:34
    Any ideas where I can get pcb mount cherry stabs for 2unit?  Digikey and mouser are out.  I also ordered the last two from OC but I need some more.  The only other place I see them is Gon but thats for ~$27 shipping for $13 worth of stuff.

    I'm sure someone bought extra from ivan's group buy.  Maybe techkeys will have some?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 30 October 2014, 21:10:34
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 October 2014, 21:04:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 30 October 2014, 19:37:34
    Any ideas where I can get pcb mount cherry stabs for 2unit?  Digikey and mouser are out.  I also ordered the last two from OC but I need some more.  The only other place I see them is Gon but thats for ~$27 shipping for $13 worth of stuff.

    I'm sure someone bought extra from ivan's group buy.  Maybe techkeys will have some?

    Techkeys did buy some.  However, I did find some.  I found a site with 118 in stock then I ordered 13. 

    http://parts.arrow.com/item/detail/cherry/g990742#JJF2 was where I found them.  They have 105 left according to the site as I am posting this.

    They do appear to have a US based warehouse by the $4.05 standard mail shipping cost.  Sure beats almost $27 shipping from Gon.  Nothing bad about his stock, just international shipping for some stabs is a bit steep.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 21:15:06
    Quote from: 00zeRO on Thu, 30 October 2014, 19:08:02
    Quote from: blueleorio on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:08:32
    Which brand offer these keyboards with 75% , backlit, and Cherry mx?

    KBT Race II's - (We have one NIB White Case Imperfect Pink Keycap White LED Race I, Blue Cherry MX. PM if interested.)
    Keycool 84's

    Just to name a few...

    I didn't realize the race had them. What else can you think of? Also, I would really appreciate it if you didn't conduct any sales in this thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:20:52
    Are Apple Extended II boards worth much? Found one that I can get for about $20 but it is really yellow so it will need a nice round of peroxide bathing. I don't know which Alps it has.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:28:04
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:20:52
    Are Apple Extended II boards worth much? Found one that I can get for about $20 but it is really yellow so it will need a nice round of peroxide bathing. I don't know which Alps it has.

    From what I have seen here, and the one I bought, the majority have dampened cream alps.  Though I believe some have been spotted with orange or salmon alps.  Keep in mind that the F row keys have the stem and switch rotated 90°.  Just something to keep in mind if you are looking to harvest caps for another board or a custom project. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:37:00
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:20:52
    Are Apple Extended II boards worth much? Found one that I can get for about $20 but it is really yellow so it will need a nice round of peroxide bathing. I don't know which Alps it has.
    I think that's a good price for the board. They're solid boards to use of you convert them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:48:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:37:00
    I think that's a good price for the board. They're solid boards to use of you convert them.

    I already have too many boards as it is so I'd basically just be buying it to resell, but if it isn't worth much more than that I'm not too worried about it. It's only $6.99 but then $10.17 shipping on top of that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:53:35
    Quote from: Blaise170 link=topic=40501.msg1520700#msg

    I'd basically just be buying it to resell

    That's definitely not a board to flip then. AEK IIs are relatively easy to find and are cheap in general.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:54:44
    Alright, thanks for the help CPT.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Fri, 31 October 2014, 00:53:59
    Check if Ivan has extras from his GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 31 October 2014, 07:28:03
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 22:48:55
    I already have too many boards as it is so I'd basically just be buying it to resell, but if it isn't worth much more than that I'm not too worried about it. It's only $6.99 but then $10.17 shipping on top of that.

    You can easily sell a clean working one in the $30-35 shipped range.

    I have had mediocre results, at best, Retro-briting Apple gear, and it is not quick or easy.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Fri, 31 October 2014, 17:16:19
    Anywhere that I can buy 45g and 62g springs apart from originative? (sold out)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 31 October 2014, 17:23:37
    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0

    or classifieds
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:06:04
    anything noteworthy to keep in mind when buying used springs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:16:50
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:06:04
    anything noteworthy to keep in mind when buying used springs?

    not that i can think of

    they won't be the same as stock i guess?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:24:35
    i'm mainly curious about whether they wear out, and whether you need to reapply lube if it has been lubed previously
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:31:01
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:24:35
    i'm mainly curious about whether they wear out, and whether you need to reapply lube if it has been lubed previously

    I don't think so.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:39:26
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:24:35
    i'm mainly curious about whether they wear out, and whether you need to reapply lube if it has been lubed previously

    they wear and you can tell, but they don't die at all

    i don't think so?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:45:51
    thanks gentlemen
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:46:04
    Is there any way to buy the RGB Cherry switches by themselves? (aka fully clear housing cherry switches)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:47:15
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:46:04
    Is there any way to buy the RGB Cherry switches by themselves? (aka fully clear housing cherry switches)
    I know 7bit has em for order. Dunno who else has em though... Yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:48:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:47:15
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:46:04
    Is there any way to buy the RGB Cherry switches by themselves? (aka fully clear housing cherry switches)
    I know 7bit has em for order. Dunno who else has em though... Yet.
    Oooooo~ order meaning group buy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:51:03
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:48:08
    Oooooo~ order meaning group buy?

    He's got this perpetual order thread on DT you can order from.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:53:19
    Oh, okay thank you, I'll look into it!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:14:08
    What is the cheapest possible board I can get with MX Greens? I want TKL or full size. Don't care about media keys, backlighting, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:16:07


    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:14:08
    What is the cheapest possible board I can get with MX Greens? I want TKL or full size. Don't care about media keys, backlighting, etc.

    If CM Storm still makes boards with greens, that'll be the cheapest non customized route. Forget the name of the CM full-size but I know at one point, you could get a Qfr with greens for around $80.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:08:02
    what alt/ctrl shortcut often used? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:08:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:16:07


    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:14:08
    What is the cheapest possible board I can get with MX Greens? I want TKL or full size. Don't care about media keys, backlighting, etc.

    If CM Storm still makes boards with greens, that'll be the cheapest non customized route. Forget the name of the CM full-size but I know at one point, you could get a Qfr with greens for around $80.

    The full size would be the CM XT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:46:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:08:02
    what alt/ctrl shortcut often used? :)
    Ctrl alt delete
    Alt tab

    Those are the first two shortcuts to come to mind that use either one of those keys.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:08:30
    The full size would be the CM XT.

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:51:19
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:08:02
    what alt/ctrl shortcut often used? :)

    Control/Alt is the default setup for shortcuts.

    If you right-click on a desktop icon and click "properties" then you can enter a single character in the "shortcut key" blank and it will automatically assume that "Control + Alt +" is the first part.

    A lot of people use the first letter from there: W = Word, E = Excel, E = email, G = Geekhack etc

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:51:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:46:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:08:02
    what alt/ctrl shortcut often used? :)
    Ctrl alt delete
    Alt tab

    Those are the first two shortcuts to come to mind that use either one of those keys.

    ctrl+shift+esc is the one I use the most.

    And no ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x, ctrl+z, ctrl+a love?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:54:01
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:51:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:46:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:08:02
    what alt/ctrl shortcut often used? :)
    Ctrl alt delete
    Alt tab

    Those are the first two shortcuts to come to mind that use either one of those keys.

    ctrl+shift+esc is the one I use the most.

    And no ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x, ctrl+z, ctrl+a love?

    OP asked about Control/Alt

    In the old days, "power-users" often preferred keyboard shortcuts to mousing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:54:48
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:51:19
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:08:02
    what alt/ctrl shortcut often used? :)

    Control/Alt is the default setup for shortcuts.

    If you right-click on a desktop icon and click "properties" then you can enter a single character in the "shortcut key" blank and it will automatically assume that "Control + Alt +" is the first part.

    A lot of people use the first letter from there: W = Word, E = Excel, E = email, G = Geekhack etc

    Oh cool! Thanks for teaching me that Fohat.digs.

    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:51:43
    ctrl+shift+esc is the one I use the most.

    And no ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x, ctrl+z, ctrl+a love?

    Ugh, of course those are useful and I use them a ton. I also just woke up...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:55:57
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:54:01
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:51:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:46:01
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:08:02
    what alt/ctrl shortcut often used? :)
    Ctrl alt delete
    Alt tab

    Those are the first two shortcuts to come to mind that use either one of those keys.


    ctrl+shift+esc is the one I use the most.

    And no ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x, ctrl+z, ctrl+a love?

    OP asked about Control/Alt

    In the old days, "power-users" often preferred keyboard shortcuts to mousing.

    When I used to work in excel a lot, I almost never used a mouse. All shortcuts and fn keys
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:56:42
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:51:43
    Ctrl alt delete
    Alt tab


    ctrl+shift+esc is the one I use the most.

    And no ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x, ctrl+z, ctrl+a love?

    I have to use Ctrl+Esc for Winkey since my board doesn't have them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:00:27
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:56:42
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:51:43
    Ctrl alt delete
    Alt tab


    ctrl+shift+esc is the one I use the most.

    And no ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x, ctrl+z, ctrl+a love?

    I have to use Ctrl+Esc for Winkey since my board doesn't have them.

    Winkey is so useful .  It's hard for me to not have it.  Win+d, win+1 through 9, and so on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:05:06
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:00:27
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:56:42
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:51:43
    Ctrl alt delete
    Alt tab


    ctrl+shift+esc is the one I use the most.

    And no ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x, ctrl+z, ctrl+a love?

    I have to use Ctrl+Esc for Winkey since my board doesn't have them.

    Winkey is so useful .  It's hard for me to not have it.  Win+d, win+1 through 9, and so on.

    Same here, I use Win+e and Win+l all the time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:26:52
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 01 November 2014, 09:56:42
    I have to use Ctrl+Esc for Winkey since my board doesn't have them.

    With left function buttons, I set F10 to be Windows, it is almost in the right place anyway.

    F7 is a good candidate to utilize, I never have any use for it otherwise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 01 November 2014, 11:23:11
    I thought I remember seeing a mention of replacement G80-3000 PCBs. Anyone have the details on those? I want to build up another custom KB and TKL is so last year.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 November 2014, 11:25:05
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 01 November 2014, 11:23:11
    I thought I remember seeing a mention of replacement G80-3000 PCBs. Anyone have the details on those? I want to build up another custom KB and TKL is so last year.

    I wish we could get some of those. Or do our own :o

    What I would like is a slimmer G80-3000 case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 11:55:52
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 01 November 2014, 11:23:11
    I thought I remember seeing a mention of replacement G80-3000 PCBs. Anyone have the details on those? I want to build up another custom KB and TKL is so last year.

    Photekq would know a little more about this than I do but if I recall correctly, the person in China who was going to make these (perhaps Leeku?) is busy and isn't running the buy anytime soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:01:31
    I've been trying to reach LONGZILLA but haven't gotten a reply yet :P

    I was wondering if anyone happens to know or recognize what type of LEDs are these, and what colour? I can't tell if they're red or orange  :(

    (http://longzilla.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/orange_v02.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:04:19
    Quote from: Karura on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:01:31
    I've been trying to reach LONGZILLA but haven't gotten a reply yet :P

    I was wondering if anyone happens to know or recognize what type of LEDs are these, and what colour? I can't tell if they're red or orange  :(

    Show Image
    (http://longzilla.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/orange_v02.jpg)


    They look orange and Longzilla loves orange. Conclusion? They're orange :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:09:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:04:19
    Quote from: Karura on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:01:31
    I've been trying to reach LONGZILLA but haven't gotten a reply yet :P

    I was wondering if anyone happens to know or recognize what type of LEDs are these, and what colour? I can't tell if they're red or orange  :(

    Show Image
    (http://longzilla.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/orange_v02.jpg)


    They look orange and Longzilla loves orange. Conclusion? They're orange :).

    Hmm, then do you know wehre I can find them? I can't tell at all, also I thought Cherry MX switch LEDs were always mounted below the stem. I have lots to learn :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:21:04
    Quote from: Karura on Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:09:02
    also I thought Cherry MX switch LEDs were always mounted below the stem. I have lots to learn :P

    They are!  And some boards have rotated switches, so the LEDs go "above" the switches.  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wonko73 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 05:28:30
    Where do I find the " < > " keys and the " # " on a HHKB2 with German Mac-Layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 02 November 2014, 06:29:26
    Quote from: Wonko73 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 05:28:30
    Where do I find the " < > " keys and the " # " on a HHKB2 with German Mac-Layout?

    Since they're on a seperate key which ANSI layouts don't have, you might have to use something like Autohotkey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DasHHKBProM on Sun, 02 November 2014, 06:44:16
    http://www.keyboardlover.com/img/switches/Topre_Switch3.jpg

    Anyone know what color keycap this is?
     I've searched google and had little success.
     Best I can come up with pastel pink..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Sun, 02 November 2014, 06:54:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:05:06
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:00:27
    Winkey is so useful .  It's hard for me to not have it.  Win+d, win+1 through 9, and so on.

    Same here, I use Win+e and Win+l all the time.

    True story. My top 3 are Win+d, Win+e, Win+r. Very useful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 November 2014, 10:02:39
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Sun, 02 November 2014, 06:44:16
    http://www.keyboardlover.com/img/switches/Topre_Switch3.jpg

    Anyone know what color keycap this is?
     I've searched google and had little success.
     Best I can come up with pastel pink..

    Just compared with my RF. They're the same. The color is called "sakura" as in cherry blossom.

    It's more commonly known in English just as pink.  If you buy pink RF caps you'll get this color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wonko73 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:33:33
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 02 November 2014, 06:29:26
    Quote from: Wonko73 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 05:28:30
    Where do I find the " < > " keys and the " # " on a HHKB2 with German Mac-Layout?

    Since they're on a seperate key which ANSI layouts don't have, you might have to use something like Autohotkey.

    Found the " x " in German Mac-layout: upper row, second key from the right (means: key right from the 0 ).

    Still no good solution for the ">" and "<" ... but I'd like to find a solution because I often need this keys in Terminal. "Auto-Korrekt" function or custom shortkeys don't work in Terminal using Yosemite ... any further ideas on this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:39:26
    Quote from: Wonko73 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:33:33
    Found the " x " in German Mac-layout: upper row, second key from the right (means: key right from the 0 ).

    Still no good solution for the ">" and "<" ... but I'd like to find a solution because I often need this keys in Terminal. "Auto-Korrekt" function or custom shortkeys don't work in Terminal using Yosemite ... any further ideas on this?

    You could get a custom controller for your HHKB which will let you 100% customize your layout. Maybe there's some other 3rd party program for Mac that would work in the terminal as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:40:08
    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:39:26
    Maybe there's some other 3rd party program for Mac that would work in the terminal as well.

    One exists, I forget the name of it though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wonko73 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 12:24:12
    Found a solution that might work for a while: An app from the Mac App Store called "Alpha". This works in terminal, too … I set two shortcuts: "- y " for "< " and " y - " for "<".

    I'm wondering what people do, that work with unix / linux in Germany using the HHKB2 when they need " > " and " < "…
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DasHHKBProM on Sun, 02 November 2014, 12:26:53
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 02 November 2014, 10:02:39
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Sun, 02 November 2014, 06:44:16
    http://www.keyboardlover.com/img/switches/Topre_Switch3.jpg

    Anyone know what color keycap this is?
     I've searched google and had little success.
     Best I can come up with pastel pink..

    Just compared with my RF. They're the same. The color is called "sakura" as in cherry blossom.

    It's more commonly known in English just as pink.  If you buy pink RF caps you'll get this color.

    Tacticlestache these are same :(???

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1177354#msg1177354
    http://www.keyboardlover.com/img/switches/Topre_Switch3.jpg

    So maybe it's just the lighting...I was hoping to find a set closer to maroon/brown than pink
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 November 2014, 12:29:08
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Sun, 02 November 2014, 12:26:53
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 02 November 2014, 10:02:39
    Quote from: DasHHKBProM on Sun, 02 November 2014, 06:44:16
    http://www.keyboardlover.com/img/switches/Topre_Switch3.jpg

    Anyone know what color keycap this is?
     I've searched google and had little success.
     Best I can come up with pastel pink..

    Just compared with my RF. They're the same. The color is called "sakura" as in cherry blossom.

    It's more commonly known in English just as pink.  If you buy pink RF caps you'll get this color.

    Tacticlestache these are same :(???

    http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1177354#msg1177354
    http://www.keyboardlover.com/img/switches/Topre_Switch3.jpg

    So maybe it's just the lighting...I was hoping to find a set closer to maroon/brown than pink

    You could dye a white set if you really want.

    Bother nubbinator, he just dyed some keys and they look fire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 02 November 2014, 12:32:00
    Quote from: Wonko73 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 12:24:12
    Found a solution that might work for a while: An app from the Mac App Store called "Alpha". This works in terminal, too … I set two shortcuts: "- y " for "< " and " y - " for "<".

    I'm wondering what people do, that work with unix / linux in Germany using the HHKB2 when they need " > " and " < "…

    Could imagine them using US ANSI international which has öüä etc. on the Alt Gr layer iirc. Maybe ask Snoopy, he's german and uses a HHKB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:04:58
    What is the closest RAL (or pantone) to IBM industrial green/grey? I don't have any IBM industrial stuff to compare with.

    Is it more like 7033 or 7023 maybe? 7042? 1020 even? I just can't decide based on photos of IBM industrials I see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:08:41
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:04:58
    What is the closest RAL (or pantone) to IBM industrial green/grey? I don't have any IBM industrial stuff to compare with.

    Is it more like 7033 or 7023 maybe? 7042? 1020 even? I just can't decide based on photos of IBM industrials I see.

    I think you posted in the wrong thread.  The questions are supposed to be simple.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:14:02
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:08:41
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:04:58
    What is the closest RAL (or pantone) to IBM industrial green/grey? I don't have any IBM industrial stuff to compare with.

    Is it more like 7033 or 7023 maybe? 7042? 1020 even? I just can't decide based on photos of IBM industrials I see.

    I think you posted in the wrong thread.  The questions are supposed to be simple.

    Well, it doesn't warrant its own topic, so he's still technically in the right place.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:16:20
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:04:58
    What is the closest RAL (or pantone) to IBM industrial green/grey? I don't have any IBM industrial stuff to compare with.

    Is it more like 7033 or 7023 maybe? 7042? 1020 even? I just can't decide based on photos of IBM industrials I see.

    I dunno what Pantone it would be and if you're going to get a board done in the industrial grey color, you'll probably need Pantone. I suggest PMing krogenar for more help but I believe that it is RAL 7030 "Stonegrey". Webwit and rindorbrot seem to think that it is a closer match for industrial grey (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/kishsaver-photothread-t7483.html#p148314). And I agree with the pictures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wonko73 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 10:23:03
    Hi!

    Yersterday I asked how to get "#" and "<>" on a HHKB2 with German Mac Layout … Well - sometimes I am sooooo stupid - lets tell you about how I found it:

    Today my HHKB2 didn't work as usual … I wrote, that the "#" was on the key right from the "0" … today it wasn't. So I went to system settings and reconfigured the keyboard.… and I clicked a bit to fast and configured it as ANSI Layout.

    That`s what I should have done earlier! Everything works fine... I have a Mac Layout, German Keys and the "#" is right from the "0" … and now the surprise: The next key, means the very right key in the front row makes the ">" "<". Great, isn't it?

    I am much more happy with my Happy Hacking Keyboard now!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 03 November 2014, 12:28:18
    I'm looking to lube mx brown switches.  I've found these lubes online:

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=61
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc

    What are recommended buys for mx browns?  Do I need different lubes for different parts of the switch?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 November 2014, 14:20:13
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 03 November 2014, 12:28:18
    I'm looking to lube mx brown switches.  I've found these lubes online:

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=61
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc

    What are recommended buys for mx browns?  Do I need different lubes for different parts of the switch?

    I'd get the Krytox kit from mechanicalkeyboards.com which is from mkawa. There's some info scattered around the forum on that. Krytox is used on the housing/stem. I think people use oil used to lubricate multitools on the springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:13:31
    I'm planning on getting the Varmilo off Massdrop, but I need some help choosing the right switch for me. I really like the clicky switches, but Blues seem too light and Greens might be too heavy for me (tried them out today and really liked them but I'm afraid they might be fatiguing in the long term). Clears are about right but don't have the click. Anyone have a suggestion for me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:16:37
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:13:31
    I'm planning on getting the Varmilo off Massdrop, but I need some help choosing the right switch for me. I really like the clicky switches, but Blues seem too light and Greens might be too heavy for me (tried them out today and really liked them but I'm afraid they might be fatiguing in the long term). Clears are about right but don't have the click. Anyone have a suggestion for me?

    Get a Green board. If it's too heavy for you, modify it with lighter switches such as 67g or 65g. It's not as easy as here is a magical switch for you, unfortunately, as you'll have to determine your own likes and dislikes in switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:54:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:16:37
    Get a Green board. If it's too heavy for you, modify it with lighter switches such as 67g or 65g. It's not as easy as here is a magical switch for you, unfortunately, as you'll have to determine your own likes and dislikes in switches.

    That's kind of what I was thinking but wanted some other opinions. Thanks CPT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:56:11
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:54:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:16:37
    Get a Green board. If it's too heavy for you, modify it with lighter switches such as 67g or 65g. It's not as easy as here is a magical switch for you, unfortunately, as you'll have to determine your own likes and dislikes in switches.

    That's kind of what I was thinking but wanted some other opinions. Thanks CPT.

    On the bright side? Since you're stateside, there's a few people who can do the modding for you if you don't yet feel confident in doing so yourself. tjcaustin, dorkvader, LastPilot, and (maybe) Hoffmanmyster provide modding services in the USA.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 17:26:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:56:11
    On the bright side? Since you're stateside, there's a few people who can do the modding for you if you don't yet feel confident in doing so yourself. tjcaustin, dorkvader, LastPilot, and (maybe) Hoffmanmyster provide modding services in the USA.

    I'm not sure how other boards work but on my Cherry keyboard the housing pops right off so modding won't be a problem if it's like that for most other switches. I've basically got my decision set between Greens and Whites now, but I'm not sure which to choose. Do you know if there is really a big difference for them other than sound?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 03 November 2014, 17:39:06
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 17:26:37
    1) I'm not sure how other boards work but on my Cherry keyboard the housing pops right off so modding won't be a problem if it's like that for most other switches.

    I've basically got my decision set between Greens and Whites now, but I'm not sure which to choose. Do you know if there is really a big difference for them other than sound?

    1) Most likely, the board you're looking at has a plate and will need to be desoldered/soldered.
    2) Whites have a softer, muted click versus the Greens. I like them both equally and have boards with both switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 03 November 2014, 22:52:31
    About 3D printing
    the object out of print space
    so can't print
    what mean? :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 November 2014, 05:02:15
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 03 November 2014, 22:52:31
    About 3D printing
    the object out of print space
    so can't print
    what mean? :-X
    Means your part is larger than the surface area that the printer can cover. All 3D printers have a min and max size for parts it can print.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 04 November 2014, 20:24:27
    What is SoWaRe? Is it a color scheme?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trizkut on Tue, 04 November 2014, 20:27:55
    Quote from: 00zeRO on Tue, 04 November 2014, 20:24:27
    What is SoWaRe? Is it a color scheme?

    http://keypuller.com/soware/

    Quote
    The origin of the name is uncertain, it is said to be coming from “I’m SOrry it’s WYse REplica”, SO-WY-RE that is pronounced So-Wah-Reh.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 04 November 2014, 20:40:52
    Quote from: trizkut on Tue, 04 November 2014, 20:27:55
    Quote from: 00zeRO on Tue, 04 November 2014, 20:24:27
    What is SoWaRe? Is it a color scheme?

    http://keypuller.com/soware/

    Quote
    The origin of the name is uncertain, it is said to be coming from “I’m SOrry it’s WYse REplica”, SO-WY-RE that is pronounced So-Wah-Reh.

    I've never heard that version.  :P  The (AFAIK) true story is:

    Quote from: zenuty on Tue, 05 March 2013, 18:07:35
    Soware's Full name is Sora Wyse Replica,
    Sora is Sky Blue means, but it is not korean language, Japaness languge SORA(Sky)

    More info here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49524.0#post_SoWaRe).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Wed, 05 November 2014, 02:01:25
    Unicomp just told me that they cannot print custom key caps. This is after they have already filled my request for a Copy, Cut, Paste and Undo key set. Are they telling me lies?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 06:36:07
    Quote from: fanpeople on Wed, 05 November 2014, 02:01:25
    Unicomp just told me that they cannot print custom key caps. This is after they have already filled my request for a Copy, Cut, Paste and Undo key set. Are they telling me lies?
    I think by custom they mean they won't make you a cap that says "orange" on it. They'll make you caps with what molding and stock they do have. So no custom legends.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:34:17
    I've seen pictures of a collection of sample GMK keycaps with holes drilled through them, stored on a thin wire hoop.

    Can these be purchased anywhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zeal on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:35:55
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:34:17
    I've seen pictures of a collection of sample GMK keycaps with holes drilled through them, stored on a thin wire hoop.

    Can these be purchased anywhere?

    Not really, unless someone sells off their GMK colour ring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:36:38
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:34:17
    I've seen pictures of a collection of sample GMK keycaps with holes drilled through them, stored on a thin wire hoop.

    Can these be purchased anywhere?
    That is GMKs colour ring, which they will give out to people who are _seriously_ interested in ordering keycaps from them [I stress seriously because, at the end of the day, they're a business. Don't ask for one unless you plan to order from them].
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:36:44
    Quote from: Zeal on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:35:55
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:34:17
    I've seen pictures of a collection of sample GMK keycaps with holes drilled through them, stored on a thin wire hoop.

    Can these be purchased anywhere?

    Not really, unless someone sells off their GMK colour ring.

    Where did people (who may or may not sell theirs) get them from in the first place?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 16:41:41
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:36:44
    Quote from: Zeal on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:35:55
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:34:17
    I've seen pictures of a collection of sample GMK keycaps with holes drilled through them, stored on a thin wire hoop.

    Can these be purchased anywhere?

    Not really, unless someone sells off their GMK colour ring.

    Where did people (who may or may not sell theirs) get them from in the first place?

    IIRC we're just shipping Ivan's around.

    I think Photekq has one too, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 November 2014, 16:46:28
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:36:44
    Quote from: Zeal on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:35:55
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:34:17
    I've seen pictures of a collection of sample GMK keycaps with holes drilled through them, stored on a thin wire hoop.

    Can these be purchased anywhere?

    Not really, unless someone sells off their GMK colour ring.
    Where did people (who may or may not sell theirs) get them from in the first place?
    Read above you..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:07:18
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 05 November 2014, 16:46:28
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:36:44
    Quote from: Zeal on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:35:55
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 15:34:17
    I've seen pictures of a collection of sample GMK keycaps with holes drilled through them, stored on a thin wire hoop.

    Can these be purchased anywhere?

    Not really, unless someone sells off their GMK colour ring.
    Where did people (who may or may not sell theirs) get them from in the first place?
    Read above you..

    LOL you replied while I was still typing my reply, and I didn't see yours as mine appeared at the top of the page.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:11:18
    If I were to purchase a NerD60 PCB from GON and a plate (probably the GON universal plate) what kind of switches will I need? PCB mounted or Plate-mounted?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:12:23
    Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:11:18
    If I were to purchase a NerD60 PCB from GON and a plate (probably the GON universal plate) what kind of switches will I need? PCB mounted or Plate-mounted?

    Plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:13:20
    Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:11:18
    If I were to purchase a NerD60 PCB from GON and a plate (probably the GON universal plate) what kind of switches will I need? PCB mounted or Plate-mounted?
    Either. PCB supports both.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:14:14
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:13:20
    Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:11:18
    If I were to purchase a NerD60 PCB from GON and a plate (probably the GON universal plate) what kind of switches will I need? PCB mounted or Plate-mounted?
    Either. PCB supports both.

    I thought the 2.0 version didn't have PCB mount support anymore?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:14:43
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:12:23
    Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:11:18
    If I were to purchase a NerD60 PCB from GON and a plate (probably the GON universal plate) what kind of switches will I need? PCB mounted or Plate-mounted?

    Plate.

    You could go with PCB or plate mounted. His PCB's have holes in them to accept the PCB mounted switches. Given the choice and this feature, I suggest PCB mounted for maximum stability.

    (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/191-thickbox_default/nerd-mobik-pcb-by-gon.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:14:55
    Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:13:20
    Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:11:18
    If I were to purchase a NerD60 PCB from GON and a plate (probably the GON universal plate) what kind of switches will I need? PCB mounted or Plate-mounted?
    Either. PCB supports both.

    Thanks for the replies.
    So does this mean that the PCB mounted switches will be compatible with the Plate from GON as well?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:15:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:14:43
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:12:23
    Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:11:18
    If I were to purchase a NerD60 PCB from GON and a plate (probably the GON universal plate) what kind of switches will I need? PCB mounted or Plate-mounted?

    Plate.

    You could go with PCB or plate mounted. His PCB's have holes in them to accept the PCB mounted switches. Given the choice and this feature, I suggest PCB mounted for maximum stability.

    Show Image
    (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/191-thickbox_default/nerd-mobik-pcb-by-gon.jpg)


    Just looked.

    I was misinformed, my bad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:16:04
    Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 05 November 2014, 17:14:55
    1) Will PCB mounted switches be compatible with the Universal plate?

    2) And if so, is there any advantage to using one or the other?

    1) Yes
    2) PCB mounted switches have two extra legs which extend into the PCB holes. I think it adds stability to the board and the typing experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:36:48
    Two questions about the Leeku 1800 PCB:

    1) Is this the only firmware or is there an updated one (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.msg1176402#msg1176402)?

    2) Does the firmware support a MX Lock switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:50:25
    I'm pretty sure that's the updated firmware. Unless there's a newer version.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:51:27

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:50:25
    I'm pretty sure that's the updated firmware. Unless there's a newer version.

    "The homework is really easy once you figure it out."
    Yes, thank you.  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:52:47
    i thought i typed something else

    "That should be the newest version unless you know of a newer one"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flamingchook on Wed, 05 November 2014, 20:19:42
    Is there a beginners guide to ALPs keyboards somewhere? I want to try them out but I don't really know where to start.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 20:21:31
    Quote from: Flamingchook on Wed, 05 November 2014, 20:19:42
    Is there a beginners guide to ALPs keyboards somewhere? I want to try them out but I don't really know where to start.

    There isn't one besides the DT Wiki. Seems like ripster managed to save his old Wiki page on them from before r00tw0rm. It looks like it's a decent intro guide (http://web.archive.org/web/20101117203334/http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=ALPS+switches#Switches+that+LOOK+like+ALPS). But I also know a fair amount about Alps switches, how can I help you?

    Also check out my threads:

    Older Mr Interface Switch Try Bag Review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Alps)
    Thoughts on MX vs Alps (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60288.0)
    Kingsaver with Complicated Blue Alps (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58776.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flamingchook on Wed, 05 November 2014, 20:47:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 20:21:31
    There isn't one besides the DT Wiki. Seems like ripster managed to save his old Wiki page on them from before r00tw0rm. It looks like it's a decent intro guide (http://web.archive.org/web/20101117203334/http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=ALPS+switches#Switches+that+LOOK+like+ALPS). But how can I help you?

    I'd been having a look at the DT wiki but that ripster article looks like a good resource. Thanks! I've just been a bit confused by the multitude of different types.

    From what I can gather I think I want complicated blue switches but they also seem to be super rare. I'll probably just go for a keyboard with Matias click switches like an Infinity or something for my first foray into alps/clones I think. I've got a line on an Apple Extended Keyboard II with what look like dampened tactile switches so I'll probably pick that up too. I guess I won't really know what I like until I try them.

    Thanks for finding that article for me :)

    Edit:

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 20:21:31
    Also check out my threads:

    Older Mr Interface Switch Try Bag Review (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41117.0#post_Alps)
    Thoughts on MX vs Alps (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60288.0)
    Kingsaver with Complicated Blue Alps (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58776.0)

    These look really helpful too. Thanks again!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:21:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:36:48
    2) Does the firmware support a MX Lock switch?
    is MX Lock need firmware? i think just lock like press as usual
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:22:47
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:21:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:36:48
    2) Does the firmware support a MX Lock switch?
    is MX Lock need firmware? i think just lock like press as usual

    You would need to set it up as a shift if you want to use an MX Lock and have it work properly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 04:56:38
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:22:47
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:21:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:36:48
    2) Does the firmware support a MX Lock switch?
    is MX Lock need firmware? i think just lock like press as usual

    You would need to set it up as a shift if you want to use an MX Lock and have it work properly.
    Can't tell if trolling... I'd like to use the MX lock as a function layer on the 1800 for giggles. It was my understanding that the lock switch would need firmware support in order to do so. Think metalliqaz told me that? I probably should've been more specific.
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:50:25
    I'm pretty sure that's the updated firmware. Unless there's a newer version.
    Thank you...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 06 November 2014, 05:00:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:36:48
    Two questions about the Leeku 1800 PCB:

    1) Is this the only firmware or is there an updated one (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.msg1176402#msg1176402)?

    2) Does the firmware support a MX Lock switch?
    I'm not sure if there is newer firmware, but if there is you'll find it on kbdmania.

    You don't need the firmware to support a lock switch. The MX lock acts like a regular MX switch that is being held down. You would need firmware if you wanted to use the MX lock as a toggle-able caps lock though, but that's it. Whether the Leeku supports a function layer is another question..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 05:04:37


    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 06 November 2014, 05:00:31
    You would need firmware if you wanted to use the MX lock as a toggle-able caps lock though, but that's it. Whether the Leeku supports a function layer is another question..

    Yeah that's what I wanted it for. Should've stated that. And I probably won't do it but I was curious.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Prelim on Thu, 06 November 2014, 06:35:21
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 August 2014, 19:21:07
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Tue, 05 August 2014, 18:55:10
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:54:44
    Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 05 August 2014, 11:43:48
    If they're yellowed you can try retrobright, not sure what kind of effect it would have on the black plastic though.

    yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Retrobright's effect on black plastic.

    Hopefully it doesn't act like bleach and black shirts.

    That might turn into a new thing though. Surely someone would like it.

    Hi guys,

    just found this old post, as I was thinking on doing a retrobright in WoB also... anyone knows if there would be any problem with the black color?! Doesn't make much sense as I've done retrobright in classic beige doubleshots and the black lettering remained perfect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 06:37:40
    Quote from: Prelim on Thu, 06 November 2014, 06:35:21
    anyone knows if there would be any problem with the black color?! Doesn't make much sense as I've done retrobright in classic beige doubleshots and the black lettering remained perfect.

    A quick Google search yields this page on the retr0bright website (http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/Problems+and+Pitfalls). Scroll down to #4.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 06 November 2014, 08:58:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 04:56:38
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:22:47
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:21:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:36:48
    2) Does the firmware support a MX Lock switch?
    is MX Lock need firmware? i think just lock like press as usual

    You would need to set it up as a shift if you want to use an MX Lock and have it work properly.
    Can't tell if trolling... I'd like to use the MX lock as a function layer on the 1800 for giggles. It was my understanding that the lock switch would need firmware support in order to do so. Think metalliqaz told me that? I probably should've been more specific.

    If you want it to behave as a Caps Lock, you need to assign the Caps Lock switch to be a Shift key.  Yes, I know that Caps Lock doesn't toggle !@#$ on the number row and Shift does, but since, as Photekq stated, MX Locks basically hold the key down.  In order to get the Caps lock functionality, you'd need to set up the switch as a Shift, making it a Shift Lock.  Otherwise, you would need firmware that only acknowledged the initial toggle and release and not the switch being held down.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 November 2014, 08:59:44
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 06 November 2014, 08:58:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 04:56:38
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:22:47
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:21:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:36:48
    2) Does the firmware support a MX Lock switch?
    is MX Lock need firmware? i think just lock like press as usual

    You would need to set it up as a shift if you want to use an MX Lock and have it work properly.
    Can't tell if trolling... I'd like to use the MX lock as a function layer on the 1800 for giggles. It was my understanding that the lock switch would need firmware support in order to do so. Think metalliqaz told me that? I probably should've been more specific.

    If you want it to behave as a Caps Lock, you need to assign the Caps Lock switch to be a Shift key.  Yes, I know that Caps Lock doesn't toggle !@#$ on the number row and Shift does, but since, as Photekq stated, MX Locks basically hold the key down.  In order to get the Caps lock functionality, you'd need to set up the switch as a Shift, making it a Shift Lock.  Otherwise, you would need firmware that only acknowledged the initial toggle and release and not the switch being held down.

    And if you want it to behave as a toggled function key, you would just program it to act as a momentary function key and the switch just holds itself down.

    Am I misinterpreting what you're trying to do, CBA?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 09:00:55
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 November 2014, 08:59:44
    If you want it to behave as a toggled function key, you would just program it to act as a momentary function key and the switch just holds itself down.

    Am I misinterpreting what you're trying to do, CBA?

    No you got it. I should have asked this question:

    "I want my MX Lock to act like a toggled function key on my Leeku 1800. Does the firmware support it?"

    But I think I've got it now. Thanks everyone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:27:37
    what's one step up from mx reds

    korean spring wise
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:28:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:27:37
    what's one step up from mx reds

    Sorry? Do you mean spring force wise?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:31:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:28:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:27:37
    what's one step up from mx reds

    Sorry? Do you mean spring force wise?

    it was kinda implied but yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:33:22
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:31:10
    it was kinda implied but yes

    If I understood what you were asking, I wouldn't have asked for clarification. Or was my confusion not implied too?

    I think you want 62g springs.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:04:11
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:03:30
    what korean spring is a tad heavier then mx reds? i forgot :)

    62g-65g.

    Last time you asked, BlueBär suggested this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:37:25
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:31:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:28:06
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:27:37
    what's one step up from mx reds

    Sorry? Do you mean spring force wise?

    it was kinda implied but yes

    #gold springs would be a step up.   :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:44:29
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 06 November 2014, 14:14:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:33:22
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:31:10
    it was kinda implied but yes

    If I understood what you were asking, I wouldn't have asked for clarification. Or was my confusion not implied too?

    I think you want 62g springs.

    Quote from: BlueBär on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:04:11
    Quote from: Dubsgalore on Sun, 19 October 2014, 06:03:30
    what korean spring is a tad heavier then mx reds? i forgot :)

    62g-65g.

    Last time you asked, BlueBär suggested this.

    word thanks

    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:37:25
    #gold springs would be a step up.   :rolleyes:

    that's what I'm thinking about doing lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:04:16
    Will a 1390636 Model M work with the average modern PC with a DIN5->PS/2 adapter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:08:19
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:04:16
    Will a 1390636 Model M work with the average modern PC with a DIN5->PS/2 adapter?

    Does the board have the DIN5 connector or the RJ45 connector? RJ45 will look like a telephone cable plug. If it has the DIN5 connector, you can use the adapter as you said. If it has the RJ45, you'll need to convert it. A Soarer converter is popular for this and supposedly it's very easy. I haven't tried it myself though so I can't speak to the ease of the mod first hand.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:12:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:08:19
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:04:16
    Will a 1390636 Model M work with the average modern PC with a DIN5->PS/2 adapter?

    Does the board have the DIN5 connector or the RJ45 connector? RJ45 will look like a telephone cable plug. If it has the DIN5 connector, you can use the adapter as you said. If it has the RJ45, you'll need to convert it. A Soarer converter is popular for this and supposedly it's very easy. I haven't tried it myself though so I can't speak to the ease of the mod first hand.
    I thought all 1390636's had the DIN5 connector (all of the ones I have found on the internet were DIN5). The seller does not actually have a picture showing the connector so I will send him a message.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:13:41
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:12:09
    I thought all 1390636's had the DIN5 connector (all of the ones I have found on the internet were DIN5). The seller does not actually have a picture showing the connector so I will send him a message.

    A Model M 1390636 is a terminal model right? If so, I'm not 100% sure what connector it has.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:19:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:13:41
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:12:09
    I thought all 1390636's had the DIN5 connector (all of the ones I have found on the internet were DIN5). The seller does not actually have a picture showing the connector so I will send him a message.

    A Model M 1390636 is a terminal model right? If so, I'm not 100% sure what connector it has.
    Yes, I do believe it is a terminal board. Is it not possible to re-wire an RJ-45 connector to a PS/2 connector?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:22:16
    Nope, you need to do a soarer's mod.  RJ45 uses a different protocol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:29:54
    These are some pics of the model M that I am looking at. $32 untested and sold as is. Is it worth?

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/yeEAAOSwxH1UEIXl/$_57.JPG)

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/d00AAOSw-jhUEIXu/$_57.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:31:32
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:29:54
    These are some pics of the model M that I am looking at. $32 untested and sold as is. Is it worth?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/yeEAAOSwxH1UEIXl/$_57.JPG)


    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/d00AAOSw-jhUEIXu/$_57.JPG)


    I still can't tell 100% what cable that is but it *doesn't* look like the RJ45 connector. If it is Din5, and that price is with shipping, it's not a bad price.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:33:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:31:32
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:29:54
    These are some pics of the model M that I am looking at. $32 untested and sold as is. Is it worth?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/yeEAAOSwxH1UEIXl/$_57.JPG)


    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/d00AAOSw-jhUEIXu/$_57.JPG)


    I still can't tell 100% what cable that is but it *doesn't* look like the RJ45 connector. If it is Din5, and that price is with shipping, it's not a bad price.
    Now that I look closely, I actually think that it is DIN5. The RJ-45 cable is flatter and the DIN5 cable is rounder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:34:42
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:33:52
    Now that I look closely, I actually think that it is DIN5. The RJ-45 cable is flatter and the DIN5 cable is rounder.

    I agree. That's why I said I don't think it's RJ45. But I'm not sure if the terminals came in another connection nor can I 100% confirm it's the DIN5 cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 16:20:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:34:42
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:33:52
    Now that I look closely, I actually think that it is DIN5. The RJ-45 cable is flatter and the DIN5 cable is rounder.

    I agree. That's why I said I don't think it's RJ45. But I'm not sure if the terminals came in another connection nor can I 100% confirm it's the DIN5 cable.
    Well, I just bought it. I hope it is a DIN5 connector, but if not I can fix that. It appears to be in good condition, so I think it should work. Hopefully all of the switch mechanisms are in working condition too. What do you think?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 16:30:19


    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 16:20:18
    Well, I just bought it. I hope it is a DIN5 connector, but if not I can fix that. It appears to be in good condition, so I think it should work. Hopefully all of the switch mechanisms are in working condition too. What do you think?

    From the pictures, the board looked like it was in good condition. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:00:14
    Just to clarify, if I use a DIN5 to PS/2 adapter, will the keys do what they do on a normal keyboard? For example, will the SetUp/Attn key work like ESC, and will the ALT key were control normally is work like a control key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:13:05
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:00:14
    Just to clarify, if I use a DIN5 to PS/2 adapter, will the keys do what they do on a normal keyboard? For example, will the SetUp/Attn key work like ESC, and will the ALT key were control normally is work like a control key?

    If it says Alt it will output the Alt keycode. SetUp/Attn should work as Esc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:21:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:13:05
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:00:14
    Just to clarify, if I use a DIN5 to PS/2 adapter, will the keys do what they do on a normal keyboard? For example, will the SetUp/Attn key work like ESC, and will the ALT key were control normally is work like a control key?

    If it says Alt it will output the Alt keycode. SetUp/Attn should work as Esc.
    Is there a way to re-map that one alt key (the one where ctrl usually is) to control instead of alt?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:23:36
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:21:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:13:05
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:00:14
    Just to clarify, if I use a DIN5 to PS/2 adapter, will the keys do what they do on a normal keyboard? For example, will the SetUp/Attn key work like ESC, and will the ALT key were control normally is work like a control key?

    If it says Alt it will output the Alt keycode. SetUp/Attn should work as Esc.
    Is there a way to re-map that one alt key (the one where ctrl usually is) to control instead of alt?

    autohotkey would probably do that for you
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:29:11
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:29:34
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:23:36
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:21:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:13:05
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:00:14
    Just to clarify, if I use a DIN5 to PS/2 adapter, will the keys do what they do on a normal keyboard? For example, will the SetUp/Attn key work like ESC, and will the ALT key were control normally is work like a control key?

    If it says Alt it will output the Alt keycode. SetUp/Attn should work as Esc.
    Is there a way to re-map that one alt key (the one where ctrl usually is) to control instead of alt?

    autohotkey would probably do that for you
    I will try that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:40:28
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:29:11
    I don't imagine it's actually Alt. The key was probably missing, and he replaced it with something else. Isn't that key usually Send, or something like that, on a terminal M?
    The picture in this ebay listing (also for a 1390636) shows the keycap saying 'Reset' (I think), but I can not read the alternate function.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-English-Keyboard-for-3196-Terminal-103-Key-1390636-/370400729457


    Does anyone happen to know the key codes for the enter key where rctrl is and the reset key where lctrl is? I want to re-map those keys with soarer's converter eventually so that I can have all the other cool features it adds too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 19:07:09
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:23:36
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:21:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:13:05
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:00:14
    Just to clarify, if I use a DIN5 to PS/2 adapter, will the keys do what they do on a normal keyboard? For example, will the SetUp/Attn key work like ESC, and will the ALT key were control normally is work like a control key?

    If it says Alt it will output the Alt keycode. SetUp/Attn should work as Esc.
    Is there a way to re-map that one alt key (the one where ctrl usually is) to control instead of alt?

    autohotkey would probably do that for you
    How do I know what the code for the key is since it is a non-standard key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 06 November 2014, 19:25:54
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 19:07:09
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:23:36
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:21:03
    Quote from: BlueBär on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:13:05
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:00:14
    Just to clarify, if I use a DIN5 to PS/2 adapter, will the keys do what they do on a normal keyboard? For example, will the SetUp/Attn key work like ESC, and will the ALT key were control normally is work like a control key?

    If it says Alt it will output the Alt keycode. SetUp/Attn should work as Esc.
    Is there a way to re-map that one alt key (the one where ctrl usually is) to control instead of alt?

    autohotkey would probably do that for you
    How do I know what the code for the key is since it is a non-standard key?

    Can't help you there, try ALT first and see if that works.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 06 November 2014, 19:53:06
    Quote from: wes1099 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 19:07:09
    How do I know what the code for the key is since it is a non-standard key?

    Aqua Key Test returns a code for any key you press, doesn't it?

    You may have to look in the small dialog box near the bottom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Fri, 07 November 2014, 05:35:06
    What's the best switch tool for someone without a dedicated switch tool?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Fri, 07 November 2014, 05:38:43
    For mounted switches I use 2 little screwdrivers, for loose switches I find that using a switch top works quite well.

    http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/how-to-open-a-non-mounted-cherry-mx-switch-t2130.html#p40423 -> I took this as inspiriation but I didn't actually make a jig, I just hold the switch in one hand and jimmy it open with the switch top with my other hand.

    That whole thread has lots of good ideas on how to open switches actually.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 November 2014, 06:06:34
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 07 November 2014, 05:35:06
    What's the best switch tool for someone without a dedicated switch tool?

    The OP also has some ideas.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Prelim on Fri, 07 November 2014, 08:27:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 06:37:40
    Quote from: Prelim on Thu, 06 November 2014, 06:35:21
    anyone knows if there would be any problem with the black color?! Doesn't make much sense as I've done retrobright in classic beige doubleshots and the black lettering remained perfect.

    A quick Google search yields this page on the retr0bright website (http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/Problems+and+Pitfalls). Scroll down to #4.

    that's hair bleach containing Terpene, not just plain and simple liquid H202+oxi used for retrobright... so my doubt maintains :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 07 November 2014, 08:29:39
    just curious not weabo :))
    what mouse premium japan
    yeah like other stuff artisan,topre.etc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 November 2014, 09:02:25
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 07 November 2014, 08:29:39
    just curious not weabo :))
    what mouse premium japan
    yeah like other stuff artisan,topre.etc

    Not really keyboard related. Try asking the input sub-forum where you'll get a better response than you would here.

    Quote from: Prelim on Fri, 07 November 2014, 08:27:41
    that's hair bleach containing Terpene, not just plain and simple liquid H202+oxi used for retrobright... so my doubt maintains :(

    I don't have any retrobright experience personally. If you could experiment yourself on a board or another piece of plastic that isn't valuable to you and report back, that would be wonderful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 07 November 2014, 15:06:54
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 07 November 2014, 05:35:06
    What's the best switch tool for someone without a dedicated switch tool?

    I used a small screwdriver in my recent spring swap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 07 November 2014, 15:33:37
    Are there any PBT dyesub keycap replacements for the FC660C?  I know the new FC660C has the nice new dyesubs by default, but I have one of the old pad printed ones.  Can I haz dyesubs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Fri, 07 November 2014, 16:49:53
    What is the difference between AT and terminal? If there is a difference, does anyone know if a 1390636 model m is terminal or AT? I have deeply confused myself while researching model M's...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:16:51
    The oldest Model Ms came with a black coiled cable and "AT-style" (aka large DIN) connector on the computer side and a removable SDL connection at the back of the keyboard.

    Later incarnations had a removable SDL-to-PS/2 cable, and after about 1993 they went to a permanent PS/2 cable.

    Terminals came with a dizzying array of odd connectors that would not plug into the back of a conventional PC. The earliest ones had the large 240 degree DIN plugs, then 180 degree DIN plugs, then "RJ45"-like connectors (actually 6P6C).

    The brilliant Soarer made them all work beautifully with a Teensy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wes1099 on Fri, 07 November 2014, 18:43:03
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:16:51
    The oldest Model Ms came with a black coiled cable and "AT-style" (aka large DIN) connector on the computer side and a removable SDL connection at the back of the keyboard.

    Later incarnations had a removable SDL-to-PS/2 cable, and after about 1993 they went to a permanent PS/2 cable.

    Terminals came with a dizzying array of odd connectors that would not plug into the back of a conventional PC. The earliest ones had the large 240 degree DIN plugs, then 180 degree DIN plugs, then "RJ45"-like connectors (actually 6P6C).

    The brilliant Soarer made them all work beautifully with a Teensy.
    So if I understand this correctly, my 1390636 Model M is a terminal board since it does not have a removable black coiled cable or a ps/2 connection. I have heard that the 1390636 is compatible with modern PCs, is this true if it is in fact a terminal board?

    This is what it looks like:

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/yeEAAOSwxH1UEIXl/$_57.JPG)

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/d00AAOSw-jhUEIXu/$_57.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 07 November 2014, 19:03:56
    Quote from: wes1099 on Fri, 07 November 2014, 18:43:03
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:16:51
    The oldest Model Ms came with a black coiled cable and "AT-style" (aka large DIN) connector on the computer side and a removable SDL connection at the back of the keyboard.

    Later incarnations had a removable SDL-to-PS/2 cable, and after about 1993 they went to a permanent PS/2 cable.

    Terminals came with a dizzying array of odd connectors that would not plug into the back of a conventional PC. The earliest ones had the large 240 degree DIN plugs, then 180 degree DIN plugs, then "RJ45"-like connectors (actually 6P6C).

    The brilliant Soarer made them all work beautifully with a Teensy.
    So if I understand this correctly, my 1390636 Model M is a terminal board since it does not have a removable black coiled cable or a ps/2 connection. I have heard that the 1390636 is compatible with modern PCs, is this true if it is in fact a terminal board?

    This is what it looks like:

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/yeEAAOSwxH1UEIXl/$_57.JPG)


    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/z/d00AAOSw-jhUEIXu/$_57.JPG)

    Yep, that's a terminal. You can also tell because it has no caps/num/scroll lights
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sat, 08 November 2014, 00:10:19
    is cherry kibord have tkl/ssk i see all are fullsize?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 08 November 2014, 00:58:57
    Quote from: yasuo on Sat, 08 November 2014, 00:10:19
    is cherry kibord have tkl/ssk i see all are fullsize?
    G80-5000 is the Cherry keyboard closest to TKL, unless there's some really obscure model that comes closer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Sun, 09 November 2014, 07:41:28
    Are SMD or DIP diodes better?

    I'm getting a GON 60% NerD PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 November 2014, 07:44:52
    Quote from: Karura on Sun, 09 November 2014, 07:41:28
    Are SMD or DIP diodes better?

    I'm getting a GON 60% NerD PCB.

    I don't think there's a difference in function between the two types so neither would be "better". Looks like the PCB will take either kind. I prefer to use DIP diodes because they're easier to handle than those tiny SMD diodes. Plus I haven't taught myself how to SMD solder yet.

    I guess the usual decision for me is can I use DIP diodes and not have them interfere with anything else? My Leeku 1800, I don't think I can do DIP diodes and I'm forced to use SMD. There's no holes for the DIP diodes that won't interfere with the LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Sun, 09 November 2014, 08:08:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 November 2014, 07:44:52
    Quote from: Karura on Sun, 09 November 2014, 07:41:28
    Are SMD or DIP diodes better?

    I'm getting a GON 60% NerD PCB.

    I don't think there's a difference in function between the two types so neither would be "better". Looks like the PCB will take either kind. I prefer to use DIP diodes because they're easier to handle than those tiny SMD diodes. Plus I haven't taught myself how to SMD solder yet.

    I guess the usual decision for me is can I use DIP diodes and not have them interfere with anything else? My Leeku 1800, I don't think I can do DIP diodes and I'm forced to use SMD. There's no holes for the DIP diodes that won't interfere with the LEDs.
    Thanks for the replies like always :)

    I guess whatever is easier and poses no cons.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:41:38
    is this right old cherry keyboard not use stabs but two switch? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:43:42
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:41:38
    is this right old cherry keyboard not use stabs but two switch? :)

    I've never heard that before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:44:46
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:41:38
    is this right old cherry keyboard not use stabs but two switch? :)
    Do you mean Cherry branded? If so, no. They use stabilisers. The only one I can think of that uses a switch as a stabiliser is this : http://imgur.com/a/ukoPH [look at the large enter - it has a stabliser + switch with no spring]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: margo baggins on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:54:01
    60% keyboard screws.

    For mounting everything to the tray/case. What are the screws?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:54:56
    Quote from: margo baggins on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:54:01
    60% keyboard screws.

    For mounting everything to the tray/case. What are the screws?

    The poker ones are listed in the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:57:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:43:42
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:41:38
    is this right old cherry keyboard not use stabs but two switch? :)
    I've never heard that before.
    i read someone say in reddit but no pics unfortunately :-X
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:44:46
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:41:38
    is this right old cherry keyboard not use stabs but two switch? :)
    Do you mean Cherry branded? If so, no. They use stabilisers. The only one I can think of that uses a switch as a stabiliser is this : http://imgur.com/a/ukoPH [look at the large enter - it has a stabliser + switch with no spring]
    yeah almost like that & i curious SP have keycap 2u with 2mount i think its mean
    i've tried use 2switch is alternative for diy kb with plate 2mm++ thick
    feel is stiff at least with reds not really, there any custom spring >20g?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: margo baggins on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:59:14
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:57:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:43:42
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:41:38
    is this right old cherry keyboard not use stabs but two switch? :)
    I've never heard that before.
    i read someone say in reddit but no pics unfortunately :-X
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:44:46
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:41:38
    is this right old cherry keyboard not use stabs but two switch? :)
    Do you mean Cherry branded? If so, no. They use stabilisers. The only one I can think of that uses a switch as a stabiliser is this : http://imgur.com/a/ukoPH [look at the large enter - it has a stabliser + switch with no spring]
    yeah almost like that & i curious SP have keycap 2u with 2mount i think its mean
    i've tried use 2switch is alternative for diy kb with plate 2mm++ thick
    feel is stiff at least with reds not really, there any custom spring >20g?

    POS boards have multiple switches under the caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:01:31
    Quote from: margo baggins on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:59:14
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:57:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:43:42
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:41:38
    is this right old cherry keyboard not use stabs but two switch? :)
    I've never heard that before.
    i read someone say in reddit but no pics unfortunately :-X
    Quote from: Photekq on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:44:46
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:41:38
    is this right old cherry keyboard not use stabs but two switch? :)
    Do you mean Cherry branded? If so, no. They use stabilisers. The only one I can think of that uses a switch as a stabiliser is this : http://imgur.com/a/ukoPH [look at the large enter - it has a stabliser + switch with no spring]
    yeah almost like that & i curious SP have keycap 2u with 2mount i think its mean
    i've tried use 2switch is alternative for diy kb with plate 2mm++ thick
    feel is stiff at least with reds not really, there any custom spring >20g?
    POS boards have multiple switches under the caps.
    ah yeah i've seen pos board with 2switch may SP make it for POS
    caps&enter use 2switch
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/78)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: margo baggins on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:16:09
    POS boards are programmable, so you sort of make the layout with the keycaps - and if you have a cap that sits over two switches, you just effectively turn one of them off in the programming of the board, so in effect only 1 of the 2 switches send a scan code/whatever.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:24:06
    While working on mx clear pcb mounted , I was wondering , why is it so hard to pull the keycaps ofc mx clear stems ?

    I find myself using a screwdriver to hold the switch otherwise I end up pulling the stem and spring with the cap (PBT keycaps).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: margo baggins on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:35:38
    Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:24:06
    While working on mx clear pcb mounted , I was wondering , why is it so hard to pull the keycaps ofc mx clear stems ?

    I find myself using a screwdriver to hold the switch otherwise I end up pulling the stem and spring with the cap (PBT keycaps).

    I think the stem is literally just a bit bigger, like the thickness of the cross shape. Don't know why that's the case.

    This is why notched plates are the work of the devil.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:39:18
    Quote from: margo baggins on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:35:38
    Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:24:06
    While working on mx clear pcb mounted , I was wondering , why is it so hard to pull the keycaps ofc mx clear stems ?

    I find myself using a screwdriver to hold the switch otherwise I end up pulling the stem and spring with the cap (PBT keycaps).

    I think the stem is literally just a bit bigger, like the thickness of the cross shape. Don't know why that's the case.

    This is why notched plates are the work of the devil.

    make sense I'll compare it .

    #NOPLATE_YOLO
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:41:16
    Quote from: margo baggins on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:35:38
    Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:24:06
    While working on mx clear pcb mounted , I was wondering , why is it so hard to pull the keycaps ofc mx clear stems ?

    I find myself using a screwdriver to hold the switch otherwise I end up pulling the stem and spring with the cap (PBT keycaps).

    I think the stem is literally just a bit bigger, like the thickness of the cross shape. Don't know why that's the case.

    This is why notched plates are the work of the devil.

    That's why everyone should have one of these hamblet keypullers. It's like a prybar for caps, never had an issue removing caps.

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:42:22
    Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:24:06
    While working on mx clear pcb mounted , I was wondering , why is it so hard to pull the keycaps ofc mx clear stems ?

    I think that this thread is a great resource (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45122.0) in answering your question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Mon, 10 November 2014, 11:05:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:42:22
    Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:24:06
    While working on mx clear pcb mounted , I was wondering , why is it so hard to pull the keycaps ofc mx clear stems ?

    I think that this thread is a great resource (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45122.0) in answering your question.

    Oh , I never noticed those notches , very interesting read , thanks CTPBadAsss .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:36:34
    Hi all: my ducky shine 3 TKL'US layout has developed a strange problem: I have to press ' key I have to press it twice as on the first press nothing happens and then it appears double(after I pressed it twice) (this is after re-installing windows as I rebuilt my waterloop/cooling), it was working fine before.

    I have so far updated the firmware to the latest, reset the settings to default, tried other USB ports with no success. Anything else I could try before I contact Ducky?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:42:35
    Quote from: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:36:34
    I have to press ' key. I have to press it twice as on the first press nothing happens and then it appears double(after I pressed it twice) (this is after re-installing windows as I rebuilt my waterloop/cooling), it was working fine before.

    Sounds like you have either a bad solder joint or need to replace the switch. If you have a multimeter, open the board up, and then check the solder joint. If the joint checks out to be ok, then the switch contacts inside could be messed up and you may want to try swapping out the switch.

    Or it could be that somehow, the PCB is somehow shorting and causing your switch to not read properly. My PCB was touching the bottom of the case which was causing problems. I had this on two of my boards and solved it but putting some drawer liner from Target in between the PCB and bottom part of the case.

    If you're under warranty (bought recently), I'd talk to Ducky. If you're past that time window, I suggest talking to dorkvader (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13303) to see if he'd troubleshoot your board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:45:07
    thanks. It's still under warranty, bought it 3 months ago :-(
    will talk to ducky about it, let's see what they say
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:51:46
    Quote from: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:45:07
    thanks. It's still under warranty, bought it 3 months ago :-(
    will talk to ducky about it, let's see what they say

    actually, I take some of that back. just realised that the same happens with the `/ ~ key. one press doesn't do anything and pressing it again comes up double. so definitely a fw or other problem... it would be strange for both these keys to start doing this after I re-installed windows ..and it was working fine before :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:54:20
    Quote from: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:51:46
    actually, I take some of that back. just realised that the same happens with the `/ ~ key. one press doesn't do anything and pressing it again comes up double. so definitely a fw or other problem... it would be strange for both these keys to start doing this after I re-installed windows ..and it was working fine before :(

    Check your manual to see if there's a dipswitch switch setting that's causing this? Shine 3 has dipswitches I think... My previous guess still stands until I think of something else. But if you've already flashed the firmware and your dipswitches are setup right, I'd at least contact Ducky at see if they can answer your question or help you out. They're responsive on their Facebook page if you've got an account on Facebook.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:59:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:54:20
    Quote from: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:51:46
    actually, I take some of that back. just realised that the same happens with the `/ ~ key. one press doesn't do anything and pressing it again comes up double. so definitely a fw or other problem... it would be strange for both these keys to start doing this after I re-installed windows ..and it was working fine before :(

    Check your manual to see if there's a dipswitch switch setting that's causing this? Shine 3 has dipswitches I think... My previous guess still stands until I think of something else. But if you've already flashed the firmware and your dipswitches are setup right, I'd at least contact Ducky at see if they can answer your question or help you out. They're responsive on their Facebook page if you've got an account on Facebook.


    yep, did just that, seems to be in order, they are all on off as standard.

    yup! thanks :) doing that now.
    just wrote them an email actually ...I'm curious if the fact that I bought it from Holland and been using it in UK will affect me and the warranty somehow (hope not!!). I hate the UK layout with the short shift on the left so I had to have the US one :-)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 10 November 2014, 16:04:09
    Quote from: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:36:34
    Hi all: my ducky shine 3 TKL'US layout has developed a strange problem: I have to press ' key I have to press it twice as on the first press nothing happens and then it appears double(after I pressed it twice) (this is after re-installing windows as I rebuilt my waterloop/cooling), it was working fine before.

    I have so far updated the firmware to the latest, reset the settings to default, tried other USB ports with no success. Anything else I could try before I contact Ducky?

    You may try unplugging the keyboard. Then, flipping all the DIP switches up, and then back down. Plug the keyboard back in.

    This may help...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Mon, 10 November 2014, 21:27:48
    What is OTD red alert 2.0 and 2.1? is it 2 sets, or one with addons?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: colomb on Mon, 10 November 2014, 22:52:43
    Now that I have a Realforce 87U, I'd like to get some colored keycaps on it. Other than a couple classified posts here I can't find anything. Where does one purchase Topre keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 10 November 2014, 23:48:37
    Quote from: colomb on Mon, 10 November 2014, 22:52:43
    Now that I have a Realforce 87U, I'd like to get some colored keycaps on it. Other than a couple classified posts here I can't find anything. Where does one purchase Topre keycaps?

    There are very few places still selling these keycaps.

    You could try: http://stores.ebay.com.au/widebasket
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 11 November 2014, 03:17:13
    Quote from: Elocutive on Mon, 10 November 2014, 21:27:48
    What is OTD red alert 2.0 and 2.1? is it 2 sets, or one with addons?

    2.1 is an addon set for RA2.0, which is just the second round of Red Alert.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: margo baggins on Tue, 11 November 2014, 04:33:59
    Quote from: klaxhu on Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:36:34
    Hi all: my ducky shine 3 TKL'US layout has developed a strange problem: I have to press ' key I have to press it twice as on the first press nothing happens and then it appears double(after I pressed it twice) (this is after re-installing windows as I rebuilt my waterloop/cooling), it was working fine before.

    I have so far updated the firmware to the latest, reset the settings to default, tried other USB ports with no success. Anything else I could try before I contact Ducky?

    Isn't that just US international layout set in windows? You should be able to make it happen by pressing ' and then pressing space, means you have to double space though. Makes lot of special characters easier to do than altgr + combo's etc. like if you press ' and then press e afterwards, you get é. If you don't like it then change it to US in windows.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: colomb on Tue, 11 November 2014, 12:08:46
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 10 November 2014, 23:48:37
    Quote from: colomb on Mon, 10 November 2014, 22:52:43
    Now that I have a Realforce 87U, I'd like to get some colored keycaps on it. Other than a couple classified posts here I can't find anything. Where does one purchase Topre keycaps?

    There are very few places still selling these keycaps.

    You could try: http://stores.ebay.com.au/widebasket

    Perfect, thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:44:05
    Is their a reason that you normally see topre as being dental band modded instead of o rings , and is it possible to mod cherry keycaps for topre?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:47:44
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:44:05
    Is their a reason that you normally see topre as being dental band modded instead of o rings , and is it possible to mod cherry keycaps for topre?

    orings don't fit on topre switch stems and no, however the new CM novatouch is a topre board that uses cherry keycaps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:09:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:47:44
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:44:05
    Is their a reason that you normally see topre as being dental band modded instead of o rings , and is it possible to mod cherry keycaps for topre?
    orings don't fit on topre switch stems and no, however the new CM novatouch is a topre board that uses cherry keycaps

    Thank you much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 11 November 2014, 20:51:18
    Can someone point me to some UV/purple, NOT PINK, leds please.  They can be rectangular or round.  That part doesn't matter as the switch tops are getting modded so I can swap stems and springs without pulling the LEDs or installing sip sockets. 

    These are going to be for the wifes GH36.  If I can get this thing built she will finally put her Filco on her desk for daily use instead of just dismissed as a spare in the laptop bag.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Tue, 11 November 2014, 20:54:29
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 11 November 2014, 20:51:18
    Can someone point me to some UV/purple, NOT PINK, leds please.  They can be rectangular or round.  That part doesn't matter as the switch tops are getting modded so I can swap stems and springs without pulling the LEDs or installing sip sockets. 

    These are going to be for the wifes GH36.  If I can get this thing built she will finally put her Filco on her desk for daily use instead of just dismissed as a spare in the laptop bag.

    Like this?s
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5540/ele-235/3mm_PurpleUV_LED.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 11 November 2014, 21:00:29
    Yeah but something from a site like digikey or mouser would be better.  I am pretty sure that I can get some cheaper than 50 cents each plus so price breaks for bulk.  Nothing wrong with that site as I have ordered from them before but would like a better price.  Plus, I am going to have to get other parts as well and would rather order all from one site at once to save shipping costs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 11 November 2014, 21:02:29
    http://ledmuseum.candlepower.us/ledvio.htm
    The above website has some good info. I used it as a reference when I was looking for purple LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 11 November 2014, 21:46:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:47:44
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:44:05
    Is their a reason that you normally see topre as being dental band modded instead of o rings , and is it possible to mod cherry keycaps for topre?

    orings don't fit on topre switch stems and no, however the new CM novatouch is a topre board that uses cherry keycaps

    Brian Blessed is back!  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Tue, 11 November 2014, 23:13:15
    Would a QFR tkl top case fit on a Ducky shine 3 or a Filco mj 2 tkl?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:18:04
    Are all cherry PCB mount stabs the same. What I mean is will there be a difference between buying them from Imsto vs Gon?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:19:55
    Is anyone here a Taobao agent? I'd like to order something from there, but I can't read Chinese and don't live in China.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:29:32
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:19:55
    Is anyone here a Taobao agent? I'd like to order something from there, but I can't read Chinese and don't live in China.

    Feng, Qtan
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:32:09
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:18:04
    Are all cherry PCB mount stabs the same. What I mean is will there be a difference between buying them from Imsto vs Gon?

    Well, you have to order the right size (obviously) but there should be no further differences to be aware of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Veridis on Wed, 12 November 2014, 02:22:25
    It seems that WASD keyboards and Keypop are selling novelty keycaps like the Look Of Disapproval keycap.

    Who makes the best version of it? Also, is it OEM profile?

    Thankyou.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 12 November 2014, 02:45:58
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:32:09
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:18:04
    Are all cherry PCB mount stabs the same. What I mean is will there be a difference between buying them from Imsto vs Gon?
    Well, you have to order the right size (obviously) but there should be no further differences to be aware of.
    Just that there are clip-on PCB mount stabs and screw-on. But those last ones are fairly hard to come by and don't really make a difference in most cases. They are simply firmer and feel more solid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 12 November 2014, 04:12:57
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 11 November 2014, 23:13:15
    Would a QFR tkl top case fit on a Ducky shine 3 or a Filco mj 2 tkl?

    Nope, most likely not.

    Quote from: Veridis on Wed, 12 November 2014, 02:22:25
    It seems that WASD keyboards and Keypop are selling novelty keycaps like the Look Of Disapproval keycap.

    Who makes the best version of it? Also, is it OEM profile?

    WASD only does pad printing, Keypop sells doubleshots from SP. Doubleshots are better than pad printed caps.

    Both are OEM profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Veridis on Wed, 12 November 2014, 04:14:22
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 12 November 2014, 04:12:57

    WASD only does pad printing, Keypop sells doubleshots from SP. Doubleshots are better than pad printed caps.

    Both are OEM profile.
    Thank you! Gonna get some from Keypop soon :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 12 November 2014, 11:44:12
    Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 12 November 2014, 04:12:57
    WASD only does pad printing, Keypop sells doubleshots from SP. Doubleshots are better than pad printed caps.

    Both are OEM profile.

    1. wasd does UV which is a different process than pad printing.
    2. SP does not do OEM profile. I believe the keypop SP doubleshots are SP's DCS profile
    3. There are benefits to both WASD's process and SP's. I wouldn't call one "better" but I guess it's all opinion anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: madhias on Thu, 13 November 2014, 14:58:35
    Where do i currently get a 60% anodized aluminum plate, with ISO support, and possibility to open switches afterwards? I have now cheap aluminum plate, which is silver, but i don't really like the look, it is too glossy, and too shiny with dark caps!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 13 November 2014, 16:00:35
    rofl what a bad idea TS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 19:57:30
    (http://www.potomacescrap.com/ebay/images/STORE-6105-0004.JPG)

    Anyone know what these might be?

    actually know that I look at it appears to be some sort of splash guard covered swtich
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 November 2014, 03:08:36


    Quote from: madhias on Thu, 13 November 2014, 14:58:35
    Where do i currently get a 60% anodized aluminum plate, with ISO support, and possibility to open switches afterwards?

    I'm not sure if there's a vendor that that regularly stocks 60% plates. Try looking at imsto and GONs stores. But iso might make things tricky. You could always finish the plate you have now. I'm sure there's anodizing or powder coating available near you. Or you could possibly spray paint.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 14 November 2014, 03:27:00
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 19:57:30
    Show Image
    (http://www.potomacescrap.com/ebay/images/STORE-6105-0004.JPG)


    Anyone know what these might be?

    actually know that I look at it appears to be some sort of splash guard covered swtich

    That is definitely a splash guard. Switches seem to have square stems which is common with RAFI switches, so maybe one of those? Could be completly wrong though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: madhias on Fri, 14 November 2014, 03:31:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 November 2014, 03:08:36


    Quote from: madhias on Thu, 13 November 2014, 14:58:35
    Where do i currently get a 60% anodized aluminum plate, with ISO support, and possibility to open switches afterwards?

    I'm not sure if there's a vendor that that regularly stocks 60% plates. Try looking at imsto and GONs stores. But iso might make things tricky. You could always finish the plate you have now. I'm sure there's anodizing or powder coating available near you. Or you could possibly spray paint.

    Thanks! I thought of finishing the plate i currently have, and also build another plate & PCB combo, but this time with a transparent acrylic plate. I just didn't like that silver of the aluminum plate i currently have, it 'glows' under the caps - don't know how to describe it  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 14 November 2014, 08:54:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 14 November 2014, 03:27:00
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 19:57:30
    Show Image
    (http://www.potomacescrap.com/ebay/images/STORE-6105-0004.JPG)


    Anyone know what these might be?

    actually know that I look at it appears to be some sort of splash guard covered swtich

    That is definitely a splash guard. Switches seem to have square stems which is common with RAFI switches, so maybe one of those? Could be completly wrong though.

    Given the size and shape of the switch (look at how tall it appears to be and the shape of the stem, not just the square), I'm almost 100% sure it's not RAFI.  My guess is that it's some sort of dome or membrane switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 November 2014, 09:18:11
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 11 November 2014, 23:13:15
    Would a QFR tkl top case fit on a Ducky shine 3 or a Filco mj 2 tkl?

    Actually, I think I have used a QFR top on a Filco MJ2 TKL bottom before. I didn't think it would work, but it did. But I don't think the screw lines up for closure, only the side tabs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:35:36
    Is there such thing as an ANSI skidata keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:48:45
    Quote from: Elocutive on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:35:36
    Is there such thing as an ANSI skidata keyboard?
    I don't know if there's an ANSI board but if you're looking for just caps, Originative came out with a set that was very similar to that color scheme.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Sat, 15 November 2014, 02:02:58
    Quick question before sleep!

    I've narrowed down my choices for LED sizes to 1.8mm and 2x3x4.

    From what I've read, 1.8mm is the one to go with, because it has full clearance of almost any keycap, while 2x3x4 might have problems with thicker ones.

    1) Now what I'm really curious about is which LEDs will have a better glow to them?

    Not sure if anyone has compared the two sizes side by side, but I think it might be worth risking the clearance issues if the 2x3x4 ones are significantly brighter :D

    2) Also, does anyone know which keycaps have clearance issues with 2x3x4?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 15 November 2014, 02:06:09
    2x3x4 is brighter and, IMO, has a better diffuse glow.  The 1.8mm has a weird heavy concentric glow with heavy falloff on the edges.  That said, both are nice, but it you want bright, 2x3x4 is the way to go.

    And, for the record, I've used TA PBT, Cherry caps, and others with no issue with 2x3x4.  I think it's mainly Imsto that has issues with it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 15 November 2014, 17:21:35
    what program can i use to remap Caps Lock to FN? tried KeyTweak and it doesn't support remapping to FN (windows 8.1)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 15 November 2014, 18:31:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:48:45
    Quote from: Elocutive on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:35:36
    Is there such thing as an ANSI skidata keyboard?
    I don't know if there's an ANSI board but if you're looking for just caps, Originative came out with a set that was very similar to that color scheme.

    I asked the same thing a while back: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1273891#msg1273891
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Sat, 15 November 2014, 19:20:09
    Are there any TenKeyLess ALPS keyboards? If so, where do I buy them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 November 2014, 19:33:45
    Quote from: MGH on Sat, 15 November 2014, 19:20:09
    Are there any TenKeyLess ALPS keyboards? If so, where do I buy them?
    There's not many options. Filco Zero and ducky 1087xm for stock boards. Kingsaver for a custom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 15 November 2014, 21:40:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 November 2014, 19:33:45
    Filco Zero and ducky 1087xm for stock boards. Kingsaver for a custom.

    All out of production and pricey in the aftermarket.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 15 November 2014, 22:08:55
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 14 November 2014, 08:54:16
    Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 14 November 2014, 03:27:00
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 19:57:30
    Show Image
    (http://www.potomacescrap.com/ebay/images/STORE-6105-0004.JPG)


    Anyone know what these might be?

    actually know that I look at it appears to be some sort of splash guard covered swtich

    That is definitely a splash guard. Switches seem to have square stems which is common with RAFI switches, so maybe one of those? Could be completly wrong though.

    Given the size and shape of the switch (look at how tall it appears to be and the shape of the stem, not just the square), I'm almost 100% sure it's not RAFI.  My guess is that it's some sort of dome or membrane switch.
    backlit, square stem, splash guard, very nice plate: looks like cortronics rubber dome to me (first clue was that keycap printing / font)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:51:18
    what mean industrial ibm?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:58:51
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:51:18
    what mean industrial ibm?
    It's the color of the case:
    (http://webwit.nl/input/ibm_industrial/1388032-2.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 16 November 2014, 12:03:30
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:58:51
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:51:18
    what mean industrial ibm?
    It's the color of the case:
    Show Image
    (http://webwit.nl/input/ibm_industrial/1388032-2.jpg)

    yup, but i want to know the history i heard because ibm dont have mold,not sure
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 12:09:35
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 16 November 2014, 12:03:30
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:58:51
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:51:18
    what mean industrial ibm?
    It's the color of the case:
    Show Image
    (http://webwit.nl/input/ibm_industrial/1388032-2.jpg)

    yup, but i want to know the history i heard because ibm dont have mold,not sure
    (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/173/576/Wat8.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 16 November 2014, 12:46:44
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 15 November 2014, 17:21:35
    what program can i use to remap Caps Lock to FN? tried KeyTweak and it doesn't support remapping to FN (windows 8.1)

    For this you will have to do it at the firmware level so a programmable keyboard will be required.  The reason is because there is no actual scan code for function.  This is handled 100% at the keyboards hardware level. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 16 November 2014, 12:48:05
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 12:09:35
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 16 November 2014, 12:03:30
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:58:51
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:51:18
    what mean industrial ibm?
    It's the color of the case:
    Show Image
    (http://webwit.nl/input/ibm_industrial/1388032-2.jpg)

    yup, but i want to know the history i heard because ibm dont have mold,not sure
    Show Image
    (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/173/576/Wat8.jpg)

    :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 16 November 2014, 12:48:20
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 16 November 2014, 12:46:44
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 15 November 2014, 17:21:35
    what program can i use to remap Caps Lock to FN? tried KeyTweak and it doesn't support remapping to FN (windows 8.1)

    For this you will have to do it at the firmware level so a programmable keyboard will be required.  The reason is because there is no actual scan code for function.  This is handled 100% at the keyboards hardware level.

    ++

    You could also do it at a hardware level, but that's a lot harder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 November 2014, 13:59:31
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 15 November 2014, 17:21:35
    what program can i use to remap Caps Lock to FN? tried KeyTweak and it doesn't support remapping to FN (windows 8.1)
    Does auto hot key work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 16 November 2014, 14:24:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 16 November 2014, 13:59:31
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sat, 15 November 2014, 17:21:35
    what program can i use to remap Caps Lock to FN? tried KeyTweak and it doesn't support remapping to FN (windows 8.1)
    Does auto hot key work?

    I don't think any software solution will work when attempting to change anything from or two Fn due to Fn not having a scancode for the OS to even read.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 16 November 2014, 15:02:36
    really intriguing. so when you use FN on a keyboard laptop, how does the OS interpret it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 16 November 2014, 16:12:33
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 16 November 2014, 15:02:36
    really intriguing. so when you use FN on a keyboard laptop, how does the OS interpret it?

    It doesn't. The FN key is keyboard internal functionality. The keyboard in a laptop works the same as a normal keyboard, if you check out your attached devices you will usually find it as a PS/2 keyboard in the list.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:17:44
    Are these GMK?  If so, would someone mind proxying an order for me?  Thx...

    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_blu_shift
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:18:54
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:17:44
    Are these GMK?  If so, would someone mind proxying an order for me?  Thx...

    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_blu_shift
    Yep. They really don't ship to Canada? I could proxy it for you
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:35:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:18:54
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:17:44
    Are these GMK?  If so, would someone mind proxying an order for me?  Thx...

    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_blu_shift
    Yep. They really don't ship to Canada? I could proxy it for you

    Yes, they ship to Canada, but I usually end up spending something like $20-$50 in customs on every order.  Unlike MK, the shipping option is only $8, so I might actually just try it and see how bad I get hit (for future reference).  The order will be under $50, so I will just try it and see if I get dinged and how bad it is...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 23:29:48
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:35:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:18:54
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:17:44
    Are these GMK?  If so, would someone mind proxying an order for me?  Thx...

    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_blu_shift
    Yep. They really don't ship to Canada? I could proxy it for you

    Yes, they ship to Canada, but I usually end up spending something like $20-$50 in customs on every order.  Unlike MK, the shipping option is only $8, so I might actually just try it and see how bad I get hit (for future reference).  The order will be under $50, so I will just try it and see if I get dinged and how bad it is...
    Well let me know if you ever need stuff proxied :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 23:38:40
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 23:29:48
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:35:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:18:54
    Quote from: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:17:44
    Are these GMK?  If so, would someone mind proxying an order for me?  Thx...

    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_blu_shift
    Yep. They really don't ship to Canada? I could proxy it for you

    Yes, they ship to Canada, but I usually end up spending something like $20-$50 in customs on every order.  Unlike MK, the shipping option is only $8, so I might actually just try it and see how bad I get hit (for future reference).  The order will be under $50, so I will just try it and see if I get dinged and how bad it is...
    Well let me know if you ever need stuff proxied :thumb:

    Thanks, I really appreciate it.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DrHubblePhD on Mon, 17 November 2014, 06:15:14
    Does anyone have a link to the reprogramming software for the 356 mini?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 17 November 2014, 18:02:31
    Where can i find a 5.5 mm nut driver?
    I need to open up my model m and i don't know which ones will be able to reach down there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 0100010 on Mon, 17 November 2014, 18:46:42
    Any thin wall 5.5mm or 7/32" thin wall nut driver will work.  The key is the thin wall.  Clickykeyboards used to carry them, but don't see any in stock there.

    Another option : http://www.amazon.com/Wiha-26556-Precision-Driver-Inch/dp/B000O5ILWA
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 17 November 2014, 19:15:57
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-7-32-Hex-Nut-Driver-61-104-Brown-Handle-FREE-SHIPPING-/191100444203?pt=US_Hand_Tools&hash=item2c7e795e2b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-7-32-Hex-Nut-Driver-61-104-Brown-Handle-FREE-SHIPPING-/191100444203?pt=US_Hand_Tools&hash=item2c7e795e2b)

    This is a better one, but it may not ship to Canada for free.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 19:22:12
    Will F XT internals fit inside a Bigfoot version of the F?  My logic here is this might be an easier way to try the F switches inside the bigfoot case than trying to actually get the bigfoot internals working.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 17 November 2014, 19:58:19
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 17 November 2014, 19:15:57
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-7-32-Hex-Nut-Driver-61-104-Brown-Handle-FREE-SHIPPING-/191100444203?pt=US_Hand_Tools&hash=item2c7e795e2b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-7-32-Hex-Nut-Driver-61-104-Brown-Handle-FREE-SHIPPING-/191100444203?pt=US_Hand_Tools&hash=item2c7e795e2b)

    This is a better one, but it may not ship to Canada for free.

    What is better about this nut driver?
    If there is enough of a benefit, then I will consider it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 21:09:18
    So I was attempting to bind Print Screen to my Orbweaver as the JD40 does not have it.  It would not work with attempting to do it with the on screen keyboard on Win 8.1.  Would this be a limitation of the Synapse software or could it be partly due to how Print Screen interacts with the OS, as most of the keys in that cluster wouldn't work either. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 November 2014, 21:58:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 21:09:18
    So I was attempting to bind Print Screen to my Orbweaver as the JD40 does not have it.  It would not work with attempting to do it with the on screen keyboard on Win 8.1.  Would this be a limitation of the Synapse software or could it be partly due to how Print Screen interacts with the OS, as most of the keys in that cluster wouldn't work either.

    I'm guessing it's a Synapse thing. You can only program it as much as that program will let you :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 22:02:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 November 2014, 21:58:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 21:09:18
    So I was attempting to bind Print Screen to my Orbweaver as the JD40 does not have it.  It would not work with attempting to do it with the on screen keyboard on Win 8.1.  Would this be a limitation of the Synapse software or could it be partly due to how Print Screen interacts with the OS, as most of the keys in that cluster wouldn't work either.

    I'm guessing it's a Synapse thing. You can only program it as much as that program will let you :(.

    Probably.  Say any idea if F XT internals will fit into a BigFoot F case??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 November 2014, 22:14:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 22:02:41
    Say any idea if F XT internals will fit into a BigFoot F case??

    I don't even have a guess. However if you PM Haata, Parak, or dorkvader, I'm sure you can get a proper answer. Sorry I couldn't be of further help :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 17 November 2014, 22:32:52
    what tool for test switches still active/not?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 November 2014, 22:34:00
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 17 November 2014, 22:32:52
    what tool for test switches still active/not?
    Multimeter, aqua key test, EKs switch hitter program.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 17 November 2014, 23:32:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 November 2014, 22:14:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 22:02:41
    Say any idea if F XT internals will fit into a BigFoot F case??

    I don't even have a guess. However if you PM Haata, Parak, or dorkvader, I'm sure you can get a proper answer. Sorry I couldn't be of further help :(

    I think they will, but don't have a "bigfoot" to test (always wanted to get one but the current candidate on eBay is too expensive for me and broken to boot!)

    You can just use soarer's converter though. It's supposed to work.

    edit: I have no idea where I read that and have not yet substantiated it with research. Will have to do more looking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 23:34:11
    Use soarers on the XT or the BigFoot?  I was under the impression that it won't work on the bigfoot due to not having a controller on board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 17 November 2014, 23:38:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 23:34:11
    Use soarers on the XT or the BigFoot?  I was under the impression that it won't work on the bigfoot due to not having a controller on board.
    edit: here
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48950.msg1224258#msg1224258

    He says he got it working with soarers.

    It does not have a controller on the board but does have a thing that helps to interpret the capacitive matrix, so it was easy for him to convert.

    side note: the schematic of this KB was instrumental in figuring out how to make a capacitive controller for general model F use.

    edit: note this is his KB controller code, not protocol converter code.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Mon, 17 November 2014, 23:38:09
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 15 November 2014, 02:06:09
    2x3x4 is brighter and, IMO, has a better diffuse glow.  The 1.8mm has a weird heavy concentric glow with heavy falloff on the edges.  That said, both are nice, but it you want bright, 2x3x4 is the way to go.

    And, for the record, I've used TA PBT, Cherry caps, and others with no issue with 2x3x4.  I think it's mainly Imsto that has issues with it.

    Thanks for the reply. I will definitely go with 2x3x4 ones then :P

    Gotta have max glows + pair it up with clear switch tops!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 23:46:02
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 17 November 2014, 23:38:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 17 November 2014, 23:34:11
    Use soarers on the XT or the BigFoot?  I was under the impression that it won't work on the bigfoot due to not having a controller on board.
    edit: here
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48950.msg1224258#msg1224258

    He says he got it working with soarers.

    It does not have a controller on the board but does have a thing that helps to interpret the capacitive matrix, so it was easy for him to convert.

    side note: the schematic of this KB was instrumental in figuring out how to make a capacitive controller for general model F use.

    edit: note this is his KB controller code, not protocol converter code.

    So essentially all I need for hardware is a teensy, some wire and a cable from teensy to PC then, correct?  Just wire it up, load the firmware and away I go.  Or is it a touch more involved than that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:21:23
    When desoldering plate mount Cherry MX switches, what's the best way to get the switches out without damaging the plate or switch housing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SavvyBird on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:22:13
    Why is the hhkb called the "happy hacking" keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 06:16:02
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:21:23
    When desoldering plate mount Cherry MX switches, what's the best way to get the switches out without damaging the plate or switch housing?

    I flip the plate over and push out the switches with my thumbs.

    Quote from: carinaguts on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:22:13
    Why is the hhkb called the "happy hacking" keyboard.

    That's what PFU and Wada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Hacking_Keyboard) decided to name it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KeyZero on Tue, 18 November 2014, 08:30:16
    For the Poker II, is it possible to map arrow keys where Right Alt/Right Win/Menu/ Ctrl is and move caps lock around? I presume other buttons like media control on my V60 (Back/Play/Pause/Forward) can be mapped as well as Print Screen and other keys too? I see there's a certain key limit but I don't think I'll hit/need that for mapping but it's good to know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 November 2014, 08:33:34
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:21:23
    When desoldering plate mount Cherry MX switches, what's the best way to get the switches out without damaging the plate or switch housing?

    To save thumbs I use a rubberized screwdriver (or other small tool) handle to push them out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:49:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 06:16:02
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:21:23
    When desoldering plate mount Cherry MX switches, what's the best way to get the switches out without damaging the plate or switch housing?

    I flip the plate over and push out the switches with my thumbs.

    Quote from: carinaguts on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:22:13
    Why is the hhkb called the "happy hacking" keyboard.

    That's what PFU and Wada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Hacking_Keyboard) decided to name it?


    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 November 2014, 08:33:34
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:21:23
    When desoldering plate mount Cherry MX switches, what's the best way to get the switches out without damaging the plate or switch housing?

    To save thumbs I use a rubberized screwdriver (or other small tool) handle to push them out.

    What about the little  plastic latches that hold the switches to the plate? Trying to pinch those in is going to scratch the top of the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:53:41
    Quote
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 November 2014, 08:33:34
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:21:23
    When desoldering plate mount Cherry MX switches, what's the best way to get the switches out without damaging the plate or switch housing?

    To save thumbs I use a rubberized screwdriver (or other small tool) handle to push them out.

    What about the little  plastic latches that hold the switches to the plate? Trying to pinch those in is going to scratch the top of the plate.


    It's just pressure fit and just pops out. I've never seen damage done to the top of the plate. Also depending on the plate some switches almost fall out on there own.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:58:56
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:49:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 06:16:02
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:21:23
    When desoldering plate mount Cherry MX switches, what's the best way to get the switches out without damaging the plate or switch housing?

    I flip the plate over and push out the switches with my thumbs.

    Quote from: carinaguts on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:22:13
    Why is the hhkb called the "happy hacking" keyboard.

    That's what PFU and Wada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Hacking_Keyboard) decided to name it?


    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 November 2014, 08:33:34
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 05:21:23
    When desoldering plate mount Cherry MX switches, what's the best way to get the switches out without damaging the plate or switch housing?

    To save thumbs I use a rubberized screwdriver (or other small tool) handle to push them out.

    What about the little  plastic latches that hold the switches to the plate? Trying to pinch those in is going to scratch the top of the plate.

    As Ray mentioned, a lot of plates are thick enough that those latches don't actually snap in, but I know that GON notches his plates in the back to make the plate thinner and thus allow them to actually snap in.  He also makes a neat little tool (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/others/135-cherry-switch-puller.html) that can be used to remove switches easily.  I suspect this is what you're looking for.  If you aren't buying a keyboard from him, shipping will be really expensive, so you may have to look into building your own or some other alternative.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:59:23
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:49:24
    What about the little  plastic latches that hold the switches to the plate? Trying to pinch those in is going to scratch the top of the plate.

    Pinch? You just push them out. It's a press fit. I doubt that plastic will scratch the plate and I've never scratched a plate like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:02:25
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:58:56
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:49:24
    What about the little  plastic latches that hold the switches to the plate? Trying to pinch those in is going to scratch the top of the plate.

    As Ray mentioned, a lot of plates are thick enough that those latches don't actually snap in, but I know that GON notches his plates in the back to make the plate thinner and thus allow them to actually snap in.  He also makes a neat little tool (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/others/135-cherry-switch-puller.html) that can be used to remove switches easily.  I suspect this is what you're looking for.  If you aren't buying a keyboard from him, shipping will be really expensive, so you may have to look into building your own or some other alternative.

    Another thing to add to my list to buy one day, even though I doubt I need it. Thanks for the info Hoff, hadn't seen this before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:09:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:59:23
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:49:24
    What about the little  plastic latches that hold the switches to the plate? Trying to pinch those in is going to scratch the top of the plate.

    Pinch? You just push them out. It's a press fit. I doubt that plastic will scratch the plate and I've never scratched a plate likt hat.

    So once the switch is desoldered it will just slide out without having to push in those plastic latches on the top side of the plate?

    After I desoldered the switches those little plastic clips still held the switches in pretty strong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:11:55
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:09:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:59:23
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:49:24
    What about the little  plastic latches that hold the switches to the plate? Trying to pinch those in is going to scratch the top of the plate.

    Pinch? You just push them out. It's a press fit. I doubt that plastic will scratch the plate and I've never scratched a plate likt hat.

    So once the switch is desoldered it will just slide out without having to push in those plastic latches on the top side of the plate?

    After I desoldered the switches those little plastic clips still held the switches in pretty strong.

    I've desoldered at least three boards with plates now? I desolder them, separate the plate/switches from the PCB, then push all the switches out by hand. I don't pinch or push anything in terms of the switches.

    What plastic latches are you referring to on the plate? Can you take a picture?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:18:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:11:55
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:09:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:59:23
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 09:49:24
    What about the little  plastic latches that hold the switches to the plate? Trying to pinch those in is going to scratch the top of the plate.

    Pinch? You just push them out. It's a press fit. I doubt that plastic will scratch the plate and I've never scratched a plate likt hat.

    So once the switch is desoldered it will just slide out without having to push in those plastic latches on the top side of the plate?

    After I desoldered the switches those little plastic clips still held the switches in pretty strong.

    I've desoldered at least three boards with plates now? I desolder them, separate the plate/switches from the PCB, then push all the switches out by hand. I don't pinch or push anything in terms of the switches.

    What plastic latches are you referring to on the plate? Can you take a picture?

    Okay thanks.

    I'm not separating the plate from the PCB. I'm trying to take them out one at a time right after a switch is desoldered.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:29:18
    I use an IC extractor (I think that's what the tool was called) to pull Cherry switches, using it to pop the tabs on the top/bottom of the switch and pull the switch out through the plate. I've used it on about 3 boards so far and not damaged a single plate (2x anodised Phantom plates and 1 stock Filco plate). I guess if you were worried about scratching the plate you could wrap the ends of the tool in masking tape or something? Or even mask the plate I guess.

    The reason I don't poke them through the plate once the board has been desoldered anymore is that one time I put a screwdriver through the palm of my hand trying to get a particularly stubborn switch out...

    edit - this is the tool I use
    http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/ic-extraction-tool-fd54j
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 12:01:00
    Quote from: Hzza on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:29:18
    I use an IC extractor (I think that's what the tool was called) to pull Cherry switches, using it to pop the tabs on the top/bottom of the switch and pull the switch out through the plate. I've used it on about 3 boards so far and not damaged a single plate (2x anodised Phantom plates and 1 stock Filco plate). I guess if you were worried about scratching the plate you could wrap the ends of the tool in masking tape or something? Or even mask the plate I guess.

    The reason I don't poke them through the plate once the board has been desoldered anymore is that one time I put a screwdriver through the palm of my hand trying to get a particularly stubborn switch out...

    edit - this is the tool I use
    http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/ic-extraction-tool-fd54j

    I actually think I have some of those.

    Thanks for the tip.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 12:08:31
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 12:01:00

    I would love to hear back from you as to which method worked best for you. Just because I did it one way doesn't make that the ideal way. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 14:18:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 12:08:31
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 12:01:00

    I would love to hear back from you as to which method worked best for you. Just because I did it one way doesn't make that the ideal way. :)

    Okay, will do  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 18 November 2014, 14:24:55
    Is it possible to replace costar stabilizers on a board with cherry stabilizers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 14:36:15
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 18 November 2014, 14:24:55
    Is it possible to replace costar stabilizers on a board with cherry stabilizers?

    It might be a little hard. Jdcarpe has custom plates which have both the Costar and Cherry stabilizer holes. The Costar slots are a bit thinner and longer than the Cherry ones. If you could weld/epoxy enough material for the stabilizers to sit in, you might be able to do it. I'm leaning towards a probably not worth the time but it's definitely possible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 19 November 2014, 02:58:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 November 2014, 12:08:31
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 November 2014, 12:01:00

    I would love to hear back from you as to which method worked best for you. Just because I did it one way doesn't make that the ideal way. :)

    Well I did happen to have an old IC extractor, and I have to say it was the easiest method for me. 

    I just couldn't get the switches to pop out with out pressing those little plastic tabs that secure them to the plate.  I probably could have, but I didn't feel comfortable using that much force. 

    Still ended up getting a few scratches on the top of the plate though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 06:19:46
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 19 November 2014, 02:58:19
    I just couldn't get the switches to pop out with out pressing those little plastic tabs that secure them to the plate.  I probably could have, but I didn't feel comfortable using that much force. 

    Still ended up getting a few scratches on the top of the plate though.

    I still don't understand what plastic tabs you're referring to. Did you happen to take a picture?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Wed, 19 November 2014, 06:25:29
    Above the "Cherry" logo and below the LED slot on the sides of the switch are 2 little plastic tabs that click into (I think) 1.6mm thick plates to hold the switches in place.

    You can see the front one in that picture (http://deskthority.net/w/images/0/0b/Cherry_MX_front.jpg).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 06:31:12
    Quote from: Hzza on Wed, 19 November 2014, 06:25:29
    Above the "Cherry" logo and below the LED slot on the sides of the switch are 2 little plastic tabs that click into (I think) 1.6mm thick plates to hold the switches in place.

    You can see the front one in that picture (http://deskthority.net/w/images/0/0b/Cherry_MX_front.jpg).

    Ohhh, you mean those little legs that you solder into the PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:11:38
    Nope, circled.

    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:18:19
    Quote from: Hzza on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:11:38
    Nope, circled.

    (Attachment Link)

    Huh...I've never had a problem with those. That's interesting though. Thanks Hzza.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:52:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:18:19
    Quote from: Hzza on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:11:38
    Nope, circled.

    (Attachment Link)

    Huh...I've never had a problem with those. That's interesting though. Thanks Hzza.

    As I said above, some plates are thick enough that those never actually snap around the plate, and it ends up being a "press fit" as you described.  On a plate slightly thinner (GON plates with the notches, for example), they will snap in and make it harder to get the switch out.  I would say that *most* custom plates that we order in steel and aluminum end up being on the thicker end, but that's conjecture / my experiences only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 08:12:05
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:52:07
    As I said above, some plates are thick enough that those never actually snap around the plate, and it ends up being a "press fit" as you described.  On a plate slightly thinner (GON plates with the notches, for example), they will snap in and make it harder to get the switch out.  I would say that *most* custom plates that we order in steel and aluminum end up being on the thicker end, but that's conjecture / my experiences only.

    I know that you posted that but I didn't comprehend what exactly was being snapped in until Hzza posted the picture.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 November 2014, 08:13:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 08:12:05
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:52:07
    As I said above, some plates are thick enough that those never actually snap around the plate, and it ends up being a "press fit" as you described.  On a plate slightly thinner (GON plates with the notches, for example), they will snap in and make it harder to get the switch out.  I would say that *most* custom plates that we order in steel and aluminum end up being on the thicker end, but that's conjecture / my experiences only.

    I know that you posted that but I didn't comprehend what exactly was being snapped in until Hzza posted the picture.

    This helped me understand what was going on


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 08:20:39
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 November 2014, 08:13:37
    This helped me understand what was going on



    Thanks :). Wish that youtube workaround would happen soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:18:37
    What is the advantage of a programmable keyboard?  I use autohotkey to change the function of some keys, seems good enough.  Only drawback I can think is that if I'm using my keyboard on another computer it's not already preconfigured.  So what is the draw of programmable keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:36:22
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:18:37
    What is the advantage of a programmable keyboard?  I use autohotkey to change the function of some keys, seems good enough.  Only drawback I can think is that if I'm using my keyboard on another computer it's not already preconfigured.  So what is the draw of programmable keyboards?

    I've never used Autohotkey myself but I think autohotkey doesn't have every function a programmable board could have. For example, I can setup multiple layers on my 6019284. Apparently, as I understand it, you cannot program function layers in Autohotkey?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:37:31
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:18:37
    Only drawback I can think is that if I'm using my keyboard on another computer it's not already preconfigured.

    That's exactly what the advantage is. You also don't need to run any other software in the background and often program LEDs which is kinda cool.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:36:22
    I've never used Autohotkey myself but I think autohotkey doesn't have every function a programmable board could have. For example, I can setup multiple layers on my 6019284. Apparently, as I understand it, you cannot program function layers in Autohotkey?

    You can kind of. It works better on a hardware layer though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 19 November 2014, 14:55:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:18:19
    Quote from: Hzza on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:11:38
    Nope, circled.

    (Attachment Link)

    Huh...I've never had a problem with those. That's interesting though. Thanks Hzza.

    Yep,  those things  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 19 November 2014, 15:20:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:18:19
    Quote from: Hzza on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:11:38
    Nope, circled.

    (Attachment Link)

    Huh...I've never had a problem with those. That's interesting though. Thanks Hzza.

    I had some issues with them on my QFR.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Wed, 19 November 2014, 19:32:28
    Anybody know what dimensions the bottom row of a Filco Minila is?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 19 November 2014, 21:17:58
    Quote from: MGH on Wed, 19 November 2014, 19:32:28
    Anybody know what dimensions the bottom row of a Filco Minila is?

    1.75x -> 1.25x -> 1.25x -> 1.25x -> 3x -> 1.25x -> 1.25x -> 1x -> 1x -> 1x ->1x
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Wed, 19 November 2014, 21:26:42
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 19 November 2014, 21:17:58
    Quote from: MGH on Wed, 19 November 2014, 19:32:28
    Anybody know what dimensions the bottom row of a Filco Minila is?

    1.75x -> 1.25x -> 1.25x -> 1.25x -> 3x -> 1.25x -> 1.25x -> 1x -> 1x -> 1x ->1x
    Gracias
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Thu, 20 November 2014, 01:21:05
    Does the color/profile/thickness of Ivan R2 match that of a IMSTO classic beige PBT set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: henz on Thu, 20 November 2014, 03:27:36
    Can i get retail mx lock switches form anywhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:24:41
    Quote from: minho on Thu, 20 November 2014, 01:21:05
    Does the color/profile/thickness of Ivan R2 match that of a IMSTO classic beige PBT set?

    I honestly thought that imsto made those caps but I'm mistaken (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.msg1141575#msg1141575).

    Quote from: henz on Thu, 20 November 2014, 03:27:36
    Can i get retail mx lock switches form anywhere?

    I thought online-components had them for sale.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:30:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:24:41
    I honestly thought that imsto made those caps but I'm mistaken (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.msg1141575#msg1141575).
    Am I missing something?

    Imsto did make Ivan's R2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:32:08
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:30:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:24:41
    I honestly thought that imsto made those caps but I'm mistaken (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.msg1141575#msg1141575).
    Am I missing something?

    Imsto did make Ivan's R2

    Is that post referring to that R2 buy or another discussion within the thread? I only glanced through that page before posting and could have misunderstood. And thanks...I knew I wasn't going crazy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:34:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:32:08
    Is that post referring to that R2 buy or another discussion within the thread? I only glanced through that page before posting and could have misunderstood. And thanks...I knew I wasn't going crazy.
    It's referring to requests for beige fulltouch caps locks made by imsto, I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:36:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:32:08
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:30:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:24:41
    I honestly thought that imsto made those caps but I'm mistaken (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.msg1141575#msg1141575).
    Am I missing something?

    Imsto did make Ivan's R2

    Is that post referring to that R2 buy or another discussion within the thread? I only glanced through that page before posting and could have misunderstood. And thanks...I knew I wasn't going crazy.

    That discussion was about getting the correct color fulltouch capslock key re-ran/remade since they made it in the wrong color but the factory/imsto wasn't interested in doing it.

    ninja'd by photekq but posting anyways as confirmation  8)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:36:52
    Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:34:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:32:08
    Is that post referring to that R2 buy or another discussion within the thread? I only glanced through that page before posting and could have misunderstood. And thanks...I knew I wasn't going crazy.
    It's referring to requests for beige fulltouch caps locks made by imsto, I think.

    Ok. So then my initial gut thought is correct according to photekq. imsto made Ivan's R2 so it will match imsto's classic beige PBT set. Thanks photekq for confirming that I'm not crazy yet ;).

    Quote from: minho on Thu, 20 November 2014, 01:21:05
    Does the color/profile/thickness of Ivan R2 match that of a IMSTO classic beige PBT set?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:40:21
    can i get cherry spring retail anywhere?
    how make switch smooth not friction sst, can i use oil tamiya?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:42:37
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:40:21
    1) can i get cherry spring retail anywhere?
    2) how make switch smooth not friction sst,
    3) can i use oil tamiya?

    1) Just the spring? No.
    2) A quick Google search yields:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59041.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0
    3) Can you use that specific oil? I don't know. But you can do an experiment and tell us what you think of it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:48:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:42:37
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:40:21
    1) can i get cherry spring retail anywhere?
    2) how make switch smooth not friction sst, can i use oil tamiya?

    1) Just the spring? No.
    2) A quick Google search yields:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59041.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0
    yes, why? what size spring cherry(dimension)?
     :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:49:21
    Quote from: yasuo on Thu, 20 November 2014, 06:48:44
    yes, why? what size spring cherry(dimension)?
     :thumb:

    Why can't you just buy the springs? Don't know. Probably because only a small percentage of mechanical keyboard users (which are already a small percentage of the market), are swapping springs so no one thinks of stocking them for sale.

    And I don't know the dimensions off hand. I'm sure they're out there if you look hard enough and you can always take the measurements yourself. There are aftermarket springs so obviously someone has the measurements and suppliers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: minho on Thu, 20 November 2014, 10:53:41
    Sorry, another question about IMSTO's sets - does his beige set differ significantly from BSP's PBT beige sets in terms of shape or color?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 20 November 2014, 15:14:32
    Quote from: minho on Thu, 20 November 2014, 10:53:41
    Sorry, another question about IMSTO's sets - does his beige set differ significantly from BSP's PBT beige sets in terms of shape or color?

    Not really. His beige is more grey than BSPs, but I think it just depends on the light.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 15:31:42
    Quote from: minho on Thu, 20 November 2014, 10:53:41
    Sorry, another question about IMSTO's sets - does his beige set differ significantly from BSP's PBT beige sets in terms of shape or color?

    These pictures may help. And this thread might be useful. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58094.0)

    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/products/IMG_0258_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383597186)
    (http://imsto.cn/image/data/BSP/peacock1.JPG)
    BSP

    (http://cdn.overclock.net/3/3c/900x900px-LL-3c14dd29_hangul02.jpeg)
    Imsto

    Profile? It depends. If it's from imsto, I think they're closer to OEM profile...or at least the set I had was OEM. Apparently according to eyesmiles (http://www.overclock.net/g/i/1362098/filco-majestouch-2-modified-to-cherry-mx-panda-clears-vortex-aluminum-grey-case-imsto-thick-pbt-keycaps-cherry-height-cherry-font-combination-of-2-sets-grey-white-w-red-hangul-legends-ek-grey-cc-skull/), his set is Cherry profile which is the same as BSP. If they're blank BSP caps that imsto is dye-subbing? Then obviously they'll be the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Thu, 20 November 2014, 15:34:14
    Quote from: minho on Thu, 20 November 2014, 10:53:41
    Sorry, another question about IMSTO's sets - does his beige set differ significantly from BSP's PBT beige sets in terms of shape or color?
    Colour - yes. They are very different shades for certain.

    Profile - No, except the bottom row. Imstos thick PBTs are Cherry profile, as are BSPs. However, Imstos bottom row is B-profile, while BSPs is A-profile [A-profile is much more steep].
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sorn on Thu, 20 November 2014, 19:43:56
    Question for all the knowledgeable users of this forum. As I am looking into modding a mechanical keyboard of my own and would like to swap out springs without needing to solder, what options are out there currently in terms of PCB mounted keyboards? And if anyone has a custom low activation force keyboard, I'd love to hear of it!

    Thank you kindly,

    Sorn

    MOD EDIT: Please don't post Want To Buys outside the classifieds.  Please also read the Classifieds Rules: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56284.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 November 2014, 21:16:09
    Quote from: Sorn on Thu, 20 November 2014, 19:43:56
    What options are out there currently in terms of PCB mounted keyboards?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29253.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42342.0

    Quote from: Sorn on Thu, 20 November 2014, 19:43:56
    And if anyone has a custom low activation force keyboard for sale, I'd love to hear of it!

    Please don't use this thread as the classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 21 November 2014, 04:27:44
    On that last pic (Imsto), I don't think those are his beige mods. I think those mods are from a different, all-gray set he did. The beige may be grayer than BSP beige, but it's not that gray.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 November 2014, 06:22:47
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 21 November 2014, 04:27:44
    On that last pic (Imsto), I don't think those are his beige mods. I think those mods are from a different, all-gray set he did. The beige may be grayer than BSP beige, but it's not that gray.

    I welcome you to find more pictures because I find that "grayer" is not a very good descriptor. I think that "grayer" and "depends on lighting" are not very helpful. I tried looking for a proper picture of the imsto sets but came up short :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 21 November 2014, 07:26:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 November 2014, 06:22:47
    I find that "grayer" is not a very good descriptor.

    At the minimum there is "warm" gray and "cool" gray.

    Beyond that, there is saturated gray that feels like a real color, and unsaturated gray that just looks like dingy white.

    IBM's color "pebble" is a strong saturated warm gray that is a very handsome color. IBM's industrial cases are probably called "gray" but that color has strong undertones of green and brown in it as well.

    And my Toyota Camry is called "gray" but it is distinctly brown!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: argcargv on Fri, 21 November 2014, 10:00:41
    I just order a FMJ type 2 case, now,
    1. I read that the FMJ case fits GH60 pcb but does it also support a metal plate + the pcb?
    2. how do I acquire a GH60 pcb with a metal plate to go with the case?

    Thanks! Much appreciated!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 November 2014, 10:02:25
    Quote from: argcargv on Fri, 21 November 2014, 10:00:41
    1. I read that the FMJ case fits GH60 pcb but does it also support a metal plate + the pcb?
    2. how do I acquire a GH60 pcb with a metal plate to go with the case?

    1) Yes
    2) Wait for the GB, see if anyone is selling theirs in the classifieds, or see if those Taobao sellers still have the Rev B PCBs. But the rev B has some issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 21 November 2014, 10:09:18
    when i glued switch on acrylic plate wth super glue i can remove they with gasoline.etc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 November 2014, 10:14:38
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 21 November 2014, 10:09:18
    when i glued switch on acrylic plate wth super glue i can remove they with gasoline.etc

    Check out this link (http://www.supergluecorp.com/removingsuperglue.html).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: argcargv on Fri, 21 November 2014, 10:23:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 November 2014, 10:02:25
    Quote from: argcargv on Fri, 21 November 2014, 10:00:41
    1. I read that the FMJ case fits GH60 pcb but does it also support a metal plate + the pcb?
    2. how do I acquire a GH60 pcb with a metal plate to go with the case?

    1) Yes
    2) Wait for the GB, see if anyone is selling theirs in the classifieds, or see if those Taobao sellers still have the Rev B PCBs. But the rev B has some issues.

    Thank you CPTBadAss!
    I'll wait for a GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Sat, 22 November 2014, 01:32:29
    Can someone tell me what the cheapest ergonomic mechanical keyboard is?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 November 2014, 08:34:58
    Quote from: MGH on Sat, 22 November 2014, 01:32:29
    Can someone tell me what the cheapest ergonomic mechanical keyboard is?
    Cheapest one I've picked up is a Chicony KB7001 for $2.

    But I think the Kinesis boards or Maltese can be found for under $100   on eBay iirc. And there's the new uniquek keyboard for $130. Binge posted that in the ergonomics subforum.

    Edit: link for uniquek = https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65719.msg1537586.msg#1537586
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 22 November 2014, 21:22:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 November 2014, 06:22:47
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 21 November 2014, 04:27:44
    On that last pic (Imsto), I don't think those are his beige mods. I think those mods are from a different, all-gray set he did. The beige may be grayer than BSP beige, but it's not that gray.

    I welcome you to find more pictures because I find that "grayer" is not a very good descriptor. I think that "grayer" and "depends on lighting" are not very helpful. I tried looking for a proper picture of the imsto sets but came up short :(.

    I think it's the difference between these two. The mods in that pic are from the second set here. Compare to the gray in the first pic, which is the standard gray in his gray/beige sets, and looks more like the Cherry/ BSP color.

    (http://i.imgur.com/fh0ra89.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/1ROZKw5.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FRD on Sun, 23 November 2014, 03:04:09
    ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 23 November 2014, 12:29:06
    Quote from: FRD on Sun, 23 November 2014, 03:04:09
    Anyone have any idea where should i look for Topre short-throw keyboards (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_short-throw_keyboards), expect Yahoo Auctions Japan?

    I seriously doubt you'll find one outside of Japan.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: crunch on Mon, 24 November 2014, 07:17:28
    Hi. Does this have ALPS switches.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 November 2014, 07:20:56
    Quote from: crunch on Mon, 24 November 2014, 07:17:28
    Hi. Does this have ALPS switches.

    Can you get the person to pull a cap off? Or show a picture of the back if there's a label with some model information on it? It's really hard to tell from that picture.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: crunch on Mon, 24 November 2014, 07:25:10
    Sorry I have tried to ask but he is afraid he will break something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 November 2014, 07:26:45
    Quote from: crunch on Mon, 24 November 2014, 07:25:10
    Sorry I have tried to ask but he is afraid he will break something.

    I couldn't even begin to guess what that might be. Perhaps someone else will recognize it and can help you out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Mon, 24 November 2014, 09:12:59
    Hi,

    I 'm sorry i've searched for this information but couldn't find it, if i want to build a custom plate for a keyboard i'm building, which metal should i choose? aluminium, steel, stainless-steel?

    Also if i may, what is the cheapest option to build a custom case? (ABS or metal)

    Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 November 2014, 09:19:49
    Quote from: Kaibz on Mon, 24 November 2014, 09:12:59
    1) If i want to build a custom plate for a keyboard i'm building, which metal should i choose? aluminium, steel, stainless-steel?

    2) what is the cheapest option to build a custom case? (ABS or metal)

    1) Whichever you prefer. I like stainless' weight over aluminum.

    2) ABS is cheaper if you've got access to the equipment. An acrylic or polycarb case is probably cheaper for a custom one off board. Metal will cost more but I prefer metal cases. One off metal cases are pricey. Last quote I received for a 60% board I helped design was $400 including materials.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Mon, 24 November 2014, 09:27:06
    Thank you CptBadAss !

    One last question, do you think stainless would also be more "sturdy"? (i mean less prone to slightly bend as you put pressure on it?)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 November 2014, 09:28:24
    Quote from: Kaibz on Mon, 24 November 2014, 09:27:06
    Do you think stainless would also be more "sturdy"? (i mean less prone to slightly bend as you put pressure on it?)

    In my opinion? For the grades of aluminum I've seen used in plates, they aren't as sturdy as the stainless steel plates I've seen. I have a TKL Aluminum plate. It's...ok. But I much prefer the stainless steel plates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Mon, 24 November 2014, 09:31:59
    Excellent ! I'll go with stainless steel.

    Thank you so much for your help!

    Cheers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 24 November 2014, 11:48:20
    is there any cheap SA keycap set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 November 2014, 12:13:17
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 24 November 2014, 11:48:20
    is there any cheap SA keycap set?
    I thought the Filco sphericals was cheap. But it depends on what cheap means to you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 November 2014, 17:28:18
    Quote from: Kaibz on Mon, 24 November 2014, 09:31:59
    Excellent ! I'll go with stainless steel.

    Thank you so much for your help!

    Cheers.

    In addition to my comments, I highly recommend TechPriest's thoughts on making a keyboard plate (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65978.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 24 November 2014, 17:43:43
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 24 November 2014, 11:48:20
    is there any cheap SA keycap set?


    Nuclear Data Green (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/nuclear-data-green-old-skool-sa-row-3-keycaps/) was $64 for a full set (plus extra speciality sets).

    Was that around the price you were thinking?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Tue, 25 November 2014, 08:35:39
    not sure if this is a simple question...

    I recently got to try a new board (MX Clear stem, 62 gram springs, stickered, lubed with GPL 205, on a KMAC)
    it was surprisingly smooth, felt very much like browns except a bit heavier and more tactile. thing is, I also have a 62 gram ergo clear board I put together myself. (mx clear stems, 62 gram springs, not stickered, lubed with GPL 201, on QFR)
    There is a HUGE difference between the 2 boards, the one I have feels a lot more clunky and friction-y, the switch doesn't bounce back up as smooth as the other one. I'm so confused, is it JUST because of the lube difference? what's going on?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 25 November 2014, 08:50:16
    Quote from: phx on Tue, 25 November 2014, 08:35:39
    not sure if this is a simple question...

    I recently got to try a new board (MX Clear stem, 62 gram springs, stickered, lubed with GPL 205, on a KMAC)
    it was surprisingly smooth, felt very much like browns except a bit heavier and more tactile. thing is, I also have a 62 gram ergo clear board I put together myself. (mx clear stems, 62 gram springs, not stickered, lubed with GPL 201, on QFR)
    There is a HUGE difference between the 2 boards, the one I have feels a lot more clunky and friction-y, the switch doesn't bounce back up as smooth as the other one. I'm so confused, is it JUST because of the lube difference? what's going on?

    The case and how worn/used the switches were before lube was applied, or even which batch the switches came from can have profound impacts of the feel of the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 25 November 2014, 08:54:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 24 November 2014, 12:13:17
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 24 November 2014, 11:48:20
    is there any cheap SA keycap set?
    I thought the Filco sphericals was cheap. But it depends on what cheap means to you.

    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 24 November 2014, 17:43:43
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 24 November 2014, 11:48:20
    is there any cheap SA keycap set?


    Nuclear Data Green (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/nuclear-data-green-old-skool-sa-row-3-keycaps/) was $64 for a full set (plus extra speciality sets).

    Was that around the price you were thinking?
    yeah, different mean cheap :))

    spacing with qwerkywriter keycap is differnt?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 November 2014, 17:48:42
    Quote from: yasuo on Tue, 25 November 2014, 08:54:10
    spacing with qwerkywriter keycap is differnt?

    Yes

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65280.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: argcargv on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:04:25
    I have a question about Click Clacks:

    1. I have collected 3 topre depth black clacks, I noticed that there are slight color variations between the three. I've read somewhere that color variation is normal.
    2. One of the clack sits a noticeably taller on the keyboard than the other two, is this normal?

    Ann all three clacks comes with the CF stamp.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:16:29
    Quote from: argcargv on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:04:25
    1. I have collected 3 topre depth black clacks, I noticed that there are slight color variations between the three. I've read somewhere that color variation is normal.
    2. One of the clack sits a noticeably taller on the keyboard than the other two, is this normal?

    1) What is your question? Are you asking if color variation is normal or simply commenting on that?
    2) I don't think so. All the ones I've seen are the same profile. Are you sure the cap is seated correctly?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: argcargv on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:51:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:16:29
    Quote from: argcargv on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:04:25
    1. I have collected 3 topre depth black clacks, I noticed that there are slight color variations between the three. I've read somewhere that color variation is normal.
    2. One of the clack sits a noticeably taller on the keyboard than the other two, is this normal?

    1) What is your question? Are you asking if color variation is normal or simply commenting on that?
    2) I don't think so. All the ones I've seen are the same profile. Are you sure the cap is seated correctly?

    1) Sorry my first question is whether all black clacks have the same black color?
    2) I am pretty sure, I will upload pictures soon.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 November 2014, 21:07:21
    Quote from: argcargv on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:51:38
    Quote from: argcargv on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:04:25
    I have collected 3 topre depth black clacks, I noticed that there are slight color variations between the three. I've read somewhere that color variation is normal.

    Sorry my first question is whether all black clacks have the same black color?

    No, check out the Post your Clacks thread for more examples of when black isn't really black.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: argcargv on Tue, 25 November 2014, 21:37:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 November 2014, 21:07:21
    Quote from: argcargv on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:51:38
    Quote from: argcargv on Tue, 25 November 2014, 20:04:25
    I have collected 3 topre depth black clacks, I noticed that there are slight color variations between the three. I've read somewhere that color variation is normal.

    Sorry my first question is whether all black clacks have the same black color?

    No, check out the Post your Clacks thread for more examples of when black isn't really black.

    thanks!

    More picks here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66057.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jevvix on Wed, 26 November 2014, 00:50:49
    I have two keyboards: Cherry MY1800 and MY7000 that I harvested the caps from. Do people have any use for the remaining 'carcasses' of these or should I just recycle them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 26 November 2014, 01:19:16
    Quote from: jevvix on Wed, 26 November 2014, 00:50:49
    I have two keyboards: Cherry MY1800 and MY7000 that I harvested the caps from. Do people have any use for the remaining 'carcasses' of these or should I just recycle them?
    Well, if they're just standard G81s, then there's really no remaining use for them. Sometimes the boards have interesting cases that people keep, and unless you for some reason like cherry MY there really isn't much reason to hang on to them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Wed, 26 November 2014, 07:55:07
    A friend of mine has 4 stickey keys (1,2,A,S) and I'm asking for him if there is an easy way for him to clean them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:04:15
    Quote from: katushkin on Wed, 26 November 2014, 07:55:07
    A friend of mine has 4 stickey keys (1,2,A,S) and I'm asking for him if there is an easy way for him to clean them?

    I'll assume he has a mechanical keyboard. You can try putting a little isopropyl alcohol into the switches. Make sure it's 91% or 99% if you can get it. Then press it a bunch then put some rice over it and let it dry. I find isopropyl is really good for most cleaning applications in keyboards.

    You can also just try taking the cap off, and blowing some compressed air or vacuuming the switch out to get any dust or anything else out.

    If you think the sticky keys are caused by a drink of some sort, /r/MK has some guides (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/keyboardmaintenanceguides#wiki_keyboard_spill_recovery_guides) and Geekhack has multiple threads on how to clean spills (http://site:geekhack.org how to clean a keyboard spill).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:12:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:04:15
    Quote from: katushkin on Wed, 26 November 2014, 07:55:07
    A friend of mine has 4 stickey keys (1,2,A,S) and I'm asking for him if there is an easy way for him to clean them?

    I'll assume he has a mechanical keyboard. You can try putting a little isopropyl alcohol into the switches. Make sure it's 91% or 99% if you can get it. Then press it a bunch then put some rice over it and let it dry. I find isopropyl is really good for most cleaning applications in keyboards.

    You can also just try taking the cap off, and blowing some compressed air or vacuuming the switch out to get any dust or anything else out.

    If you think the sticky keys are caused by a drink of some sort, /r/MK has some guides (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/keyboardmaintenanceguides#wiki_keyboard_spill_recovery_guides) and Geekhack has multiple threads on how to clean spills (http://site:geekhack.org how to clean a keyboard spill).

    Sorry, yeah, it's a Ducky with Browns and he spilled coffee on it which somehow got 3 LEDs, that didn't work, to work again.

    I shall inform him, thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:34:50
    [attachimg=1]
    is this handwiring no problem?
    the wire diode light grey soldered on front switch? :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:37:06
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:34:50
    (Attachment Link)
    is this handwiring no problem?

    As long as the diodes look like these from matt3o (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html), I don't see why the diodes can't be horizontal instead of vertical.

    Edit: See below.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Euf0ria on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:37:35
    Big problem, your diodes are in series but they need to be in parallell.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:40:46
    Quote from: Euf0ria on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:37:35
    Big problem, your diodes are in series but they need to be in parallell.

    Yep.  To put that in layman's terms, the diode leads should connect "after" the diodes, not before.  If that makes sense.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:43:36
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:40:46
    Quote from: Euf0ria on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:37:35
    Big problem, your diodes are in series but they need to be in parallell.

    Yep.  To put that in layman's terms, the diode leads should connect "after" the diodes, not before.  If that makes sense.

    Please disregard my previous post. Thanks for the info guys :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Euf0ria on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:44:37
    (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39367418/Tangentbord%20Teeny%20engineer/11%20-%20matrix_wiring/matrix_rows%20%286%29.jpg)
    Take a look at this and copy it and you'll be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:45:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:37:06
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:34:50
    (Attachment Link)
    is this handwiring no problem?

    As long as the diodes look like these from matt3o (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html), I don't see why the diodes can't be horizontal instead of vertical.
    yup, finally i use matt3o style
    but its already soldered :-X its no problem when in firmware?
    Quote from: Euf0ria on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:37:35
    Big problem, your diodes are in series but they need to be in parallell.
      thk info btw the problem is diode light gray(picture) soldered in front switch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:46:59
    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:45:35
    thk info btw the problem is diode light soldered in front switch

    What do you mean by this? It doesn't make much sense to me.

    Quote from: yasuo on Wed, 26 November 2014, 08:45:35
    but its already soldered :-X its no problem when in firmware?

    Better desolder it because it will cause problems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spremino on Wed, 26 November 2014, 09:35:18
    Does the Cherry eVolution STREAM XT have scissor-switch keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 November 2014, 09:47:53
    Quote from: spremino on Wed, 26 November 2014, 09:35:18
    Does the Cherry eVolution STREAM XT have scissor-switch keys?

    It sure looks and sounds like it does (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSsmLf3O2Hk). I would guess yes based on the youtube videos I found.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:01:26
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:12:43
    Quote from: spremino on Wed, 26 November 2014, 09:35:18
    Does the Cherry eVolution STREAM XT have scissor-switch keys?

    Yes, it does.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: crunch on Wed, 26 November 2014, 18:26:11
    Could this be mechanical. Chicony KB-6011

    (http://i.imgur.com/u072P6bs.jpg) (http://imgur.com/u072P6b)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 26 November 2014, 22:01:44
    Show Image
    Quote from: crunch on Wed, 26 November 2014, 18:26:11
    Could this be mechanical. Chicony KB-6011

    (http://i.imgur.com/u072P6bs.jpg) (http://imgur.com/u072P6b)

    Entirely possible. DT wiki doesn't have an article on it so I can't say if you don't take off a keycap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 26 November 2014, 22:18:45
    Is a MX or ALPS switch still usable if one of the pins breaks half way off?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Wed, 26 November 2014, 22:23:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 26 November 2014, 22:18:45
    Is a MX or ALPS switch still usable if one of the pins breaks half way off?

    If you mean the length of the pin is shortened by half then it should still work, it just needs to be able to have contact to the pad. But this is assuming that the inside of the switch is still fine if the pin broke from being moved too violently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 26 November 2014, 23:36:40
    Quote from: moralles on Wed, 26 November 2014, 22:23:18
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 26 November 2014, 22:18:45
    Is a MX or ALPS switch still usable if one of the pins breaks half way off?

    If you mean the length of the pin is shortened by half then it should still work, it just needs to be able to have contact to the pad. But this is assuming that the inside of the switch is still fine if the pin broke from being moved too violently.

    Okay thanks. So as long as there is enough of the pin in the hole for the solder to reach it should be fine?

    When I desoldered some ALPS switches  some of them were bent over, and after getting them out some broke where the bend was.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 November 2014, 06:02:02
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 26 November 2014, 23:36:40
    Okay thanks. So as long as there is enough of the pin in the hole for the solder to reach it should be fine?

    When I desoldered some ALPS switches  some of them were bent over, and after getting them out some broke where the bend was.

    Yup, that's correct. You could try "extending" the leg by putting in a clipped diode leg or something similar. But I've had the exact same thing happen to me and it worked out fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 27 November 2014, 07:43:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 November 2014, 06:02:02
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 26 November 2014, 23:36:40
    Okay thanks. So as long as there is enough of the pin in the hole for the solder to reach it should be fine?

    When I desoldered some ALPS switches  some of them were bent over, and after getting them out some broke where the bend was.

    Yup, that's correct. You could try "extending" the leg by putting in a clipped diode leg or something similar. But I've had the exact same thing happen to me and it worked out fine.

    Cool, thanks  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 27 November 2014, 18:52:49
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 27 November 2014, 07:43:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 November 2014, 06:02:02
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 26 November 2014, 23:36:40
    Okay thanks. So as long as there is enough of the pin in the hole for the solder to reach it should be fine?

    When I desoldered some ALPS switches  some of them were bent over, and after getting them out some broke where the bend was.

    Yup, that's correct. You could try "extending" the leg by putting in a clipped diode leg or something similar. But I've had the exact same thing happen to me and it worked out fine.

    Cool, thanks  :)

    If there is enough leg to reach into the hole I wouldn't worry about trying to solder an extension in.  The reason being when you go to solder the switch in the solder from the leg to the extension will probably let go.  I think my suggestion would probably be just fill the hole.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 27 November 2014, 23:58:30
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 27 November 2014, 18:52:49
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 27 November 2014, 07:43:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 November 2014, 06:02:02
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 26 November 2014, 23:36:40
    Okay thanks. So as long as there is enough of the pin in the hole for the solder to reach it should be fine?

    When I desoldered some ALPS switches  some of them were bent over, and after getting them out some broke where the bend was.

    Yup, that's correct. You could try "extending" the leg by putting in a clipped diode leg or something similar. But I've had the exact same thing happen to me and it worked out fine.

    Cool, thanks  :)

    If there is enough leg to reach into the hole I wouldn't worry about trying to solder an extension in.  The reason being when you go to solder the switch in the solder from the leg to the extension will probably let go.  I think my suggestion would probably be just fill the hole.

    Yeah I was just going to just fill the hole.   I don't have any diodes.  What else would work for extending the pins?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 28 November 2014, 01:47:40
    how to make keycap yellowing at least like cream chesee?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 28 November 2014, 04:45:02
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 28 November 2014, 01:47:40
    how to make keycap yellowing at least like cream chesee?

    Dye (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66084.0)?  Although not as much as in that thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 28 November 2014, 09:14:04


    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 27 November 2014, 23:58:30
    Yeah I was just going to just fill the hole.   I don't have any diodes.  What else would work for extending the pins?

    Completely stripped wire.

    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 28 November 2014, 01:47:40
    how to make keycap yellowing at least like cream chesee?
    I'm assuming you're asking to de-yellow caps. Retro Brite or dye may work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 28 November 2014, 10:52:16
    Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 28 November 2014, 04:45:02
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 28 November 2014, 01:47:40
    how to make keycap yellowing at least like cream chesee?

    Dye (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66084.0)?  Although not as much as in that thread.
    interisting, though so yellow
    is smoke can make yellowing?
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 28 November 2014, 01:47:40
    how to make keycap yellowing at least like cream chesee?
    I'm assuming you're asking to de-yellow caps. Retro Brite or dye may work.
    [/quote]yup, i want make yellowing caps at least like ccng color
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 November 2014, 01:53:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 28 November 2014, 09:14:04


    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 27 November 2014, 23:58:30
    Yeah I was just going to just fill the hole.   I don't have any diodes.  What else would work for extending the pins?

    Completely stripped wire.

    I have some old useless wallwart and telephone cables lying around.  If I cut and strip one of them would that work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 29 November 2014, 09:27:39
    It's possible, but much easier with solid core wire like a paperclip.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Daniel Beardsmore on Sat, 29 November 2014, 13:58:13
    Show Image
    Quote from: crunch on Wed, 26 November 2014, 18:26:11
    Could this be mechanical. Chicony KB-6011

    (http://i.imgur.com/u072P6bs.jpg) (http://imgur.com/u072P6b)

    It's the same FCC ID as the Unikey KWD-601:

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Unikey_KWD-601

    I don't know what happened there — either Chicony bought out Nan Tan's keyboard assets when Clevo acquired them, or Chicony cloned the Nan Tan KB-6251, as it's exactly the same (shape, feet, screw holes, everything) but just with Chicony's choice of switches and a Chicony controller, and registered to Unikey Electronics Co Ltd with the FCC instead of Nan Tan (or Chicony for that matter).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: crunch on Sat, 29 November 2014, 14:17:18
    Yes thank you Beardsmore, I just found out my self about it. Here is a video that looks like the same keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 November 2014, 14:49:25
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 29 November 2014, 09:27:39
    It's possible, but much easier with solid core wire like a paperclip.

    What gauge wire would you recommend?   I can really just use a paperclip?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 November 2014, 15:09:10
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 November 2014, 14:49:25
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 29 November 2014, 09:27:39
    It's possible, but much easier with solid core wire like a paperclip.

    What gauge wire would you recommend?   I can really just use a paperclip?
    If you're having this much trouble finding something to use, I can just send you some hookup wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 November 2014, 16:28:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 November 2014, 15:09:10
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 November 2014, 14:49:25
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 29 November 2014, 09:27:39
    It's possible, but much easier with solid core wire like a paperclip.

    What gauge wire would you recommend?   I can really just use a paperclip?
    If you're having this much trouble finding something to use, I can just send you some hookup wire.

    Knowing the exact name and gauge wire to get would help me more in case I have to get some in the future.

    Or if you could post a link to something you recommend.   Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 29 November 2014, 18:40:16
    Where can one buy one of those cardboard keyset boxes? I can't remember for the life of me remember where I bought it the first time
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 November 2014, 19:46:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 29 November 2014, 18:40:16
    Where can one buy one of those cardboard keyset boxes? I can't remember for the life of me remember where I bought it the first time

    Are you talking about these  http://www.keypop.net/product/keycap-display-case (http://www.keypop.net/product/keycap-display-case)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 November 2014, 22:06:59
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 November 2014, 16:28:27
    Knowing the exact name and gauge wire to get would help me more in case I have to get some in the future.

    Or if you could post a link to something you recommend.   Thanks.

    I think I've got 18 gauge or awg hookup wire. Sold at various stores that sell electronics, microcenter, Radio Shack, Home Depot, and Lowes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 29 November 2014, 22:12:31
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 November 2014, 19:46:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 29 November 2014, 18:40:16
    Where can one buy one of those cardboard keyset boxes? I can't remember for the life of me remember where I bought it the first time

    Are you talking about these  http://www.keypop.net/product/keycap-display-case (http://www.keypop.net/product/keycap-display-case)
    Yes! Thank you
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 29 November 2014, 23:23:48
    that one is foam / cardboard. I have one (from Boost, I think there was a GB) that is only cardboard.

    Thanks for that bytheway, I think I'll have to pick up one or two (depending on shipping) to better display the sets I'm not using.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Sun, 30 November 2014, 02:09:55
    how to apply file to teensy w/ soarer controller
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 30 November 2014, 09:03:13
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 30 November 2014, 02:09:55
    how to apply file to teensy w/ soarer controller

    Soarers/docs/index/tools something like that. What I am telling you is incomplete from my memory.

    When you run Teensy.exe (from pjrc) it will ask you for a hex file. If you point it to soarers "atmega32" it should take care of the rest automatically.

    This is all in Soarer's excellent documentation but you may have to dig around a bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Sun, 30 November 2014, 09:18:39
    In my KBC Poker II from time to time (like once in a week of so) some keys become completely unresponsive for no apparent reason, and the only way to sove is to replug the keyboard. Or maybe I am just accidentally hitting some PN or similar key..?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:21:53
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Sun, 30 November 2014, 09:18:39
    In my KBC Poker II from time to time (like once in a week of so) some keys become completely unresponsive for no apparent reason, and the only way to sove is to replug the keyboard. Or maybe I am just accidentally hitting some PN or similar key..?
    It might just be a problem with the soldering and unplugging and re-plugging is just a coincidence
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:52:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:21:53
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Sun, 30 November 2014, 09:18:39
    In my KBC Poker II from time to time (like once in a week of so) some keys become completely unresponsive for no apparent reason, and the only way to sove is to replug the keyboard. Or maybe I am just accidentally hitting some PN or similar key..?
    It might just be a problem with the soldering and unplugging and re-plugging is just a coincidence

    What you mean coincidence? If I unplug and re-plug keyboard, then it will work fine again. I am not really sure what you mean.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:55:42
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:52:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:21:53
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Sun, 30 November 2014, 09:18:39
    In my KBC Poker II from time to time (like once in a week of so) some keys become completely unresponsive for no apparent reason, and the only way to sove is to replug the keyboard. Or maybe I am just accidentally hitting some PN or similar key..?
    It might just be a problem with the soldering and unplugging and re-plugging is just a coincidence

    What you mean coincidence? If I unplug and re-plug keyboard, then it will work fine again. I am not really sure what you mean.
    Like every single time that is what absolutely corrects it without a doubt? I was just saying that it might be a problem with the soldering and the keys might work for a little bit after unplugging it by coincidence. Though if that's what's fixing it, I'm not really sure. Does your hand ever accidentally rest on the FN key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 30 November 2014, 11:23:09
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 30 November 2014, 09:03:13
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 30 November 2014, 02:09:55
    how to apply file to teensy w/ soarer controller

    Soarers/docs/index/tools something like that. What I am telling you is incomplete from my memory.

    When you run Teensy.exe (from pjrc) it will ask you for a hex file. If you point it to soarers "atmega32" it should take care of the rest automatically.

    This is all in Soarer's excellent documentation but you may have to dig around a bit.


    once the soarer's code is on the teensy, you add the file with the following
    open a command line
    make sure the file is the layout and options you want
    navigate the the /tools directory (where scinfo, scdis scas and scwr are locatied)
    run scas <filename.sc>
    run scwr <filename>

    If you are in windows you can just run scaswr <filename.sc>

    I put my layout.sc file in the/tools directory of the soarer install to make things easy.

    The above info is also in the HTML documentation, but it's a little hard to understand sometimes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kblavkalash on Sun, 30 November 2014, 11:24:40
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:55:42
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:52:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:21:53
    Quote from: Kblavkalash on Sun, 30 November 2014, 09:18:39
    In my KBC Poker II from time to time (like once in a week of so) some keys become completely unresponsive for no apparent reason, and the only way to sove is to replug the keyboard. Or maybe I am just accidentally hitting some PN or similar key..?
    It might just be a problem with the soldering and unplugging and re-plugging is just a coincidence

    What you mean coincidence? If I unplug and re-plug keyboard, then it will work fine again. I am not really sure what you mean.
    Like every single time that is what absolutely corrects it without a doubt? I was just saying that it might be a problem with the soldering and the keys might work for a little bit after unplugging it by coincidence. Though if that's what's fixing it, I'm not really sure. Does your hand ever accidentally rest on the FN key?

    Ahh that's what you mean. I am 100% sure something is messed up and re-plugging resets keyboard or whatever it does and everything works again every single time. I use FN key a lot for everything, so yes I may hit it many times even accidentally. But I think maybe it's because I accidentally press PN key and turn on programming mode or something. I mean I don't really care, just want to make sure it's not a defective keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rainb1ood on Sun, 30 November 2014, 13:14:02
    Hi, I'm trying to find an up to date (or latest) information regarding which lube/oil to use for Ergoclear mod with 62g gold korean spring, is it still the krytox GPL-205 or will the lube kit by mkawa be enough
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 November 2014, 13:36:44


    Quote from: rainb1ood on Sun, 30 November 2014, 13:14:02
    Hi, I'm trying to find an up to date (or latest) information regarding which lube/oil to use for Ergoclear mod with 62g gold korean spring, is it still the krytox GPL-205 or will the lube kit by mkawa be enough

    Mkawa's kit is krytox. So either option will be fine
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rainb1ood on Sun, 30 November 2014, 13:41:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 November 2014, 13:36:44


    Quote from: rainb1ood on Sun, 30 November 2014, 13:14:02
    Hi, I'm trying to find an up to date (or latest) information regarding which lube/oil to use for Ergoclear mod with 62g gold korean spring, is it still the krytox GPL-205 or will the lube kit by mkawa be enough

    Mkawa's kit is krytox. So either option will be fine

    Thanks Cap! Also last question:

    Quote
    This kit is made for switches to enhance your typing experience. There are 2 different mixes: Thick and Thin. Thick lube is made for tactile switches where as thin lube is made for linear switches.

    In mkawa's kit sold at techkeys, it says thin is made for linear switches while thick is made for tactile, since thick is out of stock, is the Thin kit going to have a different effect on ergoclear or is it just the same thing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 November 2014, 18:00:22
    Quote from: rainb1ood on Sun, 30 November 2014, 13:41:23
    In mkawa's kit sold at techkeys, it says thin is made for linear switches while thick is made for tactile, since thick is out of stock, is the Thin kit going to have a different effect on ergoclear or is it just the same thing?

    They're different viscosities so they're not the same. MK.com and ctrl alt sells the kits too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 18:51:53
    Are there any differences with a polycarb plate as opposed to a metal plate? Does one feel better than the other?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rainb1ood on Sun, 30 November 2014, 19:56:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 November 2014, 18:00:22
    MK.com and ctrl alt sells the kits too.

    Yep, my only problem now is that both techkeys, mk.com, ctrlalt are out of stock on 'Thick' kits (for tactile switches)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:05:04
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 18:51:53
    Are there any differences with a polycarb plate as opposed to a metal plate? Does one feel better than the other?

    Thanks!
    The main difference would be in metal's weight (heavier) and less flex than polycarb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:26:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:05:04
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 18:51:53
    Are there any differences with a polycarb plate as opposed to a metal plate? Does one feel better than the other?

    Thanks!
    The main difference would be in metal's weight (heavier) and less flex than polycarb

    In terms of feel, are there any differences though? Thanks for your input!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:33:52
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:26:23

    In terms of feel, are there any differences though? Thanks for your input!

    To me the metal case makes the typing experience feel more solid. The polycarbonate can flex and yield while typing, which to me feels less solid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:03:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:33:52
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:26:23

    In terms of feel, are there any differences though? Thanks for your input!

    To me the metal case makes the typing experience feel more solid. The polycarbonate can flex and yield while typing, which to me feels less solid.

    Ah okay, thanks! I was curious as I'm complementing whether if I should get a poly carb plate for my KMAC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:09:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:03:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:33:52
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:26:23

    In terms of feel, are there any differences though? Thanks for your input!

    To me the metal case makes the typing experience feel more solid. The polycarbonate can flex and yield while typing, which to me feels less solid.

    Ah okay, thanks! I was curious as I'm contemplating whether if I should get a poly carb plate for my KMAC.
    Definitely go for a metal plate if you're dropping that much on a nice keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:18:58
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:09:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:03:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:33:52
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:26:23

    In terms of feel, are there any differences though? Thanks for your input!

    To me the metal case makes the typing experience feel more solid. The polycarbonate can flex and yield while typing, which to me feels less solid.

    Ah okay, thanks! I was curious as I'm contemplating whether if I should get a poly carb plate for my KMAC.
    Definitely go for a metal plate if you're dropping that much on a nice keyboard

    I second this motion and would like to add if going with a KMAC I would go with a steel/stainless plate over aluminum, though with a TKL the difference isn't as noticeable as on a full sized board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:26:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:18:58
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:09:30
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 22:03:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:33:52
    Quote from: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:26:23

    In terms of feel, are there any differences though? Thanks for your input!

    To me the metal case makes the typing experience feel more solid. The polycarbonate can flex and yield while typing, which to me feels less solid.

    Ah okay, thanks! I was curious as I'm contemplating whether if I should get a poly carb plate for my KMAC.
    Definitely go for a metal plate if you're dropping that much on a nice keyboard

    I second this motion and would like to add if going with a KMAC I would go with a steel/stainless plate over aluminum, though with a TKL the difference isn't as noticeable as on a full sized board
    Or if you want to go all out: titanium
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Tue, 02 December 2014, 01:39:13
    Is Ducky Shine Zero TKL and Ducky Shine TKL 2/3 the only backlit TKL keyboards that fit in those aluminum cases? Also does anyone know if the Novatouch can fit in a Aluminum case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 02 December 2014, 02:14:16
    What is the stem spacing like on a 6x Cherry spacebar? If I put Novatouch parts in a FC660C, will a Cherry 6x work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 02 December 2014, 02:22:42
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 02 December 2014, 02:14:16
    What is the stem spacing like on a 6x Cherry spacebar?
    Three keymounts, one middle mount 0.5 units (9.525mm) right from centre, left 3 units (57.15mm) and right 2 units (38.1mm) apart from middle mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 December 2014, 08:12:15


    Quote from: MGH on Tue, 02 December 2014, 01:39:13
    1) Is Ducky Shine Zero TKL and Ducky Shine TKL 2/3 the only backlit TKL keyboards that fit in those aluminum cases?
    2) Also does anyone know if the Novatouch can fit in a Aluminum case?

    1) I think the rapid I would fit into a TEX TKL set.
    2) I don't know offhand. I don't have a TKL case to test this idea with. But I wonder if it would fit into a digilog case or if it was similar enough to a QFR that it'd fit a QFR compatible case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 03:46:44
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 02 December 2014, 02:22:42
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 02 December 2014, 02:14:16
    What is the stem spacing like on a 6x Cherry spacebar?
    Three keymounts, one middle mount 0.5 units (9.525mm) right from centre, left 3 units (57.15mm) and right 2 units (38.1mm) apart from middle mount.

    Thanks... sounds like it won't work, since Topre has equidistant stem spacing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 16:55:59
    I might be getting a mech with a 4P4C connector soon. I know you can use a Teensy with Soarer's firmware, but are there any easier ways to convert it? Ideally I'd like to do so without soldering since I don't really have the time or availability (can't solder in my dorm without setting off fire alarm). I don't know much about the board other than it is an Altos using Cherry MX Blacks with a 4P4C modular connector.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 03 December 2014, 16:58:42
    Quote from: MGH on Tue, 02 December 2014, 01:39:13
    Is Ducky Shine Zero TKL and Ducky Shine TKL 2/3 the only backlit TKL keyboards that fit in those aluminum cases? Also does anyone know if the Novatouch can fit in a Aluminum case?

    those won't fit IIRC

    and no the novatouch doesn't have any alu case options yet
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Wed, 03 December 2014, 17:19:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 December 2014, 08:12:15


    Quote from: MGH on Tue, 02 December 2014, 01:39:13
    1) Is Ducky Shine Zero TKL and Ducky Shine TKL 2/3 the only backlit TKL keyboards that fit in those aluminum cases?
    2) Also does anyone know if the Novatouch can fit in a Aluminum case?

    1) I think the rapid I would fit into a TEX TKL set.
    2) I don't know offhand. I don't have a TKL case to test this idea with. But I wonder if it would fit into a digilog case or if it was similar enough to a QFR that it'd fit a QFR compatible case.

    Hmm ok, I will look out for a rapid I

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 03 December 2014, 16:58:42
    Quote from: MGH on Tue, 02 December 2014, 01:39:13
    Is Ducky Shine Zero TKL and Ducky Shine TKL 2/3 the only backlit TKL keyboards that fit in those aluminum cases? Also does anyone know if the Novatouch can fit in a Aluminum case?

    those won't fit IIRC

    and no the novatouch doesn't have any alu case options yet

    Aww, guess Rapid I is my only option
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 03 December 2014, 17:33:50
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 16:55:59
    I might be getting a mech with a 4P4C connector soon.

    I have a beautiful board with a 4P4C connector that I would love to somehow rig up.

    Since I have limited time, I have not delved into it too deeply, yet, but I would love to know how you do it, if you are successful.

    I have a multimeter, but I have some doubts that I would trust your pinout. Mine is a Televideo.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 03 December 2014, 22:54:38
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 03 December 2014, 17:33:50
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 16:55:59
    I might be getting a mech with a 4P4C connector soon.

    I have a beautiful board with a 4P4C connector that I would love to somehow rig up.

    Since I have limited time, I have not delved into it too deeply, yet, but I would love to know how you do it, if you are successful.

    I have a multimeter, but I have some doubts that I would trust your pinout. Mine is a Televideo.



    I have same 4p4c televideo. WYSE also used 4p4c as well as (I think) IBM.

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 16:55:59
    I might be getting a mech with a 4P4C connector soon. I know you can use a Teensy with Soarer's firmware, but are there any easier ways to convert it? Ideally I'd like to do so without soldering since I don't really have the time or availability (can't solder in my dorm without setting off fire alarm). I don't know much about the board other than it is an Altos using Cherry MX Blacks with a 4P4C modular connector.

    anyway: I can't think of a way to get it working unless you solder. Most likely a WYSE board under a different brand though. (there's lots).

    Also: I know from lots of experience (and 2 years in the society of Fire protection enginnering club) that you can indeed solder inside the dorms without setting off the fire alarm. Or just go to someone's apartment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 December 2014, 22:58:00
    Does anyone know how to change the lighting mode on a Leeku PCB? I tried using Esc + Home. I have my Leeku 1800 in hand but I don't know how to change the lighting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Thu, 04 December 2014, 00:15:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 December 2014, 22:58:00
    Does anyone know how to change the lighting mode on a Leeku PCB? I tried using Esc + Home. I have my Leeku 1800 in hand but I don't know how to change the lighting.

    Try this CPT:

    FN = Pause

    Pause = FN + Scroll Lock

    LED Control = FN + Esc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 December 2014, 06:16:09
    Quote from: infiniti on Thu, 04 December 2014, 00:15:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 December 2014, 22:58:00
    Does anyone know how to change the lighting mode on a Leeku PCB? I tried using Esc + Home. I have my Leeku 1800 in hand but I don't know how to change the lighting.

    Try this CPT:

    FN = Pause

    Pause = FN + Scroll Lock

    LED Control = FN + Esc

    This works like a charm. Thanks infiniti!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 04 December 2014, 10:23:31
    Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 03 December 2014, 22:54:38
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 03 December 2014, 17:33:50
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 16:55:59
    I might be getting a mech with a 4P4C connector soon.

    I have a beautiful board with a 4P4C connector that I would love to somehow rig up.

    Since I have limited time, I have not delved into it too deeply, yet, but I would love to know how you do it, if you are successful.

    I have a multimeter, but I have some doubts that I would trust your pinout. Mine is a Televideo.



    I have same 4p4c televideo. WYSE also used 4p4c as well as (I think) IBM.

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 03 December 2014, 16:55:59
    I might be getting a mech with a 4P4C connector soon. I know you can use a Teensy with Soarer's firmware, but are there any easier ways to convert it? Ideally I'd like to do so without soldering since I don't really have the time or availability (can't solder in my dorm without setting off fire alarm). I don't know much about the board other than it is an Altos using Cherry MX Blacks with a 4P4C modular connector.

    anyway: I can't think of a way to get it working unless you solder. Most likely a WYSE board under a different brand though. (there's lots).

    Also: I know from lots of experience (and 2 years in the society of Fire protection enginnering club) that you can indeed solder inside the dorms without setting off the fire alarm. Or just go to someone's apartment.

    Yeah, at the same time the smoke detector is right over my desk... And I don't wanna have to move my bed, dresser, and desk to fix that. Plus I'm not very experienced with solder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Geoph on Thu, 04 December 2014, 18:29:41
    Could cigarette smoke/ash cause problems with cherry switches? At random some of my keys start becoming unresponsive so I clean them with some 99% isopropyl and everything works just fine for a while. Also, should I re-lube my switches after using isopropyl?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:30:10
    Quote from: Geoph on Thu, 04 December 2014, 18:29:41
    Could cigarette smoke/ash cause problems with cherry switches? At random some of my keys start becoming unresponsive so I clean them with some 99% isopropyl and everything works just fine for a while. Also, should I re-lube my switches after using isopropyl?

    It is possible.  I have replaced CPU fans from a computer that was in a bar for a few years.  The fan was so gummed up with tar that it wouldn't spin at all.  I refused to even allow bar computers into my house after that cause it took 3 weeks for the smell to vacate my house and I smoked at the time though not in my house.  Cigarette smoke will also destroy pretty much any electronics that have active cooling fans as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:33:23
    Quote from: Geoph on Thu, 04 December 2014, 18:29:41
    Could cigarette smoke/ash cause problems with cherry switches? At random some of my keys start becoming unresponsive so I clean them with some 99% isopropyl and everything works just fine for a while. Also, should I re-lube my switches after using isopropyl?

    absolutely possible

    like you said, 99% isopropyl will clean it out to some degree

    you shouldn't be smoking at your keyboard anyway though, it yellows white plastics, and the ash gets all up in your fans
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:34:45
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:33:23
    Quote from: Geoph on Thu, 04 December 2014, 18:29:41
    Could cigarette smoke/ash cause problems with cherry switches? At random some of my keys start becoming unresponsive so I clean them with some 99% isopropyl and everything works just fine for a while. Also, should I re-lube my switches after using isopropyl?

    absolutely possible

    like you said, 99% isopropyl will clean it out to some degree

    you shouldn't be smoking at your keyboard anyway though, it yellows white plastics, and the ash gets all up in your fans

    Not to mention the tar makes the ash stick to everything that much more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:35:54
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:34:45
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:33:23
    Quote from: Geoph on Thu, 04 December 2014, 18:29:41
    Could cigarette smoke/ash cause problems with cherry switches? At random some of my keys start becoming unresponsive so I clean them with some 99% isopropyl and everything works just fine for a while. Also, should I re-lube my switches after using isopropyl?

    absolutely possible

    like you said, 99% isopropyl will clean it out to some degree

    you shouldn't be smoking at your keyboard anyway though, it yellows white plastics, and the ash gets all up in your fans

    Not to mention the tar makes the ash stick to everything that much more.

    yeah, it's not nice to computer

    i'm not gonna say don't smoke, make your own choices and all that

    just don't do it in front of a computer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:41:52
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:35:54
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:34:45
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:33:23
    Quote from: Geoph on Thu, 04 December 2014, 18:29:41
    Could cigarette smoke/ash cause problems with cherry switches? At random some of my keys start becoming unresponsive so I clean them with some 99% isopropyl and everything works just fine for a while. Also, should I re-lube my switches after using isopropyl?

    absolutely possible

    like you said, 99% isopropyl will clean it out to some degree

    you shouldn't be smoking at your keyboard anyway though, it yellows white plastics, and the ash gets all up in your fans

    Not to mention the tar makes the ash stick to everything that much more.

    yeah, it's not nice to computer

    i'm not gonna say don't smoke, make your own choices and all that

    just don't do it in front of a computer

    Pretty much my sentiments as well.  I personally recently quit smoking myself using a good e-cig after smoking for 15+ years.  In those years I never smoked in my own home.  Couldn't stand my house smelling like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:51:34
    a few of my friends smoke, but i don't because i don't want my clothes to smell

    that's literally the only reason, but it's important to me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 04 December 2014, 22:38:18
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 30 November 2014, 11:23:09
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 30 November 2014, 09:03:13
    Quote from: yasuo on Sun, 30 November 2014, 02:09:55
    how to apply file to teensy w/ soarer controller

    Soarers/docs/index/tools something like that. What I am telling you is incomplete from my memory.

    When you run Teensy.exe (from pjrc) it will ask you for a hex file. If you point it to soarers "atmega32" it should take care of the rest automatically.

    This is all in Soarer's excellent documentation but you may have to dig around a bit.


    once the soarer's code is on the teensy, you add the file with the following
    open a command line
    make sure the file is the layout and options you want
    navigate the the /tools directory (where scinfo, scdis scas and scwr are locatied)
    run scas <filename.sc>
    run scwr <filename>

    If you are in windows you can just run scaswr <filename.sc>

    I put my layout.sc file in the/tools directory of the soarer install to make things easy.

    The above info is also in the HTML documentation, but it's a little hard to understand sometimes.
    my teensy broken i use pro micro now
    i cant open scas/scwr when i click its not showup
    yup im in windows i open scawr i drag/drop <filename.sc>
    my bad its run in cmd :))
    C:\Users\User 7>Desktop>tools> run scas <myfilename.sc> run scwr <myfilename>
    right?

    but always show
    The syntax of the command is incorrect.
    what's wrong?
    i tried drag n drop
    and show like this
    Code: [Select]
    error at line 5: invalid command
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: argcargv on Fri, 05 December 2014, 16:50:17
    Question about Ducky year of the horse:

    1. does it have a plate?

    2. Will the pcb fit into one of the custom 60% cases? for example the FMJ case?

    watching the production video here at 1m47s mark, the pcb looks to have red circle marked holes for the standoffs.
    t=1m47s

    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 December 2014, 17:52:55
    Quote from: argcargv on Fri, 05 December 2014, 16:50:17
    Question about Ducky year of the horse:

    1. does it have a plate?

    2. Will the pcb fit into one of the custom 60% cases? for example the FMJ case?

    watching the production video here at 1m47s mark, the pcb looks to have red circle marked holes for the standoffs.
    t=1m47s

    Thanks in advance!
    1) yes
    2) not 100% sure but I think so. Never actually tried it myself but I'd assume so.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Fri, 05 December 2014, 18:05:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 December 2014, 17:52:55
    Quote from: argcargv on Fri, 05 December 2014, 16:50:17
    Question about Ducky year of the horse:

    1. does it have a plate?

    2. Will the pcb fit into one of the custom 60% cases? for example the FMJ case?

    watching the production video here at 1m47s mark, the pcb looks to have red circle marked holes for the standoffs.
    t=1m47s

    Thanks in advance!
    1) yes
    2) not 100% sure but I think so. Never actually tried it myself but I'd assume so.

    I don't think it would fit, since the mini USB placement for most aftermarket 60% cases are at the back where as on the ducky mini is on the side.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 December 2014, 21:12:46
    Quote from: moralles on Fri, 05 December 2014, 18:05:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 December 2014, 17:52:55
    Quote from: argcargv on Fri, 05 December 2014, 16:50:17
    Question about Ducky year of the horse:

    2. Will the pcb fit into one of the custom 60% cases? for example the FMJ case?
    2) not 100% sure but I think so. Never actually tried it myself but I'd assume so.

    I don't think it would fit, since the mini USB placement for most aftermarket 60% cases are at the back where as on the ducky mini is on the side.

    That makes a lot of sense. My guess was totally wrong haha. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: argcargv on Fri, 05 December 2014, 22:48:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 December 2014, 21:12:46
    Quote from: moralles on Fri, 05 December 2014, 18:05:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 December 2014, 17:52:55
    Quote from: argcargv on Fri, 05 December 2014, 16:50:17
    Question about Ducky year of the horse:

    2. Will the pcb fit into one of the custom 60% cases? for example the FMJ case?
    2) not 100% sure but I think so. Never actually tried it myself but I'd assume so.

    I don't think it would fit, since the mini USB placement for most aftermarket 60% cases are at the back where as on the ducky mini is on the side.

    That makes a lot of sense. My guess was totally wrong haha. Thanks!

    Thanks for the answers guys!
    as for question number 2.

    please take a look at the video, the side mini usb is actually connected by a pretty long wire to the pcb, so I'm thinking I could make it work by just gluing the mini usb to the back of the fmj case.

    the only thing I'm worried about is the screw placement for the pcb/plate will not match the standoffs on a FMJ
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 December 2014, 23:00:41
    Quote from: argcargv on Fri, 05 December 2014, 22:48:27
    Thanks for the answers guys!
    as for question number 2.

    please take a look at the video, the side mini usb is actually connected by a pretty long wire to the pcb, so I'm thinking I could make it work by just gluing the mini usb to the back of the fmj case.

    the only thing I'm worried about is the screw placement for the pcb/plate will not match the standoffs on a FMJ

    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=62847.0;attach=77245;image)
    FMJ Case
    (http://i.imgur.com/ACa1XFh.png)
    Ducky Mini PCB

    Looks like there's a third stand off on the FMJ case that will interfere with the Ducky PCB. The Mini looks to have 4 holes and the FMJ has three stand offs; one being offset.

    And you're right. There's a little daughter board where the USB port is so you can move it around as is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: argcargv on Fri, 05 December 2014, 23:08:57
    It would be really helpful if we could find a picture of the bottom case of the ducky year of the horse, and see if the standoffs on that matches the FMJ case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:28:11
    Any one know if it's possible to just buy novatouch stems, or do they have to be harvested.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:44:08
    Quote from: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:28:11
    Any one know if it's possible to just buy novatouch stems, or do they have to be harvested.

    Right now, they have to be harvested. I could see them potentially being available in the future. If you only want one or two, then matt3o has a design that can be 3d printed that he has been working on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:50:27
    Quote from: byker on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:44:08
    Quote from: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:28:11
    Any one know if it's possible to just buy novatouch stems, or do they have to be harvested.

    Right now, they have to be harvested. I could see them potentially being available in the future. If you only want one or two, then matt3o has a design that can be 3d printed that he has been working on.

    Thanks, I may just have to buy a novatouch and swap stems with my HHKB.  Determined to have miami on my HHKB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:52:46
    Quote from: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:50:27
    Quote from: byker on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:44:08
    Quote from: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:28:11
    Any one know if it's possible to just buy novatouch stems, or do they have to be harvested.

    Right now, they have to be harvested. I could see them potentially being available in the future. If you only want one or two, then matt3o has a design that can be 3d printed that he has been working on.

    Thanks, I may just have to buy a novatouch and swap stems with my HHKB.  Determined to have miami on my HHKB.

    No worries, check amazon, they were $160 with prime shipping at one point in time, and you can always resell it with regular topre stems. The "novabrid" as tj calls it..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 06 December 2014, 02:02:24
    Quote from: byker on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:52:46
    Quote from: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:50:27
    Quote from: byker on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:44:08
    Quote from: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:28:11
    Any one know if it's possible to just buy novatouch stems, or do they have to be harvested.

    Right now, they have to be harvested. I could see them potentially being available in the future. If you only want one or two, then matt3o has a design that can be 3d printed that he has been working on.

    Thanks, I may just have to buy a novatouch and swap stems with my HHKB.  Determined to have miami on my HHKB.

    No worries, check amazon, they were $160 with prime shipping at one point in time, and you can always resell it with regular topre stems. The "novabrid" as tj calls it..

    $177.37 at the time of this post.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MY3S288/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MY3S288/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 02:07:48
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 06 December 2014, 02:02:24
    Quote from: byker on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:52:46
    Quote from: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:50:27
    Quote from: byker on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:44:08
    Quote from: jackalope on Sat, 06 December 2014, 01:28:11
    Any one know if it's possible to just buy novatouch stems, or do they have to be harvested.

    Right now, they have to be harvested. I could see them potentially being available in the future. If you only want one or two, then matt3o has a design that can be 3d printed that he has been working on.

    Thanks, I may just have to buy a novatouch and swap stems with my HHKB.  Determined to have miami on my HHKB.

    No worries, check amazon, they were $160 with prime shipping at one point in time, and you can always resell it with regular topre stems. The "novabrid" as tj calls it..

    $177.37 at the time of this post.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MY3S288/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MY3S288/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

    Thank you.

    This is why I shouldn't drink and browse GH, think im about to pick that up, lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 07 December 2014, 13:12:32
    Is there anywhere a guide to opening the IKBC F-104? Or at least of opening a keyboard similar to it?  This is the first keyboard that I open.  I plan to replace the switch springs.  I understand that this board has some special modability for leds, I don't intend to install any leds however.  Will this led function be in my way in any way?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 07 December 2014, 21:34:19
    I had to look up some pictures.

    Top "case" clips on to bottom. There are likely some screws holding it on as well.

    step one: find all the screws. There might be one under a label or a QC sticker. Take them out.
    Step two: get a butterknife, credit card, guitor pick, nylon stick, fingernail, etc to pry the top case off.

    For additional info look up a guide on removing a filco top case, as it is very likely similar.

    as to the LED: it was really hard to find PCB photos but it looks like all you need to do is remove the solder from the LED holes and install an LED.

    Note: if you don't want LEDs then it won't get in your way at all.

    Also note: to change springs you will have to desolder. The KB I found pictures of is plate-mounted.

    Just desolder the switches, open them up, change springs, solder them back and you're good to go!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cypherzion751 on Sun, 07 December 2014, 22:54:52
    I have two questions for you guys:

    1) Where can you buy a KBC Poker II PBT with Brown cherry MX switches?

    -Hoping to buy two of them
    -I know I missed the massdrop
    -Mechanicalkeyboards.com is out of stock
    -Newegg has two? One made by five star and the other listed as generic? Where are the Vortex boards at?  :confused:

    2) I know that single color led backlighting is an easy mod on the poker II but has anyone tried to put multicolor leds in them instead?

    -Hoping to switch between red, green and blue.  I don't need mixed colors so that would make it easier.

    Thanks for the help guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 05:02:13
    the position two month is same as usually?
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/16758)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 December 2014, 10:25:44
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 05:02:13
    the position two month is same as usually?
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/16758)


    The English here is hard to understand, so I will attempt my best.

    Are you asking "it this was 2unit keycaps should look like?", or maybe "why do these look this way?"

    If either of those are close, I can say that those 2u keycaps are from a POS board, which used two switches to provide stabilization, instead of using one switch in the middle and a stabilizer bar connecting to two outer points on the keycap.

    Hopefully that answers your question, but if not, an alternate translation might help.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 December 2014, 10:32:27
    Quote from: cypherzion751 on Sun, 07 December 2014, 22:54:52
    I have two questions for you guys:

    1) Where can you buy a KBC Poker II PBT with Brown cherry MX switches?

    -Hoping to buy two of them
    -I know I missed the massdrop
    -Mechanicalkeyboards.com is out of stock
    -Newegg has two? One made by five star and the other listed as generic? Where are the Vortex boards at?  :confused:

    2) I know that single color led backlighting is an easy mod on the poker II but has anyone tried to put multicolor leds in them instead?

    -Hoping to switch between red, green and blue.  I don't need mixed colors so that would make it easier.

    Thanks for the help guys.

    1) I'd wait for MK.com to restock. Vortex is known for odd supply issues. They're out of China.
    2) IIRC Jixr has a Poker 2 that looks like an American flag with the LEDs. It's possible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 08 December 2014, 10:52:13
    What does a beam spring keyboard feel like?  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:27:21
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 08 December 2014, 10:52:13
    What does a beam spring keyboard feel like?  :)
    Magical
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:58:14
    Quote from: cypherzion751 on Sun, 07 December 2014, 22:54:52
    I have two questions for you guys:

    1) Where can you buy a KBC Poker II PBT with Brown cherry MX switches?

    -Hoping to buy two of them
    -I know I missed the massdrop
    -Mechanicalkeyboards.com is out of stock
    -Newegg has two? One made by five star and the other listed as generic? Where are the Vortex boards at?  :confused:

    2) I know that single color led backlighting is an easy mod on the poker II but has anyone tried to put multicolor leds in them instead?

    -Hoping to switch between red, green and blue.  I don't need mixed colors so that would make it easier.

    Thanks for the help guys.
    1. I recommend just waiting for the next drop.
    2. You can put different colour LEDs in it like red on some green on some, etc. You can also get LEDs that change colour over time, (check it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxaFwzqFZ6E)) but you can't put in LEDs that can be multiple colours (like bipolar bicolour LEDs and RGBLEDS)

    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 05:02:13
    the position two month is same as usually?
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/16758)

    Usually 2-unit keys have three stems, one in the middle. Those keycaps are for a POS keyboard and are designed to fit over two separate switches. They are common on matrix POS boards.


    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 08 December 2014, 10:52:13
    What does a beam spring keyboard feel like?  :)
    They tried to get the feel of the selectric typewriter. The beamspring is similar but with a soft click rather than a loud thunk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 18:49:40
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 December 2014, 10:25:44
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 05:02:13
    the position two month is same as usually?
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/16758)


    The English here is hard to understand, so I will attempt my best.

    Are you asking "it this was 2unit keycaps should look like?", or maybe "why do these look this way?"

    If either of those are close, I can say that those 2u keycaps are from a POS board, which used two switches to provide stabilization, instead of using one switch in the middle and a stabilizer bar connecting to two outer points on the keycap.

    Hopefully that answers your question, but if not, an alternate translation might help.  :)
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:58:14
    Usually 2-unit keys have three stems, one in the middle. Those keycaps are for a POS keyboard and are designed to fit over two separate switches. They are common on matrix POS boards.
    yup, the 2month position is same as like 3month just leave one month in middle, right?
    or different spacing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Mon, 08 December 2014, 21:10:23
    Is the short shift small enough to fit the right shift on a HHKB
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=tmod_grn (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=tmod_grn)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 08 December 2014, 21:15:32
    it is 1.75x, so i believe so, yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Mon, 08 December 2014, 21:20:02
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 08 December 2014, 21:15:32
    it is 1.75x, so i believe so, yes

    Thank you, that is excellent news.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 22:14:30
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 18:49:40
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 December 2014, 10:25:44
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 05:02:13
    the position two month is same as usually?
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/16758)


    The English here is hard to understand, so I will attempt my best.

    Are you asking "it this was 2unit keycaps should look like?", or maybe "why do these look this way?"

    If either of those are close, I can say that those 2u keycaps are from a POS board, which used two switches to provide stabilization, instead of using one switch in the middle and a stabilizer bar connecting to two outer points on the keycap.

    Hopefully that answers your question, but if not, an alternate translation might help.  :)
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:58:14
    Usually 2-unit keys have three stems, one in the middle. Those keycaps are for a POS keyboard and are designed to fit over two separate switches. They are common on matrix POS boards.
    yup, the 2month position is same as like 3month just leave one month in middle, right?
    or different spacing?
    Different.

    I can take a picture comparing the two side by side.

    edit: picture uploading now.


    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7510/15978776241_7fd9558a5a_o.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Tue, 09 December 2014, 00:53:51
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 22:14:30
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 18:49:40
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 December 2014, 10:25:44
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 05:02:13
    the position two month is same as usually?
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/16758)


    The English here is hard to understand, so I will attempt my best.

    Are you asking "it this was 2unit keycaps should look like?", or maybe "why do these look this way?"

    If either of those are close, I can say that those 2u keycaps are from a POS board, which used two switches to provide stabilization, instead of using one switch in the middle and a stabilizer bar connecting to two outer points on the keycap.

    Hopefully that answers your question, but if not, an alternate translation might help.  :)
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:58:14
    Usually 2-unit keys have three stems, one in the middle. Those keycaps are for a POS keyboard and are designed to fit over two separate switches. They are common on matrix POS boards.
    yup, the 2month position is same as like 3month just leave one month in middle, right?
    or different spacing?
    Different.

    I can take a picture comparing the two side by side.

    edit: picture uploading now.


    Show Image
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7510/15978776241_7fd9558a5a_o.jpg)

    :thumb: thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RoflCopter4 on Tue, 09 December 2014, 01:04:51
    Is there any difference between the keycaps currently produced by Unicomp and the keycaps used for old IBM Model F keyboards? I want to replace the filthy keycaps on my 122 key terminal board and Unicomp seems like the best place to go. The keys on my Unicomp keyboard feel basically the same as the keys on my barely used Model M, which are themselves very nice. Unfortunately my Unicomp is at work and my Model F is at home and I can't be bothered to lug the thing home on the bus just to test if the keycaps are compatible. Does anyone know?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 09 December 2014, 02:55:44
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 07 December 2014, 21:34:19
    I had to look up some pictures.

    Top "case" clips on to bottom. There are likely some screws holding it on as well.

    step one: find all the screws. There might be one under a label or a QC sticker. Take them out.
    Step two: get a butterknife, credit card, guitor pick, nylon stick, fingernail, etc to pry the top case off.

    For additional info look up a guide on removing a filco top case, as it is very likely similar.

    as to the LED: it was really hard to find PCB photos but it looks like all you need to do is remove the solder from the LED holes and install an LED.

    Note: if you don't want LEDs then it won't get in your way at all.

    Also note: to change springs you will have to desolder. The KB I found pictures of is plate-mounted.

    Just desolder the switches, open them up, change springs, solder them back and you're good to go!

    Wow, thx for such a good answer, you are awesome.  One other thing, I want to disable the num lock, scroll, lock caps lock leds because I find them annyoing.  What is best way to do that? Just desolder the leds from the pcb and throw them in the trash? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 09 December 2014, 05:05:54
    Quote from: jackalope on Mon, 08 December 2014, 21:10:23
    Is the short shift small enough to fit the right shift on a HHKB
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=tmod_grn (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=tmod_grn)

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 08 December 2014, 21:15:32
    it is 1.75x, so i believe so, yes

    Sorry, this is wrong, the left (small) shift is 2.25x in that mod kit, not 1.75x. It will work for the HHKB's left shift but not the right.

    Quote from: RoflCopter4 on Tue, 09 December 2014, 01:04:51
    Is there any difference between the keycaps currently produced by Unicomp and the keycaps used for old IBM Model F keyboards? I want to replace the filthy keycaps on my 122 key terminal board and Unicomp seems like the best place to go. The keys on my Unicomp keyboard feel basically the same as the keys on my barely used Model M, which are themselves very nice. Unfortunately my Unicomp is at work and my Model F is at home and I can't be bothered to lug the thing home on the bus just to test if the keycaps are compatible. Does anyone know?

    I recently read a post by dorkvader, in which he mentioned that the keycaps are compatible but the legends are different. Perhaps he'll explain further.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 09 December 2014, 08:08:23
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 09 December 2014, 05:05:54
    the keycaps are compatible but the legends are different

    The are exactly the same, except different.

    Unicomp uses the same machinery, in the same factory, as IBM and Lexmark used.

    Even in the old days, IBM cap legends varied in depth of color and placement on the caps. I have some from the 1980s with legends practically crammed into the top left corners.

    Recently, I bought a "green alert" set and the legends were almost centered, but not consistently, and a few of the legends were even below and to the right of center.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 09 December 2014, 09:08:51
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 22:14:30
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 18:49:40
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 December 2014, 10:25:44
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 08 December 2014, 05:02:13
    the position two month is same as usually?
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/16758)


    The English here is hard to understand, so I will attempt my best.

    Are you asking "it this was 2unit keycaps should look like?", or maybe "why do these look this way?"

    If either of those are close, I can say that those 2u keycaps are from a POS board, which used two switches to provide stabilization, instead of using one switch in the middle and a stabilizer bar connecting to two outer points on the keycap.

    Hopefully that answers your question, but if not, an alternate translation might help.  :)
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:58:14
    Usually 2-unit keys have three stems, one in the middle. Those keycaps are for a POS keyboard and are designed to fit over two separate switches. They are common on matrix POS boards.
    yup, the 2month position is same as like 3month just leave one month in middle, right?
    or different spacing?
    Different.

    I can take a picture comparing the two side by side.

    edit: picture uploading now.


    Show Image
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7510/15978776241_7fd9558a5a_o.jpg)


    Just to add, from specs, the distance between the two stab mount positions in a three mount 2u key is 23.876mm. For the two mount 2u key it is going to be 19.05mm because it is meant to be mounted on two adjacent switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 December 2014, 11:19:27
    Quote from: RoflCopter4 on Tue, 09 December 2014, 01:04:51
    Is there any difference between the keycaps currently produced by Unicomp and the keycaps used for old IBM Model F keyboards? I want to replace the filthy keycaps on my 122 key terminal board and Unicomp seems like the best place to go. The keys on my Unicomp keyboard feel basically the same as the keys on my barely used Model M, which are themselves very nice. Unfortunately my Unicomp is at work and my Model F is at home and I can't be bothered to lug the thing home on the bus just to test if the keycaps are compatible. Does anyone know?
    besides the one piece vs two piece contruction, nope
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 09 December 2014, 14:33:27
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 09 December 2014, 02:55:44
    One other thing, I want to disable the num lock, scroll, lock caps lock leds because I find them annyoing.  What is best way to do that? Just desolder the leds from the pcb and throw them in the trash? :)
    you can desolder the LEDs or the LED resistor or cut the trace. I recommend desoldering the LEDs as you can resolder them if you want to sell it to someone who likes LEDs there.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 09 December 2014, 05:05:54
    Quote from: RoflCopter4 on Tue, 09 December 2014, 01:04:51
    Is there any difference between the keycaps currently produced by Unicomp and the keycaps used for old IBM Model F keyboards? I want to replace the filthy keycaps on my 122 key terminal board and Unicomp seems like the best place to go. The keys on my Unicomp keyboard feel basically the same as the keys on my barely used Model M, which are themselves very nice. Unfortunately my Unicomp is at work and my Model F is at home and I can't be bothered to lug the thing home on the bus just to test if the keycaps are compatible. Does anyone know?

    I recently read a post by dorkvader, in which he mentioned that the keycaps are compatible but the legends are different. Perhaps he'll explain further.
    :)

    OK so IBM has changed legending techniques (dyesub equipment) a few times over the course of buckling spring history. You can see small differences like the colour of the sublegends on the tenkey, and huge differences like the change of font between the AT model F and model M keyboards. Later on the legends got thinner and more precise.

    Unicomp bought lexmark's tooling so they have similar lines to lexmark. However, as fohat has said their accuracy is sometimes not as good.

    So: old IBM: high accuracy, low precision (legends are thick and can get "fuzzy") Later IBM: sometimes better. Very late IBM and lexmark: thin lines, decent accuracy, they stuck to one colour usually (so no green alt) Unicomp: thin lines, multiple colours, high precision, lower accuracy (offset or crooked letting is not uncommon)

    as to the keys themselves: I believe they changed moulds a few times over production history: you can tell there are some differences in surface roughness of the keycap itself. Unicomp is just fine.

    to sum up: they are basically the same but can have tiny differences.

    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 December 2014, 11:19:27

    besides the one piece vs two piece contruction, nope
    Both IBM and unicomp have 1 piece and 2 piece keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cypherzion751 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 05:31:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:58:14

    1. I recommend just waiting for the next drop.
    2. You can put different colour LEDs in it like red on some green on some, etc. You can also get LEDs that change colour over time, (check it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxaFwzqFZ6E)) but you can't put in LEDs that can be multiple colours (like bipolar bicolour LEDs and RGBLEDS)


    Thanks for the info.  Is there a 60% keyboard that is similar to the Poker II but does have RGB led or ability to solder them in?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 December 2014, 06:07:19
    Quote from: cypherzion751 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 05:31:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:58:14

    1. I recommend just waiting for the next drop.
    2. You can put different colour LEDs in it like red on some green on some, etc. You can also get LEDs that change colour over time, (check it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxaFwzqFZ6E)) but you can't put in LEDs that can be multiple colours (like bipolar bicolour LEDs and RGBLEDS)


    Thanks for the info.  Is there a 60% keyboard that is similar to the Poker II but does have RGB led or ability to solder them in?

    I don't see why you can't put in RGB LEDs into a Poker 2. Glissant has a KMAC which has RGB LEDs in it. Could you explain Dorkvader?

    And I think Kaliet has a new 60% board that might fit your wish cypherzion751.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 07:02:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 December 2014, 06:07:19
    I don't see why you can't put in RGB LEDs into a Poker 2. Glissant has a KMAC which has RGB LEDs in it. Could you explain Dorkvader?

    And I think Kaliet has a new 60% board that might fit your wish cypherzion751.

    That's interesting... wouldn't you need a PCB with control signals for the LEDs and a controller that supports them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 December 2014, 07:04:02
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 07:02:46
    That's interesting... wouldn't you need a PCB with control signals for the LEDs and a controller that supports them?

    Don't know about the control signals but apparently the KMAC controller can handle it. I asked both Glissant and jdcarpe about it but neither knew a lot about the mod. Hopefully someone else can fill us in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cypherzion751 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 11:47:28
    oh ok, still holding out hope for it to work.  Doesn't have to be a poker 2, just a 60% board.  I know most RGB leds have 4 leads on them when the poker 2 only has 2 holes per led.  I don't need mixing colors, but hopefully wanted to be able to switch between red, green, blue and white.  Eventually want both a 60% and a full size with that functionality.  If is not possible i'll just stick to white leds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 10 December 2014, 17:59:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 December 2014, 06:07:19
    Quote from: cypherzion751 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 05:31:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:58:14

    1. I recommend just waiting for the next drop.
    2. You can put different colour LEDs in it like red on some green on some, etc. You can also get LEDs that change colour over time, (check it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxaFwzqFZ6E)) but you can't put in LEDs that can be multiple colours (like bipolar bicolour LEDs and RGBLEDS)


    Thanks for the info.  Is there a 60% keyboard that is similar to the Poker II but does have RGB led or ability to solder them in?

    I don't see why you can't put in RGB LEDs into a Poker 2. Glissant has a KMAC which has RGB LEDs in it. Could you explain Dorkvader?

    And I think Kaliet has a new 60% board that might fit your wish cypherzion751.

    RGBLEDS have 4 leads.

    KMAC and poker II only have 2 leads for each LED (power and GND).

    Additionally there is no way to fit the RGBLED into the switch. GMK have bi color LEDS in some of their WEY keyboards and they have a random LED leg coming out the front.

    I bet they are using those colour change LEDS like in the disco poker link.

    I am going to PM glissant and jdcarpe about it because I'm sure the KMAC PCB doesn't support RGBLEDs and I'm pretty sure the firmware dosen't either. Even the cherry switch itself doesn't support them. The way the corsair KB gets around it is with a SMD RGBLED and a different housing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 10 December 2014, 18:51:36
    Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 10 December 2014, 17:59:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 December 2014, 06:07:19
    Quote from: cypherzion751 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 05:31:06
    Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:58:14

    1. I recommend just waiting for the next drop.
    2. You can put different colour LEDs in it like red on some green on some, etc. You can also get LEDs that change colour over time, (check it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxaFwzqFZ6E)) but you can't put in LEDs that can be multiple colours (like bipolar bicolour LEDs and RGBLEDS)


    Thanks for the info.  Is there a 60% keyboard that is similar to the Poker II but does have RGB led or ability to solder them in?

    I don't see why you can't put in RGB LEDs into a Poker 2. Glissant has a KMAC which has RGB LEDs in it. Could you explain Dorkvader?

    And I think Kaliet has a new 60% board that might fit your wish cypherzion751.

    RGBLEDS have 4 leads.

    KMAC and poker II only have 2 leads for each LED (power and GND).

    Additionally there is no way to fit the RGBLED into the switch. GMK have bi color LEDS in some of their WEY keyboards and they have a random LED leg coming out the front.

    I bet they are using those colour change LEDS like in the disco poker link.

    I am going to PM glissant and jdcarpe about it because I'm sure the KMAC PCB doesn't support RGBLEDs and I'm pretty sure the firmware dosen't either. Even the cherry switch itself doesn't support them. The way the corsair KB gets around it is with a SMD RGBLED and a different housing.

    What about going with LEDs that have two legs but change colors with different voltages.  I know those can be had in a few different 2 color patterns, though not sure about more than that especially with the sizes that work with Cherry switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cypherzion751 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 19:43:28
    a bi-color led board would be cool as well.  maybe a GB, but if I were to go that route, a lot of the ones that I saw require the polarity to switch to change color which is probably something that can't be done in the poker II can it?  I know that the KBParadise v60 is GB but I like the ability to program the poker. Between the v60 and two single LED pokers I think I would choose the poker.  Especially now that the Poker III is going to be coming out.  I want to pick up a poker II still though, I really want that "Enjoy Your Feeling" spacebar hahaha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 10 December 2014, 19:44:54
    Quote from: dorkvader on Wed, 10 December 2014, 17:59:15
    I am going to PM glissant and jdcarpe about it because I'm sure the KMAC PCB doesn't support RGBLEDs and I'm pretty sure the firmware dosen't either.

    You're welcome to try. When I asked them, neither of the two knew how it had been done.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 10 December 2014, 20:48:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 10 December 2014, 18:51:36

    What about going with LEDs that have two legs but change colors with different voltages.  I know those can be had in a few different 2 color patterns, though not sure about more than that especially with the sizes that work with Cherry switches.

    You can get a second "color" out of the LED by exploiting the fact that LEDs are directional. Such bicolour 2 pin LEDs get a second colour by runnig current in the other direction. The KMAC and poker II hardware do not support this, though you could probably "hack" it by cutting power from the transistor (so you don't destroy it) and switching power and ground on the LED array power rails.

    I checked with jdcarpe and he confirmed the RGBLEDs on glissant's KMAC are the 2 pin types that just cycle through the colours with no control. The "disco poker" uses these.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 16:24:16
    Are all of the Teensy models functionally compatible? I'd hate to, for example, buy a Teensy 3.0 if it won't work with the Teensy 2.0 firmware I plan to use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 11 December 2014, 16:44:39
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 16:24:16
    I'd hate to, for example, buy a Teensy 3.0 if it won't work with the Teensy 2.0 firmware I plan to use.

    Soarer's stuff is for the 2.0

    It is my understanding that the 3x series runs at a different voltage not suitable for USB keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 16:49:38
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 11 December 2014, 16:44:39
    Soarer's stuff is for the 2.0

    It is my understanding that the 3x series runs at a different voltage not suitable for USB keyboards.

    Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know if there is a difference between the 2.0 and 2.0++ other than the additional IO sockets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:08:39
    What's the closest alps equivalent to MX blues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:24:35
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:08:39
    What's the closest alps equivalent to MX blues?

    Grey Alps I think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:30:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:24:35
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:08:39
    What's the closest alps equivalent to MX blues?

    Grey Alps I think.
    Available in anything besides Matiases? I'm just looking for the switches for my Omnikey
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:41:27
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:30:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:24:35
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 18:08:39
    What's the closest alps equivalent to MX blues?

    Grey Alps I think.
    Available in anything besides Matiases? I'm just looking for the switches for my Omnikey

    They exist outside of Matias. I've typed on a board with them. I would say White Alps but I don't think you like them. Blue Alps have a similar sound but not the same feeling. Other than those? I'm not sure there's an option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 11 December 2014, 19:28:38
    Green XM ALPS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 19:49:38
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 11 December 2014, 19:28:38
    Green XM ALPS

    I don't think those feel like MX Blues at all. From what I remember, they feel gritty and crunchy and clicky. Really disliked them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:12:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 19:49:38
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 11 December 2014, 19:28:38
    Green XM ALPS

    I don't think those feel like MX Blues at all. From what I remember, they feel gritty and crunchy and clicky. Really disliked them.

    Yeah.  I had a Green XM board and it was poopy.  My first exposure to Alps, and it was not pleasant.  Just felt like a super cheap/dirty MX Blue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:15:56
    Also, I should just be able to dunk the housings and sliders of my orange alps in some water right? I'm gonna try and lube them, but I want to get any gunk out of them first because a few still feel majorly scratchy and slow to return after actuation
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:16:59
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:15:56
    Also, I should just be able to dunk the housings and sliders of my orange alps in some water right? I'm gonna try and lube them, but I want to get any gunk out of them first because a few still feel majorly scratchy and slow to return after actuation

    Yup. I'd recommend distilled water and a proper dry though. Or isopropyl.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:26:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:16:59
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:15:56
    Also, I should just be able to dunk the housings and sliders of my orange alps in some water right? I'm gonna try and lube them, but I want to get any gunk out of them first because a few still feel majorly scratchy and slow to return after actuation

    Yup. I'd recommend distilled water and a proper dry though. Or isopropyl.
    Cool. And this (https://ctrlalt.io/store/items/geekhackers-lube-kits) thick lube should work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:29:40
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:26:49
    Cool. And this (https://ctrlalt.io/store/items/geekhackers-lube-kits) thick lube should work?

    For Orange Alps? I think a thin lube would work better.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:35:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:29:40
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:26:49
    Cool. And this (https://ctrlalt.io/store/items/geekhackers-lube-kits) thick lube should work?

    For Orange Alps? I think a thin lube would work better.

    I'd almost think a dry lube would be better for Alps due to their design.  An oil or grease lube may encourage dust and other unwanted things to collect.  Are there any electrically non-conductive dry lubes, be they a powder, spray, coating, or whatever?  I know PTFE could work, but that's usually in an oil or grease.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cptmullet on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:38:08
    I want a board with MX clears, TKL, ideally with PBT caps.
    Is there a better option than the WASD Code?

    I had them on my Leopold f660m but hated the 60% compromise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:40:00
    Quote from: cptmullet on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:38:08
    I want a board with MX clears, TKL, ideally with PBT caps.
    Is there a better option than the WASD Code?

    I had them on my Leopold f660m but hated the 60% compromise.

    Ducky Shine or KUL 87. Or get something you like and then get a modder to swap it to Clears for you. drhubblephd is still running his free assembly promotion I think and dorkvader, hoffmanmyster, and tjcaustin all do assembly in the USA.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:00:33
    Is first class international the best option for shipping keycaps overseas? When making labels on USPS.com, it only ever shows priority mail.  And if so, are bubble mailers safe? I'm scared at the thought of them getting crushed somewhere in transit and them arriving to the buyer in pieces.   :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:03:18
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:00:33
    Is first class international the best option for shipping keycaps overseas? When making labels on USPS.com, it only ever shows priority mail.  And if so, are bubble mailers safe? I'm scared at the thought of them getting crushed somewhere in transit and have them arrive to the buyer in pieces.   :'(
    I've never had anything damaged in a bubble mailer. But there seem to be different qualities. I always use the ones they sell at the PO, they're nicely cushioned but also sturdy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:04:15
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:03:18
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:00:33
    Is first class international the best option for shipping keycaps overseas? When making labels on USPS.com, it only ever shows priority mail.  And if so, are bubble mailers safe? I'm scared at the thought of them getting crushed somewhere in transit and have them arrive to the buyer in pieces.   :'(
    I've never had anything damaged in a bubble mailer. But there seem to be different qualities. I always use the ones they sell at the PO, they're nicely cushioned but also sturdy
    I have the scotch ones, I bought a few from CVS.  They seem like good quality, I'm just overly paranoid about these things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cptmullet on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:05:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:40:00
    Quote from: cptmullet on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:38:08
    I want a board with MX clears, TKL, ideally with PBT caps.
    Is there a better option than the WASD Code?

    I had them on my Leopold f660m but hated the 60% compromise.

    Ducky Shine or KUL 87. Or get something you like and then get a modder to swap it to Clears for you. drhubblephd is still running his free assembly promotion I think and dorkvader, hoffmanmyster, and tjcaustin all do assembly in the USA.

    I can't for the life of me find a TKL ducky shine with clears.
    Definitely have to look into having a board replaced with some clears, I have a couple rotting away in my closet... Thanks!  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:05:59
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:04:15
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:03:18
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:00:33
    Is first class international the best option for shipping keycaps overseas? When making labels on USPS.com, it only ever shows priority mail.  And if so, are bubble mailers safe? I'm scared at the thought of them getting crushed somewhere in transit and have them arrive to the buyer in pieces.   :'(
    I've never had anything damaged in a bubble mailer. But there seem to be different qualities. I always use the ones they sell at the PO, they're nicely cushioned but also sturdy
    I have the scotch ones, I bought a few from CVS.  They seem like good quality, I'm just overly paranoid about these things.
    Usually shipping small sets or parts of and cheaper novelty caps, it's fine. But if I'm shipping something more valuable I'll sometimes put it in a small priority box, but only CONUS because priority international is outrageous
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:06:39
    Will any plate work with a KMAC PCB, or do I need a KMAC specific plate?

    Same question but about cases as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:09:11
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:05:59
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:04:15
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:03:18
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:00:33
    Is first class international the best option for shipping keycaps overseas? When making labels on USPS.com, it only ever shows priority mail.  And if so, are bubble mailers safe? I'm scared at the thought of them getting crushed somewhere in transit and have them arrive to the buyer in pieces.   :'(
    I've never had anything damaged in a bubble mailer. But there seem to be different qualities. I always use the ones they sell at the PO, they're nicely cushioned but also sturdy
    I have the scotch ones, I bought a few from CVS.  They seem like good quality, I'm just overly paranoid about these things.
    Usually shipping small sets or parts of and cheaper novelty caps, it's fine. But if I'm shipping something more valuable I'll sometimes put it in a small priority box, but only CONUS because priority international is outrageous
    I know! It's absolutely outrageous, I wish there were more affordable options!  Thanks for your help, Hwood! =)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:16:58
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:00:33
    Is first class international the best option for shipping keycaps overseas? When making labels on USPS.com, it only ever shows priority mail.  And if so, are bubble mailers safe? I'm scared at the thought of them getting crushed somewhere in transit and them arriving to the buyer in pieces.   :'(

    Not all options are available online, for the ones that aren't you have to use Stamps.com or another verified service. You can ship first class in small boxes, whenever I shipped a set of keycaps I used a box about the size of a tissue box.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:23:56
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:16:58
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:00:33
    Is first class international the best option for shipping keycaps overseas? When making labels on USPS.com, it only ever shows priority mail.  And if so, are bubble mailers safe? I'm scared at the thought of them getting crushed somewhere in transit and them arriving to the buyer in pieces.   :'(

    Not all options are available online, for the ones that aren't you have to use Stamps.com or another verified service. You can ship first class in small boxes, whenever I shipped a set of keycaps I used a box about the size of a tissue box.
    Thanks Blaise! I just registered for a trial on stamps.com!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:37:25
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:23:56
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:16:58
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:00:33
    Is first class international the best option for shipping keycaps overseas? When making labels on USPS.com, it only ever shows priority mail.  And if so, are bubble mailers safe? I'm scared at the thought of them getting crushed somewhere in transit and them arriving to the buyer in pieces.   :'(

    Not all options are available online, for the ones that aren't you have to use Stamps.com or another verified service. You can ship first class in small boxes, whenever I shipped a set of keycaps I used a box about the size of a tissue box.
    Thanks Blaise! I just registered for a trial on stamps.com!

    Stamps.com is great, and worth the cost if you ship a lot.  When I first started using it maybe 8 months ago, I had a few questions, so if you have questions feel free to ask (I'm not sure how many users there are on here).  I'm no expert, but I have a bit of experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 22:23:10
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:06:39
    Will any plate work with a KMAC PCB, or do I need a KMAC specific plate?

    Same question but about cases as well.

    I think the KMAC plates are specific to the case. There's a lot of little tabs on the plate that play into the case/plate screw setup. I don't think I've seen the KMACs exact mounting setup in another board.

    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:37:25
    Stamps.com is great, and worth the cost if you ship a lot.  When I first started using it maybe 8 months ago, I had a few questions, so if you have questions feel free to ask (I'm not sure how many users there are on here).  I'm no expert, but I have a bit of experience.

    I enjoyed my trial period with Stamps.com as well. Easy to use app, good for bulk packages, and great customer service. I just don't ship enough packages consistently to warrant the monthly payment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 11 December 2014, 22:31:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 December 2014, 22:23:10
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:37:25
    Stamps.com is great, and worth the cost if you ship a lot.  When I first started using it maybe 8 months ago, I had a few questions, so if you have questions feel free to ask (I'm not sure how many users there are on here).  I'm no expert, but I have a bit of experience.

    I enjoyed my trial period with Stamps.com as well. Easy to use app, good for bulk packages, and great customer service. I just don't ship enough packages consistently to warrant the monthly payment.

    Someone needs to proxy more GBs and sell more stuff!   :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 11 December 2014, 22:59:07
    Where can I buy a 6.25x space bar wire?  GON's shipping is too much for a little thing like that

    I'm in the US.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 11 December 2014, 23:05:03
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Thu, 11 December 2014, 22:59:07
    Where can I buy a 6.25x space bar wire?  GON's shipping is too much for a little thing like that

    I'm in the US.

    I needed a space bar wire when I bought my JD40 and I ended up just making my own.  Got great results with some music wire and a wire bender I bought at a hobby store, took about 10 minutes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 11 December 2014, 23:37:52
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 11 December 2014, 16:44:39
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 16:24:16
    I'd hate to, for example, buy a Teensy 3.0 if it won't work with the Teensy 2.0 firmware I plan to use.

    Soarer's stuff is for the 2.0

    It is my understanding that the 3x series runs at a different voltage not suitable for USB keyboards.
    Teensy 3 uses 3.3v or 5v depending on how you mod it. It's useful for keyboards, haata's code runs on it.

    teensy 3 uses an ARM chip teensy 2 and ++ use atmel atmega chips. ARM is a different architechure so most code that runs on teensy2 and ++ will not run on Teensy 3

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 16:49:38
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 11 December 2014, 16:44:39
    Soarer's stuff is for the 2.0

    It is my understanding that the 3x series runs at a different voltage not suitable for USB keyboards.

    Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know if there is a difference between the 2.0 and 2.0++ other than the additional IO sockets?
    Teensy 3 uses a different chip, so firmware has to be made specifically for it. Soarers runs on Teensy++ but many others only run on teensy 2.

    Functionally the biggest difference is the more io pins but there are other differences too (more RAM, etc.)

    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:00:33
    Is first class international the best option for shipping keycaps overseas? When making labels on USPS.com, it only ever shows priority mail.  And if so, are bubble mailers safe? I'm scared at the thought of them getting crushed somewhere in transit and them arriving to the buyer in pieces.   :'(
    fcm-I is usually only a little bit cheaper than priority for international, takes longer and doesn't come with insurance. I recommend priority.

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 11 December 2014, 21:06:39
    Will any plate work with a KMAC PCB, or do I need a KMAC specific plate?

    Same question but about cases as well.
    KMAC 1 and LE plate is sandwiched between the case, so it's specific to KMAC. KMAC 2 can be PCB mounted in which case the plate will work only if it has holes in the proper locations for screws.

    In short: probably not.

    About cases: if you got a plate for the case, KMAC PCB will work only if the USB is in the right location on the case.

    In short: probably not.

    If you had a specific case in mind you can easily tell by looking at the location of the KMAC USB jack and the USB hole location of the case. If you find one that matches, get some dimensions or location of the USB hole in which case it may work.

    Note that the kmac 1 and LE PCB does not have holes in it to screw down to a case like most custom cases
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Thu, 11 December 2014, 22:59:07
    Where can I buy a 6.25x space bar wire?  GON's shipping is too much for a little thing like that

    I'm in the US.

    I got some from whiskeytango. maybe he has more.

    I need to order more of them: they are popular!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ithinkimkorean on Fri, 12 December 2014, 20:22:51
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-pcs-3mm-2pin-White-Round-top-Diffused-LED-Ships-from-USA-/281440400772?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418727b584

    Are these fine for keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 December 2014, 20:24:36
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Fri, 12 December 2014, 20:22:51
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-pcs-3mm-2pin-White-Round-top-Diffused-LED-Ships-from-USA-/281440400772?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418727b584

    Are these fine for keyboards?
    You may have to grind down an edge  so that the LEDs don't bind against the caps. You can look up some examples on GH. But they should work fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 12 December 2014, 20:40:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 December 2014, 20:24:36
    Quote from: ithinkimkorean on Fri, 12 December 2014, 20:22:51
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-pcs-3mm-2pin-White-Round-top-Diffused-LED-Ships-from-USA-/281440400772?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418727b584

    Are these fine for keyboards?
    You may have to grind down an edge  so that the LEDs don't bind against the caps. You can look up some examples on GH. But they should work fine.

    From my experience 3mm round will work fine with thin caps such as DCS and most stock abs caps.  Most thick caps will have some interference that can be fixed with a bit of work with some sandpaper or a file.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sat, 13 December 2014, 15:53:25
    is a KMAC PCB compatible with any other cases?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 13 December 2014, 16:42:10
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sat, 13 December 2014, 15:53:25
    is a KMAC PCB compatible with any other cases?
    As long as the USB port is in the right place
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cypherzion751 on Sat, 13 December 2014, 18:21:34
    Where can I get an aluminum body and plate for my Ducky Shine 2 full size keyboard?  If it has to be custom, any recommendations on where to get it from? Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Sat, 13 December 2014, 18:49:27
    Is the KBParadise V60 Mechanical Keyboard (Matias Quiet Click) compatible with 60% Aluminum Case - Blue (Tex)?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=987


    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=627

    Also is mechanicalkeyboards.com the cheapest place to get both of these?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 13 December 2014, 18:50:43
    Quote from: MGH on Sat, 13 December 2014, 18:49:27
    Is the KBParadise V60 Mechanical Keyboard (Matias Quiet Click) compatible with 60% Aluminum Case - Blue (Tex)?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=987


    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=627

    Also is mechanicalkeyboards.com the cheapest place to get both of these?

    99% sure not compatible. That was one of the objections brought up in their original thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 13 December 2014, 19:05:47
    Quote from: cypherzion751 on Sat, 13 December 2014, 18:21:34
    Where can I get an aluminum body and plate for my Ducky Shine 2 full size keyboard?  If it has to be custom, any recommendations on where to get it from? Thanks

    You'll have to design one yourself or commission one. There aren't any drop in cases or plates AFAIK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 13 December 2014, 20:50:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 13 December 2014, 19:05:47
    Quote from: cypherzion751 on Sat, 13 December 2014, 18:21:34
    Where can I get an aluminum body and plate for my Ducky Shine 2 full size keyboard?  If it has to be custom, any recommendations on where to get it from? Thanks

    You'll have to design one yourself or commission one. There aren't any drop in cases or plates AFAIK.

    ++

    there are no full alu cases for any ducky keyboard at current
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Sat, 13 December 2014, 21:29:20
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Sat, 13 December 2014, 18:50:43
    Quote from: MGH on Sat, 13 December 2014, 18:49:27
    Is the KBParadise V60 Mechanical Keyboard (Matias Quiet Click) compatible with 60% Aluminum Case - Blue (Tex)?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=987


    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=627

    Also is mechanicalkeyboards.com the cheapest place to get both of these?

    99% sure not compatible. That was one of the objections brought up in their original thread.
    Aww...guess I'll go with the stock plastic case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Sun, 14 December 2014, 15:54:30
    Can anyone confirm what kind of keycaps this keyboard has?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-POS-Programmable-Keyboard-w-Card-Reader-PS2-Black-G817000HPCUS2-NIB-/181605986088
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 14 December 2014, 16:29:45
    Quote from: MGH on Sun, 14 December 2014, 15:54:30
    Can anyone confirm what kind of keycaps this keyboard has?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-POS-Programmable-Keyboard-w-Card-Reader-PS2-Black-G817000HPCUS2-NIB-/181605986088

    MY.

    It says it on the back label.

    Still good for the caps, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 14 December 2014, 17:15:05
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 14 December 2014, 16:29:45
    Quote from: MGH on Sun, 14 December 2014, 15:54:30
    Can anyone confirm what kind of keycaps this keyboard has?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-POS-Programmable-Keyboard-w-Card-Reader-PS2-Black-G817000HPCUS2-NIB-/181605986088

    MY.

    It says it on the back label.

    Still good for the caps, though.

    He asked for what keycaps, not switches.

    The label says G81-7000HPCUS. The H means it's doubleshot ABS caps on the board (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 14 December 2014, 17:31:05
    Oh, my mistake.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derezzed on Sun, 14 December 2014, 20:10:49
    Occasionally, I see someone mention how much they love their Korean keyboard.  I've searched but I haven't found anything enlightening regarding Korean keyboard manufacturers.  Deskthority has a thread about OTD keyboards but it doesn't really answer my questions.  So, what characteristics set Korean keyboards apart from other keyboards; i.e. what makes Korean keyboards so special? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 20:26:30
    Quote from: derezzed on Sun, 14 December 2014, 20:10:49
    Occasionally, I see someone mention how much they love their Korean keyboard.  I've searched but I haven't found anything enlightening regarding Korean keyboard manufacturers.  Deskthority has a thread about OTD keyboards but it doesn't really answer my questions.  So, what characteristics set Korean keyboards apart from other keyboards; i.e. what makes Korean keyboards so special?
    Metal cases and plates, high quality PCBs, generally good overall build quality. Part of the high cost also comes from the small runs they do
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 14 December 2014, 20:42:54
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 20:26:30
    Quote from: derezzed on Sun, 14 December 2014, 20:10:49
    Occasionally, I see someone mention how much they love their Korean keyboard.  I've searched but I haven't found anything enlightening regarding Korean keyboard manufacturers.  Deskthority has a thread about OTD keyboards but it doesn't really answer my questions.  So, what characteristics set Korean keyboards apart from other keyboards; i.e. what makes Korean keyboards so special?
    Metal cases and plates, high quality PCBs, generally good overall build quality. Part of the high cost also comes from the small runs they do

    Also the DIY aspect of it. Building a keyboard is not a quick task, though it is pretty easy (and putting something together is LOADS of fun).

    Consider the fact that when people ask you who made your awesome keyboard, you can say "Oh, that? I built it myself!"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:03:23
    Has anyone noticed any other switches with raised stems like this one?
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7472/15838929827_5650e734a3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q8CE22)

    The black stem is from a clone alps switch off some bulgarian board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:06:20
    Show Image
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:03:23
    Has anyone noticed any other switches with raised stems like this one?
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7472/15838929827_5650e734a3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q8CE22)

    The black stem is from a clone alps switch off some bulgarian board

    Can I get the measurement for that? I'll check my XM ALPS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:09:57
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:06:20
    Show Image
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:03:23
    Has anyone noticed any other switches with raised stems like this one?
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7472/15838929827_5650e734a3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q8CE22)

    The black stem is from a clone alps switch off some bulgarian board

    Can I get the measurement for that? I'll check my XM ALPS.
    The orange from case top to stem top is 0.4 cm, black is 0.6 cm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:14:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:09:57
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:06:20
    Show Image
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:03:23
    Has anyone noticed any other switches with raised stems like this one?
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7472/15838929827_5650e734a3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q8CE22)

    The black stem is from a clone alps switch off some bulgarian board

    Can I get the measurement for that? I'll check my XM ALPS.
    The orange from case top to stem top is 0.4 cm, black is 0.6 cm

    My ruler has decided to go missing. I'll bring my 1087 to school tomorrow and check.

    I'm interested to see what's up with this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:17:33
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:09:57
    The orange from case top to stem top is 0.4 cm, black is 0.6 cm

    That is not a broken switch?

    It must wobble like crazy!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:19:21
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:17:33
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:09:57
    The orange from case top to stem top is 0.4 cm, black is 0.6 cm

    That is not a broken switch?

    It must wobble like crazy!
    You know, I thought that it would to, but it's only a tiny bit more than a standard height stem, not really noticeable when doing actual typing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 06:20:57
    Cross post from GH36 thread.

    Alright guys I need a touch of help with my GH36.  The key at row 2 col 5 does not want to work.  I checked it by shorting the corresponding pins on the teensy and that works fine.  If I hold down the offending switch nothing else in that row will work, however the rest of the column functions properly.  I really want to minimize desoldering the teensy again I only have 50/50 record so far of not lifting pads on them when removing.  Any ideas on where to start?

    If I need to post pics I can.  I have preformed the two cuts and the jumper as suggested by samwisekoi.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:04:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 06:20:57
    Alright guys I need a touch of help with my GH36.  The key at row 2 col 5 does not want to work.

    Did you replace try replacing the switch completely? Did you check the actual switch with a multimeter to see if your joints were ok?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:31:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:04:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 06:20:57
    Alright guys I need a touch of help with my GH36.  The key at row 2 col 5 does not want to work.

    Did you replace try replacing the switch completely? Did you check the actual switch with a multimeter to see if your joints were ok?

    I have not replaced the switch but I did remove and reinstall and checked the switch points with a multimeter.  The wierd part is when that switch is pressed nothing else in the row will register, but does register correctly otherwise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:33:30
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:31:44
    I have not replaced the switch but I did remove and reinstall and checked the switch points with a multimeter.  The wierd part is when that switch is pressed nothing else in the row will register, but does register correctly otherwise.

    You may want to resolder the Teensy or at least check the Teensy joints. Sounds like something is off there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:50:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:33:30
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:31:44
    I have not replaced the switch but I did remove and reinstall and checked the switch points with a multimeter.  The wierd part is when that switch is pressed nothing else in the row will register, but does register correctly otherwise.

    You may want to resolder the Teensy or at least check the Teensy joints. Sounds like something is off there.

    Did that as well. Had to in order to check the switch since the offending switch is under the teensy.  What are the chances that it is a backwards or bad diode?  The reason I am thinking this route is the behavior of the rest of the row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:53:15
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:50:35
    Did that as well. Had to in order to check the switch since the offending switch is under the teensy.  What are the chances that it is a backwards or bad diode?  The reason I am thinking this route is the behavior of the rest of the row.

    Couldn't hurt to check.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 15 December 2014, 11:50:24
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:14:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:09:57
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:06:20
    Show Image
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:03:23
    Has anyone noticed any other switches with raised stems like this one?
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7472/15838929827_5650e734a3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q8CE22)

    The black stem is from a clone alps switch off some bulgarian board

    Can I get the measurement for that? I'll check my XM ALPS.
    The orange from case top to stem top is 0.4 cm, black is 0.6 cm

    My ruler has decided to go missing. I'll bring my 1087 to school tomorrow and check.

    I'm interested to see what's up with this.

    0.4 average, so the same as the legit ALPS. One was 0.6, but its the broken switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 16:45:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:53:15
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 15 December 2014, 07:50:35
    Did that as well. Had to in order to check the switch since the offending switch is under the teensy.  What are the chances that it is a backwards or bad diode?  The reason I am thinking this route is the behavior of the rest of the row.

    Couldn't hurt to check.

    Got it working.  Turns out one of the "trace fixes" wasn't fixed and needed to broke real good.  After that works like a charm.  Now I just need to figure out what the wife wants for an actual layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:26:16
    Are there 60% buckling spring keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:26:47
    Quote from: MGH on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:26:16
    Are there 60% buckling spring keyboards?
    The kishsaver
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:32:08
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:26:47
    Quote from: MGH on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:26:16
    Are there 60% buckling spring keyboards?
    The kishsaver
    Also known as the IBM 6019284. It was found with the 4704 terminals used in banks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:37:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:32:08
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:26:47
    Quote from: MGH on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:26:16
    Are there 60% buckling spring keyboards?
    The kishsaver
    Also known as the IBM 6019284. It was found with the 4704 terminals used in banks.
    There was also that 60% M click clack found, although I don't even think that is worth mentioning without more info on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 16 December 2014, 04:14:59
    Hello. There are more dusty & dirty in my switch, especially in gold contact. How to clean it? Pls help me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 December 2014, 06:00:41
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Tue, 16 December 2014, 04:14:59
    Hello. There are more dusty & dirty in my switch, especially in gold contact. How to clean it? Pls help me
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1546039#msg1546039
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Tue, 16 December 2014, 15:52:26
    Do Ducky Minis use plate mounted or PCB mounted switches? I'm thinking of a little project for next year...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 16 December 2014, 16:15:35
    Quote from: katushkin on Tue, 16 December 2014, 15:52:26
    Do Ducky Minis use plate mounted or PCB mounted switches? I'm thinking of a little project for next year...

    Plate. It's the same PCB as a poker II.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Tue, 16 December 2014, 16:29:50
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 16 December 2014, 16:15:35
    Quote from: katushkin on Tue, 16 December 2014, 15:52:26
    Do Ducky Minis use plate mounted or PCB mounted switches? I'm thinking of a little project for next year...

    Plate. It's the same PCB as a poker II.

    Sweet. Thanks dude. I think a mini is going to be the chassis for my Cherry Replica set. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 16 December 2014, 18:43:39
    Anyone know what switches are in an NEC APC-H25?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 16 December 2014, 22:15:30
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:14:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:09:57
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:06:20
    Show Image
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:03:23
    Has anyone noticed any other switches with raised stems like this one?
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7472/15838929827_5650e734a3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q8CE22)

    The black stem is from a clone alps switch off some bulgarian board

    Can I get the measurement for that? I'll check my XM ALPS.
    The orange from case top to stem top is 0.4 cm, black is 0.6 cm

    My ruler has decided to go missing. I'll bring my 1087 to school tomorrow and check.

    I'm interested to see what's up with this.

    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:17:33
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:09:57
    The orange from case top to stem top is 0.4 cm, black is 0.6 cm

    That is not a broken switch?

    It must wobble like crazy!
    So just looked up the model on the back, the switches are Tai Hao APC semi mechanical
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mozaiq on Wed, 17 December 2014, 02:22:23
    A quick question regarding keycap profiles: deskthority says for DSA "The keycaps are 0.291" (7.39 mm), the same height as the home row of the OEM profile.", as well as SPs website. However WASD says their caps are OEM but the homerows height is 930mm/800mm. So which is correct? I guess the height numbers are correct, but I was wondering since I wouldn't consider this the same height.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 December 2014, 04:48:35
    Quote from: mozaiq on Wed, 17 December 2014, 02:22:23
    A quick question regarding keycap profiles: deskthority says for DSA "The keycaps are 0.291" (7.39 mm), the same height as the home row of the OEM profile.", as well as SPs website. However WASD says their caps are OEM but the homerows height is 930mm/800mm. So which is correct? I guess the height numbers are correct, but I was wondering since I wouldn't consider this the same height.


    OEM profile is a bit of a misnomer in my opinion. I interpret it as the tall height profile of stock Ducky/CM/Vortex/WASD caps. But I've had OEM caps from Leopold on my 700R that were not OEM or DSA height. Also remember that OEM caps are sculpted.

    But that aside, it looks like DSA isn't exactly the same as the OEM home row height

    From my own measurements (from base to top face keycap lip) :
    DSA = .304"
    Ducky OEM = .283" / .330"

    (http://i.imgur.com/Z7twYaT.jpg)

    Sorry for the potato. DSA on the left and OEM on the right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kohi on Wed, 17 December 2014, 12:10:48
    quick question about lubing springs - im planning on using victorinox multi tool oil (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Multi-Tool-Knife-Oil-Lubricant-Corrosion-0-17oz-4-3301-/371164690053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566b23b685) for 62g springs - so should I apply just a little bit to each end of the spring, or is it okay to put them all in a plastic bag + oil - and shake (I think someone wrote in a thread that they used this method as a shortcut?) and if so, what would be a good/okay amount?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 December 2014, 12:15:40
    Quote from: hojunski on Wed, 17 December 2014, 12:10:48
    quick question about lubing springs - im planning on using victorinox multi tool oil (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Multi-Tool-Knife-Oil-Lubricant-Corrosion-0-17oz-4-3301-/371164690053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566b23b685) for 62g springs - so should I apply just a little bit to each end of the spring, or is it okay to put them all in a plastic bag + oil - and shake (I think someone wrote in a thread that they used this method as a shortcut?) and if so, what would be a good/okay amount?

    Yup, you can throw everything into a baggie and it will work. Just use your best judgement. When they look coated just enough....like sauce and pasta :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kohi on Wed, 17 December 2014, 12:33:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 December 2014, 12:15:40
    Yup, you can throw everything into a baggie and it will work. Just use your best judgement. When they look coated just enough....like sauce and pasta :).

    ah okay, thank you. also, would lubing the springs get rid of some of the switch ping/resonating sounds? cause the stock clears on my board as of now have a consistent high pitched ping on every switch :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 December 2014, 12:39:37
    Quote from: hojunski on Wed, 17 December 2014, 12:33:46
    would lubing the springs get rid of some of the switch ping/resonating sounds? cause the stock clears on my board as of now have a consistent high pitched ping on every switch :confused:

    You could try it. I suggest putting drawer liner or foam between the PCB and case bottom. And also putting something underneath your board like a mousepad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Thu, 18 December 2014, 06:20:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 December 2014, 04:48:35
    Quote from: mozaiq on Wed, 17 December 2014, 02:22:23
    A quick question regarding keycap profiles: deskthority says for DSA "The keycaps are 0.291" (7.39 mm), the same height as the home row of the OEM profile.", as well as SPs website. However WASD says their caps are OEM but the homerows height is 930mm/800mm. So which is correct? I guess the height numbers are correct, but I was wondering since I wouldn't consider this the same height.


    OEM profile is a bit of a misnomer in my opinion. I interpret it as the tall height profile of stock Ducky/CM/Vortex/WASD caps. But I've had OEM caps from Leopold on my 700R that were not OEM or DSA height. Also remember that OEM caps are sculpted.

    But that aside, it looks like DSA isn't exactly the same as the OEM home row height

    From my own measurements (from base to top face keycap lip) :
    DSA = .304"
    Ducky OEM = .283" / .330"

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Z7twYaT.jpg)


    Sorry for the potato. DSA on the left and OEM on the right.

    Does Ducky OEM keycaps have crossbars inside ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Thu, 18 December 2014, 06:30:07
    Quote from: Lpwl on Thu, 18 December 2014, 06:20:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 December 2014, 04:48:35
    Quote from: mozaiq on Wed, 17 December 2014, 02:22:23
    A quick question regarding keycap profiles: deskthority says for DSA "The keycaps are 0.291" (7.39 mm), the same height as the home row of the OEM profile.", as well as SPs website. However WASD says their caps are OEM but the homerows height is 930mm/800mm. So which is correct? I guess the height numbers are correct, but I was wondering since I wouldn't consider this the same height.


    OEM profile is a bit of a misnomer in my opinion. I interpret it as the tall height profile of stock Ducky/CM/Vortex/WASD caps. But I've had OEM caps from Leopold on my 700R that were not OEM or DSA height. Also remember that OEM caps are sculpted.

    But that aside, it looks like DSA isn't exactly the same as the OEM home row height

    From my own measurements (from base to top face keycap lip) :
    DSA = .304"
    Ducky OEM = .283" / .330"

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Z7twYaT.jpg)


    Sorry for the potato. DSA on the left and OEM on the right.

    Does Ducky OEM keycaps have crossbars inside ?

    I believe so:

    (http://i.imgur.com/rkWzNrJ.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mozaiq on Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:21:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 December 2014, 04:48:35
    Quote from: mozaiq on Wed, 17 December 2014, 02:22:23
    A quick question regarding keycap profiles: deskthority says for DSA "The keycaps are 0.291" (7.39 mm), the same height as the home row of the OEM profile.", as well as SPs website. However WASD says their caps are OEM but the homerows height is 930mm/800mm. So which is correct? I guess the height numbers are correct, but I was wondering since I wouldn't consider this the same height.


    OEM profile is a bit of a misnomer in my opinion. I interpret it as the tall height profile of stock Ducky/CM/Vortex/WASD caps. But I've had OEM caps from Leopold on my 700R that were not OEM or DSA height. Also remember that OEM caps are sculpted.

    But that aside, it looks like DSA isn't exactly the same as the OEM home row height

    From my own measurements (from base to top face keycap lip) :
    DSA = .304"
    Ducky OEM = .283" / .330"

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Z7twYaT.jpg)


    Sorry for the potato. DSA on the left and OEM on the right.
    Thanks for the clarification.

    To throw in another question: I'm somewhat tempted to buy a KBT Race 2. Besides the different switches, I only found two versions of this board. Black with white backlighting and white with green backlighting. Is there any other version of this board currently available, especially one without LEDs? I know I can turn them off, but it's additional stuff to desolder if I wanted to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:27:00
    Quote from: mozaiq on Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:21:42
    To throw in another question: I'm somewhat tempted to buy a KBT Race 2. Is there any other version of this board currently available, especially one without LEDs?

    There should be a lighting mode in every backlit keyboard that keeps the lighting off. Other than that, I'm not sure if there is a non-backlit version. I don't think so. If you get it now, there are still a people who are offering free or cheap modding services that you can take advantage of. drhubblephd and Hoff come to mind, but you also have dorkvader, tjcaustin, and LastPilot. There's another fellow who does modding as well but I can't remember his username at the moment :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:46:40
    What's the best way to remove switches from a plate? My fingers are in so much pain :S
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:52:09
    Quote from: Pemdas on Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:46:40
    What's the best way to remove switches from a plate? My fingers are in so much pain :S

    That depends on whether you mind marking them. Fingers are the most gentle, but needlenose pliers work well if you aren't concerned with some gouges here and there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:58:32
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:52:09
    Quote from: Pemdas on Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:46:40
    What's the best way to remove switches from a plate? My fingers are in so much pain :S

    That depends on whether you mind marking them. Fingers are the most gentle, but needlenose pliers work well if you aren't concerned with some gouges here and there.

    I use precision flat head screwdrivers.  I have found the don't scratch annodized finish but they can scratch thin paint
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 18 December 2014, 22:11:53
    Quote from: Pemdas on Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:46:40
    What's the best way to remove switches from a plate? My fingers are in so much pain :S

    I tried precision flat head screwdrivers at first.  They worked but marked up my plate a little bit. 

    Then someone told me to try a IC Extractor like this --> http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTIC-IC-EXTRACTION-TOOL-CHIP-EXTRACTOR-/120726399420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1bdaa9bc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTIC-IC-EXTRACTION-TOOL-CHIP-EXTRACTOR-/120726399420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1bdaa9bc)

    The Extractor worked much better for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 18 December 2014, 23:48:37
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 18 December 2014, 22:11:53
    Quote from: Pemdas on Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:46:40
    What's the best way to remove switches from a plate? My fingers are in so much pain :S

    I tried precision flat head screwdrivers at first.  They worked but marked up my plate a little bit. 

    Then someone told me to try a IC Extractor like this --> http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTIC-IC-EXTRACTION-TOOL-CHIP-EXTRACTOR-/120726399420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1bdaa9bc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTIC-IC-EXTRACTION-TOOL-CHIP-EXTRACTOR-/120726399420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1bdaa9bc)

    The Extractor worked much better for me.

    Awesome just the type of thing I was looking for  :thumb: ordered and thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 19 December 2014, 03:25:20
    I use a nylon stick. Lift up once side and insert left thumbnail to keep it from clicking in. Then I pop the other side.

    Easy, fast, and won't scratch up the expensive plate you're working on.

    I use ones like these:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/280877670711
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Fri, 19 December 2014, 03:43:57
    what size 40% kibord?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Fri, 19 December 2014, 04:52:00
    Quote from: Pemdas on Thu, 18 December 2014, 23:48:37
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 18 December 2014, 22:11:53
    Quote from: Pemdas on Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:46:40
    What's the best way to remove switches from a plate? My fingers are in so much pain :S

    I tried precision flat head screwdrivers at first.  They worked but marked up my plate a little bit. 

    Then someone told me to try a IC Extractor like this --> http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTIC-IC-EXTRACTION-TOOL-CHIP-EXTRACTOR-/120726399420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1bdaa9bc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTIC-IC-EXTRACTION-TOOL-CHIP-EXTRACTOR-/120726399420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1bdaa9bc)

    The Extractor worked much better for me.

    Awesome just the type of thing I was looking for  :thumb: ordered and thanks!

    GON is explaining pretty well how to use that IC extractor and modify it to perform better :

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 19 December 2014, 15:50:36
    Quote from: dorkvader on Fri, 19 December 2014, 03:25:20
    I use a nylon stick. Lift up once side and insert left thumbnail to keep it from clicking in. Then I pop the other side.

    Easy, fast, and won't scratch up the expensive plate you're working on.

    I use ones like these:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/280877670711

    I'm going to try this.  Great suggestion  :)

    Even though the IC Extractor worked better for me then precision flat heads.  They still cause little scratches if I'm not careful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Fri, 19 December 2014, 17:49:32
    Does anyone know what numberpads have NKRO?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 19 December 2014, 18:12:47
    Has anyone sucessfully gotten an F to function over USB that had an 8 channel capsense chip and not swapping the internals?  Soarers only works with the 4 channel versions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 December 2014, 19:32:16
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 19 December 2014, 18:12:47
    Has anyone sucessfully gotten an F to function over USB that had an 8 channel capsense chip and not swapping the internals?  Soarers only works with the 4 channel versions.

    Simple questions man. Simple. I'm sure you'll get much better replies in your thread.

    Quote from: MGH on Fri, 19 December 2014, 17:49:32
    Does anyone know what numberpads have NKRO?

    I don't know off the top of my head but I don't see why they wouldn't be.... Actually the GHPad should be.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 19 December 2014, 19:37:11
    FYI: I've had a couple people ask me about issues with avatar images successfully having a transparent background (like mine).

    Make sure you follow the usual rules/methods to make transparent images, and most importantly, scale the image down to 100x100 pixels.  It should almost certainly solve any issues you might be having.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sat, 20 December 2014, 09:06:29
    I'm harvesting few keyboards ,
    on this one : http://imgur.com/a/VAmfH , only the keycaps are worth right ?

    http://imgur.com/a/pCowk , something worth keeping besides switches , stabilizers and keycaps ?

    And apple M2980 (rubberdome with alps sliders ) , something interesting to keep here ?


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 20 December 2014, 09:47:48
    On the 3006, the case is worth a little. Maybe 5-10EUR if in good condition. The PCB/switches are worth nothing though.

    On the Wyse the PCB/plate/case might be worth something to somebody.. but I'm not sure if you could find a buyer easily.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sat, 20 December 2014, 10:40:29
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 20 December 2014, 09:47:48
    On the 3006, the case is worth a little. Maybe 5-10EUR if in good condition. The PCB/switches are worth nothing though.

    On the Wyse the PCB/plate/case might be worth something to somebody.. but I'm not sure if you could find a buyer easily.
    Ok thanks .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 21 December 2014, 09:17:18
    Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 20 December 2014, 09:06:29

    And apple M2980 (rubberdome with alps sliders ) , something interesting to keep here ?


    I do not know about later Apple model numbers, but if it is an early "Design Keyboard" (my experience is that the ones with detachable cables have Alps-compatible caps, and the ones with attached cables do not) then it probably has very nice quality PBT caps, albeit with the usual Apple silliness like legend fonts and rotated mounts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jacobolus on Sun, 21 December 2014, 21:25:26
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 21 December 2014, 09:17:18
    Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 20 December 2014, 09:06:29
    And apple M2980 (rubberdome with alps sliders ) , something interesting to keep here ?
    [...] then it probably has very nice quality PBT caps, albeit with the usual Apple silliness like legend fonts and rotated mounts.
    Nice caps, but non-standard layout so beyond the 1u keys the caps are a bit tough to use in other contexts. There are no rotated mounts on these. The legends are fine; fohat’s taste in typography is just stuck on whatever IBM did in the 80s. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 21 December 2014, 23:42:35
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 19 December 2014, 03:43:57
    what size 40% kibord?

    (http://i.imgur.com/54PcdY7.jpg)
    Smallfry or JD40 is 40%

    I have some plates and can measure the length/width if you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kohi on Mon, 22 December 2014, 18:16:27
    does anyone know where I can get cheap/decent flush wire cutters? (primarily to cut LED leads)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 22 December 2014, 23:19:47
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sun, 21 December 2014, 23:42:35
    Quote from: yasuo on Fri, 19 December 2014, 03:43:57
    what size 40% kibord?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/54PcdY7.jpg)

    Smallfry or JD40 is 40%

    I have some plates and can measure the length/width if you want.
    yup :thumb: i plan make 40% width around:27cm lenght:9cm
    not sure if its same with SF/JD 40%
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:45:41
    Is there a Model M 122 ISO-to-ANSI mod guide anywhere? Is that even a thing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Tue, 23 December 2014, 08:10:07
    Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:45:41
    Is there a Model M 122 ISO-to-ANSI mod guide anywhere? Is that even a thing?

    ezrahilyer mentions doing the conversions here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65960.0) but there isn't a guide.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 23 December 2014, 09:40:53
    If you are doing a bolt-mod anyway, you simply do the same thing I showed in my F-122 guide:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48786.msg1338079#msg1338079 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48786.msg1338079#msg1338079)

    http://i.imgur.com/qUD0B.jpg[/img]](http://i.imgur.com/qUD0B.jpg) (http://[img width=640 height=446)

    http://i.imgur.com/4xZSv.jpg[/img]](http://i.imgur.com/4xZSv.jpg) (http://[img width=640 height=450)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PunksDead on Tue, 23 December 2014, 16:50:27
    need a quick solution for a right shift issue with my KBP V60, no matter what dipswitch settings i use i cannot get the right shift to capitalize letters. anyone have a solution? all it does is jump the cursor up a line. Googling does nothing

    *they are stuck acting as arrow keys, shift = up fn=down, ctrl = right

    Fn+return swaps the arrow keys around finally found my answer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 24 December 2014, 00:46:40
    Quote from: hojunski on Mon, 22 December 2014, 18:16:27
    does anyone know where I can get cheap/decent flush wire cutters? (primarily to cut LED leads)

    what country are you in?

    Good deals on used lindstrom can be had on US ebay all the time. Swanstrom as well. Might have to sharpen them a little.
    I have these and they are great: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221289833369

    I might have a spare set: will have to check.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Wed, 24 December 2014, 09:59:06
    Can anyone link me a guide that Hipsterpunks did about removing the HHKB logo on his Type - S? I suck at searching for old posts on GH and I'm planning on ordering a HHKB soon and want to get rid of that logo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 24 December 2014, 11:43:27
    Quote from: moralles on Wed, 24 December 2014, 09:59:06
    Can anyone link me a guide that Hipsterpunks did about removing the HHKB logo on his Type - S? I suck at searching for old posts on GH and I'm planning on ordering a HHKB soon and want to get rid of that logo.
    http://imgur.com/a/NJVI9
    He just used an emery board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mozaiq on Wed, 24 December 2014, 16:05:23
    A quick question regarding spring weights, since I found misleading information on the web. Cherry MX Green switches use heavier springs (80cn) than blacks (60cn), right? The problem is that I'm not sure whether the numbers I found refer to just the stiffness of the spring (which is what I want to know) or whether it is the force it takes activate the complete switch, which of course is higher for greens due to the bump. Or to put it in other words: can one feel a difference between ghetto greens and "real" greens?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Wed, 24 December 2014, 20:34:54
    I'm looking into getting a raspberry pi specifically for retropie for old school games. I have found some tutorials but I was wondering if anyone had any personal experience setting this up and how well it would work with composite cables. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 24 December 2014, 20:58:46
    Quote from: mozaiq on Wed, 24 December 2014, 16:05:23
    A quick question regarding spring weights, since I found misleading information on the web. Cherry MX Green switches use heavier springs (80cn) than blacks (60cn), right? The problem is that I'm not sure whether the numbers I found refer to just the stiffness of the spring (which is what I want to know) or whether it is the force it takes activate the complete switch, which of course is higher for greens due to the bump. Or to put it in other words: can one feel a difference between ghetto greens and "real" greens?
    About spring of Cherry MX Black & Green is similar. It's 60cN. But actuation force of Green is stronger than Black because Black is linear, Green is clicky (have part tactile).
     About feel Ghetto Green is same with Green, but we can easy to get Ghetto Green & it's is cheaper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Wed, 24 December 2014, 22:05:01
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Wed, 24 December 2014, 20:34:54
    I'm looking into getting a raspberry pi specifically for retropie for old school games. I have found some tutorials but I was wondering if anyone had any personal experience setting this up and how well it would work with composite cables. Thanks!

    Can't speak to the composite cables, since I hooked it up with HDMI, but setup and documentation online is really good for setting up RetroPi, and it was really easy overall.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 24 December 2014, 22:09:57
    This. What is? (8 pins)

    (http://i.imgur.com/QBOlLFx.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 25 December 2014, 01:09:32
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 24 December 2014, 22:09:57
    This. What is? (8 pins)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/QBOlLFx.jpg)


    Proprietary Tandy pinout for their systems.  The only way to make it work that I know of is with Haata's Kiibohd project, but I'm not sure where the documentation for that keyboard is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 25 December 2014, 01:11:28
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 25 December 2014, 01:09:32
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 24 December 2014, 22:09:57
    This. What is? (8 pins)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/QBOlLFx.jpg)


    Proprietary Tandy pinout for their systems.  The only way to make it work that I know of is with Haata's Kiibohd project, but I'm not sure where the documentation for that keyboard is.
    Cool, I'll see if I can find that. Want to be able to use this thing, good size and pretty nice switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 25 December 2014, 18:02:24
    http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/files/spring-rate-chart.jpg?1061

    I don't get this picture.  Cherry light must be something like red or browns but they are supposed to be 40-45g actuation force but this picture shows 50g actuation force.  Also clears are supposed to be 55g actuation force but this picture shows them as 65g actuation force.  If I understand correctly the "originative" springs are korean springs which are measured from the bottom.  I'm wondering how 55g koreans compare to reds/browns?  Surely they are a little lighter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 December 2014, 20:05:59


    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 25 December 2014, 18:02:24
    http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/files/spring-rate-chart.jpg?1061

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0

    Sheraton ripped that from rkinze's article. If you click on the link, there's an in depth explanation for the chart.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 25 December 2014, 21:05:35
    I have a Rosewill RK9000 I got from IvanIvanovich.  I got it with a mini usb -> PS/2 cable.  If I swapped that out with a standard USB cable would there be any issues or does it need an adapter?  Or is the PS/2-> USB adapter just a plug change and nothing with the protocol?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Fri, 26 December 2014, 04:35:06
    Is GON the only place to buy universal 60% plates?

    http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Fri, 26 December 2014, 17:27:38
    Quote from: MGH on Fri, 26 December 2014, 04:35:06
    Is GON the only place to buy universal 60% plates?

    http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html

    Also how does Acrylic plates compare to metal plates?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 26 December 2014, 17:30:34
    Quote from: MGH on Fri, 26 December 2014, 17:27:38
    Quote from: MGH on Fri, 26 December 2014, 04:35:06
    Is GON the only place to buy universal 60% plates?

    http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html

    Also how does Acrylic plates compare to metal plates?

    You can get plates through various group buys when they come around.  Feng has done several for anodized aluminum plates.

    Acrylic plates are thicker with more flex.  Due to their thickness, they don't fit the switches as well (IMO) and they may rest on the PCB.  I'm not a huge fan of acrylic plates, though I can see why some people like them since they can look nicer with LEDs and they're supposed to be acoustically better for clicky switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Sat, 27 December 2014, 01:12:27
    Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 26 December 2014, 17:30:34
    Acrylic plates are thicker with more flex.  Due to their thickness, they don't fit the switches as well (IMO) and they may rest on the PCB.  I'm not a huge fan of acrylic plates, though I can see why some people like them since they can look nicer with LEDs and they're supposed to be acoustically better for clicky switches.
    And generally much cheaper than Al/SS plates. The switches down't lock in since the plates aren't 1.5mm (This thickness of acrylic is prone to a lot of flex and snapping easily), but they do stay in place and serve the purpose. Also stabs are complicated, the best situation is to use PCB mounted stabs and have the adequate clearing in the acrylic for them, along with the clearance for the stab wires (Since the plate is thick it interferes with the stab wire).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Sat, 27 December 2014, 03:41:48
    Are the backplate slots in the old IBM computers for example the 5160 the same size and make as current pcie backplates (talking about the metal backplate slot doobie and nothing to do with the actually pcie isa connection to the motherboard).

    *I think they may be called brackets sorry for the stupid
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 27 December 2014, 10:00:24
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

    Is this lube similar to geekhack "thick" lube?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 27 December 2014, 10:08:21
    Nope.  That's stabilizer lube, it's not for lubing the inside of switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 27 December 2014, 11:37:46
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 27 December 2014, 10:00:24
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

    Is this lube similar to geekhack "thick" lube?

    I think they claim that their other lube (one with the red label) can be used for swiich sliders. Not sure how well it works though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 27 December 2014, 23:33:03
    Any suggestions for font settings for use at http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/ to simulate DSA font the closest?  I am asking because I am going to use that tool for initial mockups for my most recent IC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 28 December 2014, 00:52:40
    Any ideas how to load .hex files onto an Arudino Leonardo? I've been using a Teensy which comes with the software but I went with Leonardos since they are a whole lot cheaper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Sun, 28 December 2014, 06:56:02
    Press reset button and then run avrdude with correct serial device name  *within 8 seconds*. Note that serial port name may be changed often.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14290.msg1563867#msg1563867
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Mon, 29 December 2014, 00:12:33
    Are there center stemmed black on beige doubleshot cherry caps locks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 29 December 2014, 14:03:45
    Quote from: MGH on Mon, 29 December 2014, 00:12:33
    Are there center stemmed black on beige doubleshot cherry caps locks?

    Nope. Techkeys had something similar from SP for a while, but I don't know if they still do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: billnye on Mon, 29 December 2014, 14:06:13
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 29 December 2014, 14:03:45
    Quote from: MGH on Mon, 29 December 2014, 00:12:33
    Are there center stemmed black on beige doubleshot cherry caps locks?

    Nope. Techkeys had something similar from SP for a while, but I don't know if they still do.

    Yes there are.

    Look for a board such as a G80-3190 HPU

    (http://i.imgur.com/l2MQo.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 29 December 2014, 14:11:39
    Oh, I assumed he meant stepped.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Mon, 29 December 2014, 14:12:40
    Or G80-3181HPU.. there's a bunch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: loudaslife on Mon, 29 December 2014, 18:07:05
    Is there any reason that most common Mechs can't be modded for NKRO? By that I mean cutting solder traces in the matrix and connecting diodes in their place. Obviously the controller has to support NKRO, but aside from that is there any reason it wouldn't work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 29 December 2014, 19:04:38
    Quote from: loudaslife on Mon, 29 December 2014, 18:07:05
    Is there any reason that most common Mechs can't be modded for NKRO? By that I mean cutting solder traces in the matrix and connecting diodes in their place. Obviously the controller has to support NKRO, but aside from that is there any reason it wouldn't work?

    The only part that knows about NKRO is the controller so there is no reason you can't mod any keyboard with diodes and a new controller as you are suggesting.  Sounds like you're jumping in at the deep end much like I did not long ago, see you in the "making stuff together!" section :)



    Unrelated to the above I have some questions.

    I've had a week or so using my first real keyboard (a Ducky Zero with red MX switches and ABS keycaps) and have two issues with it.

    First, it's noisy.  I went with non clicky switches in the hope it wouldn't be, but it's still much louder than my old Cherry membrane keyboard.  From what I've read this is probably because I'm bottoming out the switches - would O rings help?  Or perhaps getting some thicker (PBT?) keycaps would dampen the sound?

    Second, it's very sensitive so I keep clipping the corner of the key next to the one I want resulting in unwanted keypresses.  I think this is because the switches are too light for me but is there anything I can do about it?  It's plate mount so a spring transplant is not an option.

    Seems likely both problems would be solved if I learned to type better but I still have to use a cheap keyboard at work so that's going to be hard, instead I'm going to take the easy option and throw money at the problem in the hope it goes away!  (If this board can't be made suitable I'll buy another one...)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Mon, 29 December 2014, 21:41:55
    Is there a list of custom keyboards (or just aluminum cases) where the slant of the keyboard is small (not exactly sure measurements but somewhere between 0 and 5 degrees)? Somewhere around the slant that most stock keyboards have without the feet lifted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 30 December 2014, 01:35:39
    Is there anywhere that gives discounts on bulk orders of MX switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 30 December 2014, 01:56:32
    Quote from: MGH on Mon, 29 December 2014, 21:41:55
    Is there a list of custom keyboards (or just aluminum cases) where the slant of the keyboard is small (not exactly sure measurements but somewhere between 0 and 5 degrees)? Somewhere around the slant that most stock keyboards have without the feet lifted.
    Only ones you will find like that are ones which use aluminium feet, but with the feet removed. Like KMAC 1, Kingsaver.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Tue, 30 December 2014, 02:23:57
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 30 December 2014, 01:56:32
    Quote from: MGH on Mon, 29 December 2014, 21:41:55
    Is there a list of custom keyboards (or just aluminum cases) where the slant of the keyboard is small (not exactly sure measurements but somewhere between 0 and 5 degrees)? Somewhere around the slant that most stock keyboards have without the feet lifted.
    Only ones you will find like that are ones which use aluminium feet, but with the feet removed. Like KMAC 1, Kingsaver.
    Bleh, I doubt I'll ever find one of those. Stock board with tex case it is :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:54:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 30 December 2014, 01:35:39
    Is there anywhere that gives discounts on bulk orders of MX switches?

    cherry

    and i think conrad does it as well

    no idea tho
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:57:31
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:54:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 30 December 2014, 01:35:39
    Is there anywhere that gives discounts on bulk orders of MX switches?

    cherry

    and i think conrad does it as well

    no idea tho

    Cherry definitely does, but the qty is something like 20,000 units or something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 30 December 2014, 14:04:54
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 30 December 2014, 01:35:39
    Is there anywhere that gives discounts on bulk orders of MX switches?

    Digikey.com and mouser.com do as well I believe, though i think it is for smaller orders and less of a discount than ordering from cherry but no MOQ.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kohi on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:08:26
    is there a big difference between the thick and very thick krytox switch lubricant formulas sold on techkeys (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant). im trying to find thick formula to lube mx clears but it seems to be out of stock everywhere
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: crunch on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:12:10
    I only have this picture of a white space invader switch. I've read that it exits both a linear and clicky version, can you tell which one this is.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:14:40
    Quote from: crunch on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:12:10
    I only have this picture of a white space invader switch. I've read that it exits both a linear and clicky version, can you tell which one this is.
    Both the linear and the clicky versions come in white color and with the two "eyes" on the top. Outside of that, I'm not sure there's any other way to distinguish them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bakgrund on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:34:17
    Is the tactile bump on browns as big as they are on blues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:35:10
    Physically on the stem yes, but in feel, I don't feel like it is the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:57:37
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:35:10
    Physically on the stem yes, but in feel, I don't feel like it is the same.

    ++

    this
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 30 December 2014, 17:41:32
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:57:31
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:54:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 30 December 2014, 01:35:39
    Is there anywhere that gives discounts on bulk orders of MX switches?

    cherry

    and i think conrad does it as well

    no idea tho

    Cherry definitely does, but the qty is something like 20,000 units or something.

    Would 7bit offer any discount?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 30 December 2014, 18:52:44
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 30 December 2014, 17:41:32
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:57:31
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:54:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 30 December 2014, 01:35:39
    Is there anywhere that gives discounts on bulk orders of MX switches?

    cherry

    and i think conrad does it as well

    no idea tho

    Cherry definitely does, but the qty is something like 20,000 units or something.

    Would 7bit offer any discount?

    i dunno

    ask him
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bakgrund on Wed, 31 December 2014, 16:57:39
    Not really keyboard related but how do you make these small keyboard pics that everybody has in their signatures? like here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67195.msg1577835#msg1577835
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 31 December 2014, 17:50:06
    Quote from: Bakgrund on Wed, 31 December 2014, 16:57:39
    Not really keyboard related but how do you make these small keyboard pics that everybody has in their signatures? like here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67195.msg1577835#msg1577835
    Are you asking about how to actually make these? Or where to find them?
    I'm not sure how they're made but it's called pixel art if that helps, maybe Google it?

    Sorry I'm on mobile right now so I can't link it but we have a thread somewhere where you can find or request pixel art keyboard pictures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bakgrund on Wed, 31 December 2014, 18:06:57
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 31 December 2014, 17:50:06
    Quote from: Bakgrund on Wed, 31 December 2014, 16:57:39
    Not really keyboard related but how do you make these small keyboard pics that everybody has in their signatures? like here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67195.msg1577835#msg1577835
    Are you asking about how to actually make these? Or where to find them?
    I'm not sure how they're made but it's called pixel art if that helps, maybe Google it?

    Sorry I'm on mobile right now so I can't link it but we have a thread somewhere where you can find or request pixel art keyboard pictures.

    Oh, I thought that it was like a site you could make them on, as they are all so similar and well-made, but I guess I'll just have to spend some time in MS paint.

    Edit: Ok, I took sealcouch's filco pixelart (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=19113.0) and edited it a bit, here's the final result:

    (http://i.imgur.com/prsXel3.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Wed, 31 December 2014, 22:23:43
    Just want to make sure, is this the cheapest non DIY wire keycap puller?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=949
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 December 2014, 22:33:17
    Quote from: MGH on Wed, 31 December 2014, 22:23:43
    Just want to make sure, is this the cheapest non DIY wire keycap puller?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=949

    pretty much
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: malganis on Thu, 01 January 2015, 05:11:25
    Hey guys.

    Any idea about where in Europe I could get a CM Storm QuickFire Rapid-I with MX Brown and ANSI layout?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 01 January 2015, 16:51:15
    Does a metal DSA set exist?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 16:57:23
    Quote from: Pemdas on Thu, 01 January 2015, 16:51:15
    Does a metal DSA set exist?
    Nope, zinc has only been done in DCS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 01 January 2015, 19:08:26
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 16:57:23
    Quote from: Pemdas on Thu, 01 January 2015, 16:51:15
    Does a metal DSA set exist?
    Nope, zinc has only been done in DCS

    Actually it was OEM, not DCS

    I think it was based originally off of vortex's caps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 22:47:11
    So what does this"diffuser" (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=286&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9) do in relation the actual case (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=278&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Fri, 02 January 2015, 01:51:09
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 22:47:11
    So what does this"diffuser" (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=286&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9) do in relation the actual case (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=278&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9)

    I wasn't aware the Koreans had picked up on my design using two flat heads screws and a hex stand-off. Achievement unlocked.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Fri, 02 January 2015, 02:17:17
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 22:47:11
    So what does this"diffuser" (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=286&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9) do in relation the actual case (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=278&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9)

    That is a very nice case. Any idea if this would fit a GHpad pcb? If you want to do a mini-group buy for a couple, I would be interested!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 02 January 2015, 02:28:11
    Quote from: byker on Fri, 02 January 2015, 02:17:17
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 22:47:11
    So what does this"diffuser" (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=286&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9) do in relation the actual case (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=278&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9)

    That is a very nice case. Any idea if this would fit a GHpad pcb? If you want to do a mini-group buy for a couple, I would be interested!
    with these cases, there is some space between the numbers and the top row which makes me believe that it wouldn't fit. But there are also places to get the proper PCBs for $20 something. One of my friends at school is a foreign exchange student from Korea. He was just there for the holidays, but I might get some stuff for him to bring back the next time to save on shipping. Not sure how much he could bring though :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Fri, 02 January 2015, 02:59:00
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 02 January 2015, 02:28:11
    Quote from: byker on Fri, 02 January 2015, 02:17:17
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 22:47:11
    So what does this"diffuser" (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=286&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9) do in relation the actual case (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=278&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9)

    That is a very nice case. Any idea if this would fit a GHpad pcb? If you want to do a mini-group buy for a couple, I would be interested!
    with these cases, there is some space between the numbers and the top row which makes me believe that it wouldn't fit. But there are also places to get the proper PCBs for $20 something. One of my friends at school is a foreign exchange student from Korea. He was just there for the holidays, but I might get some stuff for him to bring back the next time to save on shipping. Not sure how much he could bring though :p

    Yeah I was thinking that space by the upper row could cause some difficulties! Let me know if you are decide to go through with getting them someday and want to split shipping..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 02 January 2015, 14:16:44
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 22:47:11
    So what does this"diffuser" (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=286&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9) do in relation the actual case (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=278&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9)

    Diffuses the light so that it's softer.

    It's trendy right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 02 January 2015, 14:27:00
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 02 January 2015, 14:16:44
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 22:47:11
    So what does this"diffuser" (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=286&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9) do in relation the actual case (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=278&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9)

    Diffuses the light so that it's softer.

    It's trendy right now.

    Did you click the links?  Every product shot is identical between the two...  The only difference in photos is what appears to be the make-up of the layers, though it's not clear without a solid translation what the difference is.  Or maybe I'm misinterpreting hwood's initial question.  :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 02 January 2015, 14:30:17
    of course i clicked the links

    my ****ty korean skills got me to the answer that i gave

    the "diffuser" is a frosted bit of acrylic that replaces some part of the case

    that's why it's only $7 and not $14 like the whole case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 02 January 2015, 14:30:30
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 02 January 2015, 14:27:00
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 02 January 2015, 14:16:44
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 01 January 2015, 22:47:11
    So what does this"diffuser" (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=286&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9) do in relation the actual case (http://hanaacryl.com/product/?no=278&s_category=132&search=YToyOntzOjg6ImNhdGVnb3J5IjtzOjM6IjEzMiI7czo4OiJwYWdlc2l6ZSI7aToyMDt9)

    Diffuses the light so that it's softer.

    It's trendy right now.

    Did you click the links?  Every product shot is identical between the two...  The only difference in photos is what appears to be the make-up of the layers, though it's not clear without a solid translation what the difference is.  Or maybe I'm misinterpreting hwood's initial question.  :P
    No, he had the right idea. I was asking because they used the same pictures for the diffuser as they did for the actual case.
    And are there any pictures of the differences?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 02 January 2015, 14:32:07
    i'd check kbdlab

    i think i've seen some there

    can't find them again tho
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 02 January 2015, 17:04:43
    What controller should I get to program my HHKB with dvorak?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Fri, 02 January 2015, 19:40:47
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 02 January 2015, 17:04:43
    What controller should I get to program my HHKB with dvorak?

    I would look at hasu's controller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 02 January 2015, 19:48:38
    Quote from: byker on Fri, 02 January 2015, 19:40:47
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 02 January 2015, 17:04:43
    What controller should I get to program my HHKB with dvorak?

    I would look at hasu's controller.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Fri, 02 January 2015, 23:37:09
    How heavy ( not switch weight) Is the hhkb, leopold f660c, and poker II?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 02 January 2015, 23:49:17
    Quote from: MGH on Fri, 02 January 2015, 23:37:09
    How heavy ( not switch weight) Is the hhkb, leopold f660c, and poker II?

    EK says HHKB is: 530g (1 lb 3oz)

    EK says FC660C is: 700g

    WFD says Poker II is: 1lb 5oz
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spale on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:40:28
    Can anyone tell me is this keyboard mechanic or not? Its ES COM at its black that all I see :)

    https://www.kupujemprodajem.com/big-photo-18090231-1.htm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:44:18
    I have a iKBC 104 and it is plate mounted.  However the stabs are also plate mounted.  Isn't this quite rare?  I've only heard of pcb stabs.  I ****ed up in the clipping of one of them and so far I've only found pcb mount stab replacements online.  Are there nowhere plate mounted stabs available?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:47:37
    Quote from: spale on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:40:28
    Can anyone tell me is this keyboard mechanic or not? Its ES COM at its black that all I see :)

    https://www.kupujemprodajem.com/big-photo-18090231-1.htm
    there's no way to know for sure, but judging by the fact that it looks like a somewhat modern board and I can't find any information at all on the company, my guess is rubber dome. I wouldn't chance it either way

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:44:18
    I have a iKBC 104 and it is plate mounted.  However the stabs are also plate mounted.  Isn't this quite rare?  I've only heard of pcb stabs.  I ****ed up in the clipping of one of them and so far I've only found pcb mount stab replacements online.  Are there nowhere plate mounted stabs available?
    WASD has the clips; mouser sells plate mount stabs, but only in relatively bulk quantities. And they're not too rare considering that plate mount boards come with plate mount stabs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spale on Sat, 03 January 2015, 17:32:47
    Thx for answer, will skip it then, dont want any more rubber :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 03 January 2015, 17:54:14
    Quote from: spale on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:40:28
    Can anyone tell me is this keyboard mechanic or not? Its ES COM at its black that all I see :)

    https://www.kupujemprodajem.com/big-photo-18090231-1.htm

    Quote from: spale on Sat, 03 January 2015, 17:32:47
    Thx for answer, will skip it then, dont want any more rubber :)

    yeah that's probably right

    doubtful it's mechanical
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Sat, 03 January 2015, 19:59:03
    Is there any place to get 6u spacebars? Preferably dsa and pbt, though they do not have to be. They are going with my hacker infinity keyboard I have received and that I will be using granite with.

    So far all I have found is the massdrop infinity keycap set which I unfortunately did not buy as I was not planning on getting the board at the time. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-dye-sublimated-keycap-set?s=infin
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bowji on Sat, 03 January 2015, 20:30:43
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sat, 03 January 2015, 19:59:03
    Is there any place to get 6u spacebars? Preferably dsa and pbt, though they do not have to be. They are going with my hacker infinity keyboard I have received and that I will be using granite with.

    So far all I have found is the massdrop infinity keycap set which I unfortunately did not buy as I was not planning on getting the board at the time. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-dye-sublimated-keycap-set?s=infin

    There used to be some in the PMK overstock keyshop, but for some reason I cant find the link anymore. Try shoot them an email, you never know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Sat, 03 January 2015, 21:15:42
    Quote from: bowji on Sat, 03 January 2015, 20:30:43
    Quote from: Smasher816 on Sat, 03 January 2015, 19:59:03
    Is there any place to get 6u spacebars? Preferably dsa and pbt, though they do not have to be. They are going with my hacker infinity keyboard I have received and that I will be using granite with.

    So far all I have found is the massdrop infinity keycap set which I unfortunately did not buy as I was not planning on getting the board at the time. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-dye-sublimated-keycap-set?s=infin

    There used to be some in the PMK overstock keyshop, but for some reason I cant find the link anymore. Try shoot them an email, you never know.

    I emailed Melissa back in October when I was thinking about the board and got this reply.
    Quote
    We can mold the 6 unit spacebar in PBT, unfortunately we don't have any in stock and we have a minimum order value of $100 for anything that needs to be manufactured...

    I sent her an email about abs or any other kinds of 6u spacebars, and we'll see how that goes. For everyone else, I am still open to other avenues I can explore.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Sat, 03 January 2015, 23:44:25
    Is it possible to program Gons Nerd controller with spaceFN or ctrl+esc style dual keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spale on Sun, 04 January 2015, 11:09:41
    Here comes ultra noob question:

    If keyboard is TKL (such as CM Poker II) how do you scroll pages (PDFs or websites) when there is not arrow keys?

    I know this may sound dumb but I never even used TKL keyboard, and I don't know how can a person live without arrow keys ( numpad, that I can understand).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smasher816 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 11:28:50
    Quote from: spale on Sun, 04 January 2015, 11:09:41
    Here comes ultra noob question:

    If keyboard is TKL (such as CM Poker II) how do you scroll pages (PDFs or websites) when there is not arrow keys?

    I know this may sound dumb but I never even used TKL keyboard, and I don't know how can a person live without arrow keys ( numpad, that I can understand).

    You have your terminology wrong. TKL means no numberpad (tenkey), but still has the arrow keys and the navigation cluster above it. The term you are looking for is 60% which is just the main typing section.

    With that said these smaller boards usually add the missing keys on layers. So you hold a function key (like right menu) and press 1 it will turn into F1. For the poker II Fn+WASD acts as arrow keys, similar to walking in a game. Also, some people may browse PDFs and the internet with a mouse which obviously does not change.

    With some practice the combinations can become second nature. Some even find layouts like the HHKB better than a TKL as the arrow keys are closer to the home row stopping you from having to move your hand all the way across the board.

    Obviously this all depends on the person. Some people constantly use arrow keys and don't like layers so a TKL is better than a 60%. But for some others who don't use the arrow keys much the use of a layer is worth the size (extra portability and more desk space). Hope that helps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spale on Sun, 04 January 2015, 11:53:13
    Aha so that how it works :)
    Yup I see now, 60% is not my cup of tea, those combination of keys, kinda scare me. But at least I know full story now. Thx :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 January 2015, 07:48:00
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Sat, 03 January 2015, 23:44:25
    Is it possible to program Gons Nerd controller with spaceFN or ctrl+esc style dual keys?

    I think so. I don't see why you couldn't.

    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Mon, 29 December 2014, 19:04:38
    I've had a week or so using my first real keyboard (a Ducky Zero with red MX switches and ABS keycaps) and have two issues with it.

    First, it's noisy.  I went with non clicky switches in the hope it wouldn't be, but it's still much louder than my old Cherry membrane keyboard.  From what I've read this is probably because I'm bottoming out the switches - would O rings help?  Or perhaps getting some thicker (PBT?) keycaps would dampen the sound?

    Second, it's very sensitive so I keep clipping the corner of the key next to the one I want resulting in unwanted keypresses.  I think this is because the switches are too light for me but is there anything I can do about it?  It's plate mount so a spring transplant is not an option.

    Seems likely both problems would be solved if I learned to type better but I still have to use a cheap keyboard at work so that's going to be hard, instead I'm going to take the easy option and throw money at the problem in the hope it goes away!  (If this board can't be made suitable I'll buy another one...)

    1) Thicker keycaps, drawer liner between the PCB and case bottom, and sitting your keyboard on a mousepad or something similar will help.
    2) Typing technique will help a lot if you don't want to do the spring swap. You *can* do the swap, you just need to desolder the switches and pull them off the board. Is there a reason you think it can't be done?

    Quote from: Bakgrund on Wed, 31 December 2014, 16:57:39
    Not really keyboard related but how do you make these small keyboard pics that everybody has in their signatures? like here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67195.msg1577835#msg1577835

    I think people use Paint.

    Quote from: MGH on Fri, 26 December 2014, 04:35:06
    Is GON the only place to buy universal 60% plates?

    http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html

    Think Mkawa might still have some. I know AKMalamute and ApocalypseMeow have access to laser cutters and have run plate buys in the past. You could try PMing them.

    Quote from: Lain1911 on Wed, 24 December 2014, 20:34:54
    I'm looking into getting a raspberry pi specifically for retropie for old school games. I have found some tutorials but I was wondering if anyone had any personal experience setting this up and how well it would work with composite cables. Thanks!

    Not keyboard related. Please try asking in a more relevant thread or making a topic in "Other Geeky Stuff".


    Those are all the questions I saw that weren't answered. If I missed something while I was out, please let me know and I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities. Really happy this thread has continued to be popular :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Mon, 05 January 2015, 11:49:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 January 2015, 07:48:00
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Sat, 03 January 2015, 23:44:25
    Is it possible to program Gons Nerd controller with spaceFN or ctrl+esc style dual keys?

    I think so. I don't see why you couldn't.

    I'm come to the conclusion that you can't. I haven't seen anyone else ever do it. It looks like TMK firmware is the only one that supports this. So the gh60 and infinity are the only pcb I could find that support dual role modifiers and spaceFN.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 January 2015, 11:52:48
    Quote from: SeeThruHead on Mon, 05 January 2015, 11:49:07
    I'm come to the conclusion that you can't. I haven't seen anyone else ever do it. It looks like TMK firmware is the only one that supports this. So the gh60 and infinity are the only pcb I could find that support dual role modifiers and spaceFN.

    Just because it's never been done and documented here doesn't mean it can't be done. Have you tried it personally? Have you PMed GON to ask him? Perhaps talked to SpiceBar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SeeThruHead on Mon, 05 January 2015, 12:00:42
    I have asked in gons question and answer thread. Spicebar doesn't list gons controller as being compatible anywhere in his threads (afaik) but I will pm him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 05 January 2015, 13:45:46
    I can't find the picture of a special spacebar that supported standard and Leopold stem positions.

    It's hard to describe - it had like 2in1 stems :D

    I am sure I saw it in one of Ivan's GB / IC threads, but I can't find it anymore. Does anyone know what I am talking about?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:14:38
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Mon, 05 January 2015, 13:45:46
    I can't find the picture of a special spacebar that supported standard and Leopold stem positions.

    It's hard to describe - it had like 2in1 stems :D

    I am sure I saw it in one of Ivan's GB / IC threads, but I can't find it anymore. Does anyone know what I am talking about?

    This guy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1574191#msg1574191)?

    (http://42.120.41.196/data/attachment/forum/201201/20/004545jpbw80vggbnfyc2t.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:40:38
    Exactly this one.

    Thanks Hoff  :thumb:

    I was checking the R4 thread  forward and backwards and forgot that there was a R3 as well :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:47:57
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:40:38
    Exactly this one.

    Thanks Hoff  :thumb:

    I was checking the R4 thread  forward and backwards and forgot that there was a R3 as well :p

    No problem!  :)

    I knew Ivan posted it, so I just scanned back in his recent posts to find it.  Of course, that was after I went through a few threads first...   :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 06 January 2015, 02:55:11
    Quote from: FAQ
     
    •   Where can I buy stabilizers/stabilizer wire? Up to FAQ
    For Costar stabilizers, you can go to WASDKeyboards. For Cherry PCB/plate mount, you can go to Mouser or OnlineComponents.com. Note that you can only find the following part numbers at Mouser: G99-0744 which are PCB mount switches with an 8X wire and G99-0224 which are plate mounted with a 2X wire. You can mix and match your order to get the 2X wire and PCB mount if you need. I've never seen  a 6x or 6.25x wire. You'll have to bend your own. Litster's video may be helpful. The wire diameter for Costar is 3/64" music wire found at hobby shops and he uses a Du-Bro EZ Bender tool. And I believe the Cherry wire diameter is 1/16". Alternatively, you can buy some from GON.

    There's still no new options for it ?
    Looking for 7u/6.25u and several 2u Plate mount cherry stabs in Europe . My best options is to get the plastics from mouser and then bend wires ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 January 2015, 07:46:47
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 06 January 2015, 02:55:11
    Quote
    Where can I buy stabilizers/stabilizer wire?

    There's still no new options for it ?
    Looking for 7u/6.25u and several 2u Plate mount cherry stabs in Europe . My best options is to get the plastics from mouser and then bend wires ?

    As far as I know, there are no new options. I think GON and Imsto carry them but the prices are pretty steep for shipping. And I've heard that Mouser has had issues with stocking the stabilizers.

    Oh and before I forget, Ivan ran a GB for them so there may be extras popping up in the classifieds soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Wed, 07 January 2015, 00:27:58
    Does blank pom 1800 caps exist?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 January 2015, 07:02:49
    Quote from: Karura on Wed, 07 January 2015, 00:27:58
    Does blank pom 1800 caps exist?

    I'm not sure about blank POM. I bet there's lasered POM though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elocutive on Wed, 07 January 2015, 15:03:30
    Does LZ have a tenkey pad offering like duck and KMAC?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 January 2015, 15:36:19
    Quote from: Elocutive on Wed, 07 January 2015, 15:03:30
    Does LZ have a tenkey pad offering like duck and KMAC?

    Supposedly they were a couple made but not in the same numbers as say the LZ-GH. Might have been for LZ's own amusement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Wed, 07 January 2015, 16:23:45
    A few Qs about the Ducky Mini that I don't really want to start a new thread for...

    What are the size of the modifiers/bottom row? I want to put m,y Cherry Replica set on one. Also, how easy is it to change coloured LEDs to white ones, if there is a difference.

    I essentially want a YOTH board but with white LEDs with different switches on and a different keyset... lmao...

    for reference - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=KB-151-DK
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:23:15
    A friend told me he had an old mech to give me. Well, it was a Das II... not bad. Really nice keycaps. But not fully Filco compatible.

    Did Cherry ever make:

    - Fulltouch blank black POM caps lock
    - 6.25x black POM spacebar with normal stem spacing
    - 1.75 blank black POM right shift?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:24:21
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:23:15
    Did Cherry ever make:

    - Fulltouch blank black POM caps lock
    - 6.25x black POM spacebar with normal stem spacing
    - 1.75 blank black POM right shift?

    I wasn't aware Cherry made blank POM caps at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:25:04
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:23:15
    A friend told me he had an old mech to give me. Well, it was a Das II... not bad. Really nice keycaps. But not fully Filco compatible.

    Did Cherry ever make:

    - Fulltouch blank black POM caps lock
    - 6.25x black POM spacebar with normal stem spacing
    - 1.75 blank black POM right shift?

    I'm gonna guess probably not BUT if you decide to sell I think photekq is looking for one of those boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:29:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:24:21
    I wasn't aware Cherry made blank POM caps at all.

    Yeah, for Das II and generic G80-3000LPCXY-2: http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/blank-superior-gold-contact-linear-action-104-key-keyboard-black.asp

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:25:04
    I'm gonna guess probably not BUT if you decide to sell I think photekq is looking for one of those boards.

    Yeah, he is... I'm going to hang onto it for now, but he will be first in line if I decide to sell it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:32:49
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:29:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:24:21
    I wasn't aware Cherry made blank POM caps at all.

    Yeah, for Das II and generic G80-3000LPCXY-2: http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/blank-superior-gold-contact-linear-action-104-key-keyboard-black.asp

    Cool, TIL. I wonder if this little list of boards (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Otaku#List_of_Otaku_keyboards) helps you at all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:52:28
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:29:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:24:21
    I wasn't aware Cherry made blank POM caps at all.

    Yeah, for Das II and generic G80-3000LPCXY-2: http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/blank-superior-gold-contact-linear-action-104-key-keyboard-black.asp

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:25:04
    I'm gonna guess probably not BUT if you decide to sell I think photekq is looking for one of those boards.

    Yeah, he is... I'm going to hang onto it for now, but he will be first in line if I decide to sell it.

    I just remembered dante tried this  GB once

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49081.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 14:03:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:32:49
    Cool, TIL. I wonder if this little list of boards (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Otaku#List_of_Otaku_keyboards) helps you at all?

    Thanks for the list... sadly, seems to confirm there are no such caps from Cherry (assuming it is a complete list of Cherry otaku boards)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 14:06:22
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 14:03:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 13:32:49
    Cool, TIL. I wonder if this little list of boards (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Otaku#List_of_Otaku_keyboards) helps you at all?

    Thanks for the list... sadly, seems to confirm there are no such caps from Cherry (assuming it is a complete list of Cherry otaku boards)

    I doubt that list is complete. I just found it real quick and hoped it might be helpful :(. Obviously I don't know much about the topic so hopefully one of our Cherryheads pops in :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Thu, 08 January 2015, 14:51:56
    Quote from: katushkin on Wed, 07 January 2015, 16:23:45
    A few Qs about the Ducky Mini that I don't really want to start a new thread for...

    What are the size of the modifiers/bottom row? I want to put m,y Cherry Replica set on one. Also, how easy is it to change coloured LEDs to white ones, if there is a difference.

    I essentially want a YOTH board but with white LEDs with different switches on and a different keyset... lmao...

    for reference - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=KB-151-DK

    To me it looks like the mini is all 1.25x mods and a 6x spacebar :( not good news if I want to put the cherry replica set on...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:08:06
    Quote from: katushkin on Thu, 08 January 2015, 14:51:56
    Quote from: katushkin on Wed, 07 January 2015, 16:23:45
    A few Qs about the Ducky Mini that I don't really want to start a new thread for...

    What are the size of the modifiers/bottom row? I want to put m,y Cherry Replica set on one. Also, how easy is it to change coloured LEDs to white ones, if there is a difference.

    I essentially want a YOTH board but with white LEDs with different switches on and a different keyset... lmao...

    for reference - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=KB-151-DK

    To me it looks like the mini is all 1.25x mods and a 6x spacebar :( not good news if I want to put the cherry replica set on...

    It looks fine to me. What makes you believe it's a 6x spacebar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:27:31
    Ditto... all 1.25x mods with 6x spacebar wouldn't even work unless they had nonstandard right shift, enter, |\, backspace, etc. 99% sure it's standard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:57:33
    It sure looks like a 6x spacebar =/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:04:02
    Quote from: katushkin on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:57:33
    It sure looks like a 6x spacebar =/

    It looks fine to me. But for curiousity's sake, I messaged Ducky on Facebook. I'll let you know what their response is. Alternatively, you could ping 00ZerO or JoshMK and have them check one of their boards in their shop.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:08:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:04:02
    Quote from: katushkin on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:57:33
    It sure looks like a 6x spacebar =/

    It looks fine to me. But for curiousity's sake, I messaged Ducky on Facebook. I'll let you know what their response is. Alternatively, you could ping 00ZerO or JoshMK and have them check one of their boards in their shop.

    It's a 6.25u spacebar. It's hard to tell from that image, but the spacebar starts halfway under the 'X' key, and ends 3/4 into the <, key. So standard ANSI layout.

    I have a very strong hunch that the ANSI Ducky Mini is actually just a rebranded Vortex (Poker II), the same as was the case with the ISO Ducky Mini.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 09 January 2015, 01:57:14
    Corsair K70 RGB.
    Does it use standard ANSI stabilizer/spacebar sizes?
    Is it compatible with the phantom plates?
    Is it compatible with aluminium tenkeyless cases like the filco/vortex?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 09 January 2015, 02:27:33
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 09 January 2015, 01:57:14
    Corsair K70 RGB.
    Does it use standard ANSI stabilizer/spacebar sizes?
    Is it compatible with the phantom plates?
    Is it compatible with aluminium tenkeyless cases like the filco/vortex?

    K70 does NOT use standard bottom row.
    It uses 1.5 x 1 x 1.25 x 6.5 x 1.25 x 1 x 1 x 1.5

    I'm not sure how to answer the rest, the bottom row caps wouldn't be compatible with a phantom plate since phantom is standard but everything besides the space bar stabs could be harvested used on a phantom plate, you'd just have source a 6.25u spacebar stab wire.
    The entire piece is installed on an aluminum plate which also makes up the case so it's not compatible with anything really.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Fri, 09 January 2015, 07:32:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:08:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:04:02
    Quote from: katushkin on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:57:33
    It sure looks like a 6x spacebar =/

    It looks fine to me. But for curiousity's sake, I messaged Ducky on Facebook. I'll let you know what their response is. Alternatively, you could ping 00ZerO or JoshMK and have them check one of their boards in their shop.

    It's a 6.25u spacebar. It's hard to tell from that image, but the spacebar starts halfway under the 'X' key, and ends 3/4 into the <, key. So standard ANSI layout.

    I have a very strong hunch that the ANSI Ducky Mini is actually just a rebranded Vortex (Poker II), the same as was the case with the ISO Ducky Mini.

    OK, yeah looking at my Cherry set, it looks standard. I'm going to order one anyway, see how it goes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:08:00
    Quote from: katushkin on Fri, 09 January 2015, 07:32:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:08:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:04:02
    Quote from: katushkin on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:57:33
    It sure looks like a 6x spacebar =/

    It looks fine to me. But for curiousity's sake, I messaged Ducky on Facebook. I'll let you know what their response is. Alternatively, you could ping 00ZerO or JoshMK and have them check one of their boards in their shop.

    It's a 6.25u spacebar. It's hard to tell from that image, but the spacebar starts halfway under the 'X' key, and ends 3/4 into the <, key. So standard ANSI layout.

    I have a very strong hunch that the ANSI Ducky Mini is actually just a rebranded Vortex (Poker II), the same as was the case with the ISO Ducky Mini.

    OK, yeah looking at my Cherry set, it looks standard. I'm going to order one anyway, see how it goes.

    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/09/11dd318629060bec89f6dca7d3d41e66.jpg)

    Ducky replied to my message on Facebook. As intelli78, jdcarpe, and I suspected, it's 6.25x.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:19:13
    Ive started looking into building my own keyboard but I was confused with which switch type to get between PCB mount and plate mount. Im thinking of getting my parts from GONs and his mx clear switches are PCB mount while Im planning on using a plate.
    Can I use a plate using PCB mount switches?
    Can I use a plate with PCB mount stabilizers?
    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:27:05
    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:19:13
    Ive started looking into building my own keyboard but I was confused with which switch type to get between PCB mount and plate mount. Im thinking of getting my parts from GONs and his mx clear switches are PCB mount while Im planning on using a plate.
    Can I use a plate using PCB mount switches?
    Can I use a plate with PCB mount stabilizers?
    Thanks in advance!

    It all depends on the PCB if it has the holes for the PCB pins on the switches and if it has the proper holes for the PCB mount stabilizers, the plate would also have to have a proper cut out for the PCB mount stabilizers to fit through.

    FYI you can take PCB mount switches and cut the little legs off to make them plate mount but can't go the other way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:29:43
    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:19:13
    Im thinking of getting my parts from GONs and his mx clear switches are PCB mount while Im planning on using a plate.

    ^^  I will answer this specifically for GON's hardware.  The answers vary based on plate and PCB design, but my answer below are specifically for GON's plates and PCBs.

    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:19:13
    Can I use a plate using PCB mount switches?

    Yes.  PCB mount switches interact with the plate exactly the same as plate mount switches do.  Where they differ is how they interact with the PCB.  PCB mount switches have two tabs on the bottom that fit into the plate to secure it in place (hence why you wouldn't need a plate in that case).  Adding a plate will only increase stability, there will be no compatibility issues (some people prefer the feeling of no plate though, but that's preference).  GON's PCBs do support PCB mount switches, so you will have no issues there.

    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:19:13
    Can I use a plate with PCB mount stabilizers?

    This depends entirely on the design of the plate you're using.  GON designs all his plates to use PCB mount stabilizers (I believe this is a common occurrence in Korean keyboards), so you actually have to use PCB mount stabilizers.  There are no mounting points on the plates for plate mount stabilizers.


    Hope this helps.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:34:04
    Was there every one piece buckling springs caps with homing nubs that will match the stock caps on my F XT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:50:49
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:27:05
    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:19:13
    Ive started looking into building my own keyboard but I was confused with which switch type to get between PCB mount and plate mount. Im thinking of getting my parts from GONs and his mx clear switches are PCB mount while Im planning on using a plate.
    Can I use a plate using PCB mount switches?
    Can I use a plate with PCB mount stabilizers?
    Thanks in advance!

    It all depends on the PCB if it has the holes for the PCB pins on the switches and if it has the proper holes for the PCB mount stabilizers, the plate would also have to have a proper cut out for the PCB mount stabilizers to fit through.

    FYI you can take PCB mount switches and cut the little legs off to make them plate mount but can't go the other way.

    Thanks. I never knew the only difference were the legs of the switches, Ill keep that in mind if I get a PCB that doesnt come with mount holes.

    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:29:43
    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:19:13
    Im thinking of getting my parts from GONs and his mx clear switches are PCB mount while Im planning on using a plate.

    ^^  I will answer this specifically for GON's hardware.  The answers vary based on plate and PCB design, but my answer below are specifically for GON's plates and PCBs.

    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:19:13
    Can I use a plate using PCB mount switches?

    Yes.  PCB mount switches interact with the plate exactly the same as plate mount switches do.  Where they differ is how they interact with the PCB.  PCB mount switches have two tabs on the bottom that fit into the plate to secure it in place (hence why you wouldn't need a plate in that case).  Adding a plate will only increase stability, there will be no compatibility issues (some people prefer the feeling of no plate though, but that's preference).  GON's PCBs do support PCB mount switches, so you will have no issues there.

    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:19:13
    Can I use a plate with PCB mount stabilizers?

    This depends entirely on the design of the plate you're using.  GON designs all his plates to use PCB mount stabilizers (I believe this is a common occurrence in Korean keyboards), so you actually have to use PCB mount stabilizers.  There are no mounting points on the plates for plate mount stabilizers.


    Hope this helps.   :thumb:

    That helped a TON. Specifically, I was looking into GONs PCB and plate since the general consensus on GH seems to be that his PCB is superior. (Looking into taobao for cases.)
    PCB mount switches interacts with GONs plate. GONs PCB support PCB mount switches. GONs plate is for PCB mount stabilizers. PERFECT.
    Thanks a lot, I appreciate your time <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 January 2015, 11:01:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:08:00
    Quote from: katushkin on Fri, 09 January 2015, 07:32:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:08:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:04:02
    Quote from: katushkin on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:57:33
    It sure looks like a 6x spacebar =/

    It looks fine to me. But for curiousity's sake, I messaged Ducky on Facebook. I'll let you know what their response is. Alternatively, you could ping 00ZerO or JoshMK and have them check one of their boards in their shop.

    It's a 6.25u spacebar. It's hard to tell from that image, but the spacebar starts halfway under the 'X' key, and ends 3/4 into the <, key. So standard ANSI layout.

    I have a very strong hunch that the ANSI Ducky Mini is actually just a rebranded Vortex (Poker II), the same as was the case with the ISO Ducky Mini.

    OK, yeah looking at my Cherry set, it looks standard. I'm going to order one anyway, see how it goes.

    Show Image
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/09/11dd318629060bec89f6dca7d3d41e66.jpg)


    Ducky replied to my message on Facebook. As intelli78, jdcarpe, and I suspected, it's 6.25x.


    Ask them if it's a rebranded Vortex! :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 09 January 2015, 11:03:23
    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:50:49
    That helped a TON. Specifically, I was looking into GONs PCB and plate since the general consensus on GH seems to be that his PCB is superior. (Looking into taobao for cases.)
    PCB mount switches interacts with GONs plate. GONs PCB support PCB mount switches. GONs plate is for PCB mount stabilizers. PERFECT.
    Thanks a lot, I appreciate your time <3

    I don't have much experience with building his boards separate from the cases he offers (PCB + plate + third party case), but just make sure that you're not purchasing a full case (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/105-gon-ns-nerd-60-housing-only.html) and are indeed purchasing a plate (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html).  I only mention this because his cases can look a lot like plates in some instances to unfamiliar eyes, but obviously cannot fit into another housing.

    And GON's NerD PCB is really great.   :thumb:   I've got two of them I still need to build up.  :))

    And no problem!  That's what this thread is for, after all.  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 11:34:11
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 09 January 2015, 11:03:23
    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:50:49
    That helped a TON. Specifically, I was looking into GONs PCB and plate since the general consensus on GH seems to be that his PCB is superior. (Looking into taobao for cases.)
    PCB mount switches interacts with GONs plate. GONs PCB support PCB mount switches. GONs plate is for PCB mount stabilizers. PERFECT.
    Thanks a lot, I appreciate your time <3

    I don't have much experience with building his boards separate from the cases he offers (PCB + plate + third party case), but just make sure that you're not purchasing a full case (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/105-gon-ns-nerd-60-housing-only.html) and are indeed purchasing a plate (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html).  I only mention this because his cases can look a lot like plates in some instances to unfamiliar eyes, but obviously cannot fit into another housing.

    And GON's NerD PCB is really great.   :thumb:   I've got two of them I still need to build up.  :))

    And no problem!  That's what this thread is for, after all.  ;)

    Any and all pointers are good for me, as it is my first attempt to build a board (or solder...). As of now, Im looking into GONs Nerd 60 (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/113-nerd-60-ver20-pcb.html) + his plate (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html) along with this taobao case (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.6.nbv6TC&id=40829754937&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail).

    Are the 3 compatible? Im also considering the wireless option IF it fits, any idea if it does fit in the taobao case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Fri, 09 January 2015, 12:31:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:08:00
    Quote from: katushkin on Fri, 09 January 2015, 07:32:33
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:08:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:04:02
    Quote from: katushkin on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:57:33
    It sure looks like a 6x spacebar =/

    It looks fine to me. But for curiousity's sake, I messaged Ducky on Facebook. I'll let you know what their response is. Alternatively, you could ping 00ZerO or JoshMK and have them check one of their boards in their shop.

    It's a 6.25u spacebar. It's hard to tell from that image, but the spacebar starts halfway under the 'X' key, and ends 3/4 into the <, key. So standard ANSI layout.

    I have a very strong hunch that the ANSI Ducky Mini is actually just a rebranded Vortex (Poker II), the same as was the case with the ISO Ducky Mini.

    OK, yeah looking at my Cherry set, it looks standard. I'm going to order one anyway, see how it goes.

    Show Image
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/09/11dd318629060bec89f6dca7d3d41e66.jpg)


    Ducky replied to my message on Facebook. As intelli78, jdcarpe, and I suspected, it's 6.25x.

    Oh Captain, my captain. <3 thank you so much
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 09 January 2015, 19:32:30

    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 11:34:11
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 09 January 2015, 11:03:23
    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:50:49
    That helped a TON. Specifically, I was looking into GONs PCB and plate since the general consensus on GH seems to be that his PCB is superior. (Looking into taobao for cases.)
    PCB mount switches interacts with GONs plate. GONs PCB support PCB mount switches. GONs plate is for PCB mount stabilizers. PERFECT.
    Thanks a lot, I appreciate your time <3

    I don't have much experience with building his boards separate from the cases he offers (PCB + plate + third party case), but just make sure that you're not purchasing a full case (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/105-gon-ns-nerd-60-housing-only.html) and are indeed purchasing a plate (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html).  I only mention this because his cases can look a lot like plates in some instances to unfamiliar eyes, but obviously cannot fit into another housing.

    And GON's NerD PCB is really great.   :thumb:   I've got two of them I still need to build up.  :))

    And no problem!  That's what this thread is for, after all.  ;)

    Any and all pointers are good for me, as it is my first attempt to build a board (or solder...). As of now, Im looking into GONs Nerd 60 (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/113-nerd-60-ver20-pcb.html) + his plate (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html) along with this taobao case (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.6.nbv6TC&id=40829754937&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail).

    Are the 3 compatible? Im also considering the wireless option IF it fits, any idea if it does fit in the taobao case?
    Should all fit but the wireless might be blocked. If you want to do wireless might want to get the case from GON to guarantee compatibility and signal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 January 2015, 10:06:03
    Has anyone done a detachable cable mod on a Realforce 23U number pad?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 10:06:50
    What keyboard would this: http://puu.sh/ekxiL/c7b76b2c12.jpg be?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Sat, 10 January 2015, 10:43:40
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 10:06:50
    What keyboard would this: http://puu.sh/ekxiL/c7b76b2c12.jpg be?

    I'm not good with my BS boards but i think this is a IBM Model F 122 key
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 11:35:47
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 10:06:50
    What keyboard would this: http://puu.sh/ekxiL/c7b76b2c12.jpg be?
    I think those are rubberdome kind
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bowji on Sat, 10 January 2015, 11:39:49
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Fri, 09 January 2015, 19:32:30
    Quote from: bowji on Fri, 09 January 2015, 11:34:11
    Any and all pointers are good for me, as it is my first attempt to build a board (or solder...). As of now, Im looking into GONs Nerd 60 (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/113-nerd-60-ver20-pcb.html) + his plate (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html) along with this taobao case (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.6.nbv6TC&id=40829754937&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail).

    Are the 3 compatible? Im also considering the wireless option IF it fits, any idea if it does fit in the taobao case?
    Should all fit but the wireless might be blocked. If you want to do wireless might want to get the case from GON to guarantee compatibility and signal.

    I guess the wireless option is out for me since I opted for a "budget" case, and the taobao one seemed to be the best bet. I will be looking into the wired option and other options for more possible choices before I make any purchases. After all I do need to find a way to practice soldering on something...
    Thanks a lot! I appreciate the response  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 10 January 2015, 11:40:05
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 11:35:47
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 10:06:50
    What keyboard would this: http://puu.sh/ekxiL/c7b76b2c12.jpg be?
    I think those are rubberdome kind
    Yes, it's definitely a rubberdome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sat, 10 January 2015, 12:03:41
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 January 2015, 10:06:03
    Has anyone done a detachable cable mod on a Realforce 23U number pad?
    If the numpad cable isn't different from the keyboard cable :
    http://pexonpcs.co.uk/products/realforce-cables
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:25:34
    Phantom PCB and winkey plate will support off-center-stemmed 6.25 Cherry-style spacebar, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:33:16
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:25:34
    Phantom PCB and winkey plate will support off-center-stemmed 6.25 Cherry-style spacebar, right?
    Looks like it will support it, yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 14:35:02
    Yea, PCB does, I guess my question should have been if anyone has ever made a plate with that cutout?

    Edit: and own question is answered, yes
    (http://i.imgur.com/6Nd58cG.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:30:38
    Is this https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_grn_alt the same green color as https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54442.0 ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:32:38
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:30:38
    Is this https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_grn_alt the same green color as https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54442.0 ?
    No, the GB ones are a slight darker green, while the EK ones are lime green
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:34:42
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:32:38
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:30:38
    Is this https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_grn_alt the same green color as https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54442.0 ?
    No, the GB ones are a slight darker green, while the EK ones are lime green

    Damn, guess I'll wait for originative's store to open again for his rgb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:35:55
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:34:42
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:32:38
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 10 January 2015, 15:30:38
    Is this https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_grn_alt the same green color as https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54442.0 ?
    No, the GB ones are a slight darker green, while the EK ones are lime green

    Damn, guess I'll wait for originative's store to open again for his rgb
    originative is known for being less than reputable. Your best bet is to find it elsewhere
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RoflCopter4 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 03:38:48
    I'm sure this is asked relatively often but I can't seem to find the answer, so I'll just ask it here:

    How many missing plastic rivets is too many missing plastic rivets for a Model M? I would have sworn that my '86 silver logo one was at most very rarely used over the years given the condition it's in, but I finally got the right nut driver in the mail today (6 weeks for shipping?? Amazon sucks in Canada) and opened the thing up. Only one rivet is totally cleaved off but at least one other is basically hanging by a thread and a few others are looking a bit on the weather. It still works just fine, but I can't help but worry about whether I sould be doing something about this sooner rather than later.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 12 January 2015, 07:44:56
    Quote from: RoflCopter4 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 03:38:48
    I'm sure this is asked relatively often but I can't seem to find the answer, so I'll just ask it here:

    How many missing plastic rivets is too many missing plastic rivets for a Model M? I would have sworn that my '86 silver logo one was at most very rarely used over the years given the condition it's in, but I finally got the right nut driver in the mail today (6 weeks for shipping?? Amazon sucks in Canada) and opened the thing up. Only one rivet is totally cleaved off but at least one other is basically hanging by a thread and a few others are looking a bit on the weather. It still works just fine, but I can't help but worry about whether I sould be doing something about this sooner rather than later.

    A single broken rivet in isolation will not make much difference. A cluster of them in an area will make a soft spot.

    My most recent Model M had a number of rivets that looked attached but popped off instantly when I touched them. Run your fingernail under them to see whether they are actually solid in place.

    Sometimes they just let go due to age or fatigue, and sometimes a sharp impact will break a number of them loose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 11:53:59
    Anyone know where this aluminum case comes from?

    (http://i.imgur.com/dHGEm.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 January 2015, 11:57:28
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 11:53:59
    Anyone know where this aluminum case comes from?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/dHGEm.jpg)


    Leopold in Korea. That's a TypeNow Solid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 12:01:54
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 January 2015, 11:57:28
    Leopold in Korea. That's a TypeNow Solid.

    Nice, Thank you :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 January 2015, 12:03:01
    Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 12:01:54
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 12 January 2015, 11:57:28
    Leopold in Korea. That's a TypeNow Solid.

    Nice, Thank you :thumb:


    If that pic is one from DanGWanG, I currently own that keyboard.

    (http://i.imgur.com/fwWol.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 12 January 2015, 12:11:46
    That's dope. It's a nice case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 13 January 2015, 07:57:27
    How much did Dolch cost from Originative [not the lower GB price]? I would check on their site, but it's pw protected.

    1. Full set of 104 caps + tsangan keys
    2. The 'extra' kit
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 January 2015, 07:59:37
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 13 January 2015, 07:57:27
    How much did Dolch cost from Originative [not the lower GB price]? I would check on their site, but it's pw protected.

    1. Full set of 104 caps + tsangan keys
    2. The 'extra' kit

    1. base set $85 + numpad $17 + tsangan $25 = $127

    2. I forget
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:03:00
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 13 January 2015, 07:57:27
    How much did Dolch cost from Originative [not the lower GB price]? I would check on their site, but it's pw protected.

    1. Full set of 104 caps + tsangan keys
    2. The 'extra' kit

    Can't find the exact breakdown you want but I did find these posts.

    Whatever the full and extension sets are, it looks like they went for around $200 shipped (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50497.msg1102819#msg1102819).

    The TKL set looks like it went for $95 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50497.msg1111728#msg1111728).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:04:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 13 January 2015, 07:57:27
    How much did Dolch cost from Originative [not the lower GB price]? I would check on their site, but it's pw protected.

    1. Full set of 104 caps + tsangan keys
    2. The 'extra' kit
    http://web.archive.org/web/20140626163723/http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/dolch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:06:17
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:04:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 13 January 2015, 07:57:27
    How much did Dolch cost from Originative [not the lower GB price]? I would check on their site, but it's pw protected.

    1. Full set of 104 caps + tsangan keys
    2. The 'extra' kit
    http://web.archive.org/web/20140626163723/http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/dolch

    Damn, I was close.

    Only $27 off.

    I didn't remember the 87 being so expensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:13:27
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:04:31
    Quote from: Photekq on Tue, 13 January 2015, 07:57:27
    How much did Dolch cost from Originative [not the lower GB price]? I would check on their site, but it's pw protected.

    1. Full set of 104 caps + tsangan keys
    2. The 'extra' kit
    http://web.archive.org/web/20140626163723/http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/dolch (http://web.archive.org/web/20140626163723/http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/dolch)

    Nice find. :thumb:

    For the lazy

    Quote from: originativedon'tbuyfromuswearetooscammypricebreakdown
    Base 87-key $105, Numberpad $25, Winkeyless Mods $25, Extension Kit $48, 1.75 Shift $4.50

    A classic style with dark and medium grey looking colors.  These keycaps were available on an old Cherry G80-1813 keyboard, and they are one of the many reasons why these boards have became so sought after.

        Dark and Light Grey with White Legends
        Original Cherry Corp double-shot molding, thick and durable
        Keycaps fit on most modern mechanical keyboard with Cherry MX switches
        Made in Germany

    Base kit

        Contains 87 keys to fit a US ANSI tenkeyless board.  (Ex: Filco tenkeyless, CM Storm QFR)
        BBCDEE Profile

    Numberpad

        The numberpad set will fit on most numberpads.
        This set DOES NOT HAVE 1x width '0' and '00' key, only a 2x width '0' key.

    Winkeyless

        The kit is made for traditional keyboards.  It will fit on 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1-1.5 keyboards.
        Includes a stepped caps lock

    Extension

        The kit includes many textless modifiers.
        Includes 3 ISO keys, 3 Window keys, and 1x bottom row (B Profile) keys for older keyboards such as the G80-1800.

    Note:  The winkeyless does not include 1x Win Winkey

    And in case anyone is interested the original Dolch originative group buy was $95 (this varied from ~$85-$95 depending on how early you joined up) for 104 plus winkeyless plus $37 for the extension plus shipping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 13 January 2015, 08:17:38
    Thanks guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Tue, 13 January 2015, 16:12:26
    Any way to remap my Model M without using programs that run in the background?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 January 2015, 16:15:35
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Tue, 13 January 2015, 16:12:26
    Any way to remap my Model M without using programs that run in the background?

    Use a soarer converter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Tue, 13 January 2015, 16:17:53
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 January 2015, 16:15:35
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Tue, 13 January 2015, 16:12:26
    Any way to remap my Model M without using programs that run in the background?

    Use a soarer converter?
    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RoflCopter4 on Tue, 13 January 2015, 22:04:04
    This is probably a dumb question but what product in particular do people use when they put "dental bands" on their Topre keyboards? There are a fair few products under that broad name.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 14 January 2015, 03:42:41
    my friend's had a Steelseries board with blacks for three years (two if going by extensive usage). if i harvest the switches from this board and lube them, approximately how close will they get to replicating the feel of vintage blacks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 January 2015, 04:39:18
    Quote from: RoflCopter4 on Tue, 13 January 2015, 22:04:04
    This is probably a dumb question but what product in particular do people use when they put "dental bands" on their Topre keyboards? There are a fair few products under that broad name.

    Don't think the brand matters. Think you just need orthodontic rubber bands in a certain diameter. The thread below has some nice info :

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0

    Quote from: whentheclouds on Wed, 14 January 2015, 03:42:41
    my friend's had a Steelseries board with blacks for three years (two if going by extensive usage). if i harvest the switches from this board and lube them, approximately how close will they get to replicating the feel of vintage blacks?

    It's really hard for me to guess unless I physically tried then myself. Honestly I've never had a batch of vintage blacks that felt differnt from normal blacks. From my experience, lubing the keys would help more than anything else. You're welcome to try the swap and let us know what you think.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:11:19
    Are rectangular 2x3x4mm led's still the go-to led size for switches?

    Which size SIP sockets do I get for rectangular 2x3x4mm led's and where to buy? Are they a pain in the ass to install? Am I better off just soldering the LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:27:53
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:11:19
    1. Are rectangular 2x3x4mm led's still the go-to led size for switches?
    2. Which size SIP sockets do I get for rectangular 2x3x4mm led's and where to buy?
    3. Are they a pain in the ass to install?
    4. Am I better off just soldering the LEDs?

    1. Rectangular 2x3x4mm LEDs are still the go-to size, since they fit into the switch cover better and are less likely to hit thicker keycaps.
    2. You'll want "standard" diameter holes in the SIP sockets (the part the LED leads will fit into).  I would use nuclearsandwich's recent GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64915.0) as a reference and get the SIP sockets he bought (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d) (or at least the same dimensions).  And FYI, the LED size won't impact what SIP sockets you need unless you have such a large LED that the leads are bigger.
    3. You will need to remove the switch top, insert them in, and solder them to the pads on the PCB.  The extra work over regular LED installation is opening the switch and inserting the sockets (they can be finicky).  This means that if you have a plate that doesn't allow switch opening, it will be a lot more work, because you will end up desoldering all the switches.  If you don't need to do that, the added difficulty is just opening the switches which is tedious but not too bad.
    4. Only you can answer that.  ;)  If you know you'll be swapping LEDs every couple months, SIP sockets can be worth it.  If you have no intentions to swap LEDs, it might not be.  It will also depend on whether you have an easy way to desolder the LEDs or not.  You'll have to decide this for yourself.

    Also, check out this thread on SIP sockets (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0) for more info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:29:35
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:27:53
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:11:19
    1. Are rectangular 2x3x4mm led's still the go-to led size for switches?
    2. Which size SIP sockets do I get for rectangular 2x3x4mm led's and where to buy?
    3. Are they a pain in the ass to install?
    4. Am I better off just soldering the LEDs?

    1. Rectangular 2x3x4mm LEDs are still the go-to size, since they fit into the switch cover better and are less likely to hit thicker keycaps.
    2. You'll want "standard" diameter holes in the SIP sockets (the part the LED leads will fit into).  I would use nuclearsandwich's recent GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64915.0) as a reference and get the SIP sockets he bought (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d) (or at least the same dimensions).  And FYI, the LED size won't impact what SIP sockets you need unless you have such a large LED that the leads are bigger.
    3. You will need to remove the switch top, insert them in, and solder them to the pads on the PCB.  The extra work over regular LED installation is opening the switch and inserting the sockets (they can be finicky).  This means that if you have a plate that doesn't allow switch opening, it will be a lot more work, because you will end up desoldering all the switches.  If you don't need to do that, the added difficulty is just opening the switches which is tedious but not too bad.
    4. Only you can answer that.  ;)  If you know you'll be swapping LEDs every couple months, SIP sockets can be worth it.  If you have no intentions to swap LEDs, it might not be.  It will also depend on whether you have an easy way to desolder the LEDs or not.  You'll have to decide this for yourself.

    Also, check out this thread on SIP sockets (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0) for more info.

    rock on Hoff! thanks brehbreh =)

    EDIT - Just to confirm, do these Mil-Max sip sockets have issues with not allowing the switch top to close all the way?http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:00:19
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:29:35
    Just to confirm, do these Mil-Max sip sockets have issues with not allowing the switch top to close all the way?http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d)

    I haven't used those exact SIP sockets, but in my experience you only have issues closing the switch top if you don't cut the black surrounding off of the socket.  You can see the black plastic holding them together in the thread I linked before.  If you snip that off with some cutters so you have loose metal sockets (no plastic), you shouldn't have any issues.   :thumb:   AFAIK, the differences between SIP sockets have to do with the length of the leads on the sockets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:01:31
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:11:19
    3. Are they a pain in the ass to install?
    4. Am I better off just soldering the LEDs?

    3. Yes
    4. Yes

    I won't even mess with SIP sockets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:06:47
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:01:31
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:11:19
    3. Are they a pain in the ass to install?
    4. Am I better off just soldering the LEDs?

    3. Yes
    4. Yes

    I won't even mess with SIP sockets.

     :))   

    For the record, I share JD's sentiments. 

    If you're already taking a switch apart to lube it, adding SIP sockets isn't that much more work, so I might do it.
    If you're already taking a switch apart to swap springs, adding SIP sockets isn't that much more work, so I might do it.
    If you're already taking a switch apart to sticker it, STOP.

     :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:09:57
    Do I need thick or extra thick lube for sliders on used MX clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 14 January 2015, 17:37:10
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:09:57
    Do I need thick or extra thick lube for sliders on used MX clears?

    +1    I have also been wondering which one to use for sliders.  I was thinking it would be the "thin" formula.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:30:18
    What weight is best for ergo clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:32:36
    Quote from: katushkin on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:30:18
    What weight is best for ergo clears?

    You should ask Bromono this question. ;)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67328.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:33:52
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 14 January 2015, 17:37:10
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:09:57
    Do I need thick or extra thick lube for sliders on used MX clears?

    +1    I have also been wondering which one to use for sliders.  I was thinking it would be the "thin" formula.
    I thought tactile switches did better with thick lube?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:36:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:33:52
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 14 January 2015, 17:37:10
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:09:57
    Do I need thick or extra thick lube for sliders on used MX clears?

    +1    I have also been wondering which one to use for sliders.  I was thinking it would be the "thin" formula.
    I thought tactile switches did better with thick lube?


    I wouldn't even know. I just mix my own, so I couldn't tell you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:53:53
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 14 January 2015, 17:37:10
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:09:57
    Do I need thick or extra thick lube for sliders on used MX clears?

    +1    I have also been wondering which one to use for sliders.  I was thinking it would be the "thin" formula.

    I think there's a thin, thick, and superthick mix? Thick should be good. I mix mine like JD and I just use it for everything.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:32:36
    Quote from: katushkin on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:30:18
    What weight is best for ergo clears?

    You should ask Bromono this question. ;)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67328.0

    TL:DR? Personal preference. If I were to swap the spring out, I'd go for MX Black springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:15:34
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:32:36
    Quote from: katushkin on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:30:18
    What weight is best for ergo clears?

    You should ask Bromono this question. ;)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67328.0

    Thanks :)

    Looks like 62g is the way to go. Duly noted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:18:03
    TL;DR version of this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67625.0), since it's getting no replies.

    If I put Novatouch sliders into an RF 86u and bend a custom stab wire (since Nova's is too short), will it take a 7x Cherry spacebar? That is, is the stem spacing the same on Topre 7x and Cherry 7x?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:23:12
    nobody's done it so nobody knows
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:30:03
    Thanks, I am aware, and that's not helpful.

    What I am hoping is that someone has a Topre 7x and a Cherry 7x and can post side-by-side stem pics to help determine if the stem spacing is possibly teh same. This will indicate whether there's a chance, or more likely, confirm there is no chance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:37:54
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:30:03
    Thanks, I am aware, and that's not helpful.

    What I am hoping is that someone has a Topre 7x and a Cherry 7x and can post side-by-side stem pics to help determine if the stem spacing is possibly teh same. This will indicate whether there's a chance, or more likely, confirm there is no chance.
    Hey Intelli, this might be a rather expensive option, but I know this topre model uses a 7x spacebar, and comes in cheap compared to other models (around $168 w/ current exchange rate) I remember Bro Caps sold one a long time ago to someone on here. Might be a good specimen to compare spacebars with.
    http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B000EQHU5I/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me= (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B000EQHU5I/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:43:18
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:18:03
    TL;DR version of this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67625.0), since it's getting no replies.

    If I put Novatouch sliders into an RF 86u and bend a custom stab wire (since Nova's is too short), will it take a 7x Cherry spacebar? That is, is the stem spacing the same on Topre 7x and Cherry 7x?

    Since I'm not familiar at all with the 86U (actually forgot about it until you posted this), do you or anyone else happen to know if it was more prevalent in another market?  If it was more common in Asia (I would assume), you might have luck posting on one of the forums over there.  I think the hardest part of this will be finding someone on GH who even has one.

    I know this doesn't answer the question, though.  :|
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:47:59
    Thanks, that's a very cool keyboard and I love the integrated winkey blockers. Unfortunately the cost of purchasing and importing it would probably equal the price of finding and purchasing an 86u, which is my preferred layout.

    Even if we can't get some info on the stem spacing, I might track one down anyway. I'd mostly use it with original Cherry dyesubs, and the white/beige Topre color is not too different from Cherry -- so it wouldn't be ferociously ugly if I left the Topre spacebar on the board.

    It's incredibly unlikely the spacing will be the same, and that everything will actually work right with Nova stab modules installed. But it's not impossible -- if Topre made a conscious decision to match Cherry spacing (if there is any standard, it would be that, so as unlikely as it is, it's at least possible) then it might work, which would be very cool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:48:28
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:43:18
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:18:03
    TL;DR version of this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67625.0), since it's getting no replies.

    If I put Novatouch sliders into an RF 86u and bend a custom stab wire (since Nova's is too short), will it take a 7x Cherry spacebar? That is, is the stem spacing the same on Topre 7x and Cherry 7x?

    Since I'm not familiar at all with the 86U (actually forgot about it until you posted this), do you or anyone else happen to know if it was more prevalent in another market?  If it was more common in Asia (I would assume), you might have luck posting on one of the forums over there.  I think the hardest part of this will be finding someone on GH who even has one.

    I know this doesn't answer the question, though.  :|
    After a few Google searches, I'm more lead to believe that Topre actually phased out the 86u after around 2011.  I can't really seem to find much information on them now, I'm assuming at this point they are mostly discontinued.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:49:51
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:43:18
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:18:03
    TL;DR version of this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67625.0), since it's getting no replies.

    If I put Novatouch sliders into an RF 86u and bend a custom stab wire (since Nova's is too short), will it take a 7x Cherry spacebar? That is, is the stem spacing the same on Topre 7x and Cherry 7x?

    Since I'm not familiar at all with the 86U (actually forgot about it until you posted this), do you or anyone else happen to know if it was more prevalent in another market?  If it was more common in Asia (I would assume), you might have luck posting on one of the forums over there.  I think the hardest part of this will be finding someone on GH who even has one.

    I know this doesn't answer the question, though.  :|

    Not sure about Asia, but EK sold them a few years ago before they were discontinued (Flyers is right about that). Someone is bound to have one, just have to get their attention.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:53:20
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:49:51
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:43:18
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:18:03
    TL;DR version of this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67625.0), since it's getting no replies.

    If I put Novatouch sliders into an RF 86u and bend a custom stab wire (since Nova's is too short), will it take a 7x Cherry spacebar? That is, is the stem spacing the same on Topre 7x and Cherry 7x?

    Since I'm not familiar at all with the 86U (actually forgot about it until you posted this), do you or anyone else happen to know if it was more prevalent in another market?  If it was more common in Asia (I would assume), you might have luck posting on one of the forums over there.  I think the hardest part of this will be finding someone on GH who even has one.

    I know this doesn't answer the question, though.  :|

    Not sure about Asia, but EK sold them a few years ago before they were discontinued (Flyers is right about that). Someone is bound to have one, just have to get their attention.
    Did a little detective work for you intelli, I'm not sure he still has it, but it might be worth asking!
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46058.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46058.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:55:30
    Nice...! I sent him a PM, guess I should try searching further back in the classifieds too. You never know...

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jrsall92 on Thu, 15 January 2015, 02:07:38
    for mx blues what's the best o rings to avoid bottoming the keys, and also having the least possible travel distance? I'm thinking of 2mm thickness, but I don't know if there will be enough space to actually actuate the switch (4mm[whole distance] - 2mm[oring] = 2mm[actuation point].
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 January 2015, 05:51:31
    Quote from: jrsall92 on Thu, 15 January 2015, 02:07:38
    for mx blues what's the best o rings to avoid bottoming the keys, and also having the least possible travel distance? I'm thinking of 2mm thickness, but I don't know if there will be enough space to actually actuate the switch (4mm[whole distance] - 2mm[oring] = 2mm[actuation point].

    These o-rings from Lpwl might be what you're looking for. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62935.0) Take a look and see if they work for you. Swill took a look at o-rings and came up with these thoughts (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53174.msg1186392#msg1186392). And perhaps one of these links (https://geekhack.org/index.php?reportsent;topic=53990.msg1208149#msg1208149) will help you as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:33:09
    is there a rgb cherryswitch  board out that uses standard ansi layout/mods?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:35:44
    Has there ever been a realforce numberpad with all 1x keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fr4nc3sc0NL on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:21:10
    I'm having an issue with my kbt race II and my hackintosh. I have to reconnect it everytime I restart it. Is there a firmwareupdate for this keyboard, and if so where can I find it? If not, will this be an issue with my macbook pro too?

    *update*
    I meant to say, "my macbook pro that i'm going to buy today". Will let you know what happens ofc :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:36:40
    Quote from: domoaligato on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:33:09
    is there a rgb cherryswitch  board out that uses standard ansi layout/mods?

    AFAIK, Corsair is the only company which has those RGB Cherry switches right now and I don't believe they have a standard layout.

    Quote from: Fr4nc3sc0NL on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:21:10
    I'm having an issue with my kbt race II and my hackintosh. I have to reconnect it everytime I restart it. Is there a firmwareupdate for this keyboard, and if so where can I find it? If not, will this be an issue with my macbook pro too?

    I can't find if there is a firmware update. You could try emailing the contact information here (http://rabbitwebfactory.com/pages/kbt_race_2_limited_edition).

    You could just try plugging it into the macbook pro and letting us know. I don't know off the top of my head and I'm curious to know hte answer.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:35:44
    Has there ever been a realforce numberpad with all 1x keys?

    AFAIK, no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 14:49:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:35:44
    Has there ever been a realforce numberpad with all 1x keys?

    Are you asking because the PCB has multiple contacts under the 2x keys that look like they could function as two 1x keys?  I saw that in the pic you posted the other day (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1590630#msg1590630) and was curious myself.  Hopefully someone can shed light on this.

    Along those same lines, I'm wondering if there was ever one made with a 2x 0 key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:01:18
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 14:49:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:35:44
    Has there ever been a realforce numberpad with all 1x keys?

    Are you asking because the PCB has multiple contacts under the 2x keys that look like they could function as two 1x keys?  I saw that in the pic you posted the other day (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1590630#msg1590630) and was curious myself.  Hopefully someone can shed light on this.

    Along those same lines, I'm wondering if there was ever one made with a 2x 0 key?

    Yes that was why I was asking. I don't think I'd ever seen a 23U PCB before today. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:37:22
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:01:18
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 14:49:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:35:44
    Has there ever been a realforce numberpad with all 1x keys?

    Are you asking because the PCB has multiple contacts under the 2x keys that look like they could function as two 1x keys?  I saw that in the pic you posted the other day (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1590630#msg1590630) and was curious myself.  Hopefully someone can shed light on this.

    Along those same lines, I'm wondering if there was ever one made with a 2x 0 key?

    Yes that was why I was asking. I don't think I'd ever seen a 23U PCB before today. :D

    Swap it around for a 2-unit plus and 2 1-unit keys below, and tell us what happens.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:45:17
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:37:22
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:01:18
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 14:49:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:35:44
    Has there ever been a realforce numberpad with all 1x keys?

    Are you asking because the PCB has multiple contacts under the 2x keys that look like they could function as two 1x keys?  I saw that in the pic you posted the other day (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1590630#msg1590630) and was curious myself.  Hopefully someone can shed light on this.

    Along those same lines, I'm wondering if there was ever one made with a 2x 0 key?

    Yes that was why I was asking. I don't think I'd ever seen a 23U PCB before today. :D

    Swap it around for a 2-unit plus and 2 1-unit keys below, and tell us what happens.

    Are there slider positions for those key sizes?  Might be a dumb question, but I don't have my 23UB with me.   :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:06:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:37:22
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:01:18
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 14:49:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:35:44
    Has there ever been a realforce numberpad with all 1x keys?

    Are you asking because the PCB has multiple contacts under the 2x keys that look like they could function as two 1x keys?  I saw that in the pic you posted the other day (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1590630#msg1590630) and was curious myself.  Hopefully someone can shed light on this.

    Along those same lines, I'm wondering if there was ever one made with a 2x 0 key?

    Yes that was why I was asking. I don't think I'd ever seen a 23U PCB before today. :D

    Swap it around for a 2-unit plus and 2 1-unit keys below, and tell us what happens.

    Yeah if only the plate supported that. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:10:11

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:06:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:37:22
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:01:18
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 14:49:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:35:44
    Has there ever been a realforce numberpad with all 1x keys?

    Are you asking because the PCB has multiple contacts under the 2x keys that look like they could function as two 1x keys?  I saw that in the pic you posted the other day (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1590630#msg1590630) and was curious myself.  Hopefully someone can shed light on this.

    Along those same lines, I'm wondering if there was ever one made with a 2x 0 key?

    Yes that was why I was asking. I don't think I'd ever seen a 23U PCB before today. :D

    Swap it around for a 2-unit plus and 2 1-unit keys below, and tell us what happens.

    Yeah if only the plate supported that. :D

    Hmmm, plate.

    But you could connect it and put the springs over the pads to test the output though, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:18:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:10:11

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:06:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:37:22
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 15:01:18
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 14:49:48
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 09:35:44
    Has there ever been a realforce numberpad with all 1x keys?

    Are you asking because the PCB has multiple contacts under the 2x keys that look like they could function as two 1x keys?  I saw that in the pic you posted the other day (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1590630#msg1590630) and was curious myself.  Hopefully someone can shed light on this.

    Along those same lines, I'm wondering if there was ever one made with a 2x 0 key?

    Yes that was why I was asking. I don't think I'd ever seen a 23U PCB before today. :D

    Swap it around for a 2-unit plus and 2 1-unit keys below, and tell us what happens.

    Yeah if only the plate supported that. :D

    Hmmm, plate.

    But you could connect it and put the springs over the pads to test the output though, right?

    Hmm theoretically this *might* work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 19:35:16
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:18:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:10:11
    But you could connect it and put the springs over the pads to test the output though, right?
    Hmm theoretically this *might* work.

    I tried this just now.  The results are kind of interesting.  However, I did completely forget to see how the pad between the +- set of keys would behave.  Oops.   :-[

    Image stolen from SpAmRaY!
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7583/16103839739_87650b4a34_h.jpg)
    Realforce 23U (SpAmRaY) (https://flic.kr/p/qx3ovi) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/people/99522542@N03/), on Flickr



    Maybe someone will find this useful/interesting.   :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 15 January 2015, 20:42:33
    From the one thing I've seen about them, I heard the Gateron blue switches are pretty much identical to MX blues, just a little heavier. Has this been everyone's experience? Thinking of ordering some off Taobao cause they're way cheaper and have a clear housing
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 15 January 2015, 20:54:22
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 15 January 2015, 20:42:33
    From the one thing I've seen about them, I heard the Gateron blue switches are pretty much identical to MX blues, just a little heavier. Has this been everyone's experience? Thinking of ordering some off Taobao cause they're way cheaper and have a clear housing

    might as well

    i've not seen any issue with them either here or on any of the chinese forums

    they seem like the best quality of the chinese clones
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 21:22:23
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 January 2015, 19:35:16
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:18:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:10:11
    But you could connect it and put the springs over the pads to test the output though, right?
    Hmm theoretically this *might* work.

    I tried this just now.  The results are kind of interesting.  However, I did completely forget to see how the pad between the +- set of keys would behave.  Oops.   :-[

    Image stolen from SpAmRaY!
    Show Image
    (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7583/16103839739_87650b4a34_h.jpg)

    Realforce 23U (SpAmRaY) (https://flic.kr/p/qx3ovi) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/people/99522542@N03/), on Flickr


    • Switch position 12B is the one I forgot to test.  12A is '+' and 8 is '-' by default.
    • Switch positions 16A and 20 are both Enter.  16B is the position that is Enter by default.  I'm not sure why they would design it to allow a split key in this position and then map them all back to Enter.  Presumably there would be alternate programming in that case, but it seems odd to have different programming since there is a physical limitation preventing you from pressing 16A and 20 (that there are no springs there :P ).
    • Switch position 17B is '0'.  17A is '0' and 18 is '00' by default.  This makes sense.

    Maybe someone will find this useful/interesting.   :))

    I'm sure that 12B would be '+' as well, then. It makes zero sense for 16A and 20 to both be Enter, though. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 15 January 2015, 22:16:26
    Just received 5pcs tactile grey from mk.com to use for future Octagon keyboard's spacebar.

    Is it okay to apply lube on this MX Grey and sticker as well?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 15 January 2015, 22:18:10
    Quote from: rainb1ood on Thu, 15 January 2015, 22:16:26
    Just received 5pcs tactile grey from mk.com to use for future Octagon keyboard's spacebar.

    Is it okay to apply lube on this MX Grey and sticker as well?
    If you want, sure. It'll have the same effect as on any other tactile switch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 15 January 2015, 22:20:16
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 15 January 2015, 22:18:10
    Quote from: rainb1ood on Thu, 15 January 2015, 22:16:26
    Just received 5pcs tactile grey from mk.com to use for future Octagon keyboard's spacebar.

    Is it okay to apply lube on this MX Grey and sticker as well?
    If you want, sure. It'll have the same effect as on any other tactile switch

    Thanks! Will go ahead and apply lube
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spale on Fri, 16 January 2015, 08:23:27
    My Realforce 55g in on the way (hooray :D) but I have one simple question-is it possible to assign "sleep key" somewhere on this keyboard?
    Will test potential solution, immediately once I receive the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 16 January 2015, 13:29:54
    Has anyone ordered & used led's from this eBay seller before? I'd rather pay a little more and get a higher quality led but if these work just as good...I dunno:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-LED-Diodes-Water-Clear-White-Light-Rectangle-Rectangular-Square-/201172207582?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6cc47de (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-LED-Diodes-Water-Clear-White-Light-Rectangle-Rectangular-Square-/201172207582?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6cc47de)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 16 January 2015, 14:07:56
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 16 January 2015, 13:29:54
    Has anyone ordered & used led's from this eBay seller before? I'd rather pay a little more and get a higher quality led but if these work just as good...I dunno:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-LED-Diodes-Water-Clear-White-Light-Rectangle-Rectangular-Square-/201172207582?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6cc47de (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-LED-Diodes-Water-Clear-White-Light-Rectangle-Rectangular-Square-/201172207582?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6cc47de)

    I usually buy mine from this seller: http://stores.ebay.com/ictouchstore
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Fri, 16 January 2015, 14:45:08
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 16 January 2015, 14:07:56
    Quote from: digi on Fri, 16 January 2015, 13:29:54
    Has anyone ordered & used led's from this eBay seller before? I'd rather pay a little more and get a higher quality led but if these work just as good...I dunno:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-LED-Diodes-Water-Clear-White-Light-Rectangle-Rectangular-Square-/201172207582?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6cc47de (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-LED-Diodes-Water-Clear-White-Light-Rectangle-Rectangular-Square-/201172207582?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6cc47de)

    I usually buy mine from this seller: http://stores.ebay.com/ictouchstore

    Awesome, thanks again, JDizzle. =)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: loudaslife on Fri, 16 January 2015, 14:52:28
    Anybody have (or know where to find) part numbers for Costar-type stabiliser parts? Ones that can be found on Mouser or Digikey?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 16 January 2015, 15:05:22
    Quote from: loudaslife on Fri, 16 January 2015, 14:52:28
    Anybody have (or know where to find) part numbers for Costar-type stabiliser parts? Ones that can be found on Mouser or Digikey?

    The only place I've ever found Costar stabilizers for sale is at WASDkeyboards.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 16 January 2015, 16:06:32
    Quote from: intelli78 on Wed, 14 January 2015, 21:18:03
    TL;DR version of this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67625.0), since it's getting no replies.

    If I put Novatouch sliders into an RF 86u and bend a custom stab wire (since Nova's is too short), will it take a 7x Cherry spacebar? That is, is the stem spacing the same on Topre 7x and Cherry 7x?
    Bump on this one!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 16 January 2015, 16:07:32
    Thanks for the bump! The question has been answered here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67625.0

    The answer is no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 16 January 2015, 16:23:32
    Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 16 January 2015, 16:07:32
    Thanks for the bump! The question has been answered here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67625.0

    The answer is no.
    That's a shame. Could always stem mod it I guess, but butchering a PBT spacebar would make me cry. I would also really love to get a winkeyless, Cherry dyesub RF. I was thinking 86U + RF CS NEO winkeyless casing
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 16 January 2015, 16:58:12
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 16 January 2015, 16:23:32
    RF CS NEO winkeyless casing

    I am not familiar with this, and googling a string of acronyms isn't productive.  :))  What is this casing you're referring to?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 16 January 2015, 17:07:54
    It's a RF keyboard made for CS NEO arcade games in Asia :

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_Realforce_CS_NEO

    (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/---KcycMypj8/UJZRUJggqcI/AAAAAAAACaU/bhPxCTGWu7o/s1000/139.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 16 January 2015, 17:11:37
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 16 January 2015, 16:58:12
    a string of acronyms isn't productive.

    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 16 January 2015, 17:07:54
    RF ... CS NEO

    :| 

    Thankfully, googling just CS NEO was useful.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Fri, 16 January 2015, 17:13:45
    RF = Realforce
    CS NEO = CS NEO

     :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 16 January 2015, 17:16:22
    Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 16 January 2015, 17:13:45
    CS NEO = CS NEO

    Not everyone knows that this is the name of a game!    :-[


     :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 16 January 2015, 20:42:28
    Quote from: loudaslife on Fri, 16 January 2015, 14:52:28
    Anybody have (or know where to find) part numbers for Costar-type stabiliser parts? Ones that can be found on Mouser or Digikey?

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/2-filco-black-stabilizers.asp
    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/4-filco-white-stabilizers.asp

    Part numbers FSTB02 and FSTW04 respectively.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 16 January 2015, 21:34:46
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Fri, 09 January 2015, 02:27:33
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 09 January 2015, 01:57:14
    Corsair K70 RGB.
    Does it use standard ANSI stabilizer/spacebar sizes?
    Is it compatible with the phantom plates?
    Is it compatible with aluminium tenkeyless cases like the filco/vortex?

    K70 does NOT use standard bottom row.
    It uses 1.5 x 1 x 1.25 x 6.5 x 1.25 x 1 x 1 x 1.5

    I'm not sure how to answer the rest, the bottom row caps wouldn't be compatible with a phantom plate since phantom is standard but everything besides the space bar stabs could be harvested used on a phantom plate, you'd just have source a 6.25u spacebar stab wire.
    The entire piece is installed on an aluminum plate which also makes up the case so it's not compatible with anything really.

    How about the Corsair K95 RGB ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Fri, 16 January 2015, 21:44:32
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 16 January 2015, 21:34:46
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Fri, 09 January 2015, 02:27:33
    Quote from: domoaligato on Fri, 09 January 2015, 01:57:14
    Corsair K70 RGB.
    Does it use standard ANSI stabilizer/spacebar sizes?
    Is it compatible with the phantom plates?
    Is it compatible with aluminium tenkeyless cases like the filco/vortex?

    K70 does NOT use standard bottom row.
    It uses 1.5 x 1 x 1.25 x 6.5 x 1.25 x 1 x 1 x 1.5

    I'm not sure how to answer the rest, the bottom row caps wouldn't be compatible with a phantom plate since phantom is standard but everything besides the space bar stabs could be harvested used on a phantom plate, you'd just have source a 6.25u spacebar stab wire.
    The entire piece is installed on an aluminum plate which also makes up the case so it's not compatible with anything really.

    How about the Corsair K95 RGB ?

    All Corsair keyboards use the same non-standard bottom row. Since it's a full size keyboard, it is not compatible with phantom plates and the TKL cases by filco and vortex (please note: I'm not sure if there are any full sized cases made by them either).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 17 January 2015, 18:34:21
    Quote from: moralles on Fri, 16 January 2015, 21:44:32

    All Corsair keyboards use the same non-standard bottom row. Since it's a full size keyboard, it is not compatible with phantom plates and the TKL cases by filco and vortex (please note: I'm not sure if there are any full sized cases made by them either).

    sorry I should have made a complete question. I was thinking about the layout. thanks for answering both questions bro. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Sat, 17 January 2015, 20:55:21
    How much does a Tex 60% aluminum case weigh?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 17 January 2015, 21:48:07
    Quote from: MGH on Sat, 17 January 2015, 20:55:21
    How much does a Tex 60% aluminum case weigh?

    (link removed)
    nvm sorry that one's acrylic :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Sat, 17 January 2015, 21:49:34
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 17 January 2015, 21:48:07
    Quote from: MGH on Sat, 17 January 2015, 20:55:21
    How much does a Tex 60% aluminum case weigh?

    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tex-acrylic-cnc-keyboard-case?mode=guest_open

    5.68oz (161.03g)
    Aluminum, not Acrylic :)) I couldn't find any info on mechanicalkeyboards.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 17 January 2015, 22:28:00
    Quote from: MGH on Sat, 17 January 2015, 21:49:34
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 17 January 2015, 21:48:07
    Quote from: MGH on Sat, 17 January 2015, 20:55:21
    How much does a Tex 60% aluminum case weigh?

    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tex-acrylic-cnc-keyboard-case?mode=guest_open

    5.68oz (161.03g)
    Aluminum, not Acrylic :)) I couldn't find any info on mechanicalkeyboards.com

    Sorry, I didn't notice the material until too late.

    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/metal-60-case?mode=guest_open

    This is Vortex aluminium case at 12.99oz (368.26g).

    A similar case from Pexon http://pexonpcs.co.uk/products/60-aluminium-case is around 320g.

    Most 60% cases would probably be around the same weight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 18 January 2015, 17:53:21
    Quote from: MGH on Sat, 17 January 2015, 20:55:21
    How much does a Tex 60% aluminum case weigh?

    My scale says 13.1 oz.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 7Teku on Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:45:26
    I was looking to get Ducky Mini, but I don't like how wide the bezel of the case is (part around the keys) and that it is silver. Are there any other aluminum cases that would fit the Ducky Mini?

    I was looking at a case made by Tex, but the USB port is in a different place than on the Mini. I'll link it anyways just to give an idea of what I'm looking for. http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630)

    Thanks :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 06:39:26
    Quote from: 7Teku on Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:45:26
    I was looking to get Ducky Mini, but I don't like how wide the bezel of the case is (part around the keys) and that it is silver. Are there any other aluminum cases that would fit the Ducky Mini?

    I was looking at a case made by Tex, but the USB port is in a different place than on the Mini. I'll link it anyways just to give an idea of what I'm looking for. http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630)

    Thanks :p
    You might as well just get a Poker or a Pure or something similar if you want to go that route, since those boards are compatible with all standard cases
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 7Teku on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:05:30
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 06:39:26
    Quote from: 7Teku on Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:45:26
    I was looking to get Ducky Mini, but I don't like how wide the bezel of the case is (part around the keys) and that it is silver. Are there any other aluminum cases that would fit the Ducky Mini?

    I was looking at a case made by Tex, but the USB port is in a different place than on the Mini. I'll link it anyways just to give an idea of what I'm looking for. http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630)

    Thanks :p
    You might as well just get a Poker or a Pure or something similar if you want to go that route, since those boards are compatible with all standard cases
    The reason I was thinking of the Mini was because I didn't really want to install backlights myself/I wanted purple backlighting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:43:19
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Space-Saving-Keyboard-SSK-ID5000133-41G3613-/261742103850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf10b8d2a

    Does that look like an Industrial to anyone else? Pic is so potato.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:45:39
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:43:19
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Space-Saving-Keyboard-SSK-ID5000133-41G3613-/261742103850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf10b8d2a

    Does that look like an Industrial to anyone else? Pic is so potato.

    Looks like its got an instagram filter on it :D

    Still though, I'd call industrial. It looks overly blue, so maybe tone down the blue in a photo editor and see if that helps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:45:56
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:43:19
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Space-Saving-Keyboard-SSK-ID5000133-41G3613-/261742103850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf10b8d2a

    Does that look like an Industrial to anyone else? Pic is so potato.

    Yeah and the model number looks right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:49:30
    Cool - posted in great finds
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67869.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 January 2015, 14:52:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:45:56
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:43:19
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Space-Saving-Keyboard-SSK-ID5000133-41G3613-/261742103850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf10b8d2a

    Does that look like an Industrial to anyone else? Pic is so potato.

    Yeah and the model number looks right.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:49:30
    Cool - posted in great finds
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67869.0

    Just FYI, upon further inspection, this board looks like it's a no-go. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67869)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 18:57:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 January 2015, 14:52:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:45:56
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:43:19
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Space-Saving-Keyboard-SSK-ID5000133-41G3613-/261742103850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf10b8d2a

    Does that look like an Industrial to anyone else? Pic is so potato.

    Yeah and the model number looks right.

    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 12:49:30
    Cool - posted in great finds
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67869.0

    Just FYI, upon further inspection, this board looks like it's a no-go. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67869)

    And on further further inspection, seems legit (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67869.msg1601974#msg1601974).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:10:49
    Would this layout be possible using an AT as a starting point with just moving caps, barrels and such around or will it need a custom PCB?  I have done a little digging and found that the pcb does have pads in all places but I am not sure if the pads in the numpad area where I went from 2 unit keys to singles to make a 4x5 matrix register at the controller.

    If possible, would both Soarers converter and xwhatsit controller work or do I need the xwhatsit due to using extra pads?

    keyboard layout editor link (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@=Insert&=Delete&_x:0.5%3B&=Esc&=F1%0A1&=F2%0A2&=F3%0A3&=F4%0A4&=F5%0A5&=F6%0A6&=F7%0A7&=F8%0A8&=F9%0A9&=F10%0A0&=F11%0A-&=F12%0A%2F=&_w:2%3B&=Backspace&_x:0.5%3B&=7%0AHome&=8%0A%E2%86%91&=9%0APgUp&=Num%0A%0A%0A%0A%0A%0ALock%3B&@=Home&=End&_x:0.5&w:1.5%3B&=Tab&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5%3B&=%7C%0A%5C&_x:0.5%3B&=4%0A%E2%86%90&=5&=6%0A%E2%86%92&=%2F%2F%3B&@=PgUp&=PgDn&_x:0.5&w:1.75%3B&=Ctrl&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&_w:2.25%3B&=Enter&_x:0.5%3B&=1%0AEnd&=2%0A%E2%86%93&=3%0APgDn&=*%3B&@=Vol%20+&=Vol%20-&_x:0.5&w:2.25%3B&=Shift&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_w:2.75%3B&=Shift&_x:0.5%3B&=0%0AIns&=%E2%86%91&=.%0ADel&=-%3B&@=PrtSc&=Fn&_x:0.5&w:1.5%3B&=Caps%20Lock%0AAlt&_x:1&w:10%3B&=&_x:1&w:1.5%3B&=Win&_x:0.5%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&=+)

    Edit:  finished legends.

    Can it be done to an AT and keep stock PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 22 January 2015, 03:39:32
    I think it could work. I'll have to check through etwentynine's AT model F build guide to see where the PCB pads are and which ones he's using (and how). If you need, I can soarer test my AT to see what pads are or arent usable. You can do this with the flip plates on the PCB (no case.barrels) if you're careful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:54:20
    Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 22 January 2015, 03:39:32
    I think it could work. I'll have to check through etwentynine's AT model F build guide to see where the PCB pads are and which ones he's using (and how). If you need, I can soarer test my AT to see what pads are or arent usable. You can do this with the flip plates on the PCB (no case.barrels) if you're careful.

    According to some threads at DT it does look like it will work with either.  I think I will go with xwhatsit for this one.

    Now that being said what are my options for getting one in hand for prioritizing speed or price?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:55:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:54:20
    Now that being said what are my options for getting one in hand for prioritizing speed or price?

    I think you're asking what the cheapest or fastest way to get an AT F? eBay, classifieds, ewaste recycler.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:58:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:55:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:54:20
    Now that being said what are my options for getting one in hand for prioritizing speed or price?

    I think you're asking what the cheapest or fastest way to get an AT F? eBay, classifieds, ewaste recycler.

    Sorry was referring to xwhatsit controller.

    Cheapest option vs fastest option
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 13:02:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:58:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:55:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:54:20
    Now that being said what are my options for getting one in hand for prioritizing speed or price?

    I think you're asking what the cheapest or fastest way to get an AT F? eBay, classifieds, ewaste recycler.

    Sorry was referring to xwhatsit controller.

    Cheapest option vs fastest option

    Cheapest is to buy it from xwhatsit. Fastest? There was a user on DT or GH who had like thirty controllers for sale and I think he was in the USA. If I had to pick? I'd get it from xwhatsit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 22 January 2015, 13:50:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 13:02:14
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:58:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:55:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:54:20
    Now that being said what are my options for getting one in hand for prioritizing speed or price?

    I think you're asking what the cheapest or fastest way to get an AT F? eBay, classifieds, ewaste recycler.

    Sorry was referring to xwhatsit controller.

    Cheapest option vs fastest option

    Cheapest is to buy it from xwhatsit. Fastest? There was a user on DT or GH who had like thirty controllers for sale and I think he was in the USA. If I had to pick? I'd get it from xwhatsit.

    His username here is Ellipse. I believe he still has three left. I bought two from him for $30 each, plus $5 shipping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 14:00:03
    Thanks guys, I am now debating on doing a small run of these.  Just not sure if I would need to test with a scope on each one or if that has already been taken care of and I would just need to solder it up and have at it with the software side.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:30:38
    The PCBs from winkeyless come with controllers right? The first option "controller soldering and firmware update" is just for the actually soldering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:18:36
    Has anyone used thin lube on clears to obtain a bump in between brown and clear?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:39:06
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:30:38
    The PCBs from winkeyless come with controllers right? The first option "controller soldering and firmware update" is just for the actually soldering?

    I can't tell. Google Translate isn't helping. I would guess that they don't from the pictures unless you specify in the first option.

    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:18:36
    Has anyone used thin lube on clears to obtain a bump in between brown and clear?

    I'm not sure the lube consistency changes the feeling of the bump all that much. That being said, I've not tried it myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:42:06
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:30:38
    The PCBs from winkeyless come with controllers right? The first option "controller soldering and firmware update" is just for the actually soldering?

    yes, it comes with the controller regardless of whether or not you want it done for you or not. if you look below he has this state in the list (for the TKL anyways) "Tenkeyless-Sized PCB and Controller parts"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:42:29
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:42:06
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:30:38
    The PCBs from winkeyless come with controllers right? The first option "controller soldering and firmware update" is just for the actually soldering?

    yes, it comes with the controller regardless of whether or not you want it done for you or not. if you look below he has this state in the list (for the TKL anyways) "Tenkeyless-Sized PCB and Controller parts"
    cool, thanks :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:44:44
    I'm too lazy to search and on my phone. Can someone link me to dental bands for topre silencing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:48:20
    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:18:36
    Has anyone used thin lube on clears to obtain a bump in between brown and clear?

    I've lubed 68g tactile greys with the thin lube sold by CtrlAlt and comparing it with 68g un lubed clears, the tactile feedback is definitely less pronounced but not by that much which I much prefer since it does make it feel more linear with a still, very much more pronounced (compared to browns) tactile feel. Keep in mind thought that I don't have any access to any thick lube so I'm not sure how it feels compared to that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 19:09:54
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:44:44
    I'm too lazy to search and on my phone. Can someone link me to dental bands for topre silencing?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44692.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:07:10
    What type of wire is used in keypullers?

    Also whats the easiest way to make the wires on new pullers more extended (not flat)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:11:20
    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:07:10
    What type of wire is used in keypullers?

    I would guess piano or music wire. I measure the diameter of my TechKeys keypuller's wire to be .035 inches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:55:47
    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:07:10
    What type of wire is used in keypullers?

    Also whats the easiest way to make the wires on new pullers more extended (not flat)

    You will want to use .031/.032 inch diameter in case you want to reach between DSA caps as they seem to sit a touch closer together.  CBA's suggestion will work fine but I find that diameter tough to get into some spots on my Rosewill with PBT DSA caps.

    As far as material selection, you will want something with either a spring temper (generally music wire) or hardened and preferentially stainless so it doesn't rust.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:59:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:55:47
    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:07:10
    What type of wire is used in keypullers?

    Also whats the easiest way to make the wires on new pullers more extended (not flat)

    You will want to use .031/.032 inch diameter in case you want to reach between DSA caps as they seem to sit a touch closer together.  CBA's suggestion will work fine but I find that diameter tough to get into some spots on my Rosewill with PBT DSA caps.

    As far as material selection, you will want something with either a spring temper (generally music wire) or hardened and preferentially stainless so it doesn't rust.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:11:20
    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:07:10
    What type of wire is used in keypullers?

    I would guess piano or music wire. I measure the diameter of my TechKeys keypuller's wire to be .035 inches.

    Thanks for the info!

    For music wire, what would you use to bend it? Would simple pliers work? Also is there any way to bend it consistently?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:03:00
    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:59:12
    For music wire, what would you use to bend it? Would simple pliers work? Also is there any way to bend it consistently?

    Vice and pliers, bare hands, a bending/forming tool, a specialty wire bending tool like this dubro wire forming tool (http://shop.dubro.com/p/e-z-bender-wire-forming-tool) are all options.


    Consistently? A wire bending machine or a jig that you make yourself would be the most consistent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:05:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:03:00
    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:59:12
    For music wire, what would you use to bend it? Would simple pliers work? Also is there any way to bend it consistently?

    Vice and pliers, bare hands, a bending/forming tool, a specialty wire bending tool like this dubro wire forming tool (http://shop.dubro.com/p/e-z-bender-wire-forming-tool) are all options.


    Consistently? A wire bending machine or a jig that you make yourself would be the most consistent.
    OK thanks! Time to buy some wire and do some experimenting :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:06:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:03:00
    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:59:12
    For music wire, what would you use to bend it? Would simple pliers work? Also is there any way to bend it consistently?

    Vice and pliers, bare hands, a bending/forming tool, a specialty wire bending tool like this dubro wire forming tool (http://shop.dubro.com/p/e-z-bender-wire-forming-tool) are all options.


    Consistently? A wire bending machine or a jig that you make yourself would be the most consistent.

    Also, keep in mind that some music wire (at least the kind I used) is very hard steel and difficult to cut with a wire cutters (meaning it will just dent the cutters and the wire will not cut), so you'll likely end up having to cut it with a dremel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:06:21
    Quote from: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:59:12
    For music wire, what would you use to bend it? Would simple pliers work? Also is there any way to bend it consistently?

    You can easily bend that size wire with hand tools (pliers), but if you want consistent bends, you might want something like this:

    Du-Bro E/Z Bender Wire Forming Tool (http://shop.dubro.com/p/e-z-bender-wire-forming-tool)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 23 January 2015, 07:12:43
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:06:21

    You can easily bend that size wire with hand tools (pliers),


    At some point in the taper of the tip of your needle-nosed pliers the width across the flat will be the same width you need for a key cap. Hold the pliers tight and press the wire against the table top. Do both sides without releasing it from the pliers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:22:46
    Is there a recommended way to cut up a PCB to minimize damage?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:25:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:22:46
    Is there a recommended way to cut up a PCB to minimize damage?

    What do you mean by minimize damage? Looking for a clean cut? Or the safest location to cut a PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:33:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:25:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:22:46
    Is there a recommended way to cut up a PCB to minimize damage?

    What do you mean by minimize damage? Looking for a clean cut? Or the safest location to cut a PCB?
    Clean, not concerned with functionality.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:49:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:33:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:25:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:22:46
    Is there a recommended way to cut up a PCB to minimize damage?

    What do you mean by minimize damage? Looking for a clean cut? Or the safest location to cut a PCB?
    Clean, not concerned with functionality.

    Bandsaw would probably be cleanest. But I'm sure a hacksaw and a steady hand would be just fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:57:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:49:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:33:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:25:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:22:46
    Is there a recommended way to cut up a PCB to minimize damage?

    What do you mean by minimize damage? Looking for a clean cut? Or the safest location to cut a PCB?
    Clean, not concerned with functionality.

    Bandsaw would probably be cleanest. But I'm sure a hacksaw and a steady hand would be just fine.

    Dremel with a cutting wheel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 11:39:45
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:57:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:49:33
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:33:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:25:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:22:46
    Is there a recommended way to cut up a PCB to minimize damage?

    What do you mean by minimize damage? Looking for a clean cut? Or the safest location to cut a PCB?
    Clean, not concerned with functionality.

    Bandsaw would probably be cleanest. But I'm sure a hacksaw and a steady hand would be just fine.

    Dremel with a cutting wheel?
    This is what I was thinking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 24 January 2015, 13:27:19
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 11:39:45
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:57:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:49:33
    Bandsaw would probably be cleanest.
    Dremel with a cutting wheel?
    This is what I was thinking.

    For me, a good saw with a sharp blade will do far better than I could with a Dremel.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:20:03
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:22:46
    Is there a recommended way to cut up a PCB to minimize damage?

    One of those oscillating multi tools with the curved blade work great for cutting PCB.  It does make a lot of dust that is bad for you so try and do it outside.  But it does make a very clean cut and puts very little heat in the PBC.  Just don't hold in one spot to long.  Make long strokes back and forth across the pcb.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 12:44:51
    I'm gonna get a 60% and I was looking at browns because they have a silent bump, I don't think I'll be happy with reds because they feel so flat but I don't want blues because I want to take it everywhere without making a ton of noise. However, wherever I go I see people talking bad about browns. Should I just go for blues and say the click is worth it? I love my blues but I just feel like for taking it around in public browns would be the best option. Are clears the better option? I know they're heavier and I have it in my tester but I just don't know if it's the best for regular typing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:03:53
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 12:44:51
    I'm gonna get a 60% and I was looking at browns because they have a silent bump, I don't think I'll be happy with reds because they feel so flat but I don't want blues because I want to take it everywhere without making a ton of noise. However, wherever I go I see people talking bad about browns. Should I just go for blues and say the click is worth it? I love my blues but I just feel like for taking it around in public browns would be the best option. Are clears the better option? I know they're heavier and I have it in my tester but I just don't know if it's the best for regular typing.

    Could you tell me a little more about your switch preferences? Do you like heavier or lighter switches? Do you know if you like clicky or tactile or linear? Do you bottom out when you type?

    It's hard to say what is best for your use case until there's a little more information. For example, I find that for myself, I always bottom out and like heavier switches. If I were to have a board that I use in public, I would choose a linear switch. Either a stock MX black or maybe something like MX black stems + MX clear springs or 65g springs. I find I type most quiet with linear switches. But to just say, "This switch is bad because I saw it's bad" isn't helpful because I don't know what you like other than you like Blues and don't like Reds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:32:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:03:53
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 12:44:51
    I'm gonna get a 60% and I was looking at browns because they have a silent bump, I don't think I'll be happy with reds because they feel so flat but I don't want blues because I want to take it everywhere without making a ton of noise. However, wherever I go I see people talking bad about browns. Should I just go for blues and say the click is worth it? I love my blues but I just feel like for taking it around in public browns would be the best option. Are clears the better option? I know they're heavier and I have it in my tester but I just don't know if it's the best for regular typing.

    Could you tell me a little more about your switch preferences? Do you like heavier or lighter switches? Do you know if you like clicky or tactile or linear? Do you bottom out when you type?

    It's hard to say what is best for your use case until there's a little more information. For example, I find that for myself, I always bottom out and like heavier switches. If I were to have a board that I use in public, I would choose a linear switch. Either a stock MX black or maybe something like MX black stems + MX clear springs or 65g springs. I find I type most quiet with linear switches. But to just say, "This switch is bad because I saw it's bad" isn't helpful because I don't know what you like other than you like Blues and don't like Reds.
    I love click and based off of my tester I like tactile petty well although not as much. I tend to bottom out with my blues unless it's with something like my pinkie with less force. Whenever I feel the blacks or reds on the tester or on demos at a store it just feels a bit mushy to me. I'm no diy wizard either so I don't know how to swap Springs around and make all these wacky switch types, but it might be worth a shot once.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:33:48
    Sounds like you need a HHKB.


    You might like a board with Greens though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:42:29
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:33:48
    Sounds like you need a HHKB.


    You might like a board with Greens though.
    I do NOT have the money for an hhkb, at least for now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:11:51
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:32:04
    I love click and based off of my tester I like tactile petty well although not as much. I tend to bottom out with my blues unless it's with something like my pinkie with less force. Whenever I feel the blacks or reds on the tester or on demos at a store it just feels a bit mushy to me. I'm no diy wizard either so I don't know how to swap Springs around and make all these wacky switch types, but it might be worth a shot once.

    If you're really stuck on the stock switches, just keep using Blues. If you want something modded, drhubblephd (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65125.10) is still doing free mods.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:24:35
    If I want to make my own Cherry Corp metallic stickers, do I need copyright permission? And if I plan on distributing them, if I make profit do I need copyright, if I sell them for no profit do I need copyright, or can I not do it at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:38:36
    I'd e-mail Cherry and ask if you could.  They may say yes, they may say no.  They have been done in the past, but I don't know if permission was asked.  I don't think anyone got any cease and desist letters from them though.

    As for the profit issue, things like that are generally less sticky if it's not done for profit.  If they give you the go-ahead, they may ask for a percentage of the profit or they may say it's fine as long as the numbers are small.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:44:12
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:38:36
    I'd e-mail Cherry and ask if you could.  They may say yes, they may say no.  They have been done in the past, but I don't know if permission was asked.  I don't think anyone got any cease and desist letters from them though.

    As for the profit issue, things like that are generally less sticky if it's not done for profit.  If they give you the go-ahead, they may ask for a percentage of the profit or they may say it's fine as long as the numbers are small.
    Ok, thanks, because I want to print a couple of colored metallic, vinyl, and acrylic ones, and in case other people wanted some I didn't want to be in a grey area.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:49:42
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:44:12
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:38:36
    I'd e-mail Cherry and ask if you could.  They may say yes, they may say no.  They have been done in the past, but I don't know if permission was asked.  I don't think anyone got any cease and desist letters from them though.

    As for the profit issue, things like that are generally less sticky if it's not done for profit.  If they give you the go-ahead, they may ask for a percentage of the profit or they may say it's fine as long as the numbers are small.
    Ok, thanks, because I want to print a couple of colored metallic, vinyl, and acrylic ones, and in case other people wanted some I didn't want to be in a grey area.
    you should contact the Ctr.Alt.io team , they're selling similar stickers , so they probably know .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:50:18
    I believe their stickers are from the buy that was run a while ago.  I don't think they made new ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 16:18:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:11:51
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:32:04
    I love click and based off of my tester I like tactile petty well although not as much. I tend to bottom out with my blues unless it's with something like my pinkie with less force. Whenever I feel the blacks or reds on the tester or on demos at a store it just feels a bit mushy to me. I'm no diy wizard either so I don't know how to swap Springs around and make all these wacky switch types, but it might be worth a shot once.

    If you're really stuck on the stock switches, just keep using Blues. If you want something modded, drhubblephd (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65125.10) is still doing free mods.
    So I could get him to swap out the brown stems with clears or something so it feels better? Or is it a spring issue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 January 2015, 20:20:13
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 16:18:43
    So I could get him to swap out the brown stems with clears or something so it feels better? Or is it a spring issue?

    You can ask him what mods he's willing to perform. Then it's up to you to figure out what mods you want. Here's some ideas on possible mods (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58813.msg1344507#msg1344507).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 20:27:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 January 2015, 20:20:13
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 16:18:43
    So I could get him to swap out the brown stems with clears or something so it feels better? Or is it a spring issue?

    You can ask him what mods he's willing to perform. Then it's up to you to figure out what mods you want. Here's some ideas on possible mods (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58813.msg1344507#msg1344507).
    I might ask him to hook me up with some Ergo Clears on it like I said. We shall see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:12:11
    Quick question on stabilizers:

    Are stabilizers supposed to change the feeling of the keypress on mechanical switches? I'm asking this question because I have a K70 rgb with reds and my enter/spacebar/shift keys feel different. They are not as *clacky* when I press them compared to my letters key for example.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:15:11
    Quote from: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:12:11
    Quick question on stabilizers:

    Are stabilizers supposed to change the feeling of the keypress on mechanical switches? I'm asking this question because I have a K70 rgb with reds and my enter/spacebar/shift keys feel different. They are not as *clacky* when I press them compared to my letters key for example.

    They're not supposed to be they can. It looks like the K70 has Cherry stabilizers (http://forums.ncixus.com/forums/topic.php?id=2615833)? You can try clipping them. I do this on all my MX boards which have Cherry stabilizers. For some more detailed information about the mod and why it might happen, here's a thread on DT (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/cherry-corp-stabilizers-gimme-back-my-clack-ok-whaaat-t2780.html) and on GH (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34759.msg643126#msg643126).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:29:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:15:11
    Quote from: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:12:11
    Quick question on stabilizers:

    Are stabilizers supposed to change the feeling of the keypress on mechanical switches? I'm asking this question because I have a K70 rgb with reds and my enter/spacebar/shift keys feel different. They are not as *clacky* when I press them compared to my letters key for example.

    They're not supposed to be they can. It looks like the K70 has Cherry stabilizers? You can try clipping them. I do this on all my MX boards. For some more detailed information about the mod and why it might happen, here's a thread on DT (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/cherry-corp-stabilizers-gimme-back-my-clack-ok-whaaat-t2780.html) and on GH (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34759.msg643126#msg643126).

    Thank you for the information!

    I'm trying to find information on the K70 RGB stabilizers. I know the K70 uses Cherry but some have been reporting the RGB variant uses Corsar. Are Corsar supposed to be better than Cherry?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:31:40
    Quote from: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:29:07
    I'm trying to find information on the K70 RGB stabilizers. I know the K70 uses Cherry but some have been reporting the RGB variant uses Costar. Are Costar supposed to be better than Cherry?

    Think you're mixing Corsair the company, and Costar the stabilizers. And if you just pull a cap off your board where the stabilizers are, I can tell you right away what you have. I wouldn't say they're better or worse. Just a personal preference thing. I prefer clipped Cherry stabilizers. Don't need to fumble with the Costar insert and it still feels crisp.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:35:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:31:40
    Quote from: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:29:07
    I'm trying to find information on the K70 RGB stabilizers. I know the K70 uses Cherry but some have been reporting the RGB variant uses Costar. Are Costar supposed to be better than Cherry?

    Think you're mixing Corsair the company, and Costar the stabilizers. And if you just pull a cap off your board where the stabilizers are, I can tell you right away what you have. I wouldn't say they're better or worse. Just a personal preference thing. I prefer clipped Cherry stabilizers. Don't need to fumble with the Costar insert and it still feels crisp.

    No really, I don't mix them :) Like I said, it's all report online and nothing official. More like a rumour it has Costar now. Tonight, I will take a picture with a keycap off. Is the spacebar good for you?

    And btw, thank you very much for the very clear answers and ULTRA FAST replies :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:36:51
    Quote from: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:35:02
    Tonight, I will take a picture with a keycap off. Is the spacebar good for you?

    And btw, thank you very much for the very clear answers and ULTRA FAST replies :D

    Whatever is easiest for you. Backspace, shifts, spacebar. All will work fine. And you're welcome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:57:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:31:40
    Quote from: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:29:07
    I'm trying to find information on the K70 RGB stabilizers. I know the K70 uses Cherry but some have been reporting the RGB variant uses Costar. Are Costar supposed to be better than Cherry?

    Think you're mixing Corsair the company, and Costar the stabilizers. And if you just pull a cap off your board where the stabilizers are, I can tell you right away what you have. I wouldn't say they're better or worse. Just a personal preference thing. I prefer clipped Cherry stabilizers. Don't need to fumble with the Costar insert and it still feels crisp.

    Yeah it doesn't matter.  If the wire is above the plate its costar, if the wire is below the plate, it is cherry.  If there is no plate it has to be cherry as pcb mount costar does not exist.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:52:03
    What's the formatting to have an image that when clicked, goes to an URL?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:57:07
    Quote from: MGH on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:52:03
    What's the formatting to have an image that when clicked, goes to an URL?

    Code: [Select]
    [url=inserturlhere][img]insertimgurlhere[/img][/url]
    Code: [Select]
    [url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1612093#msg1612093][img]http://i.imgur.com/vD0IfmW.jpg[/img][/url]
    (http://i.imgur.com/vD0IfmW.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1612093#msg1612093)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 17:26:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:36:51
    Quote from: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:35:02
    Tonight, I will take a picture with a keycap off. Is the spacebar good for you?

    And btw, thank you very much for the very clear answers and ULTRA FAST replies :D

    Whatever is easiest for you. Backspace, shifts, spacebar. All will work fine. And you're welcome.

    Left shift:

    (http://i.imgur.com/Mg0vimw.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/VL6DgdL.jpg)

    I guess the cross is a cherry signature right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 26 January 2015, 17:28:40
    ^ those are Cherry plate mount stabs. You can remove them, but you have to desolder the switch first. Then you can clip them, and reinstall the stabs, and finally resolder the switch in place.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 17:32:44
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 26 January 2015, 17:28:40
    ^ those are Cherry plate mount stabs. You can remove them, but you have to desolder the switch first. Then you can clip them, and reinstall the stabs, and finally resolder the switch in place.

    Aye. I'm a bit nervous to try my hands on a 200$ keyboard for my first solder job but I'll definitely look into it :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Merranza on Mon, 26 January 2015, 17:37:53
    Hell, looking back at those pictures, if it wasn't for those dust particles, they'd make pretty good pictures for some cherry exhibit :P

    Cell phones are taking amazing pictures with the right lighting nowadays :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 26 January 2015, 18:14:46
    Anyone happen to know if the old Hot Wheels keyboards were mechanical? I'd assume not, but I figured I'd check. It's a rebranded LiteOn SK-1100 according to the UL number on the label, but I can't find any information on it. I know LiteOn made one or two mechanicals as well as some with Maxi switches (now owned by LiteOn), but I think the rest were rubber dome.

    (http://images.shopgoodwill.com/171/1-26-2015/7949792267282912.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fr4nc3sc0NL on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:29:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:36:40

    Quote from: Fr4nc3sc0NL on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:21:10
    I'm having an issue with my kbt race II and my hackintosh. I have to reconnect it everytime I restart it. Is there a firmwareupdate for this keyboard, and if so where can I find it? If not, will this be an issue with my macbook pro too?

    I can't find if there is a firmware update. You could try emailing the contact information here (http://rabbitwebfactory.com/pages/kbt_race_2_limited_edition).

    You could just try plugging it into the macbook pro and letting us know. I don't know off the top of my head and I'm curious to know hte answer.


    Well, the macbook finally arrived and the keyboard turns out to be fully working! :) :D
    Probably not interesting for most ppl but I now think it was just a usb driver bug with my hackintosh.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:42:08
    I emailed cherry and they said that under any conditions, even if I make no profit, I cannot produce stickers since it is a trademark and copyrighted
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:43:01
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:42:08
    I emailed cherry and they said that under any conditions, even if I make no profit, I cannot produce stickers since it is a trademark and copyrighted

    This would be why no one has ever asked permission.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:43:32

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:43:01
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:42:08
    I emailed cherry and they said that under any conditions, even if I make no profit, I cannot produce stickers since it is a trademark and copyrighted

    This would be why no one has ever asked.
    Yep, I figured the others haven't asked.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: platypus on Tue, 27 January 2015, 12:00:03
    What weight of the korean gold springs will feel most like those in  a stock mx blue/red? (which seem to have an identical spring just by comparing them visually)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 January 2015, 12:01:36
    Quote from: Fr4nc3sc0NL on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:29:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:36:40

    Quote from: Fr4nc3sc0NL on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:21:10
    I'm having an issue with my kbt race II and my hackintosh. I have to reconnect it everytime I restart it. Is there a firmwareupdate for this keyboard, and if so where can I find it? If not, will this be an issue with my macbook pro too?

    I can't find if there is a firmware update. You could try emailing the contact information here (http://rabbitwebfactory.com/pages/kbt_race_2_limited_edition).

    You could just try plugging it into the macbook pro and letting us know. I don't know off the top of my head and I'm curious to know the answer.


    Well, the macbook finally arrived and the keyboard turns out to be fully working! :) :D
    Probably not interesting for most ppl but I now think it was just a usb driver bug with my hackintosh.

    Thanks for the update :).

    Quote from: platypus on Tue, 27 January 2015, 12:00:03
    What weight of the korean gold springs will feel most like those in  a stock mx blue/red? (which seem to have an identical spring just by comparing them visually)

    55g I believe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oledome on Wed, 28 January 2015, 07:55:23
    What plastics company does GH use that can produce PBT ISO keycaps? Dyesub, doubleshot options? Where are they based?

    How can I search within a thread?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:20:17
    Since Unicomp takes way too long to respond and someone here probably knows :
    when you buy "buttons" at Unicomp is it the full keycaps (Stem + top printed part) or only the top printed part ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:23:05
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:20:17
    Since Unicomp takes way too long to respond and someone here probably knows :
    when you buy "buttons" at Unicomp is it the full keycaps (Stem + top printed part) or only the top printed part ?
    They're just the little "button" that fits on top of the stem
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:26:33
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:23:05
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:20:17
    when you buy "buttons" at Unicomp is it the full keycaps (Stem + top printed part) or only the top printed part ?
    They're just the little "button" that fits on top of the stem

    I have bought several times, and they have always supplied stems with the caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:26:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:23:05
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:20:17
    Since Unicomp takes way too long to respond and someone here probably knows :
    when you buy "buttons" at Unicomp is it the full keycaps (Stem + top printed part) or only the top printed part ?
    They're just the little "button" that fits on top of the stem

    They always have sent me the entire cap, stem piece and all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:28:10
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:26:33
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:23:05
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:20:17
    when you buy "buttons" at Unicomp is it the full keycaps (Stem + top printed part) or only the top printed part ?
    They're just the little "button" that fits on top of the stem

    I have bought several times, and they have always supplied stems with the caps.
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:26:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:23:05
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:20:17
    Since Unicomp takes way too long to respond and someone here probably knows :
    when you buy "buttons" at Unicomp is it the full keycaps (Stem + top printed part) or only the top printed part ?
    They're just the little "button" that fits on top of the stem

    They always have sent me the entire cap, stem piece and all.
    I'll believe the elders , sry Hwood and thanks guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:30:35
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:28:10
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:26:33
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:23:05
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:20:17
    when you buy "buttons" at Unicomp is it the full keycaps (Stem + top printed part) or only the top printed part ?
    They're just the little "button" that fits on top of the stem

    I have bought several times, and they have always supplied stems with the caps.
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:26:49
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:23:05
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:20:17
    Since Unicomp takes way too long to respond and someone here probably knows :
    when you buy "buttons" at Unicomp is it the full keycaps (Stem + top printed part) or only the top printed part ?
    They're just the little "button" that fits on top of the stem

    They always have sent me the entire cap, stem piece and all.
    I'll believe the elders , sry Hwood and thanks guys.
    Yeah, I'm a little off today. Luckily there's more than just me to answer ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:41:43
    Quote from: oledome on Wed, 28 January 2015, 07:55:23
    What plastics company does GH use that can produce PBT ISO keycaps? Dyesub, doubleshot options? Where are they based?

    How can I search within a thread?

    One is Signature Plastics (www.keycapsdirect.com/).

    Once in a thread, if you use the search box in the upper right, it will search the thread.  Another (maybe better?) way to search GH would be to add site:geekhack.org to your google search. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vmod on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:53:30
    Awesome guide. I skimmed through most.
    I would read this thread not in a way to get info beforehand but rather a reference thread to get all my questions answered as I get to know more about mechanical keyboards.

    So far most my basic questions got answered. Thank you.

    EDIT :
    @OP
    Minor mistake

    This question
    Quote
    What are the different keycap material types?
    Leads to
    Quote
    Is there a glossary for common abbreviations?

    And the FAQ does not answer the material type question ever.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oledome on Wed, 28 January 2015, 13:41:32
    Quote from: infiniti on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:41:43
    Quote from: oledome on Wed, 28 January 2015, 07:55:23

    One is Signature Plastics (www.keycapsdirect.com/).

    Once in a thread, if you use the search box in the upper right, it will search the thread.  Another (maybe better?) way to search GH would be to add site:geekhack.org to your google search. ;)

    Thank you for the quick response, I hadn't realised the forum search was in context with the page being displayed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 06:02:26
    Quote from: vmod on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:53:30
    Awesome guide. I skimmed through most.
    I would read this thread not in a way to get info beforehand but rather a reference thread to get all my questions answered as I get to know more about mechanical keyboards.

    So far most my basic questions got answered. Thank you.

    EDIT :
    @OP
    Minor mistake

    This question
    Quote
    What are the different keycap material types?
    Leads to
    Quote
    Is there a glossary for common abbreviations?

    And the FAQ does not answer the material type question ever.

    But this might: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vmod on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:56:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 06:02:26
    Quote from: vmod on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:53:30

    EDIT :
    @OP
    Minor mistake

    This question
    Quote
    What are the different keycap material types?
    Leads to
    Quote
    Is there a glossary for common abbreviations?

    And the FAQ does not answer the material type question ever.

    But this might: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0

    Yes it does but one needs to dig in and read the whole glossary which has abbreviation for everything including the material.
    If that was the point of redirect, then well the glossary vaguely answers every question and defeats the purpose of this mega FAQ being so dense.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:58:40
    Quote from: vmod on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:56:51
    Yes it does but one needs to dig in and read the whole glossary which has abbreviation for everything including the material.

    If that was the point of redirect, then well the glossary vaguely answers every question and defeats the purpose of this mega FAQ being so dense.

    I'm sorry, I'm not following your post. You asked for a glossary and I provided a link to one. Are you suggesting the glossary isn't up to your standards and you'd like more information about something?

    If you're suggesting that the glossary doesn't cover keycap materials very well, perhaps this link will help you (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keycap_construction). I envision this thread as a way to get a quick answer about a question you have and to get your started on your hunt for info. Not a comprehensive FAQ on everything keyboard related like the DT wiki is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vmod on Thu, 29 January 2015, 08:11:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:58:40
    Quote from: vmod on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:56:51
    Yes it does but one needs to dig in and read the whole glossary which has abbreviation for everything including the material.

    If that was the point of redirect, then well the glossary vaguely answers every question and defeats the purpose of this mega FAQ being so dense.

    I'm sorry, I'm not following your post. You asked for a glossary and I provided a link to one. Are you suggesting the glossary isn't up to your standards and you'd like more information about something?
    Oh no.... I am saying when we click on the question for keycap materials, we instead get directed to the question of glossary. Get it?
    Thats the minor mistake I am trying to indicate. If you want people to read the glossary when they click for keycap material question then I think when we click on it, there should be an answer saying we should read the glossary to get the answer for material type.
    I hope that makes my point clear.
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 08:16:32
    Quote from: vmod on Thu, 29 January 2015, 08:11:56
    Oh no.... I am saying when we click on the question for keycap materials, we instead get directed to the question of glossary. Get it?

    Ah thanks for pointing that out. I'll fix that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: baslo on Thu, 29 January 2015, 09:23:31
    Hey guys, which one should i get as a first mechanical keyboard  :thumb:

    CM Storm QuickFire Rapid I
    Ducky Shine 3 TKL

    both with MX Browns !

    Can´t decide :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 09:26:50
    Quote from: baslo on Thu, 29 January 2015, 09:23:31
    Hey guys, which one should i get as a first mechanical keyboard  :thumb:

    CM Storm QuickFire Rapid I
    Ducky Shine 3 TKL

    both with MX Browns !

    Can´t decide :(

    What exactly are you looking for in a keyboard? You like backlighting? Do the stabilizers matter to you? Keycaps? PCB quality?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: baslo on Thu, 29 January 2015, 09:30:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 09:26:50
    Quote from: baslo on Thu, 29 January 2015, 09:23:31
    Hey guys, which one should i get as a first mechanical keyboard  :thumb:

    CM Storm QuickFire Rapid I
    Ducky Shine 3 TKL

    both with MX Browns !

    Can´t decide :(

    What exactly are you looking for in a keyboard? You like backlighting? Do the stabilizers matter to you? Keycaps? PCB quality?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68086.0  :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oledome on Thu, 29 January 2015, 14:09:53
    Say you bought a keyboard just for its keycaps to go on another, what would you do with the one you just bought?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: danielucf on Thu, 29 January 2015, 14:12:17
    So I'm trying to update the firmware on a Leeku 1800 board. I think I have the latest firmware and the bootload program.

    So with an update file, what do I actually type to flash the firmware? I have the command prompt open and when I run bootloadhid.exe by itself I only get "usage: bootloadhid.exe [-r] [<intel-hexfile>]" so I imagine I need to tell it the hex file, but I'm unsure how exactly to do that.

    I did one attempt where I typed "bootloadhid.exe -r main_140611.hex" and it just told me the specified device was not found.

    I'm using the board via USB if that is any help, and I don't want to do something bad that might render the board useless.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 14:15:09
    Quote from: oledome on Thu, 29 January 2015, 14:09:53
    Say you bought a keyboard just for its keycaps to go on another, what would you do with the one you just bought?

    Do you want the second board?

    Yes = Keep it
    No = Sell it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: litesung on Thu, 29 January 2015, 15:19:52
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 29 January 2015, 16:00:58
    Does Unicomp have tooling to make single unit one piece keys?

    Also, has anyone done a GB with them for a few custom legends?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 18:13:47
    Quote from: danielucf on Thu, 29 January 2015, 14:12:17
    So I'm trying to update the firmware on a Leeku 1800 board. I think I have the latest firmware and the bootload program.

    So with an update file, what do I actually type to flash the firmware? I have the command prompt open and when I run bootloadhid.exe by itself I only get "usage: bootloadhid.exe [-r] [<intel-hexfile>]" so I imagine I need to tell it the hex file, but I'm unsure how exactly to do that.

    I did one attempt where I typed "bootloadhid.exe -r main_140611.hex" and it just told me the specified device was not found.

    I'm using the board via USB if that is any help, and I don't want to do something bad that might render the board useless.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Does this link help at all? http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/data/7034142

    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 29 January 2015, 16:00:58
    1) Does Unicomp have tooling to make single unit one piece keys?

    2) Also, has anyone done a GB with them for a few custom legends?

    1) I think so? I've gotten 1 piece caps from them before

    2) Yes. Those Geekhack caps and the media caps (pause, forward, play, etc) were from mkawa's work with them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 29 January 2015, 18:58:54
    Does anyone have a top right acrylic ergodox file I can use to get cut with acrylic? I found one off of GitHub since the ergodox.org one is broken, but that file is 3/4 off screen and I can't zoom out further. I am a noob, so any help is appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 January 2015, 19:23:43
    Quote from: litesung on Thu, 29 January 2015, 15:19:52
    Does anyone have a picture of imgur gallery of SA row 3 or DSA profile caps on a keyboard with an artisan keycap (HKP, CC, BB, etc) on the escape key?  I'm trying to get a reference or idea on what 1976/Evergreen would look like on a Leopold FC660M with a CC or BB on the escape key.

    Thanks!

    This is the best I can do.

    (http://i.imgur.com/je9faP8.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/uCHg0Tg.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: danielucf on Fri, 30 January 2015, 14:33:49
    Just built my 4th or 5th ErgoDox for someone else and am not getting any functionality out of the keyboard (hitting keys does not yield any input)

    Potentially helpful information:
    I used the through hole diodes how I normally do when I build and ErgoDox, soldered them onto the bottom side of the PCB like I have seen in a lot of Korean assembled keyboards where they snip off of the top part from the top of the PCB.
    Black line side of the diode aligned with the square pad.
    I get an Auto Mode Disabled error with the firmware.eep in automatic. Maybe this is the culprit and it isn't copying the firmware correctly?
    The teensy LED no longer lights up at all no matter what when plugging it in or pushing the button.
    I might have sent the hex file over before the .eep on accident the first time I was trying to flash the firmware.

    Edit - I tried to continuity test my diodes and they don't work. Even when not soldered on the board. Is it possible they are bad or more likely I'm doing my continuity test wrong?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: litesung on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:27:01
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:48:36
    Is there anywhere to go to buy old group buys besides classifieds and /r/mechmarket? I'm poking around for a Nuclear Data but I can't post on classifieds 'cause my account isn't 60 days old yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:53:13
    Quote from: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:48:36
    Is there anywhere to go to buy old group buys besides classifieds and /r/mechmarket? I'm poking around for a Nuclear Data but I can't post on classifieds 'cause my account isn't 60 days old yet.

    No, that's about it. You could always go to the group buy thread, assuming it's not locked, and post in there that you're willing to buy if anyone is selling. It's allowed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:53:57
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:53:13
    Quote from: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:48:36
    Is there anywhere to go to buy old group buys besides classifieds and /r/mechmarket? I'm poking around for a Nuclear Data but I can't post on classifieds 'cause my account isn't 60 days old yet.

    No, that's about it. You could always go to the group buy thread, assuming it's not locked, and post in there that you're willing to buy if anyone is selling. It's allowed.
    Even if it's however old? I really want a nuclear data but I doubt that people would want me posting in that thread tbh.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:55:00
    Quote from: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:53:57
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:53:13
    Quote from: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:48:36
    Is there anywhere to go to buy old group buys besides classifieds and /r/mechmarket? I'm poking around for a Nuclear Data but I can't post on classifieds 'cause my account isn't 60 days old yet.

    No, that's about it. You could always go to the group buy thread, assuming it's not locked, and post in there that you're willing to buy if anyone is selling. It's allowed.
    Even if it's however old? I really want a nuclear data but I doubt that people would want me posting in that thread tbh.

    Yeah, there's no rule against necros. And the thread is usually left open, so that people can post after the buy about shipping issues, wrong keys, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:57:00
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:55:00
    Quote from: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:53:57
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:53:13
    Quote from: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:48:36
    Is there anywhere to go to buy old group buys besides classifieds and /r/mechmarket? I'm poking around for a Nuclear Data but I can't post on classifieds 'cause my account isn't 60 days old yet.

    No, that's about it. You could always go to the group buy thread, assuming it's not locked, and post in there that you're willing to buy if anyone is selling. It's allowed.
    Even if it's however old? I really want a nuclear data but I doubt that people would want me posting in that thread tbh.

    Yeah, there's no rule against necros. And the thread is usually left open, so that people can post after the buy about shipping issues, wrong keys, etc.
    Fair enough, I'm off to go bother some people then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:13:21
    Anywhere to buy double shot PBT sets right now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:54:03
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:13:21
    Anywhere to buy double shot PBT sets right now?

    http://www.mechkb.com/vortex-double-shot-pbt-104-key-cap-set
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vortex-Orange-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099851498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ce9fe2ea
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1008
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=769
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:59:42
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:54:03
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:13:21
    Anywhere to buy double shot PBT sets right now?

    http://www.mechkb.com/vortex-double-shot-pbt-104-key-cap-set
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vortex-Orange-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099851498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ce9fe2ea
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1008
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=769

    I was going to say I hate the Vortex font, but the last two look like they redid the font to be less eye-gouging. Hmmm. No GMK sets though?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sun, 01 February 2015, 03:39:30
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:59:42
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:54:03
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:13:21
    Anywhere to buy double shot PBT sets right now?

    http://www.mechkb.com/vortex-double-shot-pbt-104-key-cap-set (http://www.mechkb.com/vortex-double-shot-pbt-104-key-cap-set)
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vortex-Orange-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099851498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ce9fe2ea (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vortex-Orange-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099851498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ce9fe2ea)
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1008 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1008)
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=769 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=769)

    I was going to say I hate the Vortex font, but the last two look like they redid the font to be less eye-gouging. Hmmm. No GMK sets though?


    Isnt GMK only abs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 01 February 2015, 07:58:14
    Quote from: byker on Sun, 01 February 2015, 03:39:30
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:59:42
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:54:03
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 01 February 2015, 02:13:21
    Anywhere to buy double shot PBT sets right now?

    http://www.mechkb.com/vortex-double-shot-pbt-104-key-cap-set (http://www.mechkb.com/vortex-double-shot-pbt-104-key-cap-set)
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vortex-Orange-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099851498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ce9fe2ea (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vortex-Orange-Double-Shot-Thick-PBT-104-Keyset-Cherry-MX-Keycaps-/231099851498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ce9fe2ea)
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1008 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1008)
    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=769 (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=769)

    I was going to say I hate the Vortex font, but the last two look like they redid the font to be less eye-gouging. Hmmm. No GMK sets though?


    Isnt GMK only abs?
    Yes :facepalm:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Sun, 01 February 2015, 11:22:47
    Just wondering, does anyone know the mass of a GMK escape key? Approximate mass is fine, I just don't own a scale that is super precise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 February 2015, 13:11:20
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Sun, 01 February 2015, 11:22:47
    Just wondering, does anyone know the mass of a GMK escape key? Approximate mass is fine, I just don't own a scale that is super precise.

    mass like weight or mass like actual mass
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 01 February 2015, 13:32:58
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 01 February 2015, 13:11:20
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Sun, 01 February 2015, 11:22:47
    Just wondering, does anyone know the mass of a GMK escape key? Approximate mass is fine, I just don't own a scale that is super precise.

    mass like weight or mass like actual mass

    Mass is mass.  Weight is the measure of the amount of effect Earths gravity has on an object, whereas mass is the amount of actual stuff is in an object.  They are used interchangeably a lot of times but, technically they are not the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 February 2015, 16:31:10
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Sun, 01 February 2015, 11:22:47
    Just wondering, does anyone know the mass of a GMK escape key? Approximate mass is fine, I just don't own a scale that is super precise.

    My cheapo scale measures 1g but it's not very accurate at all. I'd wait for someone with a better scale to try it :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Sun, 01 February 2015, 16:33:18
    Maybe a different question: does anyone know the volume of a gmk escape key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ouro on Sun, 01 February 2015, 19:38:47
    Looking to order components to assemble my very own step before endgame 60% board.

    My layout will be winkeyless. Thinking stickered MX Green switches, blue in switch LEDs, purpleish pink leds for the underglow, clear plate so that PCB is visible from the top. Will ultimately end up with the PBT dye sub miami/odessa set from Ivan's group buy.

    Do I have everything I would need (minus the switches) to begin assembling the board?
    (http://i.imgur.com/ydEZeBP.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Sun, 01 February 2015, 20:49:07
    Quote from: Ouro on Sun, 01 February 2015, 19:38:47
    Looking to order components to assemble my very own step before endgame 60% board.

    My layout will be winkeyless. Thinking stickered MX Green switches, blue in switch LEDs, purpleish pink leds for the underglow, clear plate so that PCB is visible from the top. Will ultimately end up with the PBT dye sub miami/odessa set from Ivan's group buy.

    Do I have everything I would need (minus the switches) to begin assembling the board?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ydEZeBP.png)


    That looks right to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 February 2015, 20:49:35
    Quote from: Ouro on Sun, 01 February 2015, 19:38:47
    Looking to order components to assemble my very own step before endgame 60% board.

    My layout will be winkeyless. Thinking stickered MX Green switches, blue in switch LEDs, purpleish pink leds for the underglow, clear plate so that PCB is visible from the top. Will ultimately end up with the PBT dye sub miami/odessa set from Ivan's group buy.

    Do I have everything I would need (minus the switches) to begin assembling the board?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ydEZeBP.png)

    Just missing a USB cable :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 01 February 2015, 23:12:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 February 2015, 20:49:35
    Quote from: Ouro on Sun, 01 February 2015, 19:38:47
    Looking to order components to assemble my very own step before endgame 60% board.

    My layout will be winkeyless. Thinking stickered MX Green switches, blue in switch LEDs, purpleish pink leds for the underglow, clear plate so that PCB is visible from the top. Will ultimately end up with the PBT dye sub miami/odessa set from Ivan's group buy.

    Do I have everything I would need (minus the switches) to begin assembling the board?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ydEZeBP.png)

    Just missing a USB cable :)

    You can get that at about any department store.  If you just need something, for mini get a PS3 charging cord, a teensy based keyboard functions 100% with a 10 foot cord.  For micro, just a cell phone charging cord.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Sun, 01 February 2015, 23:35:55
    For a matrix layout, does the regular 7x Cherry spacebar have the stems where a 1 by 7 line of switches would have at least 2 stems? So if I desoldered 5 out of seven switches next to each other, could I put a 7x cherry spacebar on the two switches remaining.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 February 2015, 09:47:20
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 February 2015, 23:12:16
    You can get that at about any department store.  If you just need something, for mini get a PS3 charging cord, a teensy based keyboard functions 100% with a 10 foot cord.  For micro, just a cell phone charging cord.

    I find most department stores are overpriced with their cables. Monoprice.com is where it's at.

    Quote from: MGH on Sun, 01 February 2015, 23:35:55
    For a matrix layout, does the regular 7x Cherry spacebar have the stems where a 1 by 7 line of switches would have at least 2 stems? So if I desoldered 5 out of seven switches next to each other, could I put a 7x cherry spacebar on the two switches remaining.

    Maybe you could do this? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57352.msg1299868#msg1299868). I've never tried it and I wouldn't be able to test until I'm at home. But the pictures in that post lead me to believe that it would work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ouro on Mon, 02 February 2015, 09:59:19

    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 February 2015, 23:12:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 February 2015, 20:49:35
    Just missing a USB cable :)

    You can get that at about any department store.  If you just need something, for mini get a PS3 charging cord, a teensy based keyboard functions 100% with a 10 foot cord.  For micro, just a cell phone charging cord.

    I'll probably make one myself or just order one from the makers in our community.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 February 2015, 10:02:57
    Quote from: MGH on Sun, 01 February 2015, 23:35:55
    For a matrix layout, does the regular 7x Cherry spacebar have the stems where a 1 by 7 line of switches would have at least 2 stems? So if I desoldered 5 out of seven switches next to each other, could I put a 7x cherry spacebar on the two switches remaining.

    You would need three switches, one in the center for the switch stem, and two on the outsides for the stabilizer stems. The stabilizer stems of a 7u spacebar align perfectly with the switch centers 3u out from the center.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 02 February 2015, 10:14:42
    Concerning elitekeyboards gmk caps and gmk rgby groupbuy caps colors.  Arent the yellows the same, the  green is lime with ek and dark green in gb.  I use this chart
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/GMK_colours
    any better chart available with pictures? so according to this chart ek green is AE, gb green is N7.  The reds are the same.  the gb blue is v4, and the ek blue is n5.  Is this all correct?  Also, when did ek get those caps?  There was no group buy which ran is it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 February 2015, 10:36:40
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 02 February 2015, 10:14:42
    1) Concerning elitekeyboards gmk caps and gmk rgby groupbuy caps colors.  Arent the yellows the same, the  green is lime with ek and dark green in gb.  I use this chart
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/GMK_colours 

    so according to this chart ek green is AE, gb green is N7.  The reds are the same.  the gb blue is v4, and the ek blue is n5.  Is this all correct? 
    2) any better chart available with pictures?
    3) Also, when did ek get those caps?  There was no group buy which ran is it?

    1) I believe you're analysis is correct.

    2) Here's some pictures of the GMK color samples I could find. AFAIK, there's not a very comprehensive shot like the SP ABS (https://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/sets/72157634628432952/) or PBT (https://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/sets/72157634820264764/) shots that mashby loaded.

    (http://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
    From Ivan (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50591.msg1105794#msg1105794)

    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7325/12354060433_3a66190f3b_o.jpg)
    From Dubsgalore (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54039.msg1219572#msg1219572)

    (http://i.imgur.com/qe3qL7G.png)
    Believe it's from Sherry (http://i.imgur.com/qe3qL7G.png)

    (http://i.imgur.com/rMhlf.jpg)
    Believe it's from BroadMonkey? (http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/interest-check-for-gmk-doubleshots-t4553-180.html#p94890)

    3) EK had them made for their store/business. There was no GB.


    Edit: billnye was nice enough to send me this picture from GMK

    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/02/0b29f5f0299b4e0bdaef9bc2df893869.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: billnye on Mon, 02 February 2015, 11:02:43
    good situation
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 02 February 2015, 14:17:21
    Is there a listing, glossary, or otherwise compilation of popular Korean boards around? I'm looking to plan a build sometime this year and am having trouble wrapping my mind around the options available. Duck, LZ, KMAC, GON, OTD, kbdmania :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 February 2015, 14:21:24
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 02 February 2015, 14:17:21
    Is there a listing, glossary, or otherwise compilation of popular Korean boards around? I'm looking to plan a build sometime this year and am having trouble wrapping my mind around the options available. Duck, LZ, KMAC, GON, OTD, kbdmania :confused:

    Post your Korean keyboard thread is good. Sherryton used to have a thread where he covered a lot of the boards but I can't find it now.

    OTD and KBDmania are Korean community forums. Duck, GON, LZ are builders of their eponymous keyboards. KMAC (Korean Mania Attic Attack) is a board from the OTD community.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:01:18
    So I finished taking off my keycaps b/c I figured it was time for a cleaning (got it last august, so 5 months give or take). I know I shouldn't use Alcohol since my caps are UV-Printed but are Dishwasher Fluid/Denture tabs still viable? also I CAN drip some alcohol into one of my sticky switches, after something got spilled in them, right? Just make sure it's clear before I put the caps back.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:03:26
    Quote from: hking0036 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:01:18
    So I finished taking off my keycaps b/c I figured it was time for a cleaning (got it last august, so 5 months give or take). I know I shouldn't use Alcohol since my caps are UV-Printed but are Dishwasher Fluid/Denture tabs still viable? also I CAN drip some alcohol into one of my sticky switches, after something got spilled in them, right? Just make sure it's clear before I put the caps back.

    Yes, neither dishwashing liquid nor denture tabs should harm the UV coated pad print on your caps.

    And yes, as long as it's 91% alcohol, you should be fine. When you get brave, you can desolder the switch, open it, and clean it properly. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:04:13
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:03:26
    Quote from: hking0036 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:01:18
    So I finished taking off my keycaps b/c I figured it was time for a cleaning (got it last august, so 5 months give or take). I know I shouldn't use Alcohol since my caps are UV-Printed but are Dishwasher Fluid/Denture tabs still viable? also I CAN drip some alcohol into one of my sticky switches, after something got spilled in them, right? Just make sure it's clear before I put the caps back.

    Yes, neither dishwashing liquid nor denture tabs should harm the UV coated pad print on your caps.

    And yes, as long as it's 91% alcohol, you should be fine. When you get brave, you can desolder the switch, open it, and clean it properly. :)
    lol, I'm not brave enough for that yet, I just figured out how to get keys off with stabs under. I need to get the little inserts out and then go to town. Also I was thinking of switching to dvorak when I put it back on just for fun. worth it? I kinda want to try it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:08:10
    Quote from: hking0036 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:04:13
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:03:26
    Quote from: hking0036 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:01:18
    So I finished taking off my keycaps b/c I figured it was time for a cleaning (got it last august, so 5 months give or take). I know I shouldn't use Alcohol since my caps are UV-Printed but are Dishwasher Fluid/Denture tabs still viable? also I CAN drip some alcohol into one of my sticky switches, after something got spilled in them, right? Just make sure it's clear before I put the caps back.

    Yes, neither dishwashing liquid nor denture tabs should harm the UV coated pad print on your caps.

    And yes, as long as it's 91% alcohol, you should be fine. When you get brave, you can desolder the switch, open it, and clean it properly. :)
    lol, I'm not brave enough for that yet, I just figured out how to get keys off with stabs under. I need to get the little inserts out and then go to town. Also I was thinking of switching to dvorak when I put it back on just for fun. worth it? I kinda want to try it.

    If your caps are anything but a flat profile, or buckling springs, it will look really goofy and feel even worse.

    That being said, just put them back in the right spot, bring up a picture of the layout, and switch your keyboard to it in the OS settings.  For 8.1, you can setup a hot key to swap keyboard layouts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:18:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:08:10
    Quote from: hking0036 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:04:13
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:03:26
    Quote from: hking0036 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:01:18
    So I finished taking off my keycaps b/c I figured it was time for a cleaning (got it last august, so 5 months give or take). I know I shouldn't use Alcohol since my caps are UV-Printed but are Dishwasher Fluid/Denture tabs still viable? also I CAN drip some alcohol into one of my sticky switches, after something got spilled in them, right? Just make sure it's clear before I put the caps back.

    Yes, neither dishwashing liquid nor denture tabs should harm the UV coated pad print on your caps.

    And yes, as long as it's 91% alcohol, you should be fine. When you get brave, you can desolder the switch, open it, and clean it properly. :)
    lol, I'm not brave enough for that yet, I just figured out how to get keys off with stabs under. I need to get the little inserts out and then go to town. Also I was thinking of switching to dvorak when I put it back on just for fun. worth it? I kinda want to try it.

    If your caps are anything but a flat profile, or buckling springs, it will look really goofy and feel even worse.

    That being said, just put them back in the right spot, bring up a picture of the layout, and switch your keyboard to it in the OS settings.  For 8.1, you can setup a hot key to swap keyboard layouts.
    I guess not then :p It just seemed like a fun thing to try, oh well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 02 February 2015, 18:17:45
    Wheres the thread that shows how to turn off new replies posted? I just got boned by it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 02 February 2015, 18:22:57
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 02 February 2015, 18:17:45
    Wheres the thread that shows how to turn off new replies posted? I just got boned by it.

    Go to: Profile summery > Look and Layout under modify profile tab > then there's a check box labeled "Don't warn on new replies made while posting." > then "change profile" button
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 02 February 2015, 18:23:47
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 02 February 2015, 18:22:57
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 02 February 2015, 18:17:45
    Wheres the thread that shows how to turn off new replies posted? I just got boned by it.

    Go to: Profile summery > Look and Layout under modify profile tab > then there's a check box labeled "Don't warn on new replies made while posting." > then "change profile" button
    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:19:00
    Has anyone done a video comparison between two identical F keyboards, one with and one without floss mod?

    If so link please?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:37:58
    what adapter do i need to plug my hhkb to my ipad?

    is it just the camera usb adapter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:39:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:19:00
    Has anyone done a video comparison between two identical F keyboards, one with and one without floss mod?

    If so link please?



    Shoutouts to PunksDead
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:41:47
    aren't F's completely different than M's?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:43:23
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:41:47
    aren't F's completely different than M's?

    Rofl yeah. You're totally right and I'm an idiot. Let me try this again.

    Edit: I can't find anything comparing two Fs so hopefully that video of the SSK gives you enough of an idea. Also I found this video from Salcan (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9761.msg178659#msg178659)


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:43:28
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:37:58
    what adapter do i need to plug my hhkb to my ipad?

    is it just the camera usb adapter?


    OTG cable, not sure if it is the camera usb adapter. You can get otg cables for like $4 on amazon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:45:06
    If you want something sleeker, I think pexon is making all in one cables for keyboards on tablets now? A bit pricer though I imagine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:46:28
    Quote from: byker on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:45:06
    If you want something sleeker, I think pexon is making all in one cables for keyboards on tablets now? A bit pricer though I imagine.

    i'll ask tj, since he's a state away.

    dont think i've seen lightning OTG cables tho

    by the looks of it, yeah, it's just a cable adapter. and everything amazon has looks like it has terribad reviews.

    anyway, thanks for the answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:46:41
    Quote from: byker on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:43:28
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:37:58
    what adapter do i need to plug my hhkb to my ipad?

    is it just the camera usb adapter?


    OTG cable, not sure if it is the camera usb adapter. You can get otg cables for like $4 on amazon

    iPad is a little more complicated because it doesn't have standard USB ports. The camera adapter kit should work just fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:47:55
    Ooops, sorry demik, forgot about lightening. I was thinking android/minusb devices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:49:25
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:46:41
    Quote from: byker on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:43:28
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:37:58
    what adapter do i need to plug my hhkb to my ipad?

    is it just the camera usb adapter?


    OTG cable, not sure if it is the camera usb adapter. You can get otg cables for like $4 on amazon

    iPad is a little more complicated because it doesn't have standard USB ports. The camera adapter kit should work just fine.

    yeah, i figured.

    Quote from: byker on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:47:55
    Ooops, sorry demik, forgot about lightening. I was thinking android/minusb devices.

    no problem, i already own an OTG cable from tj.. just no android tablet :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:59:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:43:23
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:41:47
    aren't F's completely different than M's?

    Rofl yeah. You're totally right and I'm an idiot. Let me try this again.

    Edit: I can't find anything comparing two Fs so hopefully that video of the SSK gives you enough of an idea. Also I found this video from Salcan (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9761.msg178659#msg178659)



    Thanks CPT.  I am planning on doing the floss mod to at least my XT, probably going to do the AT as well when I get it mounted into the new keyboard tray.  I do keep hearing that the floss mod has a more profound effect on F's than it does on M's and was curious to an idea on what to expect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 20:00:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 February 2015, 10:36:40
    3) EK had them made for their store/business. There was no GB.

    Small correction in case anyone cares-- I believe the caps came from Leopold, who dealt directly with GMK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 02 February 2015, 21:18:49
    I am following this guide for when I solder in LEDs for my bface, and right now I am picking up some more LEDs, and I came upon a question that I couldn't find googling, maybe my search was poorly worded, but I am using 820 ohm resistors for the pink LEDs, and I would like to have caps lock as a different color, maybe green or red, or even blue. Well, I hade them pre-soldered and gorgot to ask for the caps lock resistor soldered at a different ohm rating, and I was wondering what would happen if I put a red led in with a 820  ohm resistor?

    – 820 Ohm : generally used for white/pink LED
    – 910 Ohm : generally used for blue/green LED
    – 1300 Ohm : generally used for red/yellow/orange LED
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 February 2015, 05:53:40
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 02 February 2015, 21:18:49
    I am following this guide for when I solder in LEDs for my bface, and right now I am picking up some more LEDs, and I came upon a question that I couldn't find googling, maybe my search was poorly worded, but I am using 820 ohm resistors for the pink LEDs, and I would like to have caps lock as a different color, maybe green or red, or even blue. Well, I hade them pre-soldered and gorgot to ask for the caps lock resistor soldered at a different ohm rating, and I was wondering what would happen if I put a red led in with a 820  ohm resistor?

    – 820 Ohm : generally used for white/pink LED
    – 910 Ohm : generally used for blue/green LED
    – 1300 Ohm : generally used for red/yellow/orange LED

    I think worst case scenario is that the LED is just dim. Plug it in and find out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 February 2015, 06:05:58

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 February 2015, 05:53:40
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 02 February 2015, 21:18:49
    I am following this guide for when I solder in LEDs for my bface, and right now I am picking up some more LEDs, and I came upon a question that I couldn't find googling, maybe my search was poorly worded, but I am using 820 ohm resistors for the pink LEDs, and I would like to have caps lock as a different color, maybe green or red, or even blue. Well, I hade them pre-soldered and gorgot to ask for the caps lock resistor soldered at a different ohm rating, and I was wondering what would happen if I put a red led in with a 820  ohm resistor?

    – 820 Ohm : generally used for white/pink LED
    – 910 Ohm : generally used for blue/green LED
    – 1300 Ohm : generally used for red/yellow/orange LED

    I think worst case scenario is that the LED is just dim. Plug it in and find out?
    That's what I thought would happen, and it's not here yet, or else I would have tried it with a button cell.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 February 2015, 06:06:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Tue, 03 February 2015, 06:05:58
    That's what I thought would happen, and it's not here yet, or else I would have tried it with a button cell.

    Ah ok. Let us know what happens when you get it in hand :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 February 2015, 06:08:10

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 February 2015, 06:06:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Tue, 03 February 2015, 06:05:58
    That's what I thought would happen, and it's not here yet, or else I would have tried it with a button cell.

    Ah ok. Let us know what happens when you get it in hand :).
    I need to order the red LEDs any way, so I might buy a throughole resistor for all three of those ratings and test.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Tue, 03 February 2015, 11:24:47
    Where should I post to find someone (preferably in Europe) who can assemble my Duck Octagon for me when it comes in a few weeks? I was going to get margo to do it but it seems he isn't taking any more builds for the foreseeable future :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 February 2015, 11:33:04
    Signature is located in Sweden and would probably be willing to do it for you, going by his forum posts and our short convo. i really want to do it myself as well, but i'm getting cold feet thinking about having to choose a decent solder kit, and the many possible things that can go wrong during the process (zero prior experience here)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 February 2015, 12:03:43
    Quote from: cannonking on Tue, 03 February 2015, 11:24:47
    Where should I post to find someone (preferably in Europe) who can assemble my Duck Octagon for me when it comes in a few weeks? I was going to get margo to do it but it seems he isn't taking any more builds for the foreseeable future :(.

    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 February 2015, 11:33:04
    Signature is located in Sweden and would probably be willing to do it for you, going by his forum posts and our short convo. i really want to do it myself as well, but i'm getting cold feet thinking about having to choose a decent solder kit, and the many possible things that can go wrong during the process (zero prior experience here)

    Maybe just make a thread in keyboards? I don't know if Signature does assembly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 03 February 2015, 16:58:50
    Is there a suggested type or brand of floss for floss modding an F?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 03 February 2015, 17:15:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 03 February 2015, 16:58:50
    Is there a suggested type or brand of floss for floss modding an F?

    I use Oral-B "super" floss, you want the fluffy part in the middle.

    (http://i.imgur.com/1CDzG.jpg)

    I recommend putting the floss into the spring, then cutting off the top at the right level. Shorter floss does less sound deadening, perhaps feels incrementally lighter, but it has to be well over the midpoint, because that is where the spring buckles!

    You can get about half a dozen cuts out of each length of floss.

    (http://i.imgur.com/dE07J.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 February 2015, 17:18:31
    Paging skcheng...

    We need some floss over here, stat! :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:20:34
    Can anyone confirm whether unicomp includes the spacebar wires with their spacebars they sell?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 03 February 2015, 19:02:29
    I'm out of the loop, what's with the "good situation" thing? my only guess is from the chinese guy's classified ad talking about the condition of his items.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: billnye on Tue, 03 February 2015, 19:07:06
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Tue, 03 February 2015, 19:02:29
    I'm out of the loop, what's with the "good situation" thing? my only guess is from the chinese guy's classified ad talking about the condition of his items.
    good situation confirmed
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Michael on Tue, 03 February 2015, 19:07:15
    good situation
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 February 2015, 19:10:09
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Tue, 03 February 2015, 19:02:29
    I'm out of the loop, what's with the "good situation" thing? my only guess is from the chinese guy's classified ad talking about the condition of his items.
    gucci situation
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:33:48
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:20:34
    Can anyone confirm whether unicomp includes the spacebar wires with their spacebars they sell?

    Yes they include a stabilizer wire (1). Source: I just bought a spacebar from them last week.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:34:30
    Quote from: intelli78 on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:33:48
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:20:34
    Can anyone confirm whether unicomp includes the spacebar wires with their spacebars they sell?

    Yes they include a stabilizer wire (1). Source: I just bought a spacebar from them last week.
    Perfect, thanks!  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:28:08
    Anyone know if there is anywhere to look at what fonts and legends are available for use via SP with double shots and dyesub?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:02:15
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:28:08
    Anyone know if there is anywhere to look at what fonts and legends are available for use via SP with double shots and dyesub?
    For dyesub, I believe you just send them an svg, and they use that.

    Here is what is available in double shot, although you have to pay extra for each legend you use (per keycap), and I think that fee ranges from $25/ea to $45/ea.

    (http://i.imgur.com/lww4ATH.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Wed, 04 February 2015, 00:30:21
    Is there Alps 60% PCB fits for AEK layout? If it is compatible to poker case dimension it'd be appreciated.

    I'm working on Alps 60% from AEK or AEK II cut mounting plate.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 February 2015, 07:49:01
    Quote from: hasu on Wed, 04 February 2015, 00:30:21
    Is there Alps 60% PCB fits for AEK layout? If it is compatible to poker case dimension it'd be appreciated.

    I'm working on Alps 60% from AEK or AEK II cut mounting plate.

    Thanks.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67815.0

    I think Ron's new 60% PCB should work.

    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Tue, 03 February 2015, 19:02:29
    I'm out of the loop, what's with the "good situation" thing? my only guess is from the chinese guy's classified ad talking about the condition of his items.

    You answered your own question :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 04 February 2015, 08:42:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 February 2015, 07:49:01
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Tue, 03 February 2015, 19:02:29
    I'm out of the loop, what's with the "good situation" thing? my only guess is from the chinese guy's classified ad talking about the condition of his items.

    You answered your own question :))

    Not sure why it didn't click while typing it, i think i just thought, "It can't be this simple"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Thu, 05 February 2015, 01:22:02
    Does anyone remember how much the Bro Caps Stumps went for on the New Years sale? It was one price for a random cap. I got invoiced for several other caps from a previous sale, so I cannot see the specific price, but maybe someone who got only the random cap can let me know? Cheers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Thu, 05 February 2015, 03:57:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 February 2015, 07:49:01
    Quote from: hasu on Wed, 04 February 2015, 00:30:21
    Is there Alps 60% PCB fits for AEK layout? If it is compatible to poker case dimension it'd be appreciated.

    I'm working on Alps 60% from AEK or AEK II cut mounting plate.

    Thanks.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67815.0

    I think Ron's new 60% PCB should work.

    Thanks. Interesting project, I'll watch and learn.

    AEK has pretty weird bottom row like; 1.5, 1.25, 1.5 space 1.5, 1.25, 1.5
    It seems I'll have to design my own PCB supports AEK layout and fits in Poker case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:33:57
    Are desko boards my or ml switches? I bought a board for the caps, and to my knowledge they are compatible with mx right,
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:51:19
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:33:57
    Are desko boards my or ml switches? I bought a board for the caps, and to my knowledge they are compatible with mx right,
    MY, and yeah
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:52:38
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:51:19
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:33:57
    Are desko boards my or ml switches? I bought a board for the caps, and to my knowledge they are compatible with mx right,
    MY, and yeah

    Aren't there MX Desko boards too though?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:52:44

    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:51:19
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:33:57
    Are desko boards my or ml switches? I bought a board for the caps, and to my knowledge they are compatible with mx right,
    MY, and yeah
    Thanks, now all I need is matching winkeys :-(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:53:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:52:38
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:51:19
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:33:57
    Are desko boards my or ml switches? I bought a board for the caps, and to my knowledge they are compatible with mx right,
    MY, and yeah

    Aren't there MX Desko boards too though?
    Desko may have made MX boards, but the ones with the BoW caps and dyesub mods are all MY
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:20:44
    Hi! Posting for a friend who asked me this question and I didn't know the answer despite googling.

    What are these two keys beside the spacebar? The keys with the looping icon. He bought this Century Black Pawn while visiting in Japan.

    http://www.century.co.jp/products/pc/img/ck-67cmb_08_big.gif
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:44:31
    Quote from: rainb1ood on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:20:44

    The keys with the looping icon.


    Those are the "circle jerk" keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:53:01
    Quote from: rainb1ood on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:20:44
    Hi! Posting for a friend who asked me this question and I didn't know the answer despite googling.

    What are these two keys beside the spacebar? The keys with the looping icon. He bought this Century Black Pawn while visiting in Japan.

    http://www.century.co.jp/products/pc/img/ck-67cmb_08_big.gif

    I believe it's so you can switch between the different Japanese character input types? But I'm not 100%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Thu, 05 February 2015, 17:41:10
    They are 無変換(muhenkan/no conversion) and 変換(henkan/conversion) key. Probaby they emit scan code 0x8a and 0x8b acording to USB spec, though I never have used JIS keyboard and I can't explain how to use them.

    Further reading
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_input_methods

    Quote from: rainb1ood on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:20:44
    Hi! Posting for a friend who asked me this question and I didn't know the answer despite googling.

    What are these two keys beside the spacebar? The keys with the looping icon. He bought this Century Black Pawn while visiting in Japan.

    http://www.century.co.jp/products/pc/img/ck-67cmb_08_big.gif
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 05 February 2015, 17:44:28
    Thank you hasu!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 05 February 2015, 18:58:14
    Quote from: rainb1ood on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:20:44
    Hi! Posting for a friend who asked me this question and I didn't know the answer despite googling.

    What are these two keys beside the spacebar? The keys with the looping icon. He bought this Century Black Pawn while visiting in Japan.

    http://www.century.co.jp/products/pc/img/ck-67cmb_08_big.gif

    The functions of those keys are depend on the keyboard, different keyboard have different function even though they are all jis layout.  In the jis layout keyboard that I have used in the past, the left one is used to input Hiragana, and the right one is used to transfer Hiragana into Kanji.  And they have no function while inputting English.  But the function really depends on the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 05 February 2015, 21:39:52
    So I have this AT I converted with an xwhatsit, and it is having a minor issue that doesn't prevent me from using it but doesn't feel right.  The swithes feel like there is boat loads of extra friction in them.  They are still smooth just very tight.  They still actuate, though I had one keystroke physically stick in the down position.  It is the entire board and they all feel the same and sound right.  Any ideas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 February 2015, 22:18:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 05 February 2015, 21:39:52
    So I have this AT I converted with an xwhatsit, and it is having a minor issue that doesn't prevent me from using it but doesn't feel right.  The swithes feel like there is boat loads of extra friction in them.  They are still smooth just very tight.  They still actuate, though I had one keystroke physically stick in the down position.  It is the entire board and they all feel the same and sound right.  Any ideas?
    Sounds like the plates are tightened down too much or they're not properly aligned. I had a similar issue when I rebuilt my 6019284 incorrectly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 05 February 2015, 22:45:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 February 2015, 22:18:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 05 February 2015, 21:39:52
    So I have this AT I converted with an xwhatsit, and it is having a minor issue that doesn't prevent me from using it but doesn't feel right.  The swithes feel like there is boat loads of extra friction in them.  They are still smooth just very tight.  They still actuate, though I had one keystroke physically stick in the down position.  It is the entire board and they all feel the same and sound right.  Any ideas?
    Sounds like the plates are tightened down too much or they're not properly aligned. I had a similar issue when I rebuilt my 6019284 incorrectly.

    Thanks, I will look into that.

    On this note, is there anywhere that is safe or ok to lube via krytox on an AT modded to ANSI with M caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 05 February 2015, 22:59:02
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 05 February 2015, 18:58:14
    Quote from: rainb1ood on Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:20:44
    Hi! Posting for a friend who asked me this question and I didn't know the answer despite googling.

    What are these two keys beside the spacebar? The keys with the looping icon. He bought this Century Black Pawn while visiting in Japan.

    http://www.century.co.jp/products/pc/img/ck-67cmb_08_big.gif

    The functions of those keys are depend on the keyboard, different keyboard have different function even though they are all jis layout.  In the jis layout keyboard that I have used in the past, the left one is used to input Hiragana, and the right one is used to transfer Hiragana into Kanji.  And they have no function while inputting English.  But the function really depends on the keyboard.
    Thank you for explaining :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 06 February 2015, 00:00:48
    Thanks CBA, worked like a champ, though a couple of the keys that are stabilized via inserts still feel a touch tight.  Is it safe to lube those?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:08:05
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 06 February 2015, 00:00:48
    Thanks CBA, worked like a champ, though a couple of the keys that are stabilized via inserts still feel a touch tight.  Is it safe to lube those?

    I'm not sure. On one hand, if people are grease modding their boards with no issue, I don't see what could hurt. On the other? I'd worry if you used Krytox, it would get into the PCB. Why don't you try it and find out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: flaming_june on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:27:51
    Will Ducky release a TKL version of the Ducky 4?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:29:56
    Quote from: flaming_june on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:27:51
    Will Ducky release a TKL version of the Ducky 4?

    That's a good question actually. I've heard nothing about a TKL version but I will ask them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: flaming_june on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:59:14
    Gracias

    If they release one this year that's available in NA

    (http://s.quickmeme.com/img/be/be73ebe93046aca825637eefdb3ff07ffc3cc2d9a7cbab061b122fa5ecc3e4a0.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 February 2015, 13:19:56
    Ducky peaked with the Shine 3.


    Not a question. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nai_Calus on Fri, 06 February 2015, 15:17:36
    Why does everyone seem to hate the Shine 4 so much?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 February 2015, 15:25:50
    Quote from: Nai_Calus on Fri, 06 February 2015, 15:17:36
    Why does everyone seem to hate the Shine 4 so much?

    That weird case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Fri, 06 February 2015, 15:50:14
    Removed by user.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dihedral on Fri, 06 February 2015, 15:52:19
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Fri, 06 February 2015, 15:50:14
    Anyone know of a place (or person) that fixes broken subwoofers. Such as 10-15" for a stereo system. Probably 15+ years old?

    i think this thread is on topic discussion only - try posting in off topic or other geeky stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Fri, 06 February 2015, 17:11:08
    Is HHKB lighter than a 60% with acrylic plate and case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 17:17:53
    Quote from: MGH on Fri, 06 February 2015, 17:11:08
    Is HHKB lighter than a 60% with acrylic plate and case?

    My GH60 Rev B PCB with switches installed and the acrylic case I have weighs 455g. An HHKB weighs 520g. (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Happy_Hacking_Keyboard). Of course, YMMV depending on the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MGH on Fri, 06 February 2015, 17:29:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 17:17:53
    Quote from: MGH on Fri, 06 February 2015, 17:11:08
    Is HHKB lighter than a 60% with acrylic plate and case?

    My GH60 Rev B PCB with switches installed and the acrylic case I have weighs 455g. An HHKB weighs 520g. (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Happy_Hacking_Keyboard). Of course, YMMV depending on the case.
    Thanks :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 06 February 2015, 19:18:16
    A friend asked me about a Memorex mx 1998, anyone know anything about it? A quick google brings up nothing. The board is white, has a metal plate on the back and looks like a membrane board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 February 2015, 19:20:26
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 06 February 2015, 19:18:16
    A friend asked me about a Memorex mx 1998, anyone know anything about it? A quick google brings up nothing. The board is white, has a metal plate on the back and looks like a membrane board.

    Could be a Memorex Telex keyboard with NMB Hi-Tek Space Invaders?

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Memorex_Telex_NMB_Hi-Tek
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 06 February 2015, 19:22:27
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 February 2015, 19:20:26
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 06 February 2015, 19:18:16
    A friend asked me about a Memorex mx 1998, anyone know anything about it? A quick google brings up nothing. The board is white, has a metal plate on the back and looks like a membrane board.

    Could be a Memorex Telex keyboard with NMB Hi-Tek Space Invaders?

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Memorex_Telex_NMB_Hi-Tek

    Thanks. I'll have the board in my hands in a few weeks so I'll know for sure then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 07:20:25
    I'm going to buy a Topre board. I like Greens and Clears a lot. Should I go 55g or 45g?

    I'm thinking Realforce rather than HHKB because the layout of the HHKB doesn't do anything for me/isn't useful enough to be worth moving to it.

    What are the big differences between 45 and 55?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:12:48
    Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 07:20:25
    I'm going to buy a Topre board. I like Greens and Clears a lot. Should I go 55g or 45g?

    I'm thinking Realforce rather than HHKB because the layout of the HHKB doesn't do anything for me/isn't useful enough to be worth moving to it.

    What are the big differences between 45 and 55?

    To me 55g is obviously heavier (but you can't compare heavy cherry to topre they are just different) and slightly more tactile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:31:00
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:12:48
    Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 07:20:25
    I'm going to buy a Topre board. I like Greens and Clears a lot. Should I go 55g or 45g?

    I'm thinking Realforce rather than HHKB because the layout of the HHKB doesn't do anything for me/isn't useful enough to be worth moving to it.

    What are the big differences between 45 and 55?

    To me 55g is obviously heavier (but you can't compare heavy cherry to topre they are just different) and slightly more tactile.

    OK, well I do love my tactile switches. Only thing is that the only 55g I can find are variable full size or ANSI TKL :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:33:59
    Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:31:00
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:12:48
    Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 07:20:25
    I'm going to buy a Topre board. I like Greens and Clears a lot. Should I go 55g or 45g?

    I'm thinking Realforce rather than HHKB because the layout of the HHKB doesn't do anything for me/isn't useful enough to be worth moving to it.

    What are the big differences between 45 and 55?

    To me 55g is obviously heavier (but you can't compare heavy cherry to topre they are just different) and slightly more tactile.

    OK, well I do love my tactile switches. Only thing is that the only 55g I can find are variable full size or ANSI TKL :(
    That's all that's currently available without buying multiple boards and swapping domes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:38:11
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:33:59
    That's all that's currently available without buying multiple boards and swapping domes.

    I see. What is up with the variable domes then? What's the weights? Is it just 45g on the mods and 55 on alphas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:41:01
    Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:38:11
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:33:59
    That's all that's currently available without buying multiple boards and swapping domes.

    I see. What is up with the variable domes then? What's the weights? Is it just 45g on the mods and 55 on alphas?
    I think the only 55g key in variable boards is escape. If you look on elitekeyboards website they have a key map I believe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:45:55
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:41:01
    Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:38:11
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 February 2015, 08:33:59
    That's all that's currently available without buying multiple boards and swapping domes.

    I see. What is up with the variable domes then? What's the weights? Is it just 45g on the mods and 55 on alphas?
    I think the only 55g key in variable boards is escape. If you look on elitekeyboards website they have a key map I believe.

    Ah. OK. Looks like I'm getting a 55g TKL than. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Sat, 07 February 2015, 21:27:39
    Where can I get a geekhack sticker for my keyboard/when are the [Ctrl]Alt stickers back
    pls I want to be e-thug
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 February 2015, 00:12:26
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sat, 07 February 2015, 21:27:39
    1) Where can I get a geekhack sticker for my keyboard
    2) when are the [Ctrl]Alt stickers back

    1) I haven't seen them in a long time. PM Shadovved. He might have some left. He made them.
    2) PM BunnyLake and ask?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 08 February 2015, 03:48:54
    Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 07 February 2015, 07:20:25
    I'm going to buy a Topre board. I like Greens and Clears a lot. Should I go 55g or 45g?

    I'm thinking Realforce rather than HHKB because the layout of the HHKB doesn't do anything for me/isn't useful enough to be worth moving to it.

    What are the big differences between 45 and 55?

    Looks like SpAmRaY has provided some information, so I'll just briefly note that MX reds and browns are 45g, so is 45g Topre, but the 45g Topre feels a little stiffer due to the different force curve (more resistance at the start of the downward stroke).

    Having said that, they are nothing like blacks or greens, so I would say 55g Topre would be the one for you.

    Also HHKB is only available in 45g - if you did get one of those you would have to modify it to 55g, which would require a donor RealForce or similar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Sun, 08 February 2015, 05:50:19
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 08 February 2015, 03:48:54
    Looks like SpAmRaY has provided some information, so I'll just briefly note that MX reds and browns are 45g, so is 45g Topre, but the 45g Topre feels a little stiffer due to the different force curve (more resistance at the start of the downward stroke).

    Having said that, they are nothing like blacks or greens, so I would say 55g Topre would be the one for you.

    Also HHKB is only available in 45g - if you did get one of those you would have to modify it to 55g, which would require a donor RealForce or similar.

    Ahhhhh, that's cool. I don't think I would go through that trouble to do that. I don't mind getting an ANSI layout, but I would have loved to get a full size 55g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 11:24:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 February 2015, 00:12:26
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sat, 07 February 2015, 21:27:39
    1) Where can I get a geekhack sticker for my keyboard
    2) when are the [Ctrl]Alt stickers back

    1) I haven't seen them in a long time. PM Shadovved. He might have some left. He made them.
    2) PM BunnyLake and ask?
    ok done
    Hopefully I can ethug soon :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 08 February 2015, 12:41:31
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 11:24:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 February 2015, 00:12:26
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sat, 07 February 2015, 21:27:39
    1) Where can I get a geekhack sticker for my keyboard
    2) when are the [Ctrl]Alt stickers back

    1) I haven't seen them in a long time. PM Shadovved. He might have some left. He made them.
    2) PM BunnyLake and ask?
    ok done
    Hopefully I can ethug soon :(

    I think you can also check Feng's eBay store.  He has some sticker, but I don't remember they are the Cherry one or the geekhack one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 15:08:32
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 08 February 2015, 12:41:31
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 11:24:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 February 2015, 00:12:26
    Quote from: hking0036 on Sat, 07 February 2015, 21:27:39
    1) Where can I get a geekhack sticker for my keyboard
    2) when are the [Ctrl]Alt stickers back

    1) I haven't seen them in a long time. PM Shadovved. He might have some left. He made them.
    2) PM BunnyLake and ask?
    ok done
    Hopefully I can ethug soon :(

    I think you can also check Feng's eBay store.  He has some sticker, but I don't remember they are the Cherry one or the geekhack one.
    He does Cherry but no GH.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 February 2015, 21:02:13
    Quote from: flaming_june on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:27:51
    Will Ducky release a TKL version of the Ducky 4?

    Ducky replied to me (I contacted them on their Facebook page). It's not in their current plans to do a TKL version. They said it might be available in the future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 21:03:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 February 2015, 21:02:13
    Quote from: flaming_june on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:27:51
    Will Ducky release a TKL version of the Ducky 4?

    Ducky replied to me (I contacted them on their Facebook page). It's not in their current plans to do a TKL version. They said it might be available in the future.
    seems odd, It'd be a great seller, you'd think that would be up there in priority
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: flaming_june on Mon, 09 February 2015, 02:40:29
    Thanks for asking.  That's a very disappointing answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 09 February 2015, 19:27:10
    Just curious, why most people use 62g black instead of 62g red when they want 62g linear switch? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 February 2015, 19:33:23
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Mon, 09 February 2015, 19:27:10
    Just curious, why most people use 62g black instead of 62g red when they want 62g linear switch?

    Blacks seem to be very easy to get a hold of. I've bought at least 3 Cherry boards with Blacks in them for very cheap. Reds came about more recently so it's a bit harder to get them in a used or loose form.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 09 February 2015, 19:36:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 February 2015, 19:33:23
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Mon, 09 February 2015, 19:27:10
    Just curious, why most people use 62g black instead of 62g red when they want 62g linear switch?

    Blacks seem to be very easy to get a hold of. I've bought at least 3 Cherry boards with Blacks in them for very cheap. Reds came about more recently so it's a bit harder to get them in a used or loose form.

    Especially when you are looking at vintage boards that don't work with plug adapters and can buy a board with 101 switches for $3.  And almost all of those older boards are equipped with blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tetriswizard on Tue, 10 February 2015, 00:50:02
    Where can I get a dwg for a replacement plate for my Poker II that has switch top removal compatibility?
    Would dyeing white stems purple be viable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Tue, 10 February 2015, 06:07:12
    Hi,

    If i want to put 2 teensy in my keyboard (one to deal only with the firmware, the other to deal with a LCD, serial read to display time...) Do each teensy needs a separate cable connected to a different USB port or is there a magic voodoo way to have only one cable that goes inside the case and have the 2 teensy connected to the computer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 10 February 2015, 06:43:59
    Quote from: Tetriswizard on Tue, 10 February 2015, 00:50:02
    1.  Where can I get a dwg for a replacement plate for my Poker II that has switch top removal compatibility?

    2.Would dyeing white stems purple be viable?

    1.  You could try asking in Making Stuff Together section.  There are a couple people that help with that quite frequently.

    2.  There has been debate on that.  The general consensus is that due to the type of plastic used for stems, they won't take dye very well.

    Quote from: Kaibz on Tue, 10 February 2015, 06:07:12
    Hi,

    If i want to put 2 teensy in my keyboard (one to deal only with the firmware, the other to deal with a LCD, serial read to display time...) Do each teensy needs a separate cable connected to a different USB port or is there a magic voodoo way to have only one cable that goes inside the case and have the 2 teensy connected to the computer?

    The only way I can think of would be to also hide a tiny 2 port usb hub inside the keyboard, one port for each teensy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Tue, 10 February 2015, 07:24:52
    Thank you Melvang.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Tue, 10 February 2015, 07:43:13
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Mon, 09 February 2015, 19:27:10
    Just curious, why most people use 62g black instead of 62g red when they want 62g linear switch?
    Because you can get old blacks and you can only get new reds, which are horrible and scratchy. Also black's a more neutral colour and usually looks nicer on customs, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hjc1710 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:54:05
    I'm thinking about getting a Kitten Paw for my MJ2, any opinions on which of the frameworks listed on the DT Wiki is the best? Looks like TMK or Easy AVR, to me.

    However, I do have a question or two about BathroomEpiphanies controller (located here: https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/costar_keyboard). Basically, what does PWM control for LEDs mean? What advantage does timer interrupt matrix scans give me? Do most custom firmwares provide this?

    Finally, is this controller swap a relatively easy project (say, first solder job level easy)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:56:16
    Quote from: hjc1710 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:54:05
    I'm thinking about getting a Kitten Paw for my MJ2, any opinions on which of the frameworks listed on the DT Wiki is the best? Looks like TMK or Easy AVR, to me.

    However, I do have a question or two about BathroomEpiphanies controller (located here: https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/costar_keyboard (https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/costar_keyboard)). Basically, what does PWM control for LEDs mean? What advantage does timer interrupt matrix scans give me? Do most custom firmwares provide this?

    Finally, is this controller swap a relatively easy project (say, first solder job level easy)?


    I can only speak to the last question, there is no soldering involved the controller is socket mounted so you just remove the old one and install the new one, assuming the new controller board itself is already soldered which I believe they typically are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:59:05
    Quote from: hjc1710 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:54:05
    1) I'm thinking about getting a Kitten Paw for my MJ2, any opinions on which of the frameworks listed on the DT Wiki is the best? Looks like TMK or Easy AVR, to me.

    2) However, I do have a question or two about BathroomEpiphanies controller (located here: https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/costar_keyboard). Basically, what does PWM control for LEDs mean? What advantage does timer interrupt matrix scans give me? Do most custom firmwares provide this?

    3) Finally, is this controller swap a relatively easy project (say, first solder job level easy)?

    1) I like EasyAVR. I'm terrible with programming and coding. EasyAVR is....easy, just as advertised :).

    2) I don't know. I would guess it's to control brightness but I honestly have no idea.

    3) Like ray said, it's easy. No soldering. You just pop the old daughterboard off and pop this one in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hjc1710 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:59:17
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:56:16
    Quote from: hjc1710 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:54:05
    I'm thinking about getting a Kitten Paw for my MJ2, any opinions on which of the frameworks listed on the DT Wiki is the best? Looks like TMK or Easy AVR, to me.

    However, I do have a question or two about BathroomEpiphanies controller (located here: https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/costar_keyboard (https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/costar_keyboard)). Basically, what does PWM control for LEDs mean? What advantage does timer interrupt matrix scans give me? Do most custom firmwares provide this?

    Finally, is this controller swap a relatively easy project (say, first solder job level easy)?


    I can only speak to the last question, there is no soldering involved the controller is socket mounted so you just remove the old one and install the new one, assuming the new controller board itself is already soldered which I believe they typically are.

    Awesome! If this is the case, I'll probably order one tonight instead of waiting for an iron to get here. Thanks Spam!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hjc1710 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 09:01:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:59:05
    Quote from: hjc1710 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 08:54:05
    1) I'm thinking about getting a Kitten Paw for my MJ2, any opinions on which of the frameworks listed on the DT Wiki is the best? Looks like TMK or Easy AVR, to me.

    2) However, I do have a question or two about BathroomEpiphanies controller (located here: https://github.com/BathroomEpiphanies/costar_keyboard). Basically, what does PWM control for LEDs mean? What advantage does timer interrupt matrix scans give me? Do most custom firmwares provide this?

    3) Finally, is this controller swap a relatively easy project (say, first solder job level easy)?

    1) I like EasyAVR. I'm terrible with programming and coding. EasyAVR is....easy, just as advertised :).

    2) I don't know. I would guess it's to control brightness but I honestly have no idea.

    3) Like ray said, it's easy. No soldering. You just pop the old daughterboard off and pop this one in.

    Beautiful! Thanks CPT! I'll try EasyAVR first, but I code about 10 hours a day, so getting my hands messy with programming doesn't scare me (though it's been about 5 years since I've cranked out a line of C).

    It looks like flashing the controller should be easy enough, but I'll pop my head back in if I have problems. Thanks Spam + CPT :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:54:17
    Stupid question, but I just want a quick clarification on this.

    Are these Matias switches are 100% consistent with Alps in terms of plate cutout and such?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=480

    If my plate building tool supports these switches, it will support all Alps switches?  Thx...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:57:10
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:54:17
    Stupid question, but I just want a quick clarification on this.

    Are these Matias switches are 100% consistent with Alps in terms of plate cutout and such?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=480

    If my plate building tool supports these switches, it will support all Alps switches?  Thx...

    I see they also have these: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=269

    Should I be getting them instead for testing Alps compatibility?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:04:12
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:54:17
    Stupid question, but I just want a quick clarification on this.

    Are these Matias switches are 100% consistent with Alps in terms of plate cutout and such?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=480

    If my plate building tool supports these switches, it will support all Alps switches?  Thx...

    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:57:10
    I see they also have these: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=269

    Should I be getting them instead for testing Alps compatibility?



    They'll be fine. You don't need to pick up the Matias or those Green XM switches to test them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:34:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:04:12
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:54:17
    Stupid question, but I just want a quick clarification on this.

    Are these Matias switches are 100% consistent with Alps in terms of plate cutout and such?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=480

    If my plate building tool supports these switches, it will support all Alps switches?  Thx...

    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:57:10
    I see they also have these: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=269

    Should I be getting them instead for testing Alps compatibility?

    They'll be fine. You don't need to pick up the Matias or those Green XM switches to test them.

    Thanks...  :)  I am sending them to BigBlueSaw so they can be sure that all the plate cutting work they do for us works for both MX and Alps switch types.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:37:24
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:34:03
    Thanks...  :)  I am sending them to BigBlueSaw so they can be sure that all the plate cutting work they do for us works for both MX and Alps switch types.  :)

    Sounds good. Looking forward to seeing people making more stuff with your tool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:46:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:37:24
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:34:03
    Thanks...  :)  I am sending them to BigBlueSaw so they can be sure that all the plate cutting work they do for us works for both MX and Alps switch types.  :)

    Sounds good. Looking forward to seeing people making more stuff with your tool.

    Thanks.  Ya it is pretty cool to see people using it.  I love that people are 3D printing plates for prototyping.  Thats is just awesome.  :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:04:39
    Anyone know the name of the 60% alu keyboard that have few circle brass weight under the pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RavenII on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:40:41
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:34:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:04:12
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:54:17
    Stupid question, but I just want a quick clarification on this.

    Are these Matias switches are 100% consistent with Alps in terms of plate cutout and such?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=480

    If my plate building tool supports these switches, it will support all Alps switches?  Thx...

    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:57:10
    I see they also have these: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=269

    Should I be getting them instead for testing Alps compatibility?

    They'll be fine. You don't need to pick up the Matias or those Green XM switches to test them.

    Thanks...  :)  I am sending them to BigBlueSaw so they can be sure that all the plate cutting work they do for us works for both MX and Alps switch types.  :)

    Any reason for Bigbluesaw vs something like emachineshop?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: missalaire on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:01:12
    Does anyone know if any aluminum feet would be compatible with the Trik aluminum skin keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:09:41
    Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:40:41
    Any reason for Bigbluesaw vs something like emachineshop?

    BigBlueSaw seems to have some experience working on keyboards in the past. Maybe that's why people keep going back? A few people have tried it and it worked out?

    Quote from: missalaire on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:01:12
    Does anyone know if any aluminum feet would be compatible with the Trik aluminum skin keyboard?

    Does the case have two holes on the bottom that would accept the feet?

    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:04:39
    Anyone know the name of the 60% alu keyboard that have few circle brass weight under the pcb?

    Duck Mini V1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/sets/72157643617395025/)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:23:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:09:41
    Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:40:41
    Any reason for Bigbluesaw vs something like emachineshop?

    BigBlueSaw seems to have some experience working on keyboards in the past. Maybe that's why people keep going back? A few people have tried it and it worked out?

    Quote from: missalaire on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:01:12
    Does anyone know if any aluminum feet would be compatible with the Trik aluminum skin keyboard?

    Does the case have two holes on the bottom that would accept the feet?

    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:04:39
    Anyone know the name of the 60% alu keyboard that have few circle brass weight under the pcb?

    Duck Mini V1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/sets/72157643617395025/)?

    Yes, Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:32:10
    Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:40:41
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:34:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:04:12
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:54:17
    Stupid question, but I just want a quick clarification on this.

    Are these Matias switches are 100% consistent with Alps in terms of plate cutout and such?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=480

    If my plate building tool supports these switches, it will support all Alps switches?  Thx...

    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:57:10
    I see they also have these: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=269

    Should I be getting them instead for testing Alps compatibility?

    They'll be fine. You don't need to pick up the Matias or those Green XM switches to test them.

    Thanks...  :)  I am sending them to BigBlueSaw so they can be sure that all the plate cutting work they do for us works for both MX and Alps switch types.  :)

    Any reason for Bigbluesaw vs something like emachineshop?
    BigBlueSaw is the first company who has contacted me interested in my tool and making things easier for members of our community. They are often recommended by GH members when people are looking to get plates cut, so they are already a known name around here. Honestly it has just been an organic relationship because we are both trying to solve the same problems for our users/customers.

    If other companies are interested in catering to our community and want to work with me to ensure that users of my tool will have consistent repeatable results, I am down with working with them. More quality choices for the community is never a bad thing. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: missalaire on Tue, 10 February 2015, 20:33:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:09:41
    Quote from: missalaire on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:01:12
    Does anyone know if any aluminum feet would be compatible with the Trik aluminum skin keyboard?

    Does the case have two holes on the bottom that would accept the feet?

    This is what the back of the case looks like:

    (http://i.imgur.com/csaJKt5.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 10 February 2015, 21:30:16
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:32:10
    Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:40:41
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:34:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:04:12
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:54:17
    Stupid question, but I just want a quick clarification on this.

    Are these Matias switches are 100% consistent with Alps in terms of plate cutout and such?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=480

    If my plate building tool supports these switches, it will support all Alps switches?  Thx...

    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:57:10
    I see they also have these: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=269

    Should I be getting them instead for testing Alps compatibility?

    They'll be fine. You don't need to pick up the Matias or those Green XM switches to test them.

    Thanks...  :)  I am sending them to BigBlueSaw so they can be sure that all the plate cutting work they do for us works for both MX and Alps switch types.  :)

    Any reason for Bigbluesaw vs something like emachineshop?
    BigBlueSaw is the first company who has contacted me interested in my tool and making things easier for members of our community. They are often recommended by GH members when people are looking to get plates cut, so they are already a known name around here. Honestly it has just been an organic relationship because we are both trying to solve the same problems for our users/customers.

    If other companies are interested in catering to our community and want to work with me to ensure that users of my tool will have consistent repeatable results, I am down with working with them. More quality choices for the community is never a bad thing. :)

    Not only this but it helps them dial in and tighten up manufacturing tolerances with an entire community that can potentially provide them with steady business.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 21:47:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 10 February 2015, 21:30:16
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:32:10
    Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:40:41
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:34:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 14:04:12
    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:54:17
    Stupid question, but I just want a quick clarification on this.

    Are these Matias switches are 100% consistent with Alps in terms of plate cutout and such?

    http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=480

    If my plate building tool supports these switches, it will support all Alps switches?  Thx...

    Quote from: swill on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:57:10
    I see they also have these: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=269

    Should I be getting them instead for testing Alps compatibility?

    They'll be fine. You don't need to pick up the Matias or those Green XM switches to test them.

    Thanks...  :)  I am sending them to BigBlueSaw so they can be sure that all the plate cutting work they do for us works for both MX and Alps switch types.  :)

    Any reason for Bigbluesaw vs something like emachineshop?
    BigBlueSaw is the first company who has contacted me interested in my tool and making things easier for members of our community. They are often recommended by GH members when people are looking to get plates cut, so they are already a known name around here. Honestly it has just been an organic relationship because we are both trying to solve the same problems for our users/customers.

    If other companies are interested in catering to our community and want to work with me to ensure that users of my tool will have consistent repeatable results, I am down with working with them. More quality choices for the community is never a bad thing. :)

    Not only this but it helps them dial in and tighten up manufacturing tolerances with an entire community that can potentially provide them with steady business.
    Ya exactly.  Its good for everyone.  I think there are already 3 different people getting quotes from them for plate jobs using my tool.  My tool has only been live for like two weeks and is not even finished.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 February 2015, 06:39:43
    Quote from: missalaire on Tue, 10 February 2015, 20:33:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:09:41
    Quote from: missalaire on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:01:12
    Does anyone know if any aluminum feet would be compatible with the Trik aluminum skin keyboard?

    Does the case have two holes on the bottom that would accept the feet?

    This is what the back of the case looks like:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/csaJKt5.jpg)


    Cool. So if you take that bar off, you can put little aluminum feet on. I think exitfire401 just told me that he bought some feet for his Kingsaver from GON so maybe he's got feet for your LZ? You could also try checking IMSTO's site and perhaps PM LZ or kin25. Kin25 just put up a IC for an LZ board so perhaps he/she knows how to get a hold of LZ stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 11 February 2015, 18:26:13
    I was lurking on kbdlab and found someone who puts their springs in a rice cooker and steams them lol. Anyone know what this does to the springs?

    http://kbdlab.co.kr/?mid=board_Lsno50&page=6&document_srl=926870

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 11 February 2015, 18:34:27
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 11 February 2015, 18:26:13
    I was lurking on kbdlab and found someone who puts their springs in a rice cooker and steams them lol. Anyone know what this does to the springs?

    http://kbdlab.co.kr/?mid=board_Lsno50&page=6&document_srl=926870
    If google translate is somewhat accurate, then I think it's to lube them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 February 2015, 18:36:39
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 11 February 2015, 18:26:13
    I was lurking on kbdlab and found someone who puts their springs in a rice cooker and steams them lol. Anyone know what this does to the springs?

    http://kbdlab.co.kr/?mid=board_Lsno50&page=6&document_srl=926870

    I bet it's to clean the springs off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Wed, 11 February 2015, 21:35:11
    Can I get measurements of costar cutouts without the cherry parts?
    Maybe a drawing of a combined cutout that shows cherry parts masked off is even better.
    That would save me some math and fiddling with spacing from the switches.  :p
    I'm planning on using costar stabs and want to save on plate cuts
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 February 2015, 21:40:42
    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Wed, 11 February 2015, 21:35:11
    Can I get measurements of costar cutouts without the cherry parts?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:19:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 February 2015, 21:40:42
    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Wed, 11 February 2015, 21:35:11
    Can I get measurements of costar cutouts without the cherry parts?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0

    I've been to those threads. Everything there seems to only have combined stab cutouts.
    Or are you suggesting I go ask there?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 February 2015, 04:36:37
    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:19:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 February 2015, 21:40:42
    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Wed, 11 February 2015, 21:35:11
    Can I get measurements of costar cutouts without the cherry parts?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0

    I've been to those threads. Everything there seems to only have combined stab cutouts.
    Or are you suggesting I go ask there?
    Suggesting you check there. If you can't find what you're looking for there, I suggest asking in the CAD thread or PM swill, jdcarpe, or MOZ.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Fri, 13 February 2015, 04:57:49
    Since joining here, I've seen talk about plenty of stuff I hadn't heard of before, and not much about the brands I had already known of. My question is specifically about Das Keyboards. They don't seem to be talked about much here; are they below the standards of most people on GH? If so, what's wrong with them?

    I ask because I bought one before I discovered the many other options and I'll probably want to resell it and buy something better.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bueller on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:00:38
    Quick question. I've found a place to buy Cherry plate mounted stabilisers however they only have the 2x ones. Can I take a 2x one and replace the wire with a 6.25x one for the space bar? I have plenty of 6.25x and 7x wires, they're just all attached to PCB mounted stabs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:03:27
    Quote from: bueller on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:00:38
    Quick question. I've found a place to buy Cherry plate mounted stabilisers however they only have the 2x ones. Can I take a 2x one and replace the wire with a 6.25x one for the space bar? I have plenty of 6.25x and 7x wires, they're just all attached to PCB mounted stabs.
    Yeah you can
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bueller on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:15:02
    Quote from: azhdar on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:03:27
    Quote from: bueller on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:00:38
    Quick question. I've found a place to buy Cherry plate mounted stabilisers however they only have the 2x ones. Can I take a 2x one and replace the wire with a 6.25x one for the space bar? I have plenty of 6.25x and 7x wires, they're just all attached to PCB mounted stabs.
    Yeah you can

    Sweet! Going to find a Filco plate and get rid of those nasty Costar stabs!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:34:58
    It's worth pointing out that any stab wires that have kinks in them (so 6/6.25u wires salvaged from PCB mount Cherry boards for example) won't fit when used with a plate as the wire sits under the plate and the kink won't fit between the plate and the PCB. Most 7u wires I've seen don't have the kink so should be ok.

    You will probably be better off bending your own wires if you're going less than 7u (I'm pretty sure the correct gauges and whatnot are in the OP).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:54:43
    Quote from: Ludovician on Fri, 13 February 2015, 04:57:49
    My question is specifically about Das Keyboards. They don't seem to be talked about much here; are they below the standards of most people on GH? If so, what's wrong with them?

    Das Keyboards are currently made with Greetech switches which are MX clones. AFAIK, there's not a lot of experience with them in the community. I think the price points of the boards were always off. For the same price, I'd rather get a Ducky. The Das 3 had that awful shiny fingerprint trap. And a lot of people don't like the aesthetics.

    Quote from: bueller on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:00:38
    Quick question. I've found a place to buy Cherry plate mounted stabilisers however they only have the 2x ones. Can I take a 2x one and replace the wire with a 6.25x one for the space bar? I have plenty of 6.25x and 7x wires, they're just all attached to PCB mounted stabs.

    Yes you can; the other replies nailed it :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bueller on Fri, 13 February 2015, 06:11:34
    Quote from: Hzza on Fri, 13 February 2015, 05:34:58
    It's worth pointing out that any stab wires that have kinks in them (so 6/6.25u wires salvaged from PCB mount Cherry boards for example) won't fit when used with a plate as the wire sits under the plate and the kink won't fit between the plate and the PCB. Most 7u wires I've seen don't have the kink so should be ok.

    You will probably be better off bending your own wires if you're going less than 7u (I'm pretty sure the correct gauges and whatnot are in the OP).
    All good, the 6.25 and 7x space bar wires are new Cherrys off Taobao so they should drop in properly :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 13 February 2015, 08:17:27
    Quote from: Ludovician on Fri, 13 February 2015, 04:57:49
    Since joining here, I've seen talk about plenty of stuff I hadn't heard of before, and not much about the brands I had already known of. My question is specifically about Das Keyboards. They don't seem to be talked about much here; are they below the standards of most people on GH? If so, what's wrong with them?

    I ask because I bought one before I discovered the many other options and I'll probably want to resell it and buy something better.
    Most people are either turned off by the design, the glossy exterior, the little known Greetech MX clones, or their high starting price. Even before when they used Cherry switches, the other three reasons were usually enough
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ouro on Sun, 15 February 2015, 17:12:08
    How can I solder LEDs onto a JD40?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sun, 15 February 2015, 17:13:28
    Quote from: Ouro on Sun, 15 February 2015, 17:12:08
    How can I solder LEDs onto a JD40?
    iirc JD40 pcb doesn't support leds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 15 February 2015, 17:23:22
    Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 15 February 2015, 17:13:28
    Quote from: Ouro on Sun, 15 February 2015, 17:12:08
    How can I solder LEDs onto a JD40?
    iirc JD40 pcb doesn't support leds.

    There are holes for them, just no traces from there to anything. You'd have to solder a matrix of some sort and connect to power.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:25:02
    I'm considering changing the color of my Filco case. I can't decide between painting or vinyl wrapping. It seems to me there is more that could go wrong with painting and it is less reversible.

    My question is about durability. If I follow Photoelectric's painting guide (including adding a clear coat), will the paint be significantly more durable than vinyl? Anything else I should know that could make me pick one over another?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:37:24
    I think the big issue with vinyl over paint, is that if you knock vinyl and pierce it, it's a lot more susceptible thereafter to peeling and the whole finish being ruined. If you just paint it and chip it, there is a lot less of a chance of all the paint coming off than with vinyl.

    If you then follow Photoelectric's guide to toughen the paint, and you get the correct paint, it should last a long time. Of course then you need to decide if the design you want comes in paint/you could paint it yourself depending on how complicated it is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:40:22
    Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:37:24
    I think the big issue with vinyl over paint, is that if you knock vinyl and pierce it, it's a lot more susceptible thereafter to peeling and the whole finish being ruined. If you just paint it and chip it, there is a lot less of a chance of all the paint coming off than with vinyl.

    If you then follow Photoelectric's guide to toughen the paint, and you get the correct paint, it should last a long time. Of course then you need to decide if the design you want comes in paint/you could paint it yourself depending on how complicated it is.

    Yes, this exactly.

    Think a vinyl auto wrap, versus a new coat of paint on your car.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:42:16
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:25:02
    I'm considering changing the color of my Filco case. I can't decide between painting or vinyl wrapping. It seems to me there is more that could go wrong with painting and it is less reversible.

    My question is about durability. If I follow Photoelectric's painting guide (including adding a clear coat), will the paint be significantly more durable than vinyl? Anything else I should know that could make me pick one over another?

    Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:37:24
    I think the big issue with vinyl over paint, is that if you knock vinyl and pierce it, it's a lot more susceptible thereafter to peeling and the whole finish being ruined. If you just paint it and chip it, there is a lot less of a chance of all the paint coming off than with vinyl.

    If you then follow Photoelectric's guide to toughen the paint, and you get the correct paint, it should last a long time. Of course then you need to decide if the design you want comes in paint/you could paint it yourself depending on how complicated it is.

    The link for that thread is here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44191.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:52:09
    Never vinyl wrapped a car so I have near 0 experience with vinyl wrapping.

    Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:37:24
    I think the big issue with vinyl over paint, is that if you knock vinyl and pierce it, it's a lot more susceptible thereafter to peeling and the whole finish being ruined. If you just paint it and chip it, there is a lot less of a chance of all the paint coming off than with vinyl.

    If you then follow Photoelectric's guide to toughen the paint, and you get the correct paint, it should last a long time. Of course then you need to decide if the design you want comes in paint/you could paint it yourself depending on how complicated it is.



    I feel like if the paint does chip, it will bother me enough that I will need to fix the paint (which would be a more difficult proces than fixing the vinyl).

    I guess more specifically my question is: Is the initial scratch/chip more likely to happen on vinyl or paint? It sounds like you guys are saying paint will be more resistant to all wear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:56:31
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:52:09
    I guess more specifically my question is: Is the initial scratch/chip more likely to happen on vinyl or paint? It sounds like you guys are saying paint will be more resistant to all wear.

    How I see it is this: If I scratch or wear a vinyl wrap, I'd be OCD and have to replace the *whole* wrap. Can you patch vinyl wrap? I don't even know but I'd imagine it'd look like a little sticker. If I chip paint, I can just paint that spot over again.

    Is the vinyl wrap more durable than paint? I don't know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:56:38
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 16 February 2015, 09:52:09
    It sounds like you guys are saying paint will be more resistant to all wear.

    This has been my experience, but I am not an expert. 

    Personally, I would almost always rather properly paint a keyboard rather than wrap it.  If I'm already making a modification, it might as well be as durable as can be.  You can always sand and paint a new colour if you change your mind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 16 February 2015, 12:59:16
    Is there a guide for ordering from hanaacryl?

    I need a KMAC case from there but I have no idea what I'm doing
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 16 February 2015, 16:58:15
    Anyone know the weight of 100ish MX switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 16 February 2015, 19:19:53
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 16 February 2015, 16:58:15
    Anyone know the weight of 100ish MX switches?

    Assuming my $1 scale is generally accurate, it's around 200g. (110 MX reds in a ziplock bag)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 16 February 2015, 19:53:43
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 16 February 2015, 19:19:53
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 16 February 2015, 16:58:15
    Anyone know the weight of 100ish MX switches?

    Assuming my $1 scale is generally accurate, it's around 200g. (110 MX reds in a ziplock bag)
    Thanks :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Mon, 16 February 2015, 20:45:20
    Is there any way one can buy Topre 55g switches without a whole keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 16 February 2015, 20:48:11
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 16 February 2015, 20:45:20
    Is there any way one can buy Topre 55g switches without a whole keyboard?

    no, topre switches are not discrete, they are capsense similar to IBM F buckling springs.  The actuation method is different. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 17 February 2015, 02:21:47
    I opened up my poker2 ISO and it seems that the PCB would support an ANSI layout, anyone ever done the mod here?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 17 February 2015, 04:06:29
    Does lubed switch accumulate more dust compared to non lubed switch? I think I'll assemble my viper unlube due to some circumstances. How much difference is between lubed ergo clear vs non lube?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Tue, 17 February 2015, 04:13:50
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Tue, 17 February 2015, 04:06:29
    Does lubed switch accumulate more dust compared to non lubed switch? I think I'll assemble my viper unlube due to some circumstances. How much difference is between lubed ergo clear vs non lube?

    If you've never had any problems with dust accumulating inside the switch housing then lubing them won't as well. The housings for cherry MX switches is very tight and I doubt any dust would be able to enter it when everything is put together. From personal experience, I find lubed ergo clears much more enjoyable to type and this seems to be common opinion when comparing lubed and non lubed ergo clears, but with pretty much everything in this hobby, it all comes down to personal preferences so I suggest lubing up a few clear switches place them on a plate and compare it to un lubed to see which you prefer more.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 06:40:09
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Tue, 17 February 2015, 04:06:29
    1) Does lubed switch accumulate more dust compared to non lubed switch?
    2) How much difference is between lubed ergo clear vs non lube?

    1) No, I don't think it matters.
    2) There is a noticeable difference. Not sure how you'd like me to quantify that difference. It's enough that you wouldn't mistake one for another.

    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 16 February 2015, 20:45:20
    Is there any way one can buy Topre 55g switches without a whole keyboard?

    No

    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 17 February 2015, 02:21:47
    I opened up my poker2 ISO and it seems that the PCB would support an ANSI layout, anyone ever done the mod here?

    Not that I know of. I've seen a mod on DT where someone did a huge mod from ISO to ANSI on a Cherry board but it sounds like the PCB is already setup for ANSI or ISO. Take some pictures and share them if you're unsure if it will work.

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 16 February 2015, 12:59:16
    Is there a guide for ordering from hanaacryl?

    I need a KMAC case from there but I have no idea what I'm doing

    I've never heard of this site and I couldn't figure it out myself. I don't think there's a guide on Geekhack at least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 06:57:31
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 17 February 2015, 02:21:47
    I opened up my poker2 ISO and it seems that the PCB would support an ANSI layout, anyone ever done the mod here?

    You can do this, but you would need an ANSI plate. The Poker II uses plate mounted stabilizers, so if you tried to mod to ANSI without a plate, you wouldn't be able to install any stabilizers. I don't think there are holes for stabilizers in the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 17 February 2015, 07:33:49
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 06:57:31
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 17 February 2015, 02:21:47
    I opened up my poker2 ISO and it seems that the PCB would support an ANSI layout, anyone ever done the mod here?

    You can do this, but you would need an ANSI plate. The Poker II uses plate mounted stabilizers, so if you tried to mod to ANSI without a plate, you wouldn't be able to install any stabilizers. I don't think there are holes for stabilizers in the PCB.
    Yeah the plan is to get an ANSI plate to do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: moogle on Tue, 17 February 2015, 10:08:25
    can smd components be soldered onto a pcb with plate and switches already installed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 10:10:22
    Quote from: moogle on Tue, 17 February 2015, 10:08:25
    can smd components be soldered onto a pcb with plate and switches already installed?

    Yes but the other bits might get in the way and make it a little more complicated. I don't think they need to be installed in any order.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: slip84 on Tue, 17 February 2015, 10:54:33
    Questions for Yoda owners:
    Ummm, that's it for now. Going to buy one from a friend, but I only played with a few minutes and can't find too much information after a quick search.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kaibz on Tue, 17 February 2015, 10:58:14
    Hi,

    I was reading an article about keyboard matrix (this one: http://pcbheaven.com/wikipages/How_Key_Matrices_Works/)
    And i got a bit puzzled reading this:

    "A cheap solution is the 1N4148 general purpose diodes. If you plan to have many keys and thus you need faster sampling, then select a schottkey diode instead."

    I am building a keyboard mainly for gaming, using Tmk firmware with a teensy 2.0++, i have 90 keys, and i really like the very high polling rate i can achieve with Tmk. So should i invest in some schottkey diodes or will the 1N4148 will be fine? If i do have to use schottkey, are the BAT 41 (100V/100mA) ok?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:03:38
    Quote from: Kaibz on Tue, 17 February 2015, 10:58:14
    Hi,

    I was reading an article about keyboard matrix (this one: http://pcbheaven.com/wikipages/How_Key_Matrices_Works/)
    And i got a bit puzzled reading this:

    "A cheap solution is the 1N4148 general purpose diodes. If you plan to have many keys and thus you need faster sampling, then select a schottkey diode instead."

    I am building a keyboard mainly for gaming, using Tmk firmware with a teensy 2.0++, i have 90 keys, and i really like the very high polling rate i can achieve with Tmk. So should i invest in some schottkey diodes or will the 1N4148 will be fine? If i do have to use schottkey, are the BAT 41 (100V/100mA) ok?

    I've never used the schottkey diodes. I think the 1N4148s will be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:40:48
    What do most people do with the dolch network analyzer after they pick it up for the keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:42:25
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:40:48
    What do most people do with the dolch network analyzer after they pick it up for the keyboard?

    Most people just buy the keyboard.  If you've bought the whole unit, you're probably interested in keeping it for collection purposes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:42:32
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:40:48
    What do most people do with the dolch network analyzer after they pick it up for the keyboard?


    Mine went to the landfill.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:43:22
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:40:48
    What do most people do with the dolch network analyzer after they pick it up for the keyboard?

    I've really wanted to play with the network analyzer just to try it out.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:42:32
    Mine went to the landfill.

    Sad day :(

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:46:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:42:32
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:40:48
    What do most people do with the dolch network analyzer after they pick it up for the keyboard?


    Mine went to the landfill.
    I was going to mention that this is the other option but it felt wrong to suggest it.   :-X   Also, all those extra shipping fees...

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:43:22
    I've really wanted to play with the network analyzer just to try it out.
    ^^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:48:01
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:46:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:42:32
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:40:48
    What do most people do with the dolch network analyzer after they pick it up for the keyboard?


    Mine went to the landfill.
    I was going to mention that this is the other option but it felt wrong to suggest it.   :-X   Also, all those extra shipping fees...

    This was before you could buy GMK Dolch, of course. Just wanted the keyboard, but seller refused to split it up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:51:39
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:46:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:42:32
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:40:48
    What do most people do with the dolch network analyzer after they pick it up for the keyboard?


    Mine went to the landfill.
    I was going to mention that this is the other option but it felt wrong to suggest it.   :-X   Also, all those extra shipping fees...

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:43:22
    I've really wanted to play with the network analyzer just to try it out.
    ^^

    ^^So much this

    I would love to pick one up not just to tinker with but to reuse the shell, I know its bulky but I think it could be a great project case for many things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:53:13
    I'm a bit confused. I am looking to trade a keyboard. The keyboard I am possibly getting is a Majestouch 1 silver label. Looking it up, I found on this page (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Filco_Majestouch) under the Majestouch (not MJ2) section:

    Quote
    The colour of the metallic "FILCO" badge above the numeric keypad was silver for 2KRO keyboards, and gold for NKRO keyboards.

    However, the label of the keyboard is: FKBN87M/EW
    (http://i.imgur.com/HAsneXv.jpg)

    It says later on the deskthority page that the "N" after "FKB" designates NKRO.

    So is the MJ1 I'm looking at NKRO or 2KRO? I think NKRO but I wanted a confirmation on the seemingly contradicting information. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:54:31
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:51:39
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:46:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:42:32
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:40:48
    What do most people do with the dolch network analyzer after they pick it up for the keyboard?


    Mine went to the landfill.
    I was going to mention that this is the other option but it felt wrong to suggest it.   :-X   Also, all those extra shipping fees...

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:43:22
    I've really wanted to play with the network analyzer just to try it out.
    ^^

    ^^So much this

    I would love to pick one up not just to tinker with but to reuse the shell, I know its bulky but I think it could be a great project case for many things.

    This is not my area of expertise, but if you could somehow reuse the screen for something that would be awesome.  :D   Even building it to be a totable (Chrome doesn't like this word :( ) little computer would be fun.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:58:08
    Quote from: greath on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:53:13
    I'm a bit confused. I am looking to trade a keyboard. The keyboard I am possibly getting is a Majestouch 1 silver label. Looking it up, I found on this page (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Filco_Majestouch) under the Majestouch (not MJ2) section:

    Quote
    The colour of the metallic "FILCO" badge above the numeric keypad was silver for 2KRO keyboards, and gold for NKRO keyboards.

    However, the label of the keyboard is: FKBN87M/EW
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/HAsneXv.jpg)


    It says later on the deskthority page that the "N" after "FKB" designates NKRO.

    So is the MJ1 I'm looking at NKRO or 2KRO? I think NKRO but I wanted a confirmation on the seemingly contradicting information.

    Tell the person to install the EK Switch Hitter or Key Hitter program. Or AquaKeyTest. Tell him to hit 6-8 keys and have it show up on the key tester program. Then ask if they've ever played a game like CS or LoL. If all that checks out, it's probably NKRO or 6KRO. The programs verify you're hitting that number of keys. Get them to send you a screenshot of those programs. The games verify the board isn't hitting the max key rollover.

    Edit: Oops, got confused. Let's try that again. With the quote you've shown, isn't that referring to the badge on the front of the board? Not the back like you're showing? The back of the keyboard isn't above the numberpad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 12:18:54
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:54:31
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:51:39
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:46:37
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:42:32
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:40:48
    What do most people do with the dolch network analyzer after they pick it up for the keyboard?


    Mine went to the landfill.
    I was going to mention that this is the other option but it felt wrong to suggest it.   :-X   Also, all those extra shipping fees...

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:43:22
    I've really wanted to play with the network analyzer just to try it out.
    ^^

    ^^So much this

    I would love to pick one up not just to tinker with but to reuse the shell, I know its bulky but I think it could be a great project case for many things.

    This is not my area of expertise, but if you could somehow reuse the screen for something that would be awesome.  :D   Even building it to be a totable (Chrome doesn't like this word :( ) little computer would be fun.

    Indeed, the first project that comes to mind would be a portable jukebox, a raspberry pi, large hard drive, and their is plenty of room inside to mount some speakers and a few large capacity batteries, bluetooth dongle so that it could be controlled with a phone or tablet.   Dare I drool, an old amber display in exchange for the stock screen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 12:23:08
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 12:18:54
    Indeed, the first project that comes to mind would be a portable jukebox, a raspberry pi, large hard drive, and their is plenty of room inside to mount some speakers and a few large capacity batteries, bluetooth dongle so that it could be controlled with a phone or tablet.   Dare I drool, an old amber display in exchange for the stock screen.

    If you've got one coming and are planning on doing this project., please please please make a build log of it or show pictures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 12:29:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 12:23:08
    Quote from: jackalope on Tue, 17 February 2015, 12:18:54
    Indeed, the first project that comes to mind would be a portable jukebox, a raspberry pi, large hard drive, and their is plenty of room inside to mount some speakers and a few large capacity batteries, bluetooth dongle so that it could be controlled with a phone or tablet.   Dare I drool, an old amber display in exchange for the stock screen.

    If you've got one coming and are planning on doing this project., please please please make a build log of it or show pictures.

    Due to financial constraints I'm not picking one up yet, doing research mostly now, but when I do get one I will make sure to do a build log and put it up here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 17 February 2015, 18:59:20
    How do the cases of say an LZ-MX and a KMAC Mini compare? Are they the same aluminum alloy? Thickness? Finish?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:27:48
    Q: Does a Ducky Shine 3 TKL fit inside a Tex Aluminum casing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 18 February 2015, 02:08:30
    Are LEDs that are trimmed to fit in a SIP socket reusable? For example, I take out an LED that I used in a SIP socket and want to solder it in another switch but permanently without a SIP socket. Will the legs still be long enough?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 February 2015, 05:48:04
    Quote from: radio_killah on Wed, 18 February 2015, 02:08:30
    Are LEDs that are trimmed to fit in a SIP socket reusable? For example, I take out an LED that I used in a SIP socket and want to solder it in another switch but permanently without a SIP socket. Will the legs still be long enough?

    As long as you don't damage the LEDs and the legs go through the PCB far enough, I don't see why not.

    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 17 February 2015, 18:59:20
    How do the cases of say an LZ-MX and a KMAC Mini compare? Are they the same aluminum alloy? Thickness? Finish?

    I'm fairly sure both are aluminum 6061-T6. I don't know thicknesses. Both are anodized; I don't know if both are hard anodized but I believe so. The LZ MX has that super heavy bar foot while the KMAC Mini uses small round feet. I believe that the LZ would be much heavier than a KMAC. Other than that, I'm not sure there's much of a difference. But I don't own both so I can't compare side by side. Here's some links that may help:

    - Photoelectric figuring out that the LZ-GH is 6061-T6 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49632.0). I would assume the LZ MX is the same.
    - MX Mini pictures from LZ (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/MX-MINI)
    - KMAC Mini picture from reaper/demik (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36871.0)
    - kbdmania pictures of KMAC Mini (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/photo/3892160)

    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:27:48
    Q: Does a Ducky Shine 3 TKL fit inside a Tex Aluminum casing?

    (http://i.imgur.com/eyE0gyA.jpg)
    From Paranoid (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/ducky-shine-ii-tkl-mod-plate-switch-led-caps-t6805.html)
    (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_281_DSC_0771.jpg)
    From MK.com (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=281)

    Looks like no. If you look carefully, the dimensions seem difference. Look at the space between the arrow cluster/nav cluster and the alphas. The TEX dimension is much thinner than the Ducky one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Wed, 18 February 2015, 05:53:46
    Can anyone show me pics of a topre spacebar (hhkb/realforce) compared right next to a SA spacebar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:51:16
    Thanks CPTBA, I'm just worried since the LEDs need to be trimmed down more than they usually would since they are inserted into the SIP socket. I guess it would also depend on the thickness of the PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:02:22
    Quote from: radio_killah on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:51:16
    Thanks CPTBA, I'm just worried since the LEDs need to be trimmed down more than they usually would since they are inserted into the SIP socket. I guess it would also depend on the thickness of the PCB?
    Yeah and it would depend on how much you trimmed the legs. I'd just try a test fit if I were you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:15:39
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 16 February 2015, 12:59:16
    Is there a guide for ordering from hanaacryl?

    I need a KMAC case from there but I have no idea what I'm doing

    nobody answered me on the last page

    i'm still confused about how this works

    and if there are any more pics of the kmac case i'd love to see them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:27:49
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:15:39
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 16 February 2015, 12:59:16
    Is there a guide for ordering from hanaacryl?

    I need a KMAC case from there but I have no idea what I'm doing

    nobody answered me on the last page

    i'm still confused about how this works

    and if there are any more pics of the kmac case i'd love to see them

    I couldn't figure it out nor do I know which KMAC case you're referring to.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 February 2015, 06:40:09
    Quote from: TacticalStache on Mon, 16 February 2015, 12:59:16
    Is there a guide for ordering from hanaacryl?

    I need a KMAC case from there but I have no idea what I'm doing

    I've never heard of this site and I couldn't figure it out myself. I don't think there's a guide on Geekhack at least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:58:28
    oh i must've missed that then

    i'll wait and see if i can find anything on it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 19 February 2015, 00:00:36
    Quote from: radio_killah on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:51:16
    Thanks CPTBA, I'm just worried since the LEDs need to be trimmed down more than they usually would since they are inserted into the SIP socket. I guess it would also depend on the thickness of the PCB?

    If the question is about trimming LED legs and then removing the SIP sockets and trying to use the LEDs for the same use (in switches), I do not believe it would work, for the reason you've given.  Of course, the LEDs will still function properly, but as you've said the legs will be too short to fit through to a PCB (in fact, they shouldn't even make it through the bottom of the switch housing).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 19 February 2015, 00:22:21
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 19 February 2015, 00:00:36
    Quote from: radio_killah on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:51:16
    Thanks CPTBA, I'm just worried since the LEDs need to be trimmed down more than they usually would since they are inserted into the SIP socket. I guess it would also depend on the thickness of the PCB?

    If the question is about trimming LED legs and then removing the SIP sockets and trying to use the LEDs for the same use (in switches), I do not believe it would work, for the reason you've given.  Of course, the LEDs will still function properly, but as you've said the legs will be too short to fit through to a PCB (in fact, they shouldn't even make it through the bottom of the switch housing).
    Okay that's what I thought. Glad I could get some confirmation. So basically once you trim the legs the LEDs basically become for SIP Sockets only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:29:59
    I'm looking for a tkl or 60% keyboard with blue switches, I need to open the switches, so it must have a plate with cutouts, or be it needs to be pcb mounted I suppose.

    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:32:17
    Quote from: gianni on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:29:59
    I'm looking for a tkl or 60% keyboard with blue switches, I need to open the switches, so it must have a plate with cutouts, or be it needs to be pcb mounted I suppose.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 07:55:47
    Quote from: gianni on Thu, 19 February 2015, 07:52:55
    Right now I'm looking for a tkl or 60% keyboard with blue switches and a plate that allows the top of the switches to be removed. Do you think that it exists?

    There are no plate mounted stock boards with cutouts that allow for switch tops to be removed. You'll need to buy a custom if you want that feature built in.

    I kind of answered this in the other thread you asked in. I'm not really up on my PCB mount boards but I know for a fact that the old Poker X and Pure are PCB mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:39:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:32:17
    Quote from: gianni on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:29:59
    I'm looking for a tkl or 60% keyboard with blue switches, I need to open the switches, so it must have a plate with cutouts, or be it needs to be pcb mounted I suppose.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 07:55:47
    Quote from: gianni on Thu, 19 February 2015, 07:52:55
    Right now I'm looking for a tkl or 60% keyboard with blue switches and a plate that allows the top of the switches to be removed. Do you think that it exists?

    There are no plate mounted stock boards with cutouts that allow for switch tops to be removed. You'll need to buy a custom if you want that feature built in.

    I kind of answered this in the other thread you asked in. I'm not really up on my PCB mount boards but I know for a fact that the old Poker X and Pure are PCB mount.

    Yes, thanks for your answer, that was fast!!!
    I thing that the vortex pure is a poker???? If it is so it is unavailable due to the production of the poker III
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:46:22
    Quote from: gianni on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:39:04
    I thing that the vortex pure is a poker???? If it is so it is unavailable due to the production of the poker III

    Hm? The old Pure, not the Pure Pro or Poker 2 or Poker 3. Like this (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=109). Or the Poker X. You'll most likely have to find them used in various forums' classifieds since they're old models as you're suggesting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BakaPhoenix on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:55:53
    There is any plate compatible with the Cooler Maste QuickFire Rapid-I iso layout, one that can support opening switches without desoldering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:59:20
    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:55:53
    There is any plate compatible with the Cooler Maste QuickFire Rapid-I iso layout, one that can support opening switches without desoldering?

    I believe that there was a universal TKL plate that allowed for the ISO layout. But you could also try your hand at making one in swill's plate tool and then get it cut. You could try BigBlueSaw or talk to matt3o as I believe you are both in Italy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:01:00
    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:55:53
    There is any plate compatible with the Cooler Maste QuickFire Rapid-I iso layout, one that can support opening switches without desoldering?

    Any universal plate should do

    you can modify the one that came with the board as well, if you want

    putting in a new plate still requires desoldering, you know
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:08:12
    I'm pretty sure all the "universal" TKL plates that have been sold have been ANSI 125 only. They all use plate mount stabilizers, so there's really no way to make them interchangeable with ISO and/or 150 layouts. They were called "universal" because they fit several different brands of keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:23:42
    How hard would it be to "restore" the pins of cherry switches?
    And since said switches are Vintages blacks, will it change the feel a lot if I change the bottom for modern bottom?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:28:47
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:23:42
    1) How hard would it be to "restore" the pins of cherry switches?
    2) And since said switches are Vintages blacks, will it change the feel a lot if I change the bottom for modern bottom?

    1) What is wrong with the pins exactly?
    2) It could. I believe that "vintage blacks" are either worn or come from certain batches of Blacks that Cherry made where the tooling was different or out of spec. Since the stem does travel into the switch bottom, changing the switch housing could affect how it feels.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:32:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:28:47
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:23:42
    1) How hard would it be to "restore" the pins of cherry switches?
    2) And since said switches are Vintages blacks, will it change the feel a lot if I change the bottom for modern bottom?

    1) What is wrong with the pins exactly?
    2) It could. I believe that "vintage blacks" are either worn or come from certain batches of Blacks that Cherry made where the tooling was different or out of spec. Since the stem does travel into the switch bottom, changing the switch housing could affect how it feels.
    1) I don't got them on hand yet, but according to the guy he brokes some(1/5 of the batch u_u ).
    2) Yeah that's what I though, I'll see when I got them.
    Thx
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:34:02
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:32:14
    1) I don't got them on hand yet, but according to the guy he brokes some(1/5 of the batch u_u ).

    1) Um...depending on how much is left over, you could solder a bit of wire to what's left of the leg. I've tried that before and it worked ok.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:41:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:34:02
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:32:14
    1) I don't got them on hand yet, but according to the guy he brokes some(1/5 of the batch u_u ).

    1) Um...depending on how much is left over, you could solder a bit of wire to what's left of the leg. I've tried that before and it worked ok.
    k thx
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:31:19
    What is the greatest amount of rows/columns combined I can handwire with a teensy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:34:39
    Any guides on how to use the o2d keymapper for duck keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 20:55:03
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:31:19
    What is the greatest amount of rows/columns combined I can handwire with a teensy?

    Teensy 2.0 has 25 digital pins (0-24), you can work that into a 12x13 matrix (doesn't need to match your physical layout), for a total of 156 keys. If you want to make your matrix match a physical layout, things are a little more limited.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 20 February 2015, 20:57:27
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 20:55:03
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:31:19
    What is the greatest amount of rows/columns combined I can handwire with a teensy?

    Teensy 2.0 has 25 digital pins (0-24), you can work that into a 12x13 matrix (doesn't need to match your physical layout), for a total of 156 keys. If you want to make your matrix match a physical layout, things are a little more limited.
    What do you mean by physical layout? I plan on making a 12x12 completely linear layout: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/0b800bb77d8208c62e3df551fd32680a
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 21:09:49
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 20:57:27
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 20:55:03
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:31:19
    What is the greatest amount of rows/columns combined I can handwire with a teensy?

    Teensy 2.0 has 25 digital pins (0-24), you can work that into a 12x13 matrix (doesn't need to match your physical layout), for a total of 156 keys. If you want to make your matrix match a physical layout, things are a little more limited.
    What do you mean by physical layout? I plan on making a 12x12 completely linear layout: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/0b800bb77d8208c62e3df551fd32680a

    Yep, that can be done with a single teensy. What I mean by physical layout is if (for example) you wanted a 6x21 layout, like this: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/1e1f39fb8bf98407d3dc192dc27483c7 you could do it (6 * 21 = 126 keys), although you'd have to get more complicated with your wiring matrix than assigning a pin to each row and column (6 + 21 = 27 pins).

    With a 12x12 layout, you can assign each row and column to a single pin and it's a bit easier to work with from a firmware and keymapping perspective.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 20 February 2015, 21:14:59
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 21:09:49
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 20:57:27
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 20:55:03
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:31:19
    What is the greatest amount of rows/columns combined I can handwire with a teensy?

    Teensy 2.0 has 25 digital pins (0-24), you can work that into a 12x13 matrix (doesn't need to match your physical layout), for a total of 156 keys. If you want to make your matrix match a physical layout, things are a little more limited.
    What do you mean by physical layout? I plan on making a 12x12 completely linear layout: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/0b800bb77d8208c62e3df551fd32680a

    Yep, that can be done with a single teensy. What I mean by physical layout is if (for example) you wanted a 6x21 layout, like this: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/1e1f39fb8bf98407d3dc192dc27483c7 you could do it (6 * 21 = 126 keys), although you'd have to get more complicated with your wiring matrix than assigning a pin to each row and column (6 + 21 = 27 pins).

    With a 12x12 layout, you can assign each row and column to a single pin and it's a bit easier to work with from a firmware and keymapping perspective.
    Ah thanks, that's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. The most expensive part would be buying same-profile caps for the thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 21:30:36
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 21:14:59
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 21:09:49
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 20:57:27
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 20:55:03
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:31:19
    What is the greatest amount of rows/columns combined I can handwire with a teensy?

    Teensy 2.0 has 25 digital pins (0-24), you can work that into a 12x13 matrix (doesn't need to match your physical layout), for a total of 156 keys. If you want to make your matrix match a physical layout, things are a little more limited.
    What do you mean by physical layout? I plan on making a 12x12 completely linear layout: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/0b800bb77d8208c62e3df551fd32680a

    Yep, that can be done with a single teensy. What I mean by physical layout is if (for example) you wanted a 6x21 layout, like this: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/1e1f39fb8bf98407d3dc192dc27483c7 you could do it (6 * 21 = 126 keys), although you'd have to get more complicated with your wiring matrix than assigning a pin to each row and column (6 + 21 = 27 pins).

    With a 12x12 layout, you can assign each row and column to a single pin and it's a bit easier to work with from a firmware and keymapping perspective.
    Ah thanks, that's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. The most expensive part would be buying same-profile caps for the thing.

    Keep an eye out for a GB that offers blanks, and see about picking up 150 blanks of your chosen profile. That's probably the easiest way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:42:30
    Anyone know where I can get a blank white set of pbt caps in cherry profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Osurne on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:37:25
    I am a college kid that has been interested in getting a mechanical keyboard for a long time. I was wondering should I dive into the deep end and build my own 60% keyboard, or just buy a noppoo choc mini or ducky shine mini, etc.? If you suggest buying what is a good 60% board? I really want blue switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:21:42
    Quote from: Osurne on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:37:25
    I am a college kid that has been interested in getting a mechanical keyboard for a long time. I was wondering should I dive into the deep end and build my own 60% keyboard, or just buy a noppoo choc mini or ducky shine mini, etc.? If you suggest buying what is a good 60% board? I really want blue switches.

    Poker 2 is a favorite around here :).

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:42:30
    Anyone know where I can get a blank white set of pbt caps in cherry profile?

    I think lin3 is offering caps in the TX1800 GB thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:30:13
    Quote from: Osurne on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:37:25
    I am a college kid that has been interested in getting a mechanical keyboard for a long time. I was wondering should I dive into the deep end and build my own 60% keyboard, or just buy a noppoo choc mini or ducky shine mini, etc.? If you suggest buying what is a good 60% board? I really want blue switches.


    The craft of keyboards cannot be understood any other way, but by building your very own one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Osurne on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:37:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:21:42
    Quote from: Osurne on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:37:25
    I am a college kid that has been interested in getting a mechanical keyboard for a long time. I was wondering should I dive into the deep end and build my own 60% keyboard, or just buy a noppoo choc mini or ducky shine mini, etc.? If you suggest buying what is a good 60% board? I really want blue switches.

    Poker 2 is a favorite around here :).

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:42:30
    Anyone know where I can get a blank white set of pbt caps in cherry profile?

    I think lin3 is offering caps in the TX1800 GB thread.
    I have been seeing that mentioned a lot, but I googled it and couldn't find any.
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:30:13
    Quote from: Osurne on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:37:25
    I am a college kid that has been interested in getting a mechanical keyboard for a long time. I was wondering should I dive into the deep end and build my own 60% keyboard, or just buy a noppoo choc mini or ducky shine mini, etc.? If you suggest buying what is a good 60% board? I really want blue switches.


    The craft of keyboards cannot be understood any other way, but by building your very own one.

    Roughly how much would it cost though?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:43:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:21:42
    Quote from: Osurne on Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:37:25
    I am a college kid that has been interested in getting a mechanical keyboard for a long time. I was wondering should I dive into the deep end and build my own 60% keyboard, or just buy a noppoo choc mini or ducky shine mini, etc.? If you suggest buying what is a good 60% board? I really want blue switches.

    Poker 2 is a favorite around here :).

    I second the poker 2, I loved mine when I had it.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:21:42
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:42:30
    Anyone know where I can get a blank white set of pbt caps in cherry profile?

    I think lin3 is offering caps in the TX1800 GB thread.

    Those are beige, I don't think I'll be able to dye them and have the colors come out how I want them to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:44:32
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:30:13
    The craft of keyboards cannot be understood any other way, but by building your very own one.

    This blows my mind.

    I have worked on (that is, completely dis-assembled and re-assembled) literally hundreds of keyboards.

    There is no way that I would waste my time "re-inventing the wheel" when literally thousands of keyboard engineers have spent literally millions of man-hours designing keyboards.

    Find something that interests you and circle around it until you zero in on your ideal.

    That said, I really want to build a Kingsaver with blue Alps.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:54:24
    Quote from: Osurne on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:37:23
    1) I have been seeing that mentioned a lot, but I googled it and couldn't find any

    2) Roughly how much would it cost though?

    1) Looks like Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2C512M7560) has them for sale right now. But I'd wait until MechanicalKeyboards.com gets them back in stock or if Massdrop does another sale.

    2) Custom keyboards can cost anywhere from $100 to $1000+. Depends on how your build goes. Handwired builds might be cheaper than a kit but I think the Infinity was relatively affordable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IronIcecream on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:39:48
    Will the NKRO on the Ducky Mini work correctly on a Mac?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:58:12
    Quote from: IronIcecream on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:39:48
    Will the NKRO on the Ducky Mini work correctly on a Mac?

    Does NKRO change per the OS? I'm asking generally. I don't think it does. I thought it was more of a function of the circuit and having diodes. I would say it works but I'm not 100% sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 23 February 2015, 06:50:14
    Quote from: IronIcecream on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:39:48
    Will the NKRO on the Ducky Mini work correctly on a Mac?
    Most likely not, it has been said that Mac's are limited to 6KRO. But with programmable controlers (Teensy, Hasu's Alt HHKB), using Easy AVR and TMK  firmware I have been able to have get NKRO on Mac's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 23 February 2015, 07:14:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:58:12
    Quote from: IronIcecream on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:39:48
    Will the NKRO on the Ducky Mini work correctly on a Mac?

    Does NKRO change per the OS? I'm asking generally. I don't think it does. I thought it was more of a function of the circuit and having diodes. I would say it works but I'm not 100% sure.

    Hardware level yes that is all it takes.  The software side is a different story.  From what I recall the multiple board emultion version or NKRO over USB gets very flaky on Mac.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:24:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 23 February 2015, 07:14:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:58:12
    Quote from: IronIcecream on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:39:48
    Will the NKRO on the Ducky Mini work correctly on a Mac?

    Does NKRO change per the OS? I'm asking generally. I don't think it does. I thought it was more of a function of the circuit and having diodes. I would say it works but I'm not 100% sure.

    Hardware level yes that is all it takes.  The software side is a different story.  From what I recall the multiple board emultion version or NKRO over USB gets very flaky on Mac.

    ITT: Don't use a Mac, if you care about NKRO.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:27:47
    Can someone link more information about NKRO and Macs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:28:27
    -sigh-
    Does Ducky Mini fit inside Tex 60% case?  :(
    Killin' me here.
    I'm dying.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:31:18
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:28:27
    Does Ducky Mini fit inside Tex 60% case?

    I can't find a picture of the PCB but I think so? Cannot 100% confirm though.

    Is there a reason you don't want to pick up the Ducky Mini Year of the Horse? That has an aluminum case.

    And why are you so bummed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:32:06
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:28:27
    -sigh-
    Does Ducky Mini fit inside Tex 60% case?  :(
    Killin' me here.
    I'm dying.

    I can't say for sure, as I don't own a Ducky Mini, but I suspect it would if my theory about Vortex being the OEM is correct.

    Can you post a pic of the PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:52:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:31:18
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:28:27
    Does Ducky Mini fit inside Tex 60% case?

    I can't find a picture of the PCB but I think so? Cannot 100% confirm though.

    Is there a reason you don't want to pick up the Ducky Mini Year of the Horse? That has an aluminum case.

    And why are you so bummed?
    I'm bummed because I've spent 10+ hours looking at keyboards and I still can't figure out exactly what I'm getting. Long story short, I have word that the Shine 3 TKL will work with Tex case but the case won't be in stock until "hopefully by the end of Spring". I was getting all excited for the Mini because the 60% case is in stock right now and I can get it all set up very soon and in my hands. However, the Mini and YOTH have a miniusb port on the left side of the keyboard as shown here:
    http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/ducky-mini/images/mini_photo_02.jpg

    As bummed as I am to see this possibility fade before my eyes, if I ended up buying all the stuff and finding out I can't get it to fit with my non-existent modding skills, that will suck big time.

    Both the YOTH and the Mini have an aluminum case, the YOTH one just has a more solid, CNC machined one. However, I find the aesthetic to be blegh and I think adopting the Tex 60% look would be perfect for this. I'd say it would look as good if not better than my original TKL idea.


    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:32:06
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:28:27
    -sigh-
    Does Ducky Mini fit inside Tex 60% case?  :(
    Killin' me here.
    I'm dying.

    I can't say for sure, as I don't own a Ducky Mini, but I suspect it would if my theory about Vortex being the OEM is correct.

    Can you post a pic of the PCB?
    That is the best I can do for now. Can't find any pictures.  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:06:22
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:52:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:31:18
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:28:27
    Does Ducky Mini fit inside Tex 60% case?

    I can't find a picture of the PCB but I think so? Cannot 100% confirm though.

    Is there a reason you don't want to pick up the Ducky Mini Year of the Horse? That has an aluminum case.

    And why are you so bummed?

    However, the Mini and YOTH have a miniusb port on the left side of the keyboard as shown here:
    http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/ducky-mini/images/mini_photo_02.jpg

    Both the YOTH and the Mini have an aluminum case, the YOTH one just has a more solid, CNC machined one. However, I find the aesthetic to be blegh and I think adopting the Tex 60% look would be perfect for this. I'd say it would look as good if not better than my original TKL idea

    Oh...yeah. I didn't remember that. I don't think the Mini will work with the Tex case. The port location messes things up.

    The Mini only has an aluminum top cover. The bottom of the case is plastic. The YOTH is a full aluminum case. I checked that when I saw a Mini in person at MK.com.

    Can you confirm that the Shine 3 TKL fits in the Tex TKL case? I wasn't aware of this. Perhaps a link or something?

    Since MK.com has all of these boards, maybe you can just contact 00ZerO or JoshMK and ask them? Perhaps they can check for you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:12:43
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:52:55
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:32:06
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:28:27
    -sigh-
    Does Ducky Mini fit inside Tex 60% case?  :(
    Killin' me here.
    I'm dying.

    I can't say for sure, as I don't own a Ducky Mini, but I suspect it would if my theory about Vortex being the OEM is correct.

    Can you post a pic of the PCB?
    That is the best I can do for now. Can't find any pictures.  :(


    Nope, that's not gonna work at all. Different mount points.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:34:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:06:22
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:52:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:31:18
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:28:27
    Does Ducky Mini fit inside Tex 60% case?

    I can't find a picture of the PCB but I think so? Cannot 100% confirm though.

    Is there a reason you don't want to pick up the Ducky Mini Year of the Horse? That has an aluminum case.

    And why are you so bummed?

    However, the Mini and YOTH have a miniusb port on the left side of the keyboard as shown here:
    http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/ducky-mini/images/mini_photo_02.jpg

    Both the YOTH and the Mini have an aluminum case, the YOTH one just has a more solid, CNC machined one. However, I find the aesthetic to be blegh and I think adopting the Tex 60% look would be perfect for this. I'd say it would look as good if not better than my original TKL idea

    Oh...yeah. I didn't remember that. I don't think the Mini will work with the Tex case. The port location messes things up.

    The Mini only has an aluminum top cover. The bottom of the case is plastic. The YOTH is a full aluminum case. I checked that when I saw a Mini in person at MK.com.

    Can you confirm that the Shine 3 TKL fits in the Tex TKL case? I wasn't aware of this. Perhaps a link or something?

    Since MK.com has all of these boards, maybe you can just contact 00ZerO or JoshMK and ask them? Perhaps they can check for you?

    The mini has an aluminum top and bottom, sandwiching plastic. Paying $70 or so more for a stock case I will replace is a bit much for me. I don't want to use the mini with the stock case of either the Mini or the YOTH. It's definately a stretch, but I wonder if it's possible to connect the side usb port and loop the cable around inside the case to the normal usb cutout of the case. I've been looking into Poker IIs but it's out of stock (and I don't know much about them), and I've always wanted a Ducky, and to support a company from my home country,
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:12:43
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:52:55
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:32:06
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:28:27
    -sigh-
    Does Ducky Mini fit inside Tex 60% case?  :(
    Killin' me here.
    I'm dying.

    I can't say for sure, as I don't own a Ducky Mini, but I suspect it would if my theory about Vortex being the OEM is correct.

    Can you post a pic of the PCB?
    That is the best I can do for now. Can't find any pictures.  :(


    Nope, that's not gonna work at all. Different mount points.
    ok, i cri nao
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:53:32
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:34:23
    The mini has an aluminum top and bottom, sandwiching plastic.

    I don't think so. I distinctly remember aluminum top and plastic bottom from when I held it in person. I'd would like to see pictures or a link showing that it isn't.

    Nope, you're right. My memory obviously sucks. I found a link (http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/ducky-mini/).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: IronIcecream on Mon, 23 February 2015, 11:59:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:58:12
    Quote from: IronIcecream on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:39:48
    Will the NKRO on the Ducky Mini work correctly on a Mac?

    Does NKRO change per the OS? I'm asking generally. I don't think it does. I thought it was more of a function of the circuit and having diodes. I would say it works but I'm not 100% sure.

    The general consesus from videos and things i've seen on the internet says that OS X can't handle NKRO; however, in this post https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63028.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63028.0) the Mini is listed as a compatible.  So based on this I'm guessing whatever version on NKRO Ducky has doesn't interfere and there's a way to make the layout compatible with a mac.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:05:25
    What is the quietest most tactile cherry mx switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:06:58
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:05:25
    What is the quietest most tactile cherry mx switch?

    In my opinion?

    Stock = Stock MX Clear
    Modded = Jailhouse Blues

    I didn't enjoy the super high actuation point on the Jailhouse Blues but they were very tactile and the quietest MX switch that I can remember trying.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:07:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:06:58
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:05:25
    What is the quietest most tactile cherry mx switch?

    In my opinion?

    Stock = Stock MX Clear
    Modded = Jailhouse Blues

    I didn't enjoy the super high actuation point on the Jailhouse Blues but they were very tactile and the quietest MX switch that I can remember trying.

    That's what I was thinking as well but wanted to verify, thanks cptn.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:23:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:06:58
    I didn't enjoy the super high actuation point on the Jailhouse Blues

    Is it much higher than blue alps?  I remember those being too high for my liking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:24:34
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:23:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:06:58
    I didn't enjoy the super high actuation point on the Jailhouse Blues

    Is it much higher than blue alps?  I remember those being too high for my liking.

    Hm...From what I recall? Yes. But I don't think I had tried Blue Alps before I tried Jailhouse Blues. From what I can tell though, all the Alps actuation points are in the same spot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RavenII on Wed, 25 February 2015, 15:22:39
    Is it possible to un...follow? subscribe? from a thread so that it doesn't show up when you click "Show new replies to your posts."

    Anndddd....

    Is Gon's TKL board a direct swap/fit in a QFR case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 February 2015, 15:24:16
    Quote from: RavenII on Wed, 25 February 2015, 15:22:39
    Is it possible to un...follow? subscribe? from a thread so that it doesn't show up when you click "Show new replies to your posts."

    Nope.  Only way would be to un-post in the thread, so no.  If it's a big bother, I would change your browsing habits so that you "Watch" all of the threads you're interested in, since you have control over what falls into that category (moreso than posting or not posting).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 25 February 2015, 17:21:42
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 February 2015, 15:24:16
    Quote from: RavenII on Wed, 25 February 2015, 15:22:39
    Is it possible to un...follow? subscribe? from a thread so that it doesn't show up when you click "Show new replies to your posts."

    Nope.  Only way would be to un-post in the thread, so no.  If it's a big bother, I would change your browsing habits so that you "Watch" all of the threads you're interested in, since you have control over what falls into that category (moreso than posting or not posting).

    I really wish you could.  I always use "show new replies to your posts".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:14:45
    Quote from: RavenII on Wed, 25 February 2015, 15:22:39
    Is Gon's TKL board a direct swap/fit in a QFR case?

    That's a good question. Gut instinct says no but I honestly have no idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:43:35
    Any one have a rough idea what it would cost to ship a HHKB to Singapore from the U.S.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:45:49
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:43:35
    Any one have a rough idea what it would cost to ship a HHKB to Singapore from the U.S.
    depending on the service used somewhere in the area of $30-40
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 25 February 2015, 20:34:07
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:43:35
    Any one have a rough idea what it would cost to ship a HHKB to Singapore from the U.S.

    Why not just get it from Japan? shipping within Asia is always pretty damn reasonable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Thu, 26 February 2015, 01:08:06
    It should cost around ￥2000, around $23 (Singapore dollars) from Japan. At least, that's the Tenso cost.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 07:29:59
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:32:16
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:15:31
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:13:46
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:08:55
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:02:24
    (Attachment Link)

    For reference this is a 1cm bezel, not sure what the JD40 is but I think it's a bit larger.
    That should work. I'm looking for it to be a pretty small, lighter case

    The only thing that restricts the bezel size is the size of the bezel on the pcb, if you make the plate too small the standoffs will hit the pcb.
    So then what would be the smallest bezel that would work with a standard 60% PCB i.e. Poker II

    No clue, I actually just sold mine, this could be answered very easily if someone is willing to make a measurement for me. I need the distance from the center of the mx switch to the edge of the pcb. I need x, someone my know it. If no one knows or measures it I'll just use the dimensions of the GH60 because I already have those files.

    (Attachment Link)

    Anyone got this? Or would the GH60 specs work as a universal measurement?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Thu, 26 February 2015, 07:38:09
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 07:29:59
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:32:16
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:15:31
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:13:46
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:08:55
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:02:24
    (Attachment Link)

    For reference this is a 1cm bezel, not sure what the JD40 is but I think it's a bit larger.
    That should work. I'm looking for it to be a pretty small, lighter case

    The only thing that restricts the bezel size is the size of the bezel on the pcb, if you make the plate too small the standoffs will hit the pcb.
    So then what would be the smallest bezel that would work with a standard 60% PCB i.e. Poker II

    No clue, I actually just sold mine, this could be answered very easily if someone is willing to make a measurement for me. I need the distance from the center of the mx switch to the edge of the pcb. I need x, someone my know it. If no one knows or measures it I'll just use the dimensions of the GH60 because I already have those files.

    (Attachment Link)

    Anyone got this?

    I've never designed a PCB before but wouldn't the distance from the centre of the mx switch to the edge of the pcb be 0.5u since if you're going from the centre of the switch and you want the PCB to be as flush as possible then you'd want it to extend as far as the keycap would. But I might be missing something/misunderstanding the question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 February 2015, 07:59:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 07:29:59
    Anyone got this? Or would the GH60 specs work as a universal measurement?

    I would think the GH60 specs would be fine. But like Morealless, I haven't designed a PCB. But I don't see why it would vary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 February 2015, 08:00:44
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 07:29:59
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:32:16
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:15:31
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:13:46
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:08:55
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:02:24
    (Attachment Link)

    For reference this is a 1cm bezel, not sure what the JD40 is but I think it's a bit larger.
    That should work. I'm looking for it to be a pretty small, lighter case

    The only thing that restricts the bezel size is the size of the bezel on the pcb, if you make the plate too small the standoffs will hit the pcb.
    So then what would be the smallest bezel that would work with a standard 60% PCB i.e. Poker II

    No clue, I actually just sold mine, this could be answered very easily if someone is willing to make a measurement for me. I need the distance from the center of the mx switch to the edge of the pcb. I need x, someone my know it. If no one knows or measures it I'll just use the dimensions of the GH60 because I already have those files.

    (Attachment Link)

    Anyone got this? Or would the GH60 specs work as a universal measurement?

    I don't think the PCB would be outside the area where a normal switch "unit" would end.

    Maybe this post can help?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.msg1651248#msg1651248
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 08:04:42
    Alright then, I guess the GH60 specs would work. Thanks :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jackalope on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:37:41
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:45:49
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:43:35
    Any one have a rough idea what it would cost to ship a HHKB to Singapore from the U.S.
    depending on the service used somewhere in the area of $30-40

    thank you

    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 25 February 2015, 20:34:07
    Quote from: jackalope on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:43:35
    Any one have a rough idea what it would cost to ship a HHKB to Singapore from the U.S.

    Why not just get it from Japan? shipping within Asia is always pretty damn reasonable.

    I was looking to sell one to someone in Singapore and I am in the U.S.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sat, 28 February 2015, 06:50:49
    Anyone got experience with that : http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/768822391.htm?ca=12_s  ?
    Could the keyboard work as a simple unit ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:08:14
    What sort of connector/protocol does the IBM Displaywriter have?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 February 2015, 17:46:39
    Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 28 February 2015, 06:50:49
    Anyone got experience with that : http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/768822391.htm?ca=12_s  ?
    Could the keyboard work as a simple unit ?

    Looks like the computer is a Compaq Portable (http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2011/08/12/ibm_pc_30_anniversary/). The keyboard is just an IBM XT. If that is the case, I would say it would work fine. But it seems a shame to buy the system just for the board.

    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:08:14
    What sort of connector/protocol does the IBM Displaywriter have?

    Dorkvader has one, he would know. He took pictures of his Displaywriter on his flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157638625266495/with/11317262824/) but there's no picture of the connector.

    I did find webwit's pictures of his Displaywriter (http://webwit.nl/input/ibm_beam_spring/). Here's a shot of the connector (http://webwit.nl/input/ibm_beam_spring/displaywriter1.jpg).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rpeterclark on Sat, 28 February 2015, 17:51:46
    What are current options for purchasing PCB mount Cherry stabilizers? Mouser does not seem to have them in stock and I guess they never have the 6.25 spacebar stab anyway. GON of course has them but shipping is too much. IMSTO has them and the shipping still high but is more reasonable. Are there other options that I am not aware of? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 28 February 2015, 17:57:12
    Quote from: rpeterclark on Sat, 28 February 2015, 17:51:46
    What are current options for purchasing PCB mount Cherry stabilizers? Mouser does not seem to have them in stock and I guess they never have the 6.25 spacebar stab anyway. GON of course has them but shipping is too much. IMSTO has them and the shipping still high but is more reasonable. Are there other options that I am not aware of? 

    The last time I looked I found some at arrow but that was months ago.  I would check Cherry's site and Google search the part number. 

    I will warn it took a few hours of digging to locate 2u stabs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 28 February 2015, 18:14:07

    Quote from: rpeterclark on Sat, 28 February 2015, 17:51:46
    What are current options for purchasing PCB mount Cherry stabilizers? Mouser does not seem to have them in stock and I guess they never have the 6.25 spacebar stab anyway. GON of course has them but shipping is too much. IMSTO has them and the shipping still high but is more reasonable. Are there other options that I am not aware of?

    Post a WTB for the wires in classifieds, and buy the 2u from Mouser when they come back in stock. . If you find any 6.25's in retail, buy a lot as there are always people looking for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 February 2015, 23:29:28
    Quote from: rpeterclark on Sat, 28 February 2015, 17:51:46
    What are current options for purchasing PCB mount Cherry stabilizers? Mouser does not seem to have them in stock and I guess they never have the 6.25 spacebar stab anyway. GON of course has them but shipping is too much. IMSTO has them and the shipping still high but is more reasonable. Are there other options that I am not aware of?

    Ivan just ran a GB for them. You could wait for them to pop up in the classifieds or for extras to show up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sun, 01 March 2015, 12:07:46
    How would one go about getting an OTD keyboard? Are there any people who proxy them? I am extremely interested in finding one of these keyboards and I'm willing to pay the price.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 01 March 2015, 12:27:51
    Anyone know the output voltage for the indicator LEDs on the xwhatsit controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:32:32
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sun, 01 March 2015, 12:07:46
    How would one go about getting an OTD keyboard? Are there any people who proxy them? I am extremely interested in finding one of these keyboards and I'm willing to pay the price.

    Seems like Signature was helping people find OTD boards. Bro Caps, photekq, and billnye also seem to know. I've never really hunted for any myself so I'm not sure off the top of my head.

    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 March 2015, 12:27:51
    Anyone know the output voltage for the indicator LEDs on the xwhatsit controller?

    Try PMing xwhatsit. Really helpful and friendly guy. He'd definitely know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rockhawksam on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:39:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:32:32
    Quote from: rockhawksam on Sun, 01 March 2015, 12:07:46
    How would one go about getting an OTD keyboard? Are there any people who proxy them? I am extremely interested in finding one of these keyboards and I'm willing to pay the price.

    Seems like Signature was helping people find OTD boards. Bro Caps, photekq, and billnye also seem to know. I've never really hunted for any myself so I'm not sure off the top of my head.

    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 01 March 2015, 12:27:51
    Anyone know the output voltage for the indicator LEDs on the xwhatsit controller?

    Try PMing xwhatsit. Really helpful and friendly guy. He'd definitely know.
    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tetriswizard on Sun, 01 March 2015, 17:38:48
    Does Gons Universal Frame/Plate for 60% support switchtop pulling?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 March 2015, 17:59:03
    Quote from: Tetriswizard on Sun, 01 March 2015, 17:38:48
    Does Gons Universal Frame/Plate for 60% support switchtop pulling?

    No it doesn't. You can tell because the holes are just squares. The switchtop pulling holes look oddly shaped. Check it out:

    (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/162-large_default/universal-frameplate-for-60.jpg)
    GON's plate (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html) - no removal

    (http://i.imgur.com/OsUH3.jpg)
    BossBorot's The_Beast 60% plate (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35152.msg734668#msg734668) - allows for removal


    I think the reasoning is because the extra slots could allow for some play. The squares ensure the switches sit in with maximum amount of rigidity.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: slickmamba on Sun, 01 March 2015, 18:03:06
    OO first time :)

    If I take the mx sliders off of my novatouch and want to put them on my type-s hhkb.  Would it be as easy as:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oledome on Mon, 02 March 2015, 05:26:44
    Are Cherry switches manufactured in Germany?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Mon, 02 March 2015, 05:29:11
    Quote from: oledome on Mon, 02 March 2015, 05:26:44
    Are Cherry switches manufactured in Germany?

    Yeah, cherry MX switches are made in Germany. Here's a pretty interesting video on it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1gP4PfqCQ)

    Quote from: slickmamba on Sun, 01 March 2015, 18:03:06
    OO first time :)

    If I take the mx sliders off of my novatouch and want to put them on my type-s hhkb.  Would it be as easy as:

    • popping out 60 switches from the hhkb and novatouch
    • swapping the landing pads
    • popping them back in?

    If you want to make a complete switch to the novatouch sliders on your HHKB, you're going to also have to drill some holes into the plate for the longer keys (only for the ones that need stabs which IIRC is only the left shift and enter key) to let the two side MX stems through, since the plate is too high to let the key actuate if you don't do it. Also I think that the type - s sliders are a bit longer than the novatouch slider since it accommodates for the thickness of the landing pads so if you decide to swap the landing pads aswell the keys might have a shorter travel distance since they would be depressed more.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oledome on Mon, 02 March 2015, 05:53:15
    Quote from: Moralless on Mon, 02 March 2015, 05:29:11

    Yeah, cherry MX switches are made in Germany. Here's a pretty interesting video on it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1gP4PfqCQ)

    Thanks for that, good to know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 March 2015, 20:26:05
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/02/e19e6eb7add27323a75d71d081d3f223.jpg)

    Does topre slider orientation matter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 02 March 2015, 20:46:15
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 March 2015, 20:26:05
    Show Image
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/02/e19e6eb7add27323a75d71d081d3f223.jpg)


    Does topre slider orientation matter?
    I have noticed in my HHKB it doesn't matter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:34:46
    I want to do a silencing mod on my HHKB. Does it matter what material you use for the landing pads? If so, what should I use?

    As for creating the rings, is it advised to trim the edges regardless, or just leave them square unless they are problematic?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:11:14
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:34:46
    I want to do a silencing mod on my HHKB. Does it matter what material you use for the landing pads? If so, what should I use?

    As for creating the rings, is it advised to trim the edges regardless, or just leave them square unless they are problematic?

    Thanks.

    Do you use landing pads for a silence mod? I wasn't aware that the mod worked like that. AFAIK, you either use dental bands (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0), punched rubber (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40582.0), or o-rings (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:19:38
    Guess I'm getting my terminology mixed up, sorry. I'm planning on doing the punched rubber method.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:27:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:11:14
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:34:46
    I want to do a silencing mod on my HHKB. Does it matter what material you use for the landing pads? If so, what should I use?

    As for creating the rings, is it advised to trim the edges regardless, or just leave them square unless they are problematic?

    Thanks.

    Do you use landing pads for a silence mod? I wasn't aware that the mod worked like that. AFAIK, you either use rubber bands (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0), punched rubber (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40582.0), or o-rings (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0).


    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:19:38
    Guess I'm getting my terminology mixed up, sorry. I'm planning on doing the punched rubber method.

    Check out o2dazone's thread. I think it's very comprehensive. It doesn't look he or anyone else trimmed anything. Apparently they're calling it rubber gaskets? I'm going to stick with punched rubber 'cause it's concise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:30:33
    Yeah, I'd been thinking of a slightly different mod for the Realforce using Elitekeyboards' soft landing pads: http://imgur.com/a/JUwMi

    Either way, I'll take a look at o2dazone's thread. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:32:30
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:30:33
    Yeah, I'd been thinking of a slightly different mod for the Realforce using Elitekeyboards' soft landing pads: http://imgur.com/a/JUwMi

    Cool! Never seen that before. Those landing-pads are a bit pricey though iirc. I wonder if o2dazone's method is a bit cheaper. And I can't imagine trimming all those pads is very fun. But still really cool. Thank you for sharing that :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:34:16
    Yeah, that's EK for you. I'm hoping it won't be too difficult to find something local so I'm not paying double the price to get it delivered.

    Then I'll have to try not to screw it up too badly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:36:41
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:34:16
    Yeah, that's EK for you. I'm hoping it won't be too difficult to find something local so I'm not paying double the price to get it delivered.

    Then I'll have to try not to screw it up too badly.

    I mean if I were to do the mod, I'd go with o2dazone's method 'cause I think it's a cool mod. And it looks fun to do. But if you're concerned about simplicity or price, it seems like the dental bands/rubber bands are the cheapest and easiest way to go.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:37:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:32:30
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:30:33
    Yeah, I'd been thinking of a slightly different mod for the Realforce using Elitekeyboards' soft landing pads: http://imgur.com/a/JUwMi (http://imgur.com/a/JUwMi)

    Cool! Never seen that before. Those landing-pads are a bit pricey though iirc. I wonder if o2dazone's method is a bit cheaper. And I can't imagine trimming all those pads is very fun. But still really cool. Thank you for sharing that :) .

    The original ironed landing pads idea came from spicebar -> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0) , there are some updates along the way in the thread that aren't reflected in the OP also.

    And you don't have to trim the corners as you can rotate the pads so there are no clearance issues, I actually did this mod last night for the second time.

    I also plan on trying o2dazone's method in the future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:40:54
    Do you know which method works better? I think the Realforce I'm on now has landing pads (I bought it pre-modded from kudos_and_godspeed) and I'm liking it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:56:11
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:40:54
    Do you know which method works better? I think the Realforce I'm on now has landing pads (I bought it pre-modded from kudos_and_godspeed) and I'm liking it.

    My least favorite is dental bands, after using a Type-S I don't care for the feel of the dental bands.

    My 87U has the o2dazone mod done by a previous owner and I like it very much.

    For me the landing pad is kind of an in between, I'm still experimenting with it.

    All of the mods make topre quieter however they all require different amounts of time and effort to achieve. I also should mention I'm using thick krytox lube as well.

    Dental bands by far is easiest then I think landing pads and/or using punches both take longer and both require a certain level of detail whether it is making sure the pad thickness is correct when ironing or punching the proper sized ring.

    For me the landing pads were fairly simple, the hardest part was trying to get even thickness when ironing but I was being impatient and trying to iron too many pads at once.

    Like I said I want to try punching the rings out of a rubber sheet (o2dazone's mod) but that will be a future project for me.

    I don't know that there is a 'best' method as a lot of it will come down to personal preference on the feel and also it will depend on which mod you think you could perform properly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 07:00:29
    I think I'd be least likely to make mistakes with the dental bands, but that has such a bad reputation for altering the feel of the keys too much that I don't want to do it. Instead, I think I'll go for the o2dazone method.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:59:20
    What are some keycaps that can be used on a QFR?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:03:15

    Quote from: Lain1911 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:59:20
    What are some keycaps that can be used on a QFR?

    QFR is standard ANSI TKL, so pretty much any modern set will work fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:03:30
    Quickfire Rapid :^)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:04:27
    Anything with Costar stabilizers ya?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:06:59

    Quote from: Lain1911 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:04:27
    Anything with Costar stabilizers ya?

    You can swap the Costar inserts into any MX compatible caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RoflCopter4 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:08:44
    I know there are a million and one threads on this so I won't make a new thread and just ask it here instead:

    I've been meaning to try out dental banding my HHKB for little while now, but considering I'd have to get the things from China and shipping takes forever I've been putting it off. That and the fact that I'm a bit worried by the idea of reducing the travel too much. I've seen conflicting things on this. To anyone who's done the dental band mod: how noticeable is the reduced travel? Is it annoying? Does it decrease the tactility a lot? Do you like it or did it dive you to go back to stock?

    I feel like I've read every thread I could find on this and couldn't find a satisfactory answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:13:39
    I have GH spring lube, its a thick lube, of all the videos I've seen, the guys have such a thinlike lube (oily) that they can just "dip" the spring, however this spring lube is too thick to do that, how does one apply this properly?  When I lube the springs with this lube the three outmost rings in the spring (the condensed ones, ones right next to each other) get "muddled" with the lube.  Also does one need to lube every bit of the spring or only the top/bottom, and if you need to only lube one ends is that because the lube becomes spread when the spring is depressed?  Lastly, does the spring become completely depressed when used in a keyswitch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 15:10:42
    Quote from: RoflCopter4 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:08:44
    I know there are a million and one threads on this so I won't make a new thread and just ask it here instead:

    I've been meaning to try out dental banding my HHKB for little while now, but considering I'd have to get the things from China and shipping takes forever I've been putting it off. That and the fact that I'm a bit worried by the idea of reducing the travel too much. I've seen conflicting things on this. To anyone who's done the dental band mod: how noticeable is the reduced travel? Is it annoying? Does it decrease the tactility a lot? Do you like it or did it dive you to go back to stock?

    I feel like I've read every thread I could find on this and couldn't find a satisfactory answer.

    I can't tell you from personal experience, but there are two alternate methods that I know of (discussed earlier in the same page on this thread).

    o2dazone's method (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40582)
    spiceBar's method (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65853)
    spiceBar's method in more detail (http://imgur.com/a/JUwMi)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:14:09
    What keyboard should I look for if I want to try Hall Effect switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:38:09
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:04:27
    Anything with Costar stabilizers ya?

    Maybe to clarify, the keyboard comes with Costar stabilisers, including the stabiliser inserts on the stock keycaps.

    When you swap keycaps you need to remove the stabiliser inserts from the longer keys (e.g. Shift, Enter, Backspace) and put them into the corresponding new keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:48:34
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:14:09
    What keyboard should I look for if I want to try Hall Effect switch?
    Maybe HaaTa can tell you. I think he bought them all. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:58:01
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:48:34
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:14:09
    What keyboard should I look for if I want to try Hall Effect switch?
    Maybe HaaTa can tell you. I think he bought them all. ;)

    dorkvader has a few too!  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:09:15
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:58:01
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:48:34
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:14:09
    What keyboard should I look for if I want to try Hall Effect switch?
    Maybe HaaTa can tell you. I think he bought them all. ;)

    dorkvader has a few too!  :))

     :)) Thanks.  Will ask them for more information
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 March 2015, 21:18:28
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:13:39
    I have GH spring lube, its a thick lube, of all the videos I've seen, the guys have such a thinlike lube (oily) that they can just "dip" the spring, however this spring lube is too thick to do that, how does one apply this properly?  When I lube the springs with this lube the three outmost rings in the spring (the condensed ones, ones right next to each other) get "muddled" with the lube.  Also does one need to lube every bit of the spring or only the top/bottom, and if you need to only lube one ends is that because the lube becomes spread when the spring is depressed?  Lastly, does the spring become completely depressed when used in a keyswitch?
    good question, anyone has an answer?

    p.s. where is BluBar, he used to be one of the most prolific posters in this thread

    man that is some of the pettiest drama ever
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 03 March 2015, 21:39:16
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:13:39
    I have GH spring lube, its a thick lube, of all the videos I've seen, the guys have such a thinlike lube (oily) that they can just "dip" the spring, however this spring lube is too thick to do that, how does one apply this properly?  When I lube the springs with this lube the three outmost rings in the spring (the condensed ones, ones right next to each other) get "muddled" with the lube.  Also does one need to lube every bit of the spring or only the top/bottom, and if you need to only lube one ends is that because the lube becomes spread when the spring is depressed?  Lastly, does the spring become completely depressed when used in a keyswitch?

    I can't say about the GH spring lube, but I think most of the people you see in videos dipping their springs in the thinner lube are using Victorinox Oil.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 March 2015, 22:02:28
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 03 March 2015, 15:10:42
    Quote from: RoflCopter4 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:08:44
    I know there are a million and one threads on this so I won't make a new thread and just ask it here instead:

    I've been meaning to try out dental banding my HHKB for little while now, but considering I'd have to get the things from China and shipping takes forever I've been putting it off. That and the fact that I'm a bit worried by the idea of reducing the travel too much. I've seen conflicting things on this. To anyone who's done the dental band mod: how noticeable is the reduced travel? Is it annoying? Does it decrease the tactility a lot? Do you like it or did it dive you to go back to stock?

    I feel like I've read every thread I could find on this and couldn't find a satisfactory answer.

    I can't tell you from personal experience, but there are two alternate methods that I know of (discussed earlier in the same page on this thread).

    o2dazone's method (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40582)
    spiceBar's method (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65853)
    spiceBar's method in more detail (http://imgur.com/a/JUwMi)

    Since it's a personal preference thing, you won't get a nice concise answer here either. Luckily, the dental bands are reversible. I suggest trying them first and seeing how you like them. If it doesn't work for you, try another method such as the ones above.


    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:13:39
    1) I have GH spring lube, its a thick lube, of all the videos I've seen, the guys have such a thinlike lube (oily) that they can just "dip" the spring, however this spring lube is too thick to do that, how does one apply this properly?  When I lube the springs with this lube the three outmost rings in the spring (the condensed ones, ones right next to each other) get "muddled" with the lube. 
    2) Also does one need to lube every bit of the spring or only the top/bottom, and if you need to only lube one ends is that because the lube becomes spread when the spring is depressed? 
    3) Lastly, does the spring become completely depressed when used in a keyswitch?

    1) Get thinner lube? Or just live with it being a little more viscious. Should work fine.
    2) Doesn't matter tbh. If i were to lube my springs, I'd dump in in a bag, dump some lube in there, then shake/roll it around so everything is covered. Then use springs. Easy.
    3) Check out this video by BlueBar (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66680.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 04 March 2015, 01:04:30
    Speaking of lube, I've heard that it would be a good idea to lube the stabilisers in my HHKB while doing the silence mod, so I'll look into that. Does anyone know what type of lube would be ideal?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 04 March 2015, 02:33:11
    Does switching the spring and top case of vintage black s affect the feeling? Thinking of getting gateron clear tops
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 04 March 2015, 03:14:17
    Quote from: Ludovician on Wed, 04 March 2015, 01:04:30
    Speaking of lube, I've heard that it would be a good idea to lube the stabilisers in my HHKB while doing the silence mod, so I'll look into that. Does anyone know what type of lube would be ideal?

    http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant)

    Not sure the difference in feel thin vs thick for stabs. Personal preference I guess!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 04 March 2015, 03:37:05
    I was hoping to find something local (at least in the same country as me) so it doesn't cost an absurd amount. Basically what I need to know is what properties I need to look for. Viscosity seems to be a matter of preference, but what else is relevant? I saw someone saying I'd need to look for some sort of grease that's safe to use with plastic, but is there anything else I need to look out for?

    thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 04 March 2015, 03:41:11
    I was told Krytox GPL 206/1506 mixed works best. I have tried it in my boards and I agree.
    Not sure what else to look out for. You can probably find those.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 04 March 2015, 03:51:44
    I found an Australian store that sells Super Lube. Is that stuff a good option?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 04 March 2015, 07:24:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 March 2015, 22:02:28

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:13:39
    1) I have GH spring lube, its a thick lube, of all the videos I've seen, the guys have such a thinlike lube (oily) that they can just "dip" the spring, however this spring lube is too thick to do that, how does one apply this properly?  When I lube the springs with this lube the three outmost rings in the spring (the condensed ones, ones right next to each other) get "muddled" with the lube. 
    2) Also does one need to lube every bit of the spring or only the top/bottom, and if you need to only lube one ends is that because the lube becomes spread when the spring is depressed? 
    3) Lastly, does the spring become completely depressed when used in a keyswitch?

    1) Get thinner lube? Or just live with it being a little more viscious. Should work fine.
    2) Doesn't matter tbh. If i were to lube my springs, I'd dump in in a bag, dump some lube in there, then shake/roll it around so everything is covered. Then use springs. Easy.
    3) Check out this video by BlueBar (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66680.0).

    I was thinking that maybe I should just do the middle of the spring, that is, everything else than the 3 tight circles on both ends, and use a pencil to distribute it.  My goal is to eliminate ping.  Hope this will work, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 04 March 2015, 08:23:09
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 04 March 2015, 07:24:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 March 2015, 22:02:28

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:13:39
    1) I have GH spring lube, its a thick lube, of all the videos I've seen, the guys have such a thinlike lube (oily) that they can just "dip" the spring, however this spring lube is too thick to do that, how does one apply this properly?  When I lube the springs with this lube the three outmost rings in the spring (the condensed ones, ones right next to each other) get "muddled" with the lube. 
    2) Also does one need to lube every bit of the spring or only the top/bottom, and if you need to only lube one ends is that because the lube becomes spread when the spring is depressed? 
    3) Lastly, does the spring become completely depressed when used in a keyswitch?

    1) Get thinner lube? Or just live with it being a little more viscious. Should work fine.
    2) Doesn't matter tbh. If i were to lube my springs, I'd dump in in a bag, dump some lube in there, then shake/roll it around so everything is covered. Then use springs. Easy.
    3) Check out this video by BlueBar (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66680.0).

    I was thinking that maybe I should just do the middle of the spring, that is, everything else than the 3 tight circles on both ends, and use a pencil to distribute it.  My goal is to eliminate ping.  Hope this will work, thanks!

    If eliminating ping is your goal, the only part that needs to be lubed is the ends of the spring.  The reason is as you type you induce high frequency vibrations into the plate, pcb, and case.  This in turn causes the springs to vibrate in the switch housing on the post at the bottom and on the bottom of the stem.   The lube here provides just enough stiction to stop the spring ends from vibrating against the housing and the stem.

    On a side note for myself. 

    1.Are old keyboards the only source for buzzers and solenoids to be used with xwhatsit controller? 

    2.I know that xwhatsit has driver boards to use with them, but has anyone designed a new solenoid and or buzzer that can be made to use with them? 

    3.If sourcing from old is required, which boards do I want to keep an eye out for?  Are these parts high failure components or do they usually have long fruitful lives?

    Melvang
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 04 March 2015, 09:36:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 04 March 2015, 08:23:09

    If eliminating ping is your goal, the only part that needs to be lubed is the ends of the spring.  The reason is as you type you induce high frequency vibrations into the plate, pcb, and case.  This in turn causes the springs to vibrate in the switch housing on the post at the bottom and on the bottom of the stem.   The lube here provides just enough stiction to stop the spring ends from vibrating against the housing and the stem.


    Melvang

    Do i lube the inner or outer rings or both?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 March 2015, 09:37:45


    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 04 March 2015, 09:36:21
    Do i lube the inner or outer rings or both?

    If you're going to lube it you might as well do both.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 04 March 2015, 21:15:41
    Does the Nerd 60 PCB (v2) support a split (1x1 + 1x1) Backspace?

    It kinda looks like it does and it's also seems possible in the Nerdy GUI keymapper...
    Would be aesome if someone could clarify!  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 March 2015, 07:39:05
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Wed, 04 March 2015, 21:15:41
    Does the Nerd 60 PCB (v2) support a split (1x1 + 1x1) Backspace?

    It kinda looks like it does and it's also seems possible in the Nerdy GUI keymapper...
    Would be aesome if someone could clarify!  :thumb:

    I honestly have no idea but you can ask GON himself (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43915.540).

    Edit: A quick search reveals the answer is yes:

    (http://i60.tinypic.com/wiud61.jpg)
    Dustinhxc (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57225.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:58:26
    Building a keyboard with a plate, should I cut the pegs of my PCb mounted switchs (they are gaterons if that matters).
    And why should I ? should I not?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:02:57
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:58:26
    Building a keyboard with a plate, should I cut the pegs of my PCb mounted switchs (they are gaterons if that matters).
    And why should I ? should I not?

    Only cut them off if the PCB doesn't have holes for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:10:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:02:57
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:58:26
    Building a keyboard with a plate, should I cut the pegs of my PCb mounted switchs (they are gaterons if that matters).
    And why should I ? should I not?

    Only cut them off if the PCB doesn't have holes for them.
    Ok thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:37:36
    I am figuring out what resistors I need for me next build.

    I have read a bunch of this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0

    Here is what I have so far.

    (5.05 - forward_voltage)/Amps = Ohms

    The forward voltage of my LEDs are in the ballpark of 3, but I know this ranges all the way down to about 1.9 with some of the red and yellow LEDs.

    I am trying to figure out how many milliAmps I am looking for.  I know that most of the LEDs 'support' up to 20mAmps, but I have heard that is crazy bright.  I think some people have been targeting closer to 6mAmps.  Is that in the right ballpark?

    I am trying get an idea of how many mAmps is good for brightness on a keyboard.  Thanks...

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:13:05
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:37:36
    I am figuring out what resistors I need for me next build.

    I have read a bunch of this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0

    Here is what I have so far.

    (5.05 - forward_voltage)/Amps = Ohms

    The forward voltage of my LEDs are in the ballpark of 3, but I know this ranges all the way down to about 1.9 with some of the red and yellow LEDs.

    I am trying to figure out how many milliAmps I am looking for.  I know that most of the LEDs 'support' up to 20mAmps, but I have heard that is crazy bright.  I think some people have been targeting closer to 6mAmps.  Is that in the right ballpark?

    I am trying get an idea of how many mAmps is good for brightness on a keyboard.  Thanks...

    BTW, I found this website which is pretty useful for figuring out what size resistors you want: http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz

    I just need to figure out how many forward mAmps I should be targeting.  I believe it should probably be in the range of 1-6 mA.  If I remember correctly my Sprit boards had something like 2 mA forward voltage and it worked pretty well.  If I can get some validation that these numbers are realistic that would help.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 05 March 2015, 18:55:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 05 March 2015, 13:02:57
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:58:26
    Building a keyboard with a plate, should I cut the pegs of my PCb mounted switchs (they are gaterons if that matters).
    And why should I ? should I not?

    Only cut them off if the PCB doesn't have holes for them.


    It was mentioned before tho that gateron switches might be slightly difficult to fit in which can for example be solved by sanding them just incase you have that issue...

    For reference check the Gateron group buy thread] or some of the reviews linked there! =)

     (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.0)
    More
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 26 January 2015, 19:06:04
    First off, everything about the smoothness was absolutely true. The blacks felt great, and the blues were soft. One thing to note though, as Zeal mentioned in his Gateron build thread, these are somewhat difficult to fit into the PCB, the problem seems to arise from the PCB mounting stabs being either too thick or too far apart, which can be solved by sanding them slightly. The plastic used in the housing seems to be more flexible than that used for Cherry switches; the clips on the tops were much easier to pry apart. Keycaps also fit very tightly to the Gateron stems, comparable to Alps switches.


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 March 2015, 07:39:05
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Wed, 04 March 2015, 21:15:41
    Does the Nerd 60 PCB (v2) support a split (1x1 + 1x1) Backspace?

    It kinda looks like it does and it's also seems possible in the Nerdy GUI keymapper...
    Would be aesome if someone could clarify!  :thumb:

    I honestly have no idea but you can ask GON himself (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43915.540).

    Edit: A quick search reveals the answer is yes:

    Show Image
    (http://i60.tinypic.com/wiud61.jpg)

    Dustinhxc (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57225.0)


    Also thx a lot CPT! =)
    I couldn't find any infos on this...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:04:01
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:13:05
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:37:36
    I am figuring out what resistors I need for me next build.
    If I can get some validation that these numbers are realistic that would help.  :)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50865.msg1116486#msg1116486

    According to this thread, looks like 2mA is fine.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.msg1176133#msg1176133

    This post might help you as well. I don't know what a normal value is but it seems like you're fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Fri, 06 March 2015, 16:13:46
    I clipped all the cherry stabs on my cherry board but for some reason two of them still feel mushy.  I followed blubar's guide video on how to do it, any idea of what I could be doing wrong?  Is filing important? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 March 2015, 18:13:20
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Fri, 06 March 2015, 16:13:46
    I clipped all the cherry stabs on my cherry board but for some reason two of them still feel mushy.  I followed blubar's guide video on how to do it, any idea of what I could be doing wrong?  Is filing important?
    Take a picture and show us your work? Hard to say without seeing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Sat, 07 March 2015, 10:34:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:04:01
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:13:05
    Quote from: swill on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:37:36
    I am figuring out what resistors I need for me next build.
    If I can get some validation that these numbers are realistic that would help.  :)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50865.msg1116486#msg1116486

    According to this thread, looks like 2mA is fine.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.msg1176133#msg1176133

    This post might help you as well. I don't know what a normal value is but it seems like you're fine.
    Great. Thanks for those links, I had not read those.

    I ended up buying 500x 1k ohm and 500x 750 ohm, so I should be good to go for a while.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:23:16
    Every few months I need some springs.  So where I can I get some springs without having to participate in a group buy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:26:54
    Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:23:16
    Every few months I need some springs.  So where I can I get some springs without having to participate in a group buy?
    mechanicalkeyboards.com and zealpc.net
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:34:14
    Was there a numpad that matched "the cheat"?

    Also, does anyone know if a pink "the cheat" does exist?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:41:30
    Quote from: Halverson on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:34:14
    Was there a numpad that matched "the cheat"?

    i don't think so, no

    Quote
    Also, does anyone know if a pink "the cheat" does exist?

    i think i've seen one, but you could always just re-anodize
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:54:13

    Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:41:30
    Quote from: Halverson on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:34:14
    Was there a numpad that matched "the cheat"?

    i don't think so, no

    Quote
    Also, does anyone know if a pink "the cheat" does exist?

    i think i've seen one, but you could always just re-anodize

    Lame.

    Yea, that's what they always say. Yet here I am with a "red" LZ GH.

    Oh well, I didn't need to look for new stuff anyway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 07 March 2015, 14:35:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 March 2015, 18:13:20
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Fri, 06 March 2015, 16:13:46
    I clipped all the cherry stabs on my cherry board but for some reason two of them still feel mushy.  I followed blubar's guide video on how to do it, any idea of what I could be doing wrong?  Is filing important?
    Take a picture and show us your work? Hard to say without seeing.

    I put some lube on it and it seemed to fix it, thanks!.

    Another question: I see mechanicalkeyboards.com now has springs in stock, but they have the nonkorean measurements on them.  What would be a 55g korean spring, a 45g with them? 

    And since I managed to break one of my stabiliser during my last mod I need a replacement.  Is mouser the only place to get cherry stabilizers? The shipping is horrendous.

    This how my checkout with mouser looks:

    MERCHANDISE TOTAL:
     1,59 €
    DELIVERY CHARGE:
    20,00 €
     ORDER TOTAL:
     21,59 €

    Pretty brutal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 07 March 2015, 14:43:53
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 07 March 2015, 14:35:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 March 2015, 18:13:20
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Fri, 06 March 2015, 16:13:46
    I clipped all the cherry stabs on my cherry board but for some reason two of them still feel mushy.  I followed blubar's guide video on how to do it, any idea of what I could be doing wrong?  Is filing important?
    Take a picture and show us your work? Hard to say without seeing.

    I put some lube on it and it seemed to fix it, thanks!.

    Another question: I see mechanicalkeyboards.com now has springs in stock, but they have the nonkorean measurements on them.  What would be a 55g korean spring, a 45g with them? 

    And since I managed to break one of my stabiliser during my last mod I need a replacement.  Is mouser the only place to get cherry stabilizers? The shipping is horrendous.

    This how my checkout with mouser looks:

    MERCHANDISE TOTAL:
     1,59 €
    DELIVERY CHARGE:
    20,00 €
     ORDER TOTAL:
     21,59 €

    Pretty brutal.

    On the springs you are most likely correct.  Korean springs are measured at bottom out, but cherry measures it at the actuation point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 07 March 2015, 14:51:08
    get the 40g springs. 45g is 62g on Korean scale
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 07 March 2015, 14:57:30
    Is it possible to find Realforce key sets at retail, or close to anymore? If so, where?

    How can I get my hands on an OTD board? Do they still run new models, or are they mostly older ones still in circulation?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Sat, 07 March 2015, 17:17:36
    When you bottom out on MX switches, what is the keycap actually hitting? I'm guessing it's either the keycaps hitting the plate (on a keyboard with a plate), and not the keycaps hitting the switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 07 March 2015, 17:47:01
    Quote from: Karura on Sat, 07 March 2015, 17:17:36
    When you bottom out on MX switches, what is the keycap actually hitting? I'm guessing it's either the keycaps hitting the plate (on a keyboard with a plate), and not the keycaps hitting the switch?

    It's the bottom of the stem hitting the bottom of the switch housing.


    Edit: Actually, it seems that it's the underside of the keycap hitting the top of the switch housing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vindaon on Sat, 07 March 2015, 23:40:51
    Is this Hammer (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57618.0) plate the only universal 60% plate that supports switch top removal without getting one cut yourself?

    I looked at the one on GON's website (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html) and it looks like it has some shallow cuts on the top and bottom. But the notches don't look like any other plate I've seen with switch top removal or on swill's plate building tool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 March 2015, 00:30:16
    Quote from: vindaon on Sat, 07 March 2015, 23:40:51
    Is this Hammer (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57618.0) plate the only universal 60% plate that supports switch top removal without getting one cut yourself?

    I looked at the one on GON's website (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html) and it looks like it has some shallow cuts on the top and bottom. But the notches don't look like any other plate I've seen with switch top removal or on swill's plate building tool.

    GON's doesn't support switch removal. There are other 60% plates that will support it including The_Beast's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 March 2015, 10:53:53
    So the multimeter reads  _0.85_ Amps on the 10Amp setting..  but I had it on 200ma setting by mistake, and it still gives me a reading, an _8.5_    , Is that a meaningless measurement?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 March 2015, 07:34:28
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 March 2015, 10:53:53
    So the multimeter reads  _0.85_ Amps on the 10Amp setting..  but I had it on 200ma setting by mistake, and it still gives me a reading, an _8.5_    , Is that a meaningless measurement?

    No it's reading correctly. The markings correspond with the prefix you want the reading to be in. So on the 10A setting, you're reading the value in Amps. On the 200ma setting, you're reading in microamps. Hence the change from .85 to 8.5.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 07:56:02
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 March 2015, 10:53:53
    So the multimeter reads  _0.85_ Amps on the 10Amp setting..  but I had it on 200ma setting by mistake, and it still gives me a reading, an _8.5_    , Is that a meaningless measurement?

    Something was wrong, .85 A = 850 mA > 200 mA limit, so I think it was a meaningless measurement, but the good thing is that the fuse was not burnt because the current exceeded the limit of that setting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 March 2015, 07:58:59
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 March 2015, 10:53:53
    So the multimeter reads  _0.85_ Amps on the 10Amp setting..  but I had it on 200ma setting by mistake, and it still gives me a reading, an _8.5_    , Is that a meaningless measurement?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 March 2015, 07:34:28
    No it's reading correctly. The markings correspond with the prefix you want the reading to be in. So on the 10A setting, you're reading the value in Amps. On the 200ma setting, you're reading in microamps. Hence the change from .85 to 8.5.

    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 07:56:02
    Something was wrong, .85 A = 850 mA > 200 mA limit, so I think it was a meaningless measurement but the good thing is that the fuse was not burnt because the current was exceed the limit of that setting.

    Thanks phoenix1234. I can't math or work a multimeter :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 09:57:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 March 2015, 07:58:59
    Thanks phoenix1234. I can't math or work a multimeter :(
    Not a big deal :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 09 March 2015, 11:18:57
    http://i.imgur.com/hLiBcyn.jpg

    This guy got hisesc key from originative and doesn't know why his esc is higher profile than the rest.  Does Originative have a batch of esc keys which are F profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 March 2015, 11:20:39
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 09 March 2015, 11:18:57
    http://i.imgur.com/hLiBcyn.jpg

    This guy got hisesc key from originative and doesn't know why his esc is higher profile than the rest.  Does Originative have a batch of esc keys which are F profile?

    Could simply be that he didn't sit the keycap down all the way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Mon, 09 March 2015, 11:24:53
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 09 March 2015, 11:18:57
    http://i.imgur.com/hLiBcyn.jpg

    This guy got hisesc key from originative and doesn't know why his esc is higher profile than the rest.  Does Originative have a batch of esc keys which are F profile?
    Pictures are from zennasyndroxx  (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=36383) you could ask him/her.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 09 March 2015, 13:22:20
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 09 March 2015, 11:18:57
    http://i.imgur.com/hLiBcyn.jpg

    This guy got hisesc key from originative and doesn't know why his esc is higher profile than the rest.  Does Originative have a batch of esc keys which are F profile?
    Pictures are from zennasyndroxx  (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=36383) you could ask him/her.
    [/quote]


    http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ydx4o/silver_grey_duck_octagon/

    Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 09 March 2015, 11:24:53

    I already asked him here

    http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ydx4o/silver_grey_duck_octagon/

    his answer:

    This is still a question I have no answer to. I got this red ESC from originative, maybe one profile higher? :l but other gmk escape I have is on the same profile



    I'm asking cause I really want and R0/F row gmk keys on my 75% so they are easier to reach fast when playing starcraft 2, if there is indeed a batch of F row esc keys with originitive I will surely buy a whole lot of them to fill my top row :D  (Would be weird that he had F row gmk keys and I wouldn't have heard about it before though)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 March 2015, 14:00:18
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 09 March 2015, 13:22:20
    I already asked him here

    http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ydx4o/silver_grey_duck_octagon/

    his answer:

    This is still a question I have no answer to. I got this red ESC from originative, maybe one profile higher? :l but other gmk escape I have is on the same profile

    I'm asking cause I really want and R0/F row gmk keys on my 75% so they are easier to reach fast when playing starcraft 2, if there is indeed a batch of F row esc keys with originitive I will surely buy a whole lot of them to fill my top row :D  (Would be weird that he had F row gmk keys and I wouldn't have heard about it before though)

    I am not aware of any profile differences that Sherry had made. Billnye and photekq might be able to chime in though. I do know that Sherry was fond of making some unique stuff to make his personal mark on things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 19:48:29
    Sorry this is an off topic simple question:
    How do I get my avatar to appear in the upper left of the homepage? It used to be there, but it hasn't appeared in a long time, thx!  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:45:40
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 19:48:29
    Sorry this is an off topic simple question:
    How do I get my avatar to appear in the upper left of the homepage? It used to be there, but it hasn't appeared in a long time, thx!  ;D
    I'm on Tapatalk right now haha. Isn't there a collapse triangle you can click to expand it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:46:39
    Quote from: Synjin on Mon, 09 March 2015, 14:28:12
    This is such an amazing idea. I sure wish something like this existed when i joined GH.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:45:40
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 10 March 2015, 19:48:29
    Sorry this is an off topic simple question:
    How do I get my avatar to appear in the upper left of the homepage? It used to be there, but it hasn't appeared in a long time, thx!  ;D
    I'm on Tapatalk right now haha. Isn't there a collapse triangle you can click to expand it?
    Oh my god, you have no idea how big of an idiot I feel right now. Thank you so much JD!!!!!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 10 March 2015, 22:41:24
    Is there a setting to make it so that you don't auto watch topics when you reply to them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:02:14
    Quote from: radio_killah on Tue, 10 March 2015, 22:41:24
    Is there a setting to make it so that you don't auto watch topics when you reply to them?

    No.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:32:09
    Are international shipping rates pretty standard no matter the country?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:34:10
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:32:09
    Are international shipping rates pretty standard no matter the country?


    Varies mostly by weight from when I shipped out my batch of enablers.  When I got my estimate, all countries were the same based on the same weight though.  This was my experience though.  I had stuff going to places ranging from Canada and Mexico to Europe, to Australia and New Zealand.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:35:55
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:34:10
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:32:09
    Are international shipping rates pretty standard no matter the country?


    Varies mostly by weight from when I shipped out my batch of enablers.  When I got my estimate, all countries were the same based on the same weight though.  This was my experience though.  I had stuff going to places ranging from Canada and Mexico to Europe, to Australia and New Zealand.
    Alright, thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 March 2015, 07:43:46
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:32:09
    Are international shipping rates pretty standard no matter the country?

    From the US? Yes. The only exception being that shipping to Canada is slightly cheaper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 11 March 2015, 08:40:40
    If I'm bending spacebar stabilizer wires myself with one of those fancy bendy tools I bought but have never used, how do I now where to make the 2 bends?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 March 2015, 08:53:43
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Wed, 11 March 2015, 08:40:40
    If I'm bending spacebar stabilizer wires myself with one of those fancy bendy tools I bought but have never used, how do I now where to make the 2 bends?

    Use a pre bent one as a guide and experiment?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 March 2015, 08:55:27

    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Wed, 11 March 2015, 08:40:40
    If I'm bending spacebar stabilizer wires myself with one of those fancy bendy tools I bought but have never used, how do I now where to make the 2 bends?

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 11 March 2015, 10:14:23
    Thanks guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: choc on Wed, 11 March 2015, 12:09:08
    Excuse me, but what is the stabilizer?

    I am new here and don't understand this terminology which is common in geekhack.

    I've seen so many people say sth like costar stabilizer, cherry stabilizer, and so on :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 11 March 2015, 13:05:45
    Stabilizers are used on wider keys like the spacebar to keep the keys from tilting sideways when pushed on the sides, so their job is pretty much as the name suggests stabilizing keys and providing a uniform feedback on the hole key. =)

    Think of a non stabilized spacebar with only one switch in the middle for example which would probably tilt like hell (and eventually not even reach actuation point of the switch) if you don't hit it dead center.

    A stabilizer is much like a lever on each side of the key connected by a metal rod, so technically one side cant move more then the other without a twisting on the metal rod connecting them.
    Therefore even if you apply pressure on for example the very left of the space bar it should (be forced to) stay pretty much horizontal while being pressed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 March 2015, 14:01:03
    Quote from: choc on Wed, 11 March 2015, 12:09:08
    Excuse me, but what is the stabilizer?

    I am new here and don't understand this terminology which is common in geekhack.

    I've seen so many people say sth like costar stabilizer, cherry stabilizer, and so on :confused:
    In addition to FoC-ToW's great explanation, that's why the stabilizers are called "leveling kits"  by Cherry.

    Costar and Cherry are 2 different types of stabilizers for MX. Cherry stabilizers then come in PCB or plate mount.

    From the GH60 OP, here's a picture of them.

    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/11/4ec02f04168d666ad1d5b976f0cbd6ad.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: choc on Thu, 12 March 2015, 03:28:58
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Wed, 11 March 2015, 13:05:45
    Stabilizers are used on wider keys like the spacebar to keep the keys from tilting sideways when pushed on the sides, so their job is pretty much as the name suggests stabilizing keys and providing a uniform feedback on the hole key. =)

    Think of a non stabilized spacebar with only one switch in the middle for example which would probably tilt like hell (and eventually not even reach actuation point of the switch) if you don't hit it dead center.

    A stabilizer is much like a lever on each side of the key connected by a metal rod, so technically one side cant move more then the other without a twisting on the metal rod connecting them.
    Therefore even if you apply pressure on for example the very left of the space bar it should (be forced to) stay pretty much horizontal while being pressed.

    wow, thx for so detailed explanation.

    So stabilizers are usually used for balancing long/large keys when they are up and down, right? And they usually located at both left and right side beneath those long/large keys. Does the metal rod belong to a part of the stabilizers of that long/large key?

    Oh, I've also seen some keyboard's spacebar works without any metal rod. In general, with/without the metal rod, which is better?


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 March 2015, 14:01:03
    Quote from: choc on Wed, 11 March 2015, 12:09:08
    Excuse me, but what is the stabilizer?

    I am new here and don't understand this terminology which is common in geekhack.

    I've seen so many people say sth like costar stabilizer, cherry stabilizer, and so on :confused:
    In addition to FoC-ToW's great explanation, that's why the stabilizers are called "leveling kits"  by Cherry.

    Costar and Cherry are 2 different types of stabilizers for MX. Cherry stabilizers then come in PCB or plate mount.

    From the GH60 OP, here's a picture of them.

    Show Image
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/11/4ec02f04168d666ad1d5b976f0cbd6ad.jpg)




    aha, I think I may get it.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: morpheus on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:04:25
    Will Matias make MX compatible stem based keyboards in the near future?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:05:30
    Quote from: morpheus on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:04:25
    Will Matias make MX compatible stem based keyboards in the near future?

    Rumor is yes but there's no definite information. Matias has hinted at it.

    Quote from: choc on Thu, 12 March 2015, 03:28:58
    1) So stabilizers are usually used for balancing long/large keys when they are up and down, right?
    2) And they usually located at both left and right side beneath those long/large keys.
    3) Does the metal rod belong to a part of the stabilizers of that long/large key?
    4) Oh, I've also seen some keyboard's spacebar works without any metal rod. In general, with/without the metal rod, which is better?

    1) Yes
    2) They go on the shifts, enter, backspace, spacebar, and the enter on the numpad if you have one.
    3) The rod is on the stabilizers.
    4) Doesn't work as well as a stabilized bar. It can rattle and feel off centered when you hit the spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: choc on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:33:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:05:30

    Quote from: choc on Thu, 12 March 2015, 03:28:58
    1) So stabilizers are usually used for balancing long/large keys when they are up and down, right?
    2) And they usually located at both left and right side beneath those long/large keys.
    3) Does the metal rod belong to a part of the stabilizers of that long/large key?
    4) Oh, I've also seen some keyboard's spacebar works without any metal rod. In general, with/without the metal rod, which is better?

    1) Yes
    2) They go on the shifts, enter, backspace, spacebar, and the enter on the numpad if you have one.
    3) The rod is on the stabilizers.
    4) Doesn't work as well as a stabilized bar. It can rattle and feel off centered when you hit the spacebar.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:38:02
    Pardon me, but has there been a guide to flashing firmware? (preferably with troubleshoot) I can't seem to find a straightforward guide and I'm having troubles flashing :/. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:01:10
    Quote from: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:38:02
    Pardon me, but has there been a guide to flashing firmware? (preferably with troubleshoot) I can't seem to find a straightforward guide and I'm having troubles flashing :/.

    Not that I know of (was looking myself recently because I had a problem). What seems to be the issue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:36:17
    Dunno where to ask, but is there any solution to fix sticky razer key (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERKt6St4xco)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:39:20
    Quote from: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:36:17
    Dunno where to ask, but is there any solution to fix sticky razer key (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERKt6St4xco)?
    Did you spill something onto the keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:02:51
    ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:39:20
    Quote from: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:36:17
    Dunno where to ask, but is there any solution to fix sticky razer key (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERKt6St4xco)?
    Did you spill something onto the keyboard?
    Nope, It was since I got it. + Some keys have some weird noises. Example. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNHS3rQB4bI)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:04:54
    Quote from: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:02:51
    ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:39:20
    Quote from: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:36:17
    Dunno where to ask, but is there any solution to fix sticky razer key (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERKt6St4xco)?
    Did you spill something onto the keyboard?
    Nope, It was since I got it. + Some keys have some weird noises. Example. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNHS3rQB4bI)
    If it's new I'd use RMA
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:10:02
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:04:54
    Quote from: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:02:51
    ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:39:20
    Quote from: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:36:17
    Dunno where to ask, but is there any solution to fix sticky razer key (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERKt6St4xco)?
    Did you spill something onto the keyboard?
    Nope, It was since I got it. + Some keys have some weird noises. Example. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNHS3rQB4bI)
    If it's new I'd use RMA
    It's not new, so that's not an option. At least I don't have any warranty documents instead of "Razer Greetings Package".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:39:58
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:01:10
    Quote from: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:38:02
    Pardon me, but has there been a guide to flashing firmware? (preferably with troubleshoot) I can't seem to find a straightforward guide and I'm having troubles flashing :/.

    Not that I know of (was looking myself recently because I had a problem). What seems to be the issue?

    I tried using dfuprogrammer and FLIP but both failed to detect my board (GHpad) i installed the drivers provided for the GHpad and assume that the FLIP software comes with drivers pre installed. Are there other drivers for the ATmega32u4?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:44:42

    Quote from: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:39:58
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:01:10
    Quote from: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:38:02
    Pardon me, but has there been a guide to flashing firmware? (preferably with troubleshoot) I can't seem to find a straightforward guide and I'm having troubles flashing :/.

    Not that I know of (was looking myself recently because I had a problem). What seems to be the issue?

    I tried using dfuprogrammer and FLIP but both failed to detect my board (GHpad) i installed the drivers provided for the GHpad and assume that the FLIP software comes with drivers pre installed. Are there other drivers for the ATmega32u4?

    Just to be sure, you did press the button to jump to bootloader, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 March 2015, 16:48:10
    Quote from: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:36:17
    Dunno where to ask, but is there any solution to fix sticky razer key (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERKt6St4xco)?
    Swap the switch, attempt to clean it by flooding it with isopropyl alcohol, RMA

    You have to desolder to swap it. If you're not comfortable with doing solder or desoldering there's people on GH who may be able to help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 16:48:55
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:44:42

    Quote from: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:39:58
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:01:10
    Quote from: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:38:02
    Pardon me, but has there been a guide to flashing firmware? (preferably with troubleshoot) I can't seem to find a straightforward guide and I'm having troubles flashing :/.

    Not that I know of (was looking myself recently because I had a problem). What seems to be the issue?

    I tried using dfuprogrammer and FLIP but both failed to detect my board (GHpad) i installed the drivers provided for the GHpad and assume that the FLIP software comes with drivers pre installed. Are there other drivers for the ATmega32u4?

    Just to be sure, you did press the button to jump to bootloader, right?

    Yup I did  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:05:53
    Quote from: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:38:02
    Pardon me, but has there been a guide to flashing firmware? (preferably with troubleshoot) I can't seem to find a straightforward guide and I'm having troubles flashing :/.

    Perhaps this guide from nubbinator will help you (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61588.msg1439657#msg1439657). I realize it's not exactly for the software you're using so substitute in dfuprogrammer for the truecustom software.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:34:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:05:53
    Quote from: kakakowie on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:38:02
    Pardon me, but has there been a guide to flashing firmware? (preferably with troubleshoot) I can't seem to find a straightforward guide and I'm having troubles flashing :/.

    Perhaps this guide from nubbinator will help you (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61588.msg1439657#msg1439657). I realize it's not exactly for the software you're using substitute in dfuprogrammer for the truecustom software.

    Thanks for that. I had to uninstall the existing drivers as it was refusing to update.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:58:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 March 2015, 16:48:10
    Quote from: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:36:17
    Dunno where to ask, but is there any solution to fix sticky razer key (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERKt6St4xco)?
    Swap the switch, attempt to clean it by flooding it with isopropyl alcohol, RMA

    You have to desolder to swap it. If you're not comfortable with doing solder or desoldering there's people on GH who may be able to help.
    Thanks for the tips. Btw, did someone tried to disassemble Razer switches? Is it harder than cherry ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:58:57
    Quote from: Deadline-007 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 17:58:16
    Did someone tried to disassemble Razer switches? Is it harder than cherry ones?

    Probably the same method as opening as the Cherry switches. Can't imagine it would be much different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:32:59
    This may not be a simple question. How does one get into leading a group buy?

    The reason I'm asking is because I've got this Infinity keyboard on order, and it's going to be the most esoteric keyset I've ever owned: Matias ALPS caps in the Infinity Hacker layout. You can't really find any ALPS group buys out there. Is this something SP can do? I'd be willing to do the legwork to design a keyset that would be of broad enough interest to other Matias owners but also have special keys for the Infinity layout. I just really don't even know where to start.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:40:51
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:32:59
    This may not be a simple question. How does one get into leading a group buy?

    The reason I'm asking is because I've got this Infinity keyboard on order, and it's going to be the most esoteric keyset I've ever owned: Matias ALPS caps in the Infinity Hacker layout. You can't really find any ALPS group buys out there. Is this something SP can do? I'd be willing to do the legwork to design a keyset that would be of broad enough interest to other Matias owners but also have special keys for the Infinity layout. I just really don't even know where to start.

    You just run one. You figure out who's making stuff, collect the money, buy the stuff, and distribute the stuff to everyone. It's up to you to build your rep and figure out how you want to handle the money. There's not a lot of mystery. It's just a lot of work.

    For example: I wanted Geekhack themed t-shirts last year. I found a local printer that would source the shirts for me and print the logo I wanted. LastPilot hooked me up with a design. I did all the research to figure out the shirt I'd like, sizes, cost, how I'd distribute it, etc. Then I made a thread here to gather orders. Once the orders were in, I went to the shop to have them made. Then I shipped out all the shirts myself.

    Alps keycap GBs haven't been going well. Matias promised ANSI and ISO Alps keycap sets but I haven't seen much besides them being stoked at The Keyboard Co. Alps isn't very popular to begin with and Delta Blues failed (https://geekhack.org/?topic=62274.0).  Yes SP can do it but then you run into issues with the stabilizers, caps, and spacebars. Then people want to have the sets match their retro boards. Badwrench is currently trying to run his Alps Infinity mods (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68887.85) GB. Once again I'll try and support it but I'm not sure  how it will go. PMK definitely isn't my favorite platform for GBs (PMK aka Pimp My Keyboards is the GB site that SP has setup).

    Picking colors isn't the hard part. It's figuring how which keycaps to put into the set because of everyone's wildly different Alps needs/wants and finding someone to make the caps. AFAIK, there's only a few people making Alps caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:42:32
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:32:59
    This may not be a simple question. How does one get into leading a group buy?

    The reason I'm asking is because I've got this Infinity keyboard on order, and it's going to be the most esoteric keyset I've ever owned: Matias ALPS caps in the Infinity Hacker layout. You can't really find any ALPS group buys out there. Is this something SP can do? I'd be willing to do the legwork to design a keyset that would be of broad enough interest to other Matias owners but also have special keys for the Infinity layout. I just really don't even know where to start.


    A GB for an ALPS set (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62274.msg1645997#msg1645997) failed recently. You can read the thread to understand some of the reasons for its failure: ALPS are not very popular, and old ALPS keyboards have a variety of stabilizers that make very hard for a set to cover all of them. SP can manufacture caps with ALPS stems.


    About being a GB leader there are a few threads that discuss the topic, but you may give a try to the SP's pimp my keyboard site (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/), they take most of the load to run a GB.


    I hope this help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:55:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:40:51
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:32:59
    This may not be a simple question. How does one get into leading a group buy?

    The reason I'm asking is because I've got this Infinity keyboard on order, and it's going to be the most esoteric keyset I've ever owned: Matias ALPS caps in the Infinity Hacker layout. You can't really find any ALPS group buys out there. Is this something SP can do? I'd be willing to do the legwork to design a keyset that would be of broad enough interest to other Matias owners but also have special keys for the Infinity layout. I just really don't even know where to start.

    You just run one. You figure out who's making stuff, collect the money, buy the stuff, and distribute the stuff to everyone. It's up to you to build your rep and figure out how you want to handle the money. There's not a lot of mystery. It's just a lot of work.

    For example: I wanted Geekhack themed t-shirts last year. I found a local printer that would source the shirts for me and print the logo I wanted. LastPilot hooked me up with a design. I did all the research to figure out the shirt I'd like, sizes, cost, how I'd distribute it, etc. Then I made a thread here to gather orders. Once the orders were in, I went to the shop to have them made. Then I shipped out all the shirts myself.

    Alps keycap GBs haven't been going well. Matias promised ANSI and ISO Alps keycap sets but I haven't seen much besides them being stoked at The Keyboard Co. Alps isn't very popular to begin with and Delta Blues failed (https://geekhack.org/?topic=62274.0).  Yes SP can do it but then you run into issues with the stabilizers, caps, and spacebars. Then people want to have the sets match their retro boards. Badwrench is currently trying to run his Alps Infinity mods (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68887.85) GB. Once again I'll try and support it but I'm not sure  how it will go. PMK definitely isn't my favorite platform for GBs (PMK aka Pimp My Keyboards is the GB site that SP has setup).

    Picking colors isn't the hard part. It's figuring how which keycaps to put into the set because of everyone's wildly different Alps needs/wants and finding someone to make the caps. AFAIK, there's only a few people making Alps caps.

    Thanks for the advice, and particularly for the link to the thread. I did some searching before posting this question, but I didn't come across this thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:57:44
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:42:32
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 08:32:59
    This may not be a simple question. How does one get into leading a group buy?

    The reason I'm asking is because I've got this Infinity keyboard on order, and it's going to be the most esoteric keyset I've ever owned: Matias ALPS caps in the Infinity Hacker layout. You can't really find any ALPS group buys out there. Is this something SP can do? I'd be willing to do the legwork to design a keyset that would be of broad enough interest to other Matias owners but also have special keys for the Infinity layout. I just really don't even know where to start.


    A GB for an ALPS set (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62274.msg1645997#msg1645997) failed recently. You can read the thread to understand some of the reasons for its failure: ALPS are not very popular, and old ALPS keyboards have a variety of stabilizers that make very hard for a set to cover all of them. SP can manufacture caps with ALPS stems.


    About being a GB leader there are a few threads that discuss the topic, but you may give a try to the SP's pimp my keyboard site (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/), they take most of the load to run a GB.


    I hope this help.

    I've used PMK before and I like their setup. I suppose as a first-timer without much reputation that would also help credibility-wise. However, I don't like how they break everything up into small sub-sets. It's too confusing. I'm in on this HyperFuse GMK GB, and I kind of like that it's all just one big set. The way that BunnyLake is running that one has really inspired me. I'll read through the thread you posted and see what I can learn from it. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 13 March 2015, 09:03:50
    Are there any stock fullsize ANSI keyboards with MX switches that have the numpad on the left side?

    If not, what custom boards are readily available?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 March 2015, 09:05:10
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Fri, 13 March 2015, 09:03:50
    Are there any stock fullsize ANSI keyboards with MX switches that have the numpad on the left side?

    If not, what custom boards are readily available?

    http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/black-left-handed-keyboard-ps2-and-usb.asp
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 09:10:05
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Fri, 13 March 2015, 09:03:50
    Are there any stock fullsize ANSI keyboards with MX switches that have the numpad on the left side?

    If not, what custom boards are readily available?

    IIRC there's an LZ and a Plum that have that setup. I think Matias might have one too?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 13 March 2015, 09:36:46
    Thanks for the fast replies guys  :thumb:

    The one from keyboardco is not really "pretty" to say the least - the big ass enter key also makes it impossible to use other keycaps.

    I will keep my eyes open for korean customs :)


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 19:17:52
    Is there a place to order a single set of custom color keycaps? Like will SP do a one-off?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 20:14:46
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 19:17:52
    Is there a place to order a single set of custom color keycaps? Like will SP do a one-off?

    WASD will do one offs but the caps are laser engraved. SP would do a one off I think but the price would probably be so much that you'd pass on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 20:36:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 20:14:46
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 13 March 2015, 19:17:52
    Is there a place to order a single set of custom color keycaps? Like will SP do a one-off?

    WASD will do one offs but the caps are laser engraved. SP would do a one off I think but the price would probably be so much that you'd pass on it.

    There's my answer. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:27:12
    I have some questions regarding GON PCBs and especially on-pcb backlighting...

    It looks like there are soldering spots for on-pcb backlighting right below each of the switch led spots (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/215-thickbox_default/nerd-60-ver20-pcb.jpg), so I'm guessing they use the same resistor and you can only go with either one?
    I feel like switch leds might actually make a more centered/uniform light, so is there any advantage of on-pcb besides not having to desolder leds to desolder switches?

    Going with in switch leds and doing the sip socket mod personally seems like they way to go atm, (even on a crystal case) but some experience or opinions on this would be very appreciated! =)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:39:33
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:27:12
    I have some questions regarding GON PCBs and especially on-pcb backlighting...

    It looks like there are soldering spots for on-pcb backlighting right below each of the switch led spots (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/215-thickbox_default/nerd-60-ver20-pcb.jpg), so I'm guessing they use the same resistor and you can only go with either one?
    I feel like switch leds might actually make a more centered/uniform light, so is there any advantage of on-pcb besides not having to desolder leds to desolder switches?

    Going with in switch leds and doing the sip socket mod personally seems like they way to go atm, (even on a crystal case) but some experience or opinions on this would be very appreciated! =)

    Are you sure it's on PCB SMD LEDs and not SMD Diodes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:51:55
    Thx for the quick reply CPT!  :thumb:

    But yes I'm pretty sure since the pcb specs (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/113-nerd-60-ver20-pcb.html#/0_connection-usb_only/color-white) mention on-pcb backlight, and the list of required parts (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/137-parts-needed-for-a-kbd.html) also says:
     'SMD LEDs for Side LED or On-PCB Backlight LEDs
    (For On-PCB Backlight LEDs, you need both a proper PCB and a Crystal Housing.'

    So on-pcb might replace (or atleast hook into the same resistors and therefore control) as the in switch leds?!

    Smd diodes I guess would be soldered on the same spots as regular diodes, so to the left of each switch on this picture (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/img/cms/Wireless%20Option/_GON2330.jpg).
    The diode spots have 3 soldering pads (the two outside ones of which are drilled),
    So you can use the father apart drilled for regular diodes, and the closer option for smds I believe. =)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:20:18
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:51:55
    Thx for the quick reply CPT!  :thumb:

    But yes I'm pretty sure since the pcb specs (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/113-nerd-60-ver20-pcb.html#/0_connection-usb_only/color-white) mention on-pcb backlight, and the list of required parts (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/137-parts-needed-for-a-kbd.html) also says:
     'SMD LEDs for Side LED or On-PCB Backlight LEDs
    (For On-PCB Backlight LEDs, you need both a proper PCB and a Crystal Housing.'

    So on-pcb might replace (or atleast hook into the same resistors and therefore control) as the in switch leds?!

    Smd diodes I guess would be soldered on the same spots as regular diodes, so to the left of each switch on this picture (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/img/cms/Wireless%20Option/_GON2330.jpg).
    The diode spots have 3 soldering pads (the two outside ones of which are drilled),
    So you can use the father apart drilled for regular diodes, and the closer option for smds I believe. =)


    Ok. How the light diffuses will be more determined by the case than in-switch vs on-PCB. For example, you might want to rock on-PCB if you've got a polycarbonate-aluminum sandwich case. I believe that in-switch and on PCB LEDs also put out light at different angles. Personally I think in-switch is probably better for milled metal cases while on-PCB would be better for cases which have frosted or clear polymers. But I've never personally tried on-PCB LEDs. LastPilot would know for sure as he's got the GON Crystal and an LZ-S with LEDs in both.

    There's some LED info if you hunt for it. Believe it was a discussion photoelectric had.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:09:27
    THX CPT! 

    I'm pretty much planning on building a Nerd60, but haven't fully decided on a case yet.
    Because of the additional bluetooth support option and the clean (color neutral) looks I'm kinda tempted to go with the Crystal as well tho so on-pcb leds kinda became an option... =)

    I just looked at some picture of Lastpilot's Crystal tkl (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65501) again btw and for the first time realised it uses on-pcb leds!  xD
    I agree that it looks awesome on the polycarbonate since it defuses the light and even lights up the pcb it self very nicely. (You can actually see the pcb thru the keycaps on Lastpilot's pics!)

    It might even be possible to populate both, since that should be connecting two leds in parallel (so voltage stays the same but current gets split).
    But it may effect the brightness of both leds, and I would be scared mixing different led types might lead to uneven results somehow...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derzemel on Sat, 14 March 2015, 16:17:36
    Hello,

    On what topic or section can I ask for some information or help regarding physical stores to buy keyboards in Seoul, Korea?

    Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: billnye on Sat, 14 March 2015, 19:20:46
    Does anyone know how to program a LZ B8?

    I'm not really feeling this bright yellow LED color :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 14 March 2015, 20:14:05
    What sources are to get LEDs and sip sockets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 March 2015, 21:24:26
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 14 March 2015, 20:14:05
    What sources are to get LEDs and sip sockets?

    Mouser, Digikey, Jameco, eBay

    Quote from: billnye on Sat, 14 March 2015, 19:20:46
    Does anyone know how to program a LZ B8?

    You could try PMing ninjadoc. He's got a ton of LZ boards.

    Quote from: derzemel on Sat, 14 March 2015, 16:17:36
    Hello,

    On what topic or section can I ask for some information or help regarding physical stores to buy keyboards in Seoul, Korea?

    Thank you!

    Off Topic is probably the right section to post your thread.

    bowji's thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68415.0) and the /r/mk shopping guide (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/korea_shopping_guide#wiki_seoul) may help you out too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 14 March 2015, 22:07:08
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:32:09
    Are international shipping rates pretty standard no matter the country?

    Don't count on it.

    I found out recently that even "flat rate international" has significant exceptions, such as Morocco, which is significantly higher (like $60 for a medium box that would be $40 to "standard" destinations).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 14 March 2015, 22:09:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 March 2015, 21:24:26
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 14 March 2015, 20:14:05
    What sources are to get LEDs and sip sockets?

    Mouser, Digikey, Jameco, eBay

    Quote from: billnye on Sat, 14 March 2015, 19:20:46
    Does anyone know how to program a LZ B8?

    You could try PMing ninjadoc. He's got a ton of LZ boards.

    Quote from: derzemel on Sat, 14 March 2015, 16:17:36
    Hello,

    On what topic or section can I ask for some information or help regarding physical stores to buy keyboards in Seoul, Korea?

    Thank you!

    Off Topic is probably the right section to post your thread.

    bowji's thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68415.0) and the /r/mk shopping guide (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/korea_shopping_guide#wiki_seoul) may help you out too.


    I got some from ebay, pretty cheap. TY.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Sun, 15 March 2015, 09:56:12
    What should I use to clean pbt dyesub cherries? Would a couple of dental tabs do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 15 March 2015, 09:59:24
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 15 March 2015, 09:56:12
    What should I use to clean pbt dyesub cherries? Would a couple of dental tabs do?


    +1 Also interested in this question. Adding if the same procedure may work for ABS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sun, 15 March 2015, 11:09:44
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 15 March 2015, 09:56:12
    What should I use to clean pbt dyesub cherries? Would a couple of dental tabs do?
    Usally I clean mine with dental tabs in hot water + some dish soap. works well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 15 March 2015, 12:29:06
    Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 15 March 2015, 11:09:44
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 15 March 2015, 09:56:12
    What should I use to clean pbt dyesub cherries? Would a couple of dental tabs do?
    Usally I clean mine with dental tabs in hot water + some dish soap. works well
    +1. If it some especially caked on grime, isopropyl alcohol works well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: just1n on Sun, 15 March 2015, 12:44:28
    Quote from: combataran on Sun, 15 March 2015, 09:56:12
    What should I use to clean pbt dyesub cherries? Would a couple of dental tabs do?


    (http://pic.browser.360.cn/t0185b3e2ad37a6fd2a.jpg)


    Ultrasonic cleaner
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 15 March 2015, 12:46:22
    Mesh bag in the dishwasher, follow with denture tabs if you want them pearly white.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 16 March 2015, 15:58:57
    I've seen a few boards with white "jelly" POM keycaps. Are these for sale somewhere online?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 March 2015, 16:01:53
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 16 March 2015, 15:58:57
    I've seen a few boards with white "jelly" POM keycaps. Are these for sale somewhere online?

    Feng and I think imsto had them. They're kinda hard to come by.

    I dunno if you're into the aesthetics or just want to try POM. But if you want to try POM, you can find them pretty easily on old Cherry boards. G81-XXXXL boards that are black are typically lasered POM.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:27:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 March 2015, 16:01:53
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 16 March 2015, 15:58:57
    I've seen a few boards with white "jelly" POM keycaps. Are these for sale somewhere online?

    Feng and I think imsto had them. They're kinda hard to come by.

    I dunno if you're into the aesthetics or just want to try POM. But if you want to try POM, you can find them pretty easily on old Cherry boards. G81-XXXXL boards that are black are typically lasered POM.

    Not whites, but there are still a few pink, green and yellow ones (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68692.0).

    Also, there are a few threads like this one (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67406.60) or this one (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59888.0) with load of people showing interest...
    So for any one interested definitely leave Feng a post in one of these to support the jelly pom movement! <3<3<3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hyp3rParadise on Mon, 16 March 2015, 19:00:21
    what are some free mechanical keyboard mods that i can do at home that would be beneficial for my razer blackwidow chroma
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 16 March 2015, 19:03:34
    Quote from: Hyp3rParadise on Mon, 16 March 2015, 19:00:21
    what are some free mechanical keyboard mods that i can do at home that would be beneficial for my razer blackwidow chroma
    Get a refund and buy a different keyboard?

    But seriously, do you have the equipment and/or inclination to desolder and solder a keyboard? If so, we can recommend some good things. Otherwise you are limited to things like o-rings or landing pads.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: random_rockets on Mon, 16 March 2015, 23:35:51
    Q: My shift key gets stuck sometimes and is slow to reset. Upon inspection it seems the stabilizer is at fault but I am not sure what is wrong with it. For reference I am using a KBP v60 with clears that has the cherry stabs but with the wire going under the plate.

    What should I troubleshoot before I have to desolder all my switches to fix that guy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 17 March 2015, 01:48:31
    is it true that typing on topre is like typing on piano?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Tue, 17 March 2015, 01:55:43
    I guess topre feels more like a piano then Cherry switches would be, but I wouldn't use piano keys as a good comparison to topre.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 03:18:18
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 17 March 2015, 01:48:31
    is it true that typing on topre is like typing on piano?

    false. no do rai mi fa so :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 03:24:17
    Typing on mx black / piano, which requires more force to press down, and which causes fatigue faster?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 17 March 2015, 05:27:56

    Quote from: random_rockets on Mon, 16 March 2015, 23:35:51
    Q: My shift key gets stuck sometimes and is slow to reset. Upon inspection it seems the stabilizer is at fault but I am not sure what is wrong with it. For reference I am using a KBP v60 with clears that has the cherry stabs but with the wire going under the plate.

    What should I troubleshoot before I have to desolder all my switches to fix that guy?

    Make sure both ends of the wire are clipped well into the plastic part. If one side is outit an bind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 17 March 2015, 06:54:15
    How often do LZ group buys happen? I want one. Bad.

    Any advice for coping also welcome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 March 2015, 07:02:36
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 17 March 2015, 01:48:31
    is it true that typing on topre is like typing on piano?

    I think the feel is much different, but in your analogy, I think beam spring would be closest to a piano.

    Typing on Topre is an experience you can compare to something you already know, though. You have typed on a rubber dome keyboard before, yes? That's what Topre is like.

    No hate. I have two HHKBs, and I love them. But they feel like a rubber dome, because that's what they are. The best, smoothest, most high quality rubber dome over a capacitive PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 07:24:23
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 17 March 2015, 06:54:15
    How often do LZ group buys happen? I want one. Bad.

    Any advice for coping also welcome.

    Not too often. LZ has had some issues in the past on GH so I believe they're currently banned from selling here. I think you need to get them imported which makes them harder to come by.

    Quote from: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 03:24:17
    Typing on mx black / piano, which requires more force to press down, and which causes fatigue faster?

    Piano. I don't really like the Topre vs Piano discussion because they're not really related.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 07:53:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 07:24:23
    Quote from: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 03:24:17
    Typing on mx black / piano, which requires more force to press down, and which causes fatigue faster?

    Piano. I don't really like the Topre vs Piano discussion because they're not really related.


    Well, I am a bit worrying about if I can use my mx black as my daily driver. I type and game a lot. I used to play piano but have forget that feeling. :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:05:04
    Quote from: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 07:53:54
    Well, I am a bit worrying about if I can use my mx black as my daily driver. I type and game a lot. I used to play piano but have forget that feeling. :p

    Using an MX black keyboard as a daily driver shouldn't be a problem, unless you have a really bad RSI already. Blacks were made for general use...just look at all the Cherry and WYSE keyboards that used them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:22:19
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:05:04
    Quote from: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 07:53:54
    Well, I am a bit worrying about if I can use my mx black as my daily driver. I type and game a lot. I used to play piano but have forget that feeling. :p

    Using an MX black keyboard as a daily driver shouldn't be a problem, unless you have a really bad RSI already. Blacks were made for general use...just look at all the Cherry and WYSE keyboards that used them.

    Cause I've heard people here and there say mx black make them fatigue. :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:25:06
    Quote from: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:22:19
    Cause I've heard people here and there say mx black make them fatigue. :confused:

    The problem is that what people say and what you will feel are two different things. People love Topre. I don't. It hurts my hands. So the best research you can do is to get your hands on something to try it out for yourself.

    I don't know where you are but if you're in the USA, stores like Microcenter will let you try switches and keyboards. You can try asking people in the Free Stuff thread to send you a few Blacks to try out. I highly suggest trying the switch out for yourself.

    I would also say if you've played piano, you'll probably be fine with MX Blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:47:43
    What's the story with Korean custom keyboards? I gather that's not the name of a company but just a designation for projects built by enthusiasts in Korea, such as the Orion v2. Is that correct? And if so, what makes them different from non-Korean customs? And where does the TX1800 fall in all this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:51:22
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:47:43
    What's the story with Korean custom keyboards? I gather that's not the name of a company but just a designation for projects built by enthusiasts in Korea, such as the Orion v2. Is that correct? And if so, what makes them different from non-Korean customs? And where does the TX1800 fall in all this?

    Korean customs are custom keyboards made in Korea. They come from various keyboarding communities like KBDlab, OTD, kbdmania, etc. They're different from non-Korean customs because they're made in Korea where others are made in China or Europe or the USA. They're popular because of their nice case and PCB designs.

    TX1800? Pretty sure it's a custom case and PCB for a keyboard kit designed in Korea so it's a Korean custom.

    They have a high volume of custom boards that aren't one-offs so it's easier to lump them into a category. GH, DT, r/mk, etc have had less high number, customized keyboards so the community has yet to name a category for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:58:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:51:22
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:47:43
    What's the story with Korean custom keyboards? I gather that's not the name of a company but just a designation for projects built by enthusiasts in Korea, such as the Orion v2. Is that correct? And if so, what makes them different from non-Korean customs? And where does the TX1800 fall in all this?

    Korean customs are custom keyboards made in Korea. They come from various keyboarding communities like KBDlab, OTD, kbdmania, etc. They're different from non-Korean customs because they're made in Korea where others are made in China or Europe or the USA. They're popular because of their nice case and PCB designs.

    TX1800? Pretty sure it's a custom case and PCB for a keyboard kit designed in Korea so it's a Korean custom.

    They have a high volume of custom boards that aren't one-offs so it's easier to lump them into a category. GH, DT, r/mk, etc have had less high number, customized keyboards so the community has yet to name a category for them.

    So basically it's just that Korea has a more active custom keyboard community, so they've gotten better at it over time, and maybe the higher volume helps improve overall production cost & quality. So the only thing which separates a western custom keyboard from a Korean custom (besides geography) is the degree of interest and a bit of manufacturing experience. Is that pretty much it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:06:20
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:58:13
    So basically it's just that Korea has a more active custom keyboard community, so they've gotten better at it over time, and maybe the higher volume helps improve overall production cost & quality. So the only thing which separates a western custom keyboard from a Korean custom (besides geography) is the degree of interest and a bit of manufacturing experience. Is that pretty much it?

    I don't really know how they get manufacturers to work with them. In the US, from my own experience, trying to find a shop that will do low number runs (read 20-50) will typically mean the prices are relatively high (Read $500-600 for a 60% case after machining and finishing - that's the quote I was given from one shop).

    It seems to me that the Korean communites have a much more dedicated DIY/custom maker culture with the goal of selling a decent amount of boards. The communities I'm familiar with (GH, DT, r/mk) have a DIY culture but it seems more geared towards one-offs right now. That being said the Ergo-dox, Skeldon, GHPad, Epsilon, Infinity, JD40, and the Atomic/Planck boards are all something to check out.

    Manufacturing experience? I think it's actually equal.

    Really the difference is that they have teams that have the express goal of making custom keyboards for sale. We don't. They have a higher number of these teams and produce a higher volume of custom keyboards. Plus they're usually pretty cool. Could that change? Absolutely.

    So TL:DR - I still stick by the geography statement. And don't forget there are many other communities out there (Chinese, DT, European, Vietnamese, etc) which are making stuff but I'm not as in tune with them as Geekhack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:12:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:25:06
    Quote from: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:22:19
    Cause I've heard people here and there say mx black make them fatigue. :confused:

    The problem is that what people say and what you will feel are two different things. People love Topre. I don't. It hurts my hands. So the best research you can do is to get your hands on something to try it out for yourself.

    I don't know where you are but if you're in the USA, stores like Microcenter will let you try switches and keyboards. You can try asking people in the Free Stuff thread to send you a few Blacks to try out. I highly suggest trying the switch out for yourself.

    I would also say if you've played piano, you'll probably be fine with MX Blacks.

    In fact, I've owned red/black/brown/blue, and after several days' tests, I found I prefer linear and return brown/blue. Then I kept heavy using red/black for about 20 days, and slightly prefer black for stronger feedback. Both work quite fine, never fatigue me.

    Now I have only 3 days left before the return deadline. Some said they've used black daily very well for the first few months or years, but finally seek for another lighter switch(for more easiness/less fatigue).

    So.....I am a bit afraid I'll regret, or I have to keep them both. :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vmod on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:47:21
    Could anyone tell me how much would it cost me to build my own mechanical keyboard?

    I could buy a few used Cherry MX Blue Switches full-size keyboards ( 2 or 3 ) for about $10/each. I was thinking I could de-solder the switches and use the switches to build a new keyboard. Is it advisable to do so? I mean use old switches for a new keyboard.

    I've read a few threads about building keyboards and saw a few videos and most of the skills required are either done by me or doable.

    Can anyone give me a rough estimate of how much would it cost?

    From what I gathered here are the things I would need ( please feel free to correct me and add any missing info )

    - Switches : I could desolder from the old ones and use if that is possible )
    - Soldering iron ( have it ). Would need a desoldering iron  and diodes.
    - Microcontoller : I've read Teensey is the best one to go for but I am not sure about this one yet, also a thread to flashing it and getting the right firmware for it is still a mystery to me. Some help please.
    - PCB - I could only find Phantom PCB which too isn't available that much. Most discussions say design you own and get it. I am not sure how. Some help please.
    - Plate and Case. I think I could rig up a case but if they are available easily please point me to there.

    Even if this sounds like a bad idea to you, please share some information at least I would know the information I lack and would help me in future.

    Edit : Also if nothing at all, should I just get those keyboards and keep for spare switches?

    Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:20:47
    Quote from: vmod on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:47:21

    should I just get those keyboards and keep for spare switches?


    Yes, get the keyboards and use them for a while. If you have to cannibalize 1 or more to build a good working specimen, do that.

    Get familiar with various switches and existing layouts before you go off to re-invent the wheel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:27:26
    Quote from: choc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:12:50
    In fact, I've owned red/black/brown/blue, and after several days' tests, I found I prefer linear and return brown/blue. Then I kept heavy using red/black for about 20 days, and slightly prefer black for stronger feedback. Both work quite fine, never fatigue me.

    Now I have only 3 days left before the return deadline. Some said they've used black daily very well for the first few months or years, but finally seek for another lighter switch(for more easiness/less fatigue).

    So.....I am a bit afraid I'll regret, or I have to keep them both. :rolleyes:

    Seems like you're keeping the Blacks since you like them? Switches are personal preference. You like Blacks. Keep them then. Can't see why you'd regret something you tried out and tested for yourself.

    Quote from: vmod on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:47:21
    Could anyone tell me how much would it cost me to build my own mechanical keyboard?

    I could buy a few used Cherry MX Blue Switches full-size keyboards ( 2 or 3 ) for about $10/each. I was thinking I could de-solder the switches and use the switches to build a new keyboard. Is it advisable to do so? I mean use old switches for a new keyboard.

    I've read a few threads about building keyboards and saw a few videos and most of the skills required are either done by me or doable.

    Can anyone give me a rough estimate of how much would it cost?

    From what I gathered here are the things I would need ( please feel free to correct me and add any missing info )

    - Switches : I could desolder from the old ones and use if that is possible )
    - Soldering iron ( have it ). Would need a desoldering iron  and diodes.
    - Microcontoller : I've read Teensey is the best one to go for but I am not sure about this one yet, also a thread to flashing it and getting the right firmware for it is still a mystery to me. Some help please.
    - PCB - I could only find Phantom PCB which too isn't available that much. Most discussions say design you own and get it. I am not sure how. Some help please.
    - Plate and Case. I think I could rig up a case but if they are available easily please point me to there.

    Even if this sounds like a bad idea to you, please share some information at least I would know the information I lack and would help me in future.

    Edit : Also if nothing at all, should I just get those keyboards and keep for spare switches?

    Thank you.


    - Switches : $10 since you can source them for $10
    - Soldering iron ( have it ). Would need a desoldering iron  and diodes : Desoldering tool will run about $20
    - Diodes = I think they're like 5-10 cents a piece on Mouser? I believe the price changes if they're inswitch or SMD
    - Microcontoller : Teensy runs about $20. Many people like using TMK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0) or Soarer's code (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)
    - PCB: If you buy one, it can range from $30-60+. Phantom is available as well as the Infinity, GON, and other custom ones. If you want to design one, many people like using KiCAD. Check the Making Stuff Together forum for more examples.
    - Plate and Case: Plate will run $30-50 if you buy one or maybe more if you design one. Swill's plate tool (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0) might be interesting to you. Case? $10-$1000+. Depends on what kind of case and materials you want.

    Your list is missing solder and keycaps. Also if you decide you want to handwire a keyboard, you'll need hookup or magnet wire.

    Could you just pick up the keyboards and keep them for spare switches? I would for $10. And I like fohat.dig's statement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:29:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:06:20
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:58:13
    So basically it's just that Korea has a more active custom keyboard community, so they've gotten better at it over time, and maybe the higher volume helps improve overall production cost & quality. So the only thing which separates a western custom keyboard from a Korean custom (besides geography) is the degree of interest and a bit of manufacturing experience. Is that pretty much it?

    I don't really know how they get manufacturers to work with them. In the US, from my own experience, trying to find a shop that will do low number runs (read 20-50) will typically mean the prices are relatively high (Read $500-600 for a 60% case after machining and finishing - that's the quote I was given from one shop).

    It seems to me that the Korean communites have a much more dedicated DIY/custom maker culture with the goal of selling a decent amount of boards. The communities I'm familiar with (GH, DT, r/mk) have a DIY culture but it seems more geared towards one-offs right now. That being said the Ergo-dox, Skeldon, GHPad, Epsilon, Infinity, and the Atomic/Planck boards are all something to check out.

    Manufacturing experience? I think it's actually equal.

    Really the difference is that they have teams that have the express goal of making custom keyboards for sale. We don't. They have a higher number of these teams and produce a higher volume of custom keyboards. Plus they're usually pretty cool. Could that change? Absolutely.

    So TL:DR - I still stick by the geography statement. And don't forget there are many other communities out there (Chinese, DT, European, Vietnamese, etc) which are making stuff but I'm not as in tune with them as Geekhack.

    I guess the good CPT doesn't like his JD40 or JD45. :'(

    j/k bro



    Part of the discrepancy with regard to the custom scene in Korea versus here is that, it seems the keyboard community in Korea is represented more by a section of the population that would be considered affluent. They have the funds to front the costs of producing a run of 50-100 keyboards, and sell them once they are made. Traditionally, with GH/DT/etc the mode has been to do a group buy to crowd source the funding before production. This has been the source of much angst, with delays and other pitfalls making the buys less than stellar successes. The Phantom group buy went fairly well, from what I remember, but there was no case offered with it. And of course we all know the continuing saga that has been the GH60 group buy.

    There are people in this community working behind the scenes to bring Korean-quality offerings to GH, but it takes a little while to get those things started. Hopefully, once those projects start to become reality, we will see even more of them coming along.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 17 March 2015, 11:01:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:06:20
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:58:13
    So basically it's just that Korea has a more active custom keyboard community, so they've gotten better at it over time, and maybe the higher volume helps improve overall production cost & quality. So the only thing which separates a western custom keyboard from a Korean custom (besides geography) is the degree of interest and a bit of manufacturing experience. Is that pretty much it?

    I don't really know how they get manufacturers to work with them. In the US, from my own experience, trying to find a shop that will do low number runs (read 20-50) will typically mean the prices are relatively high (Read $500-600 for a 60% case after machining and finishing - that's the quote I was given from one shop).

    It seems to me that the Korean communites have a much more dedicated DIY/custom maker culture with the goal of selling a decent amount of boards. The communities I'm familiar with (GH, DT, r/mk) have a DIY culture but it seems more geared towards one-offs right now. That being said the Ergo-dox, Skeldon, GHPad, Epsilon, Infinity, JD40, and the Atomic/Planck boards are all something to check out.

    Manufacturing experience? I think it's actually equal.

    Really the difference is that they have teams that have the express goal of making custom keyboards for sale. We don't. They have a higher number of these teams and produce a higher volume of custom keyboards. Plus they're usually pretty cool. Could that change? Absolutely.

    So TL:DR - I still stick by the geography statement. And don't forget there are many other communities out there (Chinese, DT, European, Vietnamese, etc) which are making stuff but I'm not as in tune with them as Geekhack.
    Not totwlly sure how it would factor in, but from what I've heard, it also has something to do with the number of heavily specialized shops there. Forgot where I heard it, but basically they said that instead of having large stores that have decent selections of everything like Walmart and such, they have lots of small stores that specialize heavily in one or two things. So these small machining shops get enough business that they can afford to do smaller runs of things more cheaply. But I obviously don't know enough about South Korea to be totally sure
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 17 March 2015, 11:12:37
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 17 March 2015, 11:01:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:06:20
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 17 March 2015, 08:58:13
    So basically it's just that Korea has a more active custom keyboard community, so they've gotten better at it over time, and maybe the higher volume helps improve overall production cost & quality. So the only thing which separates a western custom keyboard from a Korean custom (besides geography) is the degree of interest and a bit of manufacturing experience. Is that pretty much it?

    I don't really know how they get manufacturers to work with them. In the US, from my own experience, trying to find a shop that will do low number runs (read 20-50) will typically mean the prices are relatively high (Read $500-600 for a 60% case after machining and finishing - that's the quote I was given from one shop).

    It seems to me that the Korean communites have a much more dedicated DIY/custom maker culture with the goal of selling a decent amount of boards. The communities I'm familiar with (GH, DT, r/mk) have a DIY culture but it seems more geared towards one-offs right now. That being said the Ergo-dox, Skeldon, GHPad, Epsilon, Infinity, JD40, and the Atomic/Planck boards are all something to check out.

    Manufacturing experience? I think it's actually equal.

    Really the difference is that they have teams that have the express goal of making custom keyboards for sale. We don't. They have a higher number of these teams and produce a higher volume of custom keyboards. Plus they're usually pretty cool. Could that change? Absolutely.

    So TL:DR - I still stick by the geography statement. And don't forget there are many other communities out there (Chinese, DT, European, Vietnamese, etc) which are making stuff but I'm not as in tune with them as Geekhack.
    Not totwlly sure how it would factor in, but from what I've heard, it also has something to do with the number of heavily specialized shops there. Forgot where I heard it, but basically they said that instead of having large stores that have decent selections of everything like Walmart and such, they have lots of small stores that specialize heavily in one or two things. So these small machining shops get enough business that they can afford to do smaller runs of things more cheaply. But I obviously don't know enough about South Korea to be totally sure

    This kind of retail environment makes sense for a country about the size of a single U.S. state. Who needs a Walmart when a specialty shop is just a maglev trip away? Big box stores only make sense in the U.S. where you may be buying goods which were manufactured 3,000 miles away.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 17 March 2015, 14:55:12
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 March 2015, 07:02:36
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 17 March 2015, 01:48:31
    is it true that typing on topre is like typing on piano?

    I think the feel is much different, but in your analogy, I think beam spring would be closest to a piano.

    Typing on Topre is an experience you can compare to something you already know, though. You have typed on a rubber dome keyboard before, yes? That's what Topre is like.

    No hate. I have two HHKBs, and I love them. But they feel like a rubber dome, because that's what they are. The best, smoothest, most high quality rubber dome over a capacitive PCB.

    Guess I need to try beam spring now...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 17 March 2015, 21:56:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:27:26
    Quote from: vmod on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:47:21
    Could anyone tell me how much would it cost me to build my own mechanical keyboard?

    I could buy a few used Cherry MX Blue Switches full-size keyboards ( 2 or 3 ) for about $10/each. I was thinking I could de-solder the switches and use the switches to build a new keyboard. Is it advisable to do so? I mean use old switches for a new keyboard.

    I've read a few threads about building keyboards and saw a few videos and most of the skills required are either done by me or doable.

    Can anyone give me a rough estimate of how much would it cost?

    From what I gathered here are the things I would need ( please feel free to correct me and add any missing info )

    - Switches : I could desolder from the old ones and use if that is possible )
    - Soldering iron ( have it ). Would need a desoldering iron  and diodes.
    - Microcontoller : I've read Teensey is the best one to go for but I am not sure about this one yet, also a thread to flashing it and getting the right firmware for it is still a mystery to me. Some help please.
    - PCB - I could only find Phantom PCB which too isn't available that much. Most discussions say design you own and get it. I am not sure how. Some help please.
    - Plate and Case. I think I could rig up a case but if they are available easily please point me to there.

    Even if this sounds like a bad idea to you, please share some information at least I would know the information I lack and would help me in future.

    Edit : Also if nothing at all, should I just get those keyboards and keep for spare switches?

    Thank you.


    - Switches : $10 since you can source them for $10
    - Soldering iron ( have it ). Would need a desoldering iron  and diodes : Desoldering tool will run about $20
    - Diodes = I think they're like 5-10 cents a piece on Mouser? I believe the price changes if they're inswitch or SMD
    - Microcontoller : Teensy runs about $20. Many people like using TMK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0) or Soarer's code (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)
    - PCB: If you buy one, it can range from $30-60+. Phantom is available as well as the Infinity, GON, and other custom ones. If you want to design one, many people like using KiCAD. Check the Making Stuff Together forum for more examples.
    - Plate and Case: Plate will run $30-50 if you buy one or maybe more if you design one. Swill's plate tool (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0) might be interesting to you. Case? $10-$1000+. Depends on what kind of case and materials you want.

    Your list is missing solder and keycaps. Also if you decide you want to handwire a keyboard, you'll need hookup or magnet wire.

    Could you just pick up the keyboards and keep them for spare switches? I would for $10. And I like fohat.dig's statement.


    Can this be stickied into something like a "how much will it cost me to build my own keyboard" thread please?

    Often new members will say they want to build their own keyboard with X switches, Y case and so on, and ask how much it would cost and where to get the parts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 March 2015, 22:27:32
    to practice soldering switches, i'm thinking of acquiring some cheap, barebone PCBs through the classifieds and work on those. how does that sound?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vmod on Wed, 18 March 2015, 03:43:42
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:20:47

    Yes, get the keyboards and use them for a while. If you have to cannibalize 1 or more to build a good working specimen, do that.

    Get familiar with various switches and existing layouts before you go off to re-invent the wheel.


    The fact is I've not used anything apart from blue and red(few days) yet. I think you're right, I should first try all switches before I end up on the path to make my own keyboard. That would definitely help me nail the right switch for me I guess.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:27:26

    - Switches : $10 since you can source them for $10
    - Soldering iron ( have it ). Would need a desoldering iron  and diodes : Desoldering tool will run about $20
    - Diodes = I think they're like 5-10 cents a piece on Mouser? I believe the price changes if they're inswitch or SMD
    - Microcontoller : Teensy runs about $20. Many people like using TMK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0) or Soarer's code (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)
    - PCB: If you buy one, it can range from $30-60+. Phantom is available as well as the Infinity, GON, and other custom ones. If you want to design one, many people like using KiCAD. Check the Making Stuff Together forum for more examples.
    - Plate and Case: Plate will run $30-50 if you buy one or maybe more if you design one. Swill's plate tool (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0) might be interesting to you. Case? $10-$1000+. Depends on what kind of case and materials you want.

    Your list is missing solder and keycaps. Also if you decide you want to handwire a keyboard, you'll need hookup or magnet wire.

    Could you just pick up the keyboards and keep them for spare switches? I would for $10. And I like fohat.dig's statement.

    Ya I think I would go with fohat.dig's advice. Push this for later after I try most switches I can and find which one suits me the best and then jump into making my own.

    By the way awesome info. Thanks. This is what I was looking for, now I've a rough idea of  what to gather over the span on year after which I would make the keyboard.
    Oh yay forgot to include keycaps and its costing. But that is something I am not worried about at all, the availability of keycaps is in abundance.
    IMO, Handwiring looks like a very messy and risky job though.

    You are very kind sir, always been helpful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 March 2015, 16:11:28
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 March 2015, 22:27:32
    to practice soldering switches, i'm thinking of acquiring some cheap, barebone PCBs through the classifieds and work on those. how does that sound?

    Sounds good. Old electronics like VCRs have also been suggested to me.

    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 17 March 2015, 21:56:16
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:27:26
    Quote from: vmod on Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:47:21
    Could anyone tell me how much would it cost me to build my own mechanical keyboard?

    I could buy a few used Cherry MX Blue Switches full-size keyboards ( 2 or 3 ) for about $10/each. I was thinking I could de-solder the switches and use the switches to build a new keyboard. Is it advisable to do so? I mean use old switches for a new keyboard.

    I've read a few threads about building keyboards and saw a few videos and most of the skills required are either done by me or doable.

    Can anyone give me a rough estimate of how much would it cost?

    From what I gathered here are the things I would need ( please feel free to correct me and add any missing info )

    - Switches : I could desolder from the old ones and use if that is possible )
    - Soldering iron ( have it ). Would need a desoldering iron  and diodes.
    - Microcontoller : I've read Teensey is the best one to go for but I am not sure about this one yet, also a thread to flashing it and getting the right firmware for it is still a mystery to me. Some help please.
    - PCB - I could only find Phantom PCB which too isn't available that much. Most discussions say design you own and get it. I am not sure how. Some help please.
    - Plate and Case. I think I could rig up a case but if they are available easily please point me to there.

    Even if this sounds like a bad idea to you, please share some information at least I would know the information I lack and would help me in future.

    Edit : Also if nothing at all, should I just get those keyboards and keep for spare switches?

    Thank you.


    - Switches : $10 since you can source them for $10
    - Soldering iron ( have it ). Would need a desoldering iron  and diodes : Desoldering tool will run about $20
    - Diodes = I think they're like 5-10 cents a piece on Mouser? I believe the price changes if they're inswitch or SMD
    - Microcontoller : Teensy runs about $20. Many people like using TMK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0) or Soarer's code (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0)
    - PCB: If you buy one, it can range from $30-60+. Phantom is available as well as the Infinity, GON, and other custom ones. If you want to design one, many people like using KiCAD. Check the Making Stuff Together forum for more examples.
    - Plate and Case: Plate will run $30-50 if you buy one or maybe more if you design one. Swill's plate tool (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0) might be interesting to you. Case? $10-$1000+. Depends on what kind of case and materials you want.

    Your list is missing solder and keycaps. Also if you decide you want to handwire a keyboard, you'll need hookup or magnet wire.

    Could you just pick up the keyboards and keep them for spare switches? I would for $10. And I like fohat.dig's statement.



    Can this be stickied into something like a "how much will it cost me to build my own keyboard" thread please?

    Often new members will say they want to build their own keyboard with X switches, Y case and so on, and ask how much it would cost and where to get the parts.

    Done (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_GGGG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 18 March 2015, 17:10:37
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 March 2015, 22:27:32
    to practice soldering switches, i'm thinking of acquiring some cheap,

    For $25 each (or less, if you are lucky):

    Buy a Dell AT101(W) for a chassis and an Apple Extended Keyboard (or II) for a donor and do your practice soldering and de-soldering on the Apple.

    You can take the Apple completely apart for practice, and after you are finished with the project, you will have a perfectly good working keyboard and partial set of spare Alps caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:00:21
    With using an IBM F keyboard naked, no case, would there be any detrimental effects of using magnets on the back plate?  The would be stationary.  What I was thinking for a skeleton case would just be a couple pieces of plate with a counterbored hole for N52 rare earth magnets. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:11:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 March 2015, 16:11:28
    Old electronics like VCRs have also been suggested to me.
    eh, the idea of taking home a clunky and obsolete VCR doesn't seem very appealing to me

    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 18 March 2015, 17:10:37
    Buy a Dell AT101(W) for a chassis and an Apple Extended Keyboard (or II) for a donor and do your practice soldering and de-soldering on the Apple.

    You can take the Apple completely apart for practice, and after you are finished with the project, you will have a perfectly good working keyboard and partial set of spare Alps caps.
    i like this, having a clear goal does make it sound more fun. thanks for the suggestion
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 18 March 2015, 22:35:15
    Anyone know the likelihood of me finding one of these?

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=76
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 18 March 2015, 22:36:58
    Will Model M2 caps fit on a Model M and vice versa? The M2's caps are single-piece, right?

    Thanks.

    Edit: Also, how similar are the Matias tactile switches to orange Alps? I got a board with orange Alps today (m0116) and so far I really like the switches, so I'm considering getting a board at some point using similar switches in a standard layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 March 2015, 23:04:51
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 18 March 2015, 22:35:15
    Anyone know the likelihood of me finding one of these?

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=76

    45.674% :P

    Quote from: Ludovician on Wed, 18 March 2015, 22:36:58
    Will Model M2 caps fit on a Model M and vice versa? The M2's caps are single-piece, right?

    Yes they are one piece.

    Technically yes they'll fit but the clearances on the case make them actuate oddly. I wasn't happy with Model M caps on my M2.

    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:00:21
    With using an IBM F keyboard naked, no case, would there be any detrimental effects of using magnets on the back plate?  The would be stationary.  What I was thinking for a skeleton case would just be a couple pieces of plate with a counterbored hole for N52 rare earth magnets. 

    I'm going to go with yes but that's a guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 18 March 2015, 23:16:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 March 2015, 23:04:51
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 18 March 2015, 22:35:15
    Anyone know the likelihood of me finding one of these?

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=76

    45.674% :P

    (http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--QiZQblOF--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/qb2qzg7bfsj94tk7euzw.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:49:52
    Is there any place outside of taobao that sells white costar stab mounts?
    I only see white inserts. Also odd that there aren't black inserts either, even though I only want white.
    Does no one else care to have matching stabs for all the Gaterons that were bought?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Thu, 19 March 2015, 08:37:20
    WTF is up with the shark girls?

    Five different people's avatars: http://imgur.com/a/qYjZZ
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 March 2015, 08:38:22
    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:49:52
    Is there any place outside of taobao that sells white costar stab mounts?
    I only see white inserts. Also odd that there aren't black inserts either, even though I only want white.
    Does no one else care to have matching stabs for all the Gaterons that were bought?

    WAS keyboards has costar stabilizers.

    I honestly couldn't care about matching stabilizer colors. Or even clear switch tops and stickers. Hard to care about something you'll see maybe once a month. Rest of the time it's covered by keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 19 March 2015, 09:19:14
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 19 March 2015, 08:37:20
    WTF is up with the shark girls?

    Five different people's avatars: http://imgur.com/a/qYjZZ

    This absolutely won't help clear things up, but here goes: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42336.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 18:49:38
    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:49:52
    Is there any place outside of taobao that sells white costar stab mounts?
    I only see white inserts. Also odd that there aren't black inserts either, even though I only want white.
    Does no one else care to have matching stabs for all the Gaterons that were bought?
    I don't think I've ever seen black costar inserts
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sypl on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:04:14
    What diameter and thickness shoud o-rings be for cherry keys? I just wanna get generic ones at a hardware store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:06:51
    Do switch panel cutouts generally work with both Matias and Cherry switches? I ordered two Infinity keyboard kits--one hacker layout with Matias switches and one standard layout with Cherry switches. But I'm thinking about switching those around and doing the hacker layout with cherries.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:55:02
    What are tuned cherry stabilizers? I know you can clip the stabs, but what else can you do? I see Duck and GON mentioning this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:56:59
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:55:02
    What are tuned cherry stabilizers? I know you can clip the stabs, but what else can you do? I see Duck and GON mentioning this.
    lube them? not really sure beyond that
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 19 March 2015, 21:00:36
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:55:02
    What are tuned cherry stabilizers? I know you can clip the stabs, but what else can you do? I see Duck and GON mentioning this.

    clip the stabilizers, and lube them.  You can also "shave" the mold line too, but I am not sure GON and Duck do that or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 21:12:07
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 19 March 2015, 21:00:36
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:55:02
    What are tuned cherry stabilizers? I know you can clip the stabs, but what else can you do? I see Duck and GON mentioning this.

    clip the stabilizers, and lube them.  You can also "shave" the mold line too, but I am not sure GON and Duck do that or not.

    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:56:59
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:55:02
    What are tuned cherry stabilizers? I know you can clip the stabs, but what else can you do? I see Duck and GON mentioning this.
    lube them? not really sure beyond that

    Thanks for the replies!

    Here's the video I'm referring to.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 21:17:37
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 21:12:07
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 19 March 2015, 21:00:36
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:55:02
    What are tuned cherry stabilizers? I know you can clip the stabs, but what else can you do? I see Duck and GON mentioning this.

    clip the stabilizers, and lube them.  You can also "shave" the mold line too, but I am not sure GON and Duck do that or not.

    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:56:59
    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:55:02
    What are tuned cherry stabilizers? I know you can clip the stabs, but what else can you do? I see Duck and GON mentioning this.
    lube them? not really sure beyond that

    Thanks for the replies!

    Here's the video I'm referring to.

    it almost looks like #3 has a spring in it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 19 March 2015, 23:57:38
    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:49:52
    Is there any place outside of taobao that sells white costar stab mounts?
    I only see white inserts. Also odd that there aren't black inserts either, even though I only want white.
    Does no one else care to have matching stabs for all the Gaterons that were bought?

    The Tex Yoda came with white costar stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 20 March 2015, 00:43:47
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:06:51
    Do switch panel cutouts generally work with both Matias and Cherry switches? I ordered two Infinity keyboard kits--one hacker layout with Matias switches and one standard layout with Cherry switches. But I'm thinking about switching those around and doing the hacker layout with cherries.

    In case of the Infinity that should work njbair, yes.  :)

    Plate cut outs don't generally support both Matias and Cherry switches as far as I know,
    but I'm pretty sure the Infinity uses hybrid style cut outs to support both Matias and Cherry switches.

    Looking at the Infinity plate you can even see how the switch cutouts look slightly cross/plus (+) shaped which was done for
    exactly this reason I guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 March 2015, 05:43:37
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:06:51
    Do switch panel cutouts generally work with both Matias and Cherry switches? I ordered two Infinity keyboard kits--one hacker layout with Matias switches and one standard layout with Cherry switches. But I'm thinking about switching those around and doing the hacker layout with cherries.

    The plate cutouts need to be specifically designed to take both switches. The dimensions aren't the same.

    Quote from: sypl on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:04:14
    What diameter and thickness shoud o-rings be for cherry keys? I just wanna get generic ones at a hardware store.

    Check out this thread for more info (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53990.0).

    Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 19 March 2015, 21:12:07
    What are tuned cherry stabilizers? I know you can clip the stabs, but what else can you do? I see Duck and GON mentioning this.

    Thanks for the replies!

    Here's the video I'm referring to.


    Why don't you ask GON in his subforum (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43915.0)? He's got a thread just for questions and is usually responsive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:16:24
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 18 March 2015, 17:10:37
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 March 2015, 22:27:32
    to practice soldering switches, i'm thinking of acquiring some cheap,

    For $25 each (or less, if you are lucky):

    Buy a Dell AT101(W) for a chassis and an Apple Extended Keyboard (or II) for a donor and do your practice soldering and de-soldering on the Apple.

    You can take the Apple completely apart for practice, and after you are finished with the project, you will have a perfectly good working keyboard and partial set of spare Alps caps.

    So let me get this straight...you buy a Dell AT101W and an AEKII on Ebay for super cheap, then desolder the switches from the AEK and replace the Dell's switches with the ones you removed from the Apple? And you end up with a Dell AT101W with nice Apple ALPS switches. Is that right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:19:43
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:16:24
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 18 March 2015, 17:10:37
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Tue, 17 March 2015, 22:27:32
    to practice soldering switches, i'm thinking of acquiring some cheap,

    For $25 each (or less, if you are lucky):

    Buy a Dell AT101(W) for a chassis and an Apple Extended Keyboard (or II) for a donor and do your practice soldering and de-soldering on the Apple.

    You can take the Apple completely apart for practice, and after you are finished with the project, you will have a perfectly good working keyboard and partial set of spare Alps caps.

    So let me get this straight...you buy a Dell AT101W and an AEKII on Ebay for super cheap, then desolder the switches from the AEK and replace the Dell's switches with the ones you removed from the Apple? And you end up with a Dell AT101W with nice Apple ALPS switches. Is that right?

    Correct. Best ANSI layout (Dell AT101W) with nicer switches than black Alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sypl on Fri, 20 March 2015, 23:26:38
    Quote from: sypl on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:04:14
    What diameter and thickness shoud o-rings be for cherry keys? I just wanna get generic ones at a hardware store.

    Check out this thread for more info (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53990.0).

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Sat, 21 March 2015, 06:10:11
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 19 March 2015, 23:57:38
    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:49:52
    Is there any place outside of taobao that sells white costar stab mounts?
    I only see white inserts. Also odd that there aren't black inserts either, even though I only want white.
    Does no one else care to have matching stabs for all the Gaterons that were bought?

    The Tex Yoda came with white costar stabilizers.
    This guy knows what I'm looking for.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 March 2015, 08:38:22
    WAS keyboards has costar stabilizers.
    I honestly couldn't care about matching stabilizer colors. Or even clear switch tops and stickers. Hard to care about something you'll see maybe once a month. Rest of the time it's covered by keycaps.
    I'm trying to make one of those sandwich boards with the exposed plate as the top layer (not sure what they are called), so I will probably see the bottom row all the time.
    I'm even considering backlighting the stabs if the white ones are translucent enough lol.

    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 18:49:38
    I don't think I've ever seen black costar inserts
    On taobao apparently they have black or white for both inserts and mounts.

    I actually had someone contact a taobao vendor for me, but I think they were ignored because it was such a small volume. =(
    I'm not too fond of having accidents and confusion multiplied by a middleman, so I've given up on that method for now. That's why I'm trying to find another source.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 21 March 2015, 10:48:26
    Is there any benefit to doing a bolt mod on a Model M if there are no broken rivets or should I just consider myself lucky?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 21 March 2015, 10:53:32
    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 21 March 2015, 10:48:26
    Is there any benefit to doing a bolt mod on a Model M if there are no broken rivets or should I just consider myself lucky?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54745.0

    :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:03:33
    How old do MX browns have to be before they are considered vintage?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:57:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:03:33
    How old do MX browns have to be before they are considered vintage?

    "Vintage" doesn't matter, broken in does.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:59:15
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:57:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:03:33
    How old do MX browns have to be before they are considered vintage?

    "Vintage" doesn't matter, broken in does.
    So ~10yrs old and used enough to shine cherry double shots should be good then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 17:01:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:59:15
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:57:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:03:33
    How old do MX browns have to be before they are considered vintage?

    "Vintage" doesn't matter, broken in does.
    So ~10yrs old and used enough to shine cherry double shots should be good then.

    Probably.  If they actually feel good, they're broken in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 21 March 2015, 17:08:34
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 17:01:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:59:15
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:57:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:03:33
    How old do MX browns have to be before they are considered vintage?

    "Vintage" doesn't matter, broken in does.
    So ~10yrs old and used enough to shine cherry double shots should be good then.

    Probably.  If they actually feel good, they're broken in.

    The brown in my MX5000 actually feel different and better than other brown, but I don't thank the board have been used more than 20 hours, so I think there is some different between the old one and new one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 17:26:22
    And I've had "vintage" Brown boards that felt like crap.   Until someone does an analysis of the lube and lube points and of the plastics I'll still stand by the "vintage" placebo claim.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 21 March 2015, 23:49:51
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 17:26:22
    And I've had "vintage" Brown boards that felt like crap.   Until someone does an analysis of the lube and lube points and of the plastics I'll still stand by the "vintage" placebo claim.

    I have what I would call "vintage" clears. they were dry also and in need of some lube. after lubing I can not tell the difference between "vintage" clears and new ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:47:16
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.
    That amazon link is in stock, and you are going to get plastic powder coated?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:53:56
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:47:16
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.
    That amazon link is in stock, and you are going to get plastic powder coated?

    Well it says it will be in stock on April 21. But last time they put an in-stock date, the date came and went and they moved it back to April 21. And regarding powdercoating, I spoke carelessly. I meant clear-coating like a body shop does. Clear coating is clear I know, but painting it first was implied.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Mon, 23 March 2015, 08:27:26
    How do I put my replacement Filco feet in my board. I don't want to force it and have to buy another pair. Do I have to open the keyboard or am I just silly?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 March 2015, 08:33:07
    Quote from: cannonking on Mon, 23 March 2015, 08:27:26
    How do I put my replacement Filco feet in my board. I don't want to force it and have to buy another pair. Do I have to open the keyboard or am I just silly?

    You don't have to open the keyboard. They just press fit in there. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:05:18
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.

    Don't know if you'd be interested but just saw these on /r/mechmarket. (http://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/301gbx/wtsca_us_5_complete_dolch_pac_keyboards_wvintage/)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:10:52
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:05:18
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.

    Don't know if you'd be interested but just saw these on /r/mechmarket. (http://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/301gbx/wtsca_us_5_complete_dolch_pac_keyboards_wvintage/)
    They are overpriced on MechMarket, would not recommend buying them from him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:17:51
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:10:52
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:05:18
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.

    Don't know if you'd be interested but just saw these on /r/mechmarket. (http://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/301gbx/wtsca_us_5_complete_dolch_pac_keyboards_wvintage/)
    They are overpriced on MechMarket, would not recommend buying them from him.

    What would you say is a fair price and where could I find one around said price? Pretty much all the ones I've seen run $120+ so I figured that $150 was close to par for the course.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:19:54

    Quote from: greath on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:17:51
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:10:52
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:05:18
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.

    Don't know if you'd be interested but just saw these on /r/mechmarket. (http://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/301gbx/wtsca_us_5_complete_dolch_pac_keyboards_wvintage/)
    They are overpriced on MechMarket, would not recommend buying them from him.

    What would you say is a fair price and where could I find one around said price? Pretty much all the ones I've seen run $120+ so I figured that $150 was close to par for the course.
    You just have to wait it out, I bought a dolch pac computer off of eBay for 130 and it came with the keyboard I think there is one on eBay right now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:55:02
     ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 23 March 2015, 16:06:54
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:10:52
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:05:18
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.

    Don't know if you'd be interested but just saw these on /r/mechmarket. (http://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/301gbx/wtsca_us_5_complete_dolch_pac_keyboards_wvintage/)
    They are overpriced on MechMarket, would not recommend buying them from him.

    Quote from: greath on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:05:18
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.

    Don't know if you'd be interested but just saw these on /r/mechmarket. (http://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/301gbx/wtsca_us_5_complete_dolch_pac_keyboards_wvintage/)

    I'll hold off for now...I've got some other irons in the fire on Ebay and I don't want to overextend my wallet. If he's still looking to sell in a month or so maybe I can ask for a better price than $150. We'll see. But thanks for the link!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hoankinhcan on Mon, 23 March 2015, 19:13:42
    Can I ask a simple question: KPB V80 or Ducky Shine 3 TKL 2nd ? Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 23 March 2015, 19:21:33
    Quote from: hoankinhcan on Mon, 23 March 2015, 19:13:42
    Can I ask a simple question: KPB V80 or Ducky Shine 3 TKL 2nd ? Thanks.
    I can vouch for Ducky. My full size Shine 3 is built like a tank, but slightly heavier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:05:11
    Quote from: hoankinhcan on Mon, 23 March 2015, 19:13:42
    Can I ask a simple question: KPB V80 or Ducky Shine 3 TKL 2nd ? Thanks.

    I've not tried the V80 so I can't say anything good or bad. I will say that Ducky's keyboards have impressed me in the past and I think the Shine 3 would be a solid pickup.


    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 15:31:08
    Does anyone know where I can buy a brand new Cherry G80-1800? As much as I would love a Dolch PAC version, I'm willing to settle for new and maybe just have the case powdercoated, etc. to look more custom.

    I see this one on Amazon (http://amzn.com/B00PDDA2B6) but it's been out of stock for a while.

    I've found new in package and new in box Cherry keyboards on eBay before. Takes a little hunting though. I don't know where else to look but perhaps Photekq or IvanIvanovich may know. You could try PMing them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trigun0x2 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:08:21
    I want to get started with building my own boards. Is there a list of things I can buy or should I just buy a kit? (which is cheaper?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:12:27
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:08:21
    I want to get started with building my own boards. Is there a list of things I can buy or should I just buy a kit? (which is cheaper?)

    You can do either. Some kits come with some stuff, some kits come with all the stuff, sometimes you just buy everything separately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:12:33
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:08:21
    I want to get started with building my own boards. Is there a list of things I can buy or should I just buy a kit? (which is cheaper?)

    Here's a rough price estimate of a DIY keyboard from the OP (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_GGGG). I suppose it depends on what you want from your board. A kit isn't necessarily cheaper but it does save you from spending a lot of time designing and troubleshooting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trigun0x2 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 12:06:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:12:33
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:08:21
    I want to get started with building my own boards. Is there a list of things I can buy or should I just buy a kit? (which is cheaper?)

    Here's a rough price estimate of a DIY keyboard from the OP (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_GGGG). I suppose it depends on what you want from your board. A kit isn't necessarily cheaper but it does save you from spending a lot of time designing and troubleshooting.

    Thanks! That helps a lot!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Corey on Tue, 24 March 2015, 17:10:55
    I have a Model M2 in the mail, recently refurbished by the previous owner but it is lacking the kick out feet. I'm not even sure how they work, or if I will use them, but it would be nice to know whether they are replaceable and if so where to get them.

    Thanks in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 24 March 2015, 17:12:11
    Quote from: Corey on Tue, 24 March 2015, 17:10:55
    I have a Model M2 in the mail, recently refurbished by the previous owner but it is lacking the kick out feet. I'm not even sure how they work, or if I will use them, but it would be nice to know whether they are replaceable and if so where to get them.

    Thanks in advance.

    You're going to have to find a broken M2 for sale for parts on Ebay or something. Nobody makes those things new...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:00:18
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 24 March 2015, 17:12:11
    Quote from: Corey on Tue, 24 March 2015, 17:10:55
    I have a Model M2 in the mail, recently refurbished by the previous owner but it is lacking the kick out feet. I'm not even sure how they work, or if I will use them, but it would be nice to know whether they are replaceable and if so where to get them.

    Thanks in advance.

    You're going to have to find a broken M2 for sale for parts on Ebay or something. Nobody makes those things new...

    You sure about that njbair? Have either of you guys tried emailing Unicomp to see if they have anything in stock?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:41:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:00:18
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 24 March 2015, 17:12:11
    Quote from: Corey on Tue, 24 March 2015, 17:10:55
    I have a Model M2 in the mail, recently refurbished by the previous owner but it is lacking the kick out feet. I'm not even sure how they work, or if I will use them, but it would be nice to know whether they are replaceable and if so where to get them.

    Thanks in advance.

    You're going to have to find a broken M2 for sale for parts on Ebay or something. Nobody makes those things new...

    You sure about that njbair? Have either of you guys tried emailing Unicomp to see if they have anything in stock?

    For an M2? Those are different from the Model M feet, no?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:43:15
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:41:44
    For an M2? Those are different from the Model M feet, no?

    Right, they could be different. But Unicomp has a lot of random IBM stuff and shooting them a quick email can't hurt. Or you can send them a message in their customer service page.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:47:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:43:15
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:41:44
    For an M2? Those are different from the Model M feet, no?

    Right, they could be different. But Unicomp has a lot of random IBM stuff and shooting them a quick email can't hurt. Or you can send them a message in their customer service page.

    You're right, couldn't hurt. Shouldn't have admitted defeat so quickly...

    ^ Listen to this guy, OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kady955 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:25:06
    The Rapid-i case can be painted like the old qfr?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:35:33
    Quote from: Kady955 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:25:06
    The Rapid-i case can be painted like the old qfr?

    I don't see why it couldn't be.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kady955 on Wed, 25 March 2015, 03:13:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:35:33
    Quote from: Kady955 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:25:06
    The Rapid-i case can be painted like the old qfr?

    I don't see why it couldn't be.
    I've heard its rubberised
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 March 2015, 04:45:41
    Quote from: Kady955 on Wed, 25 March 2015, 03:13:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:35:33
    Quote from: Kady955 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:25:06
    The Rapid-i case can be painted like the old qfr?

    I don't see why it couldn't be.
    I've heard its rubberised

    Sand the rubberised coating off first.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oledome on Wed, 25 March 2015, 08:21:48
    The Cherry G81-1800 has Cherry MY switches, the G80-1800 has MX. I want to use the housing to make my own MX ISO board. I can get a G81 for a lot less than a G80.

    (http://i.imgur.com/8V3Uh5e.jpg)

    - Would a PCB for MX switches fit both G80 and G81 housings the same?
    - What are my 1800 PCB ISO options right now?
    - Is modding an existing G80 PCB an option? More expensive for the keyboard but I don't have to look for a PCB if that is the case.

    I was a bit put out the 1800 group buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68443.0) PCB is not ISO compatible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 08:55:46
    Quote from: oledome on Wed, 25 March 2015, 08:21:48
    1) Would a PCB for MX switches fit both G80 and G81 housings the same?
    2) What are my 1800 PCB ISO options right now?
    3) Is modding an existing G80 PCB an option? More expensive for the keyboard but I don't have to look for a PCB if that is the case.

    1) Maybe, it really depends on the case. For example, a G80-8XXX PCB wouldn't fit in a a G81-3XXX case.
    2) Only PCBs I know of are ISO 1800s. There's no aftermarket PCBs besides the Leeku one.
    3) Yes. Check this thread out from DT (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/iso-to-ansi-t155.html) or Infiniti's thread out (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62638.0)


    Quote from: Kady955 on Wed, 25 March 2015, 03:13:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:35:33
    Quote from: Kady955 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:25:06
    The Rapid-i case can be painted like the old qfr?

    I don't see why it couldn't be.
    I've heard its rubberised

    I suggest reading through this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44191.0). Covers what to do if the top is rubberized.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 13:36:56
    Let's talk stabs:

    TypePlate MountPCB Mount
    CostarYN
    CherryNY

    What else do I need to know?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 13:42:03
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 13:36:56
    Let's talk stabs:

    TypePlate MountPCB Mount
    CostarYN
    CherryYY

    What else do I need to know?

    I corrected one thing, there are Cherry plate mount stabilizers.

    Do you have a more specific question?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:14:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 13:42:03
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 13:36:56
    Let's talk stabs:

    TypePlate MountPCB Mount
    CostarYN
    CherryYY

    What else do I need to know?

    I corrected one thing, there are Cherry plate mount stabilizers.

    Do you have a more specific question?

    Thanks!

    I'm just trying to understand what I need to know when designing a PCB and Plate, I guess you can design a PCB that works with all 3 types? The plate would have to be specific to the type, I assume.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:17:38
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:14:40
    I'm just trying to understand what I need to know when designing a PCB and Plate, I guess you can design a PCB that works with all 3 types? The plate would have to be specific to the type, I assume.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser#Cherry

    The thing you have to account for with a PCB mounted Cherry is extra holes in the PCB. That's how the Cherry PCB mounted stabilizers work. They lock into the PCB. Cherry plate mounted fit into the plate. Look at the DT article for more detail.

    JD has a plate cutout that will incorporate a Cherry or Costar stabilizer. It's definitely possible to make and pretty easy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:37:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:17:38
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:14:40
    I'm just trying to understand what I need to know when designing a PCB and Plate, I guess you can design a PCB that works with all 3 types? The plate would have to be specific to the type, I assume.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser#Cherry

    The thing you have to account for with a PCB mounted Cherry is extra holes in the PCB. That's how the Cherry PCB mounted stabilizers work. They lock into the PCB. Cherry plate mounted fit into the plate. Look at the DT article for more detail.

    JD has a plate cutout that will incorporate a Cherry or Costar stabilizer. It's definitely possible to make and pretty easy.

    Is there any advantage of plate vs PCB for Cherry stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:38:49
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:37:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:17:38
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:14:40
    I'm just trying to understand what I need to know when designing a PCB and Plate, I guess you can design a PCB that works with all 3 types? The plate would have to be specific to the type, I assume.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser#Cherry

    The thing you have to account for with a PCB mounted Cherry is extra holes in the PCB. That's how the Cherry PCB mounted stabilizers work. They lock into the PCB. Cherry plate mounted fit into the plate. Look at the DT article for more detail.

    JD has a plate cutout that will incorporate a Cherry or Costar stabilizer. It's definitely possible to make and pretty easy.

    Is there any advantage of plate vs PCB for Cherry stabs?

    The only advantage is when you are designing the keyboard, and you can't fit the stabilizer holes in the PCB due to some switch locations. If you have a PCB that can accept PCB mount stabs, I'd use those every time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:07:09
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:38:49
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:37:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:17:38
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:14:40
    I'm just trying to understand what I need to know when designing a PCB and Plate, I guess you can design a PCB that works with all 3 types? The plate would have to be specific to the type, I assume.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser#Cherry

    The thing you have to account for with a PCB mounted Cherry is extra holes in the PCB. That's how the Cherry PCB mounted stabilizers work. They lock into the PCB. Cherry plate mounted fit into the plate. Look at the DT article for more detail.

    JD has a plate cutout that will incorporate a Cherry or Costar stabilizer. It's definitely possible to make and pretty easy.

    Is there any advantage of plate vs PCB for Cherry stabs?

    The only advantage is when you are designing the keyboard, and you can't fit the stabilizer holes in the PCB due to some switch locations. If you have a PCB that can accept PCB mount stabs, I'd use those every time.
    Why? Better feel/stability?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:11:29
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:07:09
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:38:49

    The only advantage is when you are designing the keyboard, and you can't fit the stabilizer holes in the PCB due to some switch locations. If you have a PCB that can accept PCB mount stabs, I'd use those every time.

    Why? Better feel/stability?

    I'll take PCB mounted every time. I've ripped out plate mounted stabilizers before. Never ripped out PCB mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:14:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:11:29
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:07:09
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:38:49

    The only advantage is when you are designing the keyboard, and you can't fit the stabilizer holes in the PCB due to some switch locations. If you have a PCB that can accept PCB mount stabs, I'd use those every time.

    Why? Better feel/stability?

    I'll take PCB mounted every time. I've ripped out plate mounted stabilizers before. Never ripped out PCB mounted.

    I used to rip out the PCB mount stabilizers on my Poker X all the time. :D

    If the plate mount stabilizer holes don't have the notches to accomodate Costar stabs as well, there is little chance of pulling them out of the plate unintentionally. They clip in really well.

    That said, I still prefer the feel of PCB mount stabs over plate mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:36:43
    Thanks for the input CptJD and BadassCarpe!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 25 March 2015, 16:44:34
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:14:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:11:29
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:07:09
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:38:49

    The only advantage is when you are designing the keyboard, and you can't fit the stabilizer holes in the PCB due to some switch locations. If you have a PCB that can accept PCB mount stabs, I'd use those every time.

    Why? Better feel/stability?

    I'll take PCB mounted every time. I've ripped out plate mounted stabilizers before. Never ripped out PCB mounted.

    I used to rip out the PCB mount stabilizers on my Poker X all the time. :D

    If the plate mount stabilizer holes don't have the notches to accomodate Costar stabs as well, there is little chance of pulling them out of the plate unintentionally. They clip in really well.

    That said, I still prefer the feel of PCB mount stabs over plate mount.


    Do you prefer them because of its feeling?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 16:46:36
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 25 March 2015, 16:44:34
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:14:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:11:29
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:07:09
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:38:49

    The only advantage is when you are designing the keyboard, and you can't fit the stabilizer holes in the PCB due to some switch locations. If you have a PCB that can accept PCB mount stabs, I'd use those every time.

    Why? Better feel/stability?

    I'll take PCB mounted every time. I've ripped out plate mounted stabilizers before. Never ripped out PCB mounted.

    I used to rip out the PCB mount stabilizers on my Poker X all the time. :D

    If the plate mount stabilizer holes don't have the notches to accomodate Costar stabs as well, there is little chance of pulling them out of the plate unintentionally. They clip in really well.

    That said, I still prefer the feel of PCB mount stabs over plate mount.


    Do you prefer them because of its feeling?

    Yes, I do. And also because they seem to mount to the PCB easier than plate mount do to a plate. There is always some fiddling required with plate mount stabs to get them seated just right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 25 March 2015, 16:49:23
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 16:46:36
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 25 March 2015, 16:44:34
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:14:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:11:29
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:07:09
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:38:49

    The only advantage is when you are designing the keyboard, and you can't fit the stabilizer holes in the PCB due to some switch locations. If you have a PCB that can accept PCB mount stabs, I'd use those every time.

    Why? Better feel/stability?

    I'll take PCB mounted every time. I've ripped out plate mounted stabilizers before. Never ripped out PCB mounted.

    I used to rip out the PCB mount stabilizers on my Poker X all the time. :D

    If the plate mount stabilizer holes don't have the notches to accomodate Costar stabs as well, there is little chance of pulling them out of the plate unintentionally. They clip in really well.

    That said, I still prefer the feel of PCB mount stabs over plate mount.


    Do you prefer them because of its feeling?

    Yes, I do. And also because they seem to mount to the PCB easier than plate mount do to a plate. There is always some fiddling required with plate mount stabs to get them seated just right.


    Interesting. I will put together a Nerd60 soon, and the only thing I am not sure about are precisely the PCB stabilizers. Thank you for the feedback, I will give them a try.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: imadeanaccounttoseepics on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:17:40
    Hey, is there a list of recommended keyboards for each switch/company/price point? There is so many to choose from nowadays and by being out of the loop i have no clue which brand is reliable for the price as i hear build quality might have changed due to manufacturing and what not.

    There should be an updated list where you can fill out a questionnaire and at the end it will generate you a list of what brand/switch that matches your requirements - that would be awesome lol. ex: backlit, sub $100 price point, clicky or tactile, tkl, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:22:05
    Quote from: imadeanaccounttoseepics on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:17:40
    Hey, is there a list of recommended keyboards for each switch/company/price point? There is so many to choose from nowadays and by being out of the loop i have no clue which brand is reliable for the price as i hear build quality might have changed due to manufacturing and what not.

    There should be an updated list where you can fill out a questionnaire and at the end it will generate you a list of what brand/switch that matches your requirements - that would be awesome lol. ex: backlit, sub $100 price point, clicky or tactile, tkl, etc.
    https://www.keychatter.com/buyers-guide/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oledome on Thu, 26 March 2015, 08:12:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 March 2015, 08:55:46
    Quote from: oledome on Wed, 25 March 2015, 08:21:48
    1) Would a PCB for MX switches fit both G80 and G81 housings the same?
    2) What are my 1800 PCB ISO options right now?
    3) Is modding an existing G80 PCB an option? More expensive for the keyboard but I don't have to look for a PCB if that is the case.

    1) Maybe, it really depends on the case. For example, a G80-8XXX PCB wouldn't fit in a a G81-3XXX case.
    2) Only PCBs I know of are ISO 1800s. There's no aftermarket PCBs besides the Leeku one.
    3) Yes. Check this thread out from DT (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/iso-to-ansi-t155.html) or Infiniti's thread out (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62638.0)
    Thanks that helps, since my PCB options are what they are I guess buying a G81-1800 and modding it is the way to go. Between the G80 and G81, I was talking about the 1800 specifically and whether both housings would be the same, I should have been more specific.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 March 2015, 08:49:35
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:22:05
    Quote from: imadeanaccounttoseepics on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:17:40
    Hey, is there a list of recommended keyboards for each switch/company/price point? There is so many to choose from nowadays and by being out of the loop i have no clue which brand is reliable for the price as i hear build quality might have changed due to manufacturing and what not.

    There should be an updated list where you can fill out a questionnaire and at the end it will generate you a list of what brand/switch that matches your requirements - that would be awesome lol. ex: backlit, sub $100 price point, clicky or tactile, tkl, etc.
    https://www.keychatter.com/buyers-guide/

    In addition, mashby's site has a decent 60% list (http://cpkey.com/keyboards/) and reddit has a few buying guides (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/mechanical_keyboard_overviews).

    In general, the questionnaire isn't a bad idea. But I think it's a little like going to SEMA or Sturgis and asking someone there what a good car or bike is. You're going to get really passionate, opinionated responses which may or may not help you. Researching for stuff that you care about will help you more in my opinion. For example, if you like backlighting, then you may want to look into Ducky keyboards. But some people despise backlighting and will tell you to stay away from it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: imadeanaccounttoseepics on Thu, 26 March 2015, 14:45:15
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:22:05
    Quote from: imadeanaccounttoseepics on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:17:40
    Hey, is there a list of recommended keyboards for each switch/company/price point? There is so many to choose from nowadays and by being out of the loop i have no clue which brand is reliable for the price as i hear build quality might have changed due to manufacturing and what not.

    There should be an updated list where you can fill out a questionnaire and at the end it will generate you a list of what brand/switch that matches your requirements - that would be awesome lol. ex: backlit, sub $100 price point, clicky or tactile, tkl, etc.
    https://www.keychatter.com/buyers-guide/

    Thanks for that.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 March 2015, 08:49:35
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:22:05
    Quote from: imadeanaccounttoseepics on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:17:40
    Hey, is there a list of recommended keyboards for each switch/company/price point? There is so many to choose from nowadays and by being out of the loop i have no clue which brand is reliable for the price as i hear build quality might have changed due to manufacturing and what not.

    There should be an updated list where you can fill out a questionnaire and at the end it will generate you a list of what brand/switch that matches your requirements - that would be awesome lol. ex: backlit, sub $100 price point, clicky or tactile, tkl, etc.
    https://www.keychatter.com/buyers-guide/

    In addition, mashby's site has a decent 60% list (http://cpkey.com/keyboards/) and reddit has a few buying guides (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/mechanical_keyboard_overviews).

    In general, the questionnaire isn't a bad idea. But I think it's a little like going to SEMA or Sturgis and asking someone there what a good car or bike is. You're going to get really passionate, opinionated responses which may or may not help you. Researching for stuff that you care about will help you more in my opinion. For example, if you like backlighting, then you may want to look into Ducky keyboards. But some people despise backlighting and will tell you to stay away from it.

    Yeah i understand since everyone's opinion is different, what i meant is that the keyboards suggested has user submitted reviews or some type of voting system and not have "one" user recommend keyboards for all. Kind of a general community review for which keyboard is the best with backlighting, tkl, blue keycaps, etc. Like there would be a poll and people would vote for this criteria of keyboard, then they would vote on the next criteria. Best build quality, with backlight, full size, then same thing but with 60%, then TKL, etc if the certain company doesn't offer it in all sizes. Usually the keyboards come in a different variety of switches so the switches shouldn't be listed.

    I make it sound like it's so easy but it's not, but if enough work is put into it then i could see it helping a lot of people out that are new to the mechanical keyboard scene or if they've been out of the loop for too long.



    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:34:55
    Is there any shop/place where I can buy cherry pcb mount stabilizers for a numpad?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:36:49
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:34:55
    Is there any shop/place where I can buy cherry pcb mount stabilizers for a numpad?

    GON
    imsto
    Mouser might still
    Classifieds

    I really wish there was a source Stateside for stabilizers. AFAIK, Mouser is out of stock and I heard GON and imsto's shipping fees are crazy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:58:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:36:49
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:34:55
    Is there any shop/place where I can buy cherry pcb mount stabilizers for a numpad?

    GON
    imsto
    Mouser might still
    Classifieds

    I really wish there was a source Stateside for stabilizers. AFAIK, Mouser is out of stock and I heard GON and imsto's shipping fees are crazy.


    GON's a TKL set, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 26 March 2015, 20:02:04
    Check Arrow (http://www.arrow.com/components/), this was where I found some last time a few months ago.  Just search by Cherry's part number
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:34:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:36:49
    Quote from: HPE1000 on Thu, 26 March 2015, 19:34:55
    Is there any shop/place where I can buy cherry pcb mount stabilizers for a numpad?

    GON
    imsto
    Mouser might still
    Classifieds

    I really wish there was a source Stateside for stabilizers. AFAIK, Mouser is out of stock and I heard GON and imsto's shipping fees are crazy.

    The new Winkeyless store has some too: http://winkeyless.kr/?product=cherry-pcb-mount-stabilizers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Fri, 27 March 2015, 19:25:43
    Is there a way to prevent ABS keycaps from getting sticky? My hands sweat quite a bit. As a result, my keycaps often feel a little sticky even if I wash my hands and wipe the keycaps pretty often. PBT seems to solve this problem but it's hard to find PBT caps for my V60 with Matias switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:00:54
    I'm trying to make a PS2 to USB converter for my Model M.  I was using a Teensy 2.0 with the TMK Firmware, but I may have accidentally destroyed the traces on the Teensy.

    Now I have one of the new Teensy LC things.  So I need something that works with the ARM architecture.  This will be my first time tangling with ARM instead of atMEGA.  I might be able to adapt something that has previously worked with the Teensy 3.x versions.  Any thoughts on what I should try?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:09:36
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:00:54
    I'm trying to make a PS2 to USB converter for my Model M.  I was using a Teensy 2.0 with the TMK Firmware, but I may have accidentally destroyed the traces on the Teensy.

    Now I have one of the new Teensy LC things.  So I need something that works with the ARM architecture.  This will be my first time tangling with ARM instead of atMEGA.  I might be able to adapt something that has previously worked with the Teensy 3.x versions.  Any thoughts on what I should try?
    Why not just buy one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001BPII48/ref=pd_aw_sim_e_3?refRID=1V6HW99EBA8NNQQE6D5R)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:26:38
    (http://www.diatec.co.jp/image_prod/FKBN91MLJB2_01.jpg)

    What are the sizes of the bottom row keycaps in this JIS filco?

    Where can I buy the feet for this case (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=212)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:27:21
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:09:36
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:00:54
    I'm trying to make a PS2 to USB converter for my Model M.  I was using a Teensy 2.0 with the TMK Firmware, but I may have accidentally destroyed the traces on the Teensy.

    Now I have one of the new Teensy LC things.  So I need something that works with the ARM architecture.  This will be my first time tangling with ARM instead of atMEGA.  I might be able to adapt something that has previously worked with the Teensy 3.x versions.  Any thoughts on what I should try?
    Why not just buy one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001BPII48/ref=pd_aw_sim_e_3?refRID=1V6HW99EBA8NNQQE6D5R)?

    1. That is no fun
    2. It actually hashad an SDL connection.  I want to hardwire something internally doesn't require a spare donglemajig.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:29:08
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:27:21
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:09:36
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:00:54
    I'm trying to make a PS2 to USB converter for my Model M.  I was using a Teensy 2.0 with the TMK Firmware, but I may have accidentally destroyed the traces on the Teensy.

    Now I have one of the new Teensy LC things.  So I need something that works with the ARM architecture.  This will be my first time tangling with ARM instead of atMEGA.  I might be able to adapt something that has previously worked with the Teensy 3.x versions.  Any thoughts on what I should try?
    Why not just buy one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001BPII48/ref=pd_aw_sim_e_3?refRID=1V6HW99EBA8NNQQE6D5R)?

    1. That is no fun
    2. It actually hashad an SDL connection.  I want to hardwire something internally doesn't require a spare donglemajig.
    No fun maybe, but it was a simple answer!

    You may be better off asking this in one of the making stuff forums.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:30:33
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:29:08
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:27:21
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:09:36
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:00:54
    I'm trying to make a PS2 to USB converter for my Model M.  I was using a Teensy 2.0 with the TMK Firmware, but I may have accidentally destroyed the traces on the Teensy.

    Now I have one of the new Teensy LC things.  So I need something that works with the ARM architecture.  This will be my first time tangling with ARM instead of atMEGA.  I might be able to adapt something that has previously worked with the Teensy 3.x versions.  Any thoughts on what I should try?
    Why not just buy one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001BPII48/ref=pd_aw_sim_e_3?refRID=1V6HW99EBA8NNQQE6D5R)?

    1. That is no fun
    2. It actually hashad an SDL connection.  I want to hardwire something internally doesn't require a spare donglemajig.
    No fun maybe, but it was a simple answer!

    You may be better off asking this in one of the making stuff forums.

    Fair 'nuff.  Thanks for extending the effort to help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:18:12
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:26:38
    Show Image
    (http://www.diatec.co.jp/image_prod/FKBN91MLJB2_01.jpg)


    What are the sizes of the bottom row keycaps in this JIS filco?

    Based on that picture, it looks to be: 1.25 - 1 - 1.25 - 1 - 4.5 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1 - 1.25
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:50:04
    Quote from: ctm on Fri, 27 March 2015, 19:25:43
    Is there a way to prevent ABS keycaps from getting sticky? My hands sweat quite a bit. As a result, my keycaps often feel a little sticky even if I wash my hands and wipe the keycaps pretty often. PBT seems to solve this problem but it's hard to find PBT caps for my V60 with Matias switches.

    You could try painting the caps with clear nail polish.

    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:00:54
    I'm trying to make a PS2 to USB converter for my Model M.  I was using a Teensy 2.0 with the TMK Firmware, but I may have accidentally destroyed the traces on the Teensy.

    Now I have one of the new Teensy LC things.  So I need something that works with the ARM architecture.  This will be my first time tangling with ARM instead of atMEGA.  I might be able to adapt something that has previously worked with the Teensy 3.x versions.  Any thoughts on what I should try?

    I have no idea what a Teensy LC even is. And I think that's far beyond the scope of this thread. I suggest you create a new thread for that.

    On a side note, orihalcon sells SDL to USB cables. But they're a little pricey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:56:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:50:04
    Quote from: ctm on Fri, 27 March 2015, 19:25:43
    Is there a way to prevent ABS keycaps from getting sticky? My hands sweat quite a bit. As a result, my keycaps often feel a little sticky even if I wash my hands and wipe the keycaps pretty often. PBT seems to solve this problem but it's hard to find PBT caps for my V60 with Matias switches.

    You could try painting the caps with clear nail polish.


    If you don't need the legends you could try plastidip from a rattle can.  If you don't like it, it just peels right off. 

    CBA, essentially the Teensy LC is a 3.x with some features removed but still ARM based vs Atmega based.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:01:39
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:56:38
    CBA, essentially the Teensy LC is a 3.x with some features removed but still ARM based vs Atmega based.

    I'm sleepy as hell so bear with me and my shoddy memory. I seem to recall that the 3.x Teensy's were a no-go for a controller or anything keyboard related. Am I mistaken?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derezzed on Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:19:10
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:18:12
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:26:38
    Show Image
    (http://www.diatec.co.jp/image_prod/FKBN91MLJB2_01.jpg)


    What are the sizes of the bottom row keycaps in this JIS filco?

    Based on that picture, it looks to be: 1.25 - 1 - 1.25 - 1 - 4.5 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1 - 1.25

    The space bar looks like 4u, to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:20:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:01:39
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:56:38
    CBA, essentially the Teensy LC is a 3.x with some features removed but still ARM based vs Atmega based.

    I'm sleepy as hell so bear with me and my shoddy memory. I seem to recall that the 3.x Teensy's were a no-go for a controller or anything keyboard related. Am I mistaken?

    It has been done but not near as common, and I don't think any of them have been popular mostly due to cost of the boards, and no generic knock offs out that I have seen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nightdriver on Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:59:54
    really dumb question, but i just got my PMK relegendable keycaps and... i can't figure out how i'm supposed to get the polycarbonate cover back off the keycap.  any suggestions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 28 March 2015, 01:37:10
    Quote from: derezzed on Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:19:10
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:18:12
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:26:38
    Show Image
    (http://www.diatec.co.jp/image_prod/FKBN91MLJB2_01.jpg)


    What are the sizes of the bottom row keycaps in this JIS filco?

    Based on that picture, it looks to be: 1.25 - 1 - 1.25 - 1 - 4.5 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1 - 1.25

    The space bar looks like 4u, to me.

    Thanks!  I believe it is 4.5u, because the total unit should be 15
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derezzed on Sat, 28 March 2015, 01:58:54
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 28 March 2015, 01:37:10
    Quote from: derezzed on Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:19:10
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:18:12
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:26:38
    Show Image
    (http://www.diatec.co.jp/image_prod/FKBN91MLJB2_01.jpg)


    What are the sizes of the bottom row keycaps in this JIS filco?

    Based on that picture, it looks to be: 1.25 - 1 - 1.25 - 1 - 4.5 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1 - 1.25

    The space bar looks like 4u, to me.

    Thanks!  I believe it is 4.5u, because the total unit should be 15

    My bad.  I misjudged something incorrectly when measuring the row above it.  I should have just checked the number row to get the total number of units.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 28 March 2015, 10:32:33
    I have a question for anyone who has a bolt-modded Model M.

    I've been looking into it for a day or two, since I noticed my M has lost a bunch of rivets (12) but all the keys currently still work. I'm feeling like I should bolt-mod it. There's one thing someone said in passing that I would like to confirm. Does the bolt mod prevent the board from laying flat on the desk without the feet extended? I always use my keyboards flat, so that might somewhat ruin it for me.

    Also, approximately how much do the supplies and tools cost to do it? Is there much risk of damaging the board if I don't have any experience with drilling?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sat, 28 March 2015, 11:21:20
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 28 March 2015, 10:32:33
    I have a question for anyone who has a bolt-modded Model M.

    I've been looking into it for a day or two, since I noticed my M has lost a bunch of rivets (12) but all the keys currently still work. I'm feeling like I should bolt-mod it. There's one thing someone said in passing that I would like to confirm.

    Read this by jdcarpre: How I Learned to Love the IBM Model M Keyboard... Again! or Why Bolt Modding is a Valuable Service (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54745.0)


    == == == == ==

    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 28 March 2015, 10:32:33
    Does the bolt mod prevent the board from laying flat on the desk without the feet extended? I always use my keyboards flat, so that might somewhat ruin it for me.

    The bolts go on the internals so it won't affect the way the keyboard sits on a desk.

    == == == == ==

    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 28 March 2015, 10:32:33
    Also, approximately how much do the supplies and tools cost to do it?

    For my bolt mod (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68909.0), I followed dorkvader's guide (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62226.0) and the GH wiki (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Modifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod) (cached since it is down (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SgZHg1kywG4J:wiki.geekhack.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DModifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ph)).

    I used the following:
    - 5.5mm or 7/32" thin-walled nut driver to open the case
    - 4mm socket to remove the ground
    - a chisel to remove the other rivets
    - a Dremel
    - a dremel bit with a rounded tip
    - a 1/16" drill bit

    The wiki listed the following parts:
    - 87 x M2 Screw, 8mm Length, .4mm Pitch (McMaster Carr 92005A029 (http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=92005A029))
    - 87 x M2 Nut, .4mm Pitch (McMaster Carr 90592A004 (http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=90592A004))
    - 87 x M2 Washer (McMaster Carr 93475A196 (http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=93475A196))

    Locally, I purchased a stainless steel M2 8mm screw, nut, and washer set at PHP 6.00 (~US$ 0.14) per set.

    == == == == ==

    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 28 March 2015, 10:32:33
    Is there much risk of damaging the board if I don't have any experience with drilling?

    Well, drilling is done on the barrel plate with everything disassembled so...worst case, I think you could mess up drilling and damage the barrel plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:00:21
    Quote
    The bolts go on the internals so it won't affect the way the keyboard sits on a desk.

    Thanks for confirming this. I didn't think it made sense when I saw someone say that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:09:41
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:00:21
    Quote
    The bolts go on the internals so it won't affect the way the keyboard sits on a desk.

    Thanks for confirming this. I didn't think it made sense when I saw someone say that.
    Sometimes the bolts towards the bottom/front have been known to press against the case and warp it, if the mod was not done properly. This could be why some bolt modded boards wouldn't sit flat. But as long as everything fits during reassembly without jamming it, everything should be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:23:57
    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:09:41
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:00:21
    Quote
    The bolts go on the internals so it won't affect the way the keyboard sits on a desk.

    Thanks for confirming this. I didn't think it made sense when I saw someone say that.
    Sometimes the bolts towards the bottom/front have been known to press against the case and warp it, if the mod was not done properly. This could be why some bolt modded boards wouldn't sit flat. But as long as everything fits during reassembly without jamming it, everything should be fine.

    I remember I had to flip a few bolts (nut in front on the barrel plate and bolt from the rear) on the front so I could insert the assembly into the notches on the inside of the case.  I'll update this with a picture tomorrow to better explain this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:46:00
    I posted a couple of questions regarding ordering a Nerd60 PCB and NS Crystal Case (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43915.600) in GONs sub forum.

    Any help is very much appreciated!  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 March 2015, 13:10:19
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:46:00
    I posted a couple of questions regarding ordering a Nerd60 PCB and NS Crystal Case (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43915.600) in GONs sub forum.

    Any help is very much appreciated!  :)
    Please don't cross post like that in this thread. GON will get you sorted :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 28 March 2015, 14:03:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 March 2015, 13:10:19
    Please don't cross post like that in this thread. GON will get you sorted :).

    I'm sorry CPT...  :-[ Thx for telling me, won't do it again.
    (didn't know it's not ok in this thread and thought it might be appropriate since its the most popular place to post questions)

    Also thx, I'll try to reach GON!  :)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:04:09
    Does anyone use very thick GH lube anywhere on their tactile cherry mx switches?  Seems like everyone just uses thick.  I saw that ming on the mx lubing thread recommended very thick on the front of the stem, anyone do that?

    Also, is very thick maybe better than thick on stabilizers?

    I've been reading a lot on lubing methods but seems there is a lot of conflicting information, what do you think if this lubing strategy?:

    I'm lubing mx clears, i lube the top and bottom of the spring just barely with GH spring lube, just make it wet, the lube doesn't show after application.  I lube the sides of the stem pretty well, apply generously, with gh thick lube.  On the front of the stem i put some but a lot less.  I don't lube any of the lower housing since it's really just the same places as the stem.  (however ming says that the bottom channels and not the sides of stem are worth lubing, i see this as the one and same place, why are the channels prefered?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:29:24
    Where can I find a 4.5u spacebar in either Cherry or DCS profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:32:38
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:29:24
    Where can I find a 4.5u spacebar in either Cherry or DCS profile?
    If you call Signature Plastics you can ask about having one made. jdcarpe recently called them and learned that they can make any size in either DCS or DSA.

    Of course, just one will cost you an arm and a leg.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 28 March 2015, 18:51:00
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:00:54
    I'm trying to make a PS2 to USB converter for my Model M.  I was using a Teensy 2.0 with the TMK Firmware, but I may have accidentally destroyed the traces on the Teensy.

    Now I have one of the new Teensy LC things.  So I need something that works with the ARM architecture.  This will be my first time tangling with ARM instead of atMEGA.  I might be able to adapt something that has previously worked with the Teensy 3.x versions.  Any thoughts on what I should try?

    Check out my useful thread in Making Stuff Together! Super Awesome Tools and Resources Made By Users! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0)

    What you want is this: Kiibohd Controller Firmware (https://github.com/kiibohd/controller)



    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:32:38
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:29:24
    Where can I find a 4.5u spacebar in either Cherry or DCS profile?
    If you call Signature Plastics you can ask about having one made. jdcarpe recently called them and learned that they can make any size in either DCS or DSA.

    Of course, just one will cost you an arm and a leg.

    SP actually does have a mold for 4.5u spacebars in DCS family. But I'm not sure they will make you just one. I'm guessing that 25 of them would cost you around $4-ish each.

    http://solutionsinplastic.com/pdfs/DCSFamily.pdf
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:02:06
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 28 March 2015, 18:51:00
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Fri, 27 March 2015, 21:00:54
    I'm trying to make a PS2 to USB converter for my Model M.  I was using a Teensy 2.0 with the TMK Firmware, but I may have accidentally destroyed the traces on the Teensy.

    Now I have one of the new Teensy LC things.  So I need something that works with the ARM architecture.  This will be my first time tangling with ARM instead of atMEGA.  I might be able to adapt something that has previously worked with the Teensy 3.x versions.  Any thoughts on what I should try?

    Check out my useful thread in Making Stuff Together! Super Awesome Tools and Resources Made By Users! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0)

    What you want is this: Kiibohd Controller Firmware (https://github.com/kiibohd/controller)



    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:32:38
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:29:24
    Where can I find a 4.5u spacebar in either Cherry or DCS profile?
    If you call Signature Plastics you can ask about having one made. jdcarpe recently called them and learned that they can make any size in either DCS or DSA.

    Of course, just one will cost you an arm and a leg.

    SP actually does have a mold for 4.5u spacebars in DCS family. But I'm not sure they will make you just one. I'm guessing that 25 of them would cost you around $4-ish each.

    http://solutionsinplastic.com/pdfs/DCSFamily.pdf

    Llast time I talked to them, minimum order was $100 for anything that has to be manufactured regardless of volume.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:13:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:02:06
    Llast time I talked to them, minimum order was $100 for anything that has to be manufactured regardless of volume.

    I'm sure this is correct.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:29:16
    Has anyone done a variable weighting Cherry MX mod a'la Topre style?  And if not, doesn't that mean that this variable weighting idea is probably not good?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:33:16
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:29:16
    Has anyone done a variable weighting Cherry MX mod a'la Topre style?  And if not, doesn't that mean that this variable weighting idea is probably not good?
    I've seen a few permutations of variable cherry but none to the extent of variable topre.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:37:30
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:13:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:02:06
    Llast time I talked to them, minimum order was $100 for anything that has to be manufactured regardless of volume.

    I'm sure this is correct.
    :'( ouch, I guess I need to buy 25then
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 28 March 2015, 20:38:51
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:37:30
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:13:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:02:06
    Llast time I talked to them, minimum order was $100 for anything that has to be manufactured regardless of volume.

    I'm sure this is correct.
    :'( ouch, I guess I need to buy 25then

    What is this for? Unless it's for a completely one-off custom thing you can probably find at least one other buyer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 March 2015, 21:45:38
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:29:16
    Has anyone done a variable weighting Cherry MX mod a'la Topre style?  And if not, doesn't that mean that this variable weighting idea is probably not good?

    I've never seen this. I personally hate if a keyboard doesn't have uniform switches so I haven't bothered with it. Doesn't mean it's a bad idea. Some people claim it's good for ergonomics.

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 28 March 2015, 17:04:09
    Does anyone use very thick GH lube anywhere on their tactile cherry mx switches?  Seems like everyone just uses thick.  I saw that ming on the mx lubing thread recommended very thick on the front of the stem, anyone do that?

    Also, is very thick maybe better than thick on stabilizers?

    I've been reading a lot on lubing methods but seems there is a lot of conflicting information, what do you think if this lubing strategy?:

    I'm lubing mx clears, i lube the top and bottom of the spring just barely with GH spring lube, just make it wet, the lube doesn't show after application.  I lube the sides of the stem pretty well, apply generously, with gh thick lube.  On the front of the stem i put some but a lot less.  I don't lube any of the lower housing since it's really just the same places as the stem.  (however ming says that the bottom channels and not the sides of stem are worth lubing, i see this as the one and same place, why are the channels prefered?)

    Lubing strategy? Lube it one way, test it, see if you like it, then adjust accordingly.

    I lube all the friction points as shown in MMB's guide (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) as well as around the housing. So the faces where the legs are and opposite the face.

    I think you're over thinking lubing. Just apply it all round the stem and underneath if you like. I don't bother mixing different types of lube for different areas because I don't think it matters. Thick for clears, very thick for Topre, and I just mix until I'm happy with the viscosity for linears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 28 March 2015, 22:22:37
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 March 2015, 22:35:52
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 28 March 2015, 22:22:37
    why are the realforce topre keypads so expensive??? (even for topre)

    Niche product (keypad) for a niche demographic (Topre Users) for a niche market (mechanical keyboards)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:05:33
    is powder coating the only option to change the color of an anodized alu housing? i read that the process involves stripping the anodization off, curious as to how this is done.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:11:54
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:05:33
    is powder coating the only option to change the color of an anodized alu housing? i read that the process involves stripping the anodization off, curious as to how this is done.
    No, you can re-anodize metal housings, plastic can only be painted or plasti-dipped.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:16:04
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:05:33
    is powder coating the only option to change the color of an anodized alu housing? i read that the process involves stripping the anodization off, curious as to how this is done.

    Pretty much any anodize shop can strip anodize, because that's what they have to do if they mess something up the first time. But, just know that this will slightly change the size of the housing, since the anodize isn't an additive coating (like paint), but it actually chemically alters the outer layers of aluminum molecules. So removing that first anodize "shell" shrinks the part.

    EDIT: Just to be clear, anodize does add to the overall size but it also penetrates inward a bit (unlike paint).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:34:04
    Quote from: KnivesM on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:11:54
    No, you can re-anodize metal housings, plastic can only be painted or plasti-dipped.
    re-anodizing (i.e. adding a second layer of anodize on top) is not a good idea from what i've read. paint should work fine though, i forgot you can do that

    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:16:04

    Pretty much any anodize shop can strip anodize, because that's what they have to do if they mess something up the first time. But, just know that this will slightly change the size of the housing, since the anodize isn't an additive coating (like paint), but it actually chemically alters the outer layers of aluminum molecules. So removing that first anodize "shell" shrinks the part.

    EDIT: Just to be clear, anodize does add to the overall size but it also penetrates inward a bit (unlike paint).
    none of the links i read mentioned this part, thanks! what i'm trying to do is to recreate the two-tone Orion look on my Octagon: (blue and black in place of silver). would you also recommend paint for this purpose?
    (http://i.imgur.com/LBtqmJT.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:36:56
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:34:04
    Quote from: KnivesM on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:11:54
    No, you can re-anodize metal housings, plastic can only be painted or plasti-dipped.
    re-anodizing (i.e. adding a second layer of anodize on top) is not a good idea from what i've read. paint should work fine though, i forgot you can do that

    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 29 March 2015, 00:16:04

    Pretty much any anodize shop can strip anodize, because that's what they have to do if they mess something up the first time. But, just know that this will slightly change the size of the housing, since the anodize isn't an additive coating (like paint), but it actually chemically alters the outer layers of aluminum molecules. So removing that first anodize "shell" shrinks the part.

    EDIT: Just to be clear, anodize does add to the overall size but it also penetrates inward a bit (unlike paint).
    none of the links i read mentioned this part, thanks! what i'm trying to do is to recreate the two-tone Orion look on my Octagon: (blue and black in place of silver). would you also recommend paint for this purpose?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/LBtqmJT.png)


    Pretty sure you can just remove the anodization layer then anodize again with the dyes of your choice. IE get the top half anodized with grey dye and the bottom with blue dye. For better information than reading online, you could always call a local anodization shop and ask them for more details.

    Edit: Photoelectric re-anodized an LZ-GH (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49632.0) and I've never heard any complaints.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 29 March 2015, 01:21:13
    ^ that is one heck of a compelling read. as to your suggestion, i'd like to retain the blue gray color somehow, it seems very hard to reproduce. i'll see if it's possible to just strip the anodizing off half of the board, and if not i'll resort to paint. but yes i'll definitely get in touch with some anodizing shops for details
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Sun, 29 March 2015, 09:30:15
    Does anybody know what the effect would be if you put clear switch tops (eg from a Gateron) on a switch with front mounted LEDs?or can you not put LEDs through gaterons?

    I just realised I would have to unsolder all the LEDs...  :confused:

    I should probably learn how to solder and de-solder...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 29 March 2015, 09:39:42
    Quote from: infiniti on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:23:57
    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:09:41
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:00:21
    Quote
    The bolts go on the internals so it won't affect the way the keyboard sits on a desk.

    Thanks for confirming this. I didn't think it made sense when I saw someone say that.
    Sometimes the bolts towards the bottom/front have been known to press against the case and warp it, if the mod was not done properly. This could be why some bolt modded boards wouldn't sit flat. But as long as everything fits during reassembly without jamming it, everything should be fine.

    I remember I had to flip a few bolts (nut in front on the barrel plate and bolt from the rear) on the front so I could insert the assembly into the notches on the inside of the case.  I'll update this with a picture tomorrow to better explain this.

    The nut and bolt in red had to be reversed so that it is flush on the bottom side.  This allows the assembly to slide into the clips on the inside of the case (in green).

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sun, 29 March 2015, 09:47:59
    I appreciate the picture. Thanks.

    Also looks like that board was better cleaned than mine:
    More
    Sorry for potato.
    (http://i.imgur.com/dKD49Kr.jpg)

    I probably could have done a better job.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 29 March 2015, 10:01:25
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sun, 29 March 2015, 09:47:59
    I appreciate the picture. Thanks.

    Also looks like that board was better cleaned than mine:
    More
    Sorry for potato.
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/dKD49Kr.jpg)


    I probably could have done a better job.

    You're welcome!

    I must admit to some light brushing before that picture was taken. :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sun, 29 March 2015, 10:03:57
    I just opened mine two days ago to clean it for the first time since I got it. I was surprised how little filth was in it considering its age.

    It could have been a lot worse. (http://imgur.com/a/v8DkQ)

    I decided that I need to bolt-mod it because 12 rivet ends fell out during the process.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 March 2015, 10:35:45
    Quote from: katushkin on Sun, 29 March 2015, 09:30:15
    Does anybody know what the effect would be if you put clear switch tops (eg from a Gateron) on a switch with front mounted LEDs?or can you not put LEDs through gaterons?

    I just realised I would have to unsolder all the LEDs...  :confused:

    I should probably learn how to solder and de-solder...
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/29/e3f3dd84d5bf6b22e32c7e6d1820d0f2.jpg)

    You can definitely put LEDs in Gateron switches. I've not tried it but I'd imagine it would look like a more muted version of backlit Matias switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Sun, 29 March 2015, 11:18:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 March 2015, 10:35:45
    Quote from: katushkin on Sun, 29 March 2015, 09:30:15
    Does anybody know what the effect would be if you put clear switch tops (eg from a Gateron) on a switch with front mounted LEDs?or can you not put LEDs through gaterons?

    I just realised I would have to unsolder all the LEDs...  :confused:

    I should probably learn how to solder and de-solder...
    Show Image
    (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/29/e3f3dd84d5bf6b22e32c7e6d1820d0f2.jpg)


    You can definitely put LEDs in Gateron switches. I've not tried it but I'd imagine it would look like a more muted version of backlit Matias switches.

    Don't know what Matias backlit looks like :P

    I may or may not do it, don't know if it would be worth it on a Keycool, as much as I love them. Just would be interesting if anybody else has tried the gateron + LED combo. It might be really diffused what with the cloudy tops, although the LEDs are on the front and not inside like on the Corsair RGB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 March 2015, 12:16:22


    Quote from: katushkin on Sun, 29 March 2015, 11:18:18
    Don't know what Matias backlit looks like .

    I think it's a Duck Orion or V2 that had backlighting and an Alps plate. There's pictures floating around with them. I'm afk on my phone or I'd find and link you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 29 March 2015, 15:19:34
    I was wondering if anyone knew how many points are needed to browse the OTD marketplace.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Sun, 29 March 2015, 17:58:47
    mechkb.com is finally about to restock 55g RF 87u's. Before I decide to go for it in a few days I was just wondering; (mainly for my peace of mind) as someone who initially used MX blues, and never found them too heavy or fatiguing to type on, 55g Topre should be fine too, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 March 2015, 18:28:45
    Quote from: Bomble on Sun, 29 March 2015, 17:58:47
    mechkb.com is finally about to restock 55g RF 87u's. Before I decide to go for it in a few days I was just wondering; (mainly for my peace of mind) as someone who initially used MX blues, and never found them too heavy or fatiguing to type on, 55g Topre should be fine too, right?

    Not really an easy question and you won't get a nice clean answer. It's going to be more dependant on your tastes in switches. 55g Topre is probably a little heavier than MX Blues (I'm a Topre noob), so you'll have to decide for yourself if you like heavier switches or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Sun, 29 March 2015, 19:06:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 March 2015, 18:28:45
    Quote from: Bomble on Sun, 29 March 2015, 17:58:47
    mechkb.com is finally about to restock 55g RF 87u's. Before I decide to go for it in a few days I was just wondering; (mainly for my peace of mind) as someone who initially used MX blues, and never found them too heavy or fatiguing to type on, 55g Topre should be fine too, right?

    Not really an easy question and you won't get a nice clean answer. It's going to be more dependant on your tastes in switches. 55g Topre is probably a little heavier than MX Blues (I'm a Topre noob), so you'll have to decide for yourself if you like heavier switches or not.

    Fair enough, I think I'll pick one up based on the fact that I don't want a variable board, and that 45g uniform is hard to come by in Australia for a reasonable price. If I don't like it, I can resell it and get a 45g instead via classifieds or r/mechmarket.

    Thanks for the response though :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 March 2015, 06:47:29


    Quote from: Bomble on Sun, 29 March 2015, 19:06:56
    Fair enough, I think I'll pick one up based on the fact that I don't want a variable board, and that 45g uniform is hard to come by in Australia for a reasonable price. If I don't like it, I can resell it and get a 45g instead via classifieds or r/mechmarket.

    Thanks for the response though :)

    There's an Australian HHKB tour that I believe is still active. I suggest seeing if you can sign up to test it for yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Mon, 30 March 2015, 07:41:55
    The tour has ended. I was the last recipient, and I sent the board back to Jersern last Thursday.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 March 2015, 07:45:36
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 30 March 2015, 07:41:55
    The tour has ended. I was the last recipient, and I sent the board back to Jersern last Thursday.

    Bombie could always PM Jersern and see if he'd loan the board out again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Mon, 30 March 2015, 08:04:14
    I've got an HHKB, I was just curious whether I would manage with the 55g domes considering that I've tried MX blues which are weighted similarly. But in hindsight, I probably should have mentioned my HHKB when I first asked the question, oops.  :blank:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 30 March 2015, 08:32:47
    Quote from: Bomble on Mon, 30 March 2015, 08:04:14
    I've got an HHKB, I was just curious whether I would manage with the 55g domes considering that I've tried MX blues which are weighted similarly. But in hindsight, I probably should have mentioned my HHKB when I first asked the question, oops.  :blank:

    55g domes will feel heavier than MX blues. I don't find them fatiguing, but then again, I prefer an HHKB with 45g domes. I normally prefer blacks or clears in MX.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Mon, 30 March 2015, 09:34:36
    I feel like I have a tendency towards heavier switches, my first board had MX blues, and when I switched to browns I had issues with accidentally pressing keys which I did not intend to. This is no longer as much of an issue as it used to be, although it still happens from time to time. I feel like 55 gram Topre should be right up my alley, but now I just have to wait until it's delivered and see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Mon, 30 March 2015, 09:55:05
    I switched back to mine a couple of days ago after using my HHKB for a while, felt ridiculously stiff at first. Getting more used to it now, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:10:12
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:22:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:10:12
    What is the Cherry G81-3116SAU??  Not sure if it is rare or something it is $241 here: http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=1026674&C=304&S=2045 (http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=1026674&C=304&S=2045)
    AFAIK G81 means it uses MY switches instead of MX, so that thing is overpriced would be my guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 March 2015, 18:47:53
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:22:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:10:12
    What is the Cherry G81-3116SAU??  Not sure if it is rare or something it is $241 here: http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=1026674&C=304&S=2045 (http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=1026674&C=304&S=2045)
    AFAIK G81 means it uses MY switches instead of MX, so that thing is overpriced would be my guess.

    The S designates PBT dyesub caps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) which are highly-sought after. Perhaps the seller knows the market for these. Yes they are MY switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 30 March 2015, 19:40:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 March 2015, 18:47:53
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:22:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:10:12
    What is the Cherry G81-3116SAU??  Not sure if it is rare or something it is $241 here: http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=1026674&C=304&S=2045 (http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=1026674&C=304&S=2045)
    AFAIK G81 means it uses MY switches instead of MX, so that thing is overpriced would be my guess.

    The S designates PBT dyesub caps (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) which are highly-sought after. Perhaps the seller knows the market for these. Yes they are MY switches.
    I didn't realize the two shared keycap compatibility. TIL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 19:43:18
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 30 March 2015, 21:23:24
    my vintage knowledge is sorely lacking. what board do these caps originate from?

    (http://i.imgur.com/UI655nd.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 March 2015, 21:24:27
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 30 March 2015, 21:23:24
    my vintage knowledge is sorely lacking. what board do these caps originate from?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/UI655nd.png)


    Probably a Cherry dyesubbed PBT board. Such as the one in the question just above yours.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 30 March 2015, 21:38:47
    that would explain why the legends are slightly 'thicker' than on doubleshots. do you know why these sets mix both english and german? like the Enter in my photo, or the num lock in this one:

    (http://i.imgur.com/zvgAk6Q.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 March 2015, 21:44:30
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 30 March 2015, 21:38:47
    that would explain why the legends are slightly 'thicker' than on doubleshots. do you know why these sets mix both english and german? like the Enter in my photo, or the num lock in this one:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/zvgAk6Q.png)


    Probably used those caps because that Num Lock has that nice LED window. Same reasoning for the Enter key. "Enter" looks cleaner imo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 30 March 2015, 21:49:10
    mmm you're right, i didn't consider these could be mix-and-matches. thanks for the help :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 March 2015, 22:07:33
    I just wanted to take the time and say this because I'm not sure I say this enough. I always enjoy answering questions and researching stuff for the posts in here. I'm glad the community allows me to help out in this way. Really appreciate everyone thanking me. I just never want to clutter the thread with "you're welcome" or something along those lines. It's been a fun ride so far with this thread <3

    And special thanks to everyone who contributes both questions and answers besides myself. You guys make this thread run. I just happen to be a little obsessive about this thing lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 30 March 2015, 22:29:07
    Thank you Cpt for making this thread, and for constantly being available to answer all manner of questions.

    The OP is an invaluable reference, and I link to it often from new member posts.

    :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KnivesM on Tue, 31 March 2015, 02:15:02
    Will TEX TKL cases for Filcos work on Leopold's? I've heard a lot of people say Filcos are very similar to Leopolds so I've been curious about this for a while now. The measurements on Mechanicalkeyboards.com list both TEX and Vortex at 14.20" which would be 360mm (what my Leopold measures).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Tue, 31 March 2015, 02:24:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 March 2015, 22:07:33
    I just wanted to take the time and say this because I'm not sure I say this enough. I always enjoy answering questions and researching stuff for the posts in here. I'm glad the community allows me to help out in this way. Really appreciate everyone thanking me. I just never want to clutter the thread with "you're welcome" or something along those lines. It's been a fun ride so far with this thread <3

    And special thanks to everyone who contributes both questions and answers besides myself. You guys make this thread run. I just happen to be a little obsessive about this thing lol.


    Many thanks for all of your awesome work answering questions CPTBadAss!  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Tue, 31 March 2015, 02:27:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 March 2015, 22:07:33
    I just wanted to take the time and say this because I'm not sure I say this enough. I always enjoy answering questions and researching stuff for the posts in here. I'm glad the community allows me to help out in this way. Really appreciate everyone thanking me. I just never want to clutter the thread with "you're welcome" or something along those lines. It's been a fun ride so far with this thread <3

    And special thanks to everyone who contributes both questions and answers besides myself. You guys make this thread run. I just happen to be a little obsessive about this thing lol.

    You contributed a lot to this thread obviously  :thumb:. Thank you for keeping this happening.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 31 March 2015, 03:04:43
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 30 March 2015, 21:38:47
    that would explain why the legends are slightly 'thicker' than on doubleshots. do you know why these sets mix both english and german? like the Enter in my photo, or the num lock in this one:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/zvgAk6Q.png)


    Not sure where the windowed num lock from because iirc there are few boards have that, but the number keys with blue arrow are came from G80-2551 HAD.  The Cherry logo are came from G80-2100
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 31 March 2015, 07:25:44
    So I keep an eye on ebay's vintage computers section filtered by the "keyboard" keyword and last week something came up. $22 for an unidentified old-timey keyboard labelled as "clicky" by the seller, with free postage, Buy It Now. I'm sure it costs at least that just to post it to me.

    Anyway, it showed up today and sure enough, White alps. Now I'm wondering if you guys can identify it, because I think it's rebranded.

    On a related note, I'm wondering what kind of adapter I need to use this thing. My computer has a PS/2 port and USB ports. I'm guessing that this (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-XT-AT-to-USB-Soarers-Converter-Remapping-Macros-NKRO-Support-IBM-Model-F-/281476427201?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41894d6dc1) is what I need, but can someone confirm? Also, would that work for an IBM Model F PC AT or XT? Because I intend to get one of those when one becomes available at a good price.

    Pictures (http://imgur.com/a/HoXhi)

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 31 March 2015, 08:05:25
    Quote from: KnivesM on Tue, 31 March 2015, 02:15:02
    Will TEX TKL cases for Filcos work on Leopold's? I've heard a lot of people say Filcos are very similar to Leopolds so I've been curious about this for a while now. The measurements on Mechanicalkeyboards.com list both TEX and Vortex at 14.20" which would be 360mm (what my Leopold measures).

    I'm curious if KBParadise V80's will fit  in the TEX TKL cases.   I would consider putting a V80 MTS with matias switches in one if it's compatible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 31 March 2015, 08:17:24
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 31 March 2015, 07:25:44

    I'm guessing that is what I need, but can someone confirm? Also, would that work for an IBM Model F PC AT or XT? Because I intend to get one of those when one becomes available at a good price.


    Orihalcon's adapter should work, and it will definitely be good for the IBMs.

    Sometimes XT keyboards do not "play well with others" but yours is probably newer than that, and might well work with a simple straight-through passive adapter.

    If you are getting into old keyboards, you need a box of adapters for going back and forth between epochs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 31 March 2015, 08:21:57
    I found a switch on the side of mine. Three options: X, A and S. I'm guessing that's XT, AT and... Something.

    I don't intend to have a huge collection of old keyboards, but it certainly seems to be going that way. I have two Alps boards and I don't particularly like either of them. The ones I really want are the Model Fs. It's a shame because a while ago I saw someone selling his old IBM PC for $50 AUD on gumtree. I asked him if he'd sell the keyboard by itself (because he lived in the middle of nowhere and I didn't want to pay postage fees for the computer) but I neglected to mention that I was willing to pay the $50 he wanted for the whole lot + postage, and I let it go. It was a Model F XT.

    I'm regretting that now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 31 March 2015, 10:57:59
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 31 March 2015, 07:25:44
    So I keep an eye on ebay's vintage computers section filtered by the "keyboard" keyword and last week something came up. $22 for an unidentified old-timey keyboard labelled as "clicky" by the seller, with free postage, Buy It Now. I'm sure it costs at least that just to post it to me.

    Anyway, it showed up today and sure enough, White alps. Now I'm wondering if you guys can identify it, because I think it's rebranded.

    Pictures (http://imgur.com/a/HoXhi)

    I mean it could be a Datacomp XT or AT clone but honestly, it's just as plausible as being a Deltacom KB20167554.

    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 31 March 2015, 08:05:25
    Quote from: KnivesM on Tue, 31 March 2015, 02:15:02
    Will TEX TKL cases for Filcos work on Leopold's? I've heard a lot of people say Filcos are very similar to Leopolds so I've been curious about this for a while now. The measurements on Mechanicalkeyboards.com list both TEX and Vortex at 14.20" which would be 360mm (what my Leopold measures).

    I'm curious if KBParadise V80's will fit  in the TEX TKL cases.   I would consider putting a V80 MTS with matias switches in one if it's compatible.

    I think the mounting points are different between Filco and Leopold. I'd PM the guys (JoshMK and 00zerO) at MK.com and ask.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 01 April 2015, 01:05:49
    Switch placement for an ISO enter, anyone have dimensions?

    *JQ looks over at JD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 01 April 2015, 10:05:51
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 01 April 2015, 01:05:49
    Switch placement for an ISO enter, anyone have dimensions?

    *JQ looks over at JD

    Do you need exact dimensions like for a plate design Joey?

    I could definitely pop one of and check or take pics, but Im not sure about the exact placements of the cutouts.  :)
    Couldn't you make a layout with iso enter in the layout editor and put the raw data in the plate builder tool? I never tried something like this...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 01 April 2015, 10:08:10
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Wed, 01 April 2015, 10:05:51
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 01 April 2015, 01:05:49
    Switch placement for an ISO enter, anyone have dimensions?

    *JQ looks over at JD

    Do you need exact dimensions like for a plate design Joey?

    I could definitely pop one of and check or take pics, but Im not sure about the exact placements of the cutouts.  :)
    Couldn't you make a layout with iso enter in the layout editor and put the raw data in the plate builder tool? I never tried something like this...

    I think I took care of it for him. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 01 April 2015, 10:30:08
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 01 April 2015, 10:08:10
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Wed, 01 April 2015, 10:05:51
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 01 April 2015, 01:05:49
    Switch placement for an ISO enter, anyone have dimensions?

    *JQ looks over at JD

    Do you need exact dimensions like for a plate design Joey?

    I could definitely pop one of and check or take pics, but Im not sure about the exact placements of the cutouts.  :)
    Couldn't you make a layout with iso enter in the layout editor and put the raw data in the plate builder tool? I never tried something like this...

    I think I took care of it for him. :)

     :thumb: Thanks again, you'll be seeing the results soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: retainerbox on Fri, 03 April 2015, 17:52:35
    Why is a Tsangan set of keys called Tsangan?? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 03 April 2015, 18:18:51
    Quote from: retainerbox on Fri, 03 April 2015, 17:52:35
    Why is a Tsangan set of keys called Tsangan?? :)

    Named after Tsangan, a user who created that set to fit boards with 1.5x mods. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34903.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:12:09
    Q:
    Anybody know a PBT keycap set that is designed to work with a keyboard with leds under the switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:24:02
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:12:09
    Q:
    Anybody know a PBT keycap set that is designed to work with a keyboard with leds under the switch?

    Double shot PBT Caps for backlighting are kind of rare, due to difficulties caused by shrinkage issues with PBT afaik.

    Vortex does make doube shot backlit PBTs for example tho and they actually happen to be on massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-doubleshot-pbt-keycaps) atm...  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:53:50
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:24:02
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:12:09
    Q:
    Anybody know a PBT keycap set that is designed to work with a keyboard with leds under the switch?

    Double shot PBT Caps for backlighting are kind of rare, due to difficulties caused by shrinkage issues with PBT afaik.

    Vortex does make doube shot backlit PBTs for example tho and they actually happen to be on massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-doubleshot-pbt-keycaps) atm...  :)
    Big problem: They are designed with the led above the switch. Backlighting won't work with YOTH and those keycaps unless I install it upsidedown.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 02:10:42
    So, I was dumb enough to take off my Das Keyboard's spacebar while checking its state of cleanliness. Does anyone know how to put this thing back on? I haven't seen this type of stabiliser setup on my other boards.

    More
    (http://i.imgur.com/A41HU0I.jpg)
    Yes, that is cat hair.

    Edit: Ugh, figured it out. I do not like this keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:14:22
    Is in possible to program one key to be a sequence of characters? Like a password?  I will probably use TMK firmware.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:27:28
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sat, 04 April 2015, 09:36:09
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 02:10:42
    So, I was dumb enough to take off my Das Keyboard's spacebar while checking its state of cleanliness. Does anyone know how to put this thing back on? I haven't seen this type of stabiliser setup on my other boards.

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/A41HU0I.jpg)

    Yes, that is cat hair.

    Edit: Ugh, figured it out. I do not like this keyboard.

    This video should help you out:

    Note that the longer end of the stabilizer faces the back side of the key cap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 09:44:08
    Quote from: infiniti on Sat, 04 April 2015, 09:36:09
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 02:10:42
    So, I was dumb enough to take off my Das Keyboard's spacebar while checking its state of cleanliness. Does anyone know how to put this thing back on? I haven't seen this type of stabiliser setup on my other boards.

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/A41HU0I.jpg)

    Yes, that is cat hair.

    Edit: Ugh, figured it out. I do not like this keyboard.

    This video should help you out:

    Note that the longer end of the stabilizer faces the back side of the key cap.

    Thanks. I already got it, but it's good to have confirmation that I did it right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 04 April 2015, 10:21:05
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:27:28
    I just bought an IBM Model F AT which needs adhesive removal and cleaning of the case and switches.  Any specific products which work well?  I've read that denture tablets or detergent mixed with warm water works for the caps, and I've read that lighter fluid works for adhesive leftovers.  Anyone have any success with this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/TvWgAdT.jpg?1)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/9hjvaOr.jpg)


    My preferred methods for caps:
    1) mesh bag in the dishwasher
    2) denture tabs, use as directed

    Goo gone for the stuff on the bottom, follow with lighter fluid to finish residue removal. Or use wife/girlfriend's nail polish remover.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 10:32:10
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:27:28
    I just bought an IBM Model F AT which needs adhesive removal and cleaning of the case and switches.  Any specific products which work well?  I've read that denture tablets or detergent mixed with warm water works for the caps, and I've read that lighter fluid works for adhesive leftovers.  Anyone have any success with this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/TvWgAdT.jpg?1)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/9hjvaOr.jpg)


    Oh hey, I recognise that sticker on the back. I just bought one of the other boards from that guy a day or two ago. Should arrive within a couple of weeks. Pretty exciting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 10:44:39
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 10:50:22
    Oh, that's convenient. I'm getting it shipped to Australia. Cost about $35 USD, which honestly isn't too bad for something that heavy/bulky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 10:56:10
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 10:58:16
    Nice.

    Is the controller replacement a difficult thing to do? I haven't even looked into what's needed for one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 04 April 2015, 11:01:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 10:44:39
    Also, is lighter fluid / goo gone safe on the caps?  There were some stickers I removed from them.

    I use lighter fluid (naptha) often but remember to work quickly and then remove all traces of it immediately (I use an alcohol wipe-down followed by a wet sponge, at the minimum).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 11:01:47
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 April 2015, 11:41:04
    Quote from: Rose on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:14:22
    Is in possible to program one key to be a sequence of characters? Like a password?  I will probably use TMK firmware.

    Yes. Program a macro.

    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 02:10:42
    So, I was dumb enough to take off my Das Keyboard's spacebar while checking its state of cleanliness. Does anyone know how to put this thing back on? I haven't seen this type of stabiliser setup on my other boards.

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/A41HU0I.jpg)

    Yes, that is cat hair.

    Edit: Ugh, figured it out. I do not like this keyboard.

    Just for future reference, it's a Costar stabilizer.

    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 10:58:16
    Nice.

    Is the controller replacement a difficult thing to do? I haven't even looked into what's needed for one.

    The xwhatsit controller I installed on my Kishsaver wasn't too hard to do. Just a little nerve-wracking 'cause I didn't want to damage the board.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 08:27:28
    I just bought an IBM Model F AT which needs adhesive removal and cleaning of the case and switches.  Any specific products which work well?  I've read that denture tablets or detergent mixed with warm water works for the caps, and I've read that lighter fluid works for adhesive leftovers.  Anyone have any success with this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/TvWgAdT.jpg?1)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/9hjvaOr.jpg)


    I use GooGone to remove sticker adhesive from keyboards and video game cartridges. Should be fine on the caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 12:37:11
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 April 2015, 13:58:52
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 12:51:29
    How did you find your Kishaver exactly?  I know they're rare, but I'd love to get one eventually.
    Tinlong found a bunch and sold them in a GB. I proxied for NA. They were mainly used in banks but it's been hard to get banks to give them up to us. And not many pop up at ewaste recyclers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:37:00
    Does anyone know if it'd be safe for me to plug my GON into a power bank to test the led's? I don't have a PC and want to test the smd led's before soldering everything else and putting it together.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:40:16
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:37:00
    Does anyone know if it'd be safe for me to plug my GON into a power bank to test the led's? I don't have a PC and want to test the smd led's before soldering everything else and putting it together.

    Are you talking about a USB power source of some kind, like a hub?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:42:00
    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:40:16
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:37:00
    Does anyone know if it'd be safe for me to plug my GON into a power bank to test the led's? I don't have a PC and want to test the smd led's before soldering everything else and putting it together.

    Are you talking about a USB power source of some kind, like a hub?
    Like a portable battery charger, I also have regular wall charger I was thinking of using.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:55:53
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:42:00
    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:40:16
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:37:00
    Does anyone know if it'd be safe for me to plug my GON into a power bank to test the led's? I don't have a PC and want to test the smd led's before soldering everything else and putting it together.

    Are you talking about a USB power source of some kind, like a hub?
    Like a portable battery charger, I also have regular wall charger I was thinking of using.

    As long as it outputs standard 5V USB, I can't imagine it hurting it.

    I have my Poker plugged into a powered hu even when my computer isn't there so my Esc key stays lit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:58:06
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:55:53
    As long as it outputs standard 5V USB, I can't imagine it hurting it.

    I have my Poker plugged into a powered hu even when my computer isn't there so my Esc key stays lit.

    Thanks heed, that's what I imagined but I figured that I better ask people smarter than me XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 22:02:57
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 04 April 2015, 22:04:34

    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:58:06
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Sat, 04 April 2015, 21:55:53
    As long as it outputs standard 5V USB, I can't imagine it hurting it.

    I have my Poker plugged into a powered hu even when my computer isn't there so my Esc key stays lit.

    Thanks heed, that's what I imagined but I figured that I better ask people smarter than me XD

    No prob man good luck with your new job situation...and finishing your GON before you're...er...gone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 April 2015, 22:06:52
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 22:02:57
    Got the model F foam off in one piece:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/f8OXW9g.jpg?1)


    Anyone know how to remove this rust:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/OZxUV6E.jpg?1)


    May give a call to a local sandblaster/powdercoater, but I would like to know if there is any simpler way.

    Thank You!

    Evapo-Rust is awesome. CLR may work too, but I haven't tried it. I know other people might recommend other things.  I do know that I need to strip down my F AT and replace the foam and re-powder coat it though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 22:53:15
    Speaking of foam replacement, I'm guessing you need to get some foam of a similar thickness to the one found in the Model F, and cut those holes in it. How precise does that need to be?

    I have no idea yet if I'll need to replace the foam in the one I'll be getting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 April 2015, 22:58:24
    I know some people use leather punches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:14:46
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 22:53:15
    Speaking of foam replacement, I'm guessing you need to get some foam of a similar thickness to the one found in the Model F, and cut those holes in it. How precise does that need to be?

    I have no idea yet if I'll need to replace the foam in the one I'll be getting.

    Fohat.dig's uses a 5/8" hole punch (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48786.msg1048948#msg1048948) to cut the holes. Foam thickness is 1/16". Apparently this foam can be found at art supply stores.

    Apparently you only need to replace the foam if it's really bad. The_Beast reused his sheet (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47267.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:15:51
    Of course, if you already have it open, you might as well add some life and value by replacing it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:18:33
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:15:51
    Of course, if you already have it open, you might as well add some life and value by replacing it.

    I reused the foam in my 6019284. If it still works, why not just reuse it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:26:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:18:33
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:15:51
    Of course, if you already have it open, you might as well add some life and value by replacing it.

    I reused the foam in my 6019284. If it still works, why not just reuse it?

    That foam looks pretty good. I have re-used worse, as long as it stays in one piece.

    It doesn't do all that much really, except bed the barrel bases and keep them from rattling.

    Tape the new foam to the metal plate and spray paint through the holes to mark them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:29:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:18:33
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:15:51
    Of course, if you already have it open, you might as well add some life and value by replacing it.

    I reused the foam in my 6019284. If it still works, why not just reuse it?

    I'm just thinking long-term.  I think people put a higher value on refurbished items and it's minimal work and cost since it's already open.  Might as well just replace it, extend the life a little, and increase the resale value a little.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:31:50
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:44:01
    Always repaint or reseal exposed metal.  Personally, I would try and strip the paint and powder coat it, but you can save and paint it.  What paint you use depends on the quality you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:45:48
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:48:59
    Less than the cost of a Harbor Freight powder coater, the powder, and a toaster oven.  AKA, I have no idea since I haven't powder coated something yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:51:47
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 00:27:03
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

    Mine works fine for me

    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:31:50
    Are the barrels and such all the same?  They have little markings on them that are different, so I kept them in order.  If they are, cleaning will be much easier.  These guys:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Q2ItH1a.jpg?1)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/vNPyWT4.jpg?1)




    They're the same.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:34:51
    And does evaporust require repainting the plate afterwards?  If it does, what paint do you recommend?  Also, thanks heedpantsnow and cptbadass for the denture tab trick!  caps look new!!

    Yes. Look up some kishsaver restoration threads. People have covered a lot of how to remove the wear and paint/coat the plate again. Snoopy had a thread I can't find at the moment that was informative.


    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:45:48
    What's a rough estimate of a fair price for powdercoating?

    I had my 6019284 powered coated at Rainbow Paint. (http://rainbowrpb.com/) Prices I was given: $100 for 1 case. $80 for 2-3. $20 extra for clearcoat. Shipping not included.


    Do me a favor? Can you consolidate multiple questions into a single post by editing that post instead of making new posts? Hard to keep track of everything you're asking if it's in different places.
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    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 00:32:12
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 01:48:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 00:27:03
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

    Mine works fine for me

     Can you show me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 05 April 2015, 08:11:43
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:31:50
    Are the barrels and such all the same?  They have little markings on them that are different, so I kept them in order.

    Maybe it's the photo, but make sure that top left spring is not bent. Any spring damage or distortion will prevent good buckling.

    I clean barrels the same way I do caps, but if spring hammers are dirty, I use plain mild dishwashing soap without additives and rinse thoroughly to avoid residue that might promote rust.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 09:19:54
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 01:48:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 00:27:03
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

    Mine works fine for me

     Can you show me?
    Um, I mean I can take a picture of aquakeytest for you but I just plugged mine in and it had the basic firmware loaded. And my leeku is at work so you'd have to wait. I'm not sure how else I can help since I've never had any problems with it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:40:08
    Concerning PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers modding, I'm aware that you can :
    - clipped the stem
    - lube the sliders
    - lube the wire and the wire holder
    - add some fabric tape on the PCB

    But does anyone know what's going on with that video made by ducky0113 (https://youtu.be/20n-beoOgO8) ?


    I can't find any info describing by which process that cherry stab has been modded.

    Yeah I know, it's pretty much a shot in the dark... but thanks anyway !  :p

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:47:19
    Quote from: Lpwl on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:40:08
    Concerning PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers modding, I'm aware that you can :
    - clipped the stem
    - lube the sliders
    - lube the wire and the wire holder
    - add some fabric tape on the PCB

    But does anyone know what's going on with that video made by ducky0113 (https://youtu.be/20n-beoOgO8) ?


    I can't find any info describing by which process that cherry stab has been modded.

    Yeah I know, it's pretty much a shot in the dark... but thanks anyway !  :p

    You've asked this once before yeah? It doesn't look like there's anything too special with #1, which is the one that Duck modded. What exactly do you think is different because it looks relatively the same other than the fact that it seems to catch less. I'm guessing it's lubed on the wire, slider, and the inserts as well as clipped.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 05 April 2015, 16:03:01

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:47:19
    Quote from: Lpwl on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:40:08
    Concerning PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers modding, I'm aware that you can :
    - clipped the stem
    - lube the sliders
    - lube the wire and the wire holder
    - add some fabric tape on the PCB

    But does anyone know what's going on with that video made by ducky0113 (https://youtu.be/20n-beoOgO8) ?


    I can't find any info describing by which process that cherry stab has been modded.

    Yeah I know, it's pretty much a shot in the dark... but thanks anyway !  :p

    You've asked this once before yeah? It doesn't look like there's anything too special with #1, which is the one that Duck modded. What exactly do you think is different because it looks relatively the same other than the fact that it seems to catch less. I'm guessing it's lubed on the wire, slider, and the inserts as well as clipped.

    I'm far from an expert, but wouldn't clipping differentiate the first one from the other two?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Sun, 05 April 2015, 16:21:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:47:19
    Quote from: Lpwl on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:40:08
    [...]
    - clipped the stem
    - lube the sliders
    - lube the wire and the wire holder
    - add some fabric tape on the PCB
    [...]

    You've asked this once before yeah? It doesn't look like there's anything too special with #1, which is the one that Duck modded. What exactly do you think is different because it looks relatively the same other than the fact that it seems to catch less. I'm guessing it's lubed on the wire, slider, and the inserts as well as clipped.

    Nop, first time I'm asking something here.

    I confess I don't have much experience with cherry stabs  ;D

    I'm gathering as much info as possible before building my GON keyboard so I was simply wondering if there was something else that should be added to the "to-do" list above.

    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Sun, 05 April 2015, 16:03:01

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:47:19
    Quote from: Lpwl on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:40:08
    [...]

    You've asked this once before yeah? It doesn't look like there's anything too special with #1, which is the one that Duck modded. What exactly do you think is different because it looks relatively the same other than the fact that it seems to catch less. I'm guessing it's lubed on the wire, slider, and the inserts as well as clipped.

    I'm far from an expert, but wouldn't clipping differentiate the first one from the other two?

    I was (also) looking for "visual" confirmation of the effects of the mod and I guess you guys, pretty much, answered it.

    Thanks ! :thumb:


    To be honest, I don't even know if there is REALLY something to catch on the video (thus "a shot in the dark")  :-X

    ... don't hate me for this hahaha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 16:32:11
    Quote from: Lpwl on Sun, 05 April 2015, 16:21:03
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:47:19
    Quote from: Lpwl on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:40:08
    [...]
    - clipped the stem
    - lube the sliders
    - lube the wire and the wire holder
    - add some fabric tape on the PCB
    [...]

    You've asked this once before yeah? It doesn't look like there's anything too special with #1, which is the one that Duck modded. What exactly do you think is different because it looks relatively the same other than the fact that it seems to catch less. I'm guessing it's lubed on the wire, slider, and the inserts as well as clipped.

    Nop, first time I'm asking something here.

    I confess I don't have much experience with cherry stabs  ;D

    I'm gathering as much info as possible before building my GON keyboard so I was simply wondering if there was something else that should be added to the "to-do" list above.

    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Sun, 05 April 2015, 16:03:01

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:47:19
    Quote from: Lpwl on Sun, 05 April 2015, 15:40:08
    [...]

    You've asked this once before yeah? It doesn't look like there's anything too special with #1, which is the one that Duck modded. What exactly do you think is different because it looks relatively the same other than the fact that it seems to catch less. I'm guessing it's lubed on the wire, slider, and the inserts as well as clipped.

    I'm far from an expert, but wouldn't clipping differentiate the first one from the other two?

    I was (also) looking for "visual" confirmation of the effects of the mod and I guess you guys, pretty much, answered it.

    Thanks ! :thumb:


    To be honest, I don't even know if there is REALLY something to catch on the video (thus "a shot in the dark")  :-X

    ... don't hate me for this hahaha

    It seems like #2 and #3 have different lubing techniques. It might also be that #1 has been clipped and the other two aren't. But it's hard to tell without actually touching that board. I've clipped my stabilizers before but I never took the time to play with it to see the differences.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 19:46:03
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 19:48:39
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 19:46:03
    Does Unicomp or anyone else for that matter sell the barrels or the black plastic stabilizer clips from the steel plate for IBM Model F?

    Honestly I'm not sure. Fohat.digs or some of the other big IBMheads might sell you stuff. But if I were you, I'd just shoot Unicomp an email to ask.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 19:53:38
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:16:06
    So, I'm curious about something. White and blue Alps are both tactile and clicky, right? What is the difference between them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:16:56
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:16:06
    So, I'm curious about something. White and blue Alps are both tactile and clicky, right? What is the difference between them?

    In my opinion White Alps are heavier in terms of actuation force and aren't as smooth.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:17:41
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:20:05
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:17:41
    Aren't blue much harder to aquire?

    Yes, they're harder to find and you'll pay more for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:21:23
    From what I've seen, yeah, they're harder to acquire. I found a board with Whites that I got on ebay for $22 shipped. I'm almost certain that it cost almost that much just to ship it to me, so the seller got nothing for it. I guess they just wanted to get rid of it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:36:41
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:21:23
    From what I've seen, yeah, they're harder to acquire. I found a board with Whites that I got on ebay for $22 shipped. I'm almost certain that it cost almost that much just to ship it to me, so the seller got nothing for it. I guess they just wanted to get rid of it.
    Did you pick up one of those Uniteks? I've got one too. I think the rickety board and cheap keycaps don't do the Alps switches justice. I'll be looking for some other project to use those switches on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:41:49
    I don't know what it is, but I think you're thinking of something else, because I got mine off ebay.com.au from someone in Hobart.

    http://imgur.com/a/HoXhi
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:47:45
    What is the difference between clicky Alps whites and clicky alps blues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:51:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:47:45
    What is the difference between clicky Alps whites and clicky alps blues?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:16:56
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:16:06
    So, I'm curious about something. White and blue Alps are both tactile and clicky, right? What is the difference between them?

    In my opinion White Alps are heavier in terms of actuation force and aren't as smooth.

    Aren't these the same question?
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    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:59:58
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:52:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:51:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:47:45
    What is the difference between clicky Alps whites and clicky alps blues?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:16:56
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:16:06
    So, I'm curious about something. White and blue Alps are both tactile and clicky, right? What is the difference between them?

    In my opinion White Alps are heavier in terms of actuation force and aren't as smooth.

    Aren't these the same question?

    LOL that's what I thought

    Sorry, didn't see the previous reply as it was on the previous page.
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    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:00:54
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    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:04:53
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:59:58
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    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:52:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:51:59
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 05 April 2015, 21:47:45
    What is the difference between clicky Alps whites and clicky alps blues?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:16:56
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sun, 05 April 2015, 20:16:06
    So, I'm curious about something. White and blue Alps are both tactile and clicky, right? What is the difference between them?

    In my opinion White Alps are heavier in terms of actuation force and aren't as smooth.

    Aren't these the same question?

    LOL that's what I thought


    Sorry, didn't see the previous reply as it was on the previous page.

    No problem. From now on, I'll try and use more tags instead of snipping out parts of replies :).
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    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:06:55
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:10:50
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:06:55
    For CPTBADASS, what mech is your avatar from?

    My avatar was artwork gifted to me from moonprismpwr and Glissant, two very kind users and friends I've met here on Geekhack. But please try and stay on topic :)
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    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:11:34
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 22:55:45
    It's no problem at all. Thanks for understanding. Sorry to stifle the chat :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trigun0x2 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 02:38:18
    Are the Korean Keyboards on TaoBao real?

    For example:

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-399661584.79.olaIpW&id=35593019970

    LZ-FE on Taobao and it seems to be a new set. Does anyone have experience with this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 03:49:06
    Hey guys, so yesterday I asked if I could test the smd led's on my nerd TKL with a power bank but when I tried none of the lights turned on so I think they're set off.
    So my question is, does anyone know what the key stroke is to turn them on? I'm pretty sure it can be done hardware wise and not only a computer right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:31:16
    So, just yesterday I floss-modded my Model M, and I intend to do the same to my Model F when I get it. Are the springs the same length? The way I cut the floss is to insert it into a spare spring I got from Unicomp and snip it off at the end of the spring, achieved fairly consistent results that way. If I can use the Unicomp spring to get appropriate floss pieces for my Model F, I could get them ready now for when the Model F arrives.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:34:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 09:19:54
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 01:48:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 00:27:03
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

    Mine works fine for me

     Can you show me?

    Um, I mean I can take a picture of aquakeytest for you but I just plugged mine in and it had the basic firmware loaded. And my leeku is at work so you'd have to wait. I'm not sure how else I can help since I've never had any problems with it.

    Yes. I see. But I fixed my issue. Anyway, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:37:55
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:31:16
    So, just yesterday I floss-modded my Model M, and I intend to do the same to my Model F when I get it. Are the springs the same length? The way I cut the floss is to insert it into a spare spring I got from Unicomp and snip it off at the end of the spring, achieved fairly consistent results that way. If I can use the Unicomp spring to get appropriate floss pieces for my Model F, I could get them ready now for when the Model F arrives.

    No they are not the same length.  I believe they are a different diameter as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:44:27
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 03:49:06
    Hey guys, so yesterday I asked if I could test the smd led's on my nerd TKL with a power bank but when I tried none of the lights turned on so I think they're set off.

    So my question is, does anyone know what the key stroke is to turn them on? I'm pretty sure it can be done hardware wise and not only a computer right?

    Try Pause and Escape. That's how my Leeku's PCB changes the LED lighting mods. Or maybe insert. Seems like a lot of customs utilize the mostly "useless" keys. But I'm not 100% sure.

    Quote from: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:34:56
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    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 09:19:54
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    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

    Mine works fine for me

     Can you show me?

    Um, I mean I can take a picture of aquakeytest for you but I just plugged mine in and it had the basic firmware loaded. And my leeku is at work so you'd have to wait. I'm not sure how else I can help since I've never had any problems with it.


    Yes. I see. But I fixed my issue. Anyway, thanks.

    Can you explain what your problem was?

    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:37:55
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:31:16
    So, just yesterday I floss-modded my Model M, and I intend to do the same to my Model F when I get it. Are the springs the same length? The way I cut the floss is to insert it into a spare spring I got from Unicomp and snip it off at the end of the spring, achieved fairly consistent results that way. If I can use the Unicomp spring to get appropriate floss pieces for my Model F, I could get them ready now for when the Model F arrives.

    No they are not the same length.  I believe they are a different diameter as well.

    Agreed, they're not the same dimensions.

    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 02:38:18
    Are the Korean Keyboards on TaoBao real?

    For example:

    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-399661584.79.olaIpW&id=35593019970

    LZ-FE on Taobao and it seems to be a new set. Does anyone have experience with this?

    I can't really tell but I wouldn't be surprised if Redline is selling boards on TaoBao.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:54:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:37:55
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:31:16
    So, just yesterday I floss-modded my Model M, and I intend to do the same to my Model F when I get it. Are the springs the same length? The way I cut the floss is to insert it into a spare spring I got from Unicomp and snip it off at the end of the spring, achieved fairly consistent results that way. If I can use the Unicomp spring to get appropriate floss pieces for my Model F, I could get them ready now for when the Model F arrives.

    No they are not the same length.  I believe they are a different diameter as well.

    Ah. Do you know if I'd need to use a different type of floss, then?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:57:04
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:54:26
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    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:37:55
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:31:16
    So, just yesterday I floss-modded my Model M, and I intend to do the same to my Model F when I get it. Are the springs the same length? The way I cut the floss is to insert it into a spare spring I got from Unicomp and snip it off at the end of the spring, achieved fairly consistent results that way. If I can use the Unicomp spring to get appropriate floss pieces for my Model F, I could get them ready now for when the Model F arrives.

    No they are not the same length.  I believe they are a different diameter as well.


    Ah. Do you know if I'd need to use a different type of floss, then?

    I don't see why you'd need different floss. Just stretch the floss slightly differently to match the springs. It's floss. It's not like it's a steel rod lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:59:18
    There's an idea. We should all put tiny steel rods inside the springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 06 April 2015, 08:10:47
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:54:26
    Ah. Do you know if I'd need to use a different type of floss, then?

    I have used the same floss for both with no problem. The size differences in the springs are minute and almost imperceptible, and people have swapped springs with no problem.

    I recommend not stretching or messing with the floss at all, use a very sharp pair of scissors, slip the original long floss into each spring individually, and snip it where it comes out. I think it is easiest to do this in situ.

    Any stretching, stroking, or bending of the floss is going to make it fuzz up and flare out, which makes it much harder to insert. I strongly recommend doing it in one quick simple straight motion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: combataran on Mon, 06 April 2015, 09:15:55
    How many dental tabs would I need for 204 caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 April 2015, 09:16:35
    Quote from: combataran on Mon, 06 April 2015, 09:15:55
    How many dental tabs would I need for 204 caps?

    2 or 3 should do it

    I always use 2 but also only do between 104-120 caps at a time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 09:25:26


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:44:27
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 03:49:06
    Hey guys, so yesterday I asked if I could test the smd led's on my nerd TKL with a power bank but when I tried none of the lights turned on so I think they're set off.

    So my question is, does anyone know what the key stroke is to turn them on? I'm pretty sure it can be done hardware wise and not only a computer right?

    Try Pause and Escape. That's how my Leeku's PCB changes the LED lighting mods. Or maybe insert. Seems like a lot of customs utilize the mostly "useless" keys. But I'm not 100% sure.

    Thanks for the answer, I tried escape and pause and I'm pretty sure I tried escape and insert (after re-reading your message I'm not sure XD) but they didn't work so I'm just gonna go to work early tomorrow and use the computer laptop lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Mon, 06 April 2015, 10:38:43
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 09:25:26


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:44:27
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 03:49:06
    Hey guys, so yesterday I asked if I could test the smd led's on my nerd TKL with a power bank but when I tried none of the lights turned on so I think they're set off.

    So my question is, does anyone know what the key stroke is to turn them on? I'm pretty sure it can be done hardware wise and not only a computer right?

    Try Pause and Escape. That's how my Leeku's PCB changes the LED lighting mods. Or maybe insert. Seems like a lot of customs utilize the mostly "useless" keys. But I'm not 100% sure.

    Thanks for the answer, I tried escape and pause and I'm pretty sure I tried escape and insert (after re-reading your message I'm not sure XD) but they didn't work so I'm just gonna go to work early tomorrow and use the computer laptop lol.

    My NerD TKL is not assembled yet but you should take a look at that video (~3:23) :


    Try FN1 key (*) + S

    (*) by default it's your right Windows key
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 17:08:22
    Quote from: Lpwl on Mon, 06 April 2015, 10:38:43
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 09:25:26


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:44:27
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 03:49:06
    Hey guys, so yesterday I asked if I could test the smd led's on my nerd TKL with a power bank but when I tried none of the lights turned on so I think they're set off.

    So my question is, does anyone know what the key stroke is to turn them on? I'm pretty sure it can be done hardware wise and not only a computer right?

    Try Pause and Escape. That's how my Leeku's PCB changes the LED lighting mods. Or maybe insert. Seems like a lot of customs utilize the mostly "useless" keys. But I'm not 100% sure.

    Thanks for the answer, I tried escape and pause and I'm pretty sure I tried escape and insert (after re-reading your message I'm not sure XD) but they didn't work so I'm just gonna go to work early tomorrow and use the computer laptop lol.

    My NerD TKL is not assembled yet but you should take a look at that video (~3:23) :


    Try FN1 key (*) + S

    (*) by default it's your right Windows key
    Thanks man, I'll try this out and report back later.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 06 April 2015, 17:38:39
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:54:26
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:37:55
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:31:16
    So, just yesterday I floss-modded my Model M, and I intend to do the same to my Model F when I get it. Are the springs the same length? The way I cut the floss is to insert it into a spare spring I got from Unicomp and snip it off at the end of the spring, achieved fairly consistent results that way. If I can use the Unicomp spring to get appropriate floss pieces for my Model F, I could get them ready now for when the Model F arrives.

    No they are not the same length.  I believe they are a different diameter as well.

    Ah. Do you know if I'd need to use a different type of floss, then?

    I personally use the interior strands from paracord.  It is much easier for me to source than the fuzzy type dental floss usually used for this.  I want to chime in as well and stress the *sharp* scissors.  If you don't have any that will cut it clean, buy some.  If you do need to buy some, check sewing sections at various department and fabric stores.  I get my paracord from Micheals.  The 550 lb version has 7 cores, so it really doesn't take much length off the bundle.  Plus, the paracord has numerous other uses including sleeving USB cables. 

    this is my video for my floss mod on my AT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:54:17
    I have acquired a Phantom style TKL plate (after a LOT of searching) and have Gaterons and springs in on the way. Should I put the plate in my Filco or is there a "better" option around/on the horizon that I should save the TKL plate for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:55:32
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:54:17
    I have acquired a Phantom style TKL plate (after a LOT of searching) and have Gaterons and springs in on the way. Should I put the plate in my Filco or is there a "better" option around/on the horizon that I should save the TKL plate for?

    I mean TKL is a really popular layout so there's a very good chance something cool will come out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:58:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:55:32
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:54:17
    I have acquired a Phantom style TKL plate (after a LOT of searching) and have Gaterons and springs in on the way. Should I put the plate in my Filco or is there a "better" option around/on the horizon that I should save the TKL plate for?

    I mean TKL is a really popular layout so there's a very good chance something cool will come out.

    I'm not super familiar with custom boards. I'd love something like a KMAC. Do customs generally come with plates that allow switch top removal? If not do you think there is a good possibility that the phantom plate would fit into such a custom?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:01:57
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:58:16
    I'm not super familiar with custom boards. I'd love something like a KMAC.

    1) Do customs generally come with plates that allow switch top removal?
    2) If not do you think there is a good possibility that the phantom plate would fit into such a custom?

    1) Many Korean customs don't allow for switch top removal because they feel that it feels more solid to keep the switch holes square.
    2) Um...I don't know. I know that the Phantom PCB was specifically designed to fit in a Filco case. I believe my TKL plate will fit in a Leopold but I don't know about customs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:02:22
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:58:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:55:32
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 06 April 2015, 19:54:17
    I have acquired a Phantom style TKL plate (after a LOT of searching) and have Gaterons and springs in on the way. Should I put the plate in my Filco or is there a "better" option around/on the horizon that I should save the TKL plate for?

    I mean TKL is a really popular layout so there's a very good chance something cool will come out.

    I'm not super familiar with custom boards. I'd love something like a KMAC. Do customs generally come with plates that allow switch top removal? If not do you think there is a good possibility that the phantom plate would fit into such a custom?
    So there are two TKL customs coming up for GB soon, the Orion V2 and the Hubble Mira. Both come with a plate. I think that's pretty normal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:52:56
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:34:56
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 09:19:54
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 01:48:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 00:27:03
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

    Mine works fine for me

     Can you show me?

    Um, I mean I can take a picture of aquakeytest for you but I just plugged mine in and it had the basic firmware loaded. And my leeku is at work so you'd have to wait. I'm not sure how else I can help since I've never had any problems with it.
    I am very stupid, my bad. I forgot restart my computer after I connected PS2. Lol  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:55:17
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:52:56
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:34:56
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 09:19:54
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 01:48:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 00:27:03
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

    Mine works fine for me

     Can you show me?

    Um, I mean I can take a picture of aquakeytest for you but I just plugged mine in and it had the basic firmware loaded. And my leeku is at work so you'd have to wait. I'm not sure how else I can help since I've never had any problems with it.
    I am very stupid, my bad. I forgot restart my computer after I connected PS2. Lol  :p

    But I love easy fixes! No need to feel stupid! Glad it's working :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:58:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:55:17
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 20:52:56
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:34:56
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 09:19:54
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 01:48:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 00:27:03
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

    Mine works fine for me

     Can you show me?

    Um, I mean I can take a picture of aquakeytest for you but I just plugged mine in and it had the basic firmware loaded. And my leeku is at work so you'd have to wait. I'm not sure how else I can help since I've never had any problems with it.
    I am very stupid, my bad. I forgot restart my computer after I connected PS2. Lol  :p

    But I love easy fixes! No need to feel stupid! Glad it's working :)

    Yes. I am very happy because it is working. Anyway, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 01:05:39
    Has anyone done a group buy with Unicomp for a set of custom legends caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:05:00
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 17:08:22
    Quote from: Lpwl on Mon, 06 April 2015, 10:38:43
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 09:25:26


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 April 2015, 07:44:27
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 03:49:06
    Hey guys, so yesterday I asked if I could test the smd led's on my nerd TKL with a power bank but when I tried none of the lights turned on so I think they're set off.

    So my question is, does anyone know what the key stroke is to turn them on? I'm pretty sure it can be done hardware wise and not only a computer right?

    Try Pause and Escape. That's how my Leeku's PCB changes the LED lighting mods. Or maybe insert. Seems like a lot of customs utilize the mostly "useless" keys. But I'm not 100% sure.

    Thanks for the answer, I tried escape and pause and I'm pretty sure I tried escape and insert (after re-reading your message I'm not sure XD) but they didn't work so I'm just gonna go to work early tomorrow and use the computer laptop lol.

    My NerD TKL is not assembled yet but you should take a look at that video (~3:23) :


    Try FN1 key (*) + S

    (*) by default it's your right Windows key
    Thanks man, I'll try this out and report back later.
    Reporting back, success!!!

    I also found after watching another video that fn1 + F is for the top LED's probably for, "Front LED's" since S is for side led's

    I actually also brought it to work and put the led's to breathing mode while screwing up the other modes but it's fine since I'm pretty sure I could watch this thing all night.....

    Thanks LPWL, I'm done mine now so you can start your XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:49:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 01:05:39
    Has anyone done a group buy with Unicomp for a set of custom legends caps?
    I know mkawa worked with them to make the Red Alert and Olivetti colorways available as well as the Geekhack side legend caps. And I thought someone did media keys with them like play and pause.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 07 April 2015, 06:59:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:49:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 01:05:39
    Has anyone done a group buy with Unicomp for a set of custom legends caps?
    I know mkawa worked with them to make the Red Alert and Olivetti colorways available as well as the Geekhack side legend caps. And I thought someone did media keys with them like play and pause.
    They're single piece caps, not two pieces right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 07:35:49
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 07 April 2015, 06:59:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:49:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 01:05:39
    Has anyone done a group buy with Unicomp for a set of custom legends caps?
    I know mkawa worked with them to make the Red Alert and Olivetti colorways available as well as the Geekhack side legend caps. And I thought someone did media keys with them like play and pause.
    They're single piece caps, not two pieces right?

    The Geekhack caps I have are two piece caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 07:36:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:49:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 01:05:39
    Has anyone done a group buy with Unicomp for a set of custom legends caps?
    I know mkawa worked with them to make the Red Alert and Olivetti colorways available as well as the Geekhack side legend caps. And I thought someone did media keys with them like play and pause.

    Thanks CBA, I was debating on seeing if they would be willing to do something like this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70699.0;topicseen) on a set of caps.  Plus it looks like they are getting the ability to do single piece keys.

    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 07 April 2015, 06:59:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:49:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 01:05:39
    Has anyone done a group buy with Unicomp for a set of custom legends caps?
    I know mkawa worked with them to make the Red Alert and Olivetti colorways available as well as the Geekhack side legend caps. And I thought someone did media keys with them like play and pause.
    They're single piece caps, not two pieces right?

    As far as I know all Unicomp keys are two piece aside from stabilized keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 07 April 2015, 07:55:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 07:36:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:49:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 01:05:39
    Has anyone done a group buy with Unicomp for a set of custom legends caps?
    I know mkawa worked with them to make the Red Alert and Olivetti colorways available as well as the Geekhack side legend caps. And I thought someone did media keys with them like play and pause.

    Thanks CBA, I was debating on seeing if they would be willing to do something like this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70699.0;topicseen) on a set of caps.  Plus it looks like they are getting the ability to do single piece keys.

    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 07 April 2015, 06:59:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:49:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 01:05:39
    Has anyone done a group buy with Unicomp for a set of custom legends caps?
    I know mkawa worked with them to make the Red Alert and Olivetti colorways available as well as the Geekhack side legend caps. And I thought someone did media keys with them like play and pause.
    They're single piece caps, not two pieces right?

    As far as I know all Unicomp keys are two piece aside from stabilized keys.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 07:35:49
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 07 April 2015, 06:59:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:49:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 01:05:39
    Has anyone done a group buy with Unicomp for a set of custom legends caps?
    I know mkawa worked with them to make the Red Alert and Olivetti colorways available as well as the Geekhack side legend caps. And I thought someone did media keys with them like play and pause.
    They're single piece caps, not two pieces right?

    The Geekhack caps I have are two piece caps.

    Wow I didn't realize this. That's pretty cool to hear. So then I am most likely going to order a custom replacement set for my SSK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 13:56:48
    When dealing with PS/2 hookups, is it normal for a keyboard not to work in a combined mouse/keyboard hookup compared to a separate mouse and keyboard hookups?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 April 2015, 14:00:03
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 13:56:48
    When dealing with PS/2 hookups, is it normal for a keyboard not to work in a combined mouse/keyboard hookup compared to a separate mouse and keyboard hookups?

    Not sure exactly what your asking but do remember typically you always have to restart for PS/2 to be recognized as it isn't plug and play like USB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 14:22:26
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 13:56:48
    When dealing with PS/2 hookups, is it normal for a keyboard not to work in a combined mouse/keyboard hookup compared to a separate mouse and keyboard hookups?

    Are you referring to having both a PS/2 mouse and keyboard plugged into the same port on the PC, or their respective ports individually.  Also, do not hot plug PS/2 devices, there is a risk of frying the device, lesser risk these days then years ago, but still possible. 

    And like spamray mentioned, PS/2 is not plug and play.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 07 April 2015, 17:46:34
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 April 2015, 14:00:03
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 13:56:48
    When dealing with PS/2 hookups, is it normal for a keyboard not to work in a combined mouse/keyboard hookup compared to a separate mouse and keyboard hookups?

    Not sure exactly what your asking but do remember typically you always have to restart for PS/2 to be recognized as it isn't plug and play like USB.

    I've never had to reboot while using a USB adapter. I hotplug all the time. I'm not arguing but just curious if you can actually confirm this remains an issue with some PS/2 over USB adapters.



    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 14:22:26
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 13:56:48
    When dealing with PS/2 hookups, is it normal for a keyboard not to work in a combined mouse/keyboard hookup compared to a separate mouse and keyboard hookups?

    Are you referring to having both a PS/2 mouse and keyboard plugged into the same port on the PC, or their respective ports individually.  Also, do not hot plug PS/2 devices, there is a risk of frying the device, lesser risk these days then years ago, but still possible. 

    And like spamray mentioned, PS/2 is not plug and play.

    I have never heard of any kind of risk like that when using a USB adapter, I would assume since USB ports tend to be pretty well-regulated power sources. FWIW, as I mentioned above, I regularly hotplug my Model M's and other PS/2 boards into my USB adapter without any trouble. Should I stop this habit ASAP?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 18:26:36
    If you are using a USB adapter then you are ok.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 April 2015, 18:43:18
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 13:56:48
    When dealing with PS/2 hookups, is it normal for a keyboard not to work in a combined mouse/keyboard hookup compared to a separate mouse and keyboard hookups?

    I never had any issues with either one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Tue, 07 April 2015, 20:20:56
    How is the shift combined characters (e.g. !@#$%, from shift with number keys) sent? Does the keyboard determined what character it is and send the character? Or does the keyboard only sends shift and the original key, and the OS determines what character that is?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 20:30:32
    Quote from: ctm on Tue, 07 April 2015, 20:20:56
    How is the shift combined characters (e.g. !@#$%, from shift with number keys) sent? Does the keyboard determined what character it is and send the character? Or does the keyboard only sends shift and the original key, and the OS determines what character that is?

    The keyboard sends shift and the scancode for the key pressed. Note that shift is sent as a modifier, rather than having a "shift scancode" sent to the computer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 07 April 2015, 21:27:08
    Quote from: user 18 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 20:30:32
    Quote from: ctm on Tue, 07 April 2015, 20:20:56
    How is the shift combined characters (e.g. !@#$%, from shift with number keys) sent? Does the keyboard determined what character it is and send the character? Or does the keyboard only sends shift and the original key, and the OS determines what character that is?

    The keyboard sends shift and the scan code for the key pressed. Note that shift is sent as a modifier, rather than having a "shift scancode" sent to the computer.

    I just want to add to this, I have an orbweaver, and a naga epic with the 12 buttons on the side of the mouse.  These show up as a keyboard to the computer, and there is a switch to allow either number row or number pad scan codes.  Modifiers will cross devices, IE if I have the naga buttons set as number row, hold shift on the orbweaver, and press 2, I get @ on the computer.  Same works from the regular keyboard to the orbweaver or naga.  Works with all modifiers and caps lock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Tue, 07 April 2015, 23:47:08
    Hi! question: when I have a mini keyboard without function key row, where F1 is accessed via Fn+"1", F2 via Fn+"2" ... etc., does that mean the combination of Alt + Fn + 4 succeeds in resolving to Alt-F4? Or is this a naive fallacy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zustiur on Tue, 07 April 2015, 23:58:10
    It should work. My ergodox handles alt f4 that way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 08 April 2015, 00:02:58
    Hi there Zustiur. Thanks, I hope so!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Wed, 08 April 2015, 00:32:08
    My V60 mini works the same way with Ctrl + Alt + Fn + Backspace
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JWK on Wed, 08 April 2015, 11:52:16
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:29:42
    There are people in this community working behind the scenes to bring Korean-quality offerings to GH, but it takes a little while to get those things started. Hopefully, once those projects start to become reality, we will see even more of them coming along.
    This has also been enabled by the availability of CAD tools that tightly integrate with the manufacturer.  I've been impressed with with speed, quality, and price of the prototype PCBs, plates, and cases posted on this board. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:48:41
    So, for once I see someone selling a bunch of keyboards and I was wondering if these were mechanical. I'm obviously certain that the Microsoft and Lenovo ones aren't, but how about the Wyse and Sun ones? http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5OVgxNjAw/z/tfEAAOSweW5VJQgl/$_20.JPG

    Unfortunately this is the best picture the seller has of those two.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:54:09
    Quote from: Ludovician on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:48:41
    So, for once I see someone selling a bunch of keyboards and I was wondering if these were mechanical. I'm obviously certain that the Microsoft and Lenovo ones aren't, but how about the Wyse and Sun ones? http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5OVgxNjAw/z/tfEAAOSweW5VJQgl/$_20.JPG

    Unfortunately this is the best picture the seller has of those two.

    I don't know about Sun. The WYSE one doesn't like the normal ones that have the MX Blacks in them. I'd go with no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:54:52
    Quote from: Ludovician on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:48:41
    So, for once I see someone selling a bunch of keyboards and I was wondering if these were mechanical. I'm obviously certain that the Microsoft and Lenovo ones aren't, but how about the Wyse and Sun ones? http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5OVgxNjAw/z/tfEAAOSweW5VJQgl/$_20.JPG

    Unfortunately this is the best picture the seller has of those two.

    Pretty sure those are all rubber dome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:01:55
    Well, it was worth checking out.

    Thanks, guys. On another note, I saw someone selling a 1988 Model M missing keycaps for $35 AUD. Unfortunately he's in another state so I'll have to see if he's willing to post it. Wish me luck.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Wed, 08 April 2015, 21:27:51
    First Question
    I realize that my matrix wiring may be cleaner if I rotate a couple switches so there pins are along a different edge.  These switches will go under 1 x 1.25 DSA PBT keycaps.  Will rotating the switch necessarily rotate the key?  i.e. Can a keycap be popped off, rotated 90 degrees, and put back on?  The switches are Cherry MX.

    Second Question
    Does everyone always wire their matrix so that the columns receive the signal and the rows transmit it back if a key is pressed?  Does it make a difference which is connected to receive and which is sending back to the controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 April 2015, 21:30:24
    Quote from: Rose on Wed, 08 April 2015, 21:27:51
    First Question
    I realize that my matrix wiring may be cleaner if I rotate a couple switches so there pins are along a different edge.  These switches will go under 1 x 1.25 DSA PBT keycaps.  Will rotating the switch necessarily rotate the key?  i.e. Can a keycap be popped off, rotated 90 degrees, and put back on?  The switches are Cherry MX.

    Second Question
    Does everyone always wire their matrix so that the columns receive the signal and the rows transmit it back if a key is pressed?  Does it make a difference which is connected to receive and which is sending back to the controller?

    1) Yes, you can rotate the switch and it will not affect how the keycap sits on the switch.
    2) I'm not sure but I would guess that it does matter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 08 April 2015, 22:38:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 April 2015, 21:30:24
    Quote from: Rose on Wed, 08 April 2015, 21:27:51
    First Question
    I realize that my matrix wiring may be cleaner if I rotate a couple switches so there pins are along a different edge.  These switches will go under 1 x 1.25 DSA PBT keycaps.  Will rotating the switch necessarily rotate the key?  i.e. Can a keycap be popped off, rotated 90 degrees, and put back on?  The switches are Cherry MX.

    Second Question
    Does everyone always wire their matrix so that the columns receive the signal and the rows transmit it back if a key is pressed?  Does it make a difference which is connected to receive and which is sending back to the controller?

    1) Yes, you can rotate the switch and it will not affect how the keycap sits on the switch.
    2) I'm not sure but I would guess that it does matter.

    It shouldn't matter, so long as you have your firmware set up to match your matrix. You're just closing a circuit, when the switch is down the circuit is closed regardless. You do need to have your diodes in the proper orientation, to match the direction of current flow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Thu, 09 April 2015, 04:19:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 April 2015, 21:30:24
    Quote from: Rose on Wed, 08 April 2015, 21:27:51
    First Question
    I realize that my matrix wiring may be cleaner if I rotate a couple switches so there pins are along a different edge.  These switches will go under 1 x 1.25 DSA PBT keycaps.  Will rotating the switch necessarily rotate the key?  i.e. Can a keycap be popped off, rotated 90 degrees, and put back on?  The switches are Cherry MX.

    Second Question
    Does everyone always wire their matrix so that the columns receive the signal and the rows transmit it back if a key is pressed?  Does it make a difference which is connected to receive and which is sending back to the controller?

    1) Yes, you can rotate the switch and it will not affect how the keycap sits on the switch.

    Right, but you should note some keycaps are very tight on 90 deg rotated switches. Komar's GH60 rev.A PCB had 90 deg switches but he removed those from later versions due to this problem.

    My cheap PokerX keycaps had no problem but precious genuine Dolch keycaps were very tight on rotated switches and I didn't want to use them on the PCB :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 09 April 2015, 05:39:09
    I'm trying to open a PCB-mount MX Switch and plastic is bending and breaking, does the LED prevent the switch from opening?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 April 2015, 06:28:24
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 09 April 2015, 05:39:09
    I'm trying to open a PCB-mount MX Switch and plastic is bending and breaking, does the LED prevent the switch from opening?

    Absolutely. You need to desolder the LEDs first. There should be nothing in the disassembly process of a keyboard that is so hard to take apart, things are breaking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 09 April 2015, 06:35:59
    Oh my god. For what reason did you do that, Cherry? And I bought this PCB-mount-keyboard in the hope to get an easy solution. :-(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 April 2015, 06:37:57
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 09 April 2015, 06:35:59
    Oh my god. For what reason did you do that, Cherry? And I bought this PCB-mount-keyboard in the hope to get an easy solution. :-(

    I'm sure Cherry didn't think of the enthusiasts when they made these. Probably didn't anticipate people modifying boards like we do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 09 April 2015, 06:47:56
    You are probably right, it's sad. Anyway, thank you, Captain Badass!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Thu, 09 April 2015, 08:46:45
    How is fn combination sent? From what I know the keyboard controller sees that fn and the other key are both pressed and then send the corresponding character to OS. But why some remap software able to make use of fn key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 10 April 2015, 00:18:10
    What program and tools do I need to draw a plate for pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 10 April 2015, 00:32:31
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 10 April 2015, 00:18:10
    What program and tools do I need to draw a plate for pcb?

    I use autocad but Swill's plate builder will work.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 April 2015, 06:22:27
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 10 April 2015, 00:32:31
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 10 April 2015, 00:18:10
    What program and tools do I need to draw a plate for pcb?

    I use autocad but Swill's plate builder will work.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0
    Autodesk Inventor, FreeCAD, ProEngineer, and SolidWorks are all options too. Inventor and FreeCAD are free. But swill's tool is probably easiest.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Fri, 10 April 2015, 17:46:11
    I am thinking about getting a Ducky YOTH Mini, is there another 60% available now with a nice case like that for under 170$? I was considering the normal mini but can not find the gray case version with browns in stock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 10 April 2015, 18:02:15
    Should all(or most) old terminal wyse keyboards have vintage blacks? I'm thinking about grabbing one for that purpose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 10 April 2015, 18:13:17
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 10 April 2015, 18:02:15
    Should all(or most) old terminal wyse keyboards have vintage blacks? I'm thinking about grabbing one for that purpose.
    I'm wondering the same thing about AEKII's and orange Alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:32:08
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 10 April 2015, 18:13:17
    I'm wondering the same thing about AEKII's and orange Alps.

    My experience has been that approximately the first half of the production run of AEKs (not AEK2s) 0 > 1/2M are orange and the 2nd half 1/2M > 1M are salmon (aka pink) Alps.

    Apparently, some or all of the earliest AEK2s (1989 copyright) are salmon, the bulk (1990 copyright) are dampened cream, and the last (1995 copyright) are dampened white.

    These are all fuzzy approximations, don't get mad at me if they are wrong.

    The M0116s that I have had were also orange, but you don't get a full set.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 10 April 2015, 21:34:38
    Is Unicomp the only company making buckling springs stems/caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 10 April 2015, 22:05:17
    Not sure if its a simple question but,
    I've just given the V60 a closer look again since its currently on MD and was looking at some pictures of the PCB (http://www.hardcoreware.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kbp-v60-mini-review-pcb.jpg).

    The PCB is US/ISO/JP so it support things like split left shift for iso (and split backspace for jp?).
    However it also support a split right shift, with the add-on key labeled as esc?

    I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried to mod or short wire to see what happens when you trigger the add-on keys of split right shift (labeled esc) or split backspace (labeled J14) on an us version.

    I guess due to firmware they might not do anything on the us, and its most likely not practical anyway since the v60 isn't programmable but I'm really curious and maybe someone has more knowledge about JP vs US layout...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: just1n on Fri, 10 April 2015, 22:26:08
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Mon, 06 April 2015, 04:34:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 09:19:54
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sun, 05 April 2015, 01:48:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 05 April 2015, 00:27:03
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:23:45
    Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

    Mine works fine for me

     Can you show me?

    Um, I mean I can take a picture of aquakeytest for you but I just plugged mine in and it had the basic firmware loaded. And my leeku is at work so you'd have to wait. I'm not sure how else I can help since I've never had any problems with it.

    Yes. I see. But I fixed my issue. Anyway, thanks.


    Sorry to be late. Too much work. Leeku pcb normal work for you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 10 April 2015, 23:46:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 April 2015, 06:22:27
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 10 April 2015, 00:32:31
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 10 April 2015, 00:18:10
    What program and tools do I need to draw a plate for pcb?

    I use autocad but Swill's plate builder will work.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0
    Autodesk Inventor, FreeCAD, ProEngineer, and SolidWorks are all options too. Inventor and FreeCAD are free. But swill's tool is probably easiest.

    Thanks!  I am trying to draw a plate for my 360c, so I need the little tab with holes.  Am I correct that swill's tool can only draw a plate without the tabs?
    I am not sure that thing call a "tab" or something else, but the part in the blue circle is what I mean
    (http://i.imgur.com/xfCXLqK.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Fri, 10 April 2015, 23:56:29
    When I open a switch, I can a swap slider and spring to turn a ...
    ... MX red into a MX black,
    ... MX blue into a MX green,
    ... MX brown into a MX clear,
    right? But I can't swap the interior to turn a MX red into a, say MX clear, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 11 April 2015, 00:02:29
    Quote from: Eszett on Fri, 10 April 2015, 23:56:29
    When I open a switch, I can a swap slider and spring to turn a ...
    ... MX red into a MX black,
    ... MX blue into a MX green,
    ... MX brown into a MX clear,
    right? But I can't swap the interior to turn a MX red into a, say MX clear, right?
    You can make any mx switch become any other MX switch by swapping the slider and spring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 11 April 2015, 00:03:40
    Quote from: Eszett on Fri, 10 April 2015, 23:56:29
    When I open a switch, I can a swap slider and spring to turn a ...
    ... MX red into a MX black,
    ... MX blue into a MX green,
    ... MX brown into a MX clear,
    right? But I can't swap the interior to turn a MX red into a, say MX clear, right?

    They all have the same switch bottom and top.  Their differences are only the spring and the slider, so you are able to turn MX brown into MX clear, MX red into MX clear if you switch both the slider and the spring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sat, 11 April 2015, 01:59:10
    Oh! That's great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: onseki on Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:47:06
    I have a Poker II that I am happy with, aside from one small thing. Two, maybe.

    Sometimes when I am using the board, seemingly completely randomly, it will switch over to the second programmed layer, with no lights popping up anywhere. Aside from manually hitting FN+whatever, I didn't think that there was any way to toggle the second layer. As far as I know, the second layer is just the arrow keys and the printed functions. It is not modifiable. What am I inadvertently pressing to end up this way? Not all of the functions are activating upon keypresses, just the arrow keys (wasd)

    The third layer is the programmable layer, and I have "okl;" mapped for the arrow keys for playing Danmaku. I use right shift+FN to toggle to this layer. Since these are the only programmed keys, I can still use the native volume control (FN+nm,). However, when I try to change the volume while pressing a shift+Z+FN+n/m, the left alt key lights up, and I can't make any keypresses at all. What the heck is going on? I admit that's probably a lot to make the keyboard handle, but I would like to at least know what I am doing wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:05:32
    So, pardon my ignorance, but could anyone explain the differences been the xwhatsit controller and a Soarer's Converter?

    So I've got a Model F AT coming in the mail soon, and I ordered one of the Soarer's Converters off Orihalcon on ebay. From what I understand, the SC is a Teensy with Soarer's firmware that is an intermediary device between your keyboard and PC, and the xwhatsit replaces the keyboard's original controller and provides all the same functionality. Is that right?

    Is there any major difference in functionality, or any reason to prefer one over the other? Is one more difficult to create or install than the other? I'm thinking I may eventually want to use Xwhatsit's controller for my Model F because having the SC separate from the keyboard itself would probably bother me after a while.

    Thanks.

    Edit: Completely unrelated question, does anyone know what is required to get an ADDS 1010 terminal keyboard to work with modern PCs, if it is even possible?
    Connector (http://i.imgur.com/nzYovEh.jpg)
    Gallery of pics (not mine) (http://imgur.com/a/vq9iQ)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:33:51
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:05:32
    the SC is a Teensy with Soarer's firmware that is an intermediary device between your keyboard and PC, and the xwhatsit replaces the keyboard's original controller and provides all the same functionality.

    Is there any major difference in functionality, or any reason to prefer one over the other?

    Soarer's is infinitely easier because replacing a controller requires a lot of ancillary work.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:55:31
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:05:32
    So, pardon my ignorance, but could anyone explain the differences been the xwhatsit controller and a Soarer's Converter?

    So I've got a Model F AT coming in the mail soon, and I ordered one of the Soarer's Converters off Orihalcon on ebay. From what I understand, the SC is a Teensy with Soarer's firmware that is an intermediary device between your keyboard and PC, and the xwhatsit replaces the keyboard's original controller and provides all the same functionality. Is that right?

    Is there any major difference in functionality, or any reason to prefer one over the other? Is one more difficult to create or install than the other? I'm thinking I may eventually want to use Xwhatsit's controller for my Model F because having the SC separate from the keyboard itself would probably bother me after a while.

    Thanks.

    Edit: Completely unrelated question, does anyone know what is required to get an ADDS 1010 terminal keyboard to work with modern PCs, if it is even possible?
    Connector (http://i.imgur.com/nzYovEh.jpg)
    Gallery of pics (not mine) (http://imgur.com/a/vq9iQ)

    SC will work out of the box and is much easier to physically install as it is 4 wires between the controller and the PC.  I put mine inside the case of my XT and just run the USB cable out of the case. 

    Xwhatsit is much more difficult to physically install as you have to desolder a pair of 15 connector ribbon cables.  The wires are stranded condutors in small holes and are a bit of a pain to desolder.  But it is MUCH easier to configure the xwhatsit with the utility.  I have an xwhatsit in my AT.  Currently in the process of doing a remote mount on mine though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:25:35
    Just about ready to start putting things together.  Trying to plan ahead while I wait for the acrylic sheets I ordered.  How does this matrix look?  It will require me rotating a few switch holes in the thumb cluster.  I was trying to make the wiring as simple and neat as possible.  Is anything obviously wrong here?  Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 11 April 2015, 20:55:06
    Edit: Sorry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 April 2015, 23:31:59
    Please don't bump questions. I'll try and answer some questions when I can find a computer to type at.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 12 April 2015, 00:56:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 10 April 2015, 21:34:38
    Is Unicomp the only company making buckling springs stems/caps?

    Clicky Keyboards sells some, but I don't think they make them: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/10191

    Same for Fentek: http://www.fentek-ind.com/keys.htm#.VSoI7GbHG_M
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Sun, 12 April 2015, 03:16:23
    I have a really petty question.
    Should I set up my plate for stepped offset caps lock or centered caps lock?
    Don't want that wide modular cutout or mod the stem for my backlit key either lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 08:50:02
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 12 April 2015, 00:56:07

    Clicky Keyboards sells some, but I don't think they make them


    Pretty sure that they harvest them from vintage boards, so they often match better than Unicomps.

    Remember when ordering that sub-legends on the numpad come as: light or dark gray, light or dark brown, or black. They will need to know what you prefer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ouro on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:03:35
    Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:54:04
    Quote from: Ouro on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:03:35
    Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?

    Elite Keyboards is a good start for the more common items.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 April 2015, 16:57:15
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 08:50:02
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 12 April 2015, 00:56:07

    Clicky Keyboards sells some, but I don't think they make them


    Pretty sure that they harvest them from vintage boards, so they often match better than Unicomps.

    Remember when ordering that sub-legends on the numpad come as: light or dark gray, light or dark brown, or black. They will need to know what you prefer.

    Thanks guys.  But I was wondering as a possible source for buckling springs caps with custom legends.  Mostly multi unit stabilized keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 17:27:23
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:36:14
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 17:27:23
    -

    What is the thing in the first picture called?  I remember I loved to play with it in middle school :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:40:04
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:36:14
    What is the thing in the first picture called?

    An "engraver" or "hand-held engraving tool"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:46:11
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:54:04
    Quote from: Ouro on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:03:35
    Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?

    Elite Keyboards is a good start for the more common items.

    EK doesn't carry any of those things except lube, and their lube is for stabs, not switches.

    Try MechanicalKeyboards.com for the switches and lube, TechKeys for the stickers. Not sure who has stabilizers in stock right now, but there was just a big GB so you can try posting in that GB thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:50:49
    Quote from: intelli78 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:46:11
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:54:04
    Quote from: Ouro on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:03:35
    Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?

    Elite Keyboards is a good start for the more common items.

    EK doesn't carry any of those things except lube, and their lube is for stabs, not switches.

    Try MechanicalKeyboards.com for the switches and lube, TechKeys for the stickers. Not sure who has stabilizers in stock right now, but there was just a big GB so you can try posting in that GB thread.
    Can confirm. Tried to put MechLube 2 on my Clears (they say it should work for switches), but it's too thick in my opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:14:19
    Do stickers really make a difference?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:17:00
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:14:19
    Do stickers really make a difference?
    people mostly do it for aesthetics which seems pretty silly considering the amount of time you see them. Then again, I think most of the time people just stick em on when they're opening switches already like for spring swaps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:19:49
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:14:19
    Do stickers really make a difference?
    I think it looks good on assembly pictures ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:24:05
    I thought the stickers went in between the switch casing top and bottom sections. When would you see that except when the switch is apart?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:28:36
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:24:05
    I thought the stickers went in between the switch casing top and bottom sections. When would you see that except when the switch is apart?


    You don't see the whole sticker, but part of it. See this picture: (Not mine)
    (http://i.imgur.com/wBMOVYO.jpg)


    Also with gateron clear switch tops becoming more popular, I think stickers will be more popular again. B7ad had a beautiful board built recently by margo with clear switch tops and stickers, and it looked amazing!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:32:35
    Quote from: byker on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:28:36
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:24:05
    I thought the stickers went in between the switch casing top and bottom sections. When would you see that except when the switch is apart?


    You don't see the whole sticker, but part of it. See this picture: (Not mine)
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wBMOVYO.jpg)



    Also with gateron clear switch tops becoming more popular, I think stickers will be more popular again. B7ad had a beautiful board built recently by margo with clear switch tops and stickers, and it looked amazing!
    and someone did a build with those neon green stickers that looked pretty awesome
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:34:38
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:24:05
    I thought the stickers went in between the switch casing top and bottom sections. When would you see that except when the switch is apart?
    You can see a little bit poking through:
    (http://40.media.tumblr.com/1ce6884c2f32bc83f61e6520444c8b06/tumblr_n63ehrkXQ91tch031o4_1280.jpg)
    (photo blatantly taken from b7ad's blog (http://www.mechblog.org))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:36:16
    B7ad has such beautiful boards! This is his recent one I was talking about:


    (http://40.media.tumblr.com/c9aa89b2ac40e49221b9cbc440aacfdd/tumblr_nkhl45qMIj1tch031o8_1280.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sun, 12 April 2015, 22:50:46
    So my Soarer's Converter arrived in the mail today. Trying it with some old board I had lying around, and all is fine except for one key. Doesn't seem to do anything, nothing registers in HID Listen. Is this likely to be something wrong with the switch itself, or something nonstandard about this keyboard?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trigun0x2 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 23:25:39
    Any of these mech boards?

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDQ1MA==/z/J1MAAOSwnDxUlKza/$_27.JPG)

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/J54AAOSwnDxUlKze/$_27.JPG)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Mon, 13 April 2015, 00:21:33
    The IBM isn't, and I'm pretty sure the Compaq one isn't.

    I don't recognise the others. Do you have closeup pics of the switches? I can't see the ones in those pics, very potato + my eyes are potatoes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 13 April 2015, 05:29:01
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 12 April 2015, 16:57:15
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 08:50:02
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 12 April 2015, 00:56:07

    Clicky Keyboards sells some, but I don't think they make them


    Pretty sure that they harvest them from vintage boards, so they often match better than Unicomps.

    Remember when ordering that sub-legends on the numpad come as: light or dark gray, light or dark brown, or black. They will need to know what you prefer.

    Thanks guys.  But I was wondering as a possible source for buckling springs caps with custom legends.  Mostly multi unit stabilized keys.

    Looks like Fentek might (scroll down to the bottom): http://www.fentek-ind.com/keys.htm#.VSuZ5ZSUdfY

    DecentKeyboards seem to do 1x, maybe others too? https://www.etsy.com/shop/DecentKeyboards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 13 April 2015, 07:32:31
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sun, 12 April 2015, 22:50:46
    Doesn't seem to do anything, nothing registers in HID Listen.

    If nothing registers in HID listen, it is almost sure to be a dead switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trigun0x2 on Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:01:21
    Quote from: Ludovician on Mon, 13 April 2015, 00:21:33
    The IBM isn't, and I'm pretty sure the Compaq one isn't.

    I don't recognise the others. Do you have closeup pics of the switches? I can't see the ones in those pics, very potato + my eyes are potatoes.

    Not my pictures sadly. That's as good as they get :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vegabook on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:16:46
    Where can I buy a 60%, backlit keyboard, where I can program how the backlights behave entirely myself? I want to create a piece of software that will talk back to the keyboard and illuminate certain keys in response to actions in the software.  Preferably RGB and preferably mechanical. Must be 60% as space is at a premium but 75% might work. The key point is I need the illumination level of each individual key to be programmable by me in my own software (from say, C, or Golang).
    Will any of the keyboards such as the Pok3r or the Ducky Mini be able to do this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:57:37
    AFAIK there are no programmable RGB 60% boards. I think corsairs software can do what you're talking about but the smallest board you can get from them is tkl.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 April 2015, 09:16:20
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 10 April 2015, 23:46:51
    Thanks!  I am trying to draw a plate for my 360c, so I need the little tab with holes.  Am I correct that swill's tool can only draw a plate without the tabs?
    I am not sure that thing call a "tab" or something else, but the part in the blue circle is what I mean
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/xfCXLqK.png)


    1) Use swill's tool and get it to spit out the 2D CAD file for you, not the drawing.
    2) Open the file in FreeCAD or your CAD program of choice
    3) Add in the tabs.

    Swill's tool only does the plate.

    Quote from: onseki on Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:47:06
    I have a Poker II that I am happy with, aside from one small thing. Two, maybe.

    Sometimes when I am using the board, seemingly completely randomly, it will switch over to the second programmed layer, with no lights popping up anywhere. Aside from manually hitting FN+whatever, I didn't think that there was any way to toggle the second layer. As far as I know, the second layer is just the arrow keys and the printed functions. It is not modifiable. What am I inadvertently pressing to end up this way? Not all of the functions are activating upon keypresses, just the arrow keys (wasd)

    The third layer is the programmable layer, and I have "okl;" mapped for the arrow keys for playing Danmaku. I use right shift+FN to toggle to this layer. Since these are the only programmed keys, I can still use the native volume control (FN+nm,). However, when I try to change the volume while pressing a shift+Z+FN+n/m, the left alt key lights up, and I can't make any keypresses at all. What the heck is going on? I admit that's probably a lot to make the keyboard handle, but I would like to at least know what I am doing wrong.

    I don't really know off the top of my head and it's not a very simple question. I suggest making a separate thread to get more visibility.

    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Sun, 12 April 2015, 03:16:23
    I have a really petty question.
    Should I set up my plate for stepped offset caps lock or centered caps lock?
    Don't want that wide modular cutout or mod the stem for my backlit key either lol

    Do you want a stepped or centered caps lock? Go from there.

    Quote from: Rose on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:25:35
    Just about ready to start putting things together.  Trying to plan ahead while I wait for the acrylic sheets I ordered.  How does this matrix look?  It will require me rotating a few switch holes in the thumb cluster.  I was trying to make the wiring as simple and neat as possible.  Is anything obviously wrong here?  Thanks.

    Really not a simple question. I suggest making a separate thread for more visibility. Thread is really for quick and easy questions. I don't consider matrix checks a simple question.

    Quote from: vegabook on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:16:46
    Where can I buy a 60%, backlit keyboard, where I can program how the backlights behave entirely myself? I want to create a piece of software that will talk back to the keyboard and illuminate certain keys in response to actions in the software.  Preferably RGB and preferably mechanical. Must be 60% as space is at a premium but 75% might work. The key point is I need the illumination level of each individual key to be programmable by me in my own software (from say, C, or Golang).
    Will any of the keyboards such as the Pok3r or the Ducky Mini be able to do this?

    Pretty sure this doesn't exist in a stock board. You're probably going to have build a custom.

    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:05:32
    1) Could anyone explain the differences been the xwhatsit controller and a Soarer's Converter?

    More
    So I've got a Model F AT coming in the mail soon, and I ordered one of the Soarer's Converters off Orihalcon on ebay. From what I understand, the SC is a Teensy with Soarer's firmware that is an intermediary device between your keyboard and PC, and the xwhatsit replaces the keyboard's original controller and provides all the same functionality. Is that right?

    Is there any major difference in functionality, or any reason to prefer one over the other? Is one more difficult to create or install than the other? I'm thinking I may eventually want to use Xwhatsit's controller for my Model F because having the SC separate from the keyboard itself would probably bother me after a while.

    2) Completely unrelated question, does anyone know what is required to get an ADDS 1010 terminal keyboard to work with modern PCs, if it is even possible?
    Connector (http://i.imgur.com/nzYovEh.jpg)
    Gallery of pics (not mine) (http://imgur.com/a/vq9iQ)

    1) In addition to what has already been said, Soarer seems to be a bit easier and is an external add-on. You could hide it inside the board but you can also make an inline converter like Fohat.digs has shown. xwhatsit's controller requires you replace the original controller with his. I was scared to damage my OG hardware in my 4074 62key when I was swapping in the xwhatsit.

    Soarer's converter allows you to use a variety of firmwares such as TMK or metalliqaz's EasyAVR. xwhatsit's converter only uses his software that he's created programming for.

    Quote from: Ludovician on Sun, 12 April 2015, 22:50:46
    So my Soarer's Converter arrived in the mail today. Trying it with some old board I had lying around, and all is fine except for one key. Doesn't seem to do anything, nothing registers in HID Listen. Is this likely to be something wrong with the switch itself, or something nonstandard about this keyboard?

    Thanks.

    Seems like the switch might be dead or that switch doesn't have a regular scancode.

    Quote from: Ouro on Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:03:35
    Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?

    EliteKeyboards isn't really good for anything on your list other than lube. I suggest checking out MechanicalKeyboards.com and Techkeys.us

    Quote from: wlhlm on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:19:49
    Quote from: njbair on Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:14:19
    Do stickers really make a difference?
    I think it looks good on assembly pictures ;)

    See the OP. I think they're a waste of time and money to be honest. It's a PITA to add the stickers on and you'll see them....once or twice a month or year when you swap caps? Putting them on solely to take a nice picture is a colossal waste of time in my eyes.

    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 12 April 2015, 16:57:15
    Thanks guys.  But I was wondering as a possible source for buckling springs caps with custom legends.  Mostly multi unit stabilized keys.

    Did you see rowdy's reply from Fentek? I think they might be able to help you out.

    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 23:25:39
    Any of these mech boards?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDQ1MA==/z/J1MAAOSwnDxUlKza/$_27.JPG)


    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/J54AAOSwnDxUlKze/$_27.JPG)


    I don't think so. Looks like all rubber domes to me.


    Pretty sure that's everything from when I was AFK. Let me know if I missed anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 14 April 2015, 21:30:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 April 2015, 09:16:20

    1) Use swill's tool and get it to spit out the 2D CAD file for you, not the drawing.
    2) Open the file in FreeCAD or your CAD program of choice
    3) Add in the tabs.

    Swill's tool only does the plate.



    Thanks!  Will try that now  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ceflame on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:25:02
    Is there currently any place to purchase PCB mounted cherry stabilizers besides GON and winkeyless?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:28:26
    Quote from: ceflame on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:25:02
    Is there currently any place to purchase PCB mounted cherry stabilizers besides GON and winkeyless?
    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55

    but their description is vague, not sure what's in the kit. Probably 4x2u & 1x6.25u
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ceflame on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:32:40
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:28:26
    Quote from: ceflame on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:25:02
    Is there currently any place to purchase PCB mounted cherry stabilizers besides GON and winkeyless?
    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55)

    but their description is vague, not sure what's in the kit. Probably 4x2u & 1x6.25u

    Those are the knock-off stabilizers though right? I think I remember seeing someone post a negative review about them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 15 April 2015, 04:28:56
    Anybody know somewhere where I can try out a Topre keyboard? My location is San Jose, CA. LA is too far, I can buy the keyboard with the gas money. SF is possible but it's really reaching. Anybody know of a local Frys that has one out to try maybe?  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 15 April 2015, 05:48:26
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 15 April 2015, 04:28:56
    Anybody know somewhere where I can try out a Topre keyboard? My location is San Jose, CA. LA is too far, I can buy the keyboard with the gas money. SF is possible but it's really reaching. Anybody know of a local Frys that has one out to try maybe?  :(

    My US geography is a bit vague.  Are you anywhere near EK?

    http://www.elitekeyboards.com/support.php?lang=en#10
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 15 April 2015, 05:49:19
    I checked earlier. EK is too far from San Jose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 15 April 2015, 06:26:25
    New question, this one a little more time sensitive:
    Anybody know of a PBT keycap that allows for backlighting to shine through with the led BELOWWWWW the switch?
    The Vortex PBT+Pom keycaps do not work at all with my YOTH which has the led below the switch. I'm sitting here paying for a Kmac, trying to get a Gon PCB change to get leds on all keys, and now I realize the led orientation is below the switch and there's no getting around that.

    Second question is related:
    I've never used a non-backlit keycap on a keyboard with backlighting, ever. How visible is the lettering when gaming at night with my monitor on but the lights off?


    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 15 April 2015, 05:48:26
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 15 April 2015, 04:28:56
    Anybody know somewhere where I can try out a Topre keyboard? My location is San Jose, CA. LA is too far, I can buy the keyboard with the gas money. SF is possible but it's really reaching. Anybody know of a local Frys that has one out to try maybe?  :(

    My US geography is a bit vague.  Are you anywhere near EK?

    http://www.elitekeyboards.com/support.php?lang=en#10
    Unfortunately that location is practically LA, maybe a bit farther. I've contacted a random guy selling a Novatouch, asking him if I can type on it for a little bit to try it.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 April 2015, 07:56:13
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 15 April 2015, 06:26:25
    1) Anybody know of a PBT keycap that allows for backlighting to shine through with the led BELOWWWWW the switch?
    More
    The Vortex PBT+Pom keycaps do not work at all with my YOTH which has the led below the switch. I'm sitting here paying for a Kmac, trying to get a Gon PCB change to get leds on all keys, and now I realize the led orientation is below the switch and there's no getting around that.


    2) I've never used a non-backlit keycap on a keyboard with backlighting, ever. How visible is the lettering when gaming at night with my monitor on but the lights off?

    3) Anybody know somewhere where I can try out a Topre keyboard?

    More
    My location is San Jose, CA. LA is too far, I can buy the keyboard with the gas money. SF is possible but it's really reaching. Anybody know of a local Frys that has one out to try maybe?  :(

    My US geography is a bit vague.  Are you anywhere near EK?

    http://www.elitekeyboards.com/support.php?lang=en#10

    Unfortunately that location is practically LA, maybe a bit farther. I've contacted a random guy selling a Novatouch, asking him if I can type on it for a little bit to try it.

    1) Other than those Vortex caps, there's no PBT caps which are backlit compatible.
    2) Should be fine but honestly, I've been touch typing for years so I'm not the best person to ask. Just out of curiosity, is there a reason you don't want to learn how to touch type?
    3) I'm running a Novatouch tour (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64602.0) but you need 100 posts in order to join.

    Quote from: ceflame on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:25:02
    Is there currently any place to purchase PCB mounted cherry stabilizers besides GON and winkeyless?

    Not that I know of other than imsto's. Not sure if they're original Cherry or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Wed, 15 April 2015, 08:15:39
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 15 April 2015, 06:26:25
    Second question is related:
    I've never used a non-backlit keycap on a keyboard with backlighting, ever. How visible is the lettering when gaming at night with my monitor on but the lights off?

    I think the CPT answered your other questions well, but to answer this one: as someone who needs to see the keys for reassurance (I can almost touch type but my fingers lack confidence), this depends heavily on the font and contrast of the keycaps. Filco ninja keycaps, SUPER hard to see at night on a non-backlit keyboard. OG Cherry white on black doubleshots, not a problem seeing in the world. I'm currently using IMSTO's blue/red hangul set and I have 0 issues seeing the random system keys I need for gaming (I have trouble locating like "L" with my left hand when I'm playing an MMO for example without being able to see the keyboard). 

    (http://i.imgur.com/wuKIYX1.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 15 April 2015, 22:19:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 April 2015, 07:56:13
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 15 April 2015, 06:26:25
    1) Anybody know of a PBT keycap that allows for backlighting to shine through with the led BELOWWWWW the switch?
    More
    The Vortex PBT+Pom keycaps do not work at all with my YOTH which has the led below the switch. I'm sitting here paying for a Kmac, trying to get a Gon PCB change to get leds on all keys, and now I realize the led orientation is below the switch and there's no getting around that.


    2) I've never used a non-backlit keycap on a keyboard with backlighting, ever. How visible is the lettering when gaming at night with my monitor on but the lights off?

    3) Anybody know somewhere where I can try out a Topre keyboard?

    More
    My location is San Jose, CA. LA is too far, I can buy the keyboard with the gas money. SF is possible but it's really reaching. Anybody know of a local Frys that has one out to try maybe?  :(

    My US geography is a bit vague.  Are you anywhere near EK?

    http://www.elitekeyboards.com/support.php?lang=en#10

    Unfortunately that location is practically LA, maybe a bit farther. I've contacted a random guy selling a Novatouch, asking him if I can type on it for a little bit to try it.
    I just like seeing letters when I look down on my keyboard, lol. Well, I like to see letters lit up. But if I don't fix the keycap vs led below the switch problem, that's not going to happen either way.
    Somebody suggested I get clear tops and bright leds to see if it can shine through the keycaps despite leds being below the switch.

    1) Other than those Vortex caps, there's no PBT caps which are backlit compatible.
    2) Should be fine but honestly, I've been touch typing for years so I'm not the best person to ask. Just out of curiosity, is there a reason you don't want to learn how to touch type?
    3) I'm running a Novatouch tour (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64602.0) but you need 100 posts in order to join.

    Quote from: ceflame on Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:25:02
    Is there currently any place to purchase PCB mounted cherry stabilizers besides GON and winkeyless?

    Not that I know of other than imsto's. Not sure if they're original Cherry or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 16 April 2015, 22:37:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 April 2015, 09:16:20
    Quote from: StinkyTheDonut on Sun, 12 April 2015, 03:16:23
    I have a really petty question.
    Should I set up my plate for stepped offset caps lock or centered caps lock?
    Don't want that wide modular cutout or mod the stem for my backlit key either lol

    Do you want a stepped or centered caps lock? Go from there.
    Thanks.
    After some thinking, maybe I will just make it centered and try to mod the stepped cap.
    If I ruin it, or it doesn't light up at all, it wont be too big a deal since I have a normal centered cap.
    Really just wanted it for looks and have it further out of the way since i don't use it much lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:29:41
    Hi guys,

    I want to ask how good is this soldering kit for a one off assembling project?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soldering-Iron-Tool-Kit-Set-Stand-Sponge-Desolder-Pump-Solder-Wire-Magnifier-GC-/331446143457?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d2bbac9e1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:46:35
    Quote from: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:29:41
    Hi guys,

    I want to ask how good is this soldering kit for a one off assembling project?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soldering-Iron-Tool-Kit-Set-Stand-Sponge-Desolder-Pump-Solder-Wire-Magnifier-GC-/331446143457?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d2bbac9e1

    Um...Looks pretty shoddy to be honest. Never seen that before. But it's probably no worse than what they sell at MicroCenter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 17 April 2015, 16:14:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:46:35
    Quote from: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:29:41
    Hi guys,

    I want to ask how good is this soldering kit for a one off assembling project?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soldering-Iron-Tool-Kit-Set-Stand-Sponge-Desolder-Pump-Solder-Wire-Magnifier-GC-/331446143457?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d2bbac9e1

    Um...Looks pretty shoddy to be honest. Never seen that before. But it's probably no worse than what they sell at MicroCenter.

    Do you know any decent soldering kit that I can purchase within EU region?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 17:03:40
    Quote from: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 17 April 2015, 16:14:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:46:35
    Quote from: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:29:41
    Hi guys,

    I want to ask how good is this soldering kit for a one off assembling project?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soldering-Iron-Tool-Kit-Set-Stand-Sponge-Desolder-Pump-Solder-Wire-Magnifier-GC-/331446143457?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d2bbac9e1

    Um...Looks pretty shoddy to be honest. Never seen that before. But it's probably no worse than what they sell at MicroCenter.

    Do you know any decent soldering kit that I can purchase within EU region?
    Unfortunately I don't know anything about soldering kits in the EU. I suggest posting in the living soldering thread and asking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 17 April 2015, 18:15:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 17:03:40
    Quote from: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 17 April 2015, 16:14:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:46:35
    Quote from: r0mIe_Ng on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:29:41
    Hi guys,

    I want to ask how good is this soldering kit for a one off assembling project?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soldering-Iron-Tool-Kit-Set-Stand-Sponge-Desolder-Pump-Solder-Wire-Magnifier-GC-/331446143457?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d2bbac9e1

    Um...Looks pretty shoddy to be honest. Never seen that before. But it's probably no worse than what they sell at MicroCenter.

    Do you know any decent soldering kit that I can purchase within EU region?
    Unfortunately I don't know anything about soldering kits in the EU. I suggest posting in the living soldering thread and asking.

    Aright i see. Thanks again for your help. Gladly appreciated!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kakakowie on Sun, 19 April 2015, 09:00:11
    I'm looking for a 60% pcb that has the mini usb port coming out from the side rather than the top. I use a 60% over my laptop and the cable on top gets in the way.

    Are there any 60% PCBs with this feature or would I have to rewire my current one myself?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 09:47:40
    Quote from: kakakowie on Sun, 19 April 2015, 09:00:11
    I'm looking for a 60% pcb that has the mini usb port coming out from the side rather than the top. I use a 60% over my laptop and the cable on top gets in the way.

    Are there any 60% PCBs with this feature or would I have to rewire my current one myself?
    Ducky mini and ducky mini year of the horse.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sun, 19 April 2015, 12:12:44
    Quote from: kakakowie on Sun, 19 April 2015, 09:00:11
    I'm looking for a 60% pcb that has the mini usb port coming out from the side rather than the top. I use a 60% over my laptop and the cable on top gets in the way.

    Are there any 60% PCBs with this feature or would I have to rewire my current one myself?
    There are 90º mini usb adapters available that can be found on EBay for cheap. Then you can use any 60% with a front connector on your laptop. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 19 April 2015, 12:15:38
    Simple question: what is the difference between this extremely expensive Krytox grease and cheap grease for bike mechanics etc.?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 12:21:49
    Quote from: Eszett on Sun, 19 April 2015, 12:15:38
    Simple question: what is the difference between this extremely expensive Krytox grease and cheap grease for bike mechanics etc.?

    It supposedly won't break down and won't migrate like other lubricants. If you search for some of mkawa's posts, he goes into a ton of detail on Krytox. It's become a standard and I picked it up for pretty cheap personally so I've been using it. But I've also got some Teflon dry film lube that I'm going to be testing soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 19 April 2015, 13:02:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 12:21:49
    It supposedly won't break down and won't migrate like other lubricants. If you search for some of mkawa's posts, he goes into a ton of detail on Krytox. It's become a standard and I picked it up for pretty cheap personally so I've been using it. But I've also got some Teflon dry film lube that I'm going to be testing soon.

    Hi Captain! I think I get it. However, please start testing cheaper alternatives, since I have a dull feeling in my guts to buy 5ml for 20$ or something. It is the feeling to get "click-clacked" ;-)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 13:05:05
    Quote from: Eszett on Sun, 19 April 2015, 13:02:26
    Hi Captain! I think I get it. However, please start testing cheaper alternatives, since I have a dull feeling in my guts to buy 5ml for 20$ or something. It is the feeling to get "click-clacked" ;-)

    I mean just because I use and prefer something doesn't mean you need to use that. I'd be interested in seeing your thoughts on different lubricants as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 19 April 2015, 13:31:40
    Captain! I will do that as soon as I can spare a worthless keyboard to act as dummy for a treatment with bike-grease. For now I have to rely on the experience of other people, since my keyboard is a "cuddled pet" so to say ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 19 April 2015, 18:29:23
    In a 60% keyboard, for example with a gon pcb,  what difference does the plate make?

    No plate:
    More silent
    More damping

    With plate:
    More strength when removing the key caps
    Better esthetics
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 21:00:51
    Quote from: gianni on Sun, 19 April 2015, 18:29:23
    In a 60% keyboard, for example with a gon pcb,  what difference does the plate make?

    No plate:
    More silent
    More damping

    With plate:
    More strength when removing the key caps
    Better esthetics
    Depending on the board design, such as a GON, you might need the plate as it's part of the case. If it's like a Pure or Poker X, you won't need one. I prefer a plate. Feels more solid and stable. And the bottom outs feel a bit more solid. Plateless makes the switches feel softer. A plate is definitely not an aesthetic thing. It serves a very noticeable function.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 19 April 2015, 22:30:32
    Quote from: Eszett on Sun, 19 April 2015, 12:15:38
    what is the difference between this extremely expensive Krytox grease and cheap grease for bike mechanics etc.?

    Lubing stabilizer wires calls for a thick grease that does not affect plastic over time and does not migrate.

    I have a 5cc syringe that I got from elite keyboards that has lasted for literally dozens of keyboards.

    Lubing the internal parts of switches is very much precision work and requires a light lubricant that is extremely kind to plastics.

    Lubricating bicycle parts means heavy-duty metal-on-metal contact and you will want it to migrate, but also to stick on, even through rainstorms.

    Very different materials, applications, requirements, and environments.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 02:08:01
    So I got this today and it looks like some variant of DIN AT connector, but the pins are more widely spaced. Does anyone know anything about these, and do you know if there are any adapters around to make it compatible with more common interfaces?
    More
    (http://i.imgur.com/hgINIVx.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 21 April 2015, 05:53:58
    Thanks, this would be my first build. I was going to purchase a gon pcb with a pexon case. The iso plate with cutouts seems impossible to find. I found one that required pcb mounted stabs. That seems non sense.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 21:00:51
    Quote from: gianni on Sun, 19 April 2015, 18:29:23
    In a 60% keyboard, for example with a gon pcb,  what difference does the plate make?

    No plate:
    More silent
    More damping

    With plate:
    More strength when removing the key caps
    Better esthetics
    Depending on the board design, such as a GON, you might need the plate as it's part of the case. If it's like a Pure or Poker X, you won't need one. I prefer a plate. Feels more solid and stable. And the bottom outs feel a bit more solid. Plateless makes the switches feel softer. A plate is definitely not an aesthetic thing. It serves a very noticeable function.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:14:53
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 02:08:01
    So I got this today and it looks like some variant of DIN AT connector, but the pins are more widely spaced. Does anyone know anything about these, and do you know if there are any adapters around to make it compatible with more common interfaces?
    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hgINIVx.jpg)

    Ugh I know I've seen threads on that connector but I can't find them at the moment. A Soarer's (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0) would work though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:16:48
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 02:08:01
    it looks like some variant of DIN AT connector, but the pins are more widely spaced.

    Early 122-key Model M terminals used the "240 degree DIN plug" (sometimes called the 270 degree) as opposed to the "180 degree" standard DIN connector.

    What seems strange about yours is that the arc of the pins and the index bump would cause it to be plugged in at an angle, which might be very awkward. IBM made straight (1st generation with metal screw rim) and 90 degree (2nd generation, all plastic) versions.

    The pins look a little different but it may be an optical illusion or my bad eyesight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:41:02
    Question:
    The plug on the Kmac 2. It's a mini-usb connection, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:41:56
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:41:02
    Question:
    The plug on the Kmac 2. It's a mini-usb connection, right?

    Yes. Very few keyboards use the micro USB connections. Most are using the mini.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:55:07
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:16:48
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 02:08:01
    it looks like some variant of DIN AT connector, but the pins are more widely spaced.

    Early 122-key Model M terminals used the "240 degree DIN plug" (sometimes called the 270 degree) as opposed to the "180 degree" standard DIN connector.

    What seems strange about yours is that the arc of the pins and the index bump would cause it to be plugged in at an angle, which might be very awkward. IBM made straight (1st generation with metal screw rim) and 90 degree (2nd generation, all plastic) versions.

    The pins look a little different but it may be an optical illusion or my bad eyesight.

    So I've looked on ebay for a bit and I can see that people have the connectors for sale. The only premade cable available is the Soarer's Converter from Orihalcon. Apart from those, would my only option be buying a connector, some cable and a PS/2 connector and making my own adapter? How do I know the pinouts?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:03:18
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:55:07
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:16:48
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 02:08:01
    it looks like some variant of DIN AT connector, but the pins are more widely spaced.

    Early 122-key Model M terminals used the "240 degree DIN plug" (sometimes called the 270 degree) as opposed to the "180 degree" standard DIN connector.

    What seems strange about yours is that the arc of the pins and the index bump would cause it to be plugged in at an angle, which might be very awkward. IBM made straight (1st generation with metal screw rim) and 90 degree (2nd generation, all plastic) versions.

    The pins look a little different but it may be an optical illusion or my bad eyesight.

    So I've looked on ebay for a bit and I can see that people have the connectors for sale. The only premade cable available is the Soarer's Converter from Orihalcon. Apart from those, would my only option be buying a connector, some cable and a PS/2 connector and making my own adapter? How do I know the pinouts?

    Thanks.

    Soarer's converter isn't just made by Orihalcon. You can make your own if you check out the link I posted before. A Soarer converter is really just a Teensy based Converter that Soarer came up with. Orihalcon sells some and there maybe others. There may be an adapter you can buy that converts your connector to PS/2 then you can daisy chain a PS/2 to USB converter after that. The OP of Soarer's thread has some pinouts. I'm not sure how else you can find them out. But it looks like your pins are just rotated and you can use some of the pin outs. Otherwise, you can try searching for your keyboard online and see if anyone has pinouts. Alternatively, you can PM Haata or Dorkvader and see if they can help.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:12:24
    After several iterations, I settled on this as my endgame converter box.

    If you are going to stay in the game, this will make life a lot easier. Spend the $30-40 and the hour or 2 and make a really nice box in an aluminum (aka aluminium) case.

    One day I am going to open this up and connect that 5th wire to the Teensy in hopes of getting something that will work with a Leading Edge 2014.

    PS - shameless plug - for GHers in the US, there is this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70203.msg1688887#msg1688887
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:52:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:03:18
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:55:07
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:16:48
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 02:08:01
    it looks like some variant of DIN AT connector, but the pins are more widely spaced.

    Early 122-key Model M terminals used the "240 degree DIN plug" (sometimes called the 270 degree) as opposed to the "180 degree" standard DIN connector.

    What seems strange about yours is that the arc of the pins and the index bump would cause it to be plugged in at an angle, which might be very awkward. IBM made straight (1st generation with metal screw rim) and 90 degree (2nd generation, all plastic) versions.

    The pins look a little different but it may be an optical illusion or my bad eyesight.

    So I've looked on ebay for a bit and I can see that people have the connectors for sale. The only premade cable available is the Soarer's Converter from Orihalcon. Apart from those, would my only option be buying a connector, some cable and a PS/2 connector and making my own adapter? How do I know the pinouts?

    Thanks.

    Soarer's converter isn't just made by Orihalcon. You can make your own if you check out the link I posted before. A Soarer converter is really just a Teensy based Converter that Soarer came up with. Orihalcon sells some and there maybe others. There may be an adapter you can buy that converts your connector to PS/2 then you can daisy chain a PS/2 to USB converter after that. The OP of Soarer's thread has some pinouts. I'm not sure how else you can find them out. But it looks like your pins are just rotated and you can use some of the pin outs. Otherwise, you can try searching for your keyboard online and see if anyone has pinouts. Alternatively, you can PM Haata or Dorkvader and see if they can help.

    Yeah, I know that. I was just referring to the premade ones Orihalcon SCs as the only "adapters" (I know it's more than just a simple adapter) available, it seems.

    I would like to find a simple adapter that does what you said. I'll keep looking for a bit but I might need to make my own in the end.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:57:03
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:52:02
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:03:18
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:55:07
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 21 April 2015, 08:16:48
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 02:08:01
    it looks like some variant of DIN AT connector, but the pins are more widely spaced.

    Early 122-key Model M terminals used the "240 degree DIN plug" (sometimes called the 270 degree) as opposed to the "180 degree" standard DIN connector.

    What seems strange about yours is that the arc of the pins and the index bump would cause it to be plugged in at an angle, which might be very awkward. IBM made straight (1st generation with metal screw rim) and 90 degree (2nd generation, all plastic) versions.

    The pins look a little different but it may be an optical illusion or my bad eyesight.

    So I've looked on ebay for a bit and I can see that people have the connectors for sale. The only premade cable available is the Soarer's Converter from Orihalcon. Apart from those, would my only option be buying a connector, some cable and a PS/2 connector and making my own adapter? How do I know the pinouts?

    Thanks.

    Soarer's converter isn't just made by Orihalcon. You can make your own if you check out the link I posted before. A Soarer converter is really just a Teensy based Converter that Soarer came up with. Orihalcon sells some and there maybe others. There may be an adapter you can buy that converts your connector to PS/2 then you can daisy chain a PS/2 to USB converter after that. The OP of Soarer's thread has some pinouts. I'm not sure how else you can find them out. But it looks like your pins are just rotated and you can use some of the pin outs. Otherwise, you can try searching for your keyboard online and see if anyone has pinouts. Alternatively, you can PM Haata or Dorkvader and see if they can help.


    Yeah, I know that. I was just referring to the premade ones Orihalcon SCs as the only "adapters" (I know it's more than just a simple adapter) available, it seems.

    I would like to find a simple adapter that does what you said. I'll keep looking for a bit but I might need to make my own in the end.

    FWIW, I've got a Din 5 to PS/2 converter on my Siig Minitouch. I got it at Microcenter but you can get them online as well. In order to get it to type, I need to use two converters: Din 5 to PS/2 then PS/2 to USB. This is because for some reason, plugging it right into the PS/2 port won't work. At the very least, you could get one of these Din 5 to PS/2 adapters for cheap and test it. Then you can decide if you need to make a Soarer's or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:57:50
    Does a 65% ISO compatible pcb exist?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:58:13
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:57:50
    Does a 65% ISO compatible pcb exist?

    I've never seen that exact layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 21 April 2015, 10:02:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:57:03
    FWIW, I've got a Din 5 to PS/2 converter on my Siig Minitouch. I got it at Microcenter but you can get them online as well. In order to get it to type, I need to use two converters: Din 5 to PS/2 then PS/2 to USB. This is because for some reason, plugging it right into the PS/2 port won't work. At the very least, you could get one of these Din 5 to PS/2 adapters for cheap and test it. Then you can decide if you need to make a Soarer's or not.

    Right. I have several standard DIN 5 to ps/2 adapters already, that part isn't a problem. This keyboard has the 270 degree pins though. I found someone online saying that Amstrad used a proprietary standard for their keyboard connectors, so it looks like it'll be a DIY job if I want to get this working.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 21 April 2015, 10:05:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:58:13
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:57:50
    Does a 65% ISO compatible pcb exist?

    I've never seen that exact layout.
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/54c20e2fde4694ffdd014374a62694ca
    something like that, Bottom row to be adjusted probably with 2x1.5u mods to fill the gap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 10:25:50
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 21 April 2015, 10:05:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:58:13
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 21 April 2015, 09:57:50
    Does a 65% ISO compatible pcb exist?

    I've never seen that exact layout.
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/54c20e2fde4694ffdd014374a62694ca
    something like that, Bottom row to be adjusted probably with 2x1.5u mods to fill the gap.

    The link doesn't work on my computer at work but I think I know what you're asking for. What I meant is that I've never seen that layout available on any PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 21 April 2015, 10:42:23
    Quote from: gianni on Tue, 21 April 2015, 05:53:58
    Thanks, this would be my first build. I was going to purchase a gon pcb with a pexon case. The iso plate with cutouts seems impossible to find. I found one that required pcb mounted stabs. That seems non sense.

    It's not nonsense that a plate would require the use of PCB mount stabilizers. In fact, most of the plates I now design have the same requirement. By eliminating the requirement on the plate to have cutouts specific to a stabilizer hole, you can use a simpler hole design that is basically just an opening to allow the PCB mounted stabilizer to pass through the plate. This is done in so-called "universal" plates, so that overlapping holes can be used, which support varied layout options. Otherwise, to design a plate that allows for plate mounted stabilizers, you lose the layout options, and are limited to a specific layout, such as ISO versus ANSI, in the plate design. It's much more economical to design one plate which will work with many layouts, than to require a distributor to make a minimum purchase of several different plates which may or may not sell. Many people prefer PCB mount stabilizers, anyway, so requiring their use doesn't seem a hurdle to sales.

    That said, you can always design your own plate and have a one-off made, albeit at a higher cost to yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 21 April 2015, 14:52:08
    I thought that it was nonsense because the captain said that plate mounted switches are better and more solid, so it seemed that to mount the stab on the pcb could add flex and some rattle. Surely it adds flexibility, wasn't sure about the final performance...


    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 21 April 2015, 10:42:23
    Quote from: gianni on Tue, 21 April 2015, 05:53:58
    Thanks, this would be my first build. I was going to purchase a gon pcb with a pexon case. The iso plate with cutouts seems impossible to find. I found one that required pcb mounted stabs. That seems non sense.

    It's not nonsense that a plate would require the use of PCB mount stabilizers. In fact, most of the plates I now design have the same requirement. By eliminating the requirement on the plate to have cutouts specific to a stabilizer hole, you can use a simpler hole design that is basically just an opening to allow the PCB mounted stabilizer to pass through the plate. This is done in so-called "universal" plates, so that overlapping holes can be used, which support varied layout options. Otherwise, to design a plate that allows for plate mounted stabilizers, you lose the layout options, and are limited to a specific layout, such as ISO versus ANSI, in the plate design. It's much more economical to design one plate which will work with many layouts, than to require a distributor to make a minimum purchase of several different plates which may or may not sell. Many people prefer PCB mount stabilizers, anyway, so requiring their use doesn't seem a hurdle to sales.

    That said, you can always design your own plate and have a one-off made, albeit at a higher cost to yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 21 April 2015, 18:20:59
    Does anyone know the default combination to toggle on/off all the LEDs on a KMAC Happy keyboard?
    Looking at the KMAC Happy programming tool, the default is the left-most top row key (Esc / ~) in the Function layer, but I guess the KMAC Happy in front of me had been reprogrammed, since I can't get any combination I've tried so far to turn off the LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ouro on Tue, 21 April 2015, 23:59:13
    Are there MX Clears in stock anywhere at this point? If not, how consistent are the White switches available from mechanicalkeyboards.com? Need switches for my incoming Red Scarf but don't want Linear, and Green is too loud ~_~
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trizkut on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:03:08
    Quote from: Ouro on Tue, 21 April 2015, 23:59:13
    Are there MX Clears in stock anywhere at this point? If not, how consistent are the White switches available from mechanicalkeyboards.com? Need switches for my incoming Red Scarf but don't want Linear, and Green is too loud ~_~

    I think zeal (zealpc.net) still has some, but you'll be paying a fair bit for shipping and it might not be worth it for you unless you buy a bit more than just switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:22:01

    Quote from: trizkut on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:03:08
    Quote from: Ouro on Tue, 21 April 2015, 23:59:13
    Are there MX Clears in stock anywhere at this point? If not, how consistent are the White switches available from mechanicalkeyboards.com? Need switches for my incoming Red Scarf but don't want Linear, and Green is too loud ~_~

    I think zeal (zealpc.net) still has some, but you'll be paying a fair bit for shipping and it might not be worth it for you unless you buy a bit more than just switches.
    There is a code that is listed that is for free shipping on switches
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1

    http://builder.swillkb.com/

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1

    http://builder.swillkb.com/

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:31:46
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1

    http://builder.swillkb.com/

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    What do you mean by line up? Are you talking about the top row gap/ spacing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:33:11

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:31:46
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1

    http://builder.swillkb.com/

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    What do you mean by line up? Are you talking about the top row gap/ spacing?
    Yeah, but the spacing issues were only with the function keys in relation to the main part, and the TKL to the main part
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:35:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:33:11

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:31:46
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1

    http://builder.swillkb.com/

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    What do you mean by line up? Are you talking about the top row gap/ spacing?
    Yeah, but the spacing issues were only with the function keys in relation to the main part, and the TKL to the main part
    Do you still have the measurements you used?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ouro on Wed, 22 April 2015, 10:24:01
    Quote from: trizkut on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:03:08
    Quote from: Ouro on Tue, 21 April 2015, 23:59:13
    Are there MX Clears in stock anywhere at this point? If not, how consistent are the White switches available from mechanicalkeyboards.com? Need switches for my incoming Red Scarf but don't want Linear, and Green is too loud ~_~

    I think zeal (zealpc.net) still has some, but you'll be paying a fair bit for shipping and it might not be worth it for you unless you buy a bit more than just switches.

    It appears I'm too late. No White or CLear plate mounted switches. GON has some but they're PCB mounted IIRC
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 22 April 2015, 10:24:29

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:35:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:33:11

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:31:46
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1

    http://builder.swillkb.com/

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    What do you mean by line up? Are you talking about the top row gap/ spacing?
    Yeah, but the spacing issues were only with the function keys in relation to the main part, and the TKL to the main part
    Do you still have the measurements you used?
    Not on me right now, I might be able to grab them later today, definitely tomorrow
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 10:29:57
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 10:24:29
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:35:53
    Do you still have the measurements you used?
    Not on me right now, I might be able to grab them later today, definitely tomorrow

    Thanks  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 22 April 2015, 23:05:56
    For Stab lube which Tamiya lube should I be using?

    GP-383 flouropolymer grease? the OP-439 antiwear grease? Or something else?


    Also on the off chance that someone knows, where can I get krytox or RO-59 here in Japan?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fi0x on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:15:14
    Does anyone know what keyboard this is? All I know is that its a ducky keyboard with white ducky keycaps, but I don't know what the keyboard/keyboard case is.
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spale on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:47:27
    I recently bought Cherry G80-3000 LSCEU-0, and I really like BLUE switches, but I need something stronger, like MX Greens.
    So I have to ask is it possible (for someone who is not techical expert) to change MX blues to MX greens since current ones are PCB mounted ( thats what I heard please correct me)?

    So blues for greens is it doable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:01:58
    Quote from: spale on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:47:27
    I recently bought Cherry G80-3000 LSCEU-0, and I really like BLUE switches, but I need something stronger, like MX Greens.
    So I have to ask is it possible (for someone who is not techical expert) to change MX blues to MX greens since current ones are PCB mounted ( thats what I heard please correct me)?

    So blues for greens is it doable?

    You can make yourself Ghetto greens, find yourelf stiffer springs, open up the switch top, swap the springs and that's about it, consider lube.
    Aside from the color, blue stem is similar to the greens.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spale on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:05:53
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:01:58
    Quote from: spale on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:47:27
    I recently bought Cherry G80-3000 LSCEU-0, and I really like BLUE switches, but I need something stronger, like MX Greens.
    So I have to ask is it possible (for someone who is not techical expert) to change MX blues to MX greens since current ones are PCB mounted ( thats what I heard please correct me)?

    So blues for greens is it doable?

    You can make yourself Ghetto greens, find yourelf stiffer springs, open up the switch top, swap the springs and that's about it, consider lube.
    Aside from the color, blue stem is similar to the greens.

    Ghetto greens, sounds legit :)
    Nice suggestion, can you just point me to some store in Europe that has those springs I need?
    I also saw this:
    Spring force is measured by bottom out force, NOT actuation force.

    Does it mean I need 80g springs or stronger/weaker?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:17:19
    Quote from: spale on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:05:53
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:01:58
    Quote from: spale on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:47:27
    I recently bought Cherry G80-3000 LSCEU-0, and I really like BLUE switches, but I need something stronger, like MX Greens.
    So I have to ask is it possible (for someone who is not techical expert) to change MX blues to MX greens since current ones are PCB mounted ( thats what I heard please correct me)?

    So blues for greens is it doable?

    You can make yourself Ghetto greens, find yourelf stiffer springs, open up the switch top, swap the springs and that's about it, consider lube.
    Aside from the color, blue stem is similar to the greens.

    Ghetto greens, sounds legit :)
    Nice suggestion, can you just point me to some store in Europe that has those springs I need?
    I also saw this:
    Spring force is measured by bottom out force, NOT actuation force.

    Does it mean I need 80g springs or stronger/weaker?
    Here's an interesting thread about spring weights: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0
    You need springs that are above 80g in bottom out force. Remember the korean measure it at the bottom out.

    Easiest option is probably to source them here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0 , you could also get the spring from a mx black keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spale on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:36:29
    Great man, thx for the reply, now I know what to do.
    Cheers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 07:43:57
    Quote from: fi0x on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:15:14
    Does anyone know what keyboard this is? All I know is that its a ducky keyboard with white ducky keycaps, but I don't know what the keyboard/keyboard case is.
    (Attachment Link)

    Maybe it's this Shine II (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=333)? You could also Look through this list (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=ducky) and see if any other board looks similar. Ducky has a lot of boards and variants, many of which look the same to me, so I'm never 100% sure on IDing them.

    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:01:58
    Quote from: spale on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:47:27
    I recently bought Cherry G80-3000 LSCEU-0, and I really like BLUE switches, but I need something stronger, like MX Greens.
    So I have to ask is it possible (for someone who is not techical expert) to change MX blues to MX greens since current ones are PCB mounted ( thats what I heard please correct me)?

    So blues for greens is it doable?

    You can make yourself Ghetto greens, find yourelf stiffer springs, open up the switch top, swap the springs and that's about it, consider lube.
    Aside from the color, blue stem is similar to the greens.

    I'd stay away from lubing clicky switches. I've not had good experience with lubed Blues. It seems to remove some of the click from them.

    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 22 April 2015, 23:05:56
    For Stab lube which Tamiya lube should I be using?

    GP-383 flouropolymer grease? the OP-439 antiwear grease? Or something else?


    Also on the off chance that someone knows, where can I get krytox or RO-59 here in Japan?

    I think it's WASD who uses SuperLube on their stabilizers. So whatever the Tamiya equivalent is? Something thick. And I don't know anything about sourcing lube in Japan. I'm in the process of testing out some dry film Teflon lube for switches though so maybe you'd like to experiment with different lubes? Also Hasu may be able to help you.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 April 2015, 08:11:40
    Quote from: fi0x on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:15:14
    Does anyone know what keyboard this is? All I know is that its a ducky keyboard with white ducky keycaps, but I don't know what the keyboard/keyboard case is.
    (Attachment Link)

    I think maybe it's a Shine 4.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 08:33:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 07:43:57
    Quote from: fi0x on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:15:14
    Does anyone know what keyboard this is? All I know is that its a ducky keyboard with white ducky keycaps, but I don't know what the keyboard/keyboard case is.
    (Attachment Link)

    Maybe it's this Shine II (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=333)? You could also Look through this list (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=ducky) and see if any other board looks similar. Ducky has a lot of boards and variants, many of which look the same to me, so I'm never 100% sure on IDing them.

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 April 2015, 08:11:40
    Quote from: fi0x on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:15:14
    Does anyone know what keyboard this is? All I know is that its a ducky keyboard with white ducky keycaps, but I don't know what the keyboard/keyboard case is.
    (Attachment Link)

    I think maybe it's a Shine 4.

    It's a Shine II. The media key legends on F1-F4 are the giveaway. The 3 and 4 moved the media keys to the navigation cluster.

    But I think the point is, if you want a board with a similar look, you want some iteration of the Ducky Shine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: admiralvorian on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:01:42
    Has anyone tried gateron browns? I see lots of reviews for almost all the other types. I'm a tactile switch fanatic - ergo clears and 45g topre. Would love it if there were gaters i could hype on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:04:06
    Quote from: admiralvorian on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:01:42
    Has anyone tried gateron browns? I see lots of reviews for almost all the other types. I'm a tactile switch fanatic - ergo clears and 45g topre. Would love it if there were gaters i could hype on.
    sadly you can't, they're slightly better than the mx but still not as tactile as ergos or Topre.
    I wish gaterons made them browns ergo-like :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:05:12
    Quote from: admiralvorian on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:01:42
    Has anyone tried gateron browns? I see lots of reviews for almost all the other types. I'm a tactile switch fanatic - ergo clears and 45g topre. Would love it if there were gaters i could hype on.

    I regret not ordering some to try out. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 23 April 2015, 12:55:05
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:04:06
    Quote from: admiralvorian on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:01:42
    Has anyone tried gateron browns? I see lots of reviews for almost all the other types. I'm a tactile switch fanatic - ergo clears and 45g topre. Would love it if there were gaters i could hype on.
    sadly you can't, they're slightly better than the mx but still not as tactile as ergos or Topre.
    I wish gaterons made them browns ergo-like :/
    yep, right now browns are the only tactile switch gater manufactures. I can't see that being the case for very long though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trigun0x2 on Thu, 23 April 2015, 13:27:59
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 10:24:29

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:35:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:33:11

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:31:46
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1

    http://builder.swillkb.com/

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    What do you mean by line up? Are you talking about the top row gap/ spacing?
    Yeah, but the spacing issues were only with the function keys in relation to the main part, and the TKL to the main part
    Do you still have the measurements you used?
    Not on me right now, I might be able to grab them later today, definitely tomorrow

    Any updates on the numbers? :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 23 April 2015, 17:04:23
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Thu, 23 April 2015, 13:27:59
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 10:24:29

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:35:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:33:11

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:31:46
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1)

    http://builder.swillkb.com/ (http://builder.swillkb.com/)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0)

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    What do you mean by line up? Are you talking about the top row gap/ spacing?
    Yeah, but the spacing issues were only with the function keys in relation to the main part, and the TKL to the main part
    Do you still have the measurements you used?
    Not on me right now, I might be able to grab them later today, definitely tomorrow

    Any updates on the numbers? :D
    Completely forgot, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 23 April 2015, 17:09:46
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Thu, 23 April 2015, 13:27:59
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 10:24:29

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:35:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:33:11

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:31:46
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1)

    http://builder.swillkb.com/ (http://builder.swillkb.com/)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0)

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    What do you mean by line up? Are you talking about the top row gap/ spacing?
    Yeah, but the spacing issues were only with the function keys in relation to the main part, and the TKL to the main part
    Do you still have the measurements you used?
    Not on me right now, I might be able to grab them later today, definitely tomorrow

    Any updates on the numbers? :D
    Gyazo of what it looks like, and it is 4.76mm where it is off on both areas
    (http://i.gyazo.com/3e30af4fc7192fb8f2c1545e0e2bb4a8.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nightdriver on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:20:46
    the plate on a white / beige filco is still black, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:34:58
    Quote from: nightdriver on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:20:46
    the plate on a white / beige filco is still black, right?
    I'm pretty sure it is yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:43:15
    More
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 23 April 2015, 17:09:46
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Thu, 23 April 2015, 13:27:59
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 10:24:29

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:35:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:33:11

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:31:46
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1)

    http://builder.swillkb.com/ (http://builder.swillkb.com/)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0)

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    What do you mean by line up? Are you talking about the top row gap/ spacing?
    Yeah, but the spacing issues were only with the function keys in relation to the main part, and the TKL to the main part
    Do you still have the measurements you used?
    Not on me right now, I might be able to grab them later today, definitely tomorrow

    Any updates on the numbers? :D
    Gyazo of what it looks like, and it is 4.76mm where it is off on both areas
    Show Image
    (http://i.gyazo.com/3e30af4fc7192fb8f2c1545e0e2bb4a8.png)


    So the offset between the blue and white is 4.76mm? Also I assume the blue is the A.87 plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:44:20
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:43:15
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 23 April 2015, 17:09:46
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Thu, 23 April 2015, 13:27:59
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 10:24:29

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:35:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:33:11

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:31:46
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:29:15

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:50:55
    Quote from: trigun0x2 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 00:33:51
    Where can I get a plate or drawing for a plate for this PCB?
    A87
    http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/S7XYiTb.jpg?1)

    http://builder.swillkb.com/ (http://builder.swillkb.com/)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0)

    Use keyboard layout editor to get the layout for the plate builder, then Big Blue Saw can cut it for you.
    If you are using the layout editor, make sure it actually matches up with the PCB, as I made one for the B87 layout, and when matching up with the one Monstermask made, it didn't line up, so I had to use autocad to line up the plate
    What do you mean by line up? Are you talking about the top row gap/ spacing?
    Yeah, but the spacing issues were only with the function keys in relation to the main part, and the TKL to the main part
    Do you still have the measurements you used?
    Not on me right now, I might be able to grab them later today, definitely tomorrow

    Any updates on the numbers? :D
    Gyazo of what it looks like, and it is 4.76mm where it is off on both areas
    Show Image
    (http://i.gyazo.com/3e30af4fc7192fb8f2c1545e0e2bb4a8.png)


    So the offset between the blue and white is 4.76mm? Also I assume the blue is the A.87 plate.
    B87, but I assume? the plates are the same, and yes, that is where the offset is
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:45:14
    Can you guys please more tag those huge quotes in the future?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:45:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:45:14
    Can you guys please more tag those huge quotes in the future?

    Yeah, sorry
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:48:16
    Is there a place to buy Gaterons on demand or do I have to wait 100 years for Massdrop?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:49:11
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:48:16
    Is there a place to buy Gaterons on demand or do I have to wait 100 years for Massdrop?

    Like the Massdrop GB and the Gateron GB hosted by hwood34 and Shadovved, you get to wait like the rest of us.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:51:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:49:11
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:48:16
    Is there a place to buy Gaterons on demand or do I have to wait 100 years for Massdrop?

    Like the Massdrop GB and the Gateron GB hosted by hwood34 and Shadovved, you get to wait like the rest of us.
    Well then is there a place where I can buy a replicator?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:52:36
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:51:25
    Well then is there a place where I can buy a replicator?

    Now *that's* a ****ing good question. If you find an answer, PM me ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:54:21
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:51:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:49:11
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:48:16
    Is there a place to buy Gaterons on demand or do I have to wait 100 years for Massdrop?

    Like the Massdrop GB and the Gateron GB hosted by hwood34 and Shadovved, you get to wait like the rest of us.
    Well then is there a place where I can buy a replicator?

    Not the one you are looking for, but hey, it's a replicator.

    http://store.makerbot.com/replicator
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:54:21
    Quote from: nightdriver on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:20:46
    the plate on a white / beige filco is still black, right?

    Yep it is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:54:51
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:44:20
    B87, but I assume? the plates are the same, and yes, that is where the offset is

    No this is an A.87 so if the measurements have are for a B.87 they might not work for this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:55:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:52:36
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:51:25
    Well then is there a place where I can buy a replicator?

    Now *that's* a ****ing good question. If you find an answer, PM me ;)
    If I find one I'll replicate it, and then replicate a teleporter and beam the replicated replicator to you.*

    * No guarantees on items replicated by a replicated replicator.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:29:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:49:11
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:48:16
    Is there a place to buy Gaterons on demand or do I have to wait 100 years for Massdrop?

    Like the Massdrop GB and the Gateron GB hosted by hwood34 and Shadovved, you get to wait like the rest of us.

    Thanks to sprit (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.msg1726407#msg1726407), it seems like there is a 1688 site (http://shop1396630507718.1688.com/) where you can buy these. I cannot confirm if the site is legit though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:45:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:29:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:49:11
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 23 April 2015, 19:48:16
    Is there a place to buy Gaterons on demand or do I have to wait 100 years for Massdrop?

    Like the Massdrop GB and the Gateron GB hosted by hwood34 and Shadovved, you get to wait like the rest of us.

    Thanks to sprit (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.msg1726407#msg1726407), it seems like there is a 1688 site (http://shop1396630507718.1688.com/) where you can buy these. I cannot confirm if the site is legit though.
    There was one CONUS vendor that put in a sizeable order, I'm sure you'll hear about it when they officially stock them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:37:52
    Where to I get a PCB for a G81-1138  HAU case, ANSI & winkeyless? Do I have to find a G80 and use this PCB? Am I right that there where new replacement PCBs out there with some new and fancy features?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:42:43
    Quote from: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:37:52
    Where to I get a PCB for a G81-1138  HAU case, ANSI & winkeyless? Do I have to find a G80 and use this PCB? Am I right that there where new replacement PCBs out there with some new and fancy features?
    leeku makes boards for these cases
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:44:09
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:42:43
    Quote from: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:37:52
    Where to I get a PCB for a G81-1138  HAU case, ANSI & winkeyless? Do I have to find a G80 and use this PCB? Am I right that there where new replacement PCBs out there with some new and fancy features?
    leeku makes boards for these cases

    Yup, you can either find a G80 PCB that fits or a Leeku PCB. But the Leeku 3000 PCBs are a bit hard to find.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:46:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:44:09
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:42:43
    Quote from: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:37:52
    Where to I get a PCB for a G81-1138  HAU case, ANSI & winkeyless? Do I have to find a G80 and use this PCB? Am I right that there where new replacement PCBs out there with some new and fancy features?
    leeku makes boards for these cases

    Yup, you can either find a G80 PCB that fits or a Leeku PCB. But the Leeku 3000 PCBs are a bit hard to find.

    Thanks! What is harder to find then? A G80 ANSI PCB or Leeku PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:48:29
    Quote from: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:46:21
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:44:09
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:42:43
    Quote from: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:37:52
    Where to I get a PCB for a G81-1138  HAU case, ANSI & winkeyless? Do I have to find a G80 and use this PCB? Am I right that there where new replacement PCBs out there with some new and fancy features?
    leeku makes boards for these cases

    Yup, you can either find a G80 PCB that fits or a Leeku PCB. But the Leeku 3000 PCBs are a bit hard to find.


    Thanks! What is harder to find then? A G80 ANSI PCB or Leeku PCB?

    I've never hunted for a G80 ANSI PCB but I know I bought the last Leeku 3000 PCB I've seen on the classifieds. And that was sometime last year. Dorkvader wasn't able to find one.

    Edit: I didn't realize that Kin25 was selling Leeku PCBs and plates right now. Apologies.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:16:18
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    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:48:29
    Quote from: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:46:21
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    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:44:09
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:42:43
    Quote from: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:37:52
    Where to I get a PCB for a G81-1138  HAU case, ANSI & winkeyless? Do I have to find a G80 and use this PCB? Am I right that there where new replacement PCBs out there with some new and fancy features?
    leeku makes boards for these cases

    Yup, you can either find a G80 PCB that fits or a Leeku PCB. But the Leeku 3000 PCBs are a bit hard to find.


    Thanks! What is harder to find then? A G80 ANSI PCB or Leeku PCB?

    I've never hunted for a G80 ANSI PCB but I know I bought the last Leeku 3000 PCB I've seen on the classifieds. And that was sometime last year. Dorkvader wasn't able to find one.

    Edit: I didn't realize that Kin25 was selling Leeku PCBs and plates right now. Apologies.

    I very recently ordered a 3000 PCB from kin25 as part of the TX1800 buy. As of 2 weeks ago it was not too late. Might be worth checking with him.

    Edit: I didn't realize you were correcting yourself as I was correcting you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 26 April 2015, 01:28:10
    Quote from: fi0x on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:15:14
    Does anyone know what keyboard this is? All I know is that its a ducky keyboard with white ducky keycaps, but I don't know what the keyboard/keyboard case is.
    (Attachment Link)

    Apparently it is a "Ducky shine 2 special edition white keycaps on black frame".

    http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/121999-sexiest-keyboard-ever/page-2#entry1653291
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 26 April 2015, 14:24:28
    Could someone please school me on alps stabilizers? My next two keyboard projects will be alps and I know nothing about their stabs; plate mount, pcb mount, whatever's out there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Sun, 26 April 2015, 15:03:00
    What kind of resistor do I need to connect an indicator LED to a Teensy?  I tried using the online resistor calculator at ledcalc.com  (http://ledcalc.com).  The required parameters are Supply Voltage, Voltage Drop Across LED, and Desired LED Current.  I'm using these  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0087ZT0SI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)LEDs and the only thing I can find about them is 3-3.2 Volts which I am guessing is that second parameter, the voltage drop.  I didn't find anything on the Teensy website that resembled a supply voltage.  As far as the desired current, the only thing I've found that might be related is "Luminous Intensity : 2000-4000MCD" on the LED specs.  That online calculator mentions that 20mA works for most LEDs.

    I can't find any resources or information about hooking up an indicator light.  Is there an example online somewhere that I can use to see how it should be connected and grounded?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sun, 26 April 2015, 15:10:12
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Sun, 26 April 2015, 14:24:28
    Could someone please school me on alps stabilizers? My next two keyboard projects will be alps and I know nothing about their stabs; plate mount, pcb mount, whatever's out there.

    Alps stabs are historically very confusing but modern Alps sets from Matias use a pretty standard setup. From what I understand they are slightly taller than costar stabs but it is apparently possible to produce a plate which will work with both. Mr. Matias furnished a mockup of such a plate in the vendor forum (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45483.msg1364703.msg#1364703). If you don't want to mess with a custom plate you can feasibly bend your own wire stabs that fit the costar spacing and the Alps cap stab mounts.

    Signature Plastics produces Alps caps with cherry stab mounts. This is simplest if you can manage to get a set of SP Alps caps produced, which is currently proving very difficult.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sun, 26 April 2015, 15:19:46
    Quote from: Rose on Sun, 26 April 2015, 15:03:00
    What kind of resistor do I need to connect an indicator LED to a Teensy?  I tried using the online resistor calculator at ledcalc.com  (http://ledcalc.com).  The required parameters are Supply Voltage, Voltage Drop Across LED, and Desired LED Current.  I'm using these  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0087ZT0SI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)LEDs and the only thing I can find about them is 3-3.2 Volts which I am guessing is that second parameter, the voltage drop.  I didn't find anything on the Teensy website that resembled a supply voltage.  As far as the desired current, the only thing I've found that might be related is "Luminous Intensity : 2000-4000MCD" on the LED specs.  That online calculator mentions that 20mA works for most LEDs.

    I can't find any resources or information about hooking up an indicator light.  Is there an example online somewhere that I can use to see how it should be connected and grounded?

    Supply voltage will be 5V, as that's what comes out of USB ports on a computer.

    Current is dependent on how bright you want the LED to be -- brighter LEDs have more current flowing through them, up to a limit. Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to know for sure how your particular diodes will react to different amounts of current.

    There's a wiring diagram on the led calculator that shows up after you enter all the relevant information, although it uses a battery. You want current to run from one of the digital output pins on your teensy, through the resistor (which can be hooked up in either direction), through the LED (which can only be hooked up in one direction), then to a ground pin on the teensy.

    Take a look at this graphic, it might help (http://www.arduino.cc/en/uploads/Tutorial/ExampleCircuit_bb.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Sun, 26 April 2015, 19:46:26
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 22 April 2015, 23:05:56
    For Stab lube which Tamiya lube should I be using?

    GP-383 flouropolymer grease? the OP-439 antiwear grease? Or something else?


    Also on the off chance that someone knows, where can I get krytox or RO-59 here in Japan?


    I use CERA GREASE HG but I don't know whether this is better or not.
    If you are in Japan SHIMANO and other bike companies may be another big sources of lub. I think they have various chemicals for cycles. I had used a their top brand DURA ACE cup grease for my stabs :D

    This company is supplier of RO-59 in Japan and you can buy 260ml small bottle of it from them.
    http://www.tafco.co.jp/
    http://www.tafco.co.jp/contact_order.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Sun, 26 April 2015, 20:19:07
    Quote from: hasu on Sun, 26 April 2015, 19:46:26
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 22 April 2015, 23:05:56
    For Stab lube which Tamiya lube should I be using?

    GP-383 flouropolymer grease? the OP-439 antiwear grease? Or something else?


    Also on the off chance that someone knows, where can I get krytox or RO-59 here in Japan?


    I use CERA GREASE HG but I don't know whether this is better or not.
    If you are in Japan SHIMANO and other bike companies may be another big sources of lub. I think they have various chemicals for cycles. I had used a their top brand DURA ACE cup grease for my stabs :D

    This company is supplier of RO-59 in Japan and you can buy 260ml small bottle of it from them.
    http://www.tafco.co.jp/
    http://www.tafco.co.jp/contact_order.html
    Thanks hasu!
    I think I'll use the Tamiya lube for the stabs since I have a hobby shop near by that has a good selection of greases
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 27 April 2015, 05:58:19
    What kind of caps does a G81-1800HAG use, and how much would be a decent price?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Mon, 27 April 2015, 06:26:57
    HAG is usually UK ISO.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers

    Not sure of the price, probably better to try the price check thread...I'm not sure how the OP feels about price checks in here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: madhias on Mon, 27 April 2015, 07:43:27
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:16:18
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:48:29
    Quote from: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:46:21
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    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:44:09
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:42:43
    Quote from: madhias on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:37:52
    Where to I get a PCB for a G81-1138  HAU case, ANSI & winkeyless? Do I have to find a G80 and use this PCB? Am I right that there where new replacement PCBs out there with some new and fancy features?
    leeku makes boards for these cases

    Yup, you can either find a G80 PCB that fits or a Leeku PCB. But the Leeku 3000 PCBs are a bit hard to find.


    Thanks! What is harder to find then? A G80 ANSI PCB or Leeku PCB?

    I've never hunted for a G80 ANSI PCB but I know I bought the last Leeku 3000 PCB I've seen on the classifieds. And that was sometime last year. Dorkvader wasn't able to find one.

    Edit: I didn't realize that Kin25 was selling Leeku PCBs and plates right now. Apologies.

    I very recently ordered a 3000 PCB from kin25 as part of the TX1800 buy. As of 2 weeks ago it was not too late. Might be worth checking with him.

    Edit: I didn't realize you were correcting yourself as I was correcting you!

    Thanks Captain and njbair! I am part of the TX1800 group buy and dropped kin25 a mail right now. I also asked if it is possible to buy 3, if someone needs another PCB!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 April 2015, 07:54:23
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 27 April 2015, 05:58:19
    What kind of caps does a G81-1800HAG use, and how much would be a decent price?

    Quote from: Hzza on Mon, 27 April 2015, 06:26:57
    HAG is usually UK ISO.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers

    Not sure of the price, probably better to try the price check thread...I'm not sure how the OP feels about price checks in here.

    Should be double shots because of the H (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) too. And please check prices in the price check thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 27 April 2015, 07:58:47

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 April 2015, 07:54:23
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 27 April 2015, 05:58:19
    What kind of caps does a G81-1800HAG use, and how much would be a decent price?

    Quote from: Hzza on Mon, 27 April 2015, 06:26:57
    HAG is usually UK ISO.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers

    Not sure of the price, probably better to try the price check thread...I'm not sure how the OP feels about price checks in here.

    Should be double shots because of the H (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps) too. And please check prices in the price check thread.
    Okay thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Mon, 27 April 2015, 08:19:36
    My HHKB works fine when plugged in to my macbook, but both PCs in the house don't seem to respond to it at all, though they used to. Any ideas? (The dip switches definitely aren't in mac mode, if that would make any difference)

    Also, does anyone know how to stop numlock on my RF87U activating when I log out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 27 April 2015, 08:25:39
    Quote from: Bomble on Mon, 27 April 2015, 08:19:36
    My HHKB works fine when plugged in to my macbook, but both PCs in the house don't seem to respond to it at all, though they used to. Any ideas? (The dip switches definitely aren't in mac mode, if that would make any difference)

    Also, does anyone know how to stop numlock on my RF87U activating when I log out?

    Num Lock state on log out/shut down is usually a BIOS setting from my experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Mon, 27 April 2015, 08:29:57
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 27 April 2015, 08:25:39
    Quote from: Bomble on Mon, 27 April 2015, 08:19:36

    Also, does anyone know how to stop numlock on my RF87U activating when I log out?

    Num Lock state on log out/shut down is usually a BIOS setting from my experience.

    Cheers, I'll look in to that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 27 April 2015, 18:43:46
    Hello (CaptainBadAss)! ;D
    I'm sitting in front of a bunch of disassembled MX switches and I need to know:
    question #1 "slider" and "stem" mean the same thing, right?
    question #2 in MX blues there is a little piece of white plastic attached to the slider, how is this lpiece called?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 27 April 2015, 20:34:53
    Quote from: Eszett on Mon, 27 April 2015, 18:43:46
    Hello (CaptainBadAss)! ;D
    I'm sitting in front of a bunch of disassembled MX switches and I need to know:
    question #1 "slider" and "stem" mean the same thing, right?
    question #2 in MX blues there is a little piece of white plastic attached to the slider, how is this lpiece called?

    Slider normally refers to the stem of a topre switch but yes stems and sliders are the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:15:52
    Thanks Joey! And the other thing, this little plastic piece, how is that called?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:20:28
    What are the little nubbins on MX blue and green stems? They are not there on the other colors (see brown in pic):

    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:22:20
    Quote from: Eszett on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:15:52
    Thanks Joey! And the other thing, this little plastic piece, how is that called?
    From the DT wiki : "Unlike most other Cherry MX switches, the plunger consists of not one, but two parts: a blue plunger (that is connected to the key) and a white inner slider (which opens/closes the circuit)."
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:26:39
    @hwood34 I'm not sure if all people understand at once what I mean when I say "white inner slider". However, if there's no better name for it, so be it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:48:14
    Quote from: Eszett on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:26:39
    @hwood34 I'm not sure if all people understand at once what I mean when I say "white inner slider". However, if there's no better name for it, so be it.
    Yeah, sometimes there really isn't a great word for it, though I'm sure if you mention "white slider" in the context of clicky switches, people will know what you're talking about. Also, the quote feature is helpful for people you're talking to, especially if they have tapatalk and get notified when it happens. Also helps for everyone to be able to quickly read the conversation at hand in one place
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 April 2015, 22:51:48
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:48:14
    Quote from: Eszett on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:26:39
    @hwood34 I'm not sure if all people understand at once what I mean when I say "white inner slider". However, if there's no better name for it, so be it.
    Yeah, sometimes there really isn't a great word for it, though I'm sure if you mention "white slider" in the context of clicky switches, people will know what you're talking about. Also, the quote feature is helpful for people you're talking to, especially if they have tapatalk and get notified when it happens. Also helps for everyone to be able to quickly read the conversation at hand in one place

    In the context you have there, white slide works just fine. Same thing with stem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:38:22
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:20:28
    What are the little nubbins on MX blue and green stems? They are not there on the other colors (see brown in pic):

    (Attachment Link)

    It's an indicator that it is a clicky switch.  It also appears on Cherry MX White switches.

    I don't have a clicky gray for reference so I'm not sure if it has it too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:44:57
    how's everybody?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:51:49
    Quote from: infiniti on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:38:22
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:20:28
    What are the little nubbins on MX blue and green stems? They are not there on the other colors (see brown in pic):

    (Attachment Link)

    It's an indicator that it is a clicky switch.  It also appears on Cherry MX White switches.

    I don't have a clicky gray for reference so I'm not sure if it has it too.
    yup, same nubs

    (http://i.imgur.com/VdtnIUB.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 28 April 2015, 00:47:46
    Quote from: infiniti on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:38:22
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:20:28
    What are the little nubbins on MX blue and green stems? They are not there on the other colors (see brown in pic):

    (Attachment Link)

    It's an indicator that it is a clicky switch.  It also appears on Cherry MX White switches.

    I don't have a clicky gray for reference so I'm not sure if it has it too.
    Is it really just an indicator? Like it doesn't perform some function in tandem with the white slider or something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: naasfu on Tue, 28 April 2015, 02:24:31
    I just got an ultrasonic cleaner that I want to use to clean some vintage blacks.  Can I just open up the switches and throw everything in, including the springs and metal contacts?  What about drying them?  Just lay them out, or is it ok to put them in the dryer (inside a pillow case, no heat)?

    btw, I love this ultrasonic cleaner.  I've been throwing everything I can think of into it.  Watches, electric toothbrush heads, keycaps, etc etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 April 2015, 05:25:39
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:44:57
    how's everybody?
    Nice to see you around again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: absyrd on Tue, 28 April 2015, 05:28:41
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:44:57
    how's everybody?

    Not a simple question. Nor does it have a simple answer. Jerkface.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 April 2015, 06:42:30
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 28 April 2015, 00:47:46
    Quote from: infiniti on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:38:22
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 27 April 2015, 21:20:28
    What are the little nubbins on MX blue and green stems? They are not there on the other colors (see brown in pic):

    (Attachment Link)

    It's an indicator that it is a clicky switch.  It also appears on Cherry MX White switches.

    I don't have a clicky gray for reference so I'm not sure if it has it too.
    Is it really just an indicator? Like it doesn't perform some function in tandem with the white slider or something?
    I think it's just an indicator and not functional.
    Quote from: naasfu on Tue, 28 April 2015, 02:24:31
    I just got an ultrasonic cleaner that I want to use to clean some vintage blacks.  Can I just open up the switches and throw everything in, including the springs and metal contacts?  What about drying them?  Just lay them out, or is it ok to put them in the dryer (inside a pillow case, no heat)?

    btw, I love this ultrasonic cleaner.  I've been throwing everything I can think of into it.  Watches, electric toothbrush heads, keycaps, etc etc.
    Yup I think you can just lay the switches out and air dry. I've got an ultrasonic cleaner too but I bought it with fountain pen cleaning in mind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Tue, 28 April 2015, 18:55:29
    Quote from: absyrd on Tue, 28 April 2015, 05:28:41
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:44:57
    how's everybody?

    Not a simple question. Nor does it have a simple answer. Jerkface.


    :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 28 April 2015, 19:20:35
    Quote from: demik on Tue, 28 April 2015, 18:55:29
    Quote from: absyrd on Tue, 28 April 2015, 05:28:41
    Quote from: demik on Mon, 27 April 2015, 23:44:57
    how's everybody?

    Not a simple question. Nor does it have a simple answer. Jerkface.


    :(

    (https://33.media.tumblr.com/0b68529ee187f5cd4db44efaf9785466/tumblr_na8od8zykQ1tjueuwo1_400.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 29 April 2015, 10:49:26
    So I've heard of these things before on here and I'm under the impression they're rubber domes, but can anyone confirm?
    More
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjEyWDgxNg==/z/9D4AAOSwrklVPsUl/$_20.JPG)

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 April 2015, 12:00:07
    Quote from: Ludovician on Wed, 29 April 2015, 10:49:26
    So I've heard of these things before on here and I'm under the impression they're rubber domes, but can anyone confirm?

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjEyWDgxNg==/z/9D4AAOSwrklVPsUl/$_20.JPG)

    Thanks.

    I'm pretty sure that's rubber dome too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Thu, 30 April 2015, 13:49:19
    If I install an LED in an Cherry MX switch will there be any way to open/lubricate the switch without desoldering the LED?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:08:52
    Quote from: Rose on Thu, 30 April 2015, 13:49:19
    If I install an LED in an Cherry MX switch will there be any way to open/lubricate the switch without desoldering the LED?

    No you'll have to desolder it to properly lube it. Some people say you can flood the chamber with lube but that will affect how the switch feels.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:13:33
    You can clip the front of the top switch housing so that you can open the switch without desoldering the LED but when I did it there was quite a lot of work involved to get the fit right and it was really hard to get the switch top back in place without damaging the LED.

    I'm pretty sure there's a thread somewhere, I'll dig it up once the kids are asleep.

    edit - That was easier than I thought it would be...

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65287.0#quickreply

    That's the thread, the video shows the details.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:15:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:08:52
    Quote from: Rose on Thu, 30 April 2015, 13:49:19
    If I install an LED in an Cherry MX switch will there be any way to open/lubricate the switch without desoldering the LED?

    No you'll have to desolder it to properly lube it. Some people say you can flood the chamber with lube but that will affect how the switch feels.
    If you use SIP sockets you could right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:26:52
    Quote from: KnivesM on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:15:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:08:52
    Quote from: Rose on Thu, 30 April 2015, 13:49:19
    If I install an LED in an Cherry MX switch will there be any way to open/lubricate the switch without desoldering the LED?

    No you'll have to desolder it to properly lube it. Some people say you can flood the chamber with lube but that will affect how the switch feels.
    If you use SIP sockets you could right?

    Well you'd have to yank the LED out first but yeah if you had SIP sockets and a PCB mount or plate with the switch opening cutouts in it, you could do it.

    Quote from: Hzza on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:13:33
    You can clip the front of the top switch housing so that you can open the switch without desoldering the LED but when I did it there was quite a lot of work involved to get the fit right and it was really hard to get the switch top back in place without damaging the LED.

    I'm pretty sure there's a thread somewhere, I'll dig it up once the kids are asleep.

    edit - That was easier than I thought it would be...

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65287.0#quickreply

    That's the thread, the video shows the details.

    I forgot about that! But it's more of a PITA than the return imo.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:46:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 April 2015, 14:26:52
    I forgot about that! But it's more of a PITA than the return imo.
    Oh, no doubt, its a total PITA but it's an option if you're opening the switches anyway and don't have SIP switches kicking around...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 01 May 2015, 01:25:22
    Anyone know where I can buy the cases that HolyOOPS caps come in? They look sick but I don't want to buy a cap just for the metal shell.

    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/holyoops-aluminum-keycaps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 01 May 2015, 11:11:26
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 01 May 2015, 01:25:22
    Anyone know where I can buy the cases that HolyOOPS caps come in? They look sick but I don't want to buy a cap just for the metal shell.

    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/holyoops-aluminum-keycaps

    There is loads of round metal containers available, but finding the exact one might be difficult.
    Do you know for sure if the box is metal Joey? It kinda looks like metal but doesn't have a folded-over edge on the lid like loads of them do for example...

    Edit: Realized it has small dents in the side of the lid, (looks like friction fit) so it should be metal I guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:49:25
    [Xpost from the living soldering thread. But seeing as how I believe more people read here I wanted perspective from this thread as well.]

    Is this the solder most people are recommending to pick up? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/231408574698?afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)

    I am planning on doing a switch swap out for right now. I have an Edsyn 951sxe and Soldapullt coming in. I have a multimeter. Looking at the list on the front page of the living soldering thread, I'm missing:

    * Solder spool holder
    * Magnifying lamp/Jewler's visor
    * Smoke Absorber
    * Separate Flux
    * Helping Hands
    * Heat gun

    Do I NEED any of these things? I feel like most of these are quality of life enhancements. Not sure about the smoke absorber...

    Is there something else you all would highly recommend I get (besides practice) before I start the project? I spent an entire summer soldering at an internship in high school, but that was almost 15 years ago I don't remember all the ins and outs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:51:18
    Quote from: greath on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:49:25
    1) Is this the solder most people are recommending to pick up? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/231408574698?afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)

    2) I am planning on doing a switch swap out for right now. I have an Edsyn 951sxe and Soldapullt coming in. I have a multimeter. Looking at the list on the front page of the living soldering thread, I'm missing:

    * Solder spool holder
    * Magnifying lamp/Jewler's visor
    * Smoke Absorber
    * Separate Flux
    * Helping Hands
    * Heat gun

    Do I NEED any of these things? I feel like most of these are quality of life enhancements. Not sure about the smoke absorber...

    3) Is there something else you all would highly recommend I get (besides practice) before I start the project? I spent an entire summer soldering at an internship in high school, but that was almost 15 years ago I don't remember all the ins and outs.

    1) Yes
    2) No you don't *need* any of those. An iron, solder, and desoldering tool is the bare minimum.
    3) Practice ;). It's not too hard honestly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 01 May 2015, 17:33:28
    What tips should I get to properly solder with my FX888D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 00:34:36
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 01 May 2015, 17:33:28
    What tips should I get to properly solder with my FX888D

    You should get:

    + 1.2mm chissel for soldering led and keyboard switch, it could also be used for soldering small wire (22-30awg)
    + 2.4-3.2 mm chissel tip for soldering very thick wire (less than 10awg) or big component like large capacitor
    + 5.2mm chissel tip for soldering really big things
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 02 May 2015, 06:59:38
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 00:34:36
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 01 May 2015, 17:33:28
    What tips should I get to properly solder with my FX888D

    You should get:

    + 1.2mm chissel for soldering led and keyboard switch, it could also be used for soldering small wire (22-30awg)
    + 2.4-3.2 mm chissel tip for soldering very thick wire (less than 10awg) or big component like large capacitor
    + 5.2mm chissel tip for soldering really big things
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:11:14
    What keycap is this? Is still available somewhere? A similar little devil would be good enough.

    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7265/7686929864_c89fcb64ca_z.jpg)

    It's a keycap from 2012, can't find any place that still sells it though

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30453.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:07:57
    Quote from: Giorgio on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:11:14
    What keycap is this? Is still available somewhere? A similar little devil would be good enough.

    Show Image
    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7265/7686929864_c89fcb64ca_z.jpg)


    It's a keycap from 2012, can't find any place that still sells it though

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30453.0

    From the thread you linked, it looks like it's the KeyboardHell logo and they did a limited 100 key run for their store. I bet they'd have some for sale there since it's their logo. Other than that? I don't know. Never seen them before. Maybe talk to the KeyboardHell guys on Facebook or another forum. Or maybe try getting in touch with Hazeluff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: absyrd on Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:13:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:07:57
    Quote from: Giorgio on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:11:14
    What keycap is this? Is still available somewhere? A similar little devil would be good enough.

    Show Image
    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7265/7686929864_c89fcb64ca_z.jpg)


    It's a keycap from 2012, can't find any place that still sells it though

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30453.0

    From the thread you linked, it looks like it's the KeyboardHell logo and they did a limited 100 key run for their store. I bet they'd have some for sale there since it's their logo. Other than that? I don't know. Never seen them before. Maybe talk to the KeyboardHell guys on Facebook or another forum. Or maybe try getting in touch with Hazeluff.

    Were these made by Holyoops w/ feng maybe? Look like his work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:20:13
    Quote from: absyrd on Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:13:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:07:57
    Quote from: Giorgio on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:11:14
    What keycap is this? Is still available somewhere? A similar little devil would be good enough.

    Show Image
    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7265/7686929864_c89fcb64ca_z.jpg)


    It's a keycap from 2012, can't find any place that still sells it though

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30453.0

    From the thread you linked, it looks like it's the KeyboardHell logo and they did a limited 100 key run for their store. I bet they'd have some for sale there since it's their logo. Other than that? I don't know. Never seen them before. Maybe talk to the KeyboardHell guys on Facebook or another forum. Or maybe try getting in touch with Hazeluff.

    Were these made by Holyoops w/ feng maybe? Look like his work.

    I had the same gut reaction but I honestly don't know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 03 May 2015, 05:03:04
     it is available for  $100 (keyboard hell facebook). We'll see if the meant hkd or USD... :-)

    Maybe I'll try do design something in autocad, for example using the BSD Unix logo, and then print it in 3d or have it cnc'd.


    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:07:57
    Quote from: Giorgio on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:11:14
    What keycap is this? Is still available somewhere? A similar little devil would be good enough.

    Show Image
    (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7265/7686929864_c89fcb64ca_z.jpg)


    It's a keycap from 2012, can't find any place that still sells it though

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30453.0

    From the thread you linked, it looks like it's the KeyboardHell logo and they did a limited 100 key run for their store. I bet they'd have some for sale there since it's their logo. Other than that? I don't know. Never seen them before. Maybe talk to the KeyboardHell guys on Facebook or another forum. Or maybe try getting in touch with Hazeluff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Mon, 04 May 2015, 18:13:54
    What are the bottoming out spring weights for:

    1) Cherry MX Clear
    2) Cherry MX Vintage Black
    3) Cherry MX Modern Black

    Tried to find a detailed table for to compare to custom springs, but most places only list the Cherry actuation weight rather than the bottoming out weight.

    ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 04 May 2015, 21:05:58
    Quote from: Karura on Mon, 04 May 2015, 18:13:54
    What are the bottoming out spring weights for:

    1) Cherry MX Clear
    2) Cherry MX Vintage Black
    3) Cherry MX Modern Black

    Tried to find a detailed table for to compare to custom springs, but most places only list the Cherry actuation weight rather than the bottoming out weight.

    ?

    Not sure on exact numbers but reds blues and browns will have the same bottom out force, vintage and modern blacks used the same springs but vintage blacks might be a touch lighter due to use over the years, and clears are a touch heavier than blacks at bottom out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 May 2015, 22:05:05
    Quote from: Karura on Mon, 04 May 2015, 18:13:54
    What are the bottoming out spring weights for:

    1) Cherry MX Clear
    2) Cherry MX Vintage Black
    3) Cherry MX Modern Black

    Tried to find a detailed table for to compare to custom springs, but most places only list the Cherry actuation weight rather than the bottoming out weight.

    ?

    This is the closest thing I know of with what you're looking for. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0) I'm personally still not convinced about Vintage Blacks being different because I've never had the chance to try mint/NIB vintage blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:13:08
    Has anyone lubed an ML and do they suck less if you do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:14:15
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:13:08
    Has anyone lubed an ML and do they suck less if you do?

    Yes and yes. Still has issues with off-strike hits though. There's a few people who've tried it so you can do a search and find some info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keyboardMaster on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:26:28
    Is the cherry mx clear switch the same as cherry grey switch (the non clicky one...)?

    It seems so...

    Am I good if I replace the very hard spring with something equivalent to the cherry reds 45grams spring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:30:00
    Quote from: keyboardMaster on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:26:28
    1) Is the cherry mx clear switch the same as cherry grey switch (the non clicky one...)?

    2) Am I good if I replace the very hard spring with something equivalent to the cherry reds 45grams spring?

    1) No, the tactile grey MX switch (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Tactile_Grey) has a heavier spring versus the MX clear (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Clear)

    2) It'll be the same as an ergo clear (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear). The stems on the Tactile Grey and Clears are the same. I think it's just the spring that's different. I don't like ergo-clears though. I've found they stick. I really prefer stock Clears or MX Black spring + MX Clear stem. But 62g, 55g, and 65g are some popular aftermarket springs. I think techkeys.us has them in stock right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:47:09
    How2order LZ kbd?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:48:53
    Quote from: Karura on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:47:09
    How2order LZ kbd?

    I'm honestly not sure anymore. Used to have GBs here. I think you can try emailing them or going to the LZ site?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:11:53
    The reason why I don't like clears is that the stem is too big, and it is very difficult to remove keycaps, to the point that you risk making the switch literally explode.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:30:00
    Quote from: keyboardMaster on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:26:28
    1) Is the cherry mx clear switch the same as cherry grey switch (the non clicky one...)?

    2) Am I good if I replace the very hard spring with something equivalent to the cherry reds 45grams spring?

    1) No, the tactile grey MX switch (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Tactile_Grey) has a heavier spring versus the MX clear (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Clear)

    2) It'll be the same as an ergo clear (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear). The stems on the Tactile Grey and Clears are the same. I think it's just the spring that's different. I don't like ergo-clears though. I've found they stick. I really prefer stock Clears or MX Black spring + MX Clear stem. But 62g, 55g, and 65g are some popular aftermarket springs. I think techkeys.us has them in stock right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:13:30
    Quote from: Giorgio on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:11:53
    The reason why I don't like clears is that the stem is too big, and it is very difficult to remove keycaps, to the point that you risk making the switch literally explode.

    Pretty sure the worst you can do is rip the top half off. There won't be any explosions :)). I don't have any problems with removing my caps on my 1800 with clears.

    /me shrugs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:19:14
    Quote from: Giorgio on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:11:53
    The reason why I don't like clears is that the stem is too big, and it is very difficult to remove keycaps, to the point that you risk making the switch literally explode.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:30:00
    Quote from: keyboardMaster on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:26:28
    1) Is the cherry mx clear switch the same as cherry grey switch (the non clicky one...)?

    2) Am I good if I replace the very hard spring with something equivalent to the cherry reds 45grams spring?

    1) No, the tactile grey MX switch (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Tactile_Grey) has a heavier spring versus the MX clear (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Clear)

    2) It'll be the same as an ergo clear (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear). The stems on the Tactile Grey and Clears are the same. I think it's just the spring that's different. I don't like ergo-clears though. I've found they stick. I really prefer stock Clears or MX Black spring + MX Clear stem. But 62g, 55g, and 65g are some popular aftermarket springs. I think techkeys.us has them in stock right now.

    This is the reason you want to use a tactile grey stem? You will have the exact same issue, since the stems are physically identical but for the color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:28:03
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:19:14
    Quote from: Giorgio on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:11:53
    The reason why I don't like clears is that the stem is too big, and it is very difficult to remove keycaps, to the point that you risk making the switch literally explode.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:30:00
    Quote from: keyboardMaster on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:26:28
    1) Is the cherry mx clear switch the same as cherry grey switch (the non clicky one...)?

    2) Am I good if I replace the very hard spring with something equivalent to the cherry reds 45grams spring?

    1) No, the tactile grey MX switch (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Tactile_Grey) has a heavier spring versus the MX clear (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Clear)

    2) It'll be the same as an ergo clear (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Ergo_Clear). The stems on the Tactile Grey and Clears are the same. I think it's just the spring that's different. I don't like ergo-clears though. I've found they stick. I really prefer stock Clears or MX Black spring + MX Clear stem. But 62g, 55g, and 65g are some popular aftermarket springs. I think techkeys.us has them in stock right now.

    This is the reason you want to use a tactile grey stem? You will have the exact same issue, since the stems are physically identical but for the color.

    Clear stems are definitely tighter than all the others, as a rule. I think maybe the pigment helps shrink the plastic a little bit or something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:29:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:13:30
    Quote from: Giorgio on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:11:53
    The reason why I don't like clears is that the stem is too big, and it is very difficult to remove keycaps, to the point that you risk making the switch literally explode.

    Pretty sure the worst you can do is rip the top half off. There won't be any explosions :)). I don't have any problems with removing my caps on my 1800 with clears.

    /me shrugs

    Some people have posted photos of the stem ripped out and the top half still in place.  Either way though (just stem or stem + switch top), on a plated board, that sucks.  However, I've never had this issue and I'm not led to believe that it is terribly common (lacking proper data).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nightdriver on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:14:50
    i'm honestly avoiding clears for that reason.  could they be using a different type of plastic for the clear stems, maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:42:36
    Whatever the reason is, I ripped out the stem from the top of the switch... Luckily it was just a switch tester.
    Greys seem less tight. I doubt that a caliber could measure such small fractions. I'll try.

    From what I remember, normally the cross section of the stem isn't perfectly symmetrical in thickness, but it seems to be symmetrical in clears.


    Quote from: nightdriver on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:14:50
    i'm honestly avoiding clears for that reason.  could they be using a different type of plastic for the clear stems, maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:47:07
    Quote from: nightdriver on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:14:50
    i'm honestly avoiding clears for that reason.  could they be using a different type of plastic for the clear stems, maybe?

    Quote from: Giorgio on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:42:36
    Whatever the reason is, I ripped out the stem from the top of the switch... Luckily it was just a switch tester.
    Greys seem less tight. I doubt that a caliber could measure such small fractions. I'll try.

    From what I remember, normally the cross section of the stem isn't perfectly symmetrical in thickness, but it seems to be symmetrical in clears.


    Quote from: nightdriver on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:14:50
    i'm honestly avoiding clears for that reason.  could they be using a different type of plastic for the clear stems, maybe?

    I think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. Just need to be a little more careful when removing caps with clears. Avoiding them completely and accusations of explosions are a bit much lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 06 May 2015, 20:03:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:47:07
    Quote from: nightdriver on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:14:50
    i'm honestly avoiding clears for that reason.  could they be using a different type of plastic for the clear stems, maybe?

    Quote from: Giorgio on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:42:36
    Whatever the reason is, I ripped out the stem from the top of the switch... Luckily it was just a switch tester.
    Greys seem less tight. I doubt that a caliber could measure such small fractions. I'll try.

    From what I remember, normally the cross section of the stem isn't perfectly symmetrical in thickness, but it seems to be symmetrical in clears.


    Quote from: nightdriver on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:14:50
    i'm honestly avoiding clears for that reason.  could they be using a different type of plastic for the clear stems, maybe?

    I think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. Just need to be a little more careful when removing caps with clears. Avoiding them completely and accusations of explosions are a bit much lol.
    And even if you are scared, just use a Qtip, toothpick, or tweezers to hold the stem down while you pull off a cap. I honestly have never had this issue, even when I put on my Nubb heart which was a tight stem to begin with. And also people need to remember to wiggle, and not pull straight up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:20:09
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Wed, 06 May 2015, 20:03:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:47:07
    Quote from: nightdriver on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:14:50
    i'm honestly avoiding clears for that reason.  could they be using a different type of plastic for the clear stems, maybe?

    Quote from: Giorgio on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:42:36
    Whatever the reason is, I ripped out the stem from the top of the switch... Luckily it was just a switch tester.
    Greys seem less tight. I doubt that a caliber could measure such small fractions. I'll try.

    From what I remember, normally the cross section of the stem isn't perfectly symmetrical in thickness, but it seems to be symmetrical in clears.


    Quote from: nightdriver on Wed, 06 May 2015, 19:14:50
    i'm honestly avoiding clears for that reason.  could they be using a different type of plastic for the clear stems, maybe?

    I think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. Just need to be a little more careful when removing caps with clears. Avoiding them completely and accusations of explosions are a bit much lol.
    And even if you are scared, just use a Qtip, toothpick, or tweezers to hold the stem down while you pull off a cap. I honestly have never had this issue, even when I put on my Nubb heart which was a tight stem to begin with. And also people need to remember to wiggle, and not pull straight up.

    I vote for the more careful method as well.  The other night I was placing some switches into a wyse plate and moving some Toxic caps around.  No PCB, and those plates were made with a fairly loose toleranced stamping method.  Switches had clear stems, not one switch pulled from the plate.  Now DSA caps with clear stems is a different ball game.  But SP has said that DSA caps intentionally for tighter for commercial uses iirc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheGreatAntlers on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:31:56
    Did I get knockoff cherry switches on my KBP v60? All the LED switches I see have the logo on the bottom and the sight on the top, not vice versa.

    (http://i.imgur.com/qEL2KwN.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:35:24
    Quote from: TheGreatAntlers on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:31:56
    Did I get knockoff cherry switches on my KBP v60? All the LED switches I see have the logo on the bottom and the sight on the top, not vice versa.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/qEL2KwN.jpg)


    No they're genuine cherry, some boards have the led on the top and some have it on the bottom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:39:29
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:35:24
    Quote from: TheGreatAntlers on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:31:56
    Did I get knockoff cherry switches on my KBP v60? All the LED switches I see have the logo on the bottom and the sight on the top, not vice versa.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/qEL2KwN.jpg)


    No they're genuine cherry, some boards have the led on the top and some have it on the bottom.
    Yea some people prefer to have the legends illuminated differently
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheGreatAntlers on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:48:25
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:39:29
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:35:24
    Quote from: TheGreatAntlers on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:31:56
    Did I get knockoff cherry switches on my KBP v60? All the LED switches I see have the logo on the bottom and the sight on the top, not vice versa.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/qEL2KwN.jpg)


    Cool, thanks guys

    No they're genuine cherry, some boards have the led on the top and some have it on the bottom.
    Yea some people prefer to have the legends illuminated differently
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 01:32:41
    Where can I find an overview / introduction on Gateron switches, in regard to 1) "How do they compare to Cherry MX?" and 2) "Which Gateron switch resembles which Cherry MX?"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 07 May 2015, 01:37:23
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 01:32:41
    Where can I find an overview / introduction on Gateron switches, in regard to 1) "How do they compare to Cherry MX?" and 2) "Which Gateron switch resembles which Cherry MX?"
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gateron+comparison+to+cherry+mx

    or copy this in the url of your browser :
    site:geekhack.org gateron review
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 02:45:31
    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 May 2015, 07:58:59
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 07 May 2015, 01:37:23
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 01:32:41
    Where can I find an overview / introduction on Gateron switches, in regard to 1) "How do they compare to Cherry MX?" and 2) "Which Gateron switch resembles which Cherry MX?"
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gateron+comparison+to+cherry+mx

    or copy this in the url of your browser :
    site:geekhack.org gateron review

    For a slightly more helpful answer, I think my review has a lot of helpful links (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wilba on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:28:46
    What is this keyboard, and what switches does it use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:38:08
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:59:05
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:38:08
    Quote from: Wilba on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:28:46
    What is this keyboard, and what switches does it use?

    That looks like a rubber dome keyboard. The design of it, though, is reminiscent of an IBM Model M buckling spring keyboard. In specific, the black color with the white on black keys can be found on a black IBM Model M13.

    Might be that buckling sleeve rubber dome design. But I don't think I've seen a BS board with an enter and bottom row like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 07 May 2015, 11:01:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:59:05
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:38:08
    Quote from: Wilba on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:28:46
    What is this keyboard, and what switches does it use?

    That looks like a rubber dome keyboard. The design of it, though, is reminiscent of an IBM Model M buckling spring keyboard. In specific, the black color with the white on black keys can be found on a black IBM Model M13.

    Might be that buckling sleeve rubber dome design. But I don't think I've seen a BS board with an enter and bottom row like that.

    I almost guarantee it's a Keytronic similar to this one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823131060&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Keyboards-_-N82E16823131060&gclid=CLz0uYWAsMUCFVKDfgodnQQATQ&gclsrc=aw.ds).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nightdriver on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:53:09
    Quote from: Wilba on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:28:46
    What is this keyboard, and what switches does it use?

    that actually looks like the Das Keyboard 1.0 except with printed keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:49:57
    Quote from: nightdriver on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:53:09
    Quote from: Wilba on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:28:46
    What is this keyboard, and what switches does it use?

    that actually looks like the Das Keyboard 1.0 except with printed keycaps.

    First gen Das Keyboard was a Keytronic  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:01:55
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:49:57
    Quote from: nightdriver on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:53:09
    Quote from: Wilba on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:28:46
    What is this keyboard, and what switches does it use?

    that actually looks like the Das Keyboard 1.0 except with printed keycaps.

    First gen Das Keyboard was a Keytronic  ;)

    Some supporting links for what nubbinator is saying:

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Key_Tronic_E03600_family#Das_Keyboard
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=6652.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:25:15
    @Captain You wrote a nice review about Gateron blacks!

    Another question: Is there a way (a mod) to reduce hysteresis in Cherry MX blues or Gateron blues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:26:02
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:25:15
    Another question: Is there a way to mod hysteresis. I mean to get rid of or at least reduce the hysteresis in Cherry MX blues or Gateron blues?

    Yes, the solution is to use another switch :)). Hysteresis is built into the switch AFAIK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:27:12
    Oh, come on, there must be a way to alter the switch itself :-(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:29:56
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:27:12
    Oh, come on, there must be a way to alter the switch itself :-(
    Theres a 2 part stem and I believe the hysteresis comes from the two parts interacting. So if you broke off one of the parts, the stem that remains would be blue but perform like a black or red. Hence, using another switch. You could also look into jailhouse blues but  fairly sure those have the same issue. And it doesn't go away with lube. So yes, use another switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:58:18
    Alright, thanks Captain! I found a similar question to mine, here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54863.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nightdriver on Thu, 07 May 2015, 20:10:04
    Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:49:57
    Quote from: nightdriver on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:53:09
    Quote from: Wilba on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:28:46
    What is this keyboard, and what switches does it use?

    that actually looks like the Das Keyboard 1.0 except with printed keycaps.

    First gen Das Keyboard was a Keytronic  ;)

    (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/033/knowing.jpg)

    it's fairly nice for a rubber dome keyboard but... yeah.  it's a rubber dome keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 07 May 2015, 21:30:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:29:56
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:27:12
    Oh, come on, there must be a way to alter the switch itself :-(
    Theres a 2 part stem and I believe the hysteresis comes from the two parts interacting. So if you broke off one of the parts, the stem that remains would be blue but perform like a black or red. Hence, using another switch. You could also look into jailhouse blues but  fairly sure those have the same issue. And it doesn't go away with lube. So yes, use another switch.

    If my understanding of the jailhouse mod, and the function of hyssteresis is correct.  Then the jailhouse mod should get rid of it because the mod locks the sliding part into a fixed position.  The sliding interaction between the two stem parts is what causes it, and the same holds true for all of MX clicky switches. 

    That being said, after the jailhouse mod, you no longer have clicky switches, but somethingmore like an ergo clear with the tactile bump higher in the stroke, similar in feel to tactile alps, but with having 4mm of travel vs the ~3.5mm of alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 22:44:24
    I see, I see. The "jailhouse mod" fastens the white slider, that is, prevents the white slider from moving up and down on the blue slider. The wiggling of the white slider produces the "click noise", but also the hysteresis. Alright.
    (http://www.google.de/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://media.bestofmicro.com/Y/M/291550/original/animation_cherry_mx_blue.gif&sa=X&ei=ly9MVYutEey57gaCrYCYAg&ved=0CAUQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGl5OOefymAlJdNW6R5_uW0-TeJpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Fri, 08 May 2015, 02:19:47
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 07 May 2015, 22:44:24
    I see, I see. The "jailhouse mod" fastens the white slider, that is, prevents the white slider from moving up and down on the blue slider. The wiggling of the white slider produces the "click noise", but also the hysteresis. Alright.
    Show Image
    (http://www.google.de/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://media.bestofmicro.com/Y/M/291550/original/animation_cherry_mx_blue.gif&sa=X&ei=ly9MVYutEey57gaCrYCYAg&ved=0CAUQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGl5OOefymAlJdNW6R5_uW0-TeJpg)

    I've been looking at my gateron blues today. I think the click actually comes from the copper parts making contact. after the thickest part of the bump passes, the curved metal leaf actually pushes the white slider down while slapping against the other side. the click is actually from the slap, and not from the white slider bottoming out as people seem to suggest.

    EDIT: Maybe I was wrong about the blues clicky mechanism. It seems that both do the clicking, but the slider does far more of it. It seems the slider clicks on the blue stem's tabs holding it and not from bottoming out though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 May 2015, 06:58:24
    Yeah I think y'all are right about the Jailhouse Blues. No more hysteresis but no more clicking either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:24:06
    Vintage or nah

    (http://i.imgur.com/MxhfC8U.jpg?1)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:34:16
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:24:06
    Vintage or nah

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MxhfC8U.jpg?1)

    Looks like every other brown I've ever seen. Dunno how to tell them apart
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:37:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:34:16
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:24:06
    Vintage or nah

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/MxhfC8U.jpg?1)

    Looks like every other brown I've ever seen. Dunno how to tell them apart
    logo is wider (and seems to be a little more flush) on vintage. These look a little like it but also more centered whereas vintage logos kinda seem closer to the stem
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phx on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:53:39
    how do I fix pinging switches? through lubing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:57:27
    Quote from: phx on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:53:39
    how do I fix pinging switches? through lubing?

    Lube your switches, clean them, put drawer liner or something of that nature in between the PCB and bottom of the case, put your keyboard on top of something like a mousepad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Fri, 08 May 2015, 10:18:50
    It is my understanding that the purple pins are usable for the matrix.  The green one can be used but the LED on the Teensy will flicker which I don't care about.  For what is the orange pin used?  I am going to use three or four LEDs.  Can I connect them all to the same/either ground?

    I have the matrix soldered, I just need to connect it the controller.  Am I correct in understanding that I can connect the teensy to anywhere on each row/column.  Can't imagine why it would need to be at one end or the other but I just want to make sure.
    [attachimg=1]

    Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 3K on Sat, 09 May 2015, 05:53:57
    So I want to replace the missing cable of my G80-3000.
    The problem is I have no idea in what order I solder in the single strands of the new cable.
    It looks like this on the PCB:

    More
    (http://abload.de/img/mysteryxauu5.png)

    The strands that were left on the board were attached in the order: yellow, white, green, black, no coating. [1..5]

    Can someone tell me what color goes where?/ Where I have to connect Vcc, Data, GND?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 09 May 2015, 06:44:25


    Quote from: 3K on Sat, 09 May 2015, 05:53:57
    So I want to replace the missing cable of my G80-3000.
    The problem is I have no idea in what order I solder in the single strands of the new cable.
    It looks like this on the PCB:

    More
    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/mysteryxauu5.png)

    The strands that were left on the board were attached in the order: yellow, white, green, black, no coating. [1..5]

    Can someone tell me what color goes where?/ Where I have to connect Vcc, Data, GND?

    Maybe someone here knows how that board is wired up, but if I were you I would just do trial and error. 5v is going to hurt anything.

    This would be the standard for USB:

    1. Vcc
    2. Data -
    3. Data +
    4. Ground
    5. Shield (uncoated)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wilba on Sat, 09 May 2015, 06:59:25
    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 09 May 2015, 06:44:25
    Maybe someone here knows how that board is wired up, but if I were you I would just do trial and error. 5v is going to hurt anything.

    Yeah, um... swapping 5V and ground will kill ICs. At least identify ground and get that connected correctly before experimenting.

    *edit* take a photo of the PCB and where you want to connect the USB, I may be able to identify the pinout.

    *edit2* "yellow, white, green, black, no coating" does line up with 5V, Data-, Data+, Ground, Shield. It's usually red not yellow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:11:04


    Quote from: Wilba on Sat, 09 May 2015, 06:59:25
    Yeah, um... swapping 5V and ground will kill ICs.

    Eek! Obviously not my intention. I was applying my experience with analog circuitry like op amps. OP listen to this guy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 3K on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:29:16
    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:11:04
    OP listen to this guy.
    No problem, thanks for trying to help, haha.

    Quote from: Wilba on Sat, 09 May 2015, 06:59:25
    "yellow, white, green, black, no coating" does line up with 5V, Data-, Data+, Ground, Shield. It's usually red not yellow.
    Thanks, I connected it like this, plugged in the USB cable, boot, nothing. No LED reaction, no input registered.
    Any ideas? Should I have used a PS/2 cable?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 May 2015, 10:18:00
    Quote from: 3K on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:29:16
    Quote from: Wilba on Sat, 09 May 2015, 06:59:25
    "yellow, white, green, black, no coating" does line up with 5V, Data-, Data+, Ground, Shield. It's usually red not yellow.
    Thanks, I connected it like this, plugged in the USB cable, boot, nothing. No LED reaction, no input registered.
    Any ideas? Should I have used a PS/2 cable?

    Did you try a different USB port? Are you sure your solder joints are all good?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 3K on Sat, 09 May 2015, 12:07:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 May 2015, 10:18:00
    Did you try a different USB port? Are you sure your solder joints are all good?
    Yep, 3 USB ports, resoldered all the joints, still nothing.
    Thanks, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 May 2015, 17:31:24
    Quote from: 3K on Sat, 09 May 2015, 12:07:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 May 2015, 10:18:00
    Did you try a different USB port? Are you sure your solder joints are all good?
    Yep, 3 USB ports, resoldered all the joints, still nothing.
    Thanks, though.

    Hm....I guess it's time to try a PS/2 cable then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 09 May 2015, 18:20:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 May 2015, 17:31:24
    Quote from: 3K on Sat, 09 May 2015, 12:07:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 May 2015, 10:18:00
    Did you try a different USB port? Are you sure your solder joints are all good?
    Yep, 3 USB ports, resoldered all the joints, still nothing.
    Thanks, though.

    Hm....I guess it's time to try a PS/2 cable then.
    Obligatory warning about PS/2 hotswapping. If you don't have a USB-PS/2 adapter, power down before plugging in or risk frying something!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 09 May 2015, 20:13:08
    Can someone suggest the optimal tweezer to use for switch top removals? (Amazon)

    I have self made tools but I generally end up only removing one side and then ripping/pulling off the other side, doesn't damage the switch, yet it's obviously not optimal
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sat, 09 May 2015, 21:51:35
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Sat, 09 May 2015, 20:13:08
    Can someone suggest the optimal tweezer to use for switch top removals? (Amazon)

    If you mean switch top removal of mounted switches, then this is a good question. For now I don't have any better method than to take a tiny and thin flathead, lever with it through 2 holes of one side of the switch, until the switch gets a gap. Then stick a wire through the gap (for that the gap cannot close anymore). Then lever the 2 holes on the other side of the switch. And again this is a suboptimal solution.

    BTW: I've tried the binder clip method but it is abit crude. The metal can easily bruise the plastic of the housing. I mean it works, but you have to use them with care.

    BTW: I bought one of those cheap 1-$-pincers from eBay (China). I regret this, because those pincers bent like chewing gum, it is complete garbage and useless!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 09 May 2015, 22:24:53
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Sat, 09 May 2015, 20:13:08
    Can someone suggest the optimal tweezer to use for switch top removals? (Amazon)

    I have self made tools but I generally end up only removing one side and then ripping/pulling off the other side, doesn't damage the switch, yet it's obviously not optimal

    kin25 makes and sells switch top removers for $2/ea. and supposedly work very well. Of course shipping from S. Korea will cost you more than $2 but maybe you can find someone closer who has a set for sale.

    EDIT: and then there's this that I just found out about: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64115.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 09 May 2015, 22:48:39
    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 09 May 2015, 22:24:53
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Sat, 09 May 2015, 20:13:08
    Can someone suggest the optimal tweezer to use for switch top removals? (Amazon)

    I have self made tools but I generally end up only removing one side and then ripping/pulling off the other side, doesn't damage the switch, yet it's obviously not optimal

    kin25 makes and sells switch top removers for $2/ea. and supposedly work very well. Of course shipping from S. Korea will cost you more than $2 but maybe you can find someone closer who has a set for sale.

    EDIT: and then there's this that I just found out about: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64115.0

    Removing them from bottom is actually pretty easy, I just dislodge 2 sides, hold the opening, dislodge another then another

    However, I don't have a similar working method for mounted switch top removal, minimally I end up bruising the holes a bit

    If I was to make a blind decision, I would buy 2x of this one: http://www.amazon.com/Beadalon-213A-010-Tweezers-Curved/dp/B004DGISUG/ref=sr_1_27?ie=UTF8&qid=1431229659&sr=8-27&keywords=tweezer
    to remove the switch top with 2-hands / 2 tweezers, however the dimensions are unclear
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 May 2015, 00:50:56
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Sat, 09 May 2015, 20:13:08
    Can someone suggest the optimal tweezer to use for switch top removals? (Amazon)

    I have self made tools but I generally end up only removing one side and then ripping/pulling off the other side, doesn't damage the switch, yet it's obviously not optimal

    Halverson told me he uses a pair of reverse tweezers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rafi66 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 07:44:24
    I have two questions for you guys.
    I was thinking about getting a new keyboard ~100$ and I narrowed it down to these three. Which should I go with?
    http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfireultimate/
    http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfirext/
    http://ozonegaming.com/product/strike-battle/

    And if we compare those three to Ducky Shine 3? It's worth to pay almost 2x more (in my country) to get Ducky? Is the quality between those two models really significant? The functionality is almost the same? Will Ducky last for few more years?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 May 2015, 10:48:33
    Quote from: Rafi66 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 07:44:24
    I have two questions for you guys.
    I was thinking about getting a new keyboard ~100$ and I narrowed it down to these three. Which should I go with?
    http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfireultimate/
    http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfirext/
    http://ozonegaming.com/product/strike-battle/

    And if we compare those three to Ducky Shine 3? It's worth to pay almost 2x more (in my country) to get Ducky? Is the quality between those two models really significant? The functionality is almost the same? Will Ducky last for few more years?

    Out of the three of those, I'd pick the XT. CoolerMaster quality without their weird gamer aesthetic. Dunno anything about Ozone boards. Read next to nothing on them. Might be a fine Costar produced board but I really don't know.

    I'm partial to ducky because I like backlighting and I like modding my keyboards. Ducky boards have really nice thick PCBs that are great to work on. And I think ducky stock caps are better than CM. But I'm sure that a CM board will last just as long as a Ducky. Not sure how you define quality so I can't say. For me it's in the details like PCB, how the board is assembled, and the construction of the case.

    If it's almost twice the amount to get a Ducky, I'd grab the XT if I were you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Air tree on Sun, 10 May 2015, 12:22:51
    This is probably simple enough, since I'm inept.

    So I opened my HHKB to install 55g domes and I screw the pcb back in, and when I screw in the back screws in the case, the front bit is cracked open when I close the back up. I make sure to the front clips are done, and it still won't close properly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sun, 10 May 2015, 12:41:30
    Quote from: Air tree on Sun, 10 May 2015, 12:22:51
    This is probably simple enough, since I'm inept.

    So I opened my HHKB to install 55g domes and I screw the pcb back in, and when I screw in the back screws in the case, the front bit is cracked open when I close the back up. I make sure to the front clips are done, and it still won't close properly.


    I had that happen to me too. I found that i just had to unscrew the 3 case screws and keep playing around with closing it to ensure the front clips are properly closed. Someone once posted a trick in the "post your topre" thread, but I cannot remember what it was.  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bsclly on Sun, 10 May 2015, 17:43:47
    I have a poker 2 blue switches with a weird ctrl key. Weird as in broken. It's broken and I dont know how to fix it. Is there anything I can do without taking the entire keyboard apart?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 May 2015, 17:55:08
    Quote from: Bsclly on Sun, 10 May 2015, 17:43:47
    I have a poker 2 blue switches with a weird ctrl key. Weird as in broken. It's broken and I dont know how to fix it. Is there anything I can do without taking the entire keyboard apart?

    Best check to do is to aquakeytest or use a multimeter to see if when you press CTRL, if it registers a signal. If it doesn't, you may need to fix the solder joints or swap out the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rafi66 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:17:23
    What do you think about swiches? Which are best for gaming? Isn't brown "perceptible jump" too frustrating?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:23:00
    Quote from: Rafi66 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:17:23
    What do you think about swiches? Which are best for gaming? Isn't brown "perceptible jump" too frustrating?

    It's entirely personal preference. I didn't have any frustration with browns -- I also didn't register a perceptible jump at all. I game on clears without any issue, and I'm happy with it. Personally I don't like linear switches at all, but other people love them. My recommendation would be to try out as many switches as you can, and see which one you like best.

    My recommendation would be to avoid blues or greens, because they reset significantly above the activation point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:43:07
    Quote from: Rafi66 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:17:23
    What do you think about swiches? Which are best for gaming? Isn't brown "perceptible jump" too frustrating?

    Lol...Best for gaming is whatever you're comfortable with. There's a billion threads on this and honestly, what I'll tell you isn't what the next two people will tell you. I like playing video games on MX Blacks, Green Alps, Blue Alps, and Model Fs.

    I hate "Best for ______ " topics because if there was a best switch for anything, we'd all be typing on it. Find something that works for you and just go with it. There's no wrong answer other than trying to use 2KRO boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 11 May 2015, 08:30:02
    i just came across a ripster ( :-\) guide in which he suggested reapplying stabilizer lube every 6 months. is this even necessary?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 May 2015, 08:33:02
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 11 May 2015, 08:30:02
    i just came across a ripster ( :-\) guide in which he suggested reapplying stabilizer lube every 6 months. is this even necessary?

    Hm...so it wouldn't hurt right? But I've bought vintage Alps boards where the stabilizer grease has been on there for like 20 years. Or however long the board has been around. It can't hurt to do it but that's up to you if you want to redo it that often.

    If it were me? I'd just do it once and move on. Only time I'd reapply is if I opened the board up and it was super dusty or dirty in the area with the lube or if I accidently wiped off some of hte lube.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 11 May 2015, 08:37:25
    nah, i think i've asked that question before and have since came to the conclusion that lubing is a one and done deal. he wrote 6 MONTHS in caps though so that got me questioning my understanding of this lubing affair a little
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 11 May 2015, 08:58:51
    Some people like lube in general. All aspects of life. You can be certain that it reduces friction and that reduces wear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 11 May 2015, 09:00:25
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Mon, 11 May 2015, 08:30:02
    i just came across a ripster ( :-\) guide in which he suggested reapplying stabilizer lube every 6 months. is this even necessary?
    Yea definitely not. It's manufactured to last
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jamster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 09:09:13
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Sat, 09 May 2015, 20:13:08
    Can someone suggest the optimal tweezer to use for switch top removals? (Amazon)

    I have self made tools but I generally end up only removing one side and then ripping/pulling off the other side, doesn't damage the switch, yet it's obviously not optimal

    I have these and they worked perfectly well for opening MX switches.

    http://www.amazon.com/Goot-TS-15-Precision-tweezers/dp/B0036RN5CE
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cottonsox on Tue, 12 May 2015, 02:15:29
    I have 2x3x4 LEDs that rub against Ivan's RD3 pbt's.

    I am wondering if these any of these would be a better solution, more looking to find the style that works without the need to sand them down! I have some future projects and my board currently has SIP sockets so switching a new style in would be easy

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-3MM-LED-light-emitting-diode-100PCS-component-package-red-green-yellow-blue-and-white-free/832451905.html

    http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-100pcs-Super-Bright-3mm-Round-cold-White-Water-Clear-LED-Light-Diode-kit-6000/629743_1038307978.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 12 May 2015, 06:48:58
    Are these all the standard gmk colors? I thought there where more of them  :eek:
    (http://i.imgur.com/NFN6k2q.jpg)

    In an hypothetical gmk small set, made of 10 keys, what could be the cost of 1u and 1.25u keys? Blank and with legends?

    thanks :-)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:34:34
    Quote from: Giorgio on Tue, 12 May 2015, 06:48:58
    1) Are these all the standard gmk colors?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/NFN6k2q.jpg)


    2) In an hypothetical gmk small set, made of 10 keys, what could be the cost of 1u and 1.25u keys? Blank and with legends?

    1) Yes I believe those are all the standard colors

    2) Feng ran this windowed cap buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60117.0) with pricing close to what you're looking for. Here's pricing for Ivan's CMYK and Purple mod set (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0). Here is Ivan's GMK mini pack GB with pricing for escapes and space bars (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50591.0). Remember that the pricing is cheapest with blanks, then pad printed, and then doubleshot.


    Quote from: Cottonsox on Tue, 12 May 2015, 02:15:29
    I have 2x3x4 LEDs that rub against Ivan's RD3 pbt's.

    I am wondering if these any of these would be a better solution, more looking to find the style that works without the need to sand them down! I have some future projects and my board currently has SIP sockets so switching a new style in would be easy

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-3MM-LED-light-emitting-diode-100PCS-component-package-red-green-yellow-blue-and-white-free/832451905.html

    http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-100pcs-Super-Bright-3mm-Round-cold-White-Water-Clear-LED-Light-Diode-kit-6000/629743_1038307978.html


    You can always sand the LEDs down a little. That's an option. I have 2x3x4mm LEDs in my KMAC and I haven't had that issue thankfully.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:47:44
    So the cost of the gmk 1u should be, more or less:
    €1 blank
    €1.7 double shot

    The 1.25u:
    €2 blank

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:34:34
    Quote from: Giorgio on Tue, 12 May 2015, 06:48:58
    1) Are these all the standard gmk colors?
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/NFN6k2q.jpg)


    2) In an hypothetical gmk small set, made of 10 keys, what could be the cost of 1u and 1.25u keys? Blank and with legends?

    1) Yes I believe those are all the standard colors

    2) Feng ran this windowed cap buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60117.0) with pricing close to what you're looking for. Here's pricing for Ivan's CMYK and Purple mod set (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0). Here is Ivan's GMK mini pack GB with pricing for escapes and space bars (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50591.0). Remember that the pricing is cheapest with blanks, then pad printed, and then doubleshot.


    Quote from: Cottonsox on Tue, 12 May 2015, 02:15:29
    I have 2x3x4 LEDs that rub against Ivan's RD3 pbt's.

    I am wondering if these any of these would be a better solution, more looking to find the style that works without the need to sand them down! I have some future projects and my board currently has SIP sockets so switching a new style in would be easy

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-3MM-LED-light-emitting-diode-100PCS-component-package-red-green-yellow-blue-and-white-free/832451905.html

    http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-100pcs-Super-Bright-3mm-Round-cold-White-Water-Clear-LED-Light-Diode-kit-6000/629743_1038307978.html


    You can always sand the LEDs down a little. That's an option. I have 2x3x4mm LEDs in my KMAC and I haven't had that issue thankfully.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FreeChemicals on Wed, 13 May 2015, 13:09:14
    I've received a bunch of MX Clear switches today, and one has a bended 'leg':

    (http://i.imgur.com/hNUS4gS.png)

    What would be the best way to straighten it?

    After being clamped with an adjustable wrench in a cup of hot water for about 1.5h, it just just bent back into the previous position..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 May 2015, 13:12:19
    Quote from: FreeChemicals on Wed, 13 May 2015, 13:09:14
    I've received a bunch of MX Clear switches today, and one has a bended 'leg':

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hNUS4gS.png)


    What would be the best way to straighten it?

    After being clamped with an adjustable wrench in a cup of hot water for about 1.5h, it just just bent back into the previous position..

    Just get a new stem? I would've suggested what you've already said you did.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 13 May 2015, 13:17:52
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Wed, 13 May 2015, 13:59:44
    Maybe someone know how to remap [Control]+[c] and other shortcuts to [Meta/Win]+[c] in Linux (Ubuntu)? Is it possible?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:02:50
    Quote from: Vitaly on Wed, 13 May 2015, 13:59:44
    Maybe someone know how to remap [Control]+[c] and other shortcuts to [Meta/Win]+[c] in Linux (Ubuntu)? Is it possible?
    Do you want to swap Ctrl and Meta?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:03:48
    Quote from: Vitaly on Wed, 13 May 2015, 13:59:44
    Maybe someone know how to remap [Control]+[c] and other shortcuts to [Meta/Win]+[c] in Linux (Ubuntu)? Is it possible?

    I know literally nothing about Linux but this topic seems helpful (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70788.0). Maybe it'll work for you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zukoi on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:19:15
    Where can I get MX clear/grey stems?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:26:23
    Quote from: Zukoi on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:19:15
    Where can I get MX clear/grey stems?

    MechanicalKeyboards.com (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=43)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zukoi on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:44:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:26:23
    Quote from: Zukoi on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:19:15
    Where can I get MX clear/grey stems?

    MechanicalKeyboards.com (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=43)
    What about only the stems?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:52:40
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zukoi on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:54:31
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:52:40
    Quote from: Zukoi on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:44:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:26:23
    Quote from: Zukoi on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:19:15
    Where can I get MX clear/grey stems?

    MechanicalKeyboards.com (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=43)
    What about only the stems?

    You might try a classifieds post to see if someone has any to spare. It's unlikely though, as people tend to use them. What's more likely is that someone might consider a trade one to one for stems you might have currently and wish to replace.

    To post in the classifieds, you need a total of 25 posts and to have been a member for two months, IIRC.
    Thanks for the pointers. But I don't think anyone wants brown stems. I'll see if springs and lube will improve them.

    On that note, is lithium grease suitable for sliders/inside the switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 May 2015, 15:06:24
    Quote from: Zukoi on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:54:31
    On that note, is lithium grease suitable for sliders/inside the switch?

    I would say no. You're more than welcome to experiment for yourself though.

    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:52:40
    Quote from: Zukoi on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:44:40
    What about only the stems?

    You might try a classifieds post to see if someone has any to spare. It's unlikely though, as people tend to use them. What's more likely is that someone might consider a trade one to one for stems you might have currently and wish to replace.

    To post in the classifieds, you need a total of 25 posts and to have been a member for two months, IIRC.

    Only stems? Classified like Moose said. Clear and Grey stems are usually what people are looking for anyways.

    To post a new topic you need 25 posts + 2 months time but to just post a reply, I don't think there's a time limit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vitaly on Wed, 13 May 2015, 15:15:32
    Quote from: wlhlm on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:02:50
    Do you want to swap Ctrl and Meta?
    No, it's simple  :) Meta is pretty useless button on linux, I want use it for regular actions and use Control for terminal (for which purpose this button was created, for example control c in terminal is interrupt process and for copy you should use any other shortcut)

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:03:48
    I know literally nothing about Linux but this topic seems helpful (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70788.0). Maybe it'll work for you?
    Thanks! Will go read.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 15 May 2015, 08:39:37
    [erased - sorry]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 15 May 2015, 16:04:08
    Is there anywhere to buy Alps/Matias keycaps other than salvaging old boards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 15 May 2015, 16:14:17
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 15 May 2015, 16:23:37
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 15 May 2015, 16:04:08
    Is there anywhere to buy Alps/Matias keycaps other than salvaging old boards?

    MMhhuuhhaa hhaa hhaa hhaa

    Frankly, I think the old Apple PBTs are the best-feeling of all, but they have weird incomplete legend sets and the F keys are wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:26:30
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 15 May 2015, 16:04:08
    Is there anywhere to buy Alps/Matias keycaps other than salvaging old boards?
    Right now? No
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 15 May 2015, 18:01:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:26:30
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 15 May 2015, 16:04:08
    Is there anywhere to buy Alps/Matias keycaps other than salvaging old boards?
    Right now? No
    I think you can PM Matias on here and he will sell some, but I am not sure
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 15 May 2015, 20:36:18
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Fri, 15 May 2015, 18:01:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:26:30
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 15 May 2015, 16:04:08
    Is there anywhere to buy Alps/Matias keycaps other than salvaging old boards?
    Right now? No
    I think you can PM Matias on here and he will sell some, but I am not sure

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68887.msg1681642#msg1681642
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 15 May 2015, 22:08:52
    Okay thanks guys. I appreciate the help.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zukoi on Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:01:59
    Why are Koreans so into keyboards as opposed to other countries in Asia? I noticed there are a lot of talk about Korean keyboard around here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:32:08
    Quote from: Zukoi on Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:01:59
    Why are Koreans so into keyboards as opposed to other countries in Asia? I noticed there are a lot of talk about Korean keyboard around here.

    Korea is one of the biggest (quality) electronics producers in the world. I'd say it has a lot to do with that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 16 May 2015, 02:25:28
    I have a question for any Novatouch owners: Have you ever had trouble putting on a replacement spacebar? I put my set of black blanks from Ivan's GB on my new Novatouch, but the spacebar doesn't seem to fit on properly. I've also tried two other PBT spacebars from different sets (one thick PBT cherry profile, one thin PBT OEM profile) and the stock DasKB spacebar. At this point, only the stock spacebar from the NT and the DasKB stock spacebar will fit.

    Does anyone have any insight on why my other spacebars aren't working, or what I can do about it? Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zustiur on Sat, 16 May 2015, 03:19:51
    I just ordered 3 teensy 2.0's and I'm pretty sure they'll come without the pre-installed riser pins that my existing teensy has. I got that one from massdrop in an ergodox kit.
    What is the correct name for those pins?
    I call them risers or standoffs, but if I have to buy some, I want to know what to look for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 16 May 2015, 07:20:10
    Quote from: Zukoi on Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:01:59
    Why are Koreans so into keyboards as opposed to other countries in Asia? I noticed there are a lot of talk about Korean keyboard around here.
    Because they can afford it.

    South Korea, is one of the top 3 countries on Asia in terms of per capita GDP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 16 May 2015, 09:36:41
    Quote from: Zustiur on Sat, 16 May 2015, 03:19:51
    I just ordered 3 teensy 2.0's and I'm pretty sure they'll come without the pre-installed riser pins that my existing teensy has. I got that one from massdrop in an ergodox kit.
    What is the correct name for those pins?
    I call them risers or standoffs, but if I have to buy some, I want to know what to look for.

    They are called "pins"

    You order the Teensy "with pins" or "without pins" and the pins are an extra dollar or 2.

    You can also buy strips of pins cut cut to length and install yourself, but it is probably pretty tight and fussy.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/40-Pin-Header-Pins-Strip-PCB-0-1-2-54mm-for-Arduino-Breadboard-UK-Seller-/301450955714?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item462fe08bc2 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/40-Pin-Header-Pins-Strip-PCB-0-1-2-54mm-for-Arduino-Breadboard-UK-Seller-/301450955714?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item462fe08bc2)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 16 May 2015, 09:50:28
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 16 May 2015, 09:36:41
    Quote from: Zustiur on Sat, 16 May 2015, 03:19:51
    I just ordered 3 teensy 2.0's and I'm pretty sure they'll come without the pre-installed riser pins that my existing teensy has. I got that one from massdrop in an ergodox kit.
    What is the correct name for those pins?
    I call them risers or standoffs, but if I have to buy some, I want to know what to look for.

    They are called "pins"

    You order the Teensy "with pins" or "without pins" and the pins are an extra dollar or 2.

    You can also buy strips of pins cut cut to length and install yourself, but it is probably pretty tight and fussy.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/40-Pin-Header-Pins-Strip-PCB-0-1-2-54mm-for-Arduino-Breadboard-UK-Seller-/301450955714?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item462fe08bc2 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/40-Pin-Header-Pins-Strip-PCB-0-1-2-54mm-for-Arduino-Breadboard-UK-Seller-/301450955714?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item462fe08bc2)
    Or "header pins" to be more specific. .100" or 2.54mm spacing for the Teensy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Sat, 16 May 2015, 11:28:20
    I'm planning to swap springs, add SIP sockets, sticker and thus lube my (brand new) Gateron Black switches.

    But while I was taking apart the switches, I noticed that the stem came with some factory grease applied on them.

    > How should I clean the stems before applying my own lube (GH thin formula = Krytox GPL 206/1506 mixture) ?

    I don't have the ultra-sonic cleaner thing, nor any mysterious (but powerful) industrial detergent (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68443.msg1696639#msg1696639)  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 May 2015, 14:46:06
    Quote from: Lpwl on Sat, 16 May 2015, 11:28:20
    I'm planning to swap springs, add SIP sockets, sticker and thus lube my (brand new) Gateron Black switches.

    But while I was taking apart the switches, I noticed that the stem came with some factory grease applied on them.

    > How should I clean the stems before applying my own lube (GH thin formula = Krytox GPL 206/1506 mixture) ?

    I don't have the ultra-sonic cleaner thing, nor any mysterious (but powerful) industrial detergent (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68443.msg1696639#msg1696639)  ;D
    Microfiber cloth
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RavenII on Sat, 16 May 2015, 14:48:44
    Dude, pay attention!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zukoi on Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:26:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 16 May 2015, 14:46:06
    Quote from: Lpwl on Sat, 16 May 2015, 11:28:20
    I'm planning to swap springs, add SIP sockets, sticker and thus lube my (brand new) Gateron Black switches.

    But while I was taking apart the switches, I noticed that the stem came with some factory grease applied on them.

    > How should I clean the stems before applying my own lube (GH thin formula = Krytox GPL 206/1506 mixture) ?

    I don't have the ultra-sonic cleaner thing, nor any mysterious (but powerful) industrial detergent (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68443.msg1696639#msg1696639)  ;D
    Microfiber cloth
    Some isopropyl alcohol soaked in doesn't hurt either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lpwl on Sun, 17 May 2015, 06:28:35
    Alright, thank you all !
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 19 May 2015, 07:41:41
    Anyone know SP 6u stem spacing? Not 6.25, real 6u.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 09:17:50
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 19 May 2015, 07:41:41
    Anyone know SP 6u stem spacing? Not 6.25, real 6u.

    Haata and the Input Club would know. They designed one of their boards with 6u.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 19 May 2015, 09:20:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 09:17:50
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 19 May 2015, 07:41:41
    Anyone know SP 6u stem spacing? Not 6.25, real 6u.

    Haata and the Input Club would know. They designed one of their boards with 6u.
    That's the reason I need to know, I'm adding an infinity option to the CF case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:07:54
    Pretty sure it's on there...

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:11:06
    Quote from: Hzza on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:07:54
    Pretty sure it's on there...

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions

    Unfortunately it's non-SP measurements though. Not sure if it's correct to assume that one of the 6u spacing there is the same as SP's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:14:10
    Oh balls, sorry, I was looking at the 6.25u ones.

    No clue what SPs would be, I'm not sure I've got one to check...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: appleonama on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:45:38
    How do you use the DUCK 02D software to program a duck eagle keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:48:36
    Quote from: appleonama on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:45:38
    How do you use the DUCK 02D software to program a duck eagle keyboard

    I've never used that exact software but I'd assume it's like the other programs I've used. You build a layout you like then make a hex file. Then use Flip to push the hex file onto your board's chip.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:58:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:48:36
    Quote from: appleonama on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:45:38
    How do you use the DUCK 02D software to program a duck eagle keyboard

    I've never used that exact software but I'd assume it's like the other programs I've used. You build a layout you like then make a hex file. Then use Flip to push the hex file onto your board's chip.

    I don't think you need atmel's FLIP, I think the program accesses the bootloader directly.  Make your layout, and hold down the caps lock key while plugging in the usb cable.  Then upload the firmware.

    Note: I also have not used this particular software, but all the cool kids are using direct access loaders that mean you never have to get messy with a hex or eep file if you don't want to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:00:59
    Quote from: Spopepro on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:58:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:48:36
    Quote from: appleonama on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:45:38
    How do you use the DUCK 02D software to program a duck eagle keyboard

    I've never used that exact software but I'd assume it's like the other programs I've used. You build a layout you like then make a hex file. Then use Flip to push the hex file onto your board's chip.

    I don't think you need atmel's FLIP, I think the program accesses the bootloader directly.  Make your layout, and hold down the caps lock key while plugging in the usb cable.  Then upload the firmware.

    Note: I also have not used this particular software, but all the cool kids are using direct access loaders that mean you never have to get messy with a hex or eep file if you don't want to.

    That's super handy. Thanks for the heads up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Wed, 20 May 2015, 09:29:03
    1x Winkey formats (like The Cheat), do they have a "special" (i.e. not 6.25x) spacebar?

    Bottom Row Math
    Ansi:
    1.25 * 7 = 8.75
    8.75 + 6.25 = 15 units on the bottom row

    1x Winkey builds:
    1.5 * 4 = 6
    1 * 2 = 2
    15 - 6 - 2 = 7x Spacebar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 20 May 2015, 09:53:29
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 19 May 2015, 07:41:41
    Anyone know SP 6u stem spacing? Not 6.25, real 6u.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:11:06
    Quote from: Hzza on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:07:54
    Pretty sure it's on there...

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions

    Unfortunately it's non-SP measurements though. Not sure if it's correct to assume that one of the 6u spacing there is the same as SP's.

    I took those measurements from the SP 6u spacebar...

    (http://i.imgur.com/mu6SdD2.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 20 May 2015, 09:54:41
    Quote from: greath on Wed, 20 May 2015, 09:29:03
    1x Winkey formats (like The Cheat), do they have a "special" (i.e. not 6.25x) spacebar?

    Bottom Row Math
    Ansi:
    1.25 * 7 = 8.75
    8.75 + 6.25 = 15 units on the bottom row

    1x Winkey builds:
    1.5 * 4 = 6
    1 * 2 = 2
    15 - 6 - 2 = 7x Spacebar?


    Yes.

    1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1-1.5

    :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:23:23
    If anyone here can read Korean, would you mind checking this page for any references or links to KMAC Happy firmware / keymapping software?
    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=15&cate_no=1&display_group=11

    Still looking for a working version :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:06:33
    What would one use to flash a 456gt controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:22:59
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:06:33
    What would one use to flash a 456gt controller?

    Would flip work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:34:19
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:23:23
    If anyone here can read Korean, would you mind checking this page for any references or links to KMAC Happy firmware / keymapping software?
    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=15&cate_no=1&display_group=11

    Still looking for a working version :(

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.5

    Does this work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clacktalk on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:34:36
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:23:23
    If anyone here can read Korean, would you mind checking this page for any references or links to KMAC Happy firmware / keymapping software?
    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=15&cate_no=1&display_group=11

    Still looking for a working version :(
    I use the one acantha posted a while back. i'll scan the site once i'm home. are you looking for anything specific?

    edit: i think anson posted
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: laden3 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 05:10:30
    Anybody knows where to obtain one 87% pcb that can be used in a lz board (lz-fe)?

    If I am not mistaken, my options are sprit and gon but I am afraid that I might miss another source.

    Thanks in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 May 2015, 07:17:43
    Quote from: laden3 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 05:10:30
    Anybody knows where to obtain one 87% pcb that can be used in a lz board (lz-fe)?

    If I am not mistaken, my options are sprit and gon but I am afraid that I might miss another source.

    Thanks in advance.
    Why not contact LZ and get their PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 22 May 2015, 13:45:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:34:19
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:23:23
    If anyone here can read Korean, would you mind checking this page for any references or links to KMAC Happy firmware / keymapping software?
    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=15&cate_no=1&display_group=11

    Still looking for a working version :(

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.5

    Does this work?

    No, it doesn't, already tried a while ago.

    Quote from: clacktalk on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:34:36
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:23:23
    If anyone here can read Korean, would you mind checking this page for any references or links to KMAC Happy firmware / keymapping software?
    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=15&cate_no=1&display_group=11

    Still looking for a working version :(
    I use the one acantha posted a while back. i'll scan the site once i'm home. are you looking for anything specific?

    edit: i think anson posted


    Yes, I've installed the mirrored software Acantha hosted, because the original files are no longer accessible, and the key mapper executable does not run on 2 different computers I've tried it with.  I just need to generate a modified layout hex file.  If yours still works, I'd PM with a request, if you don't mind.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clacktalk on Fri, 22 May 2015, 13:57:03
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 22 May 2015, 13:45:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:34:19
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:23:23
    If anyone here can read Korean, would you mind checking this page for any references or links to KMAC Happy firmware / keymapping software?
    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=15&cate_no=1&display_group=11

    Still looking for a working version :(

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.5

    Does this work?

    No, it doesn't, already tried a while ago.

    Quote from: clacktalk on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:34:36
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:23:23
    If anyone here can read Korean, would you mind checking this page for any references or links to KMAC Happy firmware / keymapping software?
    http://kbdmod.com/product/detail.html?product_no=15&cate_no=1&display_group=11

    Still looking for a working version :(
    I use the one acantha posted a while back. i'll scan the site once i'm home. are you looking for anything specific?

    edit: i think anson posted


    Yes, I've installed the mirrored software Acantha hosted, because the original files are no longer accessible, and the key mapper executable does not run on 2 different computers I've tried it with.  I just need to generate a modified layout hex file.  If yours still works, I'd PM with a request, if you don't mind.
    yeah i can definitely send over a hexfile tonight. i used it this past week to try out a 1u backspace, so my programs are definitely functional
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 22 May 2015, 14:40:10
    That would be so great--I've been trying to get this working for weeks now.  Thanks, I'll send you a PM.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 22 May 2015, 17:39:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:06:33
    What would one use to flash a 456gt controller?

    I haven't quite sacked up and tried to flash my 356 Mini yet, but I've spoken to quite a few people about it and gathered a whole mess of software and firmware for it. Info always seems to be incredibly sketchy on programming OTD boards for whatever reason, but from what I gather it should be very similar if not the same for the Mini, DGE, 456GT, and 360 Corsa, so if you can find someone who has flashed one of those it might help.

    The guy I spoke to who wrote a UI for 356 Mini layouts told me I'd need an AVR ISP Programmer and you can load the hex files onto the board with avrdude. The firmware hex can be generated via the version of ps2avr here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ps2avr/ however you'll need to map the columns appropriately which again, I haven't done. Ditto on the fuse settings, should be similar to the other late-model 356 boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 17:44:35
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Fri, 22 May 2015, 17:39:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:06:33
    What would one use to flash a 456gt controller?

    I haven't quite sacked up and tried to flash my 356 Mini yet, but I've spoken to quite a few people about it and gathered a whole mess of software and firmware for it. Info always seems to be incredibly sketchy on programming OTD boards for whatever reason, but from what I gather it should be very similar if not the same for the Mini, DGE, 456GT, and 360 Corsa, so if you can find someone who has flashed one of those it might help.

    The guy I spoke to who wrote a UI for 356 Mini layouts told me I'd need an AVR ISP Programmer and you can load the hex files onto the board with avrdude. The firmware hex can be generated via the version of ps2avr here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ps2avr/ however you'll need to map the columns appropriately which again, I haven't done. Ditto on the fuse settings, should be similar to the other late-model 356 boards.
    Alright thanks, I'll look into that
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Sat, 23 May 2015, 01:02:58
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-doubleshot-pbt-keycaps

    would these fit a ducky mini fine? kind of tempted to get them but I have no idea what I'd do with the extra caps from it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 23 May 2015, 01:20:43
    Quote from: Rena on Sat, 23 May 2015, 01:02:58
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-doubleshot-pbt-keycaps

    would these fit a ducky mini fine? kind of tempted to get them but I have no idea what I'd do with the extra caps from it

    Yep. Those will fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: laden3 on Sat, 23 May 2015, 02:24:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 May 2015, 07:17:43
    Quote from: laden3 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 05:10:30
    Anybody knows where to obtain one 87% pcb that can be used in a lz board (lz-fe)?

    If I am not mistaken, my options are sprit and gon but I am afraid that I might miss another source.

    Thanks in advance.
    Why not contact LZ and get their PCB?

    Don't like his pcb. The keymapper doesn't allow macro activation from 1 keypress.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 07:13:31
    How do I disassemble my pok3r case, I don't see any screws?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 May 2015, 08:53:43
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 07:13:31
    How do I disassemble my pok3r case, I don't see any screws?
    Did you take ask the keycaps off and check under all the stickers? Poker X you could only see the screw heads after you took ask the caps off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sat, 23 May 2015, 09:46:06
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 07:13:31
    How do I disassemble my pok3r case, I don't see any screws?

    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0651/0379/products/IMG_2769_grande.jpg?v=1424086992)

    you will find screw on the position of the standoffs underneath the keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:05:40
    I see, thx.

    Another question: http://winkeyless.kr/product/b-87-ex-x2-pcb/

    will this pcb work with ikbc 104 case and plate? (if I go standard layout)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:07:06
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:05:40
    Another question: http://winkeyless.kr/product/b-87-ex-x2-pcb/

    will this pcb work with ikbc 104 case and plate? (if I go standard layout)

    I've never heard of an ikbc case or plate. Could you link me?

    Quote from: laden3 on Sat, 23 May 2015, 02:24:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 May 2015, 07:17:43
    Quote from: laden3 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 05:10:30
    Anybody knows where to obtain one 87% pcb that can be used in a lz board (lz-fe)?

    If I am not mistaken, my options are sprit and gon but I am afraid that I might miss another source.

    Thanks in advance.
    Why not contact LZ and get their PCB?

    Don't like his pcb. The keymapper doesn't allow macro activation from 1 keypress.

    I was under the impression LZ cases on fit LZ PCBs. I thought I had heard that they made theirs unique to prevent drop ins like you're suggesting. I'm not 100% sure though.

    Edit: My LZ expert says that most LZ stuff is going towards beastmask/monstermask PCBs so I think you're right in that you can drop in GON, sprit, or Winkeyless PCBs. And the b.87 or Beastmask PCBs should work. I think Monstermask and beastmask are the same PCBs but I could be mistaken.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:22:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:07:06
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:05:40
    Another question: http://winkeyless.kr/product/b-87-ex-x2-pcb/

    will this pcb work with ikbc 104 case and plate? (if I go standard layout)

    I've never heard of an ikbc case or plate. Could you link me?



    http://www.mechkb.com/vortex-ikbc-f-104-double-shot-pbt-mechanical-keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:38:07
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:22:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:07:06
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:05:40
    Another question: http://winkeyless.kr/product/b-87-ex-x2-pcb/

    will this pcb work with ikbc 104 case and plate? (if I go standard layout)

    I've never heard of an ikbc case or plate. Could you link me?



    http://www.mechkb.com/vortex-ikbc-f-104-double-shot-pbt-mechanical-keyboard

    Got it. I've never seen that board or PCB in person so I'm not sure. You might want to contact winkeyless and ask them. I'm not very familiar with full size boards and their dimensions as there's been very few options for custom full sizes lately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Spopepro on Sat, 23 May 2015, 11:07:40
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 23 May 2015, 10:05:40
    I see, thx.

    Another question: http://winkeyless.kr/product/b-87-ex-x2-pcb/

    will this pcb work with ikbc 104 case and plate? (if I go standard layout)

    I'm on my phone, so I don't have links and leave the google to you, but if you have the keyboard in question, GON provides a DXF of his PCB and winkeyless provides DWGs of his cases. You could download those and take measurements from the computer, or even print a layer on large paper and line it up to check.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 24 May 2015, 21:55:12
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 May 2015, 23:04:12
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 24 May 2015, 21:55:12
    I saw on gonkeyboard works that his sample picture for the gonpad numpad has cherry keycaps with F13,F14,F15,F16 keycaps.  What cherry boards came with more than 12 F keys?

    I don't know a full list but the G80-8113 has 12 F keys plus 12 remappable keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rena on Mon, 25 May 2015, 00:10:49
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400w

    will these ever come back in stock?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BakaPhoenix on Mon, 25 May 2015, 09:20:52
    What happens if i put a red 3mm led on my keyboard that normaly have white led?
    AFAIK red led have lower tension from white led, so i'll burn the led? or something worse?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: absyrd on Mon, 25 May 2015, 13:30:49
    Quote from: Rena on Mon, 25 May 2015, 00:10:49
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400w

    will these ever come back in stock?

    There is no reason I can think of why they shouldn't.

    Sometimes Brian will put an ETA on arrival of new stock a bit after they have sold out, so keep an eye out. Or you can email sales@elitekeyboards.com and they'll usually get back to you pretty quick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 25 May 2015, 22:31:07
    (http://i.imgur.com/2k1Bomk.gif)

    Do you think putting a dampener between the white part of the slider and the bottom of the switch on blues might soften the click while keeping the tactile feedback?

    Half asleep so sorry if there is something simple I'm missing here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 26 May 2015, 01:03:14
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 25 May 2015, 22:31:07
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/2k1Bomk.gif)


    Do you think putting a dampener between the white part of the slider and the bottom of the switch on blues might soften the click while keeping the tactile feedback?

    Half asleep so sorry if there is something simple I'm missing here.

    I don't think there's enough room to get anything that will stick permanently.  Doing a trampoline mod will reduce the sound (in other news: I just found out I hate the feel of trampoline blues!).  I've also heard that using the favored krytox lube blend on blues will silence them a bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 26 May 2015, 01:03:58
    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Mon, 25 May 2015, 09:20:52
    What happens if i put a red 3mm led on my keyboard that normaly have white led?
    AFAIK red led have lower tension from white led, so i'll burn the led? or something worse?

    Depends... what's the code on the resistor (or even better, what's the resistance?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BakaPhoenix on Tue, 26 May 2015, 04:49:41
    Quote from: Spopepro on Tue, 26 May 2015, 01:03:58
    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Mon, 25 May 2015, 09:20:52
    What happens if i put a red 3mm led on my keyboard that normaly have white led?
    AFAIK red led have lower tension from white led, so i'll burn the led? or something worse?

    Depends... what's the code on the resistor (or even better, what's the resistance?)

    I have no idea o3o i can't find any code on it
    Is a quickfire rapid I, making a photo of it will help?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 May 2015, 08:24:01
    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Tue, 26 May 2015, 04:49:41
    Quote from: Spopepro on Tue, 26 May 2015, 01:03:58
    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Mon, 25 May 2015, 09:20:52
    What happens if i put a red 3mm led on my keyboard that normaly have white led?
    AFAIK red led have lower tension from white led, so i'll burn the led? or something worse?

    Depends... what's the code on the resistor (or even better, what's the resistance?)

    I have no idea o3o i can't find any code on it
    Is a quickfire rapid I, making a photo of it will help?

    Yes it should help. If they're through hole, they'll have bands of colors which tells what the resistance is. Dunno how to read it if its SMD but I'm sure there's a similar code.

    And honestly, I've never checked resistance on any of the boards I've swapped LEDs on. I just remove or shove new LEDs in and go. Never had any issues. Nothing wrong with being cautious though.

    Quote from: greath on Mon, 25 May 2015, 22:31:07
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/2k1Bomk.gif)


    Do you think putting a dampener between the white part of the slider and the bottom of the switch on blues might soften the click while keeping the tactile feedback?

    Half asleep so sorry if there is something simple I'm missing here.

    I agree with spopepro. I don't think there's enough space between the two parts.

    Quote from: Rena on Mon, 25 May 2015, 00:10:49
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400w

    will these ever come back in stock?

    Sure, like absyrd said you might want to ask Brian at EliteKeyboards what's going on but there's no reason why they wouldn't.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 09:47:50
    So I finally got my hands on the first Alps board that I actually like (Matias Tactile Pro with simplified grey Alps).

    Now, I've heard the hype about blue Alps but have so far been unimpressed with Alps overall. Now I really want to give them a try. Would anyone be able to tell me of any specific boards I should try to find, or ideas of where I can look?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 May 2015, 09:56:38
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 09:47:50
    So I finally got my hands on the first Alps board that I actually like (Matias Tactile Pro with simplified grey Alps).

    Now, I've heard the hype about blue Alps but have so far been unimpressed with Alps overall. Now I really want to give them a try. Would anyone be able to tell me of any specific boards I should try to find, or ideas of where I can look?

    Thanks.

    The DT wiki has a listing: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCM_Blue#Keyboards

    FYI : Matias Click switches are clones of Simplified gray alps. Not actual Simplified gray alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:01:17
    Mine is the early model of the Tactile Pro keyboard, which appears to actually have grey Alps in it.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Matias_Tactile_Pro
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:08:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 May 2015, 08:24:01
    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Tue, 26 May 2015, 04:49:41
    Quote from: Spopepro on Tue, 26 May 2015, 01:03:58
    Quote from: BakaPhoenix on Mon, 25 May 2015, 09:20:52
    What happens if i put a red 3mm led on my keyboard that normaly have white led?
    AFAIK red led have lower tension from white led, so i'll burn the led? or something worse?

    Depends... what's the code on the resistor (or even better, what's the resistance?)

    I have no idea o3o i can't find any code on it
    Is a quickfire rapid I, making a photo of it will help?

    Yes it should help. If they're through hole, they'll have bands of colors which tells what the resistance is. Dunno how to read it if its SMD but I'm sure there's a similar code.

    And honestly, I've never checked resistance on any of the boards I've swapped LEDs on. I just remove or shove new LEDs in and go. Never had any issues. Nothing wrong with being cautious though.

    Some SMD resistors are labeled with a number code, like 472, which means 4-7-[two zeroes], or 4700Ω, which would be 4.7kΩ. It's actually easier to read than the color bands. But the really tiny SMD parts nowadays don't have labeling. They come on reels which are designed for use by robotic pick-and-place machinery. The best way I've found to get the rating is with an ohmmeter.

    That said, CPT is probably right that you can just pop an LED in and see if it works. It probably will, and if it doesn't the LED will burn out, no harm done.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:11:30
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:01:17
    Mine is the early model of the Tactile Pro keyboard, which appears to actually have grey Alps in it.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Matias_Tactile_Pro

    I'm pretty sure that article isn't updated. Fairly sure Matias have never used SKBL Alps switches and have always used Matias switches. Easiest way to check is to pop of the caps.

    If your switches look like this, you're correct and you have Alps SKBL "simplified" Alps switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBM_Grey).

    If your switches look like this, you've got Matias switches (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Matias_switch). The clear housing is a tell-tale sign that it's Matias.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:17:39
    Yeah, they are Alps. I've checked.

    More
    (http://i.imgur.com/j80FL9A.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:20:00
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:17:39
    Yeah, they are Alps. I've checked.

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/j80FL9A.jpg)

    Mind = Blown. If those are stock and haven't been replaced, I'm obviously mistaken. Thanks for teaching me something new today.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:29:11
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:17:39
    Yeah, they are Alps. I've checked.

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/j80FL9A.jpg)

    Did you buy from Matias or second-hand? It's possible that down the line someone replaced them, though I suppose Matias could have been producing boards before Forward discontinued the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:31:23
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:29:11
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:17:39
    Yeah, they are Alps. I've checked.

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/j80FL9A.jpg)

    Did you buy from Matias or second-hand? It's possible that down the line someone replaced them, though I suppose Matias could have been producing boards before Forward discontinued the switches.

    I think it's this. They must have been making boards when they could still get stock from Forward. I should PM Matias or jacobolus...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 21:38:26
    The DT wiki link you posted earlier for SKBM Grey (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBM_Grey) mentions that they come in earlier Matias Tactile Pro keyboards. I think this was before they developed their own switch.

    Do you know how different the Matias clicky switches are from these? How about blue Alps? I hear blue Alps are the premium unicorn-level-rarity Alps switch and I want to get my hands on them at some point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 26 May 2015, 22:19:06
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 21:38:26
    The DT wiki link you posted earlier for SKBM Grey (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBM_Grey) mentions that they come in earlier Matias Tactile Pro keyboards. I think this was before they developed their own switch.

    Do you know how different the Matias clicky switches are from these? How about blue Alps? I hear blue Alps are the premium unicorn-level-rarity Alps switch and I want to get my hands on them at some point.

    Blue SKCM aren't as rare as some people make them seem. A few boards are on Ebay right now with them. They feel nice, but not worth the price tag in my opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 May 2015, 07:21:25
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 21:38:26
    Do you know how different the Matias clicky switches are from these? How about blue Alps? I hear blue Alps are the premium unicorn-level-rarity Alps switch and I want to get my hands on them at some point.

    I like the Matias clicky switches. They feel exactly like Grey Alps and are my second favorite clicky Alps switch (both gray and Matias Clicky). Blue Alps are my favorite but if you don't want to pay the price, I would just stick with what you have. They're not that rare and they're not unicorn. People just don't explore all the different types of Alps, read that Blues are the best, and then are willing to pay the markups on them. This chart is essentially my least favorite to most favorite switches (top to bottom) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71868.msg1756394#msg1756394).

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 26 May 2015, 22:19:06
    Blue SKCM aren't as rare as some people make them seem. A few boards are on Ebay right now with them. They feel nice, but not worth the price tag in my opinion.

    I really like them. Blue Alps are my favorite and that's why they're in my Kingsaver. Everyone will have an opinion on pricing and I've stated mine above. I think it's worth it if you can find them for relatively cheap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 27 May 2015, 08:13:04
    Yeah totally depends on the price you find them for. The boards over $50 aren't worth it in my opinion. I sold mine because of the price I was able to get for it and the fact that keycaps are so hard to find.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 27 May 2015, 08:42:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 May 2015, 07:21:25
    Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 26 May 2015, 21:38:26
    Do you know how different the Matias clicky switches are from these? How about blue Alps? I hear blue Alps are the premium unicorn-level-rarity Alps switch and I want to get my hands on them at some point.

    I like the Matias clicky switches. They feel exactly like Grey Alps and are my second favorite clicky Alps switch (both gray and Matias Clicky). Blue Alps are my favorite but if you don't want to pay the price, I would just stick with what you have. They're not that rare and they're not unicorn. People just don't explore all the different types of Alps, read that Blues are the best, and then are willing to pay the markups on them. This chart is essentially my least favorite to most favorite switches (top to bottom) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71868.msg1756394#msg1756394).

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 26 May 2015, 22:19:06
    Blue SKCM aren't as rare as some people make them seem. A few boards are on Ebay right now with them. They feel nice, but not worth the price tag in my opinion.

    I really like them. Blue Alps are my favorite and that's why they're in my Kingsaver. Everyone will have an opinion on pricing and I've stated mine above. I think it's worth it if you can find them for relatively cheap.

    Yeah, I heard about your Kingsaver, and it sounds like a magnificent board. I actually ordered an Infinity keyboard earlier this afternoon, and I want to try to find a donor board for blue Alps in the meantime. If I can't find one, however, I'm harvesting green Alps from my ADDS 1010 board instead.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:16:22
    Any idea why my PC freezes on this BIOS screen when it boots up with my new keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71831.0) connected?

    As soon as I disconnect the keyboard, Windows loads immediately. While it's frozen, key presses do not register. A am using the TMK firmware. Is this a question for the TMK thread?  Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:20:25
    Quote from: Rose on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:16:22
    Any idea why my PC freezes on this BIOS screen when it boots up with my new keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71831.0) connected?

    As soon as I disconnect the keyboard, Windows loads immediately. While it's frozen, key presses do not register. A am using the TMK firmware. Is this a question for the TMK thread?  Thanks.

    On Gigabyte mobos that's about the time it runs "Init USB", probably waiting for a handshake response or isn't understanding your keyboard's response.

    I would update the bios and post in the firmware thread.

    Edit: you also want to disable bios logo so you can see what it's saying. There also might be some sort of switch in the bios to support legacy usb devices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Wed, 27 May 2015, 19:17:58
    Fixed! I went into the BIOS and poked around. The legacy USB option was already enabled but I disabled the logo and enabled something called 'ultra fast boot'. Now I don't see any BIOS screen at all when booting.  Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 27 May 2015, 19:41:22

    Quote from: Rose on Wed, 27 May 2015, 19:17:58
    Fixed! I went into the BIOS and poked around. The legacy USB option was already enabled but I disabled the logo and enabled something called 'ultra fast boot'. Now I don't see any BIOS screen at all when booting.  Thank you!

    Cool
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:45:19
    Quote from: Rose on Wed, 27 May 2015, 19:17:58
    Fixed! I went into the BIOS and poked around. The legacy USB option was already enabled but I disabled the logo and enabled something called 'ultra fast boot'. Now I don't see any BIOS screen at all when booting.  Thank you!

    I have had this happen 1 or 2 times with some of my boards.  I'll have to try this if it happens again.  Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:51:15
    Quote from: Rose on Wed, 27 May 2015, 19:17:58
    Fixed! I went into the BIOS and poked around. The legacy USB option was already enabled but I disabled the logo and enabled something called 'ultra fast boot'. Now I don't see any BIOS screen at all when booting.  Thank you!
    I love happy endings and easy fixes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:21:57
    I haven't checked on geekhack for a while and, I'm wondering for how much do vintage black switches go for nowadays
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:25:03
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:21:57
    I haven't checked on geekhack for a while and, I'm wondering for how much do vintage black switches go for nowadays

    You should ask that here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0

    But typically they have sold for ~$0.25-0.35/switch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:35:30
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:25:03
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:21:57
    I haven't checked on geekhack for a while and, I'm wondering for how much do vintage black switches go for nowadays

    You should ask that here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0

    But typically they have sold for ~$0.25-0.35/switch

    See the OP. This isn't the price check thread so please ask there. I'm strict about this because I don't want people using this as a way to get around the classified rules.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:39:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:35:30
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:25:03
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:21:57
    I haven't checked on geekhack for a while and, I'm wondering for how much do vintage black switches go for nowadays

    You should ask that here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0

    But typically they have sold for ~$0.25-0.35/switch

    See the OP. This isn't the price check thread so please ask there. I'm strict about this because I don't want people using this as a way to get around the classified rules.
    I'm sorry. I'll ask in the price check thread again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:54:11
    Gonna be taking apart about 240 Cherry clears soon I harvested off some old Cherry boards (I need to remove the diodes). Saw a bit of corrosion in 1 of the ones I've already taken apart (out of ~12). I was considering cleaning them while they are apart. Anyone have suggestions on the process? Do I remove the metal contacts? Just dish soap and water and shake it around a lot?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:57:45
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:04:29
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:54:11
    Gonna be taking apart about 240 Cherry clears soon I harvested off some old Cherry boards (I need to remove the diodes). Saw a bit of corrosion in 1 of the ones I've already taken apart (out of ~12). I was considering cleaning them while they are apart. Anyone have suggestions on the process? Do I remove the metal contacts? Just dish soap and water and shake it around a lot?

    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:57:45
    You can't remove the metal contact, and trying to do so may damage the switches beyond repair. Perhaps try a bit of high percentage alcohol and a qtip to clean any that appear to have any corrosion?

    That's what I use. High percentage isopropyl alcohol or Noxon Metal Polish. You could also try an ultrasonic cleaner. Or simply just tossing the corroded switches if you can't get them to work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:09:37
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 28 May 2015, 09:57:45
    You can't remove the metal contact, and trying to do so may damage the switches beyond repair. Perhaps try a bit of high percentage alcohol and a qtip to clean any that appear to have any corrosion?

    Not quite true, the contacts do come out. I know Exitfire swapped Cherry internals into Gateron housings for his Simply 60 build. Apparently they do come out pretty easily. It might be more difficult though for switches harvested from old boards because of solder remaining on the pins, and it probably wouldn't make them much easier to clean.


    If there are some switches that won't come clean and it causes trouble, you could always buy a few of another switch type and swap out the entire bottom housing, including contacts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:08:05
    Also does anyone have any open source cad files for a tkl case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:16:13
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    I might actually do this.... Anyways, what is recommended solution for cleaning switches, isopropyl / water mix?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:16:13
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    I might actually do this.... Anyways, what is recommended solution for cleaning switches, isopropyl / water mix?

    I just use 91% isopropyl and no water.

    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:08:05
    Also does anyone have any open source cad files for a tkl case?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.msg1019782#msg1019782

    Think it's litster's case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:21:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:16:13
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    I might actually do this.... Anyways, what is recommended solution for cleaning switches, isopropyl / water mix?

    I just use 91% isopropyl and no water.

    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:08:05
    Also does anyone have any open source cad files for a tkl case?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.msg1019782#msg1019782

    Think it's litster's case.

    awesome, I have >400 switches I want to clean so this is perfect
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: absyrd on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:21:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:16:13
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    I might actually do this.... Anyways, what is recommended solution for cleaning switches, isopropyl / water mix?

    I just use 91% isopropyl and no water.


    Yeah. 70% is too watery. 90% is available at any drug store, target, etc.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:24:09
    Quote from: absyrd on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:21:39
    Yeah. 70% is too watery. 90% is available at any drug store, target, etc.

    Yup, you can check your local grocery store in the First Aid section. That's where I get mine. Target, drug stores, Walmart, etc are also places to get some.

    Isopropyl is cheap and can clean a lot of things. I also use it to clean video game cartridges.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:01:59
    What IYO is the best 60% circuit board, the infinity one on massdrop, gh60, others?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:04:28
    Quote from: dnix on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:01:59
    What IYO is the best 60% circuit board, the infinity one on massdrop, gh60, others?

    I really liked the Ducky PCBs I've worked on so I think the Ducky Mini should have a really nice one. The GH60 Rev B I have is ok. Beastmask's stuff seem really nice but I'm a little sketchy on how to grab them. And I've heard the GON ones are nice. I've never seen an infinity PCB so I'm not sure.

    I'm coming from a perspective of modding and PCB thickness. I don't know what you're looking for when you say "the best".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:25:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:04:28
    Quote from: dnix on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:01:59
    What IYO is the best 60% circuit board, the infinity one on massdrop, gh60, others?

    I really liked the Ducky PCBs I've worked on so I think the Ducky Mini should have a really nice one. The GH60 Rev B I have is ok. Beastmask's stuff seem really nice but I'm a little sketchy on how to grab them. And I've heard the GON ones are nice. I've never seen an infinity PCB so I'm not sure.

    I'm coming from a perspective of modding and PCB thickness. I don't know what you're looking for when you say "the best".
    What do you mean Beastmask's PCBs are hard to grab? winkeyless is Monstermask/Beastmask
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:27:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:04:28
    Quote from: dnix on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:01:59
    What IYO is the best 60% circuit board, the infinity one on massdrop, gh60, others?

    I really liked the Ducky PCBs I've worked on so I think the Ducky Mini should have a really nice one. The GH60 Rev B I have is ok. Beastmask's stuff seem really nice but I'm a little sketchy on how to grab them. And I've heard the GON ones are nice. I've never seen an infinity PCB so I'm not sure.

    I'm coming from a perspective of modding and PCB thickness. I don't know what you're looking for when you say "the best".

    You're always so fast dude!
    Here's another question, is it possible to change one's gh username?   :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:52:12
    Quote from: dnix on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:27:35
    Here's another question, is it possible to change one's gh username?   :)

    PM the mods.

    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:25:42
    What do you mean Beastmask's PCBs are hard to grab? winkeyless is Monstermask/Beastmask

    I don't really keep up with the Korean game at all. I leave that to all you kids. Thanks for letting me know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:00:45

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:52:12
    Quote from: dnix on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:27:35
    Here's another question, is it possible to change one's gh username?   :)

    PM the mods.

    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:25:42
    What do you mean Beastmask's PCBs are hard to grab? winkeyless is Monstermask/Beastmask

    I don't really keep up with the Korean game at all. I leave that to all you kids. Thanks for letting me know.
    NP, if you need any help with his PCBs, I know about most of them and the differences
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:05:25
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:00:45

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:52:12
    Quote from: dnix on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:27:35
    Here's another question, is it possible to change one's gh username?   :)

    PM the mods.

    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:25:42
    What do you mean Beastmask's PCBs are hard to grab? winkeyless is Monstermask/Beastmask

    I don't really keep up with the Korean game at all. I leave that to all you kids. Thanks for letting me know.
    NP, if you need any help with his PCBs, I know about most of them and the differences
    You should make a thread :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:08:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:16:13
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    I might actually do this.... Anyways, what is recommended solution for cleaning switches, isopropyl / water mix?

    I just use 91% isopropyl and no water.

    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:08:05
    Also does anyone have any open source cad files for a tkl case?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.msg1019782#msg1019782

    Think it's litster's case.
    Thanks, but I was thinking about a cnc milled one. How much do you think it would cost for someone to make me a 3d model of a case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 18:37:09
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:08:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:16:13
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    I might actually do this.... Anyways, what is recommended solution for cleaning switches, isopropyl / water mix?

    I just use 91% isopropyl and no water.

    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:08:05
    Also does anyone have any open source cad files for a tkl case?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.msg1019782#msg1019782

    Think it's litster's case.
    Thanks, but I was thinking about a cnc milled one. How much do you think it would cost for someone to make me a 3d model of a case?

    Download and learn FreeCAD. It's simple once you learn it. And there are tons of docs and videos out there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:11:33
    I have found an MX black switch, or at least a switch with a black slider w/ an extremely light bottom out force, lighter than an MX red. Using nickels to measure the weight, it bottomed out at 35g. This is on an old keyboard that had a Big Ass Enter. Does anyone have any info on this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:19:50
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:11:33
    I have found an MX black switch, or at least a switch with a black slider w/ an extremely light bottom out force, lighter than an MX red. Using nickels to measure the weight, it bottomed out at 35g. This is on an old keyboard that had a Big Ass Enter. Does anyone have any info on this?

    I believe all Cherry MX switches were black at one point. They didn't start color-coding them until later. Maybe this set is old enough for that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:34:58
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:19:50
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:11:33
    I have found an MX black switch, or at least a switch with a black slider w/ an extremely light bottom out force, lighter than an MX red. Using nickels to measure the weight, it bottomed out at 35g. This is on an old keyboard that had a Big Ass Enter. Does anyone have any info on this?

    I believe all Cherry MX switches were black at one point. They didn't start color-coding them until later. Maybe this set is old enough for that?
    It is, which intrigues me more, as it still is a weight I have never seen before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:41:38
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:34:58
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:19:50
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:11:33
    I have found an MX black switch, or at least a switch with a black slider w/ an extremely light bottom out force, lighter than an MX red. Using nickels to measure the weight, it bottomed out at 35g. This is on an old keyboard that had a Big Ass Enter. Does anyone have any info on this?

    I believe all Cherry MX switches were black at one point. They didn't start color-coding them until later. Maybe this set is old enough for that?
    It is, which intrigues me more, as it still is a weight I have never seen before.

    Sounds like they're red-equivalents, softened slightly over time.

    Do you like them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:47:06
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:41:38
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:34:58
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:19:50
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:11:33
    I have found an MX black switch, or at least a switch with a black slider w/ an extremely light bottom out force, lighter than an MX red. Using nickels to measure the weight, it bottomed out at 35g. This is on an old keyboard that had a Big Ass Enter. Does anyone have any info on this?

    I believe all Cherry MX switches were black at one point. They didn't start color-coding them until later. Maybe this set is old enough for that?
    It is, which intrigues me more, as it still is a weight I have never seen before.

    Sounds like they're red-equivalents, softened slightly over time.

    Do you like them?
    Yeah, but I wouldn't put all of them on a board, maybe when I desolder this one I will get a TechKeys 1u and throw it on there for a macro
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 28 May 2015, 21:29:13
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:08:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:16:13
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    I might actually do this.... Anyways, what is recommended solution for cleaning switches, isopropyl / water mix?

    I just use 91% isopropyl and no water.

    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:08:05
    Also does anyone have any open source cad files for a tkl case?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.msg1019782#msg1019782

    Think it's litster's case.
    Thanks, but I was thinking about a cnc milled one. How much do you think it would cost for someone to make me a 3d model of a case?

    A lot, especially if they have to prototype it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Fri, 29 May 2015, 02:09:38
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 28 May 2015, 21:29:13
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:08:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:16:13
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    I might actually do this.... Anyways, what is recommended solution for cleaning switches, isopropyl / water mix?

    I just use 91% isopropyl and no water.

    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:08:05
    Also does anyone have any open source cad files for a tkl case?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.msg1019782#msg1019782

    Think it's litster's case.
    Thanks, but I was thinking about a cnc milled one. How much do you think it would cost for someone to make me a 3d model of a case?

    A lot, especially if they have to prototype it.
    Well that's the point. I only need cad files because my friend can machine it for me for free.

    link=topic=40501.msg1762017#msg1762017 date=1432856229]
    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:08:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 14:16:13
    Quote from: greath on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:33:38
    Alright, 91% iso it is.

    And since I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, I think I'll try it with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1DtY2VwSyY&t=1m21s)

    LOL  :))
    I might actually do this.... Anyways, what is recommended solution for cleaning switches, isopropyl / water mix?

    I just use 91% isopropyl and no water.

    Quote from: llovro on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:08:05
    Also does anyone have any open source cad files for a tkl case?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744.msg1019782#msg1019782

    Think it's litster's case.
    Thanks, but I was thinking about a cnc milled one. How much do you think it would cost for someone to make me a 3d model of a case?
    Quote
    Download and learn FreeCAD. It's simple once you learn it. And there are tons of docs and videos out there.
    Well I dont know if its worth to learn how to work in freecad since I would use it only for this keyboard, or maybe I will give it a try since its summer break. Do you have any particular tutorials that you found useful for making a keyboard case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 30 May 2015, 16:48:34
    Concerning this GB
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71212.0

    Resistors are for leds right?  so if Im not going to use leds i don't need resistors?  would this pcb fit in a kul case?  or in a tex aluminum case? where would i find a wkeyless plate for this if it wouldn't be included?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:05:50
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 30 May 2015, 16:48:34
    Concerning this GB
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71212.0

    1) Resistors are for leds right?  so if Im not going to use leds i don't need resistors? 
    2) would this pcb fit in a kul case?  or in a tex aluminum case?
    2) where would i find a wkeyless plate for this if it wouldn't be included?

    1) No you need them for the keyboard to work. I'm not sure. I think the matrix needs resistors diodes and I believe they're needed for KRO. You can read this wonderful blog from Komar to understand how diodes (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/) work within the keyboard matrix. Also look at Step 8 in this build log (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47093.0). You can see how the KMAC PCB has a silkscreen instructing the builder to add diodes for every switch.

    2) I'm going to guess no for KUL and stock Filco case compatibility. Look at this picture of a Filco TKL case (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--MFnEbAOXFA/UBhOP_C1aLI/AAAAAAAAAmk/WP3_opVwiWk/w1177-h883-no/IMG_0903.JPG) (from here (https://plus.google.com/photos/+L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3Monda/albums/5771448088610053457)) and this picture of a KUL case (http://i.imgur.com/6aXYVY5.png) (from here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59116.0)). See those little mounting standoffs? The PCB needs to accomodate them. You can see how the PCBs do that here for the KUL (http://i.imgur.com/lFykRFx.png) and here for the Filco (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lgXnsmXJBro/UBhNoW4-fvI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/Iq1h1j88Vcc/w1177-h883-no/IMG_0870.JPG). See how there's holes in the PCB? Now compare these PCBs to the KMAC one (http://webwit.nl/input/kmac/5.jpg) (from here (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/kmac-titanium-t2150.html)). No holes for the standoffs right? So I think the PCB won't fit correctly. That being said I've never tried it myself.

    Now for the Vortex aluminum case? It won't fit either because of the placement of the USB port. Look at 9:09 in WFD's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woEWMwLu10I). You can clearly see there's a difference in the USB location of the Vortex TKL Filco case versus the KMAC case.

    Finally for the TEX aluminum case, I think there's an issue with the USB port again. But I can't seem to find a picture of the bottom of the TEX case. However, if it fits the Filco PCB, I'm going to guess there's some standoffs. Also I don't know if the PCB sizes are the same. I don't have one to measure unfortunately.

    3) Use swill's plate tool and get one made for yourself. There's no ready source of TKL plates as far as I know. Maybe GON or Winkeyless (The Korean Maker) have them but the shipping from Korea would be pricey. I don't really know of a currently stocked source with TKL plates though.

    Edited to reflect this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1764064#msg1764064).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:13:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:05:50
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 30 May 2015, 16:48:34
    Concerning this GB
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71212.0

    1) Resistors are for leds right?  so if Im not going to use leds i don't need resistors? 
    2) would this pcb fit in a kul case?  or in a tex aluminum case?
    2) where would i find a wkeyless plate for this if it wouldn't be included?

    1) No you need them for the keyboard to work. I think the matrix needs resistors and I believe they're needed for KRO. You can read this wonderful blog from Komar to understand how resistors (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/) work within the keyboard matrix. Also look at Step 8 in this build log (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47093.0). You can see how the KMAC PCB has a silkscreen instructing the builder to add resistors for every switch.

    2) I'm going to guess no for KUL and stock Filco case compatibility. Look at this picture of a Filco TKL case (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--MFnEbAOXFA/UBhOP_C1aLI/AAAAAAAAAmk/WP3_opVwiWk/w1177-h883-no/IMG_0903.JPG) (from here (https://plus.google.com/photos/+L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3Monda/albums/5771448088610053457)) and this picture of a KUL case (http://i.imgur.com/6aXYVY5.png) (from here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59116.0)). See those little mounting standoffs? The PCB needs to accomodate them. You can see how the PCBs do that here for the KUL (http://i.imgur.com/lFykRFx.png) and here for the Filco (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lgXnsmXJBro/UBhNoW4-fvI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/Iq1h1j88Vcc/w1177-h883-no/IMG_0870.JPG). See how there's holes in the PCB? Now compare these PCBs to the KMAC one (http://webwit.nl/input/kmac/5.jpg) (from here (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/kmac-titanium-t2150.html)). No holes for the standoffs right? So I think the PCB won't fit correctly. That being said I've never tried it myself.

    Now for the Vortex aluminum case? It won't fit either because of the placement of the USB port. Look at 9:09 in WFD's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woEWMwLu10I). You can clearly see there's a difference in the USB location of the Vortex TKL Filco case versus the KMAC case.

    Finally for the TEX aluminum case, I think there's an issue with the USB port again. But I can't seem to find a picture of the bottom of the TEX case. However, if it fits the Filco PCB, I'm going to guess there's some standoffs. Also I don't know if the PCB sizes are the same. I don't have one to measure unfortunately.

    3) Use swill's plate tool and get one made for yourself. There's no ready source of TKL plates as far as I know. Maybe GON or Winkeyless (The Korean Maker) have them but the shipping from Korea would be pricey. I don't really know of a currently stocked source with TKL plates though.
    Winkeyless doesn't have readily available plates, and doesn't do any aluminum, but if you email him through the website you could probably get just an acrylic plate, but I am not sure if it would work with the KMAC pcb that is being made unless monstermask made it himself
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:15:05
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:13:46
    Winkeyless doesn't have readily available plates, and doesn't do any aluminum, but if you email him through the website you could probably get just an acrylic plate, but I am not sure if it would work with the KMAC pcb that is being made unless monstermask made it himself

    I'm not going to lie. After my experience with acrylic plates, I'm hesitant to recommend them to people. Never felt like they had enough support and stability for my tastes.

    And I really need to poke around some of these sites and figure out what they do and don't have.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:17:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:15:05
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:13:46
    Winkeyless doesn't have readily available plates, and doesn't do any aluminum, but if you email him through the website you could probably get just an acrylic plate, but I am not sure if it would work with the KMAC pcb that is being made unless monstermask made it himself

    I'm not going to lie. After my experience with acrylic plates, I'm hesitant to recommend them to people. Never felt like they had enough support and stability for my tastes.
    Yeah, I feel you on that one. His are nice if you get one of his boards though because it is 2 layers of acrylic plate so I felt no flex at all and it felt solid like a metal plate and didn't flex like a single layer of acrylic plate, but felt softer than a metal plate
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:19:02
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:19:50
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:11:33
    I have found an MX black switch, or at least a switch with a black slider w/ an extremely light bottom out force, lighter than an MX red. Using nickels to measure the weight, it bottomed out at 35g. This is on an old keyboard that had a Big Ass Enter. Does anyone have any info on this?

    I believe all Cherry MX switches were black at one point. They didn't start color-coding them until later. Maybe this set is old enough for that?

    I don't think you're right about the MX switches being black at one point. They were pigment free I believe at one point. So they looked like MX Clears.

    And I wonder if it's just a really worn switch on the enter key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:21:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:19:02
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:19:50
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Thu, 28 May 2015, 20:11:33
    I have found an MX black switch, or at least a switch with a black slider w/ an extremely light bottom out force, lighter than an MX red. Using nickels to measure the weight, it bottomed out at 35g. This is on an old keyboard that had a Big Ass Enter. Does anyone have any info on this?

    I believe all Cherry MX switches were black at one point. They didn't start color-coding them until later. Maybe this set is old enough for that?

    I don't think you're right about the MX switches being black at one point. They were pigment free I believe at one point. So they looked like MX Clears.

    And I wonder if it's just a really worn switch on the enter key.
    I marked it with silver sharpie so when I desolder it I can open it up and compare the spring to another spring
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:22:51
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:21:56
    I marked it with silver sharpie so when I desolder it I can open it up and compare the spring to another spring

    Please take careful pictures of the slider and housing too! Oh and report back. You have a job to do now. Two even! Don't let me down mang ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:23:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:22:51
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:21:56
    I marked it with silver sharpie so when I desolder it I can open it up and compare the spring to another spring

    Please take careful pictures of the slider and housing too! Oh and report back. You have a job to do now. Two even! Don't let me down mang ;)
    Yep! I need to wait for my solder sucker to get here as the board it is on does not want to transfer to the solder braid
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 30 May 2015, 20:02:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:05:50
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 30 May 2015, 16:48:34
    Concerning this GB
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71212.0

    1) Resistors are for leds right?  so if Im not going to use leds i don't need resistors? 
    2) would this pcb fit in a kul case?  or in a tex aluminum case?
    2) where would i find a wkeyless plate for this if it wouldn't be included?

    1) No you need them for the keyboard to work. I think the matrix needs resistors and I believe they're needed for KRO. You can read this wonderful blog from Komar to understand how resistors (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/) work within the keyboard matrix. Also look at Step 8 in this build log (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47093.0). You can see how the KMAC PCB has a silkscreen instructing the builder to add resistors for every switch.

    I think you've got diodes and resistors mixed up there. That blog post mentions pullup resistors, but I'm almost certain that those would be included in the controller anyway.

    The linked KMAC PCB has pads for diodes (not resistors) as well. The silkscreen there is for in-switch diodes (as mentioned in step 2 of the same build log), and there's an additional silkscreen below some of the switches for LEDs it looks like. You can tell they're diodes because the screen has a band indicating direction. Diodes have a direction, resistors do not. I don't actually see any resistors on that PCB, which surprises me. Usually LEDs want resistors with them. Maybe they're wired in series? Maybe SMT resistors are presoldered on the back?


    That said, I don't know necessarily how it applies to that GB. Maybe there is a resistor or two that's necessary on that particular board for some reason (although I doubt it).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 20:08:53
    Quote from: user 18 on Sat, 30 May 2015, 20:02:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:05:50
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 30 May 2015, 16:48:34
    Concerning this GB
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71212.0

    1) Resistors are for leds right?  so if Im not going to use leds i don't need resistors? 
    2) would this pcb fit in a kul case?  or in a tex aluminum case?
    2) where would i find a wkeyless plate for this if it wouldn't be included?

    1) No you need them for the keyboard to work. I think the matrix needs resistors and I believe they're needed for KRO. You can read this wonderful blog from Komar to understand how resistors (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/) work within the keyboard matrix. Also look at Step 8 in this build log (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47093.0). You can see how the KMAC PCB has a silkscreen instructing the builder to add resistors for every switch.

    I think you've got diodes and resistors mixed up there. That blog post mentions pullup resistors, but I'm almost certain that those would be included in the controller anyway.

    The linked KMAC PCB has pads for diodes (not resistors) as well. The silkscreen there is for in-switch diodes (as mentioned in step 2 of the same build log), and there's an additional silkscreen below some of the switches for LEDs it looks like. You can tell they're diodes because the screen has a band indicating direction. Diodes have a direction, resistors do not. I don't actually see any resistors on that PCB, which surprises me. Usually LEDs want resistors with them. Maybe they're wired in series? Maybe SMT resistors are presoldered on the back?


    That said, I don't know necessarily how it applies to that GB. Maybe there is a resistor or two that's necessary on that particular board for some reason (although I doubt it).

    Yup, I'm an idiot and confused resistors and diodes :(. The KMAC PCB does need resistors because the Function row, WASD cluster, locks, and Left control can have LEDs in them. There are places for them on the PCB. Look carefully beneath the function row.

    Could the board work without resistors?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 30 May 2015, 20:55:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 20:08:53
    Quote from: user 18 on Sat, 30 May 2015, 20:02:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:05:50
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 30 May 2015, 16:48:34
    Concerning this GB
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71212.0

    1) Resistors are for leds right?  so if Im not going to use leds i don't need resistors? 
    2) would this pcb fit in a kul case?  or in a tex aluminum case?
    2) where would i find a wkeyless plate for this if it wouldn't be included?

    1) No you need them for the keyboard to work. I think the matrix needs resistors and I believe they're needed for KRO. You can read this wonderful blog from Komar to understand how resistors (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/) work within the keyboard matrix. Also look at Step 8 in this build log (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47093.0). You can see how the KMAC PCB has a silkscreen instructing the builder to add resistors for every switch.

    I think you've got diodes and resistors mixed up there. That blog post mentions pullup resistors, but I'm almost certain that those would be included in the controller anyway.

    The linked KMAC PCB has pads for diodes (not resistors) as well. The silkscreen there is for in-switch diodes (as mentioned in step 2 of the same build log), and there's an additional silkscreen below some of the switches for LEDs it looks like. You can tell they're diodes because the screen has a band indicating direction. Diodes have a direction, resistors do not. I don't actually see any resistors on that PCB, which surprises me. Usually LEDs want resistors with them. Maybe they're wired in series? Maybe SMT resistors are presoldered on the back?


    That said, I don't know necessarily how it applies to that GB. Maybe there is a resistor or two that's necessary on that particular board for some reason (although I doubt it).

    Yup, I'm an idiot and confused resistors and diodes :(. The KMAC PCB does need resistors because the Function row, WASD cluster, locks, and Left control can have LEDs in them. There are places for them on the PCB. Look carefully beneath the function row.

    Could the board work without resistors?

    I would think so, you just probably wouldn't be able to run the LEDs. I don't know of any other reason a simple keyboard PCB needs resistors other than for LEDs and the pull-ups, and to the best of my knowledge, I've never come across one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sun, 31 May 2015, 16:19:17
    Is there an active PS2 to usb convertor that would also allow to remap keys add layers and other things you can do on a pcb or teensy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sun, 31 May 2015, 16:25:52
    Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 31 May 2015, 16:19:17
    Is there an active PS2 to usb convertor that would also allow to remap keys add layers and other things you can do on a pcb or teensy?

    I think Soarer's converter can be used inline like that with PS/2 inputs. Not sure exactly what the software features are though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sun, 31 May 2015, 17:08:50
    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 31 May 2015, 16:25:52
    Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 31 May 2015, 16:19:17
    Is there an active PS2 to usb convertor that would also allow to remap keys add layers and other things you can do on a pcb or teensy?

    I think Soarer's converter can be used inline like that with PS/2 inputs. Not sure exactly what the software features are though.

    Very interesting I'll look into it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 31 May 2015, 18:11:05
    Thx for answers, always nice to see how helpful this community is.   

    So it looks like that getting a TKL alu is really hard.  I should have gotten an orion v2 (I'd built it ledless though, maybe not the best board to buy for a ledless build since it's so centered on leds).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:20:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 20:08:53
    Quote from: user 18 on Sat, 30 May 2015, 20:02:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:05:50
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 30 May 2015, 16:48:34
    Concerning this GB
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71212.0

    1) Resistors are for leds right?  so if Im not going to use leds i don't need resistors? 
    2) would this pcb fit in a kul case?  or in a tex aluminum case?
    2) where would i find a wkeyless plate for this if it wouldn't be included?

    1) No you need them for the keyboard to work. I think the matrix needs resistors and I believe they're needed for KRO. You can read this wonderful blog from Komar to understand how resistors (http://blog.komar.be/how-to-make-a-keyboard-the-matrix/) work within the keyboard matrix. Also look at Step 8 in this build log (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47093.0). You can see how the KMAC PCB has a silkscreen instructing the builder to add resistors for every switch.

    I think you've got diodes and resistors mixed up there. That blog post mentions pullup resistors, but I'm almost certain that those would be included in the controller anyway.

    The linked KMAC PCB has pads for diodes (not resistors) as well. The silkscreen there is for in-switch diodes (as mentioned in step 2 of the same build log), and there's an additional silkscreen below some of the switches for LEDs it looks like. You can tell they're diodes because the screen has a band indicating direction. Diodes have a direction, resistors do not. I don't actually see any resistors on that PCB, which surprises me. Usually LEDs want resistors with them. Maybe they're wired in series? Maybe SMT resistors are presoldered on the back?


    That said, I don't know necessarily how it applies to that GB. Maybe there is a resistor or two that's necessary on that particular board for some reason (although I doubt it).

    Yup, I'm an idiot and confused resistors and diodes :(. The KMAC PCB does need resistors because the Function row, WASD cluster, locks, and Left control can have LEDs in them. There are places for them on the PCB. Look carefully beneath the function row.

    Could the board work without resistors?
    Eh, diodes are pretty much just one-way, infinity-ohm resistors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: madhias on Mon, 01 June 2015, 05:50:46
    I am searching for a 60% aluminum plate (colored option would be nice) and a 60% PCB.

    For the PCB I found sprit's 60%, but for the plate he has only acrylic and polycarbonat plates. Nice acrylic plates I found at GONs shop, but I am not sure if I will get the plate then in about 1-2 months. Is there anywhere else a place to buy 60% aluminum plates?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 01 June 2015, 06:46:36
    Quote from: madhias on Mon, 01 June 2015, 05:50:46
    I am searching for a 60% aluminum plate (colored option would be nice) and a 60% PCB.

    For the PCB I found sprit's 60%, but for the plate he has only acrylic and polycarbonat plates. Nice acrylic plates I found at GONs shop, but I am not sure if I will get the plate then in about 1-2 months. Is there anywhere else a place to buy 60% aluminum plates?
    Imsto has some occasionally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Mon, 01 June 2015, 07:08:55
    Quote from: madhias on Mon, 01 June 2015, 05:50:46
    I am searching for a 60% aluminum plate (colored option would be nice) and a 60% PCB.

    For the PCB I found sprit's 60%, but for the plate he has only acrylic and polycarbonat plates. Nice acrylic plates I found at GONs shop, but I am not sure if I will get the plate then in about 1-2 months. Is there anywhere else a place to buy 60% aluminum plates?

    For plate there's a GB : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71034.0
    Maybe closed, not sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: madhias on Mon, 01 June 2015, 09:16:25
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 01 June 2015, 06:46:36
    Quote from: madhias on Mon, 01 June 2015, 05:50:46
    I am searching for a 60% aluminum plate (colored option would be nice) and a 60% PCB.

    For the PCB I found sprit's 60%, but for the plate he has only acrylic and polycarbonat plates. Nice acrylic plates I found at GONs shop, but I am not sure if I will get the plate then in about 1-2 months. Is there anywhere else a place to buy 60% aluminum plates?
    Imsto has some occasionally.

    Yep, forgot about imsto, seem to be in stock there. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:24:02
    I'm desoldering some vintage cherry mx blues and noticed this bridge wire going through the switch. The switch has a diode marking but no diode in the switch, just curious but what was this wire bridge used for?

    (http://i.imgur.com/u5jN1Sw.jpg?1)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:54:43
    what size of torx screwdriver do I need to open this stupid WEY

    or can I just drill it out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:59:56
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:24:02
    I'm desoldering some vintage cherry mx blues and noticed this bridge wire going through the switch. The switch has a diode marking but no diode in the switch, just curious but what was this wire bridge used for?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/u5jN1Sw.jpg?1)


    As you can see on the PCB, the in-switch jumper wires connected the traces on the board! Cherry loved to use these for some reason. If the controller supported it, you could have NKRO if those were diodes instead of jumpers, but the controller won't support NKRO, AFAIK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 11:16:54
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:59:56
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:24:02
    I'm desoldering some vintage cherry mx blues and noticed this bridge wire going through the switch. The switch has a diode marking but no diode in the switch, just curious but what was this wire bridge used for?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/u5jN1Sw.jpg?1)


    As you can see on the PCB, the in-switch jumper wires connected the traces on the board! Cherry loved to use these for some reason. If the controller supported it, you could have NKRO if those were diodes instead of jumpers, but the controller won't support NKRO, AFAIK.

    Gotcha! Thanks mang =)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Mon, 01 June 2015, 11:41:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:54:43
    what size of torx screwdriver do I need to open this stupid WEY

    or can I just drill it out?
    I'll check a bit later on, I put mine back together yesterday and I'm pretty sure I still have the bit out.

    edit - T5

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:43:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.

    Nice, which resistors did you use if you don't mind me asking? Do you know the shortcut commands to control the led's? thanks again
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:49:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:43:55
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.


    1) Nice, which resistors did you use if you don't mind me asking?
    2) Do you know the shortcut commands to control the led's? thanks again

    1) I used these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF8060Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF8060V) as recommended by Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.2).

    2) These are the Function and LED controls (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1552313#msg1552313) that infiniti helped me with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:56:11
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:49:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:43:55
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.


    1) Nice, which resistors did you use if you don't mind me asking?
    2) Do you know the shortcut commands to control the led's? thanks again

    1) I used these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF8060Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF8060V) as recommended by Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.2).

    2) These are the Function and LED controls (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1552313#msg1552313) that infiniti helped me with.

    thanks again bud!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:01:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:49:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:43:55
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.


    1) Nice, which resistors did you use if you don't mind me asking?
    2) Do you know the shortcut commands to control the led's? thanks again

    1) I used these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF8060Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF8060V) as recommended by Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.2).

    2) These are the Function and LED controls (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1552313#msg1552313) that infiniti helped me with.
    what about diodes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:04:40
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:01:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:49:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:43:55
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.


    1) Nice, which resistors did you use if you don't mind me asking?
    2) Do you know the shortcut commands to control the led's? thanks again

    1) I used these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF8060Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF8060V) as recommended by Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.2).

    2) These are the Function and LED controls (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1552313#msg1552313) that infiniti helped me with.
    what about diodes?

    You need diodes? Here, buy 1000 of them for $12.30 (http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/1N4148/1N4148FS-ND). :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:05:02
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:01:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:49:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:43:55
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.


    1) Nice, which resistors did you use if you don't mind me asking?
    2) Do you know the shortcut commands to control the led's? thanks again

    1) I used these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF8060Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF8060V) as recommended by Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.2).

    2) These are the Function and LED controls (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1552313#msg1552313) that infiniti helped me with.
    what about diodes?

    Just the standard through hole diodes, the 1N4148 ones. From Mouser too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:07:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:05:02
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:01:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:49:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:43:55
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.


    1) Nice, which resistors did you use if you don't mind me asking?
    2) Do you know the shortcut commands to control the led's? thanks again

    1) I used these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF8060Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF8060V) as recommended by Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.2).

    2) These are the Function and LED controls (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1552313#msg1552313) that infiniti helped me with.
    what about diodes?

    Just the standard through hole diodes, the 1N4148 ones. From Mouser too.
    how did you solder these on the boards? Did the through-holes go through the switches, or were they on the opposite end, and in that case did it interfere with the LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:15:43
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:07:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:05:02
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:01:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:49:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:43:55
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.


    1) Nice, which resistors did you use if you don't mind me asking?
    2) Do you know the shortcut commands to control the led's? thanks again

    1) I used these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF8060Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF8060V) as recommended by Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.2).

    2) These are the Function and LED controls (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1552313#msg1552313) that infiniti helped me with.
    what about diodes?

    Just the standard through hole diodes, the 1N4148 ones. From Mouser too.
    how did you solder these on the boards? Did the through-holes go through the switches, or were they on the opposite end, and in that case did it interfere with the LEDs?

    I had Drhubblephd build this so I'm trying to remember now. He may have just cut the 1N1418 diodes short and soldered them to the SMD hookups. Honestly I'm not sure. I'll ask.

    Sorry for the confusion. I found the order in my email and read it too quickly. These are the diodes I bought for my Leeku (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Diodes-Incorporated/1N4148W-7-F/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtoHjESLttvkiKikX2YhTL0GOrSkzAUFgM%3d).

    Had SMD resistors and diodes. Here's a picture of them assembled just in case

    (http://i.imgur.com/YxUVxNZ.jpg)

    Again, thank you drhubblephd for building it for me. Still haven't taught myself to SMD solder yet.


    Also digi, I didn't flash my firmware on the PCB but in case you do need it, here's a post from danielucf (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.msg1617515#msg1617515) where he figured it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:26:43
    Here is video where GON shows how he solders smd components, he makes it look easy and he also has the perfect size chisel tip. Hopefully mine is close to that size. I also think he pre-soldered the pads:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7t9p9QbYc&t=1m12s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7t9p9QbYc&t=1m12s)

    I'm going to solder the through-hole diodes and then use smd resistors for the led's, should be super fun. : :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:28:26
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:26:43
    Here is video where GON shows how he solders smd components, he makes it look easy and he also has the perfect size chisel tip. Hopefully mine is close to that size. I also think he pre-soldered the pads:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7t9p9QbYc&t=1m12s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7t9p9QbYc&t=1m12s)

    I'm going to solder the through-hole diodes and then use smd resistors for the led's, should be super fun. : :))

    If you use through hole diodes and solder them to the back of the PCB, you will cover the pads for the LEDs.

    If you install the through hole diodes inside the switches, you are all good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:29:34
    Yeah just to clarify again, I messed up reading my order form. I used smd diodes and resistors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:29:41
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:28:26
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:26:43
    Here is video where GON shows how he solders smd components, he makes it look easy and he also has the perfect size chisel tip. Hopefully mine is close to that size. I also think he pre-soldered the pads:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7t9p9QbYc&t=1m12s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z7t9p9QbYc&t=1m12s)

    I'm going to solder the through-hole diodes and then use smd resistors for the led's, should be super fun. : :))

    If you use through hole diodes and solder them to the back of the PCB, you will cover the pads for the LEDs.

    If you install the through hole diodes inside the switches, you are all good.

    thank you for that. darn, now I have to take all these switch covers off, lol.

    Why would they design the Leeku PCB like that where it covers the pads to the led's if you use through-hole diodes? What were they thinking..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:46:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:15:43
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:07:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:05:02
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:01:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:49:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:43:55
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:41:28
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:18:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:17:20
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:34:37
    Getting ready to do a Red-Line Leeku 1800 PCB build and I'm curious if I'll need to flash the firmware to get the board working? The only URL I could find on here is an invalid link. Thanks
    Mine worked just as is. Didn't flash firmware.

    Thanks CPT, did you do LED's/Resistors too or just switches & diodes?

    Yup, did full resistors and LEDs.


    1) Nice, which resistors did you use if you don't mind me asking?
    2) Do you know the shortcut commands to control the led's? thanks again

    1) I used these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF8060Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF8060V) as recommended by Photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.2).

    2) These are the Function and LED controls (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1552313#msg1552313) that infiniti helped me with.
    what about diodes?

    Just the standard through hole diodes, the 1N4148 ones. From Mouser too.
    how did you solder these on the boards? Did the through-holes go through the switches, or were they on the opposite end, and in that case did it interfere with the LEDs?

    I had Drhubblephd build this so I'm trying to remember now. He may have just cut the 1N1418 diodes short and soldered them to the SMD hookups. Honestly I'm not sure. I'll ask.

    Sorry for the confusion. I found the order in my email and read it too quickly. These are the diodes I bought for my Leeku (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Diodes-Incorporated/1N4148W-7-F/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtoHjESLttvkiKikX2YhTL0GOrSkzAUFgM%3d).

    Had SMD resistors and diodes. Here's a picture of them assembled just in case

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/YxUVxNZ.jpg)


    Again, thank you drhubblephd for building it for me. Still haven't taught myself to SMD solder yet.


    Also digi, I didn't flash my firmware on the PCB but in case you do need it, here's a post from danielucf (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.msg1617515#msg1617515) where he figured it out.
    Ah, thanks! And I am a noob when it comes to resistors, but would the 820 work for any LED, even if some are dim?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:12:34
    Does mouser have any purple 2x3x4 leds? I can't find any, or any 2x3x4 leds for that matter?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:15:03
    Quote from: digi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:12:34
    Does mouser have any purple 2x3x4 leds? I can't find any, or any 2x3x4 leds for that matter?

    I don't think so. Check the FAQ in the OP of this thread for links to them, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:55:48
    I've been looking into putting a Phantom in my QFR. Are there any plate mounts with special cutouts, that will fit, available on the market? If not, are there any PCB's with PCB-mounts?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:56:45
    Quote from: Acerk on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:55:48
    I've been looking into putting a Phantom in my QFR. Are there any plate mounts with special cutouts, that will fit, available on the market? If not, are there any PCB's with PCB-mounts?

    I'm not following your question. Are you looking for a plate? What exactly do you mean by "plate mounts" and "PCB mounts"?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:09:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:56:45
    I'm not following your question. Are you looking for a plate? What exactly do you mean by "plate mounts" and "PCB mounts"?
    Sorry about that. Basically, I want to be able to swap switch tops on my keyboard, and I don't know if there's any place to purchase a fitting plate mount for that at the moment. I also wondered whether there were any PCB's that have holes to mount the switches available.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:13:36
    Quote from: Acerk on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:09:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:56:45
    I'm not following your question. Are you looking for a plate? What exactly do you mean by "plate mounts" and "PCB mounts"?
    Sorry about that. Basically, I want to be able to swap switch tops on my keyboard, and I don't know if there's any place to purchase a fitting plate mount for that at the moment. I also wondered whether there were any PCB's that have holes to mount the switches available.

    What you're looking for is called a plate and there are no readily available sources of TKL plates that I know of at the moment. Plate mounted typically implies a type of MX switch (Plate mount vs PCB mount). You can always try using swill's plate tool and seeing if a local machine shop will cut one for you.

    There are plenty of PCBs which will allow PCB mounted switches. Unfortunately I don't know any custom PCBs off the top of my head which are PCB mounted. I honestly only care about keyboards with plates in them and I'm not picky either way about the PCBs. You'll have to look and see if the ones you find have the proper holes in them. If the PCB you find have that hole pattern (http://i.imgur.com/cNxBgNI.jpg) (from photekq (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1503655#msg1503655)), it will allow for PCB mounted switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:36:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:13:36
    What you're looking for is called a plate and there are no readily available sources of TKL plates that I know of at the moment. Plate mounted typically implies a type of MX switch (Plate mount vs PCB mount). You can always try using swill's plate tool and seeing if a local machine shop will cut one for you.

    There are plenty of PCBs which will allow PCB mounted switches. Unfortunately I don't know any custom PCBs off the top of my head which are PCB mounted. I honestly only care about keyboards with plates in them and I'm not picky either way about the PCBs. You'll have to look and see if the ones you find have the proper holes in them. If the PCB you find have that hole pattern (http://i.imgur.com/cNxBgNI.jpg) (from photekq (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1503655#msg1503655)), it will allow for PCB mounted switches.
    Thanks for the help. I think based on this, it's simpler to try my luck with a PCB-mount.

    If anyone knows where I can get my hand on a PCB for QFR, let me know. Will any of the Gon Nerd TKL fit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Tue, 02 June 2015, 11:25:31
    Does adding shelf liner inside the case work as well for Topre boards as it does for MX?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:10:25
    Are there better springs to put into vintage Cherry MX blues while I have the switches apart or will that defeat the purpose of the "vintage" feel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:56:51
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:10:25
    Are there better springs to put into vintage Cherry MX blues while I have the switches apart or will that defeat the purpose of the "vintage" feel?

    I don't want to do the jailhouse mod because I like a hard bottoming out (that's what she said).  :))
    I think that negates the purpose of so called vintage or worn switches. I think that the spring, stem, and housing all work together to make the switches feel the way they do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:44:13
    simple question :-)

    Is "force" of korean springs (e. g. 60g) measured by A) bottoming out the switch, or by B) compressing the spring to its half length?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:45:54
    Quote from: Eszett on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:44:13
    simple question :-)

    Is "force" of korean springs (e. g. 60g) measured by A) bottoming out the switch, or by B) compressing the spring to its half length?

    Activation vs bottoming out

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:45:54
    Quote from: Eszett on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:44:13
    simple question :-)

    Is "force" of korean springs (e. g. 60g) measured by A) bottoming out the switch, or by B) compressing the spring to its half length?

    It's the force at the actuation point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:54:59
    I thought actuation force, is what Cherry uses as "calculation basis" for their switches; while korean springs are measured otherwise?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:59:07
    Quote from: Eszett on Tue, 02 June 2015, 16:54:59
    I thought actuation force, is what Cherry uses as "calculation basis" for their switches; while korean springs are measured otherwise?

    Cherry is measured at bottom out. Korean springs are measured at actuation force.

    Wait a second, I'm confusing myself. Let me doublecheck

    Ok yes I confused myself. Cherry is at actuation force. Korean is at bottom out. (From here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44749.msg930135#msg930135))

    Rkinze did a comparison of Cherry and Korean springs (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0) all at bottom out. That article is also linked in the OP.

    Also this thread correlates (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38410.0) what I said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Tue, 02 June 2015, 17:02:32
    Yes, Captain, it's abit confusing because I've heard different opionions so far.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Tue, 02 June 2015, 17:06:03
    @Captain Alright, got it! And thanks for linking the Article of Rkinzw, I will dive into that ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 02 June 2015, 21:26:31
    Quote from: greath on Tue, 02 June 2015, 11:25:31
    Does adding shelf liner inside the case work as well for Topre boards as it does for MX?

    I was under the impression that shelf liner serves to reduce resonance. If your Topre board sounds hollow or pings (not sure that it could ping) then yeah I think it would.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Tue, 02 June 2015, 21:34:01
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 02 June 2015, 21:26:31
    Quote from: greath on Tue, 02 June 2015, 11:25:31
    Does adding shelf liner inside the case work as well for Topre boards as it does for MX?

    I was under the impression that shelf liner serves to reduce resonance. If your Topre board sounds hollow or pings (not sure that it could ping) then yeah I think it would.

    I'm curious to try it on the Novatouch tour (if I'm allowed). I remember reading a review a while ago that mentioned one of the complaints about the Novatouch vs Realforce was there was a less solid sounding "Thonk." I wonder if this would have an affect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 02 June 2015, 23:54:31
    Quote from: Hzza on Mon, 01 June 2015, 11:41:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:54:43
    what size of torx screwdriver do I need to open this stupid WEY

    or can I just drill it out?
    I'll check a bit later on, I put mine back together yesterday and I'm pretty sure I still have the bit out.

    edit - T5
    thx :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 09:44:54
    Quote from: greath on Tue, 02 June 2015, 21:34:01
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 02 June 2015, 21:26:31
    Quote from: greath on Tue, 02 June 2015, 11:25:31
    Does adding shelf liner inside the case work as well for Topre boards as it does for MX?

    I was under the impression that shelf liner serves to reduce resonance. If your Topre board sounds hollow or pings (not sure that it could ping) then yeah I think it would.

    I'm curious to try it on the Novatouch tour (if I'm allowed). I remember reading a review a while ago that mentioned one of the complaints about the Novatouch vs Realforce was there was a less solid sounding "Thonk." I wonder if this would have an affect.

    I need to ask if we're allowed to disassemble the keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Wed, 03 June 2015, 09:50:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 09:44:54
    Quote from: greath on Tue, 02 June 2015, 21:34:01
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 02 June 2015, 21:26:31
    Quote from: greath on Tue, 02 June 2015, 11:25:31
    Does adding shelf liner inside the case work as well for Topre boards as it does for MX?

    I was under the impression that shelf liner serves to reduce resonance. If your Topre board sounds hollow or pings (not sure that it could ping) then yeah I think it would.

    I'm curious to try it on the Novatouch tour (if I'm allowed). I remember reading a review a while ago that mentioned one of the complaints about the Novatouch vs Realforce was there was a less solid sounding "Thonk." I wonder if this would have an affect.

    I need to ask if we're allowed to disassemble the keyboards.

    Yeah, I was definitely going to ask first. I just thought I would be asking you :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Wed, 03 June 2015, 10:36:58
    Looking to lube my stabilizers, sadly the ones that are refered in op doesn't seem avalaible in europe.

    I though of using bike/car or even other hobbies (skate,roller,idk)  grease, what kind of specs should I look into for stab grease?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Wed, 03 June 2015, 10:39:59
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 03 June 2015, 10:36:58
    Looking to lube my stabilizers, sadly the ones that are refered in op doesn't seem avalaible in europe.

    I though of using bike/car or even other hobbies (skate,roller,idk)  grease, what kind of specs should I look into for stab grease?

    This is what I currently use and it works quite well. (http://www.homedepot.com/p/DANCO-0-5-oz-Silicone-Faucet-Grease-88693/203193536?AID=11210757&PID=5487423&SID=skim21335X794039X47e2efd069d85bb142532ed142d6ec71&cm_mmc=CJ-_-5487423-_-11210757&cj=true)

    Thick silicone grease (dielectric) is non-conductive and will stay in place better than a thin lube. There should be an equivalent to the above in plumbing sections of basically and hardware store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:17:45
    I finished desolding some vintage blacks from a WYSE board. My question is how should I go about to cleaning the switch housing? I have everything separated, but I'm not sure what I should use to clean the switch itself. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:19:50
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:17:45
    I finished desolding some vintage blacks from a WYSE board. My question is how should I go about to cleaning the switch housing? I have everything separated, but I'm not sure what I should use to clean the switch itself. Thanks!

    Douse it in isopropyl alcohol or use an ultrasonic cleaner.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:26:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:19:50
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:17:45
    I finished desolding some vintage blacks from a WYSE board. My question is how should I go about to cleaning the switch housing? I have everything separated, but I'm not sure what I should use to clean the switch itself. Thanks!

    Douse it in isopropyl alcohol or use an ultrasonic cleaner.

    Thanks, A! Sadly I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner...

    Should I use 70% or 90% alcohol? (And how long should I leave it in there?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:30:59
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:26:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:19:50
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:17:45
    I finished desolding some vintage blacks from a WYSE board. My question is how should I go about to cleaning the switch housing? I have everything separated, but I'm not sure what I should use to clean the switch itself. Thanks!

    Douse it in isopropyl alcohol or use an ultrasonic cleaner.

    Thanks, A! Sadly I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner...

    Should I use 70% or 90% alcohol? (And how long should I leave it in there?)

    As high of a percentage as you can find. 90%, 91%, 99%. And leave it on there until it evaporates ;).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:35:58
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:17:45
    I finished desolding some vintage blacks from a WYSE board. My question is how should I go about to cleaning the switch housing? I have everything separated, but I'm not sure what I should use to clean the switch itself. Thanks!

    I put mine in a plastic jar, submerged them in 91% Iso, and shook it for 45mins or so as I watched TV. They came out super clean.

    (http://i.imgur.com/6dkJXvV.jpg?1)
    (http://i.imgur.com/GL9Xk8g.jpg?1)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:38:47
    Quote from: greath on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:35:58
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:17:45
    I finished desolding some vintage blacks from a WYSE board. My question is how should I go about to cleaning the switch housing? I have everything separated, but I'm not sure what I should use to clean the switch itself. Thanks!

    I put mine in a plastic jar, submerged them in 91% Iso, and shook it for 45mins or so as I watched TV. They came out super clean.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/6dkJXvV.jpg?1)


    I dump switches or switch parts into a plastic bin I use for keyboard modding. Douse everything in 91% like it's salt on hot fries. Shake until it evaporates. Greath's method also works I'm sure, thanks for sharing :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:44:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:38:47
    Quote from: greath on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:35:58
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:17:45
    I finished desolding some vintage blacks from a WYSE board. My question is how should I go about to cleaning the switch housing? I have everything separated, but I'm not sure what I should use to clean the switch itself. Thanks!

    I put mine in a plastic jar, submerged them in 91% Iso, and shook it for 45mins or so as I watched TV. They came out super clean.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/6dkJXvV.jpg?1)


    I dump switches or switch parts into a plastic bin I use for keyboard modding. Douse everything in 91% like it's salt on hot fries. Shake until it evaporates. Greath's method also works I'm sure, thanks for sharing :).

    Thanks to both of you! It's in 99% right now.  ;D!!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 04 June 2015, 12:14:35
    M0ar cables = M0ar voltage drop,   correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 June 2015, 12:16:24
    Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 04 June 2015, 12:14:35
    M0ar cables = M0ar voltage drop,   correct?

    Should be yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 04 June 2015, 15:50:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:22:51
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:21:56
    I marked it with silver sharpie so when I desolder it I can open it up and compare the spring to another spring

    Please take careful pictures of the slider and housing too! Oh and report back. You have a job to do now. Two even! Don't let me down mang ;)
    I took pictures of it as I finally got around to it. This will be the only picture of it I have, as when I was putting the spring back into the housing, it went flying into my carpet, and I can't find it. The super light switch is on the left, the regular vintage black is on the right

    (https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/351/18280307659_cbd876f827_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tRnmAg)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/tRnmAg) by skurela (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130962435@N07/), on Flickr
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:33:02
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 03 June 2015, 10:36:58
    Looking to lube my stabilizers, sadly the ones that are refered in op doesn't seem avalaible in europe.

    I though of using bike/car or even other hobbies (skate,roller,idk)  grease, what kind of specs should I look into for stab grease?

    In general, check for something with PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) AKA Teflon®.

    I tried looking at automotive lubricants and ended up with a rebranded Krytox sold for use in the convertible roof mechanism on European cars...naturally this was insanely expensive to buy locally.

    I checked bike shops too but the greases and oils had a sulfur odor.

    I use Tamiya GP383 Mini 4WD F-Grease (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10131587) that I picked up at a local hobby / model shop.  PM me if you can't find this locally and I can hook you up. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:37:54
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:33:02
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 03 June 2015, 10:36:58
    Looking to lube my stabilizers, sadly the ones that are refered in op doesn't seem avalaible in europe.

    I though of using bike/car or even other hobbies (skate,roller,idk)  grease, what kind of specs should I look into for stab grease?

    In general, check for something with PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) AKA Teflon®.

    I tried looking at automotive lubricants and ended up with a rebranded Krytox sold for use in the convertible roof mechanism on European cars...naturally this was insanely expensive to buy locally.

    I checked bike shops too but the greases and oils had a sulfur odor.

    I use Tamiya GP383 Mini 4WD F-Grease (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10131587) that I picked up at a local hobby / model shop.  PM me if you can't find this locally and I can hook you up. :thumb:

    Just wanted to point out something here infiniti, not all PTFE is Teflon. Teflon is trademarked by DuPont but they are not the only manufacturer for PTFE. I am interning at a company that works with PTFE now and they have their own trademarked name for PTFE.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:47:29
    So you're saying I should look for a teflon based lube insteaf of PTFE?
    Both seem to be quite easy to get.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:49:01
    Quote from: azhdar on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:47:29
    So you're saying I should look for a teflon based lube insteaf of PTFE?
    Both seem to be quite easy to get.

    Well I mean if you get a Teflon based lube you are getting a PTFE lube.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:50:59
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:49:01
    Quote from: azhdar on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:47:29
    So you're saying I should look for a teflon based lube insteaf of PTFE?
    Both seem to be quite easy to get.

    Well I mean if you get a Teflon based lube you are getting a PTFE lube.

    Thanks will shop tomorrow and see how it goes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:54:35
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:37:54
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:33:02
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 03 June 2015, 10:36:58
    Looking to lube my stabilizers, sadly the ones that are refered in op doesn't seem avalaible in europe.

    I though of using bike/car or even other hobbies (skate,roller,idk)  grease, what kind of specs should I look into for stab grease?

    In general, check for something with PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) AKA Teflon®.

    I tried looking at automotive lubricants and ended up with a rebranded Krytox sold for use in the convertible roof mechanism on European cars...naturally this was insanely expensive to buy locally.

    I checked bike shops too but the greases and oils had a sulfur odor.

    I use Tamiya GP383 Mini 4WD F-Grease (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10131587) that I picked up at a local hobby / model shop.  PM me if you can't find this locally and I can hook you up. :thumb:

    Just wanted to point out something here infiniti, not all PTFE is Teflon. Teflon is trademarked by DuPont but they are not the only manufacturer for PTFE. I am interning at a company that works with PTFE now and they have their own trademarked name for PTFE.

    Oh yeah...it should have been "Teflon® AKA PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene)". :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:59:07
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:54:35
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:37:54
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:33:02
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 03 June 2015, 10:36:58
    Looking to lube my stabilizers, sadly the ones that are refered in op doesn't seem avalaible in europe.

    I though of using bike/car or even other hobbies (skate,roller,idk)  grease, what kind of specs should I look into for stab grease?

    In general, check for something with PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) AKA Teflon®.

    I tried looking at automotive lubricants and ended up with a rebranded Krytox sold for use in the convertible roof mechanism on European cars...naturally this was insanely expensive to buy locally.

    I checked bike shops too but the greases and oils had a sulfur odor.

    I use Tamiya GP383 Mini 4WD F-Grease (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10131587) that I picked up at a local hobby / model shop.  PM me if you can't find this locally and I can hook you up. :thumb:

    Just wanted to point out something here infiniti, not all PTFE is Teflon. Teflon is trademarked by DuPont but they are not the only manufacturer for PTFE. I am interning at a company that works with PTFE now and they have their own trademarked name for PTFE.

    Oh yeah...it should have been "Teflon® AKA PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene)". :-[

    I wasn't trying to be an ass just trying to clear the air. I figured you knew what you were talking about but I guess considering it's been ingrained in me that Teflon=PTFE, PTFE!=Teflon, I had to say something. On a side note, PTFE is a pain in the ass to work with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:07:15
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:59:07
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:54:35
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:37:54
    Quote from: infiniti on Fri, 05 June 2015, 07:33:02
    Quote from: azhdar on Wed, 03 June 2015, 10:36:58
    Looking to lube my stabilizers, sadly the ones that are refered in op doesn't seem avalaible in europe.

    I though of using bike/car or even other hobbies (skate,roller,idk)  grease, what kind of specs should I look into for stab grease?

    In general, check for something with PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) AKA Teflon®.

    I tried looking at automotive lubricants and ended up with a rebranded Krytox sold for use in the convertible roof mechanism on European cars...naturally this was insanely expensive to buy locally.

    I checked bike shops too but the greases and oils had a sulfur odor.

    I use Tamiya GP383 Mini 4WD F-Grease (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10131587) that I picked up at a local hobby / model shop.  PM me if you can't find this locally and I can hook you up. :thumb:

    Just wanted to point out something here infiniti, not all PTFE is Teflon. Teflon is trademarked by DuPont but they are not the only manufacturer for PTFE. I am interning at a company that works with PTFE now and they have their own trademarked name for PTFE.

    Oh yeah...it should have been "Teflon® AKA PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene)". :-[

    I wasn't trying to be an ass just trying to clear the air. I figured you knew what you were talking about but I guess considering it's been ingrained in me that Teflon=PTFE, PTFE!=Teflon, I had to say something. On a side note, PTFE is a pain in the ass to work with.

    No worries man. :cool: It's always good to have passion for your product!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:54:16
    Anybody know can I use a plate with the TEX 60% aluminum case, its the low profile one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:57:32
    Quote from: dndliomx on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:54:16
    Anybody know can I use a plate with the TEX 60% aluminum case, its the low profile one.

    pics of it please?

    I see no issue with it, if they were designed for poker2 which has a plate it should be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 June 2015, 09:11:30
    Quote from: dndliomx on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:54:16
    Anybody know can I use a plate with the TEX 60% aluminum case, its the low profile one.

    Yes, you can use a plate. The plate will be even with the top of the case.

    (http://i.imgur.com/BBB5nSG.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Fri, 05 June 2015, 11:44:00
    Thanks guys LLAP...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:30:26
    Any physical difference between "vintage black" and new black switches? Other than wear? Searches are giving a bit ambiguous answers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:35:04
    Quote from: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:30:26
    Any physical difference between "vintage black" and new black switches? Other than wear? Searches are giving a bit ambiguous answers

    Supposedly the logos are different but I honestly haven't been able to figure it out myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:37:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:35:04
    Quote from: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:30:26
    Any physical difference between "vintage black" and new black switches? Other than wear? Searches are giving a bit ambiguous answers

    Supposedly the logos are different but I honestly haven't been able to figure it out myself.

    The logos definitely are different. Other than that, who knows?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:40:53
    So, when something is advertised having 'vintage black switches', I'm free to read 'somewhat used black switches'?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:41:20
    And not pay through my nose?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:46:02
    Quote from: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:40:53
    So, when something is advertised having 'vintage black switches', I'm free to read 'somewhat used black switches'? And not pay through my nose?

    I honestly wouldn't pay more than $0.25/switch for vintage/used/old/worn blacks. For a long time you could get them for that price. I think it was WhiskeyTango who had *TONS* of them. But they're worth whatever you think they are. People like them and I'm not going to knock them.

    I'm still not 100% convinced about them and people simply saying "Yes they're smoother and they've undergone changes" without proof doesn't convince me. Cherry did say in an interview that they did switch molds at one point but there's little evidence of how to ID the differences and know which boards and dates were vintage vs old.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:02:05
    Affirmative Sir and thanks, had a feeling they were something other than just great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:15:47
    Quote from: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:02:05
    Affirmative Sir and thanks, had a feeling they were something other than just great.

    More personal opinions: I sold all of my MX Blacks because I think lubed or even stock Gateron blacks feel better than MX Blacks. Maybe you might be interested in checking those out as another alternative :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 15:45:01
    That's useful information for new acquisitions, thx! The case in point was just whether old black switches added (much) value to a board, and was a selling point in itself. I feel enlightened.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 15:45:21
    Sorry if this went outside the "Simple Questions" category, I'm new here :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metal369 on Fri, 05 June 2015, 20:11:38
    What a nice topic. Thank you for your help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas on Sat, 06 June 2015, 09:40:39
    Hi guys, new to mechanical keyboards (and the forum (and forums in general)), but I have a question I can't find the answer to anywhere. Sorry in advance if I've just missed it somewhere.

    Does using o rings mitigate the maximum force of Cherry MX clears when bottoming out by impeding the maximum travel distance of the spring, and if so, by how many cN? I know I shouldn't bottom out, but I love the bump and don't want to sprain myself while I train to type lighter (and I'm not confident enough to mod a Pok3r with ergo clears).

    Many thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 06 June 2015, 09:58:55
    Quote from: T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas on Sat, 06 June 2015, 09:40:39
    Does using o rings mitigate the maximum force of Cherry MX clears when bottoming out by impeding the maximum travel distance of the spring, and if so, by how many cN?

    No it just shortens the travel distance and makes the bottom out feel cushiony. Same force needed to actuate it though. You'd need to modify the switch and put in new Springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 08 June 2015, 03:38:53
    I just tried plugging in a USB storage device to my HHKB and got the message that the port does not have enough power to support the device. Does  anyone else have this problem, alternatively is anyone able to use the ports successfully or am I too late in the technology cycle to take advantage of these?

     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 08 June 2015, 03:40:33
    Quote from: fanpeople on Mon, 08 June 2015, 03:38:53
    I just tried plugging in a USB storage device to my HHKB and got the message that the port does not have enough power to support the device. Does  anyone else have this problem, alternatively is anyone able to use the ports successfully or am I too late in the technology cycle to take advantage of these?

    I have not managed to get anything working through my HHKB USB ports.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 08 June 2015, 04:38:25
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 08 June 2015, 03:40:33
    I have not managed to get anything working through my HHKB USB ports.

    I just searched the house and found two really old USB sticks, 4GB and they managed to work with the ports. I solved the overall problem by taking two of those rubber USB port covers that stop dust and blocked them off. I will now forget that they exist.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 08 June 2015, 15:35:15
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_shift

    is this yellow the same yellow as in gmk cmyw gb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Mon, 08 June 2015, 16:05:38
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 08 June 2015, 15:35:15
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_shift

    is this yellow the same yellow as in gmk cmyw gb?
    More or less, I was using the controls/alts with the shifts from the CMYK GB for a while and couldn't see a difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 08 June 2015, 18:56:53
    Quote from: metal369 on Fri, 05 June 2015, 20:11:38
    What a nice topic. Thank you for your help.

    +1 one of the sweetest gh threads. I got expertz on call, ready for my random newbish questions. Shouts out to Cptbadass.  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:11:29
    If my dolch pac only has jumpers in the switch, and I desolder them and solder in resistors, do I get NKRO, 6KRO, or just ****ty 2kro
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:24:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:11:29
    If my dolch pac only has jumpers in the switch, and I desolder them and solder in resistors, do I get NKRO, 6KRO, or just ****ty 2kro
    Firstly, you want diodes, not resistors. That said, the G80-1813 controller is PS/2 which should support NKRO. But I haven't tried it on mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:25:05

    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:11:29
    If my dolch pac only has jumpers in the switch, and I desolder them and solder in resistors, do I get NKRO, 6KRO, or just ****ty 2kro

    Do you mean "solder in diodes"?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:34:36
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:25:05

    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:11:29
    If my dolch pac only has jumpers in the switch, and I desolder them and solder in resistors, do I get NKRO, 6KRO, or just ****ty 2kro

    Do you mean "solder in diodes"?
    Yeah, I have diodes, I just mis-type a lot of the time when referring to the two
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:35:13
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:24:53
    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:11:29
    If my dolch pac only has jumpers in the switch, and I desolder them and solder in resistors, do I get NKRO, 6KRO, or just ****ty 2kro
    Firstly, you want diodes, not resistors. That said, the G80-1813 controller is PS/2 which should support NKRO. But I haven't tried it on mine.
    Yeah, I have diodes, just mis-typed as I usually do when referring to the two. I will probably end up trying this when I get the time
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:37:36

    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:34:36
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:25:05

    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:11:29
    If my dolch pac only has jumpers in the switch, and I desolder them and solder in resistors, do I get NKRO, 6KRO, or just ****ty 2kro

    Do you mean "solder in diodes"?
    Yeah, I have diodes, I just mis-type a lot of the time when referring to the two

    Ok. Good luck with the mod.

    I wasn't trying to point out your typo, was trying to make sure I understood what you were asking (and I have a Dolch Pac I might mod as well). Cheers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:40:34
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:37:36

    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:34:36
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:25:05

    Quote from: pwnnarwhal on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:11:29
    If my dolch pac only has jumpers in the switch, and I desolder them and solder in resistors, do I get NKRO, 6KRO, or just ****ty 2kro

    Do you mean "solder in diodes"?
    Yeah, I have diodes, I just mis-type a lot of the time when referring to the two

    Ok. Good luck with the mod.

    I wasn't trying to point out your typo, was trying to make sure I understood what you were asking (and I have a Dolch Pac I might mod as well). Cheers
    Yeah, when I get the chance, I am going to do this on my other Dolch board just in case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:26:32
    When I press '4' sometimes nothing happens, sometimes I get a single '4' and some times I get a double- '44'.  Is this chattering? I tried using compressed air to clean out the switch. It was working fine for weeks.  This only started a day ago. Do I need to unglue/desolder the switch and replace it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:39:56
    Quote from: Rose on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:26:32
    When I press '4' sometimes nothing happens, sometimes I get a single '4' and some times I get a double- '44'.  Is this chattering? I tried using compressed air to clean out the switch. It was working fine for weeks.  This only started a day ago. Do I need to unglue/desolder the switch and replace it?
    I always suggest to check the solder joint first. A lot of times it's just bad and all you need to do is reflow it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rose on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:55:31
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:39:56
    Quote from: Rose on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:26:32
    When I press '4' sometimes nothing happens, sometimes I get a single '4' and some times I get a double- '44'.  Is this chattering? I tried using compressed air to clean out the switch. It was working fine for weeks.  This only started a day ago. Do I need to unglue/desolder the switch and replace it?
    I always suggest to check the solder joint first. A lot of times it's just bad and all you need to do is reflow it

    Resoldering the connections seems to have fixed it.  Thank you!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 16:14:30
    Quote from: Rose on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:55:31
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:39:56
    Quote from: Rose on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:26:32
    When I press '4' sometimes nothing happens, sometimes I get a single '4' and some times I get a double- '44'.  Is this chattering? I tried using compressed air to clean out the switch. It was working fine for weeks.  This only started a day ago. Do I need to unglue/desolder the switch and replace it?
    I always suggest to check the solder joint first. A lot of times it's just bad and all you need to do is reflow it

    Resoldering the connections seems to have fixed it.  Thank you!!
    np, such a common problem that's like my default
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 18:04:10
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 09 June 2015, 18:59:01
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 18:04:10
    Is there anyway to still buy the KMAC Mini?  I just saw it, and it looks amazing.  Reminds me of the model F/AT a little bit.  I really want this though.  I tried kbdmod.com and it gives a message which translated roughly when I click add to cart as "This item is currently in stock brief interruption due to lack of sales."

    I want this bad enough to start a group buy or something but have no idea how to do it.  Obviously I know to try the classifieds, but any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

    You'll need to scour classifieds. They fluctuate in popularity but are usually a bit difficult to come across. I think a couple recently sold in the past month or two.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vintage on Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:03:39
    Anyone know of a source for Krytox keyboard lube? Or when/if Geekhackers/techkeys/MK will restock?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:06:10
    Quote from: Vintage on Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:03:39
    Anyone know of a source for Krytox keyboard lube? Or when/if Geekhackers/techkeys/MK will restock?
    IIRC mkawa just shipped some out to resellers. I believe he posted that somewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vintage on Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:09:59
    Very cool. Thanks for the info :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 11 June 2015, 05:39:03
    is a full size realforce with 45g accross the board not readily available anywhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fi0x on Thu, 11 June 2015, 06:58:48
    Does anyone know what keycaps these are?
    [attachimg=1]
    I know that the QWERTY cluster keys are the Zinc Silver Tone 37 Keyset, but I'm wondering what the other keycap set is being used.

    If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be very helpful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MAR82 on Thu, 11 June 2015, 07:18:54
    Quote from: fi0x on Thu, 11 June 2015, 06:58:48
    Does anyone know what keycaps these are?
    (Attachment Link)
    I know that the QWERTY cluster keys are the Zinc Silver Tone 37 Keyset, but I'm wondering what the other keycap set is being used.

    If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be very helpful.

    They are just the default caps that are on the Royal Kludge RG-987
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/royal-kludge-rg-987

    The Rapoo V500s also has some in the same(ish) style, but the font is more square
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/rapoo-v500s
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 00:33:06
    ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 00:34:50
    No that's mini-DIN 4, also known as S-Video.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 00:40:01
    ye jk im an idiot. it's late, ok? really want to find one of those yarbo ps2 cables though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 01:20:40
    So I guess next question is do these (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-1113635976.79.64CvPv&id=36588617003) get restocked often?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: datacenter on Sat, 13 June 2015, 06:59:22
    Hello guys,

    Not sure that my question should go in this threat :D
    I need to identify a keyboard by a picture, so if anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.

    Here is the pic:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sat, 13 June 2015, 13:26:18
    I know these are older post, but for reference…

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:56:51
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:10:25
    Are there better springs to put into vintage Cherry MX blues while I have the switches apart or will that defeat the purpose of the "vintage" feel?

    I don't want to do the jailhouse mod because I like a hard bottoming out (that's what she said).  :))
    I think that negates the purpose of so called vintage or worn switches. I think that the spring, stem, and housing all work together to make the switches feel the way they do.
    Incorrect. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72626.0

    Quote from: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:40:53
    So, when something is advertised having 'vintage black switches', I'm free to read 'somewhat used black switches'?
    Nope. I've owned keyboards with butter smooth vintage blacks that were never used before. Always Cherry Corp. though. I've noticed inconsistency on Wyse keyboards.

    Either way, there's no reason not to get older switches, because they usually aren't more expensive. Or, if you really care about smoothness and consider harvesting from vintage Cherry keyboards a heresy, there are gaterons.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 13 June 2015, 22:16:16
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 08 June 2015, 15:35:15
    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_shift

    is this yellow the same yellow as in gmk cmyw gb?

    Pretty much.  I did a blind test - juggled them, covered the legends, and tried to guess which was which.  I got it wrong.

    [attachimg=1]

    [attachimg=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sat, 13 June 2015, 23:08:12


    Hello. I changed a 2u backspace switch into 2 x 1u switches. Where do I "find" the extra 1u in the keymapper? What can I do?


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moralless on Sat, 13 June 2015, 23:11:46
    Quote from: Eszett on Sat, 13 June 2015, 23:08:12


    Hello. I changed a 2u backspace switch into 2 x 1u switches. Where do I "find" the extra 1u in the keymapper? What can I do?

    What keymapping software are you using?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sat, 13 June 2015, 23:13:39
    Im using BootMapper Client.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 00:11:44
    Anyone know what kind of switches a Unikey KB-5323 uses? The FCC ID says that it is Chicony OEM but I can't find anything for a Chicony KB-5323.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 14 June 2015, 00:14:29
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 00:11:44
    Anyone know what kind of switches a Unikey KB-5323 uses? The FCC ID says that it is Chicony OEM but I can't find anything for a Chicony KB-5323.

    Pretty sure the Chicony KB-5323 is a rubber dome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:22:47
    Could someone recommend me a good ps2-->usb adapter for my Cheat? I have a few cheap ones lying around, but I'm sure they aren't going to be powerful enough to drive the keyboard, was thinking about this (http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-PS2-Keyboard-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_6?dd=U6ts3Pm8D9Y2yybgKi1j4g%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1434333950&sr=8-6&keywords=ps2+to+usb&refinements=p_97%3A11292772011&pebp=1434333962132&perid=59977934147B4402BE9C) but would like some feedback from others on what might work best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:27:24
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:22:47
    Could someone recommend me a good ps2-->usb adapter for my Cheat? I have a few cheap ones lying around, but I'm sure they aren't going to be powerful enough to drive the keyboard, was thinking about this (http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-PS2-Keyboard-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_6?dd=U6ts3Pm8D9Y2yybgKi1j4g%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1434333950&sr=8-6&keywords=ps2+to+usb&refinements=p_97%3A11292772011&pebp=1434333962132&perid=59977934147B4402BE9C) but would like some feedback from others on what might work best.
    Not sure if he still has any left but mkawa had some good ones up on his geekhackers store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:29:37
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:27:24
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:22:47
    Could someone recommend me a good ps2-->usb adapter for my Cheat? I have a few cheap ones lying around, but I'm sure they aren't going to be powerful enough to drive the keyboard, was thinking about this (http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-PS2-Keyboard-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_6?dd=U6ts3Pm8D9Y2yybgKi1j4g%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1434333950&sr=8-6&keywords=ps2+to+usb&refinements=p_97%3A11292772011&pebp=1434333962132&perid=59977934147B4402BE9C) but would like some feedback from others on what might work best.
    Not sure if he still has any left but mkawa had some good ones up on his geekhackers store.
    Yeah, the ID innovations one is nice, techkeys currently has it, but it's a little more than I'm looking to spend right now, will definitely go for it if there aren't any cheaper options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: magetricks on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:55:28
    Q: Does anyone know where I can find Matias part # FK-303_usb for a http://matias.ca/miniquietpro/pc/? Customer service claims they don't sell them and I banged up my micro USB connector and board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 14 June 2015, 22:20:02
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:29:37
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:27:24
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:22:47
    Could someone recommend me a good ps2-->usb adapter for my Cheat? I have a few cheap ones lying around, but I'm sure they aren't going to be powerful enough to drive the keyboard, was thinking about this (http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-PS2-Keyboard-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_6?dd=U6ts3Pm8D9Y2yybgKi1j4g%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1434333950&sr=8-6&keywords=ps2+to+usb&refinements=p_97%3A11292772011&pebp=1434333962132&perid=59977934147B4402BE9C) but would like some feedback from others on what might work best.
    Not sure if he still has any left but mkawa had some good ones up on his geekhackers store.
    Yeah, the ID innovations one is nice, techkeys currently has it, but it's a little more than I'm looking to spend right now, will definitely go for it if there aren't any cheaper options.

    The other one I keep hearing people talk about is the blue cube.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 22:23:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 June 2015, 22:20:02
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:29:37
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:27:24
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:22:47
    Could someone recommend me a good ps2-->usb adapter for my Cheat? I have a few cheap ones lying around, but I'm sure they aren't going to be powerful enough to drive the keyboard, was thinking about this (http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-PS2-Keyboard-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_6?dd=U6ts3Pm8D9Y2yybgKi1j4g%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1434333950&sr=8-6&keywords=ps2+to+usb&refinements=p_97%3A11292772011&pebp=1434333962132&perid=59977934147B4402BE9C) but would like some feedback from others on what might work best.
    Not sure if he still has any left but mkawa had some good ones up on his geekhackers store.
    Yeah, the ID innovations one is nice, techkeys currently has it, but it's a little more than I'm looking to spend right now, will definitely go for it if there aren't any cheaper options.

    The other one I keep hearing people talk about is the blue cube.
    I'm assuming that's the one I linked?  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 01:23:25
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 22:23:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 June 2015, 22:20:02
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:29:37
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:27:24
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:22:47
    Could someone recommend me a good ps2-->usb adapter for my Cheat? I have a few cheap ones lying around, but I'm sure they aren't going to be powerful enough to drive the keyboard, was thinking about this (http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-PS2-Keyboard-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_6?dd=U6ts3Pm8D9Y2yybgKi1j4g%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1434333950&sr=8-6&keywords=ps2+to+usb&refinements=p_97%3A11292772011&pebp=1434333962132&perid=59977934147B4402BE9C) but would like some feedback from others on what might work best.
    Not sure if he still has any left but mkawa had some good ones up on his geekhackers store.
    Yeah, the ID innovations one is nice, techkeys currently has it, but it's a little more than I'm looking to spend right now, will definitely go for it if there aren't any cheaper options.

    The other one I keep hearing people talk about is the blue cube.
    I'm assuming that's the one I linked?  ;D
    Yep, that's the one I've always used, never had any problems
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 15 June 2015, 05:32:06
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:29:37
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:27:24
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:22:47
    Could someone recommend me a good ps2-->usb adapter for my Cheat? I have a few cheap ones lying around, but I'm sure they aren't going to be powerful enough to drive the keyboard, was thinking about this (http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-PS2-Keyboard-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_6?dd=U6ts3Pm8D9Y2yybgKi1j4g%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1434333950&sr=8-6&keywords=ps2+to+usb&refinements=p_97%3A11292772011&pebp=1434333962132&perid=59977934147B4402BE9C) but would like some feedback from others on what might work best.
    Not sure if he still has any left but mkawa had some good ones up on his geekhackers store.
    Yeah, the ID innovations one is nice, techkeys currently has it, but it's a little more than I'm looking to spend right now, will definitely go for it if there aren't any cheaper options.

    FWIW I can recommend the ID innovations one (I got mine from mkawa, but the TechKeys one is the same).

    If it can get a Model M via an AT to PS/2 adaptor then the ID innovations PS/2 to USB converter connected to a Mac and working, it should work for anything!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 15 June 2015, 06:06:44
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 01:23:25
    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 22:23:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 14 June 2015, 22:20:02
    The other one I keep hearing people talk about is the blue cube.
    I'm assuming that's the one I linked?  ;D
    Yep, that's the one I've always used, never had any problems

    My 356 Mini had a bunch of issues using the BlueCube. Lots of repeated and stuck keys. Got a Monoprice active adapter and it works great:

    http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Keyboard-Converter-Adapter-110934/dp/B00IACID2C

    BlueCube works great for my Model M, but for some reason the 356 is very temperamental.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zustiur on Mon, 15 June 2015, 08:39:48
    Where is the best place to find conventional wisdom about optimal ergonomic angle (in terms of wrist roll) for split keyboards?
    I'm sure I read a discussion on it in the Ergonomics section ages ago but I have no recollection of what the thread was actually about.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 June 2015, 08:50:41
    Quote from: Zustiur on Mon, 15 June 2015, 08:39:48
    Where is the best place to find conventional wisdom about optimal ergonomic angle (in terms of wrist roll) for split keyboards?
    I'm sure I read a discussion on it in the Ergonomics section ages ago but I have no recollection of what the thread was actually about.

    You should PM hoggy. He's the go-to guy for ergo stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:03:46
    Hey,

    I'm about to start my Leeku build. I wanted to make sure I was doing the SMD soldering correctly before I started it.

    (http://i.imgur.com/vRXGjwI.jpg)

    1. Are the diodes and resistors next to their corresponding pads?
    2. The diode has a line on one side. I'm assuming align that with the black bar on the pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:06:13
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:03:46
    Hey,

    I'm about to start my Leeku build. I wanted to make sure I was doing the SMD soldering correctly before I started it.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/vRXGjwI.jpg)


    1. Are the diodes and resistors next to their corresponding pads?
    2. The diode has a line on one side. I'm assuming align that with the black bar on the pcb?

    1. Yes, you have them placed correctly.
    2. Yes, line up the line on the diode with the black bar on the silkscreen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:08:50
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:06:13
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:03:46
    Hey,

    I'm about to start my Leeku build. I wanted to make sure I was doing the SMD soldering correctly before I started it.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/vRXGjwI.jpg)


    1. Are the diodes and resistors next to their corresponding pads?
    2. The diode has a line on one side. I'm assuming align that with the black bar on the pcb?

    1. Yes, you have them placed correctly.
    2. Yes, line up the line on the diode with the black bar on the silkscreen.

    Thanks JD  :thumb:

    Wish me luck!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:10:06
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:08:50
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:06:13
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:03:46
    Hey,

    I'm about to start my Leeku build. I wanted to make sure I was doing the SMD soldering correctly before I started it.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/vRXGjwI.jpg)


    1. Are the diodes and resistors next to their corresponding pads?
    2. The diode has a line on one side. I'm assuming align that with the black bar on the pcb?

    1. Yes, you have them placed correctly.
    2. Yes, line up the line on the diode with the black bar on the silkscreen.

    Thanks JD  :thumb:

    Wish me luck!

    Good luck!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wilba on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:56:12
    I have a Dolch PAC, everything original, which I love typing on... but the "click" sound is inconsistent across keys. Some have a loud and clear click like a buckling spring, while others are much softer and more of a rattle sound. Excuse my n00b terms for these things ;) Does anyone know what the cause is? Is it something I could fix?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:57:55
    Quote from: Wilba on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:56:12
    I have a Dolch PAC, everything original, which I love typing on... but the "click" sound is inconsistent across keys. Some have a loud and clear click like a buckling spring, while others are much softer and more of a rattle sound. Excuse my n00b terms for these things ;) Does anyone know what the cause is? Is it something I could fix?

    The cause is MX Blue switches.

    /snark

    But seriously, all MX clicky switches have inconsistent click, from blues to greens to whites.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 15 June 2015, 10:03:10
    Quote from: Wilba on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:56:12
    I have a Dolch PAC, everything original, which I love typing on... but the "click" sound is inconsistent across keys. Some have a loud and clear click like a buckling spring, while others are much softer and more of a rattle sound. Excuse my n00b terms for these things ;) Does anyone know what the cause is? Is it something I could fix?

    You might find this recent thread helpful https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72807.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wilba on Mon, 15 June 2015, 10:06:54
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 15 June 2015, 10:03:10
    Quote from: Wilba on Mon, 15 June 2015, 09:56:12
    I have a Dolch PAC, everything original, which I love typing on... but the "click" sound is inconsistent across keys. Some have a loud and clear click like a buckling spring, while others are much softer and more of a rattle sound. Excuse my n00b terms for these things ;) Does anyone know what the cause is? Is it something I could fix?

    You might find this recent thread helpful https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72807.0

    Sheesh... posted 2 days ago, don't I look foolish now  :-[  thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:17:42
    For the resistors on my build: I originally used a calculation I found on GH and, based on some orange LEDs I found on ebay, got 1.3k ohm as what I should be using. However, when I emailed kin I asked "should I be using 1.3k?" and he said: 1300 will be dim, 680-820 will be bright, any resistance will work. I was under the impression you had to use specific resistances for specific colors of LED. Is this correct?

    (http://i.imgur.com/wHV72J3.jpg)

    I know it's a little sloppy but does this look like it will work ok? This is as difficult as I thought it would be. I need better eyes. lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:33:47
    Better eyes?  :))

    (http://www.laventure.net/tourist/cables38.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:39:03
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:33:47
    Better eyes?  :))

    Show Image
    (http://www.laventure.net/tourist/cables38.jpg)


    I got an Optivisor that works pretty well:

    (http://i.imgur.com/yG6eaT5.jpg)

    Still damn hard to see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MAR82 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 13:08:50
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:17:42
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wHV72J3.jpg)


    I know it's a little sloppy but does this look like it will work ok? This is as difficult as I thought it would be. I need better eyes. lol

    Sure looks better than the first time I tried  :thumb:
    Those SMDs can be a real pain
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 16:00:48
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:17:42
    For the resistors on my build: I originally used a calculation I found on GH and, based on some orange LEDs I found on ebay, got 1.3k ohm as what I should be using. However, when I emailed kin I asked "should I be using 1.3k?" and he said: 1300 will be dim, 680-820 will be bright, any resistance will work. I was under the impression you had to use specific resistances for specific colors of LED. Is this correct?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wHV72J3.jpg)


    I know it's a little sloppy but does this look like it will work ok? This is as difficult as I thought it would be. I need better eyes. lol

    Any resistance will theoretically work, so long as you don't run more electricity through the LED than it can support. Generally, one wants keyboard LEDs to be dim, but using differently-rated resistors allows varying brightness. The calculations you found here were meant likely meant to match LEDs to a relatively dim setting.

    You want a resistor to limit current, as putting too much current through a LED can fry it. Higher-rated resistor = lower current through LED = less brightness.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 16:11:42
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 16:00:48
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:17:42
    For the resistors on my build: I originally used a calculation I found on GH and, based on some orange LEDs I found on ebay, got 1.3k ohm as what I should be using. However, when I emailed kin I asked "should I be using 1.3k?" and he said: 1300 will be dim, 680-820 will be bright, any resistance will work. I was under the impression you had to use specific resistances for specific colors of LED. Is this correct?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/wHV72J3.jpg)


    I know it's a little sloppy but does this look like it will work ok? This is as difficult as I thought it would be. I need better eyes. lol

    Any resistance will theoretically work, so long as you don't run more electricity through the LED than it can support. Generally, one wants keyboard LEDs to be dim, but using differently-rated resistors allows varying brightness. The calculations you found here were meant likely meant to match LEDs to a relatively dim setting.

    You want a resistor to limit current, as putting too much current through a LED can fry it. Higher-rated resistor = lower current through LED = less brightness.


    Thanks!

    I have finished soldering the diodes. Not the switches and only a couple of the resistors. Is there a way for me to test the brightness of the LEDs on the keyboard with the few resistors I do have soldered on? If not, is there another way I could test the brightnesses with stuff around the house (like a 9v battery)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 19:46:11
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 16:11:42
    Is there a way for me to test the brightness of the LEDs on the keyboard with the few resistors I do have soldered on? If not, is there another way I could test the brightnesses with stuff around the house (like a 9v battery)?

    You don't need to solder on in order to test the led brightness with different resistors.
    For long term, you can use a breadboard kit
    (http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-17719228972953/2390-test-point-breadboard-with-jumper-wire-jw140-kit-9488wk-3.gif)

    For short term, a small few alligators test clips would be just fine
    (https://www.adafruit.com/images/1200x900/321-00.jpg)

    If you don't have any 5V power supply, it would be a small problem, however.

    You can create 5V power supply from 4xAAA battery
    (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Cm1GbeDpL._SL1100_.jpg)
    then use a step-down to reduce from 6V to 5V

    It would be better if you have an adapter 5V output or an old PSU because you can create a DIY power supply with direct 5V.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 15 June 2015, 20:31:21
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 19:46:11
    More
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 16:11:42
    Is there a way for me to test the brightness of the LEDs on the keyboard with the few resistors I do have soldered on? If not, is there another way I could test the brightnesses with stuff around the house (like a 9v battery)?

    You don't need to solder on in order to test the led brightness with different resistors.
    For long term, you can use a breadboard kit
    Show Image
    (http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-17719228972953/2390-test-point-breadboard-with-jumper-wire-jw140-kit-9488wk-3.gif)


    For short term, a small few alligators test clips would be just fine
    Show Image
    (https://www.adafruit.com/images/1200x900/321-00.jpg)


    If you don't have any 5V power supply, it would be a small problem, however.

    You can create 5V power supply from 4xAAA battery
    Show Image
    (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Cm1GbeDpL._SL1100_.jpg)

    then use a step-down to reduce from 6V to 5V
    It would be better if you have an adapter 5V output or an old PSU because you can create a DIY power supply with direct 5V.

    Don't forget, USB is 5V. So if you have an old powered hub or a phone charger and a sacrificial USB cable, you can decapitate one end of the cable, strip the power & gnd wires and tin them, and you've got a pretty well-regulated 5V USB power supply.

    Technically you could use one of your computer's USB ports but I generally don't recommend building test circuits that are tied into expensive gear like a PC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 21:46:12
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 15 June 2015, 20:31:21
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 19:46:11
    More
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 16:11:42
    Is there a way for me to test the brightness of the LEDs on the keyboard with the few resistors I do have soldered on? If not, is there another way I could test the brightnesses with stuff around the house (like a 9v battery)?

    You don't need to solder on in order to test the led brightness with different resistors.
    For long term, you can use a breadboard kit
    Show Image
    (http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-17719228972953/2390-test-point-breadboard-with-jumper-wire-jw140-kit-9488wk-3.gif)


    For short term, a small few alligators test clips would be just fine
    Show Image
    (https://www.adafruit.com/images/1200x900/321-00.jpg)


    If you don't have any 5V power supply, it would be a small problem, however.

    You can create 5V power supply from 4xAAA battery
    Show Image
    (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Cm1GbeDpL._SL1100_.jpg)

    then use a step-down to reduce from 6V to 5V
    It would be better if you have an adapter 5V output or an old PSU because you can create a DIY power supply with direct 5V.

    Don't forget, USB is 5V. So if you have an old powered hub or a phone charger and a sacrificial USB cable, you can decapitate one end of the cable, strip the power & gnd wires and tin them, and you've got a pretty well-regulated 5V USB power supply.

    Technically you could use one of your computer's USB ports but I generally don't recommend building test circuits that are tied into expensive gear like a PC.

    Great idea. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 15 June 2015, 22:23:01
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 21:46:12
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 15 June 2015, 20:31:21
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 19:46:11
    More
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 16:11:42
    Is there a way for me to test the brightness of the LEDs on the keyboard with the few resistors I do have soldered on? If not, is there another way I could test the brightnesses with stuff around the house (like a 9v battery)?

    You don't need to solder on in order to test the led brightness with different resistors.
    For long term, you can use a breadboard kit
    Show Image
    (http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-17719228972953/2390-test-point-breadboard-with-jumper-wire-jw140-kit-9488wk-3.gif)


    For short term, a small few alligators test clips would be just fine
    Show Image
    (https://www.adafruit.com/images/1200x900/321-00.jpg)


    If you don't have any 5V power supply, it would be a small problem, however.

    You can create 5V power supply from 4xAAA battery
    Show Image
    (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Cm1GbeDpL._SL1100_.jpg)

    then use a step-down to reduce from 6V to 5V
    It would be better if you have an adapter 5V output or an old PSU because you can create a DIY power supply with direct 5V.

    Don't forget, USB is 5V. So if you have an old powered hub or a phone charger and a sacrificial USB cable, you can decapitate one end of the cable, strip the power & gnd wires and tin them, and you've got a pretty well-regulated 5V USB power supply.

    Technically you could use one of your computer's USB ports but I generally don't recommend building test circuits that are tied into expensive gear like a PC.

    Great idea. Thanks!

    With modern hardware you would be fine.  I have done it.  Pretty much worst case scenerio for anything newer than at least Windows 7, is you will get an error message saying that the port has attempted to draw to much power and has been shut down.

    If you are testing stuff from different power sources, you can possibly introduce ground loops.  Not to sure how much possible damage could be done with it, but I feel it would still be a possibility.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zustiur on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:33:21
    Does Mechanical Keyboards.com usually send a 'your product has been shipped' email? I've got the the order confirmation but nothing else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:59:26
    Quote from: Zustiur on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:33:21
    Does Mechanical Keyboards.com usually send a 'your product has been shipped' email? I've got the the order confirmation but nothing else.
    Typically yes but in my experience sometimes they don't come through. You can email their support and they can tell you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 16 June 2015, 14:12:50
    Why are 3mm purple leds so much cheaper than 1.8mm led's? I need a few to change the 3 indicator led's on my 1800 case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:34:23
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 16 June 2015, 14:12:50
    Why are 3mm purple leds so much cheaper than 1.8mm led's? I need a few to change the 3 indicator led's on my 1800 case.

    Probably just supply and demand. Where are you buying from? Here are some for $.40/each. (http://lighthouseleds.com/1-8mm-2mm-led-uv-purple-ultra-bright.html)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 16 June 2015, 17:54:17
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:34:23
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 16 June 2015, 14:12:50
    Why are 3mm purple leds so much cheaper than 1.8mm led's? I need a few to change the 3 indicator led's on my 1800 case.

    Probably just supply and demand. Where are you buying from? Here are some for $.40/each. (http://lighthouseleds.com/1-8mm-2mm-led-uv-purple-ultra-bright.html)

    Thanks, yea you can get x100 3mm shipped for $2.50 from Chiner..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:04:09
    Quote from: dndliomx on Mon, 08 June 2015, 18:56:53
    Quote from: metal369 on Fri, 05 June 2015, 20:11:38
    What a nice topic. Thank you for your help.

    +1 one of the sweetest gh threads. I got expertz on call, ready for my random newbish questions. Shouts out to Cptbadass.  :))

    You're welcome :)

    Quote from: Zustiur on Mon, 15 June 2015, 08:39:48
    Where is the best place to find conventional wisdom about optimal ergonomic angle (in terms of wrist roll) for split keyboards?
    I'm sure I read a discussion on it in the Ergonomics section ages ago but I have no recollection of what the thread was actually about.

    Start a thread and then talk to some people like Hoggy, Acidfire, obra, Haata, dorkvader, and jacobolus.

    Quote from: Vintage on Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:03:39
    Anyone know of a source for Krytox keyboard lube? Or when/if Geekhackers/techkeys/MK will restock?

    Krytox isn't keyboard lube per se. It's an industrial lube (http://www2.dupont.com/Lubricants/en_US/industries/Industries.html) usually used for not keyboard applications. If you're impatient, you can try hunting other sources. I did a quick search and found some on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/GENUINE-Lubricant-Perfluoropolyether-Industrial-Bottle/dp/B0096VV9ZE).

    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 18:04:10
    Is there anyway to still buy the KMAC Mini?  I just saw it, and it looks amazing.  Reminds me of the model F/AT a little bit.  I really want this though.  I tried kbdmod.com and it gives a message which translated roughly when I click add to cart as "This item is currently in stock brief interruption due to lack of sales."

    I want this bad enough to start a group buy or something but have no idea how to do it.  Obviously I know to try the classifieds, but any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

    Think you're best bet is the Classifieds unfortunately.

    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 01:20:40
    So I guess next question is do these (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-1113635976.79.64CvPv&id=36588617003) get restocked often?

    I have no idea what I'm looking at.

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 11 June 2015, 05:39:03
    is a full size realforce with 45g accross the board not readily available anywhere?

    I'm honestly horrible with anything Topre but have you checked EliteKeyboards and The Keyboard Co?

    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 13 June 2015, 13:26:18
    I know these are older post, but for reference�

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:56:51
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:10:25
    Are there better springs to put into vintage Cherry MX blues while I have the switches apart or will that defeat the purpose of the "vintage" feel?

    I don't want to do the jailhouse mod because I like a hard bottoming out (that's what she said).  :))
    I think that negates the purpose of so called vintage or worn switches. I think that the spring, stem, and housing all work together to make the switches feel the way they do.
    Incorrect. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72626.0

    What exactly is incorrect and what are you trying to highlight in your review? Just saying the housing affects the feel isn't good enough proof for me sadly. I'm looking for some more definitive information other than "I said so".

    Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:22:47
    Could someone recommend me a good ps2-->usb adapter for my Cheat? I have a few cheap ones lying around, but I'm sure they aren't going to be powerful enough to drive the keyboard, was thinking about this (http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-PS2-Keyboard-USB-Adapter/dp/B000BSJFJS/ref=sr_1_6?dd=U6ts3Pm8D9Y2yybgKi1j4g%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1434333950&sr=8-6&keywords=ps2+to+usb&refinements=p_97%3A11292772011&pebp=1434333962132&perid=59977934147B4402BE9C) but would like some feedback from others on what might work best.

    I think this was already covered but I really like the ID Innovations adapters I bought from mkawa and i3oilermaker/TechKeys.

    Quote from: Moralless on Sat, 13 June 2015, 23:11:46
    Quote from: Eszett on Sat, 13 June 2015, 23:08:12


    Hello. I changed a 2u backspace switch into 2 x 1u switches. Where do I "find" the extra 1u in the keymapper? What can I do?

    What keymapping software are you using?
    Quote from: Eszett on Sat, 13 June 2015, 23:13:39
    Im using BootMapper Client.

    I've never heard of that client. Maybe you can try using TMK or EasyAVR? I believe both of those support 1x backspace.

    Quote from: magetricks on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:55:28
    Q: Does anyone know where I can find Matias part # FK-303_usb for a http://matias.ca/miniquietpro/pc/? Customer service claims they don't sell them and I banged up my micro USB connector and board.

    If they don't sell them and you've already contacted them to try and get the part, I'm not sure where you're gonna get it from other than another board. I know you can get *just* the USB connector from the usual suspects (Amazon, eBay, Mouser, etc). Maybe you can try that? How exactly is it banged up? By board do you mean a daughter board or the actual keyboard?

    Quote from: datacenter on Sat, 13 June 2015, 06:59:22
    Hello guys,

    Not sure that my question should go in this threat :D
    I need to identify a keyboard by a picture, so if anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.

    Here is the pic:

    Holy **** that picture is awful. I honestly don't know what I'm looking at other than it's a Bull keyboard and it's got some colorful keycaps. Can you get a better picture? A quick search found these links which might be helpful:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43697.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54174.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greath on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:13:19
    Quote from: phoenix1234 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 19:46:11
    Quote from: greath on Mon, 15 June 2015, 16:11:42
    Is there a way for me to test the brightness of the LEDs on the keyboard with the few resistors I do have soldered on? If not, is there another way I could test the brightnesses with stuff around the house (like a 9v battery)?

    You don't need to solder on in order to test the led brightness with different resistors.
    For long term, you can use a breadboard kit
    Show Image
    (http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-17719228972953/2390-test-point-breadboard-with-jumper-wire-jw140-kit-9488wk-3.gif)


    For short term, a small few alligators test clips would be just fine
    Show Image
    (https://www.adafruit.com/images/1200x900/321-00.jpg)


    If you don't have any 5V power supply, it would be a small problem, however.

    You can create 5V power supply from 4xAAA battery
    Show Image
    (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Cm1GbeDpL._SL1100_.jpg)

    then use a step-down to reduce from 6V to 5V

    It would be better if you have an adapter 5V output or an old PSU because you can create a DIY power supply with direct 5V.

    (http://i.imgur.com/pYevY14.jpg)

    Used and old phone charger and tested out a couple resistors. Thanks guys. Going for the 1.3k ohms :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:43:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:04:09
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 01:20:40
    So I guess next question is do these (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-1113635976.79.64CvPv&id=36588617003) get restocked often?

    I have no idea what I'm looking at.
    Ps2 cable from an audiophile cable company
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:48:36
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:43:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:04:09
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 01:20:40
    So I guess next question is do these (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-1113635976.79.64CvPv&id=36588617003) get restocked often?

    I have no idea what I'm looking at.
    Ps2 cable from an audiophile cable company

    Hm...Why not talk to your favorite custom cable maker and get something like that made? I'm sure Zeal/tjcaustin/Pexon could hook it up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:50:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:48:36
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:43:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:04:09
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 01:20:40
    So I guess next question is do these (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-1113635976.79.64CvPv&id=36588617003) get restocked often?

    I have no idea what I'm looking at.
    Ps2 cable from an audiophile cable company

    Hm...Why not talk to your favorite custom cable maker and get something like that made? I'm sure Zeal/tjcaustin/Pexon could hook it up.
    Sorta yeah. Just like the connectors and overall look of those a little more
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 16 June 2015, 21:29:01
    Anyone know the distance between the mods and arrow keys on a phantom pcb? Also the distance between the num row and the function row?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zustiur on Tue, 16 June 2015, 21:43:23
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:59:26
    Quote from: Zustiur on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:33:21
    Does Mechanical Keyboards.com usually send a 'your product has been shipped' email? I've got the the order confirmation but nothing else.
    Typically yes but in my experience sometimes they don't come through. You can email their support and they can tell you.
    hmm
    That's concerning. I've already emailed them. No response as yet. Will wait a bit longer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:49:30
    do switches ever have to be re-lubed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 04:07:45
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:49:30
    do switches ever have to be re-lubed?
    Yes, but I think you rarely re-lubed switchs except you used it very very very long times.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 June 2015, 08:31:47
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:49:30
    do switches ever have to be re-lubed?

    Agreed with what quochung1989 said.

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 16 June 2015, 21:29:01
    Anyone know the distance between the mods and arrow keys on a phantom pcb? Also the distance between the num row and the function row?

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom#Files

    Does the plate file help you or no? Maybe the DT Wiki or elsewhere has the Gerber files? I couldn't find it in a quick search.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 17 June 2015, 08:34:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 June 2015, 08:31:47
    Quote from: frosty on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:49:30
    do switches ever have to be re-lubed?

    Agreed with what quochung1989 said.

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 16 June 2015, 21:29:01
    Anyone know the distance between the mods and arrow keys on a phantom pcb? Also the distance between the num row and the function row?

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom#Files

    Does the plate file help you or no? Maybe the DT Wiki or elsewhere has the Gerber files? I couldn't find it in a quick search.
    The plate should give me what I'm looking for, thanks. Hopefully the spacing isn't as messed up as the rest of those drawings. :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Wed, 17 June 2015, 10:59:09
    Curious if anyone has tried these 2x3x4 purple led's? Do they actually shine purple? The picture from their auction looks blue to me:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Square-LED-Diode-Water-Clear-Purple-UV-Light-Rectangular-/381265404854?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c53063b6 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Square-LED-Diode-Water-Clear-Purple-UV-Light-Rectangular-/381265404854?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c53063b6)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MAR82 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:10:18
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 17 June 2015, 10:59:09
    Curious if anyone has tried these 2x3x4 purple led's? Do they actually shine purple? The picture from their auction looks blue to me:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Square-LED-Diode-Water-Clear-Purple-UV-Light-Rectangular-/381265404854?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c53063b6 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Square-LED-Diode-Water-Clear-Purple-UV-Light-Rectangular-/381265404854?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c53063b6)

    It's because they're UV purple. So it will be somewhat between blue and purple, very hard to take clear pictures of
    You can see some round 3mm ones in this album http://imgur.com/a/XXDLq#0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:15:58
    Quote from: MAR82 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:10:18
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 17 June 2015, 10:59:09
    Curious if anyone has tried these 2x3x4 purple led's? Do they actually shine purple? The picture from their auction looks blue to me:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Square-LED-Diode-Water-Clear-Purple-UV-Light-Rectangular-/381265404854?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c53063b6 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-2x3x4mm-Square-LED-Diode-Water-Clear-Purple-UV-Light-Rectangular-/381265404854?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c53063b6)

    It's because they're UV purple. So it will be somewhat between blue and purple, very hard to take clear pictures of
    You can see some round 3mm ones in this album http://imgur.com/a/XXDLq#0

    Thanks mar82, if they shine like your pics, I'd be very happy with that purple. Think I'll pick some up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:52:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:04:09
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 13 June 2015, 13:26:18
    I know these are older post, but for reference�

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:56:51
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:10:25
    Are there better springs to put into vintage Cherry MX blues while I have the switches apart or will that defeat the purpose of the "vintage" feel?

    I don't want to do the jailhouse mod because I like a hard bottoming out (that's what she said).  :))
    I think that negates the purpose of so called vintage or worn switches. I think that the spring, stem, and housing all work together to make the switches feel the way they do.
    Incorrect. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72626.0

    What exactly is incorrect and what are you trying to highlight in your review? Just saying the housing affects the feel isn't good enough proof for me sadly. I'm looking for some more definitive information other than "I said so".
    The point is that "so called vintage or worn switches" makes it sound like "vintage" is just a buzzword in this context, which is incorrect. The point of my overview is to link other sources in one place. It's a fact that vintage MX Blue switches are different from the modern ones. I added only a screenshot from Audacity to show the difference in sound between old and new stems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:54:08
    Yeah the UV purple usually isn't captured very well, it will look blue on all but the best of cameras. My case has a UV light strip but in pictures it just looks blue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:21:16
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:52:10
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:04:09
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 13 June 2015, 13:26:18
    I know these are older post, but for reference�

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:56:51
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:10:25
    Are there better springs to put into vintage Cherry MX blues while I have the switches apart or will that defeat the purpose of the "vintage" feel?

    I don't want to do the jailhouse mod because I like a hard bottoming out (that's what she said).  :))
    I think that negates the purpose of so called vintage or worn switches. I think that the spring, stem, and housing all work together to make the switches feel the way they do.
    Incorrect. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72626.0

    What exactly is incorrect and what are you trying to highlight in your review? Just saying the housing affects the feel isn't good enough proof for me sadly. I'm looking for some more definitive information other than "I said so".


    The point is that "so called vintage or worn switches" makes it sound like "vintage" is just a buzzword in this context, which is incorrect. The point of my overview is to link other sources in one place. It's a fact that vintage MX Blue switches are different from the modern ones. I added only a screenshot from Audacity to show the difference in sound between old and new stems.

    If it's a fact, you'll have no trouble providing me links with dates and what Cherry did to change the manufacturing of the switches. I've been curious for ages to know both of these details and obviously I'm still skeptical.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:33:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:21:16
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:52:10
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:04:09
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 13 June 2015, 13:26:18
    I know these are older post, but for reference�

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:56:51
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:10:25
    Are there better springs to put into vintage Cherry MX blues while I have the switches apart or will that defeat the purpose of the "vintage" feel?

    I don't want to do the jailhouse mod because I like a hard bottoming out (that's what she said).  :))
    I think that negates the purpose of so called vintage or worn switches. I think that the spring, stem, and housing all work together to make the switches feel the way they do.
    Incorrect. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72626.0

    What exactly is incorrect and what are you trying to highlight in your review? Just saying the housing affects the feel isn't good enough proof for me sadly. I'm looking for some more definitive information other than "I said so".


    The point is that "so called vintage or worn switches" makes it sound like "vintage" is just a buzzword in this context, which is incorrect. The point of my overview is to link other sources in one place. It's a fact that vintage MX Blue switches are different from the modern ones. I added only a screenshot from Audacity to show the difference in sound between old and new stems.

    If it's a fact, you'll have no trouble providing me links with dates and what Cherry did to change the manufacturing of the switches. I've been curious for ages to know both of these details and obviously I'm still skeptical.
    This (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/cherry-mx-old-vs-new-t139.html#p2196) was the closest thing I could find, someone acknowledging that it was officially confirmed at some point. I have no idea where or what they did though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Wed, 17 June 2015, 19:08:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:21:16
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:52:10
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:04:09
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 13 June 2015, 13:26:18
    I know these are older post, but for reference�

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:56:51
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:10:25
    Are there better springs to put into vintage Cherry MX blues while I have the switches apart or will that defeat the purpose of the "vintage" feel?

    I don't want to do the jailhouse mod because I like a hard bottoming out (that's what she said).  :))
    I think that negates the purpose of so called vintage or worn switches. I think that the spring, stem, and housing all work together to make the switches feel the way they do.
    Incorrect. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72626.0

    What exactly is incorrect and what are you trying to highlight in your review? Just saying the housing affects the feel isn't good enough proof for me sadly. I'm looking for some more definitive information other than "I said so".


    The point is that "so called vintage or worn switches" makes it sound like "vintage" is just a buzzword in this context, which is incorrect. The point of my overview is to link other sources in one place. It's a fact that vintage MX Blue switches are different from the modern ones. I added only a screenshot from Audacity to show the difference in sound between old and new stems.

    If it's a fact, you'll have no trouble providing me links with dates and what Cherry did to change the manufacturing of the switches. I've been curious for ages to know both of these details and obviously I'm still skeptical.
    See links on that page, there are detailed pictures among other things.

    As previously mentioned [there?], I've owned Chicony KB-5191 (old pics of one (http://imgur.com/a/mgrou)) keyboards made in 1991/1992 and sold in the same box, that had different stems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 19:14:23
    My Chicony KB-5581 also had vintage blues. I added the photo on the DT wiki. I'll see if my camera can show a difference in stem color between a vintage and modern blue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:52:32
    Question: [attachimg=1] is this curve (the bump) the same with Clears, Blues and Greys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:58:33
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:52:32
    Question: (Attachment Link) is this curve (the bump) the same with Clears, Blues and Greys?
    I think the bump is the same between tactile and clicky switches, the difference is just in the white slider in clicky switches I'm stupid, look below
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:59:20
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:52:32
    Question: (Attachment Link) is this curve (the bump) the same with Clears, Blues and Greys?

    Clears and tactile greys are the same. Blues have a notably smaller bump. Linear greys won't have a bump at all. Clicky greys are likely to be the same as blues, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:01:49
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:59:20
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:52:32
    Question: (Attachment Link) is this curve (the bump) the same with Clears, Blues and Greys?

    Clears and tactile greys are the same. Blues have a notably smaller bump. Linear greys won't have a bump at all. Clicky greys are likely to be the same as blues, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
    Aha, whelp at least I was corrected quickly :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:05:16
    @user 18 Alright! Thanks for clarification. As I understand it, that means there are practically 3 different bumps with Cherry: brown (slight bump), blue (stronger bump), clears/grey (strongest bump).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:05:51
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:01:49
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:59:20
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:52:32
    Question: (Attachment Link) is this curve (the bump) the same with Clears, Blues and Greys?

    Clears and tactile greys are the same. Blues have a notably smaller bump. Linear greys won't have a bump at all. Clicky greys are likely to be the same as blues, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
    Aha, whelp at least I was corrected quickly :p

    I didn't know without physically getting switches out and checking. The blue bump was a lot smaller than I expected it to be.

    I wonder what blues would feel like if they had a larger bump?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:07:48
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:05:51
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:01:49
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:59:20
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:52:32
    Question: (Attachment Link) is this curve (the bump) the same with Clears, Blues and Greys?

    Clears and tactile greys are the same. Blues have a notably smaller bump. Linear greys won't have a bump at all. Clicky greys are likely to be the same as blues, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
    Aha, whelp at least I was corrected quickly :p

    I didn't know without physically getting switches out and checking. The blue bump was a lot smaller than I expected it to be.

    I wonder what blues would feel like if they had a larger bump?

    Probably the same as greens with Cherry "light" springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:15:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:07:48
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:05:51
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:01:49
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:59:20
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:52:32
    Question: (Attachment Link) is this curve (the bump) the same with Clears, Blues and Greys?

    Clears and tactile greys are the same. Blues have a notably smaller bump. Linear greys won't have a bump at all. Clicky greys are likely to be the same as blues, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
    Aha, whelp at least I was corrected quickly :p

    I didn't know without physically getting switches out and checking. The blue bump was a lot smaller than I expected it to be.

    I wonder what blues would feel like if they had a larger bump?

    Probably the same as greens with Cherry "light" springs.

    I thought that blues and greens had the same size tactile bump?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:25:10
    I want to find a clicky Gray at some point. I have every Cherry MX switch I know of other than the ultra rare ones like MX Yellow, MX Orange, etc. Even have MX Lock.  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:31:44
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:15:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:07:48
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:05:51
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:01:49
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:59:20
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:52:32
    Question: (Attachment Link) is this curve (the bump) the same with Clears, Blues and Greys?

    Clears and tactile greys are the same. Blues have a notably smaller bump. Linear greys won't have a bump at all. Clicky greys are likely to be the same as blues, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
    Aha, whelp at least I was corrected quickly :p

    I didn't know without physically getting switches out and checking. The blue bump was a lot smaller than I expected it to be.

    I wonder what blues would feel like if they had a larger bump?

    Probably the same as greens with Cherry "light" springs.

    I thought that blues and greens had the same size tactile bump?

    Pretty sure they do. Don't have any greens in front of me to compare though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:39:22
    I just opened up a green and a blue and the stems look exactly the same other than color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 18 June 2015, 21:48:05
    Are the 3-prong LEDs on WEYs dual-color? If not why three prongs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 18 June 2015, 22:21:19
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 18 June 2015, 21:48:05
    Are the 3-prong LEDs on WEYs dual-color? If not why three prongs?

    They could also be 3 color.  I have seen some tri color LEDs that change between two by changing the polarity, and the get the third by using AC.  It just each side at 30 hz and you just get a blend.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 18 June 2015, 22:31:35
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 18 June 2015, 22:21:19
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 18 June 2015, 21:48:05
    Are the 3-prong LEDs on WEYs dual-color? If not why three prongs?

    They could also be 3 color.  I have seen some tri color LEDs that change between two by changing the polarity, and the get the third by using AC.  It just each side at 30 hz and you just get a blend.

    What? Why? Sounds like someone just trying to be too clever.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 18 June 2015, 23:33:16
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 18 June 2015, 23:38:12
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 18 June 2015, 23:33:16
    any way to buy a kmac housing today?  I saw that gon sells a plate and pcb
    classifieds is really gonna be the quickest way. kbdmod is sometimes in stock but I think they only do full boards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 18 June 2015, 23:38:56
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 19 June 2015, 20:42:39
    What are some part numbers for F Unsaver?

    About how often do they come up for sale on eBay/classifieds?

    Who had that detailed build log of the caseless F 122 or Unsaver?  It still had the bottom tray, but the rest was omitted, and the plate even got chopped a bit iirc.

    I know there is the price check thread, but what do they usually sell for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 June 2015, 20:52:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 19 June 2015, 20:42:39
    1) What are some part numbers for F Unsaver?

    2) About how often do they come up for sale on eBay/classifieds?

    3) Who had that detailed build log of the caseless F 122 or Unsaver?  It still had the bottom tray, but the rest was omitted, and the plate even got chopped a bit iirc.

    4) I know there is the price check thread, but what do they usually sell for?

    1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48916.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64100.0

    Those threads look helpful

    2) They're pretty rare. I don't know about eBay but I remember The_Beast spending ages to find one

    3) Fohat.digs (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48847.0)

    4) Ask there, this isn't the price check thread. I've explained the reasoning for this in the past and it's in the OP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 19 June 2015, 21:06:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 June 2015, 20:52:48
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 19 June 2015, 20:42:39
    1) What are some part numbers for F Unsaver?

    2) About how often do they come up for sale on eBay/classifieds?

    3) Who had that detailed build log of the caseless F 122 or Unsaver?  It still had the bottom tray, but the rest was omitted, and the plate even got chopped a bit iirc.

    4) I know there is the price check thread, but what do they usually sell for?

    1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48916.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64100.0

    Those threads look helpful

    2) They're pretty rare. I don't know about eBay but I remember The_Beast spending ages to find one

    3) Fohat.digs (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48847.0)

    4) Ask there, this isn't the price check thread. I've explained the reasoning for this in the past and it's in the OP.

    Thanks for the quick reply cpt.  Sorry about the last question was on mobile and got lazy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Air tree on Fri, 19 June 2015, 23:32:30
    What profile of keycap is topre closest to? I'm curious how the profile will feel compared to cherry, as that's what I'm going to put on it as soon as I can.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 20 June 2015, 08:55:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 June 2015, 20:52:48

    3) Fohat.digs (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48847.0)


    NO !

    That is the bad old one. Use the revised 2nd iteration instead:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62781.msg1469919#msg1469919 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62781.msg1469919#msg1469919)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 21 June 2015, 15:19:04
    can anyone help identify this keypad:

    (http://i.imgur.com/bmjPRmq.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 21 June 2015, 20:33:20
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Sun, 21 June 2015, 15:19:04
    can anyone help identify this keypad:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/bmjPRmq.jpg)

    This pic belongs to Bunny (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=24682). You should pm him to ask  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 22 June 2015, 01:04:48
    What advantage do I have with using enabler PCBs compared to handwiring everything without a PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 June 2015, 19:58:43
    Quote from: Eszett on Mon, 22 June 2015, 01:04:48
    What advantage do I have with using enabler PCBs compared to handwiring everything without a PCB?

    You can make any layout you want...literally any layout that keycaps will let you. And it's slightly easier than handwiring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Tue, 23 June 2015, 02:42:01
    Thank you, Captain. But as far as I understand it  I need a plate anyways, in both cases, with enablers, or without enablers (ie. just handwiring). So I can simply spare the enablers, and handwire the switches on the plate, without PCB and without enablers, right? So what's the advantage of the enablers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 23 June 2015, 05:41:22
    I noticed when building my octagon that the pcb supported doing a 2,75x right shift layout, but it seems to me that the plate doesn't support this, am I right?

    Here is a pic http://www.kbd4u.com/web/product/extra/big/kbd4u_48_2.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Tue, 23 June 2015, 05:58:43
    The plate cutout for right shift seems to be 2u. So answer is probably: no way ..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 June 2015, 08:40:22
    Quote from: Eszett on Tue, 23 June 2015, 02:42:01
    Thank you, Captain. But as far as I understand it  I need a plate anyways, in both cases, with enablers, or without enablers (ie. just handwiring). So I can simply spare the enablers, and handwire the switches on the plate, without PCB and without enablers, right? So what's the advantage of the enablers?

    Exactly what I said before. I plan on building a case out of Legos with my Enablers and just super gluing it to the legos. It's just a tool to give you flexibility in building a keyboard. If you don't think it'll work for your project, that's fine.

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 23 June 2015, 05:41:22
    I noticed when building my octagon that the pcb supported doing a 2,75x right shift layout, but it seems to me that the plate doesn't support this, am I right?

    Here is a pic http://www.kbd4u.com/web/product/extra/big/kbd4u_48_2.jpg

    If that's the only plate you have then no, it won't support a 2.75 right shift.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 23 June 2015, 15:19:10
    What's a good plate for TEX 60% case?
    How about the IMSTO (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=67) plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 15:53:06
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:35:45
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 15:53:06
    what is the typing angle of the hhkb without the use of its feet?


    8 degrees give or take a bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:49:17
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:54:29
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:49:17
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:35:45
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 15:53:06
    what is the typing angle of the hhkb without the use of its feet?


    8 degrees give or take a bit.

    If I find the hhkb to be the perfect angle, would 11 degrees be drastically different?  I'm thinking of getting an mx board with that angle.
    I've used several duck boards and the Lightsaver was my daily for a few weeks. The angle was weird for a little but I got used to it and didn't notice it after a week.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:56:32
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 June 2015, 17:03:37
    Quote from: dndliomx on Tue, 23 June 2015, 15:19:10
    What's a good plate for TEX 60% case?
    How about the IMSTO (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=67) plate?

    Whatever you can get your hands on is a good plate. 60% plates are kinda hard to come by. You could also use swill's tool and order one from Big Blue Saw.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:49:17
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:35:45
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 15:53:06
    what is the typing angle of the hhkb without the use of its feet?


    8 degrees give or take a bit.

    If I find the hhkb to be the perfect angle, would 11 degrees be drastically different?  I'm thinking of getting an mx board with that angle.

    11 deg is too steep for my tastes. I definitely notice it and it's not my favorite. Doesn't make the board unusable to me though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trustinkiss on Wed, 24 June 2015, 01:04:49
    I have a few questions about the Pok3r that I need clarification on.

    1. Are all the programmable layers toggles? Like if I wanted to activate the "Fn + <" layer, would I have to keep those keys held down to activate my programmed keys?

    2. And if I'm in that same layer, if I don't have anything programmed to a key like the Q key, would pressing it do nothing?

    3. Also, within a programmable layer, can I program a double key press? Like can I have Fn+W be "Volume Up" within the programmable layer, "Fn + <." Another example is how the default layer has Fn+I/J/K/L bounded to the arrow keys in the default layer. Is this also possible in each programmable layer?

    4. If that's the case, do I technically have 6 programmable layers, since every key can have an alternate "Fn+Key" within each programmable layer?

    5. Whats the limit to the Pok3r's programmability? I have seen the Poker II vs Fully Programmable video that was posted on Reddit earlier, but it seemed like the only function was that you can have text macros saved within the key. Is this all the Pok3r can do as well except with a 32 character limit?

    6. If not, is the only thing differentiating a "Fully Programmable" keyboard and the Pok3r, the 3/4 layer limit on the Pok3r compared to unlimited layers on the "Fully Programmable" keyboard?

    Like many others I am debating between the KC60 and the Pok3r, and the answers to these questions will heavily influence my decision, so any help is appreciated!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 24 June 2015, 01:55:35
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:49:17
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 23 June 2015, 16:35:45
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 23 June 2015, 15:53:06
    what is the typing angle of the hhkb without the use of its feet?


    8 degrees give or take a bit.

    If I find the hhkb to be the perfect angle, would 11 degrees be drastically different?  I'm thinking of getting an mx board with that angle.

    If it does turn out to be too steep, you can always get some thicker rubber feet and stick them underneath the front edge of the case to raise the front up a little bit, and thus reduce and angle.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lunr on Wed, 24 June 2015, 09:11:29
    will those tex 80% tkl cases fit the kbparadise v80 keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 June 2015, 09:16:57
    Quote from: trustinkiss on Wed, 24 June 2015, 01:04:49
    I have a few questions about the Pok3r that I need clarification on.

    1. Are all the programmable layers toggles? Like if I wanted to activate the "Fn + <" layer, would I have to keep those keys held down to activate my programmed keys?

    2. And if I'm in that same layer, if I don't have anything programmed to a key like the Q key, would pressing it do nothing?

    3. Also, within a programmable layer, can I program a double key press? Like can I have Fn+W be "Volume Up" within the programmable layer, "Fn + <." Another example is how the default layer has Fn+I/J/K/L bounded to the arrow keys in the default layer. Is this also possible in each programmable layer?

    4. If that's the case, do I technically have 6 programmable layers, since every key can have an alternate "Fn+Key" within each programmable layer?

    5. Whats the limit to the Pok3r's programmability? I have seen the Poker II vs Fully Programmable video that was posted on Reddit earlier, but it seemed like the only function was that you can have text macros saved within the key. Is this all the Pok3r can do as well except with a 32 character limit?

    6. If not, is the only thing differentiating a "Fully Programmable" keyboard and the Pok3r, the 3/4 layer limit on the Pok3r compared to unlimited layers on the "Fully Programmable" keyboard?

    Like many others I am debating between the KC60 and the Pok3r, and the answers to these questions will heavily influence my decision, so any help is appreciated!

    I honestly don't know that much about the Pok3r but I found some links that might be helpful:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Ho1rdXm1bDbWt5LUxxUVRMY1E/view - User Manual
    https://rhinofeed.com/vortex-pok3r-review/
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-poker-iii-compact-keyboard
    https://www.keychatter.com/2015/01/30/the-vortex-poker-iii-pok3r-vs-the-poker-ii-what-we-know-so-far/

    Quote from: lunr on Wed, 24 June 2015, 09:11:29
    will those tex 80% tkl cases fit the kbparadise v80 keyboards?

    I'm not sure. The V80 I have in hand isn't mine to take apart. If the USB port isn't on a daughter board, I don't think it will fit. If it is on a daughter board, I think it will fit. You should try PMing 00ZerO or JoshMK as they stock the Tex TKL cases and may have a sample V80 in stock.

    Edit: Looks like the Tek 80% comes with a daughter board (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73110.0) that you can wire to the PCB? If that's the case, it might work. Only issues are dimensions and mounting now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lunr on Wed, 24 June 2015, 09:33:02
    Quote from: lunr on Wed, 24 June 2015, 09:11:29
    will those tex 80% tkl cases fit the kbparadise v80 keyboards?

    I'm not sure. The V80 I have in hand isn't mine to take apart. If the USB port isn't on a daughter board, I don't think it will fit. If it is on a daughter board, I think it will fit. You should try PMing 00ZerO or JoshMK as they stock the Tex TKL cases and may have a sample V80 in stock.

    Edit: Looks like the Tek 80% comes with a daughter board (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73110.0) that you can wire to the PCB? If that's the case, it might work. Only issues are dimensions and mounting now.
    [/quote]

    thanks. i'll give them a email/pm soon.

    i took a look at this thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60549.0 and it looks like it will fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 24 June 2015, 10:55:01
    Is it possible to replace plate mounted stabilizers without de-soldering everything? I've tried to do it in a pok3r, but after releasing the little lever on the front of the stabilizer, it seemed that the stabilizer was trapped by the metal wire.
    I want to do it because it makes a metallic and annoying noise (maybe some grease could help?), and because I like to learn :-)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 24 June 2015, 11:10:31
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 24 June 2015, 15:45:51
    Thanks but they are not costars, they are cherry style plate mounted stabilizers.

    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 24 June 2015, 11:10:31
    Quote from: Giorgio on Wed, 24 June 2015, 10:55:01
    Is it possible to replace plate mounted stabilizers without de-soldering everything? I've tried to do it in a pok3r, but after releasing the little lever on the front of the stabilizer, it seemed that the stabilizer was trapped by the metal wire.
    I want to do it because it makes a metallic and annoying noise (maybe some grease could help?), and because I like to learn :-)

    If it's a Poker 3, I would imagine they're Costar stabilizers. You should just be able to place some grease right on the contact point where the wire touches the plastic clip on the plate. Maybe also put some on the plastic insert that goes into the cap, where the wire would insert into it?

    That being said, you should be able to pop the wire out of the plastic clip and then remove it from the plate fairly easy, IIRC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 June 2015, 15:50:31
    Quote from: Giorgio on Wed, 24 June 2015, 10:55:01
    Is it possible to replace plate mounted stabilizers without de-soldering everything? I've tried to do it in a pok3r, but after releasing the little lever on the front of the stabilizer, it seemed that the stabilizer was trapped by the metal wire.
    I want to do it because it makes a metallic and annoying noise (maybe some grease could help?), and because I like to learn :-)

    How I did it in the past was I just desoldered enough switches to get access to the stabilizers. You don't have to do *all* the switches. Just enough switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 24 June 2015, 16:13:14
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 24 June 2015, 17:35:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 June 2015, 17:03:37
    Quote from: dndliomx on Tue, 23 June 2015, 15:19:10
    What's a good plate for TEX 60% case?
    How about the IMSTO (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=67) plate?

    Whatever you can get your hands on is a good plate. 60% plates are kinda hard to come by. You could also use swill's tool and order one from Big Blue Saw.

    Oops, the Infinity PCB comes with one...  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 24 June 2015, 19:04:03
    Quote from: Eszett on Tue, 23 June 2015, 02:42:01
    Thank you, Captain. But as far as I understand it  I need a plate anyways, in both cases, with enablers, or without enablers (ie. just handwiring). So I can simply spare the enablers, and handwire the switches on the plate, without PCB and without enablers, right? So what's the advantage of the enablers?

    The other big advantage is LEDs.  With just handwriting, if you want to use LEDs, there really isnt anything to affix them to.  That and with enablers, you have the option for smd diodes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 04:20:53
    Before I wait for a response from a proxier, what should I expect to pay for shipping a board from Taobao?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 June 2015, 07:17:38
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 04:20:53
    Before I wait for a response from a proxier, what should I expect to pay for shipping a board from Taobao?
    It all depends on weight and shipping carrier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 25 June 2015, 07:43:06
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 04:20:53
    Before I wait for a response from a proxier, what should I expect to pay for shipping a board from Taobao?

    try this: http://www.ems.com.cn/serviceguide/zifeichaxun/zi_fei_cha_xun.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 08:08:03
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 04:20:53
    Before I wait for a response from a proxier, what should I expect to pay for shipping a board from Taobao?

    Around $20 on top of the original cost.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:37:22
    Will a mix of Cherry bottoms and Gateron tops, springs, and sliders work as a switch?  I have plate mount Cherry and PCB mount Gateron, and I want to use the Gateron internals on a plate mounted board.  Made a buying mistake.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:39:48
    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:37:22
    Will a mix of Cherry bottoms and Gateron tops, springs, and sliders work as a switch?  I have plate mount Cherry and PCB mount Gateron, and I want to use the Gateron internals on a plate mounted board.  Made a buying mistake.
    Yep. Only thing that doesn't work is putting one's leaf in another. As long as you leave the bottom complete you'll be fine
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:40:15


    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:37:22
    Will a mix of Cherry bottoms and Gateron tops, springs, and sliders work as a switch?  I have plate mount Cherry and PCB mount Gateron, and I want to use the Gateron internals on a plate mounted board.  Made a buying mistake.

    From what I've read the parts are all interchangeable but you could just clip the nubs off the gaterons.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:53:08
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:39:48
    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:37:22
    Will a mix of Cherry bottoms and Gateron tops, springs, and sliders work as a switch?  I have plate mount Cherry and PCB mount Gateron, and I want to use the Gateron internals on a plate mounted board.  Made a buying mistake.
    Yep. Only thing that doesn't work is putting one's leaf in another. As long as you leave the bottom complete you'll be fine

    Thanks, hood, these are the ones I bought from you at Keycon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:54:02
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:40:15


    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:37:22
    Will a mix of Cherry bottoms and Gateron tops, springs, and sliders work as a switch?  I have plate mount Cherry and PCB mount Gateron, and I want to use the Gateron internals on a plate mounted board.  Made a buying mistake.

    From what I've read the parts are all interchangeable but you could just clip the nubs off the gaterons.

    Tried that, don't have a good enough clipper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:57:05
    Quote from: vivalarevoluci�n on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:53:08
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:39:48
    Quote from: vivalarevoluci�n on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:37:22
    Will a mix of Cherry bottoms and Gateron tops, springs, and sliders work as a switch?  I have plate mount Cherry and PCB mount Gateron, and I want to use the Gateron internals on a plate mounted board.  Made a buying mistake.
    Yep. Only thing that doesn't work is putting one's leaf in another. As long as you leave the bottom complete you'll be fine

    Thanks, hood, these are the ones I bought from you at Keycon.

    Oh nice :thumb:

    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:54:02
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:40:15


    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:37:22
    Will a mix of Cherry bottoms and Gateron tops, springs, and sliders work as a switch?  I have plate mount Cherry and PCB mount Gateron, and I want to use the Gateron internals on a plate mounted board.  Made a buying mistake.

    From what I've read the parts are all interchangeable but you could just clip the nubs off the gaterons.

    Tried that, don't have a good enough clipper.
    A good pair of flush cutters are invaluable
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 25 June 2015, 20:59:20
    Flush cutters. got it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 26 June 2015, 00:43:09
    Got it done, everything works.  Thanks guys. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:11:12
    Anyone ever make an 80/20 keyboard case? I'm thinking of experimenting with the JD45 PCBs I have and 80/20 seems like it could be used to make an interesting case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:12:18
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:11:12
    Anyone ever make an 80/20 keyboard case? I'm thinking of experimenting with the JD45 PCBs I have and 80/20 seems like it could be used to make an interesting case.

    What do you mean by 80/20?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:13:37
    TKL + numpad maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:16:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:12:18
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:11:12
    Anyone ever make an 80/20 keyboard case? I'm thinking of experimenting with the JD45 PCBs I have and 80/20 seems like it could be used to make an interesting case.

    What do you mean by 80/20?
    80/20 extrusion
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:17:36
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:16:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:12:18
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:11:12
    Anyone ever make an 80/20 keyboard case? I'm thinking of experimenting with the JD45 PCBs I have and 80/20 seems like it could be used to make an interesting case.

    What do you mean by 80/20?
    80/20 extrusion

    Yes I've seen a few cases using that but I can't think of the links right now. I want to say that one of the reddit boards had a case like that. I saw one on Geekhack too.

    I'm actually kinda surprised they're not more popular. I think the modularity is really cool

    Edit: For those who don't know what we're talking about, check out this link (http://www.8020.net/).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derezzed on Thu, 02 July 2015, 11:35:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:17:36
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:16:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:12:18
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Fri, 26 June 2015, 10:11:12
    Anyone ever make an 80/20 keyboard case? I'm thinking of experimenting with the JD45 PCBs I have and 80/20 seems like it could be used to make an interesting case.

    What do you mean by 80/20?
    80/20 extrusion

    Yes I've seen a few cases using that but I can't think of the links right now. I want to say that one of the reddit boards had a case like that. I saw one on Geekhack too.

    I'm actually kinda surprised they're not more popular. I think the modularity is really cool

    Edit: For those who don't know what we're talking about, check out this link (http://www.8020.net/).


    Regack's mouthwatering 59% board is built with 80/20

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69978.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69978.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 03 July 2015, 06:34:27
    Im looking for a Pok3r...

    Does anyone know a source that has ansi Pok3r ideally with white case and red (or black) switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mousesony on Fri, 03 July 2015, 06:41:55
    what do they call old black cherry stems that are supposed to be smoother and made out of a different plastic?
    i used to know the term for them but i forgot  :blank:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Fri, 03 July 2015, 07:02:48
    Quote from: mousesony on Fri, 03 July 2015, 06:41:55
    what do they call old black cherry stems that are supposed to be smoother and made out of a different plastic?
    i used to know the term for them but i forgot  :blank:

    vintage
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mousesony on Fri, 03 July 2015, 07:31:36
    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 03 July 2015, 08:42:29
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Fri, 03 July 2015, 06:34:27
    Im looking for a Pok3r...

    Does anyone know a source that has ansi Pok3r ideally with white case and red (or black) switches?
    Does mechanicalkeyboards.Com have it in Stock?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 03 July 2015, 13:08:26
    I HAVN'T SEARCHED FOR IT ON HERE BUT HOW DOES ONE TURN CAPS LOCK OFF ON A HHKB I AM SO CONFUSED TO HOW I PUT IT ON ALSO WHAT SHOULD THE STANDARD DIP SWITCHES BE SET TO? LIKE SO BACK SPACE IS BACK SPACE AND CAPS WORKS


    BUT PLEASE HOW DO I TURN CAPS OFF ;=;
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 03 July 2015, 13:13:39
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Fri, 03 July 2015, 06:34:27
    Im looking for a Pok3r...

    Does anyone know a source that has ansi Pok3r ideally with white case and red (or black) switches?
    Check out some of these stores: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/pok3r#wiki_shopping
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 03 July 2015, 13:22:00
    Quote from: Fire Brand on Fri, 03 July 2015, 13:08:26
    I HAVN'T SEARCHED FOR IT ON HERE BUT HOW DOES ONE TURN CAPS LOCK OFF ON A HHKB I AM SO CONFUSED TO HOW I PUT IT ON ALSO WHAT SHOULD THE STANDARD DIP SWITCHES BE SET TO? LIKE SO BACK SPACE IS BACK SPACE AND CAPS WORKS


    BUT PLEASE HOW DO I TURN CAPS OFF ;=;
    i think I found it only problem is how do you get the actual capslock to work as a caps lock so I don't need to fn it from tab or is it fixed that why? or final question would one od Hasu? controllers fix that letting me programme it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EscapeVelocity on Sat, 04 July 2015, 00:56:59
    Recommend some O-Rings for MX Cherry Switches.

    Is there anything like that for Alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 04 July 2015, 01:59:27
    Quote from: EscapeVelocity on Sat, 04 July 2015, 00:56:59
    Recommend some O-Rings for MX Cherry Switches.

    Is there anything like that for Alps?

    Is the first part a question? If so, I used the ones from wasdkeyboards. I've also used the landing pads from elite keyboards. Lpwl has some for sale that he done a lot of work on.

    And I've never really experimented with our rings and Alps but I can't imagine it would feel very good. The actuation point is so much higher and I feel like Alps would feel very off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sat, 04 July 2015, 05:39:29
    EliteKeyboards' soft-landing pads work very well with complicated Alps switches IME.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jimmy54669 on Sun, 05 July 2015, 20:14:35
    Hi does someone know what switches the Loewe TBT01 uses? I only found the tbt02 that uses some weird switches and the tbt04 with cherry mx

    http://www.ebay.de/itm/111703710272
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 06 July 2015, 00:49:49
    Is it atypical/sacrilege to put o-rings on a Korean custom? I've got my first coming in soon. I dig the clack, but I also dig the feel of o-rings too.

    Give me a reason not to throw money at MassDrop's o-ring sale right now pls. :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 06 July 2015, 01:12:05
    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 06 July 2015, 00:49:49
    Is it atypical/sacrilege to put o-rings on a Korean custom? I've got my first coming in soon. I dig the clack, but I also dig the feel of o-rings too.

    Give me a reason not to throw money at MassDrop's o-ring sale right now pls. :3
    nope, do whatever makes you happy :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Mon, 06 July 2015, 09:56:05
    Anyone has an idea on what this could possibly be :

    http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/827223905.htm?ca=22_s

    first image reverted it's Azerty with ANSI lShift : http://i.imgur.com/qXxiat6.png
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 06 July 2015, 10:00:34
    Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 06 July 2015, 09:56:05
    Anyone has an idea on what this could possibly be :

    http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/827223905.htm?ca=22_s

    first image reverted it's Azerty with ANSI lShift : http://i.imgur.com/qXxiat6.png
    Looks like a Schneider computer from the label on the back: http://www.silicium.org/oldskool/ibm/europc.htm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 06 July 2015, 20:58:49
    KMAC 1 supports full LED right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 06 July 2015, 20:59:52
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 06 July 2015, 21:00:23
    Quote from: esoomenona on Mon, 06 July 2015, 20:59:52
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 06 July 2015, 20:58:49
    KMAC 1 supports full LED right?

    No. It had LEDs on F row, Esc, and WASD.
    damn, I thought it was weird that everyone had the same LED layout lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 07 July 2015, 01:17:21
    Quote from: wlhlm on Mon, 06 July 2015, 10:00:34
    Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 06 July 2015, 09:56:05
    Anyone has an idea on what this could possibly be :

    http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/827223905.htm?ca=22_s

    first image reverted it's Azerty with ANSI lShift : http://i.imgur.com/qXxiat6.png
    Looks like a Schneider computer from the label on the back: http://www.silicium.org/oldskool/ibm/europc.htm

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 09:56:11
    Is there like a preferred type or brand of rubber feet to apply to the bottom of a HHKB, or will anything do? It slides quite a bit on my desk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 07 July 2015, 19:11:12
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 09:56:11
    Is there like a preferred type or brand of rubber feet to apply to the bottom of a HHKB, or will anything do? It slides quite a bit on my desk.

    Don't know about the HHKB specifically, but when you buy rubber feet you're also buying the adhesive they use. In that sense, you really can't go wrong with 3M.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 07 July 2015, 21:01:50
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 09:56:11
    Is there like a preferred type or brand of rubber feet to apply to the bottom of a HHKB, or will anything do? It slides quite a bit on my desk.

    http://www.amazon.com/Bluelounge-Design-Protective-Tablets-KS-GR/dp/B005J6SRY6

    These have been popular for HHKB specifically.

    But 3M or generic adhesive bumpons would work as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 22:29:49
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 09:56:11
    Is there like a preferred type or brand of rubber feet to apply to the bottom of a HHKB, or will anything do? It slides quite a bit on my desk.

    Ended up picking these (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NG3Z0S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00) up. We will see how they work  :thumb: I just hope they are not too big for the application.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Wed, 08 July 2015, 08:21:51
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 22:29:49
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 09:56:11
    Is there like a preferred type or brand of rubber feet to apply to the bottom of a HHKB, or will anything do? It slides quite a bit on my desk.

    Ended up picking these (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NG3Z0S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00) up. We will see how they work  :thumb: I just hope they are not too big for the application.

    Looks like they're less than 3/32" high. That's pretty shallow, I doubt you'll notice much of a difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Wed, 08 July 2015, 09:59:13
    Quote from: njbair on Wed, 08 July 2015, 08:21:51
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 22:29:49
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 09:56:11
    Is there like a preferred type or brand of rubber feet to apply to the bottom of a HHKB, or will anything do? It slides quite a bit on my desk.

    Ended up picking these (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NG3Z0S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00) up. We will see how they work  :thumb: I just hope they are not too big for the application.



    Looks like they're less than 3/32" high. That's pretty shallow, I doubt you'll notice much of a difference.

    I just thought about this, if they are shorter than the stock plastic circle feet they will do me no good, I suppose I could always stick them on top though. I really should have looked into the sizes more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 08 July 2015, 11:05:41
    Are there any Taobao proxies on here that are responding to pms?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Wed, 08 July 2015, 11:16:42
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 08 July 2015, 11:05:41
    Are there any Taobao proxies on here that are responding to pms?

    considering qtan and feng are hard to work with, no.
    professional proxies like taobaofocus work well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clacktalk on Wed, 08 July 2015, 21:59:45
    i want to modify the usb cable so that instead of a usb male, it has a short miniusb female end so I can hotswap keyboards more easily. i want to know if it's possible and would appreciate as much information as you're willing to part with.

    the keyboard in question is the Cheat, if that even matters. if this isn't possible, I'm selling this baby because this is a dealbreaker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 08 July 2015, 22:29:20
    You can likely replace the cable.

    http://imgur.com/a/3NrMd
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Alpsie on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:57:23
    Hi all,

    I´m currently waiting for the keypop coffee 2.0 set to be produced and mailed, but as I´m currenlt using a CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate I need to replace it with a keyboard thats compatible with the set.
    I need it to be brown switches, backlight is not needed. These are the ones that are available to me since I need one that is ISO http://www.prisjakt.nu/kategori.php?m=s227629919\. but I can also get a filco Majestouch 2 which one would you choose?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 09 July 2015, 05:53:53
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 09:56:11
    Is there like a preferred type or brand of rubber feet to apply to the bottom of a HHKB, or will anything do? It slides quite a bit on my desk.

    I use a sheet of drawer liner.  As well as stopping the HHKB from sliding across the desk, it also dampens the echo of my typing reverberating from the desk, so I can enjoy the thock a bit more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 July 2015, 07:35:36
    Quote from: clacktalk on Wed, 08 July 2015, 21:59:45
    i want to modify the usb cable so that instead of a usb male, it has a short miniusb female end so I can hotswap keyboards more easily. i want to know if it's possible and would appreciate as much information as you're willing to part with.

    the keyboard in question is the Cheat, if that even matters. if this isn't possible, I'm selling this baby because this is a dealbreaker.

    You've got two options. Buy the female end and swap it on or purchase a male to female cable from your favorite cable supplier. If you do it yourself, you can find pinouts for USB cables online and then splice the female cable to the male one. Then cover with heat shrink or the cover of your choosing. Then swap the cable on your Cheat. I don't know how the cable is attached to the PCB but I'll assume that it's either soldered on or fits in like a Filco with a connector. Either way, I don't think it's very hard to make what you want happen.

    Quote from: Alpsie on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:57:23
    Hi all,

    I´m currently waiting for the keypop coffee 2.0 set to be produced and mailed, but as I´m currenlt using a CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate I need to replace it with a keyboard thats compatible with the set.
    I need it to be brown switches, backlight is not needed. These are the ones that are available to me since I need one that is ISO http://www.prisjakt.nu/kategori.php?m=s227629919\. but I can also get a filco Majestouch 2 which one would you choose?

    Is the Coffee set going to be iso compatible? I honestly don't know. Something to check out.

     I'd take the Ducky honestly. I think the keycaps are decent quality, the PCB is amazing to work on, the construction is quality, and a great board all around. Either that or the Filco.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Alpsie on Thu, 09 July 2015, 07:59:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 July 2015, 07:35:36
    Quote from: clacktalk on Wed, 08 July 2015, 21:59:45
    i want to modify the usb cable so that instead of a usb male, it has a short miniusb female end so I can hotswap keyboards more easily. i want to know if it's possible and would appreciate as much information as you're willing to part with.

    the keyboard in question is the Cheat, if that even matters. if this isn't possible, I'm selling this baby because this is a dealbreaker.

    You've got two options. Buy the female end and swap it on or purchase a male to female cable from your favorite cable supplier. If you do it yourself, you can find pinouts for USB cables online and then splice the female cable to the male one. Then cover with heat shrink or the cover of your choosing. Then swap the cable on your Cheat. I don't know how the cable is attached to the PCB but I'll assume that it's either soldered on or fits in like a Filco with a connector. Either way, I don't think it's very hard to make what you want happen.

    Quote from: Alpsie on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:57:23
    Hi all,

    I´m currently waiting for the keypop coffee 2.0 set to be produced and mailed, but as I´m currenlt using a CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate I need to replace it with a keyboard thats compatible with the set.
    I need it to be brown switches, backlight is not needed. These are the ones that are available to me since I need one that is ISO http://www.prisjakt.nu/kategori.php?m=s227629919\. but I can also get a filco Majestouch 2 which one would you choose?

    Is the Coffee set going to be iso compatible? I honestly don't know. Something to check out.

     I'd take the Ducky honestly. I think the keycaps are decent quality, the PCB is amazing to work on, the construction is quality, and a great board all around. Either that or the Filco.
    Thanks for the reply,  i bought the ISO addon so it is compatible,  is there a certain version of the ducky that tou would advice more than other versions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 July 2015, 08:24:32
    Quote from: Alpsie on Thu, 09 July 2015, 07:59:14
    Is there a certain version of the ducky that tou would advice more than other versions?

    I like the Shine 2-4.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 09 July 2015, 08:42:39
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 09 July 2015, 09:04:01
    Quote from: esoomenona on Thu, 09 July 2015, 08:42:39
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:29:19
    Is there a programmable TKL that can be acquired?
    By acquired I mean 1-2 months lead time and not something like 7 months

    I guess winkeyless.kr is the sanest option
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:35:44
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:29:19
    Is there a programmable TKL that can be acquired?
    By acquired I mean 1-2 months lead time and not something like 7 months

    I guess winkeyless.kr is the sanest option

    GON, Phantom (if the PCB is still being sold at MK.com), any board that will work with bpiphany's controllers (I think there's a Filco Majestouch and QFR controller)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:38:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:35:44
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:29:19
    Is there a programmable TKL that can be acquired?
    By acquired I mean 1-2 months lead time and not something like 7 months

    I guess winkeyless.kr is the sanest option

    GON, Phantom (if the PCB is still being sold at MK.com), any board that will work with bpiphany's controllers (I think there's a Filco Majestouch and QFR controller)

    I have WASD's that I enjoy using, but never seen a controller for them, they are theoretically compatible, is there one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:41:03
    Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 09 July 2015, 05:53:53
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 07 July 2015, 09:56:11
    Is there like a preferred type or brand of rubber feet to apply to the bottom of a HHKB, or will anything do? It slides quite a bit on my desk.

    I use a sheet of drawer liner.  As well as stopping the HHKB from sliding across the desk, it also dampens the echo of my typing reverberating from the desk, so I can enjoy the thock a bit more.

    I will see how the stick on feet work (assuming the size I ordered is even usable) and then maybe move towards a solution like yours.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Thu, 09 July 2015, 14:27:10
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:38:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:35:44
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:29:19
    Is there a programmable TKL that can be acquired?
    By acquired I mean 1-2 months lead time and not something like 7 months

    I guess winkeyless.kr is the sanest option

    GON, Phantom (if the PCB is still being sold at MK.com), any board that will work with bpiphany's controllers (I think there's a Filco Majestouch and QFR controller)

    I have WASD's that I enjoy using, but never seen a controller for them, they are theoretically compatible, is there one?
    All Costar-compatible controllers by bpiphany should be listed here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Costar_replacement_controllers).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 10 July 2015, 01:18:38
    Quote from: davkol on Thu, 09 July 2015, 14:27:10
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:38:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:35:44
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:29:19
    Is there a programmable TKL that can be acquired?
    By acquired I mean 1-2 months lead time and not something like 7 months

    I guess winkeyless.kr is the sanest option

    GON, Phantom (if the PCB is still being sold at MK.com), any board that will work with bpiphany's controllers (I think there's a Filco Majestouch and QFR controller)

    I have WASD's that I enjoy using, but never seen a controller for them, they are theoretically compatible, is there one?
    All Costar-compatible controllers by bpiphany should be listed here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Costar_replacement_controllers).

    They all seem to be incompatible, bummer: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46700.msg1399765#msg1399765
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:58:34
    Who is the best taobao agent?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:07:45
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:58:34
    Who is the best taobao agent?

    Taobaofocus has always worked well for me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shaymdev on Fri, 10 July 2015, 17:52:47
    Is there problem with cutting away a piece of the bottom switch casing? I need a little bit of extra space in my custom build. See the little black line on the switch in the picture. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/10/9e5078d7f5b46dc690434a3f59cc9065.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 July 2015, 17:58:02
    Quote from: shaymdev on Fri, 10 July 2015, 17:52:47
    Is there problem with cutting away a piece of the bottom switch casing? I need a little bit of extra space in my custom build. See the little black line on the switch in the picture.
    Show Image
    (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/10/9e5078d7f5b46dc690434a3f59cc9065.jpg)


    Probably not. You'll wanna make sure you don't mess with how that leaf switch is being held but other than that, I'm not sure there's any issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 12 July 2015, 03:24:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 July 2015, 08:24:32
    Quote from: Alpsie on Thu, 09 July 2015, 07:59:14
    Is there a certain version of the ducky that tou would advice more than other versions?

    I like the Shine 2-4.

    On this, the Shine 1 did not remember backlighting settings after the computer was powered off or rebooted.  I think the Shine 2, definitely the Shine 3, fixed this and remembers backlight settings across reboots.  We well as introducing a lot of new backlight modes.

    Quote from: bcredbottle on Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:58:34
    Who is the best taobao agent?

    qtan offers this service (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32072.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 12 July 2015, 14:41:11
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 12 July 2015, 03:24:44
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:58:34
    Who is the best taobao agent?

    qtan offers this service (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32072.0).

    He's really hit or miss responding in a timely manner though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 12 July 2015, 22:34:41
    Does anyone know of a good anodizing service? I thought it might be better to see if anyone hear has had good luck, which would cut out some time for me searching. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 13 July 2015, 13:27:22
    Gonna try again, anyone know how to go about programming a 456?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Alpsie on Mon, 13 July 2015, 14:52:39
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 12 July 2015, 03:24:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 July 2015, 08:24:32
    Quote from: Alpsie on Thu, 09 July 2015, 07:59:14
    Is there a certain version of the ducky that tou would advice more than other versions?

    I like the Shine 2-4.

    On this, the Shine 1 did not remember backlighting settings after the computer was powered off or rebooted.  I think the Shine 2, definitely the Shine 3, fixed this and remembers backlight settings across reboots.  We well as introducing a lot of new backlight modes.

    Quote from: bcredbottle on Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:58:34
    Who is the best taobao agent?

    qtan offers this service (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32072.0).
    Thanks Rowdy, just got the shine 4 today and I like it. it feels nicer to type on compared to my older board, so Ill send the old one back to Denmark for my brother to use :) He is currently using a membrane so I´ll spread the joy of mechanical.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 13 July 2015, 16:59:56
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 13 July 2015, 13:27:22
    Gonna try again, anyone know how to go about programming a 456?
    Did you try asking meiosis? I think he's still got one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 13 July 2015, 17:32:03
    If I'm hand-wiring a keyboard, what type/gauge wire do I need? I can't seem to find comprehensive parts list in the BrownFox guide or in the sticky at the top of the making stuff together! board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 13 July 2015, 18:55:47
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Mon, 13 July 2015, 17:32:03
    If I'm hand-wiring a keyboard, what type/gauge wire do I need? I can't seem to find comprehensive parts list in the BrownFox guide or in the sticky at the top of the making stuff together! board

    You can use whatever's convenient, really. If you want to use wire in addition to the diodes (I think the BrownFox just used diode leads in lieu of extra wire), 24 AWG should be okay, but it still might be thicker than what you need. If you just need a little bit of wire, cutting up an old IDE/PATA or floppy ribbon cable should get you more than enough, as should sacrificing a short cat5 ethernet cable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: faxe on Tue, 14 July 2015, 06:28:00
    What makes a switch vintage? The fact that it has been pulled from an old board? If yes, how old does the board have to be?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Tue, 14 July 2015, 07:05:27
    Quote from: faxe on Tue, 14 July 2015, 06:28:00
    What makes a switch vintage? The fact that it has been pulled from an old board? If yes, how old does the board have to be?
    Generally, 20+ years old.

    If you mean Cherry MX switches specifically, those made in the 80's or early 90's are slightly different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 14 July 2015, 16:02:12
    Can anyone with a GON keyboard tell me how tall the middle polycarbonate layer is? I'm trying to work on a piece for a case, but I need a general idea before I go on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 14 July 2015, 19:30:08
    Personally I consider 1999 the cutoff for vintage keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 July 2015, 19:48:18
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 14 July 2015, 16:02:12
    Can anyone with a GON keyboard tell me how tall the middle polycarbonate layer is? I'm trying to work on a piece for a case, but I need a general idea before I go on.

    If you don't get the answer here, Try asking in GON's question thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43915.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Wed, 15 July 2015, 05:50:36
    I'm in the middle of domeswapping my Novatouch to 55g. I put the domes in, then the springs, and screwed the PCB back on. I've gone through that whole process twice, and both times all the keys feel fine except the shift keys, which both feel sluggish. Is there something different about stabilised keys, or do I just need to reposition the domes and try again?

    The other stabilised keys are fine.

    Edit: I also put my Realforce back together. I overestimated how compatible the Novatouch domes would be. The entire nav cluster, and the right-hand win/menu/ctrl are non-functional. Do you need to cut the dome sheet from the Novatouch to fit the slightly non-standard layout of the Realforce?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:14:17
    Alright, I'm looking to buy a b.mini for my gf and I was wondering which 6.25x spacebar is switch position more versatile? Majestouch (centered) or Cherry (off center)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:42:31
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 July 2015, 21:14:08
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:42:31
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:14:17
    Alright, I'm looking to buy a b.mini for my gf and I was wondering which 6.25x spacebar is switch position more versatile? Majestouch (centered) or Cherry (off center)?

    What is a b.mini? Also, if by more versatile, you mean most common and more readily available, I'd say centered.
    Agreed. The b. Mini is a pcb right?



    Quote from: Ludovician on Wed, 15 July 2015, 05:50:36
    More

    I'm in the middle of domeswapping my Novatouch to 55g. I put the domes in, then the springs, and screwed the PCB back on. I've gone through that whole process twice, and both times all the keys feel fine except the shift keys, which both feel sluggish. Is there something different about stabilised keys, or do I just need to reposition the domes and try again?

    The other stabilised keys are fine.

    Edit: I also put my Realforce back together. I overestimated how compatible the Novatouch domes would be. The entire nav cluster, and the right-hand win/menu/ctrl are non-functional. Do you need to cut the dome sheet from the Novatouch to fit the slightly non-standard layout of the Realforce?


    Realizing more and more what a gaping home my lack of Topre knowledge is. I really should sit down and grill 002.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 15 July 2015, 21:19:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 July 2015, 21:14:08
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:42:31
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:14:17
    Alright, I'm looking to buy a b.mini for my gf and I was wondering which 6.25x spacebar is switch position more versatile? Majestouch (centered) or Cherry (off center)?

    What is a b.mini? Also, if by more versatile, you mean most common and more readily available, I'd say centered.
    Agreed. The b. Mini is a pcb right?

    Yep, it's winkeyless' 75% PCB
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 15 July 2015, 22:01:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 July 2015, 21:14:08
    Quote from: esoomenona on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:42:31
    Quote from: Dreamre on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:14:17
    Alright, I'm looking to buy a b.mini for my gf and I was wondering which 6.25x spacebar is switch position more versatile? Majestouch (centered) or Cherry (off center)?

    What is a b.mini? Also, if by more versatile, you mean most common and more readily available, I'd say centered.
    Agreed. The b. Mini is a pcb right?



    Quote from: Ludovician on Wed, 15 July 2015, 05:50:36
    More

    I'm in the middle of domeswapping my Novatouch to 55g. I put the domes in, then the springs, and screwed the PCB back on. I've gone through that whole process twice, and both times all the keys feel fine except the shift keys, which both feel sluggish. Is there something different about stabilised keys, or do I just need to reposition the domes and try again?

    The other stabilised keys are fine.

    Edit: I also put my Realforce back together. I overestimated how compatible the Novatouch domes would be. The entire nav cluster, and the right-hand win/menu/ctrl are non-functional. Do you need to cut the dome sheet from the Novatouch to fit the slightly non-standard layout of the Realforce?


    Realizing more and more what a gaping home my lack of Topre knowledge is. I really should sit down and grill 002.

    Alright, I'll go with the center one. Thanks guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shaymdev on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:46:32
    Are there any good cherry clear clones? Specifically any with the transparent casing?
    I know Gateron clears are just linear 35g... I'm looking for the bigger tactile bump that the cherry clear offers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:49:01
    Quote from: shaymdev on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:46:32
    Are there any good cherry clear clones? Specifically any with the transparent casing?
    I know Gateron clears are just linear 35g... I'm looking for the bigger tactile bump that the cherry clear offers.

    Gateron sadly doesn't offer a mx clear alternative.

    Their browns are quite similar to the mx browns.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shaymdev on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:50:23
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:49:01
    Quote from: shaymdev on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:46:32
    Are there any good cherry clear clones? Specifically any with the transparent casing?
    I know Gateron clears are just linear 35g... I'm looking for the bigger tactile bump that the cherry clear offers.

    Gateron sadly doesn't offer a mx clear alternative.

    Their browns are quite similar to the mx browns.
    What about the other switch makers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:53:44
    Quote from: shaymdev on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:50:23
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:49:01
    Quote from: shaymdev on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:46:32
    Are there any good cherry clear clones? Specifically any with the transparent casing?
    I know Gateron clears are just linear 35g... I'm looking for the bigger tactile bump that the cherry clear offers.

    Gateron sadly doesn't offer a mx clear alternative.

    Their browns are quite similar to the mx browns.
    What about the other switch makers?

    Nothing I have heard of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 July 2015, 09:26:23
    Quote from: shaymdev on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:50:23
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:49:01
    Quote from: shaymdev on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:46:32
    Are there any good cherry clear clones? Specifically any with the transparent casing?
    I know Gateron clears are just linear 35g... I'm looking for the bigger tactile bump that the cherry clear offers.

    Gateron sadly doesn't offer a mx clear alternative.

    Their browns are quite similar to the mx browns.
    What about the other switch makers?

    I thought the Gateron Browns felt like MX Clears personally. Kailh Browns kind of reminded me of ergo-clears (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65164.0). I tried a random Taobao pink stem (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67733.0) that was supposed to be like MX clears. But it was garbage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 16 July 2015, 17:30:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 July 2015, 09:26:23
    I thought the Gateron Browns felt like MX Clears personally. Kailh Browns kind of reminded me of ergo-clears (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65164.0). I tried a random Taobao pink stem (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67733.0) that was supposed to be like MX clears. But it was garbage.

    Got a link for those pink switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 July 2015, 17:32:09
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 16 July 2015, 17:30:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 July 2015, 09:26:23
    I thought the Gateron Browns felt like MX Clears personally. Kailh Browns kind of reminded me of ergo-clears (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65164.0). I tried a random Taobao pink stem (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67733.0) that was supposed to be like MX clears. But it was garbage.

    Got a link for those pink switches?

    I don't. Nubbinator would know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shaymdev on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:11:30
    I'm trying to figure out the wiring of the 5x5 matrix. Is there any functional difference with where I connect the column? Below are two examples, rows in red, columns in blue. The left inner most three keys are a 'row' and need to be connected to the columns.

    I've got one example where they all connect to the top of the other columns. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/17/554eaded667c4b36b3bf260b55a45261.jpg)

    And one example where they connect in random (easy to reach) parts of the column. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/17/1da2a204217835711ad11ecf303d5d6a.jpg)

    So is there any difference in function? Will they both be programmed the exact same way?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:11:58
    Quote from: shaymdev on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:11:30
    I'm trying to figure out the wiring of the 5x5 matrix. Is there any functional difference with where I connect the column? Below are two examples, rows in red, columns in blue. The left inner most three keys are a 'row' and need to be connected to the columns.

    I've got one example where they all connect to the top of the other columns. (Attachment Link)

    And one example where they connect in random (easy to reach) parts of the column. (Attachment Link)

    So is there any difference in function? Will they both be programmed the exact same way?

    Your pictures didn't work :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shaymdev on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:14:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:11:58
    Quote from: shaymdev on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:11:30
    I'm trying to figure out the wiring of the 5x5 matrix. Is there any functional difference with where I connect the column? Below are two examples, rows in red, columns in blue. The left inner most three keys are a 'row' and need to be connected to the columns.

    I've got one example where they all connect to the top of the other columns. (Attachment Link)

    And one example where they connect in random (easy to reach) parts of the column. (Attachment Link)

    So is there any difference in function? Will they both be programmed the exact same way?

    Your pictures didn't work :(
    Edited post. Now did they?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:19:25
    Quote from: shaymdev on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:14:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:11:58
    Quote from: shaymdev on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:11:30
    I'm trying to figure out the wiring of the 5x5 matrix. Is there any functional difference with where I connect the column? Below are two examples, rows in red, columns in blue. The left inner most three keys are a 'row' and need to be connected to the columns.

    I've got one example where they all connect to the top of the other columns. (Attachment Link)

    And one example where they connect in random (easy to reach) parts of the column. (Attachment Link)

    So is there any difference in function? Will they both be programmed the exact same way?

    Your pictures didn't work :(
    Edited post. Now did they?

    Works for me.

    Those appear to be the same electrically. It may actually be easier in terms of cable runs to do the first option, that way you don't need to solder a T-joint. The software only cares about the intersection of a row and a column, it doesn't care about the relationship between different switches in the same column. However, it will make a functional difference how you connect your diodes, if you use them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:21:58
    Quote from: shaymdev on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:14:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:11:58
    Quote from: shaymdev on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:11:30
    I'm trying to figure out the wiring of the 5x5 matrix. Is there any functional difference with where I connect the column? Below are two examples, rows in red, columns in blue. The left inner most three keys are a 'row' and need to be connected to the columns.

    I've got one example where they all connect to the top of the other columns. (Attachment Link)

    And one example where they connect in random (easy to reach) parts of the column. (Attachment Link)

    So is there any difference in function? Will they both be programmed the exact same way?

    Your pictures didn't work :(
    Edited post. Now did they?

    Looks like you're just routing the cables in two different ways? Seems like it doesn't matter how you route the wires, only how which legs are hooked up (http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Hard-Wiring_How-To#How_To_Hard-Wire_a_Keyboard).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shaymdev on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:33:15
    Awesome that's what I was thinking but I wanted to make sure. Now I can hopefully make the wiring somewhat tidy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueNalgene on Sat, 18 July 2015, 21:16:50
    I'm messing with a Model M, and I can't tell if my problems are hardware or software.

    When you plug in your Model M, what happens?

    When this one gets power, all three lock LEDs come on, then shut off after ~1s.  When I try to type, nothing.  When I press one of the lock buttons, none of the lights change.


    edit: It was a firmware problem.  No longer a Simple Question(tm), moving this to a different thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 18 July 2015, 22:30:53
    PS/2 keyboards need to be discovered at boot-up.

    Hot-plugging won't work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 18 July 2015, 22:46:08
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 18 July 2015, 22:30:53
    PS/2 keyboards need to be discovered at boot-up.

    Hot-plugging won't work.

    And it's always worth mentioning that it's also dangerous to your PC and keyboard.

    Unless you have a USB-to-PS2 adapter. Those are hotplug safe and seem to work fine after boot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Snarfangel on Sun, 19 July 2015, 22:52:27
    I recently purchased a Maltron 2-handed keyboard, and Soarer's converter from Orihalcon. Everything is working well (I'm using it right now to type on), but I would like to reprogram the layout extensively. Reassigning letters is easy enough, but  would like to split some of the punctuation (like moving the ' and " to two completely separate unshifted keys), and move the number keys up one row to the current function keys. Finally, I would like to make F1-F10 available by shift+number (F10 would be shift-0). Here is a picture to illustrate what it looks like currently on the left side of the keyboard:
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/8YMAAOSwPhdVTSNo/$_57.JPG)

    I think my problem is that I'm not sure whether shift is treated like a function that accesses a different layer (which would make lower case letters, functions, some punctuation, and numbers on one layer, and upper case letters and most punctuation as a different layer), or if it acts as a macro trigger, or maybe something else entirely. I would like to use the most elegant solution, so if anyone can point me to code (even a single example!) that shows how to accomplish A) Moving shifted punctuation to another unshifted key, and B) Making a function key (say, F1) a shift+number setting, I would be very thankful! ;D

    Hope that's simple enough. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Mon, 20 July 2015, 02:40:21
    Is there any information that I could have possibly missed on when the new CTRL[ALT] store / Penumbra R2 is going to happen, or is it just remaining at soon for the time being?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 06:45:32
    Quote from: Snarfangel on Sun, 19 July 2015, 22:52:27
    I recently purchased a Maltron 2-handed keyboard, and Soarer's converter from Orihalcon. Everything is working well (I'm using it right now to type on), but I would like to reprogram the layout extensively.

    More
    Reassigning letters is easy enough, but  would like to split some of the punctuation (like moving the ' and " to two completely separate unshifted keys), and move the number keys up one row to the current function keys. Finally, I would like to make F1-F10 available by shift+number (F10 would be shift-0). Here is a picture to illustrate what it looks like currently on the left side of the keyboard:
    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/8YMAAOSwPhdVTSNo/$_57.JPG)


    I think my problem is that I'm not sure whether shift is treated like a function that accesses a different layer (which would make lower case letters, functions, some punctuation, and numbers on one layer, and upper case letters and most punctuation as a different layer), or if it acts as a macro trigger, or maybe something else entirely. I would like to use the most elegant solution, so if anyone can point me to code (even a single example!) that shows how to accomplish A) Moving shifted punctuation to another unshifted key, and B) Making a function key (say, F1) a shift+number setting, I would be very thankful! ;D

    Hope that's simple enough. Thanks!

    I'm not an expert of the Soarer converter but can't you just tweak the TMK or EasyAVR firmware to fit your need? Seems like what you're asking is very simple.

    Quote from: Bomble on Mon, 20 July 2015, 02:40:21
    Is there any information that I could have possibly missed on when the new CTRL[ALT] store / Penumbra R2 is going to happen, or is it just remaining at soon for the time being?

    I've not heard anything about either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Mon, 20 July 2015, 07:31:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 06:45:32
    Quote from: Bomble on Mon, 20 July 2015, 02:40:21
    Is there any information that I could have possibly missed on when the new CTRL[ALT] store / Penumbra R2 is going to happen, or is it just remaining at soon for the time being?

    I've not heard anything about either.

    Awesome, I was worried I'd missed something. Cheers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:55:53
    Who's Leeku?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:58:41
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:55:53
    Who's Leeku?
    PCB maker, he is most known for on here as the maker of the 1800 and 3000 layout compatible PCBs, which are good for people restoring old boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:02:22
    Quote from: sethk_ on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:58:41
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:55:53
    Who's Leeku?
    PCB maker, he is most known for on here as the maker of the 1800 and 3000 layout compatible PCBs, which are good for people restoring old boards.

    So he comes from one of the Korean keyboard communities or? Anything else he designed yet expect those two PCBs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:05:12
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:02:22
    Quote from: sethk_ on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:58:41
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:55:53
    Who's Leeku?
    PCB maker, he is most known for on here as the maker of the 1800 and 3000 layout compatible PCBs, which are good for people restoring old boards.

    So he comes from one of the Korean keyboard communities or? Anything else he designed yet expect those two PCBs?
    Yeah, my bad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:07:44
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:02:22
    Quote from: sethk_ on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:58:41
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:55:53
    Who's Leeku?
    PCB maker, he is most known for on here as the maker of the 1800 and 3000 layout compatible PCBs, which are good for people restoring old boards.

    So he comes from one of the Korean keyboard communities or? Anything else he designed yet expect those two PCBs?

    Yes he's from the Korean keyboard communities. AFAIK, he's only made those two PCBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:13:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:07:44
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:02:22
    Quote from: sethk_ on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:58:41
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:55:53
    Who's Leeku?
    PCB maker, he is most known for on here as the maker of the 1800 and 3000 layout compatible PCBs, which are good for people restoring old boards.

    So he comes from one of the Korean keyboard communities or? Anything else he designed yet expect those two PCBs?

    Yes he's from the Korean keyboard communities. AFAIK, he's only made those two PCBs.
    He also has made the LZ-SQ PCB, a 75% PCB, a 60% PCB. I think he makes the PCBs for LZ
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:17:27
    I was thinking of all more or less relatively available (not one or two offs) custom 75% keyboards on the market:

    "Upcoming" Leeku 75%;
    Duck Octagon;
    Various MX Mini iterations (Gon, Kaliet, LifeZone, Sprit, Winkeyless);
    Red Scarf 3 84.

    Anyone have something else to add? Don't think i missed anything.

    Can anyone educate about Red Scarf, is it some Chinese designer/project?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:21:08
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:17:27
    More
    I was thinking of all more or less relatively available (not one or two offs) custom 75% keyboards on the market:

    "Upcoming" Leeku 75%;
    Duck Octagon;
    Various MX Mini iterations (Gon, Kaliet, LifeZone, Sprit, Winkeyless);
    Red Scarf 3 84.


    1) Anyone have something else to add? Don't think i missed anything.

    2) Can anyone educate about Red Scarf, is it some Chinese designer/project?

    1) Seems right to me.

    2) Yup, it's a keyboard and PCB out of one of the Chinese communities.


    Quote from: sethk_ on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:13:25
    He also has made the LZ-SQ PCB, a 75% PCB, a 60% PCB. I think he makes the PCBs for LZ

    Cool thanks for the info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Snarfangel on Mon, 20 July 2015, 18:43:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 06:45:32
    Quote from: Snarfangel on Sun, 19 July 2015, 22:52:27
    I recently purchased a Maltron 2-handed keyboard, and Soarer's converter from Orihalcon. Everything is working well (I'm using it right now to type on), but I would like to reprogram the layout extensively.

    More
    Reassigning letters is easy enough, but  would like to split some of the punctuation (like moving the ' and " to two completely separate unshifted keys), and move the number keys up one row to the current function keys. Finally, I would like to make F1-F10 available by shift+number (F10 would be shift-0). Here is a picture to illustrate what it looks like currently on the left side of the keyboard:
    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/8YMAAOSwPhdVTSNo/$_57.JPG)


    I think my problem is that I'm not sure whether shift is treated like a function that accesses a different layer (which would make lower case letters, functions, some punctuation, and numbers on one layer, and upper case letters and most punctuation as a different layer), or if it acts as a macro trigger, or maybe something else entirely. I would like to use the most elegant solution, so if anyone can point me to code (even a single example!) that shows how to accomplish A) Moving shifted punctuation to another unshifted key, and B) Making a function key (say, F1) a shift+number setting, I would be very thankful! ;D

    Hope that's simple enough. Thanks!

    I'm not an expert of the Soarer converter but can't you just tweak the TMK or EasyAVR firmware to fit your need? Seems like what you're asking is very simple.

    Quote from: Bomble on Mon, 20 July 2015, 02:40:21
    Is there any information that I could have possibly missed on when the new CTRL[ALT] store / Penumbra R2 is going to happen, or is it just remaining at soon for the time being?

    I've not heard anything about either.

    Thanks, I will try them out!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:33:00
    Quote from: Snarfangel on Sun, 19 July 2015, 22:52:27
    I recently purchased a Maltron 2-handed keyboard, and Soarer's converter from Orihalcon. Everything is working well (I'm using it right now to type on), but I would like to reprogram the layout extensively. Reassigning letters is easy enough, but  would like to split some of the punctuation (like moving the ' and " to two completely separate unshifted keys), and move the number keys up one row to the current function keys. Finally, I would like to make F1-F10 available by shift+number (F10 would be shift-0). Here is a picture to illustrate what it looks like currently on the left side of the keyboard:
    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/8YMAAOSwPhdVTSNo/$_57.JPG)


    I think my problem is that I'm not sure whether shift is treated like a function that accesses a different layer (which would make lower case letters, functions, some punctuation, and numbers on one layer, and upper case letters and most punctuation as a different layer), or if it acts as a macro trigger, or maybe something else entirely. I would like to use the most elegant solution, so if anyone can point me to code (even a single example!) that shows how to accomplish A) Moving shifted punctuation to another unshifted key, and B) Making a function key (say, F1) a shift+number setting, I would be very thankful! ;D

    Hope that's simple enough. Thanks!

    I don't think double quote has its own scancode, so to get it to show up in a single keypress you'd probably need to set a macro:

    Code: [Select]
    macro DOUBLE_QUOTE
      PUSH_META CLEAR_META all
      SET_META LSHIFT
      PRESS QUOTE
      POP_ALL_META
    endmacro

    I haven't tested this, just modified something in one of my soarer configs that might suit your needs.

    FWIW I have yet to figure out how to unset an existing shift keypress

    There is also the "official" soarer converter thread, although the man himself isn't really active with it. Maybe others there can help you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:34:45
    ok so does aaaaaaaanyone know anything about programming a 456?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:36:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:34:45
    ok so does aaaaaaaanyone know anything about programming a 456?

    I need to know this too
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:50:24
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:36:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:34:45
    ok so does aaaaaaaanyone know anything about programming a 456?

    I need to know this too

    I've asked like 3 times and apparently no one knows
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:58:04
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:50:24
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:36:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:34:45
    ok so does aaaaaaaanyone know anything about programming a 456?

    I need to know this too

    I've asked like 3 times and apparently no one knows
    Did you try PMing people who own one like I suggested instead of bumping your question? I just sent a bunch of PMs to random people who have owned one in the past.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 22:22:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:58:04
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:50:24
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:36:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:34:45
    ok so does aaaaaaaanyone know anything about programming a 456?

    I need to know this too

    I've asked like 3 times and apparently no one knows
    Did you try PMing people who own one like I suggested instead of bumping your question? I just sent a bunch of PMs to random people who have owned one in the past.
    Sent a few, no response so far. I'll try again
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 21 July 2015, 05:43:15
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:34:45
    ok so does aaaaaaaanyone know anything about programming a 456?

    This thread is for *simple* answers  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 06:54:30


    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 22:22:32
    More

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:58:04
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:50:24
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:36:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:34:45
    ok so does aaaaaaaanyone know anything about programming a 456?

    I need to know this too

    I've asked like 3 times and apparently no one knows
    Did you try PMing people who own one like I suggested instead of bumping your question? I just sent a bunch of PMs to random people who have owned one in the past.



    Sent a few, no response so far. I'll try again

    I got two no ideas right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:05:57
    Are there any custom or otherwise 60% keyboards with added F row on top?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:10:05
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:05:57
    Are there any custom or otherwise 60% keyboards with added F row on top?

    Not that I can think of. Closest thing is probably a 75% like a custom MX Mini, stock Race, or a Keycool Hero.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:14:27
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:05:57
    Are there any custom or otherwise 60% keyboards with added F row on top?

    There was this IC from Margo about a year ago: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64168.msg1501915#msg1501915

    But I don't think it will ever be done.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Snarfangel on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:24:18
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:33:00
    Quote from: Snarfangel on Sun, 19 July 2015, 22:52:27
    I recently purchased a Maltron 2-handed keyboard, and Soarer's converter from Orihalcon. Everything is working well (I'm using it right now to type on), but I would like to reprogram the layout extensively. Reassigning letters is easy enough, but  would like to split some of the punctuation (like moving the ' and " to two completely separate unshifted keys), and move the number keys up one row to the current function keys. Finally, I would like to make F1-F10 available by shift+number (F10 would be shift-0). Here is a picture to illustrate what it looks like currently on the left side of the keyboard:
    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/8YMAAOSwPhdVTSNo/$_57.JPG)


    I think my problem is that I'm not sure whether shift is treated like a function that accesses a different layer (which would make lower case letters, functions, some punctuation, and numbers on one layer, and upper case letters and most punctuation as a different layer), or if it acts as a macro trigger, or maybe something else entirely. I would like to use the most elegant solution, so if anyone can point me to code (even a single example!) that shows how to accomplish A) Moving shifted punctuation to another unshifted key, and B) Making a function key (say, F1) a shift+number setting, I would be very thankful! ;D

    Hope that's simple enough. Thanks!

    I don't think double quote has its own scancode, so to get it to show up in a single keypress you'd probably need to set a macro:

    Code: [Select]
    macro DOUBLE_QUOTE
      PUSH_META CLEAR_META all
      SET_META LSHIFT
      PRESS QUOTE
      POP_ALL_META
    endmacro

    I haven't tested this, just modified something in one of my soarer configs that might suit your needs.

    FWIW I have yet to figure out how to unset an existing shift keypress

    There is also the "official" soarer converter thread, although the man himself isn't really active with it. Maybe others there can help you.


    Thank you! I will play around and see if I can get things to work. But only with a single key at a time, so I don't accidentally make things *too*
    bizarre. :)

    I will check the official Soarer thread. I know he has been gone awhile -- I hope he knows that Geekhackers are worried about him.  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:26:35
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:14:27
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:05:57
    Are there any custom or otherwise 60% keyboards with added F row on top?

    There was this IC from Margo about a year ago: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64168.msg1501915#msg1501915

    But I don't think it will ever be done.

    Looks like this just came out too: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73572.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:17:12
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:05:57
    Are there any custom or otherwise 60% keyboards with added F row on top?
    Like Noppoo Nano75? I don't think I've seen anything. There's one 60% with additional F keys on the side though (thus 70%).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:44:25
    If someone can tell me what controller the 456 GT uses it'd be easier to figure out
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:49:16
    Quote from: Sifo on Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:44:25
    If someone can tell me what controller the 456 GT uses it'd be easier to figure out

    It probably uses the ATmega32A, but I have no way of confirming that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 13:59:04
    When I hold down the 'a' key on my HHKB it only types 1 a and does not repeat.  All the other keys I have tried seem to repeat normally.

    Is this normal behavior?

    Mac OSX by the way
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:03:49
    Quote from: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 13:59:04
    When I hold down the 'a' key on my HHKB it only types 1 a and does not repeat.  All the other keys I have tried seem to repeat normally.

    Is this normal behavior?

    Mac OSX by the way




    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


    Seems like my hhkb repeats!  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:29:23
    Quote from: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 13:59:04
    When I hold down the 'a' key on my HHKB it only types 1 a and does not repeat.  All the other keys I have tried seem to repeat normally.

    Is this normal behavior?

    Mac OSX by the way

    This is the stock HHKB controller?  That's not normal behavior.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:42:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 06:54:30


    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 22:22:32
    More

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:58:04
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:50:24
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:36:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:34:45
    ok so does aaaaaaaanyone know anything about programming a 456?

    I need to know this too

    I've asked like 3 times and apparently no one knows
    Did you try PMing people who own one like I suggested instead of bumping your question? I just sent a bunch of PMs to random people who have owned one in the past.



    Sent a few, no response so far. I'll try again

    I got two no ideas right now.

    ekw808 replied to my PM with this message concerning the matter of reprogramming a 456:

    Quote
    I do not know how to program it, I remember alaric helped me with mine. I do know there are dip switches you can use to change some aspects of the layout, but as I recall, it was not 100% programmable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 21 July 2015, 16:32:37
    I did a boatload of digging on my 356 Mini when I got it, learned a bit which you 456GT guys might be interested in:

    Quote
    The 356mini is different. It uses a different controller. The 356CL, DGE, 360c, 456 use atmega16. The 356mini uses atmega32

    Quote
    They are fairly identical older A87's and OTD pcb.

    I made contact with the guy who wrote a web-based GUI for reprogramming the 356 Mini. It's a GUI that sits on top of an older version of ps2avr, which is what a few others told me to use as well.

    Here's that version of ps2avr: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ps2avr/

    And a link to the GUI that I located: https://mega.co.nz/#!jtRSzKDK!vkxDEQA4AHJn1e2LLFtPYVxRg2H2CfEA8yO3oDwTNVs

    I'll see if I can get a mirror up for some of the other material I have. Any suggestions on a good place to host that stuff?

    Might be nice to start a thread for this.


    Side note: None of the are "programmable" in the friendly sense. They all need to have their firmware flashed with a new layout. I was suggested to get an AVR ISP as well, though I'm not familiar enough with flashing firmware to know how that fits in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 21 July 2015, 16:38:12
    Wait so it's an aikon controller? If so that makes it incredibly easy, if not then I still have no definitive idea. I don't have a 456 GT to play around with myself. I'm 99 percent sure it's fully programmable though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 21 July 2015, 16:40:11
    Quote from: Sifo on Tue, 21 July 2015, 16:38:12
    Wait so it's an aikon controller? If so that makes it incredibly easy, if not then I still have no definitive idea. I don't have a 456 GT to play around with myself. I'm 99 percent sure it's fully programmable though.

    I believe so, or if not it's very close. I'm not educated enough to say for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:16:07
    I remember seeing a post on GH about programming a Leeku PCB and I think it had link to the proper files, does anyone know what I am talking about?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:17:31
    Quote from: sethk_ on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:16:07
    I remember seeing a post on GH about programming a Leeku PCB and I think it had link to the proper files, does anyone know what I am talking about?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72783.0

    This?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:23:37

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:17:31
    Quote from: sethk_ on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:16:07
    I remember seeing a post on GH about programming a Leeku PCB and I think it had link to the proper files, does anyone know what I am talking about?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72783.0

    This?
    I think so, yeah. Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:37:32
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:29:23
    Quote from: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 13:59:04
    When I hold down the 'a' key on my HHKB it only types 1 a and does not repeat.  All the other keys I have tried seem to repeat normally.

    Is this normal behavior?

    Mac OSX by the way

    This is the stock HHKB controller?  That's not normal behavior.

    Yeah completely stock.

    I just did some more testing and a couple of other keys act the same way.  A, C, Y, U, and =

    Also the system recognizes they are being held down because I get diacritical mark options (they pop up when you hold a button down)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:39:21
    Quote from: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:37:32
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:29:23
    Quote from: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 13:59:04
    When I hold down the 'a' key on my HHKB it only types 1 a and does not repeat.  All the other keys I have tried seem to repeat normally.

    Is this normal behavior?

    Mac OSX by the way


    This is the stock HHKB controller?  That's not normal behavior.

    Yeah completely stock.

    I just did some more testing and a couple of other keys act the same way.  A, C, Y, U, and =

    Also the system recognizes they are being held down because I get diacritical mark options (they pop up when you hold a button down)

    I know this is really silly but I thought I'd ask. Did you reboot your computer and plug/unplug your HHKB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 18:38:05
    Yeah I plug and unplug frequently because I use a docked laptop with external monitor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 21 July 2015, 19:57:43
    Quote from: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:37:32
    Yeah completely stock.

    I just did some more testing and a couple of other keys act the same way.  A, C, Y, U, and =

    Also the system recognizes they are being held down because I get diacritical mark options (they pop up when you hold a button down)

    Sounds silly, but have you tried a different keyboard? Same keyboard on a different PC? Looked at the Keyboard settings in System Prefs? Could also try it as a different user on the same PC. I feel like it would be very unusual for it to be an issue with the keyboard itself. Especially if you can type all of A, C, Y, U, and = normally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 22 July 2015, 02:43:30
    Just curious, was there any more keyboards released with Micro USB connection instead of standard Mini USB after WASD V2 release? Custom or mass produced, just anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Wed, 22 July 2015, 05:30:56
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 22 July 2015, 02:43:30
    Just curious, was there any more keyboards released with Micro USB connection instead of standard Mini USB after WASD V2 release? Custom or mass produced, just anything.
    NovaTouch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 22 July 2015, 06:07:25
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 22 July 2015, 05:30:56
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 22 July 2015, 02:43:30
    Just curious, was there any more keyboards released with Micro USB connection instead of standard Mini USB after WASD V2 release? Custom or mass produced, just anything.
    NovaTouch

    Oh so two keyboards - NovaTouch and Rapid-i, that's quite the rate of adoption. From what year was WASD V2 released, 2012/13? With such progress will get there in 2045. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 July 2015, 08:59:18
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:42:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 06:54:30


    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 22:22:32
    More

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:58:04
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:50:24
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:36:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:34:45
    ok so does aaaaaaaanyone know anything about programming a 456?

    I need to know this too

    I've asked like 3 times and apparently no one knows
    Did you try PMing people who own one like I suggested instead of bumping your question? I just sent a bunch of PMs to random people who have owned one in the past.



    Sent a few, no response so far. I'll try again

    I got two no ideas right now.

    ekw808 replied to my PM with this message concerning the matter of reprogramming a 456:

    Quote
    I do not know how to program it, I remember alaric helped me with mine. I do know there are dip switches you can use to change some aspects of the layout, but as I recall, it was not 100% programmable.

    Ghostjuggernaut said that margo baggins might know? Bunnylake might know too since he's got one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cicada88 on Wed, 22 July 2015, 13:30:28
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 21 July 2015, 19:57:43
    Quote from: Cicada88 on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:37:32
    Yeah completely stock.

    I just did some more testing and a couple of other keys act the same way.  A, C, Y, U, and =

    Also the system recognizes they are being held down because I get diacritical mark options (they pop up when you hold a button down)

    Sounds silly, but have you tried a different keyboard? Same keyboard on a different PC? Looked at the Keyboard settings in System Prefs? Could also try it as a different user on the same PC. I feel like it would be very unusual for it to be an issue with the keyboard itself. Especially if you can type all of A, C, Y, U, and = normally.

    Good idea I will try the laptop keyboard and my Filco later today and report back.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 22 July 2015, 13:36:42
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 22 July 2015, 06:07:25
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 22 July 2015, 05:30:56
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 22 July 2015, 02:43:30
    Just curious, was there any more keyboards released with Micro USB connection instead of standard Mini USB after WASD V2 release? Custom or mass produced, just anything.
    NovaTouch

    Oh so two keyboards - NovaTouch and Rapid-i, that's quite the rate of adoption. From what year was WASD V2 released, 2012/13? With such progress will get there in 2045. :D

    WASD V2 (Code) was mid-late 2013. (can't find a source other than people talking about it in late 2013 and I know it wasn't out in 2012 when I bought mine :P )

    I don't really see the need for micro USB in keyboards.  Sure, it's an upgrade, but then you'll need new USB cables if you already have custom cables.  Plus, you're usually not plugging and unplugging all that often (except for those that commute with the board).
    Also, the only USB plug that I've had break on a keyboard was USB micro.  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Wed, 22 July 2015, 14:29:38
    I wouldn't have carry so many cables around, if my keyboard used microUSB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Fri, 24 July 2015, 03:13:46
    Why don't we still have custom keyboards utilizing Cherry MX RGBs? Exclusivity deal ended, not sure if switches are available en mass though. It's not like Korean designers don't redesign PCBs every so often, so i don't get it - what the problem adding controller capable of manipulating RGB switches themselves?

    Any predictions of when, if at all, we'll see such Korean/Chinese custom keyboards popping up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 July 2015, 07:15:49
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Fri, 24 July 2015, 03:13:46
    Why don't we still have custom keyboards utilizing Cherry MX RGBs? Exclusivity deal ended, not sure if switches are available en mass though. It's not like Korean designers don't redesign PCBs every so often, so i don't get it - what the problem adding controller capable of manipulating RGB switches themselves?

    Any predictions of when, if at all, we'll see such Korean/Chinese custom keyboards popping up?

    No one has made those switches available yet. I'm guessing they're expensive in terms of raw cost of the MX RGB switch or the accompanying PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 24 July 2015, 08:25:38
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Fri, 24 July 2015, 03:13:46
    Why don't we still have custom keyboards utilizing Cherry MX RGBs? Exclusivity deal ended, not sure if switches are available en mass though. It's not like Korean designers don't redesign PCBs every so often, so i don't get it - what the problem adding controller capable of manipulating RGB switches themselves?

    Any predictions of when, if at all, we'll see such Korean/Chinese custom keyboards popping up?

    I've heard a rumor that some PCB designers actually are starting to do that.  But that's just a rumor.  :))  We may start to see some pop up in the next year though.

    :circle:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 24 July 2015, 14:49:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 July 2015, 07:15:49
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Fri, 24 July 2015, 03:13:46
    Why don't we still have custom keyboards utilizing Cherry MX RGBs? Exclusivity deal ended, not sure if switches are available en mass though. It's not like Korean designers don't redesign PCBs every so often, so i don't get it - what the problem adding controller capable of manipulating RGB switches themselves?

    Any predictions of when, if at all, we'll see such Korean/Chinese custom keyboards popping up?

    No one has made those switches available yet. I'm guessing they're expensive in terms of raw cost of the MX RGB switch or the accompanying PCB.
    yeah, they require a different controller as well to control the RGB LEDs, it will be exciting when someone does it though!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 24 July 2015, 15:12:37
    Anyone know what size LEDs I'd need for a Filco MJ2?

    Any advice on finding ones with similar brightness/quality/appearance to stock? Not done much work with LEDs before, how do they vary in brightness (assuming equivalently powered)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 July 2015, 15:19:40
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Fri, 24 July 2015, 15:12:37
    1) Anyone know what size LEDs I'd need for a Filco MJ2?

    2) Any advice on finding ones with similar brightness/quality/appearance to stock? Not done much work with LEDs before, how do they vary in brightness (assuming equivalently powered)?

    1) Standard 3mm LEDs

    2) Check these threads out:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37266.5
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 24 July 2015, 15:29:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 July 2015, 15:19:40
    1) Standard 3mm LEDs

    2) Check these threads out:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44798.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37266.5

    I need to get better at searching :P Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 24 July 2015, 20:57:26
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 22 July 2015, 14:29:38
    I wouldn't have carry so many cables around, if my keyboard used microUSB.

    You might like this (http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B002O1S8IE)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuiop on Fri, 24 July 2015, 21:03:19
    I'm trying to get my Kmac2 re-anodized.  I know it's a long shot but can anyone recommend a good shop in the Chicagoland area?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sat, 25 July 2015, 03:25:21
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 24 July 2015, 20:57:26
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 22 July 2015, 14:29:38
    I wouldn't have carry so many cables around, if my keyboard used microUSB.

    You might like this (http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B002O1S8IE)
    But I don't, because it puts additional strain on the connector (ErgoDox) or doesn't fit the cable routing (QFR). I don't see how it's more convenient to carry two things instead of two things either (two cables can be used with two different devices at the same time at the very least).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 25 July 2015, 22:24:34
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 25 July 2015, 03:25:21
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 24 July 2015, 20:57:26
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 22 July 2015, 14:29:38
    I wouldn't have carry so many cables around, if my keyboard used microUSB.

    You might like this (http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B002O1S8IE)
    But I don't, because it puts additional strain on the connector (ErgoDox) or doesn't fit the cable routing (QFR). I don't see how it's more convenient to carry two things instead of two things either (two cables can be used with two different devices at the same time at the very least).

    But it doesn't get tangled.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 25 July 2015, 22:56:18
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 25 July 2015, 03:25:21
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 24 July 2015, 20:57:26
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 22 July 2015, 14:29:38
    I wouldn't have carry so many cables around, if my keyboard used microUSB.

    You might like this (http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B002O1S8IE)
    But I don't, because it puts additional strain on the connector (ErgoDox) or doesn't fit the cable routing (QFR). I don't see how it's more convenient to carry two things instead of two things either (two cables can be used with two different devices at the same time at the very least).

    A while ago I tried something like these with my QFR, and it worked fine. Just try to find one about 6in, or preferably a little longer.

    20cm > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-2-0-female-To-Mini-USB-male-Adapter-Charger-Cable-for-HTC-SAMSUNG-/151572835431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234a71ec67 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-2-0-female-To-Mini-USB-male-Adapter-Charger-Cable-for-HTC-SAMSUNG-/151572835431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234a71ec67)

    25cm > http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-Mini-B-5-Pin-male-to-Micro-female-Adapter-cable-/290598237469?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a901351d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-Mini-B-5-Pin-male-to-Micro-female-Adapter-cable-/290598237469?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a901351d)


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sun, 26 July 2015, 03:32:34
    Awesome. Now I'd have two cables instead of two cables. Except I wouldn't be able to recharge my phone or copy music to my DAP, while using the keyboard.

    I have one short microUSB cable that can charge virtually any modern phone, DAP and e-book reader. It can be used to connect these devices to desktops/laptops. I sometimes carry two around, just in case one fails, I want to charge/connect two devices at the same time or someone asks me to charge their phone. But I have carry around another cable! Because keyboard makers are stuck in 2008. And that cable recently failed on me, thus I couldn't type on my ErgoDox for a day or two. I guess I should had carried *four* cables around just for redundancy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 26 July 2015, 11:33:44
    I can't use the 6u spacebar from  these keycaps (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.msg1771207#msg1771207) because the mounting is off-center, what do?

    Email SP for a quote?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sun, 26 July 2015, 11:41:03
    Quote from: dndliomx on Sun, 26 July 2015, 11:33:44
    I can't use the 6u spacebar from  these keycaps (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.msg1771207#msg1771207) because the mounting is off-center, what do?

    Email SP for a quote?

    SP won't have cherry profile.

    You could try to cut the mounting, and glue it back with epoxy

    exemples here : https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/modifications#wiki_key_stem_modifications
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 26 July 2015, 12:00:16
    Would a DCS spacebar on Cherry look weird?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sun, 26 July 2015, 12:03:16
    Quote from: dndliomx on Sun, 26 July 2015, 12:00:16
    Would a DCS spacebar on Cherry look weird?

    I'll let you judge : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68550.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 July 2015, 07:23:08
    Quote from: dndliomx on Sun, 26 July 2015, 12:00:16
    Would a DCS spacebar on Cherry look weird?

    IIRC, it looks fine. But it definitely feels different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wobbs on Mon, 27 July 2015, 18:38:44
    I have a CM Quickfire Tk and some Gateron switches.  To swap the switches, would I just trim the pastic pins and solder the switches the same as i would with Cherry MX switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 27 July 2015, 18:40:48
    Quote from: wobbs on Mon, 27 July 2015, 18:38:44
    I have a CM Quickfire Tk and some Gateron switches.  To swap the switches, would I just trim the pastic pins and solder the switches the same as i would with Cherry MX switches?

    Yes, Gateron, like many MX-compatible switches, are designed to be electrically and physically compatible with Cherry MX switches. If you had PCB-mount MX switches, the process would be the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:06:58
    This isn't much of a "simple" question, but does any know what size the screws are used for KMAC blockers? I need new ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pesky brat on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:43:38
    Can cherry stabilizers be mounted onto a Filco PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:44:22
    Quote from: pesky brat on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:43:38
    Can cherry stabilizers be mounted onto a Filco PCB?

    If you've got a plate that supports plate mounted stabs, yes. PCB mounted stabs cannot be mounted onto a Filco PCB without heavy modification, and I don't know of anyone who has done it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pesky brat on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:50:36
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:44:22
    Quote from: pesky brat on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:43:38
    Can cherry stabilizers be mounted onto a Filco PCB?

    If you've got a plate that supports plate mounted stabs, yes. PCB mounted stabs cannot be mounted onto a Filco PCB without heavy modification, and I don't know of anyone who has done it.

    So, to clarify, if I had a uTKL plate on a Filco PCB, I could mount plate-mounted Cherry stabs on the plate, but not PCB-mount Cherry stabs?

    If yes, my next question is where can I buy plate-mount Cherry stabs? nvm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 23:19:23
    Quote from: pesky brat on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:50:36
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:44:22
    Quote from: pesky brat on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:43:38
    Can cherry stabilizers be mounted onto a Filco PCB?

    If you've got a plate that supports plate mounted stabs, yes. PCB mounted stabs cannot be mounted onto a Filco PCB without heavy modification, and I don't know of anyone who has done it.

    So, to clarify, if I had a uTKL plate on a Filco PCB, I could mount plate-mounted Cherry stabs on the plate, but not PCB-mount Cherry stabs?

    If yes, my next question is where can I buy plate-mount Cherry stabs? nvm

    This is indeed the case. http://i.imgur.com/0Grvzgj.jpg miss my old Filco
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pesky brat on Mon, 27 July 2015, 23:28:39
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 23:19:23
    Quote from: pesky brat on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:50:36
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:44:22
    Quote from: pesky brat on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:43:38
    Can cherry stabilizers be mounted onto a Filco PCB?

    If you've got a plate that supports plate mounted stabs, yes. PCB mounted stabs cannot be mounted onto a Filco PCB without heavy modification, and I don't know of anyone who has done it.

    So, to clarify, if I had a uTKL plate on a Filco PCB, I could mount plate-mounted Cherry stabs on the plate, but not PCB-mount Cherry stabs?

    If yes, my next question is where can I buy plate-mount Cherry stabs? nvm

    This is indeed the case. http://i.imgur.com/0Grvzgj.jpg miss my old Filco
    Thanks for the help. And nice Filco , sad to hear it's gone :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 28 July 2015, 01:33:42
    Quote from: davkol on Sun, 26 July 2015, 03:32:34
    Awesome. Now I'd have two cables instead of two cables. Except I wouldn't be able to recharge my phone or copy music to my DAP, while using the keyboard.

    I have one short microUSB cable that can charge virtually any modern phone, DAP and e-book reader. It can be used to connect these devices to desktops/laptops. I sometimes carry two around, just in case one fails, I want to charge/connect two devices at the same time or someone asks me to charge their phone. But I have carry around another cable! Because keyboard makers are stuck in 2008. And that cable recently failed on me, thus I couldn't type on my ErgoDox for a day or two. I guess I should had carried *four* cables around just for redundancy.

    LoL.  Well I don't know what else you can do other then buy a Novatouch, or QFR-i.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zustiur on Tue, 28 July 2015, 02:03:55
    I'm getting this error when I try to compile Hasu's tmk firmware:
    Quote
    D:\Programming\Shared Projects\tmk_keyboard\keyboard\ZusDox>make -f makefile
    The system cannot find the path specified.
    The system cannot find the path specified.
    ECHO is off.
    -------- begin --------
    avr-gcc (WinAVR 20100110) 4.3.3
    Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
    warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

    -f was unexpected at this time.
    make: *** [sizebefore] Error 255

    I know hasu didn't write 'make' so I figured I'd ask here first. Any clues as to what '-f was unexpected at this time' means?

    I get the feeling it has something to do with winavr or windows rather than my code...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 28 July 2015, 06:23:18
    Quote from: Zustiur on Tue, 28 July 2015, 02:03:55
    I'm getting this error when I try to compile Hasu's tmk firmware:
    Quote
    D:\Programming\Shared Projects\tmk_keyboard\keyboard\ZusDox>make -f makefile
    The system cannot find the path specified.
    The system cannot find the path specified.
    ECHO is off.
    -------- begin --------
    avr-gcc (WinAVR 20100110) 4.3.3
    Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
    warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

    -f was unexpected at this time.
    make: *** [sizebefore] Error 255

    I know hasu didn't write 'make' so I figured I'd ask here first. Any clues as to what '-f was unexpected at this time' means?

    I get the feeling it has something to do with winavr or windows rather than my code...
    Might have more luck posting a new thread or in the TMK thread. I think this is beyond the scope of this thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueNalgene on Tue, 28 July 2015, 18:27:53
    Does anyone have the stats on the Model M spring (rod size, height, width, load, rate) ? 

    Mine are rusty and not behaving.  I would like to replace them.  My calipers can't measure ID and I'm not sure if measuring the load would be simple for something which is meant to buckle.

    I realize that replacements are available from Unicomp (see here (http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/Misc/PVPLASM)), but I want to keep my options open.  Maybe there is something compatible from McMaster-Carr.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 28 July 2015, 19:25:37
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Tue, 28 July 2015, 18:27:53
    Does anyone have the stats on the Model M spring (rod size, height, width, load, rate) ? 

    Mine are rusty and not behaving.  I would like to replace them. 

    Many people have looked at the Model M/F spring question with the idea of getting lighter (or possibly heavier!) action, but I have never seen anybody post positive results.

    For 20 cents each, Unicomp is a reasonable source, or buy a slightly-used M (there are lots of terminals that sell cheap and have probably seen little use). And, if you buy the assembly, you don't have to monkey with it. Or PM me, I have some.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Wed, 29 July 2015, 05:41:49
    Is a keyboard which is converted from ps2(6pin din) to usb by an adapter hot-swappable?
    I've connected my ps2 boards to my m/b's ps2 port directly until today, so I don't well know how ps2-to-usb adapter work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 July 2015, 06:35:57
    Quote from: darkspider on Wed, 29 July 2015, 05:41:49
    Is a keyboard which is converted from ps2(6pin din) to usb by an adapter hot-swappable?
    I've connected my ps2 boards to my m/b's ps2 port directly until today, so I don't well know how ps2-to-usb adapter work.
    Yes



    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 28 July 2015, 19:25:37
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Tue, 28 July 2015, 18:27:53
    Does anyone have the stats on the Model M spring (rod size, height, width, load, rate) ? 

    Mine are rusty and not behaving.  I would like to replace them. 

    Many people have looked at the Model M/F spring question with the idea of getting lighter (or possibly heavier!) action, but I have never seen anybody post positive results.

    For 20 cents each, Unicomp is a reasonable source, or buy a slightly-used M (there are lots of terminals that sell cheap and have probably seen little use). And, if you buy the assembly, you don't have to monkey with it. Or PM me, I have some.

    I agree with Fohat.digs. No reason to source it elsewhere when Unicomp has it for so cheap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Wed, 29 July 2015, 06:58:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 July 2015, 06:35:57
    Quote from: darkspider on Wed, 29 July 2015, 05:41:49
    Is a keyboard which is converted from ps2(6pin din) to usb by an adapter hot-swappable?
    I've connected my ps2 boards to my m/b's ps2 port directly until today, so I don't well know how ps2-to-usb adapter work.
    Yes

    Thank you for immediate reply!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PaulMP on Wed, 29 July 2015, 10:54:28
    Hello guys!

    Which keyboard is on this picture?
    (https://massdrop.imgix.net/resizer/product-images/MD-6857_20150417154748_26ba1bfd96e1caef.jpg?fm=jpg&q=70)
    (source: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dsa-dolch-key-set)

    I guess it's a Varmilo VA87M, but im not sure.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BrewCaps on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:01:14
    Yes.  Same spacebar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:10:09
    Quote from: PaulMP on Wed, 29 July 2015, 10:54:28
    Hello guys!

    Which keyboard is on this picture?
    Show Image
    (https://massdrop.imgix.net/resizer/product-images/MD-6857_20150417154748_26ba1bfd96e1caef.jpg?fm=jpg&q=70)

    (source: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dsa-dolch-key-set)

    I guess it's a Varmilo VA87M, but im not sure.

    Thanks!

    I think your guess is right. I'd ask in the massdrop discussion just in case though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:32:58
    I'd be pretty confident in saying it's Varmilo because it has raised keys. Few keyboards have that feature.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PaulMP on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:41:55
    Thank you!

    I really like the look of this keyboard, especially the rised keys.
    Sadly it's quite rare, and aliexpress, where i could find it, is a bad place to buy keyboards imo.

    Do you guys know similar, simple looking keyboards like this, with no led background?
    Pok3r looks perfect, but I prefer TKL with arrow keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:48:07
    Quote from: PaulMP on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:41:55
    Thank you!

    I really like the look of this keyboard, especially the rised keys.
    Sadly it's quite rare, and aliexpress, where i could find it, is a bad place to buy keyboards imo.

    Do you guys know similar, simple looking keyboards like this, with no led background?
    Pok3r looks perfect, but I prefer TKL with arrow keys.

    There's various Ducky boards (not 100% on the model names) and Filco Majestouches which I really like.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 29 July 2015, 13:24:46
    Quote from: Zustiur on Tue, 28 July 2015, 02:03:55
    I'm getting this error when I try to compile Hasu's tmk firmware:
    Quote
    D:\Programming\Shared Projects\tmk_keyboard\keyboard\ZusDox>make -f makefile
    The system cannot find the path specified.
    The system cannot find the path specified.
    ECHO is off.
    -------- begin --------
    avr-gcc (WinAVR 20100110) 4.3.3
    Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
    warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

    -f was unexpected at this time.
    make: *** [sizebefore] Error 255

    I know hasu didn't write 'make' so I figured I'd ask here first. Any clues as to what '-f was unexpected at this time' means?

    I get the feeling it has something to do with winavr or windows rather than my code...

    Have you tried reinstalling winavr?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:55:57
    I for the life of me can not remember the name of the colored covers you can put over LEDs on your board to change the colors. I cant remember where you can buy them either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:57:59
    Quote from: trees on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:55:57
    I for the life of me can not remember the name of the colored covers you can put over LEDs on your board to change the colors. I cant remember where you can buy them either.
    daydream or something like that. If you scroll through the MD drops for mechanical keyboards you can find it

    Edit: here http://www.banggood.com/DayDream-LED-Cover-for-108-Mechanical-Keyboard-White-Backlit-p-925837.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:58:43
    Quote from: trees on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:55:57
    I for the life of me can not remember the name of the colored covers you can put over LEDs on your board to change the colors. I cant remember where you can buy them either.

    They had a name? I thought they were just referred to as "LED covers". And I've only ever seen them on Massdrop. I also haven't kept up with that at all.

    Maybe these? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52075.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:59:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:58:43
    Quote from: trees on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:55:57
    I for the life of me can not remember the name of the colored covers you can put over LEDs on your board to change the colors. I cant remember where you can buy them either.

    They had a name? I thought they were just referred to as "LED covers". And I've only ever seen them on Massdrop. I also haven't kept up with that at all.

    Maybe these? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52075.0
    yeah, banggood link here http://www.banggood.com/DayDream-LED-Cover-for-108-Mechanical-Keyboard-White-Backlit-p-925837.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Thu, 30 July 2015, 10:05:53
    Those are them, thanks CPT and seth. I was totally blanking out on them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:49:23
    Anyone ever had trouble with costar stabs rubbing/sticking, like the alignment's just not quite right? Looking for a fix for my spacebar and enter key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:50:36
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:49:23
    Anyone ever had trouble with costar stabs rubbing/sticking, like the alignment's just not quite right? Looking for a fix for my spacebar and enter key.
    Do you have the inserts facing the right direction?

    Might try some square baggy pieces.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:50:41
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:49:23
    Anyone ever had trouble with costar stabs rubbing/sticking, like the alignment's just not quite right? Looking for a fix for my spacebar and enter key.

    Did you put the inserts in the correct way? The longer leg should face your function row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:52:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:50:41
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:49:23
    Anyone ever had trouble with costar stabs rubbing/sticking, like the alignment's just not quite right? Looking for a fix for my spacebar and enter key.

    Did you put the inserts in the correct way? The longer leg should face your function row.

    Yeah, they're in right. I mean it's just barely rubbing. I don't think they'd even come close to fitting if backwards.

    BTW this is on an Infinity plate, not an off-the-shelf board, so maybe it's just an alignment/tolerance issue with that....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:54:43
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:52:32
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:50:41
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:49:23
    Anyone ever had trouble with costar stabs rubbing/sticking, like the alignment's just not quite right? Looking for a fix for my spacebar and enter key.

    Did you put the inserts in the correct way? The longer leg should face your function row.


    Yeah, they're in right. I mean it's just barely rubbing. I don't think they'd even come close to fitting if backwards.

    BTW this is on an Infinity plate, not an off-the-shelf board, so maybe it's just an alignment/tolerance issue with that....

    Hm, could try filing down the stabs a touch so it fits ok? Then try filing the plate's stab holes a bit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:10:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:54:43
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:52:32
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:50:41
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:49:23
    Anyone ever had trouble with costar stabs rubbing/sticking, like the alignment's just not quite right? Looking for a fix for my spacebar and enter key.

    Did you put the inserts in the correct way? The longer leg should face your function row.


    Yeah, they're in right. I mean it's just barely rubbing. I don't think they'd even come close to fitting if backwards.

    BTW this is on an Infinity plate, not an off-the-shelf board, so maybe it's just an alignment/tolerance issue with that....

    Hm, could try filing down the stabs a touch so it fits ok? Then try filing the plate's stab holes a bit?

    That did it! No more rubbing, binding or squeaking. Just a few times back and forth on each insert with a sapphire nail file (which may or may not be mine).

    I don't know why I didn't think of that. I was kind of leaning towards something like that, but I always like to check first to see if my problem is common before resorting to surgery.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:23:24
    Are there one who knows whether I can use my IBM Model F with windows10 or not?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:25:06
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:23:24
    Are there one who knows whether I can use my IBM Model F with windows10 or not?

    Assuming you've done what needs to be done to use it on any PC (new controller or adapter cable), there's no reason it shouldn't work in Windows 10 if it works in earlier versions.

    Is there a specific reason you have to think otherwise?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:31:37
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:25:06
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:23:24
    Are there one who knows whether I can use my IBM Model F with windows10 or not?

    Assuming you've done what needs to be done to use it on any PC (new controller or adapter cable), there's no reason it shouldn't work in Windows 10 if it works in earlier versions.

    Is there a specific reason you have to think otherwise?

    I wonder whether its driver is included in Windows10's driver pack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 23:23:56
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:31:37
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:25:06
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:23:24
    Are there one who knows whether I can use my IBM Model F with windows10 or not?

    Assuming you've done what needs to be done to use it on any PC (new controller or adapter cable), there's no reason it shouldn't work in Windows 10 if it works in earlier versions.

    Is there a specific reason you have to think otherwise?

    I wonder whether its driver is included in Windows10's driver pack.

    AFAIK all of the well-known converters appear as a generic keyboard. So it will work in Windows 10.

    How are you currently using it? As in, are you using a converter cable, alternate controller, or what?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cicada88 on Thu, 30 July 2015, 23:48:59
    Are HHKB Escape keys the exact same profile as RealForce escape keys?

    What about HHKB Function keys--are they the exact same shape as the Windows key on Real Force (minus the windows key "bubble")?


    I've heard most of the keys are interchangeable but I wasn't sure if the profile is exactly the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:07:12
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 23:23:56
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:31:37
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:25:06
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:23:24
    Are there one who knows whether I can use my IBM Model F with windows10 or not?

    Assuming you've done what needs to be done to use it on any PC (new controller or adapter cable), there's no reason it shouldn't work in Windows 10 if it works in earlier versions.

    Is there a specific reason you have to think otherwise?

    I wonder whether its driver is included in Windows10's driver pack.

    AFAIK all of the well-known converters appear as a generic keyboard. So it will work in Windows 10.

    How are you currently using it? As in, are you using a converter cable, alternate controller, or what?

    I converted F's AT plug to ps2, then ps2 to USB by well-known "ps/2 to USB adapter converter" whose picture is the following.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:12:09
    Quote from: darkspider on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:07:12
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 23:23:56
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:31:37
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:25:06
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:23:24
    Are there one who knows whether I can use my IBM Model F with windows10 or not?

    Assuming you've done what needs to be done to use it on any PC (new controller or adapter cable), there's no reason it shouldn't work in Windows 10 if it works in earlier versions.

    Is there a specific reason you have to think otherwise?

    I wonder whether its driver is included in Windows10's driver pack.

    AFAIK all of the well-known converters appear as a generic keyboard. So it will work in Windows 10.

    How are you currently using it? As in, are you using a converter cable, alternate controller, or what?

    I converted F's AT plug to ps2, then ps2 to USB by well-known "ps/2 to USB adapter converter" whose picture is the following.

    Okay, perfect. So like I said, Windows will see the USB device as a generic keyboard, no different than any $10 USB keyboard off the shelf. They couldn't even single out Model F users if they wanted to.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:24:03
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:12:09
    Quote from: darkspider on Fri, 31 July 2015, 00:07:12
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 23:23:56
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:31:37
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:25:06
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 30 July 2015, 22:23:24
    Are there one who knows whether I can use my IBM Model F with windows10 or not?

    Assuming you've done what needs to be done to use it on any PC (new controller or adapter cable), there's no reason it shouldn't work in Windows 10 if it works in earlier versions.

    Is there a specific reason you have to think otherwise?

    I wonder whether its driver is included in Windows10's driver pack.

    AFAIK all of the well-known converters appear as a generic keyboard. So it will work in Windows 10.

    How are you currently using it? As in, are you using a converter cable, alternate controller, or what?

    I converted F's AT plug to ps2, then ps2 to USB by well-known "ps/2 to USB adapter converter" whose picture is the following.

    Okay, perfect. So like I said, Windows will see the USB device as a generic keyboard, no different than any $10 USB keyboard off the shelf. They couldn't even single out Model F users if they wanted to.

    I got understood, thank you for good information:-)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 31 July 2015, 19:55:01
    I i got for a B.mini vs a b.87 how screwed am i on the short right shift when it comes to cap sets?

    I prefer the layout and size of the B.mini, but dont want to screw myself on being able to buy cap sets later on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 31 July 2015, 19:57:00
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 31 July 2015, 19:55:01
    I i got for a B.mini vs a b.87 how screwed am i on the short right shift when it comes to cap sets?

    I prefer the layout and size of the B.mini, but dont want to screw myself on being able to buy cap sets later on.

    I mean, you could just buy ISO sets. If ISO sets aren't available then suffer with the rest of the euros :D

    EDIT: oh **** short RIGHT shift, disregard my bad. Nah you're pretty screwed unless you really like Signature Plastics.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 31 July 2015, 20:00:32
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 31 July 2015, 19:57:00
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 31 July 2015, 19:55:01
    I i got for a B.mini vs a b.87 how screwed am i on the short right shift when it comes to cap sets?

    I prefer the layout and size of the B.mini, but dont want to screw myself on being able to buy cap sets later on.

    I mean, you could just buy ISO sets. If ISO sets aren't available then suffer with the rest of the euros :D

    EDIT: oh **** short RIGHT shift, disregard my bad. Nah you're pretty screwed unless you really like Signature Plastics.

    Dammit, lol. I have a OG cherry set right now with a short right shift, but i like caps so im sure to want to buy sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 31 July 2015, 20:02:24
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 31 July 2015, 20:00:32
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 31 July 2015, 19:57:00
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 31 July 2015, 19:55:01
    I i got for a B.mini vs a b.87 how screwed am i on the short right shift when it comes to cap sets?

    I prefer the layout and size of the B.mini, but dont want to screw myself on being able to buy cap sets later on.

    I mean, you could just buy ISO sets. If ISO sets aren't available then suffer with the rest of the euros :D

    EDIT: oh **** short RIGHT shift, disregard my bad. Nah you're pretty screwed unless you really like Signature Plastics.

    Dammit, lol. I have a OG cherry set right now with a short right shift, but i like caps so im sure to want to buy sets.

    Yeah OG cherry is the only sets ur gonna find the short right shift. That's probably the reason why certain PCBs even use it is because it supports older cherry sets, cuz that's what the Koreans like to do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 31 July 2015, 20:08:23
    If i stick with Cherry profile keys, i can just use CMYK modifiers or some such thing. Or perhaps Shodovved's blanks, as they seem to have a R4 1.75 key as well.

    Thanks Sifo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:22:27
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 31 July 2015, 20:08:23
    If i stick with Cherry profile keys, i can just use CMYK modifiers or some such thing. Or perhaps Shodovved's blanks, as they seem to have a R4 1.75 key as well.

    Thanks Sifo.
    Yeah, although Dolch has short right shifts, Skidata does, and it seems like more sets are compensating for it now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rpeterclark on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:01:41
    Does anyone remember where this case was offered (other than through the MD Infinity GB)?

    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-7993_20150515115940_39307ce719bfcb1a.jpg)

    I know that I saw a link for it somewhere, TaoBao, Aliexpress, eBay, something, but I can't find it and my google-fu is not helping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 15:58:32
    Quote from: rpeterclark on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:01:41
    Does anyone remember where this case was offered (other than through the MD Infinity GB)?

    Show Image
    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-7993_20150515115940_39307ce719bfcb1a.jpg)


    I know that I saw a link for it somewhere, TaoBao, Aliexpress, eBay, something, but I can't find it and my google-fu is not helping.

    I've not seen this exact one anywhere else, but there is the TEX acrylic case which was also available through the MD Infinity buy, and that one may be easier to find elsewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 01 August 2015, 16:02:22
    Quote from: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 15:58:32
    Quote from: rpeterclark on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:01:41
    Does anyone remember where this case was offered (other than through the MD Infinity GB)?

    Show Image
    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-7993_20150515115940_39307ce719bfcb1a.jpg)


    I know that I saw a link for it somewhere, TaoBao, Aliexpress, eBay, something, but I can't find it and my google-fu is not helping.

    I've not seen this exact one anywhere else, but there is the TEX acrylic case which was also available through the MD Infinity buy, and that one may be easier to find elsewhere.
    Agreed. Think the TEX acrylic case is similar or the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 01 August 2015, 16:13:21
    Quote from: rpeterclark on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:01:41
    Does anyone remember where this case was offered (other than through the MD Infinity GB)?

    Show Image
    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-7993_20150515115940_39307ce719bfcb1a.jpg)


    I know that I saw a link for it somewhere, TaoBao, Aliexpress, eBay, something, but I can't find it and my google-fu is not helping.
    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.4.Di7lGr&amp;id=44521181795&amp;ns=1&amp;abbucket=3#detail
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rpeterclark on Sat, 01 August 2015, 16:21:56
    Quote from: wlhlm on Sat, 01 August 2015, 16:13:21
    Quote from: rpeterclark on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:01:41
    Does anyone remember where this case was offered (other than through the MD Infinity GB)?

    Show Image
    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-7993_20150515115940_39307ce719bfcb1a.jpg)


    I know that I saw a link for it somewhere, TaoBao, Aliexpress, eBay, something, but I can't find it and my google-fu is not helping.
    http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.4.Di7lGr&amp;id=44521181795&amp;ns=1&amp;abbucket=3#detail

    Perfect! The link actually doesn't work for me for so ereason, but the part number in it was enough to lead me to one that did: http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?spm=686.1000925.0.0.RsIv9W&id=44521181795

    I do already have the TEX acrylic case, which is undoubtedly nicer, but was looking for a lower cost alternative for a possible project. Thanks everyone!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kennardsmith on Sat, 01 August 2015, 18:57:00
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Fri, 10 April 2015, 22:05:17
    Not sure if its a simple question but,
    I've just given the V60 a closer look again since its currently on MD and was looking at some pictures of the PCB (http://www.hardcoreware.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kbp-v60-mini-review-pcb.jpg).

    The PCB is US/ISO/JP so it support things like split left shift for iso (and split backspace for jp?).
    However it also support a split right shift, with the add-on key labeled as esc?

    I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried to mod or short wire to see what happens when you trigger the add-on keys of split right shift (labeled esc) or split backspace (labeled J14) on an us version.

    I guess due to firmware they might not do anything on the us, and its most likely not practical anyway since the v60 isn't programmable but I'm really curious and maybe someone has more knowledge about JP vs US layout...


    When I tested this, it sent an ESC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ceflame on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:30:15
    Does anybody know if Gateron 6.25 PBT spacebars fit on Leopold spacing? (FC750R if there's any difference)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:39:22
    Quote from: ceflame on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:30:15
    Does anybody know if Gateron 6.25 PBT spacebars fit on Leopold spacing? (FC750R if there's any difference)

    I'll let you judge:

    (http://i.imgur.com/0FVtbEd.jpg)

    source (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ceflame on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:47:14
    Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:39:22
    Show Image
    Quote from: ceflame on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:30:15
    Does anybody know if Gateron 6.25 PBT spacebars fit on Leopold spacing? (FC750R if there's any difference)

    I'll let you judge:

    (http://i.imgur.com/0FVtbEd.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/0FVtbEd.jpg)

    source (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.0)

    edit: this review says the fc750r has standard spacing (http://deskthority.net/review-f45/kul-es-87-vs-leopold-fc750r-the-best-of-2014-in-2015-t10179.html)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:25:30
    What does "CCnG" mean?

    From the group buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40610.0):
    Quote from: Gupgup on Sat, 23 February 2013, 23:40:24
    Here we go, ladies and gentleman! CCnG round 2, also available will be the reverse colors, i.e. CCoG for base and GoCC for mods, anything your heart desires!

    I suspect "CC" is cream cheese and "G" is green...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:25:55
    Quote from: wlhlm on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:25:30
    What does "CCnG" mean?

    From the group buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40610.0):
    Quote from: Gupgup on Sat, 23 February 2013, 23:40:24
    Here we go, ladies and gentleman! CCnG round 2, also available will be the reverse colors, i.e. CCoG for base and GoCC for mods, anything your heart desires!

    I suspect "CC" is cream cheese and "G" is green...

    You got it. Cream Cheese and Green. It's the name of a colorway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:27:02
    Thanks for speedy reply CPT! :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: What on Thu, 06 August 2015, 06:34:33
    Hello,
    Can I take regular membrane keyboard and hook it up to micro controller so I can get all the benefits like multiple layers and reprogrammable keys ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 August 2015, 06:55:01
    Quote from: What on Thu, 06 August 2015, 06:34:33
    Hello,
    Can I take regular membrane keyboard and hook it up to micro controller so I can get all the benefits like multiple layers and reprogrammable keys ?

    Honestly not sure but I would guess that you could.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 06 August 2015, 06:59:15
    Quote from: What on Thu, 06 August 2015, 06:34:33
    Hello,
    Can I take regular membrane keyboard and hook it up to micro controller so I can get all the benefits like multiple layers and reprogrammable keys ?
    Have a look here

     https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72052.0

    The USB to USB might help you do some of the the things you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:59:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 06 August 2015, 06:59:15
    Quote from: What on Thu, 06 August 2015, 06:34:33
    Hello,
    Can I take regular membrane keyboard and hook it up to micro controller so I can get all the benefits like multiple layers and reprogrammable keys ?
    Have a look here

     https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72052.0

    The USB to USB might help you do some of the the things you want.

    This discussion has been split and moved to Making Stuff Together, thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74241.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 3K on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:27:14
    Hello wise people of geekhack, can you tell me what kind of switches these are?

    Quote from: 3K on Thu, 06 August 2015, 05:47:36
    Seller stated he took it from a russian ISKRA 111.[...]

    More
    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/1l9p8k.jpg)

    More
    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/2vop6z.jpg)

    More
    Show Image
    (http://abload.de/img/3smqvx.jpg)

    The keycaps are slightly too large to be MX compatible, the switches seem to work with magnetism - couldn't find information about them though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:27:40
    Does anyone anyone know of any 60% aluminium cases that have sharp corners? eg the Duck Eagle case:

    (http://i.imgur.com/kiQzkKg.png)

    I don't think I'll be getting an Eagle due to availability, so I'm looking for alternatives.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:31:19
    Quote from: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:27:40
    Does anyone anyone know of any 60% aluminium cases that have sharp corners? eg the Duck Eagle case:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kiQzkKg.png)


    I don't think I'll be getting an Eagle due to availability, so I'm looking for alternatives.

    KMAC Happy? Or maybe another of these Duck boards (http://duck0113.tistory.com/) fit your tastes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:51:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:31:19
    Quote from: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:27:40
    Does anyone anyone know of any 60% aluminium cases that have sharp corners? eg the Duck Eagle case:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kiQzkKg.png)


    I don't think I'll be getting an Eagle due to availability, so I'm looking for alternatives.

    KMAC Happy? Or maybe another of these Duck boards (http://duck0113.tistory.com/) fit your tastes.

    KMAC Happy looks great, haven't seen that one before. That would also be fairly hard to get as well, right?

    Yeah I've seen Duck's other boards, and I probably want to get an octagon but I've heard that he'll be running another Eagle/Viper buy before doing the octagon again I think.

    I just remembered that there's a few on taobao, eg this one (https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/134583372/TB2JmGWcFXXXXc9XXXXXXXXXXXX-134583372.jpg) which would probably make it cheaper for me in the end too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:55:17
    Quote from: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:51:14
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:31:19
    Quote from: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:27:40
    Does anyone anyone know of any 60% aluminium cases that have sharp corners? eg the Duck Eagle case:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kiQzkKg.png)


    I don't think I'll be getting an Eagle due to availability, so I'm looking for alternatives.

    KMAC Happy? Or maybe another of these Duck boards (http://duck0113.tistory.com/) fit your tastes.


    KMAC Happy looks great, haven't seen that one before. That would also be fairly hard to get as well, right?

    Yeah I've seen Duck's other boards, and I probably want to get an octagon but I've heard that he'll be running another Eagle/Viper buy before doing the octagon again I think.

    I just remembered that there's a few on taobao, eg this one (https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/134583372/TB2JmGWcFXXXXc9XXXXXXXXXXXX-134583372.jpg) which would probably make it cheaper for me in the end too.

    I mean for what you're looking at, besides what's on TaoBao and what Massdrop/MK.com offers, it's all hard to get. That TaoBao case is a knockoff of the Hammer case or more Hammer cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:56:26
    Quote from: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:51:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:31:19
    Quote from: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:27:40
    Does anyone anyone know of any 60% aluminium cases that have sharp corners? eg the Duck Eagle case:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kiQzkKg.png)


    I don't think I'll be getting an Eagle due to availability, so I'm looking for alternatives.

    KMAC Happy? Or maybe another of these Duck boards (http://duck0113.tistory.com/) fit your tastes.

    KMAC Happy looks great, haven't seen that one before. That would also be fairly hard to get as well, right?

    Yeah I've seen Duck's other boards, and I probably want to get an octagon but I've heard that he'll be running another Eagle/Viper buy before doing the octagon again I think.

    I just remembered that there's a few on taobao, eg this one (https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/134583372/TB2JmGWcFXXXXc9XXXXXXXXXXXX-134583372.jpg) which would probably make it cheaper for me in the end too.
    qtan has them: http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/item/keyboard-accessory/poker-2-metal-keyboard-case/lid=38489633
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 10:05:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:55:17
    Quote from: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:51:14
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:31:19
    Quote from: nmur on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:27:40
    Does anyone anyone know of any 60% aluminium cases that have sharp corners? eg the Duck Eagle case:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kiQzkKg.png)


    I don't think I'll be getting an Eagle due to availability, so I'm looking for alternatives.

    KMAC Happy? Or maybe another of these Duck boards (http://duck0113.tistory.com/) fit your tastes.


    KMAC Happy looks great, haven't seen that one before. That would also be fairly hard to get as well, right?

    Yeah I've seen Duck's other boards, and I probably want to get an octagon but I've heard that he'll be running another Eagle/Viper buy before doing the octagon again I think.

    I just remembered that there's a few on taobao, eg this one (https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/134583372/TB2JmGWcFXXXXc9XXXXXXXXXXXX-134583372.jpg) which would probably make it cheaper for me in the end too.

    I mean for what you're looking at, besides what's on TaoBao and what Massdrop/MK.com offers, it's all hard to get. That TaoBao case is a knockoff of the Hammer case or more Hammer cases.

    Oh I've heard of Hammer cases but didn't realise that that was a copy of one. I just looked up an older group buy from Feng and the real deal looks crisp as hell, damn.

    Thanks for the help and thanks for that link wlhlm. I am in no hurry so I'll be watching the classifieds to see if anything interesting pops up.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 07 August 2015, 21:48:46
    i always ask the stupidest questions here, sorry guys.  is there a trick to disconnecting the USB cable from a filco?  i don't wanna break anything and nothing i'm trying seems to be doing much.  is there a particular part of the connector i should be putting pressure on?  are there any kind of clips holding things in place?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 07 August 2015, 22:33:03
    Quote from: nightdriver on Fri, 07 August 2015, 21:48:46
    i always ask the stupidest questions here, sorry guys.  is there a trick to disconnecting the USB cable from a filco?  i don't wanna break anything and nothing i'm trying seems to be doing much.  is there a particular part of the connector i should be putting pressure on?  are there any kind of clips holding things in place?

    I watched one of WFD's videos the first time I disconnected one, and it helped.

    If it doesn't start at the correct time, it happens at 7:23

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 07 August 2015, 22:44:11
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 07 August 2015, 22:33:03
    Quote from: nightdriver on Fri, 07 August 2015, 21:48:46
    i always ask the stupidest questions here, sorry guys.  is there a trick to disconnecting the USB cable from a filco?  i don't wanna break anything and nothing i'm trying seems to be doing much.  is there a particular part of the connector i should be putting pressure on?  are there any kind of clips holding things in place?

    I watched one of WFD's videos the first time I disconnected one, and it helped.

    If it doesn't start at the correct time, it happens at 7:23


    WTF happened to WFD man?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:05:13
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 07 August 2015, 22:33:03
    Quote from: nightdriver on Fri, 07 August 2015, 21:48:46
    i always ask the stupidest questions here, sorry guys.  is there a trick to disconnecting the USB cable from a filco?  i don't wanna break anything and nothing i'm trying seems to be doing much.  is there a particular part of the connector i should be putting pressure on?  are there any kind of clips holding things in place?

    I watched one of WFD's videos the first time I disconnected one, and it helped.

    If it doesn't start at the correct time, it happens at 7:23

    oww geez.  thanks for the help that's what i needed to know, but it's not helping much and i just cut my finger attempting it.  man at this point i'd love to pay somebody to do it for me.  haha.  do you use a pushpin like WFD or do you have any other ideas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:07:45
    Quote from: nightdriver on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:05:13
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 07 August 2015, 22:33:03
    Quote from: nightdriver on Fri, 07 August 2015, 21:48:46
    i always ask the stupidest questions here, sorry guys.  is there a trick to disconnecting the USB cable from a filco?  i don't wanna break anything and nothing i'm trying seems to be doing much.  is there a particular part of the connector i should be putting pressure on?  are there any kind of clips holding things in place?

    I watched one of WFD's videos the first time I disconnected one, and it helped.

    If it doesn't start at the correct time, it happens at 7:23

    oww geez.  thanks for the help that's what i needed to know, but it's not helping much and i just cut my finger attempting it.  man at this point i'd love to pay somebody to do it for me.  haha.  do you use a pushpin like WFD or do you have any other ideas?

    Yeah I used a push pin from my cork board.  I was nervous about breaking something the first time I did it.  Just take your time and you should be able to get it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nightdriver on Sat, 08 August 2015, 00:56:19
    took forever but finally got it.  thanks man!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:51:47
    Has anyone had experience with soldering SMD LEDs on the bottom of the switch LED pads of a pcb? eg what's done here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53618.msg1771544#msg1771544)

    A close up of what the joint looks like with both LEDs soldered on would be great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Evo_Spec on Sun, 09 August 2015, 07:34:01
    Quote from: nmur on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:51:47
    Has anyone had experience with soldering SMD LEDs on the bottom of the switch LED pads of a pcb? eg what's done here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53618.msg1771544#msg1771544)

    A close up of what the joint looks like with both LEDs soldered on would be great.

    I used this method with success. (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/129-nerd-side-ledsmd-led-soldering.html)

    Just instead of the LED standing on it's side, solder it flat down.

    Another option is this. (https://youtu.be/-z7t9p9QbYc?t=1m12s)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rpeterclark on Sun, 09 August 2015, 07:35:34
    Quote from: nmur on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:51:47
    Has anyone had experience with soldering SMD LEDs on the bottom of the switch LED pads of a pcb? eg what's done here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53618.msg1771544#msg1771544)

    A close up of what the joint looks like with both LEDs soldered on would be great.

    Hi! Owner of that board here.  :D  I'm hesitant to take that board back out of its case for photos, the threads are feeling loose and I fear it wouldn't go back together well.

    However, it's pretty much what you would expect it to look like! The in switch SIP sockets are the short variety that basically sit flush with the bottom of the PCB. Those get soldered in first and let it have a slightly rounded top. On one pad I would then give it a quick touch with solder wick to make it flat. I then reflowed a lead of the SMD LED to the pad with the rounded top. I then soldered the the other SMD lead to the flat side.

    Only other advise is to test the LEDs you want use before soldering. Different color LEDs require different currents and some don't run in parallel well, unless you want to start messing with the resistors...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Sun, 09 August 2015, 09:04:55
    Quote from: Evo_Spec on Sun, 09 August 2015, 07:34:01
    Quote from: nmur on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:51:47
    Has anyone had experience with soldering SMD LEDs on the bottom of the switch LED pads of a pcb? eg what's done here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53618.msg1771544#msg1771544)

    A close up of what the joint looks like with both LEDs soldered on would be great.

    I used this method with success. (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/129-nerd-side-ledsmd-led-soldering.html)

    Just instead of the LED standing on it's side, solder it flat down.

    Another option is this. (https://youtu.be/-z7t9p9QbYc?t=1m12s)

    Awesome pictures, thank you for those links. I think I'll be doing the first technique there.

    Quote from: rpeterclark on Sun, 09 August 2015, 07:35:34
    Quote from: nmur on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:51:47
    Has anyone had experience with soldering SMD LEDs on the bottom of the switch LED pads of a pcb? eg what's done here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53618.msg1771544#msg1771544)

    A close up of what the joint looks like with both LEDs soldered on would be great.

    Hi! Owner of that board here.  :D  I'm hesitant to take that board back out of its case for photos, the threads are feeling loose and I fear it wouldn't go back together well.

    However, it's pretty much what you would expect it to look like! The in switch SIP sockets are the short variety that basically sit flush with the bottom of the PCB. Those get soldered in first and let it have a slightly rounded top. On one pad I would then give it a quick touch with solder wick to make it flat. I then reflowed a lead of the SMD LED to the pad with the rounded top. I then soldered the the other SMD lead to the flat side.

    Only other advise is to test the LEDs you want use before soldering. Different color LEDs require different currents and some don't run in parallel well, unless you want to start messing with the resistors...

    Hey man! Nice boards ;)

    Thanks for the tips. I've ordered SIP sockets with longer tails than that (Zeal's, I think) so it will be interesting to see how it all fits together, if at all. I'm assuming that I'll probably want to put LEDs on the bottom of each switch, or else I'm going to get some unevenness on the top LED strengths.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sun, 09 August 2015, 11:11:24
    Can someone identify this ?

    (http://puu.sh/jvass/90f810962a.jpg)

    DT wiki isn't helping, and the cable let me believe it's interesting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 09 August 2015, 12:32:53
    Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 09 August 2015, 11:11:24
    Can someone identify this ?

    Show Image
    (http://puu.sh/jvass/90f810962a.jpg)


    DT wiki isn't helping, and the cable let me believe it's interesting.

    Based on the centered circular LED cutout on the Caps, odds are it's rubber dome.  The caps almost look NMB Hi-Tek, but I don't know of any NMB LED switches.  There's always the changes it's MX or Alps, but I'd lean toward RD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Sun, 09 August 2015, 16:08:50
    Saw this switch on a site and was wondering what type it was:

    (http://i.imgur.com/VZggNKR.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/uNiD8u9.jpg)

    From this board (NEC PTOS):

    (http://i.imgur.com/UjbxfGR.jpg)

    Sadly no higher res photos available. Wish Deskthority's wiki switch list page had thumbnails to browse through.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sun, 09 August 2015, 16:52:19
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Recognition_guides (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Recognition_guides)

    …but that switch isn't there.

    The keyboard looks like NEC A-VX N8606 (classified as Topre in DT wiki) and a bunch of other PTOS keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Sun, 09 August 2015, 17:58:24
    Quote from: davkol on Sun, 09 August 2015, 16:52:19
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Recognition_guides (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Recognition_guides)

    …but that switch isn't there.

    The keyboard looks like NEC A-VX N8606 (classified as Topre in DT wiki) and a bunch of other PTOS keyboards.

    So I did some more looking around it looks like the model is 'NEC CMQ-6D1L' and the switch is a rare NEC branded switch (wiki entry (http://deskthority.net/wiki/NEC_metal_top)). They apparently came in a couple versions.

    From translating some of the original Japanese it said that the early to mid versions of the NEC PTOS used the NEC switches while the latter model they owned (PC-9801-114) featured yellow ALPs switches:

    (http://i.imgur.com/i0AW4Be.jpg)

    Clearly these boards came with different switches over the years as Topre was also used for some models.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sun, 09 August 2015, 22:46:22
    NVM :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 10 August 2015, 06:05:41
    Quote from: Coreda on Sun, 09 August 2015, 16:08:50
    Saw this switch on a site and was wondering what type it was:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/VZggNKR.jpg)
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/uNiD8u9.jpg)


    From this board (NEC PTOS):

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/UjbxfGR.jpg)


    Sadly no higher res photos available. Wish Deskthority's wiki switch list page had thumbnails to browse through.

    Those look very much like a variant on the NEC blue oval switches.

    The blue ones popup from time to time in H4100E and similar keyboards.  They are clicky, although curiously the click happens after actuation, so with a little care it is possible to type silently on the blue switches.

    I wonder if the white ones are, perhaps, silent versions of the blue ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 10 August 2015, 09:35:02
    Where the heck do I get space bars, besides signature plastics?  I'm mostay looking for 6.25 pbt, and nothing too fancy or expensive. But thick would be nice.

    NEVERMIND, I'll just get them from SP, they have lots of options for a good price.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Mon, 10 August 2015, 22:28:23
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 10 August 2015, 06:05:41
    Those look very much like a variant on the NEC blue oval switches.

    The blue ones popup from time to time in H4100E and similar keyboards.  They are clicky, although curiously the click happens after actuation, so with a little care it is possible to type silently on the blue switches.

    I wonder if the white ones are, perhaps, silent versions of the blue ones.

    Interesting, so there are blue versions of the switches as well. Curious!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:03:36
    What are the differences between AEKi and AEKii?

    Are the keycaps completely interchangeable between the two? I'm looking to get some orange ALPS and solder them into an AEKii, and use the AEKi caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:17:01
    Quote from: Karura on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:03:36
    Are the keycaps completely interchangeable between the two? I'm looking to get some orange ALPS and solder them into an AEKii, and use the AEKi caps.

    Huh?

    The AEK2 caps are considered by some people to be marginally better, but there is very little difference.

    The orange Alps are the best, but there is so little difference in the cases that it does not seem to matter.
    Both have Apple style details and ADB connections. Why bother?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:22:37
    Hello, in the search of a mechanicall keyboard i came across an OLIVETTI.

    MODEL : ANK 60 -105       RT4958TWFR

    I look several time on the wiki and google, find only one thread talking about a rt4958twfr but was not an olivetti, the guy talking about seems to say that it is mechanical.

    But i find literaly nothing Oo

    Could somebody say me what type of switch or if the keyboard is worth the time ?



    Thanx Eugene.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:37:17
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:22:37
    Hello, in the search of a mechanicall keyboard i came across an OLIVETTI.

    MODEL : ANK 60 -105       RT4958TWFR

    I look several time on the wiki and google, find only one thread talking about a rt4958twfr but was not an olivetti, the guy talking about seems to say that it is mechanical.

    But i find literaly nothing Oo

    Could somebody say me what type of switch or if the keyboard is worth the time ?



    Thanx Eugene.
    pic?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:55:41
    Only an ant pic at the moment, Hope to have one taller tomorrow

    http://www.noelshack.com/2015-33-1439340854-keyboard.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:59:46
    Apparently cant use the "balise" to include the pic, seems weird, keyobard has the logo on the right with a black strip, still searching on the net about something similar.

    Wanted to add a question, it seems that you can buy some "weird" starwars / or colored key with some face on it ?
    Are they some collectible thing like pokemon cards or does it have an other use i dont know ?

    Thx
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 August 2015, 06:41:02
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:55:41
    Only an ant pic at the moment, Hope to have one taller tomorrow

    http://www.noelshack.com/2015-33-1439340854-keyboard.jpg
    Ideally we'd have a top down picture, picture of the bottom, and a picture with a keycap pulled. Honestly have zero clue with the information you've given and that picture.


    Quote from: Eugene45 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:59:46
    More

    Apparently cant use the "balise" to include the pic, seems weird, keyobard has the logo on the right with a black strip, still searching on the net about something similar.



    Wanted to add a question, it seems that you can buy some "weird" starwars / or colored key with some face on it ?
    Are they some collectible thing like pokemon cards or does it have an other use i dont know ?

    Thx

    You answered your own question. They're just for fun and collectible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 12 August 2015, 06:53:24
    Hello! Which axis of a matrix is usually strobed and which sensed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 07:31:17
    @CPTBadAss

    I dont want to quote / requote and requote a message.

    I found a ank 61 105 on ebay italia, seems that the ank 60 105  it was not a meca, so dropt it.

    Found a model M on local craiglist but the seller wont sell it without the computer.

    And with all of that people are on vacation and just email you, i'am in vacation, dont care, resend on end of month.

    So yeah the hunt continue :) So excited.

    Thx for the answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 August 2015, 07:52:51
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 12 August 2015, 06:53:24
    Hello! Which axis of a matrix is usually strobed and which sensed?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50437.msg1193047#msg1193047

    If I understand Soarer's post correctly, the columns (Y axis or function row to spacebar) are strobe lines. The rows (X axis or capslock to backspace) are sense lines.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 12 August 2015, 07:57:46
    Thank you Captain! Your answer is quick!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 23:46:23
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 August 2015, 07:45:37
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 23:46:23
    Anywhere I can buy a center stem black spacebar cherry profile 6.25 today?

    Don't think anyone stocks actual Cherry/GMK spacebars now. When there was the GMK spacebar random buy last year, there were a few black and whites. You could try putting up a classifieds to get one of those.

    If you're looking for Cherry profile, you should be able to pickup DCS spacebars from SP (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/blank-key-packs/dcs-spacebars).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 13 August 2015, 08:58:16
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:11:35
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 23:46:23
    Anywhere I can buy a center stem black spacebar cherry profile 6.25 today?
    From this GB: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71507.0
    But I think it's little cost.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MAR82 on Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:21:49
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 23:46:23
    Anywhere I can buy a center stem black spacebar cherry profile 6.25 today?

    I know they had them in the JTK Debut GB, and I think Bunny said there will be some extras on ctrlalt.io when it reopens
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Fri, 14 August 2015, 02:33:49
    Is anyone here familiar with the KBP V80 and how many screws you need to remove to take it apart? I can feel SOMETHING under the label but I don't want to destroy the label just to find that I didn't need to, and I assume there are others under the rubber pads but I haven't looked yet.

    In case it makes a difference, mine is the Matias version.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 August 2015, 07:57:25
    Quote from: Ludovician on Fri, 14 August 2015, 02:33:49
    Is anyone here familiar with the KBP V80 and how many screws you need to remove to take it apart? I can feel SOMETHING under the label but I don't want to destroy the label just to find that I didn't need to, and I assume there are others under the rubber pads but I haven't looked yet.

    In case it makes a difference, mine is the Matias version.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73438.0

    I think there's only 1 screw and snap fits.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Fri, 14 August 2015, 08:00:05
    Was there a special 1.5u sized keycap that is related to Small Fry or something? Does anyone have a photo or more info about it?

    I vaguely recall that it was doubleshot, black base, cyan legends. Very neat cap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 August 2015, 08:04:04
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 14 August 2015, 08:00:05
    Was there a special 1.5u sized keycap that is related to Small Fry or something? Does anyone have a photo or more info about it?

    I vaguely recall that it was doubleshot, black base, cyan legends. Very neat cap.

    Friends and Family cap. Smallfry and inlikeflynn had caps made by SP. They wanted to send them out to GHers randomly to remind them that Geekhack is more than keyboards.

    Here's a picture from rkinze from the 2013 Keycon in Chicago (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47186.0) when Smallfry's family came and mkawa handed them out.

    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47186.0;attach=32178;image)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Fri, 14 August 2015, 08:07:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 August 2015, 08:04:04
    Quote from: Karura on Fri, 14 August 2015, 08:00:05
    Was there a special 1.5u sized keycap that is related to Small Fry or something? Does anyone have a photo or more info about it?

    I vaguely recall that it was doubleshot, black base, cyan legends. Very neat cap.

    Friends and Family cap. Smallfry and inlikeflynn had caps made by SP. They wanted to send them out to GHers randomly to remind them that Geekhack is more than keyboards.

    Here's a picture from rkinze from the 2013 Keycon in Chicago (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47186.0) when Smallfry's family came and mkawa handed them out.

    Show Image
    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47186.0;attach=32178;image)


    Ah yes, that's the one, it's very neat. Thanks for sharing :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:51:31
    Quote from: 3K on Fri, 14 August 2015, 08:06:42
    So I just handwired (first time) an external numpad, put in a teensy, burned the firmware following matt3os guide and am now experiencing random inputs of 3 certain characters on my numpad. (fast enough to not allow any other input)
    I checked the source code twice and couldn't find any visible shorts.. so what could the problem be? I don't know what to do anymore.  :-X

    This post has been split to a separate topic, found here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74478.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:20:58
    2 question :

    Someone had a graphic / pics on the part of a mecha, something simple just i can send it to a friend to help him understand how its make.
    Case / board / switch / caps, i'am right ?

    How do you creat your keyboard pics in your signature like some people do ?

    Thanks

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:23:02
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:20:58
    1) Someone had a graphic / pics on the part of a mecha, something simple just i can send it to a friend to help him understand how its make.
    Case / board / switch / caps, i'am right ?

    2) How do you creat your keyboard pics in your signature like some people do ?

    1) This might help. But any build log would be a good place to look. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47093.0. You've essentially got it yes.

    2) From the OP: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_GG
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:30:13
    Ok in the thread you link, the plate is the piece at the bottom.

    So case / board ( pcb ) / switch / plate / caps ?

    Or does it have an other denomination ?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:31:12
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:30:13
    Ok in the thread you link, the plate is the piece at the bottom.

    So case / board ( pcb ) / switch / plate / caps ?

    Or does it have an other denomination ?

    Thanks

    Top of the case
    Caps
    Plate with switches in it
    PCB
    Bottom of the case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:35:30
    Oh okay.

    Thx Captain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 15 August 2015, 03:58:31
    IMSTO put up some BSP sets in his store. I'm interested in the Peacock set, but never having a BSP set in my hands before, here's my question: BSP doesn't make spacebars, but I have a PBT spacebar from a Cherry dyesub set, would it fit the BSP color?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 15 August 2015, 04:31:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 August 2015, 07:57:25
    Quote from: Ludovician on Fri, 14 August 2015, 02:33:49
    Is anyone here familiar with the KBP V80 and how many screws you need to remove to take it apart? I can feel SOMETHING under the label but I don't want to destroy the label just to find that I didn't need to, and I assume there are others under the rubber pads but I haven't looked yet.

    In case it makes a difference, mine is the Matias version.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73438.0

    I think there's only 1 screw and snap fits.

    Thank you. This was correct. I thought there would have been some deviously hidden under the pads or the label, like I've seen some other keyboards do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Sat, 15 August 2015, 05:54:05
    I know about the funding to make the SP Cherry legend replica, but I was wondering, who exactly designed the vector files, and owns the rights to use those moulds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sat, 15 August 2015, 05:59:18
    Looking for a picture of a keyboard with dolch modifiers with beige alphas <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:16:44
    Quote from: Karura on Sat, 15 August 2015, 05:54:05
    I know about the funding to make the SP Cherry legend replica, but I was wondering, who exactly designed the vector files, and owns the rights to use those moulds?
    Hashbaz has the vectors (and also owns the DCS Cherry legends, I believe). There was a lot of discussion (drama) about the Cherry legends in the Pulse IC (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61822.msg1443018#msg1443018).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:48:43
    Quote from: wlhlm on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:16:44
    Quote from: Karura on Sat, 15 August 2015, 05:54:05
    I know about the funding to make the SP Cherry legend replica, but I was wondering, who exactly designed the vector files, and owns the rights to use those moulds?
    Hashbaz has the vectors (and also owns the DCS Cherry legends, I believe). There was a lot of discussion (drama) about the Cherry legends in the Pulse IC (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61822.msg1443018#msg1443018).

    That is a lot of talk Oo

    Can someone ELI5/TLDR ?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:52:35
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:48:43
    Quote from: wlhlm on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:16:44
    Quote from: Karura on Sat, 15 August 2015, 05:54:05
    I know about the funding to make the SP Cherry legend replica, but I was wondering, who exactly designed the vector files, and owns the rights to use those moulds?
    Hashbaz has the vectors (and also owns the DCS Cherry legends, I believe). There was a lot of discussion (drama) about the Cherry legends in the Pulse IC (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61822.msg1443018#msg1443018).

    That is a lot of talk Oo

    Can someone ELI5/TLDR ?
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42659.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Sat, 15 August 2015, 10:32:09
    Thanks, was great to read.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hikak on Sat, 15 August 2015, 14:11:12
    Hello guys. Im new to this forum but i was wondering what is the difference between classic mechanical and gaming mechanical keyboard for example: http://www.amazon.com/QPAD-MK-50-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B006L3S4OO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439665231&sr=8-1&keywords=QPAD+MK-50
    and
    http://www.amazon.com/Cherry-G80-3850LYBEU-2-Professional-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B00H4IKUAG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439665025&sr=8-1&keywords=cherry+mx+3.0#product-description-iframe
    does the response time differ with non gaming? does it not have antighosting? if there are any advatages to gaming keyboard over normal one please let me know... thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 15 August 2015, 14:42:12
    I wouldn't really consider "classic" to be either of those, they are both modern mechanical keyboards. Gaming is just a moniker to sell more keyboards, you won't notice a difference between (most) mechanical keyboards as most of them have at least 6KRO (USB) and even higher than that. The chances that you will ever get ghosting in a mechanical keyboard is slim since each switch is separate, though on older keyboards you may have some issues (old terminal boards from the 80s for example). Any modern board won't really have that problem unless the company that made it just completely cheaped out on it (those generic keyboards you can find on eBay for $30 for example). Average human response time is around 250ms so as long as the keyboard is faster than that there is absolutely no reason to get one that is 10ms response over one that is 20ms response for example.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sun, 16 August 2015, 02:38:12
    Keyboard matrix (including ghosting) explained (http://www.dribin.org/dave/keyboard/one_html/).

    For example, my TypeMatrix ghosts on a certain keyboard combination. Most keyboards block though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Mon, 17 August 2015, 03:41:05
    Does the model number of Model Ms/SSKs change depending on year?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 17 August 2015, 05:38:43
    Anyone know if puple LEDs with no (or very minimal) light outside of the visible spectrum (UV) exist somewhere? All that I've found are Purple+UV.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 17 August 2015, 06:28:24
    Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 17 August 2015, 03:41:05
    Does the model number of Model Ms/SSKs change depending on year?

    AFAIK the model numbers denote the legend configuration and type of interface (PS/2 or terminal), not the date the board was made.

    EDIT: http://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_Enhanced_Keyboard#Noteworthy_part_numbers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 07:04:35

    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 17 August 2015, 05:38:43
    Anyone know if puple LEDs with no (or very minimal) light outside of the visible spectrum (UV) exist somewhere? All that I've found are Purple+UV.

    I have looked high and low and cannot find any.  And at least for cheap LED's, purple and uv seem to be used interchangeably since they are close on the spectrum. Chinese say "差不多".  I don't agree
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 August 2015, 08:07:13
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 07:04:35

    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 17 August 2015, 05:38:43
    Anyone know if puple LEDs with no (or very minimal) light outside of the visible spectrum (UV) exist somewhere? All that I've found are Purple+UV.

    I have looked high and low and cannot find any.  And at least for cheap LED's, purple and uv seem to be used interchangeably since they are close on the spectrum. Chinese say "差不多".  I don't agree

    I also do not think there are purple LEDs which aren't UV LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Mon, 17 August 2015, 09:01:18
    Quote from: njbair on Mon, 17 August 2015, 06:28:24
    Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 17 August 2015, 03:41:05
    Does the model number of Model Ms/SSKs change depending on year?

    AFAIK the model numbers denote the legend configuration and type of interface (PS/2 or terminal), not the date the board was made.

    EDIT: http://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_Enhanced_Keyboard#Noteworthy_part_numbers

    OK, cool, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 09:05:36

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 August 2015, 08:07:13
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 07:04:35

    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 17 August 2015, 05:38:43
    Anyone know if puple LEDs with no (or very minimal) light outside of the visible spectrum (UV) exist somewhere? All that I've found are Purple+UV.

    I have looked high and low and cannot find any.  And at least for cheap LED's, purple and uv seem to be used interchangeably since they are close on the spectrum. Chinese say "差不多".  I don't agree

    I also do not think there are purple LEDs which aren't UV LEDs.

    So I was just doing a bit more research about it and found a forum where some rave DJ's were saying that they are starting to move back toward fluorescent bulb black lights because the LED black lights can only make some things fluoresce (sp?) where the old school ones can make it all glow. But they're hotter and not as bright as the LED ones. The things that do glow under UV LED's glow brighter though. :shrug:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lucas on Mon, 17 August 2015, 13:50:26
    I've searched the forum and can't figure this out...

    Where can I get three replacement switches for my Filco Zero (Fukka White) keyboard?

    Know anyone who might even do the soldering/repair for me as well?

    Thanks so much! <3 lr
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 August 2015, 13:55:38
    Quote from: lucas on Mon, 17 August 2015, 13:50:26
    I've searched the forum and can't figure this out...

    Where can I get three replacement switches for my Filco Zero (Fukka White) keyboard?

    Know anyone who might even do the soldering/repair for me as well?

    Thanks so much! <3 lr

    MK.com might have some simplified White Alps aka Fukka Whites. It might be easier to find Matias Clicks though. LastPilot and sethk are builders in the USA that you can contact to see if they'll do the work for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 17 August 2015, 21:24:19
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 17 August 2015, 21:40:51
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 17 August 2015, 21:24:19
    Does the stock KMAC 2 pcb/plate support an offset spacebar?  Or would I have to buy another pcb for that?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59056.0

    From, those pictures, I'd say no
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:01:32
    Does CPTBadAss ever sleep?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:16:55

    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:01:32
    Does CPTBadAss ever sleep?

    I dunno BUT.....he sees YOU while you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:18:22

    Quote from: Halverson on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:16:55

    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:01:32
    Does CPTBadAss ever sleep?

    I dunno BUT.....he sees YOU while you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake...
    You do know that sharks are perpetually on the naughty list, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:31:51

    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:18:22

    Quote from: Halverson on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:16:55

    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Mon, 17 August 2015, 22:01:32
    Does CPTBadAss ever sleep?

    I dunno BUT.....he sees YOU while you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake...
    You do know that sharks are perpetually on the naughty list, right?

    And that's how I like it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 17 August 2015, 23:11:25
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dark_wizzie on Tue, 18 August 2015, 05:57:48
    Steel or aluminum backplate for Kmac 2?

    I think steel will be more rigid while aluminum will look better.

    HALP ME DECIDEEEE  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 07:15:37
    Steel

    Any good keycap puller who can be bought in EU ? Or from another country but not with like 20 dollars shipping ?

    What is a fair price for a Model M ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 07:21:03
    Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Tue, 18 August 2015, 05:57:48
    Steel or aluminum backplate for Kmac 2?

    I think steel will be more rigid while aluminum will look better.

    HALP ME DECIDEEEE  ;)

    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 07:15:37
    Steel

    Agreed. I like steel plates over aluminum. They're more rigid.

    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 07:15:37
    1) Any good keycap puller who can be bought in EU ? Or from another country but not with like 20 dollars shipping ?

    2) What is a fair price for a Model M ?

    1) I'm not sure about EU keycap pullers. You could always ask someone on the forum to help proxy one to you from the USA though.

    2) I'd be comfortable paying $20-30 tops. But you can find them for cheaper. I've picked some up for $2 from e-waste recyclers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 07:55:47
    Ok design is pretty simple, will take the time to craft one, not worth the price + shipping here.

    Thx captain.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:06:39
    UKKeycaps sells keypullers (as well as other bits) from the UK.

    http://ukkeycaps.bigcartel.com/product/ring-key-puller

    The Keyboard Co also sell the Filco keypullers if you wanted a wire one (and a large shipping bill...).

    As for the plates, I prefer aluminium as I find steel a bit too hard/harsh. My personal preference is no plate though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:49:32
    Where can I buy a 60% acrylic case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:30:57
    What's the latest status on the situation with Alps aftermarket keycaps? I didn't quite keep up with it, are there any progress?

    Was there any Korean or other customs with Alps support? I remember Duck having a couple of boards with optional Alps support, other than that...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:35:48
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:30:57
    What's the latest status on the situation with Alps aftermarket keycaps? I didn't quite keep up with it, are there any progress?

    Was there any Korean or other customs with Alps support? I remember Duck having a couple of boards with optional Alps support, other than that...
    There was a drop recently for Alps doubleshot caps (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps?mode=guest_open).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:42:22
    Quote from: apolotary on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:49:32
    Where can I buy a 60% acrylic case?

    I'm not sure stateside but UKKeycaps seems to have some. I think they're sourced from TaoBao. MK.com should have the TEX acrylic case too.

    Quote from: wlhlm on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:35:48
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:30:57
    1) What's the latest status on the situation with Alps aftermarket keycaps? I didn't quite keep up with it, are there any progress?

    2) Was there any Korean or other customs with Alps support? I remember Duck having a couple of boards with optional Alps support, other than that...
    There was a drop recently for Alps doubleshot caps (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps?mode=guest_open).

    1) Besides the Massdrop caps, Badwrench ran a modifier set and Matias now has lasered ABS Alps caps and stabilizers for sale on their site.

    2) Kingsaver
        Duck Mini V1
        Duck Mini V2
        Duck Orion and Viper
        Leeku 1800 and 3000 PCBs
        KBParadise V60 and V80. Pretty sure the V60 PCB/Plate will drop into Poker style cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:44:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:42:22
    Quote from: apolotary on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:49:32
    Where can I buy a 60% acrylic case?

    I'm not sure stateside but UKKeycaps seems to have some. I think they're sourced from TaoBao.

    Quote from: wlhlm on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:35:48
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:30:57
    1) What's the latest status on the situation with Alps aftermarket keycaps? I didn't quite keep up with it, are there any progress?

    2) Was there any Korean or other customs with Alps support? I remember Duck having a couple of boards with optional Alps support, other than that...
    There was a drop recently for Alps doubleshot caps (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps?mode=guest_open).

    1) Besides the Massdrop caps, Badwrench ran a modifier set and Matias now has lasered ABS Alps caps and stabilizers for sale on their site.

    2) Kingsaver
        Duck Mini V1
        Duck Mini V2
        Duck Orion and Viper
        Leeku 1800 and 3000 PCBs
        KBParadise V60 and V80. Pretty sure the V60 PCB/Plate will drop into Poker style cases.
    Nice list! I want add Duck Orion V2

    Also, didn't Filco and Ducky make some Alps boards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:48:47
    Quote from: wlhlm on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:44:25
    Nice list! I want add Duck Orion V2

    Also, didn't Filco and Ducky make some Alps boards?

    Ooo good call on the Orion V2.

    And yes there's the Filco Zero and the Ducky 1087XM. The Zero is hard to come by and I think the V80 is a great substitute for it. The Ducky 1087XM is possibly the worst keyboard I've ever purchased. It's laughably low quality in my opinion. I generally don't recommend hunting for one when there's other options.

    Think Newegg had a bunch of Clicker keyboards which had Alps-mount clones as well but I don't recall the models off the top of my head.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:50:53
    Is there a current place to buy a JD40 keyboard from, or should I look on the classifieds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:51:50
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:50:53
    Is there a current place to buy a JD40 keyboard from, or should I look on the classifieds?

    I thought CTRL ALT had them in stock. Could check there but I may be mistaken. Otherwise I'm not sure anyone else has them. Or maybe jdcarpe has a few on hand he could sell you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:57:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:51:50
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:50:53
    Is there a current place to buy a JD40 keyboard from, or should I look on the classifieds?

    I thought CTRL ALT had them in stock. Could check there but I may be mistaken. Otherwise I'm not sure anyone else has them. Or maybe jdcarpe has a few on hand he could sell you?
    The CTRL ALT store is currently closed, but maybe they will have some when it re opens.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 13:41:50
    Quote from: Hzza on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:06:39
    UKKeycaps sells keypullers (as well as other bits) from the UK.

    http://ukkeycaps.bigcartel.com/product/ring-key-puller

    The Keyboard Co also sell the Filco keypullers if you wanted a wire one (and a large shipping bill...).

    As for the plates, I prefer aluminium as I find steel a bit too hard/harsh. My personal preference is no plate though.

    Oh EU shipping is £8 :eek: :eek:



    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cicada88 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:19:16
    I was playing a computer game on my HHKB that requires FN + Up Arrow.  How do I function + Up Arrow on a HHKB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:34:31
    Quote from: Cicada88 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:19:16
    I was playing a computer game on my HHKB that requires FN + Up Arrow.  How do I function + Up Arrow on a HHKB?

    Function and open bracket [ would make an up arrow. I don't think you can do function and up arrow though unless you've got Hasu's controller. I'm not 100% sure though.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kennardsmith on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:50:09
    Quote from: Cicada88 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:19:16
    I was playing a computer game on my HHKB that requires FN + Up Arrow.  How do I function + Up Arrow on a HHKB?

    If that somehow is "Page Up", Fn + L should do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 04:36:26
    So, have a pretty good list on what to follow / watch out on local market, but my list dont include numeric keypad.

    Any oldschool model that you must follow / have a look on ?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 06:50:31


    Quote from: Eugene45 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 04:36:26
    So, have a pretty good list on what to follow / watch out on local market, but my list dont include numeric keypad.

    Any oldschool model that you must follow / have a look on ?

    Thanks

    Most people who are into numpads seem to like the cherry g80-3700 or Topre 23UB. There's an IBM numpad that looks cool. But to me, there's no numpad that stands out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 07:47:15
    Okay, my list is now longer.

    7 days from following local craiglist, nothing who shine, that is going to be long.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 07:49:44
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 07:47:15
    Okay, my list is now longer.

    7 days from following local craiglist, nothing who shine, that is going to be long.

    LOL. If you think 7 days is a long wait you're in for a rude awakening. It took me years to track down some of the keyboards I own. This place will teach you patience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:25:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 06:50:31


    Quote from: Eugene45 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 04:36:26
    So, have a pretty good list on what to follow / watch out on local market, but my list dont include numeric keypad.

    Any oldschool model that you must follow / have a look on ?

    Thanks

    Most people who are into numpads seem to like the cherry g80-3700 or Topre 23UB. There's an IBM numpad that looks cool. But to me, there's no numpad that stands out.

    FYI, you'll also want to look for Realforce 23U (white version).  The B denotes the black version, and for whatever reason people tend to use 23UB when referring to a generic (undefined) version of that numpad.

    Cherry G80-3700 is great.  I'm pretty sure they've all got MX Black switches by default, so if that bothers you be prepared to swap them.

    And as CPTBadAss said, 7 days is nothing.  ;) :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:28:53
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:25:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 06:50:31


    Quote from: Eugene45 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 04:36:26
    So, have a pretty good list on what to follow / watch out on local market, but my list dont include numeric keypad.

    Any oldschool model that you must follow / have a look on ?

    Thanks

    Most people who are into numpads seem to like the cherry g80-3700 or Topre 23UB. There's an IBM numpad that looks cool. But to me, there's no numpad that stands out.

    FYI, you'll also want to look for Realforce 23U (white version).  The B denotes the black version, and for whatever reason people tend to use 23UB when referring to a generic (undefined) version of that numpad.

    Cherry G80-3700 is great.  I'm pretty sure they've all got MX Black switches by default, so if that bothers you be prepared to swap them.

    And as CPTBadAss said, 7 days is nothing.  ;) :P

    TIL about the Topre B letter.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:45:22
    Qtronix do a pretty cool extended numpad with Aristotle (clone Cherry) switches.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Qtronix_QX-032

    There's also the G80-5700 which was the companion board to the G80-5000 but they're like hens-teeth rare and practically are less useful than the 3700 to boot. It's more of a collectors item than something you're likely to get any real use out of.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-5700

    edit - Oh, and if you're a masochist there's the numpad for the Apple Adjustable keyboard as well.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Adjustable_Keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:54:34
    Where can I buy a couple of Topre sliders? Need to replace a jammed slider on the Realforce.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:01:21
    Okay, yeah 7 days is nothing, pretty sure atleast most find could be on garage sale, but season is already over here.
    I got something, but yeah was pretty dumb, got a hit on a NMB tech, exchange with seller did go great all that, well its in the mail now, only problem, in all our mail exchange not one time i ask the seller about model number, seller says it's mechanical in all our mail so hope i wasnt fooled.

    But yeah prety dumb, hope it turn great out :)

    Thanks all, the list goes up and the love / motivation for the find grow haha :).



    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:08:25
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:54:34
    Where can I buy a couple of Topre sliders? Need to replace a jammed slider on the Realforce.

    Um...they're not a regular thing you can grab AFAIK. You can get them printed on Shapeways, see if someone is selling Novatouch sliders, or wait for JTK sliders to come out.

    But have you tried taking the keyboard apart to see if it's just an alignment issue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:42:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:08:25
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:54:34
    Where can I buy a couple of Topre sliders? Need to replace a jammed slider on the Realforce.

    Um...they're not a regular thing you can grab AFAIK. You can get them printed on Shapeways, see if someone is selling Novatouch sliders, or wait for JTK sliders to come out.

    But have you tried taking the keyboard apart to see if it's just an alignment issue?

    It's a bit weird, I bought a Realforce 86U in used condition for roughly $60 today. It's almost fine, except it seems like the previous owner broke the Esc keycap, tried to unscrew the case and take the slider out, but eventually decided to quit and put it up on an auction. Here's the album: http://imgur.com/a/Z6VgK

    To me it seems like a simple cleanup and maintenance job, so I'm getting it next week in the mail and looking for replacement parts.

    I wonder if it's a good idea to ask matt3o for a spare slider. The shapeways store charge me $20 for shipping, an unacceptable price in my opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:43:16
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:42:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:08:25
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:54:34
    Where can I buy a couple of Topre sliders? Need to replace a jammed slider on the Realforce.

    Um...they're not a regular thing you can grab AFAIK. You can get them printed on Shapeways, see if someone is selling Novatouch sliders, or wait for JTK sliders to come out.

    But have you tried taking the keyboard apart to see if it's just an alignment issue?

    It's a bit weird, I bought a Realforce 86U in used condition for roughly $60 today. It's almost fine, except it seems like the previous owner broke the Esc keycap, tried to unscrew the case and take the slider out, but eventually decided to quit and put it up on an auction. Here's the album: http://imgur.com/a/Z6VgK

    To me it seems like a simple cleanup and maintenance job, so I'm getting it next week in the mail and looking for replacement parts.

    I wonder if it's a good idea to ask matt3o for a spare slider. The shapeways store charge me $20 for shipping, an unacceptable price in my opinion.

    Throw something up on classifieds, it's possible that someone will have extra topre sliders from doing a swap to MX-compatible sliders.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:44:55
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:43:16
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:42:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:08:25
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:54:34
    Where can I buy a couple of Topre sliders? Need to replace a jammed slider on the Realforce.

    Um...they're not a regular thing you can grab AFAIK. You can get them printed on Shapeways, see if someone is selling Novatouch sliders, or wait for JTK sliders to come out.

    But have you tried taking the keyboard apart to see if it's just an alignment issue?

    It's a bit weird, I bought a Realforce 86U in used condition for roughly $60 today. It's almost fine, except it seems like the previous owner broke the Esc keycap, tried to unscrew the case and take the slider out, but eventually decided to quit and put it up on an auction. Here's the album: http://imgur.com/a/Z6VgK

    To me it seems like a simple cleanup and maintenance job, so I'm getting it next week in the mail and looking for replacement parts.

    I wonder if it's a good idea to ask matt3o for a spare slider. The shapeways store charge me $20 for shipping, an unacceptable price in my opinion.

    Throw something up on classifieds, it's possible that someone will have extra topre sliders from doing a swap to MX-compatible sliders.

    I'm a relatively new user, so I can't post threads on classifieds at least for a week. That's why I'm asking here  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:48:28
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:42:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:08:25
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:54:34
    Where can I buy a couple of Topre sliders? Need to replace a jammed slider on the Realforce.

    Um...they're not a regular thing you can grab AFAIK. You can get them printed on Shapeways, see if someone is selling Novatouch sliders, or wait for JTK sliders to come out.

    But have you tried taking the keyboard apart to see if it's just an alignment issue?

    It's a bit weird, I bought a Realforce 86U in used condition for roughly $60 today. It's almost fine, except it seems like the previous owner broke the Esc keycap, tried to unscrew the case and take the slider out, but eventually decided to quit and put it up on an auction. Here's the album: http://imgur.com/a/Z6VgK (http://imgur.com/a/Z6VgK)

    To me it seems like a simple cleanup and maintenance job, so I'm getting it next week in the mail and looking for replacement parts.

    I wonder if it's a good idea to ask matt3o for a spare slider. The shapeways store charge me $20 for shipping, an unacceptable price in my opinion.

    From your photo it looks like the stem of the escape key was just broken off inside the slider barrel it may be possible to just remove that piece of stem and then everything work like it should. You should be able to find a replacement red escape key to fill that spot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:50:35
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:48:28
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:42:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:08:25
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:54:34
    Where can I buy a couple of Topre sliders? Need to replace a jammed slider on the Realforce.

    Um...they're not a regular thing you can grab AFAIK. You can get them printed on Shapeways, see if someone is selling Novatouch sliders, or wait for JTK sliders to come out.

    But have you tried taking the keyboard apart to see if it's just an alignment issue?

    It's a bit weird, I bought a Realforce 86U in used condition for roughly $60 today. It's almost fine, except it seems like the previous owner broke the Esc keycap, tried to unscrew the case and take the slider out, but eventually decided to quit and put it up on an auction. Here's the album: http://imgur.com/a/Z6VgK

    To me it seems like a simple cleanup and maintenance job, so I'm getting it next week in the mail and looking for replacement parts.

    I wonder if it's a good idea to ask matt3o for a spare slider. The shapeways store charge me $20 for shipping, an unacceptable price in my opinion.

    From your photo it looks like the stem of the escape key was just broken off inside the slider barrel it may be possible to just remove that piece of stem and then everything work like it should. You should be able to find a replacement red escape key also to fill that spot.

    Yeah I hope so too! But if the previous owner couldn't get it out, it's probably stuck for good
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 10:04:26
    Quote from: apolotary on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:50:35
    Yeah I hope so too! But if the previous owner couldn't get it out, it's probably stuck for good

    You'd be surprised how easy some fixes are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Thu, 20 August 2015, 05:15:46
    OK, this is something that's probably really obvious but I haven't done this before.

    I've desoldered the switches in my new KBP V80MTS. 2 pins per switch. I'm not sure how to get the plate off, this is the first keyboard I've tried to desolder all the switches from.

    Do I need to try to line them up and pull the plate off straight? Does this require that every single pin has been perfectly desoldered? Is there an easy way to tell if I've missed a bit of solder which is causing a problem? (Note that I have quite bad eyesight.)

    Does anyone have any general tips for this kind of thing?

    This really would have been easier if it had been delivered as parts  :))

    Edit: Never mind, it doesn't look like I need to take off the plate as I can pull the switches out through it. So close to finishing this keyboard and having it usable!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 05:39:26
    You can just pull the switches. I've found Alps to be harder to remove than MX, so you may need to use a spudging tool to get some of them out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Thu, 20 August 2015, 06:06:11
    Yeah, I'm using a flathead screwdriver. So far I've accidentally broken a pin off 3 of them and I have 16 switches left in the board. Good thing I don't really care about the Matias QL switches.

    The 16 remaining switches are still partially soldered on, apparently. Going to need to fix that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 20 August 2015, 07:11:32
    Suck all the solder off, as best you can, and grab them with pliers from the front and pull.

    If it is too hard, try to remove more solder. It shouldn't be like pulling teeth, but sometimes seems like it is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zustiur on Thu, 20 August 2015, 07:19:54
    What's the best way to remove pad printed labels?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 07:28:23
    Quote from: Zustiur on Thu, 20 August 2015, 07:19:54
    What's the best way to remove pad printed labels?
    Sandpaper? Isopropyl alcohol? Not really sure tbh.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 August 2015, 07:28:30
    Quote from: Zustiur on Thu, 20 August 2015, 07:19:54
    What's the best way to remove pad printed labels?

    This thread might help you

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73551.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:05:35
    sorry for the kind of "crazy" question but is there any harmful chemicals in a switch (a gateron here) ?

    I'm asking because the other day while modding, I cut my thumb with the pin of a gateron. And since I'm loosing my nail on this thumb, and it's spreading to the other nails of this hand.
    I casually asked a doc and he didn't seem concerned.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:16:26
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:05:35
    sorry for the kind of "crazy" question but is there any harmful chemicals in a switch (a gateron here) ?

    I'm asking because the other day while modding, I cut my thumb with the pin of a gateron. And since I'm loosing my nail on this thumb, and it's spreading to the other nails of this hand.
    I casually asked a doc and he didn't seem concerned.

    The lube maybe? Pretty sure you should trust your doc with medical advice more than a keyboard forum though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:18:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:16:26
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:05:35
    sorry for the kind of "crazy" question but is there any harmful chemicals in a switch (a gateron here) ?

    I'm asking because the other day while modding, I cut my thumb with the pin of a gateron. And since I'm loosing my nail on this thumb, and it's spreading to the other nails of this hand.
    I casually asked a doc and he didn't seem concerned.

    The lube maybe? Pretty sure you should trust your doc with medical advice more than a keyboard forum though.

    The switch wasn't open, my thumb only came in contact with pin and housing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:21:09
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:18:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:16:26
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:05:35
    sorry for the kind of "crazy" question but is there any harmful chemicals in a switch (a gateron here) ?

    I'm asking because the other day while modding, I cut my thumb with the pin of a gateron. And since I'm loosing my nail on this thumb, and it's spreading to the other nails of this hand.
    I casually asked a doc and he didn't seem concerned.

    The lube maybe? Pretty sure you should trust your doc with medical advice more than a keyboard forum though.

    The switch wasn't open, my thumb only came in contact with pin and housing.

    The switch wasn't open? Doesn't really matter. Could have had trace amounts of lube on the outside or residues from the manufacturing processes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:47:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:21:09
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:18:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:16:26
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:05:35
    sorry for the kind of "crazy" question but is there any harmful chemicals in a switch (a gateron here) ?

    I'm asking because the other day while modding, I cut my thumb with the pin of a gateron. And since I'm loosing my nail on this thumb, and it's spreading to the other nails of this hand.
    I casually asked a doc and he didn't seem concerned.

    The lube maybe? Pretty sure you should trust your doc with medical advice more than a keyboard forum though.

    The switch wasn't open, my thumb only came in contact with pin and housing.

    The switch wasn't open? Doesn't really matter. Could have had trace amounts of lube on the outside or residues from the manufacturing processes.

    mmm haven't considered that, thanks cpt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 14:36:29
    So now that i have my NMB RT-102 what do i use to connect it on my laptop in usb ?




    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 14:38:45
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 14:36:29
    So now that i have my NMB RT-102 what do i use to connect it on my laptop in usb ?

    I'm gonna guess it's a DIN5 connector so you'll need a DIN5 to PS/2 then PS/2 to USB. If it's not DIN5, disregard and show a picture.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 16:14:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 14:38:45
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 14:36:29
    So now that i have my NMB RT-102 what do i use to connect it on my laptop in usb ?

    I'm gonna guess it's a DIN5 connector so you'll need a DIN5 to PS/2 then PS/2 to USB. If it's not DIN5, disregard and show a picture.

    I think its this

    TY Captain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 16:46:27
    So i need : DIN 5 female -> PS/2 female
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 18:19:47
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 16:46:27
    So i need : DIN 5 female -> PS/2 female

    I honestly didn't even realize you could get multiple kinds of DIN5 to PS/2 adapters. I thought it was just standard. I have a DIN5 female to PS/2 male then female PS/2 to USB male.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 20 August 2015, 20:05:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 18:19:47
    I honestly didn't even realize you could get multiple kinds of DIN5 to PS/2 adapters.

    I have both kinds but each is male at one end and female at the other.

    However, with a male-male cable, also, you could get there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Heliobb on Fri, 21 August 2015, 07:07:38
    I want to start making prototype with cardboard like below did for Shergo V1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71614.0)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71614.0;attach=99485;image
     (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71614.0;attach=99485;image)
    But I want to do something really cheap. I wonder if buying this one:
    (http://img0.leboncoin.fr/images/6e9/6e9123c0a6f515fa034cdbc4ee420ea3130068fa.jpg)

    And unsolder switches should be a good idea? Never open a cherry
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 August 2015, 07:46:03
    Quote from: Heliobb on Fri, 21 August 2015, 07:07:38
    I want to start making prototype with cardboard like below did for Shergo V1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71614.0)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71614.0;attach=99485;image
     (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71614.0;attach=99485;image)
    But I want to do something really cheap. I wonder if buying this one:
    Show Image
    (http://img0.leboncoin.fr/images/6e9/6e9123c0a6f515fa034cdbc4ee420ea3130068fa.jpg)


    And unsolder switches should be a good idea? Never open a cherry

    So if I understand you correctly, you'd like to buy very cheap MX mount switches to build a prototype. Harvesting an old board isn't a bad idea at all. And old Cherry boards are easy to open up. You could also look into picking up Gateron or Greetech switches from say MechanicalKeyboards.com. AFAIK, the switches are cheap and they're new.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Fri, 21 August 2015, 07:50:10
    .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 August 2015, 07:51:10
    Edited because azhdar edited.

    (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f1/92/8e/f1928e1601cdf8dff055887c1959cdff.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Heliobb on Fri, 21 August 2015, 08:02:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 August 2015, 07:46:03
    Quote from: Heliobb on Fri, 21 August 2015, 07:07:38
    I want to start making prototype with cardboard like below did for Shergo V1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71614.0)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71614.0;attach=99485;image
     (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71614.0;attach=99485;image)
    But I want to do something really cheap. I wonder if buying this one:
    Show Image
    (http://img0.leboncoin.fr/images/6e9/6e9123c0a6f515fa034cdbc4ee420ea3130068fa.jpg)


    And unsolder switches should be a good idea? Never open a cherry

    So if I understand you correctly, you'd like to buy very cheap MX mount switches to build a prototype. Harvesting an old board isn't a bad idea at all. And old Cherry boards are easy to open up. You could also look into picking up Gateron or Greetech switches from say MechanicalKeyboards.com. AFAIK, the switches are cheap and they're new.

    Yes completely, thank for your answer. Getting switches and keycaps for around 25$ is great.

    I'm in France so buy switches from outside can be expansive with shipping cost. Will check @azhdar. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:30:57
    Can someone tell me if these will work as in switch LEDs?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003KWDVHY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3AGVPZHIH41EE
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:32:28
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:30:57
    Can someone tell me if these will work as in switch LEDs?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003KWDVHY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3AGVPZHIH41EE

    Sure. WFD use to use those in his videos. You may have to do a little sanding to get em to fit perfectly though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:33:03
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:32:28
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:30:57
    Can someone tell me if these will work as in switch LEDs?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003KWDVHY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3AGVPZHIH41EE

    Sure. WFD use to use those in his videos. You may have to do a little sanding to get em to fit perfectly though.

    Hmm. Is there a better size to look for that would fit better?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:34:27
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:33:03
    Hmm. Is there a better size to look for that would fit better?

    2x3x4mm. See the OP for more info (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_RR)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:54:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:34:27
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:33:03
    Hmm. Is there a better size to look for that would fit better?

    2x3x4mm. See the OP for more info (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_RR)

    Thanks Cpt, i found some 2x3x4 and ordered them instead. (Even if they were a bit more expensive)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: safian on Sun, 23 August 2015, 13:51:07
    What keyboard is that? http://imgur.com/a/7fJAl
    Hey guys, I have a MK for my main PC already, and I'm looking for a cheap keyboard for my second old PC that I have for experimenting with Linux distros and stuff. My dream is to have a Model M for that, but I don't have any spare money so I'm always checking local annoucments site hoping one will apear some day. I've found this keyboard and I have no idea what is it and if it's worth a buy? I guess it's probably not mechanical, but its ~8 bucks. Does anyone have idea what keyboard is it and if it's any good? http://imgur.com/a/7fJAl
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 23 August 2015, 21:35:06
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 August 2015, 21:51:24
    Quote from: safian on Sun, 23 August 2015, 13:51:07
    What keyboard is that? http://imgur.com/a/7fJAl
    Hey guys, I have a MK for my main PC already, and I'm looking for a cheap keyboard for my second old PC that I have for experimenting with Linux distros and stuff. My dream is to have a Model M for that, but I don't have any spare money so I'm always checking local annoucments site hoping one will apear some day. I've found this keyboard and I have no idea what is it and if it's worth a buy? I guess it's probably not mechanical, but its ~8 bucks. Does anyone have idea what keyboard is it and if it's any good? http://imgur.com/a/7fJAl

    Is it at all possible to get a better picture of the top and the back label? Maybe a picture of a cap pulled off. It's really hard to see what that is at all.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 23 August 2015, 21:35:06
    I can't seem to find a guide on programming a duck viper.  Can anyone help me?  Thanks a bunch, sorry I have to asks

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55427.msg1283624#msg1283624

    Does this work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 24 August 2015, 00:36:57
    Does SA R4 = upside down SA R3? I'm talking about blanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 24 August 2015, 01:25:29
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 24 August 2015, 00:36:57
    Does SA R4 = upside down SA R3? I'm talking about blanks.

    R4 probably means row 4, See this link for how the different rows stack against each other.  When a SA set is "uniform" they are all row 3, but profiled sets are all rows.

    http://www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 24 August 2015, 01:38:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 24 August 2015, 01:25:29
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 24 August 2015, 00:36:57
    Does SA R4 = upside down SA R3? I'm talking about blanks.

    R4 probably means row 4, See this link for how the different rows stack against each other.  When a SA set is "uniform" they are all row 3, but profiled sets are all rows.

    http://www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php

    Thanks for the link. Yeah I am talking about the Row 4 and Row 2. I was asking the question because I notice that Row 2 and Row 4 is somewhat like mirrored on some of the pictures posted online. But I can't confirm it since I don't have an SA.

    I am curious to know this because I plan to put a 1.25x R4 Mods as Tab on JD40 which requires a 1.25x.

    Edit: My original question is incorrect, it should be
    Does SA R4 = upside down SA R2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: safian on Mon, 24 August 2015, 07:20:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 23 August 2015, 21:51:24
    Is it at all possible to get a better picture of the top and the back label? Maybe a picture of a cap pulled off. It's really hard to see what that is at all.

    I didn't buy it yet, and these are the pictures I've got. I'll buy it day after tomorrow and update you on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 24 August 2015, 12:42:02
    Is there a way to convert a mini-DIN 5 to USB? Just got an Alps numpad that uses it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Mon, 24 August 2015, 23:27:03
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 24 August 2015, 01:38:23
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 24 August 2015, 01:25:29
    Quote from: jorgenslee on Mon, 24 August 2015, 00:36:57
    Does SA R4 = upside down SA R3? I'm talking about blanks.

    R4 probably means row 4, See this link for how the different rows stack against each other.  When a SA set is "uniform" they are all row 3, but profiled sets are all rows.

    http://www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php

    Thanks for the link. Yeah I am talking about the Row 4 and Row 2. I was asking the question because I notice that Row 2 and Row 4 is somewhat like mirrored on some of the pictures posted online. But I can't confirm it since I don't have an SA.

    I am curious to know this because I plan to put a 1.25x R4 Mods as Tab on JD40 which requires a 1.25x.

    Edit: My original question is incorrect, it should be
    Does SA R4 = upside down SA R2

    Pretty sure row 2 and row 4 are exact mirrors, yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:10:45
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Mon, 24 August 2015, 12:42:02
    Is there a way to convert a mini-DIN 5 to USB? Just got an Alps numpad that uses it.

    Just use an active converter like this one : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beige-USB-to-Dual-PS-2-Keyboard-Mouse-Converter-Cable-Active-Adapter-USB-2PS2-/270863821433?hash=item3f10bdea79

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:32:09
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:10:45

    Just use an active converter like this one : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beige-USB-to-Dual-PS-2-Keyboard-Mouse-Converter-Cable-Active-Adapter-USB-2PS2-/270863821433?hash=item3f10bdea79


    Seven dollars for a cheap-O? I would try this one first:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Male-to-PS2-Female-Cable-Adapter-Converter-Use-For-Keyboard-Mouse-VP-/221854896108?hash=item33a7950fec
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:38:40
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:32:09
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:10:45

    Just use an active converter like this one : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beige-USB-to-Dual-PS-2-Keyboard-Mouse-Converter-Cable-Active-Adapter-USB-2PS2-/270863821433?hash=item3f10bdea79



    Thanks guys but PS/2 is mini-DIN 6. :P I went ahead and tried one of my PS/2 converter anyways and to my surprise it fit (the last Panasonic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64208.5) I had with a 5 pin connector was different) but it doesn't work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:50:17
    So I have mentioned this in a couple threads but the switch tops on my ergo clears are coming off every time I change caps. I have a gon til I got with switches pre modded by gon and about 1/3 maybe 1/4 of the switches have this problem. I can hold the tops down with a small screw driver but it's a pain in the ass. I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem and if maybe the tabs just got weakened by removing the tops to many times during the luning,stickering and spring swap process.

    Does anyone know if replacing the switch tops will fix this? Sorry to post this in a couple of threads but the responses I have gotten is that the caps are too tight on the switch stem. This is very common on cherry clears however this is the first time this has happened to me even though I have a few other boards with clears and change the caps constantly with no problems.

    I hope there is some sort of solution besides re soldering in different switches !?

    Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated 8)

    Thanks all
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:54:54
    Quote from: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:50:17
    So I have mentioned this in a couple threads but the switch tops on my ergo clears are coming off every time I change caps. I have a gon til I got with switches pre modded by gon and about 1/3 maybe 1/4 of the switches have this problem. I can hold the tops down with a small screw driver but it's a pain in the ass. I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem and if maybe the tabs just got weakened by removing the tops to many times during the luning,stickering and spring swap process.

    Does anyone know if replacing the switch tops will fix this? Sorry to post this in a couple of threads but the responses I have gotten is that the caps are too tight on the switch stem. This is very common on cherry clears however this is the first time this has happened to me even though I have a few other boards with clears and change the caps constantly with no problems.

    I hope there is some sort of solution besides re soldering in different switches !?

    Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated 8)

    Thanks all

    There's a little nubbin or bump on the stem of Cherry MX Clears which seems to lead to this problem. I think some people have said they've solved it by wiggling the caps more and not pulling straight up on the caps as much. But it's definitely worth trying to swap in new tops. I'm not sure where to get new Cherry MX tops but the Gateron tops seem ok. I haven't really had the chance to play with mine too much though.

    I can't remember but do GON keyboards have the cutouts for switch top removal? If so you could swap the stems and tops for something else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 25 August 2015, 09:25:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:54:54
    Quote from: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:50:17
    So I have mentioned this in a couple threads but the switch tops on my ergo clears are coming off every time I change caps. I have a gon til I got with switches pre modded by gon and about 1/3 maybe 1/4 of the switches have this problem. I can hold the tops down with a small screw driver but it's a pain in the ass. I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem and if maybe the tabs just got weakened by removing the tops to many times during the luning,stickering and spring swap process.

    Does anyone know if replacing the switch tops will fix this? Sorry to post this in a couple of threads but the responses I have gotten is that the caps are too tight on the switch stem. This is very common on cherry clears however this is the first time this has happened to me even though I have a few other boards with clears and change the caps constantly with no problems.

    I hope there is some sort of solution besides re soldering in different switches !?

    Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated 8)

    Thanks all

    There's a little nubbin or bump on the stem of Cherry MX Clears which seems to lead to this problem. I think some people have said they've solved it by wiggling the caps more and not pulling straight up on the caps as much. But it's definitely worth trying to swap in new tops. I'm not sure where to get new Cherry MX tops but the Gateron tops seem ok. I haven't really had the chance to play with mine too much though.

    I can't remember but do GON keyboards have the cutouts for switch top removal? If so you could swap the stems and tops for something else.

    GON keyboards do not have the cutouts for switch top removal, because GON doesn't like that adding the cutouts increases the chances for pulling the tops off when swapping caps. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 August 2015, 09:27:41
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 25 August 2015, 09:25:37
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:54:54
    Quote from: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:50:17
    So I have mentioned this in a couple threads but the switch tops on my ergo clears are coming off every time I change caps. I have a gon til I got with switches pre modded by gon and about 1/3 maybe 1/4 of the switches have this problem. I can hold the tops down with a small screw driver but it's a pain in the ass. I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem and if maybe the tabs just got weakened by removing the tops to many times during the luning,stickering and spring swap process.

    Does anyone know if replacing the switch tops will fix this? Sorry to post this in a couple of threads but the responses I have gotten is that the caps are too tight on the switch stem. This is very common on cherry clears however this is the first time this has happened to me even though I have a few other boards with clears and change the caps constantly with no problems.

    I hope there is some sort of solution besides re soldering in different switches !?

    Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated 8)

    Thanks all

    There's a little nubbin or bump on the stem of Cherry MX Clears which seems to lead to this problem. I think some people have said they've solved it by wiggling the caps more and not pulling straight up on the caps as much. But it's definitely worth trying to swap in new tops. I'm not sure where to get new Cherry MX tops but the Gateron tops seem ok. I haven't really had the chance to play with mine too much though.

    I can't remember but do GON keyboards have the cutouts for switch top removal? If so you could swap the stems and tops for something else.


    GON keyboards do not have the cutouts for switch top removal, because GON doesn't like that adding the cutouts increases the chances for pulling the tops off when swapping caps.

    That's a bit ironic considering sed8op8's question :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 25 August 2015, 12:54:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 August 2015, 09:27:41
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 25 August 2015, 09:25:37
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:54:54
    Quote from: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:50:17
    So I have mentioned this in a couple threads but the switch tops on my ergo clears are coming off every time I change caps. I have a gon til I got with switches pre modded by gon and about 1/3 maybe 1/4 of the switches have this problem. I can hold the tops down with a small screw driver but it's a pain in the ass. I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem and if maybe the tabs just got weakened by removing the tops to many times during the luning,stickering and spring swap process.

    Does anyone know if replacing the switch tops will fix this? Sorry to post this in a couple of threads but the responses I have gotten is that the caps are too tight on the switch stem. This is very common on cherry clears however this is the first time this has happened to me even though I have a few other boards with clears and change the caps constantly with no problems.

    I hope there is some sort of solution besides re soldering in different switches !?

    Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated 8)

    Thanks all

    There's a little nubbin or bump on the stem of Cherry MX Clears which seems to lead to this problem. I think some people have said they've solved it by wiggling the caps more and not pulling straight up on the caps as much. But it's definitely worth trying to swap in new tops. I'm not sure where to get new Cherry MX tops but the Gateron tops seem ok. I haven't really had the chance to play with mine too much though.

    I can't remember but do GON keyboards have the cutouts for switch top removal? If so you could swap the stems and tops for something else.


    GON keyboards do not have the cutouts for switch top removal, because GON doesn't like that adding the cutouts increases the chances for pulling the tops off when swapping caps.

    That's a bit ironic considering sed8op8's question :))

    It is, and I almost made note of that when I typed it.  :))  But just think of how many more tops she would have lost if he had the cutouts!  :eek:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 25 August 2015, 16:07:17
    Quote from: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:50:17
    So I have mentioned this in a couple threads but the switch tops on my ergo clears are coming off every time I change caps. I have a gon til I got with switches pre modded by gon and about 1/3 maybe 1/4 of the switches have this problem. I can hold the tops down with a small screw driver but it's a pain in the ass. I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem and if maybe the tabs just got weakened by removing the tops to many times during the luning,stickering and spring swap process.

    Does anyone know if replacing the switch tops will fix this? Sorry to post this in a couple of threads but the responses I have gotten is that the caps are too tight on the switch stem. This is very common on cherry clears however this is the first time this has happened to me even though I have a few other boards with clears and change the caps constantly with no problems.

    I hope there is some sort of solution besides re soldering in different switches !?

    Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated 8)

    Thanks all

    Sounds like the repeated popping-off has worn the tops in a way that makes it even more likely to come off. I know the tabs are a bit prone to bending; a few of the switches I've modded have had their tabs irreversibly bent (but still able to be clipped together only just) without too much effort.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 18:06:44
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 25 August 2015, 16:07:17
    Quote from: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:50:17
    So I have mentioned this in a couple threads but the switch tops on my ergo clears are coming off every time I change caps. I have a gon til I got with switches pre modded by gon and about 1/3 maybe 1/4 of the switches have this problem. I can hold the tops down with a small screw driver but it's a pain in the ass. I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem and if maybe the tabs just got weakened by removing the tops to many times during the luning,stickering and spring swap process.

    Does anyone know if replacing the switch tops will fix this? Sorry to post this in a couple of threads but the responses I have gotten is that the caps are too tight on the switch stem. This is very common on cherry clears however this is the first time this has happened to me even though I have a few other boards with clears and change the caps constantly with no problems.

    I hope there is some sort of solution besides re soldering in different switches !?

    Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated 8)

    Thanks all

    Sounds like the repeated popping-off has worn the tops in a way that makes it even more likely to come off. I know the tabs are a bit prone to bending; a few of the switches I've modded have had their tabs irreversibly bent (but still able to be clipped together only just) without too much effort.
    Good thing I like Hyperfuse as its not coming off now unless I really need to change my caps haha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Heliobb on Wed, 26 August 2015, 03:35:42
    (http://img0.leboncoin.fr/images/6e9/6e9123c0a6f515fa034cdbc4ee420ea3130068fa.jpg)
    Is an mx3000 ? Mechanical switches ?

    Thanks  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Wed, 26 August 2015, 03:44:00
    Probably, although it could be G81-3000 too ("semi-mechanical" MY switches, incompatible stabs and off-center stems on 1.25x modifiers).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Heliobb on Wed, 26 August 2015, 04:07:35
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 26 August 2015, 03:44:00
    Probably, although it could be G81-3000 too ("semi-mechanical" MY switches, incompatible stabs and off-center stems on 1.25x modifiers).

    Ok thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: clacktalk on Wed, 26 August 2015, 04:39:45
    what's the best lube for cherry stabs? i have some thick lube from EK, but the stabs that I've come across that feel better than any of my work have had thicker, whiter lube.

    this is a very serious post. don't sex innuendo me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: meiosis on Wed, 26 August 2015, 04:43:00
    Quote from: clacktalk on Wed, 26 August 2015, 04:39:45
    what's the best lube for cherry stabs? i have some thick lube from EK, but the stabs that I've come across that feel better than any of my work have had thicker, whiter lube.

    this is a very serious post. don't sex innuendo me

    I prefer KY
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 05:40:42
    Quote from: Heliobb on Wed, 26 August 2015, 03:35:42
    Show Image
    (http://img0.leboncoin.fr/images/6e9/6e9123c0a6f515fa034cdbc4ee420ea3130068fa.jpg)

    Is an mx3000 ? Mechanical switches ?

    Thanks  :D

    If you can get a picture of the back label, that'd be the best way for us to give a definitive answer.

    Quote from: clacktalk on Wed, 26 August 2015, 04:39:45
    what's the best lube for cherry stabs? i have some thick lube from EK, but the stabs that I've come across that feel better than any of my work have had thicker, whiter lube.

    this is a very serious post. don't sex innuendo me
    I use the thick krytox grease. Mainly because I've got the really thick grease stuff and the thinner oil stuff. So I mix my own krytox blend but I can also use either or for other things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Heliobb on Wed, 26 August 2015, 07:01:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 05:40:42
    Quote from: Heliobb on Wed, 26 August 2015, 03:35:42
    Show Image
    (http://img0.leboncoin.fr/images/6e9/6e9123c0a6f515fa034cdbc4ee420ea3130068fa.jpg)

    Is an mx3000 ? Mechanical switches ?

    Thanks  :D

    If you can get a picture of the back label, that'd be the best way for us to give a definitive answer.

    I've bought it. I will let you know. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 26 August 2015, 07:35:30
    Quote from: clacktalk on Wed, 26 August 2015, 04:39:45

    what's the best lube for cherry stabs? i have some thick lube from EK, but the stabs that I've come across that feel better than any of my work have had thicker, whiter lube.


    I don't use Cherry switches, but I have used the thick lube from EK on many other wire tabs and I think that it works great.

    My syringe (some scant partial spoonful amount) is just now running out and I have had it for a couple of years and done at least a couple of dozen boards, but I only use a tiny amount on each. I love the thin curved nozzle and wish they all were like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: safian on Wed, 26 August 2015, 11:24:05
    So I finally got the keyboard I asked about before and I still don't know what model it is. I really like sound of that keyboard, do you recognize the switches?  I have new photos here: http://imgur.com/a/7fJAl
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 26 August 2015, 12:06:14
    Looks like a spring over membrane or rubber dome with Alps slider to me.  I could be wrong and it could be something like a TEC switch (http://deskthority.net/wiki/TEC_switch).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: itskuroi on Wed, 26 August 2015, 12:14:36
    So I was thinking about getting a 75% keyboard, but I have no clue how to solder or anything. My question is there a 75% keyboard that already has Gateron switches ? Or am I going to have to order a custom board  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Wed, 26 August 2015, 12:25:20
    Quote from: deleonhle on Wed, 26 August 2015, 12:14:36
    So I was thinking about getting a 75% keyboard, but I have no clue how to solder or anything. My question is there a 75% keyboard that already has Gateron switches ? Or am I going to have to order a custom board  :-[

    custom only.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 26 August 2015, 12:52:21
    So I had another mini-DIN-5 keyboard come in today and this is one of the true mini-DIN-5 that won't fit into a PS/2 socket. Anyone know how to convert it? It's a NeXT station keyboard with Black SKCM.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 26 August 2015, 15:22:35
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 26 August 2015, 12:52:21
    So I had another mini-DIN-5 keyboard come in today and this is one of the true mini-DIN-5 that won't fit into a PS/2 socket. Anyone know how to convert it? It's a NeXT station keyboard with Black SKCM.



    I thought that PS/2 was mini-DIN-6
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:20:20
    NeXT boards speak a strange protocol, I think almost all versions with alps are non-adb; TMK might have a converter that speaks NeXT but can't remember for certain.

    The non-alps versions of these boards speak standard ADB IIRC which TMK definitely has a converter for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 26 August 2015, 17:39:14
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 26 August 2015, 15:22:35
    I thought that PS/2 was mini-DIN-6

    Well there are two kinds, a 5 pin that is incompatible with PS/2 sockets and another that looks like PS/2 but with a missing pin 6.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 26 August 2015, 19:07:59
    In this scenario both 2 and 6 are not doing anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 26 August 2015, 19:55:25
    Hey guys. Preparing for my first SA set! Do SA 6.25u Spacebars have centered stems or are they offset like some Cherry boards? I'm guessing they are centered, but I can't be sure without feedback.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 26 August 2015, 20:41:55
    Do 3 unit keys ever come up on the SP key shop? There aren't any there now, but I was wondering if that ever changes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 22:17:56
    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 26 August 2015, 19:55:25
    Hey guys. Preparing for my first SA set! Do SA 6.25u Spacebars have centered stems or are they offset like some Cherry boards? I'm guessing they are centered, but I can't be sure without feedback.
    They're made by SP so they're centered.
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Wed, 26 August 2015, 20:41:55
    Do 3 unit keys ever come up on the SP key shop? There aren't any there now, but I was wondering if that ever changes.
    I've never even heard of a 3 unit key
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 26 August 2015, 22:52:12
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 26 August 2015, 19:07:59
    In this scenario both 2 and 6 are not doing anything.

    Appreciate the help but I have the kind that isn't even socket compatible.  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alf on Wed, 26 August 2015, 23:46:18
    I've got a problem with a Majestouch Ninja 2 Filco keyboard. Basically something is wrong with the Backspace key where I will be typing for anywhere from seconds to up to 5 minutes, and at some point when I hit the Backspace key, the whole keyboard just dies. The Blue lights flicker dimly, and I have to unplug the keyboard, wait for a seemingly random period of time before plugging it in again. It'll start working again, but then do the same thing a few minutes later. (it never works to just unplug it and plug it back in).

    I got the keyboard off Amazon and it worked when I first opened and used it. Then I put it away for a period of time and moved, then this started happening when I set it up in my office to use seriously. I tried contacting Filco themselves but they won't service it due to the Amazon seller I bought it from not being on their list of approved vendors or whatever, and it's long past the Amazon return by date (a special request message to the seller awaits a reply).

    Any idea what would be causing this or if it would be possible to have fixed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 26 August 2015, 23:59:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 22:17:56
    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 26 August 2015, 19:55:25
    Hey guys. Preparing for my first SA set! Do SA 6.25u Spacebars have centered stems or are they offset like some Cherry boards? I'm guessing they are centered, but I can't be sure without feedback.
    They're made by SP so they're centered.

    Thanks, that's what I figured. :thumb:

    As far as 3u space bars go, I've been seeing them featured in recent sets (ie, Carbon), but I'm not sure if they're usually available to buy alone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 27 August 2015, 00:44:40
    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 26 August 2015, 23:59:37
    As far as 3u space bars go, I've been seeing them featured in recent sets (ie, Carbon), but I'm not sure if they're usually available to buy alone.
    Yes, I should have been clearer, space keys is what I meant. Having seen them in a few buys recently, I was hoping they would be around somewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 27 August 2015, 06:16:38
    Quote from: alf on Wed, 26 August 2015, 23:46:18
    I've got a problem with a Majestouch Ninja 2 Filco keyboard. Basically something is wrong with the Backspace key where I will be typing for anywhere from seconds to up to 5 minutes, and at some point when I hit the Backspace key, the whole keyboard just dies. The Blue lights flicker dimly, and I have to unplug the keyboard, wait for a seemingly random period of time before plugging it in again. It'll start working again, but then do the same thing a few minutes later. (it never works to just unplug it and plug it back in).

    I got the keyboard off Amazon and it worked when I first opened and used it. Then I put it away for a period of time and moved, then this started happening when I set it up in my office to use seriously. I tried contacting Filco themselves but they won't service it due to the Amazon seller I bought it from not being on their list of approved vendors or whatever, and it's long past the Amazon return by date (a special request message to the seller awaits a reply).

    Any idea what would be causing this or if it would be possible to have fixed?

    I think the first course of action would be to open the board and take a look inside, around the Backspace key, and see if anything jumps out at you (having to wait for a random time sounds like waiting for a capacitor to discharge). Unfortunately a Filco is plate-mounted, so without desoldering all of the switches you'll only really be able to look at one side of the PCB (the side without the actual components unfortunately). If you're serious about investigating this further it might be pertinent to create a new thread, as it doesn't sound like a question with a "simple answer" to me.

    You might also try it on a different computer if you haven't already.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 August 2015, 07:04:00
    Quote from: alf on Wed, 26 August 2015, 23:46:18
    I've got a problem with a Majestouch Ninja 2 Filco keyboard.

    More
    Basically something is wrong with the Backspace key where I will be typing for anywhere from seconds to up to 5 minutes, and at some point when I hit the Backspace key, the whole keyboard just dies. The Blue lights flicker dimly, and I have to unplug the keyboard, wait for a seemingly random period of time before plugging it in again. It'll start working again, but then do the same thing a few minutes later. (it never works to just unplug it and plug it back in).

    I got the keyboard off Amazon and it worked when I first opened and used it. Then I put it away for a period of time and moved, then this started happening when I set it up in my office to use seriously. I tried contacting Filco themselves but they won't service it due to the Amazon seller I bought it from not being on their list of approved vendors or whatever, and it's long past the Amazon return by date (a special request message to the seller awaits a reply).


    Any idea what would be causing this or if it would be possible to have fixed?

    Like pr0ximity said, I would open the keyboard up and check it visually and with a multimeter to see if there are any cold or bad solder joints. If you can't find any major issues, I would suggest breaking out your own thread to get more targeted help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Thu, 27 August 2015, 10:03:57
    Any simple remedies for uneven height of the pads on the corners of a keyboard? Besides tossing in a folded piece of paper
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 27 August 2015, 10:07:46
    Sorry for the n00b question:  What's the cheapest MX TKL with an aluminum case and plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 27 August 2015, 10:08:29
    Quote from: apolotary on Thu, 27 August 2015, 10:03:57
    Any simple remedies for uneven height of the pads on the corners of a keyboard? Besides tossing in a folded piece of paper

    I usually just buy new pads.  The problem is usually the pads, not the board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 August 2015, 22:47:18
    Quote from: apolotary on Thu, 27 August 2015, 10:03:57
    Any simple remedies for uneven height of the pads on the corners of a keyboard? Besides tossing in a folded piece of paper
    What pads are you talking about? I'm not quite following.
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Thu, 27 August 2015, 10:07:46
    Sorry for the n00b question:  What's the cheapest MX TKL with an aluminum case and plate?
    Probably a phantom in a tex case or any stock board that fits in a tex case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sun, 30 August 2015, 04:55:17
    Hey, i received my HHKB yesterday, and the bottom case fits a bit loose, when you press around HHKB logo, you ll feel the case little bit cracking
    Does anyone meet any similar issue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 30 August 2015, 06:01:41
    Quote from: ajx on Sun, 30 August 2015, 04:55:17
    Hey, i received my HHKB yesterday, and the bottom case fits a bit loose, when you press around HHKB logo, you ll feel the case little bit cracking
    Does anyone meet any similar issue?

    Yes.

    RealForce keyboards (PFU) in general seem to have cases that are not clamped and superglued together, but held together with love and kindness.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Sun, 30 August 2015, 06:11:09
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Thu, 27 August 2015, 10:08:29
    Quote from: apolotary on Thu, 27 August 2015, 10:03:57
    Any simple remedies for uneven height of the pads on the corners of a keyboard? Besides tossing in a folded piece of paper

    I usually just buy new pads.  The problem is usually the pads, not the board.

    Yeah I figured I'll just get a pack of new ones too.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 27 August 2015, 22:47:18
    Quote from: apolotary on Thu, 27 August 2015, 10:03:57
    Any simple remedies for uneven height of the pads on the corners of a keyboard? Besides tossing in a folded piece of paper
    What pads are you talking about? I'm not quite following.

    The rubbery things they put on the bottom of the case so it won't slip around your desk. In my case I have a couple of them with uneven height which makes my keyboards a little unstable on the desk

    ---

    Another thing: I'm looking for online shops in Taiwan that ship to the neighboring countries (i.e. Japan). What's the best place on geekhack to ask about that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 August 2015, 11:05:25
    Quote from: apolotary on Sun, 30 August 2015, 06:11:09
    The rubbery things they put on the bottom of the case so it won't slip around your desk. In my case I have a couple of them with uneven height which makes my keyboards a little unstable on the desk

    Ah ok. I was thinking it was somewhere inside the board haha. I'd suggest what heedpantsnow said.

    Quote from: apolotary on Sun, 30 August 2015, 06:11:09
    Another thing: I'm looking for online shops in Taiwan that ship to the neighboring countries (i.e. Japan). What's the best place on geekhack to ask about that?

    Just make a thread in off-topic. You can also see if there's anyone in that area who will help you proxy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 30 August 2015, 12:28:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 August 2015, 11:05:25
    Quote from: apolotary on Sun, 30 August 2015, 06:11:09
    The rubbery things they put on the bottom of the case so it won't slip around your desk. In my case I have a couple of them with uneven height which makes my keyboards a little unstable on the desk

    Ah ok. I was thinking it was somewhere inside the board haha. I'd suggest what heedpantsnow said.


    That or give the case a twist from opposite ends.  I have had to do that after having one end of a keyboard that was propped up on a mouse pad.  The pads on the keyboard were not the same distance from the edge of the board, so after a year or so I developed a slight twist.  I changed up some of the setup on my desk and it brought the keyboard down to the desk all the way around.  Just took some twisting of the whole keyboard and it sat flat.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:56:54
    Would a Filco usb cable from Pexonpcs work with my cherry g80-1800?

    [attach=2]
    [attach=1]

    my guess is no but I just want it to be confirmed
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:58:42
    Quote from: mason on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:56:54
    Would a Filco usb cable from Pexonpcs work with my cherry g80-1800?

    (Attachment Link)
    (Attachment Link)

    my guess is no but I just want it to be confirmed

    From those pictures it looks like it might. Definitely worth a try.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sun, 30 August 2015, 16:14:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:58:42
    Quote from: mason on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:56:54
    Would a Filco usb cable from Pexonpcs work with my cherry g80-1800?

    (Attachment Link)
    (Attachment Link)

    my guess is no but I just want it to be confirmed

    From those pictures it looks like it might. Definitely worth a try.
    The pinout looks different to me. If the plug fits make sure wire order is correct. Otherwise you risk try and fry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alf on Sun, 30 August 2015, 16:52:34
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Thu, 27 August 2015, 06:16:38
    Quote from: alf on Wed, 26 August 2015, 23:46:18
    I've got a problem with a Majestouch Ninja 2 Filco keyboard. Basically something is wrong with the Backspace key where I will be typing for anywhere from seconds to up to 5 minutes, and at some point when I hit the Backspace key, the whole keyboard just dies. The Blue lights flicker dimly, and I have to unplug the keyboard, wait for a seemingly random period of time before plugging it in again. It'll start working again, but then do the same thing a few minutes later. (it never works to just unplug it and plug it back in).

    I got the keyboard off Amazon and it worked when I first opened and used it. Then I put it away for a period of time and moved, then this started happening when I set it up in my office to use seriously. I tried contacting Filco themselves but they won't service it due to the Amazon seller I bought it from not being on their list of approved vendors or whatever, and it's long past the Amazon return by date (a special request message to the seller awaits a reply).

    Any idea what would be causing this or if it would be possible to have fixed?

    I think the first course of action would be to open the board and take a look inside, around the Backspace key, and see if anything jumps out at you (having to wait for a random time sounds like waiting for a capacitor to discharge). Unfortunately a Filco is plate-mounted, so without desoldering all of the switches you'll only really be able to look at one side of the PCB (the side without the actual components unfortunately). If you're serious about investigating this further it might be pertinent to create a new thread, as it doesn't sound like a question with a "simple answer" to me.

    You might also try it on a different computer if you haven't already.

    Well, it appears that I have fixed the problem. Hallelujah! I got up my nerve and opened up the board finally and it seemed like the connector where the USB cable connects to the board was slightly ajar or loose. I jammed that sucker back in there firmly, and now it seems to be working perfectly (so far).

    Turned out to be fairly simple after all! Thanks for the advice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:19:16
    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 30 August 2015, 16:14:58

    The pinout looks different to me. If the plug fits make sure wire order is correct. Otherwise you risk try and fry.

    Yeah I noticed that after I uploaded it. Maybe I'll try asking for a custom order
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 108 on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:29:33
    Quick question, can someone explain to me the difference between plate mounted and PCB mounted switches and how it will effect the process of building a keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:38:33
    Quote from: 108 on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:29:33
    Quick question, can someone explain to me the difference between plate mounted and PCB mounted switches and how it will effect the process of building a keyboard?

    The only difference is pcb mount have two extra plastic pins that fit into holes of the pcb.  If the pcb allows it, try and use them when ever possible.  If you are not going to use a plate, PCB mount are required for them to be straight.  Also, the soldered pins don't really have enough strength to facilitate the stresses of being typed on for very long.  If you are hand wiring, it doesn't matter, though the pins might prove a pain.

    If you have PCB mount switches, and the PCB you are using doesn't have them, you can cut them off with flush cutters.  Just don't cut the large middle one.

    Also, Alps switches to my knowledge are never PCB mounted only, they have all had plates.  Though there might have been a few obscure ones that were PCB mounted only, but I haven't seen any examples.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sun, 30 August 2015, 18:41:38
    Quote from: mason on Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:19:16
    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 30 August 2015, 16:14:58

    The pinout looks different to me. If the plug fits make sure wire order is correct. Otherwise you risk try and fry.

    Yeah I noticed that after I uploaded it. Maybe I'll try asking for a custom order
    If the plug fits the socket you can rearrange wires. If you carefully release the pins from the plug and reset the wires to match what you need.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Sun, 30 August 2015, 19:10:00
    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 30 August 2015, 18:41:38

    If the plug fits the socket you can rearrange wires. If you carefully release the pins from the plug and reset the wires to match what you need.

    I didn't even think of that.. thanks  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Sun, 30 August 2015, 20:13:06
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 30 August 2015, 12:28:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 August 2015, 11:05:25
    Quote from: apolotary on Sun, 30 August 2015, 06:11:09
    The rubbery things they put on the bottom of the case so it won't slip around your desk. In my case I have a couple of them with uneven height which makes my keyboards a little unstable on the desk

    Ah ok. I was thinking it was somewhere inside the board haha. I'd suggest what heedpantsnow said.


    That or give the case a twist from opposite ends.  I have had to do that after having one end of a keyboard that was propped up on a mouse pad.  The pads on the keyboard were not the same distance from the edge of the board, so after a year or so I developed a slight twist.  I changed up some of the setup on my desk and it brought the keyboard down to the desk all the way around.  Just took some twisting of the whole keyboard and it sat flat.

    Thanks I actually haven't thought of that. Will be twisting my KBs all day today :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Mon, 31 August 2015, 03:07:39
    is there a difference, in quality perhaps, between US-made IBM Model Ms and UK-made IBM Model Ms? (pre-1990)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chyros on Mon, 31 August 2015, 03:10:17
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 31 August 2015, 03:07:39
    is there a difference, in quality perhaps, between US-made IBM Model Ms and UK-made IBM Model Ms? (pre-1990)
    I wouldn't think so, but Greenock did employ some alternate production specifications. For instance, on many Greenock models, the spacebar is grounded and made out of ABS rather than PBT (not all of them though).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 31 August 2015, 07:09:45
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 31 August 2015, 03:07:39
    is there a difference, in quality perhaps, between US-made IBM Model Ms and UK-made IBM Model Ms? (pre-1990)

    The only Greenocks that I have had were late-late-1990s and they were crap.

    It would be gratifying to know that quality was high in the early days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jcoffin1981 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 16:22:58
    Quote from: cypherzion751 on Wed, 10 December 2014, 19:43:28
    I want to pick up a poker II still though, I really want that "Enjoy Your Feeling" spacebar hahaha

    You know, I wonder if it didn't say something in the native language wherever the keyboard was designed, China or Thailand.  "Enjoy Your Feeling" may simply be the closest way to translate, but the essence was "lost in translation."

    I mean really, what the frack does that mean?  It makes no sense.  It's like when you look at an Ebay listing from an Asian seller and the sentences are hardly coherent.  You can just tell they used Google Translate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Mon, 31 August 2015, 18:05:11
    Hey, i got a special HHKB since few days  ;D
    This HHKB has Hasu's BT mod which allow you to make your own layoutd to learn it properly
    Layout is disturbing but i take time to get use it
    Give me your ideas about layout

    I would probably
    - turn shift into double tap shift (you dont have to hold shift while pressing x key)
    - switching tilde and delete
    - left_gui to another fn
    - fn+space turn into layout 2 with dedicated arrows (WASD)

    My questions, how you find original HHKB 's layout?
    I like the idea of CTRL instead of Capslock
    But i got confused alot with delete/tilde/return
    Moreover, fn+dedicated arrows doesnt work that good for a left handed like me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:22:50
    A friend of mine helped me in replacing broken capacitors on my Realforce board. Though the new ones have lower voltage and capacitance values, he told me it should be fine, as the signal would just get a bit more noisy than it used to be.

    Is there anything else I should be aware of? It would take me a couple more weeks to get all the parts so I can't fully test it right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 108 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:36:34
    How would one go about making the space bar tilted?
    Like in this picture
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:38:30
    Quote from: 108 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:36:34
    How would one go about making the space bar tilted?
    Like in this picture
    just turn it around, "flip" it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:38:54
    Quote from: 108 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:36:34
    How would one go about making the space bar tilted?
    Like in this picture

    Mount the keycaps on the board upside-down
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 108 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:57:01
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:38:54
    Quote from: 108 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:36:34
    How would one go about making the space bar tilted?
    Like in this picture

    Mount the keycaps on the board upside-down


    Thanks, that was way too obvious of answer  (https://media.giphy.com/media/HzTYLfsbJqa2Y/giphy.gif)
    One more random question regarding gateron switches. I've been looking at the clears for my build, but does anyone know how long they last?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:03:42
    Quote from: 108 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:57:01
    One more random question regarding gateron switches. I've been looking at the clears for my build, but does anyone know how long they last?

    I've never seen a datasheet so I'm not sure what the lifespan is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:15:47
    Quote from: 108 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:57:01
    One more random question regarding gateron switches. I've been looking at the clears for my build, but does anyone know how long they last?
    Somewhere in the area of Cherry's estimated lifespan, so a ridiculous number that I doubt anyone will hit anytime soon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Phirr on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:19:07
    Quote from: deleonhle on Wed, 26 August 2015, 12:14:36
    So I was thinking about getting a 75% keyboard, but I have no clue how to solder or anything. My question is there a 75% keyboard that already has Gateron switches ? Or am I going to have to order a custom board  :-[

    Mechanicalkeyboards.com has one coming out, if you can wait ~ a month

    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/incoming.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 September 2015, 12:23:45
    Quote from: ajx on Mon, 31 August 2015, 18:05:11
    Hey, i got a special HHKB since few days  ;D
    This HHKB has Hasu's BT mod which allow you to make your own layoutd to learn it properly
    Layout is disturbing but i take time to get use it
    Give me your ideas about layout

    I would probably
    - turn shift into double tap shift (you dont have to hold shift while pressing x key)
    - switching tilde and delete
    - left_gui to another fn
    - fn+space turn into layout 2 with dedicated arrows (WASD)

    My questions, how you find original HHKB 's layout?
    I like the idea of CTRL instead of Capslock
    But i got confused alot with delete/tilde/return
    Moreover, fn+dedicated arrows doesnt work that good for a left handed like me

    Discussion on this can be found in this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74940.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 108 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:32:30
    Do diodes come with the phantom PCB or do I need to purchase them separately? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:33:12
    Quote from: 108 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:32:30
    Do diodes come with the phantom PCB or do I need to purchase them separately?

    At this point, you'll have to purchase them separately. I think the only place to get it is from MK.com now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 108 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:46:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:33:12
    Quote from: 108 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:32:30
    Do diodes come with the phantom PCB or do I need to purchase them separately?

    At this point, you'll have to purchase them separately. I think the only place to get it is from MK.com now.
    It says on the page that I need to purchase 100 diodes, any recommended sites where I can get them?
    Another question, if I'm to use the phantom, I would need to purchase a plate and plate stabilizers. However If I went with a more planck-like style and used regular keys for the space,shift, enter,etc.. would there be enough spots on the PCB to do that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:54:37
    Quote from: 108 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:46:47
    It says on the page that I need to purchase 100 diodes, any recommended sites where I can get them?

    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fairchild-Semiconductor/1N4148/?qs=i4Fj9T%2FoRm8RMUhj5DeFQg%3D%3D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 108 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 22:05:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:54:37
    Quote from: 108 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:46:47
    It says on the page that I need to purchase 100 diodes, any recommended sites where I can get them?

    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fairchild-Semiconductor/1N4148/?qs=i4Fj9T%2FoRm8RMUhj5DeFQg%3D%3D
    Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 01 September 2015, 22:06:38
    Quote from: 108 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 22:05:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:54:37
    Quote from: 108 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:46:47
    It says on the page that I need to purchase 100 diodes, any recommended sites where I can get them?

    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fairchild-Semiconductor/1N4148/?qs=i4Fj9T%2FoRm8RMUhj5DeFQg%3D%3D
    Thank you!

    You can also check www.digikey.com as well.  I have had great luck with their site and find it a touch easier to navigate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Corey on Wed, 02 September 2015, 03:16:25
    Can someone identify this board? And whether it is worth purchasing?

    (http://i.imgur.com/RY6ZlmX.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 05:02:43
    Quote from: Corey on Wed, 02 September 2015, 03:16:25
    Can someone identify this board? And whether it is worth purchasing?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RY6ZlmX.png)

    Dell AT101. It's the ISO layout. Most likely with complicated Black Alps due to the logo. It was the keyboard that got me into Alps. I think it's a good board to pickup to try Alps or to use as a base to swap switches into. Looks like it's on good condition too. Don't pick it up thinking you're good to flip it for a lot of money though. It's not worth much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 02 September 2015, 07:02:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 05:02:43
    Dell AT101. It's the ISO layout. Most likely with complicated Black Alps due to the logo. It was the keyboard that got me into Alps. I think it's a good board to pickup to try Alps or to use as a base to swap switches into.

    Without Windows keys there is a possibility that it has the PBT caps, which are desirable on their own.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:39:22
    I recently saw a board with an ortholinear layout and it had a column or two of 1.5u keys right in the middle. It was not a split board. What board am I thinking of? I want one and it's killing me!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:44:25
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:39:22
    I recently saw a board with an ortholinear layout and it had a column or two of 1.5u keys right in the middle. It was not a split board. What board am I thinking of? I want one and it's killing me!

    I can't read minds and I'm not familiar with ortholinear stuff. Could it be an Atomic (http://ortholinearkeyboards.com/reference/pcb-layouts#atomic) with an alternate layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:46:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:44:25
    I can't read minds

    newb :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:49:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:44:25
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:39:22
    I recently saw a board with an ortholinear layout and it had a column or two of 1.5u keys right in the middle. It was not a split board. What board am I thinking of? I want one and it's killing me!

    I can't read minds and I'm not familiar with ortholinear stuff. Could it be an Atomic (http://ortholinearkeyboards.com/reference/pcb-layouts#atomic) with an alternate layout?

    Maybe. here's a rough sketch (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@=Esc&_x:0.75%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&_a:7&h:1.5%3B&=&_h:1.5%3B&=&_a:4%3B&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=Back%3Cbr%3ESpace%3B&@_w:1.25&w2:1.75%3B&=Tab&_x:0.5%3B&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&_x:2%3B&=H&=J&=K&=L&_w:1.75&w2:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_y:-0.5&x:6.75&a:7&h:1.5%3B&=&_h:1.5%3B&=%3B&@_y:-0.5&a:4&w:1.75%3B&=Shift&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&_x:2%3B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A.&_w:1.25&w2:2%3B&=Shift&_x:0.75%3B&=Fn%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Hyper&=Super&=Meta&_a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_a:4&w:1.25%3B&=Meta&_w:1.25%3B&=Super&_x:0.5%3B&=Fn&_x:0.25%3B&=Fn) (just focus on the middle)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 02 September 2015, 17:36:57
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:49:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:44:25
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:39:22
    I recently saw a board with an ortholinear layout and it had a column or two of 1.5u keys right in the middle. It was not a split board. What board am I thinking of? I want one and it's killing me!

    I can't read minds and I'm not familiar with ortholinear stuff. Could it be an Atomic (http://ortholinearkeyboards.com/reference/pcb-layouts#atomic) with an alternate layout?

    Maybe. here's a rough sketch (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@=Esc&_x:0.75%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&_a:7&h:1.5%3B&=&_h:1.5%3B&=&_a:4%3B&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=Back%3Cbr%3ESpace%3B&@_w:1.25&w2:1.75%3B&=Tab&_x:0.5%3B&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&_x:2%3B&=H&=J&=K&=L&_w:1.75&w2:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_y:-0.5&x:6.75&a:7&h:1.5%3B&=&_h:1.5%3B&=%3B&@_y:-0.5&a:4&w:1.75%3B&=Shift&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&_x:2%3B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A.&_w:1.25&w2:2%3B&=Shift&_x:0.75%3B&=Fn%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Hyper&=Super&=Meta&_a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_a:4&w:1.25%3B&=Meta&_w:1.25%3B&=Super&_x:0.5%3B&=Fn&_x:0.25%3B&=Fn) (just focus on the middle)

    I recognize it and I have no clue what it's called but I think it's a one off so it's probably in the making stuff together sub forum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 02 September 2015, 20:53:13
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 02 September 2015, 17:36:57
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:49:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:44:25
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:39:22
    I recently saw a board with an ortholinear layout and it had a column or two of 1.5u keys right in the middle. It was not a split board. What board am I thinking of? I want one and it's killing me!

    I can't read minds and I'm not familiar with ortholinear stuff. Could it be an Atomic (http://ortholinearkeyboards.com/reference/pcb-layouts#atomic) with an alternate layout?

    Maybe. here's a rough sketch (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@=Esc&_x:0.75%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&_a:7&h:1.5%3B&=&_h:1.5%3B&=&_a:4%3B&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=Back%3Cbr%3ESpace%3B&@_w:1.25&w2:1.75%3B&=Tab&_x:0.5%3B&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&_x:2%3B&=H&=J&=K&=L&_w:1.75&w2:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@_y:-0.5&x:6.75&a:7&h:1.5%3B&=&_h:1.5%3B&=%3B&@_y:-0.5&a:4&w:1.75%3B&=Shift&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&_x:2%3B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A.&_w:1.25&w2:2%3B&=Shift&_x:0.75%3B&=Fn%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Hyper&=Super&=Meta&_a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_a:4&w:1.25%3B&=Meta&_w:1.25%3B&=Super&_x:0.5%3B&=Fn&_x:0.25%3B&=Fn) (just focus on the middle)

    I recognize it and I have no clue what it's called but I think it's a one off so it's probably in the making stuff together sub forum.

    That is a really interesting layout, I might have to do some playing with that as a base.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Thu, 03 September 2015, 09:47:34
    Can anyone post a photo of SA row 3 caps sitting on a row 1 with Cherry/OEM profile caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 03 September 2015, 22:32:57
    What's the best way to get a hold of some blue alps these days?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 03 September 2015, 23:04:03
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 03 September 2015, 22:32:57
    What's the best way to get a hold of some blue alps these days?

    Pretty sure either ebay, or get lucky finding someone selling some in the classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 04 September 2015, 08:22:47
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 03 September 2015, 23:04:03
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 03 September 2015, 22:32:57
    What's the best way to get a hold of some blue alps these days?

    Pretty sure either ebay, or get lucky finding someone selling some in the classifieds.

    Ebay seems pretty dried up unless you want to shell out for a Northgate OmniKey. Maybe I'm just not searching for the right things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 September 2015, 11:51:12
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 04 September 2015, 08:22:47
    Ebay seems pretty dried up unless you want to shell out for a Northgate OmniKey. Maybe I'm just not searching for the right things.

    When I decided to acquire blue Alps switches, it was about 3 years ago and there was nothing on ebay then, either.

    I started watching for various donor keyboards, and it took me a year and a half to get one.

    Then when I finally bought it, the seller reneged and I never got it.

    Shortly afterwards, they started turning up a lot more frequently and with prices at the ~$100 level, the are sure to come around again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 06 September 2015, 17:36:16
    Who here could I pay for PCB repair? I'm trying to swap out switches but this KBP V60 is so cheap that I keep pulling up pads and traces.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Mon, 07 September 2015, 02:33:55
    any one with a duck eagle notice when they type the number row leds slowly get dimmer and dimmer? Or know how to turn that off?



    EDIT: I answered my own question. Its the LED Func settings!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Mon, 07 September 2015, 10:42:47
    Does anyone know what aluminum alloy the top case of the LZ-GH is? Thinking about reanodizing it :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tintoret on Mon, 07 September 2015, 16:17:58
    Stuffed my v60 with drawer liner from and ACE and am loving it. Keystrokes feel more stable and there is definitely less ping. Because the V60 case has a ton of empty space (and I had the time to cut it) I ended up stuffing it full. Everything screwed in fine, but I figured I should ask for peace of mind--is there any risk that I'm not thinking of to using too much liner?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Mon, 07 September 2015, 16:28:28
    Quote from: tintoret on Mon, 07 September 2015, 16:17:58
    Stuffed my v60 with drawer liner from and ACE and am loving it. Keystrokes feel more stable and there is definitely less ping. Because the V60 case has a ton of empty space (and I had the time to cut it) I ended up stuffing it full. Everything screwed in fine, but I figured I should ask for peace of mind--is there any risk that I'm not thinking of to using too much liner?
    Do you mean stuffing drawer liner between the PCB and the bottom of case? I don't get why that makes keystroke more stable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tintoret on Mon, 07 September 2015, 16:32:35
    Quote from: ctm on Mon, 07 September 2015, 16:28:28
    Quote from: tintoret on Mon, 07 September 2015, 16:17:58
    Stuffed my v60 with drawer liner from and ACE and am loving it. Keystrokes feel more stable and there is definitely less ping. Because the V60 case has a ton of empty space (and I had the time to cut it) I ended up stuffing it full. Everything screwed in fine, but I figured I should ask for peace of mind--is there any risk that I'm not thinking of to using too much liner?
    Do you mean stuffing drawer liner between the PCB and the bottom of case? I don't get why that makes keystroke more stable.

    Yeah, between the PCB and the case. No idea, might just my imagination prompted by the change in sound.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 07 September 2015, 17:31:02
    Laying shelf liner down in flat sheets can be good. After the flat areas are piled as deep as they can reasonably be, there are numerous odd cavities.

    I prefer to fill the cavities by cutting the pad into strips and rolling the strips into cylinders. You can fill any space by varying the length and width of the strip to produce the cylinder that you need.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 07 September 2015, 17:42:57
    Quote from: tintoret on Mon, 07 September 2015, 16:17:58
    Stuffed my v60 with drawer liner from and ACE and am loving it. Keystrokes feel more stable and there is definitely less ping. Because the V60 case has a ton of empty space (and I had the time to cut it) I ended up stuffing it full. Everything screwed in fine, but I figured I should ask for peace of mind--is there any risk that I'm not thinking of to using too much liner?

    I mean, there's probably always a limit to how much you can put in there... you shouldn't need to stand on your keyboard to get the pieces of the case to fit back together. But as long as the pressure is relatively even across the bottom of the PCB I can't see it hurting much. You'd probably know if you have too much in there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 08 September 2015, 03:41:29
    Okay so i dont know if a topic is around to ask what is this keyboard but anyway :

    Come by this yesterday :

    (https://i.imgur.com/FG7jPBj.jpg)

    ON his back :


    MF2 LG FRA
    S26381-K252-V140
    5V DC 50 Ma

    HOS 02

    ID-NR
    G4.F7

    Made in Germany

    On the right certification logo with

    NRTL/C
    LR92675

    CE

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 08 September 2015, 18:42:04
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 08 September 2015, 03:41:29
    Okay so i dont know if a topic is around to ask what is this keyboard but anyway :

    Come by this yesterday :

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/FG7jPBj.jpg)


    ON his back :


    MF2 LG FRA
    S26381-K252-V140
    5V DC 50 Ma

    HOS 02

    ID-NR
    G4.F7

    Made in Germany

    On the right certification logo with

    NRTL/C
    LR92675

    CE
    those aren't MX nixxies
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:12:27
    So I am thinking of ordering a set of blank caps for my xtant project.  A couple of questions have risen.

    With swapping which barrel the stabilizer insert is in, the Enter key be swapped with left shift?  The reason I ask is because the don't have the left ANSI shift listed in the color I want.  Every other key is available in that color, could just be a typo on the site though.  I will email them and ask about the missing color on Left ANSI shift.  If they don't, said question applies.  If it will physically work, is there even a pad under the other barrel to support this?


    Also, ISO left shift is a 1.25, correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:38:06
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:12:27
    So I am thinking of ordering a set of blank caps for my xtant project.  A couple of questions have risen.

    With swapping which barrel the stabilizer insert is in, the Enter key be swapped with left shift?  The reason I ask is because the don't have the left ANSI shift listed in the color I want.  Every other key is available in that color, could just be a typo on the site though.  I will email them and ask about the missing color on Left ANSI shift.  If they don't, said question applies.  If it will physically work, is there even a pad under the other barrel to support this?


    Also, ISO left shift is a 1.25, correct?

    I don't know that understand the language for your first question -- it's probably just that I'm tired. On my M, the spacing does appear to be slightly different between the two stems on the ANSI left shift and ANSI enter. I cannot mount my ANSI enter upside-down in the left shift position, the key sticks when I attempt to do so.

    You are correct about the size of the ISO left shift. The ANSI shift (2.25u) is split into the 1u extra key, and the 1.25u shift.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:52:00
    Quote from: user 18 on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:38:06
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:12:27
    So I am thinking of ordering a set of blank caps for my xtant project.  A couple of questions have risen.

    With swapping which barrel the stabilizer insert is in, the Enter key be swapped with left shift?  The reason I ask is because the don't have the left ANSI shift listed in the color I want.  Every other key is available in that color, could just be a typo on the site though.  I will email them and ask about the missing color on Left ANSI shift.  If they don't, said question applies.  If it will physically work, is there even a pad under the other barrel to support this?


    Also, ISO left shift is a 1.25, correct?

    I don't know that understand the language for your first question -- it's probably just that I'm tired. On my M, the spacing does appear to be slightly different between the two stems on the ANSI left shift and ANSI enter. I cannot mount my ANSI enter upside-down in the left shift position, the key sticks when I attempt to do so.

    You are correct about the size of the ISO left shift. The ANSI shift (2.25u) is split into the 1u extra key, and the 1.25u shift.

    I believe you are thinking correctly.  The plan (if ANSI Left shift is not available in black) was to use an ANSI Enter key and just put the insert into the other barrel.  If this won't work, I will just suck it up and get one more ISO left shift and one more single unit key and do something with it.  Hopefully though, my ticket proves it was just an oversight on the web page.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inanis on Wed, 09 September 2015, 10:32:54
    Can someone tell me what degree angle the HHKB sits at without the feet extended?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 09 September 2015, 12:31:03
    Ignore my question.  Unicomp got back to me.  The missing color on the site for ANSI left shift was an oversight and already fixed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 09 September 2015, 14:25:25
    Cause for a single flickering LED in keyboard? Gonna try replacing LED + double check resistor, but it's weird. It's not a constant flicker, just once in a while, kinda like in horror movies lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Wed, 09 September 2015, 14:31:49
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 09 September 2015, 14:25:25
    Cause for a single flickering LED in keyboard? Gonna try replacing LED + double check resistor, but it's weird. It's not a constant flicker, just once in a while, kinda like in horror movies lol

    I had a flickering LED on one of my older customs, replaced the led and was good to go. If not, then the resistor like you said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:50:19
    Quote from: inanis on Wed, 09 September 2015, 10:32:54
    Can someone tell me what degree angle the HHKB sits at without the feet extended?

    How can I measure the degree?
    I don't have no special tool and don't know method to measure, but I have HHKB and some time today :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inanis on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:59:12
    Quote from: hasu on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:50:19
    Quote from: inanis on Wed, 09 September 2015, 10:32:54
    Can someone tell me what degree angle the HHKB sits at without the feet extended?

    How can I measure the degree?
    I don't have no special tool and don't know method to measure, but I have HHKB and some time today :D

    Thank you! If you can tell met the height back corner (above the `~ key) and then the front (where the HHKB logo is) along with the length of that side of the case I can figure it out from there. Thank you so much! I've looked everywhere for this and can't find it. Perhaps my Google-fu is on the fritz. Maybe it is a reason to pick up a HHKB....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 09 September 2015, 19:13:35
    Quote from: hasu on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:50:19
    Quote from: inanis on Wed, 09 September 2015, 10:32:54
    Can someone tell me what degree angle the HHKB sits at without the feet extended?

    How can I measure the degree?
    I don't have no special tool and don't know method to measure, but I have HHKB and some time today :D

    You can use a ruler and right angle trig.  You would need to measure from the top back corner down the top face to the point where it meets the desk, this will be 'h'.  From that point on the top corner of the keyboard measure straight down to the desk, it is important that you have a right angle here to the desk, NOT down the back edge.  This will be 'I'

    From here we use the following equation.  Using x as the angle.

    Sin (x)=o/h
    X =(o/h)sin^-1

    Essentially the sin of the angle equals o/h so find that number and then the inverse sin of that numbe is the angle.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Wed, 09 September 2015, 19:30:31
    Quote from: inanis on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:59:12
    Quote from: hasu on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:50:19
    Quote from: inanis on Wed, 09 September 2015, 10:32:54
    Can someone tell me what degree angle the HHKB sits at without the feet extended?

    How can I measure the degree?
    I don't have no special tool and don't know method to measure, but I have HHKB and some time today :D

    Thank you! If you can tell met the height back corner (above the `~ key) and then the front (where the HHKB logo is) along with the length of that side of the case I can figure it out from there. Thank you so much! I've looked everywhere for this and can't find it. Perhaps my Google-fu is on the fritz. Maybe it is a reason to pick up a HHKB....

    hmm, my capliper job is fishy but..
    height on back: 32.6mm
    height on front: 19.1mm
    length of side: 103.5mm(horizontal distance between two points above)


    EDIT:
    tan(x) = (32.6-19.1)/103.5 = 0.13043
    tan-1(0.13043) = 7.431deg
    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=arctan%28%2832.6-19.1%29%2F103.5%29

    correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 09 September 2015, 19:42:59
    Quote from: hasu on Wed, 09 September 2015, 19:30:31
    Quote from: inanis on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:59:12
    Quote from: hasu on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:50:19
    Quote from: inanis on Wed, 09 September 2015, 10:32:54
    Can someone tell me what degree angle the HHKB sits at without the feet extended?

    How can I measure the degree?
    I don't have no special tool and don't know method to measure, but I have HHKB and some time today :D

    Thank you! If you can tell met the height back corner (above the `~ key) and then the front (where the HHKB logo is) along with the length of that side of the case I can figure it out from there. Thank you so much! I've looked everywhere for this and can't find it. Perhaps my Google-fu is on the fritz. Maybe it is a reason to pick up a HHKB....

    hmm, my capliper job is fishy but..
    height on back: 32.6mm
    height on front: 19.1mm
    length of side: 103.5mm(horizontal distance between two points above)

    Sorry had a brain fart.  Here is the correct method.

    [attach=1]

    EDIT:  I was right the first time.  Use the same letters, but use sin instead of tan.  What I labeled A should have been H.  Sorry, its been a long day, and weekend.  Last weekend was 12 hour shifts on nights, then starting yesterday, it is 10 hour days with an hour and a half drive each way.

    It is just simple right angle trig though.

    Sin x = O/H
    Cos x = A/H
    Tan x =O/A

    O is opposite
    A is adjacent
    H is hypotenuse
    and x is the angle.

    Opposite is the side at opposite the angle, adjacent is one side that forms the angle, and hypotenuse is the longest side of the right triangle.

    Plug in any two and use algebra to find the other.

    Funny plug from my millwright training, you can use weights instead of lengths when figuring sling stresses during rigging with multiple legs.  For example, you have two legs with 10 foot slings, they are 7 feet apart, if you know the weight of the part you are picking up, you can calculate the exact weight on each sling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:27:58
    To measure opposite side was bit difficult.
    EDIT: With Steel square it is easy.

    In HHKB Pro2:
    Hypotenuse = 252
    Opposite = 32.6
    sin(x) = 32.6/252
    arcsin(32.6/252) = 7.433deg
    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=arcsin%2832.6%2F252%29


    In Poker X:
    H = 280
    O = 29
    arcsin(29/280) = 5.945deg
    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=arcsin%2829%2F280%29

    Correct?
    Hmm, these values are less than what I expected. I though they are around 10deg.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:35:42
    I replaced the LED and it seems to be fine for now. Damn China QC T_T
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:38:43
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:35:42
    I replaced the LED and it seems to be fine for now. Damn China QC T_T

    Cool, JD told me about another brand from eBay, ICTouch or something, they're better quality..

    TP4 probably owns the factory you got your leds from.. ;D

    http://stores.ebay.com/IC-Touch-Store/LEDs-/_i.html?_fsub=2767254013&_sid=1028435323&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 (http://stores.ebay.com/IC-Touch-Store/LEDs-/_i.html?_fsub=2767254013&_sid=1028435323&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:57:35
    Quote from: hasu on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:27:58
    To measure opposite side was bit difficult.
    EDIT: With Steel square it is easy.

    In HHKB Pro2:
    Hypotenuse = 252
    Opposite = 32.6
    sin(x) = 32.6/252
    arcsin(32.6/252) = 7.433deg
    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=arcsin%2832.6%2F252%29


    In Poker X:
    H = 280
    O = 29
    arcsin(29/280) = 5.945deg
    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=arcsin%2829%2F280%29

    Correct?
    Hmm, these values are less than what I expected. I though they are around 10deg.

    Looks right to me
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:58:45
    Quote from: digi on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:38:43
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:35:42
    I replaced the LED and it seems to be fine for now. Damn China QC T_T

    Cool, JD told me about another brand from eBay, ICTouch or something, they're better quality..

    TP4 probably owns the factory you got your leds from.. ;D

    http://stores.ebay.com/IC-Touch-Store/LEDs-/_i.html?_fsub=2767254013&_sid=1028435323&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 (http://stores.ebay.com/IC-Touch-Store/LEDs-/_i.html?_fsub=2767254013&_sid=1028435323&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322)

    they don't seem to have sky blue :(

    I got mine from aliexpress.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 09 September 2015, 21:12:24
    So what metal cases are compatible with the KB Paradise V60 Matias?  I just got mine today and I'm liking it.  I'm thinking that I be liking it more if I had a metal case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 09 September 2015, 23:57:03
    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Wed, 09 September 2015, 21:12:24
    So what metal cases are compatible with the KB Paradise V60 Matias?  I just got mine today and I'm liking it.  I'm thinking that I be liking it more if I had a metal case.

    Hope you don't ever plan to switch swap, mine is a nightmare... Anywho, from what I've seen the Poker cases are all compatible with the V60 but the DIP switches are slightly covered by the metal cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:22:30
    Printing my own label/legends for Relegendable caps, cherry beige. How should I do it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:46:49
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:22:30
    Printing my own label/legends for Relegendable caps, cherry beige. How should I do it?

    You could try something like this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.msg1535780#msg1535780

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:54:31
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:46:49
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:22:30
    Printing my own label/legends for Relegendable caps, cherry beige. How should I do it?

    You could try something like this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.msg1535780#msg1535780



    Thanks for it, it's rather interesting, I seem to remind reading about the fibt used for Cherry was rather generic like Arial or something, would someone know?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:22:13
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:54:31
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:46:49
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:22:30
    Printing my own label/legends for Relegendable caps, cherry beige. How should I do it?

    You could try something like this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.msg1535780#msg1535780



    Thanks for it, it's rather interesting, I seem to remind reading about the fibt used for Cherry was rather generic like Arial or something, would someone know?
    Closest is Gotham Rounded font family, I have them all if you need it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:50:18
    What happened to GH?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:51:17
    Quote from: Karura on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:50:18
    What happened to GH?
    did GH happen, or was it u that happened?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 10 September 2015, 22:21:56
    are there red GMK spacebars? I don't think I've seen one... would like one though TT
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 11 September 2015, 01:05:27
    Quote from: Sifo on Thu, 10 September 2015, 22:21:56
    are there red GMK spacebars? I don't think I've seen one... would like one though TT

    Not that I know of.

    At least on Geekhack there has never been a GMK GB with red spacepars.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 11 September 2015, 05:55:14
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 09 September 2015, 23:57:03
    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Wed, 09 September 2015, 21:12:24
    So what metal cases are compatible with the KB Paradise V60 Matias?  I just got mine today and I'm liking it.  I'm thinking that I be liking it more if I had a metal case.

    Hope you don't ever plan to switch swap, mine is a nightmare... Anywho, from what I've seen the Poker cases are all compatible with the V60 but the DIP switches are slightly covered by the metal cases.

    Nope, I'm perfect happy with my Matias Quiet switches and will not swap them.  I can change the case without swapping, right?  I haven't quite taken it apart yet.

    Thanks.  I can manage with the covered DIP switches, as I already have them set at the configuration that I prefer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 06:02:07
    Yeah the case is swappable. Two of the screws are under the feet though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 11 September 2015, 06:10:30
    Why do Topre fans tend to use universal 55g boards? I like the idea of lighter mods - pinkies are thin and weak.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 September 2015, 07:02:51
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 11 September 2015, 06:10:30
    Why do Topre fans tend to use universal 55g boards? I like the idea of lighter mods - pinkies are thin and weak.
    There are plenty of us who enjoy variable weighted boards.

    55g just gets hyped a lot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Fri, 11 September 2015, 08:54:39
    A friend of mine got a little too angry during a Dota game and smashed his keyboard with his fist. His O key stopped working. Changing the switch will probably fix it right? He doesn't want to desolder/solder anything, where is a cheap place in the UK that will do the change?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 11 September 2015, 12:06:21
    Quote from: cannonking on Fri, 11 September 2015, 08:54:39
    A friend of mine got a little too angry during a Dota game and smashed his keyboard with his fist. His O key stopped working. Changing the switch will probably fix it right? He doesn't want to desolder/solder anything, where is a cheap place in the UK that will do the change?
    Doubtful, but it's really easy. Just ask on Facebook if any of your friends know how to solder. Or rather, have him do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:27:43
    Is there a way to unsubscribe from threads on here?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cannonking on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:40:57
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 11 September 2015, 12:06:21
    Quote from: cannonking on Fri, 11 September 2015, 08:54:39
    A friend of mine got a little too angry during a Dota game and smashed his keyboard with his fist. His O key stopped working. Changing the switch will probably fix it right? He doesn't want to desolder/solder anything, where is a cheap place in the UK that will do the change?
    Doubtful, but it's really easy. Just ask on Facebook if any of your friends know how to solder. Or rather, have him do it.
    By doubtful do you mean changing the switch probably won't fix it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:41:54
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:27:43
    Is there a way to unsubscribe from threads on here?

    You mean threads you have subscribed to so you get notifications? You can do that in Profile -> Notifications

    Also threads have an 'unwatch' button not sure what exactly that does.

    If you mean show new replies to your posts you can't change that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: saturnotaku on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:59:29
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 11 September 2015, 06:10:30
    Why do Topre fans tend to use universal 55g boards? I like the idea of lighter mods - pinkies are thin and weak.

    I was a uniform 45g die-hard until about a week ago. The siren song of 55g was too hard to resist. I find that I type faster and more accurately on 55g, but I don't like playing games with it as much because the stronger tactile feel causes me to get tripped up in faster-paced titles. But since I'm using my 55g Realforce at work where no games will be played, this isn't a big deal. As an added bonus, the 55g Realforce seems quieter than other standard Topre I've used. I had thought about opening it up to install some silencing rings, but I'm not finding it necessary.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 11 September 2015, 20:52:28
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:41:54
    If you mean show new replies to your posts you can't change that.

    I really wish there was a way to change/edit it.  I use this all the time, and every time I post in a new thread the list of topics gets longer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 11 September 2015, 21:10:45
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:54:31
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:46:49
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:22:30
    Printing my own label/legends for Relegendable caps, cherry beige. How should I do it?

    You could try something like this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.msg1535780#msg1535780



    Thanks for it, it's rather interesting, I seem to remind reading about the fibt used for Cherry was rather generic like Arial or something, would someone know?
    Hashbaz has SVG files of all the cherry legends that were used to make the SP Cherry replica set. It's not a font per sé, but with Inkscape and some patience you should be able to do whatever you're trying to do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 22:24:45
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 11 September 2015, 20:52:28
    I really wish there was a way to change/edit it.  I use this all the time, and every time I post in a new thread the list of topics gets longer.

    Yep and many of those threads I don't look at all the time. There are just a few that I like to follow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 12 September 2015, 12:57:44
    Quote from: cannonking on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:40:57
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 11 September 2015, 12:06:21
    Quote from: cannonking on Fri, 11 September 2015, 08:54:39
    A friend of mine got a little too angry during a Dota game and smashed his keyboard with his fist. His O key stopped working. Changing the switch will probably fix it right? He doesn't want to desolder/solder anything, where is a cheap place in the UK that will do the change?
    Doubtful, but it's really easy. Just ask on Facebook if any of your friends know how to solder. Or rather, have him do it.
    By doubtful do you mean changing the switch probably won't fix it?
    No, doubtful that someone will so it cheaply unless it's as a favor. It will totally work,  unless the soldering is done extremely poorly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jd29 on Sun, 13 September 2015, 04:40:15
    Is it just me or are Alps SKCM white really sensitive to age/wear? Both boards I'be tried are super inconsistent switch to switch, and one's unusable because the switches are so frictiony.

    And are all Alps like that, including blue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 13 September 2015, 05:29:57
    Every switch is subject to age and condition. Blues are very consistent and whites generally are in my experience as well. Blues are much smoother overall though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 13 September 2015, 06:24:43
    Quote from: cannonking on Fri, 11 September 2015, 08:54:39
    A friend of mine got a little too angry during a Dota game and smashed his keyboard with his fist. His O key stopped working. Changing the switch will probably fix it right? He doesn't want to desolder/solder anything, where is a cheap place in the UK that will do the change?

    I'll have a look if you cover postage both ways.  If he's broken the soldering it's fixable, if he's somehow bent the leaf it's swappable and if he's broken the stem that's also swappable, but I only have brown, blue and linear (red/black are the same just different springs) so hopefully it's one of those.  PM me if you're interested :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 13 September 2015, 11:44:13
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 06 September 2015, 17:36:16
    Who here could I pay for PCB repair? I'm trying to swap out switches but this KBP V60 is so cheap that I keep pulling up pads and traces.

    LastPilot is the first name that comes to mind

    Quote from: Signature on Mon, 07 September 2015, 10:42:47
    Does anyone know what aluminum alloy the top case of the LZ-GH is? Thinking about reanodizing it :)

    AL6061-T6 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49632.msg1074857#msg1074857)

    Quote from: tintoret on Mon, 07 September 2015, 16:17:58
    Stuffed my v60 with drawer liner from and ACE and am loving it. Keystrokes feel more stable and there is definitely less ping. Because the V60 case has a ton of empty space (and I had the time to cut it) I ended up stuffing it full. Everything screwed in fine, but I figured I should ask for peace of mind--is there any risk that I'm not thinking of to using too much liner?

    Something a bit obvious but you could stuff enough drawer liner in the case where it wouldn't close right.

    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 08 September 2015, 03:41:29
    Okay so i dont know if a topic is around to ask what is this keyboard but anyway :

    Come by this yesterday :

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/FG7jPBj.jpg)


    ON his back :


    MF2 LG FRA
    S26381-K252-V140
    5V DC 50 Ma

    HOS 02

    ID-NR
    G4.F7

    Made in Germany

    On the right certification logo with

    NRTL/C
    LR92675

    CE



    It's a Nixdorf model number S26381-K252-V140. Doesn't look like it's MX though.

    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Wed, 09 September 2015, 21:12:24
    So what metal cases are compatible with the KB Paradise V60 Matias?  I just got mine today and I'm liking it.  I'm thinking that I be liking it more if I had a metal case.

    This thread has some discussion on the case that may be interesting to you (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74956.0).

    Quote from: Sifo on Thu, 10 September 2015, 22:21:56
    are there red GMK spacebars? I don't think I've seen one... would like one though TT

    I've never seen them myself and don't recall there being any.

    Quote from: Karura on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:50:18
    What happened to GH?

    Yes

    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 11 September 2015, 06:10:30
    Why do Topre fans tend to use universal 55g boards? I like the idea of lighter mods - pinkies are thin and weak.

    Quote from: cannonking on Fri, 11 September 2015, 08:54:39
    A friend of mine got a little too angry during a Dota game and smashed his keyboard with his fist. His O key stopped working. Changing the switch will probably fix it right? He doesn't want to desolder/solder anything, where is a cheap place in the UK that will do the change?

    You'll need to desolder/solder. In addition to suicidal_orange's offer, I think Margo Baggins is still doing UK modding.

    Quote from: jd29 on Sun, 13 September 2015, 04:40:15
    Is it just me or are Alps SKCM white really sensitive to age/wear? Both boards I'be tried are super inconsistent switch to switch, and one's unusable because the switches are so frictiony.

    And are all Alps like that, including blue?

    All switches are susceptible to wear, age, and cleanliness. Alps seem to be a little more so then other switch types IMO but I found that BS switches are extremely variable too. Moreso than any Alps I've tried.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Mon, 14 September 2015, 17:58:46
    Thanks for the answer.

    Seems i found something intersting, stay tuned, its not in the mail atm.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Mon, 14 September 2015, 18:38:57
    Could someone give me the dimensions of the fabric bag who was used to ship / store your keycap set ? Need to craft one or two, could be helpful. Like something who is good for a 102 keycap set.

    Thanks.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 14 September 2015, 19:54:40
    Quote from: Signature on Mon, 07 September 2015, 10:42:47
    Does anyone know what aluminum alloy the top case of the LZ-GH is? Thinking about reanodizing it :)

    Same as CBA said.  Also, unless another alloy is mentioned, it is fairly safe to assume that all milled cases are 6061 T6.  I don't know about Vortex as I believe they cast their cases and mill to spec from there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 September 2015, 20:04:28
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Mon, 14 September 2015, 18:38:57
    Could someone give me the dimensions of the fabric bag who was used to ship / store your keycap set ? Need to craft one or two, could be helpful. Like something who is good for a 102 keycap set.

    Thanks.

    Fabric bag to store your keycap set? What are you imagining? Because a bag full of a caps in my head is like a ziplock bag with a bunch of caps in it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 15 September 2015, 02:19:47
    VIM-arrowkey users of all faiths, breeds, colors and creeds, I bring you this question: do you move your fingers one key to the left on the home row when using the arrowkeys? If so - every time or just when you know you'll be using the arrowkeys a lot?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 15 September 2015, 02:41:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 September 2015, 20:04:28
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Mon, 14 September 2015, 18:38:57
    Could someone give me the dimensions of the fabric bag who was used to ship / store your keycap set ? Need to craft one or two, could be helpful. Like something who is good for a 102 keycap set.

    Thanks.

    Fabric bag to store your keycap set? What are you imagining? Because a bag full of a caps in my head is like a ziplock bag with a bunch of caps in it.

    Well, you got what i mean, but with a ziplog bag you are gonna get condensation. Thats why i want to use fabric. And yeah i need to be ok for a whole set, not just 3 caps :) I was seing lot of people on some pictures from other website where they get the set in a fabric bag.

    THanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 15 September 2015, 03:03:12
    Condensation...? We're still talking about plastic, right? Worst case scenario, toss in one of those silica gel packets. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Packs-1g-Non-Toxic-Silica-Gel-Desiccant-Moisture-Absorber-Dehumidifier-/321758027036?hash=item4aea45dd1c)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Tue, 15 September 2015, 06:13:49
    i have an '89 IBM Model M coming in and, from what i've googled, it draws ~112mA.
    so i've searched google and checked the manual of my motherboard, but wasn't able to find specifics of my ps/2 port.

    how would i find out if my PS/2 port provides enough power? can i safely plug the keyboard in to see if it works?
    is there some label i could read, or maybe check within my OS?
    suggestions are welcome!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 15 September 2015, 06:15:09
    http://www.computer-engineering.org/ps2protocol/
    Max is 275mA
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 15 September 2015, 07:07:15
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 15 September 2015, 03:03:12
    Condensation...? We're still talking about plastic, right? Worst case scenario, toss in one of those silica gel packets. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Packs-1g-Non-Toxic-Silica-Gel-Desiccant-Moisture-Absorber-Dehumidifier-/321758027036?hash=item4aea45dd1c)

    Thanks, will do this.

    Any idea then on the bag dimension ? If the condensation problem is solved with the silica gel,i only need to find the bag now.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 15 September 2015, 08:07:27
    Well, I'm storing my Pok3r keycaps, which is 61 keys, in a 1l bag (33 backwards as **** ounces), with lots of space to spare.
    And yesterday I got the DSA Eve set in a bag about half the size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 September 2015, 08:16:18
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 15 September 2015, 02:41:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 September 2015, 20:04:28
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Mon, 14 September 2015, 18:38:57
    Could someone give me the dimensions of the fabric bag who was used to ship / store your keycap set ? Need to craft one or two, could be helpful. Like something who is good for a 102 keycap set.

    Thanks.

    Fabric bag to store your keycap set? What are you imagining? Because a bag full of a caps in my head is like a ziplock bag with a bunch of caps in it.

    Well, you got what i mean, but with a ziplog bag you are gonna get condensation. Thats why i want to use fabric. And yeah i need to be ok for a whole set, not just 3 caps :) I was seing lot of people on some pictures from other website where they get the set in a fabric bag.

    THanks

    You're definitely overthinking this. It's plastic. They can get wet lol...I put whole sets in ziplock bags all the time. No issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 15 September 2015, 09:12:21
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 11 September 2015, 20:52:28
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:41:54
    If you mean show new replies to your posts you can't change that.

    I really wish there was a way to change/edit it.  I use this all the time, and every time I post in a new thread the list of topics gets longer.

    Me too.  :-/  It gets particularly cumbersome to have threads I have zero interest in but just posted in for moderation-related purposes show up all the time.  At a certain point, it becomes easier to change the way you browse - start 'watching' threads you care about and just browse that way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 15 September 2015, 09:25:01
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 15 September 2015, 09:12:21
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 11 September 2015, 20:52:28
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:41:54
    If you mean show new replies to your posts you can't change that.

    I really wish there was a way to change/edit it.  I use this all the time, and every time I post in a new thread the list of topics gets longer.

    Me too.  :-/  It gets particularly cumbersome to have threads I have zero interest in but just posted in for moderation-related purposes show up all the time.  At a certain point, it becomes easier to change the way you browse - start 'watching' threads you care about and just browse that way.

    Yeah, I never even thought about a moderator trying to use that feature.  Now that you mention it, I'll probably end up trying the "watched" thread method.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:11:38
    I found this keyboard on ebay, and was just wondering if it was mechanical or not.  The sellers calls it a "mechanical keyboard" but when I looked on the deskthority wiki it said the model number was a rubber dome. I just want to see if it is a mechanical board or not.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/181864341826?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/181864341826?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:14:25
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:11:38
    I found this keyboard on ebay, and was just wondering if it was mechanical or not.  The sellers calls it a "mechanical keyboard" but when I looked on the deskthority wiki it said the model number was a rubber dome. I just want to see if it is a mechanical board or not.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/181864341826?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/181864341826?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Series

    DT Wiki says G83-XXXX are rubber domes with sliders. I trust that wiki article.

    http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G83_series

    Some teardown pictures here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:15:35
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:11:38
    I found this keyboard on ebay, and was just wondering if it was mechanical or not.  The sellers calls it a "mechanical keyboard" but when I looked on the deskthority wiki it said the model number was a rubber dome. I just want to see if it is a mechanical board or not.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/181864341826?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/181864341826?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

    compare to this :


    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/5/56/G83-3000_SAU_top_some_removed.jpg)
    http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:G83-3000_SAU_top_some_removed.jpg

    Looks indeed very close to a regular G80-3000 but not the same thing underneath.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Fri, 18 September 2015, 04:09:27
    Any good TKL to have a look on second market ? ( That could have a ISO layout )

    IBM SSK ?  Novatouch ?



    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sth on Fri, 18 September 2015, 04:55:44
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:11:38
    I found this keyboard on ebay, and was just wondering if it was mechanical or not.  The sellers calls it a "mechanical keyboard" but when I looked on the deskthority wiki it said the model number was a rubber dome. I just want to see if it is a mechanical board or not.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/181864341826?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/181864341826?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

    definitely not mechanical. g83 is rdoms. a pretty rdoms but rdoms nonetheless.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 September 2015, 07:27:34


    Quote from: Eugene45 on Fri, 18 September 2015, 04:09:27
    Any good TKL to have a look on second market ? ( That could have a ISO layout )

    IBM SSK ?  Novatouch ?

    Could you be a little more specific? What are you looking for in a keyboard exactly besides iso and TKL?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 18 September 2015, 18:58:25
    Anyone know anything about the alu 60% case on MD? The blue looks nice..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kennardsmith on Fri, 18 September 2015, 19:25:21
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 18 September 2015, 18:58:25
    Anyone know anything about the alu 60% case on MD? The blue looks nice..

    I've got the gold one. It's heavy!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Fri, 18 September 2015, 22:55:36
    My HHKB spacebar has a real click/rattle sound to it, particularly when pressed on the left side (I press space with my left thumb :().

    I've searched around a little bit and I couldn't find any solutions - I assume it's the probably the stabiliser? Anyone know what to do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 18 September 2015, 22:57:01
    Quote from: kennardsmith on Fri, 18 September 2015, 19:25:21
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 18 September 2015, 18:58:25
    Anyone know anything about the alu 60% case on MD? The blue looks nice..

    I've got the gold one. It's heavy!

    Still on the fence about it (no information on the manufacture, can't find any thorough reviews...)

    Oh well I'll wait til the last minute I guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kennardsmith on Sat, 19 September 2015, 13:27:53
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 18 September 2015, 22:57:01
    Quote from: kennardsmith on Fri, 18 September 2015, 19:25:21
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 18 September 2015, 18:58:25
    Anyone know anything about the alu 60% case on MD? The blue looks nice..

    I've got the gold one. It's heavy!

    Still on the fence about it (no information on the manufacture, can't find any thorough reviews...)

    Oh well I'll wait til the last minute I guess.

    I'm pretty sure it's the same as these:

    http://world.taobao.com/item/40921762675.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.qbEGO3#detail

    Let me know if I can tell you anything about the case. I like it a lot, will probably get another one soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 19 September 2015, 13:45:39
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 18 September 2015, 18:58:25
    Anyone know anything about the alu 60% case on MD? The blue looks nice..

    I got a silver one on the last drop.
    It's  nice. I just wish they would offer it in a grey color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Sat, 19 September 2015, 22:43:30
    Quote from: Bomble on Fri, 18 September 2015, 22:55:36
    My HHKB spacebar has a real click/rattle sound to it, particularly when pressed on the left side (I press space with my left thumb :().

    I've searched around a little bit and I couldn't find any solutions - I assume it's the probably the stabiliser? Anyone know what to do?

    Bump to this while I'm here

    But also, I'm looking to silence mod my HHKB - is there an advantage to Hypersphere's silencing rings other than convenience? Or would I get a similar effect from ironing EK landing pads? The weak Australian dollar is making this very difficult :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 September 2015, 23:24:10
    Quote from: Bomble on Sat, 19 September 2015, 22:43:30
    1) I've searched around a little bit and I couldn't find any solutions - I assume it's the probably the stabiliser? Anyone know what to do?

    2) But also, I'm looking to silence mod my HHKB - is there an advantage to Hypersphere's silencing rings other than convenience? Or would I get a similar effect from ironing EK landing pads? The weak Australian dollar is making this very difficult :(

    Don't bump please.

    1) Here's four threads I found really quick.
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40653.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46648.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50312.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66981.0

    2) Here's some popular silence mods:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40582.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0

    I don't Topre so I have personal experience on if this works or not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Sat, 19 September 2015, 23:32:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 September 2015, 23:24:10
    Quote from: Bomble on Sat, 19 September 2015, 22:43:30
    1) I've searched around a little bit and I couldn't find any solutions - I assume it's the probably the stabiliser? Anyone know what to do?

    2) But also, I'm looking to silence mod my HHKB - is there an advantage to Hypersphere's silencing rings other than convenience? Or would I get a similar effect from ironing EK landing pads? The weak Australian dollar is making this very difficult :(

    Don't bump please.

    1) Here's four threads I found really quick.
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40653.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46648.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50312.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66981.0

    2) Here's some popular silence mods:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40582.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0

    I don't Topre so I have personal experience on if this works or not.

    Oops :-X sorry man.

    Thanks for the links, the clicking seems to be from when I either rest my thumb on space, or when I bottom out. So I'm guessing I'll just need to lube it.

    As for the silencing, I know what options I have, I'm just curious as to a comparison between the two methods that I mentioned :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: edb5s on Tue, 22 September 2015, 12:29:02
    Can someone identify this board?

    (http://i.imgur.com/AJODvwj.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/NrQwJQ9.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 September 2015, 12:30:07
    Quote from: edb5s on Tue, 22 September 2015, 12:29:02
    Can someone identify this board?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/AJODvwj.jpg)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/NrQwJQ9.jpg)


    Either an IBM M2 (low profile BS board) or a rubber dome. I'm leaning towards M2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: edb5s on Tue, 22 September 2015, 12:35:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 September 2015, 12:30:07
    Quote from: edb5s on Tue, 22 September 2015, 12:29:02
    Can someone identify this board?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/AJODvwj.jpg)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/NrQwJQ9.jpg)


    Either an IBM M2 (low profile BS board) or a rubber dome. I'm leaning towards M2.

    Thanks for the input. Since I posted, I did some more searching and it looks like it is an IBM KB-8923, which is a rubber dome board.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72595.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 22 September 2015, 12:39:14
    Quote from: edb5s on Tue, 22 September 2015, 12:35:10
    it looks like it is an IBM KB-8923, which is a rubber dome board.


    The 8923 is a very well-built rubber dome board, I have had a few of them.

    The case of an M2 is considerably smaller.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 22 September 2015, 15:56:53
    The M2 is also less round than that one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 22 September 2015, 19:16:51
    Can someone post a side shot of some Leopold blanks please?  Also, number of each size and each row for the singles would be great.  Going to be selling mine and just want to check if I have all of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Wed, 23 September 2015, 14:54:23
    what are my options to get an IBM Model F 'XT' to work on new hardware?
    (i have PS/2 on this motherboard in case that gives me more options)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 September 2015, 14:56:19
    Quote from: Bucake on Wed, 23 September 2015, 14:54:23
    what are my options to get an IBM Model F 'XT' to work on new hardware?
    (i have PS/2 on this motherboard in case that gives me more options)

    PS/2 to USB converter
    Teensy converter
    Hasu converter
    xwhatsit Controller
    I think phosphorglow has a controller out too
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Wed, 23 September 2015, 16:36:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 September 2015, 14:56:19
    Quote from: Bucake on Wed, 23 September 2015, 14:54:23
    what are my options to get an IBM Model F 'XT' to work on new hardware?
    (i have PS/2 on this motherboard in case that gives me more options)

    PS/2 to USB converter
    Teensy converter
    Hasu converter
    xwhatsit Controller
    I think phosphorglow has a controller out too

    thanks a ton for your response :)
    did some googling to your suggestions, and eventually found this on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281476427201
    looks pretty damn incredible, can't believe there's a converter in there. anyway, hopefully i'll be able to get one once the seller is processing orders again..
    thanks again!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 23 September 2015, 16:41:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 September 2015, 14:56:19
    Quote from: Bucake on Wed, 23 September 2015, 14:54:23
    what are my options to get an IBM Model F 'XT' to work on new hardware?
    (i have PS/2 on this motherboard in case that gives me more options)

    PS/2 to USB converter
    Teensy converter
    Hasu converter
    xwhatsit Controller
    I think phosphorglow has a controller out too

    I didn't realize that xwhatsit worked on the XT due to the controller being onboard.  Or am I missing something there with pulling that chip out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 September 2015, 18:02:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 23 September 2015, 16:41:23
    I didn't realize that xwhatsit worked on the XT due to the controller being onboard.  Or am I missing something there with pulling that chip out?

    I assumed if it worked for a Kishsaver, it would work for an XT. Is that not the case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 23 September 2015, 18:35:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 September 2015, 18:02:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 23 September 2015, 16:41:23
    I didn't realize that xwhatsit worked on the XT due to the controller being onboard.  Or am I missing something there with pulling that chip out?

    I assumed if it worked for a Kishsaver, it would work for an XT. Is that not the case?

    To my knowldedge no.  Because the xwhatsit is a full controller swap, and reads the matrix directly.  Hence all the cap sense adjustments in the GUI.  With the XT, since it is fixed on the board, I was under the impression that you were limited to converters.  Though there are still options.  Granted I don't remember if XT can be used on USB/PS/2 with simple plug changes. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 23 September 2015, 19:58:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 23 September 2015, 18:35:09
    I don't remember if XT can be used on USB/PS/2 with simple plug changes. 

    No, it takes more. The DIN plug on the XT looks like an AT plug but doesn't speak the same language.

    Orihalcon's cables are the cleanest and easiest, but not the cheapest.

    Hagstrom makes a plug & play outboard converter.

    Soarer's / Teensy probably gives the most options, but you have to buy it and build it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Thu, 24 September 2015, 06:09:26
    Anyone know if I can assign FnLock to some key on Model F using Xwhatsit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 24 September 2015, 07:58:39
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 24 September 2015, 06:09:26
    Anyone know if I can assign FnLock to some key on Model F using Xwhatsit?

    Orihalcon listed some programming procedures in his ebay listing that will probably work. Look down in the details.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/271973216154
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 24 September 2015, 09:34:02
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 24 September 2015, 07:58:39
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 24 September 2015, 06:09:26
    Anyone know if I can assign FnLock to some key on Model F using Xwhatsit?

    Orihalcon listed some programming procedures in his ebay listing that will probably work. Look down in the details.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/271973216154

    I know you can with an external switch from the expansion header. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Thu, 24 September 2015, 17:33:33
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 24 September 2015, 07:58:39
    Quote from: darkspider on Thu, 24 September 2015, 06:09:26
    Anyone know if I can assign FnLock to some key on Model F using Xwhatsit?

    Orihalcon listed some programming procedures in his ebay listing that will probably work. Look down in the details.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/271973216154
    Thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:09:16
    On switch opening, is there a recommended procedure to open a switch with a simple flat screw driver? I did that yesterday, and I found it to be doable, but wonder if there are some tips to do it better. I know there are fancy switch tools, as well as some DIY clip ones; but the driver had the job done.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inanis on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:16:54
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:09:16
    On switch opening, is there a recommended procedure to open a switch with a simple flat screw driver? I did that yesterday, and I found it to be doable, but wonder if there are some tips to do it better. I know there are fancy switch tools, as well as some DIY clip ones; but the driver had the job done.
    Before I had a switch opener tool I found the easiest thing to use was pointy tipped tweezers, the kind that you can find in the beauty section at a CVS, or other drug store. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:19:45
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:09:16
    On switch opening, is there a recommended procedure to open a switch with a simple flat screw driver? I did that yesterday, and I found it to be doable, but wonder if there are some tips to do it better. I know there are fancy switch tools, as well as some DIY clip ones; but the driver had the job done.
    Alps SKCM, or Cherry MX compatible? I always use a pair of curved tweezers for MX.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 11:52:13
    Quote from: davkol on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:19:45
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:09:16
    On switch opening, is there a recommended procedure to open a switch with a simple flat screw driver? I did that yesterday, and I found it to be doable, but wonder if there are some tips to do it better. I know there are fancy switch tools, as well as some DIY clip ones; but the driver had the job done.
    Alps SKCM, or Cherry MX compatible? I always use a pair of curved tweezers for MX.

    I am sorry, I did not mention they were Cherry clear switches. Do you have a picture or reference for those particular tweezers, and it sounds like a great idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 12:07:50
    Is there a place, besides the marketplace, to get Cherry clear stems?

    Is there a Gateron switch whose stem is closer to Cherry clear?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 25 September 2015, 12:57:07
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 12:07:50
    Is there a place, besides the marketplace, to get Cherry clear stems?

    Is there a Gateron switch whose stem is closer to Cherry clear?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.0) for the gateron equivalent

    But there isnt' anywhere to buy just clear cherry mx stems, mechanicalkeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=58) has some clear cherry mx switches

    You can also substitute mx tactile gray stems as they are the same, the spring is what makes the difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Fri, 25 September 2015, 14:20:21
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 11:52:13
    Quote from: davkol on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:19:45
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:09:16
    On switch opening, is there a recommended procedure to open a switch with a simple flat screw driver? I did that yesterday, and I found it to be doable, but wonder if there are some tips to do it better. I know there are fancy switch tools, as well as some DIY clip ones; but the driver had the job done.
    Alps SKCM, or Cherry MX compatible? I always use a pair of curved tweezers for MX.

    I am sorry, I did not mention they were Cherry clear switches. Do you have a picture or reference for those particular tweezers, and it sounds like a great idea.
    See this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSOfjSF5I3s).

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 17:10:42
    Thank you SpamRay and Davkol for the answers, I will have a sweet time checking them, this afternoon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 17:18:13
    Quote from: davkol on Fri, 25 September 2015, 14:20:21
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 11:52:13
    Quote from: davkol on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:19:45
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 10:09:16
    On switch opening, is there a recommended procedure to open a switch with a simple flat screw driver? I did that yesterday, and I found it to be doable, but wonder if there are some tips to do it better. I know there are fancy switch tools, as well as some DIY clip ones; but the driver had the job done.
    Alps SKCM, or Cherry MX compatible? I always use a pair of curved tweezers for MX.

    I am sorry, I did not mention they were Cherry clear switches. Do you have a picture or reference for those particular tweezers, and it sounds like a great idea.
    See this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSOfjSF5I3s).


    Those tweezers work great, thank you again for the reference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 17:23:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 25 September 2015, 12:57:07
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 12:07:50
    Is there a place, besides the marketplace, to get Cherry clear stems?

    Is there a Gateron switch whose stem is closer to Cherry clear?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.0) for the gateron equivalent

    But there isnt' anywhere to buy just clear cherry mx stems, mechanicalkeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=58 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=58)) has some clear cherry mx switches

    You can also substitute mx tactile gray stems as they are the same, the spring is what makes the difference.

    This Zealios - 65g - Tactile (Purple ergo-clear stem) - have the same specifications of my modded clears; but, the color and the high price.

    Thank you for the reference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Fri, 25 September 2015, 19:23:43
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 17:23:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 25 September 2015, 12:57:07
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 25 September 2015, 12:07:50
    Is there a place, besides the marketplace, to get Cherry clear stems?

    Is there a Gateron switch whose stem is closer to Cherry clear?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.0) for the gateron equivalent

    But there isnt' anywhere to buy just clear cherry mx stems, mechanicalkeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=58 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=58)) has some clear cherry mx switches

    You can also substitute mx tactile gray stems as they are the same, the spring is what makes the difference.

    This Zealios - 65g - Tactile (Purple ergo-clear stem) - have the same specifications of my modded clears; but, the color and the high price.

    Thank you for the reference.

    Oh, so you got clear tops and bottom housing on your modded clears for the same price? Where can I get some? :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:22:55
    Has anybody saved the GMK Red Alert mock up pic from Photekq's mini GB?

    The link is dead and only the Olivetti pic is still up.

    (http://precision-buys.com/images/oli.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:35:19
    Not sure if this is a simple question (or the answer would be simple)… I'm potentially interested in getting a Leeku PCB (probably the 1800 one) and using it with a custom layout (ANSI HHKB, ISO Shift and JIS spacebar row). However, I haven't found a clear statement
    I have found several threads about what appears to be different revisions, and some GitHub repo (https://github.com/leeku11/mx1830), but I wonder if there's some precise specification somewhere (or if anyone can post it).

    (For the record, I use GNU/Linux and have dfu-programmer installed among other stuff, but I guess other systems would give me some clue anyway.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:46:15
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:35:19
    Not sure if this is a simple question (or the answer would be simple)… I'm potentially interested in getting a Leeku PCB (probably the 1800 one) and using it with a custom layout (ANSI HHKB, ISO Shift and JIS spacebar row). However, I haven't found a clear statement
    • what the controller is (i.e., the chip or something),
    • how programming is done and/or what firmware is supported.
    I have found several threads about what appears to be different revisions, and some GitHub repo (https://github.com/leeku11/mx1830), but I wonder if there's some precise specification somewhere (or if anyone can post it).

    (For the record, I use GNU/Linux and have dfu-programmer installed among other stuff, but I guess other systems would give me some clue anyway.)

    What pcb are you talking about here?
    My LZ-SQ is a leeku PCB and I have the Jigon software, that is almost as good as the Gon one.
    And I know he recently moved his 3000 & 1800 pcb onto this Jigon tool. It might be a windows only software tho, I'm not sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:59:46
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:22:55
    Has anybody saved the GMK Red Alert mock up pic from Photekq's mini GB?

    The link is dead and only the Olivetti pic is still up.

    Show Image
    (http://precision-buys.com/images/oli.jpg)


    Here ya go.

    (http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/GH%20Pics%20For%20or%20From%20GeekHack/GH%20Group%20Buys/neone23%20-%20Red%20Alert.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 26 September 2015, 03:02:27
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:59:46
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:22:55
    Has anybody saved the GMK Red Alert mock up pic from Photekq's mini GB?

    The link is dead and only the Olivetti pic is still up.

    Show Image
    (http://precision-buys.com/images/oli.jpg)


    Here ya go.

    Show Image
    (http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/GH%20Pics%20For%20or%20From%20GeekHack/GH%20Group%20Buys/neone23%20-%20Red%20Alert.jpg)


    Thanks  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 26 September 2015, 03:03:22
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Sat, 26 September 2015, 03:02:27
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:59:46
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:22:55
    Has anybody saved the GMK Red Alert mock up pic from Photekq's mini GB?

    The link is dead and only the Olivetti pic is still up.

    Show Image
    (http://precision-buys.com/images/oli.jpg)


    Here ya go.

    Show Image
    (http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/GH%20Pics%20For%20or%20From%20GeekHack/GH%20Group%20Buys/neone23%20-%20Red%20Alert.jpg)


    Thanks  :thumb:

    No problem  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sat, 26 September 2015, 03:19:52
    Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:46:15
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:35:19
    …I'm potentially interested in getting a Leeku PCB (probably the 1800 one)… However, I haven't found a clear statement
    • what the controller is (i.e., the chip or something),
    • how programming is done and/or what firmware is supported.
    I have found several threads about what appears to be different revisions, and some GitHub repo (https://github.com/leeku11/mx1830), but I wonder if there's some precise specification somewhere (or if anyone can post it).
    (…)

    What pcb are you talking about here?
    My LZ-SQ is a leeku PCB and I have the Jigon software, that is almost as good as the Gon one.
    And I know he recently moved his 3000 & 1800 pcb onto this Jigon tool. It might be a windows only software tho, I'm not sure.
    I've highlighted the 1800 mention and the link to the MX1830 repo (last updated earlier this month).

    Thanks anyway; if it's true that there's some migration to a closed solution going on, it might save quite some monies.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sat, 26 September 2015, 03:29:52
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 26 September 2015, 03:19:52
    Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:46:15
    Quote from: davkol on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:35:19
    …I'm potentially interested in getting a Leeku PCB (probably the 1800 one)… However, I haven't found a clear statement
    • what the controller is (i.e., the chip or something),
    • how programming is done and/or what firmware is supported.
    I have found several threads about what appears to be different revisions, and some GitHub repo (https://github.com/leeku11/mx1830), but I wonder if there's some precise specification somewhere (or if anyone can post it).
    (…)

    What pcb are you talking about here?
    My LZ-SQ is a leeku PCB and I have the Jigon software, that is almost as good as the Gon one.
    And I know he recently moved his 3000 & 1800 pcb onto this Jigon tool. It might be a windows only software tho, I'm not sure.
    I've highlighted the 1800 mention and the link to the MX1830 repo (last updated earlier this month).

    Thanks anyway; if it's true that there's some migration to a closed solution going on, it might save quite some monies.

    I think the Jigon tool is just a facilitator and you can work you own thing, but don't use me as a source I'm not quite certain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Sun, 27 September 2015, 10:12:42
    why are industrial IBMs so much more expensive than 'regular' ones?
    i've seen top-condition IBMs go for a few dozens of bucks, but then see the industrial version go for 400, or 600, or even 800+? what makes them so special, rarity?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 27 September 2015, 10:16:37
    Quote from: Bucake on Sun, 27 September 2015, 10:12:42
    what makes them so special, rarity?
    ^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Sun, 27 September 2015, 13:29:51
    Quote from: Bucake on Sun, 27 September 2015, 10:12:42
    why are industrial IBMs so much more expensive than 'regular' ones?
    i've seen top-condition IBMs go for a few dozens of bucks, but then see the industrial version go for 400, or 600, or even 800+? what makes them so special, rarity?
    Rarity, hype. It's a bubble.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 September 2015, 13:56:26
    Quote from: Bucake on Sun, 27 September 2015, 10:12:42
    why are industrial IBMs so much more expensive than 'regular' ones?

    The same reason that coin collectors pay 100x as much for a 1909S VDB Lincoln cent than for a 1909 VDB.
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Mon, 28 September 2015, 18:26:37
    hehe, got it.

    so i have a zenith 100-1886 coming in. does anyone know if this thing is AT, or XT? would it be safe to just try it out with an AT to PS/2 adapter?
    also, is there anything i should keep in mind when i open it up for cleaning? like a risk of breaking (stabilized) caps when pulling them up? (it uses Alps SKCL.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dohbot on Mon, 28 September 2015, 19:02:00
    Well my question would be, what would the FC660M aluminum case in titanium grey look like with hyperfuse on it? So if someone has that combo, I'd love a picture, but since I don't know if anyone has that case or one by the same company with the same color, I'll ask, what color aluminum case http://world.taobao.com/item/520940971460.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.MLdXWo#detail (http://world.taobao.com/item/520940971460.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.MLdXWo#detail) would be best suited towards hyperfuse?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 23:33:32
    Where I can get some sip sockets? and what is the main difference between long and short ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 September 2015, 08:47:52
    I know this question comes up an awful lot regarding various custom boards, but after some light searching I'm coming up empty.  :(  So, sorry to be that guy, but:

    Does anyone know the alloy type used in The Cheat's construction?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 September 2015, 09:10:50
    Quote from: dohbot on Mon, 28 September 2015, 19:02:00
    1) Well my question would be, what would the FC660M aluminum case in titanium grey look like with hyperfuse on it? So if someone has that combo, I'd love a picture, but since I don't know if anyone has that case or one by the same company with the same color, I'll ask,

    2) what color aluminum case http://world.taobao.com/item/520940971460.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.MLdXWo#detail (http://world.taobao.com/item/520940971460.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.MLdXWo#detail) would be best suited towards hyperfuse?

    1) This is the closest picture I could find of that case color and a quick search.
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/aluminum-case-for-leopold-fc660m/talk - Case for reference
    http://i.imgur.com/6R7DPK6.jpg - Keyboard (Not sure who is the owner or what keyboard it is :()

    2) Definitely personal preference in terms of what you think is "best". I can't do color comparisons on my work computer though to give you my opinion since my work computer's colors are jacked.


    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 23:33:32
    1)Where I can get some sip sockets?

    2) and what is the main difference between long and short ones?

    1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.msg1413823#msg1413823

    2) You mean besides the length? :)) I'd just use whatever everyone else used. I would imagine that the longer ones would make it harder to install.


    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 28 September 2015, 18:26:37
    hehe, got it.

    so i have a zenith 100-1886 coming in. does anyone know if this thing is AT, or XT? would it be safe to just try it out with an AT to PS/2 adapter?
    also, is there anything i should keep in mind when i open it up for cleaning? like a risk of breaking (stabilized) caps when pulling them up? (it uses Alps SKCL.)

    I'm guessing AT from these pictures (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/zenith-z-150-keyboard-t9094.html). Alps in general are more susceptible to dirt, dust, and grime affecting the feeling so you may want to clean it. Alps caps are harder to pull off so make sure you rock from side to side while pulling caps. Be very careful pulling stabilizers as they're hard to come off and if you break them, very hard to replace. I suggest checking out chyros' videos on how he cleaned up his Alps boards. Also BlueBar has a good video IIRC.

    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 September 2015, 08:47:52
    I know this question comes up an awful lot regarding various custom boards, but after some light searching I'm coming up empty.  :(  So, sorry to be that guy, but:

    Does anyone know the alloy type used in The Cheat's construction?

    Seems like the vast majority of customs are Aluminum 6061 but I'm not sure. I couldn't find an answer but I did find this clue from DanGWanG (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39299.msg767764#msg767764).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 September 2015, 09:10:58
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 23:33:32
    Where I can get some sip sockets? and what is the main difference between long and short ones?
    For sources you can get them on eBay (cheapest I'm sure one example http://m.ebay.com/itm/5-x-40-Pin-DIP-SIP-IC-Sockets-Adaptor-Solder-Type-USA-SELLER-Free-Shipping-/321804663212?nav=SEARCH , mechanicalkeyboards.com, zealpc, mouser and I'm sure many other places.

    The differences I think are self explanatory, the longer ones give you more to solder to, but to me its almost personal preference and how much do you really want to spend.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Tue, 29 September 2015, 09:22:27
    thanks a ton CPTBadAss :) a bunch of real nice info in that thread.

    ( i must be bad at google for not having found that thread myself! :( )
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 29 September 2015, 09:24:35
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 September 2015, 09:10:58
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 23:33:32
    Where I can get some sip sockets? and what is the main difference between long and short ones?
    For sources you can get them on eBay (cheapest I'm sure one example http://m.ebay.com/itm/5-x-40-Pin-DIP-SIP-IC-Sockets-Adaptor-Solder-Type-USA-SELLER-Free-Shipping-/321804663212?nav=SEARCH (http://m.ebay.com/itm/5-x-40-Pin-DIP-SIP-IC-Sockets-Adaptor-Solder-Type-USA-SELLER-Free-Shipping-/321804663212?nav=SEARCH) , mechanicalkeyboards.com, zealpc, mouser and I'm sure many other places.

    The differences I think are self explanatory, the longer ones give you more to solder to, but to me its almost personal preference and how much do you really want to spend.

    They are in their way to my door, already. My Nerd60 will be very happy to have interchangeable leds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dohbot on Tue, 29 September 2015, 11:22:55

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 September 2015, 09:10:50
    Quote from: dohbot on Mon, 28 September 2015, 19:02:00
    1) Well my question would be, what would the FC660M aluminum case in titanium grey look like with hyperfuse on it? So if someone has that combo, I'd love a picture, but since I don't know if anyone has that case or one by the same company with the same color, I'll ask,

    2) what color aluminum case http://world.taobao.com/item/520940971460.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.MLdXWo#detail (http://world.taobao.com/item/520940971460.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.MLdXWo#detail) would be best suited towards hyperfuse?

    1) This is the closest picture I could find of that case color and a quick search.
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/aluminum-case-for-leopold-fc660m/talk - Case for reference
    http://i.imgur.com/6R7DPK6.jpg - Keyboard (Not sure who is the owner or what keyboard it is :()

    2) Definitely personal preference in terms of what you think is "best". I can't do color comparisons on my work computer though to give you my opinion since my work computer's colors are jacked.


    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 23:33:32
    1)Where I can get some sip sockets?

    2) and what is the main difference between long and short ones?

    1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.msg1413823#msg1413823

    2) You mean besides the length? :)) I'd just use whatever everyone else used. I would imagine that the longer ones would make it harder to install.


    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 28 September 2015, 18:26:37
    hehe, got it.

    so i have a zenith 100-1886 coming in. does anyone know if this thing is AT, or XT? would it be safe to just try it out with an AT to PS/2 adapter?
    also, is there anything i should keep in mind when i open it up for cleaning? like a risk of breaking (stabilized) caps when pulling them up? (it uses Alps SKCL.)

    I'm guessing AT from these pictures (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/zenith-z-150-keyboard-t9094.html). Alps in general are more susceptible to dirt, dust, and grime affecting the feeling so you may want to clean it. Alps caps are harder to pull off so make sure you rock from side to side while pulling caps. Be very careful pulling stabilizers as they're hard to come off and if you break them, very hard to replace. I suggest checking out chyros' videos on how he cleaned up his Alps boards. Also BlueBar has a good video IIRC.

    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 September 2015, 08:47:52
    I know this question comes up an awful lot regarding various custom boards, but after some light searching I'm coming up empty.  :(  So, sorry to be that guy, but:

    Does anyone know the alloy type used in The Cheat's construction?

    Seems like the vast majority of customs are Aluminum 6061 but I'm not sure. I couldn't find an answer but I did find this clue from DanGWanG (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39299.msg767764#msg767764).
    That looks like the black case I just don't want the modifier keys to be a slightly different and weird to the case thanks for the help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 29 September 2015, 11:26:29
    Thank you very much for the answers guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Tue, 29 September 2015, 21:45:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 September 2015, 09:10:50
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 September 2015, 08:47:52
    I know this question comes up an awful lot regarding various custom boards, but after some light searching I'm coming up empty.  :(  So, sorry to be that guy, but:

    Does anyone know the alloy type used in The Cheat's construction?

    Seems like the vast majority of customs are Aluminum 6061 but I'm not sure. I couldn't find an answer but I did find this clue from DanGWanG (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39299.msg767764#msg767764).

    I can't imagine why anyone would use an alloy other than 6061-T6, unless they just wanted to be able to say their keyboard is made from aircraft aluminum or something. T6 is not only one of the cheapest and most widely available, it's also very stable and easy to work with (some alloys bend and bow a lot as you remove stock).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 September 2015, 08:43:12
    I agree njbair but perhaps people want to go with say mild steel of some sort to save money.

    /me dreams of a keyboard case made of Inconel
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 09:59:27
    safe to clean pcb + components with alcohol 70%?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 September 2015, 10:02:03
    Quote from: Bucake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 09:59:27
    safe to clean pcb + components with alcohol 70%?

    Probably but I'd recommend trying to find 90+% which has less water in it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 30 September 2015, 10:08:17
    Quote from: njbair on Tue, 29 September 2015, 21:45:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 September 2015, 09:10:50
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 September 2015, 08:47:52
    I know this question comes up an awful lot regarding various custom boards, but after some light searching I'm coming up empty.  :(  So, sorry to be that guy, but:

    Does anyone know the alloy type used in The Cheat's construction?

    Seems like the vast majority of customs are Aluminum 6061 but I'm not sure. I couldn't find an answer but I did find this clue from DanGWanG (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39299.msg767764#msg767764).

    I can't imagine why anyone would use an alloy other than 6061-T6, unless they just wanted to be able to say their keyboard is made from aircraft aluminum or something. T6 is not only one of the cheapest and most widely available, it's also very stable and easy to work with (some alloys bend and bow a lot as you remove stock).
    Although beautiful Aluminum is soft and very easy to dent, ding and scratch up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:50:51
    is it safe to plug a 5din into a ps/2 PC port?
    i mean.. this board i have here might be XT for all i know, but i have a 5din to ps/2 adapter (not converter) here and figured i'd just try to see if it works..

    so, is it guaranteed safe to try, even if the board would be XT? or could it actually do harm to the board or my pc?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:14:55
    Quote from: Bucake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:50:51
    is it safe to plug a 5din into a ps/2 PC port?
    i mean.. this board i have here might be XT for all i know, but i have a 5din to ps/2 adapter (not converter) here and figured i'd just try to see if it works..

    so, is it guaranteed safe to try, even if the board would be XT? or could it actually do harm to the board or my pc?

    Don't plug it in hot. As far as I know, if it is XT it simply won't be recognized at boot-up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:24:11
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:14:55
    Quote from: Bucake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:50:51
    is it safe to plug a 5din into a ps/2 PC port?
    i mean.. this board i have here might be XT for all i know, but i have a 5din to ps/2 adapter (not converter) here and figured i'd just try to see if it works..

    so, is it guaranteed safe to try, even if the board would be XT? or could it actually do harm to the board or my pc?

    Don't plug it in hot. As far as I know, if it is XT it simply won't be recognized at boot-up.

    thank you, thank you :) turned off the pc, and plugged it in..
    the lights light up (and stay on), but no key seems to be doing anything. "no keyboard found" in startup as well.
    i hope this means it's a functional XT rather than broken AT :D will get a converter soon, though!

    thanks again!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 01 October 2015, 05:34:27
    i can't track down a scientific explanation of why aluminum cannot be anodized white. anyone cares to shed some light on this?

    why does a keyboard still draw power from the usb hub when the laptop is turned off and charging, but not when it is in sleep mode and charging?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 01 October 2015, 06:42:40
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Thu, 01 October 2015, 05:34:27
    i can't track down a scientific explanation of why aluminum cannot be anodized white. anyone cares to shed some light on this?

    why does a keyboard still draw power from the usb hub when the laptop is turned off and charging, but not when it is in sleep mode and charging?
    Anodize colors are applied via a dyeing process. Dye soaks into materials and adds tint to the original color. Pigmentation, such as paint, sits on top of a material and covers up the original color. Since white is the lightest color, white dye is actually just clear. It may be scientifically possible to clear dye something, I don't know. But you wouldn't be able to see it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 01 October 2015, 08:15:02
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 01 October 2015, 06:42:40
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Thu, 01 October 2015, 05:34:27
    i can't track down a scientific explanation of why aluminum cannot be anodized white. anyone cares to shed some light on this?

    why does a keyboard still draw power from the usb hub when the laptop is turned off and charging, but not when it is in sleep mode and charging?
    Anodize colors are applied via a dyeing process. Dye soaks into materials and adds tint to the original color. Pigmentation, such as paint, sits on top of a material and covers up the original color. Since white is the lightest color, white dye is actually just clear. It may be scientifically possible to clear dye something, I don't know. But you wouldn't be able to see it.

    Also this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45117.5
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 02 October 2015, 02:32:47
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 01 October 2015, 06:42:40
    Anodize colors are applied via a dyeing process. Dye soaks into materials and adds tint to the original color. Pigmentation, such as paint, sits on top of a material and covers up the original color. Since white is the lightest color, white dye is actually just clear. It may be scientifically possible to clear dye something, I don't know. But you wouldn't be able to see it.
    so you subscribe to the theory that white dyes are translucent? someone said the process is akin to pouring milk onto the metal which makes sense to me. but this is different from the theory posted in CPT's link, which says white pigment molecules are too large for the pores on the aluminum surface. they are both sound theories, hence my attempt to find a scientifically credible source to confirm things, one way or the other
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 02 October 2015, 07:45:55
    Quote from: whentheclouds on Fri, 02 October 2015, 02:32:47
    Quote from: njbair on Thu, 01 October 2015, 06:42:40
    Anodize colors are applied via a dyeing process. Dye soaks into materials and adds tint to the original color. Pigmentation, such as paint, sits on top of a material and covers up the original color. Since white is the lightest color, white dye is actually just clear. It may be scientifically possible to clear dye something, I don't know. But you wouldn't be able to see it.
    so you subscribe to the theory that white dyes are translucent? someone said the process is akin to pouring milk onto the metal which makes sense to me. but this is different from the theory posted in CPT's link, which says white pigment molecules are too large for the pores on the aluminum surface. they are both sound theories, hence my attempt to find a scientifically credible source to confirm things, one way or the other
    As an utterly untrained layperson, yes that was my understanding.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 02 October 2015, 09:55:21
    Is there an stepped ISO enter key for Cherry switches like the one available on the Kishsavers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 October 2015, 10:02:31
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 02 October 2015, 09:55:21
    Is there an stepped ISO enter key for Cherry switches like the one available on the Kishsavers?

    I've never seen one. Or heard of a stepped enter key.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 15:18:04
    Hello, i have a g81-3000LANDE laying aroud, wanted to use it or doing some paint project on it.
    What are the board who can go in it to have some "REAL" mechanical switches in it ?

    By any chance has someone a CAD 3d file of a g81-3000 case ?

    Thanks in advance and have a nice day.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:00:34
    anywhere to get springs for (compicated) alps?
    i have some board with green SKCL Alps, but the right shift has a damaged spring :/
    wouldn't mind if the force isn't exactly the same as the other keys of course. would be nice to get it close, though. wikipedia says greens are 50gf.

    also.. the spacebar rattles like crazy. any way to 'fix' this? the stabilizer does not seem damaged or bent in any way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:10:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 October 2015, 10:02:31
    I've never seen one. Or heard of a stepped enter key.

    I have several stepped Enter keys from 122-key IBM terminals. It is located at the lower right where you expect Right Control to be.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:14:57
    Quote from: Bucake on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:00:34
    anywhere to get springs for (compicated) alps?
    i have some board with green SKCL Alps, but the right shift has a damaged spring :/
    wouldn't mind if the force isn't exactly the same as the other keys of course. would be nice to get it close, though. wikipedia says greens are 50gf.

    also.. the spacebar rattles like crazy. any way to 'fix' this? the stabilizer does not seem damaged or bent in any way.

    I would send you some old switches for the cost of international postage, but it would be faster and easier to get them in the Euro zone.

    The space bar probably has 2 insert tabs on the underside that hold the wire, and there are probably 2 hold-down tabs mounted in the front plate. Ensure that all 4 of these are seated properly and the wire is being restrained as it should be.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:41:46
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 15:18:04
    Hello, i have a g81-3000LANDE laying aroud, wanted to use it or doing some paint project on it.
    What are the board who can go in it to have some "REAL" mechanical switches in it ?

    By any chance has someone a CAD 3d file of a g81-3000 case ?

    Thanks in advance and have a nice day.

    G81 has Cherry MY switches which are mechanical, just feel awful. You can probably drop a Leeku 3000 PCB into it and it'll work with MX mount switches.

    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:10:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 October 2015, 10:02:31
    I've never seen one. Or heard of a stepped enter key.

    I have several stepped Enter keys from 122-key IBM terminals. It is located at the lower right where you expect Right Control to be.


    Today I learned. Thanks! I love when I learn new info from this thread :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 22:11:44
    Quote from: Bucake on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:00:34
    anywhere to get springs for (compicated) alps?
    i have some board with green SKCL Alps, but the right shift has a damaged spring :/
    wouldn't mind if the force isn't exactly the same as the other keys of course. would be nice to get it close, though. wikipedia says greens are 50gf.

    also.. the spacebar rattles like crazy. any way to 'fix' this? the stabilizer does not seem damaged or bent in any way.

    I have some broken Matias Linear switches (missing leads) that you could have. They are 60gf though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 23:41:27
    How hard is it to hand wire a keyboard? I have two that I'd like to use but I can't afford the $15/hour or so that is charged for custom soldering services.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Sat, 03 October 2015, 01:21:36
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:41:46
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 15:18:04
    Hello, i have a g81-3000LANDE laying aroud, wanted to use it or doing some paint project on it.
    What are the board who can go in it to have some "REAL" mechanical switches in it ?

    By any chance has someone a CAD 3d file of a g81-3000 case ?

    Thanks in advance and have a nice day.

    G81 has Cherry MY switches which are mechanical, just feel awful. You can probably drop a Leeku 3000 PCB into it and it'll work with MX mount switches.

    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:10:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 October 2015, 10:02:31
    I've never seen one. Or heard of a stepped enter key.

    I have several stepped Enter keys from 122-key IBM terminals. It is located at the lower right where you expect Right Control to be.


    Today I learned. Thanks! I love when I learn new info from this thread :)


    Okay that is a great news. Do the MY switches have any utility ? Or is it just good enough for the bin ?
    And now, i have to find G81-3000 case CAD file for my friend who could make me the 3d paint on it.
    Thanks Captain and have a nice day.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 03 October 2015, 07:12:54
    I'd take an MY over here, need one of them still.  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 03 October 2015, 08:45:50
    I got an MY keyboard as a side to another deal here, several years ago. MY has some sort of double spring affair and he (can't remember who) had removed one set, resulting in an activation force of something like 15g. It was kind of interesting and I used it just a little, but I had really bought it for the caps so I tossed the rest.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 03 October 2015, 09:42:53


    Quote from: Eugene45 on Sat, 03 October 2015, 01:21:36
    Okay that is a great news. Do the MY switches have any utility ? Or is it just good enough for the bin ?
    And now, i have to find G81-3000 case CAD file for my friend who could make me the 3d paint on it.
    Thanks Captain and have a nice day.

    If you like how they feel, keep the switches. If you don't, toss em. I consider MY instant toss but that's me.

    I'm not sure you'll be able to find files to 3d print a 3000 case. Most available 3D printers don't have the build space. Not sure why you wouldn't just use the current case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Sat, 03 October 2015, 09:47:12
    Friend of mine have great drawing skill, has a a drawing tablet, could make me a good job for the case but need so 3d file to send him.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 04 October 2015, 09:40:29
    I'm having problems finding long legged SIP sockets shippable to Europe. Ebay is fine, so is Dealextreme, AliExpress or whatever. TaoBao and your local hardware store is not.  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 04 October 2015, 11:22:00
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 23:41:27
    How hard is it to hand wire a keyboard? I have two that I'd like to use but I can't afford the $15/hour or so that is charged for custom soldering services.

    If you have a soldering iron, some nice fluxy solder, two plates with cases, a couple of Teensys (or similar,) a big bag of switches, lots of diodes and some wire it's really not that hard, as long as you don't need it to look immaculate.

    The only things to worry about are

    1) Put all the diodes facing the same way.  If you're planning to use the EasyAVR firmware they need to be installed so current flows from row to column
    2) Write down what you connected to what (rows and columns to pin numbers) so you can configure the firmware to match
    3) Be careful not to short anything, though this will only cause random input not permanent damage

    This thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74223.0) has some good step by step pics :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Sun, 04 October 2015, 11:26:46
    I'm now interested in IBM Model F with solenoid installed. But I have a problem how to find them. It seems that people use solenoids from IBM Displaywriter in general, which I cannot find.
    After some research, I found one from IBM Wheelwriter instead. However I wonder it will work well with xwhatsit-installed Model F, because I couldn't find well-described information about this kind of problem. If possible, please rent me your knowledge.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 04 October 2015, 18:26:38
    Are there any Korean artisan makers out there or does it tend to be more of a GH thing?

    edit: artisan as in keycap makers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Sun, 04 October 2015, 20:26:08
    so i removed some rust off a plate, but in return i got grey/black areas, as well as 'bleached' areas..
    did i screw up the plate..? what's going on?

    i used lemon juice and a toothbrush..
    was i too aggressive with the scrubbing? did i leave the juice on there for too long?

    can i fix it? :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 04 October 2015, 20:28:41
    Quote from: Bucake on Sun, 04 October 2015, 20:26:08
    so i removed some rust off a plate, but in return i got grey/black areas, as well as 'bleached' areas

    did i screw up the plate?

    can i fix it?

    Get rid of all the bad stuff and give it a good paint job using rust preventive paint (eg "Rustoleum" in the US).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 October 2015, 20:38:12
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Sun, 04 October 2015, 18:26:38
    Are there any Korean artisan makers out there or does it tend to be more of a GH thing?

    edit: artisan as in keycap makers

    GirlDC is a Korean novelty cap maker. Not aware of any others off the top of my thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Sun, 04 October 2015, 20:57:59
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 04 October 2015, 20:28:41
    Get rid of all the bad stuff and give it a good paint job using rust preventive paint (eg "Rustoleum" in the US).

    thank you!! will need to look into it a bit because they seem to have a million different kinds :-X

    so those bleached or darkened areas don't necessarily matter, and i can just paint/coat over them?
    because i can't seem to get rid of those areas. it looks like the acid just 'burned' the top (coating) of the metal off a little bit.
    i also noticed that those areas feel smoother than the 'untouched' areas.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 04 October 2015, 21:07:00
    Quote from: Bucake on Sun, 04 October 2015, 20:57:59

    thank you!! will need to look into it a bit because they seem to have a million different kinds :-X

    so those bleached or darkened areas don't necessarily matter, and i can just paint/coat over them?
    because i can't seem to get rid of those areas. it looks like the acid just 'burned' the top (coating) of the metal off a little bit.
    i also noticed that those areas feel smoother than the 'untouched' areas.

    I swear by Rustoleum.

    The story is that fishing ships rusted like crazy in the salt water, but fishermen realized that areas covered in fish oil did not rust as much.
    So they isolated the fish oil component that resisted rust and incorporated it into the paint formula.

    True or not, Rustoleum paint has always performed great for me. And they make products to be painted directly onto active rust to stop it!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Elrick on Sun, 04 October 2015, 21:36:18
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 04 October 2015, 21:07:00
    I swear by Rustoleum.

    The story is that fishing ships rusted like crazy in the salt water, but fishermen realized that areas covered in fish oil did not rust as much.
    So they isolated the fish oil component that resisted rust and incorporated it into the paint formula.

    True or not, Rustoleum paint has always performed great for me. And they make products to be painted directly onto active rust to stop it!

    Also brilliant for applying on the underside of any Landcruiser when it scrapes the natural paint off, through any off road maneuvers.  Have scraped off a lot of the natural paint down to bare metal and I simply apply a fresh coat of Rustoleum and it's good to go for another few years.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 05 October 2015, 02:08:16
    Where can I buy replacement keyboard feet?  My octagon feet are starting to get loose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 05 October 2015, 02:18:14
    Glued or screwed? Either way you can get them on ebay. There's a 3M part number floating around for glued feet which I think people have been very happy with, but I can't find it, which is weird, cause it's probably in this thread.

    (No, not the transparent tiny bumps, the proper ones)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Mon, 05 October 2015, 05:13:21
    damnit, i've been using the tiny transparent bumps :/
    but there are better ones out there? they absorb better, or something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 05 October 2015, 05:21:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 October 2015, 20:38:12
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Sun, 04 October 2015, 18:26:38
    Are there any Korean artisan makers out there or does it tend to be more of a GH thing?

    edit: artisan as in keycap makers

    GirlDC is a Korean novelty cap maker. Not aware of any others off the top of my thing.

    Cool! It's just whenever I browse OTD they have all the sweet Korean boards but the artisans are always CC or Bros
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 05 October 2015, 05:22:37
    Bigger and actually made for it. These are made to lift the back (or front, if you want) of the keyboard, not just make it stand a little more still.
    If you want the keyboard to ACTUALLY stand still, by the way, there's a third 3M number for that. I don't have that either. The transparent bumps are horrible at lifting AND horrible for stopping movement, but they're cheap so people get them anyway, and then get annoyed when they don't do what they're not meant to do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 05 October 2015, 07:59:23
    The bumps that came with the octagon were really cool, is it possible to buy something similar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 05 October 2015, 12:50:38
    On 7u stab wires: Do bent and straight ones work the same?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 05 October 2015, 13:35:54
    Does anyone know where I can get long tailed SIP sockets? I got bunch of long MillMax ones off of one of the GBs. I've bought a bunch off of eBay and they're super short.

    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rpeterclark on Mon, 05 October 2015, 13:41:48
    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 05 October 2015, 13:35:54
    Does anyone know where I can get long tailed SIP sockets? I got bunch of long MillMax ones off of one of the GBs. I've bought a bunch off of eBay and they're super short.

    Thanks in advance!

    These here are not the really long tail I have seen in some places, but they are long enough to poke out the bottom of the board when used in-switch: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=311-43-164-41-001000virtualkey57510000virtualkey575-31143164 You can see them on a PCB I was working on here:

    (https://i.imgur.com/WQouSjQ.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 October 2015, 13:55:13
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 05 October 2015, 12:50:38
    On 7u stab wires: Do bent and straight ones work the same?

    Same issue as the 6.25x ones as far as I know. They do the same thing but depending on the plate you have, you'll need the wire with the bend or the straight wire.

    Quote from: Dreamre on Mon, 05 October 2015, 13:35:54
    Does anyone know where I can get long tailed SIP sockets? I got bunch of long MillMax ones off of one of the GBs. I've bought a bunch off of eBay and they're super short.

    Thanks in advance!

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1879842#msg1879842
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 05 October 2015, 14:13:38
    Tapatalk fail......^^the sip sockets I linked earlier in the thread are short.

    The longer millmax aren't as common. Mouser might have them but they cost quite a bit more than the eBay ones. There should be some info in that group buy thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Mon, 05 October 2015, 17:38:30
    Do the little clips that hold the stabilizer wire on alps plates pop out really easy? On my matias V60 the right clip on the left shift comes out very easily, but also snaps back into place easily so I was just curious if I messed it up the first time it came out, or if they are always easy to pop in and out.

    Once I pop it in it is fine and will not come back out until I swap the cap, so it is not anything that affects the board much, just something I was curious about because I would like to avoid messing more of them up if it is something I did.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 05 October 2015, 19:03:04
    Quote from: nickheller on Mon, 05 October 2015, 17:38:30
    Do the little clips that hold the stabilizer wire on alps plates pop out really easy?

    The body of the thing is in a "C" shape pointing downwards, and it is the "C" trying to open up that holds it in place.

    If you squeeze the "C" too far closed you can collapse it somewhat, and if it is strained or cracked it won't push out as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Mon, 05 October 2015, 19:31:01
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:14:57
    Quote from: Bucake on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:00:34
    the spacebar rattles like crazy. any way to 'fix' this? the stabilizer does not seem damaged or bent in any way.

    The space bar probably has 2 insert tabs on the underside that hold the wire, and there are probably 2 hold-down tabs mounted in the front plate. Ensure that all 4 of these are seated properly and the wire is being restrained as it should be.
    thanks! i checked everything (removed it and installed it again to be sure), but it didn't help.
    i think the stabilizer just rattles a little bit in-between the tabs that hold it. i guess i could try to squeeze the tabs a bit so the fit is a bit tighter, but i don't like the risk of breaking the plastic. maybe i'll try some thick lube..

    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:14:57
    Quote from: Bucake on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:00:34
    anywhere to get springs for (compicated) alps?
    I would send you some old switches for the cost of international postage, but it would be faster and easier to get them in the Euro zone.
    i have a shot at getting an apple extended keyboard locally. if i win the auction, i guess my problem is solved : )
    thanks a ton for the offer!

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 22:11:44
    I have some broken Matias Linear switches (missing leads) that you could have. They are 60gf though.
    thank you for the offer : )
    hopefully it won't be needed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 05 October 2015, 22:04:03
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 05 October 2015, 19:31:01
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:14:57
    Quote from: Bucake on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:00:34
    the spacebar rattles like crazy. any way to 'fix' this? the stabilizer does not seem damaged or bent in any way.


    If hold down tabs are loose you should replace the stab base supports.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 05 October 2015, 22:25:56
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 05 October 2015, 22:04:03
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 05 October 2015, 19:31:01
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:14:57
    Quote from: Bucake on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:00:34
    the spacebar rattles like crazy. any way to 'fix' this? the stabilizer does not seem damaged or bent in any way.


    If hold down tabs are loose you should replace the stab base supports.

    If they are loose in the plate or the inserts are loose in the caps, try using bits of plastic from sandwich baggies as a shim.  They work wonders on SP DCS sets that are notorious for letting inserts fall out, though I haven't used them for the parts mounted to the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raymogi on Tue, 06 October 2015, 06:54:13
    Can I hot plug/unplug the SSK? Using the ps2 port.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 06 October 2015, 07:12:12
    Quote from: raymogi on Tue, 06 October 2015, 06:54:13
    Can I hot plug/unplug the SSK? Using the ps2 port.

    no you'll need an active PS2 to USB adaptor
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: darkspider on Tue, 06 October 2015, 07:15:31
    Quote from: raymogi on Tue, 06 October 2015, 06:54:13
    Can I hot plug/unplug the SSK? Using the ps2 port.
    Regardless of model of keyboards, I don't recommend hotplugging PS2. Maybe your M/B won't recognize it as mine won't recognize my Model Ms. But you can do it using usb conversion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raymogi on Tue, 06 October 2015, 07:16:44
    Thanks for the answer.

    Yeah my SSK wasn't recognized the first time I plugged it in, had to do some registry tweak I found by googling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Tue, 06 October 2015, 07:30:32
    rebooting while the ps/2 board is plugged in should also work.
    but i guess that tweak is more convenient : )
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:27:22
    There are a lot of videos that visually show how to build a computer and that helped me out a lot. But I can't find any videos of someone building a keyboard. I need to see something to learn it. Are there any videos of someone showing how to build a keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raymogi on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:28:21
    Quote from: Vozella on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:27:22
    There are a lot of videos that visually show how to build a computer and that helped me out a lot. But I can't find any videos of someone building a keyboard. I need to see something to learn it. Are there any videos of someone showing how to build a keyboard?

    This is the one I watch for guidance:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:31:31
    Quote from: Vozella on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:27:22
    There are a lot of videos that visually show how to build a computer and that helped me out a lot. But I can't find any videos of someone building a keyboard. I need to see something to learn it. Are there any videos of someone showing how to build a keyboard?
    Search YouTube for whitefiredragon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:43:34
    Edit:  Deleted, changing direction with project.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 06 October 2015, 22:26:59
    Has someone had experience with the double soldering iron and de-solder pump tools?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 06 October 2015, 23:24:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:31:31
    Quote from: Vozella on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:27:22
    There are a lot of videos that visually show how to build a computer and that helped me out a lot. But I can't find any videos of someone building a keyboard. I need to see something to learn it. Are there any videos of someone showing how to build a keyboard?
    Search YouTube for whitefiredragon

    Yup  https://www.youtube.com/user/WhiteFireDragon/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/WhiteFireDragon/videos)  Helped me out a lot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 07 October 2015, 07:34:23
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 06 October 2015, 22:26:59
    Has someone had experience with the double soldering iron and de-solder pump tools?

    If you are talking about these, I have one an really like it for a cheap simple tool. But it is really only for de-soldering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elgiraffe on Wed, 07 October 2015, 09:25:38
    Is there a way to setup on-the-fly macro recording with a custom keyboard?  What I mean is I want to have a macro button and a macro record button.  When I press the macro record button it starts recording keypresses until I hit the record button again and it stores the keypresses in memory.  Then when I press the macro button, it repeats the recorded macro.

    I know this is doable with software installed on the PC, but I was hoping for something in the keyboard itself.  I am currently using a teensy 2.0, but I could upgrade that if needed.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 09:47:48
    Quote from: elgiraffe on Wed, 07 October 2015, 09:25:38
    Is there a way to setup on-the-fly macro recording with a custom keyboard?  What I mean is I want to have a macro button and a macro record button.  When I press the macro record button it starts recording keypresses until I hit the record button again and it stores the keypresses in memory.  Then when I press the macro button, it repeats the recorded macro.

    I know this is doable with software installed on the PC, but I was hoping for something in the keyboard itself.  I am currently using a teensy 2.0, but I could upgrade that if needed.

    Thanks.

    Um...I'm really bad at code and I can't tell for sure if it's been implemented in TMK. I think it has (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.msg1674688;topicseen#msg1674688) but I'd ask in hasu's TMK thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0). Looks like metalliqaz's EasyAVR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0) does support it though.

    Quote from: agbockus on Wed, 07 October 2015, 09:41:54
    More
    Hello there, I'm typing this from my month old HHKB from EK. I'm loving the Topre feel and I love the keyboard - but I use this at work. I've noticed that if I put my MacBook Pro to sleep for any long than 10-20 minutes, the keyboard won't respond after waking it up - sometimes for an hour or more. Restarting and plugging/unplugging doesn't fix it. I've heard of this bug in OS X but I'm in desperate need of figuring this out - whenever I go on lunch I have to come back and spend the rest of the day typing on my Macbook's keyboard...and it's so horrible after using the HHKB all day! Any help would be greatly appreciated! (Sorry if this is in the wrong sub/thread - I figured it might be a keyboard issue).

    PS - I've already installed the mac drivers from the EK website, but it didn't make a difference. Also, the dip switch for Mac layout is on (obviously).

    Thanks ahead of time everybody!

    I found this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65251.0). I'm not sure if that's useful to you but maybe you can look through it and see if it helps at all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:10:27
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 05 October 2015, 07:59:23
    The bumps that came with the octagon were really cool, is it possible to buy something similar?

    To expand on this:  the bumpers(?) under the octagon were really cool since you could move the keyboard with them on if you applied enough force.  Does anyone know if there is something similar available anywhere or if it's possible to get replacement ones from Duck?  (I lost one of my bumpers)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:14:43
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:10:27
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Mon, 05 October 2015, 07:59:23
    The bumps that came with the octagon were really cool, is it possible to buy something similar?

    To expand on this:  the bumpers(?) under the octagon were really cool since you could move the keyboard with them on if you applied enough force.  Does anyone know if there is something similar available anywhere or if it's possible to get replacement ones from Duck?  (I lost one of my bumpers)

    3M makes bumpers. Look for one that looks like it will work. I'd say like 90% of the bumpers I've seen are just 3M bumpers. I spent like 30 minutes looking for a picture of the Octogon bumpers with no luck and that's why I didn't reply.


    Please don't bump your questions. This is the last time I'm going to ask nicely. If everyone bumps their question, this thread will get really messy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:25:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:14:43
    Please don't bump your questions. This is the last time I'm going to ask nicely. If everyone bumps their question, this thread will get really messy.

    It's entirely possible that someone's question is overlooked by the "expert" that would know the answer.  What should someone do in that case?  Not trying to cause a ruckus, just genuinely curious.  I agree that if everyone bumps it's complete chaos.  I suppose at that point the asker could deem it no longer a simple question, and create an individual thread?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: i0nC4nn0n on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:34:59
    Quote from: elgiraffe on Wed, 07 October 2015, 09:25:38
    Is there a way to setup on-the-fly macro recording with a custom keyboard?  What I mean is I want to have a macro button and a macro record button.  When I press the macro record button it starts recording keypresses until I hit the record button again and it stores the keypresses in memory.  Then when I press the macro button, it repeats the recorded macro.

    I know this is doable with software installed on the PC, but I was hoping for something in the keyboard itself.  I am currently using a teensy 2.0, but I could upgrade that if needed.

    Thanks.
    There is this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0) that can do just that. I'm using it on 2 different keyboards, and it works fine, but u need a compatible board (handwire is compatible). The teensy has enough horsepower, but if your converting from a different protocol (say ps/2) than your kinda out of luck unless you know python, in which case PM me! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:50:46
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:25:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:14:43
    Please don't bump your questions. This is the last time I'm going to ask nicely. If everyone bumps their question, this thread will get really messy.

    It's entirely possible that someone's question is overlooked by the "expert" that would know the answer.  What should someone do in that case?  Not trying to cause a ruckus, just genuinely curious.  I agree that if everyone bumps it's complete chaos.  I suppose at that point the asker could deem it no longer a simple question, and create an individual thread?

    That or PM me and I'll work extra hard to find an answer. Usually a question doesn't get buried...it's only goes a few pages back. Having a bit of patience can't hurt. In this particular case, it was only two days.

    If you set a precedence, people will take advantage so I'm going with cutting it off before it begins. Nothing against  asgeirtj. He just happened to do it and I caught myself asking for no bumps again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 07 October 2015, 16:45:24
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 07 October 2015, 07:34:23
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 06 October 2015, 22:26:59
    Has someone had experience with the double soldering iron and de-solder pump tools?

    If you are talking about these, I have one an really like it for a cheap simple tool. But it is really only for de-soldering.

    I used to use one of those.  Used it for one board and junked it and bought an Edsyn desoldering pump to use with a standard iron.  Much better desoldering.  You can find them at geekhackers.org.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 08 October 2015, 06:51:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:50:46
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:25:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:14:43
    Please don't bump your questions. This is the last time I'm going to ask nicely. If everyone bumps their question, this thread will get really messy.

    It's entirely possible that someone's question is overlooked by the "expert" that would know the answer.  What should someone do in that case?  Not trying to cause a ruckus, just genuinely curious.  I agree that if everyone bumps it's complete chaos.  I suppose at that point the asker could deem it no longer a simple question, and create an individual thread?

    That or PM me and I'll work extra hard to find an answer. Usually a question doesn't get buried...it's only goes a few pages back. Having a bit of patience can't hurt. In this particular case, it was only two days.

    If you set a precedence, people will take advantage so I'm going with cutting it off before it begins. Nothing against  asgeirtj. He just happened to do it and I caught myself asking for no bumps again.

    Sorry for bumping, just though if I'd expand/give more information I'd be more likely to get an answer.  I'll provide a picture of the octagon bumpers later today.

    Another question:

    http://cherrycorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/12.gif

    Does anyone know the difference in height between E and F row in mm ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 08 October 2015, 07:35:18
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 07 October 2015, 16:45:24
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 07 October 2015, 07:34:23
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 06 October 2015, 22:26:59
    Has someone had experience with the double soldering iron and de-solder pump tools?

    If you are talking about these, I have one an really like it for a cheap simple tool. But it is really only for de-soldering.

    I used to use one of those.  Used it for one board and junked it and bought an Edsyn desoldering pump to use with a standard iron.  Much better desoldering.  You can find them at geekhackers.org.

    It seems that they work, thank you very much for your answers. I do not do well with a separated sucker, so I will give one of these a try.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 October 2015, 07:58:06
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 08 October 2015, 06:51:32
    Another question:

    http://cherrycorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/12.gif

    Does anyone know the difference in height between E and F row in mm ?

    If you're not super picky I can try measuring them with my micrometer later. I can't find a measurement online.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 08 October 2015, 08:42:12
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 08 October 2015, 06:51:32
    Talk about bumpers.
    I bumped (HAH, PUN) into the 3M bumpers today, and found a picture of all the different models in the series.

    https://www1.elfa.se/data1/wwwroot/assets/large/selbstklebende-kunststofffusse-bumpon-Trademark--13.jpg

    I was referring to SJ5017, but as you can see there's quite a selection.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 08 October 2015, 12:40:58
    The recent discussion about HHKBs, Macs, and sleep issues was split from this topic and now exists as its own dedicated topic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75914.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 08 October 2015, 14:14:32
    Here is a pic of my bumper, as you can see the adhesive has gone bad.  So what m3 type is this one?  And where can I  buy it cheap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 October 2015, 14:18:08
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 08 October 2015, 14:14:32
    Here is a pic of my bumper, as you can see the adhesive has gone bad.  So what m3 type is this one?  And where can I  buy it cheap?

    Search for 3M bumpon or 3M rubber bumper on your favorite buying website like Amazon or eBay. If you want to be more specific, measure the bumpon you have and then search for those dimensions. I don't know **** about Iceland retailers so I don't know how to find something that has cheap shipping to you. So I don't know what cheap is where you are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: agbockus on Thu, 08 October 2015, 14:31:49
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 08 October 2015, 12:40:58
    The recent discussion about HHKBs, Macs, and sleep issues was split from this topic and now exists as its own dedicated topic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75914.0).
    Sorry Hoff! I didn't really know where else to put it when I started and figured it was going to be a quick fix. I was so wrong...

    Thank you for your help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 October 2015, 14:35:04
    Quote from: agbockus on Thu, 08 October 2015, 14:31:49
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 08 October 2015, 12:40:58
    The recent discussion about HHKBs, Macs, and sleep issues was split from this topic and now exists as its own dedicated topic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75914.0).
    Sorry Hoff! I didn't really know where else to put it when I started and figured it was going to be a quick fix. I was so wrong...

    Thank you for your help!

    It's no problem. That's exactly how I envisioned this thread to work: If it's easy, then we'll take care of it here. If it's not working out so easily, we break it off into a new thread. I asked the mod team to break it out and Hoff helped me out. So definitely thanks for the quick reply Hoff and glad this is all helping you. No need to be sorry :).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 08 October 2015, 15:40:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 October 2015, 14:35:04
    Quote from: agbockus on Thu, 08 October 2015, 14:31:49
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 08 October 2015, 12:40:58
    The recent discussion about HHKBs, Macs, and sleep issues was split from this topic and now exists as its own dedicated topic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75914.0).
    Sorry Hoff! I didn't really know where else to put it when I started and figured it was going to be a quick fix. I was so wrong...

    Thank you for your help!

    It's no problem. That's exactly how I envisioned this thread to work: If it's easy, then we'll take care of it here. If it's not working out so easily, we break it off into a new thread. I asked the mod team to break it out and Hoff helped me out. So definitely thanks for the quick reply Hoff and glad this is all helping you. No need to be sorry :).

    Yeah, no need to apologize.  :)  That's how this is supposed to work!  :D  Happy to help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Fri, 09 October 2015, 17:20:12
    Questions about Gateron switches.
    1) Are there any currently avaliable Gateron switch testers? I have a Cherry switch tester and it helped me out a lot. There are a few on Massdrop that are really good but they might not be avaliable for a long time.
    2) Are there any comparisons between Gateron and Cherry switches so I can get an idea of what they feel like? I can't find any.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Fri, 09 October 2015, 17:43:32
    Does anybody know where I can get the NPKC 17 Switch Tester (other than Ebay)?
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/npkc-switch-tester/talk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 09 October 2015, 17:55:01
    Not sure its a simple question, but figured someone might know.

    Anyone know where I can find a 30g topre board or want to sell me theirs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Fri, 09 October 2015, 19:20:34
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 09 October 2015, 17:55:01
    Not sure its a simple question, but figured someone might know.

    Anyone know where I can find a 30g topre board or want to sell me theirs?

    They sell them on the japanese auctions sites, like yahoo. You need a proxy though to buy from there, but evo_spec on the forums has helped many gh'ers out with this!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 09 October 2015, 19:26:55
    Quote from: byker on Fri, 09 October 2015, 19:20:34
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 09 October 2015, 17:55:01
    Not sure its a simple question, but figured someone might know.

    Anyone know where I can find a 30g topre board or want to sell me theirs?

    They sell them on the japanese auctions sites, like yahoo. You need a proxy though to buy from there, but evo_spec on the forums has helped many gh'ers out with this!
    Cool thanks for the info. Ideally I would be looking for an ANSI layout uniform 30g in TKL, but I don't even know if that exists.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 10 October 2015, 11:42:20
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 09 October 2015, 17:20:12
    Questions about Gateron switches.
    1) Are there any currently avaliable Gateron switch testers? I have a Cherry switch tester and it helped me out a lot. There are a few on Massdrop that are really good but they might not be avaliable for a long time.
    2) Are there any comparisons between Gateron and Cherry switches so I can get an idea of what they feel like? I can't find any.
    3) Does anybody know where I can get the NPKC 17 Switch Tester (other than Ebay)?
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/npkc-switch-tester/talk

    1) That NPKC one or other testers that Massdrop may come out with are the only ones I'm aware of that have Gaterons.

    2) There's a bunch of threads on this topic (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#es_th=1&q=site%3Ageekhack.org%20gateron%20vs%20cherry). I also wrote a review (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0).

    3) I'm not aware of it being available anywhere else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ManicMatt1125 on Sat, 10 October 2015, 15:43:34
    Question about CM Novatouch compatibility with Topre key caps

    I read ripsters review and if I understand it correctly, topre caps will NOT fit on the novatouch, unless the stem is switched out, IS this correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sat, 10 October 2015, 15:52:15
    Quote from: ManicMatt1125 on Sat, 10 October 2015, 15:43:34
    Question about CM Novatouch compatibility with Topre key caps

    I read ripsters review and if I understand it correctly, topre caps will NOT fit on the novatouch, unless the stem is switched out, IS this correct?

    Correct. Only mx keys will work on the novatouch. To note, many mx artisans won't work on the novatouch, because some of them (such as bro caps) have square stems which don't fit on the circular sliders.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 11 October 2015, 19:52:08
    Any suggestions for getting ball point pen out of PBT caps?

    Denture cleaner doesn't seem to be getting through.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 11 October 2015, 19:53:11
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 October 2015, 19:52:08
    Any suggestions for getting ball point pen out of PBT caps?

    Denture cleaner doesn't seem to be getting through.
    Isopropyl Alcohol?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 October 2015, 20:02:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 October 2015, 19:52:08
    Any suggestions for getting ball point pen out of PBT caps?

    Denture cleaner doesn't seem to be getting through.

    My process is: (1) soap (2) alcohol (3) mineral spirits (4) naptha or acetone [careful!] (5) abrasives - white "Mr Clean" sponge eraser - Scotchbrite scrubber - pencil eraser - electric eraser - sandpaper
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 October 2015, 22:07:57
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 October 2015, 20:02:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 October 2015, 19:52:08
    Any suggestions for getting ball point pen out of PBT caps?

    Denture cleaner doesn't seem to be getting through.

    My process is: (1) soap (2) alcohol (3) mineral spirits (4) naptha or acetone [careful!] (5) abrasives - white "Mr Clean" sponge eraser - Scotchbrite scrubber - pencil eraser - electric eraser - sandpaper

    Water with 15% in weight backing soda, let the caps in the mix for half an hour, and scrub them gently with scothbrite, clean them and you got it. Solvents and abrasives are not recommended by any means.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 11 October 2015, 22:14:53
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 11 October 2015, 22:07:57
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 October 2015, 20:02:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 October 2015, 19:52:08
    Any suggestions for getting ball point pen out of PBT caps?

    Denture cleaner doesn't seem to be getting through.

    My process is: (1) soap (2) alcohol (3) mineral spirits (4) naptha or acetone [careful!] (5) abrasives - white "Mr Clean" sponge eraser - Scotchbrite scrubber - pencil eraser - electric eraser - sandpaper

    Water with 15% in weight backing soda, let the caps in the mix for half an hour, and scrub them gently with scothbrite, clean them and you got it. Solvents and abrasives are not recommended by any means.

    Thanks guys.  I know the "Mr. Clean" eraser is a mild abrasive, but that worked fine for the pen ink.  It was just along the front face of the bottom row of caps.  Didn't take much and got rid of the ink.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 October 2015, 22:18:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 October 2015, 22:14:53
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 11 October 2015, 22:07:57
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 October 2015, 20:02:44
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 11 October 2015, 19:52:08
    Any suggestions for getting ball point pen out of PBT caps?

    Denture cleaner doesn't seem to be getting through.

    My process is: (1) soap (2) alcohol (3) mineral spirits (4) naptha or acetone [careful!] (5) abrasives - white "Mr Clean" sponge eraser - Scotchbrite scrubber - pencil eraser - electric eraser - sandpaper

    Water with 15% in weight backing soda, let the caps in the mix for half an hour, and scrub them gently with scothbrite, clean them and you got it. Solvents and abrasives are not recommended by any means.

    Thanks guys.  I know the "Mr. Clean" eraser is a mild abrasive, but that worked fine for the pen ink.  It was just along the front face of the bottom row of caps.  Didn't take much and got rid of the ink.

    Awesome. Good job then.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Mon, 12 October 2015, 23:06:25
    What does it feel like to type on ergo clears mounted in a heavy-ass aluminium board (OTD, LZ, KMAC, etc)? I've tried neither.

    What would be the first choice that comes to your mind if I asked you about a full-size aluminium board (with winkeys)?

    Do I bring dishonour to my family if I said I feel like selling my hhkb for a full size RF?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 13 October 2015, 00:26:41
    Quote from: nmur on Mon, 12 October 2015, 23:06:25
    What does it feel like to type on ergo clears mounted in a heavy-ass aluminium board (OTD, LZ, KMAC, etc)? I've tried neither.

    What would be the first choice that comes to your mind if I asked you about a full-size aluminium board (with winkeys)?

    Do I bring dishonour to my family if I said I feel like selling my hhkb for a full size RF?

    To me the feel is more depends on the plate than the case. 

    The first one came to my mind is LZ-trikx.  I am not sure it has winkey or not.  The second is Cherry MX6.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Tue, 13 October 2015, 00:48:48
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 13 October 2015, 00:26:41
    Quote from: nmur on Mon, 12 October 2015, 23:06:25
    What does it feel like to type on ergo clears mounted in a heavy-ass aluminium board (OTD, LZ, KMAC, etc)? I've tried neither.

    What would be the first choice that comes to your mind if I asked you about a full-size aluminium board (with winkeys)?

    Do I bring dishonour to my family if I said I feel like selling my hhkb for a full size RF?

    To me the feel is more depends on the plate than the case. 

    The first one came to my mind is LZ-trikx.  I am not sure it has winkey or not.  The second is Cherry MX6.0

    hey thanks

    Yeah I guess now that I think about it, the case would probably affect the sound more than it would affect the feel.

    That LZ-tirks looks pretty nice, albeit not too exciting. I might consider getting a TKL (so many more options) and a seperate numpad or something. This is if I ever hypothetically decided to spend the $$$$
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 13 October 2015, 07:31:51
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 11 October 2015, 22:07:57
    Solvents and abrasives are not recommended by any means.

    Solvents and abrasives are the last resort, of course.

    The Mr Clean white erasers are pretty good, but they will take the texture off a surface surprisingly fast.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 October 2015, 07:42:50
    Quote from: nmur on Mon, 12 October 2015, 23:06:25
    What does it feel like to type on ergo clears mounted in a heavy-ass aluminium board (OTD, LZ, KMAC, etc)? I've tried neither.

    What would be the first choice that comes to your mind if I asked you about a full-size aluminium board (with winkeys)?

    Do I bring dishonour to my family if I said I feel like selling my hhkb for a full size RF?

    I'd say that plate rigidity makes a greater difference in feeling than any other characteristic of the board overall assembly, along with switches of course. If you use a plate made of steel, plastic, acrylic or aluminum, and its thickness will make a difference in typing sound and feeling that are the key aspects of the typing experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 October 2015, 08:12:07
    Quote from: nmur on Mon, 12 October 2015, 23:06:25
    1) What does it feel like to type on ergo clears mounted in a heavy-ass aluminium board (OTD, LZ, KMAC, etc)? I've tried neither.

    2) What would be the first choice that comes to your mind if I asked you about a full-size aluminium board (with winkeys)?

    3) Do I bring dishonour to my family if I said I feel like selling my hhkb for a full size RF?

    1) I don't have a good review on ergo-clears but here's one on Zealios (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.0) which is similar in feeling to me. In addition, here's a plethora of reviews and threads on this topic (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=site:geekhack.org+what+do+ergo+clears+feel+like). I also agree that the feeling depends a lot on the case and keycaps used.


    2) In addition to the two options Johnathanyu listed, there was this aftermarket case (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1390512#msg1390512) for Filcos. There's not many options.


    3) I don't understand. Do you. If you like full size, get a full size. Why do you care what others think?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 13 October 2015, 13:20:08
    By any chance an european supplier for http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=78 in small size ?
    Looking for the same or something similar in quality ?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 October 2015, 16:19:59
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 13 October 2015, 13:20:08
    By any chance an european supplier for http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=78 in small size ?
    Looking for the same or something similar in quality ?

    Thanks

    lpwl (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62935.0) had a ton. Apparently lpwl has sold out but you can ask. That's all I can think of though. I'd try asking DT too just in case. This forum is definitely CONUS skewed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ika on Tue, 13 October 2015, 17:59:03
    Anyone know how to get a replacement spring for a Topre spacebar? Apparently the previous owner for my Realforce lost it or something, because I don't have a spring under my spacebar. Also apparently I need the spring to make the PBT spacebars return properly. Not sure if Topre sells replacements or where I can fashion a replacement with roughly the same weight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 October 2015, 19:36:21
    Quote from: ika on Tue, 13 October 2015, 17:59:03
    Anyone know how to get a replacement spring for a Topre spacebar? Apparently the previous owner for my Realforce lost it or something, because I don't have a spring under my spacebar. Also apparently I need the spring to make the PBT spacebars return properly. Not sure if Topre sells replacements or where I can fashion a replacement with roughly the same weight.

    Classifieds is probably your best bet. I'm not aware of any vendors that sell those springs as a spare part.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 October 2015, 21:33:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 October 2015, 19:36:21
    Quote from: ika on Tue, 13 October 2015, 17:59:03
    Anyone know how to get a replacement spring for a Topre spacebar? Apparently the previous owner for my Realforce lost it or something, because I don't have a spring under my spacebar. Also apparently I need the spring to make the PBT spacebars return properly. Not sure if Topre sells replacements or where I can fashion a replacement with roughly the same weight.

    Classifieds is probably your best bet. I'm not aware of any vendors that sell those springs as a spare part.

    Unfortunately, the lack of options to replace a single faulty part is the price to pay for using non discrete keyboards . Have you tried the classifieds, or the free stuff threads?.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ika on Tue, 13 October 2015, 21:44:16
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 13 October 2015, 21:33:48
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 October 2015, 19:36:21
    Quote from: ika on Tue, 13 October 2015, 17:59:03
    Anyone know how to get a replacement spring for a Topre spacebar? Apparently the previous owner for my Realforce lost it or something, because I don't have a spring under my spacebar. Also apparently I need the spring to make the PBT spacebars return properly. Not sure if Topre sells replacements or where I can fashion a replacement with roughly the same weight.

    Classifieds is probably your best bet. I'm not aware of any vendors that sell those springs as a spare part.

    Unfortunately, the lack of options to replace a single faulty part is the price to pay for using non discrete keyboards . Have you tried the classifieds, or the free stuff threads?.

    Haven't tried Classifieds yet but from a few google searches I see this question asked a lot with no concrete answers. I've just been reaching out to see what my options are. Spamray mentioned springs from an old foam and foil keyboard, anyone got one to try out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 14 October 2015, 14:42:48
    If I'm looking for cool Alps caps what boards should I look for? ANSI really isn't an issue because none of my layouts are standard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 14 October 2015, 17:21:24
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 14 October 2015, 14:42:48
    If I'm looking for cool Alps caps what boards should I look for? ANSI really isn't an issue because none of my layouts are standard.

    APC and Clicker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 October 2015, 20:42:44
    Quote from: ika on Tue, 13 October 2015, 21:44:16
    Spamray mentioned springs from an old foam and foil keyboard, anyone got one to try out?

    Please use the classifieds to try and get a spring. I don't want this to be a place to circumvent the classfifieds.

    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Wed, 14 October 2015, 14:42:48
    If I'm looking for cool Alps caps what boards should I look for? ANSI really isn't an issue because none of my layouts are standard.

    I forget the model but Toshiba laptops have Dolch-alike Alps caps.

    I like Wang 724, 725 the dye-sub caps.

    The Apple AEK/AEK2 and Dell AT101 caps are surprisingly good.

    My favorite caps are still the ones I found in Classifieds. They're Taiwanese layout Acer 6131 caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:03:55
    Is there an alternate controller for the RF 87u that allows you to reprogram the keys like Hasu's one for the HHKB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:05:41
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:03:55
    Is there an alternate controller for the RF 87u that allows you to reprogram the keys like Hasu's one for the HHKB?

    Hasu is working on one that might eventually lead to something. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76040.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:08:25
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:05:41
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:03:55
    Is there an alternate controller for the RF 87u that allows you to reprogram the keys like Hasu's one for the HHKB?

    Hasu is working on one that might eventually lead to something. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76040.0

    Thanks man!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 11:47:29
    Where do you buy stand-off led? I need some for Phantom.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 October 2015, 11:56:22
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 11:47:29
    Where do you buy stand-off led? I need some for Phantom.

    See bottom of this OP -> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46758.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 11:59:53
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 October 2015, 11:56:22
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 11:47:29
    Where do you buy stand-off led? I need some for Phantom.

    See bottom of this OP -> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46758.0

    Thanks ray. I pm'ed jonathanyu.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 22:57:41
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 23:07:35
    Are there any Alps artisans available right now besides the ones that bcredbottle is working on?

    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 22:57:41
    I'm pretty sure these are dampened cream alps, but some click.  Any thoughts?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/VTa4Tnv.jpg)


    Definitely damped, you can see the notches on the sides. They shouldn't click unless someone replaced them with non-damped switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 23:11:41
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Fri, 16 October 2015, 00:54:02
    can i build a custom keyboard without diode? nkro is not a quirement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 16 October 2015, 04:27:43
    Quote from: pabile on Fri, 16 October 2015, 00:54:02
    can i build a custom keyboard without diode? nkro is not a quirement.

    If you 're not use diodes, switchs isn't work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Fri, 16 October 2015, 06:21:59
    oh! thanks quochung!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 16 October 2015, 07:39:07
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Fri, 16 October 2015, 04:27:43
    Quote from: pabile on Fri, 16 October 2015, 00:54:02
    can i build a custom keyboard without diode? nkro is not a quirement.

    If you 're not use diodes, switchs isn't work.
    This is wrong. You can replace diodes with jumper wires and it will work fine, just with ghosting issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 16 October 2015, 07:41:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:05:41
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:03:55
    Is there an alternate controller for the RF 87u that allows you to reprogram the keys like Hasu's one for the HHKB?

    Hasu is working on one that might eventually lead to something. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76040.0
    In the meantime, his USB to USB converter will work. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 16 October 2015, 07:46:21
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 16 October 2015, 07:41:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:05:41
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 15 October 2015, 08:03:55
    Is there an alternate controller for the RF 87u that allows you to reprogram the keys like Hasu's one for the HHKB?

    Hasu is working on one that might eventually lead to something. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76040.0
    In the meantime, his USB to USB converter will work. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0
    Had not even considered that. Great idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 October 2015, 08:14:45
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 23:07:35
    Are there any Alps artisans available right now besides the ones that bcredbottle is working on?

    There's a handful of novelty Alps caps floating around out there but there's nothing easily available or new besides bcredbottle's stuff. Previously, do_og@n had painted some Alps caps and there were some Geekhack and MK.com Alps caps. Oh I think SP has a red escape too.

    Been dreaming of nice Alps novelties for years now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 16 October 2015, 08:20:45
    Quote from: njbair on Fri, 16 October 2015, 07:39:07
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Fri, 16 October 2015, 04:27:43
    Quote from: pabile on Fri, 16 October 2015, 00:54:02
    can i build a custom keyboard without diode? nkro is not a quirement.

    If you 're not use diodes, switchs isn't work.
    This is wrong. You can replace diodes with jumper wires and it will work fine, just with ghosting issues.

    Ok. thanks for showing me. I don't think this way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 16 October 2015, 13:59:32

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 October 2015, 08:14:45
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 23:07:35
    Are there any Alps artisans available right now besides the ones that bcredbottle is working on?

    There's a handful of novelty Alps caps floating around out there but there's nothing easily available or new besides bcredbottle's stuff. Previously, do_og@n had painted some Alps caps and there were some Geekhack and MK.com Alps caps. Oh I think SP has a red escape too.

    Been dreaming of nice Alps novelties for years now.

    Nubs has done a lot of work with alps too!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 October 2015, 16:03:35
    (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/17/cfaf6100f1faee1fcbd7b064918912a0.jpg)

    Anybody know what language these represent?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 17 October 2015, 20:26:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 October 2015, 16:03:35
    Show Image
    (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/17/cfaf6100f1faee1fcbd7b064918912a0.jpg)


    Anybody know what language these represent?

    Looks like Thai.

    Also pretty sure the caps are upside down in the pic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 17 October 2015, 23:41:43
    Is there anywhere to source new F springs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 18 October 2015, 00:05:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 17 October 2015, 23:41:43
    Is there anywhere to source new F springs?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 17 October 2015, 20:26:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 October 2015, 16:03:35
    Show Image
    (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/17/cfaf6100f1faee1fcbd7b064918912a0.jpg)


    Anybody know what language these represent?

    Looks like Thai.

    Also pretty sure the caps are upside down in the pic.

    I agree.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 18 October 2015, 00:07:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 18 October 2015, 00:05:33
    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 17 October 2015, 23:41:43
    Is there anywhere to source new F springs?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 17 October 2015, 20:26:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 October 2015, 16:03:35
    Show Image
    (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/17/cfaf6100f1faee1fcbd7b064918912a0.jpg)


    Anybody know what language these represent?

    Looks like Thai.

    Also pretty sure the caps are upside down in the pic.

    I agree.

    Thanks cpt, I just sent a pm to Ellipse.  I am doing a spill restoration project and fount 3/4 of the springs rusty.  The spill managed to get under the barrel plate, both sides of the pcb, and below the mylar sheet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 18 October 2015, 10:19:47
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Sun, 18 October 2015, 11:07:27
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 15 October 2015, 23:07:35
    Are there any Alps artisans available right now besides the ones that bcredbottle is working on?


    AFAIK it's currently just nubbinator and me. Quality-wise, I'm not really a legit artisan though. Nubs makes sale-quality caps while I'm more of an amateur/weekend warrior. The only thing that's better about my caps is that they'll always be free  :)

    BlueNalgene is working on some artisan Alps so maybe you can PM him; I bet he'd like to hear the interest/encouragement. Hopefully in the future we'll see Alps caps routinely included in artisan sales the way Topre caps are now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:45:57
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:46:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:45:57
    how to use animated gif?

    For what? Your avatar or just in a post?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:47:25
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:49:05
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:47:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:46:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:45:57
    how to use animated gif?

    For what? Your avatar or just in a post?

    avatar

    Make sure the avatar isn't bigger than 150x150 pixels. You might have to scale it to 100x100 pixels (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60019.msg1380793#msg1380793).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:52:03
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raymogi on Mon, 19 October 2015, 07:35:59
    What's the 2 dipswitches on the 360 Corsa for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Tue, 20 October 2015, 04:19:54
    Desoldered almost all switches off my v60, but it seems like there's still something that sticks top plate to the PCB. What could it be? Cherry-style stabilisers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 04:29:18
    What PS2 to USB converter should I buy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Tue, 20 October 2015, 05:49:31
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 04:29:18
    What PS2 to USB converter should I buy?

    I bought such a converter only once, but I'm pretty sure you gotta look for active converters, i.e. the one that actually translates you keyboard's signals from PS/2 to USB instead of just rewiring them. I used this small guide when I got mine: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11298/subcatid/0/id/124184
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Tue, 20 October 2015, 06:04:38
    can Alps SKCM Cream Damped somehow be mixed with Alps SKCL Green, to create dampened green alps..?

    because i don't like the tactility of alps switches at all, but i do dig that mild dampening that the cream damped have...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 20 October 2015, 08:32:42
    Is there still no source for 55g Topre springs? Outside of other Topre keyboards, that is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 October 2015, 08:52:24
    Quote from: apolotary on Tue, 20 October 2015, 04:19:54
    Desoldered almost all switches off my v60, but it seems like there's still something that sticks top plate to the PCB. What could it be? Cherry-style stabilisers?

    Could you take a picture?

    Quote from: quochung1989 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 04:29:18
    What PS2 to USB converter should I buy?

    I like the ones from TechKeys.us.

    Quote from: Bucake on Tue, 20 October 2015, 06:04:38
    can Alps SKCM Cream Damped somehow be mixed with Alps SKCL Green, to create dampened green alps..?

    because i don't like the tactility of alps switches at all, but i do dig that mild dampening that the cream damped have...

    Yes. Or you could just remove the leaf that makes the cream Alps have the tactility. That would be much easier.

    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 20 October 2015, 08:32:42
    Is there still no source for 55g Topre springs? Outside of other Topre keyboards, that is.

    Not that I know of, no.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Tue, 20 October 2015, 08:56:41
    Quote from: apolotary on Tue, 20 October 2015, 04:19:54
    Desoldered almost all switches off my v60, but it seems like there's still something that sticks top plate to the PCB. What could it be? Cherry-style stabilisers?

    Wait, almost? If you haven't desoldered every single switch, the plate and PCB cannot separate...Or am I missing something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 October 2015, 09:20:21
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 20 October 2015, 08:32:42
    Is there still no source for 55g Topre springs? Outside of other Topre keyboards, that is.

    Do you mean 55g Topre domes?  The springs don't vary across the different weighted models, just the domes.  To answer the question, no.  :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 20 October 2015, 09:25:40
    Whatever it is. As long as I can't change it there's no reason to learn how ☺
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 09:41:15
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 04:29:18
    What PS2 to USB converter should I buy?

    I bought several of these and they work great.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I97N1M/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Tue, 20 October 2015, 09:46:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 October 2015, 08:52:24
    Quote from: apolotary on Tue, 20 October 2015, 04:19:54
    Desoldered almost all switches off my v60, but it seems like there's still something that sticks top plate to the PCB. What could it be? Cherry-style stabilisers?

    Could you take a picture?


    Sorry I have only one before desoldering (https://i.imgur.com/ZFeGlNw.jpg), but I'll take another shot tomorrow
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 11:23:37
    Great guys. Thanks for supporting :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 20 October 2015, 15:55:18
    I'm installing my zealios on a plate mounted board, it is a little hard to keep them on the plate while trying to push from under in order to make the nibs go into the pcb, I'm wondering if I'm doing it wrong?  Is installing pcb mounted switches to a plate generally a hassle?  I think I might be better off just clipping them...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 October 2015, 15:56:28
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 20 October 2015, 15:55:18
    I'm installing my zealios on a plate mounted board, it is a little hard to keep them on the plate while trying to push from under in order to make the nibs go into the pcb, I'm wondering if I'm doing it wrong?  Is installing pcb mounted switches to a plate generally a hassle?  I think I might be better off just clipping them...

    What PCB are you using? Some PCB's have a slightly smaller hole for the legs and you have to use a little more force to get the gateron switches in.

    Zeal's post about that

    Quote from: Zeal on Mon, 19 October 2015, 21:26:33
    Quote from: VentureG on Mon, 19 October 2015, 19:20:45
    The plate arrived and I learned how to solder. Beautiful switches - a pleasure to work with. The new gateron mold for the tops is great (I've only had experience with the ones that had that catching issue). PCB mount pins are a bit tight on my FaceW but not a big deal. Only vexing issue I had was with the space bar switch which stuck a bit - bit of lube fixed it right up.

    Great stuff, Zeal!

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Fpu074L.jpg)


    Thanks for sharing! Winkeyless/Sprit PCBs have a slightly smaller PCB mount hole meant for Cherry switches, so that's why they feel tighter. On other boards with "standard" holes, they fit in perfectly snug.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 20 October 2015, 19:55:46
    What is the first artisan keycap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 21:49:43
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 20 October 2015, 19:55:46
    What is the first artisan keycap?

    I guess that depends on your definition. You could argue that the old skull key from this is an artisan, which would completely change the answer.

    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/24289)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 20 October 2015, 21:55:55
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 21:49:43
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 20 October 2015, 19:55:46
    What is the first artisan keycap?

    I guess that depends on your definition. You could argue that the old skull key from this is an artisan, which would completely change the answer.

    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/resources/image/24289)


    I mean artisan keycaps like cc or bb, sorry for the confusion
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 October 2015, 04:50:41
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 04:29:18
    What PS2 to USB converter should I buy?

    I have used these (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/usb-to-ps2-serial-multimode-adapter) to successfully connect all sorts of keyboards to a Mac.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 21 October 2015, 07:24:42
    Yes. I bought one too. I'm waiting it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 October 2015, 07:56:57
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 20 October 2015, 21:55:55
    What is the first artisan keycap?

    Again, depends on your definition. I'm sure there were DIY projects where people made their own caps to fit projects kinda like what kurplop does on his boards. A DIY novelty cap though? I'd guess Clacks but I don't really know for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MrhandSlap on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:31:43
    Does a left handed version of the MX 3.0 key exist? Or is there a way to make one ?

    Key points of interest
    - Mx Cherry Red switches
    - No metal hinges, all switches
    - Low profile keys
    - Arrow keys and numpad on left side.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:41:22
    Quote from: MrhandSlap on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:31:43
    Does a left handed version of the MX 3.0 key exist? Or is there a way to make one ?

    Key points of interest
    - Mx Cherry Red switches
    - No metal hinges, all switches
    - Low profile keys
    - Arrow keys and numpad on left side.

    The simple answer is No.

    However almost anything is possible given enough interest and determination.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Wed, 21 October 2015, 18:32:02
    Is there a list of keyboards that have Gateron Purple Zealio switches? Preferably anything under 100% size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 October 2015, 18:45:03
    Quote from: Vozella on Wed, 21 October 2015, 18:32:02
    Is there a list of keyboards that have Gateron Purple Zealio switches? Preferably anything under 100% size.
    They're only offered as an aftermarket switch. They probably won't be included in any stock boards. I bet zeal will do bundles with customs like drhubblephd's board but nothing you could get from say mk.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Wed, 21 October 2015, 19:05:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 October 2015, 18:45:03
    Quote from: Vozella on Wed, 21 October 2015, 18:32:02
    Is there a list of keyboards that have Gateron Purple Zealio switches? Preferably anything under 100% size.
    They're only offered as an aftermarket switch. They probably won't be included in any stock boards. I bet zeal will do bundles with customs like drhubblephd's board but nothing you could get from say mk.com

    Alright. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Wed, 21 October 2015, 20:34:20
    What type of LEDs are the ones that go on to the MX Cherry switches and where can I buy them? I'm looking for white one's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Wed, 21 October 2015, 20:35:39
    Quote from: Vozella on Wed, 21 October 2015, 20:34:20
    What type of LEDs are the ones that go on to the MX Cherry switches and where can I buy them? I'm looking for white one's.

    Check FAQ in OP, there's plenty of info, reseller depends on your location.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 October 2015, 20:35:46
    Quote from: Vozella on Wed, 21 October 2015, 20:34:20
    What type of LEDs are the ones that go on to the MX Cherry switches and where can I buy them? I'm looking for white one's.

    This question is covered in the OP (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_RR).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SamFlynn on Wed, 21 October 2015, 22:16:22
    Quote from: MrhandSlap on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:31:43
    Does a left handed version of the MX 3.0 key exist? Or is there a way to make one ?

    Key points of interest
    - Mx Cherry Red switches
    - No metal hinges, all switches
    - Low profile keys
    - Arrow keys and numpad on left side.

    Full keyboard inversion. Brain remap for keyplace would be challenging, but the tricky part will be hitting the spacebar quickly while typing.  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Thu, 22 October 2015, 07:04:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 October 2015, 08:52:24
    Quote from: Bucake on Tue, 20 October 2015, 06:04:38
    can Alps SKCM Cream Damped somehow be mixed with Alps SKCL Green, to create dampened green alps..?

    because i don't like the tactility of alps switches at all, but i do dig that mild dampening that the cream damped have...

    Yes. Or you could just remove the leaf that makes the cream Alps have the tactility. That would be much easier.

    didn't realize that the leaf had no purpose besides offer tactility. i figured it also contributed to holding the switch together or something.. not really sure why i even thought so :D

    thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 22 October 2015, 12:17:20
    I'm currently slowly but surely getting the stuff together for 5 60% keyboards. Work, Home, Extra and possibly two I'll end up either selling or giving away to friends. No idea how I ended up with parts for five keyboards on the way, it just happened that way...

    Anywho, I don't have any of the PCBs yet, but I have three plates of two different makes, and one case, and neither of the plates will stick to the case due to the heads of the M2 screws being FAR smaller than the holes in the plates. From this I assume that I'm meant to screw the PCB to the case and just let the switches take care of making the plate and PCB stick together, which makes sense.

    Am I making an ass out of u and i both, or is this how it's meant to be?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:46:22
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 22 October 2015, 12:17:20
    Anywho, I don't have any of the PCBs yet, but I have three plates of two different makes, and one case, and neither of the plates will stick to the case due to the heads of the M2 screws being FAR smaller than the holes in the plates. From this I assume that I'm meant to screw the PCB to the case and just let the switches take care of making the plate and PCB stick together, which makes sense.

    Am I making an ass out of u and i both, or is this how it's meant to be?

    Yes you are correct.  You screw the PCB to the case which will then hold everything down since the plate will be attached to the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:47:24
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:46:22

    Yes you are correct.  You screw the PCB to the case which will then hold everything down since the plate will be attached to the PCB.

    Thanks. Then I don't need to look into getting M2 washers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:52:22
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:47:24
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:46:22

    Yes you are correct.  You screw the PCB to the case which will then hold everything down since the plate will be attached to the PCB.

    Thanks. Then I don't need to look into getting M2 washers.

    You can, but there is no need if the screws are holding the plate/pcb to the case securely.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:53:59
    Well, that remains to be seen. Hopefully early next week 😊
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:57:56
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:53:59
    Well, that remains to be seen. Hopefully early next week 😊

    You should be fine with just the screws that come with the case.  I've never had to use washers with the screws that came with any of my 60% cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Thu, 22 October 2015, 19:04:32
    http://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio
    Are these switches for the PCB or for the plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 October 2015, 19:10:21
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 22 October 2015, 19:04:32
    http://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio
    Are these switches for the PCB or for the plate?

    (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Project_Zealio.jpeg?v=1440911987)

    They're PCB mount. You can see the legs in this picture from that page.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Fri, 23 October 2015, 14:50:14
    http://www.bhiner.com/taobao-agent/521491671138

    This is a enjoypbt set, anyone have experience with them?  I selected engraved black that's black on black right?  Are these as smooth as bsp?  Are these as good/smooth as ivan's pbt gb's which I gather are vortex?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 October 2015, 15:26:43
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Fri, 23 October 2015, 14:50:14
    http://www.bhiner.com/taobao-agent/521491671138

    This is a enjoypbt set, anyone have experience with them?  I selected engraved black that's black on black right?  Are these as smooth as bsp?  Are these as good/smooth as ivan's pbt gb's which I gather are vortex?

    I have no experience with these but if they're engraved and not infilled, I don't seen how they'd feel as smooth as BSP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Fri, 23 October 2015, 15:36:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 October 2015, 15:26:43
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Fri, 23 October 2015, 14:50:14
    http://www.bhiner.com/taobao-agent/521491671138

    This is a enjoypbt set, anyone have experience with them?  I selected engraved black that's black on black right?  Are these as smooth as bsp?  Are these as good/smooth as ivan's pbt gb's which I gather are vortex?

    I have no experience with these but if they're engraved and not infilled, I don't seen how they'd feel as smooth as BSP.

    I was under the impression that they were dyesubbed, and this engraved thing was just an tabao translation engrish.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 October 2015, 15:45:26
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Fri, 23 October 2015, 15:36:14
    I was under the impression that they were dyesubbed, and this engraved thing was just an tabao translation engrish.

    I have no idea.


    Quote from: asgeirtj on Fri, 23 October 2015, 14:50:14
    http://www.bhiner.com/taobao-agent/521491671138

    This is a enjoypbt set, anyone have experience with them?  I selected engraved black that's black on black right?  Are these as smooth as bsp?  Are these as good/smooth as ivan's pbt gb's which I gather are vortex?

    A quick search pops these threads up:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67302.msg1770914#msg1770914
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1807434#msg1807434
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1822643#msg1822643

    If these posts are correct and they're caps made by Gateron, here's a review from infiniti:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71690.0

    And here's some Gateron dyesub cap links that I found really fast:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74180.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74163.0

    Again, I have no personal experience with the caps nor do I know what you bought.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Fri, 23 October 2015, 16:03:26
    Has someone an archive of https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=4992.0 by any chance ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 October 2015, 16:09:12
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Fri, 23 October 2015, 16:03:26
    Has someone an archive of https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=4992.0 by any chance ?

    I tried using Archive.org (https://archive.org/web/) but it's not saved there :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 17:49:42
    Is retrobrite harmful to PBT or Dye-sublimed ink? I'm wondering if it'd be a bad idea to retrobrite my Dell AT101 (US FCC ID) caps. Don't want to ruin anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 23 October 2015, 18:43:01
    Quote from: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 17:49:42
    Is retrobrite harmful to PBT or Dye-sublimed ink? I'm wondering if it'd be a bad idea to retrobrite my Dell AT101 (US FCC ID) caps. Don't want to ruin anything.

    I don't thing so, but then I don't know of any case where you would need to.  PBT doesn't yellow like ABS does.  Though II have been wrong before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 23 October 2015, 18:47:41
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:19:50
    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 23 October 2015, 18:47:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 23 October 2015, 18:43:01
    Quote from: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 17:49:42
    Is retrobrite harmful to PBT or Dye-sublimed ink? I'm wondering if it'd be a bad idea to retrobrite my Dell AT101 (US FCC ID) caps. Don't want to ruin anything.

    I don't thing so, but then I don't know of any case where you would need to.  PBT doesn't yellow like ABS does.  Though II have been wrong before.

    I agree. My desko pbt is white vs. yellow abs in there.

    Thank you, good sirs. Well, having retrobrited another set of (ABS) caps from a vintage board, they're a very bright, pretty white. My AEK and these AT101 caps aren't as white as they are.  It's not necessary though, but if it wouldn't hurt, then I'd give it a go. If these can brighten up the way ABS can, that'd be amazing, but this might just be the natural color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:29:46
    Quote from: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 17:49:42
    PBT doesn't yellow like ABS does.  Though I have been wrong before.

    Are you sure that these are PBT? The vast majority of AT101s that I have owned (quite a few) had ABS.

    The acetone test is the easy way to tell in 2 seconds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:51:41
    Quote from: tfohat.digs on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:29:46
    Quote from: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 17:49:42
    PBT doesn't yellow like ABS does.  Though I have been wrong before.

    Are you sure that these are PBT? The vast majority of AT101s that I have owned (quite a few) had ABS.

    The acetone test is the easy way to tell in 2 seconds.

    Yes, they aren't nasty smoker yellowed, just not glaring white dwarf white. It's said that PBT can yellow, just not anywhere near as fast as ABS.

    This is the original US-made AT101 with Salmon Alps, not the sort made by Silitek.  I just finished with an acetone test and the paint brush's laquer melted before anything on the cap did. No degradation at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:40:27
    Quote from: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:51:41

    Yes, they aren't nasty smoker yellowed, just not glaring white dwarf white.


    My Dells have pearl/pebble-like coloring that is darker and duller than its IBM counterparts.

    Let us know how it works. Retro-brite has always been unpredictable and hit-or-miss for me.
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:44:38
    This may be a stupid question, but here goes.  I see that other people have run polls, but I don't see how to do that.  Is it only Mods who can create polls or am I able to as well?

    For my pm_search tool, I am curious how many people use labels for their PMs.  Ideally I would be able to create a poll in that thread to collect that info to better guide if that is actually a feature I should try to address in the tool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:51:47
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:44:38
    This may be a stupid question, but here goes.  I see that other people have run polls, but I don't see how to do that.  Is it only Mods who can create polls or am I able to as well?

    For my pm_search tool, I am curious how many people use labels for their PMs.  Ideally I would be able to create a poll in that thread to collect that info to better guide if that is actually a feature I should try to address in the tool.

    I use labels, but not sure how many others do.

    The option to embed a poll is in a new topic post, but I don't think it is in a reply to existing post.

    Edit: well now I'm confused or wrong, because the poll option is not there when I went to verify it. I really could have sworn it was there last time. :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 22:09:37
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:51:47
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:44:38
    This may be a stupid question, but here goes.  I see that other people have run polls, but I don't see how to do that.  Is it only Mods who can create polls or am I able to as well?

    For my pm_search tool, I am curious how many people use labels for their PMs.  Ideally I would be able to create a poll in that thread to collect that info to better guide if that is actually a feature I should try to address in the tool.

    I use labels, but not sure how many others do.

    The option to embed a poll is in a new topic post, but I don't think it is in a reply to existing post.

    Edit: well now I'm confused or wrong, because the poll option is not there when I went to verify it. I really could have sworn it was there last time. :confused:
    Haha. Ya that's what happened to me too. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Faeja on Fri, 23 October 2015, 22:11:50
    I can only find two places with the leopold fc750r, which are widebasket on ebay and mechanicalkeyboards. It's $170 from widebasket for a 750r with browns but it's only $114 on mechanicalkeyboards, catch is, mechanicalkeyboards doesn't have browns, only reds. The price difference and faster shipping is really making me think about just buying reds. Convince me pls D: I've tried reds and browns a long time ago and only vaguely remember their feel, does the brown's bump make that much of a difference when typing? I will use the keyboard for doing lots of homework and playing starcraft(rts).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 23 October 2015, 22:14:03
    Quote from: Faeja on Fri, 23 October 2015, 22:11:50
    I can only find two places with the leopold fc750r, which are widebasket on ebay and mechanicalkeyboards. It's $170 from widebasket for a 750r with browns but it's only $114 on mechanicalkeyboards, catch is, mechanicalkeyboards doesn't have browns, only reds. The price difference and faster shipping is really making me think about just buying reds. Convince me pls D: I've tried reds and browns a long time ago and only vaguely remember their feel, does the brown's bump make that much of a difference when typing? I will use the keyboard for doing lots of homework and playing starcraft(rts).

    If you will play with it reds make sense. The brown's scratchiness is not the best feeling for repetitive typing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 22:32:54
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 23 October 2015, 22:14:03
    Quote from: Faeja on Fri, 23 October 2015, 22:11:50
    I can only find two places with the leopold fc750r, which are widebasket on ebay and mechanicalkeyboards. It's $170 from widebasket for a 750r with browns but it's only $114 on mechanicalkeyboards, catch is, mechanicalkeyboards doesn't have browns, only reds. The price difference and faster shipping is really making me think about just buying reds. Convince me pls D: I've tried reds and browns a long time ago and only vaguely remember their feel, does the brown's bump make that much of a difference when typing? I will use the keyboard for doing lots of homework and playing starcraft(rts).

    If you will play with it reds make sense. The brown's scratchiness is not the best feeling for repetitive typing.

    What is this scratchiness you speak of?  I use browns all the time and they are only scratchy for the first 2-3 weeks before you break them in.  Then they are buttery...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 23 October 2015, 22:47:11
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 22:09:37
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:51:47
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:44:38
    This may be a stupid question, but here goes.  I see that other people have run polls, but I don't see how to do that.  Is it only Mods who can create polls or am I able to as well?

    For my pm_search tool, I am curious how many people use labels for their PMs.  Ideally I would be able to create a poll in that thread to collect that info to better guide if that is actually a feature I should try to address in the tool.

    I use labels, but not sure how many others do.

    The option to embed a poll is in a new topic post, but I don't think it is in a reply to existing post.

    Edit: well now I'm confused or wrong, because the poll option is not there when I went to verify it. I really could have sworn it was there last time. :confused:
    Haha. Ya that's what happened to me too. :)

    I don't have access to those settings so I can't check, but polls might be enabled only for some subforums.

    PM me if you want one set up and I can do it now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 24 October 2015, 00:21:47
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:40:27
    Quote from: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:51:41

    Yes, they aren't nasty smoker yellowed, just not glaring white dwarf white.


    My Dells have pearl/pebble-like coloring that is darker and duller than its IBM counterparts.

    Let us know how it works. Retro-brite has always been unpredictable and hit-or-miss for me.

    Thanks for the info, fohat. I think you're definitely right on this one. I might abstain from trying to retrobrite them as I do believe that the color might be normal for the plastic. Wouldn't want to hurt an already brittle plastic with retrobrite.  :-X Maybe on caps from an easier to find board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:08:30
    Is there an OG Cherry set in DS WoB with 1.5 modifiers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:46:41
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:08:30
    Is there an OG Cherry set in DS WoB with 1.5 modifiers?

    I think some 1800s have that setup.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:53:50
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Barracuda on Sat, 24 October 2015, 18:12:13
    I don't know if this is the right way to ask but I was wondering something.
    Is there a 60% PCB (layout like poker) that fully supports RGB leds (on-pcb and in-switch) that would fit in a GON Nerd 60 case?
    Starting to maybe make plans for my dreamboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 October 2015, 18:16:14
    Quote from: Barracuda on Sat, 24 October 2015, 18:12:13
    I don't know if this is the right way to ask but I was wondering something.
    Is there a 60% PCB (layout like poker) that fully supports RGB leds (on-pcb and in-switch) that would fit in a GON Nerd 60 case?
    Starting to maybe make plans for my dreamboard

    Looks like the winkeyless PCBs fit your criteria. The b. series PCBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Barracuda on Sun, 25 October 2015, 08:18:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 24 October 2015, 18:16:14
    Quote from: Barracuda on Sat, 24 October 2015, 18:12:13
    I don't know if this is the right way to ask but I was wondering something.
    Is there a 60% PCB (layout like poker) that fully supports RGB leds (on-pcb and in-switch) that would fit in a GON Nerd 60 case?
    Starting to maybe make plans for my dreamboard

    Looks like the winkeyless PCBs fit your criteria. The b. series PCBs.

    Do those PCBs support RGB in-switch leds? (like you would use with zealios)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 25 October 2015, 18:47:07
    Quote from: Barracuda on Sun, 25 October 2015, 08:18:35
    Do those PCBs support RGB in-switch leds? (like you would use with zealios)

    From the tiny pictures (http://winkeyless.kr/product/b-mini-ex-x2-pcb/), I'd guess yes. Looks more likely to be SMD. I'm not 100% though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 26 October 2015, 18:47:52
    Have there ever been any proper attempts on GH or other keyboard forums to make a small keypad - maybe a 4x4 key array (possibly even smaller) that's completely programmable - kind of like an unsculpted razer orbweaver. Does anyone think they would be interested in something like this depending on the price?


    Just asking because my friend has got a new lathe and we're both interested in building something keyboard related with it but have to work with quite a small build area
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: slushi on Mon, 26 October 2015, 19:46:18
    Hey guys,

    I just received a used Duck Eagle and was trying to flash the board. I have the 02D keymapper, flip, and the dfu-programmer. However, when I get to the step to connect the 02D keymapper to the DFU Programmer (by selecting firmware upload in the file menu), it keeps saying DFU Programmer not found. Can anyone help me out?

    EDIT:

    Nvm, I figured it out. The DFU programmer I downloaded had the .exe program sitting outside of the dfuprog-usb-1.2.2 folder. Just had move the exe to that path so that 02D would detect it since it only searches its own parent path.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 October 2015, 20:31:03
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Mon, 26 October 2015, 18:47:52
    Have there ever been any proper attempts on GH or other keyboard forums to make a small keypad - maybe a 4x4 key array (possibly even smaller) that's completely programmable - kind of like an unsculpted razer orbweaver. Does anyone think they would be interested in something like this depending on the price?


    Just asking because my friend has got a new lathe and we're both interested in building something keyboard related with it but have to work with quite a small build area

    GHPad, Butterfly Keypad, and there was a Korean custom keypad. I forget who made it. I like metalliqaz's QazPad custom (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61306.0) though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coff_man on Mon, 26 October 2015, 23:02:08
    What keyboards are there that look like the corsair k70 (fullsized) but have a standard bottom spacing and ansi layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: slushi on Mon, 26 October 2015, 23:16:46
    One more question about the Duck Eagle:

    I just installed all the LEDs in the SIP sockets and it seems the Right Gui (winkey), FN, and Ctrl keys won't light up. Since I bought the board used, I didn't install the sip sockets myself.

    I've rotated through all of the different LED settings (i think). Is there a setting on the Eagle/Viper that turns off the bottom right 3 modifier LEDs? The keys themselves work.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 23:35:28
    Quote from: Coff_man on Mon, 26 October 2015, 23:02:08
    What keyboards are there that look like the corsair k70 (fullsized) but have a standard bottom spacing and ansi layout?

    If by looking alike you mean the floating keys, the Varmilo VA87M is very similar but is TKL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 27 October 2015, 02:45:43

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 26 October 2015, 20:31:03
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Mon, 26 October 2015, 18:47:52
    Have there ever been any proper attempts on GH or other keyboard forums to make a small keypad - maybe a 4x4 key array (possibly even smaller) that's completely programmable - kind of like an unsculpted razer orbweaver. Does anyone think they would be interested in something like this depending on the price?


    Just asking because my friend has got a new lathe and we're both interested in building something keyboard related with it but have to work with quite a small build area

    GHPad, Butterfly Keypad, and there was a Korean custom keypad. I forget who made it. I like metalliqaz's QazPad custom (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61306.0) though.

    Thanks badass :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 October 2015, 08:14:08
    Quote from: slushi on Mon, 26 October 2015, 23:16:46
    One more question about the Duck Eagle:

    I just installed all the LEDs in the SIP sockets and it seems the Right Gui (winkey), FN, and Ctrl keys won't light up. Since I bought the board used, I didn't install the sip sockets myself.

    I've rotated through all of the different LED settings (i think). Is there a setting on the Eagle/Viper that turns off the bottom right 3 modifier LEDs? The keys themselves work.

    Thanks!

    If you've got SIP sockets, did you try seeing if the polarity of the LEDs are correct? Are they facing the right way? Did you try swapping in new LEDs to see if you have bad LEDs? I'm not sure what the lighting settings are on the keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: slushi on Tue, 27 October 2015, 09:21:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 October 2015, 08:14:08
    If you've got SIP sockets, did you try seeing if the polarity of the LEDs are correct? Are they facing the right way? Did you try swapping in new LEDs to see if you have bad LEDs? I'm not sure what the lighting settings are on the keyboard.

    Thanks! That was exactly what the problem was. The last 3 had reversed polarity for some reason.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:13:48
    Can someone who knows confirm that the below diodes and resistors (I know this is somewhat color dependent just looking for a general all around resistor) are what I need for a Leeku 3000 PCB?? I'm a complete noob to SMD stuff.

    Also when people buy these do they normally buy like 1000 pieces since its brings the price down? Or is there a better place to buy them like ebay?

    Mouser #:    621-1N4148W-F   
    Mfr. #:    1N4148W-7-F
    Manufacturer:    Diodes Incorporated
    Desc.:    Diodes - General Purpose, Power, Switching 100V Io/150mA T/R
    Packaging Type: Cut Tape (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=1N4148W-7-Fvirtualkey62110000virtualkey621-1N4148W-F)
       
       
    Mouser #:    667-ERJ-6ENF1201V   
    Mfr. #:    ERJ-6ENF1201V
    Manufacturer:    Panasonic
    Desc.:    Thick Film Resistors - SMD 0805 1.2Kohms 1% Tol
    Packaging Type: Cut Tape (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF1201Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF1201V)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:15:57
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:13:48
    Can someone who knows confirm that the below diodes and resistors (I know this is somewhat color dependent just looking for a general all around resistor) are what I need for a Leeku 3000 PCB?? I'm a complete noob to SMD stuff.

    Also when people buy these do they normally buy like 1000 pieces since its brings the price down?

    Mouser #:    621-1N4148W-F   
    Mfr. #:    1N4148W-7-F
    Manufacturer:    Diodes Incorporated
    Desc.:    Diodes - General Purpose, Power, Switching 100V Io/150mA T/R
    Packaging Type: Cut Tape (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=1N4148W-7-Fvirtualkey62110000virtualkey621-1N4148W-F)
       
       
    Mouser #:    667-ERJ-6ENF1201V   
    Mfr. #:    ERJ-6ENF1201V
    Manufacturer:    Panasonic
    Desc.:    Thick Film Resistors - SMD 0805 1.2Kohms 1% Tol
    Packaging Type: Cut Tape (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ERJ-6ENF1201Vvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ERJ-6ENF1201V)

    That looks right. I bought similar parts for my Leeku 1800.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 27 October 2015, 11:59:40
    EBay is rarely cheaper. The opposite in fact.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 October 2015, 12:01:21
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 27 October 2015, 11:59:40
    EBay is rarely cheaper. The opposite in fact.

    What? What are you referring to?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 27 October 2015, 12:02:04
    His question about eBay of course?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 October 2015, 12:03:19
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 27 October 2015, 12:02:04
    His question about eBay of course?

    Completely missed that. My bad. Kinda helps if you quote what you're referring to though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 27 October 2015, 12:05:31
    I'm on Android tapatalk. Sucks! I can quote just fine, but for editing the quoted post and deleting the stuff I don't have am answer to... I'd end up throwing my phone in the wall 😊
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 October 2015, 12:09:48
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 27 October 2015, 12:05:31
    I'm on Android tapatalk. Sucks! I can quote just fine, but for editing the quoted post and deleting the stuff I don't have am answer to... I'd end up throwing my phone in the wall 😊

    I do it all the time. It's a minor inconvenience to me at worst. But no worries. The point isn't to throw it back on you. Definitely just missed that question completely. I agree that eBay isn't always cheaper. I think the Mouser prices were pretty good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 27 October 2015, 12:17:59
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 27 October 2015, 12:05:31
    I'm on Android tapatalk. Sucks! I can quote just fine, but for editing the quoted post and deleting the stuff I don't have am answer to... I'd end up throwing my phone in the wall 😊

    One thing I just learned the other day is you can put @tofgerl and tapatalk will notify that person, so instead of quoting you can do that!

    And thanks for the info @CPTBadAss and @tofgerl I just ordered 120 of each from mouser as I really didn't need more and I don't trust eBay for something I don't want to solder more than once. :D

    Now to go watch GON and see how easy he makes SMD soldering look.  :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 27 October 2015, 16:38:44
    Do cutouts for plate mount cherry stabs support PCB mount cherry stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 October 2015, 16:42:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 27 October 2015, 16:38:44
    Do cutouts for plate mount cherry stabs support PCB mount cherry stabs?

    IIRC, they do. Look through the pictures here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.0) to check out what I was looking at.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 27 October 2015, 19:05:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 October 2015, 16:42:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 27 October 2015, 16:38:44
    Do cutouts for plate mount cherry stabs support PCB mount cherry stabs?

    IIRC, they do. Look through the pictures here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.0) to check out what I was looking at.

    Thanks CBA.  The apprentice again learns from the master.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Tue, 27 October 2015, 22:17:27
    Hopefully a simple question...do half plates exist for 60% keyboards? I have only seen them on TKL or larger kustoms.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 28 October 2015, 08:35:20
    Quote from: jerue on Tue, 27 October 2015, 22:17:27
    Hopefully a simple question...do half plates exist for 60% keyboards? I have only seen them on TKL or larger kustoms.

    I've never seen them. Wouldn't be too hard to make one though with swill's plate tool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 28 October 2015, 11:01:26
    I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but are Model M and Model F springs interchangeable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 28 October 2015, 16:08:24
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 28 October 2015, 11:01:26
    I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but are Model M and Model F springs interchangeable?

    From what I understand they work, but give a totally different feel.  Ymmv
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 28 October 2015, 17:58:59
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 28 October 2015, 11:01:26
    are Model M and Model F springs interchangeable?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 28 October 2015, 18:08:19
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 28 October 2015, 17:58:59
    Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 28 October 2015, 11:01:26
    are Model M and Model F springs interchangeable?

    Confirmed my no, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Wed, 28 October 2015, 21:50:39
    http://zealpc.net/products/zealio
    When will the 62g variant be back in stock? I'd like to buy one of each variant to try them out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 October 2015, 22:03:21
    Quote from: Vozella on Wed, 28 October 2015, 21:50:39
    http://zealpc.net/products/zealio
    When will the 62g variant be back in stock? I'd like to buy one of each variant to try them out.
    Zeal said when he restocks which could be a while, should post in the zelio thread showing your interest.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 28 October 2015, 23:24:45
    Are the Amiga's A1200 key caps Cherry compatible and double shots?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 28 October 2015, 23:30:14
    Does someone know the P/N or Model Nr. of this keyboard? Are these Cherry compatible double shots?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 28 October 2015, 23:54:44
    Here's a simple question for anyone with experience handling Ducks. :P

    Duck's PCBs have diodes, but it seems to have 6KRO over USB. Will USB > PS/2 > USB give these NKRO as I've heard it can do for other boards? I don't have any PCs with PS/2 ports since I use laptops, one being a DTR.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 29 October 2015, 00:48:22
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 28 October 2015, 23:30:14
    Does someone know the P/N or Model Nr. of this keyboard? Are these Cherry compatible double shots?

    can't remember the model number at the moment, but the keycaps are cherry made doubleshots
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 29 October 2015, 06:57:00
    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 28 October 2015, 23:54:44
    Here's a simple question for anyone with experience handling Ducks. :P

    Duck's PCBs have diodes, but it seems to have 6KRO over USB. Will USB > PS/2 > USB give these NKRO as I've heard it can do for other boards? I don't have any PCs with PS/2 ports since I use laptops, one being a DTR.

    The diodes alone should allow for NKRO.  The 6KRO is a USB keyboard device limitation.  Yes there are ways around it, but it adds a fair bit of complexity to the firmware.  While I can't confirm if it will work but just reverting back to PS/2 would be your best bet.  I works on my costar built das, but ymmv.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Thu, 29 October 2015, 07:08:39
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 29 October 2015, 06:57:00
    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 28 October 2015, 23:54:44
    Here's a simple question for anyone with experience handling Ducks. :P

    Duck's PCBs have diodes, but it seems to have 6KRO over USB. Will USB > PS/2 > USB give these NKRO as I've heard it can do for other boards? I don't have any PCs with PS/2 ports since I use laptops, one being a DTR.

    The diodes alone should allow for NKRO.  The 6KRO is a USB keyboard device limitation.  Yes there are ways around it, but it adds a fair bit of complexity to the firmware.  While I can't confirm if it will work but just reverting back to PS/2 would be your best bet.  I works on my costar built das, but ymmv.

    Yeah, I figured that the diodes aren't just there for looks. Definitely must be capable of it. Unfortunately, I can't just use PS/2 as I do not have any ports that allow it. I'll have to see what I can do. I have heard of the ridiculous daisy chain of adapters working, but I'm not so sure about that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 08:16:23
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 28 October 2015, 23:24:45
    Are the Amiga's A1200 key caps Cherry compatible and double shots?

    From the pictures on this page (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Mitsumi_hybrid_switch), I'm going to guess no. I think they look like they might but don't. I'm not 100% sure and I can't find anything in a quick search.

    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 28 October 2015, 23:30:14
    Does someone know the P/N or Model Nr. of this keyboard? Are these Cherry compatible double shots?

    According to Mr a500 (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/amiga-keyboards-with-modern-pcs-t6651.html#p129342), it's a Commodore PC5 or PC10. If I'm understanding this thread correctly (http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/commodore-pc5-t5293.html), it will be MX-mount compatible. I'm a little surprised because I've never tried a Commodore with anything MX-compatible. I've always tried keyboards with weird buckling rubber sleeves and they were meh. But I'm far from a vintage PC expert. I just know what I've tried at retro game expos.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 08:54:13
    On a keyboard with PCB-mounted stabilizers, is it possible to install those stabilizers after soldering on all the switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 08:55:38
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 08:54:13
    On a keyboard with PCB-mounted stabilizers, is it possible to install those stabilizers after soldering on all the switches?

    No, you'd want to put the stabilizers on the plate first before soldering the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 08:56:40
    Damn, those are the only parts missing!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:05:40
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 08:54:13
    On a keyboard with PCB-mounted stabilizers, is it possible to install those stabilizers after soldering on all the switches?

    Are you using plate mounted or PCB mounted switches? In a GON built I made recently, I used PCB mounted switches and PCB mounted stabilizers, the stabs can be install and removed at any time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:06:23
    One of each
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:07:48
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:05:40
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 08:54:13
    On a keyboard with PCB-mounted stabilizers, is it possible to install those stabilizers after soldering on all the switches?

    Are you using plate mounted or PCB mounted switches? In a recent GON built I made, I use PCB mounted switches and PCB mounted stabilizers, the stabs can be install and removed at any time.

    Trust me. It's easier to put all the stabilizers on first. If you happen to solder the switches on and you've put the little inserts on backwards or make an oops with the stabilizers, it's hard to desolder the whole board to adjust something. I made this mistake on my KMAC build.

    You can install them like ideus said but just be sure everything is setup right and you double check twice before soldering. Otherwise it's a pain. That's the only reason I answered the way I did before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:15:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:07:48
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:05:40
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 08:54:13
    On a keyboard with PCB-mounted stabilizers, is it possible to install those stabilizers after soldering on all the switches?

    Are you using plate mounted or PCB mounted switches? In a recent GON built I made, I use PCB mounted switches and PCB mounted stabilizers, the stabs can be install and removed at any time.

    Trust me. It's easier to put all the stabilizers on first. If you happen to solder the switches on and you've put the little inserts on backwards or make an oops with the stabilizers, it's hard to desolder the whole board to adjust something. I made this mistake on my KMAC build.

    You can install them like ideus said but just be sure everything is setup right and you double check twice before soldering. Otherwise it's a pain. That's the only reason I answered the way I did before.

    It is not my intention to contradict your vast experience, it is only that I do not have any problem, even now with my keyboard fully assembled, I can remove the stabilizers very easily, I do not know if it depends on the type of PCB that I am using, it may be, because my GON has a large drill for one side of the stab insert and one small, and it is very easy to pull the stab out and in. I will try to make some pictures to demonstrate how my board is made.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:18:14
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:15:37
    It is not my intention to contradict your vast experience, it is only that I do not have any problem, even now with my keyboard fully assembled, I can remove the stabilizers very easily, I do not know if it depends on the type of PCB that I am using, it may be, because my GON has a large drill for one side of the stab insert and one small, and it is very easy to pull the stab out and in. I will try to make some pictures to demonstrate how my board is made.

    That feature would've been really handy on some of the builds I've worked on :(. After I build that KMAC, I always put the stabilizers on first just in case I couldn't remove them easily. But maybe that's because I typically build PCB mounted stabilizers?

    Now you got me all mixed up lol. Or maybe I'm just recalling the issues I had trying to build my Epsilon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:25:16
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:15:37
    Quote from:  I will try to make some pictures to demonstrate how my board is made.
    [/quote
    Could you link the PCB? Or the model name?
    I have three Satan GH60 which support PCB-mounted stabs, and one Sprit FaceW which doesn't. I also have two plates which don't support plate-mounted stabs, and one which does except on the enter-key.
    My plan is to make one Satan with no plate and PCB-stabs, the Sprit with the plate which supports stabs except on the enter, and the two last Satans with PCB-mounted stabs and plates. I still need to find a way to stabilize that one enter key, but that can wait - it's not the first one I'm going to make.

    Right now I am thinking of making the one without a plate since my stabs haven't even been sent yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:26:27
    Here is my backspace stabilizer that I took off in less than a minute and in again, I am typing in my board again. You can see the too drills at each side of the switch, one is larger the the other that makes pulling the stabs post in and out very easy. I hope that helps.

    My PCB is a GON Nerd60 with PCB mounted switches and stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:30:12
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:26:27
    Here is my backspace stabilizer that I took off in less than a minute and in again, I am typing in my board again. You can see the too drills at each side of the switch, one is larger the the other that makes pulling the stabs post in and out very easy. I hope that helps.

    My PCB is a GON Nerd60 with PCB mounted switches and stabilizers.

    Ah ok. The PCBs I've worked on had holes that were the same size as the PCB mounted stabilizer legs so they'd clip into the PCB and the plate. I remember having issues trying to remove the stabilizers after installing them because of the clippings. GONs PCBs are obviously different.

    tofgerl, I think the answer you're looking for is, install at your own discretion. It depends on what you're working on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:31:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:30:12
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:26:27
    Here is my backspace stabilizer that I took off in less than a minute and in again, I am typing in my board again. You can see the too drills at each side of the switch, one is larger the the other that makes pulling the stabs post in and out very easy. I hope that helps.

    My PCB is a GON Nerd60 with PCB mounted switches and stabilizers.

    Ah ok. The PCBs I've worked on had holes that were the same size as the PCB mounted stabilizer legs so they'd clip into the PCB and the plate. I remember having issues trying to remove the stabilizers after installing them because of the clippings. GONs PCBs are obviously different.

    tofgerl, I think the answer you're looking for is, install at your own discretion. It depends on what you're working on.

    Go it.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:32:38
    Here's an image of the backspace on this PCB:

    https://goo.gl/photos/vdXLqgnstnXi9d6T7

    Edit: The FaceW is very similar, but for some reason the switches are to be mounted upside-down on the Satan, and right side up on the FaceW...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:33:44
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:31:29
    Got it.  :thumb:

    Thanks for the picture and the info too. I definitely learn a lot when people discuss their experience in this thread. I didn't realize GON made his PCBs like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:38:04
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:32:38
    Here's an image of the backspace on this PCB:

    https://goo.gl/photos/vdXLqgnstnXi9d6T7 (https://goo.gl/photos/vdXLqgnstnXi9d6T7)

    Edit: The FaceW is very similar, but for some reason the switches are to be mounted upside-down on the Satan, and right side up on the FaceW...

    I'd say you may test how hard is to pull the stabs' post in and out before soldering anything, if it is hard, you'd be better keep them install before to solder, otherwise, you may install and remove them at will. It seems the holes diameters are close to the GON's; therefore, it should be relatively easy to remove and install them after the switches are soldered PCB mounted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:39:00
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:38:04
    I'd say you may test how hard is to pull the stabs' post in and out before soldering anything, if it is hard, you'd be better keep them install before to solder, otherwise, you may install and remove them at will. It seems the holes diameters are close to the GON's; therefore, it should be relatively easy to remove and install them after the switches are soldered PCB mounted.
    Right, except the whole point is that the stabs are a long way away :|
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:39:30
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:38:04
    I'd say you may test how hard is to pull the stabs' post in and out before soldering anything, if it is hard, you'd be better keep them install before to solder, otherwise, you may install and remove them at will. It seems the holes diameters are close to the GON's; therefore, it should be relatively easy to remove and install them after the switches are soldered PCB mounted.

    Yup. I definitely agree with this.

    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:39:00
    Right, except the whole point is that the stabs are a long way away :|

    Be patient? Or take apart another board to get at the stabs if you can't wait.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:41:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:33:44
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:31:29
    Got it.  :thumb:

    Thanks for the picture and the info too. I definitely learn a lot when people discuss their experience in this thread. I didn't realize GON made his PCBs like that.

    I am really impress how easy to reconfigure and reprogram this Nerd60 is. I have changed the layout at least five times so far. While I did it carefully each time, the paths on the PCB are very well made, and not problem has arouse so far.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:58:00
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:41:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:33:44
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 October 2015, 09:31:29
    Got it.  :thumb:

    Thanks for the picture and the info too. I definitely learn a lot when people discuss their experience in this thread. I didn't realize GON made his PCBs like that.

    I am really impress how easy to reconfigure and reprogram this Nerd60 is. I have changed the layout at least five times so far. While I did it carefully each time, the paths on the PCB are very well made, and not problem has arouse so far.

    I love the Nerd GUI it's so simple a child could use it.
    I think the lighting options though leaves a bit to be desired
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Thu, 29 October 2015, 11:55:19
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 October 2015, 22:03:21
    Quote from: Vozella on Wed, 28 October 2015, 21:50:39
    http://zealpc.net/products/zealio
    When will the 62g variant be back in stock? I'd like to buy one of each variant to try them out.
    Zeal said when he restocks which could be a while, should post in the zelio thread showing your interest.

    Oh. I didn't know there was a Zealio thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 29 October 2015, 13:44:06
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 29 October 2015, 11:55:19
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 October 2015, 22:03:21
    Quote from: Vozella on Wed, 28 October 2015, 21:50:39
    http://zealpc.net/products/zealio
    When will the 62g variant be back in stock? I'd like to buy one of each variant to try them out.
    Zeal said when he restocks which could be a while, should post in the zelio thread showing your interest.

    Oh. I didn't know there was a Zealio thread.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.0

    That should get you there. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Thu, 29 October 2015, 17:09:45
    How does one person make a custom RGB backlit keyboard? https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2hrpis/friend_of_a_friend_makes_custom_rgb_keyboards_but/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:00:50
    How can I reprogram a numpad that produces different keys from the second numpad I'd have plugged in?
    I'm thinking of having a normal numpad then a different numpad for the Function keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:12:02
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:00:50
    How can I reprogram a numpad that produces different keys from the second numpad I'd have plugged in?
    I'm thinking of having a normal numpad then a different numpad for the Function keys.
    Load custom firmware on it via a Teensy and Soarer/TMK or get hasu's USB to USB converter.
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 29 October 2015, 17:09:45
    How does one person make a custom RGB backlit keyboard? https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2hrpis/friend_of_a_friend_makes_custom_rgb_keyboards_but/
    Not really a simple question. I'd start by looking at Matt3o's brown fox or steel fox build, lowpoly's builds, and reading the Soarer or TMK thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lain1911 on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:29:42
    Sorry :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:38:35
    Quote from: Lain1911 on Thu, 29 October 2015, 18:29:42
    I know there are situations where you can buy barebone keyboards for cheaper. Is there anything else like this such as a barebone monitor (ex: monitor without stand with use for an ergotech stand). etc.
    Not keyboard related so I have no idea. Might want to make an off topic thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 00:53:39
    i have a board with a switch that is activating at even the slightest touch, its in the space bar and even gently resting your thumb on the bar makes it activate. any ideas on what could be wrong?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:03:40
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 00:53:39
    i have a board with a switch that is activating at even the slightest touch, its in the space bar and even gently resting your thumb on the bar makes it activate. any ideas on what could be wrong?

    Have you opened up the switch in the past? my guess is that the leaf is bent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:33:39
    Quote from: byker on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:03:40
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 00:53:39
    i have a board with a switch that is activating at even the slightest touch, its in the space bar and even gently resting your thumb on the bar makes it activate. any ideas on what could be wrong?

    Have you opened up the switch in the past? my guess is that the leaf is bent.

    I bought the board from someone else. Is the only option going to be de-solder and open it up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: donpark on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:40:19
    Anyone been in contact with kaliet/22kbd recently?
    Is he still making customs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 October 2015, 09:14:14
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:33:39
    Quote from: byker on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:03:40
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 00:53:39
    i have a board with a switch that is activating at even the slightest touch, its in the space bar and even gently resting your thumb on the bar makes it activate. any ideas on what could be wrong?

    Have you opened up the switch in the past? my guess is that the leaf is bent.

    I bought the board from someone else. Is the only option going to be de-solder and open it up?

    You could simply just swap the switch. You wouldn't have to desolder the whole board. Just that switch.

    Quote from: donpark on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:40:19
    Anyone been in contact with kaliet/22kbd recently?
    Is he still making customs?

    Binge would be the best point of contact I think. I'm not sure on either question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 15:02:08
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 October 2015, 09:14:14
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:33:39
    Quote from: byker on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:03:40
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 00:53:39
    i have a board with a switch that is activating at even the slightest touch, its in the space bar and even gently resting your thumb on the bar makes it activate. any ideas on what could be wrong?

    Have you opened up the switch in the past? my guess is that the leaf is bent.

    I bought the board from someone else. Is the only option going to be de-solder and open it up?

    You could simply just swap the switch. You wouldn't have to desolder the whole board. Just that switch.


    Not looking forward to that. This is a very expensive board, and im still quite a novice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 30 October 2015, 16:15:39
    Which board is it? Plate or PCB-mounted switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Fri, 30 October 2015, 16:52:42
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:33:39
    Quote from: byker on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:03:40
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 30 October 2015, 00:53:39
    i have a board with a switch that is activating at even the slightest touch, its in the space bar and even gently resting your thumb on the bar makes it activate. any ideas on what could be wrong?

    Have you opened up the switch in the past? my guess is that the leaf is bent.

    I bought the board from someone else. Is the only option going to be de-solder and open it up?

    Likely, unless the board has a pcb mount switches or a plate that allows you to open up switches. Be aware that I am more of a topre guy, so the leaf was only my best guess!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 30 October 2015, 17:04:17
    Soldering in a new switch is your best bet and if that still doesn't work you'll have to jump it with a wire.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: donpark on Fri, 30 October 2015, 23:21:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 October 2015, 09:14:14
    Quote from: donpark on Fri, 30 October 2015, 02:40:19
    Anyone been in contact with kaliet/22kbd recently?
    Is he still making customs?

    Binge would be the best point of contact I think. I'm not sure on either question.
    thanks for the info, I'm asking Binge in his HF thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kebby on Sat, 31 October 2015, 06:52:27
    Is the Filco Zero compatible with the Kobo top cases that are sold by for example Keyboardco?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 31 October 2015, 09:18:41
    Does anyone know of a good TMK macro tutorial? I don't understand it, and copy/pasting from other keymaps doesn't work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 31 October 2015, 12:44:23
    Quote from: kebby on Sat, 31 October 2015, 06:52:27
    Is the Filco Zero compatible with the Kobo top cases that are sold by for example Keyboardco?
    I think so. The cases are definitely just standard filco cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 31 October 2015, 12:58:54
    Is there any triple shot Cherry made key caps set? Or at least one key?

    I entertain the idea that maybe some of the upcoming GMK GBs may include a sort of novelty in triple shot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 31 October 2015, 13:00:45
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 31 October 2015, 09:18:41
    Does anyone know of a good TMK macro tutorial? I don't understand it, and copy/pasting from other keymaps doesn't work.

    Matt3o wrote one that might help you (http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/how-to-build-your-very-own-keyboard-firmware-t7177.html).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 31 October 2015, 13:29:16
    Not very good on macros I'm afraid. But there is some talk about it later in the thread. I'll see what I can pull out...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mobbo on Sat, 31 October 2015, 19:30:14
    Where I can get a cyan spacebar to go with the Hyperfuse set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sun, 01 November 2015, 01:33:40
    Quote from: mobbo on Sat, 31 October 2015, 19:30:14
    Where I can get a cyan spacebar to go with the Hyperfuse set?

    I believe cyan spacebars have been run in colour packs before, your best bet would be to try the classifieds. I do not know of any currently-running sources for GMK cyan spacebars.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:37:51
    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 01 November 2015, 01:33:40
    Quote from: mobbo on Sat, 31 October 2015, 19:30:14
    Where I can get a cyan spacebar to go with the Hyperfuse set?

    I believe cyan spacebars have been run in colour packs before, your best bet would be to try the classifieds. I do not know of any currently-running sources for GMK cyan spacebars.

    I know that GMK Miami Nights has them included so posting in the thread there is probably the best idea
    Not sure if a vendor got in on it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mobbo on Sun, 01 November 2015, 20:09:24
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:37:51
    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 01 November 2015, 01:33:40
    Quote from: mobbo on Sat, 31 October 2015, 19:30:14
    Where I can get a cyan spacebar to go with the Hyperfuse set?

    I believe cyan spacebars have been run in colour packs before, your best bet would be to try the classifieds. I do not know of any currently-running sources for GMK cyan spacebars.

    I know that GMK Miami Nights has them included so posting in the thread there is probably the best idea
    Not sure if a vendor got in on it

    Thank you guys, I'll poke around and hope I get lucky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Sun, 01 November 2015, 20:37:01
    What keycaps are these? http://deskthority.net/resources/image/7678
    Taken from here: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/building-a-custom-keyboard-from-the-ground-up-t5761.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Sun, 01 November 2015, 21:01:52
    Quote from: Vozella on Sun, 01 November 2015, 20:37:01
    What keycaps are these? http://deskthority.net/resources/image/7678
    Taken from here: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/building-a-custom-keyboard-from-the-ground-up-t5761.html

    Looks like DSA Retro to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 November 2015, 21:03:27
    Quote from: Bomble on Sun, 01 November 2015, 21:01:52
    Quote from: Vozella on Sun, 01 November 2015, 20:37:01
    What keycaps are these? http://deskthority.net/resources/image/7678
    Taken from here: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/building-a-custom-keyboard-from-the-ground-up-t5761.html

    Looks like DSA Retro to me.

    Yup, DSA Retro. Here's some info about it (http://keypuller.com/dsa-retro/).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Mon, 02 November 2015, 10:48:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 November 2015, 21:03:27
    Quote from: Bomble on Sun, 01 November 2015, 21:01:52
    Quote from: Vozella on Sun, 01 November 2015, 20:37:01
    What keycaps are these? http://deskthority.net/resources/image/7678
    Taken from here: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/building-a-custom-keyboard-from-the-ground-up-t5761.html

    Looks like DSA Retro to me.

    Yup, DSA Retro. Here's some info about it (http://keypuller.com/dsa-retro/).

    Are they being sold or were they only a limited time kind of thing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 10:49:36
    Quote from: Vozella on Mon, 02 November 2015, 10:48:14
    Are they being sold or were they only a limited time kind of thing?

    I think there was two GB runs. SP might have them on their site. I haven't paid attention to them though. You might have better luck looking for them in the Classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 02 November 2015, 10:59:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 10:49:36
    Quote from: Vozella on Mon, 02 November 2015, 10:48:14
    Are they being sold or were they only a limited time kind of thing?

    I think there was two GB runs. SP might have them on their site. I haven't paid attention to them though. You might have better luck looking for them in the Classifieds.

    Yeah, I heard that they were being sold on the site recently, like today recently, but I'm not seeing them. I might be blind though! Good thing I'm not a rabid fan of the set, or I'd be going crazy trying to get it right now.  :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:05:13
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:06:44
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:05:13
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/geLkLjn.jpg)



    Are these Acer Kb101a's with blue alps?

    Lol uh...maybe? It's hard to say without pulling the caps or seeing the back labels. I thought Acer boards had the Acer Alps-clones too. Wasn't aware they came with SKCM as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:09:08
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:10:44
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:09:08
    I'm messaging the seller.  I didn't realize they could have clone switches.  Good thing you mentioned that.  Thank you

    Here's some info on them (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Acer_switch). They're not bad. They're just not SKCM.

    And just for future reference, yes Acer KB-101As shipped with SKCM Blues (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Acer_KB-101A). TIL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:12:22
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:43:55
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:12:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:10:44
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:09:08
    I'm messaging the seller.  I didn't realize they could have clone switches.  Good thing you mentioned that.  Thank you

    Here's some info on them (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Acer_switch). They're not bad. They're just not SKCM.

    And just for future reference, yes Acer KB-101As shipped with SKCM Blues (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Acer_KB-101A). TIL.

    Thank you undisputed alps champion!

    Yeah, there is the Acer 6011 which can sometimes have the same case as an Acer KB-101A, though MOSTLY only with Acer switches, but...

    Not ALL the time! http://imgur.com/a/Yni4I

    This is one that clearly looks like an Acer KB-101A but is a 6011. However, it doesn't have Acer switches or SKCM Blue. It has genuine Alps SKCM White switches.

    Some 6011s don't even look like alike!

    The Alps generation was a very sporadic and unpredictable time when it came to keyboard switches. There are tons of examples of models that came with multiple kinds of switches. The Wang is a huge example AFAIK, because it came with Salmon, Orange, or Black switches.

    The Fame I have in my signature has SKCM Blue Alps, but most Fames look very different and have either TaiHao APC switches or Tai Hao Aruz.

    The Chicony 5161 can have either SKCM White, SKCM Blue, Mitsumi, Omron, or even Cherry MX.

    The Focus FK-2001 can have SKCM White or Blue or even clones.

    It's kind of a gamble with Alps unless there are clear identifiers like the FCC ID, serial number ranges, or case styles and layouts. It's kind of a fun aspect when it comes to hunting down Alps boards, imo. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:46:18
    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:43:55
    It's kind of a gamble with Alps unless there are clear identifiers like the FCC ID, serial number ranges, or case styles and layouts. It's kind of a fun aspect when it comes to hunting down Alps boards, imo. :)

    Yup. I couldn't have said it any better. That's why I always say I need a picture of the caps pulled and a picture of the back.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:08:08
    Sure, like buying a lottery ticket with your last few coins is "fun"...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:09:30
    Can MX switches with diodes take LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:11:37
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:09:30
    Can MX switches with diodes take LEDs?

    Not if the Diodes are installed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:14:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:11:37
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:09:30
    Can MX switches with diodes take LEDs?

    Not if the Diodes are installed.

    Are there any better than regular switches along with diodes installed on the PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:15:43
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:14:45
    Are there any better than regular switches along with diodes installed on the PCB?

    I don't understand this question. Could you please rephrase?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:22:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:15:43
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:14:45
    Are there any better than regular switches along with diodes installed on the PCB?

    I don't understand this question. Could you please rephrase?

    Sure, I wonder if the MX switches that come with diodes already installed inside their housing work in some way better than regular ones, that requires the diodes to be installed on the PCB, as most of the switches are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:24:58
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:22:56
    Sure, I wonder if the MX switches that come with diodes already installed inside their housing work in some way better than regular ones, that requires the diodes to be installed on the PCB, as most of the switches are.

    Got it. I think the design of the in-switch diodes preceeds the development of LEDs in keyboards. I don't think they're better or worse. Just a different usage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:25:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:24:58
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:22:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:15:43
    Sure, I wonder if the MX switches that come with diodes already installed inside their housing work in some way better than regular ones, that requires the diodes to be installed on the PCB, as most of the switches are.

    Got it. I think the design of the in-switch diodes preceeds the development of LEDs in keyboards. I don't think they're better or worse. Just a different usage.

    Thank you, and I am sorry for the poor wording in the first question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:26:38
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:25:58
    Thank you, and I am sorry for the poor wording in the first question.

    No need to apologize. I just want to make sure I'm understanding what you're asking.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mszy52 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:02:17
    what are people's experiance with Cherry Browns as apposed to other cherry or even off brand switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:02:48
    In regards to GMK, can they pad print anything (legend wise) or do they have set legends like with their doubleshots?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:39:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:11:37
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:09:30
    Can MX switches with diodes take LEDs?

    Not if the Diodes are installed.

    If there are pads for the LED's one could potentially remove the diodes from inside the switch, and solder them on the back side with he diode on the other side of the PCB.  Though one would want to solder the LED's first, then install the diodes.  Though I don't know of any PCBs that would support this aside from Enablers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:46:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:39:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:11:37
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:09:30
    Can MX switches with diodes take LEDs?

    Not if the Diodes are installed.

    If there are pads for the LED's one could potentially remove the diodes from inside the switch, and solder them on the back side with he diode on the other side of the PCB.  Though one would want to solder the LED's first, then install the diodes.  Though I don't know of any PCBs that would support this aside from Enablers.

    Do these switches require special PCBs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:56:10
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:46:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:39:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:11:37
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:09:30
    Can MX switches with diodes take LEDs?

    Not if the Diodes are installed.

    If there are pads for the LED's one could potentially remove the diodes from inside the switch, and solder them on the back side with he diode on the other side of the PCB.  Though one would want to solder the LED's first, then install the diodes.  Though I don't know of any PCBs that would support this aside from Enablers.

    Do these switches require special PCBs?

    they are just normal cherry mx. you can use them on any mx board if you remove the diodes inside the switches
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:57:12
    Quote from: mszy52 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:02:17
    what are people's experiance with Cherry Browns as apposed to other cherry or even off brand switches?

    This isn't really a simple question. There's plenty of threads about the topic though if you search. Very subjective.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ika on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:03:34
    Are Gateron Black springs the same bottom-out weight as Cherry Black springs? Gateron lists them at 50g and Cherry Blacks are listed at 60cN.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:06:35
    Quote from: ika on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:03:34
    Are Gateron Black springs the same bottom-out weight as Cherry Black springs? Gateron lists them at 50g and Cherry Blacks are listed at 60cN.

    I think you answered your own question. Unless Gaterons are measuring at a different spot but the DT wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Gateron_KS-3_series#Regular_variants) says it's measured at acuation as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:12:55
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:13:57
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:12:55
    So, I got these pictures, but seller refuses to pop off a cap since he's never done it before:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/QwktSwE.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kXnib8m.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kXnib8m.jpg)


    I'm 90% sure those are Acer switches. I bought an Acer 6011 for the caps. The board had Black Acer switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:17:11
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:21:10
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:17:11
    I mean they are only $30 shipped each, but should I?  Thanks for the help CPTBADASS

    I dunno. I didn't like the Acer switches enough to want to keep the board as is. I guess if you really want those caps since that layout is cool? But it seems a shame to tear apart a board just for caps. Even though I did it....I'm the worst.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:23:26
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 02 November 2015, 23:48:50
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:12:55
    So, I got these pictures, but seller refuses to pop off a cap since he's never done it before:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/QwktSwE.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kXnib8m.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kXnib8m.jpg)


    In conclusion:

    Okay, I found a lot out and I think there's a lot of confusion here because Acer reused that case design across three or so different model ranges.

    The KB-101A, the 6011, and the 6311-K.

    The 6311 series is what has Acer switches.

    All 6011 models have some form of SKCM clicky switch. They could have blue or white, but considering the MFG date is in the brink of the new decade, I don't think these will have blue alps. They will likely have white alps though. Which means they could be nice for a switch swap of your choice. If you like the style of the KB101A but don't like the price, the 6011 makes a good lookalike.

    Below is my crazy sleuthing for posterity:

    UPDATE EDIT:

    After some further observation on those boards in comparison to the white Alps one here: http://imgur.com/a/Yni4I

    ...The one example he showed the label of (those two pictures are duplicates, same serial #) has a MFG date earlier than the one shown with white Alps, so it very well could have white alps. The odds of finding blue alps in anything past the late 80s is very unlikely though.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-6011-Vintage-Mechanical-Keyboard-PS-2-Tested-Working-/261579910636?nma=true&si=k6ICFVEof38ltWuPPmm7Zfn9SZ0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    If you look here, this one also has white switches. Given that the boards you linked are in between the dates of two boards that have white alps, it's very likely now that that one made in 5/15/90 to have white alps unless they went crazy and used both Acer and White Alps concurrently.

    So, the plus side would be that you essentially have a "KB-101A" with white alps that you could swap for blue or any other variety.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 03 November 2015, 00:53:42
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:02:48
    In regards to GMK, can they pad print anything (legend wise) or do they have set legends like with their doubleshots?

    Bumparoney
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 03 November 2015, 01:05:24
    Acer switches feel very nice on their own (one of my favorites probably), but once you stick them in a board they don't feel very nice. I don't know what it is about them that makes it like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 November 2015, 08:23:43
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Tue, 03 November 2015, 00:53:42
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:02:48
    In regards to GMK, can they pad print anything (legend wise) or do they have set legends like with their doubleshots?

    Bumparoney

    Don't bump your questions. I wasn't aware they could pad print at all. I'd assume that pad printing isn't confined to the molds they have like the doubleshots are.

    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 02 November 2015, 23:48:50
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:12:55
    So, I got these pictures, but seller refuses to pop off a cap since he's never done it before:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/QwktSwE.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kXnib8m.jpg)


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kXnib8m.jpg)


    In conclusion:

    Okay, I found a lot out and I think there's a lot of confusion here because Acer reused that case design across three or so different model ranges.

    The KB-101A, the 6011, and the 6311-K.

    The 6311 series is what has Acer switches.

    All 6011 models have some form of SKCM clicky switch. They could have blue or white, but considering the MFG date is in the brink of the new decade, I don't think these will have blue alps. They will likely have white alps though. Which means they could be nice for a switch swap of your choice. If you like the style of the KB101A but don't like the price, the 6011 makes a good lookalike.

    Below is my crazy sleuthing for posterity:

    UPDATE EDIT:

    After some further observation on those boards in comparison to the white Alps one here: http://imgur.com/a/Yni4I

    ...The one example he showed the label of (those two pictures are duplicates, same serial #) has a MFG date earlier than the one shown with white Alps, so it very well could have white alps. The odds of finding blue alps in anything past the late 80s is very unlikely though.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-6011-Vintage-Mechanical-Keyboard-PS-2-Tested-Working-/261579910636?nma=true&si=k6ICFVEof38ltWuPPmm7Zfn9SZ0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    If you look here, this one also has white switches. Given that the boards you linked are in between the dates of two boards that have white alps, it's very likely now that that one made in 5/15/90 to have white alps unless they went crazy and used both Acer and White Alps concurrently.

    So, the plus side would be that you essentially have a "KB-101A" with white alps that you could swap for blue or any other variety.

    Dude.....thanks for the sleuthing. You're right, I confused the 6011 with the 6311. I definitely had a 6311 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1471182#msg1471182).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 November 2015, 09:02:31
    I am checking an OG set that is double shot beige with pad printed Cyrillic legends in red originally made by GMK, apparently they can pad print a lot of stuff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ika on Tue, 03 November 2015, 16:29:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:06:35
    Quote from: ika on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:03:34
    Are Gateron Black springs the same bottom-out weight as Cherry Black springs? Gateron lists them at 50g and Cherry Blacks are listed at 60cN.

    I think you answered your own question. Unless Gaterons are measuring at a different spot but the DT wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Gateron_KS-3_series#Regular_variants) says it's measured at acuation as well.

    Funny that you're the one to respond to the question because in your review you said they felt exactly the same: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0
    which is why I brought up the actuation points. I doubt I could directly compare two companies' measurements, and I don't have bare Cherry Blacks to do any science myself. I can compare a bare Gateron Black to a plate-mounted black in my TG3, and it feels that Gateron Blacks are considerably lighter, but that could be 1) placebo, 2) smoothness difference, 3) comparing mounted to unmounted switches. Plus it contradicts what you said in your review. I was hoping for a second or third opinion :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 03 November 2015, 18:34:41
    Quote from: ika on Tue, 03 November 2015, 16:29:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:06:35
    Quote from: ika on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:03:34
    Are Gateron Black springs the same bottom-out weight as Cherry Black springs? Gateron lists them at 50g and Cherry Blacks are listed at 60cN.

    I think you answered your own question. Unless Gaterons are measuring at a different spot but the DT wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Gateron_KS-3_series#Regular_variants) says it's measured at acuation as well.

    Funny that you're the one to respond to the question because in your review you said they felt exactly the same: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0
    which is why I brought up the actuation points. I doubt I could directly compare two companies' measurements, and I don't have bare Cherry Blacks to do any science myself. I can compare a bare Gateron Black to a plate-mounted black in my TG3, and it feels that Gateron Blacks are considerably lighter, but that could be 1) placebo, 2) smoothness difference, 3) comparing mounted to unmounted switches. Plus it contradicts what you said in your review. I was hoping for a second or third opinion :)

    Ask none other than the switch collector himself. Unmounted they feel pretty similar to me, indeed the difference between 50 and 60gF is not that much. I don't have a tool for measuring actuation but I'll try to get one at some point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 November 2015, 19:36:22
    Quote from: ika on Tue, 03 November 2015, 16:29:00
    Funny that you're the one to respond to the question because in your review you said they felt exactly the same: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0
    which is why I brought up the actuation points. I doubt I could directly compare two companies' measurements, and I don't have bare Cherry Blacks to do any science myself. I can compare a bare Gateron Black to a plate-mounted black in my TG3, and it feels that Gateron Blacks are considerably lighter, but that could be 1) placebo, 2) smoothness difference, 3) comparing mounted to unmounted switches. Plus it contradicts what you said in your review. I was hoping for a second or third opinion :)

    That's why I stopped caring about the numbers and I just try to get my hands on stuff to try it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 November 2015, 20:32:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 November 2015, 19:36:22
    Quote from: ika on Tue, 03 November 2015, 16:29:00
    Funny that you're the one to respond to the question because in your review you said they felt exactly the same: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0)
    which is why I brought up the actuation points. I doubt I could directly compare two companies' measurements, and I don't have bare Cherry Blacks to do any science myself. I can compare a bare Gateron Black to a plate-mounted black in my TG3, and it feels that Gateron Blacks are considerably lighter, but that could be 1) placebo, 2) smoothness difference, 3) comparing mounted to unmounted switches. Plus it contradicts what you said in your review. I was hoping for a second or third opinion :)

    That's why I stopped caring about the numbers and I just try to get my hands on stuff to try it out.

    Numbers may be altered due to several reasons, most data shared here cannot be compared with other people's data, that is why it is always better to try it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 04 November 2015, 06:16:49
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 03 November 2015, 20:32:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 November 2015, 19:36:22
    Quote from: ika on Tue, 03 November 2015, 16:29:00
    Funny that you're the one to respond to the question because in your review you said they felt exactly the same: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0)
    which is why I brought up the actuation points. I doubt I could directly compare two companies' measurements, and I don't have bare Cherry Blacks to do any science myself. I can compare a bare Gateron Black to a plate-mounted black in my TG3, and it feels that Gateron Blacks are considerably lighter, but that could be 1) placebo, 2) smoothness difference, 3) comparing mounted to unmounted switches. Plus it contradicts what you said in your review. I was hoping for a second or third opinion :)

    That's why I stopped caring about the numbers and I just try to get my hands on stuff to try it out.

    Numbers may be altered due to several reasons, most data shared here cannot be compared with other people's data, that is why it is always better to try it out.

    I definitely feel a sense of uncertainty when it comes to comparing yellow Alps to green Alps and salmon to orange.

    I always thought the long switch plate made Alps switches a lot smoother, but imo, the Salmon in my AT101 are very very smooth and they feel just as pleasant as Orange Alps.

    Yellows and Greens perplex me. Greens are definitely lighter, but they are both pretty smooth! I'm curious where linear brown alps fall between the other two.  Are they heavier or lighter than greens?

    Sth mentioned that they felt about as heavy as MX blacks or a little heavier, and in his board, a yellow Alps switch was used for the space bar.

    So I'm guessing green is the lightest, brown is in the middle, and yellow is heaviest.

    On the board my green Alps came from, the space bar switch was just a green Alps switch with a heavier spring and "lipstick" on the lips of the stem that could smudge off pretty easy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 November 2015, 08:17:58
    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 04 November 2015, 06:16:49
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 03 November 2015, 20:32:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 November 2015, 19:36:22
    Quote from: ika on Tue, 03 November 2015, 16:29:00
    Funny that you're the one to respond to the question because in your review you said they felt exactly the same: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0)
    which is why I brought up the actuation points. I doubt I could directly compare two companies' measurements, and I don't have bare Cherry Blacks to do any science myself. I can compare a bare Gateron Black to a plate-mounted black in my TG3, and it feels that Gateron Blacks are considerably lighter, but that could be 1) placebo, 2) smoothness difference, 3) comparing mounted to unmounted switches. Plus it contradicts what you said in your review. I was hoping for a second or third opinion :)

    That's why I stopped caring about the numbers and I just try to get my hands on stuff to try it out.

    Numbers may be altered due to several reasons, most data shared here cannot be compared with other people's data, that is why it is always better to try it out.

    I definitely feel a sense of uncertainty when it comes to comparing yellow Alps to green Alps and salmon to orange.

    I always thought the long switch plate made Alps switches a lot smoother, but imo, the Salmon in my AT101 are very very smooth and they feel just as pleasant as Orange Alps.

    Yellows and Greens perplex me. Greens are definitely lighter, but they are both pretty smooth! I'm curious where linear brown alps fall between the other two.  Are they heavier or lighter than greens?

    Sth mentioned that they felt about as heavy as MX blacks or a little heavier, and in his board, a yellow Alps switch was used for the space bar.

    So I'm guessing green is the lightest, brown is in the middle, and yellow is heaviest.

    On the board my green Alps came from, the space bar switch was just a green Alps switch with a heavier spring and "lipstick" on the lips of the stem that could smudge off pretty easy.

    I learn that keyboard feeling depends on its overall construction, included the case, plate, if any, caps, switches, if these are discrete -MX, ALPS- or built as part of a system -Topre, BS-. Therefore your particular experience may be totally different to others using similar devices. Even the famous thock in certain boards cannot be related to a single part of the board; but, instead, it is the result of the combined effect of the case, how much empty room it has inside, and board construction, even the caps contribute to it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 08:40:59
    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 04 November 2015, 06:16:49
    I definitely feel a sense of uncertainty when it comes to comparing yellow Alps to green Alps and salmon to orange.

    I always thought the long switch plate made Alps switches a lot smoother, but imo, the Salmon in my AT101 are very very smooth and they feel just as pleasant as Orange Alps.

    Yellows and Greens perplex me. Greens are definitely lighter, but they are both pretty smooth! I'm curious where linear brown alps fall between the other two.  Are they heavier or lighter than greens?

    Sth mentioned that they felt about as heavy as MX blacks or a little heavier, and in his board, a yellow Alps switch was used for the space bar.

    So I'm guessing green is the lightest, brown is in the middle, and yellow is heaviest.

    On the board my green Alps came from, the space bar switch was just a green Alps switch with a heavier spring and "lipstick" on the lips of the stem that could smudge off pretty easy.

    The weirdest part about Alps is how much the condition of the board and switches affects the feel. The board with SKCL Yellow alps I tried felt like MX Reds in terms how how light it was. And I've never tried SKCL Browns so I'm not sure. I've just come to find that SKCL Greens are the perfect weight and smoothness for me and what I like in a linear switch. Only Hall Effects are better in my opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 04 November 2015, 08:46:52
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 04 November 2015, 08:17:58
    I learn that keyboard feeling depends on its overall construction, included the case, plate, if any, caps, switches, if these are discrete -MX, ALPS- or built as part of a system -Topre, BS-. Therefore your particular experience may be totally different to others using similar devices. Even the famous thock in certain boards cannot be related to a single part of the board; but, instead, it is the result of the combined effect of the case, how much empty room it has inside, and board construction, even the caps contribute to it.

    That is an incredible point, ideus. I have thought about it before, but never really considered it. The housing, plate, and back panel, discrete or integrated switches, and caps all really play a part in the feel. It's easy to think that it's just switches and caps, but it is so much more than that.

    Here's a typing comparison with my Fame board that has a plastic casing, tai hao doubleshots, blue alps, a metal plate and metal bottom panel

    vs

    Dell AT101 with salmon alps, thick PBT caps, metal plate, plastic case and bottom panel

    http://puu.sh/l964l/33dd871868.mp3

    It's terrible audio since I'm not using my good microphone, but this little internal mic has always been good with sound accuracy. I always felt like the FAME kind of reminds me of billiard balls with every click clack. The PBT on the AT101 really seems to give it a deep clack. I feel that thick plastic cases give a deeper sound whereas ones with metal bottoms give a more crisp sound. I think the metal bottoms also resonate a bit more, which isn't so good for spring ping, which alps are notorious for.

    SKCL Greens are what I plan on using for my carbon fiber 60% backlit Alps build using a Duck Eagle PCB. They are very smooth. :) All of the linear Alps I have tried are pleasant.

    I am really liking these Salmons though, maybe even more than Orange Alps, which I never would have imagined.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 04 November 2015, 08:54:04
    I've got a switch sampler on the way from CM with Topre on it. I seriously doubt the one Topre switch is going to feel anything like my FC660C.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 04 November 2015, 09:04:56
    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 04 November 2015, 08:46:52
    The housing, plate, and back panel, discrete or integrated switches, and caps all really play a part in the feel.
    It's easy to think that it's just switches and caps, but it is so much more than that.


    This is why I always argue for the entirety of the unified construction of the Model F, why there is no comparison between Model F and Model M, and why most "faux-Model-F" projects are doomed to failure.

    Since I don't like noise, I almost always line the metal bottom pan with layers of resilient padding and isolate the metal-to-metal contact wherever possible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 November 2015, 16:25:56
    The beauty of discrete switches is that you can pair any of the different stem designs with the springs you like, the case you prefer, your favorite plate material, and your preferred key caps set to get exactly the result you want, and enjoy all the way to reach it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:24:27
    Recently got my hands on a RF87UB.

    How difficult is it to obtain a Digilog case?

    I've seen a couple in the past in Classifields, which would suggest that they're pretty rare.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:28:15
    Quote from: nmur on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:24:27
    Recently got my hands on a RF87UB.

    How difficult is it to obtain a Digilog case?

    I've seen a couple in the past in Classifields, which would suggest that they're pretty rare.

    As far as I can tell they were only sold through one eBay vendor. Not sure if they've got any left in stock so the Classifieds might be your best shot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:31:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:28:15
    Quote from: nmur on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:24:27
    Recently got my hands on a RF87UB.

    How difficult is it to obtain a Digilog case?

    I've seen a couple in the past in Classifields, which would suggest that they're pretty rare.

    As far as I can tell they were only sold through one eBay vendor. Not sure if they've got any left in stock so the Classifieds might be your best shot.

    Thanks, how elusive...

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Wed, 04 November 2015, 20:22:43
    Quote from: nmur on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:31:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:28:15
    Quote from: nmur on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:24:27
    Recently got my hands on a RF87UB.

    How difficult is it to obtain a Digilog case?

    I've seen a couple in the past in Classifields, which would suggest that they're pretty rare.

    As far as I can tell they were only sold through one eBay vendor. Not sure if they've got any left in stock so the Classifieds might be your best shot.

    Thanks, how elusive...

    Yeah you will really only find them secondhand these days.. Good luck!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:03:27
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:09:55
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:44:38
    For my pm_search tool, I am curious how many people use labels for their PMs.  Ideally I would be able to create a poll in that thread to collect that info to better guide if that is actually a feature I should try to address in the tool.

    TIL there are PM labels.  :eek:  I can't even find an option for that anywhere though.  :confused:

    Edit: Never mind, looks like I found it.  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:12:33
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:03:27
    Quote from: byker on Wed, 04 November 2015, 20:22:43
    Quote from: nmur on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:31:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:28:15
    Quote from: nmur on Wed, 04 November 2015, 19:24:27
    Recently got my hands on a RF87UB.

    How difficult is it to obtain a Digilog case?

    I've seen a couple in the past in Classifields, which would suggest that they're pretty rare.

    As far as I can tell they were only sold through one eBay vendor. Not sure if they've got any left in stock so the Classifieds might be your best shot.

    Thanks, how elusive...

    Yeah you will really only find them secondhand these days.. Good luck!

    I got mine from reddit then traded then it was sold.  Jerue has it now.  Maybe ask nicely?  I didn't like plate-mounted topre, but it did look cool... I just hate how much extra wasted space there is above row 1 on the case on a realforce.

    Yeah I'm not too committed to getting one just yet, more of a curiosity at this stage and wanted to know how realistic it would be to find one.

    I'm loving plate mounted topre (still love the popping feeling I get on the HHKB tho) but I feel like the RF case sounds a bit... hollow?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:12:42
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:09:55
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:44:38
    For my pm_search tool, I am curious how many people use labels for their PMs.  Ideally I would be able to create a poll in that thread to collect that info to better guide if that is actually a feature I should try to address in the tool.

    TIL there are PM labels.  :eek:  I can't even find an option for that anywhere though.  :confused:

    Edit: Never mind, looks like I found it.  :))

    I totally missed this until today and I sorely regret not knowing about it sooner.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:15:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:12:42
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:09:55
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:44:38
    For my pm_search tool, I am curious how many people use labels for their PMs.  Ideally I would be able to create a poll in that thread to collect that info to better guide if that is actually a feature I should try to address in the tool.

    TIL there are PM labels.  :eek:  I can't even find an option for that anywhere though.  :confused:

    Edit: Never mind, looks like I found it.  :))

    I totally missed this until today and I sorely regret not knowing about it sooner.
    Which part? Labels in PMs?  Have you been using pm_search?  I thought you had set it up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:18:01
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:15:56
    Which part? Labels in PMs?  Have you been using pm_search?  I thought you had set it up.

    I didn't realize there was labels for PMs built into geekhack. If I had labels to use in tandem with your pm_search tool, I feel like my zine would be so much easier to organize. That being said, your tool is great and has been much more powerful than the geekhack search. I'm still learning how to use the tool though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:30:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:18:01
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:15:56
    Which part? Labels in PMs?  Have you been using pm_search?  I thought you had set it up.

    I didn't realize there was labels for PMs built into geekhack. If I had labels to use in tandem with your pm_search tool, I feel like my zine would be so much easier to organize. That being said, your tool is great and has been much more powerful than the geekhack search. I'm still learning how to use the tool though.

    Cool.  I will probably spend some time and add the tagging of PMs with the labels so you can have a 'Label' field that you can search for in the tool which will correspond to the GH label.  It may take me a week or so because I have two new websites I am working on in my spare time and I like to get projects at least to initial launch before switching back to something else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:48:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:18:01
    Quote from: swill on Wed, 04 November 2015, 21:15:56
    Which part? Labels in PMs?  Have you been using pm_search?  I thought you had set it up.

    I didn't realize there was labels for PMs built into geekhack. If I had labels to use in tandem with your pm_search tool, I feel like my zine would be so much easier to organize. That being said, your tool is great and has been much more powerful than the geekhack search. I'm still learning how to use the tool though.

    I tried telling you that here  ::)

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 October 2015, 13:21:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 October 2015, 13:13:11
    What a great idea. I've been contemplating how I can better organize Tactile subscriptions since people just PM me to get them. Having this tool would be really helpful and I wouldn't have to go to a Google Docs Form or anything.

    For something like your Tactile thing, you can make a label called Tactile Subscriptions then make a rule that if the subject contains Tactile Subscription it applies that label. Then tell anyone who wants a subscription to be sure and have Tactile Subscription in the subject line when they pm you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:53:13
    What stem do the stabilizers in tai-hao alps caps use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:42:20
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:53:13
    What stem do the stabilizers in tai-hao alps caps use?

    Square stems like those on the Dell AT101.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:46:18
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:42:20
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:53:13
    What stem do the stabilizers in tai-hao alps caps use?

    Square stems like those on the Dell AT101.

    Yeah, on all of the stabilized caps except the spacebar. Spacebar uses MX style.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:55:14
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:46:18
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:42:20
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:53:13
    What stem do the stabilizers in tai-hao alps caps use?

    Square stems like those on the Dell AT101.

    Yeah, on all of the stabilized caps except the spacebar. Spacebar uses MX style.

    So do I need matias stabilizers?

    All the vintage alps caps I have use MX stems on the stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:59:08
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:55:14
    So do I need matias stabilizers?

    All the vintage alps caps I have use MX stems on the stabilizers.

    Yep, they use the same kind that Matias uses.  I have my tai-hao Olivetti set on my V60 MTS, and they worked perfectly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dinosseur on Thu, 05 November 2015, 20:58:47
    Does anybody know if the leopold fc750r works on a mac? linux? I'm not too concerned about mac-specific buttons (ie volume up/down).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 November 2015, 21:27:51
    Quote from: dinosseur on Thu, 05 November 2015, 20:58:47
    Does anybody know if the leopold fc750r works on a mac? linux? I'm not too concerned about mac-specific buttons (ie volume up/down).

    Should be fine. I wouldn't expect there to be any issues. I can't be 100% sure though since I use neither :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dinosseur on Thu, 05 November 2015, 21:52:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 November 2015, 21:27:51
    Quote from: dinosseur on Thu, 05 November 2015, 20:58:47
    Does anybody know if the leopold fc750r works on a mac? linux? I'm not too concerned about mac-specific buttons (ie volume up/down).

    Should be fine. I wouldn't expect there to be any issues. I can't be 100% sure though since I use neither :(.

    That's what I'm expecting also. I'm just a bit more cautious since returning it would be costly. Well if anyone can let me know, that'd be great.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:45:10
    im sure this is a stupid question, so i apologize in advance.  i recently got a RealForce and it has front printed caps for then numpad around the right hand.  however, i am not able to find an actual function key, so I have no idea how to use those keys.  ideas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:48:18
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:45:10
    im sure this is a stupid question, so i apologize in advance.  i recently got a RealForce and it has front printed caps for then numpad around the right hand.  however, i am not able to find an actual function key, so I have no idea how to use those keys.  ideas?

    The button on the upper portion of the 'nav cluster' where scroll lock normally is. On a RF, it is a 'num lock' key and will lock those keys to numpad functions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:48:57
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:45:10
    im sure this is a stupid question, so i apologize in advance.  i recently got a RealForce and it has front printed caps for then numpad around the right hand.  however, i am not able to find an actual function key, so I have no idea how to use those keys.  ideas?

    You mean the integrated number pad? Just hit the numlock key. :D

    Edit: my tapatalk keeps timing out, trees answer is better anyways :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swill on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:50:24
    Quote from: trees on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:48:18
    Quote from: swill on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:45:10
    im sure this is a stupid question, so i apologize in advance.  i recently got a RealForce and it has front printed caps for then numpad around the right hand.  however, i am not able to find an actual function key, so I have no idea how to use those keys.  ideas?

    The button on the upper portion of the 'nav cluster' where scroll lock normally is. On a RF, it is a 'num lock' key and will lock those keys to numpad functions.
    Ahhh. I'm on a Mac and have those keys mapped to something else I see. OK. Thanks, I will review my setup.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:19:40
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:21:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:19:40
    Are the spacebars from OG lasered and OG doubleshot cherry boards the same?

    Damn that's a good question. I don't know for sure but IIRC, they are. Definitely a good question for a Cherryhead.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 November 2015, 12:02:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:21:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:19:40
    Are the spacebars from OG lasered and OG doubleshot cherry boards the same?

    Damn that's a good question. I don't know for sure but IIRC, they are. Definitely a good question for a Cherryhead.


    OG Cherry DS sets have thick ABS space bars; but some OG Cherry WoB DS came with PBT space bars. I do not know lasered sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 November 2015, 12:04:23
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 06 November 2015, 12:02:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:21:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:19:40
    Are the spacebars from OG lasered and OG doubleshot cherry boards the same?

    Damn that's a good question. I don't know for sure but IIRC, they are. Definitely a good question for a Cherryhead.


    OG Cherry DS sets have thick ABS space bars; but some OG Cherry WoB DS came with PBT space bars. I do not know lasered sets.

    The ones stamped 'PBT' on the boards with doubleshots are actually ABS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 November 2015, 12:10:42
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 November 2015, 12:04:23
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 06 November 2015, 12:02:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:21:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:19:40
    Are the spacebars from OG lasered and OG doubleshot cherry boards the same?

    Damn that's a good question. I don't know for sure but IIRC, they are. Definitely a good question for a Cherryhead.


    OG Cherry DS sets have thick ABS space bars; but some OG Cherry WoB DS came with PBT space bars. I do not know lasered sets.

    The ones stamped 'PBT' on the boards with doubleshots are actually ABS.


    Interesting information, A space bar of set I had previously with PBT mark actually went to the bottom in water, meaning that it should be PBT, but of course, that test is not necessarily definitive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 06 November 2015, 13:03:47
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:48:53
    On a ALPS board, what is this under the spacebar?
    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76738.0;attach=116176;image)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:57:06
    Quote from: ctm on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:48:53
    On a ALPS board, what is this under the spacebar?
    Show Image
    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76738.0;attach=116176;image)


    Should be the receiving end of the little support cylinder that's sticking out of your spacebar. I believe it helps stabilize the spacebar while it travels and adds extra support.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:15:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:57:06
    Quote from: ctm on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:48:53
    On a ALPS board, what is this under the spacebar?
    Show Image
    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76738.0;attach=116176;image)


    Should be the receiving end of the little support cylinder that's sticking out of your spacebar. I believe it helps stabilize the spacebar while it travels and adds extra support.
    How well does it work? My V60 with Matias does not have this for spacebar and it wobble a bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:25:22
    Quote from: ctm on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:15:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:57:06
    Quote from: ctm on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:48:53
    On a ALPS board, what is this under the spacebar?
    Show Image
    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76738.0;attach=116176;image)


    Should be the receiving end of the little support cylinder that's sticking out of your spacebar. I believe it helps stabilize the spacebar while it travels and adds extra support.
    How well does it work? My V60 with Matias does not have this for spacebar and it wobble a bit.
    I've never thought much about this cylinder, but comes to think of it, Alps are "wobblier" than MX, so the extra lateral stability probably makes a huge difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:34:13
    Quote from: ctm on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:15:14
    How well does it work? My V60 with Matias does not have this for spacebar and it wobble a bit.

    Dunno, never really paid much attention to it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:37:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:57:06
    I believe it helps stabilize the spacebar while it travels and adds extra support.

    I think that it is a very good idea, it works much like the plastic barrel inserts in later M/F oversize keys.

    Surprised that it is not used more often.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:38:59
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:37:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:57:06
    I believe it helps stabilize the spacebar while it travels and adds extra support.

    I think that it is a very good idea, it works much like the plastic barrel inserts in later M/F oversize keys.

    Surprised that it is not used more often.

    I thought it was a pretty good design decision as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:46:22
    Anyway to fix wobble spacebar on V60 Matias?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sat, 07 November 2015, 02:56:16
    Is there any video tuto for silenced mod on Topre keyboard?
    Thanks you
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sat, 07 November 2015, 02:59:02
    Quote from: ajx on Sat, 07 November 2015, 02:56:16
    Is there any video tuto for silenced mod on Topre keyboard?
    Thanks you

    I didn't find a video, but I found a detailed guide: http://imgur.com/a/cKxuu (http://imgur.com/a/cKxuu)

    And here are a couple of different links at the bottom: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/modifications_topre (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/modifications_topre)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sat, 07 November 2015, 05:50:39
    Thx, do i need to lube an HHKB as well?
    Some keycaps feels a little bit rattle
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 November 2015, 07:55:45
    Quote from: ajx on Sat, 07 November 2015, 05:50:39
    Thx, do i need to lube an HHKB as well?
    Some keycaps feels a little bit rattle
    If you want you can.
    Quote from: ctm on Fri, 06 November 2015, 20:46:22
    Anyway to fix wobble spacebar on V60 Matias?
    Not really. Alps are gonna be wobbly in general. Comes with the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:20:12
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:27:42
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:20:12
    is the acer 6011 I linked to earlier have similar stabs to a dell at101 or SGI granite?  Are all alps stabs the same?
    Alps stabs are confusing and not all the same. They generally come in insert costar form with square or mx style x shapes. And I don't remember what stabs the 6011 has.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:40:56
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dante on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:41:24
    Does the Unicomp 103/104 (non Classic) use a metal backplate?  I haven't/don't want to open mine but I've heard either A) there is no backplate or B) there is one but it is very thin.

    Assuming there is one - will this also have all the plastic rivets that will break in time?  If there isn't one - will there be anything to be concerned with 5+ years later?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 07 November 2015, 11:06:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:20:12
    is the acer 6011 I linked to earlier have similar stabs to a dell at101 or SGI granite?  Are all alps stabs the same?

    No, not at all. Alps is very quirky and I have seen Cherry-mount stabs (and 7u space bars with said stab mounts that do not fit with modern 7u stab spacing and wire). I have seen costar-style inserts on vintage plates ala the Infinity. It's a very mixed bag with Alps, and I have seen a split. A lot of people say Alps-style stab mounts and plate mounted inserts are most common, but I have seen many say they have more of the costar-style inserts and MX mounts.

    Sometimes you get a mix of MX-mounted stab inserts with Alp-style plate inserts. You can never be too sure with Alps.

    If I were you, I would try and find some disassembled boards to see.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:40:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:27:42
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:20:12
    is the acer 6011 I linked to earlier have similar stabs to a dell at101 or SGI granite?  Are all alps stabs the same?
    Alps stabs are confusing and not all the same. They generally come in insert costar form with square or mx style x shapes. And I don't remember what stabs the 6011 has.

    Are the stab wires the same?  I mean with the inserts are both types interchangeable?  Will the acer caps work on the dell?

    If you get the proper inserts and wire, yes. Odds are likely it will have Alps stabs like the Dell AT101. If not, costar stab inserts and custom bent wire would work, but I have a good feeling the Acer boards use typical Alps mounts and not Cherry. Calling Chyros! With his KB101A, he'd know. :P I have no idea if paging people is possible, lol.

    The only cap you might have issue with is the space bar as the stabilizing shaft positions can be different across boards. Even across AT101s, an old logo black alps space bar will not fit on the original AT101 w/ salmon alps without modification.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 11:51:13
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Sat, 07 November 2015, 20:07:31
    this is the back of din plugs i will be using for an external converter. are the pin assignments correct for model m?
    (http://imgur.com/9Uir47m.jpg)

    thanks, gh!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Sat, 07 November 2015, 20:26:15
    Anybody know what color yellow is used on the WASD pack from symbiosis SA? Its not on the PMK listing and I can't find any details on the GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:21:57
    Does anybody know which BBv2/s would match the closest with the JTK pruple & white set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:54:24
    Quote from: pabile on Sat, 07 November 2015, 20:07:31
    this is the back of din plugs i will be using for an external converter. are the pin assignments correct for model m?

    I always refer to this: (remember this is the socket, not the plug)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:46:23
    Quote from: Dernubenfrieken on Sat, 07 November 2015, 20:26:15
    Anybody know what color yellow is used on the WASD pack from symbiosis SA? Its not on the PMK listing and I can't find any details on the GB.

    I can't find it but I did find a user named xblackdog (http://keypuller.com/symbiosis/) designed it. Maybe you could contact that person?

    Quote from: Bomble on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:21:57
    Does anybody know which BBv2/s would match the closest with the JTK pruple & white set?

    Ugh, I couldn't find a good side by side but maybe this thread is helpful (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74526.msg1835649#msg1835649)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:48:46
    Relatively speaking are all Bros equal?

    As in, would a rustler or something from the Halloween sale be able to be traded with a Grumpkin, Lycan, Zombro be able to be traded 1:1 for a brobot or a reaper?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:52:11
    Quote from: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:48:46
    Relatively speaking are all Bros equal?

    As in, would a rustler or something from the Halloween sale be able to be traded with a Grumpkin, Lycan, Zombro be able to be traded 1:1 for a brobot or a reaper?


    Isn't this belong into one of the dedicated Bro threads / subforum?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 23:01:06
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:52:11
    Quote from: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:48:46
    Relatively speaking are all Bros equal?

    As in, would a rustler or something from the Halloween sale be able to be traded with a Grumpkin, Lycan, Zombro be able to be traded 1:1 for a brobot or a reaper?


    Isn't this belong into one of the dedicated Bro threads / subforum?

    Sorry if I posted it in the wrong section! I figured I would post it here as it keycap related and a pretty straight forward question!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bomble on Sat, 07 November 2015, 23:05:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:46:23
    Ugh, I couldn't find a good side by side but maybe this thread is helpful (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74526.msg1835649#msg1835649)?

    Yeah, understandably. Was kind of hoping against likelihood that someone would happen to have a set and a bro that matched with the purple really well. It's a good idea for me to look in that thread though, cheers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Sat, 07 November 2015, 23:09:28
    Quote from: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:48:46
    Relatively speaking are all Bros equal?

    As in, would a rustler or something from the Halloween sale be able to be traded with a Grumpkin, Lycan, Zombro be able to be traded 1:1 for a brobot or a reaper?

    Trades are generally determined by what each party wants, so those trades could definitely happen. Generally though, I find most people consider older caps more rare, and may not straight up trade one for a newer cap (although if they want one, they may). When it comes to artisan trades, as long as each side is happy, it was a good trade :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 November 2015, 23:26:30
    Quote from: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 23:01:06
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:52:11
    Quote from: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:48:46
    Relatively speaking are all Bros equal?

    As in, would a rustler or something from the Halloween sale be able to be traded with a Grumpkin, Lycan, Zombro be able to be traded 1:1 for a brobot or a reaper?


    Isn't this belong into one of the dedicated Bro threads / subforum?

    Sorry if I posted it in the wrong section! I figured I would post it here as it keycap related and a pretty straight forward question!


    Do not be sorry, you may have some answers here, it was just to comment that there are threads focus on Bro things, as this thread is in the keyboard subforum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 1swt2gs on Sun, 08 November 2015, 00:22:21
    Quote from: byker on Sat, 07 November 2015, 23:09:28
    Quote from: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:48:46
    Relatively speaking are all Bros equal?

    As in, would a rustler or something from the Halloween sale be able to be traded with a Grumpkin, Lycan, Zombro be able to be traded 1:1 for a brobot or a reaper?

    Trades are generally determined by what each party wants, so those trades could definitely happen. Generally though, I find most people consider older caps more rare, and may not straight up trade one for a newer cap (although if they want one, they may). When it comes to artisan trades, as long as each side is happy, it was a good trade :)

    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 07 November 2015, 23:26:30
    Quote from: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 23:01:06
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:52:11
    Quote from: 1swt2gs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:48:46
    Relatively speaking are all Bros equal?

    As in, would a rustler or something from the Halloween sale be able to be traded with a Grumpkin, Lycan, Zombro be able to be traded 1:1 for a brobot or a reaper?


    Isn't this belong into one of the dedicated Bro threads / subforum?

    Sorry if I posted it in the wrong section! I figured I would post it here as it keycap related and a pretty straight forward question!


    Do not be sorry, you may have some answers here, it was just to comment that there are threads focus on Bro things, as this thread is in the keyboard subforum.

    Thanks for the answers! Looking to acquire my first Bro or reaper, and finally have something hopefully worth trading!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sun, 08 November 2015, 09:22:46
    When designing custom keyboards, everyone uses a 16MHz crystal. Is there any technical problem to use crystals with different frequencies, like 12MHz or 20MHz? On the firmware side it is just a matter of changing the frequency on the makefile, but I don't know if there is any issue with USB communication.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 08 November 2015, 09:56:44
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sun, 08 November 2015, 10:22:38
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 08 November 2015, 09:56:44
    Quote from: VinnyCordeiro on Sun, 08 November 2015, 09:22:46
    When designing custom keyboards, everyone uses a 16MHz crystal. Is there any technical problem to use crystals with different frequencies, like 12MHz or 20MHz? On the firmware side it is just a matter of changing the frequency on the makefile, but I don't know if there is any issue with USB communication.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's because ATmel ic's are typically used which like to run at 16mhz.  Probably could use different frequencies, but the timing may be affected?
    But that is precisely what I want to know. I already saw an old PlayStation-to-USB adapter project that used a 12MHz crystal, so I'm under the impression that it isn't an issue.

    It seems that I will need to make an experiment to know that. Better use a through hole crystal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dante on Sun, 08 November 2015, 20:16:59
    Does the Unicomp 103/104 (non Classic) use a metal backplate?  I haven't/don't want to open mine but I've heard either A) there is no backplate or B) there is one but it is very thin.

    Assuming there is one - will this also have all the plastic rivets that will break in time?  If there isn't one - will there be anything to be concerned with 5+ years later?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 November 2015, 21:34:13
    Quote from: dante on Sun, 08 November 2015, 20:16:59
    Does the Unicomp 103/104 (non Classic) use a metal backplate?  I haven't/don't want to open mine but I've heard either A) there is no backplate or B) there is one but it is very thin.

    Assuming there is one - will this also have all the plastic rivets that will break in time?  If there isn't one - will there be anything to be concerned with 5+ years later?

    I opened up a Wildcats board because that's what I had laying out that's Unicomp. I don't have a 103 or 104. Yes there was a backplate. You can judge the thickness. Yes there are rivets. Looks like an M as far as I can tell. So everything you have to worry about with an M you'll have to worry about with the Unicomp board.

    (http://i.imgur.com/Q9k0bDW.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/0RIP7W8.jpg)

    Don't bump your questions please.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Mon, 09 November 2015, 06:52:50
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:54:24
    Quote from: pabile on Sat, 07 November 2015, 20:07:31
    this is the back of din plugs i will be using for an external converter. are the pin assignments correct for model m?

    I always refer to this: (remember this is the socket, not the plug)

    thanks, fohat! my re-trace seem to match the DIN 45322 guide (see bottom plug; top is for my videcom)
    (http://i.imgur.com/eAHJv9I.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 09 November 2015, 11:44:33
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 November 2015, 13:24:50
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 09 November 2015, 11:44:33
    How do I remove ink from abs keys?

    Baby wipes, cleaning wipes, and isopropyl alcohol all have worked for me. I've spilled fountain pen ink on my boards more than I care to admit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 09 November 2015, 13:48:21
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 09 November 2015, 14:13:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 November 2015, 13:24:50
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 09 November 2015, 11:44:33
    How do I remove ink from abs keys?

    Baby wipes, cleaning wipes, and isopropyl alcohol all have worked for me. I've spilled fountain pen ink on my boards more than I care to admit.
    That makes two of us. :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:25:27
    Is it possible to remap the F-row keys on the SSK to the media keys for OS X?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:52:31
    Quote from: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:25:27
    Is it possible to remap the F-row keys on the SSK to the media keys for OS X?

    I think if you throw a Teensy in it, you can.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:54:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:52:31
    Quote from: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:25:27
    Is it possible to remap the F-row keys on the SSK to the media keys for OS X?

    I think if you throw a Teensy in it, you can.

    So no way to do it with the stock controller huh?

    Thanks Cap!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:57:39
    Quote from: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:25:27
    So no way to do it with the stock controller huh?

    Thanks Cap!

    No unfortunately I don't think you can do any remapping at all with stock M controllers. I'm 95% sure you'll need to mod it with a Teensy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 09 November 2015, 21:36:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:57:39
    Quote from: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:25:27
    So no way to do it with the stock controller huh?

    Thanks Cap!

    No unfortunately I don't think you can do any remapping at all with stock M controllers. I'm 95% sure you'll need to mod it with a Teensy.

    Or one of Phosphorglow's "Universal Model M Controllers"

    http://phosphorglow.net/store/products/universal-model-m-usb-controller/ (http://phosphorglow.net/store/products/universal-model-m-usb-controller/)

    (http://i.imgur.com/0ZT1kUF.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 November 2015, 21:38:34
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 09 November 2015, 21:36:33
    Or one of Phosphorglow's "Universal Model M Controllers"

    http://phosphorglow.net/store/products/universal-model-m-usb-controller/ (http://phosphorglow.net/store/products/universal-model-m-usb-controller/)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/0ZT1kUF.jpg)


    CommonCurt good catch man. I definitely forgot about that!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 21:44:21
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 09 November 2015, 21:36:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:57:39
    Quote from: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:25:27
    So no way to do it with the stock controller huh?

    Thanks Cap!

    No unfortunately I don't think you can do any remapping at all with stock M controllers. I'm 95% sure you'll need to mod it with a Teensy.

    Or one of Phosphorglow's "Universal Model M Controllers"

    http://phosphorglow.net/store/products/universal-model-m-usb-controller/ (http://phosphorglow.net/store/products/universal-model-m-usb-controller/)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/0ZT1kUF.jpg)


    Yeah I'm getting that one so I can use custom USB cables too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 09 November 2015, 22:03:50
    Quote from: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 21:44:21
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 09 November 2015, 21:36:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:57:39
    Quote from: raymogi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 19:25:27
    So no way to do it with the stock controller huh?

    Thanks Cap!

    No unfortunately I don't think you can do any remapping at all with stock M controllers. I'm 95% sure you'll need to mod it with a Teensy.

    Or one of Phosphorglow's "Universal Model M Controllers"

    http://phosphorglow.net/store/products/universal-model-m-usb-controller/ (http://phosphorglow.net/store/products/universal-model-m-usb-controller/)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/0ZT1kUF.jpg)


    Yeah I'm getting that one so I can use custom USB cables too.

    Got one in my SSk, and I love it  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 09 November 2015, 23:43:44
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:01:35
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    They will not let you send priority boxes first class. You could wrap them in brown shipping paper, but that has the chance to fall off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:26:30
    Quote from: trees on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:01:35
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    They will not let you send priority boxes first class. You could wrap them in brown shipping paper, but that has the chance to fall off.

    OK thank you for the quick answer!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:33:13
    Quote from: trees on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:01:35
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    They will not let you send priority boxes first class. You could wrap them in brown shipping paper, but that has the chance to fall off.

    You'll run the risk that if they see the priority mail box at all, you or the recipient will get slapped with the fee for trying to dodge paying. I don't know how likely that is but it is a risk.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:59:59
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    Since I'm a cheap bum, I save a lot of the boxes for packages that I receive, so there's been a few times I've sent out international first class packages with a USPS priority mail box. That said, I did buy a label online for the correct postage, and it was a package pick up (just leaving a note to grab the package off the porch, safe neighborhood), which tbh, has a bit more leeway compared to dropping a package of at the PO.

    As long as you buy the correct postage for the box, it should be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 11 November 2015, 13:49:49
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    My Office Depot has a mailing center in the print area. They almost always have the game board boxes. It will be $78 but probably not much more than other postage (well, with the keyboards I use, anyway - little plastic ones may go in the $50 range).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 11 November 2015, 13:54:54
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 November 2015, 14:00:03
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 11 November 2015, 13:49:49
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    My Office Depot has a mailing center in the print area. They almost always have the game board boxes. It will be $78 but probably not much more than other postage (well, with the keyboards I use, anyway - little plastic ones may go in the $50 range).

    Depending on size and weight you can easily get closer to $55 using your own box using priority international and definitely cheaper if the weight is low enough to go first class international using your own box. The last model m I shipped to the UK was ~$64 but I put quite a bit of other stuff in that box.

    But as others have said I wouldn't even attempt to ship a probity box first class.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 14:26:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:33:13
    Quote from: trees on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:01:35
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    They will not let you send priority boxes first class. You could wrap them in brown shipping paper, but that has the chance to fall off.

    You'll run the risk that if they see the priority mail box at all, you or the recipient will get slapped with the fee for trying to dodge paying. I don't know how likely that is but it is a risk.

    I think I can find another box; my risk tolerance is not very high.

    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:59:59
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    Since I'm a cheap bum, I save a lot of the boxes for packages that I receive, so there's been a few times I've sent out international first class packages with a USPS priority mail box. That said, I did buy a label online for the correct postage, and it was a package pick up (just leaving a note to grab the package off the porch, safe neighborhood), which tbh, has a bit more leeway compared to dropping a package of at the PO.

    As long as you buy the correct postage for the box, it should be fine.

    You are a braver man than me  :-*

    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 11 November 2015, 13:49:49
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    My Office Depot has a mailing center in the print area. They almost always have the game board boxes. It will be $78 but probably not much more than other postage (well, with the keyboards I use, anyway - little plastic ones may go in the $50 range).

    I'm hoping I can get it cheaper/smaller than the ole board game box.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 11 November 2015, 13:54:54
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:26:30
    Quote from: trees on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:01:35
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    They will not let you send priority boxes first class. You could wrap them in brown shipping paper, but that has the chance to fall off.

    OK thank you for the quick answer!

    You could desolder the switches and remove caps and probably fit everything in a small flat rate box if the case and pcb aren't needed.

    lol I don't think so bro

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 November 2015, 14:00:03
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 11 November 2015, 13:49:49
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 09:58:37
    I'm shipping a keyboard to Singapore.  I have 2x of the ~9x13x2.5 inch USPS Priority boxes.  Can I stagger/nest them to fit the board, and send it using normal USPS First Class?  Or do I have to use Priority if I'm using Priority boxes?

    My Office Depot has a mailing center in the print area. They almost always have the game board boxes. It will be $78 but probably not much more than other postage (well, with the keyboards I use, anyway - little plastic ones may go in the $50 range).

    Depending on size and weight you can easily get closer to $55 using your own box using priority international and definitely cheaper if the weight is low enough to go first class international using your own box. The last model m I shipped to the UK was ~$64 but I put quite a bit of other stuff in that box.

    But as others have said I wouldn't even attempt to ship a probity box first class.

    I think I will try to find my own box and do first class.  He's paying shipping, so I'll present him with the different options and let him decide.

    If I he does decide to do priority, can I use the two priority boxes nested or do I have to use only one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 November 2015, 14:45:08
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 14:26:40
    If I he does decide to do priority, can I use the two priority boxes nested or do I have to use only one?

    So long as its sturdy and well put together it shouldn't matter. But I do agree with fohat the gameboard boxes are the way to go if you want to ship a large keyboard priority. The keyboard I sent that is on its way to you was sent in a gameboard box, so you could possibly re-use it if that is how you decide to go.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Wed, 11 November 2015, 18:55:15
    Whats a good source for USB cable wire? Preferably on amazon?

    Also I'm a bit confused about paracord, is there any specific size or type I need to purchase for custom cables?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 11 November 2015, 19:38:28
    Quote from: Dernubenfrieken on Wed, 11 November 2015, 18:55:15
    Whats a good source for USB cable wire? Preferably on amazon?

    Also I'm a bit confused about paracord, is there any specific size or type I need to purchase for custom cables?

    Monoprice cables are popular for using as bases for custom cables and I know of some pretty well know cable makers who use monoprice cables. :)

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/160814471418

    This is generally what you should look out for. I've used this stuff a few times. 550, Type III, though there are wider paracord types and then there's also techflex or PET plastic sleeving that is popular for doing double sleeved cables (usually over the top of paracord).

    There's also a bunch of varieties of shrink tubing you can get. I like high ratio shrink tube like 3:1 or 4:1. At those ratios, you can just buy some 1/2" tube and it will hold snug against both the connector and cable without the need for additional shrink tubing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: myotherteeshirt on Thu, 12 November 2015, 01:15:02
    Hi there!

    I recently opened a quickfire TK to install zealios switches as well as fix a broken trace - Everything worked perfectly, no chatter as reported by some people, no early actuation either.

    Fast forward a week and now my keyboard is going crazy. Some keypresses don't register, and sometimes they appear after a 10 second delay, but only sporadically - so if i typed "the quick brown fox" it may show up as "tquuuuuuuukbfffffffff".

    Any idea on what the problem may be or where i can start attempting to diagnose it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 November 2015, 07:34:52
    Quote from: myotherteeshirt on Thu, 12 November 2015, 01:15:02
    Hi there!

    I recently opened a quickfire TK to install zealios switches as well as fix a broken trace - Everything worked perfectly, no chatter as reported by some people, no early actuation either.

    Fast forward a week and now my keyboard is going crazy. Some keypresses don't register, and sometimes they appear after a 10 second delay, but only sporadically - so if i typed "the quick brown fox" it may show up as "tquuuuuuuukbfffffffff".

    Any idea on what the problem may be or where i can start attempting to diagnose it?
    I'd get a multimeter and check all your soldering connections. Might have a cold soldering joint.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: myotherteeshirt on Thu, 12 November 2015, 08:33:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 November 2015, 07:34:52
    I'd get a multimeter and check all your soldering connections. Might have a cold soldering joint.

    I'm curious,  how would a cold solder joint affect all the keys on the board?

    I'll def do the multimeter thing. Is there a resource somewhere where I can see a circuit diagram of how a keyboard is wired?

    I assume the basic wiring is similar for most keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 November 2015, 09:29:48
    Quote from: myotherteeshirt on Thu, 12 November 2015, 08:33:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 November 2015, 07:34:52
    I'd get a multimeter and check all your soldering connections. Might have a cold soldering joint.

    I'm curious,  how would a cold solder joint affect all the keys on the board?

    I'll def do the multimeter thing. Is there a resource somewhere where I can see a circuit diagram of how a keyboard is wired?

    I assume the basic wiring is similar for most keyboards?

    The soldering might be throwing off how the matrix is being sensed or strobed. I don't know about a circuit diagram nor can I give you a definitive answer as to why your keyboard is chattering. I just know that I've had a similar issue and that's how I solved it.

    I've also had the same issue and solved it by putting some drawer liner between the PCB and the bottom of the case. For some reason the PCB acted up when it touched the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 12 November 2015, 10:59:16
    Yeah, when just one thing is connected wrong it can give the weirdest errors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Thu, 12 November 2015, 12:12:34
    Does GH have a section where people just post images of their builds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 November 2015, 12:15:37
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 12 November 2015, 12:12:34
    Does GH have a section where people just post images of their builds?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=113.0 - This is where a lot of pictures go in general.
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=117.0 - A lot of build logs go in here.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: myotherteeshirt on Thu, 12 November 2015, 18:05:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 November 2015, 09:29:48

    The soldering might be throwing off how the matrix is being sensed or strobed. I don't know about a circuit diagram nor can I give you a definitive answer as to why your keyboard is chattering. I just know that I've had a similar issue and that's how I solved it.

    I've also had the same issue and solved it by putting some drawer liner between the PCB and the bottom of the case. For some reason the PCB acted up when it touched the case.

    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 12 November 2015, 10:59:16
    Yeah, when just one thing is connected wrong it can give the weirdest errors.

    Ok. I'm pretty sure there were some joints that were less than acceptable, so i'll take a look at that again. I guess it makes sense that if it were set up in a matrix then one bad joint might mess with the signals. One more question though - if you had to put liner between your PCB and case - could it have been a static/grounding issue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 November 2015, 18:06:06
    Quote from: myotherteeshirt on Thu, 12 November 2015, 18:05:13
    One more question though - if you had to put liner between your PCB and case - could it have been a static/grounding issue?

    I believe it was yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: myotherteeshirt on Thu, 12 November 2015, 20:06:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 November 2015, 18:06:06
    Quote from: myotherteeshirt on Thu, 12 November 2015, 18:05:13
    One more question though - if you had to put liner between your PCB and case - could it have been a static/grounding issue?

    I believe it was yes.

    Ah. well i may have covered the top of the screw hole with spray paint - the one that the ground wire is screwed on to. I guess thats something i should look into.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: edb5s on Fri, 13 November 2015, 07:44:58
    So I found an interesting board on an auction site I frequent: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Atari-1040ST-PC-Keyboard--Thomson-Monitor-Base-25610947.html

    Anyone have any details about this board, specifically what switches it uses?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 13 November 2015, 08:37:24
    Quote from: edb5s on Fri, 13 November 2015, 07:44:58
    So I found an interesting board on an auction site I frequent: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Atari-1040ST-PC-Keyboard--Thomson-Monitor-Base-25610947.html

    Anyone have any details about this board, specifically what switches it uses?

    Dome
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: edb5s on Fri, 13 November 2015, 08:57:32
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 13 November 2015, 08:37:24
    Quote from: edb5s on Fri, 13 November 2015, 07:44:58
    So I found an interesting board on an auction site I frequent: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Atari-1040ST-PC-Keyboard--Thomson-Monitor-Base-25610947.html

    Anyone have any details about this board, specifically what switches it uses?

    Dome

    OK thanks.

    As an aside, that website from time to time has great deals. I missed out on a Filco Majestouch (http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Filco-Majestouch-Computer--PC-Keyboard-Blank-Keys-24074664.html) that ended up going for $46.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Sun, 15 November 2015, 03:18:02
    Hello, i'am looking for IBM buckling spring spring dimension :

    (https://www.centuryspring.com/images/info/spring_measurement_compression.jpg)

    I need the Length and the Diameter, could someone give me this information ?

    Thanks.


    Eugene
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Sun, 15 November 2015, 12:16:37
    If I have a post about something small that I've made, yet I'm also going to give it away (for free), then where would be best to post that? Free Stuff? Making stuff together? Or in two separate posts?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 15 November 2015, 14:19:47
    Quote from: cryptokey on Sun, 15 November 2015, 12:16:37
    If I have a post about something small that I've made, yet I'm also going to give it away (for free), then where would be best to post that? Free Stuff? Making stuff together? Or in two separate posts?

    It's all about the intent.  If you're intending to both share a build log and give it away, it's probably best to make a thread in MST and a separate thread in Off Topic (or a post in the Free Stuff thread).  Giveaways don't really belong in MST though, so in any case there should be a post outside of MST for that portion - and then a MST thread if you want to share that.  Hope that makes sense.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: myotherteeshirt on Sun, 15 November 2015, 17:36:18
    Would it be possible to use sip sockets and some filing to make a razer orbweaver plug n play with switches? Or make it so the switches can be opened without desoldering? Basically the purpose would be to switch out switches to try out different spring weights.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sun, 15 November 2015, 17:59:58
    Quote from: myotherteeshirt on Sun, 15 November 2015, 17:36:18
    Would it be possible to use sip sockets and some filing to make a razer orbweaver plug n play with switches? Or make it so the switches can be opened without desoldering? Basically the purpose would be to switch out switches to try out different spring weights.

    As I say to everyone who brings up hotswapping, this guide on LinusTechTips is probably the best to follow and the PCB receptacles he uses are a great choice for this kind of mod.

    http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/430702-custom-keyboard-hot-swapable-switch-build/

    To narrow it down:

    For switches: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/8134-HC-8P3/A114359-ND/1151726

    For LEDs: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/6-1437514-7/6-1437514-7-ND/2135766

    They aren't cheap though. You can find cheaper alternatives outside of the holtite range, but holtites are the only sockets that allow a very flush fit and they do not require solder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 18:04:20
    Quote from: myotherteeshirt on Sun, 15 November 2015, 17:36:18
    Would it be possible to use sip sockets and some filing to make a razer orbweaver plug n play with switches? Or make it so the switches can be opened without desoldering? Basically the purpose would be to switch out switches to try out different spring weights.

    E3E's post looks great but if you'd like some more reading, check out these threads for some information about hot-swappable switches:

    Feng's Smart 68 keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61714.0)
    Making my PCB hot swappable (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62039.0)
    Deelong's keyboard with hot plug switches (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41004.0)

    Quote from: Eugene45 on Sun, 15 November 2015, 03:18:02
    Hello, i'am looking for IBM buckling spring spring dimension :

    Show Image
    (https://www.centuryspring.com/images/info/spring_measurement_compression.jpg)


    I need the Length and the Diameter, could someone give me this information ?

    Couldn't find the measurements off hand but perhaps these patents have them (http://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_buckling_spring#References)?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pnoozi on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:12:37
    What are the requirements for the mini-USB cable on the QFR?  The original cable it comes with is pretty bad, it's stiff, oddly textured, collects dust, and the mini-USB connection is bent.

    Would this work? :|

    http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8633&seq=1&format=2

    I tried some old mini-USB cables I had laying around but they all caused the keyboard to behave weirdly (type random extra characters, skip characters, etc.).  That cable from Monoprice is described as "28/24AWG Cable w/ Ferrite Core (Gold Plated)".  Good enough, hopefully?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:16:15
    Quote from: pnoozi on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:12:37
    What are the requirements for the mini-USB cable on the QFR?  The original cable it comes with is pretty bad, it's stiff, oddly textured, collects dust, and the mini-USB connection is bent.

    Would this work? :|

    http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8633&seq=1&format=2

    I tried some old mini-USB cables I had laying around but they all caused the keyboard to behave weirdly (type random extra characters, skip characters, etc.).  That cable from Monoprice is described as "28/24AWG Cable w/ Ferrite Core (Gold Plated)".  Good enough, hopefully?
    Any mini usb cable will work. The monoprice one will be fine. There's also some vendors like techkeys, mimic cables, and pexon that offer customized cables for boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:16:15
    Quote from: pnoozi on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:12:37
    What are the requirements for the mini-USB cable on the QFR?  The original cable it comes with is pretty bad, it's stiff, oddly textured, collects dust, and the mini-USB connection is bent.

    Would this work? :|

    http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8633&seq=1&format=2

    I tried some old mini-USB cables I had laying around but they all caused the keyboard to behave weirdly (type random extra characters, skip characters, etc.).  That cable from Monoprice is described as "28/24AWG Cable w/ Ferrite Core (Gold Plated)".  Good enough, hopefully?
    Any mini usb cable will work. The monoprice one will be fine. There's also some vendors like techkeys, mimic cables, and pexon that offer customized cables for boards.

    What about ZealPC? He's da best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:35
    Quote from: Karura on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:16:15
    Quote from: pnoozi on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:12:37
    What are the requirements for the mini-USB cable on the QFR?  The original cable it comes with is pretty bad, it's stiff, oddly textured, collects dust, and the mini-USB connection is bent.

    Would this work? :|

    http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8633&seq=1&format=2

    I tried some old mini-USB cables I had laying around but they all caused the keyboard to behave weirdly (type random extra characters, skip characters, etc.).  That cable from Monoprice is described as "28/24AWG Cable w/ Ferrite Core (Gold Plated)".  Good enough, hopefully?
    Any mini usb cable will work. The monoprice one will be fine. There's also some vendors like techkeys, mimic cables, and pexon that offer customized cables for boards.

    What about ZealPC? He's da best.

    Thought he was taking a break from cables?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 03:11:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 18:04:20
    Quote from: myotherteeshirt on Sun, 15 November 2015, 17:36:18
    Would it be possible to use sip sockets and some filing to make a razer orbweaver plug n play with switches? Or make it so the switches can be opened without desoldering? Basically the purpose would be to switch out switches to try out different spring weights.

    E3E's post looks great but if you'd like some more reading, check out these threads for some information about hot-swappable switches:

    Feng's Smart 68 keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61714.0)
    Making my PCB hot swappable (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62039.0)
    Deelong's keyboard with hot plug switches (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41004.0)

    Quote from: Eugene45 on Sun, 15 November 2015, 03:18:02
    Hello, i'am looking for IBM buckling spring spring dimension :

    Show Image
    (https://www.centuryspring.com/images/info/spring_measurement_compression.jpg)


    I need the Length and the Diameter, could someone give me this information ?

    Couldn't find the measurements off hand but perhaps these patents have them (http://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_buckling_spring#References)?

    No dimensions, the number are just here to explian how it work, thanks captain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MeltingTeeth on Mon, 16 November 2015, 13:36:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:35
    Quote from: Karura on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:16:15
    Quote from: pnoozi on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:12:37
    What are the requirements for the mini-USB cable on the QFR?  The original cable it comes with is pretty bad, it's stiff, oddly textured, collects dust, and the mini-USB connection is bent.

    Would this work? :|

    http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8633&seq=1&format=2

    I tried some old mini-USB cables I had laying around but they all caused the keyboard to behave weirdly (type random extra characters, skip characters, etc.).  That cable from Monoprice is described as "28/24AWG Cable w/ Ferrite Core (Gold Plated)".  Good enough, hopefully?
    Any mini usb cable will work. The monoprice one will be fine. There's also some vendors like techkeys, mimic cables, and pexon that offer customized cables for boards.

    What about ZealPC? He's da best.

    Thought he was taking a break from cables?

    Damn. I was thinking of getting one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 16 November 2015, 14:07:13
    Quote from: MeltingTeeth on Mon, 16 November 2015, 13:36:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:35
    Quote from: Karura on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:16:15
    Quote from: pnoozi on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:12:37
    What are the requirements for the mini-USB cable on the QFR?  The original cable it comes with is pretty bad, it's stiff, oddly textured, collects dust, and the mini-USB connection is bent.

    Would this work? :|

    http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8633&seq=1&format=2

    I tried some old mini-USB cables I had laying around but they all caused the keyboard to behave weirdly (type random extra characters, skip characters, etc.).  That cable from Monoprice is described as "28/24AWG Cable w/ Ferrite Core (Gold Plated)".  Good enough, hopefully?
    Any mini usb cable will work. The monoprice one will be fine. There's also some vendors like techkeys, mimic cables, and pexon that offer customized cables for boards.

    What about ZealPC? He's da best.

    Thought he was taking a break from cables?

    Damn. I was thinking of getting one.

    There's plenty of great cable makers out there. I forget the name exactly but 901NINE or someone similar on /r/mechmarket makes great cables from the US. Pexon obv if you're in the UK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trees on Mon, 16 November 2015, 14:11:50
    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 16 November 2015, 14:07:13
    Quote from: MeltingTeeth on Mon, 16 November 2015, 13:36:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:35
    Quote from: Karura on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:16:15
    Quote from: pnoozi on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:12:37
    What are the requirements for the mini-USB cable on the QFR?  The original cable it comes with is pretty bad, it's stiff, oddly textured, collects dust, and the mini-USB connection is bent.

    Would this work? :|

    http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8633&seq=1&format=2

    I tried some old mini-USB cables I had laying around but they all caused the keyboard to behave weirdly (type random extra characters, skip characters, etc.).  That cable from Monoprice is described as "28/24AWG Cable w/ Ferrite Core (Gold Plated)".  Good enough, hopefully?
    Any mini usb cable will work. The monoprice one will be fine. There's also some vendors like techkeys, mimic cables, and pexon that offer customized cables for boards.

    What about ZealPC? He's da best.

    Thought he was taking a break from cables?

    Damn. I was thinking of getting one.

    There's plenty of great cable makers out there. I forget the name exactly but 901NINE or someone similar on /r/mechmarket makes great cables from the US. Pexon obv if you're in the UK.

    90N1NE, and his order form is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1O8-y3vcuR8QClX1kB-gxhwCaVJ4b8tqBf4mBuyMltoc/viewform?edit_requested=true

    Makes great cables, all the ones i have are from him!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 16 November 2015, 15:13:27
    Quote from: trees on Mon, 16 November 2015, 14:11:50
    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 16 November 2015, 14:07:13
    Quote from: MeltingTeeth on Mon, 16 November 2015, 13:36:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:35
    Quote from: Karura on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:25:09
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:16:15
    Quote from: pnoozi on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:12:37
    What are the requirements for the mini-USB cable on the QFR?  The original cable it comes with is pretty bad, it's stiff, oddly textured, collects dust, and the mini-USB connection is bent.

    Would this work? :|

    http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8633&seq=1&format=2

    I tried some old mini-USB cables I had laying around but they all caused the keyboard to behave weirdly (type random extra characters, skip characters, etc.).  That cable from Monoprice is described as "28/24AWG Cable w/ Ferrite Core (Gold Plated)".  Good enough, hopefully?
    Any mini usb cable will work. The monoprice one will be fine. There's also some vendors like techkeys, mimic cables, and pexon that offer customized cables for boards.

    What about ZealPC? He's da best.

    Thought he was taking a break from cables?

    Damn. I was thinking of getting one.

    There's plenty of great cable makers out there. I forget the name exactly but 901NINE or someone similar on /r/mechmarket makes great cables from the US. Pexon obv if you're in the UK.

    90N1NE, and his order form is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1O8-y3vcuR8QClX1kB-gxhwCaVJ4b8tqBf4mBuyMltoc/viewform?edit_requested=true

    Makes great cables, all the ones i have are from him!

    Haha, I thought I was close. Thanks for the clarification. Yep, he makes some fantastic cables and has lent some very helpful tips for creating quality cables when I've asked for assistance in the past. Seems like a great guy. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Karura on Mon, 16 November 2015, 18:49:52
    How do I desolder alps? Is there a guide to avoid doing it wrong?

    Also what about assembling alps, or alps stabilizers? I'm assembling a Hasu 60 AEK2 and would appreciate any sort of guide, video or advice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 16 November 2015, 19:01:19
    Quote from: Karura on Mon, 16 November 2015, 18:49:52
    How do I desolder alps? Is there a guide to avoid doing it wrong?

    If the legs are not bent over, they come out pretty easily.

    When the legs are bent over, it becomes a nightmare. I have not mastered the technique, and have at least 2 wrecked Northgate 101 PCBs to show for it, but you need to suck up as much of the old solder as possible, then melt whatever remains with one hand while gently prying up the bent leg with a very small flat-head screwdriver in the other. If you can successfully straighten the leg and remove almost all of the solder without lifting the pad, it should pull out without further drama.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 19:07:12
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 16 November 2015, 19:12:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 19:07:12
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 16 November 2015, 19:01:19
    Quote from: Karura on Mon, 16 November 2015, 18:49:52
    How do I desolder alps? Is there a guide to avoid doing it wrong?

    If the legs are not bent over, they come out pretty easily.

    When the legs are bent over, it becomes a nightmare. I have not mastered the technique, and have at least 2 wrecked Northgate 101 PCBs to show for it, but you need to suck up as much of the old solder as possible, then melt whatever remains with one hand while gently prying up the bent leg with a very small flat-head screwdriver in the other. If you can successfully straighten the leg and remove almost all of the solder without lifting the pad, it should pull out without further drama.

    I used soldering wick as well after desoldering, and it can be really tricky to save the original pcb

    I have used tweezers while applying heat to the joint, then using my desolderin iron or a solder sucker to get the solder off of the pin, but that has given me mixed results. I then started using the nozzle to my desoldering iron to bend the pins up while it also applied heat, but to be honest, this could break things on the iron which isn't a good idea.

    Really, there is no perfect technique. On the AEK I desoldered, the pins broke with tweezers but worked fine with the nozzle method. On a DC-2014, the nozzle method worked perfectly. On the Dell AT101 I restored, the nozzle was not very effective and broke pins, and tweezers turned out to be the best method for it.

    Durability varies, I guess. Sometimes you get lucky, other times, ya wreck it.

    The only Alps boards I've desoldered without ANY bent over pins were the NTC 6151N with blue alps and my Fame TH-5539 also with blue alps. Both boards also had an odd quirk of being MXAlps compatible, allowing either switch type to be used, though I think neither ever had an example of using MX switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pnoozi on Mon, 16 November 2015, 21:09:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 22:16:15
    Any mini usb cable will work. The monoprice one will be fine. There's also some vendors like techkeys, mimic cables, and pexon that offer customized cables for boards.

    Quote from: trees on Mon, 16 November 2015, 14:11:50
    90N1NE, and his order form is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1O8-y3vcuR8QClX1kB-gxhwCaVJ4b8tqBf4mBuyMltoc/viewform?edit_requested=true

    Makes great cables, all the ones i have are from him!

    Wow!  Thanks.  Will have to keep this in mind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Mon, 16 November 2015, 21:46:58
    How do I remove a G81-1800 case from the pcb and backplate? I've tried pressing on the tabs on the back and they've come undone but the bottom (where the spacebar, arrow keys, 0, . on numpad) are still holding onto the top part of the case. Are there hidden screws or something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 21:51:22
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Mon, 16 November 2015, 21:55:21
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 21:51:22
    Quote from: mason on Mon, 16 November 2015, 21:46:58
    How do I remove a G81-1800 case from the pcb and backplate? I've tried pressing on the tabs on the back and they've come undone but the bottom (where the spacebar, arrow keys, 0, . on numpad) are still holding onto the top part of the case. Are there hidden screws or something?

    If there are stickers that look like circles (not the label that says g80/g81!!!) they may be two screws under them.  My g81-1800 had them.

    Thank you so much!  :) :) :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Tue, 17 November 2015, 03:45:28
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Sun, 15 November 2015, 03:18:02
    Hello, i'am looking for IBM buckling spring spring dimension :

    Show Image
    (https://www.centuryspring.com/images/info/spring_measurement_compression.jpg)


    I need the Length and the Diameter, could someone give me this information ?

    Thanks.


    Eugene

    Just a heads up, got a response from Unicomp :

    Quote
    Design information is proprietary.

    Best regards,

    Customer Service

    and a response from Clicky keyboard

    Quote
    Thanks for contacting us.

    We do have several of the replacement springs available, but we do not have the measurement tools to provide the measurements that you are looking for.

    Best regards,
    Brandon Ermita


    So yeah still looking.

    If someone eventualy just have a spring and could take a look at the length and the diameter it would be realy great.

    Thanks

    Eugene
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 November 2015, 06:31:05
    Quote from: Karura on Mon, 16 November 2015, 18:49:52
    1) How do I desolder alps? Is there a guide to avoid doing it wrong?

    2) Also what about assembling alps, or alps stabilizers? I'm assembling a Hasu 60 AEK2 and would appreciate any sort of guide, video or advice.

    1) Just like you desolder MX except you might have to unfold the folded over legs. I use a small screwdriver to do this.

    2) Alps stabilizers are a bit confusing. They can come in multiple forms. Generally I think they come in the MX-styled stems and like squared Alps stems. They're like Costar for MX switches. I think you can just mix and match the inserts with Matias or salvaged wires to get them to work for your keyboard.

    Quote from: Eugene45 on Tue, 17 November 2015, 03:45:28
    Hello, i'am looking for IBM buckling spring spring dimension

    Snip (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1938633#msg1938633)

    Don't bump your questions. I can give you an inaccurate measurement of a Model M if you're desperate but I don't think my calipers are the right tool to measure what you want. Is there a reason you're so desperate for the measurements and can't just buy the springs from Unicomp?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 17 November 2015, 07:43:41
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 November 2015, 06:31:05
    Is there a reason you're so desperate for the measurements and can't just buy the springs from Unicomp?

    He may be on the Grail Quest of looking for replacement springs with better characteristics. Personally, I would love lighter ones.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:24:08
    Are SA caps supposed to be a little wobbly on MX switches? I just put a set on and it doesn't feel loose on the stem, but rather I can push it forward and backward a fair amount with little effort. Seems a little wiggly but maybe that's just how they are supposed to be.

    If this is a known issue, are there any modifications I can do to fix it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 November 2015, 10:06:25
    Quote from: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:24:08
    Are SA caps supposed to be a little wobbly on MX switches? I just put a set on and it doesn't feel loose on the stem, but rather I can push it forward and backward a fair amount with little effort. Seems a little wiggly but maybe that's just how they are supposed to be.

    If this is a known issue, are there any modifications I can do to fix it?

    I've never had that issue but you can try putting something to shim up the cap (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1291102#msg1291102).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 10:20:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 November 2015, 10:06:25
    Quote from: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:24:08
    Are SA caps supposed to be a little wobbly on MX switches? I just put a set on and it doesn't feel loose on the stem, but rather I can push it forward and backward a fair amount with little effort. Seems a little wiggly but maybe that's just how they are supposed to be.

    If this is a known issue, are there any modifications I can do to fix it?

    I've never had that issue but you can try putting something to shim up the cap (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1291102#msg1291102).

    Hmm it doesn't seem to be a stablizer key issue but rather the alphas I'm concerned about. I'll try them on a different board when I get home and see if the problem persists.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 November 2015, 10:38:52
    Quote from: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 10:20:00
    Hmm it doesn't seem to be a stablizer key issue but rather the alphas I'm concerned about. I'll try them on a different board when I get home and see if the problem persists.

    Ok but the same logic applies. It's worth trying at least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:20:25
    Quote from: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:24:08
    Are SA caps supposed to be a little wobbly on MX switches? I just put a set on and it doesn't feel loose on the stem, but rather I can push it forward and backward a fair amount with little effort. Seems a little wiggly but maybe that's just how they are supposed to be.

    If this is a known issue, are there any modifications I can do to fix it?

    I don't think it's the cap wiggling on the stem you're feeling. It's the stem wiggling in the switch housing. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do about that. It's just inherent in the design of the switches. Some have tried to reduce movement by installing switch stickers, but the effect is minimal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:25:25
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:20:25
    Quote from: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:24:08
    Are SA caps supposed to be a little wobbly on MX switches? I just put a set on and it doesn't feel loose on the stem, but rather I can push it forward and backward a fair amount with little effort. Seems a little wiggly but maybe that's just how they are supposed to be.

    If this is a known issue, are there any modifications I can do to fix it?

    I don't think it's the cap wiggling on the stem you're feeling. It's the stem wiggling in the switch housing. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do about that. It's just inherent in the design of the switches. Some have tried to reduce movement by installing switch stickers, but the effect is minimal.

    Yep, I concur! I'm not very sensitive to wobble and I don't really mind it, but I have used stickers before and they truly don't do much to help. Oobly has mentioned using copper foil to reduce wobble on Zealios, and so I'm sure could apply to MX switches in general.

    I did try the mod and it did reduce wobble on Zealios by about half, but it didn't feel all that great. It could've just been that my application was off though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Tue, 17 November 2015, 12:23:36
    Hey, does anybody know the dimensions of the Varmilo VA87MR?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 17 November 2015, 12:53:46
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:25:25
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:20:25
    Quote from: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:24:08
    Are SA caps supposed to be a little wobbly on MX switches? I just put a set on and it doesn't feel loose on the stem, but rather I can push it forward and backward a fair amount with little effort. Seems a little wiggly but maybe that's just how they are supposed to be.

    If this is a known issue, are there any modifications I can do to fix it?

    I don't think it's the cap wiggling on the stem you're feeling. It's the stem wiggling in the switch housing. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do about that. It's just inherent in the design of the switches. Some have tried to reduce movement by installing switch stickers, but the effect is minimal.

    Yep, I concur! I'm not very sensitive to wobble and I don't really mind it, but I have used stickers before and they truly don't do much to help. Oobly has mentioned using copper foil to reduce wobble on Zealios, and so I'm sure could apply to MX switches in general.

    I did try the mod and it did reduce wobble on Zealios by about half, but it didn't feel all that great. It could've just been that my application was off though.
    Copper foil inside the switch? Wouldn't that create a short? Or do you mean between the switch stem and the cap? Because that's not going to help much with say an R1 SA...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 17 November 2015, 13:06:49
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 17 November 2015, 12:53:46
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:25:25
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:20:25
    Quote from: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:24:08
    Are SA caps supposed to be a little wobbly on MX switches? I just put a set on and it doesn't feel loose on the stem, but rather I can push it forward and backward a fair amount with little effort. Seems a little wiggly but maybe that's just how they are supposed to be.

    If this is a known issue, are there any modifications I can do to fix it?

    I don't think it's the cap wiggling on the stem you're feeling. It's the stem wiggling in the switch housing. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do about that. It's just inherent in the design of the switches. Some have tried to reduce movement by installing switch stickers, but the effect is minimal.

    Yep, I concur! I'm not very sensitive to wobble and I don't really mind it, but I have used stickers before and they truly don't do much to help. Oobly has mentioned using copper foil to reduce wobble on Zealios, and so I'm sure could apply to MX switches in general.

    I did try the mod and it did reduce wobble on Zealios by about half, but it didn't feel all that great. It could've just been that my application was off though.
    Copper foil inside the switch? Wouldn't that create a short? Or do you mean between the switch stem and the cap? Because that's not going to help much with say an R1 SA...

    Copper foil on the sides of the sliders of the stem. Oobly details it in the Zealio thread. I might try and find it now.

    Here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.msg1902748#msg1902748
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 13:25:02
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 17 November 2015, 13:06:49
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 17 November 2015, 12:53:46
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:25:25
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:20:25
    Quote from: mobbo on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:24:08
    Are SA caps supposed to be a little wobbly on MX switches? I just put a set on and it doesn't feel loose on the stem, but rather I can push it forward and backward a fair amount with little effort. Seems a little wiggly but maybe that's just how they are supposed to be.

    If this is a known issue, are there any modifications I can do to fix it?

    I don't think it's the cap wiggling on the stem you're feeling. It's the stem wiggling in the switch housing. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do about that. It's just inherent in the design of the switches. Some have tried to reduce movement by installing switch stickers, but the effect is minimal.

    Yep, I concur! I'm not very sensitive to wobble and I don't really mind it, but I have used stickers before and they truly don't do much to help. Oobly has mentioned using copper foil to reduce wobble on Zealios, and so I'm sure could apply to MX switches in general.

    I did try the mod and it did reduce wobble on Zealios by about half, but it didn't feel all that great. It could've just been that my application was off though.
    Copper foil inside the switch? Wouldn't that create a short? Or do you mean between the switch stem and the cap? Because that's not going to help much with say an R1 SA...

    Copper foil on the sides of the sliders of the stem. Oobly details it in the Zealio thread. I might try and find it now.

    Here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.msg1902748#msg1902748

    Oh wow that does seem intensive, especially since I'd have to remove the switches and I'm not sure I have the tools for that. It does sound like the stem wiggling in the switch housing now that you mention it, since the caps fit on the stem rather snug.

    Thanks for all the help guys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 November 2015, 13:27:04
    Quote from: cryptokey on Tue, 17 November 2015, 12:23:36
    Hey, does anybody know the dimensions of the Varmilo VA87MR?

    I found the package size in a quick search (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Varmilo-VA87MR-Mechanical-Keyboard-The-key-cap-is-white-Grey-shell/1182328_32324352038.html) but not the actual dimension of the board :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Tue, 17 November 2015, 13:47:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 November 2015, 13:27:04
    Quote from: cryptokey on Tue, 17 November 2015, 12:23:36
    Hey, does anybody know the dimensions of the Varmilo VA87MR?

    I found the package size in a quick search (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Varmilo-VA87MR-Mechanical-Keyboard-The-key-cap-is-white-Grey-shell/1182328_32324352038.html) but not the actual dimension of the board :(.

    Alright, no worries!  I've already ordered it so once it arrives I'll post the dimensions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 17 November 2015, 19:16:53
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Sun, 15 November 2015, 03:18:02
    Hello, i'am looking for IBM buckling spring spring dimension :

    Show Image
    (https://www.centuryspring.com/images/info/spring_measurement_compression.jpg)


    I need the Length and the Diameter, could someone give me this information ?

    Thanks.


    Eugene

    You may be able to pester Ellipse, I'm not sure if he had to measure Model F springs to source the ones for his upcoming 4704 reproductions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 17 November 2015, 19:21:52
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 17 November 2015, 19:16:53
    Quote from: Eugene45 on Sun, 15 November 2015, 03:18:02
    Hello, i'am looking for IBM buckling spring spring dimension :

    Show Image
    (https://www.centuryspring.com/images/info/spring_measurement_compression.jpg)


    I need the Length and the Diameter, could someone give me this information ?

    Thanks.


    Eugene

    You may be able to pester Ellipse, I'm not sure if he had to measure Model F springs to source the ones for his upcoming 4704 reproductions.

    Chances are he did as one orders springs based on spring rate, length and both inside and outside diameters.  The spring rate itself is a function of wire diameter, coils per inch, and material.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 17 November 2015, 21:47:25
    I have heard that alps switches are very hard to de-solder, what cause that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 17 November 2015, 22:02:05
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 17 November 2015, 21:47:25
    I have heard that alps switches are very hard to de-solder, what cause that?

    They aren't hard to desolder in my experience, not from vintage boards anyway. The main problem is that many of them were assembled with bent over pins that just make it a PITA to desolder since you have to straighten the pins in order to properly desolder and remove the switches. They were difficult to desolder from the Infinity I have, but that's because the PCB mounting holes are very tight against the pins.

    -
    Question: I have heard that the Northgate Omnikey 102 does not have NKRO and other features from the Omnikey 101. Is this true? Can anyone clarify?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Wed, 18 November 2015, 00:08:56
    is it possible to disable nkro in soarer's converter (pro micro/teensy)? how?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 November 2015, 06:05:01
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 17 November 2015, 22:02:05
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 17 November 2015, 21:47:25
    I have heard that alps switches are very hard to de-solder, what cause that?

    They aren't hard to desolder in my experience, not from vintage boards anyway. The main problem is that many of them were assembled with bent over pins that just make it a PITA to desolder since you have to straighten the pins in order to properly desolder and remove the switches. They were difficult to desolder from the Infinity I have, but that's because the PCB mounting holes are very tight against the pins.

    Agreed. It's just the pins being folded over is a bit of a pain. It's not that the switches are actually hard to solder.

    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 17 November 2015, 22:02:05
    Question: I have heard that the Northgate Omnikey 102 does not have NKRO and other features from the Omnikey 101. Is this true? Can anyone clarify?

    I don't think that statement is correct. Reading the DT article (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Northgate_OmniKey_101) seems to imply that the whole Omnikey 10X line has NKRO.

    Quote from: pabile on Wed, 18 November 2015, 00:08:56
    is it possible to disable nkro in soarer's converter (pro micro/teensy)? how?

    I don't think so but I'm not 100% sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:03:56
    Assuming split backspace, what would be the distance between backspace and the next key to the right, I believe Insert.  Standard oen layout such as phantom pcb in a Filco plate for example.

    The reason I ask is because swill has informed me that KLE won't work due to the .25 unit step increment does not line up.  I would also assume that it is the same distance between page up and numlock.  Confirmation here would be great.  Thanks for help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:08:38
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:03:56
    Assuming split backspace, what would be the distance between backspace and the next key to the right, I believe Insert.  Standard oen layout such as phantom pcb in a Filco plate for example.

    The reason I ask is because swill has informed me that KLE won't work due to the .25 unit step increment does not line up.  I would also assume that it is the same distance between page up and numlock.  Confirmation here would be great.  Thanks for help.

    Yeah, you would think it would be 23.8125mm. But it's 24.13mm, center-to-center. And yes to your second question. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:10:47
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:08:38
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:03:56
    Assuming split backspace, what would be the distance between backspace and the next key to the right, I believe Insert.  Standard oen layout such as phantom pcb in a Filco plate for example.

    The reason I ask is because swill has informed me that KLE won't work due to the .25 unit step increment does not line up.  I would also assume that it is the same distance between page up and numlock.  Confirmation here would be great.  Thanks for help.

    Yeah, you would think it would be 23.8125mm. But it's 24.13mm, center-to-center.

    Excellent thanks a lot JD.  Is it the same distance between blocks and esc in the top row?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:13:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss link=topic=40501.msg1939906#msg1939906 date=1447848301
    I don't think that statement is correct. [url=http://deskthority.net/wiki/Northgate_OmniKey_101
    Reading the DT article[/url] seems to imply that the whole Omnikey 10X line has NKRO.

    That's what I was thinking, but since the 102 isn't mentioned, it made me wonder. I know I've heard the comment of no NKRO on the 102 models in at least two different places, but I really don't know what to think.

    I've been looking into trying to find a Focus FK-555, since I love that damn bigfoot style case, like my Fame and the AT101 have, and there's speculation that it was a predecessor to the Omnikey, since the 102 has a "KB-555" bit in its FCC ID and the FK-555 has side printed legends on CTRL and Caps Lock that make it seem like they can be switched layout wise. Regardless, the FK-555 and Omnikeys seem very similar, so I'm trying to gauge if it might have the same features or not, but I don't think many people have the FK-555 so asking about it wouldn't likely bring much feedback. I've seen 4 separate mentions of that board around the community.

    Finding one might not be easy, but if I can get through to one possible lead, I might get lucky!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cottser on Wed, 18 November 2015, 14:59:31
    On a stock HHKB (Pro 2) does fn + z (or any other key that doesn't actually have a mapping on the function layer) send a z, or another keycode, or nothing?

    Trying to figure out if I could add additional bindings via Karabiner to expand the function layer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 18 November 2015, 15:06:36
    Quote from: Cottser on Wed, 18 November 2015, 14:59:31
    On a stock HHKB (Pro 2) does fn + z (or any other key that doesn't actually have a mapping on the function layer) send a z, or another keycode, or nothing?

    Trying to figure out if I could add additional bindings via Karabiner to expand the function layer.

    I do not have an HHKB, but I doubt it.  Function layers are handled at the keyboards firmware level as function dies not send a scan code to the host computer for any keyboard that I know of.  Not saying you can or cant add the functionality you want, but I very much for it will happen on the computer side of things.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cottser on Wed, 18 November 2015, 15:20:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 18 November 2015, 15:06:36
    Quote from: Cottser on Wed, 18 November 2015, 14:59:31
    On a stock HHKB (Pro 2) does fn + z (or any other key that doesn't actually have a mapping on the function layer) send a z, or another keycode, or nothing?

    Trying to figure out if I could add additional bindings via Karabiner to expand the function layer.

    I do not have an HHKB, but I doubt it.  Function layers are handled at the keyboards firmware level as function dies not send a scan code to the host computer for any keyboard that I know of.  Not saying you can or cant add the functionality you want, but I very much for it will happen on the computer side of things.

    Thanks! I'm new to this world and I know the Matias 60 is supposed to provide this functionality but wasn't sure how common/uncommon it was.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Wed, 18 November 2015, 17:18:02
    How to remove Cherry MY switches from the metal plate? I want to use the plate so I don't wanna do too much damage
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 November 2015, 17:41:39
    Quote from: mason on Wed, 18 November 2015, 17:18:02
    How to remove Cherry MY switches from the metal plate? I want to use the plate so I don't wanna do too much damage
    MY switches don't work like that. Sorry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:18:46
    I am relatively new to the community. What's the story behind sadster?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:23:50
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:18:46
    I am relatively new to the community. What's the story behind sadster?

    It's a play on 'hapster', which is a keycap design originating from listster in 2012 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37066.0).  IIRC, he drew it on as a commentary about the novelty cap craze ("look guys, I made a one-of-a-kind keycap!").  It ended up being produced by SP (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41915.0).  Then it was included as a novelty cap in various sets.

    The 'sadster' design (I believe) started as the image that would display for a broken attachment here on geekhack.  i3oilermaker decided to run a group buy for the sadster key (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72069.0) earlier this year.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:33:23
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:23:50
    It's a play on 'hapster', which is a keycap design originating from listster in 2012 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37066.0).  IIRC, he drew it on as a commentary about the novelty cap craze ("look guys, I made a one-of-a-kind keycap!").  It ended up being produced by SP (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41915.0).  Then it was included as a novelty cap in various sets.

    Rare keycap? That's a smilin'
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:42:08
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:23:50
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:18:46
    I am relatively new to the community. What's the story behind sadster?

    It's a play on 'hapster', which is a keycap design originating from listster in 2012 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37066.0).  IIRC, he drew it on as a commentary about the novelty cap craze ("look guys, I made a one-of-a-kind keycap!").  It ended up being produced by SP (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41915.0).  Then it was included as a novelty cap in various sets.

    The 'sadster' design (I believe) started as the image that would display for a broken attachment here on geekhack.  i3oilermaker decided to run a group buy for the sadster key (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72069.0) earlier this year.
    Thank you! Great to know. I wish I can get a hapster keycap for ALPS someday ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:50:00
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:58:55
    Whats good heatshrink for making custom cables? Bit confused about what size/type I need for this, already bought something far too large, just gonna defer to the experts now...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 18 November 2015, 19:34:03
    Quote from: Dernubenfrieken on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:58:55
    Whats good heatshrink for making custom cables? Bit confused about what size/type I need for this, already bought something far too large, just gonna defer to the experts now...

    I'm not an expert per se, but I like making my own cables when I need to because I'm too poor to buy custom cables. :P

    Get 3:1 or 4:1 ratio shrink tube, since it really shrinks up and can get a nice hold on your cable and the connector with just one size: 1/2"

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=3%3A%21+shrink+tube&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X3%3A1+shrink+tube.TRS0&_nkw=3%3A1+shrink+tube&_sacat=0

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=3%3A1+shrink+tube&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X4%3A1+shrink+tube.TRS0&_nkw=4%3A1+shrink+tube&_sacat=0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Wed, 18 November 2015, 19:35:05
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 18 November 2015, 18:50:00
    Quote from: mason on Wed, 18 November 2015, 17:18:02
    How to remove Cherry MY switches from the metal plate? I want to use the plate so I don't wanna do too much damage

    I managed to rip the plastic sheet upward and tear a lot of the switches out at once, but there will be still be annoying little plastic pieces left over.

    Ahh that didn't work for me. Right now I'm just pushing the sides through the hole and popping them out
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Wed, 18 November 2015, 20:22:10
    I've found the answer. Stick a flathead under the switch and it'll pop off  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 18 November 2015, 20:46:48
    i want to ask. what is the difference between stainless plate - aluminum plate - acrylic plate/plastic plate.
    i want to try order custom keyboard but dont know pros and cons between those plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:41:23
    Quote from: gadzkun on Wed, 18 November 2015, 20:46:48
    i want to ask. what is the difference between stainless plate - aluminum plate - acrylic plate/plastic plate.
    i want to try order custom keyboard but dont know pros and cons between those plate.

    Obvious answer: They're different materials

    Helpful answer: They give you a different feel. Stainless is heavy and provides a really noticeable change in feedback. To me the feedback is strongest and works it's way down from here. Aluminum is in the middle, it's still metal but much lighter and changes the feeling a bit less. Polymer plates tend to provide minimum change in feeling, almost like it's PCB mount.

    Most true in my opinion but least helpful answer: Pick what you like. It's personal preference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 19 November 2015, 01:55:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:41:23
    Quote from: gadzkun on Wed, 18 November 2015, 20:46:48
    i want to ask. what is the difference between stainless plate - aluminum plate - acrylic plate/plastic plate.
    i want to try order custom keyboard but dont know pros and cons between those plate.

    Obvious answer: They're different materials

    Helpful answer: They give you a different feel. Stainless is heavy and provides a really noticeable change in feedback. To me the feedback is strongest and works it's way down from here. Aluminum is in the middle, it's still metal but much lighter and changes the feeling a bit less. Polymer plates tend to provide minimum change in feeling, almost like it's PCB mount.

    Most true in my opinion but least helpful answer: Pick what you like. It's personal preference.

    hahaha.
    ok now i really like Polymer plate it looks really good with LED.
    but sometimes i type really hard when angry especially when playing games(dota).
    and im afraid the Polymer plate would break when i type too hard, so.....
    will it break when i type too hard? or it just my imagination? xD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Thu, 19 November 2015, 06:05:55
    Quote from: gadzkun on Thu, 19 November 2015, 01:55:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:41:23
    Quote from: gadzkun on Wed, 18 November 2015, 20:46:48
    i want to ask. what is the difference between stainless plate - aluminum plate - acrylic plate/plastic plate.
    i want to try order custom keyboard but dont know pros and cons between those plate.

    Obvious answer: They're different materials

    Helpful answer: They give you a different feel. Stainless is heavy and provides a really noticeable change in feedback. To me the feedback is strongest and works it's way down from here. Aluminum is in the middle, it's still metal but much lighter and changes the feeling a bit less. Polymer plates tend to provide minimum change in feeling, almost like it's PCB mount.

    Most true in my opinion but least helpful answer: Pick what you like. It's personal preference.

    hahaha.
    ok now i really like Polymer plate it looks really good with LED.
    but sometimes i type really hard when angry especially when playing games(dota).
    and im afraid the Polymer plate would break when i type too hard, so.....
    will it break when i type too hard? or it just my imagination? xD

    I think you'd be hard pressed to break anything with your typing. If anything a plastic plate would be good for you because it helps "cushion" you bottoming out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 19 November 2015, 06:38:57
    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99

    are these spacebars made by vortex?  and they are cherry profile right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 November 2015, 06:40:07
    More
    Quote from: gadzkun on Thu, 19 November 2015, 01:55:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:41:23
    Quote from: gadzkun on Wed, 18 November 2015, 20:46:48
    i want to ask. what is the difference between stainless plate - aluminum plate - acrylic plate/plastic plate.
    i want to try order custom keyboard but dont know pros and cons between those plate.

    Obvious answer: They're different materials

    Helpful answer: They give you a different feel. Stainless is heavy and provides a really noticeable change in feedback. To me the feedback is strongest and works it's way down from here. Aluminum is in the middle, it's still metal but much lighter and changes the feeling a bit less. Polymer plates tend to provide minimum change in feeling, almost like it's PCB mount.

    Most true in my opinion but least helpful answer: Pick what you like. It's personal preference.

    hahaha.
    ok now i really like Polymer plate it looks really good with LED.
    but sometimes i type really hard when angry especially when playing games(dota).
    and im afraid the Polymer plate would break when i type too hard, so.....
    will it break when i type too hard? or it just my imagination? xD



    Quote from: gadzkun on Thu, 19 November 2015, 01:55:38
    will it break when i type too hard?

    Quote from: gadzkun on Thu, 19 November 2015, 01:55:38
    it just my imagination?

    I think you answered your own question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pnoozi on Thu, 19 November 2015, 07:47:26
    re: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1937143#msg1937143

    So the white 28/24awg cable didn't work.  Not sure why.  I had to jam it in at a slight angle due to its thickness, so I cut it down about 1mm with a knife and... it still wouldn't work.  Only some keys worked, typed random characters, etc.  A different black 28/28awg cable works just fine!

    Not sure if the white cable didn't work because of the bigger power wire (supplying too much power to the board? idk), or didn't work because it was physically too thick and wouldn't fit snugly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Thu, 19 November 2015, 08:06:44
    Quote from: Cottser on Wed, 18 November 2015, 14:59:31
    On a stock HHKB (Pro 2) does fn + z (or any other key that doesn't actually have a mapping on the function layer) send a z, or another keycode, or nothing?

    Trying to figure out if I could add additional bindings via Karabiner to expand the function layer.

    In secret mode it spits out Undo while just 'z' in other modes. To configure secret mode turn on both 1and 2 of DIP switch.


    https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/keyboard/hhkb/doc/HHKB_keycodes.txt
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:38:42
    Does anybody know where I can find a design to make a USB switch with just a switch from the hardware store?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 November 2015, 16:02:55
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:38:42
    Does anybody know where I can find a design to make a USB switch with just a switch from the hardware store?

    I'm not following this question at all. Could you clarify what you mean?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 19 November 2015, 16:17:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 November 2015, 16:02:55
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:38:42
    Does anybody know where I can find a design to make a USB switch with just a switch from the hardware store?

    I'm not following this question at all. Could you clarify what you mean?

    I'm guessing that he is talking about a straight A-B situation. It can probably can be done but not with only 1 switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: captaineleven on Thu, 19 November 2015, 17:57:26
    Hey yall

     I have a RK topre clone and the spring under for the E is pinging hella hard and I'm not sure how to go about fixing it. Do I just dismantle the keyboard and pick it out and then lube it? It's the only key that's echoing and it's terrible because E is the most used letter!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 November 2015, 19:19:49
    Quote from: captaineleven on Thu, 19 November 2015, 17:57:26
    Hey yall

     I have a RK topre clone and the spring under for the E is pinging hella hard and I'm not sure how to go about fixing it. Do I just dismantle the keyboard and pick it out and then lube it? It's the only key that's echoing and it's terrible because E is the most used letter!
    You can only lube the area where the stem slides in and out. Capacitive boards aren't like cherry MX.

    Not sure that'll fix anything, I've noticed my royal kludge pings to but I haven't tried fixing it yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Thu, 19 November 2015, 19:40:46
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 19 November 2015, 16:17:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 November 2015, 16:02:55
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:38:42
    Does anybody know where I can find a design to make a USB switch with just a switch from the hardware store?

    I'm not following this question at all. Could you clarify what you mean?

    I'm guessing that he is talking about a straight A-B situation. It can probably can be done but not with only 1 switch.
    Well couldn't you just cut the power wire?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: njbair on Thu, 19 November 2015, 19:55:20
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 19 November 2015, 16:17:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 November 2015, 16:02:55
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:38:42
    Does anybody know where I can find a design to make a USB switch with just a switch from the hardware store?

    I'm not following this question at all. Could you clarify what you mean?

    I'm guessing that he is talking about a straight A-B situation. It can probably can be done but not with only 1 switch.
    If you have a 4PDT make-before-break relay, you could control it with a simple toggle switch.

    But if you're just talking about a switch, you're not going to find a 4-pole switch at a hardware store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: captaineleven on Thu, 19 November 2015, 20:59:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 November 2015, 19:19:49

    You can only lube the area where the stem slides in and out. Capacitive boards aren't like cherry MX.

    Not sure that'll fix anything, I've noticed my royal kludge pings to but I haven't tried fixing it yet.

    Hmm ok. I guess I'll keep looking into it. It's just annoying because it's just the one. Thanks for the answer, though!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 20 November 2015, 00:25:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 November 2015, 06:40:07
    More
    Quote from: gadzkun on Thu, 19 November 2015, 01:55:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:41:23
    Quote from: gadzkun on Wed, 18 November 2015, 20:46:48
    i want to ask. what is the difference between stainless plate - aluminum plate - acrylic plate/plastic plate.
    i want to try order custom keyboard but dont know pros and cons between those plate.

    Obvious answer: They're different materials

    Helpful answer: They give you a different feel. Stainless is heavy and provides a really noticeable change in feedback. To me the feedback is strongest and works it's way down from here. Aluminum is in the middle, it's still metal but much lighter and changes the feeling a bit less. Polymer plates tend to provide minimum change in feeling, almost like it's PCB mount.

    Most true in my opinion but least helpful answer: Pick what you like. It's personal preference.

    hahaha.
    ok now i really like Polymer plate it looks really good with LED.
    but sometimes i type really hard when angry especially when playing games(dota).
    and im afraid the Polymer plate would break when i type too hard, so.....
    will it break when i type too hard? or it just my imagination? xD



    Quote from: gadzkun on Thu, 19 November 2015, 01:55:38
    will it break when i type too hard?

    Quote from: gadzkun on Thu, 19 November 2015, 01:55:38
    it just my imagination?

    I think you answered your own question.

    hahaha yay~ now im 100% sure to take polymer plate. ty for the answer :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Fri, 20 November 2015, 21:09:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 November 2015, 16:02:55
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:38:42
    Does anybody know where I can find a design to make a USB switch with just a switch from the hardware store?

    I'm not following this question at all. Could you clarify what you mean?

    I have a toggle switch similar to this:  https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parts-express.com%2FData%2FDefault%2FImages%2FCatalog%2FOriginal%2F060-335_HR_0.jpg&sp=7588b807fc43f7b767a5ee7953f27c0b (https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parts-express.com%2FData%2FDefault%2FImages%2FCatalog%2FOriginal%2F060-335_HR_0.jpg&sp=7588b807fc43f7b767a5ee7953f27c0b) 
    I was wondering if there is a way that I could turn this into a switch to send input to my computer via USB. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 November 2015, 23:27:51
    Quote from: cryptokey on Fri, 20 November 2015, 21:09:10
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 November 2015, 16:02:55
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:38:42
    Does anybody know where I can find a design to make a USB switch with just a switch from the hardware store?

    I'm not following this question at all. Could you clarify what you mean?

    I have a toggle switch similar to this:  https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parts-express.com%2FData%2FDefault%2FImages%2FCatalog%2FOriginal%2F060-335_HR_0.jpg&sp=7588b807fc43f7b767a5ee7953f27c0b (https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parts-express.com%2FData%2FDefault%2FImages%2FCatalog%2FOriginal%2F060-335_HR_0.jpg&sp=7588b807fc43f7b767a5ee7953f27c0b) 
    I was wondering if there is a way that I could turn this into a switch to send input to my computer via USB.
    Sure, use a microcontroller with that switch on an input. I would use a Teensy or Pro Micro.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 21 November 2015, 06:10:20
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57244.msg1458876#msg1458876

    Anyone know what aluminum kustom that this? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 21 November 2015, 09:44:01
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 21 November 2015, 06:10:20
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57244.msg1458876#msg1458876

    Anyone know what aluminum kustom that this?
    LZ TrikX
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Sat, 21 November 2015, 19:27:39
    There are websites like builder.swillkb.com to make plate designs, but how do I design a PCB and how do I make them? I don't even know anything about PCBs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Sat, 21 November 2015, 19:37:59
    Other than desoldering every single switch, is there a way to get a Falbatech plate-mounted Ergodox into a litster style case? I have an Ergodox mounted to a Falbatech plate and I really hate this flimsy PVC case it's in. Unfortunately it's the only case compatible with the Falbatech plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kakakowie on Sat, 21 November 2015, 22:01:16
    Any idea where I can get a custom aluminium plate with my own design?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 21 November 2015, 22:29:17
    Quote from: kakakowie on Sat, 21 November 2015, 22:01:16
    Any idea where I can get a custom aluminium plate with my own design?


    At your local laser cutting workshop?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 21 November 2015, 22:35:59
    Quote from: kakakowie on Sat, 21 November 2015, 22:01:16
    Any idea where I can get a custom aluminium plate with my own design?
    BigBlueSaw is popular for their water jet cutting service. They have an account here, and they can work up a quote from a file output from swill's plate builder app.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kakakowie on Sun, 22 November 2015, 00:02:11
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 21 November 2015, 22:29:17
    At your local laser cutting workshop?

    I emailed them and they never got back to me sigh :(

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 21 November 2015, 22:35:59
    BigBlueSaw is popular for their water jet cutting service. They have an account here, and they can work up a quote from a file output from swill's plate builder app.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 22 November 2015, 06:47:46
    Quote from: Vozella on Sat, 21 November 2015, 19:27:39
    There are websites like builder.swillkb.com to make plate designs, but how do I design a PCB and how do I make them? I don't even know anything about PCBs.

    You'll need at least some knowledge of electrical work before you start designing your own PCBs. Try out PCBWeb or FreePCB. Custom PCB designs can be expensive to manufacture, especially for a one-off, so you might also need to do a GB in order to recoup some of your costs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 22 November 2015, 07:49:42
    Probably not a great question,
    but where can I find the printable test sheet for keycaps?  :)

    Much thankies in advance, fellow space travelers! <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 22 November 2015, 08:10:58
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Sun, 22 November 2015, 07:49:42
    Probably not a great question,
    but where can I find the printable test sheet for keycaps?  :)

    Much thankies in advance, fellow space travelers! <3

    Here ya go (from: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_HHH):

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 February 2013, 20:33:59
    Q: Where can I find the sheet that people use to check their keycap layouts?

    inlikeflynn (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36712.msg901321#msg901321) posted a 11x17" and 8x11" file, which looks like the "official GeekHack one" (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39184.msg763351#msg763351) (Laminated sheets were once sold in a GH Pack sold by Techkeys as shown in mashby's post). Samwisekoi also posted one he made for a sheet of 8x11" and A4 here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36810.msg694748#msg694748). Mr. Chunky also has a .pdf. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60972.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Sun, 22 November 2015, 12:14:53
    Where do people tend to buy/find Cherry corp keyboards in good condition? I'm trying to find a few but I'm having a hard time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 22 November 2015, 13:04:53
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Sun, 22 November 2015, 12:14:53
    Where do people tend to buy/find Cherry corp keyboards in good condition? I'm trying to find a few but I'm having a hard time.

    The G80-11900 is a good one (MX black with small old-style touchpad) that is often available pretty cheap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Sun, 22 November 2015, 21:50:25
    Where would I get a 7u cherry stab wire? classifieds? an online store somewhere? Make one myself?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 22 November 2015, 22:05:38
    Quote from: nmur on Sun, 22 November 2015, 21:50:25
    Where would I get a 7u cherry stab wire? classifieds? an online store somewhere? Make one myself?

    If you find one by itself (wire only) let me know and maybe we can split shipping
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 November 2015, 08:41:54
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sat, 21 November 2015, 19:37:59
    Other than desoldering every single switch, is there a way to get a Falbatech plate-mounted Ergodox into a litster style case? I have an Ergodox mounted to a Falbatech plate and I really hate this flimsy PVC case it's in. Unfortunately it's the only case compatible with the Falbatech plate.

    Only thing I can think of is to design and cut your own.

    Quote from: Vozella on Sat, 21 November 2015, 19:27:39
    There are websites like builder.swillkb.com to make plate designs, but how do I design a PCB and how do I make them? I don't even know anything about PCBs.

    Typically PCBs are hand traced or designed in KiCAD. Currently, I don't think there's an equivalent of swill's site for PCBs. You can always just handwire the board if you don't want to mess with a PCB.

    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Sun, 22 November 2015, 12:14:53
    Where do people tend to buy/find Cherry corp keyboards in good condition? I'm trying to find a few but I'm having a hard time.

    eBay has always been my go to.

    Quote from: nmur on Sun, 22 November 2015, 21:50:25
    Where would I get a 7u cherry stab wire? classifieds? an online store somewhere? Make one myself?

    Um...I *think* that MK.com might have some for sale now. I'm not 100% sure though. At one point, imsto and GON had them for sale too. Otherwise, the classifieds or DIY.

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 19 November 2015, 06:38:57
    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99

    are these spacebars made by vortex?  and they are cherry profile right?

    No idea. The brand says "Others" and I can't see the profile from those two pictures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 23 November 2015, 12:42:38
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 23 November 2015, 13:28:37
    My c on my HHKB refuses to capitalise when I hold any of the shift keys, is there a setting or something I'm missing here every other key capitalises fine, just not c but otherwise works as a normal lower case letter
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:32:19
    I'm trying to decide between which Model M to get for my first one.  Would anybody be able to help me decide which one would be best out of these?

    Here are the listings for Canada in my price range:

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1988-BLACK-LOGO-ps-2-/361434588081?hash=item54272e23b1:g:-fcAAOSweuxWSPts&clk_rvr_id=936303064253&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1988-BLACK-LOGO-ps-2-/361434588081?hash=item54272e23b1:g:-fcAAOSweuxWSPts&clk_rvr_id=936303064253&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 November 2015, 22:18:40
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 22:08:53
    bump

    Seriously? You didn't get an answer in 30 minutes so you bumped which is against the rules of this thread? Have a little patience.

    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:32:19
    I'm trying to decide between which Model M to get for my first one.  Would anybody be able to help me decide which one would be best out of these?

    Here are the listings for Canada in my price range:

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1988-BLACK-LOGO-ps-2-/361434588081?hash=item54272e23b1:g:-fcAAOSweuxWSPts&clk_rvr_id=936303064253&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1988-BLACK-LOGO-ps-2-/361434588081?hash=item54272e23b1:g:-fcAAOSweuxWSPts&clk_rvr_id=936303064253&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)

    You have one keyboard that you can afford? Just pick up a 1391401. They're all pretty much the same anyways.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 22:23:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 November 2015, 22:18:40
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 22:08:53
    bump

    Seriously? You didn't get an answer in 30 minutes so you bumped which is against the rules of this thread? Have a little patience.

    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:32:19
    I'm trying to decide between which Model M to get for my first one.  Would anybody be able to help me decide which one would be best out of these?

    Here are the listings for Canada in my price range:

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1988-BLACK-LOGO-ps-2-/361434588081?hash=item54272e23b1:g:-fcAAOSweuxWSPts&clk_rvr_id=936303064253&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1988-BLACK-LOGO-ps-2-/361434588081?hash=item54272e23b1:g:-fcAAOSweuxWSPts&clk_rvr_id=936303064253&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)

    You have one keyboard that you can afford? Just pick up a 1391401. They're all pretty much the same anyways.

    My apologies, I should have read the rules first.  Won't happen again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Tue, 24 November 2015, 07:19:35
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 22:23:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 November 2015, 22:18:40
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 22:08:53
    bump

    Seriously? You didn't get an answer in 30 minutes so you bumped which is against the rules of this thread? Have a little patience.

    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:32:19
    I'm trying to decide between which Model M to get for my first one.  Would anybody be able to help me decide which one would be best out of these?

    Here are the listings for Canada in my price range:

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1988-BLACK-LOGO-ps-2-/361434588081?hash=item54272e23b1:g:-fcAAOSweuxWSPts&clk_rvr_id=936303064253&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1988-BLACK-LOGO-ps-2-/361434588081?hash=item54272e23b1:g:-fcAAOSweuxWSPts&clk_rvr_id=936303064253&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)

    You have one keyboard that you can afford? Just pick up a 1391401. They're all pretty much the same anyways.

    My apologies, I should have read the rules first.  Won't happen again.

    Also if you want an immediate response, the IRC chat might be helpful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 24 November 2015, 08:12:44
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:32:19
    I'm trying to decide between which Model M to get for my first one.  Would anybody be able to help me decide which one would be best out of these?

    I don't know what Unicomp charges for shipping to Canada, but a new Unicomp with USB and warranty is my recommendation for your first M.

    Move into the hobbyist realm after you discover that you like them.

    Otherwise, this is a great deal, too, depending on shipping:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77273.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 24 November 2015, 12:25:26
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 24 November 2015, 12:27:52
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 24 November 2015, 12:25:26
    How do the weight of alps blues compare to alps white?

    I don't think the weighting is to different but the smoothness if Blues make them feel lighter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:29:57
    Would it be possible to get a variable-weighted Topre Realforce board then swap the springs for 55g springs?  If so, would I be able to buy replacement springs anywhere or am I limited to using a donor board? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:49:07
    Quote from: cryptokey on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:29:57
    Would it be possible to get a variable-weighted Topre Realforce board then swap the springs for 55g springs?  If so, would I be able to buy replacement springs anywhere or am I limited to using a donor board?

    The domes are what give it the weight, not the springs.  So you'd be swapping domes.  But no, you cannot buy domes (or springs for that matter, so don't lose them) anywhere.  You'll need a donor board for any sort of swap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:57:58
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:49:07
    Quote from: cryptokey on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:29:57
    Would it be possible to get a variable-weighted Topre Realforce board then swap the springs for 55g springs?  If so, would I be able to buy replacement springs anywhere or am I limited to using a donor board?

    The domes are what give it the weight, not the springs.  So you'd be swapping domes.  But no, you cannot buy domes (or springs for that matter, so don't lose them) anywhere.  You'll need a donor board for any sort of swap.

    Thanks!  As you can tell, I'm very new to Topre.:p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 November 2015, 14:00:05
    Quote from: cryptokey on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:57:58
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:49:07
    Quote from: cryptokey on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:29:57
    Would it be possible to get a variable-weighted Topre Realforce board then swap the springs for 55g springs?  If so, would I be able to buy replacement springs anywhere or am I limited to using a donor board?

    The domes are what give it the weight, not the springs.  So you'd be swapping domes.  But no, you cannot buy domes (or springs for that matter, so don't lose them) anywhere.  You'll need a donor board for any sort of swap.

    Thanks!  As you can tell, I'm very new to Topre.:p

    Not a problem, that is the point of this thread after all.  ;)  It's not very intuitive unless you already know it, especially since MX/others weights are determined by springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 26 November 2015, 20:58:25
    Where's the best place to get boards with OG Cherry doubleshots? I know that some of the SKU codes indicate doubleshot keycaps but I'm not sure how to effectively search for them on ebay
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 26 November 2015, 21:01:08
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 26 November 2015, 20:58:25
    Where's the best place to get boards with OG Cherry doubleshots? I know that some of the SKU codes indicate doubleshot keycaps but I'm not sure how to effectively search for them on ebay

    I would also be interested in the answer to this question. I usually search around on great finds a lot, as well as DT (they tend to have many more vintage boards for sale).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 27 November 2015, 15:12:28
    Are gaterons wobblier than cherry? I haven't used either in a while, so I don't think I can judge either of the two properly
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 November 2015, 16:45:42
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 27 November 2015, 15:12:28
    Are gaterons wobblier than cherry? I haven't used either in a while, so I don't think I can judge either of the two properly


    They feel the same, in my experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 27 November 2015, 16:49:40
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 27 November 2015, 16:45:42
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 27 November 2015, 15:12:28
    Are gaterons wobblier than cherry? I haven't used either in a while, so I don't think I can judge either of the two properly


    They feel the same, in my experience.

    I concur. If there is a difference, it's not a practical one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 November 2015, 18:24:35
    is there any ps/2 to usb converter other the otd one work with otd pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 27 November 2015, 18:39:37
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 28 November 2015, 01:12:35
    Has there been any custom boards made with 4 layer boards?  For some reason, I have a design goal of minimum vias on my boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 28 November 2015, 10:05:25
    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 27 November 2015, 15:12:28
    Are gaterons wobblier than cherry? I haven't used either in a while, so I don't think I can judge either of the two properly

    Zealios are a bit more wobbly, normal gaterons are not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 28 November 2015, 10:33:22
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 26 November 2015, 20:58:25
    Where's the best place to get boards with OG Cherry doubleshots? I know that some of the SKU codes indicate doubleshot keycaps but I'm not sure how to effectively search for them on ebay

    Look for an H immediately after the model number, e.g. G80-3000HRBUS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 28 November 2015, 13:51:45
    I have a switch on a homemade board which I've assembled, but not used much since I (STILL) don't have the stabilizers.

    The switch doesn't activate when I press the button normally, only when I first press it all the way down, THEN push really hard. Does that sound like something that can be fixed without soldering, or should I replace the switch right away?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:40:47
    Looking to clean some vintage cruciform alp switches, what would be a good cleaner to use for that purpose? Got denture clean, oxiclean, simply clean, dish soap and various other household cleaners.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 29 November 2015, 19:38:30
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 28 November 2015, 10:33:22
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 26 November 2015, 20:58:25
    Where's the best place to get boards with OG Cherry doubleshots? I know that some of the SKU codes indicate doubleshot keycaps but I'm not sure how to effectively search for them on ebay

    Look for an H immediately after the model number, e.g. G80-3000HRBUS

    Thanks man!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: myotherteeshirt on Mon, 30 November 2015, 00:59:05
    I took apart a Razer BW, and after desoldering cleaned the bottom with 96% isopropyl alcohol: used a brush to get it on and dabbed dry with a cloth, and now the back of the pcb is all sticky. It is matte compared to the glossy front.

    Do some PCBs have a coating that don't play well with ipa?

    Also, the board seems to be soldered on to the plate - any harm in attempting to separate them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 30 November 2015, 05:03:15
    The sticky residue is probably leftover flux from the assembly process. The connection to the plate is probably a grounding point, though it might just be a way to keep them together. Either way, it's safe to take apart but if you want to solder then back together you'll probably need a larger radius solder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:57:20
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 28 November 2015, 13:51:45
    I have a switch on a homemade board which I've assembled, but not used much since I (STILL) don't have the stabilizers.

    The switch doesn't activate when I press the button normally, only when I first press it all the way down, THEN push really hard. Does that sound like something that can be fixed without soldering, or should I replace the switch right away?

    I'd just replace the switch.

    Quote from: Dernubenfrieken on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:40:47
    Looking to clean some vintage cruciform alp switches, what would be a good cleaner to use for that purpose? Got denture clean, oxiclean, simply clean, dish soap and various other household cleaners.

    I'd use Isopropyl alcohol first.

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 24 November 2015, 12:27:52
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 24 November 2015, 12:25:26
    How do the weight of alps blues compare to alps white?

    I don't think the weighting is to different but the smoothness if Blues make them feel lighter.

    I'd agree with this. I think it's like Model F and M where the weights are about the same but somehow, the F feels lighter.

    Quote from: trenzafeeds on Thu, 26 November 2015, 21:01:08
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 26 November 2015, 20:58:25
    Where's the best place to get boards with OG Cherry doubleshots? I know that some of the SKU codes indicate doubleshot keycaps but I'm not sure how to effectively search for them on ebay

    I would also be interested in the answer to this question. I usually search around on great finds a lot, as well as DT (they tend to have many more vintage boards for sale).

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_TT

    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 November 2015, 18:24:35
    is there any ps/2 to usb converter other the otd one work with otd pcb?

    Is that the one with the Teensy in the acrylic block? I think that's the only thing I've ever heard of that works with OTD boards but I don't know for sure.

    Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 27 November 2015, 15:12:28
    Are gaterons wobblier than cherry? I haven't used either in a while, so I don't think I can judge either of the two properly

    In my experience they feel the same.

    Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 28 November 2015, 01:12:35
    Has there been any custom boards made with 4 layer boards?  For some reason, I have a design goal of minimum vias on my boards.

    I don't think so. Not sure what the advantage is to having more layers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:20:09
    So my WASD Code's micro usb port randomly stopped working - no impact to it or nothing (my third problem with the WASD Code and I never break electronics).  Would it be possible to take this opportunity to solder in a mini usb port onto the pcb or can I only replace/resolder the micro usb port?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:21:55
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:20:09
    So my WASD Code's micro usb port randomly stopped working - no impact to it or nothing (my third problem with the WASD Code and I never break electronics).  Would it be possible to take this opportunity to solder in a mini usb port onto the pcb or can I only replace/resolder the micro usb port?

    The footprint isn't the same, so you would only be able to replace it with another micro. Honestly, with that many problems, can you not still return it under warranty?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:33:21
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:21:55
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:20:09
    So my WASD Code's micro usb port randomly stopped working - no impact to it or nothing (my third problem with the WASD Code and I never break electronics).  Would it be possible to take this opportunity to solder in a mini usb port onto the pcb or can I only replace/resolder the micro usb port?

    The footprint isn't the same, so you would only be able to replace it with another micro. Honestly, with that many problems, can you not still return it under warranty?

    Thanks for the info.  I originally returned it for a refund but instead they repaired it and sent it back... I'm thinking I'll contact them again about it and make sure I get my money back.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:59:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:57:20
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 November 2015, 18:24:35
    is there any ps/2 to usb converter other the otd one work with otd pcb?

    Is that the one with the Teensy in the acrylic block? I think that's the only thing I've ever heard of that works with OTD boards but I don't know for sure.



    yeah, that's the one I am talking about.. maybe I will buy few different ps/2 usb converter to try them one by one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 01 December 2015, 13:46:13
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:59:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:57:20
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 November 2015, 18:24:35
    is there any ps/2 to usb converter other the otd one work with otd pcb?

    Is that the one with the Teensy in the acrylic block? I think that's the only thing I've ever heard of that works with OTD boards but I don't know for sure.



    yeah, that's the one I am talking about.. maybe I will buy few different ps/2 usb converter to try them one by one

    are you talking about the converter from kbdmod?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: n__dles on Tue, 01 December 2015, 20:13:27
    Is there a noticeable quality difference between the Unicomp Classic and Ultra Classic? I heard that the Classic's mould has a lot of wear, so it's better to get the Ultra Classic for that reason alone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 01 December 2015, 21:17:56
    Is there anywhere I can look at the schematic for the LED circuit on the phantom?

    Using a similar type of circuit, would it be possible to run 152 LEDs with a similar circuit?

    Or, will I need another connection to USB/another power source?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 01 December 2015, 22:15:40
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 01 December 2015, 13:46:13
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:59:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:57:20
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 27 November 2015, 18:24:35
    is there any ps/2 to usb converter other the otd one work with otd pcb?

    Is that the one with the Teensy in the acrylic block? I think that's the only thing I've ever heard of that works with OTD boards but I don't know for sure.



    yeah, that's the one I am talking about.. maybe I will buy few different ps/2 usb converter to try them one by one

    are you talking about the converter from kbdmod?

    yeah, that's the one I am talking about..wasn't aware it's actually from kbdmod before
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 02 December 2015, 00:10:08
    Are 22mm x 18mm keys 1.25u or 1.5u? Where could I find R4 MX replacements for whichever it is?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 02 December 2015, 00:53:59
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 02 December 2015, 00:10:08
    Are 22mm x 18mm keys 1.25u or 1.5u? Where could I find R4 MX replacements for whichever it is?

    Those keys are 1.25u x 1u. http://pimpmykeyboard.com/ sells individual keys, I believe, although none of their profiles are particularly close to OEM profile (stock keycaps).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 01:49:01
    Is there a way I can purchase this keyboard or something very similar: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=634

    I prefer direct access to the arrow keys and I want the keyboard to be this compact. It is so hard to find a keyboard design like this. Maybe it's possible to program one like this? Could the pok3r be programmed like this and are the keys close enough for making similar arrow keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 03 December 2015, 04:12:38
    How is it possible that an alu 60% case for pok3r-compatible keyboards is 99 USD, when the actual pok3r with Alu casing is 120? I mean, I'd rather buy a Pok3r and a cheap 20$ plastic case, and have an extra keyboard!

    Are there cheaper alu cases? Like the original Pok3r ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 06:51:56
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 03 December 2015, 04:12:38
    1) How is it possible that an alu 60% case for pok3r-compatible keyboards is 99 USD, when the actual pok3r with Alu casing is 120? I mean, I'd rather buy a Pok3r and a cheap 20$ plastic case, and have an extra keyboard!

    2) Are there cheaper alu cases? Like the original Pok3r ones?

    1) It's just marketing and pricing schemes.

    2) Cheapest aluminum cases I've seen are the $60 ones that pexon had (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0)

    Quote from: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 01:49:01
    Is there a way I can purchase this keyboard or something very similar: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=634

    I prefer direct access to the arrow keys and I want the keyboard to be this compact. It is so hard to find a keyboard design like this. Maybe it's possible to program one like this? Could the pok3r be programmed like this and are the keys close enough for making similar arrow keys?

    Filco Minila might fit the bill. I don't think you can program the Pok3r to that extent. I don't think the Pok3r is fully programmable like a board with a Teensy and TMK is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 03 December 2015, 06:58:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 06:51:56

    2) Cheapest aluminum cases I've seen are the $60 ones that pexon had (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0)


    Man I swear that is the actual Poker 3 case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 07:30:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 06:51:56

    Filco Minila might fit the bill. I don't think you can program the Pok3r to that extent. I don't think the Pok3r is fully programmable like a board with a Teensy and TMK is.

    Thanks for the suggestion, but the spacebar is too small. My thumb naturally rests aligned with and under the D key when playing an FPS game. I was hoping someone might give me some obscure keyboard designer, such as one made for and by the community. An example would be the hypermini-c400, but it's still pending on community interest, so it's not produced. I am still going through the 60% keyboard list that's posted on this thread. Would it be safe to say that if I don't see any other option in the list, then it is very unlikely I'll find what I am looking for? I also read somewhere that the pok3r is in fact fully programmable except for a couple keys, but that statement was from keyboard enthusiasts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 07:35:01
    Quote from: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 07:30:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 06:51:56

    Filco Minila might fit the bill. I don't think you can program the Pok3r to that extent. I don't think the Pok3r is fully programmable like a board with a Teensy and TMK is.

    Thanks for the suggestion, but the spacebar is too small. My thumb naturally rests aligned with and under the D key when playing an FPS game. I was hoping someone might give me some obscure keyboard designer, such as one made for and by the community. An example would be the hypermini-c400, but it's still pending on community interest, so it's not produced. I am still going through the 60% keyboard list that's posted on this thread. Would it be safe to say that if I don't see any other option in the list, then it is very unlikely I'll find what I am looking for? I also read somewhere that the pok3r is in fact fully programmable except for a couple keys, but that statement was from keyboard enthusiasts.

    The layout you posted is really unpopular so not many stock keyboards are made with that layout. The Pok3r has  programmable layers (http://www.vortexgear.tw/db/upload/webdata4/vortex_201591551875732.pdf) but  you can't change the default base ANSI layout. If you have a custom controller, I could make my home row ;',./[]\456 if I wanted to.

    I would highly suggest looking into making your own keyboard to suit your specific tastes and needs. Or just hunting for a Pure Pro in the Classifieds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:05:36
    You can't change the default layout, but no one can stop you from using layer 2 AS your default layout :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:32:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 07:35:01

    The layout you posted is really unpopular so not many stock keyboards are made with that layout. The Pok3r has  programmable layers (http://www.vortexgear.tw/db/upload/webdata4/vortex_201591551875732.pdf) but  you can't change the default base ANSI layout. If you have a custom controller, I could make my home row ;',./[]\456 if I wanted to.

    I would highly suggest looking into making your own keyboard to suit your specific tastes and needs. Or just hunting for a Pure Pro in the Classifieds.

    Edit: Please bare with me as I have never programmed a mechanical keyboard before. I just want to clarify... regarding the pok3r keyboard, I will be able to setup the arrow keys as I wish by using either layer 2 ~ layer 4, correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:34:29
    Quote from: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:32:49
    Please bare with me as I have never programmed a mechanical keyboard before. I just want to clarify... I will be able to setup the arrow keys as I wish by using either layer 2 ~ layer 4, correct?

    Yeah but it won't be as available as the Pure Pro arrow keys. It'd be on a secondary layer unless you use the secondary layer as your primary like tofgerl said. I'm pretty sure you can't program over what they specify in the manual either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:34:52
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:05:36
    You can't change the default layout, but no one can stop you from using layer 2 AS your default layout :)

    Thanks for the reply. Sorry I was editing my post earlier lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:35:48
    Quote from: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:34:52
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:05:36
    You can't change the default layout, but no one can stop you from using layer 2 AS your default layout :)

    Thanks for the reply. Sorry I was editing my post earlier lol.

    It's still not as clean as having a completely programmable keyboard. See my post above.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:47:35
    Yeah, I started with a Pok3r, and am currently planning 6(!) homemade. 3 GH60 Satan, one FaceW and two Alps Party. I figure I'll keep three and give three away :)

    Possibly I'll sell the Pok3r. Don't know...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:48:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:35:48
    Quote from: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:34:52
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:05:36
    You can't change the default layout, but no one can stop you from using layer 2 AS your default layout :)

    Thanks for the reply. Sorry I was editing my post earlier lol.

    It's still not as clean as having a completely programmable keyboard. See my post above.


    Having the option to remap a second or third layer key assignments is not the same as having full keyboard programability. The confusion comes from manufacturers that use the term programmable keyboard to describe a keyboard featuring layer remapping capabilities. A programmable keyboard allows the user to define all key assignments with no restrictions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:54:40
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:48:59
    Having the option to remap a second or third layer key assignments is not the same as having full keyboard programability. The confusion comes from manufacturers that use the term programmable keyboard to describe a keyboard featuring layer remapping capabilities. A programmable keyboard allows the user to define all key assignments with no restrictions.

    That's a great way to put it. Thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:58:34
    I don't think Vortex are saying the Pok3r is programmable? They talk about "increased programmability" and I would agree with that statement, but what I would REALLY call it is "remappable with macro functions".

    For example, no matter what I do, I can't get a pok3r to send a Mac media key code. That's a simple edit in TMK. (And then a far from simple compilation and uploading, but if you're going to make your own keyboard, those are the breaks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 09:37:16
    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 03 December 2015, 08:48:59
    Having the option to remap a second or third layer key assignments is not the same as having full keyboard programability. The confusion comes from manufacturers that use the term programmable keyboard to describe a keyboard featuring layer remapping capabilities. A programmable keyboard allows the user to define all key assignments with no restrictions.

    Very nice explanation. I'm looking at the pok3r manual to see how I can make the arrow keys like the pure pro and my brain is farting because I'm looking at the DIP switch functions and I'm still very new to this. Is it possible? I want the left, down, and right arrow keys on either of the 4 right-side keys of the spacebar. Also if you look at the very bottom of the manual it has a feature for arrow keys kinda like how I wanted. Is that extra feature a toggle or do I have to hold r_alt + spacebar ?

    Edit: I am really trying to understand what exceptions there are to remapping the keys. It seems to me that the r_ctrl  is something you can't change because it is used to enter and exit programming mode.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 09:39:44
    Quote from: element72 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 09:37:16
    Very nice explanation. I'm looking at the pok3r manual to see how I can make the arrow keys like the pure pro and my brain is farting because I'm looking at the DIP switch functions and I'm still very new to this. Is it possible? I want the left, down, and right arrow keys on either of the 4 right-side keys of the spacebar. Also if you look at the very bottom of the manual it has a feature for arrow keys kinda like how I wanted. Is that extra feature a toggle or do I have to hold r_alt + spacebar ?

    Edit: I am really trying to understand what exceptions there are to remapping the keys. It seems to me that the r_ctrl  is something you can't change because it is used to enter and exit programming mode.

    It's a momentary thing. So you'd have to hit function + layer 2 key. Anything not on the main layer will be like that unless there's a way to toggle on the secondary layer and stay there always. Think about how a laptop's layers work. When you have an up and down arrow that also doubles up as like brightness adjustment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 03 December 2015, 10:02:29
    If you switch layers, it won't change back uness you manually do so. No matter what. Take out the cable, dismount the board and put it back together again. It will stay there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:41:28
    Since the site was reverted it looks like my question was deleted so I'll ask again: Does anyone know what profile this keycap is?

    (http://i.imgur.com/Ea4KoQU.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:46:27
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:41:28
    Since the site was reverted it looks like my question was deleted so I'll ask again: Does anyone know what profile this keycap is?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Ea4KoQU.jpg)



    You should have some known key-caps besides it to compare, without that reference it is very hard to tell. With that warning, it looks like a top row (function row) or row 1 in DCS, OEM or Cherry.


    (http://i.imgur.com/ymWYVF6.png)
    (http://i.imgur.com/4fxYJ1d.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:47:28
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:41:28
    Since the site was reverted it looks like my question was deleted so I'll ask again: Does anyone know what profile this keycap is?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Ea4KoQU.jpg)


    Maybe the KT profile (http://www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php) from SP? If not, maybe this thread helps (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68550.msg1631819#msg1631819)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 13:58:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:47:28
    Maybe the KT profile (http://www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php) from SP? If not, maybe this thread helps (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68550.msg1631819#msg1631819)

    That looks like it might be it. It came from an editing board and I've never seen the flat backside before. The keycaps are doubleshot and they look just like SP caps.

    Quote from: ideus on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:46:27
    You should have some known key-caps besides it to compare, without that reference it is very hard to tell. With that warning, it looks like a top row (function row) or row 1 in DCS, OEM or Cherry.


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ymWYVF6.png)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/4fxYJ1d.jpg)


    Sorry, I don't even really know what profile the rest of my keyboards have. It is R4, from the top of a video editing board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:46:25
    What's the opinion on Vintage MX Blues/Whites compared to their modern counterparts? I know that the oldest blues apparently lacked dye and thus were translucent.  I'm trying to figure out whether I want to use my linear Zealios as is for my next Octagon, or throw in some vintage clear stems, or some vintage white stems.  I want the switches to be completely colorless. :D

    From my experience with vintage clears and blacks, there is more of a smoothness, though whether that's from being worn in or not, I can't say.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:47:44
    Is there a way to determined the year of manufacture of a Kinesis board? I got one with serial number 30127CMD. Curious about when this board was made.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 21:14:11
    Quote from: E3E on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:46:25
    What's the opinion on Vintage MX Blues/Whites compared to their modern counterparts? I know that the oldest blues apparently lacked dye and thus were translucent.  I'm trying to figure out whether I want to use my linear Zealios as is for my next Octagon, or throw in some vintage clear stems, or some vintage white stems.  I want the switches to be completely colorless. :D

    From my experience with vintage clears and blacks, there is more of a smoothness, though whether that's from being worn in or not, I can't say.

    Vintage blues don't really feel too different to me. They might feel a wee bit smoother but that's probably just from the wear and not a difference in the mold. I could be wrong about this but I don't think Blues were ever clear. I do have a vintage white switch with a translucent slider though and it feels almost linear even with the bump and click. I moved the stem into a modern blue switch bottom and it has a nice smooth click. Good luck finding any vintage white stems though, they are as rare as Blue Alps if not rarer. Indeed, I've never seen a full board with vintage whites. You might look at buying some Gateron stems since they are translucent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Thu, 03 December 2015, 21:17:47
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 21:14:11
    Quote from: E3E on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:46:25
    What's the opinion on Vintage MX Blues/Whites compared to their modern counterparts? I know that the oldest blues apparently lacked dye and thus were translucent.  I'm trying to figure out whether I want to use my linear Zealios as is for my next Octagon, or throw in some vintage clear stems, or some vintage white stems.  I want the switches to be completely colorless. :D

    From my experience with vintage clears and blacks, there is more of a smoothness, though whether that's from being worn in or not, I can't say.

    Vintage blues don't really feel too different to me. They might feel a wee bit smoother but that's probably just from the wear and not a difference in the mold. I could be wrong about this but I don't think Blues were ever clear. I do have a vintage white switch with a translucent slider though and it feels almost linear even with the bump and click. I moved the stem into a modern blue switch bottom and it has a nice smooth click. Good luck finding any vintage white stems though, they are as rare as Blue Alps if not rarer. Indeed, I've never seen a full board with vintage whites. You might look at buying some Gateron stems since they are translucent.

    I've got a good source on a board with these babies in them, so I think I might just buy that :)  I love linear switches, so the way you describe them sounds quite nice. The linear Zealios have translucent stems as well, which is a huge reason I picked them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 21:55:46
    Quote from: ctm on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:47:44
    Is there a way to determined the year of manufacture of a Kinesis board? I got one with serial number 30127CMD. Curious about when this board was made.

    Mr Kinesis (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=8110.0) himself (Input Nirvana) says that it's late 90's vintage. But to get a more accurate date of manufacture, you'll have to contact Kinesis themselves. The contact is techsupport@kinesis.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Thu, 03 December 2015, 22:02:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 21:55:46
    Quote from: ctm on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:47:44
    Is there a way to determined the year of manufacture of a Kinesis board? I got one with serial number 30127CMD. Curious about when this board was made.

    Mr Kinesis (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=8110.0) himself (Input Nirvana) says that it's late 90's vintage. But to get a more accurate date of manufacture, you'll have to contact Kinesis themselves.
    Thanks a lot!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Fri, 04 December 2015, 07:06:15
    Quote from: E3E on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:46:25
    What's the opinion on Vintage MX Blues/Whites compared to their modern counterparts?
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72626.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Fri, 04 December 2015, 07:32:35
    Probably pushing the simple part a little but thought I'd try here first...

    I've got a plate from a Dell AT102w that I want to use with my Alps64; if I wanted to mod the bottom row to be winkeyless could I just remove the vertical parts of the plate in between the switches like they do on universal Cherry plates or would this affect the switches stability?
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 04 December 2015, 08:43:48
    Quote from: Hzza on Fri, 04 December 2015, 07:32:35
    Probably pushing the simple part a little but thought I'd try here first...

    I've got a plate from a Dell AT102w that I want to use with my Alps64; if I wanted to mod the bottom row to be winkeyless could I just remove the vertical parts of the plate in between the switches like they do on universal Cherry plates or would this affect the switches stability?
    (Attachment Link)

    I'm actually not sure. In theory it sounds fine but I'm not 100% on how the Alps switches mount.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Fri, 04 December 2015, 08:49:26
    That's what I was thinking...maybe I'll try it by splitting the backspace and then try it on the bottom row if it works OK. I'll keep you posted :D.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 December 2015, 09:16:02
    Quote from: Hzza on Fri, 04 December 2015, 08:49:26
    That's what I was thinking...maybe I'll try it by splitting the backspace and then try it on the bottom row if it works OK. I'll keep you posted :D.

    The problem you're going to have, even if the swtiches clip into the plate (which I think they will), is that the spacebar switch position for the 7u spacebar is different from the 6.25u position. You're going to need new stabilizer holes in the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Fri, 04 December 2015, 09:19:35
    Oh balls, I never even thought of that...thanks JD.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 04 December 2015, 11:19:42
    Quote from: Hzza on Fri, 04 December 2015, 07:32:35
    Probably pushing the simple part a little but thought I'd try here first...

    I've got a plate from a Dell AT102w that I want to use with my Alps64; if I wanted to mod the bottom row to be winkeyless could I just remove the vertical parts of the plate in between the switches like they do on universal Cherry plates or would this affect the switches stability?
    (Attachment Link)

    I use universal plates for two Alps builds of mine. It won't affect anything in practical experience unless you forcibly push forward against a key (Alps like to rock ;)). Overall, I think the difference is pretty negligible and I'm happy with the stability! YMMV.

    Testing it now.  ...Even pushing forward barely does much compared to a switch that is securely "land locked" by a plate. I'd say go for it. :D

    EDIT: Er, like JD said, stabilizing might be an issue. For my builds, I used alps keys that had cherry stab mounts and used PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers. If you could find a way to create stab positions in the plate for 6.25u 7u, then you should be alright.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hzza on Fri, 04 December 2015, 13:19:47
    Ah cool, good to know it works in theory. I've got a spare plate so I'll give it a go and try and figure out something for the spacebar stabs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:09:08
    Does someone know which set is this one? and if there is something similar that is comercially available in double shot? In particular I am interested in that caps lock style with 1.5u step.


    (http://i.imgur.com/c9PZKpY.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:41:56
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:09:08
    Does someone know which set is this one? and if there is something similar that is comercially available in double shot? In particular I am interested in that caps lock style with 1.5u step.


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/c9PZKpY.jpg)


    That's an Alps keyset, ideus. Those are caps from the SGI Granite. I call that style of stepping "Alps stepped," since it is different from Cherry's kind of stepping and is only seen on OEM Alps boards. You won't see Cherry-stepped caps on any Alps boards and vise versa, as far as I know.

    The Duck Mini allowed either Alps or Cherry MX.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:45:17
    Does making a custom keyboard with plate mounted switches and no PCB still require soldering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:04:29
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:45:17
    Does making a custom keyboard with plate mounted switches and no PCB still require soldering?
    Of course! In fact, it requires an amount of soldering and a technique that some would consider difficult and/or tedious.

    Soldering switches to a PCB is far and away the easier route.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:32:56
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:04:29
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:45:17
    Does making a custom keyboard with plate mounted switches and no PCB still require soldering?
    Of course! In fact, it requires an amount of soldering and a technique that some would consider difficult and/or tedious.

    Soldering switches to a PCB is far and away the easier route.

    Are there any videos instructing how to do it? I have trouble learning how to do something when I can't see it visually. WhiteFireDragon only has videos of PCB keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Roibhilin on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:43:46
    Is the meta key on the HHKB useless if I use windows and don't program?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 04 December 2015, 19:18:09
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:43:46
    Is the meta key on the HHKB useless if I use windows and don't program?

    If you set it to "Windows Mode" (SW1 ON, SW2 OFF - IIRC) then the meta key will act as the Windows Key.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 05 December 2015, 10:24:17
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 05 December 2015, 10:25:15
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 05 December 2015, 10:24:17
    Can one retrobrite Cherry doubleshots?
    I believe yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 05 December 2015, 10:30:08
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 05 December 2015, 10:24:17
    Can one retrobrite Cherry doubleshots?

    Yes, one can retrobrite any ABS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 05 December 2015, 10:34:06
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Sat, 05 December 2015, 12:12:28
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:32:56
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:04:29
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:45:17
    Does making a custom keyboard with plate mounted switches and no PCB still require soldering?
    Of course! In fact, it requires an amount of soldering and a technique that some would consider difficult and/or tedious.

    Soldering switches to a PCB is far and away the easier route.

    Are there any videos instructing how to do it? I have trouble learning how to do something when I can't see it visually. WhiteFireDragon only has videos of PCB keyboards.
    Are there none?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 05 December 2015, 12:15:57
    Not on youtube that I've seen, but I've got this bookmarked: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html
    I ended up buying Satan GH60s at 30 bucks each, and I'm very glad I did. I would have spent a weekend being frustrated and getting my fingers burned otherwise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 05 December 2015, 12:35:53
    Quote from: Vozella on Sat, 05 December 2015, 12:12:28
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:32:56
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 December 2015, 18:04:29
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:45:17
    Does making a custom keyboard with plate mounted switches and no PCB still require soldering?
    Of course! In fact, it requires an amount of soldering and a technique that some would consider difficult and/or tedious.

    Soldering switches to a PCB is far and away the easier route.

    Are there any videos instructing how to do it? I have trouble learning how to do something when I can't see it visually. WhiteFireDragon only has videos of PCB keyboards.
    Are there none?

    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 05 December 2015, 12:15:57
    Not on youtube that I've seen, but I've got this bookmarked: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html

    Yup, That's what I'd use to learn how to handwire boards. Also this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Sat, 05 December 2015, 15:03:25
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 05 December 2015, 12:15:57
    Not on youtube that I've seen, but I've got this bookmarked: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html
    I ended up buying Satan GH60s at 30 bucks each, and I'm very glad I did. I would have spent a weekend being frustrated and getting my fingers burned otherwise.
    What is Satan GH60? I can't find any information on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chiptea on Sat, 05 December 2015, 16:23:28
    Hi, I've got a quick question.

    I found a pretty good deal on some model Ms, but I've got an issue with them. On the top right of the boards, there are some numbers and letters engraved into the plastic. They are not too deep, so I was wondering if there was a way of filling the marks with some kind of putty, sanding it a little to match the texture, and dab some paint on it? Maybe someone has done something like this? Any help is appreciated!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 17:29:04
    Quote from: chiptea on Sat, 05 December 2015, 16:23:28
    Hi, I've got a quick question.

    I found a pretty good deal on some model Ms, but I've got an issue with them. On the top right of the boards, there are some numbers and letters engraved into the plastic. They are not too deep, so I was wondering if there was a way of filling the marks with some kind of putty, sanding it a little to match the texture, and dab some paint on it? Maybe someone has done something like this? Any help is appreciated!

    My advice is: "Don't try to put lipstick on a pig."

    If you are selling them, discount the price by $5 and let the buyers make their best try at it.

    If I had one, depending, my first thought would be to glue something over it. I have a "Geekhack" plastic badge-type label, and a larger metal "Impala" badge that I have been wondering what to do with.

    If you are determined to do something yourself, less is always better than more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 05 December 2015, 17:39:02
    You might consider some silicone too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 17:46:00
    Quote from: chiptea on Sat, 05 December 2015, 16:23:28
    Hi, I've got a quick question.

    I found a pretty good deal on some model Ms, but I've got an issue with them. On the top right of the boards, there are some numbers and letters engraved into the plastic. They are not too deep, so I was wondering if there was a way of filling the marks with some kind of putty, sanding it a little to match the texture, and dab some paint on it? Maybe someone has done something like this? Any help is appreciated!

    Sanding it isn't going to match any speckled texture if that's what the Model M has. While restoring my FAME (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76319.msg1905122#msg1905122) keyboard, the texture got sanded off thanks to trying to remove a stain that went deeper into the plastic than I had realized. In order to restore the texture to the board, I sanded off all the original texture and using some matte clear coat (Eastwood 2K urethane aerosol), and it worked really well (idea came from perusing Photoelectric's painting thread). I've heard that a light sandblasting can give plastic texture again too.
     
    Caveat here is that the FAME didn't have heavy texturing on it like some boards I've seen where they practically look like they have tiny scales, so it didn't take much. I don't know how the Model M's texture is. You could try filling it in with an epoxy putty, or plast-aid, but you're looking into far more work than you realize if you want to try and blend it in and paint and retexture it. Especially if this is just to resell.

    I'd say be straight up with your customers and just sell what you have. If this was for a personal restoration project, I'd be all for it, but if this is just for profit, er... People do bump up prices heavily for restored boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chiptea on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:07:13
    Thanks for the advice guys. I guess I should have specified: I don't think removing the etchings on an SSK is putting lipstick on a pig  :p It sounded like I had regular old model Ms now that I look back. Sorry for the confusion.
    They aren't too deep, so I think I could do an ok job with some putty and paint. I dug around and found a bad photo of the damage: http://i.imgur.com/3jMi8Pu.png
    It doesn't appear to be too deep, or too wide. Still a bit on the edge, but I'm getting a pretty good deal on them. My thoughts are that with a little work it could turn out looking almost as good as new.

    Edit: A bit more info... I'm getting two; one for personal use, and one to sell. I'd like to restore them fully (bolt mod, possible usb mod, and fix the etching problem). I'll be selling the one at a reasonable price, as I got a good deal, and I don't want to charge an insane amount. I was thinking $250 USD if it ends up looking good. That's fine for a bolt/usb modded SSK, right? I would rather like to take care of the problem than sticking something over it. Bringing them back to their former glory would be worth the time for me. Let me know what you guys think!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:09:38
    Quote from: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 17:46:00
    People do bump up  *asking*  prices heavily for restored boards.

    And rarely get them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:19:11
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:09:38
    Quote from: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 17:46:00
    People do bump up  *asking*  prices heavily for restored boards.

    And rarely get them.

    Seeing yellowed old logo salmon Alps Dell AT101s go for around $150 and blue alps Omnikeys go for somewhere above $100 and below $200 (the last guy tried to sell for $290, as delusional as he was), Acer KB101As sell for 100-150, all of the above being yellowed and not in "like-new" condition.... Well, I can imagine some people do pay a bit more for restored boards.

    Don't restored models often sell on the ClickyKeyboards site and the site of that one guy who restores and repairs Northgates?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:28:33
    Quote from: chiptea on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:07:13
    Thanks for the advice guys. I guess I should have specified: I don't think removing the etchings on an SSK is putting lipstick on a pig  It sounded like I had regular old model Ms now that I look back. Sorry for the confusion.
    They aren't too deep, so I think I could do an ok job with some putty and paint. I dug around and found a bad photo of the damage: http://i.imgur.com/3jMi8Pu.png
    It doesn't appear to be too deep, or too wide. Still a bit on the edge, but I'm getting a pretty good deal on them. My thoughts are that with a little work it could turn out looking almost as good as new.

    Edit: A bit more info... I'm getting two; one for personal use, and one to sell. I'd like to restore them fully (bolt mod, possible usb mod, and fix the etching problem). I'll be selling the one at a reasonable price, as I got a good deal, and I don't want to charge an insane amount. I was thinking $250 USD if it ends up looking good. That's fine for a bolt/usb modded SSK, right? I would rather like to take care of the problem than sticking something over it. Bringing them back to their former glory would be worth the time for me. Let me know what you guys think!
    As somewhat of a collector myself, I'd prefer to have the keyboard in pure stock condition, no bolt mod, no USB, no cosmetic refinishing. If I wanted to do anything to it, I'd prefer to be the one to make that decision. You would probably reduce the value, rather than increase it, by messing with them.

    If you want to try something on yours first, maybe hit it with a Mr Clean Magic Eraser first, and see how that works.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chiptea on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:34:14
    Allright, I might go ahead and do that. What do you think they'd be worth stock, considering that they have those markings that you saw in the above picture? I'd like to see if It's worth buying.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:58:47
    I'm not 100% sure, as I haven't been following the market lately. You might ask in the Price Check thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:02:04
    Quote from: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:19:11
    Seeing yellowed old logo salmon Alps Dell AT101s go for around $150 and blue alps Omnikeys go for somewhere above $100 and below $200

    I would think that a blue Alps Northgate would be worth a good deal more than an salmon Alps Dell, but I am not really in the market any more.

    But I think that you should take jdcarpe's advice: sell it as-is.

    Although a certain person might well pay another person $100 to do a restoration job, you should not assume that a restoration job, in and of itself, would raise the market value by $100.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:16:41
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:02:04
    Quote from: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:19:11
    Seeing yellowed old logo salmon Alps Dell AT101s go for around $150 and blue alps Omnikeys go for somewhere above $100 and below $200

    I would think that a blue Alps Northgate would be worth a good deal more than an salmon Alps Dell, but I am not really in the market any more.

    But I think that you should take jdcarpe's advice: sell it as-is.

    Although a certain person might well pay another person $100 to do a restoration job, you should not assume that a restoration job, in and of itself, would raise the market value by $100.

    I do agree with all your points here, fohat (I always read your name as foghat, lol  :rolleyes:).

    Like JD, I'd also rather buy a yellowed or otherwise disheveled keyboard so I can restore it myself. That alone increases personal value due to the investment and effort made in bringing the board back to a nice condition.  Restored boards do tend to get listed for a bit more than unrestored, and while I find that to be pretty justified thanks to the work put in... for anyone who can do it themselves, that's usually work that wasn't asked for, haha.

    Here's some crazy examples: I thought this was a salmon alps, but it was actually a black alps model AT101 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-DELL-AT-101-PS-2-Old-Logo-mechanical-blk-alps-MADE-USA-MINT-WORKS-GREAT-/181941510208?hash=item2a5c8f2040%3Ag%3AU2wAAOSw7FRWVMAz&nma=true&si=9Ba%252FCfHEbEBqYK8fClKFuHZquqs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) that sold for $150.   
     
    Meanwhile, we have a likely blue alps Northgate Omnikey 102 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Northgate-OmniKey-102-Alps-Mechanical-Switch-Keyboard-Omni-Key-1989-/181915020371?hash=item2a5afaec53%3Ag%3A-9gAAOSwYHxWL9Kl&nma=true&si=9Ba%252FCfHEbEBqYK8fClKFuHZquqs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) that went for $100.   
     
    In the end, I think its hard to set prices on things as they vary so much. I've seen AT101s go for around $150, but there was another recently that went for $100 that was salmon alps and I got mine for $29.99 before shipping. There was that guy who set another 102 Omnikey at $290 BIN but ended up taking a best offer (the price of which is anyone's guess). I think the prices for a lot of these boards are overblown though. :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:57:36
    Quote from: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:16:41
    I do agree with all your points here, fohat (I always read your name as foghat),

    The Northgate was white Alps. A blue Alps under $200 would be a good deal.

    http://www.teosofia.com/Mumbai/7208fohat.html (http://www.teosofia.com/Mumbai/7208fohat.html)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foghat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foghat)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:07:47
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:57:36
    Quote from: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:16:41
    I do agree with all your points here, fohat (I always read your name as foghat),

    The Northgate was white Alps. A blue Alps under $200 would be a good deal.

    http://www.teosofia.com/Mumbai/7208fohat.html (http://www.teosofia.com/Mumbai/7208fohat.html)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foghat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foghat)

    The gold label Omnikey 102s typically have blue alps, fohat.

    Here's one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erOgxMSITls) and here's another. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61978.0)

    Also, that must be where I kept getting "foghat" from, hahaha. Thanks for the clarification, as they are two very different things. XD
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:22:05
    Quote from: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:07:47

    The gold label Omnikey 102s typically have blue alps,


    Your link is not gold label, and the seller even noted "white" Alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:27:58
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:57:36
    A blue Alps under $200 would be a good deal.
    Out of curiosity, what is so special about blue alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:30:46
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:22:05
    Quote from: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:07:47

    The gold label Omnikey 102s typically have blue alps,


    Your link is not gold label, and the seller even noted "white" Alps.

    It's not?

    (http://puu.sh/lKUuP/cf6a691e73.jpg)

     Because it seems that way to me.

    (http://puu.sh/lKUym/431d453b5e.png)

    No mention of white Alps here. Perhaps the link got broken since it's a board I sent an offer on or perhaps you're looking in the wrong place.

    Quote from: trenzafeeds on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:27:58
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:57:36
    A blue Alps under $200 would be a good deal.
    Out of curiosity, what is so special about blue alps?

    Quote from: trenzafeeds on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:27:58
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:57:36
    A blue Alps under $200 would be a good deal.
    Out of curiosity, what is so special about blue alps?

    Blue Alps, like most of the older complicated Alps varieties, have a long contact plate, which imo gives a more solid and stable feel to the switch. Blue Alps has a light-ish 65g actuation and a click that sounds very refined. 

    Unlike Cherry MX, which uses a two-piece slider that slaps into itself to create the click, Alps switches use metal click leaves (leaf springs). Blue Alps combines a light actuation with a solid feel, nice tactility and clickiness. It somehow just got it all right. :P

    They're very popular for those reasons, I guess. I haven't found another Alps clicky switch that quite matches blues.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:42:26
    Quote from: trenzafeeds on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:27:58
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 December 2015, 19:57:36
    A blue Alps under $200 would be a good deal.
    Out of curiosity, what is so special about blue alps?

    As E3E said, they're really solidly built and smooth-operating clicky switches so they're nice.  CPTBadAss also accidentally hyped them up a bunch after he tried some, which raised people's attention to them.  akimbo also hosted a tour for a blue alps board, which got them into people's hands to try.

    quality switch + exposure + hype = high demand
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:43:24
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:42:26

    As E3E said, they're really solidly built and smooth-operating clicky switches so they're nice.  CPTBadAss also accidentally hyped them up a bunch after he tried some, which raised people's attention to them.  akimbo also hosted a tour for a blue alps board, which got them into people's hands to try.

    quality switch + exposure + hype = high demand

    And I'm guessing also lack of supply?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:44:36
    Quote from: trenzafeeds on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:43:24
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:42:26

    As E3E said, they're really solidly built and smooth-operating clicky switches so they're nice.  CPTBadAss also accidentally hyped them up a bunch after he tried some, which raised people's attention to them.  akimbo also hosted a tour for a blue alps board, which got them into people's hands to try.

    quality switch + exposure + hype = high demand

    And I'm guessing also lack of supply?

    Yep, that too.  They're not a super common alps switch and they're snatched up pretty quick.  IIRC, going rate is $1+/switch.  Getting a board to harvest switches from for $100 is a good deal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:52:02
    Yeah. They're not exactly the most uncommon of the Alps switches, but they are probably the highest in terms of demand, so it makes it even harder to get one if they do pop up. Bidding wars are fierce and people are quick to snatch up BIN deals.

    They do come around pretty often though, you just have to keep an eye out for them. Talking with people who have gotten boards from e-cyclers, it seems they tend to find more blue alps than green alps for whatever reason. This coming from two US haulers and one from Australia. No idea why green Alps seem harder to find out in the wild offline world.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Sat, 05 December 2015, 23:05:28
    What is Satan GH60? I can't find any information on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sun, 06 December 2015, 05:06:02
    Quote from: Vozella on Sat, 05 December 2015, 23:05:28
    What is Satan GH60? I can't find any information on it.
    Try to google "satan gh60 site:geekhack.org". One of the top threads here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66624).

    tl;dr It's an actually available Asian implementation of GH60 (http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/), the DIY 60% keyboard, that originated here (thus the name) and became infamous for group-buy length (competing with 7bit's GBs).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mashby on Sun, 06 December 2015, 14:12:00
    Quote from: davkol on Sun, 06 December 2015, 05:06:02
    Quote from: Vozella on Sat, 05 December 2015, 23:05:28
    What is Satan GH60? I can't find any information on it.
    Try to google "satan gh60 site:geekhack.org". One of the top threads here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66624).

    tl;dr It's an actually available Asian implementation of GH60 (http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/), the DIY 60% keyboard, that originated here (thus the name) and became infamous for group-buy length (competing with 7bit's GBs).

    However, I believe that it is one revision behind the production GH60.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 06 December 2015, 14:15:33
    It is also not stictly software compatible with the normal GH60 TMK repo, so you need to tweak a few things.
    However, I think it has the same features, though not the same layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 06 December 2015, 14:57:51
    I remember someone swapping their screws on their Kingsaver from this site (http://www.fastener-express.com/metric-aluminum-flat-head-cap-screws.aspx), but I forget what size/length screws they were.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 07 December 2015, 09:46:17
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Mon, 07 December 2015, 10:50:56
    cheapest place to get 100 mx blues ( or gaterons, don't care )
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 December 2015, 10:51:49
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 07 December 2015, 10:50:56
    cheapest place to get 100 mx blues ( or gaterons, don't care )

    MK.com or Amazon for Gaterons.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 07 December 2015, 10:55:17
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 07 December 2015, 10:50:56
    cheapest place to get 100 mx blues ( or gaterons, don't care )

    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=56

    I can't seem to find any Gateron blue switches on Amazon atm. It's like the only one they don't have in stock. No browns either!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 07 December 2015, 14:56:24
    Any one know what size the bolts are that screw into blockers such as KMAC 1.2 and Duck boards?

    I believe it's M3x6mm but I just wanna double check. I'm not sure if it's M2 or M3.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 08 December 2015, 01:54:26
    For Pok3r-compatible cases it's usually M2x6, but those spacers are built into the bottom of the board, so I'm not sure those are the same as the ones you mean.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ika on Tue, 08 December 2015, 02:02:01
    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 07 December 2015, 10:55:17
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 07 December 2015, 10:50:56
    cheapest place to get 100 mx blues ( or gaterons, don't care )

    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=56

    I can't seem to find any Gateron blue switches on Amazon atm. It's like the only one they don't have in stock. No browns either!

    normally Corus-KB stocks them but I guess they're out of stock. The latest massdrop is going to land within the week though so there will probably be some people selling theirs soon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 08 December 2015, 02:14:42
    I wonder if Gateron are running into supply chain issues due to success...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Tue, 08 December 2015, 10:39:25
    I'll just pick up some cherrys, i really just need them for the stems and springs.

    And while gaterons feel better out of the box, broken in cherry housings are much nicer to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 08 December 2015, 17:39:37
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 07 December 2015, 14:56:24
    Any one know what size the bolts are that screw into blockers such as KMAC 1.2 and Duck boards?

    I believe it's M3x6mm but I just wanna double check. I'm not sure if it's M2 or M3.

    i believe it's m3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 08 December 2015, 18:18:26
    Is there a database for all keycap sets and/or sold artisans?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 08 December 2015, 18:27:24
    It would be an impossible task to maintain a list of every keycap set ever but you can check the DT wiki and retailers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: byker on Tue, 08 December 2015, 18:30:26
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 08 December 2015, 18:18:26
    Is there a database for all keycap sets and/or sold artisans?

    There is this site, not sure how comprehensive it is though. http://keypuller.com (http://keypuller.com)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 08 December 2015, 18:36:34
    Quote from: byker on Tue, 08 December 2015, 18:30:26
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 08 December 2015, 18:18:26
    Is there a database for all keycap sets and/or sold artisans?

    There is this site, not sure how comprehensive it is though. http://keypuller.com (http://keypuller.com)

    They're working on it. Pretty solid for your basic cap sets, I think artisans are coming along, but nowhere close to the individual catalogues you might be able to dig up on GH if you search hard enough.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Tue, 08 December 2015, 18:42:21
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 08 December 2015, 18:18:26
    Is there a database for all keycap sets and/or sold artisans?

    there's no giant list with all artisans, but some particular designs/makers have pretty extensive catalogues, eg this awesome BBv2 catalogue (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74526)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 09 December 2015, 05:31:22
    Didn't realize there were so many V2s never mind other ones. Just thought it'd be a fun Christmas project but seems more than a months work. I'll do some more research before I build anything :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 09 December 2015, 08:38:53
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 08 December 2015, 17:39:37
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 07 December 2015, 14:56:24
    Any one know what size the bolts are that screw into blockers such as KMAC 1.2 and Duck boards?

    I believe it's M3x6mm but I just wanna double check. I'm not sure if it's M2 or M3.

    i believe it's m3

    yeah I ordered m3, that's what I thought as well. Thanks yo
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 09 December 2015, 08:49:26
    Quote from: E3E on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:41:56
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 04 December 2015, 17:09:08
    Does someone know which set is this one? and if there is something similar that is comercially available in double shot? In particular I am interested in that caps lock style with 1.5u step.


    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/c9PZKpY.jpg)


    That's an Alps keyset, ideus. Those are caps from the SGI Granite. I call that style of stepping "Alps stepped," since it is different from Cherry's kind of stepping and is only seen on OEM Alps boards. You won't see Cherry-stepped caps on any Alps boards and vise versa, as far as I know.

    The Duck Mini allowed either Alps or Cherry MX.


    Thank you for the feedback. Someone offered me a set but I do not have any ALPS keyboard anymore, but I like that type of stepped capslock with 1.5u top.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 09 December 2015, 10:03:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:57:20
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 28 November 2015, 13:51:45
    I have a switch on a homemade board which I've assembled, but not used much since I (STILL) don't have the stabilizers.

    The switch doesn't activate when I press the button normally, only when I first press it all the way down, THEN push really hard. Does that sound like something that can be fixed without soldering, or should I replace the switch right away?

    I'd just replace the switch.

    I finally got around to it, and it turns out it was a bad soldering job. The solder hadn't covered the pin, but was aaaaaaaaaalmost touching it. Every time I pressed hard down, I also pressed the PCB down since the board is plateless, and the solder touched the pin.

    Anyway, I didn't have to replace the switch :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueNalgene on Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:19:15
    Has anyone taken a custom board in carry-on luggage before?  I'm going out of the country for a week+ with only a tablet.  I'm worried that TSA might give me grief for having a suspicious bare circuit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:30:06
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:31:08
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:19:15
    Has anyone taken a custom board in carry-on luggage before?  I'm going out of the country for a week+ with only a tablet.  I'm worried that TSA might give me grief for having a suspicious bare circuit.

    I've carried both a Gon Nerd 60 with my terrible soldering and an HHKB in the same carry on bag and didn't experience any problems
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BlueNalgene on Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:45:23
    Thanks.  I didn't want to lose one of my babies!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:52:27
    Worst case, they make you take it out and price it is a functioning keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 December 2015, 20:05:04
    I carried 3 custom keyboards with me to Keycon this year. And several bare PCBs. And some switches on the way home. I never check luggage, and I didn't have one problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 09 December 2015, 20:26:07
    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:19:15
    Has anyone taken a custom board in carry-on luggage before?  I'm going out of the country for a week+ with only a tablet.  I'm worried that TSA might give me grief for having a suspicious bare circuit.

    I actually did get stopped at the airport with my massive xerox board. But I'm sure just carrying any small regular board you'll be fine; frankly I just think I got a bit unlucky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 December 2015, 21:16:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 09 December 2015, 20:34:39
    For full keyboard backlighting, what is the common implementation of resistors?  What I mean is each led has its own, one resistor for a group, one for the entire board.

    Does the common convention from mass produced boards follow into custom community driven boards or does it change?

    Does anyone know about how much current a USB teensied board with mx switches draws?

    Does the layout size affect current draw?

    Simple questions man...

    == == == == ==

    Quote from: BlueNalgene on Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:19:15
    Has anyone taken a custom board in carry-on luggage before?  I'm going out of the country for a week+ with only a tablet.  I'm worried that TSA might give me grief for having a suspicious bare circuit.

    I have yes. It wasn't an issue. The Xray guy just gets confused.

    Mod Edit: Fixed a double post.  Hi CPT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 10 December 2015, 02:43:17
    I confused the hell out of them once by carrying an old pendulum clock through customs. They couldn't make heads or tails of it even after I took it out and showed it to them. The insisted I put the pendulum and weights on it before they understood it.

    I think it would have been faster if I just said 'it's a bomb, here's 20 bucks'.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:18:01
    Any of these worth considering?

    http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/sys/5336906689.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:19:43
    Quote from: Bromono on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:18:01
    Any of these worth considering?

    http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/sys/5336906689.html

    As a keyboard nerd? Meh. The switches kinda feel like variants of MYs.
    As a vintage computer nerd? Yeah
    As a retro game enthusiast? **** yes

    Edit: I got so excited when I looked over the haul again. That's vintage computing and video game gold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:22:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:19:43
    Quote from: Bromono on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:18:01
    Any of these worth considering?

    http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/sys/5336906689.html

    As a keyboard nerd? Meh. The switches kinda feel like variants of MYs.
    As a vintage computer nerd? Yeah
    As a retro game enthusiast? **** yes

    Hmmmmm... Noted...

    What would be the most valuable thing in the lot? the Commodore looks cool
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:50:05
    Quote from: Bromono on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:18:01
    Any of these worth considering?

    http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/sys/5336906689.html
    The TI-99/4A Might have T-Stem Alps which are pretty nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 17:07:25
    Quote from: Dernubenfrieken on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:50:05
    Quote from: Bromono on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:18:01
    Any of these worth considering?

    http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/sys/5336906689.html
    The TI-99/4A Might have T-Stem Alps which are pretty nice.

    They used too many switch types in them though, I have six of them; three with Alps SKCC, two with rubber dome, and one with Mitsumi.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:52:46
    Before I start a dedicated thread, I must ask. Is it possible to cut off the numpad of a membrane keyboard and have it still work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:54:00
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:54:05
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:52:46
    Before I start a dedicated thread, I must ask. Is it possible to cut off the numpad of a membrane keyboard and have it still work?

    hmmm....I know with like a Model M you can fold the membrane back and with keyboards with PCBs, you can rewire them to work. I don't see why it wouldn't but I don't know 100%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:55:31
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:54:00
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:52:46
    Before I start a dedicated thread, I must ask. Is it possible to cut off the numpad of a membrane keyboard and have it still work?

    really depends on the connections on the membrane.  I would say no to be safe without looking

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:54:05
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:52:46
    Before I start a dedicated thread, I must ask. Is it possible to cut off the numpad of a membrane keyboard and have it still work?

    hmmm....I know with like a Model M you can fold the membrane back and with keyboards with PCBs, you can rewire them to work. I don't see why it wouldn't but I don't know 100%.

    I forgot to say it's the Logitech K120. If it's possible with other keyboards, maybe there's someone else who's done it on this keyboard. I'll look around. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:44:56
    why is the ctrl key on Realforce boards so different?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:59:29
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Much smoother and slightly lighter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:01:41
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:03:48
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:59:29
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Much smoother and slightly lighter.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:01:41
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Agree with blaise.  I can type on either for long periods, but blues are better

     :eek: I have just tried alps white about two weeks ago, and they feel amazing to me already. So much better than I thought.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:26:51
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:33:13
    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:26:51
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:03:48
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:59:29
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Much smoother and slightly lighter.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:01:41
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Agree with blaise.  I can type on either for long periods, but blues are better

     :eek: I have just tried alps white about two weeks ago, and they feel amazing to me already. So much better than I thought.

    Try brown alps!!  I want to compare them to topre, but I don't have much topre right now...

    Can't wait until my brown tactile Alps come in. Hopefully I like them more than the fiasco that was SKCM Ambers (they weren't THAT bad, but to blues... ehhh). If these really feel like Topre, then they'll be a good gateway into the Topre world once the Stormtrooper 30g silenced Topre board comes out.

    That will be mine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 11 December 2015, 01:08:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:26:51
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:03:48
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:59:29
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Much smoother and slightly lighter.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:01:41
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Agree with blaise.  I can type on either for long periods, but blues are better

     :eek: I have just tried alps white about two weeks ago, and they feel amazing to me already. So much better than I thought.

    Try brown alps!!  I want to compare them to topre, but I don't have much topre right now...

    I hope I get some luck to find more alps board  :)) I am quite interested in them now....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: moemoe666 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 03:55:44
    does RACE 2's pcb support both ANSI and ISO?
    mine is ANSI now but have idea to change into ISO while changing leds / switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 December 2015, 06:24:38
    Quote from: moemoe666 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 03:55:44
    does RACE 2's pcb support both ANSI and ISO?
    mine is ANSI now but have idea to change into ISO while changing leds / switches.

    I mean even if it doesn't, you can modify the PCB to work with ISO. infiniti did it on his Cherry keyboard.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:26:51
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:03:48
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:59:29
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Much smoother and slightly lighter.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:01:41
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Agree with blaise.  I can type on either for long periods, but blues are better

     :eek: I have just tried alps white about two weeks ago, and they feel amazing to me already. So much better than I thought.

    Try brown alps!!  I want to compare them to topre, but I don't have much topre right now...

    I agree with the opinions here. I find White Alps a bit too heavy. Blues definitely feel lighter and smoother to me. And Mmmmm SKCM Brown Alps are so nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:11:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 December 2015, 06:24:38
    Quote from: moemoe666 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 03:55:44
    does RACE 2's pcb support both ANSI and ISO?
    mine is ANSI now but have idea to change into ISO while changing leds / switches.

    I mean even if it doesn't, you can modify the PCB to work with ISO. infiniti did it on his Cherry keyboard.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:26:51
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:03:48
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:59:29
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Much smoother and slightly lighter.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:01:41
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:41:06
    how does blue alps feel compare to white alps?

    Agree with blaise.  I can type on either for long periods, but blues are better

     :eek: I have just tried alps white about two weeks ago, and they feel amazing to me already. So much better than I thought.

    Try brown alps!!  I want to compare them to topre, but I don't have much topre right now...

    I agree with the opinions here. I find White Alps a bit too heavy. Blues definitely feel lighter and smoother to me. And Mmmmm SKCM Brown Alps are so nice.

    Two of the switches I have yet to try are in-bound by way of keyboards, so I'm pretty excited to try white (yeah, I've had like 4 SKCM blue boards but no whites, go figure) and SKCM brown. :D The last switches I need to try aside from the unicorn SKCM green, are SKCM black and SKCM dampened ivory/cream.

    There is also that linear cream found on the Bondwell 8T laptop. I've seen one of those go on eBay for a decent price not too long ago. I'm not too interested, since I've found my linear happy place with Alps, but it's always nice to try a new switch!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:28:30
    Where can I find the measurements for standoffs and the USB hole for a 60% case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:31:39
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:28:30
    Where can I find the measurements for standoffs and the USB hole for a 60% case?

    This thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0) and Making Stuff Together should be a good start.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:31:41
    Quote from: nmur on Thu, 10 December 2015, 23:44:56
    why is the ctrl key on Realforce boards so different?

    Right??

    Its the only key on my board that does not have a silent slider on -.-

    I have no clue on why they would possibly need to make that one key unique...


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:38:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:31:39
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:28:30
    Where can I find the measurements for standoffs and the USB hole for a 60% case?

    This thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0) and Making Stuff Together should be a good start.

    I might be being really dumb but I can't find anything apart from this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66787.msg1565870#msg1565870) but it's missing some measurements.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:40:11
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:38:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:31:39
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:28:30
    Where can I find the measurements for standoffs and the USB hole for a 60% case?

    This thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0) and Making Stuff Together should be a good start.

    I might be being really dumb but I can't find anything apart from this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66787.msg1565870#msg1565870) but it's missing some measurements.

    I don't know exactly where those dimensions are nor am I sure where there's open sourced CAD models and drawings for 60% board. That's why I was vague and you'll have to do some digging yourself unless someone else knows.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Fri, 11 December 2015, 10:13:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:40:11
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:38:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:31:39
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:28:30
    Where can I find the measurements for standoffs and the USB hole for a 60% case?

    This thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0) and Making Stuff Together should be a good start.

    I might be being really dumb but I can't find anything apart from this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66787.msg1565870#msg1565870) but it's missing some measurements.

    I don't know exactly where those dimensions are nor am I sure where there's open sourced CAD models and drawings for 60% board. That's why I was vague and you'll have to do some digging yourself unless someone else knows.

    According to jdcarpe all creators are protective so I'll have to wait till I get my Pok3r I guess :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 11 December 2015, 19:47:12
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 10 December 2015, 20:52:46
    Before I start a dedicated thread, I must ask. Is it possible to cut off the numpad of a membrane keyboard and have it still work?

    I've seen this done a number of times. Specifically with Dell and Lenovo boards. You should be able to find something on Google.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: element72 on Sat, 12 December 2015, 15:10:15
    I just got the KB paradise v60 and I tried gaming with it. The issue I had was i kept pressing the spacebar on accident. Is there something I can buy to raise the keyboard or give the keyboard legs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 12 December 2015, 15:34:49
    Quote from: element72 on Sat, 12 December 2015, 15:10:15
    I just got the KB paradise v60 and I tried gaming with it. The issue I had was i kept pressing the spacebar on accident. Is there something I can buy to raise the keyboard or give the keyboard legs?
    3M adhesive bumpons. Search for them on amazon or eBay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:18:00
    How big do screws for a case have to be? I've heard M3 and M2 been thrown around but not sure about the 4mm, which I'm guessing is the length. For reference I want any PCB to fit; 60% case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:18:45
    What kind of stabs do I need for Alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:27:36
    Quote from: Eszett on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:18:45
    What kind of stabs do I need for Alps?

    Some vintage Alps boards use Costar, but most tend to use Alps stabs, which are similar in some ways, but the wire used is thin, about 1mm, where costar wire can vary a bit from what I've seen. An old Alps board I have has 1.31mm wire for Costar, but WASD's costar wire and the wire that came with my Infinity is thinner.


    Is this for an Alps Party 60%? If so, then you will need Alps stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:29:17
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:18:00
    How big do screws for a case have to be? I've heard M3 and M2 been thrown around but not sure about the 4mm, which I'm guessing is the length. For reference I want any PCB to fit; 60% case.
    Poker takes m2. As for the length, the max length is certainly over 10mm, since I use m2x10mm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:34:18
    My current measurements are 10.2mm sidewall, plate is flush with top and is 1.5mm tall, standoffs are 2.5mm tall. What length screws will I need? :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Sat, 12 December 2015, 17:33:31
    Guys,

    Jimmy Johns or Pizza Hut?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 12 December 2015, 17:33:57
    Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 12 December 2015, 17:33:31
    Guys,

    Jimmy Johns or Pizza Hut?


    JJ anytime.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sat, 12 December 2015, 18:06:38
    E3E, it's for a custom build. I gonna browse the Alps Party thread fur further information on ALPS stabs ..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 12 December 2015, 19:17:46
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:34:18
    My current measurements are 10.2mm sidewall, plate is flush with top and is 1.5mm tall, standoffs are 2.5mm tall. What length screws will I need? :confused:
    I would make your standoffs just a bit taller, at 3.00 mm. Wall height seems good. For screws, I use M2 x 4mm (0.4 mm pitch) to attach the PCB to the case in all my 60% cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 12 December 2015, 20:00:32
    Quote from: Eszett on Sat, 12 December 2015, 18:06:38
    E3E, it's for a custom build. I gonna browse the Alps Party thread fur further information on ALPS stabs ..

    There are two primary types: square Alps type and regular cruciform Costar type.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 13 December 2015, 09:18:04
    What the HELL is the point of Cherry Plate stabs? PCB stabs are more compatible with plates, more stable AND easier to install!
    Am I alone in this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 13 December 2015, 10:27:48
    Quick building question. For some reason after taking this keyboard apart and rebuilding it a few times over the last couple of weeks, the enter key no longer registers keypresses. It's not the switch, because I've swapped it a few times. It's not the software, because it works fine on an identical keyboard with the same pcb (Satan 60).
    So my solution was to put two switches in the enter position, and skip the stabilizer. Great, right?
    Yeah, except now the enter switch no longer fits, since the holes don't align.
    My so far I've been using two 1U caps, but since the first one has no effect, I find myself having to stretch my pinky far over to hit the second one.
    If I could, I would connect the two 1U caps so that if I press one, the other one also goes down, but that would actually require the stabilizer which no longer has room to work...
    So now what?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 13 December 2015, 11:55:46
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 12 December 2015, 19:17:46
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:34:18
    My current measurements are 10.2mm sidewall, plate is flush with top and is 1.5mm tall, standoffs are 2.5mm tall. What length screws will I need? :confused:
    I would make your standoffs just a bit taller, at 3.00 mm. Wall height seems good. For screws, I use M2 x 4mm (0.4 mm pitch) to attach the PCB to the case in all my 60% cases.
    Do I need to make a whole in the standoffs to ease the threading? I'm not sure how to do the threading, period.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 13 December 2015, 11:56:54
    Different question - how much should a 60% aluminum keyboard case run me? I've been quoted £530.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 13 December 2015, 13:37:05


    Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 13 December 2015, 09:18:04
    What the HELL is the point of Cherry Plate stabs? PCB stabs are more compatible with plates, more stable AND easier to install!
    Am I alone in this?

    Not all PCBs have mounting holes for stabilizers so plate mount are the only option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 13 December 2015, 13:38:11
    But they would still be a poor solution. Did plate mounts come first and pcb later?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 13 December 2015, 13:50:03
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 13 December 2015, 13:37:05


    Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 13 December 2015, 09:18:04
    What the HELL is the point of Cherry Plate stabs? PCB stabs are more compatible with plates, more stable AND easier to install!
    Am I alone in this?

    Not all PCBs have mounting holes for stabilizers so plate mount are the only option.

    Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 13 December 2015, 13:38:11
    But they would still be a poor solution. Did plate mounts come first and pcb later?

    Also, what about hand wired boards that don't even use a PCB.  In this situation, the feel difference between Cherry and Costar is pretty similar, though cherry are quieter and much easier to remove and reinstall caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 13 December 2015, 13:52:19
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 13 December 2015, 11:56:54
    Different question - how much should a 60% aluminum keyboard case run me? I've been quoted £530.

    That doesn't sound that unreasonable for a one off.  For one off parts, you pay a lot in setup fees, and machine time.  Not to mention, they shop doing the work doesn't get any sort of discount for buying raw material in bulk.  Depending on the size of stock needed, it can get much more expensive than what people think.  When you get to buying raw material like this, you are paying for it per pound.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 13 December 2015, 15:45:55
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 13 December 2015, 13:52:19
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 13 December 2015, 11:56:54
    Different question - how much should a 60% aluminum keyboard case run me? I've been quoted £530.

    That doesn't sound that unreasonable for a one off.  For one off parts, you pay a lot in setup fees, and machine time.  Not to mention, they shop doing the work doesn't get any sort of discount for buying raw material in bulk.  Depending on the size of stock needed, it can get much more expensive than what people think.  When you get to buying raw material like this, you are paying for it per pound.

    Ah, completely forgot price goes down with quantity, for 10 it's a lot lower.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 14 December 2015, 04:43:08
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 13 December 2015, 13:50:03
    Also, what about hand wired boards that don't even use a PCB.  In this situation, the feel difference between Cherry and Costar is pretty similar, though cherry are quieter and much easier to remove and reinstall caps.

    Another good point...

    Allright, I will deign to allow them exist, but keep them away from me from now on, I never want to see them again by my royal command!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 14:46:25
    SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:22:35
    what are the hot swappable led stand off thingys called? minds going blank.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:25:06
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:22:35
    what are the hot swappable led stand off thingys called? minds going blank.

    sip sockets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:27:00
    Quote from: Jixr on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:22:35
    what are the hot swappable led stand off thingys called? minds going blank.

    Yep, typically SIP sockets. :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:34:55
    there ya go, typed everything into ebay and couldn't remember what they were called.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:44:37
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 14:46:25
    SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    STEP
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 17:45:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:44:37
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 14:46:25
    SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    STEP
    I meant to ask a slightly different question: how to get a SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 18:15:22
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 17:45:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:44:37
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 14:46:25
    SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    STEP
    I meant to ask a slightly different question: how to get a SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    Oh, haha. Couldn't tell ya, sorry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 15 December 2015, 14:02:40
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 18:15:22
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 17:45:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:44:37
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 14:46:25
    SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    STEP
    I meant to ask a slightly different question: how to get a SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    Oh, haha. Couldn't tell ya, sorry.

    I don't think there is any, well not that I found a while ago.  This was the biggest reason why I quit using that program. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 15 December 2015, 15:32:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 15 December 2015, 14:02:40
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 18:15:22
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 17:45:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:44:37
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 14:46:25
    SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    STEP
    I meant to ask a slightly different question: how to get a SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    Oh, haha. Couldn't tell ya, sorry.

    I don't think there is any, well not that I found a while ago.  This was the biggest reason why I quit using that program.

    What did you move to? I want to keep designing but don't want to pay for anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 December 2015, 15:33:25
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 15 December 2015, 15:32:36
    What did you move to? I want to keep designing but don't want to pay for anything.

    FreeCad seems to be a popular option here. I highly suggest trying to get something like AutoCAD or Inventor from Autodesk which are free.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 15 December 2015, 15:45:06
    If you are a student you can also get AutoDesk software for free for three years.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 15 December 2015, 15:45:54
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 15 December 2015, 15:45:06
    If you are a student you can also get AutoDesk software for free for three years.

    They don't check for an .edu account so you can get it if you tell them you're a student. Which....in a non-traditional way, you are in this case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Tue, 15 December 2015, 16:50:55
    I do cad work for a living, if people need help with things just shoot me a pm, i'd be happy to look over peoples models, and I Have quite a few designs myself for things, just the stupid process of getting them made is what kills me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 15 December 2015, 20:59:39
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 15 December 2015, 15:32:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 15 December 2015, 14:02:40
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 18:15:22
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 17:45:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:44:37
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 14:46:25
    SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    STEP
    I meant to ask a slightly different question: how to get a SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    Oh, haha. Couldn't tell ya, sorry.

    I don't think there is any, well not that I found a while ago.  This was the biggest reason why I quit using that program.

    What did you move to? I want to keep designing but don't want to pay for anything.

    I personally moved to the student version of SolidWorks, but I am part of a loophole that can get it for $20 with veterans discount.  With that I have to email them a copy of my discharge paperwork, so that process takes a couple extra days.  But I get a physical CD in the mail, which I prefer.  But it doesn't come with any tech support, updates, is only a one year license, there are some features blocked, and technically you can't use it for commercial work.  Though I think the standard rate for the student version is either $100 or $150.  The other thing to consider, the current SolidWorks student edition will not even install on Win 10.  That won't happen until SP5, my version is 2.0 and I got it a couple months ago.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 15 December 2015, 21:27:46
    GMK do a key that has a "JOKER" legend on it - where would this key have come from and what sort of purpose would it serve on a keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 15 December 2015, 21:30:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 15 December 2015, 20:59:39
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 15 December 2015, 15:32:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 15 December 2015, 14:02:40
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 18:15:22
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 17:45:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:44:37
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 14:46:25
    SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    STEP
    I meant to ask a slightly different question: how to get a SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    Oh, haha. Couldn't tell ya, sorry.

    I don't think there is any, well not that I found a while ago.  This was the biggest reason why I quit using that program.

    What did you move to? I want to keep designing but don't want to pay for anything.

    I personally moved to the student version of SolidWorks, but I am part of a loophole that can get it for $20 with veterans discount.  With that I have to email them a copy of my discharge paperwork, so that process takes a couple extra days.  But I get a physical CD in the mail, which I prefer.  But it doesn't come with any tech support, updates, is only a one year license, there are some features blocked, and technically you can't use it for commercial work.  Though I think the standard rate for the student version is either $100 or $150.  The other thing to consider, the current SolidWorks student edition will not even install on Win 10.  That won't happen until SP5, my version is 2.0 and I got it a couple months ago.
    I just ordered my veteran's student edition today. I really hope it installs on Windows 10, as I don't have anything else. I didn't know the regular student edition sold for $150; I thought they were always $20.

    I'm looking forward to learning Solidworks, but damn are they proud of their software. Autodesk gives their stuff to students for free. And they are the industry standard.

    I looked into getting Solidworks to replace AutoCAD at work, and the quote for a single seat license was in the thousands. Just wow. Now the sales guy won't leave me alone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 16 December 2015, 01:35:48
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 15 December 2015, 21:30:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 15 December 2015, 20:59:39
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 15 December 2015, 15:32:36
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 15 December 2015, 14:02:40
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 18:15:22
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 17:45:07
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:44:37
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 December 2015, 14:46:25
    SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    STEP
    I meant to ask a slightly different question: how to get a SketchUp file to either STEP, IGS or PARASOLID?

    Oh, haha. Couldn't tell ya, sorry.

    I don't think there is any, well not that I found a while ago.  This was the biggest reason why I quit using that program.

    What did you move to? I want to keep designing but don't want to pay for anything.

    I personally moved to the student version of SolidWorks, but I am part of a loophole that can get it for $20 with veterans discount.  With that I have to email them a copy of my discharge paperwork, so that process takes a couple extra days.  But I get a physical CD in the mail, which I prefer.  But it doesn't come with any tech support, updates, is only a one year license, there are some features blocked, and technically you can't use it for commercial work.  Though I think the standard rate for the student version is either $100 or $150.  The other thing to consider, the current SolidWorks student edition will not even install on Win 10.  That won't happen until SP5, my version is 2.0 and I got it a couple months ago.
    I just ordered my veteran's student edition today. I really hope it installs on Windows 10, as I don't have anything else. I didn't know the regular student edition sold for $150; I thought they were always $20.

    I'm looking forward to learning Solidworks, but damn are they proud of their software. Autodesk gives their stuff to students for free. And they are the industry standard.

    I looked into getting Solidworks to replace AutoCAD at work, and the quote for a single seat license was in the thousands. Just wow. Now the sales guy won't leave me alone.

    Unless they updated to a newer service pack since I ordered mine, it won't even install.  It has to do with the .NET framework iirc.  Could setup a dual boot.  For this school year version, support for Win 10 won't begin until SP5.  But next years version is slated for full support.

    Also, if I remember correct, unlimited installs enterprise version of SolidWorks was in the realm of $43,000 as of about 3 years ago.  Yeah they are proud of their work, but it is very nice software.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 16 December 2015, 07:49:08
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Tue, 15 December 2015, 21:27:46
    GMK do a key that has a "JOKER" legend on it - where would this key have come from and what sort of purpose would it serve on a keyboard?

    To my knowledge GMK does not do any custom legends. If this is GMK it might have been a proof of concept..?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:00:51
    Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 16 December 2015, 07:49:08
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Tue, 15 December 2015, 21:27:46
    GMK do a key that has a "JOKER" legend on it - where would this key have come from and what sort of purpose would it serve on a keyboard?

    To my knowledge GMK does not do any custom legends. If this is GMK it might have been a proof of concept..?

    It's a legend they have molds for. Not sure of the history of the key but I know Ivan first introduced it as a surprise for his GMK Dolch buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.msg1484519#msg1484519).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:50:06
    Any link for a picture of the Joker key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:54:03
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:50:06
    Any link for a picture of the Joker key?

    Literally on the same page as I linked in the previous reply is a picture. Scroll up slightly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:58:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:54:03
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:50:06
    Any link for a picture of the Joker key?

    Literally on the same page as I linked in the previous reply is a picture. Scroll up slightly.


    I found it, thank you, it is a row 1 one, isn't it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:59:58
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:58:05
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:54:03
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 08:50:06
    Any link for a picture of the Joker key?

    Literally on the same page as I linked in the previous reply is a picture. Scroll up slightly.


    I found it, thank you, it is a row 1 one, isn't it?

    I think so yeah.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 09:01:55
    Anyone has had experience with the Cherry silencers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 16 December 2015, 09:32:18
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 09:36:05
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 16 December 2015, 09:32:18
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 09:01:55
    Anyone has had experience with the Cherry silencers?

    mason has them

    Is mason a user or a vendor or something? A little cryptic there...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Wed, 16 December 2015, 09:44:19
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 09:36:05
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 16 December 2015, 09:32:18
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2015, 09:01:55
    Anyone has had experience with the Cherry silencers?

    mason has them

    Is mason a user or a vendor or something? A little cryptic there...

    A member. ;)

    He posted a typing video: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55910.msg1947675#msg1947675

    Unless :triangle: those masons
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mashby on Wed, 16 December 2015, 12:43:48
    To be clear, those are the QMX switch tops and not the silenced Cherry switches that only Corsair keyboards will be featuring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 16 December 2015, 13:11:35
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 13:18:02
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 16 December 2015, 13:11:35
    sPoOky!

    I'm scared hold me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Wed, 16 December 2015, 17:10:44
    Are all IBM Model M/F keycaps PBT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 17:11:42
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 16 December 2015, 17:10:44
    Are all IBM Model M/F keycaps PBT?

    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Sat, 19 December 2015, 09:20:04
    Do Topre switch blockers exist?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 December 2015, 09:24:31
    Quote from: Solo on Sat, 19 December 2015, 09:20:04
    Do Topre switch blockers exist?

    Not that I'm aware of
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:01:47
    Can someone good with CAD finish my model for me? I think it'll take less than 10 minutes. :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:14:37
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:01:47
    Can someone good with CAD finish my model for me? I think it'll take less than 10 minutes. :-[


    You may post at the making stuff together sub-forum, with what you already have, and let interested people that can help to join the thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:33:14
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:14:37
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:01:47
    Can someone good with CAD finish my model for me? I think it'll take less than 10 minutes. :-[


    You may post at the making stuff together sub-forum, with what you already have, and let interested people that can help to join the thread.
    Shameless plug (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77731.50) :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:51:43
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:33:14
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:14:37
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 19 December 2015, 10:01:47
    Can someone good with CAD finish my model for me? I think it'll take less than 10 minutes. :-[


    You may post at the making stuff together sub-forum, with what you already have, and let interested people that can help to join the thread.
    Shameless plug (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77731.50) :-\


    Ah that is the acrylic case, well you already have the thread, but with no reference there was not clear that was you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Mon, 21 December 2015, 10:43:49
    Is there a way to switch \| and ~` on the HHKB? I've looked in Karabiner, but didn't find anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 21 December 2015, 10:55:37
    I'm on my phone and trying to find threads for help in making a mould and casting a keycap but I'm not having much luck. Would anybody be able to send a link or two my way?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Mon, 21 December 2015, 11:15:46
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 21 December 2015, 10:55:37
    I'm on my phone and trying to find threads for help in making a mould and casting a keycap but I'm not having much luck. Would anybody be able to send a link or two my way?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67898
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67744
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62696
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46284
    http://imgur.com/a/nPuMY

    These are the links I have saved when I eventually invest.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:10:01
    Perfect! Thanks the help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 21 December 2015, 17:21:14
    For keyset GBs, are you pretty much stuck with a manufacturer that already has the keyset moulds such as SP and GMK?  Or are there any freely available designs that can be used with any manufacturer that does plastic moulding?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 21 December 2015, 17:57:57
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 21 December 2015, 17:21:14
    For keyset GBs, are you pretty much stuck with a manufacturer that already has the keyset moulds such as SP and GMK?  Or are there any freely available designs that can be used with any manufacturer that does plastic moulding?

    The manufacturer has to have the molds for the caps for the injection molding process.  There have been group buys to fund specific size and shape molds that manufacturers didn't have.  But those molds are north of $3000 per cap size and row profile.  This quote iirc came from SP.  They do seem to be much more willing to do custom stuff like that along with custom colors for much lower MOQs than GMK.  In fact GMK just cut their MOQ for custom key sets not to long ago by half.  It used to be 500 sets iirc here.

    The reason molds are so expensive is tolerances needed for a quality product.  Tolerances are what cost money.  For example here is a quote from Sherlines FAQ (http://www.sherline.com/faq.htm).  "The tools we make are as accurate as you can build them without expensive grinding and heat treating. We have well over a million dollars invested in state-of-the-art CNC machine tools and tooling to mass produce accurate parts. To increase the accuracy less than 1% would increase the cost by a factor of 10."

    Another image showing some more numbers. 

    (http://image.slidesharecdn.com/tolerances-design1160/95/tolerances-design-6-728.jpg?cb=1271395241)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 21 December 2015, 19:48:35
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 21 December 2015, 11:15:46
    Quote from: cryptokey on Mon, 21 December 2015, 10:55:37
    I'm on my phone and trying to find threads for help in making a mould and casting a keycap but I'm not having much luck. Would anybody be able to send a link or two my way?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67898
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67744
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62696
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46284
    http://imgur.com/a/nPuMY

    These are the links I have saved when I eventually invest.

    Thanks for the links. I'll be looking at these as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Mon, 21 December 2015, 23:58:39
    Quote from: mason on Mon, 21 December 2015, 10:43:49
    Is there a way to switch \| and ~` on the HHKB? I've looked in Karabiner, but didn't find anything.

    i thought AutoHotKey could do that kind of stuff?
    (sorry if i'm wrong, never used it myself.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:16:58
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 21 December 2015, 23:58:39
    Quote from: mason on Mon, 21 December 2015, 10:43:49
    Is there a way to switch \| and ~` on the HHKB? I've looked in Karabiner, but didn't find anything.

    i thought AutoHotKey could do that kind of stuff?
    (sorry if i'm wrong, never used it myself.)

    Looks like that's windows only :\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:54:13
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:56:22
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:54:13
    Would it be possible to due some blank hhkb caps to match ctrl alts toxic?  Have a special artisan on the way

    To due? I don't think there's any caps that are out on the market to buy right now with that color but you could see if one of the many cap makers would make you a custom set. You could also try and find the Topre MX stems.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:36:58
    He meant dye yo

    answer is yea but you'll have some trouble color matching dyes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:38:33
    Quote from: Sifo on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:36:58
    He meant dye yo

    answer is yea but you'll have some trouble color matching dyes

    Ugh my autocorrect detector is off. Going off to the market to replace my faulty module.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 22 December 2015, 14:25:52
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:38:33
    Quote from: Sifo on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:36:58
    He meant dye yo

    answer is yea but you'll have some trouble color matching dyes

    Ugh my autocorrect detector is off. Going off to the market to replace my faulty module.

    Don't worry, I thought the same thing.  :-X

    And yeah it'll be almost impossible to get an exact color match, but you could probably get something you're happy with.  Not sure how well the neon-ish green/yellow would turn out though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 22 December 2015, 14:26:52
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:54:13
    Would it be possible to due some blank hhkb caps to match ctrl alts toxic?  Have a special artisan on the way

    If you find the right dye or can find a good mix of colors, I think you could. Likely need a high ratio of yellow to blue and then you'll get that toxic green!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:08:23
    I recieved a GMK purple modifier set today, and I can faintly see the "backspace" text on the key, but it is an icon only legend. Is this normal?

    here (http://imgur.com/a/TTbzX) is an album I made trying to show this the best I can. I also noticed the "Fn" key legend is a bit more grey than the rest of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:19:36
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:08:23
    I recieved a GMK purple modifier set today, and I can faintly see the "backspace" text on the key, but it is an icon only legend. Is this normal?

    here (http://imgur.com/a/TTbzX) is an album I made trying to show this the best I can. I also noticed the "Fn" key legend is a bit more grey than the rest of them.

    That cap is a mistake aka ****ed up. Get a replacement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:35:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:19:36
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:08:23
    I recieved a GMK purple modifier set today, and I can faintly see the "backspace" text on the key, but it is an icon only legend. Is this normal?

    here (http://imgur.com/a/TTbzX) is an album I made trying to show this the best I can. I also noticed the "Fn" key legend is a bit more grey than the rest of them.

    That cap is a mistake aka ****ed up. Get a replacement.
    Contacted vendor, can't get individual cap replaced, can only return set as a whole and buy again once re stocked (out of stock now). Kind of bummed since I really wanted the mods, but I do not want to have them with a defective / screwed up cap. Thanks for the quick answer CPTBadAss.

    Vendor is now letting me return the defective keys and I will receive new ones once they are in stock
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 23 December 2015, 06:28:21
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:35:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:19:36
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:08:23
    I recieved a GMK purple modifier set today, and I can faintly see the "backspace" text on the key, but it is an icon only legend. Is this normal?

    here (http://imgur.com/a/TTbzX) is an album I made trying to show this the best I can. I also noticed the "Fn" key legend is a bit more grey than the rest of them.

    That cap is a mistake aka ****ed up. Get a replacement.
    Contacted vendor, can't get individual cap replaced, can only return set as a whole and buy again once re stocked (out of stock now). Kind of bummed since I really wanted the mods, but I do not want to have them with a defective / screwed up cap. Thanks for the quick answer CPTBadAss.

    Vendor is now letting me return the defective keys and I will receive new ones once they are in stock

    Kinda tangential, but did someone re-run the Purple Mod set?  O.o
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 23 December 2015, 06:34:38
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 23 December 2015, 06:28:21
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:35:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:19:36
    Quote from: nickheller on Tue, 22 December 2015, 22:08:23
    I recieved a GMK purple modifier set today, and I can faintly see the "backspace" text on the key, but it is an icon only legend. Is this normal?

    here (http://imgur.com/a/TTbzX) is an album I made trying to show this the best I can. I also noticed the "Fn" key legend is a bit more grey than the rest of them.

    That cap is a mistake aka ****ed up. Get a replacement.
    Contacted vendor, can't get individual cap replaced, can only return set as a whole and buy again once re stocked (out of stock now). Kind of bummed since I really wanted the mods, but I do not want to have them with a defective / screwed up cap. Thanks for the quick answer CPTBadAss.

    Vendor is now letting me return the defective keys and I will receive new ones once they are in stock

    Kinda tangential, but did someone re-run the Purple Mod set?  O.o

    Feng was selling them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Wed, 23 December 2015, 06:52:28
    Quote from: mason on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:16:58
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 21 December 2015, 23:58:39
    Quote from: mason on Mon, 21 December 2015, 10:43:49
    Is there a way to switch \| and ~` on the HHKB? I've looked in Karabiner, but didn't find anything.

    i thought AutoHotKey could do that kind of stuff?
    (sorry if i'm wrong, never used it myself.)

    Looks like that's windows only :\

    KeyRemap4MacBook?
    i found this: http://matthewpalmer.net/blog/2014/01/19/remap-keyboard-keys-caps-lock-os-x-mavericks/

    sorry if it's nothing :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:03:28
    Nah, Karabiner is the stuff, it's just possible you have to write your own rule about that... Give me half an hour...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:11:08
    Yeah, go to Misc & Uninstall in Karabiner, click 'open private.xml', rightclick the file and open in textedit, and replace the contents with this. This will give you a new rule which you can toggle.

    Code: [Select]
    <?xml version="1.0"?>
    <root>
      <item>
        <name>Swap backslash and backtick</name>
        <identifier>private.swap_backslash_and_backtick</identifier>
        <autogen>__KeyToKey__ KeyCode::BACKQUOTE, KeyCode::BACKSLASH</autogen>
        <autogen>__KeyToKey__ KeyCode::BACKSLASH, KeyCode::BACKQUOTE</autogen>
      </item>
    </root>
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:30:49
    Can you render CAD files?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:48:10
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:30:49
    Can you render CAD files?
    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 08:05:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:48:10
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:30:49
    Can you render CAD files?
    Yes
    How?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 December 2015, 08:14:44
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 08:05:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:48:10
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 07:30:49
    Can you render CAD files?
    Yes
    How?
    Dunno you'll have to look it up. Depends on the program. You might have to import it into a rendering software or your cad package might have it built in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 23 December 2015, 13:49:04
    Hello, does anyone feel HHKB silenced modded keys as scratchy?
    I have on some keys, some keys producing a little friction at light pressure
    When you bottom-out, it tends to be absorbed
    It annoys me because i have an inconstant feeling on all keys
    Some keys dont have detectable frictions while others do
    Btw i m using landing pads
    I thought it was spring+dome alignment but i aligned several times and still have this scratchy feeling
    I also did inverting sliders into another housing

    https://vid.me/vIxP
    https://vid.me/MrPS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 23 December 2015, 17:48:26
    what cases even exist for 1800?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 23 December 2015, 17:59:46
    ask flynn :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:05:49
    Reasonable amount to pay for a one piece, anodized aluminium case? Trying to work out numbers but don't know how much people would pay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:08:32
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:05:49
    Reasonable amount to pay for a one piece, anodized aluminium case? Trying to work out numbers but don't know how much people would pay.

    Depends on the case. They've been seen as cheap as $60 for a simple one, but they can be much more expensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombimuncha on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:15:18
    Maybe this is a dumb question, or has been asked 1001 times before, but are fancy metal cases just for looks, or do they affect the feel of the keyboard in some way too?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:21:39
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:08:32
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:05:49
    Reasonable amount to pay for a one piece, anodized aluminium case? Trying to work out numbers but don't know how much people would pay.

    Depends on the case. They've been seen as cheap as $60 for a simple one, but they can be much more expensive.

    It depends on the numbers sold as far as I'm aware too - are there figures around for cases sold such as the Duck Eagle/Viper? What's the most expensive one that has been sold?


    Quote from: zombimuncha on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:15:18
    Maybe this is a dumb question, or has been asked 1001 times before, but are fancy metal cases just for looks, or do they affect the feel of the keyboard in some way too?

    More sturdy etc, but mainly looks for most.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 23 December 2015, 20:59:57
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:15:18
    Maybe this is a dumb question, or has been asked 1001 times before, but are fancy metal cases just for looks, or do they affect the feel of the keyboard in some way too?

    Feel, weight, resonance, looks can all affected to varying degrees.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 23 December 2015, 21:00:43
    I actually notice a difference when my keyboard is heavier. Makes typing on it feel more solid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 23 December 2015, 21:36:57
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Wed, 23 December 2015, 19:15:18
    Maybe this is a dumb question, or has been asked 1001 times before, but are fancy metal cases just for looks, or do they affect the feel of the keyboard in some way too?

    The case is just one part of a multifaceted system that affects typing feel and sound.  Other factors that affect both feel and sound are, dampening material between case and plate/pcb mounts, desk surface, size and mass of desk, anything between case and desk, case material, case construction details, PCB or not, thickness of PCB, material of plate, thickness of plate, springs, stems, lube, and even sound acoustics play a larger part than what a lot of people realize.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Thu, 24 December 2015, 06:24:03
    Anyone has the dimensions of the metal badge on top left corner of IBM Model F? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 24 December 2015, 21:03:19
    Quote from: ctm on Thu, 24 December 2015, 06:24:03
    Anyone has the dimensions of the metal badge on top left corner of IBM Model F? Thanks!



    @wcass might know
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 24 December 2015, 22:53:15
    Is there a quick and dirty way to tell which end of a 1n4148w resistor is which (besides the label). A large number of the ones I received from winkeyless appear to have had the labels melted off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Thu, 24 December 2015, 23:00:54
    Are all Topre switches the same?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 24 December 2015, 23:23:50
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 24 December 2015, 23:00:54
    Are all Topre switches the same?

    The weighting may be different between springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 25 December 2015, 01:02:37
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 24 December 2015, 23:23:50
    Quote from: Vozella on Thu, 24 December 2015, 23:00:54
    Are all Topre switches the same?

    The weighting may be different between springs.

    Domes, not springs.  Springs are the same.

    Also, HHKB is plastic plate and PCB, other Topre boards have a metal backplate that affects the feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Fri, 25 December 2015, 08:41:49
    Are Greetech switches worse than MX Cherry? How do they compare?

    Also, what's with the shark icons?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Roibhilin on Fri, 25 December 2015, 12:20:59
    I just got my HHKB and I really like it but is there a way to get caps lock to work on windows?? fn+tab isn't doing anything
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 12:31:49
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 25 December 2015, 08:41:49
    Are Greetech switches worse than MX Cherry? How do they compare?

    Also, what's with the shark icons?

    In my experience with both, the Greetechs stock certainly feel a bit nicer. But I have no idea about the quality of Greetech long-term
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Fri, 25 December 2015, 16:41:41
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 12:31:49
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 25 December 2015, 08:41:49
    Are Greetech switches worse than MX Cherry? How do they compare?

    Also, what's with the shark icons?

    In my experience with both, the Greetechs stock certainly feel a bit nicer. But I have no idea about the quality of Greetech long-term

    I didn't except them to be nicer. I thought they were cheaper alternatives.
    How did they feel nicer?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 17:15:39
    Are the GMK Dolch set from Originative Co. legit?

    MX Brown too soft, MX Clear too hard; what weight spring do I want?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:07:04
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 17:15:39
    Are the GMK Dolch set from Originative Co. legit?

    MX Brown too soft, MX Clear too hard; what weight spring do I want?

    The set is legit gmk yes

    65g
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:08:58
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:07:04
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 17:15:39
    Are the GMK Dolch set from Originative Co. legit?

    MX Brown too soft, MX Clear too hard; what weight spring do I want?

    The set is legit gmk yes

    65g

    Merci - do you know if the keypop JTK Debut sets are legit too?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:09:48
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:08:58
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:07:04
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 17:15:39
    Are the GMK Dolch set from Originative Co. legit?

    MX Brown too soft, MX Clear too hard; what weight spring do I want?

    The set is legit gmk yes

    65g

    Merci - do you know if the keypop JTK Debut sets are legit too?

    reputable site so I'm sure they are. I don't think I've heard of knockoffs of either of those sets
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:37:25
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:09:48
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:08:58
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:07:04
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 17:15:39
    Are the GMK Dolch set from Originative Co. legit?

    MX Brown too soft, MX Clear too hard; what weight spring do I want?

    The set is legit gmk yes

    65g

    Merci - do you know if the keypop JTK Debut sets are legit too?

    reputable site so I'm sure they are. I don't think I've heard of knockoffs of either of those sets

    If you are thinking about buying directly from Originative's web site, I wouldn't spend that money unless you can afford to throw it at a casino to never see it again.  As a site, they have a very shoddy reputation at best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:51:27
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:37:25
    More
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:09:48
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:08:58
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:07:04
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 17:15:39
    Are the GMK Dolch set from Originative Co. legit?

    MX Brown too soft, MX Clear too hard; what weight spring do I want?

    The set is legit gmk yes

    65g

    Merci - do you know if the keypop JTK Debut sets are legit too?

    reputable site so I'm sure they are. I don't think I've heard of knockoffs of either of those sets

    If you are thinking about buying directly from Originative's web site, I wouldn't spend that money unless you can afford to throw it at a casino to never see it again.  As a site, they have a very shoddy reputation at best.

    Is that because of the price or that they tend not to fulfill orders? Is there anywhere else that sells them new?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:54:01
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:51:27
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:37:25
    More
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:09:48
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:08:58
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:07:04
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 17:15:39
    Are the GMK Dolch set from Originative Co. legit?

    MX Brown too soft, MX Clear too hard; what weight spring do I want?

    The set is legit gmk yes

    65g

    Merci - do you know if the keypop JTK Debut sets are legit too?

    reputable site so I'm sure they are. I don't think I've heard of knockoffs of either of those sets

    If you are thinking about buying directly from Originative's web site, I wouldn't spend that money unless you can afford to throw it at a casino to never see it again.  As a site, they have a very shoddy reputation at best.

    Is that because of the price or that they tend not to fulfill orders? Is there anywhere else that sells them new?
    The former
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 25 December 2015, 19:08:39

    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:51:27
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:37:25
    More
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:09:48
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:08:58
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:07:04
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 17:15:39
    Are the GMK Dolch set from Originative Co. legit?

    MX Brown too soft, MX Clear too hard; what weight spring do I want?

    The set is legit gmk yes

    65g

    Merci - do you know if the keypop JTK Debut sets are legit too?

    reputable site so I'm sure they are. I don't think I've heard of knockoffs of either of those sets

    If you are thinking about buying directly from Originative's web site, I wouldn't spend that money unless you can afford to throw it at a casino to never see it again.  As a site, they have a very shoddy reputation at best.

    Is that because of the price or that they tend not to fulfill orders? Is there anywhere else that sells them new?

    They have a long history of not fulfilling, but recently some people have had good experiences. Most of us who have been around here a long time don't feel it's worth the risk, but to each his own.

    I will say that I emailed them a couple of months ago and they were very helpful. But a bad reputation is a hard thing to overcome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 19:17:35
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raymogi on Fri, 25 December 2015, 20:13:03
    Do I need to do any kind of drilling if I were to put Novatouch stems on my FC660C? Is it just a simple swap?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 26 December 2015, 01:48:53
    Is the USB port for a 60% board always in the same exact place?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 26 December 2015, 02:31:02
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 26 December 2015, 01:48:53
    Is the USB port for a 60% board always in the same exact place?
    No, it depends on the board. Many might be common but they won't all be the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 26 December 2015, 12:29:35
    What are diodes and resistors used for in a PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sat, 26 December 2015, 14:17:59
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 26 December 2015, 12:29:35
    What are diodes and resistors used for in a PCB?

    These are really basic descriptions: Diodes are used for the matrix to avoid conflicts when multiple keys are pressed and to by-pass the need for blocking to be programmed into the controller. They needed to be soldered for a key to work, otherwise a connection won't be made. It acts as a one-way jumper.

    Resistors are used to lower the current and voltage of the circuit so it doesn't burn out the LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Sat, 26 December 2015, 19:31:43
    Quote from: raymogi on Fri, 25 December 2015, 20:13:03
    Do I need to do any kind of drilling if I were to put Novatouch stems on my FC660C? Is it just a simple swap?

    No drilling is required. You can swap everything including the stabilizer housings.

    However, you're pretty much stuck using Topre spacebars after it's all said and done. The FC uses a 6u space bar with a centered stem, while Cherry 6u spacebars are off-centered.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 26 December 2015, 20:02:17
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:08:58
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:07:04
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 25 December 2015, 17:15:39
    Are the GMK Dolch set from Originative Co. legit?

    MX Brown too soft, MX Clear too hard; what weight spring do I want?

    The set is legit gmk yes

    65g

    Merci - do you know if the keypop JTK Debut sets are legit too?

    Like hwood said, they are legit, but I believe bunny will sell you some if you PM him, and they'd be cheaper from him I believe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: raymogi on Sat, 26 December 2015, 21:17:52

    Quote from: Solo on Sat, 26 December 2015, 19:31:43
    Quote from: raymogi on Fri, 25 December 2015, 20:13:03
    Do I need to do any kind of drilling if I were to put Novatouch stems on my FC660C? Is it just a simple swap?

    No drilling is required. You can swap everything including the stabilizer housings.

    However, you're pretty much stuck using Topre spacebars after it's all said and done. The FC uses a 6u space bar with a centered stem, while Cherry 6u spacebars are off-centered.

    Oh yea almost forgot about spacebar. Well that means I'm stuck with either black or white sets.

    Thanks for the answer :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 27 December 2015, 04:12:14
    I'm looking for cherry keyboards that uses mx compatible mounts. To scavenge keycaps.

    Surely cherry my switches are compatible, at least for the non stabilized keycaps.
    What kind of mount do the non mx my cherry keyboards use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 27 December 2015, 08:20:23
    Quote from: Giorgio on Sun, 27 December 2015, 04:12:14
    I'm looking for cherry keyboards that uses mx compatible mounts. To scavenge keycaps.

    Surely cherry my switches are compatible, at least for the non stabilized keycaps.
    What kind of mount do the non mx my cherry keyboards use?

    AFAIK, only Cherry MY can be used with MX (MX isn't even MY compatible).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:15:58
    Quote from: Giorgio on Sun, 27 December 2015, 04:12:14
    I'm looking for cherry keyboards that uses mx compatible mounts. To scavenge keycaps.

    Surely cherry my switches are compatible, at least for the non stabilized keycaps.
    What kind of mount do the non mx my cherry keyboards use?

    The full sets are compatible. IIRC most MY boards use something like a costar stab
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:28:36
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.

    The best bet is to trade for MX or try to get a hold of a Novatouch and some Topre sliders.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:35:18
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.
    Sounds like you need some Topre keychains. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:37:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:35:18
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.
    Sounds like you need some Topre keychains. ;)

    Those are expensive from what I've seen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:41:54
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:37:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:35:18
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.
    Sounds like you need some Topre keychains. ;)

    Those are expensive from what I've seen.
    That all depends really. I need to quit being lazy and make some.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:44:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:41:54
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:37:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:35:18
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.
    Sounds like you need some Topre keychains. ;)

    Those are expensive from what I've seen.
    That all depends really. I need to quit being lazy and make some.

    Yeah I guess the ones I've seen are just expensive. I'd be up to buy a 45g one for a reasonable price.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:58:23
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:44:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:41:54
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:37:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:35:18
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.
    Sounds like you need some Topre keychains. ;)

    Those are expensive from what I've seen.
    That all depends really. I need to quit being lazy and make some.

    Yeah I guess the ones I've seen are just expensive. I'd be up to buy a 45g one for a reasonable price.

    If these (http://www.ebay.com/itm/55g-Topre-Realforce-Switch-Tester-KEYCHAIN-Keyboard-Key-/272082587370?hash=item3f5962ceea:g:qiUAAOSwNyFWdjjG) came with those assorted color Realforce caps, I probably would have purchased one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 14:05:55
    Quote from: Solo on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:58:23
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:44:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:41:54
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:37:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:35:18
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.
    Sounds like you need some Topre keychains. ;)

    Those are expensive from what I've seen.
    That all depends really. I need to quit being lazy and make some.

    Yeah I guess the ones I've seen are just expensive. I'd be up to buy a 45g one for a reasonable price.

    If these (http://www.ebay.com/itm/55g-Topre-Realforce-Switch-Tester-KEYCHAIN-Keyboard-Key-/272082587370?hash=item3f5962ceea:g:qiUAAOSwNyFWdjjG) came with those assorted color Realforce caps, I probably would have purchased one.
    Had no idea those were available. Thanks for the link.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 14:13:03
    Quote from: Solo on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:58:23
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:44:32
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:41:54
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:37:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:35:18
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.
    Sounds like you need some Topre keychains. ;)

    Those are expensive from what I've seen.
    That all depends really. I need to quit being lazy and make some.

    Yeah I guess the ones I've seen are just expensive. I'd be up to buy a 45g one for a reasonable price.

    If these (http://www.ebay.com/itm/55g-Topre-Realforce-Switch-Tester-KEYCHAIN-Keyboard-Key-/272082587370?hash=item3f5962ceea:g:qiUAAOSwNyFWdjjG) came with those assorted color Realforce caps, I probably would have purchased one.

    I must have missed these when I last checked his page. Thanks for the link!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:53:41
    Can you put Topre keycaps on a Novatouch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 28 December 2015, 13:06:37
    Quote from: piemancoder on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:53:41
    Can you put Topre keycaps on a Novatouch?

    Nope. The insert is completely different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Mon, 28 December 2015, 13:08:04
    Quote from: piemancoder on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:53:41
    Can you put Topre keycaps on a Novatouch?

    To use Topre keycaps on a Novatouch, you would need to replace the Novatouch's MX-compatible sliders with original Topre sliders.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Mon, 28 December 2015, 14:14:50
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 28 December 2015, 13:06:37
    Quote from: piemancoder on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:53:41
    Can you put Topre keycaps on a Novatouch?

    Nope. The insert is completely different.

    No fancy topre artisans then  :(

    Quote from: Solo on Mon, 28 December 2015, 13:08:04
    Quote from: piemancoder on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:53:41
    Can you put Topre keycaps on a Novatouch?

    To use Topre keycaps on a Novatouch, you would need to replace the Novatouch's MX-compatible sliders with original Topre sliders.

    I'm guessing that you would have to get those from another Topre board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Mon, 28 December 2015, 14:24:45
    Quote from: piemancoder on Mon, 28 December 2015, 14:14:50
    Quote from: Solo on Mon, 28 December 2015, 13:08:04
    Quote from: piemancoder on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:53:41
    Can you put Topre keycaps on a Novatouch?

    To use Topre keycaps on a Novatouch, you would need to replace the Novatouch's MX-compatible sliders with original Topre sliders.

    I'm guessing that you would have to get those from another Topre board?

    You would have to harvest them from another Topre board. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 28 December 2015, 15:05:15
    And that would defeat the purpose of a Novatouch too.  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 28 December 2015, 16:31:06
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Mon, 28 December 2015, 15:05:15
    And that would defeat the purpose of a Novatouch too.  :p

    lol yeah that's going the opposite direction.  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 29 December 2015, 08:13:39
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Mon, 28 December 2015, 15:05:15
    And that would defeat the purpose of a Novatouch too.  :p


    Counterproductive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr1me on Tue, 29 December 2015, 11:33:52
    I'm looking to put my novatouch stems into an FC660C.

    I assume i have to do that with the stabilizers as well

    Is there anything specific i need to know before doing that mod?
    I already silenced my novaotuch with landing pads, so i know how it is inside.
    I don't have the 660c in yet, so i don't know how the novatouch stabilizer will fit yet.

    Also, will those 6x spacebar available on maxkeyboard fit?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Tue, 29 December 2015, 11:52:10
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:28:36
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.

    The best bet is to trade for MX or try to get a hold of a Novatouch and some Topre sliders.

    Thanks. Some artisans are hard to find in MX but I might try to get a μtron. If someone came out with a split Topre board for under $400 I'd snap that **** up.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:35:18
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:03:55
    I have Topre artisans but no Topre board.

    Is there a converter/slider that will allow Topre caps to fit on MX switches?

    I know, of course, that the reverse is possible.
    Sounds like you need some Topre keychains. ;)

    Might actually buy this. If you make some I'll def buy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 29 December 2015, 12:25:54
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Tue, 29 December 2015, 11:52:10

    Thanks. Some artisans are hard to find in MX but I might try to get a μtron. If someone came out with a split Topre board for under $400 I'd snap that **** up.



    There are some Epson split Topre on Yahoo Japan auctions going for about $100 right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 29 December 2015, 12:27:05
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 29 December 2015, 13:11:11
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 29 December 2015, 12:27:05

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 29 December 2015, 12:25:54
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Tue, 29 December 2015, 11:52:10

    Thanks. Some artisans are hard to find in MX but I might try to get a μtron. If someone came out with a split Topre board for under $400 I'd snap that **** up.



    There are some Epson split Topre on Yahoo Japan auctions going for about $100 right now.

    Price will go up

    Might stay under the $400 limit though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 29 December 2015, 13:12:03
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Tue, 29 December 2015, 13:52:22
    Quote from: pr1me on Tue, 29 December 2015, 11:33:52
    I'm looking to put my novatouch stems into an FC660C.

    I assume i have to do that with the stabilizers as well

    Is there anything specific i need to know before doing that mod?
    I already silenced my novaotuch with landing pads, so i know how it is inside.
    I don't have the 660c in yet, so i don't know how the novatouch stabilizer will fit yet.

    Also, will those 6x spacebar available on maxkeyboard fit?

    Thanks

    You can transplant the Novatouch's components (sliders/stabilizer housings) directly into the FC660C. You don't have to drill/file anything like you would if you were trying to do the same thing on an HHKB.

    As far as the spacebar goes, and as far as I'm aware, 6u Cherry spacebars with centered stems don't exist. The FC660C uses a spacebar with a centered stem, so you'll be stuck either using the stock spacebar, or one from another Topre board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Tue, 29 December 2015, 14:11:37
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 29 December 2015, 12:25:54
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Tue, 29 December 2015, 11:52:10

    Thanks. Some artisans are hard to find in MX but I might try to get a μtron. If someone came out with a split Topre board for under $400 I'd snap that **** up.



    There are some Epson split Topre on Yahoo Japan auctions going for about $100 right now.

    You mean this?

    http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f167947011

    Looks cool but I need a board that's split down the middle (i.e. the alphas are divided in two).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 29 December 2015, 14:18:39
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Tue, 29 December 2015, 16:17:00
    Is there a way to lock the fn key on an hhkb? i.e. press fn once then you can use arrow keys and press fn again once you're done
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 29 December 2015, 16:39:27
    Where can I get keyboard opinions in mass from? Need to ask questions such as tilt, piece count etc...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 December 2015, 16:47:05
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 29 December 2015, 16:39:27
    Where can I get keyboard opinions in mass from? Need to ask questions such as tilt, piece count etc...

    A poll in your own thread in the appropriate forum here would work decently well. Or a survey that you could try to peddle over on reddit as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 29 December 2015, 16:48:12
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 December 2015, 16:47:05
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 29 December 2015, 16:39:27
    Where can I get keyboard opinions in mass from? Need to ask questions such as tilt, piece count etc...

    A poll in your own thread in the appropriate forum here would work decently well. Or a survey that you could try to peddle over on reddit as well.

    Cheers, is Google forms is a good platform for this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 December 2015, 17:12:28
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 29 December 2015, 16:48:12
    Cheers, is Google forms is a good platform for this?

    It's the one I see most I think, though I've never used it personally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr1me on Tue, 29 December 2015, 20:26:00
    Quote from: Solo on Tue, 29 December 2015, 13:52:22
    Quote from: pr1me on Tue, 29 December 2015, 11:33:52
    I'm looking to put my novatouch stems into an FC660C.

    I assume i have to do that with the stabilizers as well

    Is there anything specific i need to know before doing that mod?
    I already silenced my novaotuch with landing pads, so i know how it is inside.
    I don't have the 660c in yet, so i don't know how the novatouch stabilizer will fit yet.

    Also, will those 6x spacebar available on maxkeyboard fit?

    Thanks

    You can transplant the Novatouch's components (sliders/stabilizer housings) directly into the FC660C. You don't have to drill/file anything like you would if you were trying to do the same thing on an HHKB.

    As far as the spacebar goes, and as far as I'm aware, 6u Cherry spacebars with centered stems don't exist. The FC660C uses a spacebar with a centered stem, so you'll be stuck either using the stock spacebar, or one from another Topre board.

    Thanks  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sus on Wed, 30 December 2015, 10:53:28
    Hey,

    What's the standard pok3r resistors rated at? I know that the PCB has presoldered resistors for bright LED's, so are the individual resistors 470 ohm?

    I'll check that with a multimeter when my kb arrives if noone has first-hand experience ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 14:41:21
    What options do I need on the winkeyless 60% board to have it work when I solder my own switches in?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:04:26
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 14:41:21
    What options do I need on the winkeyless 60% board to have it work when I solder my own switches in?

    Depends on whether you want to have lighting or not but if it's just switches you need to have diodes and controller parts soldered
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:07:04
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:04:26
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 14:41:21
    What options do I need on the winkeyless 60% board to have it work when I solder my own switches in?

    Depends on whether you want to have lighting or not but if it's just switches you need to have diodes and controller parts soldered

    So this?

    (http://i.imgur.com/XTPJEqP.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:08:22
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:07:04
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:04:26
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 14:41:21
    What options do I need on the winkeyless 60% board to have it work when I solder my own switches in?

    Depends on whether you want to have lighting or not but if it's just switches you need to have diodes and controller parts soldered

    So this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/XTPJEqP.png)


    Oh and stabilisers if you don't have them yourself
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:32:01
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:08:22
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:07:04
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:04:26
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 14:41:21
    What options do I need on the winkeyless 60% board to have it work when I solder my own switches in?

    Depends on whether you want to have lighting or not but if it's just switches you need to have diodes and controller parts soldered

    So this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/XTPJEqP.png)


    Oh and stabilisers if you don't have them yourself

    Cheers, are the resistors for LEDs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:36:42
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:32:01
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:08:22
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:07:04
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:04:26
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 14:41:21
    What options do I need on the winkeyless 60% board to have it work when I solder my own switches in?

    Depends on whether you want to have lighting or not but if it's just switches you need to have diodes and controller parts soldered

    So this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/XTPJEqP.png)


    Oh and stabilisers if you don't have them yourself

    Cheers, are the resistors for LEDs?

    Exactly  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Wed, 30 December 2015, 20:37:00
    How do people make the drawings for interest checks to show the colors and layouts, and how do they draw the novelties?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Thu, 31 December 2015, 16:53:50
    Easy way to repair a stretched out coiled cable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 31 December 2015, 17:04:50
    Quote from: mason on Thu, 31 December 2015, 16:53:50
    Easy way to repair a stretched out coiled cable?

    I have had moderate success by wrapping it tightly around a wooden dowel and letting it relax for a while. If possible, lay it out in the sun on a railing or something and let it cycle through hot and cold a few times.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trustinkiss on Fri, 01 January 2016, 04:25:33
    Anybody know if the Duck Octagon case will fit any 75% layout PCB? For example, a Keycool 84 PCB fitting into an Octagon case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Fri, 01 January 2016, 07:18:40
    Can you tell me please what's the difference in meaning between the terms "sampling, scanning, probing" in respect to a keyboard's matrix?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Fri, 01 January 2016, 22:45:11
    Where can I learn more about LED changers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Akamig on Sat, 02 January 2016, 08:10:09
    Um... I found the deal selling industrial Model M (1394946).
    It's about 105000 Won (100$), and I'm really considering bite this or not.

    If I bite this, my whole custom TKL project will canceled. but got nice full-fatty-sized keyboard without super key, but look! dat gray color is fabulous!
    but not bite this, at least I can wait untill TEX release new Aluminum TKL Cases. but Model M will gone forever, mayby.

    what you gonna do if you were me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 02 January 2016, 09:42:01
    Quote from: Akamig on Sat, 02 January 2016, 08:10:09
    Um... I found the deal selling industrial Model M (1394946).
    It's about 105000 Won (100$), and I'm really considering bite this or not.

    If I bite this, my whole custom TKL project will canceled. but got nice full-fatty-sized keyboard without super key, but look! dat gray color is fabulous!
    but not bite this, at least I can wait untill TEX release new Aluminum TKL Cases. but Model M will gone forever, mayby.

    what you gonna do if you were me?

    You should be able to re-sell the industrial for a profit, if it is complete, undamaged, and working properly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Akamig on Sat, 02 January 2016, 10:17:54
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 02 January 2016, 09:42:01
    Quote from: Akamig on Sat, 02 January 2016, 08:10:09
    Um... I found the deal selling industrial Model M (1394946).
    It's about 105000 Won (100$), and I'm really considering bite this or not.

    If I bite this, my whole custom TKL project will canceled. but got nice full-fatty-sized keyboard without super key, but look! dat gray color is fabulous!
    but not bite this, at least I can wait untill TEX release new Aluminum TKL Cases. but Model M will gone forever, mayby.

    what you gonna do if you were me?

    You should be able to re-sell the industrial for a profit, if it is complete, undamaged, and working properly.

    yeah... I heard that gray one is expensiver than normal Model M
    but is it that much?
    I think shipping fee would be around 30$, so it must worth at least 130$ or moar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 02 January 2016, 16:06:21
    Quote from: Vozella on Fri, 01 January 2016, 22:45:11
    Where can I learn more about LED changers?

    Do you mean SIP sockets? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0



    MY Q: How do you take apart the WASD V2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Sat, 02 January 2016, 20:11:11
    Hopefully a similar question for those who have had both sets of these keycaps:

    Do the Cherry lasered PBT really *feel* similar to OG dyesubs? I know the looks are awful, curious about feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 02 January 2016, 20:31:25
    I know this question has probably been asked a thousand times but is there a substance that will dissolve ink from keycaps but not ABS/PBT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 02 January 2016, 20:34:12
    Quote from: jerue on Sat, 02 January 2016, 20:11:11
    Hopefully a similar question for those who have had both sets of these keycaps:

    Do the Cherry lasered PBT really *feel* similar to OG dyesubs? I know the looks are awful, curious about feel.

    To me they don't feel as silky smooth as dyesubs do, but I could also just be imagining that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 03 January 2016, 03:25:00
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 02 January 2016, 20:31:25
    I know this question has probably been asked a thousand times but is there a substance that will dissolve ink from keycaps but not ABS/PBT?

    A couple of threads with some ideas:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51958.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59676.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 03 January 2016, 09:23:21
    Should I have any concerns putting dampening material between the PCB and plate of an MX or Alps keyboard? Only thing that really came to mind (aside from getting it in there) was heat dissipation from the components, am I just naive? Just a bunch of resistors on there for the most part, it's a single-layer PCB with the traces on the other side.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 09:45:55
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Sun, 03 January 2016, 09:23:21
    Should I have any concerns putting dampening material between the PCB and plate of an MX or Alps keyboard? Only thing that really came to mind (aside from getting it in there) was heat dissipation from the components, am I just naive? Just a bunch of resistors on there for the most part, it's a single-layer PCB with the traces on the other side.

    I haven't ever heard of anyone having those sorts of problems using shelf-liner or something similar. You should be fine :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:17:24
    Bottom out forces of all MX switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:50:21
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:17:24
    Bottom out forces of all MX switches?

    Should be somewhere in this ballpark:

    blue/red/brown: 60cN
    black/green: 75cN
    clear: 80cN

    (haven't measured, these are educated guesses)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:04:24
    does anyone have pics of the final lynn hangul cap sets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:07:01
    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:50:21
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:17:24
    Bottom out forces of all MX switches?

    Should be somewhere in this ballpark:

    blue/red/brown: 60cN
    black/green: 75cN
    clear: 80cN

    (haven't measured, these are educated guesses)

    **** I bought some 62g springs thinking they'd be a bit harder than browns... fml I need 67g I guess, brown waaaaay too light and clears are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too heavy. :mad:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:09:20
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:07:01
    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:50:21
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:17:24
    Bottom out forces of all MX switches?

    Should be somewhere in this ballpark:

    blue/red/brown: 60cN
    black/green: 75cN
    clear: 80cN

    (haven't measured, these are educated guesses)

    **** I bought some 62g springs thinking they'd be a bit harder than browns... fml I need 67g I guess, brown waaaaay too light and clears are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too heavy. :mad:

    But with clears you don't have to bottom out, so they aren't that heavy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:12:23
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:09:20
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:07:01
    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:50:21
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:17:24
    Bottom out forces of all MX switches?

    Should be somewhere in this ballpark:

    blue/red/brown: 60cN
    black/green: 75cN
    clear: 80cN

    (haven't measured, these are educated guesses)

    **** I bought some 62g springs thinking they'd be a bit harder than browns... fml I need 67g I guess, brown waaaaay too light and clears are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too heavy. :mad:

    But with clears you don't have to bottom out, so they aren't that heavy.

    Yeah, still getting used to that but I like to travel a bit after the actuation on each key press. Looking at graphs it makes me think 67g might be my jam.

    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/0/03/CherryMXClearBrownForceTravel.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 18:50:42
    Actuation of browns is 45cN and Clears are around 90cN at bottom out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 03 January 2016, 18:52:17
    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:50:21
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:17:24
    Bottom out forces of all MX switches?

    Should be somewhere in this ballpark:

    blue/red/brown: 60cN
    black/green: 75cN
    clear: 80cN

    (haven't measured, these are educated guesses)
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:09:01
    Can someone explain the shark avatars to me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:27:13
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:09:01
    Can someone explain the shark avatars to me?

    Read the Church of Halverson thread

    gimme a moment and I'll find the specific thing

    edit: I think he ran something in the keycap subforum, not sure. but ok (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42336.msg1975463#msg1975463)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:43:20
    Quote from: jerue on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:27:13
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:09:01
    Can someone explain the shark avatars to me?

    Read the Church of Halverson thread

    gimme a moment and I'll find the specific thing

    edit: I think he ran something in the keycap subforum, not sure. but ok (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42336.msg1975463#msg1975463)

    This was also a reason: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77964.0;topicseen
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:48:56
    Quote from: piemancoder on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:43:20

    This was also a reason: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77964.0;topicseen

    That was the thread I was looking for, thanks for that  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Sun, 03 January 2016, 23:52:12
    Where were the FMJ Aluminum Poker cases manufactured?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: n__dles on Mon, 04 January 2016, 06:35:30
    What size screws does a Poker II case use? I tried M2 6mm, and it's too long.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Mon, 04 January 2016, 06:36:08
    Quote from: n__dles on Mon, 04 January 2016, 06:35:30
    What size screws does a Poker II case use? I tried M2 6mm, and it's too long.

    IIRC Pokers use 4mm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 04 January 2016, 06:52:39
    I've used 10 no problem on pok3r, but never tried 2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:24:26
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 04 January 2016, 06:36:08
    Quote from: n__dles on Mon, 04 January 2016, 06:35:30
    What size screws does a Poker II case use? I tried M2 6mm, and it's too long.

    IIRC Pokers use 4mm.

    yup

    these are the ones you need: http://www.mcmaster.com/#92000a011/=10jdcxb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:14:29
    I know, it's a shame but, I use a mac and I like it ^^'
    Anyway, I know I could use any windows keyboard and remap the keys to get it working, but I would like to know if there were some "native" mechanical keyboard for macs :)


    thanks a lot!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:50:36
    Quote from: jerue on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:48:56
    Quote from: piemancoder on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:43:20

    This was also a reason: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77964.0;topicseen

    That was the thread I was looking for, thanks for that  :thumb:

    No problem  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 04 January 2016, 19:53:49
    Quote from: eNrageDSainT on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:14:29
    I know, it's a shame but, I use a mac and I like it ^^'
    Anyway, I know I could use any windows keyboard and remap the keys to get it working, but I would like to know if there were some "native" mechanical keyboard for macs :)


    thanks a lot!

    Matias and Razer sell modern Mac compatibles and you can use any Apple mechanical with a converter like the iMate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Mon, 04 January 2016, 20:43:32
    Quote from: eNrageDSainT on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:14:29
    I know, it's a shame but, I use a mac and I like it ^^'
    Anyway, I know I could use any windows keyboard and remap the keys to get it working, but I would like to know if there were some "native" mechanical keyboard for macs :)


    thanks a lot!

    Das makes some Mac compatible keyboards. Or, you could build a custom  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Tue, 05 January 2016, 05:46:34
    A couple of quick questions about MX clones:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 05 January 2016, 06:26:16
    Quote from: davkol on Tue, 05 January 2016, 05:46:34
    Is there any incentive to get Gaote, Greetech or other clone switches instead of Gateron? (I'm looking for smooth non-clicky switches, tactile or linear. Higher actuation point would be nice.)
    Nope

    Quote from: davkol on Tue, 05 January 2016, 05:46:34
    Are Zealio switches higher quality, or just custom weight (or stem)? (I don't care about backlight.)
    Just custom spring and totally trans housing

    Quote from: davkol on Tue, 05 January 2016, 05:46:34
    Are there any active group buys for these switches? If not, any idea, when gaterons will be back on Massdrop? I'm looking for options, that are cheaper than 120 gaterons for £33 shipped from Amazon.co.uk. MechanicalKeyboards.com have gaterons for $0.3/switch, but I'd have to find a shipping proxy to avoid their default $85 option.
    No active GBs and I'm not sure if they'll be back on Massdrop since they've already run it probably 15 times.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 05 January 2016, 06:40:03
    How do I assemble these? Video preferable. Treat me like I'm 5.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Tue, 05 January 2016, 11:19:16
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 05 January 2016, 06:40:03
    How do I assemble these? Video preferable. Treat me like I'm 5.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Tue, 05 January 2016, 11:23:42
    Quote from: eNrageDSainT on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:14:29
    I know, it's a shame but, I use a mac and I like it ^^'
    Anyway, I know I could use any windows keyboard and remap the keys to get it working, but I would like to know if there were some "native" mechanical keyboard for macs :)


    thanks a lot!

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63028.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mashby on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:15:50
    Quote from: eNrageDSainT on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:14:29
    I know, it's a shame but, I use a mac and I like it ^^'
    Anyway, I know I could use any windows keyboard and remap the keys to get it working, but I would like to know if there were some "native" mechanical keyboard for macs :)


    thanks a lot!

    As a Mac user, I haven't had any problems using any modern keyboard.

    The only change I make is in System Preferences\Keyboards\Modifier Keys to swap the Option Key with the Command Key to match the Mac layout. Physically swap those two keys on the keyboard and I'm good to go.

    The only part that kinda sucks is that you'll have a "Windows" key on your keyboard, but that's what custom key cap sets are for.  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 05 January 2016, 14:14:11
    If you connect to a laptop you'll be without a proper fn-key for the native mac mediakeys and stuff as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mashby on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:48:45
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 05 January 2016, 14:14:11
    If you connect to a laptop you'll be without a proper fn-key for the native mac mediakeys and stuff as well.

    Good point. I forgot about that.

    If you use the Function Row AND the media keys, then you'll need to use a specific keyboard. Personally, I don't use the function row, so I set the function row to be the media keys by default.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Connly33 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 00:54:31
    I was wondering a couple things about Cherry stabilizers. I got some PCB mount Cherry stabs for my new build and i'm going to lube them when i put it together.

    But i have seen a few people clip the feet from the bottom of the stabs that hit the PCB when they bottom out so that the switch bottoms out instead.
     But i looks like those tabs are what keeps the stem from being pulled out of the stabilizer when you remove a keycap.

    I was wondering if anyone has experience clipping them and if the stem being pulled out is an issue. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 06 January 2016, 00:56:03
    Quote from: Connly33 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 00:54:31
    I was wondering a couple things about Cherry stabilizers. I got some PCB mount Cherry stabs for my new build and i'm going to lube them when i put it together.

    But i have seen a few people clip the feet from the bottom of the stabs that hit the PCB when they bottom out so that the switch bottoms out instead.
     But i looks like those tabs are what keeps the stem from being pulled out of the stabilizer when you remove a keycap.

    I was wondering if anyone has experience clipping them and if the stem being pulled out is an issue.

    Not an issue clip away.  For the record, there have been cherry stabs that didn't have those feet from the factory.  Both pcb and plate mount can be clipped with no adverse effects.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Connly33 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 01:20:43
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 06 January 2016, 00:56:03
    Quote from: Connly33 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 00:54:31
    I was wondering a couple things about Cherry stabilizers. I got some PCB mount Cherry stabs for my new build and i'm going to lube them when i put it together.

    But i have seen a few people clip the feet from the bottom of the stabs that hit the PCB when they bottom out so that the switch bottoms out instead.
     But i looks like those tabs are what keeps the stem from being pulled out of the stabilizer when you remove a keycap.

    I was wondering if anyone has experience clipping them and if the stem being pulled out is an issue.

    Not an issue clip away.  For the record, there have been cherry stabs that didn't have those feet from the factory.  Both pcb and plate mount can be clipped with no adverse effects.

    Thank's :p. Definitely going to clip them then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 03:19:35
    I only have one set of stabs, why should I clip them? I know it's preference but I'd rather know the advantages and disadvantages
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 06 January 2016, 04:35:23
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 03:19:35
    I only have one set of stabs, why should I clip them? I know it's preference but I'd rather know the advantages and disadvantages

    Cherry stabs tend to feel mushy due to those extra small legs pairs, if you clip them the feeling of the stabilized keys will be more close to non stabilized keys. That is the advantage, and the mod does not have any disadvantage known; however, if you are not aware of that feeling it may not worth for you to make the mod. In my experience that was the only thing that prevented me to enjoy my first non ALPS board, some years ago, as you know, an ALPS keyboard comes with Costar stabilizers that are designed with smaller gauge wire and with inserts that go directly into the keycaps, that design makes the stabilized caps as if they were normal keys, that is a great feeling, all the keyboard feels the same with no mushy keys, you will get a similar final effect with clipped Cherry stabilizers. It is up to you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Wed, 06 January 2016, 06:22:37
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 05 January 2016, 06:26:16
    …
    Oh, well… thanks.

    Gaterons were on Massdrop 2-3 months ago ($26 for 120 switches) or last month (some special version), so it might be possible to save a little bit. I just have to decide, if I hate Amazon, or Massdrop less.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 09:42:13
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 06 January 2016, 06:22:37
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 05 January 2016, 06:26:16
    …
    Oh, well… thanks.

    Gaterons were on Massdrop 2-3 months ago ($26 for 120 switches) or last month (some special version), so it might be possible to save a little bit. I just have to decide, if I hate Amazon, or Massdrop less.

    Actually, looking at the Massdrop page for the switches, 277 people have requested a drop again, so they could very well do another run soon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Wed, 06 January 2016, 10:36:27
    If I want silenced Realforces (the ones with purple sliders), am I just looking for boards with the -S affixed at the end? Like 91UKB-S, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Wed, 06 January 2016, 10:48:13
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 06 January 2016, 10:36:27
    If I want silenced Realforces (the ones with purple sliders), am I just looking for boards with the -S affixed at the end? Like 91UKB-S, etc.

    for the most part.

    I believe the only American board that was silenced was the anniversary board.

    The rest I found where Japanese boards.

    I ended up buying a cheap used one from amazon.jp and had evo_spec proxy it for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Wed, 06 January 2016, 11:00:31
    Quote from: Bromono on Wed, 06 January 2016, 10:48:13
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 06 January 2016, 10:36:27
    If I want silenced Realforces (the ones with purple sliders), am I just looking for boards with the -S affixed at the end? Like 91UKB-S, etc.

    for the most part.

    I believe the only American board that was silenced was the anniversary board.

    The rest I found where Japanese boards.

    I ended up buying a cheap used one from amazon.jp and had evo_spec proxy it for me.

    Gotcha. Thanks! I would mostly just harvest the sliders and replace them with stock sliders so I don't think JIS is too much of an issue. I want to join the purple slider club someday :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 06 January 2016, 13:24:32
    Anyone has a picture of HHKB PCB in real size?
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 06 January 2016, 13:29:14
    Pictures on the internet don't have "real size". They scale according to your monitor, the resolution you use and the application you view it with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 15:53:07
    What thickness should each piece be if I am making a sandwich style case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Wed, 06 January 2016, 16:00:35
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 06 January 2016, 11:00:31
    Gotcha. Thanks! I would mostly just harvest the sliders and replace them with stock sliders so I don't think JIS is too much of an issue. I want to join the purple slider club someday :))

    There's a 91UBK-S on eBay right now if you don't mind spending 280 bones lol.

    Link (http://m.ebay.com/itm/281902512631)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:02:28
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 15:53:07
    What thickness should each piece be if I am making a sandwich style case?

    They can be as thin or as thick as you like!

    The only true restrictions are:
    1) If you want the plate to be one of the sandwich layers, that layer needs to be proper plate thickness (1/16", iirc)
    2) The total room inside the case needs to be enough for what you want to put inside it (obviously).

    A basic sandwich case only has three layers -- one for the plate, one for a "spacer" layer of whatever thickness you want (within reason), and one for a bottom layer. You can split up your spacer layer into multiple thinner layers for the same overall thickness, or you can add multiple spacer layers to make a thick keyboard. You can also add a layer or layers above the plate, forming a raised bezel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:07:47
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:02:28
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 15:53:07
    What thickness should each piece be if I am making a sandwich style case?

    They can be as thin or as thick as you like!

    The only true restrictions are:
    1) If you want the plate to be one of the sandwich layers, that layer needs to be proper plate thickness (1/16", iirc)
    2) The total room inside the case needs to be enough for what you want to put inside it (obviously).

    A basic sandwich case only has three layers -- one for the plate, one for a "spacer" layer of whatever thickness you want (within reason), and one for a bottom layer. You can split up your spacer layer into multiple thinner layers for the same overall thickness, or you can add multiple spacer layers to make a thick keyboard. You can also add a layer or layers above the plate, forming a raised bezel.

    If you can wait, I can give you the exact thickness of each of the layers of my GON layered acrylic case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 18:44:40
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:07:47
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:02:28
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 15:53:07
    What thickness should each piece be if I am making a sandwich style case?

    They can be as thin or as thick as you like!

    The only true restrictions are:
    1) If you want the plate to be one of the sandwich layers, that layer needs to be proper plate thickness (1/16", iirc)
    2) The total room inside the case needs to be enough for what you want to put inside it (obviously).

    A basic sandwich case only has three layers -- one for the plate, one for a "spacer" layer of whatever thickness you want (within reason), and one for a bottom layer. You can split up your spacer layer into multiple thinner layers for the same overall thickness, or you can add multiple spacer layers to make a thick keyboard. You can also add a layer or layers above the plate, forming a raised bezel.

    If you can wait, I can give you the exact thickness of each of the layers of my GON layered acrylic case.

    That would be wonderful if you could do that! The style I have is 4 parts, top and bottom would be 2/3mm (?) but the other two I'm not sure what heights I'd need.

    Thanks for the help guys :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 06 January 2016, 19:29:12
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 18:44:40
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:07:47
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:02:28
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 15:53:07
    What thickness should each piece be if I am making a sandwich style case?

    They can be as thin or as thick as you like!

    The only true restrictions are:
    1) If you want the plate to be one of the sandwich layers, that layer needs to be proper plate thickness (1/16", iirc)
    2) The total room inside the case needs to be enough for what you want to put inside it (obviously).

    A basic sandwich case only has three layers -- one for the plate, one for a "spacer" layer of whatever thickness you want (within reason), and one for a bottom layer. You can split up your spacer layer into multiple thinner layers for the same overall thickness, or you can add multiple spacer layers to make a thick keyboard. You can also add a layer or layers above the plate, forming a raised bezel.

    If you can wait, I can give you the exact thickness of each of the layers of my GON layered acrylic case.

    That would be wonderful if you could do that! The style I have is 4 parts, top and bottom would be 2/3mm (?) but the other two I'm not sure what heights I'd need.

    Thanks for the help guys :-*

    OK, I'll take my caliper with me to the office, tomorrow, to get those measurements for you. I'll post them here then.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Wed, 06 January 2016, 19:34:49
    Quote from: Solo on Wed, 06 January 2016, 16:00:35
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 06 January 2016, 11:00:31
    Gotcha. Thanks! I would mostly just harvest the sliders and replace them with stock sliders so I don't think JIS is too much of an issue. I want to join the purple slider club someday :))

    There's a 91UBK-S on eBay right now if you don't mind spending 280 bones lol.

    Link (http://m.ebay.com/itm/281902512631)

    Yeesh. That is crazy. I'd rather just proxy it; so much cheaper (http://page22.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l334834231) on Yahoo Auctions JP
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Wed, 06 January 2016, 22:36:46
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 06 January 2016, 19:34:49
    Quote from: Solo on Wed, 06 January 2016, 16:00:35
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 06 January 2016, 11:00:31
    Gotcha. Thanks! I would mostly just harvest the sliders and replace them with stock sliders so I don't think JIS is too much of an issue. I want to join the purple slider club someday :))

    There's a 91UBK-S on eBay right now if you don't mind spending 280 bones lol.

    Link (http://m.ebay.com/itm/281902512631)

    Yeesh. That is crazy. I'd rather just proxy it; so much cheaper (http://page22.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l334834231) on Yahoo Auctions JP

    Damn, that really is a good price.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Thu, 07 January 2016, 08:22:40
    Anybody know what keyboard this is? Don't have a model number but its apparently an Ortek KB.
    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Thu, 07 January 2016, 09:25:13
    anyone know anything about this keyboard?

    (http://i.imgur.com/FeN79aH.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Thu, 07 January 2016, 19:13:12
    Does anybody know of any patterns/designs for making a keyboard sleeve?  I was going to make a 60% one but any design would suffice since I can just change dimensions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 January 2016, 03:01:02
    Does anybody knows the difference in SS, Poly, Alu, Carbon plate? thank you  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 08 January 2016, 03:53:23
    Large differences. Weight, feel, sound, price... It's really too large a question to answer... But the short one is that Poly and Carbon are not good options, and SS and Alu are pretty similar, though most prefer SS to Alu due to the weight.

    Edit: Note, this is based on what I've read and what little experience I have with the subject. I've never tried Poly and Carbon, but Carbon is really expensive, and Poly flexes like... well, like Polyurethane.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 January 2016, 04:02:33
    price doesn't concern me the one that concern me are the feel and the sound of the board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:56:04
    I would like to buy a keyset with this color scheme (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331) but in SA profile. However, it seems as though only Signature Plastics produces SA profile keys. Do they take custom orders, or do I have to mix and match other SA sets (Penumbra, Modern Selectric, etc)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:14:20
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:56:04
    I would like to buy a keyset with this color scheme (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331) but in SA profile. However, it seems as though only Signature Plastics produces SA profile keys. Do they take custom orders, or do I have to mix and match other SA sets (Penumbra, Modern Selectric, etc)?

    SP does custom sets just like the ones you mentioned, but given the number of sets needed to make it affordable, you would need to create a group buy for them. SP has a group buy system that you can use to do this. They handle everything, you just design the set. You can find more information at http://pimpmykeyboard.com
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:39:38
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:14:20
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:56:04
    I would like to buy a keyset with this color scheme (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331) but in SA profile. However, it seems as though only Signature Plastics produces SA profile keys. Do they take custom orders, or do I have to mix and match other SA sets (Penumbra, Modern Selectric, etc)?

    SP does custom sets just like the ones you mentioned, but given the number of sets needed to make it affordable, you would need to create a group buy for them. SP has a group buy system that you can use to do this. They handle everything, you just design the set. You can find more information at http://pimpmykeyboard.com

    Oh boy, that seems like a lot more work than I expected. And it seems unlikely to actually get one to run. I'd think the colors aren't interesting enough to warrant sufficient interest for a group buy.

    Thank you for your answer!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 12:55:41
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:39:38
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:14:20
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:56:04
    I would like to buy a keyset with this color scheme (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331) but in SA profile. However, it seems as though only Signature Plastics produces SA profile keys. Do they take custom orders, or do I have to mix and match other SA sets (Penumbra, Modern Selectric, etc)?

    SP does custom sets just like the ones you mentioned, but given the number of sets needed to make it affordable, you would need to create a group buy for them. SP has a group buy system that you can use to do this. They handle everything, you just design the set. You can find more information at http://pimpmykeyboard.com

    Oh boy, that seems like a lot more work than I expected. And it seems unlikely to actually get one to run. I'd think the colors aren't interesting enough to warrant sufficient interest for a group buy.

    Thank you for your answer!

    It depends how much work you want to do. You could always create an interest check to see if there are others that would like the set. You might be surprised to learn that there are a lot of other people into the same colors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 12:58:57
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 12:55:41
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:39:38
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:14:20
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:56:04
    I would like to buy a keyset with this color scheme (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331) but in SA profile. However, it seems as though only Signature Plastics produces SA profile keys. Do they take custom orders, or do I have to mix and match other SA sets (Penumbra, Modern Selectric, etc)?

    SP does custom sets just like the ones you mentioned, but given the number of sets needed to make it affordable, you would need to create a group buy for them. SP has a group buy system that you can use to do this. They handle everything, you just design the set. You can find more information at http://pimpmykeyboard.com

    Oh boy, that seems like a lot more work than I expected. And it seems unlikely to actually get one to run. I'd think the colors aren't interesting enough to warrant sufficient interest for a group buy.

    Thank you for your answer!

    It depends how much work you want to do. You could always create an interest check to see if there are others that would like the set. You might be surprised to learn that there are a lot of other people into the same colors.

    I will begin looking into it all. Again, thank you for the help.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 08 January 2016, 22:52:14
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:39:38
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:14:20
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:56:04
    I would like to buy a keyset with this color scheme (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331) but in SA profile. However, it seems as though only Signature Plastics produces SA profile keys. Do they take custom orders, or do I have to mix and match other SA sets (Penumbra, Modern Selectric, etc)?

    SP does custom sets just like the ones you mentioned, but given the number of sets needed to make it affordable, you would need to create a group buy for them. SP has a group buy system that you can use to do this. They handle everything, you just design the set. You can find more information at http://pimpmykeyboard.com

    Oh boy, that seems like a lot more work than I expected. And it seems unlikely to actually get one to run. I'd think the colors aren't interesting enough to warrant sufficient interest for a group buy.

    Thank you for your answer!

    You'd be surprised! It's a nice and clean colorway and I think it would generate a good about of interest. Especially in SA which has been rather popular lately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 09 January 2016, 05:00:24
    Yeah, except for Round6 all SA sets have been a touch overdesigned as well...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 09 January 2016, 05:26:28
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 12:58:57
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 12:55:41
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:39:38
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:14:20
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:56:04
    I would like to buy a keyset with this color scheme (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331) but in SA profile. However, it seems as though only Signature Plastics produces SA profile keys. Do they take custom orders, or do I have to mix and match other SA sets (Penumbra, Modern Selectric, etc)?

    SP does custom sets just like the ones you mentioned, but given the number of sets needed to make it affordable, you would need to create a group buy for them. SP has a group buy system that you can use to do this. They handle everything, you just design the set. You can find more information at http://pimpmykeyboard.com

    Oh boy, that seems like a lot more work than I expected. And it seems unlikely to actually get one to run. I'd think the colors aren't interesting enough to warrant sufficient interest for a group buy.

    Thank you for your answer!

    It depends how much work you want to do. You could always create an interest check to see if there are others that would like the set. You might be surprised to learn that there are a lot of other people into the same colors.

    I will begin looking into it all. Again, thank you for the help.  :thumb:

    If you do, consider that many will say that in the picture you linked the \| key and most of the numpad is the wrong colour.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 09 January 2016, 08:18:30
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 09 January 2016, 05:26:28
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 12:58:57
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 12:55:41
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:39:38
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:14:20
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:56:04
    I would like to buy a keyset with this color scheme (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331) but in SA profile. However, it seems as though only Signature Plastics produces SA profile keys. Do they take custom orders, or do I have to mix and match other SA sets (Penumbra, Modern Selectric, etc)?

    SP does custom sets just like the ones you mentioned, but given the number of sets needed to make it affordable, you would need to create a group buy for them. SP has a group buy system that you can use to do this. They handle everything, you just design the set. You can find more information at http://pimpmykeyboard.com

    Oh boy, that seems like a lot more work than I expected. And it seems unlikely to actually get one to run. I'd think the colors aren't interesting enough to warrant sufficient interest for a group buy.

    Thank you for your answer!

    It depends how much work you want to do. You could always create an interest check to see if there are others that would like the set. You might be surprised to learn that there are a lot of other people into the same colors.

    I will begin looking into it all. Again, thank you for the help.  :thumb:

    If you do, consider that many will say that in the picture you linked the \| key and most of the numpad is the wrong colour.

    I would agree with this. I would prefer them in the white, but either way, this would probably end up on a 60%, so it's moot for me .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 09 January 2016, 08:34:31
    Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 09 January 2016, 08:18:30
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 09 January 2016, 05:26:28

    If you do, consider that many will say that in the picture you linked the \| key and most of the numpad is the wrong colour.

    I would agree with this. I would prefer them in the white, but either way, this would probably end up on a 60%, so it's moot for me .

    Tilde and Backslash in contrast makes an agreeable frame around the alphas, as do the top and right sides of the numpad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Sat, 09 January 2016, 08:36:19
    Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 09 January 2016, 08:18:30
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 09 January 2016, 05:26:28
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 12:58:57
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 12:55:41
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:39:38
    Quote from: mashby on Fri, 08 January 2016, 10:14:20
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:56:04
    I would like to buy a keyset with this color scheme (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331) but in SA profile. However, it seems as though only Signature Plastics produces SA profile keys. Do they take custom orders, or do I have to mix and match other SA sets (Penumbra, Modern Selectric, etc)?

    SP does custom sets just like the ones you mentioned, but given the number of sets needed to make it affordable, you would need to create a group buy for them. SP has a group buy system that you can use to do this. They handle everything, you just design the set. You can find more information at http://pimpmykeyboard.com

    Oh boy, that seems like a lot more work than I expected. And it seems unlikely to actually get one to run. I'd think the colors aren't interesting enough to warrant sufficient interest for a group buy.

    Thank you for your answer!

    It depends how much work you want to do. You could always create an interest check to see if there are others that would like the set. You might be surprised to learn that there are a lot of other people into the same colors.

    I will begin looking into it all. Again, thank you for the help.  :thumb:

    If you do, consider that many will say that in the picture you linked the \| key and most of the numpad is the wrong colour.

    I would agree with this. I would prefer them in the white, but either way, this would probably end up on a 60%, so it's moot for me .

    Well I wouldn't copy it exactly. I'm just a fan of the blue and white. I'll try to find someone else (who the community knows better) to see if they're interested.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 09 January 2016, 09:04:48
    anyone with FC660 topre can maybe give me an idea of the switch weighting? I recently read on here that it feels more than the advertised 45g and I'm looking for an alternative to the RF55g I recently got because it seems to require much more actuation force than I thought and I'm needing a separate arrow cluster.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 09 January 2016, 11:04:33
    Does anyone have pictures of the stabilised keys of an SGI Granite board and of a Leading Edge DC-3014? I can't seem to find any online, and I wonder if the keycaps from the SGI will fit on the LE, or if they use completely different stabilisers.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: D3avy on Sat, 09 January 2016, 16:10:21
    Anyone know if GON NerD 60 acrylic case would fit a b.face X2 PCB?

    They seem to have the same plate cutouts so I guess it should work?

    Little bit weird to mix those two but since WKL currently doesn't have cases for sale and I like GON ones more because there is one extra layer on top instead of plate being on top making switch tops visible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sat, 09 January 2016, 18:33:54
    Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 09 January 2016, 11:04:33
    Does anyone have pictures of the stabilised keys of an SGI Granite board and of a Leading Edge DC-3014? I can't seem to find any online, and I wonder if the keycaps from the SGI will fit on the LE, or if they use completely different stabilisers.

    Thanks!
    I have a non-granite SGI board from the same product line. It's an Alps Bigfoot keyboard. I don't have caps at hand (they're in a sack after cleaning), but stabs are ordinary Alps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Sat, 09 January 2016, 19:42:59
    Is there a way to remap the keys from an NPKC Numpad to other functions without effecting my other keyboard's number row?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 09 January 2016, 20:25:52
    Quote from: Dernubenfrieken on Sat, 09 January 2016, 19:42:59
    Is there a way to remap the keys from an NPKC Numpad to other functions without effecting my other keyboard's number row?

    If it outputs number row codes, no. If it outputs normal numpad codes, then yes. Unless you want to use a "modifier" key in addition to pressing the keys, for example left shift.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 10 January 2016, 01:54:08
    Where can I buy HOLTEK HT82K94E controller of Poker X?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:34:33
    GMK vs Cherry profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:47:31
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:34:33
    GMK vs Cherry profile?

    same thing for the most part. GMK bought all the machining from cherry
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:52:01
    I have never participated in a Bro Caps GB before and was curious about how they are formatted - is it first come first serve I hope not , raffle style, etc?  Also, how long do they typically last for, 24hr?
    I can't wait for Bro's Jolly Roger Sale now that he's posted the teaser!  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59295.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59295.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:55:15
    Quote from: cryptokey on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:52:01
    I have never participated in a Bro Caps GB before and was curious about how they are formatted - is it first come first serve I hope not , raffle style, etc?  Also, how long do they typically last for, 24hr?
    I can't wait for Bro's Jolly Roger Sale now that he's posted the teaser!  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59295.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59295.0)

    If it's through bro himself, it's normally first come first serve.

    If he does it through Ctrl Alt then it's raffle style which lasts 24 or more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:55:28
    Where can I get replacement LED overlays? Like this one

    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=73872.0;attach=106515;image)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Sun, 10 January 2016, 16:00:03
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:55:15
    Quote from: cryptokey on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:52:01
    I have never participated in a Bro Caps GB before and was curious about how they are formatted - is it first come first serve I hope not , raffle style, etc?  Also, how long do they typically last for, 24hr?
    I can't wait for Bro's Jolly Roger Sale now that he's posted the teaser!  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59295.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59295.0)

    If it's through bro himself, it's normally first come first serve.

    If he does it through Ctrl Alt then it's raffle style which lasts 24 or more.

    Thanks for the info!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Sun, 10 January 2016, 16:50:28
    This is probably a really stupid question, but can you use TMK with a GON pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 January 2016, 17:43:14
    Quote from: piemancoder on Sun, 10 January 2016, 16:50:28
    This is probably a really stupid question, but can you use TMK with a GON pcb?

    I found this reference on the subject.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3k6u5h/gon_pcb_w_tmk_software/https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3k6u5h/gon_pcb_w_tmk_software/

    It seems a bit cumbersome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 18:02:25
    Whenever I touch my lightsaver and get shocked (static) it shorts and resets. Normal occurrence? Also sometimes the numpad LED turns off and I need to manually turn numlock off and back on again (numlock indicator on other keyboard still lit).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 10 January 2016, 18:55:10
    I have never touched a Lightsaver, but that can't be good!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 18:57:18
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 10 January 2016, 18:55:10
    I have never touched a Lightsaver, but that can't be good!


    it's not that the lightsaver is shocking me, u know when you grab a metal door handle and sometimes get static? well sometimes it happens to lightsaver :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 10 January 2016, 19:17:44
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 18:02:25
    Whenever I touch my lightsaver and get shocked (static) it shorts and resets. Normal occurrence? Also sometimes the numpad LED turns off and I need to manually turn numlock off and back on again (numlock indicator on other keyboard still lit).

    Sounds like there might be a short somewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 19:28:40
    Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 10 January 2016, 19:17:44
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 18:02:25
    Whenever I touch my lightsaver and get shocked (static) it shorts and resets. Normal occurrence? Also sometimes the numpad LED turns off and I need to manually turn numlock off and back on again (numlock indicator on other keyboard still lit).

    Sounds like there might be a short somewhere.

    Hmm.. well I hope the issue is resolved whenever I can get a new PCB for it.

    So far it doesn't really cause any issues, it rarely happens. Just a weird occurrence when it DOES happen.

    Also does anywhere here do commission for custom PCB designs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Solo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 19:36:22
    Is it really dry where you are? When I was in college (Downtown Detroit, MI), the dorms were cold and dry as **** and every time I opened up my laptop it would shock the hell out of me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 19:51:24
    Quote from: Solo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 19:36:22
    Is it really dry where you are? When I was in college (Downtown Detroit, MI), the dorms were cold and dry as **** and every time I opened up my laptop it would shock the hell out of me.

    Don't think downtown toronto is particularly dry... but my office has the heat on full blast. Whenever I move around a lot I get shocked (100% every time I go to the fridge to grab a can of soda I get shocked, every ****ing time)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 10 January 2016, 20:35:50
    Quote from: mason on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:55:28
    Where can I get replacement LED overlays? Like this one

    Show Image
    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=73872.0;attach=106515;image)


    A good place to start: http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/LED
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Mon, 11 January 2016, 05:21:00
    Cheapest way to get a HHKB to the UK? With shipping/taxes from elitekeyboards it gets to $300 from the $200.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Mon, 11 January 2016, 10:55:39
    Where do I get a Yarbo PS/2 cable, if that's even possible?


    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 11 January 2016, 05:21:00
    Cheapest way to get a HHKB to the UK? With shipping/taxes from elitekeyboards it gets to $300 from the $200.

    Probably buying one off the classifieds. From what I know Topre stuff is a little uncommon in the EU due to the high import taxes. Even if you had someone send one from the US, It'd still be like $30-35 just to ship it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 11 January 2016, 11:14:51
    So I did a whatchamacall "bad" job soldering my new Alps board, and the 1 key is not working. There are three spare switch placements left on the board, and I was thinking of simply using tinytiny cables to route through those instead.
    However, the switch is still connected to one of the holes on the original 1 placement, since I only wrecked the other.
    How would this affect the matrix?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Mon, 11 January 2016, 12:07:40
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 11 January 2016, 05:21:00
    Cheapest way to get a HHKB to the UK? With shipping/taxes from elitekeyboards it gets to $300 from the $200.

    geekhack user Evo_Spec helped me proxy a hhkb from japan.
    from EK or PFU directly would've cost me a lot more.
    he was very communicative and helpful, made it very clear how it would work and what my options were.
    so he's a good choice if you want a new, un-used HHKB :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:10:51
    I'm looking at the Phantom PCB and Plate from mechanical keyboards.com, what cases would the plate be compatible with?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 11 January 2016, 14:45:55
    Quote from: Dernubenfrieken on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:10:51
    I'm looking at the Phantom PCB and Plate from mechanical keyboards.com, what cases would the plate be compatible with?

    Filco TKL cases, and these when Mechanicalkeyboards gets them back in stock.

    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:22:42
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 08 January 2016, 03:53:23
    Large differences. Weight, feel, sound, price... It's really too large a question to answer... But the short one is that Poly and Carbon are not good options, and SS and Alu are pretty similar, though most prefer SS to Alu due to the weight.

    Edit: Note, this is based on what I've read and what little experience I have with the subject. I've never tried Poly and Carbon, but Carbon is really expensive, and Poly flexes like... well, like Polyurethane.

    Couldn't let this go without correcting it. Carbon fiber and polycarb plates (probably polycarbonate rather than polyurethane, though I think both have been made at one point or another) are not "bad" they just feel different. They have flex to them which many people like, for tactile Cherry switches especially. It's similar to having PCB mount switches.

    Additionally, typically stainless steel has less flex than aluminum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:37:10
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:22:42
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 08 January 2016, 03:53:23
    Large differences. Weight, feel, sound, price... It's really too large a question to answer... But the short one is that Poly and Carbon are not good options, and SS and Alu are pretty similar, though most prefer SS to Alu due to the weight.

    Edit: Note, this is based on what I've read and what little experience I have with the subject. I've never tried Poly and Carbon, but Carbon is really expensive, and Poly flexes like... well, like Polyurethane.

    Couldn't let this go without correcting it. Carbon fiber and polycarb plates (probably polycarbonate rather than polyurethane, though I think both have been made at one point or another) are not "bad" they just feel different. They have flex to them which many people like, for tactile Cherry switches especially. It's similar to having PCB mount switches.

    Additionally, typically stainless steel has less flex than aluminum.
    So its like stainless steel is an upgrade from alumunium and carbon is an upgrade to the polycarbonate plate yes?. I don't know what plate to use for my blue alps and green alps build. So its better to use the SS plate for green alps and linear cherry right? And carbon plate for tactile and clicky switches am I right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:48:47
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:37:10
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:22:42
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 08 January 2016, 03:53:23
    Large differences. Weight, feel, sound, price... It's really too large a question to answer... But the short one is that Poly and Carbon are not good options, and SS and Alu are pretty similar, though most prefer SS to Alu due to the weight.

    Edit: Note, this is based on what I've read and what little experience I have with the subject. I've never tried Poly and Carbon, but Carbon is really expensive, and Poly flexes like... well, like Polyurethane.

    Couldn't let this go without correcting it. Carbon fiber and polycarb plates (probably polycarbonate rather than polyurethane, though I think both have been made at one point or another) are not "bad" they just feel different. They have flex to them which many people like, for tactile Cherry switches especially. It's similar to having PCB mount switches.

    Additionally, typically stainless steel has less flex than aluminum.
    So its like stainless steel is an upgrade from alumunium and carbon is an upgrade to the polycarbonate plate yes?. I don't know what plate to use for my blue alps and green alps build. So its better to use the SS plate for green alps and linear cherry right? And carbon plate for tactile and clicky switches am I right?

    That seems to be the most common preference, yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:56:28
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:48:47
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:37:10
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:22:42
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 08 January 2016, 03:53:23
    Large differences. Weight, feel, sound, price... It's really too large a question to answer... But the short one is that Poly and Carbon are not good options, and SS and Alu are pretty similar, though most prefer SS to Alu due to the weight.

    Edit: Note, this is based on what I've read and what little experience I have with the subject. I've never tried Poly and Carbon, but Carbon is really expensive, and Poly flexes like... well, like Polyurethane.

    Couldn't let this go without correcting it. Carbon fiber and polycarb plates (probably polycarbonate rather than polyurethane, though I think both have been made at one point or another) are not "bad" they just feel different. They have flex to them which many people like, for tactile Cherry switches especially. It's similar to having PCB mount switches.

    Additionally, typically stainless steel has less flex than aluminum.
    So its like stainless steel is an upgrade from alumunium and carbon is an upgrade to the polycarbonate plate yes?. I don't know what plate to use for my blue alps and green alps build. So its better to use the SS plate for green alps and linear cherry right? And carbon plate for tactile and clicky switches am I right?

    That seems to be the most common preference, yes.
    Thank you for the reply bro. What is your personal preferance if I may ask?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 11 January 2016, 22:07:51
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:56:28
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:48:47
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:37:10
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:22:42
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 08 January 2016, 03:53:23
    Large differences. Weight, feel, sound, price... It's really too large a question to answer... But the short one is that Poly and Carbon are not good options, and SS and Alu are pretty similar, though most prefer SS to Alu due to the weight.

    Edit: Note, this is based on what I've read and what little experience I have with the subject. I've never tried Poly and Carbon, but Carbon is really expensive, and Poly flexes like... well, like Polyurethane.

    Couldn't let this go without correcting it. Carbon fiber and polycarb plates (probably polycarbonate rather than polyurethane, though I think both have been made at one point or another) are not "bad" they just feel different. They have flex to them which many people like, for tactile Cherry switches especially. It's similar to having PCB mount switches.

    Additionally, typically stainless steel has less flex than aluminum.
    So its like stainless steel is an upgrade from alumunium and carbon is an upgrade to the polycarbonate plate yes?. I don't know what plate to use for my blue alps and green alps build. So its better to use the SS plate for green alps and linear cherry right? And carbon plate for tactile and clicky switches am I right?

    That seems to be the most common preference, yes.
    Thank you for the reply bro. What is your personal preferance if I may ask?

    None are really better than any other.  They just simply provide a different feel.

    In order from most to least flex, I would rate it at, thin poly, thick poly, aluminum, SS.  I don't have any experience with CF, but I would imagine it would fall between aluminum and stainless steel.  The less flex, the harsher the bottom out feel is going to be.  Though I reckon, a lot of people won't feel much difference, or if they can, it doesn't matter enough to warrant delegating a different plate material to different switches.

    Though, one primary difference is going to be color.  Acrylic and plolycarbonate are going to be a touch more difficult to paint due to being plastic and getting a proper primer to get good adhesion, but it is offered in a variety of colors.  Plus, laser cutting plastics generally releases a lot of bad **** which needs to be cleaned out of the exhaust before it can be released to the atmosphere.

    Now aluminum and titanium can both be anodized, which is an electrical applied chemical conversion coating that works in different ways for these two materials.  For aluminum, when anodized, it actually produces hexagonal pores similar to honeycomb and then a dye is applied that soaks into these pores.  This is the reason why color matching between batches is very difficult, because everything happens in a bath of chemicals and visual inspection during the process is impossible.  Ti is a bit different in it changes the depth at which light absorbs into and reflects back.  This difference in depth is what gives the different colors and can be adjusted by changing the amount of voltage.  If the color desired is passed, you can't go back to a lower voltage and get it without mechanical removal of the anodized finish.  However, one can go up to the next multiple of that voltage to get the color desired.

    Now carbon steel and stainless steel have a bunch of different coatings possible not limited to traditional paint, powder coating, Cerakote, black oxide for carbon, black phosphate for stainless, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 22:16:47
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:56:28
    Thank you for the reply bro. What is your personal preferance if I may ask?

    For linear switches I prefer very stiff plates. I don't enjoy tactile or clicky MX switches so I can't really speak to them.

    Also, +1 to Melvang's awesome info
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 11 January 2016, 22:53:02
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 11 January 2016, 22:07:51
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:56:28
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:48:47
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:37:10
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:22:42
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 08 January 2016, 03:53:23
    Large differences. Weight, feel, sound, price... It's really too large a question to answer... But the short one is that Poly and Carbon are not good options, and SS and Alu are pretty similar, though most prefer SS to Alu due to the weight.

    Edit: Note, this is based on what I've read and what little experience I have with the subject. I've never tried Poly and Carbon, but Carbon is really expensive, and Poly flexes like... well, like Polyurethane.

    Couldn't let this go without correcting it. Carbon fiber and polycarb plates (probably polycarbonate rather than polyurethane, though I think both have been made at one point or another) are not "bad" they just feel different. They have flex to them which many people like, for tactile Cherry switches especially. It's similar to having PCB mount switches.

    Additionally, typically stainless steel has less flex than aluminum.
    So its like stainless steel is an upgrade from alumunium and carbon is an upgrade to the polycarbonate plate yes?. I don't know what plate to use for my blue alps and green alps build. So its better to use the SS plate for green alps and linear cherry right? And carbon plate for tactile and clicky switches am I right?

    That seems to be the most common preference, yes.
    Thank you for the reply bro. What is your personal preferance if I may ask?

    None are really better than any other.  They just simply provide a different feel.

    In order from most to least flex, I would rate it at, thin poly, thick poly, aluminum, SS.  I don't have any experience with CF, but I would imagine it would fall between aluminum and stainless steel.  The less flex, the harsher the bottom out feel is going to be.  Though I reckon, a lot of people won't feel much difference, or if they can, it doesn't matter enough to warrant delegating a different plate material to different switches.

    Though, one primary difference is going to be color.  Acrylic and plolycarbonate are going to be a touch more difficult to paint due to being plastic and getting a proper primer to get good adhesion, but it is offered in a variety of colors.  Plus, laser cutting plastics generally releases a lot of bad **** which needs to be cleaned out of the exhaust before it can be released to the atmosphere.

    Now aluminum and titanium can both be anodized, which is an electrical applied chemical conversion coating that works in different ways for these two materials.  For aluminum, when anodized, it actually produces hexagonal pores similar to honeycomb and then a dye is applied that soaks into these pores.  This is the reason why color matching between batches is very difficult, because everything happens in a bath of chemicals and visual inspection during the process is impossible.  Ti is a bit different in it changes the depth at which light absorbs into and reflects back.  This difference in depth is what gives the different colors and can be adjusted by changing the amount of voltage.  If the color desired is passed, you can't go back to a lower voltage and get it without mechanical removal of the anodized finish.  However, one can go up to the next multiple of that voltage to get the color desired.

    Now carbon steel and stainless steel have a bunch of different coatings possible not limited to traditional paint, powder coating, Cerakote, black oxide for carbon, black phosphate for stainless, etc.

    Awesome info. Thanks for sharing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 12 January 2016, 05:43:12
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 22:16:47
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:56:28
    Thank you for the reply bro. What is your personal preferance if I may ask?

    For linear switches I prefer very stiff plates. I don't enjoy tactile or clicky MX switches so I can't really speak to them.

    Also, +1 to Melvang's awesome info

    Green Alps feel so nice on a CF plate. I always end up missing my Hammer when I'm not using it. It's just so unique in feel. Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy your Green Alps by the way! I forgot why that was. Were they scratchy for you? I was lucky that mine came from a truly unused board, so mine were as good as one could hope for.

    I'm going to try to get a CF Alps plate made for my Lightpad so I can mount Alps onto it. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Tue, 12 January 2016, 05:59:06
    Is there any special name for usb cable without connectors.  I am trying to find some and cant really find any spools that specifically say it is good for usb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 12 January 2016, 06:07:44
    Yes, "cable". You want at least four leads.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 12 January 2016, 06:19:56
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 11 January 2016, 22:07:51
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:56:28
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:48:47
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:37:10
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:22:42
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 08 January 2016, 03:53:23
    Large differences. Weight, feel, sound, price... It's really too large a question to answer... But the short one is that Poly and Carbon are not good options, and SS and Alu are pretty similar, though most prefer SS to Alu due to the weight.

    Edit: Note, this is based on what I've read and what little experience I have with the subject. I've never tried Poly and Carbon, but Carbon is really expensive, and Poly flexes like... well, like Polyurethane.

    Couldn't let this go without correcting it. Carbon fiber and polycarb plates (probably polycarbonate rather than polyurethane, though I think both have been made at one point or another) are not "bad" they just feel different. They have flex to them which many people like, for tactile Cherry switches especially. It's similar to having PCB mount switches.

    Additionally, typically stainless steel has less flex than aluminum.
    So its like stainless steel is an upgrade from alumunium and carbon is an upgrade to the polycarbonate plate yes?. I don't know what plate to use for my blue alps and green alps build. So its better to use the SS plate for green alps and linear cherry right? And carbon plate for tactile and clicky switches am I right?

    That seems to be the most common preference, yes.
    Thank you for the reply bro. What is your personal preferance if I may ask?

    None are really better than any other.  They just simply provide a different feel.

    In order from most to least flex, I would rate it at, thin poly, thick poly, aluminum, SS.  I don't have any experience with CF, but I would imagine it would fall between aluminum and stainless steel.  The less flex, the harsher the bottom out feel is going to be.  Though I reckon, a lot of people won't feel much difference, or if they can, it doesn't matter enough to warrant delegating a different plate material to different switches.

    Though, one primary difference is going to be color.  Acrylic and plolycarbonate are going to be a touch more difficult to paint due to being plastic and getting a proper primer to get good adhesion, but it is offered in a variety of colors.  Plus, laser cutting plastics generally releases a lot of bad **** which needs to be cleaned out of the exhaust before it can be released to the atmosphere.

    Now aluminum and titanium can both be anodized, which is an electrical applied chemical conversion coating that works in different ways for these two materials.  For aluminum, when anodized, it actually produces hexagonal pores similar to honeycomb and then a dye is applied that soaks into these pores.  This is the reason why color matching between batches is very difficult, because everything happens in a bath of chemicals and visual inspection during the process is impossible.  Ti is a bit different in it changes the depth at which light absorbs into and reflects back.  This difference in depth is what gives the different colors and can be adjusted by changing the amount of voltage.  If the color desired is passed, you can't go back to a lower voltage and get it without mechanical removal of the anodized finish.  However, one can go up to the next multiple of that voltage to get the color desired.

    Now carbon steel and stainless steel have a bunch of different coatings possible not limited to traditional paint, powder coating, Cerakote, black oxide for carbon, black phosphate for stainless, etc.
    So its just the more flex the softer the bottoming will be yes? and the main difference is color right?
    Goin to ask LeandreN for CF plate and SS plate I think I need to pass Alu plate cause its no different with SS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Tue, 12 January 2016, 07:23:07
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 12 January 2016, 06:07:44
    Yes, "cable". You want at least four leads.

    Yes i am assuming there is purpose made cable, with four leads with what two twisted together and the drain sheeth. Anyone have a link maybe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 12 January 2016, 16:31:44
    JTK sets and GMK sets are the same exact profile right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 12 January 2016, 16:44:21
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 12 January 2016, 16:31:44
    JTK sets and GMK sets are the same exact profile right?
    Yep cherry profile caps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 12 January 2016, 18:05:35
    Hey all,

    I'm thinking of picking up a Focus- FK-6000 for $70 USD. It's brand new and has never been used, no yellowing or dust at all!

    I have really been wanting to try ALPS switches, and from my research It's either Complicated ALPS, alps.tw Type T4, or Futaba Clicky Switch. Is it worth taking the risk? There's no returns. What's the likelyhood of one of these using Alps? The label on the back, if I'm reading it correctly, is dated 93'. Since it's quite far away, I can't remove the keycap to check myself.

    My other option is a more worn-out FK-2001 that will probably need a little retr0bright and a keycap wash, but I know for a fact it uses Complicated Alps.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:15:34
    Are there any 6u PBT space bars. Not really concered about the profile. I just want it to be PBT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:41:55
    Quote from: Vozella on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:15:34
    Are there any 6u PBT space bars. Not really concered about the profile. I just want it to be PBT.

    Yep, the Infinity has one for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:43:18
    Quote from: Vozella on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:15:34
    Are there any 6u PBT space bars. Not really concered about the profile. I just want it to be PBT.

    Imsto is selling these on his website. 

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 13 January 2016, 11:05:11
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:43:18
    Quote from: Vozella on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:15:34
    Are there any 6u PBT space bars. Not really concered about the profile. I just want it to be PBT.

    Imsto is selling these on his website. 

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99)

    Just keep in mind that these are Cherry profile and so the stem will be off-center.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vozella on Wed, 13 January 2016, 12:12:02
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:43:18
    Quote from: Vozella on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:15:34
    Are there any 6u PBT space bars. Not really concered about the profile. I just want it to be PBT.

    Imsto is selling these on his website. 

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99)

    Quote from: E3E on Wed, 13 January 2016, 11:05:11
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:43:18
    Quote from: Vozella on Tue, 12 January 2016, 22:15:34
    Are there any 6u PBT space bars. Not really concered about the profile. I just want it to be PBT.

    Imsto is selling these on his website. 

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99)

    Just keep in mind that these are Cherry profile and so the stem will be off-center.
    Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 13 January 2016, 18:06:43
    Is there a noticable difference in the keyfeel between Complicated White Alps and Simplified White Alps? They are both real ALPS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 13 January 2016, 18:17:59
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 13 January 2016, 18:06:43
    Is there a noticable difference in the keyfeel between Complicated White Alps and Simplified White Alps? They are both real ALPS.

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 13 January 2016, 18:52:41
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 13 January 2016, 18:17:59
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 13 January 2016, 18:06:43
    Is there a noticable difference in the keyfeel between Complicated White Alps and Simplified White Alps? They are both real ALPS.

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


    I got that information from the wiki http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBL/SKBM_series

    the keyboard I want has the switches looking like
     (http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/f/f2/Switch_recognition--Alps--Simplified.svg/175px-Switch_recognition--Alps--Simplified.svg.png)

    i assumed they were real alps because they had ALPS written on them and most clones don't do that.

    I only want to know if there is a major difference in the feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Wed, 13 January 2016, 19:13:27
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 13 January 2016, 18:52:41
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 13 January 2016, 18:17:59
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 13 January 2016, 18:06:43
    Is there a noticable difference in the keyfeel between Complicated White Alps and Simplified White Alps? They are both real ALPS.

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


    I got that information from the wiki http://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBL/SKBM_series

    the keyboard I want has the switches looking like
     
    Show Image
    (http://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/f/f2/Switch_recognition--Alps--Simplified.svg/175px-Switch_recognition--Alps--Simplified.svg.png)


    i assumed they were real alps because they had ALPS written on them and most clones don't do that.

    I only want to know if there is a major difference in the feel.


    Yes. This might be an overgeneralization, but for the most part, complicated Alps have a much more satisfying tactile feel. Salmon and Orange Alps are particularly sought after.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:00:27
    What are the dimensions for a standard 60% PCB? I had the numbers but I seem to have lost them somewhere
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:39:11
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:00:27
    What are the dimensions for a standard 60% PCB? I had the numbers but I seem to have lost them somewhere

    286mm x 94mm I think...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddot on Thu, 14 January 2016, 15:49:33
    Q:  I was thinking of experimenting with lubing up some springs to see how that affects the ping.  I’ve got a bottle (not an aerosol can) of the “ DuPont Multi-Use Lubricant with Teflon (http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/product/multi-use-lubricant.php)” lying around.  Seems similar to the “ DuPont Silicone Lubricant with Teflon (http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/product/silicone-lubricant.php)” that’s recommended in a few places, but doesn’t have the silicone component.  Would this be safe to use on the spring?  Or even if it is, am I just wasting my time with it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 14 January 2016, 15:51:08
    Quote from: ddot on Thu, 14 January 2016, 15:49:33
    Q:  I was thinking of experimenting with lubing up some springs to see how that affects the ping.  I’ve got a bottle (not an aerosol can) of the “ DuPont Multi-Use Lubricant with Teflon (http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/product/multi-use-lubricant.php)” lying around.  Seems similar to the “ DuPont Silicone Lubricant with Teflon (http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/product/silicone-lubricant.php)” that’s recommended in a few places, but doesn’t have the silicone component.  Would this be safe to use on the spring?  Or even if it is, am I just wasting my time with it?

    The biggest issue will be in how it reacts with the plastic of the switch housing.  My recommendation is to stick with the silicone or pick up some Krytox.  There are a few vendors here that supply it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddot on Thu, 14 January 2016, 17:51:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 14 January 2016, 15:51:08
    The biggest issue will be in how it reacts with the plastic of the switch housing.  My recommendation is to stick with the silicone or pick up some Krytox.  There are a few vendors here that supply it.

    Thanks Melvang.

    Does anyone know if the non silicone version will have a negative reaction with the plastics, or is that just a cautionary guess?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 14 January 2016, 18:01:35
    Quote from: ddot on Thu, 14 January 2016, 17:51:17
    Does anyone know if the non silicone version will have a negative reaction with the plastics, or is that just a cautionary guess?

    There are often (usually) carriers or propellants that are solvents outright or otherwise act as solvents long-term. That is what you have to watch out for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Thu, 14 January 2016, 22:38:38
    How does one do anything on a 40% board?  Like I see them and they look so nice and portable being tiny but then I'm like wait. No numbers, no f-keys, no esc, del, etc.  Is it just lots of function layers that you've gotta know?  Not ripping on them, just ignorant to how they're used.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Thu, 14 January 2016, 22:39:44
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 14 January 2016, 22:38:38
    How does one do anything on a 40% board?  Like I see them and they look so nice and portable being tiny but then I'm like wait. No numbers, no f-keys, no esc, del, etc.  Is it just lots of function layers that you've gotta know?  Not ripping on them, just ignorant to how they're used.

    I think you've got it. Lots and lots of function layers. XD

    Realistically I think you'd use two for 90% of your keys and a third for that final 10%. Just something to get used to, I suppose.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Thu, 14 January 2016, 22:42:45
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Thu, 14 January 2016, 22:39:44
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 14 January 2016, 22:38:38
    How does one do anything on a 40% board?  Like I see them and they look so nice and portable being tiny but then I'm like wait. No numbers, no f-keys, no esc, del, etc.  Is it just lots of function layers that you've gotta know?  Not ripping on them, just ignorant to how they're used.

    I think you've got it. Lots and lots of function layers. XD

    Realistically I think you'd use two for 90% of your keys and a third for that final 10%. Just something to get used to, I suppose.

    OK.  I feel like it would be very efficient when you get used to it.  I could see myself using one if I travelled a ton and used that one board a lot because otherwise I'd find it difficult to get used to the layers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 03:06:15
    Well, I feel like I became more efficient with a 60%, but 90% of that is not moving my hand back and forward to the arrow keys. I mostly use the arrow keys to navigate text (code) though, and most people don't do that, they just use a mouse.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:11:05
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 03:06:15
    Well, I feel like I became more efficient with a 60%, but 90% of that is not moving my hand back and forward to the arrow keys. I mostly use the arrow keys to navigate text (code) though, and most people don't do that, they just use a mouse.

    I do that! Specifically I use ESDF for arrows. WASD is absolutely terrible if your typing. I've actually got a pretty efficient function layer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:12:38
    Ijkl here. Tried using hjkl, but I started lusting for the blood of Emacs users, so I changed it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:14:16
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:12:38
    Ijkl here. Tried using hjkl, but I started lusting for the blood of Emacs users, so I changed it.

    I use ijkl also, I do not think this is unpopular at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:39:25
    Quote from: cryptokey on Thu, 14 January 2016, 22:38:38
    How does one do anything on a 40% board?  Like I see them and they look so nice and portable being tiny but then I'm like wait. No numbers, no f-keys, no esc, del, etc.  Is it just lots of function layers that you've gotta know?  Not ripping on them, just ignorant to how they're used.
    It's the same as with 60 %, but with an embedded digit/punctuation layer. Usability depends on what software you're using and how.

    Personally, I can't really use even ordinary 60% keyboards, but if it had a bunch of easily accessible modifiers, I'd be happy with a 40% board (with the modifiers ideally in thumb clusters or in place of number row).

    I use Emacs (or UIs with similar bindings) a lot, and it requires basically just Control, Alt/Meta and the alphanumeric keys (with Shift, obviously). I mean, look at the original HHKB design.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:44:13
    I use Menu, Meta, Ctrl, Right Shift as my arrow cluster on a 60% and it is my favorite placement.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:50:56
    That might work, but I would have to make shift a tap modifier, which gets janky if you need to hold down the up key...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 08:42:41
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:14:16
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:12:38
    Ijkl here. Tried using hjkl, but I started lusting for the blood of Emacs users, so I changed it.

    I use ijkl also, I do not think this is unpopular at all.

    After trying a couple of options, I too have settled on ijkl.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DaveW on Fri, 15 January 2016, 09:59:41
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:14:16
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:12:38
    Ijkl here. Tried using hjkl, but I started lusting for the blood of Emacs users, so I changed it.

    I use ijkl also, I do not think this is unpopular at all.

    Yeah, ijkl is a popular wasd for folks that use their mouse left-handed while gaming (which is really odd to me despite being left-handed myself)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 13:48:59
    Is there a Switch Hitter clone for mac? I feel like it should be in Karabiner, but I can't find it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:51:55
     New question:

    Since I managed to fix the bad soldering job on my Alps board, I am taking another run at a couple of previous hackjobs I've done.
    The image below is NSFL, and shows the enter key position from the back side of a Satan GH60.


    (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/117580/20160115_213903.jpg)


    As you can see, after I botched the switch placement in the middle (the actual ANSI enter key placement) I put two switches in the place where it should be, to try to use the keyboard. That actually works fine, I just hit the far right key on the keyboard (the left key here, under D68) for Enter, and it triggers fine. The right key, under D63 isn't connected, since it's designated as KC_NO in the keymap anyway.

    But now I 'd like to fix it. I'd like to remove the two keys that are there, put a new switch in the botched keyplacement and somehow make the connection work.

    I know this is dirty work, but someone has to do it, and damnit Geekhack, you're the finest cops on the force, so if YOU can't solve this murder, no one can!

    So: Either with a normal (non-SMD) diode or tons and tons of wire, how do I make the connection?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:10:13
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:51:55
    New question:

    Since I managed to fix the bad soldering job on my Alps board, I am taking another run at a couple of previous hackjobs I've done.
    The image below is NSFL, and shows the enter key position from the back side of a Satan GH60.


    Show Image
    (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/117580/20160115_213903.jpg)



    As you can see, after I botched the switch placement in the middle (the actual ANSI enter key placement) I put two switches in the place where it should be, to try to use the keyboard. That actually works fine, I just hit the far right key on the keyboard (the left key here, under D68) for Enter, and it triggers fine. The right key, under D63 isn't connected, since it's designated as KC_NO in the keymap anyway.

    But now I 'd like to fix it. I'd like to remove the two keys that are there, put a new switch in the botched keyplacement and somehow make the connection work.

    I know this is dirty work, but someone has to do it, and damnit Geekhack, you're the finest cops on the force, so if YOU can't solve this murder, no one can!

    So: Either with a normal (non-SMD) diode or tons and tons of wire, how do I make the connection?

    My instinct would be to put the switch in the position where it belongs, and just use short jumper wires to connect the terminals on the switch to the pads where you currently have a switch for enter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:18:51
    Ah, I tried that. Did not work. No idea why... That was the first thing I tried, even before I put in the two other switches...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:18:33
    is it worth dental banding my hhkb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:24:58
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:18:33
    is it worth dental banding my hhkb

    I don't think so. Unless you need it to be super quiet and then I would spend the extra to get silencing rings.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wockytocky on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:29:10
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:18:33
    is it worth dental banding my hhkb

    If you think it would make for a fun learning experience then maybe. Otherwise probably not, HHKBs are already pretty quiet
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 19:23:33
    Quote from: wockytocky on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:29:10
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:18:33
    is it worth dental banding my hhkb

    If you think it would make for a fun learning experience then maybe. Otherwise probably not, HHKBs are already pretty quiet

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:24:58
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:18:33
    is it worth dental banding my hhkb

    I don't think so. Unless you need it to be super quiet and then I would spend the extra to get silencing rings.
    oh ok, does the shorter switch throw feel weird?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 January 2016, 19:25:40
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 19:23:33
    Quote from: wockytocky on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:29:10
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:18:33
    is it worth dental banding my hhkb

    If you think it would make for a fun learning experience then maybe. Otherwise probably not, HHKBs are already pretty quiet

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:24:58
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:18:33
    is it worth dental banding my hhkb

    I don't think so. Unless you need it to be super quiet and then I would spend the extra to get silencing rings.
    oh ok, does the shorter switch throw feel weird?

    That's one of those personnel preference things.

    Honestly I'm too lazy to mod Topre anymore.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 15 January 2016, 20:03:32
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 07:12:38
    Ijkl here. Tried using hjkl, but I started lusting for the blood of Emacs users, so I changed it.

    See, I use right shift as a psudo-modifier with AutoHotKey. Pretty much the entire left hand side of the board is bound to different navigation controls.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Fri, 15 January 2016, 22:23:05
    Are there any HHKB style 60% plates still available somewhere out there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 15 January 2016, 23:01:02
    Quote from: dndliomx on Fri, 15 January 2016, 22:23:05
    Are there any HHKB style 60% plates still available somewhere out there.

    You can specify an HHKB style bottom row on the new RGB Diffuser case @ Winkeyless (http://winkeyless.kr/product/rgb-diffuser-with-aluminum-plate/). Select B.face and click the checkbox for "Show Layout Options" then the option is under "B.face space row".

    I'm sure there's others too, but this was the first one that I could think of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 15 January 2016, 23:21:01
    Is it just me, or does PBT feel better than ABS for those with oily/sweaty fingers? I know PBT resists the oil better (or something along those lines) and ABS has a smoother/slicker feel by default.

    How do you clean keycaps? Just dunk them in a water bath? Does the plastic type matter for cleaning method?

    I know SA PBT caps aren't out yet, but has there been any more discussion about it? I like the profile, but PBT seems to be what I have to go with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 15 January 2016, 23:46:47
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 15 January 2016, 23:21:01
    Is it just me, or does PBT feel better than ABS for those with oily/sweaty fingers? I know PBT resists the oil better (or something along those lines) and ABS has a smoother/slicker feel by default.

    How do you clean keycaps? Just dunk them in a water bath? Does the plastic type matter for cleaning method?

    I know SA PBT caps aren't out yet, but has there been any more discussion about it? I like the profile, but PBT seems to be what I have to go with.

    For cleaning, PBT vs ABS, won't make a difference. Mix a little soapy water and you should be good.
    I tend to agree with you about the feel of PBT being much better than ABS, but I love the SA profile... so I just deal with it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 15 January 2016, 23:54:43
    I like PBT, I only want a good set of PBT for ALPS switches! Tai-Ho makes two sets of ABS keycaps for ALPS and I have heard Matias was working on some PBT sets.

    Only way to get PBT for ALPS is to buy an Apple Extended Keyboard but not all of the keys work and you have to deal with that strange font that won't match the rest of the keys. Some of the SiG granite keyboards also have good PBT keycaps but they can be very expensive. Plus you will basically have a useless keyboard since it uses a proprietary connector, which you either have to buy a hard to find and expensive adapter or make one yourself.

    I recently saw a craigslist posting that had a very yellowed Focus FK-2001 but for some reason all of the keycaps were still perfectly white, extremely odd.

    Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 15 January 2016, 23:46:47
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 15 January 2016, 23:21:01
    Is it just me, or does PBT feel better than ABS for those with oily/sweaty fingers? I know PBT resists the oil better (or something along those lines) and ABS has a smoother/slicker feel by default.

    How do you clean keycaps? Just dunk them in a water bath? Does the plastic type matter for cleaning method?

    I know SA PBT caps aren't out yet, but has there been any more discussion about it? I like the profile, but PBT seems to be what I have to go with.

    Original Formula Mr. Clean or Denture Tabs work quite well. Mr. Clean makes the keycaps smell like lemon!

    For cleaning, PBT vs ABS, won't make a difference. Mix a little soapy water and you should be good.
    I tend to agree with you about the feel of PBT being much better than ABS, but I love the SA profile... so I just deal with it.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 16 January 2016, 02:36:17
    For anyone knowledgeable on Model Ms:

    Do they all come with green legends on the Alt keys? I want to get two Alt keys with the black legends but don't want Unicomp ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sat, 16 January 2016, 05:42:03
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 16 January 2016, 02:36:17
    For anyone knowledgeable on Model Ms:

    Do they all come with green legends on the Alt keys? I want to get two Alt keys with the black legends but don't want Unicomp ones.
    edit: ClickyKeyboards' Lexmark Model M (UK) with a black Alt key (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11067/subcatid/0/id/101770).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 07:05:52
    PBT doesn't yellow over time like ABS tends to. The Apple mechs are a good and cheap source of PBT but they are not the only vintage boards that have Alps PBT. I found a Qtronix (now iOne) that has dye sub or lasered PBT Alps. I know other boards with PBT Alps exist as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sat, 16 January 2016, 10:37:09
    Just a heads up on alps caps from the AEK II though.  The space bar is ABS and most times are yellow to some degree that it is noticable from the other caps, and the F key row caps are rotated 90°.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:25:49
    How can I switch the springs in my WASD V2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 16 January 2016, 14:00:58
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:25:49
    How can I switch the springs in my WASD V2?

    You'll have to de-solder the switches and take them out of the plate to open them up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:02:25
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 16 January 2016, 14:00:58
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:25:49
    How can I switch the springs in my WASD V2?

    You'll have to de-solder the switches and take them out of the plate to open them up.

    **** that
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:44:48
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:02:25
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 16 January 2016, 14:00:58
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:25:49
    How can I switch the springs in my WASD V2?

    You'll have to de-solder the switches and take them out of the plate to open them up.

    **** that

    Unless they're PCB mount or the plate has notches for switch top opening, you'll always have to desolder to be able to open switches
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:56:27
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:44:48
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:02:25
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 16 January 2016, 14:00:58
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:25:49
    How can I switch the springs in my WASD V2?

    You'll have to de-solder the switches and take them out of the plate to open them up.

    **** that

    Unless they're PCB mount or the plate has notches for switch top opening, you'll always have to desolder to be able to open switches

    I don't think the WASD boards are that high tech to support switch top opening as of now, never had one myself though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:57:20
    Quote from: Steezus on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:56:27
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:44:48
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:02:25
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 16 January 2016, 14:00:58
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:25:49
    How can I switch the springs in my WASD V2?

    You'll have to de-solder the switches and take them out of the plate to open them up.

    **** that

    Unless they're PCB mount or the plate has notches for switch top opening, you'll always have to desolder to be able to open switches

    I don't think the WASD boards are that high tech to support switch top opening as of now, never had one myself though.

    They don't, no stock boards that I've seen do
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 16 January 2016, 16:09:32
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:57:20
    Quote from: Steezus on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:56:27
    I don't think the WASD boards are that high tech to support switch top opening as of now, never had one myself though.
    They don't, no stock boards that I've seen do

    +1 never seen a stock board support switch top removal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sat, 16 January 2016, 16:55:32
    Actually, it's perfectly possible with Alps SKCM (and Matias too, I imagine), but yeah, MX-compatible boards with a plate aren't like that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sat, 16 January 2016, 17:14:38
    Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 15 January 2016, 23:01:02
    Quote from: dndliomx on Fri, 15 January 2016, 22:23:05
    Are there any HHKB style 60% plates still available somewhere out there.

    You can specify an HHKB style bottom row on the new RGB Diffuser case @ Winkeyless (http://winkeyless.kr/product/rgb-diffuser-with-aluminum-plate/). Select B.face and click the checkbox for "Show Layout Options" then the option is under "B.face space row".

    I'm sure there's others too, but this was the first one that I could think of.

    Thanks I'll check it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 18:53:33
    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:44:48
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:02:25
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 16 January 2016, 14:00:58
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:25:49
    How can I switch the springs in my WASD V2?

    You'll have to de-solder the switches and take them out of the plate to open them up.

    **** that

    Unless they're PCB mount or the plate has notches for switch top opening, you'll always have to desolder to be able to open switches

    That's what I presumed, just wanted to check before disappointment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 19:08:05
    Anyone know if the V80 Alps has the same mounting points as the V80 MX? If so, is the V80 compatible with TKL aluminum cases? I'm not sure which case but I know I've seen one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 16 January 2016, 21:10:15
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 19:08:05
    Anyone know if the V80 Alps has the same mounting points as the V80 MX? If so, is the V80 compatible with TKL aluminum cases? I'm not sure which case but I know I've seen one.
    Been wondering this myself.  When Mechanicalkeyboards.com gets their new shipment of TEX 80%, you can ask them to see if a V80 PCB will fit into one of the cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 16 January 2016, 22:41:47
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 16 January 2016, 22:59:37
    Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 16 January 2016, 02:36:17
    For anyone knowledgeable on Model Ms:

    Do they all come with green legends on the Alt keys? I want to get two Alt keys with the black legends but don't want Unicomp ones.

    I have various combinations of dark green, light green and black Alt keys on my Model Ms.

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 17 January 2016, 04:45:20
    Know any DSA sets that come with a " |\ "  1U?
    Retro is one, Granite is one...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 January 2016, 09:23:39
    Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 16 January 2016, 22:59:37

    I have various combinations of dark green, light green and black Alt keys on my Model Ms.


    That dark green one looks great. I think all the green ones I have gotten have been the wimpy tone which looks lame.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:40:37
    What is the dimension for the width of the barrel plate on a 4704 F107?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:57:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:40:37
    What is the dimension for the width of the barrel plate on a 4704 F107?


    Sorry, but even though ""Great minds crawl in the same sewer"  Uncle Rich" I just carefully boxed up and stored away my F-107 this afternoon after letting HoffmanMyster and r1n3 fondle it last week.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:04:46
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:57:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:40:37
    What is the dimension for the width of the barrel plate on a 4704 F107?


    Sorry, but even though ""Great minds crawl in the same sewer"  Uncle Rich" I just carefully boxed up and stored away my F-107 this afternoon after letting HoffmanMyster and r1n3 fondle it last week.

    Doesn't need to be exact, hell overall width of the whole keyboard will be fine.  Making a Backer board fr cutting mats and want to be wide enough for anything and the F107 is the widest F I can think of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:09:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:04:46
    Doesn't need to be exact, hell overall width of the whole keyboard will be fine. 

    22" x 9" should handle any of the conventional ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:14:59
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:09:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:04:46
    Doesn't need to be exact, hell overall width of the whole keyboard will be fine. 

    22" x 9" should handle any of the conventional ones.

    Thanks fohat

    I am making stencils right now, just don't have a F107, have AT, XT, Xtant, Unsaver and 122. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:16:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:04:46
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:57:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:40:37
    What is the dimension for the width of the barrel plate on a 4704 F107?


    Sorry, but even though ""Great minds crawl in the same sewer"  Uncle Rich" I just carefully boxed up and stored away my F-107 this afternoon after letting HoffmanMyster and r1n3 fondle it last week.

    Doesn't need to be exact, hell overall width of the whole keyboard will be fine.  Making a Backer board fr cutting mats and want to be wide enough for anything and the F107 is the widest F I can think of.

    EDIT: Centimetres dam it, not millimetres

    I just measured my barrel plate and got about 55mm x 13 mm.

    PS FU imperial measurment
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:22:27
    Quote from: fanpeople on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:16:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:04:46
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:57:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:40:37
    What is the dimension for the width of the barrel plate on a 4704 F107?


    Sorry, but even though ""Great minds crawl in the same sewer"  Uncle Rich" I just carefully boxed up and stored away my F-107 this afternoon after letting HoffmanMyster and r1n3 fondle it last week.

    Doesn't need to be exact, hell overall width of the whole keyboard will be fine.  Making a Backer board fr cutting mats and want to be wide enough for anything and the F107 is the widest F I can think of.

    I just measured my barrel plate and got about 55mm x 13 mm.

    PS FU imperial measurment

    You sure that's not cm?  Little over 2 inches by half inch seems a bit small for a full size layout
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:32:43
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:22:27
    Quote from: fanpeople on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:16:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:04:46
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:57:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:40:37
    What is the dimension for the width of the barrel plate on a 4704 F107?


    Sorry, but even though ""Great minds crawl in the same sewer"  Uncle Rich" I just carefully boxed up and stored away my F-107 this afternoon after letting HoffmanMyster and r1n3 fondle it last week.

    Doesn't need to be exact, hell overall width of the whole keyboard will be fine.  Making a Backer board fr cutting mats and want to be wide enough for anything and the F107 is the widest F I can think of.

    I just measured my barrel plate and got about 55mm x 13 mm.

    PS FU imperial measurment

    You sure that's not cm?  Little over 2 inches by half inch seems a bit small for a full size layout

    Yeah cm was the intended measurement, I just woke and have not coffeed this morning.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:35:15
    Quote from: fanpeople on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:32:43
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:22:27
    Quote from: fanpeople on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:16:17
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:04:46
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:57:09
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 17 January 2016, 16:40:37
    What is the dimension for the width of the barrel plate on a 4704 F107?


    Sorry, but even though ""Great minds crawl in the same sewer"  Uncle Rich" I just carefully boxed up and stored away my F-107 this afternoon after letting HoffmanMyster and r1n3 fondle it last week.

    Doesn't need to be exact, hell overall width of the whole keyboard will be fine.  Making a Backer board fr cutting mats and want to be wide enough for anything and the F107 is the widest F I can think of.

    I just measured my barrel plate and got about 55mm x 13 mm.

    PS FU imperial measurment

    You sure that's not cm?  Little over 2 inches by half inch seems a bit small for a full size layout

    Yeah cm was the intended measurement, I just woke and have not coffeed this morning.

    I feel the pain
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derb2k2 on Mon, 18 January 2016, 09:34:05
    anyone with a RF 23U know if it has a metal plate? I'd imagine it does and from the graphic it seems like it does but I want to confirm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 18 January 2016, 09:44:40
    Anyone know if there are meetups in Belgium/The Netherlands? Have yet to find fellow countrymen here and only know a few that share the hobby.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 January 2016, 10:24:56
    Quote from: derb2k2 on Mon, 18 January 2016, 09:34:05
    anyone with a RF 23U know if it has a metal plate? I'd imagine it does and from the graphic it seems like it does but I want to confirm.
    Yes it does.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 18 January 2016, 19:55:31
    I found a bottle of this Treadmill Track Lubricant and it says its 100% silicone, could I use this to lube my switches?

    It's quite runny, I would say it's the consistency of Elmer's glue
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Mon, 18 January 2016, 19:57:54
    Quote from: klennkellon on Mon, 18 January 2016, 19:55:31
    I found a bottle of this Treadmill Track Lubricant and it says its 100% silicone, could I use this to lube my switches?

    It's quite runny, I would say it's the consistency of Elmer's glue

    Ehhh it's generally not recommended to try any old lube in switches. One reason being that you can't really tell how it will react with the housing of the switches. A bottle of Krytox or the Geekhacker's lube that Zeal sells is pretty cheap, I'd recommend just picking up one of them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 18 January 2016, 20:57:52
    Does anyone know of a good small-scale anodizing shop that can take long-distance orders (ie, mail-in)?

    I really want to get my Lightpad anodized to be a nice red color to match my Octagon v1 and my Hammer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:02:47
    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 18 January 2016, 20:57:52
    Does anyone know of a good small-scale anodizing shop that can take long-distance orders (ie, mail-in)?

    I really want to get my Lightpad anodized to be a nice red color to match my Octagon v1 and my Hammer.

    I'm investigating a place in my area (for my own needs).  If it goes well and you don't have any leads by that time, I will let you know.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:07:56
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:02:47
    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 18 January 2016, 20:57:52
    Does anyone know of a good small-scale anodizing shop that can take long-distance orders (ie, mail-in)?

    I really want to get my Lightpad anodized to be a nice red color to match my Octagon v1 and my Hammer.

    I'm investigating a place in my area (for my own needs).  If it goes well and you don't have any leads by that time, I will let you know.  :thumb:

    I too am looking into a local shop for upcoming projects but I still have some more steps to do before I contact a shop. Will let you know if there is any success.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:53:15
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:02:47
    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 18 January 2016, 20:57:52
    Does anyone know of a good small-scale anodizing shop that can take long-distance orders (ie, mail-in)?

    I really want to get my Lightpad anodized to be a nice red color to match my Octagon v1 and my Hammer.

    I'm investigating a place in my area (for my own needs).  If it goes well and you don't have any leads by that time, I will let you know.  :thumb:

    Quote from: Steezus on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:07:56
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:02:47
    Quote from: E3E on Mon, 18 January 2016, 20:57:52
    Does anyone know of a good small-scale anodizing shop that can take long-distance orders (ie, mail-in)?

    I really want to get my Lightpad anodized to be a nice red color to match my Octagon v1 and my Hammer.

    I'm investigating a place in my area (for my own needs).  If it goes well and you don't have any leads by that time, I will let you know.  :thumb:

    I too am looking into a local shop for upcoming projects but I still have some more steps to do before I contact a shop. Will let you know if there is any success.

    Thanks guys, looking forward to hearing the outcome here! Yeah, finding a local shop might be the most immediately convenient, hmm. It'd be nice if a GB  could be run  for anodizing services, though that's far more complicated than most typical GBs with size variation and all the prep work for each board and such.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 18 January 2016, 22:09:29
    Also keep in mind that color can vary due to unforseen circumstances.  Getting close isn't that hard but color matching is next to impossible.  Even long runs of the same parts can vary color from the beginning to the end of the run.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 19 January 2016, 02:14:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 18 January 2016, 22:09:29
    Also keep in mind that color can vary due to unforseen circumstances.  Getting close isn't that hard but color matching is next to impossible.  Even long runs of the same parts can vary color from the beginning to the end of the run.

    I'm certainly not expecting an exact match to the Octagon or the Hammer. I mean, the Octagon itself has a different sheen than the Hammer does. The Hammer is a very vibrant red to an almost dark cherry red in some angles. The Octagon is a more dull of a red that reminds me of a wine red. It's got more pink tones to it and is more flat.

    As long as I can get a nice red color that's more on the vibrant end of the spectrum, I'd be happy!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:43:42
    I just came across the enabler pcb (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57511.0). I'm slowly starting to think about building my own keyboard and will probably not be using a pcb (depending on the layout I choose). Are these things still recommendable? They look really convenient. Or would hand wiring be better?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:48:55
    Probably better than handwired, yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:49:37
    Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:48:14
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:43:42
    I just came across the enabler pcb (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57511.0). I'm slowly starting to think about building my own keyboard and will probably not be using a pcb (depending on the layout I choose). Are these things still recommendable? They look really convenient. Or would hand wiring be better?

    Hand wiring is easier unless you want LEDs.  With LEDs the legs are attached to anything fixed, so this gives you something to actually attach them to.  The Enablers are also sized so that the PCBs can be soldered to the switch, LED, resistor, and diode soldered in, and then put the switch in the plate.  Works this way for both MX and Alps.  Obviously, can't do this with the PCB mount stab versions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:37:28
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:49:37
    Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.
    Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Tue, 19 January 2016, 11:22:07
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:37:28
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:49:37
    Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.
    Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.

    Is there a sticker on the back? Perhaps you need to break the sticker in order to open the back so they can tell because it would probably void the warranty.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:41:00
    Quote from: Steezus on Tue, 19 January 2016, 11:22:07
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:37:28
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:49:37
    Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.
    Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.

    Is there a sticker on the back? Perhaps you need to break the sticker in order to open the back so they can tell because it would probably void the warranty.

    Waaaaaa
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:42:08
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:41:00
    Quote from: Steezus on Tue, 19 January 2016, 11:22:07
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:37:28
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:49:37
    Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.
    Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.

    Is there a sticker on the back? Perhaps you need to break the sticker in order to open the back so they can tell because it would probably void the warranty.

    Waaaaaa

    Should be under the OK sticker. At least that's where the screw is on Filcos.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:42:32
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:41:00
    Quote from: Steezus on Tue, 19 January 2016, 11:22:07
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:37:28
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:49:37
    Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.
    Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.

    Is there a sticker on the back? Perhaps you need to break the sticker in order to open the back so they can tell because it would probably void the warranty.

    Waaaaaa

    Try that sticker that says "Do Not Remove"  they are usually under there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:54:25
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:42:32
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:41:00
    Quote from: Steezus on Tue, 19 January 2016, 11:22:07
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:37:28
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:49:37
    Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.
    Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.

    Is there a sticker on the back? Perhaps you need to break the sticker in order to open the back so they can tell because it would probably void the warranty.

    Waaaaaa

    Try that sticker that says "Do Not Remove"  they are usually under there.

    There is 1. Um.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 15:32:00
    http://imgur.com/a/D2HQI

    Found this but I only have two hands wtf
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 18:57:52
    When will Brian from EK re-stock on 45g RF??

     :( :( :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 19 January 2016, 21:22:23
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 15:32:00
    http://imgur.com/a/D2HQI

    Found this but I only have two hands wtf

    Could you not find any videos on Youtube?

    Quote from: derb2k2 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 18:57:52
    When will Brian from EK re-stock on 45g RF??

     :( :( :(

    Don't think that question can be answered here.  I would email Brian and ask.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 03:41:19
    Hey, I need a little help with my ALPS board.

    They are complicated white alps in a Focus FK-2001.

    I tried lubing a few switches because they felt scratchy, I started with Numlock 7 as a test, it went fine, but when I did 4 the switch has now lost all tactility and feels completely linear.

    I thought it was because I used too much lube, so i wiped it all off and gave it a quick rinse until it didn't feel greasy, and then I put it back, it still feels the same. I have no idea why its doing this. All of the parts are in exactly how they should be. The keys still work fine BTW. I can upload pictures later if needed.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 20 January 2016, 04:43:16
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 03:41:19
    Hey, I need a little help with my ALPS board.

    They are complicated white alps in a Focus FK-2001.

    I tried lubing a few switches because they felt scratchy, I started with Numlock 7 as a test, it went fine, but when I did 4 the switch has now lost all tactility and feels completely linear.

    I thought it was because I used too much lube, so i wiped it all off and gave it a quick rinse until it didn't feel greasy, and then I put it back, it still feels the same. I have no idea why its doing this. All of the parts are in exactly how they should be. The keys still work fine BTW. I can upload pictures later if needed.

    Thanks.
    Nope don't ever lube clicky switches ever. Well there is a guide for it but its really complicated so just don't lube your alps just clean it like in this videos
    Thank you chryos for the videos all courtesy from chyros
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 04:54:16
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 20 January 2016, 04:43:16
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 03:41:19
    Hey, I need a little help with my ALPS board.

    They are complicated white alps in a Focus FK-2001.

    I tried lubing a few switches because they felt scratchy, I started with Numlock 7 as a test, it went fine, but when I did 4 the switch has now lost all tactility and feels completely linear.

    I thought it was because I used too much lube, so i wiped it all off and gave it a quick rinse until it didn't feel greasy, and then I put it back, it still feels the same. I have no idea why its doing this. All of the parts are in exactly how they should be. The keys still work fine BTW. I can upload pictures later if needed.

    Thanks.
    Nope don't ever lube clicky switches ever. Well there is a guide for it but its really complicated so just don't lube your alps just clean it like in this videos
    Thank you chryos for the videos all courtesy from chyros

    That's the video I used to take it apart, all I did was lube the slider, and I cleaned it off so it should still work at least a little!

    After more cleaning and tweaking the tactile leaf, the key has regained a majority of its tactility but with no click. This is so weird.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 20 January 2016, 05:26:46
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 19 January 2016, 21:22:23
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 15:32:00
    http://imgur.com/a/D2HQI

    Found this but I only have two hands wtf

    Could you not find any videos on Youtube?

    Nope
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wockytocky on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:11:31
    Is there an easy way to make an FC660c programmable? Maybe something like Hasu's alternate HHKB controller but for the fc660c?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:19:55
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 04:54:16
    More
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 20 January 2016, 04:43:16
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 03:41:19
    Hey, I need a little help with my ALPS board.

    They are complicated white alps in a Focus FK-2001.

    I tried lubing a few switches because they felt scratchy, I started with Numlock 7 as a test, it went fine, but when I did 4 the switch has now lost all tactility and feels completely linear.

    I thought it was because I used too much lube, so i wiped it all off and gave it a quick rinse until it didn't feel greasy, and then I put it back, it still feels the same. I have no idea why its doing this. All of the parts are in exactly how they should be. The keys still work fine BTW. I can upload pictures later if needed.

    Thanks.
    Nope don't ever lube clicky switches ever. Well there is a guide for it but its really complicated so just don't lube your alps just clean it like in this videos
    Thank you chryos for the videos all courtesy from chyros


    That's the video I used to take it apart, all I did was lube the slider, and I cleaned it off so it should still work at least a little!

    After more cleaning and tweaking the tactile leaf, the key has regained a majority of its tactility but with no click. This is so weird.

    I think there should be two leaves. One makes the clickyness and one provides the contact to the PCB. Do you have both leaves in the switch?

    Quote from: wockytocky on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:11:31
    Is there an easy way to make an FC660c programmable? Maybe something like Hasu's alternate HHKB controller but for the fc660c?

    Maybe this? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0)

    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 20 January 2016, 05:26:46
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Tue, 19 January 2016, 21:22:23
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 15:32:00
    http://imgur.com/a/D2HQI

    Found this but I only have two hands wtf

    Could you not find any videos on Youtube?

    Nope

    So you unscrew the only screw then the case halves are just snap fit together. So you run a credit card or something relatively thin and flexible between the two case halves and kinda lever the snap fits apart. That's how my Filco is and that's how that CODE looks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dgneo on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:22:35
    Quote from: Roibhilin on Fri, 15 January 2016, 16:18:33
    is it worth dental banding my hhkb

    No, but I do recommend a lubing and Silencing Rings: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=silencing+rings&_sacat=0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 20 January 2016, 15:36:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:19:55
    Quote from: wockytocky on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:11:31
    Is there an easy way to make an FC660c programmable? Maybe something like Hasu's alternate HHKB controller but for the fc660c?

    Maybe this? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0)

    +1   Indeed, I believe this is the only option at this time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 20 January 2016, 15:39:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:19:55
    So you unscrew the only screw then the case halves are just snap fit together. So you run a credit card or something relatively thin and flexible between the two case halves and kinda lever the snap fits apart. That's how my Filco is and that's how that CODE looks.

    There's probably a millimeter that I have to lever in, I genuinely can't figure this out
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wockytocky on Wed, 20 January 2016, 16:16:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:19:55


    Quote from: wockytocky on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:11:31
    Is there an easy way to make an FC660c programmable? Maybe something like Hasu's alternate HHKB controller but for the fc660c?

    Maybe this? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0)



    Looks interesting, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 January 2016, 16:23:08
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 20 January 2016, 15:39:30
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:19:55
    So you unscrew the only screw then the case halves are just snap fit together. So you run a credit card or something relatively thin and flexible between the two case halves and kinda lever the snap fits apart. That's how my Filco is and that's how that CODE looks.

    There's probably a millimeter that I have to lever in, I genuinely can't figure this out

    Yes, you'll have to use a little bit of force to get your tool into there. The case halves should have a little give. If they don't give, you haven't removed all the screws yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 16:54:11
    CBA, what was the most difficult case for you to crack into?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 January 2016, 16:56:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 16:54:11
    CBA, what was the most difficult case for you to crack into?

    Photoelectric was kind enough to paint a camo Filco top for my Filco Zero. However, the camo Filco top was slightly smaller than the Zero so I spent ages sanding it down so that it would fit. It's still not perfect and it scares me every time I remove it that it will snap. And it's really hard to get on as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 20 January 2016, 17:20:42
    Did it.

    Took some force and a blunt knife but did it. Thanks Cpt :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 20 January 2016, 18:05:40
    Best way to get purple RF sliders?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Wed, 20 January 2016, 18:08:52
    gonna dremel out some bit from my TEX acrylic case.

    anyone have a suggestion of what dremel bit I should use?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Connly33 on Wed, 20 January 2016, 18:18:42
    Quote from: nmur on Wed, 20 January 2016, 18:08:52
    gonna dremel out some bit from my TEX acrylic case.

    anyone have a suggestion of what dremel bit I should use?

    Just from my experience with PC case modding, if your going to be cutting, either a straight router bit, or a mini saw attachment, depending on what you're doing exactly,  that has a medium teeth per inch count, to fine and it will just melt the acrylic, and not fine enough and it will just tear it up. For grinding corners or ridges down a medium fine planer bit is usually the best.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Wed, 20 January 2016, 18:26:41
    Quote from: Connly33 on Wed, 20 January 2016, 18:18:42
    Quote from: nmur on Wed, 20 January 2016, 18:08:52
    gonna dremel out some bit from my TEX acrylic case.

    anyone have a suggestion of what dremel bit I should use?

    Just from my experience with PC case modding, if your going to be cutting, either a straight router bit, or a mini saw attachment, depending on what you're doing exactly,  that has a medium teeth per inch count, to fine and it will just melt the acrylic, and not fine enough and it will just tear it up. For grinding corners or ridges down a medium fine planer bit is usually the best.

    ah okay thank you

    I'm gonna be removing sections of the support ridges inside the case to allow room for RGB components on the underside of a PCB. so I might be using a combination of cutting and routing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:30:50
    Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:31:36
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:30:50
    Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

    cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:34:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:31:36
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:30:50
    Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

    cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

    Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:38:05
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:34:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:31:36
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:30:50
    Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

    cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

    Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

    Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:43:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:38:05
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:34:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:31:36
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:30:50
    Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

    cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

    Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

    Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.

    That's really interesting

    So are the high prices in Western markets such as the US mostly labor or is it that the accuracy of the machining is significantly better than what's typical in Korea?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:49:16
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:43:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:38:05
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:34:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:31:36
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:30:50
    Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

    cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

    Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

    Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.

    That's really interesting

    So are the high prices in Western markets such as the US mostly labor or is it that the accuracy of the machining is significantly better than what's typical in Korea?

    From what I have seen, both.  Cherry and Alps switches are very forgiving on the tolerances.  A lot of the shops that actually machine (not including water jet and laser) work to tolerances much lower than what these require.  For instance, with surface grinding, it is not uncommon at all to have to work to tolerances of +/-.0002".  Cherry switch tolerances are about 10 times that.  Even tighter tolerances are possibly fairly easily if you are willing to spend the time and money to get there. 

    Hell, I personally did a shaft alignment a month or so ago in the field, with shaft offset and angular missalignment errors of less than .001".  All depends on the tools you have.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 22:04:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:49:16
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:43:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:38:05
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:34:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:31:36
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:30:50
    Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

    cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

    Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

    Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.

    That's really interesting

    So are the high prices in Western markets such as the US mostly labor or is it that the accuracy of the machining is significantly better than what's typical in Korea?

    From what I have seen, both.  Cherry and Alps switches are very forgiving on the tolerances.  A lot of the shops that actually machine (not including water jet and laser) work to tolerances much lower than what these require.  For instance, with surface grinding, it is not uncommon at all to have to work to tolerances of +/-.0002".  Cherry switch tolerances are about 10 times that.  Even tighter tolerances are possibly fairly easily if you are willing to spend the time and money to get there. 

    Hell, I personally did a shaft alignment a month or so ago in the field, with shaft offset and angular missalignment errors of less than .001".  All depends on the tools you have.

    Man that's a ridiculous level of tolerance - is it typical for most US machining shops to work on these incredibly low tolerances?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 20 January 2016, 22:19:23
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 22:04:32
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:49:16
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:43:49
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:38:05
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:34:07
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:31:36
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:30:50
    Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

    cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

    Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

    Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.

    That's really interesting

    So are the high prices in Western markets such as the US mostly labor or is it that the accuracy of the machining is significantly better than what's typical in Korea?

    From what I have seen, both.  Cherry and Alps switches are very forgiving on the tolerances.  A lot of the shops that actually machine (not including water jet and laser) work to tolerances much lower than what these require.  For instance, with surface grinding, it is not uncommon at all to have to work to tolerances of +/-.0002".  Cherry switch tolerances are about 10 times that.  Even tighter tolerances are possibly fairly easily if you are willing to spend the time and money to get there. 

    Hell, I personally did a shaft alignment a month or so ago in the field, with shaft offset and angular missalignment errors of less than .001".  All depends on the tools you have.

    Man that's a ridiculous level of tolerance - is it typical for most US machining shops to work on these incredibly low tolerances?

    All depends what's being machined. A friend of mine works in a tool and die shop (for some reason they also make parts for boat racing) and some of their tolerances are incredibly tight!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 23:43:19
    Can anyone directly compare Matias Click switches with the original Complicated White ALPS for me? I have used my ALPS board enough to think that I like the switches a lot for typing but would like to try something more modern in design.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Wed, 20 January 2016, 23:45:21
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:31:36
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:30:50
    Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

    cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.
    Is labor cheap in South Korea?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 21 January 2016, 01:41:21
    Are there any mass produced flat 60% cases? I have a feeling I would massively prefer a 0 incline keyboard, but it seems like it would be hard to do without going custom, and my piggy bank is not at that point yet.

    I know the Planck is flat, so I'll get to try it in a few weeks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 21 January 2016, 01:49:47
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 21 January 2016, 01:41:21
    Are there any mass produced flat 60% cases? I have a feeling I would massively prefer a 0 incline keyboard, but it seems like it would be hard to do without going custom, and my piggy bank is not at that point yet.

    I know the Planck is flat, so I'll get to try it in a few weeks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 01:51:54
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 21 January 2016, 01:41:21
    Are there any mass produced flat 60% cases? I have a feeling I would massively prefer a 0 incline keyboard, but it seems like it would be hard to do without going custom, and my piggy bank is not at that point yet.

    I know the Planck is flat, so I'll get to try it in a few weeks :)

    I think both the Tex Acrylic and the Tex Aluminum cases would be totally flat as long as you didn't put the feet on the end

    Same thing for the Nerd 60 housing
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 21 January 2016, 01:54:16
    Damn, wish I knew that before splurging on this (slightly cheaper than TEX) case:
    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/60-keyboard-case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 January 2016, 12:49:16
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 23:43:19
    Can anyone directly compare Matias Click switches with the original Complicated White ALPS for me? I have used my ALPS board enough to think that I like the switches a lot for typing but would like to try something more modern in design.

    I find that Complicated Whites are heavier and not as smooth as the Matias Click switches. I prefer Matias Click to Complicated Whites.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 January 2016, 13:12:01
    Slightly on the topic of Korean customs, can anyone help me get quotes there? LeandreN & LSB said they're help but both have been busy :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jd29 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 14:42:34
    Is anyone else getting "Gatekeeper returned an error code: bad_code" when trying to log into keyboard layout editor?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tassadarforaiur on Thu, 21 January 2016, 15:44:01
    Is the gt80 titan keyboard NKRO? All that MSI's website says is "steelseries anti-ghosting"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 17:36:04
    Quote from: tassadarforaiur on Thu, 21 January 2016, 15:44:01
    Is the gt80 titan keyboard NKRO? All that MSI's website says is "steelseries anti-ghosting"

    Check the manual, it might have it there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:36:05
    We're 50 key IBMs made with F internals using the M style case, or did all the F versions have the 4704 style cast case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:41:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:36:05
    We're 50 key IBMs made with F internals using the M style case, or did all the F versions have the 4704 style cast case?

    It was a cast metal plate IIRC
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:43:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:41:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:36:05
    We're 50 key IBMs made with F internals using the M style case, or did all the F versions have the 4704 style cast case?

    It was a cast metal plate IIRC

    Thanks CBA, I am assuming this one is M by the date on the label, but was F internals ever used in the same case?
    http://m.ebay.com/itm/IBM-KEYBOARD-4707-50-KEY-POS-1392560-/172050888228?nav=SEARCH
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:02:44
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 21 January 2016, 01:41:21
    Are there any mass produced flat 60% cases? I have a feeling I would massively prefer a 0 incline keyboard, but it seems like it would be hard to do without going custom, and my piggy bank is not at that point yet.

    I know the Planck is flat, so I'll get to try it in a few weeks :)

    For something cheaper than Tex you could grab this on AliExpress (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/GH60-compact-mechanical-keyboard-anodized-alluminum-case-poker2-golden-case-gaming-keyboard-FACEU-keyboard-metal-case/32573909218.html?spm=2114.10010108.0.209.E8qaI7)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:09:02
    Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:17:39
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:09:02
    Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?

    I only remember seeing it for one OTD (360?), The Cheat, and an attempt at it for TGR which was recent
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:20:25
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:17:39
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:09:02
    Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?

    I only remember seeing it for one OTD (360?), The Cheat, and an attempt at it for TGR which was recent

    Ahh ok - maybe im assuming they were more popular than they actually were

    I guess having a plate that allows for switch opening (without desoldering) kind of negates the need for a half plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:25:37
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:20:25
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:17:39
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:09:02
    Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?

    I only remember seeing it for one OTD (360?), The Cheat, and an attempt at it for TGR which was recent

    Ahh ok - maybe im assuming they were more popular than they actually were

    I guess having a plate that allows for switch opening (without desoldering) kind of negates the need for a half plate?

    Well, the one real effect you get from a half plate is a plate mount feel on the mods and a pcb mount feel on the alphas. Not super useful anyway
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:26:29
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:25:37
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:20:25
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:17:39
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:09:02
    Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?

    I only remember seeing it for one OTD (360?), The Cheat, and an attempt at it for TGR which was recent

    Ahh ok - maybe im assuming they were more popular than they actually were

    I guess having a plate that allows for switch opening (without desoldering) kind of negates the need for a half plate?

    Well, the one real effect you get from a half plate is a plate mount feel on the mods and a pcb mount feel on the alphas. Not super useful anyway

    Ahhh totally forgot about that - thanks :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:27:43
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:20:25
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:17:39
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:09:02
    Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?

    I only remember seeing it for one OTD (360?), The Cheat, and an attempt at it for TGR which was recent

    Ahh ok - maybe im assuming they were more popular than they actually were

    I guess having a plate that allows for switch opening (without desoldering) kind of negates the need for a half plate?

    That's my assumption. Should also give it a good bit of added rigidity over a half plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 22 January 2016, 04:09:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 January 2016, 12:49:16
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 23:43:19
    Can anyone directly compare Matias Click switches with the original Complicated White ALPS for me? I have used my ALPS board enough to think that I like the switches a lot for typing but would like to try something more modern in design.

    I find that Complicated Whites are heavier and not as smooth as the Matias Click switches. I prefer Matias Click to Complicated Whites.

    Thank's for answering. I've been using my FK-2001 with white ALPS for a few days and I like them alright but they feel a little clunky sometimes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 22 January 2016, 04:14:31
    I've been using my first SA keyboard for a few weeks, and the wiggle is starting to annoy me. I know it's completely normal, but is there anything I can do to (literally) fix it? The keyboard already has an alu plate. The case is temporarily plastic, but that shouldn't matter, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 22 January 2016, 05:32:04
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 22 January 2016, 04:09:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 January 2016, 12:49:16
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 20 January 2016, 23:43:19
    Can anyone directly compare Matias Click switches with the original Complicated White ALPS for me? I have used my ALPS board enough to think that I like the switches a lot for typing but would like to try something more modern in design.

    I find that Complicated Whites are heavier and not as smooth as the Matias Click switches. I prefer Matias Click to Complicated Whites.

    Thank's for answering. I've been using my FK-2001 with white ALPS for a few days and I like them alright but they feel a little clunky sometimes.

    I believe I have had six vintage blue Alps boards so far, and still, I haven't been able to try a complicated white Alps board yet, hahaha. Eh.  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 January 2016, 06:37:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:43:51
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:41:31
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:36:05
    We're 50 key IBMs made with F internals using the M style case, or did all the F versions have the 4704 style cast case?

    It was a cast metal plate IIRC

    Thanks CBA, I am assuming this one is M by the date on the label, but was F internals ever used in the same case?
    http://m.ebay.com/itm/IBM-KEYBOARD-4707-50-KEY-POS-1392560-/172050888228?nav=SEARCH

    I'm far from an IBM expert so I'm not sure. All I know is that the 4074 50key that dorkvader showed me had F internals and a cast metal case.

    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 22 January 2016, 04:14:31
    I've been using my first SA keyboard for a few weeks, and the wiggle is starting to annoy me. I know it's completely normal, but is there anything I can do to (literally) fix it? The keyboard already has an alu plate. The case is temporarily plastic, but that shouldn't matter, right?

    You can shim the caps with a bit of plastic. Like tape or a sandwich baggie. That might help.

    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:09:02
    Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?

    Not that popular and I don't think the effect works as well as advertised. I've never tried it myself though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 22 January 2016, 06:37:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 January 2016, 06:37:03
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:09:02
    Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?

    Not that popular and I don't think the effect works as well as advertised. I've never tried it myself though.

    Thanks man
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:05:58
    I just got 1976 and after putting it on a Pok3r I noticed the spacebar sticks quite a bit...sometimes it even just stays down when I press the key slowly.

    Just wondering what the issue could be here. I tried it with a GMK spacebar and it seems to work fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inanis on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:09:34
    Quote from: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:05:58
    I just got 1976 and after putting it on a Pok3r I noticed the spacebar sticks quite a bit...sometimes it even just stays down when I press the key slowly.

    Just wondering what the issue could be here. I tried it with a GMK spacebar and it seems to work fine.
    Check and see if in inside of the spacebar is rubbing against the stabilizer. You might need to shave it down a touch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:10:03
    Quote from: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:05:58
    I just got 1976 and after putting it on a Pok3r I noticed the spacebar sticks quite a bit...sometimes it even just stays down when I press the key slowly.

    Just wondering what the issue could be here. I tried it with a GMK spacebar and it seems to work fine.

    lube fixes this normally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:12:30
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:10:03
    Quote from: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:05:58
    I just got 1976 and after putting it on a Pok3r I noticed the spacebar sticks quite a bit...sometimes it even just stays down when I press the key slowly.

    Just wondering what the issue could be here. I tried it with a GMK spacebar and it seems to work fine.

    lube fixes this normally.

    Quote from: inanis on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:09:34
    Quote from: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:05:58
    I just got 1976 and after putting it on a Pok3r I noticed the spacebar sticks quite a bit...sometimes it even just stays down when I press the key slowly.

    Just wondering what the issue could be here. I tried it with a GMK spacebar and it seems to work fine.
    Check and see if in inside of the spacebar is rubbing against the stabilizer. You might need to shave it down a touch.

    Thanks guys I'll try both of these things when I get home.

    Which part would typically be rubbing against the Cherry stabs? The stem itself, or one of the edges of the spacebar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: inanis on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:14:10
    Quote from: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:12:30
    Quote from: inanis on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:09:34
    Quote from: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:05:58
    I just got 1976 and after putting it on a Pok3r I noticed the spacebar sticks quite a bit...sometimes it even just stays down when I press the key slowly.

    Just wondering what the issue could be here. I tried it with a GMK spacebar and it seems to work fine.
    Check and see if in inside of the spacebar is rubbing against the stabilizer. You might need to shave it down a touch.

    Thanks guys I'll try both of these things when I get home.

    Which part would typically be rubbing against the Cherry stabs? The stem itself, or one of the edges of the spacebar?
    The interior edge of the spacebar. I've taken a nail file to a few keys before. It doesn't take much and there is no visible impact. And a little lube, as Sifo mentioned, may also do the trick.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:16:24
    Quote from: inanis on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:14:10
    Quote from: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:12:30
    Quote from: inanis on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:09:34
    Quote from: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:05:58
    I just got 1976 and after putting it on a Pok3r I noticed the spacebar sticks quite a bit...sometimes it even just stays down when I press the key slowly.

    Just wondering what the issue could be here. I tried it with a GMK spacebar and it seems to work fine.
    Check and see if in inside of the spacebar is rubbing against the stabilizer. You might need to shave it down a touch.

    Thanks guys I'll try both of these things when I get home.

    Which part would typically be rubbing against the Cherry stabs? The stem itself, or one of the edges of the spacebar?
    The interior edge of the spacebar. I've taken a nail file to a few keys before. It doesn't take much and there is no visible impact. And a little lube, as Sifo mentioned, may also do the trick.

    Thanks <3

    Hopefully it's as simple a fix as you guys are suggesting!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Fri, 22 January 2016, 18:41:45
    Desoldering all switches on a WASD V2, swapping springs, stickering, and lubing; is it actually viable or not?

    The key press is too light, but I don't want to damage to contacts whilst desoldering.

    (Just in case) Is the PCB swappable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 18:52:57
    Quote from: xondat on Fri, 22 January 2016, 18:41:45
    Desoldering all switches on a WASD V2, swapping springs, stickering, and lubing; is it actually viable or not?

    The key press is too light, but I don't want to damage to contacts whilst desoldering.

    (Just in case) Is the PCB swappable?

    Viable if you know what you're doing. It will require higher temperature to desolder since factories use lead free, so slightly higher risk of damage.

    PCB is not swappable, is the short answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 22 January 2016, 19:42:18
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:18:51
    Ah, I tried that. Did not work. No idea why... That was the first thing I tried, even before I put in the two other switches...

    I'm a bit late, but did you insulate the terminals when you put them into the "botched" position so they didn't make contact with whatever is left of the botched holes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jixr on Fri, 22 January 2016, 22:03:16
    is the DS5 programable in its RGB features? or its it just set with default profiles?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 22 January 2016, 22:11:04
    Quote from: Jixr on Fri, 22 January 2016, 22:03:16
    is the DS5 programable in its RGB features? or its it just set with default profiles?

    http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/page-en/ducky-shine-5/#g (http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/page-en/ducky-shine-5/#g)

    http://www.duckychannel.net/download/user_manual/shine5_usermanual.pdf (http://www.duckychannel.net/download/user_manual/shine5_usermanual.pdf)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Oxid on Fri, 22 January 2016, 22:49:02
    My HHKB's spacebar sounds weird (clacky instead of thock-y) when I hit it in the middle. Is there a solution?

    Also, if I press it down, and slightly wiggle it forward/backwards, i hear the spring squeaking hardcore.

    Lastly, I have Tri-flow lube (http://bondis.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/TRI-FLOW-Superior-Lubricant-59ml.jpg), that I bought for my X-55 HOTAS, would it be safe to use for an HHKB? Or will it chew through my board/desk/floor/neighbor-beneath-me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 12:36:56
    Quote from: Oxid on Fri, 22 January 2016, 22:49:02
    My HHKB's spacebar sounds weird (clacky instead of thock-y) when I hit it in the middle. Is there a solution?

    Also, if I press it down, and slightly wiggle it forward/backwards, i hear the spring squeaking hardcore.

    Lastly, I have Tri-flow lube (http://bondis.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/TRI-FLOW-Superior-Lubricant-59ml.jpg), that I bought for my X-55 HOTAS, would it be safe to use for an HHKB? Or will it chew through my board/desk/floor/neighbor-beneath-me?

    Have you tried just leaving out the spring? Some people say it feels better
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Sat, 23 January 2016, 15:46:10
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow

    are those N6 or CV color?

    (http://i.imgur.com/94CxFfr.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 15:48:34
    Anyone know what sets in the past have used SP's BBJ color? Or if anyone has a cap in that color/has the color swatch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 23 January 2016, 16:39:22
    Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 23 January 2016, 15:46:10
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow

    are those N6 or CV color?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/94CxFfr.jpg)


    CV.  N6 is a god-awful goldenrod color.


    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 15:48:34
    Anyone know what sets in the past have used SP's BBJ color? Or if anyone has a cap in that color/has the color swatch.

    AFAIK, none have.  I was wanting to do a set with that color in the past since it's such a fantastic color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 16:39:39
    Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 23 January 2016, 15:46:10
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow

    are those N6 or CV color?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/94CxFfr.jpg)


    CV
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 16:47:56
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sat, 23 January 2016, 16:39:22
    Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 23 January 2016, 15:46:10
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_yel_arrow

    are those N6 or CV color?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/94CxFfr.jpg)


    CV.  N6 is a god-awful goldenrod color.


    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 15:48:34
    Anyone know what sets in the past have used SP's BBJ color? Or if anyone has a cap in that color/has the color swatch.

    AFAIK, none have.  I was wanting to do a set with that color in the past since it's such a fantastic color.

    Yeah well that's why I'm doing it now. But I have a surprise I want to get going for people who get in on the GB so I want to see the color :\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Oxid on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:40:11
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 12:36:56
    Have you tried just leaving out the spring? Some people say it feels better

    I'll give that a shot, thanks. Didn't occur to me to try without it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:45:49
    How do get GIFs work for avatars?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:49:08
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:45:49
    How do get GIFs work for avatars?

    Needs to be exact size 150x150 (or smaller) and uploaded via computer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:52:30
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:49:08
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:45:49
    How do get GIFs work for avatars?

    Needs to be exact size 150x150 (or smaller) and uploaded via computer

    <3 :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 24 January 2016, 01:06:12
    Quote from: mobbo on Fri, 22 January 2016, 11:05:58
    I just got 1976 and after putting it on a Pok3r I noticed the spacebar sticks quite a bit...sometimes it even just stays down when I press the key slowly.

    Just wondering what the issue could be here. I tried it with a GMK spacebar and it seems to work fine.

    You could also try putting a small (~1cm2) bit of plastic over the stabilisers before you put the space bar on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 24 January 2016, 01:07:04
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Mon, 18 January 2016, 09:44:40
    Anyone know if there are meetups in Belgium/The Netherlands? Have yet to find fellow countrymen here and only know a few that share the hobby.

    No idea, but you are welcome to create a thread in off topic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=33.0) to see if there is any interest.

    If there is sufficient interest, the mods might even make the thread sticky for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:38:46
    Can someone who have tried vintage black and zeal linear compare the 2 of them?  :thumb
    Are the zeal better or the vintage black better?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:49:28
    If price isn't a factor I'd get Zeal, otherwise vintage blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:50:42
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:49:28
    If price isn't a factor I'd get Zeal, otherwise vintage blacks.
    nah I don't care about the price
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:14:29
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:38:46
    Can someone who have tried vintage black and zeal linear compare the 2 of them?  :thumb
    Are the zeal better or the vintage black better?

    The Zeal linears felt the same to me as the Gateron linears. Unless you really want the custom weighting, I think most people would be happy with Gateron Blacks and Reds. I prefer the Gaterons to Vintage Blacks just because they're easier to source.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:18:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:14:29
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:38:46
    Can someone who have tried vintage black and zeal linear compare the 2 of them?  :thumb
    Are the zeal better or the vintage black better?

    The Zeal linears felt the same to me as the Gateron linears. Unless you really want the custom weighting, I think most people would be happy with Gateron Blacks and Reds. I prefer the Gaterons to Vintage Blacks just because they're easier to source.

    Gateron makes Zeal switches, so feeling the same doesn't really come as a surprise to me.  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:20:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:14:29
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:38:46
    Can someone who have tried vintage black and zeal linear compare the 2 of them?  :thumb
    Are the zeal better or the vintage black better?

    The Zeal linears felt the same to me as the Gateron linears. Unless you really want the custom weighting, I think most people would be happy with Gateron Blacks and Reds. I prefer the Gaterons to Vintage Blacks just because they're easier to source.
    Nah bro I mean like the actual feeling of the switches bro does the vintage black feels better?  :thumb:
    So its like gateron black with gold springs and transparent housing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:22:54
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:18:20
    Gateron makes Zeal switches, so feeling the same doesn't really come as a surprise to me.  :p

    Yeah I guess I shouldve clarified my statement.

    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:20:07
    Nah bro I mean like the actual feeling of the switches bro does the vintage black feels better?  :thumb:
    So its like gateron black with gold springs and transparent housing?

    I'm not following your question now. I think Gaterons feel just as good or better. The Zealio linear are just Gateron black stems with custom springs and a different housing yes.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:25:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:22:54
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:18:20
    Gateron makes Zeal switches, so feeling the same doesn't really come as a surprise to me.  :p

    Yeah I guess I shouldve clarified my statement.

    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:20:07
    Nah bro I mean like the actual feeling of the switches bro does the vintage black feels better?  :thumb:
    So its like gateron black with gold springs and transparent housing?

    I'm not following your question now. I think Gaterons feel just as good or better. The Zealio linear are just Gateron black stems with custom springs and a different housing yes.
    Thank you bro that answer my question  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:07:39
    I stripped 3 screws on my Realforce.. I tried the rubber band method, but no luck. Any tips?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:59:35
    Quote from: mason on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:07:39
    I stripped 3 screws on my Realforce.. I tried the rubber band method, but no luck. Any tips?

    For stripped screw sockets I usually do something like glue a toothpick or matchstick into the hole and then drill it out just smaller than the shaft of the screw.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 24 January 2016, 13:02:47
    Whatever you do, when you get them out, replace them with proper ones made of good metal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:07:14
    Anybody have any experience with both linear green alps and matias linears? How do the matias linears compare to the greens?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:15:50
    I haven't yet tried SKCL Green Alps but I will tomorrow when I fly home. If someone else hasn't answered before then, I'll let you know my experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:56:40
    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:07:14
    Anybody have any experience with both linear green alps and matias linears? How do the matias linears compare to the greens?

    IMO, good condition linear greens are better feeling.  They're the smoothest linear switches I've felt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:11:37
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:59:35
    Quote from: mason on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:07:39
    I stripped 3 screws on my Realforce.. I tried the rubber band method, but no luck. Any tips?

    For stripped screw sockets I usually do something like glue a toothpick or matchstick into the hole and then drill it out just smaller than the shaft of the screw.
    This, or a guitar string, should work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:18:15
    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:07:14
    Anybody have any experience with both linear green alps and matias linears? How do the matias linears compare to the greens?

    The Matias Linears feel *much* lighter than SKCL Greens to me. The Matias linears also have a bit of a click on the downstroke which really threw me off. I much prefer SKCL Greens. The weight is a bit heavier and they're luciously smooth. Some of my favorite Alps switches period. Some more of my thoughts on the Matias Linears can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73438.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:22:50
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:15:50
    I haven't yet tried SKCL Green Alps but I will tomorrow when I fly home. If someone else hasn't answered before then, I'll let you know my experience.

    I'd love to hear you opinion, the more the better :thumb:

    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:56:40

    IMO, good condition linear greens are better feeling.  They're the smoothest linear switches I've felt.

    Sweet thanks for the input! I've been loving linear switches lately and have heard great things about these greens. Going to keep my eyes peeled for a green alps board.

    I've only got one alps pcb and I really hate desoldering so ill probably end up getting both to test side by side in the end :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:29:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:18:15
    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:07:14
    Anybody have any experience with both linear green alps and matias linears? How do the matias linears compare to the greens?

    The Matias Linears feel *much* lighter than SKCL Greens to me. The Matias linears also have a bit of a click on the downstroke which really threw me off. I much prefer SKCL Greens. The weight is a bit heavier and they're luciously smooth. Some of my favorite Alps switches period. Some more of my thoughts on the Matias Linears can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73438.0).

    Oh man they have a click? That's kinda weird for a linear isn't it?

    Thanks for the info probably won't go with the matias now that I know that  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:33:34
    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:22:50
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:15:50
    I haven't yet tried SKCL Green Alps but I will tomorrow when I fly home. If someone else hasn't answered before then, I'll let you know my experience.

    I'd love to hear you opinion, the more the better :thumb:

    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:56:40

    IMO, good condition linear greens are better feeling.  They're the smoothest linear switches I've felt.

    Sweet thanks for the input! I've been loving linear switches lately and have heard great things about these greens. Going to keep my eyes peeled for a green alps board.

    I've only got one alps pcb and I really hate desoldering so ill probably end up getting both to test side by side in the end :/

    You could always try hunting for unicorns and go for SKCL browns. :P They're quite nice; just as smooth as SKCL greens, but heavier around the weight of MX blacks (5g heavier).

    The short travel of Alps makes these linear switches feel incredibly unique compared to anything MX. IMO, the smoothness is not too different from a well-tuned vintage MX black, but the short travel combined with the solidness of the complicated design make it feel very very distinctive.

    The symmetrical design of the SKCL Green and SKCL Brown (and also SKCL Amber which was used as a space bar switch) slider, unlike every other Alps slider. also decreases play and wobble. They are very solid switches!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:35:36
    Browns aren't unicorns.  My tactile greens are though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:36:14
    Quote from: nubbinator on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:35:36
    Browns aren't unicorns.  My tactile greens are though.

    Linear browns (not IBM 5140 tactile browns) are unicorns.

    Prove me wrong. :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:36:28
    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:29:57
    Oh man they have a click? That's kinda weird for a linear isn't it?

    Thanks for the info probably won't go with the matias now that I know that  :thumb:

    They're definitely not supposed to and they might smooth out but when I tested them, they definitely had a slight click. It was really ****ing weird and annoyed me to no end.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:38:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:36:28
    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:29:57
    Oh man they have a click? That's kinda weird for a linear isn't it?

    Thanks for the info probably won't go with the matias now that I know that  :thumb:

    They're definitely not supposed to and they might smooth out but when I tested them, they definitely had a slight click. It was really ****ing weird and annoyed me to no end.

    The contact leaves, at least on SKCL switches and by the nature of the shape in general, have a very very slight tacitlity, but this is when talking about complicated Alps, so I'm not sure about this Matias issue.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:40:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:36:28
    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:29:57
    Oh man they have a click? That's kinda weird for a linear isn't it?

    Thanks for the info probably won't go with the matias now that I know that  :thumb:

    They're definitely not supposed to and they might smooth out but when I tested them, they definitely had a slight click. It was really ****ing weird and annoyed me to no end.

    I didn't have that experience in my V60 before I switched them out. Did you try them out right after release or later on?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 January 2016, 06:31:45
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:40:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:36:28
    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:29:57
    Oh man they have a click? That's kinda weird for a linear isn't it?

    Thanks for the info probably won't go with the matias now that I know that  :thumb:

    They're definitely not supposed to and they might smooth out but when I tested them, they definitely had a slight click. It was really ****ing weird and annoyed me to no end.

    I didn't have that experience in my V60 before I switched them out. Did you try them out right after release or later on?

    I don't know. I tried them in a prototype V80 from KBParadise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 25 January 2016, 07:33:30
    In regards to dye sub keys - is the set up process completely flexible/scalable or are there costs associated with new legends that make doing custom sets prohibitively expensive?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 25 January 2016, 10:36:00
    They just use a stencil, don't they? Easy to make, easy to replace and easy to swap out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 25 January 2016, 18:07:03
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 25 January 2016, 10:36:00
    They just use a stencil, don't they? Easy to make, easy to replace and easy to swap out.

    That's what I thought - the thing that has got me wondering are when they start to combine colours - would it literally be a process of just doing one dye sub after the other?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 25 January 2016, 18:09:02
    I assume so, but I haven't seen the process described that detailed. In fact I don't even know if they dye the caps one at a time or en masse.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 26 January 2016, 02:43:07
    Just for fun, I'm going to pick up a good older rubber dome off Ebay, since they're dirt cheap and I'm curious.

    I've heard the Dell QuietKeys are quite good along with the IBM KB-8923's, are there any other good ones?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jd29 on Tue, 26 January 2016, 03:02:53
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 26 January 2016, 02:43:07
    Just for fun, I'm going to pick up a good older rubber dome off Ebay, since they're dirt cheap and I'm curious.

    I've heard the Dell QuietKeys are quite good along with the IBM KB-8923's, are there any other good ones?

    You might already know this, but make sure that Dell is an RT7D5JTW. There are a lot of old Malaysian Quietkeys on eBay that are no good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 26 January 2016, 03:24:28
    Quote from: jd29 on Tue, 26 January 2016, 03:02:53
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 26 January 2016, 02:43:07
    Just for fun, I'm going to pick up a good older rubber dome off Ebay, since they're dirt cheap and I'm curious.

    I've heard the Dell QuietKeys are quite good along with the IBM KB-8923's, are there any other good ones?

    You might already know this, but make sure that Dell is an RT7D5JTW. There are a lot of old Malaysian Quietkeys on eBay that are no good.

    It is, made in Thailand, from my research this is a good thing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 26 January 2016, 03:39:00
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 26 January 2016, 03:24:28
    Quote from: jd29 on Tue, 26 January 2016, 03:02:53
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 26 January 2016, 02:43:07
    Just for fun, I'm going to pick up a good older rubber dome off Ebay, since they're dirt cheap and I'm curious.

    I've heard the Dell QuietKeys are quite good along with the IBM KB-8923's, are there any other good ones?

    You might already know this, but make sure that Dell is an RT7D5JTW. There are a lot of old Malaysian Quietkeys on eBay that are no good.

    It is, made in Thailand, from my research this is a good thing?
    yep good to go  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 26 January 2016, 14:36:05
    My Zenith Z-150's F7 key seems to be a bit wonky. The keyboard has a toggleable feature to fire a small buzzer on each keypress. When that is turned on, pressing the F7 key will cause a beep. However, SwitchHitter and other keyboard testing software I've tried (as well as general applications) does not register the F7 key as being pressed (on both OSX and Win 7). Every other key works without issue (though OSX doesn't like its NumLock for whatever reason).

    What should I start poking with my multimeter, and how?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 January 2016, 17:11:02
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 26 January 2016, 14:36:05
    My Zenith Z-150's F7 key seems to be a bit wonky. The keyboard has a toggleable feature to fire a small buzzer on each keypress. When that is turned on, pressing the F7 key will cause a beep. However, SwitchHitter and other keyboard testing software I've tried (as well as general applications) does not register the F7 key as being pressed (on both OSX and Win 7). Every other key works without issue (though OSX doesn't like its NumLock for whatever reason).

    What should I start poking with my multimeter, and how?

    I would start by seeing if the switch has connectivity. If the switch doesn't register connectivity at all, I'd resolder the joint. If that doesn't work, I'd try swapping in another switch. I know SKCM Greens are kinda hard to find though so maybe swapping in a switch from like Scroll Lock or some rarely used switch might be ok. And then use Matias replacements until you find another SKCM Green.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 26 January 2016, 21:22:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 January 2016, 17:11:02
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 26 January 2016, 14:36:05
    My Zenith Z-150's F7 key seems to be a bit wonky. The keyboard has a toggleable feature to fire a small buzzer on each keypress. When that is turned on, pressing the F7 key will cause a beep. However, SwitchHitter and other keyboard testing software I've tried (as well as general applications) does not register the F7 key as being pressed (on both OSX and Win 7). Every other key works without issue (though OSX doesn't like its NumLock for whatever reason).

    What should I start poking with my multimeter, and how?

    I would start by seeing if the switch has connectivity. If the switch doesn't register connectivity at all, I'd resolder the joint. If that doesn't work, I'd try swapping in another switch. I know SKCM Greens are kinda hard to find though so maybe swapping in a switch from like Scroll Lock or some rarely used switch might be ok. And then use Matias replacements until you find another SKCM Green.

    Switch is totally fine, manually bridged the connection between the two leads, same thing happens. Some portion of the board is registering the key as pressed, as it fires the beeper. I've visually inspected the components around that switch and the circuits running to/from the switch and there doesn't appear to be anything damaged or improperly soldered. I'm just stumped that it's firing the beeper but not sending the scancode.

    Guess I need to examine the matrix more carefully? I have to imagine the issue lies somewhere in the circuit for the single switch, as no surrounding switches are acting abnormal, and there's no other funny behavior from the board. It's a single-layer PCB too, so I suppose it's not too difficult to see where things are routed, but I've little experience troubleshooting circuits.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 26 January 2016, 22:25:27
    Has there been any PBT DSA sets with a dye subbed legend on the space bar?  Of course I am referring to SP.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 27 January 2016, 09:55:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 26 January 2016, 22:25:27
    Has there been any PBT DSA sets with a dye subbed legend on the space bar?  Of course I am referring to SP.

    Could be wrong but I'm pretty confident there hasn't been.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 January 2016, 09:58:25
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 26 January 2016, 21:22:50
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 January 2016, 17:11:02
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Tue, 26 January 2016, 14:36:05
    My Zenith Z-150's F7 key seems to be a bit wonky. The keyboard has a toggleable feature to fire a small buzzer on each keypress. When that is turned on, pressing the F7 key will cause a beep. However, SwitchHitter and other keyboard testing software I've tried (as well as general applications) does not register the F7 key as being pressed (on both OSX and Win 7). Every other key works without issue (though OSX doesn't like its NumLock for whatever reason).

    What should I start poking with my multimeter, and how?

    I would start by seeing if the switch has connectivity. If the switch doesn't register connectivity at all, I'd resolder the joint. If that doesn't work, I'd try swapping in another switch. I know SKCM Greens are kinda hard to find though so maybe swapping in a switch from like Scroll Lock or some rarely used switch might be ok. And then use Matias replacements until you find another SKCM Green.

    Switch is totally fine, manually bridged the connection between the two leads, same thing happens. Some portion of the board is registering the key as pressed, as it fires the beeper. I've visually inspected the components around that switch and the circuits running to/from the switch and there doesn't appear to be anything damaged or improperly soldered. I'm just stumped that it's firing the beeper but not sending the scancode.

    Guess I need to examine the matrix more carefully? I have to imagine the issue lies somewhere in the circuit for the single switch, as no surrounding switches are acting abnormal, and there's no other funny behavior from the board. It's a single-layer PCB too, so I suppose it's not too difficult to see where things are routed, but I've little experience troubleshooting circuits.

    Have you tried swapping in a different switch just to see if it's the switch?

    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 26 January 2016, 22:25:27
    Has there been any PBT DSA sets with a dye subbed legend on the space bar?  Of course I am referring to SP.

    I thought the Galaxy Class spacebars did but I can't find a picture of it now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 27 January 2016, 10:09:35
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 January 2016, 09:58:25
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 26 January 2016, 22:25:27
    Has there been any PBT DSA sets with a dye subbed legend on the space bar?  Of course I am referring to SP.
    I thought the Galaxy Class spacebars did but I can't find a picture of it now.
    Only did black or purple
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:15:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 26 January 2016, 22:25:27
    Has there been any PBT DSA sets with a dye subbed legend on the space bar?  Of course I am referring to SP.

    To my knowledge, other than the likes of Ducky and similar, the only custom spacebars were done by JTK in the sophomore GB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:44:32
    Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:15:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 26 January 2016, 22:25:27
    Has there been any PBT DSA sets with a dye subbed legend on the space bar?  Of course I am referring to SP.

    To my knowledge, other than the likes of Ducky and similar, the only custom spacebars were done by JTK in the sophomore GB.

    Yeah, I got in touch with Melissa at SP.  She told me that they are not able to dye sub space bars due to tooling and the shape, they also do not have tooling for dye subbing the skirts on any cap.

    I did ask what the issue with the tooling is regarding space bars, if it was just a work holding/fixtureing issue or if it would require a different machine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:39:33
    Where can I buy 2u Cherry PCB-mounted stabilizers? I know Zeal has some in his store, but I only need two of them and $25 ($10 + $15 shipping) is a little more than I want to spend. The two stores listed in the FAQ also don't have them (from what I could see).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:49:19
    7bit on DT, but he has shipping lag...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:49:25
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:39:33
    Where can I buy 2u Cherry PCB-mounted stabilizers? I know Zeal has some in his store, but I only need two of them and $25 ($10 + $15 shipping) is a little more than I want to spend. The two stores listed in the FAQ also don't have them (from what I could see).

    Does MK.com have them? Cherry Stabilizers have always been a bit tricky to source. I'm always unsure where to grab more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:53:56
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:39:33
    Where can I buy 2u Cherry PCB-mounted stabilizers? I know Zeal has some in his store, but I only need two of them and $25 ($10 + $15 shipping) is a little more than I want to spend. The two stores listed in the FAQ also don't have them (from what I could see).
    I have seen pcb mount stab parts on ebay, maybe check there?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Set-2x-PCB-Mount-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cap-Stabilizers-for-cherry-MX-switch-DIY-/281901857406?hash=item41a2a8fa7e:g:Zb8AAOSwKtlWjAhg


    More
    I know this is not what you are asking, but if you find nothing else, I have some old g80's with pcb mount stabs, and would not mind pulling 2 and sending them to you.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:56:46
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:49:25
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:39:33
    Where can I buy 2u Cherry PCB-mounted stabilizers? I know Zeal has some in his store, but I only need two of them and $25 ($10 + $15 shipping) is a little more than I want to spend. The two stores listed in the FAQ also don't have them (from what I could see).

    Does MK.com have them? Cherry Stabilizers have always been a bit tricky to source. I'm always unsure where to grab more.

    Unfortunately not. Close though!

    Quote from: nickheller on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:53:56
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:39:33
    Where can I buy 2u Cherry PCB-mounted stabilizers? I know Zeal has some in his store, but I only need two of them and $25 ($10 + $15 shipping) is a little more than I want to spend. The two stores listed in the FAQ also don't have them (from what I could see).
    I have seen pcb mount stab parts on ebay, maybe check there?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Set-2x-PCB-Mount-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cap-Stabilizers-for-cherry-MX-switch-DIY-/281901857406?hash=item41a2a8fa7e:g:Zb8AAOSwKtlWjAhg


    More
    I know this is not what you are asking, but if you find nothing else, I have some old g80's with pcb mount stabs, and would not mind pulling 2 and sending them to you.



    I should have checked eBay. Thanks so much! Just double-checking to make sure they're the right size (hard to tell).

    Ehhhhh. Just saw shipping isn't until end of February or early March. :/

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vittra on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:05:51
    Cheapest/simplest path to a keyboard DIY kit still the Phantom? Or should I look elsewhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:18:27
    So, not sure if I am in the right place, but I noticed a "spot" on my gon hhkb, and I can not get it off lol. Anyone have any suggestions?


    (http://i.imgur.com/aMWT9Yn.jpg?3)


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:04:06
    Quote from: Vittra on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:05:51
    Cheapest/simplest path to a keyboard DIY kit still the Phantom? Or should I look elsewhere?
    Yep the phantom is the cheapest way to DIY but still expensive if you buy an alu case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:25:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:44:32
    Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:15:34
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 26 January 2016, 22:25:27
    Has there been any PBT DSA sets with a dye subbed legend on the space bar?  Of course I am referring to SP.

    To my knowledge, other than the likes of Ducky and similar, the only custom spacebars were done by JTK in the sophomore GB.

    Yeah, I got in touch with Melissa at SP.  She told me that they are not able to dye sub space bars due to tooling and the shape, they also do not have tooling for dye subbing the skirts on any cap.

    I did ask what the issue with the tooling is regarding space bars, if it was just a work holding/fixtureing issue or if it would require a different machine.

    Just wanted to follow up on this.  Melissa got back with me on this and said that she talked with production and they don't do it because there is to much risk of warping them even farther.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:26:18
    Quote from: nickheller on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:18:27

    I noticed a "spot" on my gon hhkb, and I can not get it off lol. Anyone have any suggestions?


    I have seen that kind of thing in a lot of places. Unfortunately, I think it is probably a density or texture artifact from the molding process and is intrinsic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:33:32
    Yeah, plastics is surprisingly difficult...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:34:46
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:49:19
    7bit on DT, but he has shipping lag...

    Yeah, it's hard to find these things. Didn't realize they were so hard to get. :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:37:07
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:26:18
    Quote from: nickheller on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:18:27

    I noticed a "spot" on my gon hhkb, and I can not get it off lol. Anyone have any suggestions?


    I have seen that kind of thing in a lot of places. Unfortunately, I think it is probably a density or texture artifact from the molding process and is intrinsic.

    I  guessing aluminum and anodized.  If this is the case it could be something as simple as someone touching the plate without gloves at the wrong point in he process.

    Question of my own.  Is there a deposit anywhere that lists key sizes and rows for standard alternative layouts such as Planck/atomic, jd40, jd45, ergo dox?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:45:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:37:07
    Question of my own.  Is there a deposit anywhere that lists key sizes and rows for standard alternative layouts such as Planck/atomic, jd40, jd45, ergo dox?

    Not that I'm aware of
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:55:27
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:26:18
    Quote from: nickheller on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:18:27

    I noticed a "spot" on my gon hhkb, and I can not get it off lol. Anyone have any suggestions?


    I have seen that kind of thing in a lot of places. Unfortunately, I think it is probably a density or texture artifact from the molding process and is intrinsic.

    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:37:07
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:26:18
    Quote from: nickheller on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:18:27

    I noticed a "spot" on my gon hhkb, and I can not get it off lol. Anyone have any suggestions?


    I have seen that kind of thing in a lot of places. Unfortunately, I think it is probably a density or texture artifact from the molding process and is intrinsic.

    I  guessing aluminum and anodized.  If this is the case it could be something as simple as someone touching the plate without gloves at the wrong point in he process.

    Question of my own.  Is there a deposit anywhere that lists key sizes and rows for standard alternative layouts such as Planck/atomic, jd40, jd45, ergo dox?

    Not really what I was hoping for , thanks for the responses  :(. It is not that bad, but less than ideal.

    And yes, it is anodized aluminum. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:56:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:37:07
    I  guessing aluminum and anodized.

    My F-107 case (some sort of "pot metal") completely clean and raw immediately after a moderately aggressive shot blasting shows dark spots on either side and what looks like spalling along the front bottom bar, but actually all these marks are flat and smooth and cannot be felt with the fingertip.

    I think that these are variations in density introduced when the metal was cast.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 January 2016, 10:03:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:45:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:37:07
    Question of my own.  Is there a deposit anywhere that lists key sizes and rows for standard alternative layouts such as Planck/atomic, jd40, jd45, ergo dox?

    Not that I'm aware of

    (http://imgur.com/hkOiuz4.jpg)


    Here is the JD45 keycap size reference. It can also use 6.00u and 6.25u spacebars.

    The new revision JD40 PCB will support the same sizes and layouts, just with one less column.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:38:31
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:56:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:37:07
    I  guessing aluminum and anodized.

    My F-107 case (some sort of "pot metal") completely clean and raw immediately after a moderately aggressive shot blasting shows dark spots on either side and what looks like spalling along the front bottom bar, but actually all these marks are flat and smooth and cannot be felt with the fingertip.

    I think that these are variations in density introduced when the metal was cast.

    In pictures at least, it lends itself to a sort of classy marbled look; I like it.

    Though it might look far different to the eye in person.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jd29 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:40:16
    If I got some random PBT keycaps and practiced dying them, could I expect HHKB caps to behave roughly the same? Or would the plastic probably be formulated differently enough between manufacturers that I'd get very different results...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:44:41
    Quote from: jd29 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:40:16
    If I got some random PBT keycaps and practiced dying them, could I expect HHKB caps to behave roughly the same? Or would the plastic probably be formulated differently enough between manufacturers that I'd get very different results...

    I see no reason why they wouldn't. You may get better or worse absorption into the plastic, but I don't think it'd be too significant. You could always test just one cap at a time before you ruin a batch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:51:49
    Quote from: E3E on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:38:31

    In pictures at least, it lends itself to a sort of classy marbled look; I like it.

    Though it might look far different to the eye in person.

    The back looked great in that way, but the flaws on the front that I mentioned are obvious and just look ugly rather than cool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:57:26
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:44:41
    Quote from: jd29 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:40:16
    If I got some random PBT keycaps and practiced dying them, could I expect HHKB caps to behave roughly the same? Or would the plastic probably be formulated differently enough between manufacturers that I'd get very different results...

    I see no reason why they wouldn't. You may get better or worse absorption into the plastic, but I don't think it'd be too significant. You could always test just one cap at a time before you ruin a batch.

    I think FLFisherman's got the right idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 28 January 2016, 12:20:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:57:26
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:44:41
    Quote from: jd29 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 11:40:16
    If I got some random PBT keycaps and practiced dying them, could I expect HHKB caps to behave roughly the same? Or would the plastic probably be formulated differently enough between manufacturers that I'd get very different results...

    I see no reason why they wouldn't. You may get better or worse absorption into the plastic, but I don't think it'd be too significant. You could always test just one cap at a time before you ruin a batch.

    I think FLFisherman's got the right idea.

    Just remember that the HHKB spacebar is ABS.  It is dyeable with iDye Poly, but you have to have a really low temp.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jd29 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 12:25:49
    Thanks. I only wanted to do a couple of the caps, but replacement sets are expensive, so I really wouldn't want to mess one up. I'll probably just not mess with them at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 28 January 2016, 12:28:22
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:56:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:37:07
    I  guessing aluminum and anodized.

    My F-107 case (some sort of "pot metal") completely clean and raw immediately after a moderately aggressive shot blasting shows dark spots on either side and what looks like spalling along the front bottom bar, but actually all these marks are flat and smooth and cannot be felt with the fingertip.

    I think that these are variations in density introduced when the metal was cast.

    Part of the reason for the obvious flaws in the cast and not in the gon plates is partly due to the alloy and the shaping process.  I would almost put money on gons plates being 6061 T6.  It is a cheap very readily available grade that machines easily.

    During the forming process, they melt all the stuff to get the alloy to the secret sauce mix for that grade and just open a door on the bottom.  While going through a series of rollers, dies, and cooling chambers, they form the slab of aluminum.  This can be done continuously until they shut the machine off.  Then once it gets down to a certain temp, they shove it through the final forming die with multiple tons of force.  This process aligns the crystalline structure and gives it a grain.  This also has the added benefit of drastically improving the surface finish. 

    The the cases of the 4704 series, almost zero though went into the grade because realistically I'd doesn't matter for the intended purpose.  It just has to get hot enough, and stay hot enough to pour into a mold.  Couple this with uneven mixing, and you are going to have surface appearance issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 28 January 2016, 12:45:10
    I can get an IBM Model M for $58 shipped, very clean looking, is this a good price for one?

    Alternatively, I can get a filthy one with a few keycaps missing for like $38 shipped.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 12:48:06
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 28 January 2016, 12:45:10
    I can get an IBM Model M for $58 shipped, very clean looking, is this a good price for one?

    Alternatively, I can get a filthy one with a few keycaps missing for like $38 shipped.

    Keycaps from Unicomp are $1 or more for spacebars + $6 at least for shipping. Unless you are significantly strapped, buy the clean complete one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 28 January 2016, 13:16:03
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 12:48:06
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 28 January 2016, 12:45:10
    I can get an IBM Model M for $58 shipped, very clean looking, is this a good price for one?

    Alternatively, I can get a filthy one with a few keycaps missing for like $38 shipped.

    Keycaps from Unicomp are $1 or more for spacebars + $6 at least for shipping. Unless you are significantly strapped, buy the clean complete one.

    Thanks for the response.

    Furthermore, the clean one is a fourth gen, does this mean it's significantly lower quality than the older grey label ones? What are some of the differences?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 January 2016, 14:11:54
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 28 January 2016, 13:16:03
    does this mean it's significantly lower quality than the older grey label ones? What are some of the differences?

    Most of us old-timers prefer the older ones, IBM lightened up the weights of various components over time. 1987 and earlier are the heaviest and I particularly like the square aluminum badges better than the plastic oval labels. That said, I have a couple of 1991 beige (aka "black") labels that are perfectly sturdy and solid. There is nothing wrong with the blue labels (I don't know how to calculate "generations") but I do feel that early-1990s are better than late-1990s.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 29 January 2016, 11:23:34
    I see, what about the Unicomps? They are tempting because I like the color schemes and the smaller footprint, plus they will not have the bad rivets like Model M's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 29 January 2016, 12:51:22
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 29 January 2016, 11:23:34
    I see, what about the Unicomps? They are tempting because I like the color schemes and the smaller footprint, plus they will not have the bad rivets like Model M's.

    The Unicomp keyboards are nice keyboards.  I just personally don't care for M.  They are a nice representation of M buckling springs though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:30:00
    Anybody have a good trick to counting MX switch springs?? I've got quite a few different packs but I have no idea how many are in each pack.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:33:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:30:00
    Anybody have a good trick to counting MX switch springs?? I've got quite a few different packs but I have no idea how many are in each pack.

    If you have a good scale try taking the weight of just one spring. Then measure total weight and divide by individual weight to get the total number of springs.

    If your scale isn't sensitive enough use maybe 10 springs as your minimum unit and do it the same weigh. It won't be as accurate, but it's faster than counting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:37:01
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:33:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:30:00
    Anybody have a good trick to counting MX switch springs?? I've got quite a few different packs but I have no idea how many are in each pack.

    If you have a good scale try taking the weight of just one spring. Then measure total weight and divide by individual weight to get the total number of springs.

    If your scale isn't sensitive enough use maybe 10 springs as your minimum unit and do it the same weigh. It won't be as accurate, but it's faster than counting.

    I have a shipping scale but I just tried it and its not even close to being sensitive enough. The entire bag of springs with an index card inside barely registers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:39:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:37:01
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:33:13
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:30:00
    Anybody have a good trick to counting MX switch springs?? I've got quite a few different packs but I have no idea how many are in each pack.

    If you have a good scale try taking the weight of just one spring. Then measure total weight and divide by individual weight to get the total number of springs.

    If your scale isn't sensitive enough use maybe 10 springs as your minimum unit and do it the same weigh. It won't be as accurate, but it's faster than counting.

    I have a shipping scale but I just tried it and its not even close to being sensitive enough. The entire bag of springs with an index card inside barely registers.

    I think you may have to count them all out, unless you want to try measuring by water displacement, if you even can (brain is half off, not sure this would work).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Sat, 30 January 2016, 13:20:20
    is the IBM Model M the only keyboard that uses an SDL cable...??
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 January 2016, 15:38:38
    Quote from: Bucake on Sat, 30 January 2016, 13:20:20
    is the IBM Model M the only keyboard that uses an SDL cable...??

    I believe so.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 31 January 2016, 01:41:25
    Quote from: Bucake on Sat, 30 January 2016, 13:20:20
    is the IBM Model M the only keyboard that uses an SDL cable...??

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shielded_data_link_connector

    Shielded Data Link just seems to be a type of cable, with numerous applications.

    IBM SDL to AT or PS/2 is one application.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 31 January 2016, 02:40:43
    Connector, not cable. Important difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sun, 31 January 2016, 04:41:24
    If I like the sound of White ALPS but like the feel of MX Blues, is there a third option?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sypl on Sun, 31 January 2016, 07:51:45
    What package size (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_integrated_circuit_packaging_types) are the RGB LEDs in the Cherry RGB switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 31 January 2016, 07:55:27
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sun, 31 January 2016, 04:41:24
    If I like the sound of White ALPS but like the feel of MX Blues, is there a third option?
    I don't know man, do you like a higher actuation point? if so, then get an alps bro
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 31 January 2016, 08:26:09
    Can the infinity ergodox uses SKCM alps switches? cause I see that they support the matias one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sun, 31 January 2016, 11:16:23
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 31 January 2016, 08:26:09
    Can the infinity ergodox uses SKCM alps switches? cause I see that they support the matias one

    Of course! The pin spacing is the same. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 11:53:32
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sun, 31 January 2016, 04:41:24
    If I like the sound of White ALPS but like the feel of MX Blues, is there a third option?

    Maybe try SKCM Blues. If you don't like them there isn't much you can do.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:50:10
    Actually, clicky Acer switches may work in a way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 31 January 2016, 13:14:09
    Quote from: davkol on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:50:10
    Actually, clicky Acer switches may work in a way.

    And white SMKs are also very nice, with their MX-mount caps which would be considered a big bonus to many people.
    Unfortunately, I have never seen one without a bigass Enter.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 15:59:15
    Blue SMK "Montereys" are an alternative, as they're almost indistinguishable from the white Cherry mounts. I'm using one now, with an ISO enter. Not that there's anything wrong with big ass - the BAE boards I owned had keys near the bottom for backslash and bar.

    I've seen SMKs called "better MX blues". They're heavier and more tactile. And they sound similar enough to SKCM whites - definitely nothing like Cherries. I'd say they're worth a shot for sure, but be aware there's not much travel after the actuation/release point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 31 January 2016, 17:04:40
    Quote from: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 15:59:15
    Not that there's anything wrong with big ass - the BAE boards I owned had keys near the bottom for backslash and bar.


    I have a lot of trouble typing on boards with 1x Backspace and short Left Shift - apparently I always hit the left end of Backspace and the right side of Left Enter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:19:14
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 31 January 2016, 17:04:40
    Quote from: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 15:59:15
    Not that there's anything wrong with big ass - the BAE boards I owned had keys near the bottom for backslash and bar.


    I have a lot of trouble typing on boards with 1x Backspace and short Left Shift - apparently I always hit the left end of Backspace and the right side of Left Enter.

    I agree, but they're not all bad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74367.0;attach=107983;image) (this was an SMK Cherry mount board). I also had an FK-2001 (http://blog-imgs-46.fc2.com/w/v/v/wvvwww/FK-2001_01.jpg), where the right shift is shortened.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 31 January 2016, 19:08:03
    Quote from: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:19:14

    I agree, but they're not all bad (this was an SMK Cherry mount board).

    I have a Laser keyboard much like that (with a non-glossy beige cable) but the switches are totally different. Mine have white stems and a cylindrical tube around the "+" that the cap mounts to. Also, the entire stem assembly is white. I really can't see much detail but I know that it is not the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 19:47:44
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 31 January 2016, 19:08:03
    Quote from: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:19:14

    I agree, but they're not all bad (this was an SMK Cherry mount board).

    I have a Laser keyboard much like that (with a non-glossy beige cable) but the switches are totally different. Mine have white stems and a cylindrical tube around the "+" that the cap mounts to. Also, the entire stem assembly is white. I really can't see much detail but I know that it is not the same.

    Like this? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74367.0;attach=107985;image)

    Sorry to mislead - my PCB was broken in transit, that's the black mess you saw at the top there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sun, 31 January 2016, 20:25:20
    Quote from: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:19:14
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 31 January 2016, 17:04:40
    Quote from: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 15:59:15
    Not that there's anything wrong with big ass - the BAE boards I owned had keys near the bottom for backslash and bar.


    I have a lot of trouble typing on boards with 1x Backspace and short Left Shift - apparently I always hit the left end of Backspace and the right side of Left Enter.

    I agree, but they're not all bad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74367.0;attach=107983;image) (this was an SMK Cherry mount board). I also had an FK-2001 (http://blog-imgs-46.fc2.com/w/v/v/wvvwww/FK-2001_01.jpg), where the right shift is shortened.
    The FK-2001 I have has a BAE and a normal sized shift key, they make use of the gaps where the Windows key would normally go.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 31 January 2016, 20:41:07
    Quote from: jd29 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 19:47:44
    Like this?

    Yes, that is what mine has. Very nice little keyboard, I always wonder why it receives so little notice and respect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Quackles on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:28:28
    I want to take a Realforce to work. However since I'll be using it a lot at work I don't really want it to get dirty, Whether it's from sweaty hands etc.

    I will try and wash my hands frequently to avoid this. But is hand sanitizer good too? I've read before that it can actually damage the keycaps quicker.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:37:08
    Quote from: Quackles on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:28:28
    I want to take a Realforce to work. However since I'll be using it a lot at work I don't really want it to get dirty, Whether it's from sweaty hands etc.

    I will try and wash my hands frequently to avoid this. But is hand sanitizer good too? I've read before that it can actually damage the keycaps quicker.

    My go to is wipes. For hands and keyboards at work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Quackles on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:43:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:37:08
    Quote from: Quackles on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:28:28
    I want to take a Realforce to work. However since I'll be using it a lot at work I don't really want it to get dirty, Whether it's from sweaty hands etc.

    I will try and wash my hands frequently to avoid this. But is hand sanitizer good too? I've read before that it can actually damage the keycaps quicker.

    My go to is wipes. For hands and keyboards at work.

    Ok thanks. Are these alcohol based wipes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:59:19
    Quote from: Quackles on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:43:56
    Ok thanks. Are these alcohol based wipes?

    Um, I just get hand wipes (http://www.wetones.com/) but baby wipes are fine too. I don't really like alcohol wipes since they don't seem to clean as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Quackles on Sun, 31 January 2016, 22:01:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:59:19
    Quote from: Quackles on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:43:56
    Ok thanks. Are these alcohol based wipes?

    Um, I just get hand wipes (http://www.wetones.com/) but baby wipes are fine too. I don't really like alcohol wipes since they don't seem to clean as well.

    Awesome, thanks for the help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 31 January 2016, 22:19:18
    (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/31/f8f150709f58ed45ade07843a3d82cc8.jpg)

    The four silver circles shown (there are many more not pictured) on the plate seem to be rivets to me with no way of separating the PCB and plate.

    Anybody seen anything like this before?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 01 February 2016, 02:26:01
    are g80-1814 use a vintage clear switches or just modern clear switches? btw its the winkeyless version of g80-1800  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 06:44:18
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 31 January 2016, 22:19:18
    Show Image
    (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/31/f8f150709f58ed45ade07843a3d82cc8.jpg)


    The four silver circles shown (there are many more not pictured) on the plate seem to be rivets to me with no way of separating the PCB and plate.

    Anybody seen anything like this before?

    That's a nice cost cutting measure. I've never seen that but I have seen boards where the cases are ultrasonically welded shut. In order to open them, I'd have to destroy the case.

    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 01 February 2016, 02:26:01
    are g80-1814 use a vintage clear switches or just modern clear switches? btw its the winkeyless version of g80-1800  :thumb:

    Depends on the date code I suppose. And how much usage it's seen. I'd post a picture of the label and ask someone who's really into Cherry like photekq if the know what the date is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 01 February 2016, 13:47:03
    Anyone have any idea what these switches are?

    (http://i.imgur.com/hBD91zh.jpg)

    kinda feel like a magnetic reed switch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 01 February 2016, 14:39:49
    Really basic question:


    Do Matias Click switches have the same housing (or whatever you call the bottom part) as Matias Quiet clicks? I'm asking because I have a board with Matias Click switches that I want to convert to Matias Quiet Click and I was wondering if I could do it without even desoldering.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 14:40:39
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Mon, 01 February 2016, 14:39:49
    Really basic question:


    Do Matias Click switches have the same housing (or whatever you call the bottom part) as Matias Quiet clicks? I'm asking because I have a board with Matias Click switches that I want to convert to Matias Quiet Click and I was wondering if I could do it without even desoldering.

    Yes, I'm like 90% sure they are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 01 February 2016, 16:02:57
    It's the same thing ^

    only difference is the rubber band things and possibly some factory lube.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:29:18
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 01 February 2016, 13:47:03
    Anyone have any idea what these switches are?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hBD91zh.jpg)


    kinda feel like a magnetic reed switch

    No idea but those caps are sweet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:34:54
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:29:18
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 01 February 2016, 13:47:03
    Anyone have any idea what these switches are?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hBD91zh.jpg)


    kinda feel like a magnetic reed switch

    No idea but those caps are sweet.
    Oh yeah they are

    (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/01/dd7ed380a2926471ff2c854304a2fd98.jpg)

    tha thickness
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:42:41
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:34:54
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:29:18
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 01 February 2016, 13:47:03
    Anyone have any idea what these switches are?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hBD91zh.jpg)


    kinda feel like a magnetic reed switch

    No idea but those caps are sweet.
    Oh yeah they are

    Show Image
    (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/01/dd7ed380a2926471ff2c854304a2fd98.jpg)


    tha thickness

    Oh yeah, I like my caps thick
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 01 February 2016, 19:56:18
    Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 01 February 2016, 13:47:03
    Anyone have any idea what these switches are?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/hBD91zh.jpg)


    kinda feel like a magnetic reed switch

    Probably reed or hall effect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TehKitteh on Mon, 01 February 2016, 21:39:27
    Does anyone know where to find novelties for a variety of rows? All the ones I find are for row 4, but my row 4 is taken up with a nyan cat set :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 21:41:16
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Mon, 01 February 2016, 21:39:27
    Does anyone know where to find novelties for a variety of rows? All the ones I find are for row 4, but my row 4 is taken up with a nyan cat set :'(

    They don't really exist. There's some bottom row novelties but in general, things like Row 2 and 3 are rare.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 01 February 2016, 23:00:16
    Does anybody know the types of switches IBM uses in their POS keyboards?

    The POS keyboard we use at work is some type of rubber dome with slider I think, it's really nice to type on. The tactility is actually quite strong and the bottoming out is surprisingly solid. They are also very worn in so they obviously have aged well.

    I won't pop out the cap, but some of the keys are translucent and it's a black cylindrical slider.

    This isn't the same one exactly, but it looks very similar to this one, except it's black.

    http://www.techpartswarehouse.com/media/images/IB-65Y4051_wm.jpg

    Keycaps are also still pretty rough feeling, despite daily heavy use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Mon, 01 February 2016, 23:13:06
    Just to verify before i screw these holes.

    Since the housing cant be swapped on a HHKB I have to screw small holes to fit the modifier keys from a novatouch. correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 02 February 2016, 04:38:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 06:44:18
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 01 February 2016, 02:26:01
    are g80-1814 use a vintage clear switches or just modern clear switches? btw its the winkeyless version of g80-1800  :thumb:

    Depends on the date code I suppose. And how much usage it's seen. I'd post a picture of the label and ask someone who's really into Cherry like photekq if the know what the date is.
    Any update bro?  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:07:01
    Quote from: klennkellon on Mon, 01 February 2016, 23:00:16
    Does anybody know the types of switches IBM uses in their POS keyboards?

    The POS keyboard we use at work is some type of rubber dome with slider I think, it's really nice to type on. The tactility is actually quite strong and the bottoming out is surprisingly solid. They are also very worn in so they obviously have aged well.

    I won't pop out the cap, but some of the keys are translucent and it's a black cylindrical slider.

    This isn't the same one exactly, but it looks very similar to this one, except it's black.

    http://www.techpartswarehouse.com/media/images/IB-65Y4051_wm.jpg

    Keycaps are also still pretty rough feeling, despite daily heavy use.

    Rubber dome over slider

    Quote from: Bromono on Mon, 01 February 2016, 23:13:06
    Just to verify before i screw these holes.

    Since the housing cant be swapped on a HHKB I have to screw small holes to fit the modifier keys from a novatouch. correct?

    I believe so. I'm not a heavy Topre user though.

    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 02 February 2016, 04:38:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 06:44:18
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 01 February 2016, 02:26:01
    are g80-1814 use a vintage clear switches or just modern clear switches? btw its the winkeyless version of g80-1800  :thumb:

    Depends on the date code I suppose. And how much usage it's seen. I'd post a picture of the label and ask someone who's really into Cherry like photekq if the know what the date is.
    Any update bro?  :thumb:

    Lol...did you take a picture like I suggested? Can't help you without the label.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Tue, 02 February 2016, 11:39:10
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 02 February 2016, 04:38:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 06:44:18
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 01 February 2016, 02:26:01
    are g80-1814 use a vintage clear switches or just modern clear switches? btw its the winkeyless version of g80-1800  :thumb:

    Depends on the date code I suppose. And how much usage it's seen. I'd post a picture of the label and ask someone who's really into Cherry like photekq if the know what the date is.
    Any update bro?  :thumb:

    If you are referring to the one that was posted in the Price Check thread, yes it has vintage clears since it was made in 1992.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:12:11
    Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


    http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm (http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm)


    I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:28:23
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:12:11
    Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


    http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm (http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm)


    I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

    It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:01:39
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:28:23
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:12:11
    Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


    http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm (http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm)


    I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

    It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:03:21
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:01:39
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:28:23
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:12:11
    Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


    http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm (http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm)


    I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

    It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

    I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:25:49
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:03:21
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:01:39
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:28:23
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:12:11
    Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


    http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm (http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm)


    I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

    It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

    I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).

    Wow, am I correct in saying that this board costs $60 USD? If so, then for that price I might as well take my chances with whatever G-Axis means... my only fear is that C stands for Cherry and G stands for Gateron, considering the G axis is cheaper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:29:34
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:25:49
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:03:21
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:01:39
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:28:23
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:12:11
    Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


    http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm (http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm)


    I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

    It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

    I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).

    Wow, am I correct in saying that this board costs $60 USD? If so, then for that price I might as well take my chances with whatever G-Axis means... my only fear is that C stands for Cherry and G stands for Gateron, considering the G axis is cheaper.

    The boards are cheap, but shipping may cost a bit. I didn't go through a proxy and it was $22 to ship to the US. I'm not sure if proxies are any cheaper.

    It's possible that G-axis means Gateron. You might be able to contact the vendor and ask for a picture of it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:33:25
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:29:34
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:25:49
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:03:21
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:01:39
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:28:23
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:12:11
    Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


    http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm (http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm)


    I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

    It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

    I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).

    Wow, am I correct in saying that this board costs $60 USD? If so, then for that price I might as well take my chances with whatever G-Axis means... my only fear is that C stands for Cherry and G stands for Gateron, considering the G axis is cheaper.

    The boards are cheap, but shipping may cost a bit. I didn't go through a proxy and it was $22 to ship to the US. I'm not sure if proxies are any cheaper.

    It's possible that G-axis means Gateron. You might be able to contact the vendor and ask for a picture of it.

    Alright, thanks for all the help. I should be able to figure it out from here. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:34:32
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:33:25
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:29:34
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:25:49
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:03:21
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:01:39
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:28:23
    Quote from: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:12:11
    Can someone explain what "C-axis" and G-axis" is referring on this keyboard?


    http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm (http://tw.taobao.com/item/524230545942.htm)


    I'm pretty sure they're referring to switches, but I can't seem to find information on them.

    It's definitely switches, but I'm not sure which kind. I remember the Zhuque keyboards showed the stem color along with the "-axis" name. See if you can find those to use as reference.

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I haven't found a complete description of them, but it seems that "C-axis" is actually cyan axis, meaning blue. Maybe the G stands for green? Anyway, has anyone had experience with Taobao? Is their currency the Yuan? It looks like this might be my next board, as I've been looking for a decent 40%.

    I bought a keyboard from them for a friend. Yuan is the currency. Make sure to go through a proxy since not all vendors on Taobao will ship internationally (I got lucky with this).

    Wow, am I correct in saying that this board costs $60 USD? If so, then for that price I might as well take my chances with whatever G-Axis means... my only fear is that C stands for Cherry and G stands for Gateron, considering the G axis is cheaper.

    The boards are cheap, but shipping may cost a bit. I didn't go through a proxy and it was $22 to ship to the US. I'm not sure if proxies are any cheaper.

    It's possible that G-axis means Gateron. You might be able to contact the vendor and ask for a picture of it.

    Alright, thanks for all the help. I should be able to figure it out from here. :thumb:

    Good luck! Keep me posted. I think this could be a fun little board if it works properly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:52:34
    I use Bhiner, and have been very happy. I've only ordered twice - one for some PCBs (Satan GH60) and one for cheap plastic cases. Both times I paid something like 5 USD to Bhiner and a bit over 20 USD for shipping to Norway. DHL with the PCBs, China Post the cases. PCBs were obviously faster :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 02 February 2016, 17:28:25

    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 02 February 2016, 04:38:33
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 06:44:18
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Mon, 01 February 2016, 02:26:01
    are g80-1814 use a vintage clear switches or just modern clear switches? btw its the winkeyless version of g80-1800  :thumb:

    Depends on the date code I suppose. And how much usage it's seen. I'd post a picture of the label and ask someone who's really into Cherry like photekq if the know what the date is.
    Any update bro?  :thumb:

    Lol...did you take a picture like I suggested? Can't help you without the label.
    [/quote]
    I'm sorry I will ask the seller to post some label  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 20:04:26
    I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TehKitteh on Tue, 02 February 2016, 20:42:56
    Quote from: FLFisherman on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:34:32
    Good luck! Keep me posted. I think this could be a fun little board if it works properly.

    Well, turns out that G-axis did indeed refer to Gateron switches. Helpful tip for anyone purchasing from Taobao in the future. I'm glad I didn't just take a chance on that, because I don't think I would have been as happy with Gaterons  :)). I'll probably buy this board soon, as it looks pretty nifty. Thanks again for the help  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 02 February 2016, 21:58:38
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 20:04:26
    I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?

    I hear a lot about the SKCM blues, I believe they are the complicated blues.  The other one that I believe to be more rare is the tactile browns.  Sharper and larger bump than MX clears.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:10:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 02 February 2016, 21:58:38
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 20:04:26
    I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?

    I hear a lot about the SKCM blues, I believe they are the complicated blues.  The other one that I believe to be more rare is the tactile browns.  Sharper and larger bump than MX clears.

    The rarest of the Alps switches are Alps SKCL (linear) brown and Alps SKCM (tactile) greens.

    Amber and Tac Brown can be found in specific computers that are always around, just expensive most of the time.

    I've got a laptop in the mail, Broadwell 8T, that has SKCL (linear) Cream switches. These are a little less common than Amber and tac Brown, but also have that perk of ALWAYS being in a specific model.

    In otherwards, like with the AEK and Apple Standard Keyboard in relation to orange Alps, IF these more or less readily available models did not exist with these switches, then Orange, Amber, Tac Brown, and Linear Cream would all be very mythical switches.

    -

    What makes blues so frustrating to find is that there are only a small few models of keyboards that are sure to have them, most of which being seldomly seen to boot, and the rest being a gamble and knowing the serial number range to look out for as well as FCC IDs, etc.

    The Leading Edge DC-2014 and NEC APC HE410 (not the HE410E) are the most common ones that I know of that have them for sure. There are more, but these are the most common examples.  Blue alps are scarce compared to most of the other Alps varieties, but even more so, they are desirable, so any time they do come around in the open, they are often snapped up quickly.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:11:08
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:10:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 02 February 2016, 21:58:38
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 20:04:26
    I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?

    I hear a lot about the SKCM blues, I believe they are the complicated blues.  The other one that I believe to be more rare is the tactile browns.  Sharper and larger bump than MX clears.

    The rarest of the Alps switches are Alps SKCL (linear) brown and Alps SKCM (tactile) greens.

    Amber and Tac Brown can be found in specific computers that are always around, just expensive most of the time.

    I've got a laptop in the mail, Broadwell 8T, that has SKCL (linear) Cream switches. These are a little less common than Amber and tac Brown, but also have that perk of ALWAYS being in a specific model.

    In otherwards, like with the AEK in relation to orange Alps, IF these models did not exist with these switches, then Amber, Tac Brown, and Linear Cream would all be very mythical switches.

    So what would be a tactile switch that's solid but also not too difficult to find?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:18:47
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:11:08
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:10:00
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 02 February 2016, 21:58:38
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 20:04:26
    I know questions like this are totally subjective, but what are some of the more overall liked tactile ALPS switches?

    I hear a lot about the SKCM blues, I believe they are the complicated blues.  The other one that I believe to be more rare is the tactile browns.  Sharper and larger bump than MX clears.

    The rarest of the Alps switches are Alps SKCL (linear) brown and Alps SKCM (tactile) greens.

    Amber and Tac Brown can be found in specific computers that are always around, just expensive most of the time.

    I've got a laptop in the mail, Broadwell 8T, that has SKCL (linear) Cream switches. These are a little less common than Amber and tac Brown, but also have that perk of ALWAYS being in a specific model.

    In otherwards, like with the AEK in relation to orange Alps, IF these models did not exist with these switches, then Amber, Tac Brown, and Linear Cream would all be very mythical switches.

    So what would be a tactile switch that's solid but also not too difficult to find?

    I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, it's my favorite tactile switch by far.

    Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

    Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

    It's true that SKCM brown is similar to Topre though. If a Topre switch was made out of solid plastic components instead of cup rubber. It has a very rounded tactility. SKCM Greens are similar here too, but they aren't as heavy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:20:27
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:18:47
    I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, is my favorite tactile switch by far.

    Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

    Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

    Alright, thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:24:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:20:27
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:18:47
    I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, is my favorite tactile switch by far.

    Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

    Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

    Alright, thanks!

    For sure man. :D Definitely show off any Alps builds if you decide to go for some!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:35:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:20:27
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:18:47
    I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, is my favorite tactile switch by far.

    Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

    Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

    Alright, thanks!

    I really like Orange SKCM. I didn't really like Salmon personally but a lot of people do. I think Blacks aren't bad if you clean and lube them. But also don't forget about Matias Quiet Click. I think it's a really underrated switch. I plan on using them in a build this year.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:28:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:35:20
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:20:27
    Quote from: E3E on Tue, 02 February 2016, 22:18:47
    I'd say Alps SKCM Orange is a fantastic switch, and after trying Ambers (the most tactile clicky switch I've tried), and SKCM Brown, is my favorite tactile switch by far.

    Salmon Alps are nice too, but are a little heavier and clunky feeling. I'd say they probably feel the closest to clears out of the tactile switches. Oranges feel very similar to blue alps, though they are a little lighter.

    Both Salmon and Orange can be found in M0115 AEK and M0116 ASK boards.

    Alright, thanks!

    I really like Orange SKCM. I didn't really like Salmon personally but a lot of people do. I think Blacks aren't bad if you clean and lube them. But also don't forget about Matias Quiet Click. I think it's a really underrated switch. I plan on using them in a build this year.
    Oh yea, I always forget about the Matiases. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:53:14
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:55:12
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:56:21
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:55:12

    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe

    Correct for what they say true "vintage" browns, the rest they refer to "old" browns but still a lot better than newer ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:01:48
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:03:40
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:53:14
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:55:12

    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe


    Just make sure to wait and only answer if you're sure of the answer. I seem to recall another member who I won't name who had a habit of spreading misinformation in this thread and it became a tad tiresome to have to correct him constantly. Not that you have a habit of doing this, more just a reminder to everyone
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:05:07
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:03:40
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:53:14
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:55:12

    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe


    Just make sure to wait and only answer if you're sure of the answer. I seem to recall another member who I won't name who had a habit of spreading misinformation in this thread and it became a tad tiresome to have to correct him constantly. Not that you have a habit of doing this, more just a reminder to everyone

    If this information is wrong then why don't you correct it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:05:42
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:01:48

    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:56:21
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:55:12

    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe

    Correct for what they say true "vintage" browns, the rest they refer to "old" browns but still a lot better than newer ones.

    Agreed.  I'm not too picky about that.  I've had small logo mx Blues that felt way better than large logos blues.  It really varies board to board.

    Trust me, some people definitely are :p. But yea, condition is also huge. But I don't really mind for tactile switches whether it's real vintage model or not, as long as they're relatively worn
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:06:39
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:05:07
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:03:40
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:53:14
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:55:12

    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe


    Just make sure to wait and only answer if you're sure of the answer. I seem to recall another member who I won't name who had a habit of spreading misinformation in this thread and it became a tad tiresome to have to correct him constantly. Not that you have a habit of doing this, more just a reminder to everyone

    If this information is wrong then why don't you correct it?

    I will if I see it, but back in the days when TS liked to post on here a ton, it was basically constant corrections. Got a bit tiresome
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:10:30
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:11:47
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:10:30

    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:06:39
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:05:07
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:03:40
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:53:14
    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    It's usually anything pre '92, I know for blacks you can find some younger boards with vintage switches from backstock. I got my set of browns off a NiB g80-11801, they are very smooth imo.

    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:55:12

    Quote from: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:56:39
    What boards besides the G80-5000 have vintage browns in them? Pretty much any Cherry board with them in '94 and 95?

    The purest only says that it's g80-5000 and the g80-1814 compaq one I believe


    Just make sure to wait and only answer if you're sure of the answer. I seem to recall another member who I won't name who had a habit of spreading misinformation in this thread and it became a tad tiresome to have to correct him constantly. Not that you have a habit of doing this, more just a reminder to everyone

    If this information is wrong then why don't you correct it?

    I will if I see it, but back in the days when TS liked to post on here a ton, it was basically constant corrections. Got a bit tiresome

    Okay well when it's said "I believe" take it with a gain of salt.  Ask photekq if you you're feeling it

    I wasn't saying you were wrong. I quoted both the (what I believe to be) right and wrong answer. Sorry if there was some misunderstanding
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:12:29
    I worded the first part wrong however, I meant to say starting in '92, not pre '92. For "vintage" browns it would be '92-'94 and would be the old Kinesis, g80-5000, and g80-1838. You're best chance of finding older browns would be in a g80-11800 series.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:14:24
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:12:29
    I worded the first part wrong however, I meant to say starting in '92, not pre '92. For "vintage" browns it would be '92-'94 and would be the old Kinesis, g80-5000, and g80-1838. You're best chance of finding older browns would be in a g80-11800 series.

    And frankly, and Cherry switches you can find pre-'95 should be sufficiently worn to feel at least decently smooth.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:18:28
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:40:27
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:14:24
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:12:29
    I worded the first part wrong however, I meant to say starting in '92, not pre '92. For "vintage" browns it would be '92-'94 and would be the old Kinesis, g80-5000, and g80-1838. You're best chance of finding older browns would be in a g80-11800 series.

    And frankly, and Cherry switches you can find pre-'95 should be sufficiently worn to feel at least decently smooth.

    Thanks. Yea I would not be terribly worried about "true vintage" status or not, just that they're worn/old enough to not feel like modern MX browns. I'll try to look into a 1838 or 11800 at some point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:47:40
    Some people get really wound up when it comes to finding large logo vs small logo switches, but to be honest, I think the distinction between "vintage" and "old" matters little. I've had a friend of mine say that my worn-in 'old' MX clears were smoother than some "vintage"large logo MX clears that he also had.

    So, in my humble opinion, vintage vs old is more hype than fact, and it's more about the plastics having been worn down. As we all know from typing on shined caps, texture can be quite easily worn down over the span of a decade or less, haha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 00:50:00
    So the Matias Quiet Pro switches are solid switches as far as tactile ALPS go? And what are some of the more common ALPS boards with standard ANSI layouts that one could use to grab a set off of?

    edit: besides AT101s, I'm not really a fan of the legends
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Thu, 04 February 2016, 01:30:51
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 00:50:00
    So the Matias Quiet Pro switches are solid switches as far as tactile ALPS go? And what are some of the more common ALPS boards with standard ANSI layouts that one could use to grab a set off of?

    edit: besides AT101s, I'm not really a fan of the legends

    You do mean the Dell AT101s, right? There's also the SGI Granite, but it has an odd font too.

    Other than that, the Omnikey 101 sometimes comes with an ANSI layout, but if you want something to fit on the typically supported layout for Korean customs (ie, Dell AT101 style or Alps ANSI is I also call it, because the caps are likely Alps manufactured)...

    The next most common boards would be the Acer 6011 and 6311-K the latter has Acer switches but is Alps compatible.  The former is white Alps, but they are somewhat hard to find. Some AT&T boards rebrands are Acers too and have ANSI Alps caps.

    The main distinction of Alps ANSI vs Tai Hao ANSI (which is very rare and I don't know of any other aside from the Omnikey), is that Alps always uses a 1.5u stepped Caps Lock. Tai Hao doesn't use a stepped Caps Lock.

    The IBM P70 is the only Alps compatible board I know of with a 1.25u stepped caps lock, like Cherry, but that's a bit irrelevant here.  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 01:31:38
    Quote from: E3E on Thu, 04 February 2016, 01:30:51
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 00:50:00
    So the Matias Quiet Pro switches are solid switches as far as tactile ALPS go? And what are some of the more common ALPS boards with standard ANSI layouts that one could use to grab a set off of?

    edit: besides AT101s, I'm not really a fan of the legends

    You do mean the Dell AT101s, right? There's also the SGI Granite, but it has an odd font too.

    Other than that, the Omnikey 101 sometimes comes with an ANSI layout, but if you want something to fit on the typically supported layout for Korean customs (ie, Dell AT101 style or Alps ANSI is I also call it, because the caps are likely Alps manufactured)...

    The next most common boards would be the Acer 6011 and 6311-K the latter has Acer switches but is Alps compatible.  The former is white Alps, but they are somewhat hard to find. Some AT&T boards rebrands are Acers too and have ANSI Alps caps.

    The main distinction of Alps ANSI vs Tai Hao ANSI (which is very rare and I don't know of any other aside from the Omnikey), is that Alps always uses a 1.5u stepped Caps Lock. Tai Hao doesn't use a stepped Caps Lock.

    The IBM P70 is the only Alps compatible board I know of with a 1.25u stepped caps lock, like Cherry, but that's a bit irrelevant here.  :p

    Thanks for all the info! :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: thatllbeme on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:48:31
    When pressing down on Gateron switches off-center (ie. on the sides of the keycap rather than the center), there's a bit of a scratchy feeling as it depresses. Would lubing the sides of the slider/stem fix that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:55:32
    Quote from: thatllbeme on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:48:31
    When pressing down on Gateron switches off-center (ie. on the sides of the keycap rather than the center), there's a bit of a scratchy feeling as it depresses. Would lubing the sides of the slider/stem fix that?
    lubing switches is always worth the extra work!  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 04 February 2016, 07:19:23
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:55:32
    Quote from: thatllbeme on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:48:31
    When pressing down on Gateron switches off-center (ie. on the sides of the keycap rather than the center), there's a bit of a scratchy feeling as it depresses. Would lubing the sides of the slider/stem fix that?
    lubing switches is always worth the extra work!  :thumb:
    No it's not, especially if you have to desolder to lube.

    Many times just using the keyboard for a few weeks helps just as much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 04 February 2016, 10:44:02
    You could also pour a can of coke into the keyboard. Won't help with the scratching, but you'll stop noticing it...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 04 February 2016, 11:36:19
    Quote from: hwood34 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 00:50:00
    So the Matias Quiet Pro switches are solid switches as far as tactile ALPS go? And what are some of the more common ALPS boards with standard ANSI layouts that one could use to grab a set off of?

    edit: besides AT101s, I'm not really a fan of the legends

    Don't forget about the V60 and V80 if you're into modern boards. And yes, I really like the Matias Quiet switches. E3E got the vintage boards with a decent layout on lock.

    Edit: Oops, misread the question but I'll leave my reply up anyways. I think it's great to have some modern alps options besides Matias.

    Quote from: thatllbeme on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:48:31
    When pressing down on Gateron switches off-center (ie. on the sides of the keycap rather than the center), there's a bit of a scratchy feeling as it depresses. Would lubing the sides of the slider/stem fix that?
    Lube or wear would help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 19:14:10
    The Apple Extended Keyboard I and II both have standard layouts as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:37:04
    Does anyone have some sort of diagram with the dimensions and screw hole placements of a standard 1800 PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 05 February 2016, 21:30:08
    Cross post from "what did you get in the mail today" since it's more relevant to ask here:


    Whoa, guys... Have you seen this kind of variation in contact leaves?

    This is vintage MX white vs old MX clears

    (http://i.imgur.com/B2vKMui.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/ZCaBtK9.jpg)

    (http://i.imgur.com/K3Rsy8x.jpg)

    I first noticed this when the zealio's contacts were for some reason standing out, then I glanced at the opened vintage MX whites and had a *ding* moment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 02:32:02
    So what sort of LEDs do you use in the Redscarfs for RGB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sat, 06 February 2016, 13:38:07
    https://vid.me/JFeu

    HHKB spacebar makes me sick while on NT its dead silent

    Both silenced by way with ironed landing pads, both lubed and greased on stabs

    Where the ****ing noise comes from?
    I believe its the spacebar steel wire that hits on plastic stab?
    Maybe should i lube more into stab?
    Any advice would be grateful
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:24:17
    Can someone tell me what is the angle of this board :

    -Koala
    -360c
    -LZ FE

    Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 06:35:46
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:24:17
    Can someone tell me what is the angle of this board :

    -Koala
    -360c
    -LZ FE

    Thank you!

    I can't find much. All I found in a quick search is this quote about the Koala (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg2017118#msg2017118).

    Quote from: ajx on Sat, 06 February 2016, 13:38:07
    https://vid.me/JFeu

    HHKB spacebar makes me sick while on NT its dead silent

    Both silenced by way with ironed landing pads, both lubed and greased on stabs

    Where the ****ing noise comes from?
    I believe its the spacebar steel wire that hits on plastic stab?
    Maybe should i lube more into stab?
    Any advice would be grateful
    Thanks

    The most common fix I've heard about spacebar noise is lubing the stabilizers. Other than that, I have no idea since I don't Topre. :(

    Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 02:32:02
    So what sort of LEDs do you use in the Redscarfs for RGB?

    I'd assume SMD RGB LEDs but I couldn't find any information on it at all. Might have to track down an owner to take a picture?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Tue, 09 February 2016, 08:55:27
    I have a Chicony board with a male 5 pin DIN plug. Can't find any converters with female 5 pin DIN on one end. Do I need to mount a new controller (I really hope not!) or is there a simpler solution?

    Oops
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 14:04:19
    Trying to get some LEDs from Mouser.

    What size would I be looking for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:00:26
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 14:04:19
    Trying to get some LEDs from Mouser.

    What size would I be looking for?

    What kind of LEDs you looking for? SMD? In-switch/the ones with legs? And what switches are you putting the LEDs into?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:23:36
    Anyone know what the cheapest source of G80s (any kind) are in the US? On eBay the cheapest is currently $35. I need a Cherry board for a project of mine, but I decided against using the Cooler Master I'd bought.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:46:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:00:26
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 14:04:19
    Trying to get some LEDs from Mouser.

    What size would I be looking for?

    What kind of LEDs you looking for? SMD? In-switch/the ones with legs? And what switches are you putting the LEDs into?

    Switch LEDs to go with a couple Zealio builds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Red October on Tue, 09 February 2016, 17:30:12
    Does anyone know the sizes of the re-legendable keycaps on the IBM 6112884?  I would like to be able to make neat-looking legends for mine with my laser printer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 17:33:25
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:46:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:00:26
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 14:04:19
    Trying to get some LEDs from Mouser.

    What size would I be looking for?

    What kind of LEDs you looking for? SMD? In-switch/the ones with legs? And what switches are you putting the LEDs into?

    Switch LEDs to go with a couple Zealio builds.

    I usually go for 2x3x4 mm LEDs but the Zealio switches will actually fit inswitch RGB LEDs switches. I'm not sure of the sizes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:23:24
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 17:33:25
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:46:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:00:26
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 14:04:19
    Trying to get some LEDs from Mouser.

    What size would I be looking for?

    What kind of LEDs you looking for? SMD? In-switch/the ones with legs? And what switches are you putting the LEDs into?

    Switch LEDs to go with a couple Zealio builds.

    I usually go for 2x3x4 mm LEDs but the Zealio switches will actually fit inswitch RGB LEDs switches. I'm not sure of the sizes.

    Well the board I want to use them on doesn't support in switch RGB LEDs as far as a I know and I heard that 2x3x4mm with Zealios causes a scratching issue with GMK caps but I am not sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:53:16
    What case is this?

    (http://i.imgur.com/RWQTW2O.jpg)

    Mod Note: Woohoo!  My KMAC 2! :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:02:46
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:53:16
    What case is this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RWQTW2O.jpg)

    Kmac 2 cause af that bezel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cryptokey on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:08:39
    How would I go about contributing to the GH wiki?  I have some things to contribute to pre-existing lists, yet when I tried to log in with my GH username, it said that it did not exist so I figure you need some special account or permission. 

    Also, if anybody has any links to a guide for installing Hypersphere silencing rings, that would be awesome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:10:43
    Quote from: cryptokey on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:08:39
    1) How would I go about contributing to the GH wiki?  I have some things to contribute to pre-existing lists, yet when I tried to log in with my GH username, it said that it did not exist so I figure you need some special account or permission. 

    2) Also, if anybody has any links to a guide for installing Hypersphere silencing rings, that would be awesome.

    1) I believe you need to get the moderators to setup an account. I don't really remember how I got access to be honest though. There was a long awaited upgrade and I was part of trying to set up a team with the geekhack staff to spearhead a Wiki overhaul. That never came to fruition and kinda died. I believe the best thing to do is to add to the DT Wiki and keep populating Making Stuff Together with the maker/DIY stuff that GH is into.

    2) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73940.5
    https://deskthority.net/help-f53/silencing-rings-for-topre-rf-or-hhkb-t10051-60.html#p246406

    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:02:46
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:53:16
    What case is this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RWQTW2O.jpg)

    Kmac 2 cause af that bezel?

    I would also guess KMAC 2.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:22:13
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:53:16
    What case is this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RWQTW2O.jpg)


    The winkeys, red plate, and sides make me think it's a KMAC II
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:22:13
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:53:16
    What case is this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RWQTW2O.jpg)


    The winkeys, red plate, and sides make me think it's a KMAC II
    Kmac 2 is so classy!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:38
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:22:13
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:53:16
    What case is this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RWQTW2O.jpg)


    The winkeys, red plate, and sides make me think it's a KMAC II
    Kmac 2 is so classy!

    Definitely, one of my favorite boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:31:47
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:38
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:22:13
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:53:16
    What case is this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RWQTW2O.jpg)


    The winkeys, red plate, and sides make me think it's a KMAC II
    Kmac 2 is so classy!

    Definitely, one of my favorite boards.
    How much did you say for this board? 500$? Ah so classy! It haves its own charms! Not like the other customs!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:32:52
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:31:47
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:38
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:22:13
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:53:16
    What case is this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RWQTW2O.jpg)


    The winkeys, red plate, and sides make me think it's a KMAC II
    Kmac 2 is so classy!

    Definitely, one of my favorite boards.
    How much did you say for this board? 500$? Ah so classy! It haves its own charms! Not like the other customs!

    Yea, somewhere around there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:37:23
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:32:52
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:31:47
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:38
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:01
    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:22:13
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:53:16
    What case is this?

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/RWQTW2O.jpg)


    The winkeys, red plate, and sides make me think it's a KMAC II
    Kmac 2 is so classy!

    Definitely, one of my favorite boards.
    How much did you say for this board? 500$? Ah so classy! It haves its own charms! Not like the other customs!

    Yea, somewhere around there.
    Yes thank you brother!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:40:02
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:02:46
    Kmac 2 cause af that bezel?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:10:43
    I would also guess KMAC 2.

    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:22:13
    The winkeys, red plate, and sides make me think it's a KMAC II

    Thanks for the responses guys! Another KB that I'm about, ohh, 3 years too late to get in on... Still figuring out what my first mech kb should be! Wish me luck as I navigate the 100s of tabs I have open right now.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:43:33
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:40:02
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:02:46
    Kmac 2 cause af that bezel?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:10:43
    I would also guess KMAC 2.

    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:22:13
    The winkeys, red plate, and sides make me think it's a KMAC II

    Thanks for the responses guys! Another KB that I'm about, ohh, 3 years too late to get in on... Still figuring out what my first mech kb should be! Wish me luck as I navigate the 100s of tabs I have open right now.

    Honestly, the KMACs are pretty affordable as far as kustoms go. You could find a KMAC I for sub $400, II for sub $600
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:43:45
    Quote from: Skribbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:40:02
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:02:46
    Kmac 2 cause af that bezel?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:10:43
    I would also guess KMAC 2.

    Quote from: hwood34 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:22:13
    The winkeys, red plate, and sides make me think it's a KMAC II

    Thanks for the responses guys! Another KB that I'm about, ohh, 3 years too late to get in on... Still figuring out what my first mech kb should be! Wish me luck as I navigate the 100s of tabs I have open right now.
    Your best bet is classified tho!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 10 February 2016, 01:55:50
    What keycaps are those on the KMAC?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 02:23:49
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 10 February 2016, 01:55:50
    What keycaps are those on the KMAC?
    Gateron pbt? I see that bro use this on his dge too IIRC
    Or imsto
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JonnyPolygon on Wed, 10 February 2016, 03:38:14
    Damn, glad I decided to check out this thread. It's awesome! Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 10 February 2016, 03:45:40
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 02:23:49
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 10 February 2016, 01:55:50
    What keycaps are those on the KMAC?
    Gateron pbt? I see that bro use this on his dge too IIRC
    Or imsto

    The gats come in 4 shades right? I want the shade that's lighter than this but I might be wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 04:44:42
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 10 February 2016, 03:45:40
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 02:23:49
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 10 February 2016, 01:55:50
    What keycaps are those on the KMAC?
    Gateron pbt? I see that bro use this on his dge too IIRC
    Or imsto

    The gats come in 4 shades right? I want the shade that's lighter than this but I might be wrong.
    I think this one is from geekeys! Check the geekeys website they have the same ones
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Stabilized on Wed, 10 February 2016, 10:22:29
    Just got a Leeku 1800 PCB and wondering if there is any difference between this style of diode:

    (http://static.rapidonline.com/catalogueimages/Product/S47-0910P01WL.jpg)

    And this one that I see most people using on their's:

    (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jpj3tilIaik/maxresdefault.jpg)

    I can get 150 of the first one for £2 and the other one is £6 for the same amount (shipped from farnell.com). Would prefer to go with the former if there is no differences/disadvantages.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 February 2016, 10:35:28
    Quote from: Stabilized on Wed, 10 February 2016, 10:22:29
    Just got a Leeku 1800 PCB and wondering if there is any difference between this style of diode:

    Show Image
    (http://static.rapidonline.com/catalogueimages/Product/S47-0910P01WL.jpg)


    And this one that I see most people using on their's:

    Show Image
    (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jpj3tilIaik/maxresdefault.jpg)


    I can get 150 of the first one for £2 and the other one is £6 for the same amount (shipped from farnell.com). Would prefer to go with the former if there is no differences/disadvantages.

    Thanks!

    I prefer the flat package, because I find them easier to mount. But a diode is a diode. Just use whichever you want. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Stabilized on Wed, 10 February 2016, 10:42:26
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 February 2016, 10:35:28
    Quote from: Stabilized on Wed, 10 February 2016, 10:22:29
    Just got a Leeku 1800 PCB and wondering if there is any difference between this style of diode:

    Show Image
    (http://static.rapidonline.com/catalogueimages/Product/S47-0910P01WL.jpg)


    And this one that I see most people using on their's:

    Show Image
    (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jpj3tilIaik/maxresdefault.jpg)


    I can get 150 of the first one for £2 and the other one is £6 for the same amount (shipped from farnell.com). Would prefer to go with the former if there is no differences/disadvantages.

    Thanks!

    I prefer the flat package, because I find them easier to mount. But a diode is a diode. Just use whichever you want. :)

    Ok I thought as much. Thanks very much! ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Wed, 10 February 2016, 11:47:11
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 February 2016, 10:35:28
    Quote from: Stabilized on Wed, 10 February 2016, 10:22:29
    Just got a Leeku 1800 PCB and wondering if there is any difference between this style of diode:

    Show Image
    (http://static.rapidonline.com/catalogueimages/Product/S47-0910P01WL.jpg)


    And this one that I see most people using on their's:

    Show Image
    (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jpj3tilIaik/maxresdefault.jpg)


    I can get 150 of the first one for £2 and the other one is £6 for the same amount (shipped from farnell.com). Would prefer to go with the former if there is no differences/disadvantages.

    Thanks!

    I prefer the flat package, because I find them easier to mount. But a diode is a diode. Just use whichever you want. :)

    Yeah I definitely prefer the flat diodes as well, last time I used the LL4148 diodes I had to tape one side down and solder the other side or else they'd roll right off.

    (http://i.imgur.com/gHp5YPW.jpg)


    Like Jd said, diodes are diodes. They are just meant to direct the path of the current, allows it to come in one way but not the other. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 12:29:21
    Can anyone think of a reason for a diode to be cylindrical...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 10 February 2016, 12:33:18
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 12:29:21
    Can anyone think of a reason for a diode to be cylindrical...?

    Think it's just the older way to do them
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jd29 on Wed, 10 February 2016, 13:27:19
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 12:29:21
    Can anyone think of a reason for a diode to be cylindrical...?

    Through-hole vs surface mount. If you're doing through-hole you probably don't care if your diode is round or flat, and for a very long time through-hole was dominant. Manufacturing rectangular through-hole diodes might be a little more involved, and cost more, for no good reason.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:29:07
    I have a quick question that I have not been able to find the answer to on my own:
    What qualifies as a post on Geekhack? I've been around here for just a few months and have a post count of 6, but I feel like ived posted more than that, so I guess there is other qualifications for what makes a post. I ask because I might want to make use of the classifieds in the future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: thatllbeme on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:44:12
    So I put one of my customs together again today (had to take it apart because I'm a klutz and wired the Teensy in backwards). One of the keys doesn't register when pressed down normally, but when I put the keyboard on the table upside down it spams the key. Swapping out the spring + stem hasn't helped and the solder connections seem fine. Shorting the switch by putting a wire across both legs doesn't help either, so I'm thinking I'll have to swap out the whole leaf or switch. Am I missing something obvious?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:49:17
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:29:07
    I have a quick question that I have not been able to find the answer to on my own:
    What qualifies as a post on Geekhack? I've been around here for just a few months and have a post count of 6, but I feel like ived posted more than that, so I guess there is other qualifications for what makes a post. I ask because I might want to make use of the classifieds in the future.

    Yay, 7!!! /artificiallyinflatingpostcount
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:51:17
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:29:07
    I have a quick question that I have not been able to find the answer to on my own:
    What qualifies as a post on Geekhack? I've been around here for just a few months and have a post count of 6, but I feel like ived posted more than that, so I guess there is other qualifications for what makes a post. I ask because I might want to make use of the classifieds in the future.

    A post that counts is one that generally contributes something to the forum Threads such as new members, off topic, classifieds, etc. aren't really contributions so they do not count as posts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:52:47
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:49:17
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:29:07
    I have a quick question that I have not been able to find the answer to on my own:
    What qualifies as a post on Geekhack? I've been around here for just a few months and have a post count of 6, but I feel like ived posted more than that, so I guess there is other qualifications for what makes a post. I ask because I might want to make use of the classifieds in the future.

    Yay, 7!!! /artificiallyinflatingpostcount
    Sorry for asking a question on the question thread. I'm not trying to artificially inflate my post coubt, I just want to know why only 6 of my posts are counted. Is that really a problem? If you look at my posts, I'm clearly not a spammer. I don't appreciate your attitude, I'm new man, give me a break.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:58:13
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:51:17
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:29:07
    I have a quick question that I have not been able to find the answer to on my own:
    What qualifies as a post on Geekhack? I've been around here for just a few months and have a post count of 6, but I feel like ived posted more than that, so I guess there is other qualifications for what makes a post. I ask because I might want to make use of the classifieds in the future.

    A post that counts is one that generally contributes something to the forum Threads such as new members, off topic, classifieds, etc. aren't really contributions so they do not count as posts.
    Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you Steezus.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Wed, 10 February 2016, 16:01:26
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:58:13
    Quote from: Steezus on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:51:17
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:29:07
    I have a quick question that I have not been able to find the answer to on my own:
    What qualifies as a post on Geekhack? I've been around here for just a few months and have a post count of 6, but I feel like ived posted more than that, so I guess there is other qualifications for what makes a post. I ask because I might want to make use of the classifieds in the future.

    A post that counts is one that generally contributes something to the forum Threads such as new members, off topic, classifieds, etc. aren't really contributions so they do not count as posts.
    Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you Steezus.

    No problem, if you ever want to see your total post count go to Profile -> Show Posts -> and then skip to the last page and at the very first post there will be a number next to it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 16:27:57
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:52:47
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:49:17
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:29:07
    I have a quick question that I have not been able to find the answer to on my own:
    What qualifies as a post on Geekhack? I've been around here for just a few months and have a post count of 6, but I feel like ived posted more than that, so I guess there is other qualifications for what makes a post. I ask because I might want to make use of the classifieds in the future.

    Yay, 7!!! /artificiallyinflatingpostcount
    Sorry for asking a question on the question thread. I'm not trying to artificially inflate my post coubt, I just want to know why only 6 of my posts are counted. Is that really a problem? If you look at my posts, I'm clearly not a spammer. I don't appreciate your attitude, I'm new man, give me a break.
    It was a joke. Who has an attitude here...?
    You should know that the pattern /doingsomething means that that is what the poster is doing, not a jab at someone else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 16:54:19
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 16:27:57
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:52:47
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:49:17
    Quote from: Otesanek on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:29:07
    I have a quick question that I have not been able to find the answer to on my own:
    What qualifies as a post on Geekhack? I've been around here for just a few months and have a post count of 6, but I feel like ived posted more than that, so I guess there is other qualifications for what makes a post. I ask because I might want to make use of the classifieds in the future.

    Yay, 7!!! /artificiallyinflatingpostcount
    Sorry for asking a question on the question thread. I'm not trying to artificially inflate my post coubt, I just want to know why only 6 of my posts are counted. Is that really a problem? If you look at my posts, I'm clearly not a spammer. I don't appreciate your attitude, I'm new man, give me a break.
    It was a joke. Who has an attitude here...?
    You should know that the pattern /doingsomething means that that is what the poster is doing, not a jab at someone else.
    Oh man, my bad then. Sorry about that. I obviously didn't take it as a joke.
    /walksawayembarrased
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 10 February 2016, 18:23:52
    No worries. Humour is hard to infer in writing as we all know 😊
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 20:50:51
    I got 3 Topre switch testers and the keycaps confused me. The keycap from Type Heaven is supposedly ABS and the other two from Realforce are PBT. The Type Heaven keycap has a nice texture and feels dry(not slippery). It feels very similar to my Vortex PBT caps. On the other hand, the Realforce caps are quite slippery, even more slippery than my ABS caps. Why is this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 21:16:36
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 20:50:51
    I got 3 Topre switch testers and the keycaps confused me. The keycap from Type Heaven is supposedly ABS and the other two from Realforce are PBT. The Type Heaven keycap has a nice texture and feels dry(not slippery). It feels very similar to my Vortex PBT caps. On the other hand, the Realforce caps are quite slippery, even more slippery than my ABS caps. Why is this?
    Different plastic?
    No I mean different factory? Cause they must have a different finishing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 22:01:27
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 21:16:36
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 20:50:51
    I got 3 Topre switch testers and the keycaps confused me. The keycap from Type Heaven is supposedly ABS and the other two from Realforce are PBT. The Type Heaven keycap has a nice texture and feels dry(not slippery). It feels very similar to my Vortex PBT caps. On the other hand, the Realforce caps are quite slippery, even more slippery than my ABS caps. Why is this?
    Different plastic?
    No I mean different factory? Cause they must have a different finishing?
    I don't have other Topre caps, but the two I have are different (one white one black). I thought PBT in general has a dry texture that is somewhat resilient to sweat, but these two does not feel that way. Is my impression on PBT wrong?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 22:07:32
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 22:01:27
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 21:16:36
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 20:50:51
    I got 3 Topre switch testers and the keycaps confused me. The keycap from Type Heaven is supposedly ABS and the other two from Realforce are PBT. The Type Heaven keycap has a nice texture and feels dry(not slippery). It feels very similar to my Vortex PBT caps. On the other hand, the Realforce caps are quite slippery, even more slippery than my ABS caps. Why is this?
    Different plastic?
    No I mean different factory? Cause they must have a different finishing?
    I don't have other Topre caps, but the two I have are different (one white one black). I thought PBT in general has a dry texture that is somewhat resilient to sweat, but these two does not feel that way. Is my impression on PBT wrong?
    Different method leads to different feeling. BSP have smooth texture and ducky caps have a dry texture. Topre caps all have a smooth texture but the black caps have a rougher texture
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 February 2016, 06:27:04
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 22:07:32
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 22:01:27
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 21:16:36
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 20:50:51
    I got 3 Topre switch testers and the keycaps confused me. The keycap from Type Heaven is supposedly ABS and the other two from Realforce are PBT. The Type Heaven keycap has a nice texture and feels dry(not slippery). It feels very similar to my Vortex PBT caps. On the other hand, the Realforce caps are quite slippery, even more slippery than my ABS caps. Why is this?
    Different plastic?
    No I mean different factory? Cause they must have a different finishing?
    I don't have other Topre caps, but the two I have are different (one white one black). I thought PBT in general has a dry texture that is somewhat resilient to sweat, but these two does not feel that way. Is my impression on PBT wrong?
    Different method leads to different feeling. BSP have smooth texture and ducky caps have a dry texture. Topre caps all have a smooth texture but the black caps have a rougher texture

    In addition to this, remember that ABS and PBT still encompasses a lot of formulations which can affect how the plastics feel. As well as the finishes such as a coating or UV printing.

    Quote from: thatllbeme on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:44:12
    So I put one of my customs together again today (had to take it apart because I'm a klutz and wired the Teensy in backwards). One of the keys doesn't register when pressed down normally, but when I put the keyboard on the table upside down it spams the key. Swapping out the spring + stem hasn't helped and the solder connections seem fine. Shorting the switch by putting a wire across both legs doesn't help either, so I'm thinking I'll have to swap out the whole leaf or switch. Am I missing something obvious?

    I think you should just swap out the switch like you suggested.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Thu, 11 February 2016, 10:16:58
    Scratched a PCB, I think I damaged a few tracks. What are the usual symptoms of a scratched track? So far my problem is a couple of chattering keys and a couple of other keys are not working at all. Wondering how I can fix that...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 February 2016, 10:35:20
    Quote from: apolotary on Thu, 11 February 2016, 10:16:58
    Scratched a PCB, I think I damaged a few tracks. What are the usual symptoms of a scratched track? So far my problem is a couple of chattering keys and a couple of other keys are not working at all. Wondering how I can fix that...

    Hard wiring is the best way but you might be able to use silver ink depending on the damage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Steezus on Thu, 11 February 2016, 10:57:23
    Quote from: apolotary on Thu, 11 February 2016, 10:16:58
    Scratched a PCB, I think I damaged a few tracks. What are the usual symptoms of a scratched track? So far my problem is a couple of chattering keys and a couple of other keys are not working at all. Wondering how I can fix that...

    The broken trace would not cause chattering issues, that is another problem. The switches not working howevet could be cause by it. If it's just a tiny scratch you could see if you can add a little solder to reconnect the trace or wire it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: apolotary on Thu, 11 February 2016, 11:37:32
    Quote from: Steezus on Thu, 11 February 2016, 10:57:23
    Quote from: apolotary on Thu, 11 February 2016, 10:16:58
    Scratched a PCB, I think I damaged a few tracks. What are the usual symptoms of a scratched track? So far my problem is a couple of chattering keys and a couple of other keys are not working at all. Wondering how I can fix that...

    The broken trace would not cause chattering issues, that is another problem. The switches not working howevet could be cause by it. If it's just a tiny scratch you could see if you can add a little solder to reconnect the trace or wire it.

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 11 February 2016, 10:35:20
    Quote from: apolotary on Thu, 11 February 2016, 10:16:58
    Scratched a PCB, I think I damaged a few tracks. What are the usual symptoms of a scratched track? So far my problem is a couple of chattering keys and a couple of other keys are not working at all. Wondering how I can fix that...

    Hard wiring is the best way but you might be able to use silver ink depending on the damage.

    Turns out I broke a diode off the Enter key and rewiring it to a key nearby was a stupid idea that caused chattering. Will put the diode back when I get a replacement and see how it goes!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: thatllbeme on Thu, 11 February 2016, 11:58:47

    Quote from: thatllbeme on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:44:12
    So I put one of my customs together again today (had to take it apart because I'm a klutz and wired the Teensy in backwards). One of the keys doesn't register when pressed down normally, but when I put the keyboard on the table upside down it spams the key. Swapping out the spring + stem hasn't helped and the solder connections seem fine. Shorting the switch by putting a wire across both legs doesn't help either, so I'm thinking I'll have to swap out the whole leaf or switch. Am I missing something obvious?

    I think you should just swap out the switch like you suggested.
    [/quote]

    Thanks for the suggestion! I swapped it out for two different switches, and it hasn't helped. Now I'm thinking it might be a short somewhere, so I'm going to go over my wiring and insulate everything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Zedd on Thu, 11 February 2016, 16:13:08
    hello,
    is there any physical difference between cherry mx red and black stems? i was wondering since they are both linear switches, using the same spring weights on a red and black stem would be exactly the same switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:16:24
    Quote from: Zedd on Thu, 11 February 2016, 16:13:08
    hello,
    is there any physical difference between cherry mx red and black stems? i was wondering since they are both linear switches, using the same spring weights on a red and black stem would be exactly the same switches.

    The stems are the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:42:32
    Quote from: Zedd on Thu, 11 February 2016, 16:13:08
    hello,
    is there any physical difference between cherry mx red and black stems? i was wondering since they are both linear switches, using the same spring weights on a red and black stem would be exactly the same switches.

    Just different colors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 11 February 2016, 18:57:57
    How difficult is it to pull firmware off of an existing custom? I'm hoping to be able to extract the current firmware from my 356 Mini and reload it in the event that I brick it trying to load new firmware on it. Is that a reasonable goal?

    EDIT: I think I've figured out how to download the firmware with AVRDude and an AVR ISP, so I'll have to get one of those. The ISP hookups on the PCB do not have pins soldered in, is there a good way to securely hookup an AVR ISP to it without soldering them on? These look cool, but they're discontinued: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/10527
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Thu, 11 February 2016, 22:01:34
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Thu, 11 February 2016, 18:57:57
    EDIT: I think I've figured out how to download the firmware with AVRDude and an AVR ISP, so I'll have to get one of those. The ISP hookups on the PCB do not have pins soldered in, is there a good way to securely hookup an AVR ISP to it without soldering them on? These look cool, but they're discontinued: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/10527

    I would just push normal headers on a slant with hand to make contact while downloading. In fact I did that with 2x3 header some ago.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Fri, 12 February 2016, 05:58:37
    anyone know if material similar to the silencing rings found in the type-s versions of Topre keyboards is available anywhere?
    i'm hoping to obtain a few sheets of something like that material, so i can freely cut and apply it myself.
    important is that it's thin :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Fri, 12 February 2016, 06:05:19
    a kind of PORON, maybe. I think hypersphere uses it at least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Fri, 12 February 2016, 06:35:52
    thanks for the reply hasu, i'll check it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Quackles on Fri, 12 February 2016, 15:47:37
    Is there a big difference between Krytox thick lube from Techkeys and Mech Lube 2 from Elitekeyboards?

    This is for my Realforce.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 12 February 2016, 15:48:21
    Quote from: Quackles on Fri, 12 February 2016, 15:47:37
    Is there a big difference between Krytox thick lube from Techkeys and Mech Lube 2 from Elitekeyboards?

    This is for my Realforce.

    Simple answer is get the krytox.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Quackles on Fri, 12 February 2016, 15:53:00
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 12 February 2016, 15:48:21
    Quote from: Quackles on Fri, 12 February 2016, 15:47:37
    Is there a big difference between Krytox thick lube from Techkeys and Mech Lube 2 from Elitekeyboards?

    This is for my Realforce.

    Simple answer is get the krytox.

    Damn it! Means I have to be patient for my Krytox to arrive from xondat. But I guess it will be worth it in the end.

    Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 14 February 2016, 09:54:56
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 10 February 2016, 03:45:40
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 02:23:49
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 10 February 2016, 01:55:50
    What keycaps are those on the KMAC?
    Gateron pbt? I see that bro use this on his dge too IIRC
    Or imsto

    The gats come in 4 shades right? I want the shade that's lighter than this but I might be wrong.

    Yep, from left to right: Dark Gray, Light Gray, Beige, White.  There's also "Ghost White" that is not in the photo.

    (http://i.imgur.com/4NgmBYP.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 February 2016, 17:12:13
    What's the minimum amount I need for a WKL PCB? Also how long from order to shipping for it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 16 February 2016, 19:41:42
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 16 February 2016, 17:12:13
    What's the minimum amount I need for a WKL PCB? Also how long from order to shipping for it?

    Check current prices and availability at winkeyless, gon and mechanicalkeyboards. There is a cheap phantom under $40, now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 February 2016, 06:37:41
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 16 February 2016, 19:41:42
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 16 February 2016, 17:12:13
    What's the minimum amount I need for a WKL PCB? Also how long from order to shipping for it?

    Check current prices and availability at winkeyless, gon and mechanicalkeyboards. There is a cheap phantom under $40, now.

    Sorry, I meant what options do I need to have a working PCB from WKL.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 17 February 2016, 06:50:56
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 17 February 2016, 06:37:41
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 16 February 2016, 19:41:42
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 16 February 2016, 17:12:13
    What's the minimum amount I need for a WKL PCB? Also how long from order to shipping for it?

    Check current prices and availability at winkeyless, gon and mechanicalkeyboards. There is a cheap phantom under $40, now.

    Sorry, I meant what options do I need to have a working PCB from WKL.

    pcb's come with the controller components presoldered leaving you to solder diodes and resistors if you plan to use any lighting on the board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 February 2016, 07:29:47
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 17 February 2016, 06:50:56
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 17 February 2016, 06:37:41
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 16 February 2016, 19:41:42
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 16 February 2016, 17:12:13
    What's the minimum amount I need for a WKL PCB? Also how long from order to shipping for it?

    Check current prices and availability at winkeyless, gon and mechanicalkeyboards. There is a cheap phantom under $40, now.

    Sorry, I meant what options do I need to have a working PCB from WKL.

    pcb's come with the controller components presoldered leaving you to solder diodes and resistors if you plan to use any lighting on the board

    (http://i.imgur.com/ZXr0EiO.png)

    So with these options all I need to do is solder the switches in?

    Also how long does order placed to shipping take? It says 7-10 days but want to check.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 17 February 2016, 07:33:01

    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 17 February 2016, 07:29:47
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 17 February 2016, 06:50:56
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 17 February 2016, 06:37:41
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 16 February 2016, 19:41:42
    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 16 February 2016, 17:12:13
    What's the minimum amount I need for a WKL PCB? Also how long from order to shipping for it?

    Check current prices and availability at winkeyless, gon and mechanicalkeyboards. There is a cheap phantom under $40, now.

    Sorry, I meant what options do I need to have a working PCB from WKL.

    pcb's come with the controller components presoldered leaving you to solder diodes and resistors if you plan to use any lighting on the board

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/ZXr0EiO.png)


    So with these options all I need to do is solder the switches in?

    Also how long does order placed to shipping take? It says 7-10 days but want to check.

    Yep

    Wkl are pretty quick on shipping so that 7-10 day estimate is probably pretty close
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ctm on Wed, 17 February 2016, 14:50:49
    I have seen some post about the plate of Massdrop Infinity being too thick for Alps to clip properly and tend to break Alps switches. Has this problem been fixed in later rounds? I am thinking about getting one with flat plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Wed, 17 February 2016, 15:45:24
    Quote from: ctm on Wed, 17 February 2016, 14:50:49
    I have seen some post about the plate of Massdrop Infinity being too thick for Alps to clip properly and tend to break Alps switches. Has this problem been fixed in later rounds? I am thinking about getting one with flat plate.

    I have the Gen 1 Infinity with the bent case and I've never had problems with the switches. They are not clipped in tight though, this is true. I've had none break though and they are quite solid when soldered in place.

    Don't look at me though, I use my Infinity solderless with Alps switches and it works just fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bbrotha on Thu, 18 February 2016, 11:39:11
    Hi guys, I have a Sprit pcb and have a problem with the enter key. It seems it is mapped to ESC, DEL, WIN and Enter on the same press. I already tried to flash it like 100 times and map it differently but the problem persist. Any thoughs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 February 2016, 11:43:17
    Quote from: bbrotha on Thu, 18 February 2016, 11:39:11
    Hi guys, I have a Sprit pcb and have a problem with the enter key. It seems it is mapped to ESC, DEL, WIN and Enter on the same press. I already tried to flash it like 100 times and map it differently but the problem persist. Any thoughs?

    You sure everything is soldered properly and there's no grounding issues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 18 February 2016, 12:43:39
    That doesn't sound like a matrix soldering error. They're more likely to be of the type 6yhb or 1234567890. Unless the PCB has those buttons in a line, it sounds more like a software error.

    Has the software been changed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bbrotha on Thu, 18 February 2016, 12:49:32
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 18 February 2016, 12:43:39
    That doesn't sound like a matrix soldering error. They're more likely to be of the type 6yhb or 1234567890. Unless the PCB has those buttons in a line, it sounds more like a software error.

    Has the software been changed?

    I did use the software on the guide posted by sprit, and use those .hex files for flashing. but still no change. Also I can't open the flashing software with win 10, so I had to installed on a old pc with XP for it to work. Could it be that I'm using an incorrect software to flash it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 18 February 2016, 12:52:49
    If you get the same error with both the original and your own software it's not likely. If you've just used your own software you should try to scrounge up a copy of the original software and try that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:40:06
    I'd like to get this Dolch board working with my computer, and I'm guessing I need to either mod the existing cable or make a converter, or just see about unplugging the existing cable and replacing it with an R45 to PS2 one (is that right?)

    Can anyone give a recommendation on how to open this case?  Are there screws under those rubber pads in the legs?  Any tabs in the holes on the sides?  Don't want to break anything as I investigate it.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:49:34
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:52:41
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 21 February 2016, 00:27:00
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:49:34
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:40:06
    I'd like to get this Dolch board working with my computer, and I'm guessing I need to either mod the existing cable or make a converter, or just see about unplugging the existing cable and replacing it with an R45 to PS2 one (is that right?)

    Can anyone give a recommendation on how to open this case?  Are there screws under those rubber pads in the legs?  Any tabs in the holes on the sides?  Don't want to break anything as I investigate it.

    Hi!  You need to remove the rare logo and all the feet to get it apart.  Use heat on the logo and don't force it as it is metal and can bend.  Internally, just solder on a new PS2 cable.  Let me know if you need more help.  i've done this twice now :)

    Thanks.  Do you mean the "rear" logo?  As in on the back side of the keyboard? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 09:24:52
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 21 February 2016, 16:03:53
    Thanks, opened it up just now.  One of the screws had some very strong glue in the part where you're supposed to place the screwdriver tip.  Took a while to carve it out with a skinny flat head screwdriver before I could remove it.  Other screws were clean, beside the rubber foot glue residue.  It looks like inside the cable's just plugged in with another RJ10 end.  Typo about RJ45 earlier.  I'll look for ready-made RJ11 to PS2 cables or make one myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Quackles on Sun, 21 February 2016, 17:34:53
    Probably not simple. But I'm hoping someone looked into it.

    Does anyone know the sizes of the two screws used in a Realforce 87? The black and silver ones on the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fyodor on Mon, 22 February 2016, 07:23:16
    Hi, i've been looking for a CoolerMaster CMStorm Quick Fire Rapid with cherry mx blue.

    Here in Spain is hard to find keyboards with blue cherry, on amazon.com i can find it for 70$ + 40$ shipping. Right now there is one on ebay for sale but is already at 31$ (+40$ shipping +11$ import charges).

    Is there any keyboard with similar costs that is better than the quick fire ?

     :rolleyes:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 February 2016, 07:26:55
    Quote from: Fyodor on Mon, 22 February 2016, 07:23:16
    Hi, i've been looking for a CoolerMaster CMStorm Quick Fire Rapid with cherry mx blue.

    Here in Spain is hard to find keyboards with blue cherry, on amazon.com i can find it for 70$ + 40$ shipping. Right now there is one on ebay for sale but is already at 31$ (+40$ shipping +11$ import charges).

    Is there any keyboard with similar costs that is better than the quick fire ?

     :rolleyes:

    I think for that $81 price that's actually a great pickup. If you're willing to pay more, I really like suggesting Ducky boards. But there's a lot of other competitors out now in your price range that I unfortunately don't know a lot about. Hopefully someone can help you out further on budget boards.

    Edit: Found the thread I was trying to reference in my post. This thread seems pretty helpful (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79555.0).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fyodor on Mon, 22 February 2016, 07:41:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 22 February 2016, 07:26:55
    Quote from: Fyodor on Mon, 22 February 2016, 07:23:16
    Hi, i've been looking for a CoolerMaster CMStorm Quick Fire Rapid with cherry mx blue.

    Here in Spain is hard to find keyboards with blue cherry, on amazon.com i can find it for 70$ + 40$ shipping. Right now there is one on ebay for sale but is already at 31$ (+40$ shipping +11$ import charges).

    Is there any keyboard with similar costs that is better than the quick fire ?

     :rolleyes:

    I think for that $81 price that's actually a great pickup. If you're willing to pay more, I really like suggesting Ducky boards. But there's a lot of other competitors out now in your price range that I unfortunately don't know a lot about. Hopefully someone can help you out further on budget boards.

    I'll follow the auction on ebay but definitely the price is going up, at least 20-30$
    Should I look for a specific Ducky model keyboard? They don't seem easy to get in Spain.

    EDIT: just saw your edit Thank you!
    EDIT2: I've been really close to get a Ozone strike battle last week, we have a supplier here in Spain, but unfortunately they don't have blue cherry, just brown or red. I should look for another supplier

    EDIT3: Ok nevermind, I won the auction for the QFR, 45$ + shipment on ebay  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Tue, 23 February 2016, 07:30:31
    are there active geekhackers that make custom wooden wrist rests?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 February 2016, 07:32:35
    Quote from: Bucake on Tue, 23 February 2016, 07:30:31
    are there active geekhackers that make custom wooden wrist rests?

    Yes, check out inanis' shop (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75471.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Tue, 23 February 2016, 23:08:09
    thank you CPT!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 24 February 2016, 03:34:29
    If I can get an IBM Model M2 for a lot cheaper than a Model M just to try out buckling springs, is it worth it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 24 February 2016, 05:53:52
    The M2 is nice but it isn't quite the same as an F or M.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 February 2016, 10:35:25
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 24 February 2016, 03:34:29
    If I can get an IBM Model M2 for a lot cheaper than a Model M just to try out buckling springs, is it worth it?

    I think they're worth it. M2's aren't bad other than the capacitor issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 24 February 2016, 11:38:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 February 2016, 10:35:25
    M2's aren't bad other than the capacitor issue.

    I have never taken one apart, but aren't the stabilizers easy to break and difficult to replace?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 February 2016, 11:39:05
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 24 February 2016, 11:38:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 February 2016, 10:35:25
    M2's aren't bad other than the capacitor issue.

    I have never taken one apart, but aren't the stabilizers easy to break and difficult to replace?

    Dunno, I've not taken one apart either. It's my understanding it's hard to get parts for the M2 in general.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 24 February 2016, 12:03:25
    Yeah the M2 is absolutely awful to take apart. I'd never wish it on anyone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eugene45 on Wed, 24 February 2016, 12:50:24
    wrong corner
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 February 2016, 13:45:05
    I thought there was a tool that would check and see if your legend would be acceptable for SP to doubleshot. Am I imagining things or is this actually a thing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 24 February 2016, 16:21:54
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 February 2016, 13:45:05
    I thought there was a tool that would check and see if your legend would be acceptable for SP to doubleshot. Am I imagining things or is this actually a thing?

    I don't remember the tool but the minimum thicknesses/ dimensions have been posted quite a few times
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Wed, 24 February 2016, 18:34:14
    When a person has a 60% keyboard that they were able to build in either a WKL or HHKB layout with a 7u spacebar.
    What keyboard is that? Is it some sort of combination of different community developed PCBs and plates? Which are only attainable through GBs?

    I just want to build a hhkb layout board. And dont want to have to use a 6x spacebar. Sorry its obvious Im having trouble finding information on this. So was wondering if people can help. Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 24 February 2016, 18:56:20
    Quote from: Fullcream on Wed, 24 February 2016, 18:34:14
    When a person has a 60% keyboard that they were able to build in either a WKL or HHKB layout with a 7u spacebar.
    What keyboard is that? Is it some sort of combination of different community developed PCBs and plates? Which are only attainable through GBs?

    I just want to build a hhkb layout board. And dont want to have to use a 6x spacebar. Sorry its obvious Im having trouble finding information on this. So was wondering if people can help. Thanks

    Pretty much all the HHKB style boards that use MX are using the winkeyless bottom row layout of 1.5u/1u/1.5u/7u/1.5u/1u/1.5u

    I don't know any OEM boards that use that bottom row layout - but pretty much any aftermarket plate or pcb will have options for both wkl and standard bottom row layouts

    GON and WKL both have plates and pcbs that facilitate the HHKB and WKL layout - if you want the "blockers" on the plate though though you might have to hold out for the upcoming leandren plate group buy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Wed, 24 February 2016, 19:11:29
    Thankyou!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sl4ppy on Wed, 24 February 2016, 20:07:21
    Ducky Shine 5 help question.. I suspect I already know the answer as the Shine's aren't exactly super customize-able....

    Is it possible to set the minimum illumination level or default LED color for modes like reactive mode...  ie: keys are lit low-level green, and reactive mode replaces that vs. the default no illumination and reactive?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 24 February 2016, 20:22:48
    Do thick, black, PBT ALPS mount keycaps exist? Wanting to pick up a Matias.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 24 February 2016, 21:20:21
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 24 February 2016, 20:22:48
    Do thick, black, PBT ALPS mount keycaps exist? Wanting to pick up a Matias.

    Not that I know of. Matias uses a non-standard keyset anyways.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 February 2016, 03:19:48
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 24 February 2016, 21:20:21
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 24 February 2016, 20:22:48
    Do thick, black, PBT ALPS mount keycaps exist? Wanting to pick up a Matias.

    Not that I know of. Matias uses a non-standard keyset anyways.

    Agreed. There's very little aftermarket choices with Alps keycaps right now. If you missed the few GBs (Tai Hao on Massdrop, Alpine Winter, njbair's modifier set) that have come out lately, you'll have to settle for stock caps or hunt vintage sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Thu, 25 February 2016, 03:40:08
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 24 February 2016, 20:22:48
    Do thick, black, PBT ALPS mount keycaps exist? Wanting to pick up a Matias.

    I've got a project set up for dyeing some AT101 and IBM 5140 key caps soon. Gonna practice on some crappy thin Cherry PBT first before I potentially ruin some very difficult to attain, or at the very least expensive caps.

    I also have a lot of spare AEK caps and Apple top hat caps that are PBT too. All good candidates to test the waters. I think as long as the caps are squeaky clean and the pot is clean (I bought a stainless pot, stainless strainers, and a digital thermometer for this), all should be well.

    I don't think dyeing seems so hard. I hope.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 February 2016, 03:46:40
    Quote from: sl4ppy on Wed, 24 February 2016, 20:07:21
    Ducky Shine 5 help question.. I suspect I already know the answer as the Shine's aren't exactly super customize-able....

    Is it possible to set the minimum illumination level or default LED color for modes like reactive mode...  ie: keys are lit low-level green, and reactive mode replaces that vs. the default no illumination and reactive?

    I thnk you're right and you can't change that unfortunately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kebby on Thu, 25 February 2016, 05:10:42
    I wasn't really paying attention back then so I have to ask: Why was the custom-designed PBT dyesub Infinity keycap set for the Infinity keyboard not get made for Alps/Matias in the end? SP seems to offering PBT DSA blanks with Alps stems for that keyboard so they seem to have that capacity at least...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 February 2016, 05:16:37
    Quote from: kebby on Thu, 25 February 2016, 05:10:42
    I wasn't really paying attention back then so I have to ask: Why was the custom-designed PBT dyesub Infinity keycap set for the Infinity keyboard not get made for Alps/Matias in the end? SP seems to offering PBT DSA blanks with Alps stems for that keyboard so they seem to have that capacity at least...

    I'm not sure exactly which set you're referring to but IIRC, the Infinity has a unique layout such that the caps can't be used elsewhere. Plus the buy may not have had a lot of support within Infinity buyers.

    Alps caps seem to have this issue where people don't like Alps because there's no caps but then people don't support the caps that do come out because they're too spoiled. It wasn't too long ago when SP DCS was the standard aftermarket GB caps for MX and people expect to just jump to GMK-type caps right away for Alps.

    So TL:DR, I'm guessing it just had little support.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kebby on Thu, 25 February 2016, 05:29:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 February 2016, 05:16:37
    Quote from: kebby on Thu, 25 February 2016, 05:10:42
    I wasn't really paying attention back then so I have to ask: Why was the custom-designed PBT dyesub Infinity keycap set for the Infinity keyboard not get made for Alps/Matias in the end? SP seems to offering PBT DSA blanks with Alps stems for that keyboard so they seem to have that capacity at least...

    I'm not sure exactly which set you're referring to but IIRC, the Infinity has a unique layout such that the caps can't be used elsewhere. Plus the buy may not have had a lot of support within Infinity buyers.

    Alps caps seem to have this issue where people don't like Alps because there's no caps but then people don't support the caps that do come out because they're too spoiled. It wasn't too long ago when SP DCS was the standard aftermarket GB caps for MX and people expect to just jump to GMK-type caps right away for Alps.

    So TL:DR, I'm guessing it just had little support.

    I mean the namesake keycap set for that keyboard which was offered along with the original Massdrop GB for it and has support for the Infinity's layout. I may be off on details of this but there was a parallel drop for the set and I thought there was some controversy about the keycap set not being available in Alps even though it was supposed to.

    I guess if I even got all that right it could be a matter of it being more expensive for SP to set up the production for a multicolored set with legends even if they seem to be happy to do the black blanks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 February 2016, 05:30:51
    Quote from: kebby on Thu, 25 February 2016, 05:29:15
    I mean the namesake keycap set for that keyboard which was offered along with the original Massdrop GB for it and has support for the Infinity's layout. I may be off on details of this but there was a parallel drop for the set and I thought there was some controversy about the keycap set not being available in Alps even though it was supposed to.

    I guess if I even got all that right it could be a matter of it being more expensive for SP to set up the production for a multicolored set with legends even if they seem to be happy to do the black blanks?

    Ah that original drop I'm not sure what happened.

    And I don't think so. We've had a multi-colored set made already.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:39:11
    Been out of the game for awhile so forgive me for my ignorance, but I saw this on originative earlier https://www.originativeco.com/products/cherry-pcb-mounted-stabilizer

    My GON has been sitting unassembled because I need Cherry stabs that will fit a WKL layout. I scoured the classifieds for ages looking for them but couldn't find what I needed. Will these do?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:41:12
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:39:11
    Been out of the game for awhile so forgive me for my ignorance, but I saw this on originative earlier https://www.originativeco.com/products/cherry-pcb-mounted-stabilizer

    My GON has been sitting unassembled because I need Cherry stabs that will fit a WKL layout. I scoured the classifieds for ages looking for them but couldn't find what I needed. Will these do?

    Yep, he has the 7u wire as a option.  I might actually order some of those myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:44:42
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:41:12
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:39:11
    Been out of the game for awhile so forgive me for my ignorance, but I saw this on originative earlier https://www.originativeco.com/products/cherry-pcb-mounted-stabilizer

    My GON has been sitting unassembled because I need Cherry stabs that will fit a WKL layout. I scoured the classifieds for ages looking for them but couldn't find what I needed. Will these do?

    Yep, he has the 7u wire as a option.  I might actually order some of those myself.
    God bless. I've been waiting so long. Might have to pick up some new keycaps as well.

    I shouldn't have come back to geekhack...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:48:32
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:44:42
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:41:12
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Thu, 25 February 2016, 14:39:11
    Been out of the game for awhile so forgive me for my ignorance, but I saw this on originative earlier https://www.originativeco.com/products/cherry-pcb-mounted-stabilizer

    My GON has been sitting unassembled because I need Cherry stabs that will fit a WKL layout. I scoured the classifieds for ages looking for them but couldn't find what I needed. Will these do?

    Yep, he has the 7u wire as a option.  I might actually order some of those myself.
    God bless. I've been waiting so long. Might have to pick up some new keycaps as well.

    I shouldn't have come back to geekhack...

    Welcome back  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sat, 27 February 2016, 01:08:32
    Is it possible to have more than one keyboard connected at the same time?

    I'm thinking of having an IBM Model M on my keyboard tray for extended typing (via PS/2) and then using a more keyboard for occasional gaming and when I need to quickly type messages.

    I tried this using my Focus FK-2001 and Keycool 87 but when I tried to connect the second keyboard, it would light up but no keys would register.

    Fixed, just restarted my PC.

    The keyboards will work off eachother though, if you turn on caps on one board it will do it on the other and vice versa.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 27 February 2016, 01:10:44
    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Quackles on Sat, 27 February 2016, 05:38:44
    Quote from: Quackles on Sun, 21 February 2016, 17:34:53
    Probably not simple. But I'm hoping someone looked into it.

    Does anyone know the sizes of the two screws used in a Realforce 87? The black and silver ones on the PCB.

    Just incase anyone was wondering. The silver ones are M2x5mm and the black ones are M2x8mm (but half of it is a thread, so difficult to get).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 27 February 2016, 08:43:41
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sat, 27 February 2016, 01:08:32
    The keyboards will work off each other though, if you turn on caps on one board it will do it on the other and vice versa.

    I keep 2 mice connected all the time and often have 2 keyboards connected. My USB Soarer's/Teensy does not register very early in the boot process, so I keep a PS/2 keyboard connected to mess around in the BIOS when that is necessary (eg to change hard drive boot priority and boot from my Linux drive).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 27 February 2016, 12:21:17
    Any good ideas for a non-permanent solution to adhering a small (aluminum) USB connector to hard plastic? I've routed out the plastic so that it will hold the connector securely and prevent it from moving laterally on their X/Y axis, but I'd like to prevent it from being lifted from the slot (Z axis) it fits into while retaining the ability to remove/replace it at a latter date without having to do any serious material removal. No extreme force applied to it, just want it to hold there and not move around much.

    Epoxy sounds a little too permanent to me, but I could be wrong. I'm not sure how hot glue might cause the plastic to melt/soften undesirably, but I think that's the level of hold I'm looking for. Maybe just some Elmer's?  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 February 2016, 12:22:14
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Sat, 27 February 2016, 12:21:17
    Any good ideas for a non-permanent solution to adhering a small (aluminum) USB connector to hard plastic? I've routed out the plastic so that it will hold the connector securely and prevent it from moving laterally on their X/Y axis, but I'd like to prevent it from being lifted from the slot (Z axis) it fits into while retaining the ability to remove/replace it at a latter date without having to do any serious material removal. No extreme force applied to it, just want it to hold there and not move around much.

    Epoxy sounds a little too permanent to me, but I could be wrong. I'm not sure how hot glue might cause the plastic to melt/soften undesirably, but I think that's the level of hold I'm looking for.

    Blue tack or whatever you called the tacky stuff you use to mount posters to the wall.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 27 February 2016, 12:37:41
    Really horrible chewing gum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 27 February 2016, 16:14:59
    It appears I have misplaced the bolts for my GON case. I don't really want to pay $35 for them and wait for them to ship from Korea. Is there anywhere in the US I could potentially purchase what I need? The top of the screw says 10.9 HUA and his website says m3 x 12mm.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dgneo on Sat, 27 February 2016, 16:17:13
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sat, 27 February 2016, 16:14:59
    It appears I have misplaced the bolts for my GON case. I don't really want to pay $35 for them and wait for them to ship from Korea. Is there anywhere in the US I could potentially purchase what I need? The top of the screw says 10.9 HUA and his website says m3 x 12mm.

    http://www.helipal.com/m3-x-12mm-flat-head-cap-screws.html

    Perhaps those will work? I'm not sure what GON's screws look like exactly. Same grade (10.9) and everything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Sat, 27 February 2016, 16:18:52
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sat, 27 February 2016, 16:14:59
    It appears I have misplaced the bolts for my GON case. I don't really want to pay $35 for them and wait for them to ship from Korea. Is there anywhere in the US I could potentially purchase what I need? The top of the screw says 10.9 HUA and his website says m3 x 12mm.

    m3 is widgth and 12mm is length. You can find m3 screws anywhere.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=azs_osd_iea?ie=UTF-8&tag=hp-us2-vsb-20&link_code=qs&index=aps&field-keywords=m3+screws
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 27 February 2016, 16:29:57
    Quote from: dgneo on Sat, 27 February 2016, 16:17:13
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sat, 27 February 2016, 16:14:59
    It appears I have misplaced the bolts for my GON case. I don't really want to pay $35 for them and wait for them to ship from Korea. Is there anywhere in the US I could potentially purchase what I need? The top of the screw says 10.9 HUA and his website says m3 x 12mm.

    http://www.helipal.com/m3-x-12mm-flat-head-cap-screws.html

    Perhaps those will work? I'm not sure what GON's screws look like exactly. Same grade (10.9) and everything.
    ty
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 27 February 2016, 17:01:20
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 27 February 2016, 12:22:14
    Blue tack or whatever you called the tacky stuff you use to mount posters to the wall.

    Working well so far  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 27 February 2016, 23:27:04
    Are using vinegar is good to remove rust on realforce plate? its just a small rust
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sun, 28 February 2016, 00:46:06
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sat, 27 February 2016, 23:27:04
    Are using vinegar is good to remove rust on realforce plate? its just a small rust

    Yep, vinegar and a cotton swap will work fine. Any residue can be swept up with some alcohol. I did this on my Focus FK-555 which is pretty much NOS, but it had a tiny tiny scratch on the plate that had rusted, but vinegar took it right off. ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 28 February 2016, 00:47:21
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 28 February 2016, 05:16:24
    Quote from: E3E on Sun, 28 February 2016, 00:46:06
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sat, 27 February 2016, 23:27:04
    Are using vinegar is good to remove rust on realforce plate? its just a small rust

    Yep, vinegar and a cotton swap will work fine. Any residue can be swept up with some alcohol. I did this on my Focus FK-555 which is pretty much NOS, but it had a tiny tiny scratch on the plate that had rusted, but vinegar took it right off. ;)
    And yeah the vinegar doesn't just remove the rust but the paint too  :))

    Planning on getting it repainted can someone give me some instruction on how to paint plates?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sun, 28 February 2016, 10:42:08
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 28 February 2016, 05:16:24
    Quote from: E3E on Sun, 28 February 2016, 00:46:06
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sat, 27 February 2016, 23:27:04
    Are using vinegar is good to remove rust on realforce plate? its just a small rust

    Yep, vinegar and a cotton swap will work fine. Any residue can be swept up with some alcohol. I did this on my Focus FK-555 which is pretty much NOS, but it had a tiny tiny scratch on the plate that had rusted, but vinegar took it right off. ;)
    And yeah the vinegar doesn't just remove the rust but the paint too  :))

    Planning on getting it repainted can someone give me some instruction on how to paint plates?

    It doesn't wear through the powder coat paint though. If it's just surface rust, it should come off pretty quickly before any damage to the powder coat. :3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Sun, 28 February 2016, 12:28:31
    I'm looking for Cherry doubleshot white on black, and I'm trying to find both a 1800 layout and a normal ANSI layout. Which keyboards should I look for, and how will I be able to tell they are doubleshot?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 28 February 2016, 16:05:46
    I recalled an Ivan's board with some US International legends on an ANSI Cherry keyboard, double shots along with the alternate legends pad printed, but I am not sure. Does anyone have information about an stock Cherry board with US international legends?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 28 February 2016, 16:18:22
    Quote from: piemancoder on Sun, 28 February 2016, 12:28:31
    I'm looking for Cherry doubleshot white on black, and I'm trying to find both a 1800 layout and a normal ANSI layout. Which keyboards should I look for, and how will I be able to tell they are doubleshot?


    https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers#Keycaps

    Look for a G81-1800HXXX or G80-1800HXXX
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 28 February 2016, 16:35:11
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sun, 28 February 2016, 16:49:31
    How do you people do Ctrl + ALt + Delete on your 60% boards?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sun, 28 February 2016, 16:59:15
    I dont, i use macro on mouse button, much easier
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: thatsmrdoctortoyou on Sun, 28 February 2016, 17:01:52
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sun, 28 February 2016, 16:49:31
    How do you people do Ctrl + ALt + Delete on your 60% boards?

    If you have a programmable layer like on the Poker series 60% boards, you can set set a programmable key series for CTL+ALT+DEL. Personally I have PN+ESC set as CTL+ALT+DEL
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 28 February 2016, 17:24:04
    Quote from: E3E on Sun, 28 February 2016, 10:42:08
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 28 February 2016, 05:16:24
    Quote from: E3E on Sun, 28 February 2016, 00:46:06
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sat, 27 February 2016, 23:27:04
    Are using vinegar is good to remove rust on realforce plate? its just a small rust

    Yep, vinegar and a cotton swap will work fine. Any residue can be swept up with some alcohol. I did this on my Focus FK-555 which is pretty much NOS, but it had a tiny tiny scratch on the plate that had rusted, but vinegar took it right off. ;)
    And yeah the vinegar doesn't just remove the rust but the paint too  :))

    Planning on getting it repainted can someone give me some instruction on how to paint plates?

    It doesn't wear through the powder coat paint though. If it's just surface rust, it should come off pretty quickly before any damage to the powder coat. :3
    yep I just dump the board in the vinegar for 5 hours and yeah I damaged the paint but after I brushed it with my steel brush It became quite good!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sun, 28 February 2016, 18:59:22
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 28 February 2016, 17:24:04
    Quote from: E3E on Sun, 28 February 2016, 10:42:08
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sun, 28 February 2016, 05:16:24
    Quote from: E3E on Sun, 28 February 2016, 00:46:06
    Quote from: bocahgundul on Sat, 27 February 2016, 23:27:04
    Are using vinegar is good to remove rust on realforce plate? its just a small rust

    Yep, vinegar and a cotton swap will work fine. Any residue can be swept up with some alcohol. I did this on my Focus FK-555 which is pretty much NOS, but it had a tiny tiny scratch on the plate that had rusted, but vinegar took it right off. ;)
    And yeah the vinegar doesn't just remove the rust but the paint too  :))

    Planning on getting it repainted can someone give me some instruction on how to paint plates?

    It doesn't wear through the powder coat paint though. If it's just surface rust, it should come off pretty quickly before any damage to the powder coat. :3
    yep I just dump the board in the vinegar for 5 hours and yeah I damaged the paint but after I brushed it with my steel brush It became quite good!

    Holy moly, that must have been some SERIOUS rust or you were just lazy. :P

    Painting? Preparation is the most important step. Make sure the surface is clean and use gloves. Acetone or Alcohol work well to degrease a surface pretty quick IME, but you don't want to use Acetone if anything's sensitive to it on the surface you're painting. Same for Alcohol. Safest degreaser is dish soap and water. Dry it well and try not to get lint on the plate--this is why I like acetone and high purity alcohol, since they evaporate very quickly.

    If you're using spray cans and want a finer texture and more even spray pattern, you can heat the cans up a bit before spraying. I put mine in front of a small heater. For a metal plate, I prefer self-etching primer as it adheres really well. SEM is a brand I would recommend here. You can just give it a coat of SEM self-etching primer in black and you'd be done.

    Depending on the fineness of the paint, it can even give it an awesome sand blasted anodized look. Enamel black over the primer will probably look the closest to powdercoat, but I would just use the primer if I were you.

    If you want to keep the plate bare-looking, you can use Duplicolor's Adhesion Promoter and use a clear coat to protect it or something from their Metal Cast series to give it a translucent coat of whatever color they offer. I did this with Metal Cast blue for my FAME's plate since I carefully hand brushed the top-side of the plate as I refurbished it and it looked amazing.

    I wish I would have known vinegar would remove powdercoat like that, since that part of the FAME restoration process, sanding the paint off of the metal back and the plate, took 4 + hours by hand.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 29 February 2016, 00:50:20
    other than phantom and stock pcb, is there any pcb work inside a filco tkl case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 29 February 2016, 07:53:30
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Mon, 29 February 2016, 00:50:20
    other than phantom and stock pcb, is there any pcb work inside a filco tkl case?

    That's the only one I'm aware of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Tue, 01 March 2016, 07:33:18
    Does a leeku PCB and plate fit in a OG cherry case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 09:22:31
    Quote from: joey on Tue, 01 March 2016, 07:33:18
    Does a leeku PCB and plate fit in a OG cherry case?

    With the kin plate I had to cut a few small pieces out of the inside of the top case to make it fit. Nothing major
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 March 2016, 09:28:18
    Quote from: joey on Tue, 01 March 2016, 07:33:18
    Does a leeku PCB and plate fit in a OG cherry case?

    Yup, both the 1800 and 3000 fit fine with a bit of modding to the cases. There's a few ribs that need to be cutaway.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Tue, 01 March 2016, 09:35:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 March 2016, 09:28:18
    Quote from: joey on Tue, 01 March 2016, 07:33:18
    Does a leeku PCB and plate fit in a OG cherry case?

    Yup, both the 1800 and 3000 fit fine with a bit of modding to the cases. There's a few ribs that need to be cutaway.
    Thanks cptbadhwood!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 09:49:05
    Quote from: joey on Tue, 01 March 2016, 09:35:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 March 2016, 09:28:18
    Quote from: joey on Tue, 01 March 2016, 07:33:18
    Does a leeku PCB and plate fit in a OG cherry case?

    Yup, both the 1800 and 3000 fit fine with a bit of modding to the cases. There's a few ribs that need to be cutaway.
    Thanks cptbadhwood!

    In fact, leeku actually incorporated holes in the PCB to fit the pegs in the cases
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Tue, 01 March 2016, 09:51:38
    Cool, looks like I'll finally be able to use my 1800 board. Just gotta figure out switches next!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 10:43:02
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 March 2016, 10:44:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 10:43:02
    can someone recommend a desoldering station?

    I really like the Hakko 808. I heard the upgraded FR300 is everything great about the 808 but with improvements like an on/off switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 11:06:16
    If you are conscious of price, the Aoyue 701A++ is really great. I use it all the time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 11:19:59
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 March 2016, 11:22:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 March 2016, 10:44:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 10:43:02
    can someone recommend a desoldering station?

    I really like the Hakko 808. I heard the upgraded FR300 is everything great about the 808 but with improvements like an on/off switch.

    You might also want to do a search within the Living Soldering Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) for "desoldering" and see what comes up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: amanxmb on Tue, 01 March 2016, 17:40:01
     ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:18:57
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 11:19:59

    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 11:06:16
    If you are conscious of price, the Aoyue 701A++ is really great. I use it all the time.

    Does it get both sides of the pad of the pcb?  That is my main concern.

    It usually leaves a perfect hole where the solder is. I don't know if I totally understand what you mean though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:41:11
    are there any aftermarket PCBs for the old Skidata keyboards?

    edit: talking about the one with the trackpad and huge amount of relegendables
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:54:43
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:41:11
    are there any aftermarket PCBs for the old Skidata keyboards?

    edit: talking about the one with the trackpad and huge amount of relegendables

    I've never seen one no
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:57:09

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:54:43
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:41:11
    are there any aftermarket PCBs for the old Skidata keyboards?

    edit: talking about the one with the trackpad and huge amount of relegendables

    I've never seen one no

    Looks like handwiring time! :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: THEMIKEBERG on Wed, 02 March 2016, 15:42:02
    Hey all! I'm quite new to this, so bare with me here.

    I'm having an issue identifying different keycaps. DSA, SA, etc.

    I'm looking for a set of spherical keycaps for my Leopold FC750, but I just cannot for the life of me tell from pictures (and the info provided) if the keycaps I'm looking at are spherical or not.

    I'm sorry if this was answered in the FAQ none of the questions under keycaps section seemed to be relevant to what I'm trying to find out.

    EDIT/ I have found the answers I am looking for, the glossary is very handy thanks!

    Thanks in advance,
    Mike
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:57:55
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:59:02
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:57:55
    has anyone used someone for desoldering??  I was looking towards a specific user, but they have blocked me for whatever reason...  Oh well they lost some good money for some grudge or something.
    Don't know if anyone is offering just desoldering in CONUS. Maybe steezus
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:59:28
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:05:47
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:59:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:59:02
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:57:55
    has anyone used someone for desoldering??  I was looking towards a specific user, but they have blocked me for whatever reason...  Oh well they lost some good money for some grudge or something.
    Don't know if anyone is offering just desoldering in CONUS. Maybe steezus

    there lies the issue
    I mean.... A desoldering tool from radio shack is like $10. A cheapo soldering iron and wick is just as cheap. It's really not that hard. Then you could just get it over with and not have to worry about who blocked you or whatever.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:10:55
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:57:55
    has anyone used someone for desoldering??  I was looking towards a specific user, but they have blocked me for whatever reason...  Oh well they lost some good money for some grudge or something.

    Just a desolder?  I'd probably be willing to do that for you.  What board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jokrik on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:15:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:05:47
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:59:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:59:02
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:57:55
    has anyone used someone for desoldering??  I was looking towards a specific user, but they have blocked me for whatever reason...  Oh well they lost some good money for some grudge or something.
    Don't know if anyone is offering just desoldering in CONUS. Maybe steezus

    there lies the issue
    I mean.... A desoldering tool from radio shack is like $10. A cheapo soldering iron and wick is just as cheap. It's really not that hard. Then you could just get it over with and not have to worry about who blocked you or whatever.

    True , it isn't that hard as long as you have good temperature and good sucker
    SS-02 is a good one I heard

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:37:21
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:42:26
    I could do it too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 03 March 2016, 01:51:38
    Do the font and legends on Unicomps keycaps match with the original Model M's?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 03 March 2016, 07:05:57
    Ha Ha

    "sometimes"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tassadarforaiur on Thu, 03 March 2016, 09:01:20
    Quote from: Jokrik on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:15:16
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:05:47
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:59:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:59:02
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:57:55
    has anyone used someone for desoldering??  I was looking towards a specific user, but they have blocked me for whatever reason...  Oh well they lost some good money for some grudge or something.
    Don't know if anyone is offering just desoldering in CONUS. Maybe steezus

    there lies the issue
    I mean.... A desoldering tool from radio shack is like $10. A cheapo soldering iron and wick is just as cheap. It's really not that hard. Then you could just get it over with and not have to worry about who blocked you or whatever.

    True , it isn't that hard as long as you have good temperature and good sucker
    SS-02 is a good one I heard



    If you have a radioshack nearby, I would strongly recommend buying this https://www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-45-watt-desoldering-iron?variant=5717855877 (https://www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-45-watt-desoldering-iron?variant=5717855877) and a handful of replacement tips before they disappear forever https://www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-replacement-tip-for-cat-6402060?variant=5717856005 (https://www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-replacement-tip-for-cat-6402060?variant=5717856005) standalone desoldering pumps require removing the iron, which lets the solder cool down, before you can position the pump for best suction. get a 1 piece unit, it's a game changer. (I would recommend an aoyue 474a++ or zd-985, but that's only if you do a lot of desoldering, but not enough to justify price of hakko)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 03 March 2016, 11:13:27
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:37:21
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:10:55
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:57:55
    has anyone used someone for desoldering??  I was looking towards a specific user, but they have blocked me for whatever reason...  Oh well they lost some good money for some grudge or something.

    Just a desolder?  I'd probably be willing to do that for you.  What board?

    I will have a 360C pcb soon, but I am afraid to lift pads.  Do you think I (or you ^-^) should use a Hakko gun?  I desoldered lots of old WYSE boards with a pump without any lifted pads, but I had an issue once with a leeku PCB and lifting a pad.  I think I didn't get all the solder off, and when I ripped the switch out, it grabbed the pad too....

    I've never lifted a pad with an 808 or FR-300.  I'd go that route.  If you have a gun and are familiar with it you should go for it.  :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 03 March 2016, 11:18:29
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 03 March 2016, 11:22:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 03 March 2016, 11:18:29
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 03 March 2016, 11:13:27
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:37:21
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:10:55
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 19:57:55
    has anyone used someone for desoldering??  I was looking towards a specific user, but they have blocked me for whatever reason...  Oh well they lost some good money for some grudge or something.

    Just a desolder?  I'd probably be willing to do that for you.  What board?

    I will have a 360C pcb soon, but I am afraid to lift pads.  Do you think I (or you ^-^) should use a Hakko gun?  I desoldered lots of old WYSE boards with a pump without any lifted pads, but I had an issue once with a leeku PCB and lifting a pad.  I think I didn't get all the solder off, and when I ripped the switch out, it grabbed the pad too....

    I've never lifted a pad with an 808 or FR-300.  I'd go that route.  If you have a gun and are familiar with it you should go for it.  :P

    oh so you have an 808/FR300?

    Used to have an 808, now have an FR-300.   :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 03 March 2016, 11:25:44
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Thu, 03 March 2016, 17:45:18
    What are the pros and cons of a stepped caps lock and a normal one? This also includes using it as ctrl.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 03 March 2016, 18:58:49
    I love stepped keys but there is a lot of ugliness towards them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 03 March 2016, 19:50:18
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 03 March 2016, 21:14:18
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 03 March 2016, 19:50:18

    Quote from: piemancoder on Thu, 03 March 2016, 17:45:18
    What are the pros and cons of a stepped caps lock and a normal one? This also includes using it as ctrl.

    I use stepped since it's what OG cherry uses which is the best feeling

    also looks cool
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 03 March 2016, 23:25:06
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Thu, 03 March 2016, 21:14:18
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 03 March 2016, 19:50:18
    Quote from: piemancoder on Thu, 03 March 2016, 17:45:18
    What are the pros and cons of a stepped caps lock and a normal one? This also includes using it as ctrl.
    I use stepped since it's what OG cherry uses which is the best feeling
    also looks cool

    +1  stepped Capslock looks the best.  It also makes it harder to accidentally hit it with your pinky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 04 March 2016, 02:26:32
    Can someone please tell me the exact size screws that are used on the bottom of the KMAC2 (the 10 screws that hold the two halves of the case together)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo2 on Fri, 04 March 2016, 04:57:45
    If im wiring keyboard like lowpoly style mean cut off the cord wire
    and the wires touch diodes is it effect when keypressed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fyodor on Fri, 04 March 2016, 05:55:37
    Is there any place that can print custom keycaps if I upload my layout, including side text and multiple colors?
    Example:

    (https://rhino.im/u/0027/IMG_3536.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:26:24
    Quote from: Fyodor on Fri, 04 March 2016, 05:55:37
    Is there any place that can print custom keycaps if I upload my layout, including side text and multiple colors?
    Example:

    Show Image
    (https://rhino.im/u/0027/IMG_3536.jpg)


    WASD Keyboards can do multiple colors, but I'm not sure about side text.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fyodor on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:52:11
    Quote from: piemancoder on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:26:24
    Quote from: Fyodor on Fri, 04 March 2016, 05:55:37
    Is there any place that can print custom keycaps if I upload my layout, including side text and multiple colors?
    Example:

    Show Image
    (https://rhino.im/u/0027/IMG_3536.jpg)


    WASD Keyboards can do multiple colors, but I'm not sure about side text.

    I don't think they have side text option, anyone knows an alternative?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 04 March 2016, 07:23:23
    Quote from: Fyodor on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:52:11
    Quote from: piemancoder on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:26:24
    Quote from: Fyodor on Fri, 04 March 2016, 05:55:37
    Is there any place that can print custom keycaps if I upload my layout, including side text and multiple colors?
    Example:

    Show Image
    (https://rhino.im/u/0027/IMG_3536.jpg)


    WASD Keyboards can do multiple colors, but I'm not sure about side text.

    I don't think they have side text option, anyone knows an alternative?

    Dymo label maker? Clear with white...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fyodor on Fri, 04 March 2016, 08:44:27
    Quote from: 00zeRO on Fri, 04 March 2016, 07:23:23
    Quote from: Fyodor on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:52:11
    Quote from: piemancoder on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:26:24
    Quote from: Fyodor on Fri, 04 March 2016, 05:55:37
    Is there any place that can print custom keycaps if I upload my layout, including side text and multiple colors?
    Example:

    Show Image
    (https://rhino.im/u/0027/IMG_3536.jpg)


    WASD Keyboards can do multiple colors, but I'm not sure about side text.

    I don't think they have side text option, anyone knows an alternative?

    Dymo label maker? Clear with white...

    Well, I thought of using some posca markers or some transparent adhesive vinyl. Really would like to save these for a last option  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 04 March 2016, 16:09:31
    If a Model M uses the two-piece keycaps will keycaps from variants with the one-piece keycaps still work? and vice versa.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 04 March 2016, 16:51:45
    Does anyone have an outline of 1800 PCB screw hole locations and such? I'm trying to have a case made for an MX1800
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 04 March 2016, 16:55:03
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 04 March 2016, 16:09:31
    If a Model M uses the two-piece keycaps will keycaps from variants with the one-piece keycaps still work? and vice versa.

    Yes. You just need to remove both pieces of the two-piece cap to be able to insert the one-piece cap (seems obvious, I know :p)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KaLam1ty on Sat, 05 March 2016, 12:43:39
    Has anyone else experienced a difference in tactility between Milky Housing (PCB 5Pin Mount) and Clear Housing (Plate 3 Pin Mount) Gateron Switches?
    I built a keyboard yesterday using Milky Gateron Blues and noticed they felt a lot 'mushier' than my KC60, which has the Clear Gateron Blues.
    (This is a difference in housing/body, not the actual stem type/color).

    Is there a reason for this? The keycaps I'm using are the same between boards and both are using Costar stabilizers.

    Also, if this issue is caused by the housing or stem, could I just swap out the tops and stems with a 'Clear' one?
    I REALLY don't want to desolder everything and replace the entire switch  :-X...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: demik on Sat, 05 March 2016, 12:51:08
    How much force does the spring under the hhkb spacebar add again? 5 or 10g? I forget OnO
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 March 2016, 13:03:30
    Where can I get those stabilizer inserts for cheap in Europe?

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/cherry-mx-keycap-stabilizer-insert-2pcs.html

    WASD wants like 30$ for shipping which is ridiculous for such an item...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombiegristle on Sat, 05 March 2016, 16:47:11
    Are there any ortholinear fullsize keyboards?

    EDIT: Not counting SPOS-style keyboards, looking for something with a more traditional height/aspect ratio instead of the massive grid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 05 March 2016, 16:51:41
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 March 2016, 13:03:30
    Where can I get those stabilizer inserts for cheap in Europe?

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/cherry-mx-keycap-stabilizer-insert-2pcs.html

    WASD wants like 30$ for shipping which is ridiculous for such an item...

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/4-filco-white-stabilizers.asp

    Or I'm more than happy to proxy some for you from wasdkeyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 05 March 2016, 17:12:19
    Quote from: demik on Sat, 05 March 2016, 12:51:08
    How much force does the spring under the hhkb spacebar add again? 5 or 10g? I forget OnO
    5g bro  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Sat, 05 March 2016, 21:22:55
    Anyone know anything about this?

    http://world.taobao.com/item/520774665151.htm?spm=a312a.7728556.2015080705.17.XeSwYa&id=520774665151&scm=1007.12006.12548.i525560579337&pvid=68a61db7-476f-4e68-b6d0-c1f7d5c8bcbd

    Looks interesting
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 06 March 2016, 01:55:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 05 March 2016, 16:51:41
    Quote from: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 March 2016, 13:03:30
    Where can I get those stabilizer inserts for cheap in Europe?

    http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/cherry-mx-keycap-stabilizer-insert-2pcs.html

    WASD wants like 30$ for shipping which is ridiculous for such an item...

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/4-filco-white-stabilizers.asp

    Or I'm more than happy to proxy some for you from wasdkeyboards.

    Thank you for the link and your offer to proxy!

    The pack from Keyboards CO is still expensive considering it's only 4 tiny pieces of plastic :(

    I had hoped you can buy a 100 pack from Taobao for cheap. Does anybody know a vendor who has these in stock?


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tassadarforaiur on Sun, 06 March 2016, 15:51:32
    Is there a gh60 plate layout floating around? Bought pcb off tech Keys, but only have costar stabs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 07 March 2016, 07:49:37
    Quote from: tassadarforaiur on Sun, 06 March 2016, 15:51:32
    Is there a gh60 plate layout floating around? Bought pcb off tech Keys, but only have costar stabs.

    Hm...the original GB had plates which could accommodate all the stabilizer types. Dunno if the plate files were ever released. I'd PM jdcarpe and ask.

    Quote from: zombiegristle on Sat, 05 March 2016, 16:47:11
    Are there any ortholinear fullsize keyboards?

    EDIT: Not counting SPOS-style keyboards, looking for something with a more traditional height/aspect ratio instead of the massive grid.

    Besides the SPOS ones you're referring to, I don't think so.

    Quote from: KaLam1ty on Sat, 05 March 2016, 12:43:39
    Has anyone else experienced a difference in tactility between Milky Housing (PCB 5Pin Mount) and Clear Housing (Plate 3 Pin Mount) Gateron Switches?
    I built a keyboard yesterday using Milky Gateron Blues and noticed they felt a lot 'mushier' than my KC60, which has the Clear Gateron Blues.
    (This is a difference in housing/body, not the actual stem type/color).

    Is there a reason for this? The keycaps I'm using are the same between boards and both are using Costar stabilizers.

    Also, if this issue is caused by the housing or stem, could I just swap out the tops and stems with a 'Clear' one?
    I REALLY don't want to desolder everything and replace the entire switch  :-X...

    You can swap the tops and stems out yes. The difference between the two could be differences in tolerances or materials. Never played with the exact switch combinations myself though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 07 March 2016, 16:58:31
    Is a 1986 model m worth $20 more over one from 97'?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 07 March 2016, 18:25:41
    Quote from: klennkellon on Mon, 07 March 2016, 16:58:31
    Is a 1986 model m worth $20 more over one from 97'?

    Quite probably.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Tue, 08 March 2016, 08:37:07
    Where can I find this wrist rest or one like it?

    [attachimg=1]

    [attachimg=2]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 08 March 2016, 09:18:02
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 08 March 2016, 09:21:27
    Quote from: Bromono on Tue, 08 March 2016, 08:37:07
    Where can I find this wrist rest or one like it?

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    I believe that's the clear acrylic Bird Electron wrist rest from PFU (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50676.0). I am unsure whether or not it's still for sale.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 08 March 2016, 16:25:56
    Quote from: Bromono on Tue, 08 March 2016, 08:37:07
    Where can I find this wrist rest or one like it?

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    http://item.rakuten.co.jp/pfudirect/10000040/ (http://item.rakuten.co.jp/pfudirect/10000040/)
    Is this what you looking for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 08 March 2016, 19:57:01
    Why are the industrial Model M's so highly valued? Is it just because they are rare or do they have advantages over regular Model Ms?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 08 March 2016, 20:02:01
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 08 March 2016, 19:57:01
    Why are the industrial Model M's so highly valued? Is it just because they are rare or do they have advantages over regular Model Ms?

    Mainly due to rarity.  They're not common and they're much sexier looking that the standard Model M.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 08 March 2016, 20:15:23
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 08 March 2016, 20:02:01
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 08 March 2016, 19:57:01
    Why are the industrial Model M's so highly valued? Is it just because they are rare or do they have advantages over regular Model Ms?

    Mainly due to rarity.  They're not common and they're much sexier looking that the standard Model M.
    I see. I'd rather buy a regular model-m and paint it for 1/3 the cost.

    Maybe I should start making bootleg industrial model m's.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 08 March 2016, 20:16:56
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 08 March 2016, 20:15:23
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 08 March 2016, 20:02:01
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 08 March 2016, 19:57:01
    Why are the industrial Model M's so highly valued? Is it just because they are rare or do they have advantages over regular Model Ms?

    Mainly due to rarity.  They're not common and they're much sexier looking that the standard Model M.
    I see. I'd rather buy a regular model-m and paint it for 1/3 the cost.

    Maybe I should start making bootleg industrial model m's.

    Only if you like getting hit with socks full of nickles.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Tue, 08 March 2016, 20:18:11
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 08 March 2016, 16:25:56
    Quote from: Bromono on Tue, 08 March 2016, 08:37:07
    Where can I find this wrist rest or one like it?

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    http://item.rakuten.co.jp/pfudirect/10000040/ (http://item.rakuten.co.jp/pfudirect/10000040/)
    Is this what you looking for?

    Yes! Thank you. Time to find a proxy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:42:56
    Can anyone identify this (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kewdale/other-electronics-computers/xt-at-vintage-computer-keyboard-retro/1090135795) keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:44:14
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:42:56
    Can anyone identify this (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kewdale/other-electronics-computers/xt-at-vintage-computer-keyboard-retro/1090135795) keyboard?

    Well it appears to be your standard vintage clicky mechanical computer keyboard at xt super cheap sale keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:44:57
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:44:14
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:42:56
    Can anyone identify this (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kewdale/other-electronics-computers/xt-at-vintage-computer-keyboard-retro/1090135795) keyboard?

    Well it appears to be your standard vintage clicky mechanical computer keyboard at xt super cheap sale keyboard.

    *cough* white alps *cough*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:47:12
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:44:57
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:44:14
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:42:56
    Can anyone identify this (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kewdale/other-electronics-computers/xt-at-vintage-computer-keyboard-retro/1090135795) keyboard?

    Well it appears to be your standard vintage clicky mechanical computer keyboard at xt super cheap sale keyboard.

    *cough* white alps *cough*

    I got nothing search for Profound SK-688LB (or 6881B, 888LB, 8881B).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:49:21
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:47:12
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:44:57
    Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:44:14
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 March 2016, 23:42:56
    Can anyone identify this (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kewdale/other-electronics-computers/xt-at-vintage-computer-keyboard-retro/1090135795) keyboard?

    Well it appears to be your standard vintage clicky mechanical computer keyboard at xt super cheap sale keyboard.

    *cough* white alps *cough*

    I got nothing search for Profound SK-688LB (or 6881B, 888LB, 8881B).

    Yeah I did quite a bit of searching on that model number without any results

    I'm wondering if its a rebrand of some other board
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 10 March 2016, 09:13:30
    Silitek OEM, probably the Silitek SK-8801 which is Rubber dome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 11 March 2016, 11:18:42
    What's the current recommendation for switch SIP sockets for LED installation? I found an old thread that suggested that there were multiple sizes, and that the larger ones prevented switches from closing well. Can someone link me to the specific ones I'd want to buy?

    Cheers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 17:53:53
    I'm having issues with my Blue Cube PS/2 to USB converter.

    The converter is detected by my PC, and the keyboard works fine when directly plugged into the PS/2 port (which is not aligned properly so i try not to use it). The keyboard will work for a few moments and then stop working a few moments later.

    does anybody know why? thanks

    EDIT: forgot to mention It's an AT keyboard being converted to PS/2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:13:29
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 17:53:53
    I'm having issues with my Blue Cube PS/2 to USB converter.

    The converter is detected by my PC, and the keyboard works fine when directly plugged into the PS/2 port (which is not aligned properly so i try not to use it). The keyboard will work for a few moments and then stop working a few moments later.

    does anybody know why? thanks

    EDIT: forgot to mention It's an AT keyboard being converted to PS/2

    So you have an AT to PS/2 adapter then a PS/2 to USB adapter? Could you be a little more clear? Your edit is confusing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:21:50
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:13:29
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 17:53:53
    I'm having issues with my Blue Cube PS/2 to USB converter.

    The converter is detected by my PC, and the keyboard works fine when directly plugged into the PS/2 port (which is not aligned properly so i try not to use it). The keyboard will work for a few moments and then stop working a few moments later.

    does anybody know why? thanks

    EDIT: forgot to mention It's an AT keyboard being converted to PS/2

    Apologies.


    So you have an AT to PS/2 adapter then a PS/2 to USB adapter? Could you be a little more clear? Your edit is confusing.

    Apologies.

    The keyboard is a Focus FK-2001. It uses a 5 pin AT cable, which I have a converter that converts it into PS/2. I then am plugging that PS/2 cable into the PS/2 to USB adapter.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:33:33
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:21:50
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:13:29
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 17:53:53
    I'm having issues with my Blue Cube PS/2 to USB converter.

    The converter is detected by my PC, and the keyboard works fine when directly plugged into the PS/2 port (which is not aligned properly so i try not to use it). The keyboard will work for a few moments and then stop working a few moments later.

    does anybody know why? thanks

    EDIT: forgot to mention It's an AT keyboard being converted to PS/2

    Apologies.


    So you have an AT to PS/2 adapter then a PS/2 to USB adapter? Could you be a little more clear? Your edit is confusing.


    Apologies.

    The keyboard is a Focus FK-2001. It uses a 5 pin AT cable, which I have a converter that converts it into PS/2. I then am plugging that PS/2 cable into the PS/2 to USB adapter.

    So with just the AT to PS/2 converter it works fine. And with the PS/2 to USB adapter it doesn't work that well? I'd try another keyboard with that PS/2 to USB adapter but it just seems like your adapter is bad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:41:17
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:33:33
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:21:50
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:13:29
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 17:53:53
    I'm having issues with my Blue Cube PS/2 to USB converter.

    The converter is detected by my PC, and the keyboard works fine when directly plugged into the PS/2 port (which is not aligned properly so i try not to use it). The keyboard will work for a few moments and then stop working a few moments later.

    does anybody know why? thanks

    EDIT: forgot to mention It's an AT keyboard being converted to PS/2

    Apologies.


    So you have an AT to PS/2 adapter then a PS/2 to USB adapter? Could you be a little more clear? Your edit is confusing.


    Apologies.

    The keyboard is a Focus FK-2001. It uses a 5 pin AT cable, which I have a converter that converts it into PS/2. I then am plugging that PS/2 cable into the PS/2 to USB adapter.

    So with just the AT to PS/2 converter it works fine. And with the PS/2 to USB adapter it doesn't work that well? I'd try another keyboard with that PS/2 to USB adapter but it just seems like your adapter is bad.

    I tried it with another keyboard, it works better, but it's like there is some huge lag between keystrokes and they don't even register.

    At normal typing speed "Tq quik bown f x jumpd oer the la dog"

    so probably the converter like you said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 11 March 2016, 20:20:51
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 11 March 2016, 11:18:42
    What's the current recommendation for switch SIP sockets for LED installation? I found an old thread that suggested that there were multiple sizes, and that the larger ones prevented switches from closing well. Can someone link me to the specific ones I'd want to buy?

    Cheers.

    +1  I'd like to know this also.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 11 March 2016, 21:44:47
    I just tried it again with my moms PC and her PS/2 keyboard, did not work.

    I think it's something to do with the AT to PS/2 converter, maybe it doesn't play nice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 March 2016, 22:01:57
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 11 March 2016, 20:20:51
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 11 March 2016, 11:18:42
    What's the current recommendation for switch SIP sockets for LED installation? I found an old thread that suggested that there were multiple sizes, and that the larger ones prevented switches from closing well. Can someone link me to the specific ones I'd want to buy?

    Cheers.

    +1  I'd like to know this also.

    I'm not 100% sure what's the most up to date SIP socket information but I found this year old GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64915.0) which placed an order for these SIP sockets on Mouser (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d). I ran a Google search for mention or info in the last 3 months and it didn't yield any info.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 11 March 2016, 23:47:11
    Thanks capn. I placed an order and will post here once they've arrived and I've tried installing a few.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rpeterclark on Sat, 12 March 2016, 06:44:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 March 2016, 22:01:57
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 11 March 2016, 20:20:51
    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 11 March 2016, 11:18:42
    What's the current recommendation for switch SIP sockets for LED installation? I found an old thread that suggested that there were multiple sizes, and that the larger ones prevented switches from closing well. Can someone link me to the specific ones I'd want to buy?

    Cheers.

    +1  I'd like to know this also.

    I'm not 100% sure what's the most up to date SIP socket information but I found this year old GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64915.0) which placed an order for these SIP sockets on Mouser (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d). I ran a Google search for mention or info in the last 3 months and it didn't yield any info.

    Quote from: riotonthebay on Fri, 11 March 2016, 23:47:11
    Thanks capn. I placed an order and will post here once they've arrived and I've tried installing a few.

    I installed those exact SIPs in some Zealios a couple nights ago. I removed them from the black housing and they fit just fine. Using those same SIPs, I've had to fiddle getting them into Cherry and older Gateron switches, they can catch on the top housing if not aligned right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 12 March 2016, 09:57:37
    Thanks for the info rpeterclark. I'm putting them in some Gaterons, and I'm not sure how to tell whether they're "old" or "new" Gaterons, but I'll report back regardless. Will probably be next weekend or so that I mod these switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: poisened_blueberry on Sun, 13 March 2016, 19:18:08
    Anyone know the difference between these two? Which one would you get?

    http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/rapid-i/ vs http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfirerapidred/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 108 on Sun, 13 March 2016, 20:06:19
    Quote from: poisened_blueberry on Sun, 13 March 2016, 19:18:08
    Anyone know the difference between these two? Which one would you get?

    http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/rapid-i/ vs http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfirerapidred/

    From what I've read the QFR-I is just a more updated and durable version of the QRF-R. However, the QFR-R comes with only red switches, and a red backplate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombiegristle on Sun, 13 March 2016, 20:56:33
    Are there any "preferred" keyboards or other input methods for interacting with a computer while wearing gloves? Specifically, something for typing crap while working on a car without having to constantly don and doff that work gloves would be pretty handy...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sun, 13 March 2016, 21:18:59
    Quote from: zombiegristle on Sun, 13 March 2016, 20:56:33
    Are there any "preferred" keyboards or other input methods for interacting with a computer while wearing gloves? Specifically, something for typing crap while working on a car without having to constantly don and doff that work gloves would be pretty handy...

    Maybe a KB with heavy switches so its harder to press other keys accidently with your gloves.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: poisened_blueberry on Sun, 13 March 2016, 21:27:24
    Quote from: 108 on Sun, 13 March 2016, 20:06:19
    Quote from: poisened_blueberry on Sun, 13 March 2016, 19:18:08
    Anyone know the difference between these two? Which one would you get?

    http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/rapid-i/ vs http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfirerapidred/

    From what I've read the QFR-I is just a more updated and durable version of the QRF-R. However, the QFR-R comes with only red switches, and a red backplate.

    Hmmm, ok.  The fact that the QFR-R is red switch only isn't a problem, as that is the switch I prefer.  If the QFR-I is more durable though, then i'm probably going to get that one, esp since it's cheaper aswell.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 13 March 2016, 21:27:42
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sun, 13 March 2016, 21:18:59
    Quote from: zombiegristle on Sun, 13 March 2016, 20:56:33
    Are there any "preferred" keyboards or other input methods for interacting with a computer while wearing gloves? Specifically, something for typing crap while working on a car without having to constantly don and doff that work gloves would be pretty handy...

    Maybe a KB with heavy switches so its harder to press other keys accidently with your gloves.

    You may try to wear gloves with no tips, if they are safe for your trade.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 13 March 2016, 21:31:57
    Quote from: zombiegristle on Sun, 13 March 2016, 20:56:33
    Are there any "preferred" keyboards or other input methods for interacting with a computer while wearing gloves? Specifically, something for typing crap while working on a car without having to constantly don and doff that work gloves would be pretty handy...

    Many buckling springs boards have been found in autoshops.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sun, 13 March 2016, 21:38:14
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 13 March 2016, 21:31:57
    Quote from: zombiegristle on Sun, 13 March 2016, 20:56:33
    Are there any "preferred" keyboards or other input methods for interacting with a computer while wearing gloves? Specifically, something for typing crap while working on a car without having to constantly don and doff that work gloves would be pretty handy...

    Many buckling springs boards have been found in autoshops.
    Yeah, in fact the industrial versions were in partmade because the grime is harder to see on grey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombiegristle on Sun, 13 March 2016, 21:40:35
    Sweet, I'll start checking out buckling-spring boards. My current daily-use board has Cherry greens, and it seems the main issue is the edges of the gloves pressing down adjacent keys unless I type very slowly, hunt-and-peck style. Fingertip-less gloves are a no-go, I'm not looking to compromise safety for convenience. Thanks for the advice!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:09:35
    All of a sudden I'm getting this really weird phenomenon with my duck viper...

    Pressing certain keys like I will result in two I's being placed (unless you tap it very quickly) and pressing K gives me something like the following:

    "   Qetuquo[   wetip   wetpqi   qweryweyi   q]iwerty   ]iqweryi   toryuiiyuo[   eier   wtyiqe   wrtyui   qetyri   qweyri   qweoryui   qwertyui   qop]iet"

    What the hell is going on?

    edit: ive tried resetting the firmware and im still getting this problem - also getting it on other keys such as ]}

    The "=+" key is giving me not only double entries but is giving me crazy random stuff like "124`7\1608" now as well
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombiegristle on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:22:58
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:09:35
    All of a sudden I'm getting this really weird phenomenon with my duck viper...

    Pressing certain keys like I will result in two I's being placed (unless you tap it very quickly) and pressing K gives me something like the following:

    "   Qetuquo[   wetip   wetpqi   qweryweyi   q]iwerty   ]iqweryi   toryuiiyuo[   eier   wtyiqe   wrtyui   qetyri   qweyri   qweoryui   qwertyui   qop]iet"

    What the hell is going on?

    edit: ive tried resetting the firmware and im still getting this problem - also getting it on other keys such as ]}

    The "=+" key is giving me not only double entries but is giving me crazy random stuff like "124`7\1608" now as well

    That's a fascinating set of symptoms, has the board ever had water damage?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:52:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 13 March 2016, 21:31:57
    Quote from: zombiegristle on Sun, 13 March 2016, 20:56:33
    Are there any "preferred" keyboards or other input methods for interacting with a computer while wearing gloves? Specifically, something for typing crap while working on a car without having to constantly don and doff that work gloves would be pretty handy...

    Many buckling springs boards have been found in autoshops.

    And the essence of many autoshops has been found inside buckling spring keyboards found in autoshops.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:53:01

    Quote from: zombiegristle on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:22:58
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:09:35
    All of a sudden I'm getting this really weird phenomenon with my duck viper...

    Pressing certain keys like I will result in two I's being placed (unless you tap it very quickly) and pressing K gives me something like the following:

    "Qetuquo[wetipwetpqiqweryweyiq]iwerty]iqweryitoryuiiyuo[eierwtyiqewrtyuiqetyriqweyriqweoryuiqwertyuiqop]iet"

    What the hell is going on?

    edit: ive tried resetting the firmware and im still getting this problem - also getting it on other keys such as ]}

    The "=+" key is giving me not only double entries but is giving me crazy random stuff like "124`7\1608" now as well

    That's a fascinating set of symptoms, has the board ever had water damage?

    Nope
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:55:29
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:09:35
    All of a sudden I'm getting this really weird phenomenon with my duck viper...

    Pressing certain keys like I will result in two I's being placed (unless you tap it very quickly) and pressing K gives me something like the following:

    "   Qetuquo[   wetip   wetpqi   qweryweyi   q]iwerty   ]iqweryi   toryuiiyuo[   eier   wtyiqe   wrtyui   qetyri   qweyri   qweoryui   qwertyui   qop]iet"

    What the hell is going on?

    edit: ive tried resetting the firmware and im still getting this problem - also getting it on other keys such as ]}

    The "=+" key is giving me not only double entries but is giving me crazy random stuff like "124`7\1608" now as well

    Do you have anything between the PCB and the metal case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:57:36

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:55:29
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:09:35
    All of a sudden I'm getting this really weird phenomenon with my duck viper...

    Pressing certain keys like I will result in two I's being placed (unless you tap it very quickly) and pressing K gives me something like the following:

    "Qetuquo[wetipwetpqiqweryweyiq]iwerty]iqweryitoryuiiyuo[eierwtyiqewrtyuiqetyriqweyriqweoryuiqwertyuiqop]iet"

    What the hell is going on?

    edit: ive tried resetting the firmware and im still getting this problem - also getting it on other keys such as ]}

    The "=+" key is giving me not only double entries but is giving me crazy random stuff like "124`7\1608" now as well

    Do you have anything between the PCB and the metal case?

    The board came prebuilt so I'm not sure exactly

    Haven't had a problem with it to date though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 14 March 2016, 01:20:43
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:55:29
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:09:35
    All of a sudden I'm getting this really weird phenomenon with my duck viper...

    Pressing certain keys like I will result in two I's being placed (unless you tap it very quickly) and pressing K gives me something like the following:

    "   Qetuquo[   wetip   wetpqi   qweryweyi   q]iwerty   ]iqweryi   toryuiiyuo[   eier   wtyiqe   wrtyui   qetyri   qweyri   qweoryui   qwertyui   qop]iet"

    What the hell is going on?

    edit: ive tried resetting the firmware and im still getting this problem - also getting it on other keys such as ]}

    The "=+" key is giving me not only double entries but is giving me crazy random stuff like "124`7\1608" now as well

    Do you have anything between the PCB and the metal case?

    I took the board apart - turns out there was nothing separating the pcb from the aluminium case....

    I put some sticky tape down on each of the standoffs and put it back together - working perfectly now

    Thanks man
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 14 March 2016, 04:27:36
    So, I don't think the problem is with my Blue Cube.

    It works perfectly on my moms PS/2 board, it seems to only have issues when I convert it from AT to PS/2 then to USB.

    It also didn't work properly when I converted a USB board to PS/2 and then back to USB.

    I'm not sure if another converter would work, any suggestions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 14 March 2016, 05:52:41
    Quote from: klennkellon on Mon, 14 March 2016, 04:27:36
    So, I don't think the problem is with my Blue Cube.

    It works perfectly on my moms PS/2 board, it seems to only have issues when I convert it from AT to PS/2 then to USB.

    It also didn't work properly when I converted a USB board to PS/2 and then back to USB.

    I'm not sure if another converter would work, any suggestions?

    The one techkeys.us sells has always worked for me even with AT -> PS/2

    techkeys.us/products/usb-to-ps2-serial-multimode-adapter

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Mon, 14 March 2016, 05:57:04
    Where is the list for all Korean customs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 14 March 2016, 06:08:41
    Quote from: xondat on Mon, 14 March 2016, 05:57:04
    Where is the list for all Korean customs?
    A quick search found this

     https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69711.0

    But I was thinking there was another one somewhere
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 March 2016, 08:46:02
    Quote from: klennkellon on Mon, 14 March 2016, 04:27:36
    So, I don't think the problem is with my Blue Cube.

    It works perfectly on my moms PS/2 board, it seems to only have issues when I convert it from AT to PS/2 then to USB.

    It also didn't work properly when I converted a USB board to PS/2 and then back to USB.

    I'm not sure if another converter would work, any suggestions?

    I still think either your PS/2 to USB or AT to PS/2 adapter is off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:28:05
    Will a Leeku PCB fit into a g81-1800 case?

    If so I think I know what I want for my next project o.o
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:34:45
    Quote from: Bromono on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:28:05
    Will a Leeku PCB fit into a g81-1800 case?

    If so I think I know what I want for my next project o.o

    Yes. You might have to do a little bit of cutting but I'm pretty sure I test fit mine into a G81-1800 case. It's been a little while since I've tried it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:36:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:34:45
    Quote from: Bromono on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:28:05
    Will a Leeku PCB fit into a g81-1800 case?

    If so I think I know what I want for my next project o.o

    Yes. You might have to do a little bit of cutting but I'm pretty sure I test fit mine into a G81-1800 case. It's been a little while since I've tried it.

    Sweet! They are considerbly cheaper then their counterparts and I only want the case so that is perfect
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 14 March 2016, 14:38:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 14 March 2016, 05:52:41
    Quote from: klennkellon on Mon, 14 March 2016, 04:27:36
    So, I don't think the problem is with my Blue Cube.

    It works perfectly on my moms PS/2 board, it seems to only have issues when I convert it from AT to PS/2 then to USB.

    It also didn't work properly when I converted a USB board to PS/2 and then back to USB.

    I'm not sure if another converter would work, any suggestions?

    The one techkeys.us sells has always worked for me even with AT -> PS/2

    techkeys.us/products/usb-to-ps2-serial-multimode-adapter
    Thanks, I'll check it out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 14 March 2016, 15:07:20
    Oops
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 March 2016, 15:11:56
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Mon, 14 March 2016, 15:07:20
    I just got a bunch of G81-1800s in today, I'd be willing to sell one for like $10+shipping.

    Please don't use this thread to buy and sell stuff. PMs is fine but I'm trying to keep this thread clean so that people don't see it as a way to avoid the classifieds rules.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 14 March 2016, 15:17:34
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 14 March 2016, 08:46:02
    Quote from: klennkellon on Mon, 14 March 2016, 04:27:36
    So, I don't think the problem is with my Blue Cube.

    It works perfectly on my moms PS/2 board, it seems to only have issues when I convert it from AT to PS/2 then to USB.

    It also didn't work properly when I converted a USB board to PS/2 and then back to USB.

    I'm not sure if another converter would work, any suggestions?

    I still think either your PS/2 to USB or AT to PS/2 adapter is off.

    It could still be, I'm going to try that adapter that spamray recommended, if it doesn't work, the Model M i'm getting is coming with an AT > PS/2 adapter so I'll try that one too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Mon, 14 March 2016, 17:37:46
    Quote from: poisened_blueberry on Sun, 13 March 2016, 19:18:08
    Anyone know the difference between these two? Which one would you get?

    http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/rapid-i/ vs http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfirerapidred/
    QFR-i is backlit and uses a much more powerful SM ARM controller. OTOH, the original QFR wasn't backlit and had a simpler controller (with PS/2 support), but it was possible to replace it by The Frosty Flake by bpiphany, enabling the user to run a custom firmware (at the cost of losing PS/2 compatibility).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 14 March 2016, 22:27:14
    i dont remmeber the name keybosrd it the idea wt using different
    height keycap for left and right hand stagger from japan site?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 16 March 2016, 23:47:16
    If i have a cherry MX keyboard with a single key that works 99% of the time, what should i be troubleshooting? Its really only a quick miss that autocorrect or a quick backspace and repeat corrects... but i'd like to make this my workhorse at the office so hopefully I can fix it.
    Should i desolder and replace or can i pull it apart with out desoldering and check the contacts? Point me in the right direction. K thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 March 2016, 06:59:44
    Quote from: boostdemon on Wed, 16 March 2016, 23:47:16
    If i have a cherry MX keyboard with a single key that works 99% of the time, what should i be troubleshooting? Its really only a quick miss that autocorrect or a quick backspace and repeat corrects... but i'd like to make this my workhorse at the office so hopefully I can fix it.
    Should i desolder and replace or can i pull it apart with out desoldering and check the contacts? Point me in the right direction. K thanks.
    Assuming it's the ducky board you posted about elsewhere it will be plate mounted and require desoldering to replace the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 17 March 2016, 08:57:47
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 March 2016, 06:59:44
    Quote from: boostdemon on Wed, 16 March 2016, 23:47:16
    If i have a cherry MX keyboard with a single key that works 99% of the time, what should i be troubleshooting? Its really only a quick miss that autocorrect or a quick backspace and repeat corrects... but i'd like to make this my workhorse at the office so hopefully I can fix it.
    Should i desolder and replace or can i pull it apart with out desoldering and check the contacts? Point me in the right direction. K thanks.
    Assuming it's the ducky board you posted about elsewhere it will be plate mounted and require desoldering to replace the switch.
    yup, thats the one ;D
    Ok i will give that a try first. It looks to be straight forward.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 17 March 2016, 14:38:42
    If I wanted to convert my Model M to DVORAK or COLEMAK would it be as simple as swapping the keycaps and autohotkey?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 17 March 2016, 14:43:54
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 17 March 2016, 14:38:42
    If I wanted to convert my Model M to DVORAK or COLEMAK would it be as simple as swapping the keycaps and autohotkey?

    yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 17 March 2016, 14:58:15
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 17 March 2016, 14:38:42
    If I wanted to convert my Model M to DVORAK or COLEMAK would it be as simple as swapping the keycaps and autohotkey?

    That would work, as fohat confirmed.  If you ever take the Model M to another machine (and want those changes to transfer with) or swap keyboards on that computer (and want the new keyboard to *not* have these changes), you may want to investigate hasu's TMK USB to USB converter (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0), which allows you to reprogram a board by essentially acting as an external controller to swap key inputs.  Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74708.0) is a review.  Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72052.0) is hasu's artisan thread to purchase.  Fair warning, I am not sure how a Model M will perform with it (hasu is uncertain (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.msg1717304#msg1717304), and njbair doesn't touch on it in his review unless I missed it).

    Alternatively, Phosphor Glow (http://phosphorglow.net/store/products/universal-model-m-usb-controller/) offers a replacement controller for Model M that will serve the same function but cannot be used with different keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 17 March 2016, 16:46:50
    i'm not positive, but wouldnt the key profiles be different?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:03:25
    Quote from: boostdemon on Thu, 17 March 2016, 16:46:50
    i'm not positive, but wouldnt the key profiles be different?

    BS cap profiles are all the same. It's the bend in the plate that changes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:51:33
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:53:21
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:51:33
    If I want to remove the floss mod from my ssk, how should I go about doing that?

    Just pull it out....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:03:06
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:53:21
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:51:33
    If I want to remove the floss mod from my ssk, how should I go about doing that?

    Just pull it out....

    Half of them will probably fall out if you turn it upside down and shake it hard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:05:01
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bromono on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:09:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:53:21
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 17:51:33
    If I want to remove the floss mod from my ssk, how should I go about doing that?

    Just pull it out....

    Sometimes it's just hard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:10:39
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:38:12
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:55:28
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:38:12
    Is there a proper way to put IBM back on?  Or am I thinking too much as usual >.> ??

    The keycaps?  You may need to tilt the keyboard back slightly to get the spring to seat properly in the cap.  Moreso with F than M (I literally tilt my Fs at a 90 deg angle).  Other than that, nah.  If it buckles properly, you're good, to the best of my knowledge.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 19:02:04
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 17 March 2016, 19:06:57
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:38:12
    Is there a proper way to put IBM back on?  Or am I thinking too much as usual >.> ??

    Seriously? Just push the button back into place. If it doesn't click properly when you press down on the cap, pull it back off, and push it back in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 17 March 2016, 19:10:39
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 19:02:04
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:55:28
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:38:12
    Is there a proper way to put IBM back on?  Or am I thinking too much as usual >.> ??

    The keycaps?  You may need to tilt the keyboard back slightly to get the spring to seat properly in the cap.  Moreso with F than M (I literally tilt my Fs at a 90 deg angle).  Other than that, nah.  If it buckles properly, you're good, to the best of my knowledge.

    backwards or forwards?

    The way that doesn't push it against the wall and make it impossible to put the cap on (backwards ;) ).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 17 March 2016, 19:30:10
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 17 March 2016, 19:10:39
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 19:02:04

    backwards or forwards?

    The way that doesn't push it against the wall and make it impossible to put the cap on

    Or the other way. For me, at least 90% usually go on OK just sitting there. For the pesky ones, I usually rock the board forward, and if that doesn't work, then I try backward. On rare occasions, I have even held it upside-down. Whatever works. It can take half a dozen tries, but they usually go on easily.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:50:47
    Little update on my ducky repair, i took it apart tonight and desoldered the H key and then swapped the switch out with a spare i had from a switch tester (gonna have to lower that price now lol) and so far everything seems to be working. I will know for sure tomorrow at work when it gets the full days use. Thanks for the help guys, i really appreciate it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Fri, 18 March 2016, 11:06:19
    I have a GH60 Rev. C.
    I would like to install LED's and I dont care much for being able to do fancy controls with them or anything like that. None of that zones stuff. Just all one color, all on together.

    Do I need to install resistors on all those allocated spots for them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 March 2016, 13:50:24
    Quote from: Fullcream on Fri, 18 March 2016, 11:06:19
    I have a GH60 Rev. C.
    I would like to install LED's and I dont care much for being able to do fancy controls with them or anything like that. None of that zones stuff. Just all one color, all on together.

    Do I need to install resistors on all those allocated spots for them?

    I don't think the controller is currently setup to support LEDs. As far as I know, the GH60 was designed to include LEDs later but there needed to be a new module installed. I could have very very outdated information though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dgneo on Fri, 18 March 2016, 13:52:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 March 2016, 13:50:24
    Quote from: Fullcream on Fri, 18 March 2016, 11:06:19
    I have a GH60 Rev. C.
    I would like to install LED's and I dont care much for being able to do fancy controls with them or anything like that. None of that zones stuff. Just all one color, all on together.

    Do I need to install resistors on all those allocated spots for them?

    I don't think the controller is currently setup to support LEDs. As far as I know, the GH60 was designed to include LEDs later but there needed to be a new module installed. I could have very very outdated information though.

    Zat iz korrekt.

    http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/#comment-133856

    "Hi,

    so far you have to use a 3rd party module if you need backlight, in the future there might be an expansion module for gh60 which will offer independent per-LED backlight, but that will cover only the gh60 board. Backlighting ghpad will require a separate solution.

    According to our settlements with geekhack, the rev. C files will be released when the group buy ends, and it has been delayed.

    Best regards,
    Michał"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:58:38
    I just got my Model M today. I really like it, but the stabilized keys are acting weird.

    The left shift key is binding really badly if you press it off center, and the right one seems to be binding on the upstroke and getting stuck.

    I've tried reseating the keys but it hasn't helped.

    Anyone know why this might be?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:00:23
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:58:38
    I just got my Model M today. I really like it, but the stabilized keys are acting weird.

    The left shift key is binding really badly if you press it off center, and the right one seems to be binding on the upstroke and getting stuck.

    I've tried reseating the keys but it hasn't helped.

    Anyone know why this might be?
    Sometimes it can take multiple reseats to fix any issues. Could be the rivets have broken and your hammers aren't aligned anymore.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:09:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:00:23
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 18 March 2016, 14:58:38
    I just got my Model M today. I really like it, but the stabilized keys are acting weird.

    The left shift key is binding really badly if you press it off center, and the right one seems to be binding on the upstroke and getting stuck.

    I've tried reseating the keys but it hasn't helped.

    Anyone know why this might be?
    Sometimes it can take multiple reseats to fix any issues. Could be the rivets have broken and your hammers aren't aligned anymore.

    Only those keys though? I've done a keyboard test and every single key consistently worked, including the ones mentioned.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:11:18
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 18 March 2016, 15:09:45
    Only those keys though? I've done a keyboard test and every single key consistently worked, including the ones mentioned.

    I don't know exactly because I don't have the board in front of me. Keyboard test only tests for continuity electronically. Doesn't mean there's nothing physically wrong.

    Maybe your stabilizers aren't seated right. Maybe your caps aren't seated right. Maybe the rivets are broken. I'd check all those.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 18 March 2016, 17:09:30
    I took out the stabilizers and cleaned them with glasses cleaner and a q-tip and now they work fine.

    It wasn't the springs that were the problem, the switches worked fine with a smaller keycap on them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 14:35:41
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ironpup on Sat, 19 March 2016, 15:44:34
    I just updated my mac to El Capitan and my HHKB stopped being able to wake it from sleep. It's a 2011 iMac and I did a clean install of El Capitan with the keyboard plugged in, using it to type in all the set up stuff for a "new" mac. I have tried with and without the driver installed, different usb cables, different usb ports, restarting my computer, a bunch of dip switch combinations, and I even unplugged and replugged the controller. I have also updated the "change keyboard type" setting every time I changed something. My planck wakes my computer from sleep just fine, and the HHKB wakes up my 12" MacBook running the same version of OS X. It was working fine when I was running Yosemite.
    The real kicker, and why I don't want to just use my house is - It will also be unresponsive for the first 5 or so keypresses after sleep
    Any suggestions on fixes past buying a hasu controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 19 March 2016, 15:47:07
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 14:35:41
    Does this sound ok?  I listened to music while typing to remove any bias I had towards the sound since I have only ever typed with the floss mod installed:


    Sounds fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 21 March 2016, 00:42:08
    Im putting together a VE.A for someone and im not getting any reads on the keys f7 through to f12 - any idea on what the likely culprit is?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 21 March 2016, 05:00:44
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 18 March 2016, 17:09:30
    I took out the stabilizers and cleaned them with glasses cleaner and a q-tip and now they work fine.

    It wasn't the springs that were the problem, the switches worked fine with a smaller keycap on them.

    I've also heard that those barrel inserts on the longer keys can get slightly out of alignment, and might need to be straightened a bit.

    That worked for one of my SSKs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 21 March 2016, 08:35:06
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Mon, 21 March 2016, 00:42:08
    Im putting together a VE.A for someone and im not getting any reads on the keys f7 through to f12 - any idea on what the likely culprit is?
    Cold solder joints
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mrbishop on Mon, 21 March 2016, 08:59:55
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Mon, 21 March 2016, 00:42:08
    Im putting together a VE.A for someone and im not getting any reads on the keys f7 through to f12 - any idea on what the likely culprit is?

    do any of the keys on that row work? if not check the end of the trace to the controller. may be a broken solder joint or separated resistor. i can't seem to find a diagram of the PCB so its kinda hard to tell.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Tue, 22 March 2016, 23:18:55
    which image is correct for the weighting of the variable RF's?

    More
    (http://i.imgur.com/X6g6Y.jpg)
    (https://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/87u_ergochart_1000_th0x0.png)
    (https://mechkb.com/media/catalog/product/r/e/realforce_variable_1.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 23 March 2016, 00:25:38
    About half of the keys on my Model M feel very smooth, but the other half feel sandy and scratchy, I tried popping the caps off and giving the barrel and stems a wipe with some alcohol but it didn't do anything.

    The keys on the numpad are also binding with eachother, like the 6 key is hitting the 9 key. I've tried reseating a couple of times but no luck

    Is this the result of rivet loss? I plan to send it to phosphor soon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zennasyndroxx on Wed, 23 March 2016, 00:29:17
    HOW DO I DRILL MY HHKB CASE FOR NOVATOUCH STABILIZERS PLEASE HALP !!!111!1!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ipreferpie on Wed, 23 March 2016, 07:30:53

    Quote from: zennasyndroxx on Wed, 23 March 2016, 00:29:17
    HOW DO I DRILL MY HHKB CASE FOR NOVATOUCH STABILIZERS PLEASE HALP !!!111!1!

    Yes, totally like to echo that. Any videos on it? And recommended dremels?

    I think drilling for the mod stabilizers should be easier. But anyone have specific guides on how to move the spacebar stabilizers to be compatible with MX?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zennasyndroxx on Wed, 23 March 2016, 08:16:17
    Quote from: ipreferpie on Wed, 23 March 2016, 07:30:53

    Quote from: zennasyndroxx on Wed, 23 March 2016, 00:29:17
    HOW DO I DRILL MY HHKB CASE FOR NOVATOUCH STABILIZERS PLEASE HALP !!!111!1!

    Yes, totally like to echo that. Any videos on it? And recommended dremels?

    I think drilling for the mod stabilizers should be easier. But anyone have specific guides on how to move the spacebar stabilizers to be compatible with MX?
    I'm going to answer my own question right here.

    I've used a Dremel 3000 to do this.

    (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160323/a5438af51829e64c44f4dad60565e294.jpg)

    Just done it like moments ago.

    You would have to drill a hole big enough for the novatouch stabs and the mx cap stab stems to go through. If you don't want to hurt your hhkb, you can Dremel your novatouch stabs and your mx cap stab stems.

    Also, I don't think there's any Dremel needed for Spacebars when you can just replace the stab housing and the switch slider.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 23 March 2016, 15:54:33
    Quote from: nmur on Tue, 22 March 2016, 23:18:55
    which image is correct for the weighting of the variable RF's?

    More
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/X6g6Y.jpg)

    Show Image
    (https://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/87u_ergochart_1000_th0x0.png)

    Show Image
    (https://mechkb.com/media/catalog/product/r/e/realforce_variable_1.png)
    I think these are the same. Just different colors.
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 23 March 2016, 00:25:38
    About half of the keys on my Model M feel very smooth, but the other half feel sandy and scratchy, I tried popping the caps off and giving the barrel and stems a wipe with some alcohol but it didn't do anything.

    The keys on the numpad are also binding with eachother, like the 6 key is hitting the 9 key. I've tried reseating a couple of times but no luck

    Is this the result of rivet loss? I plan to send it to phosphor soon
    Sounds like rivet issues or something internally
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sempre on Wed, 23 March 2016, 22:41:18
    I'll be doing an ergo mod but while I'm at it I'm thinking of replacing the Clear sliders (which are very tight with keycaps) with Blue sliders. Would that work out, or does the sliders differ between switch types?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ipreferpie on Wed, 23 March 2016, 23:18:55

    Quote from: zennasyndroxx on Wed, 23 March 2016, 08:16:17
    Quote from: ipreferpie on Wed, 23 March 2016, 07:30:53

    Quote from: zennasyndroxx on Wed, 23 March 2016, 00:29:17
    HOW DO I DRILL MY HHKB CASE FOR NOVATOUCH STABILIZERS PLEASE HALP !!!111!1!

    Yes, totally like to echo that. Any videos on it? And recommended dremels?

    I think drilling for the mod stabilizers should be easier. But anyone have specific guides on how to move the spacebar stabilizers to be compatible with MX?
    I'm going to answer my own question right here.

    I've used a Dremel 3000 to do this.

    Show Image
    (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160323/a5438af51829e64c44f4dad60565e294.jpg)


    Just done it like moments ago.

    You would have to drill a hole big enough for the novatouch stabs and the mx cap stab stems to go through. If you don't want to hurt your hhkb, you can Dremel your novatouch stabs and your mx cap stab stems.

    Also, I don't think there's any Dremel needed for Spacebars when you can just replace the stab housing and the switch slider.

    Excellent work! Thanks for that. As for the space bar, I can change out the housing, but the spacing isn't following the 10mm(?) distance width of the typical MX spacebars, and it  is closer to 9.5mm. Was wondering if anyone is successfully increased the width and seated the housings correctly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: loomin on Wed, 23 March 2016, 23:35:43
    Are futaba switches worth trying? Can someone with experience with them compare them to mx blues?
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 23 March 2016, 23:40:52
    Quote from: loomin on Wed, 23 March 2016, 23:35:43
    Are futaba switches worth trying? Can someone with experience with them compare them to mx blues?
    Thanks
    They're notorious for being very smooth, and they click on the downstroke AND the upstroke, about 60g actuation force compared to 50g for MX Blues. They are also MX Compatible.

    I don't know about their tactility or actuation point though, my guess is they would be more tactile (almost any other clicky switch is more tactile than MX Blues)

    There is also a linear variant, which looks identical to the clicky variant, but it's much rarer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: loomin on Wed, 23 March 2016, 23:52:22
    Thanks for the info  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 24 March 2016, 00:33:01
    Quote from: Sempre on Wed, 23 March 2016, 22:41:18
    I'll be doing an ergo mod but while I'm at it I'm thinking of replacing the Clear sliders (which are very tight with keycaps) with Blue sliders. Would that work out, or does the sliders differ between switch types?

    You can swap out the sliders no problem, but you would end up with the clicky characteristics of the blue switch, rather than the tactile characteristics of the clear switch.

    You could consider turning your blues into Jailhouse blues (I don't have a link, but there are a few good resources on here -- try searching on google using site:geekhack.org instead of using the built-in search). You could also look into purple zealio switches, they have all the characteristics of ergo clears, but without the added projections on the cruciform that make MX clears so tight on caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sempre on Thu, 24 March 2016, 08:43:32
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 24 March 2016, 00:33:01
    Quote from: Sempre on Wed, 23 March 2016, 22:41:18
    I'll be doing an ergo mod but while I'm at it I'm thinking of replacing the Clear sliders (which are very tight with keycaps) with Blue sliders. Would that work out, or does the sliders differ between switch types?

    You can swap out the sliders no problem, but you would end up with the clicky characteristics of the blue switch, rather than the tactile characteristics of the clear switch.

    You could consider turning your blues into Jailhouse blues (I don't have a link, but there are a few good resources on here -- try searching on google using site:geekhack.org instead of using the built-in search). You could also look into purple zealio switches, they have all the characteristics of ergo clears, but without the added projections on the cruciform that make MX clears so tight on caps.

    Thanks. I'll look into jailhouse blues, sounds fun.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: azhdar on Thu, 24 March 2016, 09:47:36
    (http://puu.sh/nSg3h/1d90a3fe0e.png)

    One column is acting up on one of my keyboard, what should I look for on the pcb ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 24 March 2016, 13:15:29
    Quote from: azhdar on Thu, 24 March 2016, 09:47:36
    Show Image
    (http://puu.sh/nSg3h/1d90a3fe0e.png)


    One column is acting up on one of my keyboard, what should I look for on the pcb ?

    Broken traces or cold solder joints, the cold solder joints could look cracked and might leave components loose. Follow the trace for that column and look for any inconsistencies.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 24 March 2016, 14:25:34
    There is a huge gap between the top part of my Model M's case and the bottom half. they just won't align properly, the top part with the screws is fine.

    It looks really ugly, does anyone know why this is happening?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CapnHighlands on Thu, 24 March 2016, 14:38:07
    I just got a Pok3r with browns, and some of the keys (especially the right side) feel very stiff. Why is this? Is it something I should RMA?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 24 March 2016, 14:58:02
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CapnHighlands on Thu, 24 March 2016, 15:01:05
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 24 March 2016, 14:58:02
    are they stabilized keys? stock stabs may make the keys feel thicker.

    The shift key definitely feels really heavy. I figure that the stabilizers were making it feel much more heavy. But no, it's not just stabilized keys. It feels like the whole right side of the board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 24 March 2016, 21:02:46
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 24 March 2016, 14:25:34
    There is a huge gap between the top part of my Model M's case and the bottom half. they just won't align properly, the top part with the screws is fine.

    It looks really ugly, does anyone know why this is happening?

    Seat the internal assemble on the pegs, slip the tabs into the slot(s) at the front (spacebar) side, and screw down the back last.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 24 March 2016, 21:13:58
    Quote from: CapnHighlands on Thu, 24 March 2016, 14:38:07
    I just got a Pok3r with browns, and some of the keys (especially the right side) feel very stiff. Why is this? Is it something I should RMA?
    Could be the switches need to be worn in a bit.
    Quote from: loomin on Wed, 23 March 2016, 23:35:43
    Are futaba switches worth trying? Can someone with experience with them compare them to mx blues?
    Thanks
    Definitely worth trying out. Like it was said before I think there's more than just clicky futaba. But I think the clicky futaba were smoother than MX Blues. The click was kinda loud like White Alps too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 24 March 2016, 23:55:57
    Quote from: loomin on Wed, 23 March 2016, 23:35:43
    Are futaba switches worth trying? Can someone with experience with them compare them to mx blues?
    Thanks

    I had some futabas for a bit. Honestly wish I had the board back, really loved those switches
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 25 March 2016, 00:30:04
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 24 March 2016, 21:02:46
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 24 March 2016, 14:25:34
    There is a huge gap between the top part of my Model M's case and the bottom half. they just won't align properly, the top part with the screws is fine.

    It looks really ugly, does anyone know why this is happening?

    Seat the internal assemble on the pegs, slip the tabs into the slot(s) at the front (spacebar) side, and screw down the back last.
    I tried this but it didn't work.

    The case snaps together nicely when the keyboard isn't in it, but the bottom half refuses to snap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 25 March 2016, 02:55:04
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 24 March 2016, 21:02:46
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 24 March 2016, 14:25:34
    There is a huge gap between the top part of my Model M's case and the bottom half. they just won't align properly, the top part with the screws is fine.

    It looks really ugly, does anyone know why this is happening?

    Seat the internal assemble on the pegs, slip the tabs into the slot(s) at the front (spacebar) side, and screw down the back last.
    what slots are youi talking about" I don't see anything for them to slip into.

    The case clamps together nicely when there is no keyboard inside of it. but it just wont work otherwise.

    It seems like it will latch, and then when the top part of the case falls back all of the clamps pop out

    I'm just going to send it to phosphor, it has bigger issues that a finicky case
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 25 March 2016, 08:15:31
    There is almost no clearance between bottom plate and case at the front (spacebar) side so if you did a bolt mod and any screws are protruding, that could be a problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 25 March 2016, 16:25:20
    I fixed it.

    I was trying to set the keyboard on top of the clips at the bottom, but the board actually slips under them.

    I couldn't slip it under because a peg on the right was bent down somehow, so I broke it off, it's fine now!

    I feel like in the 29 years this keyboard has existed it must have been dropped or had something dropped on it more than once.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlukeNukem on Fri, 25 March 2016, 22:01:54
    I've got a model f bigfoot that I'd like to put xwhatsit's controller on, but the bigfoot uses a 4x23 matrix.  The model f version of the controller only supports up to 16 columns but the beamsprings also had a 4x23 grid.  My question is can I use the xwhatsit beamspring controller on the bigfoot or will the firmware not work with model f style switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 25 March 2016, 23:14:42
    Is there a tutorial anywhere for writing your own keyboard firmware? I've got several boards that use some weird connector or protocol and I'd like to get them working. I know you can handwire boards, but how do you program them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sat, 26 March 2016, 04:54:47
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 25 March 2016, 23:14:42
    Is there a tutorial anywhere for writing your own keyboard firmware? I've got several boards that use some weird connector or protocol and I'd like to get them working. I know you can handwire boards, but how do you program them?

    It's not a tutorial, but there's a short C example here: https://github.com/technomancy/atreus-firmware/blob/5fdd52500c59130ff80a58f62cd3a030ed6571f1/atreus.c
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 26 March 2016, 14:26:43
    Quote from: FlukeNukem on Fri, 25 March 2016, 22:01:54
    I've got a model f bigfoot that I'd like to put xwhatsit's controller on, but the bigfoot uses a 4x23 matrix.  The model f version of the controller only supports up to 16 columns but the beamsprings also had a 4x23 grid.  My question is can I use the xwhatsit beamspring controller on the bigfoot or will the firmware not work with model f style switches?

    I don't think the chips on the two controllers are the same. I'd PM Melvang and ask him though. He's recently converted a Bigfoot. Fohat.digs would know too I believe.



    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 25 March 2016, 23:14:42
    Is there a tutorial anywhere for writing your own keyboard firmware? I've got several boards that use some weird connector or protocol and I'd like to get them working. I know you can handwire boards, but how do you program them?

    Hit up Haata or Dorkvader.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sat, 26 March 2016, 16:37:25
    Would swapping the springs from a half destroyed IBM Model F into a functional Model M effect the feel much? I've heard the springs on the F's are lighter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlukeNukem on Sat, 26 March 2016, 17:47:15
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sat, 26 March 2016, 16:37:25
    Would swapping the springs from a half destroyed IBM Model F into a functional Model M effect the feel much? I've heard the springs on the F's are lighter.

    I thought the springs were heavier on the model m because they had to be to properly actuate the smaller hammer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 26 March 2016, 19:51:36
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sat, 26 March 2016, 16:37:25
    Would swapping the springs from a half destroyed IBM Model F into a functional Model M effect the feel much? I've heard the springs on the F's are lighter.

    **** I swear someone just tried this experiment out but I don't remember what/where that thread is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 26 March 2016, 20:09:09
    I thought the hammers on the model F springs were too big for a model M?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 26 March 2016, 22:11:29
    I think that they are talking about the springs, not the pivot plates.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sat, 26 March 2016, 23:15:44
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 26 March 2016, 22:11:29
    I think that they are talking about the springs, not the pivot plates.
    Yes, just the springs.

    I wonder if it would be possible to swap them out using the chopstick method.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 March 2016, 09:01:49
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sat, 26 March 2016, 23:15:44
    I wonder if it would be possible to swap them out using the chopstick method.

    I don't see why not, but I have never tried the chopstick method personally.

    Also personally untested, the "pop rivet" tool method looks much better for installing the new spring.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sun, 27 March 2016, 14:51:25
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 March 2016, 09:01:49
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sat, 26 March 2016, 23:15:44
    I wonder if it would be possible to swap them out using the chopstick method.

    I don't see why not, but I have never tried the chopstick method personally.

    Also personally untested, the "pop rivet" tool method looks much better for installing the new spring.
    How does this method work?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 March 2016, 15:12:59
    Sorry, I can never find it again. A couple of years ago somebody took a pop rivet apart and modified the "collar" part to make a press.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 27 March 2016, 15:33:54
    Link for the switch sticker in GH CAD Resources Hub is currently down.

    Anyone know another source, or potentially downloaded the templates before?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 27 March 2016, 18:55:28
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 March 2016, 15:12:59
    Sorry, I can never find it again. A couple of years ago somebody took a pop rivet apart and modified the "collar" part to make a press.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63278.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 0100010 on Tue, 29 March 2016, 17:30:59
    Paging jdcarpe:

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 15:58:06
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 25 June 2013, 13:18:40
    Does anyone know the part number for PCB mounted Costar or Cherry stabilizers?

    There is no such thing as "PCB Mounted" Costar stabilizers. All Costar stabilizers attach to the plate.
     
    Cherry "Plate Mounted" stabilizers are parts: G99-0224 (1x2, 1x2.25, 1x2.75), G99-0379 (1x7), and G99-0226 (1x8, 1x9, 1x10).
     
    These Cherry part numbers are "without frame". Without frame means no plate or PCB, I've personally confirmed it by ordering these parts from Mouser. : G99-0742 (1x2, 1x2.25, 1x2.75), G99-0745 (1x7), and G99-0744 (1x8, 1x9, 1x10).
     
    This is the link from Cherry: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm

    Can you expand upon what that above in bold means?  I know Cherry stabs come in PCB or plate mount - and the plate mount part numbers are clear.  Does your description above mean the other listed part numbers are NOT PCB mount - and some other otherwise useless type?  If so - what are the PCB mount part numbers?

    One can get Cherry plate mounted 7x spacebar stabs (G99-0379) from Mouser for 50 cents each, but in order to get the other type (G99-0745), one would have to order 250 @ 33 cents each.  [Not that I am in need of any stabs at the moment - just trying to get clarity for reference.]

    Note that the current Cherry MX part information no longer has the complete list anymore.

    Old List :
    (http://s15.postimg.org/8gi85gem3/oldcherrymx.png)

    New List :
    (http://s14.postimg.org/f0ry1n1yp/newcherrymx.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 29 March 2016, 19:21:53
    Quote from: 0100010 on Tue, 29 March 2016, 17:30:59
    Can you expand upon what that above in bold means?  I know Cherry stabs come in PCB or plate mount - and the plate mount part numbers are clear.  Does your description above mean the other listed part numbers are NOT PCB mount - and some other otherwise useless type?  If so - what are the PCB mount part numbers?

    I should have written: "Without frame means: not plate mount, in other words, these are PCB mount"

    Now they use the equally ambiguous "with pins" and "without pins." I assume they mean PCB mounting pins.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 0100010 on Tue, 29 March 2016, 21:03:30
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 29 March 2016, 19:21:53
    Quote from: 0100010 on Tue, 29 March 2016, 17:30:59
    Can you expand upon what that above in bold means?  I know Cherry stabs come in PCB or plate mount - and the plate mount part numbers are clear.  Does your description above mean the other listed part numbers are NOT PCB mount - and some other otherwise useless type?  If so - what are the PCB mount part numbers?

    I should have written: "Without frame means: not plate mount, in other words, these are PCB mount"

    Now they use the equally ambiguous "with pins" and "without pins." I assume they mean PCB mounting pins.

    Awesome - thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 30 March 2016, 14:15:15
    Was wondering if springing for a novatouch would be right for me.

    I had a CODE TKL with mx clears and loved it. Unfortunately when I moved to my new job my code just stopped registering when plugged in - I think maybe the usb connection is loose, but haven't had time to check it out.

    I have a poker 2 with mx blues and really like the feel, but it's a bit loud for work, and as a programmer the fact that I have to use the Fn key so much really gets in the way.

    I have a unicomp buckling spring at home, but that would definitely be too loud.

    I hear good things about topre, and wanted a novatouch so I could modify the keycaps when I am in the mood for a chance.

    How does the Topre compare with MX Clear/Blues, or buckling spring? What about those Matias Quiet Pro (alps?) switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: the big aristotle on Wed, 30 March 2016, 14:22:19
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G80-8963-G80-8963LUBUS-2-Wired-Keyboard-SAVE-/231885291919?hash=item35fd70c18f:g:SR8AAOSwKtVWyHp7

    These caps are mx compatible, correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 March 2016, 14:23:08
    Quote from: elcubismo on Wed, 30 March 2016, 14:15:15
    Was wondering if springing for a novatouch would be right for me.

    I had a CODE TKL with mx clears and loved it. Unfortunately when I moved to my new job my code just stopped registering when plugged in - I think maybe the usb connection is loose, but haven't had time to check it out.

    I have a poker 2 with mx blues and really like the feel, but it's a bit loud for work, and as a programmer the fact that I have to use the Fn key so much really gets in the way.

    I have a unicomp buckling spring at home, but that would definitely be too loud.

    I hear good things about topre, and wanted a novatouch so I could modify the keycaps when I am in the mood for a chance.

    How does the Topre compare with MX Clear/Blues, or buckling spring? What about those Matias Quiet Pro (alps?) switches?

    Unfortunately the only way to figure it out 100% for yourself is to try them. Topre is unique from the other switches IMO and I personally dislike them. I'll never advocate anyone buys Topre if I'm asked that straight up. You can ask ten other people and get ten different opinions. If you like tactile switches and need it to be quiet, try the Novatouch and see if it's for you. At worst you can resell it for little loss of what you paid since keyboards and Topre boards generally keep their values. I personally much prefer Matias Quiet Pro switches.

    Quote from: the big aristotle on Wed, 30 March 2016, 14:22:19
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G80-8963-G80-8963LUBUS-2-Wired-Keyboard-SAVE-/231885291919?hash=item35fd70c18f:g:SR8AAOSwKtVWyHp7

    These caps are mx compatible, correct?

    They're not MX compatible, they ARE Cherry MX caps. The label says it's a G80 keyboard. And the L means that the caps are probably lasered POM caps (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 30 March 2016, 14:32:03
    Definitely lasered POM. I've had several G80-8113s.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 31 March 2016, 08:51:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 March 2016, 14:23:08

    Unfortunately the only way to figure it out 100% for yourself is to try them. Topre is unique from the other switches IMO and I personally dislike them. I'll never advocate anyone buys Topre if I'm asked that straight up. You can ask ten other people and get ten different opinions. If you like tactile switches and need it to be quiet, try the Novatouch and see if it's for you. At worst you can resell it for little loss of what you paid since keyboards and Topre boards generally keep their values. I personally much prefer Matias Quiet Pro switches.

    Thanks for the advice. I might have to try a topre out. I missed a pretty good drop for quiet pro tkl not too long ago.

    As an alternative, would o-rings help a bit? There's a massdrop for 120 o-rings for pretty cheap.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 March 2016, 10:37:39
    Quote from: elcubismo on Thu, 31 March 2016, 08:51:04
    As an alternative, would o-rings help a bit? There's a massdrop for 120 o-rings for pretty cheap.

    As an alternative to what?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pwade3 on Thu, 31 March 2016, 13:05:51
    Does Signature Plastics make Alps-compatible DSA keycaps? I was having a conversation over on /r/mk about the Planck drop and when you choose caps it doesn't say specifically.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 31 March 2016, 16:50:50
    Quote from: pwade3 on Thu, 31 March 2016, 13:05:51
    Does Signature Plastics make Alps-compatible DSA keycaps? I was having a conversation over on /r/mk about the Planck drop and when you choose caps it doesn't say specifically.

    They have some Alps options, but not a ton. Just church their website and you'll see what they have available.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 31 March 2016, 18:39:59
    Quote from: pwade3 on Thu, 31 March 2016, 13:05:51
    Does Signature Plastics make Alps-compatible DSA keycaps? I was having a conversation over on /r/mk about the Planck drop and when you choose caps it doesn't say specifically.
    yes they makes a DSA alps compatible keycaps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:03:37
    Does anybody here game on a 122 key Model M or Model F? Do you find that your mouse room is greatly limited?

    I prefer TKL, but using a full size Model M has been tolerable, most of the extra room of the 122 key looks like it's on the left side of the keyboard, so it shouldn't be much worse than a Regular Model M ,right?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:06:06
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:03:37
    Does anybody here game on a 122 key Model M or Model F? Do you find that your mouse room is greatly limited?

    I prefer TKL, but using a full size Model M has been tolerable, most of the extra room of the 122 key looks like it's on the left side of the keyboard, so it shouldn't be much worse than a Regular Model M ,right?

    Should feel the same as a full size M since all the extra is to the top and left like you said.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlukeNukem on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:18:03
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:03:37
    Does anybody here game on a 122 key Model M or Model F? Do you find that your mouse room is greatly limited?

    I prefer TKL, but using a full size Model M has been tolerable, most of the extra room of the 122 key looks like it's on the left side of the keyboard, so it shouldn't be much worse than a Regular Model M ,right?

    Remaping your movement keys from wasd to ijkl or yghj helps a lot on fullsize keyboards.  It also gives you better options for binding keys to the left of your movement cluster.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:19:03
    Quote from: FlukeNukem on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:18:03
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:03:37
    Does anybody here game on a 122 key Model M or Model F? Do you find that your mouse room is greatly limited?

    I prefer TKL, but using a full size Model M has been tolerable, most of the extra room of the 122 key looks like it's on the left side of the keyboard, so it shouldn't be much worse than a Regular Model M ,right?

    Remaping your movement keys from wasd to ijkl or yghj helps a lot on fullsize keyboards.  It also gives you better options for binding keys to the left of your movement cluster.

    Wow, never thought of that, thanks I'll have to try it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:38:40
    Quote from: FlukeNukem on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:18:03
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:03:37
    Does anybody here game on a 122 key Model M or Model F? Do you find that your mouse room is greatly limited?

    I prefer TKL, but using a full size Model M has been tolerable, most of the extra room of the 122 key looks like it's on the left side of the keyboard, so it shouldn't be much worse than a Regular Model M ,right?

    Remaping your movement keys from wasd to ijkl or yghj helps a lot on fullsize keyboards.  It also gives you better options for binding keys to the left of your movement cluster.

    fukin genius
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 03 April 2016, 20:46:48
    Are there any resources to bending your own stabilizer wire for Alps keyboards?  I seem to have run across it before, but I cannot find anything after a brief search of the forum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Mon, 04 April 2016, 05:37:23
    can i edit ergodoxlayout.hex? there were hex software?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 April 2016, 06:02:27
    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Sun, 03 April 2016, 20:46:48
    Are there any resources to bending your own stabilizer wire for Alps keyboards?  I seem to have run across it before, but I cannot find anything after a brief search of the forum.

    There's this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_NN

    And sorry it's a bit vague, but there's lots of stabiliser wire bending references here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75491.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Mon, 04 April 2016, 06:11:45
    any US-based geekhackers doing proxy service? i messaged dorkvader asking if he still does it, but i haven't gotten a response yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 April 2016, 09:04:58
    Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 04 April 2016, 05:37:23
    can i edit ergodoxlayout.hex? there were hex software?

    A hex file is the layout that is generated from layout programmers such as this one (https://keyboard-configurator.massdrop.com/ext/ergodox). Some of the other layout programmers allow you to load .hex files in and edit them. I'd try one of those.

    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 04 April 2016, 06:11:45
    any US-based geekhackers doing proxy service? i messaged dorkvader asking if he still does it, but i haven't gotten a response yet.

    Who are doing it openly? Not that I know of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Mon, 04 April 2016, 09:54:38
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 April 2016, 09:04:58
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 04 April 2016, 06:11:45
    any US-based geekhackers doing proxy service? i messaged dorkvader asking if he still does it, but i haven't gotten a response yet.
    Who are doing it openly? Not that I know of.

    i found this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37277.0
    but it's old
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Mon, 04 April 2016, 21:59:14
    Has anybody used this site (https://www.ponoko.com/) for making a keyboard plate? They seem to have good prices.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Tue, 05 April 2016, 15:20:35
    Quote from: piemancoder on Mon, 04 April 2016, 21:59:14
    Has anybody used this site (https://www.ponoko.com/) for making a keyboard plate? They seem to have good prices.
    Yup, I've seen a couple of redditors have plates/cases cut there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: the6god on Tue, 05 April 2016, 15:28:00
    Hey, Geeks,help please, what is keyboard name?
    https://scontent-frt3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12383253_1352988294717982_993520392_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTIxODEwNTAzNDUzNDA1MTU2OA%3D%3D.2
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 April 2016, 16:24:45
    Quote from: the6god on Tue, 05 April 2016, 15:28:00
    Hey, Geeks,help please, what is keyboard name?
    https://scontent-frt3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12383253_1352988294717982_993520392_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTIxODEwNTAzNDUzNDA1MTU2OA%3D%3D.2
    Got a better picture or a name of the account? That's not a great pic to ID
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: the6god on Tue, 05 April 2016, 16:50:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 April 2016, 16:24:45
    Quote from: the6god on Tue, 05 April 2016, 15:28:00
    Hey, Geeks,help please, what is keyboard name?
    https://scontent-frt3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12383253_1352988294717982_993520392_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTIxODEwNTAzNDUzNDA1MTU2OA%3D%3D.2
    Got a better picture or a name of the account? That's not a great pic to ID
    I know, but I have only this one :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 05 April 2016, 18:34:50
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 05 April 2016, 20:32:19
    There is a Model F Unsaver I really want, however it uses a really strange terminal connector that looks like a black VGA cable.

    Is there any converter to buy on Ebay that converts it to PS/2?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 05 April 2016, 20:47:28
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 04 April 2016, 06:11:45
    any US-based geekhackers doing proxy service? i messaged dorkvader asking if he still does it, but i haven't gotten a response yet.

    Dorkvader is rather inactive of late.

    I will proxy.  I only ask for a few dollars extra for the service.  Send me a PM.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 05 April 2016, 20:49:24
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 04 April 2016, 06:02:27
    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Sun, 03 April 2016, 20:46:48
    Are there any resources to bending your own stabilizer wire for Alps keyboards?  I seem to have run across it before, but I cannot find anything after a brief search of the forum.

    There's this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_NN

    And sorry it's a bit vague, but there's lots of stabiliser wire bending references here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75491.0

    Thanks.  I know it is somewhere in the Alps Party thread, but I am not in the mood to sift through it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 April 2016, 21:15:55
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 05 April 2016, 20:32:19
    There is a Model F Unsaver I really want, however it uses a really strange terminal connector that looks like a black VGA cable.

    Is there any converter to buy on Ebay that converts it to PS/2?

    No converters on eBay. You'll have to track down an xwhatsit converter. Or maybe phosphorglow has a converter. And you'll have to solder it in yourself (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62100.15).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 April 2016, 11:19:14
    I need a US proxy that can receive some cases and send them to me - where do I look?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 April 2016, 11:53:43
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 06 April 2016, 11:19:14
    I need a US proxy that can receive some cases and send them to me - where do I look?

    Quote from: vivalarevolución on Tue, 05 April 2016, 20:47:28
    Quote from: Bucake on Mon, 04 April 2016, 06:11:45
    any US-based geekhackers doing proxy service? i messaged dorkvader asking if he still does it, but i haven't gotten a response yet.

    Dorkvader is rather inactive of late.

    I will proxy.  I only ask for a few dollars extra for the service.  Send me a PM.
    Looks like viva is doing it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 06 April 2016, 12:29:11
    How easy is it program the OTD boards, the 365c for example?  For comparison I think that programming duck boards is easy.  I'm only looking to do simple things like making caps lock as control, is that easy to do on the 365c for example?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 07 April 2016, 00:21:23
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 06 April 2016, 12:29:11
    How easy is it program the OTD boards, the 365c for example?  For comparison I think that programming duck boards is easy.  I'm only looking to do simple things like making caps lock as control, is that easy to do on the 365c for example?
    I've never heard of this 365c otd keyboard   but I hear that its kinda hard to programs ekcept you're using the gons controller
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 09 April 2016, 09:15:46
    anyone know where I can purchase one of the Leopold velcro straps that boards come with. Lost the one for my 660C and it angers me to no end!

    I've looked up some generic ones on ebay but would really like to find the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dimsley on Sun, 10 April 2016, 15:03:48
    Hi!
    I found one of these.. What on earth is it? And what are those switches?
    Well aside from Osborne.. Theres a plate on the back that says Aquarius Systems Inc. AKI-860, Made in Taiwan R.O.C.
    Have been searching but can't find anything about it on google. I'm a real beginner when it comes to old keyboards but really intrigued.

    Here are some photos. I apologize for quality.

    Front: (http://i.imgur.com/taDvOLt.jpg)
    Switch: (http://i.imgur.com/kuxFxy0.jpg)

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 April 2016, 15:46:44
    Quote from: dimsley on Sun, 10 April 2016, 15:03:48
    Hi!
    I found one of these.. What on earth is it? And what are those switches?
    Well aside from Osborne.. Theres a plate on the back that says Aquarius Systems Inc. AKI-860, Made in Taiwan R.O.C.
    Have been searching but can't find anything about it on google. I'm a real beginner when it comes to old keyboards but really intrigued.

    Here are some photos. I apologize for quality.

    Front:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/taDvOLt.jpg)

    Switch:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kuxFxy0.jpg)


    Thanks!
    Looks like SKCM Blue Alps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 10 April 2016, 15:50:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 April 2016, 15:46:44
    Quote from: dimsley on Sun, 10 April 2016, 15:03:48
    Hi!
    I found one of these.. What on earth is it? And what are those switches?
    Well aside from Osborne.. Theres a plate on the back that says Aquarius Systems Inc. AKI-860, Made in Taiwan R.O.C.
    Have been searching but can't find anything about it on google. I'm a real beginner when it comes to old keyboards but really intrigued.

    Here are some photos. I apologize for quality.

    Front:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/taDvOLt.jpg)

    Switch:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kuxFxy0.jpg)


    Thanks!
    Looks like SKCM Blue Alps

    Now brace for PMs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 10 April 2016, 16:08:01
    Can someone with an MX slider modded HHKB/realforce take a picture of the stabilized keys(shift/enter) without keycaps on? I'm going to be doing it soon but am kinda confused on how the modifiers work.


    *edit: Another quick question, is there a frosty flake/pegasus hoof like replacement controller for the leopold fc750r?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 10 April 2016, 16:08:06
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 06 April 2016, 12:29:11
    How easy is it program the OTD boards, the 365c for example?  For comparison I think that programming duck boards is easy.  I'm only looking to do simple things like making caps lock as control, is that easy to do on the 365c for example?

    Kind of a headache. They're not programmable via software, so you need to flash the layout to the firmware with an ISP programmer. Documentation is pretty rough, I've been putting off doing my Mini for a long time.

    naasfu was looking around for the firmware source to compile a custom layout for a 360c, not sure if he ever found it. All I've been able to find for it is a compiled binary with standard ANSI.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 April 2016, 19:21:36


    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 10 April 2016, 16:08:01
    edit: Another quick question, is there a frosty flake/pegasus hoof like replacement controller for the leopold fc750r?

    I dunno about your first question.

    There's no drop in replacement daughter board like what you mention but you could use hasu's USB to USB converter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Mon, 11 April 2016, 04:22:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 April 2016, 19:21:36


    Quote from: Pemdas on Sun, 10 April 2016, 16:08:01
    edit: Another quick question, is there a frosty flake/pegasus hoof like replacement controller for the leopold fc750r?

    I dunno about your first question.

    There's no drop in replacement daughter board like what you mention but you could use hasu's USB to USB converter.

    Thanks, gonna message Hasu to purchase one thanks for the info!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 11 April 2016, 16:36:09
    Does anyone feel like Cooler Master could make some serious cash if they sold their MX compatible Topre sliders individually?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 11 April 2016, 17:21:22
    Quote from: klennkellon on Mon, 11 April 2016, 16:36:09
    Does anyone feel like Cooler Master could make some serious cash if they sold their MX compatible Topre sliders individually?

    I seem to recall seeing somewhere that they will be selling them individually, let me see if I can find a link.

    E: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80022.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wohmfg on Mon, 11 April 2016, 18:12:07
    Where's the best place in the UK to buy a TKL/60% keyboard with brown switches and backlit? It seems it might be cheaper to buy direct from Asia with dollars and pay the import tax/shipping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 12 April 2016, 06:10:47
    Quote from: Wohmfg on Mon, 11 April 2016, 18:12:07
    Where's the best place in the UK to buy a TKL/60% keyboard with brown switches and backlit? It seems it might be cheaper to buy direct from Asia with dollars and pay the import tax/shipping.

    Someone in the UK might have a couple of preferred vendors, but you could start with The Keyboard Company - haven't heard anything bad about them yet:

    http://www.keyboardco.com/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 April 2016, 09:50:39
    What is the color code of the base material of the double shot key caps manufactured by GMK for WAY TEC? L2 or L9? I am not referring to the special key caps, but to the base alphas, of course.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 April 2016, 18:38:09
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 12 April 2016, 09:50:39
    What is the color code of the base material of the double shot key caps manufactured by GMK for WAY TEC? L2 or L9? I am not referring to the special key caps, but to the base alphas, of course.

    Nobody?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 April 2016, 23:15:02
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 12 April 2016, 18:38:09
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 12 April 2016, 09:50:39
    What is the color code of the base material of the double shot key caps manufactured by GMK for WAY TEC? L2 or L9? I am not referring to the special key caps, but to the base alphas, of course.

    Nobody?
    Please dont bump your questions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 13 April 2016, 03:50:15
    I have heard that a 45g Realforce and a 45g HHKB feel different because the HHKB is case-mounted and the Realforce 87u is PCB mounted. Is the key feel really that different?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Wed, 13 April 2016, 04:24:13
    RF is plate-mounted, not PCB. and yes the difference is significant
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 13 April 2016, 14:34:59
    Quote from: Bucake on Wed, 13 April 2016, 04:24:13
    RF is plate-mounted, not PCB. and yes the difference is significant
    What is the difference in the feel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 13 April 2016, 22:07:06
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 12 April 2016, 09:50:39
    What is the color code of the base material of the double shot key caps manufactured by GMK for WAY TEC? L2 or L9? I am not referring to the special key caps, but to the base alphas, of course.

    I believe you mean WEY tec.
    I can't remember it is UN0001 or CP, but pretty sure it is not L9. L9 is the alpha base color for classic beige. the color on wey keyboard is much whiter than classic beige.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 13 April 2016, 22:15:12
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 13 April 2016, 23:35:26
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 13 April 2016, 22:15:12
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Wed, 13 April 2016, 22:07:06
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 12 April 2016, 09:50:39
    What is the color code of the base material of the double shot key caps manufactured by GMK for WAY TEC? L2 or L9? I am not referring to the special key caps, but to the base alphas, of course.

    I believe you mean WEY tec.
    I can't remember it is UN0001 or CP, but pretty sure it is not L9. L9 is the alpha base color for classic beige. the color on wey keyboard is much whiter than classic beige.

    confirmed not the same. I've had both side by side

    Yeah is WEY TEC, and it is clearer than base beige set for sure, but I do not know the code for the GMK chip that matches it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 15 April 2016, 02:58:02
    I really like the thocking sound of the HHKB but really don't like the placement of the ctrl key since I game more than I type, any solutions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Fri, 15 April 2016, 04:34:52
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 15 April 2016, 02:58:02
    I really like the thocking sound of the HHKB but really don't like the placement of the ctrl key since I game more than I type, any solutions?
    Use another keyboard for gaming not a HHKB. I think a TKL with MX linear switches are better suited for the task.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sat, 16 April 2016, 13:37:01
    Or use a remapped JIS HHKB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bradley727 on Sun, 17 April 2016, 05:56:23
    Hi guys I purchased a Realforce Variable weighted keyboard from a business in Australia. I had a look at the back of the keyboard and it is listed as a 'Realforce UW8755' and the model number is 'SE08T0'. The shop I purchased this from was a small business with limited stock. Did they just send me the uniform weighted 55g version? I'm not discerning enough to be able to tell if the keys are variably weighted.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Sun, 17 April 2016, 06:14:23
    Quote from: Bradley727 on Sun, 17 April 2016, 05:56:23
    Hi guys I purchased a Realforce Variable weighted keyboard from a business in Australia. I had a look at the back of the keyboard and it is listed as a 'Realforce UW8755' and the model number is 'SE08T0'. The shop I purchased this from was a small business with limited stock. Did they just send me the uniform weighted 55g version? I'm not discerning enough to be able to tell if the keys are variably weighted.
    Yes that seems to be a 55g version, if you like the feel keep it. Most seem to favor the RF 55g uniform myself included.
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bradley727 on Sun, 17 April 2016, 06:28:46
    Quote from: MJ45 on Sun, 17 April 2016, 06:14:23
    Yes that seems to be a 55g version, if you like the feel keep it. Most seem to favor the RF 55g uniform myself included.
    http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless

    Ahh okay that's good. To be honest I was feeling buyer's remorse over getting a variable weighted keyboard. I have another question, I wanted to purchase blank keycaps and I can't seem to find anything out there. Is there a source for blank white realforce 87U keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 17 April 2016, 11:28:43
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yjt33 on Tue, 19 April 2016, 19:34:31
    Can someone with poker 3 with LED check something for me.

    if the dip switch #3 is on (the one that makes Capslock into FN), will the capslock light be permanently on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nephiel on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:54:11
    Is the "charcoal" Gateron blank keyset from UKkeycaps (http://www.ukkeycaps.co.uk/product/gateron-thick-pbt-blank-keycaps-iso-ansi) the same color as the "dark" from Shadovved's blanks GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.0)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:55:45
     
    Quote from: nephiel on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:54:11
    Is the "charcoal" Gateron blank keyset from UKkeycaps (http://www.ukkeycaps.co.uk/product/gateron-thick-pbt-blank-keycaps-iso-ansi) the same color as the "dark" from Shadovved's blanks GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.0)?

    Wish there was a bigger picture but it looks like they're different.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 20 April 2016, 17:16:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:55:45
    Quote from: nephiel on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:54:11
    Is the "charcoal" Gateron blank keyset from UKkeycaps (http://www.ukkeycaps.co.uk/product/gateron-thick-pbt-blank-keycaps-iso-ansi) the same color as the "dark" from Shadovved's blanks GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.0)?

    Wish there was a bigger picture but it looks like they're different.

    My guess from those images is that the charcoal is closer in colour to the caps from this GB:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1755037#msg1755037
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nephiel on Thu, 21 April 2016, 16:35:02
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 20 April 2016, 17:16:27
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:55:45
    Quote from: nephiel on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:54:11
    Is the "charcoal" Gateron blank keyset from UKkeycaps (http://www.ukkeycaps.co.uk/product/gateron-thick-pbt-blank-keycaps-iso-ansi) the same color as the "dark" from Shadovved's blanks GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.0)?

    Wish there was a bigger picture but it looks like they're different.

    My guess from those images is that the charcoal is closer in colour to the caps from this GB:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1755037#msg1755037

    That's what I thought at first, but wasn't 100% sure.
    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Thu, 21 April 2016, 18:33:12
    Can someone just sanity check the 1800 layout here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2e885a5c0661e60169a637bd218ddd54 (not the legends, but physical key placement)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Thu, 21 April 2016, 19:09:20
    Quote from: joey on Thu, 21 April 2016, 18:33:12
    Can someone just sanity check the 1800 layout here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2e885a5c0661e60169a637bd218ddd54 (not the legends, but physical key placement)

    Probably intentional but you've got a 2u + key and your bottom row is not authentic 1800, it should be 1.5, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1.5 or 1, 1, 1, 6, 1, 1, 1, 1.

    Your layout will fit in a standard 1800 case and has better keycap options though, if that's what you were going for :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Fri, 22 April 2016, 01:59:47
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Thu, 21 April 2016, 19:09:20
    Quote from: joey on Thu, 21 April 2016, 18:33:12
    Can someone just sanity check the 1800 layout here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2e885a5c0661e60169a637bd218ddd54 (not the legends, but physical key placement)

    Probably intentional but you've got a 2u + key and your bottom row is not authentic 1800, it should be 1.5, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1.5 or 1, 1, 1, 6, 1, 1, 1, 1.

    Your layout will fit in a standard 1800 case and has better keycap options though, if that's what you were going for :thumb:
    I just meant the spacing of the arrow keys and function row etc! But thanks, I guess you answered yes to that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 23 April 2016, 11:18:48
    Can anyone who is familiar with the leeku 3000 pcb let me know if you have to cut out the piece(s) pictured below to fit into the g81-3000 case?? I'm fairly certain that is what is supposed to be done but I haven't found any information that says for certain.

    [attachimg=1]

    [attachimg=2]

    [attachimg=3]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 23 April 2016, 13:36:03
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 23 April 2016, 14:00:53
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 23 April 2016, 13:36:03
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 23 April 2016, 11:18:48
    Can anyone who is familiar with the leeku 3000 pcb let me know if you have to cut out the piece(s) pictured below to fit into the g81-3000 case?? I'm fairly certain that is what is supposed to be done but I haven't found any information that says for certain.

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    I'm not sure, but are you planning to replace that 1.5u control key on the right?  Are those gateron blacks?  Looks nice Spamray!  :cool: :cool:

    Yeah it was super late last night when I was putting the bottom row on haha. :facepalm:

    And it's a mix of gateron switches, I just wanted to get it built so I used what I had lying around.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fi0x on Sat, 23 April 2016, 14:14:32
    Are Cherry and Costar Stabilizers interchangeable? Or is it dependent on the PCB and plate? If so, how would I know?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 23 April 2016, 14:34:08
    Quote from: fi0x on Sat, 23 April 2016, 14:14:32
    Are Cherry and Costar Stabilizers interchangeable? Or is it dependent on the PCB and plate? If so, how would I know?

    No they are not interchangeable and costar are plate mount only. There have been a few aftermarket plates with cutouts that could use both but typically you only have the choice of one or the other.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photekq on Sat, 23 April 2016, 19:21:23
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 23 April 2016, 11:18:48
    Can anyone who is familiar with the leeku 3000 pcb let me know if you have to cut out the piece(s) pictured below to fit into the g81-3000 case?? I'm fairly certain that is what is supposed to be done but I haven't found any information that says for certain.

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)
    I definitely didn't need to, but that was for an older winkeyless case. I've never used a leeku with a newer one like yours. It looks like you will either need to mod the case or cut away those parts on the PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: leeku on Sat, 23 April 2016, 22:12:54
    ok this is a latest type of cherry case.
    ( ) shape is exactly for this.
    REMOVE THE PART OF ( ) TO FIT THIS KIND OF CASE
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 23 April 2016, 22:16:20
    Quote from: leeku on Sat, 23 April 2016, 22:12:54
    ok this is a latest type of cherry case.
    ( ) shape is exactly for this.
    REMOVE THE PART OF ( ) TO FIT THIS KIND OF CASE

    Awesome! Thank you so much leeku and thanks for the wonderful PCB's :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 24 April 2016, 23:07:40
    what is the weight of a tkl realforce?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:11:01
    Has anyone had any problems with the Lock LEDs (CapsLock/ScrollLock) not working on your just assembled KMAC2?

    I used new LEDs that I got from Sprits GB a while ago.  They are probably a little over a year old.

    I haven't tried to re-flash the firmware yet as I don't need to change the layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:21:26
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 24 April 2016, 23:07:40
    what is the weight of a tkl realforce?

    http://www.amazon.com/Realforce-87U-Tenkeyless-55g-Black/dp/B00MV84Y2Y

    Amazon suggests 2.6 pounds (with shipping weight 3.3 pounds).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:50:29
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:21:26
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 24 April 2016, 23:07:40
    what is the weight of a tkl realforce?

    http://www.amazon.com/Realforce-87U-Tenkeyless-55g-Black/dp/B00MV84Y2Y

    Amazon suggests 2.6 pounds (with shipping weight 3.3 pounds).

    Thanks!
    thinking about getting a realforce to carry around.. but it seems to heavy, i guess i will stick with my dell rubber dome than  :rolleyes:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:55:04
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:50:29
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:21:26
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 24 April 2016, 23:07:40
    what is the weight of a tkl realforce?

    http://www.amazon.com/Realforce-87U-Tenkeyless-55g-Black/dp/B00MV84Y2Y

    Amazon suggests 2.6 pounds (with shipping weight 3.3 pounds).

    Thanks!
    thinking about getting a realforce to carry around.. but it seems to heavy, i guess i will stick with my dell rubber dome than  :rolleyes:

    HHKB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 25 April 2016, 14:18:41
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:55:04
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:50:29
    Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 25 April 2016, 00:21:26
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 24 April 2016, 23:07:40
    what is the weight of a tkl realforce?

    http://www.amazon.com/Realforce-87U-Tenkeyless-55g-Black/dp/B00MV84Y2Y

    Amazon suggests 2.6 pounds (with shipping weight 3.3 pounds).

    Thanks!
    thinking about getting a realforce to carry around.. but it seems to heavy, i guess i will stick with my dell rubber dome than  :rolleyes:

    HHKB?

    nah, I can't use 60% at all
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tintoret on Thu, 28 April 2016, 07:55:50
    Are the stock keycap profiles the same on the Apple Standard Keyboard and Apple Extended Keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 April 2016, 08:57:20
    Quote from: tintoret on Thu, 28 April 2016, 07:55:50
    Are the stock keycap profiles the same on the Apple Standard Keyboard and Apple Extended Keyboards?

    I believe they are.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Fri, 29 April 2016, 10:47:36
    My spacebar stabilizer wire popped out under the plate. Is desoldering the switches the only option to fix it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 10:54:17
    Quote from: mason on Fri, 29 April 2016, 10:47:36
    My spacebar stabilizer wire popped out under the plate. Is desoldering the switches the only option to fix it?

    I've been able to fix my Cherry stabilizer wire without desoldering in the past. It's a lot of fishing and messing with it but I didn't have to desolder anything. It would certainly make things easier though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:00:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 10:54:17
    Quote from: mason on Fri, 29 April 2016, 10:47:36
    My spacebar stabilizer wire popped out under the plate. Is desoldering the switches the only option to fix it?

    I've been able to fix my Cherry stabilizer wire without desoldering in the past. It's a lot of fishing and messing with it but I didn't have to desolder anything. It would certainly make things easier though.

    Thanks, I guess I'll keep trying
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:02:08
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:17:52
    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:02:08
    Quote from: mason on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:00:29
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 10:54:17
    Quote from: mason on Fri, 29 April 2016, 10:47:36
    My spacebar stabilizer wire popped out under the plate. Is desoldering the switches the only option to fix it?

    I've been able to fix my Cherry stabilizer wire without desoldering in the past. It's a lot of fishing and messing with it but I didn't have to desolder anything. It would certainly make things easier though.

    Thanks, I guess I'll keep trying

    hopefully the zeal stab project is completed soon. Screw in stabs never catch on the spacebar like what probably happened to you.  I hate it when that happens.  Ideally, I'd have a cap set for every board, but I only have 2 OG dye sub sets, so I can't do that T_T

    I guess I'm gonna order a soldering iron. This is gonna be my first time desoldering, should I get the YiHUA-936B?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:29:40
    Quote from: mason on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:17:52
    I guess I'm gonna order a soldering iron. This is gonna be my first time desoldering, should I get the YiHUA-936B?

    Sure. It should be all right if you don't plan on doing much soldering. And remember a solder sucker or solder braid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:33:49
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Crossfire on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:57:07
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sun, 24 April 2016, 23:07:40
    what is the weight of a tkl realforce?
    The board itself is 2.4lbs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mason on Fri, 29 April 2016, 12:31:01
    Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:33:49
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:29:40
    Sure. It should be all right if you don't plan on doing much soldering. And remember a solder sucker or solder braid.
    chip quik is amazing stuff too for really stubborn joints :thumb:

    Thanks guys  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 15:48:06
    What's the best place to order sip sockets from in the US?

    Does someone have a link?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 April 2016, 16:44:12
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 15:48:06
    What's the best place to order sip sockets from in the US?

    Does someone have a link?
    Do you just need regular ones? They are dirt cheap on eBay.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:19:45
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 April 2016, 16:44:12
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 15:48:06
    What's the best place to order sip sockets from in the US?

    Does someone have a link?
    Do you just need regular ones? They are dirt cheap on eBay.
    I need some for switch LEDS. 
    I'm not familiar with the different kinds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:30:50
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:19:45
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 April 2016, 16:44:12
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 15:48:06
    What's the best place to order sip sockets from in the US?

    Does someone have a link?
    Do you just need regular ones? They are dirt cheap on eBay.
    I need some for switch LEDS. 
    I'm not familiar with the different kinds.

    There are short and long ones in relation to how far do they protrude out the bottom of the PCB.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:34:55
    Ah,  then I guess the longer ones would be best.  Sounds like they are easier to work with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:35:06
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:19:45
    I need some for switch LEDS. 
    I'm not familiar with the different kinds.

    From the SIP socket thread: (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0)

    eBay SIP Sockets (http://www.ebay.com/itm/3PCS-Strip-Tin-PCB-Female-IC-Breakable-40pin-Single-Row-Round-Header-Socket/200924888625?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18775%26meid%3D3130015099116947005%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D8532%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D140910386490%26&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)

    These might work for you but you can check that thread for the other options
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 18:37:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:35:06
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:19:45
    I need some for switch LEDS. 
    I'm not familiar with the different kinds.

    From the SIP socket thread: (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0)

    eBay SIP Sockets (http://www.ebay.com/itm/3PCS-Strip-Tin-PCB-Female-IC-Breakable-40pin-Single-Row-Round-Header-Socket/200924888625?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18775%26meid%3D3130015099116947005%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D8532%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D140910386490%26&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)

    These might work for you but you can check that thread for the other options
    Thanks. Do you know if these are the longer stemmed ones they talk about in that thread?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 April 2016, 19:05:04
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 18:37:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:35:06
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:19:45
    I need some for switch LEDS. 
    I'm not familiar with the different kinds.

    From the SIP socket thread: (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0)

    eBay SIP Sockets (http://www.ebay.com/itm/3PCS-Strip-Tin-PCB-Female-IC-Breakable-40pin-Single-Row-Round-Header-Socket/200924888625?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18775%26meid%3D3130015099116947005%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D8532%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D140910386490%26&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)

    These might work for you but you can check that thread for the other options
    Thanks. Do you know if these are the longer stemmed ones they talk about in that thread?

    The ones on ebay are short.

    Zeal sells some long tail ones on his website https://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/sipsockets (https://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/sipsockets)

    Just make sure you calculate the amount correctly as you'll need 2 per switch. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 21:42:00
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 April 2016, 19:05:04
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 18:37:07
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:35:06
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 April 2016, 17:19:45
    I need some for switch LEDS. 
    I'm not familiar with the different kinds.

    From the SIP socket thread: (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51792.0)

    eBay SIP Sockets (http://www.ebay.com/itm/3PCS-Strip-Tin-PCB-Female-IC-Breakable-40pin-Single-Row-Round-Header-Socket/200924888625?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18775%26meid%3D3130015099116947005%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D8532%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D140910386490%26&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true)

    These might work for you but you can check that thread for the other options
    Thanks. Do you know if these are the longer stemmed ones they talk about in that thread?

    The ones on ebay are short.

    Zeal sells some long tail ones on his website https://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/sipsockets (https://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/sipsockets)

    Just make sure you calculate the amount correctly as you'll need 2 per switch. :D
    Okay, cool.   Thanks Ray
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 01 May 2016, 16:58:30
    Hi! I have a stupid question:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 May 2016, 17:02:47
    Quote from: Eszett on Sun, 01 May 2016, 16:58:30
    Hi! I have a stupid question:

    6U Spacebars (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions#6_units_.28114mm_wide.2C_3_keymounts.2C_57mm_and_38mm_apart.29)

    7U Spacebars (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions#7_units_.28133mm_wide.2C_3_mounts.2C_57mm_apart.29)

    I think that's just what Cherry did. So wherever you got that screenshot from has the same setup.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 01 May 2016, 17:06:42
    Thanks Captain. Its from swill's plate builder. The off-position of the 6u stem just doesn't make any sense for me? Especially as i design a plate with compatibility for both 6u and 7u spacebars. I have to change my PCB design as well for it, just for the idiocy of the off-center stem!?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sun, 01 May 2016, 19:49:52
    Quote from: Eszett on Sun, 01 May 2016, 17:06:42
    Thanks Captain. Its from swill's plate builder. The off-position of the 6u stem just doesn't make any sense for me? Especially as i design a plate with compatibility for both 6u and 7u spacebars. I have to change my PCB design as well for it, just for the idiocy of the off-center stem!?

    Yes, you will need a footprint for each separate spacebar. The good news is that you'll only need one diode, as only one of the two positions will be used at a time (unless you're playing with many bottom row layouts, in which case it may not work out quite as nicely.

    E: Actually, here's something you may want to check. If you place the switch for the 6u and 7u spacebar in the same place, does it align the left edge of each spacebar? It looks to me like it might.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sun, 01 May 2016, 20:03:58
    Hi user18. Thanks for info. I changed my plans and decided to design now for 7u + 6.25u instead of 7u + 6u, since most/usual 6.25u spacebars have the centered mount stem, so that it's possible to have the switch in the same place!  :thumb:

    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 01 May 2016, 19:49:52
    If you place the switch for the 6u and 7u spacebar in the same place, does it align the left edge of each spacebar? It looks to me like it might.
    May be... its just that I'm designing for a symmetrical bottom row layout, so I really need it to be symmetrical ...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 02 May 2016, 10:25:55
    I have another question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 02 May 2016, 11:38:13
    I know that the type you need depends on the LEDs you are using, but can someone give a link to some through hole resistors I can order from here in the US.
    Never bought any before, and not really sure what to get.

    I'll probably be using either these

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838)

    or these LEDs

    http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 May 2016, 11:49:08
    Quote from: Eszett on Mon, 02 May 2016, 10:25:55
    I have another question.

    That's to get the wire for a cherry spacebar stabilizer underneath the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 02 May 2016, 14:13:04
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 May 2016, 11:49:08
    That's to get the wire for a cherry spacebar stabilizer underneath the plate.
    Ah, so with Cherry stabs the wire its below the plate, and with Costar its above the plate? Didn't know that, Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:24:54
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 02 May 2016, 11:38:13
    I know that the type you need depends on the LEDs you are using, but can someone give a link to some through hole resistors I can order from here in the US.
    Never bought any before, and not really sure what to get.

    I'll probably be using either these

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838)

    or these LEDs

    http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1765511#msg1765511
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:33:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:24:54
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 02 May 2016, 11:38:13
    I know that the type you need depends on the LEDs you are using, but can someone give a link to some through hole resistors I can order from here in the US.
    Never bought any before, and not really sure what to get.

    I'll probably be using either these

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838)

    or these LEDs

    http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1765511#msg1765511
    Thanks, but that link is for smd resistors.
    I'm about to put together a GH rev. C and I need some through hole resistors for the CapsLock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:38:21
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:33:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:24:54
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 02 May 2016, 11:38:13
    I know that the type you need depends on the LEDs you are using, but can someone give a link to some through hole resistors I can order from here in the US.
    Never bought any before, and not really sure what to get.

    I'll probably be using either these

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838)

    or these LEDs

    http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1765511#msg1765511
    Thanks, but that link is for smd resistors.
    I'm about to put together a GH rev. C and I need some through hole resistors for the CapsLock.

    If you dig around in that link, you'll find this post from photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.msg1176133#msg1176133) with resistor values. Use those to hunt down some through hole resistors on Mouser or your preferred retailer. I've never bought any myself so I don't have any first hand experience and links to give you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:44:37
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:38:21
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:33:28
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 May 2016, 15:24:54
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Mon, 02 May 2016, 11:38:13
    I know that the type you need depends on the LEDs you are using, but can someone give a link to some through hole resistors I can order from here in the US.
    Never bought any before, and not really sure what to get.

    I'll probably be using either these

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121730673838)

    or these LEDs

    http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=WP710A10LZGCKvirtualkey60400000virtualkey604-WP710A10LZGCK)

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1765511#msg1765511
    Thanks, but that link is for smd resistors.
    I'm about to put together a GH rev. C and I need some through hole resistors for the CapsLock.

    If you dig around in that link, you'll find this post from photoelectric (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52831.msg1176133#msg1176133) with resistor values. Use those to hunt down some through hole resistors on Mouser or your preferred retailer. I've never bought any myself so I don't have any first hand experience and links to give you.
    OK. Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: What on Tue, 03 May 2016, 14:23:41
    1. Is there a reason why none of membrane keyboards are re-programmable? It there some hardware limitations?
    2. Is it possible to build membrane keyboard with some micro controller and use tmk firmware for example and have all benefits of this firmware ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 May 2016, 14:26:06
    Quote from: What on Tue, 03 May 2016, 14:23:41
    1. Is there a reason why none of membrane keyboards are re-programmable? It there some hardware limitations?
    2. Is it possible to build membrane keyboard with some micro controller and use tmk firmware for example and have all benefits of this firmware ?

    1) Price I'm sure. And it's not a feature most people care about.
    2) I'm pretty sure that Sifo said he converted his membrane DT-35 with Hasu's USB to USB converter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 04 May 2016, 17:09:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 May 2016, 14:26:06
    Quote from: What on Tue, 03 May 2016, 14:23:41
    1. Is there a reason why none of membrane keyboards are re-programmable? It there some hardware limitations?
    2. Is it possible to build membrane keyboard with some micro controller and use tmk firmware for example and have all benefits of this firmware ?

    1) Price I'm sure. And it's not a feature most people care about.
    2) I'm pretty sure that Sifo said he converted his membrane DT-35 with Hasu's USB to USB converter.

    ya but it's an external dongle kinda thing, maybe you could shorten the USB or hack it together and solder it directly to the PCB. amazing device from hasu
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 05 May 2016, 13:27:26
    What's the cheapest/easiest way to get some normal Cherry stabs (60% kits) in Northern europe? And not 7bit, his ordering system is horrible and his shipping times are out of this world.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tintoret on Fri, 06 May 2016, 11:45:09
    Anyone have any familiarity with these taobao cases that could give me the lowdown? Haven't seen them around.

    https://world.taobao.com/item/37128843006.htm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 06 May 2016, 13:35:34
    Weird design. Looks like a really thin case with a huge weight on it...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rondg on Sun, 08 May 2016, 07:35:36
    Are there TKL PCBs that have in-switch leds besides GON's and winkeyless? I am planning to build a keyboard using the TEX TKL cases...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 May 2016, 15:21:10
    Quote from: rondg on Sun, 08 May 2016, 07:35:36
    Are there TKL PCBs that have in-switch leds besides GON's and winkeyless? I am planning to build a keyboard using the TEX TKL cases...

    I haven't really kept up but the Phantom PCBs from MK might have them. Worth a look at the very least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Imomo on Sun, 08 May 2016, 19:42:57
    god I'm embarrassed.

    I'm cleaning up an old NEC APC-H25 and I threw all the keys in a warm soapy bath, they were really gunky, I threw in some goo gone. Except it wasn't goo gone, it was Goof Off, I grabbed the wrong bottle and even though there wasn't a ton (thank god) it still did its damage.

    I was able to unstick the melting keys before they adhered to each other but the finish has been completely stripped from these vintage keys and not only that, the black and grey keys have been discolored. After they dried they've turned a faded grey.

    I think they can be restored but what should I use to get that black luster back to the dark keys? And what should I finish them with?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 08 May 2016, 19:49:52
    Quote from: Imomo on Sun, 08 May 2016, 19:42:57

    but the finish has been completely stripped from these vintage keys and not only that, the black and grey keys have been discolored. After they dried they've turned a faded grey.

    I think they can be restored but what should I use to get that black luster back to the dark keys? And what should I finish them with?


    If you can figure out how to restore them you should post it. I think that someone on DT attempted sand blasting to restore texture, but I don't recall whether it worked.

    Personally, I never use anything but powdered laundry detergent and perhaps a little Oxi-clean in a hot water soak for a few minutes, and then rinse thoroughly several times using a kitchen colander. With literally thousands of keys I can count on my fingers the ones that did not come out squeaky clean after a very few minutes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Imomo on Sun, 08 May 2016, 20:10:57
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 08 May 2016, 19:49:52
    Quote from: Imomo on Sun, 08 May 2016, 19:42:57

    but the finish has been completely stripped from these vintage keys and not only that, the black and grey keys have been discolored. After they dried they've turned a faded grey.

    I think they can be restored but what should I use to get that black luster back to the dark keys? And what should I finish them with?


    If you can figure out how to restore them you should post it. I think that someone on DT attempted sand blasting to restore texture, but I don't recall whether it worked.

    I'm reading through some car forums that suggest steel wool and a heat gun. I scraped a little off the side of one of the keys and sure enough it looks like that could definitely do the trick... not so sure about the heat gun, I'd be happy enough to get it back to black and then finish it with some polymer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rondg on Sun, 08 May 2016, 20:22:16
    I think Phantom PCBs does not have in-switch leds? Is there a new version?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 May 2016, 15:21:10
    Quote from: rondg on Sun, 08 May 2016, 07:35:36
    Are there TKL PCBs that have in-switch leds besides GON's and winkeyless? I am planning to build a keyboard using the TEX TKL cases...

    I haven't really kept up but the Phantom PCBs from MK might have them. Worth a look at the very least.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 May 2016, 21:02:21
    Quote from: rondg on Sun, 08 May 2016, 20:22:16
    I think Phantom PCBs does not have in-switch leds? Is there a new version?

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 08 May 2016, 15:21:10
    Quote from: rondg on Sun, 08 May 2016, 07:35:36
    Are there TKL PCBs that have in-switch leds besides GON's and winkeyless? I am planning to build a keyboard using the TEX TKL cases...

    I haven't really kept up but the Phantom PCBs from MK might have them. Worth a look at the very least.

    I thought maybe MK added the LEDs but I guess not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:18:49
    I had a client come in during tax season and he remarked that he really liked my keyboard at work, a V2 with greens.  He contacted me a week or so ago and asked for some more information, so I sent him a few websites like EK.com, WASD.com, and MK.com to browse but I think it might have been too much information, because he sent me this back in an email:

    "I have viewed a ton of gaming keyboards, but what I am really looking for is comfort, data entry, and quicker navigation through Excel."

    Anyone know of any keyboards that fit the above criteria, while not being too expensive (under $150 preferred but definitely under $200) and that would be mech-noob friendly?  I did mention things like TKL and 60% but I didn't get a good or bad response from him in that regard.

    Thanks for any help :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:23:49
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:18:49
    I had a client come in during tax season and he remarked that he really liked my keyboard at work, a V2 with greens.  He contacted me a week or so ago and asked for some more information, so I sent him a few websites like EK.com, WASD.com, and MK.com to browse but I think it might have been too much information, because he sent me this back in an email:

    "I have viewed a ton of gaming keyboards, but what I am really looking for is comfort, data entry, and quicker navigation through Excel."

    Anyone know of any keyboards that fit the above criteria, while not being too expensive (under $150 preferred but definitely under $200) and that would be mech-noob friendly?  I did mention things like TKL and 60% but I didn't get a good or bad response from him in that regard.

    Thanks for any help :)

    Filco, Ducky, Leopold, the WASD V2 should all fit the bill. I'd suggest a simpler Ducky. I don't think there's a special keyboard that will make your Excel work easier just like I don't think there's a keyboard that makes you shoot better in CounterStrike.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:39:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:23:49
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:18:49
    I had a client come in during tax season and he remarked that he really liked my keyboard at work, a V2 with greens.  He contacted me a week or so ago and asked for some more information, so I sent him a few websites like EK.com, WASD.com, and MK.com to browse but I think it might have been too much information, because he sent me this back in an email:

    "I have viewed a ton of gaming keyboards, but what I am really looking for is comfort, data entry, and quicker navigation through Excel."

    Anyone know of any keyboards that fit the above criteria, while not being too expensive (under $150 preferred but definitely under $200) and that would be mech-noob friendly?  I did mention things like TKL and 60% but I didn't get a good or bad response from him in that regard.

    Thanks for any help :)

    Filco, Ducky, Leopold, the WASD V2 should all fit the bill. I'd suggest a simpler Ducky. I don't think there's a special keyboard that will make your Excel work easier just like I don't think there's a keyboard that makes you shoot better in CounterStrike.

    Thanks for the response CPT, I found a couple Duckys that he will probably like so I'll shoot those over to him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tintoret on Mon, 09 May 2016, 10:15:34
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:18:49
    I had a client come in during tax season and he remarked that he really liked my keyboard at work, a V2 with greens.  He contacted me a week or so ago and asked for some more information, so I sent him a few websites like EK.com, WASD.com, and MK.com to browse but I think it might have been too much information, because he sent me this back in an email:

    "I have viewed a ton of gaming keyboards, but what I am really looking for is comfort, data entry, and quicker navigation through Excel."

    Anyone know of any keyboards that fit the above criteria, while not being too expensive (under $150 preferred but definitely under $200) and that would be mech-noob friendly?  I did mention things like TKL and 60% but I didn't get a good or bad response from him in that regard.

    Thanks for any help :)

    Beyond what has already been mentioned: for data entry or excel, I'd imagine a tenkey would be a must.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fublamchu on Tue, 10 May 2016, 12:42:05
    Are there any aluminum cases compatible with the Leopold 750r?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 10 May 2016, 17:46:09
    Quote from: tintoret on Mon, 09 May 2016, 10:15:34
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:18:49
    I had a client come in during tax season and he remarked that he really liked my keyboard at work, a V2 with greens.  He contacted me a week or so ago and asked for some more information, so I sent him a few websites like EK.com, WASD.com, and MK.com to browse but I think it might have been too much information, because he sent me this back in an email:

    "I have viewed a ton of gaming keyboards, but what I am really looking for is comfort, data entry, and quicker navigation through Excel."

    Anyone know of any keyboards that fit the above criteria, while not being too expensive (under $150 preferred but definitely under $200) and that would be mech-noob friendly?  I did mention things like TKL and 60% but I didn't get a good or bad response from him in that regard.

    Thanks for any help :)

    Beyond what has already been mentioned: for data entry or excel, I'd imagine a tenkey would be a must.

    +1  I always pull out a board with tenkey when I use Excel at home.  My go-to is anything 1800 layout, since it's still relatively compact but fully featured.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 May 2016, 18:20:02
    what is the name and the maker of the cat paw keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 May 2016, 20:14:20
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 May 2016, 18:20:02
    what is the name and the maker of the cat paw keycaps?
    Keykollectiv?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 10 May 2016, 20:52:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 May 2016, 20:14:20
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 May 2016, 18:20:02
    what is the name and the maker of the cat paw keycaps?
    Keykollectiv?

    Yep. Meowcaps, if I'm not mistaken. Ask ccarlitos, resident "cat paw" hoarder.  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 May 2016, 21:30:36
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 10 May 2016, 20:52:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 May 2016, 20:14:20
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Tue, 10 May 2016, 18:20:02
    what is the name and the maker of the cat paw keycaps?
    Keykollectiv?

    Yep. Meowcaps, if I'm not mistaken. Ask ccarlitos, resident "cat paw" hoarder.  :))

    thanks! thats the one I am looking for  ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:47:17
    Is there a PCB around for a layout like this?
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f2e7835a5309d34586bc085c4e3fb72b
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:53:11
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:47:17
    Is there a PCB around for a layout like this?
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f2e7835a5309d34586bc085c4e3fb72b

    There was a GB for that layout recently but I can't remember the name....Ugh.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:56:45
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:57:42
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:56:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:53:11
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:47:17
    Is there a PCB around for a layout like this?
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f2e7835a5309d34586bc085c4e3fb72b

    There was a GB for that layout recently but I can't remember the name....Ugh.

    it was the alps monarch where the numpad was on the left.

    Nah...could've sworn I saw one in MX in this exact layout.

    Edit: Found it. Sentraq 78: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81693.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Wed, 11 May 2016, 11:02:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:57:42
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:56:45
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:53:11
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:47:17
    Is there a PCB around for a layout like this?
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f2e7835a5309d34586bc085c4e3fb72b

    There was a GB for that layout recently but I can't remember the name....Ugh.

    it was the alps monarch where the numpad was on the left.

    Nah...could've sworn I saw one in MX in this exact layout.

    Edit: Found it. Sentraq 78: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81693.0

    Yep, and it's still open too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brammm87 on Thu, 12 May 2016, 00:45:37
    Holy ****, that's cool. Thanks guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Stabilized on Thu, 12 May 2016, 07:38:16
    Does anyone know what on-board SMD LEDs I should use for a Gon NerD PCB? I am talking specifically about the ones that go on the top, not the side LEDs for the bottom.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 12 May 2016, 10:02:44
    Which 75% should I go for?
    Things I care about: 67g Zealios, standardish layout for caps, feels, price
    Things I don't care about: looks (ok maybe a little), backlighting
    Things I don't know enough about: how case/plate materials affect dem feels.

    so like is a octagon, or b.mini, or that xondat skeleton thing really any better than a keycool?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 May 2016, 11:30:09


    Quote from: zombimuncha on Thu, 12 May 2016, 10:02:44
    Which 75% should I go for?
    Things I care about: 67g Zealios, standardish layout for caps, feels, price
    Things I don't care about: looks (ok maybe a little), backlighting
    Things I don't know enough about: how case/plate materials affect dem feels.

    so like is a octagon, or b.mini, or that xondat skeleton thing really any better than a keycool?

    Personal preference? I really like the 75% metalliqaz made which is what I think xondat was inspired by. I also really liked the octagon but I didn't really like the angle.

    If you're worried about price and want zealios, I'd probably just get a keycool.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombimuncha on Thu, 12 May 2016, 13:06:23
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 May 2016, 11:30:09


    Quote from: zombimuncha on Thu, 12 May 2016, 10:02:44
    Which 75% should I go for?
    Things I care about: 67g Zealios, standardish layout for caps, feels, price
    Things I don't care about: looks (ok maybe a little), backlighting
    Things I don't know enough about: how case/plate materials affect dem feels.

    so like is a octagon, or b.mini, or that xondat skeleton thing really any better than a keycool?

    Personal preference? I really like the 75% metalliqaz made which is what I think xondat was inspired by. I also really liked the octagon but I didn't really like the angle.

    If you're worried about price and want zealios, I'd probably just get a keycool.

    Oh, cool. I had never really paid too much attention to the Zeta (a little too shiny and look-at-me-y), so hadn't even noticed it was a 75.

    What I really want is something more like a cross between a FC660 and a 75% I'd probably have to do that in acrylic and hand-wire it, right?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Saiph on Thu, 12 May 2016, 13:25:42
    Is there anything I should be aware of when ordering through a taobao agent?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Sun, 15 May 2016, 04:37:53
    Anyone got a link to the exact female connector used by the Filco boards?

    aka the female connector here http://i.imgur.com/XnGfd74.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 15 May 2016, 04:59:40
    Quote from: joey on Sun, 15 May 2016, 04:37:53
    Anyone got a link to the exact female connector used by the Filco boards?

    aka the female connector here http://i.imgur.com/XnGfd74.jpg

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45169.msg942535#msg942535
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Sun, 15 May 2016, 05:07:30
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 15 May 2016, 04:59:40
    Quote from: joey on Sun, 15 May 2016, 04:37:53
    Anyone got a link to the exact female connector used by the Filco boards?

    aka the female connector here http://i.imgur.com/XnGfd74.jpg

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45169.msg942535#msg942535
    Thanks, exactly what I needed!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: vegs on Mon, 16 May 2016, 06:04:22
    What IBM board is this? (http://i.imgur.com/j610eMG.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 May 2016, 07:49:39
    Quote from: Veggis on Mon, 16 May 2016, 06:04:22
    What IBM board is this? (http://i.imgur.com/j610eMG.jpg)

    Looks like a Nordic or Scandinavian layout Model M
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Saiph on Mon, 16 May 2016, 12:06:47
    I just finished swapping my keyboard back to gateron yellows from zealios through switch top removal. For some reason my keys seem to catch onto something if I hit them from the bottom of the keycap. This happens at the beginning of pressing down. Anyone know what might cause this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 May 2016, 12:14:24
    Quote from: Saiph on Mon, 16 May 2016, 12:06:47
    I just finished swapping my keyboard back to gateron yellows from zealios through switch top removal. For some reason my keys seem to catch onto something if I hit them from the bottom of the keycap. This happens at the beginning of pressing down. Anyone know what might cause this?

    Did you switch caps? That might have something to do with it.

    The stems are different I believe as well which could be an issue as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Saiph on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:15:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 May 2016, 12:14:24

    Did you switch caps? That might have something to do with it.

    The stems are different I believe as well which could be an issue as well.
    I haven't switched keycaps this time around, though I did use different keycaps when I had this keyboard originally(when it was gateron yellows). The caps are GMK Sky Dolch.

    It does seem like I can't get the switch to catch when I press it without the keycaps. I guess it could be the stem of the cap catching?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:22:30
    Quote from: Saiph on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:15:40
    I haven't switched keycaps this time around, though I did use different keycaps when I had this keyboard originally(when it was gateron yellows). The caps are GMK Sky Dolch.

    It does seem like I can't get the switch to catch when I press it without the keycaps. I guess it could be the stem of the cap catching?

    There's been some issues reported with GMK caps and some MX stems. I think people have shaved down the caps to fix it if I recall correctly.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Saiph on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:29:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:22:30

    There's been some issues reported with GMK caps and some MX stems. I think people have shaved down the caps to fix it if I recall correctly.
    Ah yeah, I just found that thread. I guess its a tedious step that I have to go through haha. Do you think sandpaper would work well for that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:31:06
     
    Quote from: Saiph on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:29:42
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:22:30

    There's been some issues reported with GMK caps and some MX stems. I think people have shaved down the caps to fix it if I recall correctly.
    Ah yeah, I just found that thread. I guess its a tedious step that I have to go through haha. Do you think sandpaper would work well for that?

    I guess so? I've never done it. I have both files and sandpaper in my tool box at home. I'd try the sandpaper first and if I'm not getting good results, switch to the files. Both can be had for very cheap.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Saiph on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:38:44
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 May 2016, 13:31:06

    I guess so? I've never done it. I have both files and sandpaper in my tool box at home. I'd try the sandpaper first and if I'm not getting good results, switch to the files. Both can be had for very cheap.
    Yeah, sounds like a plan. Thanks for the help. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 17 May 2016, 05:38:17
    My Gateron caps from one of Ivan's buys do the same on my Gateron Blacks. I haven't been able to fix it because I can't figure out a good way of telling where the cap is rubbing on the housing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Tue, 17 May 2016, 06:02:36
    Back when gateron switches first came from hwood, there were a lot of people talking about the switch stems catching at odd angles. The GMK set may be perpetuating this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 20 May 2016, 07:39:40
    Sorry I misspoke, my Gateron keycaps were catching on vintage MX Blacks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 20 May 2016, 14:51:48
    Why does the Model M's case never yellow despite being made of ABS?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 20 May 2016, 14:57:38
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 20 May 2016, 14:51:48
    Why does the Model M's case never yellow despite being made of ABS?

    I thought that Model M used PVC.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 20 May 2016, 15:28:49
    Are Majestouch 1 keycaps PBT?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 20 May 2016, 16:41:07
    Quote from: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 20 May 2016, 15:28:49
    Are Majestouch 1 keycaps PBT?

    nope ABS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 May 2016, 18:31:38
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 20 May 2016, 14:51:48
    Why does the Model M's case never yellow despite being made of ABS?

    It's not the material itself that yellows, I believe it's fire retardant chemicals that get added that causes yellowing. Apparently whatever material the Model M is made from, it doesn't have those chemicals to become yellow.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kohi on Sat, 21 May 2016, 18:14:30
    do gateron clear switch covers fit well on cherry switches housings? or does it somehow change the feel of the switch
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 May 2016, 08:45:13
    Quote from: hojunski on Sat, 21 May 2016, 18:14:30
    do gateron clear switch covers fit well on cherry switches housings? or does it somehow change the feel of the switch

    They fit and I think it changes the feeling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 23 May 2016, 01:38:10
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 20 May 2016, 14:57:38
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 20 May 2016, 14:51:48
    Why does the Model M's case never yellow despite being made of ABS?

    I thought that Model M used PVC.

    To my knowledge PVC was used in the outer insulation of the cable.  During long term storage the cable can react with the case and essentially melt the case at the point of contact.  This is why some people recommend stuffing the cable into something like a toilet paper tube to minimize the contact.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 May 2016, 18:31:38
    Quote from: klennkellon on Fri, 20 May 2016, 14:51:48
    Why does the Model M's case never yellow despite being made of ABS?

    It's not the material itself that yellows, I believe it's fire retardant chemicals that get added that causes yellowing. Apparently whatever material the Model M is made from, it doesn't have those chemicals to become yellow.

    From what I have read, bromine is the flame retardant that is suspected to cause the yellowing when exposed to long term UV light. 

    Couple questions of my own regarding my newest keyboard acquisition.

    [attach=1]

    1. What is the correct location for those clips.  When I received this keyboard those along with some other parts were in a plastic bag.

    2.  Is that plug physically compatible with a VGA socket?

    3.  Are the plastic tabs from a PC-AT compatible with the slots on this keyboard?  My keyboard didn't arrive with any and would like to use the plastic ones from my AT as I use insert stabilized keys and have already knocked out the plastic clips.  Would just be a matter of gluing them back in with a bit of epoxy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:20:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 23 May 2016, 01:38:10
    1. What is the correct location for those clips.  When I received this keyboard those along with some other parts were in a plastic bag.

    2.  Is that plug physically compatible with a VGA socket?

    3.  Are the plastic tabs from a PC-AT compatible with the slots on this keyboard?  My keyboard didn't arrive with any and would like to use the plastic ones from my AT as I use insert stabilized keys and have already knocked out the plastic clips.  Would just be a matter of gluing them back in with a bit of epoxy.

    1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50475.msg1131368#msg1131368

    2) Don't know

    3) Not sure what plastic tabs you're referring to. Or what their purpose is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:36:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:20:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 23 May 2016, 01:38:10
    1. What is the correct location for those clips.  When I received this keyboard those along with some other parts were in a plastic bag.

    2.  Is that plug physically compatible with a VGA socket?

    3.  Are the plastic tabs from a PC-AT compatible with the slots on this keyboard?  My keyboard didn't arrive with any and would like to use the plastic ones from my AT as I use insert stabilized keys and have already knocked out the plastic clips.  Would just be a matter of gluing them back in with a bit of epoxy.

    1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50475.msg1131368#msg1131368

    2) Don't know

    3) Not sure what plastic tabs you're referring to. Or what their purpose is.

    The tabs for the wire stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:54:03
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:36:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:20:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 23 May 2016, 01:38:10
    1. What is the correct location for those clips.  When I received this keyboard those along with some other parts were in a plastic bag.

    2.  Is that plug physically compatible with a VGA socket?

    3.  Are the plastic tabs from a PC-AT compatible with the slots on this keyboard?  My keyboard didn't arrive with any and would like to use the plastic ones from my AT as I use insert stabilized keys and have already knocked out the plastic clips.  Would just be a matter of gluing them back in with a bit of epoxy.

    1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50475.msg1131368#msg1131368

    2) Don't know

    3) Not sure what plastic tabs you're referring to. Or what their purpose is.

    The tabs for the wire stabilizers.

    I believe they're the same yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:55:42
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:36:56
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:20:12
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 23 May 2016, 01:38:10
    1. What is the correct location for those clips.  When I received this keyboard those along with some other parts were in a plastic bag.

    2.  Is that plug physically compatible with a VGA socket?

    3.  Are the plastic tabs from a PC-AT compatible with the slots on this keyboard?  My keyboard didn't arrive with any and would like to use the plastic ones from my AT as I use insert stabilized keys and have already knocked out the plastic clips.  Would just be a matter of gluing them back in with a bit of epoxy.

    1) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50475.msg1131368#msg1131368

    2) Don't know

    3) Not sure what plastic tabs you're referring to. Or what their purpose is.

    The tabs for the wire stabilizers.
    Thanks CBA, looking forward to typing in this soon. I would assume the card in the top left of the linked post is a buzzer and not a solenoid.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 23 May 2016, 09:00:25
    simple question: may I use Costar stabs with Alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 May 2016, 09:05:03
    Quote from: Eszett on Mon, 23 May 2016, 09:00:25
    simple question: may I use Costar stabs with Alps?

    I don't think so. Stabilizers on Alps are tricky. I'd stick with the Matias stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 23 May 2016, 09:15:55
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 May 2016, 09:05:03
    Quote from: Eszett on Mon, 23 May 2016, 09:00:25
    simple question: may I use Costar stabs with Alps?

    I don't think so. Stabilizers on Alps are tricky. I'd stick with the Matias stabilizers.

    Alrighty, thx Captain!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 25 May 2016, 03:12:16
    I'm looking for a good tactile switch, but apparently the tactility on MX Browns is pretty weak and Topre is too pricey for me at the moment, are there any alternatives?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 May 2016, 06:04:37
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 25 May 2016, 03:12:16
    I'm looking for a good tactile switch, but apparently the tactility on MX Browns is pretty weak and Topre is too pricey for me at the moment, are there any alternatives?

    MX clears are good, if a little heavy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Wed, 25 May 2016, 07:09:31
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 20 May 2016, 16:41:07
    Quote from: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 20 May 2016, 15:28:49
    Are Majestouch 1 keycaps PBT?

    nope ABS

    Thanks. Found my old G8-11800 with PBT caps while cleaning today. Tempted to play dentist now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 25 May 2016, 12:32:43
    Quote from: NewbieOneKenobi on Wed, 25 May 2016, 07:09:31
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 20 May 2016, 16:41:07
    Quote from: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 20 May 2016, 15:28:49
    Are Majestouch 1 keycaps PBT?

    nope ABS

    Thanks. Found my old G8-11800 with PBT caps while cleaning today. Tempted to play dentist now.

    try throwing them in with some warm water and denture tabs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 25 May 2016, 12:41:29
    Anyone got a guide for cleaning coffee spill on Realforce 87? D:

    It also happened months ago.. am I screwed? Should I just get an HHKB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 May 2016, 12:45:52
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 25 May 2016, 12:41:29
    Anyone got a guide for cleaning coffee spill on Realforce 87? D:

    It also happened months ago.. am I screwed? Should I just get an HHKB?

    Take it apart and clean everything with isopropyl alcohol. I like using 91%. Let it dry. Put it back together. Since it's been a while, it might have some issues. You would ideally have cleaned it ASAP.

    I had a friend spill soda on a Razer Blackwidow. He didn't do anything about it and it ended up corroding the PCB. I only found out about it like 3 months later. If you see corrosion, you won't be able to recover the board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 25 May 2016, 12:53:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 25 May 2016, 12:45:52
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 25 May 2016, 12:41:29
    Anyone got a guide for cleaning coffee spill on Realforce 87? D:

    It also happened months ago.. am I screwed? Should I just get an HHKB?

    Take it apart and clean everything with isopropyl alcohol. I like using 91%. Let it dry. Put it back together. Since it's been a while, it might have some issues. You would ideally have cleaned it ASAP.

    I had a friend spill soda on a Razer Blackwidow. He didn't do anything about it and it ended up corroding the PCB. I only found out about it like 3 months later. If you see corrosion, you won't be able to recover the board.

    Okay thank you CPTBA, I will try this when I have time !
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 25 May 2016, 16:13:10
    How would I go about figuring out the size of a screw I have? I have one of the original vortex aluminum tkl cases and I need new screws for it, since the original ones were too short to actually hold it together.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 26 May 2016, 16:24:39
    k another dumb question:

    is the bro set https://ctrlalt.io/buys/the-bro-set

    cherry profile or sp dcs? i looked around but didn't see what it was. its been so long since i bought it i can't remember, and i don't remember which sellers sold what profiles anymore :/

    please help :)

    thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 26 May 2016, 16:27:35
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Thu, 26 May 2016, 16:24:39
    k another dumb question:

    is the bro set https://ctrlalt.io/buys/the-bro-set

    cherry profile or sp dcs? i looked around but didn't see what it was. its been so long since i bought it i can't remember, and i don't remember which sellers sold what profiles anymore :/

    please help :)

    thanks

    DCS
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 26 May 2016, 16:38:06
    Thanks partna

    Sent from my OnePlus One

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 26 May 2016, 17:38:44
    Which of the two lubes, thick or thin, offered by Zeal are suitable for use on stabilisers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 26 May 2016, 17:39:08
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Thu, 26 May 2016, 17:38:44
    Which of the two lubes, thick or thin, offered by Zeal are suitable for use on stabilisers?

    both, thick probably better for stabs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 26 May 2016, 17:40:46
    Thanks Sifo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 26 May 2016, 23:42:00
    is there such a thing as blank white realforce set? pretty much im looking for some colorway as the white realforce (with the grey mods) but blank. is this available?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 27 May 2016, 05:39:56
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Thu, 26 May 2016, 23:42:00
    is there such a thing as blank white realforce set? pretty much im looking for some colorway as the white realforce (with the grey mods) but blank. is this available?

    Not with grey mods, but an all white blank set was available in the mists of ancient time.  Good luck finding one now though :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Fri, 27 May 2016, 09:27:40
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Thu, 26 May 2016, 23:42:00
    is there such a thing as blank white realforce set? pretty much im looking for some colorway as the white realforce (with the grey mods) but blank. is this available?

    I think that there was a guy dyeing sets over on /r/MechMarket but I don't know how well a black white set would turn out via dyeing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Suruga Devil on Fri, 27 May 2016, 12:57:18
    Are there any 104-key boards with a milled aluminum enclosure that are currently on the market? Besides that Ducky one, the brass doesn't count.

    Bonus points if it's plate mounted!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 27 May 2016, 13:21:44
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 27 May 2016, 17:19:53
    ^ It's not really on the market though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 28 May 2016, 06:05:30
    I'm building a board right now and I'm testing caps on differently lubed stabs.  However sometimes when I take the caps off the switch the stab comes off the pcb because I have to pull so hard.  Does anyone know how to prevent this?  I'm using zealios and og cherry dyesubs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HeeCh2ei on Sat, 28 May 2016, 06:42:50
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 28 May 2016, 06:05:30
    I'm building a board right now and I'm testing caps on differently lubed stabs.  However sometimes when I take the caps off the switch the stab comes off the pcb because I have to pull so hard.  Does anyone know how to prevent this?  I'm using zealios and og cherry dyesubs.

    Spread some lube over the keycap mount on stabs ( "+" shaped thing).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 28 May 2016, 08:11:39
    I'm assembling my lz rv, i've soldered all the switches, however the 1,2,3,4 don't work as well as numlock, add, multiply, subtract. insert is delete, delete is home, end is page up and vice vera, windows keys don't work, keys number 2 and 3 above the numpad give 2 and 3. anyone know what could be going on?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Suruga Devil on Sat, 28 May 2016, 12:31:25
    I'd like to have a custom PCB made for me, where can I post on Geekhack to request such a service?

    Can one-off keysets be ordered from GMK, and if so, how much would it cost? Doubleshot of course, but no custom legends.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 May 2016, 13:01:35
    Quote from: Suruga Devil on Sat, 28 May 2016, 12:31:25
    I'd like to have a custom PCB made for me, where can I post on Geekhack to request such a service?

    Can one-off keysets be ordered from GMK, and if so, how much would it cost? Doubleshot of course, but no custom legends.

    I have never heard off GMK keeping off the shelve stock; but, you may ask them, they may have left overs that you can buy. If what you want is your own colors selection; then, based on recent GBs it seems that the lowest MoQ is 150, so you may buy 150 sets, keep the amount you want, one?, and sell the rest. Why you just not joint one of the multiple current GMK group buys, instead? There are at least 3 of them active, or soon to come.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Suruga Devil on Sat, 28 May 2016, 13:20:50
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 28 May 2016, 13:01:35
    Quote from: Suruga Devil on Sat, 28 May 2016, 12:31:25
    I'd like to have a custom PCB made for me, where can I post on Geekhack to request such a service?

    Can one-off keysets be ordered from GMK, and if so, how much would it cost? Doubleshot of course, but no custom legends.

    I have never heard off GMK keeping off the shelve stock; but, you may ask them, they may have left overs that you can buy. If what you want is your own colors selection; then, based on recent GBs it seems that the lowest MoQ is 150, so you may buy 150 sets, keep the amount you want, one?, and sell the rest. Why you just not joint one of the multiple current GMK group buys, instead? There are at least 3 of them active, or soon to come.

    I'm making a custom board, 155 keys. They're all standard sized keys but I'd much rather have a custom-legend'd set then 155 blank keys or a mix of blank/printed. Sounds like GMK isn't an option, though... Might have to bite the bullet and roll with blanks instead.

    I'm gonna make a thread about it, perhaps there will be enough interest to make a group buy for the board+caps. Macro keys for days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 28 May 2016, 19:08:13
    Quote from: Suruga Devil on Sat, 28 May 2016, 12:31:25
    I'd like to have a custom PCB made for me, where can I post on Geekhack to request such a service?

    Can one-off keysets be ordered from GMK, and if so, how much would it cost? Doubleshot of course, but no custom legends.

    http://www.uniqey.net/en.html

    Not available yet, but this may be the service you're looking for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Almost on Sun, 29 May 2016, 08:03:28
    Are switch stickers re-usable?

    As in; my switches are stickered, if I re-open them to replace the springs would I need to replace the stickers also?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Sun, 29 May 2016, 08:26:36
    Quote from: Almost on Sun, 29 May 2016, 08:03:28
    Are switch stickers re-usable?

    As in; my switches are stickered, if I re-open them to replace the springs would I need to replace the stickers also?

    I've had limited success reusing stickers as they tend to snag on the switch top clips and come off.  In my experience, they can be reused if they stay in place when you remove the switch top.  If they come off, then have to replace them.

    Also, this might be interest to you:

    Polycarbonate switch films
    (http://imgur.com/L7kzCkw.jpg)

    zennasyndroxx is running a GB for those: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80010.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Almost on Sun, 29 May 2016, 08:45:23
    Quote from: infiniti on Sun, 29 May 2016, 08:26:36
    Quote from: Almost on Sun, 29 May 2016, 08:03:28
    Are switch stickers re-usable?

    As in; my switches are stickered, if I re-open them to replace the springs would I need to replace the stickers also?

    I've had limited success reusing stickers as they tend to snag on the switch top clips and come off.  In my experience, they can be reused if they stay in place when you remove the switch top.  If they come off, then have to replace them.

    Also, this might be interest to you:

    Polycarbonate switch films
    (image)

    zennasyndroxx is running a GB for those: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80010.0

    Ah I see, thank you. Those polycarb films look brilliant, double thanks for pointing me over there.

    Better play it safe and grab some from round 2 before I forget.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 29 May 2016, 11:54:32
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 29 May 2016, 12:53:20
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 29 May 2016, 11:54:32
    How does the switch feel of 45G Real Force and 45G FC660C compare?  I assume a similar feeling?
    Most seem to think the FC660 has a slightly heavier feel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 29 May 2016, 15:38:50
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 31 May 2016, 10:16:12
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 28 May 2016, 08:11:39
    I'm assembling my lz rv, i've soldered all the switches, however the 1,2,3,4 don't work as well as numlock, add, multiply, subtract. insert is delete, delete is home, end is page up and vice vera, windows keys don't work, keys number 2 and 3 above the numpad give 2 and 3. anyone know what could be going on?

    Seems like there's something soldered incorrectly. Maybe there are solder cold solder joints at those locations. Maybe there's another issue such as the PCB not being grounded correctly or otherwise. I would first check your joints with a multimeter to make sure the connection is right and fixing the joints as needed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 31 May 2016, 13:43:14
    How tactile is 45g Topre compared to something like MX Browns?

    Furthermore, I've heard that 45g topre does not feel as light as 45g browns despite being the same weight, any truth to this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 31 May 2016, 13:46:00
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 31 May 2016, 13:43:14
    How tactile is 45g Topre compared to something like MX Browns?

    Furthermore, I've heard that 45g topre does not feel as light as 45g browns despite being the same weight, any truth to this?

    I think Topre is way more tactile than MX Browns. I would rank MX Browns among my least favorite switches because they don't feel very tactile at all to me. And I don't think they feel the same at all regardless of the weights being the same number. I think numbers are misleading in general. Nothing for me ever substitutes trying a switch out in person.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Suruga Devil on Tue, 31 May 2016, 14:36:01
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 31 May 2016, 13:43:14
    How tactile is 45g Topre compared to something like MX Browns?

    Furthermore, I've heard that 45g topre does not feel as light as 45g browns despite being the same weight, any truth to this?

    Having tried both, I can say confidently that comparing the two switches is a futile effort, as they are different in every way besides the activation force.
    Topre require a good bit of force to be depressed past the activation point, but once they are past it, all the resistance disappears and you'll bottom out the key. Browns have resistance all the way towards the end. Browns are not very tactile in comparison to other tactile switches.

    Browns are entirely different than Topre, and I would not base your willingness to purchase a Topre board on how similar they are to Browns. They're really something you have to experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 31 May 2016, 14:50:00
    Thanks for the response.

    I'm aware that no Cherry switch is really comparable to Topre, but I just wanted to know how big the "bump" is. MX Browns are too wimpy is all :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 31 May 2016, 14:51:06
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 31 May 2016, 14:50:00
    Thanks for the response.

    I'm aware that no Cherry switch is really comparable to Topre, but I just wanted to know how big the "bump" is. MX Browns are too wimpy is all :)

    I definitely get that. That's my whole complaint with MX Browns. You will not get a wimpy bump with Topre that's for sure.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 31 May 2016, 14:57:18
    Quote from: klennkellon on Tue, 31 May 2016, 14:50:00
    Thanks for the response.

    I'm aware that no Cherry switch is really comparable to Topre, but I just wanted to know how big the "bump" is. MX Browns are too wimpy is all :)

    I think the best Cherry switch is Ergo Clear (swap the springs with 62g, or other). It feels really good and the bump is pretty prominent, IMO. Topre is nicer, but I enjoy typing on both.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 31 May 2016, 22:37:31
    In Two-Piece Model M keycaps, is the bottom piece also made of PBT or is it made of another material?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Wed, 01 June 2016, 04:18:20
    Hello folks, i do want to paint my HHKB case  ;D, any thoughts?
    Paint/skin/stickers, whatever
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 01 June 2016, 04:21:01
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 01 June 2016, 04:18:20
    Hello folks, i do want to paint my HHKB case  ;D, any thoughts?
    Paint/skin/stickers, whatever
    Thanks

    Plasti dip? It's easy, cheap, and reversible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 01 June 2016, 08:01:44
    Quote from: kenmai9 on Tue, 31 May 2016, 14:57:18

    In Two-Piece Model M keycaps, is the bottom piece also made of PBT or is it made of another material?

    Caps and stems are all the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: infiniti on Fri, 03 June 2016, 12:41:40
    Quote from: klennkellon on Wed, 01 June 2016, 04:21:01
    Quote from: ajx on Wed, 01 June 2016, 04:18:20
    Hello folks, i do want to paint my HHKB case  ;D, any thoughts?
    Paint/skin/stickers, whatever
    Thanks

    Plasti dip? It's easy, cheap, and reversible.

    I can confirm that it's reversible.  If you have some trouble getting it out of hard to reach places, spray some WD-40 and it will dissolve and then brush it out with an old toothbrush.

    Here's my experience with plastidip on my Shine II:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49622.msg1174145#msg1174145
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 07 June 2016, 22:30:34
    What PCB is better: the GH60 - available at techkeys - or its fork available at ebay? both are at $35.00 plus shipping. I think the first is in version 1 or something closer in green, the second is another later iteration.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iFreilicht on Wed, 08 June 2016, 02:20:36
    What is this pushbutton on the underside of the Sentraq S60-X for? It seems like quite a few 60% keyboards have it, all the 60% cases have a hole for a button like this as well.

    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/sentrant-pc-60-diy-keyboard-kit/MD-14808_20151231175053_b641419394f59cd6.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1873&h=758&dpr=1&q=80)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:06:31
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 07 June 2016, 22:30:34
    What PCB is better: the GH60 - available at techkeys - or its fork available at ebay? both are at $35.00 plus shipping. I think the first is in version 1 or something closer in green, the second is another later iteration.

    Any feedback, yet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:26:37
    Quote from: iFreilicht on Wed, 08 June 2016, 02:20:36
    What is this pushbutton on the underside of the Sentraq S60-X for? It seems like quite a few 60% keyboards have it, all the 60% cases have a hole for a button like this as well.

    Show Image
    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/sentrant-pc-60-diy-keyboard-kit/MD-14808_20151231175053_b641419394f59cd6.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1873&h=758&dpr=1&q=80)

    For putting into programming mode.

    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:06:31
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 07 June 2016, 22:30:34
    What PCB is better: the GH60 - available at techkeys - or its fork available at ebay? both are at $35.00 plus shipping. I think the first is in version 1 or something closer in green, the second is another later iteration.

    Any feedback, yet?


    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82146.0

    I'm on my phone but I know there have been a few threads recently like the one above discussing and comparing these and other 60% PCB's.

    Basically if you want backlighting and dont mind a clone get the eBay one otherwise go with techkeys for the official GH60.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iFreilicht on Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:37:49
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:26:37
    For putting into programming mode.

    Ah that certainly makes sense, thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 June 2016, 09:08:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:26:37
    Quote from: iFreilicht on Wed, 08 June 2016, 02:20:36
    What is this pushbutton on the underside of the Sentraq S60-X for? It seems like quite a few 60% keyboards have it, all the 60% cases have a hole for a button like this as well.

    Show Image
    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/sentrant-pc-60-diy-keyboard-kit/MD-14808_20151231175053_b641419394f59cd6.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1873&h=758&dpr=1&q=80)

    For putting into programming mode.

    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:06:31
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 07 June 2016, 22:30:34
    What PCB is better: the GH60 - available at techkeys - or its fork available at ebay? both are at $35.00 plus shipping. I think the first is in version 1 or something closer in green, the second is another later iteration.

    Any feedback, yet?


    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82146.0

    I'm on my phone but I know there have been a few threads recently like the one above discussing and comparing these and other 60% PCB's.

    Basically if you want backlighting and dont mind a clone get the eBay one otherwise go with techkeys for the official GH60.

    I knew that the original GH60 does not support backlighting, is there any other difference in functionality with its clone?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 08 June 2016, 10:26:51
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 08 June 2016, 09:08:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:26:37
    Quote from: iFreilicht on Wed, 08 June 2016, 02:20:36
    What is this pushbutton on the underside of the Sentraq S60-X for? It seems like quite a few 60% keyboards have it, all the 60% cases have a hole for a button like this as well.

    Show Image
    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/sentrant-pc-60-diy-keyboard-kit/MD-14808_20151231175053_b641419394f59cd6.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1873&h=758&dpr=1&q=80)

    For putting into programming mode.

    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:06:31
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 07 June 2016, 22:30:34
    What PCB is better: the GH60 - available at techkeys - or its fork available at ebay? both are at $35.00 plus shipping. I think the first is in version 1 or something closer in green, the second is another later iteration.

    Any feedback, yet?


    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82146.0

    I'm on my phone but I know there have been a few threads recently like the one above discussing and comparing these and other 60% PCB's.

    Basically if you want backlighting and dont mind a clone get the eBay one otherwise go with techkeys for the official GH60.

    I knew that the original GH60 does not support backlighting, is there any other difference in functionality with its clone?

    The techkeys GH60 does have the pads and traces for backlighting, but needs an add-on board in order to drive the LEDs. I know that some of the GH60 derivatives use different firmware than the original, and some people have had a bit of trouble with programming it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombiegristle on Thu, 09 June 2016, 15:50:08
    I've been seeing references to "OG Cherry" this and that, and people who prefer older/broken-in Cherry MX switches over new production. My question is, is there an actual manufacturing difference and if so when was the transition, or does this just mean that switches that are say a decade old or more may be valuable to some people?

    Context: I'm thinking about removing all the MX Browns from my 2002 Kinesis Advantage keywells to have another spare set of PCBs/plates, and want to know if I should keep/give/trade/sell/violentlydestroy them afterwards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 June 2016, 16:59:32
    Quote from: zombiegristle on Thu, 09 June 2016, 15:50:08
    I've been seeing references to "OG Cherry" this and that, and people who prefer older/broken-in Cherry MX switches over new production. My question is, is there an actual manufacturing difference and if so when was the transition, or does this just mean that switches that are say a decade old or more may be valuable to some people?

    Context: I'm thinking about removing all the MX Browns from my 2002 Kinesis Advantage keywells to have another spare set of PCBs/plates, and want to know if I should keep/give/trade/sell/violentlydestroy them afterwards.

    There's a difference. The molds were changed sometime in the early 90s but I'm still not 100% convinced how to ID the switches. Nor am I convinced that the mold changes were so big that there's a huge noticeable distance. I don't think your switches would fall into that time period but you can always sell loose switches for decent money.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trustinkiss on Thu, 09 June 2016, 17:23:06
    http://m.ebay.com/itm/NIB-IBM-Japanese-Lettering-Typing-Computer-102-Keyboard-Letter-Type-6112883-/380994210683

    Is this a buckling spring keyboard? Or does anybody know if it's mechanical at all? Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 09 June 2016, 18:36:11
    Quote from: trustinkiss on Thu, 09 June 2016, 17:23:06
    http://m.ebay.com/itm/NIB-IBM-Japanese-Lettering-Typing-Computer-102-Keyboard-Letter-Type-6112883-/380994210683

    Is this a buckling spring keyboard? Or does anybody know if it's mechanical at all? Thanks
    Check this thread

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63834.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 09 June 2016, 23:03:46
    Does anyone know why the lock lights on my V80 stopped working? I disassembled it to fix a switch and re-assembled it and it worked fine but then they stopped working all of this sudden.

    The caps lock key and scroll lock keys still work fine, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 10 June 2016, 08:21:24
    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 09 June 2016, 23:03:46
    Does anyone know why the lock lights on my V80 stopped working? I disassembled it to fix a switch and re-assembled it and it worked fine but then they stopped working all of this sudden.

    The caps lock key and scroll lock keys still work fine, though.

    I'd use aquakeytest or a similar tester to see if you can force the LEDs on. Then I'd check the solder joints with a multimeter. I don't know why they stopped working from your description.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 10 June 2016, 13:53:22
    OK, after I restarted my computer they work now. Very weird.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 June 2016, 11:29:15
    Can some post a pic of an ISO layout in Dvorak?  I can't seem to find any pics relating to this.

    I only need the alpha numeric block as this will be on a 60% board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spremino on Sun, 12 June 2016, 13:55:46
    Length and width of a Dell AT101[W](or AT102[W])?  Thanks.

    EDIT: Made the Windows version optional, because it doesn't matter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Sun, 12 June 2016, 14:33:15
    Quote from: spremino on Sun, 12 June 2016, 13:55:46
    Length and width of a Dell AT101W (or AT102W)?  Thanks.

    Like the actual case of the board itself?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spremino on Sun, 12 June 2016, 14:59:38
    Quote from: E3E on Sun, 12 June 2016, 14:33:15
    Quote from: spremino on Sun, 12 June 2016, 13:55:46
    Length and width of a Dell AT101W (or AT102W)?  Thanks.

    Like the actual case of the board itself?

    Yes, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spremino on Sun, 12 June 2016, 15:24:13
    Length and width of the case of an IBM Model M?  Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sun, 12 June 2016, 15:44:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 12 June 2016, 11:29:15
    Can some post a pic of an ISO layout in Dvorak?  I can't seem to find any pics relating to this.

    I only need the alpha numeric block as this will be on a 60% board.
    UK Dvorak (http://www.thespicers.net/uk-dvorak-keyboard-layout) if you don't mind different punctuation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 June 2016, 15:47:53
    Quote from: davkol on Sun, 12 June 2016, 15:44:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 12 June 2016, 11:29:15
    Can some post a pic of an ISO layout in Dvorak?  I can't seem to find any pics relating to this.

    I only need the alpha numeric block as this will be on a 60% board.
    UK Dvorak (http://www.thespicers.net/uk-dvorak-keyboard-layout) if you don't mind different punctuation.
    Thanks davkol, I am at least trying to put stock Kishy caps into Dvorak layout but with PD2 and PD3 the shape of that pair of caps is the same as ISO enter,  so I figured I would try and emulate it best I could with what I have.

    I ended up just setting the alphas to Dvorak and guessed on outside punctuation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spremino on Sun, 12 June 2016, 19:55:42
    I would like to know the length and width of the case of:
    - a Dell AT101* (or AT102*);
    - an IBM Model M.

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 12 June 2016, 19:56:41
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 June 2016, 20:07:35
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 12 June 2016, 19:56:41
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 12 June 2016, 15:47:53
    Quote from: davkol on Sun, 12 June 2016, 15:44:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 12 June 2016, 11:29:15
    Can some post a pic of an ISO layout in Dvorak?  I can't seem to find any pics relating to this.

    I only need the alpha numeric block as this will be on a 60% board.
    UK Dvorak (http://www.thespicers.net/uk-dvorak-keyboard-layout) if you don't mind different punctuation.
    Thanks davkol, I am at least trying to put stock Kishy caps into Dvorak layout but with PD2 and PD3 the shape of that pair of caps is the same as ISO enter,  so I figured I would try and emulate it best I could with what I have.

    I ended up just setting the alphas to Dvorak and guessed on outside punctuation.

    I am curious, why dvorak over colemak?  Just what you know?
    I actually know neither,  but from my reading Dvorak favors alternation over rolls and has less in common with QWERTY, so when I have to type in other boards, I shouldn't have as much as an issue.  But 95%+ of my typing is posts here so...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 12 June 2016, 20:10:01
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Mon, 13 June 2016, 05:40:33
    Quote from: spremino on Sun, 12 June 2016, 19:55:42
    I would like to know the length and width of the case of:
    - a Dell AT101* (or AT102*);
    - an IBM Model M.

    IBM Model M … 49×21 cm
    Dell AT101W … about 41.5×21.5 cm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krustyboomer on Thu, 16 June 2016, 20:15:42
    Does solder ever go bad?  I've got a spool of Kester 44, .032, that has to be at least 20-yrs old.  Oxidation, rosin age, etc.?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 June 2016, 20:34:38
    Quote from: Krustyboomer on Thu, 16 June 2016, 20:15:42
    Does solder ever go bad?  I've got a spool of Kester 44, .032, that has to be at least 20-yrs old.  Oxidation, rosin age, etc.?
    Yes it's got a shelf life. I believe it's 1-3 years but I'm not 100% sure
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 16 June 2016, 20:38:17
    Quote from: Krustyboomer on Thu, 16 June 2016, 20:15:42
    Does solder ever go bad?  I've got a spool of Kester 44, .032, that has to be at least 20-yrs old.  Oxidation, rosin age, etc.?

    I doubt the solder itself goes bad, but any non-metal flux or rosin-type components will probably run out, dry up, crystallize, or something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 17 June 2016, 12:50:02
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 June 2016, 20:34:38
    Quote from: Krustyboomer on Thu, 16 June 2016, 20:15:42
    Does solder ever go bad?  I've got a spool of Kester 44, .032, that has to be at least 20-yrs old.  Oxidation, rosin age, etc.?
    Yes it's got a shelf life. I believe it's 1-3 years but I'm not 100% sure

    I've used solder older than three years without significant issue. Not sure how much older though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krustyboomer on Fri, 17 June 2016, 15:05:13
    I've been reading where people are using solder WAY older with no problems.  Like my 20-yr old stuff.  Sometimes the rosin core might go bad and you just have to get rid of a foot or so.  If it flows well, go with it!

    I've got some .032 44 and some .020 Kester electronic silver solder.  Going to give them a try on an upcoming build.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Fri, 17 June 2016, 17:40:12
    Black or White HHKB? I have a white one currently, but I'm getting a second PC, so I need another KB


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sempre on Fri, 17 June 2016, 20:14:01
    Get a black one
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 18 June 2016, 04:05:21
    white is right
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Sat, 18 June 2016, 04:21:12
    Quote from: Sempre on Fri, 17 June 2016, 20:14:01
    Get a black one
    Yeah, it would be nice to change it up


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Sat, 18 June 2016, 06:16:10
    Quote from: Sempre on Fri, 17 June 2016, 20:14:01
    Get a black one
    Yeah, it would be nice to change it up


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 18 June 2016, 09:02:57
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Sat, 18 June 2016, 06:16:10
    Quote from: Sempre on Fri, 17 June 2016, 20:14:01
    Get a black one

    Yeah, it would be nice to change it up


    I think that it can look good to get matching black and white keyboards and swap the caps into the opposite cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Sat, 18 June 2016, 09:04:36
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 18 June 2016, 09:02:57
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Sat, 18 June 2016, 06:16:10
    Quote from: Sempre on Fri, 17 June 2016, 20:14:01
    Get a black one

    Yeah, it would be nice to change it up


    I think that it can look good to get matching black and white keyboards and swap the caps into the opposite cases.
    I was thinking about making the Space Invaders guys, with inverted colors.


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Celcius on Sat, 18 June 2016, 10:16:38
    I got in on the SkiData+ GMK keycaps group buy and now I need a keyboard to use them on. I want a full size keyboard with cherry mx brown switches... any suggestions?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Sat, 18 June 2016, 14:24:21
    Quote from: Celcius on Sat, 18 June 2016, 10:16:38
    I got in on the SkiData+ GMK keycaps group buy and now I need a keyboard to use them on. I want a full size keyboard with cherry mx brown switches... any suggestions?

    Budget?  LED preference?  Custom or no?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: streetwizzur on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:42:55
    Does the GH60 rev. C have any led support?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:46:14
    Quote from: streetwizzur on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:42:55
    Does the GH60 rev. C have any led support?

    It has pads and traces for full backlighting, but it needs an external board to act as a controller. A few LEDs/zones are available without an external board, such as WASD lights.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: streetwizzur on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:51:44
    Quote from: user 18 on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:46:14
    Quote from: streetwizzur on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:42:55
    Does the GH60 rev. C have any led support?

    It has pads and traces for full backlighting, but it needs an external board to act as a controller. A few LEDs/zones are available without an external board, such as WASD lights.
    Is that a thing I can buy? Or would something like a rgb strip work under it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:54:22
    Quote from: streetwizzur on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:51:44
    Quote from: user 18 on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:46:14
    Quote from: streetwizzur on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:42:55
    Does the GH60 rev. C have any led support?

    It has pads and traces for full backlighting, but it needs an external board to act as a controller. A few LEDs/zones are available without an external board, such as WASD lights.
    Is that a thing I can buy? Or would something like a rgb strip work under it?

    I'm not sure, sorry.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 June 2016, 19:00:46
    Quote from: streetwizzur on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:51:44
    Quote from: user 18 on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:46:14
    Quote from: streetwizzur on Sat, 18 June 2016, 17:42:55
    Does the GH60 rev. C have any led support?

    It has pads and traces for full backlighting, but it needs an external board to act as a controller. A few LEDs/zones are available without an external board, such as WASD lights.
    Is that a thing I can buy? Or would something like a rgb strip work under it?
    Search for QMK firmware. People are using that with RGB led strips to get underglow.

    I know with the Satan GH60 and Phantom so it should be possible with regular GH60.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krustyboomer on Sat, 18 June 2016, 19:03:37
    Any coupon codes to Winkeyless?  % off, first order discount?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Celcius on Sat, 18 June 2016, 19:11:33
    Quote from: Waateva on Sat, 18 June 2016, 14:24:21
    Quote from: Celcius on Sat, 18 June 2016, 10:16:38
    I got in on the SkiData+ GMK keycaps group buy and now I need a keyboard to use them on. I want a full size keyboard with cherry mx brown switches... any suggestions?

    Budget?  LED preference?  Custom or no?
    I'd like to spend no more than $200. I always turn off LEDs on my boards but it's cool if they're included (as long as they can be turned off). At this time I'm looking for something that I can just buy and put the keycaps on instead of building it myself. At first I was just thinking about a Filco Majestouch 2 but wanted to see if there are any better options for the price range.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 18 June 2016, 20:28:43
    Quote from: Krustyboomer on Sat, 18 June 2016, 19:03:37
    Any coupon codes to Winkeyless?  % off, first order discount?

    Not sure I've ever seen discounts on keyboard sites...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krustyboomer on Sat, 18 June 2016, 20:54:11
    They've got a prominent coupon code area both in the cart and in the checkout areas.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 June 2016, 21:03:53
    Quote from: Krustyboomer on Sat, 18 June 2016, 20:54:11
    They've got a prominent coupon code area both in the cart and in the checkout areas.

    So just message them and ask them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Mon, 20 June 2016, 18:30:20
    does anyone have a link for a standard qwerty layout (or some sort of hhkb layout would be better) for gh60 rev. c with atmega 32u4.
    I cannot for the life of me figure out how to make my own layouts or any of that stuff (which is why I only buy Gons now) so I have resorted to just trying to find anyone's premade hex file.

    After a long time searching the only one I can find anywhere is a colemak ISO one which someone linked in a thread where someone was looking for help doing the same thing I'm trying to do.

    Thankyou, if anyone can help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 June 2016, 19:27:55
    Quote from: Fullcream on Mon, 20 June 2016, 18:30:20
    does anyone have a link for a standard qwerty layout (or some sort of hhkb layout would be better) for gh60 rev. c with atmega 32u4.
    I cannot for the life of me figure out how to make my own layouts or any of that stuff (which is why I only buy Gons now) so I have resorted to just trying to find anyone's premade hex file.

    After a long time searching the only one I can find anywhere is a colemak ISO one which someone linked in a thread where someone was looking for help doing the same thing I'm trying to do.

    Thankyou, if anyone can help!
    EasyAVR as the name implies it makes it easy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Mon, 20 June 2016, 20:56:17
    Thank you for telling me about EasyAVR
    It seems to work however not properly for me. I built my layout and then saved the hex and reprogrammed and all my layout works except the button I programmed as FN registers as a windows key and my right shift doesn't register but the button to the right of right shift registers as right shift however that was also meant to be FN but nothing else is accidentally registering as FN so nothing has swapped around by accident.
    I really have no idea.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Mon, 20 June 2016, 23:57:28
    How well does the KBP V60 work with OS X?


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 21 June 2016, 04:30:40
    Quote from: Fullcream on Mon, 20 June 2016, 18:30:20
    does anyone have a link for a standard qwerty layout (or some sort of hhkb layout would be better) for gh60 rev. c with atmega 32u4.
    I cannot for the life of me figure out how to make my own layouts or any of that stuff (which is why I only buy Gons now) so I have resorted to just trying to find anyone's premade hex file.

    After a long time searching the only one I can find anywhere is a colemak ISO one which someone linked in a thread where someone was looking for help doing the same thing I'm trying to do.

    Thankyou, if anyone can help!

    You can test this one out, https://github.com/jackhumbert/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboard/gh60/keymaps/default/compiled.hex. (Click on the "Raw" button)

    This should help you debug if your issue is a software or hardware one as Easy AVR doesn't seem to be working for you (Although it should be)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Tue, 21 June 2016, 04:40:00
    Thanks! But was just reading another thread where people were mentioning there is often a problem with short right shifts/fn on the gh60 and apparently it's a hardware issue and it just fixes by swapping them around in EasyAVR.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Tue, 21 June 2016, 05:26:31
    anyone from Germany who could do some proxying (to the netherlands)?
    dunno where else i'd ask
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 June 2016, 07:28:17
    Are the 7u wires for Cherry stabs exactly the same for plate mounted ones than those for PCB mount?
    Does anyone have a spec for Cherry 7u wire PCB and plate mounted?

    Thank you for your help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 21 June 2016, 13:30:03
    Quote from: ideus on Tue, 21 June 2016, 07:28:17
    Are the 7u wires for Cherry stabs exactly the same for plate mounted ones than those for PCB mount?
    Does anyone have a spec for Cherry 7u wire PCB and plate mounted?

    Thank you for your help.

    PCB and plate mount wires are interchangeable. As far as dimensions, that I can't help with sorry.

    Quote from: Fullcream on Mon, 20 June 2016, 20:56:17
    Thank you for telling me about EasyAVR
    It seems to work however not properly for me. I built my layout and then saved the hex and reprogrammed and all my layout works except the button I programmed as FN registers as a windows key and my right shift doesn't register but the button to the right of right shift registers as right shift however that was also meant to be FN but nothing else is accidentally registering as FN so nothing has swapped around by accident.
    I really have no idea.

    You have to put the FN key in the same location on both layers.  So from base layer, you need FN1 in the same location as FN1 on the FN1 layer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:22:30
    Where can I purchase a colorful set of DSA modifiers?



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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:23:06
    Which set of these modifiers will fit my Pok3r (Base or Additional)?

    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-think-different-keycap-set/


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Tue, 21 June 2016, 18:10:17
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:23:06
    Which set of these modifiers will fit my Pok3r (Base or Additional)?

    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-think-different-keycap-set/


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    You need the standard modifiers for a pok3r. Note that if you want to cover the whole board you will also need the base kit, which includes the alphas.

    You'll have some extra keys left over, as the base kit + standard modifiers is enough to cover a TKL board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 June 2016, 18:13:55
    @Melvang: Thank you for confirming that 7u wires are the same for plate and PCB mounted plastics.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 01:38:34
    Quote from: user 18 on Tue, 21 June 2016, 18:10:17
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:23:06
    Which set of these modifiers will fit my Pok3r (Base or Additional)?

    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-think-different-keycap-set/


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    You need the standard modifiers for a pok3r. Note that if you want to cover the whole board you will also need the base kit, which includes the alphas.

    You'll have some extra keys left over, as the base kit + standard modifiers is enough to cover a TKL board.
    Ok, I was actually going to use these as my base:
    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-sublimated-keycap-sets/

    Would that work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 02:57:46
    Where can I get a Tux DSA key?


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dermixxer on Wed, 22 June 2016, 03:05:50
    Whats the cheapest fully programmable board out there? (60-80%)
    Only found the option to upgrade CM Quickfire Rapid + Filco Majestouch with a custom controller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:04:09
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 02:57:46
    Where can I get a Tux DSA key?

    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:22:30
    Where can I purchase a colorful set of DSA modifiers?

    Are there any on the SP/PMK sites?

    Quote from: dermixxer on Wed, 22 June 2016, 03:05:50
    Whats the cheapest fully programmable board out there? (60-80%)
    Only found the option to upgrade CM Quickfire Rapid + Filco Majestouch with a custom controller.

    I think that would be pretty cheap. You could also pick up like a Rosewill or something for cheap then setup a Hasu USB-to-USB converter.

    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Mon, 20 June 2016, 23:57:28
    How well does the KBP V60 work with OS X?

    Shouldn't have any problems as far as I know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:24:06
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 01:38:34
    Quote from: user 18 on Tue, 21 June 2016, 18:10:17
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:23:06
    Which set of these modifiers will fit my Pok3r (Base or Additional)?

    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-think-different-keycap-set/


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    You need the standard modifiers for a pok3r. Note that if you want to cover the whole board you will also need the base kit, which includes the alphas.

    You'll have some extra keys left over, as the base kit + standard modifiers is enough to cover a TKL board.
    Ok, I was actually going to use these as my base:
    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-sublimated-keycap-sets/

    Would that work?

    Yes, that should be fine as well  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:36:11
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:22:30
    Where can I purchase a colorful set of DSA modifiers?

    There are some colorful keysets like the Rainbow one at PMK but I don't see just a modifiers option listed.

    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/keysets/

    Otherwise you could piece things together by ordering each piece separately and choosing the exact colors you would want but they would be blanks.

    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/blank-key-packs/dsa/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:46:43
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:04:09
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 02:57:46
    Where can I get a Tux DSA key?

    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:22:30
    Where can I purchase a colorful set of DSA modifiers?

    Are there any on the SP/PMK sites?

    Quote from: dermixxer on Wed, 22 June 2016, 03:05:50
    Whats the cheapest fully programmable board out there? (60-80%)
    Only found the option to upgrade CM Quickfire Rapid + Filco Majestouch with a custom controller.

    I think that would be pretty cheap. You could also pick up like a Rosewill or something for cheap then setup a Hasu USB-to-USB converter.

    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Mon, 20 June 2016, 23:57:28
    How well does the KBP V60 work with OS X?

    Shouldn't have any problems as far as I know.
    No Tux on PMK. Idk what SP is
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:47:05
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:24:06
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 01:38:34
    Quote from: user 18 on Tue, 21 June 2016, 18:10:17
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:23:06
    Which set of these modifiers will fit my Pok3r (Base or Additional)?

    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-think-different-keycap-set/


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    You need the standard modifiers for a pok3r. Note that if you want to cover the whole board you will also need the base kit, which includes the alphas.

    You'll have some extra keys left over, as the base kit + standard modifiers is enough to cover a TKL board.
    Ok, I was actually going to use these as my base:
    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-sublimated-keycap-sets/

    Would that work?

    Yes, that should be fine as well  :thumb:
    Thanks!


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:47:59
    Quote from: Waateva on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:36:11
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:22:30
    Where can I purchase a colorful set of DSA modifiers?

    There are some colorful keysets like the Rainbow one at PMK but I don't see just a modifiers option listed.

    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/keysets/

    Otherwise you could piece things together by ordering each piece separately and choosing the exact colors you would want but they would be blanks.

    http://pimpmykeyboard.com/blank-key-packs/dsa/
    Thanks. I was going to go with the rainbow kit but I couldn't get modifiers only. Perhaps the Think Different modifiers will do for now
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:50:08
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 09:46:43
    No Tux on PMK. Idk what SP is

    SP is the same people as PMK. Also known as Signature Plastics. PMK is their storefront that caters to the keyboarding enthusiast community. They used to have a separate marketplace site from PMK but it looks like they've migrated over to PMK completely. Not sure where else to look for that Tux cap. Maybe Techkeys.us still has some? I thought they stocked them at one point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 12:43:05
    What size are the bottom rows of keys on the Pok3r (I'm trying to get blank modifiers)


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 June 2016, 12:47:23
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 12:43:05
    What size are the bottom rows of keys on the Pok3r (I'm trying to get blank modifiers)

    1.25x modifiers with a 6.25x spacebar. Standard ANSI
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 12:47:59
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 22 June 2016, 12:47:23
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 12:43:05
    What size are the bottom rows of keys on the Pok3r (I'm trying to get blank modifiers)

    1.25x modifiers with a 6.25x spacebar. Standard ANSI
    Thanks!


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:49:57
    What is the measurement of the "Enter" key on the Pok3r?


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:17:00
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:49:57
    What is the measurement of the "Enter" key on the Pok3r?


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    2.25 units width for the ANSI version, remarking just in case there is an ISO one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:23:18
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:17:00
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:49:57
    What is the measurement of the "Enter" key on the Pok3r?


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    2.25 units width for the ANSI version, remarking just in case there is an ISO one.
    Thanks!


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:30:56
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:17:00
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:49:57
    What is the measurement of the "Enter" key on the Pok3r?


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    2.25 units width for the ANSI version, remarking just in case there is an ISO one.
    So then 1.75 would be tab and 2 would be something else, correct?


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:39:59
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:30:56
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:17:00
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:49:57
    What is the measurement of the "Enter" key on the Pok3r?


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    2.25 units width for the ANSI version, remarking just in case there is an ISO one.
    So then 1.75 would be tab and 2 would be something else, correct?


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    Tab is 1.5. 1.75 would be caps lock. 2 units is backspace.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:40:53
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:39:59
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:30:56
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 22 June 2016, 17:17:00
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive on Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:49:57
    What is the measurement of the "Enter" key on the Pok3r?


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    2.25 units width for the ANSI version, remarking just in case there is an ISO one.
    So then 1.75 would be tab and 2 would be something else, correct?


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    Tab is 1.5. 1.75 would be caps lock. 2 units is backspace.
    Thanks then


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: streetwizzur on Wed, 22 June 2016, 21:10:37
    So I built my gh60 rev. C. I know it supports a few leds (WASD, etc) but I need resistors, what kind would I need to get? There seems to be through holes on the pcb where they would go.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 22 June 2016, 21:13:59
    Does anyone here offer handwiring services? Searching the artisan forum is rough. If I can't find someone I'll attempt it myself but... I'd rather not.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 June 2016, 21:26:31
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Wed, 22 June 2016, 21:13:59
    Does anyone here offer handwiring services? Searching the artisan forum is rough. If I can't find someone I'll attempt it myself but... I'd rather not.
    You can always post a WTB Handwiring Services in classifieds buy be specific about what you want.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 23 June 2016, 02:48:43
    Quote from: streetwizzur on Wed, 22 June 2016, 21:10:37
    So I built my gh60 rev. C. I know it supports a few leds (WASD, etc) but I need resistors, what kind would I need to get? There seems to be through holes on the pcb where they would go.

    Depends on what LEDs you intend to use. For most LEDs rated at 20mA, ~2V, people use anything between 133 - 1500ohms.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 23 June 2016, 03:32:54
    Quote from: MOZ on Thu, 23 June 2016, 02:48:43
    Quote from: streetwizzur on Wed, 22 June 2016, 21:10:37
    So I built my gh60 rev. C. I know it supports a few leds (WASD, etc) but I need resistors, what kind would I need to get? There seems to be through holes on the pcb where they would go.
    Depends on what LEDs you intend to use. For most LEDs rated at 20mA, ~2V, people use anything between 133 - 1500ohms.

    When I had that same question I was told pretty much the same thing.

    I was told these should work so I or ordered them https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0185FC5IG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0185FC5IG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
    I still haven't built my GH60 yet though to test them out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 23 June 2016, 04:00:19
    There's a number of things to factor, maximum current draw of each pin on the MCU, total maximum draw of the MCU, current characteristics of the LED and how bright you want them to be. 1k is pretty safe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Thu, 23 June 2016, 06:05:52
    What have I done to my GON?
    So all I wanted to do to my Nerd60 was desolder the LED's
    Pop the switch tops off and push my 2x3x4 LED's down under the switch top and solder them in place down there.

    First I did the whole middle row, checked after and no problems everything worked, then did the bottom 2 rows, plugged it in and now the following switches no longer register.
    (http://i66.tinypic.com/2eofq7k.jpg)

    Certainly looks like some sort of pattern. Any ideas on what I have broken?

    Note: I have no switches assigned to ~ and the left winkey on base layer
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 23 June 2016, 07:01:35
    Quote from: Fullcream on Thu, 23 June 2016, 06:05:52
    What have I done to my GON?
    So all I wanted to do to my Nerd60 was desolder the LED's
    Pop the switch tops off and push my 2x3x4 LED's down under the switch top and solder them in place down there.

    First I did the whole middle row, checked after and no problems everything worked, then did the bottom 2 rows, plugged it in and now the following switches no longer register.
    Show Image
    (http://i66.tinypic.com/2eofq7k.jpg)


    Certainly looks like some sort of pattern. Any ideas on what I have broken?

    Note: I have no switches assigned to ~ and the left winkey on base layer

    What type of diodes are used on the board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 June 2016, 07:10:06


    Quote from: Fullcream on Thu, 23 June 2016, 06:05:52
    What have I done to my GON?
    So all I wanted to do to my Nerd60 was desolder the LED's
    Pop the switch tops off and push my 2x3x4 LED's down under the switch top and solder them in place down there.

    I've never heard of putting the leds under the switch top, is that a thing now? :confused:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Thu, 23 June 2016, 07:14:59
    Quote from: MOZ on Thu, 23 June 2016, 07:01:35
    Quote from: Fullcream on Thu, 23 June 2016, 06:05:52
    What have I done to my GON?
    So all I wanted to do to my Nerd60 was desolder the LED's
    Pop the switch tops off and push my 2x3x4 LED's down under the switch top and solder them in place down there.

    First I did the whole middle row, checked after and no problems everything worked, then did the bottom 2 rows, plugged it in and now the following switches no longer register.
    Show Image
    (http://i66.tinypic.com/2eofq7k.jpg)


    Certainly looks like some sort of pattern. Any ideas on what I have broken?

    Note: I have no switches assigned to ~ and the left winkey on base layer

    What type of diodes are used on the board?

    Umm. Hmm I'm total noob with diodes and resistors and all that stuff. I just got the board presoldered.
    I guess the diodes are SMD? Or was it something else you needed to know?
    I can just take a pic of the pcb if you want.

    @spamray. Yeah I had not read about it until not long ago. I wish I knew it from the start and did it like that to begin with.
    Put them inside under the switchtop if you have ckear switches and the glow is dispersed better. Also no desoldering to remove switch tops and no hassles with keycap clearance at all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Thu, 23 June 2016, 07:41:48
    A photograph of the PCB as well as where you read about the "true" in-switch LEDs would help. I'd also suggest making a new thread, as this doesn't seem like such a simple question, where you'll get a straightforward answer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fullcream on Thu, 23 June 2016, 07:53:11
    Yeah I guess you're right it isn't really a simple question at all.
    I'll make a thread soon. Thanks for your help though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zephyr11 on Thu, 23 June 2016, 21:57:31
    I have a noob question.

    is there a TKL hotswappable mx compatible keyboard, that is either black or silver plastic or aluminum framed?

    best if it is also barebones, no keycaps or switches.

     
    thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Aristo on Fri, 24 June 2016, 01:05:09
    Hi folks!

    I need some help identifying a Model M, and this seemed like the perfect place to ask! Here's the keyboard in question:

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yGIAAOSwWntXNJJ~/s-l1600.jpg)

    Now, it was advertised as a 42H1292, but I thought that model had the logo in the top left in an oval. Wikipedia says that the only model with a logo under the lock lights is the 1393669, and that has a Yugoslav layout. So I'm pretty puzzled as to what this keyboard really is. It's definitely PS/2 and the date of manufacture was listed at 02-08-01.
    Any help would be appreciated!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krustyboomer on Fri, 24 June 2016, 14:58:42
    Are there color limits to dyesub caps?  Do most only do black dyesub?  I was trying to get some red dyseub on black caps, but no go.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 24 June 2016, 15:05:52
    Quote from: Krustyboomer on Fri, 24 June 2016, 14:58:42
    Are there color limits to dyesub caps?  Do most only do black dyesub?  I was trying to get some red dyseub on black caps, but no go.

    The base color has to be lighter than the color you're dye-subbing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Fri, 24 June 2016, 15:09:29
    Quote from: Krustyboomer on Fri, 24 June 2016, 14:58:42
    Are there color limits to dyesub caps?  Do most only do black dyesub?  I was trying to get some red dyseub on black caps, but no go.

    I believe you can only dyesub darker colors on lighter caps, so I don't know if red would work on black caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Krustyboomer on Fri, 24 June 2016, 17:55:59
    So every black cap with white lettering is roll printed?  Assuming not double shot or laser/infilled?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 24 June 2016, 22:45:18
    Quote from: Krustyboomer on Fri, 24 June 2016, 17:55:59
    So every black cap with white lettering is roll printed?  Assuming not double shot or laser/infilled?

    Depends a long on cap material,  for example for white legends in black caps for pbt,  due sub will not work unless all but the legend is due sub, and I don't know if anyone doing that, or it could be infill, pad printed, or in the case of Vortex a POM double shot legend.  For ABS due sub does not work to my knowledge do to the chemistry of the due not penetrating the plastic but double shot is much easier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 25 June 2016, 21:48:21
    Quote from: Aristo on Fri, 24 June 2016, 01:05:09
    Hi folks!

    I need some help identifying a Model M, and this seemed like the perfect place to ask! Here's the keyboard in question:

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yGIAAOSwWntXNJJ~/s-l1600.jpg)


    Now, it was advertised as a 42H1292, but I thought that model had the logo in the top left in an oval. Wikipedia says that the only model with a logo under the lock lights is the 1393669, and that has a Yugoslav layout. So I'm pretty puzzled as to what this keyboard really is. It's definitely PS/2 and the date of manufacture was listed at 02-08-01.
    Any help would be appreciated!

    Easiest way to ID it is to see the label on the black. Looks like a normal ANSI layout too.

    Quote from: zephyr11 on Thu, 23 June 2016, 21:57:31
    I have a noob question.

    is there a TKL hotswappable mx compatible keyboard, that is either black or silver plastic or aluminum framed?

    best if it is also barebones, no keycaps or switches.

     
    thanks!

    No
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: potatobot on Mon, 27 June 2016, 11:13:58
    Has anyone here reviewed the b.87 replica?


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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Auxo on Tue, 28 June 2016, 19:49:24
    Is there an aluminum (bottom) case for the Red Scarf 84 keyboard?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 June 2016, 09:47:37
    Quote from: CJD_Anthony on Tue, 28 June 2016, 19:49:24
    Is there an aluminum (bottom) case for the Red Scarf 84 keyboard?

    Thanks.

    Not that I'm aware of but I wouldn't be surprised if something popped up on TaoBao for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 29 June 2016, 17:31:48
    Does anyone know the SP color codes used in the OTD Wyse DSA keyset?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: STR8_AN94BALLER on Wed, 29 June 2016, 18:55:20
    My keyboard LEFT ALT stop working a few mins ago, had to clean the inside of the switch (press down, compressed air bottle with straw) to get it working again.

    Normal or?

    Greetech Black, Bloody B540, 3+ years of use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 June 2016, 20:30:56
    Quote from: STR8_AN94BALLER on Wed, 29 June 2016, 18:55:20
    My keyboard LEFT ALT stop working a few mins ago, had to clean the inside of the switch (press down, compressed air bottle with straw) to get it working again.

    Normal or?

    Greetech Black, Bloody B540, 3+ years of use.
    Pretty normal yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Wed, 29 June 2016, 20:33:47
    I find that Iso alcohol works wonders too. Just need to work the hell out of those switches to make sure the fluid doesn't stay there for too long.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rand77 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 09:15:44
    Just finished putting SIP sockets into 68 switches for a Whitefox 68% build.  I have my board ready to solder with 62g zealios / 78g spacebar.

    I didn't snap each switch into the plate, rather they appear to be "PCB mounted" as shown in the pictures below. This was done as it was *extremely* difficult to line up the SIP sockets with the holes in the PCB if the switches were snapped into the plate.

    Is this how its supposed to be done? Or is there supposed to be a larger gap between the PCB and plate? Just wanted to get feedback from some more experienced people before actually soldering them in.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dante on Thu, 30 June 2016, 10:20:15
    Do Black Alps switches contain the stiffest spring you can (commonly) find for Alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: emdude on Thu, 30 June 2016, 11:07:52
    I believe so, can't say for certain whether it is just the spring or a combination of the spring and the tactile leaf though; I think it is the latter.  Have a look at this force graph of common Alps switches:

    (http://cdn.overclock.net/1/1f/1f97fde6_15d03bfd30acf34543b0e6446077f82c.gif)

    I think SKCM Ambers or Browns may be heavier yet.  Those are much rarer though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: appleonama on Thu, 30 June 2016, 11:15:40
    Quote from: rand77 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 09:15:44
    Just finished putting SIP sockets into 68 switches for a Whitefox 68% build.  I have my board ready to solder with 62g zealios / 78g spacebar.

    I didn't snap each switch into the plate, rather they appear to be "PCB mounted" as shown in the pictures below. This was done as it was *extremely* difficult to line up the SIP sockets with the holes in the PCB if the switches were snapped into the plate.

    Is this how its supposed to be done? Or is there supposed to be a larger gap between the PCB and plate? Just wanted to get feedback from some more experienced people before actually soldering them in.

    To make it easier to align the sip sockets I advice you put an led into sip sockets before you put them on the PCB. Start by placing a switch on all four corners and snapping them into the plate and PCB. Sometimes the switches need a lot of pressure/force to make them go into the PCB due to the PCB-stabs on the switch. Dont be afraid to put force into it placing the switch just make sure you don't bend the pcb too muchh.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 June 2016, 11:43:57
    Quote from: rand77 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 09:15:44
    Just finished putting SIP sockets into 68 switches for a Whitefox 68% build.  I have my board ready to solder with 62g zealios / 78g spacebar.

    I didn't snap each switch into the plate, rather they appear to be "PCB mounted" as shown in the pictures below. This was done as it was *extremely* difficult to line up the SIP sockets with the holes in the PCB if the switches were snapped into the plate.

    Is this how its supposed to be done? Or is there supposed to be a larger gap between the PCB and plate? Just wanted to get feedback from some more experienced people before actually soldering them in.

    Nothing looks like it's out of place as far as I can tell.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 12:45:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 June 2016, 11:43:57
    Quote from: rand77 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 09:15:44
    Just finished putting SIP sockets into 68 switches for a Whitefox 68% build.  I have my board ready to solder with 62g zealios / 78g spacebar.

    I didn't snap each switch into the plate, rather they appear to be "PCB mounted" as shown in the pictures below. This was done as it was *extremely* difficult to line up the SIP sockets with the holes in the PCB if the switches were snapped into the plate.

    Is this how its supposed to be done? Or is there supposed to be a larger gap between the PCB and plate? Just wanted to get feedback from some more experienced people before actually soldering them in.

    Nothing looks like it's out of place as far as I can tell.
    The switches should be fully bottomed (snapped in) the plate. The way you have in now the plate isn't serving any purpose.
    @CPTBadAss what are you looking at? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rand77 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 20:08:44
    Thanks for the feedback guys.   I removed all switches and reinstalled them making sure they are flush with the plate.

    I managed to get the SIP sockets to easily fit in the PCB holes by using an LED to keep them straight during insertion. 

    Keyboard is built and works perfectly now!

    Quote from: MJ45 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 12:45:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 June 2016, 11:43:57
    Quote from: rand77 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 09:15:44
    Just finished putting SIP sockets into 68 switches for a Whitefox 68% build.  I have my board ready to solder with 62g zealios / 78g spacebar.

    I didn't snap each switch into the plate, rather they appear to be "PCB mounted" as shown in the pictures below. This was done as it was *extremely* difficult to line up the SIP sockets with the holes in the PCB if the switches were snapped into the plate.

    Is this how its supposed to be done? Or is there supposed to be a larger gap between the PCB and plate? Just wanted to get feedback from some more experienced people before actually soldering them in.

    Nothing looks like it's out of place as far as I can tell.
    The switches should be fully bottomed (snapped in) the plate. The way you have in now the plate isn't serving any purpose.
    @CPTBadAss what are you looking at? 

    Quote from: appleonama on Thu, 30 June 2016, 11:15:40
    Quote from: rand77 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 09:15:44
    Just finished putting SIP sockets into 68 switches for a Whitefox 68% build.  I have my board ready to solder with 62g zealios / 78g spacebar.

    I didn't snap each switch into the plate, rather they appear to be "PCB mounted" as shown in the pictures below. This was done as it was *extremely* difficult to line up the SIP sockets with the holes in the PCB if the switches were snapped into the plate.

    Is this how its supposed to be done? Or is there supposed to be a larger gap between the PCB and plate? Just wanted to get feedback from some more experienced people before actually soldering them in.

    To make it easier to align the sip sockets I advice you put an led into sip sockets before you put them on the PCB. Start by placing a switch on all four corners and snapping them into the plate and PCB. Sometimes the switches need a lot of pressure/force to make them go into the PCB due to the PCB-stabs on the switch. Dont be afraid to put force into it placing the switch just make sure you don't bend the pcb too muchh.

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 June 2016, 11:43:57
    Quote from: rand77 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 09:15:44
    Just finished putting SIP sockets into 68 switches for a Whitefox 68% build.  I have my board ready to solder with 62g zealios / 78g spacebar.

    I didn't snap each switch into the plate, rather they appear to be "PCB mounted" as shown in the pictures below. This was done as it was *extremely* difficult to line up the SIP sockets with the holes in the PCB if the switches were snapped into the plate.

    Is this how its supposed to be done? Or is there supposed to be a larger gap between the PCB and plate? Just wanted to get feedback from some more experienced people before actually soldering them in.

    Nothing looks like it's out of place as far as I can tell.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 June 2016, 23:20:35


    Quote from: MJ45 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 12:45:25
    The switches should be fully bottomed (snapped in) the plate. The way you have in now the plate isn't serving any purpose.
    @CPTBadAss what are you looking at?

    Got confused and just checked that gap between the plate and the pcb. You're right of course.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jigg4 on Fri, 01 July 2016, 04:20:21
    where to get lube for MX-Black Switches and Stickers in europe?
    Would like to modify my switches, but cannot find a shop or reseller for the parts. Ordering from USA has really high shipping cost and lasts forever...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Yuuki on Sat, 02 July 2016, 12:29:59
    Hello

    1/ What's the default key shorcut for switching between kmac2 backlight mode ?
    EDIT : I just found it, it was menu key and escape

    2/ Did anyone have any success progamming a kmac 2 on windows 10 ? if yes, how ?

    Thanks in advance
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 02 July 2016, 15:06:55
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Wed, 29 June 2016, 17:31:48
    Does anyone know the SP color codes used in the OTD Wyse DSA keyset?

    Found the answer to my question in case anyone else has the same in the future.

    According to the OTD group buy information here (http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=board1&wr_id=703264):

    Colors are as follows: BBI, GSX, GTD, YY

    (https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/c/ce/WYSE_SP_colors_001.jpg/625px-WYSE_SP_colors_001.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 04 July 2016, 19:58:39
    Are there any places I could order a universal 60 plate from besides GON's?  :)

    Im in need for one on a build im doing for my gf, and only got hhkb ones on LeandreN R4.
    (Already shot him a pm to check if theres leftovers)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 July 2016, 20:56:50
    Quote from: Yuuki on Sat, 02 July 2016, 12:29:59
    Hello

    1/ What's the default key shorcut for switching between kmac2 backlight mode ?
    EDIT : I just found it, it was menu key and escape

    2/ Did anyone have any success progamming a kmac 2 on windows 10 ? if yes, how ?

    Thanks in advance

    2) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0

    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Mon, 04 July 2016, 19:58:39
    Are there any places I could order a universal 60 plate from besides GON's?  :)

    Im in need for one on a build im doing for my gf, and only got hhkb ones on LeandreN R4.
    (Already shot him a pm to check if theres leftovers)

    I'm not super familiar with all the vendors on r/mk but there's no one there that has it in stock? I figured one vendor would. What you listed would be my go-to options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 04 July 2016, 21:03:29

    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 July 2016, 20:56:50
    Quote from: Yuuki on Sat, 02 July 2016, 12:29:59
    Hello

    1/ What's the default key shorcut for switching between kmac2 backlight mode ?
    EDIT : I just found it, it was menu key and escape

    2/ Did anyone have any success progamming a kmac 2 on windows 10 ? if yes, how ?

    Thanks in advance

    2) https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0

    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Mon, 04 July 2016, 19:58:39
    Are there any places I could order a universal 60 plate from besides GON's?  :)

    Im in need for one on a build im doing for my gf, and only got hhkb ones on LeandreN R4.
    (Already shot him a pm to check if theres leftovers)

    I'm not super familiar with all the vendors on r/mk but there's no one there that has it in stock? I figured one vendor would. What you listed would be my go-to options.

    Thx CPT

    Never really checked out r/mk much tbh..
    Have seen some of the rather toxic community over there and much prefer it here on GH.

    I shot LeandreN a pm asking for leftovers.
    GON's plate looks great, gotta check how much shipping would add...

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Tue, 05 July 2016, 01:47:53
    Sentraq has them, http://sentraq.com/products/60-aluminum-plate-1

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 06 July 2016, 03:03:32
    Anyone if you can buy switch top removal tools in Europe (like these: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1363)? I would buy em off mk.com, but the shipping is ridiculous...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 06 July 2016, 07:43:49
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Wed, 06 July 2016, 03:03:32
    Anyone if you can buy switch top removal tools in Europe (like these: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1363)? I would buy em off mk.com, but the shipping is ridiculous...
    I think they can probably ship cheaper if you contact them and ask.

    If they can't I'm sure I could proxy some for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:19:37
    Is there an easy way to setup Space FN on a GON Nerd60?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:22:54
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:19:37
    Is there an easy way to setup Space FN on a GON Nerd60?

    The Nerd programming tool (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/110-nerdy-gui.html) seems pretty easy. Looks like EasyAVR.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:27:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:22:54
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:19:37
    Is there an easy way to setup Space FN on a GON Nerd60?

    The Nerd programming tool (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/110-nerdy-gui.html) seems pretty easy. Looks like EasyAVR.

    Don't think you can SpaceFN on the default firmware you'll have to do the irreversible process of converting it to TMK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:31:29
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:27:13
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:22:54
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:19:37
    Is there an easy way to setup Space FN on a GON Nerd60?

    The Nerd programming tool (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/110-nerdy-gui.html) seems pretty easy. Looks like EasyAVR.

    Don't think you can SpaceFN on the default firmware you'll have to do the irreversible process of converting it to TMK.

    The NerdGUI is extremely easy to use; however, it does not have any resource to setup a key with a combination of FN plus other function with a delay in between to allow Space FN actuation key. I wonder what I may gain converting a Nerd into TMK and what I would lost.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MOZ on Wed, 06 July 2016, 13:56:07
    There's not much to lose IMO. Converting it will allow you to use either Easy AVR or TMK/QMK. One is extremely easy to use and doesn't require you to compile anything, and with the latest version, no need to use FLIP separately, you can upload the firmware directly from within Easy AVR or you can use TMK/QMK which is super flexible and allows you to do pretty much whatever you want, but you have to setup the AVR toolchain.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 06 July 2016, 14:17:18
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 06 July 2016, 07:43:49
    Quote from: Brammm87 on Wed, 06 July 2016, 03:03:32
    Anyone if you can buy switch top removal tools in Europe (like these: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1363)? I would buy em off mk.com, but the shipping is ridiculous...
    I think they can probably ship cheaper if you contact them and ask.

    If they can't I'm sure I could proxy some for you.
    I've contacted them and bought 20 :p Will be selling them here once I get them :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 16:55:08
    I have some blue alps that aren't working. Can I replace their leafs with either Matias QC or dampened cream alps? (Without changing the feel)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: emdude on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:08:51
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 16:55:08
    I have some blue alps that aren't working. Can I replace their leafs with either Matias QC or dampened cream alps? (Without changing the feel)

    Could you elaborate on how they aren't working?  Do you mean the click leaf or the switchplate?  Regardless, short answer is no. 

    EDIT: Well, if it's the switchplate that's damaged, switching it out with one from a cream damped Alps switch will work, but I imagine it will affect the feel/sound.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:15:24
    Quote from: emdude on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:08:51
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 16:55:08
    I have some blue alps that aren't working. Can I replace their leafs with either Matias QC or dampened cream alps? (Without changing the feel)

    Could you elaborate on how they aren't working?  Do you mean the click leaf or the switchplate?  Regardless, short answer is no.
    I mean they don't register a key press and the leaf.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: emdude on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:23:10
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:15:24
    Quote from: emdude on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:08:51
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 16:55:08
    I have some blue alps that aren't working. Can I replace their leafs with either Matias QC or dampened cream alps? (Without changing the feel)

    Could you elaborate on how they aren't working?  Do you mean the click leaf or the switchplate?  Regardless, short answer is no.
    I mean they don't register a key press and the leaf.

    Ah, well, I'm pretty certain that the leaf has no bearing on whether the switch works (you can remove it outright to make the switch linear, after all), so it might be an issue with the switchplate or how the switch has been soldered (if you're testing it on an actual keyboard).

    The leaves from the cream damped Alps and Matias QC are of the tactile kind, so those won't work.  You'll want to get a leaf from a clicky SKCM, preferably another blue Alps switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:28:14
    Ah. So maybe I can desolder the switch, and replace the black plastic part and the 'switch plate' (Assuming that's the other metallic part that sits in the switch)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:33:02
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:28:14
    Ah. So maybe I can desolder the switch, and replace the black plastic part and the 'switch plate' (Assuming that's the other metallic part that sits in the switch)

    If you do decide to open the switch up be careful, they're called complicated Alps (https://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Alps.tw_Type_BA1_--_Alps_blue_complicated.jpg) for a reason. I'd check to see if the solder joint is good. If not, take it apart carefully and soak it in isopropyl. Hopefully it's just dirt and grime making it feel weird and not say a bent click leaf.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:36:22
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:33:02
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 17:28:14
    Ah. So maybe I can desolder the switch, and replace the black plastic part and the 'switch plate' (Assuming that's the other metallic part that sits in the switch)

    If you do decide to open the switch up be careful, they're called complicated Alps (https://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Alps.tw_Type_BA1_--_Alps_blue_complicated.jpg) for a reason. I'd check to see if the solder joint is good. If not, take it apart carefully and soak it in isopropyl. Hopefully it's just dirt and grime making it feel weird and not say a bent click leaf.
    I have already taken some apart, to much frustration! (I have checked with tweezers, touching the solder causes the switch to register)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 18:07:32
    Working switchplate:
    (http://i.imgur.com/7osyGb8.png)

    Non working:
    (http://i.imgur.com/Hm773nv.png)

    Can't tell if the working one is protruding inwards more?

    Is the switch base the same for all alps? If so I can just de-solder these and replace them with some damped alps bases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 July 2016, 18:08:33
    Quote from: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 18:07:32
    Working switchplate:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/7osyGb8.png)


    Non working:
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Hm773nv.png)


    Can't tell if the working one is protruding inwards more?

    Is the switch base the same for all alps? If so I can just de-solder these and replace them with some damped alps bases.

    I don't see anything that would lead me to believe that the switch isn't working. And yes like Cherry MX, the bases are the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 06 July 2016, 18:47:35
    Quote from: MOZ on Wed, 06 July 2016, 13:56:07
    There's not much to lose IMO. Converting it will allow you to use either Easy AVR or TMK/QMK. One is extremely easy to use and doesn't require you to compile anything, and with the latest version, no need to use FLIP separately, you can upload the firmware directly from within Easy AVR or you can use TMK/QMK which is super flexible and allows you to do pretty much whatever you want, but you have to setup the AVR toolchain.

    The warning on bricking the Nerd does not sound encouraging, though, I'd better live with TouchCursor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CD-ROMantic on Thu, 07 July 2016, 17:26:31
    I hope this is the correct place to ask, I didn't see my exact question answered in the OP so here goes-
    So I recently picked up one of those zhuque+ hot swappable keyboards, because I wanted to check out various keyswitches that weren't my standard Cherry Reds. While I was putting my Gateron Whites in I noticed something- the stabilizers that it has are weird. They're not the Cherry stabs that I've seen in my other two keyboards... taking my shift key from my K65 it fits fine (but doesn't offer as much stability). So my question is- can I remove the stabs in this thing and replace them with Cherry stabs? I'd rather know before I go dumping any money into parts.
    (http://i.imgur.com/aWagbad.jpg) this is the stabilizer in question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 07 July 2016, 17:57:10
    Quote from: CD-ROMantic on Thu, 07 July 2016, 17:26:31
    I hope this is the correct place to ask, I didn't see my exact question answered in the OP so here goes-
    So I recently picked up one of those zhuque+ hot swappable keyboards, because I wanted to check out various keyswitches that weren't my standard Cherry Reds. While I was putting my Gateron Whites in I noticed something- the stabilizers that it has are weird. They're not the Cherry stabs that I've seen in my other two keyboards... taking my shift key from my K65 it fits fine (but doesn't offer as much stability). So my question is- can I remove the stabs in this thing and replace them with Cherry stabs? I'd rather know before I go dumping any money into parts.
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/aWagbad.jpg)
    this is the stabilizer in question.

    If it has dip sockets, which is what how swappable means, you could get all the switches off, separate the plate from the PCB and check if an standard Cherry stab fits on the PCB and though the plate, the second seems feasible, but the PCB should have the appropriated holes to allow the plastic bases of the stabs to fit in.

    Edit: You may also try to fit some Cherry plate mounted stabs instead, the notches seems to be close in size to plate mounted Cherry stabs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 08 July 2016, 04:38:16
    Yeah, those plate stabs look like they are plug-in-replaceable with Cherry plate ones. But why would anyone put WORSE plate stabs in? Patent infringement on the Cherry stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:44:55
    Has anyone used the zinc modifiers from Massdrop/zinc keys in general? What weight is the minimum you would recommend using them on?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:46:12
    Quote from: katushkin on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:44:55
    Has anyone used the zinc modifiers from Massdrop/zinc keys in general? What weight is the minimum you would recommend using them on?

    They're kinda heavy so I'd go with like 67g minimum I think. Also they're rather cold to the touch and take a while to warm up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:52:29
    Is there any reference that reports on how Gateron greens compare to stock Cherry clears, greens and ergo-clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:19:51
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:52:29
    Is there any reference that reports on how Gateron greens compare to stock Cherry clears, greens and ergo-clears?

    KeyChatter (https://www.keychatter.com/2016/02/09/whats-clacking-new-gateron-green-switches-on-massdrop-jukebox-nearing-completion-for-round-2-and-more/) thinks they're the Gateron version of Cherry MX Greens. So they wouldn't feel like Clears/Ergo-Clears since the comparison implies that they're clicky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:23:47
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:19:51
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:52:29
    Is there any reference that reports on how Gateron greens compare to stock Cherry clears, greens and ergo-clears?

    KeyChatter (https://www.keychatter.com/2016/02/09/whats-clacking-new-gateron-green-switches-on-massdrop-jukebox-nearing-completion-for-round-2-and-more/) thinks they're the Gateron version of Cherry MX Greens. So they wouldn't feel like Clears/Ergo-Clears since the comparison implies that they're clicky.

    That is a good starting point; but, then, what do you think that, it is the Gateron's stem closer to Cherry's clear one? Not including Zealios, that I think now are a bit over-rated and over-priced.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:39:05
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:23:47
    That is a good starting point; but, then, what do you think that, it is the Gateron's stem closer to Cherry's clear one? Not including Zealios, that I think now are a bit over-rated and over-priced.

    I don't know what you mean by being closer to Clear. I will say I prefer Gaterons to Cherry. However, the Gateron Browns don't feel enough like Cherry MX Clears. I like the Zealios as they feel like Ergo-Clears without the extra hassle but they are really pricey.

    I've personally written two reviews on Gateron switches: Zealio vs Cherry Clear (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.0) and Blacks (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0). I think Gaterons are cheap enough that it's pretty easy to get a hold of some and try them for yourself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:42:06
    Yeah, I wish zealios was at that price...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:16:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:39:05
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:23:47
    That is a good starting point; but, then, what do you think that, it is the Gateron's stem closer to Cherry's clear one? Not including Zealios, that I think now are a bit over-rated and over-priced.

    I don't know what you mean by being closer to Clear. I will say I prefer Gaterons to Cherry. However, the Gateron Browns don't feel enough like Cherry MX Clears. I like the Zealios as they feel like Ergo-Clears without the extra hassle but they are really pricey.

    I've personally written two reviews on Gateron switches: Zealio vs Cherry Clear (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.0) and Blacks (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0). I think Gaterons are cheap enough that it's pretty easy to get a hold of some and try them for yourself.

    I have read your reviews previously; actually, that was the main reason I bought R1 Zealios; however, my experience differ from yours; because, I found the Zealios to feel quite different to Ergo Clears. I am typing right now on my GON with Zealios that I use at work, and I am missing my GON with Ergo clears that is at home, but I do not want to commute with the last from home to work and back, every day. That is why I wonder if the new Green Gateron come closer to Clears; but, as you said, they may not at all, meaning that there is no replacement for Ergo clears, at least, for my personal taste.

    The two keyboards are very close to each other, both are plate mounted, both are based on a GON Nerd60 and have OG Cherry sets pretty much of the same age, ~ early 90s, they even have both Gateron's switch translucent PCB mounted bottoms with Gateron's clear tops, same module gold springs, the only difference being the stems, factory Zealios and authentic Cherry clear stems inside Gateron housings, but the feeling is noticeable different, the Ergo are snappy, firm and feel a bit heavier, while the Zealios feel mushier, wobblier and lighter.

    Thank you very much for the information and for keeping this nice thread running.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:12:14
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:46:12
    Quote from: katushkin on Fri, 08 July 2016, 09:44:55
    Has anyone used the zinc modifiers from Massdrop/zinc keys in general? What weight is the minimum you would recommend using them on?

    They're kinda heavy so I'd go with like 67g minimum I think. Also they're rather cold to the touch and take a while to warm up.

    Damn, OK. No good weight then :( I was hoping to put them on regular Ergo clears, but oh well...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 09 July 2016, 01:17:55
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:16:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:39:05
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:23:47
    That is a good starting point; but, then, what do you think that, it is the Gateron's stem closer to Cherry's clear one? Not including Zealios, that I think now are a bit over-rated and over-priced.

    I don't know what you mean by being closer to Clear. I will say I prefer Gaterons to Cherry. However, the Gateron Browns don't feel enough like Cherry MX Clears. I like the Zealios as they feel like Ergo-Clears without the extra hassle but they are really pricey.

    I've personally written two reviews on Gateron switches: Zealio vs Cherry Clear (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.0) and Blacks (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0). I think Gaterons are cheap enough that it's pretty easy to get a hold of some and try them for yourself.

    I have read your reviews previously; actually, that was the main reason I bought R1 Zealios; however, my experience differ from yours; because, I found the Zealios to feel quite different to Ergo Clears. I am typing right now on my GON with Zealios that I use at work, and I am missing my GON with Ergo clears that is at home, but I do not want to commute with the last from home to work and back, every day. That is why I wonder if the new Green Gateron come closer to Clears; but, as you said, they may not at all, meaning that there is no replacement for Ergo clears, at least, for my personal taste.

    The two keyboards are very close to each other, both are plate mounted, both are based on a GON Nerd60 and have OG Cherry sets pretty much of the same age, ~ early 90s, they even have both Gateron's switch translucent PCB mounted bottoms with Gateron's clear tops, same module gold springs, the only difference being the stems, factory Zealios and authentic Cherry clear stems inside Gateron housings, but the feeling is noticeable different, the Ergo are snappy, firm and feel a bit heavier, while the Zealios feel mushier, wobblier and lighter.

    Thank you very much for the information and for keeping this nice thread running.

    There literally cannot be a 1:1 gateron to cherry clear because the bottom housing/leaf is different.

    Put a cherry clear stem in a gateron bottom housing and solder it. The actuation will be completely messed up. I can't speak for zeal's switches, maybe it's corrected or maybe it's just a work around.

    Ergo clear 4 lyf
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 09 July 2016, 17:33:11
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 09 July 2016, 01:17:55
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:16:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:39:05
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:23:47
    That is a good starting point; but, then, what do you think that, it is the Gateron's stem closer to Cherry's clear one? Not including Zealios, that I think now are a bit over-rated and over-priced.

    I don't know what you mean by being closer to Clear. I will say I prefer Gaterons to Cherry. However, the Gateron Browns don't feel enough like Cherry MX Clears. I like the Zealios as they feel like Ergo-Clears without the extra hassle but they are really pricey.

    I've personally written two reviews on Gateron switches: Zealio vs Cherry Clear (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.0) and Blacks (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0). I think Gaterons are cheap enough that it's pretty easy to get a hold of some and try them for yourself.

    I have read your reviews previously; actually, that was the main reason I bought R1 Zealios; however, my experience differ from yours; because, I found the Zealios to feel quite different to Ergo Clears. I am typing right now on my GON with Zealios that I use at work, and I am missing my GON with Ergo clears that is at home, but I do not want to commute with the last from home to work and back, every day. That is why I wonder if the new Green Gateron come closer to Clears; but, as you said, they may not at all, meaning that there is no replacement for Ergo clears, at least, for my personal taste.

    The two keyboards are very close to each other, both are plate mounted, both are based on a GON Nerd60 and have OG Cherry sets pretty much of the same age, ~ early 90s, they even have both Gateron's switch translucent PCB mounted bottoms with Gateron's clear tops, same module gold springs, the only difference being the stems, factory Zealios and authentic Cherry clear stems inside Gateron housings, but the feeling is noticeable different, the Ergo are snappy, firm and feel a bit heavier, while the Zealios feel mushier, wobblier and lighter.

    Thank you very much for the information and for keeping this nice thread running.

    There literally cannot be a 1:1 gateron to cherry clear because the bottom housing/leaf is different.

    Put a cherry clear stem in a gateron bottom housing and solder it. The actuation will be completely messed up. I can't speak for zeal's switches, maybe it's corrected or maybe it's just a work around.

    Ergo clear 4 lyf

    Just for the record, I am typing on clear Cherry stems installed inside Gateron bottoms and they feel great, they do not show any alteration in their actuation point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 09 July 2016, 20:45:07
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 09 July 2016, 01:17:55
    Ergo clear 4 lyf

    (http://i.giphy.com/U1XhGr8CWqvVC.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 09 July 2016, 23:22:38


    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 09 July 2016, 17:33:11
    Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 09 July 2016, 01:17:55
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:16:57
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:39:05
    Quote from: ideus on Fri, 08 July 2016, 10:23:47
    That is a good starting point; but, then, what do you think that, it is the Gateron's stem closer to Cherry's clear one? Not including Zealios, that I think now are a bit over-rated and over-priced.

    I don't know what you mean by being closer to Clear. I will say I prefer Gaterons to Cherry. However, the Gateron Browns don't feel enough like Cherry MX Clears. I like the Zealios as they feel like Ergo-Clears without the extra hassle but they are really pricey.

    I've personally written two reviews on Gateron switches: Zealio vs Cherry Clear (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.0) and Blacks (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0). I think Gaterons are cheap enough that it's pretty easy to get a hold of some and try them for yourself.

    I have read your reviews previously; actually, that was the main reason I bought R1 Zealios; however, my experience differ from yours; because, I found the Zealios to feel quite different to Ergo Clears. I am typing right now on my GON with Zealios that I use at work, and I am missing my GON with Ergo clears that is at home, but I do not want to commute with the last from home to work and back, every day. That is why I wonder if the new Green Gateron come closer to Clears; but, as you said, they may not at all, meaning that there is no replacement for Ergo clears, at least, for my personal taste.

    The two keyboards are very close to each other, both are plate mounted, both are based on a GON Nerd60 and have OG Cherry sets pretty much of the same age, ~ early 90s, they even have both Gateron's switch translucent PCB mounted bottoms with Gateron's clear tops, same module gold springs, the only difference being the stems, factory Zealios and authentic Cherry clear stems inside Gateron housings, but the feeling is noticeable different, the Ergo are snappy, firm and feel a bit heavier, while the Zealios feel mushier, wobblier and lighter.

    Thank you very much for the information and for keeping this nice thread running.

    There literally cannot be a 1:1 gateron to cherry clear because the bottom housing/leaf is different.

    Put a cherry clear stem in a gateron bottom housing and solder it. The actuation will be completely messed up. I can't speak for zeal's switches, maybe it's corrected or maybe it's just a work around.

    Ergo clear 4 lyf

    Just for the record, I am typing on clear Cherry stems installed inside Gateron bottoms and they feel great, they do not show any alteration in their actuation point.

    Which gateron bottoms are you using?

    When I put cherry mx clear stems in milky gateron bottoms some worked and some didn't they were unusable. I read others have had the same experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Celcius on Sun, 10 July 2016, 07:45:36
    I ended up getting a ducky one but could not stand the way the stabilized keys felt and sounded so returned it. I may just get another corsair k70 instead (but the newer rgb version this time).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 13 July 2016, 04:30:40
    Have there been any development on the custom keyboards/PCBs with RGB in-switch lighting support (i.e like Cherry's MX RGB switches)?

    Are the  Input Club's K-Type (https://input.club/k-type) is the only such keyboard on the horizon?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 July 2016, 09:21:32
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 13 July 2016, 04:30:40
    Have there been any development on the custom keyboards/PCBs with RGB in-switch lighting support (i.e like Cherry's MX RGB switches)?

    Are the  Input Club's K-Type (https://input.club/k-type) is the only such keyboard on the horizon?

    I thought Ducky had an RGB board out right now. And I also thought that GMK's new keyboard supported it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 13 July 2016, 09:30:58
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 July 2016, 09:21:32
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 13 July 2016, 04:30:40
    Have there been any development on the custom keyboards/PCBs with RGB in-switch lighting support (i.e like Cherry's MX RGB switches)?

    Are the  Input Club's K-Type (https://input.club/k-type) is the only such keyboard on the horizon?

    I thought Ducky had an RGB board out right now. And I also thought that GMK's new keyboard supported it.

    I meant the customs. The Koreans, Chinese, other Asian or Western keyboards. Need a specially designed PCB to actually support full RGB in-switch lightning.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 13 July 2016, 09:31:58
    Are there chips available for that?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 13 July 2016, 13:56:47
    I'm guessing yeS? How else regular RGB keyboards and K-Type are functioning? From what i've been told the hardest part about designing keyboard with RGB in-switch lightning is actually that you need to design the PCB from scratch with enough traces for each switch's LED with all other electronics in mind.

    So i'm guessing there's still nothing out there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 13 July 2016, 14:03:00
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 July 2016, 09:21:32
    And I also thought that GMK's new keyboard supported it.

    Are you referring to the uniqey board? It doesn't have any backlighting options looking at the order page.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 13 July 2016, 15:09:48
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Wed, 13 July 2016, 13:56:47
    I'm guessing yeS? How else regular RGB keyboards and K-Type are functioning? From what i've been told the hardest part about designing keyboard with RGB in-switch lightning is actually that you need to design the PCB from scratch with enough traces for each switch's LED with all other electronics in mind.

    So i'm guessing there's still nothing out there.

    What I meant was "are there chips available for cheap?"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Fri, 15 July 2016, 15:31:42
    Has GMK done a white on red modifier set? Looking for some red mods but can only find the sp red alert ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 July 2016, 15:34:05
    Quote from: Pemdas on Fri, 15 July 2016, 15:31:42
    Has GMK done a white on red modifier set? Looking for some red mods but can only find the sp red alert ones.

    http://www.kbdist.com/ceresia?mc_cid=e4375482d5&mc_eid=e0614fdb1f
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Pemdas on Fri, 15 July 2016, 15:36:19
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 July 2016, 15:34:05
    Quote from: Pemdas on Fri, 15 July 2016, 15:31:42
    Has GMK done a white on red modifier set? Looking for some red mods but can only find the sp red alert ones.

    http://www.kbdist.com/ceresia?mc_cid=e4375482d5&mc_eid=e0614fdb1f


    Wow this is perfect :)) Thanks for the link!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Aliens on Fri, 15 July 2016, 22:10:51
    Is there much difference between the Smart68 and the Red Scarf 68? How hard is it to get a hold of the RS68? Is there an easier/cheaper way to get a programmable keyboard in that layout? I assume that custom PCB and plates would be more expensive than an established board. I want Zealio 65s, I like the rimless pok3r style and I would love Rgb LEDs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 16 July 2016, 06:54:29
    So here's a new one! I have an Alps64 board which used to work (as far as I remember), but I put it away because I needed one fewer keyboard than previously. Now that I've picked it back up, it has this kind of odd problem:

    It starts out in layer 1 instead of 0! If I have FN keys available in layer1, they work fine, so I can access layer 2 and so on, and probably even layer 0, though I haven't tried making a new keymap just to test that.

    So now I'm really confused. I've tried plain.c from TMK and my own keymap, and both start up in layer1.

    I supposed I can just push all layers up one number and see if that works, but this is still really weird!!!

    Cross-posting to Alps64 thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gh_pp on Wed, 20 July 2016, 17:55:41
    Is there any difference between the leopold FC750 vs FC750R ? (I tried google first )

    For instance FC750 is only $114 vs FC750R is $184 on ebay.

    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=171

    On leopold's website I didn't even see the mention of FC750

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 20 July 2016, 17:58:27
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 15 July 2016, 15:34:05
    Quote from: Pemdas on Fri, 15 July 2016, 15:31:42
    Has GMK done a white on red modifier set? Looking for some red mods but can only find the sp red alert ones.

    http://www.kbdist.com/ceresia?mc_cid=e4375482d5&mc_eid=e0614fdb1f (http://www.kbdist.com/ceresia?mc_cid=e4375482d5&mc_eid=e0614fdb1f)

    $75 USD? Well, you should invest thirty bucks more for a full set, unless the color be that important for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 20 July 2016, 19:58:04
    Does someone know where 6u wires for Cherry stabs can be sourced?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 22 July 2016, 07:44:19
    Is this possible? If so, it might be my endgame...

    HHKB2 Silent with Hasu controller and SpaceFN, MX sliders and SA keys.

    Seems like it would be possible, but I wonder what topre with SA would feel like, and if the Hasu controller works with silent boards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 22 July 2016, 08:10:37
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 22 July 2016, 07:44:19
    Is this possible? If so, it might be my endgame...

    HHKB2 Silent with Hasu controller and SpaceFN, MX sliders and SA keys.

    Seems like it would be possible, but I wonder what topre with SA would feel like, and if the Hasu controller works with silent boards.

    Should all be possible. So long as you have the correct size caps for whatever SA set you want to put on it.

    Some people think SA is too heavy for topre then others think SA and topre are glorious. Quite a few people have done similar mods here and on r/mk.

    The pro2 and type-s are identical as far as the controller is concerned.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 22 July 2016, 09:14:19
    Excellent, thanks.
    I can see what you mean with the SA weight. I guess I should try it first, if I find a way to do so...
    It's a huge cost for a single keyboard, after all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 July 2016, 09:39:27
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 22 July 2016, 07:44:19
    Is this possible? If so, it might be my endgame...

    HHKB2 Silent with Hasu controller and SpaceFN, MX sliders and SA keys.

    Seems like it would be possible, but I wonder what topre with SA would feel like, and if the Hasu controller works with silent boards.

    Definitely possible. Nothing there would lead me to believe it couldn't work.

    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 20 July 2016, 19:58:04
    Does someone know where 6u wires for Cherry stabs can be sourced?

    IIRC MK.com had accidently ordered a bunch of 6u stabilizers a while back. They might still have them. Otherwise, I'd try and find an old Cherry board with that stabilizer setup as I don't think the other sources will have 6u. I think Mouser had 8u at one point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 22 July 2016, 10:24:04
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 20 July 2016, 19:58:04
    Does someone know where 6u wires for Cherry stabs can be sourced?

    While I was planning to bend some wires myself, Sir Infinity came to the rescue an offered an authentic Cherry 6u wire sample that will make my own bending reliable. In case some one wonders, the DT Wiki has very good information on many of the different space bars and their holding positions, it was what I was planning to use as a reference, but now with the sample it would be far easier.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 22 July 2016, 13:08:19
    What I need to do is rent a Type-S with MX sliders to test the feel...

    Is that something one does? Like if I pay full price to someone, and then when I send it back, they pay me back all minus a fee?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 22 July 2016, 19:04:53
    Is there a Gateron switch tester pack?

    Preferably with Zealios and all the other Gateron's in it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 22 July 2016, 19:49:34
    Quote from: KHAANNN on Fri, 22 July 2016, 19:04:53
    Is there a Gateron switch tester pack?

    Preferably with Zealios and all the other Gateron's in it

    https://shop.clueboard.co/LED-Switch-Tester.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 22 July 2016, 20:00:58
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 22 July 2016, 13:08:19
    What I need to do is rent a Type-S with MX sliders to test the feel...

    Is that something one does? Like if I pay full price to someone, and then when I send it back, they pay me back all minus a fee?

    Is there a publicly advertised service on geekhack like you describe? No. But friends or meetups are a good way to test that kinda stuff out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Chewypost on Sat, 23 July 2016, 01:41:25
    Hey guys, I'm curious as to what's the minimum length required of the SIP socket to reach the pcb. The ones I have are 5mm and I'm unsure if it'll reach and make contact.
    Anyone know if the ones I have will work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nuum on Sat, 23 July 2016, 06:39:49
    Is there a 60% PCB out there that allows for a split spacebar, e.g. 2.75u - 1u - 2,75u or similar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 23 July 2016, 06:54:55
    Quote from: Nuum on Sat, 23 July 2016, 06:39:49
    Is there a 60% PCB out there that allows for a split spacebar, e.g. 2.75u - 1u - 2,75u or similar?
    No.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 July 2016, 13:52:41
    Quote from: Chewypost on Sat, 23 July 2016, 01:41:25
    Hey guys, I'm curious as to what's the minimum length required of the SIP socket to reach the pcb. The ones I have are 5mm and I'm unsure if it'll reach and make contact.
    Anyone know if the ones I have will work?

    I wasn't aware that SIP socket lengths varied to be honest. I think you'll be fine. a quick test would be helpful though. Just throw together a SIP socketed switch and then mount the plate to the PCB with some normal switches. No need to solder. Just see if the SIP sockets legs poke through the PCB holes.

    Quote from: Nuum on Sat, 23 July 2016, 06:39:49
    Is there a 60% PCB out there that allows for a split spacebar, e.g. 2.75u - 1u - 2,75u or similar?

    Not that I'm aware of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Chewypost on Sat, 23 July 2016, 18:24:31
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 23 July 2016, 13:52:41
    Quote from: Chewypost on Sat, 23 July 2016, 01:41:25
    Hey guys, I'm curious as to what's the minimum length required of the SIP socket to reach the pcb. The ones I have are 5mm and I'm unsure if it'll reach and make contact.
    Anyone know if the ones I have will work?

    I wasn't aware that SIP socket lengths varied to be honest. I think you'll be fine. a quick test would be helpful though. Just throw together a SIP socketed switch and then mount the plate to the PCB with some normal switches. No need to solder. Just see if the SIP sockets legs poke through the PCB holes.


    Yeah It's kinda hard to say. The sockets seem to poke about halfway through my Octagon PCB, but it required a bit more force to push through.

    I believe they are the ultra low profile SIP Sockets of this PDF. It measures to about the same specifications of the ultra low profile socket.
    http://www.mill-max.com/assets/pdfs/065.PDF
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 24 July 2016, 02:33:09
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 22 July 2016, 09:14:19
    Excellent, thanks.
    I can see what you mean with the SA weight. I guess I should try it first, if I find a way to do so...
    It's a huge cost for a single keyboard, after all.

    There's a thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83500.0) discussing the merits of using SA keycaps on a Novatouch which, like the HHKB, is 45g.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 24 July 2016, 03:32:29
    Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 24 July 2016, 02:33:09
    There's a thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83500.0) discussing the merits of using SA keycaps on a Novatouch which, like the HHKB, is 45g.
    Thanks, reading that...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:24:58
    Does BSP still do keysets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:32:45
    Quote from: Waateva on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:24:58
    Does BSP still do keysets?
    Pretty sure they do. It wasn't too long ago someone did a custom run. But I remember there being a snafu with that buy. IIRC Sherry from Originative was involved so he might know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 24 July 2016, 10:06:11
    Quote from: Waateva on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:24:58
    Does BSP still do keysets?

    http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=111

    But it says out of stock.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Sun, 24 July 2016, 11:29:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:32:45
    Quote from: Waateva on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:24:58
    Does BSP still do keysets?
    Pretty sure they do. It wasn't too long ago someone did a custom run. But I remember there being a snafu with that buy. IIRC Sherry from Originative was involved so he might know.

    Ah okay, I have a nice set of BSP keycaps but I'm just kinda wondering why they hardly ever considered for running stuff.  Maybe high MOQ or something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 25 July 2016, 17:05:43
    Thinking about a 40% to build, though i won't be able to build it any time soon considering i have classes. I have some in mind, but if there are more out there i'd like to know. Any suggestions?  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 25 July 2016, 17:08:06
    Quote from: Cerasis on Mon, 25 July 2016, 17:05:43
    Thinking about a 40% to build, though i won't be able to build it any time soon considering i have classes. I have some in mind, but if there are more out there i'd like to know. Any suggestions?  :D

    From all the ones I've seen, evangs' minivan 44 is the best one as far as features (and I might be a little biased since I own one). It's supposed to be on massdrop the end of this month.

    JD40 and 45 are more readily available I think? The Atreus is interesting too if you're into the layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 25 July 2016, 17:23:53
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 25 July 2016, 17:08:06
    From all the ones I've seen, evangs' minivan 44 is the best one as far as features (and I might be a little biased since I own one). It's supposed to be on massdrop the end of this month.
    JD40 and 45 are more readily available I think? The Atreus is interesting too if you're into the layout.

    Yeah minivan was the first that came to mind. If its going to be on massdrop i'm probably going to go for that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: potatobot on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:44:36
    Hey guys, just wondering if you know what material the ducky shine case is made of?

    Im planning to repaint mine coz i have spare spray paint from my gunpla hobby.

    Im confused whether to sand and prime the case before doing the actual coat.

    Cheers!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:59:12


    Quote from: potatobot on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:44:36
    Hey guys, just wondering if you know what material the ducky shine case is made of?

    Im planning to repaint mine coz i have spare spray paint from my gunpla hobby.

    Im confused whether to sand and prime the case before doing the actual coat.

    Cheers!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Pretty sure it's ABS but I'm not 100%. But in other case painting walkthroughs I've seen have sanded and primed the cases.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:41:34
    Any other custom ~60%-ish keyboards with hot swapable switch support, besides Smart68 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83442.0)? Like the idea, don't like having to find non-standard keycaps all the time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:47:29
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:41:34
    Any other custom ~60%-ish keyboards with hot swapable switch support, besides Smart68 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83442.0)? Like the idea, don't like having to find non-standard keycaps all the time.

    The 62/60 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81548.msg2188400#msg2188400) is the only other option I'm aware of. But I have serious quality concerns about that board. In general hot-swappable isn't really proven yet and previous tests have yielded poor results.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 26 July 2016, 14:21:58
    is there a general consensus on what layout works well with mixed switches?  Heavier or tactile on modifiers and linear on alpha?  I like seeing different colors when people post their boards with no caps, but I'm not sure *why* they have it that way....
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 26 July 2016, 14:24:19
    Quote from: Cerasis on Mon, 25 July 2016, 17:23:53
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 25 July 2016, 17:08:06
    From all the ones I've seen, evangs' minivan 44 is the best one as far as features (and I might be a little biased since I own one). It's supposed to be on massdrop the end of this month.
    JD40 and 45 are more readily available I think? The Atreus is interesting too if you're into the layout.

    Yeah minivan was the first that came to mind. If its going to be on massdrop i'm probably going to go for that.

    mechanicalkeyboards.com (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com) is carrying the JD45 with both kits and pre built options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 14:24:52
    Quote from: ReverbSlush on Tue, 26 July 2016, 14:21:58
    is there a general consensus on what layout works well with mixed switches?  Heavier or tactile on modifiers and linear on alpha?  I like seeing different colors when people post their boards with no caps, but I'm not sure *why* they have it that way....

    Not really. That's definitely a personal preference thing. Companies who do the mixed switches usually do light switches for the keys they think the pinky and ring finger use more of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 26 July 2016, 14:34:04
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:47:29
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:41:34
    Any other custom ~60%-ish keyboards with hot swapable switch support, besides Smart68 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83442.0)? Like the idea, don't like having to find non-standard keycaps all the time.

    The 62/60 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81548.msg2188400#msg2188400) is the only other option I'm aware of. But I have serious quality concerns about that board. In general hot-swappable isn't really proven yet and previous tests have yielded poor results.

    I see. Well, i'd rather have what Smart68 has to offer than that "HHKB-ish" bottom row and acrylic sandwich case.

    How hard would it be to find fitting PBT dyesub/doubleshots for V2 Layout A (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=83442.0;attach=142307;image) and V2 Layout B (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=83442.0;attach=142309;image)? It's 3x 1.5 mods (that right short shift looks like it's 1.5?) for the former and 5x 1.5 mods/1x 7 spacebar for the latter.

    I'm guessing such keys still aren't that common in sets, especially such as PBT dyesub. Also that Page Up key is gonna be the major profile offender no matter what, since its gonna be in the wrong row...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: brighenne on Tue, 26 July 2016, 15:04:50
    Quote from: Waateva on Sun, 24 July 2016, 11:29:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:32:45
    Quote from: Waateva on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:24:58
    Does BSP still do keysets?
    Pretty sure they do. It wasn't too long ago someone did a custom run. But I remember there being a snafu with that buy. IIRC Sherry from Originative was involved so he might know.

    Ah okay, I have a nice set of BSP keycaps but I'm just kinda wondering why they hardly ever considered for running stuff.  Maybe high MOQ or something?

    Yeah I think BSP MOQ was 400 sets.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Tue, 26 July 2016, 15:08:26
    Quote from: brighenne on Tue, 26 July 2016, 15:04:50
    Quote from: Waateva on Sun, 24 July 2016, 11:29:53
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:32:45
    Quote from: Waateva on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:24:58
    Does BSP still do keysets?
    Pretty sure they do. It wasn't too long ago someone did a custom run. But I remember there being a snafu with that buy. IIRC Sherry from Originative was involved so he might know.

    Ah okay, I have a nice set of BSP keycaps but I'm just kinda wondering why they hardly ever considered for running stuff.  Maybe high MOQ or something?

    Yeah I think BSP MOQ was 400 sets.

    I also saw somewhere else that they apparently don't do spacebars either, so having to source those elsewhere on top of the high MOQ could definitely complicate things .
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: brighenne on Tue, 26 July 2016, 15:13:04
    Yep, no BSP spacebars...I need to get a set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 21:48:14
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 26 July 2016, 14:34:04
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:47:29
    Quote from: BobBobFSGG on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:41:34
    Any other custom ~60%-ish keyboards with hot swapable switch support, besides Smart68 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83442.0)? Like the idea, don't like having to find non-standard keycaps all the time.

    The 62/60 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81548.msg2188400#msg2188400) is the only other option I'm aware of. But I have serious quality concerns about that board. In general hot-swappable isn't really proven yet and previous tests have yielded poor results.

    I see. Well, i'd rather have what Smart68 has to offer than that "HHKB-ish" bottom row and acrylic sandwich case.

    How hard would it be to find fitting PBT dyesub/doubleshots for V2 Layout A (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=83442.0;attach=142307;image) and V2 Layout B (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=83442.0;attach=142309;image)? It's 3x 1.5 mods (that right short shift looks like it's 1.5?) for the former and 5x 1.5 mods/1x 7 spacebar for the latter.

    I'm guessing such keys still aren't that common in sets, especially such as PBT dyesub. Also that Page Up key is gonna be the major profile offender no matter what, since its gonna be in the wrong row...\

    Short right shift is always a bit tricky to find regardless of the material. Everything else should be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rao2100 on Wed, 27 July 2016, 07:06:59
    Hi guys need help. I am using LZS keyboard. I think i activated something and now it types wrong characters.
    A = D
    Esc = \

    Its not windows as I have plugged in a diff keyboard and it works fine.
    I even removed keyboards from device manager and added back again.

    So i gather there must be some shortcut in the LZS that activates this mode. Please help, and let me know where i can post this so i can get the help.

    Thanks again. :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Wed, 27 July 2016, 07:14:34
    if i press it down slowly, my Esc key is sometimes registering multiple times (Cherry MX Red - KBT Pure Pro)
    what could be the cause? wear? dirt?
    i have not spilled any liquid on/in the keyboard and i haven't seen this behavior with any of the other keys

    it's not a huge issue since 1) it's just the Esc key and 2) if i tap it down fast it doesn't happen.
    i'm just curious to what the issue might be and how i could fix it (probably desoldering..?)
    at times it's a bit annoying because it does make the key somewhat unreliable :-/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 July 2016, 07:26:59
    Quote from: Bucake on Wed, 27 July 2016, 07:14:34
    if i press it down slowly, my Esc key is sometimes registering multiple times (Cherry MX Red - KBT Pure Pro)
    what could be the cause? wear? dirt?
    i have not spilled any liquid on/in the keyboard and i haven't seen this behavior with any of the other keys

    it's not a huge issue since 1) it's just the Esc key and 2) if i tap it down fast it doesn't happen.
    i'm just curious to what the issue might be and how i could fix it (probably desoldering..?)
    at times it's a bit annoying because it does make the key somewhat unreliable :-/

    Quote from: rao2100 on Wed, 27 July 2016, 07:06:59
    Hi guys need help. I am using LZS keyboard. I think i activated something and now it types wrong characters.
    A = D
    Esc = \

    Its not windows as I have plugged in a diff keyboard and it works fine.
    I even removed keyboards from device manager and added back again.

    So i gather there must be some shortcut in the LZS that activates this mode. Please help, and let me know where i can post this so i can get the help.

    Thanks again. :'(


    For both these issues, I'd check the soldering with a multimeter to see if the connection is good. If not fix it. I would then try and put something in between the PCB and case to see if that helps. I've had weird issues and chattering be solved by putting drawer liner between the PCB and case. I think it's shorting issues. If those don't work, I'd also try cleaning the switch or replacing the switch. Sometimes switches get dirty or are messed up in some way internally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rao2100 on Wed, 27 July 2016, 07:54:40
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 July 2016, 07:26:59
    Quote from: Bucake on Wed, 27 July 2016, 07:14:34
    if i press it down slowly, my Esc key is sometimes registering multiple times (Cherry MX Red - KBT Pure Pro)
    what could be the cause? wear? dirt?
    i have not spilled any liquid on/in the keyboard and i haven't seen this behavior with any of the other keys

    it's not a huge issue since 1) it's just the Esc key and 2) if i tap it down fast it doesn't happen.
    i'm just curious to what the issue might be and how i could fix it (probably desoldering..?)
    at times it's a bit annoying because it does make the key somewhat unreliable :-/

    Quote from: rao2100 on Wed, 27 July 2016, 07:06:59
    Hi guys need help. I am using LZS keyboard. I think i activated something and now it types wrong characters.
    A = D
    Esc = \

    Its not windows as I have plugged in a diff keyboard and it works fine.
    I even removed keyboards from device manager and added back again.

    So i gather there must be some shortcut in the LZS that activates this mode. Please help, and let me know where i can post this so i can get the help.

    Thanks again. :'(


    For both these issues, I'd check the soldering with a multimeter to see if the connection is good. If not fix it. I would then try and put something in between the PCB and case to see if that helps. I've had weird issues and chattering be solved by putting drawer liner between the PCB and case. I think it's shorting issues. If those don't work, I'd also try cleaning the switch or replacing the switch. Sometimes switches get dirty or are messed up in some way internally.

    Thanks CPT, weirdly enough the right side of the keyboard is registering correctly. Will check out your suggestion. Thanks again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: potatobot on Wed, 27 July 2016, 13:14:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:59:12


    Quote from: potatobot on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:44:36
    Hey guys, just wondering if you know what material the ducky shine case is made of?

    Im planning to repaint mine coz i have spare spray paint from my gunpla hobby.

    Im confused whether to sand and prime the case before doing the actual coat.

    Cheers!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Pretty sure it's ABS but I'm not 100%. But in other case painting walkthroughs I've seen have sanded and primed the cases.


    Thanks for the quick response mate.

    I was also guessing abs, just wasn't a 100% sure it was tho.

    Just a followup, do you think after i sand+prime any spray-paint would stick to the case or should i opt for vinyl?




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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 July 2016, 13:24:12
    Quote from: potatobot on Wed, 27 July 2016, 13:14:12
    More
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:59:12


    Quote from: potatobot on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:44:36
    Hey guys, just wondering if you know what material the ducky shine case is made of?

    Im planning to repaint mine coz i have spare spray paint from my gunpla hobby.

    Im confused whether to sand and prime the case before doing the actual coat.

    Cheers!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Pretty sure it's ABS but I'm not 100%. But in other case painting walkthroughs I've seen have sanded and primed the cases.


    Thanks for the quick response mate.

    I was also guessing abs, just wasn't a 100% sure it was tho.

    Just a followup, do you think after i sand+prime any spray-paint would stick to the case or should i opt for vinyl?




    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Judging from (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=152.0) people who have done it before (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44191.0), I think you'll be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dwarlorf on Sat, 30 July 2016, 14:19:24
    I know my GH60 doesn't have full LED support but I read I can put a few in. Is this correct? If so, is there a maximum number?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 30 July 2016, 15:54:09
    Quote from: Dwarlorf on Sat, 30 July 2016, 14:19:24
    I know my GH60 doesn't have full LED support but I read I can put a few in. Is this correct? If so, is there a maximum number?
    You'll see where they can go by the spots for the resistors on the PCB. You'll need to install those for any LEDs to work.

    Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dwarlorf on Sun, 31 July 2016, 04:52:31
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 30 July 2016, 15:54:09
    Quote from: Dwarlorf on Sat, 30 July 2016, 14:19:24
    I know my GH60 doesn't have full LED support but I read I can put a few in. Is this correct? If so, is there a maximum number?
    You'll see where they can go by the spots for the resistors on the PCB. You'll need to install those for any LEDs to work.

    Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
    Thank you for your reply.

    I take it where it says + and - on the PCB is where the LEDs can go. And the spots where there's two vertical lines and key description is where the transistors go.

    How do I know what transistors to get? Does it depend on the  LEDs I choose or is there anything else I have to look out for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 01 August 2016, 07:09:23
    Looking to replace some Matias switches because they don't treat the caps well. What is the closest alp switch to Zealio 67g

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:35:31
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 01 August 2016, 07:09:23
    Looking to replace some Matias switches because they don't treat the caps well. What is the closest alp switch to Zealio 67g

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

    SKCM Salmon, Orange, Cream, or Brown are all options. I think Orange would be closest. Or maybe Brown.

    Quote from: Dwarlorf on Sun, 31 July 2016, 04:52:31
    More
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 30 July 2016, 15:54:09
    Quote from: Dwarlorf on Sat, 30 July 2016, 14:19:24
    I know my GH60 doesn't have full LED support but I read I can put a few in. Is this correct? If so, is there a maximum number?
    You'll see where they can go by the spots for the resistors on the PCB. You'll need to install those for any LEDs to work.

    Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
    Thank you for your reply.

    I take it where it says + and - on the PCB is where the LEDs can go. And the spots where there's two vertical lines and key description is where the transistors go.

    How do I know what transistors to get? Does it depend on the  LEDs I choose or is there anything else I have to look out for?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50865.10
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:40:44
    Question: Why don't CPTBadass and HoffmanMyster play Civ V with me anymore?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:42:17
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:40:44
    Question: Why don't CPTBadass and HoffmanMyster play Civ V with me anymore?

    We should play again soon! Been busy with IRL stuff. And Hoff ignores me most of the time now sooooo :(.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:54:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:42:17
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:40:44
    Question: Why don't CPTBadass and HoffmanMyster play Civ V with me anymore?

    We should play again soon! Been busy with IRL stuff. And Hoff ignores me most of the time now sooooo :(.

    I know, we gotta get ready for VI in just a couple months!  We can also try to trick Hoff into coming, maybe with promises of vinyl...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Mon, 01 August 2016, 10:08:23
    retrobrighting cherry og doubleshots; how do i do it and will it be safe for the plastic and change how it is supposed to feel?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 August 2016, 10:12:49
    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 01 August 2016, 10:08:23
    retrobrighting cherry og doubleshots; how do i do it and will it be safe for the plastic and change how it is supposed to feel?

    DT has a lot of really good in process pictures of retrobright that come to mind. Here's some links

    https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/retrobright-t8139.html#p167981
    https://deskthority.net/wiki/Retr0bright
    https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/retrobrite-the-yellow-strikes-back-t6084.html

    I believe it is safe and does not change the feeling but I've never tried it. It is a chemical process and I'm not responsible with how things go; good or bad. You'll have to gauge your risk tolerance and decide for yourself. If I had anything yellowed I'd try it but I haven't had that issue yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 01 August 2016, 11:03:22
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:54:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:42:17
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:40:44
    Question: Why don't CPTBadass and HoffmanMyster play Civ V with me anymore?

    We should play again soon! Been busy with IRL stuff. And Hoff ignores me most of the time now sooooo :(.

    I know, we gotta get ready for VI in just a couple months!  We can also try to trick Hoff into coming, maybe with promises of vinyl...

    Message me too when you're playing next!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Waateva on Mon, 01 August 2016, 11:11:11
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 01 August 2016, 11:03:22
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:54:01
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:42:17
    Quote from: Waateva on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:40:44
    Question: Why don't CPTBadass and HoffmanMyster play Civ V with me anymore?

    We should play again soon! Been busy with IRL stuff. And Hoff ignores me most of the time now sooooo :(.

    I know, we gotta get ready for VI in just a couple months!  We can also try to trick Hoff into coming, maybe with promises of vinyl...

    Message me too when you're playing next!

    Will do :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: brighenne on Mon, 01 August 2016, 11:54:05
    Quote from: frosty on Mon, 01 August 2016, 10:08:23
    retrobrighting cherry og doubleshots; how do i do it and will it be safe for the plastic and change how it is supposed to feel?

    Read this thread if you're interested in retrobright. Some really good information.

    https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/retrobrite-the-yellow-strikes-back-t6084.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 02 August 2016, 03:09:06
    In TMK, do you need a separate function to use a lock key to switch layers, or does ACTION_LAYER_MOMENTARY work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:44:33
    As someone who has no experience soldering or building anything electronically is there a good/affordable kit out there to learn how to build boards? I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it, but I don't want to ruin an expensive board.

    Thanks! <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:49:11
    Quote from: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:44:33
    As someone who has no experience soldering or building anything electronically is there a good/affordable kit out there to learn how to build boards? I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it, but I don't want to ruin an expensive board.

    Thanks! <3
    IIRC mkawa had learn to solder kits from a company. Forget what it is. I recommend grabbing some kind of electronic from the thrift store like a VCR, ripping out any pcb you can find, and practice soldering or desoldering on the components.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:02:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:49:11
    Quote from: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:44:33
    As someone who has no experience soldering or building anything electronically is there a good/affordable kit out there to learn how to build boards? I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it, but I don't want to ruin an expensive board.

    Thanks! <3
    IIRC mkawa had learn to solder kits from a company. Forget what it is. I recommend grabbing some kind of electronic from the thrift store like a VCR, ripping out any pcb you can find, and practice soldering or desoldering on the components.
    If I remember correctly, it was an Edsyn CL1481 iron, a DS-017 Soldapullt, some tips for the iron, and solder (maybe on a spool?).

    He still has some of that stuff at geekhackers.org, but I don't know what his stock situation or shipping timelines are.

    You can always call Edsyn directly and order over the phone. They are very friendly and helpful.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:04:31
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:02:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:49:11
    Quote from: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:44:33
    As someone who has no experience soldering or building anything electronically is there a good/affordable kit out there to learn how to build boards? I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it, but I don't want to ruin an expensive board.

    Thanks! <3
    IIRC mkawa had learn to solder kits from a company. Forget what it is. I recommend grabbing some kind of electronic from the thrift store like a VCR, ripping out any pcb you can find, and practice soldering or desoldering on the components.
    If I remember correctly, it was an Edsyn CL1481 iron, a DS-017 Soldapullt, some tips for the iron, and solder (maybe on a spool?).

    He still has some of that stuff at geekhackers.org, but I don't know what his stock situation or shipping timelines are.

    You can always call Edsyn directly and order over the phone. They are very friendly and helpful.

    Right that's the soldering kit he had. But I bought a kit with like a PCB and some components to make a little game and it was advertised as a learn-to-solder kit. I know they sell 'em at Microcenter but they're marketed as DIY toys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:07:21
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 14:54:26
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:49:11
    Quote from: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:44:33
    As someone who has no experience soldering or building anything electronically is there a good/affordable kit out there to learn how to build boards? I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it, but I don't want to ruin an expensive board.

    Thanks! <3
    IIRC mkawa had learn to solder kits from a company. Forget what it is. I recommend grabbing some kind of electronic from the thrift store like a VCR, ripping out any pcb you can find, and practice soldering or desoldering on the components.


    That's actually not a bad idea. I know my dad has some old soldering stuff next time I see him I'll see what I can grab from him. And I know for a fact there's some old VCRs in the basement as well that I can rip apart.


    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:02:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:49:11
    Quote from: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:44:33
    As someone who has no experience soldering or building anything electronically is there a good/affordable kit out there to learn how to build boards? I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it, but I don't want to ruin an expensive board.

    Thanks! <3
    IIRC mkawa had learn to solder kits from a company. Forget what it is. I recommend grabbing some kind of electronic from the thrift store like a VCR, ripping out any pcb you can find, and practice soldering or desoldering on the components.
    If I remember correctly, it was an Edsyn CL1481 iron, a DS-017 Soldapullt, some tips for the iron, and solder (maybe on a spool?).

    He still has some of that stuff at geekhackers.org, but I don't know what his stock situation or shipping timelines are.

    You can always call Edsyn directly and order over the phone. They are very friendly and helpful.

    I'll have to check that out. I'm holding out to see if I can score some old tools from my dad as well.



    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:07:21
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:04:31
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:02:39
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:49:11
    Quote from: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:44:33
    As someone who has no experience soldering or building anything electronically is there a good/affordable kit out there to learn how to build boards? I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it, but I don't want to ruin an expensive board.

    Thanks! <3
    IIRC mkawa had learn to solder kits from a company. Forget what it is. I recommend grabbing some kind of electronic from the thrift store like a VCR, ripping out any pcb you can find, and practice soldering or desoldering on the components.
    If I remember correctly, it was an Edsyn CL1481 iron, a DS-017 Soldapullt, some tips for the iron, and solder (maybe on a spool?).

    He still has some of that stuff at geekhackers.org, but I don't know what his stock situation or shipping timelines are.

    You can always call Edsyn directly and order over the phone. They are very friendly and helpful.

    Right that's the soldering kit he had. But I bought a kit with like a PCB and some components to make a little game and it was advertised as a learn-to-solder kit. I know they sell 'em at Microcenter but they're marketed as DIY toys.

    I was just at micro center last night did see the "learn to solder kit".  I love that store... Bought a teensy hehe

    Awesome! There's a Mircocenter not too far away I'll see what I can find over there this week. Do you know what section they would probably be in?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 15:00:14
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 15:18:34
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 15:00:14
    Quote from: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 14:54:26
    Awesome! There's a Mircocenter not too far away I'll see what I can find over there this week. Do you know what section they would probably be in?

    They were in the electronics section on the wall hanging in the baggies they come in.  They had a lot of microcontrollers, I spotted the teensy while I was leaving and picked it up for future soarer converting :D

    Awesome looks like I will be playing adult legos this weekend.

    Cheers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 02 August 2016, 15:43:54
    And, of course, you should read this:

    http://mightyohm.com/files/soldercomic/FullSolderComic_EN.pdf (http://mightyohm.com/files/soldercomic/FullSolderComic_EN.pdf)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AnTi PRO on Tue, 02 August 2016, 15:56:59
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 02 August 2016, 15:43:54
    And, of course, you should read this:

    http://mightyohm.com/files/soldercomic/FullSolderComic_EN.pdf (http://mightyohm.com/files/soldercomic/FullSolderComic_EN.pdf)


    Haha this is awesome. The lead part cracked me up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 02 August 2016, 16:01:52
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 02 August 2016, 15:43:54
    And, of course, you should read this:

    http://mightyohm.com/files/soldercomic/FullSolderComic_EN.pdf (http://mightyohm.com/files/soldercomic/FullSolderComic_EN.pdf)

    Very nice guide, the author is good at entertaining.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 02 August 2016, 18:53:43
    This question might not have a simple answer but still...

    Today I bought a working Brother AX-400 at a thrift store for $10 and I'd love to use it but I use Dvorak. Does anyone know if they made a Dvorak print wheel for them? A quick google search didn't get me anywhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 August 2016, 08:12:18
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 02 August 2016, 18:53:43
    This question might not have a simple answer but still...

    Today I bought a working Brother AX-400 at a thrift store for $10 and I'd love to use it but I use Dvorak. Does anyone know if they made a Dvorak print wheel for them? A quick google search didn't get me anywhere.

    Dunno but I found the user manual (http://www.manualslib.com/manual/456632/Brother-Ax400.html?page=3#manual). I glanced at the Table of Contents and it doesn't seem like it supports non-QWERTY English layouts. Just different languages.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 03 August 2016, 10:41:32
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 August 2016, 08:12:18
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 02 August 2016, 18:53:43
    This question might not have a simple answer but still...

    Today I bought a working Brother AX-400 at a thrift store for $10 and I'd love to use it but I use Dvorak. Does anyone know if they made a Dvorak print wheel for them? A quick google search didn't get me anywhere.

    Dunno but I found the user manual (http://www.manualslib.com/manual/456632/Brother-Ax400.html?page=3#manual). I glanced at the Table of Contents and it doesn't seem like it supports non-QWERTY English layouts. Just different languages.
    That's what it looked like to me, I think I'll have to modify the printwheel it came with.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bananabooty2409 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 23:47:27
    Hello. Today I got my HHBK pro 2. its is my first topre board but I have owned a few mechanical boards with cherry switches before this. Anyways, I really like it alot and its my favorite keyboard I have used so far but my "1" key for whatever reason feels way lighter and feels much different from the rest of the board which has been throwing me off while gaming. It also lacks the "thump" that the other keys have when they bottom out and is much softer. I removed the keycap to see if there was something jammed under it or something but everything looked normal. anyone know what this could be?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 04 August 2016, 01:22:41
    New or used? If new, return to manufacturer. If used, return to seller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jerue on Fri, 05 August 2016, 00:49:15
    Would I have any issues trying to swap Alps SKCL Greens into a board with Matias switches...without desoldering? The parts seem swappable, just wondering about the switch leaves themselves, if they are removable or would work on a linear switch just fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 August 2016, 06:04:08
    Quote from: jerue on Fri, 05 August 2016, 00:49:15
    Would I have any issues trying to swap Alps SKCL Greens into a board with Matias switches...without desoldering? The parts seem swappable, just wondering about the switch leaves themselves, if they are removable or would work on a linear switch just fine.

    Don't think they're directly swappable. If I understand how the Matias switch construction works, it doesn't account for all the extra parts that Alps SKCL Greens will have. I've never tried it before though so it's worth experimenting with. But it's my understanding that you can only swap complicated Alps with complicated Alps parts and Matias with Matias.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rally Man on Sun, 07 August 2016, 12:59:20
    Does anyone make full size Filco anodized aluminium shells?  I tend to see more TKL shells then full size.  I'd appreciate any help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 07 August 2016, 12:59:59
    Quote from: Rally Man on Sun, 07 August 2016, 12:59:20
    Does anyone make full size Filco anodized aluminium shells?  I tend to see more TKL shells then full size.  I'd appreciate any help.

    There used to be a guillotine case for Filcos but I don't know where to get them.

    (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34407.0;attach=3466;image)

    This is the only aftermarket full size case that existed to my knowledge for filcos.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rally Man on Sun, 07 August 2016, 20:37:28
    Yeah, that's a bit bigger then what I had in mind.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: unoab on Sun, 07 August 2016, 21:03:32
    Quote from: Rally Man on Sun, 07 August 2016, 12:59:20
    Does anyone make full size Filco anodized aluminium shells?  I tend to see more TKL shells then full size.  I'd appreciate any help.

    These ones were posted in another thread where some people were arguing, but do fit what you are looking for as they are for filcos:
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32692295491.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32692295491.html)
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32648390668.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32648390668.html)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: brighenne on Mon, 08 August 2016, 12:39:24
    Dang I didn't know there was a guillotine for filcos. I want that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rally Man on Tue, 09 August 2016, 09:12:34
    Quote from: unoab on Sun, 07 August 2016, 21:03:32
    Quote from: Rally Man on Sun, 07 August 2016, 12:59:20
    Does anyone make full size Filco anodized aluminium shells?  I tend to see more TKL shells then full size.  I'd appreciate any help.

    These ones were posted in another thread where some people were arguing, but do fit what you are looking for as they are for filcos:
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32692295491.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32692295491.html)
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32648390668.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32648390668.html)

    Thanks.  I can't see if they offer different color options instead of just red.  Also not sure about the payment options it listed on those links.

    Edit: Nevermind, It seems like all the payment options weren't listed when viewing on a smartphone.  Also I'm contacting them directly to see if they offer different color options.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: brighenne on Tue, 09 August 2016, 12:00:18
    Quote from: Rally Man on Tue, 09 August 2016, 09:12:34
    Quote from: unoab on Sun, 07 August 2016, 21:03:32
    Quote from: Rally Man on Sun, 07 August 2016, 12:59:20
    Does anyone make full size Filco anodized aluminium shells?  I tend to see more TKL shells then full size.  I'd appreciate any help.

    These ones were posted in another thread where some people were arguing, but do fit what you are looking for as they are for filcos:
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32692295491.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32692295491.html)
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32648390668.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Anodized-Aluminum-Case-Shell-For-Filco-104-Mechanical-Keyboard/32648390668.html)

    Thanks.  I can't see if they offer different color options instead of just red.  Also not sure about the payment options it listed on those links.

    Edit: Nevermind, It seems like all the payment options weren't listed when viewing on a smartphone.  Also I'm contacting them directly to see if they offer different color options.

    There are other color options in the listings for that case in taobao. They also are supposed to come with a case mount mini b adapter and aluminum feet.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BurnMyDread on Thu, 11 August 2016, 18:42:25
    So I assembled my b.mini x2 recently. It's my first board with a 7u spacebar and my first board with cherry stabs. I've noticed that when pressing down on the very ends of the spacebar that the switch doesn't activate due to only one side or the other being pressed down, which sometimes leads to missed spaces while typing. Is this normal for longer spacebars with cherry stabilizers and just something I'll have to adjust for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Thu, 11 August 2016, 18:55:54
    Quote from: BurnMyDread on Thu, 11 August 2016, 18:42:25
    So I assembled my b.mini x2 recently. It's my first board with a 7u spacebar and my first board with cherry stabs. I've noticed that when pressing down on the very ends of the spacebar that the switch doesn't activate due to only one side or the other being pressed down, which sometimes leads to missed spaces while typing. Is this normal for longer spacebars with cherry stabilizers and just something I'll have to adjust for?
    This definitely doesn't sound normal. Could you make a video showing this?

    Sounds like the stabilizer isn't working :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BurnMyDread on Thu, 11 August 2016, 22:42:51
    Quote from: xondat on Thu, 11 August 2016, 18:55:54
    This definitely doesn't sound normal. Could you make a video showing this?

    Sounds like the stabilizer isn't working :-X

    https://vid.me/S1o5

    I made a quick video. You can tell when the switch gets activated by the browser scrolling in the background.

    Edit: I'm using cherry mx clears with clipped stabs FYI.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 12 August 2016, 15:31:11
    Anyone have and tips for PCB mount stabs that come loose when pulling off tight keycaps? Anyone stick anything inside the mounting part to prevent it from detaching from the PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: E3E on Fri, 12 August 2016, 15:34:38
    Quote from: Dreamre on Fri, 12 August 2016, 15:31:11
    Anyone have and tips for PCB mount stabs that come loose when pulling off tight keycaps? Anyone stick anything inside the mounting part to prevent it from detaching from the PCB?

    Toothpicks are one way to do it, to spread the tab wide so it can't pop back out. This won't stop the wire from popping out of place though. I haven't thought of anything for that issue, myself, which is the most frustrating one for me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ntw on Sat, 13 August 2016, 08:02:14
    (http://i.imgur.com/Txt92h5.jpg)

    guys, are the black ones 55g domes?

    harvested it from Sony News Topre NWP-411A
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 13 August 2016, 10:33:30
    Are the Novatouch stems compatible with hypersphere rings?
    Also, have anyone ordered the ANSI set in Europe before? I can only find the ISO set on the european CM store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ntw on Sat, 13 August 2016, 17:04:25
    Quote from: ntw on Sat, 13 August 2016, 08:02:14
    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Txt92h5.jpg)


    guys, are the black ones 55g domes?

    harvested it from Sony News Topre NWP-411A
    answering my own question with answer from Zeal, yes the black ones are 55g domes and the grey ones are the 45g domes

    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 13 August 2016, 10:33:30
    Are the Novatouch stems compatible with hypersphere rings?
    Also, have anyone ordered the ANSI set in Europe before? I can only find the ISO set on the european CM store.
    Novatouch stem has the same diameter as the Topre stem so it fits the hypersphere rings
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dwarlorf on Thu, 18 August 2016, 06:42:15
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:35:31
    Quote from: Dwarlorf on Sun, 31 July 2016, 04:52:31
    More
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Sat, 30 July 2016, 15:54:09
    Quote from: Dwarlorf on Sat, 30 July 2016, 14:19:24
    I know my GH60 doesn't have full LED support but I read I can put a few in. Is this correct? If so, is there a maximum number?
    You'll see where they can go by the spots for the resistors on the PCB. You'll need to install those for any LEDs to work.

    Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

    I take it where it says + and - on the PCB is where the LEDs can go. And the spots where there's two vertical lines and key description is where the transistors go.

    How do I know what transistors to get? Does it depend on the  LEDs I choose or is there anything else I have to look out for?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50865.10

    I got it all working! Thank you for your help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 18 August 2016, 09:53:51
    I've been out of the loop for a few months. Have we got thick Alps caps yet?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 August 2016, 09:54:54
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Thu, 18 August 2016, 09:53:51
    I've been out of the loop for a few months. Have we got thick Alps caps yet?

    New stuff? No. Vintage stuff? Yes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 18 August 2016, 14:23:12
    Is Jukebox still the last SA-set Massdrop had? Been a while, hasn't it? Are they falling out of love with us...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Thu, 18 August 2016, 14:27:24
    Quote from: tofgerl on Thu, 18 August 2016, 14:23:12
    Is Jukebox still the last SA-set Massdrop had? Been a while, hasn't it? Are they falling out of love with us...?
    Chocolatier ended recently.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 18 August 2016, 14:51:49
    Completely overlooked that. Not my thing :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 21 August 2016, 10:33:45
    What approximate temp range do I use on my FX888D for SMD soldering?  I'm trying to add the bluetooth kit to my GON NerD60.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 21 August 2016, 10:48:36
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Sun, 21 August 2016, 10:33:45
    What approximate temp range do I use on my FX888D for SMD soldering?  I'm trying to add the bluetooth kit to my GON NerD60.

    I have been told 300cel.

    I have also seen people suggest going as high as 700.
    they might have been lost and talking Fahrenheit.

    all with leaded

    Id prob go 300-350C

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 21 August 2016, 11:05:28
    Quote from: Moistgun on Sun, 21 August 2016, 10:48:36
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Sun, 21 August 2016, 10:33:45
    What approximate temp range do I use on my FX888D for SMD soldering?  I'm trying to add the bluetooth kit to my GON NerD60.

    I have been told 300cel.

    I have also seen people suggest going as high as 700.
    they might have been lost and talking Fahrenheit.

    all with leaded

    Id prob go 300-350C



    Perfect, thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 21 August 2016, 13:43:56
    I've always used 300C, but I'm told with smaller soldering points higher temperatures can be better, IF you're sure your hands don't shake...

    How much lube should I get for 183 keys? (3x60%)
    And is there an easier way to open switches than with the opening tools from mechanicalkeyboards.com? I always end up almost bending them when trying to open a switch from both sides at the same time, and if I open them one side at the time I end up closing the first side when opening the second - again and again...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 21 August 2016, 14:06:10
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 21 August 2016, 13:43:56
    I've always used 300C, but I'm told with smaller soldering points higher temperatures can be better, IF you're sure your hands don't shake...

    How much lube should I get for 183 keys? (3x60%)
    And is there an easier way to open switches than with the opening tools from mechanicalkeyboards.com? I always end up almost bending them when trying to open a switch from both sides at the same time, and if I open them one side at the time I end up closing the first side when opening the second - again and again...

    Good point on the soldering, shakey hands mean a big mess.

    For the lubing, what kind of switch? linear, tactile, clicky, or topre?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 21 August 2016, 14:08:28
    Zealios. I'm gonna get some in the next buy if the tube I have isn't enough.

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 21 August 2016, 15:10:19
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 21 August 2016, 14:08:28
    Zealios. I'm gonna get some in the next buy if the tube I have isn't enough.

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

    The thicker stuff in my experience goes alot faster, so I would just get 3 vials at least to be safe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 21 August 2016, 16:54:05
    Quote from: Moistgun on Sun, 21 August 2016, 15:10:19
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 21 August 2016, 14:08:28
    Zealios. I'm gonna get some in the next buy if the tube I have isn't enough.

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

    The thicker stuff in my experience goes alot faster, so I would just get 3 vials at least to be safe.
    Better safe than sorry :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 23 August 2016, 04:29:22
    Never thought of this before, but a Q in the pricing thread put it into my mind: After GMK bought the machining for cherry profile keycaps, do Cherry keyboards still use the same caps? Do they buy them from GMK, or did they buy new machines with a different profile?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 24 August 2016, 09:49:26
    Speaking of Cherry keycaps, this is supposedly one, and it certainly has the right profile, but why does it have legs?
    (https://d17oy1vhnax1f7.cloudfront.net/items/1X0Y0b3K1l1S0U0p1p2l/keycap.3z0Y3O0R3d1e.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 August 2016, 09:54:12
    Can you try and use a multi-quote next time instead of triple posting?

    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 24 August 2016, 09:49:26
    Speaking of Cherry keycaps, this is supposedly one, and it certainly has the right profile, but why does it have legs?
    Show Image
    (https://d17oy1vhnax1f7.cloudfront.net/items/1X0Y0b3K1l1S0U0p1p2l/keycap.3z0Y3O0R3d1e.jpg)


    I believe it's for the old style stabilizers.

    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 23 August 2016, 04:29:22
    Never thought of this before, but a Q in the pricing thread put it into my mind: After GMK bought the machining for cherry profile keycaps, do Cherry keyboards still use the same caps? Do they buy them from GMK, or did they buy new machines with a different profile?

    They buy their caps from somewhere else. Not from GMK. The last two boards they came out with, the Cherry 3.0 and 6.0, had Devlin caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 24 August 2016, 09:55:11
    Can I get some of those old style stabilizers anywhere? I assume I can't use them with a plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 24 August 2016, 09:56:12
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 24 August 2016, 09:55:11
    Can I get some of those old style stabilizers anywhere? I assume I can't use them with a plate?

    It's been a while since I took the old boards apart but I think they've got a plate. You can use that one lol. And same with the stabilizers, you can get em from old Cherry boards. Not 100% sure on which models. But there's no new source for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 24 August 2016, 10:13:08
    OH, old Cherry MY stabs! I'm up to speed now...

    More: https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MY#Keycap_compatibility_with_Cherry_MX
    (The link lies, they're not compatible.)

    I think I'll get a set of purple mods from originative and put these on my my keyboard with the purple plate :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Thu, 25 August 2016, 06:13:56
    Those are *new* Cherry MY stabs, not old ones. The old MY stabs are similar to Costar.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 25 August 2016, 06:48:47
    I am down to speed.
    How can I use the mods on a 60% with or without a plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 25 August 2016, 20:26:21
    In which orientation have the Cherry stab inserts* be put into the stabs? (one side has two holes for the stab wire end, the other side has only one hole)

    * With "insert" I'm referring to the black plastic inside the black plastic :-)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: piemancoder on Thu, 25 August 2016, 21:51:30
    Quote from: Eszett on Thu, 25 August 2016, 20:26:21
    In which orientation have the Cherry stab inserts* be put into the stabs? (one side has two holes for the stab wire end, the other side has only one hole)

    * With "insert" I'm referring to the black plastic inside the black plastic :-)


    The one with two holes is the one you put the wire in. You'll see on the thing you put the insert in there's a spot where the wire snaps in, that's where the one with two holes faces
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Thu, 25 August 2016, 22:10:10
    @piemancoder perfect, that's it. Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dr Hwatson on Fri, 26 August 2016, 00:42:36
    Why do all of the TKL cases I see specify that they are not for Ducky boards?

    I have a Ducky Shine 3 TKL and I am going to have to resort to painting the case since all of these nice cases hate my board. Just kinda wanted to know the reason behind this specification.

    Also, did I make the wrong choice in board? I rarely see Ducky boards posted on reddit (I am brand new to GH). I know they are known for their build quality and that was my driving factor at the time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 August 2016, 16:57:44
    Quote from: Dr Hwatson on Fri, 26 August 2016, 00:42:36
    Why do all of the TKL cases I see specify that they are not for Ducky boards?

    I have a Ducky Shine 3 TKL and I am going to have to resort to painting the case since all of these nice cases hate my board. Just kinda wanted to know the reason behind this specification.

    Also, did I make the wrong choice in board? I rarely see Ducky boards posted on reddit (I am brand new to GH). I know they are known for their build quality and that was my driving factor at the time.
    Think they've got a nonstandard dimension compared to many other boards.

    And I think ducky boards are great. Always a solid pickup.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: NewToKeyboards on Mon, 29 August 2016, 10:50:34
    Quick and Simple Question for you all...

    Is the Corsair K70 LUX with Cherry MX Blue switches still using a non-standard bottom row?

    Already found the answer: for those of you who are wondering it seems that they still are and the bottom row is 1.5 1 1.25 6 1.25 1 1 1.5
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 29 August 2016, 13:55:06
    Quote from: aviphysics on Sat, 23 February 2013, 12:17:13
    Is there a way to get translucent on black double shots for a back lit keyboard?

    Yes (http://www.corsair.com/en-us/k70-lux-rgb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-cherry-mx-red-na)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blazzo on Mon, 29 August 2016, 19:33:20
    Possibly a weird question...

    What counts as a 'media key' on a keyboard?

    Obviously track forward/back, volume up down etc.

    But do 'mail', 'home' etc function keys count as 'media keys', or would they be referred to as something else?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 30 August 2016, 03:16:14
    I think of them as media keys, or simply "things I don't want on my keyboard", but I don't know if they're part of any standard. I assume they simply send unused scan codes and the OS knows what to do with them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 30 August 2016, 06:21:16
    Quote from: blazzo on Mon, 29 August 2016, 19:33:20
    Possibly a weird question...

    What counts as a 'media key' on a keyboard?

    Obviously track forward/back, volume up down etc.

    But do 'mail', 'home' etc function keys count as 'media keys', or would they be referred to as something else?

    Special keys? People may have called them media keys in the past, but I think when someone says 'media keys' they're referring to keys that can be used for prerecorded media. I use a few of those special keycodes myself. They seem to be pretty standard for Windows/Linux OS.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blazzo on Wed, 31 August 2016, 18:43:38
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 30 August 2016, 03:16:14
    I think of them as media keys, or simply "things I don't want on my keyboard", but I don't know if they're part of any standard. I assume they simply send unused scan codes and the OS knows what to do with them.

    I'm in the same boat and refer to them as "things I don't want on my keyboard" :D

    Quote from: csmertx on Tue, 30 August 2016, 06:21:16
    I think when someone says 'media keys' they're referring to keys that can be used for prerecorded media.

    That's what I was leaning towards myself. 'Media' does seem to be pretty specific I guess.

    Thanks for the feedback on this question guys, appreciate it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Thu, 01 September 2016, 18:10:58
    What are the thinnest possible Cherry O-rings I could buy? I would like them 1mm or less.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tobsn on Fri, 02 September 2016, 08:12:45
    Trying to build my own keyboard layout atm because I don't like any I found available...
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84301.msg2250651
    http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/ff3374e064770867929c23c6e186fdb2

    Maybe someone can give me advice on the sandwich setup with the Case & Plate builder?
    I have it currently set up like this for lasergist:

    (http://i.imgur.com/1TTXJeK.png)

    I'm going with M2 screws but I'm not sure if the padding (8mm) and edge spacing (7mm) is good...

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Sat, 03 September 2016, 00:37:06
    Has anyone had any experience or have a quick opinion on the idea of dropping Gateron black stems into vintage Cherry housings?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PollandAkuma on Sat, 03 September 2016, 03:36:39
    So... With the influx  ;D  of London mech addicts, when is a meet-up going to happen?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 03 September 2016, 06:51:34
    Quote from: PollandAkuma on Sat, 03 September 2016, 03:36:39
    So... With the influx  ;D  of London mech addicts, when is a meet-up going to happen?
    Summer was going to happen for the UK but then **** hit the fan for bunny so never happened.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 03 September 2016, 06:59:46
    Quote from: PollandAkuma on Sat, 03 September 2016, 03:36:39
    So... With the influx  ;D  of London mech addicts, when is a meet-up going to happen?

    Influx of London mech addicts? Where?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 03 September 2016, 07:07:00
    Quote from: duynguyenle on Sat, 03 September 2016, 06:59:46
    Quote from: PollandAkuma on Sat, 03 September 2016, 03:36:39
    So... With the influx  ;D  of London mech addicts, when is a meet-up going to happen?

    Influx of London mech addicts? Where?

    Just a few new people in the new members forums :)) Whether they are here to stay, we'll see.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PollandAkuma on Sat, 03 September 2016, 14:53:09
    Quote from: xondat on Sat, 03 September 2016, 07:07:00
    Quote from: duynguyenle on Sat, 03 September 2016, 06:59:46
    Quote from: PollandAkuma on Sat, 03 September 2016, 03:36:39
    So... With the influx  ;D  of London mech addicts, when is a meet-up going to happen?

    Influx of London mech addicts? Where?

    Just a few new people in the new members forums :)) Whether they are here to stay, we'll see.

    Might be a good thing if they don't, so no competition iwhen fleabaying  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 03 September 2016, 15:37:36
    Anyone know if winkeyless.kr or gon boards bend at all when typing?  I'm asking since they don't have a steel plate.  I tried an alu plate with my lz rv and I thought it was horrible so I switched to a steel plate. Will winkeyless.kr boards and gon's be the same?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 03 September 2016, 15:45:28
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 03 September 2016, 15:37:36
    Anyone know if winkeyless.kr or gon boards bend at all when typing?  I'm asking since they don't have a steel plate.  I tried an alu plate with my lz rv and I thought it was horrible so I switched to a steel plate. Will winkeyless.kr boards and gon's be the same?

    From my basic understanding both of those suppliers have aluminum plate options. So it will be an aluminum plate on kind of thick acrylic. But, if you're spending that kind of cash on a keyboard what is stopping you from getting a custom steel plate made?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 03 September 2016, 15:58:17
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 03 September 2016, 15:37:36
    Anyone know if winkeyless.kr or gon boards bend at all when typing?  I'm asking since they don't have a steel plate.  I tried an alu plate with my lz rv and I thought it was horrible so I switched to a steel plate. Will winkeyless.kr boards and gon's be the same?
    Neither have steel plates. WKL only has acrylic, and GON has aluminum but he is a scammer so...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 05 September 2016, 06:55:42
    Is the Phantom the only TKL with TMK support? Cause I don't want to build a Phantom :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 05 September 2016, 07:04:06
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 05 September 2016, 06:55:42
    Is the Phantom the only TKL with TMK support? Cause I don't want to build a Phantom :(

    You could slap a controller on to one of these TKL keyboards. No need to build a keyboard if you don't want to. Quickfire XT is not a TKL but I think that's the only one on this list that is not a TKL

    Off the shelf controller list atm http://1upkeyboards.com/index.php?cPath=38 (http://1upkeyboards.com/index.php?cPath=38) All with TMK support

    (I am no way affiliated with 1upkeyboards.com -- they're just awesome)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 05 September 2016, 07:05:07
    Yeah, I know, but in that case I'll order a Hasu USB converter. More flexible. And Novatouch support!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 05 September 2016, 08:05:19
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 05 September 2016, 07:05:07
    Yeah, I know, but in that case I'll order a Hasu USB converter. More flexible. And Novatouch support!

    You already knew the answer before you even asked the question! Look at you ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 05 September 2016, 08:06:18
    No, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing a cheap TKL somewhere with TMK support. That would be far easier :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 05 September 2016, 08:09:24
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 05 September 2016, 08:06:18
    No, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing a cheap TKL somewhere with TMK support. That would be far easier :)

    You knew the answer already--admit it ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 05 September 2016, 08:10:28
    Nope, but I will admit that googling "Tmk tkl keyboard" didn't give any hits other than the coolermaster alt controllers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 05 September 2016, 08:11:30
    Ah, I see
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 05 September 2016, 12:05:20
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 05 September 2016, 13:08:00
    Can't go back? That's weird... Well, GON are really overpriced IMO...
    I put up a wtb on mechmarket earlier today for an ANSI Novatouch. No takers so far.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 September 2016, 07:13:20
    Quote from: PollandAkuma on Sat, 03 September 2016, 03:36:39
    So... With the influx  ;D  of London mech addicts, when is a meet-up going to happen?

    When you organize one and find an actual venue. As previously mentioned, there was talk about a meetup but no concrete plans. Meetups aren't really official things run by geekhack. They're community organized by members of the forum. If you want it done, DIY.

    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Sat, 03 September 2016, 00:37:06
    Has anyone had any experience or have a quick opinion on the idea of dropping Gateron black stems into vintage Cherry housings?

    Buried in my review are my impressions of this swap (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0)

    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 03 September 2016, 15:37:36
    Anyone know if winkeyless.kr or gon boards bend at all when typing?  I'm asking since they don't have a steel plate.  I tried an alu plate with my lz rv and I thought it was horrible so I switched to a steel plate. Will winkeyless.kr boards and gon's be the same?

    Never had this issue when tying on a GON board. It gave more than a steel plate but I wouldn't say bend.

    Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 01 September 2016, 18:10:58
    What are the thinnest possible Cherry O-rings I could buy? I would like them 1mm or less.

    If EK still sells landing pads, that might work well for you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Subbax on Tue, 06 September 2016, 15:00:18
    I have zero experience here so apologies for the [most likely] stupid question!

    I'm looking to make a keyboard from two aluminium plates and 2 acrylic middle pieces to provide the space, seems standard enough.  I've sourced a template, which has screw holes through each piece but I'm unsure how these keyboards are screwed together.  Discounting the fancier feet, most screens I've seen have screws visible from the top so I'd imagine that there's a nut on the bottom and a rubber cover over it?  I've seen Gon's feet but these seem like they'll only screw through the bottom plate, so what's keeping the rest of the 3 layers together?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 06 September 2016, 15:03:19
    Quote from: Subbax on Tue, 06 September 2016, 15:00:18
    I have zero experience here so apologies for the [most likely] stupid question!

    I'm looking to make a keyboard from two aluminium plates and 2 acrylic middle pieces to provide the space, seems standard enough.  I've sourced a template, which has screw holes through each piece but I'm unsure how these keyboards are screwed together.  Discounting the fancier feet, most screens I've seen have screws visible from the top so I'd imagine that there's a nut on the bottom and a rubber cover over it?  I've seen Gon's feet but these seem like they'll only screw through the bottom plate, so what's keeping the rest of the 3 layers together?

    GON uses a straight screw, whereas Winkeyless use rivet nuts.

    (http://i.imgur.com/OK5iwkY.jpg)
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44147

    (http://cfile21.uf.tistory.com/image/2748DF4F56D6407D34B007)
    http://blog.winkeyless.kr/207

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Subbax on Tue, 06 September 2016, 15:15:27
    Ahh, rivet nut makes so much sense now.  Ta!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 06 September 2016, 15:52:44
    Quote from: Subbax on Tue, 06 September 2016, 15:15:27
    Ahh, rivet nut makes so much sense now.  Ta!
    This is what I'm planning on using - https://www.accu.co.uk/en/knurled-flat-rivet-nuts/177622-HRKN-M3-10-A2-BL

    decent place in the UK from my experience :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 07 September 2016, 02:27:34
    do SA keycaps fit on a board with sipsocketed 2x3x4 leds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bakgrund on Fri, 09 September 2016, 15:08:06
    Any decent English reviews of the MOTOSPEED Inflictor CK104 (http://www.banggood.com/MOTOSPEED-Inflictor-CK104-NKRO-RGB-Backlit-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Outemu-Blue-Switch-p-1047759.html) keyboard? Just bought one for 25 bucks  :)

    Just found non-english reviews when I searched.

    Edit: Nevermind, found a decent review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/46jcex/review_motospeed_k84inflictor_ck104_translated/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 10 September 2016, 12:24:50
    Is there any difference in feel between pcb mounted switches mounted into a plate and pcb, and non pcb mounted switches mounted into a plate and pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 10 September 2016, 13:13:54
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Sat, 10 September 2016, 12:24:50
    Is there any difference in feel between pcb mounted switches mounted into a plate and pcb, and non pcb mounted switches mounted into a plate and pcb?
    All the stability is provided by the plate as the PCB mount don't clip into the PCB, so no. Unless it's placebo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CyberPlatypus on Tue, 13 September 2016, 15:06:43
    I just got my my first mech, a Ducky Shine 5 with Cherry MX Blue switches, a couple of days ago. The keyboard is mostly great, except the keys are pretty wobbly. Is that normal? Thanks for any help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 13 September 2016, 15:23:51
    Quote from: CyberPlatypus on Tue, 13 September 2016, 15:06:43
    I just got my my first mech, a Ducky Shine 5 with Cherry MX Blue switches, a couple of days ago. The keyboard is mostly great, except the keys are pretty wobbly. Is that normal? Thanks for any help!
    You mean wobble as in you can move the keycap around a bit on the stem? Pretty normal but it shouldn't be too drastic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 13 September 2016, 16:36:25
    Whenever people talk about making a new SA-like keycap profile, I kind of hope they'll make a spherical fully profiled keycap system with some sort of internal stabilizer so that it would be solid as a rock when put on a MX switch. But I know that's just impossible...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Subbax on Wed, 14 September 2016, 07:55:45
    I've used keyboard-layout-editor and swillkb to sort a pretty standard 65% layout, sandwich style build but I'm not entirely sure if I need to add a few mm of space around the outside of the file I get from swillkb.  I'm assuming if the screws are flush they'll just sneak in underneath the cap but if they're not flush I should add some space?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 September 2016, 08:26:38
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 13 September 2016, 16:36:25
    Whenever people talk about making a new SA-like keycap profile, I kind of hope they'll make a spherical fully profiled keycap system with some sort of internal stabilizer so that it would be solid as a rock when put on a MX switch. But I know that's just impossible...

    Wobble with a switch isn't necessarily a bad thing. If helps with off-centered strikes and having them register when you type. It would feel much more awkward without the wobble. If you've tried Cherry ML, it'd be similar to that. Unfortunately not everyone has proper typing technique (including myself) so having wobble is helpful.

    Quote from: Subbax on Wed, 14 September 2016, 07:55:45
    I've used keyboard-layout-editor and swillkb to sort a pretty standard 65% layout, sandwich style build but I'm not entirely sure if I need to add a few mm of space around the outside of the file I get from swillkb.  I'm assuming if the screws are flush they'll just sneak in underneath the cap but if they're not flush I should add some space?

    Just add a countersink for the screw holes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 14 September 2016, 08:35:25
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 September 2016, 08:26:38
    Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 13 September 2016, 16:36:25
    Whenever people talk about making a new SA-like keycap profile, I kind of hope they'll make a spherical fully profiled keycap system with some sort of internal stabilizer so that it would be solid as a rock when put on a MX switch. But I know that's just impossible...

    Wobble with a switch isn't necessarily a bad thing. If helps with off-centered strikes and having them register when you type. It would feel much more awkward without the wobble. If you've tried Cherry ML, it'd be similar to that. Unfortunately not everyone has proper typing technique (including myself) so having wobble is helpful.

    True enough, but I think you would get used to it, and in fact it might help your technique.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 September 2016, 10:16:30
    Who can I get to repair my GON bluetooth in the US?  The two folks I was looking at are no longer in it.

    More details of my issue in this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84685.msg2262027#msg2262027
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 September 2016, 11:00:50
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 September 2016, 10:16:30
    Who can I get to repair my GON bluetooth in the US?  The two folks I was looking at are no longer in it.

    More details of my issue in this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84685.msg2262027#msg2262027

    If you did the soldering and you suspect it's the solder joint, I'd first try resoldering yourself like was suggested in your post. I'm unaware of any USA based repairpeople or builders right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 September 2016, 12:39:12
    Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 September 2016, 11:00:50
    Quote from: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 September 2016, 10:16:30
    Who can I get to repair my GON bluetooth in the US?  The two folks I was looking at are no longer in it.

    More details of my issue in this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84685.msg2262027#msg2262027

    If you did the soldering and you suspect it's the solder joint, I'd first try resoldering yourself like was suggested in your post. I'm unaware of any USA based repairpeople or builders right now.

    OK thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Deep on Fri, 16 September 2016, 20:34:24
    I like the look of the WhiteFox more, I absolutely love that keyboard and I really don't want to buy it used/prebuilt because I like building keyboards, but I don't know if the RedScarf will be worth it. I wont be getting keycaps since I already have nice thick PBT keycaps. The one thing that bothers me is how you can see the pcb plate gap under the keycaps on the RedScarf. Wanted to know if it will be noticeable.
    ** So at the end I want to see if it will be worth it to wait and maybe get the WhiteFox if it re-releases (or until something nicer comes on) or hop onto this right now since it released.
     

    -Deep.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Deep on Sat, 17 September 2016, 08:25:25

    [/quote]

    Um....that's not necessarily true. I'm not 100% on that LED type but I wouldn't automatically assume it's fine with keyboards. The issue isn't with the switch body if you're using MX, but really more with the caps. Some LEDs are a bit too thick and rub against the thicker caps like GMK or nice PBT caps. I will say if you are into those LEDs, buy a couple first to trial fit before buying 100+.

    Quote from: Deep on Fri, 16 September 2016, 20:34:24
    I like the look of the WhiteFox more, I absolutely love that keyboard and I really don't want to buy it used/prebuilt because I like building keyboards, but I don't know if the RedScarf will be worth it. I wont be getting keycaps since I already have nice thick PBT keycaps. The one thing that bothers me is how you can see the pcb plate gap under the keycaps on the RedScarf. Wanted to know if it will be noticeable.
    ** So at the end I want to see if it will be worth it to wait and maybe get the WhiteFox if it re-releases (or until something nicer comes on) or hop onto this right now since it released.
     

    -Deep.

    I'm not sure what gap you're referring to. And what is your criteria for a keyboard being "worth it"?
    [/quote]


    By being worth it I was trying to figure out if the WhiteFox will release anytime soon and if not would the RedScarf be a good option... or to just forget every thing there and wait for a jchan 65% release?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ArchDill on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:08:47
    Hello, pretty new here.

    I am looking at trading a CM Storm Quickfire TK with Cherry Browns and O-Rings for WoB Dark Lord and/or Evil Silence.

    I'm really not sure if I can post in the classifieds yet. Any advice? Should I just wait until I can?

    Thanks for any help.

    Sincerely, Geekhack Newb.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:10:32
    Quote from: ArchDill on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:08:47
    Hello, pretty new here.

    I am looking at trading a CM Storm Quickfire TK with Cherry Browns and O-Rings for WoB Dark Lord and/or Evil Silence.

    I'm really not sure if I can post in the classifieds yet. Any advice? Should I just wait until I can?

    Thanks for any help.

    Sincerely, Geekhack Newb.

    Hello Friend, you'll need at least 25 posts before you can post in the classifieds :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ArchDill on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:14:02
    Quote from: csmertx on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:10:32
    Quote from: ArchDill on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:08:47
    Hello, pretty new here.

    I am looking at trading a CM Storm Quickfire TK with Cherry Browns and O-Rings for WoB Dark Lord and/or Evil Silence.

    I'm really not sure if I can post in the classifieds yet. Any advice? Should I just wait until I can?

    Thanks for any help.

    Sincerely, Geekhack Newb.

    Hello Friend, you'll need at least 25 posts before you can post in the classifieds :thumb:

    Awesome, thanks so much!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 18 September 2016, 18:51:19
     :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 18 September 2016, 18:59:03
    Quote from: dndliomx on Sun, 18 September 2016, 18:51:19
    Retro DSA  TKL Set what would you value these at? Lightly used.
    Show Image
    (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13638528/Sell/IMG_1404.JPG)


    You are looking for this thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dndlmx on Sun, 18 September 2016, 19:05:52
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 18 September 2016, 18:59:03
    Quote from: dndliomx on Sun, 18 September 2016, 18:51:19
    Retro DSA  TKL Set what would you value these at? Lightly used.
    Show Image
    (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13638528/Sell/IMG_1404.JPG)


    You are looking for this thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0

    So I am...  :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tobsn on Tue, 20 September 2016, 10:39:56
    can I put a RGB LED under each key in a 40% layout and control it via a teensy? thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 September 2016, 15:05:04
    Quote from: tobsn on Tue, 20 September 2016, 10:39:56
    can I put a RGB LED under each key in a 40% layout and control it via a teensy? thanks!

    I believe it's been done before but I'm not 100% sure how it was controlled. This thread seems to think it's not possible (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3z3lsh/help_custom_built_rgb_keyboard/) but I can't say either way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 20 September 2016, 20:05:01
    where the **** do you find 2x3x4mm purple leds

    not magenta I mean like UV/deeper purple

    I know it exists man
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:20:09
    Does someone knows if a G84-4100PPAUS keys are MX compatible and if they are double shots?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:26:36
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:20:09
    Does someone knows if a G84-4100PPAUS keys are MX compatible and if they are double shots?



    Those user cherry ML switches and are not MX compatible. I believe the key printing is pad printing but they may also have a lasered version as well.

    More reading http://bfy.tw/7oWy
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:34:54
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:26:36
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:20:09
    Does someone knows if a G84-4100PPAUS keys are MX compatible and if they are double shots?



    Those user cherry ML switches and are not MX compatible. I believe the key printing is pad printing but they may also have a lasered version as well.

    More reading http://bfy.tw/7oWy (http://bfy.tw/7oWy)

    Wow! It was a nice script, haha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:41:05
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:42:30
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:41:05
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:34:54
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:26:36
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:20:09
    Does someone knows if a G84-4100PPAUS keys are MX compatible and if they are double shots?



    Those user cherry ML switches and are not MX compatible. I believe the key printing is pad printing but they may also have a lasered version as well.

    More reading http://bfy.tw/7oWy (http://bfy.tw/7oWy)

    Wow! It was a nice script, haha.

    i used cherry ml for a bit.  good for typing bad for gaming


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    I was hoping to be able to harvest the keys for my custom, but not luck, they cannot, well, still looking for some OG Cherry Alphas.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OompaLoompa on Wed, 21 September 2016, 17:58:20
    I was wondering if it was possible to replace costar stabilizers with cherry on a filco majestouch 2? If so, plate or pcb? It doesn't look like pcb would work but this is the fist time I've attempted any sort of modifications so I can't really tell just by looking. Thanks in advance
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 21 September 2016, 18:01:01
    Quote from: OompaLoompa on Wed, 21 September 2016, 17:58:20
    I was wondering if it was possible to replace costar stabilizers with cherry on a filco majestouch 2? If so, plate or pcb? It doesn't look like pcb would work but this is the fist time I've attempted any sort of modifications so I can't really tell just by looking. Thanks in advance

    You can put plate mounted cherry stabilizers in a Filco if you buy a universal plate.

    Don't know where you'd get one, I think mechanicalkeyboards.com used to sell them.

    You'd have to desolder every switch and then reassemble using the new plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OompaLoompa on Wed, 21 September 2016, 18:17:10
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 21 September 2016, 18:01:01
    Quote from: OompaLoompa on Wed, 21 September 2016, 17:58:20
    I was wondering if it was possible to replace costar stabilizers with cherry on a filco majestouch 2? If so, plate or pcb? It doesn't look like pcb would work but this is the fist time I've attempted any sort of modifications so I can't really tell just by looking. Thanks in advance

    You can put plate mounted cherry stabilizers in a Filco if you buy a universal plate.

    Don't know where you'd get one, I think mechanicalkeyboards.com used to sell them.

    You'd have to desolder every switch and then reassemble using the new plate.
    that's exactly what I was wondering, thanks. I was already planning on changing the switches to jailhouse blues and wanted to change up the stabilizers while I was at it but don't know if I can afford a new plate atm. It sucks they wont fit in the stock plate but whatevs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Dwarlorf on Fri, 23 September 2016, 06:23:57
    What's the height of (Signature Plastics) G20 keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: antftw1 on Tue, 27 September 2016, 09:34:16
    Is the Magicforce my only option for a 66 or 68 key with black switches and white backlight for under $80?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: skuko on Wed, 28 September 2016, 06:44:34
    Quote from: Dwarlorf on Fri, 23 September 2016, 06:23:57
    What's the height of (Signature Plastics) G20 keycaps?

    i have 2 sets, will measure them for you tonight
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: skuko on Wed, 28 September 2016, 06:45:23
    i have a question - is there an aluminium case that would fit the leopold FC750RT? i want to pimp mine out a bit :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PollandAkuma on Wed, 28 September 2016, 15:30:52
    Question: What are some common Alps board that can be found easily in UK and what switches do they usually have?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Thu, 29 September 2016, 05:15:29
    what's the spacebar size needed for hasu's AEK PCB/FR-4 plate?

    update: 6.5u based on image posted here  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69666.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69666.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yasuo on Thu, 29 September 2016, 19:05:01
    i was just curious what computer used in the Data avatar?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fublamchu on Sat, 01 October 2016, 17:13:07
    Quote from: skuko on Wed, 28 September 2016, 06:45:23
    i have a question - is there an aluminium case that would fit the leopold FC750RT? i want to pimp mine out a bit :)

    No afaik
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 02 October 2016, 10:39:11
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Epixyl on Mon, 03 October 2016, 04:51:29
    Does anyone know if the Red Scarf II+ Ver C. has resistors already soldered on to the PCB? I'm buying LED's and want to make sure everything will work out in the end.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PollandAkuma on Mon, 03 October 2016, 14:10:40
    does anyone bring around their realforces on travels? or do you all go hhkb haha
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 14:12:45
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PollandAkuma on Mon, 03 October 2016, 14:14:46
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 14:12:45
    Quote from: PollandAkuma on Mon, 03 October 2016, 14:10:40
    does anyone bring around their realforces on travels? or do you all go hhkb haha

    it's a little big for that.  you could I guess, but might as well use the laptop keyboard since I think RF isn't that much better..  HHKB feels better but I'd rather use linears

    so for you linears>45g topre> clunky realforce topre?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 14:16:45
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PollandAkuma on Mon, 03 October 2016, 15:52:24
    Thanks. Been thinking about getting HHKB for a while now. A long, long, drooling while  :p
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:51:46
    Has there been any keyboards that used discrete mechanical switches and a curved plate, excluding maltron and I believe the kenesis?   Wondering about standard layouts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:54:10
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:55:36
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:54:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:51:46
    Has there been any keyboards that used discrete mechanical switches and a curved plate, excluding maltron and I believe the kenesis?   Wondering about standard layouts.

    well Model F but not very standard haha.  If you mean curved in more than one direction, I believe those are the only two.  However, maltron has multiple models
    But F doesn't use discrete switches.  Was thinking some sort of standard layout with something like MX, Alps, or even own branded switches, but had a curved plate and uniform profile caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:58:45
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:02:07
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:58:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:55:36
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:54:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:51:46
    Has there been any keyboards that used discrete mechanical switches and a curved plate, excluding maltron and I believe the kenesis?   Wondering about standard layouts.

    well Model F but not very standard haha.  If you mean curved in more than one direction, I believe those are the only two.  However, maltron has multiple models
    But F doesn't use discrete switches.  Was thinking some sort of standard layout with something like MX, Alps, or even own branded switches, but had a curved plate and uniform profile caps.

    oh I see.  misunderstanding.  you could probably model your own board and hand wire it.  Use a vacuum form with thick plastic and mold it against something else and cutout every switch.  Seems like a boat load of work.   I've seen multiple alps board at an angle that makes it appear curved, but it's just a flat plate.

    Think that's something you'lll have to invent.

    There was a sculpted microsoft to MX conversion on here somewhere
    I was looking to do the multiple plate route, just wondering if it had been done with a single plate and curious how the PCB side was handled.  Mostly curious about mass produced versions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:03:28
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:07:51
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:03:28
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:02:07
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:58:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:55:36
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:54:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:51:46
    Has there been any keyboards that used discrete mechanical switches and a curved plate, excluding maltron and I believe the kenesis?   Wondering about standard layouts.

    well Model F but not very standard haha.  If you mean curved in more than one direction, I believe those are the only two.  However, maltron has multiple models
    But F doesn't use discrete switches.  Was thinking some sort of standard layout with something like MX, Alps, or even own branded switches, but had a curved plate and uniform profile caps.

    oh I see.  misunderstanding.  you could probably model your own board and hand wire it.  Use a vacuum form with thick plastic and mold it against something else and cutout every switch.  Seems like a boat load of work.   I've seen multiple alps board at an angle that makes it appear curved, but it's just a flat plate.

    Think that's something you'lll have to invent.

    There was a sculpted microsoft to MX conversion on here somewhere
    I was looking to do the multiple plate route, just wondering if it had been done with a single plate and curious how the PCB side was handled.  Mostly curious about mass produced versions.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/1p1bxVT.jpg)


    They use flexible PCB's it looks like
    Looks expensive to produce in small quantities.  I wonder what is out there for small solder in connectors that allow easy and secure wire connection while being low profile enough for all the columns for a switch matrix.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:13:50
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:15:16
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:13:50
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:07:51
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:03:28
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:02:07
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:58:45
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:55:36
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:54:10
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:51:46
    Has there been any keyboards that used discrete mechanical switches and a curved plate, excluding maltron and I believe the kenesis?   Wondering about standard layouts.

    well Model F but not very standard haha.  If you mean curved in more than one direction, I believe those are the only two.  However, maltron has multiple models
    But F doesn't use discrete switches.  Was thinking some sort of standard layout with something like MX, Alps, or even own branded switches, but had a curved plate and uniform profile caps.

    oh I see.  misunderstanding.  you could probably model your own board and hand wire it.  Use a vacuum form with thick plastic and mold it against something else and cutout every switch.  Seems like a boat load of work.   I've seen multiple alps board at an angle that makes it appear curved, but it's just a flat plate.

    Think that's something you'lll have to invent.

    There was a sculpted microsoft to MX conversion on here somewhere
    I was looking to do the multiple plate route, just wondering if it had been done with a single plate and curious how the PCB side was handled.  Mostly curious about mass produced versions.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/1p1bxVT.jpg)


    They use flexible PCB's it looks like
    Looks expensive to produce in small quantities.  I wonder what is out there for small solder in connectors that allow easy and secure wire connection while being low profile enough for all the columns for a switch matrix.

    there are solderable versions of the thin ribbon cable.  You could make some spacers and use that instead.  sounds like an interesting project
    I was thinking something that would use normal hookup wire to offer flexible layouts with swapping just a single row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:16:22
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:17:22
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:16:22
    Quote from: Melvang on Mon, 03 October 2016, 18:15:16
    <snip>

    Show Image
    (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Computerplatine_Wire-wrap_backplane_detail_Z80_Doppel-Europa-Format_1977.jpg)


    Good ole wire wrapping. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: evilside123 on Fri, 07 October 2016, 04:10:47
    Good day to all of you. I have an old Samsung GJJ4AKEAT-IOIODS Keyboard.
    It has an AT/XT switch. I dont know which is which, can somebody help me with it please?
    Your reply will be much appreciated.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 07 October 2016, 04:59:30
    Quote from: evilside123 on Fri, 07 October 2016, 04:10:47
    Good day to all of you. I have an old Samsung GJJ4AKEAT-IOIODS Keyboard.
    It has an AT/XT switch. I dont know which is which, can somebody help me with it please?
    Your reply will be much appreciated.

    Welcome to Geekhack!

    There's a reference to that keyboard here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30902.0), but doesn't say which way the switch goes.  The OP of that thread was active recently - perhaps you could send them a politely worded PM.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tesyu on Sat, 08 October 2016, 23:23:42
    Is there any standard or popular layout for ergodox keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 09 October 2016, 15:58:38
    Quote from: Tesyu on Sat, 08 October 2016, 23:23:42
    Is there any standard or popular layout for ergodox keyboard?

    I don't think so from what I have seen. It seems to be more of personal preference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Sun, 09 October 2016, 23:13:33
    Does anyone experience the ALT key get stuck in Windows or have a solution for it. Not sure where to post this sort of thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 09 October 2016, 23:18:10
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Subbax on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:29:32
    The teensy 3.2 looks like it comes with a micro usb header on it but most pictures of cases have a mini usb output to allow for fancy cables, etc.  Is this use of micro usb to female mini usb just for aesthetics or is there a specific reason for it?  Or should the teensy come with a mini usb out and I've got the wrong one? o_0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:33:58
    Quote from: Subbax on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:29:32
    The teensy 3.2 looks like it comes with a micro usb header on it but most pictures of cases have a mini usb output to allow for fancy cables, etc.  Is this use of micro usb to female mini usb just for aesthetics or is there a specific reason for it?  Or should the teensy come with a mini usb out and I've got the wrong one? o_0

    Most people use a Teensy 2 with their custom keyboards it has a mini usb.

    You can find a couple threads on the 3.2 below

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84826.0

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83576.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Subbax on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:08:15
    Ah, so I did get an awkward Teensy.  No drama, I'll work around it. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Soundsky on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:27:25
    Is there a mechanical keyboard with scissor switch keycaps? I would really love to have one but since I am new with mechanical keyboards I don't know where to look or what to search for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:31:52
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:45:57
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 09 October 2016, 23:18:10
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Sun, 09 October 2016, 23:13:33
    Does anyone experience the ALT key get stuck in Windows or have a solution for it. Not sure where to post this sort of thing.

    T_T 🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫
    Thanks bud, even after upgrading to Windows 10,  the problem remains.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:52:22
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:45:57
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 09 October 2016, 23:18:10
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Sun, 09 October 2016, 23:13:33
    Does anyone experience the ALT key get stuck in Windows or have a solution for it. Not sure where to post this sort of thing.

    T_T 🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫
    Thanks bud, even after upgrading to Windows 10,  the problem remains.

    Take apart the keyboard yet? I haven't had an issue like that (Win 3.1 - 10, Debian, Mint, etc.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Mon, 10 October 2016, 17:01:19
    It happens with almost every keyboard I own from the PS/2 models to my Alps64 and Model-F XT. I know this isn't a troubleshooting thread, just wanted to know if anyone had a quick solution.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 10 October 2016, 17:07:51
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Mon, 10 October 2016, 17:01:19
    It happens with almost every keyboard I own from the PS/2 models to my Alps64 and Model-F XT. I know this isn't a troubleshooting thread, just wanted to know if anyone had a quick solution.

    Sounds like a deeply rooted problem. :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 10 October 2016, 18:55:48
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Tue, 11 October 2016, 08:40:17
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:31:52
    Quote from: Soundsky on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:27:25
    Is there a mechanical keyboard with scissor switch keycaps? I would really love to have one but since I am new with mechanical keyboards I don't know where to look or what to search for.
    usually those are flat, so you might look into DSA
    More like G20.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Wonko73 on Mon, 17 October 2016, 00:26:08
    Hi,
    is there a chance to get a Pok3er with my green and ISO layout? German Layout or blank PBT would be great...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:59:09
    When a keyboard is described as being "Fully Programmable" does that ordinarily mean that you can assign functionality to key upstrokes as well as downstrokes?
    Always? / Never? / Sometimes?
    Is it firmware-dependant? Which firmwares support it, if any?
    I'm thinking it could be handy for the (Plum/Noppoo) Nano75 layout, where the arrows are sharing switches with the mods.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:45:45
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:59:09
    When a keyboard is described as being "Fully Programmable" does that ordinarily mean that you can assign functionality to key upstrokes as well as downstrokes?
    Always? / Never? / Sometimes?
    Is it firmware-dependant? Which firmwares support it, if any?
    I'm thinking it could be handy for the (Plum/Noppoo) Nano75 layout, where the arrows are sharing switches with the mods.

    I don't think this is possible as most all switches active on the way down and there is no mechanism to activate again on the way back up but I'd love to be wrong. :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 14:56:15
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:45:45
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:59:09
    When a keyboard is described as being "Fully Programmable" does that ordinarily mean that you can assign functionality to key upstrokes as well as downstrokes?
    Always? / Never? / Sometimes?
    Is it firmware-dependant? Which firmwares support it, if any?
    I'm thinking it could be handy for the (Plum/Noppoo) Nano75 layout, where the arrows are sharing switches with the mods.

    I don't think this is possible as most all switches active on the way down and there is no mechanism to activate again on the way back up but I'd love to be wrong. :D

    I'm like 99% sure it's *possible*, because the OS knows about key-up events. If it didn't, how would it know when to stop repeating a key you've been holding down for a while? My question is really whether it's normal for "fully programmable" keebs to support it, or would I have to do some tinkering in TMK code?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 October 2016, 15:05:36
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 14:56:15
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:45:45
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:59:09
    When a keyboard is described as being "Fully Programmable" does that ordinarily mean that you can assign functionality to key upstrokes as well as downstrokes?
    Always? / Never? / Sometimes?
    Is it firmware-dependant? Which firmwares support it, if any?
    I'm thinking it could be handy for the (Plum/Noppoo) Nano75 layout, where the arrows are sharing switches with the mods.

    I don't think this is possible as most all switches active on the way down and there is no mechanism to activate again on the way back up but I'd love to be wrong. :D

    I'm like 99% sure it's *possible*, because the OS knows about key-up events. If it didn't, how would it know when to stop repeating a key you've been holding down for a while? My question is really whether it's normal for "fully programmable" keebs to support it, or would I have to do some tinkering in TMK code?

    So you want key release to both signal a key has been released as well as activate another function at the same time?

    I definitely don't think it is normal as I've never heard of anyone doing it but I've learned never say anything is impossible around here so perhaps someone will chime in with an idea on how to do this or explain how it is indeed impossible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Auxo on Mon, 17 October 2016, 15:55:29
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 14:56:15
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:45:45
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:59:09
    When a keyboard is described as being "Fully Programmable" does that ordinarily mean that you can assign functionality to key upstrokes as well as downstrokes?
    Always? / Never? / Sometimes?
    Is it firmware-dependant? Which firmwares support it, if any?
    I'm thinking it could be handy for the (Plum/Noppoo) Nano75 layout, where the arrows are sharing switches with the mods.

    I don't think this is possible as most all switches active on the way down and there is no mechanism to activate again on the way back up but I'd love to be wrong. :D

    I'm like 99% sure it's *possible*, because the OS knows about key-up events. If it didn't, how would it know when to stop repeating a key you've been holding down for a while? My question is really whether it's normal for "fully programmable" keebs to support it, or would I have to do some tinkering in TMK code?

    I'm not too sure if its recorded as a key-up event, as I imagine it's more probable that it's just detecting that the actuation point isn't being activated anymore. So what you would probably be looking for isn't an up-stroke but rather something for when a key STOPS being pressed... if you understand what I'm talking about anyway
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombimuncha on Wed, 19 October 2016, 15:24:16
    Quote from: CJD_Anthony on Mon, 17 October 2016, 15:55:29
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 14:56:15
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:45:45
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:59:09
    When a keyboard is described as being "Fully Programmable" does that ordinarily mean that you can assign functionality to key upstrokes as well as downstrokes?
    Always? / Never? / Sometimes?
    Is it firmware-dependant? Which firmwares support it, if any?
    I'm thinking it could be handy for the (Plum/Noppoo) Nano75 layout, where the arrows are sharing switches with the mods.

    I don't think this is possible as most all switches active on the way down and there is no mechanism to activate again on the way back up but I'd love to be wrong. :D

    I'm like 99% sure it's *possible*, because the OS knows about key-up events. If it didn't, how would it know when to stop repeating a key you've been holding down for a while? My question is really whether it's normal for "fully programmable" keebs to support it, or would I have to do some tinkering in TMK code?

    I'm not too sure if its recorded as a key-up event, as I imagine it's more probable that it's just detecting that the actuation point isn't being activated anymore. So what you would probably be looking for isn't an up-stroke but rather something for when a key STOPS being pressed... if you understand what I'm talking about anyway

    Found the answer here:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41685.0

    Either AutoHotKey, or some minor tinkering with TMK can do what I want. Meaning I'd need to use AHK to do it with either of those Plum/Noppoo Nano75 keyboards. Or build from scratch and use TMK.
    Thanks lads!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 19 October 2016, 15:38:13
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Wed, 19 October 2016, 15:24:16
    Quote from: CJD_Anthony on Mon, 17 October 2016, 15:55:29
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 14:56:15
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:45:45
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:59:09
    When a keyboard is described as being "Fully Programmable" does that ordinarily mean that you can assign functionality to key upstrokes as well as downstrokes?
    Always? / Never? / Sometimes?
    Is it firmware-dependant? Which firmwares support it, if any?
    I'm thinking it could be handy for the (Plum/Noppoo) Nano75 layout, where the arrows are sharing switches with the mods.

    I don't think this is possible as most all switches active on the way down and there is no mechanism to activate again on the way back up but I'd love to be wrong. :D

    I'm like 99% sure it's *possible*, because the OS knows about key-up events. If it didn't, how would it know when to stop repeating a key you've been holding down for a while? My question is really whether it's normal for "fully programmable" keebs to support it, or would I have to do some tinkering in TMK code?

    I'm not too sure if its recorded as a key-up event, as I imagine it's more probable that it's just detecting that the actuation point isn't being activated anymore. So what you would probably be looking for isn't an up-stroke but rather something for when a key STOPS being pressed... if you understand what I'm talking about anyway

    Found the answer here:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41685.0

    Either AutoHotKey, or some minor tinkering with TMK can do what I want. Meaning I'd need to use AHK to do it with either of those Plum/Noppoo Nano75 keyboards. Or build from scratch and use TMK.
    Thanks lads!

    OH! Holding a key down activates a different event.. like a modifier. Lol, duh. I used a similar method via AHK, and with X, to make my mouse back button act as a middle mouse button. I can see how this could actually bypass the need for a modifier. Being able to scroll with a trackball that has no scroll wheel was pretty cool. Plus middle clicking links in Google. That's gonna be a lot of scripting!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 20 October 2016, 22:43:13
    How much shorter is the TRAVEL distance for Silver MX vs. Red? Physical distance the key moves, not the actuation point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 21 October 2016, 01:57:45
    Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 20 October 2016, 22:43:13
    How much shorter is the TRAVEL distance for Silver MX vs. Red? Physical distance the key moves, not the actuation point.

    I thought it was the same and only actuation was changed
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Sat, 22 October 2016, 19:42:14
    I'm looking to try out one of those BTC Dome With Sliders boards. I found a good deal on Craigslist for a Packard Bell 5130. Does this one use BTC Domes?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Mon, 24 October 2016, 15:26:03
    Quote from: klennkellon on Sat, 22 October 2016, 19:42:14
    I'm looking to try out one of those BTC Dome With Sliders boards. I found a good deal on Craigslist for a Packard Bell 5130. Does this one use BTC Domes?
    Yup. The worst case scenario is that it won't have discrete sliders w/ MX-compatible caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Wed, 26 October 2016, 20:55:11
    Are there any 60% FLAT aluminum cases that are high profile? I am thinking along the lines of a 60% Tex case but not a floating key design.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 October 2016, 22:59:11
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Wed, 26 October 2016, 20:55:11
    Are there any 60% FLAT aluminum cases that are high profile? I am thinking along the lines of a 60% Tex case but not a floating key design.


    I do not recall having seen one like that, someone else may add some light on it, but I'd say that there is no a flat tall sides aluminum case. Maybe the Eagle case is close but it is not flat.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Wed, 26 October 2016, 23:11:58
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 26 October 2016, 22:59:11
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Wed, 26 October 2016, 20:55:11
    Are there any 60% FLAT aluminum cases that are high profile? I am thinking along the lines of a 60% Tex case but not a floating key design.


    I do not recall having seen one like that, someone else may add some light on it, but I'd say that there is no a flat tall sides aluminum case. Maybe the Eagle case is close but it is not flat.

    Best visual aid I could find was the Z-Case 3.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81049.0), just in aluminum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 29 October 2016, 18:52:31
    Where can I get some of those metal PS/2 connectors? I've looked all the usual places (mouser, ebay, amazon, aliexpress, etc) and can't find them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 29 October 2016, 18:55:07
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 29 October 2016, 18:52:31
    Where can I get some of those metal PS/2 connectors? I've looked all the usual places (mouser, ebay, amazon, aliexpress, etc) and can't find them.
    Do you mean the yarbo ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 29 October 2016, 20:24:58
    Quote from: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 29 October 2016, 18:55:07
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 29 October 2016, 18:52:31
    Where can I get some of those metal PS/2 connectors? I've looked all the usual places (mouser, ebay, amazon, aliexpress, etc) and can't find them.
    Do you mean the yarbo ones?

    Hmm, I can't find them on Yarbo's site. I know the Koreans were using them on the PS/2 356 series keyboards, and when I searched I see that paranoid was using them in 2012 on his customer cables. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38068.msg822617#msg822617
    You can see there are two different versions even.

    Anyway I have some IBM SDL cables with damaged AT connectors so I figured I'd recable them to PS/2 and while I'm at it get some better connectors worthy to be put on an IBM and here I am.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 29 October 2016, 20:30:50
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 29 October 2016, 20:24:58
    Quote from: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 29 October 2016, 18:55:07
    Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 29 October 2016, 18:52:31
    Where can I get some of those metal PS/2 connectors? I've looked all the usual places (mouser, ebay, amazon, aliexpress, etc) and can't find them.
    Do you mean the yarbo ones?

    Hmm, I can't find them on Yarbo's site. I know the Koreans were using them on the PS/2 356 series keyboards, and when I searched I see that paranoid was using them in 2012 on his customer cables. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38068.msg822617#msg822617
    You can see there are two different versions even.

    Anyway I have some IBM SDL cables with damaged AT connectors so I figured I'd recable them to PS/2 and while I'm at it get some better connectors worthy to be put on an IBM and here I am.
    I'm not familiar with those ones. I know you can get the yarbo ones on taobao. You still need to get the ps2 inners to go with it though, as it's an audio connector. I think shadoveed may have done a small write up on it, and know hwood made one as well last year. So it may not hurt to look through some of their posts.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 29 October 2016, 20:36:44
    I was wrong with the user. Here's a thread with some info. I haven't checked if links are still accurate though.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68274
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 29 October 2016, 20:50:14
    Oh I get it, it's a yarbo mini Din4 shell (s vid) with a mini DIN-6 (PS/2) innards. I will have to do some more looking.

    In the meantime I will see if I can find who sells this:
    http://www.hspcon.com/product/a/mini-din/circular-connector/mini-din-circular-connector-a-2004.php

    Hah found one of them, since he is in Europe I looked there first: BKL 0204020 metal 6 pin DIN
    http://electronicpartsspecialist.co.uk/bkl-0204020-6-pin-din-plug-cable-mount/

    another one. I think I'm good on my own for now. Lets see if we can buy them singly http://mdrelectronics.com/ProductDisplay.asp?PID=146
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Tue, 01 November 2016, 16:06:35
    Where can I buy a Leeku 1800 PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 01 November 2016, 16:58:22
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Tue, 01 November 2016, 16:06:35
    Where can I buy a Leeku 1800 PCB?
    Have you tried sending leeku a PM?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 09 November 2016, 15:20:11
    What are my 6x spacebar options?

    I found this: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99

    But what about stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 09 November 2016, 15:34:39
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 09 November 2016, 15:20:11
    What are my 6x spacebar options?

    I found this: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99)

    But what about stabs?


    You should bend your own wires, or get some old 18xx ones; however, this last ones only works with no plate, due to the bended middle.


    (http://i.imgur.com/XeD9xPr.jpg)



    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Sat, 12 November 2016, 23:15:01
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 09 November 2016, 15:20:11
    What are my 6x spacebar options?

    I found this: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99

    But what about stabs?

    SPRiT was doing a GB for 3u, 4u, 5u, 6u, and 8u gold-plated cherry stabilizer wires, but there was some issues with him not coming through on past orders so there's that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Mon, 14 November 2016, 19:58:17
    Does the IBM Capsense utility for the Xwhatsit controllers work on Linux?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tagkaman on Wed, 16 November 2016, 01:12:10
    Is it okay for me to use my keyboard without a case (like pcb in contact with table/jeans at all times) or will this destroy my board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 16 November 2016, 01:49:30
    Quote from: Tagkaman on Wed, 16 November 2016, 01:12:10
    Is it okay for me to use my keyboard without a case (like pcb in contact with table/jeans at all times) or will this destroy my board?

    (https://media.giphy.com/media/1M9fmo1WAFVK0/giphy.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tagkaman on Wed, 16 November 2016, 01:53:15
    Quote from: csmertx on Wed, 16 November 2016, 01:49:30
    But why?

    I really like the feel of the board outside the case because the pressing of the keys doesn't resonate in the empty plastic below the board... I'm trying to figure out a way to get around this but for the time being out of board is the best feel I can get.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 16 November 2016, 03:14:21
    Quote from: Tagkaman on Wed, 16 November 2016, 01:53:15
    Quote from: csmertx on Wed, 16 November 2016, 01:49:30
    But why?

    I really like the feel of the board outside the case because the pressing of the keys doesn't resonate in the empty plastic below the board... I'm trying to figure out a way to get around this but for the time being out of board is the best feel I can get.

    Ohhh. You could lay down some sound dampening material at the bottom of the case (similar to Leopold cases). Sound dampening below the pcb coupled with landing pads might soften up the sound a bit /shrug
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 16 November 2016, 07:23:58
    Quote from: Tagkaman on Wed, 16 November 2016, 01:53:15

    I really like the feel of the board outside the case because the pressing of the keys doesn't resonate in the empty plastic below the board...


    I have been using various "naked" keyboard configurations with my mats

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59308.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59308.0)

    for a few years now and it works well (as long as the surprising amount of dust that becomes visible does not bother you).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Thu, 17 November 2016, 12:42:53
    Hello, where can i find a good mechanical numpad?
    I wish programmable, pcb and case, i can find switch myself
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 17 November 2016, 12:49:42
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 17 November 2016, 12:42:53
    Hello, where can i find a good mechanical numpad?
    I wish programmable, pcb and case, i can find switch myself
    Thanks

    I've been considering one of the newer Leopold numpads. I guess there is a version that outputs numpad codes rather than plain ordinary numbers. Could take it apart and wire it all to a teensy. I bet there are GB numpads floating around. Have you looked at winkeyless.kr? Pretty cool stuff
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jack Burton on Fri, 18 November 2016, 15:50:58
    Hi

    I am requesting some suggestions for a keyboard which will allow me to program several keys to act as additional function keys so I can map them to certain actions I need for my projects.  My budget is about $50.

    I would prefer it not to be one of of the 122-key Model M keyboards as I do not really like those types of buckling springs.
    I have seen some of these Memorex Telex keyboard on ebay.  I have read they are rubber dome but use a type of technology called maxi switch.  Does this have a good feel?  Does anyone know if the extra keys are readable in modern operating systems?

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BIQAAOSwT5tWPU6O/s-l1600.jpg)

    I know there is also the gateway 2000 anykey out there.  Would it use the same dome switches as this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 18 November 2016, 18:01:25
    Quote from: Jack Burton on Fri, 18 November 2016, 15:50:58
    Hi

    I am requesting some suggestions for a keyboard which will allow me to program several keys to act as additional function keys so I can map them to certain actions I need for my projects.  My budget is about $50.

    I would prefer it not to be one of of the 122-key Model M keyboards as I do not really like those types of buckling springs.
    I have seen some of these Memorex Telex keyboard on ebay.  I have read they are rubber dome but use a type of technology called maxi switch.  Does this have a good feel?  Does anyone know if the extra keys are readable in modern operating systems?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BIQAAOSwT5tWPU6O/s-l1600.jpg)


    I know there is also the gateway 2000 anykey out there.  Would it use the same dome switches as this?

    If you can't find a Model F 122 just get a Model M 122. Actually, the M would be cheaper vs. the model f in the long run, even with a soarer's converter and bolt mod. They're usually around $50 on ebay. Lookup deskthority model m so you have a solid grasp regarding the model numbers. Why pay for a rubber dome when you can get a buckling spring?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Phyltre on Sat, 19 November 2016, 08:28:18
    So I'm the extremely happy owner of a VE.A b-stock kit.  (This is my very first self-build.)  And, as expected, I need to buy more stuff to put it together.  Looking at the assembly guide, I'm seeing several things not in the box that aren't really explained that well for someone who hasn't put together a keyboard before.  It looks like I need three of some kind of LED, resistors of some kind?, a few stabilizers that I'm not sure of the type or possibilities with, obviously a quantity of switches (but I'm not sure what mounting type this is actually is to order them), and obviously the cables and keycaps--which I can certainly sort out myself.

    Is there a more comprehensive guide out there for someone like me?  Or alternatively a definitive guide as to what I need to buy to make sure I have the right parts for this keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sat, 19 November 2016, 12:59:38
    Quote from: csmertx on Thu, 17 November 2016, 12:49:42
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 17 November 2016, 12:42:53
    Hello, where can i find a good mechanical numpad?
    I wish programmable, pcb and case, i can find switch myself
    Thanks

    I've been considering one of the newer Leopold numpads. I guess there is a version that outputs numpad codes rather than plain ordinary numbers. Could take it apart and wire it all to a teensy. I bet there are GB numpads floating around. Have you looked at winkeyless.kr? Pretty cool stuff
    Thanks, unfortunately about Leopold numpads, one thing does bother me: cable isnt removal
    I wish a numpad with removal cable
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85046.0
    this one is sick but pretty above my budget
    Anything similar but with lower budget?
    Yes, i already took a look into winkeyless shop
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 19 November 2016, 13:16:37
    Quote from: ajx on Sat, 19 November 2016, 12:59:38
    Quote from: csmertx on Thu, 17 November 2016, 12:49:42
    Quote from: ajx on Thu, 17 November 2016, 12:42:53
    Hello, where can i find a good mechanical numpad?
    I wish programmable, pcb and case, i can find switch myself
    Thanks

    I've been considering one of the newer Leopold numpads. I guess there is a version that outputs numpad codes rather than plain ordinary numbers. Could take it apart and wire it all to a teensy. I bet there are GB numpads floating around. Have you looked at winkeyless.kr? Pretty cool stuff
    Thanks, unfortunately about Leopold numpads, one thing does bother me: cable isnt removal
    I wish a numpad with removal cable
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85046.0
    this one is sick but pretty above my budget
    Anything similar but with lower budget?
    Yes, i already took a look into winkeyless shop

    IDK - most kits end up costing about the same as a Winkeyless numpad if not more. It might be easier (definitely cheaper) to mod a detachable into an existing numpad.

    Noppoo Choc Mini detachable USB (Youtube)--pretty much the same process (https://youtu.be/egaqtCgw2pw)

    The Jelly Comb numpad sells for $20. One could buy a cheap soldering iron, flux, solder, usb female connector, and the numpad, for a cheaper price compared to most premade mechanical numpads
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 November 2016, 08:50:30
    Quote from: csmertx on Fri, 18 November 2016, 18:01:25
    Quote from: Jack Burton on Fri, 18 November 2016, 15:50:58
    Hi

    I am requesting some suggestions for a keyboard which will allow me to program several keys to act as additional function keys so I can map them to certain actions I need for my projects.  My budget is about $50.

    I would prefer it not to be one of of the 122-key Model M keyboards as I do not really like those types of buckling springs.
    I have seen some of these Memorex Telex keyboard on ebay.  I have read they are rubber dome but use a type of technology called maxi switch.  Does this have a good feel?  Does anyone know if the extra keys are readable in modern operating systems?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BIQAAOSwT5tWPU6O/s-l1600.jpg)


    I know there is also the gateway 2000 anykey out there.  Would it use the same dome switches as this?

    If you can't find a Model F 122 just get a Model M 122. Actually, the M would be cheaper vs. the model f in the long run, even with a soarer's converter and bolt mod. They're usually around $50 on ebay. Lookup deskthority model m so you have a solid grasp regarding the model numbers. Why pay for a rubber dome when you can get a buckling spring?


    Burton wrote he does not like BS; so, why are you recommending to get one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Sun, 20 November 2016, 09:47:51
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 20 November 2016, 08:50:30
    Quote from: csmertx on Fri, 18 November 2016, 18:01:25
    Quote from: Jack Burton on Fri, 18 November 2016, 15:50:58
    Hi

    I am requesting some suggestions for a keyboard which will allow me to program several keys to act as additional function keys so I can map them to certain actions I need for my projects.  My budget is about $50.

    I would prefer it not to be one of of the 122-key Model M keyboards as I do not really like those types of buckling springs.
    I have seen some of these Memorex Telex keyboard on ebay.  I have read they are rubber dome but use a type of technology called maxi switch.  Does this have a good feel?  Does anyone know if the extra keys are readable in modern operating systems?

    Show Image
    (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BIQAAOSwT5tWPU6O/s-l1600.jpg)


    I know there is also the gateway 2000 anykey out there.  Would it use the same dome switches as this?

    If you can't find a Model F 122 just get a Model M 122. Actually, the M would be cheaper vs. the model f in the long run, even with a soarer's converter and bolt mod. They're usually around $50 on ebay. Lookup deskthority model m so you have a solid grasp regarding the model numbers. Why pay for a rubber dome when you can get a buckling spring?


    Burton wrote he does not like BS; so, why are you recommending to get one?

    Honestly, I didn't read that part. But why even buy a 122 keyboard in the first place? 122 keys of rubber domes without the springs underneath to make them snappy? Does not compute.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 20 November 2016, 10:24:17
    There are 122-key NMB Hi-Tek "Space Invaders" terminals that (i think that I remember) come with native PS/2 which might be an excellent choice, even if it took a re-mapping program for some of them.

    edit - Hypersphere is selling one here, now. He bought it from me and it was essentially new when I got it, so it is still surely in spectacular shape.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Mon, 21 November 2016, 00:33:37
    I am coming from green alps and trying this super-tuned 'n lubed vintage MX black dealio.

    What weight gold springs (SPRiT) is most comparable to MX blue springs in a Dolch-Pac. I swapped some Gateron yellow sliders into the stock housings and I really like the weighting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jaffers on Mon, 21 November 2016, 21:14:58
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Mon, 21 November 2016, 00:33:37
    I am coming from green alps and trying this super-tuned 'n lubed vintage MX black dealio.

    What weight gold springs (SPRiT) is most comparable to MX blue springs in a Dolch-Pac. I swapped some Gateron yellow sliders into the stock housings and I really like the weighting.

    Because there is no actuation point in linears you might want to go with a light 62g spring, especially since they're lubed. Cherry blues are 50cN so 50/55g springs (depending on what you can find), but they've got the actuation point
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jack Burton on Tue, 22 November 2016, 19:14:40
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 20 November 2016, 10:24:17
    There are 122-key NMB Hi-Tek "Space Invaders" terminals that (i think that I remember) come with native PS/2 which might be an excellent choice, even if it took a re-mapping program for some of them.

    edit - Hypersphere is selling one here, now. He bought it from me and it was essentially new when I got it, so it is still surely in spectacular shape.



    I am very interested in this keyboard and I made a failed attempt at purchasing one for $40 from a retailer in Quebec, Canada where it was listed on their site as in stock.  It seems that listing was in error. 

    Unfortunately, the unit that is on sale on ebay is far outside of my current price range.  I will have to keep my eyes open for another opportunity. 

    One of the other Memorex Telex keyboard auctions provided this photo under the key caps:

    (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bjoAAOSwvg9XZZ7D/s-l1600.jpg)

    This does not appear to be Maxi Switch.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 22 November 2016, 22:25:49
    Quote from: Jack Burton on Tue, 22 November 2016, 19:14:40

    Unfortunately, the unit that is on sale on ebay is far outside of my current price range.  I will have to keep my eyes open for another opportunity. 


    The price is stiff but that is a magnificent keyboard. Pristine black clicky NMB Hi-Teks are extremely rare anyway, and in a 122-key terminal with native PS/2 is almost unheard-of.

    It is truly rare in that condition. I bought it to harvest immaculate switches and PBT dye-sub key caps, but I could not bring myself to dismantle it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 25 November 2016, 19:40:21
    When one bottoms a Cherry MX, where exactly is the bottoming contact made? The reason I am asking is because I bought some magnets to glue into a few to see what it feels like and trying to determine if I need to clip the mind off the bottom housing and the bottom of the stem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 25 November 2016, 23:32:46
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 25 November 2016, 19:40:21
    When one bottoms a Cherry MX, where exactly is the bottoming contact made? The reason I am asking is because I bought some magnets to glue into a few to see what it feels like and trying to determine if I need to clip the mind off the bottom housing and the bottom of the stem.

    Check out the first few pictures in this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0). There's a MX switch sliced in half and bottomed out. Contact does seem to be between the stem and the bottom of the housing, but the 'arms' are close.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DanB on Sat, 26 November 2016, 11:09:27
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/TO-300-ANSI-Keyboard-Vintage-Black-Cherry-Switches-Double-Shot-00-120-001-0870-/132006544019?hash=item1ebc340293:g:ZpAAAOSw2GlXH8CN

    Does this keyboard have vintage blacks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 26 November 2016, 12:18:09
    Quote from: DanB on Sat, 26 November 2016, 11:09:27
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/TO-300-ANSI-Keyboard-Vintage-Black-Cherry-Switches-Double-Shot-00-120-001-0870-/132006544019?hash=item1ebc340293:g:ZpAAAOSw2GlXH8CN

    Does this keyboard have vintage blacks?

    I didn't buy that exact model from him, but I have bought two other ones he was selling, and they did have vintage blacks just as advertised.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DanB on Sat, 26 November 2016, 12:24:03
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sat, 26 November 2016, 12:18:09


    I didn't buy that exact model from him, but I have bought two other ones he was selling, and they did have vintage blacks just as advertised.

    Thank you very much. Looks like I have a cheap source of vintage blacks for a build or two.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 27 November 2016, 06:13:19
    I'm looking for a set of 1.25 arrow keys in GMK R4. Preferably just one set in a primary color so that it will look good with as many other sets as possible. Does such a thing exist?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 27 November 2016, 10:13:24
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 27 November 2016, 06:13:19
    I'm looking for a set of 1.25 arrow keys in GMK R4. Preferably just one set in a primary color so that it will look good with as many other sets as possible. Does such a thing exist?

    Maybe blanks, I have not seen arrow keys in that size, so far. Granite set comes with some, though, other profile.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 27 November 2016, 10:40:01
    Yeah, I know about the granite ones.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Wed, 30 November 2016, 23:18:54
    Beside the Duck Orion and Kingsaver, are there any other customs that have Alps support?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 30 November 2016, 23:25:22
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Wed, 30 November 2016, 23:18:54
    Beside the Duck Orion and Kingsaver, are there any other customs that have Alps support?

    Infinity Ergodox? If you were referring to similarly styled cases I have no idea what else is out there
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DanD3n on Thu, 01 December 2016, 07:34:00
    How hard is to get adjusted to an ortho linear? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: thokir on Thu, 01 December 2016, 07:41:51
    Not that hard, cost me 3 days to completely adjust from my gh60 to a planck.
    And I definitely would do it again, the planck is much more ergonomic for long typingsessions.

    Quote from: DanD3n on Thu, 01 December 2016, 07:34:00
    How hard is to get adjusted to an ortho linear? :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DanD3n on Thu, 01 December 2016, 10:08:37
    Hmmm. Then i should give it a chance... What is the cheapest ortho keyboard available? Not necessary a mech, since i just want one to practice and see who i feel about it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive_ on Thu, 01 December 2016, 23:58:48
    I'm looking into building my own keyboards. I've always wanted a Planck (in fact, I was going to buy it as my first mechanical keyboard until I discovered the HHKB), however, I came across the JD40 kit, and then I wasn't sure which one I wanted to buy. Then I came across the AMJ40, and now I really can't decide which one to build (unfortunately "all" isn't an option :/). I'm hesitant on purchasing the Planck because a.) that layout and b.) I have to buy each part separate from olkb.com since it's not on Massdrop anymore. I'm hesitant on purchasing the JD40 because I feel like the layout isn't used to it's full potential (unlike the AMJ40 and MiniVan). I'm hesitant on purchasing the AMJ40 because they aren't even in stock and I might as well get a MiniVan. So, which one should I build?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive_ on Thu, 01 December 2016, 23:59:58
    Whoops, accidentally posted twice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: giammin on Fri, 02 December 2016, 02:43:43
    is it possible to map ctrl+c on a key in a pok3r?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iFreilicht on Fri, 02 December 2016, 09:35:05
    Quote from: DanD3n on Thu, 01 December 2016, 10:08:37
    Hmmm. Then i should give it a chance... What is the cheapest ortho keyboard available? Not necessary a mech, since i just want one to practice and see who i feel about it.

    I tried to see whether I could find non-mech orthos, but apart from the TypeMatrix, I didn't find any, and that is super expensive for a rubber-dome. I think the cheapest way would be to get a planck case, but switches in it and then hand-wire it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Fri, 02 December 2016, 11:57:06
    Tipro, Access-IS and other point-of-sale keypads have Cherry MX Black switches in a grid, and can be had for about €30 second-hand. See Deskthority Marketplace (or the finds' thread); UK Keycaps or some other British vendor had lots of Acess-IS boards too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:52:36
    Do tactile greys have the same issues with stem tightness as mx clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 04 December 2016, 11:11:13
    Quote from: MandrewDavis on Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:52:36
    Do tactile greys have the same issues with stem tightness as mx clears?

    Yes and linear greys have the same issue too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fublamchu on Sun, 04 December 2016, 13:57:45
    For people who've tried the Topre-MX sliders from Aliexpress, how are they?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BLaZe on Sun, 04 December 2016, 16:06:56
    Does a ducky one tkl pcb fit in an aluminium case such as https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280 ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: unoab on Mon, 05 December 2016, 03:14:22
    Quote from: BLaZe on Sun, 04 December 2016, 16:06:56
    Does a ducky one tkl pcb fit in an aluminium case such as https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280 ?

    No, look at the spacing between the function and the number row, that is where the differences are in TKL boards.  The filcos/cooler masters have more vertical spacing between those rows than the duckys, so the ducky will not fit the case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BLaZe on Mon, 05 December 2016, 08:59:15
    Quote from: unoab on Mon, 05 December 2016, 03:14:22
    Quote from: BLaZe on Sun, 04 December 2016, 16:06:56
    Does a ducky one tkl pcb fit in an aluminium case such as https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280 ?

    No, look at the spacing between the function and the number row, that is where the differences are in TKL boards.  The filcos/cooler masters have more vertical spacing between those rows than the duckys, so the ducky will not fit the case.

    Thank you, yes the gap between rows are slightly thiner on the duckky than on a filco. Guess I'll keep stock case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive_ on Mon, 05 December 2016, 12:44:14
    How do I wire this:

    http://winkeyless.kr/product/rgb-led/

    up to a B.mini EX X2?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 05 December 2016, 12:46:21
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive_ on Mon, 05 December 2016, 12:44:14
    How do I wire this:

    http://winkeyless.kr/product/rgb-led/

    up to a B.mini EX X2?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    You don't wire them up per se, these are SMT components and require you to solder them directly to the solder pads of the winkeyless or supporting PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 9fiftyfive_ on Mon, 05 December 2016, 13:00:37
    Quote from: Fictiouz on Mon, 05 December 2016, 12:46:21
    Quote from: 9fiftyfive_ on Mon, 05 December 2016, 12:44:14
    How do I wire this:

    http://winkeyless.kr/product/rgb-led/

    up to a B.mini EX X2?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    You don't wire them up per se, these are SMT components and require you to solder them directly to the solder pads of the winkeyless or supporting PCB.
    Oh, I had a brain fart. They come presoldered with the SMT kit :P


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 08 December 2016, 21:58:58
    Which is going to be quieter? HHKB Type S or HHKB Pro2 with Hypersphere rings?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: menuhin on Mon, 12 December 2016, 14:14:49
    Having been fishing around too much, and I realize it's better to focus my energy (about this hobby) in planning my "end-game" projects - a series of Hot-swappable modded keyboards from 40% up to 75% (or VE.A) for both Alps and MX.

    A few simple questions for all the experienced GHers:

    1. Does a JD40 milled case exist?
    e.g. like those for JD45, and not with some screws exposed.
    If it doesn't exist, and as JD40 totally does not fit in a Planck case, I'll go with a modified Quark PCB (which is open-sourced) with a JD40 bottom role. However, JD40 is Alps compatible, and so does Planck PCB. Not for the case of Quark / Kwark PCB. Hotswap-mods for MX are all easy on these 3 PCB.

    2. Does B.mini has a compatible aluminum case that can make use of its bottle light, but not in a screw-exposed and all-screwed-together layered style?
    e.g. like those of RedScarf or Duck (Korean Duck, not the Taiwan Ducky.
    B.mini is the only 75% PCB on which a no drilling required MX hotswap-mod is possible.


    There are a bunch of people testing many kinds of receptacles for MX, unfortunately they are not interested in the real good switches - Alps.
    Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTEpMxu0-9QZoqANt2piXOzjxHSEIafLuUYjJIw1J0JFAH_xiA6n6MSeU7UlZ0oli9fbNn87rjUl_Ov/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nyunyu on Thu, 15 December 2016, 08:08:41
    I recently got a '95 Cherry MX 1000 keyboard (G80-1000HFD)
    But it seems to be 2KRO, you can't press A+W+D together, it doesn't registers D.

    As I see it has a decent keyboard controller (Motorola ZC86956P), which is capable of handling 8*19 keyboard matrix, so theoretically NKRO should not be a problem.

    As I read somewhere, early Cherry keyboards had diodes in their switches, so you could press any buttons, they did work perfectly as NKRO.

    Can I upgrade my keyboard to NKRO by replacing the jumpers in my switches with diodes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 19 December 2016, 18:46:58

    Having been fishing around too much, and I realize it's better to focus my energy (about this hobby) in planning my "end-game" projects - a series of Hot-swappable modded keyboards from 40% up to 75% (or VE.A) for both Alps and MX.


    A few simple questions for all the experienced GHers:

    1. Does a JD40 milled case exist?

    not from jd that I know of, the only official jd40 stuff is the top bottom plates, which right now are sold on 1up in CF, and I think I saw steel as well in the past (at least that's what was planned for the smallfrye kit). I know some people have made their own stuff with like big blue saw, but never cases persay, just the top and bottom. Have you tried the minivan? has alps and mx compatibility and I believe the first edition was milled alu.

    2. Does B.mini has a compatible aluminum case that can make use of its bottle light, but not in a screw-exposed and all-screwed-together layered style?

    I know that people have toyed with metal cases for the TKL winkeyless boards, but nothing for the 75 I dont think.

    There are a bunch of people testing many kinds of receptacles for MX, unfortunately they are not interested in the real good switches - Alps.

    talk to E3E, he knows everything about hotswapping and alps.

    hope some of this helped
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Tue, 20 December 2016, 12:19:07
    what are the best kind of lube for cherry stabs? to cancel and dampen the rattle to the maximum
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 21 December 2016, 23:13:45
    So, not to long ago, I was reading some material on how xwhatsit came up with all the stuff for his controller, something like 12 or 14 pages.  Any idea where I can find that?  His usual download link is just install stuffs.

    Scratch that, I found it.

    http://downloads.cornall.co/ibm-capsense-usb-web/ibm-capsense-usb.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 22 December 2016, 12:39:42
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 20 December 2016, 12:19:07
    what are the best kind of lube for cherry stabs? to cancel and dampen the rattle to the maximum

    Something thick that won't react to plastics or move around to much. http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant TechKeys has a thick and thin, I'd use thick for the stabs and thin for the stems+springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tomasz on Thu, 22 December 2016, 13:11:07
    Ducky DKON1687 is my first keyboard from Ducky. Can you please tell me if it is normal that the cable/connector does not go any deeper?

    http://i.imgur.com/JnZssog.jpg

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 23 December 2016, 01:01:47
    Quote from: Tomasz on Thu, 22 December 2016, 13:11:07
    Ducky DKON1687 is my first keyboard from Ducky. Can you please tell me if it is normal that the cable/connector does not go any deeper?

    http://i.imgur.com/JnZssog.jpg

    While I don't have any experience with that particular keyboard, it doesn't look like it "clicked" into place.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 28 December 2016, 01:12:29
    I read the FAQ thread but I have questions regarding certain LED's. I saw Quakemz post about building and he mentioned he liked 1.8 LED's. Any leads on where to get those? The places in the FAQ does not really explain which ones I need. Thanks for any help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fusion on Sun, 01 January 2017, 17:33:06
    I recently got a Leopold FC660M and I removed the spacebar to try some o-rings. Well, after reinstalling the spacebar (Cherry stabilizers), it seems that it sits higher than it used to. I tried removing the o-rings, and flipping it. Is it possible that I messed up the switch when removing it, or am I just crazy?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nic3GreenNachos on Wed, 04 January 2017, 05:13:45
    I had a CM Storm QuickFire and got a PS/2-micro usb cable from Mimic Cables.
    https://www.mimic-cables.com/products/custom-ps-2-cable

     That works fine with that keybaord. I have since got a NerD 108. And it seems that the PS/2-micrio usb doesn't work with the NerD 108. When plug it in, the LED will get power, but there is no key inputs being received. I tired it with a usb-PS/2 converter and that also doesn't work. Does the NerD 108 have the capability to work with PS/2? Is is possible to have the PS/2-mirco usb cable modified to work with the NerD 108? Is there anything that can be done about this. I search google and found nothing. I even found a thread on geekhack
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43915.msg1474447#msg1474447

    where someone asked the same question and never got a response. And another thread
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65590.0

    that had a guy with a similar problem. But he said that he is currently using a converter and it worked. But the PS/2-usb didn't work out for him. And another guy in the the thread said that it needs to be a cable specifically for a keyboard. Can anything be done?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Axiomatik on Wed, 04 January 2017, 12:25:09
    I've been waiting for the last couple months for Vortex/Massdrop to release and RGB Poker with Cherry Clears. Now that it seems like it's not going to happen, at least soon, what options do I have for a tactile standard layout 60% board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fublamchu on Wed, 04 January 2017, 12:30:01
    Quote from: Axiomatik on Wed, 04 January 2017, 12:25:09
    I've been waiting for the last couple months for Vortex/Massdrop to release and RGB Poker with Cherry Clears. Now that it seems like it's not going to happen, at least soon, what options do I have for a tactile standard layout 60% board.

    KBP V60 w/ MX Clears?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 January 2017, 12:38:33
    Quote from: Fusion on Sun, 01 January 2017, 17:33:06
    I recently got a Leopold FC660M and I removed the spacebar to try some o-rings. Well, after reinstalling the spacebar (Cherry stabilizers), it seems that it sits higher than it used to. I tried removing the o-rings, and flipping it. Is it possible that I messed up the switch when removing it, or am I just crazy?

    I think that is the normal height. My leopold spacebar is slightly higher than the rest of the row.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Axiomatik on Wed, 04 January 2017, 23:31:49
    Quote from: fublamchu on Wed, 04 January 2017, 12:30:01
    Quote from: Axiomatik on Wed, 04 January 2017, 12:25:09
    I've been waiting for the last couple months for Vortex/Massdrop to release and RGB Poker with Cherry Clears. Now that it seems like it's not going to happen, at least soon, what options do I have for a tactile standard layout 60% board.

    KBP V60 w/ MX Clears?

    I was hoping for an rgb option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 05 January 2017, 05:35:52
    Quote from: ArchDill on Wed, 28 December 2016, 01:12:29
    I read the FAQ thread but I have questions regarding certain LED's. I saw Quakemz post about building and he mentioned he liked 1.8 LED's. Any leads on where to get those? The places in the FAQ does not really explain which ones I need. Thanks for any help!

    Google "1.8mm LED", they're quite common. Not sure if you're looking for round or square ones, but there are FAQ threads for that too.

    Quote from: Fusion on Sun, 01 January 2017, 17:33:06
    I recently got a Leopold FC660M and I removed the spacebar to try some o-rings. Well, after reinstalling the spacebar (Cherry stabilizers), it seems that it sits higher than it used to. I tried removing the o-rings, and flipping it. Is it possible that I messed up the switch when removing it, or am I just crazy?

    Take the spacebar off and the key next to it and compare the switches, is one stem sitting higher out of the switch's case than the other, or the switch not sitting flat on the plate? You might also just try pressing the spacebar firmly, it may not be seated all the way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 05 January 2017, 05:47:15
    Quote from: Nic3GreenNachos on Wed, 04 January 2017, 05:13:45
    I had a CM Storm QuickFire and got a PS/2-micro usb cable from Mimic Cables.
    https://www.mimic-cables.com/products/custom-ps-2-cable

     That works fine with that keybaord. I have since got a NerD 108. And it seems that the PS/2-micrio usb doesn't work with the NerD 108. When plug it in, the LED will get power, but there is no key inputs being received. I tired it with a usb-PS/2 converter and that also doesn't work. Does the NerD 108 have the capability to work with PS/2? Is is possible to have the PS/2-mirco usb cable modified to work with the NerD 108? Is there anything that can be done about this. I search google and found nothing. I even found a thread on geekhack
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43915.msg1474447#msg1474447

    where someone asked the same question and never got a response. And another thread
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65590.0

    that had a guy with a similar problem. But he said that he is currently using a converter and it worked. But the PS/2-usb didn't work out for him. And another guy in the the thread said that it needs to be a cable specifically for a keyboard. Can anything be done?

    This happened to me on my Mini which runs an early version of ps2avr.  Power and no inputs for me meant that the cable's power and ground inputs were correctly mapped, but the Data+ and Data- lines were switched. Here is the pinout Mimic used for my correct cable: http://pinouts.ru/InputCables/usb_ps2_mouse_pinout.shtml

    You can verify the mapping using a multimeter to check continuity between the pins on one end and the pins on the other end of the cable. A little tedious, but it may help to verify how the cable is mapped.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nic3GreenNachos on Thu, 05 January 2017, 06:50:28
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Thu, 05 January 2017, 05:47:15
    Quote from: Nic3GreenNachos on Wed, 04 January 2017, 05:13:45
    I had a CM Storm QuickFire and got a PS/2-micro usb cable from Mimic Cables.
    https://www.mimic-cables.com/products/custom-ps-2-cable

     That works fine with that keybaord. I have since got a NerD 108. And it seems that the PS/2-micrio usb doesn't work with the NerD 108. When plug it in, the LED will get power, but there is no key inputs being received. I tired it with a usb-PS/2 converter and that also doesn't work. Does the NerD 108 have the capability to work with PS/2? Is is possible to have the PS/2-mirco usb cable modified to work with the NerD 108? Is there anything that can be done about this. I search google and found nothing. I even found a thread on geekhack
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43915.msg1474447#msg1474447

    where someone asked the same question and never got a response. And another thread
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65590.0

    that had a guy with a similar problem. But he said that he is currently using a converter and it worked. But the PS/2-usb didn't work out for him. And another guy in the the thread said that it needs to be a cable specifically for a keyboard. Can anything be done?

    This happened to me on my Mini which runs an early version of ps2avr.  Power and no inputs for me meant that the cable's power and ground inputs were correctly mapped, but the Data+ and Data- lines were switched. Here is the pinout Mimic used for my correct cable: http://pinouts.ru/InputCables/usb_ps2_mouse_pinout.shtml

    You can verify the mapping using a multimeter to check continuity between the pins on one end and the pins on the other end of the cable. A little tedious, but it may help to verify how the cable is mapped.

    Ah. Thanks I don't have multimeter myself, but I may be able to get one. However, initially when I order the cable from Mimic Cables it came faulty and I contacted the guy that runs it and sent it to him to be repaired. He said he offers a lifetime repair warranty on his work. So, I hope to get the meter and check, and if it is wrong I will contact him again and send it out. Thanks again.

    Additionally, I still don't know if the NerD 108 supports PS/2. Does anyone have this info. I know I can contact GON, but anyone who has done business with him knows how difficult it is to contact him.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: robromo on Thu, 05 January 2017, 11:51:58
    What are the popular options for a full size keyboard, brown switches, RGB lighting would be cool (Not needed, but a perk), around 150 (or less) (max 200)?

    I'm looking at the MasterKey Pro L, and Ducky Shine 5 (Is 6 out or just on MK.com?)

    I hear tons of bad things about LEDs on Corsair K70 - and although it feels cheaper than my current board (CM Storm Quickfire Rapid - the grey bezel, black keys) I DO like how it has the raised keycaps. Felt nice, and easier to clean. It seems like Ducky Shine 6 might be like that based on pics from MK.com

    Also, I do love my CM Storm, but its TKL I want full size, and it's blue, I want brown switches now!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 05 January 2017, 13:20:04
    Does anyone know where I can get the schematic for the buzzer daughter board in the 4704 IBMs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 05 January 2017, 13:36:28
    I found a bit of information about IBM 4704 but I'm not that great at deciphering this kind of information just yet

    https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/converter/ibm4704_usb/ibm4704.txt (https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/converter/ibm4704_usb/ibm4704.txt)

    Here's a neat pdf brochure just for kicks (not a technical reference)

    http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/IBM-ProdAnn/4700.pdf (http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/IBM-ProdAnn/4700.pdf)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 05 January 2017, 13:56:16
    Quote from: csmertx on Thu, 05 January 2017, 13:36:28
    I found a bit of information about IBM 4704 but I'm not that great at deciphering this kind of information just yet

    https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/converter/ibm4704_usb/ibm4704.txt (https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/converter/ibm4704_usb/ibm4704.txt)

    Here's a neat pdf brochure just for kicks (not a technical reference)

    http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/IBM-ProdAnn/4700.pdf (http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/IBM-ProdAnn/4700.pdf)

    Thanks, but not what I am looking for.  I am trying to figure out the schematic because I want to breadboard the daughter board for the buzzer.  Essentially, I want to fix the issue with the buzzer constantly going when you disable or toggle it.  I am very new to electronics in general, and want to go this route.  The electronics shop I went to today, had issues figuring out exactly what a couple of the componenets were so I am trying to dig up the schematic to figure that out.

    Side note, I noticed in the brochure, they showed two sizes of the keyboard, mentioned 3, but we know of 4 from that series. The 50, 62, 77, and 107 key versions.  Unless one of these is not an official version from that line.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Fri, 06 January 2017, 18:23:50
    Can someone post a link for the number pad layer of an SSK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 07 January 2017, 21:27:19
    Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 06 January 2017, 18:23:50
    Can someone post a link for the number pad layer of an SSK?

    Are you looking for something more in-depth than this? https://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_Space_Saving_Keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ValerieV on Mon, 09 January 2017, 23:50:02
     I just got a happy hacking Bluetooth keyboard. It's the Japanese model. How do I switch between two devices going back-and-forth without deleting a device on one. Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:51:25
    Does anyone know if there's a good source of long-tail SIP sockets other than the expensive ones from mouser?  (This might not be a simple question...)
    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d

    I know there was a group buy long ago, and I got some from it, but I need MOAR!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 09:10:00
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Fri, 13 January 2017, 12:44:58
    Quote from: Photoelectric on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:51:25
    Does anyone know if there's a good source of long-tail SIP sockets other than the expensive ones from mouser?  (This might not be a simple question...)
    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/311-43-164-41-001000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs%2fSh%2fkjph1tjJZclYmfaNPJ3I9Z5RDf1I%3d

    I know there was a group buy long ago, and I got some from it, but I need MOAR!

    Here are the ones on Vincent's store (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Wholesales-DIY-200-pcs-lot-240pcs-lot-Crystal-Base-Long-Pin-Hot-Plug-Hot-Swap-For/429151_32622320922.html) too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hasu on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:39:33
    Quote from: ValerieV on Mon, 09 January 2017, 23:50:02
    I just got a happy hacking Bluetooth keyboard. It's the Japanese model. How do I switch between two devices going back-and-forth without deleting a device on one. Thank you.
    I don't think you can, manual doesn't refer the function at least.

    Sent from my Nexus 5X

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eris_ on Fri, 13 January 2017, 23:08:26
    Has anyone spotted an RGB 65% keyboard? Whenever I search "RGB 65% keyboard" it returns "Corsair K65 RGB compact". Something like the white fox, or this sexy thing: http://22kbd.com/173 (http://22kbd.com/173), but with full RGB lighting. Just a full RGB 65% keyboard with arrow keys, preferably with both a dedicated backspace and delete.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 14 January 2017, 08:37:41
    2x3x4mm LEDs work with SA profile caps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blackhawk on Sun, 15 January 2017, 09:48:01
    Is there any places in Europe where you can buy PCB mounted tactile grey switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Sun, 15 January 2017, 09:51:35
    Quote from: Blackhawk on Sun, 15 January 2017, 09:48:01
    Is there any places in Europe where you can buy PCB mounted tactile grey switches?
    https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html (https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html)

    I doubt it is cheaper than buying from other place, but it's in EU.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 15 January 2017, 16:28:50
    Anyone have a recommendation on calipers with needle-point tips? Trying not to break the bank, but I need .01mm precision. If I can't get some for sub-$50 I think I'd need recs on any old standard calipers with the same precision.

    Ex:

    (http://i.imgur.com/Goq211u.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 15 January 2017, 17:13:11
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Sun, 15 January 2017, 16:28:50
    Anyone have a recommendation on calipers with needle-point tips? Trying not to break the bank, but I need .01mm precision. If I can't get some for sub-$50 I think I'd need recs on any old standard calipers with the same precision.

    Ex:

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/Goq211u.jpg)


    After doing some more reading I may be a bit off-base with my expectations, sounds like .01mm accuracy might be unrealistic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmba on Sun, 15 January 2017, 20:42:11
    Is the profile of Realforce caps too distinct from sculpture 2 on the fc660c to make an alpha swap (to the Leo) uncomfortable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eris_ on Mon, 16 January 2017, 01:33:03
    Thanks for the help guys. No, REALLY... =_=
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 16 January 2017, 05:25:23
    Quote from: Eris_ on Mon, 16 January 2017, 01:33:03
    Thanks for the help guys. No, REALLY... =_=

    Perhaps no one has spotted one. Is anyone here obligated to help you find RGB keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 16 January 2017, 05:25:41
    Quote from: Eris_ on Fri, 13 January 2017, 23:08:26
    Has anyone spotted an RGB 65% keyboard? Whenever I search "RGB 65% keyboard" it returns "Corsair K65 RGB compact". Something like the white fox, or this sexy thing: http://22kbd.com/173 (http://22kbd.com/173), but with full RGB lighting. Just a full RGB 65% keyboard with arrow keys, preferably with both a dedicated backspace and delete.
    https://amp.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4ciatx/guide_65_keyboards_what_they_are_and_where_to_get/

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4e5m2d/help_are_there_any_65_rgb_mechanical_keyboards/

    Maybe ask on r/mechanicalkeyboards rgb seems to get more attention there
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tiimoto on Thu, 19 January 2017, 04:52:33
    Looking to buy a KÛL ES-87 with cherry mx clears in the EU. So far, I couldn't find a reseller that thad them then in stock. Can you guys help me out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fublamchu on Thu, 19 January 2017, 08:27:46
    Really dumb question, but is there any danger to using magnetic screwdrivers when screwing in PCBs to cases? I keep dropping screws whenever I put cases in
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tobsn on Fri, 27 January 2017, 08:58:39
    Quote from: fublamchu on Thu, 19 January 2017, 08:27:46
    Really dumb question, but is there any danger to using magnetic screwdrivers when screwing in PCBs to cases? I keep dropping screws whenever I put cases in

    No, no danger, the magnetic powers of a screwdriver is barely enough to hold onto a screw. It's like asking if turning on your office fan will disturb nearby airplanes :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Tue, 31 January 2017, 16:43:34
    Quote from: tameone on Sun, 15 January 2017, 20:42:11
    Is the profile of Realforce caps too distinct from sculpture 2 on the fc660c to make an alpha swap (to the Leo) uncomfortable?
    they seem to fit fine, the texture on the top is a little different but if you swap all the alphas it'll probably be fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: catawalks on Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:44:14
    Does anyone know the name of this switch type or who makes it? Seems to be a triangular metal dome plate that collapses under the pressure of the spring (which has foam in the middle of it) as it is pressed down. The keyboard is branded by Mohawk Data Sciences and most of the ICs are dated 1982/83.

    (http://i.imgur.com/oYaAYtu.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:10:39
    Hello,

    Tried search bar and the whole "geekhack.org mysearchhere" option, but no luck.

    I guess my real problem is that the GMK Laser set coming out is so badass that it has inspired me to plunge into the depths of keyboard customization and wallet hell. But the issue I'm hoping to get assistance with from you fine folks is regarding ErgoDox EZ / Infinity, LED's and cases.

    What I'm ultimately trying to do is get an ErgoDox layout keyboard with 67g zealios (which I have already), acrylic case, black top plate and the option for LED's under the keys (not sure if I want white, cyan, magenta or a cyan/magenta combo yet). So here are my questions:


    I would very much appreciate any assistance, or any other related advice in general, toward the acquisition of this keyboard. FYI, the legendary kirkle8 will be helping me with the soldering.

    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:37:06
    Quote from: Koatl on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:10:39
    Hello,

    Tried search bar and the whole "geekhack.org mysearchhere" option, but no luck.

    I guess my real problem is that the GMK Laser set coming out is so badass that it has inspired me to plunge into the depths of keyboard customization and wallet hell. But the issue I'm hoping to get assistance with from you fine folks is regarding ErgoDox EZ / Infinity, LED's and cases.

    What I'm ultimately trying to do is get an ErgoDox layout keyboard with 67g zealios (which I have already), acrylic case, black top plate and the option for LED's under the keys (not sure if I want white, cyan, magenta or a cyan/magenta combo yet). So here are my questions:

    • Is it even possible for the ED EZ to be modded with LED's?
    • Does anyone out there produce clear acrylic cases for ED EZ?
    • Is the Infinity regularly available to purchase somewhere, or do I have to just hope I can buy one here or on the MM?

    I would very much appreciate any assistance, or any other related advice in general, toward the acquisition of this keyboard. FYI, the legendary kirkle8 will be helping me with the soldering.

    Thanks in advance!

    Well, here's my two cents. If the tenting option can be purchased independently of the EZ then maybe it can be modified to fit a Falbatech case. (http://falbatech.pl/prestashop/index.php?id_category=12&controller=category&id_lang=2) The cases are nearly identical only the EZ is injected molded ABS while Falbatech's case is CNC'd PVC. Things is; the EZ has a PCB but IIRC it was never designed for LEDs. I know that some people soldered LEDs to their Ergodox's before the Ergodox Infinity so there's that I guess. If I were you I would grab an Ergodox Infinity, add my own tenting through 3D printing, and have the plate hydro dipped. If you already requested soldering services why not go full tilt? As an added bonus there wouldn't be the need to desolder a bunch of switches. Like I said that's my take on the subject.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Fri, 03 February 2017, 10:55:39
    Thanks for your input. I'm definitely liking the CNC'd PVC case. I'll probably buy one of those if ED EZ PCB has the capacity for LED soldering. I hit up their customer service team.

    I've heard earlier model Infinity's actually don't have the capacity for LED, but newer ones do. I'll have to verify that. The Infinity certainly seems like an easier option, especially with 3D printing for tents.

    I'm hoping the ED EZ PCB can have LED's soldered in; it would be a more expensive and laborsome route, but it feels like the route I want to go if possible. But if it can't, time to hunt down an Infinity.

    I'll update this thread (and any other relevant one I can find) with my findings and results. I'd love to hear anyone else's thoughts on this too, if anyone is willing to share.

    UPDATE: Apparently from FalbaTech I can get a fully constructed clear case ErgoDox for less than $160. Seems too good to be true. I must be missing something.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 03 February 2017, 13:48:09
    God, what a horrid website. Every single picture obscured by "quick view". You know what's even quicker than quick view? LETTING ME SEE THE ****ING PICTURE YOU PUT ON THE PAGE!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ander on Fri, 03 February 2017, 15:58:15
    Quote from: Koatl on Fri, 03 February 2017, 10:55:39
    UPDATE: Apparently from FalbaTech I can get a fully constructed clear case ErgoDox for less than $160. Seems too good to be true. I must be missing something.

    It's true! Live the dream!


    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 03 February 2017, 13:48:09
    God, what a horrid website. Every single picture obscured by "quick view". You know what's even quicker than quick view? LETTING ME SEE THE ****ING PICTURE YOU PUT ON THE PAGE!!!

    Images are shown in their original posts; just not when they're part of quoted material. That's to prevent the same images from appearing over and over through a discussion. It gives people the choice whether to re-see the images.

    It'd be nice if there were an option in the forum settings not to do that by default, for those who didn't like it. But I can understand what the intention was.

    That said, I can appreciate a good rant as much as anybody. If we could connect ourselves to little generators whenever we felt a rant coming on, we could probably power our cities without burning fossil fuels.  :?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Fri, 03 February 2017, 19:10:24
    Quote from: ander on Fri, 03 February 2017, 15:58:15
    Quote from: Koatl on Fri, 03 February 2017, 10:55:39
    UPDATE: Apparently from FalbaTech I can get a fully constructed clear case ErgoDox for less than $160. Seems too good to be true. I must be missing something.

    It's true! Live the dream!

    Indeed! Those Polish have certainly got it right. I play D&D and just bought some dice from Poland, and they're the most amazing, beautiful dice I've ever seen. Guess I'm gonna have to make another purcahse from them.

    Now I just gotta find out if the ED PCB they sell is capable of in-switch LEDs. Getting closer to the goal!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 04 February 2017, 12:20:30
    Quote from: ander on Fri, 03 February 2017, 15:58:15
    Quote from: tofgerl on Fri, 03 February 2017, 13:48:09
    God, what a horrid website. Every single picture obscured by "quick view". You know what's even quicker than quick view? LETTING ME SEE THE ****ING PICTURE YOU PUT ON THE PAGE!!!

    Images are shown in their original posts; just not when they're part of quoted material. That's to prevent the same images from appearing over and over through a discussion. It gives people the choice whether to re-see the images.

    I'm talking about Falbatech's store.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: injectx on Sun, 05 February 2017, 09:16:36
    So I want to switch from my beloved Pok3r to a Varmilo VR68M.
    (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_1681_Varmilo_3.jpg)

    Searched the entire internet but I really don't know where to get it, anyone knows of any Varmilo resellers?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: haofu612 on Sun, 05 February 2017, 09:31:54
    Nice


    从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Sun, 05 February 2017, 19:45:47
    Quote from: csmertx on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:37:06
    have the plate hydro dipped.

    So things are going good. I've acquired a new-type Infinity with USB-C, which are the ones that are LED capable. But I'm curious, is there a specific reason you recommend hydro dipping instead of any other painting option? I just want the top plate solid black, which as far as I can see has no curvature which would really need hydro printing. Was looking into 3d printing for it, but no luck; only found ones for ED EZ, and I don't know if they're compatible. Tempted to just spray paint the plate, but figured I'd get two more cents from you first. ^__^

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 06 February 2017, 04:24:45
    Quote from: Koatl on Sun, 05 February 2017, 19:45:47
    Quote from: csmertx on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:37:06
    have the plate hydro dipped.

    So things are going good. I've acquired a new-type Infinity with USB-C, which are the ones that are LED capable. But I'm curious, is there a specific reason you recommend hydro dipping instead of any other painting option? I just want the top plate solid black, which as far as I can see has no curvature which would really need hydro printing. Was looking into 3d printing for it, but no luck; only found ones for ED EZ, and I don't know if they're compatible. Tempted to just spray paint the plate, but figured I'd get two more cents from you first. ^__^

    Thanks!

    You could buy a small sheet of opaque or clear black acrylic and have someone laser cut it for you. There are stl files available for anyone that wants to cut or print their own cases or case parts for the Infinity. And it obviously can be something other than acrylic. Perhaps have someone cut some aluminum and have it anodized matte or glossy black :cool:. Hydro dipping is probably cheaper than having someone laser cut a top piece and it doesn't require all that messy painting lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Mon, 06 February 2017, 20:18:43
    Quote from: csmertx on Mon, 06 February 2017, 04:24:45
    ...have someone laser cut it for you. There are stl files available for anyone that wants to cut or print their own cases or case parts for the Infinity.

    You must be a damn genius. Thank you! I think I may be able to go this route. Again, thanks so much!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 06 February 2017, 20:39:05
    Quote from: Koatl on Mon, 06 February 2017, 20:18:43
    Quote from: csmertx on Mon, 06 February 2017, 04:24:45
    ...have someone laser cut it for you. There are stl files available for anyone that wants to cut or print their own cases or case parts for the Infinity.

    You must be a damn genius. Thank you! I think I may be able to go this route. Again, thanks so much!

    Sure, post pics of the finished board :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Mon, 06 February 2017, 20:47:01
    Quote from: csmertx on Mon, 06 February 2017, 20:39:05
    Sure, post pics of the finished board :)

    Will do! ^__^

    This is such an interesting community and art. I just really took an interest in this stuff a few days ago and now (mostly thanks to the guidance of fatpolomanjr and many wonderful people like yourself) I'm well on my way to two ErgoDox's (one EZ with zealios, another Infinity with magenta LEDs as well as zealios), customized keycaps, a few artisans and hopefully soon some specific artisans from the top-tier designers.

    Fun fun!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Boskr on Wed, 08 February 2017, 09:14:17
    I recently got a Qisan MagicForce 68 as a daily driver for work, but first I replaced all the switches with Cherry Reds. I noticed while doing this that the entire board has LED holes, despite the Caps Lock key being the only switch with an LED by default.

    I've heard you can get this keyboard with LEDs, so I assume that's why the holes are there.

    My question is: Soldering in a switch LED does nothing at all, except for the caps lock key which already has one, and is only lit when CL is on. Does anyone know of a way to turn on the LED lighting functionality?

    I can provide high-res photos of the board on request.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tekteq on Wed, 08 February 2017, 14:08:52
    Does https://mechanicalkeyboards.com ship to Germany?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Boskr on Wed, 08 February 2017, 14:19:33
    Quote from: tekteq on Wed, 08 February 2017, 14:08:52
    Does https://mechanicalkeyboards.com ship to Germany?
    Had to do a small bit of digging, but I found this, from https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/customer_service.php?t=Do you ship Internationally? (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/customer_service.php?t=Do you ship Internationally?)

    Do you ship Internationally?

    Yes, Mechanical Keyboards Inc currently ships to all countries to which USPS and FedEx service. Please note that our shipping estimator may not work for your International Order, so you will want to proceed to checkout step 2 to see your shipping quote.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tekteq on Wed, 08 February 2017, 15:05:23
    Quote from: Boskr on Wed, 08 February 2017, 14:19:33
    Quote from: tekteq on Wed, 08 February 2017, 14:08:52
    Does https://mechanicalkeyboards.com ship to Germany?
    Had to do a small bit of digging, but I found this, from https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/customer_service.php?t=Do you ship Internationally? (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/customer_service.php?t=Do you ship Internationally?)

    Do you ship Internationally?

    Yes, Mechanical Keyboards Inc currently ships to all countries to which USPS and FedEx service. Please note that our shipping estimator may not work for your International Order, so you will want to proceed to checkout step 2 to see your shipping quote.

    Thanks a lot mate! I don't know why I didn't see it, was under the impression that there was a lot less information on their website when I tried to find.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: unoab on Thu, 09 February 2017, 01:37:47
    Quote from: Boskr on Wed, 08 February 2017, 09:14:17
    I recently got a Qisan MagicForce 68 as a daily driver for work, but first I replaced all the switches with Cherry Reds. I noticed while doing this that the entire board has LED holes, despite the Caps Lock key being the only switch with an LED by default.

    I've heard you can get this keyboard with LEDs, so I assume that's why the holes are there.

    My question is: Soldering in a switch LED does nothing at all, except for the caps lock key which already has one, and is only lit when CL is on. Does anyone know of a way to turn on the LED lighting functionality?

    I can provide high-res photos of the board on request.

    Check the PCB, most likely they didn't populate the resistors for any of the LEDs, no point adding cost if it is not needed on that built up model even if it is the same PCB.  If that is the case you would have to source the proper size and value resistors, solder them on, and hope there are no other parts of the LED backlighting that are unpopulated.

    just look here:
    Leslieann's how to thread for adding backlights (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79845.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Boskr on Thu, 09 February 2017, 10:42:00
    Quote from: unoab on Thu, 09 February 2017, 01:37:47
    Quote from: Boskr on Wed, 08 February 2017, 09:14:17
    I recently got a Qisan MagicForce 68 as a daily driver for work, but first I replaced all the switches with Cherry Reds. I noticed while doing this that the entire board has LED holes, despite the Caps Lock key being the only switch with an LED by default.

    I've heard you can get this keyboard with LEDs, so I assume that's why the holes are there.

    My question is: Soldering in a switch LED does nothing at all, except for the caps lock key which already has one, and is only lit when CL is on. Does anyone know of a way to turn on the LED lighting functionality?

    I can provide high-res photos of the board on request.

    Check the PCB, most likely they didn't populate the resistors for any of the LEDs, no point adding cost if it is not needed on that built up model even if it is the same PCB.  If that is the case you would have to source the proper size and value resistors, solder them on, and hope there are no other parts of the LED backlighting that are unpopulated.

    just look here:
    Leslieann's how to thread for adding backlights (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79845.0)
    Cheers mate, I'll check to see if I can get photos of the PCB on the LED version.

    EDIT: You are correct, it needs resistors for every switch, plus a small jumper lead off the 5v from the USB. Little too much work for me since I'm planning on a nicer 60% build anyway.

    Sent from my Google Pixel through space technology

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 09 February 2017, 13:56:28
     I have noticed that on a lot of some custom boards the enter key tends to get soldered in crooked. IS there a specific reason behind this? IS it as simple as warming up the solder, aligning, and then resoldering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tekteq on Thu, 09 February 2017, 15:38:52
    I'm still very new to this, so sorry if this question is stupid, I still didn't really understand it after reading a few threads: I've read that you can change switches on pcb mounted boards without desoldering and resoldering. Is this the case for all pcb-mounted boards or is it only for a few models?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: catawalks on Thu, 09 February 2017, 16:23:10
    Quote from: tekteq on Thu, 09 February 2017, 15:38:52
    I'm still very new to this, so sorry if this question is stupid, I still didn't really understand it after reading a few threads: I've read that you can change switches on pcb mounted boards without de-soldering and re-soldering. Is this the case for all pcb-mounted boards or is it only for a few models?

    Only a few models. Models labeled as "hot swap" designs have the ability to change switches without soldering. Models that are just PCB mount have the switches soldered and usually have a hole in the PCB where part of the switch sticks though to help hold it in place. Plate mount switches have tabs that hold the switch to a metal plate that stays above the PCB and the the switches are soldered to the PCB below.

    Also, not all plate mount switches are created equal, some require that you de-solder all the switches before you can remove a single switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 09 February 2017, 16:39:54
    Quote from: ArchDill on Thu, 09 February 2017, 13:56:28
    I have noticed that on a lot of some custom boards the enter key tends to get soldered in crooked. IS there a specific reason behind this? IS it as simple as warming up the solder, aligning, and then resoldering?

    I think that question depends on what custom board and the plate layout. It's certainly possible that the switch just needs to be reseated. I can imagine some ISO/ANSI compatible plates might have wacky cutouts that could cause things to not be held in place super well.

    Quote from: catawalks on Thu, 09 February 2017, 16:23:10
    Quote from: tekteq on Thu, 09 February 2017, 15:38:52
    I'm still very new to this, so sorry if this question is stupid, I still didn't really understand it after reading a few threads: I've read that you can change switches on pcb mounted boards without de-soldering and re-soldering. Is this the case for all pcb-mounted boards or is it only for a few models?

    Only a few models. Models labeled as "hot swap" designs have the ability to change switches without soldering. Models that are just PCB mount have the switches soldered and usually have a hole in the PCB where part of the switch sticks though to help hold it in place. Plate mount switches have tabs that hold the switch to a metal plate that stays above the PCB and the the switches are soldered to the PCB below.

    Also, not all plate mount switches are created equal, some require that you de-solder all the switches before you can remove a single switch.


    All PCB mount switches can be *opened* without desoldering, which effectively means you can change the switch type (swap stems and springs), though changing between manufacturers will probably be more problematic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 09 February 2017, 16:46:59
    Depends on the keyboard I guess. PCB mounted switches can be opened from the top with a switch top removal tool. Technically you can't remove the PCB mounted switches without soldering but you can usually change out the internals (spring/slider/top). Some clone sliders won't play nice with certain housings but the usual suspects seem to play nice with each other.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tekteq on Thu, 09 February 2017, 20:38:07
    Quote from: csmertx on Thu, 09 February 2017, 16:46:59
    Depends on the keyboard I guess. PCB mounted switches can be opened from the top with a switch top removal tool. Technically you can't remove the PCB mounted switches without soldering but you can usually change out the internals (spring/slider/top). Some clone sliders won't play nice with certain housings but the usual suspects seem to play nice with each other.

    Thanks a lot. For now I don't plan on using anything different than Cherry MX, so this shouldn't be a problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 09 February 2017, 22:50:19
    Quote from: tekteq on Thu, 09 February 2017, 15:38:52
    I'm still very new to this, so sorry if this question is stupid, I still didn't really understand it after reading a few threads: I've read that you can change switches on pcb mounted boards without desoldering and resoldering. Is this the case for all pcb-mounted boards or is it only for a few models?

    PCB soldered switches allow you to change the stem and the springs by opening the top cover, but if you want to change the full switch it should be desoldered. You can get a PCB and use dip sockets to allow changing the switch with no desoldering needed. Also, some plates haave slots in the proper positions around the switch window to allow switch tops removal.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: happylacquer on Sun, 12 February 2017, 21:24:12
    Cheapest PS2 cable donor without breaking one of my (fully working) boards?

    Was thinking a ps2 extension cable with one end cut off...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 12 February 2017, 21:26:35
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: happylacquer on Sun, 12 February 2017, 23:02:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sun, 12 February 2017, 21:26:35
    Quote from: happylacquer on Sun, 12 February 2017, 21:24:12
    Cheapest PS2 cable donor without breaking one of my (fully working) boards?

    Was thinking a ps2 extension cable with one end cut off...?

    lol I just through out like 3 or 4 coiled AT cables in great shape RIP

    hehe oops
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 14 February 2017, 04:43:10
    Best way to have a plate cut so they snap in real good? Laser, water, psychic blast?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ReverbSlush on Wed, 15 February 2017, 07:40:36
    Are there any advantages to soldering over using Holtite (hotswap) sockets ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 15 February 2017, 21:41:17
    Quote from: ReverbSlush on Wed, 15 February 2017, 07:40:36
    Are there any advantages to soldering over using Holtite (hotswap) sockets ?

    Price
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 15 February 2017, 22:17:12
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 15 February 2017, 21:41:17
    Quote from: ReverbSlush on Wed, 15 February 2017, 07:40:36
    Are there any advantages to soldering over using Holtite (hotswap) sockets ?

    Price

    Using a plate with slots for top switch removal is a far better option than having sockets. It makes an more reliable switch installation while it still allows flexibility to change the switch internals to try different spring, stems, tops combinations. Even PCB soldered switches are better than sockets, unless what you want to have is a big full size switch tester.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 15 February 2017, 22:20:30
    I'm still thinking theres going to be a durability issue in the long run for people like me that want to change switches often. We'll see though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 15 February 2017, 23:04:25
    Quote from: OfTheWild on Wed, 15 February 2017, 22:20:30
    I'm still thinking theres going to be a durability issue in the long run for people like me that want to change switches often. We'll see though.
    Just do what we all do

    Buy more keyboards lol

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 16 February 2017, 08:00:18
    Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 15 February 2017, 23:04:25
    Quote from: OfTheWild on Wed, 15 February 2017, 22:20:30
    I'm still thinking theres going to be a durability issue in the long run for people like me that want to change switches often. We'll see though.
    Just do what we all do

    Buy more keyboards lol

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
    I see no problems with this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 16 February 2017, 08:28:14
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Tue, 14 February 2017, 04:43:10
    Best way to have a plate cut so they snap in real good? Laser, water, psychic blast?

    Higher precision machining will get you more accurate results. Laser is more precise than waterjet. However I just had a waterjet plate cut and the switches snap in just fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 16 February 2017, 10:21:13
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Thu, 16 February 2017, 08:28:14
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Tue, 14 February 2017, 04:43:10
    Best way to have a plate cut so they snap in real good? Laser, water, psychic blast?

    Higher precision machining will get you more accurate results. Laser is more precise than waterjet. However I just had a waterjet plate cut and the switches snap in just fine.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 16 February 2017, 10:56:47
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Thu, 16 February 2017, 10:21:13
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Thu, 16 February 2017, 08:28:14
    Quote from: stoic-lemon on Tue, 14 February 2017, 04:43:10
    Best way to have a plate cut so they snap in real good? Laser, water, psychic blast?

    Higher precision machining will get you more accurate results. Laser is more precise than waterjet. However I just had a waterjet plate cut and the switches snap in just fine.

    Thanks!

    Oh and if you're not aware thickness of the plate I think is quite important for proper "snapping". I think 1.5mm is the Cherry standard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tintoret on Thu, 16 February 2017, 13:44:08
    Am I going to run into any problems, presumably with differences in wire specs, in trying to convert an ADB cable into a USB cable? That is, removing the connectors from the ADB cable and soldering the four wires into the pins of USB-A and Mini-B connectors?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: robbles on Thu, 16 February 2017, 14:34:18
    What kinds of macros are popular amongst Geekhack? I've had programmable boards in the past but never really knew what to do with them. I'm sure that I'm just thinking about it incorrectly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 17 February 2017, 13:14:24
    Well, spacefn... Passwords... The Hyper-key for shortcuts... What else... I'm thinking of making one that sends both the mac and the windows play/pause signals...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Fri, 17 February 2017, 14:27:20
    Anyone know if Atreus62's with pointing stick are purchasable?

    Or maybe I should ask in the Ergonomics forum?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ezekial on Fri, 17 February 2017, 22:12:58
    Hello,
    I've been pondering a project. My previous keyboard crapped out and it was a dome mesh combo from the 90s (gateway 2000 keyboard). I recently thought of converting the innards to a mechanical keyboard, knowing that I need a pcb, and there are integrated pcbs out there I know, such as the NerD 108 PCB. How would you recommend going about retrofitting this to work? Are most keyboards a standard size to where I can use the NerD pcb? I understand I would need to get a plate for the switches because it's more stable, are there standard plates out there, or should I custom CNC them?
    http://seelowprices.com/2014/10/08/28528372/1b.jpg
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: happylacquer on Sat, 18 February 2017, 00:30:08
    What kind of springs would I buy to increase the key weight on my buckling spring board? I don't have calipers or I would measure my own springs. Luckily replacing the springs on these switches is as easy as possible, so I'm willing to do it...

    I'm looking to make them around 1.5-2x as stiff.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rekoba on Sat, 18 February 2017, 02:28:21
    Hello , i have a "problem" with my Logitech G19 since i got it very cheap as you can guess its used keyboard but everything works. So only how should i say it , problem is that the keys are woobly and somehow loose ,they move too much,  you can see that they are very very used. So i am wondering is there any chance to fix or repair it, is it maybe something with the rubber beneath them? I would really appreciative any help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 February 2017, 08:08:11
    Quote from: happylacquer on Sat, 18 February 2017, 00:30:08
    What kind of springs would I buy to increase the key weight on my buckling spring board? I don't have calipers or I would measure my own springs. Luckily replacing the springs on these switches is as easy as possible, so I'm willing to do it...

    I'm looking to make them around 1.5-2x as stiff.
    I don't think what you want exists.

    Not saying it is impossible but I don't think anyone has ever had any made.

    You might check in the huge model f group buy thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 18 February 2017, 17:22:19
    Quote from: Rekoba on Sat, 18 February 2017, 02:28:21
    Hello , i have a "problem" with my Logitech G19 since i got it very cheap as you can guess its used keyboard but everything works. So only how should i say it , problem is that the keys are woobly and somehow loose ,they move too much,  you can see that they are very very used. So i am wondering is there any chance to fix or repair it, is it maybe something with the rubber beneath them? I would really appreciative any help.

    The rubber domes wouldn't cause the keys to be loose, it'd be an issue with the sliders above them. I don't know much about G19s (or anything really) but they may just be like that stock.

    Best solution to the problem would be buying a cheap mech instead of a trashed old rubberdome board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: happylacquer on Sat, 18 February 2017, 17:24:36
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 February 2017, 08:08:11
    Quote from: happylacquer on Sat, 18 February 2017, 00:30:08
    What kind of springs would I buy to increase the key weight on my buckling spring board? I don't have calipers or I would measure my own springs. Luckily replacing the springs on these switches is as easy as possible, so I'm willing to do it...

    I'm looking to make them around 1.5-2x as stiff.
    I don't think what you want exists.

    Not saying it is impossible but I don't think anyone has ever had any made.

    You might check in the huge model f group buy thread.

    TYVM, will check there, but yeah I don't have my hopes up.

    I googled it and found a few threads scattered around the internet with people asking my question. unfortunately, they were either looking for lighter springs, or the ones who wanted heavier ones like me just had people being like "wtf why?"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Radlife on Sat, 18 February 2017, 21:09:23
    I have a question about the TX87 (I built mine just a moment ago). Are there any tutorials on how to use Leeku's Jigon software? I'm looking to turn off the RGB lighting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rekoba on Sun, 19 February 2017, 02:59:33
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Sat, 18 February 2017, 17:22:19
    Quote from: Rekoba on Sat, 18 February 2017, 02:28:21
    Hello , i have a "problem" with my Logitech G19 since i got it very cheap as you can guess its used keyboard but everything works. So only how should i say it , problem is that the keys are woobly and somehow loose ,they move too much,  you can see that they are very very used. So i am wondering is there any chance to fix or repair it, is it maybe something with the rubber beneath them? I would really appreciative any help.

    The rubber domes wouldn't cause the keys to be loose, it'd be an issue with the sliders above them. I don't know much about G19s (or anything really) but they may just be like that stock.

    Best solution to the problem would be buying a cheap mech instead of a trashed old rubberdome board.
    Ok, but what do you think would it help if i open it up and try maybe to straiten the rubber or do something like that. When i got it i pop up every key to clean them , but i have not noticed something unusual but they still are very loose and woobly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ander on Sun, 19 February 2017, 03:44:57
    Can Donald Trump really be that clueless, or do you think this is all just a set-up for a new reality TV show?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Sun, 19 February 2017, 05:27:39
    *Googles how to use a fire extinguisher*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 19 February 2017, 07:43:56
    Quote from: ander on Sun, 19 February 2017, 03:44:57
    Can Donald Trump really be that clueless, or do you think this is all just a set-up for a new reality TV show?
    No, he's winging it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 19 February 2017, 08:41:36
    Quote from: happylacquer on Sat, 18 February 2017, 00:30:08
    What kind of springs would I buy to increase the key weight on my buckling spring board? I don't have calipers or I would measure my own springs. Luckily replacing the springs on these switches is as easy as possible, so I'm willing to do it...

    I'm looking to make them around 1.5-2x as stiff.

    I don't know how easy it is to replace springs unless you are doing a bolt mod anyway.

    Here is something that I stumbled across but never went farther:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84830.msg2267781#msg2267781 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84830.msg2267781#msg2267781)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Sun, 19 February 2017, 18:27:21
    Quote from: Radlife on Sat, 18 February 2017, 21:09:23
    I have a question about the TX87 (I built mine just a moment ago). Are there any tutorials on how to use Leeku's Jigon software? I'm looking to turn off the RGB lighting.

    You can set them to black.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 19 February 2017, 21:05:07
    Quote from: tintoret on Thu, 16 February 2017, 13:44:08
    Am I going to run into any problems, presumably with differences in wire specs, in trying to convert an ADB cable into a USB cable? That is, removing the connectors from the ADB cable and soldering the four wires into the pins of USB-A and Mini-B connectors?

    Shouldn't really be a problem. As long as you hook the proper wires up you can use any wires assuming they don't have some kind of crazy resistance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 08:28:15
    Quote from: ander on Sun, 19 February 2017, 03:44:57
    Can Donald Trump really be that clueless, or do you think this is all just a set-up for a new reality TV show?

    Simple Questions. There is no simple answer lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 20 February 2017, 08:58:32
    Quote from: ander on Sun, 19 February 2017, 03:44:57
    Can Donald Trump really be that clueless, or do you think this is all just a set-up for a new reality TV show?

    Well, he is clueless about what government is, how it operates, and the rule of law. And isn't "reality TV show" an oxymoron?

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568 (http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 09:07:38
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 February 2017, 15:57:57
    Anyone have any tricks or tips when it comes to trimming the legs on a keyboards worth of LEDs to use in sip sockets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:00:03
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 February 2017, 15:57:57
    Anyone have any tricks or tips when it comes to trimming the legs on a keyboards worth of LEDs to use in sip sockets?

    Courtesy of Photo_E: https://www.flickr.com/photos/photoelectric_effect/13136031895/in/album-72157642317342363/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cutterline on Wed, 22 February 2017, 22:12:17
    Does anyone know taobao seller link for mx silent red?

    I tried searching with keyword 'cherry 静音" but couldn't find any seller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wimpeh on Sat, 25 February 2017, 13:52:30
    I bought this 75% plate (https://world.taobao.com/item/541874913401.htm) from taobao, hoping to be able to make a handwired keyboard out of it. Now I'm stuck on what stabilizers to use for it. Plate mounted won't work. Any ideas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 26 February 2017, 06:11:55
    Is it possible to buy those GMK trays with the plastic fasteners? What do they cost?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 26 February 2017, 07:23:29
    Quote from: wimpeh on Sat, 25 February 2017, 13:52:30
    I bought this 75% plate (https://world.taobao.com/item/541874913401.htm) from taobao, hoping to be able to make a handwired keyboard out of it. Now I'm stuck on what stabilizers to use for it. Plate mounted won't work. Any ideas?

    You can't handwire with that. You'll need a PCB and PCB mount stabs.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 February 2017, 15:57:57
    Anyone have any tricks or tips when it comes to trimming the legs on a keyboards worth of LEDs to use in sip sockets?

    I've heard solder first, trim afterwards.

    Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 26 February 2017, 06:11:55
    Is it possible to buy those GMK trays with the plastic fasteners? What do they cost?

    I believe only with keysets, but you could try emailing them and finding out what the MOQ is. Might also be worth asking someone that's bought them with a GB before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Halverson on Mon, 27 February 2017, 21:17:00
    Anyone know what screws LZ boards use to screw down the plate to the case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 28 February 2017, 08:10:07
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 26 February 2017, 07:23:29
    I believe only with keysets, but you could try emailing them and finding out what the MOQ is. Might also be worth asking someone that's bought them with a GB before.
    There was an aborted IC where the sum of $7 was mentioned, now that I searched... But I don't have the time or energy to run a GB. I'd buy at least 10 if someone did, though...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LeCado on Tue, 28 February 2017, 17:02:41
    What's the cheapest SA keyset?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: isoco on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:07:45
    What are some good ways of reducing key-ratlle? Is there a guide somewhere? I have tried gluing and shimming rattling stabs and loose fitting key-houses and even used tape  :-[
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:22:38
    Quote from: LeCado on Tue, 28 February 2017, 17:02:41
    What's the cheapest SA keyset?
    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2076

    Also found here

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/double_shot_filco_104_key_usa_keyset.asp

    You can also check keyboardco for additional layouts.

    Also many have successfully removed the included costar inserts without issue.




    Quote from: isoco on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:07:45
    What are some good ways of reducing key-ratlle? Is there a guide somewhere? I have tried gluing and shimming rattling stabs and loose fitting key-houses and even used tape  :-[

    What keyboard and/or switch/stabilizer type?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LeCado on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:29:23
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:22:38
    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2076

    Also found here

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/double_shot_filco_104_key_usa_keyset.asp

    You can also check keyboardco for additional layouts.

    Also many have successfully removed the included costar inserts without issue.

    Thank you! I'm still searching for the German Filco SA set, since it seems it's out of stock for ages..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GwenDR on Mon, 06 March 2017, 09:24:49
    I want to find a white RGB keyboard, no macro keys, smaller is better, for under $200, that's good quality. Something aesthetically similar to the Year of the Goat. Seems that everything was a limited edition from a couple of years ago, and is no longer available. Any good recommendations?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:36:20
    Anyone know if this is a steel plate for the rs III ? Or that it is at least thicker/sturdier than the stock plate?
    https://world.taobao.com/item/523030912258.htm#detail

    The rs iii has an aluminum plate, in my experience they are softer than steel plates.

    edit: i also see that you can buy a carbon plate for the rs96 on tabao is that a sturdy plate? I don't want the plate to give in at all, I want it to be hard like stock steel plates on most keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: doom2 on Mon, 13 March 2017, 08:51:43
    Where does the MIT ortho layout get its name? The only keyboard I've found with a connection to the university is the space cadet keyboard used on old LISP machines.

    Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 15 March 2017, 09:17:03
    I need a replacement PCB for my Butterfly Pad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53348.0). Now, there is a replacement available on the Kbd4u.co.kr (http://www.kbd4u.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=27&cate_no=38&display_group=1) website, but I have a hard time understanding the ordering process and Google Translate isn't helping too much either.

    Are there services on here that can help with this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Thu, 16 March 2017, 13:44:21
    In the past, I've seen people put mattes inside the keyboards to lessen the sound. I have a G80-1800 which is mostly empty space. What kind of material would make for good filler? I have no idea what to begin searching for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sempre on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:35:02
    Quote from: Acerk on Thu, 16 March 2017, 13:44:21
    In the past, I've seen people put mattes inside the keyboards to lessen the sound. I have a G80-1800 which is mostly empty space. What kind of material would make for good filler? I have no idea what to begin searching for.


    I've read clay is a good sound dampener
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:54:52
    Quote from: Sempre on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:35:02

    I've read clay is a good sound dampener


    Hey, that makes sense. It is pretty dense and would have absolutely no resonance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: klennkellon on Fri, 17 March 2017, 20:54:10
    I'm looking for some nice keycaps for my new keyboard.

    What Cherry keyboards should I be looking for if I want those old thick Doubleshots or even the POM keycaps? I'm thinking I might be able to get a full set of keycaps and a keyboard for around the same price as just a keycap set.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 20:58:46
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: BenV62 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 22:53:06
    being new to this, i want to build my own keyboard. I was looking at a phantom or something bigger than a 60%. How do i know if the board is capable of back lighting on the keys or would these ( https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2229 ) work if it isnt backlighting capable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ander on Tue, 21 March 2017, 05:07:42
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 09:07:38
    Keyboards subforum... go to off topic to rant please.

    But that's exactly the point we were trying to make about Trump: Having someone as classless and clueless as he in the White House is so disturbing, it affects everything, even keyboard discussions. It's that bad. We can only pray he gets kicked out before he does too much damage, so we can return to thinking about fun, non-disturbing things like keyboards again. If that's not a clear connection to keyboards, I don't know what is.


    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:22:38
    Quote from: LeCado on Tue, 28 February 2017, 17:02:41
    What's the cheapest SA keyset?

    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2076

    Also found here

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/double_shot_filco_104_key_usa_keyset.asp

    Those are SA sets? I thought SA meant big retro-look alphas smack in the middle of the keys, like these (https://www.google.ca/search?q=sa+keyset&num=30&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5gPbzq-fSAhUY0mMKHUwcBPUQ_AUICCgB). Not that I know what SA actually means—does anybody? Hey, that's actually a keyboard question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 March 2017, 06:00:28
    Quote from: ander on Tue, 21 March 2017, 05:07:42
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:22:38
    Quote from: LeCado on Tue, 28 February 2017, 17:02:41
    What's the cheapest SA keyset?

    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2076

    Also found here

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/double_shot_filco_104_key_usa_keyset.asp

    Those are SA sets? I thought SA meant big retro-look alphas smack in the middle of the keys, like these (https://www.google.ca/search?q=sa+keyset&num=30&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5gPbzq-fSAhUY0mMKHUwcBPUQ_AUICCgB). Not that I know what SA actually means—does anybody? Hey, that's actually a keyboard question.

    SA is a signature plastics keycap profile/family.

    www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hking0036 on Tue, 21 March 2017, 08:52:33
    Quote from: ander on Tue, 21 March 2017, 05:07:42
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 09:07:38
    Keyboards subforum... go to off topic to rant please.

    But that's exactly the point we were trying to make about Trump: Having someone as classless and clueless as he in the White House is so disturbing, it affects everything, even keyboard discussions. It's that bad. We can only pray he gets kicked out before he does too much damage, so we can return to thinking about fun, non-disturbing things like keyboards again. If that's not a clear connection to keyboards, I don't know what is.


    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:22:38
    Quote from: LeCado on Tue, 28 February 2017, 17:02:41
    What's the cheapest SA keyset?

    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2076

    Also found here

    http://www.keyboardco.com/product/double_shot_filco_104_key_usa_keyset.asp

    Those are SA sets? I thought SA meant big retro-look alphas smack in the middle of the keys, like these (https://www.google.ca/search?q=sa+keyset&num=30&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5gPbzq-fSAhUY0mMKHUwcBPUQ_AUICCgB). Not that I know what SA actually means—does anybody? Hey, that's actually a keyboard question.
    This is a thread about asking keyboard related questions that don't deserve their own thread, not starting a political debate. Please stop trying to stir the pot.

    SA refers to the key profile, the tall caps SP makes. The legending is separate, but it costs extra to get a new legend made for injection molding so most go for default. I'm not sure how this applies to alignment of the legend, so there's a possibility people just favor the centered for the look. SP is making dyesub pbt now where it's just a matter of printing, so SA as a profile should become more diverse over time (hopefully). So, profile is about the shape of caps. DSA is the short variant of sa, dcs is sp cylindrical.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zutroy on Wed, 22 March 2017, 07:46:25
    Can anyone tell me (from experience) whether switch tops can be removed on a Magicforce 68 without desoldering all the switches?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 22 March 2017, 08:00:30
    Quote from: zutroy on Wed, 22 March 2017, 07:46:25
    Can anyone tell me (from experience) whether switch tops can be removed on a Magicforce 68 without desoldering all the switches?

    Thanks.

    My experience is looking at the plate and seeing if there are holes.

    (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3d/4b/02/3d4b0229282597cd9c86ae4f20d5487f.jpg)

    There are none. You cannot take the tops of without desoldering.

    Plates that allow switch opening will have cutouts like this:

    (http://i.imgur.com/OftmqsW.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fublamchu on Sat, 25 March 2017, 08:51:27
    How does one fix a Topre stabilizer that makes the key stick if you don't press it directly in the center?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 27 March 2017, 04:49:10
    Is it possible to get GMK keysets with a different/thicker font?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 27 March 2017, 09:56:04
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 27 March 2017, 04:49:10
    Is it possible to get GMK keysets with a different/thicker font?

    No
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Slippin Jimmy on Thu, 30 March 2017, 20:03:44
    Why aren't TMX stems more prevalent, considering that they're the best of both worlds?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 March 2017, 20:56:18
    Quote from: Slippin Jimmy on Thu, 30 March 2017, 20:03:44
    Why aren't TMX stems more prevalent, considering that they're the best of both worlds?
    In reference to artisan caps?

    The biggest reason is it is hard to get the  perfect balance between having a good fit and also longterm stability.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rizzard on Fri, 31 March 2017, 09:39:43
    Hello, I want to buy my first mechanical keyboard and need help with choosing. The one without numeric part i think thats Tkl, idk switches but i like blue sound so blue, RGB, from EU shop im from Czech Rep.(taxes here are awful), around 110£ / 130€ i count with shipping but if shipping will be free i can go around 130£/150€.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 31 March 2017, 17:59:41
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 March 2017, 20:56:18
    Quote from: Slippin Jimmy on Thu, 30 March 2017, 20:03:44
    Why aren't TMX stems more prevalent, considering that they're the best of both worlds?
    In reference to artisan caps?

    The biggest reason is it is hard to get the  perfect balance between having a good fit and also longterm stability.

    This is pretty accurate, developing the perfect TMX and producing it requires really tight tolerances for the caps to work well with both MX and Topre. As far as a larger scale production goes the issue comes down to the stem inserts being very expensive to produce due to the complexity of a well designed TMX stem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 01 April 2017, 06:08:27
    That said, the first GMK set with TMX stems will sell like ****...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 April 2017, 09:43:40
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 01 April 2017, 06:08:27
    That said, the first GMK set with TMX stems will sell like ****...
    You don't mess with the caps you change the stems on your keyboard because those actually exist.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 01 April 2017, 10:32:24
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 01 April 2017, 10:56:11
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 April 2017, 09:43:40
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 01 April 2017, 06:08:27
    That said, the first GMK set with TMX stems will sell like ****...
    You don't mess with the caps you change the stems on your keyboard because those actually exist.
    Too complicated for most people.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 April 2017, 11:26:31
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 01 April 2017, 10:56:11
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 April 2017, 09:43:40
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 01 April 2017, 06:08:27
    That said, the first GMK set with TMX stems will sell like ****...
    You don't mess with the caps you change the stems on your keyboard because those actually exist.
    Too complicated for most people.

    You take some screws out carefully separate the layers and pop out the sliders put the new ones in then carefully put it all back together, yeah you have to watch out for the rubber sheet and springs under it but if you are careful it doesn't get much easier.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 05 April 2017, 12:25:48
    The eternal question: where can I buy non-artisan topre keycaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 05 April 2017, 12:31:47
    Quote from: elcubismo on Wed, 05 April 2017, 12:25:48
    The eternal question: where can I buy non-artisan topre keycaps?

    https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys)

    search ebay.com

    try the classifieds here

    or r/mechmarket
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 05 April 2017, 14:57:10
    Quote from: alienman82 on Sat, 01 April 2017, 10:32:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 April 2017, 09:43:40
    Quote from: tofgerl on Sat, 01 April 2017, 06:08:27
    That said, the first GMK set with TMX stems will sell like ****...
    You don't mess with the caps you change the stems on your keyboard because those actually exist.

    yeah the JTK sliders are now like $40 and will work with any mx set.  plus new molds for GMK would be expensive

    I've been thinking about this lately. Plastic injection molds don't last forever so GMK already has to pay for new molds and work the swap time into their production schedules. If TMX for injection molding was prototyped by the community so GMK only needs to change the stems in their molds it shouldn't be too much of a change in price because it can be swapped in when the molds are ready to be changed out.

    This doesn't change the fact that they don't really need to be making TMX keycaps but I think it'd be possible to defend the idea from a financial standpoint in the long run.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 11 April 2017, 14:14:59
    Will a HASU controller work with an HHKB Pro 1?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 April 2017, 14:19:07
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 11 April 2017, 14:14:59
    Will a HASU controller work with an HHKB Pro 1?

    Looks like there is one specifically for the Pro 1

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73176.0

    and in this OP

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71517.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 11 April 2017, 15:09:09
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 April 2017, 14:19:07
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 11 April 2017, 14:14:59
    Will a HASU controller work with an HHKB Pro 1?

    Looks like there is one specifically for the Pro 1

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73176.0

    and in this OP

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71517.0

    Thanks, guess I'll have to find one of those.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 April 2017, 15:13:53
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 11 April 2017, 15:09:09
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 April 2017, 14:19:07
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 11 April 2017, 14:14:59
    Will a HASU controller work with an HHKB Pro 1?

    Looks like there is one specifically for the Pro 1

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73176.0

    and in this OP

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71517.0

    Thanks, guess I'll have to find one of those.

    You should be able to get one directly from Hasu if you can't find one elsewhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OneNightFriend on Thu, 13 April 2017, 12:58:12
    Is there a keyboard that has a layout similar to the VE.A but isn't a split keyboard? Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 13 April 2017, 13:29:48
    Quote from: OneNightFriend on Thu, 13 April 2017, 12:58:12
    Is there a keyboard that has a layout similar to the VE.A but isn't a split keyboard? Thanks in advance!

    Put the two halves together! You're welcome ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xbathoryx13 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 23:20:06
    Hello all!  Long time keyboard enthutiast, first time writer, (as you can read with most likely many spell errors,lol) Where can I purchase Cherry MX Springs in the US?  Preferbaly 150 or 180g? Thee only place I see them online and for sale is at I think Mechanicalkeyboards.com. But they only have up to 85g springs. They did however carry those ones a month or so back made by I think SpIrit. But they seem to not carry them anymore.  :(. Please let me know guys! Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 18 April 2017, 23:27:35
    Wrong subforum

    dunno about super heavy springs like that, but might be worth checking the classifieds
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xbathoryx13 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 23:32:37
    oh my bad, see I am new here, and dont know the tricks of the trade around here and how you post and whatnot. Thanks anyways!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DALExSNAIL on Wed, 19 April 2017, 12:37:34
    Kinda newb question, but im at work and can't search like I would at home.

    Building a phantom With tex case and phantom plate from MK.com, what stabs can i use. looks like only costar, but possibly plate mount cherry? Asking for the person making this as Im a super newb and do not build myself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 April 2017, 12:40:03
    Quote from: DudeSnail on Wed, 19 April 2017, 12:37:34
    Kinda newb question, but im at work and can't search like I would at home.

    Building a phantom With tex case and phantom plate from MK.com, what stabs can i use. looks like only costar, but possibly plate mount cherry? Asking for the person making this as Im a super newb and do not build myself.

    Plate mounted cherry or costar are the only options with the phantom.

    If going with plate mounted cherry you'll want to install those before the switches, costar doesn't matter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 19 April 2017, 18:52:04
    Should I lube my Vintage Black switches?

    Which Lubricant is the best for linear switches?

    Thanks!  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 19 April 2017, 19:23:09
    Quote from: oatmicro on Wed, 19 April 2017, 18:52:04
    Should I lube my Vintage Black switches?

    Which Lubricant is the best for linear switches?

    Thanks!  :)

    Yes you should.

    Thin lube for the rails of the stem. https://techkeys.us/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 20 April 2017, 19:22:58
    Has anyone figured out the best replacement for stock HHKB spacebar springs? I realized yesterday that my Pro 1 is missing the spring and it makes space way too light, I made my own using some wire but I'd prefer to have an actual spring in there.

    I know I've seen threads about it but I'm not sure what was figured out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Sat, 22 April 2017, 05:22:26
    What kind of connector do you need inside the Leeku MX1800?

    I would like something like this
    https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/all/products/filco-keyboard-mods (https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/all/products/filco-keyboard-mods)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 06:23:07
    Quote from: Acerk on Sat, 22 April 2017, 05:22:26
    What kind of connector do you need inside the Leeku MX1800?

    I would like something like this
    https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/all/products/filco-keyboard-mods (https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/all/products/filco-keyboard-mods)

    It's mini USB connector & 4 pin (2.54mm) connector. Filco cables is 5 pin connector.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: moonmaster on Sat, 22 April 2017, 17:18:35
    Are vintage blacks better if lubed? Is there any danger in lubing them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 17:32:51
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Sat, 22 April 2017, 17:47:50
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 20 April 2017, 19:22:58
    Has anyone figured out the best replacement for stock HHKB spacebar springs? I realized yesterday that my Pro 1 is missing the spring and it makes space way too light, I made my own using some wire but I'd prefer to have an actual spring in there.

    I know I've seen threads about it but I'm not sure what was figured out.
    This doesn't really answer your question, but before cooler master discontinued the novatouch I requested a spacebar on their parts / rma site and was sent a new spacebar and it came with one of those springs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombimuncha on Sun, 23 April 2017, 14:58:19
    Handwired Alps - possible?
    What about with an acrylic plate?
    And without hot glue?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: razen on Thu, 27 April 2017, 17:51:36
    Hello there,
    Keyboard Newbie here nice to meet you guys :)
    I found laying in an old garage we had two chinese Magitronic keyboards
    With blue,cherry clones?, switches.

    Here are 3 photos

    http://imgur.com/a/hP0fg

    Tried both of them with a din5 to ps2 adapter like that one
    http://bentronics.com/images/225/1128.jpg

    But none of them worked none on AT or XT switch.
    So i got a couple of questions regarding their future.
    I like the idea of using an old mechanical keyboard, infact that was the reason i've gone to search for them :D
    But I don't feel allright with the windows key missing(I've always have a use for it even in linux)
    and definately i would like to "Pimp" it a little bit.
    So since those two keyboards are not working i would like to build a new one.
    Also since i have two keyboards i would like to add some more buttons on the left side
    Something like 122key IBM model m.
    As a newb i have read so many things on the last days so i got confused a little bit and dunno from where to start that project.
    Any help would be appreciated :)
    (Sorry for the long post, if it doesn't belong here please delete it but didn't wanted to make new thread for my first post)



    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 27 April 2017, 19:25:03
    Quote from: razen on Thu, 27 April 2017, 17:51:36
    Hello there,
    Keyboard Newbie here nice to meet you guys :)
    I found laying in an old garage we had two chinese Magitronic keyboards
    With blue,cherry clones?, switches.

    Here are 3 photos

    http://imgur.com/a/hP0fg

    Tried both of them with a din5 to ps2 adapter like that one
    http://bentronics.com/images/225/1128.jpg

    But none of them worked none on AT or XT switch.
    So i got a couple of questions regarding their future.
    I like the idea of using an old mechanical keyboard, infact that was the reason i've gone to search for them :D
    But I don't feel allright with the windows key missing(I've always have a use for it even in linux)
    and definately i would like to "Pimp" it a little bit.
    So since those two keyboards are not working i would like to build a new one.
    Also since i have two keyboards i would like to add some more buttons on the left side
    Something like 122key IBM model m.
    As a newb i have read so many things on the last days so i got confused a little bit and dunno from where to start that project.
    Any help would be appreciated :)
    (Sorry for the long post, if it doesn't belong here please delete it but didn't wanted to make new thread for my first post)
    Keep an eye on this.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88063.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmba on Fri, 28 April 2017, 00:04:16
    Quote from: moonmaster on Sat, 22 April 2017, 17:18:35
    Are vintage blacks better if lubed? Is there any danger in lubing them?


    yes, yes they are.  every linear switch is!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Fri, 28 April 2017, 11:00:40
    Quote from: zombimuncha on Sun, 23 April 2017, 14:58:19
    Handwired Alps - possible?
    What about with an acrylic plate?
    And without hot glue?

    Yes, if done properly.
    Yes, if done properly.
    Yes, if done properly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Sun, 30 April 2017, 08:00:32
    Quote from: quochung1989 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 06:23:07
    It's mini USB connector & 4 pin (2.54mm) connector. Filco cables is 5 pin connector.
    I'm a bit late because I forgot to check the thread. Thank you very much!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: razen on Sun, 30 April 2017, 19:45:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 27 April 2017, 19:25:03
    Quote from: razen on Thu, 27 April 2017, 17:51:36
    Hello there,
    Keyboard Newbie here nice to meet you guys :)
    I found laying in an old garage we had two chinese Magitronic keyboards
    With blue,cherry clones?, switches.

    Here are 3 photos

    http://imgur.com/a/hP0fg

    Tried both of them with a din5 to ps2 adapter like that one
    http://bentronics.com/images/225/1128.jpg

    But none of them worked none on AT or XT switch.
    So i got a couple of questions regarding their future.
    I like the idea of using an old mechanical keyboard, infact that was the reason i've gone to search for them :D
    But I don't feel allright with the windows key missing(I've always have a use for it even in linux)
    and definately i would like to "Pimp" it a little bit.
    So since those two keyboards are not working i would like to build a new one.
    Also since i have two keyboards i would like to add some more buttons on the left side
    Something like 122key IBM model m.
    As a newb i have read so many things on the last days so i got confused a little bit and dunno from where to start that project.
    Any help would be appreciated :)
    (Sorry for the long post, if it doesn't belong here please delete it but didn't wanted to make new thread for my first post)
    Keep an eye on this.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88063.0

    Thanks for that link, i checked further to newer editions and its very interesting!
    But i guess the production will be not soon as op said its gonna be afk for a while and also will make a new orded of 10pcbs
    to check the functionality and then decide if he will distribute them with or withouts cases

    So i'm currently thinking of handwire the switches to a Teensy or even an arduino mega(which i already got in my possesion,and i gotta wait minimum 20 days for a teensy.
    How does that sound?
    I'm no experienced with keyboards as i said but i'm kinda experienced with arduinos and with the soldering tool also i'm good at using guides too so i guess that i wouldn't have any practical dangers.
    Also i've read on someplaces that cherry mx aren't handwired possible i read on other places that are.
    What stands for them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 02 May 2017, 00:27:43
    Wondering if you can map media keys (play, pause, volume up and down) with the TMK keymap program. I'm pretty familliar with tmk, but haven't tried media keys before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 02 May 2017, 05:25:26
    Quote from: reconsiderit on Tue, 02 May 2017, 00:27:43
    Wondering if you can map media keys (play, pause, volume up and down) with the TMK keymap program. I'm pretty familliar with tmk, but haven't tried media keys before.
    Does this help?

    https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/332

    Also you could check the TMK thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 02 May 2017, 21:14:24
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 02 May 2017, 05:25:26
    Quote from: reconsiderit on Tue, 02 May 2017, 00:27:43
    Wondering if you can map media keys (play, pause, volume up and down) with the TMK keymap program. I'm pretty familliar with tmk, but haven't tried media keys before.
    Does this help?

    https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/332

    Also you could check the TMK thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0

    Thanks for that link. Super straightforward and helpful  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Thu, 11 May 2017, 08:20:05
    I'm struggling a bit to the Leeku MX1800 and plate into a Cherry G80-1800 case. The plate collides with the case outline of the arrows.

    (http://i.imgur.com/nqJ5ypq.jpg)
    (http://i.imgur.com/kJTajPc.jpg)

    Do I have to make any modifications, or is there something that's evaded me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:22:36
    Quote from: Acerk on Thu, 11 May 2017, 08:20:05
    I'm struggling a bit to the Leeku MX1800 and plate into a Cherry G80-1800 case. The plate collides with the case outline of the arrows.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/nqJ5ypq.jpg)

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/kJTajPc.jpg)


    Do I have to make any modifications, or is there something that's evaded me?

    Yes the case needs to be modded to fit the PCB and plate assembly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:33:44
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:22:36
    Yes the case needs to be modded to fit the PCB and plate assembly.
    After looking closely at it, I figured I could make a few cutouts in the plasic casing for the connections points on the plate. I was planning on using a tiny saw for that, but if you know of a better way, I would love to hear of it. Thanks for the help!  ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:36:06
    Quote from: Acerk on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:33:44
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:22:36
    Yes the case needs to be modded to fit the PCB and plate assembly.
    After looking closely at it, I figured I could make a few cutouts in the plasic casing for the connections points on the plate. I was planning on using a tiny saw for that, but if you know of a better way, I would love to hear of it. Thanks for the help!  ;)

    Exacto knife or razor blade would probably work well too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:41:40
    Quote from: Acerk on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:33:44
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:22:36
    Yes the case needs to be modded to fit the PCB and plate assembly.
    After looking closely at it, I figured I could make a few cutouts in the plasic casing for the connections points on the plate. I was planning on using a tiny saw for that, but if you know of a better way, I would love to hear of it. Thanks for the help!  ;)


    A small dremel or moto-tool would be better.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:48:20
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Thu, 11 May 2017, 12:26:51
    Thanks so much, guys!  ;) Those are all good ideas. I'll see what I can get my hands on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Thu, 11 May 2017, 17:07:33
    I was going to send out a DIY kit to be assembled but I think I am going to try and do it myself.

    How difficult would it be for a first time builder to build a Sentaq with LEDs and Zelious switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Fri, 12 May 2017, 07:13:19
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Thu, 11 May 2017, 17:07:33
    I was going to send out a DIY kit to be assembled but I think I am going to try and do it myself.

    How difficult would it be for a first time builder to build a Sentaq with LEDs and Zelious switches?

    Soldering pass trough components is very easy, like switches and in-switch LEDs. Surface mount ones are a bit more difficult, but nothing undoable. There are video tutorials for both, see some and go for it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:47:58
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Fri, 12 May 2017, 13:25:24
    My Novatouch spacebar sticks - it doesn't stay stuck in the down position, but it has like almost no key travel and if I push down a tad bit harder, it clicks, kind of the same feeling as when you add a keycap to a switch, but it does this every time. I bought mine second hand already dental banded - could this simply be an issue with dental bands and the key travel issues they bring? The space character registers just fine, it's just weird to me.

    Planning on buying hyperspheres to replace the dental bands before my norbauer case arrives: would this help this issue at all?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 15 May 2017, 10:07:41
    Is there a Cherry part number for 6.25x PLATE-mounted stabilizer set?  I see this old post by JD:

    Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 15:58:06
    Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 25 June 2013, 13:18:40
    Does anyone know the part number for PCB mounted Costar or Cherry stabilizers?

    There is no such thing as "PCB Mounted" Costar stabilizers. All Costar stabilizers attach to the plate.

    Cherry "Plate Mounted" stabilizers are parts: G99-0224 (1x2, 1x2.25, 1x2.75), G99-0379 (1x7), and G99-0226 (1x8, 1x9, 1x10).

    These Cherry part numbers are "without frame," and I'm not sure if that means "PCB Mounted" or what: G99-0742 (1x2, 1x2.25, 1x2.75), G99-0745 (1x7), and G99-0744 (1x8, 1x9, 1x10).

    This is the link from Cherry: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm

    But it doesn't include 6.25x size for plate-mounted variety.  Is that still the case, and would I need to source 6.25x wires separately?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DefinePenguins on Mon, 15 May 2017, 19:31:20
    Hello, recently my WKL b.face has stopped working. Whenever I plug it into my computer, the capslock LED flashes once and windows reports that the USB device was not recognized. I've tried different cables and different computers, but the same thing happens. A HHKB and a POK3R will connect to the computer with any of the cables I tried, so the problem is definitely in the b.face itself. Can someone suggest possible sources of the problem and solutions? Could it be that the keyboard's pcb is messed up somehow?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: seeqeer on Tue, 16 May 2017, 08:03:56
    does anyone know how long costums can take, the usps listing is

    May 15, 2017    07:56    BRUSSELS EUROPEAN MAIL CENTRE,BELGIUM    HELD IN CUSTOMS

    no clue how long it should take. its my first board not bought in belgium itself.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 17 May 2017, 00:53:12
    Quote from: seeqeer on Tue, 16 May 2017, 08:03:56
    does anyone know how long costums can take, the usps listing is

    May 15, 2017    07:56    BRUSSELS EUROPEAN MAIL CENTRE,BELGIUM    HELD IN CUSTOMS

    no clue how long it should take. its my first board not bought in belgium itself.

    No clue how long it'll take in Belgium but in the US I've had customs take anywhere from 1 day to a little over a week.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 17 May 2017, 10:52:49
    Quote from: elcubismo on Fri, 12 May 2017, 13:25:24
    My Novatouch spacebar sticks - it doesn't stay stuck in the down position, but it has like almost no key travel and if I push down a tad bit harder, it clicks, kind of the same feeling as when you add a keycap to a switch, but it does this every time. I bought mine second hand already dental banded - could this simply be an issue with dental bands and the key travel issues they bring? The space character registers just fine, it's just weird to me.

    Planning on buying hyperspheres to replace the dental bands before my norbauer case arrives: would this help this issue at all?

    Answering my own question in case someone else gets this issue: apparently something was up with the spacebar itself: maybe loose connector or something. I swapped out my spacebar and everything seemed to work as normal. A shame, since I really liked the white spacebar with my color scheme.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 14:46:13
    I need to make layout for my GH60 rev.c in easyavr with bottom row 1.5u 1u 1.5u 7u 1.5u 1u 1.5u, with split shift and backspace.

    Is this the correct way to do so:

    (http://i.imgur.com/Odxj5yy.png)

    Any help is appreciated thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:30:10
    How do I test a keyboard PCB before I start soldering? (switches etc)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:32:03
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:36:31
    Quote from: alienman82 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:32:03
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:30:10
    How do I test a keyboard PCB before I start soldering? (switches etc)

    tweezers can be used to short pins so that you can see if it works
    To elaborate you can install a program like aquakey test, ek switch hitter or even just open notepad, plug the PCB in to the computer and check the output from shorting the pins with the tweezers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Thu, 25 May 2017, 13:57:47
    not keyboard related, but how on earth do i add transparency to my avatar? i tried saving as png and gif since that's what showed up when i googled, but no bueno.
    the png works on other sites, it was made with photoshop.
    what can i try?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 May 2017, 14:01:57
    Quote from: Bucake on Thu, 25 May 2017, 13:57:47
    not keyboard related, but how on earth do i add transparency to my avatar? i tried saving as png and gif since that's what showed up when i googled, but no bueno.
    the png works on other sites, it was made with photoshop.
    what can i try?

    I think it has to be less than 150x150 when uploaded. I emailed you the one that seems to work.  :thumb:

    I just grabbed your current avatar, deleted the background with paint.net lasso then saved as a png at 149x149.

    [attachimg=1]

    Also for light reading

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82303.0

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60019.0

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1285301#msg1285301
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 25 May 2017, 16:54:51
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 May 2017, 18:38:37
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 25 May 2017, 16:54:51
    anyone know the part number / dimensions for the LED spacers on a Filco case?  I'm building a phantom and need to get some :thumb:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009EOPU8U/ref=mp_s_a_1_5/141-7834072-2220006?ie=UTF8&qid=1495755351&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=led+spacer&dpPl=1&dpID=41xBdesyq0L&ref=plSrch

    5mmx8mm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 25 May 2017, 18:56:55
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 May 2017, 19:07:47
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 25 May 2017, 18:56:55
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 May 2017, 18:38:37
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 25 May 2017, 16:54:51
    anyone know the part number / dimensions for the LED spacers on a Filco case?  I'm building a phantom and need to get some :thumb:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009EOPU8U/ref=mp_s_a_1_5/141-7834072-2220006?ie=UTF8&qid=1495755351&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=led+spacer&dpPl=1&dpID=41xBdesyq0L&ref=plSrch

    5mmx8mm

    oh thanks!  Does the filco use 5mm LEDs? or 3mm?

    3mm also called T1


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Fri, 26 May 2017, 13:59:53
    @SpAmRaY

    thanks! :-D

    -1 for my googling skills :<
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Sat, 27 May 2017, 16:14:19
    So I built my first board as I've so proudly mentioned near 100 times on here with Sentraq PCB, sand which case and glorious Zealios 67g

    One of the switches has a bit of a subtle squeak to it so I decided to lube the switch. I only lubed the stabilizers when building the board and I'm kind of glad I didn't lube all the switches. Now the lube switch is smooth as butter but almost, I want to say; too smooth? It seems to have effected the tactile feedback just a touch but the key travel feels slightly less.

    I've also noticed lubing dampens the sound of the key which is really cool since I didn't know it did that.


    Anyway, is this normal or did I add too much lube or something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Sat, 27 May 2017, 16:33:07
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Sat, 27 May 2017, 16:14:19
    So I built my first board as I've so proudly mentioned near 100 times on here with Sentraq PCB, sand which case and glorious Zealios 67g

    One of the switches has a bit of a subtle squeak to it so I decided to lube the switch. I only lubed the stabilizers when building the board and I'm kind of glad I didn't lube all the switches. Now the lube switch is smooth as butter but almost, I want to say; too smooth? It seems to have effected the tactile feedback just a touch but the key travel feels slightly less.

    I've also noticed lubing dampens the sound of the key which is really cool since I didn't know it did that.


    Anyway, is this normal or did I add too much lube or something?
    Did you lube the stem feet? If so it removes the tactility a bit
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OnTheBrink on Sat, 27 May 2017, 18:18:03
    Quote from: q1w2e3r4t5z on Sat, 27 May 2017, 16:33:07
    Quote from: OnTheBrink on Sat, 27 May 2017, 16:14:19
    So I built my first board as I've so proudly mentioned near 100 times on here with Sentraq PCB, sand which case and glorious Zealios 67g

    One of the switches has a bit of a subtle squeak to it so I decided to lube the switch. I only lubed the stabilizers when building the board and I'm kind of glad I didn't lube all the switches. Now the lube switch is smooth as butter but almost, I want to say; too smooth? It seems to have effected the tactile feedback just a touch but the key travel feels slightly less.

    I've also noticed lubing dampens the sound of the key which is really cool since I didn't know it did that.


    Anyway, is this normal or did I add too much lube or something?
    Did you lube the stem feet? If so it removes the tactility a bit


    Yeah, I lubed the whole stem and the spring. I kind of took off most of the lube from the stem though and it still feels the same. It's weird because I just can't tell if I like it or not. It makes the key feel "tighter" so to speak and definitely more silent.

    I have another question for anyone who can answer:
    Using QMK Firmware Builder -- how do I upload a previously built firmware so I can just edit what I've already changed instead of starting from scratch on http://qmk.sized.io/

    I downloaded the entire firmware ZIP after making the layout but I don't know which file in the zip needs to be uploaded to continue where I left off. Whatever I try says "Invalid Configuration".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:11:22
    Hello helpful people. I'm just wondering what software the Lightsaver V2 uses to program it? If it's jing-eon I will be sad :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:16:20
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 29 May 2017, 18:07:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:16:20
    Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:11:22
    Hello helpful people. I'm just wondering what software the Lightsaver V2 uses to program it? If it's jing-eon I will be sad :(

    O2D firmware and you flash it with flip I think.

    Duck's software is literally the bottom of the **** barrel

    Yeah it isn't all that hard IMO. I just did it with my viper and it was easy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: katushkin on Mon, 29 May 2017, 18:53:45
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 29 May 2017, 18:07:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:16:20
    Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:11:22
    Hello helpful people. I'm just wondering what software the Lightsaver V2 uses to program it? If it's jing-eon I will be sad :(

    O2D firmware and you flash it with flip I think.

    Duck's software is literally the bottom of the **** barrel

    Yeah it isn't all that hard IMO. I just did it with my viper and it was easy.

    Ah okay, I was looking at metalliqaz's firmware and was going to try that first but if I find all the files for O2D then I might try that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 29 May 2017, 19:31:43
    Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 29 May 2017, 18:53:45
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 29 May 2017, 18:07:06
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:16:20
    Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 29 May 2017, 16:11:22
    Hello helpful people. I'm just wondering what software the Lightsaver V2 uses to program it? If it's jing-eon I will be sad :(

    O2D firmware and you flash it with flip I think.

    Duck's software is literally the bottom of the **** barrel

    Yeah it isn't all that hard IMO. I just did it with my viper and it was easy.

    Ah okay, I was looking at metalliqaz's firmware and was going to try that first but if I find all the files for O2D then I might try that.

    Check the viper v2 group buy thread
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: arf on Tue, 30 May 2017, 15:17:00
    I've got a Leopold FC750RT which only has one winkey, isntead of the two that I'm used to. I haven't been able to remap the fn key to winkey using Autohotkey as it doesn't actually send a key code to the OS. What option would everyone suggest?

    1. Reprogram the keyboard firmware or replace the controller with a more customizable one (haven't been able to find any info on this for the Leopold)
    2. Get the Varmilo VA87M, which has two winkeys and seems like basically the same keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 30 May 2017, 23:17:30
    Quote from: arf on Tue, 30 May 2017, 15:17:00
    I've got a Leopold FC750RT which only has one winkey, isntead of the two that I'm used to. I haven't been able to remap the fn key to winkey using Autohotkey as it doesn't actually send a key code to the OS. What option would everyone suggest?

    1. Reprogram the keyboard firmware or replace the controller with a more customizable one (haven't been able to find any info on this for the Leopold)
    2. Get the Varmilo VA87M, which has two winkeys and seems like basically the same keyboard.

    I haven't been following Leo's keyboards so forgive the question, but is that keyboard MX/clone or Topre?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 May 2017, 23:25:28
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 30 May 2017, 23:17:30
    Quote from: arf on Tue, 30 May 2017, 15:17:00
    I've got a Leopold FC750RT which only has one winkey, isntead of the two that I'm used to. I haven't been able to remap the fn key to winkey using Autohotkey as it doesn't actually send a key code to the OS. What option would everyone suggest?

    1. Reprogram the keyboard firmware or replace the controller with a more customizable one (haven't been able to find any info on this for the Leopold)
    2. Get the Varmilo VA87M, which has two winkeys and seems like basically the same keyboard.

    I haven't been following Leo's keyboards so forgive the question, but is that keyboard MX/clone or Topre?

    That particular Leopold is the MX variety and Leopold currently only ships genuine cherry mx switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 31 May 2017, 00:01:00
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 May 2017, 23:25:28
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 30 May 2017, 23:17:30
    Quote from: arf on Tue, 30 May 2017, 15:17:00
    I've got a Leopold FC750RT which only has one winkey, isntead of the two that I'm used to. I haven't been able to remap the fn key to winkey using Autohotkey as it doesn't actually send a key code to the OS. What option would everyone suggest?

    1. Reprogram the keyboard firmware or replace the controller with a more customizable one (haven't been able to find any info on this for the Leopold)
    2. Get the Varmilo VA87M, which has two winkeys and seems like basically the same keyboard.

    I haven't been following Leo's keyboards so forgive the question, but is that keyboard MX/clone or Topre?

    That particular Leopold is the MX variety and Leopold currently only ships genuine cherry mx switches.

    If that is the case, personally, I would buy another board.  Then just because I am fairly decent with a soldering iron, remove the stock controller and wire in a teensy straight to the matrix.  But I suck at the firmware level, so I stick with IBM F keyboards.  Much easier messing with the keymap on a Xwhatsit controller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jcc04 on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:08:38
    How long does it take for GMK to shine and how noticeable is the before and after.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:13:58
    Quote from: jcc04 on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:08:38
    How long does it take for GMK to shine and how noticeable is the before and after.

    Depends on usage and a lot of other factors.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:32:18
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:13:58
    Quote from: jcc04 on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:08:38
    How long does it take for GMK to shine and how noticeable is the before and after.

    Depends on usage and a lot of other factors.

    Other factors include the amount of direct sunlight, type of artificial light (LEDs emit a lot of UV), cleanliness of your hands during typing, the chemistry of your hands, and can possibly come down to the individual chemistry of that particular color of plastic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:35:13
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:32:18
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:13:58
    Quote from: jcc04 on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:08:38
    How long does it take for GMK to shine and how noticeable is the before and after.

    Depends on usage and a lot of other factors.

    Other factors include the amount of direct sunlight, type of artificial light (LEDs emit a lot of UV), cleanliness of your hands during typing, the chemistry of your hands, and can possibly come down to the individual chemistry of that particular color of plastic.

    Once caps shine though it is very noticeable.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 31 May 2017, 18:26:18
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:35:13
    Once caps shine though it is very noticeable.

    While it is very noticeable, if the caps shine uniformly instead of just a few keys shining I think it looks good.

    On the subject of shine time, I've been using my GMK TA alphas for over a year and they don't show any shine yet.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sempre on Thu, 01 June 2017, 11:40:23
    Does a 1.50 ANSI tkl plate exist for the phantom pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 01 June 2017, 12:03:50
    Quote from: Sempre on Thu, 01 June 2017, 11:40:23
    Does a 1.50 ANSI tkl plate exist for the phantom pcb?
    Yes
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sempre on Thu, 01 June 2017, 12:27:32
    Happen to know where?
    mechanicalkeyboards' site only has 1.25
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 01 June 2017, 12:59:04
    Quote from: Sempre on Thu, 01 June 2017, 12:27:32
    Happen to know where?
    mechanicalkeyboards' site only has 1.25
    There are tons in the wild from the original group buys they show up in classifieds every so often.

    I do not know if there is a current off the shelf source but I know they get requested a lot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Axiomatik on Thu, 01 June 2017, 13:27:44
    So I have a sentraq S60 RGB keyboard and run into a couple questions while programming it.

    1. If I want to put load a new hex file, do I need to reset the entire keyboard and reload the driver?

    2. I first flashed the keyboard using the default hex file from sentraq and then reflashed using a custom QMK layout. However I didn't add the RGB functionality back in (FN+Z,X,C). Looking back at QMK I don't know which scancodes(is this what they are called) were used in the original sentraq file. So if somebody could please advise it would be much appreciated.
    (http://i.imgur.com/KFvRFi8.jpg)

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:10:43
    Quote from: Sempre on Thu, 01 June 2017, 11:40:23
    Does a 1.50 ANSI tkl plate exist for the phantom pcb?
    Message one of the guys from mechanicalkeyboards.com on here.
    I ordered a stainless steel ANSI 1.50 phantom plate from them, but I don't think it's listed on their website yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sempre on Thu, 01 June 2017, 17:39:08
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 01 June 2017, 12:59:04

    There are tons in the wild from the original group buys they show up in classifieds every so often.

    I do not know if there is a current off the shelf source but I know they get requested a lot.

    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:10:43
    Message one of the guys from mechanicalkeyboards.com on here.
    I ordered a stainless steel ANSI 1.50 phantom plate from them, but I don't think it's listed on their website yet.

    Thanks
    Hopefully they do have it, if not ill make a wtb thread



    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 18:43:37
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 01 June 2017, 20:32:54
    Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 18:43:37
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:10:43
    Quote from: Sempre on Thu, 01 June 2017, 11:40:23
    Does a 1.50 ANSI tkl plate exist for the phantom pcb?
    Message one of the guys from mechanicalkeyboards.com on here.
    I ordered a stainless steel ANSI 1.50 phantom plate from them, but I don't think it's listed on their website yet.
    bro thanks.  I will do that too.  I'm also building one since Delirious was nice enough to send me a free case. 
    Going to daily that baby for years

    They should still have some because I don't think they ever listed them on the website.
    I do wish they would have had some made in aluminum, but the stainless steel turned out nice.
    What kind of case are did you get?
    I'm thinking about getting one of these https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89893.msg2433972;topicseen#msg2433972 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89893.msg2433972;topicseen#msg2433972)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 20:40:15
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 02 June 2017, 05:58:55
    I can't remember if I asks this before or not.

    Anyone have any recommendations on the best way to trim ~85 LED's to fit into SIP sockets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 02 June 2017, 08:53:55
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 02 June 2017, 05:58:55
    I can't remember if I asks this before or not.

    Anyone have any recommendations on the best way to trim ~85 LED's to fit into SIP sockets?

    I just clip them one by one and insert right after clipping.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/photoelectric_effect/13136031895/in/album-72157642317342363/#
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Fri, 02 June 2017, 23:14:42
    I remember seeing a picture showing where to cut LED pins for use with sip sockets, anyone got it? First time working with them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 03 June 2017, 10:02:21
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 02 June 2017, 23:14:42
    I remember seeing a picture showing where to cut LED pins for use with sip sockets, anyone got it? First time working with them.

    Check my post above yours
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sat, 03 June 2017, 12:02:05
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 03 June 2017, 10:02:21
    Quote from: Sifo on Fri, 02 June 2017, 23:14:42
    I remember seeing a picture showing where to cut LED pins for use with sip sockets, anyone got it? First time working with them.

    Check my post above yours

    i'm ****ing stupid
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Mon, 05 June 2017, 17:05:06
    Looking for the thickest, PBT-est MX keycaps, preferably blank or side print, and (hopefully) something that is readily available. I like cherry/oem the most but I'm fairly open about the profile when it comes down to it. I have some pbt side prints from maxkeyboard, which say they are mostly 1.5 mm with about 1.2 for the modifiers, but I want whatever is the highest quality available. Trying to endgame my novatouch once I get that norbauer case in a few weeks.

    I've seen some blanks on geekkeys that look like a good possibility, but also wondering if I should hunt down some enjoyPBT or Imsto caps. I thought that 1.5 mm was the thickest pbt available, but then I see videos like this one:


    Those look way thicker than my caps, but maybe it's just the angle?

    Just now I compared the caps on my pok3r, and they are noticeably thicker than the ones from maxkeyboard, even to the naked eye.

    Any help would be appreciated!

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 05 June 2017, 23:52:34
    Quote from: elcubismo on Mon, 05 June 2017, 17:05:06
    More
    Looking for the thickest, PBT-est MX keycaps, preferably blank or side print, and (hopefully) something that is readily available. I like cherry/oem the most but I'm fairly open about the profile when it comes down to it. I have some pbt side prints from maxkeyboard, which say they are mostly 1.5 mm with about 1.2 for the modifiers, but I want whatever is the highest quality available. Trying to endgame my novatouch once I get that norbauer case in a few weeks.

    I've seen some blanks on geekkeys that look like a good possibility, but also wondering if I should hunt down some enjoyPBT or Imsto caps. I thought that 1.5 mm was the thickest pbt available, but then I see videos like this one:


    Those look way thicker than my caps, but maybe it's just the angle?

    Just now I compared the caps on my pok3r, and they are noticeably thicker than the ones from maxkeyboard, even to the naked eye.

    Any help would be appreciated!

    For the money I'd go with gateron caps which I think are exactly the same as ePBT.

    An Imsto set would be higher quality but that's because Imsto does really good dyesubbing and the caps are usually made by BSP but again, for the money, I'd go with gaterons unless your really want to spend the extra money.

    Edit: Noticed you want blanks, in which case mentioning Imsto is pointless because they only do dyesubbing, they do not make keycaps. Also front printed keycaps will have pad printing instead of dyesub, not sure if this matters to you but it's good to know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Tue, 06 June 2017, 01:20:41
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Mon, 05 June 2017, 23:52:34
    Quote from: elcubismo on Mon, 05 June 2017, 17:05:06
    More
    Looking for the thickest, PBT-est MX keycaps, preferably blank or side print, and (hopefully) something that is readily available. I like cherry/oem the most but I'm fairly open about the profile when it comes down to it. I have some pbt side prints from maxkeyboard, which say they are mostly 1.5 mm with about 1.2 for the modifiers, but I want whatever is the highest quality available. Trying to endgame my novatouch once I get that norbauer case in a few weeks.

    I've seen some blanks on geekkeys that look like a good possibility, but also wondering if I should hunt down some enjoyPBT or Imsto caps. I thought that 1.5 mm was the thickest pbt available, but then I see videos like this one:


    Those look way thicker than my caps, but maybe it's just the angle?

    Just now I compared the caps on my pok3r, and they are noticeably thicker than the ones from maxkeyboard, even to the naked eye.

    Any help would be appreciated!

    For the money I'd go with gateron caps which I think are exactly the same as ePBT.

    An Imsto set would be higher quality but that's because Imsto does really good dyesubbing and the caps are usually made by BSP but again, for the money, I'd go with gaterons unless your really want to spend the extra money.

    Edit: Noticed you want blanks, in which case mentioning Imsto is pointless because they only do dyesubbing, they do not make keycaps. Also front printed keycaps will have pad printing instead of dyesub, not sure if this matters to you but it's good to know.

    I was looking at those gateron blanks on mechanicalkeyboards, was wondering if they were the same thing. I also noticed just a little while ago that there is an NKPC blanks group buy going on massdrop.  Thanks for the tips!

    I don't mind pad printing for fronts since I probably won't be touching them too much :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 06 June 2017, 01:32:23
    Quote from: elcubismo on Tue, 06 June 2017, 01:20:41
    I was looking at those gateron blanks on mechanicalkeyboards, was wondering if they were the same thing. I also noticed just a little while ago that there is an NKPC blanks group buy going on massdrop.  Thanks for the tips!

    I don't mind pad printing for fronts since I probably won't be touching them too much :P

    Save yourself the wait with massdrop, buy these https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89965.0.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Tue, 06 June 2017, 14:05:16
    Quote from: Joey Quinn on Tue, 06 June 2017, 01:32:23
    Quote from: elcubismo on Tue, 06 June 2017, 01:20:41
    I was looking at those gateron blanks on mechanicalkeyboards, was wondering if they were the same thing. I also noticed just a little while ago that there is an NKPC blanks group buy going on massdrop.  Thanks for the tips!

    I don't mind pad printing for fronts since I probably won't be touching them too much :P

    Save yourself the wait with massdrop, buy these https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89965.0.

    Got 'em - thanks for the help again!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keebwarrior on Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:05:57
    Anyone know of any 60-75% split keyboards like the VE.A or even an ortholinear keyboard that will be for sale or coming in a drop in the near future(6 months to a year). Preferably something that can be tented, the case should have a small bezel and made of aluminum or an acrylic case with an aluminum/steel plate to mount the switches.

    I am currently using a planck and it's great, but I really need something that's split because I am starting to show signs of carpal tunnel.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sempre on Thu, 08 June 2017, 15:15:11
    Quote from: keebwarrior on Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:05:57
    Anyone know of any 60-75% split keyboards like the VE.A or even an ortholinear keyboard that will be for sale or coming in a drop in the near future(6 months to a year). Preferably something that can be tented, the case should have a small bezel and made of aluminum or an acrylic case with an aluminum/steel plate to mount the switches.

    I am currently using a planck and it's great, but I really need something that's split because I am starting to show signs of carpal tunnel.

    You could get this split 40%, though you have to build it.

    http://www.switchtop.com/product/let-s-split-40-percent-pcb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keebwarrior on Thu, 08 June 2017, 16:06:21
    Quote from: Sempre on Thu, 08 June 2017, 15:15:11
    Quote from: keebwarrior on Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:05:57
    Anyone know of any 60-75% split keyboards like the VE.A or even an ortholinear keyboard that will be for sale or coming in a drop in the near future(6 months to a year). Preferably something that can be tented, the case should have a small bezel and made of aluminum or an acrylic case with an aluminum/steel plate to mount the switches.

    I am currently using a planck and it's great, but I really need something that's split because I am starting to show signs of carpal tunnel.

    You could get this split 40%, though you have to build it.

    http://www.switchtop.com/product/let-s-split-40-percent-pcb

    I just don't like the 40% layout. Smallest I really want to go is 60%, I would actually prefer to build the keyboard instead of buying one.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sempre on Thu, 08 June 2017, 20:07:57
    Quote from: keebwarrior on Thu, 08 June 2017, 16:06:21

    I just don't like the 40% layout. Smallest I really want to go is 60%, I would actually prefer to build the keyboard instead of buying one.



    I assumed that you wanted a 40% since you use a planck.

    Anyway here's a 60% split keyboard. I have one right now but there are reports of some software issues:
    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1919

    Then there's this keyboard but it's seems the GB won't run anytime soon:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61306.0

    If you're up to it you could always hand wire your own keyboard and make a 3d printed case.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: keebwarrior on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:56:10
    How much would my current keyboard sell for, or what is a fair price?

    Planck with gateron blues, red anodized aluminum case, black aluminum feet mounted to the case. Blank nantucket selectric keycaps with the layer keys in double shot red with blue anchors for the upper and lower arrows.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:57:30
    Quote from: keebwarrior on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:56:10
    How much would my current keyboard sell for, or what is a fair price?

    Planck with gateron blues, red anodized aluminum case, black aluminum feet mounted to the case. Blank nantucket selectric keycaps with the layer keys in double shot red with blue anchors for the upper and lower arrows.



    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zylinderhut on Mon, 12 June 2017, 06:03:46
    Which batteries are required for the remote of a Red Scarf II+ Ver. D? I've ordered one recently and batteries are not included. I would like to order the batteries already to have them at hand the moment the keyboard arrives :D
    Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Tue, 13 June 2017, 08:31:03
    So, last night I stayed up late to switch out my Novatouch's dental bands for hyperspheres and added some lube. It feels great! Actually is quieter than my leopold with landing pads now. Unfortunately, I'm typing this on my Leopold because I just noticed that the novatouch's spacebar isn't registering, and the "N" key is inconsistent. I'm at work now so I haven't had a chance to open it back up, but my first guess is that my springs are not lined up correctly. Maybe I knocked them off to the side when I put the board back together.

    Anyone have any experience with this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 June 2017, 09:36:39
    Quote from: keebwarrior on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:56:10
    How much would my current keyboard sell for, or what is a fair price?

    Planck with gateron blues, red anodized aluminum case, black aluminum feet mounted to the case. Blank nantucket selectric keycaps with the layer keys in double shot red with blue anchors for the upper and lower arrows.


    Use this  (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0)thread for advice on pricing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 13 June 2017, 09:48:17
    Quote from: elcubismo on Tue, 13 June 2017, 08:31:03
    So, last night I stayed up late to switch out my Novatouch's dental bands for hyperspheres and added some lube. It feels great! Actually is quieter than my leopold with landing pads now. Unfortunately, I'm typing this on my Leopold because I just noticed that the novatouch's spacebar isn't registering, and the "N" key is inconsistent. I'm at work now so I haven't had a chance to open it back up, but my first guess is that my springs are not lined up correctly. Maybe I knocked them off to the side when I put the board back together.

    Anyone have any experience with this?

    Should just be an alignment issue  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Tue, 13 June 2017, 18:15:39
    turns out the issue is way worse! The "n" key spring looked ok, but somehow I LOST the spacebar capacative spring! Not the spring that goes over the switch, but the one below the dome... I'm so sad right now :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 June 2017, 18:59:07
    Quote from: elcubismo on Tue, 13 June 2017, 18:15:39
    turns out the issue is way worse! The "n" key spring looked ok, but somehow I LOST the spacebar capacative spring! Not the spring that goes over the switch, but the one below the dome... I'm so sad right now :'(

    Sometimes they can accidentally get doubled up so don't lose hope. Just double check to make sure two haven't nested together.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 20:07:49
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 13 June 2017, 20:08:32
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 20:07:49
    can I used old cherry in switch diodes on my phantom?  don't feel like ordering diodes when I could use the ones I have salvaged.

    I mean you could always just test it after soldering in one right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 20:10:16
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 13 June 2017, 20:10:49
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 20:10:16
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 13 June 2017, 20:08:32
    Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 20:07:49
    can I used old cherry in switch diodes on my phantom?  don't feel like ordering diodes when I could use the ones I have salvaged.

    I mean you could always just test it after soldering in one right?

    maybe, but I don't have my teensy yet.  I guess I could use my A87 PCB.

    I mean it wouldn't hurt to just try one to see if it works.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 June 2017, 21:37:11
    Quote from: zylinderhut on Mon, 12 June 2017, 06:03:46
    Which batteries are required for the remote of a Red Scarf II+ Ver. D? I've ordered one recently and batteries are not included. I would like to order the batteries already to have them at hand the moment the keyboard arrives :D
    Thank you!

    Assuming all Red Scarf remotes are the same it should be a CR2025

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zylinderhut on Wed, 14 June 2017, 01:46:38
    Quote
    Assuming all Red Scarf remotes are the same it should be a CR2025

    Thank you very much! Soon I will be all set up...all I need then is the red scarf itself  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 14 June 2017, 08:32:29
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 June 2017, 18:59:07
    Quote from: elcubismo on Tue, 13 June 2017, 18:15:39
    turns out the issue is way worse! The "n" key spring looked ok, but somehow I LOST the spacebar capacative spring! Not the spring that goes over the switch, but the one below the dome... I'm so sad right now :'(

    Sometimes they can accidentally get doubled up so don't lose hope. Just double check to make sure two haven't nested together.

    That's what I had thought too, but it must have popped out and fallen on the floor: my wife found it under the table I had been working on. Thank goodness!

    Lesson learned: I no longer place the switch housing face-up over the springs/domes/pcb when putting it back together: it's too finicky and can cause me to shift something. I elevate the switch housing with supports so none of the switches are depressed, place the dome sheet over the sliders, then drop the springs into the domes and put the PCB face-down over the springs. Almost foolproof that way!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 15 June 2017, 19:41:49
    Anyone here have experience with getting carbon fiber plates cut? If so, what service was able to do it for you?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 15 June 2017, 21:29:18
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spremino on Fri, 23 June 2017, 14:15:16
    On an AT101W (or AT102W) can you swap the key caps? or are they contoured (i.e. the key caps on different rows have different profiles)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zombimuncha on Sat, 24 June 2017, 16:13:24
    Quote from: spremino on Fri, 23 June 2017, 14:15:16
    On an AT101W (or AT102W) can you swap the key caps? or are they contoured (i.e. the key caps on different rows have different profiles)?

    They're contoured. You could swap Q and W and it'd be fine, but if you swapped Q and Z it'd be weird.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ___q on Sun, 25 June 2017, 21:45:26
    Does anyone happen to have the/a program that can be used to generate .hex files for the Kingsaver (which can then be flashed with Amtel Flip)? This post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58776.0) links to it, but the site seems to be dead.

    Thanks!

    EDIT: Found it here (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/data/6987401).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:48:22
    With longer spacers, could we use the GMK trays for SA keycaps? Has anyone tried this? Are there longer spacers available...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:59:29
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:48:22
    With longer spacers, could we use the GMK trays for SA keycaps? Has anyone tried this? Are there longer spacers available...?

    I think the SA caps would be too tall for the GMK trays to close, I don't know for sure though maybe someone who has one on hand can clarify.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: shekki on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:37:03
    What is the best way to clean up aka unlube cherry switches lubed with krytox? I am trying to thoroughly clean the disassembled switches, and the housing/stem/spring have all been lubed. I've read that krytox is insoluble to a lot of compounds, would 99% isopropyl alcohol not work?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OneNightFriend on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:58:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:59:29
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:48:22
    With longer spacers, could we use the GMK trays for SA keycaps? Has anyone tried this? Are there longer spacers available...?

    I think the SA caps would be too tall for the GMK trays to close, I don't know for sure though maybe someone who has one on hand can clarify.

    It would be too tall to close traditionally but you could likely rig something to hold it together instead of the provided pins and have success.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GunPoint on Mon, 03 July 2017, 04:19:45
    hello guys! just got my pack of kailh gold switches from massdrop today. I am planning to build a new keyboard using these and i notices that i can actually fit two 2x3x4 diodes into it. So i wonder, if there any way to invert phase of backlight in qmk firmware? i saw some similar discussion somewhere but can not find it right now.... thank u m8s.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 03 July 2017, 09:20:00
    Quote from: OneNightFriend on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:58:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:59:29
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:48:22
    With longer spacers, could we use the GMK trays for SA keycaps? Has anyone tried this? Are there longer spacers available...?

    I think the SA caps would be too tall for the GMK trays to close, I don't know for sure though maybe someone who has one on hand can clarify.

    It would be too tall to close traditionally but you could likely rig something to hold it together instead of the provided pins and have success.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:59:29
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:48:22
    With longer spacers, could we use the GMK trays for SA keycaps? Has anyone tried this? Are there longer spacers available...?

    I think the SA caps would be too tall for the GMK trays to close, I don't know for sure though maybe someone who has one on hand can clarify.


    Well,yes... That's the point - the spacer/clip/plastic dingeling isn't long enough to accept anything larger than GMK R1 (R5...?) keycaps, but if I used longer spacers presumably they would fit. I wanted to know if anyone has tried it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OneNightFriend on Mon, 03 July 2017, 09:26:37
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 03 July 2017, 09:20:00
    Quote from: OneNightFriend on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:58:12
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:59:29
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:48:22
    With longer spacers, could we use the GMK trays for SA keycaps? Has anyone tried this? Are there longer spacers available...?

    I think the SA caps would be too tall for the GMK trays to close, I don't know for sure though maybe someone who has one on hand can clarify.

    It would be too tall to close traditionally but you could likely rig something to hold it together instead of the provided pins and have success.

    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:59:29
    Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:48:22
    With longer spacers, could we use the GMK trays for SA keycaps? Has anyone tried this? Are there longer spacers available...?

    I think the SA caps would be too tall for the GMK trays to close, I don't know for sure though maybe someone who has one on hand can clarify.


    Well,yes... That's the point - the spacer/clip/plastic dingeling isn't long enough to accept anything larger than GMK R1 (R5...?) keycaps, but if I used longer spacers presumably they would fit. I wanted to know if anyone has tried it.
    I remembered watching a video about it and them mentioning that it should work with new pins. Just checked back and it looks like they didn't actually test it as much as suggest someone should try to do it.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 03 July 2017, 12:07:39
    So people will keep suggesting it until someone does it... ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OneNightFriend on Mon, 03 July 2017, 12:27:41
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 03 July 2017, 12:07:39
    So people will keep suggesting it until someone does it... ;)
    Here's your chance to shine!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 03 July 2017, 12:37:24
    Quote from: OneNightFriend on Mon, 03 July 2017, 12:27:41
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 03 July 2017, 12:07:39
    So people will keep suggesting it until someone does it... ;)
    Here's your chance to shine!

    The only problem is my lack of english vocabulary. I have no idea what I'm looking for...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:59:27
    Does anyone know if this keycap cover (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,roofs&pid=rfmek) will fit the Norbauer case for the novatouch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: teraflame on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:44:17
    Whats the realistic longevity of a topre keyboard? I've heard that the rubber will stiffen over time. How bad will it get, unusable? And there are currently no solutions other than to buy a completely new board, if only for the domes?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 07 July 2017, 13:25:48
    Quote from: teraflame on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:44:17
    Whats the realistic longevity of a topre keyboard? I've heard that the rubber will stiffen over time. How bad will it get, unusable? And there are currently no solutions other than to buy a completely new board, if only for the domes?

    I have yet to see anyone have a topre board become unusable due to domes becoming too stiff.

    In my opinion it isn't anything to be concerned about.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gruener_Salat on Sat, 08 July 2017, 10:02:45
    So how do you solder these SIP sockets to hold resistors? I think they are too tiny and wobbly to put the pcb onto them + they wouldn't be aligned properly.
    Add a little amount of solder onto the top side so that they are fixed and then on the other side the regular trough hole joint? or just bend the lead?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Worthless_Owl on Sat, 08 July 2017, 20:30:20
    What keyboard is this?

    https://ibb.co/cK5Bpa
    https://ibb.co/iset2v
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Tue, 11 July 2017, 09:11:18
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 07 July 2017, 13:25:48
    Quote from: teraflame on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:44:17
    Whats the realistic longevity of a topre keyboard? I've heard that the rubber will stiffen over time. How bad will it get, unusable? And there are currently no solutions other than to buy a completely new board, if only for the domes?

    I have yet to see anyone have a topre board become unusable due to domes becoming too stiff.

    In my opinion it isn't anything to be concerned about.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Yeah, the only time I have heard of that happening was when it was left in a box for a couple years after someone had moved or something. I can't remember where I saw that, but it's definitely out of the ordinary: maybe a combination of inadequate storage, air quality, sun exposure, or something.

    And to answer the other question: jchan is currently doing an interest check for 55g domes - you could probably use those to replace bad domes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iFreilicht on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:45:42
    Quote from: Worthless_Owl on Sat, 08 July 2017, 20:30:20
    What keyboard is this?

    https://ibb.co/cK5Bpa
    https://ibb.co/iset2v

    Would really help to see pictures of the underside.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: emptyk on Fri, 14 July 2017, 11:23:00
    Two somewhat related quick questions.

    1. Do Cherry brown switches get stiffer/heavier with age?

    2. Are Cherry brown switches lighter than they used to be (comparing a new keyboard with browns vs one that is 3-4 years ago)?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 July 2017, 11:28:33
    Quote from: emptyk on Fri, 14 July 2017, 11:23:00
    Two somewhat related quick questions.

    1. Do Cherry brown switches get stiffer/heavier with age?

    2. Are Cherry brown switches lighter than they used to be (comparing a new keyboard with browns vs one that is 3-4 years ago)?

    Thanks.

    If anything they would get smoother and thus slightly lighter with age.

    And if they seem lighter now it is because they could be the new smoother molds possibly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: emptyk on Fri, 14 July 2017, 11:38:31
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 July 2017, 11:28:33
    Quote from: emptyk on Fri, 14 July 2017, 11:23:00
    Two somewhat related quick questions.

    1. Do Cherry brown switches get stiffer/heavier with age?

    2. Are Cherry brown switches lighter than they used to be (comparing a new keyboard with browns vs one that is 3-4 years ago)?

    Thanks.

    If anything they would get smoother and thus slightly lighter with age.

    And if they seem lighter now it is because they could be the new smoother molds possibly.

    Thanks for the quick answers. Interesting, the new browns feel light and mushy to me. Undesirably so.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Worthless_Owl on Sun, 16 July 2017, 22:05:48
    Quote from: iFreilicht on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:45:42
    Quote from: Worthless_Owl on Sat, 08 July 2017, 20:30:20
    What keyboard is this?

    https://ibb.co/cK5Bpa
    https://ibb.co/iset2v

    Would really help to see pictures of the underside.

    https://ibb.co/iHjXkF
    Nothing on the underside

    https://ibb.co/cGYQ5F
    And it uses this switch, not sure what this is.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iFreilicht on Mon, 17 July 2017, 11:01:35
    Quote from: Worthless_Owl on Sun, 16 July 2017, 22:05:48
    Quote from: iFreilicht on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:45:42
    Quote from: Worthless_Owl on Sat, 08 July 2017, 20:30:20
    What keyboard is this?

    https://ibb.co/cK5Bpa
    https://ibb.co/iset2v

    Would really help to see pictures of the underside.

    https://ibb.co/iHjXkF
    Nothing on the underside

    https://ibb.co/cGYQ5F
    And it uses this switch, not sure what this is.

    Hm, the switch looks like an Alps mount, could be a variant of this one: https://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps.tw_Type_OD1

    It seems like only one other board has been photographed with a similar switch:
    https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/costar-csk-1102s-ver-1-5-apparently-with-alps-tw-type-od1-t13871.html

    Definitely head over to Deskthority and ask them, they're going to love this! I'd also advise to open the keyboard and check inside, there might be a model number on the PCB. It could be that you're currently the only person in possession of a board with this particular switch, consider yourself lucky!

    Oh and if you do post on DT, please PM me a link, I'd love to see what comes from this!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 19 July 2017, 11:59:02
    Is it possible to spray the silver case of my octagon and rs96 black? Will it ruin the case or look bad?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 19 July 2017, 18:19:11
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Wed, 19 July 2017, 11:59:02
    Is it possible to spray the silver case of my octagon and rs96 black? Will it ruin the case or look bad?

    Spray paint won't ruin an aluminum case, whether or not it looks good depends on how good you are at spray painting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Thu, 20 July 2017, 07:47:21
    What's the colour of a two cent piece?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 20 July 2017, 22:05:11
    Quote from: fanpeople on Thu, 20 July 2017, 07:47:21
    What's the colour of a two cent piece?

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 21 July 2017, 07:24:23
    Beautiful coin!

    US coinage is excruciatingly boring these days. We had a brief period of interesting coins in the early-mid 20th century.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 22 July 2017, 12:53:01
    Is there a purple and white or just purple gmk set?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 23 July 2017, 19:57:37
    anyone know where i can get a good quality decent length USB-A -> USB-Micro-B cable shipped to the US? i bought the one for my beamer from Monoprice a while back but they don't seem to stock the same cable inventory that they used to?

    EDIT: Weird, found the same one I previously purchased on Amazon... k.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003L18S0E/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 19:54:03
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 22 July 2017, 12:53:01
    Is there a purple and white or just purple gmk set?

    Not that I'm aware of. You could probably get pretty close by doing GMK purple mods with white or beige alphas.

    Pretty sure there was a JTK purple & white at some point, depending on how badly you want GMK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nightdriver on Wed, 26 July 2017, 15:43:57
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 19:54:03
    Quote from: jonathanyu on Sat, 22 July 2017, 12:53:01
    Is there a purple and white or just purple gmk set?

    Not that I'm aware of. You could probably get pretty close by doing GMK purple mods with white or beige alphas.

    Pretty sure there was a JTK purple & white at some point, depending on how badly you want GMK.

    GMK purple mods with GMK hyperfuse alphas.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tagkaman on Sun, 13 August 2017, 03:01:58
    Is there a way to inexpensively convert a standard wired keyboard to have a detachable cable without the need for any soldering? The keyboard I'm working on has a 5 pin socket on the pcb that you can pull the cable out of and I'd imagine it wouldn't be too hard to buy a part that would just run that 5 pin port on the pcb into a mini/micro usb female port that you could stick on the case, but as much as I've looked I can't find anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mTwTT1 on Sun, 13 August 2017, 05:27:25
    I think i'm finally getting bored of my Realforce (after 5 years). Was thinking about trying out a Novatouch for gaming, i'd mostly use it to play RTS games like Broodwar.

    I haven't kept up with the new boards but i've heard good things about the Novatouch, reviews have been good and the build looks solid. Both the Novatouch and Realforce use Topre switches but i wanted to get some 1st hand feedback on whether or not they both feel the same. Double tapping keys is extremely important for me so i need it to feel effortless, also does the Novatouch come in 45G? Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 13 August 2017, 08:32:48
    Quote from: Tagkaman on Sun, 13 August 2017, 03:01:58
    Is there a way to inexpensively convert a standard wired keyboard to have a detachable cable without the need for any soldering? The keyboard I'm working on has a 5 pin socket on the pcb that you can pull the cable out of and I'd imagine it wouldn't be too hard to buy a part that would just run that 5 pin port on the pcb into a mini/micro usb female port that you could stick on the case, but as much as I've looked I can't find anything.

    I have taken apart dozens of keyboards, and the connection at the controller is different for virtually every one of them.

    The easy solution to wiring is to sacrifice the original and connect the wires from the original cable to the back of the USB port.
    But I don't think that a straight wire connection will be enough, you will probably need some minimal additional circuitry in there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mTwTT1 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 06:21:18
    Is there a topre keyboard with the same compact layout as the Noppoo Choc Mini? Basically a compact topre board with f keys.

    Or do you guys know a good compact membrane keyboard? The Cherry ML4100 has a good layout but i heard that the switches need a lot of oiling, any other similar membrane boards available?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 18 August 2017, 06:41:02
    Quote from: mTwTT1 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 06:21:18
    Is there a topre keyboard with the same compact layout as the Noppoo Choc Mini? Basically a compact topre board with f keys.

    Or do you guys know a good compact membrane keyboard? The Cherry ML4100 has a good layout but i heard that the switches need a lot of oiling, any other similar membrane boards available?
    You might look here www.nizkeyboard.com/product-category/niz-capacitive/

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mTwTT1 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 06:50:07
    Plum84 looks very interesting, thx. Looks like there's only a 35g version of it tho.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 18 August 2017, 08:32:27
    Quote from: mTwTT1 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 06:50:07
    Plum84 looks very interesting, thx. Looks like there's only a 35g version of it tho.
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90810.0

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Daniel on Fri, 18 August 2017, 09:10:15
    Hey
    What are these white backlit keycaps (from QWERTY and below, the normal white ones {not the artisan and not the gradient)?
    https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/hammer-jello-artisan-keycap/361A5635_20170811153722.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

    It looks great and I'm trying to do something similar, I found the gradient top row (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Backlit-Doubleshot-Gradient-PBT-Keycap-Set/32734342373.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10065_10151_10068_10172_10326_10084_10083_10080_10307_10082_10081_10110_10137_10111_10060_10112_10113_10155_10114_10154_10056_10055_10054_10312_10313_10059_10314_10315_10316_100031_10099_10078_10079_10103_10073_10102_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=46b57f1d-3e08-4b60-9cca-0c555c5881d1&algo_expid=ccb9b980-4b14-4ae6-a5b8-ec4b66352fda-0&algo_pvid=ccb9b980-4b14-4ae6-a5b8-ec4b66352fda) but I can't find the white ones (I guess some backlit pbt, but which ones specifically I can't tell)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 18 August 2017, 09:29:43
    Quote from: Daniel on Fri, 18 August 2017, 09:10:15
    Hey
    What are these keycaps (from QWERTY and below, the white ones)?
    https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/hammer-jello-artisan-keycap/361A5635_20170811153722.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1

    It looks great and I'm trying to do something similar, I found the gradient top row (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Backlit-Doubleshot-Gradient-PBT-Keycap-Set/32734342373.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10065_10151_10068_10172_10326_10084_10083_10080_10307_10082_10081_10110_10137_10111_10060_10112_10113_10155_10114_10154_10056_10055_10054_10312_10313_10059_10314_10315_10316_100031_10099_10078_10079_10103_10073_10102_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=46b57f1d-3e08-4b60-9cca-0c555c5881d1&algo_expid=ccb9b980-4b14-4ae6-a5b8-ec4b66352fda-0&algo_pvid=ccb9b980-4b14-4ae6-a5b8-ec4b66352fda) but I can't find the white ones (I guess some backlit pbt, but which ones specifically I can't tell)

    Huh? Those artisans look like they were designed for keyboards with TrackPoints. Interesting..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KeLorean on Sat, 19 August 2017, 12:03:44
    i got a couple questions:
    1) how to i add a picture in my post so that is shows up in the tapatalk feed? what i mean is as you scroll through topics some have pictures just below the title.  that's what I'm trying to do.
    2) why are some topics bold face and others regular font?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: teamrushpntball on Sat, 19 August 2017, 17:59:48
    So, I assume this is the best place to ask this:  Is there a keyboard with no f-row but still has numpad?  Ideally numpad on left?

    Dream would be a 60% with attached left numpad.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 19 August 2017, 18:18:44
    Quote from: teamrushpntball on Sat, 19 August 2017, 17:59:48
    So, I assume this is the best place to ask this:  Is there a keyboard with no f-row but still has numpad?  Ideally numpad on left?

    Dream would be a 60% with attached left numpad.

    (http://i.imgur.com/vxxZnge.jpg)
    Photo: koalapear (The Monarch w/left-hand placed right-hand oriented numpad)

    [GB] The Monarch: Alps 60%+LHTK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75786.0) Initially comes to mind but there's probably a current/easily accessible model available that I'm not aware of
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 19 August 2017, 21:14:25
    Quote from: csmertx on Sat, 19 August 2017, 18:18:44
    Quote from: teamrushpntball on Sat, 19 August 2017, 17:59:48
    So, I assume this is the best place to ask this:  Is there a keyboard with no f-row but still has numpad?  Ideally numpad on left?

    Dream would be a 60% with attached left numpad.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/vxxZnge.jpg)

    Photo: koalapear (The Monarch w/left-hand placed right-hand oriented numpad)

    [GB] The Monarch: Alps 60%+LHTK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75786.0) Initially comes to mind but there's probably a current/easily accessible model available that I'm not aware of



    This  (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88951.msg2404853#msg2404853)might interest you


    (http://i.imgur.com/IY1n1IZ.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 4sStylZ on Wed, 23 August 2017, 04:50:31
    I want to build an alp-switch keyboard. Where can I buy switchs (who ship in France) ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Thu, 24 August 2017, 04:24:27
    Pretty sure it doesn't but just to make sure, the Poker II/Poker 2 doesn't have the ability to use the regular number row keys are number pad/numpad keys via some Fn combo does it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 123pcs on Thu, 31 August 2017, 00:17:23
    is there a nice windows program that mimics xcape from linux?

    I've found that xcape on linux works tremendously well for the hhkb pro 2.  For those that are not familiar with xcape, it can shift buttons around but it can also allow a held button to act as another button.  As a linux user, I often use vim to write code during work.  Control is needed for some nice functions but it happens to be in a place where most vim users have adjusted caps to be escape to get out of modes.  With xcape, tapping control acts as esc and holding control acts as control normally would.  To trigger f4 as another example, you can just hold 4.

    I can't seem to find an equivalent to xcape on windows which really sucks since I have 2 stations I use for doing work and only have 1 kb.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 31 August 2017, 21:36:22
    (http://)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: J-Bird on Sat, 02 September 2017, 02:06:18
    Hello, my first post here.

    What is the consensus on Chinese mechanical keyboards? Are brands such as Ajazz, Aula, Dareu, Noppoo, Rapoo, Team Wolf (and others) good value for money? Any of their models particularly worth checking out? Or are they all best avoided?

    Also, how much worse are the Chinese-made switches (Kailh, Outemu, ...) compared to Cherry MX?

    I have an opportunity to buy one of these keyboards from Taobao but wouldn't want to end up with some inferior product. I've read a number of reviews and opinions with differing conclusions. It would be very helpful if someone more experienced could state what the generally accepted consensus is, perhaps also naming a couple of models that positively stand out (if any).

    If this was already discussed elsewhere, please point me in the right direction. Thanks.

    Follow-up: I ended up getting Magicforce MF82 with Cherry MX browns and Zhuque X05 (87/TKL) with 4 kinds of Gaote switches. Enjoying both of them now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _haru on Sat, 02 September 2017, 02:46:20
    Quote from: J-Bird on Sat, 02 September 2017, 02:06:18
    Hello, my first post here.

    What is the consensus on Chinese mechanical keyboards? Are brands such as Ajazz, Aula, Dareu, Noppoo, Rapoo, Team Wolf (and others) good value for money? Any of their models particularly worth checking out? Or are they all best avoided?

    Also, how much worse are the Chinese-made switches (Kailh, Outemu, ...) compared to Cherry MX?

    I have an opportunity to buy one of these keyboards from Taobao but wouldn't want to end up with some inferior product. I've read a number of reviews and opinions with differing conclusions. It would be very helpful if someone more experienced could state what the generally accepted consensus is, perhaps also naming a couple of models that positively stand out (if any).

    If this was already discussed elsewhere, please point me in the right direction. Thanks.

    New Outemu ICE and Kailh Pro/Speed/BOX switches are magnificent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ergo_guy on Mon, 04 September 2017, 21:15:13
    Why doesn't toggle layer work in my QMK keymap, do I need to enable something in the makefile?  I can make the hex file and flash it and I don't get any errors and the keyboard works other than toggling layers.  If I hold raise or lower it works fine like it is supposed to, but when I double tap to toggle layers it does not.  The keymap is attached.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 08 September 2017, 04:41:27
    Hello, I'm kindly asking a suggestion about the best converter to connect an IBM model F AT keyboard to the USB port.
    In this page there are liste an at to ps and a ps to usb converter.
    http://clickykeyboards.com/product-category/ps2-keyboard-to-usb-adapter-converters/

    I know about orihalcon made soarer's, and that's a connector that I will buy in the near future.

    Thanks in advance
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 4sStylZ on Fri, 08 September 2017, 11:00:08
    I search some reference for making a keyboard with clickbuttons (with a trackpoint). Have you some links with click switch and the keycaps for it ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 09 September 2017, 13:36:53
    Are there any vintage keyboard in existence (preferably w/ beige keycaps) which have these kind of caps?

    http://cherryamericas.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/12.gif

    I'm looking for keys in the F profile. Seems that the mold exists at GMK though as Ivan's Miami Nights and also some IC check he did for a vintage beige set which I forget the name of.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmba on Wed, 13 September 2017, 11:49:44
    any harm in hot gluing switches to a brass plate if the switch openings are big enough to shake confidence in my ability to solder everything in straight?  some brand switches fall out with very light pressure to give you an idea of the size.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 13 September 2017, 12:49:07
    Quote from: tameone on Wed, 13 September 2017, 11:49:44
    any harm in hot gluing switches to a brass plate if the switch openings are big enough to shake confidence in my ability to solder everything in straight?  some brand switches fall out with very light pressure to give you an idea of the size.

    Not necessarily a bad thing to do, in terms of harming the switches.  I'd just be extra careful to properly align them when you glue them, obviously.  Does the PCB not support PCB-mounted switches?  Ultimately that will give you the best control over the placement of the switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kmba on Wed, 13 September 2017, 13:19:32
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 13 September 2017, 12:49:07
    Quote from: tameone on Wed, 13 September 2017, 11:49:44
    any harm in hot gluing switches to a brass plate if the switch openings are big enough to shake confidence in my ability to solder everything in straight?  some brand switches fall out with very light pressure to give you an idea of the size.

    Not necessarily a bad thing to do, in terms of harming the switches.  I'd just be extra careful to properly align them when you glue them, obviously.  Does the PCB not support PCB-mounted switches?  Ultimately that will give you the best control over the placement of the switches.

    It does, but as is customary these days, the holes are too small to actually fit any switches with the legs that I tried (zealio, gateron), and a majority of switches aren't available in pcb mount anyway (the ones I want to use, kailh box).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Wed, 13 September 2017, 15:38:22
    I've recently heard that glue can get inside switches and mess them up; no personal experience with that though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers - best EU source of Cherry Silver switches?
    Post by: menuhin on Sat, 16 September 2017, 13:52:12
    What are the best / cheapest sources of CHERRY MX SPEED RGB Silver switches?

    When I am located in Germany.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 17 September 2017, 14:32:47
    https://m.reichelt.de

    They have the cherry MX speed. Not RGB though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rodde on Sun, 17 September 2017, 21:15:20
    Are there any options for non-linear "silent" switches? As silent as possible, meant for the workplace. All I've found on actual boards so far are the Matias Quiet switches.

    For a non-workplace board - if I'm enjoying MX Greens greatly, are there any other switches I should be considering? I do like the click, and the weight.

    Thanks!
    Rodde
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DALExSNAIL on Sun, 17 September 2017, 21:51:19
    Quote from: Rodde on Sun, 17 September 2017, 21:15:20
    Are there any options for non-linear "silent" switches? As silent as possible, meant for the workplace. All I've found on actual boards so far are the Matias Quiet switches.

    For a non-workplace board - if I'm enjoying MX Greens greatly, are there any other switches I should be considering? I do like the click, and the weight.

    Thanks!
    Rodde


    Current presale of Silent Browns here for relatively cheap.
    https://kbdfans.cn/collections/group-buy/products/pre-orderkbdfans-exclusive-gateron-silent-switch-red-brown-blak (https://kbdfans.cn/collections/group-buy/products/pre-orderkbdfans-exclusive-gateron-silent-switch-red-brown-blak)

    Also Topre is a great option for the workplace imo, some silencing options as well as pre-silenced models.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hackware on Wed, 20 September 2017, 11:11:15
    Brand new iKBC MF108.

    Reset procedure to use as a normal keyboard.

    thanx...

    william...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 September 2017, 11:19:11
    Quote from: hackware on Wed, 20 September 2017, 11:11:15
    Brand new iKBC MF108.

    Reset procedure to use as a normal keyboard.

    thanx...

    william...


    Not exactly sure what you are asking but here is all I could find

    https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/bfd495_bd33ea6d668547039f1e8f3f49bd5cd2.pdf
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: toan on Wed, 20 September 2017, 12:26:14
    Hey guys
    I have RS96 with frost acrylic at the bottom. I wonder if the ZZ96 aluminum case will fit PCB and Plate from RS96? If yes, is it easy to install?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hackware on Wed, 20 September 2017, 20:40:27
    Seems simple to me.  A brand new intelligent keyboard, should have a mode, to act like a simple querty keyboard.  It should not just act like a simple keyboard, but should BE said querty keyboard. 

    william...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asdfghjkl123456789 on Sun, 24 September 2017, 02:36:57
    Hi.
    i want to  shorten my g80-1800 to a 60%/65%.
    Questions:
    1. what should i use to cut the plastic without makeing a lot of damage?
    2. what should i use to fill the gaps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AuRinBei on Mon, 25 September 2017, 03:31:24
    Can someone who has a GH60 revC ANSI Poker non-split right shift layout hex file that they know works with 100% certainty (as in you flashed it and used it) link me to it? I need one to figure out whether I have a hardware issue or whether I'm doing something wrong with software.

    I found one 8 posts down in https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78955.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78955.0) that worked for purposes of my testing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: menuhin on Thu, 05 October 2017, 03:14:43
    Simple questions:

    Wired Keyboard options for iPad and iPad mini 1/2/3/4:

    1. Which 60% keyboard(s) can be connected to an iPad with the lightning-USB camera adapter?
    2. Which 40% keyboard(s) can be connected to an iPad with the lightning-USB camera adapter?
    3. What extra adapter / connector can be used so that a keyboard with an original spec with too high voltage requirement can be connected to an iPad and function like those low-voltage ones?
    4. Can there be a software or hardware hack (e.g. extra chip) to change or switch a high-voltage spec keyboard to a low-voltage one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: razzlesama on Tue, 10 October 2017, 03:11:14
    Guys, just a few quick questions before i buy everything for my first build,

    Here's what i selected for a full build:
    PCB - https://goo.gl/8H2UwP
    Case - https://goo.gl/E9YorZ
    Key Caps - https://goo.gl/B3ALzF
    Stabilizers - https://goo.gl/YvvJUE
    Plate - https://goo.gl/mm2sQv
    Feet - https://goo.gl/PWgy2A

    1. I'm not really sure which switch i should select for the RGB lighting... None of the listings have clear switches for sale. What should i select. I need Gateron Blues but I'm fine with CMX Blues as well. - Do they have to be clear for the RGB lights to shine through?

    2. Do i have to get hot-swap pins for the board i selected or do they come pre-installed?

    3. I don't know how many stabilizers I should get or what sizes they should be


    Thanks!!! <3
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: menuhin on Tue, 10 October 2017, 04:00:46
    Quote from: razzlesama on Tue, 10 October 2017, 03:11:14
    Guys, just a few quick questions before i buy everything for my first build,

    Here's what i selected for a full build:
    PCB - https://goo.gl/8H2UwP
    Case - https://goo.gl/E9YorZ
    Key Caps - https://goo.gl/B3ALzF
    Stabilizers - https://goo.gl/YvvJUE
    Plate - https://goo.gl/mm2sQv
    Feet - https://goo.gl/PWgy2A

    1. I'm not really sure which switch i should select for the RGB lighting... None of the listings have clear switches for sale. What should i select. I need Gateron Blues but I'm fine with CMX Blues as well. - Do they have to be clear for the RGB lights to shine through?

    2. Do i have to get hot-swap pins for the board i selected or do they come pre-installed?

    3. I don't know how many stabilizers I should get or what sizes they should be


    Thanks!!! <3

    First of all, if you buy products from KBDfans, you can also ask them questions..

    Ans:
    1. You don't need clear switches to for those LED units attached to switch to work. Translucent switches, e.g. milky housing Gaterons, and switches with transparent housings, e.g. Zealios theoretically help to diffuse the light better. But the "shine through"? You had better look at shine-through key caps to have the effect.

    2. hot-swap pins are not pre-installed. Except for those PCB that explicitly described as "hotswappable" already, e.g. ortholinear XD75DE recently.

    3. One pack of stabilizers, labelled for the whole 60% keyboard, should be enough, except when you want to have split-spacebar setting.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: razzlesama on Tue, 10 October 2017, 05:08:21
    Quote from: menuhin on Tue, 10 October 2017, 04:00:46

    First of all, if you buy products from KBDfans, you can also ask them questions..

    Ans:
    1. You don't need clear switches to for those LED units attached to switch to work. Translucent switches, e.g. milky housing Gaterons, and switches with transparent housings, e.g. Zealios theoretically help to diffuse the light better. But the "shine through"? You had better look at shine-through key caps to have the effect.

    2. hot-swap pins are not pre-installed. Except for those PCB that explicitly described as "hotswappable" already, e.g. ortholinear XD75DE recently.

    3. One pack of stabilizers, labelled for the whole 60% keyboard, should be enough, except when you want to have split-spacebar setting.


    I selected the GK64 60% RGB hotswappable board.
    (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/files/1_01_4f15175c-53ef-4791-8c91-8917449231b8.jpg?v=1506327214)

    This seems to have SMD RGB LEDs. And they are soldered onto the board. Which means the switches have to be transparent right?

    Also, the listing says "Hotswappable".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: menuhin on Tue, 10 October 2017, 13:32:15
    Quote from: razzlesama on Tue, 10 October 2017, 05:08:21
    ...

    I selected the GK64 60% RGB hotswappable board.
    Show Image
    (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/files/1_01_4f15175c-53ef-4791-8c91-8917449231b8.jpg?v=1506327214)


    This seems to have SMD RGB LEDs. And they are soldered onto the board. Which means the switches have to be transparent right?

    Also, the listing says "Hotswappable".

    "Hotswappable" - Then that means you don't need to install those receptacles by yourself, i.e. they are already there.
    For the onboard RGB like the Zeal60, it is better to use switches with transparent or translucent / milky housing.

    The final answer should be given to you by KDBfans - they are pretty responsive, so just ask them.

    I hope someone can really answer my questions above...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 11 October 2017, 02:26:02
    I busted the pcb of my Duck Butterfly/Lightpad so I need to get a new one.

    KBD4U.co.kr sells new ones (http://m.kbd4u.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=27&cate_no=38&display_group=1) but I have no clue how to order in Korean.

    We used to have several vendors that could help with that but I have no idea where they are nowadays.
    Can anyone direct me to a trustworthy one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mudcakehoney on Sun, 15 October 2017, 08:26:00
    Can I add rgb LED’s to a tada68 DIY kit and will the software control it?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fright01 on Mon, 16 October 2017, 17:00:53
    I have a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 v1.0 and I found numerous 3key combinations that do not work that interfere with my usage. The most disruptive is W+A blocks G. My questions are:
    1. What's the deal? How is it that the W+A combination blocks out numerous keys, like Y, P, G, K, B, RIGHT_ARROW, KP1, KP4, KP7 and maybe more?
    2. Are there any similarly comfortable and ergonomic keyboards that do not suffer this problem, whether it's a better layout of blocked keys or a NKRO keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Mon, 16 October 2017, 18:36:39
    Quote from: fright01 on Mon, 16 October 2017, 17:00:53
    I have a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 v1.0 and I found numerous 3key combinations that do not work that interfere with my usage. The most disruptive is W+A blocks G. My questions are:
    1. What's the deal? How is it that the W+A combination blocks out numerous keys, like Y, P, G, K, B, RIGHT_ARROW, KP1, KP4, KP7 and maybe more?
    2. Are there any similarly comfortable and ergonomic keyboards that do not suffer this problem, whether it's a better layout of blocked keys or a NKRO keyboard?

    Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 does not have N-Key Rollover or Anti-Ghosting capabilities, so you can't press more than 2 keys at a time

    if you search keyboards that support N-Key Rollover, you should be able to find a good replacement. the only one i know of is the ergodox
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fright01 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 13:29:42
    Quote from: nmur on Mon, 16 October 2017, 18:36:39
    Quote from: fright01 on Mon, 16 October 2017, 17:00:53
    I have a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 v1.0 and I found numerous 3key combinations that do not work that interfere with my usage. The most disruptive is W+A blocks G. My questions are:
    1. What's the deal? How is it that the W+A combination blocks out numerous keys, like Y, P, G, K, B, RIGHT_ARROW, KP1, KP4, KP7 and maybe more?
    2. Are there any similarly comfortable and ergonomic keyboards that do not suffer this problem, whether it's a better layout of blocked keys or a NKRO keyboard?

    Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 does not have N-Key Rollover or Anti-Ghosting capabilities, so you can't press more than 2 keys at a time

    if you search keyboards that support N-Key Rollover, you should be able to find a good replacement. the only one i know of is the ergodox

    That keyboard looks great. I'd probably miss the keypad but i have a usb one. Thanks so much for the suggestion. It looks wonderful.

    I looked into ghosting and it kind of makes sense what's happening. On this Microsoft keyboard I'm able to press more than 2 keys in most cases. I was mostly curious why W and A would "ghost" all those other keys. Did they try to set up the keys in a unique way such that different key combinations would be least likely to block eachother?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 18 October 2017, 07:02:15
    Are there any off the shelf, mainstream boards that let you remove the top of the switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Thu, 19 October 2017, 02:46:49
    I have a Realforce 87U 10th Anniversary Edition All 45g Silent. I bought this because it's the only non-variable version with 45g, but I prefer the look of the black keyboards. Would it be possible to change the case by unwiring the PCB? Can there be compatibility issues? I read that the Pexon cable for Realforce didn't work with all Realforce keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 4sStylZ on Thu, 19 October 2017, 08:48:48
    I have a finded a Macintosh Portable (1st Apple notebook) : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg2497121#msg2497121

    What’s the keyboards switchs ? They seems amazing. Very tactile.
    How to disassemble it properly ?

    Edit : Seems to be Alps : http://appletothecore.me/files/mac_portable_disassembly.php
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 19 October 2017, 08:59:00
    Quote from: Acerk on Thu, 19 October 2017, 02:46:49
    I have a Realforce 87U 10th Anniversary Edition All 45g Silent. I bought this because it's the only non-variable version with 45g, but I prefer the look of the black keyboards. Would it be possible to change the case by unwiring the PCB? Can there be compatibility issues? I read that the Pexon cable for Realforce didn't work with all Realforce keyboards.

    Defacing a keyboard so utterly perfect and pristine as the RF10AE is a heretic act that will surely be met with scorn and contempt.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 19 October 2017, 21:33:58
    someone on here had a lit board with some light toxic green looking leds, where was it and where do I get some of those leds

    edit: found user, pm'd
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: brownsmith on Tue, 24 October 2017, 01:38:05
    What is the best microphone now in market? and you have good review

    mention this Name.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 24 October 2017, 01:40:06
    Quote from: brownsmith on Tue, 24 October 2017, 01:38:05
    What is the best microphone now in market? and you have good review

    mention this Name.  :)

    blue yeti or blue snowball, popular for portable mic needs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Tue, 24 October 2017, 01:43:20
    wouldn't call them the best mic on the market...

    try Sony C800G
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 02 November 2017, 00:17:19
    what's the secret to lining up 60% plates + pcbs to trays? what screw order
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:44:59
    What boards should I be looking for if I want Cherry MX Whites? I don't think I'm gonna have any luck in the classifieds so I'm gonna maybe buy some boards and desolder.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:22:08
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:44:59
    What boards should I be looking for if I want Cherry MX Whites? I don't think I'm gonna have any luck in the classifieds so I'm gonna maybe buy some boards and desolder.
    Check www.mechanicalkeyboards.com


    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:24:44
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:22:08
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:44:59
    What boards should I be looking for if I want Cherry MX Whites? I don't think I'm gonna have any luck in the classifieds so I'm gonna maybe buy some boards and desolder.
    Check www.mechanicalkeyboards.com


    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    Out of stock  :'( :'( :'(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:26:26
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:24:44
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:22:08
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:44:59
    What boards should I be looking for if I want Cherry MX Whites? I don't think I'm gonna have any luck in the classifieds so I'm gonna maybe buy some boards and desolder.
    Check www.mechanicalkeyboards.com


    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    Out of stock  :'( :'( :'(
    I know you can order the switches loose on eBay from China

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:37:31
    yeah way too expensive unfortunately.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:51:51
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:37:31
    yeah way too expensive unfortunately.
    How much are you looking to spend per switch? Do you need plate or pcb mount??

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:57:35
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:51:51
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:37:31
    yeah way too expensive unfortunately.
    How much are you looking to spend per switch? Do you need plate or pcb mount??

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    I found this

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/61-87-104-108-PCs-Cherry-White-Milky-3-Pin-MX-Series-Mechanical-Switch-DIY/282695556254?var=581923798064&hash=item41d1f7dc9e:m:md3VOpbEqvwXoB94kVfHuww

    but idk how legit this is :O
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:58:32
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:57:35
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:51:51
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:37:31
    yeah way too expensive unfortunately.
    How much are you looking to spend per switch? Do you need plate or pcb mount??

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    I found this

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/61-87-104-108-PCs-Cherry-White-Milky-3-Pin-MX-Series-Mechanical-Switch-DIY/282695556254?var=581923798064&hash=item41d1f7dc9e:m:md3VOpbEqvwXoB94kVfHuww

    but idk how legit this is :O

     He's legit, runs group buys on here sometimes. And I'm pretty sure people have bought whites from him and they click properly.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:04:02
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:58:32
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:57:35
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:51:51
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:37:31
    yeah way too expensive unfortunately.
    How much are you looking to spend per switch? Do you need plate or pcb mount??

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    I found this

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/61-87-104-108-PCs-Cherry-White-Milky-3-Pin-MX-Series-Mechanical-Switch-DIY/282695556254?var=581923798064&hash=item41d1f7dc9e:m:md3VOpbEqvwXoB94kVfHuww

    but idk how legit this is :O

     He's legit, runs group buys on here sometimes. And I'm pretty sure people have bought whites from him and they click properly.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Wish me luck
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _haru on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:07:10
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:04:02
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:58:32
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:57:35
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:51:51
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:37:31
    yeah way too expensive unfortunately.
    How much are you looking to spend per switch? Do you need plate or pcb mount??

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    I found this

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/61-87-104-108-PCs-Cherry-White-Milky-3-Pin-MX-Series-Mechanical-Switch-DIY/282695556254?var=581923798064&hash=item41d1f7dc9e:m:md3VOpbEqvwXoB94kVfHuww

    but idk how legit this is :O

     He's legit, runs group buys on here sometimes. And I'm pretty sure people have bought whites from him and they click properly.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Wish me luck

    Sennin32 is very legit. Bought parts from him several times, and so have some of my friends. The Whites he sells are also the new retooled ones, so they do not have the inconsistency issues they had in the past.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:40:43
    Wasn't sure where best to ask this, and I'm not even sure if this is the best place.

    So for about a year I've been wanting to track down a specific Bro Bot to put on a Realforce RGB. Well I didn't know that Bro Bots have square MX stems. Realforce RGB has MX sliders which have a round cup with the MX cross in the middle. So I'm thinking I'll just need to cut the cup out. Has anyone done this before? Any recommendations?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:02:35
    Quote from: Koatl on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:40:43
    Wasn't sure where best to ask this, and I'm not even sure if this is the best place.

    So for about a year I've been wanting to track down a specific Bro Bot to put on a Realforce RGB. Well I didn't know that Bro Bots have square MX stems. Realforce RGB has MX sliders which have a round cup with the MX cross in the middle. So I'm thinking I'll just need to cut the cup out. Has anyone done this before? Any recommendations?

    probably better off swapping the slider and finding a topre version of the bot?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:08:21
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:02:35
    probably better off swapping the slider and finding a topre version of the bot?

    If so, that could be soul-crushing news haha. It's the Celestial Pink BBv2. Though assuming they even exist in Topre, I bet someone would be willing to trade for my MX.

    Thanks for the reply. I'll keep that in mind. Gonna experiment with an extra slider first.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Tue, 07 November 2017, 09:08:15
    Quote from: Koatl on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:08:21
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:02:35
    probably better off swapping the slider and finding a topre version of the bot?

    If so, that could be soul-crushing news haha. It's the Celestial Pink BBv2. Though assuming they even exist in Topre, I bet someone would be willing to trade for my MX.

    Thanks for the reply. I'll keep that in mind. Gonna experiment with an extra slider first.

    Don't worry about cutting anything up or giving up your dreams. Get your hands on a novatouch or JTK slider for the BB. I can't speak for he JTK slide feel, but it will certainly solve your issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 07 November 2017, 09:41:31
    Quote from: Koatl on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:08:21
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:02:35
    probably better off swapping the slider and finding a topre version of the bot?

    If so, that could be soul-crushing news haha. It's the Celestial Pink BBv2. Though assuming they even exist in Topre, I bet someone would be willing to trade for my MX.

    Thanks for the reply. I'll keep that in mind. Gonna experiment with an extra slider first.

    They definitely exist in topre as I've had one (probably rarer than MX so good luck).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Wed, 08 November 2017, 05:30:01
    Quote from: Koatl on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:08:21
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:02:35
    probably better off swapping the slider and finding a topre version of the bot?

    If so, that could be soul-crushing news haha. It's the Celestial Pink BBv2. Though assuming they even exist in Topre, I bet someone would be willing to trade for my MX.

    Thanks for the reply. I'll keep that in mind. Gonna experiment with an extra slider first.

    if you don't mind shipping to australia, i can trade you mine. it's been sitting in its baggy for too long, would much rather let it be in the hands of someone who's gonna use it

    shoot me a pm
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 08 November 2017, 07:07:15
    Not necessarily a question but rather an answer if people ever needed it. I had a screw in stabilizer wire come loose on a keeb. Not wanting to desolder the whole thing to hook it back in, I used a crochet hook to get in between the pcb and plate and pull it back in place. Worked like a charm.

    (https://i.imgur.com/aNJPeqs.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 November 2017, 07:49:06
    Good tip. I really hate those cases where the stab wire gets between the plate and the PCB and there is near to nothing to do, but taking apart the full thing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _haru on Wed, 08 November 2017, 07:51:37
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 08 November 2017, 07:49:06
    Good tip. I really hate those cases where the stab wire gets between the plate and the PCB and there is near to nothing to do, but taking apart the full thing.

    Tell me about it.. That's the reason I use costar exclusively from now on.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vlada011 on Wed, 08 November 2017, 09:59:06
    I have question about Tex Aluminum case for TKL keyboards.
    My keyboard Deck Francium Pro have not removable power cable, same as Filco TKL keyboards.
    Most of Aluminum cases Vortex and Tex and compatible with Filco keyboards.
    Maybe someone know how much is different PCB od Deck Francium Pro and Filco Majestouch 2?
    Is there any chance to put Francium Pro In same case as Filco.
    I saw on internet some pictures but I didn't notice how they resolved not removable power cable.

    Another question is how much is difference between Tex and Vortex Aluminium cases for TKL keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 08 November 2017, 10:04:56
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 08 November 2017, 07:49:06
    Good tip. I really hate those cases where the stab wire gets between the plate and the PCB and there is near to nothing to do, but taking apart the full thing.

    I'm the other way around, I have a couple boards with plate mounted stabs and I dislike them a lot. I prefer pcb mounted stabs... I've never had issues with wires coming loose except with these zeal stabs, which he acknowledged was an issue.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: te_dulce on Thu, 09 November 2017, 04:06:15
    Do newer/ retooled Matias Quiet Clicks still have the faint click sound on off-center presses? Most notably on the 'top' of the switch (the side where the pins are). I'm seeing a few 'supposedly's but can someone with new quiet clicks vouch for this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Thu, 09 November 2017, 19:43:40
    Quote from: _rubik on Tue, 07 November 2017, 09:08:15
    Don't worry about cutting anything up or giving up your dreams. Get your hands on a novatouch or JTK slider for the BB. I can't speak for he JTK slide feel, but it will certainly solve your issue.

    Realforce RGB has sliders, but their circular part prevents the square part of the BBv2 from being inserted into it. Looks like the TJK sliders would present the same problem. Sucks. Thanks though!

    Quote from: xondat on Tue, 07 November 2017, 09:41:31

    if you don't mind shipping to australia, i can trade you mine. it's been sitting in its baggy for too long, would much rather let it be in the hands of someone who's gonna use it

    shoot me a pm

    Oh dude, thank you! Normally I wouldn't mind at all and would be eager to do the trade, but my cousin bought me this cap. There's nothing in the world i would trade or sell this thing for, unless he wanted it for some reason. Seriously though, thank you for being willing to do that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 09 November 2017, 21:57:11
    With these Leeku TX87 PCB's do you have to define which spacebar spacing that you are using for it to work properly? Every key on the board besides space is working. I had it at 6.25 earlier and it was working but it isn't on 7...

    Nvm it looks like one of the pads for the different spacebar widths came up. The trace goes through all of the pads before it gets to the diode.

    What gauge wire should I use to fix this?

    Nvm that theory was wrong. idk what the **** is wrong now I don't see any broken traces :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 10 November 2017, 00:02:20
    UNsoldered the spacebar and cleaned it up heres what the pads look like. As you can see the ones on the right are damaged. But I'm used the 7x holes to the left which look good and I don't see broken traces...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:29:18
    Geekhack meta question: why do IC OPs post 'Reserved' in the first comment? Is that to save the top comment stop in case they need to use it for updates etc? Why not just update the original post.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:34:40
    Quote from: _rubik on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:29:18
    Geekhack meta question: why do IC OPs post 'Reserved' in the first comment? Is that to save the top comment stop in case they need to use it for updates etc? Why not just update the original post.

    I used my 'reserved' post for a todo list. Other people do different things with the additional post. Depends on the intention of the individual I guess.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:36:19
    Quote from: csmertx on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:34:40
    Quote from: _rubik on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:29:18
    Geekhack meta question: why do IC OPs post 'Reserved' in the first comment? Is that to save the top comment stop in case they need to use it for updates etc? Why not just update the original post.

    I used my 'reserved' post for a todo list. Other people do different things with the additional post. Depends on the intention of the individual I guess.

    But overall it's just to save the top comment for later use. Makes sense. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:50:14
    Quote from: _rubik on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:36:19
    Quote from: csmertx on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:34:40
    Quote from: _rubik on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:29:18
    Geekhack meta question: why do IC OPs post 'Reserved' in the first comment? Is that to save the top comment stop in case they need to use it for updates etc? Why not just update the original post.

    I used my 'reserved' post for a todo list. Other people do different things with the additional post. Depends on the intention of the individual I guess.

    But overall it's just to save the top comment for later use. Makes sense. Thanks!

    Sure thing :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Doofy on Sun, 12 November 2017, 18:48:25
    Hello guys! First post ever here!

    So I'm about to purchase a Outemu Blue Magicforece keyboard, I am wanting to put 80g springs in it, now I'm pretty sure a cheap Outemu board will end up being PCB mounted so it'll be an easy job. I am wanting to know, if the keyboard has LEDs on the board, is it still as simple as popping off the top and replacing the spring or will this require desolder? Also will it take cherry keycaps and springs in the first place? thanks guys!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 12 November 2017, 19:11:15
    Quote from: Doofy on Sun, 12 November 2017, 18:48:25
    Hello guys! First post ever here!

    So I'm about to purchase a Outemu Blue Magicforece keyboard, I am wanting to put 80g springs in it, now I'm pretty sure a cheap Outemu board will end up being PCB mounted so it'll be an easy job. I am wanting to know, if the keyboard has LEDs on the board, is it still as simple as popping off the top and replacing the spring or will this require desolder? Also will it take cherry keycaps and springs in the first place? thanks guys!

    Magicforce is plate mounted, so you'd need to desolder.

    (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB17R8ILFXXXXacXXXXq6xXFXXXY/Magicforce-Smart-68-Keys-Non-Backlit-Antighosting-USB-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Aluminium-Alloy-Outemu-Blue-Black.jpg)

    You'd need switch holes in this approximate shape to take the tops of without desoldering:

    (https://i.imgur.com/2zFAkb1.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _haru on Sun, 12 November 2017, 19:21:47
    Quote from: Doofy on Sun, 12 November 2017, 18:48:25
    Hello guys! First post ever here!

    So I'm about to purchase a Outemu Blue Magicforece keyboard, I am wanting to put 80g springs in it, now I'm pretty sure a cheap Outemu board will end up being PCB mounted so it'll be an easy job. I am wanting to know, if the keyboard has LEDs on the board, is it still as simple as popping off the top and replacing the spring or will this require desolder? Also will it take cherry keycaps and springs in the first place? thanks guys!

    Xondat is correct - you need to desolder it. Bit since you're basically gutting the case, you might as well have a MF68 PCB made (http://www.40percent.club/2016/11/mf68-revised-pcb.html) and put that in. There are also older versions of the Outemu Teal (like a Blue but heavier) switch that have 80g springs already in them: https://mehkee.com/products/outemu-switches-purple-teal?variant=48787381391 Make sure you buy from that link because the new ones are 68g, not 80.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Doofy on Sun, 12 November 2017, 20:11:59
    Thanks for the info guys! I was actually crushing on Cherry Blacks for a long time till I found out they were scratchy and apparently felt horrible. I've recently been hearing of "new" blacks that have just came out, any info on that and if its true, how I could find a board with the improved ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 12 November 2017, 20:19:48
    Quote from: Doofy on Sun, 12 November 2017, 20:11:59
    Thanks for the info guys! I was actually crushing on Cherry Blacks for a long time till I found out they were scratchy and apparently felt horrible. I've recently been hearing of "new" blacks that have just came out, any info on that and if its true, how I could find a board with the improved ones?

    The molds have been altered/redesigned or something. The end effect is that they're really smooth compared to the past.

    Not sure about finding a stock board with the new ones in as they aren't sorted separately. Best bet would be building your own board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Sun, 12 November 2017, 21:22:32
    Quote from: Doofy on Sun, 12 November 2017, 18:48:25
    Hello guys! First post ever here!

    So I'm about to purchase a Outemu Blue Magicforece keyboard, I am wanting to put 80g springs in it, now I'm pretty sure a cheap Outemu board will end up being PCB mounted so it'll be an easy job. I am wanting to know, if the keyboard has LEDs on the board, is it still as simple as popping off the top and replacing the spring or will this require desolder? Also will it take cherry keycaps and springs in the first place? thanks guys!

    Probably best to piece together a custom keyboard rather than strip apart a Magicforce. Although, it would make a decent practice board for that sort of thing. And yes, desoldering 100%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Doofy on Sun, 12 November 2017, 21:38:49
    I cant solder so thats going to be an issue to build my own, unless you can get stuff that is partly done or something? I think budget would be too low anyway, I cant spend anymore than 100 on the full thing. I will someday though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 13 November 2017, 19:11:10
    Quote from: _rubik on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:36:19
    Quote from: csmertx on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:34:40
    Quote from: _rubik on Sat, 11 November 2017, 23:29:18
    Geekhack meta question: why do IC OPs post 'Reserved' in the first comment? Is that to save the top comment stop in case they need to use it for updates etc? Why not just update the original post.

    I used my 'reserved' post for a todo list. Other people do different things with the additional post. Depends on the intention of the individual I guess.

    But overall it's just to save the top comment for later use. Makes sense. Thanks!

    There is also a max character count for posts (can't remember what it is), so reserving helps just in case you might reach that limit.  But mostly it's to separate content into different logical groupings, as csmertx said.  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 13 November 2017, 19:28:06
    Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 13 November 2017, 19:11:10

    There is also a max character count for posts (can't remember what it is),


    I think that I hit it once (maybe on my ebay dissertation) and it was driving me crazy until I realized that there was a limit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: schiorean on Tue, 14 November 2017, 01:37:06
    Hi,

    I want to sell my mech kb, is there a reason why I can't post to classifieds? Or where can I post a sell topic?

    Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 14 November 2017, 02:03:04
    Quote from: schiorean on Tue, 14 November 2017, 01:37:06
    Hi,

    I want to sell my mech kb, is there a reason why I can't post to classifieds? Or where can I post a sell topic?

    Thank you.

    Your thread has to be approved by a Moderator first I believe.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: schiorean on Tue, 14 November 2017, 02:29:41
    Quote from: OfTheWild on Tue, 14 November 2017, 02:03:04
    Your thread has to be approved by a Moderator first I believe.

    The problem is that I don't even see "new topic" button inside classifieds forum.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: J-Bird on Tue, 14 November 2017, 03:24:15
    Quote from: schiorean on Tue, 14 November 2017, 02:29:41
    The problem is that I don't even see "new topic" button inside classifieds forum.
    The reason:
    Quote from: fartq on Sun, 29 July 2012, 09:51:16
    TL;DR YOU NEED AT LEAST 25 POSTS AND 60 DAYS OF MEMBERSHIP TO POST NEW TOPICS IN CLASSIFIEDS & GROUP BUYS  :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: menuhin on Wed, 15 November 2017, 12:36:09
    GH Oracles,

    Is there any 40% or 60% Bluetooth keyboard kit out there?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 15 November 2017, 12:54:09
    Quote from: menuhin on Wed, 15 November 2017, 12:36:09
    GH Oracles,

    Is there any 40% or 60% Bluetooth keyboard kit out there?

    I'm not the guy you want to save after you collect all the keys but I've read of Bluefruit. Seems to be a relatively decent solution for 'diy' bluetooth hid. Not exactly a kit. If you can contact a local Adafruit representative maybe they can guide you through what you need to complete the project.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Floofs on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:28:37
    Does the Northgate Omnikey 102 have a non-mechanical version? Are they only either white or blue alps? First post here also. Hope I didn't do it wrong! Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 19 November 2017, 15:34:06
    Quote from: Floofs on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:28:37
    Does the Northgate Omnikey 102 have a non-mechanical version?

    Are they only either white or blue alps?


    I am pretty sure that Omnikeys only came with Alps, although there are complicated and simplified versions out there, depending on date.

    Here is everything that you need to know on the subject:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45456.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45456.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goose114 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 20:25:16
    I've done some searching, but haven't found anything promising so maybe someone knows. Is there any such thing as a layout that is tenkeyless, removes the nav cluster, but keeps the grouped function keys (and uses a layer for navigation)? Basically, a standard US101/104 layout minus everything to the right of F12/Backspace/Enter/etc. The 75% layout seems kind of close, but all of those seem to have function keys in one continuous row. Would it be feasible to build such a thing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 20 November 2017, 21:26:28
    Quote from: goose114 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 20:25:16
    I've done some searching, but haven't found anything promising so maybe someone knows. Is there any such thing as a layout that is tenkeyless, removes the nav cluster, but keeps the grouped function keys (and uses a layer for navigation)? Basically, a standard US101/104 layout minus everything to the right of F12/Backspace/Enter/etc. The 75% layout seems kind of close, but all of those seem to have function keys in one continuous row. Would it be feasible to build such a thing?

    Sure definitely!
    There have been a few builds similar to what you described.

    Check out Talking Tree’s Project Toad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91388) for example =)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: goose114 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 21:33:55
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Mon, 20 November 2017, 21:26:28
    Sure definitely!
    There have been a few builds similar to what you described.

    Check out Talking Tree’s Project Toad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91388) for example =)

    Yes, that's almost exactly what I've been hoping to find! This gives me some hope. Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: foisoter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:42:14
    Hi guys :-) Could you please help me with a recommendation. I would like to buy a mechanical keyboard that:
    * is silent
    * 75% form factor (i need dedicated keys for arrows)
    * has backlight
    * is black
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:45:32
    Quote from: foisoter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:42:14
    Hi guys :-) Could you please help me with a recommendation. I would like to buy a mechanical keyboard that:
    * is black

    Now THAT is racist. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:47:52
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:45:32
    Quote from: foisoter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:42:14
    Hi guys :-) Could you please help me with a recommendation. I would like to buy a mechanical keyboard that:
    * is black

    Now THAT is racist. :)
    Well he said black and silent,  can't argue with that.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:48:40
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:47:52
    Quote from: digi on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:45:32
    Quote from: foisoter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:42:14
    Hi guys :-) Could you please help me with a recommendation. I would like to buy a mechanical keyboard that:
    * is black

    Now THAT is racist. :)
    Well he said black and silent,  can't argue with that.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk



     :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: daskeybo on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:58:34
    Quote from: J-Bird on Tue, 14 November 2017, 03:24:15
    Quote from: schiorean on Tue, 14 November 2017, 02:29:41
    The problem is that I don't even see "new topic" button inside classifieds forum.
    The reason:
    Quote from: fartq on Sun, 29 July 2012, 09:51:16
    TL;DR YOU NEED AT LEAST 25 POSTS AND 60 DAYS OF MEMBERSHIP TO POST NEW TOPICS IN CLASSIFIEDS & GROUP BUYS  :-*

    Good to know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Doofy on Tue, 21 November 2017, 13:45:01
    Quote from: foisoter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:42:14
    Hi guys :-) Could you please help me with a recommendation. I would like to buy a mechanical keyboard that:
    * is silent
    * 75% form factor (i need dedicated keys for arrows)
    * has backlight
    * is black

    You may want to look around at Chinese boards, you'll find one in that market easily. Something with Gateron Clears could probably be found in a 75% form factor.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 22 November 2017, 01:05:46
    Hi guys. I have a question. Do Alps have the same distance between mount plate and PCB like cherrys, which is 3.5 mm?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: foisoter on Thu, 23 November 2017, 12:37:27
    Quote from: foisoter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:42:14
    Hi guys :-) Could you please help me with a recommendation. I would like to buy a mechanical keyboard that:
    * is silent
    * 75% form factor (i need dedicated keys for arrows)
    * has backlight
    * is black

    Ok, so there aren't that many options for 75%. How about a tenkeyless, what would you recommend?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Duckyreddy on Thu, 23 November 2017, 12:42:29
    Quote from: foisoter on Thu, 23 November 2017, 12:37:27
    Quote from: foisoter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:42:14
    Hi guys :-) Could you please help me with a recommendation. I would like to buy a mechanical keyboard that:
    * is silent
    * 75% form factor (i need dedicated keys for arrows)
    * has backlight
    * is black

    Ok, so there aren't that many options for 75%. How about a tenkeyless, what would you recommend?

    Any switch preference? and how much are you willing to spend? :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: foisoter on Thu, 23 November 2017, 14:42:40
    No and like 100$
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Duckyreddy on Thu, 23 November 2017, 15:12:47
    Quote from: foisoter on Thu, 23 November 2017, 14:42:40
    No and like 100$

    Check out something like the Ducky One TKL's on mechanicalkeyboards.com.
    You have a few switches to choose from and also as backlight and Doubleshot PBT's which should last you a while.
    The build quality is there and is straight up simple, around $99.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: menuhin on Thu, 23 November 2017, 21:48:08
    Simple question:

    Is there any number pad kit out there for Alps switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: daskeybo on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:52:44
    No.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 27 November 2017, 10:33:20
    removed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 27 November 2017, 11:07:41
    I think that I have a Genovation with simplified Alps that could be upgraded to better switches, but I have never actually opened it up.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: onefunkynote on Thu, 30 November 2017, 09:14:39
    I've been using a Vortex Pok3r with MX Clears as my daily driver for a bout a year now.  I just got a KUL with MX Clears for my birthday and right off the bat something about the KUL just doesn't feel right.  The KUL just feels way more "Mushy" than the pok3r does.  Is this from me using the pok3r for longer or is there a significant difference in the build? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Thu, 30 November 2017, 09:16:45
    Quote from: onefunkynote on Thu, 30 November 2017, 09:14:39
    I've been using a Vortex Pok3r with MX Clears as my daily driver for a bout a year now.  I just got a KUL with MX Clears for my birthday and right off the bat something about the KUL just doesn't feel right.  The KUL just feels way more "Mushy" than the pok3r does.  Is this from me using the pok3r for longer or is there a significant difference in the build?

    If I'm not mistaken, KUL is a plastic board, and Pok3r is aluminum with a T H I C C (steel?) plate. That's most likely the difference you're feeling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: onefunkynote on Thu, 30 November 2017, 09:20:07
    Quote from: _rubik on Thu, 30 November 2017, 09:16:45
    Quote from: onefunkynote on Thu, 30 November 2017, 09:14:39
    I've been using a Vortex Pok3r with MX Clears as my daily driver for a bout a year now.  I just got a KUL with MX Clears for my birthday and right off the bat something about the KUL just doesn't feel right.  The KUL just feels way more "Mushy" than the pok3r does.  Is this from me using the pok3r for longer or is there a significant difference in the build?

    If I'm not mistaken, KUL is a plastic board, and Pok3r is aluminum with a T H I C C (steel?) plate. That's most likely the difference you're feeling.

    You are correct, I just didn't realize it would make the switches feel THAT much different.  The more you know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: menuhin on Thu, 30 November 2017, 10:23:35
    Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 27 November 2017, 10:33:20
    Quote from: menuhin on Thu, 23 November 2017, 21:48:08
    Simple question:

    Is there any number pad kit out there for Alps switches?

    I will make one for you

     :cool: :cool: :cool:
    You can make one, I can take good photos for you and plan a top marketing strategy.
    It will make pocket money for you as good as (or at least 75%) RAMA's products - there are some CAD design gods in RAMA.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: onefunkynote on Fri, 01 December 2017, 09:49:45
    For anyone that has a Vortex Pok3r and other Vortex keyboards, do the switches and stabs feel the same across the different boards?  I.E. does the pok3r feel the same as a Race or other model?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: manna on Fri, 01 December 2017, 14:43:21
    Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to place the inners of a Novatouch in the case of a Wasd keyboard case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 December 2017, 16:59:41
    Quote from: manna on Fri, 01 December 2017, 14:43:21
    Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to place the inners of a Novatouch in the case of a Wasd keyboard case?
    I'm 99.9% sure the answer is no but hacksaws, glue and duct tape make anything possible if you're crazy enough.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: manna on Sat, 02 December 2017, 11:18:04
    Bummer, I wanted one because to me it seems like DSA keycaps looks better on a larger case.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: divito on Sun, 03 December 2017, 10:33:18
    Does anyone know what kind of foam comes in some of the keycap boxes like these:

    (https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/015/586/277/8593f354c7e7b5d9d78607b65aed086a_original.jpg?w=639&fit=max&v=1487690449&auto=format&q=92&s=be8aeeeeb48c02b1785e00f05f6d5527)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Sun, 03 December 2017, 12:41:15
    Quote from: divito on Sun, 03 December 2017, 10:33:18
    Does anyone know what kind of foam comes in some of the keycap boxes like these:

    Show Image
    (https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/015/586/277/8593f354c7e7b5d9d78607b65aed086a_original.jpg?w=639&fit=max&v=1487690449&auto=format&q=92&s=be8aeeeeb48c02b1785e00f05f6d5527)


    Not 100% sure, but I would guess its high density, closed cell, neoprene foam. Someone please correct me if I'm very wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 04 December 2017, 14:12:35
    Where to buy switch stickers these days? Sherry doesn't have any :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 04 December 2017, 14:24:09
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 04 December 2017, 14:12:35
    Where to buy switch stickers these days? Sherry doesn't have any :(

    Techkeys.us has some

    But all the cool kids are using these

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92806.msg2529398.msg#2529398

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 04 December 2017, 15:04:07
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 04 December 2017, 14:24:09
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Mon, 04 December 2017, 14:12:35
    Where to buy switch stickers these days? Sherry doesn't have any :(

    Techkeys.us has some

    But all the cool kids are using these

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92806.msg2529398.msg#2529398

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    That's neat. Are there any shops with them or am I at the mercy of the GB
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: unnatural on Tue, 05 December 2017, 14:55:23
    With mx-compatible type switches, like on the realforce rgb, is there a simple way to fit traditional Topre keycaps on the switch?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 December 2017, 15:09:00
    Quote from: unnatural on Tue, 05 December 2017, 14:55:23
    With mx-compatible type switches, like on the realforce rgb, is there a simple way to fit traditional Topre keycaps on the switch?

    They aren't switches but rather sliders and no they are not backwards compatible with standard topre keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: unnatural on Tue, 05 December 2017, 15:18:02
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 December 2017, 15:09:00
    Quote from: unnatural on Tue, 05 December 2017, 14:55:23
    With mx-compatible type switches, like on the realforce rgb, is there a simple way to fit traditional Topre keycaps on the switch?

    They aren't switches but rather sliders and no they are not backwards compatible with standard topre keycaps.

    RIP all my topre caps :(, thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 December 2017, 15:22:35
    Quote from: unnatural on Tue, 05 December 2017, 15:18:02
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 05 December 2017, 15:09:00
    Quote from: unnatural on Tue, 05 December 2017, 14:55:23
    With mx-compatible type switches, like on the realforce rgb, is there a simple way to fit traditional Topre keycaps on the switch?

    They aren't switches but rather sliders and no they are not backwards compatible with standard topre keycaps.

    RIP all my topre caps :(, thanks.

    I mean I assume you could swap in a standard topre slider in place of the mx-compatible slider but I'm honestly not sure if that fits either.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Wed, 06 December 2017, 16:52:54
    does anyone know if these switches are the new revisioned mx blacks?
    https://www.reichelt.de/Tastaturzubehoer/CHERRY-MX1A-11NN/3/index.html?ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=202566&GROUPID=8099&artnr=CHERRY+MX1A-11NN&SEARCH=%252A;SID=93Wihp0awQATcAADu%40HWQ9c3b63933ceb39fd28ddb54e412717ee
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 06 December 2017, 17:11:31
    Quote from: llovro on Wed, 06 December 2017, 16:52:54
    does anyone know if these switches are the new revisioned mx blacks?
    https://www.reichelt.de/Tastaturzubehoer/CHERRY-MX1A-11NN/3/index.html?ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=202566&GROUPID=8099&artnr=CHERRY+MX1A-11NN&SEARCH=%252A;SID=93Wihp0awQATcAADu%40HWQ9c3b63933ceb39fd28ddb54e412717ee

    Cherry produced a new MX Black switch? I found the same manufacturer part # at Mouser. Fifteen large in stock with expected delays. I couldn't gleam any date information from the datasheet so I'm all out of answers.

    https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cherry/MX1A-11NN/?qs=5iusCjFLgR6EHFBhPS8DXg%3D%3D (https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cherry/MX1A-11NN/?qs=5iusCjFLgR6EHFBhPS8DXg%3D%3D)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Wed, 06 December 2017, 18:14:22
    What is the best way to reduce key wobble on SA. I am doing a build for my brother and got him SA Dasher, but they wobble far too much for my taste. I'm planning to drop them on Kailh speed to reduce overall travel, but would stickers help solve this problem? I went in on the polycarb switch films, but I read that those are only good for Cherry switches. Is there anything I can do, or is the nature of the beast?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 December 2017, 18:16:29
    Quote from: _rubik on Wed, 06 December 2017, 18:14:22
    What is the best way to reduce key wobble on SA. I am doing a build for my brother and got him SA Dasher, but they wobble far too much for my taste. I'm planning to drop them on Kailh speed to reduce overall travel, but would stickers help solve this problem? I went in on the polycarb switch films, but I read that those are only good for Cherry switches. Is there anything I can do, or is the nature of the beast?

    Stickers only matter if you took the switch apart.

    I imagine the Box switch stems help negate wobble, but you'll always notice more with SA as they're taller.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Wed, 06 December 2017, 18:21:10
    Quote from: xondat on Wed, 06 December 2017, 18:16:29
    Quote from: _rubik on Wed, 06 December 2017, 18:14:22
    What is the best way to reduce key wobble on SA. I am doing a build for my brother and got him SA Dasher, but they wobble far too much for my taste. I'm planning to drop them on Kailh speed to reduce overall travel, but would stickers help solve this problem? I went in on the polycarb switch films, but I read that those are only good for Cherry switches. Is there anything I can do, or is the nature of the beast?

    Stickers only matter if you took the switch apart.

    I imagine the Box switch stems help negate wobble, but you'll always notice more with SA as they're taller.

    That's what I figured. Do box switch stems have a noticeable impact? I thought they were mainly for keeping dust etc out of the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: llovro on Thu, 07 December 2017, 11:06:42
    Quote from: csmertx on Wed, 06 December 2017, 17:11:31
    Quote from: llovro on Wed, 06 December 2017, 16:52:54
    does anyone know if these switches are the new revisioned mx blacks?
    https://www.reichelt.de/Tastaturzubehoer/CHERRY-MX1A-11NN/3/index.html?ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=202566&GROUPID=8099&artnr=CHERRY+MX1A-11NN&SEARCH=%252A;SID=93Wihp0awQATcAADu%40HWQ9c3b63933ceb39fd28ddb54e412717ee

    Cherry produced a new MX Black switch? I found the same manufacturer part # at Mouser. Fifteen large in stock with expected delays. I couldn't gleam any date information from the datasheet so I'm all out of answers.

    https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cherry/MX1A-11NN/?qs=5iusCjFLgR6EHFBhPS8DXg%3D%3D (https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cherry/MX1A-11NN/?qs=5iusCjFLgR6EHFBhPS8DXg%3D%3D)
    yeah they supposedly have a new stem, according to this thread:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88031.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Thu, 07 December 2017, 11:49:26
    How do I get into collecting artisans?.. It always seems like that caps are raffles or for a very limited run.. and I miss it entirely. No idea how to buy these suckers because they are always sold out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Thu, 07 December 2017, 18:14:10
    Quote from: _rubik on Thu, 07 December 2017, 11:49:26
    How do I get into collecting artisans?.. It always seems like that caps are raffles or for a very limited run.. and I miss it entirely. No idea how to buy these suckers because they are always sold out.
    Depends what caps you are looking for. Raffles shouldn't be to hard to get into if you try a few times, just make sure to watch the dates at each artisan-thread. After-market is def the easiest way to get in but also the most costly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 10 December 2017, 01:16:41
    Are there any reliable taobao agents on GH anymore?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Sun, 10 December 2017, 01:17:58
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 10 December 2017, 01:16:41
    Are there any reliable taobao agents on GH anymore?

    why not just use a reputable service instead
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 10 December 2017, 01:22:33
    Quote from: nmur on Sun, 10 December 2017, 01:17:58
    Quote from: MKULTRA on Sun, 10 December 2017, 01:16:41
    Are there any reliable taobao agents on GH anymore?

    why not just use a reputable service instead
    There used to be quite a few people who would be agents on here. I'll use an actual agent service but I liked using people in the community
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GeneriksGiraffe on Thu, 14 December 2017, 14:34:46
    How do I switch the Control Key and the Caps Lock Key on my Realforce 87U? I flipped the dip switch and nothing happened. I also tried restarting my computer but that didn't work either. What do I do?
    '
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Duckyreddy on Thu, 14 December 2017, 16:21:46
    Quote from: GeneriksGiraffe on Thu, 14 December 2017, 14:34:46
    How do I switch the Control Key and the Caps Lock Key on my Realforce 87U? I flipped the dip switch and nothing happened. I also tried restarting my computer but that didn't work either. What do I do?
    '

    I do not own a RF but iirc, You have to flip the dip switch when disconnected from the computer and reconnect 15 seconds later or else it won't work.
    I could be wrong though. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:19:18
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Thu, 14 December 2017, 16:21:46
    Quote from: GeneriksGiraffe on Thu, 14 December 2017, 14:34:46
    How do I switch the Control Key and the Caps Lock Key on my Realforce 87U? I flipped the dip switch and nothing happened. I also tried restarting my computer but that didn't work either. What do I do?
    '

    I do not own a RF but iirc, You have to flip the dip switch when disconnected from the computer and reconnect 15 seconds later or else it won't work.
    I could be wrong though. :)

    not sure about the time requirement, but you definitely need to have it disconnected while you flip the switches
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Duckyreddy on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:33:21
    Quote from: nmur on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:19:18
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Thu, 14 December 2017, 16:21:46
    Quote from: GeneriksGiraffe on Thu, 14 December 2017, 14:34:46
    How do I switch the Control Key and the Caps Lock Key on my Realforce 87U? I flipped the dip switch and nothing happened. I also tried restarting my computer but that didn't work either. What do I do?
    '

    I do not own a RF but iirc, You have to flip the dip switch when disconnected from the computer and reconnect 15 seconds later or else it won't work.
    I could be wrong though. :)


    not sure about the time requirement, but you definitely need to have it disconnected while you flip the switches

    yea haha, it says that on my Ducky's User manual but I've never actually followed it lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:37:08
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:33:21
    Quote from: nmur on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:19:18
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Thu, 14 December 2017, 16:21:46
    Quote from: GeneriksGiraffe on Thu, 14 December 2017, 14:34:46
    How do I switch the Control Key and the Caps Lock Key on my Realforce 87U? I flipped the dip switch and nothing happened. I also tried restarting my computer but that didn't work either. What do I do?
    '

    I do not own a RF but iirc, You have to flip the dip switch when disconnected from the computer and reconnect 15 seconds later or else it won't work.
    I could be wrong though. :)


    not sure about the time requirement, but you definitely need to have it disconnected while you flip the switches

    yea haha, it says that on my Ducky's User manual but I've never actually followed it lol

    i bet the people that wrote that probably safely disconnect their USB storage devices in windows before disconnecting them too
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Duckyreddy on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:41:11
    Quote from: nmur on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:37:08
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:33:21
    Quote from: nmur on Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:19:18
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Thu, 14 December 2017, 16:21:46
    Quote from: GeneriksGiraffe on Thu, 14 December 2017, 14:34:46
    How do I switch the Control Key and the Caps Lock Key on my Realforce 87U? I flipped the dip switch and nothing happened. I also tried restarting my computer but that didn't work either. What do I do?
    '

    I do not own a RF but iirc, You have to flip the dip switch when disconnected from the computer and reconnect 15 seconds later or else it won't work.
    I could be wrong though. :)


    not sure about the time requirement, but you definitely need to have it disconnected while you flip the switches

    yea haha, it says that on my Ducky's User manual but I've never actually followed it lol

    i bet the people that wrote that probably safely disconnect their USB storage devices in windows before disconnecting them too

    lmao probably
    they probably also hand polish their USBs before they plug it in
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hehe13 on Sun, 24 December 2017, 11:33:19
    In Bootmapper Client, RGB mode cycles through the 3 colors of my choice, to rainbow, and then OFF. What does the LED Mode does? It does not make any changes in my LED when I try it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Sun, 24 December 2017, 11:46:49
    Quote from: hehe13 on Sun, 24 December 2017, 11:33:19
    In Bootmapper Client, RGB mode cycles through the 3 colors of my choice, to rainbow, and then OFF. What does the LED Mode does? It does not make any changes in my LED when I try it.


    Your bootmapper client may support it, but your board itself may not. What PCB are you trying to flash?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Tue, 26 December 2017, 17:04:32
    Alright guys, let's say I need:

    Full size, Swiss layout, high end mechanical keyboard, with MX Red switches available. Something like a K95 RGB Platinum, but that would offer MX Red, or even MX Silent (which Corsair doesn't offer with their K95 RGB Platinum). I want it to have a solid/metal feel, some extra macro buttons would be a plus (but can do without), and I don't need fancy lightning (although I don't mind having it). What comes to mind ?

    While I'm at it (i'm sure it's been discussed many times so sorry in advance), how do the MX Silent feel compared to the MX Red ?

    Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Wed, 27 December 2017, 03:20:04
    GMK Uniqey
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Wed, 27 December 2017, 05:19:07
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 27 December 2017, 03:20:04
    GMK Uniqey

    Looks pretty good, but some true Swiss/CH layout would be even better. Also I know I said "high end" but actually, 200 euros top would be nice lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 27 December 2017, 07:40:01
    Quote from: davkol on Wed, 27 December 2017, 03:20:04
    GMK Uniqey

    +1

    Get the UNIQEY

    If you want silence, you can add the gmk UNIQEY silent clips.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hehe13 on Wed, 27 December 2017, 10:09:44
    Quote from: _rubik on Sun, 24 December 2017, 11:46:49
    Quote from: hehe13 on Sun, 24 December 2017, 11:33:19
    In Bootmapper Client, RGB mode cycles through the 3 colors of my choice, to rainbow, and then OFF. What does the LED Mode does? It does not make any changes in my LED when I try it.


    Your bootmapper client may support it, but your board itself may not. What PCB are you trying to flash?


    This is probably the best response I got.

    i have a GSX96.

    Another question, whats the difference between the two set of macros, quick and custom, other than the character limits?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Forvitni on Sat, 30 December 2017, 12:38:57
    Hello everyone!

    So I am on the hunt for a higher end keyboard with a specific layout request. I really enjoy the shorter space-bar and larger alt keys seen on modern day laptop style keyboards. Does anything like this exist?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: menuhin on Sat, 30 December 2017, 12:47:18
    Simple question:

    How much should I expect to pay if I want to re-anodize a 60% keyboard to my desired color in Germany or other nearby European countries?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Wed, 03 January 2018, 01:16:14
    Isn't there a mechanical keyboard that is wireless and has a trackpad? I thought I saw one of these a while ago but can't find it. Looking for something like that. Preferably TKL or 68%.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: manna on Thu, 04 January 2018, 14:36:50
    Does the Novatouch pcb fit inside the Realforce tkl case (stock plastic one)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ramencup on Mon, 08 January 2018, 14:46:55
    Describe the feel of Topre switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 08 January 2018, 14:47:32
    Quote from: ramencup on Mon, 08 January 2018, 14:46:55
    Describe the feel of Topre switches.
    That's not a simple question.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 08 January 2018, 17:14:47
    Quote from: ramencup on Mon, 08 January 2018, 14:46:55
    Describe the feel of Topre switches.

    There are no switches per se.

    There are sliders - they feel like slightly slippery plastic cylinders with bits sticking out one end.

    There are rubber domes - they feel like squishy rubber, sort of like a soft rubber ball.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Mon, 08 January 2018, 17:21:39
    Here's a simple question (hopefully):

    When did Watsters become a thing?

    Here's a less simple question:

    How did I miss them?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 08 January 2018, 19:36:32
    Watster eh? hmmm.. intriguing..
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Tue, 09 January 2018, 10:33:53
    Found this one-year-old group buy (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5lmcsd/gb_watster_keycap/) at SP. Some were made by GMK too, though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 09 January 2018, 18:46:23
    Quote from: davkol on Tue, 09 January 2018, 10:33:53
    Found this one-year-old group buy (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5lmcsd/gb_watster_keycap/) at SP. Some were made by GMK too, though.

    Thanks - I've missed it for about a year then :))

    Limit 5 per person - not like the Sadster where people were buying several hundred each.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Wed, 10 January 2018, 18:08:03
    Where can I get the alu 1u switch blockers for the KMAC1?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 10 January 2018, 22:28:28
    Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 09 January 2018, 18:46:23
    Quote from: davkol on Tue, 09 January 2018, 10:33:53
    Found this one-year-old group buy (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5lmcsd/gb_watster_keycap/) at SP. Some were made by GMK too, though.

    Thanks - I've missed it for about a year then :))

    Limit 5 per person - not like the Sadster where people were buying several hundred each.

    Sigh, so many caps to hunt down
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Fri, 12 January 2018, 10:00:24
    I'm looking to get my neighbor (who's 13), a mech for the desktop we built together for xmas. I really know nothing about the consumer keyboard market thanks to you all.... so what are some recommendations. I'm thinking tkl with a tactile switch. Does Corsair or Coolermaster still make decent boards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _haru on Sat, 13 January 2018, 03:25:05
    Quote from: _rubik on Fri, 12 January 2018, 10:00:24
    I'm looking to get my neighbor (who's 13), a mech for the desktop we built together for xmas. I really know nothing about the consumer keyboard market thanks to you all.... so what are some recommendations. I'm thinking tkl with a tactile switch. Does Corsair or Coolermaster still make decent boards?

    Rantopad MXX kit off Aliexpress. $45 AUD ish. Add some Taobao vintage mx clears from an old Cherry PCB (message me here or on IRC for the link) and some cheap but decent pbt caps and you're good to go :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iFreilicht on Sat, 13 January 2018, 18:01:33
    Quote from: _rubik on Fri, 12 January 2018, 10:00:24
    I'm looking to get my neighbor (who's 13), a mech for the desktop we built together for xmas. I really know nothing about the consumer keyboard market thanks to you all.... so what are some recommendations. I'm thinking tkl with a tactile switch. Does Corsair or Coolermaster still make decent boards?

    Yes, Cooler Master still makes good boards. Corsair is frowned upon because of the non-standard bottom row. The Masterkeys S would suit your bill well. Take a look and see if one of its variants fits your price range.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glod on Sun, 14 January 2018, 17:15:32
    When were IBM pingmaster made up until and can i find out the date anywhere? I just bought one of those new in boxes ones from EBAY and they feel and look like they are from the 2000s but smell like they are from 1980s.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 8idl on Mon, 15 January 2018, 21:36:48
    Does anyone have any experience installing hot swap pockets on a Tada68 PCB? Specifically, are the ones in the link below compatible with the Tada68 PCB? Any response is much appreciated!

    https://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/gold-plated-hot-swap-sockets-for-pcbs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Tue, 16 January 2018, 15:41:18
    Quote from: iFreilicht on Sat, 13 January 2018, 18:01:33
    Quote from: _rubik on Fri, 12 January 2018, 10:00:24
    I'm looking to get my neighbor (who's 13), a mech for the desktop we built together for xmas. I really know nothing about the consumer keyboard market thanks to you all.... so what are some recommendations. I'm thinking tkl with a tactile switch. Does Corsair or Coolermaster still make decent boards?

    Yes, Cooler Master still makes good boards. Corsair is frowned upon because of the non-standard bottom row. The Masterkeys S would suit your bill well. Take a look and see if one of its variants fits your price range.

    I ended up taking your advice and he's thrilled to bits. It's a fun board, too. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ramencup on Wed, 17 January 2018, 12:15:07
    How much noise do Box Whites generate compared to normal MX Blues?
    I ask because I may be building a CA66 kit with them.
    I know clicky switches are going always going to be somewhat loud but I prefer a more reasonable level of noise.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wulphy on Sun, 21 January 2018, 22:11:29
    I'm purchasing a board with a GonNerd60 PCB, and the current owner has it set up as a split right shift. How difficult would it be for me to turn it into a regular sized shift? I'm new to soldering/desoldering switches.

    Board in question:

    https://imgur.com/a/oapHk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 12:49:05
    Quote from: wulphy on Sun, 21 January 2018, 22:11:29
    I'm purchasing a board with a GonNerd60 PCB, and the current owner has it set up as a split right shift. How difficult would it be for me to turn it into a regular sized shift? I'm new to soldering/desoldering switches.

    Board in question:

    https://imgur.com/a/oapHk

    You would need to desolder the two switches of the split shift, and resolder one of them into the single shift position. You'd also need to get stabilizers for the 2.75u shift. That board has PCB mount stabilizers, but I don't think you'll be able to get PCB mount stabs in without desoldering every switch. You might be able to get a plate mount stabilizer in without such an issue, although I've never tried on that type of plate.

    Once all of that is done, you may need to reflash a new layout as well. Gon boards are pretty easy on that front, in my experience.

    When desoldering and resoldering (particularly the former), there's always a potential for damaging the PCB, lifting pads, etc.

    If you can live with the split shift, I'd suggest keeping it split, I personally think that changing it back would be more effort than it's worth.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Mon, 22 January 2018, 13:14:29
    Quote from: ramencup on Wed, 17 January 2018, 12:15:07
    How much noise do Box Whites generate compared to normal MX Blues?

    Significantly louder and crisper.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 22 January 2018, 15:00:14
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 12:49:05
    Quote from: wulphy on Sun, 21 January 2018, 22:11:29
    I'm purchasing a board with a GonNerd60 PCB, and the current owner has it set up as a split right shift. How difficult would it be for me to turn it into a regular sized shift? I'm new to soldering/desoldering switches.

    Board in question:

    https://imgur.com/a/oapHk

    You would need to desolder the two switches of the split shift, and resolder one of them into the single shift position. You'd also need to get stabilizers for the 2.75u shift. That board has PCB mount stabilizers, but I don't think you'll be able to get PCB mount stabs in without desoldering every switch. You might be able to get a plate mount stabilizer in without such an issue, although I've never tried on that type of plate.

    Once all of that is done, you may need to reflash a new layout as well. Gon boards are pretty easy on that front, in my experience.

    When desoldering and resoldering (particularly the former), there's always a potential for damaging the PCB, lifting pads, etc.

    If you can live with the split shift, I'd suggest keeping it split, I personally think that changing it back would be more effort than it's worth.

    I encourage you to keep it as it is, unless you have the proper tools for desoldering switches, the PCB is very easy to get damaged. I have one Nerd60 that is now unusable, because I wanted to change its layout. As mentioned previously, the stabs are very hard to get off of under the plate, so you may need to desolder everything just to change it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: wulphy on Mon, 22 January 2018, 17:34:07
    Quote from: ideus on Mon, 22 January 2018, 15:00:14
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 12:49:05
    Quote from: wulphy on Sun, 21 January 2018, 22:11:29
    I'm purchasing a board with a GonNerd60 PCB, and the current owner has it set up as a split right shift. How difficult would it be for me to turn it into a regular sized shift? I'm new to soldering/desoldering switches.

    Board in question:

    https://imgur.com/a/oapHk

    You would need to desolder the two switches of the split shift, and resolder one of them into the single shift position. You'd also need to get stabilizers for the 2.75u shift. That board has PCB mount stabilizers, but I don't think you'll be able to get PCB mount stabs in without desoldering every switch. You might be able to get a plate mount stabilizer in without such an issue, although I've never tried on that type of plate.

    Once all of that is done, you may need to reflash a new layout as well. Gon boards are pretty easy on that front, in my experience.

    When desoldering and resoldering (particularly the former), there's always a potential for damaging the PCB, lifting pads, etc.

    If you can live with the split shift, I'd suggest keeping it split, I personally think that changing it back would be more effort than it's worth.

    I encourage you to keep it as it is, unless you have the proper tools for desoldering switches, the PCB is very easy to get damaged. I have one Nerd60 that is now unusable, because I wanted to change its layout. As mentioned previously, the stabs are very hard to get off of under the plate, so you may need to desolder everything just to change it.

    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 12:49:05
    Quote from: wulphy on Sun, 21 January 2018, 22:11:29
    I'm purchasing a board with a GonNerd60 PCB, and the current owner has it set up as a split right shift. How difficult would it be for me to turn it into a regular sized shift? I'm new to soldering/desoldering switches.

    Board in question:

    https://imgur.com/a/oapHk

    You would need to desolder the two switches of the split shift, and resolder one of them into the single shift position. You'd also need to get stabilizers for the 2.75u shift. That board has PCB mount stabilizers, but I don't think you'll be able to get PCB mount stabs in without desoldering every switch. You might be able to get a plate mount stabilizer in without such an issue, although I've never tried on that type of plate.

    Once all of that is done, you may need to reflash a new layout as well. Gon boards are pretty easy on that front, in my experience.

    When desoldering and resoldering (particularly the former), there's always a potential for damaging the PCB, lifting pads, etc.

    If you can live with the split shift, I'd suggest keeping it split, I personally think that changing it back would be more effort than it's worth.

    Thanks for the advice guys- I will keep the board as is and try to trade for the XDA Godspeed modifiers I'm missing for the split shift.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KeLorean on Thu, 25 January 2018, 09:18:53
    I'm looking for an index of switches, including modded switches

    Sent from my Z971 using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 25 January 2018, 09:21:37
    Quote from: KeLorean on Thu, 25 January 2018, 09:18:53
    I'm looking for an index of switches, including modded switches

    Sent from my Z971 using Tapatalk



    https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/switch_guides
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ramencup on Mon, 29 January 2018, 10:53:45
    How does the 45g variant of the Realforce 87U do with gaming?
    75% of what I do with my keyboard is typing but if time permits I play vidya
    Also, how does the 87U compare to the HHKB? That was really the only other rubbreh domeh board I was thinking about purchasing.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: andreya on Tue, 30 January 2018, 23:49:38
    which one is better aluminium plate or stainless steel plate ?

    I want to hear nothing but my navy thick box switch sound
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 January 2018, 08:06:38
    Quote from: ramencup on Mon, 29 January 2018, 10:53:45
    How does the 45g variant of the Realforce 87U do with gaming?
    75% of what I do with my keyboard is typing but if time permits I play vidya
    Also, how does the 87U compare to the HHKB? That was really the only other rubbreh domeh board I was thinking about purchasing.

    I can't speak from experience, because I'm not a PC gamer. But I've heard that Topre aren't the best choice for gaming. Linear MX switches are usually recommended for gaming.

    That said, there isn't that much difference in 45g and 55g dome variants. If you are using one, the other would be fine, I suspect.



    Quote from: andreya on Tue, 30 January 2018, 23:49:38
    which one is better aluminium plate or stainless steel plate ?

    I want to hear nothing but my navy thick box switch sound

    In my experience, since the steel plate is stiffer, it will not dampen the sound of the swtiches bottoming out at all, while aluminum might dampen it somewhat. But the difference is going to be very, very slight. Other factors, such as case material and resonance properties will affect typing volume more than plate material.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 31 January 2018, 10:37:20
    Quote from: ramencup on Mon, 29 January 2018, 10:53:45
    How does the 45g variant of the Realforce 87U do with gaming?
    75% of what I do with my keyboard is typing but if time permits I play vidya
    Also, how does the 87U compare to the HHKB? That was really the only other rubbreh domeh board I was thinking about purchasing.

    They're quite fine for gaming. I personally prefer Topre for RTS/MOBA games with many distinct keypresses and linear MX for FPS where pressing and holding keys in rapid succession is more common.

    The Realforce has a still metal plate, the HHKB has plastic-mounted sliders. So the HHKB will be more comfortable to bottom-out a switch on, and has a more resonant, hollow sound ("thock") and is ridiculously light (not in a bad way). Realforce is harder, heavier, you can pound your fist into it in rage. And obviously layout. I can't play an FPS without a lower-left corner Ctrl key.

    Both are phenomenal boards, the best retail boards available in my honest opinion.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 31 January 2018, 10:42:47
    Quote from: ramencup on Mon, 08 January 2018, 14:46:55
    Describe the feel of Topre switches.

    Like a stiff suction cup with a hole in the middle so they don't stay down when you press them to a surface.

    Quote from: crtexcnndrm99 on Wed, 10 January 2018, 18:08:03
    Where can I get the alu 1u switch blockers for the KMAC1?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    You're basically out of luck. You could see if these work https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keyboard-part/products/5-case-aluminium-blockers other than that, no one really makes aluminum blockers any more. /r/mechmarket if you're incredibly lucky, but KMAC 1 is super old.

    Quote from: andreya on Tue, 30 January 2018, 23:49:38
    which one is better aluminium plate or stainless steel plate ?

    I want to hear nothing but my navy thick box switch sound

    Steel I suppose, though it's painfully hard. If you really want to hear nothing, your plate doesn't matter, you'd want to silence the up/down stroke like MX Silents, QMX clips, or the trampoline mod.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: andreya on Mon, 05 February 2018, 06:58:23
    are there any noticable typing feel differences between pcb/handwired keyboard ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Deefenestrate on Mon, 05 February 2018, 15:14:41
    Shouldn’t be if the plate thickness is the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 06 February 2018, 10:41:33
    Yeah, PCB boards can be without plates, in which case there will be a different feel. But that's not really due to the handwiring of course.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Tue, 06 February 2018, 13:47:48
    Is there a standard key cap combination that with work with stock barrel locations to break up the right shift?  The reason I ask is I want to do blank black keycaps on my Kishy, but right shift is not available in blank black and will not be restocked.  Every other size is available aside from short space bar. And I am assuming it is the large unicomp space bar that would fit.

    Edit:  Does anyone know if the blank caps lock key from Unicomp is full height or stepped, and if full height is the stem centered?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 07 February 2018, 22:28:40
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 February 2018, 13:47:48
    Is there a standard key cap combination that with work with stock barrel locations to break up the right shift?  The reason I ask is I want to do blank black keycaps on my Kishy, but right shift is not available in blank black and will not be restocked.  Every other size is available aside from short space bar. And I am assuming it is the large unicomp space bar that would fit.

    Edit:  Does anyone know if the blank caps lock key from Unicomp is full height or stepped, and if full height is the stem centered?

    I believe Ellipse's repro kishies have a split right shift as an option, might look there. If I recall correctly they use a stepped Caps Lock key and a 1u.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rymnd6c28 on Thu, 08 February 2018, 22:09:14
    case : https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=281
    plate : https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2552
    keyboard : kbparadise v80

    The case and the plate both stated are compatible with each other. The plate page also state to work with V80 cases with some modification. The question is are the V80 internals, TEX case, and Phantom Plate be compatible with each other hence making one full keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Razor Lotus on Fri, 09 February 2018, 10:42:24
    Not sure if this is the correct place to ask, but what are the "popular" and "go to" switches nowadays?

    I remember reading that a lot of people on this forum seem to like vintage blacks, ergo clears, and mx reds. But that was last time before cherry clones flooded the market. I've not really been keeping up, but what are some of the popular linear, tactile, and clicky switches currently?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 09 February 2018, 11:07:59
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Fri, 09 February 2018, 10:42:24
    Not sure if this is the correct place to ask, but what are the "popular" and "go to" switches nowadays?

    I remember reading that a lot of people on this forum seem to like vintage blacks, ergo clears, and mx reds. But that was last time before cherry clones flooded the market. I've not really been keeping up, but what are some of the popular linear, tactile, and clicky switches currently?

    That's not really a simple question, but people still love Cherry. Gateron and Zealios for MX-compatible switches. Vintage switches like IBM buckling springs and Alps. There's hundreds, if not thousands of different switches in the market now though so it really just depends.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Fri, 09 February 2018, 13:16:28
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Fri, 09 February 2018, 11:07:59
    Quote from: Razor Lotus on Fri, 09 February 2018, 10:42:24
    Not sure if this is the correct place to ask, but what are the "popular" and "go to" switches nowadays?

    I remember reading that a lot of people on this forum seem to like vintage blacks, ergo clears, and mx reds. But that was last time before cherry clones flooded the market. I've not really been keeping up, but what are some of the popular linear, tactile, and clicky switches currently?

    That's not really a simple question, but people still love Cherry. Gateron and Zealios for MX-compatible switches. Vintage switches like IBM buckling springs and Alps. There's hundreds, if not thousands of different switches in the market now though so it really just depends.

    I have to jump in with Kailh switches. I've heard a few people talking about them, so I guess they count as 'popular'. Specifically, I'm in love with their Copper and Burnt Orange speed switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 09 February 2018, 19:24:37
    Quote from: Melvang on Tue, 06 February 2018, 13:47:48

    I want to do blank black keycaps on my Kishy, but right shift is not available in blank black and will not be restocked.


    You can always dye keys black. You might not get a perfect match, but it might be close and it would take a strong light and a magnifying glass to see the black-under-black legend.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: studiovpc on Sat, 10 February 2018, 02:57:53
    Guys I have several questions...

    I need to buy a new kb, Rosewill RK-9000v2 Blue switches or Leopold FC900R Blue switches, my quiestion is, do both of them have standard bottom row? Because I have several keycap sets to try, all caps are for standard 104 key ansi layout...
    i am asking this because I have 2 kbs which do not have regular bottom row, CM Quickfire Ultimate and Azio MGK1 which has standard bottom row but spacebar has offset stabilizer mounts and it is driving me nuts, all caps fit perfeclty except sapcebar and right shift (shift can stand on its own, but spacebar can't).
    So are those two standard bottom row kbs?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 10 February 2018, 03:42:27
    Hello and welcome,

    Either the RK-9000v2 and the FC900R feature standard bottom rows (1.25u modifiers with a 6.25u spacebar).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: studiovpc on Sat, 10 February 2018, 03:47:45
    Quote from: TalkingTree on Sat, 10 February 2018, 03:42:27
    Hello and welcome,

    Either the RK-9000v2 and the FC900R feature standard bottom rows (1.25u modifiers with a 6.25u spacebar).

    Thanks :) been lurking here for past months and learned a lot!

    All in all, get one whichever is cheaper? What about IKBC Vortex G104, any good?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 10 February 2018, 04:25:17
    Quote from: studiovpc on Sat, 10 February 2018, 03:47:45
    All in all, get one whichever is cheaper?
    That's personal preference. I know little of Rosewill but I would buy the Leopold if it were for myself.

    Quote from: studiovpc on Sat, 10 February 2018, 03:47:45
    What about IKBC Vortex G104, any good?
    iKBC has a good reputation, but I would still buy a Leopold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tautologico on Sat, 10 February 2018, 08:54:06
    I have a Unicomp Spacesaver keyboard (buckling spring, Model M-like) and I like it a lot, but lately I haven't been using it much because the right shift key gets stuck sometimes and it's super annoying. This probably can be solved by lubing the spring or the keycap.

    So: how should I lube this key? Is silicon grease ok?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mikael.k on Sat, 10 February 2018, 18:17:56
    Hello,

    I have bought a pre assembled gh60 rev chn based keyboard with a hhkb layout.
    I had a pretty bad day after almost bricking it with a half baked firmware (see https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94001.0), but after getting back the reset function.

    However, if the original firmware (which I don't have access to) was ok, now, many keys are either absent or mixed.

    Examples :
    - key on row zero col 15 is absent
    - Q outputs W
    - W outputs E
    - A outputs S
    - row 3 is ok except Fn which does not seem to work

    I got this using EasyAVR and QMK, basing my layouts on "GH60 satan" sources.

    Any idea why this goes wrong and what I have to change ?

    Regards,
    Mikael
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bitzie on Sun, 11 February 2018, 01:23:52
    I'm waiting for my pcb to get here for my first build and I'm trying to get the firmware prepped before it gets here. Here's what I have laid out so far. Does this look correct? Just wondering if there's anything I'm missing here. I'm still trying to figure out what to have that middle space bar set to, but I do want it to be something usable for gaming. I probably won't ever really use the leds, but since this will be my first actual build I figured I would install them as a learning experience.

    (https://i.imgur.com/O4QACdu.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 12 February 2018, 00:20:14
    Quote from: TalkingTree on Sat, 10 February 2018, 04:25:17
    Quote from: studiovpc on Sat, 10 February 2018, 03:47:45
    All in all, get one whichever is cheaper?
    That's personal preference. I know little of Rosewill but I would buy the Leopold if it were for myself.

    I had a Rosewill several (five-ish?) years ago. At that time, they often had issues with the USB port failing -- that's what happened to mine, I ended up stripping it for parts. Don't know if that's been remedied in more recent batches or not though.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rayndalf on Mon, 12 February 2018, 01:28:32
    Does this model 1800 have MX compatible keycaps?
    I see its winkeyless, but I know keycap compatibility can be pretty spotty, and the lack of a clear image seems almost intentionally deceptive
    https://www.ebay.com/p/Cherry-Model-My-1800-Compact-Series-Industrial-Keyboard/671779664
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 12 February 2018, 04:18:07
    Quote from: Rayndalf on Mon, 12 February 2018, 01:28:32
    Does this model 1800 have MX compatible keycaps?
    Pretty much every non stabilized key will be compatible. I'm unsure about the 2u keys (enter, left shift and backspace).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 12 February 2018, 07:51:26
    Quote from: Rayndalf on Mon, 12 February 2018, 01:28:32
    Does this model 1800 have MX compatible keycaps?
    I see its winkeyless, but I know keycap compatibility can be pretty spotty, and the lack of a clear image seems almost intentionally deceptive
    https://www.ebay.com/p/Cherry-Model-My-1800-Compact-Series-Industrial-Keyboard/671779664

    I would say it's not deception but rather laziness. That's the case at least 95% of the time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rayndalf on Mon, 12 February 2018, 11:02:04
    Quote from: TalkingTree on Mon, 12 February 2018, 04:18:07
    Quote from: Rayndalf on Mon, 12 February 2018, 01:28:32
    Does this model 1800 have MX compatible keycaps?
    Pretty much every non stabilized key will be compatible. I'm unsure about the 2u keys (enter, left shift and backspace).
    I suspected it would be almost impossible to make out given the vagueness of the photos. I know some MY sets have full MX compatibility (some of the finer dyesub sets come to mind) but the lack of winkeys means less than I'd like, so I really don't know if it'd be worth the risk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: studiovpc on Thu, 15 February 2018, 08:36:48
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 12 February 2018, 00:20:14
    Quote from: TalkingTree on Sat, 10 February 2018, 04:25:17
    Quote from: studiovpc on Sat, 10 February 2018, 03:47:45
    All in all, get one whichever is cheaper?
    That's personal preference. I know little of Rosewill but I would buy the Leopold if it were for myself.

    I had a Rosewill several (five-ish?) years ago. At that time, they often had issues with the USB port failing -- that's what happened to mine, I ended up stripping it for parts. Don't know if that's been remedied in more recent batches or not though.


    it did, that was RK-9000 model, this is RK-9000v2, the have comletely changed USB port, so no problems there, and the logo is not white anymore, it is matte black so it does not pop into eyes... All in all , I have ordered it, and I am also getting, just a little later, IKBC CD108, and I am also waiting for Carbon keycaps to arrive. Those will be mounted on Rosewill... for IKBC I have a mix of black & white doubleshots
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Thu, 15 February 2018, 12:41:11
    Could someone ID these bearded artisans for me (5th and 7th from the left). Surprised I've never seen them before.

    (https://i.redd.it/mkam2riqldg01.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 15 February 2018, 19:42:16
    Quote from: studiovpc on Thu, 15 February 2018, 08:36:48
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 12 February 2018, 00:20:14
    Quote from: TalkingTree on Sat, 10 February 2018, 04:25:17
    Quote from: studiovpc on Sat, 10 February 2018, 03:47:45
    All in all, get one whichever is cheaper?
    That's personal preference. I know little of Rosewill but I would buy the Leopold if it were for myself.

    I had a Rosewill several (five-ish?) years ago. At that time, they often had issues with the USB port failing -- that's what happened to mine, I ended up stripping it for parts. Don't know if that's been remedied in more recent batches or not though.


    it did, that was RK-9000 model, this is RK-9000v2, the have comletely changed USB port, so no problems there, and the logo is not white anymore, it is matte black so it does not pop into eyes... All in all , I have ordered it, and I am also getting, just a little later, IKBC CD108, and I am also waiting for Carbon keycaps to arrive. Those will be mounted on Rosewill... for IKBC I have a mix of black & white doubleshots

    Glad to hear that issue has been resolved then! Other than that, it was a good board. Mine was reds, which I didn't end up liking, but it was fairly solid for the price.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: studiovpc on Fri, 16 February 2018, 01:01:53
    Quote from: user 18

    Glad to hear that issue has been resolved then! Other than that, it was a good board. Mine was reds, which I didn't end up liking, but it was fairly solid for the price.

    I have ordered Blue switches version, will see... For now I have Cherry MX Brown and on the other kb Kailh Browns, which have stiffer spring and it is a little bit better than cherry browns (no accidental pressing of the switch like with cherry)...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: onlyabyte on Sun, 18 February 2018, 03:35:07
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Combonaut on Tue, 20 February 2018, 04:15:53
    Hi All,

    I've just put together a Satan60 and am having some trouble with programming.
    How do I add a split shift in?
    When I make my hex file in msys2, it says ""KEYMAP_COMBOKB" passed 63 arguments, but takes just 62"
    Does that mean the PCB can only handle 62 keys?

    Cheers!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Tue, 20 February 2018, 04:36:51
    Welcome to GH Combonaut :)

    I'm not familiar with msys2 but that sounds like a tmk/qmk error which happens when you use the wrong layout.  If there's a hole on the PCB you can certainly put a switch in there...

    If you aren't fussy about what firmware you use or just want to test the board while waiting for help (most users are American and asleep at the moment) EasyAVR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0) is an option.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 20 February 2018, 04:59:26
    Quote from: Combonaut on Tue, 20 February 2018, 04:15:53
    it says ""KEYMAP_COMBOKB" passed 63 arguments, but takes just 62"
    Make sure you don't have any commas at the end of the array.
    e.g. like this:
    Code: [Select]
    KC_LALT, KC_SPACE, KC_LCTLRather than:
    Code: [Select]
    KC_LALT, KC_SPACE, KC_LCTL,
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Combonaut on Tue, 20 February 2018, 05:43:15
    Thanks guys,

    TalkingTree, when you say end of an array is that each row?
    Might try to mod someone else's keymap first suicidal_orange, as msys is the only firmware I've used so far!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 20 February 2018, 05:58:47
    Quote from: Combonaut on Tue, 20 February 2018, 05:43:15
    TalkingTree, when you say end of an array is that each row?
    Last row. That's where actually the array ends. Rows are broken into different lines for the human user convenience, that's why you see a backslash at the end of every row but the last one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SBJ on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:35:11
    If I am to practice soldering, where can I get some cheap stuff to solder on that I can try out?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 20 February 2018, 08:33:52
    Quote from: StickyBlueJuice on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:35:11
    If I am to practice soldering, where can I get some cheap stuff to solder on that I can try out?


    Ebay should have some used boards you could get for a cheap price.
    I used some of my cheaper mech boards to practice on.
    You could buy a really cheap board just to practice on, or they have soldering practice kits on ebay and amazon.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Tue, 20 February 2018, 09:27:58
    Any dead electronic device will do so have a look at a recycling centre - the power supplies in pretty much everything have through hole capacitors which are much like switch pins when it comes to desoldering.  Just make sure they've been unplugged for days, getting shocked by mains powered caps still hurts!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:48:30
    I practiced soldering on none other than an old VCR I had laying around at the time. You'll gradually get better at it the more you do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SBJ on Thu, 22 February 2018, 04:17:31
    Expanding on that, any tips for a beginner soldering station?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 22 February 2018, 05:17:49
    Quote from: StickyBlueJuice on Thu, 22 February 2018, 04:17:31
    Expanding on that, any tips for a beginner soldering station?

    Depends on how serious you are about soldering in the future. If it's a skill that you will maintain and upkeep, I highly recommend the Aoyue 701A++ (http://amzn.to/2sINInn). The Aoyue is a Hakko clone that is very close to Hakko quality for much cheaper. The iron comes with a vacuum to remove solder fumes and the station comes with a desoldering gun as well which makes desoldering take about 1/4 as long as using an iron and pump/wick. I use the Aoyue for everything and the temperature control is an excellent feature.

    If you think you'll solder just once and probably never pick it up again, I did my first few boards with a Weller SP40NUS (http://amzn.to/2BIu8uf) and used a cheap iron stand and desoldering pump with it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Thu, 22 February 2018, 05:44:51
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 22 February 2018, 05:17:49
    Quote from: StickyBlueJuice on Thu, 22 February 2018, 04:17:31
    Expanding on that, any tips for a beginner soldering station?

    Depends on how serious you are about soldering in the future. If it's a skill that you will maintain and upkeep, I highly recommend the Aoyue 701A++ (http://amzn.to/2sINInn). The Aoyue is a Hakko clone that is very close to Hakko quality for much cheaper. The iron comes with a vacuum to remove solder fumes and the station comes with a desoldering gun as well which makes desoldering take about 1/4 as long as using an iron and pump/wick. I use the Aoyue for everything and the temperature control is an excellent feature.

    If you think you'll solder just once and probably never pick it up again, I did my first few boards with a Weller SP40NUS (http://amzn.to/2BIu8uf) and used a cheap iron stand and desoldering pump with it.
    I´d say get something with a thermometer, that way it's much easier to receive advice if you haven't soldered before :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SBJ on Thu, 22 February 2018, 09:59:15
    Quote from: Signature on Thu, 22 February 2018, 05:44:51
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 22 February 2018, 05:17:49
    Quote from: StickyBlueJuice on Thu, 22 February 2018, 04:17:31
    Expanding on that, any tips for a beginner soldering station?

    Depends on how serious you are about soldering in the future. If it's a skill that you will maintain and upkeep, I highly recommend the Aoyue 701A++ (http://amzn.to/2sINInn). The Aoyue is a Hakko clone that is very close to Hakko quality for much cheaper. The iron comes with a vacuum to remove solder fumes and the station comes with a desoldering gun as well which makes desoldering take about 1/4 as long as using an iron and pump/wick. I use the Aoyue for everything and the temperature control is an excellent feature.

    If you think you'll solder just once and probably never pick it up again, I did my first few boards with a Weller SP40NUS (http://amzn.to/2BIu8uf) and used a cheap iron stand and desoldering pump with it.
    I´d say get something with a thermometer, that way it's much easier to receive advice if you haven't soldered before :)
    Alright I found one in my country with a thermometer.
    Seems like a decent entry-level station so I'm going to try it out.
    I can't seem to find the one you've mentioned in my country Blaise. But I'll consider getting it off Aliexpress or something similar if this is for me.
    Thank you guys for your advice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 22 February 2018, 10:12:21
    It might be the case that you can find Hakkos in Denmark. Considering the shipping costs to get an Aoyue there, it would probably make a lot more sense if you just bought a Hakko. Granted, they are expensive but worth it for serious soldering. Looks like this site might have what you need. https://www.cypax.dk/hakko
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SBJ on Fri, 23 February 2018, 01:25:19
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 22 February 2018, 10:12:21
    It might be the case that you can find Hakkos in Denmark. Considering the shipping costs to get an Aoyue there, it would probably make a lot more sense if you just bought a Hakko. Granted, they are expensive but worth it for serious soldering. Looks like this site might have what you need. https://www.cypax.dk/hakko
    Thank you for the link. I found one in my price range in there and I'll consider getting it.

    I just realized that there's a plate in the DIY kit I bought and I purchased PCB zealio switches. Looks like I've gotta mod all 100 of the switches I bought.
    Womp womp.  :))
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 February 2018, 05:25:00


    Quote from: StickyBlueJuice on Fri, 23 February 2018, 01:25:19
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 22 February 2018, 10:12:21
    It might be the case that you can find Hakkos in Denmark. Considering the shipping costs to get an Aoyue there, it would probably make a lot more sense if you just bought a Hakko. Granted, they are expensive but worth it for serious soldering. Looks like this site might have what you need. https://www.cypax.dk/hakko
    Thank you for the link. I found one in my price range in there and I'll consider getting it.

    I just realized that there's a plate in the DIY kit I bought and I purchased PCB zealio switches. Looks like I've gotta mod all 100 of the switches I bought.
    Womp womp.  :))

    Does the PCB not have the holes for the switch legs to fit in?

    Using PCB mount switches with a plate isn't an issue if the PCB has the extra leg holes.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SBJ on Fri, 23 February 2018, 06:09:50
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 February 2018, 05:25:00


    Quote from: StickyBlueJuice on Fri, 23 February 2018, 01:25:19
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 22 February 2018, 10:12:21
    It might be the case that you can find Hakkos in Denmark. Considering the shipping costs to get an Aoyue there, it would probably make a lot more sense if you just bought a Hakko. Granted, they are expensive but worth it for serious soldering. Looks like this site might have what you need. https://www.cypax.dk/hakko
    Thank you for the link. I found one in my price range in there and I'll consider getting it.

    I just realized that there's a plate in the DIY kit I bought and I purchased PCB zealio switches. Looks like I've gotta mod all 100 of the switches I bought.
    Womp womp.  :))

    Does the PCB not have the holes for the switch legs to fit in?

    Using PCB mount switches with a plate isn't an issue if the PCB has the extra leg holes.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    I don't have the PCB yet, but I'll definitely check for that before I start modding the switches, thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mikehotel on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:16:49
    I think I just broke one of the switches under the shift key on my Leopold MX Brown board. I'm somewhat new to this so it could just be that it's normal for the switch to come out of the socket. I pulled the keycap off and the left switch (of the 3) got pulled out off the stabilizer under the board. The other two are still in place.

    How can I fix it? Do I need to re-assemble the board? Please tell me  no.
    Images attached here: https://imgur.com/a/LwXJa
    You'll notice the left switch is elevated, because it's not depressed underneath as the one on the right is. That's the problematic one, on the left
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:31:16
    Quote from: mikehotel on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:16:49
    I think I just broke one of the switches under the shift key on my Leopold MX Brown board. I'm somewhat new to this so it could just be that it's normal for the switch to come out of the socket. I pulled the keycap off and the left switch (of the 3) got pulled out off the stabilizer under the board. The other two are still in place.

    How can I fix it? Do I need to re-assemble the board? Please tell me  no.
    Images attached here: https://imgur.com/a/LwXJa
    You'll notice the left switch is elevated, because it's not depressed underneath as the one on the right is. That's the problematic one, on the left

    With the keycap off, pull the right side stabilizer insert (the grey inner part) up. At the same time, reach in on the left side with a small flat blade screwdriver and try to re-seat the wire inside the insert on the left side. Then you'll need to try and *click* the wire back into the clip part of the stabilizer housing. It would be easier to visualize it if you had one there you could look at. Worst case, you have to desolder that one switch and remove it, remove the stabilizer from the plate, assemble the stabilizer, clip stabilizer into the plate, then re-insert the switch and solder it in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuppie on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:32:27
    Why are some OTD keyboards valued over $10k? or why are they valued so high?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:34:41
    Quote from: yuppie on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:32:27
    Why are some OTD keyboards valued over $10k? or why are they valued so high?

    Rarity. Korea-only availability, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yuppie on Fri, 23 February 2018, 12:25:10
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:34:41
    Quote from: yuppie on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:32:27
    Why are some OTD keyboards valued over $10k? or why are they valued so high?

    Rarity. Korea-only availability, etc.

    Acoustics?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mikehotel on Fri, 23 February 2018, 12:27:42
    Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:31:16
    Quote from: mikehotel on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:16:49
    I think I just broke one of the switches under the shift key on my Leopold MX Brown board. I'm somewhat new to this so it could just be that it's normal for the switch to come out of the socket. I pulled the keycap off and the left switch (of the 3) got pulled out off the stabilizer under the board. The other two are still in place.

    How can I fix it? Do I need to re-assemble the board? Please tell me  no.
    Images attached here: https://imgur.com/a/LwXJa
    You'll notice the left switch is elevated, because it's not depressed underneath as the one on the right is. That's the problematic one, on the left

    With the keycap off, pull the right side stabilizer insert (the grey inner part) up. At the same time, reach in on the left side with a small flat blade screwdriver and try to re-seat the wire inside the insert on the left side. Then you'll need to try and *click* the wire back into the clip part of the stabilizer housing. It would be easier to visualize it if you had one there you could look at. Worst case, you have to desolder that one switch and remove it, remove the stabilizer from the plate, assemble the stabilizer, clip stabilizer into the plate, then re-insert the switch and solder it in.

    Didn't fully grasp that. What I've done is try to lift the silver stabilizer (resembling a costar stabilizer) under the switch to the point where I can fit the switch mount (not sure what it's called, the lack plastic piece I showed in the picture) into it. Hasn't worked thus far.

    Can I pull off the right switch, so that I can then life the silver stabilizer bar up completely, and then re-seat both of the plastic pieces?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 February 2018, 13:23:58
    Quote from: mikehotel on Fri, 23 February 2018, 12:27:42
    Didn't fully grasp that. What I've done is try to lift the silver stabilizer (resembling a costar stabilizer) under the switch to the point where I can fit the switch mount (not sure what it's called, the lack plastic piece I showed in the picture) into it. Hasn't worked thus far.

    Can I pull off the right switch, so that I can then life the silver stabilizer bar up completely, and then re-seat both of the plastic pieces?

    Right, you have to do that AND you have to snap the bar into the part of the stabilizer housing where it clips in. It's almost impossible to see this junction on a plate mounted stabilizer, so I'll show you where it clips in on this image of a PCB mount stabilizer:

    (http://i.imgur.com/LJjM6oL.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mikehotel on Fri, 23 February 2018, 13:30:27
    Ok, I'll work on that, thanks.

    I'm having trouble pulling off the right switch mount (the one that I never had a problem with). Is there a direction I should pull in to remove it so I can then play with the stabilizer bar?

    Edit: I posted more pictures here of the left switch mount piece I'm referring to (the one that came out).
    Did I break it, or does it look ok?

    Pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/FTdOZ
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 February 2018, 14:02:00
    Quote from: mikehotel on Fri, 23 February 2018, 13:30:27
    Ok, I'll work on that, thanks.

    I'm having trouble pulling off the right switch mount (the one that I never had a problem with). Is there a direction I should pull in to remove it so I can then play with the stabilizer bar?

    Edit: I posted more pictures here of the left switch mount piece I'm referring to (the one that came out).
    Did I break it, or does it look ok?

    Pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/FTdOZ

    It might be broken, as they usually have two little "feet" on the bottom. But it should still work. People clip stabilizers all the time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mikehotel on Fri, 23 February 2018, 14:29:03
    Ok, I have a flathead screw driver. Just need to get this right one off
    Also, which way does this piece face? The one I was holding in the most recent image. Is the back piece with the tail supposed to face up or down?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 February 2018, 14:42:06
    There should be a side with two square holes, and that's the side the wire goes into.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stxfreak on Sat, 24 February 2018, 11:55:02
    I'm planning to order a m60-a when it's available in march and am trying to order my switches (and stabilizers?) beforehand so I get everything in before the case arrives. I got some questions regarding that:


    thanks for your help!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 24 February 2018, 12:22:11
    Quote from: stxfreak on Sat, 24 February 2018, 11:55:02
    I'm planning to order a m60-a when it's available in march and am trying to order my switches (and stabilizers?) beforehand so I get everything in before the case arrives. I got some questions regarding that:

    • will zealios fit the hot swap pcb, which the m60-a uses?
    • which stabilizers should I get - do I even need any?
    • zealios 67g vs zilen zealios 67g?

    thanks for your help!

    Not sure what PCB the M60-A uses - I see a picture of a keyboard that looks like a HHKB layout on RAMA's facebook but nothing else, so I'll keep it general.

    Basically any key that's bigger than 1.75u and smaller than 3u needs a 2u stabiliser.  On a standard ISO board that's one each for backspace, right shift and enter.  For the HHKB layout you would only need one for Enter and one for left shift.  Or you could probably have a hybrid with an ISO left shift, PCB permitting (most PCBs support ISO) or a standard backspace... the joys of a custom board :)

    In addition to this if you're planning on having a big space bar you'll need either a 6.25u (standard) or 7u stabiliser to match, or if you go for a split spacebar you'll need two more 2u ones.

    Zealio pins are standard size so should fit the hot swap sockets.

    I won't comment on choice of switch as that's personal preference.  Unless someone who sits near you would like your board to be quiet...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stxfreak on Sat, 24 February 2018, 13:01:30
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sat, 24 February 2018, 12:22:11
    Quote from: stxfreak on Sat, 24 February 2018, 11:55:02
    I'm planning to order a m60-a when it's available in march and am trying to order my switches (and stabilizers?) beforehand so I get everything in before the case arrives. I got some questions regarding that:

    • will zealios fit the hot swap pcb, which the m60-a uses?
    • which stabilizers should I get - do I even need any?
    • zealios 67g vs zilen zealios 67g?

    Thanks for your answers! Zeal has a stabiliser set as groupbuy, which includes 2 2u stabilizers and 1x6,25 u + 1x7u, with that I should be able to build either, right?

    thanks for your help!

    Not sure what PCB the M60-A uses - I see a picture of a keyboard that looks like a HHKB layout on RAMA's facebook but nothing else, so I'll keep it general.

    Basically any key that's bigger than 1.75u and smaller than 3u needs a 2u stabiliser.  On a standard ISO board that's one each for backspace, right shift and enter.  For the HHKB layout you would only need one for Enter and one for left shift.  Or you could probably have a hybrid with an ISO left shift, PCB permitting (most PCBs support ISO) or a standard backspace... the joys of a custom board :)

    In addition to this if you're planning on having a big space bar you'll need either a 6.25u (standard) or 7u stabiliser to match, or if you go for a split spacebar you'll need two more 2u ones.

    Zealio pins are standard size so should fit the hot swap sockets.

    I won't comment on choice of switch as that's personal preference.  Unless someone who sits near you would like your board to be quiet...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 24 February 2018, 13:09:38
    Quote from: stxfreak on Sat, 24 February 2018, 13:01:30
    Thanks for your answers! Zeal has a stabiliser set as groupbuy, which includes 2 2u stabilizers and 1x6,25 u + 1x7u, with that I should be able to build either, right?

    thanks for your help!
    Yes that will build the HHKB layout shown so if it's a fixed layout you're good :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: enchong on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:25:49
    I'm planning to switch to HHK Pro, right now, I'm using a TKL keyboard. I want to map my keys like the HHK. this means that I want my arrow keys to be in the letters area. The reason I want to do this is that I want to test the HHK layout before I buy it. Any suggestions on how I can do this. I'm using a realforce TKL right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:27:10
    Quote from: enchong on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:25:49
    I'm planning to switch to HHK Pro, right now, I'm using a TKL keyboard. I want to map my keys like the HHK. this means that I want my arrow keys to be in the letters area. The reason I want to do this is that I want to test the HHK layout before I buy it. Any suggestions on how I can do this. I'm using a realforce TKL right now.
    I would use an auto hotkey script for that :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: enchong on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:35:58
    Quote from: Signature on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:27:10
    Quote from: enchong on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:25:49
    I'm planning to switch to HHK Pro, right now, I'm using a TKL keyboard. I want to map my keys like the HHK. this means that I want my arrow keys to be in the letters area. The reason I want to do this is that I want to test the HHK layout before I buy it. Any suggestions on how I can do this. I'm using a realforce TKL right now.
    I would use an auto hotkey script for that :)

    Did you mean AutoHotkey script ?
    https://www.autohotkey.com/download/

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:44:40
    Quote from: enchong on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:35:58
    Quote from: Signature on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:27:10
    Quote from: enchong on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:25:49
    I'm planning to switch to HHK Pro, right now, I'm using a TKL keyboard. I want to map my keys like the HHK. this means that I want my arrow keys to be in the letters area. The reason I want to do this is that I want to test the HHK layout before I buy it. Any suggestions on how I can do this. I'm using a realforce TKL right now.
    I would use an auto hotkey script for that :)

    Did you mean AutoHotkey script ?
    https://www.autohotkey.com/download/
    Yes or a similar program, AHK is a good program tho!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: enchong on Tue, 27 February 2018, 14:08:03
    Quote from: Signature on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:44:40
    Quote from: enchong on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:35:58
    Quote from: Signature on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:27:10
    Quote from: enchong on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:25:49
    I'm planning to switch to HHK Pro, right now, I'm using a TKL keyboard. I want to map my keys like the HHK. this means that I want my arrow keys to be in the letters area. The reason I want to do this is that I want to test the HHK layout before I buy it. Any suggestions on how I can do this. I'm using a realforce TKL right now.
    I would use an auto hotkey script for that :)

    Did you mean AutoHotkey script ?
    https://www.autohotkey.com/download/
    Yes or a similar program, AHK is a good program tho!

    I found a nice script online that mimics the HHK then I modified it to disable everything else like the arrow keys home/end f1-f12 etc.

    https://github.com/lancecontreras/boilerplate/blob/master/AutoHotkey.ahk (https://github.com/lancecontreras/boilerplate/blob/master/AutoHotkey.ahk)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gorauskas on Thu, 01 March 2018, 00:55:16
    Is this good lube for one's switches? 
    Krytox GPL 202 https://www.amazon.com/Chemours-D12428324-Krytox-GPL202-Grease/dp/B073Y56KCF
    It will go on Kailh Box Black switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cldskt on Thu, 01 March 2018, 02:00:50
    I'm not sure if it has been asked before, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer anywhere. So here goes:

    Let's say I have artisan keycaps made of clear resin (think JellyKey, Latrialum, BreakWood), will it get hazy/opaque (loses its shine) over time with normal use?
    If yes, any household item I can use to buff it back to original shine?
    Some recommended toothpaste but I'm not sure if it has abrasives in it. Will something like NOVUS work?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 03 March 2018, 03:58:12
    How do you remove the spacebar of the model f at? You just pull, or does it require some magic like the model f xt? thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 03 March 2018, 07:52:50
    Quote from: Giorgio on Sat, 03 March 2018, 03:58:12
    How do you remove the spacebar of the model f at? You just pull, or does it require some magic like the model f xt? thanks

    It is mostly the same. There is a long black "undercarriage" that must be installed from below.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 03 March 2018, 08:40:11
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 03 March 2018, 07:52:50
    Quote from: Giorgio on Sat, 03 March 2018, 03:58:12
    How do you remove the spacebar of the model f at? You just pull, or does it require some magic like the model f xt? thanks

    It is mostly the same. There is a long black "undercarriage" that must be installed from below.

    Thanks, I'll open the plates and then work from below. I thought that you could just pull the spacebar like other caps but it didn't move...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: monkt on Sun, 04 March 2018, 12:37:25
    I've noticed that on mechanicalkeyboards.com some of their switch options are labeled like this: (Clear Cherry MX / Chinese: White)
    Are these any different than regular clear cherry switches ?


    Here's an example: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1895
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sun, 04 March 2018, 13:23:47
    Quote from: monkt on Sun, 04 March 2018, 12:37:25
    I've noticed that on mechanicalkeyboards.com some of their switch options are labeled like this: (Clear Cherry MX / Chinese: White)
    Are these any different than regular clear cherry switches ?

    Here's an example: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1895 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1895)

    That's just a matter of Chinese terminology / script. In Chinese, MX Clears are "white axis" and MX Whites are "milk axis".
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: monkt on Sun, 04 March 2018, 21:04:30
    Quote from: davkol on Sun, 04 March 2018, 13:23:47
    That's just a matter of Chinese terminology / script. In Chinese, MX Clears are "white axis" and MX Whites are "milk axis".


    Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 07 March 2018, 02:57:49
    This may not be an easy question but it's not complicated or thread-worthy either, so here it is.

    Why does the 'standard' handwire matrix have the diodes running along the rows so you have to mess about with extension wires for wide caps?  The vertical spacing on columns would eliminate this complication, and remove the temptation for newbies to solder them in series...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 07 March 2018, 08:51:53
    How is the mac support for keyboards with sliders, knobs and other fun stuff like QMK has support for? Do you need third party drivers? Are there third party drivers...?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:48:55
    need link for the hot pink  (not magenta) in-switch LEDs
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 12 March 2018, 14:53:39
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:48:55
    need link for the hot pink  (not magenta) in-switch LEDs
    Not sure if 625nm is hot enough but that's the only one I found. Here (https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/through-hole/red-3mm-led-30-degree-viewing-angle-5000-mcd/310/1242/).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 12 March 2018, 14:55:06
    nah i'm talking these ones

    (https://www.dhresource.com/albu_1051971619_00-1.0x0/wholesale-high-quality-and-high-lightness.jpg)

    seems i can only find on taobao

    actually to be fair that looks pretty magenta. i just mean NOT these ones

    (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1koVXLVXXXXb9XFXXq6xXFXXXg/100pcs-2x3x4-Pink-led-light-emitting-diode-super-bright-water-clear-600-800mcd.jpg_640x640.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ventamora on Fri, 16 March 2018, 15:41:16
    how would one label ISO DE keys like ÖÄÜ and °`´ in KLE (keyboard layout editor) so you won't get an error on kai.tkg.io ? I can't flash my ISO DE layout onto my XD84 becaue of that :c
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RJee on Sat, 17 March 2018, 15:59:56
    Quick question. Is it possible to replace the keycaps on a German ISO layout WASD Code? I'd like to change it to ANSI. Can probably get the board pretty cheap.
    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 17 March 2018, 16:27:20
    Quote from: Ventamora on Fri, 16 March 2018, 15:41:16
    how would one label ISO DE keys like ÖÄÜ and °`´ in KLE (keyboard layout editor) so you won't get an error on kai.tkg.io ? I can't flash my ISO DE layout onto my XD84 becaue of that :c
    Simply, you don't. This post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.msg2464029#msg2464029) should explain you the reason.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 17 March 2018, 16:29:53
    Quote from: RJee on Sat, 17 March 2018, 15:59:56
    Is it possible to replace the keycaps on a German ISO layout WASD Code? I'd like to change it to ANSI.
    Short answer is no. There are differences between ANSI and ISO and you would need to modify the board significantly to switch from one layout to the other.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: RJee on Sat, 17 March 2018, 16:31:08
    Quote from: TalkingTree on Sat, 17 March 2018, 16:29:53
    Quote from: RJee on Sat, 17 March 2018, 15:59:56
    Is it possible to replace the keycaps on a German ISO layout WASD Code? I'd like to change it to ANSI.
    Short answer is no. There are differences between ANSI and ISO and you would need to modify the board significantly to switch from one layout to the other.
    meh... :(
    thx for the reply
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: enchong on Sun, 18 March 2018, 11:36:44
    Hi, I just got my HHKB Pro 2, I would like to program another layer in it. I'm a vim user so I want to use HJKL as my arrow keys in this particular layer. I've been looking around on how I can do it but what I've seen is by using an alt controller. Is there any way I can do it without any hardware modifications? Please add some links to instructions if possible.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: davkol on Sun, 18 March 2018, 11:41:40
    You can customize your keymap or program some software macros (which is OS dependent: it'll be different in *nix w/ X.Org, MS Windows, MacOS etc.) or connect the keyboard to an usb-to-usb converter (another hasu's project), but in either case you won't be able to customize the Fn keys/layer, because it only exists on internal controller's firmware level.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 18 March 2018, 16:37:07
    Quote from: enchong on Sun, 18 March 2018, 11:36:44
    Hi, I just got my HHKB Pro 2, I would like to program another layer in it. I'm a vim user so I want to use HJKL as my arrow keys in this particular layer. I've been looking around on how I can do it but what I've seen is by using an alt controller. Is there any way I can do it without any hardware modifications? Please add some links to instructions if possible.

    Only using input editing. Hasu's controller is recommended, it's basically all you need, it's pretty cheap & always stocked.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: enchong on Sun, 18 March 2018, 20:29:16
    Where can I buy the hasu controller?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 18 March 2018, 20:35:11
    Quote from: enchong on Sun, 18 March 2018, 20:29:16
    Where can I buy the hasu controller?

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71517.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 19 March 2018, 19:10:45
    HHKB BT

    Is the micro USB port in the back really only for providing power in case the batteries die?  You can't use the keyboard with a computer via USB?  :| 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:45:49
    Derp

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:49:31
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:45:49
    Derp

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

     ;)

    disregard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:54:04
    what's the distance between this 2u stabilizer ends (mm)?
    [attachimg=1]

    sorry, i don't have mx caps right now...

    UPDATE: found it and it says 12mm
    http://blog.maxkeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/MAX_Keycap_Profile_Size_Info.png
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 20 March 2018, 04:25:56
    Quote from: pabile on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:54:04
    it says 12mm
    It says 12mm from stabilizer to switch. it's then 24mm from stabilizer to stabilizer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Tue, 20 March 2018, 06:38:56
    Quote from: TalkingTree on Tue, 20 March 2018, 04:25:56
    Quote from: pabile on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:54:04
    it says 12mm
    It says 12mm from stabilizer to switch. it's then 24mm from stabilizer to stabilizer.
    good call! thanks a lot!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 31 March 2018, 19:49:44
    Hello, good afternoon. Question here, Will a 66% 2.5.1 Cherry MX/Alps PCB fit into a Leopold FC660M? I want to make a project, and I don't feel like waiting for Clueboard's DIY to come out in MD

    Also if someone can direct to me the preferred stabilizers for Alps/Matias switches that'd be awesome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sat, 31 March 2018, 19:57:35
    Quote from: pabile on Tue, 20 March 2018, 06:38:56
    Quote from: TalkingTree on Tue, 20 March 2018, 04:25:56
    Quote from: pabile on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:54:04
    it says 12mm
    It says 12mm from stabilizer to switch. it's then 24mm from stabilizer to stabilizer.
    good call! thanks a lot!

    It's 11.938mm for future reference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PollandAkuma on Mon, 02 April 2018, 11:54:46
    Simple questions: are mx speeds smoother and shorter than mx reds

    Is mx silent reds or mx speeds better in terms of typing experience
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: duckboi on Sun, 15 April 2018, 06:42:49
    Quote from: PollandAkuma on Mon, 02 April 2018, 11:54:46
    Simple questions: are mx speeds smoother and shorter than mx reds

    Is mx silent reds or mx speeds better in terms of typing experience

    MX Speed travel distance seems to be 3.4mm and MX Silent reds have 3.7mm travel distance. As long as you get retooled switches they should be similarly smooth. In terms of typing experience, its preference but I like having the larger travel and the softer bottom out, so I would say silent reds personally.  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 18 April 2018, 01:55:43
    What 60% pcbs support rgb backlighting but also can allow for customized lighting modes? I'm a dev if that helps. Was looking at the zeal60 but I'm not sure if I'm able to add new lighting modes and macros to support them.

    Would like to have a mode where the lighting starts out white  for all keys and each individual led changes color as you type the corresponding key, plus the ability to "reset" it back to all white.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: donut_sauce on Thu, 19 April 2018, 11:32:33
    Is there any difference between stabilizer wires across mount types? I.e. is the 7u stabilizer wire in cherry plate mount version the same as the 7u wire in a cherry screw in?

    I’m out of 7u screw in stabs and so is NovelKeys, so I’m thinking of just ordering some plate mount for the wire and using the parts from my plethora of 2u screw in stabs.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ramencup on Tue, 24 April 2018, 09:48:11
    What is the most common donor board for Alps SKCM Blues, and how much should I be willing to spend?

    Also, how good are Alps SKCM Whites compared to Blues? A lot of the donor boards were produced in both White and Blue variants and I want to know I'll have good switches even if I lose the roulette.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ___q on Tue, 24 April 2018, 10:13:16
    Quote from: elcubismo on Wed, 18 April 2018, 01:55:43
    What 60% pcbs support rgb backlighting but also can allow for customized lighting modes? I'm a dev if that helps. Was looking at the zeal60 but I'm not sure if I'm able to add new lighting modes and macros to support them.

    Would like to have a mode where the lighting starts out white  for all keys and each individual led changes color as you type the corresponding key, plus the ability to "reset" it back to all white.

    If you are a developer and can write any amount of C you can add new lighting modes to the zeal60, I wrote a bit of code to implement the "turn on backlight when any key is depressed" flashy typing mode and it was very straightforward (albeit that example is simpler than the functionality you want). 


    Quote from: ramencup on Tue, 24 April 2018, 09:48:11
    What is the most common donor board for Alps SKCM Blues, and how much should I be willing to spend?

    Also, how good are Alps SKCM Whites compared to Blues? A lot of the donor boards were produced in both White and Blue variants and I want to know I'll have good switches even if I lose the roulette.

    I cannot speak to donor boards or prices (I killed a Chicony KB-5181 for its blues at one point, but that model came with a ton of different switches). But, the transition from SKCM Blue to White is a bit tricky -- I think the general consensus is that different pieces (switch plates, sliders, etc.) were changed at different times, and so late production blues are similar to early production whites.  In my opinion, (SKCM, not simplified) White is still a great switch, and Blues are just a bit smoother.  But I have not tried a ton of boards with each so there is certainly some sample bias at play.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 24 April 2018, 12:38:30
    Pretty much the only boards with a greater than 90% chance of getting Blue Alps are the Leading Edge DC-2014 and the NEC PC-8801mk II sr. I have sold approximately 10-15 boards with them over the years and here is how much I sold them for by year:

    2014: $60
    2015: $100
    2016: $120
    2017: $150
    2018: $200

    These are for used models. NIB/NOS will go for much higher, as I've seen a new Northgate go for over $500.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Tue, 24 April 2018, 13:39:51
    Quote from: ___q on Tue, 24 April 2018, 10:13:16
    Quote from: elcubismo on Wed, 18 April 2018, 01:55:43
    What 60% pcbs support rgb backlighting but also can allow for customized lighting modes? I'm a dev if that helps. Was looking at the zeal60 but I'm not sure if I'm able to add new lighting modes and macros to support them.

    Would like to have a mode where the lighting starts out white  for all keys and each individual led changes color as you type the corresponding key, plus the ability to "reset" it back to all white.

    If you are a developer and can write any amount of C you can add new lighting modes to the zeal60, I wrote a bit of code to implement the "turn on backlight when any key is depressed" flashy typing mode and it was very straightforward (albeit that example is simpler than the functionality you want). 

    Good to know! Though I'm a little sad to see that the zeal60 rev 3 is now out of stock the day I decide to pull the trigger on it :P
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: proto on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:14:27
    where can I get hot swap sockets that fit the kailh box switches and a zeal 60 board. I would rather not buy the zeal ones as I don't wish to spend the money for the gold plated premium.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: duckboi on Thu, 26 April 2018, 12:18:45
    Quote from: proto on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:14:27
    where can I get hot swap sockets that fit the kailh box switches and a zeal 60 board. I would rather not buy the zeal ones as I don't wish to spend the money for the gold plated premium.

    You can get hotswap sockets here: https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/miscellaneous/products/kailh-pcb-sockets?variant=3747975430184

    They'll fit the kailh switches but I don't think the sockets will fit on the zeal60 since it's not designed for them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Duckyreddy on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:10:05
    Hey guys!
    Does anyone know if the GMK Classic Retro Cyrillic set actually have pad printed Cyrillic legends?
    I was looking at it on Originative Co and saw this  :-[

    (https://i.imgur.com/qF0nWFl.png)

    Link here: https://www.originativeco.com/products/classic-retro-cyrillic?variant=42201024784

    (please excuse the silly question, complete GMK noob here)

    Thanks in advance!  :thumb:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:24:10
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:10:05
    Hey guys!
    Does anyone know if the GMK Classic Retro Cyrillic set actually have pad printed Cyrillic legends?
    I was looking at it on Originative Co and saw this  :-[

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/qF0nWFl.png)


    Link here: https://www.originativeco.com/products/classic-retro-cyrillic?variant=42201024784

    (please excuse the silly question, complete GMK noob here)

    Thanks in advance!  :thumb:

    Yes, the Cyrillic legends, and legends on the windowed caps are pad print. 

    Hoping GMK can do triple shot one day.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Duckyreddy on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:38:13
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:24:10
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:10:05
    Hey guys!
    Does anyone know if the GMK Classic Retro Cyrillic set actually have pad printed Cyrillic legends?
    I was looking at it on Originative Co and saw this  :-[

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/qF0nWFl.png)


    Link here: https://www.originativeco.com/products/classic-retro-cyrillic?variant=42201024784

    (please excuse the silly question, complete GMK noob here)

    Thanks in advance!  :thumb:

    Yes, the Cyrillic legends, and legends on the windowed caps are pad print. 

    Hoping GMK can do triple shot one day.

    I really do love the Cyrillic look, its a shame its pad printed 
    I would love for it to last 4everrrr

    I was planning to put the set on a FC980M, I had my eyes set on Miami Nights but this one got my attention, both gorgeous though!
    With our technology in this day and age, I'm sure Tripleshot won't be too far away hehehe

    Edit: Forgot to say thank you :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 29 April 2018, 05:33:52
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:38:13
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:24:10
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:10:05
    Hey guys!
    Does anyone know if the GMK Classic Retro Cyrillic set actually have pad printed Cyrillic legends?
    I was looking at it on Originative Co and saw this  :-[

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/qF0nWFl.png)


    Link here: https://www.originativeco.com/products/classic-retro-cyrillic?variant=42201024784

    (please excuse the silly question, complete GMK noob here)

    Thanks in advance!  :thumb:

    Yes, the Cyrillic legends, and legends on the windowed caps are pad print. 

    Hoping GMK can do triple shot one day.

    I really do love the Cyrillic look, its a shame its pad printed 
    I would love for it to last 4everrrr

    I was planning to put the set on a FC980M, I had my eyes set on Miami Nights but this one got my attention, both gorgeous though!
    With our technology in this day and age, I'm sure Tripleshot won't be too far away hehehe

    Edit: Forgot to say thank you :)

    If you're not too focused on GMK, enjoyPBT does a nice red-cyrillic beige set for much less and it's all dye-subbed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: proto on Sun, 29 April 2018, 17:16:15
    Quote from: shadowEZX on Thu, 26 April 2018, 12:18:45
    Quote from: proto on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:14:27
    where can I get hot swap sockets that fit the kailh box switches and a zeal 60 board. I would rather not buy the zeal ones as I don't wish to spend the money for the gold plated premium.

    You can get hotswap sockets here: https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/miscellaneous/products/kailh-pcb-sockets?variant=3747975430184

    They'll fit the kailh switches but I don't think the sockets will fit on the zeal60 since it's not designed for them.
    Yes unfortunately they wont fit the Zeal60 I have already checked. Any other places?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 29 April 2018, 17:26:28
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Sun, 29 April 2018, 05:33:52
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:38:13
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:24:10
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:10:05
    Hey guys!
    Does anyone know if the GMK Classic Retro Cyrillic set actually have pad printed Cyrillic legends?
    I was looking at it on Originative Co and saw this  :-[

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/qF0nWFl.png)


    Link here: https://www.originativeco.com/products/classic-retro-cyrillic?variant=42201024784

    (please excuse the silly question, complete GMK noob here)

    Thanks in advance!  :thumb:

    Yes, the Cyrillic legends, and legends on the windowed caps are pad print. 

    Hoping GMK can do triple shot one day.

    I really do love the Cyrillic look, its a shame its pad printed 
    I would love for it to last 4everrrr

    I was planning to put the set on a FC980M, I had my eyes set on Miami Nights but this one got my attention, both gorgeous though!
    With our technology in this day and age, I'm sure Tripleshot won't be too far away hehehe

    Edit: Forgot to say thank you :)

    If you're not too focused on GMK, enjoyPBT does a nice red-cyrillic beige set for much less and it's all dye-subbed.

    +1  Good suggestion.  I should've thought of that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Duckyreddy on Sun, 29 April 2018, 18:18:10
    Quote from: pr0ximity on Sun, 29 April 2018, 05:33:52
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:38:13
    Quote from: CommonCurt on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:24:10
    Quote from: Duckyreddy on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:10:05
    Hey guys!
    Does anyone know if the GMK Classic Retro Cyrillic set actually have pad printed Cyrillic legends?
    I was looking at it on Originative Co and saw this  :-[

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/qF0nWFl.png)


    Link here: https://www.originativeco.com/products/classic-retro-cyrillic?variant=42201024784

    (please excuse the silly question, complete GMK noob here)

    Thanks in advance!  :thumb:

    Yes, the Cyrillic legends, and legends on the windowed caps are pad print. 

    Hoping GMK can do triple shot one day.

    I really do love the Cyrillic look, its a shame its pad printed 
    I would love for it to last 4everrrr

    I was planning to put the set on a FC980M, I had my eyes set on Miami Nights but this one got my attention, both gorgeous though!
    With our technology in this day and age, I'm sure Tripleshot won't be too far away hehehe

    Edit: Forgot to say thank you :)

    If you're not too focused on GMK, enjoyPBT does a nice red-cyrillic beige set for much less and it's all dye-subbed.

    Could you please link it? Thankss :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: qq on Sun, 29 April 2018, 23:22:38
    What is the difference between GMK Cherry MX stabilizers (plate mount) and other cheap "genuine" Cherry M stabilizers on ebay such as these stabs (https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?&_nkw=genuine+cherry+stabilizers&_sacat=0)? I have cheap "genuine" stabs installed on my K-type (as replacements of the crappy stock stabs). I may consider GMK stabs if they bring up significantly better typing experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: elcubismo on Fri, 04 May 2018, 11:35:59
    Any 60% PCBs that support per-key in-switch backlighting? I just need a reactive mode because I want to show off my POMs in a subtle way.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ramencup on Fri, 04 May 2018, 20:34:51
    How are SKCM Whites?
    Just looking for a smooth and decently tactile switch with a deeper click than what MX-compatible switches offer.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 05 May 2018, 06:13:30
    White Alps aren't bad, they are better than clicky MX switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bear95 on Sat, 12 May 2018, 18:23:48
    A lot of new different switch manufacturers have come up since I've been here.. is anything worthwhile trying out? As a person who preferred cherry mx black does anybody recommend trying any new switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 13 May 2018, 03:04:53
    Quote from: bear95 on Sat, 12 May 2018, 18:23:48
    A lot of new different switch manufacturers have come up since I've been here.. is anything worthwhile trying out? As a person who preferred cherry mx black does anybody recommend trying any new switches?
    One linear switch is much like another, the only differences can be with the weight, smoothness, activation height, wobble and noise (silenced versions) - which of these would you like to change? 

    Or were you thinking of trying something completely different in case your taste has changed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Sun, 13 May 2018, 11:08:14
    Could anyone recommend me some purchase options for a 96 key layout board? I love the look of the RS96 but apparently the plate was botched. Preferring something with as minimal headache as possible. I'm guessing I'll just have to hunt a board down on mm.

    EDIT: Going with the Kira, whenever it comes out. Just barely missed the kickstarter. Suuuuucks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: portbaron on Tue, 15 May 2018, 02:59:50
    Edit - solved.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 09:50:35
    Is "standard" size for Tab 1.5u?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bear95 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 14:23:49
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sun, 13 May 2018, 03:04:53
    Quote from: bear95 on Sat, 12 May 2018, 18:23:48
    A lot of new different switch manufacturers have come up since I've been here.. is anything worthwhile trying out? As a person who preferred cherry mx black does anybody recommend trying any new switches?
    One linear switch is much like another, the only differences can be with the weight, smoothness, activation height, wobble and noise (silenced versions) - which of these would you like to change? 

    Or were you thinking of trying something completely different in case your taste has changed?

    I was actually looking at the new silent version of the mx black(prefer the heavier actuation force). Seems like not a lot of people use it tho and other than the slightly lower travel distance can't seem to find much about it. I've read that gateron switches are smoother but couldn't find anything if it was quieter(which I value more). I'm probably going to mod it to make it even more quieter but would you say cherry silent blacks are the quietest switch to start with?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Tue, 15 May 2018, 14:24:18
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 09:50:35
    Is "standard" size for Tab 1.5u?

    yes
    Title: Focus FK-2001 Replacement Case?
    Post by: Sick Robotron on Sun, 20 May 2018, 09:14:45
    Hi guys- I recently purchased a Focus FK-2001. It turned out to have Alps SKCM White Pine switches. I cleaned out all of the switch housings and restored clickiness and tactility to the switches. The keyboard feels pretty good now, but the sound is rather horrendous (sounds like I am typing on lego pieces soldered to a garbage can). I believe this is caused by the shoddy plastic case (and maybe the keycaps? though they are double shot ABS). Anyone know of a good candidate for a transfer case? Could really use the advice of anyone who has more experience with these boards :)!


    Title: Re: Focus FK-2001 Replacement Case?
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 15:56:33
    Quote from: Sick Robotron on Sun, 20 May 2018, 09:14:45
    Hi guys- I recently purchased a Focus FK-2001. It turned out to have Alps SKCM White Pine switches. I cleaned out all of the switch housings and restored clickiness and tactility to the switches. The keyboard feels pretty good now, but the sound is rather horrendous (sounds like I am typing on lego pieces soldered to a garbage can). I believe this is caused by the shoddy plastic case (and maybe the keycaps? though they are double shot ABS). Anyone know of a good candidate for a transfer case? Could really use the advice of anyone who has more experience with these boards :)!

    There are so many Alps cases that are all so slightly different that I'd put money on one not existing.

    Keycap material shouldn't change the sound too much. The thickness does. Although I can't think of any thick Alps caps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:03:34
    Is there any source to get standard GMK L9 blank 2.25 and 2.75 keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:10:04
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:03:34
    Is there any source to get standard GMK L9 blank 2.25 and 2.75 keys?

    No but you could buy a GMK 9009 R2 spacebar kit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:23:03
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:10:04
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:03:34
    Is there any source to get standard GMK L9 blank 2.25 and 2.75 keys?

    No but you could buy a GMK 9009 R2 spacebar kit.

    Is there any source for it? Or you meant to get it in the classifieds? I explored some places that reported it out of stock. I think I could wait for Wodam's upcoming split kit, whenever it happens. I will also add them in my wanted list to see if someone that got the 9009 R2 do not use them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xondat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:24:41
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:23:03
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:10:04
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:03:34
    Is there any source to get standard GMK L9 blank 2.25 and 2.75 keys?

    No but you could buy a GMK 9009 R2 spacebar kit.

    Is there any source for it? Or you meant to get it in the classifieds? I explored some places that reported it out of stock. I think I could wait for Wodam's upcoming split kit, whenever it happens. I will also add them in my wanted list to see if someone that got the 9009 R2 do not use them.

    Believe everywhere sold out, so classified/mechmarket it is.

    Got a link to Wodan's kit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:27:19
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:24:41
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:23:03
    Quote from: xondat on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:10:04
    Quote from: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 17:03:34
    Is there any source to get standard GMK L9 blank 2.25 and 2.75 keys?

    No but you could buy a GMK 9009 R2 spacebar kit.

    Is there any source for it? Or you meant to get it in the classifieds? I explored some places that reported it out of stock. I think I could wait for Wodam's upcoming split kit, whenever it happens. I will also add them in my wanted list to see if someone that got the 9009 R2 do not use them.

    Believe everywhere sold out, so classified/mechmarket it is.

    Got a link to Wodan's kit?

    https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/hadapter-kit-round-ii-t14441.html

    It is still a plan; but, Wodan's trustable guy, so I am sure it may happen at some point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 24 May 2018, 17:17:38
    who does low/no MOQ dyesub novelties these days?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 25 May 2018, 11:47:42
    Quote from: Sifo on Thu, 24 May 2018, 17:17:38
    who does low/no MOQ dyesub novelties these days?
    I was told to ask u/dartdart (https://www.reddit.com/user/dartdart) but I'm yet to make a deal with the gentleman 'cause he's currently out of the keycaps profile and base colour that I'm after.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 25 May 2018, 16:21:44
    I want to swap the sliders on my 87u with NT sliders, but the housing and slider for the left control is a different shape to accommodate the LED.
    Can I just desolder that led and dremel the plate to fit a standard NT housing and slider?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Sat, 26 May 2018, 05:47:08
    Quote from: MajorKoos on Fri, 25 May 2018, 16:21:44
    I want to swap the sliders on my 87u with NT sliders, but the housing and slider for the left control is a different shape to accommodate the LED.
    Can I just desolder that led and dremel the plate to fit a standard NT housing and slider?

    don't think you even need to desolder the LED, just dremel the plate

    there's a few people on gh and /r/mk that have done this
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 26 May 2018, 06:19:05
    Quote from: nmur on Sat, 26 May 2018, 05:47:08
    Quote from: MajorKoos on Fri, 25 May 2018, 16:21:44
    I want to swap the sliders on my 87u with NT sliders, but the housing and slider for the left control is a different shape to accommodate the LED.
    Can I just desolder that led and dremel the plate to fit a standard NT housing and slider?

    don't think you even need to desolder the LED, just dremel the plate

    there's a few people on gh and /r/mk that have done this

    Success.
    I needed to remove the LED too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 30 May 2018, 15:04:22
    Anyone know how to take a Model F apart from the IBM 5155?
    Title: M0110a layout modification
    Post by: Sick Robotron on Sat, 02 June 2018, 00:24:59
    Hi guys -I am trying to modify the layout on my M0110a with Hasu's converter. I used the browser tool to create the .hex file, and installed Atmel Flip. I navigate to device selection and choose ATmega32u2, but When I "select a communication medium" and choose "USB", Atmel returns this error: "AtLibUsbDfu.dll not found". I'm sure this is a newbie question!! Thanks!
    Title: Re: M0110a layout modification
    Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 02 June 2018, 09:31:28
    Quote from: Sick Robotron on Sat, 02 June 2018, 00:24:59
    Hi guys -I am trying to modify the layout on my M0110a with Hasu's converter. I used the browser tool to create the .hex file, and installed Atmel Flip. I navigate to device selection and choose ATmega32u2, but When I "select a communication medium" and choose "USB", Atmel returns this error: "AtLibUsbDfu.dll not found". I'm sure this is a newbie question!! Thanks!

    Try installing the driver in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Atmel\Flip 3.4.7\usb"
    Right click --> install on the .inf file.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 05 June 2018, 12:42:43
    Anyone know the weight of just one Alps switch? I have a sensitive scale, but even my scale isn't accurate down to tenths of a gram.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 00:04:29
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 05 June 2018, 12:42:43
    Anyone know the weight of just one Alps switch? I have a sensitive scale, but even my scale isn't accurate down to tenths of a gram.

    I don't know the weight, but if you want it that precise, might it vary between complicated and simplified alps? Would it work for your purposes to get an estimate by weighing a group of 10 or 20 switches and taking the average?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kilgarah on Thu, 07 June 2018, 09:54:04
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 05 June 2018, 12:42:43
    Anyone know the weight of just one Alps switch? I have a sensitive scale, but even my scale isn't accurate down to tenths of a gram.
    It's tough to give a weight of an Alps switch in the standard sense. The "weight" of an SKCM Alps switch is often not dependant on the spring, but rather on the stiffness of the tactile leaf. SKCL switches, however, should be measurable by spring weight.

    Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:48:21
    Quote from: Kilgarah on Thu, 07 June 2018, 09:54:04
    It's tough to give a weight of an Alps switch in the standard sense. The "weight" of an SKCM Alps switch is often not dependant on the spring, but rather on the stiffness of the tactile leaf. SKCL switches, however, should be measurable by spring weight.

    Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

    I'm not talking about spring weight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kilgarah on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:52:16
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:48:21
    Quote from: Kilgarah on Thu, 07 June 2018, 09:54:04
    It's tough to give a weight of an Alps switch in the standard sense. The "weight" of an SKCM Alps switch is often not dependant on the spring, but rather on the stiffness of the tactile leaf. SKCL switches, however, should be measurable by spring weight.

    Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

    I'm not talking about spring weight.
    Then what exactly are you talking about? Actuation force? Bottom out force? You asked about weight, which is generally associated with springs, not tactile leaves.

    Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:53:34
    Quote from: Kilgarah on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:52:16
    Then what exactly are you talking about? Actuation force? Bottom out force? You asked about weight, which is generally associated with springs, not tactile leaves.

    Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

    No, I'm talking about how much mass any given Alps switch has. Not talking about force, springs, leaves, or anything. Just physical weight.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kilgarah on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:54:56
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:53:34
    Quote from: Kilgarah on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:52:16
    Then what exactly are you talking about? Actuation force? Bottom out force? You asked about weight, which is generally associated with springs, not tactile leaves.

    Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

    No, I'm talking about how much mass any given Alps switch has. Not talking about force, springs, leaves, or anything. Just physical weight.
    Ah, I see. My bad. I misunderstood. Can I ask why you want that particular metric?

    Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:28:39
    Quote from: Kilgarah on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:54:56
    Ah, I see. My bad. I misunderstood. Can I ask why you want that particular metric?

    Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

    I'm currently running a group buy for over 7000 switches (which I still have to sort). It would be nice to get invoices sent out now, instead of after sorting all of them and then having to wait for a response.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MonsterZero on Tue, 12 June 2018, 04:33:53
    what to lube plastic stab sliders with if i dont have teflon grease?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 12 June 2018, 06:34:24
    Quote from: MonsterZero on Tue, 12 June 2018, 04:33:53
    what to lube plastic stab sliders with if i dont have teflon grease?

    I mean Dielectric grease is easy to find and generally a good choice for stabs. Cheap too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MonsterZero on Tue, 12 June 2018, 07:24:38
    Quote from: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 12 June 2018, 06:34:24
    Quote from: MonsterZero on Tue, 12 June 2018, 04:33:53
    what to lube plastic stab sliders with if i dont have teflon grease?

    I mean Dielectric grease is easy to find and generally a good choice for stabs. Cheap too.

    already have that for wire-on-plastic

    are you saying i should use di-grease on plastic-on-plastic parts also?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Potatoes on Tue, 12 June 2018, 16:41:46
    Trying to install qmk on a tada68 and I've been following this tutorial (https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AIwTQqp3cZXgKBM&cid=8101D1D32AF0020F&id=8101D1D32AF0020F%2122170&parId=8101D1D32AF0020F%2122165&o=OneUp).

    I'm just on the QMK firmware installation portion. "1. Download the qmk_firmware-master.zip file here:", part. Right at the top.

    So I'm on step 7 and at the end of the installation it's asking me...

    Quote
    Which USb dirvers do you want to install?

    (a)all - all supported rivers will be installed
    (c)onneced - Only divers for connected keyboards (in bootloader/flashing mode) will be installed
    (f)force - Like all, but will also override existing drivers for connected keyboards
    (n)one - No dirvers will be installed, flashing your keyboard will most likely not work.

    (ac/f/n)?

    Which am I supposed to choose?

    I went with A lol. Guessed
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Plstic on Sun, 17 June 2018, 00:14:10
    What are some nkro or 6kro keyboards that have alps switches? I know the ominikeys  but they're way too expensive. My focus 2000 is not cutting it with only 2kro.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ROBINKA486 on Sun, 17 June 2018, 15:56:10
    hi, simple question, mechanical or not? i only have 2 pictures, i wanna buy it.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 18 June 2018, 08:22:19
    It's made by SMK, so probably, but there's not much to go in those pictures.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nyunyu on Mon, 18 June 2018, 11:31:45
    Is there any keyboard firmware for ATMega32U4 (/Teensy 2.0/Arduino Micro), which supports keyboard sending scan codes over serial interface?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ROBINKA486 on Mon, 18 June 2018, 12:00:53
    Sorry for being newbie but this one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 18 June 2018, 15:25:57
    Alps-mount rubber dome.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DonutiKilla on Wed, 20 June 2018, 10:11:55
    Has anyone had success with programming the tada68 with QMK?

    My keyboard works but  I can’t get any of the QMK features to work like esc~, ralt_T(kc), LSFT_T(kc), MO, cut, paste, etc. I’ve used both methods, qmk configuator to compile my hex and I have modified a  .h file. Both converted hex to bin with MSYS and flashed to tadad68 as FLASH.BIN . Keyboard works but not any QMK features?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Tue, 26 June 2018, 09:20:45
    does anyone know what kind of process was used to make cherry switch sticker sheets? laser cut vinyl stickers?

    haven't been able to find suppliers that will do cheap, custom designs, on single colour vinyl
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 28 June 2018, 05:18:26
    Quote from: nmur on Tue, 26 June 2018, 09:20:45
    does anyone know what kind of process was used to make cherry switch sticker sheets? laser cut vinyl stickers?

    haven't been able to find suppliers that will do cheap, custom designs, on single colour vinyl

    Yup, laser cut vinyl stckers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 28 June 2018, 08:36:49
    Quote from: nmur on Tue, 26 June 2018, 09:20:45
    does anyone know what kind of process was used to make cherry switch sticker sheets? laser cut vinyl stickers?

    haven't been able to find suppliers that will do cheap, custom designs, on single colour vinyl

    Switch stickers are cut from vinyl sheets with a plotter / Cutter.

    From my experience a lot of places will refuse to do switch stickers tho since they are not equipped to do small detailed parts.

    As far a I understand cutting small details requires an omnidirectional blade instead of a free rotating blade
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Thu, 28 June 2018, 08:47:38
    Quote from: FoC_Tow on Thu, 28 June 2018, 08:36:49
    Quote from: nmur on Tue, 26 June 2018, 09:20:45
    does anyone know what kind of process was used to make cherry switch sticker sheets? laser cut vinyl stickers?

    haven't been able to find suppliers that will do cheap, custom designs, on single colour vinyl

    Switch stickers are cut from vinyl sheets with a plotter / Cutter.

    From my experience a lot of places will refuse to do switch stickers tho since they are not equipped to do small detailed parts.

    As far a I understand cutting small details requires an omnidirectional blade instead of a free rotating blade
    what I'm thinking of is hopefully a little simpler; think of a sheet cut roughly with the same dimensions and holes as a 60% switch plate

    holes themselves might be the hard part
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 28 June 2018, 16:26:11
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Tue, 10 July 2018, 01:13:58
    Trying to buy a Microsoft Surface Pro or -Laptop with ANSI layout in Norway.

    Found a store that lists some products as English International. Is that ANSI?

    Also, is there a way to find more information and possibly images using a product/model number?

    FFQ-00013
    DAH-00014
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 10 July 2018, 12:25:44
    Quote from: Acerk on Tue, 10 July 2018, 01:13:58
    Trying to buy a Microsoft Surface Pro or -Laptop with ANSI layout in Norway.

    Found a store that lists some products as English International. Is that ANSI?

    Also, is there a way to find more information and possibly images using a product/model number?

    FFQ-00013
    DAH-00014

    From the part# for the cover (FFQ-00013) it looks like it's ANSI.
    https://notebooki.pl/laptop-microsoft-surface-pro-signature-type-cover-platinum-ffq-00013-klawiatura-ffq-00013-GWARANCJA-9794.html
    https://www.jacob.de/produkte/microsoft-surface-pro-signature-type-cover-ffq-00013-artnr-3728269.html
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Acerk on Tue, 10 July 2018, 17:25:23
    Quote from: MajorKoos on Tue, 10 July 2018, 12:25:44
    From the part# for the cover (FFQ-00013) it looks like it's ANSI.
    Thank you! :thumb:

    I think I'll go for the Microsoft Surface Pro instead of Laptop, so I'm not tied to a keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 10 July 2018, 17:35:05
    Quote from: Acerk on Tue, 10 July 2018, 17:25:23
    Quote from: MajorKoos on Tue, 10 July 2018, 12:25:44
    From the part# for the cover (FFQ-00013) it looks like it's ANSI.
    Thank you! :thumb:

    I think I'll go for the Microsoft Surface Pro instead of Laptop, so I'm not tied to a keyboard.

    Great choice.
    The keyboard cover is useful for being both a screen protector and a usable keyboard that's really easy to get out of the way when you want to use your Bluetooth CA66 ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: YakMN on Wed, 11 July 2018, 21:26:25
    Anybody know what kind of computer or terminal this would have come out of? I found it in a warehouse of old computer parts. The owner doesn't remember what it might have been from. I cleaned it up a bit, and found a few things, but I can't find any images online that look like this layout.


    [attachimg=1]

    [attach=2]
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    [attach=4]
    [attach=5]
    [attach=6]
    [attach=7]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 16 July 2018, 06:11:49
    swill’s plate builder doesn't tell me... are the cutouts of the plate the same for both PCB mount and plate mount stabs?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HokieGeek on Sat, 21 July 2018, 07:40:19
    I really need an enclosure for a (very likely handwired) 5x12 ortho. I welcome any suggestions.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: razen on Mon, 23 July 2018, 09:10:24
    Hello guys
    I got two Dah Yang K160 with blue cherry clones,they were dead at the time i tried to use it.apparently was not the keyboards but my din5 to ps/2 adapter.
    Today i purchased a new adapter, and fired some keyboards up and everything works fine.
    Except my two K160, Switch is on AT mode plugging keyboard while pc off gets me all leds light up and they stay.
    Pc will not recognise them as a keyboards or as hardware at all.
    Can anyone help me figure their problem?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 26 July 2018, 01:02:00
    Anyone have any luck with something like this https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.708c442aDuR22n&id=565823984744 (https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.708c442aDuR22n&id=565823984744)
    I have a couple G81-3000 cases on the way and would love to fill at least one of them.
    Is it safe to assume that even if a proxy is required something like this would be cheaper and easier than sourcing a plate, or are there G80-3000 style plates / PCBs (ideally NKRO) floating around elsewhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Thu, 26 July 2018, 04:58:11
    I know you guys are too much of keyboards connoisseurs for this brand (  ;D ) but i'm looking for the new Corsair K70 Mk. 2 SE with European QWERTZ layout, and I can't seem to find it anywhere. Am I just bad at using the intertubes or you really can't find it anywhere in this version ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 26 July 2018, 10:32:48
    Quote from: Norz on Thu, 26 July 2018, 04:58:11
    I know you guys are too much of keyboards connoisseurs for this brand (  ;D ) but i'm looking for the new Corsair K70 Mk. 2 SE with European QWERTZ layout, and I can't seem to find it anywhere. Am I just bad at using the intertubes or you really can't find it anywhere in this version ?

    https://amzn.to/2Lt4Fvb
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Fri, 27 July 2018, 04:59:24
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Thu, 26 July 2018, 10:32:48
    Quote from: Norz on Thu, 26 July 2018, 04:58:11
    I know you guys are too much of keyboards connoisseurs for this brand (  ;D ) but i'm looking for the new Corsair K70 Mk. 2 SE with European QWERTZ layout, and I can't seem to find it anywhere. Am I just bad at using the intertubes or you really can't find it anywhere in this version ?

    https://amzn.to/2Lt4Fvb

    This isn't the SE (aluminium) version.

    This is the older version, that you can indeed find everywhere.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Thu, 16 August 2018, 18:50:05
    Is there a known procedure to make DIY side printed legends on DS ABS key caps? I'd like to make my own side printing to help using alternate custom layers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SBJ on Sun, 19 August 2018, 16:05:38
    Is it possible to clip the stabs once the board's been assembled? (switches soldered with plate)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 19 August 2018, 16:33:53
    Quote from: StickyBlueJuice on Sun, 19 August 2018, 16:05:38
    Is it possible to clip the stabs once the board's been assembled? (switches soldered with plate)

    You'll need to desolder a few switches.
    Once you do you'll have enough room to pop the stabilizer wire out of the stabilizer and remove the bit you need to clip.
    Reassembly is the reverse.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SBJ on Sun, 19 August 2018, 16:37:10
    Quote from: MajorKoos on Sun, 19 August 2018, 16:33:53
    Quote from: StickyBlueJuice on Sun, 19 August 2018, 16:05:38
    Is it possible to clip the stabs once the board's been assembled? (switches soldered with plate)

    You'll need to desolder a few switches.
    Once you do you'll have enough room to pop the stabilizer wire out of the stabilizer and remove the bit you need to clip.
    Reassembly is the reverse.
    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Norz on Fri, 24 August 2018, 05:35:58
    Alright guys, I need help with a new keyboard. I simply can't find what I'm looking for and I need you to save me from ending up buying a Corsair or something. This is basically what I want:

        - It must ship to Switzerland
        - Full size
        - ISO QWERTZ
        - MX switches (or something super similar)
        - Wood or aluminium case
        - PBT keycaps
        - NO need for crazy showlight
        - I like design. Can be super classy wood design or badass "gaming" design, but I like when the keyboard stands out in a way or another.

    Thanks a bunch in advance !
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Vorlonesque on Sat, 25 August 2018, 18:19:55
    I was curious if anyone with a Leopold FC980M or KUL ES-87 could tell me how big/deep the bottom/front bezel below the spacebar/lower row is (inches or centimeters are fine...just trying to get an idea of the measurements).  I like having a little space between my wrist rest (a 3m gel wrest) and my keyboard as you can see by the rubber spacers between my Ducky Year of the Tiger keyboard and my wrist rest in the pic below:

    (https://i.imgur.com/9CLVCcH.jpg)

    I've been toying around with getting the FC980M or ES-87 so I could eschew the need for rubber spacers and was curious how deep their bezels were to determine if that would work.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FenixtheCorgi on Wed, 05 September 2018, 07:38:03
    This may be out of place but is it a rare occurrence to find a Chicony KB-5161 with SMK Second generation clicky switches? I just noticed that there aren't any instances of it very many places on the internet. Nice switches, btw.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 05 September 2018, 09:57:03
    Quote from: FenixtheCorgi on Wed, 05 September 2018, 07:38:03
    This may be out of place but is it a rare occurrence to find a Chicony KB-5161 with SMK Second generation clicky switches? I just noticed that there aren't any instances of it very many places on the internet. Nice switches, btw.

    Not rare at all, in fact I'd say that is the most common switch to find in a 5161. Mitsumi switches are much rarer and Blue Alps are the rarest of all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sridhar on Fri, 07 September 2018, 01:08:42
    Are there any readymade TKL keyboards having Gateron Clear switches that we can buy besides Glorious GMMK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 07 September 2018, 11:32:06
    Quote from: sridhar on Fri, 07 September 2018, 01:08:42
    Are there any readymade TKL keyboards having Gateron Clear switches that we can buy besides Glorious GMMK?

    I don't know if Varmilo still offers boards with them but they used to. I'd sell you mine but about half the switches have died already.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 10 September 2018, 10:03:25
    Was the Leopold FC660C discontinued, or something? It's really hard to find, and expensive where I do find it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hemanse on Mon, 24 September 2018, 03:46:59
    Is it possible to buy a standalone case for a VA68M? I would love to build one myself and i can get the pcb and plate, but i cant seem to find a place to get a case on its own. Anyone know if thats possible or is the only way to find someone with a used case they dont need anymore?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sheeploli3 on Fri, 28 September 2018, 16:40:26
    i kinda broke my spacebar for my cm storm quickfire xt, you guys know where to buy/get one? thankyou
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kolec94 on Tue, 02 October 2018, 10:39:10
    I have a at101w and I need replacement pads/feet for the keyboard.  the rubber ones not the flippy ones
    Where would I but one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 02 October 2018, 16:13:09
    What type of switches should I be using with a CF plate - tactile or linear?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ander on Wed, 03 October 2018, 03:01:24
    Quote from: Norz on Fri, 24 August 2018, 05:35:58
    Alright guys, I need help with a new keyboard. I simply can't find what I'm looking for and I need you to save me from ending up buying a Corsair or something. This is basically what I want:

        - It must ship to Switzerland
        - Full size
        - ISO QWERTZ...

    You may want to run this by the good guys at Deskthority (http://www.deskthority.net), which is based in Europe. Geekhack's based in the US, so we're not nearly as familiar with the things you need. Good luck, though!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ander on Wed, 03 October 2018, 03:03:32
    Quote from: kolec94 on Tue, 02 October 2018, 10:39:10
    I have a at101w and I need replacement pads/feet for the keyboard.  the rubber ones not the flippy ones
    Where would I but one?

    If you need original feet, you'll probably have to buy the cheapest "parts" AT101W you can find on eBay, and cannibalize it.

    Otherwise, I'd just get some generic stick-on feet at a dollar store... Who's going to see them, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 04 October 2018, 10:13:14
    Quote from: ander on Wed, 03 October 2018, 03:01:24
    Quote from: Norz on Fri, 24 August 2018, 05:35:58
    Alright guys, I need help with a new keyboard. I simply can't find what I'm looking for and I need you to save me from ending up buying a Corsair or something. This is basically what I want:

        - It must ship to Switzerland
        - Full size
        - ISO QWERTZ...

    You may want to run this by the good guys at Deskthority (http://www.deskthority.net), which is based in Europe. Geekhack's based in the US, so we're not nearly as familiar with the things you need. Good luck, though!

    I still don't understand this sentiment. There are plenty of US users on DT and vice versa.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bantermage on Thu, 04 October 2018, 20:28:19
    Q: Are there larger layout keyboards available? If so does anyone know a company providing one? Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Signature on Fri, 05 October 2018, 18:48:35
    Quote from: bantermage on Thu, 04 October 2018, 20:28:19
    Q: Are there larger layout keyboards available? If so does anyone know a company providing one? Thank you!
    Do you mean large as in bigger than 100%? It can be hard to find new produced keyboards from a manufacturer. The best chances is to join a GB like this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94495.0 or to look at Ebay and try to convert an old keyboard with a USB active converter :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 05 October 2018, 19:26:00
    Quote from: bantermage on Thu, 04 October 2018, 20:28:19

    Q: Are there larger layout keyboards available?


    Model F 122-key terminal for the WIN !

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48786.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48786.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PierceSutton on Thu, 11 October 2018, 13:02:03
    So I'm looking to buy a IBM Model M ( not a unicomp ) but there are quite a few variants out there. What variant do think is the best Model M. Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: panjakrejn on Mon, 22 October 2018, 16:27:01
    New to all this, trying to figure out what kind of switches I like before buying my next keyboard. I like the idea of avoiding hysteresis so that I can rapid fire in games, and I like the idea of a clicky sound aesthetically.

    Do switches with clicky sounds always come with hysteresis, or can you get clicky switches with no hysteresis?

    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PierceSutton on Mon, 22 October 2018, 23:36:48
    I was continuing took look around for keyboards, but I decided having a Model M would be nice but I could also use a keyboard to take to school with me. So I'm now pondering the thought of buying a 60% keyboard, the only problem is I don't know where to find them. If someone could tell me where most people buy there 60% keyboards that would be great. Thanks ahead of time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 23 October 2018, 08:13:32
    Quote from: PierceSutton on Mon, 22 October 2018, 23:36:48
    I was continuing took look around for keyboards, but I decided having a Model M would be nice but I could also use a keyboard to take to school with me. So I'm now pondering the thought of buying a 60% keyboard, the only problem is I don't know where to find them. If someone could tell me where most people buy there 60% keyboards that would be great. Thanks ahead of time.

    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=28 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=28)

    is a good place to start.  They also have a lot of the parts if you want to build a 60%.

    I ended up getting a https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3546 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3546)
    for a travel/beater board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ramencup on Fri, 02 November 2018, 12:18:47
    How are MX Whites? They supposedly have grease pre-applied to the click jacket to suppress the noise a little.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Smack2k on Sat, 03 November 2018, 10:25:38
    I have a Packard Bell (looks to be mechanical keyboard that has arrows on the back for XT or AT.  The arrows point left or right depending on which you want.  In between the arrors is what looks like a button, but if you push it in, it just goes into the hole and does nothing.  I took the keyboard apart and there is nothing underneath where the button would push into.The keyboards circuit board is about 3/4 inch past the end of the hole but there is nothing there to be depressed, and the small push button had nothing behind it anyway, its just a round 1/8 inch think plastic circle you can push all the way into the hole....

    Is something missing on the back of the keyboard?  Not sure how to switch fro XT to AT or what is supposed to be there

    The keyboard is from an old Packard Bell PB500 PC Clone
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Wed, 07 November 2018, 09:58:59
    Does anyone know of any petscii sets floating around? I found some old threads a while back from an interested party, but I didn't see any follow through.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: imadeanaccounttoseepics on Sat, 10 November 2018, 05:54:31
    What's a good budget friendly mechanical keyboard with RGB lighting? Doesn't have to be MX switches, but something that feels like browns is something i'm looking for. Was looking at stuff on AliExpress but all i could find was "blue" switches around the $50 USD price point.

    One keyboard that caught my eye was the AUKEY KM-G6. 104 key, RGB, Outemu Blue switches for around $50 CAD. If only they had a TKL variant with Outemo Browns switches (if this even exists).. Seems like theres a TKL variant but it's not available on Amazon Canada.

    I've already used cherry mx blacks (too heavy) and currently using cherry mx reds (feels ok but kinda squishy).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Bucake on Thu, 15 November 2018, 01:03:54
    Are there any known/trusted EU-based "fixup-service" providers around on geekhack / deskthority?
    In this case I mean soldering and replacing (or cleaning) switches.

    I have a KBT Pure Pro (plate-mounted cherry MX switches) over which I stupidly poured a glass of lemonade.
    The keyboard still works, but a bunch of the switches are left unusable(sticky), so they will need to be replaced/cleaned for the keyboard to be usable again.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 November 2018, 19:57:29
    Quote from: Bucake on Thu, 15 November 2018, 01:03:54
    Are there any known/trusted EU-based "fixup-service" providers around on geekhack / deskthority?
    In this case I mean soldering and replacing (or cleaning) switches.

    I have a KBT Pure Pro (plate-mounted cherry MX switches) over which I stupidly poured a glass of lemonade.
    The keyboard still works, but a bunch of the switches are left unusable(sticky), so they will need to be replaced/cleaned for the keyboard to be usable again.

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0

    A bit out of date, but might give you somewhere to start.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Tue, 27 November 2018, 11:31:00
    should skcl green alps be lubed with krytox? is there some reason that alps are usually dry lubed instead? some of the green alps i recieved are scratchy and i want to make them all consistent.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Kilgarah on Tue, 27 November 2018, 11:38:38
    Quote from: frosty on Tue, 27 November 2018, 11:31:00
    should skcl green alps be lubed with krytox? is there some reason that alps are usually dry lubed instead? some of the green alps i recieved are scratchy and i want to make them all consistent.
    Alps are notorious for getting dust and dirt in them really easily. A lube or oil that isn't dry tends to catch this dirt and make switches feel a lot worse. Dry lube can mitigate the risk of gritty switches.

    Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sun, 02 December 2018, 21:41:32
    is RO-59 considered dry lube? are there any better options for dry lubing skcl greens?
    Title: Keyboards
    Post by: CrankyAI on Mon, 03 December 2018, 03:45:21
    Moved to separate thread.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 03 December 2018, 23:28:00
    Quote from: frosty on Sun, 02 December 2018, 21:41:32
    is RO-59 considered dry lube? are there any better options for dry lubing skcl greens?
    Yeah, it's a dry lube.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nmur on Tue, 11 December 2018, 00:39:13
    i've got a 60% with a shift and enter key with stabilisers with way too much lube, so much that it gets stuck at the bottom out. is there a way i can clean this up without desoldering?

    edit: added pic... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181211/2383dcea329922be4c5e4be0fb4ce6a2.jpg)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: no, the other guy on Fri, 14 December 2018, 04:27:01
    Although modern keyboards have a "Return" and an "Enter" key that basically do the same thing, I wonder if there was a time when they sent different keycodes. There must be a reason why they have different labels. Can anyone enlighten me?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 14 December 2018, 06:50:01
    Quote from: no, the other guy on Fri, 14 December 2018, 04:27:01
    Although modern keyboards have a "Return" and an "Enter" key that basically do the same thing, I wonder if there was a time when they sent different keycodes. There must be a reason why they have different labels. Can anyone enlighten me?

    In the transition from typewriters, there were sometimes different keys for the functions of "carriage return" and "line feed"
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: no, the other guy on Fri, 14 December 2018, 07:01:42
    Thank you, that was too obvious. Oops.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 14 December 2018, 08:28:32
    Not really. And I did not explain "Enter" in the sense of "enter data" which is sometimes done with the Tab key or in other ways. I have to use one (old) program at work that requires Tab to enter data and the actual Enter key will not do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: no, the other guy on Fri, 14 December 2018, 08:31:02
    Does it differ between Enter and Return?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Fri, 14 December 2018, 09:00:17
    With word processing software coming up, CR (carriage return) and LF (line feed) were combined in one key called "return". On the other hand, this very key was used in the OS to confirm and execute commands, and in this function was called "enter". The naming difference took place very early (early 80ies?) and reflects whether it wanted to emphasize the word processing function or the OS function of the keyboard. Modern PCs have mostly "enter", as PCs main task shifted from word processing to more generic usage.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ander on Fri, 14 December 2018, 20:45:21
    Is there some way in which the distinction between "Enter" and "Return" is related to the application of way too much lube?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: frosty on Sat, 15 December 2018, 01:13:59
    Alps; when using an ultrasonic cleaner, can we throw in the bottom housing along with the switchplate? or will that ruin the switch?

    if we can't, what's the best way to remove the switchplate? many of my skcl greens have left over solder on them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 16 December 2018, 19:54:09
    Quote from: no, the other guy on Fri, 14 December 2018, 04:27:01
    Although modern keyboards have a "Return" and an "Enter" key that basically do the same thing, I wonder if there was a time when they sent different keycodes. There must be a reason why they have different labels. Can anyone enlighten me?

    I've used systems/terminals in the past where the computer would present a screenful of information with some user-editable fields.  The user would enter their information, usually pressing Tab between each field.  Then finish by pressing Enter to submit the entire form (all field values) to the computer.

    Return was used to place line breaks in multi-line fields.  Or, more typically, when entering operating system commands.

    In HP terms, the terminal would be set to "page mode" and transmit a page of information at a time, rather than character by character, or field by field.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mikey G on Wed, 19 December 2018, 18:39:37
    Hey, I am very new into mechanical keyboards and quite like the look of the the GMMK. I am just wondering is this a good keyboard and is it good for beginners? Maybe some other keyboard recommendations for a beginner in the sub £50-£150 range... preferable under £100? Thank You
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 19 December 2018, 18:52:10
    Quote from: Mikey G on Wed, 19 December 2018, 18:39:37
    Hey, I am very new into mechanical keyboards and quite like the look of the the GMMK. I am just wondering is this a good keyboard and is it good for beginners? Maybe some other keyboard recommendations for a beginner in the sub £50-£150 range... preferable under £100? Thank You

    *highlights text so that it's legible*

    I would steer clear of Magicforce 68 if you want a keyboard that plays well with multiple bios eras (early 2000's, etc.). I've read good things about CM Storm QuickFire Rapid. Need more input.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 19 December 2018, 19:17:54
    The problem as a beginner is, you don't know exactly what you want, what you are looking for, what's available, etc. I bought a Filco Majestouch 2 as my first serious mechanical keyboard, and it's still doing it's job, never let me down. Could I've decided better? Probably, as, later on, you want to change the mapping, change switches, etc, and you can't do that with products off the shelf. Could I've decided worse, double yes. So I do not regret it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 19 December 2018, 19:51:27
    Quote from: Mikey G on Wed, 19 December 2018, 18:39:37
    Hey, I am very new into mechanical keyboards and quite like the look of the the GMMK. I am just wondering is this a good keyboard and is it good for beginners? Maybe some other keyboard recommendations for a beginner in the sub £50-£150 range... preferable under £100? Thank You

    Welcome to Geekhack!

    For a first keyboard, you'd want something that you can easily change keycaps i.e. a standard layout.  As you quoted prices in GBP I'd guess you'll be looking for an ISO layout keyboard, which will limit your choice of replacement keycaps considerably.  If you can adjust to an ANSI layout, the choice of replacement keycaps will expand considerably.

    You'll probably end up with a number of different keyboards, different layouts, different sizes, different materials eventually anyway, so just enjoy the journey :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mikey G on Thu, 20 December 2018, 13:04:06
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 19 December 2018, 19:51:27
    Quote from: Mikey G on Wed, 19 December 2018, 18:39:37
    Hey, I am very new into mechanical keyboards and quite like the look of the the GMMK. I am just wondering is this a good keyboard and is it good for beginners? Maybe some other keyboard recommendations for a beginner in the sub £50-£150 range... preferable under £100? Thank You

    Welcome to Geekhack!

    For a first keyboard, you'd want something that you can easily change keycaps i.e. a standard layout.  As you quoted prices in GBP I'd guess you'll be looking for an ISO layout keyboard, which will limit your choice of replacement keycaps considerably.  If you can adjust to an ANSI layout, the choice of replacement keycaps will expand considerably.

    You'll probably end up with a number of different keyboards, different layouts, different sizes, different materials eventually anyway, so just enjoy the journey :)

    Hi Rowdy, thanks for you help and reply. I am currently on ANSI and clearly have no reason to change layouts back to ISO... thanks for telling me, I did have a 1 or 2 ISO layout keyboards on my short list... it is good to know to steer clear for a while until I know/have learnt more. :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hs429q on Thu, 20 December 2018, 14:29:37
    Where can I buy a custom Carbon Fiber Plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Mon, 24 December 2018, 08:41:18
    Has anyone yet to make a solution for Topre to MX Sliders for the spacebar? I've had a few sets of KBDFans MX Sliders and I know they don't have MX spacebar stabilizers. I know Novatouch and Realforce RGB sliders accommodate, but those are pretty rare/pricey. Seems like somebody must have created a 3d print mold for MX stabilizer sliders or something by now.

    UPDATE: Hoping this works out: https://www.shapeways.com/product/VAPD43WYK/topre-to-mx-stabilizer-plunger-right
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gabetjh on Wed, 02 January 2019, 02:07:58
    why cant i post on some communities like clack happens?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 02 January 2019, 13:13:15
    Quote from: gabetjh on Wed, 02 January 2019, 02:07:58
    why cant i post on some communities like clack happens?

    The Clack Happens thread is currently locked, so regular users cannot create new posts. Typically, when a thread is locked, only mods/admins (and the OP of that thread? not 100% sure) will be able to post.

    There are also some subforums that have restrictions on who can create new threads. Some artisan and vendor subforums are set up so that only the vendor can create new threads, to reduce clutter in the subforum. Several sections in the marketplace are also set up such that only members who have been on GH for at least two months and have a postcount of 25 or higher can create new threads, matching our restrictions on who can sell items on geekhack.

    Does that answer your question completely?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gabetjh on Wed, 02 January 2019, 19:09:54
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 02 January 2019, 13:13:15
    Quote from: gabetjh on Wed, 02 January 2019, 02:07:58
    why cant i post on some communities like clack happens?

    The Clack Happens thread is currently locked, so regular users cannot create new posts. Typically, when a thread is locked, only mods/admins (and the OP of that thread? not 100% sure) will be able to post.

    There are also some subforums that have restrictions on who can create new threads. Some artisan and vendor subforums are set up so that only the vendor can create new threads, to reduce clutter in the subforum. Several sections in the marketplace are also set up such that only members who have been on GH for at least two months and have a postcount of 25 or higher can create new threads, matching our restrictions on who can sell items on geekhack.

    Does that answer your question completely?
    yes it did! thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sobr on Sun, 06 January 2019, 18:21:40
    Hey all - I've been using a Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 cherry blue for 5 years and just recently noticed that the action on the keys has changed - not like they're sticking but almost sticking - like they're stiff - or require more effort on each keypress. (apologies for not knowing the right lingo)

    I think this has probably been a slow creep of performance degradation and it only became pronounced enough for me to notice it recently.

    I am the worst about any type of maintenance or cleaning - keyboard is not a pretty sight. I don't even know if the keys come off on this model or not but I think not.

    ANYWAY my quick question is: Do I bother trying to get this serviced or do I just buy a new one and sell this one as-is on ebay?

    If service: I'm in the SF Bay Area - so where?

    I really love this keyboard and can't imagine I would get any other model but this same one as a replacement (unless there's someone here who's been a diehard Ninja lover who's since converted to something else even better, and can convince me). I am not a kb enthusiast just someone who needs to type fast all day long.

    Thanks all.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Mon, 07 January 2019, 05:45:46
    Remove the caps, and turn the keyboard upside down shaking all the debris out. Plus, use an old toothbrush to brush the debris out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: metomer on Mon, 14 January 2019, 15:52:06
    Hey guys I'm new here,

    got my first 40% coming in the post atm, it's a vortex core. I'm worried about the form factor of 40% but excited nonetheless.

    Does anyone know where I can get some keycaps for it? as I know its kinda an awkward set,

    thanks!
    Title: Simple question: Keycool 84S Firmware
    Post by: zunger on Thu, 17 January 2019, 00:00:45
    I just got my hands on a Keycool 84S, but its layout is very wrong to use with a Mac. Does anyone know what firmware it uses, and what incantation(s) are required to flash it? (If such exist...)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 21 January 2019, 01:53:31
    What's an OK Topre TMK/QMK programmable keyboard? Conversions, reprogramming, some soldering or switching of parts allowed.
    I'm looking at a Leopold FC600c with the TMK daughterboard, but the keyboard seems to be out of production, and I'd be stuck with Topre-compatible keycaps.

    Are any of the Plum keyboards TMK-compatible?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MFahim on Sat, 02 February 2019, 03:48:19
    Hi, I recently got my hands on a LZ-RV, but after I flashed a new layout using JigOn, a few keys have been acting up. They dont register the keypresses I set in JigOn, and instead give out different ones, Ive tried a few things but I havent been able to fix this yet. pls help.

    edit: fixed by redownloading jigon and reflashing  :-\
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: menuhin on Sat, 02 February 2019, 07:54:06
    Quote from: tofgerl on Mon, 21 January 2019, 01:53:31
    What's an OK Topre TMK/QMK programmable keyboard? Conversions, reprogramming, some soldering or switching of parts allowed.
    I'm looking at a Leopold FC600c with the TMK daughterboard, but the keyboard seems to be out of production, and I'd be stuck with Topre-compatible keycaps.

    Are any of the Plum keyboards TMK-compatible?

    What is "OK"?

    But I can only see that for Topre, it is only possible to use TMK via Hasu's drop-in controller or adapter, e.g. Hasu's HHKB Alternative Controller. It has been working really well for me.

    FC660c is very solid with a metal plate, and if you're in the Topre game, you have to deal with the only-Topre caps situation, but KBDfans seems to have more and more option for Topre boards.

    Plum keyboards AFAIR is not TMK/QMK compatible unless someone recently has ported it to support them on QMK, which will be great. Plum has a much softer less tactile key feel than Topre, but some people are into it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 02 February 2019, 11:34:37
    Quote from: menuhin on Sat, 02 February 2019, 07:54:06
    What is "OK"?
    Good question. I currently use a Realforce RGB at work, but I won't be using the one at home as much. I use Hasu's USB-USB adapter for that, which is fine, but obviously I would prefer for the keyboard itself to run the software instead of having a separate adapter that I have to carry around and debug if anything goes wrong.

    I just ordered a Plum 87 from the Massdrop this week, so that's plan A.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 13 February 2019, 20:15:33
    It's been so long I can't remember - how easy is it to replace a switch on an original Ducky Shine?

    The numpad 0 if that makes any difference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 13 February 2019, 20:52:11
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 13 February 2019, 20:15:33
    It's been so long I can't remember - how easy is it to replace a switch on an original Ducky Shine?

    The numpad 0 if that makes any difference.
    IIRC you just have to desolder the led then the switch, pop them out, then solder in the replacements.

    I don't think the stabilizer will be in the way.

    The early boards were much simpler than some of the newer models.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Thu, 14 February 2019, 19:56:46
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 13 February 2019, 20:52:11
    Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 13 February 2019, 20:15:33
    It's been so long I can't remember - how easy is it to replace a switch on an original Ducky Shine?

    The numpad 0 if that makes any difference.
    IIRC you just have to desolder the led then the switch, pop them out, then solder in the replacements.

    I don't think the stabilizer will be in the way.

    The early boards were much simpler than some of the newer models.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

    That sounds promising, thanks.  Especially about the stabilisers, I'd forgotten about those, what with using TKL keyboards mostly these days.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _GMK_ on Sun, 17 February 2019, 05:39:11
    Is this pad printed or doubleshot? What puts me off is the fact that it has scoops, and nipples.

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: nickheller on Sun, 17 February 2019, 11:08:24
    Quote from: _GMK_ on Sun, 17 February 2019, 05:39:11
    Is this pad printed or doubleshot? What puts me off is the fact that it has scoops, and nipples.

    (Attachment Link)
    Looks like lasered not pad printed or doubleshot.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _GMK_ on Sun, 17 February 2019, 13:08:32
    Quote from: nickheller on Sun, 17 February 2019, 11:08:24
    Quote from: _GMK_ on Sun, 17 February 2019, 05:39:11
    Is this pad printed or doubleshot? What puts me off is the fact that it has scoops, and nipples.

    (Attachment Link)
    Looks like lasered not pad printed or doubleshot.

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: abattlescar on Tue, 19 February 2019, 20:42:49
    How can I change the layout of my keyboard without needing to change everything in qmk?  I just bought a zlant and like the layout except for 2 or 3 keys, so I don't want to mess around with qmk too much.  If anyone has a link to the JSON for the zlant's entirely default layout with the 3 layers that would help me as well.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _GMK_ on Sat, 23 February 2019, 15:33:47
    About OG cherry dyesub keycaps, are those abs or Pbt? For example in a g81-3000 SAD keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 23 February 2019, 15:34:50
    Quote from: _GMK_ on Sat, 23 February 2019, 15:33:47
    About OG cherry dyesub keycaps, are those abs or Pbt? For example in a g81-3000 SAD keyboard.

    dyesub = pbt
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Sun, 24 February 2019, 14:34:13
    Who is offering basic soldering services now? I have a PCB, case, switches, etc. that have been sitting on my desk forever and I haven't had time to put them together; I just want to pay someone trustworthy to do it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 24 February 2019, 14:37:06
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 24 February 2019, 14:34:13
    Who is offering basic soldering services now? I have a PCB, case, switches, etc. that have been sitting on my desk forever and I haven't had time to put them together; I just want to pay someone trustworthy to do it.

    I think lightningXI might be still taking on projects. Doesn't hurt to ask regardless
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 24 February 2019, 19:55:13
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 24 February 2019, 14:34:13
    Who is offering basic soldering services now? I have a PCB, case, switches, etc. that have been sitting on my desk forever and I haven't had time to put them together; I just want to pay someone trustworthy to do it.

    This thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0) is supposed to list things like that, but I suspect some sections might be out of date.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 02 March 2019, 02:04:17
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 24 February 2019, 14:37:06
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Sun, 24 February 2019, 14:34:13
    Who is offering basic soldering services now? I have a PCB, case, switches, etc. that have been sitting on my desk forever and I haven't had time to put them together; I just want to pay someone trustworthy to do it.

    I think lightningXI might be still taking on projects. Doesn't hurt to ask regardless
    Feel free to PM, bcredbottle. You can find me on Reddit, DT, and on the chat channels as well (Discord).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 04 March 2019, 06:58:31
    Foreskin, or no foreskin?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TobyLaroned on Fri, 08 March 2019, 07:15:22
    Anyone know how hard it is/have a guide to remove outemu hotswap sockets?

    Planning to get a cheapo $15 used local brand board (digital alliance meca sport) with outemu hotswap sockets in em but I realized that outemu sockets don't fit other switches natively, so was planning to just remove em so I can solder in some box royals or something.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hawkingeta on Mon, 11 March 2019, 07:50:30
    Hello, I am new here and thinking of building my very first DIY mechanical keyboard.

    For my first build I want to go rather cheap and have done a lot of research, but I am still left wandering what PCB I should choose. My requirements are that I have a standard ANSI layout, as cheap as possible, NO RGB or backlight, QMK compatibility to do multi layer programming.
    I have found the dz60 at KBDfans for $47 including Gateron Brown switches (MX Cherry are too expansive at the moment). Is this as cheap as it gets? The dz60 does have some backlighting and RBG stuff which I don't need.

    What PCB would you recommend, and where should I get it?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 4sStylZ on Wed, 13 March 2019, 15:34:01
    Hi, Where can I buy costar stabs shipping to French ad good price.

    Basically I see offer for ONE stab at 5$… I need like… 15/20 stabs n…n
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 4sStylZ on Fri, 15 March 2019, 07:54:00
    Another one,

    What is the switch on the right ?
    (https://mykeyboard.eu/media/cache/f8/c1/f8c1138fc3620d12ba1474a1d138f50f.jpg)

    It’s like a scissor switch MX-compatible ?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: reptilianbrain on Wed, 27 March 2019, 14:40:34
    What are the options for a split keyboard with the Mac-type layout of the left side?

    So that the right edge of the ALT (CMD) would align (or be very close) to the right edge of the letter x button?

    https://cdn1.tekrevue.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/mac-keyboard-command-control-960x540.jpg


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Artonkn on Sun, 21 April 2019, 08:54:49
    What are my current options for a 60% ISO with decent tactile like MX Clears or clicky switches.

    Had a POK3R MX Clears but it'd died when rum was spilt on it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamgk on Sun, 21 April 2019, 10:23:34
    I have a Varmilo VA87M and would like to change up its cable - do you have suggestions for EU-shipping stores that would carry compatible mini USB cables? Realistically I'm only concerned whether the cable is thin enough to fit through the keyboard's gap at its edge or whether it's a complete non-issue...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MafiaButter on Mon, 20 May 2019, 21:54:34
    Would anyone happen to know what switches come under the alphas of the Canon AP500 (Not the 500-II)? I know the AP400 houses SKFF alps and the AP500-II houses SKCP, so I'm assuming the standard AP500 is one of those two? (Then again, I'm not familiar with the timeline of those Canon typewriters; numerically, the damned things might not even be chronological)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ooitsaly on Wed, 22 May 2019, 16:38:36
    I'm a beginner, kind of. I typically only buy or build a keyboard when mine is on it's way out,  and it's about that time again....I'm looking for a cyan/teal/turquoise case for full size or TKL. Similar to the MiTo Pulse. I would be using it for school as well as games, etc,  and I do prefer to use the numpad for numbers. I just can't seem to find anything for sale at the moment. As reddit soooo kindly pointed out, I can of course hit request on the Pulse keyboard but it's super unlikely Massdrop will do another run anytime soon. So here I am...I can't seem to find anything on the sites I know to check, and I'm kind of overwhelmed by everything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: tobiasvl on Wed, 29 May 2019, 14:12:00
    Hey! So the Zeal sale is over soon, and I'm wondering what I should get.

    I've never owned any Zeal switches, but I'm using MX Clear now and I love the tactility, weight and sharp bump. They're pretty much perfect for me – except that they're a little scratchy.

    I've tried a friend's board with 67g Zealios v1 (or quite possibly Stealios, this was around that time), and I thought they felt pretty smooth and great. I'm not sure how much that counts when v2 seem pretty different though.

    I'm also not sure if I should get 67g, or go up to 78g. When I tried the 67g they felt pretty similar to the MX Clears, but Zeal's website describes 78g as a "lighter Clear". Weight isn't everything though – I've read (I think it was here on GeekHack?) that the 78g v2 feels more like Holy Panda, and I'm hoping for something with a sharper bump than that.
    Any help/insight/experience would be appreciated! I should've gotten a switch tester, but then the sale happened…
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: undinus on Sun, 09 June 2019, 08:42:37
    Hey, I've been trying to figure out a nice 75% keyboard (I'm aware of KB75, can't afford it since I'd need the fully built one)

    So far I've narrowed down my options to Vortex Race 3 and MK MK84
    Can anyone tell me which one is objectively better, I don't care about the 1.5u ESC on Race 3 or the font on MK84 so those are not a problem.

    Thanks  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cspirou on Mon, 10 June 2019, 08:38:25
    When it comes to backlight keyboards, is it only worth getting shine-though keycaps? Are the LEDs wasted if you just use typical keycaps?

    Somewhat related, when it comes to premium keycaps I don't see a lot of shine-through sets. Are there people working on some unique shine-through keycap sets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Skittleson on Mon, 10 June 2019, 14:18:59
    Quote from: MafiaButter on Mon, 20 May 2019, 21:54:34
    Would anyone happen to know what switches come under the alphas of the Canon AP500 (Not the 500-II)? I know the AP400 houses SKFF alps and the AP500-II houses SKCP, so I'm assuming the standard AP500 is one of those two? (Then again, I'm not familiar with the timeline of those Canon typewriters; numerically, the damned things might not even be chronological)

    I've disassembled two AP-500s and both had SKFF switches. Pictures (https://imgur.com/a/vSxstGr)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 14 June 2019, 05:32:58
    Quote from: cspirou on Mon, 10 June 2019, 08:38:25
    When it comes to backlight keyboards, is it only worth getting shine-though keycaps? Are the LEDs wasted if you just use typical keycaps?

    Somewhat related, when it comes to premium keycaps I don't see a lot of shine-through sets. Are there people working on some unique shine-through keycap sets?

    You can get the benefit of underglow (light shining from under the keycaps).

    These days "underglow" usually refers to LEDs around or under the keyboard case.

    However: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83703.0

    Look at the 5th and 6th pictures in the first post.  That's the kind of effect you could end up with (depending on keyboard, LEDs and keycaps).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 16 June 2019, 21:13:53
    sooooo who's the best NA vendor if I wanna run a key set eyes emoji
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 June 2019, 05:40:14
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 16 June 2019, 21:13:53
    sooooo who's the best NA vendor if I wanna run a key set eyes emoji

    They're all kinda sketchy and most seem to be constantly covered up with multiple buys going on in various states of success. :eek:

    There was that one that posted a thread the other day claiming to be starting up in a couple months once their website is setup and their trademarks or names or whatever are patented, they got >$50K plus additional funding from their professor. They used a lot of fancy sounding words to. They deleted their GH post but one is still up on reddit.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 17 June 2019, 08:33:49
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 June 2019, 05:40:14
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 16 June 2019, 21:13:53
    sooooo who's the best NA vendor if I wanna run a key set eyes emoji

    They're all kinda sketchy and most seem to be constantly covered up with multiple buys going on in various states of success. :eek:

    There was that one that posted a thread the other day claiming to be starting up in a couple months once their website is setup and their trademarks or names or whatever are patented, they got >$50K plus additional funding from their professor. They used a lot of fancy sounding words to. They deleted their GH post but one is still up on reddit.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk


    what's the consensus on MD now that they own us do we like em or not
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sintpinty on Mon, 17 June 2019, 09:12:39
    Can someone tell me a detailed explanation of how Healios switches feel like?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Venaros on Tue, 18 June 2019, 08:07:42
    Quote from: Sintpinty on Mon, 17 June 2019, 09:12:39
    Can someone tell me a detailed explanation of how Healios switches feel like?

    They're a pretty smooth linear, about as smooth as tealios, the bottom out is mushy due to the silencing pads, but not as much as a silent cherry red. The spring weight is about the same as a cherry red, but it's slightly lighter at the beginning of the press, and slightly heavier at the end.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 18 June 2019, 11:52:56
    Quote from: Venaros on Tue, 18 June 2019, 08:07:42
    Quote from: Sintpinty on Mon, 17 June 2019, 09:12:39
    Can someone tell me a detailed explanation of how Healios switches feel like?

    They're a pretty smooth linear, about as smooth as tealios, the bottom out is mushy due to the silencing pads, but not as much as a silent cherry red. The spring weight is about the same as a cherry red, but it's slightly lighter at the beginning of the press, and slightly heavier at the end.

    Thank you
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Tue, 25 June 2019, 22:14:20
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 17 June 2019, 08:33:49
    Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 17 June 2019, 05:40:14
    Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 16 June 2019, 21:13:53
    sooooo who's the best NA vendor if I wanna run a key set eyes emoji

    They're all kinda sketchy and most seem to be constantly covered up with multiple buys going on in various states of success. :eek:

    There was that one that posted a thread the other day claiming to be starting up in a couple months once their website is setup and their trademarks or names or whatever are patented, they got >$50K plus additional funding from their professor. They used a lot of fancy sounding words to. They deleted their GH post but one is still up on reddit.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk


    what's the consensus on MD now that they own us do we like em or not

    I've never had much of a problem with them.

    Some people complain about shipping time, but it takes around 3 weeks for stuff to arrive down here anyway, so an extra day either way doesn't make much difference.

    My only gripe is that they don't ship to PO boxes.  I'm likely to move house again soon, but I don't know when, so I haven't been able to order anything from them for at least 6 months.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rondg on Mon, 01 July 2019, 19:53:36
    I haven't got the chance of using a gasket mount keyboard or any keyboard with a lot of flex and I would like to know if there is a noticeable difference in terms of feel and sound? I mainly use tactile switches but sometimes (very rare) I also switch to linear.

    Will a gasket mount/burger mount pcb mounted keyboard an overkill?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hawkingeta on Fri, 05 July 2019, 16:19:24
    I have a very simple question, yet I don't know if the answer is that easy.
    I am just in the middle of building my first mechanical keyboard and it is a 75% xd84. My problem is that I cannot decide on the layout of my bottom row.

    Should I go with
    1.25u(CTRL) 1.25u(SUPER) 1.25u(ALT) 6.25u(SPACE) 1u(ALT) 1u(FN/SUPER) 1u(CTRL) 1u(Left) 1u(DOWN) 1u(Right) OR
    1.25u(CTRL) 1.25u(SUPER) 1.25u(ALT) 6.25u(SPACE) 1.5u(ALT)       1.5u(CTRL)           1u(Left) 1u(DOWN) 1u(Right)

    I do not really plan on using the right FN/SUPER at the moment and might like the bigger ALT and CTRL keys more, maybe. My planned FN key is CAPS. Is it hard to get used to the 1u keys? What seems to be your experiences and suggestions?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sun, 07 July 2019, 22:02:36
    Quote from: hawkingeta on Fri, 05 July 2019, 16:19:24
    I have a very simple question, yet I don't know if the answer is that easy.
    I am just in the middle of building my first mechanical keyboard and it is a 75% xd84. My problem is that I cannot decide on the layout of my bottom row.

    Should I go with
    1.25u(CTRL) 1.25u(SUPER) 1.25u(ALT) 6.25u(SPACE) 1u(ALT) 1u(FN/SUPER) 1u(CTRL) 1u(Left) 1u(DOWN) 1u(Right) OR
    1.25u(CTRL) 1.25u(SUPER) 1.25u(ALT) 6.25u(SPACE) 1.5u(ALT)       1.5u(CTRL)           1u(Left) 1u(DOWN) 1u(Right)

    I do not really plan on using the right FN/SUPER at the moment and might like the bigger ALT and CTRL keys more, maybe. My planned FN key is CAPS. Is it hard to get used to the 1u keys? What seems to be your experiences and suggestions?

    Thanks!

    Personally, I've never had an issue with the 1u keys in a similar configuration on laptop boards. For mech boards, I've never used something smaller than 1.25, although just by chance. I don't think the 1u keys would be anything of an obstacle long-term, but might take a couple of days to get used to, as with any new layout.

    If I'm unsure of what to do when I'm building a board, I often include the second option for a function key, even if I don't plan to use it. I find it useful to have function keys available on both sides of the board for some more exotic hotkey combinations that come up in some of the software I use (e.g. multiple modifiers plus a f-row key), or if I want to use the board one-handed briefly.

    Hope that helps!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hawkingeta on Mon, 08 July 2019, 06:32:10
    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 07 July 2019, 22:02:36
    Quote from: hawkingeta on Fri, 05 July 2019, 16:19:24
    I have a very simple question, yet I don't know if the answer is that easy.
    I am just in the middle of building my first mechanical keyboard and it is a 75% xd84. My problem is that I cannot decide on the layout of my bottom row.

    Should I go with
    1.25u(CTRL) 1.25u(SUPER) 1.25u(ALT) 6.25u(SPACE) 1u(ALT) 1u(FN/SUPER) 1u(CTRL) 1u(Left) 1u(DOWN) 1u(Right) OR
    1.25u(CTRL) 1.25u(SUPER) 1.25u(ALT) 6.25u(SPACE) 1.5u(ALT)       1.5u(CTRL)           1u(Left) 1u(DOWN) 1u(Right)

    I do not really plan on using the right FN/SUPER at the moment and might like the bigger ALT and CTRL keys more, maybe. My planned FN key is CAPS. Is it hard to get used to the 1u keys? What seems to be your experiences and suggestions?

    Thanks!

    Personally, I've never had an issue with the 1u keys in a similar configuration on laptop boards. For mech boards, I've never used something smaller than 1.25, although just by chance. I don't think the 1u keys would be anything of an obstacle long-term, but might take a couple of days to get used to, as with any new layout.

    If I'm unsure of what to do when I'm building a board, I often include the second option for a function key, even if I don't plan to use it. I find it useful to have function keys available on both sides of the board for some more exotic hotkey combinations that come up in some of the software I use (e.g. multiple modifiers plus a f-row key), or if I want to use the board one-handed briefly.

    Hope that helps!

    Thanks for the feedback. Maybe you are right. Couldn't hurt to have one extra key in case I need it in the future. If I find that I am not able to hit the proper keys down there, I can still desolder the one key and change to 1,5u 1,5u from the 3 1u keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 July 2019, 10:49:39
    Quote from: hawkingeta on Mon, 08 July 2019, 06:32:10
    Quote from: user 18 on Sun, 07 July 2019, 22:02:36
    Quote from: hawkingeta on Fri, 05 July 2019, 16:19:24
    I have a very simple question, yet I don't know if the answer is that easy.
    I am just in the middle of building my first mechanical keyboard and it is a 75% xd84. My problem is that I cannot decide on the layout of my bottom row.

    Should I go with
    1.25u(CTRL) 1.25u(SUPER) 1.25u(ALT) 6.25u(SPACE) 1u(ALT) 1u(FN/SUPER) 1u(CTRL) 1u(Left) 1u(DOWN) 1u(Right) OR
    1.25u(CTRL) 1.25u(SUPER) 1.25u(ALT) 6.25u(SPACE) 1.5u(ALT)       1.5u(CTRL)           1u(Left) 1u(DOWN) 1u(Right)

    I do not really plan on using the right FN/SUPER at the moment and might like the bigger ALT and CTRL keys more, maybe. My planned FN key is CAPS. Is it hard to get used to the 1u keys? What seems to be your experiences and suggestions?

    Thanks!

    Personally, I've never had an issue with the 1u keys in a similar configuration on laptop boards. For mech boards, I've never used something smaller than 1.25, although just by chance. I don't think the 1u keys would be anything of an obstacle long-term, but might take a couple of days to get used to, as with any new layout.

    If I'm unsure of what to do when I'm building a board, I often include the second option for a function key, even if I don't plan to use it. I find it useful to have function keys available on both sides of the board for some more exotic hotkey combinations that come up in some of the software I use (e.g. multiple modifiers plus a f-row key), or if I want to use the board one-handed briefly.

    Hope that helps!

    Thanks for the feedback. Maybe you are right. Couldn't hurt to have one extra key in case I need it in the future. If I find that I am not able to hit the proper keys down there, I can still desolder the one key and change to 1,5u 1,5u from the 3 1u keys.

    I'd agree with user 18 for functionality.  On a board that size, function keys can make a big difference for usability (depending on your use - if you never use F-row or alpha numpad, then a function key may not benefit you much since the 65% likely has the added keys you need).  At the same time, I have definitely foregone the function key in favor of aesthetics (I prefer the 1.5u look most times, since a bunch of 1u keys can look pretty cluttered). 

    Hard to really go wrong either way, and as you said you can always change it later.  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Legonut on Sat, 13 July 2019, 01:03:16
    Quote from: rondg on Mon, 01 July 2019, 19:53:36
    I haven't got the chance of using a gasket mount keyboard or any keyboard with a lot of flex and I would like to know if there is a noticeable difference in terms of feel and sound? I mainly use tactile switches but sometimes (very rare) I also switch to linear.

    Will a gasket mount/burger mount pcb mounted keyboard an overkill?

    I've tried two burger mount boards, and the feel isn't really affected. Unless you get super soft gaskets and bottom out for a really long time, you probably won't notice at all. The sound is affected, it deepens the bottom out sound and definitely reduces pinging. This still depends highly on the build of the board, switches, and keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cspirou on Sat, 13 July 2019, 13:49:42
    So I'm kinda curious about the planck layout. Is it really a serious keyboard people use or more of a novelty?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Legonut on Sat, 13 July 2019, 18:12:24
    Quote from: cspirou on Sat, 13 July 2019, 13:49:42
    So I'm kinda curious about the planck layout. Is it really a serious keyboard people use or more of a novelty?

    It's definitely not a novelty, there are plenty of people who write and code on it for 8+ hrs a day, every day. For the most part, once you've got the layers memorized it's pretty fast to use. Some people like it for the uniqueness, sure, but others like the minimalist aesthetic/size. Their marketing argues for not leaving the home row, which is a goal for some.
    I believe the Preonic (5x12) is a much more sensible layout, it's something you could put basically everything on just two layers, and for everyday typing you don't need to use the secondary layer too much.
    Smaller layouts like the Gherkin, definitely go past the point of ergonomics, and aren't quicker than a Planck.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Garfest on Tue, 16 July 2019, 14:49:40
    Hey,

    I have a GK64 and I was wondering if I could put the pcb from the GK64 into a Tofu Acrylic case?

    Thanks. 

    I'm a noob to mods and what not so any tips are well appreciated. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: GLaDOS on Fri, 26 July 2019, 15:16:31
    Hey all,

    Can anyone help me get an idea of the manufacture date of an Apple Extended Keyboard II? It has ALPS-branded dampened creams, the model number is listed as M3501, the copyright date on the sticker is 1989. It's an ISO board made in Ireland. It has the graphical legends on the modifier keys as opposed to the written ones (i.e. "option, command"). Can anyone point me to the manufacture date sticker or does no such thing exist?

    Many thanks.


    EDIT: Found a marking on the inside of the top part of the casing. 12/93 which would put this right at the end of the production run. Leaving this here in case anyone else has the same question.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddrfraser1 on Mon, 26 August 2019, 18:06:40
    What keyboard is this?[attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 26 August 2019, 18:21:35
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Mon, 26 August 2019, 18:06:40
    What keyboard is this?

    It's a steelseries Apex 350

    Sent from my SM-G970U1 using Tapatalk
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: packleadercho on Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:36:49
    Hi, I recently got my hands on a BOK.CP recently and I was hoping to get an acrylic plate cut for it; is there a way I can get a plate cut even if I don't have the plate files? I do have the board's brass plate with me. Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 31 August 2019, 03:46:39
    Quote from: packleadercho on Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:36:49
    Hi, I recently got my hands on a BOK.CP recently and I was hoping to get an acrylic plate cut for it; is there a way I can get a plate cut even if I don't have the plate files? I do have the board's brass plate with me. Thank you!
    If you can't reverse engineer the plate yourself then I suggest asking around for plate files.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: packleadercho on Sat, 31 August 2019, 08:56:57
    Quote from: LightningXI on Sat, 31 August 2019, 03:46:39
    Quote from: packleadercho on Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:36:49
    Hi, I recently got my hands on a BOK.CP recently and I was hoping to get an acrylic plate cut for it; is there a way I can get a plate cut even if I don't have the plate files? I do have the board's brass plate with me. Thank you!
    If you can't reverse engineer the plate yourself then I suggest asking around for plate files.

    Yeah that would be ideal but BOK as well as TX hasn't been responsive to my efforts to contact them so reverse engineering seems to be my only option. I'll try and browse a bit more to see if the plate files have ever been posted. Thanks for your input!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chellem on Sat, 07 September 2019, 07:45:54
    Can't decide between a Varmilo VA87M and a Ducky One 2, both TKL.
    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4911  and https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4284

    I want silent switches and some form of backlight which limited my options to these two keyboards. Is there anything better about the Varmilo keyboards? Is Ducky One 2 considered good quality? Never had a mechanical keyboard and plan on a $130 keyboard to last me many years.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Benitone on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:33:43
    Quote from: chellem on Sat, 07 September 2019, 07:45:54
    Can't decide between a Varmilo VA87M and a Ducky One 2, both TKL.
    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4911  and https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4284

    I want silent switches and some form of backlight which limited my options to these two keyboards. Is there anything better about the Varmilo keyboards? Is Ducky One 2 considered good quality? Never had a mechanical keyboard and plan on a $130 keyboard to last me many years.

    Get a gmmk hot swap keyboard. Adding the switches is just a Lego game. You'll spend 50 USD plus 30 - 60 USD for the switches. I can't recommend enough that product. High quality and solid. Available in ISO and ANSI. Tkl, full and 60%
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chellem on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:48:34
    Quote from: Benitone on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:33:43
    Quote from: chellem on Sat, 07 September 2019, 07:45:54
    Can't decide between a Varmilo VA87M and a Ducky One 2, both TKL.
    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4911  and https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4284

    I want silent switches and some form of backlight which limited my options to these two keyboards. Is there anything better about the Varmilo keyboards? Is Ducky One 2 considered good quality? Never had a mechanical keyboard and plan on a $130 keyboard to last me many years.

    Get a gmmk hot swap keyboard. Adding the switches is just a Lego game. You'll spend 50 USD plus 30 - 60 USD for the switches. I can't recommend enough that product. High quality and solid. Available in ISO and ANSI. Tkl, full and 60%
    I live in Israel which means 50-60$ shipping  on the board + the silent switches are out of stock, which means I'll have to get separate switches and ship those... basically, it comes at roughly the same price.
    Plus, I kind of want to have it pre-built without too many worries about assembling and lubing different parts myself...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Benitone on Sat, 07 September 2019, 09:02:52
    Quote from: chellem on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:48:34
    Quote from: Benitone on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:33:43
    Quote from: chellem on Sat, 07 September 2019, 07:45:54
    Can't decide between a Varmilo VA87M and a Ducky One 2, both TKL.
    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4911  and https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4284

    I want silent switches and some form of backlight which limited my options to these two keyboards. Is there anything better about the Varmilo keyboards? Is Ducky One 2 considered good quality? Never had a mechanical keyboard and plan on a $130 keyboard to last me many years.

    Get a gmmk hot swap keyboard. Adding the switches is just a Lego game. You'll spend 50 USD plus 30 - 60 USD for the switches. I can't recommend enough that product. High quality and solid. Available in ISO and ANSI. Tkl, full and 60%
    I live in Israel which means 50-60$ shipping  on the board + the silent switches are out of stock, which means I'll have to get separate switches and ship those... basically, it comes at roughly the same price.
    Plus, I kind of want to have it pre-built without too many worries about assembling and lubing different parts myself...

    There's nothing that can go wrong assembling the keyboard. Stabilizers are preinstalled and lubed
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chellem on Sat, 07 September 2019, 09:06:17
    Quote from: Benitone on Sat, 07 September 2019, 09:02:52
    Quote from: chellem on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:48:34
    Quote from: Benitone on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:33:43
    Quote from: chellem on Sat, 07 September 2019, 07:45:54
    Can't decide between a Varmilo VA87M and a Ducky One 2, both TKL.
    https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4911  and https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4284

    I want silent switches and some form of backlight which limited my options to these two keyboards. Is there anything better about the Varmilo keyboards? Is Ducky One 2 considered good quality? Never had a mechanical keyboard and plan on a $130 keyboard to last me many years.

    Get a gmmk hot swap keyboard. Adding the switches is just a Lego game. You'll spend 50 USD plus 30 - 60 USD for the switches. I can't recommend enough that product. High quality and solid. Available in ISO and ANSI. Tkl, full and 60%
    I live in Israel which means 50-60$ shipping  on the board + the silent switches are out of stock, which means I'll have to get separate switches and ship those... basically, it comes at roughly the same price.
    Plus, I kind of want to have it pre-built without too many worries about assembling and lubing different parts myself...

    There's nothing that can go wrong assembling the keyboard. Stabilizers are preinstalled and lubed

    Well, either way I can't purchase switches because they don't ship here and are out of stock where they do.(and even then - they're another $20 at minimum for shipping)

    Do you know anything about the Ducky One 2 vs the Varmilo I mentioned? I'd really like some help on that front since building myself isn't a practical option right now.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Darkling on Sun, 08 September 2019, 04:38:04
    I also really need an opinion about VA87M. I love Koi model (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5146), but I don't know if it's good.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: top123 on Sat, 14 September 2019, 14:22:14
    Jumped from membrane to Gateron red. Everything seems nice, very good feeling but today on my third day I tested keyboard first time in game (Resident evil 7) and couple of times I accidentally activated movement controls (I activated movement controls when my fingers was just resting on switches). How long does it take to take full control of keyboard capabilities? Question for long times users of red switches: Do you mistype sometimes? If yes how often?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hawkingeta on Tue, 17 September 2019, 01:37:09
    Finished my second keyboard (xd84). First one (xd87) is working totally fine and I use it daily at work. The second one was intended for home use. However, I have the following problem. Some keys (Tab, Caps, W, A, F, G, J, L mainly middle row) do not seem to work 100% of the time. I found that when pressing the keycap in the top right or left corner, the button press is not registered. Every other key works fine in this way except those mentioned above. I tried to resoldier these keys but the problem persists. I even tried switching a key (Tab) but it is not easy to completely desoldier and put in a new key. And even the new key seems to have this problem..

    So, I was thinking, bad PCB? Or more likely that I ****ed up soldiering somehow? Can anyone provide some insight? I am lost at this point and spent several evenings on this problem without any result. I rather not toss the whole keyboard in the bin if I can help it.
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Tue, 17 September 2019, 03:39:42
    Quote from: hawkingeta on Tue, 17 September 2019, 01:37:09
    Finished my second keyboard (xd84). First one (xd87) is working totally fine and I use it daily at work. The second one was intended for home use. However, I have the following problem. Some keys (Tab, Caps, W, A, F, G, J, L mainly middle row) do not seem to work 100% of the time. I found that when pressing the keycap in the top right or left corner, the button press is not registered. Every other key works fine in this way except those mentioned above. I tried to resoldier these keys but the problem persists. I even tried switching a key (Tab) but it is not easy to completely desoldier and put in a new key. And even the new key seems to have this problem..

    So, I was thinking, bad PCB? Or more likely that I ****ed up soldiering somehow? Can anyone provide some insight? I am lost at this point and spent several evenings on this problem without any result. I rather not toss the whole keyboard in the bin if I can help it.
    Thanks
    To test it you can touch the two switch solder points with anything conductive (bent paperclip, scissors...) which is the same as pressing the switch and see if it registers.  If that works reliably it's the switch, if it doesn't it's the PCB.  As the other board works I'm assuming it's not the soldering, though maybe you just got lucky - I don't know how much experience you have so you'd be a better judge of that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Wed, 18 September 2019, 13:43:52
    Easy question: where do you all buy your lube? :cool:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 18 September 2019, 19:49:29
    Quote from: _rubik on Wed, 18 September 2019, 13:43:52
    Easy question: where do you all buy your lube? :cool:

    switchmod.net
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hawkingeta on Sun, 22 September 2019, 07:26:44
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Tue, 17 September 2019, 03:39:42
    Quote from: hawkingeta on Tue, 17 September 2019, 01:37:09
    Finished my second keyboard (xd84). First one (xd87) is working totally fine and I use it daily at work. The second one was intended for home use. However, I have the following problem. Some keys (Tab, Caps, W, A, F, G, J, L mainly middle row) do not seem to work 100% of the time. I found that when pressing the keycap in the top right or left corner, the button press is not registered. Every other key works fine in this way except those mentioned above. I tried to resoldier these keys but the problem persists. I even tried switching a key (Tab) but it is not easy to completely desoldier and put in a new key. And even the new key seems to have this problem..

    So, I was thinking, bad PCB? Or more likely that I ****ed up soldiering somehow? Can anyone provide some insight? I am lost at this point and spent several evenings on this problem without any result. I rather not toss the whole keyboard in the bin if I can help it.
    Thanks
    To test it you can touch the two switch solder points with anything conductive (bent paperclip, scissors...) which is the same as pressing the switch and see if it registers.  If that works reliably it's the switch, if it doesn't it's the PCB.  As the other board works I'm assuming it's not the soldering, though maybe you just got lucky - I don't know how much experience you have so you'd be a better judge of that.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I tried that and it was working reliably, so I ordered a couple more switches and try to change them and see if they are better.

    Thank you for that!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Mon, 07 October 2019, 08:08:31
    those who have spare pcb mount and plate mount cherry stabilizers. will you be kind enough to confirm that this part (axis?) is interchangeable? can i use this part from a pcb mount stabilizer in a plate mount stabilizer and vice versa?
    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 09 October 2019, 20:33:33
    Quote from: pabile on Mon, 07 October 2019, 08:08:31
    those who have spare pcb mount and plate mount cherry stabilizers. will you be kind enough to confirm that this part (axis?) is interchangeable? can i use this part from a pcb mount stabilizer in a plate mount stabilizer and vice versa?
    (Attachment Link)

    yes it's the same
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Grandmasternoob on Thu, 10 October 2019, 06:10:50
    guys, why so cheap? or is it a fake krytox?

    https://txkeyboards.com/en/shop/peripherals/krytox-us-only-detail
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pabile on Thu, 10 October 2019, 08:26:22
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 09 October 2019, 20:33:33
    yes it's the same

    i gambled and ordered a pcb mount couple of days ago  :p thanks a lot for the confirmation!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 11 October 2019, 12:09:31
    Quote from: Grandmasternoob on Thu, 10 October 2019, 06:10:50
    guys, why so cheap? or is it a fake krytox?

    https://txkeyboards.com/en/shop/peripherals/krytox-us-only-detail
    Probably due to ease of buying in bulk. Also g2 is more readily available than, say, g0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Tue, 15 October 2019, 16:10:05
    Hello guys, i have question about bluetooth mechanical keboard
    Any latence when typing/gaming?
    Some of jerk bluetooth keyboards come with delay wakeup after being into sleep mode, i hate that, it could last several secondes before pressing key was registered
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: godofdeath on Thu, 17 October 2019, 21:39:19
    Any recommendations on good 84 keyboards? Need my f keys closer for gaming and saving desk space.

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pchoi on Mon, 21 October 2019, 19:05:30
    Hi!! I'm very new to the keyboard scene, but I can already say I am looking for a particular type of keyboard, and was curious to see if anyone here could help me decide where/how to find one. My ideal set up is a:

    - Polycarbonate TKL
    - QMK or other customization (I use a mac)
    - Underglow and RGB (bc I want it to show through the semi-clear polycarb)
    - USB-C
    - Ideally under $250 or even cheaper... (but I understand prices can get wild)

    One that I have found is the TGR A17, but I have no clue where I could even get my hands on one, or if there will ever be another run of them. Another one I have looked at is the Gon Nerd TKL in polycarbonate, which is a cheap alternative, but i've heard mixed reviews and would rather get something quality that I can trust. Any advice is appreciated!! Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: andj00 on Wed, 23 October 2019, 23:42:04
    What type of stabilizers does the XD64 PCB use? PCB Screw in or Push in?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 26 October 2019, 13:20:38
    Quote from: andj00 on Wed, 23 October 2019, 23:42:04
    What type of stabilizers does the XD64 PCB use? PCB Screw in or Push in?

    I don't think there's a difference on the PCB side between the two, the screws go through the same holes that the clips would use.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddrfraser1 on Fri, 08 November 2019, 19:50:31
    Are BTC sliders compatible with Topre?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: envyy24 on Sun, 10 November 2019, 14:21:16
    Is it safe to buy Akko keyboard from ebay? Im in the UK.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HotTahdy on Wed, 20 November 2019, 15:43:56
    I am not sure if this is a simple question but I am a fairly new mechanical keyboard enthusiast who is super interest in building a kit.

    My question is: What is a good/budget kit for a beginner (who has no soldering experience YET)?

    There are so many cool group buys that I think look great but I am not confident enough in my skill to invest 300+ on kit.

    I idea kit would be a 65%-80% size range.

    I have a Corsair M70 with MX browns and I recently bought a Ducky One2 Mini 60% with brown switches. I like the ducky but I would like a bigger size plus my S switch is already acting funny and spamming additional S's when I am typing which is annoying.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trmi8120 on Fri, 22 November 2019, 11:09:32
    Anybody got any idea what protocol the Wang 725 uses? Saw a listing for one on ebay and it appeared to use a ps/2 plug. Deskthority’s wiki said 6P6C (no idea what that is) and I’m not sure if it’ll work fine on modern computers with a simple ps/2 to usb converter.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 22 November 2019, 11:13:02
    That is a plug that looks like an ethernet connection.

    Soarer's firmware will sometimes work, but not usually.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trmi8120 on Fri, 22 November 2019, 14:45:24
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 22 November 2019, 11:13:02
    That is a plug that looks like an ethernet connection.

    Soarer's firmware will sometimes work, but not usually.

    arrgh. Thought I could get off with a cheap $5 converter. Guess I'll continue looking for another board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 22 November 2019, 16:46:28
    Contact Orihalcon and ask him if his adapter cable will work.

    If it is this one, it is pretty valuable for its key caps alone:

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Trmi8120 on Fri, 22 November 2019, 21:43:26
    Was an alps electric model, salmon alps w/ dyesubs.

    case was yellowed w/ "tan lines" from where the card things were

    Seller cleaned the switched and bored which is cool I guess.

    Listing is here if ya wanna check it out. A bit pricey for me but the seller drops the price every once and a while (was $180 a week ago)

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-WANG-724-Keyboard-PINK-SKCM-Alps-725-4500-US-CHEAT-SHEET/264524089751?epid=14034817915&hash=item3d96dd4997:g:vIkAAOSwN4Bdwv~E:sc:USPSPriority!21043!US!-1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Sun, 24 November 2019, 20:58:45
    Hi, my keyboards have type C connector which follows ai03's type c guide (http://"https://kbwiki.ai03.me/books/pcb-design/page/usb-type-c"),
    is there any problems if I use "quick charge" (and data) cables with my keyboards? (I mean don't "quick charge" cables have high-current, would that affect my keyboard?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pchoi on Tue, 26 November 2019, 15:01:58
    Hello! I have a question about purchasing a group-buy keyboard. I'm fairly new and just was curious, do most people buy multiple PCBs for their custom keyboard, just in the odd case that one might fail? Or do the manufacturers do well in making sure you have a fully functioning PCB? Any advice is welcomed. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: invariance on Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:56:08
    Quote from: Tom_Kazansky on Sun, 24 November 2019, 20:58:45
    Hi, my keyboards have type C connector which follows ai03's type c guide (http://"https://kbwiki.ai03.me/books/pcb-design/page/usb-type-c"),
    is there any problems if I use "quick charge" (and data) cables with my keyboards? (I mean don't "quick charge" cables have high-current, would that affect my keyboard?)


    Won’t be a problem.  Your keyboard will only draw as much current as it needs and using a cable with a higher capacity won’t force more current into the device.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bananasplit_00 on Thu, 28 November 2019, 08:17:41
    Hello,

    When buying my first custom keyboard and switches(all second hand) i got a bag with unknown lube that the seller claimed they used on everything. Worked amazing for about a day and has since made my switches extremely scratchy. How do i get it off, its not water soluble and i have no idea what it is, it came in an unmarked ziplock bag :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 30 November 2019, 12:01:55
    Quote from: bananasplit_00 on Thu, 28 November 2019, 08:17:41
    Hello,

    When buying my first custom keyboard and switches(all second hand) i got a bag with unknown lube that the seller claimed they used on everything. Worked amazing for about a day and has since made my switches extremely scratchy. How do i get it off, its not water soluble and i have no idea what it is, it came in an unmarked ziplock bag :(

    Oily lubricants should absorb into cloth or toilet paper.  Have you confirmed it's the lube by leaving some on a non-porous surface (like a food plate) for a day and seeing what happens?  Seems strange it would dry out that quickly...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 30 November 2019, 19:20:19
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sat, 30 November 2019, 12:01:55

    Seems strange it would dry out that quickly.


    If it is not drying out it may be attracting and sticking dust particles. Are all of them equally problematic?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bananasplit_00 on Mon, 02 December 2019, 01:04:20
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 30 November 2019, 19:20:19
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sat, 30 November 2019, 12:01:55

    Seems strange it would dry out that quickly.


    If it is not drying out it may be attracting and sticking dust particles. Are all of them equally problematic?

    all of them are BAD but the ones with a bit more use like the alpha block are a little worse.
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sat, 30 November 2019, 12:01:55
    Quote from: bananasplit_00 on Thu, 28 November 2019, 08:17:41
    Hello,

    When buying my first custom keyboard and switches(all second hand) i got a bag with unknown lube that the seller claimed they used on everything. Worked amazing for about a day and has since made my switches extremely scratchy. How do i get it off, its not water soluble and i have no idea what it is, it came in an unmarked ziplock bag :(

    Oily lubricants should absorb into cloth or toilet paper.  Have you confirmed it's the lube by leaving some on a non-porous surface (like a food plate) for a day and seeing what happens?  Seems strange it would dry out that quickly...

    from lubing to first use there were a couple days but its less dry and more just a sticky mess. its very thick and greasy. Im not sure what it could be besides the lube as gateron silenced browns shouldnt feel like this i am fairly sure.

    I have started cleaning with a newly bought ultrasonic cleaner, works alright but its going to take a couple of days before i have this keyboard together again i feel... right now im using water with a bit of dishwashing soap added and it works alright, takes some minutes to get it off because its very sticky
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 13 December 2019, 07:53:30
    Does Corsair K70 Rapidfire have more sculpting on the keycaps than A-Data XPG Summoner?

    https://www.pcmag.com/review/371886/adata-xpg-summoner
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/gadget-reviews/corsair-k70-review/

    I am finding it difficult to tell on the basis of the photos alone.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DALExSNAIL on Fri, 13 December 2019, 10:05:50
    Quote from: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 13 December 2019, 07:53:30
    Does Corsair K70 Rapidfire have more sculpting on the keycaps than A-Data XPG Summoner?

    https://www.pcmag.com/review/371886/adata-xpg-summoner
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/gadget-reviews/corsair-k70-review/

    I am finding it difficult to tell on the basis of the photos alone.

    Both appear to be OEM profile. If that's the case they would be the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TacticalCoder on Sun, 15 December 2019, 15:46:35
    Very simple question (hopefully): when you make a custom keyboard, would it be easy to get "mod + {ijkl}" to send the equivalent of the arrow keys code (without the computer ever knowing I hit "mod + {ijkl}"?  Here mod would be a modifier I wouldn't need the OS to see.  In other word when I'd hit this only this modifier, I wouldn't want anything to be send to the computer. I'd only want code send once I press this modifier plus a few select keys (including but no limited to ijkl).

    Is this easily doable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Sun, 15 December 2019, 16:53:56
    Quote from: TacticalCoder on Sun, 15 December 2019, 15:46:35
    Very simple question (hopefully): when you make a custom keyboard, would it be easy to get "mod + {ijkl}" to send the equivalent of the arrow keys code (without the computer ever knowing I hit "mod + {ijkl}"?  Here mod would be a modifier I wouldn't need the OS to see.  In other word when I'd hit this only this modifier, I wouldn't want anything to be send to the computer. I'd only want code send once I press this modifier plus a few select keys (including but no limited to ijkl).

    Is this easily doable?

    yeah any programmable keyboard does it this way
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 16 December 2019, 13:52:03
    Tactical Coder,

    It depends if you have a custom pcb or not. Usually you are able to program those with QMK so that you can change the key mappings. I don't know how normal factory manufactured keyboards work. Sorry.

    Sincerely,
    treeleaf64
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 20 December 2019, 06:32:01
    What's the difference between Corsair (1) Rapidfire, (2) Lux and (3) Strafe?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: treeleaf64 on Fri, 20 December 2019, 12:12:07
    The manufacturer would have to use clear plastic for the lettering of doubleshots.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EMC Labs on Tue, 24 December 2019, 05:36:33
    Quote from: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 20 December 2019, 06:32:01
    What's the difference between Corsair (1) Rapidfire, (2) Lux and (3) Strafe?

    I'm pretty sure they use the same controller, the only difference is the type of chassis and keycaps. Don't quote me tho
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: magicrobots on Thu, 23 January 2020, 19:42:57
    Hello! I'm very new to this!

    I've got two Silent Leopold FC660C keyboards, one black/black and one Blue/Tan and I'm exchanging a couple keycaps between them for fun. I seem to have caused a problem and would love some input:

    I switched the space bars, decided I didn't like it, and switched them back. Now, however, the tan space bar makes an awful racket whenever I hit it at normal typing speed. I switched it from base to base and it's definitely the keycap itself, which seems super weird to me. I used two WASD wire pullers to extract the keys, and didn't seem to need a crazy amount of force to pull them off or anything.

    I'm perplexed 'cause the space bar itself seems like a pretty solid piece of plastic, and I can't imagine where this sound could be coming from. It seems to be connecting properly to the two edge pieces and the switch itself in the center.

    I could try to post some video if that would be helpful?

    If anybody has some ideas for where I should start looking I would appreciate some help! Thanks in advance. Also if this is the wrong thread to post this in I apologize, I wasn't sure if this was a Simple Question or not!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DALExSNAIL on Sat, 25 January 2020, 19:59:04
    Quote from: magicrobots on Thu, 23 January 2020, 19:42:57
    Hello! I'm very new to this!

    I've got two Silent Leopold FC660C keyboards, one black/black and one Blue/Tan and I'm exchanging a couple keycaps between them for fun. I seem to have caused a problem and would love some input:

    I switched the space bars, decided I didn't like it, and switched them back. Now, however, the tan space bar makes an awful racket whenever I hit it at normal typing speed. I switched it from base to base and it's definitely the keycap itself, which seems super weird to me. I used two WASD wire pullers to extract the keys, and didn't seem to need a crazy amount of force to pull them off or anything.

    I'm perplexed 'cause the space bar itself seems like a pretty solid piece of plastic, and I can't imagine where this sound could be coming from. It seems to be connecting properly to the two edge pieces and the switch itself in the center.

    I could try to post some video if that would be helpful?

    If anybody has some ideas for where I should start looking I would appreciate some help! Thanks in advance. Also if this is the wrong thread to post this in I apologize, I wasn't sure if this was a Simple Question or not!

    Every topre board I've ever owned had this issue after pulling my spacebars once or twice. Never found a way to get it to sound as good as it did when I got it. Always got super rattly, but I guess I don't know if that's the noise you mean. Post a soundcloud upload or something and let us hear it mane.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gorauskas on Mon, 27 January 2020, 15:33:37
    Currently, as of late January 2020, what are the best options for a 60% PCB as far as availability is concerned? The DZ60 from KBDFans is readily available for shipping, but are there any other similar PCBs? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Torolava on Tue, 28 January 2020, 13:14:17
    Anyone know where i can buy a gb spot for either the rama M65-A or The U80-A? any responds would be appreciated
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 5949 on Sun, 09 February 2020, 19:46:32
    Hello, everyone

    Straight to the point: I'm looking for a pre-built 96% mechanical keyboard with backlighting. Might you list possible options that you know of?
    Edit: For now, assume money is no object. I want to see all the options

    For the past few days, I've been looking for keyboards to replace mine. One with a numpad but without the width.
    96% mechanical keyboards seem to fit my needs well, as well as some minor variations like Cherry 1800 clones.
    I would love to build one of my own, but I don't really have the time to do so, mostly because my keyboard is dying (so I'm getting a new kb out out of necessity) :/
    So far, I've found the following keyboards:
    All of these are really good contenders, and I'm looking to get either the IQUINIX, Leopold or the DROP SHIFT.
    Though, the DROP is out of stock and pricey, IQUINIX basically the SHIFT in function and price but non-hotswappable, and the Leopold seems to be out of stock everywhere but Amazon (where it's unreasonably priced).

    Anyone got suggestions I could add to the list of prebuilt 96% keyboards?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 11 February 2020, 15:16:13
    Quote from: 5949 on Sun, 09 February 2020, 19:46:32
    Hello, everyone

    Straight to the point: I'm looking for a pre-built 96% mechanical keyboard with backlighting. Might you list possible options that you know of?
    Edit: For now, assume money is no object. I want to see all the options

    For the past few days, I've been looking for keyboards to replace mine. One with a numpad but without the width.
    96% mechanical keyboards seem to fit my needs well, as well as some minor variations like Cherry 1800 clones.
    I would love to build one of my own, but I don't really have the time to do so, mostly because my keyboard is dying (so I'm getting a new kb out out of necessity) :/
    So far, I've found the following keyboards:
    • Leopold FC980M
    • Vortex Tab 90M
    • YMDK 96 Hotswap Kit (there's an assembly service)
    • Keychrom K4 (bad QC though)
    • IQUINIX F96-Knight
    • DROP SHIFT
    All of these are really good contenders, and I'm looking to get either the IQUINIX, Leopold or the DROP SHIFT.
    Though, the DROP is out of stock and pricey, IQUINIX basically the SHIFT in function and price but non-hotswappable, and the Leopold seems to be out of stock everywhere but Amazon (where it's unreasonably priced).

    Anyone got suggestions I could add to the list of prebuilt 96% keyboards?

    I think this is past the realm of simple in terms of this thread personally, but with that said I recommend Leopold.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Koatl on Wed, 12 February 2020, 18:54:38
    Quote from: 5949 on Sun, 09 February 2020, 19:46:32
    96% keyboards?

    Kira. Check kono store.

    Also my question for all: why do spacebar kits sometimes come with an extra B key?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: EMC Labs on Wed, 12 February 2020, 23:56:41
    Quote from: Koatl on Wed, 12 February 2020, 18:54:38
    Quote from: 5949 on Sun, 09 February 2020, 19:46:32
    96% keyboards?

    Kira. Check kono store.

    Also my question for all: why do spacebar kits sometimes come with an extra B key?

    For ergo / split keyboards like Alice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 25 February 2020, 11:09:43
    What's the best way to remove hotswappable switches? I can just barely do some of them with my fingers but I didn't get a switch tool with my Massdrop Ctrl a couple years ago and am getting tired of the current switches.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Snapple on Wed, 26 February 2020, 07:05:52
    I am looking for a TKL keyboard where I will put Tealios v2 or Gateron Ink Black switches. Is it better a hotswap option (GMMK or Drop CTRL) or a build custom keayboard (I have no idea where to start)
    Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mustardgreens on Wed, 04 March 2020, 02:20:10
    I am interested in a full-size board without f keys. Does such a kb exist?

    Sent from my LG-M703 using Tapatalk

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhoenixUNI on Thu, 05 March 2020, 14:38:41
    Quote from: mustardgreens on Wed, 04 March 2020, 02:20:10
    I am interested in a full-size board without f keys. Does such a kb exist?

    The Vortex Vibe might be what you're looking for. https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3923
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PhoenixUNI on Thu, 05 March 2020, 14:39:22
    I'm having an issue attempting to program some keys on my Vortex Tab 90M. Things like moving the up arrow to Fn+I works ok.

    However... by default, the Tab 90M has its media keys on FN+F1-F6. I want to move those to FN+Q/W/E/S/D/F, matching what the Pok3r does. I've yet to find a way to reprogram those. Is this possible, or is that baked into the firmware of the board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: K on Thu, 05 March 2020, 15:15:57
    How comparable are the BKE extreme domes to the box navies? I love the sharp tactility of the box navies and they do have similar bottom out forces. But I have been reading a lot of reviews saying that the weightings are irrelevant as they are completely different from normal switches. Would I be better served by the heavy domes? Thanks in advance
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jeanmaire on Sat, 07 March 2020, 17:06:00
    Hello - Not sure where the correct location for this would be, but I have an old IBM model M keyboard...it's in perfect shape cosmetically. However, only the B V and Space Bar are not working.
    I was able to get it all apart and was checking to see if all contacts were tight and clean etc. Since it's only letters B, V and space bar....I figured someone would know what's likely going on at a glance. Thank you.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MaximilianKohler on Fri, 20 March 2020, 09:51:15
    What are the keyboards with the lowest travel distance?

    A search of this forum for "mechanical keyboard lowest travel distance" gives 0 results.

    3mm total seems to be the lowest I've found thus far. My use is gaming accuracy: http://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/20v9b6/buyingmodhelp_looking_for_orings_in_the_us/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Tue, 24 March 2020, 16:48:56
    Quote from: MaximilianKohler on Fri, 20 March 2020, 09:51:15
    What are the keyboards with the lowest travel distance?

    A search of this forum for "mechanical keyboard lowest travel distance" gives 0 results.

    3mm total seems to be the lowest I've found thus far. My use is gaming accuracy: http://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/20v9b6/buyingmodhelp_looking_for_orings_in_the_us/

    Are you looking for travel distance to actuate, or to bottom out?

    For MX, check out the MX Speed series, with actuation 1.2mm, total 3.4mm. I don't have experience with these switches personally, but you may be able to combine them with O-rings, like you have with standard MX previously, to further reduce travel. There may be MX-compatible switches with similar characteristics (I believe Kailh has a speed series as well).

    If you really just want the lowest possible travel, and are willing to move away from mechanical switches, look at scissor switches. Total travel is often <2mm, but actuation is at or near bottom-out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MaximilianKohler on Tue, 24 March 2020, 18:42:53
    Quote from: user 18 on Tue, 24 March 2020, 16:48:56
    If you really just want the lowest possible travel, and are willing to move away from mechanical switches, look at scissor switches. Total travel is often <2mm, but actuation is at or near bottom-out.

    Know of any scissor switch keyboards with NKRO? NKRO is the only reason I got a mech keyboard.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: 5949 on Thu, 26 March 2020, 22:29:16
    Anyone know the materials used for the Everglide Coral Reds?

    Durock uses POM for their linear stems (according do their Aliexpress storepage), but it isn't mentioned in the Everglide drop what the stems are made out of...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mikehotel on Wed, 01 April 2020, 09:33:13
    Is the FC750 programmable?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 01 April 2020, 19:16:48
    Quote from: mikehotel on Wed, 01 April 2020, 09:33:13
    Is the FC750 programmable?

    nope
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Breezy_Ocean on Mon, 06 April 2020, 11:48:16
    How exactly might I go about buying a kyuu? Maybe my eyes are bigger than my stomach per se, but I think that's the case I want for my first build.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 06 April 2020, 11:51:57
    Quote from: Breezy_Ocean on Mon, 06 April 2020, 11:48:16
    How exactly might I go about buying a kyuu? Maybe my eyes are bigger than my stomach per se, but I think that's the case I want for my first build.

    You will have to purchase it aftermarket.

    Try /r/mechmarket.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Breezy_Ocean on Mon, 06 April 2020, 14:19:29
    Also looking at the Klippe rev 4 that is currently up. Short on funds at the moment and most likely for the next month or 2. How long would that stay around before being totally bought up?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 06 April 2020, 14:21:34
    Quote from: Breezy_Ocean on Mon, 06 April 2020, 14:19:29
    Also looking at the Klippe rev 4 that is currently up. Short on funds at the moment and most likely for the next month or 2. How long would that stay around before being totally bought up?

    Says here that it's about 14 days. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105186.msg2881282#msg2881282
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 06 April 2020, 14:50:41
    Quote from: LightningXI on Mon, 06 April 2020, 14:21:34
    Quote from: Breezy_Ocean on Mon, 06 April 2020, 14:19:29
    Also looking at the Klippe rev 4 that is currently up. Short on funds at the moment and most likely for the next month or 2. How long would that stay around before being totally bought up?

    Says here that it's about 14 days. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105186.msg2881282#msg2881282

    1UP KBs will probably end up with some Klippes to sell after the GB if OP doesn't make it in that too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Venaros on Thu, 09 April 2020, 13:36:37
    Quote from: Blaise170 on Tue, 25 February 2020, 11:09:43
    What's the best way to remove hotswappable switches? I can just barely do some of them with my fingers but I didn't get a switch tool with my Massdrop Ctrl a couple years ago and am getting tired of the current switches.


    With a switch puller lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Venaros on Thu, 09 April 2020, 13:39:39
    Quote from: 5949 on Thu, 26 March 2020, 22:29:16
    Anyone know the materials used for the Everglide Coral Reds?

    Durock uses POM for their linear stems (according do their Aliexpress storepage), but it isn't mentioned in the Everglide drop what the stems are made out of...


    Most likely POM stems with polycarbonate housings
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Venaros on Thu, 09 April 2020, 13:48:12
    Quote from: K on Thu, 05 March 2020, 15:15:57
    How comparable are the BKE extreme domes to the box navies? I love the sharp tactility of the box navies and they do have similar bottom out forces. But I have been reading a lot of reviews saying that the weightings are irrelevant as they are completely different from normal switches. Would I be better served by the heavy domes? Thanks in advance


    While I've never tried BKE domes, the extremes should feel heavier than the BOX Navies, since their tactile bump is much longer, leading to a higher gfmm, which measures the force needed to press a switch, while bottom out weight only measures how much force is needed to keep the switch at that point.

    This segment (2:19-2:55) from one of Chyrosran22's videos explains it much better than I can:

     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: aerogel on Mon, 13 April 2020, 16:47:51
    Can't find an answer.

    What would be better and why? Plate or pcb mounted stabilizers? And why? And how do I know if I'm able to mount them on the pcb/plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 13 April 2020, 17:00:49
    Quote from: aerogel on Mon, 13 April 2020, 16:47:51
    Can't find an answer.

    What would be better and why? Plate or pcb mounted stabilizers? And why? And how do I know if I'm able to mount them on the pcb/plate?

    Check the cutouts on the plate. Most custom keyboard kits nowadays use PCB-mount.

    Plate mount compatible plates look something like this

    (https://i.imgur.com/V0G47Pt.jpg)

    And they mount like this

    (https://i.imgur.com/jvf2dXa.jpg)

    This is how PCB-mount stabilizers are placed (from BELOW the plate, on the PCB; so you must install these BEFORE you put the plate above the PCB and then put in switches):

    (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1VNdwXbYI8KJjy0Faq6zAiVXak.jpg?size=120818&height=1000&width=1000&hash=2d732c7bce7ea4816c15e4450a19c4f3)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Venaros on Tue, 14 April 2020, 11:13:41
    Quote from: aerogel on Mon, 13 April 2020, 16:47:51
    Can't find an answer.

    What would be better and why? Plate or pcb mounted stabilizers? And why? And how do I know if I'm able to mount them on the pcb/plate?

    You will only need to remove the corresponding switch to remove a plate mount stab, i.e you will only need to remove the spacebar switch to remove the spacebar stab, while you'll have to remove all the switches to remove PCB mount/screw-in stabs. Plate mount stabs can only be used with a plate, while PCB mount stabs can be used in either a plateless build or with a plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fatcoffeebeans on Tue, 14 April 2020, 17:23:01
    is there website or place to buy GMK keycaps in stock?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 15 April 2020, 00:24:37
    Quote from: fatcoffeebeans on Tue, 14 April 2020, 17:23:01
    is there website or place to buy GMK keycaps in stock?

    highly depends on what set you want, most vendors stock limited extras.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fatcoffeebeans on Wed, 15 April 2020, 09:46:51
    Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 15 April 2020, 00:24:37
    Quote from: fatcoffeebeans on Tue, 14 April 2020, 17:23:01
    is there website or place to buy GMK keycaps in stock?

    highly depends on what set you want, most vendors stock limited extras.

    gotcha, thanks for the info. no idea what set I would want yet
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 20 April 2020, 08:50:21
    is there a list somewhere keeps track and shows the difference of all new switches, and stabilizers?
    I haven't follow keyboard stuff for couple years and there are all these new switches i have no idea about.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: XUR on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:52:49
    I'm looking to buy some Krytox 205g0 lube but trying to find a vendor that stocks it and sells easily to the US.

    Any thoughts on this from "Specialtylubricants" on eBay? They say they diluted the grease for switch use... sounds different??

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/KRYTOX-GPL-205-Grade-0-Switch-Grease-Lubricant-for-linear-switches-5-grams-205g0/184176539364?hash=item2ae1c6f6e4:g:XbwAAOSw5p5eco~Q
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fxm.eee on Sat, 25 April 2020, 18:45:13
    what the fuccc happened to imsto?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 26 April 2020, 17:55:05
    Quote from: fxm.eee on Sat, 25 April 2020, 18:45:13
    what the fuccc happened to imsto?
    Gone forever
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Wed, 29 April 2020, 10:44:29
    ripsto
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mac.n.keys on Thu, 30 April 2020, 03:34:51
    Hi,
    I think about getting the Infinikey Pastel - Mega Addon Kit
    Link: https://prototypist.net/collections/infinikey-pastel/products/group-buy-infinikey-pastel-mega-addon-kit (https://prototypist.net/collections/infinikey-pastel/products/group-buy-infinikey-pastel-mega-addon-kit)
    for a Drop ALT Mechanical keyboard or a Ducky One 2 SF.


    I'm pretty new to this.
    My question: What do the numbers in the photo of the add-on kit mean? (1.5u, 2u, 7u etc.).
    I assume it's some sort of size indication. How can I check if it fits on my keyboards?
    Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 01 May 2020, 17:06:38
    Quote from: mac.n.keys on Thu, 30 April 2020, 03:34:51
    Hi,
    I think about getting the Infinikey Pastel - Mega Addon Kit
    Link: https://prototypist.net/collections/infinikey-pastel/products/group-buy-infinikey-pastel-mega-addon-kit (https://prototypist.net/collections/infinikey-pastel/products/group-buy-infinikey-pastel-mega-addon-kit)
    for a Drop ALT Mechanical keyboard or a Ducky One 2 SF.


    I'm pretty new to this.
    My question: What do the numbers in the photo of the add-on kit mean? (1.5u, 2u, 7u etc.).
    I assume it's some sort of size indication. How can I check if it fits on my keyboards?
    Thanks.

    A standard letter key is 1 unit wide and this is written written 1u, you have to eyeball if the bigger keys are 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 of a key bigger than that.

    The two boards you mention use different keys in the bottom row and the right shift but more importantly the Ducky will have come with OEM profile keycaps which are different height to the pastel ones, which are Cherry profile.  Not sure about the Drop board.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mac.n.keys on Sat, 02 May 2020, 02:28:29
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Fri, 01 May 2020, 17:06:38
    Quote from: mac.n.keys on Thu, 30 April 2020, 03:34:51
    Hi,
    I think about getting the Infinikey Pastel - Mega Addon Kit
    Link: https://prototypist.net/collections/infinikey-pastel/products/group-buy-infinikey-pastel-mega-addon-kit (https://prototypist.net/collections/infinikey-pastel/products/group-buy-infinikey-pastel-mega-addon-kit)
    for a Drop ALT Mechanical keyboard or a Ducky One 2 SF.


    I'm pretty new to this.
    My question: What do the numbers in the photo of the add-on kit mean? (1.5u, 2u, 7u etc.).
    I assume it's some sort of size indication. How can I check if it fits on my keyboards?
    Thanks.

    A standard letter key is 1 unit wide and this is written written 1u, you have to eyeball if the bigger keys are 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 of a key bigger than that.

    The two boards you mention use different keys in the bottom row and the right shift but more importantly the Ducky will have come with OEM profile keycaps which are different height to the pastel ones, which are Cherry profile.  Not sure about the Drop board.

    Thanks for answering my question and the info about the profile. I didn't knew about that.
    Comparing the Drop Alt keycaps with a comparison shot on reddit I think they are Cheery profile.

    I must admit I'm a total noob in mechanical keyboards.
    Is there anything else I need to consider when selecting keycaps for a keyboard?
    Is there a beginner guide somewhere on GH?

    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/drop-alt-mechanical-keyboard/FP/YLrqudGvRLiSBcK6POuX_0862.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=fill&w=820&h=547&bg=f0f0f0&dpr=2&q=35)

    https://external-preview.redd.it/mOLsIwK7vyWP9Y57Q0DEzdufQUQzjC8zJdqohLBzbzY.jpg?auto=webp&s=72bdef19750ef60f74f8f26589e4ee1abd8d21c5 (https://external-preview.redd.it/mOLsIwK7vyWP9Y57Q0DEzdufQUQzjC8zJdqohLBzbzY.jpg?auto=webp&s=72bdef19750ef60f74f8f26589e4ee1abd8d21c5)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 02 May 2020, 04:52:37
    Quote from: mac.n.keys on Sat, 02 May 2020, 02:28:29
    Is there anything else I need to consider when selecting keycaps for a keyboard?
    Is there a beginner guide somewhere on GH?

    Show Image
    (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/drop-alt-mechanical-keyboard/FP/YLrqudGvRLiSBcK6POuX_0862.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=fill&w=820&h=547&bg=f0f0f0&dpr=2&q=35)


    Yup, looks like Cherry.  Manufacturers usually say in the product description but pictures work too.

    I was going to say there isn't a guide because it's pretty simple and with the two things above you're now an expert, then I remembered the possible rubbing of some keycaps if the switches are one way up or if they have LEDs in them, not a problem if you match whats on there though.

    Most people buy a whole set which makes things easier but I should warn you that the Drop keycaps are probably ABS and if they are they will sound different to the PBT pastels.  Some people would be bothered by this, most don't care.  The font may also be different, and/or in a different place on the cap.  You know if this will bother you better than I do :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Mon, 11 May 2020, 12:05:02
    Anyone know how the blank white Gateron or ePBT caps compare to WS1?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:03:53
    Anyone know how to get in touch with the ctrl.alt people? I'm trying to find the podcast that they did (I think it was BunnyLake) with HipsterPunks back in 2016, maybe as far back as 2014.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:08:39
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:03:53
    Anyone know how to get in touch with the ctrl.alt people? I'm trying to find the podcast that they did (I think it was BunnyLake) with HipsterPunks back in 2016, maybe as far back as 2014.

    Your best bet is probably on Instagram. I believe it was sent who did the interview though iirc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 11 May 2020, 17:24:00
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:08:39
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:03:53
    Anyone know how to get in touch with the ctrl.alt people? I'm trying to find the podcast that they did (I think it was BunnyLake) with HipsterPunks back in 2016, maybe as far back as 2014.

    Your best bet is probably on Instagram. I believe it was sent who did the interview though iirc

    Awesome, thanks. Gonna try to track this down.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 12 May 2020, 06:30:06
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Mon, 11 May 2020, 17:24:00
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:08:39
    Quote from: bcredbottle on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:03:53
    Anyone know how to get in touch with the ctrl.alt people? I'm trying to find the podcast that they did (I think it was BunnyLake) with HipsterPunks back in 2016, maybe as far back as 2014.

    Your best bet is probably on Instagram. I believe it was sent who did the interview though iirc

    Awesome, thanks. Gonna try to track this down.

    Let me know if you find it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zerosxl on Mon, 18 May 2020, 06:32:30
    Anyone know if there are any tenkeyless format PCBs that support the gateron optical switches?!?
    I've been searching for a solid 2 hours and cannot find anything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rayndalf on Mon, 18 May 2020, 19:23:32
    Are these Cherry profile keys?
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/KB-5150-keyboard-UNTESTED-AS-IS/192996137497?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: derpdederp on Sun, 24 May 2020, 07:02:57
    Quote from: bear95 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 14:23:49
    I'm probably going to mod it to make it even more quieter but would you say cherry silent blacks are the quietest switch to start with?

    Did you ever get an answer to this @bear95? I'm curious if there is anything just as quiet but less mushy & scratchy than the cherry mx silent black... I'm not saying they are mushy & scratchy, but I've seen so many reviews of the cherry mx silent red/black claiming as much.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ♾Ḋḯṩⱥṩẗḝṟ on Wed, 27 May 2020, 07:35:35
    Quote from: Rayndalf on Mon, 18 May 2020, 19:23:32
    Are these Cherry profile keys?
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/KB-5150-keyboard-UNTESTED-AS-IS/192996137497?

    Keycaps are cherry profile but aren't mx stem compatibel!

    https://deskthority.net/wiki/Key_Tronic_Model_F_clone_series
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 29 May 2020, 17:39:53
    Are there any split keyboards with a polycarbonate plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 29 May 2020, 20:12:03
    Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 29 May 2020, 17:39:53
    Are there any split keyboards with a polycarbonate plate?

    I think the plate files have been released for the VE.A but I'm not really familiar with other split boards
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chyll2 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 06:09:14
    I want to upgrade an off-the shelf keyboard stabilizers. It is plate mounted. Am I correct that the only upgrade path right now is the GMK/Cherry plate-mounted stabs?

    All other aftermarket stabilizers are PCB/screw-in which will never fit or allowed to be used on a plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jamster on Wed, 03 June 2020, 05:51:36
    Are DSA and XDA the only 'row agnostic' profiles? A quick Google suggests so, but ideally I'm looking for a profile that is cylindrical rather than spherical (DSA), and not like a dinner plate (XDA).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 03 June 2020, 06:39:37
    Quote from: jamster on Wed, 03 June 2020, 05:51:36
    Are DSA and XDA the only 'row agnostic' profiles? A quick Google suggests so, but ideally I'm looking for a profile that is cylindrical rather than spherical (DSA), and not like a dinner plate (XDA).
    G20 caps from PMK are not spherical, not sure they're cylindrical though.  No ISO enter either, if that's a problem.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jamster on Wed, 03 June 2020, 06:56:01
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Wed, 03 June 2020, 06:39:37
    Quote from: jamster on Wed, 03 June 2020, 05:51:36
    Are DSA and XDA the only 'row agnostic' profiles? A quick Google suggests so, but ideally I'm looking for a profile that is cylindrical rather than spherical (DSA), and not like a dinner plate (XDA).
    G20 caps from PMK are not spherical, not sure they're cylindrical though.  No ISO enter either, if that's a problem.

    Thanks, hadn't even realised there was a profile called G20. No ISO isn't a problem, I left ISO boards twenty years ago. Looked up the profile and they appear to be even flatter than XDA- almost chicklets!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jamster on Thu, 04 June 2020, 05:03:23
    Are there any readily available tactile switches with silencing besides Zilents?

    All I've come across so far are on the silenced front are linears from Cherry and Gateron.

    Edit: And by 'tactile' I mean more tactile than Cherry brown (aka practically linear :)

    Edit2: Just found a thread talking about Box Silent Browns. Might be the ticket.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sat, 06 June 2020, 22:20:52
    Favorite 60% case that accepts a standard 60% PCB? Specifically, I just picked up an AN-C PCB from Cannon Keys for fun, but I'm not 100% sure what case to buy for it. I've had a KBDFans Tofu in the past, and I wasn't thrilled with it. I already have some Rama and other higher end boards, as well as an NK65, so I know a traymount / stock PCB combo isn't going to compare.

    Still, let me know if you have a recommendation for a premium standard 60% case that I might not know about. Thanks in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Julia on Mon, 08 June 2020, 08:33:52
    Hi, got a couple questions.

    I recently have the opportunity to buy a Northgate Omni 102 with blue alps. What's a good price for it? The seller is offering 150 but I'm unfamiliar with the pricing. Also if that's not the best price, what are other boards listed in deskthority would be good for a blue alps board? Lastly, are their any specific areas for alps keycaps and any good groupbuy boards that have alps compatibility?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Fri, 12 June 2020, 11:42:33
    Quote from: Julia on Mon, 08 June 2020, 08:33:52
    Hi, got a couple questions.

    I recently have the opportunity to buy a Northgate Omni 102 with blue alps. What's a good price for it? The seller is offering 150 but I'm unfamiliar with the pricing. Also if that's not the best price, what are other boards listed in deskthority would be good for a blue alps board? Lastly, are their any specific areas for alps keycaps and any good groupbuy boards that have alps compatibility?

    Hell, I'll buy that for 150 (assuming USD). I picked up my Leading Edge DC-2014 for just a bit more. I'm having a harder time finding decent blue alps, so I wouldn't pass up a board at the price (regardless if it's the "best" price)

    Re, interesting ALPs groups buys over the horizon: Hiney's DCS WoB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102206.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: XIII_AJS on Wed, 17 June 2020, 01:43:59
    I need a PCB for a TKL size, i am new to building keyboards but i am looking at the XD87 hot swap https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33028638867.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000023.2.409aefbdeSXe7Q (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33028638867.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000023.2.409aefbdeSXe7Q) and i am wondering if i solder lights to it would i be able to control themb (change colors) or will they only have one color depending on the LED i buy. Thank you
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 11:59:59
    Quote from: XIII_AJS on Wed, 17 June 2020, 01:43:59
    I need a PCB for a TKL size, i am new to building keyboards but i am looking at the XD87 hot swap https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33028638867.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000023.2.409aefbdeSXe7Q (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33028638867.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000023.2.409aefbdeSXe7Q) and i am wondering if i solder lights to it would i be able to control themb (change colors) or will they only have one color depending on the LED i buy. Thank you

    Here's what it looks like to me just from the pictures at your link:
    - There are RGB LEDs presoldered to the bottom of the board. These will provide underglow (which may be easy or difficult to see depending on your case), but will not illuminate individual keys.
    - There are through-hole pads for per-switch LEDs, with two pins per LED. In nearly all cases, this means you can only install single-colour LEDs (some boards are compatible with bi-colour LEDs, which can be driven in either direction, but it doesn't look like that's the case for this board).

    If the pictures are wrong, it could be anything! As an aside, if you're building a keyboard, make sure you pick a case that's physically compatible with your chosen PCB -- i.e. that the mounting holes and USB port cutout are in the appropriate places.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddrfraser1 on Mon, 22 June 2020, 09:57:15
    Didn't I see this in an IC or GB thread recently? What keyboard is this? Thanks.

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 22 June 2020, 11:05:50
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Mon, 22 June 2020, 09:57:15
    Didn't I see this in an IC or GB thread recently? What keyboard is this? Thanks.

    (Attachment Link)

    That's a Keycult No. 2 Rev. 1 in grey top, brass bottom. Retailed for $850-900.

    https://keycult.io/pages/no-2-rev-1-preorder-information

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: digi on Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:47:41
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    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nkrlz on Thu, 25 June 2020, 08:28:18
    I have an IBM model M (part number 1391401) which came with a detachable PS/2 cable (grey round badge on the left side), i broke a trace on it, the rest of the keyboard works perfectly. I just bought an older Model M (model number 1390120) which came with a detachable DIN cable (no status lights and square metal badge on the right).

    For what i have read it should be perfectly possible to use a passive DIN-to-PS2 adapter to connect the older keyboard to a "modern"standard.

    So, my question is, its possible to use the PS/2 cable from the part number 1391401 with the part number 1390120 keyboard? (i will eventually make a passive adapter if its possible, i would say buy one but importing anything here is a gamble).

    EDIT: I tested the cable (to be sure i wasn't gonna fry anything) and it works!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddrfraser1 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 14:38:54
    Anybody have an Alice KLE json I could use? It's tricky to get those angles just right.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: uncleaner on Sun, 28 June 2020, 08:14:23
    Does anyone have a good method for lubing ergo clears? I lubed the sliders and stem with tribosys 3204, and if anything they feel less smooth. Kind of rough and gummy.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 28 June 2020, 09:59:06
    Quote from: uncleaner on Sun, 28 June 2020, 08:14:23
    Does anyone have a good method for lubing ergo clears? I lubed the sliders and stem with tribosys 3204, and if anything they feel less smooth. Kind of rough and gummy.

    Gummy sounds like too much lube - remove and clean off a stem and put it back in to see if it feels better (the housing will still be lubed)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: uncleaner on Tue, 30 June 2020, 19:00:58
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sun, 28 June 2020, 09:59:06
    Quote from: uncleaner on Sun, 28 June 2020, 08:14:23
    Does anyone have a good method for lubing ergo clears? I lubed the sliders and stem with tribosys 3204, and if anything they feel less smooth. Kind of rough and gummy.

    Gummy sounds like too much lube - remove and clean off a stem and put it back in to see if it feels better (the housing will still be lubed)
    Thanks, that did the trick, I couldn't get them feeling good until I did an absolute minimal coat on the rails and the whole stem minus the tactile legs. Wish I'd used a thinner lube though, clears have a sharp bump and I don't think 3204 works well with it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mac.n.keys on Mon, 06 July 2020, 04:38:45
    I have just received my DROP ALT with with Kaihua Box White switches a few days ago.
    However keys wobble quite a lot. Is there anything I can do about that?
    Another question:
    Does it make sense to add o-rings to these switches to make them a bit softer?
    I want keep them clicky but I always press the keys all the way down.
    Especially the spacebar is kind of annoying in terms of sound and feeling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kb5674 on Mon, 06 July 2020, 06:49:43
    How to know if a switch is completely worn out or can still be revived, i have some cherry mx blues which won't click anymore, does this mean its totally worn out or it can be repaired/refurbished with some effort?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: greninja on Thu, 09 July 2020, 09:48:02
    hello my first post here
    q1 is there any 3d printable full size cases
    q2 is there a standoff layot standard on full size kb's

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 11 July 2020, 09:11:07
    Quote from: greninja on Thu, 09 July 2020, 09:48:02
    hello my first post here
    q1 is there any 3d printable full size cases

    I believe it's been done before, but don't know if files have been released. The ones I've seen have been assembled from several smaller prints, rather than printed full-size. Easiest would likely to be a tray case, either for PCB-mount switches, or to be compatible with an existing plate. 3D printed plates have also been done, but they tend to be thicker than spec for MX-compatible switches, which makes mounting much more difficult, and you can run into PCB clearance issues if you're not careful.

    A quick search comes up with a bunch of results for 60% tray cases, which it appears can be fit on a larger sized print bed to print in one piece, here's one example:
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91080.0

    Quote from: greninja on Thu, 09 July 2020, 09:48:02
    q2 is there a standoff layot standard on full size kb's

    Not to my knowledge. Other bits are nonstandard as well -- for instance, the spacing between 'blocks' (e.g. gap between number row and f-key row, gap between alphas and nav cluster), and the position of the USB cutout.

    If you're looking at doing a 3D printed case, I'd look at the different aftermarket PCBs available, pick one you like, and do your design based on that board's measurements. I'm not sure off the top of my head where to even find a 104 aftermarket PCB though, perhaps someone else will know.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ♾Ḋḯṩⱥṩẗḝṟ on Mon, 13 July 2020, 05:32:54
    Quote from: kb5674 on Mon, 06 July 2020, 06:49:43
    How to know if a switch is completely worn out or can still be revived, i have some cherry mx blues which won't click anymore, does this mean its totally worn out or it can be repaired/refurbished with some effort?

    Hey kb5674,

    are the blues mounted on a keyboard? Are all switches non clicky?
    I found this thread, maybe it helps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38310.0
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jamster on Mon, 13 July 2020, 06:50:34
    Quote from: mac.n.keys on Mon, 06 July 2020, 04:38:45
    Does it make sense to add o-rings to these switches to make them a bit softer?
    I want keep them clicky but I always press the keys all the way down.
    Especially the spacebar is kind of annoying in terms of sound and feeling.

    O-rings will help with softening bottom out.

    Thick grease on the stabilisers might help with the spacebar sound.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddrfraser1 on Tue, 21 July 2020, 13:15:04
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 14:38:54
    Anybody have an Alice KLE json I could use? It's tricky to get those angles just right.

    Bump (is that allowed on GH?)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Wed, 22 July 2020, 15:22:05
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Tue, 21 July 2020, 13:15:04
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 14:38:54
    Anybody have an Alice KLE json I could use? It's tricky to get those angles just right.

    Bump (is that allowed on GH?)

    This is allowed -- questions sometimes do go unanswered here because nobody sees them, but I think more often it's because either nobody has the answer, or it's not simple enough for this thread.

    If you haven't already, I'd suggest looking through the Alice IC or GB threads, it's possible something was posted there?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Mon, 27 July 2020, 21:56:45
    I know KeyClack is closed for the time being, but are they (or were they) still stocking BKE Redux domes? I've been using mine for about 2 years straight now, and some domes are starting to stick / lose their elasticity.
    Title: Shortest keycap profile?
    Post by: jamster on Tue, 28 July 2020, 04:00:15
    I'm looking for the shortest caps possible, to offset the Dumang DK6 which uses individual raised magnetic capsules to house each switch, which results in the keys being quite high.

    A quick look on the net suggests DCS as a slightly shorter version of Cherry. Seems a bit uncommon, but is this the shortest sculpted profile available?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: coarse on Tue, 28 July 2020, 12:39:48
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 22 July 2020, 15:22:05
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Tue, 21 July 2020, 13:15:04
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 14:38:54
    Anybody have an Alice KLE json I could use? It's tricky to get those angles just right.

    Bump (is that allowed on GH?)

    This is allowed -- questions sometimes do go unanswered here because nobody sees them, but I think more often it's because either nobody has the answer, or it's not simple enough for this thread.

    If you haven't already, I'd suggest looking through the Alice IC or GB threads, it's possible something was posted there?

    alice files are available on GH: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95054.msg2661499#msg2661499

    i remember seeing a kle link of alice and it had weird values that you normally cant get from kle
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddrfraser1 on Tue, 28 July 2020, 13:32:44
    Quote from: coarse on Tue, 28 July 2020, 12:39:48
    Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 22 July 2020, 15:22:05
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Tue, 21 July 2020, 13:15:04
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 14:38:54
    Anybody have an Alice KLE json I could use? It's tricky to get those angles just right.

    Bump (is that allowed on GH?)

    This is allowed -- questions sometimes do go unanswered here because nobody sees them, but I think more often it's because either nobody has the answer, or it's not simple enough for this thread.

    If you haven't already, I'd suggest looking through the Alice IC or GB threads, it's possible something was posted there?

    alice files are available on GH: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95054.msg2661499#msg2661499

    i remember seeing a kle link of alice and it had weird values that you normally cant get from kle

    Thanks! Not sure what to do with a DWG file though. Was expecting a json :/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: coarse on Tue, 28 July 2020, 20:08:59
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Tue, 28 July 2020, 13:32:44
    Thanks! Not sure what to do with a DWG file though. Was expecting a json :/

    didnt you want to get the angles for the alice? you can get it from cad files easily. but iirc, it was around 10 degrees or 12 degrees

    EDIT: i just checked the plate file and it is indeed 12 degrees
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Julia on Thu, 30 July 2020, 20:30:54
    When I see alps switches, there are usually two versions. One is a bit thicker, like this: https://d2rormqr1qwzpz.cloudfront.net/photos/2018/05/06/102136-alps1.jpg

    and then there are skinny ones like this: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qvQAAOSwg4RfIuOv/s-l1600.jpg

    What's the difference between these two?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: coarse on Thu, 30 July 2020, 21:29:15
    Quote from: Julia on Thu, 30 July 2020, 20:30:54
    When I see alps switches, there are usually two versions. One is a bit thicker, like this: https://d2rormqr1qwzpz.cloudfront.net/photos/2018/05/06/102136-alps1.jpg

    and then there are skinny ones like this: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qvQAAOSwg4RfIuOv/s-l1600.jpg

    What's the difference between these two?

    i really dont know much about but the orange one is from the alps skcl/skcm series and the blue one is an smk alps mount switch. both should be compatible with alps keycaps, but i think the smk alps mount ones dont have the same pcb pins as regular alps?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: cspirou on Sun, 02 August 2020, 12:23:31
    Is there a name for the layout with 10 macro keys on the left side? Like the Rama Zenith? I think it was common in vintage keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 04 August 2020, 04:18:46
    Quote from: cspirou on Sun, 02 August 2020, 12:23:31
    Is there a name for the layout with 10 macro keys on the left side? Like the Rama Zenith? I think it was common in vintage keyboards.
    I'd call it 65XT.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ab042896 on Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:05:13
    Does there exist an index/list/database for side profiles or common types of side profiles for various cases?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 06 August 2020, 16:30:50
    Quote from: Julia on Thu, 30 July 2020, 20:30:54

    What's the difference between these two?


    The orange one is "complicated" Alps, one of the very best, in my opinion.

    The blue is not Alps, it is SMK "Alps mount" and is also a very nice switch but harder to work with than Alps.

    https://deskthority.net/wiki/SMK_Alps_mount (https://deskthority.net/wiki/SMK_Alps_mount)


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Surt on Sun, 09 August 2020, 11:17:57
    I have litterly just today got into this custom keyboard stuff and I thought a good place to start would be go looking for different parts, look at prices, materials, types, variations etc... I thought finding a set of black top printed key caps to go on a 60% keyboard would be a simple task but I was quickly proven wrong. Is there any site that sells sets of top printed keys alll in one colour?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 09 August 2020, 12:43:44
    Quote from: Surt on Sun, 09 August 2020, 11:17:57
    Is there any site that sells sets of top printed keys alll in one colour?

    Yes, there are many though you'll probably have to buy a fullsize board's worth and probably in a non-neutral colour.

    With shipping from China taking an age due to Covid a source near home would be good - where in the world are you?  What language and layout (ANSI or ISO) are you looking for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LineReaderUltimate on Sat, 15 August 2020, 00:22:03
    Hello, I have just purchased a Unicomp Ultra Classic, and was wondering if it potentially would fry my board if I were to plug it into my Mac's USB Type-C port (via an adaptor). Is there anything I should be concerned about voltage wise?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 15 August 2020, 07:52:54
    Quote from: LineReaderUltimate on Sat, 15 August 2020, 00:22:03

    Is there anything I should be concerned about voltage wise?


    I don't know about Apple gear, but the "universal" in Universal Serial Bus says that 5 volt DC @ 0.5 amp is the standard electrical specification.

    Later USB iterations made greater current available, but as long as the voltage is its specified 5V, then the device will pull whatever current it needs (if it is available).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hblcats on Sun, 16 August 2020, 17:04:35
    Should I lube (just) the springs in my Alps Oranges with Krytox 105 to try to reduce switch ping? Or is that a bad idea?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Hipyo on Sun, 16 August 2020, 18:59:07
    If I wanted to make a custom deskmat run, where would I go to get it produced?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddrfraser1 on Mon, 17 August 2020, 09:36:40
    Anyone know what keyboard this is? Thanks.

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddrfraser1 on Tue, 18 August 2020, 16:30:48
    Thinking about spray lubing my Steel Series Apex Pro. If I do, will it mess up the Omni point switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: beybladebarti on Mon, 31 August 2020, 20:14:43
    Hey everyone, new member here. I was looking to upgrade to a Leopold FC660C, and was wondering if anyone had any insight into where to get one. I've tried looking for proxy services and such, but I simply cannot find this keyboard. If anyone knows where or how to get one, I would love to know. Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ab042896 on Mon, 31 August 2020, 20:26:11
    Quote from: ddrfraser1 on Mon, 17 August 2020, 09:36:40
    Anyone know what keyboard this is? Thanks.

    (Attachment Link)
    Duck TC-V3  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CarnageHimura on Fri, 04 September 2020, 11:17:16
    Can I use the "bag technique" to lube springs with Kritox 205g0 or this only work with more liquid lubes?

    Thank you in advance!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 04 September 2020, 11:22:33
    Quote from: beybladebarti on Mon, 31 August 2020, 20:14:43
    Hey everyone, new member here. I was looking to upgrade to a Leopold FC660C, and was wondering if anyone had any insight into where to get one. I've tried looking for proxy services and such, but I simply cannot find this keyboard. If anyone knows where or how to get one, I would love to know. Thank you!
    Not sure where in the world you are but https://mechanicalkeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=170) has some in the USA and this one (https://www.ebay.co.uk/c/24005522735) is on ebay in the UK (I have no experience with this seller, mk.com is legit)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ForestFairyForestFun on Wed, 09 September 2020, 01:16:03
    is there a name for that gap that i loathe on 60% keyboards?
    It's that gap between right control and the left arrow key.

    im new here,
    thanks in advance

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mustardgreens on Fri, 11 September 2020, 11:56:31
    I am designing a product for a future GB and would like a bit of guidance. Is there a guide for making an IC and is there a discord for makers? Tried searching but to no avail... thanks!  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mustardgreens on Fri, 11 September 2020, 11:58:50
    Quote from: ForestFairyForestFun on Wed, 09 September 2020, 01:16:03
    is there a name for that gap that i loathe on 60% keyboards?
    It's that gap between right control and the left arrow key.

    im new here,
    thanks in advance

    I think you may be mistaken, as there are no arrow keys on a 60% keyboard. Can you give an example of the board you're referring to? Some gaps are called 'blockers' if they block off a keyswitch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ajx on Sat, 26 September 2020, 12:44:02
    Hey, i am looking for the biggest battery for Anne Pro 2, 3.7v, does anyone know where i can buy it?
    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kebn on Mon, 28 September 2020, 21:24:28
    Quote from: CarnageHimura on Fri, 04 September 2020, 11:17:16
    Can I use the "bag technique" to lube springs with Kritox 205g0 or this only work with more liquid lubes?

    Thank you in advance!

    Common recommendation is lubricant "oils" like krytox 105/106, or PTFE Superlube 510xx product line with bag lubing. The thicker lubricants wont spread and coat all of the springs in the bag as easily.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sethosaurus on Tue, 29 September 2020, 10:54:24
    So I'm using a DZ60RGB V2 PCB, and the BIOS/firmware resets any time the keyboard is unplugged. This happen with just the base PCB, so I know it's not something shorting out or the reset button getting pressed by mistake. Reflashing the keyboard resolves the issue until it's unplugged again, but for whatever reason it won't retain the firmware. I've contacted KBDFans, who aren't much help, and they basically told me to reflash it. Any ideas/recommendations?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hellomyselftrick on Tue, 29 September 2020, 22:34:50
    The "c" key on my Unicomp doesn't actuate properly after a move. It buckles, but only after it's been bottomed out all the way with force. I took off the keycap and tried reseating it several times with the keyboard tilted forwards, backwards, upside down, and it still has the same issue. I removed and reseated the spring with the "Chopstick of death" technique I found here. No dice. The only thing I notice about it compared to a working key (x) is that the spring naturally rests against the back side of the barrel instead of the center, shown in the picture. Every other key on the keyboard is just fine.

    Any ideas? I don't want to have to bolt mod it but if it's what has to be done I'll find the time.

    Please excuse the absolute filth on the keyboard in the picture. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 30 September 2020, 07:39:16
    I suspect that the pivot plate has jumped out of its seat. If you can If you can press straight down and shift it laterally toward the center, you may be able to get it back into place. There are 2 slots or depressions that the "ears" sit it.

    Otherwise, the bolt mod is the sure fix.











    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hellomyselftrick on Sun, 04 October 2020, 22:10:23
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 30 September 2020, 07:39:16
    I suspect that the pivot plate has jumped out of its seat. If you can If you can press straight down and shift it laterally toward the center, you may be able to get it back into place. There are 2 slots or depressions that the "ears" sit it.

    Otherwise, the bolt mod is the sure fix.

    I fixed it by holding the keyboard upside down and just finangling the pivot plate with a pair of tweezers, then snapping the key in. I was expecting the pivot plate to "snap" into place but I guess it just sits in there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 02:38:10
    KMAC 1 angle is 11 degrees, right?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glenn315 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:45:09
    Hi, I've read and heard that is it recommended to replace the springs on Alpaca switches. Can anybody give thoughts on this and recommend a spring weight if they can? Thank you. Always grateful for this community.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:46:12
    Quote from: Glenn315 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:45:09
    Hi, I've read and heard that is it recommended to replace the springs on Alpaca switches. Can anybody give thoughts on this and recommend a spring weight if they can? Thank you. Always grateful for this community.

    The Alpaca springs are fine. I personally really like the 62g they have. You can bag-lube them using Krytox 105 or VPF1514 or Victorinox Multi-Tool Oil.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Glenn315 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:50:43
    Quote from: LightningXI on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:46:12
    Quote from: Glenn315 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:45:09
    Hi, I've read and heard that is it recommended to replace the springs on Alpaca switches. Can anybody give thoughts on this and recommend a spring weight if they can? Thank you. Always grateful for this community.

    The Alpaca springs are fine. I personally really like the 62g they have. You can bag-lube them using Krytox 105 or VPF1514 or Victorinox Multi-Tool Oil.

    All right thanks for your opinion. You responded so fast haha.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: FlaminFingers on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:58:18
    Hi guys, I've been on the hunt for any keyboards that may have ALPs browns, and I came upon a few such as this ebay post https://www.ebay.com/itm/Texas-Instruments-Professional-Computer-Vintage-PC-Alternative-Rare/254568688608?hash=item3b4579ebe0:g:XxYAAOSwHt9elPd0


    Or this other ebay post: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Well-Equiped-Texas-Instruments-Professional-Computer-Color-monitor-KB-Software/284048936351?hash=item4222a2cd9f:g:EfYAAOSwFkxfigGW

    These two keyboards are very similar to the Texas Instruments low profile keyboard that harbors the brown alps, however this model has an offset caps-lock light versus the original brown alps model having a centered caps lock light, as seen in this GH post (the first reply): https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64966.0.

    Can someone confirm that these keyboards that have a different caps lock key come with ALPs switches, or has anyone ever had any experience with these TI low profile keyboards? I would love to have some info on these.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 24 October 2020, 12:42:31
    Quote from: FlaminFingers on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:58:18
    Hi guys, I've been on the hunt for any keyboards that may have ALPs browns, and I came upon a few such as this ebay post https://www.ebay.com/itm/Texas-Instruments-Professional-Computer-Vintage-PC-Alternative-Rare/254568688608?hash=item3b4579ebe0:g:XxYAAOSwHt9elPd0


    Or this other ebay post: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Well-Equiped-Texas-Instruments-Professional-Computer-Color-monitor-KB-Software/284048936351?hash=item4222a2cd9f:g:EfYAAOSwFkxfigGW

    These two keyboards are very similar to the Texas Instruments low profile keyboard that harbors the brown alps, however this model has an offset caps-lock light versus the original brown alps model having a centered caps lock light, as seen in this GH post (the first reply): https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64966.0.

    Can someone confirm that these keyboards that have a different caps lock key come with ALPs switches, or has anyone ever had any experience with these TI low profile keyboards? I would love to have some info on these.

    Well first things first, have you asked the seller to try and pop off a cap (kinda like turning the computer on and off, it seems dumb but people forget sometimes lol)?

    While I don't have any hard evidence (or much information honestly, TI boards outside of the TI 99 aren't the most well-documented) it appears that the only switches that TI is documented to have used in past that had LED slots in the corner rather than the center of the switches are Mitsumi's (https://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Mitsumi_std_2AM_latching_--_top.jpg) (should be noted that the 99 used KSD Mitsumi's (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Mitsumi_KSD_Type) which these are obviously not, so this is connecting TI to Mitsumi in general, not specific). What's weird is that with every board I've seen them on, the LED was on the top left, not right. But it's pretty common for old boards to flip their switches upside-down and sideways, so that doesn't exactly rule them out. It should also be noted that some low profile TIs with brown alpshad these weird, square-post mounts (https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=17569&start=), though those boards didn't appear to have any integrated LEDs at all. But with how much those TIs are listed for, I wouldn't exactly want to take that chance, especially considering how mediocre/easy to find Mistumi's are.

    Another weird thing is that a lot TI low profiles that people have found with regular brown alps don't seem to have labels on the bottom, just a space where one would go.

    Does anyone with more alps knowledge know if they ever used keycaps with LED holes that were offset from the switch's LED for no particular reason?

    And if you don't get a better answer here, I would consider just making this question its own thread. Also, have you tried asking on DT? Considering the first board you posted has a broken switch that's missing its top (https://i.imgur.com/Et2a7g9.png), someone could probably identify it by the internals
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 24 October 2020, 15:22:49
    What is the proper size for stand off to screw in a plate directly on a sixty's tray? Is it a 3mm M2 stand off?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 24 October 2020, 15:27:27
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 24 October 2020, 15:22:49
    What is the proper size for stand off to screw in a plate directly on a sixty's tray? Is it a 3mm M2 stand off?
    It definitely is m2 but I'm not sure about the depth/length
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Sat, 24 October 2020, 15:37:03
    Quote from: LightningXI on Sat, 24 October 2020, 15:27:27
    Quote from: ideus on Sat, 24 October 2020, 15:22:49
    What is the proper size for stand off to screw in a plate directly on a sixty's tray? Is it a 3mm M2 stand off?
    It definitely is m2 but I'm not sure about the depth/length


    Dear Light, thank you for the confirmation, I would give 3+3 and 3+4 a try?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LordHaveMercy on Sun, 25 October 2020, 22:13:51
    Anyone here know when this D65 from KBDFans will be shipping after orders are done on October 30?

    https://kbdfans.com/collections/diy-kit/products/icd65-mechanical-keyboard-kit?variant=34255494054027

    Edit: I guess I should also ask if this is something that won't be shipping for many months to come, if there's a DIY kit available for purchase now and can be shipped within a few weeks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 27 October 2020, 15:17:22
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 02:38:10
    KMAC 1 angle is 11 degrees, right?

    I think it's actually closer to 10 degrees.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 27 October 2020, 16:47:10
    Quote from: LightningXI on Tue, 27 October 2020, 15:17:22
    Quote from: hwood34 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 02:38:10
    KMAC 1 angle is 11 degrees, right?

    I think it's actually closer to 10 degrees.

    ty  :-*
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rholeros on Sat, 31 October 2020, 12:33:51
    Are Leopold Keyboards still suffering from Rattle in the Spacebar? I’ve heard that they have been having quality control issues last year...

    I really want  to buy one, but I’d rather pick a Varmilo VA87M if the rattle in the Leopold 450R is going to be there.

    :(
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Teriyako on Wed, 04 November 2020, 07:53:40
    Does anybody know any Frankenstein switches that require cream bottom housing also how do alpaca creams feels
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rozilla on Thu, 05 November 2020, 17:47:38
    Anyone know where can I find those metal PS/2 connectors? (I already checked mouser, yarbo and amazon)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 06 November 2020, 11:38:16
    Quote from: rozilla on Thu, 05 November 2020, 17:47:38
    Anyone know where can I find those metal PS/2 connectors? (I already checked mouser, yarbo and amazon)

    Got a link somewhere to an example of what you mean?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rrrifle6 on Tue, 10 November 2020, 19:18:00
    Hello, today I changed a broken switch, at the moment I was changing it, i didn't have a desolder pump so to get the switch loose I used the solder tip and pushed towards the pcb, that ended badly, two small copper circles came out of the holes where the switch contacts should be soldered and one of them had kinda a very very tiny coper wire that just peeled of off the pcb, i really don't know what to do, if you know where I can submit this to get any help it would be appreciated.
    Image of the pcb where this happened: https://ibb.co/dDFyXFP
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Tue, 10 November 2020, 19:58:44
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Tue, 10 November 2020, 19:18:00
    Hello, today I changed a broken switch, at the moment I was changing it, i didn't have a desolder pump so to get the switch loose I used the solder tip and pushed towards the pcb, that ended badly, two small copper circles came out of the holes where the switch contacts should be soldered and one of them had kinda a very very tiny coper wire that just peeled of off the pcb, i really don't know what to do, if you know where I can submit this to get any help it would be appreciated.
    Image of the pcb where this happened: https://ibb.co/dDFyXFP
    Welcome to geekhack :)

    You can solder a wire (any will do) between the bottom switch pin and the top left pin of D52, you can see the trace this replaces.  For the other pin you could carefully scrape the green mask off the drop shape bit around the via (tiny hole) at the end of the trace and solder to that, or for an easier and stronger fix short (touch with anything conductive) the upper pin of nearby switches to the lower pin on the one you replaced until you get the right key output then solder from that pin to the damaged one.

    If that made no sense let me know and I'll fire up paint in the morning and add coloured dots if you've not got it fixed, it's easier to do than to write about!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rrrifle6 on Tue, 10 November 2020, 20:25:25
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Tue, 10 November 2020, 19:58:44
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Tue, 10 November 2020, 19:18:00
    Hello, today I changed a broken switch, at the moment I was changing it, i didn't have a desolder pump so to get the switch loose I used the solder tip and pushed towards the pcb, that ended badly, two small copper circles came out of the holes where the switch contacts should be soldered and one of them had kinda a very very tiny coper wire that just peeled of off the pcb, i really don't know what to do, if you know where I can submit this to get any help it would be appreciated.
    Image of the pcb where this happened: https://ibb.co/dDFyXFP
    Welcome to geekhack :)

    You can solder a wire (any will do) between the bottom switch pin and the top left pin of D52, you can see the trace this replaces.  For the other pin you could carefully scrape the green mask off the drop shape bit around the via (tiny hole) at the end of the trace and solder to that, or for an easier and stronger fix short (touch with anything conductive) the upper pin of nearby switches to the lower pin on the one you replaced until you get the right key output then solder from that pin to the damaged one.

    If that made no sense let me know and I'll fire up paint in the morning and add coloured dots if you've not got it fixed, it's easier to do than to write about!
    Okay, here in argentina is 23:30 pm, tommorow by the morning im gonna try this, i have two questions, should i scratch the whole drop shape thing or just that tiny little dot in the middle? what tool would you use in this case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ab042896 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 00:26:21
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Tue, 10 November 2020, 20:25:25
    Okay, here in argentina is 23:30 pm, tommorow by the morning im gonna try this, i have two questions, should i scratch the whole drop shape thing or just that tiny little dot in the middle? what tool would you use in this case?
    This is a good reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IivDkrp6U&ab_channel=skiwithpete (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IivDkrp6U&ab_channel=skiwithpete)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rrrifle6 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 10:56:44
    Quote from: ab042896 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 00:26:21
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Tue, 10 November 2020, 20:25:25
    Okay, here in argentina is 23:30 pm, tommorow by the morning im gonna try this, i have two questions, should i scratch the whole drop shape thing or just that tiny little dot in the middle? what tool would you use in this case?
    This is a good reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IivDkrp6U&ab_channel=skiwithpete (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IivDkrp6U&ab_channel=skiwithpete)
    so the smartest thing to do is check if any of the spacebar surrounding switches will give me the imput i want and then solder?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 11 November 2020, 11:03:56
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 10:56:44
    Quote from: ab042896 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 00:26:21
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Tue, 10 November 2020, 20:25:25
    Okay, here in argentina is 23:30 pm, tommorow by the morning im gonna try this, i have two questions, should i scratch the whole drop shape thing or just that tiny little dot in the middle? what tool would you use in this case?
    This is a good reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IivDkrp6U&ab_channel=skiwithpete (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IivDkrp6U&ab_channel=skiwithpete)
    so the smartest thing to do is check if any of the spacebar surrounding switches will give me the imput i want and then solder?

    Yes, it's a bigger target to solder to and you're less likely to knock it off while putting the board back in the case.

    If the guy in the video had any sense he would be shorting the other pin on the broken switch rather than shorting the broken side and trying to press it from underneath.  Other than that it's the right method.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rrrifle6 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 13:57:17
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Wed, 11 November 2020, 11:03:56
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 10:56:44
    Quote from: ab042896 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 00:26:21
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Tue, 10 November 2020, 20:25:25
    Okay, here in argentina is 23:30 pm, tommorow by the morning im gonna try this, i have two questions, should i scratch the whole drop shape thing or just that tiny little dot in the middle? what tool would you use in this case?
    This is a good reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IivDkrp6U&ab_channel=skiwithpete (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IivDkrp6U&ab_channel=skiwithpete)
    so the smartest thing to do is check if any of the spacebar surrounding switches will give me the imput i want and then solder?

    Yes, it's a bigger target to solder to and you're less likely to knock it off while putting the board back in the case.

    If the guy in the video had any sense he would be shorting the other pin on the broken switch rather than shorting the broken side and trying to press it from underneath.  Other than that it's the right method.
    i think shorting it won't work, as I said, there are no coper traces in my pcb that go into the space bar switch, shorting other keys would work but when I touch my space bar lower pin and short it with another key it won't do anything, i burnt the copper stuff yesterday while trying to desolder a broken switch, here's an image: https://ibb.co/P5MJBzG
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 11 November 2020, 15:34:27
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 13:57:17
    i think shorting it won't work, as I said, there are no coper traces in my pcb that go into the space bar switch, shorting other keys would work but when I touch my space bar lower pin and short it with another key it won't do anything, i burnt the copper stuff yesterday while trying to desolder a broken switch, here's an image: https://ibb.co/P5MJBzG

    You need to fix the bottom pad first so put the switch in then solder a wire between the red and orange dots to reconnect the diode.  Try and fill the hole with solder even if it's not connected to anything to stop the switch wobbling (don't worry about this if the switch clips in to the plate)

    Then plug in the USB and short the cyan dots to the red one - one of them should type a space.  If it doesn't that means the diodes connect the columns so try the top pin of either Alt key.  I would be very surprised if it's none of those...  When you've found the right one disconnect the USB and solder a wire between that pin and the pink dot and the switch will work again :)

    [attach=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rrrifle6 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 17:40:21
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Wed, 11 November 2020, 15:34:27
    Quote from: rrrifle6 on Wed, 11 November 2020, 13:57:17
    i think shorting it won't work, as I said, there are no coper traces in my pcb that go into the space bar switch, shorting other keys would work but when I touch my space bar lower pin and short it with another key it won't do anything, i burnt the copper stuff yesterday while trying to desolder a broken switch, here's an image: https://ibb.co/P5MJBzG

    You need to fix the bottom pad first so put the switch in then solder a wire between the red and orange dots to reconnect the diode.  Try and fill the hole with solder even if it's not connected to anything to stop the switch wobbling (don't worry about this if the switch clips in to the plate)

    Then plug in the USB and short the cyan dots to the red one - one of them should type a space.  If it doesn't that means the diodes connect the columns so try the top pin of either Alt key.  I would be very surprised if it's none of those...  When you've found the right one disconnect the USB and solder a wire between that pin and the pink dot and the switch will work again :)

    (Attachment Link)
    I solved it!!! my guess was that in order to get an output i should resolder my lower pin to the D52 diode, as soon as i did that i got the input that i needed but as soon as i shorted and touched both pins it would type "space" infinitely, so i scratched that drop shapped thing and found "gold" or in this case copper lol, so i got another mini copper wire and tinned it in both ends and soldered the upper pin to that drop thing and voila, it worked perfectly fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 13 November 2020, 08:03:15
    Quote from: rozilla on Thu, 05 November 2020, 17:47:38
    Anyone know where can I find those metal PS/2 connectors? (I already checked mouser, yarbo and amazon)

    try taobao
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Erisie on Sat, 14 November 2020, 21:08:53
    A friend of mine recently bolt-modded my old Model M. The old barrel frame was broken, so we ordered a new one from Unicomp. Some keys on the ZXC row (X, B and sometimes N) are registering two keypresses from time to time.

    What's causing this behaviour? Overtight bolts? Faulty membrane? Broken hammer springs? I also replaced the controller board for a new one.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 14 November 2020, 21:14:30
    Quote from: Erisie on Sat, 14 November 2020, 21:08:53

    Overtight bolts?


    That would be my first guess. You have replaced small shafts of soft plastic with steel. I never tighten more than "barely finger tight" because you only need to re-create the original state, not exceed it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Alga on Tue, 17 November 2020, 05:58:54
    Can some clear for me the difference between EC and MX?

    I was looking at this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109635.0;topicseen (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109635.0;topicseen) and there is EC all over the place.

    I am confused because there is specific EC plate and PCB but from the housing of the switches the contacts seem the same.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Tue, 17 November 2020, 18:38:10
    Quote from: Alga on Tue, 17 November 2020, 05:58:54
    Can some clear for me the difference between EC and MX?

    I was looking at this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109635.0;topicseen (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109635.0;topicseen) and there is EC all over the place.

    I am confused because there is specific EC plate and PCB but from the housing of the switches the contacts seem the same.

    From what I've read, the difference is not in the physical arrangement of the switch pins, but in how the controller reads out the matrix. MX & compatible switches make an electrical connection between two contacts when the switch is actuated, but the EC switches don't ever bring the two contacts together. Instead, depressing the switch moves two parallel plates closer together, changing the capacitance of the circuit (more similar to how Topre switches work electrically). I'd guess that you could physically replace a MX switch with an EC switch without trouble, until you actually wanted a keypress to register.

    Getting the keys to work would require more a complex controller and firmware than a standard MX or compatible switch, since capacitive sensing of an EC switch would require analog reads, configuration of thresholds, etc., while MX-compatible switches use simpler digital logic and the controller's standard logic thresholds. It might be possible to replace the controller on a MX-compatible board with a capacitive one, but things like trace layout can have more of an impact.

    You may be interested in the info in this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94239.0
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Madrossi9 on Mon, 23 November 2020, 22:04:02
    Whick one would you buy? (Quality wise)
    Keychron K8 aluminum hot swappable/ Gateron browns / new PTB keycaps

    Or

    GMMK Glorious hot swappable board / Glorious Panda switch / Glorious Aura key cap (PBT, pudding)

    Or

    DUCKY ONE 2 RGB

    Same price  around A$200

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jaratic on Tue, 24 November 2020, 01:57:26
    What are the different types of hotswap sockets available? (like the Gateron, Kalih sockets) And what are the switches that support those hotswap sockets?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: w2312 on Thu, 26 November 2020, 23:50:35
    Is there any difference in quality between the translucent keycaps(pudding) from KBDfabs and the aura keycaps from GMMK?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SmoothFaces on Sun, 29 November 2020, 19:04:53
    Thank  you so much for all this answers. Really helps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: retoid on Thu, 03 December 2020, 11:33:50
    Would anyone happen to know of any DSA caps I could get in darker colors to replace these two ALT and CTRL keycaps on the Leopold FC980M?
    I've got some DSA Dolch Double Shot keys coming but they do not include these sizes.

    (https://i.imgur.com/YYq2L8w.png)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 03 December 2020, 12:20:50
    Quote from: retoid on Thu, 03 December 2020, 11:33:50
    Would anyone happen to know of any DSA caps I could get in darker colors to replace these two ALT and CTRL keycaps on the Leopold FC980M?
    I've got some DSA Dolch Double Shot keys coming but they do not include these sizes.

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/YYq2L8w.png)


    SP sells single DSA caps in a wide variety of colours, you may be able to find a match: https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-1-space-pack-of-10/
    E: can also order dyesub singles: https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-individual-keys-sublimated/
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: retoid on Thu, 03 December 2020, 12:31:59
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 03 December 2020, 12:20:50
    Quote from: retoid on Thu, 03 December 2020, 11:33:50
    Would anyone happen to know of any DSA caps I could get in darker colors to replace these two ALT and CTRL keycaps on the Leopold FC980M?
    I've got some DSA Dolch Double Shot keys coming but they do not include these sizes.

    Show Image
    (https://i.imgur.com/YYq2L8w.png)


    SP sells single DSA caps in a wide variety of colours, you may be able to find a match: https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-1-space-pack-of-10/
    E: can also order dyesub singles: https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-individual-keys-sublimated/

    Awesome! Thank you so much, that should be perfect.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Urthor on Wed, 09 December 2020, 03:53:10
    Anyone know about repairing water damage on a 2011 Realforce/Topre PCB? 

    I dumped a whole bunch of water on mine and the capacitor for the 5 and F4 keys are not responding, despite stripping the board down to the PCB and no obvious residue. 

    Whether using the spring or my finger the contacts refuse to register.  I haven't used any electrical cleaner or alcohol yet and I still have the option of waiting a week for the board to dry out and pray.

     but if anyone knows any other tricks for fixing water damage in integrated circuits I'd really appreciate it. 

    https://i.imgur.com/cAIhr.jpg for reference this is what a Topre switch looks like w/o the dome. 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spunc1 on Tue, 15 December 2020, 07:05:35
    I'm trying to find something as close to Smith and Rune Iron165 as possible. That board is absolutely gorgeous and I cannot stop thinking about it. I don't have $2200 to drop on it at mechmarket either so I'll have to find a middle ground, but it's hard to find.

    https://cannonkeys.com/products/gb-smith-rune-iron165-keyboard
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:38:35
    you have to use the diffuser/gasket with the TX1800 v2 case right? I like the v1 look without one far more.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: KeyRelic on Thu, 24 December 2020, 10:33:38
    Are Novelties keys in GMK GB sets also double shot?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Learis on Tue, 29 December 2020, 23:09:59
    I just noticed that some keysets release with this random "B" key that is in the same row as the spacebar. What is that meant for?

    Edit: Nevermind, it seems to just be an extra B key for those split keyboard layouts, makes sense.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 31 December 2020, 07:10:57
    Quote from: KeyRelic on Thu, 24 December 2020, 10:33:38
    Are Novelties keys in GMK GB sets also double shot?
    Normally, yes, if they're indeed only two color.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Faill on Mon, 04 January 2021, 00:19:17
    I want to build a keyboard but I use the numpad on my keyboard all the time. I was wondering if there is a way to build a high quality keyboard while also having a numpad. Are there any nice cases/pcbs for full sized keyboards? What about for numpads?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yqqdrasil on Mon, 04 January 2021, 08:46:18
    Is desoldering in-switch LEDs and resoldering them a bad idea? I know it's possible but I'm assuming it's not best practice as the wires are clipped & I might solder +/- in the wrong orientation or maybe for some other reason I can't think of at the moment.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ab042896 on Wed, 06 January 2021, 22:33:52
    Quote from: yqqdrasil on Mon, 04 January 2021, 08:46:18
    Is desoldering in-switch LEDs and resoldering them a bad idea? I know it's possible but I'm assuming it's not best practice as the wires are clipped & I might solder +/- in the wrong orientation or maybe for some other reason I can't think of at the moment.
    I would say it depends how close they are clipped to the surface of the PCB. Also depending on the LED, you might be able to detect orientation by looking through the lens at the anvil and post arrangement (the opposite ends of the cathode and anode "wires" that are located within the LED's lens).
    Another option entirely is to simply purchase new LEDs to replace your old ones. There are several LED form factors that are compatible with MX switches, and they can run as little as a 10 cents a piece to as little as couple cents per piece, especially if you source them through Digikey, Mouser, etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ab042896 on Wed, 06 January 2021, 22:38:32
    Do R5 cherry profile spacebars exist in any capacity?

    I like R5 but R4 spacebars look silly next to an otherwise completely R5 row of keycaps IMO
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Wed, 06 January 2021, 23:38:11
    Quote from: ab042896 on Wed, 06 January 2021, 22:38:32
    Do R5 cherry profile spacebars exist in any capacity?

    I like R5 but R4 spacebars look silly next to an otherwise completely R5 row of keycaps IMO


    I have some OG Cherry sets that have R5 bottom row and the profile of their space bars are the same as other sets with R4 bottom row mods. Based on that, I may conclude that there is no such thing as an R5 space bar design.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Learis on Wed, 06 January 2021, 23:43:30
    I'm about to get some durock silent switches in. Is it safe to lube the dampening pads or should I be meticulous in avoiding them? Also, I had a small amount of tribosys 3204 and Krytox 205g0 left so I decided to mix both into one new concoction. I didn't bother to think whether some chemical reaction between the two would ruin them in some way. Is it safe to do this or does it ruin the lubricant?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 07 January 2021, 09:11:33
    Quote from: ideus on Wed, 06 January 2021, 23:38:11
    Quote from: ab042896 on Wed, 06 January 2021, 22:38:32
    Do R5 cherry profile spacebars exist in any capacity?

    I like R5 but R4 spacebars look silly next to an otherwise completely R5 row of keycaps IMO


    I have some OG Cherry sets that have R5 bottom row and the profile of their space bars are the same as other sets with R4 bottom row mods. Based on that, I may conclude that there is no such thing as an R5 space bar design.
    This is correct. There's no specific profile for spacebars. Spacebars are simply just their own kind of convex keys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yqqdrasil on Thu, 07 January 2021, 13:23:33
    Quote from: ab042896 on Wed, 06 January 2021, 22:33:52
    Quote from: yqqdrasil on Mon, 04 January 2021, 08:46:18
    Is desoldering in-switch LEDs and resoldering them a bad idea? I know it's possible but I'm assuming it's not best practice as the wires are clipped & I might solder +/- in the wrong orientation or maybe for some other reason I can't think of at the moment.
    I would say it depends how close they are clipped to the surface of the PCB. Also depending on the LED, you might be able to detect orientation by looking through the lens at the anvil and post arrangement (the opposite ends of the cathode and anode "wires" that are located within the LED's lens).
    Another option entirely is to simply purchase new LEDs to replace your old ones. There are several LED form factors that are compatible with MX switches, and they can run as little as a 10 cents a piece to as little as couple cents per piece, especially if you source them through Digikey, Mouser, etc.
    Thanks, the board currently has 2x3x4 box type LEDs (according to the FAQ). I know theres issues with different LED sizes and clearance from certain keycap profiles, if I were to buy new LEDs should I buy the same box type ones? I didn't seem to have any issue with OEM/Cherry caps using the 2x3x4 ones my Terminus 2 came with.

    I guess these might work:
    https://www.amazon.com/Chanzon-100pcs-colors-Emitting-Assorted/dp/B01AUI4W0U/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=2x3x4%2BBlue%2BLED&qid=1610047215&sr=8-2&th=1
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: chordsplitter on Fri, 08 January 2021, 06:01:43
    2 questions:

    what combo of plate/case material/keycap profile/switches would get me a super deep sound out of my keyboard?
    Are there any cases similar to the S7 elephant that I can acquire? (chunky bezels)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Neprawdda on Mon, 11 January 2021, 11:44:47
    Good day. I want to make my own cable. But I don't know what it's called. To buy.
    And if anyone knows in advance thanks, where you can buy it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kalzu on Wed, 13 January 2021, 02:03:00
    Hi,

    I'm going to be building Ergodone. I just seem unable to find any build guides on it. So any information about it would be highly appreciated.

    First and foremost, have I understanded correctly that I should use 5V Pro Micro?

    Thanks,
     -K
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: paashaas on Thu, 14 January 2021, 04:36:49
    I am searching where I can, but I cannot find 80% 87 key keyboard case.
    I am new so I am searching for a relative cheap one, where can I possibly find these?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noverbeck80 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 05:45:12
    I have a B.face PCB and case that I'd like to deconstruct and put in another case. I don't care for the sandwich design. Does anyone know if the PCB is standard 60% and compatible with most plates and cases? Most likely looking at the KBDFans TOFU
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whezil on Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:01:53
    Has anyone ever tried to make a full metal(aluminium/brass etc) switch either by using molds or CNC and been successful?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 17:51:16
    Quote from: whezil on Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:01:53
    Has anyone ever tried to make a full metal(aluminium/brass etc) switch either by using molds or CNC and been successful?

    You mean where the stem, housing, and everything are all metal? I can't see how that would work electrically, at the very least you would need some insulating material between two pieces that are supposed to make contact, or change capacitance, or however you want such a switch to trigger.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: whezil on Mon, 18 January 2021, 23:54:40
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 17:51:16
    Quote from: whezil on Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:01:53
    Has anyone ever tried to make a full metal(aluminium/brass etc) switch either by using molds or CNC and been successful?

    You mean where the stem, housing, and everything are all metal? I can't see how that would work electrically, at the very least you would need some insulating material between two pieces that are supposed to make contact, or change capacitance, or however you want such a switch to trigger.

    Yep, everything. In particular I meant a mechanical switch. If any part were to be made out of aluminium and further anodized then that part would not conduct electricity. So in principle you could replicate an entire switch.
    Title: Help understanding LED indicator’s on PCB’s
    Post by: Millbean on Sat, 23 January 2021, 12:47:11
    For my next board I want to do a stepped caps lock and put in an LED indicator to show when caps is on or off. I have seen a Wildcat video where he kind of does this but it’s not explained at all. In video it looks like he takes little Mill max sockets and solders those to the caps lock position on the board and then puts the switch on the board. He then puts the LED legs through the little slot on the switch and into those mill max sockets on the board.

    Questions:

    1.   Are these positions on the PCB that support through hole LEDS (like Caps lock, scroll lock, etc.) already set up and working when they ship the board to me? Meaning, can I just solder a LED to this position and it will automatically work when toggled on and off?
    2.   If its not already set up by the manufacturer what do I have to do to get it working and can I use VIA to do this.
    3.   On LED, one leg is longer than the other. Which leg goes in which hole. I don’t have a PCB in front of my but I think I remember that one of the LED through holes is in the shape of a square and the other is a circle. Do I put the longer leg through the square hole and the shorter one through the circle? I just don’t know which leg is positive or negative.
    4.   If I cannot use VIA then I assume the only thing to do is use regular QMK and how would I go about programming the LED

    My first board was the Drop Alt and honestly QMK just looked like a headache so every board I got after that I made sure used VIA so I didn’t have to mess with Hex files and flashing boards and all that other crap. Some clear information, or some knowledgeable help on this topic would be greatly appreciated. Or if you know of a good YouTube video to point me to that would help too. Thanks in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Cash on Wed, 27 January 2021, 19:49:52
    I am having some difficulty finding some full sized custom mechs.

    Could anybody help if they know of any? Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jact on Fri, 19 February 2021, 21:46:31
    Hi I am looking for a place where I can buy a board with all the different switches to see which one sounds good and I like. And if I do buy the switches do they ever come out with new ones?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Wed, 24 February 2021, 23:36:09
    Quote from: jact on Fri, 19 February 2021, 21:46:31
    Hi I am looking for a place where I can buy a board with all the different switches to see which one sounds good and I like. And if I do buy the switches do they ever come out with new ones?

    Best bet is likely to get a sampler from various manufacturers. Such as Zeal or Kailh or gateron. To my understanding though, a lot of switches aren't available in sample packs and tend to be one-off group-buy-only type of things. And even group-buys for the same switch tend to have variations.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Wed, 24 February 2021, 23:37:26
    Can anyone recommend me a wood keyboard case maker? I hit up lxkhn on r/mm as well as woodkeys.click and neither got back to me. Trying to get a wood case for Southpaw 65.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: thebossbaby39 on Thu, 25 February 2021, 08:40:30
    I currently have a Varmilo TKL keyboard (Varmilo EC Switch Sea Melody) which I'd like to swap out the PCB. The reason is that I'd like to keep the case and keycaps but change the switches.

    Unfortunately the PCB used for the EC switches are incompatible with MX switches so I can't just desolder it.

    Does anyone know if there are any PCBs that are compatible with the Varmilo TKL cases? Or how I can work around this?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mynome on Thu, 25 February 2021, 16:53:58
    I will lube a switch with a pretty generous amount of lube and it still sounds somewhat scratchy when held up to my ear. I'm new to lubing switches, so i dunno if im doing something wrong, lol.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Leopard223 on Thu, 25 February 2021, 20:47:07
    Quote from: Mynome on Thu, 25 February 2021, 16:53:58
    I will lube a switch with a pretty generous amount of lube and it still sounds somewhat scratchy when held up to my ear. I'm new to lubing switches, so i dunno if im doing something wrong, lol.
    Well it still make contact with the housing/leaf so there will be sound, should sound smoother.

    As long as the switch is smoother then you're fine.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dmi on Fri, 26 February 2021, 19:03:40
    I consider to purchase R2 from Japanese website.

    Are there any differences compare to US keyboard (except layout)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AJPlus on Mon, 08 March 2021, 08:00:13
    Not sure if I'm using the thread right, but I'm pretty new and was thinking of using kbd fans tofu kit, would you say that's a good starting point or should I suck it up and buy a soldering iron

    AJ
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Tue, 09 March 2021, 02:05:43
    Quote from: AJPlus on Mon, 08 March 2021, 08:00:13
    Not sure if I'm using the thread right, but I'm pretty new and was thinking of using kbd fans tofu kit, would you say that's a good starting point or should I suck it up and buy a soldering iron

    AJ

    If you're planning on trying a few different switches hotswap is the way to go, if you know what you want get a soldering iron.  Soldering keyboard switches is an easy first project, desoldering them is where it can go wrong.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Protato on Thu, 11 March 2021, 11:57:12
    Seems like a dumb question, but for the life of me I can't figure this out. How do I change my signature to include a clickable picture of for example:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109342.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109342.0), or https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111516 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111516) ?

    Never really used forums for anything and I feel like asking a question like this clearly shows that.
    Thank you in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: retoid on Thu, 11 March 2021, 13:13:28
    Quote from: Protato on Thu, 11 March 2021, 11:57:12
    Seems like a dumb question, but for the life of me I can't figure this out. How do I change my signature to include a clickable picture of for example:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109342.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109342.0), or https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111516 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111516) ?

    Never really used forums for anything and I feel like asking a question like this clearly shows that.
    Thank you in advance.

    Click on Profile, Summary. Then click Modify Profile. Forum Profile. Scroll down a bit and you will see Signature: This is where you can add information/pics/links in your signature.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Protato on Fri, 12 March 2021, 08:38:50
    Quote from: retoid on Thu, 11 March 2021, 13:13:28
    Quote from: Protato on Thu, 11 March 2021, 11:57:12
    Seems like a dumb question, but for the life of me I can't figure this out. How do I change my signature to include a clickable picture of for example:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109342.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109342.0), or https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111516 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111516) ?

    Never really used forums for anything and I feel like asking a question like this clearly shows that.
    Thank you in advance.

    Click on Profile, Summary. Then click Modify Profile. Forum Profile. Scroll down a bit and you will see Signature: This is where you can add information/pics/links in your signature.

    I've gotten to that part, but for some reason still can't attach a picture.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 12 March 2021, 10:04:01
    Quote from: Protato on Fri, 12 March 2021, 08:38:50
    Quote from: retoid on Thu, 11 March 2021, 13:13:28
    Quote from: Protato on Thu, 11 March 2021, 11:57:12
    Seems like a dumb question, but for the life of me I can't figure this out. How do I change my signature to include a clickable picture of for example:

    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109342.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109342.0), or https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111516 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111516) ?

    Never really used forums for anything and I feel like asking a question like this clearly shows that.
    Thank you in advance.

    Click on Profile, Summary. Then click Modify Profile. Forum Profile. Scroll down a bit and you will see Signature: This is where you can add information/pics/links in your signature.

    I've gotten to that part, but for some reason still can't attach a picture.
    This is correct - you can't attach a picture there.  You could attatch one to a reply in this thread then right click it and 'copy [whatever your browser says that's like address]' then in your signature box you put [ img]paste address here[/img] without the space after the first [ and it will appear.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AJPlus on Mon, 15 March 2021, 13:57:59
    Trying to set up my first group buy, what's the best resource to get me started?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Spookie on Sat, 03 April 2021, 04:03:30
    Is there an 8000 Hz polling rate keyboard pcb?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Wed, 07 April 2021, 00:31:52
    Anyone able to recommend a 60% or hhkb layout with split 7u bar/R shift/backspace?

    I've pretty much ignored 60% for years, but now starting to like it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ddddavidddd on Wed, 07 April 2021, 15:49:32
    Is there a wiki or list somewhere of new & notable keyboard releases?

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Fritz the German on Wed, 21 April 2021, 10:08:03
    I've got the chance to get cheaply a Mitsumi KFK-EA5XA keyboard. Rubber dome, but Deskthority says about the switches: "The illustrated (ideal) force curve is similar to that of Topre switches." (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Mitsumi_KFK_Type).
    Worth a try or would I just waste time?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: x86ect on Mon, 26 April 2021, 06:08:53
    Q: Are FR4 plates durable enough for hotswapping (any issues with chipping/cracking if swapping < 10 times)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Greyson on Mon, 26 April 2021, 23:26:03
    Please help: What thickness of sound dampening (e.g. sorbothane) will fit between frame and PCB of GMMK Pro? (looking to replace existing foam).

    Thank you all!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 27 April 2021, 07:17:00
    Quote from: Greyson on Mon, 26 April 2021, 23:26:03

    What thickness of sound dampening (e.g. sorbothane) will fit between frame and PCB of GMMK Pro?


    I don't know the answer, but you can experiment by cutting pieces of cardboard and stacking them up at the place where the 2 surfaces come closest, and see where you start to feel interference.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yui on Tue, 27 April 2021, 07:28:01
    Quote from: x86ect on Mon, 26 April 2021, 06:08:53
    Q: Are FR4 plates durable enough for hotswapping (any issues with chipping/cracking if swapping < 10 times)?
    kailh rate the sockets at 100 insertions https://www.kailhswitch.com/info/mechanical-keyboard-switches-kailh-pcb-socket-30847668.html
    although most peoples tend to see performances closer to 10 to 20 insertions, and if removed correctly, switches should not put much vertical stress onto the plate, so although all that is theory, i would guess the plate would last longer than the sockets, although if you force on them they will likely crack yes so get yourself a proper switch puller that can press on the switch tabs.
    that is only theory as i do not own any hotswap or fr4 plate boards, although i worked with FR4 and it is a rather durable material all things considered.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Wed, 05 May 2021, 02:23:22
    what does "reserved" in an IC means?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 05 May 2021, 02:57:40
    Quote from: Ranger_Trivette on Wed, 05 May 2021, 02:23:22
    what does "reserved" in an IC means?
    Traditionally the second post of a GB thread was reserved by the runner and contained a list of updates and the date it was made so you could see what had changed without re-reading the whole long first post.

    Today when randoms (not the OP) post it in an IC it's a meme saying they think there wasn't enough effort put into it.  As with most memes I don't get it, if it's bad it should be allowed to slip down the page(s) not repeatedly bumped.  The kids disagree...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Wed, 05 May 2021, 03:13:37
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Wed, 05 May 2021, 02:57:40
    Quote from: Ranger_Trivette on Wed, 05 May 2021, 02:23:22
    what does "reserved" in an IC means?
    Traditionally the second post of a GB thread was reserved by the runner and contained a list of updates and the date it was made so you could see what had changed without re-reading the whole long first post.
    thanks! now i understand.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Jim-Bar on Wed, 05 May 2021, 14:55:31
    Designing my own plate to laser cut for putting in a Tofu65 case. Where can I find the specs for placing the screw holes at the correct locations, if that is to be found somewhere?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Leopard223 on Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:57:43
    Is the modern ABS more durable against yellowing? I got the R2 I’d the KBD67Lite and wondering how long it will last white assuming it will get very minimal sunlight
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Sun, 16 May 2021, 10:36:59
    Quote from: Leopard223 on Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:57:43
    Is the modern ABS more durable against yellowing? I got the R2 I’d the KBD67Lite and wondering how long it will last white assuming it will get very minimal sunlight
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43479.0#:~:text=PBT%20is%20much%20more%20resistant,a%20quick%20cleaning%20of%20course.)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Slyceth on Fri, 21 May 2021, 10:54:47
    I'm looking for a low-profile hot-swappable 65% USB-C PCB+plate+case with the arrow keys a little off to the side like the GMMK Pro.
    I want NO KNOBS, NO RGB and NO WIRELESS though.

    I want the keyboard to be as light as possible though.

    Is it possible to obtain such power? I've looked everywhere. I've even looked up every single keyboard listed on the QMK configurator (yes all 600+ of them)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Leopard223 on Fri, 21 May 2021, 15:43:06
    Quote from: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Sun, 16 May 2021, 10:36:59
    Quote from: Leopard223 on Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:57:43
    Is the modern ABS more durable against yellowing? I got the R2 I’d the KBD67Lite and wondering how long it will last white assuming it will get very minimal sunlight
    https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43479.0#:~:text=PBT%20is%20much%20more%20resistant,a%20quick%20cleaning%20of%20course.)
    Adam from KBDfans havetold me ABS is better than PBT when it comes to yellowing, every research tells me overwise. 
    Though it has been 7 years since that thread, could the modern ABS be pretty good against yellowing?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Sat, 22 May 2021, 15:24:46
    (https://i.imgur.com/CyzheZp.png)

    how "two colors plate" are made?
    looks like the plate get painted and later cleaned.

    any ideas?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 22 May 2021, 15:45:35
    Quote from: Ranger_Trivette on Sat, 22 May 2021, 15:24:46
    how "two colors plate" are made?
    looks like the plate get painted and later cleaned.

    any ideas?

    Could be an FR4 (PCB) plate where the gold bits are exposed 'traces' and the blue or black is the mask that usually covers all but the bits you solder?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Slyceth on Sat, 22 May 2021, 17:58:45
    Alright, then if there are no exploded arrow key options, I just want a 65% PCB with frame and case, does anybody know anywhere I can buy one right now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Sun, 23 May 2021, 10:38:01
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sat, 22 May 2021, 15:45:35
    Quote from: Ranger_Trivette on Sat, 22 May 2021, 15:24:46
    how "two colors plate" are made?
    looks like the plate get painted and later cleaned.

    any ideas?


    Could be an FR4 (PCB) plate where the gold bits are exposed 'traces' and the blue or black is the mask that usually covers all but the bits you solder?
    mmm not sure... i'll search a little bit more.
    they looks very nice
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Mon, 24 May 2021, 02:40:31
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sat, 22 May 2021, 15:45:35
    Quote from: Ranger_Trivette on Sat, 22 May 2021, 15:24:46
    how "two colors plate" are made?
    looks like the plate get painted and later cleaned.

    any ideas?

    Could be an FR4 (PCB) plate where the gold bits are exposed 'traces' and the blue or black is the mask that usually covers all but the bits you solder?
    after a weekend of research, yes they are.
    you start from an fr4 plate with a copper layer on top. the you mill all the copper except the frame of each switch slot.

    so i need to find someone that mill fr4 plate  :cool:

    thanks again :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 24 May 2021, 09:57:44
    Quote from: Ranger_Trivette on Mon, 24 May 2021, 02:40:31
    so i need to find someone that mill fr4 plate  :cool:
    Milling PCB doesn't sound fun, it's not perfectly flat and you want a very small cut depth.

    You should be able to get one made by any PCB maker who will probably etch it and if you're only looking at the top it can be single sided so cheaper :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 27 May 2021, 05:29:33
    https://iqunix.store/products/iqunix-f96-mechanical-keyboard-wireless-bluetooth

    Does this keyboard have customizable layout on the pcb? And can you reprogram the keys?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Thu, 27 May 2021, 09:48:40
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Thu, 27 May 2021, 05:29:33
    https://iqunix.store/products/iqunix-f96-mechanical-keyboard-wireless-bluetooth

    Does this keyboard have customizable layout on the pcb? And can you reprogram the keys?
    the description say "fully programmable".

    here you can see the pcb. doesn't seem customizable to me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ayz on Thu, 27 May 2021, 13:42:21
    So I want to make my own coiled usb cable. Do you guys notice any difference between usb 2.0 and 3.0? Does it have any effect on the polling rate (1000hz)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nayz on Thu, 27 May 2021, 14:36:05
    Can anyone explain to me how correctly fix a pcb that isn't working? I have a kdb75 that is now fully built (as in all switches are lubed and soldered to the pcb) and the right menu key is not working. I have confirmed that the issue is not the switch (I've changed out switches). I have seen a large amount of material about making a switch bridge and I watched a youtube video on it, however this did not work for me. I was able to get the switch that is supposed to output right menu to output right alt through a switch bridge, but this does not help me as I still cannot use the right menu key for it's intended purpose. If anyone is willing to help please give me your suggestions, if needed I will include pictures of the pcb.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Thu, 27 May 2021, 14:43:06
    Quote from: Nayz on Thu, 27 May 2021, 14:36:05
    Can anyone explain to me how correctly fix a pcb that isn't working? I have a kdb75 that is now fully built (as in all switches are lubed and soldered to the pcb) and the right menu key is not working. I have confirmed that the issue is not the switch (I've changed out switches). I have seen a large amount of material about making a switch bridge and I watched a youtube video on it, however this did not work for me. I was able to get the switch that is supposed to output right menu to output right alt through a switch bridge, but this does not help me as I still cannot use the right menu key for it's intended purpose. If anyone is willing to help please give me your suggestions, if needed I will include pictures of the pcb.

    isn't the right menu key programmed to be an Fn key by default on those pcbs, have you tried changing the keymap in the firmware
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DotMatrixMoe on Fri, 28 May 2021, 10:01:49
    I'm new to GeekHack, so I came to this thread first to ask my question. I've seen tons of teensy USB modifications for an average IBM MODEL M keyboard. However, what I possess is an IBM MODEL M13. I wish to use it as my daily driver, due to the amazing bucklings and iconic trackpoint. I've looked everywhere for tutorials that at least modifies a M with a mouse input, with no avail. I could've wrote this in one sentence, but I love boring people :p . Are there any controller boards capable of doing such a modification?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 29 May 2021, 04:02:37
    Quote from: DotMatrixMoe on Fri, 28 May 2021, 10:01:49
    I'm new to GeekHack, so I came to this thread first to ask my question. I've seen tons of teensy USB modifications for an average IBM MODEL M keyboard. However, what I possess is an IBM MODEL M13. I wish to use it as my daily driver, due to the amazing bucklings and iconic trackpoint. I've looked everywhere for tutorials that at least modifies a M with a mouse input, with no avail. I could've wrote this in one sentence, but I love boring people :p . Are there any controller boards capable of doing such a modification?
    Welcome to geekhack :)

    I have no experience with these but people like trackpoints so I expect it works.  What connections does it have?  If it's PS/2 you can use a USB adaptor, if it's something more fun the tmk convertor thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103648.0) is probably what you're looking for (if you can help debug hasu will try to make it work if it doesn't already)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: XPrisTX on Fri, 04 June 2021, 09:53:44
    hi all. my friend just gave me https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-wireless-mechanical-keyboard (https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-wireless-mechanical-keyboard)- (https://webcamgirls.watch)- (https://livecamsex.show)- (https://nudecamgirls.chat) Keychron K1 (and old verison 2 i guess).
    it's werid, when i just slightly touch a key (on the side mostly) - i already see a text being typed. without a click.  >:D
    is that normal for low profile mechanical keyboards or is it just that one?
    thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 04 June 2021, 12:52:50
    Quote from: XPrisTX on Fri, 04 June 2021, 09:53:44
    hi all. my friend just gave me https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-wireless-mechanical-keyboard (https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-wireless-mechanical-keyboard)- (https://webcamgirls.watch) Keychron K1 (and old verison 2 i guess).
    it's werid, when i just slightly touch a key (on the side mostly) - i already see a text being typed. without a click.  >:D
    is that normal for low profile mechanical keyboards or is it just that one?
    thanks.
    I would hope it's not normal.  Does it happen on every key or only ones that have been used lots, like the vowels?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: coelacanth on Tue, 08 June 2021, 15:49:50
    I am a newbie when it comes to keyboards, however I end up hearing the terms north-facing, south-facing, and interference a lot. From my understanding, this is referring to the direction your switches are facing and how your keycaps interact/handle it. One thing that I'm confused about though is that people seem to say gmk keycaps (cherry profile) tend to have interference on north-facing switches. If you had south-facing switches would this problem subside? Also what dictates the direction your switches face, is it the switches themselves or is it the pcb?

    I have yet to buy any products yet, but I am planning on doing so in the near future. I would like to take into consideration all of these details to give myself the best first keyboard experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 08 June 2021, 16:30:13
    Quote from: coelacanth on Tue, 08 June 2021, 15:49:50
    If you had south-facing switches would this problem subside? Also what dictates the direction your switches face, is it the switches themselves or is it the pcb?

    It's the PCB that supports the orientation of the switches. Because the PCB is made a certain way, the switches must fit in that particular direction. And yes, when you use south-facing switches, due to the interior shape of Cherry profile keycaps, the problem with collisions of keycaps with switch-tops subsides.

    If you are planning to use Cherry profile, I would highly advise sticking to south-facing (LED window on the bottom-side).



    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: coelacanth on Tue, 08 June 2021, 20:05:08
    Quote from: LightningXI on Tue, 08 June 2021, 16:30:13
    Quote from: coelacanth on Tue, 08 June 2021, 15:49:50
    If you had south-facing switches would this problem subside? Also what dictates the direction your switches face, is it the switches themselves or is it the pcb?

    It's the PCB that supports the orientation of the switches. Because the PCB is made a certain way, the switches must fit in that particular direction. And yes, when you use south-facing switches, due to the interior shape of Cherry profile keycaps, the problem with collisions of keycaps with switch-tops subsides.

    If you are planning to use Cherry profile, I would highly advise sticking to south-facing (LED window on the bottom-side).


    Thank you! I really appreciate all this info  ;D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: coelacanth on Wed, 09 June 2021, 08:57:51
    Since I am newer to this hobby, I noticed people often prefer 6 or 7 degree keyboards, anything higher is too steep and you may need a wrist rest. Personally I have mild sporadic carpal tunnel and the keyboard I was interested in happens to be 9 degrees. I am wondering if this is a major downside and I would be better off looking into something more considerate of this condition, or if this is something completely useable and I am misinformed.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: coelacanth on Wed, 09 June 2021, 11:33:03
    Earlier today I thought I understood what south facing and north facing meant. However, after looking into a keyboard I'm interested in (Geonworks Frog Tkl) I asked the discord the directions of each of the 4 pcb options. I was referred to this chart. https://imgur.com/a/DWGZ1wk (https://imgur.com/a/DWGZ1wk)
     In the chat people continued to speak about this but I can't figure out what north facing stabilizers is supposed to mean, does this mean the entire pcb, including the switches are north facing? Are they south facing but only the stabilizers are north? I'm so confused !
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheWonderBubble on Fri, 11 June 2021, 14:08:50
    So currently I use a Razer Black Widow Chroma Stealth with their orange switches in it for my work. I'm looking to replace this board for a few reasons but I don't actually dislike the switch feel. For anyone familiar with them, what tactile switch would be a good replacement? I wouldn't mind something slightly less mushy/more positive, but overall I'm pretty happy with these for the typing I do at work. The current info on Razer's site shows a box-style stem [ + ] whereas mine have the MX style +, so I'm not sure if the information there is still accurate or not (I was given this keyboard a couple years ago).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Learis on Mon, 14 June 2021, 11:09:36
    I've seen that stacking two 1.5mm thick o-rings (3.0mm thickness total) causes the travel distance on cherry-profile keycaps to shorten to the point where a few switches don't actuate unless I mash the key.

    I decided to order special o-rings that are 2.5mm. Can anyone confirm if this is safe for cherry profile and will always give enough travel distance for actuation? I'll honestly find out in a week or so when they come in, but the suspense is killing me. It's killing meeee!!!!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 16 June 2021, 16:56:33
    Quote from: Learis on Mon, 14 June 2021, 11:09:36
    I've seen that stacking two 1.5mm thick o-rings (3.0mm thickness total) causes the travel distance on cherry-profile keycaps to shorten to the point where a few switches don't actuate unless I mash the key.

    I decided to order special o-rings that are 2.5mm. Can anyone confirm if this is safe for cherry profile and will always give enough travel distance for actuation? I'll honestly find out in a week or so when they come in, but the suspense is killing me. It's killing meeee!!!!

    There is also hardness to consider as softer rings compress more allowing more travel.  I think you'll have to wait and see, if you can survive that long :-X
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Learis on Fri, 18 June 2021, 21:13:18
    I can now confirm that 2.5mm thick o-rings are still definitely too thick for cherry profile at least. They nearly work, but for maybe 1 in 5 switches they're still too thick to where you have to mash or at least do a more forceful press to actuate the key. And this is more prevelant for some reason on the top row. I am using standard durock linear switches.

    Oh well. I'm sticking to the normal 1.5mm thick orings I have which work fine. Maybe I'll experiment with 2mm orings in the future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: SlotH42 on Sat, 26 June 2021, 11:54:26
    I woke up this morning and turned on my PC and my poker 2 caps lock is blinking. It wont type anything. I have tried holding down fn + r to restore to factory settings, but nothing seems to register. I plugged it into another PC only to have the same issue. I have not found very much info on this searching on line other than a few people saying it could be a firmware issue?? Anyone know what I can do to fix this problem?
    I have tried downloading the firmware from ikbckeyboard however after I extract the file and run the application the button that says "okay" to update the firmware is not working I cant click it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yui on Mon, 28 June 2021, 01:52:25
    Quote from: SlotH42 on Sat, 26 June 2021, 11:54:26
    I woke up this morning and turned on my PC and my poker 2 caps lock is blinking. It wont type anything. I have tried holding down fn + r to restore to factory settings, but nothing seems to register. I plugged it into another PC only to have the same issue. I have not found very much info on this searching on line other than a few people saying it could be a firmware issue?? Anyone know what I can do to fix this problem?
    I have tried downloading the firmware from ikbckeyboard however after I extract the file and run the application the button that says "okay" to update the firmware is not working I cant click it.
    i have no experience with that board but i would agree that it screams of bad firmware, although this would require a bit more than a simple question and a simple answer to diagnose properly and i would recommend to start a thread and hopefully peoples with more experience may see it.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: snerk on Wed, 07 July 2021, 12:45:34
    I'm looking for a fullsize keyboard that has:

    1. cherry mx switch mounting (solder is fine) 
    2. full-sized arrow/numpad/etc setup, not the compact one 
    3. QMK or VIA support

    *or*

    I'm looking for a fullsize keyboard that has 6-12 programmable macro keys, either up above the Fkeys or to the left side.

    I'm looking to get a nice keyboard setup for work. I have switches and caps that I like already. I need a fullsize as I use the numpad and pgup/pgdn/insert/delete/home/end, fkeys, etc. all routinely at work. But I want macro keys so I can program in some super-common keystroke combinations that I use as well and semi-automate/speed up my work.

    Currently I'm thinking of running an inexpensive but halfway decent TKL and bringing my Tidbit to work with my macros programmed, but if I could have a dedicated work board set up for my job that would be fine.

    Not averse to building/programming/etc. Could be a fun project. :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yui on Fri, 09 July 2021, 01:26:30
    Quote from: snerk on Wed, 07 July 2021, 12:45:34
    I'm looking for a fullsize keyboard that has 6-12 programmable macro keys, either up above the Fkeys or to the left side.
    if you did not already have switches and caps i would recommend the FK9200, it is now my daily driver and the macro are very easy to set up on it. other than that 100% kits are incredibly rare so maybe keep a look out for the boston, if i follow correctly it should come into GB soon
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rsrogers4 on Wed, 14 July 2021, 07:37:34
    This weekend, I will be building my first custom mechanical keyboard.

    Components: F12 Silver Frog TKL, SA-P Industrial PBT Keycaps, Alpaca v2 Switches, Everglide PCB Screw-in Stabilizer V2, Hotswap PCB (86,F12 Tsangan). I also purchased the case foam, board foam, alu plate, FR4 full plate, hard tadpoles, and soft tadpoles.

    Here is my plan: start with alu plate, unlubed switches (they are factory lubed), unlubed/unmodded stabs, hard tadpoles, and no foam. Then I plan to slowly add mods one at a time, every other week, so I can truly learn how each mod feels/sounds. I realize that some mods (like the foam) are frowned upon but I purchased these just for the learning experience.

    Two questions: 1) does this plan make sense, and 2) will I damage my switches, stabs, or plates by not using lube from the start?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: yui on Wed, 14 July 2021, 09:01:13
    Quote from: rsrogers4 on Wed, 14 July 2021, 07:37:34
    Two questions: 1) does this plan make sense, and 2) will I damage my switches, stabs, or plates by not using lube from the start?
    1- yeah make sense, i somewhat did the same, or something very similar (no switch lube and far cheaper overall)
    2- switches or stabs are designed to be used unlubed so no it will not damage them to use them unlubed, if you use them unlubed for long enough you may even never need to lube them as they will break in and become smooth of themselves withing a week or two, and to damage plates you will need to type really hard. the only thing is that hotswap sockets are rather weak, they are rated for relatively few insertions (200, very low in the connector realm) and peoples found that they can stop working after as few as 5 insertions, and one final point, for me at least i did not find any difference in feel between lubed or not stabs, just lubed they are way less rattly and noisy. the only think you could damage is your keycaps and switches at disassembly and the hotswap sockets at reassembly, do not force on the sockets, if a pin is bent and you force you can rip the socket out, if you need to force 1st check that the pins go both where they should.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rsrogers4 on Wed, 14 July 2021, 09:10:43
    Thank you so much, Yui. I had no idea hotswap PCBs were so fragile. I will take your advice and be careful. Honestly, the Tsangan PCB has been a bit of a pain with respect to the R4 "non-standard" keycaps and is north facing so apparently won't work with QMK keys, so I may be replacing it somewhat soon with a Hineybush or other compatible solder PCB. I thought hotswap would give me a chance to try both linear and tactile switches since I don't know which I'd like more... hopefully the hotswap PCB I have lasts at least that long!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rsrogers4 on Sun, 18 July 2021, 12:10:15
    Is it normal for 2/3rds of the switches to come out when pulling keycaps (using a wire puller on diagonal corners of the key) off a hotswap PCB? I have new SA-P keys which are pretty thick PBT, in case that matters.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 July 2021, 17:37:37
    Quote from: rsrogers4 on Sun, 18 July 2021, 12:10:15
    Is it normal for 2/3rds of the switches to come out when pulling keycaps (using a wire puller on diagonal corners of the key) off a hotswap PCB? I have new SA-P keys which are pretty thick PBT, in case that matters.

    That doesn't sound right.

    I've only gotten into hotswap switches, but I've not experienced one switch coming out when removing keycaps.

    Nor when removing keycaps from non-hotswap switch keyboards.  Ever.

    It might depend on how well the switches fit into the board - my hotswap keyboards seem to hold the switches fairly well.  The amount of wear on the switches depending on how many times they have been installed and removed might also affect how well they clip in.

    It might also depend on your technique.  I was watching a video of someone reviewing a keyboard, and they hooked the puller under the keycap, rested their hand on the keyboard, and just yanked upwards :eek:  Asking for trouble!

    I tend to fit the puller, then wiggle it gently around in a very small circle while applying gradually increasing upwards force.  Works 99% of the time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rsrogers4 on Sun, 18 July 2021, 17:51:53
    Thanks, Rowdy. The switches and PCB are both new. I might have been pulling too hard, and I didn't wiggle!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: asgeirtj on Fri, 23 July 2021, 08:44:56
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/epomaker/epomaker-gk96s-96-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?ref=950ief

    Is this keyboard buyable? Availability seems not clear on the site
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Fri, 23 July 2021, 16:31:53
    Can you tell me how Tribosys 3203 and 3204 compares to Krytox 205g0 in terms of thickness? ( I'm looking for an all-purpose lube for tacticles and stabs, but rather on the thin side, to avoid any slightest bit of sluggishness. )
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 23 July 2021, 18:11:44
    Quote from: asgeirtj on Fri, 23 July 2021, 08:44:56
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/epomaker/epomaker-gk96s-96-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?ref=950ief

    Is this keyboard buyable? Availability seems not clear on the site
    The kickstarter ended last year but there's a bright green "order now" button at the top that takes you to a website with a buy button - unless I'm missing something?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Neig on Wed, 28 July 2021, 12:38:57
    Hi, Im new to geekhack and looking to build my first keyboard. I've been looking around and I'm pretty sure I know what I'm gonna buy.

    Yet, I have one question where I've found nothing about. Some sources say I can't use a Cherry switch opener to open Kailh NK Cream switches and other sources say I can.

    Can anyone confirm if I can open a Kailh switch with a cherry switch opener, and if not tell me what to look for?

    thanks in advance  :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TheWonderBubble on Wed, 28 July 2021, 14:01:09
    Quote from: Neig on Wed, 28 July 2021, 12:38:57
    Hi, Im new to geekhack and looking to build my first keyboard. I've been looking around and I'm pretty sure I know what I'm gonna buy.

    Yet, I have one question where I've found nothing about. Some sources say I can't use a Cherry switch opener to open Kailh NK Cream switches and other sources say I can.

    Can anyone confirm if I can open a Kailh switch with a cherry switch opener, and if not tell me what to look for?

    thanks in advance  :)

    The NovelKeys cream switches look like a cherry housing (narrow dual clips) so you should be able to use that just fine. Kailh switches themselves use a different housing design (single wide clip).

    A lot of switch openers have both prongs though, I picked up this one: https://dinokeys.co/products/switch-opener (https://dinokeys.co/products/switch-opener) and it's opened up my polia and boba switches so far (I got mine from thockeys, but they don't seem to carry it now). There's a lot of different variants out there to choose from. Glorious, ThocKeys, The Key Company, basically everyone has their own offerings that have both the single thick prong and the two smaller prongs for Kailh/Cherry switches, respectively.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mrvco on Mon, 09 August 2021, 19:44:33
    Is there a reliable way to create a plate file by scanning an existing plate?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 09 August 2021, 20:01:34
    Quote from: mrvco on Mon, 09 August 2021, 19:44:33
    Is there a reliable way to create a plate file by scanning an existing plate?

    Yup, there is but I don't think it'd be worth the cost unless you know someone with access to a good high res optical scanner and someone familiar enough to take that data and turn it into a CAD file
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: k4jtek on Tue, 10 August 2021, 08:38:57
    Quote from: mrvco on Mon, 09 August 2021, 19:44:33
    Is there a reliable way to create a plate file by scanning an existing plate?
    But... What for? Can't you just copy the layout to KLE looking on a plate and generate file in swillkb builder? It seems to be much easier.

    Sent from my Nokia 3310 using Taptalak

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: sprax on Thu, 12 August 2021, 07:21:09
    hey guys im new here, and i was thinking in making a thread but i think my question(s) are not worthy.

    So i have a cm masterkeyspro M, and am considering building my first ever custom keyboard, my idea is to build something cheap but with some quality, so my line of thought is:

    - Board: Womier/gamakay k87
    - keycaps: gmk mizu clones
    - switches: akko ocean

    my questions here are:
    - what other sugestion you have for board, that are worth looking into? (it can be iso or ansi idm either)
    - regarding switches, firstly i was thinkin in getting boba u4t, but they are kinda expensive, is it worth the difference? is there any other tactile non mx good option? i wanted somthing heavier than mx browns

    thanks in advance for your time
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Leopard223 on Wed, 18 August 2021, 09:12:31
    What are the best keyboard stabs? Having hard time lately with stabilizers and it’s driving me crazy.
    Have used Everglide Pandas which are quite good. 
    Everglide V1 are not that good, they’re ticking.
    KBDFans PC ones are nice but aren’t perfect. 

    Should I get Durock/Everglide V2? afaik they’re the same as V1 just with different housing to prevent wire popping but that’s not a concern to me. 

    Wires are balanced, stabs lubed properly, using a switch with minimal wobble.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Wed, 18 August 2021, 10:59:16
    Quote from: sprax on Thu, 12 August 2021, 07:21:09
    hey guys im new here, and i was thinking in making a thread but i think my question(s) are not worthy.

    So i have a cm masterkeyspro M, and am considering building my first ever custom keyboard, my idea is to build something cheap but with some quality, so my line of thought is:

    - Board: Womier/gamakay k87
    - keycaps: gmk mizu clones
    - switches: akko ocean

    my questions here are:
    - what other sugestion you have for board, that are worth looking into? (it can be iso or ansi idm either)
    - regarding switches, firstly i was thinkin in getting boba u4t, but they are kinda expensive, is it worth the difference? is there any other tactile non mx good option? i wanted somthing heavier than mx browns

    thanks in advance for your time

    I'm not exactly familiar with either the Womier or gamakay, which might hint at their quality. That said, I could just be out of the loop.

    Generally, my advice when it comes to boards is that you should put money towards the base and build from there. If you buy cheap, you're going to buy twice. Look at a Ducky, Glorious, or KBDFan boards (those tend to be pretty popular) and save purchases like additional key sets and improved switches for later.

    As for switches, I'd recommend getting a small number of the U4Ts (switches are usually sold in packs of 10) and testing them for yourself. Maybe even try lubing a few to test the difference. Switches are highly subjective, and your mileage may vary. Personally, it's 100% worth the price, but you may find the Bobas are too tactile or not tactile enough, or too heavy etc.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Wed, 18 August 2021, 11:07:22
    Quote from: Eszett on Fri, 23 July 2021, 16:31:53
    Can you tell me how Tribosys 3203 and 3204 compares to Krytox 205g0 in terms of thickness? ( I'm looking for an all-purpose lube for tacticles and stabs, but rather on the thin side, to avoid any slightest bit of sluggishness. )

    Kinetic Labs (https://kineticlabs.store/lube) has a good explanation on the qualities of each. I've used 3203 on my tactile switches in the past. I regret not getting 206g0 for my stabs though; 3203/4 can be a bit thin for that application.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Wed, 18 August 2021, 19:21:10
    Question, with Kailh hot swap sockets installed, the space between PCB and plate (3.5mm) is not changed by this right? And a plate of 1.6mm (instead of 1.5mm), reduces the inbetween space to 3.4mm, is that correct?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: totaltotal on Sat, 21 August 2021, 01:53:01
    I have a Leopold FC750R with Cherry Clears. The springs are a little too tough for me, and I'd like to swap them out for springs that are easier to actuate. From what I've read, it's not possible to simply pop the top off the switches on this Leopold due to the plate not having some extra space. Is that true? Is my only option for new springs desoldering?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 21 August 2021, 03:00:03
    Quote from: Eszett on Wed, 18 August 2021, 19:21:10
    Question, with Kailh hot swap sockets installed, the space between PCB and plate (3.5mm) is not changed by this right? And a plate of 1.6mm (instead of 1.5mm), reduces the inbetween space to 3.4mm, is that correct?
    Yes - the switch rests on the PCB to make it stable and the lip rests on top of the plate, the distance between the two will not change.  More plate = less gap but make sure they still clip in as without solder they will be easier to knock out.

    Quote from: totaltotal on Sat, 21 August 2021, 01:53:01
    I have a Leopold FC750R with Cherry Clears. The springs are a little too tough for me, and I'd like to swap them out for springs that are easier to actuate. From what I've read, it's not possible to simply pop the top off the switches on this Leopold due to the plate not having some extra space. Is that true? Is my only option for new springs desoldering?
    Sadly this is true, only on some DIY plates where you can see gaps down the side of the switches can you pull the tops off while they're soldered.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eszett on Sat, 21 August 2021, 09:23:27
    muchas gracias, suicidal orange!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mrvco on Sat, 21 August 2021, 13:38:20
    Quote from: k4jtek on Tue, 10 August 2021, 08:38:57
    Quote from: mrvco on Mon, 09 August 2021, 19:44:33
    Is there a reliable way to create a plate file by scanning an existing plate?
    But... What for? Can't you just copy the layout to KLE looking on a plate and generate file in swillkb builder? It seems to be much easier.

    Sent from my Nokia 3310 using Taptalak

    Quote
    What for?

    I have an extra TFV2 brass plate and I would like to try an aluminum plate.  KBDFans had no interest in releasing a plate file or making anything other than brass plates for the TFV2.

    Quote
    Can't you just copy the layout to KLE looking on a plate and generate file in swillkb builder?

    I don't know, I'm not familiar with swillkb builder or KLE.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mrvco on Sat, 21 August 2021, 13:41:46
    Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 09 August 2021, 20:01:34
    Quote from: mrvco on Mon, 09 August 2021, 19:44:33
    Is there a reliable way to create a plate file by scanning an existing plate?

    Yup, there is but I don't think it'd be worth the cost unless you know someone with access to a good high res optical scanner and someone familiar enough to take that data and turn it into a CAD file

    I have a local 3D Printshop, I'll have to ask and see how much it wold cost to scan the plate.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: totaltotal on Sat, 21 August 2021, 15:50:56
    Thanks, suicidal_orange. I think I’m going to return the Leopold for something that gives me more flexibility. I don’t intend to go nuts customizing, but it would be nice to at least have the capability to customize more than just the keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MXTopre on Tue, 24 August 2021, 17:54:53
    How would you compare the height of the Leopold FC660C to the HHKB Hybrid Type-S? Are they the same height?


    How would you compare typing feel between FC660C/Type-S? I had a chance to try a brand new HHKB and I didn't really like it. Based on all the positive reviews of the Topre switches, I was expecting a much smoother feel. I didn't like how harsh/rough was the way after actuation to the bottom. It felt like it wasn't well oiled, with sand or broken springs. Maybe the keyboard needs some time for a break-in.


    PS. These are two things that stopped me from buying the FC660C for now. I also had the opportunity to try Varmilo on MX Blue and it was an amazing feeling. Also, the lower profile suits me a lot better than the HHKB. I'm thinking about buying Varmilo but still don't want to give up on the Leopold ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 August 2021, 03:25:12
    Quote from: MXTopre on Tue, 24 August 2021, 17:54:53
    How would you compare the height of the Leopold FC660C to the HHKB Hybrid Type-S? Are they the same height?

    How would you compare typing feel between FC660C/Type-S? I had a chance to try a brand new HHKB and I didn't really like it. Based on all the positive reviews of the Topre switches, I was expecting a much smoother feel. I didn't like how harsh/rough was the way after actuation to the bottom. It felt like it wasn't well oiled, with sand or broken springs. Maybe the keyboard needs some time for a break-in.

    PS. These are two things that stopped me from buying the FC660C for now. I also had the opportunity to try Varmilo on MX Blue and it was an amazing feeling. Also, the lower profile suits me a lot better than the HHKB. I'm thinking about buying Varmilo but still don't want to give up on the Leopold ;)

    I have heard that Topre domes do take a little while to settle in, although I got my HHKB secondhand so I can't really say how much difference it makes.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Arbiter on Thu, 26 August 2021, 01:51:46
    Choosing a keyboard aesthetic?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Thu, 26 August 2021, 12:38:41
    Quote from: Arbiter on Thu, 26 August 2021, 01:51:46
    Choosing a keyboard aesthetic?


    What about it
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TemperingRocket on Wed, 01 September 2021, 20:50:16
    Hi everyone. I bought a new Leopold FC750R and when i started using it i noticed that on most of the keys when i firmly pressed them down i heard a *snap* when i bottomed out that has since gone away. Is this an issue with the Cherry switches? or was the keycap just not seated all the way when they installed them.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Fri, 03 September 2021, 04:11:46
    Quote from: TemperingRocket on Wed, 01 September 2021, 20:50:16
    Hi everyone. I bought a new Leopold FC750R and when i started using it i noticed that on most of the keys when i firmly pressed them down i heard a *snap* when i bottomed out that has since gone away. Is this an issue with the Cherry switches? or was the keycap just not seated all the way when they installed them.

    Welcome to Geekhack!

    If the noise stopped pretty much the first time you bottomed out each key, then it is almost certainly the keycaps not having been installed correctly.

    It is unusual for a switch to "snap" unless there is something fairly significant wrong with it.

    You can test this hypothesis for yourself by gently removing a keycap, then replacing it, but not pushing it all the way down.

    Then bottom out that key - see if it snaps like before.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 04 September 2021, 11:49:43
    I am looking at trying to get a duck Octagon V3 and know that it has a 11 degree angle.
    I have been using 60% pcb's in a OG FMJ poker case forever. Anyone know how that would compare angle wise? I don't have a angle finder to measure my case...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 04 September 2021, 11:56:36
    Quote from: domoaligato on Sat, 04 September 2021, 11:49:43
    I am looking at trying to get a duck Octagon V3 and know that it has a 11 degree angle.
    I have been using 60% pcb's in a OG FMJ poker case forever. Anyone know how that would compare angle wise? I don't have a angle finder to measure my case...

    Nevermind... Downloaded a protractor app. FMJ poker is 8 degrees. The 3 degree raise doesn't seem as drastic as others have said.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nerif on Sat, 04 September 2021, 15:18:15
    Are Matias Quiet Linear switches reliable? I heard that they are tend to die over time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Sat, 04 September 2021, 15:57:12
    Quote from: Nerif on Sat, 04 September 2021, 15:18:15
    Are Matias Quiet Linear switches reliable? I heard that they are tend to die over time.

    I've heard less than stellar things about Matias. I tend to avoid their boards / switches in general
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 04 September 2021, 16:58:31
    Quote from: Nerif on Sat, 04 September 2021, 15:18:15
    Are Matias Quiet Linear switches reliable? I heard that they are tend to die over time.
    There used to be lots of complaints about Matias switches, then they supposedly made improvements and I've not heard anything since.  Whether that means they are now more reliable or the damage to their reputation was done and people just stopped buying them is hard to say.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Fri, 10 September 2021, 13:30:11
    I'm looking for a split-space 60% pcb. I know the dz60 is an option, but their split seems to be a 3 button split (or some permutation of 2.25, 1.25, 2.75).

    I'd prefer a 2x 3u layout like the Matzka. Any recommendations?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Fri, 10 September 2021, 14:02:40
    Quote from: _rubik on Fri, 10 September 2021, 13:30:11
    I'm looking for a split-space 60% pcb. I know the dz60 is an option, but their split seems to be a 3 button split (or some permutation of 2.25, 1.25, 2.75).

    I'd prefer a 2x 3u layout like the Matzka. Any recommendations?

    It's a pretty uncommon layout, with 3u mostly being used in a split 7u 3x1x3, if you are sort of looking for the dual spacebar look you could try the quefrency in a 60% config, if I remember you can have a 2.25/2.75 in the middle instead of 2.25/1.25/2.75
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:09:01
    Is there such thing as a linear switch that clicks?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:11:53
    If a keyboard switch clicks in the forest and there is no one there to hear it, did it really click?
     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Sat, 11 September 2021, 17:53:15
    Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:09:01
    Is there such thing as a linear switch that clicks?

    I suppose you could click mod an alps green? Not sure if that would impact the (lack of) tactility though
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: rowdy on Sun, 12 September 2021, 17:21:52
    Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:11:53
    If a keyboard switch clicks in the forest and there is no one there to hear it, did it really click?
     

    Yes, because by definition it has clicked in the forest, therefore it did click.
    Title: DZ60 Arrow Key Layout
    Post by: ChimpyFire on Fri, 24 September 2021, 04:07:35
    I'm looking at the DZ60 PCB and Plate, but I was wondering if the below layout would work with Plate B of the DZ60

    [attachimg=1]

    DZ60 plate = https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-cnc-aluminum-plate?variant=39293765025931 (https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-cnc-aluminum-plate?variant=39293765025931)
    DZ60RGB V2 PCB = https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb?variant=22105030066224 (https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb?variant=22105030066224)

    As you can see I'm wanting to go with a 60% layout with arrow keys. On the product page for the DZ60RGB V2 PCB (link above) there's an arrow key layout (attached) that says it needs Plate B, however when going to the Plate B page it doesn't look like it'll be compatible.

    Any help is much appreciated, thanks
    Title: Re: DZ60 Arrow Key Layout
    Post by: _rubik on Fri, 24 September 2021, 11:27:05
    Quote from: ChimpyFire on Fri, 24 September 2021, 04:07:35
    I'm looking at the DZ60 PCB and Plate, but I was wondering if the below layout would work with Plate B of the DZ60

    (Attachment Link)

    DZ60 plate = https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-cnc-aluminum-plate?variant=39293765025931 (https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-cnc-aluminum-plate?variant=39293765025931)
    DZ60RGB V2 PCB = https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb?variant=22105030066224 (https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb?variant=22105030066224)

    As you can see I'm wanting to go with a 60% layout with arrow keys. On the product page for the DZ60RGB V2 PCB (link above) there's an arrow key layout (attached) that says it needs Plate B, however when going to the Plate B page it doesn't look like it'll be compatible.

    Any help is much appreciated, thanks

    [attachimg=1 width=640]

    [attachimg=2 width=640]

    Looks good to me. (All information found with the two links you included)
    Title: Re: DZ60 Arrow Key Layout
    Post by: ChimpyFire on Fri, 24 September 2021, 20:26:13
    Quote from: _rubik on Fri, 24 September 2021, 11:27:05
    Quote from: ChimpyFire on Fri, 24 September 2021, 04:07:35
    I'm looking at the DZ60 PCB and Plate, but I was wondering if the below layout would work with Plate B of the DZ60

    (Attachment Link)

    DZ60 plate = https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-cnc-aluminum-plate?variant=39293765025931 (https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-cnc-aluminum-plate?variant=39293765025931)
    DZ60RGB V2 PCB = https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb?variant=22105030066224 (https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb?variant=22105030066224)

    As you can see I'm wanting to go with a 60% layout with arrow keys. On the product page for the DZ60RGB V2 PCB (link above) there's an arrow key layout (attached) that says it needs Plate B, however when going to the Plate B page it doesn't look like it'll be compatible.

    Any help is much appreciated, thanks

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    Looks good to me. (All information found with the two links you included)

    Awesome, thankyou. As you could probably tell, it's my first keyboard and I don't want to buy incompatible parts!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Fri, 24 September 2021, 21:22:00
    Quote from: ChimpyFire on Fri, 24 September 2021, 20:26:13
    Quote from: _rubik on Fri, 24 September 2021, 11:27:05
    Quote from: ChimpyFire on Fri, 24 September 2021, 04:07:35
    I'm looking at the DZ60 PCB and Plate, but I was wondering if the below layout would work with Plate B of the DZ60

    (Attachment Link)

    DZ60 plate = https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-cnc-aluminum-plate?variant=39293765025931 (https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-cnc-aluminum-plate?variant=39293765025931)
    DZ60RGB V2 PCB = https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb?variant=22105030066224 (https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb?variant=22105030066224)

    As you can see I'm wanting to go with a 60% layout with arrow keys. On the product page for the DZ60RGB V2 PCB (link above) there's an arrow key layout (attached) that says it needs Plate B, however when going to the Plate B page it doesn't look like it'll be compatible.

    Any help is much appreciated, thanks

    (Attachment Link)

    (Attachment Link)

    Looks good to me. (All information found with the two links you included)

    Awesome, thankyou. As you could probably tell, it's my first keyboard and I don't want to buy incompatible parts!
    No worries at all! Good on you for double checking.

    I didn’t mean that as an RTFM, but more to show you what to look for in the future.

    Enjoy your new project and welcome!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Go Gurt Stick on Wed, 06 October 2021, 13:07:36
    How can I dampen the sound of my keyboard while still keeping a high-pitched sound?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AdriG on Wed, 13 October 2021, 11:09:49
    Is there any 65% soldered (bcos of ISO) pcb with knob to buy right now?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 15 October 2021, 12:20:16
    Quote from: AdriG on Wed, 13 October 2021, 11:09:49
    Is there any 65% soldered (bcos of ISO) pcb with knob to buy right now?

    Off the top of my head, the Quefrency (https://keeb.io/collections/quefrency-split-staggered-65-keyboard) is a (split) 65% with ISO and support for a rotary encoder or two. There may be more options out there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Sat, 16 October 2021, 11:04:43
    How do you remove costar stabilizers off a mounted-plate keyboard?

    This is my keyboard:
    Microsoft Word - HyperX Alloy FPS keyboard user manual.docx (ssl-images-amazon.com)

    Alloy FPS Pro Mechanical Gaming Keyboard | HyperX (hyperxgaming.com)

    Does anyone know how it should be done? I tried looking for tutorials and none of them show how to remove costars, only cherries.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Sat, 16 October 2021, 11:07:30
    I messed up the links my bad:
    https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/C1fnGA6NDES.pdf
    https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/keyboards/alloy-fps-pro-mechanical-gaming-keyboard

    Also this video shows how to remove cherry stabilizers but they are not plate mounted. Is removing plate mounted costar stabilizers the same but I would have to remove the PCB to access the backplate or do I pull the stabilizers from the top?

    t=300s
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 16 October 2021, 21:05:21
    Quote from: ShangWang on Sat, 16 October 2021, 11:04:43
    How do you remove costar stabilizers off a mounted-plate keyboard?

    Remove the stabilized cap and surrounding caps, to give you space to work. Remove the white insert pegs which connect to the keycaps, so you just have the wire and plate-mounted clips remaining. Each of the plate-mounted parts is held in by nubs at the top and bottom of the mounting slot. The nub at the top (or side without the wire, in case your board has an upside-down stabilizer) is very small, so if you push the 'spike' at the top end towards the bottom, you should feel the clip pop out of the board. If you apply too much pressure here, it's possible to snap the mount in two, so be careful! Once both sides are popped out, you can slide back and up to remove the stabilizer. To insert new stabilizers, just do the reverse -- slide the mount in from top to bottom, so the larger bottom clip is engaged, and push the top spike in until it clips.

    This video shows the general process, although they pop the bottom of the mount out, which requires a bit more bending. They also show removal of the wire, which I've found to be unnecessary.

     
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eutyches on Mon, 18 October 2021, 08:43:52
    Hello, everyone! I am new here (and it is high time that I have joined).

    I am hoping that someone will please tell me what key switch type is photographed below.

    I am looking at purchasing a keyboard from someone locally, but the person does not know what the switch type is -- nor do I!

    Many thanks in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 18 October 2021, 11:19:22
    Quote from: Eutyches on Mon, 18 October 2021, 08:43:52
    Hello, everyone! I am new here (and it is high time that I have joined).

    I am hoping that someone will please tell me what key switch type is photographed below.

    I am looking at purchasing a keyboard from someone locally, but the person does not know what the switch type is -- nor do I!

    Many thanks in advance.

    Well, from those photos it looks like the board is set up for solderless switch swapping, so if you don't like the switch, it should be relatively straightforward to swap to any plate-mount MX-compatible switch.

    I didn't recognize that specific design at first, but it looks like it says 'MMK' in your first image, below the stem. Some googling brought me to this page, which looks like a match: https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005002999358935.html. Based exclusively on looking at the force curve, it probably feels somewhat similar to Cherry MX reds.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eutyches on Mon, 18 October 2021, 11:30:31
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 18 October 2021, 11:19:22

    Well, from those photos it looks like the board is set up for solderless switch swapping, so if you don't like the switch, it should be relatively straightforward to swap to any plate-mount MX-compatible switch.

    I didn't recognize that specific design at first, but it looks like it says 'MMK' in your first image, below the stem. Some googling brought me to this page, which looks like a match: https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005002999358935.html. Based exclusively on looking at the force curve, it probably feels somewhat similar to Cherry MX reds.

    Many thanks! Splendid  :D
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Eutyches on Mon, 18 October 2021, 19:19:19
    UPDATE: I found the answer! It is a MOMOKA_ERGO: https://www.momoka.co/ergo

    Alright! After the help earlier (see above), I did in fact buy the keyboard from the local seller. I thought that it was an Ergodox, but the layout is actually slightly different (note the missing internal column on both sides).

    So -- what board is this?

    And how can I program it (if at all)?  QMK?

    There are no identifying markers. It glows red around the whole body on both sides. USB-C. Everything looks prefabricated / nicely manufactured. The switches are Flamingos.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Tue, 19 October 2021, 22:40:56
    Glad you figured it out! Good luck getting it customized to your liking  :thumb:

    Quote from: Eutyches on Mon, 18 October 2021, 19:19:19
    UPDATE: I found the answer! It is a MOMOKA_ERGO: https://www.momoka.co/ergo
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 10:45:37
    How do you remove plate mounted costar stabilizers? I tried removing them from the top, pulling them forward, upward, and backward and they don't budge. Do I have to desolder all my switches to get to the backplate to remove them?

    My keyboard:

    https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/C1fnGA6NDES.pdf
    https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/keyboards/alloy-fps-pro-mechanical-gaming-keyboard

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 12:59:25
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 10:45:37
    How do you remove plate mounted costar stabilizers? I tried removing them from the top, pulling them forward, upward, and backward and they don't budge. Do I have to desolder all my switches to get to the backplate to remove them?

    My keyboard:

    https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/C1fnGA6NDES.pdf
    https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/keyboards/alloy-fps-pro-mechanical-gaming-keyboard

    I don't see an actual picture of the stabilizers on either of those pages -- are you able to take a photo of your stabilizer for reference? Upon some googling, it seems that different SKUs of the HyperX Alloy apparently use different kinds of stabilizers.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:02:17
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 12:59:25
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 10:45:37
    How do you remove plate mounted costar stabilizers? I tried removing them from the top, pulling them forward, upward, and backward and they don't budge. Do I have to desolder all my switches to get to the backplate to remove them?

    My keyboard:

    https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/C1fnGA6NDES.pdf
    https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/keyboards/alloy-fps-pro-mechanical-gaming-keyboard

    I don't see an actual picture of the stabilizers on either of those pages -- are you able to take a photo of your stabilizer for reference? Upon some googling, it seems that different SKUs of the HyperX Alloy apparently use different kinds of stabilizers.
    Sorry, here: https://prnt.sc/1wzl9ra
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:15:23
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:02:17
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 12:59:25
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 10:45:37
    How do you remove plate mounted costar stabilizers? I tried removing them from the top, pulling them forward, upward, and backward and they don't budge. Do I have to desolder all my switches to get to the backplate to remove them?

    My keyboard:

    https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/C1fnGA6NDES.pdf
    https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/keyboards/alloy-fps-pro-mechanical-gaming-keyboard

    I don't see an actual picture of the stabilizers on either of those pages -- are you able to take a photo of your stabilizer for reference? Upon some googling, it seems that different SKUs of the HyperX Alloy apparently use different kinds of stabilizers.
    Sorry, here: https://prnt.sc/1wzl9ra

    Okay, those definitely look like costar stabs to me. It looks like that stabilizer is installed upside-down, so the easiest way to get it out will be to push sideways to the right (towards the x/c or m/n keys) on the spike at the left side of your picture (at the bottom of the spacebar). By pushing in that direction, the clip should pop out and rotate itself upward on its own. If that's not working, I'm not sure what else to suggest. It's possible that there's some adhesive or an extra bit of plastic on this design as compared to my much older board with costar stabs, which means the technique I'm used to won't work here. Maybe someone else has experience with this particular board and can chime in.

    E: this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101174.0) suggests that the HyperX Alloy doesn't use standard costar stabilizers
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:23:35
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:15:23
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:02:17
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 12:59:25
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 10:45:37
    How do you remove plate mounted costar stabilizers? I tried removing them from the top, pulling them forward, upward, and backward and they don't budge. Do I have to desolder all my switches to get to the backplate to remove them?

    My keyboard:

    https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/C1fnGA6NDES.pdf
    https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/keyboards/alloy-fps-pro-mechanical-gaming-keyboard

    I don't see an actual picture of the stabilizers on either of those pages -- are you able to take a photo of your stabilizer for reference? Upon some googling, it seems that different SKUs of the HyperX Alloy apparently use different kinds of stabilizers.
    Sorry, here: https://prnt.sc/1wzl9ra

    Okay, those definitely look like costar stabs to me. It looks like that stabilizer is installed upside-down, so the easiest way to get it out will be to push sideways to the right (towards the x/c or m/n keys) on the spike at the left side of your picture (at the bottom of the spacebar). By pushing in that direction, the clip should pop out and rotate itself upward on its own. If that's not working, I'm not sure what else to suggest. It's possible that there's some adhesive or an extra bit of plastic on this design as compared to my much older board with costar stabs, which means the technique I'm used to won't work here. Maybe someone else has experience with this particular board and can chime in.

    E: this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101174.0) suggests that the HyperX Alloy doesn't use standard costar stabilizers
    So you mean push forward from where I would be facing here?  https://prnt.sc/1wznne4
    Also I don't believe they are "upside down," I'm not sure what that means. This is how the stabilizers came in and the spacebar works perfectly fine, I'm just wondering how to remove some so I can re-insert them because some are a bit wobbly.

    Better picture of my stabilizer: https://prnt.sc/1wzppsn

    Edit: Sorry I just noticed the thread, yes. The hyperx alloy is the exact stabilizers I have, I watched that video too and it doesn't look like you can remove them from the top.
    This video at the 5:01 timestamp shows how to remove cherry stabilizers by "pinching" them off from the PCB, but mine are plate mounted and are costars so they're not well known if they are removed that way or not.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:39:13
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:23:35
    So you mean push forward from where I would be facing here?  https://prnt.sc/1wznne4
    Also I don't believe they are "upside down," I'm not sure what that means. This is how the stabilizers came in and the spacebar works perfectly fine, I'm just wondering how to remove some so I can re-insert them because some are a bit wobbly.

    By 'upside-down', I just mean that the wire is at the top of the key, rather than at the bottom. It's not a problem, and won't affect the functioning, it's just the less-common way for that style of stabilizer to be designed. The switch for your spacebar is also 'upside-down' -- the LED is at the top of the switch, and the text is below the stem. None of this is an issue, it just means your keyboard was designed a bit differently from other keyboards.

    Reinserting the stabilizers won't necessarily fix any wobble -- because the key inserts aren't attached to the stabilizer at all, and just ride along the wire in a groove, there's some inherent play in the design, which is necessary for the inserts to move without grinding or binding. If the plate-mounted parts in your image don't move significantly when you're poking at them to try and remove them, they're likely not the source of any wobble you're experiencing.

    I've attached an image with the correct areas and directions to push. I've indicated both in the image, but you should be able to pop them out one at a time.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:48:43
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:39:13
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:23:35

    By 'upside-down', I just mean that the wire is at the top of the key, rather than at the bottom. It's not a problem, and won't affect the functioning, it's just the less-common way for that style of stabilizer to be designed. The switch for your spacebar is also 'upside-down' -- the LED is at the top of the switch, and the text is below the stem. None of this is an issue, it just means your keyboard was designed a bit differently from other keyboards.

    Reinserting the stabilizers won't necessarily fix any wobble -- because the key inserts aren't attached to the stabilizer at all, and just ride along the wire in a groove, there's some inherent play in the design, which is necessary for the inserts to move without grinding or binding. If the plate-mounted parts in your image don't move significantly when you're poking at them to try and remove them, they're likely not the source of any wobble you're experiencing.

    I've attached an image with the correct areas and directions to push. I've indicated both in the image, but you should be able to pop them out one at a time.
    Your method worked! Thank you so much :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:56:15
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:48:43
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:39:13

    By 'upside-down', I just mean that the wire is at the top of the key, rather than at the bottom. It's not a problem, and won't affect the functioning, it's just the less-common way for that style of stabilizer to be designed. The switch for your spacebar is also 'upside-down' -- the LED is at the top of the switch, and the text is below the stem. None of this is an issue, it just means your keyboard was designed a bit differently from other keyboards.

    Reinserting the stabilizers won't necessarily fix any wobble -- because the key inserts aren't attached to the stabilizer at all, and just ride along the wire in a groove, there's some inherent play in the design, which is necessary for the inserts to move without grinding or binding. If the plate-mounted parts in your image don't move significantly when you're poking at them to try and remove them, they're likely not the source of any wobble you're experiencing.

    I've attached an image with the correct areas and directions to push. I've indicated both in the image, but you should be able to pop them out one at a time.
    Your method worked! Thank you so much :)

    Glad to hear that's done it! Hopefully you're able to mitigate some of the wobble you're experiencing  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:57:33
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:39:13
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:23:35
    So you mean push forward from where I would be facing here?  https://prnt.sc/1wznne4
    Also I don't believe they are "upside down," I'm not sure what that means. This is how the stabilizers came in and the spacebar works perfectly fine, I'm just wondering how to remove some so I can re-insert them because some are a bit wobbly.

    By 'upside-down', I just mean that the wire is at the top of the key, rather than at the bottom. It's not a problem, and won't affect the functioning, it's just the less-common way for that style of stabilizer to be designed. The switch for your spacebar is also 'upside-down' -- the LED is at the top of the switch, and the text is below the stem. None of this is an issue, it just means your keyboard was designed a bit differently from other keyboards.

    Reinserting the stabilizers won't necessarily fix any wobble -- because the key inserts aren't attached to the stabilizer at all, and just ride along the wire in a groove, there's some inherent play in the design, which is necessary for the inserts to move without grinding or binding. If the plate-mounted parts in your image don't move significantly when you're poking at them to try and remove them, they're likely not the source of any wobble you're experiencing.

    I've attached an image with the correct areas and directions to push. I've indicated both in the image, but you should be able to pop them out one at a time.
    Unfortunately as you said the wobble isn't fixed by reinserting the stabilizers, they aren't the real issue I have, I was just aware they aren't "fixed" in. Is there any way to fix this wobble in any case?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 14:24:17
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:57:33
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:39:13
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 13:23:35
    So you mean push forward from where I would be facing here?  https://prnt.sc/1wznne4
    Also I don't believe they are "upside down," I'm not sure what that means. This is how the stabilizers came in and the spacebar works perfectly fine, I'm just wondering how to remove some so I can re-insert them because some are a bit wobbly.

    By 'upside-down', I just mean that the wire is at the top of the key, rather than at the bottom. It's not a problem, and won't affect the functioning, it's just the less-common way for that style of stabilizer to be designed. The switch for your spacebar is also 'upside-down' -- the LED is at the top of the switch, and the text is below the stem. None of this is an issue, it just means your keyboard was designed a bit differently from other keyboards.

    Reinserting the stabilizers won't necessarily fix any wobble -- because the key inserts aren't attached to the stabilizer at all, and just ride along the wire in a groove, there's some inherent play in the design, which is necessary for the inserts to move without grinding or binding. If the plate-mounted parts in your image don't move significantly when you're poking at them to try and remove them, they're likely not the source of any wobble you're experiencing.

    I've attached an image with the correct areas and directions to push. I've indicated both in the image, but you should be able to pop them out one at a time.
    Unfortunately as you said the wobble isn't fixed by reinserting the stabilizers, they aren't the real issue I have, I was just aware they aren't "fixed" in. Is there any way to fix this wobble in any case?

    I've encountered two types of wobble with costar stabs:

    1) 'side-to-side', where the cap seems to rotate a bit. This is actually inherent to all keys, where they have a couple of degrees of rotation around the switch, but it's more evident in the longer stabilized keys, where the edge of the key moves more for the same rotation angle. Cherry stabilizers help mitigate this a bit, because they have less freedom of movement at the stabilizer. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to retrofit Cherry stabs into a Costar board, since they need larger cutouts in the plate. Personally, I've just learned to live with it, and I don't really notice any impact while typing.

    2) 'up-and-down', where pressing on one side of the key doesn't depress the entire key evenly. Instead, the side you press goes down, and the opposite side tilts up. This is the more difficult thing to deal with when typing, because it can lead to missed keystrokes. Usually, this is caused by the stabilizer inserts fitting too losely in the stem of the keycap. The fit can be improved by cutting a small square of thin plastic (e.g. scotch tape, ziplock bag), and putting this square over the insert before putting the insert in the keycap. By adding this little bit of extra material, you get a better friction fit between the two pieces, and it's less likely to pop out.

    If you're also experiencing rattling or noises, you may be able to improve this by lubricating your stabilizers. I've never bothered to do this, so I'll let someone with more experience provide guidance on that.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 14:41:04
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 14:24:17

    I've encountered two types of wobble with costar stabs:

    1) 'side-to-side', where the cap seems to rotate a bit. This is actually inherent to all keys, where they have a couple of degrees of rotation around the switch, but it's more evident in the longer stabilized keys, where the edge of the key moves more for the same rotation angle. Cherry stabilizers help mitigate this a bit, because they have less freedom of movement at the stabilizer. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to retrofit Cherry stabs into a Costar board, since they need larger cutouts in the plate. Personally, I've just learned to live with it, and I don't really notice any impact while typing.

    2) 'up-and-down', where pressing on one side of the key doesn't depress the entire key evenly. Instead, the side you press goes down, and the opposite side tilts up. This is the more difficult thing to deal with when typing, because it can lead to missed keystrokes. Usually, this is caused by the stabilizer inserts fitting too losely in the stem of the keycap. The fit can be improved by cutting a small square of thin plastic (e.g. scotch tape, ziplock bag), and putting this square over the insert before putting the insert in the keycap. By adding this little bit of extra material, you get a better friction fit between the two pieces, and it's less likely to pop out.

    If you're also experiencing rattling or noises, you may be able to improve this by lubricating your stabilizers. I've never bothered to do this, so I'll let someone with more experience provide guidance on that.
    Thank you for the explanation, I've checked myself and I do not suffer from either issue. It just seems the way the keyboard is made. One stab on my spacebar was just wobbly itself but doesn't cause issues, just a bit annoying to see.

    What I can likely do to make it sound better is add foam to make the keyboard sound less hollow, but it's not something I want to do right now so maybe in the future to test it.

    Another thing is lubing the switches themselves, since I hear a metal ping noise from my spacebar more often than other switches so it likely needs some lube but I would have to desolder my plate mounted switches to properly lube them and I have to buy it first.

    What I have done is buy some cheap dielectric grease to lube the stabilizers which I did a few days ago, it made almost no difference because my stabilizers did not "rattle."

    Thank you again for the help, please let me know if you have any advice for sound dampening/lubing plate mounted switches :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 15:22:07
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 14:24:17

    I've encountered two types of wobble with costar stabs:

    1) 'side-to-side', where the cap seems to rotate a bit. This is actually inherent to all keys, where they have a couple of degrees of rotation around the switch, but it's more evident in the longer stabilized keys, where the edge of the key moves more for the same rotation angle. Cherry stabilizers help mitigate this a bit, because they have less freedom of movement at the stabilizer. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to retrofit Cherry stabs into a Costar board, since they need larger cutouts in the plate. Personally, I've just learned to live with it, and I don't really notice any impact while typing.

    2) 'up-and-down', where pressing on one side of the key doesn't depress the entire key evenly. Instead, the side you press goes down, and the opposite side tilts up. This is the more difficult thing to deal with when typing, because it can lead to missed keystrokes. Usually, this is caused by the stabilizer inserts fitting too losely in the stem of the keycap. The fit can be improved by cutting a small square of thin plastic (e.g. scotch tape, ziplock bag), and putting this square over the insert before putting the insert in the keycap. By adding this little bit of extra material, you get a better friction fit between the two pieces, and it's less likely to pop out.

    If you're also experiencing rattling or noises, you may be able to improve this by lubricating your stabilizers. I've never bothered to do this, so I'll let someone with more experience provide guidance on that.
    One more thing if you don't mind:

    All my other stabilizer keys make more of a "clack" sound when pressed, while my right shift bar makes  a more damp "thocc" sound.
    I checked under each stabilizer, they are all properly and evenly lubed, it's just the right shift bar sounds slightly better than all the rest. Switches didn't feel very different either.
    Thoughts on why this is?
    EDIT: Sorry link didn't work now it does:
    Video: https://imgur.com/a/tayio15
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Volny on Fri, 22 October 2021, 00:45:02
    What is the lightest switch (ignoring springs for the moment) that you know of? Yes, most of the weight will come from the spring, but housing, stem, and leaf also come into play. I've compared a bunch of different linear switches using the same 45g spring, and Gateron Silent Clears were the lightest I've found so far. Anyone know of anything even lighter?

    My use case for these is for POS (Point of Sale) style 2u keycaps that are mounted on 2 adjacent switches (which effectively doubles the spring weight, making even light switches feel heavy).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 22 October 2021, 11:52:44
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 21 October 2021, 15:22:07
    One more thing if you don't mind:

    All my other stabilizer keys make more of a "clack" sound when pressed, while my right shift bar makes  a more damp "thocc" sound.
    I checked under each stabilizer, they are all properly and evenly lubed, it's just the right shift bar sounds slightly better than all the rest. Switches didn't feel very different either.
    Thoughts on why this is?
    EDIT: Sorry link didn't work now it does:
    Video: https://imgur.com/a/tayio15

    Personally, I don't hear much of a difference between the right shift and anything else. If you're hearing a difference, it may just be down to differences in manufacturing tolerances for the keycap and inserts which slightly changes which parts touch when the cap bottoms out.

    Quote from: Volny on Fri, 22 October 2021, 00:45:02
    What is the lightest switch (ignoring springs for the moment) that you know of? Yes, most of the weight will come from the spring, but housing, stem, and leaf also come into play. I've compared a bunch of different linear switches using the same 45g spring, and Gateron Silent Clears were the lightest I've found so far. Anyone know of anything even lighter?

    My use case for these is for POS (Point of Sale) style 2u keycaps that are mounted on 2 adjacent switches (which effectively doubles the spring weight, making even light switches feel heavy).

    In general, linear switches will have less resistance than tactile or clicky designs, but I'm guessing you know that already if you're testing linears. I'm not aware of any significant differences in design, and would guess that the differences you're observing are more likely to be from variation within the manufacturing tolerances than a systematic difference between the different switch designs.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Fri, 22 October 2021, 11:55:20
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 22 October 2021, 11:52:44

    Personally, I don't hear much of a difference between the right shift and anything else. If you're hearing a difference, it may just be down to differences in manufacturing tolerances for the keycap and inserts which slightly changes which parts touch when the cap bottoms out.


    I think it's because the right shift key inserts are kind of "half-way" inserted but I can't push it any further. The keycap is also slightly longer than all the other keycaps so maybe that has some play into how it sounds compared to others, but other than that maybe how it was manufactured yeah.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 22 October 2021, 12:00:03
    Quote from: ShangWang on Fri, 22 October 2021, 11:55:20
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 22 October 2021, 11:52:44

    Personally, I don't hear much of a difference between the right shift and anything else. If you're hearing a difference, it may just be down to differences in manufacturing tolerances for the keycap and inserts which slightly changes which parts touch when the cap bottoms out.


    I think it's because the right shift key inserts are kind of "half-way" inserted but I can't push it any further. The keycap is also slightly longer than all the other keycaps so maybe that has some play into how it sounds compared to others, but other than that maybe how it was manufactured yeah.

    That could definitely be the cause. If you prefer that sound, you could play around with adding some spacer material to see if you can get the same effect on some other keys.

    I think I recall reading a long time ago about someone 3D printing inserts that they found to be better in some way than the standard ones, but I don't remember any of the details. If you have access to a 3D printer and want to go down a bit of a rabbit hole, that's maybe something to consider.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Fri, 22 October 2021, 12:01:58
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 22 October 2021, 12:00:03

    That could definitely be the cause. If you prefer that sound, you could play around with adding some spacer material to see if you can get the same effect on some other keys.

    I think I recall reading a long time ago about someone 3D printing inserts that they found to be better in some way than the standard ones, but I don't remember any of the details. If you have access to a 3D printer and want to go down a bit of a rabbit hole, that's maybe something to consider.

    Thanks, I don't think it's worth going there and I don't have a 3D printer, I kind of like the sound but the only thing that bothers me is sounds better than all my other keys haha.
    I don't use the key at all anyway so it's not a big deal, thanks again for the help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Volny on Sat, 23 October 2021, 19:52:34
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 22 October 2021, 11:52:44

    Quote from: Volny on Fri, 22 October 2021, 00:45:02
    What is the lightest switch (ignoring springs for the moment) that you know of? Yes, most of the weight will come from the spring, but housing, stem, and leaf also come into play. I've compared a bunch of different linear switches using the same 45g spring, and Gateron Silent Clears were the lightest I've found so far. Anyone know of anything even lighter?

    My use case for these is for POS (Point of Sale) style 2u keycaps that are mounted on 2 adjacent switches (which effectively doubles the spring weight, making even light switches feel heavy).

    ... I'm not aware of any significant differences in design, and would guess that the differences you're observing are more likely to be from variation within the manufacturing tolerances than a systematic difference between the different switch designs.

    I imagine there could be a few relevant factors, at least theoretically. For example, housing material or leaf design. Also leaf material: a leaf made from a thinner or flimsier metal would probably provide less resistance. Perhaps this is why I've found the gateron to be the lightest, since gateron switches IMO usually feel a bit cheaply made.

    The thing that has puzzled me is that the gateron silent clear, which has consistently been the lightest in my tests, has also been one of the scratchiest, which I would have thought would make it feel heavier. Hmm, maybe I can try combining a gateron leaf with a smooth UHMWPE housing...
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Mon, 25 October 2021, 01:18:07
    Quote from: Volny on Sat, 23 October 2021, 19:52:34
    I imagine there could be a few relevant factors, at least theoretically. For example, housing material or leaf design. Also leaf material: a leaf made from a thinner or flimsier metal would probably provide less resistance.

    Yes, but I'm not aware of any such purposeful differences existing within a particular manufacturer's switches, and I'd expect if there were purposeful differences, there would be some marketing copy about just how fantastic those differences are  :)) . For housings, for example, there will be variations between moulds, batches of plastic, etc., and these variations may be greater for a manufacturer with less stringent quality control standards. I'd be happy to be proven wrong on this point!

    When you're testing the gateron silent clears, are all your test switches bought at the same time, from the same retailer, or have you bought switches over a period of time, from different retailers? If, say, you just bought a single 10-pack, it's entirely possible that the particular batch you got is closer to out-of-spec than the other switches you've tried in a way that happens to be favourable for your application.

    This may be related to one of the reasons 'vintage' MX Blacks were so sought after -- the older switches had smooth sliders, while the newer switches used a different material, and were considerably more scratchy. More recently, there's been another retooling, and apparently the modern MX blacks are a bit better. But these transitions weren't like flipping a switch, they took place over time, and various supply chains and parts of the world got the new stuff to consumers at different times, over a course of years.

    Quote
    The thing that has puzzled me is that the gateron silent clear, which has consistently been the lightest in my tests, has also been one of the scratchiest, which I would have thought would make it feel heavier. Hmm, maybe I can try combining a gateron leaf with a smooth UHMWPE housing...

    The sense of touch is very...sensitive -- for lack of a better word. The amount of extra friction from the scratchy feeling is likely negligible on the scales you're measuring (grams of force -- centinewtons), but you can feel the consequences. How are you measuring how heavy a particular switch is?

    You could maybe get beneficial results by lubing the contact points of your slider/housing -- if properly done, this could further reduce friction, as well as helping the scratchy feeling.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Volny on Mon, 25 October 2021, 08:19:32
    Quote from: user 18 on Mon, 25 October 2021, 01:18:07
    Quote from: Volny on Sat, 23 October 2021, 19:52:34
    I imagine there could be a few relevant factors, at least theoretically. For example, housing material or leaf design. Also leaf material: a leaf made from a thinner or flimsier metal would probably provide less resistance.

    Yes, but I'm not aware of any such purposeful differences existing within a particular manufacturer's switches, and I'd expect if there were purposeful differences, there would be some marketing copy about just how fantastic those differences are  :)) .

    Why would there be any? Ultra light frankenswitches like what I'm talking about are an utter irrelevance to 99% of the marketplace. My use case (POS mount 2u keycaps that require 2 switches per keycap, to be used in a regular keyboard, not a POS system) is niche to the point of being basically an outlier.

    On the contrary. Since my previous post, I've taken a few leaves out of various switches, and they appear to have confirmed my original suspicion: gateron silent clears are lighter simply because they're cheap and crappy. The leaves seem to be thinner and flimsier than other brands' leaves. This works in my favour in this instance, but it's hardly something Gateron should be boasting about in their ads ;)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Tue, 09 November 2021, 10:24:18
    Is it bad to have dielectric grease on the bottom of your costar stabilizers? Will it do nothing or does it affect the sound if a thin layer is there?

    If any dielectric grease seeped under to the PCB, would that cause any damage? If I used a paper towel to wipe off the dielectric grease and it scratched the surface, would that also be an issue or is it all cosmetic? When and where would scratches on a PCB be an issue?

    PCB: https://imgur.com/a/zmuq77u
    Stabilizer: https://imgur.com/fwnrcBV
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:14:53
    Quote from: ShangWang on Tue, 09 November 2021, 10:24:18
    Is it bad to have dielectric grease on the bottom of your costar stabilizers? Will it do nothing or does it affect the sound if a thin layer is there?

    If any dielectric grease seeped under to the PCB, would that cause any damage? If I used a paper towel to wipe off the dielectric grease and it scratched the surface, would that also be an issue or is it all cosmetic? When and where would scratches on a PCB be an issue?

    PCB: https://imgur.com/a/zmuq77u
    Stabilizer: https://imgur.com/fwnrcBV

    I can't speak from experience to how it would affect the sound. I wouldn't expect there to be a major difference if it's really just a thin layer -- I don't believe the stabilizer inserts bottom out during normal use.

    Dielectric grease is nonconductive, so it shouldn't lead to any shorting or undesirable behaviour if it's in contact with the PCB. I believe it's also used to protect electrical contacts against corrosion, so it shouldn't cause any long-term issues if it's touching PCB traces or contacts.

    Scratches to a PCB can cause issues when they sever an electrical connection, or significantly reduce its cross-sectional area (i.e. cut almost all the way through), particularly for a trace that carries a reasonable amount of power -- which you usually won't find in a keyboard. Your photo is a bit blurry, but I don't see any obvious signs of damage there. I wouldn't expect the mild abrasive of a paper towel to cause significant damage anyway, unless you applied a lot of pressure when wiping up the grease, or have a particularly fragile PCB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:17:11
    Sounds good, thanks! I haven't actually touched the PCB, I was just wondering in the future if I ever get the grease on there and I could clean it off.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:20:00
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:17:11
    Sounds good, thanks! I haven't actually touched the PCB, I was just wondering in the future if I ever get the grease on there and I could clean it off.

    I'd recommend a Q-tip or similar cotton swab, if you're trying to clean something through a small gap like that. Bit easier to control than a paper towel, in my experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:22:06
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:20:00

    I'd recommend a Q-tip or similar cotton swab, if you're trying to clean something through a small gap like that. Bit easier to control than a paper towel, in my experience.

    Thanks, Q-tips in your opinion don't have much of an issue with leaving cotton pieces behind? Would you dip it in 99% isopropyl alcohol or is 70% fine on PCB?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:31:40
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:22:06
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:20:00

    I'd recommend a Q-tip or similar cotton swab, if you're trying to clean something through a small gap like that. Bit easier to control than a paper towel, in my experience.

    Thanks, Q-tips in your opinion don't have much of an issue with leaving cotton pieces behind? Would you dip it in 99% isopropyl alcohol or is 70% fine on PCB?

    I wouldn't start off dipping it in anything if I was trying to use it to wipe up grease. My understanding is that higher alcohol % is safer for electronics, and iFixit agrees: https://www.ifixit.com/News/36877/ask-ifixit-everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-isopropyl-alcohol

    Both paper towel and cotton swabs have the potential to leave behind lint. I'm not concerned about a little bit of nonconductive debris, since dust and such will accumulate anyway, unless you're cleaning your board very frequently. In my experience, good-quality swabs leave behind little lint, particularly if you're not applying strong pressure, but a good-quality paper towel will leave less lint than a poor-quality swab.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:36:13
    Makes sense, I'll probably start dipping to clean the residue leftover after wiping.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 18 November 2021, 15:30:33
    I have the HyperX Alloy FPS Pro.

    I accidently got some dead skin in the circuit board through the tiny gaps in the switches, is this an issue? I was trying to blow away some particles and maybe it went inside but I'm not sure.

    If it did go inside, is it possible for any issues to occur, and if not is it not worth the hassle to clean? My keyboard is plate mounted so it would take a lot of work.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/hyperx-alloy-fps-rgb-pb-keycaps/5.html

    Also sorry if this should be obvious can anyone else confirm that there is a hidden screw on EACH upper rubber foot of the keyboard indicated in the site in the 2nd picture? I only see an image for one corner and I'm not sure if there's one on the other corner.

    This video shows only the right rubber pad is removed, not the other one:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: jimbalaja on Sat, 20 November 2021, 10:48:23
    I've been wanting to get a proper board now for a while. I've experimented enough on my sk-61 on lubing stabs and switches and all the mods I could find on the internet. But at the end of the day it's an sk-61. I can only take it to such an extent. So I'm ready to move on to something that's actually good. But I'm a little lost and I'm not sure what to buy. This is the list of things I'm looking for:

    - General budget of $300 so probably a barebones of less or equal to $200
    - TKL / 75% / 65%
    - Hotswap
    - Southfacing RGB
    - Screw in stabs
    - Aluminum case
    - Gasket mount would be cool
    - polycarbonate or brass plate would also be cool.

    I already have my switches picked out, probably alpacas. I'm gonna get durok stabs and Krytox. Haven't decided on the keycaps yet but probably pbt, idk if I have the budget for gmk.

    I've looked at the GMMK Pro and Keychron q1. I like the Q1 the best out of all I've seen but it's out of stock right now and I have until January to make this build.

    Are there any other options that you guys can tell me about?


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Sat, 20 November 2021, 11:23:47
    Quote from: jimbalaja on Sat, 20 November 2021, 10:48:23
    I've been wanting to get a proper board now for a while. I've experimented enough on my sk-61 on lubing stabs and switches and all the mods I could find on the internet. But at the end of the day it's an sk-61. I can only take it to such an extent. So I'm ready to move on to something that's actually good. But I'm a little lost and I'm not sure what to buy. This is the list of things I'm looking for:

    - General budget of $300 so probably a barebones of less or equal to $200
    - TKL / 75% / 65%
    - Hotswap
    - Southfacing RGB
    - Screw in stabs
    - Aluminum case
    - Gasket mount would be cool
    - polycarbonate or brass plate would also be cool.

    I already have my switches picked out, probably alpacas. I'm gonna get durok stabs and Krytox. Haven't decided on the keycaps yet but probably pbt, idk if I have the budget for gmk.

    I've looked at the GMMK Pro and Keychron q1. I like the Q1 the best out of all I've seen but it's out of stock right now and I have until January to make this build.

    Are there any other options that you guys can tell me about?
    Sounds like those are all your options, RGB and hotswap pretty much rules out most everything else.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Mon, 22 November 2021, 15:58:59
    I noticed that nearly all cherry/switch stabilizers require a PCB cut out under the spacebar for the wires to be inserted, but regular costars do not.

    PCB https://imgur.com/a/udH1ywn

    No PCB https://imgur.com/a/1cvYnct

    Does EVERY keyboard with switch stabilizers need this cut out? Are there keyboards out there that are able to insert the wire without the need for this cut out, and if not why?
    Would this cut out serve issues with dust/grease/grime getting into the PCB and causing issues?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: TonyLuczka on Wed, 24 November 2021, 12:43:14
    Is it necessary to lubricate my ink blacks? I was wondering if lube could make a more thocky keyboard. If so, how much more? Would it be best to get ink black or silent ink black?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Sat, 27 November 2021, 19:02:18
    I have the HyperX Alloy FPS Pro. It has a braided wire that can plug in and out of the keyboard.

    Sometimes when I lift up my keyboard/flip it in a different orientation it turns off for an instant and then immediately turns back on with the windows unplug and plug sound. For the most part the USB is snug between my laptop and the keyboard.

    Is this normal, and if not what kind of issue might this imply? Is it ok as long the keyboard works perfectly fine when sitting normally?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Sat, 27 November 2021, 19:39:25
    Will a keyboard work fine regardless of how bent the wire is? For example the cable running from the keyboard is pushed against a surface and is slightly bent with little space to "move."

    Would a keyboard work fine this way, or would doing this break the cable somehow, and if so in what way? What gets damaged and won't make connectivity work when a wire is bent/stressed?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 28 November 2021, 12:45:00
    A single bend in a cable is not a problem, if you keep bending and straightening it the wires inside will snap and the connection will be lost.

    As to the plugging and unplugging it that sounds like the cable fits in a USB port on the board?  If so you're putting too much pressure on it (maybe the cable is heavy) if you do this too much the port will break and you'll have to take the keyboard apart and replace the port.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Sun, 28 November 2021, 12:48:33
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sun, 28 November 2021, 12:45:00
    A single bend in a cable is not a problem, if you keep bending and straightening it the wires inside will snap and the connection will be lost.

    As to the plugging and unplugging it that sounds like the cable fits in a USB port on the board?  If so you're putting too much pressure on it (maybe the cable is heavy) if you do this too much the port will break and you'll have to take the keyboard apart and replace the port.

    I see, thanks. I'm thinking maybe the wires in the cable are not fully reinforced and may just not conduct electricity as well if moved. I don't put any pressure on the cable, I just lift my keyboard up and it briefly disconnects SOMETIMES.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 28 November 2021, 12:51:38
    Definitely sounds like a weak port (assuming the cable is not fixed)  If it is you could open the keyboard up and add some epoxy to hold the port in place, or maybe buy a right angle adaptor and glue it to the back of the board?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Sun, 28 November 2021, 13:09:14
    Assuming the port is weak is probably the case, the cable is able to wobble up and down a bit if I push up or down on it, but it's still securely plugged in at least.

    I don't think it's worth the trouble, as long as this is a common case with keyboards and can be ignored if the keyboard functions fine normally.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Thu, 02 December 2021, 16:00:41
    Quote from: ShangWang on Thu, 18 November 2021, 15:30:33
    I have the HyperX Alloy FPS Pro.

    I accidently got some dead skin in the circuit board through the tiny gaps in the switches, is this an issue? I was trying to blow away some particles and maybe it went inside but I'm not sure.

    If it did go inside, is it possible for any issues to occur, and if not is it not worth the hassle to clean? My keyboard is plate mounted so it would take a lot of work.


    If the board is still functioning normally, probably not worth taking it apart. To get in between the plate and PCB would likely require desoldering, and there's always a risk of lifting pads, etc. when you do that.

    Bits of dead skin is a component of regular dust, I wouldn't be too worried about that.

    Quote from: ShangWang on Mon, 22 November 2021, 15:58:59
    I noticed that nearly all cherry/switch stabilizers require a PCB cut out under the spacebar for the wires to be inserted, but regular costars do not.

    PCB https://imgur.com/a/udH1ywn

    No PCB https://imgur.com/a/1cvYnct

    Does EVERY keyboard with switch stabilizers need this cut out? Are there keyboards out there that are able to insert the wire without the need for this cut out, and if not why?
    Would this cut out serve issues with dust/grease/grime getting into the PCB and causing issues?

    I don't think that's a mandatory cutout for PCB mount Cherry stabilizers. I have one of these (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71551.0) that I'm 90% sure I used PCB mount Cherrys for. It did complicate assembly a bit, since the stabilizers had to be added before the first switch. I'd be surprised if any commercial boards would make that tradeoff.

    What issues are you experiencing with dust/grease/grime? Unless you're in a very dirty environment with a lot of conductive dust, I wouldn't expect to see any functional issues.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 02 December 2021, 16:24:37
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 02 December 2021, 16:00:41

    What issues are you experiencing with dust/grease/grime? Unless you're in a very dirty environment with a lot of conductive dust, I wouldn't expect to see any functional issues.
    No issues, just curious thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dankthropod on Thu, 09 December 2021, 06:25:01
    If I where to buy an IBM model M, how will I be able to use it in my daily driver machine? Are there any open source drivers for linux?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 09 December 2021, 09:54:41
    You shouldn't need any "drivers" - it is and has been the standard keyboard for decades.

    You will probably need to adapt the PS/2 cable (aka mini-DIN6) to USB, unless you are buying a Unicomp Model M which can be bought with native USB.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dankthropod on Fri, 10 December 2021, 03:25:22
    Thank you!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: blahsd on Mon, 13 December 2021, 09:21:34
    Are you aware of any 60% case which is layered aluminum and plastic (acrylic / pbt / doesn't matter)?

    I'm looking for parts for a 60% super portable keyboard which must have Bluetooth. I have seen a few cases (such as this: https://kprepublic.com/products/anodized-aluminium-3-layers-acclive-angle-case-for-custom-mechanical-keyboard-black-siver-grey-colorway-for-gh60-xd60-xd64) made of aluminum with an acrylic layer for underglow diffusion purposes. I would figure that this would be useful to improve BT connectivity, although the one I linked seems very small to make a concrete difference.

    I would be very happy with: aluminum/plastic layers, aluminum frame and plastic bottom-plate, aluminum front and plastic insert in the back or on the sides, or any combination of the above. In short, anything that looks good and gives a nice aesthetic / feel to the keyboard, while letting the signal through.

    Thanks in advance for any advice!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Leopard223 on Sat, 18 December 2021, 18:08:37
    Quote from: blahsd on Mon, 13 December 2021, 09:21:34
    Are you aware of any 60% case which is layered aluminum and plastic (acrylic / pbt / doesn't matter)?

    I'm looking for parts for a 60% super portable keyboard which must have Bluetooth. I have seen a few cases (such as this: https://kprepublic.com/products/anodized-aluminium-3-layers-acclive-angle-case-for-custom-mechanical-keyboard-black-siver-grey-colorway-for-gh60-xd60-xd64) made of aluminum with an acrylic layer for underglow diffusion purposes. I would figure that this would be useful to improve BT connectivity, although the one I linked seems very small to make a concrete difference.

    I would be very happy with: aluminum/plastic layers, aluminum frame and plastic bottom-plate, aluminum front and plastic insert in the back or on the sides, or any combination of the above. In short, anything that looks good and gives a nice aesthetic / feel to the keyboard, while letting the signal through.

    Thanks in advance for any advice!
    Not idea about Alu and BT connectivity, but you said you want it super portable and must have BT, an alu case will be quite heavy to walk around it.
    If you're okay with a cheap 65% with a plastic case you can take a look at the tester 68, I havn't used it and it's quite new so I have no idea about reliability.

    It's dirt cheap, super basic 65% with the common poker type of plastic case design, hot swap, no RGB, and has BT connectivity, actually BT connectivity is the only connection is has, no USB port.
    I personally find that okay as it runs on 2 aaa batteries, so you always take 2 spare with you when the 80h acclaimed battery life runs out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DrowningRice on Sun, 26 December 2021, 12:29:05
    Where can I buy mechanical switch stems? I could find springs on Ali Express, but I can't seem to find stems on its own (excluding the DROP ones which suck).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Leopard223 on Sun, 26 December 2021, 17:31:34
    Quote from: DrowningRice on Sun, 26 December 2021, 12:29:05
    Where can I buy mechanical switch stems? I could find springs on Ali Express, but I can't seem to find stems on its own (excluding the DROP ones which suck).
    Not sure what stems are you looking for, and I'm not sure how important is the stem but at this point your cheapest option would be getting a Gateron pack from AliExpress, it's as cheap as it gets.
    Title: Gummy O-Ring Mount
    Post by: Beebal on Mon, 27 December 2021, 09:51:39
    What size and hardness o-ring should I get if I am aiming to utilize the gummy o-ring mount / friction fit, and will I need to buy new clip-in stabilisers? The keyboard I am getting for it is the KBD67 Lite, and it is 65% with 2.25u left shift, and the stabilisers that come with it are screw-in.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: dboy on Tue, 04 January 2022, 05:12:36
    Hello!

    I am new to mechanical keyboards so be kind...  :)
    I have a KBParadise V60 with Gateron Mini switches.
    Does anyone know if I can open the case, desolder the old switches and fit a new switch-setup in there? For example Kailh, MX or similar.
    Title: Re: Gummy O-Ring Mount
    Post by: Leopard223 on Tue, 04 January 2022, 17:26:45
    Quote from: Beebal on Mon, 27 December 2021, 09:51:39
    What size and hardness o-ring should I get if I am aiming to utilize the gummy o-ring mount / friction fit, and will I need to buy new clip-in stabilisers? The keyboard I am getting for it is the KBD67 Lite, and it is 65% with 2.25u left shift, and the stabilisers that come with it are screw-in.
    How do you plan to implement the o-ring? I own the KBD67 lite and I don't think it will work due to the case design, looking at renders (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/files/WechatIMG8385_2048x2048.png?v=1615258136) also doesn't show any promise.
    Do you have examples?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Leopard223 on Sun, 16 January 2022, 21:38:58
    I've seen some Ultrasonic cleaners on AliExpress going for about $10, do you think they'll work properly? gut says no but AliExpress never fails to surprise me.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: faye_valentine on Thu, 03 February 2022, 02:05:00
    Trying to replace ibm model rubber dome keypad with mechanical keypad I had lying around. When removing the mechanical keypad from its previous circuit, I believe I might have broken it. Please help.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Username on Fri, 04 February 2022, 07:08:18
    I used to use white lithium grease as lube for my stabilizers. Is that okay? Or any other good recommendations?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Handke on Fri, 04 February 2022, 07:39:07
    Quote from: Leopard223 on Sun, 16 January 2022, 21:38:58
    I've seen some Ultrasonic cleaners on AliExpress going for about $10, do you think they'll work properly? gut says no but AliExpress never fails to surprise me.

    If you're going to clean keycaps, a big model (100 watt) will be the absoute minimum. I own smaller units and they don't clean as much, plus you have to waste at least three time as much time to clean.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 04 February 2022, 10:27:59
    Quote from: faye_valentine on Thu, 03 February 2022, 02:05:00
    Trying to replace ibm model rubber dome keypad with mechanical keypad I had lying around. When removing the mechanical keypad from its previous circuit, I believe I might have broken it. Please help.
    The ribbon cable looks fine, only thing that looks possibly damaged is the socket - did the front snap off?  As long as something holds the ribbon against the connector it will work so doesn't look fatal.

    If I'm missing something obvious feel free to point it out, I'm pretty much one eyed at the moment so it's very possible (https://cdn.geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/laugh.gif)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: faye_valentine on Tue, 08 February 2022, 04:36:07
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Fri, 04 February 2022, 10:27:59
    Quote from: faye_valentine on Thu, 03 February 2022, 02:05:00
    Trying to replace ibm model rubber dome keypad with mechanical keypad I had lying around. When removing the mechanical keypad from its previous circuit, I believe I might have broken it. Please help.(
    The ribbon cable looks fine, only thing that looks possibly damaged is the socket - did the front snap off?  As long as something holds the ribbon against the connector it will work so doesn't look fatal.

    If I'm missing something obvious feel free to point it out, I'm pretty much one eyed at the moment so it's very possible
    Show Image
    (https://cdn.geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/laugh.gif)


    I assumed I could pull the ribbon, with the socket at the end, directly out of the board. I accidentally pulled the ribbon directly out of the socket itself. Now it's a "naked" ribbon and I'm not sure if I can put it back into a socket, but was afraid to test in case I damaged the ribbon (further). Let me know if you need clarification.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:28:23
    Quote from: faye_valentine on Tue, 08 February 2022, 04:36:07
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Fri, 04 February 2022, 10:27:59
    Quote from: faye_valentine on Thu, 03 February 2022, 02:05:00
    Trying to replace ibm model rubber dome keypad with mechanical keypad I had lying around. When removing the mechanical keypad from its previous circuit, I believe I might have broken it. Please help.(
    The ribbon cable looks fine, only thing that looks possibly damaged is the socket - did the front snap off?  As long as something holds the ribbon against the connector it will work so doesn't look fatal.

    If I'm missing something obvious feel free to point it out, I'm pretty much one eyed at the moment so it's very possible
    Show Image
    (https://cdn.geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/laugh.gif)


    I assumed I could pull the ribbon, with the socket at the end, directly out of the board. I accidentally pulled the ribbon directly out of the socket itself. Now it's a "naked" ribbon and I'm not sure if I can put it back into a socket, but was afraid to test in case I damaged the ribbon (further). Let me know if you need clarification.

    I know that many ribbon cables don't actually have connectors on them, just exposed conductors on the plastic membrane. The socket is soldered to the board. I'm 90% sure that the IBM controllers fall into that category, but don't have one in front of me to double-check.

    E: for reference, here's what a model M controller looks like without the ribbon cables inserted (https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?p=208524#p208524). From what I can tell, this is the same socket as your board, which just expects the 'naked' ribbon to be inserted. It doesn't look to me like anything is damaged in your photo.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: faye_valentine on Tue, 22 February 2022, 18:00:50
    Thanks, I'll check the link until further notice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: faye_valentine on Mon, 07 March 2022, 08:00:09
    Quote from: user 18 on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:28:23
    Quote from: faye_valentine on Tue, 08 February 2022, 04:36:07
    Quote from: suicidal_orange on Fri, 04 February 2022, 10:27:59
    Quote from: faye_valentine on Thu, 03 February 2022, 02:05:00
    Trying to replace ibm model rubber dome keypad with mechanical keypad I had lying around. When removing the mechanical keypad from its previous circuit, I believe I might have broken it. Please help.(
    The ribbon cable looks fine, only thing that looks possibly damaged is the socket - did the front snap off?  As long as something holds the ribbon against the connector it will work so doesn't look fatal.

    If I'm missing something obvious feel free to point it out, I'm pretty much one eyed at the moment so it's very possible
    Show Image
    (https://cdn.geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/laugh.gif)


    I assumed I could pull the ribbon, with the socket at the end, directly out of the board. I accidentally pulled the ribbon directly out of the socket itself. Now it's a "naked" ribbon and I'm not sure if I can put it back into a socket, but was afraid to test in case I damaged the ribbon (further). Let me know if you need clarification.

    I know that many ribbon cables don't actually have connectors on them, just exposed conductors on the plastic membrane. The socket is soldered to the board. I'm 90% sure that the IBM controllers fall into that category, but don't have one in front of me to double-check.

    E: for reference, here's what a model M controller looks like without the ribbon cables inserted (https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?p=208524#p208524). From what I can tell, this is the same socket as your board, which just expects the 'naked' ribbon to be inserted. It doesn't look to me like anything is damaged in your photo.

    well it appears as though the "working" ibm model m has stopped working
    i'm noticing that a ps2 connecter requires 6 metal pins and a large rectangular pin, whereas my current "working" ibm has only 4.
    currently not sure as to whether these pins accidentally came off or if I received the ibm this way
    pics related
    i might still try conducting the keypad swap given i can't get the keyboard working soon just as a fun project
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 08 March 2022, 09:10:17
    Quote from: faye_valentine on Mon, 07 March 2022, 08:00:09

    ps2 connecter requires 6 metal pins and a large rectangular pin, whereas my current "working" ibm has only 4


    The socket does not "require" 6 pins, it accommodates them. There are only 4 that are live. The ones marked "2" and "6" on the diagram aren't doing anything.

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: lowercaselena on Sat, 19 March 2022, 16:28:35
    hello, i was wondering if anyone here had experience getting acrylic cut for a custom case/plate. im looking for pointer on how to design the files, places i could contact in europe/france etc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: PinkRoy on Mon, 21 March 2022, 11:22:07
    New to geekhack and way too young for a message board like this so sorry if I'm messing anything up. What kind of key rollover do BTC dome with slider boards have? I wanna know if I can use a BTC board for games that require a lot of key combinations at once. Thanks.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Magnusmaster on Sun, 24 April 2022, 17:29:50
    I have a mechanical keyboard that claims to have MX-Compatible Blue switches and the N key is sometimes unresponsive. Blowing the switch makes it more responsive for a while, but the problem persists, so I'm considering changing the switch. However, the keyboard doesn't seem to have standard MX-Compatible Blue switches. The switches have a hole on top to let light go through. Can anyone identify which switch this? Will a standard MX-Compatible Blue switch fit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Chewable Food on Tue, 26 April 2022, 18:23:34
    I murdered the bootloader of an ATmega32U4 based keyboard (BM980).  There is no ISP header as far as I can tell.  Am I missing something or is there no way to restore the bootloader?  Game over?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 27 April 2022, 15:28:28
    Quote from: Chewable Food on Tue, 26 April 2022, 18:23:34
    I murdered the bootloader of an ATmega32U4 based keyboard (BM980).  There is no ISP header as far as I can tell.  Am I missing something or is there no way to restore the bootloader?  Game over?
    The header is just a convenient place to connect all the pins you need in one place, as long as you connect to them somewhere you can use ISP to fix it.

    I can't find any firmware for this board to confirm which pins are used in the matrix but there's a good chance MOSI MISO and SCK are connected to some switches or diodes and if there's a button to enter flashing mode that will be connected to RESET and GND.  Hopefully that just leaves 5V which is conveniently located on a pin on the corner of the chip if it's not attached to something LED related) so you could carefully solder a wire directly to the pin.

    [attach=1]
    Note the dot in the corner to locate pin 1.

    If you have firmware and need more help please post a link to it :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fr3 on Mon, 16 May 2022, 15:00:10
    Would it be okay to lube switches ~8 months in advance with something like tribosys 3204 before putting it in a board? 
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AnonAustria13 on Mon, 30 May 2022, 17:40:52
    Q: Is there a specific reason for having numblock and nav-cluster to the right where it interferes with mouse movement instead of placing it to the left in a custom layout?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 30 May 2022, 18:31:03
    There are left-handed keyboards.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: geoken on Thu, 02 June 2022, 19:32:09
    Anybody know the specs for the screw on an FC660C that screws from the bottom case to the top case (the really long one). I lost it and need to order a screw that will fit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ideus on Mon, 06 June 2022, 17:39:53
    Is there a source to get a couple of 7G/6Gv2 Steelseries BAE's top stem guides?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Morbii on Fri, 02 September 2022, 17:06:13
    I’m new to the hobby and was wondering if there’s a place to find out what is and isn’t safe to stick in a keyboard?

    I’ve seen videos with masking tape on the literal PCB / on chips, cotton balls, foams, etc.  Is plastic safe (like bubble wrap)?  Are there any unsafe items that might seem like a good idea, etc.

    More importantly physical safety and fire safety, but electronics safety too.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sat, 03 September 2022, 17:45:48
    Quote from: Morbii on Fri, 02 September 2022, 17:06:13
    I’m new to the hobby and was wondering if there’s a place to find out what is and isn’t safe to stick in a keyboard?

    I’ve seen videos with masking tape on the literal PCB / on chips, cotton balls, foams, etc.  Is plastic safe (like bubble wrap)?  Are there any unsafe items that might seem like a good idea, etc.

    More importantly physical safety and fire safety, but electronics safety too.

    The biggest electronics/fire safety risk would be introducing a conductive material that causes a short circuit. Most of these tapes, foams, plastics, etc. that you see used for sound/vibration damping are non-conductive materials.

    Usually the electronic components of a keyboard don't generate a ton of heat when operating normally, but it might in principle be possible to generate enough heat with a well-insulated controller or powerful LED to cause some trouble as well. Any component that consumes power (essentially any chip or discrete circuit element such as a diode/LED or resistor) should have some allowance made for cooling, although this could be as little as putting it in thermal contact with the PCB, and assuming heat will transfer into the copper ground plane.

    In terms of physical safety, all the normal standards would apply, I guess. Don't ingest lube, try not to inhale flux vapour, don't hold the soldering iron too close to the tip, watch out for sharp edges on machined parts.

    If you can post a bit more about what you're trying to accomplish, someone might be able to offer more specific advice.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Morbii on Sat, 03 September 2022, 22:49:40
    Thank you!  I think that's a good head start for me just in terms of some basics. 

    The thing that triggered this question is that I'm going to start trying to modify a high profile Drop CTRL to see what I can do with it.  I realize that there probably won't be too much I can do with it due to its limitations (plate mount stabs, integrated plate, no daughterboard or gaskets, no foam, wild pinging sounds, not a lot of room to maneuver in the case, etc), but I think it will be a good start just to play around.    I've already replaced the stabs with everglides, lubed them with 205g0 and the wire with grease, and used the Holee mod (no clips to snip).  Sounds better than it did, but I want to try to fiddle around a bit inside the case too.

    I'm a fast learner, so beyond that I'm just trying to throw myself into the hobby in whichever ways I can.  I recently picked up my first soldering iron and some DIY kits, but I want to focus on a few more basics before I dive fully in, and probably want to either take a soldering class or find a good tutorial (I ordered a Hakko FX888 station).  I also have several boards to play with, from GMMK Pros, to Keychrons, some much more mainstream boards, and a Bubble 75 (with two PCBs, one solderable and one not - an end goal will be soldering the Bubble75 PCB when I am at least a little skilled at it).

    My biggest issue was wondering about conductivity and which materials were/weren't safe.  I never would have thought of taping up a whole side of a PCB with masking tape, but I saw it in a video from someone that appeared very knowledgeable, so it invited questions.





    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Sun, 04 September 2022, 10:25:12
    Sounds awesome! Fortunately, keyswitches are just about the easiest thing in the world to solder -- large through-hole components that tend to stay in place even before soldering (either with PCB-mount legs, or from being held by a plate).

    If you're looking at tape, keep in mind that most tapes will leave residue if used over long periods of time. You could also take a look around at what types of foam various other keyboards or kits have used, to get an idea for what's popular.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Fri, 07 October 2022, 10:53:48
    Is anyone familiar with QMK firmware configs that could let me know whether there's a modifier key that can be mapped like the 'Pn' key on the Poker, where only the keys pressed while that modifier is held down activate their secondary layer function (instead of toggling a secondary layer across the entire board)?

    On the Poker this allows for those Pn-held keys to be simultaneously used along with the default layer's keys.

    I'd assume this is totally possible but just wanted some confirmation.

    Looking at config.qmk.fm (https://config.qmk.fm) is either 'MO' or 'OSL' the correct modifier I'd be looking for?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Morbii on Fri, 07 October 2022, 10:56:50
    Quote from: Coreda on Fri, 07 October 2022, 10:53:48
    Is anyone familiar with QMK firmware configs that could let me know whether there's a modifier key that can be mapped like the 'Pn' key on the Poker, where only the keys pressed while that modifier is held down activate their secondary layer function (instead of toggling a secondary layer across the entire board)?

    On the Poker this allows for those Pn-held keys to be simultaneously used along with the default layer's keys.

    I'd assume this is totally possible but just wanted some confirmation.

    Looking at config.qmk.fm (https://config.qmk.fm) is either 'MO' or 'OSL' the correct modifier I'd be looking for?

    MO is what you’re looking for.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Fri, 07 October 2022, 10:59:26
    Quote from: Morbii on Fri, 07 October 2022, 10:56:50
    MO is what you’re looking for.

    Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Sat, 08 October 2022, 01:05:56
    Just another thing: is there any technical reason why the DZ60 RGB-ANSI (hotswap) PCB has north-facing switches for apparently only the Esc and 1 keys (around the USB port area) while being south-facing everywhere else?

    From what I've read north-facing is only a relevant physical issue on the home row if using thicker keycaps? Not too worried about the LED position inconsistency with the layout.

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Morbii on Sat, 08 October 2022, 04:54:16
    Quote from: Coreda on Sat, 08 October 2022, 01:05:56
    Just another thing: is there any technical reason why the DZ60 RGB-ANSI (hotswap) PCB has north-facing switches for apparently only the Esc and 1 keys (around the USB port area) while being south-facing everywhere else?

    From what I've read north-facing is only a relevant physical issue on the home row if using thicker keycaps? Not too worried about the LED position inconsistency with the layout.

    (Attachment Link)

    Yeah!  They do this so they have room on the PCB for the USB port.  So, you did basically guess the reason! :)

    If you get one that utilizes a daughter board (or “better” port placement), you’ll notice you won’t see this.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Coreda on Sat, 08 October 2022, 06:19:11
    Ah, thanks again. If I decide to go with it hopefully it won't be a problem with any keycaps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Morbii on Sat, 08 October 2022, 06:49:19
    Quote from: Coreda on Sat, 08 October 2022, 06:19:11
    Ah, thanks again. If I decide to go with it hopefully it won't be a problem with any keycaps.

    Yeah, sorry I kinda ignored the second part.  You shouldn’t have any Keycap issues unless you’re using cherry row 3 up there for some reason, but even if so the LED interference issue is more of an anal “perfection” issue as most people probably wouldn’t really notice unless they’d been told it was happening.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: oledome on Thu, 27 October 2022, 08:26:22
    What are the off-shelf options for 1800 layout + low profile cherry / gateron switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: spilt_yogurt on Mon, 31 October 2022, 04:27:39
    What's the general concensus on mechanical gaming keyboards? What's the preferred form factor / size?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: CptMorris on Fri, 18 November 2022, 22:15:02
    There is a 65g version of the Boba U4T being sold on Aliexpress. Is this one legit? I only remember there being 62g and 68g versions of the Boba U4T.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Morbii on Sat, 19 November 2022, 02:25:41
    Quote from: CptMorris on Fri, 18 November 2022, 22:15:02
    There is a 65g version of the Boba U4T being sold on Aliexpress. Is this one legit? I only remember there being 62g and 68g versions of the Boba U4T.

    If it's the U4Tx, it's legit (these come in 55 and 65). It's a different switch though, and people seem to like it.  I have some, but haven't mounted any yet.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AspiringMechKeebFan on Fri, 25 November 2022, 12:02:10
    What alice/arisu-layout keyboards are there that feature columns on the both sides? Sorta like Malicious (https://cannonkeys.com/products/malicious-ergo) from CannonKeys.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: kldscpe on Sat, 26 November 2022, 21:26:29
    Is there a list of wireless keyboards somewhere? The ones I know of are the Keychron,RK, Epomaker, Monokei and Meletrix.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Shaggy on Tue, 13 December 2022, 10:37:35
    Quote from: catawalks on Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:44:14
    Does anyone know the name of this switch type or who makes it? Seems to be a triangular metal dome plate that collapses under the pressure of the spring (which has foam in the middle of it) as it is pressed down. The keyboard is branded by Mohawk Data Sciences and most of the ICs are dated 1982/83.

    Show Image
    (http://i.imgur.com/oYaAYtu.jpg)


    I've been researching and documenting this company lately, just stumbled onto this thread. here is a cross section of the switch.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Fri, 30 December 2022, 17:18:31
    I'm trying to band-aid mod/lubricate my cherry stabilizers on the HyperX Alloy Origins without desoldering. I'm not sure if the stabilizers are plate mounted, but upon attempting to push on the plastic clips and pushing the stabilizers up, I can't push it up enough to easily slide in the band aid from the underside.

    The stabilizers seem pretty snug even when lifted up, and doesn't look like they can wiggle out of the socket freely.

    I'm wondering if anyone has been been able to band-aid mod this keyboard and if they did, will it require desoldering the switches to be able to lift the stabilizers high enough, or do I just need to keep pushing up on the stabilizers? Are they plate mounted?

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 19 January 2023, 12:20:34
    Anyone know if Cherry profile caps will fit the Corsair K100 with the OPX switches?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Morbii on Thu, 19 January 2023, 12:25:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 19 January 2023, 12:20:34
    Anyone know if Cherry profile caps will fit the Corsair K100 with the OPX switches?

    They should since they appear to be MX-style switches.  However, note that Corsair uses a non-standard 6.5U spacebar, and that will be much harder to find (i.e. you won't find it with GMK, SP, etc).
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 19 January 2023, 12:27:34
    This board did go to a standard 6.25 unit space bar with 1.25 mods. My question is re regarding the RGB being on the top of the switch, not the bottom.

    Quote from: Morbii on Thu, 19 January 2023, 12:25:47
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 19 January 2023, 12:20:34
    Anyone know if Cherry profile caps will fit the Corsair K100 with the OPX switches?

    They should since they appear to be MX-style switches.  However, note that Corsair uses a non-standard 6.5U spacebar, and that will be much harder to find (i.e. you won't find it with GMK, SP, etc).

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Tue, 07 February 2023, 11:32:00
    Quote from: grymsfing on Tue, 07 February 2023, 10:27:43
    Quote from: user 18 on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:14:53
    Quote from: ShangWang on Tue, 09 November 2021, 10:24:18
    Is it bad to have dielectric grease on the bottom of your costar stabilizers? Will it do nothing or does it affect the sound if a thin layer is there?

    If any dielectric grease seeped under to the PCB, would that cause any damage? If I used a paper towel to wipe off the dielectric grease and it scratched the surface, would that also be an issue or is it all cosmetic? When and where would scratches on a PCB be an issue?

    PCB: https://imgur.com/a/zmuq77u
    Stabilizer: https://imgur.com/fwnrcBV
    Thanks a lot for help!
    I can't speak from experience to how it would affect the sound. I wouldn't expect there to be a major difference if it's really just a thin layer -- I don't believe the stabilizer inserts bottom out during normal use.

    Dielectric grease is nonconductive, so it shouldn't lead to any shorting or undesirable behaviour if it's in contact with the PCB. I believe it's also used to protect electrical contacts against corrosion, so it shouldn't cause any long-term issues if it's touching PCB traces or contacts.

    Scratches to a PCB can cause issues when they sever an electrical connection, or significantly reduce its cross-sectional area (i.e. cut almost all the way through), particularly for a trace that carries a reasonable amount of power -- which you usually won't find in a keyboard. Your photo is a bit blurry, but I don't see any obvious signs of damage there. I wouldn't expect the mild abrasive of a paper towel to cause significant damage anyway, unless you applied a lot of pressure when wiping up the grease, or have a particularly fragile PCB.
    Thank you for the reply!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: AlexShepel on Sun, 26 February 2023, 01:41:40
    plz help
    Somebody knows what’s keyboard on this photo?

    (https://preview.redd.it/7ipr8mcpkeka1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=046e6b7c415e81832e75ae02325b85d155428722)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: OrcswithForks on Wed, 15 March 2023, 14:29:33
    I'd like to buy a modern full-size Focus-layout keyboard if one exists.  Specifically, I would like to have the backslash/pipe key to the right of a smaller right shift key.  I can't seem to find this layout for sale anywhere except for old PS/2 keyboards.  I bought an old FK-6200, which has the layout, but I'm not a huge fan of the rubber-dome switches.  I'd like something more tactile/clicky.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Maledicted on Wed, 15 March 2023, 15:36:11
    Quote from: OrcswithForks on Wed, 15 March 2023, 14:29:33
    I'd like to buy a modern full-size Focus-layout keyboard if one exists.  Specifically, I would like to have the backslash/pipe key to the right of a smaller right shift key.  I can't seem to find this layout for sale anywhere except for old PS/2 keyboards.  I bought an old FK-6200, which has the layout, but I'm not a huge fan of the rubber-dome switches.  I'd like something more tactile/clicky.

    Hi OrcswithForks. Welcome to Geekhack.

    Those boards are clicky, since they have Focus DWS switches. They're actually highly regarded with many people that like vintage clicky switches, including myself. If you want boards with Alps switches (or clones), the Focus FK-2001 can have this layout (They're later and might all have Alps clones). The FK-555 has it but with a different mapping (which you could change). A lot of Northgate Omnikeys (besides 101) also have it.

    Take a look at the Deskthority wiki (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Physical_keyboard_layout#Focus) in regard to this. People on the Deskthority Discord (https://discord.gg/MuAtWeBG) may know more than I do just off the top of my head.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DashanYYY on Thu, 16 March 2023, 12:42:41
    Hi everyone, I know this may sound dump. How can I insert a picture into a thread that I post? Does Imgur link still work on Geekhack?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 17 March 2023, 08:12:11
    Below the message box is "Attachments and other options"

    You can attach a picture file there.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: DashanYYY on Fri, 17 March 2023, 11:28:48
    Thank you very much
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Morbii on Sat, 18 March 2023, 05:18:06
    How does Domikey compare with Maxkey and SP?  I absolutely love SP, but not a huge fan of Maxkey.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Awoke on Mon, 24 April 2023, 21:07:26
    I'm looking for a full size keyboard, with aluminium or zinc (metal) frame, and Cherry MX Clear switches.

    Any idea of one or where I could search for one?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Miscfu on Mon, 01 May 2023, 11:41:25
    Hello! Doing my first keyboard build, was just wondering if there were any potential compatibility issues I may have overlooked.
    I've ordered:

    Thank you!  ^-^
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: user 18 on Tue, 02 May 2023, 09:05:08
    Quote from: Miscfu on Mon, 01 May 2023, 11:41:25
    Hello! Doing my first keyboard build, was just wondering if there were any potential compatibility issues I may have overlooked.
    I've ordered:
    • Portico68 Obsidian build kit from KeyCompany
    • Tangerine Light switches / stabs
    • SLK Dessau Dark Base Kit

    Thank you!  ^-^

    I am not familiar with this board or keyset, but have looked it up. As far as I can tell, everything looks compatible. The only odd keycaps you will need for this layout are a 1.75u right shift, and different-row home/end/pgup/pgdn. The keyset you mention includes the 1.75u shift, and because it doesn't seem to have different profiles per row, you don't run into any concerns with the home/end/pgup/pgdn like you would with, for example, Cherry profile caps.

    The switches are PCB mount, and your PCB looks to have the additional holes drilled to be compatible with these. In the event that you get a PCB without these holes, or there is a size mismatch, you can turn PCB mount switches into plate mount switches by cutting off the plastic legs on the side, but it doesn't appear like that will be necessary in your case.

    The stabilizers are also PCB mount, and includes the correct number and size of wires. You will need the shorter of the two spacebar stabilizer wires.

    Good luck with your first build :)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Prince Valiant on Mon, 08 May 2023, 10:42:41
    Are there any clicky hall effect or optical switches which are MX compatible (mount and stem)?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Simon11777 on Mon, 08 May 2023, 20:17:54
    Hello, I need help finding a mechanical keyboard pad on AliExpress Keyboard 60% in iso
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Awoke on Tue, 09 May 2023, 12:26:24
    I got my first MK. It's a lot more impressive than I was expecting. Now, I want to make it as quiet as possible. Any help of suggestions on where to start or the appropriate place to find information will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ander on Tue, 16 May 2023, 01:25:03
    Should you wear brown shoes with a blue suit?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Wed, 24 May 2023, 12:07:58
    I found this 4mm thick foam in my room that I could potentially use for dampening my HyperX Alloy Origins but I'm not sure what kind of material it is or if it's appropriate for the task. I just know that if the foam is not electrically conductive, it would work.
    [attach=1]
    [attach=2]
    [attach=3]


    https://imgur.com/a/YjFSftK

    The foam is a bit hard, with some rigidity and has a somewhat smooth texture with little pores. Does anyone know what material this is? Would it be good for keyboard dampening?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Fri, 09 June 2023, 09:55:28
    I plan on purchasing a soldering matt for resoldering a HyperX Alloy Origins which presumably has an aluminum plate on the exterior and the switches are plate mounted.

    The silicone matt has these magnetic areas for placing your screws, but my keyboard is just big enough that it takes up the whole matt space and overlaps these magnetic areas.

    If my PCB or any part of the keyboard touches these magnetic parts while soldering, can it cause any damage whatsoever, or is it completely safe?

    If there was any damage, would the magnets have to be extremely strong for it to do anything?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: invariance on Thu, 29 June 2023, 08:43:28
    Quote from: ShangWang on Fri, 09 June 2023, 09:55:28
    I plan on purchasing a soldering matt for resoldering a HyperX Alloy Origins which presumably has an aluminum plate on the exterior and the switches are plate mounted.

    The silicone matt has these magnetic areas for placing your screws, but my keyboard is just big enough that it takes up the whole matt space and overlaps these magnetic areas.

    If my PCB or any part of the keyboard touches these magnetic parts while soldering, can it cause any damage whatsoever, or is it completely safe?

    If there was any damage, would the magnets have to be extremely strong for it to do anything?
    Nothing to worry about. Think of a generator where the fast motion of many wires in a loop through a magnetic field creates a voltage. Moving a circuit board over a magnet will not do anything.
    If you drag your feet over polyester carpet and then touch the circuit board, that might be a different story  :))
    Discharge yourself by touching someone‘a earlobe first.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 29 June 2023, 10:49:39
    Quote from: invariance on Thu, 29 June 2023, 08:43:28
    Quote from: ShangWang on Fri, 09 June 2023, 09:55:28
    I plan on purchasing a soldering matt for resoldering a HyperX Alloy Origins which presumably has an aluminum plate on the exterior and the switches are plate mounted.

    The silicone matt has these magnetic areas for placing your screws, but my keyboard is just big enough that it takes up the whole matt space and overlaps these magnetic areas.

    If my PCB or any part of the keyboard touches these magnetic parts while soldering, can it cause any damage whatsoever, or is it completely safe?

    If there was any damage, would the magnets have to be extremely strong for it to do anything?
    Nothing to worry about. Think of a generator where the fast motion of many wires in a loop through a magnetic field creates a voltage. Moving a circuit board over a magnet will not do anything.
    If you drag your feet over polyester carpet and then touch the circuit board, that might be a different story  :))
    Discharge yourself by touching someone‘a earlobe first.

    Thanks! I don't think I'll always have a person to discharge myself, but I do have a metal ruler that is sitting on my wooden table. Hopefully that does a decent enough job!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Mon, 03 July 2023, 06:09:47
    When soldering do I need to add more solder to my iron if I applied a can of tip tinner, or does that not help? Will it make the iron worse?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 03 July 2023, 10:58:13
    Quote from: ShangWang on Mon, 03 July 2023, 06:09:47
    When soldering do I need to add more solder to my iron if I applied a can of tip tinner, or does that not help? Will it make the iron worse?

    Tip tinner is mostly for cleaning and protecting the iron, for a keyboard you can probably just get straight to soldering without adding more to the tip itself, just start feeding to the joint after heating it up a bit.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Mon, 03 July 2023, 14:05:09
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 03 July 2023, 10:58:13
    Quote from: ShangWang on Mon, 03 July 2023, 06:09:47
    When soldering do I need to add more solder to my iron if I applied a can of tip tinner, or does that not help? Will it make the iron worse?

    Tip tinner is mostly for cleaning and protecting the iron, for a keyboard you can probably just get straight to soldering without adding more to the tip itself, just start feeding to the joint after heating it up a bit.

    Thanks! I was thinking tip-tinner is just an easier alternative to adding solder to your iron yourself. I was thinking I would have to re-tin every time I clean the iron with a brass sponge, but I guess it's not necessary if the tip looks unoxidized and shiny, but it wouldn't hurt to re-tin it again even if it's already shiny?

    I'm thinking you could re-tin after cleaning the iron twice from oxidation.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Sifo on Mon, 03 July 2023, 15:30:46
    Quote from: ShangWang on Mon, 03 July 2023, 14:05:09
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 03 July 2023, 10:58:13
    Quote from: ShangWang on Mon, 03 July 2023, 06:09:47
    When soldering do I need to add more solder to my iron if I applied a can of tip tinner, or does that not help? Will it make the iron worse?

    Tip tinner is mostly for cleaning and protecting the iron, for a keyboard you can probably just get straight to soldering without adding more to the tip itself, just start feeding to the joint after heating it up a bit.

    Thanks! I was thinking tip-tinner is just an easier alternative to adding solder to your iron yourself. I was thinking I would have to re-tin every time I clean the iron with a brass sponge, but I guess it's not necessary if the tip looks unoxidized and shiny, but it wouldn't hurt to re-tin it again even if it's already shiny?

    I'm thinking you could re-tin after cleaning the iron twice from oxidation.

    You can do it before and after the soldering session as well as periodically in between during soldering after cleaning.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Mon, 03 July 2023, 16:11:31
    Quote from: Sifo on Mon, 03 July 2023, 15:30:46
    You can do it before and after the soldering session as well as periodically in between during soldering after cleaning.
    Sorry, to clarify I haven't used the solder iron yet. I re-read on tip tinner and it appears to be only used when absolutely needed. I think on a new iron I should just apply solder to tin it normally.

    I think the procedure is to clean the tip, apply the tinner, and then clean the tip again to get rid of the residue. In most cases the tip should be shiny at that point even after cleaning, but I wanted to know if I'm not 100% sure is it ok to add more solder on the tip even after tinning if it doesn't appear shiny enough? What if it's already shiny and you apply more?

    If it's possible to add too much solder on your tip, how do you remove the excess? Do you just use the brass sponge again, and if you do would you have to re-tin it again with solder?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: zot3 on Tue, 24 October 2023, 17:15:43
    Hello,

    Is it possible to make a macropad (like the DOIO ones) to output MIDI instead?

    Thanks
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Mr. Perfect on Fri, 27 October 2023, 16:19:13
    Hey all,

    What's the favorite active PS/2 to USB converter these days? All the ones I'm familiar with seem to be out of production. Thanks!
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ClaireAbitbol on Sat, 11 November 2023, 05:21:57
    Why do people just leave their coiled cable retracted on their desk and have a long normal cable connecting to the PC, to me the point of a coiled cable was that you're able to extend it so why just leave it sitting there like a less space efficient regular cable? I'm assuming a big part of it is just aesthetics.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 11 November 2023, 07:41:48
    Quote from: ClaireAbitbol on Sat, 11 November 2023, 05:21:57

    just aesthetics.


    I despise coiled cables and think that they are clumsy and ugly.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Exquite on Wed, 15 November 2023, 20:35:05
    How can I upload my pictures to the profile pictures section? I have tried uploading jpeg, png, and heic.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Buckling_Summer on Tue, 21 November 2023, 05:23:45
    Quote from: Mr. Perfect on Fri, 27 October 2023, 16:19:13
    Hey all,

    What's the favorite active PS/2 to USB converter these days? All the ones I'm familiar with seem to be out of production. Thanks!

    I have been using this:
    ps/2 to USB adapter converter for keyboards + short USB cable
     (https://www.clickykeyboards.com/product/ps2-to-usb-adapter-converter-for-keyboards-short-usb-cable/)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mohawk1367 on Mon, 27 November 2023, 07:23:37
    Quote from: ClaireAbitbol on Sat, 11 November 2023, 05:21:57
    Why do people just leave their coiled cable retracted on their desk and have a long normal cable connecting to the PC, to me the point of a coiled cable was that you're able to extend it so why just leave it sitting there like a less space efficient regular cable? I'm assuming a big part of it is just aesthetics.

    the coiled cables people use these days arent meant to be extended they are just coiled for aesthetics

    its weird
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Wed, 29 November 2023, 05:35:18
    Aside from mechanical keyboards .com (out stock for a while now), any suggestions where I can find some Cherry PCB mount NOT screw in (Ergo Dox doesn't support screw in to my knowledge unless I am mistaken) stabilizers?  I only need 4 2U stabs.

    Also, any suggestions for a single sides keypad for gaming aside from custom built Ergo Dox.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 30 November 2023, 07:55:22
    Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 29 November 2023, 05:35:18
    Aside from mechanical keyboards .com (out stock for a while now), any suggestions where I can find some Cherry PCB mount NOT screw in (Ergo Dox doesn't support screw in to my knowledge unless I am mistaken) stabilizers?  I only need 4 2U stabs.

    Also, any suggestions for a single sides keypad for gaming aside from custom built Ergo Dox.

    If you are talking about clip ins, than cannonkeys sells them.

    https://cannonkeys.com/products/cherry-stabilizers?variant=32257338998895

    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Sat, 02 December 2023, 15:23:44
    I have this RK ROYAL KLUDGE RK84 keyboard where I lubed the stabilizer wires with dielectric grease and the housing with G-lube. I made sure to put a thin layer for the housing a relatively thick coating on the wires. I also put a band-aid under the stabilizers and applied a bit of dielectric grease on them.

    The keyboard comes with EVA foam already but I put one layer of painters tape on the PCB for more sound dampening.

    It seemed like a tight fit when screwing the PCB back on the plate, but there were no issues with the stabilizers until I repeatedly pressed down on my spacebar and eventually it started rattling. It's more of a wriggle sensation/sound when pressing down on the keys, but it seems like it's permanently like this despite

    Is this normal for these stabilizers, or is it because of the tape mod somehow?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Melvang on Thu, 21 December 2023, 06:46:43
    Would anyone have or know where I could get CAD files for Ergo Dox PCBs so I can start designing a case for my kiddo?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 21 December 2023, 07:05:52
    Quote from: Melvang on Thu, 21 December 2023, 06:46:43
    Would anyone have or know where I could get CAD files for Ergo Dox PCBs so I can start designing a case for my kiddo?

    This should have the files for the ergodox pcb

    https://github.com/Ergodox-io/ErgoDox

    the ergodox website should also have it (or at least a way to find it) just in case the github doesn't - https://www.ergodox.io/

    Hope this helps and the project turns out well, always love seeing stuff like this.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 21 December 2023, 07:18:43
    Quote from: ShangWang on Sat, 02 December 2023, 15:23:44
    I have this RK ROYAL KLUDGE RK84 keyboard where I lubed the stabilizer wires with dielectric grease and the housing with G-lube. I made sure to put a thin layer for the housing a relatively thick coating on the wires. I also put a band-aid under the stabilizers and applied a bit of dielectric grease on them.

    The keyboard comes with EVA foam already but I put one layer of painters tape on the PCB for more sound dampening.

    It seemed like a tight fit when screwing the PCB back on the plate, but there were no issues with the stabilizers until I repeatedly pressed down on my spacebar and eventually it started rattling. It's more of a wriggle sensation/sound when pressing down on the keys, but it seems like it's permanently like this despite

    Is this normal for these stabilizers, or is it because of the tape mod somehow?

    If lube isn't the issue than maybe the wires are unbalanced. This seems helpful with fixing that - https://www.keebtalk.com/t/how-do-you-straighten-your-stabilizer-wires/13012

    If there is still persistent rattle another thing that I have seen is that it is a spacebar issue and you need to put a little bit of thin cling wrap loosely where the ticking is happening (this is if you are talking about a ticking noise that occurs instead of rattle, only do this if you have tried everything and there is still ticking, and don't cram it in there as there is a risk that the spacebar stem may crack)

    If literally nothing works than replacing the stabilizer would be an option, and also isn't too expensive.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: ShangWang on Thu, 21 December 2023, 07:54:42
    Quote from: Rhienfo on Thu, 21 December 2023, 07:18:43
    Quote from: ShangWang on Sat, 02 December 2023, 15:23:44
    I have this RK ROYAL KLUDGE RK84 keyboard where I lubed the stabilizer wires with dielectric grease and the housing with G-lube. I made sure to put a thin layer for the housing a relatively thick coating on the wires. I also put a band-aid under the stabilizers and applied a bit of dielectric grease on them.

    The keyboard comes with EVA foam already but I put one layer of painters tape on the PCB for more sound dampening.

    It seemed like a tight fit when screwing the PCB back on the plate, but there were no issues with the stabilizers until I repeatedly pressed down on my spacebar and eventually it started rattling. It's more of a wriggle sensation/sound when pressing down on the keys, but it seems like it's permanently like this despite

    Is this normal for these stabilizers, or is it because of the tape mod somehow?

    If lube isn't the issue than maybe the wires are unbalanced. This seems helpful with fixing that - https://www.keebtalk.com/t/how-do-you-straighten-your-stabilizer-wires/13012

    If there is still persistent rattle another thing that I have seen is that it is a spacebar issue and you need to put a little bit of thin cling wrap loosely where the ticking is happening (this is if you are talking about a ticking noise that occurs instead of rattle, only do this if you have tried everything and there is still ticking, and don't cram it in there as there is a risk that the spacebar stem may crack)

    If literally nothing works than replacing the stabilizer would be an option, and also isn't too expensive.

    Thanks! I got the same set of stabilizers and it seemed to still persist, I think it's just how the stabilizers are so I'll just replace it with a different kind in the future.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: transeurasian on Sat, 23 December 2023, 04:33:07
    Is there a wiki or list somewhere of new & notable keyboard releases?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 23 December 2023, 05:30:32
    Quote from: transeurasian on Sat, 23 December 2023, 04:33:07
    Is there a wiki or list somewhere of new & notable keyboard releases?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/185irtVlavKB7a21TwWsaU6iZVvfeVqY3XrIn87obPpQ/edit

    I mainly look at this spreadsheet when it comes to anything notable. It also has a review of every product by a big community member that you can look at, but even if you don't care about that/agree with him, it's still useful with seeing everything.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: killazys on Fri, 19 January 2024, 09:18:01
    Looking to replace my dying Archiss MX Brown keyboard for my desktop. I tried the REALFORCE R2 silent 45g switches and they were way too stiff/actuation bump felt really fatiguing, even though technically they are less weight than the browns. I have the Ducky One SF with Kailh Box Browns for travelling which I like, maybe if they were just a big lighter and lubed.

    I tried the Niz 35g switches at the store and I found them to be too close to a linear switch for me, also the key travel distance felt a bit short.

    So I'm looking for something in between the Kailh Box Browns and Niz 35g, preferably silent and smooth/pre-lubed but not sure what... maybe Niz 45g like this one? Thanks for any tips.

    I live in Japan btw so something I can easily buy here would be preferred.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rhienfo on Fri, 19 January 2024, 16:09:46
    Quote from: killazys on Fri, 19 January 2024, 09:18:01
    Looking to replace my dying Archiss MX Brown keyboard for my desktop. I tried the REALFORCE R2 silent 45g switches and they were way too stiff/actuation bump felt really fatiguing, even though technically they are less weight than the browns. I have the Ducky One SF with Kailh Box Browns for travelling which I like, maybe if they were just a big lighter and lubed.

    I tried the Niz 35g switches at the store and I found them to be too close to a linear switch for me, also the key travel distance felt a bit short.

    So I'm looking for something in between the Kailh Box Browns and Niz 35g, preferably silent and smooth/pre-lubed but not sure what... maybe Niz 45g like this one? Thanks for any tips.

    I live in Japan btw so something I can easily buy here would be preferred.

    Any of the haimu silent tactiles are a reccomendation for me in terms of mx silents, however the spring weighting may not be right for you, so I would reccomend spring swapping with aftermarket springs like tx springs, I think 55-57g medium springs would be right for you. You would just need a switch opener since they are factory lubed.

    I did see 40g kalih box springs out there, which are slightly lighter than the box browns from what I'm aware, but no one is selling them so I think they stopped production, but if you ever find them you can replace them with the box browns stock springs.

    Also weighting in topre is different to mx since it's not the spring that causes the resistance, the tactile domes are the things that cause resistance, if you want to go the topre route then you would have to find aftermarket domes that are lighter than 45g but heavier than 35g, I'm not a topre person so I can't really help you out there. But hope the other info helps you.


    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mohawk1367 on Fri, 26 January 2024, 10:03:51
    Quote from: Rhienfo on Fri, 19 January 2024, 16:09:46
    Quote from: killazys on Fri, 19 January 2024, 09:18:01
    Looking to replace my dying Archiss MX Brown keyboard for my desktop. I tried the REALFORCE R2 silent 45g switches and they were way too stiff/actuation bump felt really fatiguing, even though technically they are less weight than the browns. I have the Ducky One SF with Kailh Box Browns for travelling which I like, maybe if they were just a big lighter and lubed.

    I tried the Niz 35g switches at the store and I found them to be too close to a linear switch for me, also the key travel distance felt a bit short.

    So I'm looking for something in between the Kailh Box Browns and Niz 35g, preferably silent and smooth/pre-lubed but not sure what... maybe Niz 45g like this one? Thanks for any tips.

    I live in Japan btw so something I can easily buy here would be preferred.

    Any of the haimu silent tactiles are a reccomendation for me in terms of mx silents, however the spring weighting may not be right for you, so I would reccomend spring swapping with aftermarket springs like tx springs, I think 55-57g medium springs would be right for you. You would just need a switch opener since they are factory lubed.

    I did see 40g kalih box springs out there, which are slightly lighter than the box browns from what I'm aware, but no one is selling them so I think they stopped production, but if you ever find them you can replace them with the box browns stock springs.

    Also weighting in topre is different to mx since it's not the spring that causes the resistance, the tactile domes are the things that cause resistance, if you want to go the topre route then you would have to find aftermarket domes that are lighter than 45g but heavier than 35g, I'm not a topre person so I can't really help you out there. But hope the other info helps you.

    ngl when i tried 45g topre for the first time it still felt unspeakably light compared to 45g mx style linears
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Nerif on Sat, 03 February 2024, 13:55:54
    Can someone explain to me why Clickjacket-based switches lose their click after years of usage?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 03 February 2024, 17:34:30
    Quote from: Nerif on Sat, 03 February 2024, 13:55:54
    Can someone explain to me why Clickjacket-based switches lose their click after years of usage?

    There might be a few reasons

    1. The switches are really dirty, which would block the click mechanism and the switches need to be cleaned.

    2. If the switches have been lubed, any of it near the click jacket will remove the click as well, this can happen even if you didn't lube near it initially because the lube with spread around in the switch. You can clean it but it requires a ultrasound cleaner.

    3. The switch has wear and tear from years of usage and either the jacket part of the leaf has been damaged (probably not the reason)

    Hope this helps.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: fuzzybyte on Sat, 24 February 2024, 01:10:24
    Where could I buy a single-piece keyboard with a layout like this?

    [attachimg=1]
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rhienfo on Sun, 25 February 2024, 23:29:27
    Quote from: fuzzybyte on Sat, 24 February 2024, 01:10:24
    Where could I buy a single-piece keyboard with a layout like this?

    (Attachment Link)

    I don't think there is a keyboard with this layout, I think your best bet would be to handwire the board in that layout, and use acryllic stacks for the case for example.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Tue, 12 March 2024, 16:18:57
    Quote from: fuzzybyte on Sat, 24 February 2024, 01:10:24
    Where could I buy a single-piece keyboard with a layout like this?

    (Attachment Link)

    That's a very specific layout. You're going to have to either make it yourself, or buy a larger ortholinear board and retrofit your keymap. Maybe the XD75?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 13 March 2024, 12:52:42
    Quote from: fuzzybyte on Sat, 24 February 2024, 01:10:24
    Where could I buy a single-piece keyboard with a layout like this?

    (Attachment Link)

    As others have said, your best bet is going to be making it yourself. If you haven't explored the Making Stuff Together subforum and dug up this resource, I recommend it as a good way to achieve what you're after.

    swill's plate building tool (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0)
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gokufire on Wed, 27 March 2024, 14:44:20
    Anyone else here with hope to see a Halo96 V2 as soon as possible?

    Things that I'd like to see on it:
    1. VIA/QMK supported
    2. Barebones option
    3. Southpaw version? Not sure if would be nice with their cramped layout
    4. Priced under $160

    This would be the closest to find the keyboard that I'm waiting or I may go with a Keychron V5 Max barebones and accept the fact that there is no keyboard with the features that I want yet.

    Anyways, just checking if there is some hype for this one to happen.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Wed, 27 March 2024, 14:48:58
    Quote from: gokufire on Wed, 27 March 2024, 14:44:20
    Anyone else here with hope to see a Halo96 V2 as soon as possible?

    Anyways, just checking if there is some hype for this one to happen.

    What is it about the Halo96 that you can't find elsewhere? QMK is pretty easy to find these days. Southpaw isn't as common at that price point (that I know of). Pretty much every keyboard is barebones at one point or another :)

    That layout is unique-ish but not so unique that I haven't seen competitive options. Basically what I'm getting at is: there are always alternatives. What are your "must haves"?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: gokufire on Wed, 27 March 2024, 15:36:52
    I guess, those are the things that I'm looking:

    1. 100% or 90ish% layout
    2. Support of VIA/QMK
    3. Gasket Mounted
    4. Hotswap
    5. Wireless
    6. No low profile

    The ones that attended those criteria are:

    1. Zoom98
    2. Keychron V5/V6/Q5/Q6/Q12 (Max series)
    3. Wind X98 R2
    4. Odin R4

    I couldn't find more. Not sure if I'm looking it right.

    If NuPhy releases the Halo96 next version with VIA/QMK support then it would also be part of this list and if priced below the Keychron Q5 and Q6 for me it will be a winner.

    Do you know about some other options?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: pessi80 on Sat, 27 April 2024, 13:52:48
    My dads old membrane (not buckling spring) keyboard is actually bouncy and almost feels tactile :eek:
    Crazy right? I mean I could probably use it if the spacebar worked that's how good it was imagine a mac keyboard with holy pandas???
    What is this keyboard?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: mohawk1367 on Mon, 29 April 2024, 06:58:34
    Quote from: pessi80 on Sat, 27 April 2024, 13:52:48
    My dads old membrane (not buckling spring) keyboard is actually bouncy and almost feels tactile :eek:
    Crazy right? I mean I could probably use it if the spacebar worked that's how good it was imagine a mac keyboard with holy pandas???
    What is this keyboard?
    arent most membrane keyboards tactile tho? lol
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Mon, 29 April 2024, 17:52:56
    Quote from: pessi80 on Sat, 27 April 2024, 13:52:48
    My dads old membrane (not buckling spring) keyboard is actually bouncy and almost feels tactile :eek:
    Crazy right? I mean I could probably use it if the spacebar worked that's how good it was imagine a mac keyboard with holy pandas???
    What is this keyboard?

    That's pretty normal. Most feel pretty spongy and mushy though, especially after extended use. Topre keyboards are plenty tactile and they have similar electrocapacitive "switches". I remember Microsoft's Natural Elite feeling pretty good, for example.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: Rhienfo on Mon, 29 April 2024, 19:50:49
    Quote from: mohawk1367 on Mon, 29 April 2024, 06:58:34
    arent most membrane keyboards tactile tho? lol

    Yeah the mechanism of a collapsing dome creates the tactile feedback, I think you could make a linear rubber dome, but what's the point the point of rubber domes is that they are cheap.

    Might as well make a mechanical keyboard at this point.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: enchong on Tue, 30 April 2024, 11:35:23
    Planning to buy a rubber dome from deskeys for my HHKB. What would be the closest to the Realforce 55g? Should I get the 49g?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Tue, 30 April 2024, 15:16:40
    Quote from: enchong on Tue, 30 April 2024, 11:35:23
    Planning to buy a rubber dome from deskeys for my HHKB. What would be the closest to the Realforce 55g? Should I get the 49g?

    Which type dome are you getting? There are BKE redux, round, carrots etc etc
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: enchong on Tue, 30 April 2024, 16:04:20
    Not really sure tbh, probably the BKE tactile because I want it to be more tactile than the stock hhkb. I used to have a realforce ang I love how that feels. But I also like the hhkb layout.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Tue, 30 April 2024, 18:01:28
    Quote from: enchong on Tue, 30 April 2024, 16:04:20
    Not really sure tbh, probably the BKE tactile because I want it to be more tactile than the stock hhkb. I used to have a realforce ang I love how that feels. But I also like the hhkb layout.

    I personally put the 56g bke tactile domes on my 87u (iirc). They feel ever so slightly heavier than the original 55g domes mostly because of the increased tactility. If I had to do it over again, I would have gone to the next lowest weight -- somewhere in the mid to high 40gs. It's all subjective, but the added tactility adds just enough resistance to the top of the force curve to make my brain think I'm typing on a heavier switch. Hope that helps
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: erretter on Thu, 02 May 2024, 10:26:51
    I F'd up the top housing of a soldered in switch (complicated to explain; please just take that info, as it is). The switch is still functioning, but wonky.

    Q: Can I swap out the top housing of a switch from the top-side without desoldering it?
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Thu, 02 May 2024, 12:24:28
    Quote from: erretter on Thu, 02 May 2024, 10:26:51
    I F'd up the top housing of a soldered in switch (complicated to explain; please just take that info, as it is). The switch is still functioning, but wonky.

    Q: Can I swap out the top housing of a switch from the top-side without desoldering it?

    Some plates have notches cut out on either side of the switch to allow the top housing clips bend outward. I haven't seen those in quite a few years though. If the plate is contacting the switch on all four sides, you're going to have to desolder. That said, it's a pretty simple operation and a great excuse to learn to solder. You got this!  :thumb:
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: erretter on Thu, 02 May 2024, 17:05:09
    Quote from: _rubik on Thu, 02 May 2024, 12:24:28
    Quote from: erretter on Thu, 02 May 2024, 10:26:51
    I F'd up the top housing of a soldered in switch (complicated to explain; please just take that info, as it is). The switch is still functioning, but wonky.

    Q: Can I swap out the top housing of a switch from the top-side without desoldering it?

    Some plates have notches cut out on either side of the switch to allow the top housing clips bend outward. I haven't seen those in quite a few years though. If the plate is contacting the switch on all four sides, you're going to have to desolder. That said, it's a pretty simple operation and a great excuse to learn to solder. You got this!  :thumb:

    Thank you! Didn't know about the plate specifics. But I have to say, I soldered the switches in by myself, with led free solder and desoldering this is a 50/50 chance damaging the PCB because it's almost impossible to get all the solder out.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: _rubik on Mon, 06 May 2024, 12:39:38
    Quote from: erretter on Thu, 02 May 2024, 17:05:09
    Quote from: _rubik on Thu, 02 May 2024, 12:24:28
    Quote from: erretter on Thu, 02 May 2024, 10:26:51
    I F'd up the top housing of a soldered in switch (complicated to explain; please just take that info, as it is). The switch is still functioning, but wonky.

    Q: Can I swap out the top housing of a switch from the top-side without desoldering it?

    Some plates have notches cut out on either side of the switch to allow the top housing clips bend outward. I haven't seen those in quite a few years though. If the plate is contacting the switch on all four sides, you're going to have to desolder. That said, it's a pretty simple operation and a great excuse to learn to solder. You got this!  :thumb:

    Thank you! Didn't know about the plate specifics. But I have to say, I soldered the switches in by myself, with led free solder and desoldering this is a 50/50 chance damaging the PCB because it's almost impossible to get all the solder out.

    It's amazing how much of a difference quality solder makes. I usually go with a 63/37 flux core solder which has the advantage of being eutectic -- a single, lower melting point that avoid that "gooey, semi-fluid" solder state you find on some cheaper solders.

    For desoldering, I'd recommend getting a good solder pump with a soft tip (hard plastic tips on solder pumps never seal well around the component, IMO). I went through so many cheap suckers before finding the "Engineer Solder Sucker" on Amazon. I always add an extra dab of leaded solder before sucking just to make sure everything's good and melted. It's also more mass for the sucker to grab onto, in my experience.
    Title: Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
    Post by: erretter on Mon, 06 May 2024, 12:50:47
    Quote from: _rubik on Mon, 06 May 2024, 12:39:38
    Quote from: erretter on Thu, 02 May 2024, 17:05:09
    Quote from: _rubik on Thu, 02 May 2024, 12:24:28
    Quote from: erretter on Thu, 02 May 2024, 10:26:51
    I F'd up the top housing of a soldered in switch (complicated to explain; please just take that info, as it is). The switch is still functioning, but wonky.

    Q: Can I swap out the top housing of a switch from the top-side without desoldering it?

    Some plates have notches cut out on either side of the switch to allow the top housing clips bend outward. I haven't seen those in quite a few years though. If the plate is contacting the switch on all four sides, you're going to have to desolder. That said, it's a pretty simple operation and a great excuse to learn to solder. You got this!  :thumb:

    Thank you! Didn't know about the plate specifics. But I have to say, I soldered the switches in by myself, with led free solder and desoldering this is a 50/50 chance damaging the PCB because it's almost impossible to get all the solder out.

    It's amazing how much of a difference quality solder makes. I usually go with a 63/37 flux core solder which has the advantage of being eutectic -- a single, lower melting point that avoid that "gooey, semi-fluid" solder state you find on some cheaper solders.

    For desoldering, I'd recommend getting a good solder pump with a soft tip (hard plastic tips on solder pumps never seal well around the component, IMO). I went through so many cheap suckers before finding the "Engineer Solder Sucker" on Amazon. I always add an extra dab of leaded solder before sucking just to make sure everything's good and melted. It's also more mass for the sucker to grab onto, in my experience.

    TY! I found that pump. Might give it a try or.... I use this wobbly switch to build the next board :-X